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The Golden Child Movie Commentary with Devika and Sagrada TPP218

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In this episode I’m joined by Devika the Techy Tanktrika (devika-singh.com) and Sagrada, for a commentary on the movie the Golden Child which was a favorite movie of mine growing up and is a masterpiece of tantric sexual-spiritual education.

We share our common interests in the themes of the film and share thoughts as it rolls in the background on the significance of each scene as it relates to our life experience in tantra and beyond.

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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number so yeah it’s going to be around table Extravaganza with this Golden Child movie which is so near and dear to my childhood in which took me like 35 years to decode and now I realize everything everything I’ve ever cared to know about Tantra I learned all ready for my age of eight by Eddie Murphy so go figure you got between Eddie Murphy and and Barney the purple dinosaur you know you heard about that right amazing Barney the purple dinosaur yeah he’s that he’s a tantric sex healing master and you need provides a full-service tantric sex work for women who can afford the the billina and I guess yeah he’s just like he’s got Prana just to spare you know so I can check them out on Twitter to that’s how I that’s how I tracked him down sweet. One of these days we got ya at him and Eddie Murphy anytime you’re welcome on the township of podcasts do this tell us all about how it’s done cool so yeah then so we all at this point I’ve watched this movie probably a hundred times and you all have watched it probably one time each and I introduce it to you for devika because this is kind of like your stick is the the tantric Buddhism and the everything I started to learn from you and that was new to me about Tantra that was very much foodist into nature it would just match up to a lot of the symbolism and mythology and storyline of The Golden Child So before we get started with this this experimental commentary we’re just going to play it in the background and just react to it as it goes along it will will let people know where to queue it up from and make sure we’re all on the base of the same starting point but but before we do that would be great just to have a few thoughts of yours that we could just serve your kind of initial debrief analysis thought stream that comes from really having probably a lot more of a sense of what’s going on then the most people in Innisfil oh for sure you know I am looking at it and I’m Amazed by the accuracy of certain things in the sense that this was before the internet has access to your specialty Buddhist communities in this case but what I found particularly interesting is that I know I sent you this documentary called the on the steak and child and was created in 2008 and there was there was a lot of overlap in the sense because in The Golden Child we see this child but you know is said to be the sacred leader from you know prior life and the whole and I mean I don’t get too much into that part because we’ll see it anyways the beginning of the movie but this whole concept of finding this child because it’s important to their word to their community and there’s there’s so much historical in the bite behind that and I just found it amazing that they chose that seem to go along with in this movie I would love to know more about what inspired that this might be because there’s even like a you know we’ll see parts of the beginning where I’m just like yeah okay they they know what’s up they they have a pretty good understanding of the selection process wedding you know possible children who could be these leaders if they’re looking for so that’s pretty amazing and you know it at the same time this movie is also a testament to its time in the sense that it really is you know there are still a couple things that you know we wouldn’t I think this early due today would probably try to do better but I was still quite impressed by that and some of the relics what I saw in the shower I’m so yeah I’m really glad that you brought this phone to my attention bed awesome yeah it’s been accepted by I’ve been dreaming about for a long time cuz I somebody somebody besides me has got to enjoy this as much as I do and I feel like I haven’t found the found that tribe people that can see it from both both perspectives and you know the quick Point I’ve done a little bit of research into the origins of the just reading the Wikipedia and there’s also I’m going to digest the the the magic some notes on the Oliver Harper retrospective commentary where he did a review of the film and he brought up a lot of obscure film sack toys and things about it but but it is interesting to note that it was yeah it was originally intended to be a very serious kind of Adventure Thriller experience and then it’s I think somewhere relatively close to the last minute of getting close to production they just flipped the script Eddie Murphy came in and they decided to make it this way more tongue and cheek experience which totally works and it’s it’s just like so magical I just know when a movie has magic and when it just doesn’t and this just has it and it would not compute but it’s so after I think for westerners to have an entry point of the skepticism of anything mystical and then ething anything of that nature and so he gives you that sort of comic relief of how to approach this from as an American you know and American hero archetype to he’s like the wolf will go into it as we go along but but I will save us all feel free to to somewhat somewhat gracefully interrupt each other if there’s like an Uber we got to make a point about what’s going on cuz we can come in and get off them to the Weeds about about just exploring different aspects but if something comes up on the screen you don’t feel free to just like blurt it out and hopefully we won’t need deposit or back up or anything that could get confusing but I will just go along and and and do like the great says that the other commentators I really like that our form so so yeah without further Ado let’s see if we can kind of get a little bit synced up here so how about let’s try to get it to Missy we’re going at we’re at the point where it’s going to give the like Studio logo mountain range thing in like see see what happens like right after that way we can get pitch like the first title or something like that so so we’ll just let me try to keep it up after the Paramount sign or exactly what is like the first thing that happens right after and then we’ll start there so there’s a balance to the very very beginning of a so alright so we’re at the same point was just let it roll and then by all means tell us what we need to see you read between the lines I I certainly can’t a lot of stuff I wouldn’t pick up on so yeah translate what’s happening hey so it’s definitely taking place in a monastery them suspecting there intending a trailer to be into batter even the Paula because a lot of Tibetans did end up the fun facts or interesting fact rather there is a lot of Tibetan Monks in Nepal can you kill the audio on that sorry we’re going to just okay as you’re saying so much see her The Golden Child is actually a girl to I know that really yeah that is so cool because a lot of the times when we’re looking at actual Encounters of people looking for a previous leaders that usually layer usually looking for boys like I mean not explicitly stated but a lot of the children who have been found in these lineages are boys so that’s that’s pretty cool Russian Tea actually there is an ambiguity They Don’t Really emphasize whether the child has you know what whatever their gender is or non-gender so I think that maybe early makes this ahead of its time so she would give me information you have been sorry earthquake in Nepal a few years ago and they had in mythology that that there was a basically there was a goddess Temple that was spared and there was it a female child of devotion who was in that building and they kind of reaffirm their prophecy that that don’t don’t mess with the goddess Temple or you’ll get the rest you know is like a people were able to read into it what so we just saw some offerings be made and this is her actual Nala from a previous life and it’s really interesting how they did that cuz they gave them and they gave her those three to choose from and she knew which one was hers when she was knowing what that luggage was exactly having some sort of amnesia all right and then we’re going to see the power to restore life which is foreshadowing but we won’t spoil spoil it now she’s picking implements that there’s another process they think what they do they really cool before CGI really was a thing so they’re using real person just amazing to me so here goes the beginning of this raid and you never I guess if you knew more about the the the costuming that you might get some clues about where exactly they’re supposed to be from there or if they’re just like a ragtag band of goons working for the dark Lords of the Underworld did you have any sense of if they were representing some I mean like in Indiana Jones Temple of Doom they actually were explicit about that it was the thuggee cult that they were trying to represent what shall we say it in but there’s no real ID you seem like a good dark spiritual gangsters or something actually seen this sorrow costuming another Buddhist related media as well and I mean I see it I think of Siberian tribes but + communities but I’m very clearly there’s there’s obviously utility in having those typos wardrobe in cold areas right I just reminds me so much of a Game of Thrones character I was going to ask what what statue is behind can we see what statue is behind the child or is it just a question but I think you’re right like I was only imagine what they would have put me in tibetan Buddha but I honestly I can’t see it right now. Thing not to throw any any Asha monoculture under the bus but I know there is some extremely like Twisted Black time for coats out of there but it’s also the place that the word Shamanism comes from so it’s not all there is a lot of Tibetan black magic to there’s one Buddha who actually started off in tibetan black magic and his is a very long story will get into but eventually renounces it and goes on to the Buddhist no path and that’s basically his whole story this whole Jam so yeah there are there is there I mean in any for every lineage there’s always going to be you know a left pop right path dark path you know like there’s obviously always great Pops to right but yeah you’re going to get a variety of different paths with any any spiritual lineage really we we passed it a little bit but was there any significance to the cage are the reason why they needed to basically come like some from Destin yes I just like I would look like one of those Claws from Anarchy okay yeah I don’t know what to say about this what’s happening here it’s the pretty much exactly hey I’m all for the chunky asses I’m okay with this Ray why does he have to be ashamed of it he should be like seeing and dancing and worshipping the chunky asses as they walked by it’s so sad actually kind of seeing him just kind of being like okay I want to go now or you know so what we were referring to is this Montage that’s happening of American looks like l a Hollywood mostly and Eddie Murphy’s walking down the street putting up posters for a missing child who he’s he’s basically like somewhere in between I don’t think he actually is the cop maybe he’s an ex-cop but he’s like a private detective / Bounty Hunter / they caught ya like he puts Outpost reward for missing children so he’s some kind of like benevolent charitable Bounty Hunter kind of thing for lost children and they never really get into why that’s his thing but he’s definitely just plays the part very well as like a man on a mission and but he was at a newsstand and he finds a guy reading a porno magazine anybody makes fun of them in the car runs away and yeah he’s just reacting to everything going on and then we get to a point that I always I always drive to not be that guy but I know that I am so much like they make this I’m talking about right the host of the show who talks too much you are never liked that bad because that’s why I like doing your podcast like you know if you invite me I’m always grateful because I think you know if we always have good exchange mint got all three of us are here too because we’re not let you know I agree I think I mean you definitely let people finish what they’re saying then at least she let the message get across we can hold it for a sign you’re not the only the mic but this guy here I kind of like I kind of remember when there is like shows like this really everybody has 5 Seconds daytime kind of cable access that was the him being on a TV like daytime look like maybe cable access talk show talking about the missing child and giving you some background details and then it’s cutting to this gorgeous Tibetan scholar women who just is holding down her Shakti so hard and just stands out as a character that you would almost never see her stoicism but her sort of Mastery and self-mastery and discipline in her disgust with everything sloppy about the West is so spoken to wish I were a boy find interesting because this actress she’s actually Irish and Colombian and in herself I was like she’s doing really well with the part but I mean if it was today we have a lot of variety I feel it would be hit a little more home to the nationality I would think of all the record I think she did a great job with this everything you just said yes and I will say that that if I were to whatever part of my my time Trek Adventure in life has been has been asserted from the groove been carved by Eddie Murphy than this woman has appeared in my life in the form of three different people and you’re one of them but basically like her entire character has been like split into three of my real life movie characters so I give you I bow down to you for bringing bring a part of that that Juju and save us both for your wonderful Journeys thank you both for sharing through you know mediums like this thank you yes I did now we get into their she finds him she believes he’s the finder of the Sacred finder of lost children that the chosen one and he said Urban Dynamic with the kids playing basketball with and he thinks she’s crazy because she’s telling him he’s the chosen one he needs to go to bed to rescue a child thinks he’s smoking Scrolls or he thinks she’s smoking skulls and plays with her scroll that is like the prophecy and heroes it up like a joint and makes fun of her for having smoked it and says Topps rookie scrub yeah I don’t know maybe Hollywood at this time felt like Eddie Murphy was going to bring this to the you know the Blockbuster and it’s interesting you know the way Americans will bring up other cultures you know but also prioritize maybe things that we care about our culture it’s just interesting the cultural play but I guess they couldn’t be one story without the other apps maybe in the trees and maybe even to this day it doesn’t even happen where you know cultures are appreciated for what they are not made fun of you know and juxtaposition but yeah I seen this though happened in the 80s you know I wouldn’t have thought that there would be a movie like this at all I know it’s really a great movie that I ended up enjoying it a lot and I do think Eddie Murphy yeah I can imagine it without him it just it is so magical he just I think about the movies that that you can just feel it it’s a it’s a pass no pass on the magic test for for all films I thinking and this one it just Mi hours it’s kind of like a lost boys to say comedy and horror and vampire and she saw work but so this is now we’re going to see some fast and stuff so they are investigating this crime scene he was tipped off that these that there was a young woman he was looking for The Runaway teenager kind of got into the underworld is found having been used as a blood sacrifice to pollute to try to see the The Golden Child polluted blood and they’re in this occult looks like a squad of a scooter renting this kind of disheveled house and turned it into a Black Magic Ritual complex where they’re putting looks like Sanskrit spells in the walls and and very very creepy very very heavy vibes yeah it’s like black country graffiti it’s so funny because I mean you know even you know what the oatmeal hell this stuff will look at it and be like there’s something very visceral to me about it yeah I agree that’s it to me to the oatmeal really gross me I did look corny in a little bit and then you don’t want to explain a little bit later that it’s to put basically poison the child I thought it was specifically there has to be this writing has to surround the child and then they have to like ingest things and that’s how you diminish the prices vary it just seems like it came from probably inaccurate source of whatever this this tradition is or this yeah yeah I totally I know I was really sitting there thinking to myself well what where was the black what source material were they Consulting with because it is I think it’s creepy because I feel like there’s some accuracy you know to to what might have been written or passed down through oral lineages or you know something like that when it comes to black tan talking about somebody somebody with a real scholar that they must have consulted with in a probably a lot to interview them at some point someday if I would get to this podcast to the point where I have the ability to maybe not Joe Rogan status but a piece to the point where I can talk to people who has agents and things and a lot of these writers they’re pretty obscure it’s not like they’re going to be need to get to a million assistance to find them in all of these writers were just in The Hired Guns and Things so would love to get them on here but this is a great seeing where he’s really now having to Grapple with the occult and the skepticism of the otherworldly demonology that she’s bring to him very seriously so he’s just making sure that we’ve been through this deadpan but he has to just block everything that she’s saying and she has to just kind of like roll with the punches and hang in there did any of you like watch this and think of Donkey from Shrek sometimes like you need documents I look at it and think of his role as donkey and every movie okay so no she’s got him semi on board at least to make a few meetings visit some people to try to try to win him over that he’s the gold that he’s the the chosen one and the golden child must be rescued by hand The Chosen One according to scripture to help she wants to introduce him to some some folks some authentic folks who are going to help him get the picture and and so they’re going to this like a herbal store like a Medicine Shoppe and he’s going to meet this half dragon half human lady who was who’s very erotic and very very interesting absolutely said I love her but her story makes me a little sad though I do a little bit later I don’t want to I don’t want to lose the moment they have a quite a mix of different esoteric parts of different cultures so this is Chinese folklore there’s a combination happening here because there’s a lot of overlap right so with another guy you’re going to find them in South Asia so they can be especially in Nepal Tibet there is talk of them in China and also in Thailand and I believe in Bali as well we see variations of the lure of the Naga people which usually it’s interesting you’ll find good and bad right with naga in this case it sounds like the Naga they’re referring to our not-so-nice especially when we talked about the ancestry and how her lineage became part Naga because her was her grandmother that was raped by a dragon I think is part of the story so yeah so you know there are there is a lot of folklore about the not being good and then in Buddhism we do come across a lot of still some really interesting stuff weather connected to wisdom and wisdom bearing there’s a very well-known Naga Faker call Naga Kanya and she is an enlightened being who is a wizard bear but there is a lot of folklore just as equally about dog of people being you know the offense not behaving like a wisdom bear necessarily like they’re angry so they’re definitely walking through Chinatown right now so that was probably just within the range like you said if the overlap of different people mess up together representing all the different coaches there I think we missed a funny line where was looking at one of the preparations and he asked what it is and he says something you know he just died I’m not going to butcher that the word he says what he says good herb is good to keep the Yang up and he goes nothing wrong with my yang totally app for anyone who is doing erectile dysfunction herbal preparations for Tantra you know therapist and counselors you know this dick is Eddie Murphy dick joke about cheese in the middle movie so odd to me because there’s a lot of pain medicine that does deal with erectile dysfunction in a sexual performance talking about just this aspect of you know we can look at cultures up to a certain extent it after that they’re kind of their to me you know not comprehended but rather sometimes people just make fun of them I was just having a talk with somebody on this week this weekend about it about that but the sad fact is up to what extent do we the society allow cultures to really know provide what they have to offer you know especially religious practices so there’s a lot we still want to see happen with that right but I digress but I mean yes we we do have a long way to go I think still was true acceptance and understanding and curiosity I think that’s the major part all right so we’re catching up on a few things thank you yet for for sharing that and kitchen history he was he left that place and then he tried to invite her up to his place and it failed like it landed he landed on his ass with that it’s him and and she was very cold cold blooded when he asked again if she said no twice and then he pulled this act of trying to act like he was possessed by the spirits to tell her that you should go up there so it’s definitely like it’s sad because that’s like quintessentially what all of the country trucker earape artist guys do is like oh I am the spirit I’m the Divine Shiva and I’m channeling you know your instructions to there’s guys she will charge women thousands of dollars for their blowjob Enlightenment courses and so that’s like where that all starts but appreciate you know she’s like she’s really better boundaries we love to happen but it didn’t in the movie I was expecting that cuz I don’t know you know Ben we’ll get there we’ll definitely get there like the though they don’t be a I love to see that the XXX version but but that happens it happens in his dream though it’s funny he has that will get there but so now they’re there at this 441 some of these these black magic gun guys are basically they’re tuned in to what’s going on in there will do they have like a hideout now in La where they’ve taken a child to the US and now they’re doing this desecrated geometry later they could just hang out where they’ve set up multiple meditators who have this sort of triangulation of energy to basically block out his ability to astral project so he had he or she he or she that The Golden Child the golden kid is able to see and understand also telekinetic so meditating and praying to knock over that bullet blood being like that’s a nice look they got an expression yeah give me a break you’re not going to poison me I’m smarter than all you guys and waiting for one of them to fall asleep just stirring do all this the CIA black-ops MacGyver stuff and then also eating this sacred Leaf that’s nourishing and must based on some scriptures about how you could be meditating forever and only subsist off of like pot leaves and things so like the sunlight but are the the other and then a little bit of vegetation right just just to sustain oneself no one of the evil meditators fell asleep on the job and then like the CL is broken and now the opportunity to astral project and to commune with Eddie Murphy the chosen one is going to create this difficulty for him to to shake the mysticism off and so the the glowing orb emerges and he can see the what do you thinks is maybe a dream but he basically was stirred up to go and see this I think very good effects for the time for sure it’s a see you in the astral projection and I will tell you that there was a time when not to get too personal but I had the same exact experience of you appearing to me and the middle of the night as an apparition and within seconds I got a text message I got a message from you on Facebook and it was experience that’s so cool naturally you know that. Your sis. Power start to arrive to help stabilize that energy so it’s pretty much a magical thing is pretty amazing and so I have this part in my book about you know how to really heal yourself from what you thought maybe of you know how house Gary masculine energy might be some time I’m sure there are practices that really going to that and yeah that’s really a good part of my work you because oh man I mean we are in need of some major balance here on this planet and in this life in this world I so I really feel the more that we can Embrace anybody and I’m leaning to the feminine that is rising right now the more we can scan with that the more that we can make space for on the masculine to heal and balance and I want to say like rice but like because it has risen it in excess right but balance in such a way that it kind of comes down to meet the feminine so that this beautiful kind of dance can emerge in more Harmony and that would just make such a huge total impact and he just within the body the container of one individual body being able to fuse and merge those energies is so powerful yeah I’m really glad you what I do awesome guy and I can say from experience from the first couple of experiences and session work that I experienced with you then I really got I was able to feel the force you know that if we’re going to be using that Jedi archetype you know and in there if you want to call Kundalini Shakti goddess energy which is I love calling I love I love hearing of Kundalini as a salmon in force and you were the one who activated that for me and it was just very Seadrill yeah I remember like it was yesterday and so I appreciate it getting you you can get really philosophical and really theoretical but grounding everything into practices to make it as a workbook almost it sounds like this is amazing so you and it’s something that has to be felt in the body to really know what it is yeah it’s hard it’s hard to find words nothing will thank you for all that great work do you feel kind of complete as in that in this kind of brief introduction but but pretty I think it’s a pretty good overview I definitely thrilled to to go deeper with it and others will be as well so I wanted to give the bulk of this episode to this important news of promoting and getting the word out about the book and then but also address questions that I’ve had as a sort of I’ve become a sort of meta Godparent to a lot of different mothers who were rebranding as independent mothers who are in various stages of Court battles with baby daddies for custody and for child support and and I’ve just checking on this sort of I decided I’m not going to reproduce biologically all of my vasectomy but I will reproduce culturally by my being short playing that that more of a Shimano roll in peace and also keeping a little bit of distance from that that this is a an ancient sword of time tree thing of if you are not to be the guru per se but to be an Adept you may have to disengage from householding because there’s just so much mundane kind of learning and things you got to sit through so your country path is always going to be kind of a balancing act between how much of a household are you going to be and what roles are going to have within a community and then how far out you get to go on your own into your mystical practices so I have taken that past of offsetting my my familial obligations a bit so that I could study things from afar and then just go to be this force of will hopefully an Angelic sort of force supporting women who are in different degrees of Crisis that’s just a little bit of a of a context for why it’s important for me now to reconnect with you in a n n learn from you and share your teachings about Tantra parenting the pattern that has been emerging in the question is being asked of me and the view is is how does a woman who has just recently given birth and going through all these different chemical changes and hormonal changes how do you what’s the advice on keeping that spark of love and attraction alive with the baby daddy partner what are some some tricks and tips that you would recommend for for that really critical bonding you know six segments of Life first of all I’m not going to lie. I think the first thing to do is I mean really too kind of except that it’s not going to be the same but. It’s actually you know like I said with you know what having kids how you’re able to look at the things that really matter to you that was so when you actually are with your partner and you have those moments you know they might be less but we are going to be amazing because you are fully present and you’re showing up each moment you know and the end of a lot of for me it’s like when I first became a mom so I had my first son and it was really hard I was just like what cuz I was Dino stole so focused on your child and really wanted to be there to nurture that I and you are you know you’re you’re so deep into it into motherhood and it’s so new everything is so new and exciting and exhausting but I am in a few months I was just like oh my gosh like how how does this work how do we make this work and it was really really difficult very difficult but I found that by you know because I’ve had my kids almost 8 years now until I found that really what we eat sometimes you know if if we need to say like make an appointment with each other and that’s what we have to do if we have to put it on the calendar they okay these are the the two or the three days a week that were scheduling for ourselves for intimacy for connection then that’s we’re going to do that first there was a struggle because my husband’s like okay this isn’t sexy yo after he got over that initial thing it was like okay like we can do this we can make time for this we can we can be intentional about it for us really had to do that because not only was it you know hard navigating with kids now but also the work you know work in the balance of that it was just really tough so that was one of the things that we did the other thing that I want to say is that sometimes you know you you have good intentions but I got at the end of the day you’re exhausted and and then you just end up wanting to just sit there and whatever you want to do watch TV or you know just go to bed until I always like to say that really if you really want to keep that sparked going not to give up just because you feel like okay you know I don’t have that energy right now or I don’t have the time to put into this right now to really see and used Contra in a way that it’s really meant to be experienced right because Todd’s are really isn’t just all about sex right and having that fat set spark Tundra is it much deeper than that and so sometimes you have to tell yourself like okay even though we don’t have time to make love right now maybe maybe it’s just about lying down next to each other synchronizing out of breath making that I contact I’m falling asleep to that I’m letting that be enough you know before you know this night or this week or whatever it is like in the beginning it’s not to really put so much pressure on yourself but to use Simple practice is like you know that you have your own position and just sitting there together and being or maybe you know it’s one night you really need a massage right now you know I really just after having a long day or a long week and be with the kids so much that’s what I really need so communicating that to your partner and really staying in touch with that and not being embarrassed or not feeling like it’s too much or too much of a burden or whatever it is just really being clear about what you deeply need I’m in a lot of that comes down to really checking in you know with yourself all the time and seeing what’s there I really feel like things like that even though you know you might be cuz it’s also self-care right so you’re able to connect with your partner in that way and then you’re also able to have that time must be nurtured and a slowing down which is also key so I think everyone is going to work differently and it’s going to be unique for all of us but it’s really about finding those opportunities to stay consistent to really stay connected in those small tangible ways and mlc really accepting that it’s okay that you know your relationship has changed the amount of time might be able to have to devote to one another Soul has changed I’m not true but you can actually take all that and evolve it into something in a lot of cases that really goes much deeper than that you know because now it’s it’s amazing you know you have this this connection and you know going through motherhood and Emma strikes that that gives you time to actually be able to take that foundation and that strength and that those nurturing abilities and that expression being able to use that with your partner in your relationship I’m having that Foundation really can make me very powerful in a way that’s unexpected just as amazing as you always bring it back to the fundamentals of the practices this is not all hot air to talk about it tell about doing it doing the work and I just feel like it makes me think that I can think of I mean I know some couples will have the foresight to at least make prenuptial agreement but I can’t think of anyone who they actually said we are going to go through the most insane trans transformation of everything we know we can if its first time parents who have no clue what to expect and they and what if they were to get these to be the eye of a storm throughout anyting that’s the Abbey unless Ty gazing the synchronized breathing you can’t touch that space with anything so but but pure Bliss and whatever does need to get work through if it’s done in that space it’s going to be conscious it’s going to be a constructive and it’s going to be a firming so I feel like it’s the what I’m hearing you say and what diarrhea firm is two people listening if you were expecting and you want to keep this container of love together and ever strengthening then start doing his practices now and know that you’re going to really rely on them it’s going to be life-and-death okay we’re just going there so I can breed all right like can’t we just do that let’s just do that next week or let’s just all of that I mean once you start doing it and engaging and you feel that present in your body and the Net Connection you have to just trust that all of that and all of that adds up and all of that makes a difference in your relationship every moment of that that time that you have on to be able to connect in that way as powerful well thank you again for bringing it back to to those core practices again you could have a lot of compliments sure there’s a million complicated bits of advice that people could give for this but this is so practical and and I just I dare people could really do it in and I don’t think you can fail you know I don’t think it’s possible to fail if you have good intentions and you do the scratches so yeah so we were getting also to your kind of making a perfect segue to the next question which is more more about the the asymmetry of responsibility and Duty specially for breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be carried to full-term and whatnot it’s it’s like there’s such a the mail investment just as how I always make this joke there probably less violence in the world is men had to breastfeed but women actually held the babies in their room still so imagine that you wouldn’t be off to go into war and using weapons and guns and swords that she had breastfeeding on demand for whatever after 5 years income that would be great that leaves man with such an unfair and balance of freedom and privilege to not be bound to the those tasks so a lot of women are rightfully lamenting this sensitive of the men who are supposed to be there showing up to with the with the mother is hoping for is that yeah he’s going to go to work and put food on the table and make it so I don’t have to work hopefully or I can work you know in a way that I can still be involved in my children’s lives you know for God’s sake you know who something something not just not just the short maternity leave remind me that the CEO of YouTube is a yogini who is Hardcore advocate for way longer maternity leave or something yeah I didn’t know that I’ll send you a link to a video where it where you get to see that she’s actually really badass them she’s a fierce that ass woman who’s awake I have no idea how did you navigate and how do you recommend for women who maybe don’t have is as blessed of a of a beloved Fixer-Upper type type men how do you get them on board with really going the extra mile of of checking in about about the needs a mother you know mother would have if she is being assertive about her knees in about the new suicide where she would like how can you be humbled to her and just be asking and showing up to being serviced that’s a question that’s a really great question and I have to say that I’m really fortunate with Eric because he I mean he has just him and he is just been a tremendous support from the beginning but then at the same time it’s like I also have to do my part with him right of being very clear about I need you no because then it that this always with him you know in the beginning of special rub up against this when he just wouldn’t know you know and I would be just waiting silently expecting something but he wouldn’t really know that that was what exactly I was looking for right because for women it’s like having that ability to breastfeed and nurture and carry this baby. Room I mean just how we have those abilities so readily at hand and we know what we need sometimes it’s hard to say yeah I need this actually it sometimes it’s hard because where we can be so strong you know and we can put off the 15 so strong and like we have everything together and I know that I do that a lot of time where I’m just like yep I’m good I don’t need help I look what I’m doing all by myself I’m doing all these amazing but that really inside I’m like oh my gosh like what am I I can’t do all this by myself and just allowing your partner that opportunity like okay like this is really what I need and this is the support that I need and this is how I feel going through that and not being afraid to say I am overwhelmed right now you know and and can you please and saying this from a place of love right not from a place that judgment and like what are you doing for me and you know resenting that you know you have more freedom than me and Bubba blah and I’m here breastfeeding or whatever it is not doing it from that place but from you know from your center from a place of love like I’m I’m really overwhelmed I need help with this right now you know can you get up be up with a baby now for two hours because I only had 3 hours of sleep last night instead of just silently you know doing in that moment when you feel I mean I I just I know a lot of of moms and a lot of friends who dust will just be like okay well he didn’t you know my partner my spouse he didn’t step up and so I had to do it and then my will but did you say something and they’re like no or maybe they did say something but you know it wasn’t from that place you know of just clear intentional loving vulnerable until. I think that was one of the biggest things for me especially you know when our relationship I’m like okay and then you know my husband tries to tell me like he’s Eichler like he’s like really I want to be able to show up for you like I want to be strong for you I want you to feel good but he’s like I honestly don’t I just need to to hear it I just sometimes I need to be told or I need to be reminded because it doesn’t come as naturally to me and then show me be mindful of that and not you know not falling to being hurtful or resentful something makes me cute different do you know well that’s really really profound that that really gets to the hardest exactly what I’m seeing go wrong inside once at once that slippery slope really hard I mean it’s kids once this thing start to add up then breaking through that you’re really. It’s really snowballing and that’s your thing everything is this Noble thing I’ve seen it yet so that is great advice I think that work that I said the fly to something if x is kind of ridiculous that it reminds me of I remember seeing young young women and whatever middle school or high school and home home economics class and they will be given an assignment to have a baby doll with them for whatever and in that relationship it’s like okay honey we’re going to do what it’s going to feel like for me to be busy and need help from you and you put in your garden that would be funny if it decided to give people that sensitivity at sensitivity training cuz once it’s already ratchet up and then more expenses than what I’m seeing to notice let me know way more than I do but it’s like I don’t think I think people underestimate the cost of of multiple visits to the pediatrician a week you know it’s like figuring out food allergies and decoding the sugar all of the ways that sugar is is is surreptitiously inserted into packaged food and just it’s such a pill battle to be holistic and to be in at all so it’s just this this is all in on top of just I mean most people are just buying everything off the shelf from entertainment to toys to food to diapers and whatever it is it’s all just off the shelf but to have that effect of wanting to do better than the last Generations or to resist the marketing and be more green or whatever that’s a whole another layer of the building so you know it’s just to get more and more complicated and at the end of the day I see the women just getting ran ragged and the dudes just kind of blowing him off sadly to say but if we could he had say that actually kind of Segways a bit to another question which is and this I mean you could you could write a whole book just on this subject alone out so I don’t expect you to to go too far into it but maybe just some off the top of your head pointers and we can move along quick to know we’re getting close on time so so any suggestions for creative and educational and non-toxic toys just a few maybe went to one website or one store just don’t know anything I don’t know if I’d be the best person to ask about that because I not that they have a choice in general just because you know like all the plastic and everything I mean and we like literally their toys are like one corner of our house like a couple of containers and that’s it and they barely even play them to be honest with you I feel like the simpler the better you know I feel like I’m all about like art you know art projects you know the pain and the crayons and all the art supplies and things like that so that they can enhance their minds and use their hands that way and explore that way they’re into that but I found that you know the purchases that I made with toys throughout the years it’s like that use it and then they’re done and that’s like a big hunk of plastic sitting there are biodegradable and Wooden Spoons and then they’d be busy for 2 or 3 hours you know that they have gotten that I get them they’re like okay and then they open it and then they look at it for 10 minutes and then I end up you know it’s just a way so yes so we do more we like to do more stuff you know in nature I mean they like to play you know what they say they love gospel they love being outdoors they love Ari and they love puzzles and things like that so that’s why I hope that I hope and pray that we will all have abundant opportunities to being healthy natural environments and have plenty of more outdoor time the better cuz there’s some nature is like endless you know just being outside they’re like so fascinated by every little thing the backyard I don’t know it exactly how I like how did the people survived all of those many years ago without these big pieces of plastic and well that is exactly what I thought I hope to hear in and a very firm it if so this is another test of the last one here is probably the the most kind of universal so I don’t know if there is an answer to this question however I died would like to spend I would like to spend my golden years doing a lot more anthropological research on on foraging sigala Terry and societies before you spell hunter-gatherer societies who have basically none of the the neurotic issues that people in the modern world have and and I love to know I would like to believe that there is that there was a golden age of human Innocents where the terrible twos didn’t exist and then that we could decode that and figure out what is it more nurturing Less Talk toxins I mean is it just that there’s so much overstimulation and so many maybe you’re actually able to perceive carcinogens at that age and then you stopped being able to and that’s why I mean it could be anything less or I could just sent them know something very out of balance that’s just modern so I’m just wondering if you have if you were really idealistic about know I’m going to teach there going to be a master Yogi’s by the age of one so that the terrible twos happen though I already beat exam enough I don’t know why you if you were like I don’t know like tell me what that’s been like for you and then if you have advice for people who are in that approaching that Horizon will for me I really I really just try to go with the flow you know just so I’ll talk to style just like accepting every part of it I was just part of the the beautiful messy process of development and growth and exploration and sometimes I do know because otherwise then it’s just become so hard you know what I’m saying because you expect it is you’re going to have meltdowns right it’s not it’s not going to be easy is there at like going to be some very tough days especially in the beginning if it’s going to be hard you feel like what what am I what did I get myself into one of my hairdo evaporate the next moment you know you’re going to feel the most joy and Bliss and happiness that you ever felt like wow that’s amazing that I get to be a part of this process you know that I get to witness this human being growing and developing and it’s it’s just amazing so it’s really you know you know the whole ton truck idea of a flowing through those energy that accepting every moment no matter how chaotic and allowing those emotions and those feelings and those moments to move to you during this challenging time to witness in you know children and young children because it’s like they can like be so happy in one moment and literally within five seconds that can beat me on the floor it’s crazy right it’s like oh my gosh the wide array of emotions from moment to moment and not inhibit that till I I feel like you know it’s like wow for me initially seen that in the beginning and fidget with night was my first one and that you can just move so fluidly like this and just just like that and get so consumed by something else in another moment we just amazing to me so I think we can really take a lot of sign a lot of lessons and just being present at something to a Full Circle closed right now because what I am even before you started to reply that lesson for grown-ups really about about cycling through your full expression and not choking your body is response to a situation out and the full the full body response to a situation I was actually remember me on my phone while I remember a room full of adults it you and Eric’s condo and we were being instructed to behave like children having a tantrum so that we can feel good and actually know the nice that storm there’s like the sun and the blue sky and in the EXO baekhyun the funny faces and doing the monster dance and some just like well you’re probably realizing hits are the times of the exactly yeah it’s it’s pretty amazing to witness is there a word for like reverse parenting or something has got to be a word for the the the from children actually teaching adults what they’re forgetting and I didn’t mean well that’s really it’s a really heartwarming conversation and I feel like the people who are hearing this and who have experienced so much pain and distress that there is such a open source free to use to spend your own time studying it get this book read the book watch Roadies videos I certainly considered to be the highest resource that I like to share with folks because of the same reason they listen before adjusters I don’t feel like there is a knot a snake-oil aspect of what you’re selling and there’s not a sort of a shady ulterior motive saying a gender that I have to worry about and and I just can’t say that about that many people until I’m sure you know and I certainly feel for myself that you know I have I always want to be deferring is often as possible to sort of protect my Integrity to not be the what do they call it like the god cock Shaman is just a narcissistic people’s souls and that’s easy enough to it’s easier to take that route of that that black timeshare manipulate manipulate almost hard not to do it so I mean I’m making and I feel like we are making major effort cuz that’s the complete opposite of what you are and what you and body I mean from the very beginning so yeah no thank you I really feel like you are just I mean somebody who’s just really in there doing that you’re like doing the work you know and you like do it like with an open heart you’re just like in there and you’re talking to everybody and just creating this just really amazing platform. You should be really proud of well thank you again and again I have to say you helped start at all and one of my the first real social proof that I had was that was your gracious licensing of me to share some of the video work that we did together it’s been a blessing that go into detail but all that in that in that previous episode supposed to listen of that and I will say that we we were blessed and burden in this in this time of this episode to take to cover a good intro to the book and also to open this discussion about time to Parenting I definitely want to set the intention that in the future we will give more of a of a deep dive into your personal background and it sort of will let that be a cliffhanger to hear about your experiences early introduction of Tantra and just kind of the got your path of building that confidence and certainly the form give experience Syfy oh my God it all yeah we haven’t got into your filmography either still be there next time to say this for next time to talk about birth because yes I mean not as deep and my experience naturally delivering and doing it with Tantra as my Foundation is the only way that I said I survived it and actually enjoyed it. Arrington have the complete box set free thank you so much thank you so much for having me it was really great and most richest time in in a moment to to share this Basin and certainly yeah it’s it’s a got it just give you a big big bow down because this you were the one who helped me start this this whole journey I don’t know I don’t know who I’d be or where I’d be doing it if we didn’t have a Meeting of Minds you know so yeah I can’t believe I forgot to say this I mean you were seriously you were the first one who discovered my website you were the first one who reached out to me and one of the first that I’ve actually I will say the first that I taught that I didn’t know because I had started already like teaching but like you know friends and friends of friends but you were the first clean one like the first student I was like oh wow yeah that that walked in and like was the beginning of really that Journey so thank you I did not know that I did not realize that that that’s funny so funny I can’t believe I never told you that that’s very well so everybody just like get over your awkwardness and just represent just like bring your egg and no matter what things will come out you know it’ll all fall in place to get back to the Sam and yeah I give them my love and thank them for allowing you to to do the book and for all of the people who parted the sea so that you could get that book done and then provide provide that to us and so much more thank you I know it I just want to say thank you so much for Amy what you just what you spoke about earlier just blew me away how you been stepping up to support women and you know what your mother’s I mean you are really holding for me to space there and this is really something that you know I know that would indeed and you know a lot of them have been longing for so thank you so much for for being that person and for filling that role cuz it’s just amazing the work that you’ve been doing all these years I thank you you planning to see each other that they were they say that it’s the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree at least in the sense of the guru to train me to be a womanizing pick up artist in the name of conscience so I guess that’s why we you know gravitated toward each other There Was You know. The little like energy so I think I don’t think you would have found that path that was not your will thank you so much again yeah so much so much good vibes and good times and we will be in touch soon and and best of luck with all of your your your book emotional adventurous okay great thank you so much fun. Country Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple provide ketologic employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Township Park. Com Thomas gay

 

Decoding Tantric Buddhist Sacred Dance with Devika the Techy Tantrika TPP201

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In this episode I’m joined again by Devika the Techy Tantrika, this time for an epic exploration of the theology, philosophy, history, and practical applications of sacred dance from a Tantric Buddhist perspective. We shared a beautiful experience together during a sacred dance training retreat in Portland, OR several years ago and I’d been wanting to do a recap with her on her experience. She has a deep and rich background in sacred dance,  tantric buddhism, and yogini mysticism and it’s a treasure to hear her elaborate on the teachings we received while at the Dance Mandal temple. It was a life changing experience which led to my discovery of Vajra yoginis, and Khroda Kali in particular who I resonate with. My track Wrathful Dakini is a devotional hymn which was based on my revelatory experiences surrounding this chapter of my life.

We compare notes from the dance training retreat and comment on the relevance of traditional teachers and classical studies in tantra and all spiritual paths.

We also discuss the modern intersection of sexiness, sex witches, social media, and her research project: https://witchactivism.carrd.co/.

About Devika:

Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.

You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika

Follow her Instagram at:
http://www.instagram.com/thetechytantrika

You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 2 0 1 game join Again by devika the country Qatar and I wouldn’t have done a couple episodes so far in the past one all about open-source sexuality another one all about keeps Rising sex work policy and so we have been talking a lot about motive the modern synthesis and assimilation of classical time show with Neo Tantra and check and what not. It’s just fun and exciting intersection is just been crazy to go back and listen to those shows this time we’re going to get into a really fine or kind of personalized description of somewhat Memoirs where we first met in person at the at the dance Mondo Maple Leaves tantric Buddhist sacred Dance Training temple in syrtis I’m very authentic true to form goddess Temple that really for me was profound in many ways mostly in that it was a revelation for me to see that there is living breathing devotional goddess Temple Buddhism where there’s more than just the multiple genders of DVDs are our honored and respected and worship and field practice where you might not you might not be exposed to that otherwise so I’m extremely grateful for did you get for inviting me to that to this weekend Dance Training Retreat which was kind of like my my Karate Kid training with the master in and stealing KY Lake you know maybe I don’t think I need my black belt but I probably probably got at least one built you know up some starting a house from scratch but along the way of me making a complete ass of myself as the only male would be initiated you know I will see you in background so they can just like this to water from his Jimmy awkward but I survived and I learned a lot and not only in the dance but also in these these meditation Temple lecture philosophy lectures that were given and also we had free reign of this one of the most explicit libraries of collections of books devoted to John Travolta times and so there’s some gems that that I discovered there but you know don’t take my word for it I love to just take this opportunity to have if you can her perspective on that experience in some gaps in my understanding and knowledge because to bring this into the ultimate context it is that that experience led to me producing a track called Rascal that King and I’ll get into that at some point later but basically a Revelations that I’ve had what I felt to be direct Union direct communication with and since then really this track which is a devotional him that uses it and in vocational Mantra as the sort of part of it every time I sing that and with all my heart than she appears and I see her the way that she is you know in a and it in the way that she is symbolically to pick it in the in the art form the classical art form of what’s called who is called crota Kali who is one of the disorder than a police terkini kind of archetypes which Gerald got his students like one of those I’m building my collection of having experiences and then having a toy on my wall I’ll make a track and that track will be my sort of them my Memoir or my Elemento this is way more this is a huge opportunity for me to kind of have you bringing your perspective on on that that experience that we shared there and also bring in some of your more highly developed awareness of the permutations of Buddhism and Tantra and also yeah they just tell us that be great to hear about what brought you to the discovery of that Temple because obviously the story goes back as far as to where you were you know enchanted with their work so that was enough for me. Thank you so much been yes cuz he mentioned I’m devika the ticket on sweetie, I’m so glad that you made this our topic today been just because that’s when those of the extremely unique temple in Portland Oregon and try to swallow who is the dance teacher the primary dance teacher there was our teacher that weekend and he’s been training and Talia make sure you tell sorry since he was a young child so that was in his his lineage for a long time and for me I’ve always been play training quite a bit and vajrayana Buddhist lineages cuz I had to start at my own silent meditation practice I think about on 2007/2008 but Tibetan lineage of always been significant to me because anybody who studies Buddhist studies or you know I’m has a pretty good understanding of a variety of different Buddhist lineage has Bill noticed that a lot of the deities in tibetan and Nepalese certain Nibbley’s lineages don’t really necessarily have presidents are really significant Presence at all in other lineages so you know like the dakinis are seeing a lot you see if I join your guinea is a dominant The Keeney there’s also no preserved and venerated in the in the stands lineage you and I went to training and just like with any veneration or worship of these dakinis is usually requires a lot of Advanced Techniques a lot of persistent training because the dakinis are definitely I always think of them as more intermediary or you know you’d rather just because they’re not really have to be really specific with how you worship and worship them because they can be kind of tricksters in certain ways but they can also also need a lot more respect I think like there’s a lot of benevolent like happy DD’s and then you kind of work up to bother you again other Tiki knees and the kids are wisdom Bears they’re not the really I don’t know if you could say that a surly you know putting some situations where they have to really be as forgiving perhaps they expect I think a lot of a lot of practice in a lot of patients in a lot of determination from those who are who are and worship up they are very much like Kali from the Hindu Hindu spiritual lineage has just because you have to have a certain amount of practice with them you have to have a certain amount of respect them are they able to teach you a lot but if you are not open to learning those lessons you will not get them and sometimes you know like do your lessons by, in ways that look for a coke bad or negative in your life but a trained practitioner or train student even would have the tools to help them kind of navigate those lessons and not to say that the lesson still won’t be hard it’s just that you need to have a certain amount of prerequisite I guess in a way that certain amount of information in order to work with those DVDs in order to really get not just what would be helpful to you both would have also be helpful in respect to them and reminds me of an of what you were saying earlier about you know once a DVD shows up to you if I tell you something that of great assistance you obviously not understand that it’s reciprocal and you get back to that TD and your veneration and respected them so these DVDs are not like practice DVDs are like this introductory DD’s they need they definitely need a certain level of practice and respect and information on behalf of the students are also just not going to get as much out of it either I guess I’ve heard of so many people just want to jump right to DD’s like this in various lineages and a lot of people will caution them and say that you really need to understand the foundational aspects of the practice you’re looking at before you work with them but it really comes down to what people are after like they’re looking for quick fixes or even like something like power or you know something just really just deals mostly with our Earthly realm they’re not going to the store they get what they want or they might get what they want for the beginning but there’s always a price to pay like and you can’t have you know you can’t have an action without a reaction if you’re not setting up the foundation of something properly you’re not setting it up on a you know they’re setting up his Queen on the shaky Foundation at that point and things don’t go too well when you build them on a shaky foundation so I would definitely you know suggest anybody who does want to learn sacred dance forms to look for a proper New Groove for that and Venture for us just make sure they’re taking the proper steps for me I’ve always because of my love for Tibetan Buddhist lineages I really loved my experience at that spent all my hope to go back you know again in the future you know for something similar to what you and I had conferred then I don’t live on the west coast anymore unfortunately but I’m sure I’ll make it back there again it was a beautiful time. Really they just they found such an amazing job with that that’s him pulling the practices that they adhere to their arms it’s certainly is unique and lovely did yeah so thank you for giving that discourse on this parallel and treachery really had no approaching these purses with the wrong attitude or without due diligence and I think my modern check a metaphor that comes to mind is actually I’ve been thinking about this ready contacts but this is this is really right now which is it there’s I think people who approached spirituality as from The New Age kind of Neo perspective of not not really I say beating her asparagus before they eat their ice cream like they want they want to jump right to everything that’s possible and skip over the shadow work but the the more traditional approach would beat you really confront you or your Shadow true the help of the duties that are going to we’re going to help you do that and you know that that is really up for what I’m doing with in my Modern Life sandwich lot of people are just like me they need to do to audit your security and to do penetration testing and to hire hackers to actually try to break into your systems to see what your vulnerabilities are so that you can fix them before real shit hits the fan win some you know and they don’t give you the full report they actually just take everything take your intellectual ransomware your your machines and Edward have a persistent intrusion into your network that you don’t know about until years later when everything that you held dear and sacred was this compromise so that’s that’s how I feel like that if you if you’re afraid of that you’re setting yourself up for ultimate disaster in the future if you’re not willing to approach that Duty with respect you know of those duties you have the potential to print like really sucking hand your ass to you you’re not going to call the spiritual bug bounty system I have another another pun play on words to add to that but but I’ll let you finish okay well yeah it’s it’s from that shamanic perspective of some sort of delousing your soul by removing parasites and I feel like a bug Bounty is even more apps because they would be removing those pests from your soul and all that her that you’re unaware of that are causing you to you know make mistakes in your karmic development so yeah so with that said do you want to talk about now just kind of give people the the play-by-play of we arrive there and do you want to give you a recollection of the the kind of syllabus and of course outline and what what what I experienced was there and what you’re you’re sure I’m just trying to think of it wasn’t that a time ago not going to lie I was a bit of time guys from perfect feeling very magical and just really appreciating it cuz it’s you know what the time I was a fusion belly dancer and I still love dance it’s just you know I had suffered a back injury sometime much time after but I’m just grateful that I at least had that experience the Savannah what that’s meant I’ll be for all that zinnias happens later but you know it is what it is but in terms of doing that Workshop they were so gracious you know they gave us a really great we know we’re right out and see a step-by-step you know the monster has instructions I still have I still loved my portfolio that they gave me like you know I still had a lot and I just I’ve always been very enthusiastic about using the body and worship with dance in expressions of arch just because I always felt like art is about Creative Energy the sacral chakra is about sexual energy and create an anonymous right they are one of the savings people tend to forget that or not really put that together so I always am very enthusiastic about what time you know really creative positive ways of using the body and worship and the style of dance really loud. So do you still have your do you still have your folder from there I do somewhere and I started to look for it but I did I really want to find it because I want to I wanted to be able to I mean I don’t know if you have it handy or if not then we can just going to go from memory but now it rain in front of me but I mean I guess I’ll be glad to do some scanning later so that you can have copy call me buried in somewhere but I really appreciated about that weekend was that possible did start looking into the voucher Eugenie dance ceremony with all so what was amazing as he took us through you know the Preparatory dance which is about paying homage to the DD’s you know and it within the Buddhist contacts before you begin your dance and that he taught us the hand with rose that go with the dances as well which are so important in like a lot of like a lot of Asian dance styles likes you a lot of traditional dance styles this dance tells a story it’s not just the person embodying the DAT in human form sort of so to speak but also if you listen to that at least you know if you don’t understand them on to us but you look at the translations and if you look at what each moves from means and what each motion means it’s all telling a story so that’s beautiful to me I just it was very you know incredible and the fact that we got to look at the photo you can anyone know that’s a lot to me because I was a big part of also why I went there and seen it on YouTube and I understood the even though I was very interested in that dance I knew that we met your most likely not go there necessarily because that is an advanced dance for all the reasons I had previously mentioned about working with dakinis events duties of your guinea but it was really amazing that we actually got to you know try that out and really talk to those who have performed that dance that weekend was so short to me like I just wish you could have stayed there so much longer is really amazing but yeah I’d like the fact that I let me remind you I grew up with folk dances like her up just you know what an absolute Fascination for it so learning about a dance style that does this in worship and in respect of the staties that’s not easy to find that mean you do find it in Hindu Traditions there are so disloyal to do something similar but especially what we were learning that’s $1 you can’t find many teachers who teach that there’s also not very many dance styles like. I’ve heard of another one but I’ve never seen anybody teach it here at least or of the universe within within Canada or the United States so I mean there might be but I haven’t come across up and you need answers for those are any dance teachers for lineage but yeah so I would say those were the Superman highlights eat you recall anything else that really stuck out to you yeah in a few things to do very memorable and then all in complementary to to your thoughts and perspectives on this because she hasn’t much I guess I certainly Richard background in Premiere was pretty much all encountering it for the first time and so I really I think the way to the kind of transmit the experience to others at least verbally and I know you can go on YouTube and and pretty much the same the same dance that we learned I know they have at least one video that’s at least it’s pretty much like that specific sequence of movements and then we also had to learn to sing the parts that weren’t we at we were we were trained to not just learn actual poses and the sequence of the positions moving along the dance floor but actually singing the appropriate the Mantra portion of it at being every every every time we transition to another movement we’re actually seeing saying the devotional sort of launcher him about what that position really is representing and and I got think of it it’s like a 3-D lives motion to wear if you’re used to approach you are you just sitting there making I mean I don’t suggest your secondary and you’re making offerings and you’re doing gestures in your doing Luger’s but you’re just so this is like imagine being this coming good multidimensionality of the and the offering aspect of it of that the energy that you’re pouring into the the ritual that being the just night and day in terms of the difference between the seated meditative offering to Pooja and I’m spinning around and holding your arms up and just being as graceful as you could ever imagine everybody being and also that it was just beautiful so maybe if you could you know from just some of the Physicians remember I remember there was like a little drama and the big drum and offering incense and they were all basically kind of like I feel like a mime you know remind me out these emotional offerings and so from that experience well I knew I hadn’t said this earlier but I was going to say I know you said that you felt like you know a fish out of water I think it’s what you said earlier you know it wasn’t really being a dude they’re just being a guy and then he was a good teacher is a guy but it’s so cool though this type of worship or any worship I always go back to looking at who are you doing as for right it’s all the times you doing is to please a deity or you know to show appreciation respecting the really that’s all that’s asked you know of you write like to show up and to do it like when I first learned silent meditation for example my teacher would always say it never gets easier right like there’s there will always be a time where it becomes difficult but the what’s being asked to use to show off that’s the devotional part right that’s the part where even if you’re learning to do something for the first time that’s still so pivotal because you’re still doing that with that intention of federation respect and worship that’s really that really is all it’s being asked of you know set it right and I’m sure it influenced also how you’ve continued to worship right and it’s become a part of your experience in various ways they honestly that’s all often lets its really often people really in people don’t necessarily here that often or that’s not something that comes up I mean we are so used to I think it’s also speak about this from growing up you know like a lot of people in various religions they are asked to do so much but might be things that they’re not willing to do necessarily like maybe you know ask to Worship in a certain way like I mean don’t get me wrong like obviously poo just have to place a certain religions and their needed by people who really need them but I always wondered what why aren’t we teaching people these these artistic forms of worship to like I remember reading in the Hindu Pantheon there was 52 artistic expressions or skills that are considered sacred and her people to maintain and a lot of those were artistic like a lot of them were of a poetry and about dance and artistic expression and I think you know technically speaking and I’m seeing a lot of this and dance movements across the world the idea that in order to move into express yourself through your body and whatever way that you can through your body enter your mind isn’t itself but I can’t worship so I mean whether or not let’s say somebody continues with a particular sacred lineage and learn to do that dance Tyler whether they go through life and you know it’s a inspiration from these lineages but then set off and kind of do something that comes to them naturally it’s all relative it’s all important right so you know so so as I talked about this you know for example sorry I missed you may not be for a surly everybody write a lot of people might not let’s say how the Buddhist context behind them or might it might not resonate with them but there could be something else right there can always be something else for those people instead I think that’s the interesting thing about tantric practice right like there’s so many lineages making really look towards and I think I still stand behind the concept but I think there are tajuk lineages and every religion It’s just sometimes they don’t make it to the mainstream literature of those religions so you know I think when people do enough taking and hold their beliefs strong things will come to that you know like it there’s a meeting halfway that sense to happen during the person needs to keep the the principles in the pillars of their belief system close to their heart and you know I threw those pillars and I do believe that as a go long information will come to that message will come to the right forms of practice for them come to them you know it’s it’s that’s why I always say to trust your instincts like 50 people I always tell them it’s very important to learn how to trust yourself and learn from yourself and learn with your intuition and stinks look like because that’s how all of the Divine speaks to you right mind you and protist lineages the Divine in the profane are the same thing and that’s the way I see you too so I think when people create that’s Schism that also kind of friends that I don’t put them until amount of conflict because once you start looking at everything a sacred I think that’s a huge part of town tourism and it can be very hard to keep thought police in mind but I think a good teacher too and you know good foundational set of training really help since unfortunately sometime and take a people you know who emailed me and they’re like well I can’t find a teacher in my area or you know where do I learn this way this without all that from you know lineages explains that or practices AT&T because I don’t know anybody around me that says says and that’s a big part of why I decided to do online training for people like that’s why I have my own coaching program but at the same time I also understand where they’re coming from and sometimes it’s not going to come right away you just got to keep doing what you can from your end and eventually you never know what’s going to happen right but because that’s what I was saying earlier patience is a huge thing like people want results of people want answers now but that’s not always the way things are going to go that’s not always waiting for intended to go so patients in the South can be quite the lesson with your original but I know you were talking about the moon and the aspect of the mechanics and curious if you remember any of it cuz there’s a few movements that I had that all all old mansion after after you kind of give a natural fit for you or anything that you felt like you had it with mantras in motion as you’ve mentioned earlier and Irene the ones that stuck out to me or kind of similar to the ones you had mentioned earlier about like the instruments for example the certain Mutual represented let’s say things about those titi’s hold so I just so they want to say if they’re always tools but they’re like certain symbolic objects that BT’s are known to hold and we did do address to represent those as well right call really amazing and I think with a lot of these sacred lineages you are going to get a lot of enactment of you know sacred objects even animals sometimes are adornments of that signify the DD that you’re that you’re talking about is that you’re looking at not just the costuming to fix that but like I think the big thing is for me at least when I see these dance styles I think of the fact that even if that person was not wearing Me labra costume you could still tell from what they’re Universal symbolism that they’re gesturing and that they’re doing through their dads you can tell who it is at their embodying at the time I think I’m a big part of why those hundreds Rose and certain motions you know kind of really show that like for example one really cares about you use uni dance she does a lot of circular motioning to kind of signify the traveling to the sky and to the universe which is absolutely beautiful but there’s thought type of movement that was very particular and specific to that Dede because she’s a Sky Dancer right so yeah they’re really thought out and really carefully put together and not just even composed but performs and that’s why it takes so many years to learn these Stan Stylez I mean that’s also why you’d want to teach her like prajwal for example who been doing has been doing this since he was a child so yeah it is absolutely beautiful and very rare and amazing when you come across these things if you know whether the person who has been studying since they were a child or has dedicated a lot of their life to studying it it’s all amazing to see when you do get in to see the answer to that’s given their whole body to the dance it’s not just emotions cuz you see that sometimes but you don’t doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s wrong or anything but I know I personally and everything to is when people are in that stage it doesn’t mean to always be on that stage at some point I think a dancer does give all their body into it if they really stay with us you know but yeah but it’s so nice to see it when you do see that person fully embodying and fully giving themselves into it because they are they are professional they know how to do that and I know how to get out of it to write it’s like it’s like magic to me appointment I was safe for me what what was most profound about the specific movements was when he introduced the wrathful deity respective dancing in he did some demonstrations of some stuff that we didn’t actually we’re actually taught but he basically did some more you know in some of his lectures she would just break out into the accompanying dance to go along with the lecture and what not Inn in one of the things you know he was doing was acting out the wrathful basically acting out but being invoking the possession trance state of of the wrathful deity or raffle. and that so that aspect plus the aspect of something that we did learn specifically in in the dance in a very subtle form but a very elegant and subtle but very telling kind of corn was this notion of stomping and you see this in the artwork with his notion of stomping on the demons to basically Crush but with wood gray sexy you’re not you’re invoking the power of the wrathful deities and to me that is the the psychotherapeutic aspect in the the really applied sort of shamanistic aspect of it yes we’re to put in simple terms are too kind of hopefully not not butcher hit by put in my own words it’s just that you know where we’re almost like children in the sandbox of human bodies and higher level of development and what we can actually obtain him in one lifetime for most people is pretty pretty remedial relative to the grandiosity of these deities that probably live a lot longer than we do maybe have been around a lot longer and have a lot more mobility throughout the dimensions and are just wiser creatures and their kind of entertained by us and our our Folly and we would do well to choose where do I track them to our sacred spaces so that they can help us to with our issues and not only help us feel good and have health and you know abundance of things we pray for but also that they have us to have Liberation from our own foolishness and Karma is insulated things that are beyond our control and obviously all of the very nuanced forces of evil and so these are some of the few Living Traditions in the world where there’s a sun broken Pagan shamanic power that comes from your new worshiping these duties so that you could have bacon come in and really rescue you like you’re a prisoner of war Behind Enemy Lines you know I’m in that tactical perspective was what turn me on the most was this notion of like yeah you can do is dance and you’re you were basically borrowing or asking for the power to do this astral combat sort of work and so love to hear what you would say about the exact number is Dancing with the holding the hips in a certain angle and this beautiful images of the blessings were stepping backward and stopping by The Chieftains and then knowing that you can access the Rascal that would that would make you know bad guys you know one or Retreat I think if they sell you do then you’re doing that in a dark alley and they wanted to have they had their way with you or take your money or something and then you could just like bust out into this wrathful deity dance you know that they probably would will be yeah I’ll be there cue to exit stage left now the funny thing usually has a few different like you know associations with it and I mean it’s so cathartic first of all did you feel like did you feel like it was cathartic when you yeah it’s beautiful because it really reconnect you to the earth into the ground and I mean as we’re looking at this to think it’s important to realize and Buddhist lineages demons are an evil are representative of ignorance right so that goes back to was Buddhism that there’s no Duality everything is one and the idea what these DD’s if they’ve stuck around a lot of times because they’re very compassionate and they want to help people overcome ignorance so that bacon understand the true Unity of everything so when we think of D you know I think of demons and evil that’s her thing they’re all aspects of the illusion of the samsara that we exist in this world is called samsara and in Buddhism and as we’re doing these things we’re dispelling ignorance if you actually look at the story of Siddhartha the first grew at the first of the sorry it was a guru actually how you know in the way his final like in his final test he had demons coming at him it was just like really torturous listen to Star comfortable and he was sitting under the Bodhi Tree trying to just meditate what eventually be reached Enlightenment after all these tests in the past really where about Stevenson these distractions so it’s it’s interesting to me because the demons correlate with you know our obvious concerns about horrible things happening so like you no ill health poverty and disease famine everything right and this is why it takes so long to do these practices until really dedicate ourselves to these teachings because firm understandably so for many of us as humans we understand that these things are painful and we don’t want paying we want to avoid paying obviously nobody wants to hear wake up tomorrow usually and be like oh well I just want to be in pain all day you know and the only the only thing I find in Buddhism is that it acknowledges this pain and tries to help people with understanding a different way of living with it are experiencing the things in this world to like part of the wisdom of Buddhism the stock concept of yes there is pain but there is also have two ending up suffering while on this Earth while experiencing this pain so I have full appreciation for Buddhist teachers practitioners you know and everyone else between who is able to see past the illusions that we experience the moment-to-moment basis of pain and suffering and all of that and I think when we see that foot stomping and we see that sort of you know the spelling of evil I always look at it and remember remind myself as a big part of that is we are asking for the removal of the veil of ignorance and illusion we’re trying to understand how to live with the things that happen in our lives like apparently even like the Buddha after he preached Enlightenment I’ve heard and that one lineage that he had a really bad back problems still so you would never immune to like even physical suffering and stuff but he knew how to overcome it in his mind like yours and it is being so this really Buddhism when it comes down to it it’s all about perception and so how we’re living in reminds me of something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately which is how imprisonment happens within our own minds and even when we’re giving horrible circumstances Buddhism is really teach us about how to overcome the Carmine’s like there’s no guarantee that anyting long has really changed in our physical world right we we have what we have not stopped at type thing and wheel you can continue to strive to overcome those things of course but it starts with the mind and the mentality and how we perceive what we are given so I always think about these things because when we go to learn any sacred dance is always important of course as I mentioned before to understand the foundational tools prayers mantras and these kids move drugs principle Solutions you know all of these things the Theology of these practices before we go in because you don’t like what side of meditation like all of these practices I think they’re mostly beneficial to people when they understand the foundations that they came from but even just sometimes I think understanding it is one part of it but I think practicing these things before doing it is also helpful because something could the cool from the outside your cards right but I think when we get the taste of something that we like the safer for you and myself like we love this and style it can Inspire us to continue to learn about these practices and these principles and I think for anybody who is interested in anything like this or a meditation or any practice it’s good to know themselves through these practices that I can pay also definitely need to work on it not just from the dance practice or from the meditation practice they need to understand the whole kit and caboodle you know they need to really find a teacher who can teach them the principles in the foundation’s to go with these things because learning the axum self that doesn’t do the practice justice so I mentioned only because so you’re going to get a lot of people who might you know find the semi-finals practice interesting and just like people come to us with interest about tantrism but they have to understand that they’re their studies don’t start and stop at the process themselves they have to go and learn the whole thing like they really do I don’t think it’s enough just to let stay with the Kamasutra like you can’t just learn the sex positions for example and just ignore the fact that there’s a whole ton of writing in there and principles that I personally don’t agree with but let me remind you the Kama Sutra isn’t really a tantric Doctrine to be honest lot of people don’t know but you know like I think anybody who’s going to dedicate themselves to these things really need to do themselves a good service of just you know learning all of it so I’m glad you’re doing this podcast you know we’re both doing this because I think I was looking at all of these positions and we’ll talk about the monster has I hope it inspires people to look more into these lineage is especially like the vajrayana Buddhist lineages but that the stats all came from right and that this dance Auburn resents don’t know more social Moore Public kind of expression of love so much more in her work so we could see the the sort of a I mean it’s almost like the way people joke about how I made it in North America there is this tendency for white New Age speakers european-american European secrets to they want to go and they want to get their Indian name and they want to get the play one that hold the pipe and they they want to have all these very conspicuous consumption kind of trinkets that that show off their affiliation and may or may not really be based on the deepest most sincere interest in her work as soon as you’re speaking about this I think about how you know I I I casually made a reference to karate kid earlier about looking at the Karate Kid archetype of basically looking at how westerners it stored traditional practices in general and so the other the other aspect if I was the Cobra Kai School you had like basically the corrupted and ego-based and and aggressive rather than defensive Distortion that was the result of the US military Sergeant or whoever the guy Kris being like a a Vietnam War kind of super else you took the his spin on on Karate and then you get this hyper masculine toxic mask on aggressive abusive patriarchal system and I feel like there is a people who have people have horror stories of training with male just say it’s mostly you know male who were going to actually be using black magic to mine front and brainwash people and take their money and build Empires on abuse and but they will still be teaching you beautiful positions and beautiful words everything will feel and look very beautiful and he helps but you could be being totally totally scam do you know so that’s part of what I think what you’re saying is I think you did the good research and you you would position me to have that experience with cars wall and you know the teacher who is to me like the most beautiful one of the most beautiful men embodiment of the development of this is the this is the extreme potential of the development of a man’s feminine aspect and you don’t have to be you will appreciate it even if your not gay and that I think it’s like I want more I want I would love them he said also about the feel like they’re in the ancient you would be as a man very it wouldn’t be a pretty story of to be emasculated it would be a gift and you will be seeing it is so complimentary and actually help you to have that contrast but have that balance so so yeah very instructive in general but that’s close to wrapping up in something I want to highlight yeah but when I’m at one of the lecturers at Fresh wall gave the two it was a lot of really potent teachings and one of the things that stood out to me the most it was most kind of maybe the quintessential teaching of of the whole weekend and the quintessence of the path it seemed like he was using the words mudra and use the word mudra and it’s in a contest at her before that made sense if I move a posture of your you know could be your just your hands or could be your hands and or parts of the body in concert but basically you’re holding a position that is indicating a certain alignment and a certain attitude really in so that if you extrapolate that to you or your whole lifestyle and your spiritual path he said there was that you can live basically by these two options in life either the karmamudra or the German Luger and the any put it very elegantly saying that you know if you see you Wednesday in the karmamudra which is basically scratching your head at while your life is constantly throwing things are going wrong for you and we should be there just kind of piling things under the basically living and just like shoving things under the rug and not not doing the work to purify your actions in any thoughts and deeds you know what not but where is but he would say Obviously most people in a less conscious state or are just regurgitating there cameras in the cycle but then the the the higher Road or the narrow road to the alternative is to live in what he called that was the simplest I’ve ever heard I mean what the thing is that we will she’s like do things that make other people smile you know what I mean anyway do that that’s up for Street much should golden miles did I produce today up or down on the charts you know my going to meet you like up the game tomorrow with getting more smells out there and so I just want to let that be my my last homage from this podcast to what I what I try to do partial out there man I’m done and I’m doing it with her before we wrap up to I just wanted to quickly mention as well I’m bringing such a good point about gender because a beautiful thing about casualties in this is he represents a perfect non-duality in terms of gender fluidity right he is obviously been gifted disability through his lineage has to represent male and female TTS right and he does it so eloquently and so perfectly and it reminds me of these gender divisions that we’ve seen is very much within North American and Western European constructs right the way gender is performed and represented across cultures aren’t necessarily but we’re used to seeing right and I think when we see something as beautiful as what we see and in this dance lineages and within Buddhism actually shows up quite often in a lot of Eastern theology in a spiritual Traditions it’s a concept that help me cuz that’s within us all qualities of any gender and non-gender the we can think of and I do hope that we see more of a returning that in our side I kind of feel like we’re starting to see this and what kind of looking towards shamanic lineages and I think of a lot of Tibetan lineages of thought because they do have shamanic a shamanic Origins which is why a lot of Tibetan in Nepalese protist lineages look a bit different than let’s say Chinese Korean and Japanese go to sleep just so it’s very beautiful to see this understanding in a compass and respect of all types of energy whether we are going to look at them has male female or nonbinary don’t by now it’s quite beautiful too beautiful return to that yes awesome of that thank you for that I’m sorry I’m so do you have any others actually yeah it’d be nice to just get a bit of an update from you if you want to close out the section on desk that’s why I just have to get an update from you on what’s been happening what’s on your mind what are you looking forward to what are you preparing for the future but people message me because they wants like I can still and I appreciate that so much and well the thing is I don’t know if I told you this I certified and Yoni steaming right and I was on the directory for steamy chick I wholeheartedly recommend just temporarily take me off because I’m so busy right now in my studies I don’t have time right now unfortunately the couch as much as I feel like that’s what she is part of my calling like I’m always torn between digital activism and my calling as a Tums Rica and I never want to not skip my time low supposed because I don’t have the time and energy right now but you know in about it’s a year-and-a-half I hope to really go back to holistic healing go back to holistic sexual education and you know really go back to me because a big part of that for me is understanding sexual freedoms online which has been so constricted lately in the last couple years and I think one of the worst times for online sexual expression under the Trump Administration I will go too much of that I think you know our previous previous podcast definitely talk more about that but anyways long story short of it I was saying about a year-and-a-half I will go back into training and teaching people and I will very much consider doing like one hour coaching session cuz I was really offering. so much before but I know people as you have one on questions of that sort of thing so I think it was just you know be helpful that way the only reason I didn’t offer it so much before was because as much as I am intuitive coach and counselor in that sense of spiritual counselor I also feel like a lot of the times you can give people information but if they’re not consistently working. Just like we’re time on this podcast they’re not doing a deep dive. Information is initially I was going to help them that takes a quite a long time to alter habits and to really reflect on one’s mindset NCL thinking process so I was offering will sleep just three months before but I think I also have to acknowledge this fast-paced world we live in an offer something more within intuitive counseling but definitely differentiate between my coaching and that’s the type of Lionel advice-giving just because to be there at the same they’re both helpful in their own ways but I really do appreciate when I get to work with people on a long-term basis but yeah I think offering advice and help is also really good too and has its place is so we’ll see what happens in a year and a half from now but I look forward to serving our other people and Humanity in that realm of things again soon you know I miss it so that’s pretty much what I’m doing and I know I’m just I am grateful for my studies because I think it will always help me become a better size of think of it as a civil servants to to humanity as we how are who are helping people but I do know the Earth in general are who is just you know intend to do good but yes I I just I do miss talking to people about our work so get back into that mix then really all of these new crypto rails will be running smoothly so you can not have any just going to it’s going to be smooth operating globally to do what we do and not have to be choked off by Banks or or big data or any of the centralized choke point so that’s very exciting will keep in touch about all that indefinitely always feel free to if you don’t mind I have kind of a fetish that’s like a around using academic work that’s done basic p like I have I feel like it’s a real tragedy all of the all of the the college work University work that’s done to just get a a grade in a class and like no one ever been at work ever see the light of day so yeah if you ever have papers that you write that only are red by you and your professor if they don’t own if they allow you to retain the copyright ownership do that then by all means I love for you to share some of your work would read it as great or I can read it or whatever but that would just be able to give more life to the work that you’re doing as you’re doing it so sweet omigod thank you Patty before I do go I should let you know I did do an online project and it was on The Witches of Instagram and the active is the first through that so if you want to take a look at that that’s online which activism. but you are so which activism. C a r r g. Co after but that was a huge project for me I’m inspiring I’m still in the undergraduate you know level of things with everything but I wasn’t that simple logical digital anthropological project I did really available for people to read if they want to I just looked at activism efforts through Instagram with entrepreneurial witches who use Instagram as one of the social media Outlets within a cock of other outlets of course it was mostly fake stuff focusing on like you know Instagram not just on Facebook or something like that but because I love Instagram I think it’s really helped a lot of those witches with in North America but I was also looking at algorithmic homogeneity in that project as well looking at how you got does diaper rash eclectic group of people but when you look at their representation through hashtag feeds like witches of Instagram’s hashtag feed you just seeing very specific types of representation switch that doesn’t really help the community this isn’t over like an overarching issue we’re having were influencers are starting to kind of represents the same things look the same like they’re expected to look similar ways and you know that diversity kind of gets lost in the shuffle for communities like this which is breakfast like this community represents diversity so seeing how it’s represented in juxtaposition to what it actually looks like you’re so kind of a music gap there and a lot has to do with the way algorithms prioritize what is considered a witch and what is it considered when they decide to show up in the yeah Which Wich activism. Card with two r’s. Co I think it is being a sex which is very I think important to to this and I think that was what led me to this and just looking at how content producers who create content similar to what you and I create and how are work it’s treated vs. you know quote on quote acceptable ways of that sucks it’s becoming more problematic and I think it needs to be addressed and this is also why I was talked about but I think tajuk lineages need to be institutionalized and somebody to protect our beliefs speak of our beliefs kind of cat Trampled Under the carpet and I’m not okay with that so I think it’s also I received an increase in witchcraft in the US and why we’re understanding it more as an acceptable form of spiritual practices always has been but you know well you know what history looks like so I’m just glad to see him searching some that and understandings of people going toward religious practices or spiritual practices allow for self-expression in sexual Freedom especially when we’re referring to what we do specifically this really makes me feel a lot better about myself because I’m starting to really wonder like what’s wrong with me why don’t I watch a lot of boring what everybody else is in the morning I’m just kind of like I’m not with it like what’s wrong with me and really it’s because I really more interested in things like digital anthropology on sex witches and that’s why I don’t like I said I guess there’s nothing nothing makes you feel good right like you know what you know and of course it’s obviously not harming other people or whatever it’s something that makes you happy do it right like I I live very much in my own on my own standards and in my own head and you know a lot and whether or not people you know agree with me but doesn’t it’s none of their business as far as I’m concerned that you mean a lot of people who Venture you don’t think like you and you do feel same way as you there they just haven’t had a chance to explore does Mater you know so I think that’s where you and I come in like we help people really kind of put more to thought so they’ve already had or the concepts they’ve already considered on their own and really help them flush it out to something that works in their life right sorry about a stack the survival weapon project that I created his basic beat and in an answer to what you propose there which is it I’m I’m using the the the youthful beauty of the younger witch population to be the Trojan Horse that leads people to the elderly witches who need our support and need money to survive and to keep their lineages transmitting and so there’s that’s that’s kind of in my cauldron that’s issue that I want to help address and it’s interesting that your tablet you probably have a lot to offer and now in that regard as well and so you’ll probably be a consultant on that project at some point with this let me know I didn’t mind you I there’s so many ways you can further that project to with you know if any of those older witches want to do some more work has the other witches that you have right now like whether it’s like modeling with us we’re thinking I definitely say go out there and do it to like let them do their thing too because there’s such a diversity of what people admire and appreciate and are attracted to it’s certainly not just in these one you know that we think of the one ways of just like you know the young attractive conventionally attractive person but I’m starting to really see Prophet not just Prim just profit would like go public interest in a variety of different types of body types and ages and genders are non gender is like there’s this all out there and then you offer up the ability of expression two people love not just the one type of Hollywood asks a type of Attraction you know that type of physical look you start initiating and when U Niche there is a lot of profit in that too but there’s also a lot of appreciation for it to social appreciation so I say if you’re if you’re going to do a Witch Project where you know you have people presenting themselves and expressing themselves in a certain way I think I invite you to consider having all your wishes have that option just because like I said that there is a market there is there are people who want that it’s just all in the marketing it’s all in how you present the project there a lot of people who made things very profitable and very popular because it was unique and it might not seem too lucrative at first but because of how they persisted and how they put forward that message they started obtaining you know of the large followership like for example with suicide girls I mean there’s always been attraction for women with tattoos alternative goth looks and alternative looks in general but the way they grew that was quite interesting than amazing to watch because that there was was the way they Market at me know when they branched off into other things from my understanding and Jack real asking you know so yeah I think I don’t know I think if you have it saved which is who are at all interested in Creative expressing themselves or in expressing themselves in a specific way I say give them all the shot you know just find what works again oh what what’s working another rounds and see if you can find satistics or data on that and find ways to Market those that are let’s say unique in their own ways you know I’m just going to think I’ll help a lot like you’re going to get a lot of people liking different things and it comes to town tourism I think there is a lot of ways to express interest in new forms of artistic forms it’s just finding those Creative Marketing and promotional ways of doing it right it’s a good thing and you can always have the sexy tikini body masseuses but like you have some really cool priestesses who to like new churches and they might not look like those to keeney’s but there are sexy in their own ways and they’re appealing and motivational and magnetic in their own ways you know and just about sexy or whatever we think of a sexy in this continent in the society write a lot of different ways of going about things we are charged with meanings and ways of having to extend beyond just what’s in front of us and in the Intercontinental exceed those limitations surpassed them and find creative ways to bring charges on my think two people because it certainly goes beyond just whatever sound like pornhub or Google I don’t know why I have a sex cells but it certainly it’s high so well until we can talk about this whole time like they’re so much depth and print there so many principles a lot of information that are easy to access but if he can find artistic ways of expressing that information that’s not easy to access too that’s all so amazing and you even be very much so so thank you again for your time everything and look forward to the next time and what would be the best way for people to follow your work now or I would say Instagram is still really good I mean there’s also YouTube in both cases just looking up Taki the ticket on speaker on YouTube and Instagram but yeah I’m active on Instagram these days cuz microblogging takes less time but I also like right now like I find it still a much more free or social media outlets in most are you know at the moment I will again thank you so much have a wonderful rest of your evening and this is a real treat. 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An Academic Overview of Tantra with Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern TPP196

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In this episode I’ve been blessed with permission to publish my favorite Tantric scholar Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern’s lecture called An Academic Overview of Tantra. I discovered his epic video a few years ago and felt it to be the most comprehensive yet accessible single unit of tantric teaching I’d yet found. It’s truly a universally compelling thesis that continues to passionately move me to share his work. I consider this piece to be one of the single most important prerequisites for any modern student of the tantric arts. He takes us on a geographic, historical, and philosophical adventure.

You can listen to our previous podcast here:
https://tantrapunk.com/enlovement-and-enlightenments-with-peace-and-tantra-scholar-dr-thomas-clough-daffern-tpp146/

Please visit his websites at:
https://thomascloughdaffern.wordpress.com/about/
http://www.educationaid.net/
http://globalgreenuniversity.com/

About Thomas:

Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern B.A. (Hons.) PGCE. D.SC. (Hon), PhD. is a philosopher, historian, teacher, poet, author, lecturer, musician, thinker, educator, consultant and peace studies specialist. His academic background includes degrees in European and world history (with political philosophy) and religious education, plus a long period of intense personal study in philosophy, religion and the history of ideas – together with over 30 years teaching experience in the same fields. He has also trained and practised in conflict management within communities and schools, specialising in multifaith and multicultural mediation. He is also a trained and experienced teacher in secondary schools, specialising in philosophy, religious education, history and citizenship studies. He was awarded his PhD from the University of London for a thesis which explores the history of the search for peace from 1945-2001 and which proposes a new field of historiography, Transpersonal History, as the best way to establish a rigorous discourse on peace among rival and contending spiritual and intellectual traditions, currently battling for hegemony on the planet. He is an expert in research techniques and methodologies on all aspects of history, religious studies, the history of world philosophy and transpersonal psychology. He has lectured in peace studies, philosophy and religious studies for many years at the Universities of London and Oxford, and has spoken twice at the UN Headquarters about the role of Universities in changing the climate of fear and violence on the planet to one of trust and wisdom-seeking. He is a founder and coordinator of International Philosophers and Historians for Peace and has worked with philosophers and intellectuals from many countries worldwide to help establish intellectual and spiritual networks for peace and goodwill. In 1990 he was elected in Moscow as Coordinator of International Philosophers for Peace, a specialist body of philosophers worldwide searching for peace and international understanding.

He is Director of the International Institute of Peace Studies and Global Philosophy (IIPSGP) which works across many academic fields to bring together all those with an interest in and a commitment towards the study of peace and philosophy on all levels of the personal and global and to applying the qualities of love and wisdom to the resolution of the problems and tensions of today’s world. IIPSGP arose out of a feasibility study which Thomas undertook for the University of London into the proposed establishment of an Institute of Peace Studies (from 1989-1992). IIPSGP now operates as an autonomous Institute with members scattered worldwide. Thomas is also Founder of The Global Green University, which has arisen from the work of IIPSGP and was launched in 2000 as a pilot project in complementary higher education, to bring into being a new global higher education initiative which can provide space for the deeper kind of learning which we believe is needed at this time of critical transition in the history of planet earth.

Thomas has developed long term educational programmes to widen understanding of the causes of conflict and approaches to peace and to assist social and cultural development. He has also created, (in association with the Gandhi Foundation and the World Conference on Religion and Peace), the Multifaith and Multicultural Mediation Service. The M.M.M.S. is the first mediation service to specialise in disputes in which issues of faith and/or culture are present. He has also served as an educational adviser to numerous organisations including the UN and UNESCO. He has travelled widely in India and has visited 8 times, travelling throughout the country and meeting academics and spiritual seekers. He has extensive knowledge of Indian religious and philosophical teachings and has proposed the formation of an Indian Union Mediation Service to prevent conflicts in the entire sub-continent. He is a lay member of the Anglican Church, as well as a practicing Druid elder, Qabalist, Sufi, Yogi, Tantric and universal mystic with an extensive knowledge of all world religious and philosophical traditions. He served as educational director of the Gandhi Foundation with the late Surur Hoda, and as Secretary General of the World Conference on Religions and Peace (UK and Ireland) from 1990-1997 attending and contributing to many of its international conferences in Rome, Vienna, Sweden and Paris. As an ecumenical esotericist and universal mystic, he has also spoken at Theosophical, Anthroposophical and other esoteric organisations and networks worldwide, and helped convene the Network of Wisdom Schools at the Theosophical Society headquarters in London in 2000 for Sancta Sophia Seminary. He has spoken in Edinburgh to the Edinburgh International Festival For Middle Eastern Spirituality and Peace on several occasions, running a workshop there on the Esoteric Dimensions of Peacemaking in the Middle East, focused on his book The Qabalah Runes. He has lectured in the USA on various occasions, including at Sancta Sophia Seminary, as well as at Findhorn in Scotland and the Edinburgh and Israeli Theosophical Society.

Please visit his websites at:
https://thomascloughdaffern.wordpress.com/about/
http://www.educationaid.net/
http://globalgreenuniversity.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design a never more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin your beloved’s welcome to Tundra Punk podcast episode number 196 I’m running the audio from a video put out by Thomas cloth Dufferin which is called an academic overview of Tantra and that’s how I discovered his work we did an episode together a while back episode number 146 and luffman and Enlightenment with peace and Tantra scholar dr. Thomas cloth diapering and he is really one of my most cherished Scholars of Tantra and practitioners and we go very deep into our discussions of the political and the logical Praxis of Tantra as an art of love and healing in and ultimately planetary peace and so I really love this overview of town. He gives it to my reference sort of go to for anybody who I who I meet who is interested in exploring this topic it’s really a powerful comprehensive overview and really gets into the Geo historical journey of Tantra that the scriptures of taking over the course of hundreds if not thousands of years and so much rich and deep history and philosophy that he brings to it which is hard to find all in one place in the work he’s done the rigorous meticulous academic work he’s done and his ability to articulate that is is profound so I wanted to I wanted to be able to have that content available directly on my site he was again gracious enough to provide this permission to do this it’s also a Prelude to a deep discussion that we did recently that will come out soon all about what he is calling a thesis of Applied Tantra and we going to some very interesting places with that discussion in one of my real serious favorite mentors in the world always makes me feel like when we’re talking that were in the middle of some epic Indiana Jones plot to unravel these Mysteries and it it’s should be no surprise that I am really passionate about about demystifying did the truth that can be discovered within Tantra and actually rectifying the damage that was done in the misrepresentation of Collie in the Indiana Jones series so this is very app for me and always the passion that we share when we when we talk is is really a Timmy reminiscent of that that passion that many people have for that Series so I just have one to say this is a lot a lot of fun for me to to work with him into and hopefully more will happen in the future and I really do hope you deeply immersed yourself in this episode and listen to it over and over again as you are out there also known as we all do try to do our best to to give proper attribution and respect and contacts to this mystery that we that we call Tantra so thank you very much namaste what I want to talk about it is a kind of academic overview of what temperature is what academic expense in in religious studies know about Tantra what we * 9. Where it comes from. What why the concepts interesting why the practices and traditions are interesting how old they are I’m having to link with different religious practices in Origins and then why it’s become so kind of popular now in the present world and in the 21st century it’s got a long history and it’s still popping away and doing things people in the life so that’s very interesting said the first thing about the word concept as a linguistic + highways look at the word fast to understand the concept of time which comes in two parts 1010 means I’m extension and stretch it isn’t holding European is that are in the word extension in English intention the implication is this a tension between two polarities and turn into a tantra is understood by tantric meditation to study language they know the meaning of that Sanskrit words right they said refers to the extension that underlies the entire universe Tantra studies the workings of the Gods Shiva and Shakti they did the Primal female and male energy causes cracked universe and is interested in how that universe is crazy. It’s the tension the clarity that underlies the entire Cosmos now course the crate is inventis a tundra ancient Bronze Age and Neolithic and pre Ice Age possibly see us an ancient India and him and I reach in and Central Asia they didn’t know the astronomical confirmation the size of the universe they didn’t know it was twenty thousand million light-years across extension but they knew and Chuchu play it was lost right they looked at the stars from the Himalayan caves and said wow wants to celebrate. Incredible expensivest on denies universe that’s the 10 bit and dumb the other one to try is the same as as transcend to go beyond its in transpersonal it’s Interra it’s in the concept the roofs of Troy in Sanskrit and this is confirmed by Panini in the crate Sanskrit United linguists as well as more Moulton Linguistics is that the truth always has this information can be on something transcending it I need it supposed to reach of the word 3 which is if you think about it it’s it’s you take the basic polarity of something the tension between things and then you try and send it with rhenus to make a pyramid or a triangle triangle that tries at the root of all Concepts threeness in the Trinity the Christian knowledge of wisdom which is that the Trinity is the summing-up of the ten talents you things because you have that third point Rudolf Steiner talks about the mystery of three and of course The Druids use the word use the the number 3 some of the totality of mysteries so try is and it’s even in the would try which means to spy to go beyond to try to do something if you study the etymology of into European word roots you got a lot of very interesting metaphysical insight into the original some metaphysical fultz of of these ancient Sears and sages Sanskrit was one of us you know direct lineage has but it’s not Wilson Celtic and I will sex and lots of green Consulting & Slavic languages. That truck is in trimurti which is in 3/4 aspects of gold the Hindus had Frozen around see what that means but it is about how the universe is created the entire Cosmos that we know is Creighton and then going Beyond it going to the source getting to the incredible invisible you know what physicists now according to energy Tae crazy Cosmos Embassy is just a little popsicle compared to what still out at the Undiscovered what’s working here about ten trees explained met the metaphysical. It’s where everything comes from its ho I’m even call it Heaven Christians and other religions say there’s another world parallel to this the TransPass no spiritual heaven when Soul goes off to off the tack that’s the world that transfer takes you to it it’s best right now that’s a very profound and that’s the essence of all religion if you think about it that’s the old religion tries to do so where does this tradition come from well it’s it’s the satiric Transmissions that are some fast light the Ancients is The Vedic says some of the earliest spiritual writings on the planet from the Himalaya regions North India 15 1700 BC and Aunt Auntie withdrawing and I’m actually anxious and knowledge system handed down by word of mouth is my rising at this time for those people that was writing in the Indus Valley culture has which day facts about 2500 BC. Script is not being fully deciphered some say it was related to Sanskrit some say it was related to dravidian it seems to contain elements within characters in Dasani script that relate to Chantry Concepts you see it have a Shiva like figure in in in meditation post and since there are animals to the remind olevic for sacred animals will sacred name 47 spiritual powers and energies like snake the Buffalo lion the Tigris a truck I’m so I think what we can say is that the 10 traditions in Hinduism drawer on The Well of wisdom that is from the northern Indian couches that they are the dravidian couches probably of that region plus the Indus Valley cultures which may mean nothing to it in the Shiva was probably that that mean Diancie tendon European tribes appearing Brahman and United the beta codes appearing Agni and Davey using Soma as a as an ecstatic mind-altering substance because Shaman’s wanted to access the state of ecstasy wants to go beyond the world and these ancient tribes found that one way to do that is to is to use the freaks of nature nature provides the clues I just salvation in in the fruits of the earth and the Millennium expensive things he found a certain kinds of herbs and potions and compounds produced send kinds of facts and Consciousness I’m Goldenwest some and other kind of receptions into socket e-mail to Scott speculations that human consciousness itself turns McKenna right about the food of the Gods the human consciousness itself if Cole among these primitive 8 by creatures ramapithecus the renewal in India 3 million BC something to make him leave about 60,000 be seeing me stop thinking and toking why did they stop making that maybe we just sort of discovered incredible effects of of of Summa and scriptures say that at some point we plugged into the language we would conscious maybe the same story is kind of trickle-down in the other parts of Asia in the west as the fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil when it becomes of Doc some dangerous thing but in fact if it’s the fruit of the Tree of Life which is a certified centrifical text and then there’s probably an ancestral memory in the people that wrote those Biblical scriptures down much later. Somehow that’s going to be ingesting The Forbidden substance and the Advent of an experience of intellectual ecstasy or omissions today’s Vedic Sears with pussy Hawaii if a pretty powerful is the wonderful story of the brand has reached out but going to see a Hindu Guru in in like I’ve seen it somewhere up in the glass give accounts to see my recent film I’m cold still here when he says you know he he he been worrying about his life his mother just died and she had a phone call from his brother he was you know he wasn’t in a fit state to see the guru I never met this guy before he went out in the friend group the largest they stayed in the night before 2 to look at the stars and kind of feel sorry for himself anti Peta what am I doing things to see this. I don’t believe in good reason I’m a nice Jewish boy from from America and I am a Scientist but he was experimenting with you anyway the next day he went out to the ash travel group was introduced they went and sat down buy him a new fuse to power any kind of a patient’s doesn’t do that Westin Long Beach. CA I’m time he sat down in his presence I’m a God-fearing man could speak broken English sunset that was a really sad State you got into last night on the trying to watch him to stop thinking about your mom I’m so sorry that you felt all those things you pick this up telepathically that moment prom dresses salute conceptual framework of what’s permissible for Consciousness to do something the evaporated he was a guy able to read his mind right to the depth of his soul could pick up his in a spiritual angst anything from not moving to transform and that guy became a screw and gave him a new name and he’s he’s in a line of descent from The Vedic says I’m talking about they were at that level thousands of years kind of cat to have a sentence with initiation Worley now can’t respond for that system North World Hindu gurus practice 10-4 Paseo would use the term necessarily but it’s so the roofs of what they do physically I think it is I who comes up the stuff of body is sending of the Kundalini to the to the Hyatt chakras and the the cancellation of the sahasra the crown chakra to a blazing light of Illumination which brings samadhi Springs Awakening now that’s kind of Awakening DDD surrounded by Westin spiritual seekers in Saint confirm this through that spiritual healing and animals and scientific techniques of measuring body radiation stuff seemed to confirm this so we’re surrounded by not what you feel I’m putting most of its dormancy snow activate it’s not the way it’s kind of unconscious Freud and Jung put it on the train superconsciousness inventions his concept of the egg diagram which is a symbol of how the transpersonal self then Inspire list of demanding self you know which is at the top of the crown of the knowledge of wholeness samanti McKendree my chest Emoji in Sanskrit is simply comes from the same root the same same as I didn’t means when the Mind instead of looking at differentiation and everything’s different it makes it realize that everything is a Divine Unity of one this everything’s the same you know Muslims Jews Christians Buddhists Hindus boxes safety the same one from the samadhi Consciousness perspective that’s what we treat everyone with equal love compassion and and Magnum in and say goodnight now that’s that’s on the condition of Consciousness that’s what we really should be some of the scripture say be descended from galt’s in advance does a whole kind of tradition that we are actually Gold’s on earth and the great sages of the beta times like yudhistira it was said of him that when he told me you have to speak to now she can’t touch the ground you know he was at which is either a metaphor or something that these Sears can do anyway this is an awesome history account account the whole thing I’m one thing that’s very interesting because I’m free scholarship religion is to trace the history and many inches of a spadix is the origins of country philosophy metaphysics lie about time and meditation practices in someone that they become formalized in Hinduism with with them push and Johnny and I thought yoga practitioners pranayama insulting work were invented or discovered at that time in in prehistory right yogurt is is a form tax in Contra theft in Indian culture which includes the monster the body and the mind and soul in a hominid means reuniting yogur is opposite the sun square foot to reunite the Soul Essence with its Divine source you don’t have to leave the body anti to do that did the point attend roach is a very radical concept is that you can attain on this season’s and God Consciousness and wisdom in this lifetime in this party. All I do is the Hindu I’m sending reincarnation Cycles is that it takes an immense time to finally come home to to where we’ve been on the loan which is our Eternal Soul nature I’m becoming very long journey sometimes life off the life of the life we got lost and trapped in. Comic patents which we may be, can I also three Roman thinking time she would say it’s always a metaphysical misunderstanding that lies at the root of suffering and the job of the yogiyo the Teatro fluster is to untangle that is not a misconception in the student or the aspirin until they themselves Beach their own freedom of knowledge in Greek Enlighten Alaska license which means untangling on loosening since it’s the least thing of adults with Tide okay so that’s that’s what the Hindus which I am not became Hinduism right which is a silhouette it doesn’t exist in Sanskrit that meant a lot. It was supposed to come with Ninja and Colby people Hindus from the river Indus the time Hinduism wasn’t used it with snacks and Dawn by was the Eternal truth okay fast forward abyss and further off in another part of the Himalayas in Lumbini in what is now in the pool I’m in the second plan that was born a prince Siddhartha Gautama who was raised in in the noble traditions of his are Socratic full baths and was being trained to become the next Prince of Columbus Zoo he was struck by the bug of seeking for ultimate wisdom and truth and had a kind of heroic mindset like many great Kings and princes in history that he really wants to save his people not just loading of the man having a nice banquet some things but actually finding the ultimate Reese’s know how to reform and redeem people’s sufferings which is an incredibly Noble aspiration okay so then the young man said housing and studied in the forest with many great sages who who was the local Hindu sages base to tried everything fasting chanting standing on one leg in a May 16th at parties till it was a young man cataumet Winton study with them for many years learning from each and turn Until you realize it may seem none of them actually had the secret they didn’t I mean maybe he just makes a leading yeah actually had the samadhi experience that they can transfer it to him they didn’t know enough he was obviously quite a wise man of few months of questions and he then had his own experience of Enlightenment to samadhi of Awakening under a tree and I’m putting two to I’m in which she realized I can calculable holistic knowledge that comes when the crown chakras awake and from then was will have enough can you transmit this how can you speak about this it’s beyond any given language it’s comes from the same place as the source of Mind itself a sociable languages how can anyone language transmit this so but anyway after few days he thought he’d try and of course and began his teaching career and he was from 10 – the puta mean in the awakened one the unlikely one and he transmitted through summons and informal disco seasoned instructions. Particular practices and sound to do in BRAC forms of yogurt affect medication which is which is focusing Consciousness and learning to transcend the Spheres of temporal whoa back to this new phonics state is he cool with it now the teachings that were what is Anna’s got two phones risk of esoteric Buddhism which is the practices the work of the signing of the everyday life the discipline of Anaya and then it’s going to see satiric form which is the wisdom teachings to put a transmission transmission play some some Cycles was so Advanced they can actually pick up on those thoughts just as I recounted the story of the Hindu Guru being able to use telepathy now so it was a nice time since I put a like mice transmit to the Olsson Associates of the bubonic stage and some of his disciples and friends like Ann and the cost is tradition apparently was was transmitted in the famous flower sermon which was a sign of just School somebody just held a flower now what is 10 trick Forbes originates in tires that the British tantric tradition is that there was a Maurice at Eric teaching that put a transmitted from mind to mind which which concerns the the the structure of the universe and the purpose of human existence of the future Destiny of the soul but it wouldn’t talk and discuss about ultimates God God’s Soul reincarnation self he he was he was a bit pedantic actually in his teachings Nollywood the four noble truths the Eightfold Path now repeat off to me you know there is a cause of suffering there is a solution say excetera excetera is all you know quite basic stuff very important but nevertheless quite basic and Buddhist teachings I was right next to repeat you know simple phrases again and again and again where’s the thing for his more advanced disciples he kept the more profound stuff and often it was done without words and so then you go to tradition developing I’m off to put his death and after a show calf founded Buddhism as a kind of the major religion of Northern India I’m couple hundred years off to put a tide it became very very sheex to to to become Buddhist cuz Ashoka the Emperor of Northern India had converted from a Woolite state trapeze. I’m also influence by the Giants as well I’m so modest use of founded the Sangha developed great libraries great sense of scholarship like nalanda which became a huge when I State University in Bangor until Shyla which was another great University Montessori complex in what is now Pakistan even in a on the on the route I kind of stopped I meet these supposed love that text they studied and they began to write 10 trick but it’s time for text as well a lineage has developed whereby particular but his stages it was felt and reach the highest enlightenment and entertained on the simplest to holistic Consciousness right now it’s not everyday not not your average Joe being policeman gets there and some actually think will they called that because they got together in lifetime’s in my fund and the whole High Rock you think it’s in yeah but you know even if he says he he when he hasn’t gone for a little month is the 10th root symbol radical they would like the Mystic secret agents for the dominant wisdom you know you’re not allowed to say that to the turn tricks or kind of innocence marginalised for mainstream put some some extent and and frequented the woods and and even the Charnel grounds that The Cremation places because that was a really strong place you could confront temporality in death so they took to do in the meditation in in Washington corpses and stuff dead then develop this heroic the mosquitoes they be cold this this aerobic troop of a realized beings at that time but isn’t it reached nirvana I reach Enlightenment lead in the potty I’m tilted the the grace Saints the great Mystic achievements and lineage then comes down and then what happens is that the people of Tibet Golden Krust in Buddhism and they sent missionaries to ask for help my son Bolivar he was from kind of Northern Pakistan to actually come to Tibetan teach Buddhism to the Tibetan people’s was one of these since she was a 1040 shop he hit a chain. Cosmic Consciousness if you want I’m he was also scholar and and he was a product or phase universities in Northern India Which Wich study of astrology and metaphysics and epistemology and Physiology a proper sentence of real Line Is It Anyway he was he was he was given a consult he signed a contract extension without without the right consoles and woman was was was proposed as his consort and they began very strong wisdom if a great love affair in which they I was transferred it to her life of the East Church teachings they spend a lot of time in caves together he entered legendary in spash he struggled with the Demons of the phone from using and I’d introduce Township 02722 badge this there’s wonderful legends about his life, some Bob left teachings which were too advanced for the Tibetans about time just began the journey put it on the neighbor coming out of a kind of shamanistic world in which they were working the demons to get to that Consciousness level I mean I didn’t think having some Papa would have disparaged the shamanic traditions because 10 for itself comes to some extent from them but I think that he would have felt that some of the elements of fear that exist in the in the in the the Primal kind of shamanic world the nation’s the struggling with with an a with the gala in the enemy demonic forces I think that was that was transmuted intended Buddhism into coming from a place that had the love and compassion which as we put himself in the light of his Enlightenment transmits the arrows of the devil Mara into flowers I need statistics for the parts of the moral history of the white humankind if you want to come to to that represent Stars. Transformation to a world a new world of love and compassion similar in some ways to Christianity coming to say Britain in the county Wild the story of Thomas and Barbie continues and the teachings that were left with two profound people about time it is sad in tibetan tantric for is that he left them as mind residues can Tums which were left in secret places around Sebastian caves in particular Bally’s embedded in a rock even in a tree or a while and end these would literally imprinted by his mind on the place and then could be read later hundreds of years later by someone who choose to it and this is an extraordinary story to look at this academic in scientific that you know if if parapsychologist now reconcile apathy does exist which I pretty much proved Chevy transmissions in song yes they can happen we don’t know how they happen but they do happen well can you can you actually in bed forts in a Place Minot if you need some Lefty mind-to-mind why does time have to get get a problem if seems to be severe evidence for precognition exists people can understand the past when it’s still the future and vice-versa that you know we can jump about past and future and present there’s no at a certain level of a machine Consciousness you can choose where you dip down into the mine stream if the universe is a player continue mindstream this time she teaches then once she got off into the APA reaches the mainstreaming courage and you’re traveling faster than light and don’t forget we know from Einstein that it’s the speed of light that produces the visible world of time and space that we know I keep trying to send the restrictions the speed of light go to the speed of fools you can you can dip into anytime you want and I think that’s what these people would doing and I think someone, some Baba imprinted in a row core cable second each day with enlightened vibration resonating in that space and could be picked up later by an issue or an aspirin in the state of devotion I’m not stats on the Run many dozens of reports of Tibetans light to finding these teachings of Peppa Peppa sumbala a tradition of the old skools Tibetan Buddhism right which was much later reform by the Yellow Hat’s the girl look Papa the old school worship the original tantric teachings of the old school and they argue. Just as the Hindu Tantra Salon cute that that you can obtain the highest nirvana in solitude you can go into States Of Consciousness and blessed meditation unite and reach you can travel around the universe you can do time travel you can fly ineffective yeah I promise I was supposed said he could fly out of Body Experience physical buddy levitating that’s my view so yeah you can do a lot but if you want to ground that if you want to actualize that in order to link between heaven and yes time teaches you how to go to heaven you can fly with the city’s but can you go to the shops and get some bread and milk you know and talk to the local people then it’s going to die a house is a teaching you’ve got to be able to live in the world as well as transcend well so the 10 try you can turn it on its head it’s about it’s about the transcendental coming into the world as well coming into the tension taking full becoming a human good night that’s the whole nation in Hinduism of the avatar the avatars that is the God’s grace descending Into the Wild enchantra the mass city is is is the Buddhist Christ descending into the world it’s that new vonyc Force coming into samsara and if the reason that bridge built then both worlds side in at the Saints and the niceties love this while they like visiting it rude to visiting hours at crucifies and likewise we humans need to be able to know that there is another world and it’s going to be okay so we don’t have to compete Heaven’s big enough for all of us cuz you’re a Muslim and Jew or Christian going to have to fight and kill each other so important and how one of the ways it can be done is through relationship rice through building the tension of relationship and between male and female that the twin embodiments of Shiva shack TV innocence incarnations itself the princess of bifurcation the unity becoming the two which makes a trinity and and the male females working together conjoining and partnership in sacred partnership in 10 Short Pump ship is the vehicle for the Bridge Building between the transcendental world in the mundane world answered the whole idea of sacred sexuality is it the Russe at entry practice as adamek practice I mean all religions accessing the sacred apart from maybe one or two I’ve known religions of sites it’s an unhealthy or unclean or something most religions realize that sex is Sacramento in in Christianity Sacrament and this is why they celebrate with marriage and big festivals and parties in Judaism it’s the same the Soha kabbalistic text has passages about in a female aspects of the gold hat Pokemon Bina what goes on in tentra is is the affirmation of the World by the transcendental in a business is the eternals on his question in all religions ophiologist we struggled with yes there is a chance that the world and is demanding what what’s the relationship is it also makes people realize there’s something not quite right with the mundane world people died the Spain people lie cheat and steal you know so most religions somehow try and try and renovate the ethical behavior of people in the mundane world in the lights of the trance Festival transcendental well that’s the point of prophets and seers and say that’s the point of Revelations of God in history right now so that’s that relationship with the two is is is the crucial knob Froggy Went in origin and over to just practice in according to Tantra the relationship is one of love I’m one of mutual affirmation the mundane world is a creational play O Lela of the Divine world it’s it’s it’s a wonderful party the gods are having a 6 and it’s meant to be a blissful and delightful and CPAP experience unfortunately it’s like a party this goes slightly out of hand and you know you see them on Facebook you have a Facebook party and lots of people turn out and smashed the place when the parents are the kids that are on the planet realize how we should be treating The Witch’s with reverence as as the home of the Cults and so what happens is is the teachers of the Punnett being a Buddhist Hindus Christians Druids whatever you want to call it doesn’t matter they use different names in different places sufis Muslims Catalyst same tradition they would each just basically try and get the kids to behave and see now about the fundamental principle on which that’s premise is that there is a contract to Covenant of compassionate love between the transcendental well and the mundane world to put the gold so loved the world that he constantly sends down in a Messengers Alliance Plumbing Sons and Daughters right through sex that is how Spirit works the miracle of manifestation and neither is a tradition tent roof of the possibility of manifestation of a body shorty from mine levels which is a bit like Christ’s Resurrection appearances in song I mean there is I think there’s enough evidence in the literature of the Saturn time sheet for that perhaps some initiates can rise up to certain levels where their bodies can internalize there is people like Babaji another special but that’s that’s extremely Advanced Ultra practicable in the world as we are at the moment I’m so safe for most people it’s the experience of section that is the cusp Alinco Bridge moment between the mundane in the transcendental experience falling in love with being in love expressing that love physically is an extremely powerful feeling involving the 40 the emotion that the spiritual matron song and cancel that 4 works with that recognizing that is the sacred full commission transcendental in the mundane into into link and so what is tantric practitioners the old school of which, son Bible was the Exemplar I’m in the Trenton contacts are others before him which would Embrace sexual ecstasy as a vehicle to Enlightenment which means the outer body experience the rain by Buddy excetera and consults to yes it’s okay I was very interesting woman history of religions cuz we have her will to biography she wrote a story down into Baton and it’s one of the first or tomography by practicing female mistake in the history of man’s religions she describes what it was like being without some Papa and I’m the awesome adventures they had this apparently 11 tradition I think it’s true they want I’m in a cave some months exploring each other in the Mysteries and the effect was so awesome on how passionately that when having somebody went off you have to go visit about him do some work during some demons she tries to stay in the cave meditate for like 3 months cuz she was just so like unless she wants to stay in that state and she writes this and Whores hog for you and this is an amazing woman and one of the great Saints of not just put his literature but world literature must have been many others like her because as a recent American feminist to store in the religions Scola has has written a wonderful book compassionate Enlightenment and what she’s explained and explored the history of 10 I’m not just bought in the tub and then we’ll send the North Indian tradition sahasra another great women Mystics we know practiced this kind of passionate ecstasy in which sexuality was seeing some vehicle towards Enlightenment nose a hindrance to it I think Sally and history Regents many men and some women have seen sexuality is something I’m actually not to be tempered with which we control fiercely police with marriage rules and regs it’s on it’s on enchantra it’s seen as something so sacred that it’s has to be free as to be Beyond you can’t have rules and regs about this it’s too profound okay and it’s out at Haas a mystical experience and it’s it’s The Reawakening renewal of the Covenant between the transcendental in the Monday night to today right it was towed through mudra three practices through through to mind only Transmissions it was through meditation beat the bomb has the old school told this to that students in in monastic contacts milarepa to through poetry as he left about from Peak to peak in the Himalayas I’m in love with Nirvana so much that he made up some of the world’s most incredible poetry he’s like the room if to that and it survived the miracle of tantric Buddhism in Tibet is it survived until the present time is a direct lineage of this stuff because that was how to get to very few people caught the Muslim armies will they conquered more than India and tragically destroyed text Sheila and and Lando right monasteries Libras went up in Flames they miss Mystic what the police Township something for devil worshiper and I’m having lost some of that uses chart lineage that would come down from Hemet they kind of misunderstood it was a tragic miscommunication and they bundle of the manuscripts they store the fly business often they kill died in the box and but fortunately a couple of generations of central to before The Invasion pretty much the whole law to being taken to the bye bye teams of skull has sent by to bad who who preserve those manuscripts so we have most of what malandrin text Sheila hide in the monasteries of tobacco as a treasured its patents fell in love with that reporter someday they they went to town on that she night I need they developed this incredible civilization in in in the highest Plateau on the planet and it was preserved for for millennia and because here I just didn’t want to go out text too far there’s nothing apart from some yak about that they didn’t bother thank God Is Right until tragically the Chinese in the 1950s did invite you turn in the 1960s did the cultural revolution and until another monastic burning load stuff on top but fortunately again that mean another Exile. I love her come-out bringing his wagon trains of sacred precious writings and llamas used to struggle of crosses some of them still to touching that precious texting things and I belong is it come out around that same time Chucky on true but one of the craziest Tibetan tantric teachings of the twentieth century came to Britain and he was a high Lama with with with this Township knows I’m talking about and he went and rode this is human Oxford University he said if I’m going to seriously bring this to that and wisdom to the West I have to understand how the West things I have to study philosophy and stuff and also what she did to bring it mine he then went and set up Sammy Lane Munster in Scotland which is one of the biggest Buddhist monasteries in in in Europe which continues to the state the current time you know that Mama Street Lama yeshe continues to practice these these Traditions song said that they continue to survive. I mean on Match many of these different person and talk to them so what I’m saying is not just from books it’s from experience it’s from lived experience for instance, yes I did. Treats on the Island Coney Island off the coast of Scotland in which you go into a meditation station in 40 days and 40 nights Mauston what it was like I said well after while you lose all distinctions between sleeping and being awake between between dark and light 9 nice and day you interest I took navanick Continuum consciousness you transcend time and and your mind then expose the universe it’s that packs a perfect trick or would like basically see so the dates it’s it’s wonderful it’s miraculously survived and we are very blessed in this country in Britain to have that mistreat to have all the schools teaching the other people teaching different aspects of whiplash though such a half you know the Hindu tradition which survived in spite of the Muslim conquest and in many ways the British acting deserve it because they some people Grumble that the British began India for a couple of centuries we did keep a bit of water on and we also didn’t know if a lot of scholarship and people are swimming Giants learn Sanskrit discovered the links to Greek and Latin invented the concept into European Linguistics and we wouldn’t know so much of what we do know about time to wear it not for the British Scholars of throw a jacket size account cast from someone that looked through the scripts and song Sir John Woodroffe it was British claim Administration the Raj again another time he published as much as he could be right folks on at the seven pounds on that mean many British pounds of religion. Deeply into this stuff and there’s a huge literature which which is come out the British old is the range resting Sunny just come out it was British civil servants in a minute straight to see ReDiscover the holy places of Buddhism they’ve been welding the Gratitude and they went over grind jungle Elias in the pool I know it in India and it was British Scholars and administration lawyers and judges see what they’re interested in the list and went and rediscovered places like so and of course say that. Transmission through the British Raj to 2 in a manuscript coming to the British line dance on his crazy the whole traditional Oriental studies in sunglasses Exemplar institution where they study time for the high level of academic knowledge and those texts being preserved talk to bed the British Library whatever Dolphins playing tonight so there is a traditional Scottish scholarly study of country biking speed Hindu or Buddhist at Stats alive and well and 07 India and indeed has been translated to French a Buddhist Jane scholar who was involved with the project to rebuild the University of nalanda there is actually a project. I think it’s GoFundMe they’ve got a few buildings together in the sight of the original Lando and they’re trying to read read read homes the university basically and good luck to them today it’s also in in the Westmore has a practice some people who’ve had those initiator experiences see if it worked with but it’s time trap and and Hindu Tantra now run workshops and cool-season and teach the experience which is found I’m not running just a little kind of petitions people at your show tradition he was a kind of mavyret time for teacher in fact more from a Jane lineage then put us but he was an omnivore he started to hold which is our pleasure and Delight in the 20th 21st century we can do that for the first time since we’re coming to a place of global wisdom I mean another scholar practitioner is Nick Douglas he’s written a wonderful History of Time truck dating it back to the Ice Age agency isn’t Himalayas and of course these ideas came into Weston Lisa Terra traditions of the Golden Dawn and and the fella might traditions and another’s the question that arises just some final force that is there a West increments temperature if that’s what episode what would what we do in the west Will Young discovered that affect the 10 for traditions of Christian you’re a locked into alchemical this kills its mate that stuff the tantric practices survived they written in codified in symbolic form because these are dangerous times you be done as a heretic but they rule Center in the in the Primal primary religions of Europe I think the very word Druid for instance is related to the Tantra Judas to see who sees the dhamma sees the truth and I think it’s absolutely suck butt in the Celtic world The Druids understood exactly the same kind of metaphysics that the tantric practitioners didn’t know they would like the same people living in different geographical locations and has come down to The Croods teachings written down and in monastic schools in an island and miles and song about that Pantheon of deities about the waking the fundamental energies about the powers of Clairvoyance about that down the standing of the link between the universes so I think you could say that the Celtic Russian Tundra and I think that’s the same is true in Galva traditions of European culture in the in Scandinavian Norse Germanic Anglo-Saxon the world the Odin Mysteries and song sizes that the mystery of the Rings DVD several times if you look into them there about affirming Wells the Gold’s even the concept of the Rainbow Bridge transcon song it’s like an encoding in in mythological form of what time should prostitution is what we’re exploring experientially I would say the same in ancient Greece and its range resting that time heroes Camus the sacred marriage was was seen as the quintessence of the mysteries of ancient Greek culture you went to the mystery schools you studied you learned and if you would like you experience the heroes Camus which was which was the sacred Union of Zeus and Hera the god in the goddess which I’m delay Greek civilization I need a practitioner of the Mysteries in a sense participation Heroes, so sacred marriage and the Greeks understood the power and sexy as something arras was divine was Plato explained but it but in the concept of what happens in the Greek flashing Tundra is that is that the purely physical erupted love is sublimated is is worked into a higher mystical of Aphrodite urania which is what we go to Tonic love and that. Transmutation I would say is is equivalent to what rhymes with some cells with doing and I apply to a managed to get to the Himalayas met some of these but it’s time lyrics and song I’m he live just to piss off the butt of so it’s possible I’m sure they would have got on best best friends and they knew about Enlightenment he talks about license he talks about in the vision of the cave when you come out of the darkness and you see the pendant light it’s the same vision and heels it talks in the middle of the end of the Republic about life after death it’s a report of a near-death experience which is exactly the same as in the Indian Hindu Buddhist to the World Systems so I think you know we have the same in philosophy actually Plato’s The Great Link in the chain of the philosophical transmission I think it’s the same in Pythagorean metaphysics I think Pythagoras in his switches to 10 dots that make an equilateral triangle which is an issuance have to swear by that is a diagram in fact one of the forms that tend to express itself throughout through the mental exposed by Young and the young I mean that’s the sacred you and me and say all the animals he has his disciples of sworn to secrecy so none of this what’s was Chad’s publicly but it was it was the absence of phosphate the love of wisdom what is that but what I’m talking about it’s that it’s that guy into the Mysteries at the farming the beauties of the mundane and daring to linkage so that attract is tells the story of how the one becomes two which in turn becomes three three dots the Trinity the triangle which in time become a fool the Crotona see the square and under is 10 dots some of the entirety of creation I thought were supposed to learn mathematics and he was able to explain this math magic trick with a Hindu mimes doing the same the great Hindu man mathematicians have discovered the idea of the zero the cycle which is incredibly important because that came from their experience of the Void shunyata it is one key idea that that you need to get hold of can understand time for its conception me on to this entire visible manifestation is emptiness but the internet’s is the oldest is the Divine goddess herself is the Bliss right now that conception you know you can imagine some great 10 traits of a scholar coming up with this idea my God I’m going to revolutionize Matt’s I’m going to stick his ear of it that’s that’s more or less how it happened antivirus is reputed to have gone to India it’s very very interesting this is a field Peter Kingsley and all the people of recess she rides a Wonderful Life of his Peter King deals to read a fantastic but the top places wisdom about Parmenides he’s a kind of Weston philosophical Butterfinger like Shankar who emphasized the night for being right so that would be the one known big is is the 0 and it’s the relationship between the two will the two of the male and female symbols the one in the zero what she put them together they make 10 night which is which is infinity so say we haven’t seen the last this is what I’m trying to say and I mean I’m not going to get into pass details you can you can work it out for yourself but it’s that it’s magical where is it in Christianity but I do I think it’s I think it’s in the tradition at its best I think it’s in Christ affirmation of life is turning water into wine at the wedding in Cana is love of the female his his effectively turned relationship with Mary Magdalene Christ was not approved he was not against this world what he was doing was bridging called the infinite Eternal into this well that’s the whole point of the Incarnation in a sense he’s the avatar for the West he is to come see what tension practitioner if you the problem is the names why do we have to pull it Christianity or something that’s let some let’s let’s the firm in silence learn Hearts do Unity undermine movies and then hopefully we can attain peace on the Spanish I’d also say it’s in Islam as well because notwithstanding mad General smash country temples in India self would have understood and resume sheets and everything I’ve been saying today I think Muhammad was himself on the phone said she has he didn’t have the conceptual Seafood City of Auburn academic retrain mind he didn’t he didn’t never heard of Plato probably never knew Greek philosophy he was he was a family you know desert Bedouin huge spiritual experiential wisdom in his cave what’s the Caillou for the place where attention cuz what’s he getting these channeling messages from from from Ally the infinite deal with boys and if you I mean Sunday future Scholars will have to go through the Koran re chronologize is on tangled web do what the Bible had done Foothill High criticism find which bits what kind of added later to buy committees which fits what time that would insult I think you’ll find this concept of surrender submission to the absolute is it is a precondition for any of them to town trap everything I’ve talked about you can’t even get to the first base of it unless you surrender to God you have to you have to immerse yourself in the boys and say I’m nothing I know nothing I’m ignorant that was Socrates point I know nothing I’ve been just ask that at that point gold the gold Spirit if you lucky might give you a glimpse of the precondition for any hot for the heist in Islamic school Sufism many inches you have the understanding of the bluff it you have the link between male and female Affirmed anybody Herbie’s teachings Andrea Mason all the great Seafood space account and on that Assisted Living tradition unite to fight you and I’ve done this kind of could stop tomorrow if we can have a seminar on time for some family on Buddha statues built by tantric Buddhist Afghanistan vs Central country produce in Paterson public I need to know we can sit down with the Muslim Scholars the British scholars in add Representatives different solutions and as it was surrendering you I think to remake that cousin of the anschluss each of us individually owned Canada now needs to resend a new and and and Camilla put the guns away countries it doesn’t really like Finance ultimately it’s a piece lineage finances is possible life okay and it’s positive manifestation and tantrix traditionally used to eat meat in a sacred ritual sometimes it it Tundra is wise enough to know that death is not necessarily the tragedy that everybody thinks it’s just two transportation to form and even the Christian Mast sacraments is an enactment of that tension tonnage to death in life orange connected and I’ll cavemen ancestors used the sacraments of meat to survive the long winters of the Ice Age it was a sacred vehicle just as for the American Indian I think there’s a realist about here but what he did to was absolutely minimize. Violence it’s about compassion say just as the American Indian Hunter when he kills the Buffalo he use the tool he uses the skin of the bones the music keeps him alive makes his toes makes his Tepee and you give thanks to great spirit for the I’m so the tantric accepts life gives thanks for the life process I’m an honest soul stirrers and it stopped. Reverence that That’s essential. You know the other thing of the township stood in their rituals was was used in Hebron since you know why does she fight tentrix use use cannabis is a sacral sacral to achieve sacred Consciousness just as interested parents do I did indeed in India still it’s it’s legal for shy by 10 tricks that are allowed to use that sack with come inside for me so those things kind of forms of accessing ecstasy as seen as supplemental add-ons I didn’t think you need them but I think some people it helps and I think I’d be very interesting if if the West experiment with liberalising some of its rules and regs on on ecstasy in in the generic sense and instead of putting people in prison for wanting to explore their Consciousness actually gave them learning and teaching and education and stop being kind and unlicensed you can access this stuff along with the appropriate wisdom mornings not helpful things but was Des Moines you know you might die if you can see the stuff that’s your choice that’s not 270 take x amount in which case you might go to have a brief play be prepared. So I mean I mean cancel that 4 would have should we say that we just finished with a condolence the political agenda on the pond at the moment it’s not like reading of the planet it’s about reconnecting with our primordial roots it’s about opposing and and re-education to rival rampant monotheism so they destroying this planet people with a very small idea of God and we got access to weapon power are ruining this planet for the rest of us I didn’t think the gods a happy and I think that’s why this Crock-Pot if you have a tall is currently on this planet the living Saints and sages instead of teaching this wisdom and I think it’s because guess that’s being Italian Delight in others being this being assertive from too many temples of being done to watch knowledge is being suppressed too much he’s too turnt wisdom has been suppressed too many think has to be mounted on a still being monitored you know you properly without freedom of thought freedom of experience is not enough freedom and Chandra simply radical Enlightenment and and peace as it’s always been did you look for the Yellow Hat’s the Dalai Lama says you don’t need an actual physical pump you didn’t need to engage an actual sexual practices you can remain celibate and just imagine it what they do is they imagine that sacred consoles and they do have somebody country practices but they don’t actually need a living life customers fine this was the I drove song copper you lived in Fulton Centre who was it was a very wise practitioner but I think icing Buddhism tantric Buddhism is still being too bad today on the Chinese wouldn’t be running the place if they capture the old school teachings I think what time is somebody brought in the most was a total Devotion to the land and that included The Women fake you called cut yourself off from womankind totally and I’m still a fan of life that was promised almost teaching that was the name of his teacher with with the Yellow Hat I mean this is the dear old Tylenol Mannino’s is sort of holding on in dharmasala not sure if he wants another Incarnation you know it’s like what kind of a commitment is that and this is this is something the pension of in Tibetan Buddhism pendulums the secret in ahead and he was more from the old school teachings it’s raining dressing to the West is supposed to admit that then pension lump she made it to she gets a I didn’t see a sophical lord there’s a whole ancient wisdom library on the she gets a written in ancient texts tonight from ancient ancient times so I’m just to say just in one of these charts sources just just a sprain dressing it is sad that he was The Reincarnation of tongue couple making out for what he thought I suspend judgment but in my work is a TransPass the historian what I’m trying to resolve critical and rationally and I could Emich me about these kind of mystical States and observations the things that actually asked questions about Princeton’s Reincarnation of Dynamics in history just want Stine Rasta pouch in the, lectures you know it’s a bit behind the times in catching up with the web that actually needed on the planet so that’s why it’s it’s a delight to go to talk about say the history of tension with you because it gives a knife review from a TransPass in perspective what’s actually going on thank you for listening to the podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or team up and I can’t repent. 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