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Sequioa and Ziji

Gay Tantra in Canada and Beyond with Sequoia and Ziji of Men in Touch TPP288


In this episode I have the great honor and pleasure of exploring the diverse and complimentary paths of two gay tantrikas in Canada, and discussing many intersections spirituality and sexuality

About Sequia:

I view life as a school for love.
My life intention is to live in the heart of union…in the eternal oneness of now.
For over 30 years I’ve been sharing with others the practices I find most helpful to get out of the overloaded, busy mind, and connect more with the heart, breath and body, where unity and love live. It’s all about High Level Wellness…in body, heart and soul.

I have a special passion for sharing with other men what I’ve been learning about the deeper dimensions of intimacy, including full-body sensual massage, many practices drawn from Yoga and Tantra, and more recently the profound “Into Me See” of eye-gazing meditation and “We Space.”

Learn more at growinghealthier.com and menintouch.org

About Ziji:

Ziji is a facilitator at Men In Touch, teaching men skills and practices to deepen intimacy and integrate spirituality and sexuality. In addition, he is a tantric bodyworker, yoga instructor (RYT), organizer of the Ignite Festival (ignite-fest.com), and amateur queer scholar. He makes a home in Coast Salish Territory, Vancouver, and spends as much time at the nude beach as possible! Find him at gaymassagevancouver.com

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

TP: why not rainbow tantra

S: vietnam veteran, out of air force 1972, bee line to berkeley

very free very open

discovered, alternative spirituality, blossoming then TM, massage, holistic practices, hatha yoga, beginning to become known, fringey

explore sexuality, tantra, contradicted all the catholic upbringing I had

spirituality/sexuality same energy expressed in different ways

opposite of christian belief

body impediments to spirtuality

intrigued 80s, bay area, aids epidemic, helpful if gay brothers were aware of practices that didn’t involve penetration, fluid exchange, much more about subtle energy,

started workshops, 1987, 33 years

thrilling to watch men discover more layers of intimacy

Z: I’m much younger, about almost 4 decades, grew up in different context, calgary, alberta, suburban, typical suburban conservative culture

turned to spirituality, early 20s, tibetan buddhist

monastery 2 years, nova scotia

separate from sexual life

moved to vancouver, 8 years ago

exploring, alternative things

going to sequia’s workshop, men in touch workshop about massage

attended that workshop, transformative experience, all this stuff I had learned, practice, in that non sexual context of spirituality

unified it with whole other dimension of being, becoming more important to myself

starting to discover power of sexuality

met about 7 years ago, had profound connection

personal, year or so, invited to co-teach

co-facilitating, weekly classes in vancouver, retreats, rural areas, every year festival, last 3 years, annual festival ignite festival, a lot going on, a lot of fun

S: mostly what I came to experience, sexual explorations in bay area, men

level of intimacy felt shallow, getting hard, getting off, didn’t satisfy something in me, seemed like fast food

intuition, past lives, knowingness something more, keen to keep exploring tantra, one workshop, bay area 70s

berkeley guy about my age, joe kramer

same classes, m chia, multi orgasmic man

microcosmit orbit, fascinating, moving energy, both sexual and spiritual

joseph, convo, similar interests, created body electric school, life changing for many people, pioneering, presenting workshop around conscious sexuality

less sexual more meditative and sensual

met wonderful guy in sf, body work as I had been, different kinds of movement classes, yoga for gay men, dance like stuff

doug fraiser, conversation, decided to collaborate, events called light tough retreats for loving me, weekend retreats bay area, near seattle

full body sensual eroticism, more meditative than goal oriented

ziji, been collaborating, delighted where he’s been taking our work, I’m 75, ziji 34, radical direction, just dozen guys at a time, ziji, taking it virtual, planet wide

z: mostly been working with classes retreats, beautiful containers, men go deeply, came across other modality, other container, festival, different experience, more people, usually not one container, people are popping in and out of workshops, different experience, neither better than other

offering ignite festival, last 2 years, in person, vancouver, this year got cancelled, covid, decided to do it virtual

ignite festival, online, unexpectedly all over the world, joining festival,

people from every continent, really quite and amazing experience to have that

always been more local, regional, beautiful experience

inspiration came to us, do offer really truly global festival, partnered with man in berlin, singapore, each taking 1/3 of the world, 24 hour a day festival, people can join in

invite many teachers, plurality, organizing it

invite teachers from body electric, not necessarily around sacred sexuality,

emotional, embodiment practices, etc.

no plans to be doing this kind of thing, silver linings of covid epidemic, new models, new ways of connecting

S: I would say focus of everything we do is exploring for me, many levels of intimacy, men tendency go for groin, pleasure of that so obvious in male body

ziji and I both discovered, emotional communication, meditative presence, loving kindness meditation, self, partner, group setting, level of compassion into intimacy, whole realm rarely considered

realms of intimacy, exploring

TP: great to hear,

both of you familiar with gay tantra, william shindler, one of my favorites, recommend for any seeker of tantric path how well, beyond sexual components, spiritual development components, transliterated for people not versed in hinduism, sanskrit, or yoga

get a sense of what they would be signing themselves up for

interesting point made, astute sanskrit scholar, one of foremost folks to have facts straight, promoting idea, notion, false dichotomy

paraphrase, within divine marriage, channel divine masculine, divine feminine, whatever ratio, share with partner or group

no reason people of same sex can’t feel obliged to consider themselves the complete circuit

no mention of gay in the tantras

temples sculptures, you see female bisexuality in service to men

have you explored or found interesting artwork, statues, classical tantra, guidance for people of diverse sexualities to explore these archetypes, energies in same sex context

S: tantra, oral tradition, guru to disciple, sexual aspects, less overt, less widespread, left handed path, less widely known, haven’t come across much in ancient writings, not scholar

not much written reference, studied with rudy balantime, swami rama, india, background in tantras, rudy bisexual, late 70s, tantra tradition see shiva shakti as symbolic, not literal,

man and woman can embody, so can to men, two women, inner alchemy, not matter what our plumbing, embody, all aspects of gender, express in love making, no matter gender of partner

exercises, meditations, inner marriage, inner shiva/shakti

Z: agree with everything, different dimension, concept of queer erasure in history, so often queer love is seen as counter/dangerous to narrative of normal society, to different degrees in different cultures, my own personal historical knowledge, from western tradition, prechristian cultures, also a lot of cultural differences the way we talk about relationships, queer love relationship would perhaps be quite different

spoken about quite differently , modern readers, may see or understand what is being written,

the story of achelles, partner, long stories about these too, never referred to them as fact they had sex, lovers per se, so often express their love for one another, brotherly love, comrades in arms

kind of like, from a historical perspective, how do we read history, to what degree are we imposing on history

missing from what’s been written, complicated topic

experience of tantras, not much written down, aware at least in tibetan context, guru disciple relationship, incredibly intimate, seldom written down

tibetan contenxt, patriarchal, male teacher, male student, would not be surprised, if using sexual energy as one of transmissions of teaching

homosexuality in tibetan monasteries well documented, not in ancient times, last 100 years, more exposed to the world

definitely happening, question of how do it get spoken about

TP: thank you so much, so well said, maybe somebody has been studying, great project for anybody who’s got researchto

lesbian desire in ancient and modern india, high on my book list, hope that will shed some light on good stuff

it breaks my heart when I hear people say, I want to do tantra but it’s only for straight people

curious about, what is the tantra community scene, millieu like in canada, different laws around sex work, cannabis, maybe other entheogens, a bit of a report on if anything very interesting about cultural climate, setting your in, insight into that life style there

S: started life in us vietnam vet, fell in love with vancouver in late 80s, smitten by city

90, still in love with city as years ago

somewhat more permissive culture

cannabis, tacitly accepted,

laws about sexuality, less enforced

hasn’t been kind of religious fervor that often occurs in us around laws around sexual behavior

erotic massage, began in berekley, felt safe, here feel even safer

appreciate that aspect of our culture here

Z: I would say, also in terms of sex work laws in canada, we’re currently scandanavian model, not illegal to sell sex work, somewhat illegal to market, buy, anything beyond selling is considered illegal

vancouver pd, statements, don’t enforce bilays pertaining to sex work, definitely see it quite differently,

not an idea system, decriminalization, main ideal target, overall

generally find, I feel much more comfortable being here than in america

more pacific northwest, more people from seattle, portland from anywhere in eastern canada, even alberta

can’t speak for rest of canada, some folks doing gay tantra in toronto,

a little bit happening in montreal as well too, it’s happening, it feels like most of the gay tantra work is still happening in other parts of the world

men in touch, also on forefront, canada as whole, doesn’t yet feel like a bastian, so speak of gay tantra

S: moved up from california, quite a bit less advanced around alternate spirituality, new map, tantra, has really changed in last 10 years,

going through facebook, social media,

part of whole west coast culture

southern california

vancouver very much part of that

put down, all the fruits and nuts roll west,

west coast much more progressive, in canada as well as us

TP: good to know

people up there already make some use of that intel, hoping that canada will lead north america in full legalization of sex work, know of efforts to keep rocking that boat,

I was a little bit more excited than I should have been, fine print, not friendly to both sides of transaction, consumer buyer, sex buyer, consumer of erotic services

lobbying, grass roots stuff, ?

S: in general we have to really hand it to the women, women in sex work, activist, most vocal, done the most to even get us this far, continues, women are most severely impacted by sex work laws, urgent crisis and need, safety livelihoods

Z: pushback, people are pushing the govt

if it’s every gonna happen in canada, be with more progressive govt

sex work law is always kinda not most important, not on minds of middle class, most people, base of these parties, unfortunately gets shelved

S: people hassled by police, walking the streets, neighbors call

other than that, when sex work is not in peoples faces who don’t want to see it, police not being proactive to go out and enforce it, different from us, entrapment

TP: fosta/cesta, tantrikas doing body work, whole spectrum everybody posting ads, backpage, craigslist, shut down, witch hunt, the internet policing of marketing on line, light touch, don’t bother you, hang shingle on line, not creating public nuisance, out of side out of mind

Z: have my own website, private practice, gaymassagevancouver.com

pretty obvious what it is I’m offering, not that cloaked, don’t feel afraid about that, more the effect is in, there’s still stigma, in our society around it, for example, would not want my neighbors knowing about the work I do, not illegal, but people can still make life very difficult

tread carefully around, not being public nuisance, not legal perspective, neighbors, land lords, have a lot of power over me as a renter

how much canada can have an effect on us

previous prime minister

decriminalized homosexuality, 1969

test lab for us, more progressive policies, us politicians, hmm looks like it’s working, maybe we’ll try it down here

TP: thanks for sharing, chills, wow, what an epic and brave, want to book up on history of that moment, rare, goes back, that was the magical year, a lot of good stuff happened

curious to what extent, language, tool kit, together, separately, neo tantra, extrapolating from modern gurus lineages, dance with translating teachings to offerings in modern world

adapt, relanguage, gay tantric perspective, notion of helping facilitate kundalini activation, initiation, riding the snake, wild ride of energy

why and how it erupts, orthodoxy around straight, tantric practices, not short cut but juicier way than sitting with hands folded, by yourself

how would you approach it, romance with kundalini shakti vibe

S: close to my heart, introduced to kundalini, Baba Muktananda, guru traveled world several times 70s and 80s

activating people’s kundalini, directly through shaktipat

had taste in that experience about kundalini awakening,

own that this is very phallocentric, perspective, like to view, with other gay men, entire energy body as phallus, penis, let energy build up from pelvis to crown

ejaculation out the crown of the head, fountain flow, energy thighs, genitals, through chakras, caress energy, up the middle, up and out

partners, massage table use that format, take people into new consciousness, kundalini as useful metaphor probably is that be definitely energy does shift, working with that intention, instead of conventional ejaculation

TP: really healing and sweet, people feel like they’re not gonna be missing out, or left out or excluded

heteronormative schematics

really encouraging

Z: my take on that is, just to kind of also balance that out, important to be having energetic experiences, also large portion of our work, different dimension, learning how to deepen intimacy, different quality, not usually as intensely sensory, energetic in that way, much more, other skills we’re trying to encourage, what does it mean to really be with somebody, be energetically kind of connected, recently last couple years, new concept of we space meditation, subtle states of shared consciousness, could include touch, not required

to me, my interest is more like, that feels to me like the real interesting part, one thing to have personal experience within own body, somebody’s massaging you, activating you, energetic release, beautiful experience, fruition of that, gone through kundalini awakening, has to have some sort of effect on us, when we moved the energy that way, can come into deeper states of clarity, stillness, presence,

fruition, communicates beyond just personal experience

TP: awesome, vagina monologues had pansexual tantra meed up in la, kundalini monologues, hopefully will take off some day, great time, different stories, so many, wow, lot of good stuff, definitely some horror stories too

Z: key, how do you create safe container for people to be experiencing these experiences, enough structure, to digest experience, otherwise, profoundly disorienting kind of experience

S: one of the tools learned early on in 70s, tantra workshop, same sex, all male tantra workshop, stan russell, tools used back then, eye contact, breathing together simple

80s, body electric, incorporate a bit of that, never as much as I wanted, eye gazing powerful practice in and of its self

we space meditation, promoting form of meditation

gazing into partners eyes, can be done on zoom

being with partner, holding eye contact, attempting to describe verbally, what’s going on


quite an altered state that that leads to, ziji and I teaching

roots in tantra tradition, nothing to do overtly

connect deeply with romantic partners, total strangers

TP: beautiful thing, ancient practices techniques, occultism, cult of personality

west wants to secularize, messier, problematic, end up with more generalized, less cultural bound experience

adapted things like orgasmic meditation, may have had tantric training, indian gurus, to make it compute average multicultural western mind, strip away mythical archetypes, hindu mythological structures

we’ve salvaged in the west, western neo tantra, kundalini tradition, yoga asanas, general teaching, rarely offered, some experience, always seeking more, mudras, yantras, mantras, fundamental profound primal role, vibrations, sound, bija mantras, activating chakras, so much of that stuff, sometimes is very bound with religious dogma, archetypes, can also be more energetic, an anatomical energetic way of teaching

integrate or have reference upon mantras, mudras, in your offerings

S: tm, mantra based, Baba Muktananda kundalini awakening, om namah shivaya, so hum,

powerful, chanting of them find very transformative,

a little reluctant, people in west, wary, religiousity, hesitant to bring in too much, turn people off, almost always do oming, mantra, om

men in cirlce hug, ah sound, o, m, carry on for a while, quite wonderful, blend them, hear them unify over time


Z: personal background with tantra, not in hindu, tibetan buddhist, a lot of esoteric tantric teachings within

takes quite a bit of, understanding, background structure, communicate, what this tradition is trying to say, very personally rewarding, feels like a lot of pitfalls, possible misunderstandings that can take place, generally speaking I find, my work I really informed by that, not explicitly referring specific deities, mantras, esoteric sadhanas, or whatever

S: creating sacred space, one of ingredients we invite men to join us in, letting go of ordinary chit chat, most contant non verbal, set out of busy urban life for whole weekend, movement touch, conscious breathing, nonordinary state of consciousness, I hope informs the rest of their lives, states of consciousness are available,

TP: definitely so many different schools all over the east, probably all agree on, path of integrating pleasure for spiritual development, does the work of a 1000 mantras, touch, centeredness in moment, sensate focus,

advanced yogis, alluded, quality of attention and focus is what you’re going for, the actual prescribed numbers of repetitions, grading on the curve, lowest common denominators, to make sure they get in the fold

Z: one of last few tibetan teachers, trained in pre chinese, tibet, very revered, visiting monastery, giving teachings, one nugget

two paths to liberation the path of pain and the path of pleasure, most people take the path of pain, just laughed,

we are all about exploring the path of pleasure

TP: that says it all, love that so much

so great so fun to have round table on this, invite you back anytime, more deeply, promote, things available, to broader community world wide through internet, good to promote that stuff, shout out, for website

Z: main website, menintouch.org, ignite festival, ignite-fest.com, each have own private practice, gaymassagevancouver.com, sequia, growthinghealthier.com

The How and Why of Semen Retention with Courtney Garner TPP104


Courtney Garner PicIn this episode I’m joined by Courtney Garner, she’s a certified tantrika with training in the Tibetan 5 Element Healing  system taught by one of my heroines and previous podcast guests Devi Ward. She shares her story of transcendence from an unsatisfactory relationship and talks about her professional integration of East and West, having a background as a nurse practitioner before becoming a sexual and spiritual healer and educator.

She shares some heart warming success stories of working with clients who have been able to radically improve their love, sex, and spiritual lives with her help.

We discuss the how and why of semen retention and get into some edgy territory around female empowerment, spiritual sisterhood, and the ways men will need to “man up” on a new level to catch up with the rapid rate of sexual consciousness evolution among independent women who are claiming their power.

Please visit her website at:

About Courtney:
I’m a fun-loving Practitioner who’s great at laying it out so you get it! Helping clients find practical ways to integrate the practice and make it work, is my priority. I frequently work with men on issues like porn addiction, sexual dysfunction, and disconnection. I’m also a huge meditation advocate, teaching kids and adults the foundation of a spiritual practice.

As a nurse, fitness advocate, and Tibetan 5 Element Healing Practitioner, I have a holistic view of health and an expanded approach to healing. Using my Western medical training and Eastern healing practices, I provide a fresh voice, for ancient practices that give results now. My mission is to support the growth of free minds; free from fear, judgment, pain… I work everyday to change the world, one mind at a time.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township hunt podcast episode number 1 0 4 I’m on Skype with Courtney Gardner who is an authentic Tantra practitioner she studied with Devi Ward who’s been on the country Punk podcast in the past is definitely one of my superhero Inns in the township movement I really recommend checking out all of her YouTube videos and podcasts and yeah really it’s a blessing to to be alive in a time with Davey doing her thing and so it’s exciting to be able to speak with one of her students who completed her training program and is now sent a country practitioner through that live in the age that that baby holds and so also she’s now set up her own brand and business in Southern California which is absolute Entre which you can check out at Absolute township.com and yeah Courtney if you’d be so kind to just tell us a bit about your your past I know that you were a nurse in that you discovered Tantra and now done all these training senior have great offering so please tell us all about it be invited to talk with you and share my path and my practice I started my first one and is leaking filling for me but I always knew that there was something more that I’m used to doing that was in a relationship that was busy and so I wanted to know if you leave from that I was looking online for a punta practice in my area and there wasn’t anybody that was local there really far away is delivered exactly what happened but baby popped out to me and all through the website and whatever I read with you I go to school and so my motivation seems to be getting my package was my relationship and mental freedom from enough stress and just busy mind. Certified it opened up so much more is it just blossoms my spirit I can just drive it or now her being a part of my life and be able to work with her at authentic Tantra that’s just I can ask for anything more let’s do so my practice my practice is I like to call and make sure of Keith Meets West because I’m using a Eastern modality the Tibetan Tantra that is if I don’t practice so that’s actually what that’s what I feel make our practice in our special that made it big packages that have been done for thousands of years and people have been living their lives on the top of thousands of years and getting the results of getting the healing that they need it is parked the Mason he’s so excited yeah we have this so I really appreciate that we have very ancient practices that part of my mission is to make it relatable because when I was going through some of the things I read I was just like what are they mean by that what is awareness those are things that you have to feel you don’t learn them just by reading the definition you have to experience it and that’s for me I had to leave that and go see that kind of struggle that growth growth process so much and I learned a lot of the how how is kind of like the the jewels that I get to give to a friend feel like that is going to help our a world like that’s that’s the big the big sister is really to heal the world we have a lot of pain we have a lot of drama connected with the Smiths on the earth and we need to discuss it feels really good I do it because I love it it’s a feeling and just making a difference in people’s lives oh fransson few days ago I have a client with him so he has to support him in his healing process and part of that is getting a great connection with yourself and awareness of your energy Body and Soul on the 12-week course he says his then he is already experiencing a writing part of my job is to teach people how to have intimacy and how to reconnect because it’s all I need and everything that we need to be if we already are that and is fearful path is the unveiling of whatever so I I really am honored to be honest app because I I have to I live it every day and it’s and it’s awesome that’s wonderful so do you want to talk about more some sort of kind of give us a tour of what you were offering his are currently I have the money for that program is definitely for for them and it will work for anybody that you can if you don’t have the flu and she was just taking care of yourself and your help is vital to your overall house so that is my I have that same thing it’s all about feeling it’s all about Awakening your sexual sensual and it’s and it’s also learning to use your sexual energy to heal your body is there a pop artist when it gets the most energy have to actually is about using that new another page on my website and they’re on selling Nation it comes with everything you need to get started and I also have any pot up a very important part of my creative creativity as part of my feeling a lot of different ones and and a and so I can have another thing that you know you can find out about on my website but that is that’s what I’m doing these days and the other thing if you guys was on the site already have died in that where you should go for the focus program whatever is reasonable or or within your agreements to share I’m curious if you could kind of your people and overview what you would probably have is as an overview and I are in a workshop to introduce people and get them excited about Tibetan Tantra and how it’s more more specific ways does change your life and and how it can help people with therapist functions and all of the other dimensions of transformation at that they can blossom into with it what preventing tonsil with such a two-part special is the five elements healing system and write five elements are everything that we are made out of it’s so pleased that you heal our body through meditation so when I have my workshop but there’s an intro to Tantra for the things that we will go over is the concept of the energy body cuz a lot of people don’t know about it it’s not really talked about in Western science so that’s definitely something that we make sure that we work with that energy body and are negative energy in your body that can be hindering you from pleasure it could be making you feel pain make you feel nice and so what I’m feeling is about is about clearing we are conscious connection and that’s what the goal is right that we are all heading for the big idea the orgasm so what that means is we use that that moment of orgasm if you are practicing in your sleep for more than you know to Second what size 5 Seconds 10 seconds 30 minute people do it for several minutes so just maybe these potential is beyond what we think it is beyond what we can imagine and the practice that we have in place is to exercise to bring it to full fruition that is a what could be a better outcome than extending the pleasure of orgasm as a spiritual practice for a night meant nothing that feels better than that is mental Bliss physical Bliss you’re just clear and happy and everything is great with the world and if you think about how you feel after you have sex this is our just you all the time I can give you all the time to feel that good all the time and that is our potential that we must embrace it’s it’s kind of like we have some kind of guilt around being too happy play no part of arguing is accepting and acknowledging that yeah we have that potential to be happy and be having pleasure all the time and that’s that’s that’s our Birthright so I really I really push that I really tried to educate people and advocating for themselves when it comes to relationships or Army our bodies so that’s definitely part of the message that I was trying to spread awesome thank you will have a similar path also seeking to empower folks to discover their infinite orgasmic potential and there’s there’s a lot of debate and I guess I wouldn’t call it controversy maybe you could call it controversy actually but the the there’s different approaches to the reasons for and the intervals and Adoration of and the techniques for the this ever-elusive yet so simple and practical and and beneficial semen retention lifestyle so that was actually how I discovered your work is that I was I’m signed up to Davies mailing list and I watched a recent video that she had done about that subject we talked about it in the interview I did with her and on the side YouTube your recent video came up and I watched out of Mike right on more voices out there yeah putting in yen in different words so do you want to kind of give a your rap about that why the how to in the benefits and all that good stuff to incentivize people physical practice it’s a thing that you can do for your physical Improvement but it’s also transformative at something that they might not getting that connection with yourself is what project out the other one out that’s when you can approach people with a different energy with a different confidence but if I open this posting retention is it’s a good remedy for not helpful for men with premature ejaculation and erectile dysfunction I’m part of that is because ejaculation is the reason that a lot of men have issues relationship and the other culprit of that would be so you have corn out there it’s everybody’s watching it and you have men masturbating to porn all the time that creeps is very big gap in this connection with their body and also which translates to just their partners and they’re trying to be intimate with them and that just as growing when they continue to do this even if you feel like you are you’re fine you know you’re fine but if you happen to have it someplace where you exactly doing beyond the frequency that your body can recuperate what is that then you are defending yourself and it shows right when you guys are done and that’s all that because you’re you’re discharging your sexuality your energy as well as he Jacqueline which is just packed with nutrients semen is just like you know all the baby better if you think about what is your body going to get all those music from to make more better it gets it from your body until you have your your body is pulling in some other part that just make more semen because it keeps getting you know and why does your body want to do that survival our instincts are so divided and part of that is for creation right yeah it’s a sacrifice so use it wisely use it or lose the nutrients until 6 weeks is on your overall health your current habits your sexual function for men to ejaculate right on yes so I guess I’ll all kind of play if you don’t mind a little bit of role-playing as client you know to give other guys who are may be new to this or or I know you don’t have a lot of people who I know her I’m approaching this as a Jedi Knight initiate and it’s something that they you know they want they want to figure out how to harness the force you know and use their their want of light literally to exactly yes so some of the questions that I get or or just this this unknown Journey having faith that there’s there’s these powers on the other side of the the discipline guys have this preconceived notion that that blue balls is is just a force of nature that can’t be overcome but as you would know that circulating energy and doing breathwork a massage and actually applying some of these principles and practices you you effectively bus that myth you know don’t bust a myth I mean don’t bust a nut by the group Asia is that something that you’ve encountered where we’re guys are like but I’m going to go crazy or I’m going to have blue balls or something out all they’re going to still up and it’s like if you think about it like dude you’re jaculating too frequently for your body to catch up so no you’re not going to fill up a Pop berry likes going to take forever if that wasn’t so yeah so what I called is like the sensation of maybe like a stuck orgasm because it’s so it has nothing to do with your fluid that’s been retained that’s your the energy flow thank you for collated and you can literally believe you ate that you know through breathing breathing in public for exercise so do you want to text me some about that it’s there’s more than just what you might find from sort of Western sexology around doing Kegel exercises there’s actually more there’s more visualization and there’s more meditation there’s more of an esoteric component to it that it’s mystical but it’s also a scientific it is as much as it’s magical mystical experience very methodical and practical so you know this everyday I’m teaching I’m doing the same thing teaching men how to hold back and it gets easier and I’m just wondering if you have some basic pointers for four guys that are interested in the past h&c how long do you want to be happy healthy and having sex is that that relates to everybody no matter what path you on everybody has a general idea that yeah I want to be happy and healthy for a long time so in order to do that you need to maintain your help you need to pay attention to that part of your body needs to feed it love compassion need to exercise it energetically and physically so it’s it’s like guys aren’t they can get obsessed with working out and going to the gym but you are complacent with you know if you’re okay with having the penis that doesn’t work and it makes you feel bad all the time so it’s a six pack of my PC muscles that’s what she want to have it’s more important really but it’s true and that’s what you got to take care of but you can feel it too I mean if you if you know that it’s a big difference you can tell if someone’s doing that work I’m male and female but certainly it’s it’s ya will be great to for there to be Fitness competitions that to measure that level of Fitness for sure this is wonderful that this paradigm shift is is yeah that you know you’re like you said in your approach East-West in East coming together and no pun intended yes I like the the part of our practice that’s so practical and it makes sense to us based on what we what we know you know what are our little fact that we have it makes sense but it also makes sense energetically and we just feel that energy is not fat but not things that you can read it’s all about feeling with intuition and that’s that’s what you have to fight for yourself hey so get another another key Point here at like to get your perspective on this the it’s if you were a man who listens to all the pop music about women wanting to be made love to you all night long and I think Davy word one point I heard her say you know like something like man we want your penises in our vaginas forever there is this Market business mythology around having the sexual powers to last all night but that doesn’t really mean having sex and ejaculating multiple times and being able to start over again although if you’re younger is he younger man that’s it’s easier to do than if you’re you know if an older man but are are are you finding that women or Amir feel like this the potential of Tantra is it a can raise the standard for what women actually pre-qualify dating partners by based on do you have skill or not because why would I waste my time if you can’t if you’re sexually incontinent why would I how do I have a puppy already I don’t need another puppy in the you know so do you want to speak with me Stillwater women saying about this and how are men you know Manning up in words for that one we’re talking about our last vacation retreat how it’s it’s hard it’s difficult for women who are conscious and who want that connection was just want to feel emotionally vulnerable that are open that can talk about their feelings that are in touch with their emotions and it’s hard to find and it’s frustrating sometimes part of my men is more and more loving compassionate emotionally available men for women that’s what we need a r t i feel like women in our place right now in society we are strong we are independent and so we have different needs from a man we can take care of herself financially weekend you know everything for us so we can go to school and take care of her kids so what we are looking for in a man is I need that connection with somebody to make her feel like they’re inside our soul you want us to make love to you to read watch videos and really go after that makes be motivated to do that for yourself because otherwise you’re going to keep doing things at Cabot and that’s making the disconnection even greater right I’m so glad you you put it that way because I consider myself under the radical feminist spectrum of all this stuff and I’ve gone to Great Lengths to try to get perspectives on this podcast where it is really it’s really a critical time for fermented wake up and in and understand exactly everything you’re saying it’s about how in the old Paradigm you could just be a tyrant and an oppressor and just treat a woman has your fuck doll and never even care about what her what’s going on with her and it is just getting off and wham bam thank you ma’am and the political economic shifts that you just laid out very clearly with your lingo but that’s what you want to make love to a woman and like just make love to her fucker great her he can get away with a lot of shit but don’t don’t take that too far gentleman if there was one thing yeah so what it what I hear you saying then is you know figure out this stuff first and you don’t get your everything else can be this is the main deal breaker it sounds like and you can kind of gives a little bit of a patient about certain other things but this is as women are getting more empowered men of God so now you like it’s limited like hey I deserve just as much pleasure out of there just as much orgasms actually I’m getting more than you and like so why should I short myself like why don’t I deserve it and receive any quality in Bruno longer accepting it up otherwise I don’t know now we really this is really exciting because this is I mean I wasn’t going to go there necessarily but since you brought it up feel free to speak about this but I feel that the you know it is a male Tantra practitioner it’s sort of like you become it’s like you I don’t know if I feel like I’ve been trained by the CIA or something and I just can’t relate to people in the general population because if you can blow people’s minds you you better choose wisely because you don’t want to take someone on a journey they’re not ready for a spiritually that they haven’t trained for themselves and so does it’s a totally different Dynamic and I kind of feel like it’s a it’s a there’s a lot of scoundrel males who just take this new power they have and they use it to hypnotize and mine fuck and abused and manipulated and you know now I’m now I’m feeling your daddy issue rolls and just all the stuff so it’s like a black hole Vortec of a real black magic really in and so my strategy and now that you can share it with you and get some feedback from you since you brought up that that key factor that I I’m trying to work on his basically that I’m more interested in having female Seekers get initiated by other females discover their orgasmic potential and to achieve their sexual spiritual enlightenment internally in their solo Tantra practice but being held in the community of Sisterhood so that this so that that sort of priest is class can involve the sexual consciousness of women and then they can have a higher standard and they’re not coming to me as a wounded child and I’m being projected on from all of their issues and then I’m going to be tempted to manipulate that psychological weakness for my own gain and that’s what makes give Tantra a bad name throughout the world is that Dynamic so are you how what I have I’ve been working on my sort of strategy to empower the sexual autonomy of of women in in sort of witch covens if you will and you know I think people are afraid to own up their afraid to but if I had if I had to choose one word to describe Tantra I will call it feminist sexual Witchcraft and if that doesn’t scare somebody away then they’ve come to the right school but if that does scare away then you know go back to yoga go back to you or the kids yoga class I want to hear it definitely what experiences you’re having things to do for the women listening can we just amplify that that incentive to to seek Sisterhood in this path new newer for me than it was before I learned Pancho Villa part of my opening up was to open up to other women and to do that you have to open up to yourself and you have to release yourself of that that competition that jealousy and was like I can’t even tell you there’s no work for it but you you need that meet at 4 because you also have people to have bounced off of as you tumble through this pass is not something that you scroll down movie create after I ever got certified I went to school and you leave you leave Elite certification was song of the group of people that are on the same server Pat and a friend’s family but the safest place you could ever think of what these people and so when you get back home and get that you know now because you’re not a people talking to you like you should be talked to you in people treating me like I should be treated so what you should do is create your own sphere Sisterhood your own Tsonga at home do it from whoever does your best friend if you have to go on a meet up if you have to you know go online and find somebody that’s interested in the same thing you are just do it because you the spiritual path alone it’s hard it’s really hard and it doesn’t have to be the same people that you are going to adopt into your Sisterhood there are going to be just as grateful to have you as you are to have them so yeah I definitely encourage that I’ve seen people who come into a retreat before we go throughout the training and have them and they sent their closed off and maybe they only like girls that much like I don’t have a lot of girl friends best friends with all the girls you love them that your sister has your Chapstick so if you’re finding it hard to open up open up in in find The Sisterhood you have to really look at look and see what you’re scared of what are you afraid of inside of yourself that you might experience with that and realize that they’re just reflections of you especially if they’re on the same path yeah everybody needs some support and I feel like you should not short yourself of that right and based on everything that led up to this point in the conversation why would you be competing over subpar men anyway is that right what were you fighting for so that is an interesting there’s a few a few more Dimensions that I love to explore with you if you’re willing out on this which is that it’s the benefits that I’m witnessing women in their Sisterhood of Tantra together with the benefits that I’m seeing is it there I guess this is an over-simplification but I feel like it’s been useful when I tight when I’m encouraging women friends of mine in specially ones that are wanting to in interacting engage with me an intimate manner I’m wondering how you feel about just the idea that when when women are getting along they can so much more effectively satisfy and nourish each other’s needs for emotional intimacy to a point where they stop trying to get squeeze blood from a stone cuz sometimes men’s heart chakras and must have really been working on it long time you’re not going to get them to listen or pay attention or be empathetic or be sensitive cuz they’re too busy watching ESPN or barbecuing or whatever like just watching guys punch the shit out of each other and maybe they’re good for things like hey honey could you go lift that heavy thing or grab that thing that’s really high up and like fuck the shit out of me when I feel like it and tell them I’m going to be having ammo Joe Anthony Missy with my sister girlfriends who I don’t fight over because we see our natural biological and emotional Darius a superiority am I am I going too far strong women is really is kind of like you don’t feel like you need a man it just happened because that nourishment is there and you like yeah I have everything I need but if that’s all you need that you can just get that did not from the women that are in my life until the last couple years it’s just the women there are in your life will support you more than any man that’s in your life just being together and that’s yeah awesome well that’s the that is the glory that I’m I’m hoping that we can achieve because yeah it’s people are afraid of matriarchy very afraid to let go of that sense of what they’re used to patriarchy so it’s closed off emotionally and so and this is why people who did they look at Tantra and they say oh it’s all woohoo it’s it’s not just some fluffy I mean this is very important practical from people who have like they have an idea already of what do you think they know and what you think is true and so the idea that you have an energy body like that’s not in my books I don’t know that in school so that’s magic that you made that up. Got out of your head and into your body and start to feel and a weekend that since it’s already there you’re not going to go find anything new with your ability to be aware of it right well and that brings me you know back to something I ate I want to touch on if we can your you were a trained skeptic as a Western Scientific nurse practitioner so you were even more credible as a believer in the time should I because you have done methodical training and you’ve had to really tune into the physical body and and the anatomy of the physical body and all of the the measurable aspects of physiology that would be required to be a successful nurse practitioner so you want to talk a bit about how that training has reinforced and sore complimented your Township training and how it feels physically oh my word how people behave how we in Western science we cure we three elements with your disease so I have that knowledge to help me find of bounce off my Eastern king without you and floor pattern help me relax and understanding the big picture and so instead of just having the Taj review I have the U of people that what usually go against photography and I feel like that gives me kind of the upper hand against the Skeptics to you in a way that you can understand that you learn your way but I’m telling you how it works on the other side so I feel like I am able to be the middleman in in a way that’s awesome yeah there this is this is kind of my dream is to continue the the work of medical research around specially sexual healing and what the before-and-after looks like when that those procedures are done and you can see the literally I think we’ll get to a point where you can weigh somebody in before a tantric sexual healing and weigh them out and actually yeah measurable difference is that something that you have dealt with I know that your baby is very outspoken and and about her and I kind of went into depth about that and I’ve heard Jack drouin story very moving story is a male Survivor and just wow I mean just if anybody is interested in Tantra and they haven’t listened to every episode of Davy words podcast I think you’re a lot wow right on well that’s amazing so then yeah do you want to talk about what what’s up what’s been notable for you as a practitioner around healing women’s sexual trauma and Men sexual trauma and all of the various forms if it can take if you have thoughts on that is certainly, I feel like there’s a Common Thread and that is a lack of lack of present and it’s the lack of presidents has the reason that you have like a peasant it could be from from trauma and you don’t want to be in your body that sometimes you know until you you’re not there making you not have orgasm so that’s how it kind of the big picture with with men especially with t e I’ve noticed a lot of stress so you have a lot of stress in the way that you would like to see you and that’s because you’re not you know you’re not into you’re not present with the sexual situation your penis is going to tell on you and it’s going to go down or if it’s a yes dress and that emotional trauma those are affected the way that our bodies function sexually and not sexually when we were when we have, we hold it in our body you can hold it in our Yoni and that’s all that happened with your system awesome well here’s this is another it we got a few minutes left and and I feel like another thing another area that I’m not sure I guess I I’m I’m more from I’m very interested in what your training is in and what Davies doing because I have more of a Hindu is that is that the crude term to use but I would I’d rather say I have more of the the time trick South Asian goddess worship template for for this stuff which is its really and there’s a whole sort of Forgotten and suppress Cult of the tantric yogini which was like the The Witch covens of the tantric did they weren’t just yoga practitioners just doing the body postures but they were actually even call and feminist revolutionary couples that we’re living on the outskirts so forth to Doc’s Hinduism and sort of outside of marriages and outside of the the dominant culture and they were doing really intense powerful goddess worship rituals in becoming channels and mediums and conduits of the Shakti energy and creating art and music and dance and ritual around that and really there’s there’s Scholars alive on the planet today who are trying to piece together the archaeology and the you know that the geography of of those Traditions spread time what is really starting to congeal more for me at as as one who sort of initiated in that sort of path is just the the power of not sloppy drunk in orgies or BDSM play parties per se but the power of the sacred geometry of group synchronized breathing exercises and sexual ritual that’s actually very well-managed and curated for maximum healing potential and sort of you know more logs on the fire equals a bigger flame but it’s also can be dangerous in a lot of ways and I’m wondering if you know a lot of people who are teaching Tantra now it’s about have a better relationship with your man or your guy or gal and it’s I ended the frontier of it is is to catch up to the swingers and the the king stirs and actually have more more sacred compositions or orchestras of group energy exchange I’m wondering if that’s something that you were at all working on or wherever for yeah I have ideas about a huge power I we did something similar to that Last Retreat as a group as a big group I don’t know if 1418 people and we did actually a series of Tibetan prayers or whatever you want to call the medication over one of our practitioner she was dealing with some thickness and we wanted to give her an energy healing and so yeah so that was something that I want to see you again it’s not easy to do all the time unless you have an organized group of people doing the same thing in your area that’s the way that I’m hoping that it’s just like teaching my friends the ones that are closest to me the speaker group right on I guess I have us question I have for you is have you ever seen the movie The Golden Child which was Eddie Murphy made a movie all about Tibetan Buddhist Tantra and it was an 80s movie that to you got to see it again because it is absolutely everything we’re talking about and Beyond and they even have well I’m not even I don’t want to spoil it but anybody who is interested in Nepalese and Tibetan Buddhist Tantra and they have happy to have these flashbacks from Seeing Eddie Murphy go to bed and practiced all these esoteric arts and there’s even symbolism around semen retention yeah there’s a scene where I guess I’ll spoil this one scene in order to get the Ashanti dagger to use to slay the demon that’s come to Earth do to Kill The Golden Child who brings compassion to humanity in order for Eddie Murphy the chosen one to be able to go to The Crucible test to get this knife the sacred knife to slay the demon he has got to hold a cup of water without spilling one drop and go through this obstacle course and then he has to question himself what to do with this cup of water because he can’t get through this flame to take to grab the knife and then it Dawns on him that he should ingest thus the water himself only at the right time and that that gives him the power to take it so it’s a very deep teaching about injaculation and semen retention and the powers of activation to happen when you don’t just frivolous frivolous they spill your seed so I don’t know what channel it’s amazing so yeah that’ll be on your 101 prerequisites absolute Township training for sure or your extracurricular activities yeah cool what do you want to talk a bit about what you have coming up and just again plug the website and let people know how to get in touch so I do have Bible on the 29th of April and it’s going to be in Costa Mesa California for you local people and it will be on your own yoga so I’ll have some have any but you can also get them online or bring your own but this Workshop is going to be just wonderful for women such as you if you have issues with your knee if you have numbness not having orgasms feel the same after childbirth you need to come this Workshop because it also gives you everything you need the tools and hopefully you leave with a new a new pack for Yoni and transformation beautiful and I will say I’ll say I’ll add to that and say that it is such a big difference from a male’s perspective to be making love to a woman who’s the only is is ripped you know because it is yeah it’s in this thing about o being tight but it’s really of dexterity and it’s like you know this is something I’ve been working on lately and I’m happy to be at the next level will they never even have probably heard about a dreamed about that that there’s a I’m very happy I have more Sensation that I’ve ever had in my life vaginal orgasms where I can have them before and it just feels amazing yeah yeah I just F I had to make an analogy I would say men you want to support your your beloved’s on this path because imagine that your lingam is is if it has the experience of being like a saxophone and her Yoni is like a professional saxophone player playing a saxophone with that much dexterity so it’s not it’s not ya the this it is a big it’s a big important Frontier of shift in Consciousness in to thank you for doing housework and benefits on on all for all genders with his so yeah well on that note I think we’ll call it a night and just thank you again so much for your time and I look forward to hopefully when there’s a coed or men’s Focus Workshop allow try to check it out or have you been to the year I know you’re close to the the goddess Temple of Orange County have you been to that that Temple but I don’t know where it is it’s in Irvine you be adored there and cherish tonight I definitely hope that a yeah you you kind of bring your nose area definitely cuz it’s probably some really close so there’s also a Kali Temple Hindu goddess Kali temple in Laguna Beach it’s been there for quite a while and they’re very much what you would call left hand or the right hand path or you know it’s not the sexual term sure that it’s it’s very yeah it that’s really the deepest roots of of Tantra there’s going to be no there is some evidence that goes back to ancient Egypt that it’s a man has shamanic roots in Southern India going back just so many thousands of years and and a beautiful truth about the history of it is that there was a time when the when there was Major conquest and colonization and repression and luckily the wisdom of Millenia were copied by scribes in Tibet and the captain on Brooklyn Asia thank you for being a part of that important work to keep the knowledge alive and yeah you’re blessed to be in in between I think you’re in between two of these deep rich Temple so hopefully you’ll be able to buy with them too right on it was okay thank you for bearing with all my Antics to is fun to be able to talk shop with somebody who’s on the Levelland hang out with you so cool alright then we’ll take care and have a good night. 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Tantra to the People with Devi Ward TPP32


Devi Ward TantraIn this episode, Devi and I discuss the need for more grass roots activism within the modern tantra movement. We explore our complimentary visions for more publicly accessible resources that will bring tantra to the people!

Devi’s Bio:
Devi Ward is an internationally recognized Tantra Expert, Certified Tantric Healer, Certified Reiki Practitioner, Tibetan Tantric Dakini of the Shangpa Kagyu Lineage, and one of the first Westerners qualified to teach the Secret Tibetan Five Element Sexual Tantras, which stem from a 2,600 year old lineage of Tibetan Tantric Buddhism. She is an Author and Radio Host of Sex is Medicine with Devi Ward, airing live Thursdays at 7pm PST, on Contact Talk Radio.

Her personal journey from Stripper, to Monk, to Tantrika enables her to call upon her own experience of profound life transformation through Tantra and sexual healing. As a survivor of sexual abuse, Devi provides down-to-earth, experience-based insight into using sacred sexuality, Tantra, and “pleasure as medicine” for healing. She has had extensive training in Non-Violent Communication and has been facilitating Meditation and personal growth workshops since 2000.

Devi has been featured as a Tantra and Female Sexuality Expert in countless articles, and over 30 different radio and television networks world-wide including; Playboy Radio, Men’s Health Magazine, CBS, NBC and Rogers TV.

She has been a featured presenter at; Prana Yoga College and Rhodes Wellness College in Vancouver, BC. The 2013 Taboo, Naughty but Nice Show, The 2013 Living Extraordinary Conference, The 2013 Live and Be Well Conference in Vancouver, BC. The 2014 California Women’s Conference, The 2014 Detroit Women’s Conference, and The 2014 GDay Goddess Event in Vancouver, BC.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin baby word welcome to the township Punk podcast this is episode number 32 and I’m so thrilled to have you on and I would love to have you do a little opening ceremony for us if you would invite you and everybody listening to had with your chin tilted slightly downward this aligns the chakras along your central Channel hands and a comfortable position tongue on the roof of your mouth and for this were going to meditate with her eyes open so eyes open in a soft gaze bringing your attention to your breath inhaling and exhaling through your nose and as you inhale feeling the air fill your belly feeling your belly expand as you inhale and feeling it relaxes you exhale now with your next inhalation breathing all the way into your genitals feeling your pelvic floor feeling your roots feeling your genitals your labia your lingam your scrotum your anus your whole bottom and bringing all of your attention and all of your awareness to your route letting it fill with life and as you exhale inviting that area of your body to relax to release and to let go I’m continuing to consciously breathe into your route into your pelvic floor I’m going to invite you to count 10 Bratz the count is at the end of each exhalation When You Reach 10 breaths just continue watching her breath and feeling your genitals and a way that we don’t normally have an opportunity and then when you’ve completed your 10 deep breaths just gently bringing your awareness back and noticing how you feel how your body feels and how you feel in your body and that’s all 50 siblings so I want to say first of all I grew up in Bellingham Washington and so are you is that where you’re located now or that I know you were there in the past it won’t be happy to have made the decision to stay here I wasn’t I wasn’t sure I was going to stay but I decided to stay so here I am I’m loving it so I have a few items and I listen to all of your podcasts and I hope also listen to all of the Francesca Gentilly 6 * 4 Kamasutra podcast from a few years back and I’ve also been following all of Laurie handlers podcast and so I feel like I have a lot of good sense of a lot of what’s going on in the tundra field and I particularly wanted to address a few topics with you that I haven’t heard that you’ve touched on but I’d like to explore a little bit further and one of them is the kind of response that X speakers can be making as activist to mitigate sexual violation and also to apply some of what we know towards the prevention side and the treatment side of the perpetrators and the Predators who if you look at the Staggering statistics there’s a lot come out there and I’m curious what your thoughts are on that issue if you care to share well show perpetrators like rape and that kind of thing just like you know nor like we’re living a rape culture you talking about like people who have actual what I would consider to be like a type of illness like that like to molest little children so what are you talkin about everything or just certain things well yeah it’s it’s a spectrum right and I remember one of the interviews you did with that person who’s doing the research on making the porn addiction recovery kits and do you remember she mentioned at one point that the new statistics are showing that it’s not actually textbook clinical pedophilia pedophiles who are starting to engage in child sexual abuse there actually people who are addicted to the extreme porn and they’re starting to go out and act out these extreme fantasies are getting from the poor and so it’s kind of like you know to reframe the question based on you said I’m curious on your thoughts across the Spectrum everything from just horny teenagers and date rape to you know creepy old man The Stranger Danger the in the home danger of friends of the family relatives and even father’s you know whatever comes to mind I’m curious to know what you have to say yeah so so for me what comes to mind is always identifying the cause or the need that’s attempting to be met through that action so you know I really don’t think that there is one succinct answer to the question truly because when you we talked about you know child molestation will keeping in mind that so many people have been molested themselves and that’s the trauma that continues to perpetuate itself right so my experience of the little bit of experience I’ve had in in encountering you know they have a history of sexual abuse and Trauma like passing down that lineage so can Contra help with that will of course I mean in a help with pretty much anything in my opinion but again it’s identifying the car so somebody like that who has a severe trauma that’s motivating their behavior is going to be different than somebody who’s just desensitize because I grew up in porn culture that make sense absolutely yeah yeah yeah go ahead the the lying need that the behavior or the strategy is attempting to meet so you know we’re just talking about generally living in porn culture and rape culture well God I mean wow there is so multifaceted like I on my wrist Show recently I had dr. Ron Goldman and we were talking about so you know circumcision trauma I honestly I truly believe you no impact man haven’t ever raped or can ever rape but I really believe that infant male circumcision contributes to a tremendous amount of our the propensity of sexual violence in in men and you know he spoke at length about severing the mother-infant bonding birth and just the way we do birth in the burning process in Western culture like we are a culture of people walking around who have suffered trauma you know it did to one degree or another some of us more so than others and so I think a lot of our society culture is a reflection of trauma and so again it’s about going to the route going to the source understanding what trauma is how it impacts the nervous system how it destabilizes and creates and causes dysfunction and what are these causes what are the sources of @ramen if we remove those causes and we remove those sources I think we have a very different expression of life we be seeing very very different things in our culture at if everything from you know suffering of the mother and pain pain male circumcision to you know living in it and a sex negative and completely ignorant culture I mean that’s traumatizing to us so yeah I mean I just think there’s so many layers to him that I that I don’t think there’s one solution other than identifying the cause and looking to remove it is that make sense yeah definitely and this is kind of become my passion I’m a Survivor and yeah this is this is kind of it become my life study and I just want to say again I’m so grateful that you were out there in all of the country cuz you’re out there a dressing that whole spectrum of issues that you were mentioning from the trauma to the shaming and the sex negativity and just the whole Shadow Miss of sexuality it’s going to breed Shadow behavior and you know I’ve experienced some extreme forms of victimization and and that’s why it matters so much to me to connect with people like you on this and I am curious what your thoughts are on framing this issue Laurie handlers at one point said in one of her podcast that she views this sort of times for sexual healing work as a form of modern-day exorcism and that when you’re removing blockages and this is my paraphrasing but removing of blockages energetically actually something a lot more tangibly biological on an aspen and Astro perspective I don’t know Buddhist Tantra Hindu Tantra is very Adept at understanding that there are entities that are opportunistic and that are going to try to you know create harm in our Dimension and that’s a lot for some people to swallow Western clinical Medical Science they don’t want to acknowledge the spirit world they want to look at chemistry and Physiology and not phenomenology some wondering how does that strike you the idea that when we’re we’re dealing with the form of exorcism when we’re doing this Sexual Healing work with Tantra is that variety different levels like you know who you think about Carl Jung and and confronting our shadows and kind of like feeding our demons that sort of thing so our internal demons and whether or whether those demons are separate entities you don’t work or not is is Up For Debate even in Tantra Buddhism I mean on one level yeah I mean I’m very much believe in the spirit realm I have direct experience of it many of the people that are closest to me see spirits in other psychics and I just that’s what that’s part of your world so it’s so it’s a Consciousness in a culture that I’m very comfortable with and and and pretty much live and breathe in exist within and as far as doing art untoward Sexual Healing work are we exercising while perhaps some external entities but also their internal demons as well you know so it’s kind of like you get to a certain level of where inside outside same so is this demon showing up outside of me just a reflection of a demon inside of me or vice versa is right I don’t really think it matters to a large degree other than the fact that we that we are in fact doing the healing work and we are re stabilizing and recalibrating our ability to function as whole healthy human being so what whatever that means wherever the trauma comes from is it you know my father gave me a spirit when I was 15 or is it just that you know I have a low self-esteem you know what is it what is the cause and then what is it what is the what is a symptom of it it doesn’t doesn’t really matter to a degree to me it’s more about making sure that we have the tools that we need to remove those blocks to blister to heal and to become fully functional does that make sense if you can feel where I’m trying to go with this it said there’s this ancient spirit world taxonomy and then there’s this modern denial of the spirit world and Tantra and psychedelics and psychedelic Tantra together are really revealing the truth of what we’re both talking about in ways that I think you know are starting to be clinically tested and you don’t discovered in the modern sense and I really I guess this makes me want to move on to the next question which is let’s say Davey that you and I were a part of a team that was given pretty much an infinite Blue Sky budget to solve these problems and to create sex-positive holistic sexual Enterprise zones that are maybe not in the middle of the downtown shopping district but maybe somewhere in like a permaculture Farm environment or some kind of tropical island where we can do legal work on sir drivers and do harm reduction Rehabilitation for perpetrators in different areas let’s say and actually have Resort Hotel sexual spas and combined these things in a permaculture design where all of the different service providers are working in harmony Inn in concert and there’s also just all kinds of ecological Dimensions to it I have that Vision I feel like you’re the kind of person I believe you have a gardening background to if I remember correctly what kind of Visions come to mine if you were imagining you had no legal limitations and no Financial limitations to create view of the paradise for Heelers season 4 Taurus and everything you know orientation right now is really if I had unlimited resources I would bring it to the people like I would go to Detroit and I would create a Healing Center in Detroit for people to continuously access on everyday level because this is a thing that I’ve discovered we need support everyday for our healing process it isn’t just something that we get to take a vacation you know once a year and work on it for a couple weeks and then we’re back and we’re all good and then we’re back in life no it’s an everyday thing and we need the support if we’re talkin about creating Community healing Community we need that support on an everyday basis we need it you know 24/7 and especially when we’re talking about doing things like healing trauma people need access to resources now and they need access to resources in their communities and can’t be something that you know they’ve got to go fly away too quiet and the thing is is most of the people that I’ve encountered that have them need for these resources they don’t have a freaking money to go on the healing vacation and go to a Healing Spa like that’s for people who have the privilege of having enough money and that’s a great wonderful thing and may we all be blessed but some of the people that need the healing the most don’t have two pennies to rub together right so that’s where I want to go if I have unlimited resources I want to use those resources to build things for the people who don’t have the resources to do it for themselves that make sense I’m so glad to hear you say that the next level for me too cuz I feel like I’ve had to get a lot of access to the healing that I needed my whole life by you know blessings and miracles it wasn’t easy to find the people I found in to get connected and and I I do I struggle financially so it’s it’s not it didn’t come easy but yeah hearing you say that is actually the model that I really want to see happen I’d like to see The for-profit Intercept Enterprise country cousin six you know Industries pornographers and Moguls of all that actually kick down to create goddess clinics if we could use a term if so let’s talk about that because I feel like they’re there will come a time when the the the highly lucrative sector sector of the sexual healing world will will be so kind as to help set up these nonprofit kind of charitable Community Healing Centers in in in in like a clinic kind of model so if you would develop that further and just talk about what’s a date what it what what is a normal day look like for a Community Access kind of Clinic model we’re in the process of creating here in Bellingham Bella Vino the two to the degree that we can but we’re actually that’s what we’re reorienting our business model to to include a non-profit Branch to bring these instructions out into the community so that people can have access to them right so you know if I could have anything I wanted quite frankly I would buy a building in Detroit have it read renovated and I would have I obviously would have to certified Tibetan Tantra practitioners teaching the four pillars of Tibetan Tantra on an everyday basis and there would be meditation classes Dharma classes are there the movement classes there would perhaps be in a once-a-week discussion grooves Tantra classes that sort of thing and then I also really wanted to open it up and bringing other modalities of healing and other Educators another excellent practitioners in their field and and create a community where were supporting each other in healing ring and personal growth and also supporting each other through our break down so that we can have breakthrough so the breakdowns become breakthroughs nonviolent communication is a huge part of my lifestyle I believe in it absolutely passionately it something I I aspire to live and breathe in every moment so having daily classes in that perhaps you know and just totally knew concepts of this is all just like flying by the seat of my pants for the most part in into the absolute structure what it would look like but more for me it’s actually having a tangible physical place where people can come to access resources and then there would obviously be some food growing too because my dog the amount of food we can grow on like such a position of land is in sand there’s no reason people should be starving in the cities you can grow food that was one of my aspirations many years ago is the setup Gardens in inner cities cuz there was all this on you land and it’s like it’s and it’s such a joyful experience to participate in the cycle of life to like I love honestly I love composting my poop yes posting my Campos in my room and then putting it on the fruit trees and then growing fruit trees and then eating the fruit and then pooping and then pooping in the compost pile of that whole cycle right I love it and I love like when I lived on a farm in like clean mucking out the chicken in the hen house and then taking the poop and whatever to the Garden have been growing my food in that and I just I love that I love that whole cycle of of life and I think it’s healing and it’s healthy for us as human beings to have our hands in the dirt absolutely yeah actually is a little thing on the side I can’t wear this recently but someone is talking about all the C-section births it’s limiting the exposure to healthy beneficial bacteria is through the vaginal Canal that would be used to build you know the baby’s immune system and I’m so this is so music to my ears hearing you say this bringing us all together the ecological gardening and the on the sun site facility permaculture stuff it’s this is my dream absolutely and so I’m already just so thrilled you’re here you’re missing this together and I don’t feel so alone in this Vision cuz yeah I mean I see you know that I think the chances that a victim of any kind of sexual violation is going to discover the healing path of Tantra is bait there’s just no educational marketing budget like a dare program but I see being you know that the Surgeon General just declare is Tantra 8 in the medical eyes form tonsil it’s a or clinical form of of it as part of what you get and your health care package because it’s it’s so debilitating to be suffering from the after-effects of sexual abuse it’s it’s just you know I want allies in this Mission time and yet on the other hand that doesn’t have to stop us from bringing it to the people who needed the most I think some of the confusion those there are so many different styles of Tantra out there but it can be confusing that’s why I’m really clear that what I practice and teaches Tibetan Tantra so it’s not the same so when people come to me looking for Tom’s riney have to let them know it it’s not the same as what you saw on TV it’s not even going to be the same as like a practitioner in Seattle same city that I live in let’s be there’s different lineages there’s different styles of practices and they do overlap in some cases but not in every case and one of the primary differences and in my practice in those people I associate with his chakras medicine and that’s what I hear you saying that it said that it’s a pop of profound healing not everybody uses or talk to her that way right so that create some confusion definitely definitely well I feel like you know the check is already in the mail these prayers are being heard and listen to and we’ll get the help we need and I’m just thrilled about that so I will if there’s another another side that I love to get your your your feelings and thoughts about which is I consider myself a pretty hardcore eco-feminist the scholar and I I feel it’s a man’s Duty and in a patriarchal world if he has any connection to his heart to really develop compassion around 5,000 years of patriarchal domination and Dominator culture and because I I I have that like I guess pretty academic overview of the history of patriarchy would say I feel like something that could be an extension of of what we’re talking about would be to actually acknowledge how threatening the world is and actually put together funding and infrastructure to create sexual refugee camps as a term for all of the victims of throughout the world in war-torn zones and just poverty-stricken nation’s course southeast Asia and all these sex tourism hot spots and actually be like okay some people from the first world can shave off a tiny bit of their extravagant incomes to support developing centers where they’re actually full I’m like a like a regular refugee camp but of course with permaculture and of course with there’s actually I believe it’s Bangladesh that has a completely female police keeping our peacekeeping police unit that’s all you know kid it up from head to toe and they they’re their able to secure territory so wondering how is that something that you could ride with the idea of a sexual refugee camp model that could be established in different places throughout the world and I think there’s I think there’s a lot of us out there who are doing a lot of victim support what I am really starting to feel turned on by as looking again at the perpetrators like what is the motivating behavior of the perpetrators is it can we get to the core underlying need can we find out there why why are they doing this is it because they’re disconnected is it because they’re ignorant is because they’re in pain like what is the why I want to I want to address Wyatt’s why it’s happening to begin with as opposed to you know the aftermath dealing with the aftermath yes we do need to address the aftermath for sure absolutely and I just kind of feel like you know looking at my career in the world it’s like there’s a lot of really amazing stunts Rica’s and sexual healers and sex educator is out there that are that are providing that that are doing that better leaders in my and what what’s really interesting and motivating to me is looking at the depth of pain that causes someone to cause that degree of harm to another human being. That’s what I’m curious about awesome I will do so if you had let’s say another sub project of your infinite budget if you were to let’s say it was talk about in Africa the soldiers who rape infants because of a belief system that it’s safer to protect themselves from HIV infection as one example of extreme almost institutionalized you child sexual abuse and rape what what kind of infrastructure would you put in place or how would you approach something like that with your team in your budget inn but I I don’t do em like I don’t do em but I don’t I’m and I’m an idea person I like the how to like that’s what I hire other people to do cuz I don’t know how to do that wasn’t what I would do is say okay so here’s the situation so let’s get a room together the perpetrators and let’s start doing some NDC work or something you don’t like I’m a person that they would call in to teach specific modalities I’m not the person who can figure out how to put it all together to make it work that’s not me okay going to say sorry sorry to shoot you down there I just yeah that makes sense though this was the question was going to ask so too these war-torn regions I just think about I think about I asked why I asked the higher self the spirits the guy you know what are the deepest wounds on Earth in terms of where demons are getting a free lunch the easiest and it’s a Native American reservations war-torn regions in Africa and the sex trade zones in throughout the world where there’s this extreme brothels and whatnot and and I wonder how do you put those those operations out of business and I’m very hopeful about this concept that is called The Sex Drake is that something you’ve studied at all or that you have any thoughts on as far as how to how to get these guys attention you know you want to go have a you know a training with to get themselves healed and figure it out if they if women are basically United in this some sex strike movement then they get to have some bargaining power and get to put these young boys through some initiations to get them straightened out like bat in North looks to North America as a role model for Behavior right you know we got Hollywood in media and and people watch our stuff all over the world in model their lives and their you know they’re their modes in their morals and ethics and codes of conduct after what they think hours are from watching our media and let’s also acknowledge the fact that in Africa you know there are millions of men being circumcised because the American Center for Disease Control decided that that’s a good fucking idea so there’s all these men better now having you know suffering the trauma of having the most sensitive part of their penis cut off because Americans think that’s a good idea right and then oh wow look at all the violence nor that’s happening to him is that a coincidence I really don’t think so so I really think you’re talkin about like yes these are all these war-torn countries and whatever like there is to know they’re their father for these end do you stew that’s what’s a good food there but I also think like my really motivated by think globally and act locally and I think that like as a country is a western Nation the United States is pretty effed up I mean just again talking with Ron Goldman about the birthing practices and the trauma that’s perpetuated and the first world nation just by the way women give birth in this culture just buy that all you have to do is change a few things about the birthing process and you were around ocated a tremendous amount of trauma and keeping in mind that trauma perpetuates, so if we as a first world nation as leaders in many ways as role models are consistently perpetuating a a society a culture of trauma what impact does it have on the rest of the world huge impact so I really motivated to act like to act locally like let’s get our shit cleaned up let’s be like we living the ideal that we all truly want to live let’s be in integrity and being Harmony and being balanced mind body and spirit and then from there we can bring that message to other countries instead of bringing these screwed up effed-up methods that are just cause dysfunction and disease and bombs and whatever else we brought the other countries the last few hundred years let’s create a model of sustainability of Health and Wellness of compassion of love let’s let’s create a functioning healthy society and then and then support other communities in building a pond that that makes sense me to that the reason that those places are embroiled in Warfare is because they’re trying to serve first world markets for whatever it is diamonds or other mining operations minerals it’s all funneling into the the same system of colonialism that’s been the reason that everything got torn apart hundreds or thousands years ago so you’re absolutely right when in I’m so bad I don’t have a television and I don’t watch cable and so I’m totally ignorant when it comes to current event news because I just I had literally do not pay attention to it but it’s so the last Wars we had with a bushy no and office and all that like those countries are still freaking devastated devastated because of us because of us so it’s kind of like you know like we need to get her own shit together before we start going out preaching to people about how they need to get their shit together and if we as world leaders are actually healthy and functional that is going to send a tone for the rest of the world it absolutely will but we’re pretty dysfunctional as individuals that make up a very dysfunctional culture so let’s let’s go to the source let’s go to the route absolutely wonderful well I’m going to take another deep breath cuz I appreciate you bearing your soul and working through some of this very fiery material and I think since we have a few minutes left shift gears into something a little softer and more playful if you don’t mind ya and I just got to say I’m so happy that we’re talking and it has been something I’ve been dreaming of for a long time and it gives me a lot of power and passion to move forward and I feel like I really do also resonate with that circumcision episode you just did my mother had the had the graciousness to not have mutilated and she kept me uncut and I I did suffer in childhood a bit if I’m feeling of different nests or awkwardness but I believe me it’s been over over by the the blessing of having it there and and I can relate and I know I know it’s it is extremely damaging and I believe that you’re so right and he was so right saying that this is a trauma at that stage is just going to Cascade so so the my my Direction I want to go for those few minutes in s you some thoughts on the idea of your thoughts about the how how are we going to I mean I know your prescription for 6 weeks of semen retention and I’m I’m I’m going to be honest I’m it’s my ideal to work out to that and as it as an uncut person it’s I think it’s a lot harder to I mean that’s what anywhere between every up to 70% more watching the statue that you have to have that you have to transmute at 2 to retain your semen in and I feel like there’s an interesting Spectrum I’ve studied this white tigers phenomenon in China where the women know that the Jing and the end of the minerals in the essence that is coming from the semen they actually have a a culture of consuming that every day and they have older guys that practice the longer term semen retention and they get one of his one of his offerings on a longer-term cycle and then the your guys they’re essentially sucking them off on daily basis and absorbing all that and developing themselves and titties you know living goddesses based on that so that’s one interesting cultural example and then I know there’s there’s tantric rituals hinder tantric rituals where the ejaculate is part of the ritual but there’s transmutation in between and then I’ve heard things like as long as you transmute the energy than you sort of them absorb the essence up the chakras and if you spill your seed at that point it’s not as big of a deal and then another extreme there’s these sex Magik gnostics who believe that any ejaculation at all in your life is opening up this portal to hell and there such a thing as in their view a inverted Kundalini snakes that are sort of demonic in nature and better really running the world because of extreme over ejaculation and I I’m somewhere in there in an alignment with that feeling like these these all this corn is a form of Satanic ritual abuse where they’re using ejaculation as a I really like sort of demonic or satanic kind of a function so is there a practical strategy I know you have your teachings that would you know train a man to be able to last for six weeks before release could you provide some practical outlines for how you get a man who’s used to probably just used to ejaculating everyday to some training wheels and what not to get him on that path towards the longer-term retention strategy like what do you think about that is there any Marriott intermediary path well the first thing to recognize is that orgasm and ejaculation or two separate functions of the nervous system so you just need the correct methods to begin separating them and to me that’s part of becoming a sexually mature mad I mean if you was a man or not able to choose when you ejaculate to a large degree end if you haven’t experienced non ejaculatory orgasm is moving into multiple orgasms in here till you’re still sexually immature same for women women who have an experienced multiple multiple orgasms are sexually immature as well and we’re stuck to their sexual maturity stunt in because we don’t receive education of us culture so what I say six weeks when we say six weeks between ejaculation we don’t mean six weeks between orgasim we mean specifically ejaculation ejaculation has one tiny little type of orgasm men are capable of over eight different kinds of orgasm and the men that I work with his students and clients in the men who I take to be my lover’s they will tell you that that after they go through that initial. Of separating orgasm from ejaculation which is really really simple with the methods that we teach when they get to about week 4 5 6 they don’t want to ejaculate they feel so amazing their orgasms there non ejaculatory orgasms becomes so much more satisfying that they rarely ever want to ejaculate and when they do it’s like there is a planet be like okay we’re going to have a party we’re going to Steve already had 10 other non ejaculatory full-body orgasms event and one of my lovers who I was playing with just this weekend have the most end pain in my entire life it was like his whole body was like contorted for like over a minute it was over admitted it was just like he was amazing for the drop of a jackulate I mean it was toe curling it we were so amazing we were laughing it was so intense right not a drop of a jackulate so you know it’s kind of like from my perspective and I’ve heard the man again the mineko this it’s like you take your the best ballbuster you’ve ever had where you like it was the best fucking orgasm you’ve ever had and literally multiply that by a hundred and that is what your potential is when you learn to separate orgasm from ejaculation so the trick is just is learning the correct methods and that’s what I make a living doing so there’s a variety of ways you can access those whether it’s through me or online program but once you have the instructions it’s really simple it’s not rocket science it’s so simple it’s ridiculous that more people don’t know it awesome so where I’m at is it is it sounds like what you’re saying is it when I try to explain this to people because I have mastered the art of separating and having multiple full body and then just you’re just in an orgasm forever kind of a feeling or you’re in this the field of orgasm as opposed to the sneeze response of ejaculation and and that just last and and and I honestly feel when I dance with somebody I feel like I’m seriously having full full body multiple chakra orgasm and something just uncorks I think and you get to that that spot and it becomes easier not to ejaculate the thing the thing I want to ask you is it because this is such an event horizon 4 people to you just can’t imagine it like you’re saying x Hunter is my mucus can’t even pay you can’t conceptualize that you have to do the work to get there and but that’s a good fits a huge payoff so what I’m curious to ask you right now than is I guess maybe I’m still in development because what all what I’ll do is I’ll just do like the Cobra breath kind of a thing shipping or the big draw you know sipping up the energy so I’m kind of cycling almost like playing a didgeridoo or something like that it’s like it’s like it’s like playing it like you watch somebody play didgeridoo that’s what you got to do when that energy builds up and then you don’t have to have the mechanical intervention that’s more dangerous that million dollar spot thing where it’s like you’re actually interrupting the flow after it’s gone past the prostate and you know that’s kind of dangerous so when you were with a man who at one of these 6-week guys which I got to say it’s Way Beyond where I’ve you know been able to get so I’m excited to get there but the my question for you is when you were with the man who is being seized upon by the urge to ejaculate what does it look like what does he look like in your arms is he will wrestling a wild boar is he whistling Dixie what is the physiology of a man who’s at that level when he’s trying to Let It Go there’s two different questions they’re so so for the that I’m playing with and then I make it as soon as I do not have sex with my student so I’ve been there’s a distinction between my students who I teach these things and then they go home and do them and then my lover so I’m actually playing with so so my current lover there is no fighting if there’s no he’s there he’s there’s no fighting ejaculation like it’s just he’s just his body just retains its just what it does and we do make good use of the million-dollar point we use the million-dollar Point like that’s the introductory method that we used to begin the process of separating orgasm from ejaculation and once that’s happened in the body takes over in and of itself and then you very rarely need use the million-dollar point print and the research that I’ve done and then also living with doctor in his who’s am Natural Health Specialists in tibetan holistic healing Specialists never had any readings or results that the million-dollar point is dangerous and anyway if it’s being used properly and correctly so I don’t necessarily agree that that’s a dangerous practice to use I think it’s extremely useful for retraining the nervous system to separate those two and then what I found in both my lovers in my students is once you hit that 6-week Mark and this is what they report they say that there’s a shift between four to six weeks when they naturally move into multiple orgasms they just naturally start their bodies just need dozen of its own volition and then they rarely need to use the Block it’s more a matter of you know what I usually they will usually they will but it’s not yeah it’s it’s never a case that I have an experienced wrestling with an advanced what I would call an advanced practitioner of semen retention that he’s never been wrestling it’s more a case of if he gets too close we just relax and breathe I know there’s a few different semen retention holds that we use I’ll be on the million-dollar point that can support a man in learning to relax with sensation without going over the edge so I’ll do some of those with her you know it’s it’s it’s it’s never like a big crisis or anything it’s just they know there’s they they by the time they moved into multiple orgasms they know their point of no return so that you know if they’re getting close to the point of no return that we just like relax and breathe for a few moments until he’s harnessed is downward-pointing wins and then we can proceed so there’s a there’s a whole bunch of other things that you can do to strengthen your what we call your downward-pointing winds which is going to strengthen and enhance your ability to control direct and maintain your semen you know so that’s why we say it’s a holistic practice it isn’t just your breath isn’t just using his holds it isn’t just doing certain movements it’s all of it together it’s a yo got so life practice and when you use all of these tools together it’s like dancing you mentioned dancing you’re a dancer so you know it’s like when you’re first learning a new style of dads it’s very cerebral and very intellectual but once you integrate the the the practice into your nervous system in your body that’s what you actually that’s that’s when you’re creating art so it’s just it’s it’s just a simple practice of diligence to go from just starting using the methods consistently over a. Of time as instructed and then you’ll get to a certain point where it just comes is easily and naturally as breathing like the men that I’m making love with it’s it’s it’s one so I shouldn’t keep saying that no one man that I’m making love with currently it’s it’s a yeah it’s I mean it’s just it’s easily and naturally as breathing in his orgasm remind me every time he has an orgasm it’s it’s new he’s like I’m having a orgasm as I’ve never thought I can have before it’s like a completely new sensation in almost every time so it’s it’s truly we haven’t even scratched the surface of our of our human sexual potentials really phenomenal beautiful awesome exactly all I wanted to hear and I should be a clarified based on what you said there’s I’ve heard of Potential danger with the mechanical interruptions but you’re saying that’s an intermediary step and you were lying it less and less over time and really it’s the energetic movement that you’ve developed first very cognitively and then it takes over on its own so there is lots of Hope and lots of potential for people to get beyond the heads to the event horizon and just be in the zone and in a flow State dancing with the multiple orgasm says it’s like it’s infinite there is there truly is no end goal like there isn’t it we will continue and that’s cuz, like to me what God is God is infinite Consciousness and ever-expanding forever and that’s what we are as humans we are God incarnate so our experiences ever-evolving and our sexual experiences infinite and that’s that but I don’t know how anyone could ever get bored with sex it’s like there’s there’s so much more to explore so awesome will it it’s I know it’s time for you to head out so I’m going to say thank you thank you thank you so much and my final thought prayer is that we leave the foreskin and tax and that we value the sexual Spiritual Development of men as much if not more than we currently value or top boxers and football players in other contact Sports always say I leave the world in in having mixed Healing Arts competitions as much as mixed martial arts competition that’s my prayer and if you want to say a beautiful prayer to close I would so appreciate it for ultimate Limitless expansion and growth for all of us as individuals and as a planet and as a Yazoo society and the culture and I ain’t know when I really I feel so blessed that there are so many of us on this planet Awakening to female sexual Armon and I’m really turned on and and invested in male sexual empowerment as much as I am female sexual Carbonite all right I’ll see you in the future Hunter Park. 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