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Permaculture Eco-Warriors Establish The Moshram Part 2 TPP281

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In this episode I’m joined by MC Mycopath for a two part series on the past, present, and future of his personal permaculture journey and the establishment of The Moshram

My Non Verbatim Show Notes

MM:

10 years doing landscape consultations, small scale urban repurposing of people’s front and back yards, more hip with local, everything that’s taking place, microbio in soil, plants that co-mingle,

also consulting folks with health

certifications achieved through multiple biochemists

learned that the more fresh foods that we consume, the healthier our cells are

the body that takes us around here

with that, understanding and passion for that, I really wanted to be able to provide highest quality product of food for myself and others, coupled with education

spin farming, brother and I spin farming, didn’t necessarily bring in permaculture

added permaculture principle layer to spin farming

densely growing high value crops in small area

regenerate the living systems

help maintain my living system, at a cellular level, also at a financial and social level

been about 5 years, that I’ve been on this site, had multiple sites over the years

site, least likelihood of it being taken from underneath my feet, all apart of journey

seeing successes and failures in past projects

led me to finding this space

it was through a friend, that was aware that I was looking to scale up

spin farming in brothers back yard, with brother

then when on to slightly expanding at space I was at

really like to bring it all to one location and just do this

generally around vegetable crops

annuals predominantly

put in a layer of perennial crops

also longer term species, fruit trees

learned fascinating things about fruit

fruit tree requires least amount of water over long time period

gives back a lot to soil

soil is really just millions or billions of living organisms

eating pooping, dying, whole things perpetuating

through roots and leaves, branches, fruits, they drop all feeding system

year in year out

bring together this whole concept

put it at a term, silvopasture

rows of fruit trees, or some type of tree

aid in creating shade

aid in slowing down wind

not requiring a lot of water, relative to other annual crops

in between rows, would grow annual crops

maybe these annual crops are things just to regenerate soil

rotational crop, in between lettuce, grow vetch, cow pea, to reinvigorate the soil from what was depleted from what was the previous crop you cultivated

what we set out to do here

very densely packed rows of vegetable crops to sell at market and too individuals through CSA type program

longer term species of varying fruit trees

simply move forward upon goals of project, something that’s always an unknown, fortunately and unfortunately, that collaborative team of 3 individuals broke down

mediator, wasn’t sustainable, they didn’t vibe well, both wanting to walk away which they did

I was not very interested in walking away from another project, having it swept out from under me, again ,because these two egos weren’t collaborating

move post differences

differences got in the way

I wasn’t feeling, stepping away from all of the work we had done from contouring the land, to bringing in so much organic matter, infusing bacterium, all sorts of soil microbiology

perennial fruit trees, you have to wait some time, 3-5 years minimum to reap harvest

I didn’t have it in me to just be like you guys aren’t into, either am I, I am into it

don’t just want to do it here, want to perpetuate this stamp, different biomes

so cal region, mediteranean biome, only about 7 med, climates on the planet, tend to be the most lucrative for humans to co-exist with surroundings, temperatures, food crops, wild and domesticated

love to see what it’s like in other bioregions as well, other climatic elements

we’ve got going on what we have here

you came forward saying how interested you were in helping perpetuate this project, it was like the clouds parted

working on this site, we’re on 10s of acres, just working out a little over an acre, just maintenance alone for one person is daunting to say the least

just because we put together a holistic system doesn’t mean there’s no more work

actually perpetual, no end to amount of work, just in pruning things, cultivating

easy to plant seed, easy to harvest, cultivation in between, I don’t know if it’s gonna survive or not, I’ll do everything I can

lot of energy mental, physical, spiritual

one dude, isn’t gonna hold the world on his back man, either are two

TP: makes me think I’m gonna use another term for defining permaculture and call it ecological parenthood

caring for something to maturity

young families go through it, terrible twos, fighting, health similar thing

tree system here, adolescent,

MM: not as easy as dealing with child, can’t teach a tree how to fight off a squirrel, they’re bullies

TP: the timeliness of this, synchronicities will be unveiled later

rick straussman, first actual government sanctioned psychedelic research studies since the 70s, gap of 20 years

spirit molecule, interviewed,

recently, basically saying, people would ask did he take DMT,

he would give a vague answer or plausible deniability

eventually recently came out, admitted, yeah, I was doing it

I’m like fuck yeah, I wanted to hear that for so many years, scientist had the balls to do what he was talking about

ties back together, something he said, meta level life philosophy

you know, back then I had my whole career ahead of me still, a lot to lose, judged, critique, older, less of my life left, that’s much less life to lose

we’re at a point where I don’t want to piss off the wrong people, I don’t want to be a target, wait til we have resilience before we have grand opening at this site

eventually will ripened, eventually forced by demand, people will need it

sweet spot in time, security measures, support we need, capital, be in place for the time we want to open the gates

get to that point when, we did the thing, not much left to lose, tell the story, give real names, not give a fuck

certain things now, I feel like, at least statute of limitations has run out on some things, one metric

that feeling, we’ll get to a point where we don’t have that much to lose

my side of story of having fallen in love with this site, toured project in the past, wishing I could be more connected, occasion to visit

definitely feel like it was one of the most epic works in progress of so cal permaculture

ability to do it right

social permaculture dynamics of human sector, zones of humans, sector of humans, human elements, could have most beautiful property, dynamics surrounding neighbors be your worst enemy, false starts,

time energy, blood, blisters, heart ache, amount of effort that goes into permaculture project, somebody that’s they’re mission, to have that be continually ripped out in front of you

people don’t even see it

persecution of religious sects, we are the lost tribe of permies, that are constantly being haranged by neighbors

adapted us also to travel light in our personal empires

positive side effect of lifestyle of ecological romance

nudge nature to create symphonies of seed and soil

less hindered

student of Tyler Durgen, waking up after car crash with Edward Norton, the world I see, laying out strips of vennisen

hunter gathers, thriving on the carcass of industrial collapse

utopian anarchoprimitivists, intellectual elite, from eugene, green anarchist, wanna be poser,

not everybody was a poser, the heads that were the elitist, very hyper intellectual, authors and writers, wind bags, had all this talk

in eugene the founder of food not lawns, we’d go there talk bs about living primitive, blessing her with presence of our lofty conversations, decades later we don’t have our food forest, we don’t have fruit trees maturing, resentment, burnt bridges

super extra appreciate hard work that’s been done

this site, work you’ve done, huge grace, a pass, I could and should very well be punished for how far I’ve strayed from the path of planting trees, defending them, standing by them, storms, storming off of partners and lovers, mission and duty to make a stand

there’s a lot of times I’ve said this is not the hill I’m gonna die on, and this is the first time I can actually say this is a high that I would die on, for a lot of reasons, biggest gift to me, is to know

who is tantra punk, wacko jerk off wanna be tyler durgen alter ego, that split off from psychedelic ceremonies that got botched, and now this floating soul part of my old wounded self, has created this internet porn star wanna be freak, don’t have much ecological, I have bastard children trees, all over the place, to be able to be like

while you were out there, doing this thing, that could have got you in trouble, some what of an adventure, fool hardy, never would have expected that I could just cheat that time that I walked away from the permaculture path, did this freaky stuff

hey ben, dinners ready, fruit falling from trees, I just get to get back into the zone, almost 10 years since I was in deep coastal mountain broad acre permaculture, doing the trees, doing the systems right, the scale, the soil

waltz into this at a point you’d be beleagured, bromance novel cover if there ever was one

thanks to the designer of designers, tip had lift glass to him

be great to go into the shark tank part of this, now the reinforcements in the form of me and my humble but growing financial capital I can put in to keep things afloat, elbow grease, sweat equity

optimizing dance of mutuality, with responsibilities, rights, tasks, finances, between the two of us

alchemy we’re doing, the renaissance of this project, bring into 2.0 era

trajectory of , drawing from the permies community, paul wheaton, survival podcast, larry santoyo, different instructors we’ve had

business model for the site, the rebel farmers like sepp holzer, austria, kramaterohoff, epic contour narrow ponds support subtropical microclimates, high elevation fruit trees

so abundant, epic, done epic shit, considered to be the ultimate rock star, don’t think any other place on earth, other mature permculture projects, the profitability and scale and grandeur, I don’t know what I would compare to the kramaterhoff on earth

wonders of the world of permaculture tour, walk through it sometime

business model, everything else in agriculture sector, globalized race to the bottom, poison, toxic

convince people to want to buy american, niche for premium products, usually sick people who can afford to take your advice

don’t want to give crutch of supplying, want to teach them to do it themselves, leverage their acreage, their community

the idea of farming to enable other people to not be horticulturalists, shift from that as soon as possible

paradigm, living the dream, market gardeners, the biproduct of creating plenty of best varieties of food we’d like to eat, we’ll have excess, and with that excess we can play god to an extent in the economy because of how much of ecological ninjas we are

rather than try to package it all in plastic, get it in all the stores, scale it to the world

we make a more dense local economy out of it, healing center, learning center, teaching them how to fish, not selling them a fish per se

in my crude nut shell of a pitch, that’s the trajectory we’ve been most in agreement about

if somebody had infinite budget to invest, why should they buy into this as working co-op member, or non-working co-op member, how can people benefit from helping us

MM: few dudely dudes, I’ve met could really have no care to well being of nature around them, small minority of people I’ve spoken with of time on this path, over 20 years

experience with biodiesel co-op, very localized project, I would do education to engineering firms, groups

education at earth day festivals, people contribue, become non-working members of biodiesel co-op because they like what’s going on, think it’s a good direction

if anybody has capital, monetary, social, spiritual, any of the 8 forms of capital, that they are willing to share to perpetuate, the direction of this project

this may sound overzealous, I couldn’t think of a better project, or more dedicated individuals to invest that capital in

it’s one of those put your money where your mouth is

my clients in landscaping and in the health regeneration, many of them, actually buy into what I have to share, because of how I’m living my life

I’m not just using words, I’m hands in the soil, I’m doing everything I can at every corner

from what I know of you, been a crucial part of so many projects, that at one point or another it wasn’t your jive anymore for whatever reason

here we are find ourselves together on a mountain we’re will to die on

and it takes a community always

for anyone that would like to be a part of this community and see it perpetuate

be able to visit the site

local,

to benefit from the harvests of all of this, where else are you gonna put your money, time, energy, love

I’m not sure

it’s like you said man, this is one of the rare sites of southern california, any and all help, helps perpetuate a holistic project, working towards the great good of the local and world community when it comes down to it

held a lot of retreats, get people from all over the world, host in tropics, pretty good centralized area, highly abundance

ripe things to eat, throughout the year

amount of people that congregate, so diverse, so incredible, have a lot to share

at this point we have a site that any and all people interested have the ability to share

before it’s all been other people’s sites, very temporary, the time that gets spent there

long term expanded version of those experiences, and “retreats”

where else are you gonna put your resources, if you want to see great things happen, cause that’s all we’re really into

passionate

tend to only roll with those who are equally passionate about making this place a better place to be

agenda 21,

different concept of human settlement zones, from what we’re working towards here

TP: yes

to say the most and the least, that says it all, what could I add to that

nuts and bolts of this business modeling, goes back to legacy of my parents at some point will read the manifesto my father wrote for member based, for-profit nonprofit, fruit based operation, deep in heart of washington state apple orchard lands, building a massively, dense, intensive educational commercial project, rusticness, design constraint, make all tools, tools to make tools, melting down old cars, human powered, they were one of the first and most highly respected, wasn’t hippie commune, very studious, technical, published technical manual, subscribers to periodical, whether they purchased wares or we students, subscribe to catalog, kind of like micro version of mother earth news

department of making you said, interviewed mom, years ago, maybe now the time, one of those things you never know when it’s appropriate, get people on podcast, get perspectives, state of world, might be our last conversation, could go for anybody, did great interview with mom about 10 years ago, transapocalyptic, utopian for her, fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree

hard dharma, karmic seeds of melt down of family, trauma, wasted years, trouble, lot of years to get on the course that fell apart

a lot of people, children of the hippies

there’s something magical about the fact that here we are kind of at the age our parents were, as a generation, hippie, back to the land 2.0, we had woodstock,the rainbow gathering spawned from that, what are children of hippie’s doing now, actually fulfilling some of those dreams

we have now psychedelic shamanism, and not just acid, the electric kool aid test, these people went back to the land, no shamanic oversight, no elders,

even Geoff Lawton jokes, sad joke, comic tragedy, I wonder how many communes failed because they didn’t understand proper solar orientation, they bought land on north facing slopes, gave themselves an uphill battle on steep slopes facing the shadow of the sun, don’t even know why they melted down

permaculture,

we can learn from a lot of those mistakes, well positioned to demonstrate, and proudly display the next generation of the back to the land movement again at a time my mother talked about in the podcast

people went back to the land at the peak of the OPEC oil crisis in early 1970s

it wasn’t 1969 and summer of love, melt down of haight ashbury into tweaker rape culture madness,

they didn’t go directly from peak of 60s to back to the land, survivalist, apocalyptic thing, cities going to evaporate and collapse, economy gonna collapse, have to head to hills and start building a future

but brought in patriarchy, monoculture, only little bits of eastern mysticism

wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for that

now, okay, this is for me the most pure and karmically cleansed and most righteous set of circumstances to do your thing

are you really these eco artisans the whole world should pay attention to, or destined to fail

may not be the last place I ever work on

do world tour of biomes

if you take permaculture design course you want to be like a army ranger, navy seal, eco macguevery, swiss army knife, want to be deployed in every climate

because you know how to do things like harvest snow melt for nursery underground

be a bad ass shit, being a bad ass eco warrior with all this knowledge

do what special forces and green berets, what if all the engineering and money and investing and capital, everything that went into napalm and agent orange, if instead of destroying ecology, all that cultural engineering of warfare, went into actually creating a more resilient opposition through permaculture

tactical permaculture, make it impossible for them to put land mines in territory you want to defend, created thorny trellising, motes, father in military

being a bad ass, be tactical, have a reason to train, not mma, good for them but

wanna have something I love that’s worthy of defending that would keep me in shape just by working it, origins of kung fu and farming

bit of a tirade from me

MM:

I really like how you brought up that the fruit does not fall far from the tree, parents

definitely feel, that’s a thing that goes on in nature, we’re a part of it

we’re carbon copies of these people we call our parents

we emulate them in so many ways, because of the signature for which they gave us, dna

as father was one of most brilliant men I’ve ever met in my life

I would come forward to father with things I’ve learned, he would share how could he thought it was, what it made him think about

prior too, a little apprehensive, most brilliant man, hey check this out, not knowing what kind of feedback, always positive re-enforcement

honoring that we can do as individuals in relationship to our ancestors, that can be very important for mental scape, how we conductor ourselves in our lives

bro, sounds like a spitting image of your dna tree

I would imagine your mother and father had some similar thing for them

fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree

TP: I should shout out thank you to your father, have to name the library after him

lots of bro time to catch up on, and create that space where we can, aya ceremonies, 2 or 3 generations in one ceremony of family members, pretty epic

we’re healing ourselves, healing each other, healing the masculine, and creating a safe and welcoming space for the feminine to be free to be fully expressed

said before no offense, I kinda feel like, well it goes back to waynes world, fully functional babe layer, you can design for the woman in you, and the woman you want on you, save 9th form of capital for another episode

not a monastery, not womanizers either, between monastery and rapey womanizer cult, we’re probably somewhere in the middle

we need our other ethical brothers to step up, we have some healing to do in our tribe of permaculture, takes a lot of those talks about our fathers and what they did and didn’t teach us

so, that conversation is an open forum, its fun to shoot guns and practice your kicks and punches, equally important to break down and let yourself be, pummelled and tenderized by letting go of trauma, letting brother hood energy find those deep wounds and fractures, more energy buried we could be apply to our tree parenthood, soil parenthood, aquaculture parenthood, seed parenthood

MM:

along those lines of the multigenerations of lineage through psychedelic experience, its always bewildered me, with my psychedelic experiences with mushrooms, everytime I sense my grandfather,at first really weird thing, now a presence I’m aware of, hear and feel mutterings, only knew for short period of my life

at this point it’s very interesting, grandfather said, you’re back, maybe I’m back, it’s nice to be with you

thanks for helping to perpetuate my father,

what can I do for us

great thing

TP: it’s like working for a company, at office chair, every once in a while the owner comes in, the day the owner comes in, checking it out, what’s your name, trippy, ancestor worship is a thing

use it or lose it

I feel in this life, pretty damn abandoned by ancestors, been torn asunder to depths of hell such that ancestors have been blocked off by dark armies of hell, demons, but we’re gonna compost the shit out of them, find that the spirit guides were always there, they were just blocked, we didn’t make it easy for them to get back to us

of all the times I’ve felt I don’t know if I belong here, don’t know what I should be doing here, try to destroy ego, never lasts, very few times and place where I feel there is pure righteousness

liberate this land from all the plastic, multigenerational journey

dance with past and future, toxic gick, pure nature, spirits definitely guiding us

applauding efforts, works cut out for you, each one teach one, clean it up, scale it out

microcosm of what has to be done for the whole planet, on every planet

MM: not controlled by forces that think they’re higher

TP: decentralized, mycopathic, path of mycology

talk about martial arts, personal development, brother hood, men’s group experience that we’re working on and developing synthesis of spiritual, self defense, fitness through working the land, grace of being connected to your yin, notion of not just another wet noodle retreat center, traipsing around in loosest clothing, look at me I look like I just jumped out of a Rambo set, and yet I’m spiritual, dancing, smelling flowers, appreciating all the rainbows, but I can also do some ninja rolls, lift some heavy shit, drag some shit around, and do what’s gotta be done, ideal of a shaolin temple, double dragon fruit

playing up this idea, thinking about, if I was a kid, in the peak of my GI Joe fan boyness I would love to be shooting airsoft guns, tactical training with seed shot pellets, was nature boy, played in nature

how much fun families can be having, applying energy going into videos or going into being a boxer, mma fighter

masculine energy, protection, defense, epic garden project, for masculine energy to balance itself and exhaust itself, place for healthy catharsis, healthy relationships, families, we can both speak to

will be legacy to leave behind, a martial, permaculture, ecological, new martial culture as well, no surprise, or coincidence that we both, been blessed by profound journey’s into what other brutish me respect, not just purple breathers, also to some degree bad asses

love to hear you talk about, the spirit of the dragon fruit that animates you and your kung fu gardening techniques

MM:

made reference to that hippie thing, an elder at one of the rainbow gatherings I was sitting with , great acronym, term hippie, happy intelligent person, pursuing infinite excellence

never my thinking when it came to hippies, people that smelled bad, sat around got high and kept sitting around

just talking isn’t accomplishing,

pursuing infinite excellence, taking it to another level, punk rock perspective

you are a hippie, you smell like scum, I’m your worst enemy, a middle class street punk

and I always resonated with that, really nice to get that different perspective of what hippie could be

greater mobility in body, sought out chi gong master, chinese yoga for lack of better terms

not just stretching

entire philosophy, after about a year of training, sifu said, training is great, very yin, balance out with kung fu, more yang,

open to this, cool

always wanted, wanted to have military training for various reasons it wasn’t something that happened, along same line of hippie

kung fu, nearly synonymous, life mastery

mastering whatever life is for me, to me

level of giving back that comes from all of that

began training kung fu

4-5 days a week sometimes 2 sessions a day, my body started to really get in tune with motions, weapons training, when we think back to the shaolin, where kung fu started

these were farmers, weapons were their farm tools, really started to come through as my body got accustomed to movements, started using these implements in the farm, body now knew how to use them in a more appropriate way

ergonomics

rake or hoe, swing it out with arms, shoulders, and back, or put it out there and move hips back and forth, all power in your hips

spirals up through feet, hips, outward

utilizing that technique with farm tools

new relationship with tools and how to work with land and my body, all in same go

weeding, clearing debris, chopping things down, practicing kung fu

martial arts/life mastery

mastering far more of my body, tools, and tools that work with land

symbiosis, something that we can all benefit to apply in our lives, in any way shape or form

not everybody’s gonna go be a farmer

maybe you’re pushing a vacuum

you can cause strain or you can no cause strain to body, which then causes strain or not on the body, perpetuates through spirit

something that I’m still evolving into I feel like but its very empowering

self reliance

being able to provide for yourself, doesn’t just mean growing food, having land, also means self defense

never know where you’re gonna find yourself

bring those things into all of those life practices, another science that fills one of those holes in that permaculture raft we get pushed out into the water

brings it all back around, self feeding, self perpetuating

mentally physically and spiritually

TP:

brings us full circle

pleasant meanderings, through path of this convo, summary of most of our various contexts, working or grubbin on fruit, whatever it is, comings and goings, as we’ve been carving out this niche for ourselves

always reminds me of the movie that got me first enchanted with martial arts, van damme, blood sport

here we are, tactical permaculture moment going back to deepest roots of romance with nature and martial arts

ninjitsu master, frank dux, he was talking to parents, european parents of young frank dux, depicted to be wine farmers, vineyard, meeting of parents

train with japanese ninjitsu master

frank told me you grow vines, boys like vines need training, martial science brings mind, body, spirit together

we’re fulfilling that prophesy

we’re dudes,

point about military, I mentioned this not too long ago, in jest, valid point

hey america, if you would have given me a real war, or real cause to fight for, I would have served on the front lines, it’s been nothing but bullshit, you don’t get to have this body/mind

don’t give traumatic brain injury, lead poisoning, blow my limbs off, make me unable to sustain a relationship, cut my VA benefits for using cannabis

you don’t get any of that shit, not in this lifetime, maybe that could change, who knows what battles will need to be fought

the joke I made, we’re not we’re not less of bad asses that we didn’t get military training, we’re actually more, if we can be, without having the training of those instructors, and we can train our damn selves, read same manuals, same marksmanship, survival training, mindset of discipline, selection

break you down

I was my own drill segerant, life circumstances carved my ass from cookie dough to wood

health, wellness, survival, comes from putting skin in the game

better to have warrior in garden than gardener in war,

debilitating malformed meme of utopian pacifism

idea that we all need to be genderless, a mush of micro trauma egg shell walking, I’m a man, I embrace that, I don’t need impose, I embrace and love and support cherish diversity, space for everyone

phrase, vin armani brought to attention:

seed conversations of what I’d like to call and have been implementing

permaculture training experience for tactically minded, some of the best training, with hardcore lesbian women, guns and ammo, blades, bows and arrows plaster their walls instead of boy band posters, those are my best friends

ongoing thing that, I want to be the guy that the butch warrior lesbians like to play with on a full moon when they feel like, interesting romance, another story

have to cover my ass and say it’s not hyper masculine, toxic masculine militia

who wants to be securing the perimeter, that’s what we need first, can’t have whole tribe or family unless we can defend them

call to action, strong willed, strong minded, disciplined, people who want to be bangin sticks as they say in pekiti tirsia kali training, continual life long conditioning and training, being a warrior , really mean something for good cause

quote: michael hopf, those who remain,

hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times,

put that in your pipe and smoke it

enough from me

over and out, roger

thank you again

MM: honor brother, insightful, exciting having this conversation, whoever you are out there listening, hope you were able to glean something from it

summary, I feel like, initially I’d stated how going back to permaculture, can be applied to anything that you do, require taking a permaculture design course with instructor you’d like to learn from, and personality types are thing

I have studied a lot of things in my short time here, does always come back to the principles of permaculture

when I educate others on health, they don’t know it but they’re getting a quick permaculture design course for the body

utilizing all these principles around the landscape we call our bodies

a bunch of cells living together

body, gardening cells, out there gardening soil conditions to provide foods for our cells to utilize

its one of the most valuable trainings that I’ve ever had in my life,

people that also take these course, share similar sentiment

that’s about it

end this with as mc mycopath

end a lot of health lectures with a rap, haven’t done this one in a while, see how it goes

TP: gotta get that out in the drum circle, put some beats on that, hippie drum beats on that

more to come

this conversation is to be continued, next, while we’re still tying up lose ends, give audio tour of integrated systems and logic of design of systems, address

situational report, what we’ve got going what we need help with, if people have time or resources or expertise, what’s been established what’s being established, hearing a bit about what we’re processing, actual road map of what we’re doing, laid out the backstory

of what could be an epic opportunity for ourselves

all sliding scales of wealth, we’re providing

free offerings online, all kinds of content, you’ll be whippin up a podcast, holding the camera for each other to do a lot of the teaching we want to

following up with some a/v content

be comin at cha again soon

big love to you and to all the forces seen and unseen that made it possible to be at this point

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Seeding the Transapocalyptic Cypherpunk Cryptopia with Vin Armani TPP275

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In this episode I’m joined by Vin Armani for another epic dialog about the transformative intersections of bitcoin, crypto-anarchy, crypto-savagery, state craft, ecology, permaculture, shamanism, futurism, and much more

Please visit Vin’s website at https://vinarmani.com/

About Vin:

Vin Armani is a philosopher, serial tech entrepreneur, and CryptoSavage. He is the host of The Vin Armani Show on Activist Post. In addition to being an author and speaker, he has made his living as a television star, film producer, high-end male escort, software developer, art gallerist, pirate radio station operator, DJ, music producer, and motorcycle courier. He studied Philosophy at Howard University.

My Non Verbatim Show Notes

been preparing for a long time

very weird experience

conspiracy theorists, broader understanding of the shift to come

people’s who’s eyes have been open for more than half a century

orwell, we’re in an orwellian moment, 1984 was a prophecy

wrote in 1948, doesn’t mention year in the book, publisher, 1984

4 years ago, youtube, playlists, series called ascendent project, 2016

right before vin armani show

thesis of presentation, 8 hours

announcement that the shift is here, way I believe, what will look like, based upon, teaching of the human social cycle, from Indian guru, Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar

Ananda Marga

book series, spoken word, transcribed

work that affected me profoundly, got a hold of from adherents from group

progressive utilization theory

described, the human social cycle

the indian caste system, 4 varnas

vaisya

brahmin

ksatriya

sudra

description of energies within human cycle, influence world in different way every human has energies moving through, dominant in a person, in eras

eras move in a cycle from peasant, to warrior, rises as chief, utilize will and strength as hero, becomes a king

eternal game of paper scissor rock

thinker energy dominates the king, church, priests, dominant

corruption of church comes through money

large cycles through history

within those cycles small cycles

within each of us have cycles

ideas moved into the west

notice, that’s the same 4 energies of the tarot, suits of the tarot, club, sword, chalice, cup, pentacle, coin

cards, clubs, spades, hearts blood of christ, diamond, instead of coin

what he had presented was idea that we had moved through the commoner time, thinker time, through warrior time, the great kings, through the thinker time, enlightenment, into his time writing in 70s emergence of vaisya age corporations, banks, beasts,

the corpus christi, the body of christ being the church, thinker time, corporation, legal persons corporate entities, banks, vaisya age

bitcion, crypto currency, vegas, solidified vaisya coming to full throat, it was going to tip over the top from golden age to corrupt age, coming very soon

what emerges from out of that on the wheel, starts over, grand reset back to sudra, commoner, state of nature, little specialization, little centralization, decentralized, generalized

daniel quinn, ishmael books, fantastic, 100% survival value, ancestors 12 year old, indigenous society, could drop in middle of environment and they would survival, had all skills of entire culture, male or female, hunt fish, build home, start a fire, make clothes, herbs, poison

sings weather would change

all these things they knew before adult

very decentralized,

from self sufficiency to efficiency

path, escathon, crescendo, time is speeding up terrence mckenna

end moment

all of the signs, its a virus

everyone has become the enemy, invisible, everyone is enemy

goes to say it is the vaisya energy recognizing the rise of sudra energy being very scared

wondered, 20 years ago discovered this thought, working with it, through this time, what does that look like, 2000 I see we’re in vaisya age, corporate, banking business age, what does it look like, before bitcoin,

what does that even look like, communism, socialism, what does it even look like that it would fracture back down into decentralized commoner, 100% survival value

kernal of new rebirth of age, bitcoin is a harbinger, one of many tools, cryptography, incredible useful, self sufficiency in general

more people, not agriculture by nature, figuring out how to be self sufficient, protein produce, energy, electricity

been called preppers, out there conspiracy theorist, already shutting off food supply shutting off money, choice people dwindle

those who have figured out how to fully imbrace the sudra nature, will rise

old nature in decline, new era on it’s way up

TP: meek shall inherit the earth

VA: wheel turning at any given time what is rising is always the meek

in sudra age, hero rising is the meek, hero isn’t the king, it’s the audacious boy

at the time of the kings, when king fully risen the advisor, the priest the thinker is not the prime minister he’s a boy who interprets dream whose in cell

pharoah relied on boy, that’s the meek

time of kings, napoleonic wars, can’t feed army, can’t get right kind of gold coins, london, looking for solutions, smuggler of gold times, rothchild family, get right coins, meek businessman, grey market, smuggling gold, credit schemes, a hustler, reach out to him

the meek the inherit the earth, now is the time for that again

TP: inner geek, crypto math computer science, geek will inherit the earth

VA: look at the archetype of the geek within the vaisya let’s say aesthetic, love vegas, complete shut down vaisya aesthetic, giant companies all about literally money, play with those cards, gold, hotels, nothing but money and the love of money, as opposed to silicon valley, holding all power, multibillionaires running companies, zuckerberg, wearing what he wears, they wouldn’t let him in a club in a vegas, wouldn’t let him in, bezos same thing, old pictures of bezos, those guys are the cross over of the really the vaisya creating sudra products, rise of social media, rise of twitter

hash tag movements, metoo, emergence of sudra, hieararchy flattening platforms , twitter account doesn’t have more features than prez, same app, same with facebook flattens hiearchy, emergence of decentralized consensus based organizational

hash tags started taking down the most powerful men in the world

what is a hashtag, it doesn’t even exist

exists purely as a psychological concept

not even like that hash tag is an option within twitter or facebook itself

TP: viral videos, age of virus, hashtag, snippet of genetic dna, replicates in cell of human mind, replicates through internet, just characters, abstracted, don’t have eyes, don’tknow what they’re doing, regenerating with retweets, as above so below, cyberdelic mind fuck

VA: in age of virus, of course it’s a virus how could it not be, network based organization versus hierarchy

interview wtth chris derose, block chain as a matriarchy and role of messiahs, emergence of network, spreading, the new power, to understand how power is organized have to understand the network

what we see going on with response to the corona virus, hiearchy, dealing very poorly with a network based crisis, virus has no hierarchy

TP: just packets

VA: bitcoin network gossip network, viral network, one to many, R naught, signed transaction, propagates to network, epidemological map, transaction copying self into mem pool,

TP: 8% of human dna, residual viral remants,

VA: blockchain is organic model

TP: do you trip on mycellial functionality of the way, don’t know what the science is, fungal hyphea connecting topsoil, trees on either coast send text message through ground

VA: networked, organic movement, organism, hierarchy can’t fight the mechanism, can’t fight organism, not equipped to do it, we developed hierarchy to fight against nature, turns you into one big organism, its very crude, might say, taken to their extreme, what you see in tyranny that is now with us, officially, organism trying to stay alive, imposes even more rigid order, things gotten a little too loose, out of control, desire to track everything, record eveything ultimate order, as opposed to the bitcoin idea of a system being robust in its unordered simplicity, just a system of rules, not working towards any particular end except to keep system going, traditional, sustainable, organic ethos of ancestors, the idea of cultures society, life in general, simply to continue it on to the next generation, not thinking there was some grand purpose

TP: multigenerational, tree stewardship, fabric of culture, indigenous wisdom, terrence mckenna, enter the violet doorway at the end of time, we will be street smart in the ways of demonic materialism and returned home to the family farm in eden, that would be that refreshing, resetting of that grand cycle

VA: got goosebumps, not heard exact quote, love it, beautiful, probably freestyled, so beautiful, god, command of english language, spin poetry almost make you cry, that’s was interesting because one of the insights that drove me to do ascendent project, looking at chapter 3 genesis, serpent, temptation, fall, the birth of sudra age, return to the garden

goosebumps, yeah, return to garden, figuratively and litterally, so interesting, though it was poignant, governer of michigan, prevented walmart from selling seeds

roped off, full racks of seeds roped off with caution tape

non essential items all garden supplies seeds, literally there, the people who are getting photos and videos that’s crazy I can’t be these seeds, saw this starting to happen, I’ve moved family, not ready to dox self, remote island, pretty self sufficient, probably making public in the future where exactly I am, place I see as a return to the garden, but with that same street smartness, it’s not about throwing out technology, dipping out, off grid, why would you give up the wisdom of your ancestors over the past hundreds of years, why give up grid idea, interconnectedness

bitcoin, idea is not to disconnect, idea is to connect peer to peer minus the intermediary, it’s the intermediary that’s the problem

what’s the problem with the seed sales at walmart, problem is its walmart, guaranteed the person the put the seeds in that package, supply of seeds

but neighbor would sell it to you

TP: you can buy plantable produce from the grocery store, front lines of professional food sector, gardener, step up, minimal interactions I’ve had, if you can’t buy seeds or being gouged for prices, 1/3 or produce can be harvested for its vegetable product and then replanted, beets, onions, garlic, potatoes, eat most of it and still plant it, viablle, propagation, deprived of seeds, plant groceries after eat half or more

VA: this is the return to the garden, this knowledge, in moving to where I’m at, interesting thing, culture here, native culture strong, people who are original people very much in control of politics of island, out in morning, there’s all the people still fishing in traditional ways, 50 feet from house, right on beach 4 fisherman, outrigger canoe launched off beach

corruption of outside world, hand outs, desire of tourism, businesses, to pay these folks, to provide money, as a opposed to them sustaining themselves in they way they had, some wisdom gets lost, situation in now, people lost all that really struggling, guy out there fishing, isn’t even trippin, what crisis

its the finding of the resources that are there, even as you said, your grocery store is a garden store, realizing that, the produce section is a garden store, light years ahead

TP: its all kind circling back to another terrence mckenna prophecy, living in prototype of dream of avatars, virtual reality, shrinking your physical foot print on earth. Letting nature regrow around you foraging in wild abundant nature, get kicks and giggles from interacting on line, not needing to fly all over the place,people are already going to wake up tomorrow and be like we can get kicks and giggles touring museums in 3d virtuality, let the wild animals take over the streets, hoped people would voluntarily participate in live simply, easy way or hard way, easy way too late for that

VA: unfortunately everyones gonna be living simply, economic state of the world has changed, consumerism, waste is done as we know it

TP: party’s over

VA: drastic waste in short term, supplies, milk dumped down drain, fields go fallow supply chains broken, body of consumerism dying, variety will be greatly reduced, millenia generation, ability to be satisfied in digital realm to great degree, gen z, they will be able to really, many very happy to have consumerism go away, simplicity, dystopian futurist, 4 walls ceiling, living in closet doesn’t matter virtual universe, william gibson called consensual hallucenation so vast so satifying, won’t matter that your’e living in a tomb, basicallyi entombed

matrix

TP: what if you take that classic scene of neo unplugging in that pod, instead, unplugs consensual connection, p2p network, pops lid on pod, harvest some greens in his garden in hawaii, utopian, people’s matrix, not marxian, peer to peer nature, crypt enabled

VA: mckenna seeing the eschaton, combining multiple aspects, logical progression of series of different streams, at any given time, streams of consciousness, lifestyles, really streams of consciousness evolve on own, music scene, artistic scene, style of tech, physical pursuit, sport, what it looks like 100 years ago, not what it looks like in the future, subculture, two ideals, the return to the garden, plus the high level of interconnectedness, both to extreme combined into one, not the case initially, thesis and anti-thesis, our generation we’ll get one or the other, access in early going, access to consensual hallucenation, dependent on acquiesance to new world order, living in box, universal basic income, money aspect will go away, it’s a prison, you get fed 3 meals a day, same clothes, same style of home, put into matrix, human experience plays out, old vestiges of voting, virtual sports, status hiearchyies

TP: video game simulation, elon musk what happens if mars comes to us and we’re now astronauts on our own planet, people in bubble costumes, logan’s run concept

bitcoin was the birth of the multiplicity, libra hearings was death of singularity

VA: about right, funny in my book self ownership, last section is on the concept I called the crypto savage

the attempt to merge the old order and new order, will be attempted will fail, that’s what libra was, we can have this thing that’s at scale, out there with an established company, no you can not, interesting, congress people speaking positively about bitcoin, good, tech can grow, they don’t fear it at all, to them it can’t be a threat because it can’t organize in the way they understand organization to be, facebook is organized in a way they understand to be a threat, they understand corporations have power, no coporation for bitcoin, no company, no leader, no ceo no country, no structures they recognize as dangerous, just a network of nodes, passing info, storing info viral network, viruses aren’t threats to them, just saw that play out, don’t understand threat profile of virus, don’t understand how to respond to it in a way they don’t kill themselves in the process

what I say is the other side of eschaton, bitcoin can play a role, matrix version is the thesis, bitcoin is the anti-thesis, synthsis, you get both, mckennas idea, post eschaton, new age, restart

escanton, rame together, big bang, big suprise, post escaton, new material, move or what we’re talking about

indviiduals sustaining themselves off grid by necessity if they don’t they’ll be caught up into the web, very hard life

comparatively, to having everything handed to you, hard life to be self sufficient, in terms of knowledge.

Anti thesis, includes bitcoin cryptography, the resources, ability, the supply chains gone, reestablishing new supply chains, not illegal per se, like in 1984, writing in journal, wasn’t illegal, but if caught death sentence,

TP: earn it act

VA: cryptography is gonna be very different, play in their game, cryptography is out the window, telegram, signal gone relatively soon, cryptography as tool, unless you take away math, never take cryptography of out picture

concepts behind public key cryptography, level of computer science wherewithal, access to computer, computers ubiquitous, pgp, illiptical curve algo, library, released, send message on blockchain, post to address, only person with private key of that address could read it, data, message, write on the blockchain, old crypto tech, just sitting there, never be able to get rid of it

approach to crypto now, same as food, gonna have to learn to do it yourself

knowledge is not that hard, coding skills, pass around tools, libraries, minimal coding skills, if you’re a coders have simple libraries sitting around for cryptography, signatures for messages, for encrypting and decrypting files and messages, decentralized networks, get them up, share them around, get them out there, classes of people training people, offering coding classes, urgency hasn’t been there, picking that up again, waited for a while, people interested thought coding was cool, wanted to get a job in software, never viewed it that way, skill of liberty, knowing how to grow a garden, fix your car, change your oil, place like cuba, no important of new cars, parts hard to come by, artistry of keeping car running 70 years

TP: difference between dude and man, when something breaks at dudes house, calls the man to fix it

VA: love that, just perfect, the sudra era, shortest, commoner era, flatting of hierarchy 100% survival value, shortest because heros emerge quickly, dude and man, man is the hero

TP: give shovels to neighbors, agorism,

VA: just the introduction, new world order doesn’t need to be commanded by evil geniouses, global network of communications, perverse incentives, track you in digital life, know everything about you, extend it into physical world, internet of things you’re a thing, move of taking this technology mapping, digital world on physical world and vis-versa, same old incentives, except physical world is a really a hindrence to the movement of digital world and digital powers that be, they don’t want you to leave cyber space, if you leave digital world you’re not an asset to them

that’s the crypto savage, build new peer to peer digital world running parallet to theres

TP goosebumps moment, post cyberpunk, snipes, stallone, dennis leary as crypto savage, only have cybersex, std plagues, don’t shake hands, social distancing, speak profanity, ticket pops out, but would be a crypto/libra wallet,

VA: demolition man, brave new world, aldous huxley, george orwell, great sci fi, is really a study of human nature, that’s what makes it great, technology is just a idea of logical progression, what do we have now, progress this out, almost always dystopian, everything that moves forward, tech, language, physical tool, organizational structure, always moves towards corruption, sci fi, what does this look like when it’s corrupted, used in worst

TP: Craig Wright trying to patent open source software

VA: reason why that’s important, narrative standpoint, crafting a story, in order for their to be a hero’s journey, role of hero, rebirth from out of corruption, have to show corrupt world, without no reason for hero, sci fi, fantasy, lord of the rings, star wars, the reason why those work well as hero’s stories, not limited in degree of corruption, take corruption to fullest, best enemies, best villains, heros journey, rebirth, story of christ is heros journey, ideal of hero, luke skywalker, froto baggins, neo ,same heroic archetype, arise in world completely corrupt, more corrupt it is more heroic their acts

TP be thankful for enemies, petty tyrants, don’t want b list, medicore actors in your life movie, good villains

VA: virus isn’t villain, virus is one ring to rule them all, who holds narrative, how will they use it, state will use narrative one ring to rule them all, not use opportunity to come together, bring people together, crisis how do humans overcome crisis, we come to gether, that’s how we overcome, super power, put aside old greivances, we have a real crisis, how we think, from movies, astroid is coming, or independence day movies aliens, nations of world put aside differences, actually no, that’s not what the state does, state is divide and conquer, social distancing is exact opposite of coming together to solve a problem

the one ring to rule them all, it’s all about how will you be ruled, peer to peer electronic cash system, disintermediation, come together in the network, come together

mask, can’t communicate, 80% nonverbal, can’t see facial expressions all of these things, this is the escaton, thesis is social distance, separate, divide and conquer,

anti-thesis, decentralized, peer to peer self sufficient, 100% survival value

TP protests, counter protests, astro turfing, new, I’m darkish, left social media, trust no one, trust people you already know

VA: protests are stupid if you’re protesting for them to reopen the economy you’ve already lost, protesting without a mask on, useful idiot, they’re in complete control of narrative, protests, we did a poll, majority of people support social distancing, keeping economy closed, propaganda, everybody supports it, maybe I should

protests, astroturfing aside, legitimate protesters, that’s going to fail, the die is cast momentum already there, going down a path, no question about it, no coming back, only thing you can do is take another path

rebellion is not out in the streets, the rebellion is in your garden

TP: peer to peer, bit torrent, permaculture party pack, 10s of gigs, pirated material, compiled videos, documents, audios, bundled in one torrent, how cuba survived peak oil, microcosm of when ussr collapsed, cut off cuba from fossil fuels, retrofit to organic garden, didn’t have chems coming in, modernish case study in not begging, not being juvenile, not to put down spirit and tradition of assembly and free speech, you can belly ache at the man while you’re tearing up the side walk, tear of the intersection, planted and don’t leave, reclaim the space with the last calories you have

VA: thanks for torrent, downloading it, spreading it, again its a virus, peer to peer many to many this is the other path that’s going to be taken, finding those locations, moved to what I believe is one of such locations, people have to find what calls to them and it will call to you, this came out of nowhere, interesting and notable, it had been in the back of my mind, things ramping up, flights cut off, countries cut off, timeline is sped up, tings reopen, opportunity, got out, literally on last plane to island, before cut off from all inbound, the common wealth, from all inbound and outbound traffic of people, not of cargo, not everybody had opportunity, not predicting and following for years as I have, don’ tneed it, if your’e listening to this, things are gonna open back up, tell everybody righ tnow, they’re going to get shut back down, open up for a little while, laset gasp opportunity last chance for many people to make that move, while things are still shut down, look around put energy in that direction, appropriate thing may come to you, may be stay where you’re at, bugging out m ay not be the thing if your social capital is local

famers markets informal economy, may be smartest thing to stay

allies, not just going cold, working contacts for months, had place to stay, people to show around, established, met within few days, opportunity, when it opens up and shuts down again, when it shuts down again its gonna shut down for a long time, because businesses have failed

second wave, governements getting used to it, allows them to print money

some people, not gonna matter where you are, you can be a valuable asset almost anywhere, community gonna need, underground railroad, taking people out of slavery through making them self sufficient, food knowledge, secondary encrypted network, riding on the internet, small separate encrypted network, invisible, running in this encrypted way through same wires

TP: if time get into the play by play of how inept the government stimulus, I can list off the hackers of world, exploiting stimulus check, insecure, poorliy thought out, every permaculture designer, swiss army knife, adapt to any environment, one of the preppers dilemmas, old school stereotypical doomsday peppers, bullets beans bandaids, no way I’m gonna grow a garden, I don’t want the zombies to see what I have and want to take it, paradox, better make beautiful abundant garden, share with neighbors, infect them with gardening meme, get them gardening have them want to protect you with all of their might because you were in a way responsible for their survival, they are your armor, reason to be a gardening prepper, actually help, like yesterday get these systems established

arms race of open source software, hackers developers, steps ahead of government, every use case for crypto elucidated, brought into the fore, clusterfuck, government that takes from you, doesn’t have any rails to give back in an emergency

VA: hacker writ large, orginal idea of term, permaculture is hacker culture, for sure, pick up artist days, panty hacking, its about hacking of the human psychosexual landscape, platform, machine, whatever you want to call it, the hacker is someone who is a voracious consumer and implementer of knowledge and wisdom, platform agnostic, environment independent, able to create a life for themselves whether in social environment, agricultural enviornment, mineraological,l technological, hacker idea, flattened decentralized generalist idea, non hierarchical, hacker wants to share, a hacker wants a community , more inputs for knowledge, value of being around a permaculture community, conversation we just had, permaculture party pack, told me what network, go on network, pull it, that is what community is about, social distancing powerful tool for tyrants, internactions can never happen

ceo of zapos, deliverying happiness, hiring on culture fit, weather that really works or not, remains to be seen, don’t know zappos has been particularly profitiable, make tony shay billionaire, developing downtown las vegas, collsions, employees within walking distance, apartment buildings, community, collisions, people would randomly run into each other, valuable knowledge skills, businesses or share information, help other businesses, connect people to each other, part of culture down there, the mode that is happening with social distancing, how that ripples second 3rd, 4th, order effects, ripple through culture, demolition man style, people aren’t able to have same economic activity, too scared to shake each others hands, had experience on island, recognized me from tv days, rapport, connection in meeting, everybody where masks, following along, wasn’t until 3rd meeting, 3 days got a chance to shake hands

TP: neo punk rock movement, people who signal their waiver, rebellion of people who say we have enough diy medicine shamans, in our community, neo tribe, rather die on feet than live on our knees, embrace chaos, embrace nature, virological chaos punks, new subculture, stark above ground underground, sci fi, underworld dwellers, social distancing, demerit tickets, deduct your central bank digital currency, above ground, hyper hiegene, culture, trusting big pharma, underground abandoned subways, not gonna come back in that paradigm

VA: a lot of these space, gonna be abandoned, underground will thrive on that carcass, that has been the way that history has moved always

TP: just balkanization of sorts

VA: roman empire, fell, didn’t fall, receded back to east, constantinople, byzantiane, empire survived a long time, until ottomans took, 1200 or something, 1000 years almost that the roman empire continued after what we call the fall of rome, receded, empire fell, but receded, not like everything just died

TP: although they did lose the recipe for concrete for hundreds of years, marveling at relics don’t know how they were built

VA: that’s the return to the garden, that is the story of adam, he’s marveling at the garden that was build by god, he didn’t have the skills to build that, lost from him, when kicked from it

fall of rome, trading all over place, decadent age, falls, recedes, farther outpost england, recedes from there, england falls into time of magic, arthurian lengends, merlin, after romans, with math, science, architure, advance language, finance, fell into magic, history had a break, came into mythological time, in the same way where much of the real world is going to be abandoned, the matrix again, the real world is going to be abandoned, no need for real world, living in virtual world, everything goes into virtual world, people will literally need to live in a closet, going out, going into matrix, virtual world, spending more and more time

TP: virus is acceleration of doom climate change, make the air unbreathable, going back to whole in ozone, shocking news, what does it look like if we burn off the atmosphere, mars comes to earth, living in bubble dome, synthetic, haven’t out of thin air be able to make food, definitely grow meat out of primordial ooze

VA: climate change narrative, don’t go out, seeing that, nature is reclaiming these spaces, people have wanted, this idea is perceived as positive, I don’t think we should see as positive

so the issue is when we put something qualitative on the idea nature is reclaiming these space, allegators in venice canals, air is clean, good thing, its simply quantitative, that’s what nature does, nothing posiitive or negative, if people go away from a place, nature recliams it

it takes incredible amounts of maintance for nature to not reclaim something, shit ton of time for it to look like human being s look there, nature will reclaim it while your’e living there, fight to keep nature out

the climate narrative, taken to logical conclusion its a death cult, kill people in that area, remove people from earth, nature takes back the earth, if people are gonna be there, people are going to behave in a certain way, work more inline with nature

we don’t have to do factory farming, we can do food forest, put human hand into, chosen what we want to grow there, if we didn’t do that nature would have chosen, and she might have chosen something we couldn’t eat, what will the human hand look like in this area, in this space, mental space or space of consciousness, will the human hand be benign and sustainable, or will it be pathological and parasitic

either one can generate vast amounts of resources, strip mining can create vast amounts but they’re gone after a while and they just leave a waste land

group that wants to social distance you, put you in pod, if you were taken from home, placed in jail cell, 6×9 cell for 30 years, nature will have retaken your home, is that a good thing?

The new ethos of this movement if there is to be an ethos, human beings are not bad, its not a death cult, it’s not about removing human beings, human beings have an ability to connect with something higher, or ability to fall to lowest of depths, end up with dystopian future, reach for something hire, beautiful and technological

TP: personal evolution, deep ecologist, misanthrope, permaculture not that there’s too many humans, its the behave of the humans that’s the problem, need everybody alive to participate, repair damage and clean up

to add to that point there is a book, thesis of 1491, part of it, entire amazon rainforest is bi-product of human habitation of landscape that was appropriate, lungs of planet wouldn’t have developed as they have it wasn’t for proto tribal villagers, foraging bands, duing horticulture gardening, bi-product scattering seeds with shit, appropriate shelters, creating conditions for more life

words of Geoff Lawton, most accomplished permaculturalist alive, humans used to be and can still be the most beneficial element in an ecosystem

VA: thesis antithesis, two pathways, human beings will recede from nature, seeing it happen already, last vestiges that were connection to nature, in established paradigm, agriculture, vast tracts of ag land, factory farmed or not, people working that land, are connected to nature, connected in a system that whereby their actions enable, millions, few individuals enable millions to not have any connection to nature, lack of connection to source of food, lack of conneciton to source of food is crux of whole thing, food and water, people don’t have access to that is the crux of everything

symbol of ultimate disconnection of source of food to your food, exact thing that were closed first, restaurant, sit down high end restaurant, vast menu, things from global supply chain, combined into one dish, shut down first, now this is the receding the great receding, recession not in economic terms, receding further away from nature, back into itself

as it recedes its gonna give up space, and we need to be filling that space

TP: timing of ai and robotics, we though big ag, chem ag bad enough, now people aren’t even gonna be in the fields to make the ethical decision of whether they’re gonna poison it

virus scortched earth, keeps mutating, recombining, different flue seaons, who’s gonna roll out the smart farm bots, almost there, dystopian, yin/yang, we have the tool kits to return to garden of eden, also have perfect storm to technologically tyranize, I don’t know if its a fair fight, the only thing that levels it is the crypto savage, permaculture farmer can’t win in a fist fight with robots and drones and surveilence capitalism, but crypto, ninjitsu of cryptography

vin armani show, invest in the revolution and get rich doing it, that’s what I finally stopped being a no-coiner

VA: bitcoin mind blowing, new book, needed for this happening now to get next piece in there, what is at the core of bitcoin outside of price, what is this powerful core idea, how does it allow this peer to peer transfer of value, goes into the food thing, growing your own food from a seed or cutting or seedling, something I’ve done since I was a kid, grew up in house that always had a garden planted many fruit trees when I was a kid, family home of mine, awesome to watch my own children pick and eat apples and oranges and pears from trees that I had planted when I was 12 or 13, eaten off of for years

purist notion of understanding lockian notion of property and value, idea that a natural resource combined with labor creates a good, property can be exchanged, growing own food, you always have extra, people don’t realize the abundance of well tended garden, or of a fruit tree that’s a mature fruit tree, apple tree probably 25 years old, rediculous, having existed, there is more wild life now, don’t ever remember squirrles in that neighborhood, recent years, tons of opposoms, lizards, because of damn fruit trees, something for them to eat, I never saw a squrril, growing up in this particular neighborhood, thank god the squirrles were there cause we couldnt’ eat all the apples, oranges, lemons, pears, avocados, given them away, constantly been a garden, constantly been fruit trees, value

bitcoin is leveraging that, aspect of cryptography, really the hashing functions, signature algo, proof, math for proof that something happened, incredible concept, something I can feel absolutely assured that a very very specific act happened in a very specific way, person saying they did is the person who did it, pretty phenomenal, build system around it to transfer value, any kind of value, assign value to things in the world, receding into a virtual world, proof is almost unnecessary, programmer can make anything pop on screen

probably half people test positive for antibodies, mortality rate incredibly low, living in a post proof world, people don’t demand proof, proof is no longer necessary, would of fake news, world of propaganda, 1984

bitcoin, so important, that proof, that ability to use this technique to prove something, anything, proof of work, labor, proof that labor happened, labor is what creates property

that’s the crux of value, that’s recardos labor theory of value, not marx, all value in marketplace is derived from labor

you can’t sell me an apple if you haven’t planted the tree, picked, bought it, exchanged it brought it, there was labor involved somehow

proof of work proves that labor took place, you can build an economy

not money printer goes brrrr, economic system based on a hustle, relatively smart gold hustler, the hustle is falling apart, bitcoin is a gift, proof of work is gift from universe

speculation was a blip, way to ahead of its time in that regard, but now, exchange for food that you grew, outside of this new web panopticon that’s coming, the value is immeasurable, we can build a whole new world with this

TP: invoke this permaculture mycellium, networks, peer to peer, network effects, discoveries, I like the phrase math isn’t invented, its discovered, its nature, Jimmy song said something like that

I want to throw out there, my final thoughts for those listening if you download the permaculture party pack, 72 hour official permaculture design course, bill mollison, geoff lawton, get torrent go through course, youd’ have same qualitification as any other certified designer, you’ll have done the most canonical training

holy grail, crown jewel of systems, chinampas, island water gardening, engineered, most productive landscape engineering design, constructed wetlands that grow crops in islands, into a lake original mexico city, grind pattern out into lake, canoe into gardens, instead of sidewalks and streets, subirrigating crops, drought proof, any climate, super dense polyculture, aquaculture, and dry farm plants, I’m working on now,

another thing, tromp, very few in the world, cant’ say exact history, way to create infinite free energy, harnessing energy created by falling water, water fall, can’t efficiently create cap on the break, air bubbles, energy events, difficult to put turbine on top of that, but if put water stream flow, drops underground, engineered cave, going down pipes, giant metal bell, to capture that vibrating energy, gas exchange where waters breaking, nature process, compression of air, gives infinite compressed air used to power vehicles, turbine to generate electricity, transapocalyptic bitcoin mining operation, restoring watersheds, greening deserts, beyond solar, harvesting wasting energy, less materials, more sustainable to have bitcoin mining reward to innovate green technology

bitcoin is basically digesting the crudeness and foolishness of this hustler scam that you’re talking about, metamorphize and spit out potentially the most elegant ecological oragami of energy, incentive that pushes us in that direction, most transapocalypitc, techno utopian, forward thinking crypto thesis, tromp, pdc, worth checking out

take us back to family farm in eden

VA: that’s a beautiful view, also believed the mechanism of proof of work, incentive is most efficient and sustainable form of energy possible, utilizing nature, free and natural resources given by nature in place, where proof of work is fated and destined to go, things to move forward on, bitcoin, multigeneration project, changes we’re talking about, happening quickly, but what we’re seeing now is the birth/death singularity, of actual cross over time, while that doesn’t happen in an instant, birth/dying process, death and dying process can be very extended for some people or it can be instant, birth is a probably a lot better, window of labor and birth, piece after, before the child is nursing and resting, still precarious time, we’re in the midst of that, right now we’re in labor pains, happening fast, level of intensity, happening to entire human family, to entire species, something we couldn’t have imagined, many of us knew clearly it was coming, this shift, opportunity is amazing

somewhere in our dna we knew that this was coming, same way mother knows child is coming, we’ve been pregnant with this change as a species, scary time, child coming can be still born, mother can also die, that’s not the case here per say, I don’t think this is a false start, communist revolution might have been false start, clearly was still born, 70 year period, it never really got its legs, fighting for life, but this is real, both mother and child are gonna live through this one, but always two children are born, right hand path left hand path, yin/yang, duality, multi generational project, don’t expect to see final outcome, incredibly interesting times, we have the tools on both sides, opportunity to make a choice, few generations to have the ability to make a choice

matrix, cypher, wants to get put back in matrix because he’s miserable in the real world

what you resonate with his how you make your choice, really make the choice in the heart, gonna take a level of bravery, a lot of sacrifice, relatively less sacrifice, nothing you have now that is going to be here 5 years from now, nothing, if ever a time to give it up, now is the time, it’s not continuing through this, birth is being made, new thing is here, make choice which side you want to stand on, hold on it’s gonna be a wild ride

TP: streamlining for flight into hyperspace, terrence line

grow deeper roots in on going conversation, welcome back anytime, sooner than later

how connect:

VA: @vinarmani on twitter, for now that’s good, pulling back a bit, more with vinarmani.com, showcasing platforms, code from go courses back, more of a sustainability tool kit things people can be using, twitter, at vin armani, best place

Urban Permaculture and Post-Pandemic Food Security TPP270

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In this episode I’m joined by a friend where I get on my soap box to answer some of her questions about urban permaculture and post-pandemic food security

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

S: Mom in east la, Paranoid, restless, gardening, getting into tarot, finally posting videos

TP: for a few months been in zombie apocalypse survival retreat bug out location farm stead site

trying to drum up online business, possibly sell of crypto at a loss, I got to a point where I decided I’ll take some calculated risks, maintain best practices for hygiene, physical distances, evolving protocols and procedures minding restrictions, come back to employment that I had, working for permaculture landscaping companies, with certified permaculture designer founders, one of them amazing former hollywood set designer, high end west side clients, beverly hills, santa monica, pacific palisades,

worked a lot in malibu, fancy parts of orange county

we’ve all be so drunk on prosperity, people do landscape yard make over, still kind of ornamental, even if more drought tolerant, still feel like you’d have to be a hippie to grow your own food, or veggie bed is quaint and cute, but I’m not gonna grow an edible jungle

Larry Santoyo, god father of LA permaculture, deep root, going back to the founders, trained a lot of people, paraphrase all these white hippie new age purple breathing wannabes want intergenerational households and back yard food forests, he’s like oh yeah, cross the la river on the east side and that’s the norm

I’m back in la. Swinging pick axes, because people want to grow food

tear up that front lawn, make some room in the parkways

essential services in agricultural sector, contracting ecological design, rain water harvesting, storm water diversion

still see mow and blow landscapers out there, poisoning insects, they’re out there doing their thing

we’re doing some more vital more protected, involving food production and security

interesting because one of last things I said to main employers after I ran to the hills, I love what we do, but I’m taking some time off while this is happening to build up my personal food security in the mountains, honestly I wouldn’t want to risk my life to just be flipping lawns in inedible ornamental landscapes, that’s the hill I want to die on, polishing brass on titantic, but if we’re gonna help people grow food, medicines, harvest rainwater, solar, composting, all the stuff we love to do for ourselves,

hope this supply chain shock, does what happened in cuba, ussr fell, had to be self sufficient over night, organic gardens every where, riding bikes, post peak oil, oil was cut off, crystal ball of the future

what has just happened with corona virus is an acceleration of what’s been predicted about climate change doom sayers

transapocalyptic business plan, help people grow food as licensed contractors

untouchable by gestapo, they gotta eat too, don’t break the hand the feeds you with that baton officer friendly

S: working in the garden composting in, rain catchers, filtering, lot of outdoor projects weren’t even able to get to fully because we were all working full time, perfect moment to spend more time and learn about that, gonna take permaculture certification, know practices more, getting hands dirty, even have fruit trees, is already super prepped to be a little edible jungle

wondering about a lot,

TP:

large percentage of content addressing this reality, feel like this is the time while people are paying attention and have the free time, the real stimulus package should be stimulating your soil, by stimulating it with compost tea, go back to work part time cuz you’re growing half your food

people geeky about permaculture already been doing this stuff for however long, wishing and hoping it would be the easy way not the hard way that their neighbors get on board, this is the hard way but not as bad as being at war,

ancestors were asked to fight the nazis, we’re just being asked to do nothing and stay at home

other people take the risk to feed you, could be a lot worse

S: psychologically damaging regardless, abrupt coercive, that’s how it feels, people really strong mentally, people who are gonna be okay, just wonder about people affected psychologically, gatherings, basic human things we are used to, not measurable, hasn’t been done before

the indefinite part of that, of all of this is what’s most draining

difficulty of it, following rules, not hard to do

TP: feel you on that, heart goes out to younger people, couldn’t imagine when my social circle was everything, now I’m more of a loner, it happens with age

when I was younger it was all about the group mind, clique, high school, punk scene, activist scenes, always hanging out

for me now, that’s not a priority, just want to do me, to be more secure

S: people who are single, recently heart broken, people who are teenagers, already don’t have freedom, now they have to be in abuse household, not in power, not in control of anything, I just wonder, if feel the energy of all that

TP: neighbors see you gardening?

S: people wearing masks, wondering if I should wear mask in my own yard

TP: yeah lead by example, studies are showing larger ranges than 6 feet to spread virus, Dr. Eric Ding take on headlines, on studies coming out, are the best, lot of good press and feedback, constantly myth busting things people use to minimize, rationalize cutting corners, whistling past the graveyard, so new, not one study could really be relied on the gospel truth, it could be disprove, everything is so new, highest level of precautionary principle, most extreme data 6 feet is not adequate, range of days living on surfaces, meters spread from the breath, like the idea of people getting crafty with making designer masks, making lemonade out of lemons

a lot less sickness will be passed around in general if this becomes the new normal, people won’t be so pressured to put on make up, different game of hooking up, gotta get to know someone cuz you can’t see their face

S: thinking about, a few plots of land, totally empty, guerrilla gardening, want to empower people but have to stay away from each other, don’t want to be the only garden on the block, for other people that live in la totally fine to garden on the parkway along the side walk, doesn’t belong to the property owner, belongs to the city

TP: Ron Finley guerrilla gardening civil disobedience, fought the city, made it possible for everyone to grow food in the parkway

S: heard about that, started one in 2017, in an apartment I used to live at, been gardening for a while, you gotta talk to people and let them know otherwise you’ll be the only one gardening, can’t eat everything, it’s good to share, its great, a lot of people don’t know that

home depots closing in some areas, chaining off the seeds, not allowing people to buy seeds, I don’t know, saw some pictures, seeds were off limits

TP: weird stuff in ag industry, I been posting on craigslist for bulk discount produce, millions being dumped, most tragic thing, if I had the infrastructure I’d be collecting it, for composting, and for replanting, garlic, chives, green onions, potatoes, carrots, pineapple, list goes on

grocery store lots can be replanted from the produce section, gives a head start, beets, sweet potatoes, water cress, herbs that are plantable, in soil, intact, a whole garden project out of what’s already still alive at the grocery store, wasting so much, all those people backed up at the food bank, this is farmageddon 2.0, all the people who are trained to know what a transition to a local food security economy we study the history and strategies, just tapping our feet, when do people say we need to stop relying on the globalized just in time supply chain, we need to do edible landscaping

everything in la county civil engineer landscapers, some plants have a purpose, but for the most part, it’s pretty much inappropriate, not native, inedible ornamentals, for shiggles for rich people to look at, public policy nightmare, public edible ecological food forests, hand full of cities in the us, broken free of phobia of public edible landscapes, partnerships, stake holders, designers, you can imagine, of all the community gardens that are out there, plagued by junkies that come and shoot up, racoons, rats, critters, you don’t just get to have this picturesque tidy urban farm that doesn’t attract a lot of other issues, to be rewilding the urban landscape so you have a resilient ecosystem you can forage in, you have to give up some creature comforts, fighting all the animals

dream big, this is the time me and my peeps are gonna try to nudge that paradigm with all the strength we can muster if we can survive ourselves this is a time to show people what they’re missing

S: suggestions for starting gardens? What about where are the seeds

TP: sunset nursery, favorite nursery

there’s a lot of stuff going on in micro and macro economic landscape, try to be a few steps ahead, not as much as the insider trading congress people, didn’t get to in that trade, bet against america and win hard, bankrupting all the poor people

in general being a few steps a head, chaos all these factors, the dollar is being inflated infinite printing money unprecedented levels dilutes, weakens overprinted mighty dollar, value becomes less, economy has to absorb falsehood of unbacked fantasy currency, not gonna be over night that it’s value reduced

bailouts in 2008, other times in history increased supply, history of fiat currencies around the globe in a war, a government has only two options, raise taxes or print more money, printing money is like raising taxes, stealing value from people

bitcoin based on a hard cap, limited fixed supply digital gold, can’t be inflated

unlike dollars

people overspend, go into debt, addicted to spending

that could be a whole series on how all that works, bring people on how can articulate pivotal points better than me

so many things are shut down, businesses activities shut down, less demand

supply and demand in decline because of covid-19, and value of dollar is decreasing

doesn’t just get rebooted by pressing the its okay to go back to work button

geographically isolated economic collapse, not usually whole world

in u.s. buffered by oceans in world war 2

empire the was able to restructure the world, pimp the bombed countries, 3rd and 4th worlds, now everybody’s taking a big hit

on one had, bargain deals of the millennium, people desperate, start dumping assets on market, prices will be driven down, things will be up for grabs

the counterbalance to that, simultaneously scarce items that are in demand will get price gouged, and scalped

raw capitalism

some goods and services are gonna be cheaper than they’ve ever been, then stuff that will be so scarce, people will pay anything for it

for me, be savvy, build a future by having capital in reserve, apply money to long term regenerative ecological assets, food security infrastructure, for local gardening

buy stuff when people are trying to sell

sucks to be pilfering, scavenging salvaging from people in distress, but hey if they’re happy to have whatever they can get for it, you’ll make them happy

that’s why I wanted to go back to work because if everything I want is gonna go on sale, I better have more money to get it

lot of people doing whatever they gotta do, don’t just spend money on whatever, invest as much as possible into regenerative infrastructure, seed stock, live stock

S: think this is gonna effect the price of houses and land

TP: real estate market gonna take a major hit, people can’t even see properties, virtual open houses, real estate industry still moving along but it’s tore up, people can’t move around

the further you get from hipster zones, the cheaper land gets, because of age of farmers in america now, buying opportunities like never before, last couple generations of farm families haven’t been maintaining the farms, gone to cities, to tech jobs, to college, average age of farmer if pretty old,

you could lease land and be a tenant farmer, not responsible for huge hidden cost burdens of owning property

helping them, retrofit to be organic, permaculture, they may have tractors, crops, maybe even a business, if we can take the leap of faith out of overpriced hipster urban zones, go back to land, will have way better options than during the dust bowl, ag industry devastated by ecological disaster, as bad as climate change is we can go back to the land, still have hipster culture online, don’t have to be a shit kicker at local saw dust joint

new movement of back to the landers, forced out of over priced hipster zones, help out aging farmers, bring new energy, could have a whole reboot of american ag sector, organic sustainable, we’ll be all the better for it, healthier happier, next time mega super bug comes around

public health, they didn’t come out and ban sugary products, obesity, diabetes cofactor in deaths from covid

be careful, don’t work to hard, don’t want to end up anywhere near the hospitals, stay healthy avoid the hospital for their sake and yours but get shit done and plant some shit

 

 

 

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Survivalove: Romancing An Emergency Evacuation Drill Part 03 TPP263

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In this episode I share an audio documentary on an evacuation drill with my beloved from 10 years ago

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

Got water, we’ve got food

crates, milk crates to organize things in stack them on top they’re everywhere great for organize things

a tent, great if you have a car bugging out, gives you more things to bring may be useful

thermarest mat, different scales or modules of bugging out, mini kit, bug out bag, bug out vehicle, bug out location, from smallest to largest you’re gonna have a lot of the contents will be the same but more elaborated the more space you have

in your office, people may over look, bug out bag in car all day, if something is obstructing your ability to get home from work, plan to deal with an emergency with family together, get out of your home get somewhere else some how

bug out bag in your car, most people can’t just haul in a giant bug out bag into work and just post that up, so beneath that if you have what they call a mini kit, then a miniaturized set of tools and cordage, anyone can carry a multitool

go to work with regular backpack, small scale first aid, high nutrient energy bars, water bottle, at a bug out location that’s your ultimate survival retreat with a permaculture garden growing itself, on it,

well

mother load of preps out there, but if you scale down into you pocket you should have miniaturized version of that

boy scout hand book, fire and cordage zine, whole point of having all these things, do these drills and use them regularly, not have to dig them out in an emergency

in our fast paced busy lives its hard to set aside time to go and set up drill scenarios and just spend time playing with our toys

endeavor to do that more, if you don’t have the time, at least having it is good so when you need it there, but there’s skills that go along with every piece of equipment, just makes a sharper learning curve

scaling up of equipment, a little bit of cordage on body at all times, to more in bug out bag, to whole roll in car, to spool at a bug out retreat property, build tree forts, do all kinds of stuff

first aid kit, vehicle first aid kit, mini flares, hazard signal, basic tools in the bug out vehicle

duct tape, dust mask, hammer, saw, pliers, pry bar, basic tools, tool box type of things, jumper cables, air compressor, battery starter, bailing wire, oil funnel

not even being a crazy survivalist to roll with tools, it’s common sense

a jack, spare tire

extra dog food

dogs are great for traveling

bring something that would make the dog feel at ease, enough water for dog, or animal companion

training dog friend how to hunt

cats are good but difficult to take traveling

mobile office,

checking air pressure, oil, fluids

keeping a half to ¾ ot gas tank at all times, don’t wait til the gauge is in the red

major congestion in emergency, rolling out of house almost on empty, if you can carry extra fuel safely, if it’s difficult to have reserve fuel, at the very least know you have plenty of gas in the actual tank at all times, emergencies come with short notice

you’ll be stuck, at the risk of being rounded up in some kinda of human zoo, won’t be wild and free

didn’t have budget to show crazy urban meltdown situation, insinuation, with vehicle we weren’t able to get to bug out location, had to leave the vehicle and haul on our backs would we could

scenario is, you have bug out bag at all times in vehicle, at the point where you can’t go further with vehicle, if the streets were clogged, they’re corralling people, decide to go on foot, planned out, have maps, going to retreat into the woods and wait it out, if you’re in your bug out vehicle with your bug out bag, take things out of the bug out vehicle you can pack with you

do a little inventory and swapping of things, get a little more food, a little more water

we’re gonna go set up a stealth camp, near the car, continued access to the bug out vehicle, get a couple days of stuff then go back and replenish supplies, think of it as your little canteen

foraging on the secret wilderness retreat

fennel leaves munching on, fennel seed

nasturtium, eating flowers

always know what you’re eating, do the proper plant identification

legal disclaimer, don’t eat anything unless you know what it is

rule of 3s you can live 3 minutes without air, 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, and 3 months without love, that’s what Ron Hood says

a lot of times people in survival situations just assume that the thing they need to do first is find food, get panicked crazy and desperate thinking they need to find food right away, less circumstance where you’re gonna have limited access to oxygen, what really matters is to know that say you’re stranded somewhere, it could be a desert, it could be high mountain where it’s gonna get cold, could be tropical, you’re gonna get wet, first thing you’d want to do is secure your shelter, 3 hours of exposure to extreme weather conditions could kill you or weaken your immune system, gear/maps could get destroyed, first thing you want to do is build shelter or dig shelter, construct shelter, according to rule of 3s, next you’d have 3 days after building shelter to find water, once secured that, go on to search for food, you can survive on your own reserves for 3 weeks before you’re dead, monks can go astounding periods without foods, depending on how much energy you’re using, hiking out using a lot of energy, lost trying to find way back

main point, you have a good solid 3 weeks if you cover shelter and water, before you’re at the point of desperation of going into universal edibility test

levels of danger eating anything wild, it’s own endogenous biochemical toxins, then the exogenous toxins it can absorb from environment

weeds are scabs of the earth, able to draw out and into themselves high levels of toxins, can be dangerous even if on their own they’re medicinal, it can be a double edge sword

you don’t have to cut corners to eat right away

definitely worth waiting to do it right

hanging out with eucalyptus, not to be ingested but good for anti septic, vapor rub

eating mustard greens

guitar and flute to lift the spirits, playing judas priest, breaking the law

raw natural food part of any beings diet, it’s gotta be competitive with the hottest crack sugar food on the shelf, it’s all doable, all the textures can be made with blender, dehydrator, food processor

hand crank, bicycle powered blenders, old school cider presses, grain grinders, all be refashioned without electricity, human powered stuff

how to start fires, that could be a whole series

this was good for us, this drill, to be able to document in this way is cool, not only serve our purpose of testing, felt really good to do, felt really go know that we really did put a lot of good stuff together, we didn’t pack up the car we could have found out, we really didn’t know what would fit, we had an idea, this was our first drill

got it several gallons of water, tons of food, we did a month or so before that, gone through everything we owned and compartmentalized things in easy bug out

what would we not want to leave that would be sentimental, what would be be screwed if we left, ready to go as ready as possible, very procedural, went down check list of procedures to get things out of certain places

after thought, the way we had that nice blanket laid out on the ground, put everything on there, have a good visual aid to know what you’re taking, what you may be missing, if you had stuff scattered in different areas even if you checked off that you have it

everything we took we laid out on the blanket first, if anything would be left behind it would have to be left on that, easy to check that than the whole house

very cool to have done that and get that experience

again we’re definitely not experts, this was two people who are scared shitless of what it would be like to be trapped in a city when shit it the fan, started process of self educating, equipping, starting to explore well established subculture of survivalism, from diy punk to eco punk , shows, touring so many skill sets and experience similar to modern survivalists

there’s a big gap though between diy anarcho punks are doing that’s survivalistic, between wilderness survival, or ex-military types, a lot to be learned from those folks who are out there, don’t have exact same political philosophies, practical skills and knowledge, hippies too, out in the hills, ex-military, tactical training, army field manuals, tying knots, carry someone injured, build shelter

punks anti technology anti system life style unfortunately lack that hard traditional american sort of roughing it back woods, hick type of skill sets, you have a lot more of that background that I do, I didn’t get to experience in my childhood, but you definitely had more of that experience as a backwoods girl, cave lady, you bring a lot more to me and a lot more experience and background, again just trying to figure this stuff out with not a lot of money, good personal experience here and there

I would just encourage people to get ideas, get fired up to go and start the process, never ending process of preparing for personal , regional, national, global disasters of all kinds

a lot of disaster commonality, if you’re prepared for one thing you’re also prepared for other things

more resilient on many levels, cross applies to anything you encounter

we were intense about doing it every day for months at a time, studying consistently for about a year, this is like our final exam

had lots of teachers, listened to a lot of podcasts, a lot of videos, really took notes, documented went out

we didn’t just have ideas that all of this would be really cool, we actually went out with limited funds, purchased our materials, or diyed our materials, really economical about things but still we really actualized it, that’s really important and really awesome,

part of it was a safety net because me growing up in a safer place, surrounded by a lot of wild areas, then making the adventure of la, what can I do if the city goes down

dad lives in the mountains, hunting and fishing, what are you doing moving to l.a. being very concerned for my well fare

urban environment always under constant threat of being extinct

good way to connect with the earth

deliberate life, tried to be health, smart, efficient, safe, secure, prepared, resilient, self sufficient

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Survivalove: Romancing An Emergency Evacuation Drill Part 02 TPP262

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In this episode I share an audio documentary on an evacuation drill with my beloved from 10 years ago

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

Starting to load the car, water dry food

checking things off the list

really are doing this, the dry food, bullets beans band aids, bag of beans

brown rice, the 5 gallon buckets are most ideal long term food storage units, you can put oxygen absorbers in, keeps critters out, won’t be able to chew their way through it, not as easy as anything in the pantry, isn’t secure

keep your food stuffs very safe from critters, safe from moisture, and actually a company called gamma seal that makes lids with twisting tops

your fingers get chewed up trying to pop off those lids, the standard lids, definitely the optimal food storage units

bagging up electronics in zip lock bags, definitely a smart thing, keep them dry, also to keep wires separated, in emergency don’t want to have to untangle wires from junk drawer

use them to isolate wires

connecting to the internet world, technology

wouldn’t have thought to bring extra battery or generator, using are as generator, being able to still have technology in your life if you have a vehicle

ready to go the moment that shit hits the fan

packing everything, displaying everything we have in here, everything I felt I needed in that bag but the bag was really very small, it’s korean military bag, very small, 3 pouches on side, flap, made from strong canvas

a lot of little things make up my bug out bag, all really important

ongoing inventory of all preps, as I get a pay check I add a couple of things

background on bug out bags, another term for them, important distinction, 72 hour emergency kits, kept in vehicle in the trunk, somewhere safe in a vehicle, main traditional application or concept, if you’re out and about and you need to get from a point of danger to point of safety you can do so on foot with a back strapping pack,

difficult to carry 3 gallons of water, water purification iodine crystals, also knowing about water purification, 3 days would not be practical to pack around, definitely have a means of getting water, you have water bladder, I got collapsible 2 gallon plastic jugs, if you had to set up a camp somewhere, needed to go get water, unfold it, take it back, boil the water, use filtration, purification

going awol, american archetype, doing the walden thing, can’t think of the right classic, going off into the wilderness forever, its not necessarily for that, a lot of overlap, people pack in wilderness survival, magnesium match, water proof matches

hunting gear, fishing gear, first aid kit, anitbiotics, sutcher kits, salts, different things that seemed really necessary, luxury too, to have some of these things

how amazing would that be to be able to have, if you came down with gnarly infection, you had access to an antibiotic

small shovel, 12” dig a hole to use restroom, use it for trapping, use it for collecting water, digging a whole and getting water that way, that drains at the bottom of your whole and tracking with tarp

shovel, since we did this I’ve done more studying, I would fact check everything we’re saying, using shovel to dig yourself a shitter at least 12 inches deep, no where near any water supply, if near stream have to shit dig deep hole far from any water, may want to mark it too, disperse throughout area, don’t just make a giant pit in a camping area, disperse if you can

solar still, a way to get water, a solar still, you dig out a whole, if you create a steam room with sunlight even works when sun’s gone down, mini green house, with plastic sheet, a tarp best is for it to be transparent or translucent

a pot at the bottom of whole, put some greens around your pot, fallen leaves from trees, brush, to kind of release some moisture, collect moisture from top of the tarp, droplets form, water goes down into that, thin piece of tubing

you could suck it out so you don’t have to disturb the tarp

one use of the shovel, also a canvas water bag with plastic lining that you could change in side

little rain poncho, rain gear, dog leash, tarps, warm clothes, wool sweater, long johns, deck of cards for fun, eating utensils, foil, emergency blanket, good for keeping warm, also for sun protection, if you’re lost and you need attention, signal

it looks like there’s pens, two writing pens, one wrapped with fishing line, one wrapped with duct tape, film canisters with fishing weights

pens, to have mini roll of emergency stash of duct tape, applying principle that you have such limited space, you want to cut down on excess objects and weights, make an object multi useful,

to have a pen is so important, because bugging out the idea of bugging out in southern california is really scary, I work on one side of town you work pretty far away, scenario you don’t have access to car or freeway is clogged, a place of meeting, how long do we wait before we move on, is there a second place

idea of letting one another know, I’ve been here, I need you to know that I’ve been here and have moved on, write a note on something, that doesn’t go away

within a survival scenario, something that’s sturdy, and write, I’ve been here, I’ll meet you down the way, having a pen is important

if you wanted to really have fun with it, you can develop different code systems

definitely encrypted numbers, there’s a simple system plus 1 or plus 2 encryption, easy methods as long as everybody in your unit has the key, you’ll know whatever’s written

flourescent tape for wilderness situation, mark you trail

also fishing gear, trapping line, fish weights, fish hooks, knife for fishing, great japanese knife little hook at the knife for gutting fish

lighters, magnesium match, steel wool, matches

steel wool, 4 ought, very fine stuff, its a form of tinder, ignites very well, trying to create friction fire with wood, it’s a hard

you can use a battery, if you connect to battery you can get a spark that will light

light weight transportable instant tinder, ignites really easy will help you get rest of kindling going

tube tent

medical bag, pair of gloves, I work in medical, definitely some latex gloves

gauze, alcohol swabs, antibiotics, ammonia, medical tape, bandages, sutcher kits, ointments, blade, small scalpel, raiser blades, tweasers, pregnancy test

being able to have tampons, not gonna be able to renew them and get them , have to diy it, something that’s useful is a sponge, sterilize it in some boiling water, it will shrink sponge, so find big one, picking out all sand or shell in sea sponge

floss, or really durable string on end of sponge, you can use it internally, if you need to you can take it out and rinse it and let it dry out and re-insert, two or more sponges is kinda handy, cycle them out as they dry, make your own pads, out of all flannels, I’ve seen girls make their own pads and make wings on them and button them around their underwear, do things like that, making them pretty

there are alternatives out there for women for bleeding, I’ve known women who are like whatever I don’t even care, just go to town on bleeding and doing their thing

flow is so light, if you’re really active, you might be hiking a lot, climbing, even if not eating a whole lot of food, period might not be so heavy, those are things you can do that will be in your medical bag also, whole chapter on bugging out

fertilize the garden, recycle nutrients always

also some sentimental stuff, blankets,

a pipe, a flute pipe, pictures, some things for trading, journal their to keep the spirits up and paper, notepads and stuff to log things, draw maps, trails, keep track, or universal edibility test, a million reasons why you’d want to have a solid notebook/journal, could keep you entertained, books

we had books in the vehicle, all pretty practical stuff, if you could afford to have something that would entertain you that would be good too

camera

can opener, head lamp, one of those shaking flash lights, liberty stamps, means of communications, prepaid backup cell phones, phone cards, forever stamps if you circumstances were such that you wanted to send mail, didn’t have money, didn’t want to be seen wanted to be stealth, you have those stamps, regardless of how price goes up, if you have old stamps, it will get bounced, forever stamps, they’re good at that rate

having some of those, having that mindset of what are your redundancies for your communications, something we didn’t mention yet in that notebook, have your contact lists, the idea that if you were to bug out, have 3 destinations, a couple of rally points and three routes to get to those, main idea, if you had to get out of your house and get out of city, state, expect that you don’t want to have one destination, it could fall through, you would want to have at least 3 possible places where you’re post up with self family, family member that lives outside of town or state, or even state park, where there’s water and you could even hunt, bugging out, preps for it, our destinations and routes, did have printed maps, of different routes, and rally points if we were at work, where are we gonna meet if we’re separated and we need to get together in our city before we leave our city, having that documentation, having printed out list of emergency contacts, your own personal medication information, what people to be able to find your emergency contacts, your medical conditions, allergies, careful of how much personal info you have in papers just rolling around with you, if you lose them, potential for identity theft

I would rather have someone steal my identity, take that risk and have documentation I need to be safe if found unconscious or cut off from electricity, computers don’t work, cell phones don’t work, don’t know family members phone numbers, so dependent on speed dialing, voice dialing, going back through the information age, through pencils, big contractors pencil, have to shave it off with a knife, the point is riffing off from forever stamp, so many different ways to back up vital information you’re gonna need, navigation you’re routes, who you’re gonna contact

also had a compass, very important

pepper spray

razor blade, for medical emergencies

matching bags on a lot of things we would go shopping at the surplus store, get two of each, point out things that were unique to mine

machete is the cutting tool of choice if doing anything as far as natural living, low tech gardening to clearing space, its the way to go

a mirror for hygiene and signal mirror

have some sort of mirror, most effective way to signal planes going by, or on ground level from a distance, reflect the sunlight a certain way, clothes pins, for hanging clothes to dry over the fire

handkerchief, good for keeping head cold, dip in water, wrap head or neck, filter large debris out of water, use it to carry or tie things, cover face from dust

dental floss, for sewing, little sewing kits safety pins, rubber bands, fasteners, zip ties, bungee cords, cordage, fishing line, paracord, cup/bowl that can be cooked with, hand wood saw, wire saw, which is great, tiny little strip of jagged wire with two key rings, simple way to cut through wood

there’s a value in having a steel frame pack or pack that has a way to keep the actual mass off of back, airflow, because you can be sweating into the bag, definitely getting clothing wet, dealing with unwanted dampness when it gets colder, create airflow between surface area of pack for long hiking trips

whistle/compass, good for signaling for danger, dealing with bears,

cool concept, a lot of wild animals will tend to want to avoid you rather than confront you if at all possible, most bad situations when you surprise wild animal, they don’t have opportunity to make their own escape, the way to avoid that is to have a bell, or be singing, or clapping, as you’re walking, if you’re scared because you don’t know what’s out there, what helps you lift your spirits, singing or whistling, or jingling, making some musical racket, create sonic buffer zone or shield around you, it alerts animals, they’ll more often than not, clear the way to avoid even being near you

the flute and guitar, not just for campfire, but literally walking through wilderness the more pleasant noise you can make the safer you’ll be

zip lock container, tooth paste, toiletry items, different things

that’s most of our bug out bag, there’s more odds and ends, a lot of stuff in there

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Survivalove: Romancing An Emergency Evacuation Drill Part 01 TPP261

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In this episode I share an audio documentary on an evacuation drill with my beloved from 10 years ago

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

Pea pod, double wide sleeping bag, a way of life

tendency to roll away in the night, kept us very tightly connected, exquisite experience of couple-dom

really bonding experience to sleep in a double wide sleeping bag with one another

warehouse used to live and work out of, not super insulated, swap cooler, no heat, no air, being in that in the middle of the winter was great

my dog, got so much personality, so much love that she wants to offer people, offers companionship, protective, looks docile, but very defensive of me, protective of you, let us know when there were people around that we didn’t want in our personal space, guardian protector

definitely a survival plan should include any type of dog, different breeds that have different…its all training too, extension of your senses so important when facing any danger, beyond our senses as humans, so dulled, untrained, don’t have fine tuning, beyond the bandwidth of our perception

4 legged member of your family, so many different dimensions of safety and security, she’s great to bug out with, learning how to hunt, learning sign language, how to be quiet, make a left on a trail right on a trail, when to be still, for hunting, depending on level of training you give your dog, companion, friend depends on how useful they’ll be to you

jumping on trampoline, japanese style sacred eating table we would cross our legs and that was pretty funny actually, seemed to work pretty well, firm enough to give a nice foundation

good for the spirits to do a little bouncing around, get blood flowing, lymph moving

next we have the diy ramshackled version of the wing chun/jeet kune do wooden dummy, made from a log from a salvage yard, electrical or plumbing pipes, other futuristic post apocalyptic mad max devices, motorcycle helmet, bike tube and stuff, to show self defense training, bugging out

every morning, first thing you’d do is jump on trampoline, work out, do some pull ups, make your breakfast, go jogging around the park

potential for 2012 solar maximum, peak in solar flare activity, the most probably catastrophe that could affect things on national if not global scale

headlines: governments be warned, the grid has a high chance of being crippled for several years

shit hit the fan scenario with maximum scale and impact

evacuation drill depicts what we would do as survival minded folks if we see this and decide we’re getting out of the city

we decided there’s an impending threat, it’s just a drill, experimented with trying to dramatize it, I mainly lack the skills, just being aware that threats exist and apply a logic to what you would do

should I stay or go, survival speak, bug in or bug out

we had to think about it a lot, bugging or out, when is it appropriate, to actually not go to work, or say forget my life I’m going to my bug out space

when is okay to change your whole life on a hunch, it’s a big decision

dry erase board use for lists of stuff we wanted to get

there are different degrees of impact of a SHTF scenario, disaster, crisis, smallest scale, your own personal life, job loss affects just you, everything around you is business as usual, acutely happening in your own life

you should list the threats in your area, southern california, urban rioting, not like people homesteading, people already off the grid

thinking through the threats, what are a few of the major threats that could face us in this area, how long would they eventually last, how long to bug in or bug out, based on this kind analysis

if there’s rioting, we can stay in

potentially still be making money through the internet, if there’s a pandemic, and there’s martial law and there’s rioting, thank god we don’t have to go out and try to buy food and water because we have it stored already, we can bug in safely, a week, 2 weeks, a month, however long

building up supply to have more and more duration, if something’s long term be able to stay

argument for having money saved

what if things are so bad that you won’t still get thrown out

if you don’t have saved money, opposed to credit card debts and living month to month, have the money to pay for your bills have as many months of secure cash, checking or saving so you can stay there, not go to work if you don’t feel safe or comfortable

if you bug out and you do plan to come back, if the threat subsides you’ll still have your home if you’ve saved enough

how american it is, how southern california it is, rioting in los angeles, it did take days, maybe weeks to recooperate, other places may be a really long time, rioting could turn into a war, government vs the people

much different scale for different parts of the world

a lot of places the shit already has hit the fan, it’s post apocalyptic already

came across word, transapocalyptic

the world is in a transapocalyptic state

so many different levels

forecast is the grid is going down, could be anytime, we’re getting out of la

big part of our evolution as lovers is what the hell are we doing in la we should be far far away from danger, living on a permaculture food forest with friends, safe tucked away in the high hills, the dream of escaping the urban jungle, escape from LA Kurt Russel style

notebook, standard protocol, have this in your vehicle as well, check list for what we would do to close the shop, have a list of the things you know you would take, know how to shut off gas, water, turn out lights, unplug things,

already created checklist to close shop

evacuation check list

have a pair of ankle supporting strong, hopefully water resistant or water proof boots in bug out vehicle or bug out bag

can’t march in fancy shoes

gearing up

putting on carabiner clips, hasn’t become the biggest craze, but some day I’m going to claim being the founder of the carabiner clip/shoe lace tethering your stuff

you attached one of these to my notebook, to purse, I could never really attach on to my clothes, used to wear a lot of skirts, dresses, puffy stuff, not a lot of pockets

there it is right when you need it, notebook, wallet

I clipped something onto one of the loops that holds the strap of your purse

cell phones are really slippery, have a tendency to slide out of things, a string, something floss, something strong, be able to clip it, it could save your life

it’s awesome

books and videos, poser shot of entertainment and education media, highlights

milk crate book shelves

psychedelic shamanism, bruce lee’s art of expressing the human body, I turned into a training nerd, you see the results of him in action on screen, made a laboratory of his own body

raw food diet, guerrilla gardening

1200 watt power inverter, got it rigged up to car battery, mainly good for appliances, ive got the 150 watt one, good for laptop and cell phone

use your car as a generator, every vehicle is a generator, not most efficient, fact is if it’s running, you can be charging things, in a bug out/SHTF ability to power different tools, lights, extra fuel, emergency, do most of what you can in a house with running your engine

if power goes out, on your property you still have auxillary power if you consider your vehicle a generator, if you have a power inverter you can go out to your car

filling up little bottle of soap, need to pack hygiene stuff in a bug out bag, if you’re out facing danger, having to hit the road, be out in urban or wild bugging out situation, the need to stay as clean as possible is a really vital need, most of what is gonna get you is gonna be infections, small cuts and scrapes

hospital jammed up, in hiding, whatever it is

first aid kit, extra medicine

anything you need to stay hygienic its gonna be even more important if you don’t’ have a shower, can’t get help if you need it

bucket gardens, I love to garden, I loved to go out and just really had a hard time of not having any type of ground earth, to make compost or garden or just feel beneath my feet, living in la

you came up with this idea, of bucket gardens, tried experiments, pallet gardens, what was the measurements

determined we needed a lot more soil for that to work

bucket gardens were great, deep enough, got a lot of food out of those guys

lots of salad clippings, onions, different types of herbs, lots of parsley basil swiss chard, collard greens, tomatoes

we were very busy and definitely could have perfected it more, totally cool though that the cut and come again, gardening term, eating off of them a couple times a day

whole concept of cut and come again, basically holding back the life cycle of the plant, not let it go to seed, don’t want it to bolt, the leaves start to get bitter, more rigid, end its life cycle at that point, go to seed

always wanting to continue that process, the more you cut it back and eat off of it, the more it will produce

continually working with it, some will keep going for years and surprise you

before I got into growing food, I kind of thought what a waste grow a lot of lettuce for months, eat it once and its gone, but there’s once that keeping growing

stay very well covered with your greens

another thing about buckets, drilling holes in side for green onions and herbs, quarter sized wholes grows so much more biomass

can grow tomatoes upside down

growing in 360 degrees, chaos cross of food coming out of a bucket,

dig that if you’re limited on ground space

if we had a truck we’d take these with us in the truck, we had a car, that was our bug out vehicle limitation

take them and go plant them, put them in good soil, good compost and take care of them, grow and thrive a lot better

citrus harvesting tool, diy

t-shirt cloth sewn around a coat hanger attached to a stick pole

modular kitchen compost sink collector thing

composting in a plastic tote, regular storage bin

with that mulch that the city provides stuff gets cooked down in there pretty fast

does better in larger outdoor pallet set up

turning it pretty regularly, we were responsible with our industrial limitation and our food scraps, we did take it all to the garden in long beach that has an actually pallet based system, using the same mulch able to maintain pretty good health

the real bug out which was when we left the place, it wasn’t a solar storm, definitely a point where we had to move on from the space, all the compost got taken to a real garden, all the buckets found a home there

this is just to document the lifestyle of daily smoothies

sprout jars, huge value to know about and to use, if you think of comparing, most crops as a gardener or farmer, depends, if you could imagine that the average cycle from planting to harvesting is at least 3 months, this is a 3 day turn around from germination to harvesting and eating

while there are vast abundant stockpiles of grains and seeds available, they’re dirt cheap, all you need is water and air, don’t need sunlight

very transapocalyptic, imagine being in a cave, shelter, with water, seeds, beans, grains, nuts, able to grow tons of biomass, ready to eat in a couple days

quinoa, sunflower seeds, fill bottom of jar ¼ deep in 3 days they’re growing out the top

soak over night, tilt, rinse

avoid mold, create air flow

a lot of water, learned our lesson gallon water jugs started to leak

food great 55 gallon drums, glass

these were leaking, this type of plastic is not the healthiest or safest

not good for you, with the budget for this movie we had to get the low grade stuff

if you know there’s a bug in situation, filling the bath tub with water, using that as a trough

on tour read national geographic complete survival guide book, list of other places that you wouldn’t normally think about to get water from, water heater, pipes,

if you had a pool, huge source of water, keep full, anywhere you can be storing water on a regular basis is good

one of the main things, rule is a gallon of water per person for day, minimum, not only drinking water, but to wash hands, sanitation

bug in situation, dont’ have water to flush toilet, what are you gonna do, serious health hazard, imagine a quarantine and you get sicker from staying in your house because you all got hep

cutting up fruits, fruit smoothie in the morning, apple, banana, nut butter, cacao, honey, I like mine sweeter

hemp protein

avoid soy

green smoothie

crust, I’ve been on guerrilla status living in weird circumstances, without refrigeration, adapting to transapocalyptic lifestyle, dry food storage, food prep, super cheap but super high nutrient, trip, developed this human dog food, concept

knowing what the essential ingredients in holistic human diet, make them into pallet about good tasting, flavorful, little dog treats, really good though, right amount of spice

really good stuff, the veggie ones are my favorite, veggie crust and fruit crust, love both of them

my favorite one was the veggie

the red, fruit crust, breakfasty, salty, red or green, both have some base, then the variable is the fresh produce and the spices

spices for breakfast; cacao, carob, cinnamon, you choice of your favorite breakfast fruits, apple banana, berries if you can afford it, the cheapest and easiest way without refrigeration get fruits and vegetables that would last a long time, carrots, apples

dehydrating will keep for a long time

you can use anything idea is to acknowledge every day human being needs to have leafy greens, fresh fruits, keeping it raw, dehydrating, keeping the structure of nutrients

different states of matter same ingredients make a smoothie, or humus, or dried

soupy or water, is kinda like a raw soup motif with the blender

food processor used to make it a sort of dough, make the crust with it, have a dip like a humus, or breakfast meal

from that stage, lay it out on a dehydrator sheets

home made fire cider, garlic, cayenne, lemon juice, apple cider vinegar, ginger