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Discussing Religion, Permaculture, and Pandemics with Mike Kokal TPP260

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In this episode I’m joined by Mike Kokal of the End of the Road podcast for a free style discussion about the intersections of religion, permaculture, and pandemics

About Mike:

Mike Kokal is the host of the End of the Road Podcast which showcases an eclectic mix of guests working with ordinary and non-ordinary states of consciousness in the finite playground we all find ourselves in: “The Horizons we strive to touch but are already there.”

Mike is also practices civil litigation and is a patent attorney. His professional bio can be found at: https://secure.heylroyster.com/attorneys/details.cfm?attorneyID=90

The End of the Road Podcast, which is nearing 100 episodes, can be found here are wherever you listen to podcasts: https://endoftheroad.libsyn.com/

My Non Verbatim Show Notes

Current events strategy, don’t have a tv, don’t know if that makes me a luddite

don’t like to watch news, 24 hour news cycle on tv

I like bbc service, somewhere between bbc and economist seems to be much more objective than nbc, fox

haven’t compared statistics to prior outbreaks, spanish influenza, killed a lot more people than recent outbreaks

haven’t really studied it, the new social media interfacing with that, changing the narrative or not

happened before historically, originally had state laws for mandatory vaccinations, resistances to that, if we’re talking about martial law, court cases developed since then, in the wake of that

not something I’ve studied in any detail, precedent of state being able to dictate that you must receive this or that

united states in a lot of ways is the bread basket for the world, immediate needs we’re fortunate here, more or less self sufficient with oil

we have enough food, less fortunate countries dependent on outside aid, most drastic effect on economy

grew up in wyoming, canned goods, bottled water, everything came in was fresh

I guess I have not being participated in disaster preparedness

I started going to a church, come across the minister, civic groups, 99% african american church, minister, very thoughtful definitely get good vibes from him, last sermon on book of revelations of the bible, psychedelic adventure going through hell, fragmented snakes and demons, believes we’re approaching the end times

put on the clock of god, shed the trappings of evil, you could interpret that as to how our society is so removed from any of the basic hardships that most people throughout history have suffered

huge homeless problems, but what would happen if there really were systemic disruptions of service, how would be react, bring people together, honor and helping each other

I think just about every age they’ve always thought they were going through the end times

if the gates of hell our unleashed, revelation, sun melts thing, global warming, could be something to that

what does it mean to get yourself right with god, seeing life in more spiritual terms, brush with organized church in the past hasn’t been the best, a lot of truth in the original messages, reframe in a way that doesn’t involve rape

the trauma is all around us, some of us put up walls for one reason or another, so many people in the u.s. and the world in that predicament

it’s all around us, it is now, what do we do about it

all these people that are there are us, we’re sharing in their journey, it’s still there, what responsibility does that have, do we stock pile, prepare

maybe I’m just waiting for the answer, seems like there’s something, it’s right here, homeless problem right here

it’s been bringing people in the community together, everybody feels it

haven’t been able to fashion a long range thing, does put something in the air, spawned different community groups, whether we want to face it or not it’s there, there is suffering

affects you even if you live in a gated community

facinated by christian idea of service, the simple, the old mother teresa, franciscan way of serving people, see god in everything, go to the leper colonies, serve the poorest of the poor see that those people are god

very shamanic, recognizing, we’re all part of the same body, when you take care of the people who are the most needy,

there is a lot of overlap in the fundamental christian messages and the shamanic messages that are very powerful

humans are always looking for that new thing, speaking more to myself, grew up in catholic background, new appreciation by shamanic means, entheogens,

we think we’re discovering something new, but just going back to where we’re starting from

love, peace, service, basic messages, a lot of mainline christian groups in united states, a lot of beauty in that

I have this knee jerk reaction, the church doesn’t let women participated in the priesthood, or priest telling me what to do

messages in scriptures a lot of practices beautiful

what kind of messages really resonates with me

what I think is appealing to some of the shamanic messages, why I think they’re getting more popularity in this area

when you do a medicine ceremony, shaman isn’t telling you what to do, they’re just singing a song, the icaros

if you were a leader of a church or something, not so much be pedantic, or even thinking you have a flock, that you need to pastor to, within yourself you create this music, not so much the content, but the love and the energy, such a beautiful metaphor for future leaders

not worry about telling people things, but rather just serving people, creating the music to foster people’s positive energy

seeing the god in the other person, the god within you

shouldn’t single out priests, even somebody like us on a podcast talking about stuff

struggling with in my own life, what is my truth, what is my messages, what is my song, why am I doing this podcast

started off, interested in interviewing other people, socratic method, listening to them talk, asking them questions, within interjecting my own anything, what exactly is our role as a person

two daughters, what do I tell them about how to act, do I tell them no you shouldn’t do this, how do you convey the message in your own family

just create your own song that makes people want to join in on your song, not projecting energy outward, oh I have this truth and you need to see it to, more intangible, its an energetic thing almost

I still like to go to churches to hang out and feel the energy

if you’re in a concert, when you have a group of people sharing, all able to participate, not just one person lecturing, everybody passing around the rock, participate in the dialog, share something important to them

with social media, increased connectedness learn to capitalize on that and bring it together allow people to share their own voice, without the old model the priest was leading the flock, politician leading the flock, everybody

for me its an energetic thing, not so much based on content, there is a role that you do have to say something, not just it, when I was doing zen practice, go in for an interview with the zen priest they ask you coans or different things, always one response is silence, I always kept getting prompted to say, what is your voice, can sit there a bump on a log, its your life, participate in a meaningful way, you’re not gonna reinvent the wheel

part of my practice is to become more grounded, what better way to ground than in the ground, your shit is interconnected to everything, reconnecting you to the universe, you’re not separating from it, your shit is a fertilizers that grows the food you eat in a wonderful cycle

a lot of my practices are to intentionally reconnect myself

priests, men of god, good intentions, I just had the feeling the church as a whole was resisting reconciliation with victims, law suits, that’s the way our society deals with these transgressions

it doesn’t solve the priest trauma, that they obviously experienced to propagate more trauma on the victims if the church would admit it’s fault

that really should be the mission of the church, priests are part of the divine, victims are part of the divine, perpetrators, victims alike, not to shield themselves

just say my heart goes out to everybody in that trauma cycle

The Egalitarian Future of Spiritual Leadership with Vanessa Soulxo TPP245

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In this episode I’m joined again by Vanessa Soulxo for a discussion on the shift from hierarchical to egalitarian spiritual leadership

About Vanessa:

Vanessa LeMaistre is a Spiritual & Soul Empowerment Activist. Her platform provides a self-improvement/positive lifestyle brand to customers who are looking to feel whole within themselves. Vanessa has overcome a lot and believes if she could, so can you. Vanessa is very inspirational and she aspires to inspire. She provides inspirational youtube videos on her youtube channel: www.youtube.com/uareart and on her social media platforms she promotes exerts and positive affirmations from her upcoming book. You can find her on social media platforms such as Ig, snapchat, Twitter under the name: vanessasoulxo which is also the name of her website domain. Her Facebook is her first and last name: Vanessa LeMaistre

Please visit her website at:
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My Non Verbatim Notes:

VS: training in Colorado, graduating in may with resilient leadership program, focus on sustainability and social justice, great program, what are we gonna do with this kind of knowledge

interesting experience, expanded so much in ways, politically, climate crisis

download this morning: earth tells us how strong it is by showing us

we can damage, be so cruel with capitalistic ways, but mother earth is resilient

shamanic training, working with plant medicines

tarot reading, spiritual and intellectual, recommended naropa, eastern/western philosophy, perfect for someone who’s a seeker, however a lot of charlatans there

some professors spiritual leaders, major issues with…middle aged white men still stuck in the patriarchy

no longer this hierarchy, all about me, bow down to me and I take all the power, future of leadership, switch from hierarchy to more egalitarian, we’re all equal

taking away guru, bow down to me paradox, scarcity mindset

I have to be willing to accept when I need people who are more powerful than me

age of aquarius, take away old paradox of capitalism and hierarchy, one person on top

abusive treatment from spiritual leaders

Naropa’s in Boulder, spiritual hub, growing business, spiritual businesses, people are capitalizing on it, most of the people are fake, heartbreaking to see cultish behavior, the more followers a person has, the more manipulation

people called out yoga teacher on her healing that needs to happen, she went bezerk

if you’re on a leadership platform of any level, you should be ok to be called out, no body’s perfect

if you say I’m a healer, I’ve healed everything you’re a liar

witness middle aged white professors, spiritual leaders

ego thing

TP: professors should get paid on a curve, based on votes from students to balance the power

VS: students, pests, total followers, have no sense of self

spiritual jabs

you don’t throw jabs at students

you’re not coming from a kind place, so shut the fuck up

TP: can draw upon traditions of sadistic initiation and humiliation

the fuckery of Tibetan Buddhist, secret sex cult, academic analysis of distortion of men being in monastic chastity, creepy manipulators, collusion, hexes, spells, death threats

VS: last thing you want to do is be manipulating people by throwing spiritual jabs, because those cuts hurt deeper

plant ceremony circles, cultish mentality, manipulation, shaming everyone that comes there

are you actually doing the work, shows you really have so much work you need to tend to

forget you

TP: need to be roasted more often not less often if you have power

enlightenment, be kind and not criticize everything

Deepak Chopra, non-judgment

mind hacks, positive/constructive inner voice redirection

VS:

shambala center scandals, male dominated institutionalized sectors, zen buddhism, so male dominated

sexual tension is real, things are going down in an ill way

really sad

woman of color, not many at all in the spiritual industry in America, so much of what has arose has come from indigenous cultures even African indigenous cultures, raped, stolen

TP: sages, saints, prophets, messiahs, too much to ask of pantheon of god men, why isn’t there an exalted female voice representing the divine goddess or earthly embodiment

collective messiah, sisterhood witch coven, actually has each other’s backs, hard to find, not about most money, biggest boobs, clearest skin, politics are distorted, only thing I’ve seen work is magic mushrooms, tone down that ego

collective of empowered righteous medicine women, collectively channel a bigger voice

VS: we’re not sustainable, that paradigm is no longer sustainable, not balanced

Egypt: ancients believed when a man achieved a high amount of knowledge spiritual and power, he would be allowed to wear a long haired wig to symbolize that he had reached a certain level of that equal to a woman

behind every successful man is a strong woman holding him up, keeping him balanced, bringing him peace

recognizing each other’s strengths

look at all these buildings, not sustainable

machismo, misogynistic mentality, disrespecting yourself

you’re describing the woman in the house that I’m initiating into

not getting vibe of competitive, ego, money power, real sisterhood, shocked right now

TP: not an economy of male attention, have each other’s back, like links of armor together

VS: there was one guy that they where gonna bring in to initiate into our house, mother of the house started asking for dreams, said she had dreams that were very revealing about him, how he was betraying and backstabbing, the way the sister’s joined it was unbelievable, if anyone messes with any one of us, we’re all gonna have each others back

TP: dream of goddess temple , powerful men, bow down to fem domme’s

VS: that’s what we need, systems are so broken, education, judicial, health, how can we bring in more divine masculine, and divine feminine, lacking, how can we merge spirituality with these systems for greater collective awaking

TP: divine feminine is coming through no matter what, divine masculine, it’s gonna be a struggle, to topple the demonic overlords, if you could push a button to dissolve homophobia, divine masculine would fill hearts of all men on earth

men want to play with witches, gotta give each other coconut oil massage first

VS: amazing people, transgendered, no how to bring in both, balanced, gurus, two spirited, amazing human beings, kind, empathetic, understanding things differently

TP: tantric alchemy, triangle, masculine feminine bottom corners, ascension of kundalini, meet and become one at the top

VS: back in 2017, working at crystal shop in venice, beach, santoria woman comes in calls me out, you’re haitian, already reclaimed you, just haven’t initiated you yet, I was doing my own spiritual thing, predicted I would be working with plants

when joined program, friend invited me to a cacao ceremony, I’m thinking I’m gonna do chocolate, heard it opens heart, makes more loving, there’s a fire pit, middle of night, circle, passing around green powered, why is this green, whatever, dark paste to put on gums, must be cacao, intense vulnerable experience, beautiful

wasn’t cacao, that was coca, in concentrate form, door way led into whole path with medicines, microdosing with magic mushrooms, ayahuasca, universe is smart, had I known it was coca I would have been like no I’m not doing that

TP: decriminalization nature movement, entheogens decriminalized in Santa Cruz,

dance with haitian priestesses, throughout development, haitian shamanic revolution, invocation, deities, ancestors, spiritual revolution, not marx, not communism, party line, indigenous, totally

VS: all this stigma about what voodoo is, that is how they won the revolution in 1804 no other black free nation until 150 years later, cecile fatiman, pig ceremony started the revolution, shamanism, paganism, trance like states

what led me to this path, haitian priestess voodoo initiation, getting into plants, connecting with ayahuasca, beautiful experience for shipibo, saw me, called to that medicine, wanna find who I’m gonna learn from

got back from jungle, grandmother, what are you doing in the jungle taking medicine, pagaism, witchcraft, when that happens, when you’re called its not you, you’d not choose voodoo, voodoo chooses you

TP: you do you and voo doo you

VS: lineage is calling you, ancestors wanted you to leave California to get you some where calm and quiet so they could start tapping in, all these dots started connecting

researching portals, deities, very powerful, not spirits you want to take lightly, have a lot of sincerity, they can get upset if you disrespect them, I’m learning a lot

mother of house did a reading, can’t just pay to be a high priestess, spirit needs to confirm initiation, its not for everybody

born into hatiain lineage

grew up with mallato family, strong french presence, history of haiti, didn’t allow voodoo, combinations of saints because they were not allowed, raised catholic, all about white is right, american dream

had to come to truth with myself, with my soul, intense level I’m being called

TP: mixed healing arts

VS: I’m a make up of 3 races, I feel equally connected to plant medicines, and bringing in hatiain high priestess patheon, making it my own modernized way, very empowering, I go march 10th, I’ll be back the 24th, that initian is pretty intense, you’re told mysteries, I don’t even know what I’m getting into

Bufo toad, 5me0 dmt, more powerful than ayahuasca, really excited

TP: you’re feeding your fire with the antics of the patriarchs, so shallow, so obvious, paradox of ego, just the desire to destroy ego is a from the ego

VS: constantly check myself, not doing it primarily for me, doing it for others service, finding that balance, last thing I want to do is be a slave to my calling, constant checking am I happy, will this make me happy, wanna be happy getting up everyday doing the work, take some of the me out

TP be frugal, live simply, if majority of net worth being directed towards healing, transformation, liberation, you’ll continually get resupplied, just like a garden

VS: plan, determined to have a church, self love center, don’t want a podium, just sit down in a circle and just talk, everyone welcome, atheists are welcomed, that’s how I’d bring people to god, hopefully empower each other, getting closer to our truth

balance of old traditions but being radical, finding balance

really called to go to l.a. really scary, demonic forces there

TP: align with nature you’ll be blessed, beach, ocean, hiking trails, protected wild areas, wild coast line

things about la that do drive me crazy and make me sick

I been here chasing dreams, having enough come true I’m ready to chill more, enjoy fruits of labor put in over the course of almost 20 years, done really well, almost like vegas too, if you don’t have your shit together it can tear you apart and drag you down

VS: living in heart of hollywood, studio apartment so peaceful, 3 am , yelling, toxcity, energy so intense, I have to be shielded on another level spiritually to go in and do the work

TP: have a yard, ecosystem you can draw from, rather than be stacked in an apartment, co-op houses, yard spaces garden sanctuary, capture rain water, transforming homes, eco sanctuaries

where ever you go don’t lose that connection to the soil, have more freedom, hang clothes out to dry, pets will have a better life

you can be safe from crime, but not safe from neighbors who don’t want you to grow food in your front yard

east of l.a. river, parties all night long, soulful dance music

pacific palisades, between malibu and santa monica, coast line, trails, less population, still half hour away from sunset strip, if you want to play that game, it’s a gamble, tango with the matrix

VS: start small, hopefully get congregation to build it up, lets expand, love to have a store too, do workshops, give people opportunities to shine there light, on different things, diversity, inclusivity, reinvent our current

 

Santa Cruz Decriminalizes Plant and Fungi Entheogens TPP236

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In this episode I share the audio recording from the Santa Cruz city council vote that decriminalized entheogens:

Resolution declaring that the investigation and arrest of individuals twenty-one (21) years of age and older involved with the adult personal use and personal possession of entheogenic psychoactive plants and fungi listed on the Federal Schedule 1 list be amongst the lowest priorities for the City of Santa Cruz.

Read more at:
https://merryjane.com/news/santa-cruz-just-decriminalized-all-natural-psychedelics

Lab Report: Shaktification as Non-Invasive Demonectomy TPP232

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sexual-healing-with-psychedelic-goddess-worship In this episode I share a lab report from mid 2019 which documents an important break through in my sexual healing with psychedelic goddess worship research. The mixed and mastered version of the Psychedelic Goddess Worship track on the Sexorcism the Tantric Opera album proved to have powerful potentials to induce what I’m calling “shaktification as non-invasive demonectomy. My (non-verbatim) show notes are below.

Non invasive is used for surgeries, the body is not penetrated

Man cave, goddess temple lave, unclinical lab, produced an album to create the vibrational landscape for a non-invasive demonectomy on my self

multiple sessions, increasing doses’

could solve the problem of how do you induce a non-invasive demonectomy, that’s effective, unlike the techniques of the dominant paradigm of exorcism, the catholic church and their protocols

with an understanding, time does not heal, if untreated the infections only get worse and in the case of men, there’s a higher potential of survivor-perpetrators

for women, less likely to harm others, but will often harm themselves, that’s the handy work of the demons that were inserted into them in acts of abuse and molestation

demons express themselves in female survivors much less as sexual offense

in males, less divine feminine grace, cults of gang rape, women don’t usually form thug cults of rape

don’t know of any witches who are known to have done that

but men, gang up and bully runts on football team, and geeks in the classroom, they gang up and rape the cheerleaders, their so susceptible and when you get survivors in that mix, its that much more of a cascading effect

it should be axiomatic, if that infection doesn’t get disinfected immediately, than you are harboring, just like Geiger shows us, is the “face huggers”, that’s what he’s talking about, it’s all demons, their parasites, inject themselves into human host, sexual aliens, if there was a xxx Giger, that’s me, showing what’s going on

gotta figure out how to interrupt the larval cycle, to interrupt the propagation

some times sexual penetration is appropriate, however there are times when it’s not

there’s a magical power that flows through, the goddess kali shaki, and the magic mushroom, what I can demonstrate and have footage of, is capturing the rapid seizure like convulsions that occur with the shakti is invoked, not just shivers, not just normal kriyas, a controlled seizer

a presence of mind, it’s possible to surrender, but be prepared, yoga, martial arts, dancing, landscaping, know my body and have agility to phase in and out of possession states

not faking, not faking, not a parlor trick, not a magic trick, not putting on a show

I have the ability to shut it off, goddess has been earning trust from me so I can surrender more
use elbows to brace neck, stay ahead of the sense of more intense movements

set and setting for combat training, you could use padding, or train on the beach

design consciousness of low impact, the sand absorbs impact, avoiding pavement

expecting to trash around, expecting to be taken for a ride, do due diligence to be warmed up enough

not be in a contortion to snap their neck, people doing jiu jitsu, they’re aware of when they’re in danger, and maneuver out of it

gotta be bad ass ninja warriors

it’s possible, I’ve proven to myself, that adding more people is beneficial, but in the dilemma of when you can’t add anybody, what do you do, well this seems to be it, maybe not the only thing, but could be more effective than calling the local priest exorcist

they did the deeds themselves and now they’re gonna do the exorcism, you brought the demons you’re not taking them out

sexorcism that doesn’t involve any inappropriate touch or any touch at all

it happened to me to a degree never before experienced

it’s happened before, but not to this extent

she’s like an infinite array of octopoid, insectoid, she has the ability to move you in a lot of different ways

she’s going in and doing a demonic abortion

what she’s doing is what an abortion doctor would do

as sad and heartbreaking as it can be, that’s what goddess kali is doing the demons in the chakras, she’s sucking and pulling them out

these are fully formed, although I do see often that there are multiple life stages, there are hatchlings, old ones, etc. we don’t know how long they live

shamans probably have a clue, but we’re grasping in the dark, but that’s what’s happening

if you watch sexorcism the tantric opera where there’s a lot of hand laying on people, sometimes just the aura, it’s a lot of handy work, but what has been achieved to an extreme with me, is that with the track “psychedelic goddess worship” singing the mantras along with it, its raiding the demon nest, allowing kali to do the demonectomy, extracting these violent creatures, shifts in the amount of demonic load, measurable, this is like colonics

I think I made an important discovery, a hands off, solo, non-invasive demonectomy, you may want to try this yourself and go from no medicine, to cannabis low to high dose, then mushrooms low to high dose, and experiment with the music, looping the track psychedelic goddess worship in setting where you have people watching over you, and you’re surrounded by cushions, and you have martial arts/yoga background, be agile like a cat to prevent injury, if that’s you and you’re suffering and you’ve not found healing in toxic relationships, in psychiatric drugs, or yoga postures, or vipasan, or being saved by Jesus, or getting an exorcism, or singing hare krisna, or doing a detox, I say try everything else , this is a last resort

these are things that I”ve seen that will turn you white, like Winston from Ghost Busters

old school orthodox sri rama krisna order kali worshipers say things like think about it, people go to kali when they’re crushed, when they’re hating life because “it least there will be peace”, they’re harangued by demons, you go to the kali temple and there is peace, hopefully not a patriarchal priesthood

I emphasis female kali priestesses in my work, trying to get back the secret mantras, and decode the art,

the braminization of the goddess, “she was a tribal deity who was absorbed into vedic pantheon”

she was/is a village goddess

decolonize your tantra

get back to psychedelic village level goddess worship

occupying armies, languages, soma, occupying, absorb goddesses take them away from the people then feed it back to them and it’s all corrupted, bastardization by priest craft, put in empire of ego, male ego

I bow down to women who are priestesses, sorting it out, pagan villager medicine woman shamanism craft, that’s what we want to get all the way back down to

the pure hearted matriarchs of the village, witch craft

I’ve said it enough times now, how to translate this, we need to give a voice to the witches and let them do it laboratory conditions

I’m just the messenger, the source is the dakinis and yoginis, who are in state of grace simply because they dont’ have a penis that can be weapons

I don’t have a clue about what was really going on with the cult of the 64 yoginis but there seems to have been a ratio of men to women where women are quite obliged to run the show, quite obliged to minimize and intelligently design with the shiva energy, operating within their coven

I will only get better and better at doing the scholarship on these claims

women are blessed and women are cursed and we need to address this without the backlash

we can be brothers in prostration to the goddess, and experience our masculinity in its most potent form

we’ll get hardest erections when we worship the goddess

ritualized sexual matriarch, that’s probably a useful simplified term

a more rapid depiction

high dose mushrooms, safe-ish setting

looping the track psychedelic goddess worship, mixed and mastered version

never before got as far

turned into an astral battlefield, astral combat, very much like scene in big trouble in little china, when Lo Pan fights Eg Shen, astral avatars battle on their behalf

I got into contortions, spontaneous mudras, like speaking in tongues with your hands, never been trained to do, never done before, seeing my fingers become like black widow spider legs, beautiful sacred geometric formations, like weaving a spider web, as I invoke her more and sing her in more, I become what looks like a mix of black soldier fly and cobra, slithering sounds, autonomically happening the more I surrender, seeing myself as sort of dragon fly mixed with black widow, seeing now how you can allow yourself to be, in a benevolent manner, but possessed, so she can devour demons through you

co-presence between dimensions, I had to think omg this is the fly, I’m Jeff Goldbloom, but that was so gruesome and hideous, but this was beautiful, how could that be re-imagined so it was totally beautiful…so the triumphantness of the incredible hulk, still shocking and bizarre, but whats’ the more beautiful transformation where you see it as totally beautiful and elegant, nothing horrific about it, what would that be, there’s a shape shifting character.

it’s like super mario brothers when you get the tanuki suit, you jump on the mushroom and then basically you become big, you go fast, you have super powers you jump high, game play is enhanced, and with the tanuki suit you get this magic item, this feather, if you get it you can jump and almost fly, you get lift off like a helicopter, its been a long time but the thing I’m pointing to is, imagine you have the power to shape shift, as powerful as incredible hulk but not as nasty and freakish as the fly, it’s not like a horror movie like Freddie Kreuger, nightmare on elm street part two where he comes out of the guy and just sheds him, that’s the ugly version, that’s not what I’m talking about, she’s elegantly sharing my space, I am her she is me, queen bee, cobra snake, transitioning to that with the beauty and elegance of the tanuki suit. Maybe in the Star Trek movie where Kirk ends up getting it on with a shape shifter, she was totally hot, she was actually a beast that can shape shift, imagine that you could totally shape shift into a creature and have it be seamless

it’s possible to invoke the goddess and for her to embody you, and not just putting on make up and pretending to be her iconic formation
I normally see her outside of me, this time more than ever, she enveloped me, I’ve been enveloped by her, clamped down on me, fucking me to purify my chakras, but still being outside of me, penetrating, workign through me, she can swim through me, but like being enveloped by a jellyfish, about to get teeth into my chakras

but this way, she is in my like thundercats

another bad version is like the Edgar suit from Men in Black, demons wear me like the Edgar suit, but Kali wears me to extract the demons from the Edgar suit so I can just be Edgar again, then she’s in the suit, but not possessing to do harm

Sufiana didn’t report becoming the insectoid being, but she described herself rolling out her tongue and hissing, the deity possession trance state, the shamanic healing state

I documented that process later, being very limited financially, very limited with legal sanctioning if at all, having some blessing and bold outlaws to join forces with me, not me manipulated a cult, but me offering educational tools, not involving my dick

I keep my pants on for people who are not my lovers, is that fair, that’s probably a fair way to say it, if you’re my client my pants are on, if you’re my lover, that’s negotiable

back to the non-invasive…able to move massive chunks, being rattled like a freight train, by her, squeezing and working with her to do the contracts, she’s doing the work of the abortion doctor, while I’ll in contracts and pushing out at the same time, it’s so harsh, but you know there have to have been abortions throughout time in crude conditions, certainly not modern legally sanctioned conditions, where the intent was to kill the fetus during the contractions of labor

she’s an insectoid alien goddess, with blackskin, and bejeweled eyes, like the tantric scriptures say, read the 1008 names of Kali and you’ll see the depictions

I need artists to help me with this, graphic novelists, visionary artists

if you could see a woman in labor, shaking convulsing, contracting, seizures and convulsion and simultaneously a female abortion doctor reaching in so as not to leave pieces inside trying to get everything out in one whole piece and eating that thing, but it’s not a baby it’s not in the womb, it’s demons in the chakras

an interplay between goddess kali as the hungry abortion doctor, it’s her doing what she’s evolved to do which is eat demons, I’m serving my demons to the goddess,

an interplay of surrender, and the embodying of the goddess through allow her energy and body to enter your body in a way that is non invasive, she is invasive but in a good way and in a welcomed way,

but no instruments, no cutting devices, no fingers, hands, sexual contact by humans, that’s the best way to describe what’s happening
been in this state many many times, what was different this time was the force

this was the first time I was able to do what I wanted to do all these years, was able to carry it out, to a potent degree, get a massive chunk of demonic biomass, with love and power and strength and courage of the goddess inside of me, her power to purge me, with her mandibles, ready to feast, and it being a much much bigger portion, to the degree that I got the sense that her stomach was full, it had only been oderves up to this point, they were just taking out small grains of rice with chopsticks, she was going in their with her salad tongs to get massive platefuls at once, she got so full, I felt like okay I’m exhausted, she’s full, but after these big chunks got out, hadn’t happened before

very light, blinding to the 3rd eye, sheaths my vision, no more seeing the demonic monsters coming out of me, that make alien look like bambi, all of it, once this massive chunk was taken out gets replaced by this beautiful white light, scaring me, did I damage my optic nerve, I’m just seeing pure white, fuck, there’s some kind of damage…no this is the loving light, dont’ freak out and panic now, go with it, enjoy

instructed to use my own hands, placed fingers against root chakra at the perineum, while the white light was there, use the power to seal the chakra, using massage, using this light healing energy, to use mudras, palm chakras, finger chakras, to do this healing work, like cauterizing a wound, the shakti through palm chakra and finger chakras whill the white light is there, wow, fuck yeah, anatomical surgical orthodoxy, what we think about when we talk about a chakra tune up

these analogies to auto mechanics and surgeons are very apt

you’re doing the work with her, auto-non invasive demonectomy

I had the power and free will to move my body, re-adjust for comfort, drink some water, get up and just make sure the door was locked, again, not ideal conditions

there you have it, what I’ve been working on for years, one of the most glorious since 5.5 year ago initiation with Sufiana

I would like to just be living in the world that we created, to never have been separated by financial duress, within the realm of reasonable periodicity, with medical staff, scientists, medical researchers, the Bangladesh UN security force, that’s what I fantasize about, having the support to do it right

this is like version 0.0001 of the technology, this is not ready, I don’t know what it’s ready for, if you’re suicidal right now and it’s a question of you killing yourself and you dabbling into what I’m talking about, I’m willing to take that risk, this isn’t medical advice, this isn’t therapeutic/psychiatric advise, I’ll make all the disclaimers, in the spirt of YOLO, (actually its not yolo because you live many times) don’t do this in the spirit that everybody wants to see the machine elves that Terence Mckenna talks about, this is a little more extreme than that, do this because it’s life and death for you right until we get the point with research to where so mild version exists, like salsa there will be mild, medium, hot, warning label, extreme hot

if you want to dabble because you’re an extreme case of demon infection, they’re in those hard to reach spots, there’s that song where my demons hide, you want to know, It’s possible to find out, I’m not gonna tell everyone to follow my path

Kali Mandir satsang, a lot of these scriptures, don’t think that they’re all agreed upon by all the priests and priestesses, there are things that are written in stone, but a lot of the scriptures were people exploring and taking notes, like a yogi could be saying “when I said this mantra, at this place and this time in this way, I got reversed gang banged by hot astral dakinis, and I don’t know if this will happen to you, this is me I’m doing me, you do you, I don’t want to implant thought forms and skew it, and contaminated the control group, I’m just trying to build on my own research, I love what the yogis say, talking about female astral non human entities, coming down purifying his soul and doing all this healing work, sounds like what I’m talking about and if he were on mushrooms he’d be able to describe in greater detail, or maybe he was a yogi that attained an endogenous psychedelic state

nothing new here, I’m saying things that have been suppressed for by patriarchy demonic war lords for 1000s of years, but were open source tech as sexual shamanic witchcraft, held by cultures of the world, just business as usually to maintain a shamanic community

when its a matter of infestation of lower chakras, there’s some modality that’s not creepy, predatory or abusive, to somehow empower people to have auto-non-invasive demonectomy sexorcism, auto invasive demonectomy sexorcism, I’ve milked my own prostate, kali possessing me, shards of light coming in, healing, demons coming out, most stunning gorgeous arrays, beauty is subjective, every woman and aspiring woman who ever put on make up with the intent to beautify herself, what every single one strives for is what can be seen when you invoke the goddess with these mantras, and with 3rd eye open with mushrooms

me doing me, phenomenologically, in my own bubble, the most beautiful feminine facial features, and graceful sensual movement, and just every woman or aspiring woman aspires to be, that’s what I’m given, that’s what I’m seeing and if it wasn’t for seeing that I would have ended me life a long time ago on this journey, the brutal beautiful truth is that you gotta go through hell to get to heaven, for the sake of what I’m saying now, I’ve seen the most grotesque creatures I could ever possibly imagine, and take all the monsters ever made in art and film and multiply that by a hundred, and you maybe will get close to how freakish and grotesque and disturbing and mortifying, miracle you’re not catatonic seeing this, the antidote to that hideousness, that makes it tolerable, to look at it as you’re pulling it out, the unpleasantness of removing a tape-worm, the unpleasantness of disinfecting that wound with that pus in it, and all of that, I know there are places in the world where there are blood parasite or urinary tract parasites, pulling a barbed fish parasite out of your urethra, that should feel pretty hideous and I bet that what I see in these ceremonies induces a similar level of mortification, disgust that you would have if you had to do that, while I’ve had to endure that hideousness, if you ever see the electron microscope of blood parasites, imagine if they were just, if you were in a realm where you were shrunken down to be in a massively dense cluster of all kinds of different blood parasites the ones with the circular mouths, and the ravor sharp thorny looking teeth, and weird suckers and pincers, the most alien, bizarre, monstrous, aquatic looking, arthropod looking blood parasites, imagine you were shrunken down a million times and being eaten alive but what, in scale wise becomes these giant giant monsters, then that’s what it feels like and looks like in there, I’m afraid to teach anyone to do what I have done because I fear that they would ever come back from that state of visual disturbance to where they wouldn’t just immediately slit there own wrists and literally rip there own eyes out,not knowing that they can’t reach far enough in to pull their pineal gland out, are you gonna crack open your head and pull your fuckin 3rd eye out and stomp on it, that’s what you’re gonna wanna do if you fuckin see the shit I’ve seen, omg, its nothing the shamans of the amazon don’t see every fucking day, it’s business as usual to have to confront these grotesque forms of life, if you know that you are bigger than them and you step back and you go no I’m not the shrunken millionth of a size me inside of of their world, their inside of my world and I can step up to them like standing up to a bully and I can exorcism them and I can purge them with the medicine, of course you have icaros in south America , and you have mantras in India, how to have syncretic shamanism, sacred sexuality and healing work, lets bring the best of the cultures and not be left with the patriarchal douche-baggery of suppressing the feminine

seeking the path of the goddess here we are, here I am

I get to see the antidote to that hideousness which is the extreme beauty

what makes it all worth it is the sweet beautiful blessed honor of beholding and being imbued with and making love with and being possessed by and suited up by, I have been suited up by the most loving most beautiful, most exquisitely constructed bioarchitecture deity, I don’t know maybe you gotta be the kind of person that things ants and bees are cute

this is the way to look at it, if you’ve ever thought of how in cartoons they’ve made ants and bees look pretty and feminine, and then sexualize that and m ake it into a super hot, goth, metal, sort of like, matrixy club, goth industrial club, shining latex, everything we think about the dark erotic, she is the dark erotic cartoon bee spider, just a cuteness and sexiness and a otherworldliness and an alienness, how many sexy beautiful loving aliens have we seen in sci fi, someone tell me, some show me some, I’m sure they’re in different comics and things, some of the arists they’re doing it, they’re bringing it, astral ecology with Tom Denney, his artwork is the cover of my book, you only have to wait until my book is released to see what I’m talking about, the beautiful feminine alien insectoid goddess who will turn you on, turn you inside out, but but you right back together, surgically restore the soul parts, tuck your chakras back in to your astral body, kiss you goodnight, tuck you in, all the works, the motherly maternal aspect, the sexual healing dakini wild, again, I’m saying nothing new, because you go to an orthodox kali puja and they are saying kali we love you you are the mother, you are the lover you are the friend, and not at all invoking, you hear the word mofo all the time in this culture, all over the world, I don’t know what’s going on there, this is not a Fredian Oedeple kink or neurosis, this is very different and it’s it’s own thing, I kind of went through my messiah complex already, at first I wanted everybody to fuckin know this, because it defeats the tyranny of all patriarchal world religions, more powerful more profound, more radical, more anarchistic, more revolutionary than any prophet, any christ, any saint, in buddha, any yogi,none of them delivery this unless they’re deep into the worship of kali or the tantric goddesses, of which kali is often considered to be the mother matriarchy, the queen bee of the many goddesses of the tantric pantheon, which is influenced with the vedic pantheon but has interplay ultimately with the village goddesses

the beauty is out there, the truth is out there, the beauty is in her, the truth is in there, you’ll see her the way I see her in Tom Denney’s book and on the cover of my book and I didn’t commission him to do that, he did that because he is tuned in as an artist, the way Terence Mckenna describes it to be an artist who sees the future, who can tap into the astral plane, or have the astral plane tap into them, wish me luck

pray for my protection, I’ll be doing my best to sheriff the perimeter of our reality and clean up the infection sites and to fortify the souls of the next generation and to really hospice the souls of this generation, where I am feeding and nourishing many goddesses and keeping myself as humble as possible with as small as a physical footprint of property ownership as possible, with as few possession as possible, and if surrender my money and wealth as it comes through as I have been doing to my beloved priestesses and trust that as long as they hold the sword above my hands and my head and they chose not to let the sword fall on to my arms and onto my neck than I will be continuing to do my work in a good way, and they will be the beneficiaries, they will be my sexecutioners if the time comes, each with their sharpened swords, ready to take a whack, so be it

Exploring the Politics of Crypto and Psychedelics with Mike Kokal TPP224

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In this episode I’m joined by Mike Kokal of the End of the Road podcast. He interviewed me a while back, click here to listen. I’ve been a fan of his podcast ever since and have been thoroughly enjoying his diverse and holistic array of guests and content. I invited him on the podcast to talk about his approach to modern trends of crypto and psychdelics as a lawyer. He offered a lot of important insight into how the system works and how we can improve and transcend its current form.  He shares a holistic and balanced perspective on a wide range of controversial issues. I was grateful for his help to refine some of my hopes and visions for the future.

About Mike:

Mike Kokal is the host of the End of the Road Podcast which showcases an eclectic mix of guests working with ordinary and non-ordinary states of consciousness in the finite playground we all find ourselves in: “The Horizons we strive to touch but are already there.”

Mike is also practices civil litigation and is a patent attorney. His professional bio can be found at: https://secure.heylroyster.com/attorneys/details.cfm?attorneyID=90

The End of the Road Podcast, which is nearing 100 episodes, can be found here are wherever you listen to podcasts: https://endoftheroad.libsyn.com/

Beta Testing Innovations in Hypnotic Trauma Healing with Ravyn Ryder TPP220

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In this episode I’m joined by the illustrious and alluring Ravyn Ryder, a highly accomplished guidess of so many things pleasurable, shamanic, entrepreneurial and much more. In this episode we do a bit of an experiment whereby I volunteer to help beta test her innovative therapeutic modality involving eroticized hypnosis for healing. We catch up a bit on her endeavors, commiserate about the need for healers to do self-care, then she facilitates my opening up about deep childhood trauma, ill-fated sexual initiations, negative hard wiring through early stages of masturbation, how I may be able to use hypnosis techniques to re-parent myself retroactively, and much more.

This was a bit of a preliminary session in that it was mostly for me to open up to her so that should could take my input and go back to her alchemical laboratory formulate a program customized for my exact needs. So this is technically part one of what may be a multi-part series where she demonstrates the scope of her offering. I, of course am thrilled and honored to be blessed with this opportunity to be a part of her creative evolution, and I’ve been wanting to explore the hypnosis field much more as my experience has been minimal to date.

The hope is that our spelunking the sexual underworld and taking a proactive and constructive approach to confronting the collective subconsciousness of rape culture will lead to healing and transformation for all victims, perpetrators, and the future generations.

Please visit her website and check out her recent blog post on the effects of porn:

https://ravynryder.com/spirituallyscientificsexblog/effectsofporn

About Ravyn:
Ravyn Ryder is an Erotic Artist, Writer, and Sensual Educator. She has worked in the past professionally with men, women and couples as a Sensual Bodyworker, Dakini, Dominatrix, Courtesan and Long-Term Companion.

She is the creatrix of Body Ryding®, a sensual massage training sequence used to empower women by teaching erotic body slides, full body massage and the art of seduction.

She is a trained Tantric Educator and is a certified Practitioner and Trainer in the Art of Bondassage®. She has studied Swedish, Thai, Lomi Lomi, and Tantric massage with amazing healers all over the world.

She has worked with Shaman’s in Central and South America doing entheogenic medicine work in constant pursuit of personal growth and eager humbleness to learn more about the divine inner and outer universe. She has just recently returned from a 4 month stint in Central America and with a desire to shed light on both the beautiful and ugly complexities of healing with plant medicines, she is working on her first novel—an intimate memoir of her recent experience.

She has a degree in Behavioral Science with a minor in Marketing. She is a certified Life Coach, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Practitioner and is trained in Neuro-Linguistic Programming. Along with bodywork and training, she offers personal coaching to men, women and couples desiring to cultivate more pleasure in their lives.

Trick and Treat: Decoding Halloween with Devika the Techy Tantrika TPP219

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In this episode I’m joined again by Devika the Techy Tantrika for a Halloween themed show where we explore cross-cultural approaches to the spirit world beyond the veil of waking consciousness. We discuss the phenomenon known as “black tantra” and compare notes on how concepts of good, evil, occultism, and more are dealt with in various tantric traditions. We look at the degradation of spiritual intelligence in the modern world, and the implications of turning your back on the spirit world. We question the notions of dark and black as negative and take a less dualistic perspective on the diverse natures of demons. Our discourse on the mystery of the dark goddess Kali leads to an effort to understand and decode the famed history of sacrificial practices. I share a few sensational headlines from the Indian press on scary stories of gurus practicing business as usual black magic to help remind the neo-tantra “bliss bunnies” that patriarchy has plundered the more feminist ethics of ancient shaktism.

About Devika:

Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.

You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika

Follow her Instagram at:
http://www.instagram.com/thetechytantrika

You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com

The Golden Child Movie Commentary with Devika and Sagrada TPP218

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In this episode I’m joined by Devika the Techy Tanktrika (devika-singh.com) and Sagrada, for a commentary on the movie the Golden Child which was a favorite movie of mine growing up and is a masterpiece of tantric sexual-spiritual education.

We share our common interests in the themes of the film and share thoughts as it rolls in the background on the significance of each scene as it relates to our life experience in tantra and beyond.

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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number so yeah it’s going to be around table Extravaganza with this Golden Child movie which is so near and dear to my childhood in which took me like 35 years to decode and now I realize everything everything I’ve ever cared to know about Tantra I learned all ready for my age of eight by Eddie Murphy so go figure you got between Eddie Murphy and and Barney the purple dinosaur you know you heard about that right amazing Barney the purple dinosaur yeah he’s that he’s a tantric sex healing master and you need provides a full-service tantric sex work for women who can afford the the billina and I guess yeah he’s just like he’s got Prana just to spare you know so I can check them out on Twitter to that’s how I that’s how I tracked him down sweet. One of these days we got ya at him and Eddie Murphy anytime you’re welcome on the township of podcasts do this tell us all about how it’s done cool so yeah then so we all at this point I’ve watched this movie probably a hundred times and you all have watched it probably one time each and I introduce it to you for devika because this is kind of like your stick is the the tantric Buddhism and the everything I started to learn from you and that was new to me about Tantra that was very much foodist into nature it would just match up to a lot of the symbolism and mythology and storyline of The Golden Child So before we get started with this this experimental commentary we’re just going to play it in the background and just react to it as it goes along it will will let people know where to queue it up from and make sure we’re all on the base of the same starting point but but before we do that would be great just to have a few thoughts of yours that we could just serve your kind of initial debrief analysis thought stream that comes from really having probably a lot more of a sense of what’s going on then the most people in Innisfil oh for sure you know I am looking at it and I’m Amazed by the accuracy of certain things in the sense that this was before the internet has access to your specialty Buddhist communities in this case but what I found particularly interesting is that I know I sent you this documentary called the on the steak and child and was created in 2008 and there was there was a lot of overlap in the sense because in The Golden Child we see this child but you know is said to be the sacred leader from you know prior life and the whole and I mean I don’t get too much into that part because we’ll see it anyways the beginning of the movie but this whole concept of finding this child because it’s important to their word to their community and there’s there’s so much historical in the bite behind that and I just found it amazing that they chose that seem to go along with in this movie I would love to know more about what inspired that this might be because there’s even like a you know we’ll see parts of the beginning where I’m just like yeah okay they they know what’s up they they have a pretty good understanding of the selection process wedding you know possible children who could be these leaders if they’re looking for so that’s pretty amazing and you know it at the same time this movie is also a testament to its time in the sense that it really is you know there are still a couple things that you know we wouldn’t I think this early due today would probably try to do better but I was still quite impressed by that and some of the relics what I saw in the shower I’m so yeah I’m really glad that you brought this phone to my attention bed awesome yeah it’s been accepted by I’ve been dreaming about for a long time cuz I somebody somebody besides me has got to enjoy this as much as I do and I feel like I haven’t found the found that tribe people that can see it from both both perspectives and you know the quick Point I’ve done a little bit of research into the origins of the just reading the Wikipedia and there’s also I’m going to digest the the the magic some notes on the Oliver Harper retrospective commentary where he did a review of the film and he brought up a lot of obscure film sack toys and things about it but but it is interesting to note that it was yeah it was originally intended to be a very serious kind of Adventure Thriller experience and then it’s I think somewhere relatively close to the last minute of getting close to production they just flipped the script Eddie Murphy came in and they decided to make it this way more tongue and cheek experience which totally works and it’s it’s just like so magical I just know when a movie has magic and when it just doesn’t and this just has it and it would not compute but it’s so after I think for westerners to have an entry point of the skepticism of anything mystical and then ething anything of that nature and so he gives you that sort of comic relief of how to approach this from as an American you know and American hero archetype to he’s like the wolf will go into it as we go along but but I will save us all feel free to to somewhat somewhat gracefully interrupt each other if there’s like an Uber we got to make a point about what’s going on cuz we can come in and get off them to the Weeds about about just exploring different aspects but if something comes up on the screen you don’t feel free to just like blurt it out and hopefully we won’t need deposit or back up or anything that could get confusing but I will just go along and and and do like the great says that the other commentators I really like that our form so so yeah without further Ado let’s see if we can kind of get a little bit synced up here so how about let’s try to get it to Missy we’re going at we’re at the point where it’s going to give the like Studio logo mountain range thing in like see see what happens like right after that way we can get pitch like the first title or something like that so so we’ll just let me try to keep it up after the Paramount sign or exactly what is like the first thing that happens right after and then we’ll start there so there’s a balance to the very very beginning of a so alright so we’re at the same point was just let it roll and then by all means tell us what we need to see you read between the lines I I certainly can’t a lot of stuff I wouldn’t pick up on so yeah translate what’s happening hey so it’s definitely taking place in a monastery them suspecting there intending a trailer to be into batter even the Paula because a lot of Tibetans did end up the fun facts or interesting fact rather there is a lot of Tibetan Monks in Nepal can you kill the audio on that sorry we’re going to just okay as you’re saying so much see her The Golden Child is actually a girl to I know that really yeah that is so cool because a lot of the times when we’re looking at actual Encounters of people looking for a previous leaders that usually layer usually looking for boys like I mean not explicitly stated but a lot of the children who have been found in these lineages are boys so that’s that’s pretty cool Russian Tea actually there is an ambiguity They Don’t Really emphasize whether the child has you know what whatever their gender is or non-gender so I think that maybe early makes this ahead of its time so she would give me information you have been sorry earthquake in Nepal a few years ago and they had in mythology that that there was a basically there was a goddess Temple that was spared and there was it a female child of devotion who was in that building and they kind of reaffirm their prophecy that that don’t don’t mess with the goddess Temple or you’ll get the rest you know is like a people were able to read into it what so we just saw some offerings be made and this is her actual Nala from a previous life and it’s really interesting how they did that cuz they gave them and they gave her those three to choose from and she knew which one was hers when she was knowing what that luggage was exactly having some sort of amnesia all right and then we’re going to see the power to restore life which is foreshadowing but we won’t spoil spoil it now she’s picking implements that there’s another process they think what they do they really cool before CGI really was a thing so they’re using real person just amazing to me so here goes the beginning of this raid and you never I guess if you knew more about the the the costuming that you might get some clues about where exactly they’re supposed to be from there or if they’re just like a ragtag band of goons working for the dark Lords of the Underworld did you have any sense of if they were representing some I mean like in Indiana Jones Temple of Doom they actually were explicit about that it was the thuggee cult that they were trying to represent what shall we say it in but there’s no real ID you seem like a good dark spiritual gangsters or something actually seen this sorrow costuming another Buddhist related media as well and I mean I see it I think of Siberian tribes but + communities but I’m very clearly there’s there’s obviously utility in having those typos wardrobe in cold areas right I just reminds me so much of a Game of Thrones character I was going to ask what what statue is behind can we see what statue is behind the child or is it just a question but I think you’re right like I was only imagine what they would have put me in tibetan Buddha but I honestly I can’t see it right now. Thing not to throw any any Asha monoculture under the bus but I know there is some extremely like Twisted Black time for coats out of there but it’s also the place that the word Shamanism comes from so it’s not all there is a lot of Tibetan black magic to there’s one Buddha who actually started off in tibetan black magic and his is a very long story will get into but eventually renounces it and goes on to the Buddhist no path and that’s basically his whole story this whole Jam so yeah there are there is there I mean in any for every lineage there’s always going to be you know a left pop right path dark path you know like there’s obviously always great Pops to right but yeah you’re going to get a variety of different paths with any any spiritual lineage really we we passed it a little bit but was there any significance to the cage are the reason why they needed to basically come like some from Destin yes I just like I would look like one of those Claws from Anarchy okay yeah I don’t know what to say about this what’s happening here it’s the pretty much exactly hey I’m all for the chunky asses I’m okay with this Ray why does he have to be ashamed of it he should be like seeing and dancing and worshipping the chunky asses as they walked by it’s so sad actually kind of seeing him just kind of being like okay I want to go now or you know so what we were referring to is this Montage that’s happening of American looks like l a Hollywood mostly and Eddie Murphy’s walking down the street putting up posters for a missing child who he’s he’s basically like somewhere in between I don’t think he actually is the cop maybe he’s an ex-cop but he’s like a private detective / Bounty Hunter / they caught ya like he puts Outpost reward for missing children so he’s some kind of like benevolent charitable Bounty Hunter kind of thing for lost children and they never really get into why that’s his thing but he’s definitely just plays the part very well as like a man on a mission and but he was at a newsstand and he finds a guy reading a porno magazine anybody makes fun of them in the car runs away and yeah he’s just reacting to everything going on and then we get to a point that I always I always drive to not be that guy but I know that I am so much like they make this I’m talking about right the host of the show who talks too much you are never liked that bad because that’s why I like doing your podcast like you know if you invite me I’m always grateful because I think you know if we always have good exchange mint got all three of us are here too because we’re not let you know I agree I think I mean you definitely let people finish what they’re saying then at least she let the message get across we can hold it for a sign you’re not the only the mic but this guy here I kind of like I kind of remember when there is like shows like this really everybody has 5 Seconds daytime kind of cable access that was the him being on a TV like daytime look like maybe cable access talk show talking about the missing child and giving you some background details and then it’s cutting to this gorgeous Tibetan scholar women who just is holding down her Shakti so hard and just stands out as a character that you would almost never see her stoicism but her sort of Mastery and self-mastery and discipline in her disgust with everything sloppy about the West is so spoken to wish I were a boy find interesting because this actress she’s actually Irish and Colombian and in herself I was like she’s doing really well with the part but I mean if it was today we have a lot of variety I feel it would be hit a little more home to the nationality I would think of all the record I think she did a great job with this everything you just said yes and I will say that that if I were to whatever part of my my time Trek Adventure in life has been has been asserted from the groove been carved by Eddie Murphy than this woman has appeared in my life in the form of three different people and you’re one of them but basically like her entire character has been like split into three of my real life movie characters so I give you I bow down to you for bringing bring a part of that that Juju and save us both for your wonderful Journeys thank you both for sharing through you know mediums like this thank you yes I did now we get into their she finds him she believes he’s the finder of the Sacred finder of lost children that the chosen one and he said Urban Dynamic with the kids playing basketball with and he thinks she’s crazy because she’s telling him he’s the chosen one he needs to go to bed to rescue a child thinks he’s smoking Scrolls or he thinks she’s smoking skulls and plays with her scroll that is like the prophecy and heroes it up like a joint and makes fun of her for having smoked it and says Topps rookie scrub yeah I don’t know maybe Hollywood at this time felt like Eddie Murphy was going to bring this to the you know the Blockbuster and it’s interesting you know the way Americans will bring up other cultures you know but also prioritize maybe things that we care about our culture it’s just interesting the cultural play but I guess they couldn’t be one story without the other apps maybe in the trees and maybe even to this day it doesn’t even happen where you know cultures are appreciated for what they are not made fun of you know and juxtaposition but yeah I seen this though happened in the 80s you know I wouldn’t have thought that there would be a movie like this at all I know it’s really a great movie that I ended up enjoying it a lot and I do think Eddie Murphy yeah I can imagine it without him it just it is so magical he just I think about the movies that that you can just feel it it’s a it’s a pass no pass on the magic test for for all films I thinking and this one it just Mi hours it’s kind of like a lost boys to say comedy and horror and vampire and she saw work but so this is now we’re going to see some fast and stuff so they are investigating this crime scene he was tipped off that these that there was a young woman he was looking for The Runaway teenager kind of got into the underworld is found having been used as a blood sacrifice to pollute to try to see the The Golden Child polluted blood and they’re in this occult looks like a squad of a scooter renting this kind of disheveled house and turned it into a Black Magic Ritual complex where they’re putting looks like Sanskrit spells in the walls and and very very creepy very very heavy vibes yeah it’s like black country graffiti it’s so funny because I mean you know even you know what the oatmeal hell this stuff will look at it and be like there’s something very visceral to me about it yeah I agree that’s it to me to the oatmeal really gross me I did look corny in a little bit and then you don’t want to explain a little bit later that it’s to put basically poison the child I thought it was specifically there has to be this writing has to surround the child and then they have to like ingest things and that’s how you diminish the prices vary it just seems like it came from probably inaccurate source of whatever this this tradition is or this yeah yeah I totally I know I was really sitting there thinking to myself well what where was the black what source material were they Consulting with because it is I think it’s creepy because I feel like there’s some accuracy you know to to what might have been written or passed down through oral lineages or you know something like that when it comes to black tan talking about somebody somebody with a real scholar that they must have consulted with in a probably a lot to interview them at some point someday if I would get to this podcast to the point where I have the ability to maybe not Joe Rogan status but a piece to the point where I can talk to people who has agents and things and a lot of these writers they’re pretty obscure it’s not like they’re going to be need to get to a million assistance to find them in all of these writers were just in The Hired Guns and Things so would love to get them on here but this is a great seeing where he’s really now having to Grapple with the occult and the skepticism of the otherworldly demonology that she’s bring to him very seriously so he’s just making sure that we’ve been through this deadpan but he has to just block everything that she’s saying and she has to just kind of like roll with the punches and hang in there did any of you like watch this and think of Donkey from Shrek sometimes like you need documents I look at it and think of his role as donkey and every movie okay so no she’s got him semi on board at least to make a few meetings visit some people to try to try to win him over that he’s the gold that he’s the the chosen one and the golden child must be rescued by hand The Chosen One according to scripture to help she wants to introduce him to some some folks some authentic folks who are going to help him get the picture and and so they’re going to this like a herbal store like a Medicine Shoppe and he’s going to meet this half dragon half human lady who was who’s very erotic and very very interesting absolutely said I love her but her story makes me a little sad though I do a little bit later I don’t want to I don’t want to lose the moment they have a quite a mix of different esoteric parts of different cultures so this is Chinese folklore there’s a combination happening here because there’s a lot of overlap right so with another guy you’re going to find them in South Asia so they can be especially in Nepal Tibet there is talk of them in China and also in Thailand and I believe in Bali as well we see variations of the lure of the Naga people which usually it’s interesting you’ll find good and bad right with naga in this case it sounds like the Naga they’re referring to our not-so-nice especially when we talked about the ancestry and how her lineage became part Naga because her was her grandmother that was raped by a dragon I think is part of the story so yeah so you know there are there is a lot of folklore about the not being good and then in Buddhism we do come across a lot of still some really interesting stuff weather connected to wisdom and wisdom bearing there’s a very well-known Naga Faker call Naga Kanya and she is an enlightened being who is a wizard bear but there is a lot of folklore just as equally about dog of people being you know the offense not behaving like a wisdom bear necessarily like they’re angry so they’re definitely walking through Chinatown right now so that was probably just within the range like you said if the overlap of different people mess up together representing all the different coaches there I think we missed a funny line where was looking at one of the preparations and he asked what it is and he says something you know he just died I’m not going to butcher that the word he says what he says good herb is good to keep the Yang up and he goes nothing wrong with my yang totally app for anyone who is doing erectile dysfunction herbal preparations for Tantra you know therapist and counselors you know this dick is Eddie Murphy dick joke about cheese in the middle movie so odd to me because there’s a lot of pain medicine that does deal with erectile dysfunction in a sexual performance talking about just this aspect of you know we can look at cultures up to a certain extent it after that they’re kind of their to me you know not comprehended but rather sometimes people just make fun of them I was just having a talk with somebody on this week this weekend about it about that but the sad fact is up to what extent do we the society allow cultures to really know provide what they have to offer you know especially religious practices so there’s a lot we still want to see happen with that right but I digress but I mean yes we we do have a long way to go I think still was true acceptance and understanding and curiosity I think that’s the major part all right so we’re catching up on a few things thank you yet for for sharing that and kitchen history he was he left that place and then he tried to invite her up to his place and it failed like it landed he landed on his ass with that it’s him and and she was very cold cold blooded when he asked again if she said no twice and then he pulled this act of trying to act like he was possessed by the spirits to tell her that you should go up there so it’s definitely like it’s sad because that’s like quintessentially what all of the country trucker earape artist guys do is like oh I am the spirit I’m the Divine Shiva and I’m channeling you know your instructions to there’s guys she will charge women thousands of dollars for their blowjob Enlightenment courses and so that’s like where that all starts but appreciate you know she’s like she’s really better boundaries we love to happen but it didn’t in the movie I was expecting that cuz I don’t know you know Ben we’ll get there we’ll definitely get there like the though they don’t be a I love to see that the XXX version but but that happens it happens in his dream though it’s funny he has that will get there but so now they’re there at this 441 some of these these black magic gun guys are basically they’re tuned in to what’s going on in there will do they have like a hideout now in La where they’ve taken a child to the US and now they’re doing this desecrated geometry later they could just hang out where they’ve set up multiple meditators who have this sort of triangulation of energy to basically block out his ability to astral project so he had he or she he or she that The Golden Child the golden kid is able to see and understand also telekinetic so meditating and praying to knock over that bullet blood being like that’s a nice look they got an expression yeah give me a break you’re not going to poison me I’m smarter than all you guys and waiting for one of them to fall asleep just stirring do all this the CIA black-ops MacGyver stuff and then also eating this sacred Leaf that’s nourishing and must based on some scriptures about how you could be meditating forever and only subsist off of like pot leaves and things so like the sunlight but are the the other and then a little bit of vegetation right just just to sustain oneself no one of the evil meditators fell asleep on the job and then like the CL is broken and now the opportunity to astral project and to commune with Eddie Murphy the chosen one is going to create this difficulty for him to to shake the mysticism off and so the the glowing orb emerges and he can see the what do you thinks is maybe a dream but he basically was stirred up to go and see this I think very good effects for the time for sure it’s a see you in the astral projection and I will tell you that there was a time when not to get too personal but I had the same exact experience of you appearing to me and the middle of the night as an apparition and within seconds I got a text message I got a message from you on Facebook and it was experience that’s so cool naturally you know that. Your sis. Power start to arrive to help stabilize that energy so it’s pretty much a magical thing is pretty amazing and so I have this part in my book about you know how to really heal yourself from what you thought maybe of you know how house Gary masculine energy might be some time I’m sure there are practices that really going to that and yeah that’s really a good part of my work you because oh man I mean we are in need of some major balance here on this planet and in this life in this world I so I really feel the more that we can Embrace anybody and I’m leaning to the feminine that is rising right now the more we can scan with that the more that we can make space for on the masculine to heal and balance and I want to say like rice but like because it has risen it in excess right but balance in such a way that it kind of comes down to meet the feminine so that this beautiful kind of dance can emerge in more Harmony and that would just make such a huge total impact and he just within the body the container of one individual body being able to fuse and merge those energies is so powerful yeah I’m really glad you what I do awesome guy and I can say from experience from the first couple of experiences and session work that I experienced with you then I really got I was able to feel the force you know that if we’re going to be using that Jedi archetype you know and in there if you want to call Kundalini Shakti goddess energy which is I love calling I love I love hearing of Kundalini as a salmon in force and you were the one who activated that for me and it was just very Seadrill yeah I remember like it was yesterday and so I appreciate it getting you you can get really philosophical and really theoretical but grounding everything into practices to make it as a workbook almost it sounds like this is amazing so you and it’s something that has to be felt in the body to really know what it is yeah it’s hard it’s hard to find words nothing will thank you for all that great work do you feel kind of complete as in that in this kind of brief introduction but but pretty I think it’s a pretty good overview I definitely thrilled to to go deeper with it and others will be as well so I wanted to give the bulk of this episode to this important news of promoting and getting the word out about the book and then but also address questions that I’ve had as a sort of I’ve become a sort of meta Godparent to a lot of different mothers who were rebranding as independent mothers who are in various stages of Court battles with baby daddies for custody and for child support and and I’ve just checking on this sort of I decided I’m not going to reproduce biologically all of my vasectomy but I will reproduce culturally by my being short playing that that more of a Shimano roll in peace and also keeping a little bit of distance from that that this is a an ancient sword of time tree thing of if you are not to be the guru per se but to be an Adept you may have to disengage from householding because there’s just so much mundane kind of learning and things you got to sit through so your country path is always going to be kind of a balancing act between how much of a household are you going to be and what roles are going to have within a community and then how far out you get to go on your own into your mystical practices so I have taken that past of offsetting my my familial obligations a bit so that I could study things from afar and then just go to be this force of will hopefully an Angelic sort of force supporting women who are in different degrees of Crisis that’s just a little bit of a of a context for why it’s important for me now to reconnect with you in a n n learn from you and share your teachings about Tantra parenting the pattern that has been emerging in the question is being asked of me and the view is is how does a woman who has just recently given birth and going through all these different chemical changes and hormonal changes how do you what’s the advice on keeping that spark of love and attraction alive with the baby daddy partner what are some some tricks and tips that you would recommend for for that really critical bonding you know six segments of Life first of all I’m not going to lie. I think the first thing to do is I mean really too kind of except that it’s not going to be the same but. It’s actually you know like I said with you know what having kids how you’re able to look at the things that really matter to you that was so when you actually are with your partner and you have those moments you know they might be less but we are going to be amazing because you are fully present and you’re showing up each moment you know and the end of a lot of for me it’s like when I first became a mom so I had my first son and it was really hard I was just like what cuz I was Dino stole so focused on your child and really wanted to be there to nurture that I and you are you know you’re you’re so deep into it into motherhood and it’s so new everything is so new and exciting and exhausting but I am in a few months I was just like oh my gosh like how how does this work how do we make this work and it was really really difficult very difficult but I found that by you know because I’ve had my kids almost 8 years now until I found that really what we eat sometimes you know if if we need to say like make an appointment with each other and that’s what we have to do if we have to put it on the calendar they okay these are the the two or the three days a week that were scheduling for ourselves for intimacy for connection then that’s we’re going to do that first there was a struggle because my husband’s like okay this isn’t sexy yo after he got over that initial thing it was like okay like we can do this we can make time for this we can we can be intentional about it for us really had to do that because not only was it you know hard navigating with kids now but also the work you know work in the balance of that it was just really tough so that was one of the things that we did the other thing that I want to say is that sometimes you know you you have good intentions but I got at the end of the day you’re exhausted and and then you just end up wanting to just sit there and whatever you want to do watch TV or you know just go to bed until I always like to say that really if you really want to keep that sparked going not to give up just because you feel like okay you know I don’t have that energy right now or I don’t have the time to put into this right now to really see and used Contra in a way that it’s really meant to be experienced right because Todd’s are really isn’t just all about sex right and having that fat set spark Tundra is it much deeper than that and so sometimes you have to tell yourself like okay even though we don’t have time to make love right now maybe maybe it’s just about lying down next to each other synchronizing out of breath making that I contact I’m falling asleep to that I’m letting that be enough you know before you know this night or this week or whatever it is like in the beginning it’s not to really put so much pressure on yourself but to use Simple practice is like you know that you have your own position and just sitting there together and being or maybe you know it’s one night you really need a massage right now you know I really just after having a long day or a long week and be with the kids so much that’s what I really need so communicating that to your partner and really staying in touch with that and not being embarrassed or not feeling like it’s too much or too much of a burden or whatever it is just really being clear about what you deeply need I’m in a lot of that comes down to really checking in you know with yourself all the time and seeing what’s there I really feel like things like that even though you know you might be cuz it’s also self-care right so you’re able to connect with your partner in that way and then you’re also able to have that time must be nurtured and a slowing down which is also key so I think everyone is going to work differently and it’s going to be unique for all of us but it’s really about finding those opportunities to stay consistent to really stay connected in those small tangible ways and mlc really accepting that it’s okay that you know your relationship has changed the amount of time might be able to have to devote to one another Soul has changed I’m not true but you can actually take all that and evolve it into something in a lot of cases that really goes much deeper than that you know because now it’s it’s amazing you know you have this this connection and you know going through motherhood and Emma strikes that that gives you time to actually be able to take that foundation and that strength and that those nurturing abilities and that expression being able to use that with your partner in your relationship I’m having that Foundation really can make me very powerful in a way that’s unexpected just as amazing as you always bring it back to the fundamentals of the practices this is not all hot air to talk about it tell about doing it doing the work and I just feel like it makes me think that I can think of I mean I know some couples will have the foresight to at least make prenuptial agreement but I can’t think of anyone who they actually said we are going to go through the most insane trans transformation of everything we know we can if its first time parents who have no clue what to expect and they and what if they were to get these to be the eye of a storm throughout anyting that’s the Abbey unless Ty gazing the synchronized breathing you can’t touch that space with anything so but but pure Bliss and whatever does need to get work through if it’s done in that space it’s going to be conscious it’s going to be a constructive and it’s going to be a firming so I feel like it’s the what I’m hearing you say and what diarrhea firm is two people listening if you were expecting and you want to keep this container of love together and ever strengthening then start doing his practices now and know that you’re going to really rely on them it’s going to be life-and-death okay we’re just going there so I can breed all right like can’t we just do that let’s just do that next week or let’s just all of that I mean once you start doing it and engaging and you feel that present in your body and the Net Connection you have to just trust that all of that and all of that adds up and all of that makes a difference in your relationship every moment of that that time that you have on to be able to connect in that way as powerful well thank you again for bringing it back to to those core practices again you could have a lot of compliments sure there’s a million complicated bits of advice that people could give for this but this is so practical and and I just I dare people could really do it in and I don’t think you can fail you know I don’t think it’s possible to fail if you have good intentions and you do the scratches so yeah so we were getting also to your kind of making a perfect segue to the next question which is more more about the the asymmetry of responsibility and Duty specially for breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be carried to full-term and whatnot it’s it’s like there’s such a the mail investment just as how I always make this joke there probably less violence in the world is men had to breastfeed but women actually held the babies in their room still so imagine that you wouldn’t be off to go into war and using weapons and guns and swords that she had breastfeeding on demand for whatever after 5 years income that would be great that leaves man with such an unfair and balance of freedom and privilege to not be bound to the those tasks so a lot of women are rightfully lamenting this sensitive of the men who are supposed to be there showing up to with the with the mother is hoping for is that yeah he’s going to go to work and put food on the table and make it so I don’t have to work hopefully or I can work you know in a way that I can still be involved in my children’s lives you know for God’s sake you know who something something not just not just the short maternity leave remind me that the CEO of YouTube is a yogini who is Hardcore advocate for way longer maternity leave or something yeah I didn’t know that I’ll send you a link to a video where it where you get to see that she’s actually really badass them she’s a fierce that ass woman who’s awake I have no idea how did you navigate and how do you recommend for women who maybe don’t have is as blessed of a of a beloved Fixer-Upper type type men how do you get them on board with really going the extra mile of of checking in about about the needs a mother you know mother would have if she is being assertive about her knees in about the new suicide where she would like how can you be humbled to her and just be asking and showing up to being serviced that’s a question that’s a really great question and I have to say that I’m really fortunate with Eric because he I mean he has just him and he is just been a tremendous support from the beginning but then at the same time it’s like I also have to do my part with him right of being very clear about I need you no because then it that this always with him you know in the beginning of special rub up against this when he just wouldn’t know you know and I would be just waiting silently expecting something but he wouldn’t really know that that was what exactly I was looking for right because for women it’s like having that ability to breastfeed and nurture and carry this baby. Room I mean just how we have those abilities so readily at hand and we know what we need sometimes it’s hard to say yeah I need this actually it sometimes it’s hard because where we can be so strong you know and we can put off the 15 so strong and like we have everything together and I know that I do that a lot of time where I’m just like yep I’m good I don’t need help I look what I’m doing all by myself I’m doing all these amazing but that really inside I’m like oh my gosh like what am I I can’t do all this by myself and just allowing your partner that opportunity like okay like this is really what I need and this is the support that I need and this is how I feel going through that and not being afraid to say I am overwhelmed right now you know and and can you please and saying this from a place of love right not from a place that judgment and like what are you doing for me and you know resenting that you know you have more freedom than me and Bubba blah and I’m here breastfeeding or whatever it is not doing it from that place but from you know from your center from a place of love like I’m I’m really overwhelmed I need help with this right now you know can you get up be up with a baby now for two hours because I only had 3 hours of sleep last night instead of just silently you know doing in that moment when you feel I mean I I just I know a lot of of moms and a lot of friends who dust will just be like okay well he didn’t you know my partner my spouse he didn’t step up and so I had to do it and then my will but did you say something and they’re like no or maybe they did say something but you know it wasn’t from that place you know of just clear intentional loving vulnerable until. I think that was one of the biggest things for me especially you know when our relationship I’m like okay and then you know my husband tries to tell me like he’s Eichler like he’s like really I want to be able to show up for you like I want to be strong for you I want you to feel good but he’s like I honestly don’t I just need to to hear it I just sometimes I need to be told or I need to be reminded because it doesn’t come as naturally to me and then show me be mindful of that and not you know not falling to being hurtful or resentful something makes me cute different do you know well that’s really really profound that that really gets to the hardest exactly what I’m seeing go wrong inside once at once that slippery slope really hard I mean it’s kids once this thing start to add up then breaking through that you’re really. It’s really snowballing and that’s your thing everything is this Noble thing I’ve seen it yet so that is great advice I think that work that I said the fly to something if x is kind of ridiculous that it reminds me of I remember seeing young young women and whatever middle school or high school and home home economics class and they will be given an assignment to have a baby doll with them for whatever and in that relationship it’s like okay honey we’re going to do what it’s going to feel like for me to be busy and need help from you and you put in your garden that would be funny if it decided to give people that sensitivity at sensitivity training cuz once it’s already ratchet up and then more expenses than what I’m seeing to notice let me know way more than I do but it’s like I don’t think I think people underestimate the cost of of multiple visits to the pediatrician a week you know it’s like figuring out food allergies and decoding the sugar all of the ways that sugar is is is surreptitiously inserted into packaged food and just it’s such a pill battle to be holistic and to be in at all so it’s just this this is all in on top of just I mean most people are just buying everything off the shelf from entertainment to toys to food to diapers and whatever it is it’s all just off the shelf but to have that effect of wanting to do better than the last Generations or to resist the marketing and be more green or whatever that’s a whole another layer of the building so you know it’s just to get more and more complicated and at the end of the day I see the women just getting ran ragged and the dudes just kind of blowing him off sadly to say but if we could he had say that actually kind of Segways a bit to another question which is and this I mean you could you could write a whole book just on this subject alone out so I don’t expect you to to go too far into it but maybe just some off the top of your head pointers and we can move along quick to know we’re getting close on time so so any suggestions for creative and educational and non-toxic toys just a few maybe went to one website or one store just don’t know anything I don’t know if I’d be the best person to ask about that because I not that they have a choice in general just because you know like all the plastic and everything I mean and we like literally their toys are like one corner of our house like a couple of containers and that’s it and they barely even play them to be honest with you I feel like the simpler the better you know I feel like I’m all about like art you know art projects you know the pain and the crayons and all the art supplies and things like that so that they can enhance their minds and use their hands that way and explore that way they’re into that but I found that you know the purchases that I made with toys throughout the years it’s like that use it and then they’re done and that’s like a big hunk of plastic sitting there are biodegradable and Wooden Spoons and then they’d be busy for 2 or 3 hours you know that they have gotten that I get them they’re like okay and then they open it and then they look at it for 10 minutes and then I end up you know it’s just a way so yes so we do more we like to do more stuff you know in nature I mean they like to play you know what they say they love gospel they love being outdoors they love Ari and they love puzzles and things like that so that’s why I hope that I hope and pray that we will all have abundant opportunities to being healthy natural environments and have plenty of more outdoor time the better cuz there’s some nature is like endless you know just being outside they’re like so fascinated by every little thing the backyard I don’t know it exactly how I like how did the people survived all of those many years ago without these big pieces of plastic and well that is exactly what I thought I hope to hear in and a very firm it if so this is another test of the last one here is probably the the most kind of universal so I don’t know if there is an answer to this question however I died would like to spend I would like to spend my golden years doing a lot more anthropological research on on foraging sigala Terry and societies before you spell hunter-gatherer societies who have basically none of the the neurotic issues that people in the modern world have and and I love to know I would like to believe that there is that there was a golden age of human Innocents where the terrible twos didn’t exist and then that we could decode that and figure out what is it more nurturing Less Talk toxins I mean is it just that there’s so much overstimulation and so many maybe you’re actually able to perceive carcinogens at that age and then you stopped being able to and that’s why I mean it could be anything less or I could just sent them know something very out of balance that’s just modern so I’m just wondering if you have if you were really idealistic about know I’m going to teach there going to be a master Yogi’s by the age of one so that the terrible twos happen though I already beat exam enough I don’t know why you if you were like I don’t know like tell me what that’s been like for you and then if you have advice for people who are in that approaching that Horizon will for me I really I really just try to go with the flow you know just so I’ll talk to style just like accepting every part of it I was just part of the the beautiful messy process of development and growth and exploration and sometimes I do know because otherwise then it’s just become so hard you know what I’m saying because you expect it is you’re going to have meltdowns right it’s not it’s not going to be easy is there at like going to be some very tough days especially in the beginning if it’s going to be hard you feel like what what am I what did I get myself into one of my hairdo evaporate the next moment you know you’re going to feel the most joy and Bliss and happiness that you ever felt like wow that’s amazing that I get to be a part of this process you know that I get to witness this human being growing and developing and it’s it’s just amazing so it’s really you know you know the whole ton truck idea of a flowing through those energy that accepting every moment no matter how chaotic and allowing those emotions and those feelings and those moments to move to you during this challenging time to witness in you know children and young children because it’s like they can like be so happy in one moment and literally within five seconds that can beat me on the floor it’s crazy right it’s like oh my gosh the wide array of emotions from moment to moment and not inhibit that till I I feel like you know it’s like wow for me initially seen that in the beginning and fidget with night was my first one and that you can just move so fluidly like this and just just like that and get so consumed by something else in another moment we just amazing to me so I think we can really take a lot of sign a lot of lessons and just being present at something to a Full Circle closed right now because what I am even before you started to reply that lesson for grown-ups really about about cycling through your full expression and not choking your body is response to a situation out and the full the full body response to a situation I was actually remember me on my phone while I remember a room full of adults it you and Eric’s condo and we were being instructed to behave like children having a tantrum so that we can feel good and actually know the nice that storm there’s like the sun and the blue sky and in the EXO baekhyun the funny faces and doing the monster dance and some just like well you’re probably realizing hits are the times of the exactly yeah it’s it’s pretty amazing to witness is there a word for like reverse parenting or something has got to be a word for the the the from children actually teaching adults what they’re forgetting and I didn’t mean well that’s really it’s a really heartwarming conversation and I feel like the people who are hearing this and who have experienced so much pain and distress that there is such a open source free to use to spend your own time studying it get this book read the book watch Roadies videos I certainly considered to be the highest resource that I like to share with folks because of the same reason they listen before adjusters I don’t feel like there is a knot a snake-oil aspect of what you’re selling and there’s not a sort of a shady ulterior motive saying a gender that I have to worry about and and I just can’t say that about that many people until I’m sure you know and I certainly feel for myself that you know I have I always want to be deferring is often as possible to sort of protect my Integrity to not be the what do they call it like the god cock Shaman is just a narcissistic people’s souls and that’s easy enough to it’s easier to take that route of that that black timeshare manipulate manipulate almost hard not to do it so I mean I’m making and I feel like we are making major effort cuz that’s the complete opposite of what you are and what you and body I mean from the very beginning so yeah no thank you I really feel like you are just I mean somebody who’s just really in there doing that you’re like doing the work you know and you like do it like with an open heart you’re just like in there and you’re talking to everybody and just creating this just really amazing platform. You should be really proud of well thank you again and again I have to say you helped start at all and one of my the first real social proof that I had was that was your gracious licensing of me to share some of the video work that we did together it’s been a blessing that go into detail but all that in that in that previous episode supposed to listen of that and I will say that we we were blessed and burden in this in this time of this episode to take to cover a good intro to the book and also to open this discussion about time to Parenting I definitely want to set the intention that in the future we will give more of a of a deep dive into your personal background and it sort of will let that be a cliffhanger to hear about your experiences early introduction of Tantra and just kind of the got your path of building that confidence and certainly the form give experience Syfy oh my God it all yeah we haven’t got into your filmography either still be there next time to say this for next time to talk about birth because yes I mean not as deep and my experience naturally delivering and doing it with Tantra as my Foundation is the only way that I said I survived it and actually enjoyed it. Arrington have the complete box set free thank you so much thank you so much for having me it was really great and most richest time in in a moment to to share this Basin and certainly yeah it’s it’s a got it just give you a big big bow down because this you were the one who helped me start this this whole journey I don’t know I don’t know who I’d be or where I’d be doing it if we didn’t have a Meeting of Minds you know so yeah I can’t believe I forgot to say this I mean you were seriously you were the first one who discovered my website you were the first one who reached out to me and one of the first that I’ve actually I will say the first that I taught that I didn’t know because I had started already like teaching but like you know friends and friends of friends but you were the first clean one like the first student I was like oh wow yeah that that walked in and like was the beginning of really that Journey so thank you I did not know that I did not realize that that that’s funny so funny I can’t believe I never told you that that’s very well so everybody just like get over your awkwardness and just represent just like bring your egg and no matter what things will come out you know it’ll all fall in place to get back to the Sam and yeah I give them my love and thank them for allowing you to to do the book and for all of the people who parted the sea so that you could get that book done and then provide provide that to us and so much more thank you I know it I just want to say thank you so much for Amy what you just what you spoke about earlier just blew me away how you been stepping up to support women and you know what your mother’s I mean you are really holding for me to space there and this is really something that you know I know that would indeed and you know a lot of them have been longing for so thank you so much for for being that person and for filling that role cuz it’s just amazing the work that you’ve been doing all these years I thank you you planning to see each other that they were they say that it’s the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree at least in the sense of the guru to train me to be a womanizing pick up artist in the name of conscience so I guess that’s why we you know gravitated toward each other There Was You know. The little like energy so I think I don’t think you would have found that path that was not your will thank you so much again yeah so much so much good vibes and good times and we will be in touch soon and and best of luck with all of your your your book emotional adventurous okay great thank you so much fun. Country Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple provide ketologic employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Township Park. Com Thomas gay

 

Gender, Sacred Sexuality and Spirit Work with Lee Harrington TPP215

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In this episode I’m very pleased and honored to be joined by the highly accomplished Lee Harrington, he is one of those very precious “where have you been all my life” kind of sapiosexual soul mates that you feel like you could talk with forever and ever.

I knew this was going to be a deep, profound, enlightening, and transformative journey. His  perspectives on sexual healing, liberation, and empowerment are vast, multi-dimensional, and infinitely thought provoking. I’m looking forward to many ongoing explorations, it felt like we barely massaged the surface.

He shares his personal background of transitioning from being born assigned female to becoming a man,  developing personal practices and group opportunities to experience sacred kink, working as an adult performer, becoming an international sacred sexuality educator and advocate, and so much more.

Our dialog felt like a free-style jam where we riffed off each other’s musings, laments, and future-positive affirmations and visioneerings. It felt like a bit of collaborative improvisational spell craft; all intended to expand love, acceptance, compassion, and co-operation.

We dance with language and he provides insight into ways to evolve the terminologies we use to define “us and them” and when appropriate, transcend to more of a continuum than a dichotomy. I’m hopeful with the application of Lee’s wisdom teachings, we’ll move towards an unprecedented global village where a new “us with them” paradigm will replace the “us and them” and “us vs them” binaries.

About Lee:

Lee Harrington is an internationally known spiritual and erotic authenticity educator, gender explorer, eclectic artist, and award-winning author and editor on sexual and sacred experience. He is a nice guy with a disarmingly down to earth approach to the fact that we are each beautifully complex ecosystems, and we deserve to examine the human experience from that lens. He has been an academic and female adult film performer, a world class sexual adventurer, an outspoken philosopher, is a kink/bondage expert, and has been blogging about sex and spirituality since 1998. His books include “Sacred Kink: The Eightfold Paths of BDSM and Beyond,” “Traversing Gender: Understanding Transgender Realities,”“Playing Well With Others: Your Guide to Discovering, Exploring and Negotiating the Kink, Leather and BDSM Communities”(with Mollena Williams), “Shibari You Can Use: Japanese Rope Bondage and Erotic Macramé,” and others.  You can find Lee’s podcast, tour schedule, free essays, videos, and more over at www.PassionAndSoul.com

Sex, Drugs & Mostly Yoga with Kara Leah Grant TPP211

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In this episode I’m joined by a brave and courageous tantrika who shares a love for psychedelic spirituality and has been on a path of evolution set in motion by powerful transcendent drug experiences.

She shares her intense story of spiritual growing pains, navigating love and relationships, tantric initiation, and ultimately owning her power to teach and transmit the practices of tantra.

We talk about the differences between Yoga and yoga, the role of asanas and tantric practices in the path of self-realization and liberation, neo-tantra vs. classical tantra,  the role of psychedelics in aging and maturing spiritual practice, the interplay between the chakra system, the nervous system, and the endocrine system, the intersections of biomedical science and tantric art and science, and much more!

About Kara-Leah:

Born and raised in New Zealand, Kara-Leah is an internationally-renowned retreat leader, teacher and author. She has impacted millions of people over the last decade through her articles, books, videos and teaching. Passionate about liberation in this lifetime, Kara-Leah practices and teaches an every day path of awakening – the path of the Awakened Heart Warrior. This path is grounded in Tantra and focuses on dissolving layers of the conditioned mind into deeper and deeper heart-felt presence. Kara-Leah’s work, through her teaching, writing and retreats, focuses on using the process of compassionate inquiry to reveal conditioned mind, and so help people to drop down into being-ness and presence. She is the author of two previous books, Forty Days of Yoga and The No-More-Excuses Guide to Yoga. She can often be found dancing in her living room for no reason at all.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello David Lovitz welcome to Township on podcast episode number 211 I am here with Carly Grant and she is a touch of teacher and author and we’ve been connecting by social media and my interest is piqued with the title of her book sex drugs and most of the yoga field notes from a Kundalini Awakening has a very similar structure and and serve residents with the title of my forthcoming book and looking at so far the outline of the book I haven’t had time to fully enjoy it but to be able to get a sense of what How Deep The the rabbit hole goes it’s really exciting and I can’t wait to hear more about it in this will just kind of be the the primer and the incentive to go deeper in the future with her works better love to have you tell us kind of all about your personal background and then we can get into the evolution of this this writing that you’re doing and what you have offering what you working on the future gifts from my ex and a background I’m in my early forties now and then finally experienced in my life and for the Whistler ski Town it was an impact time of dance holidays and club and working and Hospitality sucking out the Mountain hiking in the mountains around America convergence are included to the practices and tell me if it’s a nightclub that may just like all of my possessions if I didn’t have enough self a wenis or knowledge to work with what was coming up so those things also. and I was at 4 time music please to Ocean blonde with my partner engaged in my fiance I just took me to the edge we took on the Friday night not a whole lot you know what your headaches to see on Friday night and then I may be going to a yoga class on acid which is doing mines post three times and is it a super teacher kind of looking at me funny and that just began this is skating unfolding shift in my perception of reality that long story short went from Bliss Wellness instant downloads of everything to eventually starting to go into deep trunks where I was speaking a foreign language my fiance he we can do it like I lost touch with reality and waking up in the psych ward guy what the fuk just happened to me inside that it was like trying to psychosis and then life post psychosis where I’m coming from that is very interesting and exciting and I’ve certainly had wow definitely profound otherworldly experiences where I was completely disconnected with consensus reality and ended up in some very bizarre situations in can commiserate on that as well but it sounds like also somewhat glorious do you want to talk about what insights that were happening and how long was it last thing in and just yeah can you can you even almost in a way channel the that you were at that time to to give us some some fun insights about the other side yeah absolutely on the fishing on his side so that happened was right on the new moon that experience and it was a Sunday morning that it began on Friday and sedated the Friday night and saw it was about five day experience to those who are astrological things happening in the sky and then a month later to my fiance ended up breaking up with me right side face before and that triggered a stick and experience of psychosis so I had two experiences and what was you gave me an opportunity to see how the stick and experience is triggered by my own emotional defense mechanisms and the way that I couldn’t handle the grief and I ended up disassociating and because I’d already my psyche was already right John is already to reduce a multi-dimensional reality inside that stick in his time there was a list of the translate State Police of the crate is coming through the wasn’t the language Exeter so going back to the experience it was extraordinary how to put it into words we just kind of go back and feel it was it was as if I dropped into knowing you know it just old things worth knowing is one way to describe at like anything that I needed to know I was at my fingertips I could just reach out and it was like I knew every witch every song every book dissolve at one point in the journey but it was also via quite strongly and other points and because the experience was being held by the the challenging relationship I was in a lot of ciaran Tiara coming up going to couldn’t communicate with my fiance cuz I was so worried or afraid of what he might think of what I was going through and he was looking at me like I was crazy and I can feel that so the whole experience was are the light with all of this fear of speaking truth and this way that I was kind of responding to his description of me as such so the where lots of different visions that came around the nature of reality and it was it was so the child that the world is different from what we told school and what we told and Society was being confirmed and just a little Winston’s to like it’s never about what we want and it’s always about what we need that I need for always be Mitch witch simplistic or like me what does it mean it’s not really a big deal everything just seems so important and so profound and so when I was trying to communicate this with my pain. He was just my voice doesn’t make any sense in like one thing I remember quite clearly as he was wearing glasses he needed glasses and I was trying to tell him that in the future we wouldn’t need to wear glasses that we were shifting into the what I was saying in the future and what was actually happening now and so I keep trying to take his glasses off him and tell him he didn’t need them of course he saw he needed them so it was like I had an ability to steal through time but it was very hard to ground that into recognize what was actually real for right now since I was really confused child and suddenly having all of these talents will gifts or abilities, and have no understanding or no way to put them in context or to ground them or two to use them it was incredibly confusing and since you’re fine and you’re very Blissful at the same time in like a deep sense of relaxation is well it was all happening at once interesting very time shake that distinction contrast between the Bliss and the terror and it’s a magician that I follow sometimes online and and he’s talking about really deep really edgy taboo kind of exploration spiritually and he says he’s a one-time very often you know the aha moment turns to oh shit and like I can I can get that sense xhilaration but also that the terror and so wild so cheap do you feel like you had any Transmissions from beings or entities or deities or anything of that nature any kind of like encounter type moments now there wasn’t any specific mbodied other beings that came true it was more like just the same to the wholeness of the Wonders and just knowing that would come through around like I knew that I had to return to New Zealand and I knew that I knew that was related to my mother and I related to my life Jenny what was required. The whole time. To really encourage my memory as much as I could with what I had to see it and then when I begin to do is to attempt to pass out to determine would like to see been truthful Vision or was that psychosis was at the the same scar I mean I was so laid him down with him scar is still so they will what was coming through so it was a real challenge for me to go right what was real and what was just the delusions that I was still laboring under and can I tease out the gold while sleeping the wrist and so it was more so in any language is a particular form of breathing like a hissing where I was speaking even as I was inhaling and exhaling and I had a beer and I was I remember quite clearly watching that passion and the other language that was coming through very much later like last year when I went and saw hitchhike on a hooptie section when she went through things was that I was missing a past life that I’ve had in the Egyptian mystery traditions in so that life was getting confused with me being here and now and now but if we not still. Join us we buy different lifetimes will bleed into the apparent here and now in a way that’s not useful because we haven’t eaten most of the ability to walk in those different Realms 2 walkthrough time whilst leaving things with a minute today yeah that’s very interesting actually was in a meditation group but I went to the one I think maybe just one time I went to this one particular group where they had this skill said that they would apply which was basically this really intentional really highly focused laser focused rotational I gazing where the train meditator would do the sort of left eye to left eye eye gazing with everybody who came to the meditation Circle and there were also practicing or tradition of meditating with your eyes open but they the masters of this path or the adepts of this path they would cultivate I can’t remember the exact methodology that they were following but it was replicable and it was it was very reliable that they could do this in and they would basically be able to once you lock into the eye gazing with them within a few may be a couple minutes of intense eye gazing you start they start to melt away and you start to see them change colors and phase through various genders and and and personalities and and and bodies and faces from there multiple lives and they’re basically scanning and seeing you so it’s almost like you’re you sure it’s almost like you just wear like a deck of cards you know or a deck of it and you just have whatever is in the current consensus reality on the surface of it but if you have one of these meditators going to shuffle your your lifetime Persona ask you no cards and then it’s a real powerful experience so I’m very much in a position to to validate your experience has it in for people who are I don’t know I don’t know how busy I’ve been such a Believer for so long now I just can’t even imagine people who would say that multiple lifetimes or reincarnation is is to woo woo or you out there just makes total sense to me and I’ve had enough I haven’t had what I think some people mainly love Ayahuasca people I know they will the ones who who are the sort of facilitators of Ceremonies some of them I just say a number of them who I know they kind of report this pattern of them if they do the medicine path you know rigorously honestly for however long it takes basically they will start to get through their get through the Karma’s of the current lifetime start going back to previous lives sequentially and then also I think can currently doing work for on behalf of the people that they’ve had car make and take them it’s with over multiple lifetimes so it’s kind of like a you just start polishing one layer after next you know going to this is so anyway that’s very just saw my thoughts to it to validate that experience and I could see how you know that I mean I would like to ask you if it was LSD that cause disorder abrupt jarring Rift and so having comparing your other mainly psychedelic experiences and Explorations do you feel like how do you personally feel in your heart about LSD is that your friend is it your enemy is it your lover is your Trickster yeah I know it was my initial instincts is it was the only state that hit that had triggered at but it’s just so I can go by myself feeling like that differently united life with my partner and I wasn’t going I didn’t think again really into the spice when juicing translate state tax return connect Museum to wake light on after the second episode I didn’t say I would just stop drinking so I can place on anti-psychotic medication so she created Everything Gold fangs because I was really we are you doing anything that might trigger I was seeing a man and he hit some ice and he was going to type it and at that stage in relationship I was still quite greater than my share of triggering my psychosis again triggering psychosis again so I chose to take some don’t much like really small dice it enabled me to really witness and hold the intense emotions that would trigger it and that relationship was a very intense challenging relationship gave me the ability to witness and feel emotion and why I hadn’t even had prior and not react to it was I watching the rolling waves coming and fully feeling of adjusting out in it and so that’s when I started to realize I yeah I see that the usefulness of at least a. At this point in time when it’s not something that I just feel like I need to do any more percent but I have used it again and it has thing fascinating to see what unfolds in the nature of the psyche and your reality I’m sorry I just feel like it’s definitely my friends and I’m curious about it but it’s it’s not one of my allies necessarily oh thank you for sharing that yeah I kind of feel like when I was more of Gonzo psychonaut in early stages in my life and I will go pretty far out with that luckily unlike some of my friends who who had the the misadventure The Misfortune to over like literally not to point of causing any physical damage but overdosing on LSD can happen easier than people anticipate and it can have dire long-term consequences and I’m glad that you obviously reconciled and in and had the other skill sets going to worry didn’t just cause long-term issues but I know people certainly and I think we all probably know some people that they weren’t intending to but it’s easy to overdo it and so yeah I’m glad that are you able to to get to where you’re at but I would save myself to I just I learned a lot from it but but as a I guess I’m way more interested in the time-tested shamanic guided and I would say like I I I don’t feel I like to ask you if you feel like this comparing to the other medicines really I think it’s more of a it’s like the nuclear option you know of and it has a lot of risks associated with it I was saying beautiful things can happen but I just don’t feel like there is a a a spirit guide that’s assigned to that medicine from the greater sort of bureaucracy of Spirit guides and I’ve obviously mother Ayahuasca the sort of Grandfather peyote and grandfather which Yuma and then maybe you know giggly Elvish alien creatures for the mushrooms or whatever but still whatever it is there’s some sub something usually there according to my experience is another people were at work but it just feels like with acid there’s just not there’s not a a sheriff of that realm somehow there’s not right it’s just kind of like you’re on your own I don’t know if that’s it maybe you meet God or you get to see the guide her you’ll meet the deities that you studied if you’re very religious but but you could also get jumped by demons and not get your mind back for like this lifetime so my students it’s worth noting went to when I did at the at least I think I had a quarter for 10 it wasn’t even strong stop imported tonight interesting take at it feels like the whole structure of it and it doesn’t feel like there’s any particular guy with it where is cannabis and mushrooms and it was very much feels like I am communing with a being the plant you know I feel that being with me with the communication begins with the intent and withholding the material which is very different psychedelic Jenny it’s the container and the context and the intention and integration the goal of these things that we wreck around it a crucial and we are so many people that have just taken it with what do none of that so that way they do start to encounter these more terrifying aspects of the psyche of the archetypes of the underworld and what if they don’t have a framing or ways to work with it inside that’s when things can get really not like exploring Consciousness even a ground of a triangle that is safe for a psychic how to manage Instagram those are very good points and I actually it makes me think that we have a lot of a lot of policy and a lot of I think good wisdom that says that you should probably not be drinking alcohol or taking hard drugs or psychedelic set at early stages in life before your brain starts to fully mature and what not but this gives me a sort of food for thought that something I’ve never considered that there be like an age range were there be an upper limit bracket is well aware it’s like okay you have to wait till your message to start doing it but then at this age later you better stop doing it cuz it will be more trouble the FBI could do more harm than good I feel like if there’s one substance that for me it’s kind of like yeah have your fun with acid when you’re when you’re invincible and you’re in your you know late teens or early twenties and what not and taper it off over it’s over time because it can be you can be destructive I think more than the necessary and safe I think safer and and as we’re agreeing both have any more guided more support experiences that have been nurtured for thousands of years with you know even if we’re not in the Amazon or in the the traditional ceremony I still feel like the relationships that previous human beings have built have created a sort of like a landing pad pad for those those helper spirits on Earth and who knows with where we’re at with acid maybe maybe that will eventually happen but but it’ll be up to the youngins is there any way not to put it that down hopefully if anybody’s listening this and they are there really strong Advocates of a regular ongoing serious LSD used and then by all means come and represent that that side of things but with all that said I’m curious now can you tell us about how how did the Tantra proper come about into your journey yoga was going to be cheap out of my recovery let me know when the doctors to speak to a concert with some kind of spiritual experience and then I needed to really deep in my yoga practice I did that and ended up teaching started teaching in 2006 when I was asked to teach inside I didn’t get no matter what because I felt that Judy an obligation to my students and I started reading into studying the traditions of John cheever Ray that I really felt like all that’s woman I can learn from because the way that she taught there is something spontaneously in my practice around that time I went to LA in 2010 to do my teacher training was Sheba and she had Christopher Tompkins who was a tantric practitioner in Scola come on that training and Cheech the Tantra philosophy and practice portion of it and that was when I was introduced to Tantra and it just felt like coming home and Chris he gave us this particular practice which is just a daily a very simplified version of a daily practice that he found and he has been collecting from Kashmir primarily like literally hundreds and thousands of tired so he told us his practice and then he also initiated us and at the time I didn’t realize the importance of that I didn’t you know it was just to make it just a site this thing it wasn’t really a big deal so I came home and just keep doing that practice sporadically for about five years still not really going into 6th until I didn’t want people to think that’s what I was doing so I just quietly and I decided I wanted to do a thousand a practice practice to become a master serious as I want to master and ask legal commitment to show up every single day and then I dropped the ball for various reasons. I made it to 617 days and then drop the bull and I’m now on my 15000 days in a row and today is his it’s just revolutionize my experience of yoga my understanding of it of Tantra and it’s initiated such a date process of literally burning through some scars in, like I feel and about a year ago they internal guidance is like a Caillou really stinks this down time for you to step forward and teach it which not quite scary actually because it’s a whole different way to teach it’s a whole different thing that I’m teaching and then I’m transmitting and because I hadn’t had any contact with Chris and I don’t have it at 8 to hear and use a lymphocyte a big part of me was like can I do that if I can get my hands on and studying and living it I guess but I’m not sneaking with a lineage at this point in time but it’s time you need to skip forward again this side over the last year my experience has been enormously and I will and I have been reading every book I can get my hand on on edits it’s been an extraordinary experience to to Really grasp what it was where it came from how is lost as such and what it means to us and a modern lives now how can we practice the coordinates of the tundra Traditions arrives sorry it’s on you being the last stand up and say I know this stuff and I’m teaching the stuff that I’m bringing it through that’s what I’ve been doing to the last how to use well yeah this is very interesting I find it at it’s is I guess it shouldn’t be a surprise but it is it is a surprise I mean I guess the only way I can kind of reconciled is that the Wilderness is a beautiful documentary called yoga woman and it goes into just how much effort women had to exert resisting patriarchy in order to establish schools led by women to teach yoga around the world like it wasn’t it wasn’t it was a man’s a very patriarchal very hyper masculine secret control thing for a long time and then I don’t know why you wouldn’t expect that you would most people not like in the west they think o yoga that’s that that’s that thing that chicks do you know where something is like actually know I was a super you know control tightly-controlled Cult of male priests that were doing this so that they could you know experience forms of advanced practice that required bodies they were basically able to endure these extreme austerities and his extreme really religious Pursuits but it wasn’t necessarily that was very it’s in the very closed off and I I wasn’t too aware of that history somewhat somewhat sensitive to it knowing a bit about tantric history but just that film yoga woman puts a lot of perspective or you’re like while we take a lot for granted about how westernized things have got but I bring that make that point about that film because it’s it’s it what seems to have happened and I love to have your perspective on this but it seems like this false dichotomy between Tantra and yoga or tantric yoga or yoga or however however people want to mix it up it’s basically that the the more fully integrated Township practices for one within Tantra you have a lot of Shadow work a lot of left hand path a lot of black magic and so when I miss my understanding is a basically Christians and Muslims Came In Waves over the course of centuries and in the process of wanting to colonize and take over and exploit the people in the land of course they’re also having this moral Crusade against the darker forms of Tantra and then now in the modern world of India is the more sanitized versions of yoga are all that really remain above ground and then this country scriptures in the country practice is most of the darker practices have been have been at least band and there’s anti black magic legislation that I’ve read about and a lot of the that the Tantra Mantra practitioners are just selling black magic Services as a sort of snake oil saying in the Glorious more profound shaktism and goddess worship and what we would consider to be the more benevolent and benign path of Tantra that we I think in the west kind of whitewash the darker side of it but it’s it’s like it’s like it’s the whole thing was made Taboo in the whole thing kind of got tainted I suppose in in Worcester wrist and the Glorious aspects of it were sort of sanitized and so like I would just keep saying things like the modern yoga that we know on the in the west is basically the the kids version of Tantra because you’re not caught the whole set of teachings that go along with all the chakras in your not taught taught about the sexual aspect of Awakening Kundalini and the end of the ritual worship of the Goddess that like it’s funny because you say I mean I’m just looking at this in a macro sense of the telephone game at the store should a happens with coaches over time and what we end up with in the modern world in the west and it’s like the the yoga that that I have experienced in yoga studios in classes and with the yogis that are really a bad that I’ve met like again as you mentioned you could go almost decades in yoga and never even hear the word Tantra once and you could also and then even more disturbing to me when I did find honcho is that you could go years into Tantra and never hear the word goddess or Shakti so it’s like now I’m very curious and I know this was kind of a soapbox a little bit for me but I’m also just kind of it’s always interesting to me that moment where are Yogi discovers Tantra and then realizes wait a minute what what why was this why was this in the track at the at the at the movie store it’s like behind the curtain that you’re not allowed to go into and then you discover your like wow I’ve been I’ve been missing out or I’ve been I’ve been denied access somehow so I’m curious just if you could talk about with your mind you reconcile these two words and and in your studies what you feel like is the now that you’re teaching how it how do you tell people ask you what’s the difference between yoga and Tantra I mean the first thing I always wanted for defined as what do they mean by yoga do they actually mean Asuna what do they mean by liberacion this is Chris thing I always wanted to clarify mean someone uses the trip between yoga which is half ways to self-realization alliteration and the tools of yoga which included Asana pranayama chanting meditation but deliberation and if it’s basically a phone or text or identified with doing the perfect posture the very thing that’s me to deliver I do is actually taking you deeper and delusion and illusion Chandra is a methodology or an approach to yoga so if y’all get is self-realization Tantra is an approach to self realization and it’s the fast way it’s like the way that cuts through the bullshit need the thing that is most effective most powerful most recent and my I only do it now for physical reasons it’s like there’s no need for any any other capacity Liberation in so yeah can someone asking me about what’s the difference between a month is not a difference between tantrum you’re the one that it’s an approach to yoga and then I also want to clarify that means you’re actually interested or are you interested in joining us because but it’s not Liberation so don’t confuse I really appreciate that you mention how this is the the way to cut through the bullshit and also that it’s the antidote to living in the Kali Yuga because that’s something that I read in very scholarly works on classical Tantra and the you are very rarely hear people talk about that in Neo Tantra workshops that this is a very tactical and strategic set of really designer tools that that are specifically designed in the way that I liked reading about it was this point being made exactly to your point it is for this time that were in which is extra delusional and extra demonic and just as bad as it can possibly be and maybe it’s going to get worse before it gets better so you better have these very effective tools and basically it’s almost it’s it’s the way that I’ve read about it is that I mean to be a little bit rude even I would say that in the the happier go lucky or Golden Ages in the other wheels of the cycles of time they could be lazy and get away with it because they didn’t have as much Flack and they didn’t have as much resistance and they didn’t have to fight back as much so but from those time more more abundant Divinity on Earth and more benevolence in the cycles of time and then they had the time and they had the luxury to cultivate the tools get the tool kit that they were creating for us to use in this time to fight back in to defend ourselves spiritually so it’s kind of like if we can find this stuff on Discover it and work it and put it to use then we can get through this like karmic swamp that were in now and then if we can survive it as a species that we will have as according to the prophecies according to the this this way of thinking is cosmology then you know our progeny will really inherit a more beautiful time of your more beautiful more Golden Era and but it’s cement what we’re just in the the bottle next year we’re in the in this this Dark Age and so it’s just that he has an interesting concept that all this is a gift that we need to unpack you know it’s basically like a it’s like a time capsule or not Time Capsule but it’s basically like a it was as if they they buried these these these caches for us in the scriptures for us to discover and Unearthed and then apply them almost like we’re you know where Navy SEALS or special forces or something of that nature is kind of way I see it so I appreciate that you that you said that for us cuz I think a lot of people they don’t want to acknowledge they don’t that’s too it’s too much Shadow work for them or they don’t want to I don’t want to kill the five or killed be a buzzkill talking about that that part of it or are you using yogurt to liberate yourself right United Liberation is not about making life better it’s about Liberation to about truth about realization and what I’ve noticed is I need a cheap knowledge he’s for working directly with Consciousness so as one’s a wenis and ability to sense the subtle becomes more more refined prices began working with Consciousness for the someone who’s coming into practice who is living there and then in order to become aware of what is happening in Chinle for themselves I guess it’s just an assignment of being able to be a weird one securing on the inside me and I can start to do the most subtle practices near me because of the point that we apply the practice itself is not the thing the print just simply create the conditions needed for the process of dissolving and unwinding to begin to Heaven prices of dissolving unwinding samskaras in comas and that will happen when we learn how to get out of the way and hold the space which is the whole point of the practice the same as the process that creates the conditions for the process of Liberation to be put into action if you will and then we just have to keep showing up and surrendering rating go and letting it happen and there’s something else that is it in the contract that I just come across recently that like because these practices were secret they weren’t in the cheeks the written down but the chicks are only a loser and describe some of the practices they don’t describe the real secret the real case that was just like you said that they would come a time when it was necessary for these practices to no longer be a secret and actually to be spread far and wine and I feel like we need those who actually care about Liberation most secure about waking up they need to know what’s going on for the my need to know what tools to use I need to know I had a navigate there in the world have never got Consciousness and they need to understand what happens psychologically when people begin to dissolve the SAS guys and comments from previous in this lifetime of course as well and that knowledge I think is it just not out there very much at all okay now I think for anyone listening who hasn’t read it acquires many books or baby hasn’t been down this path so far I could imagine that you’re wondering that you would love to hear now I would love to hear can you go into detail about you know if it’s not too much of a secret now that we’re talking about kind of open sourcing this technology and in the modern world so it’s what is your what is this daily practice look like that you’re doing and then you could go to go from there and say describe I would love to hear in your words what is the outstanding difference in the the the tantric practices that that for Liberation that you are teaching that you have learned in your practicing now cuz it’s 8 for me it’s so interesting every time I try to explain what this is I have to start almost from scratch it’s just like such a naturally kind of elusive infinite con concept and so are every person who brings it brings their definition to me I feel like I’m that that blanks later that that empty cup you know so I don’t so I’m not projecting my headline ocean. It is very obvious just reeling to hear how other people articulate this bass you know a very personalized thanks so please but I’ll meet you before we doing this practice at that rate and so the practices is to warm up links with a blockages are for the brace retention and then it moves into a clearing and a diagnostic running a diagnostic in the clearing on the system using State exams at the chakras and placing them placing the Munsters The Sounds in that area is another way inside its checking in to see what’s clear once blocked what’s going on what’s Happening stage three is the disorder of the dates of the practice and this involves mujras and involves Chun Chang and involves visualization and involves invoking the chassis Shakti and Shiva and uniting them in the hospice and that’s the third stage what I’ve noticed is it’s it’s not super intense car has like three things. I’m out of the system out of the field when that is happening which is simply sitting back and watching what unfolds now that you’ve laid the foundation and done all the other stuff so watching the movement of Shakti Kundalini Prana watching at move around your body watching what the bridge does watching the thoughts of flight paths watching the feelings that come out and staying the witness or consciousness of that important really win the dissolving and the release saying in the unfolding that’s when Visions come through strong emotions in Cecil line healing deep trauma order that stuff will unfold and that last part of the practice so it’s so powerful that mean to keep Knology in the more you do it the more it will be in trigger the prices which is the road to innovation it’s beautiful and it brings me back to my first Tantra classes with Rhoda Jordan who is my initiatrix into Kundalini Shakti energy and rotating the spine and using the Moochers and mantras and movements that were dance movements and various expressions and also the guided visualization so I feel like you could come in off the street and have no esoteric leanings be a total skeptic be a total materialist rationalist agnostic atheist whatever and you could have this very palpable introductory-level I call it like a chakra tune-up a chakra tune-up you know like you were getting your Prana oil changed in your getting your. You know your chakra spark plugs kind of reline and what episode people have this and it is it can I think the the Austin is can be like a good warm-up or a good cool down but in the center or the heart of of a tantra yoga experience it is this massaging and moving of the Kundalini Shakti energy and using the sound to activate and facilitate like a a very unrestrained and very unrestricted flow of a tenor he’s so everything seems like it’s some working in concert in harmony to allow that energy to flow with his little obstruction is necessary it goes to the places where it’s needed most and isn’t just being wasted trying to blast through your stiff neck or something like that you know so I’m feeling just to get for people to get a visual of what were what were you talking about what this what all this is like if you had to if you had to explain it to explain this stuff to somebody who is it super scientific rationale extended believe in any of the magical or mystical or Cosmic elements how would you describe the you note to a doctor what what it is that you’re doing or if you had to do you were doing a corporate retreat in there like we need to know what this is going to entail on like a biomedical level could you translate it to those terms could I change my nothing that right b i g u is a lot to do with that option within the sound is vibrational I mean I really just want people to try it to do it but if I needed so I wouldn’t be able to but it also takes medical terms that I do feel like that’s possible now when it probably wasn’t possible 20 30 40 years ago with the way that science is advancing and quantum physics in particular in their understanding of Neuroscience in the wedding Neuroscience is beginning to understand the brain in different ways and met mystical experience and understand that how to change your mind by Michael Pollan and he’s got some great Bryant Brian science in there that looks like it’s just you know the way that people are frightened the world normally feel like science is stronger and stronger and stronger people just going to get on that label is which is going to really help with the spread of these practices when people start to realize how powerful they are as Technologies for working with Consciousness with working with the Brian working with the nervous system all of us. Will you articular that very well yeah thank you I don’t get it I think it is important cuz it said put some point I’m 100% in agreement with you and the way I would wear that to it is to say that it hits the the woo-woo and esoteric and far out practices of acupuncture and acupressure they’ve been completely accepted into the fold of Western medicine now it will at least to the extent that you can you can put that on your you know on your standard American list of therapeutic things that are basically covered with your help with your health insurance is not considered too far out as alternative medicine and so you know if we can take those Meridian is in those energy lines in if there is also the data backing it up because if there’s enough research done in besides that using the scientific method and they can say well even if even if the actual mechanics of it the quantum mechanics are still somewhat elusive at least we know that there are results in those results are measurable and so it can be validated and and recognized and acknowledged and so I think that the tantric healing particula. The trauma healing modalities will eventually get to that point that acupuncture acupressure is and there will be charts of the chakras in next to the anatomy charts in in the doctors every doctor’s office will just have the sound and I think the only thing that I would add to what you said about just trying to bridge that gap for people who may be total Skeptics is that I was fascinated when it was brought to my attention that the the major are crows and there’s obviously debates about exactly how many there are some people say there’s multiple third eye permutation chakras is obviously just as is many different maps of the chakras is there are lineage is a tantra almost but we’ve kind of mostly agreed upon their being seven major ones but basically it’s it’s it’s been noted in end hypothesize that there actually is situated literally on top of or within or basically at least in terms of the the Distribution on the body there pretty much right in alignment with the endocrine system glands and so the pineal gland that all of that basically going going up and down the spine of the endocrine system and that makes a lot of sense because if in the in the chakra system teaching country you’re talking about these essential personality and information processing organs that the truck was our will that’s exactly what these glands are doing or 10th processing intense amounts of information and also really defining and in programming our experience of reality on a chemical level so that’s that’s definitely very interesting to think about that enter play and so this was a really really awesome expiration and just kind of bringing it accident the fundamentals of Tantra but also helping to to put into context the need for a think you’ve given one of the best polemics so far that I have heard on this podcast about why to get deep into the deep the practices and and really the case for taking yoga to that taking the Austin is to the next level of the tantric practices and so appreciate that and I want to say yes so do you want to just spend sometime kind of giving us if you like to share a sort of closing meditation walk us through some of what you would have to offer an in it in a a training you know take your good however many of you several minutes or more you like to give a sort of either a signature meditation or something just completely spontaneous that would be great but and also either before or after give us your final words in your website links and where people can go to get the book and also anything else you want to say about the book anything else UTI you care to say I’ll let you just take over from here yes it’s Six Flags in my siaga it’s a meanwhile of my recovery from that experience Awakening / psychosis and and understanding of what a treaty was so that’s available on Amazon only online book stores you can get on my cell as well and I have a I have a retreat coming up in Mexico September 29th to October 4th at so I can Hotwire it activation plaid Entre for the modern world I will really be able to join this practice we’re going to take him to practice and really looking at how do we embody unconditional love right that’s the awakened heart Unconditional Love and Truth which is the warrior standing in truth and bringing that 4th and 2 + communities because my senses this world is that the more of us that are able to embody unconditional love in penis after the shift will be on the planet and nothing feels more important than that and grounding it and Tantra practice in an understanding of time should I visit a solid foundation the people to take that understanding and stick back into the communities of one of the limitations to do wish I could. Pointed a wenis one that just came through spontaneously once upon a time that I’ve been using for number B is now so whenever you want to have you sitting and standing with driving how if you’re listening to this podcast just bring your awareness to your breathing just starting to notice what it feels like to breathe really noticing the feel of the breath and your nostrils you might feel it down the back of your throat maybe you feel it under your collarbone so and your rib cage possibly all the way down into your pelvis even your tailbone just noticing nursing what it feels like to braid what does it feel like in your body when you breathe you keeping your wenis on your breath also become aware of your whole body whole body awareness in the crown of your head all the way down to the soles of your faith goodnight is saying what the brakes feels like in your body but all such feeling your whole body front of the body back of the body right side of the body left side of the body and just noticing you noticing any Sensations any pain need a duplex for Delaware to bring the way of your whole body Men start to become aware of the ground underneath the Earth maybe getting a sense of sending root down into the ground just feeling what it’s like to sit on the ground on the Earth getting a sense of the soils underneath you maybe having a sense of the Bedrock with a water table deep it down still aware of your breath we are of your whole body Rosa down three play aware of the earth ground feeling yourself reaching down into as deep as you can go and then retaining awareness of breath awareness of body weenus of ground expensive opening up towards the sky beginning to expand your wenis outwit and upwards all the way to all the way to the Earth’s atmosphere beyondmenu all the way to the Moon Beyond maybe all the way to the planets to Sun and even issue expand outward upward to the sky to the infinite Universe still aware of the ground still aware of your whole body and still aware of your breath holding all of them New Orleans Saints All Saint Grant body sky now you sound tourist center of it all even as you remain aware of it all sending out so much love to you all thank you so much being for this opportunity to stake into share thank you so much yes I was beautiful and always appreciate meeting new folks doing this great work and learning new ways of articulating this mysterious technology but this was one of the best one of the best times I’ve had learning and getting acquainted and appreciate it so much and hopefully we will be in touch and you always feel welcome to come back anytime you have things you like to share updates and yeah looking forward to turn off Liam’s sharing and in supporting each other’s efforts I’m going awesome again for you feel free anytime to reach out in the future and I wish you the best of luck in all of your endeavors and will talk to you hopefully soon thank you so much I took care that is a r a l e a h. 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Dancing with the Shadow vs. Light-Washing Dark Truths with Matthew Schultz TPP204

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In this episode I’m joined by Matthew Schultz, a distinguished multi-media artist, musician and ceremonialist with a vast array of experience in both modern dark ambient experimental music and traditional shamanic ritual and ceremony.  I discovered his work recently via the Psychedelic Salon podcast episode 607 and realized we have a lot in common. On parallel paths, we’ve both been evolving from unguided musical shadow practice, to seeking shamanic ceremony, and integrating higher consciousness and vibration based on our sonic discoveries and revelations.

We get to learn about his unique and adventurous music career, his diverse shamanic initiations and his personal struggles with reconciling music, medicine, magic, and the archetype of the sacred trickster.

We also commiserate on the rampant plague of “spiritual-bypass” and “light-washing” which keeps many in the new age scene from confronting dark truths within themselves, their spiritual communities, and beyond. We discuss the need to integrate a shamanic perspective an astral ecology and develop a modern scientific framework to understand astral parasites.

He provides a much needed catharsis for those who have been tip-toeing on the egg-shells of spiritual correctness. It was an exquisite joy to be able to compare notes and share many deep healing laughs about the state of the world.  A moderate dose of cynicism is counter balanced by a heroic dose of divine love and light that is truly contrasted by a clear gaze  into the dark abyss. Ultimately we share great positivity, hope, and enthusiasm for an ever more enlightened future as old paradigms melt away and the psychedelic movement moves towards more of a “localvore” approach to cultivating and harvesting medicine species.

About Matthew:

Matthew John Schultz is a multimedia artist, musician, inventor, sculptor and indigenous practitioner. He was a founding member of Pigface and the dark ambient band Lab Report that included such diverse musicians as Genesis Breyer P-Orridge, and Lydia Lunch. Schultz also invented the A.T.G. or Anti Tank Guitar and utilized this instrument with both bands. In total, Schultz has appeared on over 29 cds with 9 solo productions and 2 feature film soundtracks (Ivan’s XTC and Snuffmovie) for Hollywood director Bernard Rose.

In 2010, Schultz manifested the esoteric and ancient fraternal order of The Division which reconstructed ancient spells and rituals. Mantras is the first in a trilogy of discs that express all aspects of The Division. Matt’s latest release is Mandalas. This album contains binaural beats and tones to aid in meditation and dream states.

Matt has also spent time in Peru working at an Ayahuasca healing center as a facilitator. He has worked with Lakota elders for over a decade and was initiated by Mayan elders in 2010. He is a water pourer and peace pipe carrier. He continues to be involved in indigenous medicine ceremonies of many varieties and runs sweat lodges outside of Chicago, Illinois.

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http://www.mattschultz.com

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http://www.sweatlodge.love

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 204 I’m being joined by Matt Schultz and he is really a jack-of-all-trades and nygma and an Intrigue to me now discovering his work based on the 2nd of ixalan podcast and he was on a on an episode recently that I heard in a really it really piqued my interest because we have a lot of residents in common ground in the extreme and underground and experimental music scene he’s got work in the pig face send lab report and he’ll tell us all about his his music scoring and soundtracks and really being a doing his sort of wizard witchcraft Alchemy in that space and also evolving into a someone who is Shaman escorts Shaman assure someone work within that those ceremony around tonight in that I weren’t just want to make an extra note to say that I feel like they’re I know you know that being in the various different scenes and Circles of of Ceremonies that there’s there’s definitely a cohort that is kind of post music industry or sort of post kind of not maybe some rock stars but definitely lots of just different people who been in the underground in the extreme music genres who find their way to ceremony either through their own rehab and Recovery or true just now getting bored what’s happening on stage in the entire world is a lot of paths that lead to it but it’s beautiful always to see the transformation of one’s people get switched onto sacred frequencies and toning chakras and 432 and cymatics I mean that’s that was my Story 2 of of having aha moments about understanding music and in in sound healing and want to be part of more than the solution unless it the Prof of somatic we speak and say I can’t wait to hear all about you and your journey it sounds like we do have a lot in common and I and I hurt and I do I’ll put a link to that that episodes people can catch up on that too but but feel free to just tell us all about your your your Evolution musically and spiritually and we’ll go into some of the issues that are going to give us a funny show title and we’ll reveal that later that’s great thank you so much for having me on it really is an otter and just chatting with you beforehand it’s true it there’s this it’s nice finding a resonant frequencies amongst people you know and it would this would be great talking to you so thanks again thanks for having me on. Yeah it’s it’s interesting cuz it has been a long path man is been a long path and I would say most kind of go back to the beginning here I did a lot of experimental film work when I was really young and started doing it because I’ve been thinking about this a lot to bring us up together podcast I wasn’t interested in playing music as I was in creating tones and I didn’t even know this is a kid and I remember buying this guitar and I would tip is Kemah stats and I clip them on like the second string down and stay like the top thing was like no Daddy right and I would use my fingers in the end of the hemostat and then like kind of isolated so that I can add to take the string in a Perpetual drone you know and I was completely fascinated by this capability of just creating these drone Tonk Central Illinois in the country I had no idea you know this is a long time ago and said it was his idea that I wanted a creepy stones and I was completely unaware of why I want to do that right but I I put headphones on these just monolithic drone tones and now I’m looking back on it I really do think that was like this this had to be a thing where I was affecting like the root chakra is it could be that the second chakra I’m trying to do something depending on my bike tuning then you know and without even knowing what I was doing and I think of years later that led then to the construction of the antitank guitar and I built this large stringed instrument and it had 10 strings on a basically the six were the same spacing is guitar in the other four were is the same spacing is a bass guitar instrument was 8 ft long and had a bridge 5ft the bridge to bridge is 5 feet and you know I use 18 gauge like string wire you know to the crate tones with this tank and again I was more about creating two things one would be like the tone and then the other would be that I retrieve these atmospheres to again you know what that time I had my own kind of definition of what I was doing but now looking back on it it was really just steadfast Shadow practice you know I mean with the other two band members we were creating pretty horrific sound Fields Miss I would put it and that really struck me as I was capturing the the collective unconscious of American culture and it was listen to it back it would be just absolutely horrific you know so again and I don’t even mention his name of the podcast a lot of that shadow practice was a form of catharsis for me it was cathartic and I wanted to listen to kind of go like holy cow you too let’s move away from this again it was okay Oka right like the sacred clown you know what I’m talking about the Hellcat a sacred clown like a Lakota sacred clown it’s it you know I do things that you shouldn’t do or the opposite of what’s normal to tell you what is normal like don’t do this right so so anyway I kind of sick think some of that early a shadow practice was exactly that you know it was creating this just nightmare horse Cape that could express to The Listener we’re not to be you know in a in a strange way and mind you this way predates like any new age you know we’re talkin like 80s New Age movement was extremely small back then are virtually unheard up you know the whole thing about total therapy and chakra tones and stuff like this was just completely unheard of so again I think it was a lot very intuitive practice which we can talk about later to like getting into chaos magic in this kind of following your intuition so I did that and then Martin Atkins from pigface he was in a different band at the time uniform pick base and he came to me was sitting form in this project you want to be involved and of course I did they were industrial Roxbury Chicago you know we’re talking 90 now it’s very Chicago Industrial Rock Ministry was just really keep getting into before men and by 91 or two we put out the first bass records that went on tour with that and again I really wasn’t too interested in in I mean I like industrial music and stuff but I was really there to do kind of this sustained tonal in a 18 minute intro for the show and I always considered it like a magic spell that we’re putting on the audience so they are like I have Sheltie do that spell will have them build it up and then they would come out and do their spells right and so I did that for a while and then after that I started working with Bernard Rose who did the movie Candyman and he was doing some Independent films now we’re in the late 90s by this point again I’ve been putting out solo records this whole time and I started doing horror movie soundtracks for him I mean directly did snuff movie and some tracks on iTunes ecstasy it said it was fun and I think that was probably more the conclusion of that kind of style of music you know that formative years let’s say and give it a little break its mid-2000s now I’m starting to hear about sacred medicines and Ayahuasca and frequencies all the stuff starting to come to fruition or at least to me and let’s see by 2007 I started working with Lakota Elder in Southern Illinois and doing sweat lodges and learning to be a fire tender or being a fire tender and learning to pour lodges and I did that for years and then I hooked up with some Mayan elders and spent a couple years on and off in Guatemala and Mexico with the Mayan Elders learning from them doing Thomas Carl’s there and and then one day they’re like Hayward initiating you and it was the Frog medicine and that had to be panically the most intense experience I’ve ever had like I helped you might really made Ayahuasca look like marijuana to in my definition that was very potent and it wasn’t necessary the Frog medicine as much as it was the datura they use a lot of datura and I and again posthumously so to speak I found out through research on the back end really what was going on to some degree with their medicine practices and I started practicing with some Shaman so Iowa skero’s here in the states that were from Brazil travel the world with them walk the Camino ended up in Peru working at Ayahuasca Center outside of Iquitos and now I’m back and I pour sweat lodges and I’m writing a book that’s a cautionary tale about sacred medicine in indigenous practices so there you go that’s that’s the nutshell awesome so yeah I I love hearing about all this and just to give the listeners a visual I looked it up on Wikipedia The anti-tank guitar I believe I can imagine you named that because it looks like a missile launcher A and B that seriously the the low bass tones I would use the woven garage door cable like in your garage that makes the garage doors go up and down right so woven cable and I have these humbucker pickups you know I mean we would use that like we would tour and and we would have you bring I forgot what a writer at it was like what they faced it was something like whenever 618 dual subwoofers and we would marry that up to the house system and I just push everything of the house system up to theirs you know what I mean in the end if people didn’t you know like we get there to a show at the venue and a promoter do you like you know who this is common to we can give you what you wanted what you going to do not play you know it’s a lot of times I can hold you captive and I remember a sound guy would go like mad can you go up there and Sanchez sound check that atg just a straight electric guitar right but these subspecies low bass strings for subsonic I mean I can and so what I do is I would use this knurled rod and I would agitate the screen again all the way back to my childhood right I would add to take the string and it would sound like somebody had a Nebo you know that the vibrating magnetic vibrating device for guitar strings one of their tops and so they would throttle the PA and then every time they be like that you know that Michael could you hit the low in and I would slap that bottom string and it would just shut the Pas off everything else this is total true story First shows we did with it I believe Houston or Dallas where were the Butthole Surfers were from and we were opening up is when the only time we opened up her cuz we’re headlining act but we opened up for the Butthole Surfers and it was a sold-out show it’s been you five thousand people there and you know that they come to you to go to your introspect I feel like I mean this is one of the first live shows in front of thousands of people I’ve ever perform on stage and I might start my interest very high and I could have taken almost minutes before I get to these lohit beats right well it’s so loud that I can hear it on stage which you know it’s musician a lot of things you can only hear your amp early on stage kiss the Pas in front of you right it’s very hard for you to be absorbed in the Pas on cuz if you worry about getting back anyway right I remember that it was so loud that all the pedals of everybody’s effects on the floor of the stage we’re literally bouncing across the stage and I absolutely I just knew I was like man this is going to end up happy in Guelph and I hit that low strength and it shut down the entire PA I mean like and I are sound asleep hoping he was like that every single switch is just to shut it the whole thing off right they had to repower it up and the audience of course. She know cuz I’m building up this energy right and I’m starting a load going for these guys just Rising drone and it came back on it had to be like 1/3 the volume and yeah they say stuff some of the stuff I’m working on now is the idea of being completely engulfed in that sound you know yeah man things I want to talk about regarding your the music all the tech some of the technical musical stuff and then get into the the medicine work where I think is it it really there’s going to be a lot of fun fun stuff in there but I’m curious so you this is something that for me I didn’t discover this but it came basically like a modern tantric yoga Guru figure came into my life the way that Tyler Durden came into the life you know in that movie and it was very a very ballbusting authoritarian smash your Paradigm you know rubbing your face in your own shit kind of initiation with that type of personality but he was a classic like a very well-respected music industry equipment manufacturer like he was basically making old-school analog equipment because he believed so strongly that the digitization of all the music was really not only just bastardizing at a dumbing it down but actually like destroying the the safety the sacred healing properties and he discovered that by studying cymatics so when he showed me the same out of scope videos was years ago now that was became what what I wanted to start tuning everything to my voice my instruments you know and then straight going down at 4:30 to kind of conspiracy rabbit rabbit hole and I got to know yet what your story of 432 and cymatics how that has has played out for you if those things as if you had some some aha moment along the way where you you know I have that kind of initiation of Sonic vibration initiation if you owe rudimentary aspect of it you know they teach you in these these cuz I like cello bows and the ebo to generate Perpetual drone it’s right and but again this is before I knew all this stuff so to me in retrospect you know it’s too bad I didn’t know what I know now because those intros could be like they would be much more of a man a true magic spell in the sense of you know if I have all the notation you know if they are like it’s it’s the standard C D E F sharp GA chakra from root chakra all the way to the crown chakra right so you could cycle the people through which is what I do in my sweat lodges with singing bowls so unlike the Lakota my my Lodge is Multicultural so I bring some lakotas the Mayan some other stuff and my singing bowls and I’ll spin through those chakras in the sweat lodge and so to me that’s kind of like part of that that journey travel right for the for the participant are you going to just cleaning house in the way while also being in the lodge know when the cymatics came around and again I can’t even tell how long ago that was when I when I ran across that do you know of a Buchanan I just oh my god I think I’m going to have to double-check the name Buchanan yes sound healer that actually invented like a machine that can selectively locate you whatever your cancer and then he’ll find the appropriate frequency to destroy that cancers out of Reno Nevada right and so I’m sorry to Robert Buchanan yeah I had gone out to Reno with some friends to visit him cuz they knew him and he took us to his laboratory and I mean he literally wrote the book on cymatics and somatic sound healing right and he’s got a spa so they’re in Reno and he’s also a conductor of the orchestra that means a really fascinating man and he kind of these little things of water and then he was coming up with all the somatic shapes and stuff in this is the first time I’ve seen this and it was after very recently after my Mayan experience so you know I was so blown open from that experience that I when I came back from Guatemala I was making all these mandalas and what I was doing was kind of incorporating the actual visual cymatic quality of the sound wave depending on the notation into the mandala so that if you listen to the song This is the eventual goal this if you go to my mandalas project if you go to match.com you can go to the mandala then and that’s called like or you can go to the actual website the mandala event.com and what it is is it has the stomach that was that I made and songs that they wrote using binaural beats which is also another thing we can talk about but it also uses of cymatics so like for instance I have the chakras as a visual cymatic poster a graphic that I created right and then you can listen to that notation at the same time and to me that’s a meditative practice that drives it all the way home because you’re forcing the visual as well as those are all right well that’s what they want for their supposed to be what you want isn’t mantras together right yes cool man well that’s amazing so and then it’s for the people who are not aware of cymatics in the same a task open this whole science do you can you put it in into your words I don’t think I’ve ever mention that I may have mentioned before on the show but but it’d be great to have you kind of give it an intro overview on what that is how I know I’m not an expert on any of this the idea is that Whatever frequency that you’re broadcasting right it’s going to create a like I say if you put water down or sand on a metal plate that’s one device that they’ve created it’ll create a visual representation right of the sound wave and so to me it worked more with like the hidden messages of water that in Moto but you know this idea that like your language creates a frequency that the water is reciprocal can receive okay so this gets into magic than this whole idea of like Abracadabra write these ideas of magic so you’re creating frequencies that the liquid will literally take on a physical representation of that frequency right so that gets you back to what you were talking about what she was like before 3 to tuning is the correct tuning for health and Universal well-being as opposed to what I and I get I don’t even know what the other what tuning do we use nelacar western or 4:40 is the Nazi conspiracy tuning that we have to go research that’s exactly right why are we here now because of 440 tuning right there’s some great documentaries are some really funny kind of spooky ones to online on YouTube but it’s it’s pretty amazing what some of these Millennials are doing with with YouTube and and fair use kind of phone hacking Montage V yeah it’s amazing some of the stuff on 432 I’ll just blow your mind in that pattern is just a visual representation in a lot of times if you do look at these different mandalas they are a visual representation of that so I can’t it I don’t know I’m not a you know I’m not a professional in this I don’t know the history of this and that you can follow it like you were actually brought that up earlier you can follow this culturally back you know to through many different cultures right yeah that’s what I’ve been told is that it’s it’s basically natural organic instruments kind of default to these to be some intervals or this December standard and he will say it’s the residents of the Earth and space safely you’re tuning yourself to the to the Earth frequency in that when when when the baddies figured out that they could create disease and agitation and disruption on the cellular level than they basically they had an elaborate conspiracy that’s pretty historically you know that you can I don’t I don’t have all the facts memorized and there aren’t there is some debate obviously about some of the more conspiratorial aspects but it’s very interesting the actual the actual what is factually known about this process that was used that was kind of a ruse like a rigged election to vote on which should be the standard tuning and the characters behind some of that rigging or people that we would think there’s distasteful character is in the history of politics it thanks but it’s interesting that yes no I mean that completely makes sense to me that completely makes the most simple emotional level like I mean I think even Beyond you know the technicality of the 4:40 or the universe has the 432 Hertz tuning horror movie you know it it’s it’s causing that this evidence that it’s not the visuals that are so horrific as much as it is the sound design you know and it don’t spoil you learn that in in your sound production companies you know our class has him so I’d say if it’s the idea that you know there is this sharp stop right and it goes to something else so which way you can almost like I could give you the laghetti or penderecki score from The Shining you know it ain’t that goes like you know it’s that pluck that’s the condo that creates this like shift in your body it startles you you know I don’t see how I mean I think that does kind of support the 440 not to see if there is a bad tuning right yeah so yeah I totally see that you know that we interesting attitude knowing that you have this the background in creating the the horror movie soundtracks can we zoom in a little bit on that and sort of what that’s a sort of bitters at that’s a ceremony of you’re creating and you’re making that music and you’re feeling into the Vibes of you know the director or the storyline and what not what would you say and I think that is it’s important that we were that’s all lessons hopefully we watch these movies and we become better people after we watch them cuz we see oh my God I’m about like two more relationships away from acting like that guy who’s the new that I almost feel like if you don’t if you don’t express your Shadow and dance with your Shadow then then obviously we’ll run you unconsciously and so I think there is a important place for for owning and in respecting these film genres even in in not trying to demonize them as it were until you have played a role in in channeling and hopefully in the air with a sense of ultimately doing good or better and are helping helping Souls evolved dino by exposing the steps I’m just curious if you could talk about like what how that felt or how that feels see you when you still into those rounds in that energy and then you allow it to possess you to create tones and and scores and stuff like that so interesting well then you could you bring up bring up a great point because I’d have to say and I’m going to dress this first while it’s fresh in my memory I dissolve lab report because there was a social because I realize you had to be responsible and I think we were being irresponsible I really do that project was completely dissolved because I thought it was being taken in the wrong direction it was being worshiped and adored when it should have been repulsive and and horrifying the people and we would you know this is back in the day before the internet right and so we had you know what y’all near album you put out that you got signed a record it was old school right we got signed to a record label I mean the first record we put out was actually final you know and and then the second record again I had Genesis Breyer p-orridge on Lydia lunch and so you know there is some big names coming in and we were creating quite a a horrific sound and we would get fan mail it stopped and I would always respond to this but quite frankly I found most of it just utterly disturbing you know and to me like the Helga II again Timbaland so empowering in really meet people where they’re at and as I’m thinking like this him in hearing you speak I feel like the if I had to explain to somebody who never heard the word Tantra before and you’ll people ask me to clients and we’re not where should I begin and what should I read and certainly there’s I really enjoy Urban Tantra by Barbara carrellas and also the jewel in the Lotus and also the complete idiot’s guide to tantric sex this one ever had I’m waiting for this I’m waiting I’ve been waiting for something like this every time yeah I just praise here at your style and approach and I really think the what it brings together is it just these two words kind of came to me these two terms just like that the self-help genre and the self-help movement is something that is sort of its kind of made fun of or it’s not it’s not really taking totally seriously or it’s kind of like oh yeah you’re there something wrong with you and if you were normal you would you would not need to go that route so it’s kind of like a weird thing where you might you might lose respect for yourself even by questioning that or thinking what am I to you having a midlife crisis I don’t need that you know what is going on but then with Tantra it’s so there’s such a almost like a martial arts kind of level of self-mastery and self-discipline I really is the sort of Jedi training and I think you bring that you sent the size those two for me those two opportunities where it’s like yeah you you’re actually using courage and bravery and becoming a warrior but then you’re doing all this really touchy feely deep emotional work and that should that should take care of people’s hesitation to go either on a warrior path or on a more self-help spiritual path that gives you your compelling people to take both and for when men I think they they seek that out maybe they seek the warrior path more than the spiritual path but there’s I think there’s a lot of marketing and hype around that for men but this is really good tip for a loved one country women’s use the word Fierce and they invoke that that energy and they Empower femininity with with that those archetypes so could you talk maybe a bit about what that means to you the that just reconciling masculine or feminine Shiva Shakti really kind of bringing these tools of of strength and resolve and discipline to two women who may be of this been crushed by patriarchy you know for Generations oh yeah that’s a big question right there yeah and that’s I mean being crushed by Peter I came that’s definitely why I wrote the book and I actually why you were talking I just wanted to mention that I have a section on their on you know telling women to how to stop denying that masculine energy or also men love because I find that you know because you know a lot of the women I work with the idiot had just bad experiences with men or with times that they’ve stepped into their masculine energy and so they’ve just been very hurt by it and then they sort of backed away from it and you know I try to work with them on you know it’s about housing balance of Both Worlds and really understanding what the masculine is and also the ways in which masculine and men have been disempowered you know and really starting to take ownership of that you notice a lot of times women are like you know when I start bringing in the masculine they’re like okay I know I bet that’s like to heavy like that kind of energy that they don’t want to work with that energy and they don’t want to explore that energy and so I say okay you know there’s there’s no pressure and there’s no rush cuz you got to do what feels right to you and a lot of time they seem. Just by like stepping in to do that feminine energy because it is fierce right it is courageous it is powerful like you said there is not Warrior quality to it I’m still by simply die do something like this to summon and energy you actually calling up you know those masculine aspect you’re calling up that strength that where your strength at the same time without really realizing it so unconsciously and and you’re bringing those forces them to bounce and I’ve seen that a lot of times with women that I’ve worked but I’m really like surprised at how the feminine wild like this actually you know it’s soft there is softness in the feminine but as you claim it and as you’re able to fearlessly stick with that and embrace set and embodying it naturally you know.. Here’s mess. Power starts to rise time to help stabilize their energy and so it’s pretty much really a magical thing it’s pretty amazing and so I have this part in my book about you know how to really heal yourself from what you thought maybe you know how house Gary masculine energy might be some time I’m sure there are practices that really going to that and yeah and then that’s really a big part of my work to because a man I mean we are in need of some major balance here on this planet and in this life in this world so I really feel the more that we can Embrace anybody and I’m leaning into the feminine that is rising right now in the more we can scan with that the more that we can make space for on the masculine to heal and balance and a bike ride but like Reno really hot like it in excess right but Valance in such a way that it kind of comes down to meet the famine in so that this beautiful kind of dance can emerge Amor Harmony and that would just make such a huge total impact and we just within the body the container of one individual body being able to fuse and merge those energies so powerful yeah I’m really is why I do what I do awesome yeah I can say from experience from the first couple of experiences and session work that I experienced with you then I really got I was able to feel the force so you know that if we’re going to be using that Jenna archetype you know in in there if you want to call Kundalini Shakti goddess energy which is I love calling I love I love hearing of Kundalini as a salmon in force and you were the one who activated that for me and it was just very unusual yeah I remember like it was yesterday and so I appreciate it in you you can get really philosophical and really theoretical but grounding everything into practices to make it as a workbook almost it sounds like this is amazing so you and it’s something that has to be felt in the body to really know what it is yeah it’s hard it’s hard to find words nothing will thank you for all that great work do you feel kind of complete as in that in this kind of brief introduction but but pretty I think it’s a pretty good overview I definitely thrilled to to go deeper with it and others will be as well so I wanted to give the bulk of this episode to this important news of promoting and getting the word out about the book and then but also address questions that I’ve had as a sort of I’ve become a sort of meta Godparent to a lot of different mothers who were rebranding as independent mothers who are in various stages of Court battles with baby daddies for custody and for child support and and I’ve just checking on this sort of I decided I’m not going to reproduce biologically all of my vasectomy but I will reproduce culturally by my being short playing that that more of a Shimano roll in peace and also keeping a little bit of distance from that that this is a an ancient sword of time tree thing of if you are not to be the guru per se but to be an Adept you may have to disengage from householding because there’s just so much mundane kind of learning and things you got to sit through so your country path is always going to be kind of a balancing act between how much of a household are you going to be and what roles are going to have within a community and then how far out you get to go on your own into your mystical practices so I have taken that past of offsetting my my familial obligations a bit so that I could study things from afar and then just go to be this force of will hopefully an Angelic sort of force supporting women who are in different degrees of Crisis that’s just a little bit of a of a context for why it’s important for me now to reconnect with you in a n n learn from you and share your teachings about Tantra parenting the pattern that has been emerging in the question is being asked of me and the view is is how does a woman who has just recently given birth and going through all these different chemical changes and hormonal changes how do you what’s the advice on keeping that spark of love and attraction alive with the baby daddy partner what are some some tricks and tips that you would recommend for for that really critical bonding you know six segments of Life first of all I’m not going to lie. I think the first thing to do is I mean really too kind of except that it’s not going to be the same but. It’s actually you know like I said with you know what having kids how you’re able to look at the things that really matter to you that was so when you actually are with your partner and you have those moments you know they might be less but we are going to be amazing because you are fully present and you’re showing up each moment you know and the end of a lot of for me it’s like when I first became a mom so I had my first son and it was really hard I was just like what cuz I was Dino stole so focused on your child and really wanted to be there to nurture that I and you are you know you’re you’re so deep into it into motherhood and it’s so new everything is so new and exciting and exhausting but I am in a few months I was just like oh my gosh like how how does this work how do we make this work and it was really really difficult very difficult but I found that by you know because I’ve had my kids almost 8 years now until I found that really what we eat sometimes you know if if we need to say like make an appointment with each other and that’s what we have to do if we have to put it on the calendar they okay these are the the two or the three days a week that were scheduling for ourselves for intimacy for connection then that’s we’re going to do that first there was a struggle because my husband’s like okay this isn’t sexy yo after he got over that initial thing it was like okay like we can do this we can make time for this we can we can be intentional about it for us really had to do that because not only was it you know hard navigating with kids now but also the work you know work in the balance of that it was just really tough so that was one of the things that we did the other thing that I want to say is that sometimes you know you you have good intentions but I got at the end of the day you’re exhausted and and then you just end up wanting to just sit there and whatever you want to do watch TV or you know just go to bed until I always like to say that really if you really want to keep that sparked going not to give up just because you feel like okay you know I don’t have that energy right now or I don’t have the time to put into this right now to really see and used Contra in a way that it’s really meant to be experienced right because Todd’s are really isn’t just all about sex right and having that fat set spark Tundra is it much deeper than that and so sometimes you have to tell yourself like okay even though we don’t have time to make love right now maybe maybe it’s just about lying down next to each other synchronizing out of breath making that I contact I’m falling asleep to that I’m letting that be enough you know before you know this night or this week or whatever it is like in the beginning it’s not to really put so much pressure on yourself but to use Simple practice is like you know that you have your own position and just sitting there together and being or maybe you know it’s one night you really need a massage right now you know I really just after having a long day or a long week and be with the kids so much that’s what I really need so communicating that to your partner and really staying in touch with that and not being embarrassed or not feeling like it’s too much or too much of a burden or whatever it is just really being clear about what you deeply need I’m in a lot of that comes down to really checking in you know with yourself all the time and seeing what’s there I really feel like things like that even though you know you might be cuz it’s also self-care right so you’re able to connect with your partner in that way and then you’re also able to have that time must be nurtured and a slowing down which is also key so I think everyone is going to work differently and it’s going to be unique for all of us but it’s really about finding those opportunities to stay consistent to really stay connected in those small tangible ways and mlc really accepting that it’s okay that you know your relationship has changed the amount of time might be able to have to devote to one another Soul has changed I’m not true but you can actually take all that and evolve it into something in a lot of cases that really goes much deeper than that you know because now it’s it’s amazing you know you have this this connection and you know going through motherhood and Emma strikes that that gives you time to actually be able to take that foundation and that strength and that those nurturing abilities and that expression being able to use that with your partner in your relationship I’m having that Foundation really can make me very powerful in a way that’s unexpected just as amazing as you always bring it back to the fundamentals of the practices this is not all hot air to talk about it tell about doing it doing the work and I just feel like it makes me think that I can think of I mean I know some couples will have the foresight to at least make prenuptial agreement but I can’t think of anyone who they actually said we are going to go through the most insane trans transformation of everything we know we can if its first time parents who have no clue what to expect and they and what if they were to get these to be the eye of a storm throughout anyting that’s the Abbey unless Ty gazing the synchronized breathing you can’t touch that space with anything so but but pure Bliss and whatever does need to get work through if it’s done in that space it’s going to be conscious it’s going to be a constructive and it’s going to be a firming so I feel like it’s the what I’m hearing you say and what diarrhea firm is two people listening if you were expecting and you want to keep this container of love together and ever strengthening then start doing his practices now and know that you’re going to really rely on them it’s going to be life-and-death okay we’re just going there so I can breed all right like can’t we just do that let’s just do that next week or let’s just all of that I mean once you start doing it and engaging and you feel that present in your body and the Net Connection you have to just trust that all of that and all of that adds up and all of that makes a difference in your relationship every moment of that that time that you have on to be able to connect in that way as powerful well thank you again for bringing it back to to those core practices again you could have a lot of compliments sure there’s a million complicated bits of advice that people could give for this but this is so practical and and I just I dare people could really do it in and I don’t think you can fail you know I don’t think it’s possible to fail if you have good intentions and you do the scratches so yeah so we were getting also to your kind of making a perfect segue to the next question which is more more about the the asymmetry of responsibility and Duty specially for breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be carried to full-term and whatnot it’s it’s like there’s such a the mail investment just as how I always make this joke there probably less violence in the world is men had to breastfeed but women actually held the babies in their room still so imagine that you wouldn’t be off to go into war and using weapons and guns and swords that she had breastfeeding on demand for whatever after 5 years income that would be great that leaves man with such an unfair and balance of freedom and privilege to not be bound to the those tasks so a lot of women are rightfully lamenting this sensitive of the men who are supposed to be there showing up to with the with the mother is hoping for is that yeah he’s going to go to work and put food on the table and make it so I don’t have to work hopefully or I can work you know in a way that I can still be involved in my children’s lives you know for God’s sake you know who something something not just not just the short maternity leave remind me that the CEO of YouTube is a yogini who is Hardcore advocate for way longer maternity leave or something yeah I didn’t know that I’ll send you a link to a video where it where you get to see that she’s actually really badass them she’s a fierce that ass woman who’s awake I have no idea how did you navigate and how do you recommend for women who maybe don’t have is as blessed of a of a beloved Fixer-Upper type type men how do you get them on board with really going the extra mile of of checking in about about the needs a mother you know mother would have if she is being assertive about her knees in about the new suicide where she would like how can you be humbled to her and just be asking and showing up to being serviced that’s a question that’s a really great question and I have to say that I’m really fortunate with Eric because he I mean he has just him and he is just been a tremendous support from the beginning but then at the same time it’s like I also have to do my part with him right of being very clear about I need you no because then it that this always with him you know in the beginning of special rub up against this when he just wouldn’t know you know and I would be just waiting silently expecting something but he wouldn’t really know that that was what exactly I was looking for right because for women it’s like having that ability to breastfeed and nurture and carry this baby. Room I mean just how we have those abilities so readily at hand and we know what we need sometimes it’s hard to say yeah I need this actually it sometimes it’s hard because where we can be so strong you know and we can put off the 15 so strong and like we have everything together and I know that I do that a lot of time where I’m just like yep I’m good I don’t need help I look what I’m doing all by myself I’m doing all these amazing but that really inside I’m like oh my gosh like what am I I can’t do all this by myself and just allowing your partner that opportunity like okay like this is really what I need and this is the support that I need and this is how I feel going through that and not being afraid to say I am overwhelmed right now you know and and can you please and saying this from a place of love right not from a place that judgment and like what are you doing for me and you know resenting that you know you have more freedom than me and Bubba blah and I’m here breastfeeding or whatever it is not doing it from that place but from you know from your center from a place of love like I’m I’m really overwhelmed I need help with this right now you know can you get up be up with a baby now for two hours because I only had 3 hours of sleep last night instead of just silently you know doing in that moment when you feel I mean I I just I know a lot of of moms and a lot of friends who dust will just be like okay well he didn’t you know my partner my spouse he didn’t step up and so I had to do it and then my will but did you say something and they’re like no or maybe they did say something but you know it wasn’t from that place you know of just clear intentional loving vulnerable until. I think that was one of the biggest things for me especially you know when our relationship I’m like okay and then you know my husband tries to tell me like he’s Eichler like he’s like really I want to be able to show up for you like I want to be strong for you I want you to feel good but he’s like I honestly don’t I just need to to hear it I just sometimes I need to be told or I need to be reminded because it doesn’t come as naturally to me and then show me be mindful of that and not you know not falling to being hurtful or resentful something makes me cute different do you know well that’s really really profound that that really gets to the hardest exactly what I’m seeing go wrong inside once at once that slippery slope really hard I mean it’s kids once this thing start to add up then breaking through that you’re really. It’s really snowballing and that’s your thing everything is this Noble thing I’ve seen it yet so that is great advice I think that work that I said the fly to something if x is kind of ridiculous that it reminds me of I remember seeing young young women and whatever middle school or high school and home home economics class and they will be given an assignment to have a baby doll with them for whatever and in that relationship it’s like okay honey we’re going to do what it’s going to feel like for me to be busy and need help from you and you put in your garden that would be funny if it decided to give people that sensitivity at sensitivity training cuz once it’s already ratchet up and then more expenses than what I’m seeing to notice let me know way more than I do but it’s like I don’t think I think people underestimate the cost of of multiple visits to the pediatrician a week you know it’s like figuring out food allergies and decoding the sugar all of the ways that sugar is is is surreptitiously inserted into packaged food and just it’s such a pill battle to be holistic and to be in at all so it’s just this this is all in on top of just I mean most people are just buying everything off the shelf from entertainment to toys to food to diapers and whatever it is it’s all just off the shelf but to have that effect of wanting to do better than the last Generations or to resist the marketing and be more green or whatever that’s a whole another layer of the building so you know it’s just to get more and more complicated and at the end of the day I see the women just getting ran ragged and the dudes just kind of blowing him off sadly to say but if we could he had say that actually kind of Segways a bit to another question which is and this I mean you could you could write a whole book just on this subject alone out so I don’t expect you to to go too far into it but maybe just some off the top of your head pointers and we can move along quick to know we’re getting close on time so so any suggestions for creative and educational and non-toxic toys just a few maybe went to one website or one store just don’t know anything I don’t know if I’d be the best person to ask about that because I not that they have a choice in general just because you know like all the plastic and everything I mean and we like literally their toys are like one corner of our house like a couple of containers and that’s it and they barely even play them to be honest with you I feel like the simpler the better you know I feel like I’m all about like art you know art projects you know the pain and the crayons and all the art supplies and things like that so that they can enhance their minds and use their hands that way and explore that way they’re into that but I found that you know the purchases that I made with toys throughout the years it’s like that use it and then they’re done and that’s like a big hunk of plastic sitting there are biodegradable and Wooden Spoons and then they’d be busy for 2 or 3 hours you know that they have gotten that I get them they’re like okay and then they open it and then they look at it for 10 minutes and then I end up you know it’s just a way so yes so we do more we like to do more stuff you know in nature I mean they like to play you know what they say they love gospel they love being outdoors they love Ari and they love puzzles and things like that so that’s why I hope that I hope and pray that we will all have abundant opportunities to being healthy natural environments and have plenty of more outdoor time the better cuz there’s some nature is like endless you know just being outside they’re like so fascinated by every little thing the backyard I don’t know it exactly how I like how did the people survived all of those many years ago without these big pieces of plastic and well that is exactly what I thought I hope to hear in and a very firm it if so this is another test of the last one here is probably the the most kind of universal so I don’t know if there is an answer to this question however I died would like to spend I would like to spend my golden years doing a lot more anthropological research on on foraging sigala Terry and societies before you spell hunter-gatherer societies who have basically none of the the neurotic issues that people in the modern world have and and I love to know I would like to believe that there is that there was a golden age of human Innocents where the terrible twos didn’t exist and then that we could decode that and figure out what is it more nurturing Less Talk toxins I mean is it just that there’s so much overstimulation and so many maybe you’re actually able to perceive carcinogens at that age and then you stopped being able to and that’s why I mean it could be anything less or I could just sent them know something very out of balance that’s just modern so I’m just wondering if you have if you were really idealistic about know I’m going to teach there going to be a master Yogi’s by the age of one so that the terrible twos happen though I already beat exam enough I don’t know why you if you were like I don’t know like tell me what that’s been like for you and then if you have advice for people who are in that approaching that Horizon will for me I really I really just try to go with the flow you know just so I’ll talk to style just like accepting every part of it I was just part of the the beautiful messy process of development and growth and exploration and sometimes I do know because otherwise then it’s just become so hard you know what I’m saying because you expect it is you’re going to have meltdowns right it’s not it’s not going to be easy is there at like going to be some very tough days especially in the beginning if it’s going to be hard you feel like what what am I what did I get myself into one of my hairdo evaporate the next moment you know you’re going to feel the most joy and Bliss and happiness that you ever felt like wow that’s amazing that I get to be a part of this process you know that I get to witness this human being growing and developing and it’s it’s just amazing so it’s really you know you know the whole ton truck idea of a flowing through those energy that accepting every moment no matter how chaotic and allowing those emotions and those feelings and those moments to move to you during this challenging time to witness in you know children and young children because it’s like they can like be so happy in one moment and literally within five seconds that can beat me on the floor it’s crazy right it’s like oh my gosh the wide array of emotions from moment to moment and not inhibit that till I I feel like you know it’s like wow for me initially seen that in the beginning and fidget with night was my first one and that you can just move so fluidly like this and just just like that and get so consumed by something else in another moment we just amazing to me so I think we can really take a lot of sign a lot of lessons and just being present at something to a Full Circle closed right now because what I am even before you started to reply that lesson for grown-ups really about about cycling through your full expression and not choking your body is response to a situation out and the full the full body response to a situation I was actually remember me on my phone while I remember a room full of adults it you and Eric’s condo and we were being instructed to behave like children having a tantrum so that we can feel good and actually know the nice that storm there’s like the sun and the blue sky and in the EXO baekhyun the funny faces and doing the monster dance and some just like well you’re probably realizing hits are the times of the exactly yeah it’s it’s pretty amazing to witness is there a word for like reverse parenting or something has got to be a word for the the the from children actually teaching adults what they’re forgetting and I didn’t mean well that’s really it’s a really heartwarming conversation and I feel like the people who are hearing this and who have experienced so much pain and distress that there is such a open source free to use to spend your own time studying it get this book read the book watch Roadies videos I certainly considered to be the highest resource that I like to share with folks because of the same reason they listen before adjusters I don’t feel like there is a knot a snake-oil aspect of what you’re selling and there’s not a sort of a shady ulterior motive saying a gender that I have to worry about and and I just can’t say that about that many people until I’m sure you know and I certainly feel for myself that you know I have I always want to be deferring is often as possible to sort of protect my Integrity to not be the what do they call it like the god cock Shaman is just a narcissistic people’s souls and that’s easy enough to it’s easier to take that route of that that black timeshare manipulate manipulate almost hard not to do it so I mean I’m making and I feel like we are making major effort cuz that’s the complete opposite of what you are and what you and body I mean from the very beginning so yeah no thank you I really feel like you are just I mean somebody who’s just really in there doing that you’re like doing the work you know and you like do it like with an open heart you’re just like in there and you’re talking to everybody and just creating this just really amazing platform. You should be really proud of well thank you again and again I have to say you helped start at all and one of my the first real social proof that I had was that was your gracious licensing of me to share some of the video work that we did together it’s been a blessing that go into detail but all that in that in that previous episode supposed to listen of that and I will say that we we were blessed and burden in this in this time of this episode to take to cover a good intro to the book and also to open this discussion about time to Parenting I definitely want to set the intention that in the future we will give more of a of a deep dive into your personal background and it sort of will let that be a cliffhanger to hear about your experiences early introduction of Tantra and just kind of the got your path of building that confidence and certainly the form give experience Syfy oh my God it all yeah we haven’t got into your filmography either still be there next time to say this for next time to talk about birth because yes I mean not as deep and my experience naturally delivering and doing it with Tantra as my Foundation is the only way that I said I survived it and actually enjoyed it. Arrington have the complete box set free thank you so much thank you so much for having me it was really great and most richest time in in a moment to to share this Basin and certainly yeah it’s it’s a got it just give you a big big bow down because this you were the one who helped me start this this whole journey I don’t know I don’t know who I’d be or where I’d be doing it if we didn’t have a Meeting of Minds you know so yeah I can’t believe I forgot to say this I mean you were seriously you were the first one who discovered my website you were the first one who reached out to me and one of the first that I’ve actually I will say the first that I taught that I didn’t know because I had started already like teaching but like you know friends and friends of friends but you were the first clean one like the first student I was like oh wow yeah that that walked in and like was the beginning of really that Journey so thank you I did not know that I did not realize that that that’s funny so funny I can’t believe I never told you that that’s very well so everybody just like get over your awkwardness and just represent just like bring your egg and no matter what things will come out you know it’ll all fall in place to get back to the Sam and yeah I give them my love and thank them for allowing you to to do the book and for all of the people who parted the sea so that you could get that book done and then provide provide that to us and so much more thank you I know it I just want to say thank you so much for Amy what you just what you spoke about earlier just blew me away how you been stepping up to support women and you know what your mother’s I mean you are really holding for me to space there and this is really something that you know I know that would indeed and you know a lot of them have been longing for so thank you so much for for being that person and for filling that role cuz it’s just amazing the work that you’ve been doing all these years I thank you you planning to see each other that they were they say that it’s the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree at least in the sense of the guru to train me to be a womanizing pick up artist in the name of conscience so I guess that’s why we you know gravitated toward each other There Was You know. The little like energy so I think I don’t think you would have found that path that was not your will thank you so much again yeah so much so much good vibes and good times and we will be in touch soon and and best of luck with all of your your your book emotional adventurous okay great thank you so much fun. Country Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple provide ketologic employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Township Park. Com Thomas gay

Magical Intelligence for Psychedelic Rebels with Shonagh Home TPP203

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In this episode I’m joined again by Shonagh Home, the mushroom priestess who never ceases to amaze! Our conversation topic this time is the launch of her Manifesting 101 course which she graciously allowed me to experience.

It was perfect timing for me to take the course as I was in the eye of the storm of transformation and the wisdom bestowed through the course served as the psycho-spiritual scaffolding to build a ramp towards greater freedom and abundance in alignment with the divine. Without it I could well have continued digging a deeper tunnel straight to the demonic underworld. I sh*t you not!

This course contains some of the most important words to live by, and while it draws upon a wide range of esoteric and mystical themes, the no-none-sense practical applications that are provided will put any skeptic in check.

This course serves as the functional of anti-malware/anti-virus software on your computer. It works its magic weather or not you make a firm commitment to embark on a path of magical discipline or not. It won’t do the work for you, but it will without a doubt expose your weak, lazy, and self dooming patterns of mental and verbal behavior. If you do take steps to implement the teachings into your future, be prepared for the

Please visit her website at: https://www.shonaghhome.com And sign-up for her Manifesting 101 course here: https://www.shonaghhome.org/manifestating-101

About Shonagh:
Shonagh Home is a shamanic therapist, teacher, writer and poet. Her specialized private sessions and retreats are probing and revelatory, assisting clients to break chronic, self-defeating patterns, and move into empowered personal sovereignty. Shonagh is an international public speaker on the subject of visionary shamanic-spirit medicine, a voice for stewardship of the honeybees, and a teacher on the subject of Traditional Foods. She is author of the books, ‘Ix Chel Wisdom: 7 Teachings from the Mayan Sacred Feminine,’ ‘Love and Spirit Medicine,’ ‘Poetic Whispers from the Green Realms,’ and ‘Honeybee Wisdom: A Modern Melissa Speaks.’

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved Walking the Tightrope on podcast episode number 203 I have yet again what a my favorite previous guess Shawna home on again now to talk about another training program that she is providing online through their website and after I completed and we did we had discussed Her Sacred mushroom practicum course and so much to learn from that and so much to to apply from that and really I feel like it’s going to be a module with in my coaching and counseling programs that I offer for private individuals really that that’s for them to a lose their psychedelic virginity per say I want this to be a prerequisite for that I want to I want it to be a sort of four other colleagues and peers who would might be doing ceremonial work with me in any capacity that they have that under their belt so to speak and that we’re speaking the same language and and that was really my prayer from when I first read love and spirit medicine wish that I knew actually the first time I heard you Shana on a podcast on the Psychedelic salon at was maybe 2013 when I first heard you one of your early talks mentioning the rigor of scholarship that you put into reading different books on mushrooms of course finding out a lot of the officers were men and then feeling compelled to write a more heart centered feminine more personal exploration and after reading that and knowing you done that work I really just knew that you were going to be the one to the go to Modern chamonix Priestess to usher in the paradigm shift that is going to involve The Mystery of the mushrooms for the modern world so this is the fact that you made that that mushroom practicum course that is really the answer to my prayers and and followed up from that if that wasn’t enough of you also put together an equally astounding and an in-depth and comprehensive course on manifestation which takes a lot of the more best celery kind of new agey stuff that has more Mass Appeal right now have more Pride adoption than then not save the Psychedelic work people can resonate with that and I’ve had a lot of priming on these topics but you bring into it a far more advanced mystical and far more advanced mythological and folkloric wisdom to it that you don’t get so much in things that are trying to be all about just it’s all about Quantum stuff it’s all about human potential stuff and they kind of stripped out the the personalities and the and the the sort of I think about engaging with helpers and keeping negative Spirits at Bay and all of that actual Witchcraft and more folkloric type of wisdom you really bring all that back into the science of manifestation see but it’s the best of both worlds that’s my sort of review after having gone through it and I’ll say before we open it up for you to share all about it I will just say that you had gifted me access to the program and I went devoured it and binge listen as I was going through a pretty serious transition and transformation in my life and there was so much moments where I was where I had to wear it called me out on being a slacker on principles that I had been aware of but that I had not been fully keeping in good posture with let’s say a lot of the stuff having to do with the syntax and the word choice and the justice spellcraft that it is to think the language that you think in the language that you speak in the portents the importance of monitoring that and having a being assertive guardian of your own Magic Magical spellcraft if you don’t have that Consciousness or even if you do and you don’t have these reminders that that that was really extremely powerful and then there’s so many other dimensions and so many other kind of lineages of wisdom and resourcing that you had pulled into this program that was really extremely moving in in and really it’s so far I feel like it’s since that was maybe a few weeks ago when I when I had that experience and I already noticed positive habits and positive reframes in end way way better buffering of reactivity to things and really having a sort of sense of being helped the sense of that experience tweaking subtle settings in subconscious patterns of thought and and visualization so that you don’t have to put all of your focus on these principles and practices they should happen kind of in the desktop background but actually be instead of all the malware that we’re running off and against ourselves it’s actually cleaning up a lot of that malware and actually doing functions that we set it out to do like actually and I love the way you said it we have these mines let’s play with them you know that’s have fun playing with us exploring it so I’m really in that good mood and things are flowing and said I could say I was a tribute a lot of my future success to to this dude thinks you against Hannaford for joining us in if you want to tell us about what led up to this this program and and certainly some of the highlights that you share personally in it and then kind of break it down so we can know what to to looks what to expect from it okay well thank you so much oh my goodness I made it really so appreciate your your kind words and your enthusiasm and it’s so obvious you you listened and you applied what I was sharing and I just so very much appreciate your just your enthusiasm thank you so much all right so I’ll tell you this course came so I have been working with the mushroom now for almost eight years and I encountered mushroom Spirits in its first year of monthly mushroom Journeys that I was doing was called to do and they became like my advisers and one thing that was repeated over and over to my sick Aries skull was get my mind right dear get your mind right is it constantly and you know I have this is interesting I read about this astrologically I’m an Aries but I have a Virgo rising and and and I’ve been a chronic worrier for a long long time and it and and oh my God I have moved beyond that and in a big way for the most part the stuff doesn’t go away but you learn how to manage it properly but one thing I read about Virgos so Virgo is the last sign of Summer and so when you have the last sign of any season like for instance Gemini’s the last sign of spring. Sign is called mutable so it’s mutable not quite Springvale it’s not quite summer but yeah it’s going to be summer and won’t be necessary spring for long it was mutable Virgo OK where’s our summer button Falls coming so it’s this mutable sign and I read that Burgos can can can be chronic worriers and the reason being is that what comes after summer is fall and fall is when things start to die back anyway for me that me a tremendous amount of sense I was like okay okay this is very interesting cuz this is kind of part of my wiring right and anyway and then also text a lot of self-doubt now I am definitely a self-starter and Visionary and all of that but it would be sort of you know the wee hours of the the night when you’re alone special that stuff tends to creep up on you when you’re in bed in your mind is supposed to be at rest and then we’ll would give me at least in the past of every reason why this wasn’t going to work why this is going to fall apart of why I screwed it up for you on and on right like this crazy he’s negative voices that so many people live with and it’s so again we’re back to that mushroom sang to me for you know a long time get your mind right here and and I really I have apprenticed myself to those Spirit teachers I think of them is tutelary spirit and something that has been impressed upon me these past eight years with that medicine is it is all about the power of the mind and and and so what happened to me after a couple years or two or three years poetry was starting to really flow from me and and now when I am called to the mushroom which is maybe once a year it’s a big night and I just go in with my recorder and poetry just flows forth and and and it’s also happened when I went to Scotland and I spent time in the stone circles those are are are located on these geomagnetic hotspots and we’re mostly water and so you’re within that frequency and it will activate a lot go a lot within you just us the mushroom can as well and so so so there was a lot of poetry coming through me then as well and when I say through me it was very much channels and it would come out like I would just speaking into a recorder or I would type it out very quickly and every word rhyme there was no editing necessary it was pretty wild and so and I find they play with words as as the mushroom doesn’t touch with the number of people are like you out yet to find that also you know with it with the mushrooms in Alaska show me people who work with that medicine become really fascinated with language fascinated with with words and an end so in any case so Within These poetic messages also teach me about country training the mind and I’ll tell you also 6 years ago on my 50th birthday I just thought I was going I didn’t do any mushrooms for just a couple years I was going to do 7 for some reason anyway and inside width on a friend’s farm and I was in her greenhouse and these beings came through and just kind of had me for the rest of the journey and I recorded it and one of the beings was studying The Matrix of my mind centrally and stroking its beard sang What a mess what a mess because at the time I was I realized you no looking back I could be so negative you know I mean and it’s hard of course not to look at what’s playing out on this planet which has been playing out for quite some time it’s kind of just look around and go on my God we’re fucked like that’s what I was saying at the time and this being she said if she thinks she’s fucked then so it shall be and and so I listened to that the next day when I was going through the recording and and I just applied deposit and it was just like okay wait a minute wait a minute I know being is trying to get me to realize the power of my voice to power of my thoughts in mind and the power of my voice and and it was a sobering moment for me and indents and kind of the beginning of Korra of I would say a deepening of of this understand and getting a better understanding of kind of how my own mind works and and reality that that I create for myself as a result and and I know you know there was that movie The Secret and they’re all that stuff and in the power of whatever it’s called I don’t know but it’s all the fasting stuff and and you know there’s actually there is great power in it in that but actually think this is very old and I know it’s very old because eventually I found a rising which you can find online deathly free it’s called as a man thinketh and it’s by a fellow named James Allen and he wrote 2021 Pages back in 1905 he was basically riffing off a line in the Bible pretty old book and this line said something to the effect as a man thinketh so he is and so James Allen clearly this haunted him and he really really pondered this and he wrote that just got to putting his thoughts out there on the effects of our thinking on the circumstances of our life the effects of our words how that affects our health our body and and the power of thinking 808 a clear mannered way and in other words he said something and I’m just going to quote the very first one of this isn’t the very first this is around the beginning of of his book this chapter is called effect of thought on circumstances and he writes a man’s mind may be likened to a garden which may be intelligently cultivated or allowed to run wild the weather cultivated or neglected it must and will bring forth and so there’s more to that and you know this culture biodynamics that you and I love stock that he is he’s making the analogy that that the mind is its a garden right and so you know traditionally one would tend ones garden and so the mind has to put forth it can’t not so we can if we are not disciplined in terms of our sinking then it it it it runs amok and I mean I’m just I so see in my own life how my own thoughts would would would result and circumstances in my life that would would confirm shall we stay with the way I was thinking or My Philosophy right and and and then my own patterning would continue to repeat themselves I get caught in this is kind of mind Loop and and so his book is amazing it’s a free pdf not really book is 21 Pages you can also go on YouTube and you can listen to it for free and it’s a living person’s voice is not the may I sing and and there’s tremendous wisdom there and end and so we are we are raised from birth we show up here the veil comes down we forget where we were before we came we forget what we are and we are raised by folks wherever they may be for under the spell to whatever degree and then we are cells fall under that spell and then oh by the way then we are indoctrinated in these really deplorable quote on quote education system is run by the Prussian education system in think we spoke about that before that Prussian education system is worldwide and it is all about indoctrinating children into adults who function in unquestioning compliance and it makes them predictable okay and so we’ve all experienced that and then we have a course in media which is also highly controlled and and all of this is it’s it’s constant repetition and so we’re really being programmed from birth and I think you and I have talked about the word government from in Latin it’s go burn witch things to control and momenta is mine and so and were raised in playing with words a cult sure and so really what this has been for me this work with a with mushroom and this work I have had to do with my own mind is a sense of kind of deprogramming essentially deprogramming from all the conditioning that I myself have received and it’s amazing I mean this conditioning it’s it’s ingrained and and and you know I went to a small convent school run by nuns from Nursery School through 7th grade and we were raised to be proper young ladies which failed miserably for me but I can still see that response you know like where we are trained like dogs to respond to Authority in a very submissive way and end so for us fiery and and forthright and opinionated oh my goodness it’s still shocked and upsets me you know when I kind of see myself by catch myself you know the rare occasions I don’t know it was some kind of authority and you realize oh my God that’s just still so deeply ingrained so anyway charge the kind of course talked about this about how the mushroom would help to delete the program and I love how you referred to as malware with system our mind system really is malware and so this stuff takes discipline it takes practice there is no magic pill you know and send this is precisely what James Allen talks about as well like you got to work on this really hard. I cannot recommend his his book enough his writing it’s it’s it’s so it makes such perfect sense and and he writes about fear and doubt that that they always result in failure always result in failure and that you have to be essentially a kind of warrior of your own mind you know and and so and no one else is going to do this for us and there’s no magic pill of course something like the mushroom will certainly help open your mind to the possibility it’ll open your mind to treatment can open your mind a tremendous Insight ultimately the ball is in our court and so something else that the beings been explaining to me first of all we’ll date they speak of the mind is a wand and they have said that actually the Holy Grail is in the mind and I’ll tell you my main teacher Brew join with Johns Hopkins trained MD who walked away from a very illustrious career to be a teacher and he was very young young and very much amiss. He was just a fantastic man and a tremendous influence on my life my life she told great stories you told a story just to give you a copy of an ID on the power of the Mind here and just what we’re all packing without even realizing it he told story about these Studies have been done on people with multiple personalities and there was a woman I looked up to study and found it who has diabetes type 1 insulin the whole deal should true personalities though the other was healthy and so one body one mind and of course she couldn’t do this she didn’t know she was doing this right this is such a mystery to the multiple personality thing but she would go into the personality that he had diabetes and you know she had to take her insulin and and of course they were they were they were testing her blood everything Wendy healthy personality took over her entire body responded and adjusted itself to accommodate the healthy personality no diabetes none so and oh by the way she had two menstrual cycles each month one for each personality and so again she wasn’t doing that consciously should no idea she was even doing that but what that says about what the mind is capable of is pretty extraordinary and also is Celtic Women as a or a gallic woman release better term I mostly Scottish and Irish there so we had in Ireland long long ago The Bard’s the Druid class they were men and women the priest priest S-Class and those people were deeply deeply learn it in terms of the power of the mind right and they would study for 15-20 years and nothing was written down everything was memorized and so it’s it boggles the mind to even think of how you would memorize is very very complex sonnets and stories and and you know that there were that the Poetry was in deeply and coded right so in other words we are like Whisper of what we once were including the way we use our mind like I really know there’s a lot of talk about how we’ve all been dumbed down and and you can say that but really when you start making the air since you know what the Ancients it’s mind-blowing so we’ve got work to do or I’ll say I had and still can’t get work to do you know and explain to me what is dire Everett this whole thing’s Electric it’s electric they said your spirit is electric and also because I am a medium I bring these beings through with they would explain to me when I would bring them to you on the medicine I always required amount of water and so and they would call my vest my body a vessel will a vessel is a container and what are we mostly but water will what does water carry but it’s charged it carries charge and so we are the charge for this body vessel each one of us at Wheaton spirit this body our spirit is Electric in our body carries. Well when I would do that medicine and other beings would come in that those were different currents of electricity and so I would require more water to accommodate the extra current in me and then you have to be careful because you don’t want to fry your nervous system with all that electricity so Connecticut’s they were explaining to me see all of this I got in the mushroom you know they were explaining to me hear your thoughts like well we know shots fired neurons fire they are electric and so every time you think of something you’re charging it and and by the way so we’re mostly water are spirits electric will every electrical cord wire has in a field around it a magnetic field and that field either repels or tracks will we all have an energy field around Aura around our body and that either repels or attracts and there’s certain people who are highly sensitive who can either see or feel your energy field and they can feel stuff in it that reflects that stuff in the fields reflex what’s going on in the psyche of that person and of course we know the alchemical maxim of as within so without and microcosm and macrocosm in so so whatever is held in mind is is is felt in the energy field and and and and reflected in New York field and then and then you magnetized to yourself accordingly and so yeah I said it I just had a vision of visual Kei when you’re saying that my neurons were firing at that will it first I saw a pigpen of course from Charlie Brown and the Flies orbiting him and the end what he was attracting of that effort that’s a shamanic metaphor used before and then I was thinking why I was so there are people who it will probably all of us if we’re in a funk then we basically I imagine being the equivalent of walking fly paper if you were in a negative vibration you’re attracting negative tests that say from the Astros playing who were who are being just by the laws of these of these mechanics like you’re saying the way the Synergy of the way these is systems actually work it’s just effective these things being drawn in and attracted and then I thought well then you could also be on have a more positive walking the beauty way is he might say and you could be attracting hummingbirds can send you could be more like a more like a bird bath vibration and you be attracting all these beautiful benevolent to sip a synergistic beings as opposed to piss in that you could have to but that’s an interesting point this idea if we extrapolate that principle of your either always there’s just the two poles of attracting or repelling on certain on a certain Atomic level and if we are unquestionably inarguably composed of a medium that has that field around it then the only thing that we don’t know without the mushrooms that say showing us or the guy selling us is when we repel or attract what are we what are we bringing in or what are we pushing how do you know if the SATs that was an important I hope to add something you know to the visual visual illustrate it will the state that point I don’t know if that if that sounds like it resonates put on because they’re afraid of the taboo of lesbianism and because it would be against the rules and whatnot so when I melted down and was innocent ceremonies were psychedelic ceremonies were they all of these stories were melted away and it was just women in fucking ecstasy the agony and ecstasy and using my cock as a prop but also as an energetic current in a source of love and it my refinement was allow me to be in that space and I realize that it’s like it is so cumbersome to be responsible for a woman’s orgasm in a love making session why would I want all that burned on myself cuz like I have to add my age I have to think about a not coming to fast beat not losing my erection and in trying to make a sincere and emotional a sincere present connection with the person who I am experiencing this with that is enough for me to have to do now I’m responsible for her squirting and coming of the Saints sake when I saw the leveraging of all these other women and how freely flowing the orgasms come when the openness and the connectedness is there with other women so so like I said I’m not taking a step back and now if anybody wants to come at me they’re going to have to go through that that ate a form of of grade school of learning in orbit black you going to come at me if you want to fuck me you need a black belt in loving me to get in hand if you going to any Karate Dojo they’re not used hey I want to do what you do can you hand me a black belt right now please here I’ll give you a beer can I buy you a beer and then you give me a black belt no stupid you’re so stupid amphib so what was the quote from the movie UHF which is very a so Daddy definitely watch UHF to understand where my sense of humor comes from but yeah it’s good so so we’re solving this problem and creating these designer experiences and so what I realized is that the impulse for a woman to have this one-dimensional relationship with a man’s cock so that she wants to possess it so as you’re a very own the way for me to logically very very simple-minded lycee what is the how do you prevent that is to say well you will learn to get to know my cock at exactly the same time as another person and you will only have a 50/50 relationship with whatever you do you say like you would with your best friend and I had her saying in people may not like to hear me say is cuz it sounds good feed it to your best friend first feed it to your best friend first and I didn’t even think about the secondary effect of that which for me that was just that was just like I’m going to know that you’re not going to lose your mind with jealousy when you can just say here actually you can I’ll let you go first so that would be the the the tantric taboo test of transgression against yourself like that Siri you’re going to lose your mind will feel into that and start simple we’re going to dance together and you’re going to watch just that and is that make your blood boil what happens after your blood simmers down do you start to like so now it’s like whatever that point is where that demon comes out of jealousy you were going to rub the shit out of your clit until it goes and tell you what you’ve you become a demon Whisperer with your clit and me and everybody just wants to create more and add more locks to the fire and you transmute that negative emotion into a positive motion and then in the probably will be called conversion the opposite we don’t have a word for it we do not have a word except for that one which no one knows it set designer neologism but we don’t have the band singing about how good it feels to watch their wife get fucked by Adam Ant And so yeah here we come back full circle so we will be so we’re going to we’re going to have these experiences we’re going to sing about it and and so this is the this is the what the the the climax of this conversation will be in my opinion is is when I talked about how the it’s not just a theoretical Gaiden guiding principle to say oh yeah we’ll will like yeah okay you flip a coin and I have sex first with the person who wins that round and then I stopped having sex with you and hopefully it didn’t lose my wind in 5 minutes cuz I was so fucking turn on by the sexy after they all I got another $5 and it’s over for me for like they’re already like forgot every system anyway cuz they’re tearing each other inside out and everything and I’m just watching and trying to like make it come to live again and finally it will eventually but you should know I’m getting That’s The Hampsterdance the Tantra hence the sexual Jedi Knight training so that you can breathe breathe through and in have the orgasms without losing the love don’t be a 5 lb jump so hit the two feminists so I think I’m going to say okay if she’s dying to give me a blowjob then like we time it for like okay like we’re going to play your favorite song and it’s going to be about the same equal thanks to to her favorite song and you going to eat each other’s favorite songs and I’m like hold each other’s heads and massage each other and just be like holding each other from behind and Miss Priss massaging each other that they take turns but there’s still a potential in that for for jealousy to arise in forever and for it to be I mean I just thought of a way to actually literally short-circuit everything in a really beautiful elegant circuit and so here is the design and I will try to verbally explain unless they can so I love the idea of two women’s hands clasping together around my cock and massaging it gently up and down as they face each other and our eye gazing intermittently so the visual so far is is that the dear beloved goddesses or I are facing each other so actually agency kneeling I’m I am laying on my back and they both are kneeling with their literally as clothes into my armpit is possible so that I can reach Below in between their legs and butt so I can have a hand on each clit and vulva fingers is a good middle finger on the clit and to end so if I’m cuffing the vulva and able to use my longest middle finger to be stroking the each clit simultaneously in patterns you know singer sew and I’m basically playing streams is like playing guitar and make a solo I’m playing shift I have this is because the end of vocalizations or what I’m tuning for it you know so so it isn’t this beautiful instrument of a playing these two young hearts that are kissing each other and like I gazy and exactly is so I’m making sure that they’re not feeling left out in that apartment while I’m being stimulated and everybody is being stimulated sexually and everyone is feeling a part of a closed circuit that is meeting everyone’s needs and in and there’s no favoritism there’s no hierarchy the really so thin and if anything I am as the man in my back and that is what time trick Kali worshipping actual full fully pornographic and I hesitate to use that word was fully glorious erotic depictions of the circuitry of how this stuff works so if it’s if you’re not approve any 3 I mean if you’re not so sexually stunted then you would just understand that these icons are just road maps to the spiritual terrain of understanding the energetics of Shiva Shakti god goddess energy so we’re designing with that and we’re creating a maximum hydraulic energy flows in in in a way that is very egalitarian actually inhibits the growth of the ego and that sense of so-and-so I’ve experienced this in not that exact formation but that’s why I aspire to be a porn director so that I can I can work with people who are very comfortable taking Direction and are not going to lose their minds and so I actually had this conversation today they’re what makes me not a cult leader and what prevents me from ever becoming a cult leader is this one fundamental thing right but I have to study cold it is to know how not to be a quote later cuz otherwise I would just be cranking out so much Kool-Aid day Kool-Aid would have to invent a time to punch flavor you know I got to be sponsored by Kool-Aid the Kool-Aid man oh yeah it would have it I make my own Kool-Aid Man Township anyway after dark okay I wanted how they’ve not sued like I have all of the libelous memes and they feel bad for the Kool-Aid guy I didn’t fucking poisonous people man I don’t mean to be making fun of them and I really got to get serious about not making a joke out of the people who died in the massacre Crazy Eights it’s it’s it’s public domain now to make a joke to either the expression people say don’t drink the Kool-Aid it’s because people at Jonestown were by a charismatic cult leader who was it was an extremely right with it skips a generation maybe but that’s how memes get formed yes so I mean that’s how they sort of deprecated the roots and you say things that we don’t know how does the reason we’re numb it so they don’t drink the Kool-Aid means don’t consent to a groupthink. Virus that makes mass suicide be acceptable and so they poisoned the Kool-Aid punch and that’s how everyone can scented make give it to their kids and everyone is like this is fine and some people try to protest and they were silenced and some people try to run away and it was a nightmare and it was absolutely what I would I must not allow myself to become as a priest that uses sexual mind manipulation and coercive tactics to trade love and affection attention and orgasm for 4 unquestioning devotion into the point of suicide so that that’s the extreme case that that we that is a litmus test for if you were going down that slippery slope but I actually tend to want to study the mental illness of sociopath sociopathy narcissism and I would like to consider myself a benign I’m the benign narcissist I know that that is a character flaw that I am not how we going to like defeat by doing the past limitations as many times that night and I’m going to roll with it and I’m going to say yeah I will be like Howard Stern and I will be I’m going to if I’m going to be this personality I’m going to make a bonsai tree out of my own ego if I can and have other people help in the process but but things going going back to the to the cult thing and what me what gives me the authority to design this orgasmic Orchestra what why and how do you not just become a colder than soy everyone you meet is basically in that on that game board now how am I going to manipulate you to be in this in this position that I would like you to be in to fulfill my fantasy of engineering all this town truck stuff and and if I’m if I’m this is well that’s spit out the Kool-Aid don’t swallow I think what we’ll get to that for sure that’s going to be a we’re going to get to that but can’t forget that we’ll save that for the for the most triumphant moment the climax is when we’re going to use that it’s so precious now after it’s been built up so ever since a joke that’s going about 2 it’s going to explain come on your face it’s going to come on yesterday and you’re going to beg for it and so hits is it is I’ve had people beg me to come in the third eye and it was hard to resist but this is going to be almost as good as that sharing you this one liner inside joke and just a minute but to wrap up this sort of dark out thing that we were doing with the coal thing is that it how do you know how do I hedge against being the creepiest man every like people think that Barney the purple dinosaur because he and forgive me if I’m butchering the facts here but as far as I know he’s doing what I considered to be taboos for me which is charging women money to have sexual penetrative intercourse with them above all without protection and making that into a to me that’s not a scalable business model and you can ask your doctor wife but Barney I mean I get it and I get that that’s the love thing being cultivated generated so I think I don’t know whether I consider that good pressure bad press for modern Neo Tantra or what not but I’d love to have them on the podcast I’m sure it’s going to happen and I can’t say that I was a fan of the art form of Barney the purple dinosaur but but but I would love to get to the full story and also talked about the ethics and this medical the medical duty of care that comes with sexual and pinch of intercourse with anybody so anyway that’s the sad but who were talking about okay what if you were intrigued and maybe turned on by me talking about these erotic circuit boards then you also have to be somewhat red-flagged and starting to cringe and go where how old is this get arranged in what are the incentives and how do you how do you manage the Eagles and how do you who’s in charge it’s like you can’t it’s a scary thing but you wouldn’t work but that’s why when I went when I say what I realized for me the aha moment in my sexual career was that if I want to have out-of-the-box sex I have to pay lots of money for it from professionals who have trained her nervous system to do theater performance of sexuality as escorts or as Dom’s or as porn performers because they’re good sports they’re not spoil Sports about any of the stuff for the most part if they’re treated well and respected and then contracts are here too and they know what they’re getting into and hopefully they’ve matured and hopefully their brain has developed to its full capacity IE the age that it takes to actually I don’t say that to you exactly so you better know there’s a dimension of Ethics when it comes to harvesting teenagers for your for whatever Annette and I have had some of the best sex in my life as a 30 year old being fucked up fucked senseless by teenager in a row in a monogamous relationship and I will I will tell you that it’s it some it was worth the daddy issues that I had to deal with it was worth reparenting her and it was worth every bit of emotional kind of awkwardness that there wasn’t some of the an Amex because she was such a good full spirited Prime late night it was funny cuz I was like I want to settle you down and basically like I could teach your making a kid with ADHD sit in class is like no she wants to fuck wildly she wants you to perform more than you possibly ever could even at 30 and and she and she is not she doesn’t need these esoteric practices too heavy multi-orgasmic she’s fucking coming or brains out like so hard and I and I couldn’t sit her down the aisle still enough to do any of the practices that I thought were going to be so enlightening and went in the great thing is is it a fuck it like it is certain point you just say no guru there’s a song about it’s like no guru no no scripture No play just in the Dow of the thing so anyway so that’s a side note to say there is a sacred place for adult for fully mature brain develop adults to be having sex with teenagers and and I know that it can be done because I’ve done it but it also takes you can’t just treat them like a commodity please you got to you got to think about pedagogy Nikki learned from the person that you’re teaching teaches you things to like a circle so then so we’re talking about these ethics and where I wanted to just close that point about how I do my best to not be a cult leader I thought I figured it out pretty simply and correct me if I’m wrong but basically it’s it’s I dare you to to indict me for the the criminal and civil liability of misconduct for for for structuring a certain way so this is how I this is this is very simple as this is like this I said that this is a different the difference from a cult leader is that I’m a porn director I pay women to be directed and then I pay whoever I want to I will I will I will choose performers who I resonate with for whatever we would like to do together to make beautiful art and and I will compensate them and pay them to take time out of their lives to be a part of my design and to be directed by me they’re not paying me for healing for enlightenment for direction for guidance and I’m directing them and Meghan gratifying myself and taking their money in convincing mind fucking them and taking more of their money and more than money until they don’t talk to their friends because of and that’s how Colts are basically extractive from their students the colors are extracting from their devotees the difference is how many colors do you know that actually give their devotees money I will pay you oh now I’m making corned a porn director and I am more karmically correct than the fucking Guru who is fucking having people kiss his feet and take your money so who would have thought that the corn directors were the most enlightening Yogi’s to ever attempt to be divine and I have my favorites and I’m a fan of some of them I want I want to see the names but right now but that cuz I wouldn’t want to leave any out you know what I mean bless you all for paying people to direct them into your Twisted fucking fantasies and giving them that dignity like hats of their not wondering about it cuz there’s that was having a conversation today it’s like a buyer’s remorse if I say to you I’m just saying if you remember when you had to if you were old enough to know that there was a day when when when your allowance equals one CD for $15 so humorous if you never had experience this is important I think this is important teaching is important teachable moment is that is that and I don’t want to be today. Take care no man’s planning anything in them to have fun here but this is like this is this is late so here’s the funny thing though you think about I remember what it was like when I had to convince myself that amusing that a CD that fucking sucked was actually good because I paid money for it and I would not let myself suffer the indignity of having made a mistake so I was in a state of denial and delusion so so so feeling this isn’t meditation okay everybody think of something that you paid money for that you discovered was in the zoo is suboptimal and you used mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you actually liked it even though you knew deeply that you didn’t like it but it was called buyer’s remorse it was called the sunk cost fallacy of sunk cost fallacy is that because you invested something into this you have to continue beyond the point of no return because you can’t live with yourself other ways so that is this Twisted perverse placebo effect that happens when it’s like I went to the sex guru to get healed and he said for 9999 I would get here and but I but I could also upsell to the bonus extra double healing deluxe super Cosmic Crystal trademark excetera right thing and try before you buy money back guarantee accessories that you’re all of his legal he’s in fine print all the stuff but there is but that’s where it is we’re expecting to have some result that you paid money for and you will question whether or not okay did I was a hole in my heel did I pay enough money to pay more and some money and it is it distorts things and you did it it did contaminated in a way for that so I’m skeptical that I can be done right in that sense and that’s just me so what I say let’s work in the garden together my time equals your time and now we’re planting trees equals an hour of Yoni massage your prostate massage and therefore it’s a flat equal everybody has the same it’s his first come first serve you know and orgasms for work shirts that was my hand jobs for Humanity and helping a tree with two or so you’ll see it yeah it’s a white paper was written so is he ever gets faster so so that’s how I’m not going to be a cult leader is that I’m not going to charge people money to be Pawns in my game of or are you going to be players in my Game of Thrones Township Township twister you will get paid handsomely to be in my theater my game of Township twister and you can quit you can get any time you know that’s that’s that’s the thing to you won’t be like oh if I walk away now you know that then where I’m not like what I paid for I’m I’m already invested so much forever so so many different dynamics of of incentivization happening in this thing is so anyway that that was I think it is important to lay that out and and this is probably the first time I’ve articulated it on the podcast but I just was having this conversation today with this answer the CD metaphor thing where it’s like you know it did that it’s it’s a problem that way so so that’s I will not be extracting money from people in that in that way I’d rather pay them to be in my in my Productions and feel better about it that way so getting back to the fun stuff in the production itself so imagining that that would be the way from now on where I’m like if you want to that’s basically what I just described about that circuit of three people as a minimum to starting point is like that is the that is first base now you know that’s first base because getting into the circuitry of actual intercourse that’s where it required that’s where we get into the medical the medical responsibilities aspects and we get into more of the karmic sharing we’re really swapping scum he’s on an astral level at that point more so than if it’s an outercourse thing and you can’t go back once you know I don’t want to sound like a prepaid only sound like a six- future but but they were right about this mean you’re not wrong about everything they’ve had no sex for anybody ever. Is not the solution to people having sexually transmitted demons running rampant all over the place and it’s about making them your friends and making them work for you not against you and making them expose themselves properly and in you know where it’s not a pure realm we are not going to be perfectly protected in fear we can strive for that and we can use Kundalini and Prana and mantras and all of our medicines in purgatives and things to create a cleaner vessel to make more harmonious more resonance more signal-to-noise ratio and that is what to me this is all about and why we are missing out so badly to not be like I see this if God is wanted you got it for not created to nipples I can’t suck both nipples at the same time I tried some women I can do it on I’ve done it and you can do it some women is possible but for the most part so what does that mean what are you do do you limit God or do you just find someone else to be on the left or right side of you you know what is the big deal so when I think about this math equation how many erotic how many out of the box meaning not really the selective like subjective nuanced little erogenous zones that people get overtime in our lives but the out-of-the-box everybody is wired this way count how many erogenous zones you have and how what is the minimum number of mouse penis and genitals or fingers are human appendages required to simultaneously stimulate all those places it’s more than one person I can tell you that much you know so I just want us to start there and be creative in 2N to learn how to understand that we’re missing out and we should be wanting to gamify maximizing human potential for orgasmic pleasure because that is exorcism orgasm equals exorcism in some cultures who are Les Les Mis Sara Lee poetic about the floury discourse of symbols about sex life like a Latin American Shaman is said about her sexuality in the end in her how she explained why monogamous marriage was not really a thing in a culture that permitted extramarital sex and it was that in her mind and I am not going to say her name to cool her but I will say to paraphrase the essence of this wisdom is that to her mind it was just like an orgasm is like taking out the trash and that is not that’s not to say that it is mundane or a chore it is that it is a responsibility of hygiene in your household of your body Temple you need to have orgasms they need to be fulfilling need to get the job done and that is the exorcism aspect of it so the howling screeching all of these things that are considered that witches were burned forming figli sounds that those are the sounds of actual Holiness the set of holy the sound of Holiness is a woman’s orgasm and so let’s make those come more abundantly and let’s utilize map map the erogenous zones out of the box and then map the additional ones that are my favorite song and when you talk to me like this and this certain place I’m in the back of my head there whatever and then everyone has their own map so we can learn each other’s maps and if you don’t know your own map then you can ask people to help you there’s people who would love to lick and kiss and touch you and head to toe to find and explore you and and from a breasted state of consciousness D nice and yes I like to will you bring out the best in me that’s all I think that’s all you guys add that I can’t top that is the way to end so then really that was we didn’t even know that we put the icing on the motherfuking cake by saying you bring out the Best in Me so there was a documentary about at the peak of my desire to become a a rock star in the the crust Punk metal genre grindcore all that fun stuff I was studying that I wanted to understand and clock the music industry so I was watching every documentary I could find understanding music marketing and all the stuff and then I found this great documentary about about Jimi Hendrix and and I believe it was his fiance at a time who later became his wife if I remember correctly and she was talking about the time where he was building momentum and getting lots of gigs but still underground and she said something that stuck with me forever and if this moment which is it basically the hidden tension was used turn Express yeah we we all knew he was going to get sign or we all knew that you was going to take off he was going to blow up and so she said it was just about if someone puts put the icing on the motherfuking cake you know and I know and I felt that we we’re ready for that and we did some we had some we had some ice and get put on a motherfuking cake we did you get you always want more but I look back and I don’t think we could handle more so we got what we got and now I’m on a different I have a different cake I have a different cake mix and I don’t know if it’s that time I don’t know if it’s time to put the icing on the cake or not yeah I don’t know I mean the cake it’s getting cold she heard it mean if you’d if anyone has icing out there can it please be stevia-sweetened go Steven Johnson I don’t know how to hack them will work on that today I know it’s actually what I heard is that it’s a weird additive that they used to cut it because it’s so super sweet that you would basically died of sweetness if you didn’t like the step on it with some other things so I think that’s why I love growing Stevia and having a leaf to munch on and put in the tea because then you know is nothing else being put into it and it’s just as powerful you don’t really need to if you had the the live leaves one leaf enough will be enough to knock your head off for an hour so yeah I know on that snow yeah we’re going to put this devious fresh leave puree motherfuking icing on the cake I will put the icing on my own motherfuking cake that reminds me in 1 minute I just when I thought we couldn’t go out with a bigger bang this is going to be at because there was a a ritual ceremonial I called we called apart emoni where was the Psychedelic birthday party and we smeared cake all over each other and had to basically devour for the birthday gal of her own cake and it was just nipples and asses and I wanted to be in after from there I was my breasts Elsa. Playing for sure that brother and brother best me for sure but that when I got to put the icing on cake my damn self so don’t let anyone fucking tell you that you’re not none of me if you feel like it I mean I think we’re done I just can’t I’m going to fucking drop my phone right now when I might drop my phone on the couch citizen of the count but oh shit it’s next level add icy Cipher geise that’s going to have some cake with that icing okay thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Proof of Love Ep. 7 Tantric Sex with Ben Tantra Punk Rebroadcast TPP193

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Ben Tantra Punk PicIn this episode I share a rebroadcast of my interview on the Proof of Love podcast, below is the original show notes, please subscribe to Proof of Love!

What can one say about a crypto tantric episode other than wow.  This is our spiciest Proof of Love yet! Ben Tantra Punk joined Stephanie and I to discuss this ancient practice.  In between a few laughs and blushes, we get a great overview of tantric lovemaking, how it’s different from regular lovemaking, the history of why there is tantric sex in the first place, and the joys of the female orgasm.  We went a bit over on time, but I don’t think you will mind with this subject matter! We need more love in our lives, and this episode will show you how to put some of these teachings into practice, even if calling each other goddess in bed is a little uncomfortable.

About the Guests:

Ben Tantra Punk is a sex worker, feminist porn performer, certified permaculture designer, certified tantric counselor, author, film maker, and recording artist. He’s found healing and empowerment through sacred loving arts, ecological gardening, shamanism, ecstatic trance dancing, martial arts, and open source technology. His ongoing independent short film series, Sexorcism the Tantric Opera, was launched in early 2017. It tells his story of recovery from childhood sexual trauma, adolescent sex trafficking, and the path of a wounded healer. His first book, Psychedelic Goddess Worship: Erotic Memoirs from the Astral Battlefield, is planned for release in late 2019.

He loves to help tantric seekers discover the infinite source of divine love from above, the eternal power and wisdom from the Earth below, and the bliss of conscious, healthy, diverse romantic relationships in between. He provides private coaching and counseling sessions online and in-person, and teaches publicly via livestream on the Ethereum powered SpankChain camsite at: https://beta.spankchain.com/TantraPunk His writings, music, podcasts, videos and contact info can be found at https://www.TantraPunk.com.

Do you have a burning question, or a show idea for us?  Please email us at tatiana@proofoflovecast.com!

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 194 I am being joined by Brian s gross of BSG public relations and he is such a jaw-dropping about page I just decided I really do this but I decided I definitely want to read this to really put the context in here because with with it that the merging of the technology space in the adult industry space and actually to give a little bit of backstory on this we connected now it’s been about 4 years or so since first actually started putting out a press release and seeking really advisement and consult consultation within the the the pr companies within the adult industry to see if there was any possibility to get some traction doing this sort of shamanic pornography and feminist porn kind of brand that I’ve been trying to develop mixing my music and video production and ethics and politics into media and so I have really been kind of putting The Feelers out into the space and Brian gave me some feedback back in the day and we have serendipitously reconnected recently and so I thought why not let’s have a butt supposed to connect in in this podcast domain and again I’m astounded by what he’s accomplished in some of the parallels in our Journeys here so I’m just going to go ahead and read the about page and then we’ll get started with the interview so Jared is BSG public relations takes a precise and strategic approach to promoting all facets of entertainment and efficient and motivated staff handles everything from intricate details of executive with City to positioning our clientele within compelling and effective media campaigns Street marketing teams and Creative Marketing efforts BSG public relations handles all avenues of communication is bringing your study to approach to marketing media and public relations with Creative Solutions that furthers the message & image of our clients we handle everything from the intricate details of executive publicity to positioning clients with compelling media campaigns we look to broaden and brand artist companies and products multi-level publicity campaigns combined with knowledge and background in every facet of entertainment media and communication the most importantly always putting the client first Brian Gross president of BSG PR has been in the service of media and public relations for over 26 years gross has been employed by company said Steve American recordings Warner Brothers records reprise records Elektra Entertainment Group Vivid Entertainment Group and such organizations as the Lollapalooza tour Brian Gross was an executive producer for Rio TX the search for Adam and Eve his background includes all facets of public and media relations working with some of the largest businesses celebrities and music acts in the world Brian thank you so much for joining me on the podcast and please tell us all about your personal Journey how did you get into this position of such influence and expertise school is my senior year and I’m a I’m a big Sports person as well and I was not good enough to make the varsity basketball team but wound up helping out with the younger teams and I want to getting fired for verbally assaulting a referee who completely screwed up a game and all of a sudden I had free time and I literally took out my CD collection which I know that sounds so funny in this day and age but went through it and started calling record labels and pretty much got blown off by many of them because I was a senior in high school they were looking for college kids and one label an independent label def American the girl who answered the phone was in the PR department and she still one of my best friends to the stay cuz she called she I said come in for an interview and before I knew it I was driving after school three days a week from Newbury Park California to Burbank to make press kits and learn all about the music industry well that is exciting so what were some of the what what are some of the bands in an album is like what were you into at the time I was definitely a classic rock kid a NuWave and I just wasn’t you know I was sort of what the radio fed me so you know I hadn’t really branched out as far as my music likings were concerned and you know early 90s you know 90 to 91 92 you realize just how there was no such a divided because you know really popular stuff was extremely poppy you were on the end of sort of the metal era you had this grunge thing happening you had this sort of underground music thing happening you had punk rock obviously happening but I grew up in the suburbs and and it just didn’t resonate with me at the time you know then you go to a record label and you start going through the CDs and you just start this massive Discovery and bands walk in and you meet people and you spend time with artists and musicians and it just completely through open a world that I was you know I was aware but I wasn’t aware to that extent and it was pretty exciting to just see the variety especially at this specific record label the variety of of music that was being put out and and how exciting it was awesome so from there so what how to tell us the story of how you evolved from the doing stuff mostly in the music and more and more General entertainment business into the adult industry which I see you have a lot of accolades from so I I mean I work my way up in the record industry from 93 to 99 I I was took a couple internships than an assistant job than a West Coast tour tour publicist West Coast Regional tour publicist job and then I saw what Napster was doing and I realized you know as a as a low man on the totem pole in the satellite office for record label I better figure something out and literally fell in my lap where two people one of which had this specific that had this position and and the other was the brother of the owner of the company hit me up and said hey you know you should interview for this job that’s going to open up to be the head of PR and marketing for a company called Vivid which I was obviously very familiar with as a young male and so the money was a lot more and the opportunity was there and it was just one of those things I was 23 and I wasn’t going to say no I couldn’t pass it up so I became the head of PR and marketing for Vivid Entertainment in the spring of 99 while you were busy absorbing all of this until from the corporate world and very established Enterprises and then you’re building essentially what will become your your own personal company and brand can you tell us about some of the some of the lessons you learned some of the highlights of of your journey along that way if kind of building your own becoming an entrepreneur as opposed to an employee working for Stephen her she had a very hands-off approach you know he wanted me to practice the way I had learned doing publicity at the record labels and bring that same approach to the adult film stars that were under contract with this company and to the company itself so I really had this sort of open book of you no opportunities and and and really just publicizing a a massive brand his thing was don’t spend any money which you know you laugh at but it was pretty when you when you eliminate budgets and you have to be creative that’s that made you have to work relationships in and put ideas out there and look for opportunities that I think in this day and age we wouldn’t even think twice about it but at the time we’re pretty groundbreaking you know so you know what that in mind it just became abaa I learned so much from that that when I went on my own I took sort of his entrepreneurship of run Dino of starting and running a massive adult entertainment company with what I learned is being a publicist and I’m just sort of found my way I had some incredible mentors the forest publicist go ahead incredible mentors who you know I went to when I started my company said how to what am I doing how do I do this you know and they were so giving and and so just easy you know so open Armon and I’m just taught me so much in a really short. Of time to where I was just off and running and getting clients and doing what I’ve been doing what I could I mean for me getting up every day and doing my job isn’t necessarily hard and I think I’m fortunate that I have that s Ellison and work ethic that I know is very challenging for many people but you know I just learned quickly I could get a lot of clients and and synergize and and do a lot for them and and just sort of Broad and from there awesome yeah I’m having flashbacks to reading a book called guerrilla marketing back when I was doing start up stuff and and it really did get a budget mattered so you had to teach you had to be creative and you had to think out-of-the-box so I can I can resonate with that and I remember one of a CEO for a company I work for has said you know the difference if there’s a difference between marketing and PR and marketing is what you say about yourself in PR is what other people say about you and you really really want to have that that perspective that that’s where the third person perspective in your printing and copying in to have it buffering so that the artists and the company’s don’t aren’t doing all of that he’s some kind of damage control I guess you could say and sometimes they just that stuff that Shameless self-promotion that people people can see through it on the on the receiving end and then on the giving end you’d rather not be tooting your own horn so much so it’s a really vital function that you play in the in the ecosystem of have any kind of business and I love to hear about just soap for people who aren’t that well versed in what a publicist does it would appear our company does tell us about the sort of day today and I’m kind of break it down for people who might not know famous for a living right you know the longer sort of breakdown of that is you know celebrities Brands companies hire a publicist to get there messaging in there and what they have to sell out there to the media which is then you know red watched listen to buy hopefully millions and increases sales increases exposure and increases the the growth of of whatever the brand or the company or the person is so it’s an aspect of marketing but it’s solely deals with sort of the public Persona and then obviously the media which radio TV print and online are the four basics of that and obviously they in this day and age you know what you know podcast would kind of be filed under radio but it’s also online it’s audio but there’s there can be a video component that can be a a written component so you have a lot of Lines Blurred when it comes to the media nowadays and I just think for me it’s important for my clients in this day and age there’s so much opportunity there so many ways to get your message out there and you know me and you know my team and and myself we look to find those opportunities finals relationships and and do everything we can for clients to to accomplish the goals that they have female except for us how’s your job gotten more difficult at all or more challenging in the age of social media where you have the potential for celebrities to put their foot in their mouth to and create these Mega backlashes online that you kind of do have to do some some damage control on that do you have any thoughts what the the social media landscape has done for your industry herself you know social media gives you a way to do a more immediate Outreach but sometimes you have to be careful clients have to be careful what they say out there you know what I work more left-of-center stuff where you know I’m not working conservative projects that you know they have to be really careful what they say but certainly at I work with clients that you know we talked about messaging and we talked about what they put out there and make sure we’re on the right we’re on the right track and we’re in agreement and on the right path but I think social media you know I think it’s it’s positive it’s certainly a life-changing things it certainly has changed the landscape of society and and whatnot on a larger scale but you’re not the end of the day we all are just fascinated by other people and they do so it just open doors opens doors in that respect what do you know actually makes me think about how it made some sense you talking about Dimension to have the image of Tower Records on Sunset and I’m just the decline of the record industry and all of the digitization of all kinds of media and how that took a big chunk out of profits for a lot of folks in an industry but when I based on what you were just say no actually realized you might think that the same thing would happen to PR once people could become demigod celebrities on social media by themselves but the reality is they probably need to hire a publicist more than ever because you need that filter right you need that you need someone to advise you on on the strategies of how you express yourself because it’s so easy to just fire something off that just Neo take sweat they say it could take 5 years to build a career in 5 seconds to destroy rights and all I would add to it is you know you need you need someone in my position when you have something that is so public and you need someone that can help you because a lot of times there is a lot of Crisis and a lot of people don’t know what to do and we’ve certainly witnessed over the years when when things go wrong or how you know when things are handled poorly and you know we live at a time where the media is constantly attacked so they’re going to attack that so you want to be on the right side of things and you want you know if you want to handle your media aspect as professionals possible and it’s there are challenges you know I’m not a brain surgeon this isn’t brain surgery by any any respect but it’s an important part of the marketing and sales aspect and the overall brand awareness of who you are and what you’re trying to accomplish yeah I think that was a good real basic intro and overview and just kind of hammers hammers in that this part of the ecosystem of success as a creative artist is not is not going away in or should it and so it was it is a breath of fresh air and I think about it a lot I think about a lot how how to moderate myself and there’s a lot of fear and and hesitation in this climate of you know you can really you can really put your foot in your mouth so I I I think it says probably at yeah it’s it’s been on my mind you know this whole your sector of industry and where it’s at so this is timely for me until I guess I would say to be somewhat selfish for a moment here with the last few minutes I would say that I guess bringing this back to what my my unique value proposition is to the world as my representing myself and my brain really it is I guess it is kind of element in a way I’m saying sexuality and pornography and all forms of of music and art they can all actually be very healing and very therapeutic and there’s almost a bias against that because people sometimes in some sense people want to just have really either extremely kind of edgy entertainment that just gets them off sexually or titillates them or sort of just appeals to that Hollywood sense of just completely not necessarily that intentional or that healing or that spiritual and so there’s kind of a bias against what I’m offering which could be seen his kind of all you’re you’re just a goody-two-shoes you’re kind of a mama’s boy you want people to be meditating and doing yoga and actually it might my sort of reply to that that biases that actually know what what some of the practices that are done in shamanic Sexual Healing Sarah on your work are actually equally if not more extreme and in and actually riveting and and put you on the edge of your seat as is anything that would be considered danzo or Triple X Ino Xtreme Hardcore and it really is Hardcore to be doing some of the more spiritual aspects of sexuality so when I I put out a press release I don’t know if that was the one that you saw or if that was a wet what the time frame was around that but I would just say to you do you think there is a niche for what would I would call shamanic pornography or porn that intense did not only educate but also to promote healing and healing from trauma and and what not yours if not longer you know when I first got in the industry as far as adult entertainment goes is very one-dimensional especially the media coverage and it was all about getting eyeballs because you could use the word pornography in a way that you know people be like oh what what it what are they going to talk about and then then then there was a change in the change happened when media like Vice came along and media like BuzzFeed and and other media that said to a certain extent and we’re not going to just treat this as one-dimensional because it isn’t a one-dimensional discussion it is in a one-dimensional product you know as as the adult industry expanded I found it interesting that the media expanded in their coverage and you have certainly the negatives does the word in general is certainly looked at in a negative way and I rarely use it I say it because of that is once you say that word and it’s you know maybe one day it’ll be changed or looked at not as this glaring sing but as a form of entertainment form of Education a form of you know healing as as you as you work on but the media look to do more coverage and be more multi-dimensional and to what you’re trying to accomplish and what you’re doing what you’re doing and what you’re trying to accomplish to my point is you can find media that’s not easy but you can find people you can find writers you can find me there you can find public entities you can find people that will want to discover what you are doing and will want to make others aware and will want to build the foundation and build a fanbase in and build a unit around it so which is not the issue these days the issues speed of time and the issue is just sort of the you know overwhelming amount of media that we deal with everyday especially in our current political climate where we’re being overdosed with one piece of toxic news after another and end toxic not men the political fashion just met met you know we’re bombarded with different types of briefs and stories and just aspects of life that can that are just so fast and furious and you’re trying to fit in there you know you’re almost trying to swim upstream and place you know place your story on a rock while well water keeps hitting in the face so I I I constantly am taking on opportunities and clients and different types of niches and different types of products and different types of stories because I know who’s to say that I know what a media person will want to write about or not I don’t what I do is I give them the opportunity and I find out hey is this is this interesting do you want to do this do you want to cover this and it’s yes or no or mid might be a maybe or they’re on the fence or they’ll think about it and we did we discuss it and see what happens so it’s just a the media is a constant River at its its 24/7 its domestic and international you know stories can break anywhere in the world and then just travel the speed of light and around the globe and become as you know become viral so it’s just a it’s just the the effort and the Mine Song of people in your position as to am I ready to take this Challenge on I’ve something Niche I’ve something unique but I think it’s important and and how do I get it out there and and what you know how many people can I turn on to what I have to build from from where I’m at well those are profound words of wisdom and I’ve got chills because I know that at some point I have I’ve got two to cross that and make that leap of faith sand and be willing to be criticized and be willing to be sued and be willing to be all kinds of things and having that team and I feel like the podcast has been a tool to to kind of build that team and to know if there is a you know what keeps me up at night is what happens if there is an influx of capital what if there is a viral content piece that get 50 goes out and it’s not that you become rich and famous overnight at you is that you become suddenly under the microscope and you need to know about compliance with a lot of things and so that that’s my Virgo mind getting getting very sort of The Fearless aspect where I try not to overthink even though it’s impossible but I just I just try and push you know you just you know I I’ve constantly at a career of why not you know why not internet a record label why not internet another one why not drop out of school you know cuz it was just wasting time and money you know and then why not become an assistant why not become a tour publicist why not go to an adult entertainment company Why not start your own PR Company why not work with Gene Simmons you know it’s you know if you can answer why not then there’s no reason you know and you know we always I’m a Star Wars junkie and I think you might be in the same generation or not but we all sort of live by the the words until the age of of Yoda and so you try not you do or you don’t you do not but you just don’t try to go for it and you know there’s certainly you you think things out and they’re processing is calculated risk and what not but I’ve always another mindset where if you if you’re if you’re thinking too much about it then it’s just time wasted you know you’re not pushing forward and what you’re trying to accomplish but once you get past that you know and and you’re not going to know if I sitting around thinking you’ll never know if it takes off or not you just won’t it is the action and it is the risk that you have to eunos put out there and find out if you have something or not and you know I definitely I’ve had all kinds of clients I really have and I’ve had successes clients it succeeded sold our company and made lots of money and I have clients that failed you know but it just nothing worked and Company disbanded and I’ve got you know hundreds of files of clients over 19 years and but they all they all went for it you know wherever they are you know there’s somewhere you know that they took a risk and even when I produced a reality show you know what they say it was a risk I was a two-year process to even get to production but once you know once we decide we’re going to do it my partners and I at the time of that production company we just put her head down and we weren’t going to give up and we got the parties involved then it did well could have done better but it did well exist in there broke a lot of ground but it’s definitely important you know there’s just that dividing line of doing something and in what it is that hold you back from from going for it yeah I hear you there is just kind of wrap up here to respect your time and then I will just say that again More Chills and more of just that that cause mcnab’s you know there was there is one Flagship I guess I would say it was for me was like the pilot episode of the series that I’m doing now it’s called sexorcism the tantric Opera twitch wow Google Keyword that I want to fully on because a lot of without weather so I can get is an album is a band that did an album called sexorcism there’s there’s a kind of I don’t know if it’s play with the idea but but what I’m bringing to it is it is definitely from a pure-hearted place of sincere documentarian work and so hopefully that’s I think what’s going to be what I would put money into an invest in to try to get some some media coverage on and I’ve been a little bit shy about it now for a couple of years just wanting to not be the one to push that in people’s faces but that’s exactly the layer of buffer that I need of someone to say hey look take it or leave it this is what this guy’s doing here it is and if I can have that someone like you help me with that then I think it’ll be it’ll be a dream come true so we will we will talk offline about what your thoughts are for the trajectory of a project like that but I would love to discuss obviously well and I look forward to having that discussion and obviously I appreciate being on your podcast in and you know getting to have this kind of discussion I think I ain’t got to a certain extent I think people you’re right don’t really understand publicity and public relations and media relations and you know marketing to a full extent but I think it’s you know having the conversation and getting the opportunity to talk about it even one person goes wow that’s interesting I want to I want to know what that career is you know something I’m always interested in doing it you know making people aware of the career and path I chose the life I chose and you know going from there well I’m sure there’s a lot of people who would say as they received the rewards that they couldn’t have done it without you and so hopefully I will be able to join those ranks sooner rather than later and again and again thank you for reaching out to me as very synchronistic yeah let’s let’s be in touch do you want to tell people where to find where to find your work and just yeah side BSG pr.com and my Twitter and my Instagram RBS GPR and it’s financials at when I made the company name it was like well we’ll just Brian Scott gross of my name and BSG are my initials and public relations and it was just a simple as that so I guess I was another thing I learned of like trying to keep you know keep it linear and you’re hiring me and so that’s where a Vsepr came from awesome alright will Brian thank you again so much that I had a great time and can’t wait to get to know you better and move on from here so thank you so much again and have a great afternoon thank you you as well look forward to catching up with you again real soon all right take care of podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email bad at Tantra Punk. 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How the Plantrika Dr. Yalila Espinoza is Healing the Soul of Crypto TPP192

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Yalila PicIn this episode I’m joined again by Dr. Yalila Espinoza for an exploration of her medicine journeys into the heart of the cryptocurrency and blockchain movement.

I first hired Yalila to advise on an experimental healing ceremony design back in 2013 after discovering her great works online. Now over 5 years later, we’ve remained colleagues and friends in the shamanic space, and have done two previous podcast episodes, it turns out we’ve also been deeply immersed in crypto-psychedelia.

It was an exquisite gift to be able to have her on the show this time to talk about this aspect of our life journeys that we hadn’t yet connected on, and see the many emergent properties of mutual understanding and shared analysis.

She’s been doing some amazing work to bring sacred wisdom teachings, ceremony, ritual, and other shamanic modalities into the the heart and soul of the crypto movement. Knowing she has stepped up in this way feels like a new multi-dimensional super heroine has arisen to build bridges from the amazon jungle to silicon valley, wall street, and beyond.

Please visit her website at:
https://inner.one

About Yalila:
With this unique moment of cultural evolution, Espinoza finds herself at the center of an ecosystem where powerful business and technology influencers are asking for healing and wholeness.  While working in hospitals within a medical model and then conducting her PhD research on wellness and healing, she noticed the gap in the delivery of health services and the chasm between her own esoteric spiritual offerings and the specific needs of thought leaders. Espinoza found that her clients, while pioneering new businesses and technologies tended to suffer from burnout, depression, and disease. She realized transforming the human and machine networks of the world, like the Internet, must begin with physical, emotional, and mental transformation of the self. So in 2017, Espinoza founded InnerNet, an integrated wellness advisory offering online programs, one-on-one coaching, and retreats designed to optimize leaders’ potential to realize their missions with creativity, clarity, and compassion. 

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 192 I am being blessed today with Doctor you Lila Espinoza founder of internet and a wellness consultant and she’s been on the show a couple of times before please go to my website and look up you’ll be the Espinoza you will find some very deep it’s a very deep Rabbit Hole added to the things we’ve gotten into in the past with Shamanism and healing work and now we’re going to be talking about healing and Shamanism through technology and through blockchain and all really new and exciting developments that to have have cut the world taking the World by storm and we are Kindred Spirits in our approach to I would say the the promise of of a decentralized more mycelial type of networking architecture for governance and for autonomy in for communities in in having that deep lens of shamanic practitioner work and in Journey work we can I would say really resonating really commiserate on the need for a a bottom-up approach to solving the world’s problems in in and starting with the financial problems in the capital distribution problems startup funding problem venture capital for women Founders for people who are doing philanthropic work there’s a huge need for this and also there’s a lot of people who are outspoken psychedelic Warriors within the crypto space I know that the anarchapulco conference has a a sort of there their opportunities for for for ceremonial work that that I’ve heard about and there’s also a crypt of psychedelic conference that’s happened at least once already if I don’t know if it will win next one is being planned but I had to have some some conversations with folks around that already so I’m looking forward to catching up with you you Lila and please tell us all about what you been up to and I love to just hear that they love story of you you’re you’re recording of the blockchain tech I love hearing about how people you know get seduced and then become Believers yes thank you so much for having me and saw the listeners I look forward to connecting and whatever way is in the cosmic alignment so it’s interesting because I’ve reflected in the past week about my journey with in Shamanism psychedelics and now technology because I’m giving a talk actually later today in San Francisco and I I looked at how you know focusing on the Life Energy centers of our body and how I started off an academic world in the medical model working in hospitals really focused on health and wellness and what does that mean for humans in in this part of our Evolution and became dissatisfied and then went into you could say that the third Energy Center of power and when it is Shamanism and in terms of you know how energy is used in in healing and really the base of a believe in Shamanism is around at the power to tap into these energies to know them to work with them and be in service to our community and so the power of the light in the dark and shamans choosing which way they want to search time is it really the the key difference so I went into a long journey in Shamanism personally 3 Anjali and going down into the previant jungle and having my first three months at Journey with Ayahuasca and tobacco and it’ll in isolation very intense journey and that really well 13 years ago was the start of my connection with technology and Consciousness I realize that now reflecting back because in that dream journey and isolation I came out of that we call them deetta’s I called him so much Journeys and out of that three months you know one might expect you and I are I love myself and I found God or if you know found my purpose in life what I asked that came out of that Journey with was the importance of finding a way to bridge traditional Shamanism with contemporary technology and that for me to be in the world and actually thrive in the simplest way what I needed was my iPhone in one hand and my pipe into back one another and with those two technologies I would be able to to learn how to reconnect with the soul of technology so so then I didn’t think much of it at the time but really then it led me to the second Energy Center and all-around sexuality and sensuality I did my PhD research on that and when it’s my own Journey around that piece of of my healing that needed to happen and then was serving as a counselor and a Healer around sexuality and psychedelics which maybe cuz I was speaking at Horizons in New York on the on my research study and that’s what I met in 2013 the sum of the blockchain folks and one of them in particular who is hosting me we became good friends and he led me into the folks who actually work Hill from the co-founders of aetherium in the start-up projects that were happening in your cat at that time is pretty early 2013-2014 and I can’t I didn’t think much of think much of the technology I just didn’t have that background so I couldn’t understand it but was fascinating is through my serving in an offering psychedelic Journeys Inn in South America to these folks in the blockchain world I was actually able to see how the mechanism of this technology in ceremony so my first taste of it was actually seen it you know hallucinating or altered state and seeing the connection somehow the minds of these blockchain folks are so strong I think it generally in the tech world that it was such a was so invigorating and an exciting because that I could actually asked him to show me you know quantum physics and mathematical equation I could see it and so then okay that I went to you no more of the written information and actually learning about the code and and seeing how and if practical way they would this information was being ground within the blockchain technology and then all the incredible positives that came out of this technology could be the foundation of a whole new like paradigm shift in the way that values is exchanged so that was really exciting to me and you know this this took me a good for years to learn I’m a slow learner and one way but I also like to learn deeply so I was learning it experientially and then your written material talking to a lot of the blockchain founders of Neo various companies and then he knows Tina and action and actually you know getting some of these apps and in learning me know what they can actually do and going to a lot of conferences watching Converses and and that just got really caught up in just the excitement you know this is a space that is just draws a lot of innovative minded future thinkers and innovators and you know just a sense of camaraderie and supporting each other and I couldn’t believe how welcomed I was as coming from academics in healing they they respected me and I respected them and I was able to learn how to you no make that bridge from my world to their worlds and really getting excited about the exchange of our information and so I just was seduced by I not only they technology but the people that were drawn to it and the dedication to changing our our economic Paradigm & in the way that we set up all kinds of you know housing and you know land and food and it is just so incredible so you know here we are 5 years later and I’m still right in the mix of it and you’re really excited now about virtual reality and Ai and how that can be bridged into the ceremonial space that’s that’s my journey so far in NFL well that was so amazing and I just was having chills and I could just cinematically follow along and when you got to the point of when you said you were able to see how the technology Works in ceremony that was so deeply moving and so beautiful because it’s such a multi-dimensional phenomenon and if in it’s so multi-layered into to appreciate I think I I made this comment to a friend is all it was a very very high level developer in his face and he and I I just made a joke in a recent podcast with him I said the Bitcoin makes Bitcoin makes crop circles looks like look like a play school set you know in terms of the degree of multidimensionality that goes into it and it is it is such a I mean and Andreas Antonopoulos recently and in one of his podcast video presentations and interviews he he said that when he read the Bitcoin first year of the Bitcoin white paper but then when you actually read the code it was for him basically like a symphony and he was brought to tears when he could understand the genius of it and it’s so apt for a for psychedelic journey to be able to ask for this for this field of of wisdom and information and Math and Science and Technology and code for it to just presented itself and dance in your mind for you in that place of ceremony where anything’s possible anything can be visualized and so I just think that is so beautiful on the inside knowing that you also this is really mind-blowing for me to knowing that you have this I wasn’t aware so much so basically we had already been talking and both of us had had this sort of like part of our subconscious basically beginning to be initiated into the space but we weren’t really because it wasn’t of our direct backgrounds it wasn’t an instant sort of I guess it didn’t click instantly for me I was explain how work and I thought it was cool and I was like yeah that’s internet money for anarchists that’s awesome you know but I wasn’t an investor I wasn’t a coder and it took a while once I went through you know the second Energy Center sexuality and and it was beat the psychedelics it actually showed me the importance of myself dropping my energy down into the first root Center where you no money safety you know security that whole place at a lot of healers you know maybe feel uncomfortable in or don’t have the opportunity to be in that often that I was able to really staying in this Center and part of it was that I was getting paid in crypto you know years ago from some of my clients who are you know the pioneers and in blockchain and I didn’t understand what that meant at the time I was like okay I guess they’re very kind and helping me open up my first Bitcoin wallet etcetera and I didn’t even understand it at the time and effort to understand it because you know what that meant for me and how to do the exchanges and things like that so I started off and makes it more The Surreal level of the fit if you say mathematics and physics and seeing how matters to me is a version of God of that Godlike energy and seeing how it comes down into the code it is beautiful really need and you see it yeah I totally agree and you know that I don’t know if you how big of a Terrence McKenna fan you are thinking of becoming more of a Dennis McKenna fan over the years but something that I loved about so endearing to me about about a lot of his talks was when he talked about the feminine Spirit of internet technology and how excited he was that we would be able to eventually use things like VR to give people immersive training or sort of it be able to create a visual language like the Ayahuasca experience where we could start to really understand each other better through through a universal language that is symbolic but also based on objects and colors in math and it to me this is such a fulfillment of that feminine Force coming through a lot of people who are you know he would always say that you go to a Silicon Valley startup office and it’s all these microdosing you know acid heads with hair down to their ass and I’d like to hear I know there was a time when you were when you were when you were starting to talk about Silicon Valley and bringing the medicine the same to you go and bring the medicine to those who are really reshaping reality from that level of of power of Technology do you want to just talk more about maybe without disclosing anything confidential of course just some of the some of the before and afters you’ve had the makeovers that you’ve had with some of the tech Geeks and how they’ve how they’ve been able to be massaged by that the medicine Spirits have become to Adorn one of them did gently say to me if they feel it’s not a lie to myself that is that a techie kid learning to love that part in myself and and and also honoring that you know every person is different in their enemies that divers field and that there are some common patterns that I have seen and the fact that I was given the directions psychedelics to serve a particular Community around the you know very influential and Powerful leaders in the text field that I’ve been able to track and and see how they actually lead differently in and really the the number one thing is the realization that the transformation is starts with the inner transformational journey and so even having the giving themselves that time you know few days it’s you sink into a different space in their mind right so it’s not like I have a container and say okay everyone thinking about your project Source. You know you know this go back to your family history and I want you to cry or something not at all what I was seeing is that the synthesis the stamina in the dedication in the Brilliance of these of these folks and that it really good-hearted people and that they were passionate about what they were doing and giving their mind that’s almost like the ceremonial space giving their mind a space to allow other information that may not be in their Consciousness you know at the time she come through and that’s where you hear about folks you know even the microdosing folks if they go to Peru and sit with Anna Ayahuasca Circle and I you know ask a question of it a problem that they’ve had you know mathematical equation or some something on their project they can’t quite figure out and that giving up space to have the different kind of intelligence guide them in in discovering a piece of the puzzle and so I find that you know when in general folks being very compassionate and curious and how these intelligence come together the other thing is in terms of their leadership is that once they are hard intelligence because that’s really a lot of the psychedelics the sacred psychedelics are helping us to tap into that heart energy into once they are in love energy seeing that the influence that makes and how they engage with their team member so you know more of a knowledgement that is it you know they’re all together in this project and higher level and it really honoring people for where they’re at in the heart of leadership is is learning how to inspire people to grow within the company within their teams within the project until having more patients and you know seeing the bigger picture so it’s not all about profit and yes of course I’m surprised and seeing that if if there’s a dedication to the why of their company and of the people that are there then that why and the purpose of the collective purpose actually creating more success and inflow with within the within the company so that’s one pattern also that I’ve seen Etsy the other that the third one is is around these texts Psychonauts of the learning how to bridge technology and spirituality which is always been one of my big passions and I didn’t really know how it so they’ve taught me a lot and in how this connection can unveil itself and in many ways and then coming from their religious background or spiritual background and then how they think of of math and in quantum physics in relation to a fascist like it blows my mind you know when they’re talking to me about this cell this Ray this field of the interplay between the Divine and the and form and structure and yeah I didn’t mean to cut you out there to say I wanted to make that mention so please continue the inner transformation and their their passion and purpose and then the second with the love more love and compassion for all the teams and and then that the more philosophical connection here that those those really stand out for me folks that were with me five years ago are still with me so I actually am able to track you know connect with the Divine or connect with the love Center I mean it cuz it’s not that simple everyone is sort of you’re learning a different piece and and so really what I love to do is trade space that people can share these pieces with each other and in how that actually informs that transition for their next step you know when whatever fits a personal life or professional life but it is still fascinating to me and I’m so very you know intimately woven in with with the baseballs beautiful well knowing now even more haven’t you said all of this which is so beautiful and invigorating and exciting and I just I’m so I’m so glad we’re just In This Moment having this conversation because it has been I feel like I’m it’s been extremely painful and in in triggering for me to to look at the shadow of what’s happening in this in this space which is you know I’m going to ask you to bear with me for a minute while I kind of organize my thoughts on how to how to bring this Dimension to the conversation in a in a good way I’m going to Omit using that the names of any individuals that I will not going to call anybody out or or put any putting it in the spotlight to anyone but but it’s it’s what would what I can see if we step back from from a more shamanic perspective is that there is a in absolute crisis of hyper toxic masculine Behavior that’s creating these extremely almost mythical an archetypal Wars of the Gods and end DIYs always think it’s a play on words to think about how Davis and Davies in in the in and they can talk about the devil’s right so there is it’s almost like The Vedic battles in the sky to me these genius mathematicians cryptographers programmers and them their armies of now the Speculator there’s all these high frequency trading robot armies that are trolling the warring factions and so it’s kind of like if you were to open The Vedas and you see them describing these battles of cities in Disguise and all of his alien foreign hyper advanced technology and the sort of drama playing out and the people on Earth are watching this drama and just trying to trying to create some record of it and most of it is just completely unintelligible to them cuz it’s so far out and so Advanced and almost seems like there’s just this war of the AstroWorld coming down and and duking it right above Earth dropping debris from that that Astro Battlefield and things just like falling on people’s heads and then people just scratching their heads trying to make sense of it so you have the bestest what’s coming to my mind when I think about these these programmers and their projects and their their Venture funding and all of these different puppeteers of technology in this battle between open source and closed source and regulated and unregulated in public and private blockchain Jaden and if it would it would it all is sort of sort of this rhyme of history is just these patriarchal warlord and we would calm just really do she really kind of integrated uninvolved masculine guys who are who are gorgeous and I’m just they’re just getting more and more narcissistic and sociopathic and they’re tweeting and and the technology of social media creates this really kind of Twisted Echo chamber and when I when I bring this up sometimes people will say of you know you’re trying to use psychedelics in ceremony and Shamanism as a Panacea and you know it’s not a magic pill and you know but I just keep saying like I think I need to hear these men do that family work and be brought into a ceremony where do certainly the ones that are that are just creating like threatening to just nuclear meltdown of all the cryptos in the opposing camps and just using their stashes of Mega you know stashes of of Bitcoin to flood the market and to manipulate as tactical that what they call the hash worse but that just happened in probably the hash words just knocked bitcoin price and 1/2 they’re just waving around these lightsabers and in in digging into the charts and and I one waiting for the sort of like trumpeting angels to come in and bring in the Davies you know the akalis in a Durga is going to come in and start grabbing these These are is Zeno by the by the Scruff of their neck and in and actually intervene so I’m wondering I know that’s a lot but anybody who is his familiar with yoga Tantra me all the scriptures that the talk about these epic battles or even from the Western perspective that the mythical Gods fighting you know this is not new and what seems to be the promise of the Shakti movement of Tantra and the Psychedelic feminist movements coming out of their group that you’re involved with there’s got to be some maternal wisdom brought to these boys and their toys you know so that she take it from there I totally resonate with this the Epic War analogy because it is real is that I’ve been to blockchain conferences and meetups in cities all over the states and and you’re up and and what really carries me through and I feel so fortunate somehow I have this eternal optimism and I certainly see the shadow I see the darkness 10 gauge with it and I’m still very optimistic and I think it’s really in my own connection with the sacred psychedelics in that they’re continually I feel like they got my back and they’re continually raising me up and and encouraging me and motivating me a stay steady with in the turmoil and I feel like for a lot of us and probably folks listening that this is part of our role is to learn how and these These are at War like an energy battle that we are centered and we emanate that that love and not always loving everyone per se you know that’s around us and in this these toys with our boys with toys and I do feel I can honestly say neutral when I meet them and I and I just said luck and I just what I’m doing is I’m like an anthropologist and I’m watching am seeing how they’re engaging with the but that the people around them and I start where people are at right so when I’m speaking to some of these folk is not like I think he would be good for you to do family systems work and come to this you know come to Peru like I would never say that I start or people are at I’m like what motivates you right now and you know once the trust his is built by and continually is is building and there’s a softening that happened so you know for me in 5 years in and I I do believe that there is a beautiful sense of respect for each other and trust this building and I’m watching where this energy takes us play so I what I can get really involves is the patience and perseverance and faith and that this is you know way bigger than me I’m being in service and being directed by these other intelligences along with my own you don’t be Discerning and where to actually Channel my energy and then I’m patient and it’s been tough you know I really wanted to get into some of these blockchain meetings and and I have actually is sometimes I’m like okay let’s talk about the let’s talk about how you know the technology is actually had of our human consciousness level as well as our laws right so you know how can we catch those pieces up to the level that technology to actually maximize the benefit of it and then you know how can we actually expire is that Founders and CEOs and and developers to to build that projects that are noble that have elevated intentions that that is a sense of good for all I do feel it’s possible yeah I totally agree I Kevin this is the most thrilling and exciting development in my entire life for sure if not in the history of the battle of Good and Evil on Earth that’s I really feel like it and you can see it it brings out the best and can sometimes bring out the worst but but really even those who would be considered more more super villains now in the space the lot of them started out as Jedis training humbly with Yoda it you know so they all have that imprint of that desire to do good eyebrows really very few people who I think are are fundamentally irredeemable I mean I don’t know if I feel better that way about anybody in the darker the shadow is the more potential there is to bring that medicine from those places so I agree with you and then I fly it’s I guess it’s easy for me to say or easier for me to say in some senses because I am a white mostly cis-male and so I don’t experience some of the author of out of the exclusion and in sometimes bigotry but at least at least Prejudice and you know it was through the women in crypto track at the crypto invest Summit in La last year that I discovered things like there’s only four percent of female CEOs in the US at least and then only 2% of venture funding goes to women Founders and that studies have proven that female executives are more profitable so whether you’re a feminist or not you’re leaving money on the table if you’re in any kind of a position of power in the business world in the investment world to not be creating more balance in in that in that space so I guess I’d like to ask psychedelic feminism Financial feminism women in crypto women in blockchain do you find yourself a building strong Sisterhood networks in circles amidst all of the other boys with toys as he said to align myself with very brilliant women in the field and be there and so we’re learning with each other and what’s just so inspiring is that some of these clients who are in their late 20s early 30s forging ahead and they sell I don’t know how they do it but they just have this determination and and also feminine ways of going through these hurdles in their in their workplace and them in the company’s and let me know some of them Founders and dealing with the hiring of a lot of that males and and and how that that plays out in the power struggles and they just they have such Grace and I just witness them you know managing it all in a way that’s it really inspiring and stay and then when they’re also going through these psychedelic Journeys I see that they just become more and somebody’s determined and focused and incompetent and and you know they’re also patients over time I see them gain their respective of their colleagues and you take a couple years of storming and and then there’s this is kind of settling that happens and so I I am extremely inspired by the women in blockchain in particular and just wants to be in service to them in any way I can so that they can continue to forge ahead also well on that note I would say we should definitely spend the rest of this our here just having you tell us all about more in detail what it is that you provide and what you’re offering and what your projects are now we got I think this was a good sort of philosophical overview and Andre connection for you and me to to get to get caught up in the space but I really would like to hear more and maybe we can also I guess we can go for as long as you are available at today and in this timeframe to talk about your projects and introduce what you’re doing with your hair with your new your new Ventures and and really make this more of a of a promotional pitch for the remainder promotional pitch for me that’s it really exciting right now is I would love to connect with folks who are working in the VR AI space and are interested in psychedelics not only interested but wanting to create platforms where people can engage in these different fields at virtually and so I know it’s happening I am in San Francisco right now I’m going to meet some some folks in the field tonight and for anyone who’s listening that I would just appreciate a shout out and I’m please connect with me that info info a 10.1 i n n e r o n e because I I really interested in collaborating I would love to work on a team whether it’s already clean a project that’s happening right now or someone wants start one I just have so many ideas about how this could coming to that material in the world and I know a lot of folks in the you know blockchain developers as well as healing practitioners and really wanting to be a bridge between these worlds in and connect folks who can contribute to a project like this so that’s my first pitch in terms of concrete offerings right now I think my two favorite people in the world now that had I met through the blockchain space are this Penelope and America they are the Cyber code Twins and their East LA born and raised Latina women in Tech who have taken the World by storm they’ve got TED Talks they have been winning hackathons and they have I think one of the things they developed together with second virtual reality drug and alcohol rehabilitation immersive experience for people who can’t afford to go to like Celebrity Rehab and that’s one application I don’t know what their personal interest is necessarily in psychedelic Shamanism however they seem to be very open-minded and they are 8 leaving One Like a White House award or something like that they’re just absolutely storming the charts of the women in crypto and I’ll send you a link to one of their TED talks but yeah I know that there it would probably be really good allies in that and not space I just wanted to mention them and then yeah go on please continue practical way the internet is offering three different project and the 1st is out there called dinner one Retreats and so these are live 225 day Retreats held in beautiful places for folks to get back to their vital bodies and be rejuvenated by nature to these are wellness retreats and you know cluding Mayo massage and Sound by sand yoga and meditation life coaching and team-building exercises and then some of the in South America do include Ayahuasca and someone Mexico include psilocybin so those are those Retreats and then there is an online program it’s called zero to one building blocks to Wellness and it is I was here I consider it more of like a integration platform for people so that they can continue harvesting the the fruit of what comes out of these lab Retreats or vice a versa can be a good preparation for Allegra tree and it’s focusing on daily Wellness practices and it’s interesting after how many years in the Psychedelic world I’ve actually gone back to the basics and I feel that you know it’s wonderful to be in a journey and see all kinds of amazing things and we still are in bodies in this lifetime in this earth and that I’m going back to you what we are drinking and eating our sleeping near so many books speakers that focus on this and a night it’s because it’s so essential it’s in so really the program going back to the basics and I just reminding us to be but I guess being mindful of our daily practices so that’s the 0 to 1 and then there’s another piece that is it’s actually new and it’s it’s pretty exciting I’m working with a group in Europe and it’s called Legacy Ventures and we’re going to be offering Retreats that actually is facilitated by many different facilitators and shamans from around the world and and so I’m just one of them one of many and offering Retreats on the difference element so have a 1 focus on fire and having fire ritual what does that mean in our lives and in her a lot of these folks are in our Business Leaders CEOs and and then another Retreat focus on the water and the Earth in the air and then that sacred Center so that’s just starting this year and it’s it’s really exciting for me to be cooperative with other leaders and also I just opening up to the European folk sand and feeling so what is that like and what are they wanting these days and then see the parallels in the differences between the United States and Canada and Mexico so that. In a nutshell is what I’m up to you for this year that is so amazing what we do a push-up real needs everything you’re doing now more than ever and I’m just so thrilled I feel like I’m reading a comic book or something in your just the new Marvel comic book superhero in this of swords and in just adding these new new levels of armor and magic and Empower I can just see I see the the sort of thing I get a better sense of the multi-dimensional warrior Goddess that you have just become an indigenous is so exciting to me to tell me more folks who I don’t have to run into a brick wall trying to explain the the seriousness the timeliness the importance the relevance the you know it’s really really demoralizing and sometimes heartbreaking for me when I get stonewalled it’s not about it’s not about losing out on the opportunity 4000 X Games it’s about losing out on the under this will be some I see it is one of the most rare opportunities in the history of political discourse certainly political economic discourse where the radical libertarian and some people would like to use the word left anymore but definitely from the the libertarian to the anarchist perspective this is one of the first time ever that anything from these camps actually became not just mainstream but was so Superior that it was subversive as a side effect of its superiority to the to the to the disorder let me know Malcolm and Malcolm X I believe said something like if you want it over to the system you have to create a better one system but make the old system obsolete is really what it comes down to so I love it when people talk about the Legacy banking system and the Legacy voting system and it’s like we’re already in this Ann turkel crypto Anarchist future where people from Wall Street are defecting enjoying the Occupy Wall Street movement and bringing their bags of capital with them and you know I love people like I will say the name of Joe Lubin I think he is one of my most beloved and endear real shining examples of coming from a feminine place of problem solving and team building in and you see how his Vibe is really impenetrable to all of the pickings and and browbeating is of the progressive alt masc so cheers to him and into the others and Andria’s and other people who keep out of the drama so yeah before I go too far off into the weeds I want to thank you so much again in to see if you would like to share your your website links and maybe if you would if you have time to just give us a bit of a closing meditation that that brings us all together those who were cryptophobia can those who are crypto douchiest and everything in between let’s let’s all make space for each other around this fire. One i n n e r o n e and email is info at in and either myself or my members will respond as soon as we can definitely look forward to connecting with some of you listening now I know that there’s Brilliance all around us and it’s a matter of coming together and matching are our gifts together okay so in terms of thinking of our energies I invite everyone to receive a deep breath then I’ll land here together and reflecting on all this information that has been shared and inviting you to feel in your body where does this information land for you how are you feeling is there an a butterfly’s is your mind buzzing butterflies in the belly butterflies in the heart what’s with activated for you and breathing in is energy and I asked if you’re willing to commit 21 action step spell connecting with you know how you’re feeling right now are you feeling at your best at your most joyful place in this moment in this conversation and then are you committed to an action step that will actually Manifest this feeling and you are unique Vision in the world is taking a minute be very simple drinking more water and it could be very big like asking the sacred psychedelic that you next connect with is it for you anything in between what’s one action step you’re willing to commit to you within the next seven days that will feed nurture your essential contribution in this world then yourself and externally with in the world mache beautiful Williston I just want to say Dad don’t be a stranger please please keep me posted and in the anything that’s coming up any new developments that you want to share even if it’s just a little Clipper Sound by three segments you always feel always free to a to send me anything or to Anna to take to come back on the show I think you were definitely in good company with the other folks who have to drive me on this journey if I explain this material and yeah it’s it’s it’s a real joy to to have met and you know I’m just thinking back into the feeling back into the origin story of how you and I connected in the place that I was in in the what would I resonated with you and the sort of healing journey in the wounded healer journey and now and it’s like look at us now you know we have survived and we’re driving and that’s great so I acted with and also the listeners and one thing anyone who’s still listening if you’ve made it this far. I guess you were the ones that were meant to share this because I forgot to say that one of the newer Evolutions in terms of offerings for those that are in sit-in microdosing sacred psychedelics or plants and trees in your backyard and I also please reach out to me because there is a a new wave of a Soma Journey ask I’m going to be available for folks in Indy pinning into the microdosing practice that’s become so popular these days so that’s awesome alright well you’ll either thank you so much again this is a beautiful experience as usual and I look forward to the next time and you have a wonderful talk tonight and wonderful rest of your weekend and we’ll be in touch, and click on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological and play single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or emo band at contrabands. 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Sexorcism the Tantric Opera Episode 11 “Psychedelic Goddess Worship”

 

Ancestral Foods as Culinary Shamanism with Shonagh Home TPP188

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In this episode I’m joined again by one of my most respected psychedelic shamanic heroines, Shonagh Home.  We discuss the culinary shamanism of ancestral foods and how she has helped herself, her family, me, and many others kick the habits of toxic addictive and misguided disease causing diets. She shares about her upbringing and how her health and fitness conscious youth years created a strong foundation for her to speak from experience.

She provides an amazing overview of the groundbreaking work of some of the most influential researches that have helped myth bust the commercialized, factory farmed diet and restore the legacy of nutrient dense diets.

To balance the disturbing and disgusting harsh truths about the poisons we’re ingesting and how they’re destroying our bodies, our families, communities, and the planet, we the explore the positive hopeful and empowering merits of:  eating animal organs beyond just the meat, raw dairy as wholesome comfort food replacements, farmers markets, biodynamic and permaculture farming, holistic dietary strategies for behavior moderation to end the drugging of school kids, medicinal culinary herbs, resources and recipes for new parents, do-it-yourself fermentation, bitters, her one-on-one nutritional therapy retreats, her forthcoming women’s school, and much more!

Please visit her website at: https://www.shonaghhome.com

About Shonagh:
Shonagh Home is a shamanic therapist, teacher, writer and poet. Her specialized private sessions and retreats are probing and revelatory, assisting clients to break chronic, self-defeating patterns, and move into empowered personal sovereignty. Shonagh is an international public speaker on the subject of visionary shamanic-spirit medicine, a voice for stewardship of the honeybees, and a teacher on the subject of Traditional Foods. She is author of the books, ‘Ix Chel Wisdom: 7 Teachings from the Mayan Sacred Feminine,’ ‘Love and Spirit Medicine,’ ‘Poetic Whispers from the Green Realms,’ and ‘Honeybee Wisdom: A Modern Melissa Speaks.’

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Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 188 than being joined Again by the lovely Shawna home and we are going to kind of pick up from where we left off in the last episode getting deeper into the holistic Arts and Sciences so that the Culinary Arts events estriol foods and really understand the context there were in now with the sad standard American diet and all of the health problems that are just cascading and what fundamentals I really should be learning about exploring for this is really geared towards new parents who are in the midst of all of the duties that they now have trying to read labels and know what’s what as far as what to avoid so this I hope can be a really good primer that’s going to be pretty Timeless because we’re talking about human biology hasn’t changed in hundreds of thousands of years that the gut Flora the you know what are tongue is used to navigating in the environment to find what we needed or so much intelligence that we are being really abused and and and really manipulated and in having our senses turn against us so plenty to to get into in a moment I just want to also thank you so much sauna for having gifted me access to your Visionary mushroom practicum course and I literally just as of about an hour or so ago I have finished the the final module and binged on it and so I’m just filled with all of that great wisdom and care that you put into it and I want to say there’s so much to explore with that and probably will save that for another episode but for now I’m going to definitely put a permanent banner on my website that can funnel folks from my audience to to check that out I think it’s probably one of the most important units of of learning that I have found myself experienced in that I really want anyone else in the world who who loves the mushrooms you know a millionth of as much as I do to catch up and relieve integrate that course into their their romance so with the sacred mushroom so yeah with all that said Sean if you want to just kind of get yourself a bit and bring us up to speed on what you been up to and then we can get into the main topics I am a therapist I’m in a really am a therapist for all intents and purposes and mostly these days conduct one-on-one Retreats and so and what I offer is really unique on most people would say actually hell no I have I have my client come to my home and they stay through the week with me and so they arrive on Sunday afternoon they leave Friday morning and it’s buried deep psycho-spiritual work and IT addresses the very deep layers of patterning and includes time spent out in nature includes different shamanic therapies if you will still retrieval and guided Journey that kind of thing and also the food place a big role because darn near every when it comes with dealing with some issues including anxiety and depression which can be assisted greatly through food in addition to working with someone who has a good handle through the inner deeper layers of the psyche and so that is really feel like I’m in my Dharma that has been wonderful and then I do sessions just one on one therapy sessions with people usually buy a Skype cuz everyone’s all over the place these days any of it but I do know and I should say also been I have there is a book coming out in April called psychedelic Mysteries of the feminine creativity ecstasy and healing and so that is a compilation of writings from different women in a few man but mostly women and so I was approached a couple of years ago by the editors were in London to contribute a chapter so I wrote a chapter on the reclaiming the mod that the Medicine Woman for the modern times because we had Michael Pollan who did a fabulous job with his book oh yeah your mind yeah that came out last May and now we got the ladies coming so yeah awesome I’m so glad to hear that yeah we all have a lot of catching up to do and all your great works and it’s been just absolute honor and pleasure so far to to know I think we’re on maybe the fourth or fifth episode together on this podcast and it’s just always a great ongoing journey in and now I’m having again gone through that course now I really want to say that I feel like the work you’re doing is just absolutely so precious and and really in this in this epic of life on Earth it’s really one of a kind and so I feel like this is a radically transforming a lot and and really helping to very delicately and very thoughtfully kind of thumb unravel some of the more toxic myths and even some of the top even some of the toxic Miss amongst the people who are trying to do their best to be holistic and end Progressive and forward-thinking and and it’s really young some of the subjects that are taboo talking about kind of reclaiming ancestral diet sand and seeing Beyond some of the really I would say they’re they’re like fad fad diets and maybe one less thing I’ll say before before asking you to kind of start out start us off with them you know a an exploration of where we’re at with the modern diet and ships we can be making their it’s just it’s been it’s been coming to me that no Animal product diets even the raw diet for example these when I think about what I think is the fact that there really isn’t an indigenous society that hold that has evolved in a natural environment to have these ideals and to have these limitations on what is food and whatnot food and what is ethical eating was not ethical eating and I know we’re so far most of us from from that we’re both of the food chain in a in a sustainable way and I get it why people want to almost do like a hunger strike almost it’s a protest movement when I get it and I’ve been a part of it but what I feel like is maybe you overlooked is the notion that we like to say decolonize your mind decolonize this and that but but if we if we actually applied decolonize your your kitchen and in your pantry you know then we’re going to be talking about where did these ideas what is the timeline of some of these have some of these fad diets and what what do we need to know sort of to decode and and and so yeah you you you’ve already been the Catalyst to have the deepest most the bridge to some of the ancestral diet material has been literally rebuilding and restructuring me to the DNA level since since that kind of came down to the Grapevine and so want to give you plenty of time now to just help us understand the dead stuff out of your research there and yeah let’s to have you just go on about it I will say first of all that you know I grew up in Toronto Canada and my parents new zero about you know nutritionally dense foods no one to really right because they only know knew what they were taught and that is true today as well fortunately and the dominant Narrative of course is pushed by commercial interests that are profiting greatly on our suffering and so so I have to stay though I just unnaturally preferred just the more I probably nutrient-dense foods and so even like we don’t we were raised on breakfast area which thank God I never gave to my two grown daughters and and so I would choose through the best of the worst I remember choosing Special K / Frosted Flakes I just worked out better in anyway and I loved I loved me I love Stoops enough bacon hated liver shunt like now but anyway my mom is some traditional Irish meat and potatoes kind of cook and and not to creative there and then I remember when we moved to the states and I started I was long distance running and I ran one morning past was in this little town past the shop and had a big carrot dangling out the front of the store and it turned out it was a health food store and I never been in one before and I made a mental note of that says early in the morning and then I went back there later and and just discuss peanut butter with oil on top of all this cool stuff and I was I just felt like right at home and and I remember a 16 saving my babies babies babysitting money for a juicer because it did not I mean we didn’t have veganism Ernie that at that time I just wanted to let you know juice vegetables cuz it’s very good for you and I still do it today in any case I never dieted I was always super athletic I never had a problem with weight but I just never bought the whole back then I graduated high school and 81 okay just give me my gym 50 almost 56 and so I never bought into the whole low-fat no-fat deal because I was like with no butter like hell no no way they can’t do that and I’m so grateful because now we are seeing the detrimental effect this has had on people you know any people back then having egg white omelets and just white meat on the chicken no skin like it was just such an awful way to eat and an inn really harmed people healthwise and and so I just I would say by the way I like to eat and I’ve eaten this way for years now if I just call it as close to the farm as possible and I’ll tell you I a number of years ago I did Fast and the fast lasted first me like hen J’s to be probably 13 years ago and I was just reading different books cuz I’m an autodidact and so I love to research that’s how I spend my time reading and researching and end and learning and that’s when I found out about Vic the vegan diet and I was reading this one but cannot. Will that food looks good maybe I’ll break my fast with that try that for a little bit which I did and I did the raw vegan sing for almost a year and so I can speak to it I mean I went down to dr. Gabriel cousens place and I met and I was eating all the superfoods and I was alright avocado cacao loaded with a sweetheart but now I am a Celtic Woman mostly Scottish and Irish and my people did not they were not be concerned so what happened was after maybe eight or nine months of that my body was screaming for me but at that point I was like oh no I’m and I and this is something we as humans it’s just seems to be human nature you know we can get 40 dogmatic and she identified with our belief systems and so that lasts another couple months and then I actually had signed up for a course in the Seattle area with the MTA the nutritional Therapy Association and it was like a turd 11 month course was very very in-depth with a beautiful thing was was based on the work of dr. Weston a price who was a dentist out of Cleveland in the twenties and he grew up in a farm and he was quite robust healthy guy and he noticed more and more in the 20s if they progressed more patients coming in with cavities like a lot of cavities and he noticed that their jaws were becoming more narrow so they couldn’t accommodate the teeth and he was one of these wise fellows who put two and two together and just I think this might have to do with all this new food we’re eating because of that food was shifting markedly to the foods of Commerce essentially Factory Foods sweetened condensed milk a lot more white flower a lot more white sugar and it was affecting People’s Health and so he had I think it was a nephew who weather Philly ated with National Geographic I think of the time in and he was saying listen you should study some of these healthy cultures around the world that are still intact because Anthropologist have been digging up skulls with these beautifully form Jaws perfect teeth like these people were extraordinary healthy and and were made to think by the way that the Ancients were they didn’t live past 25 and they were so unhealthy and and nothing could be further from the truth and it obviously would depend on where you were located and what was going on at the time and I will say that the Roman scholar Plutarch when he came upon the British Isles he wrote those British Islanders don’t show their age till they’re a hundred and twenty now he wasn’t making a joke he was commenting on the extraordinary help with these people and so in many parts of the world crafting a hundred was no big deal you know people were very vigorous so in any case I started this nutritional Therapy Association and and by then I was just beside myself like I really needed to break the veganism and and and I had also gone to assert conventional doctor I don’t call them traditional doctors cuz they’re not you know conventional medicine is not traditional medicine it’s not the winter conventional doctor and I got all the tests in my I think my my lipids were like way way way down my cholesterol was way down and when it whatever and I was so proud of it at the time and then the teachers were like you know you could have a stroke with numbers like that and and you need nutrition in you cuz I went out just an animated how’s your sex life not to get overly personal benefits fine and they were like really fine they’re like do you know what you need cholesterol for it if you need it for a fully functioning hormonal function including your your sex hormones like everything and and so it was there that I learned the importance of these traditional foods which had been abandoned over the course of the 20th century in favor of all of these newfangled foods which were being pushed through all of these commercials and and an advertising to our grandmas and great-grandma’s and you know so that no self-respecting woman would would bake a cake from scratch anymore you know she should get Betty Crocker cake mix and all this garbage that they were they were imposing on people and so so I started with bone broth and then I slowly started no back into having actual meat and then I’ll tell you I went through it. Where I was just craving steak remember talking my teacher and he said look have it every night because it’s not like you’re craving brownies you know you’re craving steak there’s something in that that your body is crying for other so you don’t listen to start listening to your body and this is something that few people do today is actually listen to the signs from from their body and so what dr. Weston Price did was he took 10 years in the 1930s and he went all around the world to 14 different healthy cultures and he wanted to see what they were eating and end by the way his face is starting out was he wanted to find he thought maybe vegetarianism was the way to go and and so he want with very curious to see what these people were eating and it turned out that all 14 of these cultures they all consumed some form of animal protein even if it was in Sex and they also consume a lot of animal fat in fact ten times more fat soluble vitamins have of saturated animal fat than Americans in the 1930s and so that ratio would be far higher today and so he has a dentist he was looking at their teeth because the teeth will reveal what’s going on with the rest of the bone structure within the body and for the first culture you study study was the switch in the Swiss in the lotion tell Valley of Switzerland and they lived within this mountain range and they could get in and out but that’s where they lived and by the way tuberculosis was ravaging Europe at the time including Switzerland and people would leave that that community and go into Zurich and whatnot they return back having been exposed in single person contracted TB and he had to really search before he found anything even close to what could be a cavity the children with this was an early spring they were playing Barefoot with short sleeves in icy cold streams like they were vigorously healthy and their diet consisted of raw raw cream Robert and beautiful leavened sourdough bread which meant it’s bread that had been fermented overtime so it’s very digestible of course they would have some lamb beef and then vegetables you know in the summer when they could get them in fairies and what not and they were just incredible Health in fact they had a sleep from that Valley who would compete in these big big olympic-style competitions and those guys would always win nowadays they have athlete’s carbo load but back then those athletes would load up on Raw cream and so they were just an impeccable health and not only that they were happy and then he went to the gaels on the Isle of Lewis and and that was they were seafaring and there you know their life was rough I mean and they could cook the only thing they could grow with oats and anyway those people were in vigorous health and they consumed a lot of fish and cod liver oil and oatcakes and what not and then he went to the Philippines and he went to all these other cultures these beautiful people and they took photographs and he sent samples of their food back home to the laboratory to be tested so he wrote home extraordinary book called nutrition and physical degeneration and you can see for yourself and beautiful jaw structure of these people the beautiful teeth and a happiness on their face this is something that really he was not expecting was how incredibly happy these people were and he would ask them if they had any problems with their their adolescents in and they just looked at him like he had to have it out like no they didn’t have those issues now something he noticed noticed was this was a time when Bridges and roads were being built and so people would leave their trishul communities and I would enter quote-unquote civilized civilized World eating the foods of modern civilization and then they would have children and it would be evident in the Next Generation and those children would have the job would be narrow so couldn’t accommodate the teeth and so and though what he did see also is when when certain people would then return to their communities if they had some kind of illness they were able to turn it around through adopting once again their traditional food so that’s actually very good news for us because the body is Earth is a body you know we we have a body that it’s the whole thing as a metaphor for for the Earth and our gut microbiome is like the soil of our Earth and it it needs to be teeming with really healthy bacteria so so yeah so so I really I I I so admire doctor price and and Back N D I thought maybe it was the eighties a woman named Sally Fallon discovered his work and eventually she put together the Weston A price foundation and I have Met Sally Fallon a number of times I’ve had dinner with her she is a true Elder she is a wise woman and she she put together a book called nourishing traditions and this book has its it’s a compilation of all of these traditional recipes it’s an amazing book and do you know what she could not get a publisher no publisher would touch it with you do my own little publishing firm and I’ll do it that way and she did and I got her book has sold well over a million maybe it’s a million-and-a-half coffees at this point and now of course you know they’re willing her and they want to publish your book and she was like nothing and Associates really put yourself out there to put the word out because also what traditional communities the world over paid great attention to in addition to these wonderful foods that were passed down was it was very important when a couple came together before they got pregnant that they had certain foods and then certainly when the woman was pregnant there were certain foods that she was to eat in fact I think it was in the Philippines there was a tribe and Wendy women when a woman became pregnant there were two men assigned to her and their whole job was to get and their boat and go to a certain area where they would fish for certain kind of fish and dr. I sent that back and it was it’s it’s very high in fat very very high in in in fact and end so that you know made for a very healthy developing fetus and ultimately very healthy baby and then and then of course you know they breastfed and there were important foods that were fed to the baby including cod liver oil which a lot of this stuff just you know it when we had World War II came about a lot of our newfangled Foods were developed by the military during World War II and then put out to the public afterwards and at the you know they’re just as we know Peter garbage and and then people stop giving their children cod liver oil my mom I called liver she said all cod liver oil all the way up till she went to college and and so it was easy quite common So I myself I’ll tell you like cuz I see that it’s a commercial world and essentially it’s an it’s a it’s an overlay on top of the Living World of Nature and traditions that have served Earth people for Millennia until all of a sudden they’re told note you want to have this this is better for you and you don’t want to have that and so I look too I look too tradition I look to the Ancients I and I call these Foods grandmother wisdom foods and end and one thing that price discovered was bio individuality in other words what works for my people is not going to necessarily work for someone in the Philippines you know that they consume a lot of fish and tropical fruits in the vegetable in a look at the different diet and other words and and so this is something to pay attention to so whatever your cultural heritage is I recommend taking a good hard look at go back a few generations and then see what were your people traditionally eating and chances are those foods will serve you very well will something else that people consumed every day all around the world in all various forms were ferments so Refrigeration is very new and it’s a great convenience but it’s it’s hampered our health because back then in order to preserve food you had to fermented and so of course you know you had the the krauts all manner of different fermented vegetables will be back in the day you had need which was fermented you a tale which was fermented people drank a lot of fermented Beverages and and they would spy cam with different medicinal herbs and and then okay the fermented vegetables cultured Dairy you know these people who say oh you know dairy cows are know whatever milk is for baby cows people their cultures including my own you know who kept cows they kept sheep and goats or camels were milk you know milk is very very ancient and something that I drink now and I turn all my retreat clients on cuz I think it is probably the one of the most healing foods known is raw milk kefir and that hails from the Caucasus region of Russia and the kefir grains are probiotic there a mix of probiotics and beneficial yeast no one knows how they came to be the people of the caucus regions call them a gift from Allah and they would put those in cows milk or goat’s milk and they would be in a leather bag and and and and they would you know give it a shake and and and drink that in the grain speed off the sugars in the milk and then they key for the milk so it’s like a kind of liquidity yogurt it is fantastic for you in fact yogurt itself will have five or six different bacterial strains in it great stuff homemade kefir will have 50 to 60 different bacterial strain so we’re talkin you know trillions are billions of of of of bacteria and are beneficial that is amazing for your God and the Caucasian people were drinking kefir for over twelve hundred years and they are still drinking it today so again you know I’m so stoked hearing you say this in in something else it’s just it’s hitting me right now is that all of this very almost alchemical food science and artisanship was going on far before the invention of the microscope and before the micro-biology revolution in science and so in all of your studies if you don’t mind me kind of going on a sidebar here I just would love to know what you feel like it’s a good night you know and I have any Amazon the people that iOS Cairo shamans cure and arrows will say that the plants told them which plants to put together to make this concoction and there was a who is it was a transmission of Knowledge from the forest itself to help the people and I’m wondering if you could what do you think the epistemology is of this elaborate micro black biological science way before science even invented the microscope to even know right I mean there was still so this is kind of a figure this out where did this come from was it observation of animals or was it just naturally it tasted better cuz certain things were a little busier if you left them out a while if he well it was a course they observed animals and that would tell them you know what what fruits were and in vegetables went out where poisonous what were edible and also they would watch sick animals and what did the sick animals gravitate to herbs and that kind of thing so they learned a lot from observation and and then yeah and then he just things were passed down and down and down and God knows where they originated from but but but we have to remember is he never made you think that the Ancients were so backwards you know and and in fact the ancient Celts her are portrayed as you know practically caveman and yet the Neolithic people creative these extraordinary Stone circles that that were places at like they were Master astronomers you know they and they knew how to store wet when and where the eclipse Sun would be in in relative to assert how they position with stones and in these people were they were they were brilliant they were brilliant they were fully dialed in they were fully connected to the cycles of nature you know where we are I really don’t think we have this will be a very whatever it will be but I just I don’t think we’ve necessarily come that far because we’ve sacrificed so much wisdom and look at the state the deplorable State on our planet now with the pollution and the just egregious suffering of humanity and the animal kingdom everything on so so so many levels and so you know we really things went horribly wrong I think with when the whole Scientific Revolution came about so that when that happened so many ancient wisdoms were just simply dismissed in favor of this whole new way this whole is rational mindset and and and I’m all about logic and reason don’t get me wrong cuz I don’t see enough of that playing out today but this word hyper rationalism and Andrea Lee you know this is just what do you call it it’s like they’ve just dismissed God altogether God got us whatever that is sourced Creator right and and and we have done this at our Peril and ultimately I see nature and we are nature as the brass the expression of the master architect which has a hold of god goddess for Hurst annaho and head that lives in every living thing and and nature has provided us with everything we need to grow the way we’re supposed to develop the way we’re supposed to develop you know our bone structure everything our hair our health and and you know how to be happy and any other thing to you know I’ll say real quick when Christ was noticing the narrowing of the Jaws you’ll see that a lot nowadays and no one thinks twice about oh yeah I had to get braces or my kids had to get braces and what they don’t realize is that nutritional deficiency so that the jaw itself was not able to develop properly to accommodate all those teeth which is what’s to do and the same with you no hips we see you know she’s narrowing of the hips and in women having a lot of trouble and childbirth will also I mean look at the fertility rates have gone way down and there’s a lot of factors there and you and I can talk for 5 hours on all of that but we’re going to just focus on the food right now and end and also the state of depression and anxiety it’s just a roof and so my retreat client I just recently worked with I I mean a number of people come to me and they’re dealing with anxiety and depression and and these are people who are now I would call them Progressive in that they either have just recently got off those those damn antidepressant antianxiety square or their weaning themselves off you know and I explained to them look we have to heal your gut because there’s a neural Highway between the gut brain and when it got is corrupted in all of our guts or corruption and the guy becomes corrupted the microbiome becomes corrupted through all the sugar and the antibiotics right and then of course the stress and all of that and then just a bad food and and most people are not eating any kind of fermented food you know and so there’s nothing feeding the gut microbiome so healthy gut bacteria is roughly like 80% beneficial bacteria to 20% we’ll just call it bad bacteria it right for all intents and purposes and so as soon as it gets out of balance be bad bacteria is opportunistic and so it just floods the area and it starts to wreak havoc and then interesting ly it takes the good back or the beneficial bacteria longer to kind of come back then the bad bacteria and I just think of that Axiom of alchemy as within so without I look at our world so somehow you know things got out of balance somehow and and these opportunist who are I mean I just see our entire world leader all of them as a crime syndicate you know they’ve taken over entirely you know and and and so and so and so the more people become healthy it’s going to benefit the the Consciousness is going to benefit our mind are the ability to you no feel stable and to reason and smoke with you no Solutions rather than being in this constant state of stress and fear and anxiety you know which so many people are but in any case so this person who came last week was dealing with grief from the loss of a parent the death of the parent and also you know crippling anxiety and depression and gone off those meds finally power to this person and and so I turned them on to all of this food and I turn them on to the gaps protocol Gap stands for gut and psychology syndrome and that was developed by a Russian neurosurgeon named dr. Natasha Campbell McBride and I think of her as just a Russian Shaman s she is one of my heroes and Annie Oakley runs the women’s Visionary Congress once said if you want to change the world throw a better party and I love okay dr. Natasha Campbell McBride is a perfect example that she’s throwing a better party so what happen to her if she move to the UK and one of her young son’s got vaccinated and develop autism and so she knew. Vaccine with the Catalyst but she asked the question why though do you know more and more these days babies develop autism after these vaccines the others jumped what’s really going on and she said she exhausted her profession should named we have nothing to offer these children and of course she’s right and then she started exploring the gut cuz she’s a neurosurgeon the gut-brain connection and she thought you know the food is changed so much and in Russia we Libras and you know bostick’s kind of thing and she she started researching out and she started changing her young Sons diet so she took out the white flower and get whatever he was eating and she put him on bra because the college in the gelatin in the bra will will heal the gut lining the gut lining is very similar to the skin and so healing that and then introducing these ferments very slowly and she healed his gut it’s much easier when they’re younger the younger you know he gets them the better and by God kiss cured of autism and so then she started sharing this with her patients and so you can imagine all these people flocking to her and then what she did also find it that many families would adopt the protocol to support the child and then started realizing that the symptoms from different autoimmune disorders were disappearing altogether because they were healing their guts and and so then she wrote a book called out and psychology syndrome and then there is a wonderful book that I have my clients to who I feel really could use this by off and give it to them called the heal your gut Cookbook by Hilary Boynton and I love that book dr. McBride wrote the forward for that and then it’s got beautiful glossy color photos and it goes step by step by step here’s what you can eat here here’s some you know he was some recipes you know to do this it just makes it so easy to do and and so I have worked with a number of people who I put on this protocol and they have thrived I mean they’ve turned around things amazing I work for the woman I still work with her I’ve been working there for 2 years now she had rheumatoid arthritis for 27 years she contracted it when she was 18 or developed dementia and so she tried absolutely everything I unfortunately did the conventional medical Roots a lot of drugs and I said look let’s just chill your. You know that’s all I care about and after 6 weeks she started with the introductory diet which is the most restrictive and it’s restricted because you’re essentially taking your gut and it’s like a damaged little baby and you’re just saying alright we’re going to go really easy on you this would be really easy to digest because what you’re doing is you’re giving your gut the opportunity to heal and nature can bounce back she can bounce back from really anything but she needs the opportunity to heal right to get to stop washing her with all the poisons and after 6 weeks she contacted me and she said okay you just need to know that my pain and swelling of gone from a 12 out of 10 to a two and and she’s one of these people who will follow to the letter and a few months after that she was playing tennis and she won a tennis tournament and and so and then her skin was beautiful she’s like it’s ridiculous on some pericing like everyone’s like what do you put on your skin and she is like it’s not what I put on my yes she is she swears by this and and I mean I have more stories like that and I won’t go into all of them but I have seen this first hand and so you know that’s why I’m like I’m not interested in what the you know whatever the media has to say I’m sure as hell not interested in what the Hino conventional medicine has to say because those guys have zero understanding of nutrition and then the conventionally train nutritionist have been trained in schools that were funded by these major multinational corporations that want them you know selling all the stuff and if you go on these websites like the American Heart Association and American diabetic Association and you see the food they’re recommending it takes my breath away it’s so disgusting it’s just deplorable so so that’s why I look to the traditional to be anxious cuz they they weren’t trying to sell you anything that’s just how they ate I’ve been under on the Divine masculine side of my personal development I’ve been getting very deep into the survivalist movement and there is powerful thought leaders in that movement that are a really promoting and in a positive and empowered way the ketogenic and paleo certain parameters and Primal parameters on diet and a lot of interesting insights her or coming up from that and if I could I’ll just share a few things that you can bend riff off of the kind of I’ll bring it in a little bit personal for me for a moment and say that I’m probably maybe I can see exactly what the hell with it the start date was but I I had to I do landscaping and I’m in the LA climate and I guess it was I guess it was last summer so I guess about six months now where I finally had my hitting bottom with with to my wish is a diet with too much sugar when I wasn’t I was thinking I was doing mostly organic and mostly is doing trail mix and dry food sand and felt that my sugar sources were cleaner and then than most and certainly avoiding processed foods however it was a lot of dehydrated raisins and banana chips and things where he was super concentrating the sugars and really just continually antagonizing my gut and continually in flaming me and and also causing just like almost it’s just super charging super powering that that psychological element that anxiety and the PTSD I felt like it was it was just so bloated with the energy that was coming from too many sugars coming into my system and it really manifested on the surface of like fungus growing on my hands and my feet cuz I was working in the Sun and working in boots and gloves and it was just like it was all over my hands and my feet I had to continue working cuz I didn’t I couldn’t just quit my job I did take a couple weeks off but that wasn’t enough so I had to just work without gloves and bitterly work without shoes so how is the monkey Garden there for a few weeks there until like they started to dry up and and miraculously I was I was at that time dating a woman who had some extra money and she was about to go on this total sugar Purge diet and and I was of course trying to impress her you know us as I can I’ll join you let’s do this then hi and lo and behold the greatest gift is meeting her was that I stuck with it and and I stopped eating the dried fruits and I started to move just Stevia and no forms of Sugar Bay sweeteners and then now it’s a you know about six months later and and and the most most done chilling and invigorating effect has been really seeing this deflation of neurotic tendencies that the thought forms that would be causing anxiety or I mean I don’t consider myself to be depressed but certainly it’s like the thought forms have to feed on you like parasites and they’re not just feeding on some amorphous energetic kind of Wu thing they’re actually I’m realizing they’re feeding on the sugar that you’re that you’re pumping into your mouth and so if I I came up with this tweet I put it on Twitter do you know not too long ago I said what’s worse demonizing sugar or sugar raising demons and still I love to hear what you think about that notion there well the thing is you know we we’ve had sugar before white cane sugar and that was in the form of Honey another words Nature has provided that for us not that you overdo the honey but raw honey is teeming with enzymes and it’s a medicinal as well and and so that’s the sweetener that I I like and I also I also like real maple syrup and and I’ll have that once a week when I retrieve clients cuz I always make one of the breakfast is sourdough pancakes with with real maple syrup they also put a Big Blob of gorgeous yogurt on top of that whole milk yogurt so the what is the beneficial bacteria before the sugar goes and feeds all the negative ones is that in my understanding that when I would make my young girls breakfast for they go to school by the way I wish I’d homeschooled I didn’t know that back then but anyway I would never gave him breakfast cereal and pasteurized milk and all that crap I would always make them eggs and toast with lots of butter or I do in a french toast which is dipped in the egg and then and then I would put whipped cream on that but like homemade whipped cream it was no sweetener or just below the Nilla anyway so they always had this wonderful breakfast that had a good amount protein and fat and carbohydrate right so so that they could the fat would calm them and they could think through the day and and what’s happening with these children is there eating these breakfast made of of sugar like just like when you were sharing all those dried fruit that you reading in the trail mix and the Granola it’s all sugar and so that it turns to sugar in the body and these children are not getting nutrient-dense Foods in the morning and then and then they get to school there climbing the walls and of course they can also what could be more unnatural than you know signing a child to us you know Ed Sheeran add a task in a square room indoors for 7 hours to know and then they and then they complain when especially the young boys just want to jump around and have a good time and you know like they belong outside in the fields freebasing sucrose and being forced to in a straitjacket of these people in the schools and they’re pressuring the parents to drug their children which is so beyond immoral and first of all and an even these days psychiatrist and psychotherapist you are also handing these drugs out like their candy and by the way no one’s done any brain scans now that it’s just based on an opinion and since when do teachers since when do they have that kind of knowledge to be able to determine you know that you are 7 year old needs a brain damage and ultimately drug you know like it’s just it’s it’s astonishing when really ultimately these kids are nutritionally they’re just starve nutritionally and and it makes a big difference when you feed them these these these Foods is nutritionally dense foods and raw milk especially and you see me you spoke of eczema that’s so common with these children because also pasteurized milk has been number 1 allergen that’s because pasteurized milk is not milk it Amin chemically it’s not and in so it’s a very difficult to digest it is not the same as as your raw milk from obviously obviously healthy cows raised on pasture and by the way cows raised on pasture enough for a farmer who’s producing raw milk or health either outside a good at healthy cow live 26 27 years a commercial dairy cow will live maybe 5 and and I will say also as someone who is attritional food person I am very careful where I Source my meet my favorite favorite place in the whole world is the farmers market I love going to the farmers market I know my Farmers by name I know where meat comes from I’ve been to two of the Farms where it’s produced I’ve seen those animals out on pasture where they belong you know how they’re slaughtered in this is all done on the up-and-up commercial farming is not farming it is it is a factory and it is deplorable and you know it’s interesting because Karl Marx was the first one to reduce animals from this place of you know just really the sacred how they were taken care of down to he called them units of measure and I will say for those out there who think whatever collectivism communism whatever is such a great saying it is a machine culture you are a cog in the wheel there is no room for the individual so it’s that’s very much in a box and and I just thought that I did not know that and and I thought that was very poignant units of measure that that’s disgusting so if machine culture ultimately were enough machine or a factory culture and this is why people are not thriving and cuz this is not how we’re supposed to let we’re not meant to be corporate wage slaves and commute up to 2 hours you know sometimes each wet I mean like it’s amazing you know no time spent in nature anymore or with each other really yeah you know I actually did like but what that brings to mind for me is going back years to Anthropologie my anthropology track in college it was there was a an essay believe I’m maybe I maybe forgetting the name but I think it was one of the one of the the highly respected sort of catalyst for her primitivism I think was Marvin Harrison or one of the other kind of groundbreaking Folks at the time they were saying help with a concept that called Energy Gates and looking at the thesaurus stages of patriarchal Empires and how and Jared Diamond do the same kind of similar analysis about how granaries is what facilitated conquest and the coaches that did not have that had you know tropical spoiling fruits and vegetables that could not be stored for indefinitely if it was toward right you know the show is so good that the culturing of these domestic cats and their ability to feed armies and marching armies off of his dried wheat berries and he’s dried grains that was really what what time do or what we’re living in and obviously the legacy of the conquest of those who figured out how to make these these calorie pellets that were that wouldn’t spoil and and they would be able to ferment them and make beer and so the contaminated water they could drink beer and have less deaths from water contamination cuz it was more. If you will at that point those to fix this warrant about the machine this goes back thousands of years to the the war machines and we’re still living in that Legacy in the Cheerios go in and the soy milk go in one in and the diaper rashes out the other end what do you say to that 95% maybe it’s 98% of the soil all the so I produced is GMO but still he also was never ever meant to be Eaton ingested in the way it is I mean it’s an absolutely everything be quiet cuz it’s a very cheap filler and see if they can seduce as soon as thinking it’s this health healthy alternative to milk or whatever then people will buy it cuz they’ll just believe it but in Asian countries so it was fermented so she could leave made into Tempe and soy sauce tamari. Could that kind of thing but but tofu itself was you know you’d have it in small amounts but it’s an absolute everything as is corn and so and end their there they’re cheap fillers and they are marketed as being healthy and so yeah I mean it and also so I contain is it it’s a goitrogen so it affects the thyroid negatively also I believe phytoestrogens as well so too much soy and John is not necessary no it’s not good for our boys so it’s not it’s not healthy it’s not something I would give to my children and and then you have to watch the almond milk because the Almond industry in this happened a number of years ago now they are spraying all of these almonds in California with a few against that has been banned in in Canada and Europe but for some reason it seems to be perfectly acceptable for all of us here and so all that almonds milk that you are these people are drinking is not necessarily so healthy either because I mean this is just a lot of stuff is dangerous that they spray the stuff with you know how food is more clients Works in health food store and she said oh my God Shana shouldn’t I look around everything’s in a box you know and shipped all over from hell and gone by the way and you know a lot of it is just it’s just marketing it just marketing and so I I just for anyone who this resonates with I I say eat as close to the farm as possible and if you can’t grow your food and go to the farmers market if you can get to a farmers market you don’t remember I spoke at a conference in Milwaukee and too windy was there he is an amazing Elder and he talks a lot about mushrooms he does very high dose mushrooms but he was talking about he lives in Detroit and that there is an extraordinary group of people there where he said you know what we do with empty lots in Rich Roy and Detroit kill them so there’s this whole Urban farming Community it’s cropping up and I know it’s in you know Detroit and other areas as well for people aren’t like inner cities are growing food this is the thing you know I think we can have heaven on Earth I really think we are in the garden with a beast or parasite in the guard him right now but we are in the garden and there is opportunity everywhere truly for like turning lemons into lemonade essentially and and you know even just growing herbs in pots like just whatever you can do and and also if you have a garden and but it’s small and he can actually grow food and put native flowers in there because the pollinators need that like you’re so so much we can do to support the Earth and and and you know support ourselves with with good food the farmers markets are fantastic just fantastic mean I I love I love knowing my Farmers be great to get into just some very simple practical steps I know one thing that resonates with me is that the notion that you should if you are if you are going to go to the supermarket shop on the outer ring of the store and you should be allowed to everything on the Isles but you know there’s the the produce the dairy the fish the meat and and that’s all the disorder refrigerated in and refresh sort of stock of the outer ring of all the supermarkets by Design and then anything on those not I guess not everything because there are oils and there are there are fermented pickles and whatnot of course crowds that are that are in the center aisles but but do you want to talk about some yes and more practical steps if you can take and maybe one of the things that for four people who have newborn babies who are not going to be able to just go to this extreme keto paleo thing this excerpt a macho is a lot of machismo in that world too and I haven’t heard these Macho men talk about feeding babies a keto paleo diet or I don’t know how you would translate into that or how you would recommend you Sally Fallon let me find it here she wrote a book on foods for baby and child like nourishing foods okay I’m just going on Amazon I’m just going to find it the title of this book is book of baby and child care for babies that need formula I mean God with the stuff in the supermarket is is just it’s it’s immoral but there is a recipe for doing a proper you know baby formula if you can’t breastfeed or in addition to Farina when you’re done breastfeeding I mean she’s just got out of everything but it’s all based on traditional principles and and I’d love that she did that because especially new mothers their moms don’t necessarily know any of this and it’s not their fault they just weren’t taught you know and and so they don’t really know where to to look and so this is a really really wonderful resource for for that and then if you can find your way to raw milk for your children this is so so important because it will ensure that your child develops a healthy gut and that means they will be are they will they will not be sick as often as everyone else’s kids and you know there could be stronger they will develop really beautiful teeth and a good jawline you know you you could you could eradicate the need to Anjali to for your child to have braces and it also affects their behavior and their ability to sleep at night I mean there’s so many factors you are what you eat and Epocrates said let food be thy medicine and eye medicine you guys food and you mentioned oils for the supermarket and I will just say be very very careful what you cook your food and so canola oil is a no-go it’s garbage it’s rapeseed even if they called her dad I just watch out for organic because you know the USDA is kind taking that over and I mean Monsanto wants to grow stuff and call it organic for god sakes so just you know and I found like at the farmers market there are some wonderful farmers who they say they don’t have the Organic certification it’s very expensive but they don’t pray at all and yeah yeah well and I love those biodynamic and that’s following the tentative Rudolf Steiner biodynamics. Applying homeopathic remedies since way to the soil to call back the life force in the land and it’s similar to permaculture I mean they really go hand-in-hand nicely he know where the farm is thought of as a single organism and everything’s made on the farm and and I are very much loved the biodynamic way but the good fats to cook with I get lard from the farmers market and then I take it home and I render it myself which means you heat it up in a pan until it melts in and I poured into a glass jar and it turns a beautiful white color and that is again I am Scottish Irish and my people 8 May 8th Pig pay 8 lab band and all of that and so the fat was priced there’s an old expression living off the fat of the land that was good and and so I cook with that because it’s very stable at high temperatures whereas these vegetable oils cannot handle the super high temperatures and so then they’ll basically turn to plastic in your arteries so you’re the good fats are important chicken broth I’ll do like a big 20 quart stock pot of chicken broth and then I put the quart-size mason jars in the freezer and then I’ll make a soup and it’s super simple one of my favorites is Carrot leaking so I just chop everything the carrots and leeks and saute them in coconut oil and then I put them in a pot I put a can of coconut milk in there and then two quarts of my chicken broth and cook it up it’s so delicious it’s rustic I mean I think of this is it’s like rustic peasant food and it’s so simple but the ingredients are beautiful cuz they’re locally-sourced even better again if you got a garden III I can’t grow them in the garden yet you know there’s another something else. Love to hear your thoughts on is it a point was brought up somewhere recently in my digestive podcast and what not and it was just that it’s often overlooked that weird sort of gear now even even meat eaters Among Us are geared to the muscle meat of an animal whereas a traditional diet and not just the sort of stereotypical Native American using every part of the Buffalo or whatever it’s really that the organ meats and all of the other parts of an animal body that would have contained different densities of nutrients have different fat content that were that’s probably the the the bone broth argument is that it’s it’s you’re getting more of those not just the choice cuts of meat however we had that’s not really holistic either right just eating only the muscle Meats ulcer doctor price discovered it is these cultures realized the organ Meats particularly the liver and I used to be anemic and so after I joined the ntai I would get Frozen liver and this is from Skagit River Ranch which is in the state of Washington and they’re amazing and so you know these are healthy cow go get Frozen liver and believe it or not I took me months to sort of get brace myself to do this now I do it no problem I would great the Frozen liver and a great like a tablespoon or two and I put it in a glass and I would put some just tomato veggie juice and they’re just whatever from the store right and then I would just down at I just swallow it and and so because also a lot of these most of these supplements people take your lucky if you get 30 maybe 40% of whatever supposed to be in that supplement and I don’t take supplements except for magnesium and I take a liquid magnesium called remag by dr. Carolyn Dean and that’s because our soils used to be teaming with magnesium and it is in charge of over 800 enzymatic processes within the body I mean Weed Day but we need magnesium and most people are very low on it so I do take liquid magnesium but then the rest of it comes from my my food and so I drank that liver drink like three times a week I did at 4. Months and my anemia is gone all gone so in other words you know that you could take a liver supplement whatever or whoever itself and and it goes and it does it’s it’s magic and it’s raw liver so yeah I mean that were made special ties with the with the organism and disses disses ancient old and then also the fat on the meat is prized and of course it makes food taste better let me ask you this the one of the things from my permaculture studies that is to me the most effective sort of psychic Aikido I don’t have a weapon but but tool for working with the the Burberry the barbarism of some of these ideologies that have been of sprung up and in and really it’s it’s a it’s like when I think about that the fact that you can go out onto a landscape and good luck trying to synthesize proteins and fats by chewing on shrubs and tree branches and grass but if you employee the ruminants and the goats and you know you got this leverage point that is these animals that are designed to just Chomp down Woody material and grassy material and put it through multiple stomachs even and then and then produce the U of these products and it seems to me that the ecological ethics of you know I mean for me I boil it down to create more life and you destroy and your golden so be like about an emic Gardener or permaculture Gardner and integrate all of the levels of the ecosystem and create beautiful habitat where they they don’t even really know that they’re being farmed in oh that’s possible with some of these techniques and and just to to frame it and in terms of the efficiency gains in in working in partnership with with these other animal allies and if we can give them beautiful good lives and not put them in cages and dope him up and drag them up then maybe we can sort of have a little bit of fun Breathing Room you know you’re glad to be speaking what are you what do you think about that my heroes are the farmers like the real farmers and you made me think of Joel salatin who was made pretty famous by Michael Pollan book The Omnivore’s Dilemma angels to Latin calls himself grass farmer said it’s all about the grass and so he raises cattle and chickens and so he said I just follow nature and so the ruminants go out there and they eat the grasses and then then he moves them to a different field he waits a couple of days so that all the little eggs that are in the manure start to hatch then he lets his chickens he brings his chicken it’s into that field and they go crazy and I scratched the cow pies and get that all mixed into the the grass may eat a little buggies and so they produced these extraordinary eggs and and you know so he is he’s really he’s in this beautiful Harmony with the land and he also he produces so much on his farm and he will not ship it long distance he refuses to do to do that which I also really like so yeah he was a great that grow so much beautiful stuff from him I saw Ted Talk and he’s he’s growing him to like doing these he’s he’s he’s trying to stay in body and in as I can use the theatrical performance of different different creatures in the soil biology and it’s it’s just I love I love him to death he’s so great and I remember him saying one time or somewhere I heard about it’s like he actually has to proactively raise the fence posts the fence posts around the property because he’s building soil that’s just growing in height and as long as he’s actually doing like millions of years worth of soil production with this rotational grazing. Yeah Berean of the carbon whatever in the factory farms absolutely there an aberration but these traditional farmers who are the following the older ways they’re doing a good job you know I mean they’re stewarding the land as it should be certain they are this is proper animal husbandry because like it or not I mean we have been consuming animals for very very very long time you know I mean it’s kept us very strong and but but you know if it did the whole Commercial Way of raising these animals to me is is it to me I think it will be a stain on on our culture for a long time to come and and you can tell a lot about what you know of culture by how they treat their animals and it’s not just American culture either you know this is yeah we’re getting at work we’ve covered a lot of thank you so much this really it it has satisfied my desire to get some some really important groundwork laid for the listeners of this podcast in to sort if I’ve been hesitant to sort of Explorer and break down some of these these myths and taboos around. I don’t want to alienate anybody who is very committed to any specific no Animal product diet but I think we all need to just continue the dialogue and something that I would like to I guess a final thought I’d like to to give you some more whatever time you have left to get to talk about it said as I guess I have been rehabilitating myself from nutting as I always say you a sugar and carb obviously like a sort of subconscious addiction and just to serve the ubiquity of it is it’s it’s really starts at 2 to audit the the sugar intake that is not from Whole Living fresh fruits you know mostly the and you look at you start to audit that it’s really it’s for me it’s been it’s been absolutely mortifying and I really feel like we’re in a zombie apocalypse we’re like maybe 90% of the the personality disorder is in a relationship conflict conflict and that just the antagonist in education is cause and I’m seeing it I’m seeing myself Google and dumb just like I’m in this Buddha nature zone now that I’m post extraneous sugar and I’m going to be able to see how people who were just just being pie in and out of of Starbucks drive-thrus they’re going to they’re going into the road rage and they’re going into the office they’re going into like every interaction is so cranked up on this crystal meth sugar caffeine is in the danishes in the muffins and it’s just like you burn it down in a in a Bunsen burner and you just got this free base of Crystal and sugar this whole thing and just like the I am just the other day I was I guess I will be I was being socially open to sugary Foods you know to be to be nice but you know in public and that and it was like okay here’s pizza and ice cream and literally within an hour I felt like I had just drink battery acid I could feel the contrast of like what is going on they send people called a good, because they just ate a you know a brick of carbs and and it’s really you know once you have that contrast it’s a real it’s really it’s a really deep things I don’t know if you have any final thoughts to share about just like a words of words of wisdom about your motive like what what could you say to motivate people to really really look at labels and really question and and understand that it may not say sugar in a may not look like sugar or even taste like sugar but you could be having the most Savory meal and have that sugar be the second ingredient on every sauce out of whatever so how do we close a case on sugar here I know well that’s something I thought was just really great she was saying just like everything you spoke to she said really this is about survival of the wisest so only the wisest are going to survive and I just made the people who are really proactive about you know pudding good nutrient dense foods in their body and staying away from all of that garbage and and I will say that the fermented foods especially like the sauerkraut they start when you start eating fermented foods beet kvass which is fermented beet juice a drink that every morning it’s changes your taste buds so that’s something to consider and also there is a flavor that we no one takes in anymore and that’s bitter so there’s something called Swedish Bitters and and nose would be taken as a digestive Aid before eating and any just take a little bit like in water but it will Swedish bitters with curb your sugar cravings and they will also, you know an upset stomach nausea gas bloating all of that they are bitters are amazing for the digestive system in for the production of hydrochloric acid and no balance your appetite and they will maintain healthy blood sugar levels so Swedish bitters are a great thing to include and also when my retreat clients, we don’t have any sugar being higher week but the food is so satisfying why cuz there’s a lot of good saturated fat in there and so the raw milk kefir is its dreamy creamy so incredibly delicious and I just put a little bit of vanilla in there and it’s so satisfying and there’s something like a comfort food and then the breakfast I make is my leavened sourdough bread that I make toasted slathered with butter beautiful butter kerrygold front of or I get raw butter from an Amish farmer and then I near it with avocado and then I’ll put three or four fried eggs that were stopped by and large and then a huge dollop of sauerkraut and the flavor combination is so amazing everybody freaks on that and I explain to people look you know you have a breakfast like that and then you drive to the office and then everyone’s over at the coffee klatch and they brought in all their chemical cookies and their shite donuts and stuff you’re going to be like oh my God I can’t put anything my stomach I’m not hungry and then you know I have the gorgeous suit that I make in town is so satisfying and then yes it was so when you’re eating is nutrient dense foods your body is satisfied because what do they say we have a country for obese people who are you know their bodies are starving their bodies are starving some nourishment and then people will go in this low-fat no-fat by you know 9 p.m. they’re climbing the walls and it’s thrown open every cabinet door in their kitchen to seeking something cuz their body is Jonesing food I’m telling you will do wonders for your sugar Cravings it’s really really something and yeah I mean to be so addicted to sugar I love sugar and and I would have liked a like I would always get really beautiful chocolate and I would have a stash somewhere and I’ll tell you like I finally went off at completely a year ago when I did a mushroom journey and it was a big journey and I had all these different you know these beautiful beings I just lie in the darkness with my recorder and I Channel and it’s all poetry and one of the things they said was oh and awful sugar their daughter you must be aware another evil we won’t so healthy bodies we do grow and so and so and they haven’t steered me wrong yet it’s back to give me a pack of Lee for almost eight years fine I won’t touch it and I haven’t said yeah that is that is the the most of those the gym I think of this whole this whole episode was what you just shared right there and so yes thank you so much for that and when can we look forward to the Shona home YouTube cooking show and so if you want to learn more about you know how to make raw milk kefir go on YouTube. Just type it if you want to learn how to make beats come up type it into YouTube or sauerkraut there’s so many amazing people out there who had these done these videos of themselves and they’re giving all this great information and it’s free it’s pretty great yeah well hopefully yeah hopefully the is that something you thought about or would you consider doing something like that even if it was just your own program on your own website or something I don’t know I’m also I’m putting together everything now to launch my school which I will launch in April and the school will begin in May of 2020 and it’s just for women right now only because it’s going to be eight women who will travel to my farm four times out of the year and they’ll stay there and I would love to do it for men and women but I just don’t have sort of this be sleeping accommodations quite quite together yet so we’ll start with women and it’s called Daughters of the fairy tree and end so all the traditional food knowledge will be taught and foundational herbalism as well as you know seership Divinity of dousing all kinds of things like that and coupled with I’m going to teach the Trivium and logical fallacies and foundational contract maxims of law because that’s very important as well because people don’t know that so they don’t even know you know they get caught in the arguments that we see playing out and are disgusting media and if people knew wouldn’t ad hominem is you know or an appeal to emotion and they just wouldn’t even entertain those arguments cuz you know there’s there’s no reason to involve there’s no logic involved there just High emotion to get everyone’s knickers in a Twist so yeah and you know I should say real quick before we finish talking about your listeners know I just wanted to say real quickly there I love the herbs and I do herbal infusions daily and there’s an earth called oat straw and it has it’s an old medicinal and there were some studies done there’s a wonderful website it’s called I just just Googled Medical herbalist medical herbalist oat-straw and you’ll get hit this guy’s in Australia or New Zealand but he talks about the oats and he writes in a clinical study in 1968 1969 6 out of 10 chronic opium addicts gave up the drug after treatment with O2 mL of tincture this is oat root tincture three times a day over 27 to 45 days to of the remaining for attics reduce their intake the participants status was maintained on follow-ups 3 to 19 months later and no serious withdrawal symptoms or side effects were noted the doses to milliliters is 3 times a day of tincture made from the hole from the whole plant excluding the root excuse me excuse to this is tincture of of oats and so it’s been fantastic four people to eat to help them get off opioid addiction how many people are addicted to opioids oh hell no skullcap is also Fantastic Four people who are depressed or anxious and and so you can do a tincture with skullcap and so he writes about that as well and there was one thing I was going to share on that as well if I can find it I mean in a terrific you know we’ve got to do our own due diligence we’ve got a really start researching the Alternatives because again Nature has a cure for everything so I’ll just read this real quick isn’t on skullcap wh cook right quote in The Horde sleeplessness it arises under the effort to abstain from the habitual use of opium it is one of the most Trump and reliable agents of the whole Materia Medica by Tony and also soothing the nervous structures it secures that steadiness of action which is followed by quiet sleep and it induces no shades of narcotism neither leaves behind any excitement sensitiveness North Cane Corso its skull cap is also excellent for people endeavoring to get off opioids and it’s it’s in Irving and nervines are you know they’re really good for the nervous system so there is a whole array of choices we have really wonderful for people suffering from anxiety and also depression that will not I’ll bring the liver harmful side effects you know that the these these These are herbs and they’re safe and and so I just wanted to share that as well for anyone cuz some people suffering from that as well and there’s hope for those people you’re not going to read about it in the lamestream media awesome well thank you so much again and I would say that my final thought is that throw a better party through a better potluck and I think that’s said that’s going to be my intention moving forward and so do you want to share your website URL and any other ways to contact so folks can follow up then and get connected and my email is on on there as well Shawna. Home at comcast.net and so shoot me an email and and I always return my my email so I’d love to hear from all of you also great well thank you so much son of this was so much homework to to follow up on and next time I will be at a new better and healthier person after following up on your advice so you have a wonderful rest of your evening and thank you again and be well thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com can cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provide ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episode if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com, CA

Durga Mantra for the Distressed and Oppressed

Sharannaagata-Diina-Aarta-Paritraanna-Paraayanne
Sarvasy-Aarti-Hare Devi Naaraayanni Namostu Te

Meaning:
Salutations to You, O Jagadamba) You are Intent upon Rescuing the Distressed and the Oppressed who take Your Refuge whole-heartedly,
and Remove All their Sufferings; Salutations to You O Narayani

Spiritual First Aid for Sexual Assault Survivors with Alexandria Baker TPP177

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In this episode I’m joined again by Alexandria Baker, a southern California sex educator, Hatha yoga instructor, ethical luxurious natural beauty and skin care entrepreneur, model, and performance artist.

In our previous episode she shared all about her personal journey, background:
https://tantrapunk.com/sexy-mindfulness-in-lifestyle-and-livelihood-with-alexandria-baker-tpp149/

I was eager to learn of her recent world traveling adventures and sadly discovered in the course of the podcast that she had experienced sexual assault. She boldly shares about the experience, I do my best to apply comforting and empowering stories from my personal battles with surviving sexual trauma. We compare notes and agree that much more loving, care, safe space is needed culturally to seriously address the the plague of abuse.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 177 I’m being rejoined by Alexandria Baker who is a Southern California sex educator Hatha Yoga instructor ethical luxurious natural beauty and skincare entrepreneur model and performance artists and we didn’t episode called sexy mindfulness in lifestyle and livelihood and that was supposed to number 149 so I encourage you to reference that and go back and check that out to get more of the origin story of Alexandria’s super heroic efforts in the world and we’re about to hear an update from from her recent Journeys have brought into studies and I’ve only been getting beautiful glimpses on Instagram here and there so this is going to be exciting exciting round of updates from who I hope will be a regular correspondent here on the 5 chest it was a pleasure last time and it is a pleasure now and yeah but when was that that was back in April so a lot has happened since then and we ended our last podcast on a bit of a teaser discussing the center for positive sexualities first conference that I was speaking at and that has come and gone and it has created this magical little nest in my heart of and something that I am now starting to really give birth and rice to riches giving more guided meditations and being able to present mindfulness with sexuality and these fears that perhaps might not have been acquainted with it before but what was so nice about that conference was that I was just one of a few people who actually brought up the topic of mindfulness and so it was a crowd that was someone acquainted with being Mindful and present having a sense of spirituality with the sexual and there are some who are very Green Cemetery need to it and others who were like yeah I do this all the time but it was a really Welcome Avenue for this mental and spiritual exploration and so to see people tuned in and then dial into themselves as I was talking about connecting with your sexy self in a spiritual way was just so awesome and beautiful and this is a great time to continue to develop them right to spread the seeds and let this let these eggs hatch into a beautiful birds that I can fly so that was the conference and since then I have been traveling to Europe and West Africa to meditation and yoga and it’s been a beautiful blessing and really really tough challenges well we can get into that yeah please do yeah I’m riveted knowing that you get to travel so much and and I’m all have questions but I love for you to just keep rolling in to give us like the the chronology you know and the itinerary and all that good stuff I was so I left in the middle of the end of July to go to Malta for a month and there it was really about developing my personal practice and it is very focused and driven and really into my body and inhabiting the space and what is a teeny tiny Island that’s below Sicily which is below the boot of Italy and there’s some things going on but at the same time it was also I felt very isolated and so it was a challenge to not have a bunch of friends around that I can just call and hang out if it was a time till I get my books in writing and really work on myself so there were parts of it ever really hard and lonely but also turning Inward and the connecting with the spiritual finding myself my core and from there I moved on to Madrid Spain and I was in the church for a few weeks and I started to do more of my performance training which is primarily with the Leroy which is a suspended suspended ring that was awesome and I have all the little there around southern Spain went back to Madrid from Madrid to Lisbon Portugal I was there for three nights then Portugal fluid to the car Senegal I was there for a few weeks and I went to The Gambia and kind of so this is a country that’s on the western side of Africa and north of that is a little sliver of a country The Gambia I was there for a week return to Senegal back to Lisbon for a little less than a week I was in Spain I want to travel to Barcelona and explore in North Eastern side of spade and go into the south of France and clear out in the mountains and come back down drove down there for a while continue to teach you take classes that was a journey of about four months of teaching and falling in love with myself and other people and practice medicine allowing myself to and it sometimes not allowing myself but just being totally gutted and exposed to the core and having these really intense experiences and I’m not really beautiful and some that were really hard but you’re all that I’m doing my best to slam girl from it took to be able to find gig type work I can sit around the world so I’m curious if you could elaborate on the the planning and forethought and design that went into kind of brought it sound, it sounds almost like you were you booked almost like a chore to do your teachings intimate in to provide your offerings and I’m wondering if that was something you did kind of in advance or if it was just you go to a place and you ask around and you put up with you know a sign and a window or I don’t know I’m so curious how you how you get to be blessed to the level of being able to just take a shower on the road and in not as so they have a booking agent or not yeah I have no idea of the sounds great. Sounds like a great way to have a vacation travel go to business totally that’s absolutely but it was and when it comes to travel I’m a bit of a wild woman I have an idea of the types of things that I would like to do or what I want to experience or maybe these I have a huge list of places that I want to see so I’ll think okay I want to go to this beach so how can I make it happen that’s not what happened for this trip my initial intention for going out to Spain which was Miley main point was to go to school but with the beautiful ways that FAFSA and other the economics of University goes it didn’t work out and instead of just like being super bummed about it or coming home early as I did come home early but I was planning on staying out there for a year I messaged one of my girlfriends who I am connected to through performance and asked her about I I I sent her a message and ask where should I go in Africa I’ve never been I want to experience that I want to explore maybe Morocco Egypt and I’m going to be in Senegal on these dates does this work out and it worked out perfectly and she has an organization the gambian marine and Environmental Conservation and initiative which is dedicated to protecting and preserving The Gambia through immediate action and Community Development that I’m just so behind I love it I love watching her grow and seeing her journey and the things that she’s doing for for her country and I said okay how can I be a part of this what can I do and she’s a dance instructor so she has connections at Studios and with interested people who like to move back active and it was just a beautiful Snowball Effect of I connected with one studio and then I looked an air B&B to stay out for the week and then the hostess happened to go to a studio just their instructors left to go back home the week before so it was like why all of these things are happening in a really beautiful amazing way because I I just allowed things to happen not to say that I was 100% okay with school not working out and it wasn’t a bummer because in many ways it was but I moved past that move through that and thoughts okay what what can I do now what do I want to do I want to teach yoga I want to teach meditation I want surf I want to spend time on the beach I would like to do dance classes and I really really want to be a part of this organization and let every way that I can and we made it happen my friend’s name is yandere and she’s at our house Superwoman so a lot of the connections and West Africa came through her bikini is it there nice to have friends that’s what friends are for booking you on Amazing Adventures in elderly severe so what is that how does from what from what I understand you were on a trajectory of doing but what would you call it a kind of Orthodox medicine degree to be able to use that stuff is that still in the works or how does that affect that that life goal and my ultimate career goal is to be an osteopath so that’s why I would do the same things as a doctor but it’s a few more months of Hands-On training so that I can diagnose and treat with my hands so it’s more holistic and looking at the whole person then me not being in school during that time that I was in Europe in West Africa pushes through States up at least a year at this point because some other plans have changed but what was all so wonderful about that instead of going for credits just to increase like on The Bachelor level now I’m looking at getting my master’s degree in an exercise science so that I can have the prerequisites completed for medical school and now I have an additional degree and I’ll be able to be a way better yoga instructor with more information about how the Body Works in just whole body systems and more and more practice with that that’s what I love and I’m happy that I’ll be able to be at better practitioner and provider yeah I’ve always wish I had more time to well I guess I will say I’m looking forward to when I’m successful enough to wear certain certain responsibilities and precious in my life for our or minimize to where I can actually catch up to a lot of self-study that I wanted to do including anatomy and physiology and all the systems in and I was just fascinated in the the exposure that I had had in standard education I guess and certainly when it applies to healing in all of this super esoteric yoga guy actually have a book called esoteric systems of the body or something and esoteric anatomy of the body and it’s just I’m salivating too real to say two in it goes over all these esoteric traditions and but it has all these maps of the body in maps of different Energy Systems and I just can’t wait to see how they said the size it just so much beautiful scholarship and I would like to yeah I’d like to compare notes cuz you you move in that direction so is that something that you have already begun kind of studying on your own how would you say that like I’m curious if you could talk just about some of the things that excite you about that field some of the things that you’ve already discovered there and absolutely and before we get into that book sounds super yummy and I definitely want to have a good title of it again in the author so that I can get my hands on that and we will certainly pick up rhino but now that I’ve taken you years off of formal education in a university setting I am turning to my notorious and I trainers and teachers and really asking questions about okay when I do when you told me to do this particular movement on the pole where is that coming from to understand that it’s not just my ankle that’s attaching to this large metal rod it’s I’m the movements coming from my head been so when and how to stop move or shift my my abdomen and my shoulders like what positioning do I need to be internally make V to get the quality of the movement’s correct so that I can be safe and also look pretty while I’m doing it so to have a deeper understanding and a physical level is right now the intention that I’m holding when I go into my practice in my training so that I can not only do this well but I’ll be able to teach her that at a certain point unlevel so really leaning into the support that I have been doing as much as I can turn a too much for the others and dial-in on my health practices I I’m trying to consume as much as I can on my own and with the help of me awesome well me and all of the community here at Township on podcasts will be your Study Buddies cuz this is so stiff for everybody wants to up level the stuff and I actually this it makes me think a lot about the difference between more traditional modes of teaching a martial arts and Healing Arts and sexual Arts it’s it’s like they used to be understanding by students that there would be riddles and mysticism and levels of knowledge and you couldn’t just show up to meet up for free or for five bucks and just start picking the brain of the master pack all of their secrets and if they don’t give it to you in a timely manner you’re going to get him a bad Yelp review and so I feel like God now if ever teach anything I have to be armed with so much Western Scientific backup knowledge because people will want to interrogate you and know what if this interests but from a personal level I would say that most of my students have been very very humble and very very they’re interested they want to know where I get my information from for sure I mean some of them do others are just I can help me get into this meditative state so that I can go to sleep that’s all I want but I actually really enjoy the ones who are challenging me and they want more information and they want me to like be on my game and I’m young and there’s only so much knowledge that I contain in this vessel at this point so sometimes it’s the journey where we learn together and all that you know I might not know this now but I’ll look it up and then I’ll send him a message later and we’ll talk about it in the next class and that encourages me to see where my edges are Beyond it and have only had a couple I have had some private students but they were also my friends who were giving me a really more of a hard time about back to the scientific studies that they wanted proof about certain things I couldn’t give a solid example but yeah I’ve had to take deep breaths and okay well this is what I know at this point and we’re going to do this practice together and it’ll be as good as I can be in as good as we can be together and it’ll continue to get better but for now we both need a little bit of patience challenging well I appreciate your approach to that night I can often feel the same the same way that it’s it’s a it’s an artificial I just feel like there’s thanks to you the capitalist system that has broken himself into pieces we don’t have a way of learning we have opportunities to learn this important kind of fun public knowledge a lot of it would have been very public knowledge and a lot of I mean just imagine if everybody if you’ll go was if it was a yoga studio at every playground for recess and that that was part of a routine and so the cultures where meditation and mindfulness and spiritual practices that were I guess you could say more embodied than just sitting still and listening to someone yell at you or something more of those worn by the practices since they’re so lacking people are or seeking it out and discovering it later in life or maybe having only limited access and what not so it makes sense that I mean it gets the tragedy is that you as a as a certified instructor as someone who is basically gone through a sort of whatever however many hours of a crash course or bootcamp to digest the mythologies and the the Arts and Sciences of so many different competing modalities so many different conflicting modalities and to kind of trying to create these these humble and Valiant yet Valiant attempts to tube to package this material and take for us to individually transmitted to other people it’s a lot to ask and in certainly the older you get the more experience and and and I guess in some cases appropriate kind of seniority you would have in a meritocracy of life experience knowledge but but I do I do like your approach to softening that interrogator vibe in that way of saying let’s learn together because really we should have all learn together and a healthy way and and it gives me gives me some hope I’ve been are very interested to see how you been evolving and so yeah some of the things that we had Vibe down before was the sexuality education the sexual health and and wellness and also psychedelics sexual shamanic therapy treatments and all that good stuff but I spent some interesting developments in the end of General feel that I’m just curious where you’re where you’re at with all that stuff because that was something that we rushed upon as well yeah we did we did talk about that when we when we might but as far as recent developments I’ve been knot on top of what has been happening in the Psychedelic science field lately my focus has been in other direction but what’s happened but what can you tell us about that then I can give my opinion so much love and affection for Rick doblin of the multidisciplinary association of psychedelic studies maps the biggest non-profit pharmaceutical drug development company that’s really ever existed in that continues to just blow my mind with their integrity and their their duty of care rather than take an approach wear your pants during the government to release all restrictions on administering these these compounds to the masses however over the counter or through prescription rather than having that that huge liability and risk it it’s that there’s another way to do it which I had not considered in which they are totally dialing in right now and it makes so much sense and what that is is that rather than having an individual who is who who is in need of the therapeutic value of this of these medicines rather than having them take dosages in like a baggie with their little vial of their little canister and take that and then go out into the insanity of chaos of their existing home life and the existing world then that the idea is that the legal space for the for the administering and for the consumption of the medicine is in a is in a therapeutic context in a clinical setting that is conducted by trained facilitators who may or may not have various medical or academic therapeutic sort of state license credentials but who have at least done with maps is created which is their own custom curriculum for providers of various types types of back and then there’s a line out the door for people who want to get training to train who want to be the trainers if they want to train trainers and they want trainers to be able to go out and create clinics all over the place so that when they get the through the final phases of proving that for one MDMA is safe under certain conditions within certain dosage ranges and then say that but it’s not going to just be mass-marketed and cranked out on conveyor belts and that the drug store is going to be to have access to this medicine in a legal manner you will have to have it be it’ll be in a circumstance where your facilitator doctor therapist Shaman excetra invites you to a space where there are certain medical and procedural practices or protocols being observed very very strictly and then you receive the dosage and that’s putting an only in that setting you’re not giving more to take home and follow up and take two and call me in the morning so contain the containing that risk is so profound to me because that is what I believe is the appropriate way a ceremonial weigh-in modern clinical ceremony away if you will they’re doing their best to bring in the ceremonial and ritualistic element is best they can make they don’t have to do this in a hospital they can create their own clinics in that clinic Canby sacred geometry it can be modeled as it competes should have Ford Explorer texting water and see what I see you to bring the Shivering so that I think that kind of expresses my you know where it would I do so much more so many other amazing doors that have open for them and doors that they thought would have been slamming their face Network gently open to their shoes surprised and so I just encourage anybody to follow up listen to the research Rick doblin on psychedelic Salon podcast in and catch up to to his work but I feel like he is the exception of Bilbo Baggins see if it looks like a hobbit I just can’t get over it and he’s made it through all these years and hasn’t been embroiled in Scandal or controversy and you know I’ve I just think he’s a rare a rare as I don’t know him personally but I will say that Tim Might you know he’s going to benefit me and my colleagues and my fellow survivors and so I think that’s just really interesting and something that you’ve you might consider you know looking into at some point how because I guess I should say one more thing is that this training for specifically for my cats are male female double counselor or dynamic of being at NADA guide per se but being a sort of facilitator for for a treatment I study subject or a client as it were to to have a beautiful experience that is balanced by a masculine feminine energies and if those people are are trained in these certain protocols they developed but that once you have that training done then you were then free to riff off and create your own style to verdigre and also it will be very easy to extrapolate to other medicines other compounds and it’s it’s the container that they’re creating so with all I said I love to hear from you how you feel about what I said in and what comes to the to the surface and for you to react to yeah I really look that and Maps the multidisciplinary association for psychedelic studies is so near and dear to my heart. And mrs. Mason person I’ve only been passing but being around him and hearing how he has affected and touched so many lives and every beautiful positive way gives me so much respect for the work that he and his colleagues and everyone that has to do with our organization similar ones gives them so many pops and I really really appreciative for the work that they’re doing because some people have a sense of understanding of what these compounds are capable of as far as the benefit but now that there is not scientific backing of okay he’s this makes you feel better a week down the line because of this mechanism of action that happens within your system in your body that’s amazing that this is now proven like the proof is in the pudding and that pudding is being offered and it really important container and contacts as you were mentioning it really does just take one bad incident one person said I did this awful thing while I was on she said but while I was under the influence of psilocybin for the government to decide okay well now that’s not going on the road to perhaps legalizing it exciting but obviously it’s bad so we’re not going to and the way that Max is doing it and creating these safe spaces in containers and vetting process to make sure that the set and setting are all in line. They have their ducks in a row to then administer and go through the therapeutic process makes it so that we can understand what’s happening on a scientific level and get the benefits on that personal level and the people that their training I I I one day be able to experience this extensive training so that I may also be able to offer myself and not be as helpful as I can be in in this way because not only are they impacting the people that they encounter what’s in these clinical settings but they’re forever positively alternative I I did send a training so that I would be pure support and just be there for someone who is having any sort of difficult psychological and maybe even physical experience and Ice Festival setting but going beyond that I learned to just be there for people when they’re having something that’s challenging and the way that you talk to someone when they’re experiencing something that can be really difficult will make or break the moment and we don’t have to have trips that are just really horrible and bad and make us afraid of it because there’s a way to know strutting around it with that love and support and having an experienced person there to let you guys jerk you’re tripping understand whatever it is that you need to go through Southern even taking that knowledge outside of a psychedelic experience but with loss and with trauma were just having a bad day you don’t need someone to tell you what to do necessarily but just be there and that makes me really big difference so I learned some awesome life skills through an organization. Maps has created and I’ve learned a lot from maps and not to see what amazing things they’re doing is super cool right on so how do you feel evvie great to hear how you feel about where you where you want to what time will somebody said to me once find what breaks your heart the most and that’s your life purpose to devote yourself to be teach it to do to be in service so I’m curious now if you were travels have have fun how they’ve added to revolve your your sense of purpose in your sense of where you want to be what you want to be doing and where and how and why I’m sure you’ve had some it’s about dates to just your your whole meta-narrative whole framework of reality today really embracing the things that have totally gutted me is what I’ve been living through this month I’m going to be absolutely Frank and give a trigger warning because what I’m going to talk about has to do with sexual assault and Trauma but first blanket statement my trip was wonderful and beautiful in many ways and what happened at the end doesn’t detract from anything that was beneficial or amazing and I still continue to travel and do what I did but my second time around in Lisbon I was I entered into an agreement with someone who is a stranger but a friend of someone I trusted a friend of a friend so as we’re talkin meeting for the first time and learn that needs a massage therapist being a yoga instructor and Super Active I’m like all right what you give massage Let’s do an exchange I haven’t had a massage and a very long time I can totally sit so the time comes for his part of the exchange to happen and I’m receiving this massage and just loving the nice touches and I get into a nice meditative a sweetheart just like vibrating state of enjoyment like not even on this plane and what ends up happening is I get sexually assaulted and moving through that and just having my whole world shaking it was like I was a Snowman in this snow globe in all of this all of the snow off the bottom had been settled things were really chill it was fine I felt like I was in a good place and when that happened that Globe was shaken up and after I was assaulted I immediately felt with my throat get sore and like I started getting really bad head congestion and the physical manifestation of what just happened to me on a physical psychological spiritual level was wholly apparent in my mind and my body at without me really being able to saying like this is how I feel right now because of this some of that came up but it was like I was transported back to the processing level that I was at maybe when I was early twenties was a teenager even I was so out of my body and out of my element in a country where I didn’t speak the language and it was super hard that was I was off my I was off-balance felt horrible and I was just I felt like I was doing so much on my own and I didn’t really have anyone to turn to for support and even when I was talking to my mom about it or my family about it or some friends some people were good at just being a bit like sitting there with it and holding space and letting me processor letting me talk about it I needed and not telling you what to do not telling me how I should feel that just letting me move through it and kind of figure out this trip experience on my own but most of the time it was well you shouldn’t have been in the room with a stranger or as soon as this happened you should have done this or I would have done this or now you need to do X Y and Z like that’s it’s coming from a positive Place most of the time but it wasn’t helpful as I continue to feel better from it and have more Lucidity towards what happened in my emotions and my processing and recognizing that it was actually normal for me to have a day where I just wanted to be in bed and like randomly cry and not want to talk to strangers or wear sweaters when it’s hot outside I just don’t want my body exposed that’s a normal response to an abnormal situation and as I’m thinking what what would I have wanted the people around me to do for me what did I need what how how could if I was a friend how would I support her or him then that went through this experience what can I do better and we don’t I I really only know how to be there for someone who’s been assaulted and been through this trauma because I have and really the training that I received from xando the organization that’s where that part of maps to sit with someone and not guy not tell them what to do but just let them process and figure it out in the support of space I like learned that and I had to be taught that in a different kind of contacts to be there for someone who has been assaulted and we need more of this Hunter training that will help us be a better friend better advocated better cursing in relation to anyone who has been through this and cousin when it comes to a medical contacts that guy I am doing my best to be much more sensitive and much more caring so that I can not be an imposing figure out where someone who’s telling someone how they need to handle their life but just we we all have this innate deep wisdom into what we need to move through things and survive sometimes we need someone to say you got it you know what to do I’ll be here for you you’re not going to fall and if you trip I’ll help you get off it’s okay so with that learning in that understanding a bit more of an understanding its myself and what I needed I am there’s there’s something that certainly and development in love or text you create a container or more a different kind of sensitivity training that isn’t just for it professionals and certain contacts but for anyone who wants to be I support not sure what that looks like 100% but something has got to come out of this something good absolutely will one of the most dramatic results that I experienced at a very tender age was luckily I mean I was running screaming crying spitting gagging I’m glad to be alive but totally in shock and and just devastated and I ran for I don’t know a couple of miles it had to be at least two to go to where I thought I would find the one the one member of my street family gutter Punk tribe who is my the want the the the woman who I was so enamored with and who I will do I beg to take my virginity and and she was just my my queen goddess protector very thin how lucky I was that I found her and that she was there and she just let me curl up on her lap and and cry and like everybody else on the street had been through it and people would walk by and just be like oh yeah your cherry pop welcome to the life you know who you are you know and so and I you know I heard it was interesting just looking back at the the response of those of those folks and just kind of having my flashbacks you know a bit here in in and I would say that it was a blessing coz she she was just a spare changing where I thought you would be on the sidewalk and she just went up she just I was there curled up crying and just kind of nestle into her and she continue to we just were there until very late and we’re just doing what we used to doing what you do what you was doing and luckily she had a place that she was staying so she could have bring me there and let me take a shower and have me lay down and and seal from that point from the extreme of being literally having my life threatened and and being assaulted that’s a combination that is is extra debilitating the to go from being totally spleen out like that with the you know sort of near-death sexual assault experience surviving it escaping finding her and then being in her care for at least that night and those critical hours were I don’t know I don’t know if you know like if I would have gone straight into a squad car or something or straighten to email into it or just not had found her if she wasn’t there I would have gone so much further down into I can’t even imagine it from that cuz I was one of the first and most extreme circumstances I don’t know what is right for you and I don’t know what the most healing or best most appropriate thing is he for you now in this moment or you know there’s no judgment or no would have should have could have hindsight 20-20 I can just say what what what I’ve appreciate about what was helpful for me and how lucky I felt knowing that I guess relative to other people or other conditions where you know I would if I had woken up in a hospital and didn’t even barely remember what happened in only bits and pieces came back over time you notice all kinds of different scenario so I just want to I guess in this moment say thank you to the Angelic spirits that created the synchronicity so that my the pendulum from extreme trauma went to a pendulum of Me Bonding and getting closer with somebody who I feel most comfortable with and who I who could make it possible for me to in a way not hate myself forever and just be like yeah you know what there’s no escaping it there’s you or it was bound to happen and you’re lucky to be alive and we’re here for you and now now you’ll just have to be that much more Street Smart yeah I should have known better why didn’t I do this you know and then and then the and I had already been a martial artists and I’d already been in that was the it’s even more devastating when you think you’re a badass and you like yeah I know all my moves everything but then all it takes is someone to just let you be slightly relaxed and be within your your your inner Zone and then if they’re really have like 50 times as much muscular strength as you there’s not much that you can do no matter how much of a ninja you you tried to be and that that’s probably the biggest hardest thing is to like forget for me forgiving myself for being lured into a defenseless State okay well what if I wasn’t here to be a ring fighter a cage fighter I was here to be a sexual shamanic fight and that I had to have that that knock out that technical knockout had to happen for me to to redouble my efforts into know why I’m here what I would have to know their know their weaknesses and their pattern if I’m at war with this greater monsters entity that is the The Intergalactic Spirit of sexual abusers that is all about animated into some multi-headed monster well I’ve got to expect that that it’s going to knock me down a few times before I knock it down and so in that sense if it was the battle but not the war in it and in it and now all of the battles that I lost Stephanie now is that I feel like yeah you were low-level like a larval demonic perpetrators who who who took cheap shots at me when I was barely developed at all like there’s no sport there there’s no dignity for you there now when we go into the bigger Arena the triumphant attitude and vibe that I want to have it puts in a context of like will coup if you were a spider and you and you really got embarrassingly knocked out like in 2 seconds when the first punch in the ring and everyone laughed at you and it was the most shameful and images demoralizing thing you if if you didn’t notice till I get up and fight and win that round but if you quit your career and you walked off and you spent all your you know you if you built up so much of your life to be a career fighter and you just like fold after one loss then that would be the real tragedy but as long as you take that experience and you learn from it and you and you really study the mistakes and you really look at animals saying this to you like I’m not being paternalistic to you but I’m saying like a zit a sexual shamanic spiritual Warrior that’s what I’d the archetype I’m trying to build here let it go let it we let us all have nothing but winning streaks just because I had the shameful embarrassing sexual exploitation kind of Journey with being a warrior that doesn’t mean that I’m it actually is is is life-affirming and invigorating and I believe that we will we will be assembling teams that will make safety and numbers more more of an established more common kind of Paradigm where we just I mean I’ve even joke let’s just what I would love to just walk back to back for the rest of my life with and with other even it’s like two people you could be walking crab legging back-to-back everywhere you go to the SIP to the mall to the store you know to get on the bus to get anywhere just that level of a vigilance will be what my heart craves and then in a group of people you could all be shoulder-to-shoulder and walking in a circle and just linking arms and slowly moving to this treacherous reality and and I would love to have that that level of full-time Vigilant 24-hour rotating watches total perimeter Security on a rape freezone but right now we’re just going to win a world where if you were just in our loan bodysuits and we’re really for its everything is left to chance and Mercy by those who are willing to do to cheat yeah so I don’t know how you feel and there’s no obligation to respond and I just wanted to share with you what what I at this moment would I have what I feel is the most done revitalizing in in NC refund invigorating as this this work on full of so thank you for acknowledging what I had and we’re also sharing your own experience and I hate that that happened to you and that it happens to people and these creditors feel they can get away with certain things and they know that they can because he do live in a society that is permissive to a lot of behaviors and a lot of things are just so underground that I think they like it’s so outside of everything around for many people that they don’t even believe this these types of experiences that we experienced happen or they find a way to to blame the Survivor because that just makes it make more sense to them like I don’t know it couldn’t have been this other person’s fault but it does and I I wish we could all be so hyper-vigilant for each other that this would eradicate all of me demonic slugs how you speak of but what has been super powerful for me healing and tough as well as speaking about it talking about it letting if I’ve taken a few weeks off of my Instagram social media because things have been not very easy another ways my grandmother passed away but I had the next day after it happened happened on October 23rd and so on October 24th I just wrote it all out and I let it be something that I opened the floor to questions into dialogue and it’s so much more powerful for me this time around because I have been able to control the narrative I have been able to control what I’m putting out in the world in this in this way I was violated but now it’s up to me to shift things in a direction where I have some control again because this hardest thing about this assault wasn’t the violating act in and of itself it was feeling so alone like after I kind of I wasn’t I didn’t outright tell my buddy who’s friend had assaulted me like your friend assaulted me but I said yeah he made me really uncomfortable and appropriate your friends and asshole and I’m going to leave for a while so I went and took myself to dinner and I came back to an empty apartment and I didn’t see him until the following evening I’m already in a country where I’m alone and I wasn’t expecting to we’re we’re not romantic with each other at all or just friends but I wasn’t expecting to not have a friend not have anyone there like he doesn’t have any necessary operation to me but it was really hard and I wasn’t until many many many days after the assault happened that I was able to snuggle up to a person I felt comfortable with just being and cry and let myself be sad and but myself start to emotionally process this because after it happened it was just kind of like Warrior mode and okay I let my defenses down I thought I could trust someone out and now I have to just be as hyper Vigilant as I can on my own because I’m on my own for weeks now it’s just up to me and what this brings to mind is I read it fucking High School part of the trilogy by KISS Girl with the Dragon Tattoo Guardian Salter and list of characters such a warrior amazing badass and she takes her revenge in a way that’s also why I finally beautiful brutal and not that that’s what I want to do I wear that’s what I feel I need to feel any sort of Vengeance but it’s me now taking charge of the narrative while letting people know that you can I’ve been an athlete my whole life I’m a strong person pretty emotionally strong I have traveled around the world for the most part really safely and intelligently just doing things on my own but it still happened and you can be really tough and really smart and your defenses go down and words someone abuses whatever crack say find in your armor and it happens it doesn’t it doesn’t say anything about you as a person that doesn’t mean you’re weak doesn’t mean that you’re not good enough it doesn’t mean you’re stupid it just means that this person isn’t a squirrel and they took advantage and they did something that is written wrong and it’s so sad and horrible at this happens it’s something that happened and I think that I didn’t even to talk about it put it out that way and I know because people have have talked to me after I was just really open about it and saying that I don’t feel like I have to beat myself at 4 having that last drink with someone that I felt that was my friend and then getting assaulted by them it wasn’t my fault this person did this to me it wasn’t my fault that I was in this area with I’m protected in some way it’s a set of circumstances that led to this horrible event but this. Other person the person who acted on me made the decision not me the victims not to blame and that’s something that I’m really just trying to emphasize with people who were like I certainly had mostly mostly men say you should have fought him off you should have screamed you shouldn’t have been there in the first place and it’s just repetitive if you can’t equate what happened to me because it was a situation where maybe you would have felt sexually charged being in a room by yourself with a woman you can’t make someone compared me to or compare the situation truck by like if I leave my bike on a busy Corner unlocked and someone takes it like that’s my fault so you being in a room with someone where you’re getting a massage and he’s a man or a woman you sent it is you putting on steak out on the table for a hungry dog like of course this happens like no you when you’re a professional you don’t go into this profession to assault people hopefully you going through it to heal people and if you’re claiming that you’re a Healer and doing something that’s the office that you’re a bad person and it’s not your clients fault that you’re a Apple I think that out of that and hoping to shine a different kind of night on this thing that happened to me I hope has been helpful in some way to other people because at least been helpful for me I’m glad you have a positive attitude and everything you say I’m totally aligned with in some days are easier than others today is a good day yeah I guess I would ask if you comfortable sharing since the the the date of the incident how would you describe the just the like as if you were mine you know I guess what I’m going to I’m wondering is the emotive expressive did you feel like you wanted to do something cathartic in a form of art or expression or did you if you felt like a total void in your creativity or how has how has the more subconscious send more energetic flow and effects been just cuz I feel like that’s doesn’t everybody wants to fix the problem specially man you know they want to get it over with or did you go to treatment are you in therapy now you know who are you dating again whatever and it’s like that’s on the surface of what you think about this order from the cerebral like I want to feel more expensive what coping strategies that you have developed on an energetic level or just you know how your dreams how are your how do you how are you sleeping to the colors of like seem to ebenflow from grayscale you know there’s just the more you poetry of surviving an experience to those are the things those are the guess the neglected aspects of the Arc of violence is like the those unknown language bull currents that that are flowing deeply so I don’t know if you can put words to that or maybe you will put song to that or dancer expressive movement or something to spend the most healing for me has been r y favorite mode is with the written language I write a lot I create a tree and I have investigated my mind and my heart and my spirit and my soul and my past present and future with word reading it for myself I had a cleansing ritual this past weekend where I wrote all nine different pieces of paper something that was holding me past that I wanted to let go of and from letting go what what I want to welcome in something in the present that was not serving that I wanted to release and welcomed something in its place and something that an image of the future that was pervasive in my mind that I wanted to release and replace with something different and it was a day where it was raining gray I had been feeling really bad that we can do is just a depressed not feeling productive for positive about the Future III all type of week now and I wrote These nine different things from three different time Ingles and I have a metal offend I put frankincense and copal resin and I let each paper away fire from The Stick of Palo Santo after I read it out loud and I dropped it in and I did that nine times until I was through with my stack of paper when I let it burn and I stood in this amazingly scented smoke and just let it swirl around me until it wasn’t that it was a smoking so much anymore and I put it out to Washed by the rain and I just stood there I felt like I was letting go of some of the things that we’re really holding me back and I as much meditation as I can do it as much time as I can spend on my yoga mat I was still getting these Cyclospora palliative thoughts of things that were harmful and things that would come up in dreams that were scary and I had the chance to face it speak out loud say it is no longer welcome here not replacing it the things that are positive and from that point forward I have felt a burden lifted and a light in my life shining that has been missing since this happened and also feeling like it sucks to not have someone who I can really turn to on a on a person-to-person level III not to say that I haven’t had friends who are being fully supportive because I have butt not someone that I feel really gets it and it was something we’re finally felt okay I didn’t feel like I was broken or damaged for not having that and I could be a support to Myself lyrics and I could State myself and enjoying my body for the sake of bringing about pleasure and I could and and I hadn’t danced in a while I think yeah I’ve been pretty sporadic that I had really been embodied in movement and all this week has been back in the studio feeling like I can’t get in my body again in a way that’s awesome Tech and not shaking from something scary that happened but just like okay I’m coming back so I have been welcoming myself back with movement and I released everything with word and I’m looking forward to seeing what else I can create what else will come from this what else someone might be inspired to bring forth through this all right I love collaborations and experiments and just exploring these beautiful artistic Realms with others and I’m sure that I will love what comes from this wise words so often you hear the trait kind of Silver Lining glass half-full kiss kind of from nuages and Isabel positive thinking and informations and appreciate the sincerity in in the way that you feel the way that you have it’s it’s it’s a very deep and Redemptive where do you express this in I want to applaud you for having this I hope you can applied yourself for having been that it’s it’s basic knowledge that what your what your your level of clarity and level of purposefulness and and healthy response I is it’s weird because the temptation to cool and sink deep into an abyss that’s that’s really how they beat us you know that’s really what they want and if we stand up to the after effects and we don’t fold in and I keep telling myself on my dude don’t let this triggering moment crush you like a tin can and and if you just don’t let anything crush you like a tin can you you help other people there’s so many canned responses to on all sides of these events in whether they are often ways to just hide from deeper truths or to avoid through formalities just avoid a deeper responsibility of care and I would say that what I pray for for all of us and all the survivors in the past and future survivors that will be is that the culture that will the human culture gets to a point where we we have Survivor leave from work from school from all of their duties that we have do we have families and parents have budget set aside for if these things happen so that a buffer can be created from any financial responsibility for any any give me the time that it takes I I just all I care about for myself as like I would consider a high level of success and wealth just to just to be able to press a button hypothetical button or a magical imaginary button when I need it’s like okay no one needs to know exactly what I’m going through in this moment but it could take a few days or a few weeks or a few months I don’t know but I want to always be able to put everybody and everything on on a on an elegant pause An Elegant hold and don’t worry about me I’m not going to kill myself I just want to go on to cannabis, and meta bait alone somewhere and in the worst thing is is it to me the worst thing is that Guillotine always coming down on my head of when the bills are due how much money is available to me and so is his chronic that hamster wheel ism is it safe to have sex with your sexual abuse trauma Survivor is like you’re on a hamster wheel of razor blades you know it’s it’s not pleasant and it’s not easy to go through the motions of traffic and stress and workload it’s all mostly bulshit anyway you know what I mean even if it’s for a good cause it’s still so wrapped up in 8 hour work days and deadlines and being on your you know responding to emails in like no one wants to get an auto reply that says PTSD meltdown see you whenever by and I certainly haven’t been able to only a few cases only a few chapters in my life have I been blessed to be able to actually sink into the Stillness to actually retrieve the Stihl Parts cuz they’re just right there you know but you’ll never will never be able to slow down enough I mean I don’t want to say the never hear it the way that they’ve rigged this whole reality is it like oh you got you were bolitas and you were bullied and on the playground or well you’ll never have time to actually deeply consider how that affects you because she hears the next thing to do on your to-do list on your pile of things to do at your desk with her to school or work or whatever or you or or becoming a parent and just seeing that I know parents who were trying to recover from all kinds of abuse and Trauma and and it’s beautiful that they have this vicarious Joy A New Hope full refreshing view of a potential for a more safe and Morris Saints I’d life for people care in her present but even that is still takes they still need a vacation to be able to really sink in and it just has hamster wheel Rat Race even if you’re not aspiring to be the most richest most famous most Fast Company fast money entrepreneur and you just are going kind of with the flow that flow is not designed to give us any real deep space time abundance to two kind of connect a bunch of dots and rinses reflects so I just been praying that what if we don’t single-handedly wipe out all demonic parasitic sex demons on Earth in our lifetime that it very least we change the Paradigm of people knowing that okay this this this disgusting disease perversion of mostly male Egos and male sexual sexuality is is not going to go away maybe not go away really anytime soon but our cultural adaptive strategies to it existing can be a lot more intelligent and they can be a lot more and it can be precluded to mean the way that we the way that we can quarantine Ebola we can quarantine this as a culture but it takes it takes a way more in enlightened approach to what we’re going to need to do to to not only prevent possible circumstances and I even would say that something that this is not a game this is about by no means to to for either of us as survivors or to anyone else who are survivors if it’s not too along that line of thinking of of like you’re saying about well that the cliche is asking for it by whatever means that by whatever measure but what I would say is that I would say we are all asking for it when we do not create social sexual containers were there are there are referees for overseeing all every single sexual act that happens between two people because this Cult of private and idea that who’s in order to enter if I want to have sex with this woman I can’t let her know that and some appropriate sort of dance of a way I have to intoxicate her kind of push her into the night late at night so I know when the buses stop running I know when she’s going to have to rely on me for a ride wherever I’m going and it’s like that is the whole modus operandi is that people are not comfortable being sexual in groups therefore they lose the buddy system when when they get aroused and it’s like no you need the buddy system more in bed than you do crossing the fucking Street everybody that we need to be able to say oh yeah naked stuff sure butts grabbed 10 people to hang out and enjoy it with us and then you will be 10 million times less inclined to see what you can get away with because no one can hear the screams or no wonder we’re too far away from you know the light or whatever those those files circumstances are that these that these mostly men are there rape artists and II when I first heard that term I was shocked and mortified and Intrigue they don’t know what they don’t know about how sweeter and better and more gratifying it is to actually earn the affection that you still desire and earn the the the touch that you would like to have or that you would like to share with someone else so it’s going to be a long road ahead for sure and and I’ve got your back and I’m glad that others do and I will say that those are the best and kindest words and most invigorating words that I can come up with an LSA that at this point in our conversation I want to give it back to you to share all of the thoughts and feelings that you feel called too and to also please do if you’d like to share some just words directed at our listeners who will be looking to engage with your work and connect with you online and enough so hopefully offer support and various ways to your ongoing projects and interview going through these These Times of healing and yeah oh you it is it is all you know where some share and hearing I’ve got your back is powerful and invigorating an absolutely kind listening really hot outside what you have gained from this as positive I know it was it was probably pretty tough to hear some of it for many of you and thank you for I can threaten listening I I can turn out no matter what it is your experience think you’re not alone if you want to reach out to me at any time I am accessible yet my social channels on Instagram I’ve got an email on my website and and if you want to throw this up somewhere where your listeners can take away those magical channels please that would be great I am performing around Los Angeles for the next few months until I complete my next. So that I can come back and teach people to teach other people continue to spread this wonderful yummy yogurt business and I’ll be hosting several workshops in the coming months so throw that up on Instagram when dates are finalized but I’m super excited about it and I hope that you are too because it high going to be as authentic as I can make it and really becoming more fully embodied with whatever it is we’re experiencing and yeah I’m I’m here for you I need some of you see this I look forward to it be awesome shoot me a line and I thank you again for having me back thank you yes always welcome anytime and wishing you absolutely the best for you homecoming adventures and now I hope our iPads cross and lsbn touch the name of the book that I mentioned earlier esoteric anatomy of the body is consciousness by Bruce Berger so now more than ever I feel compelled to redouble my studies and my understanding of how to how to move blockages and move yeah move move foreign objects that get lodged in our energy field through these whether they were I’m just getting a visual right now that I guess I want to I want to throw in at the very end of here I’m seeing now like a medical kind of schematic drawing that shows how when it could even be just sexual harassment verbally it’s just like when when an attack or assault happens to to a person’s energy field it’s it’s like there is a a wound surface abrasion it can be just like you know affecting the astral body in a similar way is that they have you no First Responders would know okay is it a burn is an abrasion is it a contusion is it a puncture is it an impalement and these are all terms you know you learn what tools to apply in a first aid situation and to identify them and in all cases if there is a breaching of the outer barrier of the skin the protective layer that key sir organs in our blood and all of our precious vulnerable cellular material however the breach occurs whatever the nature of the breach is it becomes a moment of opportunity for opportunistic organisms to infect that that area and so when I think about the emotional body that he has to about the delicate sexual body the these levels of our being set when when when we get wounded in these ways it’s an opportunity a tragic opportunity for dormant dormant material dormant pathogenic material in other parts of our astral body to sniff that out and to go and try to reactivate themselves it’s an opportunity for just whatever was in the room at the time to jump in I’m bored and to be a stowaway on your ship of your being and there is the introduction of exactly what was a particulate matter of the perpetrator themselves and that can be transmitted to sound waves from their words the creepiness the there’s multiple different categories of infectious material that opportunistically takes advantage of these the weakening of that of of the immune system of our of our total of all these levels are being so I feel like the the duty that we have talking about healing talking about psychedelics talking about orgasm talking about touch and movement as it’s it’s what we’re constantly doing is fighting off these infections and some of them are deeply lives with us and get get stirred up by new trama and some of them are just all around us all the time circling all of us on the subway and on the dance floor and it’s at the bar and say the the Heart and souls of the work that were talking about it were hoping to exude I believe is that were going to just create more and more robust and resilient systems that can be ever purified and will purify the culture and purify ourselves and you know will come back and be reincarnated and do this again and again and again and and just create those light tendrils and let them be less hindered and let the harmonies of our yeah what the harmonies really be sweet and and and beautiful and let this this really vile ugliness kind of get more quarantined in eventually composted yeah absolutely alright then where you have a wonderful night and then just want to put it out there feel free to Lean on Me call text last Christ high fives you’ll be hearing from me all right you have a wonderful deep restful nursing sleep then is going to be late so have a good night thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Tantra Punk. 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Studying Under the Teachers from the Ethers with Shonagh Home TPP174

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In this episode I’m joined again by one of my most respected psychedelic shamanic heroines, Shonagh Home.  She provides updates on her personal and professional journeys since we last talked, we learn about her deep and rich adventurous in modern mushroom priestesshood.

We explore her offering of a Vision Mushroom Practicum audio course and it’s implications for the future of magic mushroom research, clinical healing practices, solo and group rituals/ceremonies, and much more.

We also begin to explore a subject that our next podcast will go into more extensively, which is holistic approaches to healing with foods and dietary paradigm shifts towards more ancient wisdom traditions.

Please visit her website at: https://www.shonaghhome.com

About Shonagh:
Shonagh Home is a shamanic therapist, teacher, writer and poet. Her specialized private sessions and retreats are probing and revelatory, assisting clients to break chronic, self-defeating patterns, and move into empowered personal sovereignty. Shonagh is an international public speaker on the subject of visionary shamanic-spirit medicine, a voice for stewardship of the honeybees, and a teacher on the subject of Traditional Foods. She is author of the books, ‘Ix Chel Wisdom: 7 Teachings from the Mayan Sacred Feminine,’ ‘Love and Spirit Medicine,’ ‘Poetic Whispers from the Green Realms,’ and ‘Honeybee Wisdom: A Modern Melissa Speaks.’

 

Responsible Psychedelic Sexuality with Leia Friedman and Matt Hollander TPP168

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In this episode I’m joined by a lovely couple for a round table discussion on responsible psychedelic sexuality.

We discuss:

  • our personal approaches to consenting psychedelic self pleasuring practices with ourselves
  • how and when psychedelics and other sacred plants are appropriate for them in their relationship
  • the shadow of alcohol and hard drugs
  • patterns of unconscious sexuality of the punk movement
  • sexuality in the neo-hippie subculture
  • the shadow of guru worship
  • cults around spiritual leaders
  • student/teacher sexual dynamics
  • exploitation of followers
  • predatory behavior patterns in ayahuasca communities
  • the dangers of free love
  • ego and peer pressure
  • corruption of those taking money for sexual healing or spiritual guidance
  • patient/client dating time delay requirements
  • examples in other professional sectors of ethics and code of conduct standards
  • sexual political economy
  • boundaries around involving state authorities in restorative justice
  • Psychedelic Patriarchy video
  • incident denial when survivors come out
  • creating supportive space
  • reporting incidents of abuse by emailing: hello [at] psychedelicwomen.com
  • the role of trained mediators
  • can sociopaths be rehabilitated?
  • calling out celebrities
  • accountability, hide or be accountable
  • admitting when wrong
  • the no more hiding now project
  • the logic and morality of triage in emergency response
  • standard operating procedures trained and drilled as a form of preparedness
  • sharing tools for building incident response social infrastructure
  • grey areas of consent
  • potential for redemption of perpetrators through service work
  • personal hard lessons with sexual misconduct
  • functional and dysfunctional investigations
  • gossip, drama, telephone games
  • appropriate scrutiny of public figures
  • compassion for those who’ve fallen from grace
  • the shadow of shunning and displacing perps
  • harm reduction, success stories
  • shamanic ceremonial healing for perps and ex-cons
  • when survivors aren’t ready to bring it to light
  • how people take sides, defend perps, and subvert advocates
  • asking the victim what they need
  • not assuming you know how/when you should apologies
  • consent in the process of justice
  • How Psychedelics Informed My Sex Life and Sex Work by Annie Sprinkle:

About Leia:
Leia Friedman, M.S. is a teacher, writer, and connectress. She is the cofounder of Boston Entheogenic Network, host of the podcast “The Psychedologist: consciousness positive radio,” the integration resource list volunteer coordinator for MAPS, and a permaculturalist. Her work focuses on phenomena related to the human experience of consciousness through the lens of social and environmental justice. Leia is exploring ways to bridge the diverse and multidimensional intersections of psychedelics and ecology while residing at Happy Acres Farm in Sherman, CT.

About Matt:
Matt hollander is one of the founders of BEN the boston entheogenic network, a psychonaut and the singer of the boston hardcore punk band ancient filth. He is interested in the intersection of radical politics psychedelics and non duality.

Please check out their projects:
https://thepsychedologist.libsyn.com/
https://www.facebook.com/nomorehidingnow
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bentheogenic/
https://ancientfilth.bandcamp.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 168 this is going to be a very interesting and enlightening episode I’m joined by Leah Friedman who is the psychologist and she is an adjunct professor of psychology a psychedelic Advocate and permaculture list among many other wonderful beautiful and amazing things that we will learn all about shortly and also one of her Partners in in life and in love and his name is Matt Hollander and he is a psycho nut punk rocker opening bands for 15 years currently the frontman of ancient filth is that correct and he’s been booking shows and doing events and also helped start the Boston and Thea genic Network very interested in the intersection of radical politics and Consciousness and freedom of Consciousness so to give a little bit of background before we get all started with this there was a recent psychedelic Symposium conference in Los Angeles and I felt like I normally would be all over attending but I had some some duties I had to attend to and I felt like you know I feel like I may be at a higher point of Leverage to just connect with some of the presenters look at the people representing and see what they’re talking about and then maybe fine folks of interest to invite on the podcast rather than go and and actually be there in person and kind of broke my heart that I wasn’t there but then I just felt like you know something good will come out of it and this I need the results of that was looking into some of the things going on around that around that event and in the movement and I wanted to check in to this phenomenon of there being sort of research and resources around collecting testimonials about sexual misconduct from psychedelic shamanic practitioners whether they be doing a sort of time for type work or sexual healing type work Hands-On work involving some some psychedelic medicines or just people who are in the second ochimana community and their basic Authority and power than maybe you know consciously or unconsciously of using and misusing in sexual ways and Dynamics and certainly just how patriarchy which is the backdrop to everything how that how that infects and Ben poisons even our best intentions in ceremonies and in communities so a lot to how about that is so you know really what we talked about as the shadow work and you know in and sacred sexuality the shadow work is is uncomfortable but necessary to to deal with and also add two cities are the slipperiest of slopes for sure for sure for certain in psychedelic work and in sexual sexually works I’m always thrilled to have conversations that further this discourse and get people who are her passion in about these issues and then I can’t I can’t think these two folks enough for being so and residents with my personal background were talking about my favorite things punk rock and theologians permaculture you know what what more do you need to peel and save so maybe that’s what we should call Us episode but yeah we’re really doing our best here I would say and it’s just been a blessing to connect and we’ve had some fun some fun talks leading up to this and what we’re going to attempt to do is just have a bit of a round table and this is I think the first time I’ve done this and also it’s a blessing because he is going to on her podcast the second ologies podcast is going to rebroadcast or we could even call it like a punk rock style split 7 in released and I favorite kind of thing so so that was my my typical exhaustive intro and now I’m going to turn it over to Leah to address the audience of her podcasts and we’ll give her it to the floor to introduce well usually to start off my episodes I just I have an introduction which they’re all make an introduction before this so everyone on my show just heard the introduction and I go this is bent on truck say hi that’s really all I do So High by and say hi I am my name is Ben Lawson I go by the name Tantra punk as a stage name and I am your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment and you can find out a lot more about what all that means at Central Park. Com where I have a podcast and I create educational instructional videos and sacred trance dance music and I also come from a long history in the punk rock and metal movement and I have been in numerous bands and him sort of reconciling all this stuff in my at my personal life and professional life and I and I would say that to a degree I am a somewhat semi-professional practicing sexual shamanic practitioner with certain credentials to my name of being a certified Tantra counselor Under the Tent request School in San Diego and I’m also a certified permaculture designer and a lot of other Badges of Honor I suppose along the way but I’m doing my best to stay in service and to stay as humble as possible and integrate as much input from other people because we’re really talking about some of the the slippery of slopes doing this kind of work and I’m so I’m here to kind of be roasted in a way I think I’m open to being roast Temp and life and also to just explore all of our different experiences so yeah so what are you mad do you want to talk a bit about yourself and give us more of your background then we can all kind of kick get going at Hollander GTA has been working with anxiety I’ve also been in the punk rock scene in Boston for around the same amount of time to play Radical politics and non-duality and just trying to understand what is the score find my place in this crazy world we live in if your network of Boston group that brings together people from all talk about how do you spell experiences and support and he can go and and talking where do we hear your band ancient filth on music is on on the bandcamp for free to listen to download and yeah I’ll survive lyrics I got the lyrics vs you would be so kind as to step into the matriarch roll for as long as you’d like you can kind of set us up and start to dry out you know what is most present for for you and your thinking around these topics and then you know I feel like we can just go from there if you’re comfortable with that I would think that’d be great, I mean I can lead I don’t think we have to gender it in this case. I’ve been thinking a lot about consent lately and people in the community ourselves building up our ability to understand what is the S and what is know and I think it’s particularly relevant in altered state it’s obviously relevant in sexual play in sexual experiencing even with the self just that idea of giving yourself consent to go on a personal experience is something I may never have considered but I think that is a practice we should all look at so I think any conversation about sexuality and psychedelics especially those two together have to start with consent and I don’t know I mean been like if we want to do this as just kind of a conversation maybe we could start with talking about that maybe we just talking about what it feels like to be neurotic self-exploration on drugs and no one can tell you that you’re not telling the truth you know no one can no one can contend with it if it’s your own private experience so actually last night I would say I just was coming right off of a of a pretty profound Journey myself so maybe I can do a little bit if I can slam poetry how does that sound when should we start from yeah what you’re saying the very very very rude of consent being a very personal personal thing right yeah yeah let’s start with you and then see where that leads to I think you’re a little on are integration why not what could go wrong I’ve been given permission by the the Hindu Tantra goddess Kali to kiss and tell and she’s definitely a very probably type of creature and loves all the other goddesses and what likes to watch me play with other goddesses in the human and non-human forms and whatnot but I always feel like by coming down from mushrooms with your my drug of choice I feel like I having to face the mundane world and get back into traffic and get back into J jobs all that stuff it’s always a step down from the glory of being in Union with worth it yeah they the sexy dark Goddess that that has been invoked in the jungles of throughout India for since time immemorial mean for going back twenty thousand years at least in the archaeological record the indigenous Pagan hunter-gatherers have been celebrating the the Earth mother goddess and and certainly discovering and playing with the erotic forms and really having a lot of magical ritual involved with that so as a as a white boy in the American West and the 21st century it’s you know the way that I’ve encountered her is been quite an adventure and I would say it’s it’s the if if there is one thing I’m here to do its to correct the history in the Indiana Jones Temple of Doom movie where he goes to school he goes to a Kali Temple and they get it all wrong and it’s all backwards cuz instead of liberating children and slaying demons she is the demoness goddess whose enslaving and saving children and corrupting everyone the only thing they did get right about that movie is that and I’ve had to think about it a lot because it is considered by Hindu Orthodox Hindu Kali worshippers who are worshipping a very demure and very domesticated form of the goddess in temples throughout India and then in homes now they’ve stripped a lot of the wild sexual nature away from her but even the most yeah but there’s a huge backlash of that movie amongst amongst them Orthodox Hindu Kali worshippers because it’s so offensive and so I such a colonized view of the Goddess but what’s what’s so what I found so interesting after studying their critique of that movie that film and after watching it again I realize wait a minute there is a deeper truth that they were conveying here without even knowing it and a lot of Kali worship say all is mAh meaning that even the door even the most Sinister things about her inner nature and you know people out there to sociopath psychopath if you’d look at them as teachers and you know at some level they just need to have the demon whisper come in and tickle tickle the demons out of them so that they can be activated into the light and there’s like a deeper love story of transformation that’s involved in this but if you watch that movie again you will notice us deeper deeper critique that they are offering is that the reason this with all went awry and that the thuggee cult emerge to practice you know they were basically thieves who were worshipping the goddess and trying to extract magical powers from her in a perverted and corrupted way doing human sacrifice and now it really was the problem with that whole picture is that it was all male priests and they they wedged the female priestesses out of the Pagan spirituality of psychedelic goddess worship and they replaced it with the Brahmin is stick hierarchical empire building male priest lead only the priests could speak the language and write the words and they they pushed the feminine out of the goddess and can’t even believe what they did but you see it it’s like oh yeah it’s it’s all men doing this Puja ritual where they’re sacrificing people that’s the problem now if I can come back and bring my love story with the goddess to you know eventually bring Harrison Ford to the Kali temple in Laguna Beach for him to bow down and meet the goddess then we can redo that script and and I’ll be happy to continue that Legacy and in the right way and show her and her Grandma Lori said that’s that’s for the best that is divided that I’m rolling off of after being in Union with the guys last night and I don’t know what that means and he has no one but it’s just yeah I’m doing my best to just go with the stream-of-consciousness oh yeah that’s my that’s my contribution to the self-loving Psychedelic critical component of this convo I feel like it’s a great pitch for like a Trippy porn and I think we should roll with it if it was a joke but it was Indiana Jones and the Temple of poon ticket downtown okay I need to shut up now please next to the same thing and maybe you want to share what were you thinking I did I just have an amazing experience on LSD and MDMA where I was I was there to pleasure it and can you tell us more cat sounds like you’re going to MIT you’re going to do a remake of Stargate with Kurt Russell definitely made my mouth 35th and having the world come all over my face a giant waterfall they don’t call it the Milky Way for nothing right yeah I said once someone and someone ask me actually Rak razam who is highly esteem shamanic facilitator and documentarian end in a conversation about this kind of stuff that we had in the previous podcast know he asked me once he’s like how do you know that Kylie is not a demon how do you know that she’s not disguised in some way and I’m like well the proof’s in the pudding man I mean it’s the samadhi the Bliss that you didn’t you just you feel like you’re on the spin cycle in the cosmic Yoni and you know you feel is so all right how are you so are we ready for Lissa testimonial confessions I hope a lot of Catholic listening in the confession Booth of it’s like the opposite of profane as it gets when it comes to psychedelic trippy and Wild As It Gets for me is I just completely become a plant and I don’t know maybe plants they must have sexual feelings actually with those beautiful flowers that they produce to get bees and pollinators to come inside and pickle them and gather their Harris Teeter their dust or whatever but I haven’t had much sexual fantasy in trip but I know that you know I’ve I’ve struggled I have thrived I mean I’ve gone through my entire life with body dysmorphia and this is like some of my oldest memories of being in a body are dysmorphic of kind of like a wrenched image of myself in this form and when I took LSD for the first time and most times that I’ve taken it afterward I had a sense of being like free and and yet like inhabiting and grounded in my body if that makes sense like being free from it but also like being bully in it and I have worked with that sense because this is what I think is unique in that empty a genic or the altered Consciousness experiences like the ability to access that state of thinking afterward is only just as remembering what it felt like to be that way you can’t necessarily call it in all the time but it’s like the the roads are the roads have been traveled once before I like the the neuronal pathways have at least been touched and so tapping back into that I’ve had a lot of sexual Liberation do do psychedelic experiences of of inhabiting my for more of like of the embodiment so that that’s what I would say to the point I think it is my ability to receive and to be in pleasure comfortably has definitely been helped by psychedelics that’s very interesting and you have a psychology background so I feel like it’s sacrilege to even invoked his name but because you’re a psychologist you would be very familiar with this like what what I hear you describing his brain gives me flashbacks to the brief study of Freud that I had to do in anthropology it was like kind of a sidebar in that in that training but I remember distinctly and it’s kind of triggered by what you’re saying this you know there’s there’s not a whole lot honestly that I agree with you about his is DC to species but one thing that does ring true to me is that notion that sexuality begins before puberty and it’s about just pleasure in the body and how you discover that like I used to play with my belly button and it used to just give me the surges of of overwhelming arrows that no one around me could figure out but it didn’t seem you know cut the logical just seemed like a is better than cartoons why not in that would be a form of self-expression and discovery of a Rosetti that kind of like you’re saying if you know the money. She doesn’t have to be genital Focus doesn’t have to be about friction fucking with somebody or something and can be about inhabiting and feeling deeply into the sensuousness of your whole being and that sounds like a great a great kind of approach to it is that is that ring a bell for you and we want to go off of that with your bring it into the lens of psychology osher yeah well I do think that as that we are sexual beings from the beginning and end part of part of our sexuality I think of a place by the cultural climate that were raised in and what most of which is sex negative unless you’re in some kind of countercultural family or our you’re just not as much as I think to be encouraged to discover and self pleasure yourself or like sexual play among children is almost always frowned upon and and preventing I’m not necessarily advocating for that because there’s like a Content issue again kind of go back to it but then again when gauging in sexual play with little friends that I had when I was five six little other little girls and little boys and or like to close do you know that I understood my boundaries enough to only do things that felt comfortable to me but I think what you’re asking about the experiencing of pleasure I think like there’s a there’s all these different droppers to pleasure for me there can be right like being in a place that but doesn’t feel like the right setting for her pleasure that kind of like Stoppers my ability to experience it or list of things on my mind that I have to attend to like gets in the way of feeling turned on above Like Loving what’s going on and then another thing that would get in the way is body dysmorphia so to be able to access the sense of embodiment with Timmy with useful sexually because allow me to like unstopper the flow of treasury note the to take off the reducing valve for the the sensations that are possible your asthma is sexual partner not feel free to us well that question as soon as we’ve been together and we’ve been exploring a lot of these issues of the you know definitely let you know cuz I you know I think you know like I know most amazing thing in the world and I and so it’s really amazing to be able to you know do you know gorgeous and and really help them come into their body and it’s just it’s such an amazing thing for both of us to experience something like that and do you know but anyway. So you don’t even need a permit you don’t need a license what’s the powerful sex worker goddesses that I’ve ever met she is such a a heroin to me in one of the things that she said which is so apropos this conversation is that she would like to say this the sort of bit of wisdom she had and she basically said you know you can it’s legal for you to go down to a gun shop and buy a gun but you can’t buy my pussy that’s how powerful my pussy is you can buy something but if you go to the Hampshire pretty soon you’re going to be able to buy both with your favorite cryptocurrency so I know that’s funny letter fireworks from liquor stores that are you staying out of that is so great I am so there I’ve had I’ve had enough with everything I just said and I even thought of how it would be nice I like what you said this is important to to know what you said about you we do need those winter months to actually heal and until it’s I feel like the people are running on such hyperdrive in LA because there aren’t it feels like there’s really no season so there’s no introspection there’s no self-reflection there’s no getting close with the family or with the Beloved at it with the land you know being a part of those Cycles so I really do feel like I probably I probably fall in love so much that I won’t care to leave so even if it’s freezing cold because I’ll be around the campfire you know I’ll be around if you know this the the wood stove or whatever maybe so I know it’s gorgeous and it’s so cute really you’re the season Majestic earlier today and not because of smog smog 6% Caucasian but that was a bit of a culture shock for sure Caucasian it turned out which is which also further to the stigma of the same kind of like if there is such a thing as middle class in Hollywood now I feel driving I guess it depends on who’s driving I got there in four and a half but you can get all of the action all of the food everything I could to make sense to to be posted up legally in New Hampshire for so many reasons and then I can imagine it I kind of imagined that it would be the Vegas or or like you’re saying but I’m surprised that there isn’t a more of a booming adult Production Studio house industry given that you could it’s it’s bad. It sounds like it’s about as far as away is Vegas and everyone fled to Vegas when the the kind of life started taking enforceable effects in the LA County area so that’s a question I have for you is it you know if you’ve been following the the regulation around and this sort of the big money the big money clinical groups who are trying to shut down the street on the health but with the health department as a sort of there their battering ram into the industry I’m curious in New Hampshire are they is it is there any specifications from the health department or health code that that are trying to set the rules for the industry for the porn industry there it is it is the Wild Wild West out here we are more people more to join you know start producing they would have to try to regulate but I don’t know if they would because I really don’t think they would I adhere to the same you know guidelines as as far as testing goes the only difference is I need to get tested we we provide them with testing we make sure everyone we we go through this last we have this very detailed checklist I think it was inspired by Nikki Benz and if possible the only difference is we’re not paying Los Angeles or Las Vegas free small company but you know we talked about splitting, according Talent from Vegas and Los Angeles and you know kind of responsibility regulating type of business you just have to have trust that all people are you know I’m doing the right thing around that is because yeah I think that I think like Outlets sexually here you know I said you know if you will actually liberated place like you know I even thought about you some Leaf peeping directed in the professional studio shoot up or down with your spouse just that sounds like a great guy honestly before you even were saying this stuff I could I was just it was a premonition that you would be talking about this because I I just felt like you were going to probably end up working in some capacity with the Chamber of Commerce of wherever whatever region or whatever sort of municipality or me to Sally’s and actually help that like what you’re you can’t you know you can’t afford your Public Works projects you know your new parks are being closed down for whatever reason well here we got the screws it’s going to be amazing yeah I can see it now and start building and I’m almost filling my gas tank to start driving out there right now I can of gas its people have been wanting you know it’s been it’s been on my not just a to-do list but actually really it’s it’s it’s the lot a lot of the stuff is is I can see it happening and also I I I want to if it’s not already being taken for some other obviously a worthy cause I feel like the love Free or Die state is going to be the hashtag that I talk to Subway to get a handle on that it’s all you it’s you if you can take that and run with it if she if it works but I feel like that’s good it’s the best I feel like you have a lot of love but I like a lot of love yeah I know I feel it I feel I feel you said you were a Healer and you seem you seem like very empathetic yeah this won’t this to me you know all of the trauma that I have witnessed that I’ve experienced ice I can imagine that this is would be a place for people that veteran died literally I mean you know they call it in the adult industry we say that you’re a civilian if you’re not in front of you in if you’re not in front of the camera and doing the stuff for on the street or wherever you’re a civilian and so if that’s the case which I really truly believe it is then we need to have VA programs in hospitals in a note and benefits and we’re doing a public service for helping living out everyone’s fantasies for them if they don’t have the courage or the resources to make them happen so for that I like to be treated with this much if not you know as much love and respect and dignity and resources as veterans violence and brutality in Warfare civilians is military yeah that’s cool yeah and we aren’t we aren’t we know we were lying about reliving some sort of childhood, it wasn’t about servitude or Surrender sometimes it was just the process to the session would be the process to get to the Aftercare to get to that hug to get to that approval of being told you did a good job you know and when I realize that I thought there’s so much more I’ve actually I’ve had plenty of clients for a while there it was kind of weird they were widows widowers their wearers like I was attacking little words that were in various ways and people don’t understand that Sexual Energy can be incredibly therapeutic and healing you know when there’s something fundamentally wrong with that especially you know I mean now I mean Dairy mention you know I mean every day and I just kept having these handmade in handmaid’s tale things going through my mind and and now to be apart of Swap and to be keto on the inside track knowing what’s going on with this legislation here to decriminalize effort I am filled with hope and love all over again no more despair or fear I feel like this could really I meant to be alive right now at this time and to be here and now in this state I feel very very honored and lucky absolutely why I feel very honored and lucky that we are having this conversation you were exactly the voice of the representative that I wanted to find and connect with its in this is really an amazing amazing invigorating conversation and I just I just want to thank you again so much and you know we’ve got a little bit of time left I think we covered most of what I was super excited and looking forward to discussing I guess I would like to ask if you want to talk about the kind of support that you need from people in the area from people abroad people anywhere in the world listening to this but what what do you need to help your chapter really get to the to the point where were you have all your dreams are coming true and you know you have the people power and the skill sets what were you what are your pain points and what do you need so that that can just be put out there and it is a prayer absolutely absolutely awesome and I’m sex worker Outreach project is a nonprofit we do accept donations we accept recurring donations donations I mean just to be an ally to a sex worker to be supportive and you know aware that their work is real work and emotionally laboring work to know the sex work as a form of emotional and physical labor and that nobody story is is representative of all sex where you know and I think that the presence of sex workers in social movement come together and try to fight this and you have to fight what gone but it is a tubal refuse up sex workers bank accounts and it’s happened the money seems suspicious that’s unacceptable yeah yeah that’s you that’s the way to to bypass So Many Factors whether it’s the pimp violence or the banks or the state or even Amazon not wanting your wishlist to be you know used for compensation whatever it is the terms that you have to been in bed will I have to say that the my biggest public service announcement for anybody that might be in your network who listens to this is that I really hope that anyone listening who is a sex worker who has the u.s. exposed to these Financial choke point issues invest time in studying the whole cryptocurrency movement starting with Bitcoin and in aetherium but but you can accelerate that process if you start to look into joining the platform of spankchain which is bringing together all of the activism all of the the really Advanced cryptocurrency solutions for being your own bank literally being your own bank where you have peer-to-peer Financial transactions you can sell they will be yeah they will be providing a lot of solutions for the industry and for the producers and performers to be empowered independently and off the rails of the money system we don’t need to do our dirty work without your dirty Fiat is how I feel McGregor’s Outreach project we have like a meme donation thing you can donate cooked difference NFL Karma Dakshin and and how how sex workers are the difference between trafficking educate yourself some people have been looking for what seems like an ideal future to me or all of the the glory and the beauty of the healing in the transformation that is possible and also the the sort of in the streets marches and the activism going to take to get there and a couple of I guess you’re silly but up at the memes have come to me and one is it you know people I remember chanting in the streets protesting Wars and logging and you all kinds of pollution would not the people we would always chant whose streets are our streets and I can hear this echoing Cruise sheets are seeds coming out with our seats and then you can also got allies and civilians involved right thing that ever since I started looking into it swapped but I’ve ever felt like we’ll all of the the Financial Funding necessary to do real political work lobbying in legislation and all that stuff I feel like there’s got to be a way to solicit the the buyers of sex work the purchasers of the material that the funeral of the client’s right of the clients are you so mean maybe PornHub can put a donate button to swap you know somewhere I mean set stuff like that I would love to see the financing for all of the stuff that you have in your bucket list of dreams to make come true for this industry and for this movement that that the money if the people who can afford to pay for their further their fetish or for their experience or for their media everybody and you know what I mean I come from the the green business Eco business startup kind of seen in in LA and it was a no-brainer that you would want to launch your startup having a dollar of every purchase or a percentage of your purpose so that you could have the the pr potential of putting out press releases were you talk about how you give back as a social impact or I mean even PornHub has done a lot of cool stuff like that and I don’t mean to keep harping on them but because they’re the biggest conglomerate really that the industry absolutely and you know that they’re behind them right that I was either going to let my contact continue to be over there in cream to the channel myself because it because you know we can continue and have more follow-ups to this conversation but I certainly would love to explore some of your insights in the industry and I have some yes yeah I wanted to add you know how that Whole Foods you know if you have to you have to be a squeaky wheel gets the grease and House of weird that you were is this is thrilling to me I know that there’s a there’s worse things in the world than having pornstars solicit you on your doorstep like door-to-door canvassing for help me on Monday to take your singing telegrams you know what the my name is you could use the conservative rhetoric against him and say we’re here to clean up the adult industry sign here and give us a check what do you mean well I know where else next workers never would never when they used to pack meat and the muckrakers had to blow the whistle and that’s how we have ratio any conservative how do I I subscribed to say the r word regulation but I will say any sort of public outcry about working conditions that’s all we need you know and Industry within the industry of people like you who know what performers need what the issues are and can represent that and it’s not coming top down it’s not coming from you know sideswiping from weird organizations with too much money trying to push agendas where they don’t belong and some people know what I’m talking about there and some people don’t but it’s what they did with the keywords you know trafficking of course people wanted to sign off on that piece of aeon I support you know anti-trafficking laws of course I do and so what we could do is we could eat give them a dose of their own medicine like you said hi we’re going to clean up your industry and fine hair like that cuz that’s how they do so many things when they say you know that people don’t read the fine print when they when they sign initiatives to get on the ballot you know they read the sort of sensationalist headline that skews the facts to some moral kind of you get boxed in Morley by the by the by the headline of whatever it is and so that it’s it’s like appealing to logical fallacies for anyone to want to do that but yeah I mean this is really it’s actually truly the holiest and most most sort of medic there’s there’s a way for all of the people to I mean excellent performers have the legal space to do this right then then the medical aspect will I think it’s going to naturally organically become a safer environment if you’re not having to be underground in the hide from you know the the filming commission and fucking cops and at the neighbors and you could actually have facilities that work up Captain staff and you know and fungus were like just clean to the places I mean that’s what people say about the all of those secondary crime things that go along with Vice and things being underground and the black market economy you know if when you when you legalize drugs all of those secondary cramps go away and so this is a war on sex and we need to end the war on drugs and the war on sex and these problems will sell themselves in the free market so it’s going to happen New Hampshire you know get ready full medical benefits of cannabis right and I’m actually is for you I think what will happen is that is that is that the Cheeto person will get a reverse gangbang by a bunch of Tantra see the goddess and he will want to transform United States into one giant orgiastic goddess Temple to heal the planet from all the patriarchy that’s my that’s my vote I’m going to put that are you trying to turn me on now I try I try not to but sometimes I can’t help it it just happens thank you for that well yeah so we it’s been one of the most delightful hours of my life at sharing this time with you and I’d like to ask you now to give us the links to everything that you want to share and that you’re involved with and close this out with some final words calls-to-action slogans from the front lines whatever you like to share please take your time. Thank you it’s been an honor and I’m I’m I’m pretty sure my cheeks are going to hurt from smiling too so that’s as wot USA. O r g basically you where you can find me I just would like to do everything I can and vegetation Security building in Albuquerque beautiful thank you awesome alright I see well yeah let’s let’s call it a podcast and let’s be in touch and I will I will be in touch again very soon thank you so much and have a wonderful evening. Smiley and you’re coming over here thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Divine Feminine Leadership in the Age of Social Media with Vanessa LeMaistre TPP155

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Vanessa Lemaistre

In this episode I’m joined by an extraordinary goddess on a path towards high level divine feminine leadership. I was enchanted by her very accessible and down to earth social media posts about shamanic healing and feel strongly that she’ll be able to raise consciousness within cyberspace with her natural glamour and light working skills that she’s continually developing  to take herself and followers to the next level.

Her story of healing and endurance through great hardship is more than enough to motivate anyone to snap out of self-limiting stories, wake up and rise towards their destiny.

Please visit her website at:
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Vanessa LeMaistre is a Spiritual & Soul Empowerment Activist. Her platform provides a self-improvement/positive lifestyle brand to customers who are looking to feel whole within themselves. Vanessa has overcome a lot and believes if she could, so can you. Vanessa is very inspirational and she aspires to inspire. She provides inspirational youtube videos on her youtube channel: www.youtube.com/uareart and on her social media platforms she promotes exerts and positive affirmations from her upcoming book. You can find her on social media platforms such as Ig, snapchat, Twitter under the name: vanessasoulxo which is also the name of her website domain. Her Facebook is her first and last name: Vanessa LeMaistre

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 155 I’m being joined by Vanessa Le mystery and she is Vanessa Soul EXO on social media and I discovered her work first by Instagram very lovely photographs exuding spiritual consciousness and artfulness that is really nice to see a really refreshing in the sort of sea of of people who were maybe not necessarily representing something from a deeper a deeper level of Justice in there you know lovely pictures doing the things out there in the world so I’m always always piques my interest to see people taking it to a higher level and then I even went down the rabbit hole and watch some YouTube videos inside there’s some really important powerful insights that Vanessa sharing a mainly with the video that I would like the most was all about an experience of shamanic soul-retrieval and the people who may have listened to podcast before or into Shamanism what other practitioners or students or or just fans of this sort of movement heard about that and and it’s kind of a really complicated thing and there’s a lot of elements to a but she’s able to break it down really nicely and I thought why not have her on to share that experience in more detail and can I give people more interested in also being just introduction to the work she’s doing and when I get to Taco also about just the the opportunities and the psychology of trying to get a foothold and get it a little slice of the pie in this whole social media new world of opportunity that can really Empower folks and not only the producers but also the consumer to the content just really with everybody up so with all that said Vanessa thank you for being here and please tell us about your personal background how did you get to be in this position you’re in now I’m I was born in Miami Florida and I guess I died but I’ve always been pretty deep but they are usually don’t say this but I feel comfortable sharing it with you that I recently discovered I’m an indigo child I think apparently the stars were lying so basically they figured out if you were at the planets line up in a certain way a lot of people are born when those planets were aligned then they’re mostly indigo’s but the thing with indigo’s is your born with a lot of wounds so you have two most indigo’s go through a lot of adversity from the time they’re born which was definitely my case I was abandoned by my dad I was sexually abused from 5 to 14 and all the pain I had to build this strength and the thing about indigo’s is where natural Warriors because they say we had many past lives going through things so being the child that I was and going through that type of adversity I had to build and cultivate positive energy and finding a way to think positively about life and I’ll say when I was about 21 I got introduced to The Celestine Prophecy which was a spiritual book that really changed my life I want out of this whole journey of spiritual growth and it wasn’t until I went through even more trauma just a box that you I I graduated from college move back to Miami Florida worked at one of the biggest nightclubs in South Beach is making very lucrative money so I would travel to India I got certified as teaching yoga I went on this whole path and I realized I can’t keep working here I need to go move forward with my goals so I moved to LA I lived there for four years and I was starting my self-help book because I really feel like I have a calling on a mission that I want to give back and hopefully Influence People backdating to when I was 21 I did have this guy read my palm for free and he read my cousins, as well told her she’s going to be a doctor at this time she was getting mad now she has her doctorate degree he also told her she can have a bunch of kids she’s a beautiful Belgian baby boy stunning and what he told me was that I’m a shaman and I was like what I don’t even know what that was so now that I’m getting into Shaman Shaman says you already know what the soul retrieval I am planning on taking up Shamanism because I do feel like I have that calling in my life but it wasn’t until I was in LA right when I finished my first draft of my self-help book you know here I am thinking okay I finished my first draft I want to be a motivational speaker I’m ready to take off then I went through like the biggest tragedy anyone could ever wrap their minds around I gave birth to a beautiful baby boy named Camden food literally changed my entire life but three days after he was born we found out something was wrong and when he was rushed to the NICU they found out she was having 96 seizures a minute and three weeks later they discovered he had a fatal disease that she was not going to make it he was going to live for three months backs I was like is this a fucking joke and I’m like what is going on right now so I knew that I had to pull every single ounce of strength in my entire being every bit of knowledge that I gained from overcoming adversity is Too Faced this detrimental thing I was about to face of oh my God I’m going to lose my son so I did that I pulled in every Source I started meditating I was hiking I was seeing a therapist I was doing yoga you name it I was in the battlefield and I was also determined to give him as much love as possible so thankfully he lives for more than three months he looks for full 9 months and he showed me so much his Spirit his energy was just a fighter and there were times when I thought about giving up and I was like man if he didn’t give up why why am I going to give up so that really propelled my journey and took it to another level because I never lost anyone before that I was close to you and this is probably the closest person to me my own flesh and blood and I’ll say that after I lost him I mean I wasn’t even here I was out of it and the past it getting my my life back into a normal state required a lot of spiritual growth I knew once he was diagnosed I knew my book was not done I knew my journey hasn’t hadn’t even started for a judgments were with where I was planning to go in life but I will say that the experience drives me deeper into myself then I could have ever imagined which is why I thought led to doing the soul-retrieval just very intense experiences I’ve I’ve been led to do for healing because it took me to that next level of a human trauma but also a human transformation and learning how to transcend those things so that I’m not a victim of past adversities but I’m more so of Victor and I can Propel my life forward so my engagements are still going I’m literally in the process of building a platform right now not just socially or just through Instagram excetera but but really with the hopes of building something very concrete so that way I can be all of the above a self-help author a motivational speaker inspirational speaker / Heeler because I am on the way to actually getting a master’s degree in a leadership program and Colorado where I will simultaneously be taking Shamanism courses so long with being a Healer I’m also starting a nonprofit in dedication to my son Camden where we can bring smiles and literacy and meditation to Children eventually all over the world well well thank you so much I’m just heartbroken and speechless I can’t imagine that I know that is the loss of a child is considered to be the worst thing a person on Earth can face really in and I I’ve lost people close to me but certainly nothing of that of that extreme nature although I guess the closest I’ve I’ve been is just been in I’ve had been in relationships were there been miscarriages and abortions and so I’ve been through that some tips on the male and which is obviously no nowhere near nowhere even close so I can I’m just sitting with this in and feeling very moved in does it does sound like what you’ve overcome gives you a lot of and for people that has it’s just really a wake-up call for people who are you don’t have petty petty limitations that they’re they’re not anywhere near that that extreme and if you can come out the other side and I like I never heard that that boost words put together so closely victim vs. Victor. What a perfect you’re already on your way to a two-year that that leadership role if you can use those little mind hacks and and get people waking up so that’s really great so if I’m curious what your role at the nightclub what week what was your what was your role at that nightclub bring up in Miami is a city I’ve always been a city girl so I’ve naturally so I started partying on it when I was 17 years old it was very fun it was it was crazy I mean we had every A-list celebrity that club is still going off strong it’s called live at the fountain blue it’s a five-star hotel and they got all the big Heavy Hitters from Kanye West to Puff Daddy Lil Wayne every hip hop artist you can think about the not only hip-hop they do Tiesto and it’s just insane I remember one year for New Year’s Eve general admission tickets were literally $900 and if you wanted to sit at a table you had to spend a minimum of twenty Grand the most I’ve ever sold at a table was $100,000 worth of bottles literally on chest I was feeling like I was not exploiting people but I was partaking in people selling their souls on a daily basis nothing negative to say about the nightclub it was a great experience however you ceased how much there I mean there’s Drug Money there’s escorts there’s guys literally throwing dollar bills in the air and girls going home to sleep with them because they’re popping bottles actually I was very close with the woman very pretty recently and I’m kind of ongoing who was all up in that exact kind of Lifestyle in Vegas where it sounds like exactly the same thing and it just blew my mind I had no idea I mean I assume that there was lavishness but that extent of just the conspicuous consumption you know it would be called in sociological terms in it’s a while so that’s great because I mean one thing that she that made her a very gregarious and very outgoing and Confident Woman and it really I can see the the effect especially like she was kind of managing the the whole stripper her husband was managing managing the strippers at these clubs and there is a lot of just trauma and Brokenness in all of that that sort of financial ecosystem and and she had to come and live with that her soul was kind of wounded by being a part of that that economy in but then she also was able to befriend them in her own shamanic healing kind of intrinsic nature was able to help them kind of threw that stuff so I’m sure you have a do you have a soft spot is a spot in your heart for the bus a single mothers who were in that game or if we’re trying to get out of that game and all that kind of stuff are there was a forty-one-year-old you would never know she was 41 but it’s all she knows so absolutely because I do think what you said you had a really good point a lot of those women I mean even including myself a lot of them were victims of sex abused or they feel like that’s the only way that they can validate themselves in a sentence to some degree or that that’s the only way they can get lucrative money when in reality you know women are not only sex body parts but you have a brain or like you said you can be inspiring you can have a message and I think a lot of women don’t necessarily know that especially in our society when we are taught that we have retro living in a society where is over-sexualized in a sense so we’re kind of taught that that’s all that were were when really it’s so much more all right well so do you want to talk about your experience with the shamanic soul-retrieval that was was a pretty recently or girls with a shaman the first one was not a soul-retrieval I just went for a regular healing in Miami Florida about 7 years ago and that was interesting where she kind of pulled up into my chamber of the wounds that she picked up that I was sexually abused from like many many many lifetimes this was like a repetitive thing going on and I was like oh my God you’re right cuz I didn’t tell her anything about me and not only did she pick that up but she also picked up who I really am which I believe we all have this within us what our and vision is for a true selves so she was able to pick up that truly what I am is a queen and I believe truly we all are kings and queens but the fact that she was able to pick that up in the midst of the Chamber of wounds I thought was very fascinating now this experience that I recently had with the soul-retrieval was very very intense and a very beautiful experience the lady when I met her she said her name is Costanza Morningstar over here in Silver Springs Maryland she asked me when she met me why do you want to do this and I told her I don’t think anyone doesn’t need healing on this planet I don’t I don’t care how old you are I feel like everyone is gone through something where they could heal from and a lot of people’s personalities in that sense actually went while driving and road rage but for me I I just knew that I had a lot of Hang-Ups and a lot of other traumas that weren’t as may be a severe is my big lifetime adversity is that that kind of left me hung up and I knew that I didn’t want to go forward with that just hanging there so I actually meditated on the things that are why is it sealed prior to the soul-retrieval session with her and one of them was a previous best friend who supposedly spent 20 grand on a curse like a black magic curse on me and it was something that I’ve it took years to forget it was coming up but it was just always in the back of my mind and I really wanted some help cutting up that cord if that makes any sense and I wanted to retrieve the part of my soul that I knew I lost from that experience because not only did I lose the best friend I lost a part of myself and that was just one thing you know losing my son’s father he wants me in the middle of my pregnancy and and married his ex-girlfriend so I knew that wasn’t hang up I wanted to retrieve my soul from so there was a couple of these things I meditated on and she was like Wow Vanessa I think because you took the time and I would recommend this to anyone doing a soul-retrieval is to take the time to meditate on what you want to heal because that’s exactly what’s going to come up in those parts of your soul will come back to you during the retrieval so I walk in I tell her these people ain’t I tell her a little bit more about myself and she’s like okay well I’ll just stay open and let’s get to it be every Shopkin has Spirit helpers that work with them and the point of this experience is when you go through a trauma a part of your soul leaves as a defense mechanism I know for me many parts of me left going up because I had a best friend say Vanessa how can you just block things out like that and it’s because it’s not cuz I had a superpower is because as a child certain things I went through we’re just too intense I had to tap out but every time I was tapping out and blocking those things out that was my soul leaving to it to feel stays so what she was able to do was she was literally able to grab those pieces back because according to her when they leave you there actually being healed their healing themselves so she brought those healed pieces back to me with certain good and for me it was a lot she retrieves five different soul hearts and after the fifth one she told me her spirit helpers told her that’s enough for today cuz it was just too much so she started off with me laying on my back and she was doing her chanting she was dancing to her Spirit guides and animals you were helping her and she was taking notes in the middle of her session the power went off completely and she couldn’t really function appropriately because she needed some music so she had to do it with her mouth she improvised but it ended up working out fine I swear to God by the end of the session the lights all came back on it was like perfect timing but one of the gifts that she did mention was that for example when my son’s father left me the gift that thoughtful part brought back to me is to learn to love myself again because they’re edit it kind of makes sense when he left a part of me felt like I didn’t know how to love myself like oh my God what’s wrong with me you know why did he abandon me so that was empowering another Soul part that came back to me was my five year old self that was the first age I was when I was sexually abused and although I was abandoned by my father at birth she said from the age of five to seven my inner child felt very abandoned and I’ve I was crying hysterically when she said that because I didn’t correlate that I just correlated my experience with oh my God I was sexually abused I didn’t realize that wow I needed I needed nurturing I needed someone to talk to me so I wouldn’t feel so abandoned and alone but the gift that that 5 year old child brought back to me was the gift of moving forward and not feeling stuck moving becoming allowing myself to be truly independent which also makes sense if you think about someone who feels abandoned they might not have the strength to move forward and feel independent and autonomous and they’re being so it was very all of the gift she brought back to me were extremely empowering and and to be honest she knew that I couldn’t leave right away she’s like I want you to just seen a look around the room integrates all of this that just came back to you and she she warned me that I would feel a little drained or I might feel very energetic because she brought all this energy back into me and to close out her session she proposing a lot of Divine Light because she’s pulling so much back into your being that she has to fill it with white Divine Light or else she says anything can just take home your body which obviously you wouldn’t want so the next couple of days I noticed that I was very out of it and drained and the weirdest things are happening two things one I was getting a little moody in like very very very Bitchie and I wasn’t sure what was going on I felt like it was some residue from just past issues that we’re coming up in and kind of expelled out of my body and the other thing that was happening that was very beautiful is I started to feel more of my spirit inside of me like I literally started to feel more full and that’s the best way I can describe it and I’ve read different articles that say these things take months sometimes or weeks or even years you’ll just keep feeling yourself become more and more integrated more and more whole it was definitely fascinating and honestly I want to go back for more because it seemed like I had more parts to retrieve but that session was just enough to do 5 that was more that was like a Max for me that day so I do plan on getting another session done future well I love the way you talk about this it’s really is I’m just stuck in Imagine women eventually getting their nails done or their hair done at the beauty salon and then started talking about these experiences and it’s and it’s as normal as talking about going to the auto mechanic for a tune-up or an oil change so I didn’t know I thought I had it all back together but there was a whole other chunk missing and misses work that’s a good thing because this is the first time I’ve really heard the narrative that you’re saying about how they’re getting healed and they’re heading to bring back a gift and it’s it isn’t just the the dreary side of Ono these horrible things happen and wouldn’t it be nice to be whole again but if you can actually have a some additional benefit a sort of prize for your suffering in a way then that’s even more incentive to want to take this stuff seriously if you know you might you might actually benefit and have unexpected you know value come back either that means another another girl so glad you brought up the importance of sort of ceiling the container if you will because yeah if your it’s almost like you just had open heart surgery and if you don’t get bandage properly you stay open for infection so so with that gift I think I find it very fast and then she brought back was that now I’ll be able to trust friends and friendship and I’m honestly noticing myself just being more social letting people in a little bit easier getting and it’s honestly helping me give love two people more easily instead of like cuz sometimes I think if we get hurt by people it’s easy for us in the back of our minds stay ready just presuppose they’re going to hurt us or if that person is judgmental when we really haven’t given them a chance but I’m finding I’m doing that a lot less and I’m just more easily giving love two friends that’s awesome yeah I know I’m a big believer in the power of overly just that everybody everybody’s kind of constantly cursing themselves and others very unconsciously and not usually with too much skill or Consciousness books so that’s pretty much what we’re having just constantly complaining and judging everything and and they’re putting things down and everything have to be somehow beneath us to protect ourselves from really taking responsibility to think so you know when people take it to the next next level and then start actually hire professionals it’s it’s a much bigger practice throughout other parts of the world and here it’s not so but there it does exist and and and for people to take that very seriously that’s a huge part of you know maintenance and self-care is to just do the cord clearing cutting loving or you want to call her so would you think you’ll be doing any like as you start studying and stuff more doing videos where you just kind of give daily tips or self-care basic shamanic the next video I do on YouTube will be about my inner healing but I’m doing lately it’s just been getting very intense in my meditations and just even learning the art of Court cutting she I was doing it a little bit before but this Sean and specifically specifically helped me do some more concrete cord-cutting for example and that practice alone I feel like would be great tips to share and just even the things I’m discovering my in my medications or things that people are sharing with me this might be a little extreme for me to go into topics fully right now but there’s something going on in in my left eye since my son was diagnosed and it’s very energetic so I can’t really find too much information on it but about two weeks ago a woman sent me an article on Shamanism specifically with a practice for healing the left eye and I was like so I just think that when anyone is open to that inner healing Journey things to start coming your way with tips and tricks and synchronicities where it’s just that the other perfect timing type of thing so I will definitely go into descriptions and tips with feelings that I’m fighting for myself because it’s definitely a focus from me right now is healing and I know that from watching other shamans they’re at their point is to kill them quickly and fast so they can start doing the work on others because they know that they to need to heal before their linguistic programming practitioner and he was able to defeat phobias and interrupt patterns of people’s long-standing neurotic sir loops and their minds that had just been crippling them and it’s interesting because a lot of the shamanic techniques which are even more more deeply rooted in traditional cultures and have more of a track record than then even modern you know psychological hacking techniques but as busy as real as I know those are it’s also if you can connect someone to a spirit animal while they’re on stage in front of a thousand you know 10,000 people and then they have a revelation and that’s proof in the pudding and that’s really good for yellow building that kind of leadership and and it’s not it’s not giving key if you can change someone’s life and you know really make a difference to see something like that Bakery I’m so big on power Danimals to I just leave everybody has them and they’re here for where is and and it’s such a unique personal Bond the way the strommen constanza describe it to me she said do you know they’re not it’s it’s it’s like a real pet it’s really you know how you bond with your dog and they become like your best friend that she’s like that’s what all of us have with our power are power animals in our are animal totems when they show up in our lives for us SCI Greene with you how do you and your conception at this point of just the role of Spirit guides DUI I guess I have my own my own personal relationship my own opinions I feel like for the most part they’re trying to communicate like if you’re not actively if you’re not actively developing rapport to to connect with and speak to and listen to them in in in NB Fielding in new insights and they’re going to have to just throw you hints by any means necessary and it could be like making you trip and fall so that you see something from word on the spray paint on the wall and then that gives you a little but they if they if you don’t give them a voice than they will just do their best to eat to get in a word in edgewise and it will certainly be unfriendly guys who are trying to subvert your path and there they will be way more in charge like driving you know I’m driving the ship the ship for you without question is so do you want to talk about the bit about your yeah that stepping into that awareness yet you my relationship with them but Aldo their new it’s been very intense and a very strong bond I’m building with them I used to want to learn how to connect with them so badly and I wasn’t getting answers I wasn’t sure how to do it if it was working and the more quiet I got the more okay I became with tuning into the inner world the more I realized it’s actually just happening and for me for example I just started getting very close to one of them named Alexandria a woman who I had a psychic once told me that she’s living through you vicariously because she’s had different lifetimes where she was abused but she knows how to have this tough badass attitude even though she was abused and she’s like a warrior goddess and a friend of mine suggested it’s good to set up an appointment time kind of how you would meet with your friend let’s say you’re meeting with Joe and you’re like Hey Joe let’s meet up at 4 p.m. at Starbucks so I tried it with her and I was like okay 11:30 I’m going to meet up with you and I were making some mugwort tea and I lo and behold forgot the time but when I look it was literally 11:30 on the dot I was like okay and when I close my eyes I was able to Envision her clear her body clearly she was tan skin long hair curvy but beautiful and she was about my size and from that moment on for the next couple days I swear to God I kept looking at the time and I was always 11:30 p.m. or I would just get beard to look at a sign and it would say Alexandria which is how I knew that’s her name and so building that rapport with her specifically has allowed me to understand more the Dynamics of dealing with my other Spirit guides because we we all have more than one sometimes I think I’ve heard that we can have just like one for dominant one in our lives depending on what’s going on but usually we have more than one so I’ve been connecting with different guys like the guy who I believe gives me wisdom and I don’t know if you smoke marijuana or not but sometimes if I’m smoking or even if I’m not smoking out of nowhere it’s like boom and invite will come through and I know it wasn’t thinking about anything but all of a sudden. Just dropped out and it seems like thin air but really that’s your guys giving you information and what job and so I’ve learned to pay attention to those cues for example if I’m not thinking about something beforehand and all of a sudden and insight comes I know it’s my guys or being looked like you said it’s some people might have to trip and fall to see the sign on the billboard but sometimes if you’re just driving and all of a sudden you look and you don’t know what made you look to the left at that billboard those are your Spirit guides and same thing with the animals I literally recently stopped eating meat cold turkey because I was connecting with beer and ice how do you do that how did what do you mean how why would you stop eating meat because of that explain to her that I feel like we as human beings are sold and so are the animals they have souls inside so I feel like if we communicate on we send send messages to those Souls they pick it up I was just driving one night and my bass was bumping really loud and the deer was just looking right into my soul and we literally had a moment and I could feel it was understanding every single message I was giving chew it so from that moment on I was just like no I’m done with eating me I’m just I’m done and Deerwood keep showing up in my life and it really becomes this beautiful bonding experience where you know that they’re connecting with you because because you feel the joy you start feeling happy you know that the Sean actually suggested to dance to your animals because the Spirit guides and animals date they want to have human experiences so I know some people give offerings and she said if you dance then they’re going to dance with you because I really really like engage Man in The Human Experience has been doing that lately and leaving offerings for whether it’s goddesses that are coming to my life at the moment or that I’m connecting with and I just start to feel close to them and it’s beautiful because you realize that you don’t need to have them physically here and they can be kind of closer to you then if someone is physically there with you it’s really fascinating and it’s it’s me it’s like a world of trust but also such a beautiful beautiful spiritual experience are you telling me that you don’t just sit around watching Netflix all all the time and all your free time you’re actually engaging your own life experience and directing your own life movie that’s why I stopped watching TV so long ago I’m just not into TV and I think it’s great you know anything’s wrong with it and just yeah there’s more spiritual things you could be doing that’s kind of just the meantime if that is your lifestyle I hopefully your Spirit guides will help you select the films that you need to get you like The Celestine Prophecy is actually film to so everyone starts over there at in in in yeah I do actually I’ll say a very grateful to streaming media because that’s how I’ve really built a lot of my education there’s so much so many people like you are out there making content now that you can actually access it even if you are totally plugged in and you’re not really exercising your own reality staying so you know there’s a couple things I want to thank you for for bringing up definitely the the spiritual bonding with animals is a huge factor that comes out and and I love that you were bringing up the I’ve had very many similar experiences of of being happy my attention and my focal point be directed without my conscious designer our awareness and just all the sudden I’m at you know something in the periphery of my vision like I could be reading something on the center of a screen and then then like you said all kind of feel this also the sort of jerk or it’s not like a uncomfortable it’s just sort of immediately brought to awareness of all of the numbers on the clock being the same 555 11:11 is just as soon as I just feel like it’s it’s always has a reminder that there are other beings who are either either perceiving reality around you through your eyes somehow or is there and they’re sort of connected through like a Wi-Fi or Bluetooth looks like they have your eyes they can do it yeah and so that’s one way to knowing that the actually that started happening for me more than ever after some soul retrieval experiences so I kind of feel like it’s they want to help you not be a skeptic and not doubt when you have profound experiences they will be like see there is more than meets the eye and ear will keep moving it’s oh so you don’t lose Faith at school can I hook it up yeah it’s going to be shy at school so do you want to talk about what you have planned what you’re you know what you have from just now that you’re kind of a I mean yeah what would you decided to integrate this stuff and then become do this leadership training and get a master’s degree as his awesome so what do you what do you for what are you serious or your longer-term goals with all this said that the program is interesting because it’s it’s environmental base which they were explaining the importance of of our star spiritual responsibility to connecting with the Earth because it’s alive and how everything is intertwined with that and not only is it environmentally base its social justice based which I think is also our due diligence and responsibility to connect with on as as every person and taking that personal responsibility so I’m really looking forward to that experience especially because it is out of spiritual School although it’s accredited the founders Buddhist the students go to school Barefoot if they shoes it’s very non-judgmental and I’m really fascinated about it because the whole school’s consensus is about diving into yourself and connecting with others and and having the rock courage to do that and really being able to pull back the layers which I think are all very important to learning leadership skills and not only for yourself but also with connecting with others and the specific program is called resilient leadership because it’s about sustaining an organization because anyone can start an organization but can you sustain it can you keep a resilient so for me I’m I’m finding this as being something beneficial as I Propel forward and really build a platform for for myself as a African American descent female who’s trying to be an inspirational speaker and that’s that’s a platform that you don’t go to school for you can’t just you know wake up and say okay I’m going to start speaking in that it’s as easy as that it’s really a lot of working a lot of building so I’m really excited about that and as soon as I move to Colorado next week I’ll be actually taking up something what you’re doing I’m taking up a tantra healing practice wear according to them they say it’s non-sexual I’m I’m going to be a Nubian it and learning the healing modalities of Tantra but according to them they said it’s mostly energy healing through the chakras and their just calling it Tantra so maybe you can explain a little bit more share a little bit of that because that is what I’ll be diving into as soon as I got there actually is perfect saying only synchronicities yeah me too to just put put a little note out on on my thoughts on this site I think the best the best way I can share the reality of proportionality of sexuality in Toronto training is really that the sex chakra is 1 of 7 so that’s the 7th of the total picture of your total being and if if the goal is to Inn in the neotantra we’re young people often criticized the modern Western use of the word Tantra because it has become hyper sexualized and even when the intention is there among Steelers and in teachers to have integrity and and hold the the bigger full seven chakra & Beyond sort of bigger picture of what it means to be spiritually healthy and have sexuality not be cut out of that and not and not be ignored it’s like it can be over emphasized and then people can get stuck there where they can get abusive there and certainly with so much trauma healing that needs to happen there’s a tendency really a foul and vile tenancy for unpeeled people or people who are kind of not fully conscious and they become susceptible to forces that will literally possess them to to to create more wounding and deeper wounding in those trauma healing state so it’s them it’s it’s it’s the biggest tragedy in the biggest sick kind of irony so I have a lot of respect for the people who are distancing themselves from those patterns and I know that there’s three it’s just so hard to tell me every school has has different light and Shadow about it and you know what my biggest I guess my for me I feel like the what usually is a safe the safest bet is to work with for women to work with women to heal each other using tantric techniques to connect to the router on Shakti to connect to their own Durham Kundalini and tonight not associate that activation of their own Divinity with having sex with a guru you know that that’s Austin what gets conflated is that in light sexual Enlightenment happens when a woman goes to a male Guru either in India or somewhere in the world and pays them a lot of money instead of the sort of like even you know him and so yeah I say if you’re bypassing that all together that’s a good a good thing because often it ends up being a bad story and then for people who especially women who are sexually traumatized you want to experience the sexual Liberation that comes from the tantric practices than there are I have you know a list of the women who I respect most throughout the world who were doing this work and we’re really Vigilant about how male energy comes into the space if you know if and when it’s appropriate and I feel like there’s a better the most glorious path with is when sexually wooden people pick up the tools amongst trusted you know facilitators and instructors and then once the healing his start to really happen and you start to grow a mature then then it’s appropriate to go and share that energy with other like male Masters or male practitioners who who are not going to be like way above a person’s level like if you think about a lot of the the women who were like we were talking about strippers you know in general and and not to put them down or anything but if if they have not been formally educated because they had to start working the streets or working the club’s when they were supporting their family cuz it came from poverty and you know if there was never a chance to really grow academically intellectually in that sense and and if the the sexual maturity is that of still pandering to and pleasing the abuser because it’s the only attention you’re getting then even if you’re 30 years old or whatever you may not be you still may be operating from a very juvenile mindset and that goes for men and women I mean I I came from a male sex worker background so I know I’ve ever experienced the same thing I mean you can be stuck in your development and if someone who is a higher level of spiritual sexual Mastery comes along and it literally takes advantage of your vulnerability then I consider that to be as culpable as actually abusing children because in a sense that’s spiritually that’s where things are at so people can come up and really ethically develop themselves in the company of other trusted people wear that Dynamic really is precluded then it’s kind of the more glorious thing is that you can graduate from those kind of human experiences in and have the initiation of experiencing the Tantra goddesses and the tantric deities and all that good stuff and then from a more healed place then go and have fun and share that share the energy and make sure you know you’re not being drained and by parasites and vampires out there that’s my public service announcement about Martino work what you got to watch out for but it sounds like you’re going to be and I know it’s the last thing I would say is it a lot of people have bad experiences with tantric meetups with Tantra Masters are schools and what time it’s really I feel like you got to give it you got to give it at least a handful of different try to go to a handful of different people and places and experience different modalities before you make a full judgment about whether or not it’s right for you to even pursue anymore because you never know you know you might not get the best experience right away but if you do that they’re due diligence oh yes oh that sounds cool you going to move to your moving to Colorado for a training or yeah tell us more about that but simultaneously so part-time while we doing is energy work I’ll do I’ll learn Tantra healing modality and then on the side I’ll be learning Shamanism so I’ll be able to incorporate both modalities and grow grow on my path as I keep going as a Healer and really just learning to cultivate giving and and doing my Dharma I truly feel like I came to helping spirit so it’s to me it is about service and and contributing and ways that I can to to help someone evolve and really really heal themselves so I’m really excited about that and my book I’m I’m also going to be working on finishing my my final chapter of my book which will be coming out the end of this year were most likely the beginning of 2019 which if my schedule is not too crazy hopefully I can go and book stores you know so I’m really excited about all of these Endeavors that are finally growing because I planted the seeds 45 years ago and I’ve just kept going and going and going and I I just have never given up and and for me giving up is not an option it’s just to keep propelling forward because to be honest I feel like there was a big blessing and in Camden coming and leaving it’s kind of like well man I feel more of a more more of the determination to come here to fulfill what I came here to fulfill if that makes any sense I feel like we all have a burning desire for something and for me it’s these goals that I have that that I’m really that are really starting to sprout right now so it’s definitely like a sprouting season for me right now but it’s like the little buds are just starting to sprout if that makes sense so it’s very exciting so I knew there was something more than meets the eye when I saw you an Instagram again I just feel like I have all these all these different people in my feed coming through I’m just sort of studying the the effects on culture of this new medium we’re really unlike ever before and I’m old enough now in my late thirties to Remember When there were actually try to think about it now I when I was when I was growing up even around getting through puberty and wanting to be sexually available in sexually expressive and all of those things and just being like it cost a lot of money to go and buy film for a camera and then you take those pictures then you have to go and wait for like a week to have it developed and then who is ever going to see those pictures you might put them in the album they might go on a shelf but there is no way you’re not going to go around to everybody in the school and say hey like we’re going to spend imagine how long it would take if if the level of rapid and even things like Snapchat now so it’s in it’s such a it’s crazy but that’s I guess the hope is that if if it’s going to just be the soup of insults and shaming and bullying and there can be just wherever the light can shine through it can have a big big impact because it’s and it’s going to be needed so you know we can’t walk away from it the fact that we can do all this now you know how it sits and then you can be a magnet and I will say that you know if it if it doesn’t offend you you know for me to to speak in this way I think it’s just because it’s an academic study for me at this point not that I don’t have some like sort of you know I’m still have the stream of images and and they’re all triggering different parts of you you know to see all of that guy’s got bigger muscles than me or that that’s the woman of my dreams and I’ll never even meet her and you know they’re so fancy and I’m whatever you think you’re going through a million of these of these sort of a cycles and I it’s what you know everybody is kind of anorexia or this dysmorphia from social media where they call it like social upward compare or what it comparison or whatever and you know two to be an Angelic force in that realm and to be someone who you know I’m striving to be at if I could get really really fit then people will listen to me like fathom that I guess that’s just how it works though. That motivates me to do more push-ups or do whatever it takes because then it amplifies my voice you know what it is it’s just that is what it is if I was just too thin you know Yogi out there with a giant beard you know after the mountains may be a few people might come and make a donation and and listen to me kind of Babel or something but but if I can actually get out there and compete with all these people who were poor so influential then so be it and so you know when I see the this interesting the sort of hourglass Obsession in media now which is changed from the very thin model the very Western white no features no curves Paradigm and how that shifted to a much more goddess figure or traditional and is so I feel like the as much as we’re living in the patriarchy the fact is if you look at the numbers on the social media is kind of printing out the true reality that everybody is still actually worshipping the voluptuous email for him and so to be able to and then you know I don’t I’m not missed I feel like there’s a place just to study I’m not going to say what is right or wrong for for whatever but I will say that when I look at the numbers and do the math the people the women who are the sort of exuding that that that figuring out are the ones with millions and millions and millions of followers and I look at some of their profiles and it’s been ages have 10 pictures of Wonder at the beach another one there you know at the gym and other one there at the club and end in your legs is a fake profile as someone just scrape these images and put it together because if it’s that easy ones going to hire a few models that that look like that and then I’ll put chakras in the background of their picture I’ll put you know some shamanic drumming thing going on in the picture and that will just sort of but know some people that sleep for real and doing it so I see you’re you infinite growth potential in that direction and and I’m I’m going to yeah just energetically and and it’s some point hopefully financially be supporting efforts type of people like you to actually you know you’re you were in the in the eyes of the masses that the low-hanging fruit that’s actually potential to really fertilize in in in four people so that’s my analysis is no that’s my analysis so far but how do you feel about that yeah do you do you sense that you I mean just I love to hear I’m very curious since I have these out of it and I’m like window shopping for souls to build alliances with and then night you know from your perspective you’re actually your enchanting people with your likeness and is doing the magic so what is your experience like and what do you feel this like you were responsibility there and in all that good stuff. And you really hurt so many great points and a great observation I feel like I’m by Nature I’m not a competitive person so I don’t believe in competing with others so I haven’t really too much struggled with a hole comparison aspect and I’ve had girlfriends who I overheard many time say oh I try to stay off of it because it makes me feel bad about myself I start comparing you know why am I not a stand why is my waist not as thin why is my but not as big and I feel like that’s also an easy Rabbit Hole to fall down into if you’re not conscious or conscientious of your worth and Anna of the beautiful aspect of being able to have this Liberation to express yourself in your own authentic way I do feel like the the portal that is a bit available to us is so empowering for the female species because because it can go to different ways we can either be shamed for it which is something growing up in a Haitian Family household I was always kind of shamed for dressing quote on quote sexy but for me it’s very liberating because I don’t have a family that I need to worry about telling me Oh that’s too revealing I have the freedom to to post whatever it is that I want to post and I think I love those pages of women for example who are just being Rebels and there they have their titties out and they’re breastfeeding and they’re saying you know it’s kind of like feminism because we are feel like the amber rose slutwalk for example we have the right to look as sexy as we want and not necessarily have to be shamed as being a slut so I find that is very very liberating and I feel like a specially when a woman can tie into the deeper level underneath that sex that sexy for example whether it’s a message or whether it’s chakras or and even if it’s not something spiritual let’s say her messages just being fit and healthy I think combining those aspects is so empowering for others just to look into so they can find out within themselves that’s music to my ears and so what do you feel like are some strategies are our plans or or did you are you thinking okay I’m going to like if you would like to see you still you continue to grow in your audience grows how how do you plan to feed them and nourish them and nurture them and I guess one thing I’ll start with this are you have you have you or will you do talk about your tattoo on your back that’s a pretty so yeah so for me I’ve always wanted or recently in the past few years I’ve wanted a back tattoo of the Goddess Isis or originally known as offset who Cleopatra he’s used to actually worship her and they say she’s the daddy of of the true Virgin Mary that the Europeans stole and called the Virgin Mary so because she three days prior to her so with that image on my back I had someone recently asked me if I think that tattoo was a healing tattoo for me I cannot even explain to you the amount of messages I’ve received from getting that tattoo that’s far from Isis I am kind of briefly but I had a dream recently where I had seen a woman with a back tattoo of Isis as well and I sent to her I said battle I love your tattoo license you have one too she starts crying and she goes oh my God I’m going to get emotional right now because you’re starting to see that I am her and I didn’t really understand what that meant but moving forward in my dream it gets really adventurous and my brother in real life was actually visiting me so he was sleeping on a mattress on the floor and on my windowsill in the dream I look up and I see a stuffed bird the bird starts moving with all this mystical music in the background and it literally slowly comes right into my mouth and goes inside of my mouth I didn’t swallow it but it was stuck in my mouth to the point where I tried waking up to get my brother’s attention I’m like trying to call out John John but I couldn’t talk and finally I woke myself up from the dream but later on I started to realize that the dream was symbolic of me really ingesting and taking Goddess Isis into my very being which I feel we all have the capacity and ability to do with any previous god or goddess and so for me with the images of my strategy is so I actually do have a big speech coming up this Saturday in the monument at Washington DC for a cancer that now it’s only a five CH however I am so honored to do this because I want to inspire people who are fighting with cancer we’re fighting with anything kind of how you said well it makes people put their Petty problems into perspective not saying cancer is anything Petty however I feel like if you have the opportunity to fight that’s a blessing so my goal and my strategy and enforce were mainly speeches that I plan to do moving forward is to be dressed as a goddess because I feel like we need to just break the trend be a rebel do something different I feel like they use the world they need something different so anything that we can do to step outside of the box I think it’s amazing and so for me it’s really tiring and creativity and and The Feminine Divine Essence of the goddess and it’s really to allow people in the crowd whether you’re a male or female to connect with that goddess or God within you because that’s just an archetype that we all possess well that’s so cool right that is so next level now this is what we need and everyone is so hooked into the Marvel Comics superheroes and that’s that’s really what the mythological deities were all about I mean to embody the the highest virtues and to the stolen with powers and if we could you know be aspiring to to hold that the vibration their costuming it’s you it’s magic it is it’s the easiest if I want to say well maybe that’s the easiest cuz it’s a lot of it is so ornate and in so much effort goes into but I guess if that’s it for the most undeniable transformative magical effects is just well I mean look at all the cartoons and even the when I all the things I bonded with He-Man and robot talking robot Car Warriors and you know it could be anything so yeah please and it’s not just cause play either even though that’s cool but if you can really be doing invocation and say yeah before the speech I did a little ritual ceremony and brought invited you know someone that looks like you’re introduced to the speaker introduce you and you introduced the guy that says he speaks well that is so exciting and it feel like you’re on to some great amazing things and do you have any other thoughts feelings device you want to share as we come to a close here and certainly shirt out of the best whiskey will get ahold of you I hope you will you don’t have a real duel links ready and all that good stuff what kind of dog is the only advice I give is piggybacking off of what you said with the the platform that we have now with social media I feel like I said it’s an opportunity for everyone to be their own celebrity in their own way and to cultivate their creativity bye-bye really unleashing a part of yourself that truly expresses your authentic self because I feel like we all can learn something from everyone and so I can easily be found on all of my social media at Vanessa’s Soul EXO and that’s for my website my Instagram my Twitter Snapchat Vanessa s o u l x o and then my YouTube page which I’m very pleased that you actually did take a liking to that then I appreciate that is under the the channel youtube.com flash you the letter u a r e art art because I do believe you are art and so that’s how you can find me on that and the title of my book which will be out soon is going to be called believe in your soul so just look out for that and I look forward to connecting with all you guys thank you so much for having me but I really appreciate it and this wonderful beautiful talk we had you in if anything that comes up anything you want to announce please let me know and we’ll certainly be covering your book when it gets when it comes out as well in the meantime anything else just let me know all right take care of you for listening 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Demystifying the Mechanisms of Shamanic Healing with Christina Pratt TPP125

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Christina Pratt picIn this episode I’m joined by my most revered shamanic practitioner Christina Pratt. I’ve diligently studied her podcast archive and found her to be without a doubt the foremost scholar of all things shamanic. I was delighted to have the opportunity to explore her personal background in more detail, to learn about the mechanisms of shamanic healing, and to take a sobering look at the epidemic of soul loss, its dire consequences, yet potentially simple solutions.

Please visit her websites at:
http://whyshamanismnow.org/
http://lastmaskcenter.org/

About Christina:

Thirty years ago with, a full cosmology of spirit help, Christina, brought forward The Cycle of Transformation, an extremely challenging, four-year training in the shamanic skills needed to create the New World in our time. She is the founder and primary shamanic healer at Last Mask Center (www.lastmaskcenter.org) in Portland, Oregon and the author of the two-volume set, An Encyclopedia of Shamanism.  Christina’s international, live-Internet radio show, Why Shamanism Now, offers over 350 hours of free podcasts on the practical application of shamanism in the archives at (www.whyshamanismnow.com).

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin welcome to Township hunt podcast episode number 125 I’m joined by Christina Pratt the host of the why Shamanism Now podcast founder of the last mask Center and author of the Encyclopedia of shamanism and I just have to say I have listened Christina to pretty much all of your podcast and binge listened while I was doing lots of permaculture landscape projects and really was able to deeply digest so much of what you have offered and I feel like to give you some praise I want to see I really feel like you have Consolidated and synthesized and really been able to package some of the most advanced understandings and and wisdom’s interested vast array of epistemology is that you’ve been able to kind of Chiropractic in a way to offer to the modern mind especially the Westin neurotic modded mine it’s just Priceless and I just thank you so much for having done that work and I’m obviously just scratching the surface this is the tip of the iceberg the podcast cuz what you also had offers multiple types of training programs and you’ve written literally written the book on chamonix Encyclopedia of time is in which I’ve yet to to read and I I look forward to having the time to but a few more words of Praise I’ll say is that I when I was going to every episode and taking screenshots of my phone to capture the moments where I would need to be taking notes if I was of course I’ve got tons of screenshots from the Highlight moments and I’ve got to I was selecting with episodes that I thought would be a good Core Curriculum to offer to other people to say hey this is episodes you should start with if you don’t have the endurance that I do and it was like a hundred episodes has the requisite rear exit and so I’m going to have to whittle those down and eventually but that’s just a more more praise and I gotta stay it’s really been so helpful and so that’s all to say I’m really extremely grateful to be in this moment where where I’m going to be able to explore some of the advanced material that you have to offer and give you the space to to speak freely about your your personal journey and I also all the last thing I want to say is that you have been so gracious after I fumbled the first scheduled episode that we had a week ago I was in this Twilight Zone of a situation that resulted in me waking up an hour and a half after we are scheduled time so I just want to fall on the sword and apologize for that again so thank you again for your graciousness and with all that same Christina please if you would give us one of your beautiful. Introductions your space holding in container building intros that are classic on your podcast if you would think I know I’m honored to be here I think it’s just important for us to teach and so it’s not a problem at all that we’re having a around to all right so let’s just take a moment and shift here and and asked that we might receive assistance here today in these proceedings and let’s extend our awareness out to the East and we call the East End that our hearts might be clear here and open us to visions of pain spell Futures that we might share in a better way with all living things than humanity is at this moment and may we awake and that possibility that lives in each of our hearts to see this possible future and to want to care in our hearts to live it and I’ll let’s turn a quarter turn to the South and we call out to the energy of the South that our hearts are full full full hearts that we can access the power of love in our hearts and bring that to bear in our every deliberation and throughout our day and as we go into our dreaming at night may we be strong in our hearts and understand that it is the human heart that makes us so special here in our place in this great Web of Life another breath let’s take a quarter turn to the west and we call out to the energy of the West to be with us here today and to waken in us an open heart that we might be open to the wisdom that is all around us not just from each other and those for a different than we are but those were here in other forms the plants and animals to the mountains to the rivers to all that is here in this great Web of Life May our hearts open to that wisdom I remember that time back so far in the past when we could all still talk to each other and finally let’s take a quarter turn to the north, call out to this energy to be with us here today and it helped us to have a strong heart and that’s through our strong Hearts way we access our power to do good work in the world to be better humans and to Manifest this possible vision of a new world where people understand their good relationship with all living things and as his container into a complete circle around us and we call out to the helping spirits to come in let us reach up to the highest power reaching all the way up and however we conceived of this energy would we simply see it as the Sun or the beautiful full moon or the stars above Matey’s radiant Divine energies from above shine down on us and maybe receive this energy receiving the essence energy of blessing and to ourselves and into our day the energy of protection inspiration illumination and the generosity and devotion that is necessary for us to do good work here in the world to make all these energies into Inspire us and open us to the benevolence of this universe and as we draw that energy into her head from her head to her heart or heart to our belly let us take a moment and reach down to the Earth and to give thanks for this day to give thanks for our life give thanks for the Wonder of the dreaming of this beautiful planet that brings Life as we understand it to the face of our Earth may give gratitude to all that has been that has brought us to this moment for all that is and all that will be Amazon normous tanks and are heartless reach down through all the layers of the earth to the very center of the earth to connect to that energy that nourishes all that energy that is before all the abundance on the diversity that we share here on the surface of the Earth that is reach into that deep energy that draws its strength from Darkness come Stillness and silence and as we called energy from above down let us draw this Earth Energy up throwing it all the way up through all the layers of the earth bringing in that which replenishes restores and renew into our own bodies up into our heart and our mind and sending this energy all the way up to the highest power so that Earth and Sky these two great Legendary Lovers can connect connect to each other and connect through us as humans and made us big love these two great ones share awaken the spirit of our own heart and may our heart be open and clear it be strong and may it be. We can bring the love to bear in our lives and for all the spirit help that we have to do this to live in this way in the world to give great thanks thank you so much Goosebumps I appreciate you have finally being in this moment I just can’t wait to have you open up and share your personal story how you evolve is being to get to this level of astounding offering so where do you want to begin then when did you first start start to have most saying I like the word. Genius turn window into school system D Geniuses us and we lose the enchantment with nature lot of us some do you feel like you had a deeper connection to the spirit world to you in a friend imaginary friends or voices her otherworldly beings just Sega start from your earliest enchantment with the Beyond this realm I’m not sure you know people who do Shamanism these days always talk about having a benesch almond since I was a child and I and I think I was just a kid I had a huge imaginary life but I see that the most children that are having a decent childhood and I had a decent childhood you know I mean my my parents weren’t perfect we had what I consider garden-variety dysfunction in our family but that also means there was a lot of love and support I grew up in a beautiful place on the world my own little neighborhood had to park in the center of it and a river wrapping around two sides so you know we could we could do sanctioned play out in nature in the park or we could sneak off to the river where we weren’t supposed to be his kids and you know play in the in the river and you know I we camped as a family I mean I just I grew up in Oregon I mean it’s a gorgeous place on the face of this globe and I got no complaints and so I don’t I don’t know that as a kid I thought I was in a more weird than any other kid in Oregon as well as a Oregon and Washington so I feel like I can relate to the Enchantment of just being in that in that part of the world so then as you grew up and what were some of the first highlights of just discovering and seeking to understand more than what meets the eye and more than what is sort of spoon-fed from the the Western pear Diamond if you have to actually have been allowed to be a kid you know it’s not like today where everyone’s got play dates and your parents are in the right as you’re going to get kidnapped and you know all this other crazy stuff I mean we basically went out in the morning we weren’t school near and wild all day came in for dinner you know I mean I really got to be a kid and I appreciate that so you know this the other Singh though as beautiful as this place was that I grew up it was also an extremely small town was very close-minded town in general my parents are part of a an educated sort of group of Professionals in that town but otherwise it was sits pretty pretty scary place in terms of its politics and I mean that she tried to burn the books in the library when I was a kid in grade school I mean it’s just unbelievable to me anyway and so there was one black family and one Jewish Family and otherwise as wide as it could be and extremely sexist and so honestly in the beginning throughout my whole grade school I saw success academically and dust in the system as my ticket out of town and then I wasn’t going to do anything to mess that up cuz all I wanted was to get out of that town and the repression of the sexus mindset in that town as beautiful as it was you know still by the time I had been in junior high and high school and was pretty high achieving in school I got tired of being told you know you can’t do that because you’re a girl and I was so angry by the time I left and went away to college you know I went as far away as I could go to college from that town is still speak English and I didn’t really like the system because I really saw that as my ticket out and I and I freely admit that and it worked you know I got out and went to college and went to the other side of the United States and and proceeded in my you know how late late teens and early twenties to dive deeper and deeper deeper into the depression that had been growing since I was about 12:11 or 12 and I kept this completely secret I didn’t let anybody know I didn’t speak with my family about it and speak with counselors at school because me and really if you want to stay so where was the getting of shamanism honestly for me it was right there and the fear that underneath all of this capacity to succeed very well in the system I was actually crazy and then tell anyone was my big dark secret and in college just I made various choices probably didn’t actually have a very good adviser and cost us extremely stressed with my class load and my pre-med status and all these things that I was doing at that time and was really driving myself pretty pretty deeply into depression and in many ways now I mean many 40 years later right now I look back at that and I see the the pain that so many of us feel that is unnamed and unspoken and misdiagnosed constantly that is the pain of a a child wanting their initiation into adulthood and knowing there’s no one around who’s even an adult much less capable of opening that threshold and I think for me the fact that the world as it was was breaking my heart everyday was really the root of my depression not that I could not that I would have anywhere near articulating it in that way at that time at that time I fit into probably would talk about it as anybody else who is 18 19 20 in that time and felt stressed about school it’s not the other thing but I didn’t talk about it with anybody I mean that’s kind of the point and thank goodness I didn’t and that this was all happening before this age of pharmaceuticals for depression because my path would have been very different and I would have been diverted frankly from my path I believe and I might still be struggling to find my way out had I been you know off on that pharmaceutical past because I actually personally believe that it is our pain and what breaks our heart that is guiding us towards our purpose whatever that purpose might be and so to be afraid that pain is going to kill you and I’ve hurt yourself from that pain is not the path why you’re here that pain will not kill you other things might but pain will not and trusting that that pain is your deep inner soles message to you to get back in alignment with what you’re really here to do to me is like if my if my own life story could teach us anything in this time that we’ve gone beyond not wanting to be in discomfort now everybody’s creating their own preference song like in my day you listen to the radio right which meant you got to listen to three songs you didn’t like to hear the one song you did and about you know you just dealt with it you know today everyone’s got the wrong person all crafted soundtrack you don’t ever have to hear anything that doesn’t make you feel good and that is teaching us that to be afraid of pain and discomfort and honestly I don’t have this like happy to I was always talking to the bunnies in the fairies and everybody always knew I was so special I was going to be a shaman that is as it should be and children aren’t initiated into adulthood and it is a great pain and suffering it is the root of so much of our young mental On Wellness which is it mental illness it’s actually a a sane response to an insane broken system and I didn’t understand any of it at that time but I but when I look back now I just throw thanks goodness thank all that is around for the timing that I did not tell anyone and I did not get medicated and I was able to figure it out now granted we have to go back to the one piece that is different from people that have serious trauma particularly from their own parents is I didn’t you know I had to parents for all of their dysfunction that love me and I knew it so and that’s important you know when I do not understand that that is the context of my story is the world was breaking my heart but you know my parents didn’t and so I had that juxtaposition that tensions within me but if your parents break your heart and the system breaks your heart and the world around you breaks your heart that’s a really heavy burden and that’s I think what we’re talking about when we talk about people dealing with that level of of trauma not that it can’t still be rise out of it but I just want to be honest about that you know that I don’t I don’t have that picture place within my heart I still have to deal with the world every day but at least I knew that if I really really broke in half with a burden of the world that my parents would be there to pick me up they might not be able to fix anything send been able to fix anything yet right but they would scrape me off the pavement and you know give me a place to have a hot bath and feed me so not everybody has that not everybody has that knowing if that’s a space so anyway so so what happened then is I the first place there’s a couple now in reflection as I reflect as I get older and older my life is a couple other places that I would say Spirit really came into my life and diverted me from really stupid decisions but the first place that I would you know how openly said before is I got accepted to medical school in my early twenties and I was physically unable to say yes thank you and it’s medical school right you got to say yes and accept your position or they’re going to give it to 10 over other candidates and I couldn’t I was literally like my throat would seize up like someone was strangling me on the phone and this happened to into separate phone calls 12 hours apart trying to accept this position to medical school and so I said in a fit of frustration I said since I don’t seem to be able to say yes I would like to defer for a year and then she hung up she said thank you very much and hung up on me so I couldn’t even talk through that at all now after I didn’t go to medical school I never looked back I never even considered that it had been deferred because my package changed at that moment but that is a place where there was you know it’s like the spirit world can’t get through to me yet I’m not I’m not really paying attention in any kind of systematic way this making any sense to anybody in the spirit world is going holy crap we have got to divert her or back on track just grabbed her strangled her yeah tough love from your spirit helpers day it was the first I was very hard-headed very directed child that went from wanting to be a ballerina to wanting to be a surgeon so I mean that says a lot about being you know pretty much type quadruple a four at that time but I was also depressed user-friendly that was really working for me and anyway to make a very long story short so what happened in not going to medical schools and I have a year in limbo I’m not knowing what I was doing and I never had that since childhood you know so it threw me back in place of what was have been really good about my childhood which gave me kind of the buffer that I needed to start looking at what really hadn’t been good about my childhood and that’s when I crossed paths with a woman named Phyllis pay and a began to learn the practices that are the the heart and soul of the clearing practices that I teach as part of the shamanic teachings that I teach now which I feel is is the primary distinction between my work shamanic Lee and other contemporary practitioners is this this long history with the importance for us as contemporary people of taking responsibility for our life no matter what that life story has been and the skills to do that and this is where the sky like the great equalizer skill anybody can do what you need no shamanic skills you need no particular ability to do anything other than the desire to climb out of whatever that story is is that you’ve been cast in and stuck in in your life and begin to clear deep in yourself or you hold onto those beliefs that support that story and change and choose be able to truly choose your own life and so my capacity to come into Shamanism later began with my ability to learn to clear my own relationship with my unresolved dysfunction unresolved addiction my unresolved codependent Behavior you know all these things that come out of our family of origin to sexism I experience you know all of it all the stuff we’re aware of now but the point is I refuse to let that continue to strip my life and what Phyllis gave me was one single skill that I could use for the rest of my life to choose to unwind that in my own head and take take responsibility for it and begin to choose what beliefs do I want to have shaking my life and to let go of these past traumas past whatever and so that was for me but you and this happened to almost 10 years before its Shamanism happened and so by the time I was introduced to shamanic things I had been in 08 years into this clearing process daily the daily daily process the way I learned it as I learned it as personal practice I teach it as a paired practice that that can be personal or Collective but for me that made all the difference in the world because I started to be able to actually get at the underpinnings of my own depression and walk my way out of it and by the time I ever had a soul retrieval is part of my my training later on as a shamanic practitioner the the integration on the issues around that had already been addressed to the clearing process by the ton diesel Parts came back it was kind of like just a missing link for everything to then going to shift into 5th gear and go so I think I would have the second place where I know I would have had a very different version of my life path had I not been introduced us to listen this clearing process which I still teach and I am now evolving into being able to teach it as a as a larger online offering precisely because a couple years ago someone asked me a student asked me to what would you teach if you could only teach one thing and they are expecting some precise shamanic magical you know Magic Bullet and I said clearing if I could only do one thing for the rest of my life to sing that would make the biggest impact on Humanity’s ability to move into the new world would be flaring you sweet and so anyway so for me that was fortuitous I don’t claim any inside or shamanic wisdom in making that happen I basically got coerced into doing it but I mean honestly my massage therapist blackmailed me it said do not get up on the table I will not massage you again until you choose a meditative practice and it was one of five things and I just picked that one so I can get my massage that day but then I had to follow through or else I wouldn’t get my Visage next week so I’m not claiming any wisdom here at all just putting the pieces together but again I think when we don’t give Spirit the means by which to communicate with us directly that is spiritual use other avenues and they I know he people in my life are being used big time because I wasn’t paying attention I was 20 all I cared about was was going to have sex with next you know why I was not paying attention on any higher level other than the fact I didn’t want to be in pain and I didn’t want to repeat the same disaster in my last emotional relationship intimate relationship in the next one and I can pretty much see that was a pattern and it wasn’t getting any better and I just wanted you know better relationships less pain and more sex more great sex and I mean I was 28 but you know what else are you focused on in your twenties I don’t know peace in my head there was an episode where you said no I was in my twenties or if you were talking about someone is like in your twenties you’re interested in having sex frankly and there’s nothing wrong with it so so anyway so let’s see so so that goes on for many years like I said I was doing good flirting practice for a lot of years and that in that time I because of the help of many wonderful teachers that I mean there was a point in time in my life I literally had for teachers that were sort of unidentified teachers in my life I mean that’s how stupid I was and how hard headed and how not getting it I was and that’s how we are when we’re not initiated into adulthood and so this idea that I let you know I got experience with some of my younger students you know 20-something students now who are like well I just I have been clearing for a year why can’t I be a shaman yet it’s like a year all I had for teachers and the practice what they taught me for 8 years before I even began to move into Shamanism and that we just don’t have any respect for the phases of transformation and the depth of Mastery necessary to really show up when you think about it why would people think about that anymore you can go after your first two yoga classes you can go sign up for yoga certification to become a yoga teacher has no respect you know we all you have to do is pay your money and your a Reiki master but no respect for these past Master anymore and this again would be another message for people to really think about your Soul’s purpose which is the Cornerstone of your well-being is some kind of path of Mastery for you it’s not a job title and it’s it’s not something that you’re going to get to retire from it’s about the cultivation of your soul in this life and yeah it takes time to learn skills you’re going to have to show up you’re not going to be able to do it all online right now so let’s see socialism comes into the picture again because I have another horribly painful awful situation happen and I have at that point in time left all I did I did make a conscious break from being the person I had been trained to be so I left my capacity to make good money my kind of white privilege a lot of that stuff behind to the degree anyone ever can leave their white privilege behind but I stepped away from the world I’ve been educated into left everything behind move back to the east coast again to dance again as a modern dancer at 27 so for those of you that know anything about dancing that means I’m already too old to be doing that it wasn’t this again not the smartest thing to do but it did put me on a collision course by choosing the last thing I had remembered really feeling passion doing a really being connected to myself doing the last thing I remembered feeling that way was dancing when I was a child so I sacrificed everything to commit to that again and along the way I’d also figured out that I had to be dancing I would end up being depressed again so there was a certain piece of that in the story as well as a pretty big unwieldy story it really wasn’t like who I met my teacher my shamanic teacher and they said I’ve been waiting for you my whole life I dress her and hear let me start training you I mean I don’t have that story and I actually envy people that do you know my family traveled to Africa and the shaman came out of the village and said I’ve dreamt of you my whole life’s little skinny white boy and you know, and be initiated I’ve never had that I wish you know it was going to make things more clear I did everything the hard way just like trying to figure it all out anyway so I’ve gone back to New York I’m struggling as a modern dancer in New York which mostly means not dancing and working for $9 an hour at something in Manhattan and living this completely blessed life and Manhattan I have again no complaints scary as hell a lot of money but a lot of blessing a really really blessed in so many ways and then my life just kind of had a collision course crash with Shamanism when I had the ones for the sustaining relationship in my life is like my one best friend that was really kind of helping me hold it together in this crazy New York thing dumped me and and in that crisis I ask for help I was working with runes at the time for divination and from that I got a dance job that I wanted and then I lost it like my dream dance job and then I lost it and I crashed into a huge depression darker than it had ever yet been in all the cycling through it since I’ve been 12 so now I’ve been cycling through depression for 20 years and that I had a break with reality in that in that particular depression that lasted sustained for 3 Days 3 nights and in that. Of time my initiatory helping Spirit was was with me in my in my break with ordinary reality I was moving through my days in this ongoing conversation with this spirit and pretty sure this was not sealing the deal on my lifetime fear that I was actually crazy and there’s nothing like a break with reality to say yeah there you go proven it to you you are crazy in a bad way and I’m so that’s what my initiation really really rotated around is what what kind of crazy meaning those are pretty much the things that shamanic initiation revolves around as either death or crazy and I think for me in this particular life I was more afraid of being crazy than being dipped show. Experience resolves itself not in any kind of heroic way I basically made it through that industry experience pretty much with a good enough answer for that Spirits you close enough to not drag me over into an unhelpful crazy that I probably would have been stuck in for a know how long ever probably and let me come back she know she let me go basically and it completely changed my life I didn’t know what had happened don’t have any context for it but I knew that I was fundamentally changed in a way that I didn’t would never just go back it wasn’t I mean I’ve had many transformational experiences but pretty much all of them you can back out up there was no going back from this life was amazing that point just I could really see just the fabric of things coming together was so clear at that time I end sometimes I long for the clarity that I had in the months that followed that experience and in that time not knowing what had happened but I didn’t understand this would probably be the single most important thing that would ever happen to me in my whole life and that I needed to just pay attention cuz I didn’t really know what else to do and now many teachers at that time in New York other than New York itself and very quickly and very quick succession while that industry experience was still sort of having it was a bit like an earthquake where earthquakes have aftershocks I would have in the months that followed I would have aftershocks where I really lose my grip with reality and then kind of come back from a place of Oneness with everything in a really kind of high spiritual place I just suddenly be in it and then be back out of it again and it was so it was it was not a very stable time I would say but but but is very ecstatic very positive and when I was tracking I was really putting One Foot In Front Of Another to get my life back in alignment cuz I really feel that happening and and sign away the property rights and all that stuff is is going to be replaced by this micropayment ecosystems where people can support each other for you no value in the content that they consume and Envy in really well well supported in and I think it’s going to do the asking to do a lot that’s amazing all them you know dozens of jobs disappearing as robots take over and Singularity and all the stuff and at some point in my life I was really concerned about this you know yet where are the millions of drivers truck drivers going to go when we have also if driving cars do you know all the stuff but the answer is blanching all these people will be doing things in blockchain I will be getting paid well for it and it’ll take less time and I mean from the Tim Ferriss 4-Hour Work Week on and everything. Having high developments off technology and be more efficient with our time does not mean that we if it’s not does not need to be scary now there’s a lot of stuff within fast Evolution that is that is concerning to me specially how fast were developing and growing and how our security initiatives are not all the party yet and I think we’re getting there so there’s a lot of concern of course but anyting however I don’t think that we all really grasp or we’re starting to now how how much we really don’t have to work 90 hours a week or whatever the ridiculous things we do you know that the whole point of this is that micro payments and micro contributions from everybody involved will free up more time for us to to be humans to exist to just let me know this is such an interesting new development in the sort of thing that’s had that imprint of a techno dystopia since childhood from all the Sci-Fi and I watch the beach and then you know you imagine this world where humans are made obsolete by robotic technology and Ai and and I’ve been pretty you know demoralized by that those prospects especially now is drone coming to the picture and now I really feel like it as of this moment this kind of is really the undeniable presence in the now of both of those dystopic seems coming coming nauseous it come to life but it coming into existence put them as you’re saying which is actually still Redemptive for Sheet the human soul is that like she was an example something might you might have some thoughts on as a form of empowerment but it’s like that the sort of this myth of the scarcity of worthwhile productive labor that can be done from picking up trash to planting trees to cleaning up toxic waste like through the blockchain micropayments and sort of micro temporary employment contracts that can really enfranchise all the homeless people to get a micro crypto payment without actually showing up and waiting in line to get in the welfare program or get into a you know some sort of job placement program you can just be like you know you show up on their stomachs feel like a Whitney to some kind of cleanup has to happen and people can just mop it and and have day labor crypto payments and there will really never be a gap between meaningful work and and fair pay and there’s plenty of wealth in the crypto world alone to finance stuff like that and even if you know whether it’s through a nonprofit system or through tax system I mean I’m not going to endorse taxes in general but but you kind of know what I’m saying so how do you feel about that you feel like that’s the direction we’re going to go absolutely hundred percent and there are so many projects that are mind-blowing for example the green miners are looking into mining basically with all green energy from turning trash into clean energy so that things like Bitcoin mining don’t have to take resources as we know them now and that there are so many projects in the space for cleaning up the oceans and cleaning up the air and I’m bringing food to the right places and replanting trees and replenishing the soil I mean there if you think of any good initiatives going on in the world for every single one of them there is at least one crypto person who is trying to intercept and connect and there are some barriers you know like the the extreme hippies and I don’t mean that in any negative or positive connotation specifically just outside another word to use like the core standards and the cryptic Crypt of hippies and all these people like hippies like me back in the day when I when I was in Turkish hippie confused and all of this navigating technology I’m really scared of it I never imagined in my life that I would be here talking about technology I like at the same time I see like you said you know how directly this has impacted my life I live a better life I can eat better food because I have my bills taken care of more often because I am connecting projects that feed my soul in that feed my pocket and and it’s just it’s just Technologies not going anywhere so yes hearing drums zooming around in the air concerns me especially there’s no privacy lost about this and I’m sure I am in plenty of videos just public random videos of people have of course all that is concerning to me but at the same time if I can get drones to massively plant trees and water them creating on cleaning water and stainable way and replacing the Salt Lake of course I want that also so it’s a fine balance you knowing yeah there’s just there’s just so many opportunities and I’m very hopeful first person you know Technologies not going anywhere in the craziest disasters are going on in the world are very real and I’m very aware of my privilege and I’m honored for just being able to be a voice and a part of this movement in any way but if you are truly concerned if you’re a person sitting there and you are really really against technology my best advice to you is to get involved you know what I mean so get involved and make sure that our our moral compasses are still true and that our time is being used efficiently because well I think it’s drizzling experiencing abundance is a really healing thing for our communities that happen monkey trains into scar City and fear so I think that having lavish parties and exotic places when they are led by the right Compass when we’re doing no trash Left Behind when we’re also feeding the end in helping those communities those are beautiful experiences I think also is very easy to fall into the you know greedy egotistical side of things and so we can be people on the sidelines criticizing this movement or we can just Dive Dive Right In and whichever way feels comfortable to you and try to help from within you know absolutely yeah amazing so do you want to talk can you talk a bit about you know obviously not to be tokenizing but I was really thrilled to know that Amanda B Johnson is the spokes person for Dash and they have a sort of a in the dash consensus system they’re they’re holding their whole their whole technological platform on the basis of it there’s money allocated in there sitting there a crypto economic ecosystems to support people in in roles as delegates and Advocates and Educators and I’m I’m wondering if you have some thoughts on connecting with or have you connected with women in crypto and just having more solidarity and more initiatives that are women lead and women find it and having the the voice and the the wisdom of Sisterhood in the crypto space which is is seriously it’s I don’t know I wouldn’t say this that I understand to be hyper sexist or it’s just a typically gender imbalance in technology for various reasons of course and but this is one of the most inviting and open-minded for thinking space is so I’m just curious if you have thoughts understand that aspect I do and I just want to throw in really quickly that Dash is doing some incredible incredible things to use this new currency in the everyday lives of people and changing a lot I mean I spoke with Danny the other day from the Crypt of showing radio station and just some of the projects he shared with me that they’re doing going to orphanage orphanage is camping outside open and to defend that old homes and rebuilding after after earthquakes all of these weren’t the weather doing in Mexico and helping people from the US and for Mexico to send each other Dash instead of Fiat you know making it super useful super accessible for them and actually turning crypto into into resources are they need whether it’s a new fan for their ceiling or food or whatever and so they are doing a lot of work right on the ground and putting you know when ATMs in crypto ATM there just it is amazing to see this dystopian Society for good and bad is already here as completely I mean crypto is already being used in so many daily activities all the time so much more that we know and I know that documentaries are being created and they will be available to all of us soon and every time more but there is so much more happening than we even inside are aware of you know every time I talk with anybody is it blows my mind all the projects are going on in and that this is the Hood part of it is another one and there are all these telegram groups going around some of them are called crypto women badass women in blockchain you know he’s different name there’s this group on Facebook called crypto queens and I have found some amazing amazing humans are working with the UN and women investing in women and funding each other’s projects and the Miami Conference the North America Miami Conference Bitcoin conference I had this one person run up to me this woman and she said hi sister if you’re a woman here I pretty much want to connect with you and she added me to his telegram group and I stole that from her in the best possible way so every time I’m at any blockchain event I run up to the women and I said Hey sister if you’re a woman in the space I want to connect with you and it’s just so beautiful and so maybe 5 or 10 different groups that are all women in blockchain and art projects in blockchain it is it is really unbelievable I’m actually really excited for the South by Southwest there is a bunch of the crypto Queens are coming down we’ve been talking about doing a documentary about women in crypto and I just hope that I get to interview them 10 minutes with each van and super supportive so it’s been quite interesting and of course there is still competition with in here and there but for the most part I find that women are really supportive of each other I also have been working with swarm City and the storm funds quite a bit I meant Joel from Joel Dietz from swarm and we talked about a bunch our projects and all the stuff happening and you express a lot of interest in supporting both blockchain art projects and women equality so I know swarm is now sitting around the survey to try to make sure that there are as many women as men users and their platform that’s really exciting and also so many surveys about how they want the tokens to be used and so on are hungry to include the community that’s what’s Tim Meadows all about right and that’s what these events are all about so I think I think we’re doing pretty good so far and I see how much more collaboration is going to is going to start happening you know just from from these telegram groups and how excited everybody is and and also how cool is that that we have telegram instead all our messages so that the government can hover information are private conversations it’s just it’s amazing we weave I feel sad about the fact that Facebook and all these social media platform orny or Cuban connection you know I honestly have so many thoughts where I say I don’t care if Facebook knows all my information or if they own all my media I just want to be able to share photos of my friends in Argentina and this is the easiest form so how sad is it that we were okay with all of our privacy and information being exploited and people making money off of us just because we’re so starved for human connection so I’m really excited to be able to do the same things we’ve been doing and use the good parts of Technology like social media in a way that it also filled up our pockets and our Spirits you know that is music to my ears thank you so much I’m so glad that I I mean I just just the fact that your video came up right after cryptos news and we’re in this moment have his conversation this is all such beautiful music to my ears and yeah it’s been I mean in my field in the world of Tantra sacred sexuality sexual healing in just the I think the most important thing in my studies in my experience for healing a planet and really saving the Earth is really being instrumental and being conducive to two women Sisterhood and a healthy positive empowering way and actually creating more financial Independence so that women as mothers can have more freedom and power and actual means to make more independent decisions with their bodies with their with their you know how they how much even breastfeeding I mean the most people don’t know that it’s pretty much understood that about 5 years is a typical pre-industrial young length of time to be breastfeeding infants on demand and imagine the kind of infrastructure changes that have to happen for that to be possible in the modern world but if anything’s going to make it happen it’s going to be the fruit of the work that people like you were doing and that’s as you know might just sort of Public Service Announcement about you know a sort of futuristic crypto feminism you know that I said that I want to contribute to I want to see happen is this more and more working together and in collaboration So yeah thank you for helping with that and Centric energy and learning some teachings of something that it’s pretty recent to me maybe two years and there’s so much to learn and I found so much healing and in all of these intersections of psychedelics meditation 10 trick work and crypto and it’s it’s so bizarre and no way to talk about technology and evolution and money in the same line that we talked about psychedelics and in self-healing love and all of this to no life force of energy but it is all the same thing it’s it’s just growing us a more compassionate and accepting loving human race you know that’s what it’s all about and at the same time that I’m really excited about all of these blockchain as a vehicle for 4 change I am really concerned about Wi-Fi and radiation and you know of course all of these a chemtrail crazy stuff that we put ourselves through so I’m putting out the intention into calling for more people to get involved in to figure it out other ways to connect the other internet in a way that it’s not so destructive for us and so there’s not some natural solutions and then there’s simple things we can do like turning off wi-fi at night when you go to sleep and self-education on this on this topic but I would love to hear more like I said Solutions and privacy are are something that we are now noticing that we need to work on more at the same time that we develop all these amazing systems right we need to wear we’re kind of like it’s floating and all this magical ways and now we need to start creating the containers that will keep us a lines into our missions as well yeah absolutely absolutely awesome well yeah I’m getting about 2 or if you’ll just totally mind blown and totally satiated by learning all this stuff all this great stuff that you’re doing do you feel free now to take some time to promote your efforts and talk about we have coming up in the future will people can be looking out for and and yeah we’ll we’ll call it a good introduction to hopefully we can also keep in touch on going up next and that is the exist festival.com that it’s a beautiful project where we are just connecting more and more people doing similar events and hoping that we can continue to collaborate so if anybody’s interested in anything that we’re doing please reach out there’s room for you to be fully creative in your own way and like I said it’s not about competition the abundance is there and in so many ways so that is South by Southwest Austin and then we have token Fest in San Francisco I will be there as well and then we have an art party in the bay somewhere so all this information will be on social media that is at my new brakes on Twitter or breaks on Instagram and I wanted to mention. So I most recently connected with gel polish and he’s doing art for addicts and he has a lot of projects going on in that world so I’m really excited to get more involved in healing the process of healing ourselves through ART and handling addiction because I believe technology is also an addiction right so being able to create those containers again and also few initiatives for the cleaning up the oceans and ocean token and just so many good projects coming up so anyway that I can that I can help or help you connect with those who will get you to where you want to be the green miners we clean energy any of that please reach out to me I would love to help out cool thank you again so much now Newburgh city has been such a pleasure and yet again thank you for just allowing me to be impulsive and send a message out to you and get you on the show and to know also that your ear integrating some the tantric wisdom in and works into your life it’s so exciting and I agree this is all just one big Kundalini blockchain Bliss Bellini black seamless hashtag that will be in touch in the future and thank you again so much sounds good thank you so much have a beautiful night. 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Psychedelic Goddess Worship the White Paper TPP124

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In this episode I share a piece I wrote that serves as a sort of guerrilla psychedelic research white paper. It is the most direct and concise articulation of my thesis:

  1. Demons are invisible to the naked eye but exist as energetic parasites lurking all around us at all times
  2. They are attracted by energy that’s released during sex, aggression, intimidation, fear, etc.
  3. They enter into cracks in the protective shield of our auric field and chakra system caused by abuse, trauma, neglect, lack of adequate love, negative thought patterns, etc.
  4. Acts of sexual manipulation, abuse, exploitation, and rape create opportunities for them to spread and infect souls, virgin souls are a delicacy for them
  5. With varying degrees of conscious awareness from relatively benign ignorance, to sinister intentionality: sexual predators are being possessed by demonic entities
  6. Surgical shamanic exorcism must be performed to remove them
  7. In perpetrators with full blown infections, their demons have spread and gotten control of their nervous system
  8. Victims have incubating infections that if disinfected, purified, and healed before they spread into the nervous system, can prevent neurosis and sexual pathology
  9. Surgical shamanic exorcism when combined with certain psychedelic plant medicines, ceremonial ritual allows for the patient and/or shaman to see the infectious parasitic organisms as if with x-ray vision
  10. Goddess-centered sacred sexual healing arts such as Tantra when applied in conjunction with psychedelic shamanic exorcism produces a positive synergistic effect whereby an erotic exorcism can be performed
  11. Most traditional psychedelic shamanic healing ceremonies are inaccessible financially and geographically by the average American
  12. Most Tantric “Dakas” (male sexual healers) and “Dakinis” (female sexual healers) are inaccessible financially by the average American
  13. A “poor man’s” do-it-yourself-or-with-partners home-based procedure can be quickly, easily, and affordably trained for mass application with minimal risks and mild if any drug side-effects

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Understanding Sexual Shamanism with Kenneth Ray Stubbs PhD TTP115

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In this episode I’m joined by Kenneth Ray Stubbs PhD, one of the most distinguished and accomplished elders in the field of sacred sexuality and sexual shamanism. His no-nonsense approach to teaching the energetics of shamanic healing is very compelling. It was a blessing to be able to explore his unique perspectives and stock up on new highly effective practical, theoretical, and analytical tools that I haven’t found elsewhere in the field.

About Kenneth:
In 1975 Ray began teaching erotic massage to people of all sexual orientations in San Francisco. His 1989 Erotic Massage — the Touch of Love book was the first instructional book to illustrate genital massage and has sold over a million copies worldwide.

He has taught many somatic modalities and has written/created over a dozen books and DVDs on sacred sexuality including Women of the Light: The New Sacred Prostitute, Sacred Orgasms, and The Essential Tantra. He also co-created the 90-minute documentary The Sacred Prostitute and a recent documentary, Path of the Sexual Shaman: Teachings on Energy, Orgasm, and Wisdom. Ray is the former vice-president of the Association of Sexual Energy Professionals.

On a shamanic path for over two decades, Ray is a 13-year SunDancer and has been greatly influenced by Tibetan Buddhism.

Via Skype and the phone, he now gives individual sessions and trainings on energy, sexuality, shamanism, and transformation.

He can be reached at www.SexualShaman.com

Anarcho-Punk, Psychedelics, and Survivalism with Laughing Coyote TPP98

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This episode contains an interview with one of my anarcho-punk brothers from back in the day. We recorded this conversation over 6 years ago yet it remains a compelling primer on the evolution of radical ecological movements and the their dynamics within the punk underground.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 98 this is a blast from the past a recording I did with a dear friend of mine from the anarcho punk movement this was back in 2011 and 2012 was so big on my mind and it was a catalyst for a lot of Rapid transformation and I think we’re just beginning to see some of the changes that people were preparing for it that time so it’s kind of a time capsule looking at where I was coming from and it was a beautiful opportunity for me to catch up with an old friend with deeper roots in the movement of a knuckle Punk and Eco activism and psychedelic Shamanism and anarcho-primitivism green Anarchy and much more so I think it’s a great primer on the movements that I really feel like I’ve been most affected by and in the most aligned with and yeah I hope you enjoy it thank you so much no mistake I’m here today with a very dear and old friend and comrade at laughing coyote and the I will ask you introduce yourself tell us a little bit about how you personally evolved into a punk rock culture and anti-thyroid tarianism and where and when and how the environmental and ecological movement in Consciousness started to emerge with that path yeah I guess you were asking me earlier about how I got involved in the anarcho punk subculture and how I begin when in my life I begin identifying as an anti fart Aryan and I would say for me I mean it goes back to my first conscious memories Witcher you know maybe kindergarten around that. Of my life from a very early age before I even possess the vocabulary to articulate my views on external Authority and the attempts of those around me particularly adults to control me I had an instinctive aversion to being controlled and I definitely was with a we’re on a intuitive level that there was an indoctrination and socialization process going on around me one of my earliest memories is being forced to say the Pledge of Allegiance in kindergarten being introduced to that brainwashing ritual for the first time and realizing you know seeing seen the psychological mechanics at work and I went to to be grasping that immediately I I knew that by forcing us to repeat this his oath day after day that there was a process of brainwashing occurring I just didn’t have the vocabulary possess the vocabulary at the time to to explain that to anyone else but I was aware of what was happening and I was mentally guarded against it once I learned to read and write the once I crack the code of language I was probably 7 or 8 at that point I realized at that point that I the public school system of you know that was holding me prisoner at the time was standing in the way of my education and that once I had gained the gift of literacy I I I was quite prepared to just take it from there and strike out of my own I realized I didn’t really have a I have a need for this standardized State curriculum and I resented you know this state finance housing facility that I was confined in 5 days a week so I I definitely was looking for ways to rebell and to escape but at a young age it was hard for me to articulate what I saw going on around me and I didn’t feel like I had a lot of allies and I didn’t really understand the on the limits are the extent of my own personal strength and ability to alter my situation so yeah I begin exhibiting rebellious antisocial anti-authoritarian Tendencies at a young age tried my best to get thrown out of school I am putting on my my real political Awakening I was kind of a Rebel Without a Cause you know up until about age 10 or 11 and one of the ways in which I rebelled against the end of it the Stipe stifling conformis environment that I was being Riordan was through drug use and by the time I was ten I was already smoking marijuana but in a way that actually led to my political radicalization because I grew up outside the New York City area and couple times a year New York City radicals would hold events in Central Park that they called Smoke in where thousands of people would show up in a five to ten thousand people and they would open we light up in smoke marijuana in defiance of the authorities in defiance of the police and nobody got arrested because in that case there there were just too many of us so I’ve been hearing about the smoke ends when I was about 12 and that started drawing me into Manhattan more regularly and it was that one of these smokins that I encountered my first and largest newspaper was called overthrow and it was put out by some former hippies who still maintained an office On Bleecker Street in Greenwich Village former Associates Abbie Hoffman who unlike Jerry Rubin and some of the other sell out to their generation they they stayed true to the game and a they were definitely anarchists leaning and their paper overthrow was certainly an artist and I started getting their offices On Bleecker Street and that was kind of my introduction to anarchism actually before I even discovered Punk so that prepared me mentally for my waiter Discovery upon which came when I was about 14 15 I mean I’ve been exposed to the anarchist Punk didn’t come it’s wet come my way until life’s about 14 or 15 when I start getting supposed to crass and all that various fans that are part of the crass family musical tree so did you start he started collecting records and going to shows and Koenig that typical process of of starting to hang out and and and kind of clicks of like-minded punk friends and video did you go a lot of punch go through a the politicization process that starts out with a very that service Street Punk you know fuck the world kind of kind of politically vacuous rebellious approach and then overtime get exposed to stuff that’s more heartfelt and compassionate and thoughtful but you had already been seated with anarchists in Revolutionary and you know social justice Liberation type Consciousness and then some music that Express that is well through anarcho-punk where did you go from there in terms of the scenes you get kind of plugged in into that world into that infrastructure and kind or are we kind of peripheral to it and you’re just always a fan and where did your life kind of go from that did it have did did the discovery of article Punk take me Lily guide to Direction your life or was it kind of background to other things or how did you how did you integrate it in were you directed by at that point wake me up in a small working class town in New Jersey about 20 minutes south of Manhattan and yet still quasi-war rural so we had a river that ran through our town called the musconetcong and I had access to forests you know within 20 minutes of where I lived in the opposite direction to Manhattan so there wasn’t any Punk scene to speak of where I was growing up I was definitely in the minority as far as my musical tastes went and the most rebellious elements amongst my peer group were metalheads and that’s pretty much why hang out hung out with they could be they could definitely be counted on to engage in a Mindless acts of vandalism and I could count on them in a lot of ways I mean they were we’re always enthusiastic about coming out spray painting tagging we pacing but that was what I was left to work with and my exposure to the punk scene involve going into Manhattan and that’s definitely where I began where I would have to go to acquire the music I was developing strong passionate interest in I was always you know I never went through like an anti nowhere we kind of phase was never a gbh type spikes in leather punk I mean I always gravitated towards the more intelligent punk bands and I was fortunate that that sweat started coming into my life anyway and what I was initially drawn to I’m with a lot of those fans with in particular the British anarcho-punk movement was I think a lot of people who don’t have any R4 Punk don’t have any work for the music and therefore of never investigated the The Counter Culture itself because of the aversion that they have to the music I think what they fail to realize is that there was a spiritual dimension to the scene especially in the early to mid 80s and I think there was a spiritual vision that was being expressed you know through the anarchist Punk movement through those those bands what they were what they were channeling and what they were expressing it had a profound impact on my life and my world view and for 15 years or more I didn’t listen to I virtually didn’t listen to any other type of music is there was nothing I encounter that was was more powerful our had a more powerful effect on me that resonated is deeply with me in the core core of my being political radicalization came through a lot of those pants Christ even even early Chumbawamba. certainly all the cracks in Mortar hate bands and bands like antisec in particular I mean that was my my exposure to animal rights animal Liberation the critique of species is on veganism which is something I embrace that a young age end incorporated into my wife for 17 years so you got those that scene had a profound effect on me but I was always because I didn’t have a larger seen that I could conveniently connect with I was always on the periphery of it and remain somewhat a lunar connected but still doing my own thing and then and it was good that I was able to maintain my distance like that because from that vantage point I was also able to observe the Conformity that was present even in the punk counterculture and a lot of the role-playing and a you know just the conformist attention to wearing the right costume and I never got sucked into that aspect of things and was actually able to maintain a detached critique of it so when in the you were getting exposed to the anarcho punk bands to an array of different social environmental and socio-economic issues and causes and movements what led you to an emphasis on environmental the environmental movement several things that were carrying that were several influences at work in my life simultaneously and definitely bands like avoid some of the early releases were instilling a strong environmental awareness and me and from there I wanted to learn more and so I began seeking out Publications like the Earth First journal on I think the single most profound influence on me during that period of my life though when I was wanting to understand my relationship with the Earth better and when I was developing a critique of urban culture was discovering the anarcho primitivism journal Fifth Estate which was coming out of Detroit during that. Of time actually from the early seventies to the early 90s that came out of the Troy and I got exposed to in about 1986 and a critique of civilization that was being formulated in fit the state during that. Of time just really blew my mind and really resonated with me and that’s when I started getting exposed to an Arco permabase writers like John’s there is an Fredy Perlman and during that. Of time every issue fit the state was crammed with investigative and bibliographical weeds tons of interesting authors and anthropologists were being cited regularly and fit the state so that gave me a lot of investigative leads to work with and I began seeking out a lot of these books and kind of immersing myself in that body of literature which I refer to as the anti-civilization critique starting with Lewis Mumford who was I’m addressing some of these issues in the 1920s and on up to the the wave of anarcho-primitivism explicitly anarchists critics of civilization that started making themselves known in the early seventies see you had established the conceptual framework to reorient yourself towards a more intimate connection with the Earth send to evaluate things like where food and water comes from in an urban culture and where we tradition or how and where we traditionally in in more Primal states of being were in balancing in Whitmore and bouncing different ways and then obviously through the Earth First Journal you’re getting exposed to the current events and issues in campaigns and whatnot did you joining the environmental movement did you was there a lot going on a lot of community that you found on the East Coast or was it coming to the West Coast where you found more of the I guess maybe we should get into just a relationship with hippie culture in a relationship with the environmental movement in the underground is just part of the the Riff Raff the overall Riff Raff you know in end of the circuits of different events like the rainbow gathering his stuff how that experience the social experience of of things in addition to the you know that the book experience in the literature experience kind of help formulate that that well before I moved to Oregon when I was 16 my understanding of what an old growth forest was was purely conceptual I was reading about it I was reading about in the Earth First Journal about the early tree sets early incidence of tree spiking but all of his stuff was occurring in the Western United States which was which is something you know I could vaguely imagine in my mind but I had no direct experience with it I’d never gone any further than a any further west than Ohio so when I move to Oregon that’s when a lot of things begin falling into place for me in my life you know intellectually and spiritually a lot of connections were instantaneously made I spent my first month in Oregon doing nothing but hiking around the Columbia River Gorge experiencing old-growth for the first time waterfalls a web of wildness that I didn’t think even existed on planet Earth anymore excited I never had anything to compare it to Savannah and the importance of the work that are the first was doing became even more apparent to me and it became much clearer what was at stake and why people were putting their lives on the line so I began exploring some of the areas that I was reading about in the Earth First Journal areas that were on the chopping block to be to be cut to be converted into clear-cut some areas that if our service and the Bureau of Land Management had designs on the earth first Journal was at least trying to draw attention to these areas and I happen to move to one of the hot spots the Pacific Northwest so this was occurring all around me so that that really helped me understand on a primal visceral level what was at stake and it stopped being like a purely intellectual fair to me at the point and just as a as a biological being I started to a to understand the the the assault that was occurring on the Web of Life how about yeah I had a definitely a similar transformative experience first getting involved with that resets and getting out there and seeing you know the Deep all girls that live the real like temperate rainforest FernGully experience and that seems to get right into people’s hearts very deeply very quickly and I totally relate to that so I and you have a unique experience that I definitely want people to learn about and hear about having frequent in the rainbow gathering and it’s I think it’s kind of like the the original working class Burning Man or Poor Man’s Poor Man’s Burning Man or something like that I guess I don’t know how the two were late you know in terms of how they cross-pollinated influence each other but I think a lot of people who see Burning Man as a cost-prohibitive Endeavor aren’t aware that the rainbow gatherings is and you told me some fascinating and wonderful things about that so maybe if you can talk about your that as an influence and is an experience and also stepping back from that just your encountering repair your encounters with and your integration of the hippie culture proper because I think what would my right as a punk my path went through that cycle of content just in your face or belly is anarchy you know kind of stuff to getting more refined and more sort of philosophical and theoretical about power relationships in class and class Warfare and stuff and then it was later that I got into environmentalism the environmental movement in and then specifically like for me it was more the crust anarcho-punk in amcrest was kind of the synthesis of the esthetic aesthetically it was at the synthesis of like Punk attire hippie dreadlocks in hemp jewelry in tribal type tattoos and tribal Trinkets and adornments and what not and even things like Patchouli and stuff like that so there’s a thin metal and then that the black you know that the black clothing and skulls and kind of the darker more evil aesthetic of metal and then the put the Consciousness in the energy in the spirit of of punk which may have been a kind of punk where was just you know people that whatever like not even dressed up but just the spirit and it didn’t matter what the law says not necessarily like bondage belts in Liberty spikes and stuff like that although there’s the memes are kind of intermix here and there but it’s definitely very apparent that hippie influence on you know just to everything from natural living and wellness and you know that that a lot of stuff getting aggravated so I’m curious you you have you no more of a more background experience probably directly encountering and integrating what I think it’s easy to makeover generalizations about anything that you are you have no personal experience with her that you’re critiquing from from afar it’s easy to stereotype Punk culture until you immerse yourself and develop some appreciation for how diverse it actually is I mean with with in the punk movement I mean how many schools of thought of and currents and sub currents have I have developed within you to the larger category a punk I mean everything from from straightedge to queercore to cross to pop punk ad infinitum you wouldn’t know that unless you would really involved yourself in it and then able to understand the nuances and the diversity that actually exist within the punk subculture I believe the hippie counterculture it’s been my experience that it’s every bit as diverse I mean you can stereotype all hippies as deadheads who like to wear tie dyes and who are worthless Stoners who snowboarding Stoners whose life revolves around glass pipes but I mean that’s that’s just one small aspect the hippie culture yeah they’re they’re just as the drunk punx are there in the glue to glue sniffing paw the gutter punks in the exploited Punk’s I mean yeah there’s plenty of things about the hippie counterculture a better disgraceful and embarrassing but I’m doesn’t entire Spectrum it runs the gamut and at its core the hippie movement was and is a DIY movement I mean it’s kind of a precursor to punk and you know that’s obvious if you know anything about the history of crass and you understand that with the exception of Steve ignorant every other member crass came out of the London hippie movement of the late 60s they were older hippies who recognized the Revolutionary potential of punk when it came along and also the artistic potential of it which I think they also took full advantage of but more than it I mean crafts more than any other anarchists projects of the late 20th century I mean they were almost single-handedly responsible for resurrecting anarchism as an international movement and it’s important to remember that was a bunch of hippies who did that so I think it’s it’s important to try to stay broad-minded and to think for yourself another thing about the hippie counterculture the 60s it’s important to look at what they were reacting against they be they were reacting against a mechanized society and increasingly mechanized Society and some of the ways some of the things that they pioneered are things that I benefited from later on as an anarcho punk I’m the fact that there were health food stores for me to plug into and take advantage of that I that stores existed where I could purchase tofu where I could acquire soy milk and all these new products at 7 we became important to me I have two hippies the back for that the fact that I could find organic food pretty easily here on the West Coast in the whole organic movement organic agriculture was something that was pioneered or at least Revitalize than significantly strengthened by by the hippies the back to the land movement of the early seventies the late sixties and early seventies but definitely in the 70s is when it began to occur when a lot of people realize that the values that they were fighting for where we’re real they were important they were values that they had internalized and wanted to live by but the revolution that so many people were counting on a hurting in the 60s wasn’t going to a car so I think a lot of it quote unquote hippies at that point decided that the best course of action available to them was to get out of the Cities get out of Babylon as as they call it and get back to the land to individually and in a small group secede from the system and so I also had that 2 to take advantage of the fact that you know where I was living in the Pacific Northwest there there was still plenty of functioning communes that were were established in the early 70s that I was able to visit learn from stay out for extended periods of time I mean that’s that’s where I begin to learn to grow food myself was a practicing on some of these communes that had Farms that had functioning Farms that you know provided 70% of the food that the people living there eight I had I have tremendous respect for that wing of the hippie movement people need to realize too that there has been an underground psychedelic movement that has existed at least since the time Albert Hoffman for synthesized LSD and it’s been it’s been underground Adam definitely reach the certain Peak or Apex in the late 60s the mid-to-late 60s but as the state became more repressive and totalitarian towards the use of psychedelic medicines the movement just went deeper underground and that’s that’s one of the that’s something else I think we we have to thank the real hippies for is that one at one of their roles in the grand scheme of things as I see it is that they keep these medicines and circulation and these medicines allow people to reconnect with the Earth and what I would call the guy in mind on a really deep non-intellectual Primal level in a life-altering way will you see things and learn lessons that will stick with you that will alter your perception reality permanently for the better that’s one of the things that I think hippies of really done for the counterculture and that’s one of the functions I think rainbow gathering serve that a lot of people don’t realize that they’ve never been to one I mean they are essentially group psychedelic ceremonies you’re not required to take psychedelics but there’s those medicines are being used and they’re being used by a lot of people and you’re participating whether you’re ingesting those medicines or not and I think that was one of the strategies that that people adopted I mean the first rainbow gathering was 1974 and I think at that point you know that the hardcore hippies who weren’t turning back who would who would dropped out fully and completely in their mind spiritually there was no turning back for them they realize that to keep their culture alive and they needed to continually recruit and the rainbow gatherings have served that purpose I mean thousands of people stumble upon the national rainbow gathering every year and are never the same again I’m glad you brought that up I kind of tell people now anybody who’s watched the movie Avatar and enjoyed it is paying homage to Ayahuasca and Amazonian psychedelic Shamanism because the Tree of Souls is based on the vine of Souls which is the translation of Ayahuasca and I heard from Daniel pinchbeck that it didn’t put should come as no surprise that James Cameron had had the a by waska ceremonial traditional Ayahuasca experience before writing that so it’s definitely flows that all of the translucent fluorescent alien otherworldly life-forms depicted and and and all of that come from the tryptamine experience if you will end yeah it’s been Terence McKenna said it one point I don’t know how they keep a lid on this stuff so it’s definitely that function in that role and you know I like I can now there are you know that Santo dime a legal precedent Clinton pass the Religious Freedom revitalization Act or something to that something to that effect and Terence McKenna assist talked about you know I don’t know if you said at one point in the lecture I don’t know if you’ve noticed this but the system is not going out it’s not handing out rights to people not handing out civil rights it’s not handing you know it’s not handing out to the for the oppressed and minority or minority populations who have who feel that their human rights are not being respected to say the least for psychedelic Society to to emerge and take hold it it would have to be there have to be a second telegram pollution and if anything is like the precursor to that it’s it’s sort of veiled but I mean even in in Lord of the Rings there’s references to the halflings leaf and you know there’s all these pop culture references to do his medicine is and I think that you know with the maps that the big an organization that’s trying to get clinical studies done with MDMA and all that stuff in there psilocybin studies being done it’s it’s not going to be a taboo thing it’s it’s it’s coming dancing to the volunteer for specific. Of time and work on specific projects for us at different times of the year we get most of our interns during the summer but we get interns year-round and we have in our volunteers so we have Educators we have people who are research Affiliates and who published research and use the center is one of their professional affiliations we have research assistants who helped them we do work with events so we do some Outreach events I think on Wednesday we’re going to UCLA sextravaganza which is been happening for several years on UCLA’s campus that we usually set up a booth are we do that with other things around town we’ve also have members some of our volunteers go to conferences all over the world and represent us at different places and in different areas apparently were very popular in Melbourne just found out from a friend who’s been living in Australia for the past couple years I can’t I guess we’ll have to go there at some point cool it’s a new cloud-based model it’s elegant and overhead in the neighborhood drama and that there’s a lot of reasons to transcend that six location and you can if you can be a mobile you know unit then you can just take your your your laptop and projector and some you know what your handouts or whatever you have in this b a anywhere and then again because through using Skype and using other types of internet programs you know we can get into a classroom you know that might not be able to bring us there physically but we can still do it will set it up on our end and and just stream live stream wherever we need to be and it’s very helpful to cuz we so we have volunteers I think are farthest away volunteer that we’ve had so far was in Trinidad so we can have volunteers from anywhere in the world who can work with us medication programs and so they help us Creator update or education resources in our reference materials and putting together things to help teachers facilitate this in their classes they might actually be one of our Educators we train people to go out to those classes and to give presentations to places we have research assistants to make come in with a certain amount of background knowledge and how to do academic research and some come in just wanted to learn it and so we trained them and they work with people who are doing research in various aspects of positive sexuality and so some of them get to co-author papers and some of them get to work on the ground floor of research happening and get to really get into what that is and have a voice and have an influence in what’s being done in the academic world and this is course then starts to affect policy when we’re putting scientific research in front of people and saying here this is what the says that’s not the correct or let them besides these aspects and that can be very very helpful we work with other organizations so and CSF the National Coalition for sexual freedom is one of our sort of co-working his nation’s the community academic Consortium for research on alternative sexualities we work with them as well yeah I’m getting chills yeah I’m getting chills cuz this is a lot more than I bargained for and actually seeking a lot of what you’re describing and to have yeah we hope we have a good bit of time last time feeling compelled to ask you a little bit about I guess hey if you’re into taboos right blowing them there is all I ever believed starting this week there’s going to be the biggest psychedelic science conference in the history of humanity happening in the Bay Area it’s put together by that multidisciplinary Association for psychedelic studies and the there’s a lot of really important cutting-edge legal for the first time in decades studies happening all over the world with psilocybin you know I gave magic mushrooms and MDMA and Ayahuasca and marijuana and peyote and I will gain a number of other synthetic and natural organic you could say psychedelic compounds in a lot of it is at this point in this stage of the Renaissance of research it’s really about proving the safety the relative safety of different compounds getting the dosage to be sort of understood better at also having some really important clinical trials around ending ending addiction to harmful drugs ending cigarette addiction end-of-life anxiety sexual abuse and Trauma and PTSD from War veterans there’s all these different the demographics that are starting to have really groundbreaking results and they’re doing you know they’re putting in the millions of dollars to do the the research for all this and so I bring that up just to say that this is an interesting juncture for me because the a cultural cliche about sex drugs and rock and roll and you know the way that the culture of inebrians is starting to move a large part due to Raves and festivals it’s moving more towards entheogens than just Coke and heroin and meth and booze there’s more opportunities for people who are coming into their sexuality to have access to psychedelic experiences and so there’s the new Alchemy of innocent in these Generations between sex drugs and rock and roll and if it’s it’s it’s it’s a lot more sophisticated and advanced and and and just more diverse in many ways than it was in the 60s when it was you know Acid Rock and LSD and other birth of the the hippie movement in the 60s but I’m wondering if you have in your position they’re come across any any any people who are interested in in rigorous academic study of what this new sex and drugs and rock and roll Paradigm it is shaping up to become if there’s anyone interested in that that you know of he’s been there are definitely people who are starting who are doing research on these topics and very often the connection that ends up happening in the academic research is you know if we’re looking at the sex drugs and rock and roll that of course is going to look at the outcomes and too often I think the the outcome that gets stressed is okay so what’s the what’s the public health issue so is it possible or is it likely that people are might be transmitting STIs because they might be under the influence of something or maybe they can’t we do we have to worry about consent if someone is under the influence of something that then means that they cannot now consent to what happens at that point so what happens if everybody who’s involved have done that so where does that line get drawn so I think a lot of the issues that have come up in recent research has been either on public health topics around STI transmission or on consent topics recognizing that at least by law if someone is inebriated for example they can now no longer consent to sexual activity okay so what happens if everybody involved. That’s so interesting yet that’s exactly what I’ve been actually encountering and in just by life experiences it’s there’s there’s a lot of people now who were you can say you were having expanded Consciousness through empty agentic use meaning it’s kind of a nice way of saying psychedelic no drugs but but that’s an important consideration because just because you feel like you’re enlightened than that one with God doesn’t mean that you’re immune from being the perpetrator with that Enlightenment that you don’t think you have a potential for abuse and even if it’s not that sort of shady you know where that sort of Insidious there’s also just the issue you’re not in your body if you’re having an out-of-body ecstatic psychedelic experience how how do you get even if you can send it to the idea of something earlier in the evening that has to be held through somehow and if you lose the if you become somebody else or part of your higher self or whatever it could be theirs that’s some chicky territory for sure yeah so that’s I guess there’s you know that I’ve seen like at electronic dance music events you can call him Rave but that’s kind of more you know probably more accurate term these days cuz there’s within that whole world there’s different camps and it’s more no more more bride to just called electronic dance music these days but you know there is there’s sort of harm reduction education Outreach groups that put out one sheet kind of look like glass CD mailer cards you know about business matters and they have kind of a profile of what the different substances how did how to test and make sure that they’re real or are what you’re getting it like that there’s that whole harm reduction education Outreach approach that is kind of like what you’re talking about but it’s for the party scene in just for best and better practices around that but I could see that they’re being a sum interest group of people where they would want to see things the way you’re talking about it cuz I actually no way you’re framing it it it feels like there’s a lot more due diligence for people that want to be credible and respectable and using best practices to actually think with some of these analytical tools so I’m hoping you’ll be great if there was some overlap or or or Synergy with all this stuff I think more and more what is happening as we’re seeing the people who are actually involved in all of these different spaces you know the people were actually doing whatever it is we’re talking about having more influence on the research that’s being conducted so that it creates a more authentic overall experience and I think it adds a level of legitimacy to the research so rather than a researcher sort of from on high saying well I’m going to study this group and I think what they’re doing may not be safe and so we know the perspective that I’m going to come about with this is that well this is already inherently unsafe and now I’m going to show you why it’s in safe and I think more and more we have researchers who are in these communities who are in these faces or doing all of these things and you say you know maybe we need to do is talk to the people who were actually doing this and not talk to them with a preconceived notion of what’s going on or what they’re experiencing or what may be happening but go in just as a hey could give us some information to tell us about what’s happening and I think we’re seeing more of that so there has been research on for example like barebacking and there’s been research on sex workers experiences and there’s been research on sort of the the spiritual some of the spiritual Connections in the spiritual extremes that can be experienced through extreme SM activities light hookah coals and those kinds of things so we’re seeing more and more of that happening where people who are actually in these groups are part of the subcultures are also crossovers into the academic life and we’re just seeing an amazing amount of research that starting to Bubble to the surface and get a little bit of space. I think this research has been getting done for quite a while but it can be really hard to get it published because some of the academic Publishers don’t want to hear about it and I want you to my is any of these things so if they publish something on it they want to be really careful so with our journal and with some of the other journals out there we’ve been able to bridge. Cap and actually be able to show some I feel like more authentic stories well absolutely will now in this world have so many The Gatekeepers being dissolved by the power of the internet I feel like you know there’s a lot of bad journalism or untrained journalism so there’s got to be a lot of bad or untrained or Incredible or uncredible research but maybe it’s the methodology that can be what’s the word sort of feel like I could imagine what as you were speaking I was imagining will wouldn’t it be great to train the you know that like the anthropological participation observation ethnography kind of model but if you were to train if you were coming from that subculture and you wanted to sort of document your tribe and produce your own ethnography kind of amongst your friends kind of tabulate experiences and collect notes insured compare notes is there was you recommend any kind of Crash Course doing data collection for different types of research paper I’m doing ethnography in the field and sort of how that works and how you can sort of pull everything together there’s a really good little guidebooks you know a quick online search for for some of these guys are out there and ask her if she is amazing stuff I love doing a photography by the way I think it’s an incredible tool that doesn’t get use nearly enough and and it got a lot of researchers a colleague of mine she recently did a photographic ethnographic working with lgbtq Foster Youth and homeless Youth and kind of went out gave them all cameras and said take photographs of Your World of your life of who you are, and they did a whole art show you know like found a gallery in Downtown LA and just played everyone’s photographs and and you know really got people connected to them and seeing them as people who have life experiences and they’re not just sort of a category of disadvantaged kids so yeah I think there’s there’s an easy guide books out there just like a quick you can find some quick little things of how to do ethnography and how to do that and but I think a lot of that to starts with her own storytelling so things that you do and things that others do and and all the bloggers out there and everything of these are all forms of ethnography relay yeah that’s cool it’s just that it’s exciting and hopeful cuz I feel that I’m at a point where I’m doing kind of pseudo-scientific Rogue radical research that’s way too far out for any government agency or any academic institution to touch with a ten-foot pole so it’s it’s kind of on me and my colleagues and friends 2 do this sort of underground research but then hope that it it’s done in a way that it can be respectable or it can be legitimated later you know but it is probably good to do what you’re suggesting and actually have some some templates for collecting the data that mean okay here’s what would our experiment yielded and here’s the methodology in the procedure and you can test it on your own Hardy or lab or whatever replicate what you’ve done and so can you give enough information that would allow somebody else to replicate and get similar results in their own place or find totally different results which is also fascinating injured and interesting and yeah and I think that’s really I mean that’s science that is science Sciences pushing boundaries and science is you now let’s try a new thing and see what happens and science is telling a new story or New Perspective of a story and you know I think that that’s been lost over the past many years Society The Sciences inquiry science is asking questions and wondering why thing happens and how something happens and trying to figure that out and I think that we’ve sort of collectively as a larger society have sort of lost that Focus write the word crowdsourced crowd-source funding crowdsourced ideas and editing and an art I mean you were talking about that at that photo gallery exhibit and that’s a great example if you would call that a crowd-sourced ethnographic oh yeah photojournalism nice oh yeah that’s cool that’s that’s exciting time so I’m also wondering now do you have do you do you or your organization the Center provide any kind of consulting services or any kind of where you could be hired or you could be sort of commissioned to do research or to consult on Research I don’t know that we’re I don’t know that anybody is really hired to do research cuz wouldn’t it be fantastic if someone will pay for that but that doesn’t happen if we do get hired as consultants for a variety of things so either individuals within the organization or the collective organization May consult on certain projects or consult on like creative curriculum for a particular thing and we have individuals who are consulted on court cases and I’m legal issues so so there’s a lot of that we also get hired by professionals like to teach professional workshops on various topics so that happens as well because we’re a nonprofit although those things are often we you know ask for fee cuz usually the people who were asking for these services are people who can pay for it but what going out to the schools we’re going to colleges in touch or we have a student group asked us to come and do something with them or like what you know we go to somebody’s community of answer something we may ask for an honorarium but we’re going to do this stuff for free so we really depend on our donors and our contributors and the people who support us to kind of give us the funding that we need in order to do what we want to do and and to publishing and all the other stuff so our journals available for free most of our Outreach staff and education program is all for free so yeah a lot of what we do depends on donations as opposed to people actually hiring us officially to do something right on that sounds like a healthy well-rounded multi Revenue stream nonprofit you’re definitely fulfilling your mission in so many beautiful dimensions and I’m just really happy to know that we’ve connected to some really feel better about living in the world with you more offline 2 just to explore some of these Consulting opportunities that you have and see what we’re about and all of that stuff were completely volunteer so none of us are paid for what we do I don’t run a paycheck nobody wants a paycheck that’s completely volunteer and yeah we’re just we’re just trying to let you know we just try to bring it enough funds to keep going and to keep doing what we’re doing and to expand so we’re actually going to be expanding our face-to-face education program out to Chicago over the next few months so Craig can you do that that’s well thank you so much that’s great I feel like it’s it’s really refreshing to to hear that there are people out there who are so dedicated to the cause that it’s that you did not just going to slam the door in your face if you don’t write a check if you know the first five minutes if you’re not going to bill me for this podcast interview right now about an hour into it is do you have a sort of committee or task force or team or just even a person who is either because they are a trauma Survivor or because it’s just near and dear to their hearts whatever reason is there you do consent workshops in self-defense or rape and assault prevention and any any more of the or any any of the sort of preventative and treatment kind of education unpreparedness we do have programs around consent we don’t really specifically talk about self defense or or right prevention in the standard sense so we don’t really talk about here’s what you can do to prevent being raped we talked about here’s what you can do to not rape someone because really this is not on the victim this is on the perpetrator but we also talked about you know here’s other ways that you might think about your sexual self and your identity in the power dynamics that you may interact with and find consensual outlets for some of your interests and behaviors and the citiz and you know we talked about a wide range of those things so it would be great if the people who are doing the Rape Crisis counseling and who are just in the trenches of dealing with battered women and in and going in and and doing you know investigations to catch meant to prosecute the perpetrators of all ages if they were I would let it would be great if in it you know in a perfect world they were seeking you all to educate themselves on better prevention and better version or diversion from the criminal whole that the response like they’re coming as the First Responders two incidents that would have been prevented by a proper education on all sides right and we do have we do have information so some of our researchers and and because we have people who are social workers who have conducted research through us who have published on how to do how to have a sex positive approach to handling victims how to have a sex positive approach to handling offenders and that these approaches can really help reduce crime can reduce negative stigma can reduce it comes cool is that would that be on your website or at some if I if I can follow up with you later cool okay well alright I feel like it’s this is yes. A real blessing and I just want to thank you again for your time and generous sharing of great info so with that said do you want to give the website and any other maybe upcoming events or anything else you’d like to promote and the website is positive sexuality. Org journal and that’s Journal of positive sexuality. Org we have our anniversary party coming up this July so if you want to be invited and want to be a part of that anniversary party will be a fundraiser you can contact me at Emily Emily at positive sexuality. Org or you can go to our website and put in your email address and then you’re on our newsletter list and you’ll get information through our newsletter about our party and we’re hoping we’re putting together an academic conference for next year so look on our website check things out if you go to sex pause khan.com so s e x p o s c o n. Com there’s going to be updated information they’re probably starting in the next couple of weeks for our positive sexuality conference coming up in 2018 in Burbank all right that’s very exciting thank you again yeah that’s me alright thank you so much again and I will hopefully I’ll be in touch soon thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite sex if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at kontrapunkt. Com Thomas gay

Sexorcism the Tantric Opera Behind the Scenes TPP97

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This episode is a post-ceremony recap with Angelica, the shamanic nurse at my top in the Sexorcism the Tantric Opera documentary. We sequentially discuss the behind the scenes and compare notes on what we experienced internally and externally from beginning to end.

We also discuss the implications for sexology, sexual healing, and criminal justice as this experimental research continues to rock the boat of orthodox everything.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 97 in this episode I’m doing a recap from the sexorcism the tantric Opera the documentary with Angelica one of the shamanic nurses who you see in the film and then I’m also going to include the audio from the 5 minutes trailer for the documentary so if you haven’t gone over to Tantra Punk. Com sexorcism to see the film it’s free to watch online so please go ahead and do that and hopefully this episode will will get you excited for that again please as with anything I put out there’s a implicit trigger warning but I will double emphasize it because we’re talking about some of the the most extreme forms of abuse and violation that were taking a stand and rising up as shamanic Sexual Healing Wounded Warriors to make a difference in the world so if if it all you feel squeamish about going any further this would be the time to stop because obviously is going to get into some dramatic material but it’s also very empowering Inglorious to see the work unfold and evolve so please enjoy namaste Contra secret spot Sexual Healing work and the different modalities of psychedelic Shamanism not bringing sacred sacraments and the invocation of the divine feminine and use of psychedelic trance music which has the adrenal lising effect and a shamanic journeying Sonic driving affect this is kind of like Ghostbusters needs the Playboy channel is cirrhotic ghostbusting There’s real tangible medically measurable physiological effects of Tantra psychedelic sexual exorcism just calling for me I feel as very authentic because I am a survivor and because I absolutely had to walk this path out of absolute necessity your nervous system is always waiting for that moment when am I going to be held by the tribe when is the tribe going to do my soul retrieval when is everyone going to circle up and shout down these possessing spirits that are making me slit my wrists or you know cut myself or have an eating disorder or be a sexual predator or whatever it is all of the deformations of character and personality disorders and neuroses they’re all intrusions that would have been quickly and easily dealt with by a shamanic culture but because we’re lacking that we have to kind of hack it together. without inviting my parents I’ll just say it was a latchkey kid because we live in a patriarchy and it was a broken home and my mother was doing her best to put food on the table and provide for us but so much was lacking for me it was very attractive to find drugs in tribal Street culture my friends and Drug buddy initiators Brothers you know we shared needles saying you know Three Musketeers if we ain’t one of us gets AIDS we’re all going to share it so we all go down together they were the same ones that put me up to prostitution and said come on man we’re doing it you got to pull your weight around here I was 13 to be crippled in this way as a survivor in really negatively affects your ability to function it’s PTSD its shell shocked it’s flashbacks has you know everything is a trigger smells site sounds colors a person who is in the middle who is the receiver of the healing there hopefully being held in a manner that haven’t been held in since infancy really so there’s a level of returning to that total surrender to Total vulnerability where you can feel safe enough to go into the places that your psyche has kept you from for however many decades the medical and psychotherapeutic Sciences are missing is the shamanic and psychedelic epistemological perspective the hippies have been laughed at and marginalized and made fun of by the straight Square people child rape is not a laughing matter and adult rape is not a laughing matter to exaltation of the Priestess class that we are attempting to email beautify through song and dance and ritual and now all these beautiful festivals and Devotion to the Divine it’s not just a bunch of hippies you know being freaks how do you know this is a matter of life and death I didn’t expect to make it this far in life my sense of being all here Consolidated and purified and present my intactness can’t wait to figure out a way to really measure the before and after of how much more energetic Integrity do you have after this kind of privilege I feel like Heather will be a time when when I’m free ultimate leave totally free and get to start living my life the way most people take for granted Angelica what the fuck was going on in there from your perspective well give me like a okay so how about just the same thing we did last time which is like that so I’m curious cuz I was running around getting prepped and then and then and then I asked you and you decided you were going to go all the way here I can go all the way and play a starring role and I was so stoked I don’t think I’ve ever I don’t think I’ve ever been more excited more not excited but you know when spinal tap got back together that was the feeling I had like you reconciliation and you know because you were you had really been having second thoughts and feeling doubtful and I wanted to validate that and under that and not for sure push you or pressure or anything but by some miracle we could change your mind and it was like if I could have one fucking wish in this lifetime I think I would have spent it to have that happen but I swear I wasn’t using any black cat Magic tactics in mind what made me change my mind beautiful I had told you on the phone like yeah I’ll just be there cuz I already told I already gave you my word and so but I think the sentiments of the other females here and like realizing that my concerns were were also their concerns and I think we’re just socialized into I mean even pornography I think the way that we’ve been like I mean even that’s been stigmatized you know to like I know like it’s something that’s taboo and so the fact that this was going to be recorded and I identity and all this kind of like it’s a lot to ask and yeah but then I realized knows like what do I have to lose and then just being here and and wanting to like step up to the plate and hold space in the in a new way or maybe you’re in a deeper way than what I had before and is one for it I think despite you know my gut feelings of the beginning of things kind of changed and the incubator that we created with some yeah I just it was it was nice and even I mean we all kind of just like showed up not knowing what was going to happen like what it that even looks like in the filmmaker didn’t even know how the set was going to look like so we kind of all is just did our part and put it all together and it came out really amazing and magical you know not knowing what’s next but just going with it and it just Aegis blossoms in is amazing I’m really curious what what stands are for you is for is the timeline of I mean oh oh probably ask you you know for a little bit and clarification what not but just if you were to go ahead and tell the story from starting from when you decided that you were going to be involved and then it became a lot of a lot of just technical stuff like just okay. You to head this is like being on set this is like any other production just lighting and positioning in rehearsal and props and running through things and trying to yeah I mean people will have seen the the edited footage so isn’t there’s not much behind the scenes that’s that exciting I guess just whatever comes to mind I think for me it was like just insecurities that I was projecting you know like what am I going to look like a camera or like is my face, show am I doing this right blah blah blah but then like once you’re there is just like at some point I think we’ve been like took our masks but um yeah I arrive and you know we have we have our meal and we’re just talking and getting to know each other. the other people involved and 12 setting up I think I took a nap waiting around and I don’t know I think even even the timeline was because we did not stick to the timeline of what it is that was going to happen in the ceremony but it was beautiful I mean we started off as usual you know with intention and prayer and just like a group huddle of like what was the explicit was to be expected and I mean once to take the medicine the medicine is basically with takes over and and Collies called in and everything else is just the richest following a going with it and so the way that played out with no we have the opening prayer chanting and locations of are guides in the Mighty Beanz and opening up the portal and there downloading or starting to starting to feel like spensive and then I mean this time I was I was at the at the head and holding space and being the archetype of the mother do you want to back up to the where we were it was kind of like a I was kind of doing like a a drumming a bit and we’re curious to for me the dancing thing was was that was my first and Most Blessed opportunity and in life so far less far to be trusted with two female dakini yogini dancers trusting my grace in my my sort of thumb are we were all have we were headed that way this is this is the thing this is the thing that that I hope is clear and conveyed is that sexual politics and relationship Dynamics and personality in Eagle all these things were ostensibly taking her shoes off and I’m leaving them and hanging up or jackets and you know sort of showing up as pure energetic Essence with an intention to create a maximum healing synergistic effect that doesn’t involve negative mind chatter and one-upmanship and politics and and all that stuff so in order for this really surrender and have into feel trusted my anxiety was was like well leading up to let’s say was say oh I really hope they both feel and know and trust not just been but Kali enough to be guiding been fully to the point where if he moves Us in whatever ways you know he sees fit and he is like in quotes because who is he now it is he just himself as is you know or is he now a conduit a vessel of this invoked Shakti Kali wisdom I mean so for you two to be willing to boldly go into this dance where I had taken my tracks and in this is my opportunity to create some sort of some sort of symmetry of movement you know a sacred geometrical compounding of dimensionality with the whole nother circuit system circuitry and interface the three of us in a way that manifest a hyperdimensional potential for this the track to be played out in the Shakti the flow and always think so that was you both surrendered to be my Canvas OR the canvas of this dancing Artistry and I am dying to know what your thought process was going to be forced to do the moonwalk or something I’m going to have to do the written Rodger rabbit nervous about I think also I mean along with like already knowing okay this is a commitment and like already taken the medicine so the spaceship is taken off. No other choice I think it’s part of the process of like trusting you know just like I have a deep respect for you and and I trust you and so I’m like trusting the process and and yeah I also like trusting the goddess and so I also felt the way she came pretty much into all of us into all of our beings as vessels and so it’s kind of like became this like braids or this it wasn’t a choreograph it was just you know I was feeling out energy and it has a different kind of getting felt up energy and and how do I also just because we’ve already we’ve we’ve practiced this before so you know there was a deeper level of trust and like the first time but I guess it’s always nerve-wracking but letting go I think it’s another lesson there and yeah did you ever again for me to it was I had to think did the how do I be absolutely equal in my worshipful where worshiping devotion I’ve got a quote for me I had to cook a what how am I going to not leave anyone in the cold did you feel like I did a good job of balancing the attention and not leaving anyone else I feeling like a third wheel in the dancing fisa it was in life it was it was not about me you know what I mean so I didn’t have that like attention like you know and even when that was diverges like I’m in spirit so I’m dancing with spirit I am still part of it but not you know they’re not then I go in word and I’m like my own dancing partner has his my partner but it’s not like this isn’t about me or is this isn’t about me feeling like victimized and left until now not not at all like me and her coming together was actually really beautiful to Healing session that needed to be I kind of a kind of anticipated that I felt like there was going to be vicarious but that’s the whole point is that condition I knew I was going to get the cherry on top at the end so I wasn’t worried about no I was cool because I felt like we were me and her were able to do the sort of EMT shamanic you know paramedic deal for you you know just to some of the work it wasn’t as just kind of like some fine-tuning to be done before that’s what I’m most excited to see the footage of is like what that look like and how cuz you could really see there’s some other higher-dimensional intelligence that’s really putting all these Advanced Aikido moves in this sequence that where everything is just so much so much electrical engineering of the flow of energy in a so anyway yeah that’s cool we’re all going to be moved in different ways you know it says downloading either a different like downloading a different either I mean it’s the same entities the same the same Spirit in the same intention except because we’re all different than people you know we’re going to going to be different and so it was really beautiful to see and witness Missy her her downloads you know one end the way that she was moving even away from like the timeline that we had written you know and and and you know I wasn’t supposed to be a patient in this you know until like that Divergence was was unforeseen but it was within the flow of the tracks and it actually work the way that you know there are built up and even as far as timing goes and the rhythm of the next is kind of like graduating or your life the gradual deepening of the next stage in the next process in the next Tuesday for healing so I was really not expecting to be so completely hammered by that dosage I was fucked up and I could barely stand and barely speak and the lights were so bright and so obnoxious to me I mean it wasn’t it wasn’t I shouldn’t say obnoxious it was just it was just it was intense the lighting and I am in in it I’ve never I’ve had beautiful experiences in the daylight like looking at the sun through my eyelids and seeing beautiful cathedral sort of refractions and stained glass kind of beautiful so it’s it’s not like light and mushrooms don’t mix because it can be super beautiful during the day in the forest to the sun shining right on you and you just bathing in that for some reason though with all these bright Film Production artificial lights he was just I felt like I was in the Netherworld limbo some some like a like a space-age airlock or something it just felt I couldn’t really see and feel the texture of the Goddess the way I normally do it felt more like it was inside of a gas inside of a light bulb and all of the mystical things that I normally able to see with my third eye I could barely see anything even with my eyes closed it was it took away a lot of the visual Dimension which was kind of kind of from what’s the word on just disorienting and I wasn’t used to have it so but by the time we get to the Kali provocation fairly I’m feeling which was the most the most deep rich chocolate intense powerful thing we I felt like I was most curious to see how how we were all going to respond to mutually being in that track together and it’s and it’s and I often feel like like a collapsed to my knees were just faceplant to the goddess and I’ve just surrender all my ego all my power I mean things that don’t even think about in my college-age students like you want to be very very careful about this because it’s within it’s the state of California guidelines as it’s within 3 years if you are 17 and under but that don’t that starts at like 12 so you know like between an 8 year old and 11 year old or 12 year old knots that’s not going to hold like that’s not going to be acceptable and have to start with the age of 12 and going up you can’t backtrack it so if the person younger than 12 it’s still really really illegal and and not going to work in your favor but 12 and up their kind of looking okay so if you’re 12 in the person you’re interested in is a little bit older than maybe but you need to be careful with that and I think the big problem comes in is when we have people around the cussed so you have somebody’s 15 16 17 to date someone and then they turn 18 you know the other partner turns 18 and now what so now you’re not supposed to be in this relationship any longer and now all of a sudden you cannot consent to this relationship I don’t know I feel like there’s a I understand the laws and I understand the reasons for it I think it’s great to protect people but I also think we don’t give teens credit for being actual sexual persons who could make choices for themselves yeah I was certainly with a lot of older women when I was under 18 so that would have I would have been upset and sad if anyone tried to step in and on that but it’s gendered announcer complicated certainly you I don’t know I guess in my area would have been that just as a rule of thumb male sexual energy was just kind of demonised is being Territorial. And now it’s headed lesbian couple it’s a female identified female body young women who were yeah it’s a different just tell me a different Dynamic so who knows where it’ll lead at this point but at least the center for positive sexuality is here to have these conversations and do you have do you have do you want to talk about a bit about what your your passion is as an educator in the professor like what are you do you have any research that you’re doing your Department’s or you kind of thumb yeah like kind of locking into a specific topics that interest you amongst all these things I mean most of my work still centers around sexuality and I usually teach introductory an advanced human sexuality courses I also teach other classes so I teach mainly in sociology departments so you know I teach about society and culture and people but I really like teaching about deviance and we research on deviance and identity and and all that kind of stuff so a lot of my research is about BDSM is about sex work is about feminist pornography is a kinds of fun stuff I’m presenting at a conference next month on a paper that came out about a year ago and the Journal of sex medicine my colleagues and I did a study on looking at BDSM as a Leisure activity so if we can say fine it’s not pathology let’s stop talking about it that way so okay then what is it and we thought well maybe it’s fits Leisure and if we look at leisure as not just a Pastime but as something that you identify with something that makes you feel whole makes you feel fulfilled is something that you choose to do then then I think it can fit into that category so that’s one of the big one of the big research projects I worked on very recently that’s awesome you have to make it makes me think that if I were to have to explain anthropologically or take that sort of the view of being an alien trying to understand what people are doing her I would kind of say well when when kids are pre-pubescent they make believe and they create epic worlds of Adventure and fantasy role-play and then when people come of age you become adults and they realize that they have these new toys that develop then they want to use them and actually be imaginative and creative in and use their whole potential of their erogenous imagination and their new toys and then they can actually play freely with each other where you know when when kids are playing playing games that you would consider to be somewhat violent and nature they don’t usually actually harm or kill each other you know so it’s not that hard it’s not that great of a leap of logic right to imagine that adults would reaxis some of that imaginary fun making instincts or hate American culture as we really look down on Leisure we would look down on play and we look down on make-believe and so we decide that’s just for children and it’s not for grown ups and I think that that’s a really horrible horrible perspectives of the world cuz you’re only a child for a very very brief point of your life and you’re an adult for a really really long part of your life and wouldn’t I don’t want to stop playing. Why would you want to grow up ever and so yeah I think of BDSM I think erotic play I feel like yeah it’s just this extension of your creativity and artistic and Tristan and your means of expressing yourself and now you get to have sex so why wouldn’t you add that and everything else thank you for helping to frame it that way cuz that it’s it’s so it’s easier to digest when you when I just have never heard that what that phrase before but it just erotic play being obviously it means that you could incorporate more than just your one monogamous married partner that’s just still only allowed that culturally they by the mainstream the idea of being sexually playful with a group of people in the community of people as a social activity like a cocktail party or a mixer or I mean why can’t you believe make break into play make-believe you know the okay fine I just I’m this is my partner this is the only person I’m going to have sex with her I’m going to be in love with or however you’re defining that but I can pretend for the next hour or two that there’s someone I’ve never met before or that there a superhero or that a magical being or whatever and that can really shift your erotic interest in your erotic pleasure I think you probably would be able to say that it will make a lot of relationships last longer and be more Pap more healthier happier for sustainable resilient cuz you’re not getting bored and giving up and going you know stoic that’s great so do you have a key tell it tell me more about the center and how it how it runs and functions is it kind of like a drop-in center or do you have only certain events at certain times or how does the facility time work out we don’t actually have a physical location most of it exists inside my laptop and out of and that means we don’t have to pay for rent so that’s why we go to where we need to go so you know we have regular meetings happen in my house or one of the other board members houses we do have some events here and there are a lot of our fundraisers or just online to make it easier to reach as many people as possible and of course we’re trying to reach a broader audience than just Los Angeles so we Skype workshops we Skype things we’ve talked to classes in New York and classes in Idaho and you know all over the place so you know we do a lot of different things we also have an academic Journal that you’re positive sexuality it’s free it’s open access anyone is welcome to use it and read it and submit work to it and you know that’s been going we’re now in our third year of publication of that and that is hitting a worldwide audience some of the countries that are accessing this are it’s all over in Australia and in Belgium and in various parts of the UK and it’s hitting parts of Asia Japan so it’s really really great so we have a very wide reach and what we do we have approximately 50 to 60 volunteers who work with us we also have an internship program so we get college students who want internship credits or what the work experience and so they volunteer for a specific. Of time and work on specific projects for us at different times of the year we get most of our interns during the summer but we get interns year-round and we have in our volunteers so we have Educators we have people who are research Affiliates and who published research and use the center is one of their professional affiliations we have research assistants who helped them we do you work with events so we do some Outreach events I think on Wednesday we’re going to UCLA sextravaganza which is been happening for several years on UCLA’s campus that we usually set up a booth are we do that with other things around town we’ve also have members some of our volunteers go to conferences all over the world and represent us at different places and in different areas where they were very popular in Melbourne just found out from a friend who’s been living in Australia for past couple years so I can’t I guess we’ll have to go there at some point cool it’s a new cloud-based model it’s elegant and overhead in the neighborhood drama and that there’s a lot of reasons to transcend that six location and you can if you can be a mobile you know unit then you can just take your your your laptop and projector and some you know what your handouts or whatever you have in this b a and again because true using Skype and using other types of internet programs you know we can get into a classroom you know that might not be able to bring us there physically but we can still do it will set it up on our end and and just stream live stream wherever we need to be and and it’s very helpful to cuz we so we have volunteers I think are farthest away volunteer that we’ve had so far was in Trinidad so we can have volunteers from anywhere in the world who can work with us medication programs and so they help us Creator update or education resources in our reference materials and putting together things to help teachers facilitate this in their classes they might actually be one of our Educators we train people to go out to those classes and to give presentations to places we have research assistants to make come in with a certain amount of background knowledge and how to do academic research and some come in just wanted to learn it and so we trained them and they work with people who are doing research in various aspects of positive sexuality and so some of them get to co-author papers and some of them get to work on the ground floor of research happening and get to really get into what that is and have a voice and have an influence in what’s being done in the academic world and this is course then starts to affect policy when we’re putting scientific research in front of people and saying here this is what the says that’s not the correct or let them besides these aspects and that can be very very helpful we work with other organizations so and CSF the National Coalition for sexual freedom is one of our sort of co-working his nation’s the community academic Consortium for research on alternative sexualities we work with them as well yeah I’m getting chills yeah I’m getting chills cuz this is a lot more than I bargained for and actually seeking a lot of what you’re describing and to have yeah we hope we have a good bit of time last time feeling compelled to ask you a little bit about I guess hey if you’re into taboos right blowing them there is all I ever believed starting this week there’s going to be the biggest psychedelic science conference in the history of humanity happening in the Bay Area it’s put together by that multidisciplinary Association for psychedelic studies and the there’s a lot of really important cutting-edge legal for the first time in decades studies happening all over the world with psilocybin you know I gave magic mushrooms and MDMA and Ayahuasca and marijuana and peyote and I will gain a number of other synthetic and natural organic you could say psychedelic compounds in a lot of it is at this point in this stage of the Renaissance of research it’s really about proving the safety the relative safety of different compounds getting the dosage to be sort of understood better at also having some really important clinical trials around ending ending addiction to harmful drugs ending cigarette addiction end-of-life anxiety sexual abuse and Trauma and PTSD from War veterans there’s all these different the demographics that are starting to have really groundbreaking results and they’re doing you know they’re putting in the millions of dollars to do the the research for all this and so I bring that up just to say that this is an interesting juncture for me because the a cultural cliche about sex drugs and rock and roll and you know the way that the culture of inebrians is starting to move a large part due to Raves and festivals it’s moving more towards entheogens than just Coke and heroin and meth and booze there’s more opportunities for people who are coming into their sexuality to have access to psychedelic experiences and so there’s the new Alchemy of innocent in these Generations between sex drugs and rock and roll and if it’s it’s it’s it’s a lot more sophisticated and advanced and and and just more diverse in many ways than it was in the 60s when it was you know Acid Rock and LSD and other birth of the the hippie movement in the 60s but I’m wondering if you have in your position they’re come across any any any people who are interested in in rigorous academic study of what this new sex and drugs and rock and roll Paradigm it is shaping up to become if there’s anyone interested in that that you know of he’s been there are definitely people who are starting who are doing research on these topics and very often the connection that ends up happening in the academic research is you know if we’re looking at the sex drugs and rock and roll that of course is going to look at the outcomes and too often I think the the outcome that gets stressed is okay so what’s the what’s the public health issue so is it possible or is it likely that people are might be transmitting STIs because they might be under the influence of something or maybe they can’t we do we have to worry about consent if someone is under the influence of something that then means that they cannot now consent to what happens at that point so what happens if everybody who’s involved have done that so where does that line get drawn so I think a lot of the issues that have come up in recent research has been either on public health topics around STI transmission or on consent topics recognizing that at least by law if someone is inebriated for example they can now no longer consent to sexual activity okay so what happens if everybody involved. That’s so interesting yet that’s exactly what I’ve been actually encountering and in just by life experiences it’s there’s there’s a lot of people now who were you can say you were having expanded Consciousness through empty agentic use meaning it’s kind of a nice way of saying psychedelic no drugs but but that’s an important consideration because just because you feel like you’re enlightened than that one with God doesn’t mean that you’re immune from being the perpetrator with that Enlightenment that you don’t think you have a potential for abuse and even if it’s not that sort of shady you know where that sort of Insidious there’s also just the issue you’re not in your body if you’re having an out-of-body ecstatic psychedelic experience how how do you get even if you can send it to the idea of something earlier in the evening that has to be held through somehow and if you lose the if you become somebody else or part of your higher self or whatever it could be theirs that’s some chicky territory for sure yeah so that’s I guess there’s you know that I’ve seen like at electronic dance music events you can call him Rave but that’s kind of more you know probably more accurate term these days cuz there’s within that whole world there’s different camps and it’s more no more more bride to just called electronic dance music these days but you know there is there’s sort of harm reduction education Outreach groups that put out one sheet kind of look like glass CD mailer cards you know about business matters and they have kind of a profile of what the different substances how did how to test and make sure that they’re real or are what you’re getting it like that there’s that whole harm reduction education Outreach approach that is kind of like what you’re talking about but it’s for the party scene in just for best and better practices around that but I could see that they’re being a sum interest group of people where they would want to see things the way you’re talking about it cuz I actually no way you’re framing it it it feels like there’s a lot more due diligence for people that want to be credible and respectable and using best practices to actually think with some of these analytical tools so I’m hoping you’ll be great if there was some overlap or or or Synergy with all this stuff I think more and more what is happening as we’re seeing the people who are actually involved in all of these different spaces you know the people were actually doing whatever it is we’re talking about having more influence on the research that’s being conducted so that it creates a more authentic overall experience and I think it adds a level of legitimacy to the research so rather than a researcher sort of from on high saying well I’m going to study this group and I think what they’re doing may not be safe and so we know the perspective that I’m going to come about with this is that well this is already inherently unsafe and now I’m going to show you why it’s in safe and I think more and more we have researchers who are in these communities who are in these faces or doing all of these things and you say you know maybe we need to do is talk to the people who were actually doing this and not talk to them with a preconceived notion of what’s going on or what they’re experiencing or what may be happening but go in just as a hey could give us some information to tell us about what’s happening and I think we’re seeing more of that so there has been research on for example like barebacking and there’s been research on sex workers experiences and there’s been research on sort of the the spiritual some of the spiritual Connections in the spiritual extremes that can be experienced through extreme SM activities light hookah coals and those kinds of things so we’re seeing more and more of that happening where people who are actually in these groups are part of the subcultures are also crossovers into the academic life and we’re just seeing an amazing amount of research that starting to Bubble to the surface and get a little bit of space. I think this research has been getting done for quite a while but it can be really hard to get it published because some of the academic Publishers don’t want to hear about it and I want you to my is any of these things so if they publish something on it they want to be really careful so with our journal and with some of the other journals out there we’ve been able to bridge. Cap and actually be able to show some I feel like more authentic stories well absolutely will now in this world have so many The Gatekeepers being dissolved by the power of the internet I feel like you know there’s a lot of bad journalism or untrained journalism so there’s got to be a lot of bad or untrained or Incredible or uncredible research but maybe it’s the methodology that can be what’s the word sort of feel like I could imagine what as you were speaking I was imagining will wouldn’t it be great to train the you know that like the anthropological participation observation ethnography kind of model but if you were to train if you were coming from that subculture and you wanted to sort of document your tribe and produce your own ethnography kind of amongst your friends kind of tabulate experiences and collect notes insured compare notes is there was you recommend any kind of Crash Course doing data collection for different types of research paper I’m doing ethnography in the field and sort of how that works and how you can sort of pull everything together there’s a really good little guidebooks you know a quick online search for for some of these guys are out there and ask her if she is amazing stuff I love doing a photography by the way I think it’s an incredible tool that doesn’t get use nearly enough and and it got a lot of researchers a colleague of mine she recently did a photographic ethnographic working with lgbtq Foster Youth and homeless Youth and kind of went out gave them all cameras and said take photographs of Your World of your life of who you are, and they did a whole art show you know like found a gallery in Downtown LA and just played everyone’s photographs and and you know really got people connected to them and seeing them as people who have life experiences and they’re not just sort of a category of disadvantaged kids so yeah I think there’s there’s an easy guide books out there just like a quick you can find some quick little things of how to do ethnography and how to do that and but I think a lot of that to starts with her own storytelling so things that you do and things that others do and and all the bloggers out there and everything of these are all forms of ethnography relay yeah that’s cool it’s just that it’s exciting and hopeful cuz I feel that I’m at a point where I’m doing kind of pseudo-scientific Rogue radical research that’s way too far out for any government agency or any academic institution to touch with a ten-foot pole so it’s it’s kind of on me and my colleagues and friends 2 do this sort of underground research but then hope that it it’s done in a way that it can be respectable or it can be legitimated later you know but it is probably good to do what you’re suggesting and actually have some some templates for collecting the data that mean okay here’s what would our experiment yielded and here’s the methodology in the procedure and you can test it on your own Hardy or lab or whatever replicate what you’ve done and so can you give enough information that would allow somebody else to replicate and get similar results in their own place or find totally different results which is also fascinating injured and interesting and yeah and I think that’s really I mean that’s science that is science Sciences pushing boundaries and science is you now let’s try a new thing and see what happens and science is telling a new story or New Perspective of a story and you know I think that that’s been lost over the past many years Society The Sciences inquiry science is asking questions and wondering why thing happens and how something happens and trying to figure that out and I think that we’ve sort of collectively as a larger society have sort of lost that Focus write the word crowdsourced crowd-source funding crowdsourced ideas and editing and an art I mean you were talking about that at that photo gallery exhibit and that’s a great example if you would call that a crowd-sourced ethnographic oh yeah photojournalism nice oh yeah that’s cool that’s that’s exciting time so I’m also wondering now do you have do you do you or your organization the Center provide any kind of consulting services or any kind of where you could be hired or you could be sort of commissioned to do research or to consult on Research I don’t know that we’re I don’t know that anybody is really hired to do research cuz wouldn’t it be fantastic if someone will pay for that but that doesn’t happen if we do get hired as consultants for a variety of things so either individuals within the organization or the collective organization May consult on certain projects or consult on like creative curriculum for a particular thing and we have individuals who are consulted on court cases and I’m legal issues so so there’s a lot of that we also get hired by professionals like to teach professional workshops on various topics so that happens as well because we’re a nonprofit although those things are often we you know ask for fee cuz usually the people who were asking for these services are people who can pay for it but what going out to the schools we’re going to colleges in touch or we have a student group asked us to come and do something with them or like what you know we go to somebody’s community of answer something we may ask for an honorarium but we’re going to do this stuff for free so we really depend on our donors and our contributors and the people who support us to kind of give us the funding that we need in order to do what we want to do and and to publishing and all the other stuff so our journals available for free most of our Outreach staff and education program is all for free so yeah a lot of what we do depends on donations as opposed to people actually hiring us officially to do something right on that sounds like a healthy well-rounded multi Revenue stream nonprofit you’re definitely fulfilling your mission in so many beautiful dimensions and I’m just really happy to know that we’ve connected to some really feel better about living in the world with you more offline 2 just to explore some of these Consulting opportunities that you have and see what we’re about and all of that stuff were completely volunteer so none of us are paid for what we do I don’t run a paycheck nobody wants a paycheck that’s completely volunteer and yeah we’re just we’re just trying to let you know we just try to bring it enough funds to keep going and to keep doing what we’re doing and to expand so we’re actually going to be expanding our face-to-face education program out to Chicago over the next few months so Craig can you do that that’s well thank you so much that’s great I feel like it’s it’s really refreshing to to hear that there are people out there who are so dedicated to the cause that it’s that you did not just going to slam the door in your face if you don’t write a check if you know the first five minutes if you’re not going to bill me for this podcast interview right now about an hour into it is do you have a sort of committee or task force or team or just even a person who is either because they are a trauma Survivor or because it’s just near and dear to their hearts whatever reason is there you do consent workshops in self-defense or rape and assault prevention and any any more of the or any any of the sort of preventative and treatment kind of education unpreparedness we do have programs around consent we don’t really specifically talk about self defense or or right prevention in the standard sense so we don’t really talk about here’s what you can do to prevent being raped we talked about here’s what you can do to not rape someone because really this is not on the victim this is on the perpetrator but we also talked about you know here’s other ways that you might think about your sexual self and your identity in the power dynamics that you may interact with and find consensual outlets for some of your interests and behaviors and the citiz and you know we talked about a wide range of those things so it would be great if the people who are doing the Rape Crisis counseling and who are just in the trenches of dealing with battered women and in and going in and and doing you know investigations to catch meant to prosecute the perpetrators of all ages if they were I would let it would be great if in it you know in a perfect world they were seeking you all to educate themselves on better prevention and better version or diversion from the criminal whole that the response like they’re coming as the First Responders two incidents that would have been prevented by a proper education on all sides right and we do have we do have information so some of our researchers and and because we have people who are social workers who have conducted research through us who have published on how to do how to have a sex positive approach to handling victims how to have a sex positive approach to handling offenders and that these approaches can really help reduce crime can reduce negative stigma can reduce it comes cool is that would that be on your website or at some if I if I can follow up with you later cool okay well alright I feel like it’s this is yes. A real blessing and I just want to thank you again for your time and generous sharing of great info so with that said do you want to give the website and any other maybe upcoming events or anything else you’d like to promote and the website is positive sexuality. Org journal and that’s Journal of positive sexuality. Org we have our anniversary party coming up this July so if you want to be invited and want to be a part of that anniversary party will be a fundraiser you can contact me at Emily Emily at positive sexuality. Org or you can go to our website and put in your email address and then you’re on our newsletter list and you’ll get information through our newsletter about our party and we’re hoping we’re putting together an academic conference for next year so look on our website check things out if you go to sex pause khan.com so s e x p o s c o n. Com there’s going to be updated information they’re probably starting in the next couple of weeks for our positive sexuality conference coming up in 2018 in Burbank all right that’s very exciting thank you again yeah that’s me alright thank you so much again and I will hopefully I’ll be in touch soon thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite sex if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at kontrapunkt. Com Thomas gay

Shamanic Revolution 2.0 with Shonagh Home TPP96

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In this episode I’m joined by Shonagh Home, a high priestess of the sacred mushroom to whom I deeply bow! We have been allies for several years now and this is her second appearance on the show. We discuss cultural transformation, ecology, activism and more from a radical psychedelic shamanic perspective.

She blesses us with two powerful poems, and countless gems of insight with which to break spells, get well and get free!

About Shonagh:

Shonagh Home is a shamanic therapist, teacher, writer and poet. Her specialized private sessions and retreats are probing and revelatory, assisting clients to break chronic, self-defeating patterns, and move into empowered personal sovereignty. Shonagh is an international public speaker on the subject of visionary shamanic-spirit medicine, a voice for stewardship of the honeybees, and a teacher on the subject of Traditional Foods. She is author of the books, ‘Ix Chel Wisdom: 7 Teachings from the Mayan Sacred Feminine,’ ‘Love and Spirit Medicine,’ ‘Poetic Whispers from the Green Realms,’ and ‘Honeybee Wisdom: A Modern Melissa Speaks.’
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http://www.shonaghhome.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 96 it’s a distinguished honor I have here to be on Skype with Shana home who is one of the top mushroom priestesses is it living on Earth today and it’s been a serious hero enough mine and I deeply bow down to her we’ve been sort of parallel Journeys over the years and we did an interview discussion a few couple years back called shamanic Revolution we talked about her background so you can you can refer to that episode to get caught up on more of her life story and accomplishments M but we’re now just going to kind of roll into updates from what she’s been doing and in her you know sort of college in alchemical cauldron of spiritual intellectual development really sophisticated critique and understanding of what we’re up against and what some skills and tools some tactics we can use on the front lines of the shamanic Revolution to heal and liberate and Empower ourselves in each other and now more than ever I think our medicine is being sought out in your medicine for sure is of the highest quality so if you want to just say a few words what you been up to since we last talked and then I’m sure we’ll have lots of Defense at 2 to about what’s happening show but thank goodness I will say that I put a new book out recently called poetic Whispers from the green realm and I will definitely read some of that poetry and so there’s two chapters I wrote for that book and then there’s 50 some odd poems and so I will say that I never wrote poetry before I start working with the mushroom and I never didn’t and so a couple years after I start working with the mushroom and I think we’re now going on 5 years here poetry started coming to me and so when I started doing a little research you know to write the chapters for this book I discovered that the original poets were the shamans and that poetry NC igenex substances were directly connected to Poetic inspiration and so you know we have the editors of the Norse Traditions is lengthy poetic Mythic story and in there they speak of the Mead which is honey wine which was spiked it would be spiked with medicinal herbs that would be spiked with inebriating herbs and so it was it was said that whoever drinks from which becomes a poet or a scholar and then we have Soma art of India and that was also associated with poetic inspiration and then we have the Oracles of Delphi and DeDona and the delphic Oracle as they would whether they were breathing in the esalen gases that took them into hydrant States or they were actually drinking psychoactive Bundchen’s they would prophesy and poetic hexameter and so it is it’s a kind of meter you know like poetry is is metered know they’ll be no 3 4 lines you know and then there’s stanzas and what not and I mean it can be very intricate in intricate and how the poem is this is created and so you know some of the greatest poets where the The Bard’s from from my people that the Celts and those people studied for 15 years and nothing was written down and and then they were given the title Olam and and so these these folks were they had to memorize something like 20,000 different you know poems and and and and myths and stories and and what not and so an interesting ly something that the that I read in my research that The Bard’s would do is they would go into a very dark kind of Tavern Thai place and and then spend time there until they received poetic inspiration now that’s interesting because there is a practice that you can do to turn on the pie Neil to to turn on your own energy Mt where you stay in Pitch Darkness or you know. Of time whatever it is a few weeks if you let you know what your month or whatever it is and that will you know turn on your your DMT and so anyway I just thought it was very interesting but there is a quote goodbye Barbara tadlock PhD she wrote a book that I highly recommend called the woman in the Shaman’s body and she wrote that quote shamans are Sears oracles and Poets and their artistic language creates a healing path for their patients and and I love I love that cuz I really I realized I live in the spirit of that you know I can I have the ability to communicate I have the ability to write and now it’s results of my work with the mushroom I have the ability to essentially Channel this gorgeous poetry and end so you have come into connection I speak very candidly about this with these Spirit intelligences through my work with seat mushroom and and you know that was you know long known to shamanic people be there earlier paean people or you know the Maya were in Africa where you know you connect with no the plant teacher and or Atwell a tutelary spirit a spirit that will and intelligence that will teach you and and which comes which came first I like to ask the mushroom for the shaman right so Apprentice myself to the mushroom in those beings have been teaching me and so so yes so this just beautiful poetry has been coming force and I’m so now when I work with the mushroom I will you know just have a digital recorder with me and I speak the way I’m speaking you now but it’s totally poetry it’s the beings speaking through and everything Rhymes and it just flows and so a mutual friend of ours came to work with me something that I’m also doing now as I am doing one-on-one Retreats and it’s for 4 days and that person comes and stays in my arm and I feed them and I teach them and we go very very very deep and you know ceremony in the whole deal it sits and it is highly transformative and so this person you and I know came in August and that happened to be over the August full moon and so you know there was one night where ceremony occurred and she was good to go and for the next 2 hours I just whispered into my recorder and and it was the the elves speaking through me and so I I’m starting to speak more candidly about this because really what I see that I am is a fairy Shaman and now I am not talking about Tinkerbell and I am and I’m not talking about the Victorian gossamer Wings little you know sexy Pixies no no no no no no no no the FAE were long known to the Irish and the Scottish people and also you know the Scandinavians and and you know there are tribes in Africa who speak of nature spirits who are are very similar in resemblance to these what they are is there ancient nature intelligences and it’s the thought they were ancestral or that our ancestors you know went to the fairy Realms when they passed and in Ireland they are known as the tuatha de danaan and it’s Friday Donna and was a race of Godlike beings they were very very high magicians and they lived in Ireland for a time until the sons of Mill showed up and there was a battle and and a two-headed on and lost that battle and so they retreated below into the Mounds and and into they were in a living beneath the Earth but there was you know you could communicate with them and so so yeah so I was deeply in connection with these beings as I have been on the on the mushroom in any case then in September I went to Scotland and it was a pilgrimage for me and I save my shackles and went out there and I went to the outer Hebrides Scotland and spent time and ancient stone circles and there with no mushroom and believe I actually had the mushroom but I wasn’t able to use it when I was there I was able to procure it there but I wasn’t able to use it and I thought this is very interesting cuz I knew this was heart of a Acela learning I was receiving that deer you know you don’t have to have it you know you’ve been turned on you know cuz it does change you forever and so and they said the gates you will stand before will open and so I would stand in the circle tonight I just I take my digital recorder with me everywhere cuz I never know when this poetry is going to flow and it just absolutely flowed through me when I was there no mushroom necessary and then when I came home from Scotland I essentially brought what I was told her new mentors home with me and and I was when I would wake up in the morning as I was Awakening they were speaking to me and poetry and so I was bringing my digital recorder to bed with me so that in the morning as the poem came through I could speak it and so I will share because I think this will really speak to you and there is it’s truly beautiful and and I don’t write like this you know but the way they play with words is is quite something and the and the Poetry is deeply encoded and so up I want to read this yeah I think you will you evil quite appreciate this so I called his old Spirits speak and say this is what they said that’s exactly what they fear of that you realize what you’re made of the constructs is a sorcerer spell designed by those who know full well the power of their words of art they can initiate the start of any Trend that they designed to keep the flock they watch in line change will come when mine start opening then the dawn of what you were hoping we’ll and Sue to shift the pace this death march by the human race must be reversed that’s why we’re here deceptions Mists we pledge to clear each of you has been assigned a royal play to realign the threads that we’ve this current hell your actions here will fare quite well to shift the subtle frequencies so more spoke begin to see with inner eye to realize the tricks by those who are disguised as well-known personalities who manipulates the crowd with these lists years is a hologram and we deliver telegram that though the claws have dug in deep and though the masses are asleep eval was made far in the past that it is time we raise our Mast and sail into the stormy sea to raise our great Humanity to Heights once thought and possibly ambitious for such an undertaking yes this has been most painstaking though right now more of you waking this the time we’ve been awaiting see their fear all that surveillance see the One World dark Alliance they are under the impression they’re above divisive action which they spread among the crowd cups divided lost and proud but they cannot control each other they are going to have one mother of a vast Rift all among their Web of Lies that they have strong this tears we’ve been counting on in the meantime spread your song of what can be when hearts are strong and minds are clear to Virgil angst the many who are so confused their precious Souls have being abused and so the magic that you carry isn’t simply airy-fairy this tear has for long been crafted by the lifetimes you’ve and acted now it’s your moment all of you we will give more than a few instructions clever that he’ll use take your folk Beyond this ruse never let your good Hearts waiver in those temples lives the Saviour you awakened ones of light Illuminating this Dark Knight and Gathering wants more to cast a spell you’ve trained for that has vast effects upon this sacred place that’s home to many kinds of race now all the gateways open here’s the moment you’ve been hoping will occur on planet Earth songs were written of this birth that Springs forth from within the mind a realization of the kind that holds the course dramatically when of a sudden people see this thing’s electric think how fast when switch is flipped the light is Cass and everything you didn’t see is now before you quite clearly how many changes coming near Children of the light don’t fear but rather senior gifts with joy and with good wisdom you’ll destroy the spell that captivates the many what you carry Concord anything that they have up their sleeve you simply in your mind conceive of what you were before you came and when you realize you are the same will deers consider that in mind and ancient spell you will unbind the great wand of antiquity is buried where you cannot see where you’ve been taught to look outside and not within where it resides you are ready now to find the Holy Grail within your mind the sacred places you have been hold keys there that remain unseen unless you trained for many lives to cut through Darkness with your knives those sorts of light you hold with Grace look in the mirror at your face look in your eyes that dance there light you a warrior here to fight a battle that is ancient old and now the time stories told when Beauty beings Fair install will once again appear to all and help you dear ones at this time he’d the power of this rhyme for this is just the start of things as people of the fairy rings cast their magic spells around so once more Earthly folk can found a time of peace upon this Earth a time when you are good folk can birth the frequencies of living grace who’s energies will heal this place is so amazing so beautiful I just want to resurrect Jim Hanson to make this into a hole production or has got to be a new wave of children’s books and cartoons and action figures and dolls and roll out I’ve always felt that you were the one to be the wisdom keeper and sort of the the one that those whatever artistic needs that you would like to have a team above the crew built around you to take this type of narration and make it into every form of physical object media format whatever so that it can actually compete and as is memes that mean it’s all it’s all the way in a very detached kind of social scientific way of looking at things I mean whether you know whatever esoteric tradition you followers or not it’s really you want to have wholesome regenerative ecological you know fashion and lifestyle and everything that people just sort of consume I mean it’s just a matter of making a better option available that puts the the less sustainable or desirable options obsolete so I next thing I want to ask you is of the women and the mothers you know who were trying to design a mythology about what’s happening on Earth what do you mean you’re one of them right so I just can only imagine how difficult it would be to be taking responsibility for Parenthood with a shamanic perspective and ecological perspective if you no excetera you know how and how do you how do you translate this into into the kinds of resources and Tool kits that would be needed for new in an entirely new alternative educational system that actually has a I mean like what you could be doing the Waldorf of shamanic K through 12 you know but based on all this stuff I mean I don’t even know you know what’s out there so if that makes any sense as a question you know if this is how do we get the audience to grow for what you’re channeling okay so first of all turn off your TV throw it out I would say be very very careful with media you know there’s so much you know that I know now that I didn’t know when I first had my children right and and it is amazing to think also you know this this how much technology has taken over our lives you know since then and it’s a double-edged sword do you know on one hand you can glean a lot of great information on another thing it’s another and it’s kind of like the wild west cuz there’s a lot of garbage to sort through as well and and it can be very addictive and level up in any case you know I would have done some things very differently you know had I known back then I have two daughters 16 and 19 you know what I know now for so I would not have vaccinated them I know that’s it something if heated debate but I will say that you know he human beings have managed to live on this Earth and pretty harsh conditions you know for a very very very long time and you know with no vaccines and and as someone who knows quite a lot has researched a tremendous amount on on ancestral Foods you know our ancestors were way stronger than we are today we are pretty much a shadow at this point you know of what we used to be you know is physical strength and emotional and mental wherewithal and Clarity and all of that you know so you know the good news is you know we can call that back by embracing Foods we used to eat but you know just good luck trying to find milk if it’s you know illegal in your state blah blah blah but you know so I would not have had my girls vaccinated and I wish I knew about traditional foods you know what I know now back then you know cuz I would have done that differently as well and I would have homeschooled and so I think it is very important to understand you know this is this is about breaking spells and everything that we’ve been told that we’ve been raised under has been you know presented to us and our parents and our grandparents okay by this we’re in a commercial system and and so it controls our education it controls our media you know certain interest within their now there’s the comedian George Carlin does a fantastic feel and this is stand-up comedy and holy shit like this was no joke he’s talking about education and why it will never change and he’s like people you need to understand something right now you know you are owned you are owned and these politicians those are just those are just figureheads put there so that you think you owe me I vote for this guy I have some amount of power here he’s like the real people with the you know the Reigns of Power are hidden they’re not out there they’re not in your gossip magazines and what not and they own everything they own the land you live on that you know they they put together the institutions and this and this and this and and so it’s a very important to to really start to take a wide view and start to see this the system for what it is and and start to say okay you know what I am no longer going to you don’t give Credence to you know what the FDA says or the CDC or you know what whatever and it doesn’t matter who becomes president you know all these people crying cuz Hillary didn’t win she’s a disgusting Pig so and so’s Trump okay look essentially the Clinton crime family didn’t win the Trump crime family won this is a criminal Syndicate and also divide and conquer goes back to Rome and Beyond look how polarized we are ban look how polarized we are oh my God and God forbid oh my God anyone say oh yeah you know I actually do like you know that one thing Trump is doing all my God people will jump all over that person right and I just been sitting back looking watching back and forth back and forth going people this is the oldest trick so they keep the silly mughals fighting among themselves whether it’s pro-choice or pro-life or republican Democrat liberal conservative as always two sides there’s never a third is there it’s just always to fight fight fight you know and that’s why I don’t I don’t go into the two end of the feminist vote either I’m like nope I’m not going there I’m not feminist I’m not I say we all we all need to respect each other and treat each other well and raise our children that way I mean the golden rule is pretty easy to understand you know you treat others the way you yourself would be treated and at the same time don’t be a fool you know because there are a lot of bad people out there as well but anyway I think I’m going off his attention here but in any case so yeah so taking that step back and starting to see the constructs for what it is and realize something everybody that you know we have lost our mythology we have lost our tribes we have lost connection to our old gods and goddesses you know what I think of the Scottish people I mostly Scottish you know there was a huge battle that the Scots my people fought in the 1700s they fought you know the Brits who wear whatever controlled by Rome or whatever the deal with that this is God’s got their asses handed to them on a platter with a very bloody battle and they just massacred that man in that after that battle so much was lost in that culture and then the Scots were not allowed to wear their Clan Kilts their tartans or something like 56 years if they were caught they were sent out of the country or punished severely so you know what that’s so in other words and so here we are in this Melting Pot which were told oh yeah let’s Embrace diversity everybody you know what it is it’s just putting us all into a corporate sameness and so everybody is losing their culture I don’t care if you’re Chinese or you know American Indian Scottish or what we’re all you know losing touch and so then and then so when you do that when you do that to a people then essentially the government think your will be your new god listen to us and we will create the institutions will create the education will create the media and and I’m not setting to Media is a weapon television the reason why I don’t have a television and I don’t want you know what I can’t I can’t even watch movies anymore because I can see the social engineering and so this is sorcery sorcery is manipulation and so television you’re telling a vision and then what are you watching on the television program and then interesting Lee what do you do what do you change to watch a different program to channel okay and then media is too short for a medium a medium another thing for a medium bring through you know Spirit entities and what not and so this medium is bringing through you know these programs and of course you go into a trance just like a medium does go into a light trance makes you very suggestive and then all sorts of programming and all of those family fun shows and even those clever shows you think are soaked you know I can’t even think of the Grey’s Anatomy and all that horseshit they’re loaded it’s all programming to get you to identify with those characters in that oh yeah that’s how things are you know that’s how that’s how it is and so it’s all inducting you into this sort of way of being and also so in other words we used to tell stories we used to tell stories do you know I realized I realized I could check this out I realize this a few weeks ago or last month it occurred to me oh my God I was initiated into the Celtic Mysteries by my Irish Grandma who is off the boat from Ireland should full Irish accent and she was a master Storyteller will the Irish have been known for that you know Master storytellers their storytellers in every culture but you know that I was really been known for this and she would speak very quietly so we’d have to show and listen to these Amazing Stories and she tells stories about that the fairies and The Kelpies and the Banshees and she was an amazing Storyteller and and then I call my mom later that day I said hey you know it occurred to me I told her that and my mom said I cannot believe you’re calling with me me with a Shana guess what today is an I said what and she said today is your grandmother’s birthday she’s been dead for years you know I didn’t know in any case but so you know we would we would share the stories of our ancestors and astrology and so all of that has been okay and so with that then you know you have children growing up identifying with their folk right and feeling like I am part of this and this is magical and this is ancient and there’s heroes in this lineage and there’s you know this and this and now would we have with TV so it’s not that hard it’s not that great of a leap of logic right to imagine that adults would reaxis some of that imaginary fun making Instinct rape American coach Leisure we would look down on play and we look down on make-believe and so we decide that’s just for children and it’s not for grown ups and I think that that’s a really horrible horrible perspectives of the world cuz you’re only a child for a very very brief point of your life and you’re an adult for a really really long part of your life and wouldn’t I don’t want to stop playing would you want to grow up ever and so yeah I think of BDSM I think erotic play I feel like yeah it’s just this extension of your creativity and artistic and Tristan and your means of expressing yourself and now you get to have sex so why wouldn’t you add that and everything else thank you for helping to frame it that way cuz that it’s it’s so it’s easier to digest when you when I just have never heard that what that phrase before but it just erotic play being obviously it means that you could incorporate more than just your one monogamous married partner that’s just still only allowed that culturally they by the mainstream the idea of being sexually playful with a group of people in the community of people as a social activity like a cocktail party or a mixer or I mean why can’t you believe make break into play make-believe you know the okay fine I just I’m this is my partner this is the only person I’m going to have sex with her I’m going to be in love with or however you’re defining that but I can pretend for the next hour or two that there’s someone I’ve never met before or that there a superhero or that a magical being or whatever and that can really shift your erotic interest in your erotic pleasure I think you probably would be able to say that it will make a lot of relationships last longer and be more Pap more healthier happier for sustainable resilient cuz you’re not getting bored and giving up and going you know stoic that’s great so do you have a key tell it tell me more about the center and how it how it runs and functions is it kind of like a drop-in center or do you have only certain events at certain times or how does the facility time work out we don’t actually have a physical location most of it exists inside my laptop and out of and that means we don’t have to pay for rent so that’s why we go to where we need to go so you know we have regular meetings happen in my house or one of the other board members houses we do have some events here and there are a lot of our fundraisers or just online to make it easier to reach as many people as possible and of course we’re trying to reach a broader audience than just Los Angeles so we Skype workshops we Skype things we’ve talked to classes in New York and classes in Idaho and you know all over the place so you know we do a lot of different things we also have an academic Journal that you’re positive sexuality it’s free it’s open access anyone is welcome to use it and read it and submit work to it and you know that’s been going we’re now in our third year of publication of that and that is hitting a worldwide audience some of the countries that are accessing this are it’s all over in Australia and in Belgium and in various parts of the UK and it’s hitting parts of Asia Japan so it’s really really great so we have a very wide reach and what we do we have approximately 50 to 60 volunteers who work with us we also have an internship program so we get college students who want internship credits or what the work experience and so they volunteer for a specific. Of time and work on specific projects for us at different times of the year we get most of our interns during the summer but we get interns year-round and we have in our volunteers so we have Educators we have people who are research Affiliates and who published research and use the center is one of their professional affiliations we have research assistants who helped them we do you work with events so we do some Outreach events I think on Wednesday we’re going to UCLA sextravaganza which is been happening for several years on UCLA’s campus that we usually set up a booth are we do that with other things around town we’ve also have members some of our volunteers go to conferences all over the world and represent us at different places and in different areas where they were very popular in Melbourne just found out from a friend who’s been living in Australia for past couple years so I can’t I guess we’ll have to go there at some point cool it’s a new cloud-based model it’s elegant and overhead in the neighborhood drama and that there’s a lot of reasons to transcend that six location and you can if you can be a mobile you know unit then you can just take your your your laptop and projector and some you know what your handouts or whatever you have in this b a and again because true using Skype and using other types of internet programs you know we can get into a classroom you know that might not be able to bring us there physically but we can still do it will set it up on our end and and just stream live stream wherever we need to be and and it’s very helpful to cuz we so we have volunteers I think are farthest away volunteer that we’ve had so far was in Trinidad so we can have volunteers from anywhere in the world who can work with us medication programs and so they help us Creator update or education resources in our reference materials and putting together things to help teachers facilitate this in their classes they might actually be one of our Educators we train people to go out to those classes and to give presentations to places we have research assistants to make come in with a certain amount of background knowledge and how to do academic research and some come in just wanted to learn it and so we trained them and they work with people who are doing research in various aspects of positive sexuality and so some of them get to co-author papers and some of them get to work on the ground floor of research happening and get to really get into what that is and have a voice and have an influence in what’s being done in the academic world and this is course then starts to affect policy when we’re putting scientific research in front of people and saying here this is what the says that’s not the correct or let them besides these aspects and that can be very very helpful we work with other organizations so and CSF the National Coalition for sexual freedom is one of our sort of co-working his nation’s the community academic Consortium for research on alternative sexualities we work with them as well yeah I’m getting chills yeah I’m getting chills cuz this is a lot more than I bargained for and actually seeking a lot of what you’re describing and to have yeah we hope we have a good bit of time last time feeling compelled to ask you a little bit about I guess hey if you’re into taboos right blowing them there is all I ever believed starting this week there’s going to be the biggest psychedelic science conference in the history of humanity happening in the Bay Area it’s put together by that multidisciplinary Association for psychedelic studies and the there’s a lot of really important cutting-edge legal for the first time in decades studies happening all over the world with psilocybin you know I gave magic mushrooms and MDMA and Ayahuasca and marijuana and peyote and I will gain a number of other synthetic and natural organic you could say psychedelic compounds in a lot of it is at this point in this stage of the Renaissance of research it’s really about proving the safety the relative safety of different compounds getting the dosage to be sort of understood better at also having some really important clinical trials around ending ending addiction to harmful drugs ending cigarette addiction end-of-life anxiety sexual abuse and Trauma and PTSD from War veterans there’s all these different the demographics that are starting to have really groundbreaking results and they’re doing you know they’re putting in the millions of dollars to do the the research for all this and so I bring that up just to say that this is an interesting juncture for me because the a cultural cliche about sex drugs and rock and roll and you know the way that the culture of inebrians is starting to move a large part due to Raves and festivals it’s moving more towards entheogens than just Coke and heroin and meth and booze there’s more opportunities for people who are coming into their sexuality to have access to psychedelic experiences and so there’s the new Alchemy of innocent in these Generations between sex drugs and rock and roll and if it’s it’s it’s it’s a lot more sophisticated and advanced and and and just more diverse in many ways than it was in the 60s when it was you know Acid Rock and LSD and other birth of the the hippie movement in the 60s but I’m wondering if you have in your position they’re come across any any any people who are interested in in rigorous academic study of what this new sex and drugs and rock and roll Paradigm it is shaping up to become if there’s anyone interested in that that you know of he’s been there are definitely people who are starting who are doing research on these topics and very often the connection that ends up happening in the academic research is you know if we’re looking at the sex drugs and rock and roll that of course is going to look at the outcomes and too often I think the the outcome that gets stressed is okay so what’s the what’s the public health issue so is it possible or is it likely that people are might be transmitting STIs because they might be under the influence of something or maybe they can’t we do we have to worry about consent if someone is under the influence of something that then means that they cannot now consent to what happens at that point so what happens if everybody who’s involved have done that so where does that line get drawn so I think a lot of the issues that have come up in recent research has been either on public health topics around STI transmission or on consent topics recognizing that at least by law if someone is inebriated for example they can now no longer consent to sexual activity okay so what happens if everybody involved. That’s so interesting yet that’s exactly what I’ve been actually encountering and in just by life experiences it’s there’s there’s a lot of people now who were you can say you were having expanded Consciousness through empty agentic use meaning it’s kind of a nice way of saying psychedelic no drugs but but that’s an important consideration because just because you feel like you’re enlightened than that one with God doesn’t mean that you’re immune from being the perpetrator with that Enlightenment that you don’t think you have a potential for abuse and even if it’s not that sort of shady you know where that sort of Insidious there’s also just the issue you’re not in your body if you’re having an out-of-body ecstatic psychedelic experience how how do you get even if you can send it to the idea of something earlier in the evening that has to be held through somehow and if you lose the if you become somebody else or part of your higher self or whatever it could be theirs that’s some chicky territory for sure yeah so that’s I guess there’s you know that I’ve seen like at electronic dance music events you can call him Rave but that’s kind of more you know probably more accurate term these days cuz there’s within that whole world there’s different camps and it’s more no more more bride to just called electronic dance music these days but you know there is there’s sort of harm reduction education Outreach groups that put out one sheet kind of look like glass CD mailer cards you know about business matters and they have kind of a profile of what the different substances how did how to test and make sure that they’re real or are what you’re getting it like that there’s that whole harm reduction education Outreach approach that is kind of like what you’re talking about but it’s for the party scene in just for best and better practices around that but I could see that they’re being a sum interest group of people where they would want to see things the way you’re talking about it cuz I actually no way you’re framing it it it feels like there’s a lot more due diligence for people that want to be credible and respectable and using best practices to actually think with some of these analytical tools so I’m hoping you’ll be great if there was some overlap or or or Synergy with all this stuff I think more and more what is happening as we’re seeing the people who are actually involved in all of these different spaces you know the people were actually doing whatever it is we’re talking about having more influence on the research that’s being conducted so that it creates a more authentic overall experience and I think it adds a level of legitimacy to the research so rather than a researcher sort of from on high saying well I’m going to study this group and I think what they’re doing may not be safe and so we know the perspective that I’m going to come about with this is that well this is already inherently unsafe and now I’m going to show you why it’s in safe and I think more and more we have researchers who are in these communities who are in these faces or doing all of these things and you say you know maybe we need to do is talk to the people who were actually doing this and not talk to them with a preconceived notion of what’s going on or what they’re experiencing or what may be happening but go in just as a hey could give us some information to tell us about what’s happening and I think we’re seeing more of that so there has been research on for example like barebacking and there’s been research on sex workers experiences and there’s been research on sort of the the spiritual some of the spiritual Connections in the spiritual extremes that can be experienced through extreme SM activities light hookah coals and those kinds of things so we’re seeing more and more of that happening where people who are actually in these groups are part of the subcultures are also crossovers into the academic life and we’re just seeing an amazing amount of research that starting to Bubble to the surface and get a little bit of space. I think this research has been getting done for quite a while but it can be really hard to get it published because some of the academic Publishers don’t want to hear about it and I want you to my is any of these things so if they publish something on it they want to be really careful so with our journal and with some of the other journals out there we’ve been able to bridge. Cap and actually be able to show some I feel like more authentic stories well absolutely will now in this world have so many The Gatekeepers being dissolved by the power of the internet I feel like you know there’s a lot of bad journalism or untrained journalism so there’s got to be a lot of bad or untrained or Incredible or uncredible research but maybe it’s the methodology that can be what’s the word sort of feel like I could imagine what as you were speaking I was imagining will wouldn’t it be great to train the you know that like the anthropological participation observation ethnography kind of model but if you were to train if you were coming from that subculture and you wanted to sort of document your tribe and produce your own ethnography kind of amongst your friends kind of tabulate experiences and collect notes insured compare notes is there was you recommend any kind of Crash Course doing data collection for different types of research paper I’m doing ethnography in the field and sort of how that works and how you can sort of pull everything together there’s a really good little guidebooks you know a quick online search for for some of these guys are out there and ask her if she is amazing stuff I love doing a photography by the way I think it’s an incredible tool that doesn’t get use nearly enough and and it got a lot of researchers a colleague of mine she recently did a photographic ethnographic working with lgbtq Foster Youth and homeless Youth and kind of went out gave them all cameras and said take photographs of Your World of your life of who you are, and they did a whole art show you know like found a gallery in Downtown LA and just played everyone’s photographs and and you know really got people connected to them and seeing them as people who have life experiences and they’re not just sort of a category of disadvantaged kids so yeah I think there’s there’s an easy guide books out there just like a quick you can find some quick little things of how to do ethnography and how to do that and but I think a lot of that to starts with her own storytelling so things that you do and things that others do and and all the bloggers out there and everything of these are all forms of ethnography relay yeah that’s cool it’s just that it’s exciting and hopeful cuz I feel that I’m at a point where I’m doing kind of pseudo-scientific Rogue radical research that’s way too far out for any government agency or any academic institution to touch with a ten-foot pole so it’s it’s kind of on me and my colleagues and friends 2 do this sort of underground research but then hope that it it’s done in a way that it can be respectable or it can be legitimated later you know but it is probably good to do what you’re suggesting and actually have some some templates for collecting the data that mean okay here’s what would our experiment yielded and here’s the methodology in the procedure and you can test it on your own Hardy or lab or whatever replicate what you’ve done and so can you give enough information that would allow somebody else to replicate and get similar results in their own place or find totally different results which is also fascinating injured and interesting and yeah and I think that’s really I mean that’s science that is science Sciences pushing boundaries and science is you now let’s try a new thing and see what happens and science is telling a new story or New Perspective of a story and you know I think that that’s been lost over the past many years Society The Sciences inquiry science is asking questions and wondering why thing happens and how something happens and trying to figure that out and I think that we’ve sort of collectively as a larger society have sort of lost that Focus write the word crowdsourced crowd-source funding crowdsourced ideas and editing and an art I mean you were talking about that at that photo gallery exhibit and that’s a great example if you would call that a crowd-sourced ethnographic oh yeah photojournalism nice oh yeah that’s cool that’s that’s exciting time so I’m also wondering now do you have do you do you or your organization the Center provide any kind of consulting services or any kind of where you could be hired or you could be sort of commissioned to do research or to consult on Research I don’t know that we’re I don’t know that anybody is really hired to do research cuz wouldn’t it be fantastic if someone will pay for that but that doesn’t happen if we do get hired as consultants for a variety of things so either individuals within the organization or the collective organization May consult on certain projects or consult on like creative curriculum for a particular thing and we have individuals who are consulted on court cases and I’m legal issues so so there’s a lot of that we also get hired by professionals like to teach professional workshops on various topics so that happens as well because we’re a nonprofit although those things are often we you know ask for fee cuz usually the people who were asking for these services are people who can pay for it but what going out to the schools we’re going to colleges in touch or we have a student group asked us to come and do something with them or like what you know we go to somebody’s community of answer something we may ask for an honorarium but we’re going to do this stuff for free so we really depend on our donors and our contributors and the people who support us to kind of give us the funding that we need in order to do what we want to do and and to publishing and all the other stuff so our journals available for free most of our Outreach staff and education program is all for free so yeah a lot of what we do depends on donations as opposed to people actually hiring us officially to do something right on that sounds like a healthy well-rounded multi Revenue stream nonprofit you’re definitely fulfilling your mission in so many beautiful dimensions and I’m just really happy to know that we’ve connected to some really feel better about living in the world with you more offline 2 just to explore some of these Consulting opportunities that you have and see what we’re about and all of that stuff were completely volunteer so none of us are paid for what we do I don’t run a paycheck nobody wants a paycheck that’s completely volunteer and yeah we’re just we’re just trying to let you know we just try to bring it enough funds to keep going and to keep doing what we’re doing and to expand so we’re actually going to be expanding our face-to-face education program out to Chicago over the next few months so Craig can you do that that’s well thank you so much that’s great I feel like it’s it’s really refreshing to to hear that there are people out there who are so dedicated to the cause that it’s that you did not just going to slam the door in your face if you don’t write a check if you know the first five minutes if you’re not going to bill me for this podcast interview right now about an hour into it is do you have a sort of committee or task force or team or just even a person who is either because they are a trauma Survivor or because it’s just near and dear to their hearts whatever reason is there you do consent workshops in self-defense or rape and assault prevention and any any more of the or any any of the sort of preventative and treatment kind of education unpreparedness we do have programs around consent we don’t really specifically talk about self defense or or right prevention in the standard sense so we don’t really talk about here’s what you can do to prevent being raped we talked about here’s what you can do to not rape someone because really this is not on the victim this is on the perpetrator but we also talked about you know here’s other ways that you might think about your sexual self and your identity in the power dynamics that you may interact with and find consensual outlets for some of your interests and behaviors and the citiz and you know we talked about a wide range of those things so it would be great if the people who are doing the Rape Crisis counseling and who are just in the trenches of dealing with battered women and in and going in and and doing you know investigations to catch meant to prosecute the perpetrators of all ages if they were I would let it would be great if in it you know in a perfect world they were seeking you all to educate themselves on better prevention and better version or diversion from the criminal whole that the response like they’re coming as the First Responders two incidents that would have been prevented by a proper education on all sides right and we do have we do have information so some of our researchers and and because we have people who are social workers who have conducted research through us who have published on how to do how to have a sex positive approach to handling victims how to have a sex positive approach to handling offenders and that these approaches can really help reduce crime can reduce negative stigma can reduce it comes cool is that would that be on your website or at some if I if I can follow up with you later cool okay well alright I feel like it’s this is yes. A real blessing and I just want to thank you again for your time and generous sharing of great info so with that said do you want to give the website and any other maybe upcoming events or anything else you’d like to promote and the website is positive sexuality. Org journal and that’s Journal of positive sexuality. Org we have our anniversary party coming up this July so if you want to be invited and want to be a part of that anniversary party will be a fundraiser you can contact me at Emily Emily at positive sexuality. Org or you can go to our website and put in your email address and then you’re on our newsletter list and you’ll get information through our newsletter about our party and we’re hoping we’re putting together an academic conference for next year so look on our website check things out if you go to sex pause khan.com so s e x p o s c o n. Com there’s going to be updated information they’re probably starting in the next couple of weeks for our positive sexuality conference coming up in 2018 in Burbank all right that’s very exciting thank you again yeah that’s me alright thank you so much again and I will hopefully I’ll be in touch soon thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite sex if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at kontrapunkt. Com Thomas gay

Higher Paradigm Dating, Polyamory & BDSM with Isantis TPP92

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Isantis PicIn this episode I’m joined by the highly accomplished and deeply insightful Rev. Brian Krall aka Isantis Tao. He shares some background on his paths of initiation into various wisdom traditions of loving, healing, and spiritual arts. We discuss some of his holistic approaches to helping people with love, dating, relationships, polyamory,  and beyond. We also explore his unique and enlightening experience of bringing a tantric approach to kink and BDSM.

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www.TrueLifeDevelopment.com

About Brian:

Rev. Brian Krall, also known by his Shaman name Isantis Tao, is a Holistic Healer, Personal Development Specialist, Social Scientist, Sexual Educator, Metaphysicist, Taoist Shaman and Tantric Yogi of Sri Vidya. He has been studying Health and Holistic Healing, Personal Development, Psychology, Philosophy, Spirituality, Metaphysics & The Occult for 19 years. He was initiated as a shaman 13 years ago in a traditional Death initiation and has studied and practiced many of the world’s predominant forms of Shamanism. In February of 2010 He was initiated into one of the worlds most ancient tantric lineages, the Daksinamurti lineage, by world famous guru Sri Chaitanyananda Nantha Saraswati, at the Sri Rajarajeswari Peetham (Temple of The Divine Universal Queen Mother Goddess), part of The Sri Vidya International Tantric Temple Society. He trained there for several years in far Right Handed Tantric Hindu Metaphysics, Rituals and Sanskrit Chanting. Over the past 14 years he has authored 10 books on personal development, relationships/sexuality and metaphysics/spirituality. He has been offering personal development trainings and shamanic apprenticeships for 13 years. And has a Holistic Personal Development, Relationship and Spiritual training company called True Life Development that he has owned and operated for the past 7 years. Be sure to check out his website at www.TrueLifeDevelopment.com where he offers many free informational videos and articles, as well as next level products and programs.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin eligible oven smoking Tacos on podcast episode number 92 I’m here with Reverend Brian Krause I’m screwed lights development and he is special educator tantric yoga in Dallas, and amongst other things and then thrilled to have another man on the show to talk about spiritual sexual past us and lightning and and and also there’s going to be some interesting exploration of the country is the first to some of the video send out there today and wanted to tell us a bit about your background how you discovered these past and how you leave them together so since the great offering she survived for the world now yes thank you very much I’m really excited about this I know that you’re going to be asking me some very interesting questions than that I don’t normally I’m pretty excited to do this and yeah the traffic to talk about the ways in which the world is BDSM in the world of Tantra and sex magick and Shamanism CareerLink ductwork for can be really interesting topics to be able to go into a little bit about myself I am a personal development I’ve been practicing and studying for almost 20 years and then I started offering and it’s offering personal development trainings about 12 years ago and I have been studying psychology and sociology for about 30 or four 15 years and I actually almost 15 years now and sexual education for about 16 years out of the ground and Company for about seven years for about 15 years and was initiated as a charm on about 12 years ago and now I am also a country was initiated to ask Ving Temple of the Divine Universal mother goddess at what it’s called a part of a temple society called International Temple society and I was in there about seven years ago and was trained intensively there so I don’t know a lot of things together really well as part of the holistic Spectrum you know how I feel at all is very integral to one another and you know it all cooperating really well I’m really excited to hear about that at all things esoteric and otherworldly and Thistle and then turn off you know from your cares if you had a OK Google moment in your adolescence or where it where the bleeding ulcer to begin I realized that modern Western Christianity just wasn’t doing it for me and everything that I’ve been taught through myself to conditioning and the status quo just wasn’t just didn’t seem to be working just didn’t seem to be well Aaron. You know the modern sofa conditioning in modern washing Christianity so I got into different forms of world religions and Eastern religions and I started looking at things with his taoism in Hinduism and also magic as well and various philosophies and metaphysics geology and physics as well as other things that were caught by Society here and didn’t seem to really make sense or really work for me you know I’m so I’m so that’s where I began my journey into the start of the truck around with all of this stuff and it just sort of a more and more over the years do you want to talk about what you doing now and how you’re taking that training and gifts and turn them the world’s biggest offerings right now is called the ultimate sex god or goddess training program for the sex life of your dreams review everything that you need to know about human sexuality from sexual psychology and building your sexual identity to sexual communication in the social science of sexuality and sexuality to seduction and foreplay and arousal to Central play and sexual techniques and sex positions and orgasms to the sort of sex magick and Tantra and then finally relationship management know about human sexuality in a very practical manner Ave development course which is like my Flagship corporate or less about me and teaches you everything you know about personal development in all of the Africa the holistic Spectrum from house to Identity in Psychology to professional development to relationships to the law of attraction in circle has worked so I called the power of you self-actualization blueprint trying to master their dating life and find the right partner or Partners I have a course called the easy automated maintenance systems which basically just further takes all the bullshit out of dating for people like myself who are very busy and don’t have a whole lot of time to invest in you know going out to bars all the time to find people on a horse that’s not in the best way and I’m looking for a sustainable and easy way to integrate dating into their lives or very high standards in Partners in no one find the right partner or partners and you know maybe even many partners this is a really great course that teaches you so that it can finish your busy lifestyle and helping to get the right partner partner and I got a lot of little and Seabrook and ecology I feel like I want to I want to connect with you and see if it’s kind of opportunity so people in Canada common offering graphic training on how busy you are what your workload is like in there may be a free consultation so that they can understand what they’re getting into and out of any questions answer that the training program is right for them and there is a good thing for them if they are interested so yeah I definitely do that some of that and I could just say I have my very similar kind of integrated multidisciplinary background on what happened I guess you could say Mastery and expertise and in various areas and being able to synthesize the past but I am curious. If I were to go into a mode where I’m just curious attempting to be like a late person if I could give you some general questions that I think they’re kind of from the try guys just text her a hold of you and modern society and just see how you were getting right with that to give the first certain things and reconstruct understanding a person’s will and being in alignment with their snow with her whatever level and then helping them grow in a way that they feel like they’re holding their own young and that your facilitator processor can I get a C7 info session questions of sort of like a demonstration or a mock-up of what type of device in and see how you were okay so if you think so what I am hearing for is with say I never said I know a little bit about the idea of Dharma and I want you to not live in the departed from negative Karma and psychodrama of unconscious relationship that’s what is a karmic Bond had enough of that and you want to be in what some people would say it in a jar Mike relationship where there is a higher level Fusion of Souls and soul circus where you’re not so much to do if your dog is but you’re actually really fine soon and storing in this optimized games of co-creation and Synergy and symbiosis with how could you help people who want to rise up to a more important quotes our next mission of a relationship as opposed to you don’t have to agree on exactly one simple schematic of a lot of people who are operating at a higher level of perfect in their sexual manifestation ritual not just hooking up in parking and being sloppy and even falling into whatever other people defined as king or some free casino scene of how to run returns if it sounds like you might have some really fit people want to live in a higher Paradigm I want to have higher Paradigm relationships and advanced level in order to get there when they relate to turn on the first thing you need to start with is yourself and your own Paradigm that you’re living in and you’re really sick for yourself your relationship to the world into nature and your lifestyle you’re sure if you’re trying to achieve her existence is a relationship for your connected to me to absolve your karma right and you need to adopt a better lifestyle Universal Law & Order on the way of life rules of compassionate lifestyle where you’re living in sync with nature and you are not harming or killing other being that you are not eating carcasses of animals doing that nature because man is not actually meant to animals who do not have a liveris digestive tracts we have a herbivore digestive tracts you. Only fall asleep with me for your body positive you’re surviving off of the pain and suffering and pain and you’re going to them on their negative energies in their car mats with also you’re taking a lower energy when you eat animals raise your credit survive can you control how does animal dies it would be probably quick and painless fear to shoot with a gun on Arrow that’s that’s not how these animals live in torture of other animals so that’s going to cause you to know where you’re taking on their comments but you’re causing suffering with me to take on bad karmas prevent you from raising your vibration at a casino hire Paradise arm and hand suffering in that you are firefighters frequencies for the spiritual dharmic wave life he realize that you are actually just a microcosm of the macrocosm curf one with the universe and a sort of manifestation of it a higher Consciousness into raise your Consciousness to a higher level and start to exist on a fire paradise and then of course you can other spiritual practices that fall into the realm of shamanism and magic and Tantra sex with yourself in the world around you by Bryson in the dating World a high Paradigm lifestyle able to transcend the status if you want to get a paradigm relationship and then you need to look for other people who are not victims of the native people who are slaves to the status quo have devised this dating program where I get you out of there dating life so it doesn’t take a lot of time and energy to find people who are up higher standard and share in their special interest and you know the sort of alternative lifestyle that they may be a part of a haystack so this is all music from the dryer the people who are here sitting and I really love this terminology and using and I’m going to do this to you and then you can share this never heard I can study of all of the new age material as consume this is the first time I’ve heard the notion of higher Paradigm. And then how to repair time of anything sexual you know dietary otherwise you’re going she has their end result is that it’s going to measurably lower than a lot of other sister higher Paradigm that transcends time and space so I love that you know because they’ve got busy Lifestyles but you know it’s it’s really just an excuse when it comes down to it because I’m going to the farmers market whenever you have time and stocking up on stuff and put it in the freezer meals for the week poster slowing their body down in the bodily processes they’re making yourself less intelligent and Also spiritually speaking to the body nearly impossible it is like trying to paddle a boat Upstream against the current Without a Paddle has been able to attain while eating anything but there are higher state because they have a healthy diet that is mainly made up of fruits and look at all the Buddhas look at all this in Hinduism and it makes everything in your life so if you find yourself functioning better but still eating more and spiritually it just raises your Paradigm so much for automatically very welcome and Horticulture and landscape design and if so yeah it’s good if you have to read about for the wedding and I repair Diamond automatic another thing that comes to mind you can always say the simple I didn’t say the farmer or pay the doctor or become a powerful modernization and Empress life hacks your reticle hear this hypothetical of time stay away from to relationship Paradigm and I can save it on it’s been abysmal technology startups for the power to connect people and make it easier to really find out what is what some of this back in thinking that’s who I am to your swing by and dating you know how do you order some chips that don’t give away your secret sauce for get people interested in learning more you know how do we find out if we’re honest ass and we want to find other people what do you suggest programs is a ton of Academia and science courses really work out everything to a science and address it from all the different angles psychology sociology spirituality into what I’m doing you don’t like basically creating your life like you’re running a business dealing with things like that that’s what I think is really really helpful that I do with a lot of my courses you know I have people your life right neurologically for success in the aspect or area that they are looking for in so there’s like two people use or Nearly Witches programming people use in their sleep disorder recalibrate their brain for success in that area which is dating I have things worked out to a social science right so I deal with the whole entire process of selecting mates and it starts with you and carry out what it is that you really want writing out what kind of relationship that you want here and then from there you can devise how it is that you would actually look for these types of people and find them he would talk to them to sort of engineer the right interactions that go towards the type of relationship do you want with these type of people on how you’re going to qualify and disqualified partner to find out if they are the right partners for you right and then from there you know I teach people how to properly flirt and then crashed into a partner to turn the instructions on how to get people out on your porch developments that you want to be having with this person and then how to create sustainable healthy relationship so that you know you’re making sure that this relationship is going to work and be successful in talking with people you know what is going on in your mind and how you are calibrating yourself for dating and how you’re going to be a partner for this person might because the only one to track people who are like you right if you want and you have to be there at your own personality and figure out what you want and how you’re going to devise lifestyle faxes for that and I’m ways of socializing that are good for that so it can be used for love and another goddess is all love because that is the only eligible power and everything gets fed on the way that was the most Exquisite beautiful Treatise on Tantra that I feel like I’ve ever heard and so it’s it’s a it’s spellbinding and I feel that I just blessed blessed to hear these these words be spoken and by you and and I’m curious if