In this episode I’m joined once again by the illustrious crypto savage and pro gigolo extraordinaire Vin Armani. In the year since our first conversation about hacking the sex industry as a sacred sex worker and initiated tantric shaman, I’ve devoted myself to studying his path (best outlined in his book Tao of the Gigolo) and tuning into his weekly live show.
For years I had been a fan of the crypto movement but wasn’t directly involved. The powerful insight and urgency that Vin provides motivated me to finally begin to participate, and for that I owe him my deepest gratitude. I’ve done my best to rapidly accelerate my crypto studies to prepare for this epic exploration with Vin into the cypherpunk and crypto anarchist roots of Bitcoin.
We go over both the Crypto Anarchist Manifesto and A Cypherpunk’s Manifesto to set the table for a discourse on psychedelics, techno-shamanism, sci-fi hero archetypes, bitcoin politics, and visionary futurism.
As a long-time hacker, computer programmer, and web developer, Vin has been perfectly positioned to disrupt not only legacy banking systems, but also the cryptocurrency industry itself with his radically elegant SMS based Bitcoin Cash solution CoinText.io As founder, CTO, and lead developer, Vin explains how he plans to launch and roll out this project world-wide.
We discuss the roles he intends to play by officially joining the Free State Project in New Hampshire in the coming weeks. In addition to his crypto leadership, he’ll be bringing years of experience in the Las Vegas escort industry and his notoriety from starring in the Showtime reality show Gigolos to the politics of sexual freedom in what we affectionately refer to as “Love Free Or Die” state.
We close with many hopeful and optimistic predictions for a successful return to ecological harmony on earth and for responsible galactic exploration as the human technological adventure continues to unfold in space-time.
Please visit Vin’s website at http://vinarmani.com/
And enjoy his mixes at: https://soundcloud.com/vinarmani
Vin Armani is a philosopher, serial tech entrepreneur, and CryptoSavage. He is the host of The Vin Armani Show on Activist Post. In addition to being an author and speaker, he has made his living as a television star, film producer, high-end male escort, software developer, art gallerist, pirate radio station operator, DJ, music producer, and motorcycle courier. He studied Philosophy at Howard University.
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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 141 I’m being joined Again by the illustrious Vin Armani who we spoke almost August about a year ago before talking about being a pro Gigolo and hacking the sex industry event has been a prominent figure in mainstream entertainment media is one of the stars of the Gigolos Showtime reality ducky drama series that was on for about six years and also the author of an amazing book called out of the gigolo which if you read LG kundo and your Bruce Lee fan or a fan of just the spiritual Arts the martial arts you really need to immerse yourself into this Treatise on the Living Arts which who better than from a man who is achieved so much success with an ethical and moral high standard of success what every boy and man dreams to achieve which is really truly not the conquest of women but the integration of the beauty of women deeper level and this is a man who truly loves women so men women parents please Avail yourself of that book. Of The Gigolo I eventually we’ll probably just have boxes of it in my trunk catches pass it out because this is something I wish I had read and that I had access to when I was just becoming a man and I will say that you know the best thing I could say as a word as words of praise for van is just that you bring it all together man you are seriously an authentic you were walking the path of a of a super heroic archetype and it Blends inflows and is resonant with all of your endeavors that I am you know that I’m aware of that I’m watching and it’s like it makes me think a lot about growing up in and having these amazing powers full sci-fi spiritual Warrior Heroes on the Silver Screen you know and they really built me all of those stories to Philip K dick the the William Gibson all of the mythologies were played out what he’s been missing characters but I didn’t feel like they ever really carry that through to the real life and they were representing those politics of Liberation in the real lives but you were someone who does that and it’s just a thrill so really anybody listening please we have a a a champion of some really amazing powerful and beautiful causes and you know us not to put you on a pedestal or make you seem to be perfect or without any flies but it is just an omage and so yeah with that said we kind of did yeah we kind of got your back on your personal history in the last episode so so we’re going to just jump right into the topic which is broadly we’re going to look into crypto Anarchist philosophy as I have got more into crypto thanks to you and Jack spearco first and foremost thank you so much for that and yeah just to give you it to balance it out to give you some space before we get into this these Seminole text of the crypto Anarchist Manifesto and the cypherpunk manifesto you wanted to check in with this tell us what’s up and how you doing and how you’re sure will first off I want to say thank you very much for that that intro of course you know my mind my own ego I’ve I’ve it’s really been a a journey for me to put aside my own ego over the past decade for sure but I have to tell you that those same influences that influence you were the ones that influenced me and it’s funny that the author is in the books that you that you listed off even there in the intro I was like yep yep yep of those are at those were all massive influences on me and I guess I just never thought that it could that I couldn’t use those as examples in that I am that I couldn’t live that sort of life and always I guess maybe I I’m pretty. I’m pretty tough on myself for better or worse but I always thought those were always the archetypes that I wanted to live up to an end truly embody and so I’m trying man I’m trying but I will tell you that every step that I have taken where I’ve done what was right as I posted according to those archetypes in according to those examples when I’ve done what was what was right even if it even if it was something that was outlandish and and that maybe people said was unrealistic every single time it is paid off for me so if I can just continue to you no share that message with people whenever someone approaches me or contact me from afar and says that something that I’ve done just by living by example has made a difference in their life that totally makes it worth it for me on on every next step and I have so many next step so I mean I think we’re going to talk about the things that I’m getting into now but they definitely do feel the weirdest part about it is that the things that I’m doing now in cryptocurrency in and sort of the libertarian sphere although I think that’s a box that I’m not really ready to fully put my selfie and although I do use the vocabulary just because it’s a dick sometimes it’s expedient and because that is a certain I guess perhaps audience that that could be receptive I think they were talking about something much much deeper here and certainly where I’m coming from is I am trying to be on that hero’s journey while I’m still on this Earth and so if it does All Steel although you know you’re moving from a gigolo to do cryptocurrency to I you know it’s speaking at the libertarian conferences around the world at the Met to some people seem like wow that’s kind of a jump It’s been a a very very smooth and clean and genuine movement of gross for me in moving through those fears and so you know I I bring with me all of the lessons that I indoc you know when those past years and and bring it through in it and now it does feel like things are really coming full circle in and I’m ready to really really manifest some things in the world that’s kind of the reason why I snap to it to to to invite you back on is because I do believe and we are going to get into this that the killer app that we’ve all been waiting for in crypto is quaint extend for a lot of reasons him and so you know one of the things I definitely want to get into probably around the middle of this talk is just something to even kind of put in the the subconscious realm right now for to Tucanes to honest at you I believe are going to be one of the next Eric Vorhees archetypes of hi Sue for hundreds of millions of dollars of valuation in your Enterprises and your your personal wealth and what Vin Armani can and will do with the blue sky budget to turn this world upside down for the better is the most exciting thing on the horizon I know about Soha preciate that I think that’s one thing I have not I haven’t you don’t we’re all so deep in the trenches of of current events and what the the potential Hazard of the crypto movement and all of these sort of event Horizons right and you were one who has the craft dialed in to be able to actually make the sort of global vision boar you can actually turn people into a harmonized vision and and I really would love to hear we’ll get to it you know what love to hear see that canvas of what you see as being possible if and when you achieve that level of of thumb of influence and that level of of wealth to be able to actually roll things out on just almost infinite scale and have them all kind of bootstrap each other so that’s not that’s a that’s a good topic I’d hate to jinx it but I would certainly love talking about Vision whether it’s me or whether it’s someone else I think that to articulate a vision you know when if it’s not me and it’s someone else listening that’s that’s just as good cuz for me it really doesn’t matter who it is because I’m about the vision it’s it’s not it doesn’t have to be me at all smart not hard leverage it get other people to chime in and make things execute you note to a greater picture for sure and yeah awesome cool right so now back to the sort of nuts and bolts of this to really I feel like every time I hear about another high-level government official from law enforcement to regulatory lot riding abandoned their posts with the government to join a crypto Consortium or a blockchain Consortium it’s just a call of the anarchists martyrs are are just cheering in their graves to know that you know the black flag of all of the battles for territory and for sovereignty that have been fought and in lost quite frankly to the tyranny of of physical violence by the state of the material plane we finally through the Ethereal realm of digital technology actually been able to advance and to a point where they’re deserting their posts to join what is the truth machine that you can’t take the truth out of the truth machine it isn’t you know it’s you got to get the truth and the truth started in this movement with the crypto Anarchist Manifesto and I’m going to go ahead and get a kick ass off with that to just chew on for many or so these this is just straight out of the what we’re talking about the Sci-Fi that this is why it’s a feeling to be and white Wi-Fi I’m bummed that it took me so long to discover this but here goes this is sort of the whole kind of fun copy from the cypherpunks mailing lists all star from the top with including the head of the email so from TC met at NETCOM. Com Timothy seemed a subject the crypto Anarchist Manifesto date Sunday November 22nd 1992 cypherpunks of the world several of you at the physical cypherpunks Gathering yesterday and Silicon Valley requested that more of the material passed out in meetings be available electronically to the entire leadership of the cypherpunks list Spooks eavesdroppers and all gold here’s the crypto Anarchist Manifesto I rid of the September 1992 found a meeting it dates back to bid 1988 and was distributed by some like-minded techno anarchists at the crypto 88 conference and then again at the hackers conference that year I later gave talks at hackers on this in 1989 and 1990 are a few things I changed but for historical reasons I’ll just leave it as it is some of the terms may be unfamiliar to you I hope the crypto glossary I distributed will help this should explain all those cryptic rooms in my signature Tim May here goes the crypto Anarchist Manifesto A specter is haunting the modern world the Specter of crypto Anarchy computer technology is on the verge of providing the ability for individuals and groups to communicate and interact with each other in a totally Anonymous manner two persons May exchange messages conduct business and negotiate electronic contracts without ever knowing the true name or legal identity of the other interactions over networks will be untraceable by extensive rerouting of encrypted packets and tamper-proof boxes which Implement cryptographic calls with nearly perfect Assurance against any tampering reputations will be of central importance far more important in dealings than even the credit ratings of today these developments will alter complete me the nature of government regulation is the ability to tax and control economic interactions the ability to keep information secret and will even alter the nature of trust and reputation the technology for this Revolution and it surely will be both a social and economic revolution has existed in theory for the past decade the methods are based upon public key encryption zero-knowledge interactive proof system and various software protocols for interaction authentication and verification the focus has until now been on academic conferences in Europe and the US conference is monitored closely by the National Security Agency but only recently have computer networks and personal computers that team sufficient speed to make the ideas practically realizable and the next 10 years will bring enough additional speed to make the ideas economically feasible and essentially Unstoppable high-speed networks is DM tamper-proof boxes smartcard satellite scoob and transmitters multi M IPS personal computers and encryption chips now under development will be some of the enabling Technologies the state will of course try to slow or halt the spread of this technology citing National Security concerns use of the technology by drug dealers in tax evaders tears of societal disintegration many of these concerns will be valid crypto Anarchy will allow National secrets to be traded freely and will allow Alyssa and stolen materials to be traded an anonymous computerized Market won’t even make possible Everett markets for assassinations and extortion various criminal and foreign elements will be active users of cryptonet but this will not halt the spread of Crypt of Anarchy just as a technology printing altered and reduce the power of medieval guilds and the Social Power structure SO2 will cryptologic methods fundamentally alter the nature of Corporations and of government interference in economic transactions combined with emerging information markets crypto Anarchy will create a liquid market for any and all material which can be put into words and pictures and just as a seemingly minor invention like barbed wire made possible the fencing off of vast ranches and Farms dust altering forever the concept of land and property rights in the frontier West so too will the seemingly minor discovery of an Arcane branch of mathematics come to be the wire clippers which this man the barbed wire around intellectual property arrives you have nothing to lose but your barbed wire fence is the aspect of that that is I think the most profound is how incredibly accurate it’s almost as though a time traveler I mean think about it you go through an every single thing does not want word that isn’t that hasn’t come to fruition every single thing and not only that in chronological order right and it’s so you know you start to wonder in this is you know I joke about I do this hashtag vinster Damas right that it’s like it’s getting to be a joke that like I’ll say something on my show which is one of the reasons why I like having a show is because I can say things and then like 3 months later it happens but it’s not a betting Market a crippled chain things that I’m doing but it’s because when you’ve studied enough about particularly about how individual humans behave and then you get a little bit of history and a little bit of Economics you don’t have to have much but like I’m a history buff and I love studying economics and I you know either I embody sort of the all the traits of psychotherapy particularly as being at you know in my time as an escort it’s like you get to be like down in the trenches really learning what motivates people and particularly what keeps people coming back to talk to you right to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to talk to you you start also learned a lot about yourself in your own motivation I think what’s the deepest aspect of that is it when you have the technology and you see okay here’s this technology and it’s now been placed into the wild even a little bit then you can do a logical progression because there’s really nothing new Under the Sun we might think you know what I love that the analogy of the barbed wire fence and the wire cutters or the printing press and it’s interesting him using that printing press analogy it’s been used again and again now I bite that document I probably first saw in about 1998 cuz I mean I was a hacker at the time right and so that was floating around on bulletin boards and what not you know along with things like the Anarchist Cookbook and whatnot these were all these little things that people were collecting and that they were putting into these compiling as being part of this hacker culture and you know what the time like you say it was Science Fiction it’s like wow this is going to be this is this is crazy science fiction except know it’s a logical progression and the reason why good science fiction works is because it’s believable that this could be the future right I mean William Gibson prime example so in your home answer right that was the first time that he ever use the term cyberspace and I think that as we look at that book in particular and we look at what our fears are of artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence researchers you almost wonder they’ve already William Gibson of course but you almost wonder are they designing to the book or was the book just that much of a of a prophecy that that was the logical progression I mean he wrote a book called virtual light that’s basically the story of Google glass-like the device that’s that’s the fundamental sort of a MacGuffin in that book is this this pair of glasses that you look through and you get augmented reality and I think he wrote that in two or something like that 93 so this is what makes great science fiction good the thing is that now things are moving so fast that when we talk about things that science fiction they could be a year away right right we’ve got you on musk shooting things into space he just yesterday put out this hyperloop video that’s crazy you know he’s boring underneath Los Angeles and it’s like this video looks like something that Dad that would be in a William Gibson novel and yet here’s the here’s of the CGI video of it but it will be a reality in like 5 years so we’re in this weird space like Terence McKenna. I was just going to say yeah right it’s like time-wave zero almost right now he has sped up its bed up to the point where you know it don’t like do we reach the transcendental object at the end of History like how close are we to that it’s an interesting time to be alive and I don’t know when it comes to crypto Anarchy you know for those people who are Anarchist for those people who are libertarian one of the reasons why I am such a forceful advocate for crypto and for bringing people along is that if you’re already there philosophically and you’re not there technologically there’s a problem you’re going to you’re not going to be able to fully manifest what you want to see in the world in your lifetime which is a real possibility if you’ll Embrace this technology exactly yeah you know I can actually dropped it recently on on one of your shows that you were kind of shipping on the deterrence theme about shamans and artists from the future so it’s like you enter into that creative space and you just it just rains on you you know this these glimpses from the future of the Sci-Fi sort of feedback loop is interesting feedback loop between actual future events and then the sort of artists and authors who are predicting them and yeah if you were this is so this is so apt in what’s happening and then you know that the time-wave zero it’s the take home from that from anybody who isn’t familiar with it or anybody who blew it off when 2012 didn’t you know open a violet door into hyperspace you know I think it fucking did your sleep like how could you deny that I sent it with her it was exactly 2012 but like let’s be real like we’re talkin about smartphones in like 2008 Bitcoin in 2009 is like just those two technologies just those two the smartphones have already completely changed the landscape of what it is to be a human being it’s completely changed it that was actually the introduction of cyborgs we are already cyborgs is it going to snow melted with the machine it’s already true take somebody’s take somebody’s iPhone away for a day and see if they don’t start reaching for it in their pocket like a phantom limb like a fiend right oh my God is the semantics of the singularity us becoming a global board hivemind through the internet that is the singularity we are the machine and luckily thanks to this for side of the crypto that you could the Vatican cypherpunks were actually able to own in and really actually in a laboratory manager has the sword is on the steering wheel the power to to actually drive spaceship earth in the direction that we collectively you will see is his for the benefit of some of all of this for or perhaps to stop driving right because this is how I interpret what has had I interpret that the end of the entire Crux of human history until until this point has been us attempting to drive spaceship earth and where we’ve been attempting to drive it is back to source and what source is for us human beings for our particular species what separates hours of our species from every other species is is our capacity for communication and it’s not just our capacity for communication between individuals because there’s a great many species that have that capacity and some of them have it on a much greater scale than we do and that we would then we ever will between individuals but us to communicate across time and across space and that’s as fundamentally what makes humans humans and when we started out as a species we were able to communicate instantly with and face to face and voice to voice and even you touch and to smell and to have a $0.05 communication with every other human being on the planet that first family right however many of the hominids that that were our ancestors that we are all as a species derived from they were able to communicate to every single other human being on the planet and at the moment when that’s that tribe that Clan grew so big that they split apart and one family went you know on a search for more resources because resources were running out or maybe there were they scattered to the winds ever since that time we’ve been trying to find a way to get back to that place to that one family to be able to reach out and touch and smell and and interact with every other human being on the planet and that was a fantasy until in our lifetimes and we are now returning to that point and when we get to that point P I believe that is our Singularity because I believe that’s why restart that’s when we hit the reset button then we become a new species and it’s going to be it is because of the machines and it is because of us integrating ourselves with this technology which by the way is not unnatural it it does not come from an unnatural place it’s it’s manifested from inside of us from inside of our Consciousness it’s it’s abstractions that we have made manifest into the physical world that that wanted to emerge and to merge and so that’s what we’re really dealing with at this point and so what we as a generation in particular and it’s going to be our generation that’s going to either do this right or wrong is we’re making a return to the garden now and the question is are we going to learn from this journey of piloting spaceship earth because now we have a chance to become truly a galactic species that’s our next step are we going take out off of this planet and into the Galaxy are we going to start over as what we can be or are we going to take all an M that means the garden all of those things that we all of those the violence and all the witches in Act of course and it helped us to survive and in that time but it’s due to come to in a new realization in our own Consciousness and in our biology and not to say that we are that it to recognize the shadow right to recognize that that’s there to recognize that this is what we are as a species but to also embrace the idea that as individuals that we can raise our Consciousness in that that’s positive know we have the choice both of those examples have been presented to us throughout history on both sides right of both sides of that and it will we find that balance as we become a galactic species because it’s a foregone conclusion now it’s not a question of if we’re going to the Stars it was a question so we’ve got to decide are we going to carry on the things that aren’t that we needed to survive in this harsh environment but now that we have become especially Gods we become as mythological Gods now that we’ve become as gods are we going to be those warring gods or are we going to be those guys who got their shit together that’s the question I asked you definitely gives you glimpses into civilizations Beyond this galaxy that have figured out the balance of technology and spirituality materialism actually that what just came to mind was it a quote if I can remember it anywhere near the sodality of the original affecting parents ended one of his talks went saying no we will we be Street Smart in the ways of demonic materialism and able to come back to the family farm and eating with that wisdom and certainly if we’re going to go out in space and not leave the Earth is smoldering Cinder like so many dystopic novels then it’s going to take a yeah well so beautiful and so this is already it’s great cuz it’s just weaving itself cuz I wanted to get into the Psychedelic influences and now this is probably a good segue before we get back into another section of a texture I’d like to read the the cypherpunk manifesto to put that just sort of on the record year but to give us a little conclusion here do you want to talk about just sort of some a broad overview of how your psychedelic Explorations and experiences have informed your interfacing with technology and certainly your Inspirations for coding and and just done with a broad topic but since we kind of got into the Terrance space and all that it be great that you know put that now for a bit and then we’ll get back into the sure sure well you know it’s interesting it’s been 25 years since my first psychedelic experience and psychedelics have been a part of my life and a companion companions I should say the various different us Spirits there but they’ve been companions for me throughout and it’s just now that I’m able to start articulating what course I’ve embodied a lot but that I’ve it’s just now maybe in the past few months that I’ve even been able to articulate what influence really that that psychedelic Journey has had on me and I think and some of it has been going back and listening to Terence McKenna that it’s weird because about every five years I will go and try to delve in into to Terrance and I get something new every single time and it what you realize is a while this was a true Master Hood really gone all the way out there and then come back you know what I mean in and so is its there’s there’s great depth but what I realize is and you know I’m realizing more and more now it was getting into the Ayahuasca community that I kept being confronted by people as you know you would share your story on in ceremony and and after and and in just so you know communion with those other people and they would constantly say to me while you’re a shaman you’re a shaman you’re a shaman you know what the things that I was was doing it it never never resonated with me because I never really really really understood that but you know Mirchi eliada has kept coming up over the last year so I went out and got the the his book a classic book on Shamanism in and read that and and Terrence getting into Shamanism and I think they’re really it can affect house and then vice versa and then I know some companies for penis or dildos that they may operate with each other as well so there’s that I’m so for real I think it’s really been I think it’s mostly popular among cameras we are always interested in focusing on relationships intimacy so there is that as a result of the development with held it on for men that was Toys R Us been a bit better but no one’s for for you know that or maybe towards women other people who might like to try something different than a genital to genital contact different types of really interesting as well so so it’s like that old is Onyx or the 268 Patton and it expires after it’s 20 year on this August about not exactly the exact date but it’s about a goddess when it when it expires and so this is really significant because there I’m not sure if your readership is familiar with this project. Tried to get off the ground and you know really small startups that it’s a really interesting things with a couple of things and I’m really pushing for it or you know development but unfortunately because there’s this really wide Haughton but cover is basically sexual communication over the Internet a lot of people have been sued or shut down in there if they’ve had to fight legal battles that you know that are basically you know it’s the cost of the lawyers even if it’s pro bono I like one company like I think it was cold is getting towed when I was getting sick because they were looking for prior art and you know there has been you know the ideal tell the dogs existed before this time I actually was granted however they’ve been successful in suing people and people just cuddling cuz they don’t want to deal with you know all the legal problems that go with it so he was able to get it dropped but having to pee but I don’t think it was a nice process for for the mobile that was not fun and I think they got a new thing I did find a pro bono lawyer in Endor if I had a face match lie angle to remain in the space so it’ll be after this August to see if people are really interested in how old Onyx or if you know if it was kind of holding it and it’ll be interesting to see how it grows I expect more with live timing actually has more campsites have Incorporated chip activated sex toys so sex toys that will that will basically responded to the sound of text so when someone is watching a cam performance that you know they checking and whatever the ticking noises or Whatsapp might change the intensity or what device can do so yeah that’s an exciting thing to look for and there’s that Hypes they’re not really marketed towards my body but I think it’s exciting and I’d like to see more in there I just don’t I’m not sure I’ve heard some people really like it arson but I think that like there’s much more sophisticated Technologies because I think with which is it was very low Fidelity like you all the sexual movements you can make and compared to a without quit that may be a smart dildo or smart Middlesex leaves can do is like you know there’s so much Lost in Translation so keep an eye on for next year well well I guess this makes me think they eventually they’ll probably have some sort of pressurized suit where you could actually just have a regular massage that way you don’t even erotic now is standing but it just seems like things are going to move in that direction anyway of just remote everything in the eyes I was even thinking now you’re saying this if if you were if you were wanting to do this more of a sexual therapeutic thing and you were in if it’s it’s like the it’s been very treacherous the territory of being surrogates and I’m sure the lot of the sex surrogates that have existed since it’s been legal least in the US has to have been in situations that they probably would have much rather had had some sort of mediation device that could actually perform physical manipulation of flesh but we’re not with them having to be right there you know in the room but that you could actually be like in like in some lab Booth where you’re behind the glass but there is a surrogate apparatus or likeness of a human or something that you can speak through with that you can move through and it will be kind of like a like a space suit or something but you’re not interview at those those robots that they put out the work on space stations if you could work on it unless someone sexually LDV and a harmful way and you could actually induce certain forms of somatic Therapies in that that might be even more scalable than trying to find the people brave enough to want to do that stuff cuz yeah I think this will hopefully go in that direction or this everybody will is Hedonism will be counterbalanced by the therapy going to be a big competition for a robot out of tar so that is heard about exercise but it also had funded project to make the first digital tricorder in with a Star Trek tricorder that basically diagnosis in the competition’s on what’s the guys name I forget what a multimillion-dollar basically tries to you know get these robot out of Hearts made it and I didn’t I don’t believe there’s any connection to sex but it’s more to help people in remote locations doctor service is or Nurse Services of course development and Technology happening with money behind it up some big implications for what’s possible all right well this is a whole nother I raised money to do a the first porn in space in are they raised I don’t know some percentage of their goal but that was interesting headline I sell alpaca should I I don’t know that it wasn’t quite there gold but yeah then I haven’t heard anything about whether or not happen but I’m sure it will eventually he’ll be in there and on top of that there was a harness device that would allow for zero gravity so that people could reproduce in space cuz if people thought is like what happens if you start to try to get it on I’m sure that’s enough to try but what if you end up swinging yourself across the space shuttle and then you lose the ejaculate in this is floating in the air NASA has spent sending it has already sperm to space just to basically see all the details but yeah they’re they’re wondering if it’s possible to reduce gravity going to affect reproduction is it going to make it as easy like how is sperm motility yes oh yeah and I mean that people are going to want to call and eyes Mars eventually or it’s not like they want to now so yeah I wonder they sex is coming just don’t know it is coming and no pun intended of well that’s interesting cool then see if we can assume any other so we got to tell the Don X and everybody’s pretty well are there any other innovations that we should be aware of I’m certainly yet I didn’t know there was that patent situation so I’m really kind of in the dark anything at this year please what’s interesting is just how in the last couple years or last year really there’s been just a lot more female lunch printer is coming and so I think that’s great because if you don’t like the pornography that’s out there but like granted it is at the clean a do you know you like a course in something about pornography with sex toys and sex tech products if you don’t marry the thing is is that there haven’t been so many going into it in the past the developers have been mail and she know that’s how that’s how it’s been but you know if you’re craving for that if you’re you know things for women that they haven’t liked so much more talk from an entrepreneur is making products and focusing on women’s pleasure in the in a sex-positive way which is really really important and in that kind of a kind of discussing the orgasm Gap and I don’t know if you know where the workout some tacos but it’s basically different studies that show different types of something like or just had her in sexual encounters I think men for the most part are like nine times out of ten they’re going to have an orgasm and then for women it’s in between one and two thirds of the time they’re going to have an orgasm so I mean it’s not like I always like to say it’s not all about orgasm there’s there’s more to Sexton that but just you know there is where is the discrepancy in and I don’t think there’s been enough focused on women’s pleasure and women focusing on their own pleasure okay because I know what you like and be open to just finding that out and so I’m just a really excited about how there’s this more women and sex text no putting their horses out there and if you don’t like their products which it which I I love products products I’m just saying like you know there’s this stuff there that’s that’s that’s happening it’s a great it’s a great thing to do if I guess right thing I wish there was more of us when I was growing up not sure I would have been if exposed to it because it’s hard to advertise when you are insects taxable I’d say it’s really positive it’s the adult performers sex check which they overlap but then there’s there’s different is that there are more women directors and creating Studios and I think I think that’s that’s great you know I think there’s more diversity the better and so about comes with like books of all backgrounds you know I think that the more people from different walks of life to develop products that are there software you know whatever it is a different really help cut down on the negative sexual things that happens with abuse assault that’s awesome. Do you have any on the platforms and the and we’re not to you that you publish on have you done a series or would you think about doing a series or anyting the chronicle sorted profiling women in insects take or women who are entrepreneurs in the space so that I will be happy thrilled to know more about than just be is that something that that you might do like a specific unit of focus on at some point so we can look into that later International women’s day we had a writer put together a peace sign about I think maybe 11 women in sex tech that you are doing interesting things and I hope we’ve also covered if you act like just serious but we do cover for a lot of different male female I mean he would but I guess they’re not going to find it but we just all genders in between and we’ve covered CEO Polly Rodriguez of Unbound and she’s really great shoes I don’t know if you’ve heard of her but she co-founded the women of sex tech community so she’s based in New York and Unbound is her company and it basically creates products for women and sell products for women’s pleasure and a really like it because it makes you feel good about yourself on their commercialism but you know that market in a way that it just because you know they’re really speaking to a demographics I think has been underserved well is that how Polly co-founded women have sex talking so it’s been like a networking group mostly for ladies who are or women identifying people to talk about problems and getting funny because I mean this is the times I’ve heard differing views and I’m not a funding sometimes and then with women going in there they might get treated a bit weirdly like they don’t really appreciate it or there’s just not as much interest in focusing or investing in Need for women’s pleasure but I think women are the future of sex. Net and we’ll have definitely have articles featuring women who are in it and then I think it’s women of sex tech stuff, and that’s just a bunch of women in sex tech or sex-related online projects that you know you might be interested if you don’t know a lot of women entrepreneurs in the space store in publishing online that’s cool I’m so I was at the crypto invest Summit in Los Angeles recently and there was a women in blockchain panel and there’s a number of there’s a really powerful really amazing women in the blockchain space were organizing and creating a different groupings in and just looking at a think it’s something like I don’t know where anywhere between effort numbers between only 2% of venture funding goes to women in Navy up two at the most like 10% but that’s probably generous so we have a long way to go and that’s that space is so much more I have a lot more hope for for transformation of culture through Venture funding when I do through replacing people on you know positions of authority and Power & politics to let you know that everywhere but I’m not really thrilled to know about that cuz I feel like yeah whatever whatever dystopian futuristic sex text scenarios might happen with really may be corrupted ingredient you know harmfully perverted men if their women in the space of Mino writing proposals and business models in business plans in pitching then hopefully more enlightened more feminist friendly future will be a that was my home okay so you’re moving along to another question so there has been it’s weird I feel like the green the go green kind of Boom it’s it’s almost like I don’t know I want I don’t want to call it a bubble but it seems like I remember in the late in the late 2000 and early 2000s around between 2822 I don’t know what you have wouldn’t wouldn’t say when it stops at any point but it did really kind of get big there was directors of sustainability positions opening up in all these different firms and I’ll and institutions and Recycling and just a sort of Renaissance of of the Earth Day by but it really got up the nerve is everybody wanted to go green and I don’t know if you get the sense of that sort of faded a bit from a Zeitgeist maybe people have gotten just more all about apps and all about smartphones and just like that in that movement and it around Elsa was big with the Inconvenient Truth coming out there and then being a I see a lot of celebrities speaking out about a lot more I think on the other half of the Earth but I’m noticing a gap I don’t know if you have noticed it but I’m curious now if you feel like in the specific unisex take space if there are people who are really coming out saying I hate let’s do this let’s do this development of psychological development for sexuality but let’s do it with certain environmental ethics and protocols in place as far as carbon footprint and as far as you know sustainability and sustainable products and materials and all but I feel like these people are really losing sight of the supply chain of Technology from ecological perspective I don’t know if you have any thoughts on that but for the sex tech industry I don’t think it has a great track record when it comes to sustainable projects or at least not in promoting them I imagine I think that if I had a better track record I hear about it cuz the pr people like to tell you what they’re doing great there is people like lovehoney they’re like and basically trying to make more vegan products so that’s not necessarily that let me hear me say that again like so it’s about regarding like semen safety and then making sure there aren’t animal products in your sex toys and I’m not an expert on that but there has been more discussion about vegan products and then and I think there’s some companies that really promote that is alternatives to leather like some type of a vegan alternative but yeah I don’t I don’t think it has a great track record I haven’t really heard much about it there are some 3D 3D printed 3D printing projects I’ll hear about every once in awhile and what kind of push like I’m an environmentalist point of you sometimes because I’m guessing you’ve heard of Eco sexual arousal stainable 3D printed sex toys that they people can fit themselves and any use out outside historic site right now project was called dildo at yourself idea of you know generally instead of mass producing a million sex toys like one-size-fits-all with 3D printing you know there’s more customizability so that’s that I think 3D printing has but just so you know it’s just because you 3D print something it doesn’t mean you should put it in your 30s to be like a protective coating put on auctions increases the technology gets better you will have to do all this DIY stuff. I got a clitoris 3D printed because there is an open source 3D printing projects to get that. I’m basically just to raise awareness because you know most of the clitoris is internal and people don’t know that and they don’t realize like they see just one little thing about that looks like underneath so I got that I don’t have a 3D printer but I went to something called like three beehives and basically it just links you to people in your area I’m in a very like safe manner I felt that are able to print designs for you and decent cost so I mean back something as well instead of like that can change how business is done because you don’t need to buy your own face 3D printer you there are going to be already are in this going to be more and if so needed to spend all the money you can get somebody else to do this and I don’t think the guy who cares right I want to get princess just a personal services so there’s it’s possible that is really cool I feel like if you could through and I have never thought about that really you know I’m kind of cynical and jaded and in my old old-fashioned but isn’t didn’t really think about how great it would be if there were even somehow edible totally organic totally cruelty-free edible ingredients to take to create these shapes with using machines like that mean I could be something that gives Pizza waiting two years for a part to arrive you can know we have the skin the scheme of anything friendship you know when the anti-globalization movement failed to stop the sort of thumb race to the bottom of wages where the sweatshops of the world with the lowest environmental standards for materials is like all of this plastic stuff that’s being manufactured in sweatshops and then shipped back to the US if the 3D printer can make that entire the bottom dropped out of that market because it’s so cheap as it is but if you could eliminate all of those Logistics by the way you’re saying like a localized distributed open source way to get the same sort of 99 cent store that you have your own 99 cent store in your garage take out that whole corrupted supply chain of international trade that’s really not with what is not healthy for the time but the news like bioprinting and I think people are the really interested in the house applications of of regenerative Technologies and Technologies and I think that there is no try that is possible to create it’s going to be possible at least a crate pills that are for like really targeted for the person so instead of giving like everybody like this is just a standard dosage know some people need different Doses and elderly people are often prescribed medications and so will you just expect another slice of this type of printing it has so many applications that can really enhance like you know what you said you could help get rid of fireman by cutting out all that transport and you know hopefully make fruit quality of life as well as medicine very good very good so I think whoever do with all that stuff a couple questions I have here if we have a few more minutes to get to wrap up I think we covered I was going to ask if you would share some with some women like space but it sounds like we got some good resources for that we laid out and I appreciate that so people can follow up and and look at those and then I guess the met the last question will be if you yourself had a blue sky budget to develop the start-up of your dreams and their futuristic sex text space What would be one of your dream projects if you’ve ever been in a brainstorming about it yeah well it’s a big question I would say yeah I think for for sex tech me to get payment and Publishing done on our own terms and stop Outsourcing like for instance you know trying there’s some people Facebook doesn’t allow any sex advertising or it could be something really likes a fish for work basic it is not like it’s hard to advertise the banks and I’m peanut processors they can just freeze your account and so I think something I mean maybe it wouldn’t be blockchain we would have to develop something but with the Sky High budget I just think that is made for and by the sex tech industry so that we’re not reliant on you know people who don’t have necessarily the intellects Experience open my Nest help a Dolores extech Industries you know so I understand why some companies want to get Facebook eyes but you know I don’t I think that’s just open a can of worms in a bit because it’s what’s good sex what’s bad sex should Facebook me to finding that and just in terms of online publishing a 90% about enchiladas Revenue goes to like Google or Facebook the duopoly so again if you’re publishing picture people are making money but it’s mostly those two people and so I think the way to Circle wait this I don’t think we should be like cow coloring to these big big companies that have all this power but not necessarily open-mindedness and I totally agree with that it’s a huge pain point and Swan that I’ve certainly been let me know what I can say for personal experience I’ve had videos go viral on the more mainstream platforms that I shall not name but the second they really go viral they get deplatformed and that could have been career-changing for me you know if you have to build an audience so maybe it’s funny because Yahoo started out very much a highly trafficked adult almost classified platform if I’m not mistaken but there was there was a sort of kick-starting bootstrapping golden age of adult in the early days of the internet that got quickly sort of extinguish I don’t know why they don’t just have an official vetted adult only access sphere of their own Enterprises even if it’s a subsidiary with a different name or something if they have some distance from you know politically or something but they’re definitely missing out you know I don’t know why they don’t figure out how to make their algorithms could do anything I mean your algorithms good figure out how to only serve with I mean cuz I just wiped out a lot of they demonetized a lot of of content producers who run anything that could possibly be controversial for advertisers but why not just say oh you’re up you’re a right-wing gun that freak you know that whatever will hear is you get all of those ads and Penny Play Say Something for everybody so and I’m not putting that down imma you know that there’s there’s I’m just an example of what some of what gets with what get some persecuted by that but yeah I totally agree with that and I do feel like hopefully blockchain and you know these new permissionless content platforms like steam at for example as a good example publishing platform where you can get paid for your content and they just have a very intuitive there it is checkbox for not NSFW right and that’s it that’s all you need to know self-select I don’t know if it’s the community can can certify a gate but then it doesn’t get deleted it just goes into that not-safe-for-work category in that is all you really need a break myself but yeah that that’s a great a great idea hopefully everything will come to you to help the guy that process and you know actually know if I just have one less thing to put out there since I have you on the line and the folks who are the fans of your work might might get into this I don’t know if this is been done yet I don’t see how it seems like it would be the easiest no-brainer sort of fork of some sort of Open Source Code for a nap but basically you bringing bringing sex tech Down to Earth for my ecosexual perspective that I would love to see there be an app that’s exactly like Airbnb but what it specializes in is connecting people who are like glamping you know but for sex places where you can have sex in nature and go to a place in private property that is a place where you can go and feel free at this like like monetizing private 611 Tantra temples but but at the very least just feel like I’ve got a bunch of land with you know a cabin on it and I would love for people couples or whoever to go out there and have their full moon rituals and not be bothered people gawking at them or you know complaining about it and they can be as you can be as loud as you need to be to really go deep with sexuality which we also do not have the access to seal open up you know what their vocal cords as much as feel free being naked and Nathan Wyld so yeah let’s have an airbag recall are birds and bees like that so cool well hopefully yeah all of our dreams come true here to certainly plenty of plenty of resources being thrown around and now in the crypto Stacy know I’ve never seen so many hundreds of millions of dollars / around the planets online exchanges they never before so they do you know if there’s a will there’s a way let’s get well let’s hope for the best and certainly be optimistic about the potential for anything now yeah cool said you’re going to give your websites and Sandy final closing words anything else before we sign off your podcast cuz I’ve been a fan for a while so it’s nice to be here and you want to check out the 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Net we’re just vamping to be a responsive shame I know it took so long but it’s going to look a bit different soon if you are visiting today it’s not responsive just yeah you’re still a sex-positive future dates or anything we should be aware of I definitely can see YouTube easy easy for most corresponding all these matters I had no clue about a lot of this stuff and I’m so thank you for enlightening us and we will definitely be in touch soon thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provide ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Damas de