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Erotic Hypnosis for Men’s Tantric Sexual Mastery with Ravyn Ryder TPP264

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In this episode I share an erotic hypnosis program created by Ravyn Ryder for men to develop tantric sexual mastery

Please visit her website:
https://ravynryder.com/

About Ravyn:
Ravyn Ryder is an Erotic Artist, Writer, and Sensual Educator. She has worked in the past professionally with men, women and couples as a Sensual Bodyworker, Dakini, Dominatrix, Courtesan and Long-Term Companion.

She is the creatrix of Body Ryding®, a sensual massage training sequence used to empower women by teaching erotic body slides, full body massage and the art of seduction.

She is a trained Tantric Educator and is a certified Practitioner and Trainer in the Art of Bondassage®. She has studied Swedish, Thai, Lomi Lomi, and Tantric massage with amazing healers all over the world.

She has worked with Shaman’s in Central and South America doing entheogenic medicine work in constant pursuit of personal growth and eager humbleness to learn more about the divine inner and outer universe. She has just recently returned from a 4 month stint in Central America and with a desire to shed light on both the beautiful and ugly complexities of healing with plant medicines, she is working on her first novel—an intimate memoir of her recent experience.

She has a degree in Behavioral Science with a minor in Marketing. She is a certified Life Coach, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Practitioner and is trained in Neuro-Linguistic Programming. Along with bodywork and training, she offers personal coaching to men, women and couples desiring to cultivate more pleasure in their lives.

DIY Erotic Empowerment from Massage Therapy to Female Ejaculation with Alexis Lane TPP243

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In this episode I’m joined by podcast listener Alexis Lane for an exploration of her journey of do-it-yourself erotic empowerment from massage therapy to female ejaculation and beyond!

About Alexis:

Alexis currently lives in southern Virginia. Call center representative by day, Yoni Goddess by night, Alexis is passionate about exploring and awakening her own sacred sexuality. She firmly believes that more women realizing their own Sacred Sexuality and the Divine Feminine within will change the face of this world in a powerful way. She looks forward to sharing the knowledge she’s gained through her own research and explorations for the Collective growth and well being of our species and our planet.

My Non-Verbatim Show Notes:

AL: a little bit about me, 30 years old southern virginia, all kinds of jobs, call center rep day job, in my own personal life my own free time I’ve really been for the past 2 or 3 years called to really dive deep into my own personal growth, issues of self love, developing self love and self respect, manifested through getting in touch with own sexuality, past 2 or 3 years, really hands on with myself, getting into all of my issues on a sexual level, I really just experienced a lot of growth and changes that I’m really excited, see how those things are gonna take shape in the world, right now definitely got a lot of female or authorities on the feminine side, Grace Diaz, Kim Anami, so many more, did find your podcast through Grace Diaz’ channel, that’s how I came to hear your podcast, episode on squirting, really excited to share a lot of practical application hacks, excited to see what I can offer

ted talk, unleashing the female orgasm, she did that ted talk has wonderful channel great website, an authority, or mentor in female sacred sexuality, another one I do listen to a bit of layla martin, amber leitz, sharing her own experiences and coming from a lot of personal experiences

TP: massage therapy process?

AL: started out straight out of high school, wasn’t very hands on, my mother found a great school for me, different than traditional massage therapy school, most are up to a year, very condensed, found me a 2 year associates, at an actual college, did go and get associates in applied science along with massage therapy licensure, courses, did have anatomy, physiology, kinesiology, science of how the body moves, how different parts move in relationship to each other, neurology, physiology, practical application of massage portion as well, a large part of our day and classroom time, half of time we spent in class alone was hands on massage portion

wide variety of different modalities, introduced to different types and techniques, intro to energetic fields, reiki, zero point balancing, shiatsu, intro to tai chi, broad spectrum intro to all different components, that you could branch out into from massage therapy, probably got a wider, broader range of training, of course normal classes like english, math, statistics, electives, art, really got a wide range education there

at the time I went to school, I’m sure it’s changed now, it was required for you to have at least a 1000 hours of clinical or volunteer times, did have clinic on site, instructors ran, people from community, staff members, students, would come in

offered reduced priced massages for the sake of us getting practice, also traveled within the local area and we did marathons, chair massage for seniors, a lot of hands on, encouraged to trade with other therapists, did a lot of that with energy workers, a lot of hands on training, worked on and off as a massage therapist

TP: path towards sacred sexuality adventure?

AL: hadn’t always been outwardly sexual, been very reserved, any experiences or enjoyment kept very much to myself, probably about 2 or 3 years ago, getting on to this path, coming out of a really dry period, personal events, 2013-14 really cataclysmic, broke me down, didn’t destroy but came pretty damn close, shut down completely sexually, even for myself, for a good 3 or 4 years, there was nothing, didn’t self pleasure, nothing, didn’t watch porn, anyone even mentioned sex it made me extremely uncomfortable, then one day, I was on a porn site and was watching, it was a tutorial, more than a porn film, tutorial of how to make a woman ejaculate, it was called squirting, this guy broke it down in detail step by step, technique that you use, hands on demonstration, she definitely appeared to not just be ejaculating, you can do it with or without orgasm, she was doing with orgasms, her whole body got into it, almost seemed that she went into a trance or another world, spasming, glow on her face, light in her eyes, so much joy, looked like she was on another level of existence at that point, thinking to myself, what am I doing wrong, I want that, that was the turning point, can’t tell you how many times I rewatched that video, its been a journey from there

everything I’ve done since, a lot of things I’ve done

tips hacks, advice, for me its become a life style, do feel it’s gonna be a lifelong journey for me, some body starting out, have to start where you are, goes back to porn, there’s a wide variety of information that’s available to us at the touch of our finger tips, that ranges from good to more darker perspective, its really important first and foremost going into this type of work, spiritual work, my advice, to know you’re gonna have to user discernment with the information you find, barometer, compass, has been my own intuition, my own inner guidance, having to be able to go within yourself and check in to know whether something feels right for you, have to be able to feel, whether it’s gonna be expansive, or something that’s gonna cause you to contract and close down more, have to know own limits

lot of authorities on female sexuality that I listen to on the regular, not always everything they say resonates with me, try to pick and choose, sift and sort, simple as that

need to have respect for ourselves, not always easy, conditioned it so important to please that other person, when you’re going into this work, going hands on and intimate with yourself and another, have courage, enforce this for myself, make sure you have smooth ride, trust and respect yourself, in what you choose to do

advice geared towards women: a lot of the obstacles that I as a woman experienced to being able to have those deeper vaginal g-spot, orgasms, cervical, barrier to ejaculate, masculinly actively do, more about relaxing into, something that will just come out of you, kinda have to get out of your own way, learn how to relax into it, its innate, something you were born to do, remembering how to do it, reactivating your bodies ability to do it, if you’re not real good at relaxing, it’s a skill

really just to have fun with it, you don’t have to take anything too seriously, its supposed to be fun that’s what I’ve got as far as advice

TP: moisture resistant blanket?

AL: very organized, very type a, plans my life out to a T, I actually didn’t really do too much experimenting with squirting before I actually found a blanket, I had first really gotten introduced to the concept of female ejaculation through Grace Diaz channel, then the work, Female Ejaculation and the G-Spot, Debrah, I had always known of squirting, always known it was possible for some women, based on information I had gotten, only certain women could do, most women not capable, I found out no, something all women can do, unless had surgery or injury, innately all women able to do, more research, heard about this company, reading an article about celebrity, paparazzi, carrying up sex furniture, checked out their site, sex furniture, checked out the site, happened across this blanket, I had immediately I thought if I really get going, really open my waters, gush, squirt profusely, I want to protect myself, I have an expensive mattress, and don’t want to do lots of laundry, the exploration I did have wasn’t really too messy because I had starting out, had trouble getting my waters flowing

I would produce liquid, but not very much, kind of blessing, never had experience of ruining a mattress,

TP: has it proved sea worthy?

AL: potential this blanket has to improve lives, other things it could be used for, it is marketed as a sexual enhancing item actually there’s other things I use it for, I’ll get into that, since I’ve started I have been exploring my bodies own ability to ejaculate for about the last year an a half, big part, not having the muscular development to push the fluid out, regular use of yoni egg, I’m a huge fan of yoni eggs, they do come with their own guide book on contraindications and things you want to watch out for if you’re gonna use them as tools, probably the most integral tool I’ve used on my own journey, reactivating my ability to squirt or ejaculate, regular daily ongoing use of them, really just in my self pleasuring settings working with other tools, several g-spot tools, some work better than others, I’ve been able to steadily get to the point where I can produce more and more liquid, and to the point where its not so hard for me to relax into it, it cums easier, I can ejaculate quite profusely, another part of it is, I have to be in the right emotional state, can’t be tense or anxious, in the right state I can produce quite a bit

when I released, it was so forceful, just about hit my knees, quite a lot of liquid, I drenched this blanket, the outer layer is really nice micro fiber, one side feels more fleecy, long or soft, not sure what core is made of, nice heavy quality, almost feels like a really thick, aluminum foil, that’s what’s in the core, of thick micro fiber, I kinda ran a test, ejaculated very profusely, could literally feel seem from liquid on the other side, could feel the heat rising up and no leaks

also, another thing I’ve used it for successfully is with menstruation, a lot of women, I can not have a period without leaking through and ruining sheets, no matter how I try to prevent it, I’m forever leaking, worked so well absorbing fluid from squirting, do have heavy periods, never had a leak through with that, mine is black so never shows any stains

TP: reconcile massage therapy and erotic/sensual body work

AL: conventional massage, faces challenges, sex trafficking we do have massage parlors, people go in and pay to essentially have a hand job, we do have a lot of legitimate medical therapeutic pockets of massage as well, I might get some flack for saying this, I feel like the massage field, massage industry is kind of like the porn industry, range is so wide and diverse, really ranges from light to dark, because of the world that we live in and the way that that works right now, right now we are in a situation within the industry where it is more restricted, more regulated, sometimes makes it harder for things that really need to be integrated as therapies and modalities, it does present a barrier to those things developing, situation where a few bad apples can ruin the bunch, I think that I’m sure there are some reputable therapeutic professional body workers in the world, who are addressing the issue of storing trauma within the sexual organs, because of the state of the world and restrictions within the massage industry, more on the individual level, not rely on industry to be guiding force, really take it grass roots, take matters into our own hands, start to explore our own bodies, we need connect with our own bodies and own abilities, innate inner wisdom that you wake up when you explore these inner realms, realizations and states of being that we come to naturally

as I’ve gone on this journey, I’m not having to force or dictate, as I peel back each later, with each layer of trauma, and stuckness that I peel away, I deepen in to my more authentic self, the more I go with this the more that it comes out, my own intuition, if something is right for me or if not, we’re in an information overload, not just at the tip of fingers, but its being thrown at us, so important to be in touch with your own inner voice, to know if something is right for you or its not

deeper impact if it’s coming from the grassroots, inner knowing that then grows outwards, we’re gonna find the most powerful transformation and improvement and growth when it comes to sensual and erotic body work, hoping to come from too, how do we take our knowledge as professionals within different niches, being a sex coach or relationship coach, any of these different titles and hats, sexual awakening, how do we bring the practical application of that to your average laymen who might not have the training, they can start to connect with deep wisdom they do have within themselves its just dormant, wake up to their own master, and that’s kind of what I’m hoping to bring in from my perspective, and from my own personal experience, I want to help people start from where they are, and connect and ground in from their own power and own personal voice, so it’s not something they have to go do, a licensed body worker, they feel

really just getting started, so many things ready to pop, can’t keep my mouth shut about these things, finding ways to talk about it, one way or another, can’t keep it inside anymore, next time I come on, this has been a lot of fun, hope there is a next time, will have my own links, more of my own thing going by then, on my path and expression, last words or thoughts

I’m directing this to everybody in general, women who are listening, encourage you to love yourself unconditionally, touch yourself as an extension of that love that you have for yourself, with the utmost respect and regard, get in there, re-establish your connection with you body, whether you’re in a relationship or not, my sexuality is for me, that’s independent of what somebody else gets from it, for my own self growth, and pleasure and enjoyment, encourage women to get in there, connect with your own body, love yourself, touch yourself, see how that open’s your life up in ways you can’t imagine, so many ways the work I’ve done has touched and impacted other areas of my life

 

Seeking the Soul of Local Tantric Energy with Reverend Priestess Sandivel TPP240

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In this episode I’m joined by iX-Chel

For a conversation about what she’s been up to of late, her new insights into male sexual continence and energy cultivation, her thoughts on sex workers’ empowerment, her upcoming retreat, and much more!

About iX-Chel:

Reverend Priestess Sandivel, best known as iX-Chel Sandivel, is an intimacy mentor and guide. An Elite Tantra Educator and former Nike Elite Sponsored Runner, she was born in Mexico City and raised in Southern California. She is passionate about creating safe and expansive experiences that allow the human spirit to evolve with ecstatic awareness, confidence and self-love through her mentorship programs, personalized retreats in the tropical jungles of Mexico and playshop events all over the world.

Though movement practices, cultural experience, tantric breathing techniques and ceremonies, Sandivel supports others to discover a profound, ever lasting and orgasmic love within.

Adoring the Beloved Within: www.sandivel.com/retreat

Yoni Squirting for Sexual-Spiritual Health and Wellness with Grace Diaz TPP237

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In this episode I’m joined again by Grace Diaz to learn all about yoni squirting!

About Grace:

My passion of healing began at the age of ten, when my father, a Reiki Master of 20 years initiated me as a Reiki Master in Medellin, Colombia. For years after arriving back to the United States, I began teaching Usui Reiki all over the east coast.

Reiki lead me to Tantra. I was initiated and certified into Shakti-Pakti-Tantric-Yoga by my mentor Tafari Sudra, in 2011, and it allowed me to heal my 10-year eating disorder through what I believe was a neuroplastic effect.

My organizations, Yoni Grace, LLC and The Vaginal Voice Foundation along with my book, “How to Use the Yoni Egg for Sensual Healing” were created to share the wisdom I experienced with Vaginal Yoga and Yoni Eggs.

In 2011 I began distributing Yoni Eggs to women worldwide while educating them through what I was taught through interviewing over 5,000 women in Yoni Egg focus groups.

I host Vaginal Yoni Egg Yoga events in the Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami Beach, New York, Denver, Bogota and Medellin, Colombia and even in Istanbul, Turkey.

I also certify women in Vaginal Yoni Egg Yoga training for their at-home businesses.

My Vaginal Yoni Egg Yoga events are one of a kind and focus on helping women embrace their sensual wisdom for spiritual and physical wellbeing.

Please visit her website at:
https://yonigrace.com/

 

The Sacred Sexual Healing Path of Gay Tantra Teacher Brad Amberheart TPP233

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In this episode I’m joined by Brad Amberheart

My new gay tantra hero has joined me for a deep exploration of all things gay and tantra. He takes us on a journey through his journey, a cinematic adventure behind the veil and into the inner sanctum of a magical priest of love. I felt lifted out-of-body and into the clouds while experiencing his eloquent narrative of personal evolution, healing, empowerment, transformation, and transcendence.  I was in the perfect mood to shove off the shore of normal waking consciousness to dance within the erotic consciousness of Brad’s historic evolutionary path towards bigger and bigger love.

About Brad:

Brad Amberheart is a Tantric sex coach and erotic workshop facilitator who works primarily with gay men. His primary passion is working 1-on-1 with men who are ready to explore erotic ecstasy as a pathway to a higher understanding of who we are and why we’re here. Brad has also led transformational erotic rituals at international Tantra festivals for people of all genders, including the Hawaii Tantra Festival and the Tantra Love Fest in Glastonbury, UK. Between 2017 and 2020, he wrote more than 120 concepts for conscious evolutionary Gay Sex videos and worked on 7 gay erotic film sets to coach male erotic models in how to convey a deeper sense of heightened sexual freedom and expression on camera. His latest endeavor, as of January 2020, is the launch of his podcast series, Gay Tantra, which is the first podcast series in the world devoted fully to the experiential practice of Tantra, Sexual Magic, and Erotic Mysticism for men who have sex with men. To listen to his podcast, watch his gay erotic videos, or book a Tantric Sex coaching session in person or via video conferencing, please visit bradamberheart.com

 

My (not verbatim) show notes: 

Tantric sex coach, erotic workshop facilitator for gay men, host of gay tantra podcast

Gratitude to tantrapunk podcast for invitation, a month ago, searching for gay tantra podcasts, closest that came up was tantra punk because of interviews with Jason Tantra and others, listened to quite a few podcasts, deeply touched by transcendental eroticism, self pleasuring that encouraged men to cherish our own bodies, and use orgasm for healing

right when just about to contact tantra punk, I got an email we found one another at the same time

sitting in same bedroom in grandmother’s house, live in western north carolina, talking today from home of ancestors, family lived for 5 generations, same cedar tree I decorated with lights over the holidays that was my height when I was twelve, now the same age as me, gigantic cedar tree that I can go in and hide and masturbate if I want to, right in the front yard, I think that’s a good frame work for what I’m about to tell you

grew up in very conservative religious background, lucky enough to have parents that were open sexually, even though 70s, father was deeply wounded emotionally and spiritually by the Vietnam war, I came into a world of turmoil and chaos

parents thought sex was a very important part of life, educated to embrace sex and its beauty

went to church, encouraged to wait until marriage to engage sexually, parents didn’t subscribe to that

even though baptist church, it was quite moderate. The horror stories about fundamentalist religions weren’t a reality

always cared for, always loved

when got into high school, more than before, became problem child

asked questions you’re not supposed to ask

Jesus never got married, how old was he when he did, is there anything in the bible about him having sex with anyone, because you’re not supposed to have sex before marriage, does that mean that Jesus never got to do you want me to die a 33 year old virgin, nailed on a cross

pleaded with youth minister to talk, he looked at me with kind eyes, I feel like a lot of people are asking the questions you’re asking but you’re the only one with courage to ask, I wonder what Jesus’ sex life was like

he got married, after wedding we all looked with longing, maybe he’s getting some now

still what really impressive, miraculously I was not shunned, encouraged to explore curiosity

curiosity is a foundational root of what it means to be on a tantric path

heard of tantra first from sister, she said, have you ever heard that there’s certain guys in the world that instead of ejaculating, they use that energy for other things and have these trippy experiences

didn’t hear the word again for many years, didn’t have sex with anyone all the way from puberty until I was 22 years old, partly because of religious upbringing, and partly because of craving, longing, excitement related to men, attributed it to admiration

if I would see a hunky guy there was a certain excitement

also noticed going on dates with women, it was done from a place of attempting to please relatives, to convince them I was normal

greatest obsession was to study all day saturday, for international science fair, studied sun spots through a telescope every day, instead of having sex

while every body else was exploring sexuality if they were lucky, I was at the library, I was a total nerd

went to church every sunday, even when parents quit going, I was the spiritual leader of the family, always asked to say the prayer

what’s more relevant, I remained disconnected from other people sexually all through college

I was religious but at the same time rebellious

celebrate new years in florida with my cousin

I wonder what jesus’ sex life was life, I’m 22, I don’t really want to die a virgin

willing to find any woman who’d be willing to experiment with me

wasn’t able to find anyone that wanted to go to bed with me

story going on in my mind, maybe people who go to bed with people of same sex was because they couldn’t get in bed with someone of the same sex

the story I got about homosexuality was not pretty, not positive, not encouraging, it was scary

tantra, in retrospect, for all the years that I wasn’t having sex I was pursuing other passions and putting a lot of energy into really creative work

how did I ever get on a tantric path, all the times masturbated by myself, I was on a tantric path, I was harnessing my energy and putting into what I cared about even when I wasn’t having sex

learned how to take self into fits of excitement and ecstasy, at that age I ejaculated a lot, so I found every creative way to shoot my cum all over the place

I became my most devoted and delighted sex partner

I had a lot of fun by myself, didn’t know til in college, most guys masturbate with their hand

I actually found it much more pleasurable to fuck the bed, I would writhe and squirm all over soft sheets and make noises into the pillow, I loved ejaculating onto the sheets, didn’t realize that not everybody did that

cultivating an ecstatic whole body practice

when I did find a willing, exuberant, excited sex partner, the ecstasy I had been cultivating on my own 9 years, was over the top with another human being, on top of a wonderful man’s body in Alaska, marvelous orgasm after orgasm for hours, must have ejaculated 4 or 5 times, I was still 22, now looking back, years of whole body jack off fun by myself became the foundation for years of euphoric sexual bliss with other men

the tantric path made itself known to me, overtly around the year 2000, I was 26 years old, had been in a corporate job for several years, traveling back and forth to Siberia, environmental consult to gold mining companies, had no sex life

Still investing in what I really cared about, didn’t have sex partners other than self

sit in closet, get high smoking pot, get out a stack of porn mags, started to noticed even though all my porn mags had women in them, they also had men, loved to seeing men’s cum, loved seeing to men and woman together, undeniable theme

one night jacking of in the closet by myself and said, wow I live in a city of 100,000 people, there must be someone else out there who would love to do this with me right now

ventured out of closet, went to a bar, chatted up the cutest guys I could find and I had hours and hours and hours of mind blowing sex as often as I liked, if there had been any guilt or shame or trepidation, I took 9 years to get over it

when I came out the closet, I came out with flying colors

tantric path continued, something was happening that was not normal, not typical

I would be making love with a guy, no penetration with first 20 or 30 partners I enjoyed, always face to face body to body cock to cock lips to lips, over the top orgasmic, wasn’t any penetration but would find that, would allow self to completely lose myself, didn’t have to hold on to earthly reality, go flying, when I would come to, the men I would be with would be like, “dude I have neighbors”, what do you mean what do they have to do with anything, well you’re making a lot of noise man, what else would I do I’ve waited 9 years to enjoy this

they would enjoy it but they would try to shut me down

I hear this from friends when they make love with women, always concerned with how big it’s gonna be and how loud

at present moment I hold play parties for people of all genders, last play party, all of the noise that came out of my house was the screaming orgasms of women, didn’t hear men making any noise, windows were open, screams going through whole neighborhood

I told everybody in the beginning, it’s spring time its hot windows open, if you’re going to scream and orgasm, consider that a blessing to the people who live here, whatever you’re facing aim that energy into the earth, that it can bless this ground that has suffered so much for so many generations and so that the people near by can be blessed, consider the people on this continent that are hurting and let your waves reach those people

and I heard a lot of screaming from women, because, frankly I don’t know how many places in the world we have sanctuary to really allow that unstoppable orgasm to come out, I really feel it has frightened men for a long time, it frightened many of my sex partners early on

I had never been with anyone, I had only been with my ecstatic self, when nobody was home in my parents house, I was shouting hallelujah, I was screaming because it felt so fucking good, I didn’ tknow anything about holding it back

learned about body electric school in 1999, had been hearing more about this tantric thing

workshops where guys rubbed on one another’s cocks, and they would see colors, and visions , and maybe speak in tongues

room full of men would go into whole body orgasmic bliss but nobody ejaculated

it was really trendy in the 90s, a lot of people talked about it, wow I did it and I saw colors

I could travel back and forth in time, very different than what I was seeing in porn, to this day when I watch porn, still haven’t seen one that shows people having a transcendental experience, where they’re flying above the oceans and swimming with the dolphins while they make love

still waiting, when I make love I get to swim through oceans, I get to hear the whales, I get to smell the salt air, I get to travel through the world and its what I want for people to know more anything is that in addition to being a fuck load of fun to have sex, it’s also a vehicle that connects us to everything alive on the earth, and everything that ever has lived, no such thing as death, people that came before are here alive and we can visit with them, this is the potential of our sex, that I’m not hearing spoken about except out of my own mouth,

my tantra speaker spoke about it when I finally tantra, after the body electric school, where I went to workshops where men rubbed on each other’s cocks like a magic jenie bottle and transcendental experiences

when I was invited to my first tantra workshop I said well what is it, is it a tantra massage and he said no, it’s tantra

you mean tantra is different than massage, he said yeah it is

I went to this workshop in a log cabin, with some one to this day I consider to be one of the most authentic and resonant lineages of tantra that I have found, rudolph valentine

we do this tantra workshop in a log cabin, it’s hot, but there’s a pond and we bathe in a pond

it’s great we’ve done it lots of time, you should come, so I did

12 men there, all got naked, lined up on bank of pond, farm pond with frogs in it, every few minutes, hear them and nights sounds, crickets, we all line up, leader motions for us to take step forward, 12 men take a step into this pond with water up to our chest, remembered grandmother, I remembered her saying she was baptized in a pond, as soon as that thought came to me, the workshop leaders invited us to get into a circle, the two of them got into the center of the circle and they invited the first person to step in to the center of the circle, I thought are they really gonna do what I think they’re gonna do, I decided to go first, I stepped into the circle, one of them put his hand behind my head, the other held my hand, they both looked at me and I knew what was happening, they nodded as if to signal are you ready, I shook my head,i let out a wail, I stood in the middle of this pond with 9 men surrounding me, and two holding me in the center, and I wailed, I felt the sorrow and the disconnection of how I had been to be loved and cherished by a spiritual community and the pain of how it felt to be disconnected from your spiritual roots, in my heart I had a prayer that this time I would embark on a spiritual path that would hold everything that I am and allow me to be everything that I could be, and had room for every part of me, all of me the slut the priest, the father the son the man the woman everything in side of me the dark the light I wanted that path that could hold me, that was what tantra was, that was what tantra meant

I nodded, and they immersed me in the water and I had my second baptism, the first time was inside of a church when I was 6 years old inside of tank, they put you in this paper robe, and they bring you up out of the water and the whole church can see you all wet, with this paper clinging to your body

here I was in the pond, naked being baptized, this is the way to do it

moments in the workshop: looked at one of the teachers and said I’m so glad that I finally met my teacher, what do you mean, you’ve already had a teacher, what are you talking about, because you told me about the person that taught you everything, everything you already need to know about tantra was already taught to me, who was it, he said, your grandmother

my grandmother was a master at finding light in the darkness and master of turning obstacles into means, when I finally did meet my tantra teachers, 28 years after I first met my grandmother they told me the same things that she had, they were just the first to put it into words, my grandmother always had plenty when there was nothing, she had joy even when she lived in hell, she found heaven in hell, I’m sitting right now in the house that she lived and died in

my tantra teachers told me that tantra is the consummation of the inner marriage and while some of us look for a partner outside of ourselves to marry, most of us skip the essential step of finding that partner within ourselves first, I had a lot of time to practice that inner marriage, it’s a never ending relationship just like any marriage

shadow work, all of those pieces of ourselves that we think are ugly that we wouldn’t want others to know

its an instinct, there’s a part in us that isn’t always happy

part of us that feels angry, part of us that feels scared, there’s a part of us that feels enraptured, a part of us that feels enraged, the further we walk on the tantra path we’re prompted to see that there’s a place for all of this, to find the marriage of these opposites, the ultimate journey of what tantra really is all about

one more thing I want to add, I happen to be a gay man, I really love the word faggot, I embrace that word as part of my magic, and I happen to be a faggot who really loves to make love with women who love faggots, have had ecstatically joyful partners who were female, I had to embrace my delight and love of other men, before I could allow myself to be the complete faggot I am in bed with women

had precisely two maybe three ecstatic female lovers, they are female lovers that really love gay men,it’s really helped me to see the perfection that a lot of men who have sex almost exclusively with women, also have the complete right to enjoy sexual freedom with other men without necessarily having to put a label on it

visually when I look at women’s bodies, I can admire them I can appreciate the embodiment of the goddess and yet its way different, it’s not like a look at a woman and go I really want to have that right now, I really only objectify men

what happens with women, I approach it as an opportunity to commune with the divine, pathway that connects us with the divine, it no longer matters how old they are, how fat or thin they are, kinda fem or kinda butch, doesn’t matter what gender they are, if you’ve found source of your erotic expression in yourself and you love erotic expression for the pure excitement and sake of erotic expression it is possible to journey ecstatically and cathartically with a wide diversity of partners, some people ask me, how can you have sex with someone you’re not attracted to

one of my primary lovers is twice my age, I’m in my 40s, one of my lovers is in his 80s, we have some of the most transcendental experiences that I have with any partner, I make love with people not because of the way they look or how old they are, but authentically because I want to commune with the divine, I like to travel I like to transcend time and space, I get a lot of insight and guidance for what I’m gonna do with my life when I’m in that state, that’s why I make love

people say what type of person are you into, what type of person turns you on, I say a person who’s fuckin as excited as fuck to make love with me, that’s the kind that really turns me on, if they’re excited, I’m excited, if I’m excited they’re excited, there’s a resonance, that transcends appearance, age, social class all that bullshit

women, I’m really grateful for women because, making love with women was like, a later stage threshold that I crossed because that was when I really recognized, wow, I can have a transcendental erotic experience, and be a faggot with a person of any gender, I can, it can’t just be anyone, it has to be someone who knows we’re on a journey, and we’re connecting with something bigger than ourselves, if a woman just wants my dick its not gonna work, lots of time I don’t even get hard when I have sex, if I’m in a cathartic whole body state nobodies paying attention to how hard my dick is, that would be a liberating lesson if more men in the world were able to feel that the ability to connect ecstatically with the divine and another human being is completely independent of what they’re cock is doing, that’s radical

some of the most whole body orgasmic states I’ve ever experienced and witnessed were with people who’s cocks weren’t hard, don’t get me wrong I love hard dick AND there are a lot of ways to go into cathartic whole body ecstasy

homophobia…i barely use the word anymore, don’t often feel like I’m battling homophobia, which is a beautiful place to be

our world really does shift with the shift of our inner perception, the transformation of ourselves and planet using sexual pleasure, what I’m really asking of people to invite ourselves to consider that ecstatic sexual pleasure is available to far more of us than we’ve ever dreamed

we feel we need a partner of a certain type, in reality if we join with other partners who recognized that we have the opportunity to fly, to sail through the skies and the seas, experience realities beyond what we see, what meets the eye, we have the opportunity to go into multiple realities, the future on planet earth is that we’re going to see a world more filled with people who are excited about having sex with a variety of partners, less focused on getting hard, ejaculating, and fulfilling a whole checklist of what they think needs to be done to have great sex, and focusing more on oh my god, we have an energy field right now where if we introduce the faintest intention, that is going to manifest, as soon as we say it is done

10 years ago I spoke the impossible, I was in a native american ceremony with 100 queer people and I was asked why I came and I said I want to see the day when our people can fuck and enjoy the fuck out of each other and squirt our seed inside of one another and know we’re actually healing one another not killing one another

full on sexual delight was some how equated with death

I want our people to be able to share our medicine free from fear, healing each other not killing each other, I had no way of conceiving how that would be possible, today there are multiple opportunities for people to enjoy sexual pleasure with people of all genders like never before free from fear, a lot of people are using Prep, they’re taking something that allows them to free themselves from the acute anxiety that has for all too long accompanied them and their sex

not an advocate, or promoter, nor do I discourage people to use things things

the world has transformed, we have sex with each other for healing and health

its what brings us life

what’s coming up, the most exciting thing happening in my tantric path, is the gay tantra podcast

12/31/19 I issued the first episode, it was pretty hard core, it was a hard core sex scene, interspersed with sacred magic, to alert people that raunch, kink, and downright ass fucking is integrated with magic and health and healing, followed with talk with 8 other men, with how tantra relates to sex among men, created an exercise people can do

I’ve contributed to the creation of over 120 evolutionary gay erotic videos, all on my website:

bradamberheart.com

on the home page, I have links to the evolutionary gay erotic videos, gay tantra podcast, soon more links to upcoming events world wide

Jason Tantra and partner, created an app, that allows conscientious gay men who are exploring other realms of sexual magic and healing to meet each other, created at the same time as the gay tantra podcast, master of mind of universe created the gay tantra podcast and tantra4gaymen app at the same time

even if you’re not gay, you just occasionally like to suck dick, listen to the gay tantra podcast

event’s coming up, will be posted on website, announced on gay tantra

series I’m most excited about is a series that teaches people how to use , or harness their sexual pleasure as a tool to connect with higher sources of wisdom and information: transcendental sexuality

receive insight, new knowledge, and information

super excited some of the videos I created are still being edited

it’s a really evolutionary time to live on earth, it’s an evolutionary time for men who are exploring conscious sexuality with other men, unifications happening through colleagues, Jason Tantra, Davey Wavey, collaboration on videos

a network has been created that’s spanning the globe, super excited about gay tantra as a platform

each month an exercise as part of the series, free guided sexercises, more to come

Lab Report: Shaktification as Non-Invasive Demonectomy TPP232

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sexual-healing-with-psychedelic-goddess-worship In this episode I share a lab report from mid 2019 which documents an important break through in my sexual healing with psychedelic goddess worship research. The mixed and mastered version of the Psychedelic Goddess Worship track on the Sexorcism the Tantric Opera album proved to have powerful potentials to induce what I’m calling “shaktification as non-invasive demonectomy. My (non-verbatim) show notes are below.

Non invasive is used for surgeries, the body is not penetrated

Man cave, goddess temple lave, unclinical lab, produced an album to create the vibrational landscape for a non-invasive demonectomy on my self

multiple sessions, increasing doses’

could solve the problem of how do you induce a non-invasive demonectomy, that’s effective, unlike the techniques of the dominant paradigm of exorcism, the catholic church and their protocols

with an understanding, time does not heal, if untreated the infections only get worse and in the case of men, there’s a higher potential of survivor-perpetrators

for women, less likely to harm others, but will often harm themselves, that’s the handy work of the demons that were inserted into them in acts of abuse and molestation

demons express themselves in female survivors much less as sexual offense

in males, less divine feminine grace, cults of gang rape, women don’t usually form thug cults of rape

don’t know of any witches who are known to have done that

but men, gang up and bully runts on football team, and geeks in the classroom, they gang up and rape the cheerleaders, their so susceptible and when you get survivors in that mix, its that much more of a cascading effect

it should be axiomatic, if that infection doesn’t get disinfected immediately, than you are harboring, just like Geiger shows us, is the “face huggers”, that’s what he’s talking about, it’s all demons, their parasites, inject themselves into human host, sexual aliens, if there was a xxx Giger, that’s me, showing what’s going on

gotta figure out how to interrupt the larval cycle, to interrupt the propagation

some times sexual penetration is appropriate, however there are times when it’s not

there’s a magical power that flows through, the goddess kali shaki, and the magic mushroom, what I can demonstrate and have footage of, is capturing the rapid seizure like convulsions that occur with the shakti is invoked, not just shivers, not just normal kriyas, a controlled seizer

a presence of mind, it’s possible to surrender, but be prepared, yoga, martial arts, dancing, landscaping, know my body and have agility to phase in and out of possession states

not faking, not faking, not a parlor trick, not a magic trick, not putting on a show

I have the ability to shut it off, goddess has been earning trust from me so I can surrender more
use elbows to brace neck, stay ahead of the sense of more intense movements

set and setting for combat training, you could use padding, or train on the beach

design consciousness of low impact, the sand absorbs impact, avoiding pavement

expecting to trash around, expecting to be taken for a ride, do due diligence to be warmed up enough

not be in a contortion to snap their neck, people doing jiu jitsu, they’re aware of when they’re in danger, and maneuver out of it

gotta be bad ass ninja warriors

it’s possible, I’ve proven to myself, that adding more people is beneficial, but in the dilemma of when you can’t add anybody, what do you do, well this seems to be it, maybe not the only thing, but could be more effective than calling the local priest exorcist

they did the deeds themselves and now they’re gonna do the exorcism, you brought the demons you’re not taking them out

sexorcism that doesn’t involve any inappropriate touch or any touch at all

it happened to me to a degree never before experienced

it’s happened before, but not to this extent

she’s like an infinite array of octopoid, insectoid, she has the ability to move you in a lot of different ways

she’s going in and doing a demonic abortion

what she’s doing is what an abortion doctor would do

as sad and heartbreaking as it can be, that’s what goddess kali is doing the demons in the chakras, she’s sucking and pulling them out

these are fully formed, although I do see often that there are multiple life stages, there are hatchlings, old ones, etc. we don’t know how long they live

shamans probably have a clue, but we’re grasping in the dark, but that’s what’s happening

if you watch sexorcism the tantric opera where there’s a lot of hand laying on people, sometimes just the aura, it’s a lot of handy work, but what has been achieved to an extreme with me, is that with the track “psychedelic goddess worship” singing the mantras along with it, its raiding the demon nest, allowing kali to do the demonectomy, extracting these violent creatures, shifts in the amount of demonic load, measurable, this is like colonics

I think I made an important discovery, a hands off, solo, non-invasive demonectomy, you may want to try this yourself and go from no medicine, to cannabis low to high dose, then mushrooms low to high dose, and experiment with the music, looping the track psychedelic goddess worship in setting where you have people watching over you, and you’re surrounded by cushions, and you have martial arts/yoga background, be agile like a cat to prevent injury, if that’s you and you’re suffering and you’ve not found healing in toxic relationships, in psychiatric drugs, or yoga postures, or vipasan, or being saved by Jesus, or getting an exorcism, or singing hare krisna, or doing a detox, I say try everything else , this is a last resort

these are things that I”ve seen that will turn you white, like Winston from Ghost Busters

old school orthodox sri rama krisna order kali worshipers say things like think about it, people go to kali when they’re crushed, when they’re hating life because “it least there will be peace”, they’re harangued by demons, you go to the kali temple and there is peace, hopefully not a patriarchal priesthood

I emphasis female kali priestesses in my work, trying to get back the secret mantras, and decode the art,

the braminization of the goddess, “she was a tribal deity who was absorbed into vedic pantheon”

she was/is a village goddess

decolonize your tantra

get back to psychedelic village level goddess worship

occupying armies, languages, soma, occupying, absorb goddesses take them away from the people then feed it back to them and it’s all corrupted, bastardization by priest craft, put in empire of ego, male ego

I bow down to women who are priestesses, sorting it out, pagan villager medicine woman shamanism craft, that’s what we want to get all the way back down to

the pure hearted matriarchs of the village, witch craft

I’ve said it enough times now, how to translate this, we need to give a voice to the witches and let them do it laboratory conditions

I’m just the messenger, the source is the dakinis and yoginis, who are in state of grace simply because they dont’ have a penis that can be weapons

I don’t have a clue about what was really going on with the cult of the 64 yoginis but there seems to have been a ratio of men to women where women are quite obliged to run the show, quite obliged to minimize and intelligently design with the shiva energy, operating within their coven

I will only get better and better at doing the scholarship on these claims

women are blessed and women are cursed and we need to address this without the backlash

we can be brothers in prostration to the goddess, and experience our masculinity in its most potent form

we’ll get hardest erections when we worship the goddess

ritualized sexual matriarch, that’s probably a useful simplified term

a more rapid depiction

high dose mushrooms, safe-ish setting

looping the track psychedelic goddess worship, mixed and mastered version

never before got as far

turned into an astral battlefield, astral combat, very much like scene in big trouble in little china, when Lo Pan fights Eg Shen, astral avatars battle on their behalf

I got into contortions, spontaneous mudras, like speaking in tongues with your hands, never been trained to do, never done before, seeing my fingers become like black widow spider legs, beautiful sacred geometric formations, like weaving a spider web, as I invoke her more and sing her in more, I become what looks like a mix of black soldier fly and cobra, slithering sounds, autonomically happening the more I surrender, seeing myself as sort of dragon fly mixed with black widow, seeing now how you can allow yourself to be, in a benevolent manner, but possessed, so she can devour demons through you

co-presence between dimensions, I had to think omg this is the fly, I’m Jeff Goldbloom, but that was so gruesome and hideous, but this was beautiful, how could that be re-imagined so it was totally beautiful…so the triumphantness of the incredible hulk, still shocking and bizarre, but whats’ the more beautiful transformation where you see it as totally beautiful and elegant, nothing horrific about it, what would that be, there’s a shape shifting character.

it’s like super mario brothers when you get the tanuki suit, you jump on the mushroom and then basically you become big, you go fast, you have super powers you jump high, game play is enhanced, and with the tanuki suit you get this magic item, this feather, if you get it you can jump and almost fly, you get lift off like a helicopter, its been a long time but the thing I’m pointing to is, imagine you have the power to shape shift, as powerful as incredible hulk but not as nasty and freakish as the fly, it’s not like a horror movie like Freddie Kreuger, nightmare on elm street part two where he comes out of the guy and just sheds him, that’s the ugly version, that’s not what I’m talking about, she’s elegantly sharing my space, I am her she is me, queen bee, cobra snake, transitioning to that with the beauty and elegance of the tanuki suit. Maybe in the Star Trek movie where Kirk ends up getting it on with a shape shifter, she was totally hot, she was actually a beast that can shape shift, imagine that you could totally shape shift into a creature and have it be seamless

it’s possible to invoke the goddess and for her to embody you, and not just putting on make up and pretending to be her iconic formation
I normally see her outside of me, this time more than ever, she enveloped me, I’ve been enveloped by her, clamped down on me, fucking me to purify my chakras, but still being outside of me, penetrating, workign through me, she can swim through me, but like being enveloped by a jellyfish, about to get teeth into my chakras

but this way, she is in my like thundercats

another bad version is like the Edgar suit from Men in Black, demons wear me like the Edgar suit, but Kali wears me to extract the demons from the Edgar suit so I can just be Edgar again, then she’s in the suit, but not possessing to do harm

Sufiana didn’t report becoming the insectoid being, but she described herself rolling out her tongue and hissing, the deity possession trance state, the shamanic healing state

I documented that process later, being very limited financially, very limited with legal sanctioning if at all, having some blessing and bold outlaws to join forces with me, not me manipulated a cult, but me offering educational tools, not involving my dick

I keep my pants on for people who are not my lovers, is that fair, that’s probably a fair way to say it, if you’re my client my pants are on, if you’re my lover, that’s negotiable

back to the non-invasive…able to move massive chunks, being rattled like a freight train, by her, squeezing and working with her to do the contracts, she’s doing the work of the abortion doctor, while I’ll in contracts and pushing out at the same time, it’s so harsh, but you know there have to have been abortions throughout time in crude conditions, certainly not modern legally sanctioned conditions, where the intent was to kill the fetus during the contractions of labor

she’s an insectoid alien goddess, with blackskin, and bejeweled eyes, like the tantric scriptures say, read the 1008 names of Kali and you’ll see the depictions

I need artists to help me with this, graphic novelists, visionary artists

if you could see a woman in labor, shaking convulsing, contracting, seizures and convulsion and simultaneously a female abortion doctor reaching in so as not to leave pieces inside trying to get everything out in one whole piece and eating that thing, but it’s not a baby it’s not in the womb, it’s demons in the chakras

an interplay between goddess kali as the hungry abortion doctor, it’s her doing what she’s evolved to do which is eat demons, I’m serving my demons to the goddess,

an interplay of surrender, and the embodying of the goddess through allow her energy and body to enter your body in a way that is non invasive, she is invasive but in a good way and in a welcomed way,

but no instruments, no cutting devices, no fingers, hands, sexual contact by humans, that’s the best way to describe what’s happening
been in this state many many times, what was different this time was the force

this was the first time I was able to do what I wanted to do all these years, was able to carry it out, to a potent degree, get a massive chunk of demonic biomass, with love and power and strength and courage of the goddess inside of me, her power to purge me, with her mandibles, ready to feast, and it being a much much bigger portion, to the degree that I got the sense that her stomach was full, it had only been oderves up to this point, they were just taking out small grains of rice with chopsticks, she was going in their with her salad tongs to get massive platefuls at once, she got so full, I felt like okay I’m exhausted, she’s full, but after these big chunks got out, hadn’t happened before

very light, blinding to the 3rd eye, sheaths my vision, no more seeing the demonic monsters coming out of me, that make alien look like bambi, all of it, once this massive chunk was taken out gets replaced by this beautiful white light, scaring me, did I damage my optic nerve, I’m just seeing pure white, fuck, there’s some kind of damage…no this is the loving light, dont’ freak out and panic now, go with it, enjoy

instructed to use my own hands, placed fingers against root chakra at the perineum, while the white light was there, use the power to seal the chakra, using massage, using this light healing energy, to use mudras, palm chakras, finger chakras, to do this healing work, like cauterizing a wound, the shakti through palm chakra and finger chakras whill the white light is there, wow, fuck yeah, anatomical surgical orthodoxy, what we think about when we talk about a chakra tune up

these analogies to auto mechanics and surgeons are very apt

you’re doing the work with her, auto-non invasive demonectomy

I had the power and free will to move my body, re-adjust for comfort, drink some water, get up and just make sure the door was locked, again, not ideal conditions

there you have it, what I’ve been working on for years, one of the most glorious since 5.5 year ago initiation with Sufiana

I would like to just be living in the world that we created, to never have been separated by financial duress, within the realm of reasonable periodicity, with medical staff, scientists, medical researchers, the Bangladesh UN security force, that’s what I fantasize about, having the support to do it right

this is like version 0.0001 of the technology, this is not ready, I don’t know what it’s ready for, if you’re suicidal right now and it’s a question of you killing yourself and you dabbling into what I’m talking about, I’m willing to take that risk, this isn’t medical advice, this isn’t therapeutic/psychiatric advise, I’ll make all the disclaimers, in the spirt of YOLO, (actually its not yolo because you live many times) don’t do this in the spirit that everybody wants to see the machine elves that Terence Mckenna talks about, this is a little more extreme than that, do this because it’s life and death for you right until we get the point with research to where so mild version exists, like salsa there will be mild, medium, hot, warning label, extreme hot

if you want to dabble because you’re an extreme case of demon infection, they’re in those hard to reach spots, there’s that song where my demons hide, you want to know, It’s possible to find out, I’m not gonna tell everyone to follow my path

Kali Mandir satsang, a lot of these scriptures, don’t think that they’re all agreed upon by all the priests and priestesses, there are things that are written in stone, but a lot of the scriptures were people exploring and taking notes, like a yogi could be saying “when I said this mantra, at this place and this time in this way, I got reversed gang banged by hot astral dakinis, and I don’t know if this will happen to you, this is me I’m doing me, you do you, I don’t want to implant thought forms and skew it, and contaminated the control group, I’m just trying to build on my own research, I love what the yogis say, talking about female astral non human entities, coming down purifying his soul and doing all this healing work, sounds like what I’m talking about and if he were on mushrooms he’d be able to describe in greater detail, or maybe he was a yogi that attained an endogenous psychedelic state

nothing new here, I’m saying things that have been suppressed for by patriarchy demonic war lords for 1000s of years, but were open source tech as sexual shamanic witchcraft, held by cultures of the world, just business as usually to maintain a shamanic community

when its a matter of infestation of lower chakras, there’s some modality that’s not creepy, predatory or abusive, to somehow empower people to have auto-non-invasive demonectomy sexorcism, auto invasive demonectomy sexorcism, I’ve milked my own prostate, kali possessing me, shards of light coming in, healing, demons coming out, most stunning gorgeous arrays, beauty is subjective, every woman and aspiring woman who ever put on make up with the intent to beautify herself, what every single one strives for is what can be seen when you invoke the goddess with these mantras, and with 3rd eye open with mushrooms

me doing me, phenomenologically, in my own bubble, the most beautiful feminine facial features, and graceful sensual movement, and just every woman or aspiring woman aspires to be, that’s what I’m given, that’s what I’m seeing and if it wasn’t for seeing that I would have ended me life a long time ago on this journey, the brutal beautiful truth is that you gotta go through hell to get to heaven, for the sake of what I’m saying now, I’ve seen the most grotesque creatures I could ever possibly imagine, and take all the monsters ever made in art and film and multiply that by a hundred, and you maybe will get close to how freakish and grotesque and disturbing and mortifying, miracle you’re not catatonic seeing this, the antidote to that hideousness, that makes it tolerable, to look at it as you’re pulling it out, the unpleasantness of removing a tape-worm, the unpleasantness of disinfecting that wound with that pus in it, and all of that, I know there are places in the world where there are blood parasite or urinary tract parasites, pulling a barbed fish parasite out of your urethra, that should feel pretty hideous and I bet that what I see in these ceremonies induces a similar level of mortification, disgust that you would have if you had to do that, while I’ve had to endure that hideousness, if you ever see the electron microscope of blood parasites, imagine if they were just, if you were in a realm where you were shrunken down to be in a massively dense cluster of all kinds of different blood parasites the ones with the circular mouths, and the ravor sharp thorny looking teeth, and weird suckers and pincers, the most alien, bizarre, monstrous, aquatic looking, arthropod looking blood parasites, imagine you were shrunken down a million times and being eaten alive but what, in scale wise becomes these giant giant monsters, then that’s what it feels like and looks like in there, I’m afraid to teach anyone to do what I have done because I fear that they would ever come back from that state of visual disturbance to where they wouldn’t just immediately slit there own wrists and literally rip there own eyes out,not knowing that they can’t reach far enough in to pull their pineal gland out, are you gonna crack open your head and pull your fuckin 3rd eye out and stomp on it, that’s what you’re gonna wanna do if you fuckin see the shit I’ve seen, omg, its nothing the shamans of the amazon don’t see every fucking day, it’s business as usual to have to confront these grotesque forms of life, if you know that you are bigger than them and you step back and you go no I’m not the shrunken millionth of a size me inside of of their world, their inside of my world and I can step up to them like standing up to a bully and I can exorcism them and I can purge them with the medicine, of course you have icaros in south America , and you have mantras in India, how to have syncretic shamanism, sacred sexuality and healing work, lets bring the best of the cultures and not be left with the patriarchal douche-baggery of suppressing the feminine

seeking the path of the goddess here we are, here I am

I get to see the antidote to that hideousness which is the extreme beauty

what makes it all worth it is the sweet beautiful blessed honor of beholding and being imbued with and making love with and being possessed by and suited up by, I have been suited up by the most loving most beautiful, most exquisitely constructed bioarchitecture deity, I don’t know maybe you gotta be the kind of person that things ants and bees are cute

this is the way to look at it, if you’ve ever thought of how in cartoons they’ve made ants and bees look pretty and feminine, and then sexualize that and m ake it into a super hot, goth, metal, sort of like, matrixy club, goth industrial club, shining latex, everything we think about the dark erotic, she is the dark erotic cartoon bee spider, just a cuteness and sexiness and a otherworldliness and an alienness, how many sexy beautiful loving aliens have we seen in sci fi, someone tell me, some show me some, I’m sure they’re in different comics and things, some of the arists they’re doing it, they’re bringing it, astral ecology with Tom Denney, his artwork is the cover of my book, you only have to wait until my book is released to see what I’m talking about, the beautiful feminine alien insectoid goddess who will turn you on, turn you inside out, but but you right back together, surgically restore the soul parts, tuck your chakras back in to your astral body, kiss you goodnight, tuck you in, all the works, the motherly maternal aspect, the sexual healing dakini wild, again, I’m saying nothing new, because you go to an orthodox kali puja and they are saying kali we love you you are the mother, you are the lover you are the friend, and not at all invoking, you hear the word mofo all the time in this culture, all over the world, I don’t know what’s going on there, this is not a Fredian Oedeple kink or neurosis, this is very different and it’s it’s own thing, I kind of went through my messiah complex already, at first I wanted everybody to fuckin know this, because it defeats the tyranny of all patriarchal world religions, more powerful more profound, more radical, more anarchistic, more revolutionary than any prophet, any christ, any saint, in buddha, any yogi,none of them delivery this unless they’re deep into the worship of kali or the tantric goddesses, of which kali is often considered to be the mother matriarchy, the queen bee of the many goddesses of the tantric pantheon, which is influenced with the vedic pantheon but has interplay ultimately with the village goddesses

the beauty is out there, the truth is out there, the beauty is in her, the truth is in there, you’ll see her the way I see her in Tom Denney’s book and on the cover of my book and I didn’t commission him to do that, he did that because he is tuned in as an artist, the way Terence Mckenna describes it to be an artist who sees the future, who can tap into the astral plane, or have the astral plane tap into them, wish me luck

pray for my protection, I’ll be doing my best to sheriff the perimeter of our reality and clean up the infection sites and to fortify the souls of the next generation and to really hospice the souls of this generation, where I am feeding and nourishing many goddesses and keeping myself as humble as possible with as small as a physical footprint of property ownership as possible, with as few possession as possible, and if surrender my money and wealth as it comes through as I have been doing to my beloved priestesses and trust that as long as they hold the sword above my hands and my head and they chose not to let the sword fall on to my arms and onto my neck than I will be continuing to do my work in a good way, and they will be the beneficiaries, they will be my sexecutioners if the time comes, each with their sharpened swords, ready to take a whack, so be it

Shamanic Pornography and the Ethics of Consent TPP230

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In this episode I’m sharing the 2019 Xbiz Show Consent Round Table session where I respectfully introduced a question for the panel on the ethics of consent for psychedelic shamanic pornography. Not knowing how I’d be received it took a bit of bravery to speak up but I was met with gracious insight and advisement from industry veterans. They were on point with their concerns and dissuasive remarks, all of which I take to heart and value like gold. I feel that whether you’re a sex work, porn performer or producer, or so called “civilian” with no involvement in the sex industry, this panel is very enlightening, and I thank them all very much for briefly holding space for my niche question.

Crypto-Tantrism and Financial Continence with Lawrence Lanoff TPP229

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In this episode I’m joined by my revered crypto-tantric adept Lawrence Lanoff for an adventurous exploration of the intersections of crypto and tantra. He helps provide deep ancient and modern wisdom for surfing the big waves of changing times and maintaining a heart centered, and cool headed space of love, compassion, and fun.

We share insights on navigating the stormy crypto-currency markets and integrating new evolving trends of decentralized finance, stable coins, and other emerging crypto apps and tech.

I also share a great piece written by the musician Ben Lee on the Tantric Yoga of HODL:

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@benleemusic/the-tantric-yoga-of-hodl

About Lawrence:

Lawrence is an award winning filmmaker, successful entrepreneur and early technology adopter who’s been investing in cryptocurrency since 2011.

He has directed and produced 11 feature films. Lawrence led a production team that won a Chicago Film Festival award and a United Nations Global 500 Award for writing and creating the documentary “We Can Make a Difference”.

Lawrence co-founded Lip Ink, generating upwards of $100mm in revenue and numerous product patents.

Lawrence is a best selling author, world renowned life coach, and was a featured expert in Neil Strauss’ New York Times Bestseller “The Truth”.

Please follow up with Lawrence here:
http://www.lawrencelanoff.com/

Sexorcism the Tantric Opera 01 Post-Ceremony Interview TPP228

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In this episode I’m sharing the post-ceremony interview from Sexorcism the Tantric Opera Episode 01 “Erotic Ghostbusting”.  It’s a trip to re-listen 3 years later and compassionately judge myself for how I walked a narrow path to sustain integrity to my bold claims. Life has not been a beach since then, in some ways I’ve flourished, in some ways I’ve floundered, but I’ve made progress, and as any aspiring scientific explorer knows, the process of proving out theories can be painfully slow. All in all, every breakthrough big and small will always be sweeter the fewer and further between that they are.  The wisdom of the shakti energy of transformation can be fast, but it can also be slow. Trusting, keeping the faith, and holding on for dear life to the integrity of scientific methods and medical study ethics is the name of the long game…

Sexorcism the Tantric Opera 01 Pre-Ceremony Interview TPP227

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In this episode I’m sharing the pre-ceremony interview from Sexorcism the Tantric Opera Episode 01 “Erotic Ghostbusting”. The episode included a beautiful and powerful selection of clips from the full interview and I’ve been holding on to the whole interview for a while with the intent to eventually publish. After re-listening I feel that I’ve held true to the values and principles spoken over 3 years ago now. While I’ve told my story many times, each context brings different energy, passion, purpose, and insight to the transpersonal and universal themes contained within. The moment in my personal evolution that this interview documents is, in a classical tantric sense, as timeless and permanent as an ancient stone, yet as fleeting and transitory as a rain drop over the ocean. I was blessed to be held and heard in this interview and I will return to this moment if I ever feel led astray from my core. It’s impossible to resist change of all kinds, but the spirit of resistance will always adapt to survive.

Beta Testing Innovations in Hypnotic Trauma Healing with Ravyn Ryder TPP220

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In this episode I’m joined by the illustrious and alluring Ravyn Ryder, a highly accomplished guidess of so many things pleasurable, shamanic, entrepreneurial and much more. In this episode we do a bit of an experiment whereby I volunteer to help beta test her innovative therapeutic modality involving eroticized hypnosis for healing. We catch up a bit on her endeavors, commiserate about the need for healers to do self-care, then she facilitates my opening up about deep childhood trauma, ill-fated sexual initiations, negative hard wiring through early stages of masturbation, how I may be able to use hypnosis techniques to re-parent myself retroactively, and much more.

This was a bit of a preliminary session in that it was mostly for me to open up to her so that should could take my input and go back to her alchemical laboratory formulate a program customized for my exact needs. So this is technically part one of what may be a multi-part series where she demonstrates the scope of her offering. I, of course am thrilled and honored to be blessed with this opportunity to be a part of her creative evolution, and I’ve been wanting to explore the hypnosis field much more as my experience has been minimal to date.

The hope is that our spelunking the sexual underworld and taking a proactive and constructive approach to confronting the collective subconsciousness of rape culture will lead to healing and transformation for all victims, perpetrators, and the future generations.

Please visit her website and check out her recent blog post on the effects of porn:

https://ravynryder.com/spirituallyscientificsexblog/effectsofporn

About Ravyn:
Ravyn Ryder is an Erotic Artist, Writer, and Sensual Educator. She has worked in the past professionally with men, women and couples as a Sensual Bodyworker, Dakini, Dominatrix, Courtesan and Long-Term Companion.

She is the creatrix of Body Ryding®, a sensual massage training sequence used to empower women by teaching erotic body slides, full body massage and the art of seduction.

She is a trained Tantric Educator and is a certified Practitioner and Trainer in the Art of Bondassage®. She has studied Swedish, Thai, Lomi Lomi, and Tantric massage with amazing healers all over the world.

She has worked with Shaman’s in Central and South America doing entheogenic medicine work in constant pursuit of personal growth and eager humbleness to learn more about the divine inner and outer universe. She has just recently returned from a 4 month stint in Central America and with a desire to shed light on both the beautiful and ugly complexities of healing with plant medicines, she is working on her first novel—an intimate memoir of her recent experience.

She has a degree in Behavioral Science with a minor in Marketing. She is a certified Life Coach, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Practitioner and is trained in Neuro-Linguistic Programming. Along with bodywork and training, she offers personal coaching to men, women and couples desiring to cultivate more pleasure in their lives.

Exploring the Lifestyle of a Phone Sex Artist with Sensual Sharon Somers TPP217

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In this episode I’m joined by Sensual Sharon Somers for a fun and exciting exploration of the lifestyle of a phone sex artist. We learn about how the industry works, what it takes to make it, what to expect, how she’s been able to make it for years as a small business woman, the freedom and efficiency of home business operations, how she compassionately entertains and soothes the bizarre and often wounded sexual psyches of countless men, the patterns she’s observed, the broader ramifications for a more sexually healthy and expressed society, and much much more!

About Sharon :

Sharon has been a phone sex operator, recording artist and writer for adult websites for 11 years now. Her voice is well known online for the recordings of hundreds of erotic short stories she has done that are posted on her own sites and on erotic short stories sites.

https://erotictalkphonesex.com/index.html

https://eroticaudiorecordings.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello Debra Levin podcast episode summaries who is a phone sex artist extraordinaire that’s all kinds of erotic audio and I reached out to The Exodus Community on the forms of extras. Net to see if there are any folks out there would like to do some self promotion and increase I had you keep folks on this podcast and had a few people step up and want to be on the show and then she’s one of them and I’m excited to share this beautiful wild Amazing adult industry with her and learn about 11 years I believe career in doing phone sex and an erotic audio media and I’m also in that game so I always love to meet other people who are doing doing that work and share that talk shopping and learn about some of the tricks of the trade so with that said Sharon do you want to tell us about it whatever detail is appropriate to come ask your true identity and to allow you to have your stage name but just curious if you could tell the story of Sharon Summers if it’s not totally your personal thank you very much for having me first of all being like a lot of ladies in the business unfortunately I got into it because of financial desperation granted that’s not the reason all women get into it but a lot do it, the last chance type of job for some people so I found myself doing that but I I found out pretty quickly that it actually fit perfectly in with my life I wanted something where I can work from home have the freedom of hours to login logout whenever I wanted if I need to go out for the day have a dentist appointment or want to go to the theater to see a matinee I don’t have anybody’s permission I can just log out and go and I love that kind of Freedom it it really just fits in with my nature so I started doing that and then very quickly after getting into the phone sex work I started doing the erotic audios and so clients will submit their stories that they’ve written about their fantasies and I will narrate them for them and they have those to enjoy and listen to over and over and over I mean want to call is over it’s over I don’t record calls or anything help clients don’t either but when they have an erotic audio they can just listen to that anytime they want that’s actually surprised me how many have said oh yes I do he’s a few times a week and I’m like wow you’re really getting your money’s worth out of those and I started doing writing for adult websites I had always written short stories for my own enjoyment before I ever got into anything at all. I’ve been writing short stories ever since I was a teenager and so I wrote a lot of the material for the earlier adios that I did before I mainly started doing one’s the clients submitted their work to me to narrate and so there was an owner of a phone sex company that was interested in posting some of my audio is on his his phone sex site from her clients that we’re waiting for collars and what not and so he said did you write these then I suggest and he said would you be interested in writing some blogs promoting my phone sex websites and I said of course I’ve never done it before but I’m willing to try so I’ve been writing for various phone sex websites for over 10 years on a weekly basis another operators as well because not all ladies enjoy the writing that they don’t have an aptitude for it and some companies actually will require the lady to submit a couple of written works a week because it helps a site with their search engine optimization Drive clients to the side against them higher up in the Google rankings and whatnot so they need somebody to write all this content and ladies that don’t like to write themselves will find somebody like me and I will write it for them then they pay me to do it so I do that in addition to the phone and the erotic audio said I do it’s so fascinating I just feel like we could be on Shark Tank or something right now or some other kind of really found your Niche and you it sounds like this is a calling for you and there’s so many layers of opportunity in ecosystem of feel like you are like pitching to Angel Investors and you’ve got a business plan you’ve got all these things kind of dialed in and and yeah just there should be a training program because it sounds like a dream life really isn’t it built the business unfortunately or fortunately for the veterans like me it has an extremely high turnover of women that we’ll try it some will only last a few hours some will last a few days so I’m a few weeks it’s not that common to find women that have been in it for the long haul like me and yet I know a couple of other ladies that have been doing it for 20 years 35 years have really been in the game from way before the internet even when it was just people working out of little Pocono call centers and whatnot I’ve always worked at home but when it started out before the internet people were working in these call centers I can’t even imagine doing a job like this then I call center it would be crazy but I know some of them have got this experience but a lot of girls that will try it they can’t deal with it they can’t deal with the needs and wants of some of these callers cuz they can be pretty unusual to have the kind waste so they will they’re just their socks off day they can’t do it so it has a very very high turnover of women that do it what do you think it takes to be one of the long-term success. I love to know what what you feel like Nikki. The power well I can only speak for myself I don’t know what motivates other people I think for the ones that really find out quickly that it fits in well with the lifestyle that they want to work from home have the flexibility of ours what have you they make it work and that was the boat that I’m in I never went to college I had never worked from the time I finish high school until I got into this I had only ever looked after my grandmother from the time I finish high school so when you’re here for a number of years you’ve never worked a day in your life your options are kind of limited on the flea and easy I certainly didn’t want to have to go back to school I hated school it just that was not what I wanted I mean who exactly is going to hire somebody that has zero experience you know what are your options McDonald’s or Wal-Mart really and I definitely we knew I did not want to do that so I told myself from day one failure was not an option that I had to make this work and I have made it work there certainly ladies that are a lot more successful profitable than I am but I get by I get by just fine and it just it fits perfectly so I knew that I had to make it work and it definitely helped that I do the audio is in the writing because that supplements my income there’s some lady said they only do calls there’s lots of them that don’t do any audio at all most certainly don’t do any writing so I’m very glad that I have those other things that I do and I do non-adult voice work as well not a lot the majority of the voice works that I do is adult in nature but I still have several companies that I do small jobs for for PBX phone systems where you know you’re doing Prince one for accounting press two for human resources guy do stuff like that as well as those I have several of these small little jobs of months I mean they’re just tiny little things but I always figured no matter how small the job is like that even if this company is only paying me $10 a month that’s $10 I otherwise would not have it all adds to the pot at the end of the month that’s how I look at it so yeah you know sometimes I’ll get 20 of reading some months from a company other time so only be a couple but they all out outfits how you have to look at it and you never know somebody that you’ve worked for they make it some kind of a lead for you of somebody else that wants somebody to do something like this and they’ll recommend you so there’s all kinds of different things by I love the voice over work I do the most boring job I ever had for voice-over was I had to take the series of audios on english-as-a-second-language oh my God that was just torture it really was a job get through it it was just the most boring tedious thing but I’m not there to be entertained I’m there to narrate their script I realized that I’m not there to have a great time so you just get through the work and and that’s it and I’m grateful for all these little voice over jobs that come my way adults or vanilla weather brings up a good point which is that anybody who has or whatever reason the occasion to even dabble in anything they don’t industry it’s going to give you a lot of life skills and negotiation skills communication skills business personal finance all kinds of even even legal sometimes contract writing and reading skills and so I looked that you’ve been able to Branch out and just sounds like you’re living the dream of the freelancer who’s actually been able to make it and then I never have to work for the man in a way that makes you feel like you’re stuck in a cubicle 95 or something him at school, she’s like you don’t know how lucky you’ve got it I wouldn’t say I’ve living the dream you know talking to guys and every day and night about their 2 inch penis as I don’t know where that would be considered living the dream but whenever it talking to the grates on my nerves and I can’t listen to one more of them complain about how they have a 2 inch penis or some other bizarre problem I have I just keep telling myself these people you know your bread and butter people that I’ve told the first thing that they will say is all you’re so lucky to be able to work from home that is one thing that everybody says one of the first things when I when I tell people that I do that they’re they’re jealous they want to be able to work from home and they can’t and some of them I got long commutes and I mean I love live theater I go to Toronto several times a year to go see shows and lots of times I’ll be sitting on the train I go on the commuter train in the morning and these poor people there like slave helicopter laptops own and everything doing their work on the way to work and sometimes they’ll tell me oh yeah I take the train for an hour there and an hour back or there was one way to deceive in 2 hours each way I thought what kind of life is that to be commuting one to two hours each way I wouldn’t do that for anyting you know my commutes for four feet from the bed to the chair her basically I just can’t imagine people having to commute like that in their whole lives are wrapped up in this is like dark when they leave the house dark by the time they get home that’s not a life for me so I’m very very grateful I can work at home awesome yeah well I actually had they said I’ve done been this work quite a number of hours myself and I said some of the best money I’ve ever made and you always get those repeat clients and they just kind of stuck in a loop of like a broken record of the fantasy and I just want to pump you full of the money like your pinball machine or something really interesting you bring up the point about that the man with small penises and you feel like you have developed weather maybe it’s inmates you or make you feel like you’ve been able to be in some sensor a priestess of spiritual healer something some way of therapists in the sense that you’re helping people move make some progress in their their fantasy lives there and their body image of king of size issues that you get that fine that the people can rely on you for some of that type of nutrient your healing energy when I was in school so this job has fulfilled a lot of fat but it’s funny that you say about Sin all the different pant suits I remember when I started I was so worried thinking how am I going to think of a difference little scenario to spend for these guys every single time they call Will it quickly became apparent that I’d say about 90% of collars when they call they basically want the same call over again and I thought so many times for it to be so much easier if you just recorded it and replayed it because it’s almost like to know the letter to be exact sense of what they want you to say they there’s very few that actually seek a lot of variety in their fantasies most of them want to go through the exact same fantasy every single time so it’s like you can do those calls with those types of collars practically on autopilot because you know exactly what they want once you’ve done it a few times you know you have the script basically in your head and it’s funny the way that some of them just want the same thing over and over and over and I’ve had some clients for the whole 11 years and there’s still the same way it’s like every time they call they want to talk about the exact same thing so it’s kind of amusing to me honestly that there that predictable write it that I’ve had the same experience and I suppose if it’s something that doesn’t seem really self abusive or harmful then I’ll go along with it and and humor them and everything but I can’t I send it that’s them in some direction of of transcendence of of something if it’s really troubling to them a really sort of negative in some sense that but she also can’t be judgmental right so so you can you without holding anybody specifically or any specific can use talk about some of the general patterns beyond the obligatory small penis calls and maybe even talking about that it’s like what are some of these patterns that you’ve observed over that many years of what what what what’s going on inside of the mind of you lose man you know we don’t know how much, babe what what percentage of the population they really really really represent you know if statistically but but it’s great to be great to hear from you sound like what some of the the patterns are people can relate the lives of others definitely patterns that emerge once you talk to some of these people and totally different guys that have nothing to do with one another and they basically have the same fantasies the small penis humiliation calls it that’s one of my most popular calls that I get I get more of those practically than any other type of call and the pattern does quickly present itself you know this poor guy Mother Nature has shortchanged him there’s nothing he can do no matter how much money he’s willing to spend no matter what kind of surgeries he’s willing to endear there’s not really much that he can do he’s got a small dick and he’s always going to have a small deck and it is so ingrained in their minds that women are going to reject them make fun of them mock them other men are going to belittle them that I swear if these men had their greatest prayer answered and they woke up the next day with an 8 inch penis they wouldn’t know what the hell to do with it because it is so part of their psyche that they are small and inadequate to please a woman they wouldn’t know what to do with it they really wouldn’t they would be very uncomfortable there’s been several of these guys that I’ve said well why don’t you just go to an escort and they’re not going to reject you as long as you’ve got money they’re not going to reject you and they get so uncomfortable when I said that that they will do everything but a dance to get away from you know me saying that so I tried not even bother saying it anymore because it’s just falling on deaf ears they don’t really want to go to any woman that is going to accept them because that is foreign that is uncomfortable and that is unfamiliar and they don’t want it and if they did go to some escort that would take them no matter how small their dick is they would be probably as limp as a dish Rag and not able to do anything because they’re on foreign territory they’re only used two women laughing at them in or telling their girlfriends and making fun of them it’s it’s so so part of their nature now, but that’s all they’ve known their whole lives they don’t want anybody to accept them and and I said especially with a guy that’s just slightly undersized if he says I’m 5 in the North American average erect so I’m like well as small but it’s workable it’s not worth rejecting somebody over and they they don’t want to hear this they do not want to hear acceptance on any level they’re like oh no know if it’s under a tin they’re to be reasoned with they just want to be mocked and made fun of but that pattern very quickly comes out especially with those ones that group more than any other there’s there’s definite patterns guys into spanking fetishes were usually caught by mom masturbating and spank him with the punishment and even though mom may have been dead for the last 30 years they’re still beating off thinking of getting you know spanked when they were a kid for getting caught that pattern quickly came out to that that one’s very predictable if a guy has a spanking fetish the chances are he was spanked as punishment well yeah this is I would have to I would have to be honest and say I’m not a trained psychotherapist your psychoanalyst or anything but are you acting sad devil is an armchair philosopher at least of all things psychological and I think a lot of people into it the the earliest erotic experiences 10 to do the most hard wiring for the rest of your life and it’s very very interesting to see what that serve cocktail of experiences and things going on internally the chemistry and and how that sort of gels into something that creates that that template that people get stuck with running so they have you had the experience of actually seeing anyone find any well even anyone that has a desire to say hey I’ve got this recurring fantasy that I can’t break free of but I want to and can you help me kind of work through some material and gets to the point of sending me some people might say freedom from it or just having some something to even compare it to cuz if that’s all they know then they don’t even know the outside of that that Fishbowl could be my friend there was one color that comes to mind when you say that if somebody to have a fetish that they really did want to break free from he had actually gone to a psychiatrist he was so upset by it and he wanted to stop it but he couldn’t and the topic that I absolutely hate and I hate when guys ever call I usually just tell him to call somebody else he was an adult baby and these guys put diapers on and they they wet their pants and and go to the bathroom in the midst of disgusting and this guy was so upset that he enjoyed doing this he said I come home after work I put on my diaper I sit on the floor and I know I rub my cock and then I go to the bathroom in my diaper oh my God it’s just disgusting so he he was he was crying on the phone he was sober Afton upset about this and he’s like I’ve actually gone to a psychiatrist because I just don’t know what to do to stop and he’s like well the psychiatrist told me I’m not hurting anybody yes it may be kind of icky but at the end of the day I’m not hurting anybody nobody knows about it it’s not affecting anybody’s life so I’m just probably going to have to live with this attraction to this fetish and carry it out it will and I thought well the psychiatrist is right he’s not hurting anybody but it is pretty gross but I guess there’s worse things that people could be doing but I really don’t enjoy collars that wants to talk about God cuz I I have a strong X Factor about that topic but there’s people doing all kinds of weird and believe me you really don’t want to know what your coworkers are friends or neighbors or anybody is doing behind closed doors they tell me what they do behind closed doors and I’m horrified it at a lot of the stuff they tell me and nobody in their life knows about it they keep it a secret and I just get it’s amazing how they unload all this stuff and I can understand they can’t tell their wives because she kicked them out they can’t tell their friends because they would never be looked at the same so they and they wouldn’t have the nerve to tell a psychiatrist you know looking face-to-face with them these things so they find girls like me to share these desires with that they can’t tell anybody else and in a way to great honor that they are literally telling me their deepest darkest thoughts especially when there a personal client where I take their credit card information and I know their real name I know their address I know I know all this personal information so it’s even more flattering that they’re entrusting me with this deeply personal information and giving me all this trust you know what some company where they call and they can say their name is John Smith and you have no idea who they really are that is as Anonymous As It Gets I have no way of knowing when they’re calling a company like that but when it’s a direct dial type of call like I have on my own line and a couple of other lines that I work at you do have their real information and I always think you know you’re lucky I’m an honest person if you ever got some lady that decided to go Rogue and blackmail you you could be in for a whole lot of embarrassment at some of the things that they tell you but that one with the adult baby fetish he definitely really wanted to stop that but he just for whatever reason wasn’t able to stop but he just was addicted to it and some guys are addicted that is the word I would use to some of their fetishes and they know that it’s not healthy they know that is not say some of the activities that they’re engaging in and it’s like a drug they just can’t stop themselves when I think some of these guys are telling me the Craigslist personals was closed down a few years ago it was like the end of the world for a lot of the faithful to call me believe me because it was such a huge part of their sex life they would be going on these personal than having random sex with strangers and some guys say oh yeah I met this guy on the Craigslist personals and I met him in the back of his van and Home Depot parking lot good way to meet a serial killer the risks that some of these people are taking to satisfy their sexual desires if it’s honestly quite horrifying sometimes yeah I’m with you on that I would say one of the one of the creepiest scenario that I have to encounter so far in my career doing phone sex on the side is that this thing I didn’t even know it existed but he had the kind of invite me to it he had to basically prep me and you kind of give me the script ahead of time a verbally so that I would know what scenario he wanted to be kind of dropped into and in and it was the whole bug chasing thing of you heard of that already dealt with it and I mustn’t there with you on this Theodore baby thing I just want to get to 314 because Freud was all about that sexuality is actually anyting in the body that could be described as pleasurable in that begins with weather in anal repulsive or whatever that is so people just get attached to maybe don’t grow up acceptors all theories to about your whole personality being shaped by how long you’re bursting experience was whether he was a C-section or whether there was fecal matter that you were exposed to the process of blood that can determine so many things is really shaping everything that is there’s a it’s quite a bit by bit material but I honestly think that the way you’re describing is it’s like the entire Orthodox world of academic psychology and sociology if if they’re not getting PhD in this field basically studying what you’re talkin about then they have no clue because like you’re saying most people do not talk about this stuff in any other don’t then with their trusted phone sex are they all squeaky clean but I really liked on the niteflirt I remember once on the nightfort website they had kind of like a an intro little animated video clip and it’s just the kind of promote obviously the platform and kind of explain how it works what not but there was like an intro beginning to it where it showed a bus stop like a cartoon bus stop I’m just a couple of random dudes and whoever and MMA put out thought Bubbles and it was a little cartoon characters of the fantasy that they’re all thinking of separately at the bus stop and it was like all the quintessential Kink BDSM archetypes in leather and you know bondage and whatever else but it’s just like the idea that is really what’s going on if you see if we’re honest you know you could be in any crowding and everybody sort of having these thoughts for them yeah do you think that I guess you I’m curious how you would describe the sort of spectrum of you seems to be people who some people would say they don’t have anything other than vanilla you know really team like missionary romantic style pharmacies in made in that could be totally true but then there’s a whole group of people who are may be in denial or they’re fighting to suppress more homosexual or more violent or just whatever types of Tennessee’s and they may never experience it or talk about it or even like play with it much in their Fantasy Life interest people who are open and out and experiencing it in the Kink community and then there’s people who seem to be kind of release Kirsten stuck in their own world where their stuff is just running their lives and they can’t they don’t have really a healthy weight it to express that I’m just wondering if you were to just have to take a guess at the general population would save America are like helps what what ratio do you think if there is a people in different you can kind of take it however you like this what would be your if you were the Surgeon General of America and you had to be issued a report talking about the state of American fetishism and she is it we’re looking at him or you say well I don’t know about exact percentages and obviously it would be different for ladies than it is for men I do occasionally get a lady, but I get so few I can’t generalize with them as much as I can with the men because of the sheer lack of volume of women for me that I talk to but for men I would say I would say well over 70% have some kind of a you know a real king I do get ones that are just vanilla and they only want the most basic you know sex oral just very very vanilla and that’s fine I’m happy they’re very easy there’s nothing growth and talking to those guys but there’s ones that are so far off the map and I do not even cater to the more extreme ones I if if somebody’s wanting to talk about something really bad and I just don’t do it and tell him to find somebody else but some there’s definitely a lot that have a kink there is there really is and they just they can’t share it with anybody so over 70% of got some weird little fantasy and that I guess weirdness is subjective isn’t it I hear so much weirdness that may be what I would consider practically normal somebody that the civilian not in the adult industry would think oh my God that’s so weird I like her own doesn’t seem weird so I think we’re nothing normalness is all very subjective you can’t really say well the percentage of weird this percentage is kinky but there’s so many it it really surprises me how many guys that call that want to be with another guy that’s one of the top fantasy Sig I have the guys have as well as they want to talk or you don’t have a guy fuck something I’m I was shocked at that when I first started in the business that it was that widespread I mean it’s a very high percentage of collars and it’s also very high percentage of callers that are wearing ladies underwear and I never expected that I had no idea there were so many men that were wearing ladies panties under their clothes it seems pretty high from the number of guys to tell me that so those two things really stand out that are way more common than people would think yeah it’s it’s so it’s so sad in its to me and said that it’s the culture of the dominant culture so repressive it’s not just allowed to to be in body in your feminine aspect you’re coming inside in a more outspoken Republic Manor in and stole that idea that you have to hide it under your clothes and you can’t just be like hey we got Casual Friday what’s up family and Tuesday and see all kinds of measurable issues in society but you know it’s also makes me think about how the whole notion of the private citizen right to privacy and then the public officers and officials in in politicians and whatnot it’s expected that that well within reason everything that they’re all of their interest all of their past all of anything that can be dug up about their life history is fair game to scrutinize and I don’t know maybe and certainly in in more queer friendly districts like West Hollywood or the Castro I’m sure that it’s actually a selling point to your dear constituents to be a letter or something but for most of the rest of the country you would not be elected or you will be impeached her or else it is or whatever asked to resign if it were to come out that any of that any of the things you described in in in or just anything that would be considered an aberration from that vanilla whatever you would see anything beyond that would get you in deep trouble socially and politically and yet all those people who have that power they’re the ones going to the Doms and even some of the most twisted like yeah if people had any idea who exactly people would be surprised who was calling there was a chief of police that used to call me and I thought if your chief of police would you not buy a Visa gift card and just tell me your name is John Smith rather than give me your real name and your real credit card. That was the first thought in my head and he actually send me a picture of himself for his uniform and I thought are you insane do you realize the amount of embarrassment if I went rogue that I could cause you your whole Precinct to be laughing your ass off that one is one of the top ones that sticks in my mind thinking why would you be broadcasting and all I never would have known that you were you sending me pictures of yourself and you before that one really I thought was amazing it was another guy that was a district attorney in a major city and he was telling me this and I thought wow I could really cause you embarrassment if I wasn’t a trustworthy honest person and yet they’re telling you they’re real David at all this information I got all my God this is just wild it really was and there was even this very low-level celebrity oh my God I never heard of this guy but I looked up his name and I quickly found its website and mainly does direct-to-video stuff that most people wouldn’t know who it is anyway and what he wanted to talk about was so horrific that I wouldn’t do it and I don’t have a lot of limits are a lot of taboos but I have some and he was Way Beyond my limits and I thought wow buddy if your fans ever had any idea what you were into you know that they’d be with torches on your lawn I was so horrified at what this guy wanted to talk about and I thought in this is a celebrity and even though I had never heard of him somebody that had co-starred in a movie with him I certainly did know who it was cuz I watch her on a spa for all the time and I thought wow I’m sure she has no idea what her co-star is into and it just these these people to have any kind of level of being well-known and either their field of work or their Community you would think that protecting their anonymity would be of utmost importance but they really don’t seem to care so it says It’s amazing so I don’t follow Sports in anyway and he told me that he was he was wanting racial humiliation he was a black guy and I get a fair number of racial humiliation calls as well that’s one way specials it’s and he had found my website and saw that I offered this in and so he was telling me all about this so you know it was a small table wasn’t anything spectacular but I just thought wow you know if somebody follows Sports they would probably heard of this guy and here he’s calling and paying me good money to call him one racial slur after another it just says listen to me I can actually it really is so they aren’t worried about their identities or anything well yeah they make this public service announcement this is now the 21st century and there’s something called cryptocurrency and there’s ways to use VMware Anonymous step handrails and also to encrypt messages and I’m at the point now where I’m kind of going off of the Rails a bit branching out from the the platforms that take a huge cut of your earnings to provide that sort of thing at least that degree of separation with your identity and you’re just letting me within the last I’d say year 2 years has the encryption encrypted messaging app ecosystem really matured and made them user-friendly now is user-friendly enough and intuitive enough for people used on a mass scale and the Snowden Revelations have helped to accelerate the mass adoption and the development development impetus for peer-to-peer in Crypt open source technology platforms that are accessible by apps on a smartphone and then also now there’s so many different ways to do cryptocurrencies and now a stablecoin cryptocurrencies where you don’t expose people to the volatility of price fluctuation that’s a mouthful but I’m wondering if you have are you it’s apps to Tabitha like you say there’s a lot of risk and even if you did your best to not reach or allowed to be reached any of that data that you have some level of responsibility over as you conduct your business to know it’s an interesting opportunity now to to Really Leverage The Power of encrypted promises encrypting free speech of of words and of money that smell possible for people still just curious if you looked into any of that I know it’s kind of where I’m blinded I don’t even own the self to keep private insecure Issa does not use anything with high-tech and then you’ll be fine by myself I have my laptop and my corded landline so sore throat is this a cell phone because I don’t leave home that often so if I’m at the dentist or the hardware store for an hour or two I think I can afford to be out of touch with anybody for that short of a Time if it’s that important it can wait till I get back home and I’ll be able to talk to him then but I would never be doing calls out and about and I know some girls do I’ve read posts of girls doing in the aisles at Walmart and the grocery store it and I think how could you do that but hey if that’s how they want to run things that’s their business but I would not do that I wish I would not want to be doing that I was outside of my home and possibly have somebody over here me and you never know how long a collar is going to beat you. Weather is going to be 3 minutes or 3 hours you have no idea so it’s just not practical to me I would not do that so if somebody calls me I am on a corded landline in my house that’s the only place I’m ever going to be when they call but yeah all that Tech stuff is so it’s sort of a Escapes Me well if you ever have clients that want to you know I want to have you if you feel like a doll just put it out there to you I can be your your text liaison in a department is trying to be at least at least on the curb if not ahead of the curve but but certainly not is as up to speed as I can because yeah there’s a kind of feel like there’s a lot of a lot of people who are younger who mistakes with thumb how there really not having a good sense of host of keeping their identity and they’re just people are very frivolous about how much personal information they share in on internet was called it back POF plenty of wisdom and actually on that note not to go too far into the dark side but have you had any I’m sure you had some but you know what what what advice would you give note having the level experience you have about about real creepers or did you know that my make you feel let me before you have a chance with this type of mop cut them up or hang up on them if they were to get threatening or to just get weirder abusive or anything like you have any I don’t want to get all Sensational with horror stories but maybe more practical in a sense of Life what do you have a saltwater bath ready to jump into if you feel creeped out or do you have some sort of self-care and what’s the deal with the shift whether it’s creepy or not what’s a very lucky that I don’t really attract clients like that different girls attract different types of collars very much so it’s like Baskin-Robbins there’s a different flavor for everybody and I have never even come close to having any color that was stalkerish or interested in you don’t meeting or anyting I’m a very honest open direct person probably much more so would be good for I am so direct with clients if they ask me something and I’ll tell them the truth usually and other girls are more like they are there Persona they are never going to break that fourth wall to them and is a role they will never admit you know this isn’t them or whatever it says I’m just not like that and a lot of guys like that sense of reality others as sort of a bubble and they will never call you again because you’re too much reality they’re not looking for that they’re looking for Fantasy so I have never ever ever had anything remotely like that and yet I know some girls have had real problems with that very serious ones I mean the horse everyone’s and I think well maybe it’s because they’re playing this role and they’re insisting that they really are this character and it’s just all too real to the guy and I’m like oh you know that’s that’s not how it is consider more of a flooded reality so I don’t have that problem with my clients at all I’m glad to hear that that’s that’s music to my ears what would you say knowing the girls who have had that experience of living able to shake them off or what are some Clyde I honestly don’t know because they’re just running their business totally different than I am so unless they decided to move to my business model they’re going to keep having this problem I mean some of these girls will say oh I’ve got this whole back story that my character lives in such and such a place and she’s such and such an age and you know she went to this school and and she did this and that and I’m like really you go to all this trouble I might I’m just me if a guy calls I’m just me I’m not putting on any stories I say I live in Ontario Canada which is true I don’t tell them the town that I live in cuz they don’t really need to know that but I’m not making up some story about what I did or what I didn’t that that’s just not me it’s just not and yet there’s a lot of girls that they write this whole back story this like a totally separate character and if that’s how they want to do it that’s fine and I know a lot of them do that’s what they feel comfortable with they don’t want to give any real information that’s fine and I don’t give much to the ones that I do but I’m just me no matter what guy calls them if a guy says I won’t Lobby been in a gangbang recently haven’t you wanted to be not going to get what he wants because I’m too based in reality like I said some guys like that some guys don’t you want to talk about any anything you want to close with would be great or just call it a good a good first episode look forward to connecting my phone sex site is erotic Talk phone sex. Com and my erotic audio site if you want to order a custom audio is erotic audio recordings. Com some people can easily be able to contact me there if they’re interested in setting up a call well if the button says available love usually available if it says that I usually remember to set that right you can just call the number if you wanted to do a call and if you wanted to order an audio guys will email me usually with their script to get an estimate which I can do from the word count I can give them a very close estimate as to how long it will be in the price and then we go from there all right I love that will custom audio clips Galore sounds like you you’re really got this workout and it sounds like you graduated from the dependence and Reliance on 3rd party platforms and you’ve got it all sorted in house is that right on your website or how does that are you part of a network or is it all kind of have my own sci-fi I am available on many many sites that I do calls on but I only I only promote my own site because it is of or benefit to me easily if a guy comes to my own site so even though the price a guy May pay would be the same say $2 a minute which is pretty standard if he calls me through some site I might only be getting a third of that if he calls my sight I’m getting ate almost every penny of that so where do you think I’m going to direct people of course I’m I don’t even tell them what Play Time on or what names I go by or anything I only ever tell them Sheeran on a rush and that is the only place that you will find Sharon Sharon all right all right are you ready to go find her on the on that website and appreciate you again it’s been a time to be on the shoulder and a lot and look forward to next time I see you again so much and thank you so much for having me www.sprint.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition assassini and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple viper bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email ben.com namaste

Decolonizing Love and Sex with Dr. Zelaika Hepworth Clarke TPP216

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In this episode I’m joined again by one of my favorite scholars for a deep and intense exploration of oppression and decolonization in the realms of love and sex.

She shares her theory of the “Z-spot” which is all about the multi-dimensional nature of female arousal beyond physical stimulation of anatomical spots.

We commiserate on the state of patriarchal dominance of sexual home economics and brainstorm on future pathways towards sexual utopias that are inclusive of all genders, sexualities, ethnicities, while preserving and honoring diversity, legacies of privilege and trauma, and much more.

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Lose Your False Mind, Find Your True Self & Learn to Feel Good Inside with Craig Lewis TPP214

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In this episode I’m joined again by long time friend and brother from the heart of the d-i-y punk scene Craig Lewis for a update on his adventures in travel, personal growth, recovery, mental health justice, spirituality, sexuality, and much more.

There are many profound spiritual truths and gems of sacred wisdom shared. I’m always deeply reaffirmed that our shared deep roots in the ethics and spirit of resistance from the punk rock movement have kept us motivated to fight the good fight and love the good love.  It’s invigorating to catch up with Craig and compare notes as we push ourselves ever forward towards our own evolving definitions of what it means to be spiritual warriors.

About Craig:

Craig Lewis is a rebel and he chooses to live his life built on a foundation of gratitude, peace, love, kindness, spirituality, accountability, honor, forgiveness and acceptance. He is currently living in a mountain in Mexico, seeking truth, healing and connection. Without question, Craig continues to rise ever higher on his mission to be the living proof to all, that surviving the impossible, is entirely possible.

Craig recently published his book ‘Better Days’ in Finnish, Dutch, Spanish, Tagalog and Thai, with several new translations on the way including Kiswahili and Italian.  Find out about his many books, posters and more here: Sanityisafulltimejob.org (under construction) and also via email.

Craig actively trains mental health workers, educators, people in recovery (and all interested people) throughout the world and is excited about benefiting your organizations and the lives of all via his experience, wisdom and fearlessness. 

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello David Lebovitz welcome to Township on podcast episode number 214 will be getting some major updates from our international Man of Mystery been on the show a few times before Craig Lewis you said old friends are going back many years in the anarcho-punks seen in the more radical conscious seen and he is standing in the world of pure support and mental health and really growing and transcending beyond the the system’s way of administering public policy around mental health and really taking the power back and using a DIY Spirit to do so and last time or what we’ve been since we’ve talked last I know a lot of Adventures have unfolded and and a lot of Mystique and a lot of intrigue so with all that said Craig take it away. What’s been going on with new oh my god brother it’s been I think the last time we spoke was in February to do to do a proper the discussion like this was in February of last year so it’s like I don’t know if 15 months are 16 months ago if I’m not mistaken yeah so yeah man yeah it’s been one heck of a crazy wild ride and I now live in a mountain I am in the south of Mexico and I am in a place it’s a bit hard to get you unless you have any intention to go there you make a plan and I have an apartment I got a place to live that’s affordable and I have a terrorist live off the plants and the mountains all around and hunting birds and cats that visit and live with me I don’t think the language and I’m learning and I’m just for the first time for lots of reasons this finding some sort of I don’t know how to describe it some sort of acceptance of the rationality of everything and finally some sodas thanks and all of it to be able to be in the moment and take that and transform into whatever this I dream about and end desire in a nutshell that’s where I’m at this is awesome and you sound better than ever and I know you’ve been through so much some intense inner struggles and external struggles and now to be at that place of peace and sounds like relative kind of resolution to to be posted up somewhere and then I actually have this is something I’m really fascinated in which is the economics of being a traveler in the in the modern age in the sort of how you can are you figuring out ways to economize with your resources and find ways to make your money last longer by being posting up on your travels places where you can just kind of make it stretch and last longer when can you get into some of the economics of that of that way of life cuz it’s very fascinating to me I’d love to do more traveling myself oh yeah I will check this out, man it’s a freaking disaster III what economics are we speaking of like it’s funny I landed here with a backpack okay I I had a little bit of money to just place to get a house and I’ve been like it’s been a very challenging experience to find some sort of sense of any sort of like this world episodes like some sort of solid foundation on a music and this whole crazy like a year-and-a-half will plus I like all over the world husband Ace Financial how do I describe it I don’t have like a mighty long time ago this is been like I don’t want to I do want to break up Bon Jovi cuz this is been like what we would that when they would sing in 1986 this is what they called living on his neck no other way to describe it because that’s exactly what I know to be true but so this is all crazy like how do you live how do you survive how do they make this happen I don’t think I had a choice and I think the only way I was going to heal and I get to the next place in my life to get to the next place to get to the next place what’s the not know what the heck I was doing and just trust that I did letting you know you know me I give like the roundabout Circle answer that’s like the opposite of the answer you’re seeking or the or the S you would expect or anticipate the question but that’s what you get for me so that’s my answer brother what actually did I half expected something like that where it was more I can see the strategy and being uncertainty Jake and the spontaneity of going where the wind blows you know and in following just moment-to-moment that’s that’s the dream I mean that’s the most Freedom you could ever have is to not be bound to even your own plans of your own expectations of anything in and just really trust a if I’m blessed then I’ll get fed and in Shelter tonight and if I’m not then I’ll have to wonder why with the empty stomach on the cold side park somewhere a man and I don’t like that empty stomach and I also want to just briefly go back a second before I go forward the moment I said that the answer that you were expecting I knew that was the incorrect thing to say and I immediately followed by saying the opposite because I knew that you’re not expecting that it’s like this like comfortable thing that we do when we’re communicating we make use of something that we put into the conversation but actually that’s bullshit you are understanding me more than most people would so thank you yeah crazy life man this whole reality is just you can live and people will see your heart and don’t understand that the language or how you look or you come from or any of these things they don’t matter what matters is that you can communicate from what is truly what they knew in your heart that they will see that and they will accept that and that’ll bring you the protection on the help and the loves and that everything that you need for real I love a man yeah that does that leaves Faith conduct actually reminds me something funny why I say this with all due respect cuz this fellow is one of my dear friends and we’ve sent drifted apart but but we used to be tight Bros and it was funny in a way because he came from a way more stable family and had he works really hard to be an overachiever and I watched him work harder than anybody so I don’t say that he was like a born with a silver spoon in his mouth or whatever he wasn’t he was privileged but he also was pushed to to Really develop himself but she did all the extracurricular activities and did the honours and did all this crazy prep work and and and built himself up so that he could be ivy league material to go to college and then he’d end up finding a program at a state college or State University that that he was happy with and we know I’m happy with location happy with the programming cetera and I me I dropped out literally in sixth grade was in and out of rehab and got maybe another couple of former formal semesters of high school and then dropped out again after that and then I a couple years later I got a GED and then we both end up starting at the same State University together at the same the same time and I had that been the complete antithesis of the discipline and academic rigor that he put in and we both started the same place even though we had to come about it until we different ways but I also was getting straight A’s and was dedicated so I think this is just you know that all that is to say there’s people who are rich and unhappy and don’t know what to do themselves and they’re throwing all kinds of money away and all kinds of drugs and experiences and you’re going at this is international expiration with you’re surrendering to a to the Divine forces that are guiding your your your destiny and that and I’m always impressed I’m always jealous Pac-Man you ear like living it up with the fuck all you got to do and I’m going out there listening who wants to know how to how to do it on doing are you going to do like why am I crazy like I thought I thought I had and this is the opposite of what I however I should I should restate that live your dreams like to be free to live their dreams you have to have like the Living Like Blood Parts select thing beating out of you and you have to take it and learn how to take it standing up and then smile and how does a gold medal physical and emotional heart function but for some reason on Earth why don’t you just finish it down was it yesterday in the morning and you say because I want to know of a solution and all you got is like you and Siri are you going to still that hard up with something of beauty they’re going to just like let it become like like Houston broken and like crap the pieces like a kisses ceramic that shatters and so many ways that you can’t apply the consumer D art form to like naked better to make it more gorgeous from before I don’t want to let it get to that man in so I didn’t it shows different that’s all you can do right on Manuel what does I think that’s a good sort of just catching up with bed and instead of setting the tone butt so tell me what what have you what are some of the the you’ve been through some nightmare scenarios give us some adventurous kind of thrilling updates on the record and say cuz we are because I don’t say it just lost my mind National way for me or anyone in a kind of situations that I found myself in such as being normal and that’s remember I did it start out normal normal I need to really not know what with all those pills in the nozzle Octonauts and not normal shit was it normal that had that brain injury was it normal that everything went crazy wasn’t normal so here I am like at the base of my life or the beginning of my new life not normal and so like I’m just so freaking proud of myself then I’m alive in Christ figure it out somehow that it was okay to be fucked up in the eyes of others that it was okay to like cars had your relationships and your familial connections and your volume note to Garrison in old friends and colleagues at all if that is okay. Burnt to the ground that it doesn’t actually matter I took to stick around that that and I can’t believe you this is just a process like a moment to moment. This is hard to do the Okemos but I decided to be okay with it cuz I like the sound of that word okayness like okay I want to see I don’t want this palatable how to build in my life just want to go to handle something because well it’s not great but thanks for that you know that okayness and dust you choose to be so all this shit this happened man I can admit that I know that some of it looks real wild and it looks one way and it could be another we live in a reality where we look at the freaking news in the United States obviously something is wrong in society is this also confused and 504 West so you know what I got it I got to stay right there you you have just stumbled upon a masterful mine hack and I am seeing from the outside Dimension as you’re saying but basically what you just described is that we live and we live in this world where the ships hitting the fan and there’s a lack of people feeling a sense of okay now and I really feel like we need to become more comfortable with with all week and we need to deal with our shit so we can feel the Okemos if you catch my drift I catch your drift Iko something’s been plaguing me on the inside because through the process I got it I want to admit it putting you and everyone in that everyone if you are not including everyone that’s a funny thing you know why cuz I respect the heck out of you and I’ve been like it’s been such a long exhausting journey of knowing you that for me is included me being embarrassed and people mixed with you who I just noticed this man was like surviving so much better than me and I keep coming this beautiful human being that I only dreamed like 3 years ago or whatever we got to reconnecting and I am pathetic and somehow believe I have you feel like we’re on the same level of me I mean I have nothing but but like respect for you by Prince you’ve accomplished so much and you’ve accomplished things that I am still still dreaming about accomplishing so it’s it’s a mutual you know Mutual sensitive of respect and admiration man it’s always so it’s the way it should be mad it’s like to skateboard is trying to learn learn new tricks together you know thank you man and thank you and the reason why I came I was about to say what I’m about to say this because the process of the journey this is bent for me is not just included me it’s included lots of other people sung by choice and then probably just a son who just ended up in the crossfire of my life because of other reasons that they may may may not have been aware of or been aware of their participation and and and it’s not okay to not swear on the show oh my God they say it’s because because I hurt all the time give a presentation on anyways and so that’s kind of what kind of what works for me man and his wife said that like cuz I look up to you as somebody who has just like refining for himself and it’s showing the whole world like this is what it looks like to be in a process of yourself and be better with better and better and better I was like my God I could never be anywhere near the degree of what are some sleep when you go through the process of becoming you when you’re like burns down and you don’t know what to do in the fall Society is his his his either confused with you you’re a huge mistake the doctor that’s a Schism you just get into situations that could be desperate and you might not know that you’re desperately might not know you getting into you might not know it’s going to happen next cuz how could you and then you get into this situation where you get into things with people with money and then Todd relationship stuff cuz I was like a weird dude already have to learn how to be like in today and all this crazy shit that I don’t know about your kid and like you’re always conduct yourself in the way that you wish and I wish you felt embarrassed that like this like how did you get here like one of these crazy stories amazing stories that I want to share with you a few but it wouldn’t be fair to me to the universe who knows me and watches this happen at the end of my reality who was the recipient or have experienced just knowing somebody in whatever way when they go into the burning down with your going through the process of Awakening that’s an ugly and painful and frankly does a lot of people who got caught up in that and I would every day with the with trying to like become more pure knowing how screwed up things worth time and knowing that your casualties to getting to a better place and that’s just a preface if you will to talk and but all the good cuz frankly like recently somebody had posted something online in response to something I’d written and they said they dude guy Craig I was like yeah really you ask cuz this wasn’t for me I’m in the process of doing fasting from social media and the more I take a step back from it the less I want to return back into that that mine state and f deleted some accounts I’ve just taken some apps off my phone Note sometimes I bring them back or not but I know a lot of the frenzy that you would get sucked into with trolling and drama online at school it’s Way Beyond normal human capacity to have any level of that kind of interaction and so I think everybody got everybody’s got taken for a ride and I think there’s only a few people who who. So I just burnt out but but really Purge that that toxic soup of emotions that comes from being in that frenzy and actually has the wherewithal to create distance so I’m wondering I mean you wrote the book on on peer supported mental health and now it seems like you’re going to have to write a book all about how to either navigate or avoid or moderate social media right wow the funny thing is that a you’re right about the social-media thing dude I want to write letters I think I love the fact that we can communicate and all this shit then it is just destructive Beyond any any you or you do understand cuz we’re taking the brakes and destructive Beyond any capacity that I have to use to find a better word with my. If I may say so Larry man like I totally feel that makes think about it it’s not constructive most the time when you’re not dealing with people who have skin in the game to a point where they feel like they’re they have to be accountable to not overdo insults and overdue criticisms it’s like if you were a tribe living together and you knew everybody everybody knew each other since birth and everybody was mutually interdependent for survival then you would have restraint when it comes to the extent of abuse that you would tolerate that you were perpetuate but when you’re totally disconnected then you have no skin in the game for survival with you with a group of people it is literally the most unconstructive way to process emotions information actual important social issues and Community issues that come up so please man yeah go out let’s just open that can of worms and laments profusely about that I think people need to get some that shaking out of that Paradigm will be well I think it’s constructive thing to do with all this beat it because there’s so many to choose from in my in my soda. I was thinking about that you asked me to write a book about social media like crazy out-of-control the truth is always some truth behind what’s going on that’s funny or not funny or not is that this really happens I like a guy ask you know if I hear you perfect out of control destructive I wish you could see right now and if you like like lights flashing I’m actually having my hands in the air like I am the king of the awful idle control crazy person public meltdown we shouldn’t be who I am today if I celebrate that ships the best baby should be a book or went to learn how to not do what I did cuz maybe my way is not the right way for everyone but the reality also is the Crux of all that is that the freaking internet and that social media chaos that I was unprepared for is it crazy person adult trying to find his way that was destructive they probably not just for me probably thousands of people or more out there who taught Derek distances that collapsed because they didn’t know how to manage cuz how could you learn if you didn’t know how yeah that is so Insidious it just creeps up and with so many things now I mean that it’s it’s cliche to talk about how the dystopian sci-fi of the 1980s which was what really Prime me for being prepared to deal with this time and being a warrior in this time and it digital Warrior and I still despite that training of of being skeptical of corporate fascist media Empires and what not I I live drink of plenty of their Kool-Aid and now I’m really thinking about how much I’ve leaked about my interests my desires that people who have wanted to be involved with romantically and the processes of all that stuff is basically being molested by those social media Giants and and I’m glad that I did not take it to the extreme to let people do which is actually like a lot of negativity and a lot of drama and a lot of accusations and yeah I feel like there’s a state of grace that is refusing to to participate in that in that should have been punk rock an Arco pump DIY 101 I mean we were always rebelling against the mainstream and back then it was the mainstream media and it was the one directional media of of the power elite news organizations and there was ziens and I like the way that social networks online could be decentralised but there was it there was actually an addict his backbone to that where it was people who were peer-to-peer building forums and building networks in chat rooms that were they weren’t being puppeteered by these these forces that are really there to serve the state ultimately to Amy so ever you want to talk about just let us bring this back to it to who we really are a man as like as anarcho-punks who were trained to think critically about technology and about corporate Fascism and the mainstream and then watching and watching ourselves get sucked into it watching other people get seduced and sucked into it and like how do we resist how do we repeal and fucking in Break Free then yeah yeah I respect you all Whenever there were born okay and basically what this comes down to is the difference between a fanzine and a Zine so we grew up grew up in this like reality where your existence fish eat that text that need within your soul and your spirit your heart to have an understanding to connect with the world in a way that brought you the feeling of like you belong that you were part of something that mattered that was what we call fancy right if you want to like try to give a little bit of a I don’t have described it with the word is a metaphor I don’t know when there’s also looks like her internet and then I just went over that and then it’s not meant to or with your is a 2018 something like that it is the difference cuz in the context of social media excetera that. That’s a defined difference between when you are living in an era an era where you haven’t desperation that is coming from this blooming devastating oppression that I have a sense about cuz we know as opposed to living in an era in a society where you yourself are being basically programs and I’m not trying to talk about some sort of like cuz we don’t we can’t see it happening is happening in Plainview people to be trained to be a certain way so that’s why you were programmed to almost beat our own enemy and what we were going up with back in the day and I’m just going to help my do by David Guetta in the late 1980s I’m not going to beat around the bush here about that it was different we tried to communicate and understand and learn and educate and Shear in very different ways that did teach us a way to be in the world that I’m certain you will agree allowed us now we have success as I’d like free people quote the same doing and be because we’ve learned in in times in through methods that were popular then and almost unheard-of now up the punx to that brother yeah man it’s funny cuz this whole thing about fake news it’s like back in my day was all fake news what he’s talking about like you wouldn’t trust any new source anyway and there it is just as weird commingling now everybody being sucked into the Demi celebrity trip to of of the the platforms that make you yawn I’m I’m kind of in recovery from from drinking the Kool-Aid to man sex you want to keep up with it that we were ejected all that and anyway I don’t want to get hung up on that on that topic but I know that a lot of the suffering that you have disclosed to me privately comes from just being Dogpile on the internet you know yeah it’s because I started get rid of all those people where they got rid of me or with mutual or it wasn’t but either way it happens does it is disconnected people don’t make you feel good and just I just it’s Ash and it that have to happen if I feel personal about anything I ever did cuz I did was like face reality here but not always been an easy field person and that I had to use I have to push people away because of my own craziness and Highway but nonetheless coming to bite my tongue well yeah sounds like you have a healthy sense of taking responsibility for things as one thing I love talking about is if there’s no there’s no bifurcation really in your personality you know you are who you are and you don’t the candy coat that very often sounds like for people to get in love it or leave it for one moment I want to make a statement here at that you’ll agree it’s okay I’m completely I’m completely nuts and I’m definitely if you can put this in quotes but I mean I propose cuz it’s I think it’s a great courses true and in quotes right here I’m good crazy I think for the first time in my life like yeah so what I know this is a bit crazy like I can look so what about yesterday right now and tomorrow and the next day I could just make more good crazy happen I’m so sick and tired of that crazy and I could learn to hold burning down of everything so I could get rid of that bad crazy what do I do whatever I have to do including and a much to the weather for next to the disdain for the right word but it’s good enough I come from it with truth which makes it pretty hard core but also I’m doing it because I don’t want to have it be an issue anymore so that’s craziness go out of control on the internet and then have a V8 if you will occur Abernethy Bridge with some that is very necessary if you need to heal then so be it but I’m also purifying so deep deep traumatic abuse that I experienced and if I’m not going to have a really group of participants or people in my life is one of his old stuff it’s still going to come out and I sure as heck ain’t going to end my life because our or go crazy in a way that’s going to get me locked up in a bad way Lawrence OB I’m going to put my shit out there I’m going to speak the truth and I’m going to let let that be how people figure out what’s up what’s not what matters and what doesn’t button in no way shape or form do I do any of this because I want to it’s because healing comes from getting out of your system to things that aren’t making you feel toxic and that can include interpersonal stuff you can food a thousand different things and I and not going to be silent if being sounds will keep me sick so speaking truth whether its preferred welcomed or not it is actually putting an end to the hurt and that that does also result in and include who serving of ties with many sometimes it’s unfortunately intentional but who matters here for me more than me just like anyone anyone else is the matter for them most at first you need to matter to themselves first and then most importantly so that’s life and I’d rather just choose the most Ford and let the let the heck’s come because the more I get hit the more I’m sure I’ll Never Smile act like its neck and that right there I believe that everyone else had the world to learn how to do and it’s Graham said out of would never put this on lips Alston and Lasting here sorry I go on and on I’m not sorry actually grateful for that time the more people learn the Dakin’s like punched and kicked their way out of the traps that they feel themselves and that doesn’t mean that’s because if it’s a whole process of getting yourself to where you need to be I want everyone to know that everyone can do that it’s going to suck but if I can do this in a Hertz at continuing low I mean living evidence that you can continue to land on your feet than everyone else can too and I don’t care for what I have to say you can do to go live your life and do the best you can be in frankly that’s what I’m doing so fuck off but still please do your thing so you can have everything that I’m going to yeah that was a time and experience as each day goes forward to live in that happiness cuz I want it and you can have the same thing so like fuck I’ll see you later come on back whatever but piece that sounds good man well I know some people who were listening to same I feel kind of lost on what what it is what kind of dancing around here if you don’t know how I know you know you can obviously be as candid or as reserved as you’d like but I feel like it is I would say correct me if I’m wrong but in a broad sense you you stood up to seven justices in the world and that kind of cause the shitstorm of not okayness that week but you prevailed your okayness prevailed over there not okay Miss in the midst of a shitstorm online and not just on its just oh my God can you break that down for us to whatever extent you know isn’t they’re breaching confidentiality or probably not actually not in jeopardy. The funny thing check it out how about I have the moment there who doesn’t you think you have to do when you produce this thing later that they released you have to just two levels and now you know you might take a note oh my God yeah man and just try to keep it brief cuz I can’t be a maniac about this I got to try to come best light for my good for yours in the whole world that you’re you’re Mania Mania Maniac don’t know what was basically I got freaking screwed for doing my job and it’s okay I went to work I was working as a mental health worker I loved what I did and he might stem from the first report back to the Survivor background I was trained and frankly Grant I’m glad it all happened because I couldn’t I don’t have a day job working someplace and having a bad Vibe by the rules of the system which ultimately dictate working in another house feel like I was I was working at this mental health place that was running all about people live experience week we’re all certified peer specialist I love what I did and was your place different part of the state but I buy a new company little did I know that the guy I was working with what’s the sticker McDonald’s scary misogynist I wasn’t familiar with like that degree of creepiest and I was also supposed to be professional and I was getting paid and I had to work another place you working at the mental health worker you have to adhere to certain rules and guidelines of course cuz if you don’t I’ll call Nicole borders new teachers Nursery School teachers in a kindergarten doctors excetera East you have you aware of abuse of a person or in your care if you will or but you have suspicions of it which is also legitimate your required by law in laws law whatever you can take it or leave it what lies you believe in cuz look in the United States right now it’s crazy how ever this is something that we all hold true when you working in the in the human services are helping professions that said it was my requirements that I had no choice to make a report because there was a situation that just frankly was as it turned out was bad this is not an acceptable thing for some people that I expose this in a series of extremely disgusting things occurred and I ended up looking like the bad guy and they really made this The Narrative we will and papers well and ultimately they found out that the report I made was true they found out to the guy that I’ve reported was documented by independent clinicians Adams facility that didn’t work for a company contract in this pretty I’m kind of providers giving groups support groups and then they knew because my report was the same as theirs and they never put it to the facility that my report was already known so they knew they had a guy in there who was behaving a predatory waste for months for two months then he got caught again but but other people who documented the sexualised behaviour and once they had found out that my report was true of any of the guy who is the supervisor my supervisor without telling anybody. Even the assistant director of the HR Director secretly after I didn’t report and it put it back into the same place where I’ve reported what he was doing then he got caught again twice too much later I feel like I’m describing once they had knowledge that I was telling the truth well that wasn’t acceptable and that was the end was me as I knew it was the end of my career as I knew it it was the end of everything I knew and this is during the same time. That after 28 years of my life being intentionally harmed by psychiatric medication for the purpose of keeping me quite I was able to get off of all this I cash medications in fact with the insistence of a team that’s more than one psychiatrist insisting that it was a medication making me sick and they need to take all the diagnosis on my file and the whole nine yards man 20 years of my life on a bunch of bulshit give him his pills and you need sick many everyone throughout my life experience 28 years I mean tonight to you need when I met you in person at all the crazy thing happened at that show moving forward but this is all under the clown under the fog of psychiatric pills that were given to me to shut me out to keep me quiet about Happy with a child adapt a bunch of psychiatrist now when that time. Ike 2008 1314 look at my medical documents and look at me and look at the book I can read and look at how everything does not make sense and say you don’t have these conditions that you’ve been medicated for all your life that it was known you for 28 years as a person drugged you need to go out these pills cuz they are making you sick you’ll never have a chance to have a better life to continue to take the pill this is being sent to me of yet by psychiatrist is it we’re changing what your diagnosis on your medical record you do not have these conditions and I went and I saw my primary care physician in the file and right there just as they said debunks debunk ebox trauma course the charm is there cuz well that’s what happens if you 20 years to be confused this thing with the job is happening at the same time. That I’m getting off these pills and I’ve gone to heels with vinegar text mountain people that my community are angry at me also just left me for side of my job and then I go to Europe for the first time the person I was traveling with to give a presentation a t a take a conference I first time ever going to Europe dream come true after that conference I went into a sauna and Upsala I managed to me within 10 minutes my body had had basically detox rapidly and from it within the fat cells in my body after 20 years of taking psychiatric medication like tearing off the doctors help I did Poison myself in Riga Latvia and I was never the same since I started to slur my words and I was fried more more crazy stuff happen ultimately with all resulted from this is that I lost my home in January 2018 that’s my cat January 2018 I already lost most of my friends call these people thought I was crazy I got into Financial stuff also get social things like most my friendships are getting more and more the tax I lost a bunch of my personal stuff and most people like it truly care about and I still do you know what a live with no real idea what I’m going to do to try to listen to travel the world and find a way to create a new life find a way to connect with other people to find a way to Love by the way to connect by the way I create a new business and Nueva to survive using the foci are offered in different languages and also the English language like you crying and Kosovo you know it Poland and and giving presentations are in and talk circles in in in in you name it healing from trauma healing from abuse how to survive being possible he has been crazy sometimes I misunderstood all the time trying to learn how to be because I never learned as a child I never had a coming-of-age I was drugged for 14 on to all the cells have the same time I totally feel comfortable in my own country I don’t think I can work this is presents about me just like it’s like psychosis around me that like this guy why was he sick while he was mentally sick of these other word but in fact maybe I was drugged how can you explain to somebody week like that wasn’t you it wasn’t me but it looks like you sounds like you I can’t quite I said the pills pills were what were making me so fucked up or how am I supposed to know the difference your right respect all I can do is say you’re right you experience that crazy shit with me and that was real few doesn’t matter if it wasn’t me it was because of I was poisoned for my own good of course that’s what happened so I can only say goodbye and I can’t change that to this is the reality the past four years is always have these things happening in the world disconnected from people from people that have no more going to call ain’t going to call anybody you know is going to pick up that’s how do you find whis when you don’t feel comfortable in your own land cuz you your language is English it’s a dominant language in the world and and you’re a guy easy to just try to reconnect after all these years of chaos you supposed to be a certain weight verifications of you you can escape to past so what are you do what did I do what the heck out of there as I said travel the world very difficult very painful very lonely very hard very beautiful and in that 15 months how do they communicate with people with languages that we do not share what do you do how do you find your weight you can’t just go crazy like I did in a couple years was the way somewhere West getting killed in the airport in Paris I lost my shit you can’t do that you have to learn how to connect on a spiritual level that you can’t communicate people will know your energy just like a cat or a dog you can’t let them experience you went away that you’re going to be repelled by how you learn how to do that how do you learn that’s what you learned and that’s what the story that’s what the backstory is the backstory is a story it’s like five or six what’s it like in your own way with wreck somebody happening at the same time and just by the grace of whatever it is you believe I resulted it was Ulta didn’t me finally getting to the point of saying screw it almost going to go live why can Liz get a Visa they did and take a little money had and get a a place that was furnished and so I did and how I live in a community and I need some friends and that’s the story that’s that’s what you’re asking me it’s like a 15 minute monologue but that’s what the story is it should make enough sense of all this meat is missing tons of pieces that music house ugliness lost torture resulted and be speaking about all we have prior to keep me answering the question if it was up to them that being a store that I can talk about with a smile and with some sort of like humor because I know what resulted in like where I’m at now thank you so what is the advice you have for people who are whistleblowing in organizations where it sounds like sounds like you were is a recipe for disaster in that because anyone could say that your credibility under those circumstances everybody in a situation is the pot calling the kettle black and in a sense so for people who are direct me totally just a source of your strength to overcome oh my God it was it wrecked me I can’t believe them alive direct me so much that I’m laughing about it because it’s like well at the very least it’s always warm here like every piece of shit wasn’t nice to me back in Massachusetts I guess what in the winter you going to pay for that heat and for those of you out there who struggle so I don’t have to deal with that anymore thank you thank you I could have stand I’m coming around to this myself which is that I feel like there is there was a time where I felt like I had to go out there and I had to add jatate and and have a high risk tolerance and a high risk appetite for being involved in the potential for liability of the potential for things sort of backfiring it in in in in doing my work and now I feel like I survived some pretty epic chapters of risk and now I’m finding myself more risk-averse and less risk tolerant and wanting and actually being able to say no but I’d rather not put myself at risk by not that I’m totally disengaging from everything but I will say that that the the duty that I felt I had to be out there in the mix of a lot of chaos I don’t feel that that I feel like I I slay that Dragon I slay those demons and and I can live with myself comfortably not feeling like a coward and not feeling like I was avoiding those those efforts and I wondering if you feel now and it is something that make people can resonate with that they can learn powers that you know you don’t have to fight every battle you can choose your battles as long as you fight some battles and even if you don’t win you survive but you know you did what was right you don’t have to keep doing that forever and you can get yourself the fuck out and go and retire from The Madness of fighting a lot of struggles where it’s a losing battle sometimes and you can just enjoy the face so you know live to fight another day you know you know they say Don’t run you can run away and live to fight another day or you could stay in a place that you’re not going to get out of one piece nnn regret it so I don’t know just want to say that I congratulate you for for doing the right thing and then getting a fuck out of there before you did actually get completely destroyed you know yet well you know what me and your trusty Craig motherfuking Lewis you know that’s what happens when your trusty Craig fucking crazy person Louis I just don’t need that to be sampled probably just got myself some was going to have fun with me with that but that’s okay it doesn’t have a certain that what was the question Bedford just let me be me to take two more of a general commentary and sense of wanting to see the bigger picture which is that sometimes I guess I was seeing if I feel the same way about the politics of insurrectionary Street protests and you put yourself out there and you put yourself in a meat grinder lot of people do and they end up in really serious trouble that they didn’t bargain for that it’s not really sustainable certain forms of resistance are not really sustainable there’s new waves of of people who are going to come up into that but you have to know when to win to what’s the country song what’s the country song when you know how to hold them oh my God yeah it is you don’t talk about anything yeah yeah quit while you’re ahead and I was going to quit while I was ahead I should have just never done shit about the so I made a decision take out the stand on my two feet and stand up when I knew was true and for what I knew was the correct thing to do and to what someone ever did for me when I was 15 years old and then that horrible facility being feminized and section leak destroyed and and and humiliated and have a whole life taken when I was 15 in those two so they locked me up in just got too many times I had no way weather right I didn’t even know if I believe in the Universal God whatever they want to call it if I want to call it whenever I look to you for my my my my my my peace I didn’t know dude in 2015 that’s what I was doing that was a sending that to a better place cuz of what all I was experienced by me throughout my life but there was no way there was no way any any shape or form that I was going to permit and using my legally-protected role as a mandated reporter there was no way I was going to permit what I was witnessing happening in front of me to people who were the victim of assault and simple ways I was when I was a kid and when I was a kid I asked for help and no one helped me I would love to rot and take it there was no way and 2015 that I was going to break from my responsibilities and I just didn’t legal responsibility responsibility responsibility but the opportunity to make sure using my power that I had been given by becoming certified to work in the role of I had been working in there was no way I was going to go to deviate from that there was no way I was going helping that individual with a moment of peace when I was not afforded the very same thing that I deserve as much as everyone who’s ever been a situation like that woman was deserved and I stood in my two feet and I would do the same thing right now again because it was the right thing to do and I will always go to look myself in the mirror and a camera and whatever I never that was right now looking forward to move on and it doesn’t matter that like I got crushed in the process and it come on how many people are going to listen to this I thought his back but I want to hear about like awesome stuff like so what like what kind of fool of myself are so funny and it’s true what kind of fool thinks it’s a good idea business right now you all know them for one important reason it is important as a valid and it’s to be honored and respected but it does not mean you should do business-to-business okay and you don’t do people like yourself what’s a crazy people that word with deep affection Love because as professionally as I previously identified I want to be good crazy so maybe good crazy so that’s where I go to stay However maybe not everyone’s good crazy maybe I’ve not always been good crazy not truth what a terrible idea to work intimately with people cool ultimately it’s true cuz he went to humans ultimately it will save their own skin for doing the right thing because not everybody is not their fault it’s the reality is reality. Everybody grows up with like a street addict or knowing how it is to be closer to the bottom and I fortunately or unfortunately I am how you stated feeling perceive things many of the people that must have people that I was involved with what are of a higher class if you will or better way of living or a different kind of environment that allow after Sosa to delete it I never had it so I don’t blame them for Being Human but certainly did lack of understanding of what it meant to do what was right was more within me as a person who was straight talk and someone who grew up in just I guess nicer and perhaps more supportive of surroundings which I did not Amen brother that’s the truth right on that what I think yeah we should I think we should call it a show at I was at Adventure I was expected nothing less than and definitely you delivered on bringing bringing the the the healthy crazy that healthy and powered acknowledgement of what it takes in like hey was the word of of CO2 I remember that song Still if we’re never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy right so I believe that I believe it I feel it I’m the same way I’m definitely letting go on some innovations that have helped me back and I’m feeling more free and more wild and less less compromising to people who may not agree or understand what I’m trying to do and there’s a way to there’s a I think there’s a way you’re proving it and I’m I’m catching up to you honestly about getting to a point where you just you give no fuks about being a walk in your truth in speaking your mind and people don’t like it they can they can shove it up their okayness yeah and I’m okay with that closing statement a lubricated sex toy and gently massage it as they relax the sphincter into their anus until they filled okay no I don’t want to use shoving it up your ass says this is your word is because on the township on podcast we are all about putting the anus back into Okemos and putting the penis back into happiness all right have you seen the movie the interview Seth Rogen when they go to North Korea and they interview the North Korean dictator they say that they hate us cuz they ain’t us all the ants talk is that this is going to be listened to and I can ask around closing statement obviously my lots of curious people about Craig Lewis and better days and all this crazy nonsense stop podcasting a plus with all the craziness it’s hard to get work when you’re up when you’re allowed muffins supposed love for myself it’s awesome but all the people are the characters in the world I want to see I love you and I’m grateful for every person who has ever existed in my life including every person who has not been nice to me with every person who is abused me iPhone I am quitting the worst ones and I don’t want you all my life but I do forgive you because that’s the best for my. You’re my love for myself and also I just also think it’s very relevant necessary because I know this would be listen to cuz people whose voice and I’m staying right now will you love me or hate me or whatever it is it’s okay it’s okay because things have been crazy and I wouldn’t want to have to hang out with me sometimes the way things were but I can’t imagine being someone else it was horrible I was going through a living you know what I don’t want to say that word because I choose to like try to be better doesn’t mean that always succeed as you all know that you can I I’m grateful to be here today laughing about it crazy just going on I think some things that come out of my mouth that bow that’s pretty intense stuff sometimes I like using my brain is sometimes you say things that are little bit much so what I’m grateful to be here now I’m grateful to everyone if I’ve hurt your feelings or offended somebody will the problem with a reason but I also feel like that’s not okay so I do apologize for being hurtful because when you’re fighting a battle and you feel like you’re you’re experiencing or you’re proceeding being under some sort of Oppression you do things are sometimes don’t always make sense and you fight me ways that not everyone’s going through Fluevog so I will recognize this truth that goes for everybody including how I’ve communicated with you in the past and I have not been easy so this trip this accountability this acceptance of yes it’s not been pretty getting to this place and I am I in a gray spot now I’m working on it and it’s because I chose to be what I wanted to be and I tried to walk my talk and my Straight Talk sucks sucks sucks so I’ll leave you with this liked my dear friend and be host to talk about just suggested you can just get that lubrication and like jet me like take care of with best the love that you deserve because you deserve to feel good inside and however you find a way to feel good inside I know the tundra parked behind and I think it’s fair to say that I’m behind that to oh my God that sounds crazy that wasn’t even planned that I’m sorry but yeah oh my God I think it’s happened in my brain and that was thank you Universe this is crazy I don’t know what to say if it doesn’t get any simpler than put the anus in Okemos and put the penis and happiness and we will all be living in it beer peace more peaceful or more fulfilling more abundant world man so I think that’s that’s that’s what I asked what it comes down to and and I store is the next time I bought the world travels but that’s what I thought that’s what the best and I want a wonderful rest of your evening and we’ll be in touch again soon I love you so much and I love you so much for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition assassini and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email said I turned your punk. 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Hacking Group Romance as a Porn Director not a Cult Leader TPP200

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In this episode I’m joined by a mystery guest for a wild comedic adventure into the repressed caverns of my erotic mind. She holds enthusiastic and giggly sacred space for me to get on a roll lamenting about the current state of monogapathic culture. She helps me get through a lot of catharsis in exploring my life history of drama and madness surrounding opening up to more inclusive group sexual and romantic encounters. With her gracious support, I’m able to take liberties in the manner in which I share some of my most passionate and taboo-breaking fantasies. With care and consideration for ethics and holism, I attempt to induce a few laughs as I graphically depict my experimental designs for hacking group romance.

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Com and our journey together will begin pillow their beloveds welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 200 I just got back from an East Coast tour with the punk rock metal band and I’m thrilled to say we had a great time and did very well and I made it back in one piece and this is an exciting episode 200 Extravaganza where are some of my backlog recording this and this was one of the one of my favorite ones that I had to choose from for the episode 200 and I think you will really Joy it is definitely something different it is it is a my first summer unintentional extended comedy monologue with a a wingwoman of sorts and she’s holding space for me to bring forth into a level of of hilarity that I don’t normally I don’t know don’t normally summon and don’t really feel as is often appropriate but once you get on a roll when you start to really stimulate somebody’s Funny Bone verbally then it’s it’s hard not to to just run with his so it may be offencive it may be a little over-the-top and in that what we’ve come to appreciate about that classic stand up comedian form is that you’re able to get away with exposing truths in a very heated very sometimes aggravated state of mind and people cathartically get off on someone else saying what speaking out there are deeper taboo thoughts so if this is the first episode you’ve heard of mine it is definitely uncharacteristic of most of the rest way I tend to joke here and there but really really typically try to be pretty reserved and really focus on a I’m more of a dialogue with a guess this in this case it’s it’s almost completely One Direction all but her being there is absolutely essential in order to get that Dynamic flowing and it certainly in the sense of Comedy it really helps I don’t know how people can just write write comedy in their own inner sanctuary and not have that that reverberation in that that feedback and and dynamic but anyway this is a lot of fun and what we’re talking about what I’m talking about. Manly and she’s helping hold the space for me to really mansplain in an unethical way really is talking about the the bloopers and Antics and Folly and what I’ve learned from attempts to hack this notion of group romance and really learn from a lot of mistakes and really create sort of personal interpersonal living breathing think-tank research experiment out of how to best overcome the limitations that we have in most modern patriarchal monotheistic minago Pathak cultures where our options are very limited and our experience and Expo are two other modes of loving and healing and relating romantically they’re completely systematically cauterized by these Disneyland archetypes of monogamy and whatnot so I get into the higher level kind of macro cultural analysis and critiques and then we get into a lot of really fun really absurd ridiculous and playful visual kind of comedic audioporn take to get through some of the designer ideas of how to how to be hacking group romance and I’m really this is it from my perspective a a male centered male-oriented you could call it phallocentric you could say I’m being a chauvinist here but really I think it’s about making sexual gratification in the feeling of love and connection amongst people be as egalitarian as possible and really work with what you have within your your orientation your identity your group of friends and just explore those boundaries and really gamify group romance and hopefully this really stands is a introductory Treatise on why it’s important to explore these things and what the the payoffs are so hope you enjoy it this is definitely for me one of my top favorite episodes of all time because of where we where we get to in the end of Vibes of it you know I hope that it leaves you rolling on the floor and also curious and also emboldened to take more adventurous steps in the future of your love life all right thank you very much if you’ve been with me along waist episode 200 thank you for for being with me and enjoy this historic episode thank U Namaste and they would not be comfortable with you hacking the storylines of of compulsory monogamy and telling stories very festive stories about what it’s like to like not be in patriarchy and like it she does she know yeah that’s what good for sale teacher reflect a picture or no one’s happy everybody’s miserable and just whining about it new relationships breaking out and being her and then just repeating the cyclist over and over is very defeatist like cry about level of times but at least you’re feeling something at least you’re not a total sociopath narcissist like don’t even care spending to steal it self-inflicted stuff too cuz you just like wanting holding on to like the painful stuff I guess we’re like people that aren’t making like the best for you but it’s sad and it’s like Basin and being married and being screwed if you lose that Financial Lifeline life support so there we have listed this is the in permaculture design Geoff Lawton and it likes to use this teaching to a witches that when it comes to like agriculture what you’re talking about gardening earlier today but it’s like this so if you only plant one crop in a field that’s a lot like fishing with a single line where they know that if that crop fails or that line breaks your your your Sol and so the smart Fisher person would say I let me fish with a net so that if one or even several of those lines break with internet I still have a functioning device here so that’s what you could systems do and that’s why polyculture in gardening and Horticulture polyculture means multiple different phrase things as opposed to monoculture so you can make this analogy very happy to monogamy and monoculture and still what’s resilient in an ecosystem diversity right the more diverse ecosystem the more resilient it is the more flexible adapter is in more abundant and flourishing it is so monoculture monogamy monotony it’s and then that’s why people are living in this wounded heart broken real disaster of a reality and it’s just profit people that make the Laurie handlers cuz it seems like I’m she said in her podcast if this was a easy the country cafe or sex and happiness she said to podcast over the years she makes an excellent point that she’s over his doesn’t not interested in the heartache that sells and wants to crack break your heart open to love everyone pretty much and to have new experiences and to be open to new experiences and so have a very regenerative heart and I would like the concept of being a heart Gardner so like I’m trying to I have not just one heart that I love her that I tend I have a garden that I attend of many hearts and some of them need more attention at times some of them you know every more self-sufficient some of them could tell me to get lasted for cough and don’t even want want me like even looking at them and everything in between so then you know being a heart Gardner and trying to keep them all alive and and not neglect them and be responsible for like letting them Blossom letting them rot on the vine either you know anyway so there’s so much to learn and so much to sing about so sincere singer I’m a singer we’re going to think about this stuff. We also actually I need to have experience to know where the fuck were talking about so that’s where we begin with what where does the authentic Journey actually begin and that’s where we and I just watched Breakfast Club where they were it’s like this painstaking process of socially engineering the truth out of what how and what circumstances virginity was happening or not happening so we all have virginity is two different things even if we popped her cherry City this week so so we’re at the precipice of The Virginity of your experimental lesbianism is it a few dedicated to your not identified as a woman now what do you mean what I mean is that my I’m very interested in the notion of you having sex with a woman if you if you want to sit at one point I was very blunt and I asked you and I risked I risked being considered a British attend to try to do that so it’s basically asking if I’m if you’ve ever had if you would have ever had sex with a woman and if not would you like to and you said you would like to but you like to what you say roll around with me first right I think that’s yeah so that could be arranged so basically you know that’s compromised that’s that’s how you have probably that’s the beginning of it is like what do you need what a minor needs how can we meet in the middle somewhere and so well this is what is so interesting to me and what I am going to share is like my design concept that I put a lot of effort into trying to figure out which is this is that okay if we really break the stuff down what we don’t have what we have a lot of experience of as children is being gently yet with with I would say lowercase authoritarianism weird we are compelled by adults to share toys and we learn against whatever maybe that jealous or envious nature or selfish nature we learn to to actually eventually Delight in the gift of sharing something with others so that we actually realize that there’s this abundance of my face you know it’s not like hopefully it’s not like you don’t eat the toy in the toy is something that doesn’t get destroyed after one use of the toy I’m so that you can hand it on and and let other people experience so what somewhere along the path of puberty we get program to lose that fundamental sociability and Collective position of like the toys that we would be sharing on the playground and once we develop and grow and have her own public Parts in appropriate age appropriate settings to explore Inn Express in which we all know is lacking in this culture and that’s why we have abusive all kinds cuz we don’t have rice passage and we don’t know when we are to do wet when howl with himself in a healthy way or holistic way I should say so we’re we are fumbling in the dark trying to figure this stuff out and somewhere we get cursed with these imprints of monogamy that is compulsory compulsive Naga me bound up in Notions of being a prince and a princess and all of these socioeconomic status oriented ways of like something being mine a person me owning that person this status symbol so there’s I’m not saying anything for you know this groundbreaking to indict these memes and this culture architecture and you know they have spoken to like many people feminists just look at feminist anthropology in the critique of domestication in the in the critique of civilization and patrilineal descent and the the the the way that wealth and land and power is handed down from a meal bloodline Emil name Inlet that’s why you control you would need to control the female sexuality and reproductive freedom in order to guarantee that your son gets your land in and not someone else’s so that’s that’s the patriarchy connection and we want to what super tall that perverted and silver and actually compost the patriarchy is she so I don’t think there’s a there’s no there’s nothing more subversive then then then opening up relationships because once you start buying less because old do do we need to each have our own garage filled with tools from big box stores or can we all share one fucking tool set amongst us all lovers sharing each other’s bodies it’s not rocket science and it’s not rocket science way they have made it so difficult to be relating sexually openly with computers with a peer group and neighborhood of adults because they want us all to be in our little boxes buying one of every that have everything and not sharing anything and therefore it cuts into their bottom line so we are doing our best to compost the patriarchy to be subversive and actually have a lot of fun doing it it’s not a dip revation and sacrifice to have more fun sexually with more people it is a little bit more requisite of time for emotional care and tenderness for sure it’s complicated and it is and is medically important to be but if it’s as if you can play any video game that you play any board game you can gamify Sexual Health in a group you can end in the end not to do bring it to the light and be like okay well we match here like literally HSV expressing in one part of the body can match to that and another person other parts of body and you can pretty much pretty much know you’re safe at that point there’s there’s ways to gamify these things so that you know curses can be blessings in yet make it very used that’s who we need to design the user-friendly interface for people to connect and 4 shame and not even just the end of course the STI status stuff but also people who just have body issues about so we can be mixing and matching his stuff and yeah. There’s an app for it kind of a thing you know in this world so so we’re getting there and you know you pull the card and you know people who so it will and that’s why that’s the reason to do yoga so that you can hold these sexual positions forever because he like baby words said when a man basically two pair of fruit to fear fear for his baby Ward and I’m mixing a couple of I’m adding a couple together of her if you’re beautiful phrases but basically if I were Davey word I would probably say something like if I if I was balls do you know when your balls deep in me I want it to last forever I want your penis in my vagina forever and I can’t Rainman how to make that possible and actually there was a good scene in Jerry Maguire where she asked for him to she’s don’t ever stop fucking me in a kind of like kills the mood when he says I think I’ll have to stop at some point and then they fucking break up with a douche no sorry to tell you I love you tons hear me okay forget about it Interview with the Vampire okay stop me somebody for the cold water on me right now all right yeah it was Saved by the Bell you is just batteries going to last all night long you’re you’re you’re getting okay so it’s yours work as graphic this is where he’s going to get more perverted this is building it up so building and Outdoors like what is it why does this matter that’s why why am I trying to have so much fun packing monogamy and the shame and the pain and the jealousy and the limitation it’s just it’s false it’s completely insane and in deranged and and I will not tolerate it for one more second my life and in that spirit I say I’ve done the boyfriend-girlfriend thing I’ve done in monogamy thing I’ve done a jealousy thing and then a hard brake thing so if somebody enters my life and is attracted to me I go out how this is interesting erotic energy flowing in my direction how can I not manipulated not abused if not not not heard it or harm it but actually let it flow through my little garden design of more pleasure and then also this is the thing where I feel like I’ve made an important hack an important this is because this is been going back to how we learn to share so this is as an adult with adult content adult appropriate settings of course but really bring it down and that’s why I am a huge fan of psychedelic sexuality because it inhibits the neurotic aspects of the ego and if you’re going to trust in space and you have referees and you have good guidance and going on in people are observing and being Sheriff’s that to the boundaries when the people are you know any in there Altered States but would you with the beauty of it is that you get to explore again and you get to explore bodies and he could do store your own body and it’s not a story about who’s owns this and who’s rights to this and fuck where’s all the paperwork and did I swear to it tonight so that’s and it doesn’t have to be an orgy of people fucking very sloppily very carelessly when you get into the tantric practices of massage wherever it’s about it’s really the best things really happen with the most intentional experts killed manual and leading up to of course different forms of penetration with genitals but it’s underrated how much how much pleasure and how deep deep healing we can be with their hands with each other in and really there’s no excuse not to be doing that cuz you’re not going to make babies and they just called outercourse or mutual masturbation went on so that’s where rather than rushing from first base to second base and all of that hyper rush to the Finish Line stuff fit culture this culture is trained to do you actually can start out saying okay it could literally be a fun and fulfilling and safe Friday night for a group of friends 2 take each other to take their clothes off and use their hands to induce different types of orgasms in each other consensually and into explorer that and so that’s where I say the games of politics becomes like whose are you fucking that is long as you if you if you keep that off the table a little just long enough and this is what so at what I have there is like a Zone that is safer emotionally and medically to play in in groups to actually start to rewire and meltdown those belief systems so that you have a clean slate in in your capable of exploring slowly and building on the new Pannu template that you design and we’re very plastic a blank brain can be reformatted we can 3 format is hard drive as many times we want there’s no limit to it and we were it’s absurd to think they were stuck in a 2000 year old paradigm I’d rather be in a 200,000 Euro Paradigm cuz that’s where the real phone was happening anyway but we’re going to get to the Primal Anarchy of lovemaking groups in just a minute now so break here’s how we break from breakthroughs goes invisible prison cells in our minds about monogamy and so I figured it out like how I would like to conduct a ceremony words like okay this is my penis here and there’s people that want to play with it and put it in different parts of their bodies and hopefully have a good time with it and if it really like Gibson gets them there and brings them there and then delivers the goods then they will become deeply deeply addicted to that experience and Anna on a level that is that is beyond any extreme passion of any terrorist has any ideology the amount of passion that and I would say a woman from in my experience the level of chemical spiritual just that’s what we should be living for men who love who love women is like for them to be taken so far out and so far in that they will want to kill other people who take threatened to take that experience away from them I every other women that you’ve ever known that you might never know so that’s where we have this conundrum which is like it is so good like I want you to be obsessed with me but I do not want you to be obsessed with me you know cuz that’s right cuz I’m going to kill myself if you’re not obsessed with me but I’m going to run away from you and run into the street if you’re obsessive me so either way I die do you know yeah and I had to run in the street to avoid women who are obsessed with me and it’s no joke cuz otherwise I would have thought they didn’t love me if they weren’t a homicidal maniac it’s right so there’s a way to disperse that energy and it’s like oh wait a minute he’s fucking me but I’m making out with a woman and looking into her eyes and who do I lose what it oh my God is I don’t know who is fucking me right now but it feels great and I agreed to it like I signed off that anyone can fuck me tonight with this and that and this so like I don’t know who to write the check to you know what I mean like anymore it’s just too much just don’t stop so I’ve been there and I’m never going back to the the the hell rounds it is about diffusing that pleasurable experience across so many different Souls that it’s impossible to Tribute it to one person and really I believe that this is not an astoundingly long wide penis that I have that I think is perfectly shaped to do what it was designed to do and I’m happy with it whatever yeah I’ve gotten good reviews so far in life women who wanted to kill other women because they were so possessive of this thing that it’s just like always wants to do is just be warm and wet and love them that is so I have a beloved partner and you know I would kiss your boobs goodbye and tell him to be good every day knowing if she was like why I never did anything bad to anybody ever and I realized that was the pure essence of innocence is Brett’s cuz like you can never say that they ever do anything bad to never manipulated anybody they never play games with anybody they just give and give and give you know so anyway that’s another story if we could only all aspire to be as innocent as a breast but never do anything to hurt anybody ever never had to be told to be nice just what is nice you know x-ray sexual Zen state that people would have to meditate for years if they didn’t eat mushrooms to figure that out like become a breast and live in the consciousness of breast in this and just experienced pleasure and give pleasure and don’t fucking overthink it you know it as long as everybody is of legal age and sound mind and knows what they’re signing up for essentially we can work out the details but I’ve been in those moments where it’s like yes what’s making this woman lose her mind and ecstasy is 80% the emotional connection with other women that she is sharing and then I am there to be basically a prop to the beautiful. Theater of feminine understanding and that is when I understood For the First Time The futility of women trying to squeeze blood from a stone to make bullheaded dumb men who would rather be playing video games or breaking shit or glowing sit up or doing something fucking mindless and heartless for fun and just acting them and making them be a woman when they’re not a woman because they can’t explore sexual intimacy with other women because they’re afraid of the taboo of lesbianism and because it would be against the rules and whatnot so when melted down and was in a sensor Moniz were psychedelic ceremonies wear them all of these stories were melted away and it was just women in fucking ecstasy the agony and ecstasy and using my cock is a prop but also as an energetic current in a source of love and that my refinement was allow me to be in that space and I realize that it’s like it is so cumbersome to be responsible for a woman’s orgasm in a love making session why would I want all of that burden on myself it’s like I have to at my age I have to think about not coming too fast beat not losing my erection and in trying to make a sincere emotional sincere present connection with the person who I am kissing is with that is enough for me to have to do it now I’m responsible for her squirting and I like coming in the same say when I saw the leveraging of all these other women and how freely flowing the orgasms come when the openness in the connectedness is there with other women so so like I said I’m not taking a step back and now if anybody wants to come at me they’re going to have to go through that that ate a form of of grade school of learning in or black ass like that you’re going to come at me do you want to fuck me you need a black belt in loving me to get in and if you go into any Karate Dojo they’re not even said hey I want to do what you do can you hand me your black belt right now please here I’ll give you a beer can I buy you a beer and then you give me a black belt no stupid you’re so stupid Bibb so what was the quote from the movie UHF which is very a so you definitely watch UHF to understand where my sense of humor comes from but yes I’ll good good so so we’re solving this problem and creating these designer experiences and so what I realized is that the impulse for a woman to have this one-dimensional relationship with a man’s cock so that she wants to possess it so as you’re a very own the way for me to logically very very simple-minded lycee what is the how do you prevent that is to say well you will learn to get to know my cock at exactly the same time as another person and you will only have a 50/50 relationship with whatever you do you say like you would with your best friend and I had her saying in people may not like to hear me say is cuz it sounds good feed it to your best friend first feed it to your best friend first and I didn’t even think about the secondary effect of that which for me that was just that was just like I’m going to know that you’re not going to lose your mind with jealousy when you can just say here actually you can I’ll let you go first so that would be the the the tantric taboo test of transgression against yourself like that Siri you’re going to lose your mind will feel into that and start simple we’re going to dance together and you’re going to watch just that and is that make your blood boil what happens after your blood simmers down do you start to like so now it’s like whatever that point is where that demon comes out of jealousy you were going to rub the shit out of your clit until it goes and tell you what you’ve you become a demon Whisperer with your clit and me and everybody just wants to create more and add more locks to the fire and you transmute that negative emotion into a positive motion and then in the probably will be called conversion the opposite we don’t have a word for it we do not have a word except for that one which no one knows it set designer neologism but we don’t have the band singing about how good it feels to watch their wife get fucked by Adam Ant And so yeah here we come back full circle so we will be so we’re going to we’re going to have these experiences we’re going to sing about it and and so this is the this is the what the the the climax of this conversation will be in my opinion is is when I talked about how the it’s not just a theoretical Gaiden guiding principle to say oh yeah we’ll will like yeah okay you flip a coin and I have sex first with the person who wins that round and then I stopped having sex with you and hopefully it didn’t lose my wind in 5 minutes cuz I was so fucking turn on by the sexy after they all I got another $5 and it’s over for me for like they’re already like forgot every system anyway cuz they’re tearing each other inside out and everything and I’m just watching and trying to like make it come to live again and finally it will eventually but you should know I’m getting That’s The Hampsterdance the Tantra hence the sexual Jedi Knight training so that you can breathe breathe through and in have the orgasms without losing the love don’t be a 5 lb jump so hit the two feminists so I think I’m going to say okay if she’s dying to give me a blowjob then like we time it for like okay like we’re going to play your favorite song and it’s going to be about the same equal thanks to to her favorite song and you going to eat each other’s favorite songs and I’m like hold each other’s heads and massage each other and just be like holding each other from behind and Miss Priss massaging each other that they take turns but there’s still a potential in that for for jealousy to arise in forever and for it to be I mean I just thought of a way to actually literally short-circuit everything in a really beautiful elegant circuit and so here is the design and I will try to verbally explain unless they can so I love the idea of two women’s hands clasping together around my cock and massaging it gently up and down as they face each other and our eye gazing intermittently so the visual so far is is that the dear beloved goddesses or I are facing each other so actually agency kneeling I’m I am laying on my back and they both are kneeling with their literally as clothes into my armpit is possible so that I can reach Below in between their legs and butt so I can have a hand on each clit and vulva fingers is a good middle finger on the clit and to end so if I’m cuffing the vulva and able to use my longest middle finger to be stroking the each clit simultaneously in patterns you know singer sew and I’m basically playing streams is like playing guitar and make a solo I’m playing shift I have this is because the end of vocalizations or what I’m tuning for it you know so so it isn’t this beautiful instrument of a playing these two young hearts that are kissing each other and like I gazy and exactly is so I’m making sure that they’re not feeling left out in that apartment while I’m being stimulated and everybody is being stimulated sexually and everyone is feeling a part of a closed circuit that is meeting everyone’s needs and in and there’s no favoritism there’s no hierarchy the really so thin and if anything I am as the man in my back and that is what time trick Kali worshipping actual full fully pornographic and I hesitate to use that word was fully glorious erotic depictions of the circuitry of how this stuff works so if it’s if you’re not approve any 3 I mean if you’re not so sexually stunted then you would just understand that these icons are just road maps to the spiritual terrain of understanding the energetics of Shiva Shakti god goddess energy so we’re designing with that and we’re creating a maximum hydraulic energy flows in in in a way that is very egalitarian actually inhibits the growth of the ego and that sense of so-and-so I’ve experienced this in not that exact formation but that’s why I aspire to be a porn director so that I can I can work with people who are very comfortable taking Direction and are not going to lose their minds and so I actually had this conversation today they’re what makes me not a cult leader and what prevents me from ever becoming a cult leader is this one fundamental thing right but I have to study cold it is to know how not to be a quote later cuz otherwise I would just be cranking out so much Kool-Aid day Kool-Aid would have to invent a time to punch flavor you know I got to be sponsored by Kool-Aid the Kool-Aid man oh yeah it would have it I make my own Kool-Aid Man Township anyway after dark okay I wanted how they’ve not sued like I have all of the libelous memes and they feel bad for the Kool-Aid guy I didn’t fucking poisonous people man I don’t mean to be making fun of them and I really got to get serious about not making a joke out of the people who died in the massacre Crazy Eights it’s it’s it’s public domain now to make a joke to either the expression people say don’t drink the Kool-Aid it’s because people at Jonestown were by a charismatic cult leader who was it was an extremely right with it skips a generation maybe but that’s how memes get formed yes so I mean that’s how they sort of deprecated the roots and you say things that we don’t know how does the reason we’re numb it so they don’t drink the Kool-Aid means don’t consent to a groupthink. Virus that makes mass suicide be acceptable and so they poisoned the Kool-Aid punch and that’s how everyone can scented make give it to their kids and everyone is like this is fine and some people try to protest and they were silenced and some people try to run away and it was a nightmare and it was absolutely what I would I must not allow myself to become as a priest that uses sexual mind manipulation and coercive tactics to trade love and affection attention and orgasm for 4 unquestioning devotion into the point of suicide so that that’s the extreme case that that we that is a litmus test for if you were going down that slippery slope but I actually tend to want to study the mental illness of sociopath sociopathy narcissism and I would like to consider myself a benign I’m the benign narcissist I know that that is a character flaw that I am not how we going to like defeat by doing the past limitations as many times that night and I’m going to roll with it and I’m going to say yeah I will be like Howard Stern and I will be I’m going to if I’m going to be this personality I’m going to make a bonsai tree out of my own ego if I can and have other people help in the process but but things going going back to the to the cult thing and what me what gives me the authority to design this orgasmic Orchestra what why and how do you not just become a colder than soy everyone you meet is basically in that on that game board now how am I going to manipulate you to be in this in this position that I would like you to be in to fulfill my fantasy of engineering all this town truck stuff and and if I’m if I’m this is well that’s spit out the Kool-Aid don’t swallow I think what we’ll get to that for sure that’s going to be a we’re going to get to that but can’t forget that we’ll save that for the for the most triumphant moment the climax is when we’re going to use that it’s so precious now after it’s been built up so ever since a joke that’s going about 2 it’s going to explain come on your face it’s going to come on yesterday and you’re going to beg for it and so hits is it is I’ve had people beg me to come in the third eye and it was hard to resist but this is going to be almost as good as that sharing you this one liner inside joke and just a minute but to wrap up this sort of dark out thing that we were doing with the coal thing is that it how do you know how do I hedge against being the creepiest man every like people think that Barney the purple dinosaur because he and forgive me if I’m butchering the facts here but as far as I know he’s doing what I considered to be taboos for me which is charging women money to have sexual penetrative intercourse with them above all without protection and making that into a to me that’s not a scalable business model and you can ask your doctor wife but Barney I mean I get it and I get that that’s the love thing being cultivated generated so I think I don’t know whether I consider that good pressure bad press for modern Neo Tantra or what not but I’d love to have them on the podcast I’m sure it’s going to happen and I can’t say that I was a fan of the art form of Barney the purple dinosaur but but but I would love to get to the full story and also talked about the ethics and this medical the medical duty of care that comes with sexual and pinch of intercourse with anybody so anyway that’s the sad but who were talking about okay what if you were intrigued and maybe turned on by me talking about these erotic circuit boards then you also have to be somewhat red-flagged and starting to cringe and go where how old is this get arranged in what are the incentives and how do you how do you manage the Eagles and how do you who’s in charge it’s like you can’t it’s a scary thing but you wouldn’t work but that’s why when I went when I say what I realized for me the aha moment in my sexual career was that if I want to have out-of-the-box sex I have to pay lots of money for it from professionals who have trained her nervous system to do theater performance of sexuality as escorts or as Dom’s or as porn performers because they’re good sports they’re not spoil Sports about any of the stuff for the most part if they’re treated well and respected and then contracts are here too and they know what they’re getting into and hopefully they’ve matured and hopefully their brain has developed to its full capacity IE the age that it takes to actually I don’t say that to you exactly so you better know there’s a dimension of Ethics when it comes to harvesting teenagers for your for whatever Annette and I have had some of the best sex in my life as a 30 year old being fucked up fucked senseless by teenager in a row in a monogamous relationship and I will I will tell you that it’s it some it was worth the daddy issues that I had to deal with it was worth reparenting her and it was worth every bit of emotional kind of awkwardness that there wasn’t some of the an Amex because she was such a good full spirited Prime late night it was funny cuz I was like I want to settle you down and basically like I could teach your making a kid with ADHD sit in class is like no she wants to fuck wildly she wants you to perform more than you possibly ever could even at 30 and and she and she is not she doesn’t need these esoteric practices too heavy multi-orgasmic she’s fucking coming or brains out like so hard and I and I couldn’t sit her down the aisle still enough to do any of the practices that I thought were going to be so enlightening and went in the great thing is is it a fuck it like it is certain point you just say no guru there’s a song about it’s like no guru no no scripture No play just in the Dow of the thing so anyway so that’s a side note to say there is a sacred place for adult for fully mature brain develop adults to be having sex with teenagers and and I know that it can be done because I’ve done it but it also takes you can’t just treat them like a commodity please you got to you got to think about pedagogy Nikki learned from the person that you’re teaching teaches you things to like a circle so then so we’re talking about these ethics and where I wanted to just close that point about how I do my best to not be a cult leader I thought I figured it out pretty simply and correct me if I’m wrong but basically it’s it’s I dare you to to indict me for the the criminal and civil liability of misconduct for for for structuring a certain way so this is how I this is this is very simple as this is like this I said that this is a different the difference from a cult leader is that I’m a porn director I pay women to be directed and then I pay whoever I want to I will I will I will choose performers who I resonate with for whatever we would like to do together to make beautiful art and and I will compensate them and pay them to take time out of their lives to be a part of my design and to be directed by me they’re not paying me for healing for enlightenment for direction for guidance and I’m directing them and Meghan gratifying myself and taking their money in convincing mind fucking them and taking more of their money and more than money until they don’t talk to their friends because of and that’s how Colts are basically extractive from their students the colors are extracting from their devotees the difference is how many colors do you know that actually give their devotees money I will pay you oh now I’m making corned a porn director and I am more karmically correct than the fucking Guru who is fucking having people kiss his feet and take your money so who would have thought that the corn directors were the most enlightening Yogi’s to ever attempt to be divine and I have my favorites and I’m a fan of some of them I want I want to see the names but right now but that cuz I wouldn’t want to leave any out you know what I mean bless you all for paying people to direct them into your Twisted fucking fantasies and giving them that dignity like hats of their not wondering about it cuz there’s that was having a conversation today it’s like a buyer’s remorse if I say to you I’m just saying if you remember when you had to if you were old enough to know that there was a day when when when your allowance equals one CD for $15 so humorous if you never had experience this is important I think this is important teaching is important teachable moment is that is that and I don’t want to be today. Take care no man’s planning anything in them to have fun here but this is like this is this is late so here’s the funny thing though you think about I remember what it was like when I had to convince myself that amusing that a CD that fucking sucked was actually good because I paid money for it and I would not let myself suffer the indignity of having made a mistake so I was in a state of denial and delusion so so so feeling this isn’t meditation okay everybody think of something that you paid money for that you discovered was in the zoo is suboptimal and you used mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you actually liked it even though you knew deeply that you didn’t like it but it was called buyer’s remorse it was called the sunk cost fallacy of sunk cost fallacy is that because you invested something into this you have to continue beyond the point of no return because you can’t live with yourself other ways so that is this Twisted perverse placebo effect that happens when it’s like I went to the sex guru to get healed and he said for 9999 I would get here and but I but I could also upsell to the bonus extra double healing deluxe super Cosmic Crystal trademark excetera right thing and try before you buy money back guarantee accessories that you’re all of his legal he’s in fine print all the stuff but there is but that’s where it is we’re expecting to have some result that you paid money for and you will question whether or not okay did I was a hole in my heel did I pay enough money to pay more and some money and it is it distorts things and you did it it did contaminated in a way for that so I’m skeptical that I can be done right in that sense and that’s just me so what I say let’s work in the garden together my time equals your time and now we’re planting trees equals an hour of Yoni massage your prostate massage and therefore it’s a flat equal everybody has the same it’s his first come first serve you know and orgasms for work shirts that was my hand jobs for Humanity and helping a tree with two or so you’ll see it yeah it’s a white paper was written so is he ever gets faster so so that’s how I’m not going to be a cult leader is that I’m not going to charge people money to be Pawns in my game of or are you going to be players in my Game of Thrones Township Township twister you will get paid handsomely to be in my theater my game of Township twister and you can quit you can get any time you know that’s that’s that’s the thing to you won’t be like oh if I walk away now you know that then where I’m not like what I paid for I’m I’m already invested so much forever so so many different dynamics of of incentivization happening in this thing is so anyway that that was I think it is important to lay that out and and this is probably the first time I’ve articulated it on the podcast but I just was having this conversation today with this answer the CD metaphor thing where it’s like you know it did that it’s it’s a problem that way so so that’s I will not be extracting money from people in that in that way I’d rather pay them to be in my in my Productions and feel better about it that way so getting back to the fun stuff in the production itself so imagining that that would be the way from now on where I’m like if you want to that’s basically what I just described about that circuit of three people as a minimum to starting point is like that is the that is first base now you know that’s first base because getting into the circuitry of actual intercourse that’s where it required that’s where we get into the medical the medical responsibilities aspects and we get into more of the karmic sharing we’re really swapping scum he’s on an astral level at that point more so than if it’s an outercourse thing and you can’t go back once you know I don’t want to sound like a prepaid only sound like a six- future but but they were right about this mean you’re not wrong about everything they’ve had no sex for anybody ever. Is not the solution to people having sexually transmitted demons running rampant all over the place and it’s about making them your friends and making them work for you not against you and making them expose themselves properly and in you know where it’s not a pure realm we are not going to be perfectly protected in fear we can strive for that and we can use Kundalini and Prana and mantras and all of our medicines in purgatives and things to create a cleaner vessel to make more harmonious more resonance more signal-to-noise ratio and that is what to me this is all about and why we are missing out so badly to not be like I see this if God is wanted you got it for not created to nipples I can’t suck both nipples at the same time I tried some women I can do it on I’ve done it and you can do it some women is possible but for the most part so what does that mean what are you do do you limit God or do you just find someone else to be on the left or right side of you you know what is the big deal so when I think about this math equation how many erotic how many out of the box meaning not really the selective like subjective nuanced little erogenous zones that people get overtime in our lives but the out-of-the-box everybody is wired this way count how many erogenous zones you have and how what is the minimum number of mouse penis and genitals or fingers are human appendages required to simultaneously stimulate all those places it’s more than one person I can tell you that much you know so I just want us to start there and be creative in 2N to learn how to understand that we’re missing out and we should be wanting to gamify maximizing human potential for orgasmic pleasure because that is exorcism orgasm equals exorcism in some cultures who are Les Les Mis Sara Lee poetic about the floury discourse of symbols about sex life like a Latin American Shaman is said about her sexuality in the end in her how she explained why monogamous marriage was not really a thing in a culture that permitted extramarital sex and it was that in her mind and I am not going to say her name to cool her but I will say to paraphrase the essence of this wisdom is that to her mind it was just like an orgasm is like taking out the trash and that is not that’s not to say that it is mundane or a chore it is that it is a responsibility of hygiene in your household of your body Temple you need to have orgasms they need to be fulfilling need to get the job done and that is the exorcism aspect of it so the howling screeching all of these things that are considered that witches were burned forming figli sounds that those are the sounds of actual Holiness the set of holy the sound of Holiness is a woman’s orgasm and so let’s make those come more abundantly and let’s utilize map map the erogenous zones out of the box and then map the additional ones that are my favorite song and when you talk to me like this and this certain place I’m in the back of my head there whatever and then everyone has their own map so we can learn each other’s maps and if you don’t know your own map then you can ask people to help you there’s people who would love to lick and kiss and touch you and head to toe to find and explore you and and from a breasted state of consciousness D nice and yes I like to will you bring out the best in me that’s all I think that’s all you guys add that I can’t top that is the way to end so then really that was we didn’t even know that we put the icing on the motherfuking cake by saying you bring out the Best in Me so there was a documentary about at the peak of my desire to become a a rock star in the the crust Punk metal genre grindcore all that fun stuff I was studying that I wanted to understand and clock the music industry so I was watching every documentary I could find understanding music marketing and all the stuff and then I found this great documentary about about Jimi Hendrix and and I believe it was his fiance at a time who later became his wife if I remember correctly and she was talking about the time where he was building momentum and getting lots of gigs but still underground and she said something that stuck with me forever and if this moment which is it basically the hidden tension was used turn Express yeah we we all knew he was going to get sign or we all knew that you was going to take off he was going to blow up and so she said it was just about if someone puts put the icing on the motherfuking cake you know and I know and I felt that we we’re ready for that and we did some we had some we had some ice and get put on a motherfuking cake we did you get you always want more but I look back and I don’t think we could handle more so we got what we got and now I’m on a different I have a different cake I have a different cake mix and I don’t know if it’s that time I don’t know if it’s time to put the icing on the cake or not yeah I don’t know I mean the cake it’s getting cold she heard it mean if you’d if anyone has icing out there can it please be stevia-sweetened go Steven Johnson I don’t know how to hack them will work on that today I know it’s actually what I heard is that it’s a weird additive that they used to cut it because it’s so super sweet that you would basically died of sweetness if you didn’t like the step on it with some other things so I think that’s why I love growing Stevia and having a leaf to munch on and put in the tea because then you know is nothing else being put into it and it’s just as powerful you don’t really need to if you had the the live leaves one leaf enough will be enough to knock your head off for an hour so yeah I know on that snow yeah we’re going to put this devious fresh leave puree motherfuking icing on the cake I will put the icing on my own motherfuking cake that reminds me in 1 minute I just when I thought we couldn’t go out with a bigger bang this is going to be at because there was a a ritual ceremonial I called we called apart emoni where was the Psychedelic birthday party and we smeared cake all over each other and had to basically devour for the birthday gal of her own cake and it was just nipples and asses and I wanted to be in after from there I was my breasts Elsa. Playing for sure that brother and brother best me for sure but that when I got to put the icing on cake my damn self so don’t let anyone fucking tell you that you’re not none of me if you feel like it I mean I think we’re done I just can’t I’m going to fucking drop my phone right now when I might drop my phone on the couch citizen of the count but oh shit it’s next level add icy Cipher geise that’s going to have some cake with that icing okay thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Sexual Self Mastery Training for Men: Behind the Scenes with Destin Gerek TPP195

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In this episode I’m joined by the most seminal and influential male mentor in my life path of tantra. Destin Gerek’s work really set me in motion back in 2009 and there would be no tantra punk had I not been deeply moved by his insights.

As destiny would have it, our paths would cross and we’d discover co-creative synergy over the course of several years. Our mutual aid of each other’s projects and passions resulted in my appearance in his sexual self mastery for men online training course.

To sign up for the course please click here!

We discuss:

  • his journey of personal exploration, research and development of the program, and what he has learned over the years of offering it
  • the behind the scenes of the production of the instructional videos in which I was featured
  • the importance of this work to advance masculinity
  • deprogramming from sex negative culture
  • the outline of the program modules and the theory and philosophy behind the practices
  • sacred set and setting without being too woo woo
  • how women need boys to become men, in bed and beyond
  • how men need to learn to heal rather than wound with their sexuality
  • the need for leadership and men’s groups to help the masculine evolve
  • my experience during the shoot, my intentions and hopes to help men become more conditioned for better love and sex within and beyond themselves
  • the future of erotic media projects we’ve discussed in the past
  • how earlier works in our careers may finally see the light of day

Please listen to our previous podcast at:
https://tantrapunk.com/the-future-of-masculinity-and-erotic-media-with-destin-gerek-tpp53/

Please visit Destin’s websites at:
https://www.evolvedmasculine.com/
http://destingerek.com/

About Destin:
Destin Gerek is an internationally recognized leading voice in masculinity, sexuality, and personal empowerment. The greatest power of Destin’s transformational work is that he embodies it. Destin has taken all that he’s learned, studied, and explored, and integrated it fully into his being, such that he really walks his talk. As host of “The Evolved Masculine: Redefining Sex, Power, & Success” podcast, Destin brings 20+ years of direct study, training and active life experimentation to help you have better sex, deeper connection to your masculine power and understand women and most importantly yourself like never before. Recognizing the need for new role models for men in these changing times, Destin is dedicated to redefining and evolving masculinity for the 21st century. Author of the forthcoming book “The Evolved Masculine: Be the Man the World Needs, and The One She Craves” due out late Summer 2019.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello their beloveds welcome to Township on podcast episode number 195 I’m being joined Again by Destin Garrick a masculine empowerment coach I want to be a redneck reference back to our episode we did a while back now called the future of masculinity and neurotic media with Dustin Garrett that was episode number 53 where we get deep into the backstory the personal history and all of that good stuff so please do refer back to that to get some some more of those personal details what we’re going to focus on today is a discussion of our mutual project that I was blessed to be an actor in and into play some important roles in throughout the process but the real Mastermind and the village is the brainchild of Destin Garrick and is the sexual self Mastery Program which I know has had many evolutions and iterations over time and I am proud to say that I’ve been apart of the the late revamp of that program and it is really one of the most for me a inspiring works of art in and of itself and again the pride I have of being a part of it is is really one of the the highlights of my my life and career so far and I have to bow down to all of those whose whose shoulders that we stand upon a nerve in our past and there and really give the floor now to Destin to tell us all about the history of this program the how it ties in with with his path over time and what you can expect from it if you were to Avail yourself so yeah but that said thank you again for joining Justin please tell us all about it you’re broadcast did you see me once more with your audience and of course just the incredible way in which you showed up during our filming of the sexual self mastery program which I’m going to want to see more about my experience of you during it at some point here but let’s start with the somebody Origins year I started having sex when I was somewhere around sixteen to strive 7:17 and like a lot of men my first couple of times didn’t last very long from there the to get the hang of things and my girlfriend at the time I just remember one time where she was riding on top of me and she started to go into some sort of orgasmic outer space Galactic ride I don’t know what the hell she was doing where she was going eyes rolling back in the head body shaking all sorts of crazy sound coming out of her and I just remember looking up at her and thinking I don’t know what she’s experiencing all I know is I’ve never experienced anything like that before and I want to so I started to explore and look like how how do I experience the and the basic message that I would find is sari candy you can’t yam Wildman have an easier time coming women could you do I explore find deep connection to their sexuality and the experience things their orgasms I are just so far outside of what man can experience and I don’t like the story and a few years later at 19 years old I came across a month like she undergoes Abrams Seminole book The multi-orgasmic Man and I thought I’d stop by the book of course came home serving it and I was like what is this I had a really hard time connecting to it you know it was a 19 year old Jewish white man in America and it was a 67 year-old it is man in Thailand and we have different life perspectives that experiences that was the first sexuality which had its roots has the focus on working with your sexual energy to promote Health and Longevity well let me just tell you at 19 years old I wasn’t thinking about Health and Longevity I was invincible I wanted so I don’t know and I’m looking at these diagrams of a man sitting in a chair and these hours to run up to his body about energy circulation room so I put the book on the shelf and I continued on my past of erotic exploration fast forward a bit and I spent my whole undergraduate years at NYU with a focus around six reality and gender Dynamics well and then start a graduate program at San Francisco State that did not complete I end up dropping out about six months before completion and went to the institute for advanced study of human sexuality where their certification place a logical Bodywork and through that combination of things especially the Bodywork training I became a I started experiencing an ini team about it in such a different way than the way that was described in this book that’s how I started realize I am regularly having experiences in my body that most men don’t even realize are possible and then I had a man in my life in my community essentially who heard about my newfound abilities and asked me to teach him and I was like I don’t know if I can teach you but he insisted and I started having a call with him every week and asked him a bunch of questions and guiding him in some way and within a few weeks is lasting long and they never laughed before and a few weeks after that his first non ejaculatory orgasm and then another one and then another one and another one and essentially and I’m just too much I might have something here over the next year I put together my first liked video training program been called orgasmic Mastery from premature ejaculation smell multiple orgasms and there was a 12-week video training to where we’re basically I reverse-engineer everything that I was doing in my body and started putting out to the world and people started buying and engaging and after about a year of working with people in this way I started to really question okay some guys are not getting very much from this at all and other guys are going from self-described 5 pump chump to becoming you know I’m feeling like I got totally ejected and I started out very curious as to what’s making that difference and I’m sorry calling up these clients of mine and interviewing them and started to get clear like what are those differences that really makes a difference that was 10 years ago so I had 10 years of owning that that process working with now thousands of men through the program making a better and better and better more more effective and you know how ever I also was feeling like I am I spend the first 7 plus years of it teaching people like me sitting in front of a camera talking to them and I got very good at finding the right words and stealing those those those little details that little distinctions of what they should be paying attention to what they need to be doing however I know that at the end of the day monkey see monkey do I just knew that as well as this is working the success rates going to go up when men can actually see what this looks like I just try to wrap their head around it but see in a man in multi-orgasmic States so I got a wish I mean tell me you have you ever whoever’s listening have you seen a man in multi-orgasmic states with all of our lesser of foreign why don’t we see that all right oh damn it then and I I you know through conversation with him I got this really on the staff is really done this work he’s he’s connected to this and you know he’s just he’s not just talk he’s he’s got this in his body I can tell you’re too I get it from the camera so we put together this this whole shoot it was a really incredible experience and we found something really remarkable bring in leg film artist you know folks are really talented behind the camera so that’s why I Look Beauty aesthetic in the art and I also need to know that most men are not going to want to sit and watch another man just touch himself or three months so I also brought in a young woman who has her path but who could be doing the practices as well and we could stay on both of them and interplay the the two videos over one another so that you can both of you were to see how this works in both body and kind of override some a homophobia stuff and I couldn’t have said it better and described it better and that is really it really touches me now thinking about how much refinement and how much thought and intelligence and work has gone into arriving at these very important conclusions about how to how to scale up and transmit this in and really solving that that home Cobia issue overriding that bringing in the overlay of the the female aspect was so Timmy so effective and I instantly got it when when you said that and made total sense to me how much of a deal-breaker will be for for men to sit for 3 plants watching another man touching cervix East Jessamine wouldn’t have a problem with it exactly so now and at this point you have done since that has formally launched in what we might call beta a while things are still being technically ironed out then you’ve had a a batch of initiate suit of experience the full Glory of that of that program so far is that about wrapping okay well do you want to talk about the from your perspective I would love to hear what the before-and-after is for you as the tea now with this this this new tool set the ASL teacher it’s which on the video of the in such a way that the end users in their room with them like speaking directly to him and it’s the video is split into three primary Parts there is like the teaching this is like me speaking to the viewer through the camera this is what you need to know the second part is you is the demonstration has been and Caitlin are female balance on doing the practices again you can see what they are actually like in practice in action we’ve been it often is a kind of advanced version of it something in the reason why I close sexual self-mastery is Master D is a pass this is not these other three tricks to do tonight to be the multi-orgasmic man is a path to walk to something to cultivate what are they now you got to like give it attention every day I’m so giving giving this attention your path of self-mastery using your own body you’re on patrol the as the grounds but you will continue to grow I mean most men masturbate many masturbate every day it is part of your life now for Moosomin arguably it’s stress relief it’s a sleeping aid it’s a distraction from the rest of their life or something or they do because they’re distracted by sex and they just want to like knocked out so I could get back to what they were doing before but it can be so much more than that but that was Jesus frases self-cultivation I in cursive men to develop what I call a practice of erotic self-exploration and this is the differentiated from your typical masturbation I’m already has the reservation at this is what I do because it’s what I do is how I get off and also no tablets are what they’ve been doing for years decades not like since they were you know an adolescent or before and those would generally done to get on with the prime directive of your parents home and you need to get this done quickly and quietly without getting caught this thing is chances are you’re not living in your parents you’re not oh maybe you should have it a different focuses than what you’re doing at 4 and we have certainly not having the kind of control that you really wants a hat and then could ask yourself if you’re still carrying something radio quickly and quietly without getting caught, what type of practice do you really think you’re putting into your nervous system how you train your body do you really believe it’s not having any sort of an impact on that how you showing up when you’re with the printer is I’m having flashbacks to how I developed and why I developed in win the first time in one of your one of your interviews were you made that point I realized how blessed I was personally that my mother was the first time the first and only time she walked in on me if she didn’t bust me for playing with myself she allowed me to get dressed and come out after she had shut the doors do you know if she saw was happening to shut the doors and she walked away and you know I I was freaked out and I was maybe ten 9 or something and remember it very clearly getting put in my my clothes back on and coming out and in and being crestfallen and shoegazing and and she gave me a hug and she said it’s okay that you do that and I was in and and she also spared my foreskin and when we talked about that at some point in my development she said I wasn’t going to have you be mutilated so I had a head start on the left stuff that I have to really thank her for it and so anyone who enjoys the work that I’ve done in this program or or Beyond we all have to get it to thank her for being enlightened in those ways and so I don’t say that to put anybody down Who had who has been circumcised or has been more formally shamed in their erotic self-exploration Journey but I would say it’s please let’s break that cycle now and let’s let’s teach this this sex positive mindset for the Next Generation so we can avoid a lot of the stuff but that’s just a little PSA there I’d love to hear you yet talk more about what is in the modules and sort of give us the Arc of the journey that that The Miz men are taking very well as a particular interest in touch the topic but I do believe that we are very well reach our dropping and and we’re going to see it in the years ahead of sense and maybe not having the right to take a scalpel to somebody else’s body when they are too young to be able to say yes or no to it phone cases that we’re going in a heart in our society and our understanding of things and going to leave to a major decrease there so could you did give us the Arc of the program just outline some of the modules what what is the journey like for those who are experiencing in I’m pulling up so that I get it right so the first the first video is really about deepening your commitments to this path into this program as I saying it is one thing to buy a program is no that’s a truly commit to it earlier this interview I spoke of how how I begin interviewing man of around why it’s just determine why some men are getting great results and some man we’re not and the foundational difference that made the difference what did the man really believe that this was possible and did he believe it was possible for him and so now as I came to really understand how big of a deal that that is really that’s sexual self-mastery I mean I really have to do anything you really want in life that I have needed a major Focus video ones really about activating that places in you at as a man that that can to really understand that the pain and struggle or loss of not having this area of your life as fully dialed as you’d like to and then to really cross that line into into a real internal commitment to doing whatever it takes to create a transformation to get the result that you really desire from there we bring in what I referred to as that establishing a practice of erotic self-exploration out of starting to build a practice into your life that’s like any other practice whether it’s a music practice of sports practice yoga or meditation practice sexuality this this has an interesting fact in itself because I don’t tend to talk about it as much as men do carry their own version of saying around their sexuality and what were essentially saying there is I’m giving you permission in fact encouraging you to set time aside throughout your week to touch yourself and that can be a little bit of a brain short circuit in the best kind of way is on something to drink furtively so they used to sneak around so that you try not to think about who you’re not supposed to be doing a Journal Sentinel time to be with yourself to explore your own body your own pleasure and discover new ways of experiencing arousal in your body I got to move forward faster because I’m video tuned S2000 waking up with full body so men tend to be very disoriented and if you want to teach your body that’s your entire body is part of your sexual experience video for is on types of constructs okay so here we talkin about exploring your body in new ways like what do you mean like myself differently I have to go up down up down I look at porn and then I talked your way we go straight on Ben’s Cox variety maybe 10 different kinds of Strokes that you can bring in to get out of your habits and experience something new then we move into breath breath is incredibly powerful foundational to move Sexual Energy so that charge that you feeling build up in your grind if you don’t want to just pop out you need to give it somewhere else to go to training your nervous system to be able to move that that intensity through the body through the nervous system instead of just staying in your groin and your breath is the first of four primary tools to be used to do so w introduced record a note for no ejaculation challenge hopefully I don’t scare you off with this but we move into a 21-day commitment you would know port and no ejaculation now that can seem like a really big thing or something that whether it’s a no porn part feels really big or an equal in a message to equals corn I would certainly like that for a really long time and then on top of that no ejaculation this is not no fap challenge sound like don’t masterbate infected it’s fleas yes touch yourself and when I can ejaculate and these are the things that we’re going to do instead so you’re essentially retrain your system away from the compulsion to ejaculate I’m pro-choice and most men are not a choice she still gets it’s something that you have to do if you get around so we Wireless vs sarabhai take me to 4th to the 1st intro to it Galatians one of those things that can be like I don’t know about that imagine see under a picture in your in your mind’s eye and we do this is we talked about like building a sexual energy in your groin or just start to play with imagining moving that to the body in different ways and we found which was very powerful and for me and learning to actually not just be the sower quiet dude while my girlfriend’s you know having crazy sounding orgasms but that by opening my own ability to make sounds during sex and with my pleasure for their help me move the sexuality to my body next video Round Lake how to navigate neighbors and roommates stuff like that is really a further exploration of sound as well as overcoming shame stuff with the presents and how I like presents as in being here like not being caught up in fantasy not being caught up in fears or self-criticism maybe I’m too maybe I’m too fat or too skinny or my dick’s not big enough or stupid or or your you know reciting her or him for the manor I have a really fully being in this moment like what is happening in this moment being your five senses when you see hear feel touched your taste and smell and this is where is a real passion comes from your not in your passion when you stuck in your head you’re not in deep intimacy with all the secrets likewise it’s only in that be present that you can feel those subtle Sensations in the body that will allow you to experience these choice choice full-body orgasm orgasm orgasms gives take ravish you know all these are masculine like Edward Yong energies batard are great and fantastic and you know we also need to learn about our Yen. That aspect of being received by allowing receiving pleasure having done to us rather just doing and that I I found that there are many men that who include myself a place whose first experiences of non ejaculatory orgasms came when they were on their back I’m being Fox OC where or receiving had for the matter where they can just put their focus into what they’re feeling in their body rather like feel like that tensing their body needs doing movement then we can be talking Arch has a lot of just like in out in out in out thrusting Jackhammer but really we have so much more available plus our entire body to move in every direction and through opening up moving in our ships in our spine could really but also is our limbs again this helps this Sexual Energy is being built in the groin move freely to the body and then we can also use our hands to help get more in the body to desk is a movement along with your arrival Explorations books for help rid of stagnation in the body and helping start moving when we go deeper into the visualization process how we can use these portals together breakfast sound moving end relation together to really gain Mastery over how to move that Sexual Energy out of the pelvis where he just wants to talk out of it and how do you listen and move it freely and easily through the entire body with for greater pleasure in your own body and to be able to last so much longer and to do her much better experience as well we have an integrated all together we introduce partner practices things that you practice with partner if you have one is the program that was a great overview really it’s I couldn’t ask for a better presentation and knowing it as well as I do now having been is intimately involved with it at this point I really think that is it’s important I’m really going to recommend that people listen to this episode to get that that 16th overview that really wraps it all together and I think anybody it’s been in that the time for the world for however many decades would also appreciate this is the Practical where the rubber meets the road stuff that doesn’t is not dependent on a guru it’s not dependent on buying into a lot of mysticism it’s not it’s not culture-bound this is the universal human physiological template that this this is what passes the scientific sniff test and then so that was my whole point with that is that you know I have nots really deep it’s the esoteric round I have died even to Eastern practices and Technologies and energy systems and all that jazz and I also know that most people aren’t going to do that I need to put a lot of attention and quite honestly took me years to find me ways of really grounding it out that’s that anybody even you don’t need to you don’t need to go to believe in any of that. And that that was a big part of of my focus Ray and then in the production itself there are sacred are elements of a Sacred Space design which hopefully is leaving people salivating for what is that quality is there is an ambient essential quality about the energy of myself the energy of Caitlin and just the of course the temple space the temple home space that we’re in and that ended the residence of that so it’s really I think that is what I hope will happen in in your progression in my profession is that once once men have got this these fundamentals fully dialed in then they will yearn for that that sort of cliffhanger about what is that what is the music doing what kind of music do I use what kind of router what where do where do I shop for incense and where do I or whatever it may be that that kid brings in the leveraging the spirit World in a way that isn’t wooer that isn’t I think that’ll be that’ll be another dimension to explore cuz it’s it’s really all there maybe we could have done this in in a lab or we could have done is it like it was a Masters and Johnson documentary or something but we did it where you brought all those the sacred elements in so that’s maybe something you know I’m sure nobody listen to this podcast is well. Nobody but people are I’m pretty woohoo I’m pretty you know about that but I love to hear you talk about that maybe more about the behind-the-scenes the design that went to at the Consciousness and the sort of quality of the space that you attempt to just I think that you master at sustaining in your own your own production environment shall we say are you asking about it’s what we are filming there’s there’s that yeah we could talk about just what people see in the actual frame and then and then beyond that the sort of what did what are some of Dustin’s secret tips on his Sacred Space design and maintenance Pasa Fino so we did for for the production we did put a lot of attention to creating the environment and I’m part of this is my attention to Aesthetics detail but also part of the the masculine energy throughout history has been as a the holder of space holder of a life creating of a container and so like me and creating a space in which things can happen and unfolding by putting great intentionality into into the creation of the container the greater magic that can happen so we we create a beautiful and sexy sensual environment we also brought in the right people on our crew for both filming and bake a sound and various forms of support so that we are all kind of sharing the same energetic residences we’re holding it the space together we all holding a shared vision of what it is being created and for yeah I don’t know first like we we shot things that I don’t know if anybody’s ever shot before so we need to make sure that we create an environment where both you and Caitlin could actually drop in so that experience could I mean it is actually I don’t think Caitlin every time anything like that before especially in front of a camera crew and all these all these people and a lot of attention need to be put into making sure that that she felt safe and comfortable and he’s as well as long and drawn-out to have two for the deepest sensual and self-expression to come through and then again you did an incredible job after earlier consider what your did acting so much is acting to me stress is like a performance putting on something like this kind of fake and really what the environment that we’re doing our best to create would be one where you could put on something that’s so fucking real you know that it’s so authentic that’s so deeply intimate and vulnerable that’s maybe maybe is more than what you would do I completely on your own if nobody was present I don’t know I don’t know or like when you’re alone and I know that myself and the cameras are running it brings out of more of me and I can give it give it a certain I don’t know Showmanship you could say however more than that it is like I feel like I have seen happen to something that’s that in me that wants to come out that that’s it gives me an excuse and permission to show a more fully and that’s that’s why I fell from you that that you were deeply in your experience and showing up fully and sharing with us a practice that has accrued since we were mostly male true not entirely but mostly we were looking forward to shooting Caitlin you know that 24 year old female but with that you were the one who you’re weird I mean we are collectively and in awe of you during this during this yeah there in the streets I’ve been in my practice in different ways for I don’t know like 12 + years and I side you got a deeper practice and I do just said that how clearly it was that you’re so committed to to this type of sexual self Mastery of exploring and understanding your your sexuality and using it as I don’t know it’s emotional practice I was really what came through to me and in witness and you those are probably the kindest words that have ever been spoken in about me and my life so thank you so much it is it is it is deeply touching to to be acknowledging that way in and I concurred with everything you’re saying and really it is it is such a gift to be in in a context now in the modern world we have these cameras in them that technology kind of amplifies a deeper more ancient experience of a dynamic with group sexuality and group arousal and the I made an analogy of the other day saying by yourself if you’re basically what a banjo but in a group of people you’re you can be a hard if you know you could be part of men have so many of these emergent properties and so much resident come out that it really puts in a context and so it also that want once once I started getting into doing shoots and doing ceremonies in all of this more fun more social sacred sexuality stuff it then that’s when you really go okay now I learned from other people what they were doing and I like that with that like this I didn’t like that and when and then there’s more of a motivation when you are by yourself to be conditioning and training so that at your next opportunity to not just be a ham and perform and try to steal the show but really just to show up and contribute something to assessor sexual potluck that you’ve really you really bringing your highest best and most purified self and if that is the name of the game and that’s really why I feel that this this these practices for me or are really so about that mean when you say devotional for me it’s like he has some devoting to the Divine I’m sacrificing my my shadow element’s and energies to to those deities who would who would digest it for me and then Purify Me and really it’s so that we can I guess In-N-Out in bringing their practical senses so we can have more freedom from the ego and more play time with adults you know and then to have our desires wildest fantasies be fulfilled by people who hurt really understanding and Cooperative other in that just seems to me the reason for the season why to do all the stuff not just so you can be a better self lover or a better lover with within a close couple but hopefully so that we can move towards and evolution where were we are asking each other what’s really troubling us and hurting us some what we could all do to help each other feel a hell of a lot better and so that’s that’s what that’s I guess what what my when I think back into why what was brought out of me and what my we’re really intention is with all this is like we really we need to feed some starving Souls with this this Prana and thus the sexual content and make it more more abundant and less scarce and in so we can share it and it can go to heal those wounds that it did it really can do magic and miracles healing and I know that’s a big part of your path to and that’s something that I think would say way to my next question for you which is how are these evolved men showing up now with women and what are the women saying about how this refined cultivated energy is helping them heal and not just have more mind-blowing orgasms but actually heal that’s where my driving force really comes from I don’t talk about it anywhere near as much when I talk about sexual self-mastery usually if I tend to focus on what it is that man’s really what most men are actually driving for which is they want more and better sex they want to feel like a competent lover are probably the best lover she’s never had and like he’s not just at the whim of his biology but that he’s got two choices and so that’s that’s what I’ve built the program to deliver but in the process can I hear the phrase around like I give you what they wants all of the kind of can slip in what is they really need for sure so yeah I mean this whole program dizzy rewiring of male sexuality the me-too movement if it’s been any things that giant mirror to us as man that’s maybe we’ve received some slow flawed programming when it comes to our sex and this head this program yet it’s a it’s women women wants a man to actually be able to steal her to feel what’s going on for her and to be able to respect her her body’s needs and Truth is and some that feel it’s been largely missing from this conversation is one of the reasons why men have such a hard time with us is because they don’t know their own body they don’t know their own needs they don’t listen to the messages that are happening from within how are they going to do that with another person and so that’s part of what ends up happening in this sexual self-mastery process is the man does get in a deep connection with his own body she does come to listen to things that are happening in his body that he otherwise is probably completely unaware of and through developing that subtle awareness it becomes so much easier and natural for him to awareness of subtleties of what’s going on for her and to react accordingly and that can be a profound and deeply healing experience for her all again you have a way of making of the stuff that to me is off and way too far out and unrelatable and making it so so grounded so relatable and something that I think any sex educator on Earth any anyone who administers to me the the catching up we have to do in the United States with some of the progressive policies happening in sexual public health and in public service were going on in places I know there are there are European countries that have Pro masturbation Outreach pamphlets and then there’s places in the world where you will not get fired as the attorney general for suggesting that masturbation is a good way to to lower a HIV transmission and whatnot and interesting thought is that have you in your I’m sure you’ve just now that now that this iteration it is is reaching the point of being ready for Primetime roll out and brainstorming about Foo how and what Serta marketing efforts and strategies that both of us are going to have you know I have full disclosure we’re running this for my minor as an affiliate commission sales deal for me to get this out there so if I can if I can beat Destin to a sale I will get myself a healthy chunk of the profit so I’m incentivize to get this out there for and widen and honestly this is going to up my game a lot because now that this exists and I can participate in the the profit sharing then I’m going to aim much higher into the the it with the podcast it to reach up into this higher echelons of of men that and this is affordably and reasonably priced I must say and for those who are who are abundant at those levels I’m going to start bringing those people on the show cuz I know they all have we all have this sort of Skelton deposit but but back to my question line of questioning about have you who who would you who would you like this program to be purchased by let’s say at the institutional level you know would you like this program to be quote-unquote in the curriculum of various sex education institutes and and non-profit ngos and things like the the Woodhull foundation and get it submitted to academic conferences and where would you find this having a home Beyond just the squeeze page sales funnel get guys to the you know to park my tiny thank you for the ideas I definitely want haven’t you know at this point I’ve decided long ago to use business is my vehicle took for a change in the world and I downloaded the more of that I create and I’m able to bring in revenue from sales of whatever it is the more resources I have to create even greater things and on and on that side so you know I’ve just add focus on what else I can create and what types of boy other business people and yours can I partner with to help get this out but as far as foundations and such organization to be the value of this need even add pieces the day that they would like to see as well again I mean I think it’s I think it’s pretty widespread understood that this point that’s there’s something around the culture of men and how we relate to our sexuality that is in dire need for an evolution and upgrade and you know women are certainly making that clear demanding for the change and the like multi-orgasmic Epiphany is he could say I was in a relationship with an incredible woman who was deeply connected to her feminine and her expression as a performer types of circus girls sometime stripper she really wanted me to be more in touch with my masculine that I was in at that time I’m in my late twenties and she sometimes encouraged it but much more often she demanded it she made it extremely uncomfortable for me to be anything but that and on I didn’t like that at the time it’s either side is uncomfortable however in retrospect it was an incredible gift for me it did evoke change in me discomfort like you know men have experienced quite a bit of it over the past year-and-a-half transformation one more comfortable nothing is a change this is fine more uncomfortable and increasingly uncomfortable we can hit that point where I’ve got to do something I cannot be in as I can’t be in this any longer something has got to give and change happens Zillow Zella a lot of the voices that are coming up in the women’s empowerment aside right now or are quite often not quite often the are on the demanding side quite often they are and they looked like this is not okay and making things extremely uncomfortable and I I just want to say that it took me awhile but I really did come to a place where I came so relate to it as a gift it forced me to look inward if forced me to see what what what is often mean what it what what is the value that that I can experience from actually doing the hard work that’s you know it can be so resistance to doing the do the hard-working and grow and I did I did girl it’s sparked something in me that’s never stopped you know now I’m turning 41 on Friday to few days and you know I like 13 is that relationship and it left such a powerful mark on me because she made it very clear like you got you got to stop being a boy and you stuck into being a fucking man I need a man be that man and I learned how to be a man and forever grateful well that none of such a beautiful story and what a way to take a poop this hour and I think if we were a kid too hard for 6 ourselves Brothers out there we all know that we’ve been we’ve been voted a few times and had to question whether we’re we’re getting our male archetypes from so that Minds me I’m getting a bit of a flashback here to just kind of come through clothes now so do you want to talk about how this this program fits into an arc of of other modules of a of a program that is the evolved masculine past and what else you have to offer in the the what else you offer in general and and how this program fits into those other offerings and then I will get your websites in and close out all you probably recognize my life’s purpose and the anyway so I had in addition to the sexual self Mastery Parts I would say that there is three major areas thoughts of me and the company that is spelled p Volve masculine hours have been around a sexual self-mastery area is going to call evolve masculine empowerment again we’re at a time right now people speak of the crisis in masculinity men use women are rising in their power and too many men are either married or resentful discover a what a healthy evolved masculinity is and what are the aspects of our of his own relationship to self the way he thinks about himself as a man that actually is Old Blood programming and time to let go of and one of the aspects of masculinity and being a man that are actually really worth giving more attention and strengthening deeper and then it’s a really Envision a version of yourself like all your evolve Master creation imagine a version of yourself who has become the evolved masculine man with a healthy integration of you in a few minutes and then what do we need to do to help clear that Gap from where you currently are so where you are fully embodied in living as him the third module is what I call a understanding women in the feminine again like a lot of men don’t really understand women don’t really understand what’s going on collectively or the particular woman in their lives plenty of women will Hurd lived experience so you can show up in a way that’s not about losing Anythink in yourself yet too often we speak about these things this is this it’s a zero-sum game that’s like that men and women are in the battle of the sexes and one of them is going to come out on top and it doesn’t have to be that way you know there is a way in which we can Embrace her rise in power in a way that actually inspires us to become more what we’re capable of bb-8 see yourself more clearly and rise up alongside of her so she can heal fully mess it what are intellectually emotionally sexually spiritually yeah we’re we’re not there it’s a nice ass bending but actually becoming more and I process awesome and I can say that having done the on-site group fully present Retreat modules in the in your evolve some program I can speak from experience that the there is no there is has been nothing more unifying and empowering and and evolving of all words for me than sharing a space in the end I know every man who every man and go see that is got to feel some degree that sense of wishing that this this retribalization of the masculine would never end in that we would never break from that that core of a shared strength and shared understanding and and having each other’s backs and and supporting each other and having that very very very real and enduring open space so if you want to pitch that it for a minute just the different ways that that you can Show Yourself there’s the saint beasts online programs and it private coaching group and all that so what is the C-section so if you’re a practitioner coach in somewhere by yourself and you work with men whether your man or woman was named where we run a evolved masculine leadership training to constrain certified evolve masculine coaches once a year I believe next movie this fall the sexual assault Mastery Program itself I believe we’re using evolved masculine. Com which is the base where you can find everything I’m in Flash FFM sexual self-mastery will it will bring me to tell Paige to learn more about that and how you can get that in as well I think that’s been clearly uses direct link so I can finish him and in that process and are otherwise different some reason you miss that let me know you found it through this pain cancer through the we are in the process of developing a an online evolve masculine membership community so this will be a low-cost monthly membership community so that’s bringing together 10 remaining connection with one another and continue to receive value where we can create things for for you all with myself directly as well as the wide range colleagues and guess that and I bring in a monthly so that’s I believe we’re going to be launching that somewhere around to three months from from the time of this recording so and it’s April now to some sometime this summer began evolve ask alarm.com so you can just shoot me a message through and reach back out to you roll up another call with you to see what direction is going to be most appropriate for you and and without you can just get it onto my email list through any of any of those pages so that you can continue to be outside we’re here for you awesome well is there anything else you would like to share any words of advice for me on Facebook with Dustin gyrich revolve masculine and prayer for you always want to remind you that that’s our sexuality is it is our Phalanx Peds beautiful Alexa your your masculinity has power and Beauty in it as well and there’s yester sinks the intersect on hands and the best ways that we can I grow and spines are away is in the AC is with the support of the other men who are on a similar path you are just as committed to help hold you toward your highest you can hold you and your vulnerability while also continuously calling you into a deeper strength that’s where you’re at where it’s available to you never stop exploring and evolving yes I’m okay actually won final bonus round if you have time for it final question would be if we were to let’s say you if you and I were to collaborate on a another project either within the the big tent of your brand in your program or something within my realm or someone else’s production realm what would your fantasy be of what we could do together next to them in the future you don’t creating when I called conscience erotic media just two studs are our poor and model is not that great you know I know see my own path that we have so much more available to us so much money as possible as soon as you would have so much more pleasurable actually for both of us and one in like and and you know I can’t learn to my various experiments that I’m actually really good at producing address two dates as I know but I am getting some signs but the pieces are coming together and you know I don’t like to tease you too much cuz we talked about this many times but if if this does come back together and then the near-term of course you’re at the Forefront of my mind been and you’re at the Forefront of my mind because of this whole time I thought you were talking about you were going to release the secret files from back in the day that you’ve done with the some some lovely Vixens and also synonym for an elders and I don’t know if that ever doesn’t ever see the light of day but Friday videos to to somebody in New York on his test week early ones in like 2011 and they’ve held up really well. They still look pretty freaking amazing and still look utterly one-of-a-kind like unlike anything I’ve also seen out there again at the further kick in the ass to me that on that we’ve got that we got something we need to do something with it yeah maybe it maybe it was a time capsule or something I guess I’m I’m learning that lesson in more ways than one that the I’m really looking back at this in this is just maybe a side note here but but also has something to to close on with a Vibe it’s just that I have to be so I just feel so thankful to the energy of my youthful energy and and the application of that when it was when it was there an as the Arc of masculine hormones the The Arc of just our lifespan and energy levels I think you and I really made an end run when we had a lot of we still have a lot of passion energy but but there is a quality of it that invincibility of it that not thinking too far in advance and just getting shit done and now we’re really being able to curate the museum that was our youthful projects and that is very interesting and fun and they’re still so much that both you and I can do in front of and behind the camera but we both have some glorious moments that I just managed and so hopefully we will we will get to enjoy that stuff and we will appreciate that the Divine timing of the great mystery and all that too so we continued he and I continue to get older and younger we shot and create some really incredible things including with each of us on camera and that’s on now that’s now that we’re older more established maybe it’s time to go back and find ways to put those together and create something but can go out into the world in and indeed indeed will good Cliffhangers in great stuff all of this stuff is so beautiful and so amazing to me and it’s been it’s been yeah it’s it’s been a while since we’ve talked and hopefully the next time will be sooner rather than later and we’ll have great news to share and things will just keep snow falling in a really good way and I also thank you brother it is been great to get to know you and connect with you and it really is an important moment that that we’re in now with with this program and I can’t wait for the next adventure to a full then just want to be a wish you a wonderful rest of your afternoon and I wish you the best thank you my friend to you as well as for being bring me into the apart of the sand again everyone I can ask alarm.com Hutchins check out the link slats likely attached to this podcast and see how soon thank you all right take care of bye bye thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at target.com Thomas Day

Proof of Love Ep. 7 Tantric Sex with Ben Tantra Punk Rebroadcast TPP193

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Ben Tantra Punk PicIn this episode I share a rebroadcast of my interview on the Proof of Love podcast, below is the original show notes, please subscribe to Proof of Love!

What can one say about a crypto tantric episode other than wow.  This is our spiciest Proof of Love yet! Ben Tantra Punk joined Stephanie and I to discuss this ancient practice.  In between a few laughs and blushes, we get a great overview of tantric lovemaking, how it’s different from regular lovemaking, the history of why there is tantric sex in the first place, and the joys of the female orgasm.  We went a bit over on time, but I don’t think you will mind with this subject matter! We need more love in our lives, and this episode will show you how to put some of these teachings into practice, even if calling each other goddess in bed is a little uncomfortable.

About the Guests:

Ben Tantra Punk is a sex worker, feminist porn performer, certified permaculture designer, certified tantric counselor, author, film maker, and recording artist. He’s found healing and empowerment through sacred loving arts, ecological gardening, shamanism, ecstatic trance dancing, martial arts, and open source technology. His ongoing independent short film series, Sexorcism the Tantric Opera, was launched in early 2017. It tells his story of recovery from childhood sexual trauma, adolescent sex trafficking, and the path of a wounded healer. His first book, Psychedelic Goddess Worship: Erotic Memoirs from the Astral Battlefield, is planned for release in late 2019.

He loves to help tantric seekers discover the infinite source of divine love from above, the eternal power and wisdom from the Earth below, and the bliss of conscious, healthy, diverse romantic relationships in between. He provides private coaching and counseling sessions online and in-person, and teaches publicly via livestream on the Ethereum powered SpankChain camsite at: https://beta.spankchain.com/TantraPunk His writings, music, podcasts, videos and contact info can be found at https://www.TantraPunk.com.

Do you have a burning question, or a show idea for us?  Please email us at tatiana@proofoflovecast.com!

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 194 I am being joined by Brian s gross of BSG public relations and he is such a jaw-dropping about page I just decided I really do this but I decided I definitely want to read this to really put the context in here because with with it that the merging of the technology space in the adult industry space and actually to give a little bit of backstory on this we connected now it’s been about 4 years or so since first actually started putting out a press release and seeking really advisement and consult consultation within the the the pr companies within the adult industry to see if there was any possibility to get some traction doing this sort of shamanic pornography and feminist porn kind of brand that I’ve been trying to develop mixing my music and video production and ethics and politics into media and so I have really been kind of putting The Feelers out into the space and Brian gave me some feedback back in the day and we have serendipitously reconnected recently and so I thought why not let’s have a butt supposed to connect in in this podcast domain and again I’m astounded by what he’s accomplished in some of the parallels in our Journeys here so I’m just going to go ahead and read the about page and then we’ll get started with the interview so Jared is BSG public relations takes a precise and strategic approach to promoting all facets of entertainment and efficient and motivated staff handles everything from intricate details of executive with City to positioning our clientele within compelling and effective media campaigns Street marketing teams and Creative Marketing efforts BSG public relations handles all avenues of communication is bringing your study to approach to marketing media and public relations with Creative Solutions that furthers the message & image of our clients we handle everything from the intricate details of executive publicity to positioning clients with compelling media campaigns we look to broaden and brand artist companies and products multi-level publicity campaigns combined with knowledge and background in every facet of entertainment media and communication the most importantly always putting the client first Brian Gross president of BSG PR has been in the service of media and public relations for over 26 years gross has been employed by company said Steve American recordings Warner Brothers records reprise records Elektra Entertainment Group Vivid Entertainment Group and such organizations as the Lollapalooza tour Brian Gross was an executive producer for Rio TX the search for Adam and Eve his background includes all facets of public and media relations working with some of the largest businesses celebrities and music acts in the world Brian thank you so much for joining me on the podcast and please tell us all about your personal Journey how did you get into this position of such influence and expertise school is my senior year and I’m a I’m a big Sports person as well and I was not good enough to make the varsity basketball team but wound up helping out with the younger teams and I want to getting fired for verbally assaulting a referee who completely screwed up a game and all of a sudden I had free time and I literally took out my CD collection which I know that sounds so funny in this day and age but went through it and started calling record labels and pretty much got blown off by many of them because I was a senior in high school they were looking for college kids and one label an independent label def American the girl who answered the phone was in the PR department and she still one of my best friends to the stay cuz she called she I said come in for an interview and before I knew it I was driving after school three days a week from Newbury Park California to Burbank to make press kits and learn all about the music industry well that is exciting so what were some of the what what are some of the bands in an album is like what were you into at the time I was definitely a classic rock kid a NuWave and I just wasn’t you know I was sort of what the radio fed me so you know I hadn’t really branched out as far as my music likings were concerned and you know early 90s you know 90 to 91 92 you realize just how there was no such a divided because you know really popular stuff was extremely poppy you were on the end of sort of the metal era you had this grunge thing happening you had this sort of underground music thing happening you had punk rock obviously happening but I grew up in the suburbs and and it just didn’t resonate with me at the time you know then you go to a record label and you start going through the CDs and you just start this massive Discovery and bands walk in and you meet people and you spend time with artists and musicians and it just completely through open a world that I was you know I was aware but I wasn’t aware to that extent and it was pretty exciting to just see the variety especially at this specific record label the variety of of music that was being put out and and how exciting it was awesome so from there so what how to tell us the story of how you evolved from the doing stuff mostly in the music and more and more General entertainment business into the adult industry which I see you have a lot of accolades from so I I mean I work my way up in the record industry from 93 to 99 I I was took a couple internships than an assistant job than a West Coast tour tour publicist West Coast Regional tour publicist job and then I saw what Napster was doing and I realized you know as a as a low man on the totem pole in the satellite office for record label I better figure something out and literally fell in my lap where two people one of which had this specific that had this position and and the other was the brother of the owner of the company hit me up and said hey you know you should interview for this job that’s going to open up to be the head of PR and marketing for a company called Vivid which I was obviously very familiar with as a young male and so the money was a lot more and the opportunity was there and it was just one of those things I was 23 and I wasn’t going to say no I couldn’t pass it up so I became the head of PR and marketing for Vivid Entertainment in the spring of 99 while you were busy absorbing all of this until from the corporate world and very established Enterprises and then you’re building essentially what will become your your own personal company and brand can you tell us about some of the some of the lessons you learned some of the highlights of of your journey along that way if kind of building your own becoming an entrepreneur as opposed to an employee working for Stephen her she had a very hands-off approach you know he wanted me to practice the way I had learned doing publicity at the record labels and bring that same approach to the adult film stars that were under contract with this company and to the company itself so I really had this sort of open book of you no opportunities and and and really just publicizing a a massive brand his thing was don’t spend any money which you know you laugh at but it was pretty when you when you eliminate budgets and you have to be creative that’s that made you have to work relationships in and put ideas out there and look for opportunities that I think in this day and age we wouldn’t even think twice about it but at the time we’re pretty groundbreaking you know so you know what that in mind it just became abaa I learned so much from that that when I went on my own I took sort of his entrepreneurship of run Dino of starting and running a massive adult entertainment company with what I learned is being a publicist and I’m just sort of found my way I had some incredible mentors the forest publicist go ahead incredible mentors who you know I went to when I started my company said how to what am I doing how do I do this you know and they were so giving and and so just easy you know so open Armon and I’m just taught me so much in a really short. Of time to where I was just off and running and getting clients and doing what I’ve been doing what I could I mean for me getting up every day and doing my job isn’t necessarily hard and I think I’m fortunate that I have that s Ellison and work ethic that I know is very challenging for many people but you know I just learned quickly I could get a lot of clients and and synergize and and do a lot for them and and just sort of Broad and from there awesome yeah I’m having flashbacks to reading a book called guerrilla marketing back when I was doing start up stuff and and it really did get a budget mattered so you had to teach you had to be creative and you had to think out-of-the-box so I can I can resonate with that and I remember one of a CEO for a company I work for has said you know the difference if there’s a difference between marketing and PR and marketing is what you say about yourself in PR is what other people say about you and you really really want to have that that perspective that that’s where the third person perspective in your printing and copying in to have it buffering so that the artists and the company’s don’t aren’t doing all of that he’s some kind of damage control I guess you could say and sometimes they just that stuff that Shameless self-promotion that people people can see through it on the on the receiving end and then on the giving end you’d rather not be tooting your own horn so much so it’s a really vital function that you play in the in the ecosystem of have any kind of business and I love to hear about just soap for people who aren’t that well versed in what a publicist does it would appear our company does tell us about the sort of day today and I’m kind of break it down for people who might not know famous for a living right you know the longer sort of breakdown of that is you know celebrities Brands companies hire a publicist to get there messaging in there and what they have to sell out there to the media which is then you know red watched listen to buy hopefully millions and increases sales increases exposure and increases the the growth of of whatever the brand or the company or the person is so it’s an aspect of marketing but it’s solely deals with sort of the public Persona and then obviously the media which radio TV print and online are the four basics of that and obviously they in this day and age you know what you know podcast would kind of be filed under radio but it’s also online it’s audio but there’s there can be a video component that can be a a written component so you have a lot of Lines Blurred when it comes to the media nowadays and I just think for me it’s important for my clients in this day and age there’s so much opportunity there so many ways to get your message out there and you know me and you know my team and and myself we look to find those opportunities finals relationships and and do everything we can for clients to to accomplish the goals that they have female except for us how’s your job gotten more difficult at all or more challenging in the age of social media where you have the potential for celebrities to put their foot in their mouth to and create these Mega backlashes online that you kind of do have to do some some damage control on that do you have any thoughts what the the social media landscape has done for your industry herself you know social media gives you a way to do a more immediate Outreach but sometimes you have to be careful clients have to be careful what they say out there you know what I work more left-of-center stuff where you know I’m not working conservative projects that you know they have to be really careful what they say but certainly at I work with clients that you know we talked about messaging and we talked about what they put out there and make sure we’re on the right we’re on the right track and we’re in agreement and on the right path but I think social media you know I think it’s it’s positive it’s certainly a life-changing things it certainly has changed the landscape of society and and whatnot on a larger scale but you’re not the end of the day we all are just fascinated by other people and they do so it just open doors opens doors in that respect what do you know actually makes me think about how it made some sense you talking about Dimension to have the image of Tower Records on Sunset and I’m just the decline of the record industry and all of the digitization of all kinds of media and how that took a big chunk out of profits for a lot of folks in an industry but when I based on what you were just say no actually realized you might think that the same thing would happen to PR once people could become demigod celebrities on social media by themselves but the reality is they probably need to hire a publicist more than ever because you need that filter right you need that you need someone to advise you on on the strategies of how you express yourself because it’s so easy to just fire something off that just Neo take sweat they say it could take 5 years to build a career in 5 seconds to destroy rights and all I would add to it is you know you need you need someone in my position when you have something that is so public and you need someone that can help you because a lot of times there is a lot of Crisis and a lot of people don’t know what to do and we’ve certainly witnessed over the years when when things go wrong or how you know when things are handled poorly and you know we live at a time where the media is constantly attacked so they’re going to attack that so you want to be on the right side of things and you want you know if you want to handle your media aspect as professionals possible and it’s there are challenges you know I’m not a brain surgeon this isn’t brain surgery by any any respect but it’s an important part of the marketing and sales aspect and the overall brand awareness of who you are and what you’re trying to accomplish yeah I think that was a good real basic intro and overview and just kind of hammers hammers in that this part of the ecosystem of success as a creative artist is not is not going away in or should it and so it was it is a breath of fresh air and I think about it a lot I think about a lot how how to moderate myself and there’s a lot of fear and and hesitation in this climate of you know you can really you can really put your foot in your mouth so I I I think it says probably at yeah it’s it’s been on my mind you know this whole your sector of industry and where it’s at so this is timely for me until I guess I would say to be somewhat selfish for a moment here with the last few minutes I would say that I guess bringing this back to what my my unique value proposition is to the world as my representing myself and my brain really it is I guess it is kind of element in a way I’m saying sexuality and pornography and all forms of of music and art they can all actually be very healing and very therapeutic and there’s almost a bias against that because people sometimes in some sense people want to just have really either extremely kind of edgy entertainment that just gets them off sexually or titillates them or sort of just appeals to that Hollywood sense of just completely not necessarily that intentional or that healing or that spiritual and so there’s kind of a bias against what I’m offering which could be seen his kind of all you’re you’re just a goody-two-shoes you’re kind of a mama’s boy you want people to be meditating and doing yoga and actually it might my sort of reply to that that biases that actually know what what some of the practices that are done in shamanic Sexual Healing Sarah on your work are actually equally if not more extreme and in and actually riveting and and put you on the edge of your seat as is anything that would be considered danzo or Triple X Ino Xtreme Hardcore and it really is Hardcore to be doing some of the more spiritual aspects of sexuality so when I I put out a press release I don’t know if that was the one that you saw or if that was a wet what the time frame was around that but I would just say to you do you think there is a niche for what would I would call shamanic pornography or porn that intense did not only educate but also to promote healing and healing from trauma and and what not yours if not longer you know when I first got in the industry as far as adult entertainment goes is very one-dimensional especially the media coverage and it was all about getting eyeballs because you could use the word pornography in a way that you know people be like oh what what it what are they going to talk about and then then then there was a change in the change happened when media like Vice came along and media like BuzzFeed and and other media that said to a certain extent and we’re not going to just treat this as one-dimensional because it isn’t a one-dimensional discussion it is in a one-dimensional product you know as as the adult industry expanded I found it interesting that the media expanded in their coverage and you have certainly the negatives does the word in general is certainly looked at in a negative way and I rarely use it I say it because of that is once you say that word and it’s you know maybe one day it’ll be changed or looked at not as this glaring sing but as a form of entertainment form of Education a form of you know healing as as you as you work on but the media look to do more coverage and be more multi-dimensional and to what you’re trying to accomplish and what you’re doing what you’re doing and what you’re trying to accomplish to my point is you can find media that’s not easy but you can find people you can find writers you can find me there you can find public entities you can find people that will want to discover what you are doing and will want to make others aware and will want to build the foundation and build a fanbase in and build a unit around it so which is not the issue these days the issues speed of time and the issue is just sort of the you know overwhelming amount of media that we deal with everyday especially in our current political climate where we’re being overdosed with one piece of toxic news after another and end toxic not men the political fashion just met met you know we’re bombarded with different types of briefs and stories and just aspects of life that can that are just so fast and furious and you’re trying to fit in there you know you’re almost trying to swim upstream and place you know place your story on a rock while well water keeps hitting in the face so I I I constantly am taking on opportunities and clients and different types of niches and different types of products and different types of stories because I know who’s to say that I know what a media person will want to write about or not I don’t what I do is I give them the opportunity and I find out hey is this is this interesting do you want to do this do you want to cover this and it’s yes or no or mid might be a maybe or they’re on the fence or they’ll think about it and we did we discuss it and see what happens so it’s just a the media is a constant River at its its 24/7 its domestic and international you know stories can break anywhere in the world and then just travel the speed of light and around the globe and become as you know become viral so it’s just a it’s just the the effort and the Mine Song of people in your position as to am I ready to take this Challenge on I’ve something Niche I’ve something unique but I think it’s important and and how do I get it out there and and what you know how many people can I turn on to what I have to build from from where I’m at well those are profound words of wisdom and I’ve got chills because I know that at some point I have I’ve got two to cross that and make that leap of faith sand and be willing to be criticized and be willing to be sued and be willing to be all kinds of things and having that team and I feel like the podcast has been a tool to to kind of build that team and to know if there is a you know what keeps me up at night is what happens if there is an influx of capital what if there is a viral content piece that get 50 goes out and it’s not that you become rich and famous overnight at you is that you become suddenly under the microscope and you need to know about compliance with a lot of things and so that that’s my Virgo mind getting getting very sort of The Fearless aspect where I try not to overthink even though it’s impossible but I just I just try and push you know you just you know I I’ve constantly at a career of why not you know why not internet a record label why not internet another one why not drop out of school you know cuz it was just wasting time and money you know and then why not become an assistant why not become a tour publicist why not go to an adult entertainment company Why not start your own PR Company why not work with Gene Simmons you know it’s you know if you can answer why not then there’s no reason you know and you know we always I’m a Star Wars junkie and I think you might be in the same generation or not but we all sort of live by the the words until the age of of Yoda and so you try not you do or you don’t you do not but you just don’t try to go for it and you know there’s certainly you you think things out and they’re processing is calculated risk and what not but I’ve always another mindset where if you if you’re if you’re thinking too much about it then it’s just time wasted you know you’re not pushing forward and what you’re trying to accomplish but once you get past that you know and and you’re not going to know if I sitting around thinking you’ll never know if it takes off or not you just won’t it is the action and it is the risk that you have to eunos put out there and find out if you have something or not and you know I definitely I’ve had all kinds of clients I really have and I’ve had successes clients it succeeded sold our company and made lots of money and I have clients that failed you know but it just nothing worked and Company disbanded and I’ve got you know hundreds of files of clients over 19 years and but they all they all went for it you know wherever they are you know there’s somewhere you know that they took a risk and even when I produced a reality show you know what they say it was a risk I was a two-year process to even get to production but once you know once we decide we’re going to do it my partners and I at the time of that production company we just put her head down and we weren’t going to give up and we got the parties involved then it did well could have done better but it did well exist in there broke a lot of ground but it’s definitely important you know there’s just that dividing line of doing something and in what it is that hold you back from from going for it yeah I hear you there is just kind of wrap up here to respect your time and then I will just say that again More Chills and more of just that that cause mcnab’s you know there was there is one Flagship I guess I would say it was for me was like the pilot episode of the series that I’m doing now it’s called sexorcism the tantric Opera twitch wow Google Keyword that I want to fully on because a lot of without weather so I can get is an album is a band that did an album called sexorcism there’s there’s a kind of I don’t know if it’s play with the idea but but what I’m bringing to it is it is definitely from a pure-hearted place of sincere documentarian work and so hopefully that’s I think what’s going to be what I would put money into an invest in to try to get some some media coverage on and I’ve been a little bit shy about it now for a couple of years just wanting to not be the one to push that in people’s faces but that’s exactly the layer of buffer that I need of someone to say hey look take it or leave it this is what this guy’s doing here it is and if I can have that someone like you help me with that then I think it’ll be it’ll be a dream come true so we will we will talk offline about what your thoughts are for the trajectory of a project like that but I would love to discuss obviously well and I look forward to having that discussion and obviously I appreciate being on your podcast in and you know getting to have this kind of discussion I think I ain’t got to a certain extent I think people you’re right don’t really understand publicity and public relations and media relations and you know marketing to a full extent but I think it’s you know having the conversation and getting the opportunity to talk about it even one person goes wow that’s interesting I want to I want to know what that career is you know something I’m always interested in doing it you know making people aware of the career and path I chose the life I chose and you know going from there well I’m sure there’s a lot of people who would say as they received the rewards that they couldn’t have done it without you and so hopefully I will be able to join those ranks sooner rather than later and again and again thank you for reaching out to me as very synchronistic yeah let’s let’s be in touch do you want to tell people where to find where to find your work and just yeah side BSG pr.com and my Twitter and my Instagram RBS GPR and it’s financials at when I made the company name it was like well we’ll just Brian Scott gross of my name and BSG are my initials and public relations and it was just a simple as that so I guess I was another thing I learned of like trying to keep you know keep it linear and you’re hiring me and so that’s where a Vsepr came from awesome alright will Brian thank you again so much that I had a great time and can’t wait to get to know you better and move on from here so thank you so much again and have a great afternoon thank you you as well look forward to catching up with you again real soon all right take care of podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email bad at Tantra Punk. 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Sexorcism the Tantric Opera Episode 11 “Psychedelic Goddess Worship”

 

The Path of Sacred Sexuality Leadership with Erikaa Briones TPP189

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Erikaa Briones PicIn this episode I’m joined by the exalted fellow sacred sexuality educator Erikaa Briones for an enlightening adventure of personal transformation and empowerment.  She shares deep personal accounts of overcoming trauma and transmuting pain into power.  Along the path of her hero’s journey she was blessed with great allies.  She received transmissions of spiritual wisdom and truths that helped to accelerate the rediscovering of her inner and ancient divine sexual priestess.  Her cinematic narrative is the stuff of best sellers.

She provides an overview of her qualifications, services, and offerings and provides a warm invitation to reach out to her for guidance and support no matter where a seeker is at in their journey. She’s developed a wide variety of gifts that serve the diverse needs and desires of her clients.

We discuss goddess archetypes, business development for sexual healers and educators, the intersection of traditional and modern methods of goddess worship and much more.

Please visit her online at:
ErikaBriones.com

Collective. Her mission is to spread stories of love and sexuality by collecting different views around the world starting with her Mexican heritage . She also aims to collaborate with other ethical and conscious brands like PMSbox. Erikaa’s passion is empowering heart-centered men looking to unlock sexual confidence at a level they never thought possible.

Erikaa has been featured on Kaleidoscope radio, and interviewed social media icons like Adina Rivers, Adam Roa, and Stef Stifanos. A few of her guest have over 200 million views on YouTube. Erika’s personal crucible story is of the “return of the joyful little girl” A typical story most women can relate too where they were victimized by incest. In Erikaa’s experience she was the joyful little girl til 1993 where the actual storm and metaphorical storm hit her life. That was the year she learned to become a woman. She was also put into a cult by a Freemason, and overcame severe trauma that affected her health and sexual confidence. In her late mid 20’s she was searching for an awakening. Little did she know Tantra, and BDSM lead her down the path of transformation. Now she motivates other to discover sexuality through a place of inspired-action and love. She is now living her dream life and healing others that they can also transform their crucible story into sexual liberation.

In the show we discuss:

  • occult sexual initiation and the conditioning she had to overcome
  • double life as a sex worker
  • dominatrix work in Beverly Hills
  • 1 in 3 live a sexual double life
  • the hero’s journey
  • how the character leaves the village, leaving the good girl for the family identity, then going on adventures
  • the discovery of bdsm, escort work, tantra initiation
  • going into the belly of the beast
  • fighting inner and outer battles
  • the experience of opening up and coming out the world about her path and mission
  • the path to becoming a sexuality coach
  • coaching men in sacred sexuality
  • how being yourself in the context of sexuality is pretty scary
  • you may not know who you are in the moment
  • your family might disown you
  • you may feel alone
  • starting out working in bad conditions in a dark hole in the wall
  • finding salvation at a local book store
  • finding friendship there
  • the Pretty Woman movie plot as a fantasy for many sex workers
  • the dream of being rescued by a white knight
  • owning slutness
  • finding a client who was a prominent actor
  • Cinderella meets the Prince, with a plot twist
  • her tantric initiation by a her client
  • discovering tantric prayer, sex magic, devotion to nature, mindfullness, meditation
  • feeling honored
  • her inspiration from a motivational seminar and her path to leadership
  • how we start out seeking a guru and eventually we become one
  • becoming her own guru
  • discovering yab yum and kundalini energy work
  • discovering breathwork and chanting
  • remember past lives, reawakening her inner ancient priestess
  • the power of the left eye
  • downloading info from your tantric lover to your hard drive, your soul drive
  • feeling that we’re all one, feeling union in the present moment
  • evolving past the archetype of the needy lover, seeking external validation through sex
  • growing into the mission to change the ancestor codes, change family patterns
  • the social purpose to end abuses, violence, etc.
  • the need to be congruent with what your speaking about
  • doing your own inner work
  • the role of journally
  • personal meditation practice
  • going to tantra festivals
  • not about being better, more about being different
  • becoming your own muse
  • doing your modality on yourself
  • overcoming the fear of speaking
  • fine tuning your messaging
  • coming from heart centered values
  • mature love, spirituality, how deep can we go down the rabbit hole
  • you must really do the inner work
  • recoding messages to your younger self and your future self
  • how to coach oneself
  • starting out on Facebook live, going from one viewer to 5, to a whole community
  • how can you help your clients more than just yourself
  • pop culture figures like Beyonce speak from the heart and turn people on
  • knowing your weaknesses and seeking help in those areas of your business
  • her 3 month sexual self mastery coaching container
  • positive feedback from her clients having lost weight, skin cleared, overcoming limitations
  • the king, warrior, and magician archetypes
  • discovering and developing your ideal future self
  • the importance of drawing upon ancient traditions of goddess worship to inform and empower modern goddess worship methods and practices
  • coming to know tantric goddesses such as Lakshmi, Saraswati, and Kali
  • embodying the essence and wisdom of goddesses at different points in your life journey
  • the more you awaken a woman’s imagination, the more her pussy will awaken
  • the experience of worshiping at a tantric temple in Venice
  • how men can worship archetypal goddesses with and through their beloveds
  • the role of prayer and self purification as prerequisites for worshiping ones beloveds
  • and more!

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin welcome to touch your Punk podcast episode number 189 I’m being joined by Erica Briones and she is a coach from the evolved masculine and founder of the sexy Soul Collective and she is got so much exciting stuff to tell us about today I’m really excited we met a while back now but we made it a really amazing event that was being facilitated and discussions about healing Sexual Healing sexual trauma and and different modalities that people are using two to really Empower themselves and each other and so that was sort of the context where I got to see and hear about some of her work and it’s very exciting the work she’s doing with men and helping to raise the Consciousness in that Arena and so we’re all about that here so I can’t wait to hear lots more about what you do Erica thank you for being on and please go take your time going in detail introducing yourself and telling us about to what makes all the beautiful and Magic happen thank you so much for inviting me I’m really excited I have been coaching sexual self-mastery practices and you’ve been part of the video series so it’s really amazing to connect the the body and video to your voice and really getting to know your philosophy and just really connect with what what lessons I can serve to your audience and I really believe that these lessons are to weaken our inner-spirit and really connect with our sexuality and embrace both the Shadow and the lights absolutely absolutely well thank you that is a blessing and honor to know I’m yeah definitely a giggly and curious I always feel that you know I was blushing I hear stuff like that cuz I you know sometimes put stuff out there that’s like a voice in the wilderness but then you know you hear back people that are having positive effects and whatnot so I appreciate that thank you and yeah I want to ask about your personal Journey where would you say this path began for you and your life this past weekend since I was a little girl so I always share the story and I feel like I’m at a point where I’m Shifting the intention of the story so I was initiated into sex through a Freemason who taught me how to be a woman and use different modalities from you know putting me in a white rest in a call call the Rainbow girls and he is some black magic sand pendulum some hypnosis and down the line I feared sucks I sawed sex is dangerous and deadly he told me if you tell anyone you will be a prostitute or you will be living in the dumpster so I started taking that on and kind of becoming the archetype that he created where I was jostle I was shutdown I was naive I did not speak my truth and I was not happy and that story followed me till even after college I got into the movie the secretary the secretary is the film about this woman who is a cutter and eventually she becomes a secretary and transmits her pain from cutting to being spanked and being a submissive in a BDSM contacts so that story got me into BDSM and I moved to Beverly Hills and I became of dominatrix except I was living a double life telling people I was a secretary and I believe that one in three people are living a double life and as the story continues you know my hero’s journey and I’d call this the hero’s journey because every hero’s journey according to Joseph Campbell’s work you know the character leaves the village right the character leaves the village and for me it was leaving my identity of being the good girl you know being everything I can for the family and then the next part of the movie is the part where the character you know goes on an adventure and for me that was discovering BDSM and getting into Tantra doing escort type work and coaching men and you know I’ve been looking and looking and looking for these guys or this a weakening and when they discovered going into the belly of the Beast so there’s another part 2 movie where according to the hero’s journey there is the rebirth part where the character finally go through the battle scene they’re doing everything to do the inner work because there’s two stories and every film there’s an inner story and there is an otter story the inner story of the interest the inner script is who am I am I good enough am I sexy enough I buy dressing sexy and really confronting our our ego so we’re really battling the in Rico and then there’s the outer seen that the outer movie which is like the actual physical components that relates to it for me that was starting to share on Facebook hey guys I’m coming out to the world and this is what I’ve done and sharing with my friends publicly and I’ve always been envious of gay men for you know opening up and I will say that it is a scary thing so that’s a minor movie was the belly of the Beast and eventually one side overcame the threshold then the next part is coaching and you know now it’s like hey I’m making this my lifestyle I’m traveling the world it just came back from was on this beautiful island for like a week and you know been featured on podcast now I’m on iHeartRadio and coaching like some amazing Man comic book writers lawyers doctors not doctors lawyers police officers you know screenwriters and being able to be me and being yourself and the context of sexuality is it spring spray because you get to leave the village and yeah there will be times when your family may disown you there may be times where you may not know who you are in that moment but if I can share this to that person who needs to hear it and they’re in their car crying like who am I like what am I supposed to do you’re not alone because I’m talking to the woman who was me back in 2013 1314 where I was at Barnes and Nobles and I just left the I was actually doing happy endings in La is like the dark like hole in the wall and it was like this office and just smell like cinnamon and my church was Barnes and Nobles actually in and go to Barnes and Nobles and I’m praying and like I need to talk to someone there was only one person and he ended up always yelling at me if I was like awesome you yelling at me this is so cool and he was the only person I talk to at the time but if this reaches that one person who needs to hear it may be there at Barnes and Nobles or maybe they’re sitting at home crying thinking like maybe I’m alone no you’re not alone so that’s a story for that person and that’s why I do it well that was an intense right and I also many of these these archetypes are coming to play for me and I’ve been hearing a lot of people talk about just the other the value of understanding these these storylines Anis archetypes for personal development and sounds like you have really gone to hell and back and have a lot of fun experience and the end I can hear it in your voice that you you come from a lesson power place to a much more Empower place and I’m curious if you could talk about was there a specific Catalyst for you that got you to rise into creating a brand and doing kind of getting into a leadership role and speaking out was there was there like a a if that was a scene in that in that that script you know if you will was there a certain kind of pivotal aha moment or wake up call or something where you had enough and you just shifted dramatically or was it more gradual I’m just curious if maybe still stuck you know it’s watching Pretty Woman and thinking maybe I’ll be saved by the white Knights and I’ll be doing these like I’ll be like this sexy escort sacred sexuality prostitute or you know like I’ve never said that before but by the time I was just I didn’t know who I was and I thought I was just you know us a slide and now I own my spot for me it was when I didn’t mean to like the wine and I’m still single I met a client who I was actually a very public figure actor Golden Globe winner and I can’t really say his name due to confidentiality reasons but it was that moment when Cinderella meets the Prince dancing and then she has to go but there’s a Twist to my stories like the clutch with the plot twist wasn’t hey he finds a shoe and then we you know when we get married and like everything is awesome like don’t we wish that we are always happy at the end no for me was like oh my God I had this amazing Tantra experience I fell in love with Tantra because of him we were in this amazing bubble of safety really talking about agreements boundaries desires I help my boundaries despite who his name was and I said this is who I am and you have to meet me here and he completely respected every boundary he made me feel intelligent he did not make me feel like a the sexual person he made me feel like I was honored by my mind set my my Heritage and my spirit and I was able to learn about his culture and I thought wow this is a very intellectual King archetype this is the type of archetype that girl’s dream of meeting right the new going to a red carpet or meeting someone who has a name but for me it was him marrying the woman that I am supposed to rise in to write this is the scene that every woman wants to get into that that makeover story that how I lost weight and now I’m here and now I’m you know traveling the world like we all want to live that life for me it was not as easy as I am at this amazing guy I this happened next which the next thing that happened was I went to a tailopez seminar and I’m laughing because like I don’t resonate with his work as much as I used to back then but that’s gross right like you grow from one thing and it pivots you to the next Mentor I didn’t give it to to the next mentor and we’re all looking at that that grew at the top of the mountain but eventually we become That Grew at the top of the mountain and eventually we start to continue our journey to other lessons so he basically does pivoted me to get my lesson of I can be my own brand I can also teach what my teachers teach to others so it was it was a it was kind of the Cinderella story needs Like A Knight’s Tale type story where you know they just like conquer the the dragon and they they make it and they win their victory for me that victory was firing a client who was actually actually my client she was a stripper she found me on Yelp and apparently I was just teaching her what I learn and she says oh my God you’re so amazing you’re changing my life meditating now I am leaving this work I am so much happier because of that and I thought that was the best the best gift I’ve ever received his hearing someone say you changed my life like no one can ever take that away as when someone says like you made my life better you make me have a reason to live and it’s all about validation is about you really want people to succeed as you really want people to feel like overcome their challenges and struggles question cuz what what a ride that was taped to hear about my imagination is is spinning and all this is I hope you are writing a manuscript right now if you haven’t already published your memory so you know however whenever you feel comfortable doing that it sounds very Redemptive and very a very amazing so that’s so if I understand correctly one of your as as a as an escort you were sort of them at a lower point you are not as thrilled about what you’re doing but you were able to through just perseverance get to that that sort of the point of of great Fortune where you were not just meeting the the shadow Prince Cena or the knight in shining armor but actually a man who is skilled in Tantra which is rare and then he was able to sort of do a tundra makeover on you while giving you full dignity and full empowerment to take ownership of the process and not being whatever made into a trophy arm candy kind of a whatever you know that that you because there are people who certainly would just be content just oh yeah look I made it to the dino to the big time but I’m still being demeaned or I’m still there still a sort of them a lack of growth happening but you have like sort of The Best of Both Worlds you got you did have that that man come in so could you if I if I’m if I’m understanding correctly could you talk a little bit more about the sort of without disclosing anything confidential course I’m super curious how Tantra is is sort of this functioning in in the minds of men in in in those Realms of society and in how they how they practice it and what they’re you know they’re their way of approaching the the Siddharth and Sciences if you could talk a little bit more about that like what was your first did you do you have your man have a Kundalini Awakening or what was the this week as I’m the gym and nut chapter back to that time where I can actually remember the yab-yum so before I got into the yab-yum I said hey this is my boundaries is my desires I mean it I had a desire to kiss them and they just want to be like straight up and we all and say like hey I also have feelings except there was an Integris that I said hey this is the ground rules except if you do have a request please let me know to see if I am open to doing that so that was something that taught me about humility so before we go into yab-yum we do this meditation that was actually inspired by Deepak Chopra we talked about water and the Alchemy of water in a meditation was incredibly catharsis and it was about really connecting to humanity like how can we connect with our sexuality to raise the vibration here in the planet for the environment for the animals and it sounds It is Well except I love what that can do for the environment you know being more aware of how you are mindful of plastic or you’re mindful of how you throw away your trash so we start to do this this very simple meditation that we bring her hands and center and we start to like slowly move that that energy and water is a sacral energy right like sex sexual energy is like that water energy that’s like moving up the spine of the heart do the throat and then up the crown and finally to the heavens so we start with that and then after that we just start doing we going to Yad diamandis we’re doing a lot of rest and breathing and chanting and somehow we just get into the Transcendence of like magic where I start to like remember password I have some Druid priestesses and it was really interesting because there was something in his energy that brought up a memory of a past life you know as if I was he was there to teach me about my Priestess years because the thing is with the with the left eye and this is something I’ve learned from another country guys the last died in Tantra brings in a lot of ancient wisdom and everyone has their own wisdom right everyone listens or their own contact their own you know their own subscriptions are on magazines are on newspapers like everyone has their own wisdom and die with them gets passed on to you energetically whether you know it or not on a soul level that person is transferring energetic memories into your hard drive into your soul Drive and so once you start to get that download then you start to understand like who you are like and we’re all one we’re all aligned and. Switch Hunter teaches is expansion to liberate expanding Consciousness by liberating but the past and future to be in Union to be in the present moment and when I was doing that that ceremony that’s when I started to really get Tantra and it was really connecting to his inner child to his past lives to his pain to his his dreams and I also was also feeling that that sense of inspiration that raw awareness that lit up my inner archetype this inner archetype that went from the weakling lover so the weekly in the lover archetype you know the shadow aspect of it is the weakling or the needy child like I want more I want this you know what I like I’m not good enough I’m not Central enough like so I need to start you know getting validation through sex for me it was like okay I started to come from that point in my journey except once I started being aware I said oh no my next step is to change the change the ancestor codes change the the way that my mother spoke to me and share this new medicine this new codes to my sister’s to my brothers are the people that need to hear this because they’re still domestic violence there still sexual abuse there still slavery there so sex trafficking and it’s not going to stop until more more voice is like like a collection of voices start speaking this truth cinematic everything you’re describing and you’re so beautiful I’m so glad that there was a connection with it the meditation bring into elements and seeing I’ve had experiences with train very highly trained meditators who do this I gave open eye meditation eye gazing kind of Pooja where it’s pretty much guarantee that sort of like a parlor trick but it’s real and they will get you know you could go around and rotate within a room and then the train meditator is is able to pierce you basically energetically very gently but basically first you go through these clouds of different colors in Mondelez and then boom you’re seeing into their past lives like snapshots of their past lives and then you’re sort of morphing and melting into so it’s this very the Continuum of both of past lives it’s it’s very palpable when you get into these these very intentional state so I’m glad you brought that up and and that’s certainly one of the more mystical mystical properties in and certainly this year released you really making a great case for why people should embrace this is spiritual technology of Tantra because if it does help you is very explicit how it’s helping you help you understand your your higher self and your higher purposes into not. You’re not to not take shit from life or even from yourself for what you think of yourself and that’s what I like that’s what I like to what’s the weather going to Skype with So yeah thank you for sharing all that and it’s really it’s really beautiful and and humbling and something that we were talking about downloading to the to the the the hard drive of of the Soul you know actually I could almost heard you say heart heart Drive which will give you a good one too I think that they will fit to so yeah I guess if we can I get fast forward a bit from that was your sort of tantric initiation Awakening and so you from from that moment you’ve really started to build this Maven type career out of sharing this wisdom and in switching people on to this this level of Consciousness do you want to talk a bit about what the on the more professional sort of more back to the physical plane part of it what is it what has it look like for you to establish a Brandon and get your all of your ducks in a row so to speak on on that the physical playing notes of Business Development people think marketing brand is what people say when you leave the room so it really comes down to thalia’s like before you know using canva.com before using Graphics logos Flyers like SoundCloud what you doing it all comes down to making sure that you are in alignment like in line with what you are preaching you have to be congruent so if you’re speaking about you know you’re the sex goddess are you doing this type of work on yourself are you doing the inner work are you journaling are you meditating are you you know going to Tantra festivals are you having deep conversations with people yes okay then the next step is like what makes you different it’s not about being better it’s about what makes you different how are you saying things that are different for me I like pop culture okay so I like films I like media and something that has helped me is a passion test this is like something you like one of my psychics basically before I got before we get into The Branding answer I I told you I was like I really want to see if I can meet my muse and she says well first of all you’re going to be you’re going to be amazed yourself you’re going to be speaking to so many people you know you’re going to be talking and I said oh no that’s just not going to happen I’m not going to public speak I’m not going to talk and before you know it I feel that go to seminars I do my own modality on myself and then it happens and then the next piece is like once you overcome your fear of speaking then the next piece is really fine-tune your messaging so right now I don’t have a script for you I’m literally just coming from values coming from my heart what are my values integrity mature love spirituality really getting into a waking consciousness how deep can we go to the rabbit hole right like if you think about people like Alan Watts or wrong. They do to her marketing are you been laying the the teachers before it’s like ascending Masters they just literally spoke a truth spoke it was spoken word and people said oh my God I really like what this guy is saying I’m just I’m like feeling so energized by the message I’m getting high off of that message right that’s that’s branding and it but before you get to that you must really go into the inner work whether whether you’re listening to ROM Dass on their way home or you’re listening to all and you’re having a cry for me it was talking to myself like recording messages to my my younger self For My Future Self and then listening to it over over and seeing hey how can I how can I overcome some of my limiting beliefs how can I coach myself how can I actually coach myself so once you get into that then then then you can think about like you know branding weather doing like getting on Facebook Facebook live and for me once I started that like I started doing Facebook live talk to one person from Australia and then became 5 and then I’ll have like my own like community and that takes time like it’s building relationships making sure that your relationships it’s coming from hard how can you help them more than yourself how can you be up service how can you how can you mirror them in a way that they get their the last in a lot faster it’s like you know every artist has their own way of doing things like when you look at Beyonce she sings from her heart she has her own politics and her own philosophy with matter is she empowering People Are People feeling Unleashed are people playing the music and they’re like oh my God I want I feel so turned on by this right like that’s the type of branding that you really does come down to the soul the soul is like about the values and professionally you know like yeah you can do I can I can definitely tell your audience like what to do is besides like getting to the soul of the matter the next piece is like making sure when you write have an editor like have someone edit your stuff in your writing make sure your grammar is on point I something that I know is my point is grammar communicating in a way that it lands for people like making sure you understand public speaking I-44 one have never taken a public speaking class except I know that it’s super super critical to make sure that you have an attention-getter that you know how to really like know how to write know how to speak know how to like really get a person to that to feel that the message cuz that’s what we want is to really push the pivot the person to empowerment inspiration to feel sexually aware my my heart drives is catching up to a lot of that to this is it sounds like you’re really you’re really positioning yourself to be as significant with the spiritual and personal development and sexual development relieved to be I mean they say they say Destin Garrick is the is the Tony Robbins of Tantra will maybe it to me I’m hearing that you you you seem to me like the female Tony Robbins of Tantra and I appreciate that because yeah sometimes people have door to woo woo or two business and I like the way that you’re talking about really this is fundamentals this to me it sounds like if you were talking to it as an athlete and in people ask what their secret is it and they said you know I do the fundamentals thousand times to know and that’s why I’m the best sport or that’s how I’m different if it’s not about being better so I think this is really good stuff this is really good empowering material for people who are who are out there now trying to to make develop themselves and then also have an offering so maybe it’s probably a good time now to talk about more in detail what it is that you offer what are some of the programs and packages and you know you don’t have to go into specifics if you don’t want to but just going to really what anyone listen to this would be signing up for if they join your newsletter or join your live stream or did private sessions or or group Retreats or or what not just get into the offering so we great yeah well first your audience gets free meditations on Soundcloud I offer a lot of content already there’s a I have my YouTube channel Attica Brianna’s official and I haven’t been developing much content and that’s going to change soon again I’m doing these amazing amazing meditations and that the other thing that I’m offering is the Freak podcast so if your community has some BDSM lovers out there then I have the the podcast project lock is on Soundcloud and basically I’ve interviewed a lot of experts can collagist sexologist there’s also a discount or free code so if anyone’s into BDSM and you’re free code is sexy soul and you get House of a success and it’s a luxurious leather company with a bucket of design and elements that’s very stimulating to the eye and it’s really great on the table has the cops if so awesome I love it. It’s amazing amazing Exquisite like top of the line design that your followers can have and ask for coaching I do have a three-month container for the sexual self Mastery course or do I have to stay like you’re part of that the whole video series so if you want to watch Ben Daniels naked and beautiful doing his Mastery you’ll learn how to kind of become this amazing sexual master and really know what that means for you how to really get into your body how to really be present how to really be an amazing lover so that’s one of my favorite courses I love it so much I’ve had clients that have said that they lost way their skin clear their sex Got a Way deeper than before and again that’s the sexual self Mastery course and of course my other favorite course is the evolved masculine path course to really get into your archetype based on king warrior magician so we get to play the game of really getting into you playing your your archetype so as a little kid if you remember having an imaginary friend do you remember having an imaginary friend well when you have friends but that’s another story and then as as an adult this is pretty much sure your archetype which is not not an imaginary friend it’s a completely different thing that really pivots you into the direction of your path whether you want to be an amazing comic book writer are you you have this Vision to be the best at what so I can I get you there so that’s what I do is if it’s a three-month container and I’m like so excited and if you want to connect with me just go to edika be honest I’ll come that is e r i k a k as in kinky a b r i o n e s.com awesome that was a great story audio brochure that you just shared and I would say this is something yeah we got about a good 20 minutes or so left so depending on how is she holding up as we get close to an hour but I would say it’s kind of open it if you’re willing if you’re okay to have me open it up to a little bit of of dialogue here what I’m very curious about is the how goddess worship from a tantric perspective differs from an and maybe in forms or is is that the the interplay between the standard sort of Orthodox femdom goddess mistress archetype and then the sort of more more ancient tantric goddess as as Divine deity Giver of blessings shamanic healer Mother’s Day of the universe and all that kind of stuff I’m curious if you what in your what would be some of your words about how and you’re mine and your heart and soul and all your chakras how you how you transmute and how you play with with these different archetypes cuz they are they are at the top of the Pyramid of all creation and everything is one but in the differentiated forms that we live in now there’s certainly some I was just calling diversity then how people approach goddess worship so I’m curious what you would what you would say from your experience of integrating those archetypes of the goddess it’s a really good question so for me the goddess archetype goddess worship really comes down to really knowing the goddesses so for me and Tantra I learned about Lakshmi kolli set of swathi Lakshmi is this beautiful goddess no bathing water and a lot of these essential goddess Venus goddess were just like you know last week was Valentine’s Day so this is like perfect timing so Venus was sensual and all of her glory in a lot of these goddesses there’s this one Goddess that I remember she like this empowered bitch goddess but all of them have a theme of like in pictures and portraits in art and literature you see them like emerging from water right so having them celebrating them in water so for me goddess worship should always start in water right I think about it when you heard like taking a shower don’t you get your best ideas and water like when you’re taking a shower like oh my God I have such a great idea or I’m taking a shower well that water is nourishing you that water is a listening all of your all of your ideas having babies some babies when mothers have a paper the baby they do it in water ceremony it’s right like so it’s like a way more easy for the for the pelvic and massaging the the pelvis in water so for me like Lakshmi represents that goddess archetype of Love sensuality play also she frames the way that she frames it is I own my sensuality I know that I’m a goddess I am this powerful amazing person I am receiving I don’t need you to go to your platform I don’t need to rise to anyone if anything she has a really strong connection to God to source to her ascending Masters you know she celebrates dancing she celebrates through playing your sensuality but she really tunes into the higher majesties the higher mystery and then there’s that a sweat bee that is swappi is the goddess of creativity and she’s all about like getting into wisdom you know like sulfur to really anchor into the goddess worship you must really anchor her into her intellect to her Psychic Eye to what is she curious about understanding in terms of spirituality like what is it like you have to listen to Alan Watts do you have to like ask her questions about her childhood talk about lucid dreaming the more you activate Her Imagination her her pussy willow weekend it’s been awhile since I’ve chanting mantras but it when I was working in the tundra temple in Venice actually California surrounded by this beautiful Lush bed with peacocks all around amethyst crystals you know having sunlight opening up I was already in my Lakshmi but for me when I was in my set of Swampy my positioning was the study version of me right the studying version getting into my creativity journaling talking about manifesting my dreams and then the other the other goddess is Kali Kali Ma he’s my one of my favorites when I’m feeling fear so if you can for the men out there if you can really respect her calling Mom and you can respect her and her soft know when you can respect her body language if you’re noticing that she’s looking down if you’re noticing that there’s some weird energy if you’re noticing weird energy immediately she’s trying to tell you that she wants to waken her collie law Sky Kalima energies at Fierce mother Warrior protector she’s like that BDSM Queens like okay I want you on your knees bow down to the creek and you just listen there’s no ands buts or you simply listened because she’s teaching you with your body and when you learned how to be how to submit to Kali then you learn more about Mercy you learn more about judgment you learn more about immortality of Greece Kalamata is the teacher of the Shadow she’s at she’s the elixir of poison she’s the Snake Charmer she knows how to charm the snake so when you start to like embody the philosophy of Kali Saraswati Lakshmi and um you understand that philosophy than when you’re with her in a tantra session you can you can add the water you know like bathe her and water Sarge all of her beautiful curves that you know really start with the really asking permission you know praying before the Yoni is it okay like if you can pray before the Yoni OMG if you can pray before the Yoni you are giving honor to her Lakshmi you’re giving honor to her locked me you’re saying Queen may I enter your temple may I honor like and you have the prayer pose to my favorite my favorite personal prayer is the Balinese way the Balinese pray with an empty hand near the forehead so yeah prayer is a big one in goddess worship and then you know adding flowers but before you even pray you have to really absolve yourself of your own Karma absolve yourself of your own physical stuff that has happened before you enter into her energy field and then you of course have a dialogue which is the combination of the fattest glossy and the caller and then you can choose to do whatever whether you do breast you know you cover her and Roses you play on some sweet music and you simply know how to really adore her and it really just comes to adoring her inner child really like honoring her Queen and and holding space for all parts of her it’s a lot of work also thank you you definitely have impressed me because I feel like there is a real lack of connection with the sacred sexuality and there’s almost like a a bias within King sometimes about how sacred sexuality is almost vanilla because it’s not brutal and a half or something. I would counter that that census of just people honestly I’ve heard Dom’s some Pro Dom say say that they were repulsed by even the word hearing the word Yanni made them a Denver Post because it just it just seems so well I would I can I would have to use my own words to say that there is this sort of some sort of a backlash against this more prayerful material but I would say in my estimation it’s the if the most powerful this you’re talking about the most powerful what I believe to be what I’ve experienced has to be the most powerful kind of ritual procedure ceremony you know session work you can you can imagine is is putting yourself invoking these these these Essences and his energies sand and speaking with them and communicating and being in service and that it’s almost like if if I can do a little bit of a sidebar here and just say my gripe that I have with some of the Kink world in the BDSM world is that it can get very egotistical very fast and and I’ve seen you know even put a proton women who I do I want to worship but that I see you know I’m I’m here I want to I want to worship the Divine and I feel like I’m looking at just a really over bloated ego and I want to I want to get a bug that and beyond that and what you’re talking about for me is like the the big yes send the big the nurturing you know we’re all just fingers pointing to the Moon here we’re all just hoping to Aspire to be in communion with the Divine energies and and this is what it takes what you’re saying in my in my in my estimation is that you know this this sort of humility and the sort of procedure and the offerings and that is going back to the Town Creek methods of worship that are are are not so much not so much about the the torture chambers and in the market aside and the leather although I’m not demonizing those things I will say that they’re all part of everything is mama you know I sound level if you want to put it that way if you know but I just want to really really take a moment to from from my framework and not to project anything I’m saying on to you or anyone you work with her or anyone from that scene but I will say it is such a breath of fresh air to find women who are doing Dom work who are working with these practices it’s a real breath of fresh air so that was my that was my public service announcement and my sword editorializing there but yeah the more the merrier with that so thank you think one of my intentions is do events this year where I teach my own way of fusing Tantra and BDSM maybe you could be a devil model yes for sure I’m I’m open to anything and I feel like I live my life like that scene in Fight Club where it where Tyler Durden is getting bludgeon by the the mobster you know in the basement when they’re they’re trying to basically trying to break up their their underground boxing ring and I think they’re doing it for profit but really they’re doing it for Spirit and the way for for Brad Pitt to communicate that really to the world cuz that the whole movie was it was a ton trick Buddhist Treatise that was like a whole country scripture if people don’t don’t get that really go back and watch Fight Club and see this is like the the Divine masculine trying to break free from from the poison of patriarchy and that’s how I see it I’m like that I can I will take on the the pain of the feminine and I will you know D A I can be a masochist in and work with the energy and then let it flow in the in the fact you know you can see footage online on YouTube a lot of the Kali temples around the world the way that the that the computer is the priests and priestesses will and unfortunately in these days because of patriarchy it’s it’s it’s been skewed towards a priest class so there’s a lot of Kali temples in a world where it is a male-dominated profession to be a shamanic healer at the Kali Temple invoking the Shakti of collie and the Whippet the way that they will I have my own issues with that of course but it is interesting that something some of the things that they would do and you would appreciate this as a Dino from doing down work is that in order for the crowd of beleaguered glasses to come in and really believe that the priest is actually holding the power of the goddess and actually is invoking her left fully he will endure these these ordeals of getting whipped on an in and basically being flogged and whipped to prove that you can be kind of slashed with these whips on the on the on the forearm and have there be no marks and and show no pain and so that is sort of the the guarantee or the proof in the pudding that that that priest is doing the work to be imbued with her energy and so if she can take this abuse and not be crying or or cowering in the face that abused and then he’s qualified to to go in and hunt your demons you know and pull them out and unless you go about your way is it he did it’s fascinating to watch the footage of the stuff it’s no joke I mean it looks it looks like a dungeon in a Weird Al seeking I think the same the Same Love in the same healing at some level so that was that was enough for me but yeah we’re wrapping up here at are about about an hour or so would you like to take the floor and share anything else really make a call to action how can people connect with you how come people Debra Lee directly to get in contact with you and any words you like to share anything else you’d like to yatted to talk about before we before we get to call today the type of audience you have but I do want to say that a book that has really healed my my journey has been the book Urban Tantra by Barbara Corrales and I know that there’s like my intention like what my my vision is to help as many girls as possible to go from the Dark Side of the industry you know like working at massage parlors in because of focus esta this lot that’s really really an entrapment to teaching women to be sacred sexuality Educators to go from living to start double life where you’re you’re feeling on the edge you’re feeling like there’s going to be a risk involved maybe you’re going to have to see a client because you have to pay the rent and your trade in your like this is the only thing I have and you have to like you know basically fight and you don’t have to fight you have to really invite you to soften the Cena and so I’m like I guess like right now I’m speaking to the women that have had that shame and so my call to action is for women to really really awesome sells how how long am I going to be sick and tired of this story how long am I going to be living in the shadow of my life or am I willing to you know grab a flashlight and go to the other side and actually see that there is Beauty on the other side of the dark and you know if you have to call me and I or message me you know you could have easily go to sexy Soul Collective on Instagram or you could go on my website any guy, and we can have a chat really just like really connect virtually over coffee or tea and really see like how can we really support each other and if it means that you sign up for 3 months I’ll be great like my dream is to really Empower women to really overcome their you know overcome this and I love seeing women empowered but mostly the men that I have work with like I also see that they’re starting to like rise up against their masculine going from the broken Soul lost soul to empowered King owning their magician knowing their lover and having a really balance within all their archetypes by putting down your sink whether if your a guy who wants the last pain you’re like I just want to hustle my way out of the intimacy then that’s my client but mostly it’s because I want people to like wake up to their dreams that’s beautiful wake up to your dream that is that’s it has M Cohan right there you can forget about one sound one the sound of one hand clapping or does it visit tree falling make a sound that is that is a beautiful meditation right there to the end within and I will say if I could add a couple of sites here would just be that there has been an Exquisite pleasure and I feel like I feel like we’ve known each other a lot longer than then then we technically have known each other in this lifetime and and hopefully you have beautiful things will come forth from this conversation and just a big a big thank you again for this opportunity to just show your work and I look forward to the next time I’m sure just it’s always an open channel of communication if you have stuff you want to promote or talk about or anything in the future you want to share with your audience then by all means do that so yeah thank you so much again for your time and Namaste thank you blessings BWW. 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Psychedelic Goddess Worship: Behind the Book with Wilhelm Cortez TPP187

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In this episode I’m joined again by my dear beloved soul bro of more than two decades, Wilhelm Cortez.  (Listen to our first episode here) We’ve both been working hard in collaboration on overhauling and editing the manuscript for my forthcoming first book entitled: “Psychedelic Goddess Worship: Erotic Memoirs from the Astral Battlefield”.

I thought it would be fun and engaging to give a bit of a “behind the book” commentary so we could both compare notes and commiserate on the arduous process of co-creating hopefully a potential modern epic.

We discuss the backstory of how our personal life journeys have intertwined throughout the years going back to the old days in the Portland Gutter Punx scene and the forest defense encampments, then we give an overview of the events leading up to his encouragement and editorial role for my articles on the Good Men Project website, then we cover the events leading up to the formation of the Connection Victory publishing company. This leads to our dialog about the inner-workings of the book editing process, discovering emergent properties hidden between the lines, getting stuck and unstuck, converting an otherwise dry pseudo-scientific pseudo-academic tome, into a sci-fi-esque romance novel, and much more.

It has and will continue to be a great honor to have his expertise and wisdom informing and guiding the project in ways I could never have imagined. It’s a trip how the book is a sort of living creature filled with its own paradoxical angels and demons. We discuss how since Wilhelm has been involved, he has in different ways become both entangled and liberated through the process.

We’re looking forward to an official release later this year, stay tuned!!!

Please connect with Wilhelm via email at: globalnomadway (at) gmail (dot) com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved smoke Natasha Punk podcast episode number 187 I am here again with Wilhelm Cortez and we’re going to talk about the evolution of our unique and beautiful co-creative relationship through various are writing initiatives that he got me on board with writing for the good men project a number of years ago now and we have a personal back story that we discussed more in previous episode that we did so we had originally done a podcast together episode number 81 the good men project with exact editor Wilhelm Cortez and in that episode you can hear more about our background meeting up in Portland in the days of the Portland gutter punks and and also hanging out in the forest and just being a part of Northwest good old American Street Punk Eco Punk activism in the Northwest and and his journeys in travels and how we we kind of read and we’ve together in various the very Point sometime just kind of a soul Brotherhood that has really blossomed now in the present moment as he’s not only be at me he has become my my dream copyright editor you know of that had not had anyone in my life be supported of my work in that way and it’s always just been me kind of winging it and I have I wouldn’t say I’m a prolific writer but I wrote a column for the profane existence anarcho-punk magazine and you know I’ve always just wrote zeins and Roll lyrics and wrote pretty profusely just in my own my own life I guess I would say that I I do this prior to eventually be an author but the impetus to really do that didn’t come together for me until just the last I guess the last few years that I’ve been in in the zone of actually producing a manuscript that is a I buy a biographical almost science fiction sort of Epic that is titled now psychedelic goddess worship erotic Memoirs from the astral Battlefield and so it really encapsulates and depicts a lot of the journey that I’ve been on that various podcast previous podcast have brought on characters from my life story that are in the book by fictitious names it’s it’s it’s it’s it is really the the text formatting of of all the videos I’ve been doing and in Black post and what not and who better to actually be the one to help me organize and make sense of all of this material than the man my dear friend here it’s already been editing articles that I have been writing for the good men project website so there there’s just been a again this this interweaving of synchronicity that’s brought us together in various contexts and couldn’t ask for a better and more blessed experience of having the help and support I need to do it every crazy maniac creative artist author type person writer whatever they need somebody to actually bring things down to earth on occasion and sort things out and really be a soundboard and so this is my first experience of having that level of care and concern for my life story and it’s pretty much just been me trying to make sense of things on my own and sometimes having the state intervene or like the mental health system intervene and trying to help me sort things out you know little bit of families and lovers here and there but this is a real gift to have somebody to help me with the cat all this madness and all this material and and make it into something that hopefully will will touch the soul of humanity and heal the soul of humanity to especially for those who can commiserate and have been to various you know similar forms of them no trauma and whatnot so that is just sort of to orient this conversation what I love to do when we get into the sort of body of this is to First bring have Wilhelm bring us up to speed on on his sort of perspective his narrative on what it’s been like to interact with me and get to this point in this process and then we’re going to get into really the bitter the behind the pages if you will on where we’re at in the editing process of this manuscript and and some of the I would call it these beautiful emergent properties of of two heads being better than one on trying to understand how to frame this material and get into some of the bloopers probably and it’s just some of the everything you did you’d come to love about it like a movie director producer commentary bonus feature that’s my that’s my goal is to have that that affect your even though the book is is not yet out when it is when it comes out this will be a nice can into to enjoy it with so with all that said well I’m thank you for being with my intro and thank you for being here and how are you doing what’s new with what’s happening was a very gracious introduction and I thank you for that and also as you mentioned since the book still isn’t out and we’re still really kind of in the middle of the chaos storm of editing this thing it’s also I see it as a challenge to continue on with it because it is been quite a bit of a journey and it all kind of started with the seats Mew no looking back at the first article that you published with the good men project these little things are more valuable than oil where to go and talk to you about the environment and and basically seeds and keeping not and how that all works together really that’s where we started off and it was kind of funny I was scanning through the articles that you did for championship and the way but we really go up to where I think you really wanted to be talkin about the whole time which was you know how to how to survive and how does she feel and how to give back and that’s really what we see and you know we had our little you know not really problems or anything along the way but you know if you’re familiar with the good men project you trying to cross the border but we also we have a very very PG-13 rating and the first draft of how to make love like a god editorial staff at the time but you know working through it we we discovered a lot we discovered a lot more about the the emotive core beyond the physical and how to really talk about in a dress. And I really feel like the work on that article kind of kicked off the creative literary relationship between us this really you know putting it back for those of you go back and listen to the previous podcast in the Back store is really the mature Asian of this journey we’ve been on through various different weird intersections in our lives that kind of brought it together so that brings it up to that day when you asked me you know hey I was putting together all this stuff for a storage at the science fiction and about this Tantra and scalene inbox as you said in about an about more and I was just like what is this Beastie is creative Sprouts sourcing editing for it and I’m like oh you’ve got like getting now we’re getting entered like dimensional in the complex that he’s here that’s when I was just kind of like will send me what you got and you did and when I started to go through it it was like oh okay deep breath this is the story this is the one that you’ve been alluding to you been talkin about and caulking around and then all your other work was working towards you know and actually get in getting it all laid out but the first presentation basically that you gave me was really readable and interesting for an archivist doing research on recovery and healing from trauma but for an audience that is a lot more than that and that actually need that healing process support cuz we know like within the society that has been constructed based off of the oppression and abuse of so many different demographics you know this is what I’ll try not to get too distracted talking about like ecofeminism and all of the connections that we have. But I think it to put it in a really lame in an easier one package has one of the phrase I used with you when we were talking about what we were going to do with all this material that you would collect it together all this material that you had compiled all of these notebooks that he would process all of these transcripts all of this words what are we going to do with it and it was like I saw the power in the story as being a power and that you know it’s like the popularity of something like Fifty Shades of Grey which is like really problematic on so many levels like you know like relationship-wise socialize abuse wise oppression wise and for me is an editor like you know how to get the story across indicative through and that what we actually had the potential for was the type of story that the kind of as interest it’s like people like and watch and he read about and participate in sexual intercourse and this is a good healthy and presenting it in a good healthy way is that Rod wood to dry in. Kind of leadership wants to have that in their literature or in their imagination to deliver it in a way that is healing and uplifting that was kind of worried you know I watched off and it was like another one of those happy you know synchronicities coincidences designs plans people just randomly having things happen things had worked out through another executive editor at the good men project Lisa blocker who I worked with quite closely for about 2 or 3 years and in that time we started developing this idea of a publishing company and to get out ideas about social justice ethics gender and sexuality spirituality mental health to get exposure for writers who don’t necessarily have the resources to put it all together because it’s doing publishing it’s like you may have the best but how are you going to deliver to your readers if you have so many more steps so what we have with connection Victory publishing is promote these ideas as well as these writers that we have a connection with the are part of our you know our society are social family part of our community wise man so that’s when I pitched the idea to you that I’m about like a you know how about if we do this book and we take the Sun and I was stoked because what could be more what could be a bigger honor than to be under the wings of to Powerhouse editors from the good men project that means more to me on a personal and spiritual level let alone a professional and resume sore level than if I was to go with or seek out or just send the manuscript out and just have whoever was the highest bidder or something you know be for me to be just in that Machinery I like your saying too if I was at going up going about the route I’m just saying I’m have my friend my friend who flips houses gave me this great little bit of wisdom very kind of Dallas kind of things do they say they said that because it will be out there they’re flipping houses this is little bit of side note but it’ll it ties him in a good way it says they were after flipping houses which means they’re out there and they’re already very wealthy but they want to hang onto as much Capital as they can so they they will actually do a lot of the manual labor themselves you know scraping off paint pouring concrete and doing the tiles and tearing out carpets and all that stuff they would just as a family they would get together and it would sort of swap out rules to to flip houses and do all that and but they didn’t have to they could have paid someone to do it but they kind of wanted to just keep it in-house a bit but they said they had this bit of wisdom amongst them that they share with me what she said they said if you start to get the fuckits it’s expecting you you had enough doing some tasks in your about to start your feeling the temptation to cut corners and just get it over with I say stop stop when you get the fuckits and go do something else and come back another day when you’re refreshed and ready to do it right and I had I had gotten to the point where I didn’t I was not integrating that was them and I had had the fuckits with this process and that’s why I said I wanted to just crowdsource the editing and just say alright I’m letting the I’m letting the community steer this ship and it like it could be a Wikipedia have its own website which is a Wiki and people could do a fact checking and correcting and grammatical stuff and I’m just going to like going to go meditate in the mountains or something but it was a sweet deal to have you and have all this come together and for me to say okay this is I was like I guess I wasn’t probably going to go after some other Publishers and go through that process or tonight and I wasn’t going to raise do it I wasn’t going to do I get a Kickstarter or something for it cuz I just don’t have that that Network to leverage your Liam pretty much an itch with an itch so so it’s been a huge gift to have the the the gamble the business Gamble and the professional Gambler love that hoodie that you I feel like you are betting on me and I want to do my best to be a winning bet for for the Enterprise and for the reputation and everything so it is it’s also like a reason for me to be at an upright Citizen and M2 now we’re sort of in a reputational report as well and end with the good men project that’s a huge I don’t want to say burden for me to self remaining you know in the light of the light be reputable and and make sure that my path is is impeccable to certain standards and so it’s it’s a hopefully I am I can I will sustain that and and yeah it’s it’s an I guess I just want to make that point that there’s something beautiful about there being a friendship involved in this editing process that deep friendship and Anna and that ability to go through the sort of push back and the pull back and all of that which gets into the the the compromise of the actual and in the process I couldn’t imagine going I couldn’t imagine being in some cold sterile lifeless Dynamic with under a contract where you just want to let you know I’m sure I know a lot of authors go through that or a lot of creative people just go through as well and someone else has some Authority there the process like what’s the title going to be with the cover are going to be and it’s going to be it’s just been a very very nice homey welcoming process working together so far and and yeah I think that that that’s a good a good rap on the sort of the form of this of this process now if you want to get into the content and I am really I love for you to start to start us off with that and I’m I will come in with them with some thoughts about how really you saved my life in this process you’ll probably count you’ll probably introduce it for us but if not I will all follow up with it so it’s oh yeah what would you say now about the your perspective on after we ain’t the deal in in in your Yugioh you’re you’re now incentivized with with the under your under under your relationship with the company you know you’re incentivized to do this as and now we’re now we’re Partners right we’re now and now we’re Partners more so than before and so so you’ve got it you’re digging in and was being of the socket and capricci not too late and you know throwing that causing you to throw it out to this idea of when you presented it to me I was like this Echo back to the forest it was like she’s going to try to do editing by consensus in a group and it’s like you remember how that would usually turn out it would usually the people saying fucking walking away from the meeting story it’s like we’ve got to figure something else out with it and this will you know you remember when I read through and was looking at it we were trying to figure out what is really the story we have here because as it was presented a common thing that you know any writer does especially when they’re drafting something is we have this tendency to fall back on the front of logical trying to be autobiographical it’s like you’ve got the order of events in the order they happened to your head because you lift and so when you start to write on your right or that way and especially for the Contemporary audience it’s like it just really isn’t compelling to read send you out in the layer that you know there’s a lot of the chronology of this story before you get to anything that is kind of a feel-good moment and so thinking about the reader in my it’s like I was like all right we need to do something from the story a beginning part that is compelling the makes sense that has a vehicle to tell the story through maybe so that we don’t have to like try to Drudge through all of this really heavy dark demonic schitt’s until we get to the end of the book when everything’s resolved because contemporary readers aren’t going to do that so that was really the first layer yes and then so you can see how you can you use skillfully set this up so I can introduce that what it was that that evolved into the solution to that conundrum and and it was the way that you were able to really get me woke about the situation I didn’t put up much of a fight at that moment cuz I knew you’re a hundred percent right and it wasn’t hard to convince me at that point because literally in the manuscript I gave you the sort of prologue or the sort of preface was that it was actually a warning to say you’re you’re going to you really have to be I don’t remember exactly exact words it was totally there the least inviting yeah I like abandon all hope ye who enter something kind of think so and it and really I would have to have I would have to be a rockstar or some other form of established sensation for four people to to actually break that seal and go through it on her own but if there’s a given where it where I’m at right now you know I don’t have and I had thought about that too unlike you know this is probably something I will publish for a lot of reasons I’ll wait until my dying day whenever that is to sign some authorization for this to be released and I had thought about how well there’s people who were alive who are referencing the story and it’s not going to take you no more than putting two and two together you know to match people and places and what not and of course you have to have for legal reasons keep it a fictitious Encompass the ticket fictitious names but you know but I’ve I’ve lost a bit of sleep wondering how certain people will will react to how they’re involved in in the in the story I feel like I’ve done my best to try to make everyone involved have some sort of some sort of a dental qualities or what not but but that I guess it’s another story but getting getting into that that that critical moment of every frame at at the beginning and end what you told me about making it you know accessible to read making it actually it has to be enjoyable even if it’s disgusting and it has to be so otherwise like you said and I got that immediately as well as if you want to create something that people if you want to create a material that can be published in a peer-reviewed journal of academics who want to study sexology or paranormal psychology for a second science or whatever then I’m sure you could present I could presented a conference and say that this is my research and here’s my crazy manuscript that’s 400 pages and transcription and all of his chronology but for it to be a novel or have that that scalability in the culture it certainly there’s enough love there’s enough ice to I think I remember hearing recently somewhere that I think on IMDb or something like that a Shawshank Redemption is still one of the most on something by some Metric Shawshank Redemption is considered still the most worshipped movie ever and I can’t say that’s box office sales of some other metric but that is not a particularly there’s no wet there’s almost no women in the movie there’s almost no romance in that movie it’s a bunch of guys in prison raping each other beating each other and try and in trying to escape from the most heinous abusive abusive Authority but it is the Redemption of hacking the system and figuring out how to find your soul and find what matters in and I even believe in from antonchak sense there’s a moment where the Shakti energy is comes through the speakers when he had when he breaks that he gets the record and he locks himself in that they’re the PA room and he plays the opera singers out you know that that’s the goddess right there so if that story can do what it did and that was a Stephen King story and then made into a movie and all that thing but it has to have that a certain Cadence in a certain flow and in in a certain mystery for people to have to put in meat meat meat the story Halfway by having a Kinect dots and not having its food Fenton spoon-fed over the course of a chronology with all of this dance academic material so so the thing that I guess before I get or nah I’ll let you a personal say okay from now on when I say when we say the words we receive the letters mfp we are referring to Magic fucking pussy who is who was my Divine tantric dakini consort who really takes most of the credit for giving giving me the most blessed in the most Redemptive outcome that would that was that wasn’t suicide and it wasn’t deeper addiction and depression and just melt melt down and it really the the hero of the story that didn’t exist in the manuscript because a manuscript was just a telling of events up until right before I actually got involved with mfp in real life it was all just painful dark negative and then some some spiritual Revelations and some some spiritual insights about how these things all work and how trauma works and how abuse works or is how it functions I should say but but there was no payoff and there was no really beautiful romantic Redemption and that but but but that did actually in the manuscript I was I had not included the the what would have just been the next chapter in the chronology was like oh yeah and then I met this woman who totally like loved on me the way I needed to be loved on and vice versa and now you have that element of a beautiful enjoyable school and you were the Catalyst Wilhelm in this process of making me have an aha moment to say wait I do have a device and it’s not a contrived device it’s actually the most beautiful lakes in the pearl it is she has been and is and is in the story The did the did the Highlight the Pearl the trade however you want to do when a call is so I’m kind of fumbling now trying to put in contacts but I’d love to have for you to talk about how how we navigated that that sort of question mark of how to make it a story a really difficult rhinology Indian Redemption you’ve got that and what better way to make it more palatable than to make it a love story you know and that’s kind of where it’s funny because you are you and your listeners know of mfp me in my mind it’s j because that’s the character named you used to develop the love story that we needed to really tell this story and it was really like you going fast-forwarding through all of that story and realizing there was this anchor moment of the healing Journey where there was it was Mutual it was like Drew The Mentor in Bohemian came and it was like house flipping the whole thing around it’s instead of leaving Las Vegas word entry in Las Vegas right from the get-go we should never put her clothes back on I whispered after catching my breath you know and it’s like once that was there it was like okay now we have a way to really tell the story but it stopped perfect way that was already in coded in the story to begin with it was just a matter of writing it in it has been missed in the first few passes but it makes sense in the the process of compiling the story because going through and transcript going through court records going through Protective Services records going through cancer only through your old journals remembering the stories and writing them out and through all of that as well as having the emotional distance of the writer in transcribing all of this stuff in also once we unlock that box and discovered this the perfect element that was already there that’s when it’s like hey okay we just start not from the beginning of this life story of this drama we begin with the mentoring of the one who gave the healing that’s where my real story is and that’s where it’s funny because it’s like you know it’s it’s your life story but it’s her story right amazing yesterday at sunshine remember that I have a moment because you’re asking me the conversation was it would I we just have to come up with something to make the NIT really at night how could I have I guess the way the only logic that I could I could imagine I’m sure I was going to send you the time is it will but that’s that would be the second volume because right in that they can go to the vet that just that that that krinock chronological bias there’s not going to be a second volume to put it in so there’s another Cosmic giggle at work here which is at I just I’ve been binge-watching a lot of them making of movies behind the scenes could type of movies because of the the the dabbling and in film that I’m doing and and I just really are so many movies that have built me in that are in my heart and so I get almost the most pleasurable experiences that I have fully clothes I should stay or come from watching these behind the scenes and making-of documentaries and I just recently watched the movie Casino one of the one of the making of or behind the scenes documentaries on casino and and it’s totally timely to this conversation because Nicholas Pileggi who was the author producer screenwriter researcher and he he was the one who who mapped out all of the the historical chronological timeline of events that that are depicted in the film casino but in in the actual documentary he said it was he said you know I had all these if he had the history the history and there cannot chronology of events all laid out on paper but it was the magic of Scorsese who was able to make it into an entertaining film because he was able to mash it up and create all of these different constantly I mean this is this is just now I’m not trying to quote him anymore but this it was perfect timing that I saw that because that was exactly the crossroads that we were at really wrote where we’re at right now is because we still editorial past of you getting Jade written in to the story and then I know through that it unlocked other things that was like okay well they stop going to be in that in this needs to be and it’s like getting that all in but there was will be suctioned swear it was these long pieces of transcript these long pieces of fight notes from sessions and it was just like you know I would hit it going through Reading it was just like all four wheels in the butt smell like the story just comes to you know it’s like nobody’s nobody’s going to look down and they’re going to get distracted they’re going to check their like Twitter what I started to do is I was going through and I was like okay this opening part that we have this opening scene is really good but then it’s like it’s still was continuing on with that way kind of chronology for that whole scene and it’s like well this is our open like it really doesn’t fit well because it’s too much of the scene and it’s the beginning of the book and the reader doesn’t know why the hell they’re reading the book at all it’s like now yeah it sounds good it’s great but it’s like there’s no there’s no conflict there’s no nothing so we need to start generating that and then it was like okay so now I have to start looking at this as like four sections at a time you know because you sent me what is it about 50 sections that we’ve got and then I started to look at them four to five sections that are and it’s like what’s going on with this chunk of the story and how can we play around with it and rearrange it so that it’s more interesting more to tell him because we’ve got a few challenges going on here you know we’ve got what we talked about already about like the difficulty of the story in itself then creating the character which was there all the time in the story but realizing that it was actually her story that we needed to tell because that made it really interesting and then trying to cut and piece it together and then you know way back at the beginning you mentioned that it was kind of sci-fi kind of this kind of that and it’s like the reason it’s that kind of sci-fi is because the subject matter that we’re getting into we don’t really have the vocabulary or terminology to talk about accurately so that had to be created and borrow she had to be borrowed a little bit from it had to be borrowed a little bit from biology had to be borrowed from together and kind of breaking that story line up and kind of letting it just sort of fall into place and I don’t like that bouncing ball you know because what we started with what you experience with the reality of this story is in the two stories yours and hers that were telling within it is it was fucking chaotic as all hell the way the stories being told needs to be told that way I know on the street you experience in these orders but in the healing and the deconstruction and the analysis and the free packaging and the use of it it didn’t happen that way bread and for the 4th for it to be this is something that when I did my first feature film acting role very independent very low budget and but I have high hopes for it and it is also in the editing process now and that’s going to be who knows it could have it could be a non-event it could be a major event there certain the elements of it that I I’m I’m sworn to secrecy about it because it has a very novel plot architecture that it’s almost like a trade secret kind of NBA kind of thing right now so I can’t say much about it but I will say that I have I have been in a legitimate independent as as Bonafide as it gets an independent film and I have performed in that and in that in that process I was gleaning from the producer director of the film everything I possibly could about lighting about camera angles about setting up shots about everything that you know this cuz he’s a very accomplished very respected filmmaker and and of course I was taking all kinds of notes in the process and one of the things that I remember and I can say this you know what kind of big lie but when we were when when we were doing scenes where there was dialogue and I was supposed to not tell my story per se but basically create the story of the character for the for the introduction of the character to the people and I was I was instantly just buy my nature by my training I was basically giving in academic lecture mode trying to trying to give the the 101 the one or two there were two o one that and so in the way that I’ve always been trained to to deliver information and academically and it in a sequential sequential matter that everything goes on a self that you wouldn’t go to a college course and expect that okay everybody we’re going to just completely discombobulated the structure of the of the history of this field and I’m going to teach you all about what’s happening now and then throw in a little mysterious bits of the history of it so that you can be confused for like half the class and I just keep you confused the hope for half the class and then you’re going to get to the enjoyment and the pleasure and the glory of stitching it together in your own subconscious in your unconscious mind and your part of the time you’re going to be in your own Narrative of trying to sort things out but that’s the difference between between an academic narrative and entertainment narrative is that you were wanting in a neat so he would tell me when I was doing his like nose stopped you look you need to be more cryptic you need to give them leading sort of mysterious sort of my little bits and M and there and let them Stitch it all together from from I guess if you take that to the extreme you have keep the quintessential Pulp Fiction or Tarantino thing where there’s all these different fragments that are totally disconnected yeah yeah yeah not postmodernist deconstructed storyline which is definitely you know. Not only is an influence within the work they were working on but it needs to be there to be able to tell that good story and that’s kind of something that you know especially with my editorial work with connection Victory is when I go into edit I need to like major reconstructive surgery on this thing but the actual Aberdeen of the story in the word from the grammar the mechanics of How It’s put together is really light because I don’t want to change the author’s voice at all I want to find a way to cut it down so that it amplifies that voice and the best way to do that really has to do is send it like the author Reed’s through it after you’ve done in there like I don’t even know where you at changed anything unless they’re holding him up side-by-side now of course from what you originally handed me to what we’re going to end up with my wife dropped you know I eventually delivered to you when we’re done you’re definitely going to know that it’s my hope that you know as we work through it and get it up to you you know copy ready you’re still hearing your voice all through it and that is it kind of need this back to the fukkit which definitely is something I’ve had to watch and working on this piece because it is so in-depth and working five sections at a time you know and like when you start off with like you know entering Las Vegas Queen of the duck the gummies a goddess among Lenin corpse work event rape culture that’s my first five sections and so by the time you work through that it’s like you’re kind of feeling just a little tiny – a fuck it employs step away and you take a break and you go out and like you stick your hands in the soil especially when I reach the five sections that start with Lady Ayahuasca move through other sections and end with masturbating on acid and an ambulance that was definitely a moment I need to stop and take a break because in true that it’s like bees is distractions that writers will right themselves into to avoid from having to address realities with a story where we talked around the word we talk around it and so editorial it’s like all of that is it’s like on Menaul and this and that and that we use in hedging invoice to like trying to think and prepare we do that in writing especially when you’re writing like that so when we start to take that out and it starts there’s also I’m discovering within the story and put the potential for what you’re working on the kind of like kind of come out and it’s like when I was working on Section entitled fighting Ness Monsters it’s like and I’m working across five sections together and stitching fit trying to make people in all this and everything in it it’s time-consuming okay and there was a point when I’m going along and if you just put that idea in itself I’m not going to say anymore it gave me a really good idea for a story I’d like to develop itself so the things that come out from the lines I could have made a total Twilight Zone well I’m glad I’m actually I was going to ask you if you would be daring enough to out yourself for having had that the moment that that that you share with me about that cuz it is so telling and that in itself is that is is just takes and takes off on another tangent of another another story of like what and actually I had I did anchors me into want to say and I don’t know if I would have mentioned this but I definitely think it’s critical that I do is that I don’t wish I don’t think that was it when it when I had that that disclaimer in the beginning of this it was really sort of like what we would call in the modern parlance of of more conscious more evolved discourse that the whole notion of a trigger warning so it’s it’s almost like this the the haven’t you see sometimes on posts online no trigger warning all caps bold trigger for sale for me the the the scale of trigger warning that would have to be put on this like if there was a trigger warning security alert scale than this book would be off that scale because of how triggering it could be in so many ways and and and I can’t even account for the VA the notion that let’s say this is red a kind of feel like like I have the retention for having such a severe warning the beginning is that the way that I just feel like if you were not extreme Survivor on the edge of an existential crisis meltdown suicidal ideations this probably shouldn’t be on your shelf next to Catcher in the Rye and Of Mice and Men and wakesetter this this is an extreme piece of work that that I want to I want it to be because I am somewhat afraid about the what what the side effects could be from even being exposed to this if it’s not necessary know you would rather in the words of Terence McKenna just whistle past the graveyard in life if you can possibly avoid going to these territories and so there’s that tension and needs to be I don’t know what the effect will be in the fact that you had that experience is Testament testimony shift for myself in it is the first it’s like yeah yeah that’s why I need to be told and yeah as far as you know trigger warning this time everything you know there’s that little back blur that goes on the back of the book you know that gives you the brief rundown or it’s on the inside flaps of the Dust jacket if it’s hard bound with the cover and everything like that it’s like that’s where that’s really what the trigger warning is it’s like if you look at any book it gives you that basic breakdown of the story you’re going to be reading so you know that’s where we put the trigger warning without having a trigger warning the other aspect of it is kind of a little bit of the story itself is the by editing we are banishing the demons that were in coded into a true writing so that’s another perspective on it but this whole idea of like hearing that voice behind me saying you know a week and just didn’t you get this. All right now that’s really it’s coming from when I’m editing I’m editing and free Minds the first mind is the mind of the editor and I’m looking at compelling story proper grammar all of that artifice mechanics structure then I’m also looking and thinking and reading it from the mind of the reader you know the reader has no idea about the story and what’s to come or what’s gone into it or where it’s come from they’re just taking it at face value then I’m reading from the mind of the writer the author in their voice where they’re coming from so I think that’s really like you know what the the depth in the intensity of the story and then reading with all three of those mines through all of this it’s not really surprised you know I was having. Like you know at that point in the story The Mention Of going and you know doing some speed to get the story done it wasn’t no wonder that you know it’s like I’m I’ll be 50 this year I’m not getting on any skateboard but I’m cut that itch to get back on the board and steel. fastest around me and everything and it’s it’s due to be a versus nature of the editing and it’s also a testament to the quality of the writing storytelling well well I have to say that the character situation I think that if that wasn’t that the moment that I that I have the epiphany of what I had to do I mean it’s been my intention to be like okay if I wouldn’t wish I always say I don’t wish reading this book on my worst enemy but I have to I have to impose it upon Humanity because if I don’t impose this then everything that’s in there that is the evil dark side of the force is going to impose itself without resistance so it’s kind of like you know when it goes back to something I said when I was first starting to just come out about any of this stuff to anybody I I said I said dissemble a friend at one point is if you know what I don’t think I want to tell my story because I feel like I’m I’m the turd in the punch bowl and I am and they said no dude don’t worry about it you’re the punch in the turbo that’s perfect so on that note that the punching that your balls the hearing about you got your experience with this I said okay I’m going to break off break out some of my Bitcoin Holdings and sell it off and get you booked on a session with my one of my Tantra can the initiate Rick’s is Rhoda Jordan for a personal contract counseling session to sort of massage your shoulders a bit while you’re in the ring fighting with this material and you don’t know no no pressure to to to give her a call it like a you mean like her compassion bleeding through that was so embracing that I could just float away on I don’t have to say anything full disclosure we are not being a we’re not we’re not an infomercial but anything you know you like to say that is just factual from experience about that just so people know hey look I want I want I want Wilhelm to be very very supported this process because and I should say before you before you do share we like to share I will put this in context to my own my own journey of actually writing this and I say this a lot I say I make this and make this point to people when I give them advice when they’re having a Dark Night of the soul and they feel like they’re being attacked by everything inside of them everything outside of them is a look when you when you I said make this analogy to let’s say if you were in that you know a Nazi concentration camp right and you figured I would say you were going to not sit just bear with me for a moment here but if you were in a Nazi concentration camp and you were able to discover some weakness in the facility so that you could actually start to carve your way out or start to have an escape plan or start to somehow get Leverage get an upper hand the moment that you become the moment that you set off that that alarm or set off that awareness in your captors in the guards who are keeping him holding you captive as soon as they know that you have an upper hand that you have some form of intelligence or some form of power that could be that could be used to organize other people or two could be used to create a a Revolt or somehow Break Free that’s when at that moment of their discovery of your upper hand or your potential power that’s when they go after you and they’ve date they they gang up on you and they start to put their more sophisticated officers on you to watch you or to surveil you are too for you or to destroy you so there is this what I would call a joint with this term like that the shamans dilemma I guess if you will was like if you if you start with z sting these entities these forces demons Paris the trans-dimensional parasitic organisms whatever you want to call them after this the purpose of the Sci-Fi that we’re dealing with there is this sort of effect that is if you were to just remain silent and go through the motions and keep your head down and in and make no no obvious claims that you have the way the means to defeat them then they won’t they won’t really attack you that much they will just slowly mind you and slowly extract from you and slowly destroy you but it’s when you stand up and you speak out and you come out and you start to organize and you become a threat to their their order and that’s when all hell breaks loose and they start coming after you even even more so that that all of that is to say that this story as an act of resistance against evil it is going to as gets exposure on any level as I shared on any level it’s going there they are over there in their realm and their Dimension and they are like the Goblin King in Labyrinth are there creating their tactical strategies to mitigate this risk and that is a real a real tangible real if you dare to to believe that that there is an intelligent force of evil working against forces of good then then it’s then it’s reasonable not just to assume that but actually and I can say for my experience like when I was writing this the bulk of it when I was given a grant basically I should say kind of going jumping back in time going at a at a chronology here going back to the year 2014 I spent pretty much the whole year spending of a small but life-changing Grant so that I could focus on actually writing out and doing all of that that book material transcript thing in NM and then going into the events in the past and and writing like what what resulted in four to five hundred Pages at the end of the year was time that I spent and and I was her rained during that process there was resistance against my Tervis counter-intelligence counter resistance against my prices are doing that and luckily in my my seeking of the pranic healing modality as which weaves into the story in a deep way the pranic healing modality I went to a a meet-up presentation and I got this pamphlet this little brochure that talked about the that what they call this therapeutic Clint aura-cleansing saltwater bath formula and they talked about using 4 cups of if you can get the Hamlet of a Himalayan salt more natural full source of the cell material and 4 cups of salt per bath and go into a bath and basically be in this the saline solution and according to their that the science of that modality you are doing the work of many healing sessions of many human healers doing energy healing work on you and purification work you can sort of replicate that effect by just being in salt water and having em so I made me think about what’s white Surfers orso’s in these entities are dissolved and they are inhibited and they are sort of blocked in in that when you were sick when your aura is immersed in a sit in a saltwater solution you have this this freedom and peace of mind and this this sort of votes like a barricade and I’m in and that was precious to me when I discovered that my immediately started doing it and as the Press during resistance of be trying to write this the scum he’s kind of like all over the keyboard all over my hands like pulling me out of the process I actually literally wrote the majority of this book in a bathtub with it with a nightstand that I was when I was in Lotus position in the bathtub leaning over to a nightstand obviously you want to take extreme precautions not to put any Electronics near water so I was in there steaming up the screen typing and and listen to psychedelic trance to keep me in this Cadence of flow and I was barreling through it but with as much of my body as I could submerged in saltwater and that actually like what would you say shit is short-circuited their connection if there was no ability for them to break through into me so if I knowing that I lived through that and I was like okay here editor take this with no disclosure no cabin in Torino Italy I I do I have worried and invented concerned about your well-being and where I was staying at it was at my sister’s and I was working on a stump out for and I’m so I had my hands in the dirt like every day for that would work on work on editing the book and then I would go get my fingers in the dirt and I’ll get my fingers to the church and then I would go and I got to caution you you want to wash your hands and dry them before working in electronic devices after doing the butt that was a big part and I’m not it was a very simple very basic session but it was getting that connection with somebody else who wasn’t directly involved in the story but knew the story and was part of the healing journey of that story and it was so like in the story but you know in in other ways and so to have the and also to to make that connection so the moving for removing through the rest of the word moving through all of these things that you had to short-circuit them take him through knowing that if if there’s any any oddness that starts to pop up you know I’ve got that person who is not connected to the story that I could reach out to and that was I really thought it belonged my canker safety-net Lifeline to have that knowledge into no okay if things start spiral I know this is where to go and that that once. Compassion Cloud will be there without having to really go into you know the specific details of the book in the afternoon cool well yeah and then end goddess blessed Rhoda and it brings a tear to my eye thinking about where where we have arrived at because in this conversation is really that the heroes are these goddess and bodied women who just seem to be so far beyond susceptibility to some of the other things that have brought down men in the picture and not from a place of love really I mean the empowered feminine in the form of Rhoda in the form of mfp and Jade and the it’s just so that’s the ultimate Redemption is is the the path of seeking the divine feminine and that’s in even even the even this gummies themselves like that’s all they really want to have they want the Gremlins want to be Maguey again you know they intended they’re just going to rip through everything until they find the means to be to be restored in tomorrow and let you know I’ve said it a few times without these women there would be no story for this book it wouldn’t eat I mean without intervention like with Rhoda without works like with Jade without development. Relationship without the understanding and. Desire to gain the knowledge in the openness to accept it and to go into the extreme this of it sure nothing other than like you no experience and to heal without all of that I mean not really sure like how old is story would have liked ended up coming out or if it would have ever came out you know so it really without that piece of the puzzle being unlocked and being not just put into the story but becoming the story we really wouldn’t have anything to work with and there’s a lot in that I am not just for you know your story getting out your book getting time me and like it in the oven in time connection Victory publishing the but all of that kind of secondary to the main reason which is getting this information out to people to not only kill those who have been too abused also to give the opportunity to heal the abusers that are out there as well so that we can finally move on to the next level of social amen totally agreed on that and I I I could only imagine how yeah how how beautiful or Dent if it would be for those who are abusers and who I could just imagine that this work it seems totally appropriate that this work be part of curricula that are used in psychiatric prisons in places that rehab centers in diversion programs where I know that they know really the when I was well I was doing the research for this book I had I had to purchase the stack of books that that I was using to help help me help inform my ability to frame the stuff and and of course I read the Dharma punx and Dharma punx to me felt like the the Noah Levine is the author and and he his past and his trajectory of coming from being a street Punk getting into having relationship dramas and and police story dramas and getting into spirituality and then betrayals within spirituality and then hitting bottom and getting into recovery and then becoming a mentor and teaching meditation in prisons and working with youth and that that Arc of a story as I read that book a nice and I really thought okay well this is the the model the president and if I did have to pitch the story to anybody and say how will you know Siri say where is this work before why should we gamble on this story well if we can make something as compelling and as as accessible as Dharma punx then it can be this recovery manual and it can be this introduction in men what are things that I would say that was was I don’t want to sale a king or left to be desired but I will say that to you know I’d love to meet Noah someday I have a an invitation to do a podcast that haven’t heard back I don’t know if the fetish if that’ll be in the cards hopefully it will but something that I think would be a beautiful healing thing for both of us as punks who came from the street and got into drugs and told her story and are now in service that that the anguish that he experienced in his love-life I believe this is the piece that I have I can I can be complementary to his work in the world and in through this hopefully we bring that we we we we really we take that uncooked that sort of festering uncooked sexuality piece that’s missing from a lot of spiritual paths or sort of confused and distorted and week we cook it and we marinate it and we have a feast and that Feast is a fully embodied fulshaw craeg here’s how we bring it all together and we really heal everybody soul and we make it acceptable to to talk about our desires and acceptable to talk about what we got to do to heal each other and to think out-of-the-box and decolonize the bedroom and figure out how to talk to really intelligently use the sexual energy to to heal ourselves and each other and integrate that in the spiritual practice so that’s just another another little tension Theory but I would say that I dare say that the success of the Dharma punx movement could lend itself as a sort of president to a tantra Punk movement and I don’t want to be the leader of that movement I just want to be the messenger and so the real leader is to me or Jade and Rhoda and the other and of course sufiyana who you will you read about and we didn’t even go there but I’ll let that be part of their the Cliffhanger for this conversation and we’ll wrap up where we’re bit over time so well I’m thank you thank you thank you so much this really it was even a million times more revelatory and Injustice and Redemptive for me to have this call with you now in this process and it really is is invigorating and hopefully we will get through all of the fuckits as they continue to come up and we will take plenty of saltwater baths and not take any meds spend our math money on Rodeo sessions so anything would you like to talk to wrap this up and how could people connect with you and hire you to do take their entire back an avocado to make it into something ya Lili ya thanks for having having me on the show and putting up with me rambling about the weirdness of the editing process because it does get kind of weird but it’s that’s part of the fun of it and yeah I navigating all this little buckets and people are interested can get a hold of me via email Global Nomad way at gmail.com is pretty easiest one I’m also like if you look at the Masthead the front page of the good men project. Com you’ll find my email it’s a man email address there as well and are working on a book on if an author is interested in that keep in mind it is not a short process to be done right and you know from really delivery of manuscript to final products you’re looking realistically about 3-4 years and you know the smoothest case scenario which rarely have outside of God Mom I also do work with helping to cultivate and develop individuals creativity and that’s it was a lot more fun for me and everyone else involved it’s not as much but it’s also can I throw a curveball to your Consciousness to unlock your creativity a little bit deeper so I have to add one thing of that which is that if it’s not me it’s somebody is going to make you a voice acting star and a narration star because damn if anyone listen to this and we’ll get better out of your quality but I think you have an amazing voice and it’s always just a pleasure to hear you speak I just on the sound wave vibrational level and the wisdom and the care in the thoughtfulness I know it’s it’s coming out in this process and I’m excited to enjoy the other works that you’ve done and through connection Victory and Beyond and please by all means go to the good men project support the project do you want to just maybe say one more thing about how we really need to support independent media journalism the real the real mess up that is disappearing day-by-day you know we know of print media is especially journalism newspapers it’s rare to find any more websites same thing it’s a very difficult unless you are Facebook or Google there’s money isn’t there to support it and keep it out there it’s like everybody’s always complain you know for a medium sized Media Company especially trying to grow it’s almost impossible to keep afloat and that is a precarious situation in the current socio-political climate and if you have a media company it doesn’t matter if it’s the good men project ravishly or your Tango or anything’s that is supported independent journalism especially things that are working and advocating the end of these oppressive systems that are making all these problems for us support them with your words share on social media like comment subscribe join register membership if you have lots of surplus cash laying around that you just don’t know what to do with it you were going to just throw it away out of just sheer frustration send it to these media companies they were the writers with it yeah and I also know that the more blessed I become and my finances the more I will be able to take care of you and and sponsored more or you going to need a lifetime supply you already earned a gold card from me as afforded insist going to be at me because this honestly and I guess this will be that this will be the last thing right now for me to say to close this is that from the time that that you received this manuscript to this very moment if this becomes successful there will be multiple sequels and follow-ups already so hopefully if there is a benefactor benefactors out there listen to this and you would like to facilitate this process being celebrated then by all means let’s talk because we could even structure some form of you know Angel investment type of strategy if you believe that there is that there’s Merit here because there’s more forthcoming and hopefully we can just let the hits keep on coming if if if they’re if it’s meant to be so thank you again I can’t thank you enough and hopefully I’d say the next time we do this it’ll probably be as a part of a campaign to lunch this much this book so yeah yeah we’ll see what happens next to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com can cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provides ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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Empowering Sex Workers in East Los Angeles with Alejandra Aguilar Avelino TPP184

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In this episode I’m honored to be joined by Alejandra Aguilar Avelino, an advocate, educator and service provider at the East Los Angeles Women Center. We met there recently at a Sex Workers Outreach Project event and she gave a moving speech to explain a piece of art she created in solidarity with the victims of sexual violence.  Her extensive experience in community support work is truly profound and she shares some very deep and intense insights on the intersections of religion, sexuality, economics, and politics.

We explore the efforts and potential to organize male clients of sex workers  to show more solidarity and do more to support the health and well being of sex workers, and she shares some of her hopes and dreams for expanding the scope of services and outreach in the future.

I was very grateful to learn from her and to share a passion for improving the outcomes and quality of lives for sex workers through their whole life cycle. I’m hoping that her work and that of her peers and colleagues will be well financed so they can carry on doing such important work!

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https://www.elawc.org/

https://www.facebook.com/elawc/

Alejandra Aguilar Avelino immigrated to the United States from her native Michoacán Mexico when she was eight years old. Alejandra has more than 16 years of experience in the field of Community Education. Alejandra’s beginnings were with Planned Parenthood Los Angeles as a Promotora Comunitaria. Alejandra had the honor to serve as Secretary and Chair of ALIANZA, the Los Angeles Caucus on HIV/AIDS in Los Angeles County.Currently Alejandra is the lead health educator, HIV counselor and support group facilitator at the East Los Angeles Women’s Center where she does HIV Navigation services. . Alejandra also provides support services to HIV-positive women and is an active member of several community planning bodies dedicated to the empowerment, health and well being of people. Alejandra has presented in several conferences at local and state level. Some of Alejandra’s passions are continuous learning, the empowerment of Latina Women, and she fights tirelessly against Gender Violence and Reproductive Justice. In her spare ?me Alejandra enjoys spending time with her family, hiking, reading and expanding her own small online business which she also uses as a tool to help other women reach economic independency.

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Com and our journey together will begin welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 184 I’m being joined by Alejandra Aguilar and she is the health educator an HIV counselor at the East Los Angeles Women’s Center and we sort of met at a recent sex workers Outreach project event on December 17th which was the international day to end violence against sex workers and there was a beautiful creative artistic kind of community building event that was held there and that was the first time I had visited the East last night Women’s Center and I was very thrilled to know that that the place exists and of the great work they’re doing there and Alejandra was hosting the event through the space and has some really powerful and moving things to say about the work that she does in support of women’s health in and sexuality health and education and so I was very moved and thought I’d reach out and see if she like to tell us a bit more about her personal background and about what the great works that are offered at the center there so I’ll a hundred thank you so much for joining me looking forward to hearing more about your story thank you thank you Ben and thank you for inviting me to be part of this podcast so as you mention my name is HIV counselor at the East Los Angeles Women’s Center and yeah I recalled that for a little over 42 years and one of the things that we always want to let people know is that this is a place where women silence is hurt for the community has their silence and so we decided to open up our space so that sex workers and their allies and come in and and have a safe place to meet and so I have been working in the field of HIV for in reproductive health for a little over 14 years and you know when I arrive to this country when I was 8 years old and one of the reasons why I’m very passionate about advocating for Women Health is because specially for the health and well-being and the needs of let me know is because many times Latinas specially Latinos who are aware of the services that might be out there to support them and so one of my one of my reasons for being an ally in in the the support of sex workers is to be able to avoid the needs of women especially one of the things that I did was I was a child care provider even though I was a child myself I used to babysit that the children of many sex workers women who were immigrants who worked up at sex workers and so I got to see a lot of the needs that a lot of the new show of the women and definitely a lot of them are children and so you know as I was getting older I decided to to look into this route of being of service to to the community by advocating for the needs of your penis growing up I got to see how special immigrant women for sexual abuse that shows fault interpersonal violence and definitely sexual explotation and when I started working at the East Los Angeles Women’s Center I thought this is perfect I get to work for an organization that is aligned with my beliefs and here I am 14 years into providing Services Organization advocating for the woman’s name well that is so powerful and thank you so much for sharing that and specially about your personal background ATS really moving to me I know that there that there is a lot of really strong feminist history and in feminist movement history around women sexual health and and support services and also and sort of sort of vaguely aware of different tensions that there have been within the feminist movement around 7 is sewer or not as supportive of sex workers or of women who were involved in the adult industry and some some who maybe are more supportive some curious if you have had to navigate any of those those politics within the women within the women’s movement about the sort of taboo subjective of the sex industry not necessarily you know I am very fortunate to be in this organization I’m very fortunate to have a strong network of providers that believe in advocating for everyone and when we say everyone it means every single person regardless of what they’re definitely here at the women’s center we do not see people for what they do we see them for who they are and so when we see when we see you know a sex worker we see them for who they are first and foremost a human being have to keep for them or what you would like and definitely no I haven’t encountered any of that it does not mean that it’s not the doesn’t accept them pretty sure there’s so many people that have encounter with you but I myself have not I’m really glad to hear that because I got that Vibe definitely that there was no judgment and no no sort of distance or or or judgment you about about that because it is so it is so much a part of life and people want to ignore it or people want to just hiding from it but it’s it’s a real serious issues I appreciate it very much that that you hold that space and and I want to thank you for doing that so if you could help us understand a bit about what the the most vital needs are of those those women who are doing work in the sex industry what are some of the things that people should know about as far as what they face on a daily basis and even ways that that people who are maybe just wanting to support them where are they they want to be allies how they can also be supportive but would definitely I cannot speak for everyone but I can’t I am able to speak for those who I have been fortunate and humble enough to provide services doing these are the Immigrant Latinos who work in the bars on the country has most of the time you asked about their needs what their needs are definitely there’s a lot of me to to provide them with resources resources and when I say resources what kinds of resources and support that they need to let them know about the right and to let them know that if they have been abused molested in any way that there is are places that can help them if they need just a space where they can just feel safe that there’s such a space about what we hope to who provides many of the women that we service the well-being overall well-being we are always concerned about their health their physical health or emotional health because we know that it can take a toll on their health specially those who work at night all we know that is if it can be difficult for them to to take care of that their help because the majority of them are also mothers and because they are mothers you know many times Latinas put the needs of their own meat how can I say it they put their needs before the needs of anyone else and they last one but they’re nice and so I want to advocate for them we also want to let them know that they have rights we hope to educate them about the right within the women that we service some of them are hiv-positive and so will support them we support them by providing resources for their help for them so that they can receive the services well thank you very much again for doing that work in something that I that I have been made very much aware of by my association with women who who would be considered those very strong feminist critique of the patriarchal economic structures and just the way capitalism works and how how this Empire is really built on on its own built on the backs of immigrant labor and and and from what you’re saying it’s also built on the bodies of the sex workers who who serve a lot of different types of male laborers and I’m wondering what if you care to share from your personal perspective what are some observations are inside sore or strong feelings you may have around what the what the role of men who may be there maybe they are sex buyers or maybe they are temps or maybe they are you know what and then you can any level of that economy do you ever have the opportunity to to Enlighten them or two to help them become more active in doing the support work for the for the women or what what is your feeling about the men who are just kind of you don’t hear a lot about the John’s or the Pimp C male a male and get you component we are thinking by myself a big advocate for making change in our communities mobilizing one of the one of the things that I do is when I am able to speak to groups of men and provide them with information writing with resources to do is to let them would like for them specially if they are consumers of the services of the women who are sex workers Michael is for them not to think of the women as object to know that there’s a story behind them that there that these women might have gone through many struggles am I making sense yes this is amazing I love to hear it to hear more about it cuz I feel like it’s so lacking it’s so lacking in that people actually try to educate them and whether it’s about using condoms or or being just mine. I’m being respectful this is Range Community and to use their voice to Advocate from them as well to use whatever privilege they have as meant to protect them to advocate for them that’s definitely one one of our pools and one of the things that we hope to accomplish is for for men to go beyond those gender roles that they are putting the moment they are born we want them to understand that they can break out of that box I agree with you yes wow so if that that thank you so much for sharing those insights that they’re really really touches my my heart and soul because I feel like I’m as myself as a sex worker myself I’ve been mistreated and abused and certainly I would have loved for the very wealthy the wealth of the wealthier of my clients to to be giving back and supporting nonprofit organizations that actually create a better life and more resources 400 why wouldn’t you why wouldn’t you give back to to like a trade Association it was helping you have a good experience in helping you get your needs met so hopefully yeah I’m excited to hear about what you’re doing over the other people will do that kind of Outreach as well so if we could talk a bit about the I feel like it’s it would be important to give some context for people listening to this what what the scope of sexual assault really looks like from your perspective you’re really seeing and I again am I feel very honored to speak with you knowing that you’re you’ve chosen to be putting yourself in a position to have so much exposure and really be very empathetic and very compassionate towards people who are in times of Crisis and some of the the most extreme trauma and current crisis so you could help to sensitize the listeners of this podcast to do some what it what is sort of typical cycle is when you have someone to say come in for services who is in trauma or crisis and in kind of what whatever is appropriate you know for you to share but that I think would be good for us to understand that means we started in 1976 and actually disorganization begin you know it was first bilingual confidential 24 hour 7 days a week crisis hotline to be able to service and provide support to survivors of sexual assault what we do is we have a hotline and call if they have just been assaulted molested or phrase taking cold even if it happened many years ago in another country we provide supporting the support looks something like this we we do Hospital accompany me to go to the hospital to provide support to the Survivor of rape and we’re able to see people all ages for survivors from a baby to someone well over the age of 90 we see that again we see them for who they are we see them as human beings Survivor and we are basically there to support them we allow them to have a safe safe space to come in and speak support when and if they’re ready mix someone is ready and they would like to come in and receive support we can provide them with counseling therapy and again we never tell them what to do we are there in their healing journey in the journey to heal I said we’re walking hand-in-hand with them so where’s that the healing path and soul Moana singing about in 2016 I remember in 2016 we provided services to over 10,000 women and children on the hotline movie about 2,200 called so we’re pretty busy if ever since that Open Door hotline has never closed and twice a year would provide training for people to become sexual assault advocate so that they can help survivors they can do hospital but also so that they get the keys for the needs of survivors important so after all of this exposure that you and your colleagues and peers with organization in and near the community of people that you’re connected with her your allies in Von forcement in the justice system and that the hospital system and the the sword I guess there’s also the social services and Family Services sectors of thumb of the county and in local local governments I’m curious if you could talk about some of the powder and some of the insides whatever you’ve been able to kind of a phone some conclusions you may have arrived at just about to the patterns of abuse and where you feel like the most effective interventions can occur on the preventative side of this issue how to do there’s definitely a lot to do but we definitely one of our one of them nothing’s that needs to happen to be able to to end sexual assault and domestic violence definitely HIV we need to end violence against women and homophobia swell we definitely know that if we end violence against women we end homophobia we are very well and then into the HIV epidemic we are definitely going to see Alright by very much agree with that and tell me what comes to mind from me for my personal experience in for my studies and I love to hear what you had what you would have to stay from your perspective Which is far more I would say far from a highly developed than mine because of the position that you that you’ve taken up and and I would say with what are your thoughts on the you mentioned machismo that’s something that I’m interested to hear more about what what that where that comes from and what you would how you would advise people to deconstruct that that sort of some aspect of violence in and then also alcohol and Andrew role that you feel that plays or substance abuse and how that feeds into the violence well it’s definitely a collaborative effort of everyone social service providers to law enforcement to every single every single person has a responsibility to an hour in one of the things we have are you aware of basically the women from targeted community wengage and Outreach and education and what they do is they increase awareness of sexual assault and resources and domestic violence victims and their families but they also bring awareness and so one of the things that that we have here in our organization in mind you all women that can be women that are actively working a sex workers women for HIV positive Housewives just about anyone and they go through this training where they learn about their culture how their cultural experiences shape their identity with a lot of focus on the Latino cultures and Value Inn in the experiences that they might have had growing up and still one of the things that we encourage them don’t is to look at what what are the values of culture that contribute in a positive way to to have better communities to to make them feel safe right it in to make a change in the world and to keep those we encourage them to look at the one that can be toxic that can be done that perpetuate and we encourage them to to look at both and decide which ones they want to keep which ones they want to transmit to other generation so we start with that beautiful well thank you for doing that as well in I’m curious if we could go to the next question which is the just to the prevalence of alcohol and domestic violence I think is pretty well well known that a lot of sexual assault and violence happened in in circumstances that are sort of fueled by drunkenness and I’m curious if you have thoughts on to substance abuse and alcoholism and how that how that affects the work that you do and the the the women that you support but we do know that it art again you know what we need people were there as we don’t we do not follow up a model of trauma-informed that means we are not going to shame people if they have issues with substance abuse know we can help them try to get to the root of why they’re they’re using or why they’re drinking rice I can tell you definitely my perspective from what I saw growing now I can tell you that issues with alcoholism are very prevalent with the with the women who work in the bar and the emptiness sex workers because that is part of their work in order to make a living they have to drink with the client and so many women that start working in the barn and the emptiness when they start working in the bar on the time peanut they have never you know in their life they have never had a drink but once they start working out of their job it’s how they make that living and some many of them develop alcoholism that’s one of the things that I saw and so you know if you if you asked to do it that many have a history of abuse or trauma that it don’t even know that they have this history of abuser, they don’t even know what to name those feeling you know very bad idea that depression you have a very difficult situation for for the person you know when one of these again that I hate that I was able to see I was able to see because of the lack of support and empowerment and resources available to this woman I saw in a bunch of this day I still seen any of them Works who no longer work in the calendar because there was no support there was no one to assist them teach them how to how to make a budget how to save the money or even how to invest some of them and not only that but a lot of them ended up with issues of alcohol yeah I hear you and that actually comes at least to my next question really which is about what you see as some of the the positive outcomes and the I would say to be clear I don’t believe that it’s wrong to be a sex worker ever see for myself fight I am the part of the six work industry so there are some people would say well you just need to go to church and you need to quit the lifestyle and and and you need to leave it all behind you which I’m not I’m not here to say is this is right or wrong but but I will I will say that I’m very interested in what what six I think about the concept of a success story or someone who has overcome substance abuse or alcoholism and if they choose to remain active in the sex industry but I from a healthier place or if they choose to move beyond that I’m curious what you what are some of the pathways that you have facilitated or witnessed of of women who have become really empowered either is former sex workers or or or sort of sex workers in recovery what are some of the success stories that you would say that you’ve been a part of each other’s privacy and confidentiality if I can tell you that there’s this particular woman who is what after she became involved and after she was able to gather with other women saw other women like herself all about the right person for most of the human bean learn that there is nothing to be ashamed of learn to speak remind learn to Advocate Parker cell I was able to see an amazing transformation this is a person who now is able to speak up for herself this is someone who is able to negotiate pay for sex which I think it’s amazing to see this is someone who if she feels that someone is making her feel ashamed because of what she does she’s able to speak up she doesn’t know her head as she used to be for not just that but her priority priority priority herself above anything else in that include making better decisions when it comes to drinking that our decisions for her mean eating what you drink tea not not drinking as much as she used to before that you will forget to take her medication doesn’t make sense that is In N safety she she has been able to say she now has a savings account which is tremendous you know because now she’s planning or for the years I had to fight absolutely well I’ll take you out to other women beautiful well that’s that’s very good to hear and thank you again for doing that and just maybe a couple few more questions one will be going back to the the other half of the equation which is the the male role in and all of this into client role so I sounds like you’re yeah you have a lot of experience working with women who were in that that culture of the bar and cantina world and so like you said that there will be drinking is just part of the job and I’m curious if you if you could reach into the heart and soul of the the male clients and understand where they’re coming from and if they would maybe intergenerational trauma or or personal issues that they may be dealing with in and if we were to make if we were to all be working together to create more empowered and more conscious and then we’re healthy men and male clients and then maybe they would maybe this sounds ridiculous I guess but but I would love to see a world where where sex work is is legal and where people clients and and and service providers could meet up at a healthy juice bar or something or like a farmers market or something you know where it’s it’s not always in the context of of alcohol and that kind of sort of sector and so I’m just curious if when you think about this and when you work in this in this world if you do you have any advice for four men who are just maybe this sort of their kind of being set up or something I don’t know why I don’t know what you how you feel about just the whole the nature of that in of that that world of the the bar scene in the all that wouldn’t be able to provide education you know when I go out and we have those messages that week we share with with menopause sensitive to have healthy relationships with all the people in their life okay and do would you say while we’re on the topic of the Mennonite and I appreciate it and it sounds like what needs to happen is that more more men need to step up and organize and do Outreach it’s you already sounds like you’re already very your hands are full working with women and it sounds like that would be good for more men to anybody listening who has that the resources or the means to to do more Outreach Two Men and hopefully that will that will happen and I would say I just want another question just while we’re on the topic is if you if you feel like there is do you feel like a lot of the men who are of War buying the sexual services at women are they are they not really functional in their in their their own marriages that are on family life and are they I guess I don’t know like I said the other is there anything you can say about about the profile or the sort of in the attitude or the State of Mind of the mail client server or are they just a lot of single man to hoodoo don’t have a wife and that therefore they had they feel like they have to get through the day but with a beer you know with getting some drinks and inviting some sex and again there is so much so much change that needs to happen in one of them against the things that I be all that needs to happen from what I saw you know growing up in a very traditional community at 8 I was born in Mexico and I grew up in the town I was very religious it was okay for men to go to a bar in to go to La Cantina to look to spend some time with women right because many of them felt have to ask for certain things from their wives or their girlfriends was disrespectful and so they grew up thinking that the women that worked in the bar in the Campina where it was okay to have certain things of them right certain sexual things or even just to drink with them right again that idea that the women that worked in the casino or less than the women that are at home but that should not be the case that we can community that there’s this idea that yeah I’m going to go to the bar I’m going to go to the one with her right or she will be willing to deliver for a Spur to do and I cannot ask my wife to do that because she’s a good wife or she’s a good woman or she’s going to get offended if I ask her to do certain things when it might be very well that her wife at home or at home is wishing he will do those things with her because of how she grew up in this box that she was playing through gender role that don’t ask for something sexual well your violence violence that that if you are a good wife you would not dare ask for any of that and so that’s one of the things that I’m very passionate about teaching women again we let you know when it’s okay to to look for pleasure it’s okay to have conversations with your partner about certain things it’s okay to explore as long as you are both okay in the end it’s okay to look for a relationship with someone who is not going to feel threatened if you ask for certain things for your own pleasure well that is really powerful and I appreciate you saying that that really means a lot that really helps me understand a lot better and I hope I hope we can move towards that and and I appreciate the work you’re doing to create that space to explore and understand and and change the is paradigm so you’re so another question I have for you which is kind of this kind of extraordinary but I like to I like to do you know what some people call a thought experiment where you just think about what obviously you have you have some budgetary constraints and you have people power constraints but if you and your team or your colleagues the people you work within your organization if you somehow we’re blessed with the resources and the even just to say you won the lottery or something absurd like that but it was just say you had you had really almost Limitless potential or and Empower even politically to say okay this is all of this is all of the wisdom that we have and these are the proposals that we have and and if you just had what what you need to talk about investment and whatnot so if there was a if there was a venture capital firm that says we really think what you’re doing is important and we feel like that there is a benefit to society to have you you all have more resources and really if you if you had almost Limitless budget what are some of the things that you would do to to accelerate and grow and expand you know your services in certainly how I mean I would love to see since having been to the place you know your location I would love to see myself I would love to see you have more more acreage you no more land and something like the weirdest El Centro Farm was there some place where you can have Community Gardens in actual herbal Gardens in and healing natural areas and places for meeting that we’re outside and there were also safe and also had security so that’s just kind of what comes to my mind but I’m curious what you would do or what you would sort of dream up if you had almost no limits to what you can imagine wow there’s so much that we will definitely do love I can tell you that with a bigger budget we will definitely be able to since we will not have waiting list for four clients to to enrolled into into a program but definitely one thing will be to to increase to provide more support for the women that are hiv-positive because of budget I’m talking about financial support very limited women are always left behind and yet they’re the ones that love to see more help women’s health programs that are more sex-positive that are inclusive of sexual trauma Empower women to advocate for their sexual health definitely expand more men’s healing talking circles where they can wear the men pink and strengthen the relationship that we would love to see that but definitely if there was no monetary restrictions more more a healing circles or for women where they can talk about their health advocate for the health including their sexual health awesome thank you so much for sharing and I’m hoping that all of your dreams will come true you’re suddenly during such important and if I don’t work in the community and so yeah I wish you absolutely the best moving forward and hopefully yeah we’ll see each other again and then more more collaboration will happen that will be mutually supportive within our communities do you have any closing words you’d like to share and then also do you want to share the website URLs and any other links or any other ways to connect that would be great bilingual 24-hour hotline anyone can reach this hotline 24/7 the number is 800 5856 231 once again is 800-585-6231 and our website is www.ladwp.com org once again is so absolutely yes sir I appreciate it’s been an honor and do you have any last closing words you like to say is just a call to action or or things that you feel like if if people knew in NC could hear this voice than they would they would they would want to step up and and I guess it was before we say that you are a 501 c 3 charitable non-profit so donations are tax-deductible am I correct that we are especially in need of support because we have the only shelter in the mission where people can can go if they have just been sexually assaulted or if they have just landed on the hospital and they’re afraid to go back home or back to where the perpetrator or abuser is and we definitely need a lot of support for that our women’s HIV program a lot of sports comidas up with some sort of supporting in the dollar if you can share our website with others or even our Facebook page elawc please go ahead and do so we will be very grateful thank you so much Alejandro I think that was a really good introduction to all of the the work you’re doing and I hope that’s a lots of good things come from this and hopefully we will have meet again and and maybe we can follow up again and have you back on sometime in the future talk about some new developments and hopefully there’s there will be a lot more a lot more great things happening in the future so thank you again for your time and we’ll be in touch okay bye bye thank you for listening to the touch of Honey Pot www.entrepreneur.com can cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temple in every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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Sexorcism the Tantric Opera Episode 10 “Warrior Goddess”

She’s not easy prey
Holding pepper spray
Scanning her surrounds
Ready to stand her ground

Repelled by wild screams
Can’t get within arms reach
Rape artists beware
Fights like a momma bear

Predators
Will be on the run
Now that
She’s got a gun

You will learn
To stay away
Now that
Her dog is trained

Warrior goddess
Righteous rage, counter-offense
Warrior goddess
Fighting back, sacred violence

Our typical date
Is firing at the range
Then we hit the pads
And work on hand to hand

Fighting back to back
Loving eye to eye
Together we feel safe
Our love we fortify

How Female Masturbation and Orgasms are Saving the World Soul with Kit Murray Maloney TPP178

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Kit Murray Maloney

In this episode I’m joined by Kit Murray Maloney, an outspoken orgasmic organizer who’s been working and playing hard to start a proud self-pleasuring revolution among women. While male masturbation is taken for granted and catered to by the mainstream culture, female pleasure is still in many ways in the dark ages. Kit shares about her great work to re-enlighten humanity about the potential for healing, empowerment, pleasure, fun, relaxation, and more with female masturbation and orgasm.

She’s established a movement around the Pleasure Pledge where women commit to pleasure themselves thoroughly for 3 weeks straight, to learn more please go here: https://www.thepleasurepledge.com/

We discuss the need for thoughtful user experiences with online porn and her efforts to curate a more refined adult entertainment selection. We also commiserate on the need for shamanic pornography to become a thing so we can show religious pornophobes how sacred sexuality is to be respected rather than feared.

Please visit her main website here:
https://www.oactually.com/

About Kit:

Kit Murray Maloney is driven by her core belief that a celebration of women’s sexual pleasure, including female orgasms, will heal and better the world.

For the last two decades Kit’s been an activist, academic, and entrepreneur committed to channeling her passion for gender equity into a celebration of women’s sexual pleasure. She’s earned a Masters degree in Gender and Social Policy from the London School of Economics and has been featured in Marie Claire, Self, and Glamour magazines.

Kit launched O’actually as a multi-media platform for open and honest dialogue to release taboo of women’s self pleasure and to promote beautiful erotic work made by women for women. Kit is also the founder of The Pleasure Pledge, a free 21 day program inviting women to celebrate there daily orgasm.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 17089 being joined by Kid Marie Maloney who is the founder of oh actually and the pleasure pledge and she is a deep believer in celebrating women sexual pleasure and yeah please kid we haven’t had an extensive background of each other so please enlighten me tell me all about your beautiful wonderful self and how it is that you got involved in the sexuality sex positive and Liberation kind of movement wonderful friend thank you thank you for creating a space of the podcast and four and having me on it and I am yeah as you mentioned I am the founder of actually which is a space that is committed to engaging in the sphere of adults entertainment with intent around bringing some more openness and honesty and to that realm so that we can receive more pleasure and really lift out of some of the shadows and taboos that I believe are are cementing Us in real blocks around Shane and sexuality and so actually is really a space around that entry and celebration looking at something like foreign adults entertainment and moving beyond our assumptions that we might have and the taboo that we might carry and go in list and openness around what might be possible when we relieve some of the tension around the top who even within the realm of sexuality specifically in the round with sexuality and then the pleasure of that is a space to celebrate women sexual pleasure and it is a 21-day invitation to remember to celebrate their daily orgasm and there’s lots of support through that with daily invitations that offer women away to further nurture on and prioritize and enjoy their selves as orgasmic features and an experienced extremely wonderful and I can see I can I do this should be what the Surgeon General is getting behind to promote this I don’t know if you remember there was a time when there was a female search General who was fired for suggesting essentially that masturbation will be a great form of a defense against HIV spreaded believe that was what happened but women solo sax or masturbation is something that still trade such tremendous and yet I stand for it being this incredible healing power and so it is such a it’s a tragedy to me that we take this beautiful resource that we all have within ourselves and shouted it and a lot of misunderstanding and Tabu and so the pleasure pleasure is such a beautiful face of our whole system is set up to receive is there and if women shoes they can decide to bring Partners into that experience and there are times in our life where we can also choose to have that entire experience all in our own systems has she just thought it would be an interesting blog post many years ago girlfriends about understanding that they would instead it was a beautiful beautiful and honoring through there and free of celebrated in community of sister head and from that unlocked a much wider and even more richer program an offering to the world of the Worlds talking about it’s coming up on February 1st 2000 some okay so I’m this is his if it says your your gift to the world it sounds like you were you were on a mission to do the sort of meme me medic Alchemy Alchemy to get a movement in motion and action is so I imagine you’re doing Outreach in I’m just curious what is the what’s the strategy and what is the sort of scope of your of your aspirations for this cuz I believe it it really can and should go far and wide so yeah I’m excited to hear about what’s going on behind the scenes first question and this is the first year where I’ve decided that the pleasure pledge deserves her own space so she’s going on and I realized over years of running both of actually on the pleasure pledge simultaneously that there are definitely overlaps particularly because I am the founder of both and so my stamps for women’s safety of their safety within themselves safety of their sexual experiences and as well as their healing is a thread that has been part of my work for 99 and lifetime I believe and so it feels nice to to give the pleasure patch this new space to thrive and we are inviting more awareness through our conversations like this social media brand Partnerships as well and it’s really my belief that an orgasm orgasm solo sex is something that is a key ingredient to women’s holistic vitality and so I see this as a space that is very much based on sexuality but honoring sexuality is a key component to our house and so I think that there are ways to open up this conversation that really reached my way of like oh yeah but just as you say it like this should be something that like the health department is like no side effects better sleep and wildly wonderful and positive potentials that’s my job that’s so cool yeah you know it reminds me throughout the years of just being a sex geek and whatnot I do recall it might have been a documentary or somewhere where I saw that there are there are countries in the world where literally it is their government agencies and offices that that hand out pamphlets about masturbation and how to do everything you would you would you would hope that our government pay course it’s it’s a it’s not it’s not trashy it’s not really you know over the top as far as being provocative it’s just like like a first aid manual her like acne treatment manual or something exactly awesome so please if you would please tell me more about just your personal how did you come up with this idea what I love the story and I love to hear more about the other your other the sort of the inaugural test study subjects that you worked with in the beginning and get some other stories of how they experienced it but I was curious to go back further in your life history with your what was missing in what was wrong and what didn’t provide you this you know out of the gate so that she had to develop it like what’s your sort of story of heroism around that yeah so I trying to decide how far back to go so I was as a teenager what kind of Fancy Pants all girls private school in Boston and everything for the eight years that we were there was still didn’t us about going to college and getting into the best possible, and yet there was no training or no conversation around what college would be like and I’m dating myself here but it was a late one day decided I’m actually going to go on to it wasn’t Google it was like or something and start searching about what the college experience sexual assault and I was 17 and horrified and terrified and I look back at that seventeen-year-old girl and I’m really impressed that she was able to be as conscientious as because I was two teachers and adults at the time and brought them needs to tistics and was told that I was I shouldn’t worry about it I was there was no conversation actually I have this beautiful experience where an aunt of mine took me out to lunch and the summer before I was to go to college and she’s basically just sat me down and was like kids who are scared to go to college and I told her as well as I was with her guidance that I stepped onto my college campus aware of the groups that were already set up to address issues of sexual violence on campus and raise my hands to participate in them and so pretty quickly I was leading them and growing them and engaged in administrative and policy changes and it really was making identifying key component of my college experience and so as you can imagine it was incredibly powerful in some ways because I was able to effect change fan belt community and be part of community and the other signs it was incredibly taunting and why on Earth was I as a 21 year old given this responsibility with my friends to be riding so that I done went and got my Master’s and gender and social policy in London at the London School of economics and was really against sexual violence in the world I smile not because I think that is a lofty goal is mad because that is so clear to me as like what my mission in the world has always been since I was younger and kind of the foreshadowing I had not process my own sexual trauma yet and so I stepped away from the work for a couple of years and did some other activities and then I in 2012 I want to go back into making the world a better place for women I want to have it’s always going to drive to me to be focused on women sexuality and could I navigate this through a focus of pleasure and that was really the impetus it started oh actually was could we talk about Up Entertainment so we could be released taboo around pleasure as a way of honoring what the world might look like if there wasn’t any more and then I do believe that when we heal ourselves we will have that celebrates and honors women’s bodies in them and sexuality in women’s pleasure and orgasmic potential and I am all for it so that was how I started on February 2019 be the fifth annual public butter fudge does not hundreds of thousands millions of a saying in February that for this 21 days are going to focus on ourselves are flygare healing and growth and expansion in our lives in the world beautiful as so I’m assuming also that that’s correctly that span of time if everyone is basically synchronizing on that pledge then that would be a huge marketing opportunity for companies than brands of products that are already doing Valentine’s Day campaign so if you don’t want to be a douche boyfriend you should buy vibrators so you know that are for pleasure pledge and you should learn how to be an assistant and you should step up in that way and actually I mean I will be beautiful I could just imagine that a pleasure pledge gift kind of Kit grab bag company information face and celebratory products and I love it too because it’s this really special time in a year where January closes and we step into February and I don’t know about you but the release of a January guilty intense that’s amazing well thank you for that actually I thought it would be funny at one point to do like a synchronized masturbation every twice a day depending on if your morning person but at 6:09 a.m. and 6:09 p.m. everyone should be either doing that if they have the luxury or at least pleasuring themselves and in I think we will shift like the axis of the earth a week yeah if I resend some measurable synchronized meditations and prayers and just light up the whole planet as we all know how beautiful it is to collectively meditate our minds at meditation are in such an orgasm as as such as some water and Shirley healing because you’re bringing that high high frequency of pleasure and joy into your whole system very well said yes I totally agree and I like to step back a couple of little bit into where you had been doing the activism around you know I like to call a sexual self defense that kind of covers a lot of a lot of FM Beyond just street fighting and mugging what not there’s there’s a whole Continuum there’s a whole Arc of violence that can be interrupted earlier with different forms and strategy so I’m a b I’m really into that that’s the old as well and in in appreciate that that you have been working on east campus safety in & Beyond and then something that comes to mind something that comes to mind is that a friend of mine also in the field not too long ago was sharing with me that this notion that female orgasm is can be can become so Elusive and so difficult to induce for for this one factor that she mentioned among many factors are one of it was that I guess there’s new Neuroscience coming out that’s pointing to that they’re being a part of the brain that if you don’t feel fully safe and fully relaxed you pretty much can’t you eat you would need to feel physically safe to Stew for the orgasmic energy orgasmic triggering an energy and all of that that whole chemical cocktail and that whole electrical storm to really take place if it’s like an inhibited when there is a sense of of a lack of safety for the most part of course there are people who would they get they get off on on on different fetishes and you know that there’s different different ways to look at that yeah this is so very happy that you brought this up because I just want to clarify to like a couple of things that are happening within that like in general this notion women needing to feel safe in order to receive and enjoy pleasure just and she would have thought of fact I think right and so that is wonderful where that can go a little bit wonky at fast is Ever Getting It confused or taking that pendulum swing a little bit too far if you will so that it implies that victims of violence who did receive bodily pleasure during their assault are somehow not telling the truth about the lack of consent in that hasn’t sat in case any listener is feeling concerned about what surrounding getting any sort of bodily pleasure certainly beautiful provided us with which is that ease of access to orgasm is going to be first created within a container of safety answer that is always what we want to be going for an and committed to and that isn’t a beautiful that orgasm is that much more accessible different statuses fetishes might not have that container of safety they might be perceived but usually fetish groups actually have a much stronger containers then we might and so if you’re saying to somebody I want to experience is going to be tightened through a through the app and your XYZ is something that may or may not be taboo and may or may not be in, but what you’re actually asking for it and therefore you’re presenting yourself in a container safety hope that makes sense. I totally concur with you about the safety of the container around fetish The Fetish community and I was taking on a pretty deep journey within the upper echelons of it at one in one chapter of my life and I mean cuz it’s always been somewhere throughout my life but I got to actually live in SM dumb and got his Temple for about a year and till I was exposed to a lot of things that people have kids but but it was there that I really got to to develop a high respect for containers with in containers in and you can feel safe to be made slightly on safe and that can be how it all works but everybody’s different but I just see appreciate also being able to talk about this stuff and then and open a space up for it so you actually when you say adult entertainment are you you’re talking about about pouring about I was it is nuanced and complex like all of life certainly all sexuality as far as my understanding of it is and so I know actually it’s a highly curated selection and some of the filmmakers don’t use entertainment honor the hall I Hazard a umbrella term and and it can be spokes of erotica or torn or anything else but this guy I am I think you know we have goodness me I am particularly like in this moment today I had some very angry comments friend to see all the pain and hurt as a woman who follows around what it means to step into engagement around pornography and I think for me one of the things we spend most reassuring about this face as that it counter-intuitively has really reminded me of all of our humanity and also how important it is to create dialogue around things that we supposed to be unwilling and a lot of women do to this really new porn video porn wildly accessible very very influential and and so to leave it on its own in the shadows seems so not okay to me and it is it’s over it’s turned into this real conviction of like let’s talk about it and let’s talk about what we think is okay and not okay and is it in planting Aspen what’s the difference between fantasy and our relationship to our practices of solo sax versus our expectations and desires for real world sex and are we navigate to overlap and the distance between those places and how can we start to see differences as well as commonalities and how we use to measure I’m also in that space and so it’s it’s refreshing to hear more purposeful and in passion-driven visioneering in that space for sure in as and I agree it’s also it’s with rapidly shifting a lot of things and it could be it could be for the best or for the worst or or probably a bit of both but I’m yeah something that I’m curious about is how are you integrating are you out how does it integrate with your projects is this something that you have like a cute you were curating content that you suggest to folks to use for their the pleasuring enhancement purposes is there like a sum of a studio or you producing independent content or how does it all work with your pleasure actually right now my insurance is that we have provided a safe and beautiful directory and guy for you to choose what type of that offense of Human Experience you’d like to have in that moment so lately and then you are directed to the makers to we have with folks that I talked with people that we’ve done really promote people’s work who is Open Nest an honest man Honest Tea around sexuality and I actually have also included because I realized in a lot of inner dialogue with myself are some sites that are some types that are good for us to take around other people’s enjoyment and other people’s practice says around their sexuality is a paternalistic and unhelpful and probably found Saul particularly keeping in mind how women your sexuality with so many of the pornographic sites out there are so our goal is to have that introduction feel like more of a dipping the toe in the water than being a shots the I thank you for doing that in a really is it makes me think of what you’re providing is almost like a a condom before your eyes for your soul so going on the mental industry is pretty much driven by ad revenue from free content now so I mean free content being posted on website posted on websites that that are just riddled with potentially malware scripts and the pop ups and in all kinds of manipulative marketing strategies to get you to to to rig your dopamine cycle ratchet up so that you’re you’re being sort of like you said pushed and you know what I’d say push towards more extreme the rapidly extremely hyper rapid acceleration from really mild material that you’re trying to maybe look for something specific but then it it’s they know what you’re doing they have patterns and rhythms in its mass and they’re just driving you pushing you often towards some stuff that’s going to be traumatic ultimately it tends to lead in those directions so if we could be creating a portal or accurate experience where there’s some guard rails and a little bit of at least hopefully some warning signs or something where you know I would be helpful and for not to be predatory as a visit as a marketing experience in general you know for it to be something for her if I want to get aroused I’d like to have liked it you know romantic like candle light dinner Ambiance of an experience of consuming the media and not be in like this thing you know if the lake I just ran over that like a lot from of actually and I just think if we ingest provides that you know a candle or two before you get there because there’s also really awesome really beautiful but I just for me and for a lot of the people that I’ve talked to you it’s a really nice thing to just have a little bit more of a guide in a little bit more of a sense that you are at the Hound yourself to what what material you want to consume rather than feel as you say either pushed or like you are not in control of what is going to be awesome Oso if you were to be let’s see speaking to a an audience of adult content producers what what are you hoping will be some of the new new trends what what can be done to his they’re always innovating and they always want to be on top of the next the next whatever so if you curious like if you if you if you could be a designer producer-director just with your words just imagining that people listen to this might be in the process of wanted to create content that would be acceptable in and embraced on your platform it really again goes back to what is your intent and around joking mean hats and getting people to more and more extreme versions of pornography usually ends in the intent to make money because usually the end goal is that there’s been enough of a her to get somebody into a paid membership site and that taste of torn I believe has a very different CEO and a very different than many of the other works its way out there to celebrate women’s orgasms to create something that is bringing additional levels of beauty to The World’s End so in speaking with sound anchors we have our biggest category on the site is celebrating female cell makers end in talking with them before reaching them on the site I really get a sense of what is their poor intention and the ones that are on Sauron oh actually are folks you have beautifully articulated that to me as really adding value of an expression to erotica wanting to be part of the worlds that erotic humans can be celebrated and a genuine had an inspiring healing way so that he turned up sell you to something else so that we can make it. Is that the court intent of people’s mission in terms of making it so I would also say I guess I wouldn’t let them more of us who are willing to celebrate erotic an x-rated content and engage with it and create it and it might look like to have more women behind a camera more people of color buying puts a smile on my face so I would want everybody to talk to Healing centered person too and by all means that’s also will actually have something that I might submit off to you for two that towards that end yeah and this is certainly the vibe that I’m that I’m on and I’m hoping to I’m hoping to find others already established in the industry and those who are outside of the industry and maybe haven’t considered it as a as a of a vector for for extreme positivity and extreme transformation because so many people are glued to the the the sort of stream of content that one little drop of something hewing in there could have a massive ripple effect in this this pain of human consciousness so I feel like my calls to action is for shamanic pornography to be a thing that that would be very Redemptive for all the witches who were burned because in all of the tantric group sexuality things that were against the irony that that I feel in my heart around the this it’s like okay if I was speaking to the pope right now I would say you and your henchmen have spent hundreds of years demonizing everything having to do with self-pleasure and with lesbianism homosexuality group sexuality and all forms of mysticism witchcraft sexual magical ritual and then all the sudden just basically in the last few decades the the legal landscape has opened up to allow for the some of the most what will you would consider to be sinful content to be produced and now it’s like the the consequences of all those centuries of repression are being expressed in these type super violence super non-consensual addictive or habit forming in there with a woodsy is 4M even Pat Robertson said demonic demons can be can be basically transmitted through washing a video on a screen and the information on a prospective you can understand how that’s possible by changing your vibration and in allowing in things that will give you a spiritual cold and yeah they stop by so it’s I feel like the the wisdom of Elders in which isn’t shamans coming in and saying at 6 will abuse and Trauma can be healed sexual abusers can be healed and Jen and redeemed through this stuff and so why is it that was dominating all of this content is stuff that is like I’m so flippantly I just can’t get over the irony you know so library of shamanic pornography and I really think that this like he’s hit on so many are convincing us that there is some houses and pushing the stuff more and more and more and more into arbitrary regulation and that is not rooted and you know one of my like it’s a little bit snarky of me I will process that but one of my favorites is guess what state in the United States consumes the most pornography the Utah go Enterprise I want a free-form subscription I want the Christian porn Christmas stocking stuffer kit let’s just get some real this year so that we can buy all of ourselves and create spaces for healing and beauty and bring back I love what you’re saying like an honor and of how different versions of sexuality have been and distrusted infested infested and two ways of demonizing things that actually have real potential to bring a really beautiful marriage if so yeah yeah a hold of those are very beautiful words I want to say we got a bit of time left if you feel like you want to just go I say I feel really really satisfied incomplete in what we what we’ve covered in I guess it’d be great to hear from you any any what else whatever else you want it you care to share and then certainly the website URLs and what people can do to connect Waze to find you and and maybe what’s next with what’s on the horizon 2 end to compete for this evening other I just have to say I am so excited to be at your work in the world through actually. Com or and the pleasure patch.com I’m also on all the social media actually or kicked me and group on Facebook for others and so come and find us there right now it is set up to be a Sisterhood of people who identify as being a woman so I know that that is a really beautiful space for women to come together and explore in community what it means to prioritize our orgasmic pleasure and also know that I have always looking for ways to bring men into our community and support them and their healing and their sexuality so there are programs to come for that in the future I just don’t know exactly when and where and why it’s not to be exclusionary it’s just in case and meet they would need 21 days off billion Wicked thoughts which is the Neuroscience behind our internet activity within the space when I was first time in years ago she was like women are needing and looking torso in that since I said go for it as a man I don’t get it Illuminating in our world right now men do not need the level of outer and inner permission for pleasure women are really appreciating the pleasure price as his permission slip that you know first maybe can be written by me or the pleasure patch but then becomes and to Paradise pleasure and it really does make sense to me then experience dependent right on well you don’t makes me think that I’m not for the necessarily the I think you mentioned it earlier kind of depends on what things can pendulum to Square One Direction yes so you know in this context I feel like I’m I’m kind of dismayed at seeing the the counter porn nofap kind of thing about it’s basically like okay you either jerk off to porn or you don’t touch yourself at all but in the in the sweet spot in the middle of it which is what the tantric wisdom in the Dallas wisdom is really all about for men is that you want to have as much physical stimulation as possible and you want to start to taper down the amount of ejaculatory orgasm if you have but still be able to have multiple orgasms and still be able to fuel those heightened levels of pleasure but not always be quote spilling your seed so there’s people who were in my you know me men’s tantric movement and they’re they’re doing these challenges for men is 21 a month or week or just work yourself up to longer periods of time of total not ejaculation in some people are some people go years I don’t I don’t choose that path although it has its merits if you have certain objectives but but I wonder if there will be a parallel movement because the more women pleasure themselves in in the twentieth the 21-day pleasure pledge if men are having solidarity non ejaculatory three weeks if not ejaculation but stimulation and they’re going to view way better effective at giving those orgasms providing the Arkansas to their female lovers there’s a way for you to harness your sexual energy by keeping your ejaculate inside but also elevating your abilities 22 you know what I mean anything there are so many total pieces of information that I gathered over the years around is just what that experience is for releasing energy and the male body and the release of semen vs. the building on connection to Life Force energy in the way in which women orgasm and I’m so I know where we can come together and so it’s interesting cuz in in are the fall and desire for equality I think sometimes that pendulum if you will get ourselves into this send this notion around saying this because when we think about sameness we lose this honor and have differences that is really basting a lot of trees and how we experience sexuality and pleasure an orgasm letting letting me go there for another final and bit of banter but yeah definitely we could go on for days and hopefully we will be in touch soon as this this approach has yeah well I will see what I can do to spread the word and and definitely will be in touch in in wishing you the best so once again thank you for your for your time and I will be in touch soon and have a great night VW. Concho Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving a podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episode if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com

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Here are some of Alexandria’s recommended links:

https://www.justthefacts.co.nz/index.php/do-i-have-stis-sexually-transmitted-infections/sexually-transmitted-infections-sti-myths-and-facts/

https://www.condomdepot.com/sampler-packs/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xJgEetiGh4

 

Sexorcism the Tantric Opera Episode 05 “Sex Magic Goddess Puja”

Oh My Goddess, tonight we will worship each others body temples with total adoration. For this ceremonial love making ritual we invite only benevolent beings, our spirit guides and divine allies. All lower beings with harmful intent be warned, evacuate this space or be incinerated in the fires of divine love. We humbly invoke for divine blessings, in full faith, so be it.

We must first cleanse each other’s bodies and auras in a salt water bath, then we shall begin with a sacred dance

As your Shiva I will be the structural form that supports the fierce and wild expression of your feminine power

As your Shakti I will pulse through your nadis with currents of pure love and light. Together we’ll burn away life times of karmic seeds.

Close your eyes and stand still as I dance in a circle around you, gently sweeping your aura with my with hands

Now you be still as I encircle and sweep you my love

I will now hold you tight from behind, right hand on your heart, left above your yoni, I will lead a swaying of our hips in figure eight and circular motions

May our charkas align, entrain and unite, let us charm the kundalini serpent and ride her into the heights of ecstasy

I will now kneel in front of you, embrace your lower back, pressing my ear to your womb, I humble myself to your power to create life.

Now I slide my hands down your legs and hold your feet, bowing my forehead to the earth between your legs in prostration to your divinity.

Now for an exchange of massage. First I will give and you will receive. Disrobe my beloved and lay upon the bed. From head to toe I apply coconut oil. Fingers, palms, knuckles and elbows dance all over your flesh. I surrender to the flow of divine healing intelligence, I am guided by forces beyond technique.

I will now annoit you with oil and return the full body massage.

We are now fully embodied and free from the chattering mind. We shall feed each other fruit and chocolate and say our prayers to the divine.

I rest my third eye upon your yoni and chant the bija mantra Vam to open your gates to heaven. I pray to receive guidance on my path of healing and self-transcendent purpose. I pray to receive the strength and power needed to heal the earth. I pray to have the grace needed to be a friend to all life.

I bow to and behold your want of light as I chant Vam. I activate the divinity in your lingam and bless it as the most magical and sacred object in the Yoniverse. I pray that it will be strong and brave, and survive in the hot lava of my yoni tonight. As we reunite with source, I will draw down the power to support all earthy women on their paths to total liberation.

Without an orgasmic agenda let us now trade lingam and yoni massages. The intent is only to innocently and playfully explore the pelvic region, applying love and pleasure to all of the erogenous tissues and their surroundings. I will begin. I massage your belly, your hips, and your womb, funneling energy towards your yoni.

I now begin a epic exploration of your vulva, after generously applying coconut oil I gently press, rub, and roll your soft tissues from outer to inner labia. As you become engorged, I place my left palm upon your public mound, pressing down and making slow circles.

May I ask permission to enter your Yoni with my fingers?

Yes my dear, you may enter

I dip my right index and middle finger in coconut oil, and first gently enter with my middle finger, then slowly, carefully follow with my index. As my second knuckes pass through the gates, I curl upwards and find the Goddess spot on the upper wall. I apply gentle pressure and stroke back and forth once per second as my left palm continues to circle the public mound.

Oh My Goddess, you may experience powerful emotional releases, its okay to laugh, cry, scream, yell and growl. I’m holding sacred space for all that has been heaped upon you by others in this life and the many before, to be exorcized. Have no fear, our divine allies have been summoned to keep us safe and help remove all that that does not serve the highest good.

I’m now the giver. To begin I massage energy outward from your lingam and disperse it throughout your body. To ensure you last all night, I must spin open your heart charka in a counter clockwise motion. As I begin to stroke your lignam I will guide the rising energy up to and into the spinning vortex of your heart. It will now become a magnet, pulling your multiple orgasms upward without risk of ejaculation. Now that your heart has been opened, I’ll use both hands to dance upon your wand, your jewels and the surrounding tissues. I encircle your tip with the center of my left palm, while stoking up and down with my right. I then trace the ridge of you head with my finger tips, then shift to upward rolling motions.

As I sense you approaching the point of inevitability, I stop and guide you to take a deep breath and sip the congested energy up and away from the gentials, up the spine and into the heart, then up to the third eye, and back down again. You are now able to circulate your orgasmic energy and focus it anywhere in the body and project it into mine. Rolling waves of orgasmic bliss will continuously flow and you will be capable of making love with me for hours as you repeat this procedure.

Now that you are fully moistened and I am fully erect, I will now ask you to climb upon my lap, wrap your legs and my back, and allow my wand of light to pass through your pearly gates. I will hold it still as you slowly slide in place. Our eyes shall not close or wander from an interconnected gaze, focusing on each others left eye, we project loving energy closing an energetic circuit.

You’ve fully enveloped me, but before we allow our wild passion to be unleashed, we’ll synchronize our breath and continue to hold the gaze.

Now we’ll alternate our in and out breaths, once our rhythm has been established we shall place our right palms upon each other hearts, and place our left palms on top of each others hands.

I can see the green heart charka energy follow the breath moving through our arms and hands into our hearts, then up and out through our mouths.

Before we dissolve into total union with each other and the divine, let us build a magical future vision together, verbally affirm it, then release it into the alchemical caldron of our love making. I invite you to initiate the design of our vision.

Yes dear, in our future I see lush Goddess Temples, nestled within edible and medicinal forest gardens, defended by powerful warriors, hosting earthly and divine goddesses and gods, training priestesses, dakas and dakinis, initiated psychedelic shamans, providing refuge for the victims of patriarchy, and ensuring safety and protection from all threats of sexual violation.

I share your vision my love. Let us now release all techniques, and amplify the volume of our prayers. Our orgasmic roars will be heard by all divinity, and the purity of our intent will be honored with miraculous synchronicities illuminating the path to our designed future of Goddess Temple glory!

Spiritual First Aid for Sexual Assault Survivors with Alexandria Baker TPP177

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In this episode I’m joined again by Alexandria Baker, a southern California sex educator, Hatha yoga instructor, ethical luxurious natural beauty and skin care entrepreneur, model, and performance artist.

In our previous episode she shared all about her personal journey, background:
https://tantrapunk.com/sexy-mindfulness-in-lifestyle-and-livelihood-with-alexandria-baker-tpp149/

I was eager to learn of her recent world traveling adventures and sadly discovered in the course of the podcast that she had experienced sexual assault. She boldly shares about the experience, I do my best to apply comforting and empowering stories from my personal battles with surviving sexual trauma. We compare notes and agree that much more loving, care, safe space is needed culturally to seriously address the the plague of abuse.

Please visit her website and Youtube channel at:

https://www.fromalexandria.com/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcTemJEFn3GVpGuCbJnu6Yg

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 177 I’m being rejoined by Alexandria Baker who is a Southern California sex educator Hatha Yoga instructor ethical luxurious natural beauty and skincare entrepreneur model and performance artists and we didn’t episode called sexy mindfulness in lifestyle and livelihood and that was supposed to number 149 so I encourage you to reference that and go back and check that out to get more of the origin story of Alexandria’s super heroic efforts in the world and we’re about to hear an update from from her recent Journeys have brought into studies and I’ve only been getting beautiful glimpses on Instagram here and there so this is going to be exciting exciting round of updates from who I hope will be a regular correspondent here on the 5 chest it was a pleasure last time and it is a pleasure now and yeah but when was that that was back in April so a lot has happened since then and we ended our last podcast on a bit of a teaser discussing the center for positive sexualities first conference that I was speaking at and that has come and gone and it has created this magical little nest in my heart of and something that I am now starting to really give birth and rice to riches giving more guided meditations and being able to present mindfulness with sexuality and these fears that perhaps might not have been acquainted with it before but what was so nice about that conference was that I was just one of a few people who actually brought up the topic of mindfulness and so it was a crowd that was someone acquainted with being Mindful and present having a sense of spirituality with the sexual and there are some who are very Green Cemetery need to it and others who were like yeah I do this all the time but it was a really Welcome Avenue for this mental and spiritual exploration and so to see people tuned in and then dial into themselves as I was talking about connecting with your sexy self in a spiritual way was just so awesome and beautiful and this is a great time to continue to develop them right to spread the seeds and let this let these eggs hatch into a beautiful birds that I can fly so that was the conference and since then I have been traveling to Europe and West Africa to meditation and yoga and it’s been a beautiful blessing and really really tough challenges well we can get into that yeah please do yeah I’m riveted knowing that you get to travel so much and and I’m all have questions but I love for you to just keep rolling in to give us like the the chronology you know and the itinerary and all that good stuff I was so I left in the middle of the end of July to go to Malta for a month and there it was really about developing my personal practice and it is very focused and driven and really into my body and inhabiting the space and what is a teeny tiny Island that’s below Sicily which is below the boot of Italy and there’s some things going on but at the same time it was also I felt very isolated and so it was a challenge to not have a bunch of friends around that I can just call and hang out if it was a time till I get my books in writing and really work on myself so there were parts of it ever really hard and lonely but also turning Inward and the connecting with the spiritual finding myself my core and from there I moved on to Madrid Spain and I was in the church for a few weeks and I started to do more of my performance training which is primarily with the Leroy which is a suspended suspended ring that was awesome and I have all the little there around southern Spain went back to Madrid from Madrid to Lisbon Portugal I was there for three nights then Portugal fluid to the car Senegal I was there for a few weeks and I went to The Gambia and kind of so this is a country that’s on the western side of Africa and north of that is a little sliver of a country The Gambia I was there for a week return to Senegal back to Lisbon for a little less than a week I was in Spain I want to travel to Barcelona and explore in North Eastern side of spade and go into the south of France and clear out in the mountains and come back down drove down there for a while continue to teach you take classes that was a journey of about four months of teaching and falling in love with myself and other people and practice medicine allowing myself to and it sometimes not allowing myself but just being totally gutted and exposed to the core and having these really intense experiences and I’m not really beautiful and some that were really hard but you’re all that I’m doing my best to slam girl from it took to be able to find gig type work I can sit around the world so I’m curious if you could elaborate on the the planning and forethought and design that went into kind of brought it sound, it sounds almost like you were you booked almost like a chore to do your teachings intimate in to provide your offerings and I’m wondering if that was something you did kind of in advance or if it was just you go to a place and you ask around and you put up with you know a sign and a window or I don’t know I’m so curious how you how you get to be blessed to the level of being able to just take a shower on the road and in not as so they have a booking agent or not yeah I have no idea of the sounds great. Sounds like a great way to have a vacation travel go to business totally that’s absolutely but it was and when it comes to travel I’m a bit of a wild woman I have an idea of the types of things that I would like to do or what I want to experience or maybe these I have a huge list of places that I want to see so I’ll think okay I want to go to this beach so how can I make it happen that’s not what happened for this trip my initial intention for going out to Spain which was Miley main point was to go to school but with the beautiful ways that FAFSA and other the economics of University goes it didn’t work out and instead of just like being super bummed about it or coming home early as I did come home early but I was planning on staying out there for a year I messaged one of my girlfriends who I am connected to through performance and asked her about I I I sent her a message and ask where should I go in Africa I’ve never been I want to experience that I want to explore maybe Morocco Egypt and I’m going to be in Senegal on these dates does this work out and it worked out perfectly and she has an organization the gambian marine and Environmental Conservation and initiative which is dedicated to protecting and preserving The Gambia through immediate action and Community Development that I’m just so behind I love it I love watching her grow and seeing her journey and the things that she’s doing for for her country and I said okay how can I be a part of this what can I do and she’s a dance instructor so she has connections at Studios and with interested people who like to move back active and it was just a beautiful Snowball Effect of I connected with one studio and then I looked an air B&B to stay out for the week and then the hostess happened to go to a studio just their instructors left to go back home the week before so it was like why all of these things are happening in a really beautiful amazing way because I I just allowed things to happen not to say that I was 100% okay with school not working out and it wasn’t a bummer because in many ways it was but I moved past that move through that and thoughts okay what what can I do now what do I want to do I want to teach yoga I want to teach meditation I want surf I want to spend time on the beach I would like to do dance classes and I really really want to be a part of this organization and let every way that I can and we made it happen my friend’s name is yandere and she’s at our house Superwoman so a lot of the connections and West Africa came through her bikini is it there nice to have friends that’s what friends are for booking you on Amazing Adventures in elderly severe so what is that how does from what from what I understand you were on a trajectory of doing but what would you call it a kind of Orthodox medicine degree to be able to use that stuff is that still in the works or how does that affect that that life goal and my ultimate career goal is to be an osteopath so that’s why I would do the same things as a doctor but it’s a few more months of Hands-On training so that I can diagnose and treat with my hands so it’s more holistic and looking at the whole person then me not being in school during that time that I was in Europe in West Africa pushes through States up at least a year at this point because some other plans have changed but what was all so wonderful about that instead of going for credits just to increase like on The Bachelor level now I’m looking at getting my master’s degree in an exercise science so that I can have the prerequisites completed for medical school and now I have an additional degree and I’ll be able to be a way better yoga instructor with more information about how the Body Works in just whole body systems and more and more practice with that that’s what I love and I’m happy that I’ll be able to be at better practitioner and provider yeah I’ve always wish I had more time to well I guess I will say I’m looking forward to when I’m successful enough to wear certain certain responsibilities and precious in my life for our or minimize to where I can actually catch up to a lot of self-study that I wanted to do including anatomy and physiology and all the systems in and I was just fascinated in the the exposure that I had had in standard education I guess and certainly when it applies to healing in all of this super esoteric yoga guy actually have a book called esoteric systems of the body or something and esoteric anatomy of the body and it’s just I’m salivating too real to say two in it goes over all these esoteric traditions and but it has all these maps of the body in maps of different Energy Systems and I just can’t wait to see how they said the size it just so much beautiful scholarship and I would like to yeah I’d like to compare notes cuz you you move in that direction so is that something that you have already begun kind of studying on your own how would you say that like I’m curious if you could talk just about some of the things that excite you about that field some of the things that you’ve already discovered there and absolutely and before we get into that book sounds super yummy and I definitely want to have a good title of it again in the author so that I can get my hands on that and we will certainly pick up rhino but now that I’ve taken you years off of formal education in a university setting I am turning to my notorious and I trainers and teachers and really asking questions about okay when I do when you told me to do this particular movement on the pole where is that coming from to understand that it’s not just my ankle that’s attaching to this large metal rod it’s I’m the movements coming from my head been so when and how to stop move or shift my my abdomen and my shoulders like what positioning do I need to be internally make V to get the quality of the movement’s correct so that I can be safe and also look pretty while I’m doing it so to have a deeper understanding and a physical level is right now the intention that I’m holding when I go into my practice in my training so that I can not only do this well but I’ll be able to teach her that at a certain point unlevel so really leaning into the support that I have been doing as much as I can turn a too much for the others and dial-in on my health practices I I’m trying to consume as much as I can on my own and with the help of me awesome well me and all of the community here at Township on podcasts will be your Study Buddies cuz this is so stiff for everybody wants to up level the stuff and I actually this it makes me think a lot about the difference between more traditional modes of teaching a martial arts and Healing Arts and sexual Arts it’s it’s like they used to be understanding by students that there would be riddles and mysticism and levels of knowledge and you couldn’t just show up to meet up for free or for five bucks and just start picking the brain of the master pack all of their secrets and if they don’t give it to you in a timely manner you’re going to get him a bad Yelp review and so I feel like God now if ever teach anything I have to be armed with so much Western Scientific backup knowledge because people will want to interrogate you and know what if this interests but from a personal level I would say that most of my students have been very very humble and very very they’re interested they want to know where I get my information from for sure I mean some of them do others are just I can help me get into this meditative state so that I can go to sleep that’s all I want but I actually really enjoy the ones who are challenging me and they want more information and they want me to like be on my game and I’m young and there’s only so much knowledge that I contain in this vessel at this point so sometimes it’s the journey where we learn together and all that you know I might not know this now but I’ll look it up and then I’ll send him a message later and we’ll talk about it in the next class and that encourages me to see where my edges are Beyond it and have only had a couple I have had some private students but they were also my friends who were giving me a really more of a hard time about back to the scientific studies that they wanted proof about certain things I couldn’t give a solid example but yeah I’ve had to take deep breaths and okay well this is what I know at this point and we’re going to do this practice together and it’ll be as good as I can be in as good as we can be together and it’ll continue to get better but for now we both need a little bit of patience challenging well I appreciate your approach to that night I can often feel the same the same way that it’s it’s a it’s an artificial I just feel like there’s thanks to you the capitalist system that has broken himself into pieces we don’t have a way of learning we have opportunities to learn this important kind of fun public knowledge a lot of it would have been very public knowledge and a lot of I mean just imagine if everybody if you’ll go was if it was a yoga studio at every playground for recess and that that was part of a routine and so the cultures where meditation and mindfulness and spiritual practices that were I guess you could say more embodied than just sitting still and listening to someone yell at you or something more of those worn by the practices since they’re so lacking people are or seeking it out and discovering it later in life or maybe having only limited access and what not so it makes sense that I mean it gets the tragedy is that you as a as a certified instructor as someone who is basically gone through a sort of whatever however many hours of a crash course or bootcamp to digest the mythologies and the the Arts and Sciences of so many different competing modalities so many different conflicting modalities and to kind of trying to create these these humble and Valiant yet Valiant attempts to tube to package this material and take for us to individually transmitted to other people it’s a lot to ask and in certainly the older you get the more experience and and and I guess in some cases appropriate kind of seniority you would have in a meritocracy of life experience knowledge but but I do I do like your approach to softening that interrogator vibe in that way of saying let’s learn together because really we should have all learn together and a healthy way and and it gives me gives me some hope I’ve been are very interested to see how you been evolving and so yeah some of the things that we had Vibe down before was the sexuality education the sexual health and and wellness and also psychedelics sexual shamanic therapy treatments and all that good stuff but I spent some interesting developments in the end of General feel that I’m just curious where you’re where you’re at with all that stuff because that was something that we rushed upon as well yeah we did we did talk about that when we when we might but as far as recent developments I’ve been knot on top of what has been happening in the Psychedelic science field lately my focus has been in other direction but what’s happened but what can you tell us about that then I can give my opinion so much love and affection for Rick doblin of the multidisciplinary association of psychedelic studies maps the biggest non-profit pharmaceutical drug development company that’s really ever existed in that continues to just blow my mind with their integrity and their their duty of care rather than take an approach wear your pants during the government to release all restrictions on administering these these compounds to the masses however over the counter or through prescription rather than having that that huge liability and risk it it’s that there’s another way to do it which I had not considered in which they are totally dialing in right now and it makes so much sense and what that is is that rather than having an individual who is who who is in need of the therapeutic value of this of these medicines rather than having them take dosages in like a baggie with their little vial of their little canister and take that and then go out into the insanity of chaos of their existing home life and the existing world then that the idea is that the legal space for the for the administering and for the consumption of the medicine is in a is in a therapeutic context in a clinical setting that is conducted by trained facilitators who may or may not have various medical or academic therapeutic sort of state license credentials but who have at least done with maps is created which is their own custom curriculum for providers of various types types of back and then there’s a line out the door for people who want to get training to train who want to be the trainers if they want to train trainers and they want trainers to be able to go out and create clinics all over the place so that when they get the through the final phases of proving that for one MDMA is safe under certain conditions within certain dosage ranges and then say that but it’s not going to just be mass-marketed and cranked out on conveyor belts and that the drug store is going to be to have access to this medicine in a legal manner you will have to have it be it’ll be in a circumstance where your facilitator doctor therapist Shaman excetra invites you to a space where there are certain medical and procedural practices or protocols being observed very very strictly and then you receive the dosage and that’s putting an only in that setting you’re not giving more to take home and follow up and take two and call me in the morning so contain the containing that risk is so profound to me because that is what I believe is the appropriate way a ceremonial weigh-in modern clinical ceremony away if you will they’re doing their best to bring in the ceremonial and ritualistic element is best they can make they don’t have to do this in a hospital they can create their own clinics in that clinic Canby sacred geometry it can be modeled as it competes should have Ford Explorer texting water and see what I see you to bring the Shivering so that I think that kind of expresses my you know where it would I do so much more so many other amazing doors that have open for them and doors that they thought would have been slamming their face Network gently open to their shoes surprised and so I just encourage anybody to follow up listen to the research Rick doblin on psychedelic Salon podcast in and catch up to to his work but I feel like he is the exception of Bilbo Baggins see if it looks like a hobbit I just can’t get over it and he’s made it through all these years and hasn’t been embroiled in Scandal or controversy and you know I’ve I just think he’s a rare a rare as I don’t know him personally but I will say that Tim Might you know he’s going to benefit me and my colleagues and my fellow survivors and so I think that’s just really interesting and something that you’ve you might consider you know looking into at some point how because I guess I should say one more thing is that this training for specifically for my cats are male female double counselor or dynamic of being at NADA guide per se but being a sort of facilitator for for a treatment I study subject or a client as it were to to have a beautiful experience that is balanced by a masculine feminine energies and if those people are are trained in these certain protocols they developed but that once you have that training done then you were then free to riff off and create your own style to verdigre and also it will be very easy to extrapolate to other medicines other compounds and it’s it’s the container that they’re creating so with all I said I love to hear from you how you feel about what I said in and what comes to the to the surface and for you to react to yeah I really look that and Maps the multidisciplinary association for psychedelic studies is so near and dear to my heart. And mrs. Mason person I’ve only been passing but being around him and hearing how he has affected and touched so many lives and every beautiful positive way gives me so much respect for the work that he and his colleagues and everyone that has to do with our organization similar ones gives them so many pops and I really really appreciative for the work that they’re doing because some people have a sense of understanding of what these compounds are capable of as far as the benefit but now that there is not scientific backing of okay he’s this makes you feel better a week down the line because of this mechanism of action that happens within your system in your body that’s amazing that this is now proven like the proof is in the pudding and that pudding is being offered and it really important container and contacts as you were mentioning it really does just take one bad incident one person said I did this awful thing while I was on she said but while I was under the influence of psilocybin for the government to decide okay well now that’s not going on the road to perhaps legalizing it exciting but obviously it’s bad so we’re not going to and the way that Max is doing it and creating these safe spaces in containers and vetting process to make sure that the set and setting are all in line. They have their ducks in a row to then administer and go through the therapeutic process makes it so that we can understand what’s happening on a scientific level and get the benefits on that personal level and the people that their training I I I one day be able to experience this extensive training so that I may also be able to offer myself and not be as helpful as I can be in in this way because not only are they impacting the people that they encounter what’s in these clinical settings but they’re forever positively alternative I I did send a training so that I would be pure support and just be there for someone who is having any sort of difficult psychological and maybe even physical experience and Ice Festival setting but going beyond that I learned to just be there for people when they’re having something that’s challenging and the way that you talk to someone when they’re experiencing something that can be really difficult will make or break the moment and we don’t have to have trips that are just really horrible and bad and make us afraid of it because there’s a way to know strutting around it with that love and support and having an experienced person there to let you guys jerk you’re tripping understand whatever it is that you need to go through Southern even taking that knowledge outside of a psychedelic experience but with loss and with trauma were just having a bad day you don’t need someone to tell you what to do necessarily but just be there and that makes me really big difference so I learned some awesome life skills through an organization. Maps has created and I’ve learned a lot from maps and not to see what amazing things they’re doing is super cool right on so how do you feel evvie great to hear how you feel about where you where you want to what time will somebody said to me once find what breaks your heart the most and that’s your life purpose to devote yourself to be teach it to do to be in service so I’m curious now if you were travels have have fun how they’ve added to revolve your your sense of purpose in your sense of where you want to be what you want to be doing and where and how and why I’m sure you’ve had some it’s about dates to just your your whole meta-narrative whole framework of reality today really embracing the things that have totally gutted me is what I’ve been living through this month I’m going to be absolutely Frank and give a trigger warning because what I’m going to talk about has to do with sexual assault and Trauma but first blanket statement my trip was wonderful and beautiful in many ways and what happened at the end doesn’t detract from anything that was beneficial or amazing and I still continue to travel and do what I did but my second time around in Lisbon I was I entered into an agreement with someone who is a stranger but a friend of someone I trusted a friend of a friend so as we’re talkin meeting for the first time and learn that needs a massage therapist being a yoga instructor and Super Active I’m like all right what you give massage Let’s do an exchange I haven’t had a massage and a very long time I can totally sit so the time comes for his part of the exchange to happen and I’m receiving this massage and just loving the nice touches and I get into a nice meditative a sweetheart just like vibrating state of enjoyment like not even on this plane and what ends up happening is I get sexually assaulted and moving through that and just having my whole world shaking it was like I was a Snowman in this snow globe in all of this all of the snow off the bottom had been settled things were really chill it was fine I felt like I was in a good place and when that happened that Globe was shaken up and after I was assaulted I immediately felt with my throat get sore and like I started getting really bad head congestion and the physical manifestation of what just happened to me on a physical psychological spiritual level was wholly apparent in my mind and my body at without me really being able to saying like this is how I feel right now because of this some of that came up but it was like I was transported back to the processing level that I was at maybe when I was early twenties was a teenager even I was so out of my body and out of my element in a country where I didn’t speak the language and it was super hard that was I was off my I was off-balance felt horrible and I was just I felt like I was doing so much on my own and I didn’t really have anyone to turn to for support and even when I was talking to my mom about it or my family about it or some friends some people were good at just being a bit like sitting there with it and holding space and letting me processor letting me talk about it I needed and not telling you what to do not telling me how I should feel that just letting me move through it and kind of figure out this trip experience on my own but most of the time it was well you shouldn’t have been in the room with a stranger or as soon as this happened you should have done this or I would have done this or now you need to do X Y and Z like that’s it’s coming from a positive Place most of the time but it wasn’t helpful as I continue to feel better from it and have more Lucidity towards what happened in my emotions and my processing and recognizing that it was actually normal for me to have a day where I just wanted to be in bed and like randomly cry and not want to talk to strangers or wear sweaters when it’s hot outside I just don’t want my body exposed that’s a normal response to an abnormal situation and as I’m thinking what what would I have wanted the people around me to do for me what did I need what how how could if I was a friend how would I support her or him then that went through this experience what can I do better and we don’t I I really only know how to be there for someone who’s been assaulted and been through this trauma because I have and really the training that I received from xando the organization that’s where that part of maps to sit with someone and not guy not tell them what to do but just let them process and figure it out in the support of space I like learned that and I had to be taught that in a different kind of contacts to be there for someone who has been assaulted and we need more of this Hunter training that will help us be a better friend better advocated better cursing in relation to anyone who has been through this and cousin when it comes to a medical contacts that guy I am doing my best to be much more sensitive and much more caring so that I can not be an imposing figure out where someone who’s telling someone how they need to handle their life but just we we all have this innate deep wisdom into what we need to move through things and survive sometimes we need someone to say you got it you know what to do I’ll be here for you you’re not going to fall and if you trip I’ll help you get off it’s okay so with that learning in that understanding a bit more of an understanding its myself and what I needed I am there’s there’s something that certainly and development in love or text you create a container or more a different kind of sensitivity training that isn’t just for it professionals and certain contacts but for anyone who wants to be I support not sure what that looks like 100% but something has got to come out of this something good absolutely will one of the most dramatic results that I experienced at a very tender age was luckily I mean I was running screaming crying spitting gagging I’m glad to be alive but totally in shock and and just devastated and I ran for I don’t know a couple of miles it had to be at least two to go to where I thought I would find the one the one member of my street family gutter Punk tribe who is my the want the the the woman who I was so enamored with and who I will do I beg to take my virginity and and she was just my my queen goddess protector very thin how lucky I was that I found her and that she was there and she just let me curl up on her lap and and cry and like everybody else on the street had been through it and people would walk by and just be like oh yeah your cherry pop welcome to the life you know who you are you know and so and I you know I heard it was interesting just looking back at the the response of those of those folks and just kind of having my flashbacks you know a bit here in in and I would say that it was a blessing coz she she was just a spare changing where I thought you would be on the sidewalk and she just went up she just I was there curled up crying and just kind of nestle into her and she continue to we just were there until very late and we’re just doing what we used to doing what you do what you was doing and luckily she had a place that she was staying so she could have bring me there and let me take a shower and have me lay down and and seal from that point from the extreme of being literally having my life threatened and and being assaulted that’s a combination that is is extra debilitating the to go from being totally spleen out like that with the you know sort of near-death sexual assault experience surviving it escaping finding her and then being in her care for at least that night and those critical hours were I don’t know I don’t know if you know like if I would have gone straight into a squad car or something or straighten to email into it or just not had found her if she wasn’t there I would have gone so much further down into I can’t even imagine it from that cuz I was one of the first and most extreme circumstances I don’t know what is right for you and I don’t know what the most healing or best most appropriate thing is he for you now in this moment or you know there’s no judgment or no would have should have could have hindsight 20-20 I can just say what what what I’ve appreciate about what was helpful for me and how lucky I felt knowing that I guess relative to other people or other conditions where you know I would if I had woken up in a hospital and didn’t even barely remember what happened in only bits and pieces came back over time you notice all kinds of different scenario so I just want to I guess in this moment say thank you to the Angelic spirits that created the synchronicity so that my the pendulum from extreme trauma went to a pendulum of Me Bonding and getting closer with somebody who I feel most comfortable with and who I who could make it possible for me to in a way not hate myself forever and just be like yeah you know what there’s no escaping it there’s you or it was bound to happen and you’re lucky to be alive and we’re here for you and now now you’ll just have to be that much more Street Smart yeah I should have known better why didn’t I do this you know and then and then the and I had already been a martial artists and I’d already been in that was the it’s even more devastating when you think you’re a badass and you like yeah I know all my moves everything but then all it takes is someone to just let you be slightly relaxed and be within your your your inner Zone and then if they’re really have like 50 times as much muscular strength as you there’s not much that you can do no matter how much of a ninja you you tried to be and that that’s probably the biggest hardest thing is to like forget for me forgiving myself for being lured into a defenseless State okay well what if I wasn’t here to be a ring fighter a cage fighter I was here to be a sexual shamanic fight and that I had to have that that knock out that technical knockout had to happen for me to to redouble my efforts into know why I’m here what I would have to know their know their weaknesses and their pattern if I’m at war with this greater monsters entity that is the The Intergalactic Spirit of sexual abusers that is all about animated into some multi-headed monster well I’ve got to expect that that it’s going to knock me down a few times before I knock it down and so in that sense if it was the battle but not the war in it and in it and now all of the battles that I lost Stephanie now is that I feel like yeah you were low-level like a larval demonic perpetrators who who who took cheap shots at me when I was barely developed at all like there’s no sport there there’s no dignity for you there now when we go into the bigger Arena the triumphant attitude and vibe that I want to have it puts in a context of like will coup if you were a spider and you and you really got embarrassingly knocked out like in 2 seconds when the first punch in the ring and everyone laughed at you and it was the most shameful and images demoralizing thing you if if you didn’t notice till I get up and fight and win that round but if you quit your career and you walked off and you spent all your you know you if you built up so much of your life to be a career fighter and you just like fold after one loss then that would be the real tragedy but as long as you take that experience and you learn from it and you and you really study the mistakes and you really look at animals saying this to you like I’m not being paternalistic to you but I’m saying like a zit a sexual shamanic spiritual Warrior that’s what I’d the archetype I’m trying to build here let it go let it we let us all have nothing but winning streaks just because I had the shameful embarrassing sexual exploitation kind of Journey with being a warrior that doesn’t mean that I’m it actually is is is life-affirming and invigorating and I believe that we will we will be assembling teams that will make safety and numbers more more of an established more common kind of Paradigm where we just I mean I’ve even joke let’s just what I would love to just walk back to back for the rest of my life with and with other even it’s like two people you could be walking crab legging back-to-back everywhere you go to the SIP to the mall to the store you know to get on the bus to get anywhere just that level of a vigilance will be what my heart craves and then in a group of people you could all be shoulder-to-shoulder and walking in a circle and just linking arms and slowly moving to this treacherous reality and and I would love to have that that level of full-time Vigilant 24-hour rotating watches total perimeter Security on a rape freezone but right now we’re just going to win a world where if you were just in our loan bodysuits and we’re really for its everything is left to chance and Mercy by those who are willing to do to cheat yeah so I don’t know how you feel and there’s no obligation to respond and I just wanted to share with you what what I at this moment would I have what I feel is the most done revitalizing in in NC refund invigorating as this this work on full of so thank you for acknowledging what I had and we’re also sharing your own experience and I hate that that happened to you and that it happens to people and these creditors feel they can get away with certain things and they know that they can because he do live in a society that is permissive to a lot of behaviors and a lot of things are just so underground that I think they like it’s so outside of everything around for many people that they don’t even believe this these types of experiences that we experienced happen or they find a way to to blame the Survivor because that just makes it make more sense to them like I don’t know it couldn’t have been this other person’s fault but it does and I I wish we could all be so hyper-vigilant for each other that this would eradicate all of me demonic slugs how you speak of but what has been super powerful for me healing and tough as well as speaking about it talking about it letting if I’ve taken a few weeks off of my Instagram social media because things have been not very easy another ways my grandmother passed away but I had the next day after it happened happened on October 23rd and so on October 24th I just wrote it all out and I let it be something that I opened the floor to questions into dialogue and it’s so much more powerful for me this time around because I have been able to control the narrative I have been able to control what I’m putting out in the world in this in this way I was violated but now it’s up to me to shift things in a direction where I have some control again because this hardest thing about this assault wasn’t the violating act in and of itself it was feeling so alone like after I kind of I wasn’t I didn’t outright tell my buddy who’s friend had assaulted me like your friend assaulted me but I said yeah he made me really uncomfortable and appropriate your friends and asshole and I’m going to leave for a while so I went and took myself to dinner and I came back to an empty apartment and I didn’t see him until the following evening I’m already in a country where I’m alone and I wasn’t expecting to we’re we’re not romantic with each other at all or just friends but I wasn’t expecting to not have a friend not have anyone there like he doesn’t have any necessary operation to me but it was really hard and I wasn’t until many many many days after the assault happened that I was able to snuggle up to a person I felt comfortable with just being and cry and let myself be sad and but myself start to emotionally process this because after it happened it was just kind of like Warrior mode and okay I let my defenses down I thought I could trust someone out and now I have to just be as hyper Vigilant as I can on my own because I’m on my own for weeks now it’s just up to me and what this brings to mind is I read it fucking High School part of the trilogy by KISS Girl with the Dragon Tattoo Guardian Salter and list of characters such a warrior amazing badass and she takes her revenge in a way that’s also why I finally beautiful brutal and not that that’s what I want to do I wear that’s what I feel I need to feel any sort of Vengeance but it’s me now taking charge of the narrative while letting people know that you can I’ve been an athlete my whole life I’m a strong person pretty emotionally strong I have traveled around the world for the most part really safely and intelligently just doing things on my own but it still happened and you can be really tough and really smart and your defenses go down and words someone abuses whatever crack say find in your armor and it happens it doesn’t it doesn’t say anything about you as a person that doesn’t mean you’re weak doesn’t mean that you’re not good enough it doesn’t mean you’re stupid it just means that this person isn’t a squirrel and they took advantage and they did something that is written wrong and it’s so sad and horrible at this happens it’s something that happened and I think that I didn’t even to talk about it put it out that way and I know because people have have talked to me after I was just really open about it and saying that I don’t feel like I have to beat myself at 4 having that last drink with someone that I felt that was my friend and then getting assaulted by them it wasn’t my fault this person did this to me it wasn’t my fault that I was in this area with I’m protected in some way it’s a set of circumstances that led to this horrible event but this. Other person the person who acted on me made the decision not me the victims not to blame and that’s something that I’m really just trying to emphasize with people who were like I certainly had mostly mostly men say you should have fought him off you should have screamed you shouldn’t have been there in the first place and it’s just repetitive if you can’t equate what happened to me because it was a situation where maybe you would have felt sexually charged being in a room by yourself with a woman you can’t make someone compared me to or compare the situation truck by like if I leave my bike on a busy Corner unlocked and someone takes it like that’s my fault so you being in a room with someone where you’re getting a massage and he’s a man or a woman you sent it is you putting on steak out on the table for a hungry dog like of course this happens like no you when you’re a professional you don’t go into this profession to assault people hopefully you going through it to heal people and if you’re claiming that you’re a Healer and doing something that’s the office that you’re a bad person and it’s not your clients fault that you’re a Apple I think that out of that and hoping to shine a different kind of night on this thing that happened to me I hope has been helpful in some way to other people because at least been helpful for me I’m glad you have a positive attitude and everything you say I’m totally aligned with in some days are easier than others today is a good day yeah I guess I would ask if you comfortable sharing since the the the date of the incident how would you describe the just the like as if you were mine you know I guess what I’m going to I’m wondering is the emotive expressive did you feel like you wanted to do something cathartic in a form of art or expression or did you if you felt like a total void in your creativity or how has how has the more subconscious send more energetic flow and effects been just cuz I feel like that’s doesn’t everybody wants to fix the problem specially man you know they want to get it over with or did you go to treatment are you in therapy now you know who are you dating again whatever and it’s like that’s on the surface of what you think about this order from the cerebral like I want to feel more expensive what coping strategies that you have developed on an energetic level or just you know how your dreams how are your how do you how are you sleeping to the colors of like seem to ebenflow from grayscale you know there’s just the more you poetry of surviving an experience to those are the things those are the guess the neglected aspects of the Arc of violence is like the those unknown language bull currents that that are flowing deeply so I don’t know if you can put words to that or maybe you will put song to that or dancer expressive movement or something to spend the most healing for me has been r y favorite mode is with the written language I write a lot I create a tree and I have investigated my mind and my heart and my spirit and my soul and my past present and future with word reading it for myself I had a cleansing ritual this past weekend where I wrote all nine different pieces of paper something that was holding me past that I wanted to let go of and from letting go what what I want to welcome in something in the present that was not serving that I wanted to release and welcomed something in its place and something that an image of the future that was pervasive in my mind that I wanted to release and replace with something different and it was a day where it was raining gray I had been feeling really bad that we can do is just a depressed not feeling productive for positive about the Future III all type of week now and I wrote These nine different things from three different time Ingles and I have a metal offend I put frankincense and copal resin and I let each paper away fire from The Stick of Palo Santo after I read it out loud and I dropped it in and I did that nine times until I was through with my stack of paper when I let it burn and I stood in this amazingly scented smoke and just let it swirl around me until it wasn’t that it was a smoking so much anymore and I put it out to Washed by the rain and I just stood there I felt like I was letting go of some of the things that we’re really holding me back and I as much meditation as I can do it as much time as I can spend on my yoga mat I was still getting these Cyclospora palliative thoughts of things that were harmful and things that would come up in dreams that were scary and I had the chance to face it speak out loud say it is no longer welcome here not replacing it the things that are positive and from that point forward I have felt a burden lifted and a light in my life shining that has been missing since this happened and also feeling like it sucks to not have someone who I can really turn to on a on a person-to-person level III not to say that I haven’t had friends who are being fully supportive because I have butt not someone that I feel really gets it and it was something we’re finally felt okay I didn’t feel like I was broken or damaged for not having that and I could be a support to Myself lyrics and I could State myself and enjoying my body for the sake of bringing about pleasure and I could and and I hadn’t danced in a while I think yeah I’ve been pretty sporadic that I had really been embodied in movement and all this week has been back in the studio feeling like I can’t get in my body again in a way that’s awesome Tech and not shaking from something scary that happened but just like okay I’m coming back so I have been welcoming myself back with movement and I released everything with word and I’m looking forward to seeing what else I can create what else will come from this what else someone might be inspired to bring forth through this all right I love collaborations and experiments and just exploring these beautiful artistic Realms with others and I’m sure that I will love what comes from this wise words so often you hear the trait kind of Silver Lining glass half-full kiss kind of from nuages and Isabel positive thinking and informations and appreciate the sincerity in in the way that you feel the way that you have it’s it’s it’s a very deep and Redemptive where do you express this in I want to applaud you for having this I hope you can applied yourself for having been that it’s it’s basic knowledge that what your what your your level of clarity and level of purposefulness and and healthy response I is it’s weird because the temptation to cool and sink deep into an abyss that’s that’s really how they beat us you know that’s really what they want and if we stand up to the after effects and we don’t fold in and I keep telling myself on my dude don’t let this triggering moment crush you like a tin can and and if you just don’t let anything crush you like a tin can you you help other people there’s so many canned responses to on all sides of these events in whether they are often ways to just hide from deeper truths or to avoid through formalities just avoid a deeper responsibility of care and I would say that what I pray for for all of us and all the survivors in the past and future survivors that will be is that the culture that will the human culture gets to a point where we we have Survivor leave from work from school from all of their duties that we have do we have families and parents have budget set aside for if these things happen so that a buffer can be created from any financial responsibility for any any give me the time that it takes I I just all I care about for myself as like I would consider a high level of success and wealth just to just to be able to press a button hypothetical button or a magical imaginary button when I need it’s like okay no one needs to know exactly what I’m going through in this moment but it could take a few days or a few weeks or a few months I don’t know but I want to always be able to put everybody and everything on on a on an elegant pause An Elegant hold and don’t worry about me I’m not going to kill myself I just want to go on to cannabis, and meta bait alone somewhere and in the worst thing is is it to me the worst thing is that Guillotine always coming down on my head of when the bills are due how much money is available to me and so is his chronic that hamster wheel ism is it safe to have sex with your sexual abuse trauma Survivor is like you’re on a hamster wheel of razor blades you know it’s it’s not pleasant and it’s not easy to go through the motions of traffic and stress and workload it’s all mostly bulshit anyway you know what I mean even if it’s for a good cause it’s still so wrapped up in 8 hour work days and deadlines and being on your you know responding to emails in like no one wants to get an auto reply that says PTSD meltdown see you whenever by and I certainly haven’t been able to only a few cases only a few chapters in my life have I been blessed to be able to actually sink into the Stillness to actually retrieve the Stihl Parts cuz they’re just right there you know but you’ll never will never be able to slow down enough I mean I don’t want to say the never hear it the way that they’ve rigged this whole reality is it like oh you got you were bolitas and you were bullied and on the playground or well you’ll never have time to actually deeply consider how that affects you because she hears the next thing to do on your to-do list on your pile of things to do at your desk with her to school or work or whatever or you or or becoming a parent and just seeing that I know parents who were trying to recover from all kinds of abuse and Trauma and and it’s beautiful that they have this vicarious Joy A New Hope full refreshing view of a potential for a more safe and Morris Saints I’d life for people care in her present but even that is still takes they still need a vacation to be able to really sink in and it just has hamster wheel Rat Race even if you’re not aspiring to be the most richest most famous most Fast Company fast money entrepreneur and you just are going kind of with the flow that flow is not designed to give us any real deep space time abundance to two kind of connect a bunch of dots and rinses reflects so I just been praying that what if we don’t single-handedly wipe out all demonic parasitic sex demons on Earth in our lifetime that it very least we change the Paradigm of people knowing that okay this this this disgusting disease perversion of mostly male Egos and male sexual sexuality is is not going to go away maybe not go away really anytime soon but our cultural adaptive strategies to it existing can be a lot more intelligent and they can be a lot more and it can be precluded to mean the way that we the way that we can quarantine Ebola we can quarantine this as a culture but it takes it takes a way more in enlightened approach to what we’re going to need to do to to not only prevent possible circumstances and I even would say that something that this is not a game this is about by no means to to for either of us as survivors or to anyone else who are survivors if it’s not too along that line of thinking of of like you’re saying about well that the cliche is asking for it by whatever means that by whatever measure but what I would say is that I would say we are all asking for it when we do not create social sexual containers were there are there are referees for overseeing all every single sexual act that happens between two people because this Cult of private and idea that who’s in order to enter if I want to have sex with this woman I can’t let her know that and some appropriate sort of dance of a way I have to intoxicate her kind of push her into the night late at night so I know when the buses stop running I know when she’s going to have to rely on me for a ride wherever I’m going and it’s like that is the whole modus operandi is that people are not comfortable being sexual in groups therefore they lose the buddy system when when they get aroused and it’s like no you need the buddy system more in bed than you do crossing the fucking Street everybody that we need to be able to say oh yeah naked stuff sure butts grabbed 10 people to hang out and enjoy it with us and then you will be 10 million times less inclined to see what you can get away with because no one can hear the screams or no wonder we’re too far away from you know the light or whatever those those files circumstances are that these that these mostly men are there rape artists and II when I first heard that term I was shocked and mortified and Intrigue they don’t know what they don’t know about how sweeter and better and more gratifying it is to actually earn the affection that you still desire and earn the the the touch that you would like to have or that you would like to share with someone else so it’s going to be a long road ahead for sure and and I’ve got your back and I’m glad that others do and I will say that those are the best and kindest words and most invigorating words that I can come up with an LSA that at this point in our conversation I want to give it back to you to share all of the thoughts and feelings that you feel called too and to also please do if you’d like to share some just words directed at our listeners who will be looking to engage with your work and connect with you online and enough so hopefully offer support and various ways to your ongoing projects and interview going through these These Times of healing and yeah oh you it is it is all you know where some share and hearing I’ve got your back is powerful and invigorating an absolutely kind listening really hot outside what you have gained from this as positive I know it was it was probably pretty tough to hear some of it for many of you and thank you for I can threaten listening I I can turn out no matter what it is your experience think you’re not alone if you want to reach out to me at any time I am accessible yet my social channels on Instagram I’ve got an email on my website and and if you want to throw this up somewhere where your listeners can take away those magical channels please that would be great I am performing around Los Angeles for the next few months until I complete my next. So that I can come back and teach people to teach other people continue to spread this wonderful yummy yogurt business and I’ll be hosting several workshops in the coming months so throw that up on Instagram when dates are finalized but I’m super excited about it and I hope that you are too because it high going to be as authentic as I can make it and really becoming more fully embodied with whatever it is we’re experiencing and yeah I’m I’m here for you I need some of you see this I look forward to it be awesome shoot me a line and I thank you again for having me back thank you yes always welcome anytime and wishing you absolutely the best for you homecoming adventures and now I hope our iPads cross and lsbn touch the name of the book that I mentioned earlier esoteric anatomy of the body is consciousness by Bruce Berger so now more than ever I feel compelled to redouble my studies and my understanding of how to how to move blockages and move yeah move move foreign objects that get lodged in our energy field through these whether they were I’m just getting a visual right now that I guess I want to I want to throw in at the very end of here I’m seeing now like a medical kind of schematic drawing that shows how when it could even be just sexual harassment verbally it’s just like when when an attack or assault happens to to a person’s energy field it’s it’s like there is a a wound surface abrasion it can be just like you know affecting the astral body in a similar way is that they have you no First Responders would know okay is it a burn is an abrasion is it a contusion is it a puncture is it an impalement and these are all terms you know you learn what tools to apply in a first aid situation and to identify them and in all cases if there is a breaching of the outer barrier of the skin the protective layer that key sir organs in our blood and all of our precious vulnerable cellular material however the breach occurs whatever the nature of the breach is it becomes a moment of opportunity for opportunistic organisms to infect that that area and so when I think about the emotional body that he has to about the delicate sexual body the these levels of our being set when when when we get wounded in these ways it’s an opportunity a tragic opportunity for dormant dormant material dormant pathogenic material in other parts of our astral body to sniff that out and to go and try to reactivate themselves it’s an opportunity for just whatever was in the room at the time to jump in I’m bored and to be a stowaway on your ship of your being and there is the introduction of exactly what was a particulate matter of the perpetrator themselves and that can be transmitted to sound waves from their words the creepiness the there’s multiple different categories of infectious material that opportunistically takes advantage of these the weakening of that of of the immune system of our of our total of all these levels are being so I feel like the the duty that we have talking about healing talking about psychedelics talking about orgasm talking about touch and movement as it’s it’s what we’re constantly doing is fighting off these infections and some of them are deeply lives with us and get get stirred up by new trama and some of them are just all around us all the time circling all of us on the subway and on the dance floor and it’s at the bar and say the the Heart and souls of the work that were talking about it were hoping to exude I believe is that were going to just create more and more robust and resilient systems that can be ever purified and will purify the culture and purify ourselves and you know will come back and be reincarnated and do this again and again and again and and just create those light tendrils and let them be less hindered and let the harmonies of our yeah what the harmonies really be sweet and and and beautiful and let this this really vile ugliness kind of get more quarantined in eventually composted yeah absolutely alright then where you have a wonderful night and then just want to put it out there feel free to Lean on Me call text last Christ high fives you’ll be hearing from me all right you have a wonderful deep restful nursing sleep then is going to be late so have a good night thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Tantra Punk. 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Tantra Massage for Healing from Sexual Abuse Trauma with Tiffany Tanner TPP158

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In this episode I have the blessing of speaking with Tiffany Tanner, a certified therapist and tantra massage teacher. I found her powerful article on  Mind Body Green about how tantra massage helped her heal from sexual trauma.

She bravely shares her story of healing from trauma that provides a very compelling and inspiring case study in transmuting a tragedy into a gift that serves the greater good and shifts disempowering victim role into a victor role.

We discuss how tantra massage techniques can effectively move trapped and negative energies from the past into the surface of the mind, body, and present moment. We also talk about how much care before and after is required to better ensure a positive outcomes.

About Tiffany:

Tiffany’s personal healing journey propelled her to become a certified therapist and teacher of Tantra Massage through her beloved school, Somananda Tantra School. She finds great joy in sharing and spreading these spiritually based, life-changing teachings in a pure and authentic way in group retreats and private courses for couples around the world. To learn more about Tiffany, Tantra Massage offerings and upcoming events, visit www.energyalchemy.me.
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast I’m joined by Tiffany Tanner today a certified yoga teacher certified tantra massage teacher and certified meditation teacher and I came across her work through one of my Tantra Google Alerts we’re pretty much scouring the web every week for anything new and interesting about the whole Global Tantra movement and that’s how we discovered a lot of great people doing a lot of great work and this really resonates with me the article that I found on mindbodygreen which all linked to in the show notes and it’s about how tantra massage Hercule from sexual trauma and the story that that she shares in that article is really nice really moving so I was I reached out to see if she’ll be want to talk about her journey and what she offers and definitely give us some good contacts for people who are interested in what is tantra massage and how can it be use to heal trauma and so with that said Tiffany would you like to tell us about your background give us kind of the more detailed story about how you overcame that trauma and if so become a service provider in all these beautiful areas when we were talking strictly about sort of the the the trauma itself at happens when I was quite young actually I was 7 or 8 years old it was by a dear friend of mine her father who was obviously a trusted fatherly figure for me I spent a lot of time with her she was my best friend so we were inseparable at that age and yeah it was you know just kind of one of those random days I was over there playing with her and she happened to to go inside for something and I was on the on their property that has like a swing set or playground and I was there just kind of playing and yeah he had invited me into the his Workshop area and of course I didn’t think anything of it he was going to show me something I don’t know what that was now but at the time it sounded very interesting and intriguing so as a child of course joint him that’s how what happened next was obviously very traumatic at that age he did sexually abused me and rape me and yeah and I walked away from that experience clearly confused and I didn’t really tell anybody it was it was very I just remember being very Dazed and Confused after the experience not quite sure what to make of it’s not sure if it was right or wrong because it was my friend’s father you know so you kind of question whether it’s okay or not okay when it’s someone that you trust but yeah I didn’t go through a whole lot of processing I didn’t tell anyone about it I was very worried about my friend getting in trouble and I didn’t want to rock any boats so to speak so that the next memory I had after the the incident was actually I was at my own home and my mom had said that it was seeing we had a scheduled play date with my girlfriend and I just literally went into chaos I I was very uncomfortable I was crying and I said no you have to cancel I locked myself in the bathroom that was a very very clear memory of mine that I locked myself in my bathroom and of course my mom was very confused you know this is my best friend and someone that I was always loving to spend time with so she wasn’t quite sure what had happened she of course questioned me as to whether or not that was you know if anything has happened that she should know about and by that time it was kind of I had suppressed the memory almost rather quickly I I consider it a great blessing and probably a protection mechanism of my Maya I don’t know my my mind my my body and my spirit who’s to say where the protection mechanism comes from but nevertheless I didn’t have a clear recollection as to why don’t want to go play I just knew that there was danger and I needed to stay away no matter what so that was kind of what was at the Forefront of my mind so yeah so I kind of cruise to realize of course it was a bit turbulent for many years but again being so young and didn’t really understand why it was so turbulent I struggled with many things emotionally as a child you know I got into my teenage years and and was less troubled at that time but I also fully engrossed myself in school and boys and work and school work and you know the things that you kind of focus on when you’re a teenager so it’s not really start flooding back to me memories until I was in my 20s I would say and mid-twenties and I just started having memories and feelings and Recollections and I couldn’t really make sense of them obvious they recognized my friend I recognized the father in these memories and these dreams but the idea that something like that could have happened and I wouldn’t have remembered was beyond me I didn’t know that the subconscious mind could do such a thing I thought for sure I would remember it if it really happened so when I started having these dreams these memories these Recollections I kind of dismissed them and thought they were rather ridiculous cuz what girl could possibly forget such a thing and then they it started to become more forthright it started to become more frequent and it came to a point where I was my boyfriend at the time when we were making love the he became the perpetrator he became the father that had raped me and I decided at that point Out Of Reach critical mass that this was definitely something that I needed to explore and look more deeply into so I thought help and that kind of propelled me and began my healing journey and an exploration Journey as well call thank you for sharing that and it’s so I have I can I can commiserate with a lot of that as a Survivor myself and I know it’s a it’s like a very that processive of Discovery is really difficult to reconcile and so I appreciate you just surviving as we always will have to do in and so if you don’t mind could you zoom in a little bit to what the experience was of your partner becoming the perpetrator would that mean that he was exhibiting kind of like hostel or predatory kind of Tendencies or was it just that your mind was kind of swapping the files for the experience that you you couldn’t differentiate or you were kind of having like a flashbacks they were kind of like blurring between the past and the present or how would you describe that so maybe people can start two people maybe who haven’t questioned what some similar experiences might have been and they may be in the same state of kind of denial you can say spray tan because by the way that I said it could leave so it’s good so good to clarify it it more became like a blurry line as to whether I was making love with my boyfriend who was a very sweet heart and soul so there is you know no perpetrator Tendencies on his part and there was nothing difference in our lovemaking or our relationship we have been together for I think three or four years at the time so it’s just the act of love making some sort of stimulated the memories of being raped as a child and so my lover became sort of it there was like this blurry line we’re at moments he looks like my friend’s father and so and obviously why when you see such a thing it definitely throws you off to say the least and and and it was quite shocking at the time, to think what I was thinking of have you ever seen that film Bliss it came out I think in the late nineties and it was like a Hollywood production with some pretty well-known actors and actresses in it pretty much details the whole Arc of recovery from sexual abuse with tantric healing cinematographers it has a very Cinema graphic way of showing in describing exactly what you’re talking about where it’s at one point you not to be not to give the spoiler alert but it’s a married couple and she’s struggling with a lot of internal issues in their kind of in therapy together and she’s inorgasmic and they’re just trying to work through it and then they kind of threw sacred spot massage State end up rupturing this sort of suppressed energy of all of his memories of, and then it just she just becomes flooded by if she has to she has to basically temporary set separate with a partner so she can go into some more Focus human work so how did you were you able to transcend that August now we get into how you were able to to move beyond that into did you regret your relationship survive also that that chapter chapter on my partner at the time was very supportive but the relationship kind of expired not long after that, it was just more of a amicable parting of ways and kind of growing in different directions so I wouldn’t say that it didn’t survive because of the incident because he was very supportive and actually very instrumental in the process and the healing but yeah you know we all grow and evolve in the sometimes that means party way so that we can continue on with life in different directions I’m glad to hear that the that he was supportive when it mattered the most I’m just do you have any tips or from that recollection of time specially for people who were who were supporters of survivors in these these relationship Dynamics any sort of good feedback you could share about what was working for him playing a role in just being present and supportive than studying and learning with you about the whole issue yeah for sure you know when partners are sort of on the the other ends of the spectrum and trying to support other partners that have gone through such experiences men or women I I think number one is to not take anything personally he was very good about that we had a very close to motional energetic and psychic Connection in some ways where he could really see that if there were issues that were stemming or popping up in our relationship that often times they were because of the healing process and the recollection process that I was having to go through so he was really patience and very sweet in that sense and that he could really step back or to take himself out of it not take it personally and realize that there was something much more Global going on and what was happening perhaps between him and I if there is a challenge or a disagreement of some sort that a lot of it was as a result of me having to go through the psychological psychotherapeutic process so I would say number ones not take it personally which is obviously easier easier said than done number 2 is supposed kind of holding the space which I hesitate to use a little bit cuz it’s kind of this new age term that doesn’t have a whole lot of substance unless you really Define what that means but as much as possible just kind of allowing the person to go through the process because there are so many different levels and stages of the healing process from anger to paint to outrage to sadness to having to relive it was awful moment that you just want to forget forget about to forgiveness to love to so many different levels and stages so it’s it’s quite an ask for a partner to support Survivor as you had mentioned or called it before so if you can just hold the space and allow those emotions to come out allow those stages in those levels to evolve in progress there is certainly a light at the end of the tunnel tunnel and there is sort of this shining ending most of the time to the story so I think that’s probably where the two most fundamental and memorable actions or inactions in some cases that my partner took that really supported my healing Journey that is so grateful to hear that and I’ll just add by saying that the statistics of reported sexual abuse cases of boys and girls men and women it’s so high it’s so off-the-charts and that’s under estimating you know not factoring all the people who don’t actually come out and in either respond to a survey or file a police report or no however those studies measure this so I think it’s important that we all kind of probably expect that we’re going to at some point be in a position where if we’re not survivors ourselves we’re going to be carrying closely for someone intimately who has had some level of trauma so yeah it’s going to be making more critical that the work that you’re doing and they were all doing to raise awareness is going to have her clay through through the culture until we get this problem solved so do you want to talk now about how where you started to discover Tantra and kind of what what the steps forward you took to to kind of grow and get into those more the stages you word your mentioning we are getting you know kind of just not not getting over it not not putting it behind you but integrating that the bigger picture and just becoming degree like realizing you become a wounded healer so when I initially started to explore the memories are flooding back and sit to heal this suppressed memory I started with conventional means you know this is the only thing that I really knew about so I started with a psychology and Psychotherapy and I went to life coaching I did a number of different modalities to try to cuz I there’s a part of me somehow even though I don’t know what I know now there is a part of me that subconsciously knew that this was more than just something psychological this is more than just something you know at the Forefront of my subconscious mind this is something that had somehow embedded deeply into my life on many different levels spiritually emotionally mentally sexually physically so there’s a part of me that knew I needed to do more than just talk about it on a couch so to speak I knew that I needed much more than just hypnotherapy for example to really confirm whether the memories I was seeing where real and true and really happens I knew that there was an energetic healing that needed to take place in emotional healing that needed to take place a mental a spiritual a sexual so many different different thing I really over the course of the the healing process and that over many years I did many different Therapies and I have to pay for me personally sure that there were there were certainly times that it was it was hard to handle it was hard to see the truth it was hard to swallow what was coming through but I have to say I’m so grateful and thankful that that memory was depressed for 20-something years because when it’s so fresh and when you’re a child and you don’t have the coping mechanisms for the understanding to get through such an ordeal then you can really carry a much bigger load of baggage for your life then what I probably did so it was a really a God sent that I had suppressed memories for 20 years by the time you’re in your twenties you’re obviously much more mentally aware and emotionally aware and you have a lot more control over what comes through cheer being an end so I the healing process was was quite therapeutic it was quite harmonious I can’t say that there was really a time where I felt overwhelmed by the healing process or felt like I couldn’t do it or it was too much it was step-by-step it was it was a unique experience in something I would never sort of take away from myself because I really feel like it attributed to who I am today and the path that I’m on today so that I find some gratitude and I find an immense amount of forgiveness as well but yeah I began with these conventional means and by the end of the the process which is probably over the course of eight or ten years I really felt like I was in a good place I really felt like I could easily talked about this experience I wasn’t cheering up I didn’t feel like this emotional hang of hurt or pain inside of my being I I was rather relaxed about the topic about the memory about having discussions openly with people so in my mind I had healed it in my mind it was a done deal and I had Unearthed everything that could possibly be on earth and then of course fast forward gosh I don’t know exactly how I found myself in kind of this a relatively good place in my life I have owned I was only my own business I was very successful at what I was doing I was passionate about what I was doing I was loving what I was doing but I always felt like there was something more that I was missing something in the end that there was a purpose that I was really craving and I found myself in a bit of a a spiritual crisis I would call it kind of that who am I and why am I here question it became it kind of consumes me it was it became something that I can no longer just miss or speed I suppose are quiet down with just simple things are with material things or with them you know a bit of yoga this or bit of meditation that or hanging out with friends it be a really deep calling and I found myself at the place where this was non-negotiable now and I had to do something about it and but it didn’t know where to turn I didn’t know what was next and I found myself praying for the first time down on my knees praying and asking something a higher power or God or something for guidance on what was next how to move forward how do I discover the answers to these very broad big life changing questions and I prayed for about 2 weeks and then I found myself on my computer looking on something on YouTube so you know random unrelated YouTube search and on YouTube if you were call there’s like a side panel that gives you suggested videos the subjects suggested videos are in relation to what you’re searching for but in this case it was completely unrelated and I saw this video that was called tantra massage energetic orgasm using tantra massage techniques and it just for some reason really stood out and in again intrigues me and peaked my curiosity and I decided to click on it and yeah that that led me to someone on the Tantra School that’s who this video I checked out his website and I just said you know what I don’t know why but I really need to explore this more I’d never heard of Tantra really I’d never been involved with you and so for me this was it didn’t really make a whole lot of sense but for some reason it felt like it was the answer to my prayers so I did check out his website and there was a course that was coming up in 5 days and Argentina and put attending such a course would be at the time with seemingly impossible I had booked at like a complete my schedule at work was completely booked out for 2 weeks ahead I had eight hours a day clients booked in so the idea of being able to drop all those clients cancel them book a ticket to Argentina take the 10-day course was a bit hard to Fathom at the time but that’s a little voice inside my head said that I must go and I did actually key to that calling I did listen to that voice my ended up there and that’s where I started I took the 10-day tantra massage therapist course so what I experienced there was completely unexpected because again in my mind I had completely healed the sexual Trauma from the past and there was nothing left to discover there is nothing left but as I was going through the tantra massage and working with many different partners and for so many days we were doing you no 3 for massages a day by day6 I had an amazing release an amazing unexpected a healing I guess took place and it was and I knew exactly where it had come from he knew exactly what it had stemmed from I knew that it was related to the sexual trauma and what surprises me is that it was so harmonious it was so peaceful it was as though you kind of said something earlier you said it really beautifully he had like pop to this bubble and it had somehow you’ve been released do you remember what you said done earlier rupturing a sort of feel like there’s so many I have to hold back on how graphic I’ve seen it from my I guess for like a third eye perspective if you would if you think of it from my biomedical perspective you really you really extracting something that is almost like a sister almost like I’m just at the unnatural or invasive growth that is really consuming resources and taking up space and you know stealing energy really so yeah that that care that’s needed to actually explore and find the location of these energetic not sis is another way but it’s not a metaphors but I think the reality is just that it said it’s very Surgical and away is very energetic surgical operation that says that’s nice way of putting it was it was like this you know this growth that had an energetic it wasn’t me August anything physical or tangible by any means but it was embedded deep in the tissues and in the aura and yeah so it it was an energetic manifestation and therefore had to be released energetically and the Tantrum massage course that I was taking was a highly focused and rooted in the principles the original principles the authentic principles of Tantra which is energy so for me that’s all that it took it took just an intense amount of energy work and eventually the same was dislodged but I truly believe I know you’ve probably seen such manifestations be released in a more violent and dramatic way and I have seen that as well but the the school that I studied under was very specific about the the healing and the releases needed to be in a harmonious and peaceful way a lot of dislodging which I know we can’t always control but a lot of these sort of erratic or violence dislodging of these energetic man manifestations can actually in bed the memory Keeper in the tissues in the aura and so it doesn’t fully leave the body in fact it kind of multiplies that right because now you got this traumatic experience from years ago that is coupled by this very violent reaction in the two almost couple with each other and create a new memory alright it’s a very sticky process and certainly I mean there’s there’s times when I feel like it’s ill-advised to for some people you need to have the financial and social support system setup to be able to take time out of your life to process more and more memories start to come up and like you said linger cuz they’re not going to hit it it creates a whole new Trainwreck energetic wiring and a high blood people who are who are doing the work to to create the Sacred Space in containers for that to be actually a beautiful a very beautiful viewing experience is the pike the positive beautiful transformative regenerative trentino transformative experience is actually so beautiful that that it’s easier to let everything just sort of go away in a lot of people that would maybe just do really limited kind of clinical session work with this kind of stuff and then just leave people to their own devices walking back onto the Subway or back to the cubicle and it just isn’t it isn’t advisable so appreciate what you’re saying about that approach that approach in that style honoring that needs help thank you so much for that I’ve seen it to your rights like people that go in and for single sessions and went on and get on the subway it’s quite something and and there’s also you know courses are a tantra massage teachers that teach that actually encourage this like outbursts this screaming in this you know Barry outwardly release of certain memories are traumas and well I see I see the reason like the reasoning behind it I understand the logic behind it but I also don’t think that people really understand as you said this energetic networking that takes place that you know by by doing such acts such hourly ask such kind of violent acts that sits like I said you are coupling a traumatic experience with another traumatic experience kind of a thing and so it kind of a the more Whimsical and then you got to have a head I’ve had to learn to have some humor about this stuff from a greater sort of I guess like I asked for the ecology is is is when it’s kind of a a nerdy term that I like to use but to kind of make bring a little more lightness to it I actually just a thought about it a lot of people who are suffering and I certainly have been suffering for many years of just feeling very alone and you know what I did know about what happened to me which is only kind of scratching the surface was was so grotesque that I didn’t want to even talk about it cuz I feared alienation and you know being vs. Whole shame that that comes from being a Survivor and wanting to you know concealed the truth from yourself and others and even you know Psalm Isadora bless her heart do you know she is alleged to have taken her own life and she was one of the shining stars of the the Neo Tantra Sexual Healing movement and you know I read test Counts from her saying that she was afraid to open up about her history of abuse because who would love me you know and that curse is so profound him to feel like you have to be silent about it cuz you don’t you know if you would even be loved if people would be repulsed by that truth and just with that line of thinking no to wrap up this this and that I have is just that I think it’s a simple connect energetic economic question of if you want to use the word demons which is kind of mythological archetypal thing but but if you we all kind of have some reference point for that but I kind of feel like if it if these are so-called energetic parasites are demons and they’re just they’re feasting on you and a very depleted state where you don’t have the ability to you know to fight them off or release them or move them out of your field then it’s I could see them thinking from their perspective while it’s like there’s no competition here no one’s coming into love you more than we would just like to devour you so you know what you going to do about it and they’re just they’re doing their thing or that this is happening but when you bring in enough I like Amor a counterbalance their act pretty inside of your field with other human beings with the sort of angelic loving energy than their displaced by that love vibration and then the healing experience doesn’t have to be a deeper trauma but it requires like a higher amount and frequency of the love vibration so if that if I can you know the some guiding a guiding Point that’s that’s kind of my one of my conclusions about this and what you’re saying I’m glad that you know you brought that up because it’s such a it’s such a delicate thing not to make it worse than it already is cuz maybe it maybe you’re just let me know so I know there’s people out there who just could not they would probably melt down and probably become almost catatonic or maybe even just they would lose it and and they would have less of a grip on reality and on their you know just trudging through life trying to make it make a living and get by so hard work you know when you have someone guiding you through the process that says really skilled in such a thing then it can be a beautiful experience you know and a very lethargic experienced and almost Blissful and many ways to be able to transform something and transcend something that is you know horrible in the eyes of most and even in our eyes and to make it to come to a point where you could appreciate the experience understand the implications where it comes from why and how it propelled you forward in life and you know where it can lead you I feel is there’s nothing greater than and that it’s truly a gift at least it was for me about just even later instances in life of let’s save the very typical sort of Campus sexual assault and rape and all of it all of the different sexual assault perpetration Zone that Spectrum Austin if it leads someone into their power to become a crisis counselor or a self-defense instructor then it’s a new kind of well if I think it forces people psychologically to to make lemonade out of lemons you know and it fits it it’s certainly I mean I would there were other things I would rather be doing with my life and focusing you know 100% on this on this dimension of healing and and and helping people but we need more Sofia the First Responders to this issue so you know yeah it’s if I see what you’re saying about the just getting you into purpose and you know it’s it’s a scary thought but some people who were who were kind of in that I guess you like you’re saying about holding space being a little bit kind new age and kind of lacking definition it’s a lot of people will say Isabel will you chose to enter this family structure and you chose well in advance you know while you were in spirit form to come into this life and have these experiences so that you could be catalyzed share your gift we should be to kill people and I think there’s got to be some some truth to that that some of us if we can survive it and you know build the strength to become teachers and healers ourselves then we can really fight back in it in a healthy way so do you want to talk about more specifically what you were training entail building what you’re doing now and just how the sort of more than the mechanics of the procedures that you’ve been trained to do and that you’ve experienced then what people can understand about how tantra massage differs from other modalities of healing Bodywork as I mentioned that the very first course I took was this tantra massage therapist coursed through someone on to Tantra school so that really serves two purposes I actually didn’t go because I wanted to become a tantra massage therapist but it was the soonest course I could take and it was regarding tantra massage so for me I went and joined and I’m so glad I did so first and foremost it helps me to heal the last shred of what existed from my sexual trauma my previous sexual trauma which is amazing and of course it created a lot of clarity and realizations as well but secondly I walked away with a tantra massage therapist certificate as well and though I had not intended to really use it or offer it because it’s not something that is widely accepted or even legal in the United States unfortunately I did after sometime after the course I decided that this was something that I wanted to offer to others as well in addition to sports just changed my whole life changed everything changed everything I knew I knew to be true it changed everything I believed it’s opened my eyes to a whole new universe really and so for that reason and because in my mind it was an answer to a prayer I really felt that I needed to stay the course and stick stick on this path that I really needed to dive into these teachings and and continue with the learning so after this tension massage therapist course I actually came back and I closed my business which was quite a dramatic action on my part really really yeah you do. It was not an easy decision of course I I I did actually trying to sell it because it was a thriving business it was very busy and it offered a unique service it was actually in the in the realm of Rehabilitation and healing chronic pain naturally so that is my original backgrounds of speak so it there was a high need for it you know and I I was initially thought you know I’ll just put it up for sale but these things don’t happen so quickly there’s quite a process that you have to go through and you know the longer I held out for the perfect fire so long I was prolonging my my path the next out the Future these teachings and these things that I wanted to learn more and more about so for me after a couple of months of trying to sell it I just said you know it’s not going to be fun it’s not going to be pleasant it’s scary as heck but I’m just going to close it oh I liquidated everything closed it and ever since then I have been taking course after course after course and really focusing on my spiritual life and my spiritual practice after the therapist course after closing my business and tying up all the Loose Ends I then went on to to become a yoga teacher certified yoga teacher a certified tantra massage teacher because I wanted to offer Retreat two people to couple two singles similar to The Retreat that I had experienced I’m and I also became a meditation teacher as well so that’s been my last few years well that’s amazing yeah that’s these are the kind of success stories that really do a lot to ask but she you know sometimes country gets a weird smell media kind of thumb presentation and they’re certainly if there’s actually a lot of surprised that people might be surprised but in in India there’s a lot of extreme legislation even against what’s become a prolific so it is no pattern of of what we what we would call Black Magic and you know the more sort of evil quote spectrum of of from which doctors and just you know really actually anti-black magic supplies that criminalized Tantra in a very real way and I think it’s sad because it’s been both in the West End in the East the the patriarchal forces have driven the goddess worship aspect and they only worship aspect very underground and very you know out of accessibility and so the more patriarchal and more serious just people using the mantras for Trident love spells and even political candidates getting busted for Consulting with these quote God men the word using Tantra Mantra to get them elected into you know shamanic Lee poison their other competitors and stuff so the more we have these really beautiful Redemptive stories of people like you actually having massive profound transformation and bringing back the glory of of a more. You know you could say goddess sent to your door Shakti centered approach to this that that the global PR campaigns it really is you know at least I know before I jumped into this course of my initial course I thought about it like everybody thinks about it you know it’s cuddle parties it’s sexual it’s all about sex it’s it’s similar to Kama Sutra you know it’s unfortunately gotten away from its original authentic spiritual roots and been modernized and adopted so much today and then even gone in the direction of black magic you know it’s it’s just it’s so distorted and too many people don’t realize it initially Tantra was you know this whole and complete comprehensive spiritual system that touched on many things so it touched on astronomy and astrology and energy and Universal forces and purification and living a clean and healthy and Pure Life and meditation and yoga and relationships tantric relationships and what that meant marriage Life Death first pregnancy and complete system where there are authentic and original text that reference all of these things that make up our universe with explicit and expressive teachings on how to manage your life in a spiritual way and unfortunately I don’t know how but over the years over the centuries it’s got introduced to being something sexual so I think it’s important to note that Contra is so much more it’s a system of evolution it can literally take a person from A to Z regardless of what a looks like for you whether you’re you know like me and you who are trying to heal who are survivors of sexual trauma or traumatic experience generally or someone who know just looking for something more in Life or someone who’s looking to have a better relationship or marriage like it could literally just take you from A to Z regardless of where the starting wages yeah you doing it and then I think the the way that that we can have our cake and eat it too as far as the the sexuality piece which I like someone said this to me once you know it’s a kind of absurd that over representation of a sexuality part in the west you know I says westerners have encountered eastern time show where sexuality was more integrated into a whole system like you said a more holistic macro perspective and micro perspective on just a fractal energetic nature of the universe and life and creative forces and just balancing masculine and feminine energy that sexuality is not excluded it’s not over in the size and it’s sort of just imbalance with everything so there wouldn’t be distorted and sort of bloated in a in a healthy kosher but in a culture like we know that the dominant Western Paradigm of sex negativity in the sort of post Victorian repressive even puritanical attitude of sex phobia negativity then it’s the first the second chakra of the West is the one that’s most how to balance the most wounded so that’s kind of where the vacuum brushes to the energy of country Russia’s there and that can be a good thing or bad thing but but the simplest way is good to me was just said hey you know the second the sex chakra is one slice 1/7 of the of the pie of the chakra system so you can’t you have to treat every chakra in the country system of learning about our energetic Anatomy that you have to give equal attention and purification and activation to all of those parts and then you will find that the lower chakras really energized the higher chakras in the higher chakras really inform the activities that you know that we’re driven to do so it’s a it’s a good it’s a tune-up you know it’s a good tune-up when you get it off blowing right it is so true so true cool this is something that I don’t I don’t see being addressed as often as I like and I would just love to get your thoughts on this what I feel is going to be the future of once once we get enough of our survivor you know Ken more up and running with this material and more you know I’m powered then eventually I can kind of see that we’re going to be called to apply these modalities in various ways to address the problem in in prevention and treatment of the actual perpetrators in that could I could see that involving you know people that go in and do prison chaplain work and bring yogurt you know into psychiatric prisons and juvenile sexual perpetrator programs in there you know so many places where there are social workers in criminal justice officials and you know think tanks and ngos and operating all over the world special in places where there’s war-torn extreme violation happening of you know it’s just there’s so many places where if there were a ton of bricks or a task force that we would be deployed to actually on both sides he will the survivors in keep survivors to heal each other and then get the perpetrators working on clearing them each other out and and everybody can then we can weak as a species we can move Beyond this sort of infection of the soul in I’m just going to throw to find people who who have a forward-thinking attitude about this and I’m curious if you’ve given much thought to that sort of dimension of you know this the applications for treatment and prevention of perpetrators and we can just demonize them forever and just pretend they don’t exist and put them in the shadows cuz that just makes it worse right perpetrators by demonizing them you know so there’s certainly a healing that needs to take place and I think that we need to have a bigger broader perspective about our soul contracts in our soul purposes you know is you mentioned earlier that we all whether you believe in reincarnation or not we all come to this particular human life in this particular human body with karmic baggage you know we all come here to live out our previous or current Karma so it’s it’s much bigger than just you know this human being is a bad human being and therefore he’s done something bad or she’s done something bad and you know they need to be demonized and punished it’s it if we could sort of educate Humanity on the principles of Tantra which is energy which is karma which is you know Universal forces which is reincarnation imagine what a different world it would be we would have an entirely different understanding as to why things happen and how people become who they become or why they’ve taken certain actions so in terms of healing perpetrators or offering a long-term solution to rectify this ongoing and kind of issue that keeps it seems to be getting worse more than it seems to be getting better I think for one we need to start from the ground up we need to start with children need to start with our young are use my my teacher is coming on. He has actually a vlog on his YouTube channel and he talks about you know should we bring Tantra into schools when you tell that to the most the the common the modern person they’re going to say absolutely not where I’m going to teach our children about sex but if we can come to a different realization that understanding about what answer truly is an absolutely imagine as a child understanding such things and and also having tools to manage our human existence are human life tools to manage our chakras tools to manage our emotions tool to imagine her to manager and control are mine and that’s really what Tantra can bring so for me it’s it’s let’s start their number one and number two to heal or to hell perpetrators or you know the the mentally ill I don’t you know it’s hard to say where the issue stems from butt certainly you could bring Tantra modalities such as yoga or meditation to the prison system or to the psychological realm or the mental treatments definitely it could help for sure nobody has to be doomed whether you’re a Survivor or perpetrator there’s always time and tools to change so as a Survivor you feel like who’s going to love me and it’s a perpetrator you’re feeling who’s going to love me I’ve done terrific thing right who’s going to love me and so the idea of being able to transform yourself and become a good PR person is almost Beyond your realm and as a Survivor it’s like who’s going to love me this has happened to me you know I’m kind of going into a little bit of this wounded sort of mentality we’ve we’ve got kind of a similar issue but at two ends of the spectrum exactly exactly and then who wins at the end of the day it is like the word I mean some people don’t like the word demons and I had to you know I love her and she was like can we just call him scomi’s or something less aggressive grotesque and yummy I think Gremlins are at 1 am? A tantric Ayahuasca Shaman friend of mine would he would just like to call Don V call somebody on Friendly’s so we’re not loving ourselves not loving each other not figuring out how to bring love to where it’s needed most to the you know that the deepest wounds then then there’s no competition and you know really we have no we almost have no right to lament this crisis if we’re not willing to step up and bring the sun where you know literally where it does the light where the sun don’t shine is what it usually comes down to an important call to action for people who are her doing this work I’ve met you on social worker two are integrating this and then you know what you’re saying about the child development and the schooling at I know Laurie handlers is one of my heroes in his face and she comes from a she’s got a podcast and use one of the most prominent features I believe in that the modern movement and she had to interview with her a while back and cheese it has a background with like really high-level business organization doing the working at one really high level of public policy projects and corporate kind of don’t you call it just management Administration and management of social organization and so she when we were talking it was very no-brainer to her about how you could roll this stuff out where you know the sexuality education doesn’t have to start with the sexual anatomy and the reproductive organs in the act of sex it really when she’s she’s had guest on talking about Teen Tantra in school workshops and people who do like a preschool level approach which is just all about sensation and energetics and consent and sharing in becoming a real master of your emotional landscape in your body and that’s really the prerequisites to be a conscious caring compassionate sensitive a human being that win at the appropriate time of sexual development later in life you’ve actually laid that Foundation to be very conscious and aware of yourself and then you won’t rely on alcohol with say to a to have to be inebriated to open up sexually and that’s you know the cause of so much abuse and Trauma so I think that any of this this the people who are are going to step up and in an adapt used to be called 264 of love where you would as a man or a woman to be really considered you know socially Adept you would be learning to do flower arrangement and working with you know archery and Metallurgy and poetry and so many different balancing of masculine and feminine energy so that by the time you actually we’re getting aroused and turned on and wanted to get it on you would be such a beautiful multi-talented just Renaissance person not so yeah that’s amazing kit will I’m so glad that they were able to cover a lot of the stuff and just extend the conversation and you know we’re about an hour or so if you want it feel free to share any extra thoughts and words of wisdom and then certainly all of the ways that people can be in touch with you and and connect with you so I guess I’d like to maybe just briefly describe tantra massage cuz again it’s one of those things that’s sort of lot of misconceptions regarding tantra massage again it kind of goes more towards the erotic sexual sensual side of things and went and her massages is done properly and with full integration of energy meaning is an energetically based massage then that it’s you’ll soon discover it’s actually not a sexually based or erratically based massage it’s actually built and renowned to provide deep intrinsic healing healing at the energetic level healing at an unprecedented level healing those embryos or the seeds does energetic seeds that have been implanted in our Aura from a lifetime of experiences and situations so it’s really quite a powerful form of Bodywork and healing should be at the Forefront of the the goal I guess I think it’s important to just kind of describes that’s that the purpose tantra massage should be rooted in the foundations and the fundamental components of Tantra which is energy-based and it it needs to abide by certain laws of Tantra so energetic laws for sure but continents right so sexual continents are preserving the Sexual Energy should be at the Forefront of a authentic tantra massage and yeah it’s so for people that are perhaps listening to this podcast in and may be seeking out tantra massage as a healing modality for themselves just some things to keep in mind when you’re searching for a practitioner or therapist to assist you along your healing Journey you want to make sure all they say that the person is skilled and well-trained and that they’re incorporating fundamental principles of Tantra into the tantra massage session so I think that’s as far as how to maybe touch bases with me if it’s something you have questions you’re interested more in learning about tantra massage and what it can bring to you or if it’s the modality that is right for you then I can be reached at energy Alchemy. Me so energy energy Alchemy Alchemy. Me is my website and you can read some description is an articles and whatnot about what exactly is tantra massage and how I personally conducted course that can vary from practitioner to practitioner and I guess last words really bad would just be that there’s there’s always light there’s always a way there’s always something on the other end where you are there you know no clothes Road no one is doomed whether you’re a victim a Survivor a wounded warrior whether you’re a predator or someone who has perhaps puts a person in a situation where sexual abuse was taking place if it doesn’t matter like you there are solutions and there are ways to transform your life and to move forward and a productively healthy successful spiritual loving way so in my mind it’s some no one’s doomed there’s always a way and you just have to be willing to take those next steps there is obviously you do need to be diligent you do need to be dedicated you need to understand it’s going to be challenging it’s not just you know this lovely seamless no way past but I can stay from personal experience and maybe you can to that it’s well worth it what’s on the other side is beyond anything we can buy them and truly amazing truly blissful absolutely yes will beautifully said in great words of wisdom and dime I’m super motivated to coming to this world again unrecognizable as it to it’s enough for my former life I still I believe that anyone is listening to this who is a Survivor even if you know there’s a sort of paradox which is that you know I realized it’s many years ago and it still be kind of my my final response to no to this to wrap this up as yesterday at one point I realized it was really disheartening I realize you don’t even if I could heal and from the trauma and overcome this and and not have it bother me so much or feel like such a dream I was I would still probably never forget it like you can’t put press a button that deletes these files from memory forever you’re going to always have to be shaped by the memory of it but that the more you eat the more of this work that you do tantra massage is it just a great way of looking at it mean if you are doing giving those and receiving those that you know as many days and hours of the week as you can then there is so much light at the end of that tunnel tunnel it’s ongoing Discovery more and more like but you will never actually forget that any of the stuff ever happened you just have a different way of engaging with the energetically and it won’t feel like this black hole every time you have to get sucked into it a trigger of the trauma and put the flip Beauty the thing that motivates me you know I’m beyond that seems like I can never really Escape it escape the knowledge of it but you can’t have the hope and I believe that if we really correct this and we really feel this on it on a world a global level in a general you know with it within the next few hopefully Generations then we will come back if we choose to and reincarnate and then we’ll get a fresh start and we will I think it’s so important to do this work now so that we can be more statistically assured that when we come back into another womb it will be through a nun raped and unmolested body and it when we will be born and live lives there free from that fear and that that trauma so let’s do it no better reason to stay happy and healthy as long as we can to do this work and and be given I don’t know I don’t know what’s in the afterlife but I know that if we come back to earth we can directly affect how the net out our next life actually hands out if we do this karmic clearing work now so yeah that’s that’s the spiritual call to action and thank you so much Tiffany has been great chatting with you and I wish you all the best with all your endeavors and hopefully you know anyting that you have to inform myself in the future please let me know I’ll be happy to have you back to share any new offerings or if you have any creative works that you want to promote then fell means love to hear about it so yeah have a wonderful wonderful rest of your Sunday and will hopefully be in touch again soon thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been a tantra Punk. 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Queer Poly Group Eco Sex Magic Ritual Design with Reverend Teri Ciacchi MSW TPP150

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In this episode I’m blessed to be joined by Revered Teri Ciacchi MSW a leader in the eco-sexuality and sacred sexual healing movements. Teri takes us on an adventure through a colorful playful personal narrative that weaves together a beautiful tapestry of initiations and revelations. Teri’s deep, rich, and diverse array of offerings are a great pleasure to explore and I have to say that Teri’s work in the area of facilitating safer/sacred group sexual healing ritual with best practices in mind is the most comprehensive and thorough I’ve yet discovered, I salute and bow down to Teri’s great works. To learn more about the Aphrodite Temple, please listen to this extremely empowering and invigorating podcast:

http://sextalkradionetwork.com/2013/10/16/living-love-revolution-aphrodite-temple/

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Reverend Teri D. Ciacchi, MSW  Ecosex Celebrating Lover Earth, an event being held on Orcas Island Summer Solstice 2018 is taking up most of the Reverend’s time right now. Being Teri includes being the relational matrix of the Living Love Revolution, being a holistic sex educator, a Priestess of Aphrodite, a leader of the EcoSexuality movement, and an EcoMagicks practitioner. We have been generating CascadiaHolistic Peer Counseling system since 1997, holding Aphrodite Temples since 2000 and co-created Surrender:The EcoSex Convergence from 2013-2017. In July 2017 she started Interdependence and Autonomy LLC, a for profit business that builds consent culture by healing conflict through education and legal advocacy, creating consent-centric events. Reverend Ciacchi looks to Nature for guidance and wisdom. She translates the teachings she receives from mycelium (mushrooms), bees and stardust into useable social skills for human beings. They lead collaborative workshops and events that honor the innate connections between humans and the Living Earth. Recent publications include essays in the books: Ecosexuality: When Nature Inspires the Arts of Love  and Queer Magic. You can find her works at the following websites:www.LivingLoveRevolution.org www.ianda.space   www.AphroditeTemple.com  and  www.ecosexorcasisland.org.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 150 I am being joined by Reverend Terry Diane we is a matrix of the living Love Revolution and the Eco 6 movement in Cascadia also the hierophant of the Aphrodite Temple and we will be unpacking all of those lovely titles momentarily I just want to give a personal introduction I got to meet Terry several years ago at a lovely kind of green tantric Magic Ritual where we made these blessed seed balls and really mixing the spirit and the technology of permaculture with the spirit technology of timeshare which is what this show is absolutely all about so obviously I was thrilled to meet back then and then over since I move back to LA that was in Portland I have been prompted by one of my dear friends to reconnect and invite Terry to be on the show and in that process I discovered what I think is one of the most important and vital fundamental groundwork laying interviews to talking about the perils and the promise and the the glory and the the horse really if I’m trying to organize successful well vetted Sexual Healing rituals that are I say very well curate did not overly hierarchical or cultish you know Sex Magic healing ritual groups and just the Practical nuts and bolts if you’ve ever wanted to understand you know best practices for that kind of stuff which is you know what I am really guided to to assemble this like best practices medically spiritually sexually politically all of these economically all these factors come into play so someone is really got a lot of experience with that and we’ll get into that later is Terry so I’m so thrilled to just be able to In This Moment I’ve really been praying for this for for quite a while so I’m really thrilled and with all those things said Terry please share with us your personal background your story will also get into the Eco sex movement and the and the the other good stuff first of all let me just start by saying that it’s an honor to be interviewed and to speak to someone who clearly understands the breadth of what I’m doing and I was really moved by your sharing your personal history of recovering from your childhood most of us don’t most of us do not have a chance to actually fully heal or I mean most people in what I call the feeling we were cultural deconstruct at the minute we never get to fully self we don’t I have a whole theory about sexual self development you know people talk a lot about psychological development but because our culture is so fearful and so specifically body phobic sex phobic we don’t really have very much opportunity to unwind the deeply traumatised the sexual initiation experiences most of its have had and you know we know just some statistics in social work and psychology that the majority of adults have deep unhealed traumas around sexuality but for me myself knowing that both that sex is a sacred thing and that that it is opportunity there are not many many many opportunities to explore Bliss and ecstasy in these physical bodies and I think that we have an obligation just because we’re born and we have these bodies to come to a place and create social experiences where that Bliss and see can unravel its potential and fully bloom in our lives and so I I feel personally charged by the goddess Aphrodite and by Guy other and the beauty of the Planet of the natural world to insist that I create spaces and places and opportunities for people to actually have sexual sovereignty and actually enjoy their bodies as fully as they can during the span of this short mortal coil you know so it’s wonderful to be able to speak to somebody that I believe has a capacity to understand what it is that I’m doing our culture is so I should say our country but were born into is so toxic that it’s a miracle that any of us ever find each other or have the opportunity to be in a loving kind peaceful consent Pacific space together and so that’s all just to say again that I’m honored to have stopped to speak to you and to speak to your community so thank you very welcome thank you so I’m going to be just the first two paragraphs from my essay golden waves and Priestess bodies establishing a queer Centric poly normative Aphrodite cultist in Cascadia and a lot of the language and addresses in here I’ve had to invent a lot of language I mean why do I say queer Center in poly normative because there aren’t words that I could just say one word and you would get what that means right away right it’s only because we’re living in a really impressive culture that we have to invent new words for our experiences because our experiences are outside the cultural norm so very important acts of magic that I learned from reading books by Bell hook Bell hooks is to from margin to Center and specifically records in her book from margin to Center is to put our own experiences in the center of our worlds and to speak from that Center as if it’s totally fine for clear poly animist witchy people to exist and to be generating their own culture you understand yes so the culture we were born into and grew up with in USA neoliberal capitalist racist sexist hegemonic oligarchic culture can be referred to as be fading Uber culture this feeding agriculture is not for me and resisting The Fading agriculture is exhausting and does not provide enough pleasure as pleasure activists we want to focus on creating more of what we desire which is an intimate community of gender varied friends and lovers who are magical practitioners focused on creating new ways of being loving humans insect we find ourselves at war or odds with the culture we were born into because that culture does not have a place for us over culture does not even have words that we would choose to describe or accurately convey our own internal experiences of divinity love and sex and so we must invent new words we must use different pronouns in search of ourselves and our culture we have gone through a series of the comings and ongoing unfolding of self that have inspired us to invent and send her our own understandings language and definitions of what the central mysteries of divinity love and sex are and can be the use of the pronoun we throughout this essay in my speaking is an intentional and admittedly unique usage the intention is to express my internal experience of being a collective of beings a Multiverse of personas an individual embedded in an ecologically web of relatedness it is impossible for me to separate myself and that’s in quotes from a complex interweaving and histories of one the sex positive and queer ancestors of choice to biological blood ancestors of DNA Family Heritage three the internal environment of my body that include biotta neural networks and assimilation of animals and plants is food for the fluidity of ideas conversation and activities shared within and between the many people in my community S5 the fluids and bodies I exchanged when being sexual with others and six the lived environment of my physical existence taken in by my body sensory precepts it is also incredibly important for me as an ecosexual animist to approach the non-human persons around me as an integral part of myself so while the use of the pronoun we for self-reference is Clumsy it is also for me the most truthful and authentic so that’s just kind of an introduction of why would use we which is plural as a pronoun and this essay which I’m not good anymore of for you is from a book called queer magic power beyond boundaries it was edited by Lee Harrington anti Phoenix police tend to amazing powerful gender Blended beings who I admire very much and I’m grateful to know and be close to we get another I have so much privilege and Grace in my life that all of these amazing magical beings are connected to me and my silly don’t matter what I call the mycelium at the rise Ematic polycule set we all send our lives around tie is a person what is a personal assistant genius incredible human being who knows a lot about alchemy and who went through my Aphrodite Temple Priestess system and evolved in Hyde off and got a new shade in and became hierophant and they do something called T which is a temple of erotic Alchemy and it’s such a thrill to be able to Mentor people into their own power and then get to stand next to that I work with them hopefully for the rest of my life there are amazing and I just wanted to not do that do you not think it is awesome please continue another person that I work closely with is Christian Thomas and her website I think it’s called the rewilding still but she’s about to debut an amazing project called the one woman podcast where she has put together a series of wonderful intimate Dynamic powerful stories and what she did was use the quote from Muriel rukeyser from a poem that was in part of second-wave feminism in the early 80s where they quote what would happen if what if one woman spoke the truth about her life the world would split open and then she interviewed me and a lot of other women and said what would you if you could make one sentence out of the truth of your life what would it be and I said my trees right now is that we are the midwives of the new aeon and this time of transformation it is our time and so she put that sentence as the opening background music for the opening of her podcast and that’s coming out on Mother’s day which is wonderful also look for that because I think it’s not only just inspiring the same power a lot of people I’m saying all that because I believe it is true that I’m a midwife or the new am I think that were in a spectacular time in which for me the word apocalypse means the removing of the veil I think that the current presidency is a very clear example of a an increasingly Stark division between classes and increasingly star division between people who want to drag us back words to try to preserve their culture which is dying which is again I call the fatty liver culture and those of us who have been intent our entire lives on creating new worlds focused on love consent in peace an S at you know we’re here in this beautiful setting on Orcas Island were at the place where we’re going to be having an event called ecosex celebrating leather Earth which is June 20th through 24th and part of the way that I worked is at wherever the new venue for my work is which I arrived at through magical practice and meditation and speaking with my gods and ancestors whatever that place is that I get the calling to go I go into velop a relationship with the land and with the venue house and with the land comes information about beings that died there with the land comes connections from my own ancestry here on Orcas Island there obviously were Native indigenous peoples the Lummi people specifically lived here for a long time and we’re driven out in the 1890s pushed to Lummi Island they were before that in their own small Tribal wars with the macaw who live in the North and then there was a whole huge Colonial division between the French and the British and the American as they continue to colonize this place there was a lime mine here that was used to build bricks and he thinks and they cut down the forests in 1896 so I’m on this piece of land that has amazing immense trees that have been growing here since they clear-cut it in 1896 there are several cedar trees that must be older than that because they’re towering but they have snagged three of them have snags at the top and that’s why they’re still here and one of them has a 13-foot black cleft down the middle of the trunk and so we’ve decided that’s the lowest I will bring the Altar and one of those wonderful features of my event which prior to this year was called surrender the ecosex convergence and which I held an intentional Community with Lindsay Hageman when she live there she stopped living there and we have to find a new venue but in those times so from 2013 until last year 2017 we have a part of the venue space marked off and we call it lillis Forest and we call it that because what we’re doing is creating a temporary autonomous Zone and we’re making a Sacred Space for people to have consensual sex Magik experiences in the woods they can be auto-erotic self-pleasuring or they can be negotiated consensually created co-created group or dyadic experiences whatever people want and in order to make it safe to do that we talk about consent all the time are very specific definition of consent is on the website when you register you have to read it and say that you’ve read it we have a 90-minute embodied consent training as part of it that’s mandatory everyone has to attended they get a wristband and I ended up learning how to create an entire culture where people could be strangers when they arrive at the festival but by Thursday night the festival goes from Wednesday to Sunday to buy Thursday night everyone is resonant with the definition of consent and how to embody it I did all of this because as a deeply Pagan person I decided I was from a point point of rebellion at the age of 18 never going to worship a male God because of the oppression that I experienced as a young female child and the early date rape experience and things like that I didn’t trust male body people enough to want to worship them as or defy them at all so from a point of rebellion I went to a private women’s school called Stephens College in Columbia Missouri and they had a library in one of the first things I did when I got there was go to the union section and found this book about inanna The Descent you’re not a way of initiation for women by Sylvia prior Brenton and I read that book and realize that it was possible that there were female deities position of rebellion at first I was like what I’m going to worship goddesses then it was a conceptual thing for me in the beginning and then I went through a thing where Alders archetypes this is a psychological thing and then As I Grew in 9:55 I’ll be 56 is here somewhere between 18 and 30 I had enough actual experiences with ritual and invoking deities and you know I met somebody in 1980 Melanie Henry who told me I’m a witch and gave me the copy of star hot to spiral dance with every year at that point and we started doing rituals together and getting our friends together and going out in the woods and calling ourselves which is again mostly out of rebellion but then the gods kind of found us we didn’t ritual that we started to have these amazing surreal and extraordinary experiences that we could not explain so I went through all these different Transformations but by the time I was leading an organization called called changes and doing public full moon rituals in parks and being a leader in the Pagan and Wiccan humidity at also got many many different kinds of initiation and the first degree that I got in college back then but I was 20 I got a degree from Siemens College in interdisciplinary ecology or human ecology I believe that now will be called something like whole system’s design right or something like one of the scholars and not feel right yeah I said that as well right grateful that made it possible for me to have a very deep understanding of ecology and that has been essential Paradigm in my life since my lovely private school that was a very excellent educational experience I had classes with like 11 people where we studied existentialism or Gandhi and non-violence we set it intentional communities we had a house called the beta house where we solarized create a greenhouse sunken hot tub in it made a zen garden learned to think about alternative energies and this was in from 1982-1983 I got a degree in 3 years and then I went back to school and got a master’s degree in psychiatric social work in Social Work Administration so I also worked with a very unwell chronically mentally ill believe in that now we’re going to talk about neurodivergent so you know where to find a new language all the time that seems more accurate Bunny Case by the timer 28 hours managing a group home I was the executive director of a group home for adults with chronic mental illness and I got married and moved to Eugene Oregon but all of these things were all about me having wonder and Delight in the world deeply loving human beings and knowing that the way that I was brought up and the things that have happened to me we’re not healthy and well and I wanted to understand psychology to figure out how do we get to this loving culture that I want and I’m again very aware of my own privilege and Power but I get to spend a lot of my time and Christian has called me a thot Vision I spend a lot of my time thinking about how could we have a new culture that would Center Lovington sense right so the living Love Revolution is the name of the cultural experiment that I’m in charge of I say that I’m in charge with I made it up and we all get to make up the meaning of our lives and we all get to and we will weather doing it consciously or not we are responsible for assigning the meaning of the things that have happened to us right so a good short example of that is at ecosex celebrating lover Earth the solstice event that we’re doing here on this beautiful land that I look at wish you could see the trees here there towering the sky is blue a bald eagle is flying overhead right now not making it up there’s a gorgeous Aphrodite statue that I get to the land next to a very ancient beautifully sinuous madrone tree the green and brown of its bark enticing it’s gorgeous here so one of the things that really do here is people have password so the events five day long and on Thursday Friday and Saturday for 2 hours everyone has chosen when they come to the registration Booth they got a necklace that goes with the small little tribal experience of password and I create relationships all year round and have people submit proposals for path working this year for the first time at midnight and the deadline is January 15th I have 15 workshops and seven of the eight password submitted on time so that’s how I know that this movement is growing and it’s going well and the first password submitted to me a woman named V Carhart and another woman named Michele rain are going to be leaving something called sexual initiation reframing trauma as a magical Act and the people that are on that package path I have about 20 people on it will get a chance to talk about their early sexual trauma histories and do an initiation Rite to reframe themselves as magical people so more than being a survivor of a trauma they’re going to Grapple with it they’re going to sit in the trouble together and tell their stories and listen to their stories and write to empower themselves to see themselves as amazing magicians and divinity’s in the center of their experience and they’re going to make up a positive sealing hole eyes not without grease but definitely without shame conclusion to that story for themselves doesn’t that sound cool those sounds great just so you know what side note is it’s really I feel like the the Redemptive quality in that kind of really the Alchemy of that traumas is to say to you about it myself which was it at those with the most empowering way I could make sense of the horror flick acts that were perpetrated on me and that on so many others is just to say some of us Souls did what they do in war when when you know the person with the most loving her heart sits on a grenade for the platoon and takes all the shrapnel so that it’s but then reveals if it were also reviewing the issue and if we if we can survive and thrive then we can bring it to the light and we can actually get to solve this issue and I kind of feel like we become like karmic sponges or something you know the process play more about the crime expunged what do you mean by that phrase so I can understand it’s a beautiful chamonix mushroom Shaman name Sean at home and you know she has her communion with the spirits of the Northwest nature spirits and we were one of the things that she heard and one of her Journeys was just that this disorder discourse of Ascension and in being lightworkers and there’s a lot of kind of highfalutin aggrandizement around some of the stuff and and that she was kind of put put in her place in a way by saying just clean up your reality you know it’s you got it we have to take the responsibility and have that if that’s the case then some of us who have been you know how to put on his Crucible we’ve we’ve had to become sort of like karmic sponges and we’re scrubbing off these scraping off these Barnacles off of the world-soul you know that the parasitic and don’t belong here so the more I mean if I can just swallow up like a giant whale just all of this Gunk and just get it stuck in my teeth and take it with me to the behind him clean his place and so yeah I get it thank you for explaining that cuz I was a little confusing I’ve also again had the great privilege of working with Daniel for have you heard of him no it’s a new name to me it’s really hilarious because he is actually from North Ridgeville Ohio which is where I grew up and I before meeting Dental really there wasn’t anybody outside of my family of origin that I would care to spend time with him or fertile because I I kind of feel like I escaped from there when I was 17 to go to college no and I worked very hard to come back into a relationship of love with the Lambs there in North Ridgeville and a big part of what’s me that possible is that I worked through a series of synchronicities I met General 4 and he has a system called ancestral medicine where those of us who if maybe bad weird and mysterious psychic things happen most of our Lives again I think there’s a connection between having survived a buttload of trauma and the hyper-vigilance that is set up in our nervous systems where we you know what does not want us to experience more trauma so we’re hyper-vigilant right and we were potentially things that are really going to be tragic but we anticipated we try to have foresight about avoiding it and all of that makes us take in a lot more sensory information and be more sensitive to proceeding it rape said it’s a lonely day I’ve always been super alert mainly because I’m so committed to nonviolence I don’t want to perpetuate the traumatic things that were done to me right I don’t know the unpurposed I really really want could be loving and kind to any small younger being so out of my commitment to not to participate in the city lubricant show as little as possible right I met Daniel and heard about descent system which is the idea that we all have bright and well ancestors and that especially those of us that have white skin privilege is that makes sense that translate that phrase and who are of northern European descent whose ancestors slaughtered and destroyed the indigenous cultures that were here on this continent before they arrived that we actually a month my friends we talked about it in the shorthand term called way to go right size a fading agriculture for the culture that’s happening and let it go is a place that I didn’t invent Paul’s last name as a book called where to go it’s basically saying that the defendant over culture itself is a virus and that people that are unconsciously Dominator haven’t deconstructed their privilege around race and class that their behavior is destroying the planet right and that all of us that have white privilege and all of us of European ancestry need to clean up our own bloodline so this is me referring back to your psychic sponge, so I have come to believe that is my responsibility to heal the Hungry Ghost in my own blood lines do that I have to know my own history my own DNA where did my people come from what God did they worship What lands did they inhabit and most of us don’t really have any related this to that so by taking a 9-month ancestral medicine training with Daniel and then being supervised by him now so that I can be a practitioner of his system I’ve had to do the prison work of looking up my DNA I took a DNA blood test and found out where everything I could about that I found out I have Eastern European Jewish roots and I didn’t know about I found out that I have more than African blood that I didn’t know about I found out that has Saudi Arabian blood didn’t know about which makes sense cuz my dark skinned Italian father who had a lot of trouble with racism growing up in the 50s and 60s right that was an impact there was a lot of race and religious intolerance in my family board and growing up with a big division me to my father’s Italian Catholic background and my grandmother’s and my mother a Protestant White English and Irish and French background in the process of working with Daniel identified the bright and well dead people in my bloodline and now I have an ancestor altar I talk to them daily I pray to them daily and I’ve used the connection with those bright and well ancestors to clean up the hungry ghosts in all four of my primary Bloodlines and in the process of doing that I carry them with me and their integrated with me and I really feel strongly as most of those of us who study with Daniel to that it is our job to clean up our own Bloodlines first and to not do that is a spiritual bypass right so I can’t walk around and tell and be judgy about other people and their shit unless I’ve cleaned up my own first this will that make sense to you yeah that’s a great that’s a great point and if I if I could I’d like to ask you if we could get into the house that this path is it says express through the effort. E Temple specifically that that Retreat that I was hearing about where that that seems like that’s all people are coming together to get those hard-to-reach spots you know so the living Love Revolution has like a whole system you have personal what I call Zone zero the inside of your head work Zone one would be like the two of us talking to each other is a Zone 1 Zone 2 saga plaid permaculture write down for would be different cultures merging and clashing and cross-pollinating zone 5 would be the guy at the body itself the whole planet and I have created remediation systems for all of those zones and you can read about that on the Eco sex Orcas Island. Org website there’s a page that discusses the zone so that we could talk about in a holistic way down zero and someone I teach Cascadia holistic peer counseling the peer counseling system that prepares people to learn how to clean up his own Zero by getting loving witnessing attention from other people and treating even though you know some of us still need to go to trained therapist psychiatrist that’s important limited. But our lives would be so much easier if we all have your belly say hey I’m upset can I get a mini and some would just stop and for 10 minutes give you their full loving attention and you could clear the emotional distress her in and then go back to whatever consensually agree upon activity or in the middle of before you have the most mobs that gives this is so important and I feel like a lot of people in the eye mean I just don’t want to call the self-help movement I want to call it Mutual Cooperative no one is alone at me you know what’s better than cleaning up our toxic Gunk so we can attend to the Ecstasy and pleasure of being a body was designed for the bus is it seems like yeah you can take care of it after hours after you clock out and then you know if you can feel really happy about things up in the morning when you have to be there small groups we want to have deep resources because we are pleasure activist we want all of our relationship at whatever level to be loving and satisfying and pleasurable so I had to invent something called the Aphrodite Temple because you know I taught for 12 years at the Center for Sex positive culture short names that wet spot by those of us that taught there and hung out and made it happen. I think last year or the year before it was in Seattle that whole time and a great privilege again of being around only Natchitoches but executive director a lot and I’ve learned so much from her and she encouraged me to teach there but I wanted to do things that were about sacred sexuality and mostly it was BDSM Kink which is not I’m not disparaging that at all I needed a Social container for me to work out my trauma and to work out different positions of power and to role-play all kinds of different things and in the process of teaching and socializing at the Center for Sex positive culture for a decade really I learned all kind of by that method well my thing I really like is sacred sexuality I like to have sex while there’s an altar with Siri that can vote and I started to understand that for me my primary relationship before using polyamory language was with the deity Aphrodite and that I didn’t want to have sexual interactions with other people that interrupted the flow of deep love and devotion the kind of bhakti practice that I had with that goddess I didn’t want any of my other relationships with humans to interrupt that flow inside a figure out a way to do that and in the process bring out a way to do that and not wanting to get into heteronormative dyads because no matter how many times and how much work and effort how much therapy I got and how much talking we did that dyadic pairing always had a power-up and power-down position and it was too painful for me to continue it interrupted the flow of my relationship with Aphrodite cuz all that translate because every time I get close to being intimate anyone I have to explain to them there’s more than meets the eye going on here of cultivating a connection with no some DVD that you would have to have informed consent to encountering and I don’t want to have you be freaked out so you got to study that I am a what-do-you-call-it and it’s I’m a package deal with the device some of you and have you understand that piece from my personal spiritual Devotion to the goddess Aphrodite that I ended up creating entire system that I now call a therapeutic education and ecstatic education weekend so after desirable education and it really was out of my frustration and trying to translate what I was doing just individual I just wanted Playmate I just want to peers I just want to have an awesome mother love and time for cheers and I think about all of this text to sort of millennial Tech culture and co-working spaces it sounds like you’re great at you were creating cold Living Spaces the way we were working spaces now got it that’s right and that’s why I say queer Centric and poly normative because I’m saying for the. Of time that this weekend is an Aphrodite Temple weekend starts at 1 on one day and ends at 1 two days later right to from 1 on Friday or the next Temple that we’re having is May 26th to 28th so over Memorial Day weekend it’s in Portland we charge 352 $500 sliding scale for it you can read about it Aphrodite temple.com and the essay that I was reading from from queer magic is the first time I’ve ever tried to actually articulate what I’m doing which was really a weird feeling I kind of felt like I was showing people my genitals it was like the most awkward I’m shy all my friends are like how come you’re not writing about the second thing because it’s private it’s like my biggest Joy and I’m at some level Terror terrified that if people really find out what I’m doing the come and kill me right because the cultures so but because they put up this book and they’re my good friends and there’s like we really want you as a woman magician whose you know we love your work. Please write about it and it took me almost nine months to write this essay start someone on Friday usually the same will be Saturday in Atlanta Monday and the first day and a half of it is are all exercises to make sure that were actually in our bodies as present as we can be and not disassociated that we’re moving away from being performative insects because most sex for most adults is a Performance Based on their programming they received for what it means to be a man or what it means to be a woman or what it means to choose not to be either and we’re still super focused on the impact of the performance and what we’re trying to do is move you from that place of performance to being a space that’s an intact field of sensory information and aesthetic Delight where you know that you are part of a we Consciousness that is singing with bliss and ecstasy we want to move people into their experience in their body and away from their concept of what sex is it’s the berry Big magical trick and we have to create a temporary autonomous Zone which is a word that Hakim Bey came up with are you familiar with that word yes very much very poetic terrorism full of therapy sensory information and Sex Magic where you get to be with usually between 20 and 30 people max out the most we’ve ever had in temples 33 and that was a little clunky and on Saturday night there’s a cone of powers with a spell it’s an act of magic and we get into groups of five each person gets 20 to 40 minutes depending on how the time how it’s gone to articulate what they want and then receive it from for other people we do it it’s designed really carefully as a culture Jam against heteronormativity a culture gym against sexual oppression or capitulation or coercion and it’s ecstatic and its Democratic and its egalitarian and sometimes people say what I really want with my body is asking for right now is to be crabs like a little baby and have lullaby sung to me and have my hair petted and sometimes people say I need all four of my orifices dramatically and then thoroughly stimulate is simultaneously and I needed from all of you right now and there’s absolutely no judgment about what people request and it’s our honor and our sacred duty to deliver what is requested of us and so the the Priestess training system that I have I say is training in becoming a transpersonal resource of love and lust and desire for your community what the work is does that make sense all that and orgasmic Gardener is a happy Gardener we have been holding for Aphrodite Temple a year since about 2009 and we have a priestess body right now that’s composed of 13 people and like ecosex celebrating Mother Earth I’m the Matrix the architect of the social permaculture design of these activities well I just want to take that input if that’s so beautiful just that has the potential of making permaculture sexy is that sexy my friend it is right and it’s it’s missing that piece the 9th form of capital it’s a sexual capital of sexual energy flow I mean I really hope I realize I fantasize about a nude PDC actually informed is another book that will come out before the end of this year called sex positive now Co edited by Alina kibosh and I forgotten the man that she’s doing with so I forgive forgive me Alina but he’s I believe Australian and I have an essay and they’re called from Roots to shoots the sex positive origins of ecosexuality movement in which an articulating all the queers through the blue laws of armed services that deposited large numbers of queer people in New York and Chicago and San Francisco by when they kick them of the military and again when I go back home how that turned into gay leather culture and gay leather bar culture how that turned into the radical faeries contingencies the dike separatist lesbian things up eco-feminist women artists like on a man Giada and Mary Beth Edelson we’re doing things in the seventies and eighties the Guerrilla girls how that all moved through a cup how it turned into queer performance art how that queer prefer was something that Annie Sprinkle and Beth Stevens found United partnership in and how their ecosexual weddings and their early artlab performances of getting married before it was legal to be married as a clear of them doing this public works of art and that performance turn into the Eco sexuality movement and how I’m a part of that movement cuz all of that so well this is the kind of stuff I want to be having campfire smores ecosex Orcas Island. Org is the website with these awesome stickers if you send me your snap name and I’ll send you a packet of fun stuff yes animist right you know you hit the trees and the birds and the bees and the mycelium and the Stardust that those things are also is. As we are at those things have a right to exist as we do and that we should be learning from these nuts on human natural beings that designs for a culture that we should be building culture more like a beehive or like a mycelial mat or like a cluster of stars then like the idea is that the same Uber culture turned out and sells to us. It’s our honor and our responsibility to listen deeply to our own songs to the land to the nonhuman beings and live in concert in Harmony and peace and loving consensual relationship with those beings and that now is the time for us to turn those of us who would like to turn this culture and move with quickness with alacrity through this tiny little portal that’s open right now to get through to these other dimensions and change the nature of the universe the nature of our experience in these body I don’t know how long the portal will be open I know that is open now and everything in me is sounding a call to find the other beings who want to do this work to press forward and make it happen beautiful beautiful that was a great rabble rousing speech and yeah I feel like we’ve this is a cat feels like we’re in some time or Bermuda Triangle or something because I feel like we’ve only been talking for 5 minutes and time is just flying and I feel like I definitely want to I feel like this is a great foundation for you as a guest and I want to unpack and going to so many of these Dimensions that you played out as we have as you have time in the future if I could ask Chicana just there’s a few points that I would like to to address with you from the interview and I don’t have golf dig up the link and maybe you have it off the top of your head but there was an episode of a podcast where you were interviewed specifically all about kind of inter workings of the Aphrodite Temple experience yet . org which is my website there are links to most of my podcast there also there’s a website called Aphrodite temple.com that podcast is embedded on the website there if you forget you can write to me at ecos x 22 at gmail.com and I’ll send it to you personally it is having all of my media cuz I’d like to because I’m mostly busy in the world if your not generating more media than you’re consuming you’re in trouble and I right yeah I understand questions you want to ask me I’ll try to slow down and thank you so much you have wasted this is just been a spellbinding literally spellbinding roller coaster ride of just getting a bit Taste of everything has been an absolute drill and I appreciate it I know this is exactly the rabbit hole this is it this is a plural this is a rabbit holes multiples of rabbit holes in this conversation that are all delightful so some of the things I feel like I want with most thrilled about when you express them in and I’m not you know we don’t have to match the Glory of Love Will Find the link to that and people can check it out but there were two specific really empowered empowering and for me very transformative insights that you shared about having this experience in these groups and you’re going to be places so so bravely greatest lie and in one of them was at it was really we’re leaving for me when you talked about how you know you’ve worked with you you’ve gone deep with with the lifelong meditators who say that you’ll never conquer your you know anxiety disorder you just need to literally find a way to have some peace about it and go put your life and we can help each other with coping with these things but don’t put this Purity like this is an Empire realm and we’re going to swap fluids or going to swap Karma’s and all these things going to happen the best we can do centrally is to just be be honest about it and surrender and share and healing in Penn Valley now I’m kind of paraphrasing but you don’t scare me as a Survivor I’ll just say that you know this is what we’re still using that terminology it’s at, I feel contaminated and I feel it sometimes contagious and I feel like there’s a new Psalm Isadora who is it you know very well respected very very well-established casualty of the war against these parasitic entities I would say you know sheet she was quoted saying that she never wanted to talk about what she had been through you know that for a long time because in her words who would love me and to me that’s the biggest the tragedy of how these things fuck with your mind is it is if they would tips if you can find a way to love yourself and be loved and to share love then you can win but if you were if you were you feel so in pure that you that you don’t want to touch anybody or be touched or be opened up then they win yeah and then you die in the next life so can be a solace if you will is realizing that we actually live in a non-dual Multiverse and any kind of concept that splits the world into then becomes problematic so because the fading agriculture is dominated by dualistic religions it’s easy to fall into the spell of Duality where things are sinful or good as if anything could be that simplistic it’s actually not the truth is not the truth of her experience and I’m again great privilege and blessing to work with Reginald Ray and do a month-long. TuneIn 2011 to 2012 and sit and doing many many hours of what he cheats a practice where he tells us through experience and leads us through the experienced that the body is living in a non dual experienced the body doesn’t have an understanding of sin it is the mind that assigns the idea of impurity at all it is the mind and its judgments and It’s Tricky fucking fading Uber culture enforced programming that would ever have the idea that the body was in Pure or damaged or diseased or sinful or tragically you know broken it’s not true just from a science perspective that I can talk to you through this media that were communicating that our souls are touching and we understand each other is a freaking miracle that the body is functioning with all this biotta and nervous systems and it’s a freaking Miracle the body existing is a miracle and there’s not anything ugly or computer or dirty those are all thought forms from fragile human understanding from The Limited confined space of a dualistic imposed concept that is not the truth about our bodies that’s not the truth about our actual experience we are vast and immense we are at this moment full of Dark Matter Where our ancestors and the gods lie that is the truth about my experience and I offer it as an opportunity for an alternative Paradigm that could be Liberatore and cause you to see your own magnificence and experience your own eminence and the power of Aphrodite is the ability to experience yourself as God and deity and understand that you’re holy and to perceive that Golden Light of eminence in other beings and that’s our work to live in that space and a generator culture that honors that space and they give us that experience of bliss and ecstasy that is our Birthright yeah I’m going to have it at Francis Senior Life and adding more logs to the fire you know in the right way that’s going to increase the temperature for disinfecting the unhygienic parts you know that that we need help with and it just burn it off thank you yeah we’re totally deep vows for all the stuff that you’re working out and it’s been a huge inspiration I feel like it’s a prerequisite for anybody to come anywhere near my body Temple to have this level of discourse about stuff so there’s another factor that you brought up and it will just the units will be the last thing I want to I want to touch on for an hour from you know what what I was so moved by but another another very functional very practical protocol procedure you know for say that you had in place was a very just a very succinct precise bit of wisdom around with the way you language how it’s in a while probably do you know how was going to paraphrase it to the best my memory but if it’s that a man in my from my memory to my words it’s it’s really that there is this what the truth that you’re expressing was it there is a pretty much inevitable inevitability of a wonky kind of power Dynamic of either either in it if you’re only having died attic you know want to people in a couple’s private sexual encounter you really not seeing each other’s blind spots and there’s a tendency to either to either be transgressed upon or to transgress upon another and if you don’t have the referee or witness or third-party to observe the Dynamics from a high level of skill and and consent training then pretty much you’re always setting yourself up to in some way violate consent or ground beef traumatized and so even if it’s not this sloppy it’s really not about it being a sloppy orgy where people aren’t paying attention it’s about having at least one person be very Vigilant present and facilitate and move energy and to make sounds of and that’s what was work for me and what I would kind of add to it unless you’re sure that’s what’s happening for you you just started liking train to a collective hive mind of a fueling together but it does indict that heteronormative dyadic sort of Paradigm that is just a nuclear family curse and I always looking for new ways to burst that bubble of the Disney World going to Disneyland for you to share that in your own words if they if your if I’m if you remember what I’m referring to and I know what you’re talking about and I think it’s even more clearly articulated I’ll read the last paragraph of the essay that I started with and it has a great concise capitulation of what you’re referring to okay if the goal of sex is not to procreate then we are liberated from biological imperatives of mating attraction based on biological determinism the hormonal drives and Fairmount releases in our DNA is continual and statement towards intercourse and procreation are no longer the reason is why we are having sex as we move away from gender essentialism binary Notions that can modify men as purely Financial resource providers and women as purely social sexual providers we then expand the opportunities for negotiating sexual in economics sharing and recognizing the multitude of abilities interest possibilities identities and so on that every individual can embody we move steadily away from heterocysts normativity and towards queerness is Duality no longer dominates our understanding of gender there are more than 2 genders they are not them ethically opposed to each other and there is no opposite sex to be at war with instead there an infinite number of gendered displays each one a unique experience each one and ephemeral Epiphany specific to the relational context in which it co arises gender itself is now a liminal State a Mercurial expression that shifts and Glides across the reflective surface of the body’s before us the relational perspectives in context provided for sex and living Love Revolution Aphrodite temples are all about Recreation and community and Ecstasy of auto-erotic autonomy inside our consent-based Taz of democratic sexual loving meritocracy every single celebrant becomes a sacred and holy fractal of divinity we are each of us then a shimmering note in a harmonious CarGurus resounding with her name Aphrodite Bravo perfect beautiful thank you so much I wish I could but I just a round of applause stretching through the galaxies to hear that this is let’s make this planet a beautiful luxury resort for the divine feminine to want to come back here and hang out for being such a halogen open an expansive being am deeply listening to me it feels great. So let’s carry on hopefully after we can follow up and I love to hear some Beautiful recaps of the convergence coming up and I will go further into somebody’s topics and hopefully this will start doing a lot of good and please people listening access the resources that aphrodite Temple. Calm and again if you just want to stop your websites and will call tonight org Aphrodite temple.com and ecosex Orcas Island. Org and there many other links on there that’ll lead you to internet portals to these other worlds please come join us awesome alright then Terry we will be in touch soon and have a wonderful rest of every moment please go to www.crunch.com can cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donation will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email fan at Township Park. Com Thomas Day

Crystal Toys for Sexual Healing with Chakrubs Founder Vanessa Cuccia TPP134

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In this episode I’m joined by one of the most admirable entrepreneurs in the sexual health and wellness field, Vanessa Cuccia. She guides us through a tear and heart wrenching personal story of transformation, healing, and empowerment through merging crystal healing with sacred sexuality. She shares the hardships and breakthroughs that shaped the development of the Chakrubs crystal sex toys brand, then we explore the future horizon and brainstorm on marketing strategies that will hopefully lead to collaborate efforts to heal the sexual wounds of the world.

Please visit her website and connect on social media:

www.chakrubs.com

IG: @Chakrubs

Twitter: @Chakrubs

About Vanessa:

Vanessa Cuccia is regarded as a pioneer in the sex toy industry for introducing her methods of using crystals for sexual healing and empowerment on a global scale. She is the founder and creator of Chakrubs, The Original Crystal Sex Toy Company, and she continues to receive testimonials from people around the world who use her Chakrub products and methods. These overwhelmingly positive testimonials have inspired her to write her upcoming book, Crystal Healing and Sacred Pleasure.

Since conceptualizing her initial designs for crystal pleasure tools in 2011, and establishing her brand in 2012, Cuccia has been an influencer in the social movement of sex positivity, self-love, and personal awareness by bridging the gap between sensuality and spirituality. As creator of products that symbolize the essence of these movements, she spearheaded the ethos of the brand which is inspiring many to nurture their own emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and spiritual connection.

Cuccia cultivated her knowledge of crystals and energy work while she was living in LA to pursue a career in music. During this time she worked a part-time job at an adult store where she fostered her education on sex positivity. Cuccia merged both principals which sparked the idea of sexual exploration with the use of crystals. The recognition for the potential crystals have to facilitate energy movement inspired Cuccia to utilize crystals to enhance sexual pleasure. Cuccia’s work has been a fixture in the Hammer Museum and Museum of Sex, featured in magazines such as New York Magazine, Cosmopolitan, Elle and Allure, appeared on notable digital platforms such as Buzzfeed and VICE, and has been featured on shows such as The Doctors and Conan. Cuccia has also received the attention of many notable artists who have collaborated with their own sensibility, bringing to light different aspects of the profound messages Chakrubs inspires.

As a certified crystal healer and reiki practitioner, Cuccia continues to pursue knowledge of crystals and metaphysical modes of healing to help those who have experienced sexual trauma or simply wish to deepen pleasure and connection to self, spirit, and others. Cuccia is a musician whose knowledge of energy extends through her performances. She currently resides in New York.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin eligible of the truck in the township Funk podcast episode number 136 I’m being joined by dick Carver he is the founder of lumber Joe and he does you the sex toy designer and woodworker and I discovered his amazing products just synchronistically right at the time I was about to do the the previous interview with Vanessa Cuccia the founder of chakras which is the crystal sex toy company and at that time on social media I found some pictures of these handmade sex toys that are just genius brilliant beautiful amazing stunning stand-alone works of art not to mention you know if your having weird problems in your relationship or if you are just a solo person that likes to be penetrated with things or there’s still more than just you know fancy paper weights if you could imagine so turn all about what you can do with these fabulous wooden sex toys and first Dick if you would just tell us a bit about your background where did you voice your life pass like leading up to this and then you can tell us zoom in on the story of the lumberjill company brand process and then we’ll talk a bit about what your Future’s looking like yeah sure thing so I want to see it was around 2012 at a point in my life where I really wasn’t sure what direction I was going to go in I had I just got a job with an online company doing search engine optimization and that was fine but you know how I’ve always known like I wasn’t the kind of person to stay at a company and tell him move up and all that kind of shit so you know I was like I got to do something for myself I just don’t know what it’s going to be and what can I do with my hands and I’m going to enjoy doing 7 days a week and I always enjoyed knives and swords and things like that so I was thinking maybe I’ll be a Custom Knife maker because I could definitely see a path in that industry of companies that get a custom designs in big box stores and also just do custom work that has really well so I was having a conversation with a really good friend of mine and I really value her opinion so destroying a pastor they having a thing about being a Custom Knife maker and I don’t know why she said this but I think install a wooden sex toys and I don’t quite know where it came from but it really just locked my attention that actually sounds really cool so I started looking online and saying you know that the artifacts and what people are doing these days I guess part of it was having that connection to human history cuz I really like I guess I just really like seeing new earlier point in human history was really but also I just had a lot of new ideas that I wasn’t seeing other people do I thought this would be a great way for me to stretch my legs and Atreyu tivity and my skill and a couple years after that initial idea and treating Lumber Joe leader crafts and so this one’s for 4 years come March 4th March that is so cool because I was at the show last year and yeah there was like a We-Vibe I think it was we’ve I was there doing one of the one of those presentations for the end it was amazing was the first time I’d seen the sort of archaeological timeline of the sex toys that have been discovered and the different materials that were used in a person have to have all of them while they are coming out from Hilo all the way up to tell a build Onyx and B are and all that kind you know I text if I was really that was the first time I had seen these amazing craft is all natural totally Paleolithic sex toys in the blue blue my mind and it really piqued my interest and I haven’t I haven’t explored it for her since then except for knowing about chakrubs back to know about the work you’re doing yourself can you please talk a little bit about just your if you’ve done your Explorations or any kind of research or yeah pick me how to become a Xavier still fix boring that that this relations as much as I would like to I guess because most the time I’m making them instead of reading about so yeah yeah my cup runneth over man definitely has been has been crazy about more than I have hands for sure but that’s a great problem to have but yeah when I initially started some Stone from Stone samples from I think I think the oldest one I thought was maybe like thirty thousand BC play just just the way it was so smooth and everything what they were saying was yeah we found statues and stuff and but when you see a smooth example like this I wanted to go through it like somebody has a dildo sex toys and I mean people be sexually gratified since we got here but you know this is nothing new so it is kind of fun for me to just look at pictures of you know because these artifacts have been really crazy lately because I’m begging bills all that time I got reincarnated and just got right back to work making more like that be the craziest story I wish I knew for sure I’d know there’s ways to find out for sure it is definitely some plant plant medicines that will give you some practitioners that can help you reconnect to that but I’ve I mean I look at the work can I paint over anybody listening to this please absolutely do yourself to save her even if you’re not in the market for it right now I mean certainly gives for anybody mine obit seeing the beauty of the work I’m totally a blown away by the craftsmanship than and yeah if you could still want to talk a bit about sore as much as you had as much as you can talk about the process in what goes into it and you know the rest of these are made NM back to the point that you just made about you know you’re not in the market not all of these are sex toys I certainly do make sex toys but sometimes people just come to me and they just want to look at you or something I’ve met several pieces that were purely artistic if you just want to display or crew just likes the car he’s an artist himself I think most lead paint but he he really digs need to know the new old-school wooden install phallic statues of me quite a few of those for him but yeah just if they just look cool to you you just want him sitting around a cool Conversation Piece those are a lot of fun as far as the process goes design-wise I have to start with a design with okay but as far as the design goes I try to come up with stuff I haven’t seen before particularly in Woodward most of your wooden sex toys are going to be turned on a lathe so they’re going to be straight and symmetrical and most of which is fine but I just want to do different things so you know part of it is just trying to present people with something that they are familiar with it as far as that material and the other part of me trying to challenge myself as far as making sure that it it feels good if it is indeed a sex toy. I choose the what I’m going to use for it and I guess one thing that sets me apart from everybody else is I use a lot of hand tools which it does make the work go a little bit more slowly but it is it’s a part of this part of my process now and it’s something that I’m very comfortable with and it is and I’m fine with it a little bit longer but I usually rough out the shapes with a hatchet first a small Hatchet and from there I move onto you know smaller and I-45 the shape and carbon. The way I want a rotary tool or belt sander for certain things but for the most part I use hand tool sandpaper rasp files and sealing up with a private the only thing I’m not happy with it but I’m always trying to evolve with the food grade coating that is very durable and safe for people to to use internally but I just keep trying different things just to find out what’s best but I mean is this word for me all this time very well I never had any surgery issues with that never had anybody say they had any issues with it so it’s just perfectly safe for this for this sort of thing but yeah it’s just a lot of work and a lot of time but it’s worth it in the end I think it’s a difference that people really can can feel when they get in her hand and in other places that’s cool I love that it’s so down to earth in Jesus gives a whole new meaning to the word Woodshop you know I mean I just listened to podcasts or play music. I’m sounds like a great meditation just a little you know else yeah yeah actually do listen to music a lot of times or podcast from various things emotional and mental place where I’m working because and in what is actually really good for whole and on energy and I don’t want to charge you with anything negative on a working on it because it is in my hands so often as a matter of fact and you know do as I say not as I do but yourself for what I like to do is rest the wood on base looking like over my heart chakra and carve towards me cuz I give me more control and what Leverage do they spend so much time that close to me in over my heart chakra I don’t I don’t want somebody to get something in front of your body’s a charge of negative energy so I usually put on some Chillstep or stop and get your stuff compilation or you know just watch something where you know I’m getting a lot of good laughs or not feeling good about watching it so that when they get it they even if they can’t put their fingers on at the you know it makes them feel good to have it and you know find a little whatever so that is so cool I’m so glad you said that cuz some people are just not connected to intention and and I’m glad that in this I can’t say when it started but I’m seeing more people kind of do have Palm chakra blessings on plates of food at restaurants and things and just said by all means you know in the realm of what you’re going to be in the throes of ecstasy with to have that be a real a real purifier in blessed and intentional process that is a huge selling point in a fruit for me and for a lot of people are getting to know you know who knows what is coming out of you know sweatshops or or just chemical have highly chemical Sylveon with I guess without a bill without being too hyper critical or I don’t want to censor you at all but you know I know a lot of sex toy manufacturer I guess the more enlightened ones are going to try to do their best to maybe be more Grand a more sustainable but it doesn’t get really more chance to Tampa or than what you’re doing and so I wonder if when you when you’re in the marketplace you know we’re in the industry how do you how have you felt about or or encountered or dealt with just that the juxtaposition you know and in the in the marketplace if they know if you had to comment on is that is that something you leave list I gave stop poisoning yourself with X whatever not the brand name for say but just like the what is what is the unquestioned Paradigm about just polymer everything and you know yeah I mean I definitely try to use it as a selling point for my products that you know it is biodegradable like there’s no by-products leftovers wood shavings and sawdust that I put it right back outside where it came from in the first place but you know that are harmful harmful and others and I mean good quality silicone like a platinum pure silicones a really good glasses another really good material but yeah there are a lot of companies out there who are making crap that have been making toy that crap and there’s a lot of good information out there from some of the sex toy reviewers and bloggers on on those types of the most types of operations that makes me just telling people to steer clear cuz they’re not made out of stable David can make you sick so whatever cuz for the most part I have seen in friends with a lot of those people to you know they do their best to might not have a whole lot of wasted material and you know they let me for one is this money I mean that stuff not cheap so so they could have stretch as much as I can but you know I think as long as people are being responsible if I don’t really have a big problem with it but the thing is like yeah please do be responsible as possible and definitely educate yourself on what your sex toys are made of cuz there’s a lot of companies that just don’t care that Leo sex cells we can make these jelly things and come out there and we’ll sell a million of them at me while you got some sort of you know chronic illness and you don’t know where you got it from so it’s just that that’s how I feel about it it’s cool I’m wondering so do you do trade shows and hot what’s what’s been your your marketing strategies and your sort of you know your past into a getting some attention and getting some press and write up some stuff I haven’t done any trade shows yet I would like to but you just you know life gets in the way and so is Otto Izakaya coming up from behind just just from some life stuff that happened at summer not really able to travel around as much as I would like to but we’ll see what the year hole that I definitely want to make it to live in Georgia and I know there’s a lot of things that just happened in Atlanta so I would love to get to some of those at the very very least as far as marketing goes United started a hundred bucks I have a lot of startup so it really came down to learning social media wish even is even as a millennial I was saying I’m not really want to be able to wear all the time Instagram like I don’t want to kick somebody but a target audience and interact with them in a very direct level and that’s that’s pretty much been that I haven’t spent a dime really all marketing it’s just been mixed up the catches people’s attention be very distinct about the product identity I call it basic basically just when somebody looks it’s something that you may they know that you made it so be very distinct in that regard stand out and you know make something that captures people’s attention so fast that’s really been the the strategy so far it’s working pretty well I mean I mean last year I’ve ended up filming a television show with our with Playboy TV as a show called toy ride and if you had told me back in 2020 I mean 2012 after you tell me the TV show with the crew from Playboy TV I mean that that better than crazy to me but in that. I was you know standing in my little workshop camera Crews having a back and forth with the host of the show and they’re asked questions and stuff like that it was in his crazy so a whole lot to get started you just have to you got to get started and you know just just just be resourceful I guess is the best advice I could give awesome and how was the what was that like some excuse just to get a sense in like I said I haven’t done it earlier haven’t done had the time yet to do too much research but I can’t cuz I’m so stoked you’re doing so you have a deal website and people can place custom orders if you have a shopping cart or how does that all work and I’m imagining the Playboy but give you a bump at Lisa transactions worth right now is on etsy.com that’s I try to have stuff in inventory no vacation mode right now. So much work to do it was just like please don’t order anything else please for a little while he’s away with anything else right now but thanks they products that they can serve those needs but a lot of my work is custom yes and that’s that’s proven to be very successful for me cuz you know a lot of saliva sex toy industry is hating one one-size-fits-most or you know it’s got this in that future cuz it’s trendy now and a lot of people were like yeah but if I can build this kind of waste I needed to do this in that I need to be this shape or whatever and it so they’re able to come to me and really get something you know actually custom made just for them so so that’s proven to actually be very I guess I’m kind of curious about how people miss that like he’s appreciative that really ask them and see what their needs are thinking ultimately get something is this suits them and takes care of their needs and desires nice as possible so another thing for you I’m in the ecological design feel myself and there is so much to learn about woods and I mean I’m not that’s not my wheelhouse for say I’m not really super zoomed in on the dinos the taxonomy tree species and knowing exactly all of the different sort of grains and textures and in applications but I’m totally curious what you were selection process is or what you offer and what the stories are behind that if you were to able to read books you must stay as as in a part of your your your selling points one of your being here is the different moods you might be in the trees and their qualities and there s sensor and I’m sure that’s a whole esoteric science that end in art and science of of the woods collection show yeah to be honest lot of times it is come down to what is it looks good it’s good to other people so to the most often are domestic words to the u.s. is Cherry mall at cherries are pretty light colored wood that is pretty forgiving to work by hand and you can actually get a pretty good shapes out of it is as far as carving toast walnuts more or less the same way but it’s a darker wood I’m going to like diet or add color to a toy aisle usually make it out of the lighter color cherry wood if it’s a lot of details for that wanna I usually don’t doing too much color 2 hours cuz it’s very dark brown very warm tones to it all the time but my favorite was to work with but obviously you know people’s attention exotic what is usually where it’s at and I definitely try to make sure that there are few different places that buy from in the US that they claim to be sustainable do you like working with purple heart which is actually purple as a witness purple I just is The Hive in my inventory somewhere but yes actually purple which is but a cool thing to me with cocobolo wood a few times which is very dense and diverse would but there’s a piece that I made it was just an art piece for someone in that was it was very dark for the most part of a Genesis fiery streaks of like burning orange and red through with that was so cool to work with another art piece out of a piece of ebony wood and just just just dark and it almost like a sparkly kind of quality in the world are man just you know just ask if there’s a particular color that you’re interested in or if you see if something else ever met that you know you like the back so I’m just I know from my own experience just dealing with in trees in tree pruning and tree care what not there’s definitely lots of different qualities of other way but it sounds like it’s flexible enough from with while you’re doing it doesn’t sound like there’s a lot of a lot of wood that totally wouldn’t work some stuff when it’s not work at all but if it’s that flexible on your end that people could if they did have an attachment or something and maybe was a tree that there was a big part of your life and it died and they want to memorialize it by making it to a sex toy or something right for sure for sure yeah it’s definitely really run into too many with and I just couldn’t use in any way that I couldn’t use for a sex toy it isn’t to be an art piece normally would it comes down to is to where I use it or not is the the oil content of the wood they’re just some ways that have so much in their own oils in them that the oil based finish that I used to coat them in Taylor will take very strangely very very weird with oil and oil a kind of retarded what kind of retard so there are too many was I run into with that but it definitely happens from time to time you out that this is not the only limitation well I see that is so exciting so I don’t know if you even get this a lot but I can imagine that a world just like the food like the food service industry has kind of a like a bias to feel or think or believe and there’s no various legitimate reasons to to feel this way but I guess I would imagine that some people were saying oh but where does Porres Center can Harden Harbor bacteria and oh what a what a mess that would be but it seems like it’s a hundred percent totally proven hygienic the way it’s that you’re pressing it and I mention do you ever have to encounter that that in Korean and what were you took normally say to that I kind of don’t hesitate ocean possibly yeah that’s definitely one that comes up Ally and probably second to the Splinter question look eyes if you can look at my Etsy store it says I’m so well over a hundred and fifty of these days by this point I think that’s just what I sold through answer this not doubting myself I’ll just go directly to PayPal I wouldn’t still be selling them if you were catching Splinter is in there or if it’s cool they definitely some people out there who don’t do it correctly I’ve seen those if you have questions about somebody doing it right or wrong let me know play yeah you can answer as far as the forest nature of yeah if you don’t seal it under sure of what which is why I am very extensive tell me something you can take like 2 weeks away properly you know seal up a show up a toy but if you do it right you do it with the right kind of finished it’ll it’ll last for a lifetime if if if the consumer being of the customer in there and keep it clean and very easy to clean out of District how to be on the safe side I actually don’t weigh more testing on the most people say you’re not supposed to boil when sex toys I put them in boiling water before and I didn’t really see anything happen alcohol so I could take a lot of a lot of stuff you know you should take that stuff I usually just tell people that you can’t see Lisa my experience I don’t know that you can sanitize with the way you would other toys like silicone or glass so I wouldn’t I wouldn’t try to bleach solution I haven’t done that yet but I just right now I would try that and I still want to do more testing on the boiling thing before I tell anybody that’s cool but if you want to use it with another partner just put a condom on it yeah otherwise I’ve seen no issue with with it being unsanitary anything like that when was just filled up is completely waterproof horse at that point awesome. I was just going to ask you then what will be the cleaning procedure that sounds pretty pretty awesome and wow so you are going to blow up man I can just do it I mean I guess in order to scale this to the to the level of supplying you know one two or three and every you know sex toy leavening persons toy chest right then you’re going to stay here and there but I mostly just try to take it day today and you know like you out I don’t really even know how far this goes obviously there is there a larger companies out there that has mass manufacturing stuff like that I’m not so much trying to do that because I still want to keep that handmade quality to it so yeah me and you haven’t teach them people know how to do it eventually just just to keep things going but for right now I’m you know I’m very happy to make these one by one with my own hands I think this again that that personal quality that people can kiss cuz look like if you hit me up on Instagram I am the one answering or whatever it is and that’s a very special sort of bond that that you don’t get a lot of other companies somewhere maintain that as much as possible but cross those bridges when we get there right on that’s cool too makes me think too it’s in the irony is that really have the sco background and really it’s like I can I can feel that sense that there’s this tension between how everybody just expect everything to be on this almost narcissistic hyper popularity contest all over social media everything is good at 10x you know and 10x in q1 or go home and actually I think that might be hard to find I want to be impossible to find it I just want to have my bread and butter and do my thing and not be bothered and that my friends in my defense than a boutique and then if you were to just make a yeah make a a sort of Niche out of the the art form and then I think you will probably be thrilled if people would take your Workshop store you know you can tour around and kind of get your people going so that there’s one of you and every zip code to know and so supposed to you having to sign a contract with Walmart tomorrow and raise fund Capital my right right yeah I definitely don’t want to go that route is having sex with his toys that are filled with entrepreneurial venture funding stress yeah I know your core support is sold out at that point and then we’re going to do that because of the people that have been supporting me bad night I continue to do this I’m able to continue to do this so you know I don’t know I don’t want to turn away from me so far I just did you know make make a few more bucks this is something authentic money will come visit me what the future holds but big water ready to ship to them I hopefully before the month is out you know as long as I can keep something like that going is cool but like there’s no contracts or anything it’s just hey we like your stuff we won store want this many want these designs how much is it going to cost cool take your time you know you know it’s handmade that’s what we like and you know it’s been a great relationship so you know as long as I can build relationships like that I can find a big box thing and have some some swet shop in Japan making it anymore. Like that’s not that’s not the way everything is happening just ride in and if you don’t be a part of me for being like a perv but I was just imagining you making this beautiful outdoor adult Campground park with massive giant stumps from old clear cuts and make them into multi-person sex toy or G kind of platforms and you know people could just dance the night away under the moon is full moon Pagan rituals and all kinds of sushi a big a big project you know make it make a giant dicks that I asked you out of a tree and so you can be able to do something like that would be in orgies out there and shit is campfires like naked dancing and you don’t fucking aphrodisiacs and hallucinogenic to whatever the fuck I don’t know if I want to be in that party and it’s not really my scene but I can see them I had let me see a pole dance Festival kind of thing and it’s it’s equal to circumambulate in a very magical ritual pattern around a pole that is symbolica you know what the what we’re talking about here and just came to me is that you you know I would live by the first custom job that I am going to put on my bucket list to put on your bucket list is going to be the Shiva lingam the tantric yoga can do that if that’s they haven’t lost that to this day they haven’t lost that connection and they haven’t really hasn’t really been burning destroy to the extent that other cultures that I like worship you know it has been so that’s a whole and then they do the lingam Yoni together where this guy looks kind of like a saucer and Anna yeah that’s a whole nother sacred I know my audience would would love to have custom lingam Yoni cuz it’s part of which was part of the fertility statues it’s a huge factor for fertility ritual so I practiced it or is it stuff like that who you know one or something like that for an altar or whatnot so you know you to bring your spirituality bring your religion whatever it is and then get you something may I got no problem with any of that just no voodoo dolls snow is it safe to make the bowl because then what if we know people were not making as much love as I would hope that they’ll be making themselves look a bit well actually that that’s another question is it a semi I asked Vanessa about is like getting adult performers to us a webcam performers would be great too but just getting some exposure to that I’m sure it’ll it’ll happen eventually but I would love I would love to see this these products make a neuron impact in the adult film world Debbie really cool yeah yeah when I mean when I started out I actually have way more friends who were doing cam shows and stuff like that and so actually did send them a few things just got start I was sending them things and then they were a huge Splash with which is fine like I said I’m not trying to artificially grow my business or anything so I look at this as I go forward but yeah yeah just a lot of different it just depends on you know what what presents itself is providing the most utility at the time this is how I end up bringing that stuff out I just I love your attitude towards this is so refreshing and it’s it’s it gives me a lot of hope that making you know that the old what we are actually as human beings designed we are basically factories or we are there so we are I mean our bodies are designed to be very Adept at mechanical skilled long legs look at flint knapping and all of the Primitive skills and everything all of the Care and time that went into you don’t think that we would just use for a day and toss over the shoulder but the process the social process of making trouble making and this is a tool you know this is a this is a the most we’re so well designed for these these processes so to have it be something that we you know thank you so much for leaving with this example of making a decent living in the modern world with where you’re trying to turn work down and and doing what your body is designed to do that’s not usually a match you know everyday I wake up call you if I don’t want to do is like me I’m really grateful that I’m able to do this and have people respond so overwhelmingly positive way to it you know that there are a lot of people who do have great ideas on black great passion for things that they don’t end up getting the kind of distraction attention that I have so now this is wonderful man and like I said I’ve got all this work to do when I don’t sleep a whole lot anymore really weird hours and you know like three or four hours to get up and carve something father sleeve for it or whatever but I mean I’m driving it to do this if you can give so much to me to be able to do it so yeah I don’t hear your hundred fifty percent on that photo is this it it just wonderful that’s awesome well I couldn’t have asked for a better interview and discussion I’m really I’m so thrilled and I’m going to I’m going to try to stop myself from from magically manifesting you haven’t got a bigger workload set of these can get out there to more people faster you know I just have to be some I think maybe we’ll get an aid organization babe that’s where you can train people all over it feel vocational training and you know I don’t want to stay developing countries cuz I’m so against that that that whole concept but in a stasis places where is that could be the you know that the way to not sell out but scale but to see people yeah be a movement in a real eye movement of what you have you been yeah that then and maybe someday they’ll be a giant statue of you card that it would yeah we’re finished beautiful if you can restore the beauty and Glory of your appropriate healthy not shameful public sexual art in I mean it’s not that long since it’s been so you know horribly depressed and and frowned upon so yeah yeah somebody the other day but a fucking nipple get the fuck over yourselves it’s not that it’s supposed to be that way so no I wear what I do a lot of them people are proud to display if they want to display that like it’s a piece of artwork the production company for True Blood the show used to come on HBO and they had the scene in the final season it wasn’t just as it was an entire set they made for this character choose a vampire she had The Sex Dungeon Channel these wouldn’t dildos all over the place and so what they had done was a they just bought all these wooden dildos from all these different companies including mine and hasn’t been set dressing in there and so you know there’s supposed to be like a little like kind of Gonzo for four people I guess but it was also really cool to have all that stuff on display like as the artwork that it is cuz all these people are putting in you know hours of of time and you know Nativity and the skills at end of these things and it was just you just so cool to see us all on this way like that so I thought that was just such a cool thing for them to do they did their research on it to you which I was very impressed by healthy and totally am what is Silver Bullet that’s actually a Silver Bullet Vibrator 200l DIY Halloween line a sex toys already it’s right LOL alright work that is that is the people stuff than anything else you want to close with and we’ll call it a will-call today thank you if you want if you want to order something either from inventory or a custom please visit etsy.com shop for / lumberjill LC all one word you can follow me on Twitter at Sherwood a s h o u l d a w o o d a n on word I can find me on Instagram and we’re probably the most active socially and that’s lumberjill underscore Leisure crabs that’s pretty much it was a big ones Cool Math awesome well again and thank you so much I’m so glad that I feel blessed to have this this podcast platform so that I can just see something and then two seconds later you know reach out and then a couple days later we’re having a wonderful conversation and this is really beautiful so thank you so much and and I’m I’m I feel blessed as well so we’ll be in touch definitely 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Sacred Sexual Economics with Charles Eisenstein TPP129

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Charles Eisenstein PicIn this episode I’m joined by one of my favorite authors, Charles Eisenstein. After studying his books The Ascent of Humanity and Sacred Economics I’ve been deeply moved by the level of insight and analysis he provides.  As tantra works to re-weave sacred sexual-spiritual unity, Charles’ work has been re-weaving the material and sacred realms by deconstructing patriarchal stories of separation, and providing road maps for more holistic value exchange rooted in ancestral wisdom.

It was a pleasure to explore topics of sacred sexuality and sexual healing with him, as the “oldest profession on earth” has become one of the most exploitative and desacrilized.

He paints an empowering vision for a future of sacred sexual economics.  I was imbued with a compelling sense of awe, feeling a new flow of energy and hope that a globally integrated culture may well evolve to a high level of maturity.

Please connect with him at:
https://charleseisenstein.net/

About Charles:
https://charleseisenstein.net/about/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 129 I have the Exquisite pleasure of being joined by Charles eisenstein a very well-known prolific author I just finished sacred economics one of his Classics now and it’s really been a powerful resource in the last several years people have been really am using it as enlightening guide to re-engineering their local economies and being exposed to so many different Shadow problems and just things you wouldn’t consider if you didn’t do a deep exploration into these topics and then it’s really helped to support like I said a lot of them knew visioneering and new applications for how we can lift more beautifully on Earth together and I’m really just it’s all seeping into me now I’m really marinating in a lot of a lot of this material and there were brushes with some of the topics that I’m more focused on in this show which is the you know how we can rebuild and revivify the sacred feminine and work with economic and political systems to really facilitate the honorable and charitable Good Deeds of those Among Us who really are called to be healers in a more intimate way and that’s something that has been really distorted and commodified and corrupted and it really negative way but it does have a potential to become a sacred economic environment so that’s what I’m most excited about getting into with you in a bit Charles but please if you would spend as much time as you’d like to kind of fill us in on your personal story how you evolve into becoming this some very scholarly thinker and all these topics and Beyond colony and sexual healing and only have that dramatic or exciting a background really but I think what’s PS3 line for me got to Childhood is this abiding sense that there’s deep wrongness in the world that has been presented to me as normal go the story of the self the story of Life the story that tells us how to be human How To Be A Man Out of You women what a successful life books like what the nature of reality is what is what is Rio and normal like it just never seemed normal to me never seemed acceptable and it was I think a lot of children has this kind of almost like this deep loneliness and feeling of betrayal at having been cast into not quite the right world but it it doesn’t take clear form know maybe you’re sitting in the classroom filling out worksheets and beautiful day outside and is party that’s like I’m not supposed to be confined here doing this meaningless trivial work you know that it’s supposed to be more than this so you know I was no different than a lot of other children but I was fortunate enough to have that inner knowing that like I say that a more beautiful world is possible confirmed and then the internet that this isn’t right story isn’t right I had that confirmed through my father’s political influence he was somewhat radical and petitfee commercials and rail against the corporations and you know I read I read books like Silent Spring and 1984 and the people’s History of the United States and became confirmed in my rejection and Rebellion so I still didn’t know what was the origin of the wrongness but that became a lifelong Quest really that eventually led me to write the ascent of humanity which not to trivialize thesis but basically it says that all of the crisis of our civilization Springs from a story that we are telling ourselves mythology that runs our civilization that you could call separation that holds us as separate individuals in a world of other that holds Humanity separate from nature that elevates the control of the other the domination of all things the domination of the body the rising above nature into the realm of technology and spirit Center etc etc the conquest of The Flash all of these play out in different ways as the dissolution the dissolution of community the ruination of May are the oppression of one group to another group all of these are different ways that separation plays out so that’s that’s what got me this it seized me and wouldn’t let go and then you know coming then to a place where I trace the origins of Separation back and I guess I’m not really talking so much about my personal history anymore but Inseparable taking the roots of Separation see how deep they go brought me to a place where I saw the entire journey of Separation as part of a much larger process in which we can come back in to hold us and I guess to bring it back to the personal level that has echoed through my own life as I’ve sought to heal from the internalized story of Separation the wounds of Separation that visit anybody who’s grown up in a modern culture and so that’s what’s so it’s not only am not just like necessarily only a scholar reading books about it but I explore these things in my own life to some extent in some areas with more radicalism an edginess than others but yeah and I am so anyway that’s something of a background of humanity received and where where did it find audiences send in. I know I guess I could say couple things having completed it that I really appreciate that you drive from the work of John zerzan he’s actually a personal friend of mine from back in the day and he was one of the first influences on me to really help fill out the critique of various deep critiques of technology and yes and but then I also did feel that sense of the improper indictment of this original sin of symbolic thought and language and that you could really arbitrarily take that to bipedalism or in in your work you he talked about how it could be you know even a deeper kind of Poker jab a little bit to see if they could be if you could really make that argument for any any part of that process of Separation but there’s so many valuable insights and critiques that he has brought to the world and so I just want to say thank you for presiding him of technology and civilization that is like seriously sit right with me because it basically names this journey as a gigantic mistake and development of Beauty has come from language from the cracks of the human hand and mind and I believe that these gifts that humans have are here for a reason that nature doesn’t make mistakes that doesn’t species that is just think that we are nature’s big mistake is just as much a kind of human exceptionalism as to think that we are here to be the Lords and masters of nature so I think it is that we are a species still in adolescence where we are playing with the gifts of hand in mind but we haven’t turned them yet tour their true purpose as a mass like maybe maybe indigenous cultures did that and then kind of prefigured the mass organism that we are wishing to become but as a civilization we have not yet discovered it correct application of our gifts contributing member of the tribe listen to become full participants in the tribe of all life on Earth and not mature species and I think we’re going through that initiation right now through the converging crises that the story of Separation has generated inconceivably mysterious fast process and and to just like dismiss it all as a gigantic mistake like that’s a beauty and complexity of what humans have created literature and all of Technology a symphony orchestra of the Grand Central Station you know our Collective will and intention toward Beauty tord tordid contributing to the evolution of Life as a totality we would still have technology but it would be motivated very different so that’s like anyway that yeah that’s we could go there or we could go somewhere else kind of builds up to where now we’re getting into this we have this Burning since almost all the time that most of the people that I interact with even in the most extreme radical shamanic communities or new age or permaculture even and the have a sort of a blind maybe techno optimism or just a lack of really feeling that that chunk of critique that that we both appreciate in value and then so there’s this when that’s there there’s a real holness every I really feel the clicking sensitive of wholeness has the wisdom that is a treachery here and we have to I think permaculture really does well to to just understand that progress is inevitable but if you just convert the variables of what you’re building with the materials of what you’re playing with in the sandbox of reality then you can actually be a net-positive on ecology and you can be producing more life and you destroy and that’s really so do you want to just kind of give a overview of sacred economics is sort of him or is it kind of would you say more zoomed in two solutions after a sense of humanity from transitioning to that by saying that need a problem isn’t technology per se but how we apply it and what we think it’s useful for you to talk about technology they are referring to certain kinds of technology that are based on quantification and that aim to exercise very precise control on material reality but there are other modes of technology that aren’t about multiplication and control. My debt that are applicable or useful for things that conventional technology is it and I’m talking about Technologies of the earth of human human energetic field of the non-quantifiable Realms that you might call spiritual like these have gotten valued and even in the story of Separation dismiss is not even being real cuz he can’t measure its not real but I know that your audience is a lot of people who are working with these Technologies especially for the purposes of healing and the development of Consciousness and when you are working with something that is fundamentally unmeasurable or difficult to quantify and it becomes therefore difficult to turn into a commodity and to fix a price for it because money is a form of measure and it works well for the things that can be standardized and Quantified like Commodities so if you’re dealing with something that is qualitative and I will say maybe sacred then it’s really hard to put a price on it doesn’t fit into the economic system that comes along with the rest of the story of Separation that turns the world into an object really that’s one of the main manifestations of Separation to turning up the world into the object and ultimately turning other living beings and objects turn women into objects and ultimately turning men into objects to the conversion of human beings into we could be a sex object consumer taxpayer someone you Market to like that is what economy of separation almost forces us into so if you are doing something that is not about converting nature or relationship into a quantifiable product if you were doing something that is sacred to you it’s going to be difficult to fit into the existing economic Matrix and so one of the motivations behind the book sacred economics is basically what what do we do about that or what do we do on a personal level Academy navigate living in a monetized system where it’s all about the money while doing something at sacred to us and then the second question is how do we change the system what might a system look like that no longer forces us to make these compromises or forces us to choose between doing what we love and doing what it takes to survive this is anyone doing sacred work not not everybody but almost everybody doing sacred work that is motivated by Shilling which is the opposite of converting the world into money is going to run into this problem almost everybody so one thing that comes up as a writer I’m doing this out of a desire to serve the unfolding of the dream of the Earth so should I do whether I’m writing or in a speaking working with people in groups or whatever it’s sacred to me and that means that it’s just seems ridiculous to put a price on it because any price is simultaneously too much and too little I don’t want to be you can’t have this amount of money for any amount is too much but on the other hand any amount has to Google because it’s reducing something infinite to something finally it’s saying it’s only worth whatever amount of money and for me is infinitely precious and sacred and it’s almost an insult to put a price on it and and so one way that I navigate that is to do as much as possible through gift which is welcoming of return gifts but doesn’t put a price on it so if you come to my retreat then you know it’ll be surprised what feels right to you what’s a lined with your sense of equity your sense of rightness your financial means your sense of value in gratitude like what feels call shawana in contacts in an economic context that has programmed us always be looking out for the best deal always watching out to be to not be taken advantage of us in competition and distrust with each other is no easy formula to overcome those circumstances I totally agree and thank you for doing this work and also leading by example and living the the dream and being the change you want to see in the world that’s really inspiring and I guess I’ll just say that I’m probably more than I even have known but just the ambience of stirring of alternative options that you’ve been helping to be a part of fan in the last few years as it’s kind of thumb percolated through alternative communities in some but I guess some of the the alternative economic local systems have been in place for quite a while but they I guess it been since December group popularized or at least brought into more of the perception of a wider audience thinks that you’re working and I say now I’m operating on it or Showtime Banking and then even times where if a client is doing well financially then I will honor honor you no honor System expect to tell contribute to me financially if I’m more need financially but then if there’s do you know bottleneck on either side then we can just sort of dynamically reorient to to what’s available based on cycles of abundance that are you know sometimes unpredictable bit with enough of that going on you can kind of offset things and not have one-size-fits-all standardized by now or forever be left out you know fear of missing out marketing strategies and all these things that kind of like you said would limit access so I think it’s just a little bit of creativity and open heartedness can go a long way and I’ve seen wonders achieved and it’s really that pay it forward gift economy thing where you just don’t know how karmic banking or karmic capital is going to compound in a good way if you do things right so I’m love I’m a Believer and all that so yeah I went went there was a specifically one point where I I know I know that you brushed against the the sexual Arts as a form of them forever more sacred industry so now I’m transitioning into this the world’s oldest profession as its assets often called so we have this kiss in the country Community there is sort of a myth of the noble prostitute kind of think it’s interesting because a lot of us hold in our imagination that there was this the sort of golden age of the temple priests wear all those the men were coming and humility and it was to just bow down to their Muse and maybe they might get some action if they were really charming and made some offerings to the temple that were just sort of the best that they could provide based on their you know whether they’re Warrior or farmer or whatever it is that they was like a the public library is of sexual encounters and experience and it was actually something where if you were in a marriage and you were sort of from sub-standard and the quality of your performance than you will be you will be prompted by your your beloved to go and get some training with the Temple priestesses and so it sounds like the perfect world everybody wins and the people who were born to serve in that way they’re really facilitated and you know there’s more scholarship I say needs to be done to kind of confirm and really fill out of that that dream or that fantasy of the past that I believe there are found some documentation that I really supports that and then a lot of people now or through the Festival movement and and a lot of different sort of time sheikah institutes in schools and training centers and Retreats really anchoring in at least the vision of that which it sounds beautiful to me and I I really hope that it wasn’t just corrupt Kings and Warlords who were basically running big institutionalize brought those cuz they’re set as the patriarchy takes over you know it really took some of these more village-level shamanic service networks and then kind of built-in high-level Monumental architecture around it and it was a you know Caligula I think was the first one to actually officially state recognized prostitution with registration so they had their thirst names for effectively on the books you know with the treasurer’s and what not and it was Pompeii was a big think so I am aware of some of the historical narratives about the Temple of the Sacred priestesses the sacred prostitutes the goddess temples and so forth and for me the question actually isn’t necessarily is that factually correct or not but what future does it serve to hold those nervous because these histories can also be like kind of subconsciously drawing from a potential future that actually exists maybe outside of linear time but that that exists in some archetypal ROM and then then it’s like history maybe it was a world of art or something running a gigantic prostitution thing but but in that there was also a whisper of a sacred possibility that draws from a translinear archetype that can also be reached through linear time if we oriented toward that and allow it to be our compass point and take in its reality and then buy it. We can create this future that is projecting as members in the past in the future friends are going to be wants to construct The Narrative that serves what does society wants to become and you’re not so sure of course many people today who are also tapping into that archetype and doing this but also can come came to mind it text Omar current perspective we assumed we take for granted things that are actually just the artifact of our story in our system and one of those is the scarcity of sex so you had to take for granted that yeah the men and they’re going to love to go to the to the temples because then you’re going to get a matriarchal society where women were not own and not sexually sequestered into marriages but we are sexually free and in their societies sex might not work in a scarce commodity so the motivation of men wouldn’t be driven by this omnipresent insecurity in scarcity where my woman is just for me I won’t share her because less for me and another guy might come and take her away so I’m in competition with everybody else and how I’m now I get to go to the temple may not have been the circumstances that may have been much more of what you said like to pleasure to the Gateway. The woman can provide to these Transcendent or imminent Realms of unity Consciousness ecstatic Union through pleasure and and I need training in this you know and there’s these experts that can help me become a a d Define Erotic Impulse to experience Unity if you take that as a context whether it’s past or future that’s a whole different ball game and it’s no longer about you know about men exploiting women and and it’s kind of illicit you know I’m getting some on the side I got to pay for it because women have the goods scarcity and it’s called pussy and they’re going to give it to me if I give him enough money or after some other compensation like Economic Security or at least a phone call the next morning or whatever is not reality story yeah yeah yeah just as you speaking and all of these images are coming together and just imagining the the weary worn-down surf you don’t under the warrior and all of the different when you think about that that’s just the Metropolitan pantheistic cross cultural environment of the time of Caligula and just all of these people wear sexual hospitality is commodified like everything else because everybody is in his is part of the cow is just part of Commerce and there’s no organic real space everything when everything’s made it out in that in that way then it’s just inevitable just like I said I could turn style everything is is metered out so what from the end of thank you so much for bringing in that very empowering and liberating kind of grand scheme of things scope of not having to prove that it was the the truth of the past but it really is what were we were you going for in also think about how the modern pop stars the pinks and Lady Gaga’s they’re actually embodying the diva would literally more than they probably even know but they’re Wheeling magical power and they have the power to transform every one’s Consciousness really we’re all wrapped around the fingers of these these Superstars and it’s just what what color of magic perhaps are they teaching a steep to practice but what do you feel are some just in your survey of some of the Practical things on the ground I guess are you observing or witnessing Transformations any sectors thanks to some of your work or at least some of the trends that you’re you’re studying in your work well it’s hard to say what it is because of my work and what isn’t because stop by right is part of a Aveo upwelling Consciousness that would be happening whether or not I was writing about it so did I see something that did it just naturally occurring to people that wow what I’m doing doesn’t fit into the economic system and I’ve got to try something else so I do see people trying something else and very often not succeeding according to any any rational metric because this is New Territory for us in the dominant culture and we don’t really have a map we don’t have a recipe for how to do show people try all kinds of stuff you know trades or sliding scales where you choose the price or try to find you no sponsorship I got them to put a lot of explaining myself and and then when forming communities around this work where within the community money isn’t used a we support each other and take care of each other in all of the different ways that are available to us with our diversity of gifts in the community I’m really at what we’re watching said one way to look at it is get the most important practices to rebuild community but we don’t even necessarily know what that is but we all have a we all I’m being very generalized here but I often hear people articulate a yearning for Community to undo the narrow containers of the separate self and let in more people not just your lover not just your family you know not just your blood relatives but open it up a bit more to the circle of the gift operate on a on a gift economy you don’t usually charge your wife for doing the dishes or something like that in traditional settings and circle of gift was a lot bigger and therefore the circle of self was a lot bigger because if you are in a gift relationship with people and their well-being is your well-being and their suffering is your suffering even in Practical terms cuz they’ll have less to give they won’t be able to contribute to your well-being everybody is living a lifestyle we are contributing to each other’s well-being so to rebuild that is Canada meta-level of so much of the more surface layer work that word that we are attracted to do it and I think you know sexual healing and sexual expression is definitely part of that it doesn’t want to be reduced to something that you pay for it once I don’t want to trivialize the the necessity for establishing certain kinds of boundaries I don’t know I guess I’m have questions about that to like because love naturally blossoms when you’re really in it with somebody and is that what we want to put a boundary across so I know that that’s gets to be very complicated issue but ultimately it this this movement is about reuniting coming together again and dissolving not once but dissolving as appropriate and as called as called from us and through US dissolving the barriers of Separation beautiful will if you don’t mind if you don’t mind doing a little bit of faith journeying into a bit of the Shadow which would be the opposite of sacred economics and sort of them without dwelling too too deeply on it if if you don’t mind I don’t want to do the splits I feel like to to put even more context and shed more light it’s it’s good to look at some of the shadow of of the the adult industry and and the the effects of not having the village based sort of them or at least that the ethics of group values going on in circulating gift economy are you okay with it a little bit of that okay so something that that I feel as a selling point for lack of a better word is V the worst way to put it but a selling point for a talking point rather than maybe four people who were still very conservative around these these issues in these topics and they don’t believe that premarital or extramarital contact of any kind including I contact this is acceptable it’s actually a deadly sin when I in in conversation with people that level of conservatism I go right to some of the news headlines and say remember that guy Elliot Rodger I believe his name was and he was a young college student who had been who was a virgin and he decided to go on a kill crazy Rampage at the University California Santa Barbara campus I believe is what it was and and he just in a car he is premeditated he put out a YouTube video world like a hundred plus page Manifesto and it was this extremely if you will demonic possessed but very astute and very well-thought-out of course it’s all in the car pics of a narcissist with someone who had become a sociopathic narcissist but he had some insights to share with Humanity which cannot be overlooked and only by marginalizing him as a psychopath do we get to not take seriously what he was expressing which was this murderous sexual frustration that would have had in a more perfect world a world with goddess temples where initiation rites occurred for young people on this is something they’re doing and tomorrow which we can talk about as sort of a template for some solutions but it begs the question that if this young man had had sacred economic opportunities he was rich he was the son of a movie somebody in the film industry and in head just had a movie to come out and what is like there’s no reason for this kid driving around kid a young man he’s driving around this super fancy car and he had all the privilege in the world who is a fine-looking young man not to that should be a Criterion by any means to judge someone sexual access but he was still is I guess socially awkward he wasn’t able to connect enough to get himself quote lay don’t know if that was his word but that’s how you know his locker room but he’s probably would have thought about it but just you know it’s a long story short the the need it’s not just hippies that want to be polyamorous that can’t get disciplined enough to sit down at a day job that are trying to talk about building goddess temples you know it’s like the families of the slain in that Massacre should have been the ones bailing out Tracy Elise who ran the Phoenix goddess Temple donation-based Sexual Healing services in Arizona when she was brought down by operation goddess Temple a six-month undercover investigation where the undercover cops at come in there and cowboy boots and say hey I want to put my cock in your vagina and try to entrap them you know that’s what we’re doing to limit the healing potential of these goddesses and then on the other the shadow of a spectrum is all the Predators all the child sexual abusers all the rapists who would have been really massaged into Divinity by these sex workers who were busted for conspiracy if they give each other tips on food to avoid that level of breaking them legally disallowing women who are streetwalkers to even include in any way for their own safety it becomes double felony charges for you know having any communication with each other so that’s just what in rages me a time deep in the trenches of this movement in an industry and I just wondered what your thoughts are on you know the grotesque side effect of commodification and desecrated economic and if you have any leverage points or thoughts I’m just waking people up by putting some of these headlines in her face why are people shooting each other school shootings all the stuff is it a side-by-side effective are now the persecution of the Sacred it’s happens in every Realm end and I think that this idea that you’re playing with that frustrated Sexual Energy gets channeled into violence is I think it’s undeniable and not relating with women and holding their they’re holding it holding it holding a holding it’s like trying to hold a pressure cooker and an energy is building up in the Siemens building out and then it like it pops out somewhere and steam pops out somewhere else and if you hold it out if you hold it successfully enough in one explodes that’s see that’s what happens when you try to suppress infinite force anti-terrorism infinit force it comes out one way or another and and you mustn’t Tamara like they have a whole political philosophy there that basically says that war and violence comes through frustrated sexuality and they they they use the metaphor of rain and soil and end like that young energy of the rain if there’s not receptive soil soak it up and it becomes a flood it becomes destructive and so how do you create for tile receptive soil well as to be willing soil I have to have ecosystem and we don’t have that we have a Barren landscape that has been damaged repeatedly and it’s you know these men and women in our society it’s going to take I think a long time Generations after generations of healing Chipman do the trauma that is normal the acute trauma I mean something I don’t know what is a third of all children suffer abuse in. Just just go away so we have to understand that the men and women who are seeking Sexual Healing are coming from play some great trauma and we’re going to have I don’t know how to do it either I don’t know how it how to accommodate all that and especially in a system that is in a way rightly threatened by the prospect of sexual Liberation and sexual healing and I say why they threatened in the sense that it would mean the end of society as we know it would mean the end of status quote with the status quo with mean the end of the war machine they mean the end of the crashing of one class by another Nation Under the most fundamental template for dehumanization that is thousands of years older than racism is is misogyny is patriarchy is the immunization of women that’s the template and then gets applied in the form of racism that gets applied in the form of xenophobia are all kinds of bigotry but that’s where it began yeah just yeah well well I’ve got chills thank you so much I’m really this is exactly the the depths of promotion I wanted to achieve with this conversation and and I’m glad that you brought it into Focus around the turn patriarchy and I’m not at all hesitant to use that word because I studied anthropology and archaeology of it and I kind of feel like in that pure anarcho-primitivism two ends not not that everyone not to project onto you or anyone else but it’s that understanding that there was a a sleight of hand and a muscular maneuver to crush the feminine when it came to Agriculture and that in most cases it was a male-dominated shift that happened so it’s easy to know some people want to kind of say hey let’s not you know make binaries and let’s not do you know indict the masculine Maslow needs healing too and I feel that I agree with that and some people would say it’s a partnership vs. Dominator. I will need to look at and that is true as well but I also think that you need to the men have some tears to shed to to kitchen and to pay some some debts I believe to the to the earth into the feminine so what better way than to put down the swords in the axes and start to pick up shovels and start planting the Garden of Eden if only the Bible had that is the last line and let’s replant the Garden of Eden cuz it wants us to return I don’t think there’s a reason to be ashamed of ourselves as men men suffer as much maybe in patriarchy as women do it doesn’t it’s not good for the men either unless you think that that constant insecurity and competition and cut off from motion and and distance from the feminine Wellspring of life in divinity’s a good thing it’s it’s Petrakis terrible from them even get less sex in picture I could weigh less and patriarchy as a system in as an internalized system is because I want to live a good life I want to be happy want to be free I don’t want to be always insecure that I’m going to become a loser when my status object falls in love with somebody else all right are you what what level of adventurist awareness do you have of the bonobo or bondable studies that have kind of been you know I’m never had sex at dawn and stuff okay. Yeah that’s that’s give us a glimpse into its one lens on on human nature and then you can look at egalitarian primates for another glimpse of human nature and and look at the animal world I think there are many many possibilities but you feeling too much to genetics and nature as some justifications or as prescriptions for what Society should look like because how are genes and expression of our genes can change according to the social atmosphere so we’re not even even though I don’t like the conclusions that are drawn from a no-go studies I’m a little weary of putting too much on to that and advocating our sovereignty as be choosers of the kind of society we want to live in the kind of world you want to live in Ray has probably more helpful to see it just like the other ethnographies insects it down just as a counter reference point to as possible or what what are some things about him missing out on 7th at one of the things that I feel is most destructive about studies the bonobo is so we have this fear of matriarchy this phobia that it would look like a mirror image of just the tyrants the Amazons are some some kind of distorted fantasy of authoritarian matriarchy but what what is demonstrated so beautifully in their societies pretty much universally is his lack of rape lack of violence violence or conflict being preempted by sexual activity in that there’s this it seems like they’re almost like the the female Sisterhood bonds are so well-formed that they end up sort of making little bonsai trees out of the male egos so that their best Captain service and if they going to stay out of this probably oversimplifying but it’s it’s a if the power dynamics are are such that it behooves a man to want to mail to go out and do something of service be entertaining go get some bananas bring them back and make an offering without sex spectations maybe you’ll get lucky and it all goes to sort of say that it if we did with permaculture create such an abundant ecology to live within then that that scarcity wood would dissolve in and went to the mountains and then we could just share freely and there would be a bit of healthy competition but it would bring out the best in people and they would cooperate to get group favors that guess you could say well yeah definitely make sure he is not patriarchy with women instead of men in the power positions it looks very different and I don’t really even think we know what it would look like what condition to the structure not the content of patriarchy which has many options of power but the structure on the patriarchy dominating no you have a religion that we we don’t have the conceptual vocabulary or the exponential vocabulary to even know what make sure he would look like and we can draw maybe though from indigenous cultures that still have matriarchal elements to them or some of my you can be fully mature rare one of my friends is speaks really only about this she’s a woman and she kind of paints a picture of like the men yeah they’re really valued for male qualities that are you know in some within 2 to a greater or lesser extent but that are these male qualities of of linearity rationality okay let’s get this thing done you know that’s what’s let’s focus on the task and the goal that kind of stuff like in a Mich Ronco cultural traits are valued but it’s understood that men need help to know what to apply those things to you that the men rely on so that they know where to exercise their masculine mini your creative abilities and when that gets disconnected from the feminine Source all kinds of hack and shoes and those qualities get you no turns toward you know hedge fund and and things that are disconnected with a starting life so make sure I might be something where where the what is that where did where there are structures to constantly aground the human capacities of of manipulation of of amazing design onto the world check the ground those in the service all life yeah I’m kind of looking forward to it but something like that you know what it would look like it’s so foreign to what Society is right now but for me to definitely would include no fear of of Economic Security is there taking care of my community we don’t have we live in a world today of artificial scarcity there’s already even without Global permaculture system there’s already more food is wasted every day then would take to feed all the world to see artificial scarcity of of everything that we have artificial scarcity of beauty New York City and I got to be almost all the buildings are ugly but what after five thousand years can we do better than that artificial scarcity of of play artificial scarcity of intimacy of love sex. The parts you know why are so many people so hungry for for intimacy but you’re sorry I made a list once upon a time I have to add one thing which is the who choose horrible conspiracy idea was it to let to make one seater bathtubs I mean isn’t that the Cry of separation LOL I have the potential to live in such a beautiful world and it’s just really a shift in perception away absolutely well we’re about an hour here so I just want to say that again this really melted my heart and and stimulated my mind and this is really validating I said I could say system it’s a gift that you’ve been on the show and you’ve been able to let me have air out some Rants and get a little bit of a sounding board and feedback in and just validation and I believe this will be hopefully something that can steer or stear folks towards your work and towards this greater what you’re pointing towards your your kind of you know in a way a messenger of really guiding people into a lifestyle of of deconstructing these false paradigms that we’re stuck in and it really are very elegantly and beautifully transcended with a little bit of creativity in a little bit just the awareness that these other possibilities are really really everywhere we can be drawn from the past or the future so you know what that said I just want to last thing I want to say is that something Tracy at least in part it on me before she was tried and then went to prison is that to you know this bit of wisdom that when the women are happy the men will get more sex and so if we can figure that out and then listening I think it’ll it’ll all just quickly and easily slip into a more beautiful economic reality around that that notion so that’s my final thought and if you want to share any final thoughts and certainly how people can access all of your great works and upcoming events and all that good stuff I’m just jealous of feeling grateful for the conversation and or the work that you’re doing that is really important and not very celebrated so thank you for doing that and as for my working self hello thank you to my website. So is it is just Charles eisenstein. Calm cool and then and then please definitely anyone listening SoundCloud is the great repository for your work so you can just digest all the great works and beautiful voices and also audible is with us on your videos short films call when you have any plans or anything exciting coming up people should be staying tuned for pretty much nothing comes up you know I don’t really have much schedule for 2018 until maybe the book comes out in September and then I’ll be here probably speaking more are you able to to give us any of the adjust of what two subjects are working on Earth just hard to talk about it because if I say what it’s about you think I know it but it’s what I’m saying and it’s so different from what what is being said that it’s on climate change a very good title loans I’m not sure I want to see the title yet but it’s it’s basically it’s a very very different narrative cool well I can’t wait yeah I’m sure it’s going to be awesome cool well then I guess we will just call it a show for now and hopefully yes anytime we can resume and then also just to kind of kick it off for a maybe a follow-up eventually is it a we definitely got deep into the into this topic this time around but the cryptocurrency and distributed Ledger technology blockchain technology and how that is really pushing out some of the prophetic that you shared about peer-to-peer open source technology development as an expression of gift economies sacred economics and all that would be cool to Circle back to that at some point in the future and then also you have so wouldn’t know I’ll be keeping an eye out for your book and maybe we can get you on around that time when you’re doing the marketing for that okay sounds good cool alright Charles thank you again so much have a great rest of your day I take care www.entrepreneur.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is the seeming and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been a tantra Punk. 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Psychedelic Goddess Worship the White Paper TPP124

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In this episode I share a piece I wrote that serves as a sort of guerrilla psychedelic research white paper. It is the most direct and concise articulation of my thesis:

  1. Demons are invisible to the naked eye but exist as energetic parasites lurking all around us at all times
  2. They are attracted by energy that’s released during sex, aggression, intimidation, fear, etc.
  3. They enter into cracks in the protective shield of our auric field and chakra system caused by abuse, trauma, neglect, lack of adequate love, negative thought patterns, etc.
  4. Acts of sexual manipulation, abuse, exploitation, and rape create opportunities for them to spread and infect souls, virgin souls are a delicacy for them
  5. With varying degrees of conscious awareness from relatively benign ignorance, to sinister intentionality: sexual predators are being possessed by demonic entities
  6. Surgical shamanic exorcism must be performed to remove them
  7. In perpetrators with full blown infections, their demons have spread and gotten control of their nervous system
  8. Victims have incubating infections that if disinfected, purified, and healed before they spread into the nervous system, can prevent neurosis and sexual pathology
  9. Surgical shamanic exorcism when combined with certain psychedelic plant medicines, ceremonial ritual allows for the patient and/or shaman to see the infectious parasitic organisms as if with x-ray vision
  10. Goddess-centered sacred sexual healing arts such as Tantra when applied in conjunction with psychedelic shamanic exorcism produces a positive synergistic effect whereby an erotic exorcism can be performed
  11. Most traditional psychedelic shamanic healing ceremonies are inaccessible financially and geographically by the average American
  12. Most Tantric “Dakas” (male sexual healers) and “Dakinis” (female sexual healers) are inaccessible financially by the average American
  13. A “poor man’s” do-it-yourself-or-with-partners home-based procedure can be quickly, easily, and affordably trained for mass application with minimal risks and mild if any drug side-effects

Click here to download the pdf

Partimony the Tantric Re-Birthday TPP121

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In this episode I feature a recent spoken word piece I recorded to document a peak erotic experience in the form of a tantradelic birthday party/ceremony that was organized for a dear beloved priestess. I introduce the piece with commentary that provides some background and offers a greater context for its political-ideological significance.

Sexual Healing for Sexual Healers with Reverend Goddess Charmaine TPP118

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In this episode I have the pleasure and honor of exploring the deep and profound insights and experience of Reverend Goddess Charmaine of http://thesensuousmystic.com/. I was turned on to her work several years ago by a dear friend and while catching up on her online radio show archives I discovered that she boldly and bravely confronts the shadow of sexuality. It was a breath of fresh air to hear her empowered voice of sexual trauma survival and healing. I’m very grateful that she blessed my podcast by telling her personal story and sharing strength and solidarity with me as wounded healers who are ceaselessly healing.

Here are links mentioned in the show:

Spirits Entities and Demons ~ The Evil Side of SEX!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-sensuous-mystic/2015/02/05/spirits-entities-and-demons-the-evil-side-of-sex

Parasites: Sexual & Spiritual
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-sensuous-mystic/2016/06/30/parasites-sexual-spiritual

The Butterfly Goddess (Laurie Handlers) shares erotic enlightenment and more!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-sensuous-mystic/2014/12/18/the-butterfly-goddess-laurie-handlers-shares-erotic-enlightenment-and-more

Please visit her website at: http://thesensuousmystic.com/

About Reverend Goddess Charmaine:

Reverend Goddess Charmaine was ordained by the New Seminary, a school of interfaith theology in New York City. She is a trained Reiki Master, Crystal Reiki Master, certified hypnotherapist, trained aromatherapist, and tantric energy specialist. She primarily focuses her energy work through Shamanism, trained by Kenneth Ray Stubbs through the Path of the Sexual Shaman all levels.

She has led workshops in the tri-state area since 1992, and is continually increasing her work as a facilitator of personal empowerment through her workshops such as chakra intensives, Goddess Initiations, Second Sunday and Clothing Optional (Naked Church) Services, energetic Merge Ceremonies, and Tarot Readings online, Spirit and Erotic Spirit Circles and various others that continue to support empowerment and erotic enlightenment for all. Online and In Person.

Rev. Goddess has written two books, The Sensuous Mystic ~ Uniting Sex and Spirit and The Goddess Scrolls ~ Sacred Erotic Tales that inspire and enlighten along with her ongoing radio blogtalk show The Sensuous Mystic airing live most Wednesday nights at 8pm EST.

In July, 2000, in a primitive and intense ritual, she was initiated into Goddess-hood. From this ceremony, she realized that she’d been called to bring forth the unification of Sex and Spirit.

Her unique methods center on our natural ability to evolve by healing ourselves and others. With her guidance and assistance, one is lead through a series of letting-go processes. These experiences enable one to work through and leave behind a lifetime of fears and paralyzing self-doubt, to attain the position of strength and power that is rightfully their own within their Holy Bodies.

Goddess Blessings

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin I love your beloved’s welcome to Township on podcast episode number 118 I’m with Reverend goddess Charmaine the sensuous Mystic and I have been a fan of her radio show podcast offerings which are really outstanding in the the whole movement and field and Industry of sacred sexuality and spirituality and all this without their I really feel the most outstanding gift is is the way that you have really brought the the experience of a passionate oration you know the the passion of a minister or preacher freeze Priestess that that power of transmission and and really using very erotic language and very very empowered erotic language very graphic heretic language in the spirit and with the passion and intensity and tonality of the Sacred oration tradition so it’s it’s such a treat and such a blessing and a gift and and so invigorating and in nice just to let people catches you know we’re still we’re still kind of embarrassed and shy to talk about genitalia and so you really taking it to a high level of Mastery and I super appreciate that and that’s just the tip of the iceberg because there’s so much depth and wisdom that you have to share from shamanic trainings and traditions and yeah I can’t even begin to to really give you a proper introduction so with that said fleas Reverend goddess Charmaine would you like to tell us about your personal life path and what you’re offering and and what it is that you do hahaha thank you everyone here and you know why you doing this work and I like you know ordained since 96 and initiated in 2000 and was you know walking this path long before then and all kinds of demonic and healthy ways it so my mom said Mimi silly people love you in and I don’t even know what does a blessing to get that kind of respecting your mother if you know about my work I said to her I said mom was so fat that back in the day of course I’d become the hill of course going on in my life and sexually as a young person I thought God didn’t love me that people didn’t like me why and as you step into that kind of place somewhere in there you know that voice or will inside that is always coming inside of me I am goddess of this land I am telling you it really really was speaking when I was very young I mean 16 years old I was telling me you know goddess goddess goddess this is what’s going to happen on my spiritual energy was always open to trying to just survive and drive through life but that’s the way I can because I was desperately in need of healing growth and I knew that I didn’t deserve the bad things like that wasn’t my past because it made everything worse and when I started to learn how to pray for myself and to bring goddess alive inside of me everything I always gets better keep it up until this moment is sharing myself with you so you know it was very important for me to heal and grow and I told my mom that I had to be combined to know that I matter and see the blessings that we can have get back into the world is to be there for The Temper sent and whoever it is my name is my message and the impact in the way that I share it got His blessings because that’s what I’m here for and also have to be every day to be able to stay or sometimes I don’t want to be there for myself when I need to when I teach her the one about self-love but if I know I’m going to be here with you then I’m going to be there with others it makes me responsible for myself and then sometimes I’m doing myself love practice for myself most of the time that’s really at you know that when I was doing it so do I love I love your language I think it’s my favorite of all articulations of species I mean it’s like I said these people just tiptoeing around certain words and and you could so liberating cuz you push you push the envelope forward in such a way that you know it’s it’s I’m almost I’m almost I feel like I’m a lightweight her I’m a teetotaler something but I got to step up you know I got to step up and speak with more on this test oh yeah your inspiration for sure and so do you want to talk a bit about some maybe some of the the highlights of your your career path and the there’s a sort of Meandering senior you know the different trainings you’ve done in the different kind of scientist Milestones on the journey cuz that that was a beautiful kind of priming I’m so grateful for and it may be some way to bring everyone into really connecting with me and connected to call life is I have a way of interpreting scripture and I called it to be to be a universal lover and I’ve always been drawn to a spiritual path and I’ve been invited to different types of ceremonies Oh sushi around in my own body and then like this like baby this pussy Power of Words language prayers that I used to hear my prayers merge with other people were at ceremony and to know that those prayers at the way the king as if they were channel 3 me is something something from being a smoking person’s ceremony of some of the face or just being out in nature of just sitting in front of my own altar so many so many people live in by the prayers that I stay over and over again and this is this is happened ever since I was initiated 2005 been able to write these prayers and I mean my books are written about Star Wars full moon sex Magik ceremonies I’ve done and I have prayers if it’s okay can I guy. Everyone likes on YouTube the creative spark of life Monopoly Bonnie I always say that to really go into the high fibration is like a pussy March without heart or that hard words with your heart in that space. and be one with all life and so I’m going to say this holy body prayer the tension that I wrote in 2000 and this one of the prayers that’s always said and my services Second Sunday services and clothing optional services I am beautiful and healthy my body has a glow that shines in my face is Angeles I smile on my face even more in my eyes sparkle to whatever and whomever I choose to see miss my Sofia playlist so they keep me able to go out to eat thank you give me chills and I have several prayers that I’ve written in my stories that have written that it really supported me and believe help develop me to teach me about my life as a wife as a mother’s friend and then and all of that since I work you know the way that I share my cell phone that’s really like my tithing you know and you know we are to also given without any shops in Beatrice with people and to write my books and people pay for it and that’s amazing thing to really be in your passion into Live Your Life Style the way you want me to the Nexus of a part of speech of because when you get healing from it is really so we’re expecting always beautiful TV show my real self so I think most benefit beautiful I love that destiny enjoying the ability to distribute energy and transmission across these networks I think it’s definitely a by design that there’s a assembling Spirit behind this wave of connecting to the to the web so if I can zoom into some earlier chapters new weirdest sex surrogate right in a very prominent role in the history of that that field is that correct can you tell ya that’s very interesting can you can you go into that that’s a fair bit and mixed can help us understand what that was like Jersey you know what’s the news New York City and I was explaining why don’t you just come in for an interview and you don’t have any what do you say that I don’t know what am I going to have a reception I need a receptionist job has already been studying in my feeling so I wasn’t thinking about this job as a contra opportunity looking for a job out of New Jersey but she hired me as a receptionist so you don’t start working within the first week I told my boyfriend because she’s but still you know okay did someone walk to the office that needs help to therapy and Pharmacy and then she comes out and she says she threw me into this room she told me how to conduct a 30-minute session completely changed everything from this first session I was off the desk within a month and had a full schedule every day and it was amazing because the two women that was so they gave me their charts is a read-through or try to catch up with you know when to do this when the husband and I have to go to the gym Sex Therapy and doing surrogacy work other than touching his whole body relationship relationship and after that I couldn’t go back I had to continue learning more and more about being a legacy to action Community counselor for the people because I start you really lost so much that I was more valuable outside of the surrogacy room and counseling with the client right there as we became alternative we started studying Tantra as a mode other than therapy and then the outside so really being asserted in a crime away a straight for a way to bring it to Alternative therapy and healing in this way really was the best thing that could happen for a woman that is stuck in speaker. Because I maybe that’s why I’m so so relaxed thinking about pussy you’ll need to know so I can just go to get real about what’s going on in our bodies and what’s going on in Las Cruces to the frequency that we’re dealing with because sometimes we let that chili that its first interstate transfer back to the old program you know that’s when you really have long-term into the way that we were also way I grew as being a surrogate to becoming a counselor to become a Healer that was all so amazing to me cuz it showed me my ongoing curls because of the ability I have to interpret scripture is I figure out my Universal way to apply it into the relationship is going on with you with the center for six and a half years and then it transported to my Ministry that is so cool yeah that is a very very experienced and you also had some some run-ins with the law by one point right 2007 ion you know I didn’t realize that this is something on and I didn’t think when I move into this neighborhood that was predominantly white and I was renting this house on the Block single woman in this house and in the neighbors started paying attention to me how can she afford to live here and it turned out that I was being really stopped by the next door neighbor and he was watching people come in and out of my house please and they follow the Personnel at my house and then and the prostitution and the City please please the goddess God is probably arrested I want to make it out to be but God is it is here now so yeah and I did my best there you know having as my son was seventeen at the time I thought it was about so I had to work with that system and I live in the house and continue growing and evolving so I could stay safe and just became you know if that hadn’t happened how to how to keep yourself safe and how does how to give your message and teach in a way that everyone should feel good about what’s going on here and now I have all kinds of feelings be supported and how we are treated by write thank you for sharing that yet it’s it’s it’s interesting there was some legislation I believe recently in New Hampshire that didn’t make it through but it was it was to legalize sex worker various how do you feel about the current state of the struggles to dignify and to provide services for an end create legal space for safer more protected sex work on all levels if you have sense since that time you know do you have to wear your where you at with the whole issue you know I think about it in various ways because I owe you know what you talk about drugs do you know you had decide comes this week and we know the government involved in all this criminal activity how do you want to try to control as many as they can keep you illegal they can keep their money working as far as you know attacking you or text you or their hands are directly involved in about as far as environment I just what I believe in I have known because I was a counselor for women that became because of different reasons to heal and not be to have a safe environment with people can choose how they are strict rules about getting the stuff checked by the GYN STDs and what is it that you feel you are good at I don’t believe that your value you don’t feel like you matter because there are all kinds of people taking advantage of people we have to bring our soul into a body in mind so that we can heal I just think there’s all kinds of hands involved and Kohls friends and Beauty support my Ministry so I can continue to use the sexual abuse Spirit religion religion and spirituality is makes the most money how much money is coming at at all and then we can support around that and I’m going to try to slow down now I know I totally agree with you that was a beautiful Highway because on the The Shadow side yet that is really looking at taking a clear and sober look at the you know the underground economy that really runs the world on and really it’s the statistics wants that I don’t know if I get the exact order properly but it’s basically guns drugs and sex are the biggest industries and they’re all interlock because the pants you need The Pimps need to drug the prostitutes and have guns to fight each other and shoot back at the cops when they get rated so ultimately what it comes down to is the commodity is the vagina and more than anything and her friend yeah I got a fellow goddess you might nor actually but that she she is a very powerful woman and she said you know she pointed this out to me she so you can go down anywhere in and you have the the constitutional right to buy a firearm if you can kill someone with but you cannot buy my pussy that’s how powerful my pussy is that’s how dangerous my pussy is you can kill someone with a gun but you cannot buy this cuz it’s that much more powerful and that’s a profound statement and now you know what you’re saying about yeah these the industry of going and buying your tickets to Heaven that whole industry in the industry of buying your ticket to sexual access and who’s profiting it’s it’s that that pyramid you know skeme at the top so you know breaking that free and liberating all that I feel like you were testimony of Deliverance let’s say from surviving childhood sexual trauma I feel like I’m kind of gas The Narrative of folks who have fans who have lived through those experiences and found that sacred sexuality and in Tantra and various modalities of healing and Shamanism really is the I think it’s the most potent way to open people’s eyes and sort of wake people out and hopefully with enough of a critical massive that awareness so you know we eventually I pray you know that we will we see Manatee will drop everything and come to the rescue of the children who who are being abused and you have been abused and Andrea Lee Gifford all of our energy and efforts towards understanding fully and then re-engineering redesigning all of our culture has to be attended to I Really empowering you know single mothers or independent mothers to work together to have the support that they need financially and you know ecologically to to just do nothing but with her instincts the wet all women I believe love to do and are stinks you decided to be on on on life guard Duty for their child sexual development I mean is that is that too much to ask it seems like it’s really our Birthright but then you have all of these all of these commercial and ego-based narcissistic distractions that keep people on a hamster wheel of success and all that stuff so I know I’m just reaching the converted on the soapbox but I just wanted to kind of have that kind of set the set the table event for you two to talk about a couple of things that start you know stood out for me as I’ve started your work and one is that you were personal story of having hands on sacred spot healing massage work like pelvic release work done and what that was like for you and then also your I feel very much alive and with your way of describing that there’s more than meets more than meets the eye and these acts of human conduct of abuse is actually other actors who are non-human who are involved in this this sort of deformation of of human sexual character development and and the sort of plague like infestation or infection that there’s a lot that we need to understand from astral perspective and if you would please if you’re willing you know to go into some of that you again really help people understand what we’re up against cuz it’s not just it’s it’s not what we think it is that’s a lot more complicated so you know I’m a succubus being molested being raped and why is this happening this to me I’m a little girl you know I was that we’re all related to family DNA genetic programming a lot of people been molested what I learned over the years about being attacked in my sleep by Spirits was because of the the Target that was on me from the fact that I had people in my family that were doing and what I suffered in my sleep I will be attacked and my sleep I was being choked and if any was in bed with me they would wake up to me I didn’t even have to try to help me through this and then all the times I would be screaming and held down my son was in another room and when she get up he and I could see him coming out of my body above and floating over with my bed and see myself fighting with the spirit I can’t make out who it is the different colors like a black or gray kind of smoky crushing on me pressing down trying to choke me and I will see my son waking up in the other room slowly kind of sneakily walk into the room first time he was really questions and coming to me but all you had to do was touch me or kiss me understand what was happening to me was because of the healing that I was going through my wedding ceremony and I are meeting about 6 check coming over like I said I had to do this because of the it would be sex because was it because he think that happened to me and as I was knowing that was a true but still walking my past it was still going on inside of me so people will be coming to me for counseling so I’m having night tremors what the hell is going on. What the fuck is happening oh my goodness so finally I went therapy to get this help Translate but it was kind of like telling my text about this is that you know and he said well we need to you know go inside the video me and I need some massage directions and it began you know and I had this massage that was go into my home and it just I’m heading out of my pussy every time I want yogurt I was so hard for me to have orgasm because I was so angry in order for me to have an orgasm squeeze my nipples so hard that it was lead girl I start to recognize the anger that was in my heart because I still knew that I was supposed to be killing it and I’m still having night tremors so when I started to receive these not massages is far too late to empty out the heaviest that was in my pussy that was in my middle you know and it was just one of my development my teacher he was teaching us about each part of the shop was and it spoke about the root chakra and then be able to just looking at that photograph my wife and keep on looking up to do with it has everything to do with it prepare me to be able to become an initiate was very very true, had something to happen to be right when I was 9 years old and it came out, had never done any work around I do with my husband and we’re engaged and things are going on in all this happiness and joy and then someone exposes this person that hurt me and I’m just shocked that this person was around me again and I had a big phone it was an amazing show on my cameras healing of being massage Leone and in the end it in the ass if I had to be able to hold space to read to see me going through this message and massage and spirits that come into us because they attack us physically first people around are at 7-Eleven because some people that have sexual abuse and their genetic programming and that’s why it happens to a lot of people ways we can start to break this by cleansing ourselves because we were extended to our spiritual Warrior cut it off right where it where is try to go to sleep. Is not happening anymore but this is really why would be so that would not be we can be targeted in the spirit realm and physical round and this Dimension movie with Erin Stokes that was deeply moved when I heard the episodes that you mention that there was one specifically that stood out do you remember the title so that I can be sure to put the Lincoln and direct people there because it’s really feel the most complimentary pistou to a lot of my work so far that I found I could tell you in the title you look at episodes is the one that Lori hammers them in the show we did not know we were going to go yeah sexual demons or something grab my laptop you want me to try to go get to five seconds okay so I’m going to look it up my episodes right now while I’m with you so this is the most important what I want to leave this life having accomplished one of the few things is to consolidate these This research and and really ultimately have there be a very clear understanding within Humanity that sexual abusers are being puppeteered by spirits that are non-human and those spirits that are not human that are puppeteering mostly men because they’re more easy to fracture and kurupt on and the other astral body they see the male astral body I say myself hostages is that the penis becoming an instrument of harm demonic weaponized male human penis is is a a more effective tool for the Demonic puppeteers to create the traumatic event is it the it’s it’s actually Landed It lends itself sadly very unfortunately to being an instrument of puncturing Astral bodies so that the larvae of the Demonic entities can be injected just like parasitic wasps and parasitic wasps have a natural life cycle in number of parasites in the wild have been studied to where they they feed their young by injecting their larvae into the bodies of other species who are helpless to pull them out of themselves and their hence the need for Hands-On Sexual Healing because that is the extraction work the surgical work on the Astro Boy body where wherever people are being raped there if there are still ways that are jacking into the nervous system and they’re not time doesn’t heal that time actually makes it worse because it just continues to Fester it’s like having an infested gangrenous wound and putting a Band-Aid over it called going to church or called going to a talk therapist but when you do the Deep you know revealing of that infested wound and you kind of take that that superficial bandage off of you know our personality personality really just like a Band-Aid on our childhood trauma even if it’s not sexual it could be anything so whatever personality you put if you don’t do that spiritual deep cleansing will work and extraction work and you’re still being possessed by and run by those entities in for a lot of women that results in cutting themselves you know drug and alcohol addiction sex and love addiction all those pathologies good for men there’s a amorsa tistical a higher statistical danger that they become fully possessed to complete the life cycle and then become rapist and abuses and sell so it’s about stopping an intervening in this with a medical terminology and a medical discourse around it so with that with all that said if you found that if you you view validated that yeah so pleased with that said please continue and Demon the evil side effects with parasites sex and spirit on June 29th 2016 those two probably relate with parasite that’s exactly what you’re talking about and so those two shows that they are the butterfly goddess Laurie handlers Sheriff help me finish what I needed to do so yeah so that’s there to for 2015 Spirit entities and demons parasites Texas. Is June 2016 well okay awesome I’ve been waiting for this moment I’m actually I’m actually at this moment in the same place where I was first yeah I do I do let you know gardening landscaping and I’m having the flashbacks of being on a ladder you know he’s getting when you got into this and I was like this is the other I mean this is the most validating discourse so far that I found on what I’m saying and it’s so it says it’s interesting because as a as a spell most My Life as a skeptic core Lexia scientific rationalism materialist atheist whatever and the and when I when I had to start getting into my own Sexual Healing Journey you know the more discovering more hidden, very true, and what not and it became it was revealed to me that demon possessed rapist did you know did the acts of harm Jimmy and the demons possess the rapist have have to be hunted out of every person that they have been made that hosted humans are made host of these that diffuse so it then becomes a mission to free yourself and to purge and to extract and and that’s when I said I said what kind of our how well there are people on Earth who talk about these things than actually they’re called Christian Center called Hindus in there, it’s and it’s it’s it it was to come full circle and say wow there’s actually value in some of the the more I sent a candy per teachings of these wisdom traditions of mysticism but somehow they’ve lost the power to actually perform the fundamental task of exorcism yet they have the time they have copyright practically they are the the the Monopoly of Exorcist and yet they have either lost the ability to perform that this technique accurately or they have conspired to water it down so much that they’re actually able to propagate it and that’s the whole thing with the pedophile priests is it they’re actually I mean what could be more of a betrayal than to not only you know why this and cover it up and to have a cold a giant conspiracy going all the way to the Vatican you know about facilitating these acts of of rape and violence and violation molestation of children but they’re actually simultaneously representing that they are the highest most qualified Exorcist So it&#