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Seeking the Soul of Local Tantric Energy with Reverend Priestess Sandivel TPP240

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iX CheL Sandivel Pic

In this episode I’m joined by iX-Chel

For a conversation about what she’s been up to of late, her new insights into male sexual continence and energy cultivation, her thoughts on sex workers’ empowerment, her upcoming retreat, and much more!

About iX-Chel:

Reverend Priestess Sandivel, best known as iX-Chel Sandivel, is an intimacy mentor and guide. An Elite Tantra Educator and former Nike Elite Sponsored Runner, she was born in Mexico City and raised in Southern California. She is passionate about creating safe and expansive experiences that allow the human spirit to evolve with ecstatic awareness, confidence and self-love through her mentorship programs, personalized retreats in the tropical jungles of Mexico and playshop events all over the world.

Though movement practices, cultural experience, tantric breathing techniques and ceremonies, Sandivel supports others to discover a profound, ever lasting and orgasmic love within.

Adoring the Beloved Within: www.sandivel.com/retreat

The Golden Child Movie Commentary with Devika and Sagrada TPP218

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The Golden Reunion
Eddie Murphy and Jasmine Reate movie reunion

In this episode I’m joined by Devika the Techy Tanktrika (devika-singh.com) and Sagrada, for a commentary on the movie the Golden Child which was a favorite movie of mine growing up and is a masterpiece of tantric sexual-spiritual education.

We share our common interests in the themes of the film and share thoughts as it rolls in the background on the significance of each scene as it relates to our life experience in tantra and beyond.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number so yeah it’s going to be around table Extravaganza with this Golden Child movie which is so near and dear to my childhood in which took me like 35 years to decode and now I realize everything everything I’ve ever cared to know about Tantra I learned all ready for my age of eight by Eddie Murphy so go figure you got between Eddie Murphy and and Barney the purple dinosaur you know you heard about that right amazing Barney the purple dinosaur yeah he’s that he’s a tantric sex healing master and you need provides a full-service tantric sex work for women who can afford the the billina and I guess yeah he’s just like he’s got Prana just to spare you know so I can check them out on Twitter to that’s how I that’s how I tracked him down sweet. One of these days we got ya at him and Eddie Murphy anytime you’re welcome on the township of podcasts do this tell us all about how it’s done cool so yeah then so we all at this point I’ve watched this movie probably a hundred times and you all have watched it probably one time each and I introduce it to you for devika because this is kind of like your stick is the the tantric Buddhism and the everything I started to learn from you and that was new to me about Tantra that was very much foodist into nature it would just match up to a lot of the symbolism and mythology and storyline of The Golden Child So before we get started with this this experimental commentary we’re just going to play it in the background and just react to it as it goes along it will will let people know where to queue it up from and make sure we’re all on the base of the same starting point but but before we do that would be great just to have a few thoughts of yours that we could just serve your kind of initial debrief analysis thought stream that comes from really having probably a lot more of a sense of what’s going on then the most people in Innisfil oh for sure you know I am looking at it and I’m Amazed by the accuracy of certain things in the sense that this was before the internet has access to your specialty Buddhist communities in this case but what I found particularly interesting is that I know I sent you this documentary called the on the steak and child and was created in 2008 and there was there was a lot of overlap in the sense because in The Golden Child we see this child but you know is said to be the sacred leader from you know prior life and the whole and I mean I don’t get too much into that part because we’ll see it anyways the beginning of the movie but this whole concept of finding this child because it’s important to their word to their community and there’s there’s so much historical in the bite behind that and I just found it amazing that they chose that seem to go along with in this movie I would love to know more about what inspired that this might be because there’s even like a you know we’ll see parts of the beginning where I’m just like yeah okay they they know what’s up they they have a pretty good understanding of the selection process wedding you know possible children who could be these leaders if they’re looking for so that’s pretty amazing and you know it at the same time this movie is also a testament to its time in the sense that it really is you know there are still a couple things that you know we wouldn’t I think this early due today would probably try to do better but I was still quite impressed by that and some of the relics what I saw in the shower I’m so yeah I’m really glad that you brought this phone to my attention bed awesome yeah it’s been accepted by I’ve been dreaming about for a long time cuz I somebody somebody besides me has got to enjoy this as much as I do and I feel like I haven’t found the found that tribe people that can see it from both both perspectives and you know the quick Point I’ve done a little bit of research into the origins of the just reading the Wikipedia and there’s also I’m going to digest the the the magic some notes on the Oliver Harper retrospective commentary where he did a review of the film and he brought up a lot of obscure film sack toys and things about it but but it is interesting to note that it was yeah it was originally intended to be a very serious kind of Adventure Thriller experience and then it’s I think somewhere relatively close to the last minute of getting close to production they just flipped the script Eddie Murphy came in and they decided to make it this way more tongue and cheek experience which totally works and it’s it’s just like so magical I just know when a movie has magic and when it just doesn’t and this just has it and it would not compute but it’s so after I think for westerners to have an entry point of the skepticism of anything mystical and then ething anything of that nature and so he gives you that sort of comic relief of how to approach this from as an American you know and American hero archetype to he’s like the wolf will go into it as we go along but but I will save us all feel free to to somewhat somewhat gracefully interrupt each other if there’s like an Uber we got to make a point about what’s going on cuz we can come in and get off them to the Weeds about about just exploring different aspects but if something comes up on the screen you don’t feel free to just like blurt it out and hopefully we won’t need deposit or back up or anything that could get confusing but I will just go along and and and do like the great says that the other commentators I really like that our form so so yeah without further Ado let’s see if we can kind of get a little bit synced up here so how about let’s try to get it to Missy we’re going at we’re at the point where it’s going to give the like Studio logo mountain range thing in like see see what happens like right after that way we can get pitch like the first title or something like that so so we’ll just let me try to keep it up after the Paramount sign or exactly what is like the first thing that happens right after and then we’ll start there so there’s a balance to the very very beginning of a so alright so we’re at the same point was just let it roll and then by all means tell us what we need to see you read between the lines I I certainly can’t a lot of stuff I wouldn’t pick up on so yeah translate what’s happening hey so it’s definitely taking place in a monastery them suspecting there intending a trailer to be into batter even the Paula because a lot of Tibetans did end up the fun facts or interesting fact rather there is a lot of Tibetan Monks in Nepal can you kill the audio on that sorry we’re going to just okay as you’re saying so much see her The Golden Child is actually a girl to I know that really yeah that is so cool because a lot of the times when we’re looking at actual Encounters of people looking for a previous leaders that usually layer usually looking for boys like I mean not explicitly stated but a lot of the children who have been found in these lineages are boys so that’s that’s pretty cool Russian Tea actually there is an ambiguity They Don’t Really emphasize whether the child has you know what whatever their gender is or non-gender so I think that maybe early makes this ahead of its time so she would give me information you have been sorry earthquake in Nepal a few years ago and they had in mythology that that there was a basically there was a goddess Temple that was spared and there was it a female child of devotion who was in that building and they kind of reaffirm their prophecy that that don’t don’t mess with the goddess Temple or you’ll get the rest you know is like a people were able to read into it what so we just saw some offerings be made and this is her actual Nala from a previous life and it’s really interesting how they did that cuz they gave them and they gave her those three to choose from and she knew which one was hers when she was knowing what that luggage was exactly having some sort of amnesia all right and then we’re going to see the power to restore life which is foreshadowing but we won’t spoil spoil it now she’s picking implements that there’s another process they think what they do they really cool before CGI really was a thing so they’re using real person just amazing to me so here goes the beginning of this raid and you never I guess if you knew more about the the the costuming that you might get some clues about where exactly they’re supposed to be from there or if they’re just like a ragtag band of goons working for the dark Lords of the Underworld did you have any sense of if they were representing some I mean like in Indiana Jones Temple of Doom they actually were explicit about that it was the thuggee cult that they were trying to represent what shall we say it in but there’s no real ID you seem like a good dark spiritual gangsters or something actually seen this sorrow costuming another Buddhist related media as well and I mean I see it I think of Siberian tribes but + communities but I’m very clearly there’s there’s obviously utility in having those typos wardrobe in cold areas right I just reminds me so much of a Game of Thrones character I was going to ask what what statue is behind can we see what statue is behind the child or is it just a question but I think you’re right like I was only imagine what they would have put me in tibetan Buddha but I honestly I can’t see it right now. Thing not to throw any any Asha monoculture under the bus but I know there is some extremely like Twisted Black time for coats out of there but it’s also the place that the word Shamanism comes from so it’s not all there is a lot of Tibetan black magic to there’s one Buddha who actually started off in tibetan black magic and his is a very long story will get into but eventually renounces it and goes on to the Buddhist no path and that’s basically his whole story this whole Jam so yeah there are there is there I mean in any for every lineage there’s always going to be you know a left pop right path dark path you know like there’s obviously always great Pops to right but yeah you’re going to get a variety of different paths with any any spiritual lineage really we we passed it a little bit but was there any significance to the cage are the reason why they needed to basically come like some from Destin yes I just like I would look like one of those Claws from Anarchy okay yeah I don’t know what to say about this what’s happening here it’s the pretty much exactly hey I’m all for the chunky asses I’m okay with this Ray why does he have to be ashamed of it he should be like seeing and dancing and worshipping the chunky asses as they walked by it’s so sad actually kind of seeing him just kind of being like okay I want to go now or you know so what we were referring to is this Montage that’s happening of American looks like l a Hollywood mostly and Eddie Murphy’s walking down the street putting up posters for a missing child who he’s he’s basically like somewhere in between I don’t think he actually is the cop maybe he’s an ex-cop but he’s like a private detective / Bounty Hunter / they caught ya like he puts Outpost reward for missing children so he’s some kind of like benevolent charitable Bounty Hunter kind of thing for lost children and they never really get into why that’s his thing but he’s definitely just plays the part very well as like a man on a mission and but he was at a newsstand and he finds a guy reading a porno magazine anybody makes fun of them in the car runs away and yeah he’s just reacting to everything going on and then we get to a point that I always I always drive to not be that guy but I know that I am so much like they make this I’m talking about right the host of the show who talks too much you are never liked that bad because that’s why I like doing your podcast like you know if you invite me I’m always grateful because I think you know if we always have good exchange mint got all three of us are here too because we’re not let you know I agree I think I mean you definitely let people finish what they’re saying then at least she let the message get across we can hold it for a sign you’re not the only the mic but this guy here I kind of like I kind of remember when there is like shows like this really everybody has 5 Seconds daytime kind of cable access that was the him being on a TV like daytime look like maybe cable access talk show talking about the missing child and giving you some background details and then it’s cutting to this gorgeous Tibetan scholar women who just is holding down her Shakti so hard and just stands out as a character that you would almost never see her stoicism but her sort of Mastery and self-mastery and discipline in her disgust with everything sloppy about the West is so spoken to wish I were a boy find interesting because this actress she’s actually Irish and Colombian and in herself I was like she’s doing really well with the part but I mean if it was today we have a lot of variety I feel it would be hit a little more home to the nationality I would think of all the record I think she did a great job with this everything you just said yes and I will say that that if I were to whatever part of my my time Trek Adventure in life has been has been asserted from the groove been carved by Eddie Murphy than this woman has appeared in my life in the form of three different people and you’re one of them but basically like her entire character has been like split into three of my real life movie characters so I give you I bow down to you for bringing bring a part of that that Juju and save us both for your wonderful Journeys thank you both for sharing through you know mediums like this thank you yes I did now we get into their she finds him she believes he’s the finder of the Sacred finder of lost children that the chosen one and he said Urban Dynamic with the kids playing basketball with and he thinks she’s crazy because she’s telling him he’s the chosen one he needs to go to bed to rescue a child thinks he’s smoking Scrolls or he thinks she’s smoking skulls and plays with her scroll that is like the prophecy and heroes it up like a joint and makes fun of her for having smoked it and says Topps rookie scrub yeah I don’t know maybe Hollywood at this time felt like Eddie Murphy was going to bring this to the you know the Blockbuster and it’s interesting you know the way Americans will bring up other cultures you know but also prioritize maybe things that we care about our culture it’s just interesting the cultural play but I guess they couldn’t be one story without the other apps maybe in the trees and maybe even to this day it doesn’t even happen where you know cultures are appreciated for what they are not made fun of you know and juxtaposition but yeah I seen this though happened in the 80s you know I wouldn’t have thought that there would be a movie like this at all I know it’s really a great movie that I ended up enjoying it a lot and I do think Eddie Murphy yeah I can imagine it without him it just it is so magical he just I think about the movies that that you can just feel it it’s a it’s a pass no pass on the magic test for for all films I thinking and this one it just Mi hours it’s kind of like a lost boys to say comedy and horror and vampire and she saw work but so this is now we’re going to see some fast and stuff so they are investigating this crime scene he was tipped off that these that there was a young woman he was looking for The Runaway teenager kind of got into the underworld is found having been used as a blood sacrifice to pollute to try to see the The Golden Child polluted blood and they’re in this occult looks like a squad of a scooter renting this kind of disheveled house and turned it into a Black Magic Ritual complex where they’re putting looks like Sanskrit spells in the walls and and very very creepy very very heavy vibes yeah it’s like black country graffiti it’s so funny because I mean you know even you know what the oatmeal hell this stuff will look at it and be like there’s something very visceral to me about it yeah I agree that’s it to me to the oatmeal really gross me I did look corny in a little bit and then you don’t want to explain a little bit later that it’s to put basically poison the child I thought it was specifically there has to be this writing has to surround the child and then they have to like ingest things and that’s how you diminish the prices vary it just seems like it came from probably inaccurate source of whatever this this tradition is or this yeah yeah I totally I know I was really sitting there thinking to myself well what where was the black what source material were they Consulting with because it is I think it’s creepy because I feel like there’s some accuracy you know to to what might have been written or passed down through oral lineages or you know something like that when it comes to black tan talking about somebody somebody with a real scholar that they must have consulted with in a probably a lot to interview them at some point someday if I would get to this podcast to the point where I have the ability to maybe not Joe Rogan status but a piece to the point where I can talk to people who has agents and things and a lot of these writers they’re pretty obscure it’s not like they’re going to be need to get to a million assistance to find them in all of these writers were just in The Hired Guns and Things so would love to get them on here but this is a great seeing where he’s really now having to Grapple with the occult and the skepticism of the otherworldly demonology that she’s bring to him very seriously so he’s just making sure that we’ve been through this deadpan but he has to just block everything that she’s saying and she has to just kind of like roll with the punches and hang in there did any of you like watch this and think of Donkey from Shrek sometimes like you need documents I look at it and think of his role as donkey and every movie okay so no she’s got him semi on board at least to make a few meetings visit some people to try to try to win him over that he’s the gold that he’s the the chosen one and the golden child must be rescued by hand The Chosen One according to scripture to help she wants to introduce him to some some folks some authentic folks who are going to help him get the picture and and so they’re going to this like a herbal store like a Medicine Shoppe and he’s going to meet this half dragon half human lady who was who’s very erotic and very very interesting absolutely said I love her but her story makes me a little sad though I do a little bit later I don’t want to I don’t want to lose the moment they have a quite a mix of different esoteric parts of different cultures so this is Chinese folklore there’s a combination happening here because there’s a lot of overlap right so with another guy you’re going to find them in South Asia so they can be especially in Nepal Tibet there is talk of them in China and also in Thailand and I believe in Bali as well we see variations of the lure of the Naga people which usually it’s interesting you’ll find good and bad right with naga in this case it sounds like the Naga they’re referring to our not-so-nice especially when we talked about the ancestry and how her lineage became part Naga because her was her grandmother that was raped by a dragon I think is part of the story so yeah so you know there are there is a lot of folklore about the not being good and then in Buddhism we do come across a lot of still some really interesting stuff weather connected to wisdom and wisdom bearing there’s a very well-known Naga Faker call Naga Kanya and she is an enlightened being who is a wizard bear but there is a lot of folklore just as equally about dog of people being you know the offense not behaving like a wisdom bear necessarily like they’re angry so they’re definitely walking through Chinatown right now so that was probably just within the range like you said if the overlap of different people mess up together representing all the different coaches there I think we missed a funny line where was looking at one of the preparations and he asked what it is and he says something you know he just died I’m not going to butcher that the word he says what he says good herb is good to keep the Yang up and he goes nothing wrong with my yang totally app for anyone who is doing erectile dysfunction herbal preparations for Tantra you know therapist and counselors you know this dick is Eddie Murphy dick joke about cheese in the middle movie so odd to me because there’s a lot of pain medicine that does deal with erectile dysfunction in a sexual performance talking about just this aspect of you know we can look at cultures up to a certain extent it after that they’re kind of their to me you know not comprehended but rather sometimes people just make fun of them I was just having a talk with somebody on this week this weekend about it about that but the sad fact is up to what extent do we the society allow cultures to really know provide what they have to offer you know especially religious practices so there’s a lot we still want to see happen with that right but I digress but I mean yes we we do have a long way to go I think still was true acceptance and understanding and curiosity I think that’s the major part all right so we’re catching up on a few things thank you yet for for sharing that and kitchen history he was he left that place and then he tried to invite her up to his place and it failed like it landed he landed on his ass with that it’s him and and she was very cold cold blooded when he asked again if she said no twice and then he pulled this act of trying to act like he was possessed by the spirits to tell her that you should go up there so it’s definitely like it’s sad because that’s like quintessentially what all of the country trucker earape artist guys do is like oh I am the spirit I’m the Divine Shiva and I’m channeling you know your instructions to there’s guys she will charge women thousands of dollars for their blowjob Enlightenment courses and so that’s like where that all starts but appreciate you know she’s like she’s really better boundaries we love to happen but it didn’t in the movie I was expecting that cuz I don’t know you know Ben we’ll get there we’ll definitely get there like the though they don’t be a I love to see that the XXX version but but that happens it happens in his dream though it’s funny he has that will get there but so now they’re there at this 441 some of these these black magic gun guys are basically they’re tuned in to what’s going on in there will do they have like a hideout now in La where they’ve taken a child to the US and now they’re doing this desecrated geometry later they could just hang out where they’ve set up multiple meditators who have this sort of triangulation of energy to basically block out his ability to astral project so he had he or she he or she that The Golden Child the golden kid is able to see and understand also telekinetic so meditating and praying to knock over that bullet blood being like that’s a nice look they got an expression yeah give me a break you’re not going to poison me I’m smarter than all you guys and waiting for one of them to fall asleep just stirring do all this the CIA black-ops MacGyver stuff and then also eating this sacred Leaf that’s nourishing and must based on some scriptures about how you could be meditating forever and only subsist off of like pot leaves and things so like the sunlight but are the the other and then a little bit of vegetation right just just to sustain oneself no one of the evil meditators fell asleep on the job and then like the CL is broken and now the opportunity to astral project and to commune with Eddie Murphy the chosen one is going to create this difficulty for him to to shake the mysticism off and so the the glowing orb emerges and he can see the what do you thinks is maybe a dream but he basically was stirred up to go and see this I think very good effects for the time for sure it’s a see you in the astral projection and I will tell you that there was a time when not to get too personal but I had the same exact experience of you appearing to me and the middle of the night as an apparition and within seconds I got a text message I got a message from you on Facebook and it was experience that’s so cool naturally you know that. Your sis. Power start to arrive to help stabilize that energy so it’s pretty much a magical thing is pretty amazing and so I have this part in my book about you know how to really heal yourself from what you thought maybe of you know how house Gary masculine energy might be some time I’m sure there are practices that really going to that and yeah that’s really a good part of my work you because oh man I mean we are in need of some major balance here on this planet and in this life in this world I so I really feel the more that we can Embrace anybody and I’m leaning to the feminine that is rising right now the more we can scan with that the more that we can make space for on the masculine to heal and balance and I want to say like rice but like because it has risen it in excess right but balance in such a way that it kind of comes down to meet the feminine so that this beautiful kind of dance can emerge in more Harmony and that would just make such a huge total impact and he just within the body the container of one individual body being able to fuse and merge those energies is so powerful yeah I’m really glad you what I do awesome guy and I can say from experience from the first couple of experiences and session work that I experienced with you then I really got I was able to feel the force you know that if we’re going to be using that Jedi archetype you know and in there if you want to call Kundalini Shakti goddess energy which is I love calling I love I love hearing of Kundalini as a salmon in force and you were the one who activated that for me and it was just very Seadrill yeah I remember like it was yesterday and so I appreciate it getting you you can get really philosophical and really theoretical but grounding everything into practices to make it as a workbook almost it sounds like this is amazing so you and it’s something that has to be felt in the body to really know what it is yeah it’s hard it’s hard to find words nothing will thank you for all that great work do you feel kind of complete as in that in this kind of brief introduction but but pretty I think it’s a pretty good overview I definitely thrilled to to go deeper with it and others will be as well so I wanted to give the bulk of this episode to this important news of promoting and getting the word out about the book and then but also address questions that I’ve had as a sort of I’ve become a sort of meta Godparent to a lot of different mothers who were rebranding as independent mothers who are in various stages of Court battles with baby daddies for custody and for child support and and I’ve just checking on this sort of I decided I’m not going to reproduce biologically all of my vasectomy but I will reproduce culturally by my being short playing that that more of a Shimano roll in peace and also keeping a little bit of distance from that that this is a an ancient sword of time tree thing of if you are not to be the guru per se but to be an Adept you may have to disengage from householding because there’s just so much mundane kind of learning and things you got to sit through so your country path is always going to be kind of a balancing act between how much of a household are you going to be and what roles are going to have within a community and then how far out you get to go on your own into your mystical practices so I have taken that past of offsetting my my familial obligations a bit so that I could study things from afar and then just go to be this force of will hopefully an Angelic sort of force supporting women who are in different degrees of Crisis that’s just a little bit of a of a context for why it’s important for me now to reconnect with you in a n n learn from you and share your teachings about Tantra parenting the pattern that has been emerging in the question is being asked of me and the view is is how does a woman who has just recently given birth and going through all these different chemical changes and hormonal changes how do you what’s the advice on keeping that spark of love and attraction alive with the baby daddy partner what are some some tricks and tips that you would recommend for for that really critical bonding you know six segments of Life first of all I’m not going to lie. I think the first thing to do is I mean really too kind of except that it’s not going to be the same but. It’s actually you know like I said with you know what having kids how you’re able to look at the things that really matter to you that was so when you actually are with your partner and you have those moments you know they might be less but we are going to be amazing because you are fully present and you’re showing up each moment you know and the end of a lot of for me it’s like when I first became a mom so I had my first son and it was really hard I was just like what cuz I was Dino stole so focused on your child and really wanted to be there to nurture that I and you are you know you’re you’re so deep into it into motherhood and it’s so new everything is so new and exciting and exhausting but I am in a few months I was just like oh my gosh like how how does this work how do we make this work and it was really really difficult very difficult but I found that by you know because I’ve had my kids almost 8 years now until I found that really what we eat sometimes you know if if we need to say like make an appointment with each other and that’s what we have to do if we have to put it on the calendar they okay these are the the two or the three days a week that were scheduling for ourselves for intimacy for connection then that’s we’re going to do that first there was a struggle because my husband’s like okay this isn’t sexy yo after he got over that initial thing it was like okay like we can do this we can make time for this we can we can be intentional about it for us really had to do that because not only was it you know hard navigating with kids now but also the work you know work in the balance of that it was just really tough so that was one of the things that we did the other thing that I want to say is that sometimes you know you you have good intentions but I got at the end of the day you’re exhausted and and then you just end up wanting to just sit there and whatever you want to do watch TV or you know just go to bed until I always like to say that really if you really want to keep that sparked going not to give up just because you feel like okay you know I don’t have that energy right now or I don’t have the time to put into this right now to really see and used Contra in a way that it’s really meant to be experienced right because Todd’s are really isn’t just all about sex right and having that fat set spark Tundra is it much deeper than that and so sometimes you have to tell yourself like okay even though we don’t have time to make love right now maybe maybe it’s just about lying down next to each other synchronizing out of breath making that I contact I’m falling asleep to that I’m letting that be enough you know before you know this night or this week or whatever it is like in the beginning it’s not to really put so much pressure on yourself but to use Simple practice is like you know that you have your own position and just sitting there together and being or maybe you know it’s one night you really need a massage right now you know I really just after having a long day or a long week and be with the kids so much that’s what I really need so communicating that to your partner and really staying in touch with that and not being embarrassed or not feeling like it’s too much or too much of a burden or whatever it is just really being clear about what you deeply need I’m in a lot of that comes down to really checking in you know with yourself all the time and seeing what’s there I really feel like things like that even though you know you might be cuz it’s also self-care right so you’re able to connect with your partner in that way and then you’re also able to have that time must be nurtured and a slowing down which is also key so I think everyone is going to work differently and it’s going to be unique for all of us but it’s really about finding those opportunities to stay consistent to really stay connected in those small tangible ways and mlc really accepting that it’s okay that you know your relationship has changed the amount of time might be able to have to devote to one another Soul has changed I’m not true but you can actually take all that and evolve it into something in a lot of cases that really goes much deeper than that you know because now it’s it’s amazing you know you have this this connection and you know going through motherhood and Emma strikes that that gives you time to actually be able to take that foundation and that strength and that those nurturing abilities and that expression being able to use that with your partner in your relationship I’m having that Foundation really can make me very powerful in a way that’s unexpected just as amazing as you always bring it back to the fundamentals of the practices this is not all hot air to talk about it tell about doing it doing the work and I just feel like it makes me think that I can think of I mean I know some couples will have the foresight to at least make prenuptial agreement but I can’t think of anyone who they actually said we are going to go through the most insane trans transformation of everything we know we can if its first time parents who have no clue what to expect and they and what if they were to get these to be the eye of a storm throughout anyting that’s the Abbey unless Ty gazing the synchronized breathing you can’t touch that space with anything so but but pure Bliss and whatever does need to get work through if it’s done in that space it’s going to be conscious it’s going to be a constructive and it’s going to be a firming so I feel like it’s the what I’m hearing you say and what diarrhea firm is two people listening if you were expecting and you want to keep this container of love together and ever strengthening then start doing his practices now and know that you’re going to really rely on them it’s going to be life-and-death okay we’re just going there so I can breed all right like can’t we just do that let’s just do that next week or let’s just all of that I mean once you start doing it and engaging and you feel that present in your body and the Net Connection you have to just trust that all of that and all of that adds up and all of that makes a difference in your relationship every moment of that that time that you have on to be able to connect in that way as powerful well thank you again for bringing it back to to those core practices again you could have a lot of compliments sure there’s a million complicated bits of advice that people could give for this but this is so practical and and I just I dare people could really do it in and I don’t think you can fail you know I don’t think it’s possible to fail if you have good intentions and you do the scratches so yeah so we were getting also to your kind of making a perfect segue to the next question which is more more about the the asymmetry of responsibility and Duty specially for breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be carried to full-term and whatnot it’s it’s like there’s such a the mail investment just as how I always make this joke there probably less violence in the world is men had to breastfeed but women actually held the babies in their room still so imagine that you wouldn’t be off to go into war and using weapons and guns and swords that she had breastfeeding on demand for whatever after 5 years income that would be great that leaves man with such an unfair and balance of freedom and privilege to not be bound to the those tasks so a lot of women are rightfully lamenting this sensitive of the men who are supposed to be there showing up to with the with the mother is hoping for is that yeah he’s going to go to work and put food on the table and make it so I don’t have to work hopefully or I can work you know in a way that I can still be involved in my children’s lives you know for God’s sake you know who something something not just not just the short maternity leave remind me that the CEO of YouTube is a yogini who is Hardcore advocate for way longer maternity leave or something yeah I didn’t know that I’ll send you a link to a video where it where you get to see that she’s actually really badass them she’s a fierce that ass woman who’s awake I have no idea how did you navigate and how do you recommend for women who maybe don’t have is as blessed of a of a beloved Fixer-Upper type type men how do you get them on board with really going the extra mile of of checking in about about the needs a mother you know mother would have if she is being assertive about her knees in about the new suicide where she would like how can you be humbled to her and just be asking and showing up to being serviced that’s a question that’s a really great question and I have to say that I’m really fortunate with Eric because he I mean he has just him and he is just been a tremendous support from the beginning but then at the same time it’s like I also have to do my part with him right of being very clear about I need you no because then it that this always with him you know in the beginning of special rub up against this when he just wouldn’t know you know and I would be just waiting silently expecting something but he wouldn’t really know that that was what exactly I was looking for right because for women it’s like having that ability to breastfeed and nurture and carry this baby. Room I mean just how we have those abilities so readily at hand and we know what we need sometimes it’s hard to say yeah I need this actually it sometimes it’s hard because where we can be so strong you know and we can put off the 15 so strong and like we have everything together and I know that I do that a lot of time where I’m just like yep I’m good I don’t need help I look what I’m doing all by myself I’m doing all these amazing but that really inside I’m like oh my gosh like what am I I can’t do all this by myself and just allowing your partner that opportunity like okay like this is really what I need and this is the support that I need and this is how I feel going through that and not being afraid to say I am overwhelmed right now you know and and can you please and saying this from a place of love right not from a place that judgment and like what are you doing for me and you know resenting that you know you have more freedom than me and Bubba blah and I’m here breastfeeding or whatever it is not doing it from that place but from you know from your center from a place of love like I’m I’m really overwhelmed I need help with this right now you know can you get up be up with a baby now for two hours because I only had 3 hours of sleep last night instead of just silently you know doing in that moment when you feel I mean I I just I know a lot of of moms and a lot of friends who dust will just be like okay well he didn’t you know my partner my spouse he didn’t step up and so I had to do it and then my will but did you say something and they’re like no or maybe they did say something but you know it wasn’t from that place you know of just clear intentional loving vulnerable until. I think that was one of the biggest things for me especially you know when our relationship I’m like okay and then you know my husband tries to tell me like he’s Eichler like he’s like really I want to be able to show up for you like I want to be strong for you I want you to feel good but he’s like I honestly don’t I just need to to hear it I just sometimes I need to be told or I need to be reminded because it doesn’t come as naturally to me and then show me be mindful of that and not you know not falling to being hurtful or resentful something makes me cute different do you know well that’s really really profound that that really gets to the hardest exactly what I’m seeing go wrong inside once at once that slippery slope really hard I mean it’s kids once this thing start to add up then breaking through that you’re really. It’s really snowballing and that’s your thing everything is this Noble thing I’ve seen it yet so that is great advice I think that work that I said the fly to something if x is kind of ridiculous that it reminds me of I remember seeing young young women and whatever middle school or high school and home home economics class and they will be given an assignment to have a baby doll with them for whatever and in that relationship it’s like okay honey we’re going to do what it’s going to feel like for me to be busy and need help from you and you put in your garden that would be funny if it decided to give people that sensitivity at sensitivity training cuz once it’s already ratchet up and then more expenses than what I’m seeing to notice let me know way more than I do but it’s like I don’t think I think people underestimate the cost of of multiple visits to the pediatrician a week you know it’s like figuring out food allergies and decoding the sugar all of the ways that sugar is is is surreptitiously inserted into packaged food and just it’s such a pill battle to be holistic and to be in at all so it’s just this this is all in on top of just I mean most people are just buying everything off the shelf from entertainment to toys to food to diapers and whatever it is it’s all just off the shelf but to have that effect of wanting to do better than the last Generations or to resist the marketing and be more green or whatever that’s a whole another layer of the building so you know it’s just to get more and more complicated and at the end of the day I see the women just getting ran ragged and the dudes just kind of blowing him off sadly to say but if we could he had say that actually kind of Segways a bit to another question which is and this I mean you could you could write a whole book just on this subject alone out so I don’t expect you to to go too far into it but maybe just some off the top of your head pointers and we can move along quick to know we’re getting close on time so so any suggestions for creative and educational and non-toxic toys just a few maybe went to one website or one store just don’t know anything I don’t know if I’d be the best person to ask about that because I not that they have a choice in general just because you know like all the plastic and everything I mean and we like literally their toys are like one corner of our house like a couple of containers and that’s it and they barely even play them to be honest with you I feel like the simpler the better you know I feel like I’m all about like art you know art projects you know the pain and the crayons and all the art supplies and things like that so that they can enhance their minds and use their hands that way and explore that way they’re into that but I found that you know the purchases that I made with toys throughout the years it’s like that use it and then they’re done and that’s like a big hunk of plastic sitting there are biodegradable and Wooden Spoons and then they’d be busy for 2 or 3 hours you know that they have gotten that I get them they’re like okay and then they open it and then they look at it for 10 minutes and then I end up you know it’s just a way so yes so we do more we like to do more stuff you know in nature I mean they like to play you know what they say they love gospel they love being outdoors they love Ari and they love puzzles and things like that so that’s why I hope that I hope and pray that we will all have abundant opportunities to being healthy natural environments and have plenty of more outdoor time the better cuz there’s some nature is like endless you know just being outside they’re like so fascinated by every little thing the backyard I don’t know it exactly how I like how did the people survived all of those many years ago without these big pieces of plastic and well that is exactly what I thought I hope to hear in and a very firm it if so this is another test of the last one here is probably the the most kind of universal so I don’t know if there is an answer to this question however I died would like to spend I would like to spend my golden years doing a lot more anthropological research on on foraging sigala Terry and societies before you spell hunter-gatherer societies who have basically none of the the neurotic issues that people in the modern world have and and I love to know I would like to believe that there is that there was a golden age of human Innocents where the terrible twos didn’t exist and then that we could decode that and figure out what is it more nurturing Less Talk toxins I mean is it just that there’s so much overstimulation and so many maybe you’re actually able to perceive carcinogens at that age and then you stopped being able to and that’s why I mean it could be anything less or I could just sent them know something very out of balance that’s just modern so I’m just wondering if you have if you were really idealistic about know I’m going to teach there going to be a master Yogi’s by the age of one so that the terrible twos happen though I already beat exam enough I don’t know why you if you were like I don’t know like tell me what that’s been like for you and then if you have advice for people who are in that approaching that Horizon will for me I really I really just try to go with the flow you know just so I’ll talk to style just like accepting every part of it I was just part of the the beautiful messy process of development and growth and exploration and sometimes I do know because otherwise then it’s just become so hard you know what I’m saying because you expect it is you’re going to have meltdowns right it’s not it’s not going to be easy is there at like going to be some very tough days especially in the beginning if it’s going to be hard you feel like what what am I what did I get myself into one of my hairdo evaporate the next moment you know you’re going to feel the most joy and Bliss and happiness that you ever felt like wow that’s amazing that I get to be a part of this process you know that I get to witness this human being growing and developing and it’s it’s just amazing so it’s really you know you know the whole ton truck idea of a flowing through those energy that accepting every moment no matter how chaotic and allowing those emotions and those feelings and those moments to move to you during this challenging time to witness in you know children and young children because it’s like they can like be so happy in one moment and literally within five seconds that can beat me on the floor it’s crazy right it’s like oh my gosh the wide array of emotions from moment to moment and not inhibit that till I I feel like you know it’s like wow for me initially seen that in the beginning and fidget with night was my first one and that you can just move so fluidly like this and just just like that and get so consumed by something else in another moment we just amazing to me so I think we can really take a lot of sign a lot of lessons and just being present at something to a Full Circle closed right now because what I am even before you started to reply that lesson for grown-ups really about about cycling through your full expression and not choking your body is response to a situation out and the full the full body response to a situation I was actually remember me on my phone while I remember a room full of adults it you and Eric’s condo and we were being instructed to behave like children having a tantrum so that we can feel good and actually know the nice that storm there’s like the sun and the blue sky and in the EXO baekhyun the funny faces and doing the monster dance and some just like well you’re probably realizing hits are the times of the exactly yeah it’s it’s pretty amazing to witness is there a word for like reverse parenting or something has got to be a word for the the the from children actually teaching adults what they’re forgetting and I didn’t mean well that’s really it’s a really heartwarming conversation and I feel like the people who are hearing this and who have experienced so much pain and distress that there is such a open source free to use to spend your own time studying it get this book read the book watch Roadies videos I certainly considered to be the highest resource that I like to share with folks because of the same reason they listen before adjusters I don’t feel like there is a knot a snake-oil aspect of what you’re selling and there’s not a sort of a shady ulterior motive saying a gender that I have to worry about and and I just can’t say that about that many people until I’m sure you know and I certainly feel for myself that you know I have I always want to be deferring is often as possible to sort of protect my Integrity to not be the what do they call it like the god cock Shaman is just a narcissistic people’s souls and that’s easy enough to it’s easier to take that route of that that black timeshare manipulate manipulate almost hard not to do it so I mean I’m making and I feel like we are making major effort cuz that’s the complete opposite of what you are and what you and body I mean from the very beginning so yeah no thank you I really feel like you are just I mean somebody who’s just really in there doing that you’re like doing the work you know and you like do it like with an open heart you’re just like in there and you’re talking to everybody and just creating this just really amazing platform. You should be really proud of well thank you again and again I have to say you helped start at all and one of my the first real social proof that I had was that was your gracious licensing of me to share some of the video work that we did together it’s been a blessing that go into detail but all that in that in that previous episode supposed to listen of that and I will say that we we were blessed and burden in this in this time of this episode to take to cover a good intro to the book and also to open this discussion about time to Parenting I definitely want to set the intention that in the future we will give more of a of a deep dive into your personal background and it sort of will let that be a cliffhanger to hear about your experiences early introduction of Tantra and just kind of the got your path of building that confidence and certainly the form give experience Syfy oh my God it all yeah we haven’t got into your filmography either still be there next time to say this for next time to talk about birth because yes I mean not as deep and my experience naturally delivering and doing it with Tantra as my Foundation is the only way that I said I survived it and actually enjoyed it. Arrington have the complete box set free thank you so much thank you so much for having me it was really great and most richest time in in a moment to to share this Basin and certainly yeah it’s it’s a got it just give you a big big bow down because this you were the one who helped me start this this whole journey I don’t know I don’t know who I’d be or where I’d be doing it if we didn’t have a Meeting of Minds you know so yeah I can’t believe I forgot to say this I mean you were seriously you were the first one who discovered my website you were the first one who reached out to me and one of the first that I’ve actually I will say the first that I taught that I didn’t know because I had started already like teaching but like you know friends and friends of friends but you were the first clean one like the first student I was like oh wow yeah that that walked in and like was the beginning of really that Journey so thank you I did not know that I did not realize that that that’s funny so funny I can’t believe I never told you that that’s very well so everybody just like get over your awkwardness and just represent just like bring your egg and no matter what things will come out you know it’ll all fall in place to get back to the Sam and yeah I give them my love and thank them for allowing you to to do the book and for all of the people who parted the sea so that you could get that book done and then provide provide that to us and so much more thank you I know it I just want to say thank you so much for Amy what you just what you spoke about earlier just blew me away how you been stepping up to support women and you know what your mother’s I mean you are really holding for me to space there and this is really something that you know I know that would indeed and you know a lot of them have been longing for so thank you so much for for being that person and for filling that role cuz it’s just amazing the work that you’ve been doing all these years I thank you you planning to see each other that they were they say that it’s the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree at least in the sense of the guru to train me to be a womanizing pick up artist in the name of conscience so I guess that’s why we you know gravitated toward each other There Was You know. The little like energy so I think I don’t think you would have found that path that was not your will thank you so much again yeah so much so much good vibes and good times and we will be in touch soon and and best of luck with all of your your your book emotional adventurous okay great thank you so much fun. Country Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple provide ketologic employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Township Park. Com Thomas gay

 

Rock Your Cock with Evolved Masculine Coach and Tantric Punk Larry Fredrick TPP207

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Larry Fredrick picIn this episode I’m joined by Larry Fredrick a highly experienced and accomplished evolved masculine coach. He shares the intimate details of his journey of personal growth through the catharsis of the early punk rock movement, transcending a failing marriage, getting into self-help, pick-up artistry, and ultimately a diverse array of spiritual and sexual mastery programs.

He has a down-to-earth perspective on learning and teaching practical self-improvement skill sets for men. With over 10 years of advanced training and practice he’s developed the “Rock Your Cock” program for men to really step into their power from a place of heart-centered, mindful, and spiritual consciousness.

I was most intrigued by his stories of experiencing authentic traditional tantric initiation in the jungles of India and his explanation of how he’s been able to adapt the teachings and apply them in his own love and sex life, as well as transmit the teachings to his students.

It was a deep honor and pleasure to have this opportunity to speak with a fellow rocker who’s living the dream as a tantric punk, has worked directly with many of my heroes, and who embodies forms of tantric magic that you can’t learn from books alone.

About Larry:

Larry Fredrick is an award winning international educator. He’s also a sex coach;
licensed and certified in Erotic Blueprints, Sexological bodywork, Neurolinguistic
Programming, Hypnotherapy, and Somatic Sex Education.

Larry works with men who want to clearly find and express their desires so they can
feel empowered in finding passion, pleasure, and juicy hot sex. He has traveled the
globe, from the mountains of Peru to Tantric temples in the jungles of India, training
with some of the top names in the fields of self transformation and sexual education
including Jaiya Ma, David Deida, Michaela Boehm, Destin Gerek, Satyen Raja and Joseph
Kramer.

From having issues with erectile dysfunction, performance and social skills, to
becoming a multi-orgasmic man with the skills and techniques of a confident lover,
Larry helps men step into their full erotic power so they can have more confidence in
the bedroom and in their relationships.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin double dribble Evans welcome to Township Funk podcast episode number 2 0 7 buy a very Frederick who is a masculine empowerment coach and he has a lot of interesting and exciting offerings that we’re going to talk about we go back to having met through Destin Garrix Network and the weekends or weekend men’s Retreats that I’ve been apart of and he is taking that further and done the training and is now yeah Mexican apartment coaches work with Dustin Garrick he’s worked with Jaya and provides for blueprint training Psalm Isadora and others and that we have some interesting choices of Common Ground coming from a punk. Background and we’ll have lots to talk about regarding the relationship interplay between the punk at 6 and attitude and the Tantrum and so with that said Larry do you want to just give us kind of an overview of your personal Journey leading up to all of these exciting offerings at you right now well I mean my bias is long so I’m just going to cut to the meat I am on a masculine empowerment coach I have a program called Rock your cock which is on my website it’s exactly what the title says it’s to help me and be in there talking show up to women and masculine way and also be in their heart and be in their mind being there in their spirit so it’s connecting the lower chakras the higher chakras and it works through blocks and sexual techniques and on communication relationships so that’s the program that I’m offering the listeners they sign up on my website but I’ve also travel all over the world work with a whole bunch of teachers it’s been a long journey from a failed marriage sexless marriage to know I having an amazing hot juicy sex with an amazing woman I mean our house right now doing this podcast on so I think we should just get right to the question you might have been possible thank you that overview and I would say you have for me a lot of a lot of this work started with a path to Liberation through the punk rock movements I’d love to have to have you start there seems like an earlier chapter of your life when when you were mainly involved in that scene in that community and so I left it here just what that was like what that was like for you and how that’s kind of was a in a precursor to or foreshadowing a more spiritual path yes I would say that the punk movement was when I was part of the punk scene it was and I was not on the spiritual path I was graduated high school in 1982 and that was kind of the heart of the punk movement so when I would go out with my friends they would be to some of the Seas really small tiny little clubs and what I liked about the punk movement is that it was about redefining everything including what music you know like you didn’t even have to play an instrument to play an instrument and you also didn’t need what was an instrument instrument could be a power drill and instrument could be you know something that that you bang on and make noise you didn’t have to sing you didn’t have to look a certain way you could just go out there and express emotions so it was like in a really cathartic and sort of Rage driven and you know for a young man it was a way to kind of experience now on a more spiritual level two experience on a visceral level of emotions in a group of people yeah I hear you on that and that’s something I would like to ask you is as if you had since your contract negotiations and in Journeys in Adventures you I’m sure you have both experienced than just been coming across people who are core very much about inviting the shot the energy and Awakening Kundalini energy and a lot of sometimes erratic kind of krias and sometimes more graceful dance forms but I always like to make the comparison that the Kundalini energy is really well leather it up in the punk rock circle pit and sometimes even the mosh pit but there’s also like a activation going on that’s doing some stuff on purging and purification you have any thoughts on I’m not sure though I mean I know what I have learned over the years is a fellow I’ve done a lot of working in different states cramps and there’s definitely a trance that happens when you’re in a group of people listening to music whatever that music is an. The emotions that come out become magnified when they’re when it’s not just you feeling that emotion but a whole group of people feel emotions that are brought out in a punk rock club or different than in a tantric Puja but they’re still emotions and they’re still magnified by being in the group that is a great way to say and Selso and very inclusive way to say you had mention also that you do hypnosis so this might be a good time maybe a little out of the timeline to mention it here but we were talking about France dates and Altered States do you want to talk a bit about what he described for people who may be haven’t had an xtatic group emotional cathartic experience like what is that what how would you describe that in terms of your knowledge of how the brain works and how the nervous system works and and how Altered States were when you’re in a group of people doing the weather is a tantric Puja or a rock concert or even going to Vegas there’s a lot of things that are basically you go into a State of Trance when your mind is overloaded so if you’re overloaded by the sounds of slot machines going off at noises and sounds and smells your ear mind starts to get overloaded and then it becomes suggestible so we’re overloaded it when I live in Los Angeles I mean I’m overloaded as soon as I walk out of my house there’s there’s things that are overloading my mind which means that my mind is very susceptible to Suggestions by advertisers people that may not have my best interest so when you go into a trance State you were open and you could be open to positive suggestions or negative suggestions as a hypnotist I’m I’m trying to say I’m trying to see if you’re in that trance state with a hypnotist URI your ear assuming and I know that will not working with you I’m sitting in container with your safety mind and your best interest in mind so what I’m going to put his suggestions that are positive as opposed to suggestions that if you eat this hamburger from Carl’s jr. you’re going to get laid or whatever other suggestions people are putting in our head through our everyday hypnosis with that I don’t know if that makes sense yeah totally not exactly what I was supposed I’m getting out of here so I’m curious so from going from that earlier Punk type of initiation what what were some of the Catalyst I know you mentioned it a sexless marriage and so what was that process like of transforming your life pass into Seaking Tantra discovering it and then you can give us the sort of them chronology of the different works that you’ve been involved in 4 years old so I’ve had a lot of Life of different stories and episodes but I think one of us when I was in the midst of my marriage I was also sort of dissatisfied with my job and I went to I went to a therapist who was going to put me on medication and I said you know I’ll fuck that I don’t want to that’s not the route I want to go I want to take them medicine so I decided to look into hypnotherapy as a way of you know kind of working on myself like I figured that I could use positive thinking that use hypnotherapy to give direction to why was starting to feel kind of lost in a marriage and a job and it worked I mean a super powerful and I found that I was attracting when I was when I was starting out I was attracting a lot of men who either word at social anxiety or or problems relating to women a lot of guys that were in a computer Gamers and then they would just like really in their head and I found that they were drawn to me because I also I totally understand was a computer gamer I was addicted to World of Warcraft I was psychic Total Computer gamer I’m that was my way of escaping which is also a state of hypnosis so first I use it as a way of working on myself and then I just found that I naturally Drew clients for men who were going through the same thing I was in which is basically get out of your head and into your body and you know take all the negative stories all this all the self steam issues all the confidence issues in and a really men are powerful and in most of them we work hard and sometimes we forget that there’s so many negative stories like to impart positive confidence power and is just to show up those were some of the things that I was doing as a hypnotist and also letting them most of them were able to get over their shyness or their social anxiety and really feel much better about themselves and show up show up for women better now that you know that was just the beginning that was where I started I’ve got a lot farther since since I started out that is very interesting I’m very concerned about the new generation as well younger generation coming up through the video games in that level disconnection if you don’t mind before we move forward into more of the time and spirituality and sexuality episodes in chapters you know what would you say if you were if a person listening now is really hooked on gaming and not and not really taking care of their body and not taking care of their their relationships and I’m kind of getting sucked into that realm do you have any advice just off the top of your head that you would share or recommend that they contact you or I’d love to know about more resources for people in that situation too big essential secret for all of it and it’s not just kids on video games cuz I’m working out with about messing with about twenty-five men and it’s all they’re all it’s all the same as we’re in our heads we’re not in our body it takes like it it’s it’s like a gradual moving into our bodies and in feeling our bodies are so much numbness like I find the men that I’m working with right now I’m working with them and then they are like I’ll take a breath and they say what do you feel and if they will I feel relaxed bulshit you don’t feel relaxed you feel your body you feel the tension from being hunched over a computer over a car it’s like they’re not feeling their bodies so they’re not feeling their own their own bodies are not filled their emotions if shut it all down and they’re not showing up for the women in their lives thank you for doing that work and I would say myself I was I was very much a gamer growing up as a child but I guess luckily for me to games weren’t that controlling so I spent plenty of time by the time I matured sexually life my actual life became the video game that all of the BB King the real game that the video games were kind of like training for so I hope that that art of development can be kind of you know did you ever get that sense that there’s an appropriate role for four games of all kinds and then once life really starts going you should be out there and living it right but I mean I think everything is I’m not against games go and you know video games are awesome but I’m against retreating into your head into like a fantasy world so you’re not dealing with your own body your own emotions you’re not dealing with reality you’re not dealing with opportunities in front of you so you know there’s nothing wrong with video games is nothing wrong with whatever drugs or alcohol or whatever it is people use to get out of their bodies and into their you know whatever Escape people need but if you live there and you’re not you’re not connecting to the real world was obviously that’s not what I’m I want I want men to choose I want men to be a body grounded Power full sewing up in the real world and feeling their bodies feeling they’re motioning and feeling their sexuality because they’re missing out that you know that there’s a lot of men having sex or fucking but they’re not feeling like the full range of what’s possible in orgasm which even even what men consider orgasm I mean it took me a long time to reach to the point where I’m really like blown the lid off of what an orgasm is I I can I could lie in bed next to my partner and we haven’t even had sex and I’ll just be like convulsing in like shaking and in like complete pleasure that would could be nonstop until I finally so you know what I want to go to sleep so I didn’t even know what was possible an orgasm all right well yeah I get there I get your point I think so I think there could be a sweet spot of having your cake and eating it too guarding the video games and if you really develop yourself in in the physical and spiritual and sexual aspects then by all means enjoy the video games that I would take that to be some good advice and so now we’re getting into that more advanced sexual Spiritual Development so what happened next in your journey as far as your discovery of Tantra did you find out fire and go to a workshop or did some mystical Guru approach you and traveling trip or what was that that was very very much a guy into TV and video games and and I got involved in like the pickup seen you know there’s did the pickup artist scene and at which why don’t want to get into that but I was listening to a podcast and I found out about this workshop and it was a tantra Workshop didn’t you didn’t the guy named such Young Living Canada who is still I still involved with his great awesome teacher and it was a it was a 3-day workshop and involving Connection in communication between men and women and it was sort of a Puja but again none of these words and if you did I wouldn’t have known what it was what it meant I was totally not into anything that I considered spiritual chakras or any of that stuff I would not have gone which is it was called I think was called sex passion in Enlightenment something like that was a 3-day workshop and I went to that and it just blew my mind I mean making eye contact with different women and I’m all of the things that came up all of the emotions that came up all of the you know that the self-reflection that came up and reminder that there’s a story I told him another podcast but I might as well tell the story I was I was paired up with a woman and she looked me in the eyes it was like eye contact and all she said to me is I trust you this was just the lines that a woman was supposed to say to a man I trust you and I received that you know the woman sang to me I trust you and I I was on the ground like crying for I don’t I don’t even know how long are in a ball crying because I realized I was not a trustworthy Matt which is why my marriage is all fucked up I was not a man that a woman can trust and I sort of made it like I sort of question what what is it like to be a trustworthy man what is what is a trustworthy man that’s what a woman wants no more than a big cock they want a man’s dick trust I mean so it in terms of becoming a sexual Manner and I realized I had a lot of inner work to do and then I realized that what I was learning was Contra and then and then that set me on a whole other path which is actually why I was attracted to Dyess blueprints because she talks about different blueprints one of being energetic and I realize that I was an energetic and I didn’t even know what that was I didn’t even know that was a thing but now that I’ve coached for the blueprints it’s like I wasn’t energetic in my shadow which hole explain later but I was at I was an energetic was kind of didn’t know I was and therefore I lived in the shadow of the energetic well I just was a beautiful story and I think yeah but I’m glad that that offering existed and you were able to connect with it I do I didn’t get involved myself in the pickup scene and I I guess I kind of I feel like I avoided it as as a Pastime personally but I have met some people recently you know who was part of their the early attorney as well and so if you don’t mind talking about it I love to hear a little bit more but if you’d rather not that’s fine too but I’ll just put that out there for people who don’t some of the principles of it I think there is maybe it has a bad reputation as being manipulative and really selfish and kind of way to use kind of trickery and and tactics of Deceit and so that’s that’s like the negative impression I have it although I’ve been enlightened that there’s more to it and it’s actually a past 2 in development and evolution that’s that has a very respectable depends on who you train with or who your buddies are but do you want to talk about that is there anything Redemptive that people should know about that but I think there’s an idea is that we can change as men that we can learn skills we can learn skills like presents we can learn how to communicate better that these are skills that we need to learn that we’re not just some men are what are called Naturals but a lot of men are not and that there’s ways to teach it to the ways to learn it there’s ways to improve so the idea of men like I mean there’s a lot of ego and in terms of no I’m good I’m good I’m okay you know I’m I’m doing alright like the idea of the pickup is that actually wherever you’re at you could be better and pick up does use a lot of NLP which is neuro-linguistic programming that’s kind of a another reason I got interested in it and a hypnosis in a lot of the things that you know now that I that I teach it there was a lot of things that I learned from being in that scene especially the ideas at these are skills that could be learned in that they can be taught so we don’t have to be satisfied with where we’re at as men and that there are ways to break down and improve their very well said I appreciate that if somebody was had missed out on getting into the pickup seen earlier do you recommend that people go and read certain books or watch certain videos or find certain meetups is it still something that you would include in your programs for men now or was it something that you kind of see is like all well it was a means to an end or stepping stone I’m curious if you would still endorse that movement somehow we’ll see I don’t know what the movement is up to now I think there’s a lot of no sketchy kind of characters in there and a lot of like exploiting a lot of marketing and a lot of I think taking advantage of men who want to improve I mean I would recommend myself because hitch hook I’m taking what I learned from pick up from hypnosis and other things and spirituality and I’m not teaching not teaching men to go out to bars and pick up women but I’m teaching men to be the kind of man that wants to go to the bars they’ll be more attractive to women don’t I don’t teach lines or anything like that cuz I found they don’t work but works is doing the work on yourself so you show up as a more powerful attractive man and I think that what the pickup is exploiting is is they need which again I finding working with men is like we want the Magic Bullet and we want it fast and we want it like Surefire and we want it without doing the work like we want we want that they promised a lot and you know like the magic pick up line is going to make them horny and a lot of it’s bullshit really but if you get involved if it doesn’t wake you up and turns it over these are things that I can improve I I can improve my posture I can improve how I make eye contact with person and I can improve my listening skills I can improve how I show up and then these things help build confidence and then when confidence is building then you naturally become more attractive person and more attractive to women those again great points I’m glad that that were talking about that something I I guess kind of worried and hasn’t again been that personal to me but I feel you on that so so now where would you say you want to start bringing in the official trainings that you did the Special Operations that you’ve done with some of the sum of the key players in the modern Neo Tantra and movement sounds like you’ve been you know getting out there and so when did your formal or more formal training ministration start in Gaston go from there after I did that work with Sachi on the path of the Warrior Stage so I did a lot of work with him which included shamanic journeys to Mexico meeting doing doing meeting shamans and I can’t even like going to some of the the magical crazy stuff that happened in he he was he was into David data so I got involved with David data in one of his teachers Michaela boehm might I work with her and so these are different different forms of Tantra and none of them call themselves Tantra but then I got involved in like I met Psalm Isadora and she’s much more of a the more traditional like old school country from India or the cheap there’s a whole Neo Tantra movement which comes from Osho and a lot of the teachers teach this this form of Tantra that is basically from Osho when he came to America and I do know it’s like I can’t talk forever about talks so much about it but some really I really clicked with her because she she she brought in this like traditional chanting in Sanskrit and it was just beautiful rituals and I like the ritual of it I like the I like the kind of formality of the ritual so she told me about a temple that you did too in India and if it came to my mind and then she passed away so I never got a chance to go to this Temple but then I did with another teacher Don Cartwright took me to this Temple because it’s hidden you don’t know where it is and it’s like an old-school ancient country Temple Heating in the jungle and if you can give you make it there by got initiated basically it was like 2 weeks class of of learning how to chant incense sounds great and there’s is 108 goddess statues and you have to do a ritual to each one it’s it’s kind of like you’re just immersed in this ancient language there there’s flowers everywhere and smells and and it’s just kind of mind-blowing I was basically magic school it’s like I learn magic and but that sounds weird is it there there’s a hundred and a goddess statues in in like they’re all sexual and there’s that there’s a Temple there that’s like the Yoni Temple so it’s basically goddess worship and I have to learn these these these rituals and you just immersed in it and it is going into a trance basically your this thing is in the jar there’s no toilet paper there if you eat with your hands and it’s like a whole other world it’s like going back thousand years and and then at the end do you know I basically was initiated into the srivijaya lineage but what’s interesting about it is I did a ceremony with kaniche where I was basically the one of my wishes was to bring this woman I was seeing on this journey with me and I’m in our house right now it’s been 3 years and we were just kind of seeing each other but I wanted her to be part of this journey and then for Valentine’s Day after coming back from the temple I did this Pooja that I learned there in the temple that it’s like a secret ancient ceremony and I learned it And I memorized it and I practiced it and I prefer I did it to her on Valentine’s Day and she said that blew her mind like like like to have it wasn’t that it wasn’t the ritual of it but to have so much attention paid on her like all the details that you know you have to have and tastes all five senses I touch different parts of her body different pressure points and pleasure points and did chanting and took like 2 hours but it said she said that blew her mind you know like to have that kind of ritual performed on her and I could never do it again it’s like I could not remember all of that all of that stuff I learned I have to go back in my arms again but it was almost it did feel like I had received some kind of transmission and I like I was I’m talking about it I don’t really talk about this I’ve never actually really talked about this because there’s some feeling of I don’t know if people are going to believe me or am I showing off or what it what exactly am I saying and yet I’m also feeling like a vibration in my chest that I went through this experience was pretty incredible I mean hidden country temple in the jungles of India and initiating in the bringing that to my girlfriend yeah it is putting me in a trance as I talk about it well me too I’m having an adventure in my mind too and I love that you shared that and I feel blessed that you feel comfortable sharing those details with me and I’m sure there’s you know you can write a whole book just about that that cycle that you did there but you know I’m I’m flashing through all of the experiences I’ve had doing fujas and rituals and ceremonies and just everything that I’ve experienced in in the westernized Neo Tantra version where think there’s always a number of people who’ve had those more authentic traditional classical country experiences in India or in other parts of other parts of the world and bring that back and are able to bring that transmission and that energy carries forward for people who work for just you know in some meat up in somebody’s living room on in West play or something and actually it is it transmits but I love hearing the stories of the actual experience is cuz we really I don’t think we have many places in the US where where goddess worship and the ritualised procedural practice of worshiping and asking for blessings and protection from the deities I don’t see that happening a lot I send in the meet-up send in the township groups what not I think there is more of a focus on more secular personal development and just you know how to be a better relationships and this kind of undifferentiated one missense of bliss but I’m actually way more interested in this otherworldly transdimensional intelligent entities deities and beautiful Divine spirits that have personalities and very distinct archetypal Personalities in that that’s what you’re talking about and so I’m thrilled to always hear more about what those practices of the ones that seem to not get through the mesh into the West as often as like the multi-orgasmic even the Kundalini stuff which I’ve heard you know a lot of Kundalini people approach Kundalini without without paying homage to its is a feminine Shakti goddess aspect of it so much so yeah I’m glad you had that experience and then that you bring that forward and certainly that we just go from talking about the gimmicks of pick up Artistry which you know it’s like I think of pickup artists I think of con artists I think of like confidence scams and then evil going from from that Vibe of that world to this experience you talking about and translating the beauty and magic of these experiences in Matt’s and then having the proof in the pudding and applying it to turning on and really worship thing and giving to this beloved you yours like I hope that those people who are trying to buy the magic pills and by the secret pick up lines and all that they actually would hear this and and and be inspired by what you’re saying you say there’s like a way way deeper Richard passed to towards some pleasing women and in being a God you know being like the guy who gets her off the best and the guys will never forget that that can come from it a deeper more of my spiritual face so thank you very much that was my you know my my Applause and praise for it for you sharing that and so do you want to then go from there to how you started to apply that if you start to want to teach Tantra more formally and start building your own kind of phone programs did you do some other trainings if you go to work with diarrhea right after that or what was next time you’re you’re sort of Business Development path of Tantra make something clear like this I’m listening to this I’m not expecting men to go into the jungles in like wipe their ass with their hands because there’s no toilet paper you know what and then come back and do a 3-hour ritual to the woman in order to get laid that’s not what I’m saying that I did that but what I teach man is to put their attention and make make like or you can make an ordinary day exciting and ritualistic so like I’m going we’re going to San Diego this weekend and we’re sitting we’re going to turn it into a ritual at an adventure and I’m going to I’m going to pay attention to my woman as opposed to like the pickup artist seen I think there was a lot of like Don’t Buy Women drains their they’re not going to respect you if you if women don’t respect men who are nice guys and all that in you could be nice to a woman you could pay attention to a woman you could be attentive to her needs you could have your balls intact it’s not like if you’re if you’re nice to a woman or you please a woman or you pay attention to her that you’re giving up your balls that’s like the thing that I didn’t like about pick up cuz I love sharing my woman with some attention so you don’t like what I did was was a super elaborate version of that and yet there’s ways to pay attention in minor ways every single you all the time and so I try to make ordinary time with her you know beautiful and sacred and in treat her like a goddess even if I’m wash will just washing dishes you know like make that a ritual washing dishes so the dishes are done so we can go to the bedroom and we can fuck you know it’s like let’s let’s make washing dishes a ritual let’s make washing dishes set let’s make washing dishes away press to get that out of the way so we have space in our lives and two to pay attention to each other and dropped into a space of Sacred Love and that does not require you going to the jungles I just requires the shift in in your perspective I love it seems like there’s always going to need to be some ratio of people who have had the deeper immersive experiences in the classical traditional timeshare temples and then bring that back and you know it’s like everybody’s not going to be a shaman but we need to have a sweet spot kind of ratio so thank you for having that experience I’m certainly some point wanting wanting to to be one of those folks who can have a deeper experiences and then transmit them and translate them into a more modern contact so so yeah thanks for that clarification and and that makes a lot of sense so so yeah what would what was your next step word some building the confidence not only to please your own lovers but to teach bring this magic and medicine and and then skill sets to Two Men and develop more of a practice of your own let me guess it was very important to me because I went through his program it’s a whole new program that was videos as you know cuz you’re in the videos but so there’s a lot more aid for teaching men and I’m running man through this program I now that I found this in again when I was part of the pickup seen and he was at some some he was speaking at one of them I don’t remember how I ran into him but then I kept running into him like every single week I would go to event and they were all different events that when was The Burning Man event and when was it Astro van with a pick up a bed and was like who is this guy Destin I should call him and talk to him and I went through his program and I became multi-orgasmic so it was like wow I read that might actually work and all of that and it didn’t work but Justin’s program work and now I’m not like a coach like now I am authorized to teach his two other men because he really breaks it down he went through 6 logical Body Works which I actually also went through that trade-in so I see where it comes from I see the roots for it I see why it works and how it works and the bottom line is it works it’s like you can take a man run him through this step by step program in at the end he he’s pretty much has control over his orgasm and it worked for me and it’s working for the men that are going to the program I know it works I mean he’s done it with hundreds and hundreds of men so that was one official training I got and then and another training I got is was why is blueprints with shock yeah I mean that I learned about Jaya Jaya to Destin one of his podcast actually I had seen joy around I seen her she used to promote our books at different events different sexual advance and I would see Jai I kept seeing her also but then I was listening to an interview that just ended with her where she was talking about what she called The Erotic Blueprints and I was in another relationship where I was bringing all my Tantra training in my you know I gazing into this relationship and I thought it was great you know I was having orgasm but the woman wasn’t and I thought well am I what’s wrong and then just kind of said there’s Blueprints and I’m unenergetic like that’s why I love this time. I happen to be an energetic and I can I can really tap into that and I can have these incredible experiences but not everybody is an energetic and then she said then there’s a sensual there’s a sexual there’s a kinky and there’s a shapeshifter and I realized while the woman that I was with was very sexual and I’m sexual also but it was not my primary blueprint so I was speaking to her as an energetic like expecting her to have the same kind of contract experiences but she wasn’t a wire that way and and then sometimes she would just like to just want to like you just want to fuck and I was like what I want to connect first one I gave you like really just want to go there right away so now I’m learning to speak the other person’s language and understand my own language and the woman I’m with now super super sensual that’s why she loved that couch I get because it was all about taste and smell and sound with all the senses so that really turned wrong because of who you was designed to be a sensual experience we’re all over essential were lit up and I know how to I know how to speak the language of a sensual and one of them is example making sure for a sensual if things are out of place if dishes are done at the house is dirty she can’t drop into her body she can’t really experience orgasm so for me clean up the houses is for play because that’s what my that’s what my partner wants she wants all that stuff out of her head because the sensual will get into their head start worrying about stuff and then you know of a few years down the line the partnership is not working out they’re not understanding why they’re not there there they both think they’re having sex but when is having one is not getting their energetic fed and the others not getting their Central fat or their sexual fat so learning the blueprints was like to learn that I was in energetic like blew me away because then I realized it is a thing in that it’s not weird to have these orgasmic experience is just looking into someone’s eyes but it’s also know it may not be the way another person the person I’m with name me not experience it the same way and I can’t force them to have that experience I appreciate that work that was done. Can you say kind of from your training and where you work with her and Emma studies of for blueprint I’m not aware of the podcast before I don’t have it on the top of my head, the backstory of how how she would describe the the process of discovering these beasts different patterns do could you say something to what what to your your recollection is like her kind of backstory around that if if you would let me hear backstory things I mean her backstory she was also sexological bodyworker which is we all have in common me giant Destin we’ve all been trained by the same teacher Joseph Kramer and sexological Body Works and child learn after hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours working with couples that there was different couples were turned on by different touch like the man might be turned on by certain kind of touch and the woman might be turned on by a different kind of touch and they weren’t the same so the man expected the woman to respond the way he was responding and then just started to break it down and realized that a sensual is turned on by a completely different sort of touch than the sexual is and they’re actually if you want to know what your blueprint is if you go on my website you can take your who is there is emails that you’ll get I will explain all the blueprints so my website is in-body awakening.com which is e m p o d y m body which is hard to spell under the dash awakening.com hopefully you’ll have this written somewhere so it’s a for sure that’ll be on the Awakening., there’s a quiz on the bottom you can take the quiz for free and then you’ll get emails that looks plain all of them it’ll tell you what your blueprint is and then you’ll get emails at hotel look at 5 different emails that will explain the is the superpower of each blueprint and the shadow side of each have a shadow site to find that out and then again yeah go on the website take the quiz and then you can book a session with me and I can talk about how how you can implement this in your sex life because the blueprints is just one part of my program cool alright well thank you for sharing that and also I think it’s a great point to make that people who have been in this field in this movement and its industry and have done that level of work a game that sense of Mastery and then these emergent properties of being able to distill these kind of macro counter and that’s where that that wisdom and in comes from is that that richness of experience so I appreciate your hearing about that and I know there’s a number of other systems that people have developed to categorize various kind of powder and sand and styles of relating and there’s love languages that you know all kinds of different different metrics and tools that have been developed to kind of self analyze and solve correct and in in an ad so glad that there is more of the sexual and Amore essential systems that are being developed and so yes and then after that now where does that where does that bring us to within in your historical chronological timeline are we getting close to where you’re at now or where was there more happening before we get to the present but no car now what your you can go into the details of the the rock your cock program it sounds like it’s probably drawing on all the influences but that I don’t want to skip over anything before we get there so yeah what where where else what else do we need to cover it to get to the present read marriage I started to want something else got involved in the pickup scene from their got involved in Contra through Sachi on and then became a hypnotist it so it is it’s not like this happen overnight is was 10 years and then you know traveling with Sachi on and seeing these shamanic having the shamanic experience has started to open me up to this other world of that as an energetic at first I would have been like so skeptical because that’s that’s what the shadow of the energetic is it’s like because I was an energetic I was denying that there could possibly be everything have to have a scientific explanation and everything we was bullshit and Kippy and you know I’m coming from the punk background you know those hippies like I had but that was my shadow side because I was actually completely once once I got opened up and started to experience things myself it was like boom I’m in energetic I can feel energy I could I actually have these experiences that I can’t really describe in that not everyone has to believe know if they don’t believe it that’s fine I’m not going to try to convince anyone all I know is I’ve had some incredible experiences so so it was from pick up Tantra hypnosis and then then starting to find the teacher including traveling to Canada traveling to India going to Peru having different a Mexico having different experiences and I think my primary influences then became Destin enjoy shampoo mentored me and taught me their system the system of sexual self-mastery for men so men can become multi-orgasmic and the the blueprints which is like the love languages for the bedroom and what’s nice about it is I can teach this it’s like this is exactly what the pick up pick up Community says I could break it down I could teach it plus I had hypnosis to it so like a high anchor in so you remember the stuff and in fact I’m filming a whole I’m feeling a whole Erotic Hypnosis thing in the middle of filming at we have it work where I put my partner and she’s never even done it before on film where she becomes she has these just from listening going into hypnosis you basically has hypnotics orgasms and I put her on the bed in a hypnotic BDSM session I teach you guys how to do this so this is my own stuff that I’m adding offering a lot it’s like 10 years of all of these different trainings come together into my one Rodger cock I survived that sounds great siding and I can’t I’m jealous that you that you got such a great name for it I got it how did I how did that slip by me all this time you noticed it’s funny it’s funny cuz originally and have more of like a mask you act like I was masculine and Power Man in and he’s kind of names and I just said no fuck it rocks your cock cuz that’s what men want you know even though I’m teaching them spirituality and all this other stuff that’s not going to get them excited rock your cock it’s like yeah because that’s the end result I’m offering the end result rock your cock and that means more than just about getting your cock it’s not about getting your cock hard it’s about showing up as a man in his masculine energy and it is feminine so it’s like I’m being done being sneaky cuz I’m also teaching men to be in their feminine to to be in their heart but not going to get him in the door you know what gets him in the door is it’s about your cock about being a man and it’s about showing up in that way but in order to do that you need to embrace your family and you need to be able to have have experiences trance-like experiences which again you can do through breathing which I teach to help self hypnosis so but yeah the name your cock cuz that’s the end result income for the Shiva and you stay for the shock to you no thank God it’s it’s it’s Punk is Rock You Know rocks you rock it you know it’s it’s about showing up in in in in playing her instrument and just playing it however the fuck you want to you know you don’t have to go and take formal lessons in in school you just you just rock it because it’s natural I love that you. That’s it what’s the point right to get to where things flow naturally and you’re not fighting anything and you’re not having to count all people who are more than the more I guess you could say the the less edgy the less sexual the less explicit but the more kind of family-friendly Orthodox Temple Tantra experiences are going to be a lot of ritual as an end in techniques and tools that that are about you counting beads and Counting chance and getting using all of these Scott all the scaffolding and all of these handrails sort of to build the capacity to have full attention in your body and then eventually you are less reliant on on those techniques and it just you just like a martial artist it’s just there when you need it and you just keep time keeping that refresh so yeah I love that idea that I think we’re kind of stripping away layers of domestication we’re getting back back to a more and body Primal state where it wasn’t we weren’t overcoming so many neurotic not than patterns and things in and it would just be a more natural more that’s also the punk rock thing you know I would say as well as they shed this formalities boxes the first module of my program because it got to clear our our modern the roses and there are blocked because it’s like the about stuff like I don’t believe that any of these you can learn sexual techniques but until you get that’s why it’s modular like I teach Advanced sex techniques but I don’t teach that until you get past your blocks and learn how to be present to your body and your breathing and then again you don’t need to do all the fancy he learn Sanskrit stuff all you need to do is learn how to breathe and feel your body I’m stripping it down I’m I’m not I’m getting rid of all the do you know the esoteric because I know not again not everybody’s an energetic I want everybody to be able to relate to my program so I guess I’m not it’s not part of my even though I did all that stuff I’m not going to teach anyone how to chant in Sanskrit I’m going to teach a man how to breathe into their body so they can feel where they have tension in their body and where they can open up and start feeling their emotions thank you again for everything I think we’re about a good point to wrap up if you want to share some final words of advice final insides and then again where people can go to find your work yeah well my website again I already said it is in body – awakening.com and are they can take the quiz for free and then if you want it there to sign up for a session and when our strategy session where we can talk about how we can use the blueprints and how I can work with men specifically and I would put Township punk in the comments because I think that your audience is in particular audience and I would work with the men that come from this podcast different than men that come from another podcast so I would create an individual program although my I have a module program this whole setup is I would modify it according to my listeners and have a one-hour session with them so that’s embody – awakening.com take the quiz and sign up for a strategy session with me awesome well thank you so much man has been a pleasure to talk shop with you and I’ll still be able to have that a resident so I think sometimes people can lose a grounding this and that sort of bullshit detectors at the punk rock movement I think gives us a very good protector and I can tell that you’re upgrading from that place if a healthy skepticism in and also but open-mindedness to and avoiding Dogma avoiding too much too many rules and in too many I don’t think I don’t think you’re going to fall into the style of a cult leader or become a cult leader yourself in a in a bad way so thank you for your offer doing all that work you’re doing and for glad we got to have this conversation and we will be publishing this in the next couple weeks or so getting through a backlog of a previous guess that’s what I will send you the link and we will hopefully be able to talk more again in the future all right right on cool alright well thanks so much again and have a great day thank you. 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Sexual Self Mastery Training for Men: Behind the Scenes with Destin Gerek TPP195

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In this episode I’m joined by the most seminal and influential male mentor in my life path of tantra. Destin Gerek’s work really set me in motion back in 2009 and there would be no tantra punk had I not been deeply moved by his insights.

As destiny would have it, our paths would cross and we’d discover co-creative synergy over the course of several years. Our mutual aid of each other’s projects and passions resulted in my appearance in his sexual self mastery for men online training course.

To sign up for the course please click here!

We discuss:

  • his journey of personal exploration, research and development of the program, and what he has learned over the years of offering it
  • the behind the scenes of the production of the instructional videos in which I was featured
  • the importance of this work to advance masculinity
  • deprogramming from sex negative culture
  • the outline of the program modules and the theory and philosophy behind the practices
  • sacred set and setting without being too woo woo
  • how women need boys to become men, in bed and beyond
  • how men need to learn to heal rather than wound with their sexuality
  • the need for leadership and men’s groups to help the masculine evolve
  • my experience during the shoot, my intentions and hopes to help men become more conditioned for better love and sex within and beyond themselves
  • the future of erotic media projects we’ve discussed in the past
  • how earlier works in our careers may finally see the light of day

Please listen to our previous podcast at:
https://tantrapunk.com/the-future-of-masculinity-and-erotic-media-with-destin-gerek-tpp53/

Please visit Destin’s websites at:
https://www.evolvedmasculine.com/
http://destingerek.com/

About Destin:
Destin Gerek is an internationally recognized leading voice in masculinity, sexuality, and personal empowerment. The greatest power of Destin’s transformational work is that he embodies it. Destin has taken all that he’s learned, studied, and explored, and integrated it fully into his being, such that he really walks his talk. As host of “The Evolved Masculine: Redefining Sex, Power, & Success” podcast, Destin brings 20+ years of direct study, training and active life experimentation to help you have better sex, deeper connection to your masculine power and understand women and most importantly yourself like never before. Recognizing the need for new role models for men in these changing times, Destin is dedicated to redefining and evolving masculinity for the 21st century. Author of the forthcoming book “The Evolved Masculine: Be the Man the World Needs, and The One She Craves” due out late Summer 2019.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello their beloveds welcome to Township on podcast episode number 195 I’m being joined Again by Destin Garrick a masculine empowerment coach I want to be a redneck reference back to our episode we did a while back now called the future of masculinity and neurotic media with Dustin Garrett that was episode number 53 where we get deep into the backstory the personal history and all of that good stuff so please do refer back to that to get some some more of those personal details what we’re going to focus on today is a discussion of our mutual project that I was blessed to be an actor in and into play some important roles in throughout the process but the real Mastermind and the village is the brainchild of Destin Garrick and is the sexual self Mastery Program which I know has had many evolutions and iterations over time and I am proud to say that I’ve been apart of the the late revamp of that program and it is really one of the most for me a inspiring works of art in and of itself and again the pride I have of being a part of it is is really one of the the highlights of my my life and career so far and I have to bow down to all of those whose whose shoulders that we stand upon a nerve in our past and there and really give the floor now to Destin to tell us all about the history of this program the how it ties in with with his path over time and what you can expect from it if you were to Avail yourself so yeah but that said thank you again for joining Justin please tell us all about it you’re broadcast did you see me once more with your audience and of course just the incredible way in which you showed up during our filming of the sexual self mastery program which I’m going to want to see more about my experience of you during it at some point here but let’s start with the somebody Origins year I started having sex when I was somewhere around sixteen to strive 7:17 and like a lot of men my first couple of times didn’t last very long from there the to get the hang of things and my girlfriend at the time I just remember one time where she was riding on top of me and she started to go into some sort of orgasmic outer space Galactic ride I don’t know what the hell she was doing where she was going eyes rolling back in the head body shaking all sorts of crazy sound coming out of her and I just remember looking up at her and thinking I don’t know what she’s experiencing all I know is I’ve never experienced anything like that before and I want to so I started to explore and look like how how do I experience the and the basic message that I would find is sari candy you can’t yam Wildman have an easier time coming women could you do I explore find deep connection to their sexuality and the experience things their orgasms I are just so far outside of what man can experience and I don’t like the story and a few years later at 19 years old I came across a month like she undergoes Abrams Seminole book The multi-orgasmic Man and I thought I’d stop by the book of course came home serving it and I was like what is this I had a really hard time connecting to it you know it was a 19 year old Jewish white man in America and it was a 67 year-old it is man in Thailand and we have different life perspectives that experiences that was the first sexuality which had its roots has the focus on working with your sexual energy to promote Health and Longevity well let me just tell you at 19 years old I wasn’t thinking about Health and Longevity I was invincible I wanted so I don’t know and I’m looking at these diagrams of a man sitting in a chair and these hours to run up to his body about energy circulation room so I put the book on the shelf and I continued on my past of erotic exploration fast forward a bit and I spent my whole undergraduate years at NYU with a focus around six reality and gender Dynamics well and then start a graduate program at San Francisco State that did not complete I end up dropping out about six months before completion and went to the institute for advanced study of human sexuality where their certification place a logical Bodywork and through that combination of things especially the Bodywork training I became a I started experiencing an ini team about it in such a different way than the way that was described in this book that’s how I started realize I am regularly having experiences in my body that most men don’t even realize are possible and then I had a man in my life in my community essentially who heard about my newfound abilities and asked me to teach him and I was like I don’t know if I can teach you but he insisted and I started having a call with him every week and asked him a bunch of questions and guiding him in some way and within a few weeks is lasting long and they never laughed before and a few weeks after that his first non ejaculatory orgasm and then another one and then another one and another one and essentially and I’m just too much I might have something here over the next year I put together my first liked video training program been called orgasmic Mastery from premature ejaculation smell multiple orgasms and there was a 12-week video training to where we’re basically I reverse-engineer everything that I was doing in my body and started putting out to the world and people started buying and engaging and after about a year of working with people in this way I started to really question okay some guys are not getting very much from this at all and other guys are going from self-described 5 pump chump to becoming you know I’m feeling like I got totally ejected and I started out very curious as to what’s making that difference and I’m sorry calling up these clients of mine and interviewing them and started to get clear like what are those differences that really makes a difference that was 10 years ago so I had 10 years of owning that that process working with now thousands of men through the program making a better and better and better more more effective and you know how ever I also was feeling like I am I spend the first 7 plus years of it teaching people like me sitting in front of a camera talking to them and I got very good at finding the right words and stealing those those those little details that little distinctions of what they should be paying attention to what they need to be doing however I know that at the end of the day monkey see monkey do I just knew that as well as this is working the success rates going to go up when men can actually see what this looks like I just try to wrap their head around it but see in a man in multi-orgasmic States so I got a wish I mean tell me you have you ever whoever’s listening have you seen a man in multi-orgasmic states with all of our lesser of foreign why don’t we see that all right oh damn it then and I I you know through conversation with him I got this really on the staff is really done this work he’s he’s connected to this and you know he’s just he’s not just talk he’s he’s got this in his body I can tell you’re too I get it from the camera so we put together this this whole shoot it was a really incredible experience and we found something really remarkable bring in leg film artist you know folks are really talented behind the camera so that’s why I Look Beauty aesthetic in the art and I also need to know that most men are not going to want to sit and watch another man just touch himself or three months so I also brought in a young woman who has her path but who could be doing the practices as well and we could stay on both of them and interplay the the two videos over one another so that you can both of you were to see how this works in both body and kind of override some a homophobia stuff and I couldn’t have said it better and described it better and that is really it really touches me now thinking about how much refinement and how much thought and intelligence and work has gone into arriving at these very important conclusions about how to how to scale up and transmit this in and really solving that that home Cobia issue overriding that bringing in the overlay of the the female aspect was so Timmy so effective and I instantly got it when when you said that and made total sense to me how much of a deal-breaker will be for for men to sit for 3 plants watching another man touching cervix East Jessamine wouldn’t have a problem with it exactly so now and at this point you have done since that has formally launched in what we might call beta a while things are still being technically ironed out then you’ve had a a batch of initiate suit of experience the full Glory of that of that program so far is that about wrapping okay well do you want to talk about the from your perspective I would love to hear what the before-and-after is for you as the tea now with this this this new tool set the ASL teacher it’s which on the video of the in such a way that the end users in their room with them like speaking directly to him and it’s the video is split into three primary Parts there is like the teaching this is like me speaking to the viewer through the camera this is what you need to know the second part is you is the demonstration has been and Caitlin are female balance on doing the practices again you can see what they are actually like in practice in action we’ve been it often is a kind of advanced version of it something in the reason why I close sexual self-mastery is Master D is a pass this is not these other three tricks to do tonight to be the multi-orgasmic man is a path to walk to something to cultivate what are they now you got to like give it attention every day I’m so giving giving this attention your path of self-mastery using your own body you’re on patrol the as the grounds but you will continue to grow I mean most men masturbate many masturbate every day it is part of your life now for Moosomin arguably it’s stress relief it’s a sleeping aid it’s a distraction from the rest of their life or something or they do because they’re distracted by sex and they just want to like knocked out so I could get back to what they were doing before but it can be so much more than that but that was Jesus frases self-cultivation I in cursive men to develop what I call a practice of erotic self-exploration and this is the differentiated from your typical masturbation I’m already has the reservation at this is what I do because it’s what I do is how I get off and also no tablets are what they’ve been doing for years decades not like since they were you know an adolescent or before and those would generally done to get on with the prime directive of your parents home and you need to get this done quickly and quietly without getting caught this thing is chances are you’re not living in your parents you’re not oh maybe you should have it a different focuses than what you’re doing at 4 and we have certainly not having the kind of control that you really wants a hat and then could ask yourself if you’re still carrying something radio quickly and quietly without getting caught, what type of practice do you really think you’re putting into your nervous system how you train your body do you really believe it’s not having any sort of an impact on that how you showing up when you’re with the printer is I’m having flashbacks to how I developed and why I developed in win the first time in one of your one of your interviews were you made that point I realized how blessed I was personally that my mother was the first time the first and only time she walked in on me if she didn’t bust me for playing with myself she allowed me to get dressed and come out after she had shut the doors do you know if she saw was happening to shut the doors and she walked away and you know I I was freaked out and I was maybe ten 9 or something and remember it very clearly getting put in my my clothes back on and coming out and in and being crestfallen and shoegazing and and she gave me a hug and she said it’s okay that you do that and I was in and and she also spared my foreskin and when we talked about that at some point in my development she said I wasn’t going to have you be mutilated so I had a head start on the left stuff that I have to really thank her for it and so anyone who enjoys the work that I’ve done in this program or or Beyond we all have to get it to thank her for being enlightened in those ways and so I don’t say that to put anybody down Who had who has been circumcised or has been more formally shamed in their erotic self-exploration Journey but I would say it’s please let’s break that cycle now and let’s let’s teach this this sex positive mindset for the Next Generation so we can avoid a lot of the stuff but that’s just a little PSA there I’d love to hear you yet talk more about what is in the modules and sort of give us the Arc of the journey that that The Miz men are taking very well as a particular interest in touch the topic but I do believe that we are very well reach our dropping and and we’re going to see it in the years ahead of sense and maybe not having the right to take a scalpel to somebody else’s body when they are too young to be able to say yes or no to it phone cases that we’re going in a heart in our society and our understanding of things and going to leave to a major decrease there so could you did give us the Arc of the program just outline some of the modules what what is the journey like for those who are experiencing in I’m pulling up so that I get it right so the first the first video is really about deepening your commitments to this path into this program as I saying it is one thing to buy a program is no that’s a truly commit to it earlier this interview I spoke of how how I begin interviewing man of around why it’s just determine why some men are getting great results and some man we’re not and the foundational difference that made the difference what did the man really believe that this was possible and did he believe it was possible for him and so now as I came to really understand how big of a deal that that is really that’s sexual self-mastery I mean I really have to do anything you really want in life that I have needed a major Focus video ones really about activating that places in you at as a man that that can to really understand that the pain and struggle or loss of not having this area of your life as fully dialed as you’d like to and then to really cross that line into into a real internal commitment to doing whatever it takes to create a transformation to get the result that you really desire from there we bring in what I referred to as that establishing a practice of erotic self-exploration out of starting to build a practice into your life that’s like any other practice whether it’s a music practice of sports practice yoga or meditation practice sexuality this this has an interesting fact in itself because I don’t tend to talk about it as much as men do carry their own version of saying around their sexuality and what were essentially saying there is I’m giving you permission in fact encouraging you to set time aside throughout your week to touch yourself and that can be a little bit of a brain short circuit in the best kind of way is on something to drink furtively so they used to sneak around so that you try not to think about who you’re not supposed to be doing a Journal Sentinel time to be with yourself to explore your own body your own pleasure and discover new ways of experiencing arousal in your body I got to move forward faster because I’m video tuned S2000 waking up with full body so men tend to be very disoriented and if you want to teach your body that’s your entire body is part of your sexual experience video for is on types of constructs okay so here we talkin about exploring your body in new ways like what do you mean like myself differently I have to go up down up down I look at porn and then I talked your way we go straight on Ben’s Cox variety maybe 10 different kinds of Strokes that you can bring in to get out of your habits and experience something new then we move into breath breath is incredibly powerful foundational to move Sexual Energy so that charge that you feeling build up in your grind if you don’t want to just pop out you need to give it somewhere else to go to training your nervous system to be able to move that that intensity through the body through the nervous system instead of just staying in your groin and your breath is the first of four primary tools to be used to do so w introduced record a note for no ejaculation challenge hopefully I don’t scare you off with this but we move into a 21-day commitment you would know port and no ejaculation now that can seem like a really big thing or something that whether it’s a no porn part feels really big or an equal in a message to equals corn I would certainly like that for a really long time and then on top of that no ejaculation this is not no fap challenge sound like don’t masterbate infected it’s fleas yes touch yourself and when I can ejaculate and these are the things that we’re going to do instead so you’re essentially retrain your system away from the compulsion to ejaculate I’m pro-choice and most men are not a choice she still gets it’s something that you have to do if you get around so we Wireless vs sarabhai take me to 4th to the 1st intro to it Galatians one of those things that can be like I don’t know about that imagine see under a picture in your in your mind’s eye and we do this is we talked about like building a sexual energy in your groin or just start to play with imagining moving that to the body in different ways and we found which was very powerful and for me and learning to actually not just be the sower quiet dude while my girlfriend’s you know having crazy sounding orgasms but that by opening my own ability to make sounds during sex and with my pleasure for their help me move the sexuality to my body next video Round Lake how to navigate neighbors and roommates stuff like that is really a further exploration of sound as well as overcoming shame stuff with the presents and how I like presents as in being here like not being caught up in fantasy not being caught up in fears or self-criticism maybe I’m too maybe I’m too fat or too skinny or my dick’s not big enough or stupid or or your you know reciting her or him for the manor I have a really fully being in this moment like what is happening in this moment being your five senses when you see hear feel touched your taste and smell and this is where is a real passion comes from your not in your passion when you stuck in your head you’re not in deep intimacy with all the secrets likewise it’s only in that be present that you can feel those subtle Sensations in the body that will allow you to experience these choice choice full-body orgasm orgasm orgasms gives take ravish you know all these are masculine like Edward Yong energies batard are great and fantastic and you know we also need to learn about our Yen. That aspect of being received by allowing receiving pleasure having done to us rather just doing and that I I found that there are many men that who include myself a place whose first experiences of non ejaculatory orgasms came when they were on their back I’m being Fox OC where or receiving had for the matter where they can just put their focus into what they’re feeling in their body rather like feel like that tensing their body needs doing movement then we can be talking Arch has a lot of just like in out in out in out thrusting Jackhammer but really we have so much more available plus our entire body to move in every direction and through opening up moving in our ships in our spine could really but also is our limbs again this helps this Sexual Energy is being built in the groin move freely to the body and then we can also use our hands to help get more in the body to desk is a movement along with your arrival Explorations books for help rid of stagnation in the body and helping start moving when we go deeper into the visualization process how we can use these portals together breakfast sound moving end relation together to really gain Mastery over how to move that Sexual Energy out of the pelvis where he just wants to talk out of it and how do you listen and move it freely and easily through the entire body with for greater pleasure in your own body and to be able to last so much longer and to do her much better experience as well we have an integrated all together we introduce partner practices things that you practice with partner if you have one is the program that was a great overview really it’s I couldn’t ask for a better presentation and knowing it as well as I do now having been is intimately involved with it at this point I really think that is it’s important I’m really going to recommend that people listen to this episode to get that that 16th overview that really wraps it all together and I think anybody it’s been in that the time for the world for however many decades would also appreciate this is the Practical where the rubber meets the road stuff that doesn’t is not dependent on a guru it’s not dependent on buying into a lot of mysticism it’s not it’s not culture-bound this is the universal human physiological template that this this is what passes the scientific sniff test and then so that was my whole point with that is that you know I have nots really deep it’s the esoteric round I have died even to Eastern practices and Technologies and energy systems and all that jazz and I also know that most people aren’t going to do that I need to put a lot of attention and quite honestly took me years to find me ways of really grounding it out that’s that anybody even you don’t need to you don’t need to go to believe in any of that. And that that was a big part of of my focus Ray and then in the production itself there are sacred are elements of a Sacred Space design which hopefully is leaving people salivating for what is that quality is there is an ambient essential quality about the energy of myself the energy of Caitlin and just the of course the temple space the temple home space that we’re in and that ended the residence of that so it’s really I think that is what I hope will happen in in your progression in my profession is that once once men have got this these fundamentals fully dialed in then they will yearn for that that sort of cliffhanger about what is that what is the music doing what kind of music do I use what kind of router what where do where do I shop for incense and where do I or whatever it may be that that kid brings in the leveraging the spirit World in a way that isn’t wooer that isn’t I think that’ll be that’ll be another dimension to explore cuz it’s it’s really all there maybe we could have done this in in a lab or we could have done is it like it was a Masters and Johnson documentary or something but we did it where you brought all those the sacred elements in so that’s maybe something you know I’m sure nobody listen to this podcast is well. Nobody but people are I’m pretty woohoo I’m pretty you know about that but I love to hear you talk about that maybe more about the behind-the-scenes the design that went to at the Consciousness and the sort of quality of the space that you attempt to just I think that you master at sustaining in your own your own production environment shall we say are you asking about it’s what we are filming there’s there’s that yeah we could talk about just what people see in the actual frame and then and then beyond that the sort of what did what are some of Dustin’s secret tips on his Sacred Space design and maintenance Pasa Fino so we did for for the production we did put a lot of attention to creating the environment and I’m part of this is my attention to Aesthetics detail but also part of the the masculine energy throughout history has been as a the holder of space holder of a life creating of a container and so like me and creating a space in which things can happen and unfolding by putting great intentionality into into the creation of the container the greater magic that can happen so we we create a beautiful and sexy sensual environment we also brought in the right people on our crew for both filming and bake a sound and various forms of support so that we are all kind of sharing the same energetic residences we’re holding it the space together we all holding a shared vision of what it is being created and for yeah I don’t know first like we we shot things that I don’t know if anybody’s ever shot before so we need to make sure that we create an environment where both you and Caitlin could actually drop in so that experience could I mean it is actually I don’t think Caitlin every time anything like that before especially in front of a camera crew and all these all these people and a lot of attention need to be put into making sure that that she felt safe and comfortable and he’s as well as long and drawn-out to have two for the deepest sensual and self-expression to come through and then again you did an incredible job after earlier consider what your did acting so much is acting to me stress is like a performance putting on something like this kind of fake and really what the environment that we’re doing our best to create would be one where you could put on something that’s so fucking real you know that it’s so authentic that’s so deeply intimate and vulnerable that’s maybe maybe is more than what you would do I completely on your own if nobody was present I don’t know I don’t know or like when you’re alone and I know that myself and the cameras are running it brings out of more of me and I can give it give it a certain I don’t know Showmanship you could say however more than that it is like I feel like I have seen happen to something that’s that in me that wants to come out that that’s it gives me an excuse and permission to show a more fully and that’s that’s why I fell from you that that you were deeply in your experience and showing up fully and sharing with us a practice that has accrued since we were mostly male true not entirely but mostly we were looking forward to shooting Caitlin you know that 24 year old female but with that you were the one who you’re weird I mean we are collectively and in awe of you during this during this yeah there in the streets I’ve been in my practice in different ways for I don’t know like 12 + years and I side you got a deeper practice and I do just said that how clearly it was that you’re so committed to to this type of sexual self Mastery of exploring and understanding your your sexuality and using it as I don’t know it’s emotional practice I was really what came through to me and in witness and you those are probably the kindest words that have ever been spoken in about me and my life so thank you so much it is it is it is deeply touching to to be acknowledging that way in and I concurred with everything you’re saying and really it is it is such a gift to be in in a context now in the modern world we have these cameras in them that technology kind of amplifies a deeper more ancient experience of a dynamic with group sexuality and group arousal and the I made an analogy of the other day saying by yourself if you’re basically what a banjo but in a group of people you’re you can be a hard if you know you could be part of men have so many of these emergent properties and so much resident come out that it really puts in a context and so it also that want once once I started getting into doing shoots and doing ceremonies in all of this more fun more social sacred sexuality stuff it then that’s when you really go okay now I learned from other people what they were doing and I like that with that like this I didn’t like that and when and then there’s more of a motivation when you are by yourself to be conditioning and training so that at your next opportunity to not just be a ham and perform and try to steal the show but really just to show up and contribute something to assessor sexual potluck that you’ve really you really bringing your highest best and most purified self and if that is the name of the game and that’s really why I feel that this this these practices for me or are really so about that mean when you say devotional for me it’s like he has some devoting to the Divine I’m sacrificing my my shadow element’s and energies to to those deities who would who would digest it for me and then Purify Me and really it’s so that we can I guess In-N-Out in bringing their practical senses so we can have more freedom from the ego and more play time with adults you know and then to have our desires wildest fantasies be fulfilled by people who hurt really understanding and Cooperative other in that just seems to me the reason for the season why to do all the stuff not just so you can be a better self lover or a better lover with within a close couple but hopefully so that we can move towards and evolution where were we are asking each other what’s really troubling us and hurting us some what we could all do to help each other feel a hell of a lot better and so that’s that’s what that’s I guess what what my when I think back into why what was brought out of me and what my we’re really intention is with all this is like we really we need to feed some starving Souls with this this Prana and thus the sexual content and make it more more abundant and less scarce and in so we can share it and it can go to heal those wounds that it did it really can do magic and miracles healing and I know that’s a big part of your path to and that’s something that I think would say way to my next question for you which is how are these evolved men showing up now with women and what are the women saying about how this refined cultivated energy is helping them heal and not just have more mind-blowing orgasms but actually heal that’s where my driving force really comes from I don’t talk about it anywhere near as much when I talk about sexual self-mastery usually if I tend to focus on what it is that man’s really what most men are actually driving for which is they want more and better sex they want to feel like a competent lover are probably the best lover she’s never had and like he’s not just at the whim of his biology but that he’s got two choices and so that’s that’s what I’ve built the program to deliver but in the process can I hear the phrase around like I give you what they wants all of the kind of can slip in what is they really need for sure so yeah I mean this whole program dizzy rewiring of male sexuality the me-too movement if it’s been any things that giant mirror to us as man that’s maybe we’ve received some slow flawed programming when it comes to our sex and this head this program yet it’s a it’s women women wants a man to actually be able to steal her to feel what’s going on for her and to be able to respect her her body’s needs and Truth is and some that feel it’s been largely missing from this conversation is one of the reasons why men have such a hard time with us is because they don’t know their own body they don’t know their own needs they don’t listen to the messages that are happening from within how are they going to do that with another person and so that’s part of what ends up happening in this sexual self-mastery process is the man does get in a deep connection with his own body she does come to listen to things that are happening in his body that he otherwise is probably completely unaware of and through developing that subtle awareness it becomes so much easier and natural for him to awareness of subtleties of what’s going on for her and to react accordingly and that can be a profound and deeply healing experience for her all again you have a way of making of the stuff that to me is off and way too far out and unrelatable and making it so so grounded so relatable and something that I think any sex educator on Earth any anyone who administers to me the the catching up we have to do in the United States with some of the progressive policies happening in sexual public health and in public service were going on in places I know there are there are European countries that have Pro masturbation Outreach pamphlets and then there’s places in the world where you will not get fired as the attorney general for suggesting that masturbation is a good way to to lower a HIV transmission and whatnot and interesting thought is that have you in your I’m sure you’ve just now that now that this iteration it is is reaching the point of being ready for Primetime roll out and brainstorming about Foo how and what Serta marketing efforts and strategies that both of us are going to have you know I have full disclosure we’re running this for my minor as an affiliate commission sales deal for me to get this out there so if I can if I can beat Destin to a sale I will get myself a healthy chunk of the profit so I’m incentivize to get this out there for and widen and honestly this is going to up my game a lot because now that this exists and I can participate in the the profit sharing then I’m going to aim much higher into the the it with the podcast it to reach up into this higher echelons of of men that and this is affordably and reasonably priced I must say and for those who are who are abundant at those levels I’m going to start bringing those people on the show cuz I know they all have we all have this sort of Skelton deposit but but back to my question line of questioning about have you who who would you who would you like this program to be purchased by let’s say at the institutional level you know would you like this program to be quote-unquote in the curriculum of various sex education institutes and and non-profit ngos and things like the the Woodhull foundation and get it submitted to academic conferences and where would you find this having a home Beyond just the squeeze page sales funnel get guys to the you know to park my tiny thank you for the ideas I definitely want haven’t you know at this point I’ve decided long ago to use business is my vehicle took for a change in the world and I downloaded the more of that I create and I’m able to bring in revenue from sales of whatever it is the more resources I have to create even greater things and on and on that side so you know I’ve just add focus on what else I can create and what types of boy other business people and yours can I partner with to help get this out but as far as foundations and such organization to be the value of this need even add pieces the day that they would like to see as well again I mean I think it’s I think it’s pretty widespread understood that this point that’s there’s something around the culture of men and how we relate to our sexuality that is in dire need for an evolution and upgrade and you know women are certainly making that clear demanding for the change and the like multi-orgasmic Epiphany is he could say I was in a relationship with an incredible woman who was deeply connected to her feminine and her expression as a performer types of circus girls sometime stripper she really wanted me to be more in touch with my masculine that I was in at that time I’m in my late twenties and she sometimes encouraged it but much more often she demanded it she made it extremely uncomfortable for me to be anything but that and on I didn’t like that at the time it’s either side is uncomfortable however in retrospect it was an incredible gift for me it did evoke change in me discomfort like you know men have experienced quite a bit of it over the past year-and-a-half transformation one more comfortable nothing is a change this is fine more uncomfortable and increasingly uncomfortable we can hit that point where I’ve got to do something I cannot be in as I can’t be in this any longer something has got to give and change happens Zillow Zella a lot of the voices that are coming up in the women’s empowerment aside right now or are quite often not quite often the are on the demanding side quite often they are and they looked like this is not okay and making things extremely uncomfortable and I I just want to say that it took me awhile but I really did come to a place where I came so relate to it as a gift it forced me to look inward if forced me to see what what what is often mean what it what what is the value that that I can experience from actually doing the hard work that’s you know it can be so resistance to doing the do the hard-working and grow and I did I did girl it’s sparked something in me that’s never stopped you know now I’m turning 41 on Friday to few days and you know I like 13 is that relationship and it left such a powerful mark on me because she made it very clear like you got you got to stop being a boy and you stuck into being a fucking man I need a man be that man and I learned how to be a man and forever grateful well that none of such a beautiful story and what a way to take a poop this hour and I think if we were a kid too hard for 6 ourselves Brothers out there we all know that we’ve been we’ve been voted a few times and had to question whether we’re we’re getting our male archetypes from so that Minds me I’m getting a bit of a flashback here to just kind of come through clothes now so do you want to talk about how this this program fits into an arc of of other modules of a of a program that is the evolved masculine past and what else you have to offer in the the what else you offer in general and and how this program fits into those other offerings and then I will get your websites in and close out all you probably recognize my life’s purpose and the anyway so I had in addition to the sexual self Mastery Parts I would say that there is three major areas thoughts of me and the company that is spelled p Volve masculine hours have been around a sexual self-mastery area is going to call evolve masculine empowerment again we’re at a time right now people speak of the crisis in masculinity men use women are rising in their power and too many men are either married or resentful discover a what a healthy evolved masculinity is and what are the aspects of our of his own relationship to self the way he thinks about himself as a man that actually is Old Blood programming and time to let go of and one of the aspects of masculinity and being a man that are actually really worth giving more attention and strengthening deeper and then it’s a really Envision a version of yourself like all your evolve Master creation imagine a version of yourself who has become the evolved masculine man with a healthy integration of you in a few minutes and then what do we need to do to help clear that Gap from where you currently are so where you are fully embodied in living as him the third module is what I call a understanding women in the feminine again like a lot of men don’t really understand women don’t really understand what’s going on collectively or the particular woman in their lives plenty of women will Hurd lived experience so you can show up in a way that’s not about losing Anythink in yourself yet too often we speak about these things this is this it’s a zero-sum game that’s like that men and women are in the battle of the sexes and one of them is going to come out on top and it doesn’t have to be that way you know there is a way in which we can Embrace her rise in power in a way that actually inspires us to become more what we’re capable of bb-8 see yourself more clearly and rise up alongside of her so she can heal fully mess it what are intellectually emotionally sexually spiritually yeah we’re we’re not there it’s a nice ass bending but actually becoming more and I process awesome and I can say that having done the on-site group fully present Retreat modules in the in your evolve some program I can speak from experience that the there is no there is has been nothing more unifying and empowering and and evolving of all words for me than sharing a space in the end I know every man who every man and go see that is got to feel some degree that sense of wishing that this this retribalization of the masculine would never end in that we would never break from that that core of a shared strength and shared understanding and and having each other’s backs and and supporting each other and having that very very very real and enduring open space so if you want to pitch that it for a minute just the different ways that that you can Show Yourself there’s the saint beasts online programs and it private coaching group and all that so what is the C-section so if you’re a practitioner coach in somewhere by yourself and you work with men whether your man or woman was named where we run a evolved masculine leadership training to constrain certified evolve masculine coaches once a year I believe next movie this fall the sexual assault Mastery Program itself I believe we’re using evolved masculine. Com which is the base where you can find everything I’m in Flash FFM sexual self-mastery will it will bring me to tell Paige to learn more about that and how you can get that in as well I think that’s been clearly uses direct link so I can finish him and in that process and are otherwise different some reason you miss that let me know you found it through this pain cancer through the we are in the process of developing a an online evolve masculine membership community so this will be a low-cost monthly membership community so that’s bringing together 10 remaining connection with one another and continue to receive value where we can create things for for you all with myself directly as well as the wide range colleagues and guess that and I bring in a monthly so that’s I believe we’re going to be launching that somewhere around to three months from from the time of this recording so and it’s April now to some sometime this summer began evolve ask alarm.com so you can just shoot me a message through and reach back out to you roll up another call with you to see what direction is going to be most appropriate for you and and without you can just get it onto my email list through any of any of those pages so that you can continue to be outside we’re here for you awesome well is there anything else you would like to share any words of advice for me on Facebook with Dustin gyrich revolve masculine and prayer for you always want to remind you that that’s our sexuality is it is our Phalanx Peds beautiful Alexa your your masculinity has power and Beauty in it as well and there’s yester sinks the intersect on hands and the best ways that we can I grow and spines are away is in the AC is with the support of the other men who are on a similar path you are just as committed to help hold you toward your highest you can hold you and your vulnerability while also continuously calling you into a deeper strength that’s where you’re at where it’s available to you never stop exploring and evolving yes I’m okay actually won final bonus round if you have time for it final question would be if we were to let’s say you if you and I were to collaborate on a another project either within the the big tent of your brand in your program or something within my realm or someone else’s production realm what would your fantasy be of what we could do together next to them in the future you don’t creating when I called conscience erotic media just two studs are our poor and model is not that great you know I know see my own path that we have so much more available to us so much money as possible as soon as you would have so much more pleasurable actually for both of us and one in like and and you know I can’t learn to my various experiments that I’m actually really good at producing address two dates as I know but I am getting some signs but the pieces are coming together and you know I don’t like to tease you too much cuz we talked about this many times but if if this does come back together and then the near-term of course you’re at the Forefront of my mind been and you’re at the Forefront of my mind because of this whole time I thought you were talking about you were going to release the secret files from back in the day that you’ve done with the some some lovely Vixens and also synonym for an elders and I don’t know if that ever doesn’t ever see the light of day but Friday videos to to somebody in New York on his test week early ones in like 2011 and they’ve held up really well. They still look pretty freaking amazing and still look utterly one-of-a-kind like unlike anything I’ve also seen out there again at the further kick in the ass to me that on that we’ve got that we got something we need to do something with it yeah maybe it maybe it was a time capsule or something I guess I’m I’m learning that lesson in more ways than one that the I’m really looking back at this in this is just maybe a side note here but but also has something to to close on with a Vibe it’s just that I have to be so I just feel so thankful to the energy of my youthful energy and and the application of that when it was when it was there an as the Arc of masculine hormones the The Arc of just our lifespan and energy levels I think you and I really made an end run when we had a lot of we still have a lot of passion energy but but there is a quality of it that invincibility of it that not thinking too far in advance and just getting shit done and now we’re really being able to curate the museum that was our youthful projects and that is very interesting and fun and they’re still so much that both you and I can do in front of and behind the camera but we both have some glorious moments that I just managed and so hopefully we will we will get to enjoy that stuff and we will appreciate that the Divine timing of the great mystery and all that too so we continued he and I continue to get older and younger we shot and create some really incredible things including with each of us on camera and that’s on now that’s now that we’re older more established maybe it’s time to go back and find ways to put those together and create something but can go out into the world in and indeed indeed will good Cliffhangers in great stuff all of this stuff is so beautiful and so amazing to me and it’s been it’s been yeah it’s it’s been a while since we’ve talked and hopefully the next time will be sooner rather than later and we’ll have great news to share and things will just keep snow falling in a really good way and I also thank you brother it is been great to get to know you and connect with you and it really is an important moment that that we’re in now with with this program and I can’t wait for the next adventure to a full then just want to be a wish you a wonderful rest of your afternoon and I wish you the best thank you my friend to you as well as for being bring me into the apart of the sand again everyone I can ask alarm.com Hutchins check out the link slats likely attached to this podcast and see how soon thank you all right take care of bye bye thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at target.com Thomas Day

The How and Why of Semen Retention Part 2 with Courtney Garner TPP145

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In this episode I’m sharing the audio from a recent video shoot I did with Courtney Garner where we discuss the how and why of semen retention as a follow up to our previous podcast:

https://tantrapunk.com/the-how-and-why-of-semen-retention-with-courtney-garner-tpp104/

It was great fun to be in each other’s presence and share enthusiasm for this vital and under-represented aspect of sexual health, wellness, and empowerment.

To work directly with Courtney please visit her website at:
https://www.absolutetantra.com/

About Courtney:
I’m a fun-loving Practitioner who’s great at laying it out so you get it! Helping clients find practical ways to integrate the practice and make it work, is my priority. I frequently work with men on issues like porn addiction, sexual dysfunction, and disconnection. I’m also a huge meditation advocate, teaching kids and adults the foundation of a spiritual practice.

As a nurse, fitness advocate, and Tibetan 5 Element Healing Practitioner, I have a holistic view of health and an expanded approach to healing. Using my Western medical training and Eastern healing practices, I provide a fresh voice, for ancient practices that give results now. My mission is to support the growth of free minds; free from fear, judgment, pain… I work everyday to change the world, one mind at a time.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin their beloveds welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 145 I have a audio recording from a video shoot that I did recently with Courtney Garner of absolute Tantra. Calm and we did an episode a while back called the how and why of semen retention so I’m going to add to that with this episode where we extended dialogue in the in person discussion and we got some beautiful footage it’s also on my website under the videos Tab and so you can check that out and she is a amazing wonderful practitioner of Tibetan tantric Healing Arts and she offers a lot of amazing classes and meet ups and Retreats and really appreciate that you said working within a lineage that Devi Ward one of them I believe that the main superhero ends of the modern tantric healing movement they work together and they’re both are continuing a beautiful lineage so please definitely check out Davey Awards work as well with that said enjoy the show thanks so I I’m a coach that trains actually I teach them attention on so I’m a woman teaching men how to retainer Steven so Ben is actually packages himself and he’s a man so he’s going to give us more inside on inside on doing the practice how it feels how things have changed for your body how your sexuality has evolved because the practice so yes and I have my teacher also as well I have my own way of teaching everybody’s different so it’s beautiful to connect into also commiserate and what he no deal with the different challenges we all have to face and so yeah anyting what what what what do you feel like would be good for your students and fans to motivation for a man to want to learn some region that is a good question I’d say there’s a number of them so it’s hard to choose exactly the top but I would say probably first and foremost the jealousy and envy that I have over the level of ecstasy that women get to experience almost effortlessly the right amount of sustained attention is there you know where there’s from Steven pleasuring one’s self pleasuring yourself and having a deep ritual toys or crystals are Yoni eggs or Justino manually you really don’t expire there’s a fair for me is a man that sense of depletion after spilling my seed it’s like the party’s over and I feel like I’m a party pooper by myself or with with a woman and certainly wouldn’t have been able to discover the techniques to be able to rise up to the potential of what sort of out-of-the-box the female physiology can can can have just almost for free that’s it’s a lot of work but the payoff and the reward and that the motivation is that you do get to go into those really deep Altered States orgasmic trance states that last forever and ever and you know the next priority to that would be to be a better lover in to be not only for your own sake to have that experience but also to to actually meet the the the desire that a female partner has who is kind of boring multi-orgasmic if you can be there and I show up and man up and help deliver those experiences and it’s going to really improve and she won’t be faking it you know she won’t be it won’t be a struggle it won’t be that cuz the thing that makes it so frustrating and sort of unenjoyable and making love is the idea that would say the woman is thinking oh God I have to force myself to get to climax as fast as possible because his Chariot might turn into a pumpkin do you know any time and so I had to 7 minutes to be that guy she can relax more and experience more and go there and be fully fully sucking all of you in as a being when she doesn’t have to worry about oh God I got to hurry up and do my thing otherwise I’m going to miss out and then you as the man if you’re thinking oh god I’ve got to think about dirty socks or grandma or sports or whatever you’re doing a locker room buddies told you you’re not fully present to your potential pleasure so both of you are kind of checked out and you’re in this race and you’re not fully present so I see those are the two biggest that’s the sort of the the pleasure part of it but then there’s all the health benefits there’s all of the Dinos from of the Chinese perspective it’s really a practice of of preventive medicine and also has just so many subtle energetic benefits for just overall Health and Longevity and in their system you know it’s very clear that you have a declining amount of gene or Sexual Energy so you got to pace yourself and you know there’s different systems of measurement and there’s different intervals and some some schools and traditions you have different beliefs and opinions and and Medicine behind it but I say everybody’s an individual and you can find your sweet spot but certainly the it doesn’t come for free once you get a little bit older you know me when you’re in your teens and early twenties you can spill your seed multiple times in one evening and won’t even matter if she may not even know and sometimes you can stay even fully erect and release and stay erect and in that case you know you’re golden but that doesn’t last forever so use it wisely enjoy it while it lasts I mean you have to become more of a master of yourself and really pace yourself at this stage you know in my late thirties now I really understand how passion and purpose and drive is so intimately linked to the amount of energy that you’re cultivating and holding onto and cycling and circulating up into your heart record so using is like a furnace or you know the power plant to finance energetically this higher the higher chakras and ideally you want to plan your release and have strong intentions around it really make a magical ritual to manifest cuz when you do if you spill it accidentally that’s one thing but when you actually have a purpose for it and you’re offering as a sacrifice it’s an energetic sacrifice of your most precious magical you know biological elixirs that your body produces so if you’re going to have the intention to form of life to create a baby you know that’s a powerful intention it can be ritualize and really blessed or if it’s to create something non-biological like a job promotion or creative inspiration or an album or something that’s the really intelligent and wise path of sacrificing in and really planning and making a SAT Word would say a semen party out of your your release in visualizing yourself in the last thing I’ll say on that is dead what I’ve noticed as I’ve aged a bit is that you really feel the difference like this almost like a hangover a post ejaculatory kind of hangover and I even I think I might have coin this term post ejaculatory nihilism where you start to actually go question what you’re doing with your life and you forget about your goals but when you build up that charge on like passionate if I holding my seed for a while I put so much passion and purpose into all the things I’m doing and of course you know it keeps you aroused and it keeps you horny and it keeps you excited and that whole post ejaculatory nihilism or when you know guys the withdrawal emotionally all these depressive chemicals can come out and so it’s good to cuddle afterwards too so you keep toxic close enough so those are just that’s just for me that’s with right on the tip of my tongue to share about that whole subject so no pun intended in a nutshell that’s my perspective do that I thought was really funny because special for guys who have never tried it so kind of like a totally different experience to a different idea of sexual energy of orgasm and that’s the whole point when you practically retention it does transform your relationship with orgasm with Sexual Energy with sexually as a whole and then in turn also helps you to have more compassion for women for the opposite sex to really be able to empathize with connect with them as humans because you’re not coming from them as I’m a man your woman it’s like hey where humans are tapped into myself emotionally I talked to my sexuality and I’m happy with it and because of that I can honor and see see yours and respect yours so it’s really a practice that holistic the transformational not just about having longer better sex or more I can orgasm definitely a wonderful part of it right but even just sex the reason we want to stay in that Union longer is to read higher levels right we’re not going to get too far in 5-10 minutes and orgasm but she probably won’t and then that’s outside I really understand why Ben says you feel like the party’s over if you do exactly too fast because it’s it’s snowing over for you but it’s over for her too and that lack of choice in the matter that you know bring some pipe in ballots to to the satisfaction so I’m really happy when men take him to that their responsibility to hone in on their sexual energy to have the desire great destruct self motivation to want more for themselves to be healthier to be happier cuz one of the things that I’ve learned attention is just talked to her in general I practice Tantra right so just the practice in general really empowering because it teaches you that you don’t have to suffer you don’t have to have low energy low libido you’ll have to be a slave to jacking off the corn and disconnecting yourself in your sexuality you can fix it there’s tools there’s people that know what they’re doing I could help you we’re here to help each other help each other. A better life on the earth that we share together I’m so always know that you have the power on if you don’t have the tools you can get them by the power is definitely inside you and for me I want to talk to you a little bit about me as a female practitioner working with men because it is a little different it has open me up personally to be understanding of men personal trauma that they have to deal with a drone set up negative conditioning that affects the dynamic of men and women write the patriarchal set up it’s a set of conditioning 7 trauma that men have to deal with Professor both be happy North Board of first album Mutual Mutual happy life here on Earth as a one minute it’s helping to open up two men not having the space to the emotional I didn’t know that right as it as when we kind of fall the same societal lines of men are aggressive and not too emotional that’s me know if there’s anything you don’t know how to express train in touch we are humans we both have emotions we both have the ability to get in touch with them and when we can do that when a man can’t do that dresses NACA wake it up you notice today or they just not might have been right heat and when we walk around with you got the key to the heart and so will you guys can learn from us is just tapping into that feminine energy that he that is a big man energy and what happens with are the way that we set up our men in society being hard being you know much or not having emotions as we take away turkey because you’re human but you can’t have a kid you don’t get to happen to it in an address your emotions and process them and feel heard but we’re changing that you guys were changing that going to give him space to heal we want them to be open and see retention is a practice that changes a man’s perspective it really expands it just from sexuality being a genital Center thing now it’s like six what is like part of my existence like how did I get here sexual energies what’s my most powerful force of creation Sexual Energy so are seeing retention Factor start and helps us to learn to harness the energy use it for transformation use it for healing music for happiness and pleasure and we all deserve back where you guys are a woman pleasure and orgasms and all that what are we going to do for the penis and happiness today if it is the Enigma you know how could it seems impossible right but how could you possibly control that how could you separate orgasm from ejaculation it’s like it’s like impossible but hey we got to split atoms and creep mass destruction weapons of mass destruction weapons of mass queuing and in love and miss you guys for skin intact if you make it easier to rise to the occasion and that’s a whole nother subject but that’s part of it so whether or not you have your cut or uncut you know you have a different road map for her progressing on this path and I’ll see you know as being uncut I have the blessing of having what you can call practice vagina because if it’s able to Passaic it doesn’t get shaved it doesn’t get sort of beating up throughout life do you know and it protects the sensitivity so I I do kill that family connection more grab my life and I’ve always felt that night I didn’t have to suffer that immediate trauma of just feeling butchered at Birth you know that’s really a tragic thing that we overlooked and it’s responsible for violence and culture is in Warrior Coulson just all of that is all that stuff so wherever you’re starting from with that you know the different world map like I said but it’s something to be honored and respected him and understood what are some of the ways that you get people started off I’m going to give you guys a few tips to just get started on reconnecting with your sexuality but this really what I seen your attention practice does so first thing I always say is slow down slow down is a big thing that not just sexually but everywhere we need to do right into practice slowing down because if you think about your going to take a walk through the garden you run through that Garden you’re not going to do any flowers Fountain was there just ran to the Garden but if you just slow down and take a walk through the garden you not only get to your destination with his which is orgasm we want that right but you’ll be able to really enjoy the pleasure all the way up to the orgasm flowers smell out of that so I invite you to slow down Savor your sex whether it’s with yourself or with another person favorite I’m just so much more pleasure to be had when you just be present in that moment I was just kind of rushing through it to this this instant gratification and that’s just part of our how we are these days this instant gratification is a big thing right B can Google anything to get information as soon as you want I’m communication we can pretty much contact anybody anytime you a lot until we are used to getting things very quickly so think about you orgasm your sexuality as something that is secret write something that you want to save her not to be so no rush through most of the other one just slow down the other two would be if you guys are using any outside sources of stimulation so so using foreign heavy visualisations I invite you to try and just bring that down bring your focus from your head or whatever religion is outward bring it in words I’ll try focusing on your body what do you feel how can you with your even your own hands make your body feel good what do you like so I invite you to try those things reconnect with your body with your pleasure and then see how that expands your sexual experiences with others or just expand your connections with your sexuality so you can you know you got quiet down to listen to something so this is just me telling you guys to be a little bit more quiet so you can hear what your body is saying do that let me know how it works. I love the idea that the heart chakra if you do put in effort to open at your kind of creating this magical magnetic Vortex that will suck the energy up so that feeling of your getting to the edge and you’re going to explode from the genitals actually if the Heart is Open it’s going to alleviate that pressure and it’s going to create a nice flow and it’s just going to naturally drawn up and into it and then if you can transmute it and bring it up and up and up into the third eye and Crown then you really do know cooking with grease you’re really because yeah we do want to connect a heart chakra with her sexual Kirby gray I’m going to connect those two I’m so yeah. When when you are riding to the top fires going to hot and ready to cool the fire down I think breathe in and out from the heart and that does it pulls the energy up to here and when you breathe from your heart it helps you just dissipate through the whole body so you’ll get that that Sexual grasmick Energy not just in your genitals but all over your heart your fingertips your feet so that Thing You Do arrive to that beautiful magical moment it’s a full body experience exactly any luck came to me is I’m going to step into my man I’m putting my manhood hat on right now and say For All You’ve machine heads and motor heads out there think of your heart as the radiator and your breath is the fan in that in that vehicle vehicle is trying to get you to the level of where your partner is at already you going to get in your hot rod and you’re going to fire that thing up and turn it on and you got to have if you don’t have a radiator what happens with the steam coming out of the engine you know what I mean is laughing YouTube Van running hot radiator and breathe add PVC I’m getting the tools to me sucking up and sipping up that hole for a Man Out say that you’re reeling them and Tom Sanskrit ligaments the word for penis and beans Wanda flight so it sounds really good right you guys want of light Sacred Space is the only so those are really pretty words that using your lingam as a straw to drop energy so you know if you were in Union with a woman you could sip her energy or Essence through your link up your body up your channel on your Center and then you can pretty much send that to your heart since your head at the man is really really aroused I used to tell him to pull it all the way up to his head and how to get the throttle body help from some situations keep it flowing everything you know this is all a replacement for our normal habit of holding our breath and so what we’re doing now instead of just like you know going to the orgasm for saying hey relax ride the wave ride the wave of orgasm cuz that’s what it should be like it should be something very relaxing something pleasurable something that you can just fall into a balloon we have sex now a lot of times it’s very picky coaster ride you can have a lot more pleasure beat have a lot more enjoyment feels like a nice sweetie right right a serf that don’t you think about what you think about something weird dirty thoughts are genetically and when you’re in your head you’re withdrawn energetically from your body is so we can feel that so if you’re if you’re with her and you guys are proven good and you’re about to come and you want to stop in your life we feel that break for severe able to kind of just take a breath. Up maybe to slow down or stop your your stroke but still keeping the moment these present in your body with her it’s a totally different experience to keep that connection going it’s not fixed this pause you have to take a nap to build back up your arousal connection and I’ll save him experience the more practice you have practice makes perfect of course you know you if you’ve been coached any sport or anything it’s like that it’s okay in The Mask you hyper masculine world I don’t want to call toxic with the hyper masculine world to say you expect that you’re going to be drilled by a coach and you’re going to be you know you’re going to have to practice over and over and over again no other aspect of self-mastery would you expect to Just Master out of the box but for some reason we’re so you know condition that we’re supposed to know everything and do everything right the first time and put as much effort into becoming a sexual artist and loving Artist as you would a martial artist or a sportsman or whatever so you know that here we have who else to inspire you to want to walk this so we do need more connection and we do need somewhere that’s emotionally available to talk about his feelings and I’ll be able to hear hers is one thing that happens with relationships as if you’re not emotionally connected in touch with your emotions and how the hell you going to hear mine and I know what I’m feeling right so do it for yourself and also do it for future relationships in order to have a really good connection in order to have intimacy you have to be able to do that with yourself and I know we have the stigma around anything self write in just the selfishness of self but really there’s no other there’s no other stores have to come for myself yeah Justin Moore’s the more you love yourself the more of a full overflowing container you can offer and share with other people so that you’re not sucking energy away from them you’re not a vampire you’re not super needy and totally week sexually and spiritually if you love yourself and your overflowing abundant than you can you know it’s the misery loves company and happiness loves company to so so any other thoughts just to kind of give this teaser to get people excited about it for the guys out there no matter what age you are but know a lot of younger guys will say they like there’s nothing wrong with you and really does not yet but healthy Sexual Energy strong maybe if you have multiple orgasms but the natural process of Our Lives is overtime those things are going to change and so now you have the opportunity to get yourself to a certain level we’re in your younger days you’re on already at a good at a good place now you can just max that out at in your view that have the best experience that when you do get older they not deteriorating as if no Hazard normal to start to deteriorate and so like you said with the the Chinese wear jean runs out over the years so I should become older it’s hard to get back up to Baseline you’re going to be struggling to even feel like you have a strong sexual cheap I’m so now it’s like hey you can get not only hear FaceTime you can get above that and just stay here and that pretty much makes you invincible if you guys think about it like that means you’re you’re not as not susceptible to age muscle deterioration weakness brain cloudiness I’m always things are affected by our declining Sexual Energy I’m an excess ejaculation but think about your help for sure if you’re an older man understanding that you still have the apartment in the tools to have a strong Sexual Energy even if you have gone through the natural process of it declining where to get back up to that that since I was strong Mojo can still do it just takes diligence it takes practice and it takes this love for for your yourself look word be sexual energy that is your power if you don’t do it like that it’s just can’t really motivate yourself without heart heart right like you need hard so do it for yourself do it because you need it and also if you have any Hang-Ups around you know I don’t need to know anything like I know what I’m doing I know it was know everything you’re doing and you need to put seatrain we never were trained so there’s there’s a certain base light of knowledge that we were denied a shame. I love our whole lives so now you have it available to you so I encourage you to take that knowledge for yourself for a better world and also you can spread that to Future Generations we don’t have this passing on any more negative conditioning button help you have it at about semen retention and saving your seat holding onto your juice and so yeah it’s been it’s been grand and again you know there’s a percentage of the world who likes to learn these techniques through watching the videos that I put out online and but I think there’s a greater percentage of the population that would would probably rather do this work through the educational Works in materials and coaching of this beloved goddess here Courtney so please Avail yourself of her teachings and I’m always here for you too and yeah with that will close with the time to Kiss and Say Goodbye thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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The How and Why of Semen Retention with Courtney Garner TPP104

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Courtney Garner PicIn this episode I’m joined by Courtney Garner, she’s a certified tantrika with training in the Tibetan 5 Element Healing  system taught by one of my heroines and previous podcast guests Devi Ward. She shares her story of transcendence from an unsatisfactory relationship and talks about her professional integration of East and West, having a background as a nurse practitioner before becoming a sexual and spiritual healer and educator.

She shares some heart warming success stories of working with clients who have been able to radically improve their love, sex, and spiritual lives with her help.

We discuss the how and why of semen retention and get into some edgy territory around female empowerment, spiritual sisterhood, and the ways men will need to “man up” on a new level to catch up with the rapid rate of sexual consciousness evolution among independent women who are claiming their power.

Please visit her website at:
https://www.absolutetantra.com/

About Courtney:
I’m a fun-loving Practitioner who’s great at laying it out so you get it! Helping clients find practical ways to integrate the practice and make it work, is my priority. I frequently work with men on issues like porn addiction, sexual dysfunction, and disconnection. I’m also a huge meditation advocate, teaching kids and adults the foundation of a spiritual practice.

As a nurse, fitness advocate, and Tibetan 5 Element Healing Practitioner, I have a holistic view of health and an expanded approach to healing. Using my Western medical training and Eastern healing practices, I provide a fresh voice, for ancient practices that give results now. My mission is to support the growth of free minds; free from fear, judgment, pain… I work everyday to change the world, one mind at a time.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township hunt podcast episode number 1 0 4 I’m on Skype with Courtney Gardner who is an authentic Tantra practitioner she studied with Devi Ward who’s been on the country Punk podcast in the past is definitely one of my superhero Inns in the township movement I really recommend checking out all of her YouTube videos and podcasts and yeah really it’s a blessing to to be alive in a time with Davey doing her thing and so it’s exciting to be able to speak with one of her students who completed her training program and is now sent a country practitioner through that live in the age that that baby holds and so also she’s now set up her own brand and business in Southern California which is absolute Entre which you can check out at Absolute township.com and yeah Courtney if you’d be so kind to just tell us a bit about your your past I know that you were a nurse in that you discovered Tantra and now done all these training senior have great offering so please tell us all about it be invited to talk with you and share my path and my practice I started my first one and is leaking filling for me but I always knew that there was something more that I’m used to doing that was in a relationship that was busy and so I wanted to know if you leave from that I was looking online for a punta practice in my area and there wasn’t anybody that was local there really far away is delivered exactly what happened but baby popped out to me and all through the website and whatever I read with you I go to school and so my motivation seems to be getting my package was my relationship and mental freedom from enough stress and just busy mind. Certified it opened up so much more is it just blossoms my spirit I can just drive it or now her being a part of my life and be able to work with her at authentic Tantra that’s just I can ask for anything more let’s do so my practice my practice is I like to call and make sure of Keith Meets West because I’m using a Eastern modality the Tibetan Tantra that is if I don’t practice so that’s actually what that’s what I feel make our practice in our special that made it big packages that have been done for thousands of years and people have been living their lives on the top of thousands of years and getting the results of getting the healing that they need it is parked the Mason he’s so excited yeah we have this so I really appreciate that we have very ancient practices that part of my mission is to make it relatable because when I was going through some of the things I read I was just like what are they mean by that what is awareness those are things that you have to feel you don’t learn them just by reading the definition you have to experience it and that’s for me I had to leave that and go see that kind of struggle that growth growth process so much and I learned a lot of the how how is kind of like the the jewels that I get to give to a friend feel like that is going to help our a world like that’s that’s the big the big sister is really to heal the world we have a lot of pain we have a lot of drama connected with the Smiths on the earth and we need to discuss it feels really good I do it because I love it it’s a feeling and just making a difference in people’s lives oh fransson few days ago I have a client with him so he has to support him in his healing process and part of that is getting a great connection with yourself and awareness of your energy Body and Soul on the 12-week course he says his then he is already experiencing a writing part of my job is to teach people how to have intimacy and how to reconnect because it’s all I need and everything that we need to be if we already are that and is fearful path is the unveiling of whatever so I I really am honored to be honest app because I I have to I live it every day and it’s and it’s awesome that’s wonderful so do you want to talk about more some sort of kind of give us a tour of what you were offering his are currently I have the money for that program is definitely for for them and it will work for anybody that you can if you don’t have the flu and she was just taking care of yourself and your help is vital to your overall house so that is my I have that same thing it’s all about feeling it’s all about Awakening your sexual sensual and it’s and it’s also learning to use your sexual energy to heal your body is there a pop artist when it gets the most energy have to actually is about using that new another page on my website and they’re on selling Nation it comes with everything you need to get started and I also have any pot up a very important part of my creative creativity as part of my feeling a lot of different ones and and a and so I can have another thing that you know you can find out about on my website but that is that’s what I’m doing these days and the other thing if you guys was on the site already have died in that where you should go for the focus program whatever is reasonable or or within your agreements to share I’m curious if you could kind of your people and overview what you would probably have is as an overview and I are in a workshop to introduce people and get them excited about Tibetan Tantra and how it’s more more specific ways does change your life and and how it can help people with therapist functions and all of the other dimensions of transformation at that they can blossom into with it what preventing tonsil with such a two-part special is the five elements healing system and write five elements are everything that we are made out of it’s so pleased that you heal our body through meditation so when I have my workshop but there’s an intro to Tantra for the things that we will go over is the concept of the energy body cuz a lot of people don’t know about it it’s not really talked about in Western science so that’s definitely something that we make sure that we work with that energy body and are negative energy in your body that can be hindering you from pleasure it could be making you feel pain make you feel nice and so what I’m feeling is about is about clearing we are conscious connection and that’s what the goal is right that we are all heading for the big idea the orgasm so what that means is we use that that moment of orgasm if you are practicing in your sleep for more than you know to Second what size 5 Seconds 10 seconds 30 minute people do it for several minutes so just maybe these potential is beyond what we think it is beyond what we can imagine and the practice that we have in place is to exercise to bring it to full fruition that is a what could be a better outcome than extending the pleasure of orgasm as a spiritual practice for a night meant nothing that feels better than that is mental Bliss physical Bliss you’re just clear and happy and everything is great with the world and if you think about how you feel after you have sex this is our just you all the time I can give you all the time to feel that good all the time and that is our potential that we must embrace it’s it’s kind of like we have some kind of guilt around being too happy play no part of arguing is accepting and acknowledging that yeah we have that potential to be happy and be having pleasure all the time and that’s that’s that’s our Birthright so I really I really push that I really tried to educate people and advocating for themselves when it comes to relationships or Army our bodies so that’s definitely part of the message that I was trying to spread awesome thank you will have a similar path also seeking to empower folks to discover their infinite orgasmic potential and there’s there’s a lot of debate and I guess I wouldn’t call it controversy maybe you could call it controversy actually but the the there’s different approaches to the reasons for and the intervals and Adoration of and the techniques for the this ever-elusive yet so simple and practical and and beneficial semen retention lifestyle so that was actually how I discovered your work is that I was I’m signed up to Davies mailing list and I watched a recent video that she had done about that subject we talked about it in the interview I did with her and on the side YouTube your recent video came up and I watched out of Mike right on more voices out there yeah putting in yen in different words so do you want to kind of give a your rap about that why the how to in the benefits and all that good stuff to incentivize people physical practice it’s a thing that you can do for your physical Improvement but it’s also transformative at something that they might not getting that connection with yourself is what project out the other one out that’s when you can approach people with a different energy with a different confidence but if I open this posting retention is it’s a good remedy for not helpful for men with premature ejaculation and erectile dysfunction I’m part of that is because ejaculation is the reason that a lot of men have issues relationship and the other culprit of that would be so you have corn out there it’s everybody’s watching it and you have men masturbating to porn all the time that creeps is very big gap in this connection with their body and also which translates to just their partners and they’re trying to be intimate with them and that just as growing when they continue to do this even if you feel like you are you’re fine you know you’re fine but if you happen to have it someplace where you exactly doing beyond the frequency that your body can recuperate what is that then you are defending yourself and it shows right when you guys are done and that’s all that because you’re you’re discharging your sexuality your energy as well as he Jacqueline which is just packed with nutrients semen is just like you know all the baby better if you think about what is your body going to get all those music from to make more better it gets it from your body until you have your your body is pulling in some other part that just make more semen because it keeps getting you know and why does your body want to do that survival our instincts are so divided and part of that is for creation right yeah it’s a sacrifice so use it wisely use it or lose the nutrients until 6 weeks is on your overall health your current habits your sexual function for men to ejaculate right on yes so I guess I’ll all kind of play if you don’t mind a little bit of role-playing as client you know to give other guys who are may be new to this or or I know you don’t have a lot of people who I know her I’m approaching this as a Jedi Knight initiate and it’s something that they you know they want they want to figure out how to harness the force you know and use their their want of light literally to exactly yes so some of the questions that I get or or just this this unknown Journey having faith that there’s there’s these powers on the other side of the the discipline guys have this preconceived notion that that blue balls is is just a force of nature that can’t be overcome but as you would know that circulating energy and doing breathwork a massage and actually applying some of these principles and practices you you effectively bus that myth you know don’t bust a myth I mean don’t bust a nut by the group Asia is that something that you’ve encountered where we’re guys are like but I’m going to go crazy or I’m going to have blue balls or something out all they’re going to still up and it’s like if you think about it like dude you’re jaculating too frequently for your body to catch up so no you’re not going to fill up a Pop berry likes going to take forever if that wasn’t so yeah so what I called is like the sensation of maybe like a stuck orgasm because it’s so it has nothing to do with your fluid that’s been retained that’s your the energy flow thank you for collated and you can literally believe you ate that you know through breathing breathing in public for exercise so do you want to text me some about that it’s there’s more than just what you might find from sort of Western sexology around doing Kegel exercises there’s actually more there’s more visualization and there’s more meditation there’s more of an esoteric component to it that it’s mystical but it’s also a scientific it is as much as it’s magical mystical experience very methodical and practical so you know this everyday I’m teaching I’m doing the same thing teaching men how to hold back and it gets easier and I’m just wondering if you have some basic pointers for four guys that are interested in the past h&c how long do you want to be happy healthy and having sex is that that relates to everybody no matter what path you on everybody has a general idea that yeah I want to be happy and healthy for a long time so in order to do that you need to maintain your help you need to pay attention to that part of your body needs to feed it love compassion need to exercise it energetically and physically so it’s it’s like guys aren’t they can get obsessed with working out and going to the gym but you are complacent with you know if you’re okay with having the penis that doesn’t work and it makes you feel bad all the time so it’s a six pack of my PC muscles that’s what she want to have it’s more important really but it’s true and that’s what you got to take care of but you can feel it too I mean if you if you know that it’s a big difference you can tell if someone’s doing that work I’m male and female but certainly it’s it’s ya will be great to for there to be Fitness competitions that to measure that level of Fitness for sure this is wonderful that this paradigm shift is is yeah that you know you’re like you said in your approach East-West in East coming together and no pun intended yes I like the the part of our practice that’s so practical and it makes sense to us based on what we what we know you know what are our little fact that we have it makes sense but it also makes sense energetically and we just feel that energy is not fat but not things that you can read it’s all about feeling with intuition and that’s that’s what you have to fight for yourself hey so get another another key Point here at like to get your perspective on this the it’s if you were a man who listens to all the pop music about women wanting to be made love to you all night long and I think Davy word one point I heard her say you know like something like man we want your penises in our vaginas forever there is this Market business mythology around having the sexual powers to last all night but that doesn’t really mean having sex and ejaculating multiple times and being able to start over again although if you’re younger is he younger man that’s it’s easier to do than if you’re you know if an older man but are are are you finding that women or Amir feel like this the potential of Tantra is it a can raise the standard for what women actually pre-qualify dating partners by based on do you have skill or not because why would I waste my time if you can’t if you’re sexually incontinent why would I how do I have a puppy already I don’t need another puppy in the you know so do you want to speak with me Stillwater women saying about this and how are men you know Manning up in words for that one we’re talking about our last vacation retreat how it’s it’s hard it’s difficult for women who are conscious and who want that connection was just want to feel emotionally vulnerable that are open that can talk about their feelings that are in touch with their emotions and it’s hard to find and it’s frustrating sometimes part of my men is more and more loving compassionate emotionally available men for women that’s what we need a r t i feel like women in our place right now in society we are strong we are independent and so we have different needs from a man we can take care of herself financially weekend you know everything for us so we can go to school and take care of her kids so what we are looking for in a man is I need that connection with somebody to make her feel like they’re inside our soul you want us to make love to you to read watch videos and really go after that makes be motivated to do that for yourself because otherwise you’re going to keep doing things at Cabot and that’s making the disconnection even greater right I’m so glad you you put it that way because I consider myself under the radical feminist spectrum of all this stuff and I’ve gone to Great Lengths to try to get perspectives on this podcast where it is really it’s really a critical time for fermented wake up and in and understand exactly everything you’re saying it’s about how in the old Paradigm you could just be a tyrant and an oppressor and just treat a woman has your fuck doll and never even care about what her what’s going on with her and it is just getting off and wham bam thank you ma’am and the political economic shifts that you just laid out very clearly with your lingo but that’s what you want to make love to a woman and like just make love to her fucker great her he can get away with a lot of shit but don’t don’t take that too far gentleman if there was one thing yeah so what it what I hear you saying then is you know figure out this stuff first and you don’t get your everything else can be this is the main deal breaker it sounds like and you can kind of gives a little bit of a patient about certain other things but this is as women are getting more empowered men of God so now you like it’s limited like hey I deserve just as much pleasure out of there just as much orgasms actually I’m getting more than you and like so why should I short myself like why don’t I deserve it and receive any quality in Bruno longer accepting it up otherwise I don’t know now we really this is really exciting because this is I mean I wasn’t going to go there necessarily but since you brought it up feel free to speak about this but I feel that the you know it is a male Tantra practitioner it’s sort of like you become it’s like you I don’t know if I feel like I’ve been trained by the CIA or something and I just can’t relate to people in the general population because if you can blow people’s minds you you better choose wisely because you don’t want to take someone on a journey they’re not ready for a spiritually that they haven’t trained for themselves and so does it’s a totally different Dynamic and I kind of feel like it’s a it’s a there’s a lot of scoundrel males who just take this new power they have and they use it to hypnotize and mine fuck and abused and manipulated and you know now I’m now I’m feeling your daddy issue rolls and just all the stuff so it’s like a black hole Vortec of a real black magic really in and so my strategy and now that you can share it with you and get some feedback from you since you brought up that that key factor that I I’m trying to work on his basically that I’m more interested in having female Seekers get initiated by other females discover their orgasmic potential and to achieve their sexual spiritual enlightenment internally in their solo Tantra practice but being held in the community of Sisterhood so that this so that that sort of priest is class can involve the sexual consciousness of women and then they can have a higher standard and they’re not coming to me as a wounded child and I’m being projected on from all of their issues and then I’m going to be tempted to manipulate that psychological weakness for my own gain and that’s what makes give Tantra a bad name throughout the world is that Dynamic so are you how what I have I’ve been working on my sort of strategy to empower the sexual autonomy of of women in in sort of witch covens if you will and you know I think people are afraid to own up their afraid to but if I had if I had to choose one word to describe Tantra I will call it feminist sexual Witchcraft and if that doesn’t scare somebody away then they’ve come to the right school but if that does scare away then you know go back to yoga go back to you or the kids yoga class I want to hear it definitely what experiences you’re having things to do for the women listening can we just amplify that that incentive to to seek Sisterhood in this path new newer for me than it was before I learned Pancho Villa part of my opening up was to open up to other women and to do that you have to open up to yourself and you have to release yourself of that that competition that jealousy and was like I can’t even tell you there’s no work for it but you you need that meet at 4 because you also have people to have bounced off of as you tumble through this pass is not something that you scroll down movie create after I ever got certified I went to school and you leave you leave Elite certification was song of the group of people that are on the same server Pat and a friend’s family but the safest place you could ever think of what these people and so when you get back home and get that you know now because you’re not a people talking to you like you should be talked to you in people treating me like I should be treated so what you should do is create your own sphere Sisterhood your own Tsonga at home do it from whoever does your best friend if you have to go on a meet up if you have to you know go online and find somebody that’s interested in the same thing you are just do it because you the spiritual path alone it’s hard it’s really hard and it doesn’t have to be the same people that you are going to adopt into your Sisterhood there are going to be just as grateful to have you as you are to have them so yeah I definitely encourage that I’ve seen people who come into a retreat before we go throughout the training and have them and they sent their closed off and maybe they only like girls that much like I don’t have a lot of girl friends best friends with all the girls you love them that your sister has your Chapstick so if you’re finding it hard to open up open up in in find The Sisterhood you have to really look at look and see what you’re scared of what are you afraid of inside of yourself that you might experience with that and realize that they’re just reflections of you especially if they’re on the same path yeah everybody needs some support and I feel like you should not short yourself of that right and based on everything that led up to this point in the conversation why would you be competing over subpar men anyway is that right what were you fighting for so that is an interesting there’s a few a few more Dimensions that I love to explore with you if you’re willing out on this which is that it’s the benefits that I’m witnessing women in their Sisterhood of Tantra together with the benefits that I’m seeing is it there I guess this is an over-simplification but I feel like it’s been useful when I tight when I’m encouraging women friends of mine in specially ones that are wanting to in interacting engage with me an intimate manner I’m wondering how you feel about just the idea that when when women are getting along they can so much more effectively satisfy and nourish each other’s needs for emotional intimacy to a point where they stop trying to get squeeze blood from a stone cuz sometimes men’s heart chakras and must have really been working on it long time you’re not going to get them to listen or pay attention or be empathetic or be sensitive cuz they’re too busy watching ESPN or barbecuing or whatever like just watching guys punch the shit out of each other and maybe they’re good for things like hey honey could you go lift that heavy thing or grab that thing that’s really high up and like fuck the shit out of me when I feel like it and tell them I’m going to be having ammo Joe Anthony Missy with my sister girlfriends who I don’t fight over because we see our natural biological and emotional Darius a superiority am I am I going too far strong women is really is kind of like you don’t feel like you need a man it just happened because that nourishment is there and you like yeah I have everything I need but if that’s all you need that you can just get that did not from the women that are in my life until the last couple years it’s just the women there are in your life will support you more than any man that’s in your life just being together and that’s yeah awesome well that’s the that is the glory that I’m I’m hoping that we can achieve because yeah it’s people are afraid of matriarchy very afraid to let go of that sense of what they’re used to patriarchy so it’s closed off emotionally and so and this is why people who did they look at Tantra and they say oh it’s all woohoo it’s it’s not just some fluffy I mean this is very important practical from people who have like they have an idea already of what do you think they know and what you think is true and so the idea that you have an energy body like that’s not in my books I don’t know that in school so that’s magic that you made that up. Got out of your head and into your body and start to feel and a weekend that since it’s already there you’re not going to go find anything new with your ability to be aware of it right well and that brings me you know back to something I ate I want to touch on if we can your you were a trained skeptic as a Western Scientific nurse practitioner so you were even more credible as a believer in the time should I because you have done methodical training and you’ve had to really tune into the physical body and and the anatomy of the physical body and all of the the measurable aspects of physiology that would be required to be a successful nurse practitioner so you want to talk a bit about how that training has reinforced and sore complimented your Township training and how it feels physically oh my word how people behave how we in Western science we cure we three elements with your disease so I have that knowledge to help me find of bounce off my Eastern king without you and floor pattern help me relax and understanding the big picture and so instead of just having the Taj review I have the U of people that what usually go against photography and I feel like that gives me kind of the upper hand against the Skeptics to you in a way that you can understand that you learn your way but I’m telling you how it works on the other side so I feel like I am able to be the middleman in in a way that’s awesome yeah there this is this is kind of my dream is to continue the the work of medical research around specially sexual healing and what the before-and-after looks like when that those procedures are done and you can see the literally I think we’ll get to a point where you can weigh somebody in before a tantric sexual healing and weigh them out and actually yeah measurable difference is that something that you have dealt with I know that your baby is very outspoken and and about her and I kind of went into depth about that and I’ve heard Jack drouin story very moving story is a male Survivor and just wow I mean just if anybody is interested in Tantra and they haven’t listened to every episode of Davy words podcast I think you’re a lot wow right on well that’s amazing so then yeah do you want to talk about what what’s up what’s been notable for you as a practitioner around healing women’s sexual trauma and Men sexual trauma and all of the various forms if it can take if you have thoughts on that is certainly, I feel like there’s a Common Thread and that is a lack of lack of present and it’s the lack of presidents has the reason that you have like a peasant it could be from from trauma and you don’t want to be in your body that sometimes you know until you you’re not there making you not have orgasm so that’s how it kind of the big picture with with men especially with t e I’ve noticed a lot of stress so you have a lot of stress in the way that you would like to see you and that’s because you’re not you know you’re not into you’re not present with the sexual situation your penis is going to tell on you and it’s going to go down or if it’s a yes dress and that emotional trauma those are affected the way that our bodies function sexually and not sexually when we were when we have, we hold it in our body you can hold it in our Yoni and that’s all that happened with your system awesome well here’s this is another it we got a few minutes left and and I feel like another thing another area that I’m not sure I guess I I’m I’m more from I’m very interested in what your training is in and what Davies doing because I have more of a Hindu is that is that the crude term to use but I would I’d rather say I have more of the the time trick South Asian goddess worship template for for this stuff which is its really and there’s a whole sort of Forgotten and suppress Cult of the tantric yogini which was like the The Witch covens of the tantric did they weren’t just yoga practitioners just doing the body postures but they were actually even call and feminist revolutionary couples that we’re living on the outskirts so forth to Doc’s Hinduism and sort of outside of marriages and outside of the the dominant culture and they were doing really intense powerful goddess worship rituals in becoming channels and mediums and conduits of the Shakti energy and creating art and music and dance and ritual around that and really there’s there’s Scholars alive on the planet today who are trying to piece together the archaeology and the you know that the geography of of those Traditions spread time what is really starting to congeal more for me at as as one who sort of initiated in that sort of path is just the the power of not sloppy drunk in orgies or BDSM play parties per se but the power of the sacred geometry of group synchronized breathing exercises and sexual ritual that’s actually very well-managed and curated for maximum healing potential and sort of you know more logs on the fire equals a bigger flame but it’s also can be dangerous in a lot of ways and I’m wondering if you know a lot of people who are teaching Tantra now it’s about have a better relationship with your man or your guy or gal and it’s I ended the frontier of it is is to catch up to the swingers and the the king stirs and actually have more more sacred compositions or orchestras of group energy exchange I’m wondering if that’s something that you were at all working on or wherever for yeah I have ideas about a huge power I we did something similar to that Last Retreat as a group as a big group I don’t know if 1418 people and we did actually a series of Tibetan prayers or whatever you want to call the medication over one of our practitioner she was dealing with some thickness and we wanted to give her an energy healing and so yeah so that was something that I want to see you again it’s not easy to do all the time unless you have an organized group of people doing the same thing in your area that’s the way that I’m hoping that it’s just like teaching my friends the ones that are closest to me the speaker group right on I guess I have us question I have for you is have you ever seen the movie The Golden Child which was Eddie Murphy made a movie all about Tibetan Buddhist Tantra and it was an 80s movie that to you got to see it again because it is absolutely everything we’re talking about and Beyond and they even have well I’m not even I don’t want to spoil it but anybody who is interested in Nepalese and Tibetan Buddhist Tantra and they have happy to have these flashbacks from Seeing Eddie Murphy go to bed and practiced all these esoteric arts and there’s even symbolism around semen retention yeah there’s a scene where I guess I’ll spoil this one scene in order to get the Ashanti dagger to use to slay the demon that’s come to Earth do to Kill The Golden Child who brings compassion to humanity in order for Eddie Murphy the chosen one to be able to go to The Crucible test to get this knife the sacred knife to slay the demon he has got to hold a cup of water without spilling one drop and go through this obstacle course and then he has to question himself what to do with this cup of water because he can’t get through this flame to take to grab the knife and then it Dawns on him that he should ingest thus the water himself only at the right time and that that gives him the power to take it so it’s a very deep teaching about injaculation and semen retention and the powers of activation to happen when you don’t just frivolous frivolous they spill your seed so I don’t know what channel it’s amazing so yeah that’ll be on your 101 prerequisites absolute Township training for sure or your extracurricular activities yeah cool what do you want to talk a bit about what you have coming up and just again plug the website and let people know how to get in touch so I do have Bible on the 29th of April and it’s going to be in Costa Mesa California for you local people and it will be on your own yoga so I’ll have some have any but you can also get them online or bring your own but this Workshop is going to be just wonderful for women such as you if you have issues with your knee if you have numbness not having orgasms feel the same after childbirth you need to come this Workshop because it also gives you everything you need the tools and hopefully you leave with a new a new pack for Yoni and transformation beautiful and I will say I’ll say I’ll add to that and say that it is such a big difference from a male’s perspective to be making love to a woman who’s the only is is ripped you know because it is yeah it’s in this thing about o being tight but it’s really of dexterity and it’s like you know this is something I’ve been working on lately and I’m happy to be at the next level will they never even have probably heard about a dreamed about that that there’s a I’m very happy I have more Sensation that I’ve ever had in my life vaginal orgasms where I can have them before and it just feels amazing yeah yeah I just F I had to make an analogy I would say men you want to support your your beloved’s on this path because imagine that your lingam is is if it has the experience of being like a saxophone and her Yoni is like a professional saxophone player playing a saxophone with that much dexterity so it’s not it’s not ya the this it is a big it’s a big important Frontier of shift in Consciousness in to thank you for doing housework and benefits on on all for all genders with his so yeah well on that note I think we’ll call it a night and just thank you again so much for your time and I look forward to hopefully when there’s a coed or men’s Focus Workshop allow try to check it out or have you been to the year I know you’re close to the the goddess Temple of Orange County have you been to that that Temple but I don’t know where it is it’s in Irvine you be adored there and cherish tonight I definitely hope that a yeah you you kind of bring your nose area definitely cuz it’s probably some really close so there’s also a Kali Temple Hindu goddess Kali temple in Laguna Beach it’s been there for quite a while and they’re very much what you would call left hand or the right hand path or you know it’s not the sexual term sure that it’s it’s very yeah it that’s really the deepest roots of of Tantra there’s going to be no there is some evidence that goes back to ancient Egypt that it’s a man has shamanic roots in Southern India going back just so many thousands of years and and a beautiful truth about the history of it is that there was a time when the when there was Major conquest and colonization and repression and luckily the wisdom of Millenia were copied by scribes in Tibet and the captain on Brooklyn Asia thank you for being a part of that important work to keep the knowledge alive and yeah you’re blessed to be in in between I think you’re in between two of these deep rich Temple so hopefully you’ll be able to buy with them too right on it was okay thank you for bearing with all my Antics to is fun to be able to talk shop with somebody who’s on the Levelland hang out with you so cool alright then we’ll take care and have a good night. 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The Modern Day Sexual Man with Hypnotica TPP78

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Hypnotica Pic In this episode I’m proud to explore the raw depths of modern masculinity with mind scientist and men’s lifestyle guru Eric Von Sydow, a.k.a. Hypnotica.

He shares his experience navigating the sexual politics of polyamory in the sexually charged environment of gentlemen’s clubs and beyond. He’s lived the life that most men dream of and fantasize about and he’s developed training programs and resources to help others along in their paths towards sexual mastery.

About Hypnotica:
For 23 years now, mind scientist / men’s lifestyle guru, Eric Von Sydow, aka Hypnotica, has been inciting men to enhance their sexual well being. Recognized as the “Inner Game Guru” he has pioneered the field of male sexuality. As one of the “founding fathers” of the men’s movement in masculinity and lifestyle, he was an early mentor to now-famous figures like Neil Strauss (“The Game”) and David DeAngelo (“Double Your Dating”). Thousands of men boast success not only in their personal love relationships but also in their overall lives under his tutelage.

Hypnotica has recently released, “Modern Day Sexual Man,” a new mastery program for men. With ““Modern Day Sexual Man,” Hypnotica is laying claim to unleashing “the most advanced sexual techniques for men that the world has ever seen.” The components of the project are a culmination of decades of scientific research, relationship coaching, intuition and personal experience, designed to upgrade the modern man into a genuine “superbeing.”

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello their beloveds welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 78 I’m doing an interview with Eric Von Saito and we’re going to be talking about the modern-day Sexual Man program he also is known as hypnotika and has a very amazing and very rich background and in many different modalities involving healing sexuality in the arch of the mind so I can’t wait to have you Eric tell us as much as you can about your background and we’ll talk about the modern-day Sexual Man program cool well I hope that we have a great conversation we’ve already talked a great deal already so there’s some really cool things to talk about my story is I was a young kid, growing up fast but we just get them back in the day before the internet it was just kind of maybe play boys here and there and I was always interested in sex and we’re looking at it at least and I was not the best looking kid in the world I didn’t have a lot of social skills and I remember consciously just making a decision that this is something that I want to master that I want to really get good with and it was kind of my own journey and I Journey took me into various experiences in my lifetime that where I force myself to be in the presence of women in the feminine energy and twos to absorb it to be around all the time to really understand what it’s about and then bring it even to a deeper level of connecting more intimately with women and that goes all the way back to you know in high school started join the choir Kokosing my understanding is 80 girls and there was no that’s a good place to start and then I went to a show choir and then after that physical guy and after that I went up to Santa Barbara junior college and studied a little bit and I remember there was a girl who was a dancer and she used to ask if I could come along and just protect her and parties and stuff like this and that became one thing and that’s when you know I had some experience with the dancers I got into a strip club and for the last 23 years have been running strip clubs security as far as general manager of a little bit more extreme sexual nature and in that environment I was absolutely just to have so many different varieties of women and mindsets and sexuality and their energies and mindsets just to learn about and fireman you can’t not be sexually for tacious and I think sign 8 or so I was given a very cool or a created to agree a very cool half way to learn about what most guys don’t understand or get to experience so by me taking all this experience I was giving back and that’s where the hypnotika name come from his back with the internet was just the game it was a lot of places to learn about this and there was a couple group two that were there in that tire place near it my super name was subnautica if you wanted to teach guys or help guys learn what I was learning because I was learning in a rapid Pace that most guys don’t do when you have 3250 dancers exotic dancers if you please send you got testosterone you got different menstrual periods going on with women it’s a very intense learning situation and from that with what I was arrested in because you don’t back that I was a member I had a tantra book and I was going through it in high school and and learning about it this whole thing was to discover more of who I was at the time it’s been a very cool process that way because when I first started I have no sexual experience and I was plagued up until I was by I don’t know him in twenty one years old with premature ejaculation and it was just as frustrating as a man so the more I learn the more that I was able to give back into really going to go into these extreme areas to help man in and say hey you know I’ve walked into pathway I can understand it a little bit so that you can understand the territory or I can help bring out what I’ve learned to give to you so that’s been the path that I’m on and have it on and now I’m at the phase where I pretty much seen it done it all and it’s now it’s more of a time of reflection way I feel like I’ve kind of pass the Baton a little bit until I can more of the Elder stage and kind of looking back it’s like this is what my testosterone is like right now and just the ability as kind of an elder to give back and not be so inundated and just that raw testosterone while you’re not seeing the bigger picture now I can like look back in and really kind of key from my Amor experiential we’re being so it’s a very cool thing that I’m doing so that’s pretty much where I’m at and I’ve developed a lot of programs really specialize in men’s confidence and sexual confidence and giving them techniques and idealistic ways to think of how to be with a woman and new ways to think about how intimate and also just how to be more masculine I’m more conscious masculine man and step out of the old Paradigm and really brings the picture of more well-rounded Renaissance type of man which I think is very needed at the time especially where we’re at in this phase of evolution on our planet wow that is so I said I just D Palace to hear this really really deep I feel like the first thing that comes to mind is it pure spiritual person you’re supposed to be acetic in a lot of I don’t even call and traditions but a lot of authoritarian kind of anti pleasure anti-flash spiritual paths that there’s this taboo around being fully embodied in so that you have this throughout recent history this extreme segregation knows very sexually successful men and very special called spiritually evolved during night and then and so whenever there is a man walking the Earth today who can speak from having experienced abundant sexual adoration and worship and make an art form out of it and also keep his balls and be able to function on the physical material playing in and actually get shit done and it’s a beautiful alchemy that really hard to achieve so if if can I can we go back a bit into some of the chapters of your story so I can kind of get a better sense yeah I like I said I’m I’m just so interesting to me to know that this is possible cuz I don’t want to feel like that there’s like a Chasm between the exploitation of women in the adult entertainment industry and Tantra or sacred sexuality but that there’s there can be an Alchemy of honoring the feminine so it’s a very complex get simple idealistic way of thinking about that and a lot of people and maybe this is a gift that I was given to be in that environment of the gentlemen’s clubs in things like this I really got to be it was just that like intimate where there is a certain trust level annual bringing girls on no private parties in and looking after like I really had to be there bodyguard very intimate Avalon and the conversations that I was able to get into with women and and I’ve always have to build women up in that because there’s a lot of guys that are just ignorant and you walk around your tits are too small to Razor’s Edge easily overstep your bounds and a lot of guys once they learn a little bit of power of influence can become manipulative but it it’s walking that bounce where you’re coming across get your being open enough where they can do what they want to do and you’re not trying to hook up and what I mean by that is you’re not trying to get them submitting to you on that level where it’s lot of guys are with jealousy and things like this they want to control the woman and very interesting to have gone through that and to be in intimate places where you harbor freight shipping be intimate and what you were talking about earlier and about the sexuality and the purity of it believer absolutely made from pleasure and we were made for pleasure I mean that’s it that’s it’s built Within walkthrough The Root chakra and the solar plexus chakra you can’t avoid that at the most powerful ones that connect us to the Earth and to our nature and to be able to find that balance of giving love and any guy who goes through this and explores this is going to get beat up a little bit that’s the crazy thing like you think about cakes that is important you guys are supposed to talk about this is that I’m a man beautiful and tan trick dog in the world like that so if that full balance and it’s not going too much to the laughter too much to the right because I know there’s guys that are very on trick and they’re very feminine stick and agree but you know it’s like they don’t have that flexibility to go into the fiery masculine and so you know they stay there because there’s no polarity polarity and there’s no flexibility self the ability to keep a woman guessing as far as your own Sexual Energy on one level of the great that you could do that but you’re just in the tundra you’re doing the southside of that if you don’t have that Rod western-style to you don’t have that balance so it’s very complex that has kind of come through and it’s it’s been the last 20 years about this machine that a lot of guys you really step into the sexual well there’s maybe I don’t maybe 5-6 that I’ve studied personally rajneesh back in the day or show that was kind of the first start of it but it’s something that’s just so needed and especially the balance now because so many people watch no PornHub reporting so in their minds so that we don’t just think that it’s too far east side and that Rod dominant we’re being if you know you have the ability to be sexual you have the ability to be loving you have the ability to be dominant you have the ability to Be Frisky whatever it is hopefully this new man coming through is able to be okay with it in and not be shameful about it and we’re at about right now to degree because if you’ve seen a lot of what’s going on a man have to be the guy who goes out there and says you know hey how you doing that’s just the way it is a nature and be proud of it and we got to figure out a balance with the women that are like okay I don’t want to be bothered with every guy just stopped doing and and you guys got what you wanted you to be bothered you guys to get bored very quickly so where does very weird stage in and I’m kind of past that phase I’m going to marry still sexual but I’m not like in the face would like 21 or that’s just brought these younger kids if they can get this information and intent to figure it out because it’s with apps like Tinder and all these things there’s a lot of stuff moving on and even though the development of power a kid proceed like when I was growing up I had play boys I was okay how to play Boyce okay now you got a six-year-old kid on the computer going to the mines that so the best that I could do with my stuff is just lay down a super strong basic Foundation that I think it’s healthy and so they have a at least a century point to get to so these are kind of some of the things that I hope to help develop and pass on so that they have stuff to go from because we did it I’m so glad to hear you say that I feel like my heart is just a swelling because it’s unimaginable High terrific what’s happening to the neural physiology of with porn addiction note prepubescent humans on this planet I mean if it’s mortifying and I feel like if I were a parent which I’ve in this life I’ve chosen very young like I got a vasectomy and I don’t have any progeny and I’m not planning on it because I feel like some of us have got to dedicate Our Lives to do in the cultural healing so that the world is suitable to innocence again in developing sexual Rites of Passage and having like you’re saying and I healthy template for development that integrates 6 Rowdy spirituality and The Feminine principles and masculine fiery principles but we’re so lost and really but so many people are in denial about exactly what you just said so I just got to thank you for saying that I mean it’s a crisis and I feel like we’re in a science fiction John Carpenter film right now with was coming through with pouring and everything fake who’s going to stop the thing that we got to stop this from spreading and I don’t like the guy part of torn because the women have been brainwashed to believe that women in their photos like that’s their Worth or worse comes in their external looks and and it’s all about you no sex and you know what can I get an end and that is a scary thing in itself so hopefully you like said that we can live there can be some kind of balance because I’d say right now a lot of the women are out of balance to where it’s at in the middle out of bounds to 2 degree it’s weird to say this because I’ve been doing it for like 23 years it’s still in the infancy stage and hopefully the young women of this day can’t understand like they’re not just subjected to being a a sex object even though the sex is wonderful and and then no matter what are going to visually you look at a woman and she’s mathematically proportional and be attracted to that it’s just a very strange thing in Warren this is just kind of my mind Toronto is actually use it sometimes when I’m going out and I’ll put on PornHub for 5 minutes before I’m going out because I want my sexual pheromones to be activated so this is just a tip that I do is y’all watch 5 minutes as soon as I feel my body become activated like it’s like I feel like my energy are activated in and then I go out and do my thing and I feel like I have that energy so there’s good parts of it and there’s no unusual parts of it so it’s just a matter of I guess how you utilize it as long as you don’t deplete your energy is sit there and jerk off five times a day should a state that also for the record that I think erotica conscious erotica and pornography really even like the sound of the word it did I don’t know if it’s because what it’s been through but I think erotic Cinema and being aroused by it using it to expand your horizons and I can say is in a couple relationship again here are reinforcing if one person has a desire that they like to have met that could involve you know one or more additional people doing you know or it could just be I’d like to explore something will here is a visual reference to something and there’s there’s it’s a fraction of the total amount of points out there but there is at a holy see if you will like a light there is a light at the end of the tunnel which is not just educational boring you know instructional doesn’t have to be boring but it can be a way to Blossom Consciousness and to give people access and certainly for people who have non mainstream sexual preferences in orientation and gender identities than to be able to identify with role models who are doing something beautiful with a wholesome and loving and at least consensual you know and hopefully real then there is a beautiful I guess post porn opportunity for now that the it’s easy to produce something relatively compared to the 70s when it was more expensive sake then there will be a Consciousness revolution in pornography and hopefully we’ll be seeing a lot of the stuff that you’re teaching about so on that more hopeful note I have just a couple more questions about to gentlemen’s club chapters and then we can talk more about specifically what it is that you’re helping men do with your program so I was just living in Vegas for a while and I got kind of an inside scoop on a lot of into workings of that world and it’s been really fascinating to me and I’m really excited to get some insight also from you about how the politics and personalities and even astrology and like you said the menstrual cycles it’s such as an ecosystem of Egos and Flash and drooling men who don’t know what they’re missing out on having a really reduced flattened perception of what a woman is potential is was just shaking her ass or whatever it’s like you were being in that world I’m curious what some maybe some stories you know what were some stories they were really touching to your heart when you saw Andy women instead of a cat fighting competing they actually were building alliances and supporting each other or you know doing something positive and create or just some success stories or anything that can kind of give us some Redemptive juice from that world cuz I think it’s about to pour or repulsed by at 7 ish to Repose quite a lot of ways are they feel like they’ve got a really fight tooth-and-nail to carve out some piece of it to be empowered but maybe you have some insights it sounds like you’ve had the right mentality I don’t know you know for how deep you have these philosophies going back to that time but I love to hear some Redemptive stories or anything interesting she’s got her own opinion about what I do bring it down back of the women coming to how can it be a misogynistic Factor perverted they were called Temple dancers thank you you okay they end up becoming strippers through the the Puritans in the end the people that we were afraid of that Sexual Energy that women have it the beauty that they have that only I really can put out on that level so with the women so I have always noticed over the years and it’s one of these things that he personally notice at first is there’s not a lot of women in my 23 years of working strip clubs I’ve only really come across seven women that were just fire just pure fire that had that raw sensual Marilyn Monroe which type of energy of Seduction that were just able to ever full-bodied able to just to get into it and to spread that bit a lot of women that I was with intimately take them down in the bedroom and get them okay with a lot of their own sexuality and to break out of a box of what they were used to sexually as far as for the way that they are the way that are able to be vulnerable the way that they’re able to express themselves if they’re doing oral or physical or speaking up so a lot of it it has to be to the man being so confident in his masculine nature that he can direct God and really help a woman Express who she is in a very safe environment so that she can expressive and not feel shame about doing whatever she’s doing and at the same time be okay to have a intimate sex partner that you can come over when you want twice three times a week and everything’s okay there’s no limit to the interaction and the the more you can do that in the more that you can be open about it and that was one thing that’s challenge me over the years you have a wife but I also have a few women that were intimate that lives with me and I even lived across the street I have like a Airbnb house and I had some of the girlfriends that were there so finding that balance and how that works and it always goes smooth guaranteed but finding out how women interact with door the women and their own trust issues sometimes they have at their selves or steam at maybe I get along with one girl and maybe she doesn’t know she’s been very sabotage in all that so big you able to overcome that in or to somehow facilitating hold space and kind of manage personality conflicts and politics I’m very curious education that needs to take place with a lot of communicating that needs to take place there is a lot of really understanding that has to happen because when you’re in environments like this there’s a lot of old school or factors that can come up where it’s person feels like she’s not being loved enough or makes you feeling jealous over here and my belief is that love is only additive love is finite in nature like if a person says they love one person has a son and then a dog does only that amount of love that you had also to have to be taken call Matt so now instead of a percent that person was loved you have to give y’all 25% to the to the child and another 10% to the dog and so now he’s only being loved 75% to give players that were involved in the people that were my life it wasn’t easy for them as well but you know was one of these things that you have a free place to explore it and sometimes it can get Fiery and sometimes it’s beautiful and you find out what your balance is for the first you know there was a point where was like five women and I was lucky enough to be in my mind you know being a young kid that’s like all this is what I want you don’t realize what am I doing I found out in as any man to find out what my personal balance for what very close ones that I can be trusted with an intimate with if I go to one I feel a little claustrophobic and so it really comes down to knowing yourself and being okay to explore it and you have to be open enough I’m going to partake in this if they want to do whatever they want to do to I have to I can’t be a hypocrite so I have to because if you’re going to play the game what a lot of people say it’s a sting on a person you got to be able to take that sting back and be able to say okay you know if I have to experience what they’re experiencing and so he learned a lot and you think you learned a lot of a lot of different levels put the nice thing is is once you go through any kind of figure out and you get through the crashing waves I stay up on the sand you know when you get a little bit deeper you understand who you are and you got to find your own balance and from there. A very peaceful way of being because it just comes down to this is what who I am this is what I like and it’s become very clear and definiteness of purpose comes to mind and then if you find people that are on the same team it becomes even cooler like when they’re really cool things that I enjoyed about living, polyamorous and I like so you know I grow my own food. I’m extremely healthy green drinks well I like to do three green drinks a day if I can. I’m usually not you know I’m usually may be good for one but the drink three times a day is a pain in the ass but you know when you got to clean it got to put away it takes a lot of time but if I wake up and I’m committed to everyone and I want everyone to be happy your I easily can make one green drink okay so the middle person the most days I can make one and the last person didn’t take the entire blunt if you know you’re living together and something goes wrong with something hey you know what had you tip in and get the person’s car fixed or whatever or if a person needs a little bit of love or their feelings I’m very big in the community and exploring that is what my house is kind of crazy cuz I have a woman’s had girls dad trying to get away from crazy boyfriends and biker boyfriend and I believe you know women trying to get them off meth and drugs and then come here and right now I have a woman who is here with trying to get away from her husband and it’s a very big community of women and I’m kind of like that guy in the middle who’s that stability for them and it’s very empowering to which also use healing for them is I’m not hitting on you a lot of these women aren’t you I believe at this point if it’s there and it mixes cool if not you don’t have to force anything yet I just I guess that I’m at and so it’s just very refreshing to see how women can also be healed by being in a situation where a guy is just letting them be safe and it’s part of my past is to explore this in to see how it works but you got to put yourself in the fire and you got you got to be willing to get bumped and bruised and people questioning you who you are and and having a lot of bad. Talk about how people sometimes my neighbors and they think that they like that’s the dumbest thing like I’ma throw parties and I’m up here but I’m like 3 minutes so they’re like they have to put what they think is on it because they can’t imagine one guy having four five six girls living with him and not knowing what to call it because they’ve never experienced it so they can think by releasing questions like I get phone calls from everyone thank you a lot of it has to do with their own wanting to explore that and they don’t have anyone to go by so if you put yourself in there probably what you’re going to run into and just start the map is rudimentary as a map is so that the generations coming up have something to start with instead of having to revamp and reset the tire you know what I hear it’s beautiful or you’re not hitting on it because it’s coming abundantly and flowing to the conversation I guess is really looking at I-5 had a similar experience if when you stop running a predator energy of need and Des creation and unfulfilled desire and and you exude confidence and you make your intentions clear from the beginning you allow women or whoever you prefer to feel that it’s the ball’s in their court if they want to pursue you know they don’t have to bear them to be a big game of chasing around and being dishonest or just put it out there and you’ll be surprised I can speak from experience that it’s not like you’re being passive in you’re not I mean if your intentions are set very clear and salt from the beginning and you don’t manipulate like you’re saying you don’t play games you don’t play people against each other or like most people would be in some Jerry Springer nightmare under these conditions but if you trashed I feel like that’s is that for you while you’re filming comes from just in abundance and trust me and creating a safe space and you don’t have to be using all these tactics to mine fukin control people because you letting them just be free really is what it comes down to is that it is a very weak point of view and it’s not going to last it just built on Sand is what that is it takes a lot more diligence it takes a lot more come for who you are to be able to be in that environment and it because you know it could go left and right you could come back and grab the girls at all yet on which I’ve experienced a few times has a lot of women were interested in exploring the polyamorous relationship but as they go on which is good to explore because they’re like you know what I prefer one-on-one so one of the things that you have to experience and you can get hurt along the way but you know hurting something that is like a bruise it’s just a bruise that’s all it is it doesn’t break and you may even say you love her someone this isn’t really for me which is okay but then when a person leaves you know you’re so you have to be masculine and vulnerable to be able to take that hit to a degree and not cower away from it and not closed down but be more open and understanding that softness and that vulnerability what we talked about because a lot of people think it’s a little bit too feminist chords to fluffy there’s nothing fluffy about being able to deal with a person you know maybe leaving your life if you’re interested or you have feelings for him it says it’s just raw experiential and in being ballsy enough and brave enough to experience at and to know that hit a person could leave this is very brave so it’s a very very masculine thing and I don’t want to do it like all we have is you know that’s raw intimate loving really knows it’s just it’s wrong it’s just no bulshit by Fitz really rise it get so there’s only like I said there’s only Dynamics what a person is going to be a master there’s so many years is 24 and I noticed okay I’m still kind of very attracted to die still very much wanted it but it’s a little bit different and that 20 is a 28 finger a little bit more settled down you’re going to tell you if you’re still going to nightclubs whatever you look at the younger girls he was like top hits just so you know it’s a little strange or or or that maybe you can tell the difference between a younger woman who’s still into her adolescent mindset or younger woman who is very sexual and then 28 + 29 + 24 + every once in awhile like a younger one comes in and so the interesting whole thing about this is life cycle stuff is killing my orgasm in and work through your semen retention and do this and a lot of times I could just stop and get free. If I do decide to come others that I got to work with an immature so it’s not like we were before you got to choose your battles wisely analogies to the World of Sports and other areas that we have these archetypes for masculine power and power is sin it’s interesting because I don’t remember there was a top adult performer male performer with got in trouble for breaking the condom laws and record-keeping laws and got slapped with tens of thousands of dollars of fines bike out I think it’s cal-osha for producing foreign in violation of regulations and his kind of response to his kind of political statement was filing a complaint against one of the the MMA outfits to make the point that we condoning all this violence and all of these pathogen transfer events in contact Sports in in obviously box in MMA there’s they’re not hyper regulating and they’re trying to put the point in if you had a business using this tactic I meant I’m not saying hello ship but it’s like the political commentary of that whole situation is it it strikes to a deeper truth I think we’re at we’re training are athletes and conditioning are athletes in creating a culture of celebrating violence and making professional violence practitioners but the practice of the Living Arts have been driven underground so far and where it’s happening in pouring its being hyper regulated and it’s it’s so weird today if you’re watching traditional TV or something like this very interesting I’d say in the next 10 years especially since you know what these younger kids were grew up on we’re going to see the effects of gangbangs that you know when you’re watching them at 7 years old on your tits it’s going to be fascinating and women you know that I was involved with any dancers so I’ve seen many dancers absolutely ruin their the beautiful feminine that they had was in the came in they were just very soft and loving and and beautiful and after you know a couple months of people to give you the money or just dubbed that coldness when I get where they and very beautiful and I’m just turned dark and cold and ugly and so you don’t have to deal with that too because that’s that darker side of the feminine nature if they start thinking that it’s and that their sexual nature or that part of them is meant to do that they’ll never tap into the true essence of their own 782 and they’re going to be a big part of who they are never a team that beautiful status which is glowing compared to that kind of just that raw cold-hearted maybe sexy looking chick with close friends who I knew and they’re very beautiful blossoming into Womanhood in but still very innocent and then getting into the adult world and just becoming the most bitter really almost like a shell of a person you look in their eyes and they’re just gone this is so sad I mean everything in this that were talking about reveals a person you know you liked was that person really that person that beautiful who they were I have a firm belief that no matter what if your key or solid on the inside and you know who you are then that’s who you really are and you may have a little bumps and bruises along the way if your sit on that that’s all it’s going to release psycho so when I see these girls like Ben and like both who was the real you you know it was this or is that so it may have been hollowed out and child could be a very strange very strange talk about to see in jaculation and being able to cultivate the Sexual Energy so I’m curious since you are probably one of the few men alive who has been in the shed in the adult World in that way but also develop to the semen retention practices and the awareness of the chakras and in all this I imagine that you have been really opening the hearts and really healing and really expanding consciousness of your lovers and giving them experiences that they wouldn’t be getting as escorts or dominatrixes necessarily or any other type of sex worker or with what I don’t know how you and your Club so you know but I know that there’s a lot of lap dancing and then whatever else happens in the booth that doesn’t get asked about it told about it man it’s your duty to bring more love and light to whoever is your consort in the moment and so I just imagine that it’s just that was natural for you to have that effect on women and can you talk about any of those Glory of transformation and healing to those practices in love making you have to take the teacher at what I found is you have to take the just a teacher position where I consider like I’m a tour guide you know I’m here as you’re going to get to go somewhere going to take a ride you’re going to have fun you’re probably going to get wet and then you going to be able to go back to your normal life that’s kind of how you have to position in there because you’re dealing with people on that level you have to give them the out like you can’t let them completely commit to loving you on some level and and I and I don’t mean this in a bad way it’s a very positive but you don’t let them get attached and do you know where you’re supposed to just laying there and there are you know what after sex or even before sex with his laying on your chest is a masculine man you’re letting them know that it’s okay I’ve had women want to be around me is because I really hope ground them to the Greek intimate experience with them it’s a wonderful and then they got to go so you don’t let them get too attached and so they know that they have a spot where they can do this and I’m going to take care about it someone that they tend to fall in love with on unlevel but they protect themselves a lot of them what they want to hear let that happen. I am very upfront about it I’ll sleep know where they standing so they can go as deep as they want to go or give as much as they want to go and the nice thing about being like that is as you can develop relationships I have some women that I’ve been like this for almost 15 years and then setup without trying to hook him in and get them dependent on them like a like a lot of guys want to get that girl dick down so to speak to men need that because that’s their own security of of your hands like I don’t want that not a big deal as well either way it’s going to be a positive thing and that person don’t have to worry and I don’t have to worry about them either you know I’m a care about them but I know that there are a big girl making you know do whatever they want to do how do you know that something is just I’m getting chills right now just thinking about how like you said it’s complex and yet it simple mean this Simplicity and I’m singing all this is that it’s like the words monogamy non monogamy polyamory whatever it’s there all tongue twisters and they don’t they’re all inadequate in some way or shape or another but really what it comes down to is these words of control and freedom and what and are you a controlling lover or you a free lover and do you give freedom and you demand freedom and that this is kind of really the binary if if there had to be your talk about transparency thing about it the peaceful harmonious thing about it is when you’re open and you’re not running off of fear or worried about the other person there’s a certain contentment in life than just a man you’re here you’ve you’ve made it and these people choose to be in your life because they want to not because they’re forced to or they need to or they have some here the motion it’s cuz they genuinely truly want you and that’s a beautiful thing when you have that level of commitment of knowledge of knowing this that ever get to experience what that feeling is and to have attained that level and the nice thing about this whole thing of understanding this is what I love intimacy I love sex and I have also felt to the point where I can talk about all this when I put this kind of weird for me as if I’m even need to be physical anymore because I’ve explored it all throughout my body that it’s a component of it but I’ve reached this level of an elevation of okay yeah I don’t even need to be sexually morayfield like to be sexual but there’s a different energy so you has a more mature man it’s very interesting to you get to this point because you feel like you kind of mastered it and you understand the physical pleasures and you’ve explored the physical pleasures and in that and never developed that in my own Neurology in my own body and so it’s just another layer of wow that’s beautiful and deeply I used to say to myself I want to know myself after I have some Peak erotic experiences that I desire and feel frustrated about not having experienced and they are all very healthy and very empowering mutually empowering and just creative and wild as it should be but living in that state of it takes more than one person to achieve these goals or the person or the people that I’ve had opportunities with her only on board for a part of this shit at its really being a sexual Explorer adventure with ethics and a big heart and a big creative mind if it’s nice to start to feel that you get to that point and you feel like a man see for myself I value intimacy like a woman like I want from a woman what a woman wants from a man and it is a congruence there’s a congruent agenda of deep intimacy finally I didn’t have that vocabulary or that energy and I feel like that comes from really shipping on the nectar of the goddess and really knowing feeding yourself not like Jackhammer porn but feeding yourself dance meditation tantric energy work massage nature gardening let’s talk about it that the modern Sexual Man program like this new sexual Playboy Spirit you know conscious evolved kind of spiritual template for being a modern Sexual Man three you know Neil Strauss came in with the book the game but it helped mainstream everything of what we did but the unfortunate thing about what they did is they labeled it like Pick Up Artist and this is always been to me about men reconnecting with their own nature and exploring that and you know a lot of people that you don’t got thrown off by they want to be a pick-up artists and put a label on it into that this is something that is cool when it’s not cool it’s just natural and a lot of Industry educating guys on this so I did a lot of teaching with guys at on early level stuff and what I noticed that cat is you know I would take a lot of time in study something that put it out there and let you know other people would be using it and I have a lot of material you know I don’t think about you no respect given about her this is what we’ve developed in a thing like yourself for 20 years I just kind of sat on the sexual stuff and a lot of people didn’t even know that I was but to me this is really about opening up your mind maps cuz I studied in the road and doing good for programming hypnosis General semantics psychology I study all kinds of stuff you know I really try to figure out how I could utilize all this knowledge and put it into a program that got men educated on certain levels and so there’s about twenty three techniques that I developed that you’re not going anywhere else that I think she brought to the table and I just laid down this very strong very positive psychology where I thought a person could start from when I came out of the sexual man’s because this is a person who is like I said we were talking about being spiritual as much but I can go to a bar tonight and have a conversation with a girl let’s go fuck out by the garbage can about how woman’s body work how to help women that he would never have orgasms through hypnosis or what they call anchor language patterns and how to get them open and and just how to work with a woman’s body so you’re more like a teacher and you can have a woman Explorer like one here’s one technique that a lot of people interested in it was like anal sex a lot of women are very skeptical of anal sex cause a lot of guys don’t know what they’re talking about how things work so I was thinking through being a trainer your push your leg back if you resist for seven seconds because it’s further so what are the techniques that I thought about the stinkers basically a muscle so you know what I did is I was like and so I should have to look so if you’re in your starting now that you say you going to put your two fingers crossed over a little bit and put it into the point where you ask a girl can’t tell me when it’s uncomfortably never say painful or break if you say the word uncomfortable in a little bit uncomfortable and so he slept in a little bit and she’s pushing for seven seconds and then what you do is say okay and I’ll relax when the relax the muscle relaxants little bit more you can slightly push it in all said and she’s like okay if it’s uncomfortable so you say squeeze squeeze squeeze squeeze squeeze again for relaxing stop to think how do you say basic sound like this is your toolbox like if you have these toolbox down lights going to be good for you because it takes you from one bad sexual experience, for everyone to be with you again and so it’s kind of utilizing that talk about stacking orgasms like there’s a great technique that I also talked about is your performing oral on a woman you have on your bed you have her head off the side of the bed you can you have a pillow Stack Up underneath her ass so the blood is actually going downward into her brain so in her head hanging off so it’s really pulling the blood there so when you stack an orgasm different ways of talked about it and you and you were to feel like a good orgasm stop and you can’t breathe through their bodies they’re packing all that Sexual Energy in there and then on what you say 345 or whatever you choose to pick as your stats they decide to have a orgasm as soon as I start that orgasm you grab their hand and the pull them up so they’re having an orgasm at the same time at the blood is Flushing out of their head in a lot of women can go unconscious with that which is perfect timing so if they do go unconscious and they’re absolutely in this unconscious phase and they’re they’re having orgasm they’re fighting compulsing it’s a beautiful time to be able to program things in their their head work you know they’re flopping around or they’re laying there and they’re just like that to your so sexy and so you can do the programming part of beautiful you know you’re an amazing lover your if you can really really cool things when they’re at that level of depth and when they come through there just get a lot of them cry because they do you know you can tap into something extremely extremely safe place to do and they are and you actually gave him a directions so it’s a lot of cool techniques like that to really get to know who you are lover and your inexperience lover so when you do come to the table she knows that hey you know what you’re talking about cuz you can be the greatest guy in the world but if you suck in bed or if you don’t have any gas or you may not get that second date and so why not you don’t be an experience or at least educated lover I think every man should be educated lover because women talk as well yeah it’s just really I think comes down to there’s no excuse if you have a skill doing anything you should be skilled at the most pleasurable aspects of life you know you can only eat so many times today you put the desire to be intimate and to have sexual contact is is pretty infinite so I this is great this is beautiful and I know there’s a lot of stuff out there but I really like the way you’re presenting it because it’s kind of a I can feel in your voice that real man up coach energy that if only young men as they were becoming only there was sexual initiation rites in the modern world that acknowledge that people are going to explore the birds and the bees when the energy comes when the hormones flowing all the stuff is happening and then to have this form of a resource out there for guidance I think it really will be that you know this will be one of many beautiful antidotes to the the negative conditioning and do you want to be a Jedi do you want to be a hero do you want to be a Toyota Zone and just live that way and I’m really kind of like moving into this just text level of the day like helping people with their you know what their health and I think I’m going to move into another area as far as I go I don’t want to be there at the guru and I never did really want to be the guru I just want to be a guy who’s going to give unique perspective on things and it kind of gives like that like even when it was big in the pool or phase night I never really put myself out there too much cuz I don’t want to be surrounded by a bunch of guys in reality I prefer the company of women and so I was just like you don’t take what I am going to offer I’m going to run over here and I’m going to be transparent about this and I hope you will learn to some degree in and really and in at the same time though help men not get caught into the misogynistic aspect of it because that coldness so can men wear maybe they’ve been the nice guy of the good guy and they’ve been taking advantage of it all time to get this like fuck you bitch where you like it and that’s a negative aspect of it to sew Vengeance in baggage in LA Obi-Wan Kenobi becomes more mainstream and who knows maybe I’ll become even more popular more mainstream but I’ve always been pretty cool with you being on in the underground I hear you and I will you know what’s what I feel like that would be so redeeming for me is during the way you speak in hearing this very fully develop masculine I feel like you if you are like a sports coach that you could be the sports coach of male Talent pornstars you could be directing porn or at least transforming and doing makeovers on the male performers and giving them cuz obviously I mean I went to the the AVN Expo for the first time this year early this year and I went to the male performers panel because I’ve been doing some of my own performing and some kind of avant-garde start recording project and what’s not topping the charts yet but I hope to build alliances with people men and women & Beyond who want to bring these techniques and Technologies into erotic Cinema in and I feel like I don’t think a lot of them even know I think I asked the panel I said do any of you guys consciously practice tantric breathing techniques to be able to last as long as you have to be on set all day they didn’t really have an awareness of the technology of time for like it wasn’t the delegation from the contract movement has not into the mainstream for him to be so we can’t blame that originally like when I was growing up I wanted to be a pornstar and the only reason I didn’t really become a pornstar in my way was because at that point I was like you know my dad’s a Navy captain of my mom said nurse I don’t think that they’re going to really appreciate that at the young age not shameful about it like yeah I think fucking is is great I got to get some normal I guess I don’t look at it as poor another cat it’s like you know this is me being vulnerable in and that’s a cool thing so it’s funny when you said that you were taking that because I thought about partaking in things like that to just agree to us. But it’s supposed to be scheduled for next month where I’m in a very unique position was like okay that’s weird cuz people think a motivational speaker porn fuck yeah let’s do it right now and I don’t know where the line is any more like is this normal cuz I don’t care but at the same time dick in her mouth shut so it’s it’s definitely a fine line to figure out where you’re at on it because it’s weird this going to be a post porn reality very soon I think people it’s like this sort of feeding frenzy on the visual depiction of naked flesh and of all these different types of fucking it’s it’s kind of a Fascination the obsession with everything and all of the really I would say harmful and grotesque transgression stuff it’s kind of like it’s I think it’s going to burn itself out part of me is like I got to go in there and I’ve got to save everybody soul and I’ve got to bring him the light and also I think that just the more ubiquitous erotic entertainment becomes the more sophisticated and people are going to develop taste you know it’s like they just have no taste because there they’ve been so deprived if you’ve been starving someone don’t eat shit if you put in front of them if they get to sort of eat that shit for a while and they somehow survived it they’re going to develop a taste for gourmet meals and they’re going to want to put in the effort and put their money behind it and support the people who are doing more interesting and sophisticated stuff so mean ideas of live sex education performance and art and that being a mean at what if there was a big show in Vegas that was the tantric opera or the tantric Musical and it was live sex with all your favorite adult performers and they’re actually doing something sophisticated artistically and with energy movement and soul and the Shiva Shakti that could light up the whole Coliseum Detroit whatever I mean that would be the future you know where they wanted to develop how they want to do it that’s that’s very interesting Pioneers just bringing it so that they have this pool of knowledge to go from him and that can be a blessing and one way but it’s also because of a curse on another one because they know people tend to sometimes get lazy when it’s just presented Aaron the explorations gone so maybe we’re just all the performers in the Pioneers they’re doing this what it was that I read in your email is ground-and-pound like an MMA fighter on your own you know Langham as is the typical very aggressive non loving knots in the future where the sexual Arts are celebrated at least as much as the combative arts and the sportive Arts of say and imagine that the the sport would be if they keep okay we’re going to put him out of going to ring with these Stuckey country code your guinea women and they’re all going to try to make him come and steal is a jackulate like the white tigers are going to come in there as well as a jackulate he’s always make you know he’s holding on he’s absolutely blacks out I had to discover that with a lover when she would wake up and go and be mad that we didn’t have sex in like yeah we did well control IR that over your own ability I’ve been I’ve been pretty funny with a lot of the other forensic scientist and hamburger McIntosh broke like that I will give you a ride so it kind of got her motivated to the point where I am coming over all right so I was like you know who won 0 and then one second layer on your loss and I would just because you had that control to be able to do that right after it’s accepted in 5 minutes into seconds. The bet you if you don’t get the computer so we had but it’s not sexual ability to have fun like that where we know they’re trying to get your she’s really trying here what’s going on I keep going straight so you know it’s got to have that. Even if it was pouring skit of some kind that just might a picture of as if the poor and actresses doing the Macho Man Randy Savage all that drama because it kind of you know it’s like there is something Charming about the the masculine the urge for conquest and you know but it if it could be in a playful loving a healing mass you know I mean I I have fantasies of women conspiring to just spoil me with sexual love and making you know entry out of how they’re going to surprise me by pulling pranks on me or something to keep it exciting and fun and interesting and dynamic and I like the idea of contest in this whole sport of thing we were just Shuckers for gaming we’re suckers for keeping score and points I mean like if you look at a karate match they look at all the different point they issue they they give you all these points to give you the rating so imagine a sort of I mean they already call it sexual come true in there the Chinese Dallas tradition but imagine matches you don’t like porn matches that are not just like a stick of the Thompson Twins or whoever they do whatever they want to be I think it’s I think that’s a classic hilarious idea. And fun the secret is it is you can’t touch anything to it and they’re both okay I do feel like this begs the question or makes me feel want to explore this a little bit of this kind of the darker side of this obsession with this conversation sheds light on from a country perspective or sacred sexuality kind of perspective or Taoist sexual Kung Fu perspective is that there is this really compulsive ejaculation skewing of section and just about guys getting off but I think there’s if the coolest toughest hard disk or baddest ass man you could be with a man who didn’t come in that way and wasn’t spilling the seed then a whole new machismo cuz there’s always going to be with us about what is the thing that people are competing over in fighting to be the best at it’s going to always be that way and if it’s to be the longest lasting least seeds building Tantra master the porn ring or whatever it is immediately I think that’s really one of the antidotes for for the rape culture is it if it’s been really understand it my heart turned on I want you to really like I want to last long enough so that my heart explodes you know that is unconditional love and Shakti and goddess and God Shiva is flowing through me they’ve never experienced that if they’re just hunched over like an imbecile spilling out load after load on the keyboard on a Polaris I’m glad that you’re leaving with with that, it just needs to be a family value save your seed as you age you with Grace and it took a long time for me like it go to the bathroom three four five six times a day that a duck into bill. You know breathing and even have the self-confidence to the muscle that’s weird I like it a lot of experimenting I mean I would go and I’m very extreme and and nature so I’m on one month I would go okay you know what I’m going to do is I’m going to just you know I’m going to party I’m going to drink smoke drugs experiment for this kind of Dark Realm in the next month I would say okay buy food completely healthy because I really want to see the Dynamics of the energy back and forth back and forth I want to explore this and get to the point where I can have a full understanding that this lifestyle leads to this this lifestyle leads to that and what are the real interesting things about doing this whole process was that exploring that you really get to find with your own Sexual Energy that you have to be able to save it for yourself to a degree and any time that I felt Beatdown a rundown of things like this is like I have a whole little ritual in one would be to channel to Sexual Energy and save and heal my own body up so I know when I want to get back on point if I was off center from 3 Day green juice fast it’ll couple sessions of channeling that Sexual Energy to myself with a massage in and at least one acupuncture thing and I’m back on point so if you can utilize that Sexual Energy and healing way as well so you know that’s a really cool thing to be able to explore in okay been there done that it I got it I get it right I think we have definitely given listeners a lot to want to dig into Explorer so do you want to talk a bit more about how people can connect with your work and get to sign up for everything that you talked about that goes out and there and if you want to go on YouTube I have a channel called hypnotika and phenotype and ask if not a lot of guys send me questions on I respond very well to question so am I send me questions and there is a way to get ahold of it I think it’s a scam Nautica gmail.com send me a question and I get you to help people through the internet on YouTube so don’t like too many places or I think modern-day Sexual Man. Com is another place but I think hypnotic has is a very good generalized Center to meet there I do have a lot of stuff on YouTube in a lot of seminars that I’ve done over the years and that’s that’s a good place well thank God for you to do what I want to see is this Alchemy of the Sacred bad boy nurture master of himself and his love and his hard and every part of his being in this is I think people should definitely watch your videos and get a sense of the intensity flowing through and he wanted to give people a gift for mentioning the show if they contact you anyway would be cool in a group on Facebook if they want do it there it’s it’s called The Master Circle there’s almost like 800 guys there and it’s such a strong powerful group of guys that really helped it’s it’s no spamming should it snow in a misogynist of these are really really good guys that I filtered through and so if you go there and you just stopped me to join to say hey I heard your lecture I’ll just release it to the whole group that one free thing from the 7-Day sexual Mastery that’s all I got it took a trance hypnotic program that helps reprogram and help design a sexual States within a dream state so you can eat a lot of guys can work out their stuffing in a dream state so when they wake up they’ve been able to rehearse sexual States and Central mindset listen to it on your show group in wall to put the link in the show notes that people can go there and find the master Circle the words you want to share your doing as well and it is very interesting because you said you earlier I was listening to some of your stuff you know very Jim Morrison type of spoken word and you don’t I appreciate that self into the Zone Creative Energy Tucson love of life is on passion for life are the ones that are better lovers because of the fact that they’re transmuting it into creativity and two aren’t into creative exploration and expressions and so I found it interesting that because we both kind of do the same thing that we’re both in the spoken word were bolted audio and I appreciate what you do to cuz it’s not just me and it’s not just you it’s it’s just we’re leaving a legacy for for the men that will be up and coming that’s healthy and hopefully by then they can say hey if you really want to study. The guys that are ethical that you’re both sides to degree can understand go yeah that’s this is quality control over the web and trying to figure out who’s who you know by then it’s well-established these are the the longevity to coaches that have the reputation that are are balanced in their thinking and they’re very just raw and manly absolutely you can’t you can’t sell it it doesn’t work if you’re too being out and you know your lover will be cheating on you with the biker or the football player or whatever they get need to get that flirty from so it’s really powerful potent reconciliation of this sort of the splitting and so yeah we we’ve come very much for Circle in the last thing I want to say is just said that I just cannot wait for your values and ethics and techniques and training strategies to kind of percolate through the pants and the porn directors and all the guys who are high-fiving telling lies about girls at ball games and barbecues and jerking themselves into imbecility over pouring eventually it’ll get to critical mass and and I feel like the greatest gift of mixing the tantric wisdom is that if you become a Yoni worshiper good things are going to happen really good things are going to happen and miracles are going to happen and you never know which Yoni you’re going to come through in the next life so treat them all like it’s going to be the one you might be coming through UNIF hoping you might get excused from this body in some way and so it’s I feel that from you man I can tell the difference you know you can tell if a man really really ships the Divine nectar of the Goddess through the Earth through the cosmos in through his beloved and I think I feel that has John residents with you on that level so keep being a blessing and we’ll start busting his curses and raise the vibration and I appreciate you for what you do and much more right on that all right with you have a wonderful night will be entitled thank you. Appreciate if I can’t. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episode if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com

 

Resisting the Compulsion to Ejaculate with Eyal Matsliah TPP75

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Eyal pic In this episode I have the honor of speaking with sexual empowerment coach, author and speaker Eyal Matsliah. We explore the cultural factors involved in compulsive ejaculation patterns in men with an emphasis on the how and why to transcend the ejaculation trap.

We also discuss his insights into the sex industry and his vision of helping to raise consciousness about the potential of transformation through tantra.

 

Eyal’s bio:

Eyal Matsliah is a sexual empowerment coach, author and speaker. He helps professionals unleash their pleasure, power and purpose.

Embracing and harnessing their sexual energy allows them to express
their creative gifts, help others and live a more meaningful life.

Eyal’s best-selling book, ‘Orgasm Unleashed – Your guide to pleasure,
healing and power’, teaches a woman how to transform her sexual
experience by herself, and later share that with her partner.
Learn more at:
http://intimatepower.com/

Links for this episode:
https://intimatepower.com/tantrapunk/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 75 I’m here with a y’all and we’re going to talk about his work as a sexuality empowerment coach and specifically thoughts and best practices for when and how and the intervals of male ejaculation how that affects our our physiology or spirituality and a relationship so please if you want to give us a bit of your background and then we can get into some your offerings and then the main topic and I read books are the types of sexual descriptions and then that included the feelings and Sensations and perceptions of people who engage in sex rather than seeing you know penis in vagina what you see in Poland so yeah in MN for meat was always about healing and empowering others do it obviously pleasure and and you know enjoying sex as well but but many times it was about healing and empowering my my my love is enough to know I discovered Tantra in 2005 realized I’ve been doing tantric practices without even know what I was doing them but then country gave me to the structures and practices and I’m still few years women start telling me that you should offer this as a service I specifically what can I use to call Yoni massage good enough or not TN already I’m not certified I’m out this time of that and visit one of my friends said you know you already doing it to just acknowledge it and just do it and I started offering his services and Yoni massage sexual healing and that you really took off and I became a sexual healer and sexual educator and start holding workshops I’ve walked around the world published the book for women called orgasm at least your guide to pleasure healing and power people can find it to togus malaysia.com or on my website internet power.com and then this book has been in the college by Sam sexual Educators this is the best female orgasm book to read anything close is basically a guide for women to make themselves DPO gas make by themselves so they’re not relying on another person and then they can share it with their love it so yeah that’s that which is sexuality is a Basics basis for personal development and success and so I guess if you walk with people business people interpret Nero’s creatives plastic rotation is in order to use Sexual Energy to help them be more creative to do what they love to help other people and to make money from that so that’s it thank you yeah I’ve been kind of meditating on you and what I’ve been learning about you throughout the day and just really wanted to apply the efforts of you and and really everybody else in the field who is taking on this responsibility of obviously re sacralizing or making sacred sexuality again but really bringing as I think we’re still in the Dark Ages I don’t think it has ended you know so this really is the sexual Enlightenment that we’ve been dying to to have and so introducing these Concepts you know and I’m giving people permission getting past all the shame and the wounding is such an important work you know in this in this time so just want to thank you for that in end do you do you want to give any more specifics of what what your programs and coaching and classes kind of look like and and then we can focus on this the elephant in the room which is the mail saving your seed conversation so I will quit making workshops like the one I have this weekend online programs like ejaculation and also program. To private coaching so I take people to throw 6 to 12 months of Good and Evil like me in the same way that you have a dentist cooking call wacho you know you’ll be starting things Drawn to Life it’s important to study about sexuality and to get to get coaching and Educators in order to provide lot acota listing sexual services and not addicted so yeah quit calling me for free and see if there’s if there’s any Vibe is and if it’s at work together what is a collection control that’s something I’ve been very passionate about for the past 10 or 15 years started by myself and I’m actually known as cool as one of the most serious petitioners around that the school and middle school. Information is still at it it was what the score was great but I needed the simpler structure so for me a people people address of people try to learn ejaculation control with the wrong approach so they come to me unless I know about anal squeezing you know kegels and what they’re very well the start-stop method what else do I need to know and I would say that this is the wrong approach because they focus name of the technique and they need to have a process that I need to have a structure to put this practice in place so I have a five-step model that’s I find really really help people to get it so I run a webinar and talked about this month in one of the people on the webinar said immediately after the webinar they made love and he was able to get to to last for an hour or so until his woman orgasm for the folks what’s the time works this is this is very clear process and for the first the first step of the process is understand why a duck relating doesn’t serve you specifically ejaculating too fast but it’s a different kind of effects that happened I asked for them and effects on their connection with their partner and I’m not saying that they’re shy creation is bad it’s good for its natural but you know once you when you’re not a teenager anymore after that that initial excitement of ejaculation passes but there’s doesn’t understanding what they should be in understanding that that sex and sexuality is not just about ejaculation it’s about using the sexual energy to go beyond that the body needs and once you’re able to do that you have a huge Source power source available to you soap so the wise about recognizing this de Sexual Energy Life Energy that you losing every time that you ejaculate and deciding to a chocolate list three main aspects of that is a pleasure love and power which means you could become multi-orgasmic the pleasure part is you can become multi-orgasmic and bring your apartment into amazing orgasms into love and affection and caring and connection with yourself with your partner and with everybody right onto you and yes we can we can obviously do they do a whole lot for the desert not allowed to go anywhere I’ll give you a reason is just to stir the coffee that model is that the last thing is power in men these days have kind of like I’ve lost their power to misusing their power and they don’t know it’s with power means and this practice gives you control over yourself in. Will there be a man that’s able to deal with issues with instant instant gratification and addiction by practicing at Mission Control because once you’re able to resist the very very naturally stronger to ejaculate you’re so horrible to resist alcohol and caffeine cigarettes and you know Vista Travis and so on and by the way I do I do personally couldn’t see him some of those things are not so bad. But it’s all it’s all in moderation know so you know what your times a month or something like that against the Smokin oyster Ki chocolate is my drug so by the way and we get it you already got today how we do it you’re missing the point because the why is it the most important part if the stronger it why the long can you last say so yeah it also gives you in terms of power and self-confidence. To attract opportunities to your life the Manifest actual money you think about the book Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill and nobody understands what the fuck you means so he said something like this. And then the next the next should I see if I just prefer to go to the next aspect next episode of the I want to just say it’s like this is all available on free at least some of it is available in the free training that I have also on the website and also I can just give you a give you some Snippets but the rest of the interview I’m happy to talk about stuff but I’ve never talked about in any program of podcast do anything so the next stages in ejaculation control a basic after you figured out your why I feel stop in the move infield Mansfield are roused you all and this distinct or the point of no return many people already know about this is that it becomes a point when you pass this point you already skinny black folks would calculation you two are aroused but then the other missing piece and you know. Why is a big missing piece that nobody’s talking about and other missing pieces move so that’s the you can tell the fourth step of the process you don’t feel like I feel stop in the move and movement moving a sexual energy from the gentlest routed by the engineer if your life to your mission and their physical practices they did your father can do for you practices that you that you do outside of sex as well to make it easier when you have sex and in the program that I created this is one of the biggest Parts because there’s something like 20 different techniques some of them very secret yogic techniques that I share their and very powerful v v aspects of the immortalist call Transformers mean that this practice is going to transform your life so transform your life in order to support this practice my life and it’s still an amazing practice that they intend to hold that for the rest of my life and it changed her the last of my clients in my students so it’s not about sex precising something it’s not that we have to sacrifice much equations it’s about it’s about now it’s about experiencing new things have more pleasure becoming multi-orgasmic bring you or your partner to go to gasmic place connecting with hair in here with him in in very deep way which you have never experienced before and it’s about it’s about a new way of living yeah so you can get what came to mind when you’re when you’re talking about this and like it is it’s the discipline that you hope to learn as a child about not spending all of your allowance at the candy store and saving up and going to your favorite restaurant once a month or so I can send beautification is buying lollipops and candies and whatever but maybe you’re saving I was saving that for a bicycle cuz that’s what my thing when I was when I was a child you know I had to fake BMX and I always wanted to that the real premix so yeah it’s like not spending your money when you get it but but saving saving it considering your life energy just hear you speak about it and it came into my mind and I feel like I so I think I don’t know how many but I know that I’m not I’m one of not maybe not the only one who is kind of fun who had a life history of not being shamed for self-pleasure in the home you know in privacy it wasn’t I was I was caught once and my mother was like it’s okay that you do that gave me a hug and you know I didn’t give me a book or manual or send me the times for a temple school but that was a positive imprint that wasn’t scarred by you know the way a lot of people are being shamed and then having to build these bad habits in the nervous system of being afraid being nervous being quiet Contracting getting over with quickly because you don’t know who’s going to need to use the bathroom or you don’t have any privacy or whatever so yes just to add to that guy I fully agree with you and I actually had this similar like to go to negative experiences and when I woke with women are the one on one on body work or via Skype add electrical sexual positions for women who are interested in open to this which means I managed to help to get into an orgasmic State without even touching them by guiding them towards breath and sound and movement and in one of the things that I really noticed there is that women women’s throats are you should have locked and this is also something the township says about the initial die but the throat chakra so I used to go shopping there a pleasure sounds okay so it sounds would be kind of like locked in the in the chest and its related also do women not having your voice and not expressing themselves in the world not expressing their needs and their opinions and their feelings so this is how sexual work an Impala somebody outside of the bedroom right yes I’ve seen I’ve seen the transformation that kind of time for a makeover before and after where someone just becomes a blowtorch of energy just totally present in a live in before they were really crippled and gnarled and yeah I definitely yeah I know what you mean so the the template that that I was describing a sort of men who stumbled upon having this ability because they’re there their self self pleasuring ritual in childhood or adolescence was longer because you were really fully loving themselves and maybe ejaculating maybe not but just sort of having the freedom to be in in a Zone and then and then it’s like it was never that big of an issue for me lasting long enough with the lever because I lasted long with myself cuz I wouldn’t I beautiful so is that what you when you like the idea of reverse engineering it so that you can teach it and then finding the manuals in the scriptures and all these things that kind of reinforced a training methodology and do you encounter or have to sort of sift through that like finding where people are at with how the nervous system is train with all those you know pressures and anxieties and of course porn kind of driving you towards Rapid injaculation like a you know when is obsessed with semen exactly it’s kind of a cult addiction and and infatuation like like I was infatuated with sperm and I started chocolate thing when I was 13 and then phone is still infatuated like the whole bunch is born. But if acacian of the body and white stuff you know and it’s anyway really suggest people is that is that the arousal should come into a Hope from one’s own body and touch you know so I Touch My Heart by the way and if it doesn’t it also k today is really cool to learn how to pleasure yourself and Empower yourself and connect to yourself and not rely on external things not even another person so when you have you dealt with cases where I think we could be we should get into the porn thing a bit cuz I’m seeing this I’m in my mid-thirties and I feel blessed to have had very minimal access to porn for most of my adolescence and and so I developed a positive habits I would say if developing a sexual imagination and therefore kind of haphazardly in an unskilled way I was using the energy to have fantasies and that would give me confidence or that would give me no motivation to kind of know what I like and who I want to pursue and just now I say that it is using Morse code technique techniques the the Serta hypnagogic masturbatory meditative meditation space is like a desktop environment for magic and a manifestation and design so is porn just kills all of that kind of help guys guided meditation return them to be imaginative and more enticed by their own you know Fantasy Realm usually suggest people to go to go cold turkey on phone and it’s also good websites to remember exactly the name if I have it somewhere in the resources for the program so yeah go cold turkey and even if you don’t get hot even if you don’t get aroused just gradually building that cuz sometimes it takes to brain to rewire a few weeks or even months but remembering it’s about self connection note to self pleasuring a note about orgasms so so one of the things that guides guide mayonnaise to relax with the with the demands that they put on themselves to the phone and it since I’m actually inside the feminine side that feels too feminine sides that nurtures because then he managed and masturbating the very very technical very harsh very hard and this is this is us so instead just going slower going softer and Andre training your body to to feel pleasure to express pleasure in the program on the website so yeah. okay so yeah we’re getting yes touching on the the why and the how and now it’s another rant that I heard on your that I saw you give I want to just call her when I call it more of like A A A Treatise A Treatise on why we not only why we should value this process of retaining to see but sort of the Integrity to you know there’s many different schools of timeshare but in general from the country path of going from being a boy to a man to a god you know in body Divine masculine being requires that you look sexual yoga practice in either not either being celibate and practicing you know some sort of transmutation cultivation or being on the left hand path as it were in having partners but certainly valuing and honoring and holding sacred ejaculation in and you know not just having it be frivolous so I think you know I think if you Google Tantra you’re going to find mostly untrained sex workers who may or may not have any like the training but they they just know that they can ask for more money if they use certain words on their on their advertising and then and then it becomes a glorified rub and tug so to speak and it from my perspective if there if they’re doing the value-added of breathing and chakra healing and energy moving and dressing up and using candles and incense and oil and all that’s beautiful because it’s not going to happen it it most of their settings but they also have the power to give more of a training or more of an offering a teaching to their client which you know they may or may not have come for something like that but you have some strong feelings about it so I want to give it over to you to take kind of share that thesis in and then we can talk about you know talk about it a bit Yeah so this is what it’s about it’s about people individually to party professionals that are seeing you know hundreds of clients a gyro in a thousand times two words in your lifetime so what I seen the sex industry is that it’s still has a lot of issues and after those are interested tutoring League reads all of my thoughts I can we can put it in the Show links basically I have to pay article that’s called it is called and my vision what the problem with the story the problem with the sex industry just going to Google it program and it sits on my lights on my website for this too often cause one of them to program and the other one is my vision for conscious sex industry and the problem is is that is that many times in Sex in the City by the ways include anybody who does any service which is considered sexual it’s not just you know who cares it’s not just with strippers it’s not just intimate intimate massager massager with everything is a part of the industry is basically pertaining to addressing what the client wants and what the client thing that they need and then their service provider customer service as if they are back they’re ordering for the menu okay so somebody would come to go to a to an escort to even just do it so cold tantric massage practitioner teen massage and many times it would include Happy Ending and this is the service and what happens is that is that those men and again this does over slavery men like me will give services to women but generates its main clients in women providers and what happened to those men is that they don’t own anything new don’t really get empowered in their sexuality it’s just it’s just what’s the weather to be in force has the same the same purple Nautica patterns that men have fun again I’m generalizing stop it enough by sexual predation is to to to know about this and in terms of the women to women sometimes would be subjected subjectified in and as as objects and not as healers notice goddesses okay so don’t buy call himself a goddess but not really empowered in what they seen what they want to see so the other Dugout to court as my vision for Country sex industry is that people go to sexual healers and sexual position is in the sexual predation that decides what they what they give them what they do for them so man might come to a check in there and she would just caressing for an hour and that’s caressing him for an hour and giving login in in tennis is she would determine that she would chew decided this is what he needs to know and yes maybe he needs his cock sucked as well it’s not just about one thing it’s about it’s about having practitioners who are professional enough and empowered enough independent enough to to make to make the right call note to give the clients what they what they want what they asked for but giving them what the professional shows that they need so actually just going back to the problems it’s not just about you no touch base services but no pictures and strip shows and erotic dancing and other stuff dead battery can be subject to subject defying after of the women and they have to like where this seemingly sexy clothes and high heels and they they danced in the freezing cold clouds and it’s over it fake and there’s actually a desert a conscious erotic dancing by my ex partner woman called Venice to Florence created the dancing Eros in Australia is women Equinox practitioner so as not to call it lay lay people lie women like this just women you know and accountants in and done whatever yoga teachers and nurses and single moms and stay-at-home moms in what desert learning conscious erotic dancers dancing and then performing on making a ritual in front in front of the apartments so so I attended those rituals and it’s beautiful to see women who are not sex workers who are going into conscious erotic dance and it is for the four men to see women in the real pleasure in the real power in the vulnerability and this is something which is transformational for for both men and women to watch the sometimes it is Rich roses are so it does a women Witnesses sew-in does no Dodge does no nothing that’s just just just a dentist answering and and the Witnesses are witnessing and this is also what a picture that’s that can be on that on a professional level okay so I envision nutrition shirt by the creators of dancing Gyros another conscious erotic dance around the world division is to have temples where men and women go and watch those are men invited the guy that somebody to God be reading their body Express pleasure and it’s amazing to to to watch that and some of the pleasure in Washington is is to what somebody in their pleasure but what phone is usually fake you know the body is affected special treasury of fairy everything’s everything’s fake but if you watch a woman on her eye on a half an hour ago gas mix state that she achieves just from breathing and moving this is a life-changing experience just to witness it all right as beautiful on the same page with you I would love to see women-owned Cooperative Collective Eros entertainment centers that are nonprofit for-profit clinical religious there’s so many different in in the US there’s a lot of that just repression of all things Progressive with sexuality but there’s also no Wyld new precedents being set everyday so it. I don’t know what’s going to happen the next few years but probably a lot of a lot of some proactive activism around all things in in this industry and it just seems I think we would agree it’s it’s this whole this whole sexual economic system is skewed towards the endpoint of male ejaculation and it’s every aspect of it is like this funnel it’s like this slippery slope funnel downward spiral to that point of surrendering that energy and do you have you studied any of the sort of Gnostic more esoteric wisdom Traditions stuff around there being just greater sort of Astral implications if we’re ejaculating were perhaps feeding ejaculating we could be perhaps feeding the dark Forces of the Unseen this is that something you’ve dumped into you may not be teaching at a business seminars but in your own studies appropriate than traditional country on which is just part of it is sexuality is one of the best Entre Tantra and scoopers in the world which is a, and I started enough for years basically all of their the traditional country on the country carts and very very Advanced Urology practices and meditation Retreats tons snow 10 day silent meditation Retreats Darkness meditation Retreats where I spent so you know a few days in complete darkness so yeah a lot of that and come back I still have that that knowledge and information but I choose not to talk about it too much cuz I want to make it more accessible to people know so it’s on a very practical listen to know if I ask somebody know what happens what happens if you ejaculate five times in a row you know they’ll tell me how I feel half-dead so for me that’s if it gets a good enough proof that ejaculation the my drains your energy so so I don’t even ask him and I know that feeling when I was younger it’s it it sort of you can get away with it a lot easier when you’re younger for hormonal reasons and just you know that’s your Prime that’s when you’re supposed to be out there doing it but if we think about it well where does the energy go just off into the abyss where there’s nothing lurking two feet on it I don’t think so I think there’s probably things out there that benefit from Mills bleeding their energy into The Ether and maybe that’s what that Cult of ejaculation in porn is about is is this kind of fun more than meets the eye when you can say that book about any addiction that maybe there is a new no more than just physiology if you want to look at the spiritual traditions of behind negative impulses and compulsions and neuroses and whatnot if you were to pull back the veil at a strip club and see all of this gross nasty pathetic exploited is dark energy just sort of feeding this you can feel it right and into it is the other sensitive really the gunk that surround these institutions in the vibe there it’s pretty palpable yeah and then again I always kind of my spiritual practices very much about Consciousness so so for me I don’t have any right to prove to what you know to listen is if these things exist or not but I would say she cultivates Consciousness around you know what you feel and what’s your what’s your addictions are and what you emotions are and basically learned how to to control golden witnessed and and and and go beyond then that’s that the practice okay so it’s the same thing with everything in life you know what this is when did since when food gets what are the behaviors which are sometimes not serving us and then taking a pause for a moment and seeing it’s like what’s why do I want this why do I feel this what does that you know it’s like what am I what am I trying not to feel so for example man ejaculate so they don’t feel intimacy so they don’t see a lot of it basically makes them makes them now I’m so they’re not in the power and why am I having this photo I am I working too hard why am I not doing doing something so so you have for me to call about Scotty wedding presents obituary Consciousness and love this is for me to buy my practice and then your other things around around this is all so that’s what’s kind of like sexual healing and watching women receive so when women have orgasm occasionally to go to a doctor and they would get would have a pain in the back they will go and see a massage practitioner but when a woman has Sappington a union a vagina she would just go and see a psychologist or should go to see a medical practitioner that would give her some drugs to relax her her muscles or whatever and what they would say is that actually they need to see a sexual healing sexual coach for either either coaching or actual body work and in a lot of its toughest psychological but it’s not the kind of many times is not at the psychological The Depths the psychologist and psychiatrist help but it’s stuff that even even coach has experience with working on on sexuality can actually help so so when I when I coach women around their sexuality and I’m not another train to certified anyting I helped him to become multi-orgasmic because I helped them change their mindset the limiting beliefs about themselves in about sexuality to give you an example I have this client was very Ron Cherry sweet Uno very beautiful woman like you would call her sweet and cute and all of this stuff you know but she has like sex by two men at the same time and whipped and and and stuff and she feels like horribly ashamed of that and then I come and say no this is this is totally natural that that you feel these strengths Aziz you know it’s even something is going all the way to what’s rape fantasies it doesn’t mean that the woman actually wants to be raped it means that she’s she’s yearning for a very strong masculine to to surrender to okay so this is a very big very important distinction okay it’s a women in Manteno people feel a lot of a lot of Shame around their sexual desires and play sexual fantasies but they have to recognize what’s underneath them and basically allow them to act out these things in a in a Safeway because whatever is not expressed become suppressed no sew and actually rapes and sexual assault and sexual dysfunction premature ejaculation an orgasmia for women on the way to camp and Spurs and and and medical issues with the reproductive systems I already see that the reason for that is the Mind Body Connection in the shame and repression around sexuality Ryan Gracie so if you want to if you want to find the proof of this it’s like look at the symptoms in society so stop return to check if there’s less repression and suppression of sexual urges sexual assault sexual expression sexual pleasure Sexual Energy they will be basically list physical issues psychological issues health issues and so on and it all starts from a person from yourself so I don’t know if you know I have a movement for the new sexual Revolution the time that I’m creating these days I don’t know if this is actually going to change that policies in the education system but what I can change his people’s individual experiences with sexuality assistant to change change yourself so go to see a code to go to see a Healer and Dad Smite includes talking that make includes breakfast if you do by yourself and I can say that most of the women that they’ve worked with hoof done their homework and become multi-orgasmic deeply orgasmic crazy orgasmic and you never felt before with dinner around 4 to eight weeks of practice without me touching them guy from the other side of the world is she going to an orgasmic State that’s going to last for half an hour an hour where you you hardly remember your name and you know something women tell me all that sounds exhausting and this might be a topic for another episode but it’s exhausting because women are having the wrong kind of orgasms not wrong exactly but they don’t serve them what’s call explosive orgasms and instead they can have they can have the other kind of oil goes in the same clothes of orgasms and that is a power source for the power drain and then again it’s another thing that I do for four people died in educating and I give another practices to be able to do that so yeah there’s a lot that’s awesome this is another thank you for all that you know another you ever have you ever encounter to sort of their cultural cliche of the idea that men as it’s kind of the joke is it men don’t like to stop and ask for directions because it didn’t Souls there managed somehow to have to admit that they don’t know something and so you’ll see I’ve seen that movies throughout my life and it’s heard of that, cliche of course now it’s got GPS so it’s kind of outdated but that I just I just something I want to get into you about he went this is the sort of deeper the deeper gender framework that were in that kind of expects the man to just be automatically proficient at Saxon so it’s really not talked about that he’s feeling because he’s got no training and it’s not I mean no one no one no one and expect you to not know how to play football and not have any training in football go out on the football field and actually not get destroyed in seconds, but in the bedroom we accepted and taken for granted because we’re afraid to admit that the woman actually has to doesn’t have to be a Woman by let’s say that the the orgasmic Dynamic is intrinsically inferior in the case of men and Superior in the case of the female body women just out of the box so it’s like this this looming foolishness of patriarchal arrogance about ever thing is like really the most of shooting yourself in the foot thing you could do to be not willing to to learn from and understand study will how what is happening for this you know my woman whose or or the woman before me and my beloved who is going into all these ecstatic trance States and Lasting all this time what’s wrong with me is the question really so the men for having this patriarchal society that you know it makes him believe that they have the answers everything but then of course still get billed Drive their family in circles last because they want to ask for directions and though just get knocked out in 2 minutes in the bedroom brighter beloved because they won’t ask questions about how they like to be touch what works for them and why they get to go so much longer with without having these problems so what are your thoughts on net what is it supposed to learn it by ourselves people think that if they was born they would learn about sex if there are you know Read 50 Shades of Grey or whatever you know so sexy Jan. 65 it’s like a mashallah to it’s like it’s a life skill and and you know people learn driving knows if you’re done driving at the Drina driving school with a driving teacher and take driving test and get the driving license and you know what this is all so extravagant no feedback and I was if you pass a red light if there’s a camera up there and you get to get tickets so so everything so many things in society we can learn we can study the tech certification is shit and you didn’t start your gation is if is very very results-oriented and it’s very very technical okay so some of the year so I asked me for my comment on an article called the five five foods to improve your sex life I have some effect in the fridge is a confection someone but this is that you can do it and some Minds it shifts and and lifestyle changes that you can do it to make yourself more sexual an orgasmic yeah and I fully agree with you this idea of men think think they know what they’re doing and this this this immature masculine which is correct crying like don’t tell me how to do it it’s like there’s some people that stuff started this and they might help you to be the best version of yourself and you know 2 p.m. out your guys with man to to connect to the apartment is one of my walk show up so I have a few and I have a few multiple frames in that said Leo guy is in the US and holding them here in Melbourne Australia but I have one which is called Beyond Yoni massage Awakening female pleasure and Awakening female pleasure it’s about showing men how they can teaching men how they can pleasure heal and Empower a woman with their presents with their eyes with their voice with a very light touch which is not a gentle touch and also obvious that includes you know you need massage vaginal massage put stuff on YouTube when I get very swimming into a cosmic states without without without touching them so this is what men need to learn and I’m doing this work for the man and also for the women in the world cuz if I help a man I help the women that he’s with so yeah this is this so much to learn and I’ve been doing this work for years and I’m constantly learning things it’s about attitudes about techniques I like to say and also having anything to write to a statue it then but you’d if humility attitude of exploration and what happens in this Workshop so really like men describe the things that they would not never imagined was possible like I need a damn a few days ago at 6 specialty festival called celebrating sexuality in Australia and people with short cuz I never saw a woman in this in the state and I’m if I’m not mistaken I can like touch to you you only after like 45 minutes on the outside on her knickers you know a knock-knock like stimulation no robinho no clitoral addictions or anything just just what occurred sexual activation and people were shocked because because they never saw that something like this is possible that you mentioned yeah it is also going to control a diction in society and it again comes from Miss education and clitoris is beautiful and dress you bought and great but people are too much too focused on that and David forgetting the part about the whole body in the internal vagina too so yeah I’m not sure if you’ll have much background in this but I did some my passion in college was Anthropologie special environmental anthropology human ecology and and also was very at my lover’s at the time and pretty much ever since have all been pretty hard for eco-feminist with with a real background in NSB logical research which is kind of been helping to reshape our barbaric attitudes about Paleolithic sex and love I think the book sex at dawn really brings so much of a wealth of knowledge about you know different relationship Styles obviously before domestication and what not but what I really would love to find is more comprehensive studies that from anthropological perspective that look at nonindustrial Societies or non agricultural societies what’s a Horticultural societies hunter-gatherer societies and really are do you know of any studies that that would give us a sense of what a more Primal lovemaking cycle would look like for men are males who have actually would be uncircumcised you know I’m almost all cases and then which is a huge factor and then also just the the the sexual initiation rites and then the long you know I’m shamed controlled or let’s say unrepressed are repressed sexual freedom and I mean I don’t want to go in with cameras and make you know anthro porn or something but I know there is there is video. Be great to have the sort of data compiled that gives a sense actually it’s not that you know we say the average sex in America last 2 to 5 minutes or something or 3 to 7 minutes or whatever it is but Anthropologist would be able to give us the data of a few no se for 99% of human history the average length of coitus was X number of minutes or whatever and females are pretty much guarantee you orgasm because they aren’t traumatized and there aren’t armored around it and they’re living in an orgasm McDowell ristic state of you know Bliss and ecstasy so I’m so curious now like what what other people in the tundra fueled know about pre domesticated pre-industrial agricultural societies and what with the Baseline sorry I’m not I’m not an expert in this specific thing but the little bit that I know is obviously the tantric all the time to explore in all the times your teachings if you go really into not just sexual country but the country of the Tantrums live stats on Trove of energy the tantric body the Tantra yoga I have they have a lot of practices around dreads that’s over it’s in my background this taoism is well until we just came from Tantra and also Denny influence Tantra and so that’s enough of the huge body of knowledge around sexual practices and I have to say to that weeds traditional with tribal societies something very good example something good example because there’s also there’s also are the problems in them and then one of them is that it said there’s so much hard work needed to survive they don’t have their 2 hours to have vino tantric love-making what’s what’s the women women keep bearing children all the time you know from a very young age and back this other issues but one culture which I can give an example is wise to put an Asian okay I don’t remember I think you should Google put an Asian sexuality or stuff like this you will find reports of when the colonialist first roscato dental very very sexually open and the status on death by the way I’m not pretty sure I read some Google results taken from some book the Muslims use to have some practices as well and go to Costco Muslims obviously but you know what the practices of insect i n s a c as well we’re related to that it was more like so so small Bots about pleasure not so much about spirituality with anything that that existed before Christianity and the West Western mindset guts to who was many of the movie the goods and yeah so so so someone is it like to put together a conference and this is a call for papers start start doing the research and whoever’s out there cuz if we could have a world map of places where you can go I mean imagine if it would imagine if you were doing Sexual Healing work and you could say hey everybody it’s traumatize we’re going to go and take a field trip to a culture where none of this bullshit ever happened you know I’m just I don’t think there’s nothing going on you want to listen very very little pockets of really great sexuality in the world and some of them sexually open expressive in and I mean again but I’ve been to many many different countries in Europe and middle-east Australia Avenue I have nothing to the US yet and I can say the deduction Moncton among the most relaxed around sexuality that I’ve seen even more than the sweets. So that’s okay and also so why do we say is that there’s people around the world was sexual expert and healers and Educators go and find their teachings okay what day do they experience and this is you know the Polynesians are in surrounding it tasted the sexually free Polynesians aren’t around anymore but spent all of these all of these people and Educators and you know it’s like a storm that the International School of Temple arts in the think they have some some branches still in the US but this is a good school this does a few good goes around so I just wanted to send this so much to to learn and it’s not like a dumb thing. Anything that you can study sexuality on your life and you can keep keep growing in it and it’s not just about sex and this is this is kind of like my very important point I want to make sure what it’s about it’s about life you can you can do sexual practices while being celebrated not have an apartment and you can you can really be creative and you know advance in society and make lots of money and help lots of people with sexual practices that don’t involve another person and if you do choose to interact with another person does not a benefit to that as well so so it’s not about the one our lovemaking with the multiple orgasms or whatever it’s about it’s about 3 how to use a sexual energy to transform your life more about the glory of cultivating and transmuting and really harvesting the the energy for manifestation and for energizing your purpose and all of the stuff it’s going to kind of sell it to you know I mean cuz imagine just fingers and all of the men who have been going to get off going to wherever with whoever to go and get off that they hear this podcast and they decide you know what I’m going to give this a try what’s in it for me now what’s the sum of the elevator pitch bullet points of the benefits that you get so that there’s that sort of internal drive I mean to say one last thing before you hand it over to say that I was just talking with the sex worker friend of mine actual train tycoon who has the skills and wants to put them to work Reno put the go to work but just says I can’t I tried to get them on board with the discipline and the training and they just won’t have it and they will go to somebody else and I’ll lose business so I’m stuck low vibrational addictive pattern and it’s if it’s my livelihood I’m not volunteering to do it at a clinic here in some low-income area or something it’s like it’s a vicious cycle so I really think it’s going to be up to people like you and me and and others to to make semen retention sexy you know if you will write so traffic please how do we professional is sex worker oldest with whoever she is and I hear that the Lord and it starts it starts on the person’s own beliefs and experience around semen retention and sexual development because if she doesn’t really know enough practice is to teach them she would not be able to help them this is this is if she just doesn’t have the right mindset and against all of the mindset is to why why why why why is us doing it why minimizing calculation okay when she understands it when when she’s totally sold on that she would be a much better Trends transmitter of that in the same way that when I started practicing Tantra I attracted to women who challenged my practice okay and they wanted me to come and complain and this and that in the past few years when I’m so confident about my practice even when I’m interact with women who are not don’t have any experience with a tan Tana tan tan fixer cuz it’s like they don’t they don’t ask me to ejaculate every happy when I tell them that I don’t have chocolate donut chocolate doesn’t mean that I don’t orgasm I have beautiful pleasure in orgasmic States and so on but when you are really clear and really dedicated to this approach to the Scott way of life you will attract people who would be interested in. And actually the sexual can you have an edge over under six workers because you say I can make you a multi orgasmic man and you can drive women wild 4 hours without ejaculating you can become multi-orgasmic and you’ll be more successful in with everything that you do in life so somebody can be a multi-millionaire and they can be with their the creative successful socially successful and so all in the moment they control ejaculation they would go one step higher or two step higher or have the same thing but to be more relaxed about themselves and self-loathing is also sometimes related to to self sabotaging and so on so that’s so so I would say it’s not about selling anything it’s about having people explaining to people water the water benefits and how the life with Jane and inviting them to to try because some people tell me it’s like you’re wrong because once I tried it like for 3 days and then and definitely know my balls are hurting and I was like okay okay you don’t have a picture over a straight you don’t have my firestick more if you had my five steps you would know that the fourth step is moving their energy and if you can move that has you wouldn’t have wouldn’t have blue balls and wouldn’t feel like it’s so horny you can park your horse and wouldn’t be frustrated so going back going back to the wise is I have think the videos on my program around 45 minutes to an hour just on the Y this is how long I spend telling people about all of the difference aspects of this and you know I want to make more money control your sexual energy and is an accountant you can be more creative in and have like creative Tax Solutions okay is it colder you could be more creative as a lawyer can be more creative yeah I do definitely want to mention there was a we don’t we didn’t really try to compartmentalize the different sexual Kung Fu Taoist kind of phone template for your very pretty rigid ejaculation intervals and throughout life stages changing there’s there’s a whole system vast system in the Far East and then South Asian contrary Nepalese in tibetan Buddhist I’m sure there’s there’s there’s all of those different and conflicting views on best practices but one one thing that I found that really kind of helps navigate through all that is is in his kind of a you could call it a bridge or or maybe a stepping stone or a Gateway or pathway but it’s like what do you think about the idea that it maybe instead of telling man you hate you have to stop coming you know you have to stop releasing your seat and then let’s just such a right angle turn in are you know it’s such a 180 for them it’s different if you if you think of it like if you know harvest the you know that the energy of your desire to get off and do you know 5 or 6 like I think Montag she is says you know raise the level of the plateau of the orgasmic Climax and kind of have that gift five or six Cycles before you release and you sort of other other accounts would say you’re sort of like the spent fuel that comes out which is the sort of post transmutation semen is not as potent if you eat of the last you’re not losing that potency if you cultivated and then release it so is that where is that sort of middle-ground fit into your thinking about you know whether or not it’s a dry or in a multiple dry orgasms and then release or no release ever or you know is that yeah I should have discussed it with the with the very very how to save experience Chinese medicine practitioner lately and I would say most men throughout their life have ejaculated idea once a day or three times a week so first of all have an accident and you know if somebody is 40 and they’re doing it since the 13th Avenue NE for 27 years when you try not to ejaculate it’s always still might have wet dreams are accidents or whatever but but first of all have a real experience of how it feels like and remember you not send Acra fising anyting is no sacrifice this just you gaining new things you’re experiencing more pleasure becoming a molecule Gathering command you connecting with your partner you are you know you known as it starts that if you know last four hours if this this is what you want you can connect with grated love and in connection with your partner and you can bring her to orgasm through penetration for 4 hours how you gain more self-confidence you build up their good side of your ego and then yeah you use this energy for manifestation and if you really move the energy it’s like this would be available to you to your life’s mission to your business to your to your social charity to whatever your family you know it’s a dad as well as spiritual practice whatever you do it again this is not just me saying this this is this is some of the biggest schools of thought in the world like the religions it’s not just about shame it’s about they recognize that that frequent ejaculation is draining from your energy and it’s not the times in a row and by the way thank you notes 15 when I was 15 I was able to do it five times in a row you get to to charity and for some some some people even twenty-five and you can’t do it so many times so disapprove that that your body loses energy when your chocolate so so instead used energy dedicate the energy to whatever you doing life before I have sex by the way I would make cargo shorts consecration or prayer of dedication of the energies to do my relationship to my health to my business to to money to a spiritual practice to do all of the above the window in the moment where there’s a voice in my head which is telling me a chocolate chocolate chocolate check my energy goes towards my Highest Potential not my lowest potential well you know guys will will buy into whatever somebody shouting in their face sweaters and drill sergeant or sports coach or daddy or you know it’s it’s so it’s sad that it’s all it’s all skewed of me I have this joke about how we pay these boxers 180 million dollars to punch each other in the head repeatedly and not fall over but when they go home to celebrate their their win with their wife she she doesn’t she knocks him out and you know they can get punched in the head hundreds of times and it doesn’t phase them so they’ve condition themselves to be punched in the head repeatedly but not to be the heavyweight lover who knows by the way just just you know another proof of that is that people going to professional sports at the men are advised not to ejaculate in the night before a few days before the energy and I was so so cash is a good energy mental energy it’s about it’s by the way I feel so creates a slight depression can aggravate signs of depression because of hormonal shifts after ejaculation so yeah I can drink drink my semen in the rare occasions when I ejaculates not sure what it’s beautiful there’s no problem but if you want to go beyond that and if you want to really see how your life transform you know give its give it a try and make sure that you have the right guidance again ejaculation control program.com that’s that’s one of the one of the web sites around that so what if they want to go into dad’s what’s the temperature be like somebody listening and you know that you have a mission in life you know that you have greater potential than what you are expressing right now right now go to the websites and book of free chat with me and we’ll see if I can help you to go to the next level. What specifically were serious yeah when will I so appreciate everything you’ve shared and I really feel honored to be able to be able to have this conversation have you know here out so am I my Wilder questions about the subject but I think this is a good starting point you know a lot of people who are interested in and really it’s going to write think it’s going to require a kind of a publicist do you know a publicist for a new me Manu like you said sexual Revolution where we where men are humbled by female sexual power and wisdom and and are willing to be in service of it and I do not like what someone said once was and what will the world look like if if men if it took for 30 to 40 minutes for a man to be so aroused by Deep intimacy and it’s hard that his penis to get aroused what would the world look like if if there was equality in the arousal cycle and so you know imagine there will be no rape, first and foremost there will be no rape if you couldn’t get in if you couldn’t get an erection without feeling loved and going both ways in all directions then then you just do penis wouldn’t work I mean that would be what we’re trying to get to write in set sensitivity so also invite professionals and Educators and even people who are not in the sex industry but you know coaches and so on to to contact me because I’m I really see this idea of of an organization which is empowering people who give services to other people like coaches and mentors in Kountze wedding at 1 and empowers them with some sexual practices because right now it’s like they don’t know what to tell to their clients and I woke you know I woke with a sports coach one of the world’s leading rugby coaches and he starts to include men’s workingmen’s empowering in his Sports coaching things to do than giving him so it’s not just about sex workers it’s about anybody can benefit from this from this work so so talk with me if you want to look into relationship into Partnerships in to do how we can bring this knowledge into your audience in your clients have a red state or was it fed to vent a few weeks ago in that so yeah it’s in the it’s in it’s definitely one of my plans and stuff so awesome thank you very much and pick up check internet intimate power.com for thanks I think I can I can make a resource with a page with all of the I want to see some of the stuff he talks about so I can put it that the internet power.com 4/10 trap Punk alright yeah we’ll get the links that you mention on the show notes for this episode and yeah do you have any final closing dots you want to share him just to say thank you to you and all because you really ask me some questions that nobody else asked me and also so I’m really grateful for you bringing this to the agenda and and sharing that and it’s only for people like you that the words that that that the word that the work that the message really really which is the people that need to to hear it so so yeah I’m close to you might like to thank you for right and thank you likewise yeah hopefully we’ll get to see each other and in and hang out sometime in until then definitely blessings and all your great works in and we’ll be in touch soon and I can’t wait to see this new it is there a website or any kind of resource certain kind of Manifesto or mission statement you have for the the new sexual Revolution kind of platform I love I love the title so I want to thank you I’m onerous I’m building this at this these days and also it’s a it’s a big thing and I’m getting guy in die on the page that switching with your with your Allison is right now awesome cool right then we’ll thank you again so much and we’ll talk soon take care bye-bye please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition assassini and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple what provides ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Archer Park. 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Sacred Yes Sacred No with David Bruce Leonard TPP31

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tp-david-bruce-leonard-picIn this episode we discuss David’s work at the Earth Medicine Institute where he provides healing programs that incorporate both the loving arts and the martial arts. We then discuss some of the ethics and dangers of sexual healing work followed by an overview of some of the  benefits of and precautions  for the practice of semen retention.

David’s Bio:
David Bruce Leonard is a deep ecologist, body-worker, Qigong practitioner, acupuncturist, martial artist, and plant lover. He has studied medicine with teachers in Asia, North and South America, and Hawai’i. David believes that our health and the meaning of our lives are inseparable from our interactions with the natural world. He has worked in a bank, done marine whale research, and has been seen in public attempting to dance Argentine tango.

David is available for workshops and consultations in the creation of men’s groups and support circles. Private coaching sessions for men or couples are available. He can be reached via his website www.EarthMedicineInstitute.com.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin okay so David Bruce Leonard at the Earth medicine Institute how are you doing today welcome to the tundra Punk podcast well I’m baby myself pretty well all right all right well I was introduced to your work by a dear friend of mine and I I’ve been looking at your website and excited about all the books that you’ve done and I’m very new to you and all of your great works in the world but I’m very excited I think you’re doing a lot of the stuff that I aspire to be doing in my my pets so if you don’t mind give us a kind of some background how did you get to where you’re at now and spend as much time as feels natural and then we’ll go from there and talk about some of the specifics I mean like you I’m very interested and sacred sexuality and also self-defense I think a lot of those pieces were War because I was beating up a lot of the kid so ocean traumatized as a young man and well later on when I’ve always been sort of sexually precocious when I ended up in high school I I just part of my shadow and part of whatever you want to call that there’s a part of me that really wanted to be loved and accepted by girls when I started dating so I kind of fell into that and then became very interested and sacred sexuality and eventually that became clear that was a piece of piece of shadow in the shadows the parts of ourselves you don’t want to look at it so I started doing some work with that part of myself and began writing and it’s been an ongoing process awesome so you’re in what you’re not one of the Hawaiian Islands right now so and then do you have a dwelling at that Institute site is it that works no actually I take care of my mom so I’m in on Maui and my mom is elderly and I lived with her and take care of her I’m just here for her so I want us to be as good as I can make them awesome awesome it’s so that the facility is you have like a like a Healing Center and Training Center kind of Temple Sacred Space or no we do not miss is here depending on which island them on cuz I teach on on Kauai and Maui and the big island and Oahu so this place is I use on Maui as different facilities and places on the big island and on Kauai and Oahu also but no I’m kind of medicine Institute we have been different instructors on different islands and and then when I travel I also you know I teach another places also oh that’s cool yeah I’m actually I’m really looking into and considering that kind of more of a flexible kind of gypsy model for instruction and holding in creating space for especially the darker kind of Shadow work I don’t know if this is something that you’ve encountered or that you’ve considered but there is I guess I would say for my personal experience there’s there’s a lot of potential liability when you’re opening up these deep wounds and people and you just never know what kind of support they’re going to need you can try to be very supportive but I feel like a lot of drama and personality conflicts and issues and liabilities can accumulate in one fix location I don’t know if that’s something that’s like a factor that you consider or or do not the sacred sexuality week each is erotic body work but it’s talk to couples so I don’t actually do erotic body work on clients that’s not part of what I do I train couples to work on each other I’m so in some ways that’s what it mitigates a lot of the liability because I don’t do I don’t do any erotic touching people I know people do when I think it’s fine work is just not what I choose to do Andy self-defense work is is it is an already existing system called Fast offense which I I began to learn about the roots of that back in the mid-80s and I’ve been tracking it ever since and I become certified in that a few years ago and said that work is already very established and is actually very little liability with a self-defense piece huh yeah so mostly I like right now I’m working on a series of of instructional video tapes for couples so they can learn to do a rouse work on each other so the work itself code can be therapeutic I mean theoretically it’s therapeutic if it’s done with couples but I don’t work as a therapist with people who been traumatized sexually that not with the erotic Body Works and ends with the self-defense would you work with that Banda legal issues with a picture right it’s a very tricky work and we have to be extremely squeaky-clean specialist men doing this work so right right will this is against is so exciting for me to hear that you’re bringing these two worlds together because I feel like every time I start to open my mouth as myself a sexual abuse Survivor and you know a victim of different forms of non-sexual physical emotional violence building the sacred Warrior Peaceful Warrior masculine archetype within myself as a as a response to buy wounding every time I start talking about that with people who are more on the the new age sort of trip they get sort of shut down to order they get very hostile to it because it’s it’s bringing in you know the notion of fighting in combat in and that’s something that they would just rather iick neglect or ignore as part of the reality that were in and and I think that’s not really holistic good for trail in the world you know the wonderful and beautiful and peaceful place and it can be a very violent dangerous place and we ignore either one of those possibilities that are parallel that created the work that fast was originally part of service model mugging which was created by a man than that Thomas he created fast because he was sexually assaulted as a repeatedly in an orphanage and that was how all of this work came about so I think it and I think it would take somebody like that who’s been through hell and back and come out the other side to really create something as brilliant as well as what we the now in the past offense so I can totally see why you’re doing the work and you know why I do the work and one that created the the self-defense work right eye I was exposed to his material when I listen to something it was called the self-defense Show podcast and I don’t know it’s been defunct for years I don’t even know if it’s still available online but they interviewed him and I heard that years ago and I was totally stoked on it and I picked up his book defend yourself I think it still hurts very good yeah it’s filled with those you know the powerful statistics and yet his story would just bring you to tears and and I have always since I have known about the adrenal stress response training in the model mugging and all this revolutionary scientific street self-defense combat kind of restructuring martial arts to a more practical indirect kind of format I was very have been very excited about it I haven’t myself been able to access the certification training but you want to talk a little bit about exact or actually go into detail going to death why is the fast combatives different than going to a a karate in a dojo years and there’s nothing like this work that I’ve ever seen it’s a it’s a combination of it’s in some ways it’s a huge it’s a it’s a ceiling in Sacred Space ritual disguised as a self-defense class let me back up a little bit because I have a belief or an observation that trauma is created in a hide rental in state and pretty much all that I can imagine is created and that that state is imprinted on a body in that biochemical response in adrenal response I believe there are two ways to address or two more than two ways for the two ways that I can think of off the top of my head that might be effective in addressing trauma one is to recreate the adrenalized state in Sacred Space and give them give the body a different physical outcome which is what we doing fast wee wee is scenario-based so we will recover after a lot of work a lot of preparation we will recreate a situation that was originally very traumatic we recreate the state in the person going through it and then we allow we train them to move their body in a way that I believe rewires the limbic system if it takes on a new imprint around that it basically because of trauma is like a tape Loop like a record that skips for those of us that are old enough to remember records that keeps repeating and if it’s as it is playing in the background in our bodies and it often creates a kind of hyper-vigilance it really kind of drives the bus of Our Lives when we recreate the original trauma and give the body a different outcome it’s I believe it is changes the set point of the trauma and let’s the trauma take a backseat is still there you know but it no longer drives the bus are you familiar with Peter Levine’s work no he was a book called waking the tiger and he does the exact same kind of work only cycle more psychological song about self-defense the same thing with people have been traumatized in a sacred container and then gives the body a different physical outcome to the trauma that we do the same thing in mankind project which is a men’s initiation project group I’ve been involved with will take again a traumatic situation we we recreate a scenario and then with allowing the full physical force in the body to give a different outcome to that to that trauma I believe it changes the set point in the nervous system and allows people to integrate what happened better right right well yeah so kind of even though it’s not therapy it’s a form of therapeutic work that it’s disguised as a self-defense class and then the other way I think that one can do that his can treat trauma is again in the Sacred Space but in a very parasympathetic relax space a meditation space which would be sacred sexuality and I find you no different people gravitate towards different forms of that I also see what kinds of amazing things you can do if we are willing to step back through our our integrity work as man and create a container or space that other people which other people can heal I think it’s incredibly powerful Rite Aid instructor for 18 years he created fast because he he’s so well he left he left model mugging his do some political issues that he decided he would rather not deal with which I think was a good move on his part and he really Innovative so he took model mugging which is originally for solid days of tranny they turned it into a 4-Hour class and honestly Bill him as well as being a very dedicated Warrior genius he took the the model mugging work any concentrated concentrated it added men to the mix of men can also in this work and added weapons and really kind of brought model mugging and Matt’s work into the 21st century and said what we do is we you know I have a suit I have people I work with female instructors and then the female instructor is just as important as the male instructor because she is the the voice that she is not the healthy voice the voice of the healthy healthy feminine in the woman so when the scenario is going on she’s always behind the woman she’s always giving her information feedback guiding her when when women after they’ve taken the class when they have been assaulted and their body goes into autopilot in the statistics are incredible like the statistics of it’s like 99.5% of the people to go to the class when faced with a physical violent altercation when he’s women against rape powerful men they win they say they can hear the woman’s voice in their head going through it so yeah so we do so the female structure is just as important as the mailing is the guy you know people think it’s about the suit and it’s not really about the students about the teaching modalities in the pedagogy that is involved in rear I believe rewiring people’s limbic systems awesome yes this is a conversation ever wanted to have for a long time and I’ve I’ve actually kind of on a low budget adapted what I know of these principles certainly not using the name or selling it but just with my own no dating partners and friends you know whoever I meet I’m going to give him a can of pepper spray and explain to him how to properly deployed and how to how to hold it and when to have it ready for deployment in and if we you know hit the pads and do some some striking techniques on the pads and then I’ve just got myself a motorcycle helmet and some knee pads and actually found it with that where where are you where are you normally in the LA area Los Angeles I’m do some training would be fun it’s really good just really awesome you know that when is martial artist you know we like to think you know where NC techniques and stuff and then I’m not talented but I’ve been training a long time and like a three-year-old you know everybody know how talented they are kind of comes unglued around adrenal stress cuz we’re not used to yeah do you want to talk a little bit about that or what you want first if I’m going to say for all of the things were talking about regarding the fast combatives to me at it I’m seeing it in my mind’s eye because I’ve watched the videos and night and I’m an Enthusiast of it but to put the picture together for people who haven’t seen that do you want to come to describe what a minute or two of the of the takedowns and the we bring people into a container of salt container depends on this is just women sometimes it’s women and men and we teach them body language in queuing how to deescalate situations 90% of the fast work is about D escalating a situation so that it doesn’t go to a violent confrontation and they don’t have a lot of statistics and techniques and not but it is reasonably simple once you learn how to avoid a violent confrontation and get home safe and Alive you know once that so we do that we teach body language cueing what creditors look for in situations how to see violence situations when they’re on the way and avoid them and if there is a verbal confrontation how did the Escalade that confrontation I think the stats that bill gives is that I think seventy or eighty percent of assaults on women are done with only verbal intimidation no physical intimidation no exit by intimidation but 90% of verbal confrontation scan BD escalated or maybe higher with just words alone and it’s a matter of body language and what were putting out to the world that’s what we teach first cuz obviously you know if we can avoid violence that’s the best option I was just watching a video the other day and he said he said the speaker said violence is a last resort but when it raised our Resort is the only Resorts the only choice violence is always the last choice but when it is our choices becomes the only choice and that I believe that’s what we do in fast so once it’s clear there is absolutely no way to avoid a violent confrontation then we train peoples on large muscle groups to go into action and when were adrenalized when we’re a high adrenaline state which is basically in any confrontation we lose peripheral vision we get tunnel vision we get we lose fine motor control you know car keys and things like that and and we and we also get time to scotian and auditory exclusion we can’t hear so what that means is that we don’t have all our Resources with us what we do have continued to have is large muscle groups and so we teach people these large muscle movements big movements that are extremely effective that they don’t even have to remember because they won’t remember be able to remember the fine motor skill techniques that they will be able to remember these big muscle groups on my training partner here was about six months ago she was down and the beach here and she was attacked by a guy to come out of nowhere and punched her in the stomach or not and she’s not are the female instructor Sabrina that I work with and she she Palm healed in the face and broke his nose she kneed him in the groin she kneed him in the face and then she stomped on his head and then called the police and this is a very traumatic thing but her body did it automatically think about it you just did it you know and that’s that’s what we’re looking for so we we basically take a student and we teach them to deescalate a violent situation once it’s really obvious there’s there’s no way out of the violence if no way around it we teach them to cut loose with very very powerful techniques that basically finish the confrontation very quickly and because we do it in the hydranal and stayed the the the student it goes directly into the limbic system it becomes on autopilot goes right into muscle memory and so and we have to actually part of the training is when they’re in the adrenal stay when they’re done with the quote on quote we have them put your hands up and look around and we should call nine-one-one or go get help because they might forget to do that as a maybe other people in the situation you know so for me this is like I said it’s genius and Peyton Quinn and Bill kept are geniuses in my in my in my mind because they have that they’re not afraid of bucking the the martial arts system they just want to go for what’s true and what really works rather than going with tradition and you know people playing tag in their pajamas. I’ve been and what Bruce Lee said was you know Kung Fu is is is like a beautiful form of feather dusting when it comes time for I’m glad you I like to two point that that kind of stuff out and I think the the one of those things so I’ll try to say to people as you know those you see those Aikido Masters that have all that fine motor control and a state where most people would be very adrenalized but the thing is they are Masters and they come from a cultural tradition where you don’t just go one or two nights a week for a couple hours after work to have your hobby or these are everyday all-day training other people and not everybody makes it there an issue it’s not a they don’t I’ll make it they have to weed weed people out the students so the what you see in the movies with all this finessed technique of like a lot of time in indigenous healing Traditions or however we want to call it you know how to be sewn underground and so I I say that’s kind of reflected in how we how I approached this kind of thing even though you know today will will it will post the events publicly on Facebook and things like that there is still a ring to it that is about you’re not waiting for us to be given our our approval by by Society you know we just know that it’s important so we do this and and so like I’ve been doing this constantly one of my goals that I set out of certain point was that at least you know once a year there would be a community gathering around love sex intelligence and the rest of the time you know we haven’t online for him but very important for that hole project has been and which we’ve stepped it up in the recent months to make sure that hopefully like every month we can do something is to to say that the community around learning about how to how to harmonise our relationships how to defend our sexuality into something that is you know how uplifting our spiritual path is something that needs to be done you know with with with more support and so that’s why it’s it can’t just functioning online capacity so that’s something I’ve committed to we have we have been actually our next events is focusing squarely on sexual initiation I’m pink resented by someone named y’all Lila Espinosa is looking at how to tweeze mower practices that she learned in Peru you know have informed her own healing and and then creating her own initiation but yeah I also you know as an astrologer I work with people and often it is around relating I’ve done a little bit of like you know support for people I think what happens is you know when when you become a central figure in any given Community people will come to you when they’re in crisis and this is what has informed my my the work that I do around you know Rites of Passage is responding to crisis from a place that seeks to get to the root of what is causing the crisis which in so many cases is that there is a lack of of support and people therefore will resort to self initiation just something I’ve had to do in my own life and and see it so much the case for some of the other people and there’s another psychological shifts that occur when people an emotional shift that occur when people feel a sense that they’re being held that they are being that they can fit they can let go and have a safe space to go into those wounds and begin working on them and of course it would help if we had a little more guidance and how to do that but thought comes over over time you know we have to work from where we’re at and so that’s something that I’ve been in in the my own process of of my own work around here figuring what those things are with those tools are and Tom yeah like I said I’m not an expert but I can at least Point people in some directions I guess what we’re looking at here is that there’s an underground space very intentional underground space that is more conducive to kind of freestyling or rolling your own ceremony and just holding the light and and letting those who it call who are called to it you know it would become integrated into keep it at the gala Therrien and flowing so that you don’t have cult of personality and politics and all of the scenester Hipster things coming in and that’s always up in it and he has to be on guard against and whatnot so I see there’s that unfoldment in that development and then there’s people who are also working like stay in the social work field who are informing their peers and colleagues in those sectors with these Neo shamanic techniques or nonviolent communication or your where it’s legal and accessible and permissible you know legally again to be able to put people on amor I guess like prisons prison you Lila has a very and I’ve done some I interviewed her in the past and I’m a big fan of what she’s doing and I know she has a strong background in clinical social work and is feeding back into that sector the wisdom of of the Amazon and and Beyond and so is that something that you have I just thought I remember reading somewhere you know or talk to you at some point about how this is this is like you could be hired by the more formal above ground and sectors of social work or Community work with where you can be brought in to bring some of the stuff that would normally be or I guess it’s just that it’s a very interesting Cutting Edge of an intersection and I if I’m not mistaken that’s that you you are like sort of partially in that world 2 of of social work or is that something I understand correctly yeah I’ll I will string this conversation back and see where where I where I am placed social work as well as all the modalities of counseling and healing you know like they are all part and parcel to supporting and upholding status quo capitalist system so I’m going to like you know like you know also haven’t been in the punk scene also had a big enough impact on my my party now 13 m in terms of healing these wounds we have to look at that and I we can’t we can’t say like that are healing is going to be independent of the world that is reeling and suffering from the continuation of this system as it is and so that’s where for me like bringing capitalism into the equation is is something that’s real tricky it’s something that I feel needs to be kind of understood. You know we we can’t just rely on having sting services that we can pay for because that creates a gap you know where some people are going to have accessible abilities to to the healing and others won’t and that’s that’s not healthy for anyone and and also that it doesn’t address the root cause of why we need social workers to begin with and why we need counseling and all of that so I really like the notion of cultural healing that’s where more where I would be comfortable in any way kind of looking at myself as any kind of healer I don’t think we we can really heal individuals that’s really something that you know a person will need to and it’s not like they can be facilitated to do their own healing work but nobody can fix us we have to fix ourselves that’s that’s more I think a more powerful Paradigm to be apart of but you know I I I have worked in the realm of I focused therapy and you know I have spent quite a bit of time around the spirit plant medicines and seeing how the plant medicines have assisted and I do I do continue continuously work to increase my knowledge and wisdom around working with us plants and and that also brings us back into that hole realm of discussion around you know ancestors and working with them or perhaps that’s something we haven’t really touched upon but maybe she said it’s just that in any form of healing that we do I guess for me the important thing that I really try to bring into whatever I do connecting back with her ancestors and healing the trauma of how we were disconnected from those ancestors and how that plays out in any kind of sexual wounds or emotional wounds that we carry and so that’s something that I I I feel like the role of initiation and ritual can can really do and that’s that’s been its Province ever since people began doing patrols I think it’s to build upon the legacy of their ancestors and to draw and their their help and support cool said that yeah thank you for helping me understand the other parameters a little better and and 100% there with you I have I have been because I live in the United States where there’s different laws around no prostitution in in how that affects the healing with sexual touch and pleasure as medicine and stuff like that is a lot more yes I understand in in Canada there’s there’s a lot more interesting legal space in order to do Hands-On Sexual Healing work relative to the US where it’s completely off limits in so I because of that adapting to that reality and also is a permaculture designer myself I have to think very deeply about how to navigate this issue of for-profit healing work that kind of in most sectors is about like you said I’ll put in my own words it’s like they want to know if if the if you’re at a time of time robot that supposed to be producing a set amount to be a productive member of the of the GDP then then if you’re not functioning properly than the the goal of the mainstream social work or psychotherapeutic or psychiatric Fields they’re trying to get you back into the rat race as soon as possible and they’ll do that with drugs with talk therapy or whatever that is about avoiding through tissue which is the disconnection from urethane from a healthy holistic wild habitat you know a night as a primitivist I see that you know the solution to your Neurosis is to retry belies and Get Growing your own food again in and rebuild that fabric so you know there with you on that tension about right livelihood in and taking money for healing and what is he doing so I really like what you said and that just is going to it’s going to help me a lot looking at healing the cultural level and healing the if I’m understanding right and I’ll put a couple my own words on it but I feel like we’re trying to build the scaffolding or were trying to design the context for people to take the responsibility of a personal healing and gone to that journey and so if you if what would you say are some practical skills are tools from all of your things that you would teaching and training and a things that you discovered in your own journey to where you’re in power tools for empowerment that you suggest or are resources that you suggest people Explorer to if they’re called to do the cultural healing work weather for profit or non-profit. Some dance between the two or it and then what what are some recommendations for people who are on their own path and aren’t necessarily called to do the the cultural healing yeah I mean it’s it’s a pretty vast subject that one but I think that a few points that I could think about and talk about our that I’m going to this idea of bringing you back in the station rights and recognizing that in the absence of them what do we have you know we are we are sadly in there without initiated Elders so many of us and if there are any of Elders that hold that ability to to guide those those ones are those are worth their weight in gold you know there really is people that we should try to lift up and and give them their recognition and see you know and then in the absence of that it’s like we kind of by default Our Generations people that will have to hopefully fulfill that and reach a place where we can actually help upcoming generations to go in a way that they don’t have to completely go it alone and and figure it out on them on their own the way that so many of us have had to and so there is a movement around Rites of Passage I sit on the board if you passageways which is a network that focus is squarely on you no Rites of Passage for you coming of age from all different walks and and and modalities you know some of them are our Boys to Men oriented some of them are girls to women some of them are starting to incorporate non gender binary kind of approaches as well which is good and and this whole focus on bringing back the ancestors into looking at Rites of Passage is is starting to happen and something that I focused on and so that’s that’s a resource you know people can go to youth passageways. Oregon and look at what programs are out there and they can also think about how they can add to that list and bring in things that are needed around especially around sexuality and relationship which is often I noticed kind of a big gap in a lot of programs out there you know because they’re confined confined or constrained by the conservative values where they take place and you know what school system is you know this is one of those places lagging for that kind of thing so it’s a role that I think that many people who understand the need can step into and cultivate as career paths you know and some people are pig figuring out how they can weave their credentials says on Sexual Health Educators or sexual therapist or sexual trauma or no trauma-based therapists you know into this realm of initiation and that’s that needs to happen on a on an increased level the other I see a lot of because of what I was saying around looks really don’t how many Avenues to learn other than through you know what the books in the workshops and offerings around sexuality thoughts unfortunately are not rooted in in people’s only need two lineages generally speaking you know so the whole Tantra movement is pretty much so you know a cultural appropriator of New Age fight version of those Traditions that would have been squashed by Christianity especially and so I think there’s work to be done there and as much as possible Retreat retrieving reconstructing are reconnecting with our own ancestral Traditions which I’m sure you know had their own knowledge wisdom around how to how to raise healthy harmonious individuals with healthy sexualities from from the vantage point of how what little I do know has been has been done in indigenous cultures and without wanting to appropriate for them from them I’ll just give way of examples out of that you know in and certain cultures that are studied like the Mayan culture and I think to some degree on certain places within Creek culture there’s examples of how as societies you know that the children are raised from an early age 2 reach a point where they understand how to how to harmonize with the other sex and how to to look after each other and that’s just a very basic principle that I feel like you know that’s that’s worth kind of learning how to integrate into our family structures if we have children that were raising just to keep in mind that you know there is a need for them to learn skills around things like consent and around being responsible with with one’s sexual energies and and I needs to start before they reach that age of adolescence where they’re just harder to connect with if you haven’t built up that Foundation so that’s something that I think about will do you so if I if if we check out that the organization that you mention is it would that be good place to find and something like a more enlightened or more conscious like sexual education curriculum or guidebook do you know if people were working on something like that so if I know if you know parents who were going through the puberty of their child that they have something that’s not just this cold clinical Western and even though that sort of evolving a little bit you know with things like a sack didn’t and whatnot I see a lot but the The ancestral wisdom and you know the ceremonial Rites of Passage you know how does it how does the Modern Family say okay well you’re about to start feeling you know hormonal Energy’s how do we give you know create even if it’s just within their family or their Community yoga or whatever is something more than what’s being offered in the normal sex ed or what they’re listening in gangster rap music and watching on sitcoms obviously you know it’s enough for lack of lot of alternative options it’s one one place to look and we’re always looking for others so whenever we discover something then we will see to auditory resources and we are trying to vet those resources and those organizations to make sure that they really are you know at least there’s some some level of you know safe recommendation that we can give for those those organizations we’re not we’re not in the position to really kind of completely you know set standards but we are trying to we have a code of what we call it a cross-cultural protocol so we do look at that aspect that you have for what we’re talking about that’s you know if that’s another layer that we will hopefully get to eventually and I do know that there are people within our Network who are really strongly focused on this particularly around girls to women kind of education and and Rites of Passage and some of the Boys to Men once but I think it’s also something we need to to enhance as well oh that’s great yeah that’s that’s that’s what I wanted to hear so that I can just refer people to this ongoing and so and then the LSI is kind of its there’s a Facebook I’ve been interacting with the the Facebook group for a while so is that something you recommend people plug-in I mean that’s the goal of that is to feature blogs and generate discussions from those blogs and also to establish a resource of services as well as information and so that’s you know running on in a very limited volunteer capacity and so you know it’s something that I hope will eventually become a very powerful resource but already it’s you know it’s been feedback that I’ve received that you know even just the the group that we have on Facebook somebody posted recently. You know it’s really help them in their in their path which is nice to hear and I’ve heard that a few times and I try to curate that group in such a way where it’s like you know it’s trying to generate discussion and it’s it’s trying to be a safe space where where people can get into some of those I’m intimate revealing is of what what’s going on in their lives one of the things that kind of came out of love sex intelligence local as a connection with Tamara and the love school that they have which is a very congruence philosophy to love sex intelligence and they’re their work to try to create or with to create safe spaces for people to to share stories of what’s going on in their intimate lover sexual lives and and B witnessed in a way that is non-judgemental where they’re not being flooded with advice but more just being witnessed which is kind of connected to that whole framework for Rites of Passage itm witnessing each other and so it’s it’s trying to also look at how you know communities can succeed in their in their goals which might include you know like being more sustainable or being an alternative to the systems around us and also being a part of a more peaceful kind of culture through filling this hole that is often where things go wrong where people are are are not feeling safe to talk about these these human experiences around wounding around are our hearts and our sexuality so I’ve been part of a Practice Group here that has been circulating also to other parts of BC and I think it’s a really it’s a really powerful movement to be a part of yeah we’re getting close to an hour or so I have to take a few more minutes and I’m get a couple thoughts and feelings some responsible for 1 something that his is coming up for me that I think it’s really empowering is this like idea that wouldn’t it be nice if some of us started to think of ourselves as aspiring Elders I’ve never thought of it that way until this conversation and there’s a little spark of joy and me that that says you know puts in context the the punk rock lifestyle that I had of live fast Die Young and just you know if it’s not throwing yourself into the meat grinder of insurrectionary activism you know with this sort of Death Wish you know this martyr complex or whatever it’s like those are really unsustainable archetypes to follow and they leave a lot of people when they get to my age in about 35 like in a sort of existential crisis that will the revolution didn’t happen and I didn’t get killed I didn’t die in the gutter you know I mean what am I going to do now and it’s like well maybe it’s time to become an aspiring Elder and you know clean up your act and and then start to think about how you’re going to make it easier cuz I there’s a lot of things that I had to go through that I would seriously love to have no one else ever have to go through and if you know if we can live in that. you know that is what you’re supposed to think that I think of you say you know you can you can learn from the wisdom of Elders who have gone through and made the mistakes that you’re probably going to go through or you can just be hard-headed and learn all your lessons the hard way but I mean we’ve had to learn a lot of hard lessons in the absence of the eldership but I think if we take on that there’s a yeah me too. It seems obvious but really the way you put it his medicine for me to think you know it’s a dignified path to be an aspiring Elder and then it makes you not be so how do I can help you defeat that that that grinding pressure that oh my I’m going to lose my looks and I’m going to lose my energy and I’m going to be in the state of deprecation towards death and that’s very much the greatest fear of the western manicured Uno photoshopped airbrushed identity like you’re not really giving any hope that aging will be of any benefit in here just marginalized further and further so I thank you for that serve very much still give that time sacred eldership dignity not a light title to hold I think the true Elder wouldn’t really feel comfortable in it cuz it’s defining attributes of an elder that is really one that can help that role be the best it can be is one that is is really accountable is really present isn’t so on the move that if you can’t you know be relied upon to be there for the people that it serves now needs to ideally be in the in the fellowship of other Elders to kind of keep it in in in check in a way like we have to watch for the Cole group kind of phenomenon where people you know place a lot of weight on that person and in a way that can privilege them in certain ways and also lead to potential like power distortions and things like that you know it’s it’s only human that people will make mistakes and so having that kind of accountability of other people and also that time yeah you have people heart or a different there’s always like in every phase of life with the lifecycle there’s there’s like the maturing phases and so there’s like you know there’s a baby elder there’s enough adult Elder and then Senior Elder and so it’s just we have to learn at each stage of Life how to become the mature version of what that stage is and says just something to think about as well and it’s good to to get your feet wet early on in life so that you know we can have deep roots and and the and those are the kinds of people to like in the Tamara situation out of the black community they have a circle of Elders who are basically people who have grown with a community enough that they know the people in their community and then they serve a role as potential kind of like the Matchmaker but you know in a way where people can approach them in and ask them like you know I’m interested in this person and they can help you assess whether this is the right time or what is a good or bad idea and you know they can kind of that. Whole courtship in a way that you know really I think I wish there were more of those people around here don’t you let me relax you know learn the hard way what does that we’re just not compatible certain people in The Matrix the I mean yeah I’m not I’m not a political scientist of the Matrix but I will say that what got me peaked on the ecstatic trance dance group ritual ceremony festival thing was it really when I saw I think it was maybe the second movie or maybe it was the second or the third but there was a scene where they’re just getting down to like Juno Reactor I think was a soundtrack of a butt there is something beautiful about seeing the different the warrior culture Guided by elders and of course there’s different the archetypes playing out in Conflict split that to me was took it further than then the Star Trek Federation is a futuristic Elder guided Council guided kind of reality so that was kind of fun but yeah so that’s what came to mind when you’re at we’re talking about that be so cool if you’re early sexual oracle’s who you go to you know if we’re going to give you insights and maybe even have name your child for you or something cool like that you know be so cool but right on then will I worry about at the hours so do you have any closing touch you want to share or any other resources or should we just I’ll post the the links that you mention and I’ll definitely encourage people to stay informed and keep an eye out for your anything coming up you have any appearances or anything exciting like that coming up you want to mention I think yeah I think I covered a lot of it and I just wanted to maybe plant a seed while I have the airwaves here about something that I’d I’d eventually like to work on presenting which is around insert Intercultural relationships and also decolonizing our relationships as well and just thinking about how how we can heal some of these ancestral traumas and use that has as as a means to strengthen our relationships and also our society right on I’ll be looking forward to everything that you’re you’re expressing in the world and I hopefully yeah maybe sometime in the future we can talk about skill sets for Beyond Christian monogamy that would be a great topic so yeah how would you feel about that maybe we can sometime in the next few months follow up with something like that. Maybe by the by the time I’ll have more of a personal lived experience to a base conversation around that I think you know in terms of people who are already I don’t know how many listeners here are on a Christian spiritual path without that many but if the energy and gnosticism and sacred marriage not going to the alchemical top in the in the Gnostic tradition but I I wouldn’t make any claims to be an expert in that area but it’s definitely something to look at cool alright then we will be in touch and will follow up sometime in the future and thank you so much so be I really enjoyed it and I know it’s taking us a while to get this to get this done but I think it was perfect and I couldn’t ask for anything more so you have a wonderful day. 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