In this episode I’m joined again by Vanessa Soulxo for a discussion on the shift from hierarchical to egalitarian spiritual leadership
Vanessa LeMaistre is a Spiritual & Soul Empowerment Activist. Her platform provides a self-improvement/positive lifestyle brand to customers who are looking to feel whole within themselves. Vanessa has overcome a lot and believes if she could, so can you. Vanessa is very inspirational and she aspires to inspire. She provides inspirational youtube videos on her youtube channel: www.youtube.com/uareart and on her social media platforms she promotes exerts and positive affirmations from her upcoming book. You can find her on social media platforms such as Ig, snapchat, Twitter under the name: vanessasoulxo which is also the name of her website domain. Her Facebook is her first and last name: Vanessa LeMaistre
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My Non Verbatim Notes:
VS: training in Colorado, graduating in may with resilient leadership program, focus on sustainability and social justice, great program, what are we gonna do with this kind of knowledge
interesting experience, expanded so much in ways, politically, climate crisis
download this morning: earth tells us how strong it is by showing us
we can damage, be so cruel with capitalistic ways, but mother earth is resilient
shamanic training, working with plant medicines
tarot reading, spiritual and intellectual, recommended naropa, eastern/western philosophy, perfect for someone who’s a seeker, however a lot of charlatans there
some professors spiritual leaders, major issues with…middle aged white men still stuck in the patriarchy
no longer this hierarchy, all about me, bow down to me and I take all the power, future of leadership, switch from hierarchy to more egalitarian, we’re all equal
taking away guru, bow down to me paradox, scarcity mindset
I have to be willing to accept when I need people who are more powerful than me
age of aquarius, take away old paradox of capitalism and hierarchy, one person on top
abusive treatment from spiritual leaders
Naropa’s in Boulder, spiritual hub, growing business, spiritual businesses, people are capitalizing on it, most of the people are fake, heartbreaking to see cultish behavior, the more followers a person has, the more manipulation
people called out yoga teacher on her healing that needs to happen, she went bezerk
if you’re on a leadership platform of any level, you should be ok to be called out, no body’s perfect
if you say I’m a healer, I’ve healed everything you’re a liar
witness middle aged white professors, spiritual leaders
TP: professors should get paid on a curve, based on votes from students to balance the power
VS: students, pests, total followers, have no sense of self
you don’t throw jabs at students
you’re not coming from a kind place, so shut the fuck up
TP: can draw upon traditions of sadistic initiation and humiliation
the fuckery of Tibetan Buddhist, secret sex cult, academic analysis of distortion of men being in monastic chastity, creepy manipulators, collusion, hexes, spells, death threats
VS: last thing you want to do is be manipulating people by throwing spiritual jabs, because those cuts hurt deeper
plant ceremony circles, cultish mentality, manipulation, shaming everyone that comes there
are you actually doing the work, shows you really have so much work you need to tend to
TP: need to be roasted more often not less often if you have power
enlightenment, be kind and not criticize everything
Deepak Chopra, non-judgment
mind hacks, positive/constructive inner voice redirection
shambala center scandals, male dominated institutionalized sectors, zen buddhism, so male dominated
sexual tension is real, things are going down in an ill way
woman of color, not many at all in the spiritual industry in America, so much of what has arose has come from indigenous cultures even African indigenous cultures, raped, stolen
TP: sages, saints, prophets, messiahs, too much to ask of pantheon of god men, why isn’t there an exalted female voice representing the divine goddess or earthly embodiment
collective messiah, sisterhood witch coven, actually has each other’s backs, hard to find, not about most money, biggest boobs, clearest skin, politics are distorted, only thing I’ve seen work is magic mushrooms, tone down that ego
collective of empowered righteous medicine women, collectively channel a bigger voice
VS: we’re not sustainable, that paradigm is no longer sustainable, not balanced
Egypt: ancients believed when a man achieved a high amount of knowledge spiritual and power, he would be allowed to wear a long haired wig to symbolize that he had reached a certain level of that equal to a woman
behind every successful man is a strong woman holding him up, keeping him balanced, bringing him peace
recognizing each other’s strengths
look at all these buildings, not sustainable
machismo, misogynistic mentality, disrespecting yourself
you’re describing the woman in the house that I’m initiating into
not getting vibe of competitive, ego, money power, real sisterhood, shocked right now
TP: not an economy of male attention, have each other’s back, like links of armor together
VS: there was one guy that they where gonna bring in to initiate into our house, mother of the house started asking for dreams, said she had dreams that were very revealing about him, how he was betraying and backstabbing, the way the sister’s joined it was unbelievable, if anyone messes with any one of us, we’re all gonna have each others back
TP: dream of goddess temple , powerful men, bow down to fem domme’s
VS: that’s what we need, systems are so broken, education, judicial, health, how can we bring in more divine masculine, and divine feminine, lacking, how can we merge spirituality with these systems for greater collective awaking
TP: divine feminine is coming through no matter what, divine masculine, it’s gonna be a struggle, to topple the demonic overlords, if you could push a button to dissolve homophobia, divine masculine would fill hearts of all men on earth
men want to play with witches, gotta give each other coconut oil massage first
VS: amazing people, transgendered, no how to bring in both, balanced, gurus, two spirited, amazing human beings, kind, empathetic, understanding things differently
TP: tantric alchemy, triangle, masculine feminine bottom corners, ascension of kundalini, meet and become one at the top
VS: back in 2017, working at crystal shop in venice, beach, santoria woman comes in calls me out, you’re haitian, already reclaimed you, just haven’t initiated you yet, I was doing my own spiritual thing, predicted I would be working with plants
when joined program, friend invited me to a cacao ceremony, I’m thinking I’m gonna do chocolate, heard it opens heart, makes more loving, there’s a fire pit, middle of night, circle, passing around green powered, why is this green, whatever, dark paste to put on gums, must be cacao, intense vulnerable experience, beautiful
wasn’t cacao, that was coca, in concentrate form, door way led into whole path with medicines, microdosing with magic mushrooms, ayahuasca, universe is smart, had I known it was coca I would have been like no I’m not doing that
TP: decriminalization nature movement, entheogens decriminalized in Santa Cruz,
dance with haitian priestesses, throughout development, haitian shamanic revolution, invocation, deities, ancestors, spiritual revolution, not marx, not communism, party line, indigenous, totally
VS: all this stigma about what voodoo is, that is how they won the revolution in 1804 no other black free nation until 150 years later, cecile fatiman, pig ceremony started the revolution, shamanism, paganism, trance like states
what led me to this path, haitian priestess voodoo initiation, getting into plants, connecting with ayahuasca, beautiful experience for shipibo, saw me, called to that medicine, wanna find who I’m gonna learn from
got back from jungle, grandmother, what are you doing in the jungle taking medicine, pagaism, witchcraft, when that happens, when you’re called its not you, you’d not choose voodoo, voodoo chooses you
TP: you do you and voo doo you
VS: lineage is calling you, ancestors wanted you to leave California to get you some where calm and quiet so they could start tapping in, all these dots started connecting
researching portals, deities, very powerful, not spirits you want to take lightly, have a lot of sincerity, they can get upset if you disrespect them, I’m learning a lot
mother of house did a reading, can’t just pay to be a high priestess, spirit needs to confirm initiation, its not for everybody
born into hatiain lineage
grew up with mallato family, strong french presence, history of haiti, didn’t allow voodoo, combinations of saints because they were not allowed, raised catholic, all about white is right, american dream
had to come to truth with myself, with my soul, intense level I’m being called
TP: mixed healing arts
VS: I’m a make up of 3 races, I feel equally connected to plant medicines, and bringing in hatiain high priestess patheon, making it my own modernized way, very empowering, I go march 10th, I’ll be back the 24th, that initian is pretty intense, you’re told mysteries, I don’t even know what I’m getting into
Bufo toad, 5me0 dmt, more powerful than ayahuasca, really excited
TP: you’re feeding your fire with the antics of the patriarchs, so shallow, so obvious, paradox of ego, just the desire to destroy ego is a from the ego
VS: constantly check myself, not doing it primarily for me, doing it for others service, finding that balance, last thing I want to do is be a slave to my calling, constant checking am I happy, will this make me happy, wanna be happy getting up everyday doing the work, take some of the me out
TP be frugal, live simply, if majority of net worth being directed towards healing, transformation, liberation, you’ll continually get resupplied, just like a garden
VS: plan, determined to have a church, self love center, don’t want a podium, just sit down in a circle and just talk, everyone welcome, atheists are welcomed, that’s how I’d bring people to god, hopefully empower each other, getting closer to our truth
balance of old traditions but being radical, finding balance
really called to go to l.a. really scary, demonic forces there
TP: align with nature you’ll be blessed, beach, ocean, hiking trails, protected wild areas, wild coast line
things about la that do drive me crazy and make me sick
I been here chasing dreams, having enough come true I’m ready to chill more, enjoy fruits of labor put in over the course of almost 20 years, done really well, almost like vegas too, if you don’t have your shit together it can tear you apart and drag you down
VS: living in heart of hollywood, studio apartment so peaceful, 3 am , yelling, toxcity, energy so intense, I have to be shielded on another level spiritually to go in and do the work
TP: have a yard, ecosystem you can draw from, rather than be stacked in an apartment, co-op houses, yard spaces garden sanctuary, capture rain water, transforming homes, eco sanctuaries
where ever you go don’t lose that connection to the soil, have more freedom, hang clothes out to dry, pets will have a better life
you can be safe from crime, but not safe from neighbors who don’t want you to grow food in your front yard
east of l.a. river, parties all night long, soulful dance music
pacific palisades, between malibu and santa monica, coast line, trails, less population, still half hour away from sunset strip, if you want to play that game, it’s a gamble, tango with the matrix
VS: start small, hopefully get congregation to build it up, lets expand, love to have a store too, do workshops, give people opportunities to shine there light, on different things, diversity, inclusivity, reinvent our current
In this episode I’m joined by Brad Amberheart
My new gay tantra hero has joined me for a deep exploration of all things gay and tantra. He takes us on a journey through his journey, a cinematic adventure behind the veil and into the inner sanctum of a magical priest of love. I felt lifted out-of-body and into the clouds while experiencing his eloquent narrative of personal evolution, healing, empowerment, transformation, and transcendence. I was in the perfect mood to shove off the shore of normal waking consciousness to dance within the erotic consciousness of Brad’s historic evolutionary path towards bigger and bigger love.
Brad Amberheart is a Tantric sex coach and erotic workshop facilitator who works primarily with gay men. His primary passion is working 1-on-1 with men who are ready to explore erotic ecstasy as a pathway to a higher understanding of who we are and why we’re here. Brad has also led transformational erotic rituals at international Tantra festivals for people of all genders, including the Hawaii Tantra Festival and the Tantra Love Fest in Glastonbury, UK. Between 2017 and 2020, he wrote more than 120 concepts for conscious evolutionary Gay Sex videos and worked on 7 gay erotic film sets to coach male erotic models in how to convey a deeper sense of heightened sexual freedom and expression on camera. His latest endeavor, as of January 2020, is the launch of his podcast series, Gay Tantra, which is the first podcast series in the world devoted fully to the experiential practice of Tantra, Sexual Magic, and Erotic Mysticism for men who have sex with men. To listen to his podcast, watch his gay erotic videos, or book a Tantric Sex coaching session in person or via video conferencing, please visit bradamberheart.com
My (not verbatim) show notes:
Tantric sex coach, erotic workshop facilitator for gay men, host of gay tantra podcast
Gratitude to tantrapunk podcast for invitation, a month ago, searching for gay tantra podcasts, closest that came up was tantra punk because of interviews with Jason Tantra and others, listened to quite a few podcasts, deeply touched by transcendental eroticism, self pleasuring that encouraged men to cherish our own bodies, and use orgasm for healing
right when just about to contact tantra punk, I got an email we found one another at the same time
sitting in same bedroom in grandmother’s house, live in western north carolina, talking today from home of ancestors, family lived for 5 generations, same cedar tree I decorated with lights over the holidays that was my height when I was twelve, now the same age as me, gigantic cedar tree that I can go in and hide and masturbate if I want to, right in the front yard, I think that’s a good frame work for what I’m about to tell you
grew up in very conservative religious background, lucky enough to have parents that were open sexually, even though 70s, father was deeply wounded emotionally and spiritually by the Vietnam war, I came into a world of turmoil and chaos
parents thought sex was a very important part of life, educated to embrace sex and its beauty
went to church, encouraged to wait until marriage to engage sexually, parents didn’t subscribe to that
even though baptist church, it was quite moderate. The horror stories about fundamentalist religions weren’t a reality
always cared for, always loved
when got into high school, more than before, became problem child
asked questions you’re not supposed to ask
Jesus never got married, how old was he when he did, is there anything in the bible about him having sex with anyone, because you’re not supposed to have sex before marriage, does that mean that Jesus never got to do you want me to die a 33 year old virgin, nailed on a cross
pleaded with youth minister to talk, he looked at me with kind eyes, I feel like a lot of people are asking the questions you’re asking but you’re the only one with courage to ask, I wonder what Jesus’ sex life was like
he got married, after wedding we all looked with longing, maybe he’s getting some now
still what really impressive, miraculously I was not shunned, encouraged to explore curiosity
curiosity is a foundational root of what it means to be on a tantric path
heard of tantra first from sister, she said, have you ever heard that there’s certain guys in the world that instead of ejaculating, they use that energy for other things and have these trippy experiences
didn’t hear the word again for many years, didn’t have sex with anyone all the way from puberty until I was 22 years old, partly because of religious upbringing, and partly because of craving, longing, excitement related to men, attributed it to admiration
if I would see a hunky guy there was a certain excitement
also noticed going on dates with women, it was done from a place of attempting to please relatives, to convince them I was normal
greatest obsession was to study all day saturday, for international science fair, studied sun spots through a telescope every day, instead of having sex
while every body else was exploring sexuality if they were lucky, I was at the library, I was a total nerd
went to church every sunday, even when parents quit going, I was the spiritual leader of the family, always asked to say the prayer
what’s more relevant, I remained disconnected from other people sexually all through college
I was religious but at the same time rebellious
celebrate new years in florida with my cousin
I wonder what jesus’ sex life was life, I’m 22, I don’t really want to die a virgin
willing to find any woman who’d be willing to experiment with me
wasn’t able to find anyone that wanted to go to bed with me
story going on in my mind, maybe people who go to bed with people of same sex was because they couldn’t get in bed with someone of the same sex
the story I got about homosexuality was not pretty, not positive, not encouraging, it was scary
tantra, in retrospect, for all the years that I wasn’t having sex I was pursuing other passions and putting a lot of energy into really creative work
how did I ever get on a tantric path, all the times masturbated by myself, I was on a tantric path, I was harnessing my energy and putting into what I cared about even when I wasn’t having sex
learned how to take self into fits of excitement and ecstasy, at that age I ejaculated a lot, so I found every creative way to shoot my cum all over the place
I became my most devoted and delighted sex partner
I had a lot of fun by myself, didn’t know til in college, most guys masturbate with their hand
I actually found it much more pleasurable to fuck the bed, I would writhe and squirm all over soft sheets and make noises into the pillow, I loved ejaculating onto the sheets, didn’t realize that not everybody did that
cultivating an ecstatic whole body practice
when I did find a willing, exuberant, excited sex partner, the ecstasy I had been cultivating on my own 9 years, was over the top with another human being, on top of a wonderful man’s body in Alaska, marvelous orgasm after orgasm for hours, must have ejaculated 4 or 5 times, I was still 22, now looking back, years of whole body jack off fun by myself became the foundation for years of euphoric sexual bliss with other men
the tantric path made itself known to me, overtly around the year 2000, I was 26 years old, had been in a corporate job for several years, traveling back and forth to Siberia, environmental consult to gold mining companies, had no sex life
Still investing in what I really cared about, didn’t have sex partners other than self
sit in closet, get high smoking pot, get out a stack of porn mags, started to noticed even though all my porn mags had women in them, they also had men, loved to seeing men’s cum, loved seeing to men and woman together, undeniable theme
one night jacking of in the closet by myself and said, wow I live in a city of 100,000 people, there must be someone else out there who would love to do this with me right now
ventured out of closet, went to a bar, chatted up the cutest guys I could find and I had hours and hours and hours of mind blowing sex as often as I liked, if there had been any guilt or shame or trepidation, I took 9 years to get over it
when I came out the closet, I came out with flying colors
tantric path continued, something was happening that was not normal, not typical
I would be making love with a guy, no penetration with first 20 or 30 partners I enjoyed, always face to face body to body cock to cock lips to lips, over the top orgasmic, wasn’t any penetration but would find that, would allow self to completely lose myself, didn’t have to hold on to earthly reality, go flying, when I would come to, the men I would be with would be like, “dude I have neighbors”, what do you mean what do they have to do with anything, well you’re making a lot of noise man, what else would I do I’ve waited 9 years to enjoy this
they would enjoy it but they would try to shut me down
I hear this from friends when they make love with women, always concerned with how big it’s gonna be and how loud
at present moment I hold play parties for people of all genders, last play party, all of the noise that came out of my house was the screaming orgasms of women, didn’t hear men making any noise, windows were open, screams going through whole neighborhood
I told everybody in the beginning, it’s spring time its hot windows open, if you’re going to scream and orgasm, consider that a blessing to the people who live here, whatever you’re facing aim that energy into the earth, that it can bless this ground that has suffered so much for so many generations and so that the people near by can be blessed, consider the people on this continent that are hurting and let your waves reach those people
and I heard a lot of screaming from women, because, frankly I don’t know how many places in the world we have sanctuary to really allow that unstoppable orgasm to come out, I really feel it has frightened men for a long time, it frightened many of my sex partners early on
I had never been with anyone, I had only been with my ecstatic self, when nobody was home in my parents house, I was shouting hallelujah, I was screaming because it felt so fucking good, I didn’ tknow anything about holding it back
learned about body electric school in 1999, had been hearing more about this tantric thing
workshops where guys rubbed on one another’s cocks, and they would see colors, and visions , and maybe speak in tongues
room full of men would go into whole body orgasmic bliss but nobody ejaculated
it was really trendy in the 90s, a lot of people talked about it, wow I did it and I saw colors
I could travel back and forth in time, very different than what I was seeing in porn, to this day when I watch porn, still haven’t seen one that shows people having a transcendental experience, where they’re flying above the oceans and swimming with the dolphins while they make love
still waiting, when I make love I get to swim through oceans, I get to hear the whales, I get to smell the salt air, I get to travel through the world and its what I want for people to know more anything is that in addition to being a fuck load of fun to have sex, it’s also a vehicle that connects us to everything alive on the earth, and everything that ever has lived, no such thing as death, people that came before are here alive and we can visit with them, this is the potential of our sex, that I’m not hearing spoken about except out of my own mouth,
my tantra speaker spoke about it when I finally tantra, after the body electric school, where I went to workshops where men rubbed on each other’s cocks like a magic jenie bottle and transcendental experiences
when I was invited to my first tantra workshop I said well what is it, is it a tantra massage and he said no, it’s tantra
you mean tantra is different than massage, he said yeah it is
I went to this workshop in a log cabin, with some one to this day I consider to be one of the most authentic and resonant lineages of tantra that I have found, rudolph valentine
we do this tantra workshop in a log cabin, it’s hot, but there’s a pond and we bathe in a pond
it’s great we’ve done it lots of time, you should come, so I did
12 men there, all got naked, lined up on bank of pond, farm pond with frogs in it, every few minutes, hear them and nights sounds, crickets, we all line up, leader motions for us to take step forward, 12 men take a step into this pond with water up to our chest, remembered grandmother, I remembered her saying she was baptized in a pond, as soon as that thought came to me, the workshop leaders invited us to get into a circle, the two of them got into the center of the circle and they invited the first person to step in to the center of the circle, I thought are they really gonna do what I think they’re gonna do, I decided to go first, I stepped into the circle, one of them put his hand behind my head, the other held my hand, they both looked at me and I knew what was happening, they nodded as if to signal are you ready, I shook my head,i let out a wail, I stood in the middle of this pond with 9 men surrounding me, and two holding me in the center, and I wailed, I felt the sorrow and the disconnection of how I had been to be loved and cherished by a spiritual community and the pain of how it felt to be disconnected from your spiritual roots, in my heart I had a prayer that this time I would embark on a spiritual path that would hold everything that I am and allow me to be everything that I could be, and had room for every part of me, all of me the slut the priest, the father the son the man the woman everything in side of me the dark the light I wanted that path that could hold me, that was what tantra was, that was what tantra meant
I nodded, and they immersed me in the water and I had my second baptism, the first time was inside of a church when I was 6 years old inside of tank, they put you in this paper robe, and they bring you up out of the water and the whole church can see you all wet, with this paper clinging to your body
here I was in the pond, naked being baptized, this is the way to do it
moments in the workshop: looked at one of the teachers and said I’m so glad that I finally met my teacher, what do you mean, you’ve already had a teacher, what are you talking about, because you told me about the person that taught you everything, everything you already need to know about tantra was already taught to me, who was it, he said, your grandmother
my grandmother was a master at finding light in the darkness and master of turning obstacles into means, when I finally did meet my tantra teachers, 28 years after I first met my grandmother they told me the same things that she had, they were just the first to put it into words, my grandmother always had plenty when there was nothing, she had joy even when she lived in hell, she found heaven in hell, I’m sitting right now in the house that she lived and died in
my tantra teachers told me that tantra is the consummation of the inner marriage and while some of us look for a partner outside of ourselves to marry, most of us skip the essential step of finding that partner within ourselves first, I had a lot of time to practice that inner marriage, it’s a never ending relationship just like any marriage
shadow work, all of those pieces of ourselves that we think are ugly that we wouldn’t want others to know
its an instinct, there’s a part in us that isn’t always happy
part of us that feels angry, part of us that feels scared, there’s a part of us that feels enraptured, a part of us that feels enraged, the further we walk on the tantra path we’re prompted to see that there’s a place for all of this, to find the marriage of these opposites, the ultimate journey of what tantra really is all about
one more thing I want to add, I happen to be a gay man, I really love the word faggot, I embrace that word as part of my magic, and I happen to be a faggot who really loves to make love with women who love faggots, have had ecstatically joyful partners who were female, I had to embrace my delight and love of other men, before I could allow myself to be the complete faggot I am in bed with women
had precisely two maybe three ecstatic female lovers, they are female lovers that really love gay men,it’s really helped me to see the perfection that a lot of men who have sex almost exclusively with women, also have the complete right to enjoy sexual freedom with other men without necessarily having to put a label on it
visually when I look at women’s bodies, I can admire them I can appreciate the embodiment of the goddess and yet its way different, it’s not like a look at a woman and go I really want to have that right now, I really only objectify men
what happens with women, I approach it as an opportunity to commune with the divine, pathway that connects us with the divine, it no longer matters how old they are, how fat or thin they are, kinda fem or kinda butch, doesn’t matter what gender they are, if you’ve found source of your erotic expression in yourself and you love erotic expression for the pure excitement and sake of erotic expression it is possible to journey ecstatically and cathartically with a wide diversity of partners, some people ask me, how can you have sex with someone you’re not attracted to
one of my primary lovers is twice my age, I’m in my 40s, one of my lovers is in his 80s, we have some of the most transcendental experiences that I have with any partner, I make love with people not because of the way they look or how old they are, but authentically because I want to commune with the divine, I like to travel I like to transcend time and space, I get a lot of insight and guidance for what I’m gonna do with my life when I’m in that state, that’s why I make love
people say what type of person are you into, what type of person turns you on, I say a person who’s fuckin as excited as fuck to make love with me, that’s the kind that really turns me on, if they’re excited, I’m excited, if I’m excited they’re excited, there’s a resonance, that transcends appearance, age, social class all that bullshit
women, I’m really grateful for women because, making love with women was like, a later stage threshold that I crossed because that was when I really recognized, wow, I can have a transcendental erotic experience, and be a faggot with a person of any gender, I can, it can’t just be anyone, it has to be someone who knows we’re on a journey, and we’re connecting with something bigger than ourselves, if a woman just wants my dick its not gonna work, lots of time I don’t even get hard when I have sex, if I’m in a cathartic whole body state nobodies paying attention to how hard my dick is, that would be a liberating lesson if more men in the world were able to feel that the ability to connect ecstatically with the divine and another human being is completely independent of what they’re cock is doing, that’s radical
some of the most whole body orgasmic states I’ve ever experienced and witnessed were with people who’s cocks weren’t hard, don’t get me wrong I love hard dick AND there are a lot of ways to go into cathartic whole body ecstasy
homophobia…i barely use the word anymore, don’t often feel like I’m battling homophobia, which is a beautiful place to be
our world really does shift with the shift of our inner perception, the transformation of ourselves and planet using sexual pleasure, what I’m really asking of people to invite ourselves to consider that ecstatic sexual pleasure is available to far more of us than we’ve ever dreamed
we feel we need a partner of a certain type, in reality if we join with other partners who recognized that we have the opportunity to fly, to sail through the skies and the seas, experience realities beyond what we see, what meets the eye, we have the opportunity to go into multiple realities, the future on planet earth is that we’re going to see a world more filled with people who are excited about having sex with a variety of partners, less focused on getting hard, ejaculating, and fulfilling a whole checklist of what they think needs to be done to have great sex, and focusing more on oh my god, we have an energy field right now where if we introduce the faintest intention, that is going to manifest, as soon as we say it is done
10 years ago I spoke the impossible, I was in a native american ceremony with 100 queer people and I was asked why I came and I said I want to see the day when our people can fuck and enjoy the fuck out of each other and squirt our seed inside of one another and know we’re actually healing one another not killing one another
full on sexual delight was some how equated with death
I want our people to be able to share our medicine free from fear, healing each other not killing each other, I had no way of conceiving how that would be possible, today there are multiple opportunities for people to enjoy sexual pleasure with people of all genders like never before free from fear, a lot of people are using Prep, they’re taking something that allows them to free themselves from the acute anxiety that has for all too long accompanied them and their sex
not an advocate, or promoter, nor do I discourage people to use things things
the world has transformed, we have sex with each other for healing and health
its what brings us life
what’s coming up, the most exciting thing happening in my tantric path, is the gay tantra podcast
12/31/19 I issued the first episode, it was pretty hard core, it was a hard core sex scene, interspersed with sacred magic, to alert people that raunch, kink, and downright ass fucking is integrated with magic and health and healing, followed with talk with 8 other men, with how tantra relates to sex among men, created an exercise people can do
I’ve contributed to the creation of over 120 evolutionary gay erotic videos, all on my website:
on the home page, I have links to the evolutionary gay erotic videos, gay tantra podcast, soon more links to upcoming events world wide
Jason Tantra and partner, created an app, that allows conscientious gay men who are exploring other realms of sexual magic and healing to meet each other, created at the same time as the gay tantra podcast, master of mind of universe created the gay tantra podcast and tantra4gaymen app at the same time
even if you’re not gay, you just occasionally like to suck dick, listen to the gay tantra podcast
event’s coming up, will be posted on website, announced on gay tantra
series I’m most excited about is a series that teaches people how to use , or harness their sexual pleasure as a tool to connect with higher sources of wisdom and information: transcendental sexuality
receive insight, new knowledge, and information
super excited some of the videos I created are still being edited
it’s a really evolutionary time to live on earth, it’s an evolutionary time for men who are exploring conscious sexuality with other men, unifications happening through colleagues, Jason Tantra, Davey Wavey, collaboration on videos
a network has been created that’s spanning the globe, super excited about gay tantra as a platform
each month an exercise as part of the series, free guided sexercises, more to come
In this episode I’m joined by Alex Mill for a delightful exploration of her multi-media and multi-modality artistic and healing works. She shares her background in story-telling through film making of all kinds. After many great accomplishments in the industry she tells of her yearning for deeper spiritual practice, thus her path of developing her skills in the healing arts. We learn about the science and practice of theta healing and her unique integration of ancient mythological and cosmological concepts of divine masculine and feminine energy. It was exciting to hear her way of explaining esoteric concepts in very down to earth and easy to compute terms. Ultimately our discussion ends with a brief inquiry into the role and future of machine learning and artificial intelligence as a means to shed light on humanity’s strengths and weaknesses.
Alex has merged her 10 years of storytelling experience as a filmmaker, with her personal spiritual explorations of how the sexual energy is capable of raising our level of consciousness, and created the field of Mindful Sexuality. Tuning into her clients’ personal narrative, Alex has helped people all around the world to craft a Life Story they’re grateful to experience and proud to share. Using a unique mixture of Theta Healing, Egyptian, Chinese and Indian Tantric mind/body/spirit practices and a dash of modern scientific understanding, she’s teaching people how to heal from old personal stories and how to embody their highest, true potential.
Event at Liberate Hollywood on February 3rd at 7pm —
Different Desires, Shared Pleasures of the Divine Masculine & Sacred Feminine
My (non-verbatim) notes from the show:
Mindful sexuality coach
Entire background in film making, narrative, story telling
All about people’s personal stories
The way we exist in our own language, is literally shaping and forming how we see our reality, our worldview
Through sexual energy, connect mind and body
Look at the first relationship that gets messed up, our own mind, body and spirit
After 10 years of film making, no matter how much worldly success, or achievement, not finding fulfillment
Not finding right collaborators, giving too much, getting too little
Not able to contribute what was inside
Through personal practice, always ended up being the relationship coach in circle of friends
Love working with men, there’s a lack of emotional awareness or emotional access to the depth of purpose within people
Sexual energy, life force energy that we were made of
Learn to tap into that energy
Mind-body practices helped first to be able to tap into what my purpose is, mission in the world
Discipline, inner drive for a life-time practice, not just a hobby
Done enough healing so I can go back to the world and contribute and give to others
Lived for past seven years in London, currently in Spain
Assistant directing, commercials, indy films, music videos, big studio films
The filmmaking side is not about me, it extended my field of vision
Such levels of collaborations, I know it’s going to shape the world
There’s a calling to bring a level of awareness and consciousness to the film making community so we are creating content for soul fulfillment
We’re putting screens into the hands of children
Grew up on movies, in the 90s
Relationship misalignments, coming from deeply ingrained story telling narratives that are not useful, might be entertaining, has to be crisis and making, up, and those in real life were not serving me
New ways of story telling, educating people, film is so accessible and fun way of connecting
We’re watching people emoting from our very safe space
Learning how to be a human being through those characters
Excited to bring knowledge back to the film community
Current project, calling it a bingeable Netflix type thing, choose your adventure type story, made of completely eccentric and genre mixing bits of short pieces told from perspective of four characters
Issues tackling, parent child relationships, human ai relationships, media relationships
What if for 20 years, complete ban on all human reproduction, 2040 we’re deciding who will be the next parents, what would a completely adult society look like, massive chunk of adult society are turning back to childish ways in good and in bad ways.
It’s multi platform, planning to take beyond just film media, maybe a video game outlet or a book outlet or anything that contributes
More people bringing in vastly different talents
Open up to something that is gonna be a shared achievement
Culture impact, that can affect political changes
Never want to have political career but wish to see political changes
Issues of sex money and power
Theta healer, abundance guide
We are living in an abundant universe, beyond money, beyond addictive relationship with money
Living up to full potential, giving gifts to the world
Good grip of how you are showing up in the world
I still like having 1 on 1 clients, that’s the most in depth work that I get to do
Fascinated with group healing sessions
Realized, it always starts from healing
We are always digging into deeper and deeper issues of what’s behind
Deeper healing is always needed
Through group healing sessions I’m escalating
Tap into the power of collective consciousness so we don’t feel isolated with our problems
Whatever we call our pain, our suffering, our issues, very shared issues and problems and feelings
During the summer planning to put together retreats, that’s the mixture of deep 1 on 1 and deep group work
Pinnacle of my summer
Making profound shifts and changes in people’s lives
Anything that I teach is about the practice
Not just learning information, take it into your body and make it into a life time practice, changing from within showing up to yourself and in relationships differently
That has such a beautiful ripple effect, you get to see you’re not just for yourself, you have the resources and the access to give back to other people
technical background, theta healing course in London
Gorgeous goddess of theta healing in London, taught so much
Such a beautiful journey, to be able to see it from a lady
Unusual to see women in such powerful positions, she can instant heal people in front of you
The science behind it, it’s out of a lot of people’s price range to do biofeedback training
The crash course training of the visceral experience of how different brainwaves feel in side you, you get to control and dip into different states of consciousness, different brainwaves
They work as an orchestra
Alpha light, meditational state, relaxational
Theta deep meditational
Delta deep sleep
Gamma, high alertness state of bless and joy
all of those 5 different brainwaves, at all times we are operating on all states in different amounts,
just like an orchestra, some times someone takes a solo, doesn’t mean other 4 or 5 aren’t present
to utilize one is a skill that none of us are taught
religiously follow work of Joe Dispensa
We all have the ability to go into these states, it’s just the practice that we’re lacking
A lot of conditioning, programming, before age 7, in a theta state, things are deeply ingrained, they start to operate us, your conscious ability to chose your response instead of an automatic reaction, that conscious ability is filtered for most people, by layering and layering
Theta healing, the practitioner maintains a brainwave state, the client doesn’t need to, so it’s not hypnosis
Traditional sessions the client doesn’t need to be in the state
Through quantum entanglement we are so interlinked, intimately interlinked
It can be misused, it can be manipulated, healers have a such a powerful position, have such a responsibility to take to guide them on a journey
I explain everything that I’m doing, I guide people through so that when the step up, they’re not dependent on the practitioner, they leave the session with the ability to practice on themselves.
Real scientific background that we’re catching up with.
If you’re more feminine inclined, then intuitively you’re getting the power, your’e getting the ability to connect with yourself.
Work on whatever is holding you back, clear those old programs and replace them with useful ones
Regarding super powers, super heros, villains, good guys and bad guys:
When you’re a bad guy, i would imagine that consciously you’d have to relinquish your judgement, when you’re not judging anymore you open yourself up to be the empty space to receive powers from way beyond yourself, you become this earthly channel of energies that are superceding your own personal self centered consciousness
Go beyond the self, which ever deity you chose you’re tapping into powers that are way beyond normal average human functioning, we need to be able to recognize that this judgement is the only thing that’s holding us back from becoming those deities
Looking within, going inwards and embodying those powers within us, those are our birthrights, those are facets of the consciouness that we are
Look at world through lens of feminine masculine energy, duality consciousness, polarity consciousness, shifting to paradigm of unity consciousness, using them in dynamic merge, embodying those messages within ourselves, standard disclaimer, do not equate to masculinity and femininity, not dependent on gender, orientation, preferences, sexual identity, cosmic forces, shiva the pure light of consciousness, that’s incapable of experiencing himself, that’s the masculine energy, and the pure experience of reality that is always moving, always dancing around this conscious energy, that’s shakti, that’s the feminine energy
When you’re becoming the space, when you’re becoming your own manifestation, directionality, omni directionality,
or use for relationship problems, feel into which energy is missing or lacking and you can substitute
that’s the cosmic part
I’m fascinated with mythology
scientific and mystical explanations of religion
I love sacred geometry
To communicate what i’m doing to people with no knowledge, the language of these two energies is very accessible
For very down to earth problems, were you in your masculine or your feminine, how are they showing up in your every day relate
show up for partner in more heart centered more unity consciousness way
from the scientific point of view, we’re electromagnetic beings, so our body, our cells communicate with each other with electricity
heart and mind, electromagnetic field
whatever you learn from mythological, or geometrical, or the woo woo side of explanations of what the feminine and masculine cosmic energy are, they exist within your own body in a scientific, measurable, biological, biochemical way, they show up in your biofield
the electric force is the direct communication between your cells, the magnetic force is this curving energy field around you that’s swirling, that’s omindirectional, whenever you want to use it, whenever you want to tap into it, whenever youw atn tto have a direct access to something, electrical forces are triggered in your body
when you want to attract anything
when you feel how energy moves in your body, that’s another element
utilize those forces within you
that’s the scientific part
when we have the more left brain inclined explanation of whatever has been out in story form for 1000s of years and now were discovering that breathing exercises work in a specific way because they literally open op energetic channels within your body, your prana tube, your energy tube within the center of your body is intimately interlinked with your spinal column
whenever you learn how to mover energy through your muscles around your spinal column you’re tapping into your kundalini, prana life force energy
starting to communicate very old paradigms and give it a more scientific language
shifting from the paradigm from duality consciousness into unity consciousness
the feminine side use to be the mythological narrative, now we’re giving it a more left brain more masculine understanding
bioelectricy, chemistry, dna, gene expression
merging storytelling side with scientific side
Study the way we have put together AI, reflecting back to how our consciousness is creating us
AI, studies with chimpanzees, have amazing visual memory, whatever they are using their consciousness for is developed in different ways
Our memories, our ability to retain data and information was compromised in favor of language, or collaboration, social connections, social connections
AI bridging the gap of the more technical, more linear, more streamlined functions of consciousness such as memory, computing, data
The more creative functions, the more creative, emotional, they are something that AI is incapable of doing
If we learn how to code those things into AI, but what we’re learning from what machines learn by themselves, they have a specific skill set that’s way better than the human skill set
Instead of trying to craft AI that’s closer to the human experience, it’s more exciting to harness the asset of AI that we are incapable of reaching, maybe we can learn from AI
ending with silence
silencing self judgment,
listen beyond doubts and fears
whatever you meet is the infinitely powerful self of yours
In this episode I’m joined again by dear friend and tantric comrade Devika the Techy Tantrika for a review of the anti-Hindu, anti-yoga, anti-tantra religious propaganda film “Gods of the New Age”. We share notes on how we feel it is the like the Reefer Madness of tantra, and almost a classic satyrical mockumentary. Beyond the hilarity, we explore the importance of critical thinking and anthropological rigor in the study of culture and while comparing religions. I also express that I feel it has great value as a teaching tool to help future tantra seekers understand legitimate critiques of historical corruption within the tradition and movement, though with a healthy skepticism of the motives and bias of the film’s producers.
Check out our first episode for more info on her personal backstory:
Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.
You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika
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You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com
In this episode I’m joined by Wendy Newman, a highly accomplished sex and relationship expert for an epic exploration of her wisdom for modern dating and intimate relating. She is a rare treasure having spent many years researching and practicing her craft. We learn about her personal journey and compare notes on how to how to evolve past old defaults of the patriarchal paradigm.
Please visit her website at: https://wendyspeaks.com/
And join her Inner Circle at: https://www.patreon.com/wendynewman
Wendy Newman is a media-celebrated author, and a dating, sex and relationship expert who’s led hundreds of workshops and revolutionized the lives of over 60,000+ women internationally. She guides women to understand men, dating, sex, and partnership of all kinds.
Since 2002, Wendy has interviewed thousands of men on relationships, love, dating, intimacy, sex, and the opposite sex. She’s conducted polls, had one-on-one discussions, and hosted over hundred male speaker panels for these topics.
Wendy is a compassionate fellow dater who navigated her way through 120 first dates before meeting her husband, Dave, lucky #121. They live in San Francisco.
Her book, 121 First Dates: How to Succeed at Online Dating, Fall in Love and Live Happily Ever After (Really!) is part juicy tell-all, part anti-rules dating guide. It’s been optioned for a television series.
You can find Wendy’s articles, features, interviews and expert advice through the following media outlets: Access Hollywood, The Wall Street Journal, U.S. News, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, The Daily Telegraph (Australia), Meetic (France), Glamour, Redbook, Self, Huffington Post, Men’s Health, Men’s Journal, Elle (Canada), Honey (Australia), Salon, Your Tango, Refinery 29, Ask Men, Thought Catalog, Brit + Co, She Knows, Bustle and more.
This is a Tantric devotional/instructional love song that teaches the core methodology of honoring each other as God/Goddess and entering into sacred union to achieve a state of divine grace and experience ecstatic altered states of bliss. The lyrics and melody were channeled in a ritual goddess worship session. It felt as if it was dripping into my crown chakra vortex, as if shakti was secreting it like nectar.
I made a demo version of the track with all acoustic instruments, and my dear bro Nuno remixed this version as Ninesense.
Please sing and dance along with your lover:
Om my goddess
Om my god
Om my goddess
Om my god
Om my god/dess
I love you
I thank you
Patriarchy has denied
Shamed and brutalized
We must resacrilize
Body temples as divine
Sit on my lap
Legs around your back
Look into my eyes
Cycle up the spine
The energy inside
Open the third eye
DMT will flood your mind
If you want to see the light
You must last all night
Pray between my thighs
Meditate while I’m inside
In this episode I’m joined by Devika the Techy Tanktrika (devika-singh.com) and Sagrada, for a commentary on the movie the Golden Child which was a favorite movie of mine growing up and is a masterpiece of tantric sexual-spiritual education.
We share our common interests in the themes of the film and share thoughts as it rolls in the background on the significance of each scene as it relates to our life experience in tantra and beyond.
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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number so yeah it’s going to be around table Extravaganza with this Golden Child movie which is so near and dear to my childhood in which took me like 35 years to decode and now I realize everything everything I’ve ever cared to know about Tantra I learned all ready for my age of eight by Eddie Murphy so go figure you got between Eddie Murphy and and Barney the purple dinosaur you know you heard about that right amazing Barney the purple dinosaur yeah he’s that he’s a tantric sex healing master and you need provides a full-service tantric sex work for women who can afford the the billina and I guess yeah he’s just like he’s got Prana just to spare you know so I can check them out on Twitter to that’s how I that’s how I tracked him down sweet. One of these days we got ya at him and Eddie Murphy anytime you’re welcome on the township of podcasts do this tell us all about how it’s done cool so yeah then so we all at this point I’ve watched this movie probably a hundred times and you all have watched it probably one time each and I introduce it to you for devika because this is kind of like your stick is the the tantric Buddhism and the everything I started to learn from you and that was new to me about Tantra that was very much foodist into nature it would just match up to a lot of the symbolism and mythology and storyline of The Golden Child So before we get started with this this experimental commentary we’re just going to play it in the background and just react to it as it goes along it will will let people know where to queue it up from and make sure we’re all on the base of the same starting point but but before we do that would be great just to have a few thoughts of yours that we could just serve your kind of initial debrief analysis thought stream that comes from really having probably a lot more of a sense of what’s going on then the most people in Innisfil oh for sure you know I am looking at it and I’m Amazed by the accuracy of certain things in the sense that this was before the internet has access to your specialty Buddhist communities in this case but what I found particularly interesting is that I know I sent you this documentary called the on the steak and child and was created in 2008 and there was there was a lot of overlap in the sense because in The Golden Child we see this child but you know is said to be the sacred leader from you know prior life and the whole and I mean I don’t get too much into that part because we’ll see it anyways the beginning of the movie but this whole concept of finding this child because it’s important to their word to their community and there’s there’s so much historical in the bite behind that and I just found it amazing that they chose that seem to go along with in this movie I would love to know more about what inspired that this might be because there’s even like a you know we’ll see parts of the beginning where I’m just like yeah okay they they know what’s up they they have a pretty good understanding of the selection process wedding you know possible children who could be these leaders if they’re looking for so that’s pretty amazing and you know it at the same time this movie is also a testament to its time in the sense that it really is you know there are still a couple things that you know we wouldn’t I think this early due today would probably try to do better but I was still quite impressed by that and some of the relics what I saw in the shower I’m so yeah I’m really glad that you brought this phone to my attention bed awesome yeah it’s been accepted by I’ve been dreaming about for a long time cuz I somebody somebody besides me has got to enjoy this as much as I do and I feel like I haven’t found the found that tribe people that can see it from both both perspectives and you know the quick Point I’ve done a little bit of research into the origins of the just reading the Wikipedia and there’s also I’m going to digest the the the magic some notes on the Oliver Harper retrospective commentary where he did a review of the film and he brought up a lot of obscure film sack toys and things about it but but it is interesting to note that it was yeah it was originally intended to be a very serious kind of Adventure Thriller experience and then it’s I think somewhere relatively close to the last minute of getting close to production they just flipped the script Eddie Murphy came in and they decided to make it this way more tongue and cheek experience which totally works and it’s it’s just like so magical I just know when a movie has magic and when it just doesn’t and this just has it and it would not compute but it’s so after I think for westerners to have an entry point of the skepticism of anything mystical and then ething anything of that nature and so he gives you that sort of comic relief of how to approach this from as an American you know and American hero archetype to he’s like the wolf will go into it as we go along but but I will save us all feel free to to somewhat somewhat gracefully interrupt each other if there’s like an Uber we got to make a point about what’s going on cuz we can come in and get off them to the Weeds about about just exploring different aspects but if something comes up on the screen you don’t feel free to just like blurt it out and hopefully we won’t need deposit or back up or anything that could get confusing but I will just go along and and and do like the great says that the other commentators I really like that our form so so yeah without further Ado let’s see if we can kind of get a little bit synced up here so how about let’s try to get it to Missy we’re going at we’re at the point where it’s going to give the like Studio logo mountain range thing in like see see what happens like right after that way we can get pitch like the first title or something like that so so we’ll just let me try to keep it up after the Paramount sign or exactly what is like the first thing that happens right after and then we’ll start there so there’s a balance to the very very beginning of a so alright so we’re at the same point was just let it roll and then by all means tell us what we need to see you read between the lines I I certainly can’t a lot of stuff I wouldn’t pick up on so yeah translate what’s happening hey so it’s definitely taking place in a monastery them suspecting there intending a trailer to be into batter even the Paula because a lot of Tibetans did end up the fun facts or interesting fact rather there is a lot of Tibetan Monks in Nepal can you kill the audio on that sorry we’re going to just okay as you’re saying so much see her The Golden Child is actually a girl to I know that really yeah that is so cool because a lot of the times when we’re looking at actual Encounters of people looking for a previous leaders that usually layer usually looking for boys like I mean not explicitly stated but a lot of the children who have been found in these lineages are boys so that’s that’s pretty cool Russian Tea actually there is an ambiguity They Don’t Really emphasize whether the child has you know what whatever their gender is or non-gender so I think that maybe early makes this ahead of its time so she would give me information you have been sorry earthquake in Nepal a few years ago and they had in mythology that that there was a basically there was a goddess Temple that was spared and there was it a female child of devotion who was in that building and they kind of reaffirm their prophecy that that don’t don’t mess with the goddess Temple or you’ll get the rest you know is like a people were able to read into it what so we just saw some offerings be made and this is her actual Nala from a previous life and it’s really interesting how they did that cuz they gave them and they gave her those three to choose from and she knew which one was hers when she was knowing what that luggage was exactly having some sort of amnesia all right and then we’re going to see the power to restore life which is foreshadowing but we won’t spoil spoil it now she’s picking implements that there’s another process they think what they do they really cool before CGI really was a thing so they’re using real person just amazing to me so here goes the beginning of this raid and you never I guess if you knew more about the the the costuming that you might get some clues about where exactly they’re supposed to be from there or if they’re just like a ragtag band of goons working for the dark Lords of the Underworld did you have any sense of if they were representing some I mean like in Indiana Jones Temple of Doom they actually were explicit about that it was the thuggee cult that they were trying to represent what shall we say it in but there’s no real ID you seem like a good dark spiritual gangsters or something actually seen this sorrow costuming another Buddhist related media as well and I mean I see it I think of Siberian tribes but + communities but I’m very clearly there’s there’s obviously utility in having those typos wardrobe in cold areas right I just reminds me so much of a Game of Thrones character I was going to ask what what statue is behind can we see what statue is behind the child or is it just a question but I think you’re right like I was only imagine what they would have put me in tibetan Buddha but I honestly I can’t see it right now. Thing not to throw any any Asha monoculture under the bus but I know there is some extremely like Twisted Black time for coats out of there but it’s also the place that the word Shamanism comes from so it’s not all there is a lot of Tibetan black magic to there’s one Buddha who actually started off in tibetan black magic and his is a very long story will get into but eventually renounces it and goes on to the Buddhist no path and that’s basically his whole story this whole Jam so yeah there are there is there I mean in any for every lineage there’s always going to be you know a left pop right path dark path you know like there’s obviously always great Pops to right but yeah you’re going to get a variety of different paths with any any spiritual lineage really we we passed it a little bit but was there any significance to the cage are the reason why they needed to basically come like some from Destin yes I just like I would look like one of those Claws from Anarchy okay yeah I don’t know what to say about this what’s happening here it’s the pretty much exactly hey I’m all for the chunky asses I’m okay with this Ray why does he have to be ashamed of it he should be like seeing and dancing and worshipping the chunky asses as they walked by it’s so sad actually kind of seeing him just kind of being like okay I want to go now or you know so what we were referring to is this Montage that’s happening of American looks like l a Hollywood mostly and Eddie Murphy’s walking down the street putting up posters for a missing child who he’s he’s basically like somewhere in between I don’t think he actually is the cop maybe he’s an ex-cop but he’s like a private detective / Bounty Hunter / they caught ya like he puts Outpost reward for missing children so he’s some kind of like benevolent charitable Bounty Hunter kind of thing for lost children and they never really get into why that’s his thing but he’s definitely just plays the part very well as like a man on a mission and but he was at a newsstand and he finds a guy reading a porno magazine anybody makes fun of them in the car runs away and yeah he’s just reacting to everything going on and then we get to a point that I always I always drive to not be that guy but I know that I am so much like they make this I’m talking about right the host of the show who talks too much you are never liked that bad because that’s why I like doing your podcast like you know if you invite me I’m always grateful because I think you know if we always have good exchange mint got all three of us are here too because we’re not let you know I agree I think I mean you definitely let people finish what they’re saying then at least she let the message get across we can hold it for a sign you’re not the only the mic but this guy here I kind of like I kind of remember when there is like shows like this really everybody has 5 Seconds daytime kind of cable access that was the him being on a TV like daytime look like maybe cable access talk show talking about the missing child and giving you some background details and then it’s cutting to this gorgeous Tibetan scholar women who just is holding down her Shakti so hard and just stands out as a character that you would almost never see her stoicism but her sort of Mastery and self-mastery and discipline in her disgust with everything sloppy about the West is so spoken to wish I were a boy find interesting because this actress she’s actually Irish and Colombian and in herself I was like she’s doing really well with the part but I mean if it was today we have a lot of variety I feel it would be hit a little more home to the nationality I would think of all the record I think she did a great job with this everything you just said yes and I will say that that if I were to whatever part of my my time Trek Adventure in life has been has been asserted from the groove been carved by Eddie Murphy than this woman has appeared in my life in the form of three different people and you’re one of them but basically like her entire character has been like split into three of my real life movie characters so I give you I bow down to you for bringing bring a part of that that Juju and save us both for your wonderful Journeys thank you both for sharing through you know mediums like this thank you yes I did now we get into their she finds him she believes he’s the finder of the Sacred finder of lost children that the chosen one and he said Urban Dynamic with the kids playing basketball with and he thinks she’s crazy because she’s telling him he’s the chosen one he needs to go to bed to rescue a child thinks he’s smoking Scrolls or he thinks she’s smoking skulls and plays with her scroll that is like the prophecy and heroes it up like a joint and makes fun of her for having smoked it and says Topps rookie scrub yeah I don’t know maybe Hollywood at this time felt like Eddie Murphy was going to bring this to the you know the Blockbuster and it’s interesting you know the way Americans will bring up other cultures you know but also prioritize maybe things that we care about our culture it’s just interesting the cultural play but I guess they couldn’t be one story without the other apps maybe in the trees and maybe even to this day it doesn’t even happen where you know cultures are appreciated for what they are not made fun of you know and juxtaposition but yeah I seen this though happened in the 80s you know I wouldn’t have thought that there would be a movie like this at all I know it’s really a great movie that I ended up enjoying it a lot and I do think Eddie Murphy yeah I can imagine it without him it just it is so magical he just I think about the movies that that you can just feel it it’s a it’s a pass no pass on the magic test for for all films I thinking and this one it just Mi hours it’s kind of like a lost boys to say comedy and horror and vampire and she saw work but so this is now we’re going to see some fast and stuff so they are investigating this crime scene he was tipped off that these that there was a young woman he was looking for The Runaway teenager kind of got into the underworld is found having been used as a blood sacrifice to pollute to try to see the The Golden Child polluted blood and they’re in this occult looks like a squad of a scooter renting this kind of disheveled house and turned it into a Black Magic Ritual complex where they’re putting looks like Sanskrit spells in the walls and and very very creepy very very heavy vibes yeah it’s like black country graffiti it’s so funny because I mean you know even you know what the oatmeal hell this stuff will look at it and be like there’s something very visceral to me about it yeah I agree that’s it to me to the oatmeal really gross me I did look corny in a little bit and then you don’t want to explain a little bit later that it’s to put basically poison the child I thought it was specifically there has to be this writing has to surround the child and then they have to like ingest things and that’s how you diminish the prices vary it just seems like it came from probably inaccurate source of whatever this this tradition is or this yeah yeah I totally I know I was really sitting there thinking to myself well what where was the black what source material were they Consulting with because it is I think it’s creepy because I feel like there’s some accuracy you know to to what might have been written or passed down through oral lineages or you know something like that when it comes to black tan talking about somebody somebody with a real scholar that they must have consulted with in a probably a lot to interview them at some point someday if I would get to this podcast to the point where I have the ability to maybe not Joe Rogan status but a piece to the point where I can talk to people who has agents and things and a lot of these writers they’re pretty obscure it’s not like they’re going to be need to get to a million assistance to find them in all of these writers were just in The Hired Guns and Things so would love to get them on here but this is a great seeing where he’s really now having to Grapple with the occult and the skepticism of the otherworldly demonology that she’s bring to him very seriously so he’s just making sure that we’ve been through this deadpan but he has to just block everything that she’s saying and she has to just kind of like roll with the punches and hang in there did any of you like watch this and think of Donkey from Shrek sometimes like you need documents I look at it and think of his role as donkey and every movie okay so no she’s got him semi on board at least to make a few meetings visit some people to try to try to win him over that he’s the gold that he’s the the chosen one and the golden child must be rescued by hand The Chosen One according to scripture to help she wants to introduce him to some some folks some authentic folks who are going to help him get the picture and and so they’re going to this like a herbal store like a Medicine Shoppe and he’s going to meet this half dragon half human lady who was who’s very erotic and very very interesting absolutely said I love her but her story makes me a little sad though I do a little bit later I don’t want to I don’t want to lose the moment they have a quite a mix of different esoteric parts of different cultures so this is Chinese folklore there’s a combination happening here because there’s a lot of overlap right so with another guy you’re going to find them in South Asia so they can be especially in Nepal Tibet there is talk of them in China and also in Thailand and I believe in Bali as well we see variations of the lure of the Naga people which usually it’s interesting you’ll find good and bad right with naga in this case it sounds like the Naga they’re referring to our not-so-nice especially when we talked about the ancestry and how her lineage became part Naga because her was her grandmother that was raped by a dragon I think is part of the story so yeah so you know there are there is a lot of folklore about the not being good and then in Buddhism we do come across a lot of still some really interesting stuff weather connected to wisdom and wisdom bearing there’s a very well-known Naga Faker call Naga Kanya and she is an enlightened being who is a wizard bear but there is a lot of folklore just as equally about dog of people being you know the offense not behaving like a wisdom bear necessarily like they’re angry so they’re definitely walking through Chinatown right now so that was probably just within the range like you said if the overlap of different people mess up together representing all the different coaches there I think we missed a funny line where was looking at one of the preparations and he asked what it is and he says something you know he just died I’m not going to butcher that the word he says what he says good herb is good to keep the Yang up and he goes nothing wrong with my yang totally app for anyone who is doing erectile dysfunction herbal preparations for Tantra you know therapist and counselors you know this dick is Eddie Murphy dick joke about cheese in the middle movie so odd to me because there’s a lot of pain medicine that does deal with erectile dysfunction in a sexual performance talking about just this aspect of you know we can look at cultures up to a certain extent it after that they’re kind of their to me you know not comprehended but rather sometimes people just make fun of them I was just having a talk with somebody on this week this weekend about it about that but the sad fact is up to what extent do we the society allow cultures to really know provide what they have to offer you know especially religious practices so there’s a lot we still want to see happen with that right but I digress but I mean yes we we do have a long way to go I think still was true acceptance and understanding and curiosity I think that’s the major part all right so we’re catching up on a few things thank you yet for for sharing that and kitchen history he was he left that place and then he tried to invite her up to his place and it failed like it landed he landed on his ass with that it’s him and and she was very cold cold blooded when he asked again if she said no twice and then he pulled this act of trying to act like he was possessed by the spirits to tell her that you should go up there so it’s definitely like it’s sad because that’s like quintessentially what all of the country trucker earape artist guys do is like oh I am the spirit I’m the Divine Shiva and I’m channeling you know your instructions to there’s guys she will charge women thousands of dollars for their blowjob Enlightenment courses and so that’s like where that all starts but appreciate you know she’s like she’s really better boundaries we love to happen but it didn’t in the movie I was expecting that cuz I don’t know you know Ben we’ll get there we’ll definitely get there like the though they don’t be a I love to see that the XXX version but but that happens it happens in his dream though it’s funny he has that will get there but so now they’re there at this 441 some of these these black magic gun guys are basically they’re tuned in to what’s going on in there will do they have like a hideout now in La where they’ve taken a child to the US and now they’re doing this desecrated geometry later they could just hang out where they’ve set up multiple meditators who have this sort of triangulation of energy to basically block out his ability to astral project so he had he or she he or she that The Golden Child the golden kid is able to see and understand also telekinetic so meditating and praying to knock over that bullet blood being like that’s a nice look they got an expression yeah give me a break you’re not going to poison me I’m smarter than all you guys and waiting for one of them to fall asleep just stirring do all this the CIA black-ops MacGyver stuff and then also eating this sacred Leaf that’s nourishing and must based on some scriptures about how you could be meditating forever and only subsist off of like pot leaves and things so like the sunlight but are the the other and then a little bit of vegetation right just just to sustain oneself no one of the evil meditators fell asleep on the job and then like the CL is broken and now the opportunity to astral project and to commune with Eddie Murphy the chosen one is going to create this difficulty for him to to shake the mysticism off and so the the glowing orb emerges and he can see the what do you thinks is maybe a dream but he basically was stirred up to go and see this I think very good effects for the time for sure it’s a see you in the astral projection and I will tell you that there was a time when not to get too personal but I had the same exact experience of you appearing to me and the middle of the night as an apparition and within seconds I got a text message I got a message from you on Facebook and it was experience that’s so cool naturally you know that. Your sis. Power start to arrive to help stabilize that energy so it’s pretty much a magical thing is pretty amazing and so I have this part in my book about you know how to really heal yourself from what you thought maybe of you know how house Gary masculine energy might be some time I’m sure there are practices that really going to that and yeah that’s really a good part of my work you because oh man I mean we are in need of some major balance here on this planet and in this life in this world I so I really feel the more that we can Embrace anybody and I’m leaning to the feminine that is rising right now the more we can scan with that the more that we can make space for on the masculine to heal and balance and I want to say like rice but like because it has risen it in excess right but balance in such a way that it kind of comes down to meet the feminine so that this beautiful kind of dance can emerge in more Harmony and that would just make such a huge total impact and he just within the body the container of one individual body being able to fuse and merge those energies is so powerful yeah I’m really glad you what I do awesome guy and I can say from experience from the first couple of experiences and session work that I experienced with you then I really got I was able to feel the force you know that if we’re going to be using that Jedi archetype you know and in there if you want to call Kundalini Shakti goddess energy which is I love calling I love I love hearing of Kundalini as a salmon in force and you were the one who activated that for me and it was just very Seadrill yeah I remember like it was yesterday and so I appreciate it getting you you can get really philosophical and really theoretical but grounding everything into practices to make it as a workbook almost it sounds like this is amazing so you and it’s something that has to be felt in the body to really know what it is yeah it’s hard it’s hard to find words nothing will thank you for all that great work do you feel kind of complete as in that in this kind of brief introduction but but pretty I think it’s a pretty good overview I definitely thrilled to to go deeper with it and others will be as well so I wanted to give the bulk of this episode to this important news of promoting and getting the word out about the book and then but also address questions that I’ve had as a sort of I’ve become a sort of meta Godparent to a lot of different mothers who were rebranding as independent mothers who are in various stages of Court battles with baby daddies for custody and for child support and and I’ve just checking on this sort of I decided I’m not going to reproduce biologically all of my vasectomy but I will reproduce culturally by my being short playing that that more of a Shimano roll in peace and also keeping a little bit of distance from that that this is a an ancient sword of time tree thing of if you are not to be the guru per se but to be an Adept you may have to disengage from householding because there’s just so much mundane kind of learning and things you got to sit through so your country path is always going to be kind of a balancing act between how much of a household are you going to be and what roles are going to have within a community and then how far out you get to go on your own into your mystical practices so I have taken that past of offsetting my my familial obligations a bit so that I could study things from afar and then just go to be this force of will hopefully an Angelic sort of force supporting women who are in different degrees of Crisis that’s just a little bit of a of a context for why it’s important for me now to reconnect with you in a n n learn from you and share your teachings about Tantra parenting the pattern that has been emerging in the question is being asked of me and the view is is how does a woman who has just recently given birth and going through all these different chemical changes and hormonal changes how do you what’s the advice on keeping that spark of love and attraction alive with the baby daddy partner what are some some tricks and tips that you would recommend for for that really critical bonding you know six segments of Life first of all I’m not going to lie. I think the first thing to do is I mean really too kind of except that it’s not going to be the same but. It’s actually you know like I said with you know what having kids how you’re able to look at the things that really matter to you that was so when you actually are with your partner and you have those moments you know they might be less but we are going to be amazing because you are fully present and you’re showing up each moment you know and the end of a lot of for me it’s like when I first became a mom so I had my first son and it was really hard I was just like what cuz I was Dino stole so focused on your child and really wanted to be there to nurture that I and you are you know you’re you’re so deep into it into motherhood and it’s so new everything is so new and exciting and exhausting but I am in a few months I was just like oh my gosh like how how does this work how do we make this work and it was really really difficult very difficult but I found that by you know because I’ve had my kids almost 8 years now until I found that really what we eat sometimes you know if if we need to say like make an appointment with each other and that’s what we have to do if we have to put it on the calendar they okay these are the the two or the three days a week that were scheduling for ourselves for intimacy for connection then that’s we’re going to do that first there was a struggle because my husband’s like okay this isn’t sexy yo after he got over that initial thing it was like okay like we can do this we can make time for this we can we can be intentional about it for us really had to do that because not only was it you know hard navigating with kids now but also the work you know work in the balance of that it was just really tough so that was one of the things that we did the other thing that I want to say is that sometimes you know you you have good intentions but I got at the end of the day you’re exhausted and and then you just end up wanting to just sit there and whatever you want to do watch TV or you know just go to bed until I always like to say that really if you really want to keep that sparked going not to give up just because you feel like okay you know I don’t have that energy right now or I don’t have the time to put into this right now to really see and used Contra in a way that it’s really meant to be experienced right because Todd’s are really isn’t just all about sex right and having that fat set spark Tundra is it much deeper than that and so sometimes you have to tell yourself like okay even though we don’t have time to make love right now maybe maybe it’s just about lying down next to each other synchronizing out of breath making that I contact I’m falling asleep to that I’m letting that be enough you know before you know this night or this week or whatever it is like in the beginning it’s not to really put so much pressure on yourself but to use Simple practice is like you know that you have your own position and just sitting there together and being or maybe you know it’s one night you really need a massage right now you know I really just after having a long day or a long week and be with the kids so much that’s what I really need so communicating that to your partner and really staying in touch with that and not being embarrassed or not feeling like it’s too much or too much of a burden or whatever it is just really being clear about what you deeply need I’m in a lot of that comes down to really checking in you know with yourself all the time and seeing what’s there I really feel like things like that even though you know you might be cuz it’s also self-care right so you’re able to connect with your partner in that way and then you’re also able to have that time must be nurtured and a slowing down which is also key so I think everyone is going to work differently and it’s going to be unique for all of us but it’s really about finding those opportunities to stay consistent to really stay connected in those small tangible ways and mlc really accepting that it’s okay that you know your relationship has changed the amount of time might be able to have to devote to one another Soul has changed I’m not true but you can actually take all that and evolve it into something in a lot of cases that really goes much deeper than that you know because now it’s it’s amazing you know you have this this connection and you know going through motherhood and Emma strikes that that gives you time to actually be able to take that foundation and that strength and that those nurturing abilities and that expression being able to use that with your partner in your relationship I’m having that Foundation really can make me very powerful in a way that’s unexpected just as amazing as you always bring it back to the fundamentals of the practices this is not all hot air to talk about it tell about doing it doing the work and I just feel like it makes me think that I can think of I mean I know some couples will have the foresight to at least make prenuptial agreement but I can’t think of anyone who they actually said we are going to go through the most insane trans transformation of everything we know we can if its first time parents who have no clue what to expect and they and what if they were to get these to be the eye of a storm throughout anyting that’s the Abbey unless Ty gazing the synchronized breathing you can’t touch that space with anything so but but pure Bliss and whatever does need to get work through if it’s done in that space it’s going to be conscious it’s going to be a constructive and it’s going to be a firming so I feel like it’s the what I’m hearing you say and what diarrhea firm is two people listening if you were expecting and you want to keep this container of love together and ever strengthening then start doing his practices now and know that you’re going to really rely on them it’s going to be life-and-death okay we’re just going there so I can breed all right like can’t we just do that let’s just do that next week or let’s just all of that I mean once you start doing it and engaging and you feel that present in your body and the Net Connection you have to just trust that all of that and all of that adds up and all of that makes a difference in your relationship every moment of that that time that you have on to be able to connect in that way as powerful well thank you again for bringing it back to to those core practices again you could have a lot of compliments sure there’s a million complicated bits of advice that people could give for this but this is so practical and and I just I dare people could really do it in and I don’t think you can fail you know I don’t think it’s possible to fail if you have good intentions and you do the scratches so yeah so we were getting also to your kind of making a perfect segue to the next question which is more more about the the asymmetry of responsibility and Duty specially for breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be carried to full-term and whatnot it’s it’s like there’s such a the mail investment just as how I always make this joke there probably less violence in the world is men had to breastfeed but women actually held the babies in their room still so imagine that you wouldn’t be off to go into war and using weapons and guns and swords that she had breastfeeding on demand for whatever after 5 years income that would be great that leaves man with such an unfair and balance of freedom and privilege to not be bound to the those tasks so a lot of women are rightfully lamenting this sensitive of the men who are supposed to be there showing up to with the with the mother is hoping for is that yeah he’s going to go to work and put food on the table and make it so I don’t have to work hopefully or I can work you know in a way that I can still be involved in my children’s lives you know for God’s sake you know who something something not just not just the short maternity leave remind me that the CEO of YouTube is a yogini who is Hardcore advocate for way longer maternity leave or something yeah I didn’t know that I’ll send you a link to a video where it where you get to see that she’s actually really badass them she’s a fierce that ass woman who’s awake I have no idea how did you navigate and how do you recommend for women who maybe don’t have is as blessed of a of a beloved Fixer-Upper type type men how do you get them on board with really going the extra mile of of checking in about about the needs a mother you know mother would have if she is being assertive about her knees in about the new suicide where she would like how can you be humbled to her and just be asking and showing up to being serviced that’s a question that’s a really great question and I have to say that I’m really fortunate with Eric because he I mean he has just him and he is just been a tremendous support from the beginning but then at the same time it’s like I also have to do my part with him right of being very clear about I need you no because then it that this always with him you know in the beginning of special rub up against this when he just wouldn’t know you know and I would be just waiting silently expecting something but he wouldn’t really know that that was what exactly I was looking for right because for women it’s like having that ability to breastfeed and nurture and carry this baby. Room I mean just how we have those abilities so readily at hand and we know what we need sometimes it’s hard to say yeah I need this actually it sometimes it’s hard because where we can be so strong you know and we can put off the 15 so strong and like we have everything together and I know that I do that a lot of time where I’m just like yep I’m good I don’t need help I look what I’m doing all by myself I’m doing all these amazing but that really inside I’m like oh my gosh like what am I I can’t do all this by myself and just allowing your partner that opportunity like okay like this is really what I need and this is the support that I need and this is how I feel going through that and not being afraid to say I am overwhelmed right now you know and and can you please and saying this from a place of love right not from a place that judgment and like what are you doing for me and you know resenting that you know you have more freedom than me and Bubba blah and I’m here breastfeeding or whatever it is not doing it from that place but from you know from your center from a place of love like I’m I’m really overwhelmed I need help with this right now you know can you get up be up with a baby now for two hours because I only had 3 hours of sleep last night instead of just silently you know doing in that moment when you feel I mean I I just I know a lot of of moms and a lot of friends who dust will just be like okay well he didn’t you know my partner my spouse he didn’t step up and so I had to do it and then my will but did you say something and they’re like no or maybe they did say something but you know it wasn’t from that place you know of just clear intentional loving vulnerable until. I think that was one of the biggest things for me especially you know when our relationship I’m like okay and then you know my husband tries to tell me like he’s Eichler like he’s like really I want to be able to show up for you like I want to be strong for you I want you to feel good but he’s like I honestly don’t I just need to to hear it I just sometimes I need to be told or I need to be reminded because it doesn’t come as naturally to me and then show me be mindful of that and not you know not falling to being hurtful or resentful something makes me cute different do you know well that’s really really profound that that really gets to the hardest exactly what I’m seeing go wrong inside once at once that slippery slope really hard I mean it’s kids once this thing start to add up then breaking through that you’re really. It’s really snowballing and that’s your thing everything is this Noble thing I’ve seen it yet so that is great advice I think that work that I said the fly to something if x is kind of ridiculous that it reminds me of I remember seeing young young women and whatever middle school or high school and home home economics class and they will be given an assignment to have a baby doll with them for whatever and in that relationship it’s like okay honey we’re going to do what it’s going to feel like for me to be busy and need help from you and you put in your garden that would be funny if it decided to give people that sensitivity at sensitivity training cuz once it’s already ratchet up and then more expenses than what I’m seeing to notice let me know way more than I do but it’s like I don’t think I think people underestimate the cost of of multiple visits to the pediatrician a week you know it’s like figuring out food allergies and decoding the sugar all of the ways that sugar is is is surreptitiously inserted into packaged food and just it’s such a pill battle to be holistic and to be in at all so it’s just this this is all in on top of just I mean most people are just buying everything off the shelf from entertainment to toys to food to diapers and whatever it is it’s all just off the shelf but to have that effect of wanting to do better than the last Generations or to resist the marketing and be more green or whatever that’s a whole another layer of the building so you know it’s just to get more and more complicated and at the end of the day I see the women just getting ran ragged and the dudes just kind of blowing him off sadly to say but if we could he had say that actually kind of Segways a bit to another question which is and this I mean you could you could write a whole book just on this subject alone out so I don’t expect you to to go too far into it but maybe just some off the top of your head pointers and we can move along quick to know we’re getting close on time so so any suggestions for creative and educational and non-toxic toys just a few maybe went to one website or one store just don’t know anything I don’t know if I’d be the best person to ask about that because I not that they have a choice in general just because you know like all the plastic and everything I mean and we like literally their toys are like one corner of our house like a couple of containers and that’s it and they barely even play them to be honest with you I feel like the simpler the better you know I feel like I’m all about like art you know art projects you know the pain and the crayons and all the art supplies and things like that so that they can enhance their minds and use their hands that way and explore that way they’re into that but I found that you know the purchases that I made with toys throughout the years it’s like that use it and then they’re done and that’s like a big hunk of plastic sitting there are biodegradable and Wooden Spoons and then they’d be busy for 2 or 3 hours you know that they have gotten that I get them they’re like okay and then they open it and then they look at it for 10 minutes and then I end up you know it’s just a way so yes so we do more we like to do more stuff you know in nature I mean they like to play you know what they say they love gospel they love being outdoors they love Ari and they love puzzles and things like that so that’s why I hope that I hope and pray that we will all have abundant opportunities to being healthy natural environments and have plenty of more outdoor time the better cuz there’s some nature is like endless you know just being outside they’re like so fascinated by every little thing the backyard I don’t know it exactly how I like how did the people survived all of those many years ago without these big pieces of plastic and well that is exactly what I thought I hope to hear in and a very firm it if so this is another test of the last one here is probably the the most kind of universal so I don’t know if there is an answer to this question however I died would like to spend I would like to spend my golden years doing a lot more anthropological research on on foraging sigala Terry and societies before you spell hunter-gatherer societies who have basically none of the the neurotic issues that people in the modern world have and and I love to know I would like to believe that there is that there was a golden age of human Innocents where the terrible twos didn’t exist and then that we could decode that and figure out what is it more nurturing Less Talk toxins I mean is it just that there’s so much overstimulation and so many maybe you’re actually able to perceive carcinogens at that age and then you stopped being able to and that’s why I mean it could be anything less or I could just sent them know something very out of balance that’s just modern so I’m just wondering if you have if you were really idealistic about know I’m going to teach there going to be a master Yogi’s by the age of one so that the terrible twos happen though I already beat exam enough I don’t know why you if you were like I don’t know like tell me what that’s been like for you and then if you have advice for people who are in that approaching that Horizon will for me I really I really just try to go with the flow you know just so I’ll talk to style just like accepting every part of it I was just part of the the beautiful messy process of development and growth and exploration and sometimes I do know because otherwise then it’s just become so hard you know what I’m saying because you expect it is you’re going to have meltdowns right it’s not it’s not going to be easy is there at like going to be some very tough days especially in the beginning if it’s going to be hard you feel like what what am I what did I get myself into one of my hairdo evaporate the next moment you know you’re going to feel the most joy and Bliss and happiness that you ever felt like wow that’s amazing that I get to be a part of this process you know that I get to witness this human being growing and developing and it’s it’s just amazing so it’s really you know you know the whole ton truck idea of a flowing through those energy that accepting every moment no matter how chaotic and allowing those emotions and those feelings and those moments to move to you during this challenging time to witness in you know children and young children because it’s like they can like be so happy in one moment and literally within five seconds that can beat me on the floor it’s crazy right it’s like oh my gosh the wide array of emotions from moment to moment and not inhibit that till I I feel like you know it’s like wow for me initially seen that in the beginning and fidget with night was my first one and that you can just move so fluidly like this and just just like that and get so consumed by something else in another moment we just amazing to me so I think we can really take a lot of sign a lot of lessons and just being present at something to a Full Circle closed right now because what I am even before you started to reply that lesson for grown-ups really about about cycling through your full expression and not choking your body is response to a situation out and the full the full body response to a situation I was actually remember me on my phone while I remember a room full of adults it you and Eric’s condo and we were being instructed to behave like children having a tantrum so that we can feel good and actually know the nice that storm there’s like the sun and the blue sky and in the EXO baekhyun the funny faces and doing the monster dance and some just like well you’re probably realizing hits are the times of the exactly yeah it’s it’s pretty amazing to witness is there a word for like reverse parenting or something has got to be a word for the the the from children actually teaching adults what they’re forgetting and I didn’t mean well that’s really it’s a really heartwarming conversation and I feel like the people who are hearing this and who have experienced so much pain and distress that there is such a open source free to use to spend your own time studying it get this book read the book watch Roadies videos I certainly considered to be the highest resource that I like to share with folks because of the same reason they listen before adjusters I don’t feel like there is a knot a snake-oil aspect of what you’re selling and there’s not a sort of a shady ulterior motive saying a gender that I have to worry about and and I just can’t say that about that many people until I’m sure you know and I certainly feel for myself that you know I have I always want to be deferring is often as possible to sort of protect my Integrity to not be the what do they call it like the god cock Shaman is just a narcissistic people’s souls and that’s easy enough to it’s easier to take that route of that that black timeshare manipulate manipulate almost hard not to do it so I mean I’m making and I feel like we are making major effort cuz that’s the complete opposite of what you are and what you and body I mean from the very beginning so yeah no thank you I really feel like you are just I mean somebody who’s just really in there doing that you’re like doing the work you know and you like do it like with an open heart you’re just like in there and you’re talking to everybody and just creating this just really amazing platform. You should be really proud of well thank you again and again I have to say you helped start at all and one of my the first real social proof that I had was that was your gracious licensing of me to share some of the video work that we did together it’s been a blessing that go into detail but all that in that in that previous episode supposed to listen of that and I will say that we we were blessed and burden in this in this time of this episode to take to cover a good intro to the book and also to open this discussion about time to Parenting I definitely want to set the intention that in the future we will give more of a of a deep dive into your personal background and it sort of will let that be a cliffhanger to hear about your experiences early introduction of Tantra and just kind of the got your path of building that confidence and certainly the form give experience Syfy oh my God it all yeah we haven’t got into your filmography either still be there next time to say this for next time to talk about birth because yes I mean not as deep and my experience naturally delivering and doing it with Tantra as my Foundation is the only way that I said I survived it and actually enjoyed it. Arrington have the complete box set free thank you so much thank you so much for having me it was really great and most richest time in in a moment to to share this Basin and certainly yeah it’s it’s a got it just give you a big big bow down because this you were the one who helped me start this this whole journey I don’t know I don’t know who I’d be or where I’d be doing it if we didn’t have a Meeting of Minds you know so yeah I can’t believe I forgot to say this I mean you were seriously you were the first one who discovered my website you were the first one who reached out to me and one of the first that I’ve actually I will say the first that I taught that I didn’t know because I had started already like teaching but like you know friends and friends of friends but you were the first clean one like the first student I was like oh wow yeah that that walked in and like was the beginning of really that Journey so thank you I did not know that I did not realize that that that’s funny so funny I can’t believe I never told you that that’s very well so everybody just like get over your awkwardness and just represent just like bring your egg and no matter what things will come out you know it’ll all fall in place to get back to the Sam and yeah I give them my love and thank them for allowing you to to do the book and for all of the people who parted the sea so that you could get that book done and then provide provide that to us and so much more thank you I know it I just want to say thank you so much for Amy what you just what you spoke about earlier just blew me away how you been stepping up to support women and you know what your mother’s I mean you are really holding for me to space there and this is really something that you know I know that would indeed and you know a lot of them have been longing for so thank you so much for for being that person and for filling that role cuz it’s just amazing the work that you’ve been doing all these years I thank you you planning to see each other that they were they say that it’s the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree at least in the sense of the guru to train me to be a womanizing pick up artist in the name of conscience so I guess that’s why we you know gravitated toward each other There Was You know. The little like energy so I think I don’t think you would have found that path that was not your will thank you so much again yeah so much so much good vibes and good times and we will be in touch soon and and best of luck with all of your your your book emotional adventurous okay great thank you so much fun. Country Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple provide ketologic employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Township Park. Com Thomas gay
In this episode I’m very pleased and honored to be joined by the highly accomplished Lee Harrington, he is one of those very precious “where have you been all my life” kind of sapiosexual soul mates that you feel like you could talk with forever and ever.
I knew this was going to be a deep, profound, enlightening, and transformative journey. His perspectives on sexual healing, liberation, and empowerment are vast, multi-dimensional, and infinitely thought provoking. I’m looking forward to many ongoing explorations, it felt like we barely massaged the surface.
He shares his personal background of transitioning from being born assigned female to becoming a man, developing personal practices and group opportunities to experience sacred kink, working as an adult performer, becoming an international sacred sexuality educator and advocate, and so much more.
Our dialog felt like a free-style jam where we riffed off each other’s musings, laments, and future-positive affirmations and visioneerings. It felt like a bit of collaborative improvisational spell craft; all intended to expand love, acceptance, compassion, and co-operation.
We dance with language and he provides insight into ways to evolve the terminologies we use to define “us and them” and when appropriate, transcend to more of a continuum than a dichotomy. I’m hopeful with the application of Lee’s wisdom teachings, we’ll move towards an unprecedented global village where a new “us with them” paradigm will replace the “us and them” and “us vs them” binaries.
Lee Harrington is an internationally known spiritual and erotic authenticity educator, gender explorer, eclectic artist, and award-winning author and editor on sexual and sacred experience. He is a nice guy with a disarmingly down to earth approach to the fact that we are each beautifully complex ecosystems, and we deserve to examine the human experience from that lens. He has been an academic and female adult film performer, a world class sexual adventurer, an outspoken philosopher, is a kink/bondage expert, and has been blogging about sex and spirituality since 1998. His books include “Sacred Kink: The Eightfold Paths of BDSM and Beyond,” “Traversing Gender: Understanding Transgender Realities,”“Playing Well With Others: Your Guide to Discovering, Exploring and Negotiating the Kink, Leather and BDSM Communities”(with Mollena Williams), “Shibari You Can Use: Japanese Rope Bondage and Erotic Macramé,” and others. You can find Lee’s podcast, tour schedule, free essays, videos, and more over at www.PassionAndSoul.com
In this episode I’m joined by Larry Fredrick a highly experienced and accomplished evolved masculine coach. He shares the intimate details of his journey of personal growth through the catharsis of the early punk rock movement, transcending a failing marriage, getting into self-help, pick-up artistry, and ultimately a diverse array of spiritual and sexual mastery programs.
He has a down-to-earth perspective on learning and teaching practical self-improvement skill sets for men. With over 10 years of advanced training and practice he’s developed the “Rock Your Cock” program for men to really step into their power from a place of heart-centered, mindful, and spiritual consciousness.
I was most intrigued by his stories of experiencing authentic traditional tantric initiation in the jungles of India and his explanation of how he’s been able to adapt the teachings and apply them in his own love and sex life, as well as transmit the teachings to his students.
It was a deep honor and pleasure to have this opportunity to speak with a fellow rocker who’s living the dream as a tantric punk, has worked directly with many of my heroes, and who embodies forms of tantric magic that you can’t learn from books alone.
Larry Fredrick is an award winning international educator. He’s also a sex coach;
licensed and certified in Erotic Blueprints, Sexological bodywork, Neurolinguistic
Programming, Hypnotherapy, and Somatic Sex Education.
Larry works with men who want to clearly find and express their desires so they can
feel empowered in finding passion, pleasure, and juicy hot sex. He has traveled the
globe, from the mountains of Peru to Tantric temples in the jungles of India, training
with some of the top names in the fields of self transformation and sexual education
including Jaiya Ma, David Deida, Michaela Boehm, Destin Gerek, Satyen Raja and Joseph
From having issues with erectile dysfunction, performance and social skills, to
becoming a multi-orgasmic man with the skills and techniques of a confident lover,
Larry helps men step into their full erotic power so they can have more confidence in
the bedroom and in their relationships.
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin double dribble Evans welcome to Township Funk podcast episode number 2 0 7 buy a very Frederick who is a masculine empowerment coach and he has a lot of interesting and exciting offerings that we’re going to talk about we go back to having met through Destin Garrix Network and the weekends or weekend men’s Retreats that I’ve been apart of and he is taking that further and done the training and is now yeah Mexican apartment coaches work with Dustin Garrick he’s worked with Jaya and provides for blueprint training Psalm Isadora and others and that we have some interesting choices of Common Ground coming from a punk. Background and we’ll have lots to talk about regarding the relationship interplay between the punk at 6 and attitude and the Tantrum and so with that said Larry do you want to just give us kind of an overview of your personal Journey leading up to all of these exciting offerings at you right now well I mean my bias is long so I’m just going to cut to the meat I am on a masculine empowerment coach I have a program called Rock your cock which is on my website it’s exactly what the title says it’s to help me and be in there talking show up to women and masculine way and also be in their heart and be in their mind being there in their spirit so it’s connecting the lower chakras the higher chakras and it works through blocks and sexual techniques and on communication relationships so that’s the program that I’m offering the listeners they sign up on my website but I’ve also travel all over the world work with a whole bunch of teachers it’s been a long journey from a failed marriage sexless marriage to know I having an amazing hot juicy sex with an amazing woman I mean our house right now doing this podcast on so I think we should just get right to the question you might have been possible thank you that overview and I would say you have for me a lot of a lot of this work started with a path to Liberation through the punk rock movements I’d love to have to have you start there seems like an earlier chapter of your life when when you were mainly involved in that scene in that community and so I left it here just what that was like what that was like for you and how that’s kind of was a in a precursor to or foreshadowing a more spiritual path yes I would say that the punk movement was when I was part of the punk scene it was and I was not on the spiritual path I was graduated high school in 1982 and that was kind of the heart of the punk movement so when I would go out with my friends they would be to some of the Seas really small tiny little clubs and what I liked about the punk movement is that it was about redefining everything including what music you know like you didn’t even have to play an instrument to play an instrument and you also didn’t need what was an instrument instrument could be a power drill and instrument could be you know something that that you bang on and make noise you didn’t have to sing you didn’t have to look a certain way you could just go out there and express emotions so it was like in a really cathartic and sort of Rage driven and you know for a young man it was a way to kind of experience now on a more spiritual level two experience on a visceral level of emotions in a group of people yeah I hear you on that and that’s something I would like to ask you is as if you had since your contract negotiations and in Journeys in Adventures you I’m sure you have both experienced than just been coming across people who are core very much about inviting the shot the energy and Awakening Kundalini energy and a lot of sometimes erratic kind of krias and sometimes more graceful dance forms but I always like to make the comparison that the Kundalini energy is really well leather it up in the punk rock circle pit and sometimes even the mosh pit but there’s also like a activation going on that’s doing some stuff on purging and purification you have any thoughts on I’m not sure though I mean I know what I have learned over the years is a fellow I’ve done a lot of working in different states cramps and there’s definitely a trance that happens when you’re in a group of people listening to music whatever that music is an. The emotions that come out become magnified when they’re when it’s not just you feeling that emotion but a whole group of people feel emotions that are brought out in a punk rock club or different than in a tantric Puja but they’re still emotions and they’re still magnified by being in the group that is a great way to say and Selso and very inclusive way to say you had mention also that you do hypnosis so this might be a good time maybe a little out of the timeline to mention it here but we were talking about France dates and Altered States do you want to talk a bit about what he described for people who may be haven’t had an xtatic group emotional cathartic experience like what is that what how would you describe that in terms of your knowledge of how the brain works and how the nervous system works and and how Altered States were when you’re in a group of people doing the weather is a tantric Puja or a rock concert or even going to Vegas there’s a lot of things that are basically you go into a State of Trance when your mind is overloaded so if you’re overloaded by the sounds of slot machines going off at noises and sounds and smells your ear mind starts to get overloaded and then it becomes suggestible so we’re overloaded it when I live in Los Angeles I mean I’m overloaded as soon as I walk out of my house there’s there’s things that are overloading my mind which means that my mind is very susceptible to Suggestions by advertisers people that may not have my best interest so when you go into a trance State you were open and you could be open to positive suggestions or negative suggestions as a hypnotist I’m I’m trying to say I’m trying to see if you’re in that trance state with a hypnotist URI your ear assuming and I know that will not working with you I’m sitting in container with your safety mind and your best interest in mind so what I’m going to put his suggestions that are positive as opposed to suggestions that if you eat this hamburger from Carl’s jr. you’re going to get laid or whatever other suggestions people are putting in our head through our everyday hypnosis with that I don’t know if that makes sense yeah totally not exactly what I was supposed I’m getting out of here so I’m curious so from going from that earlier Punk type of initiation what what were some of the Catalyst I know you mentioned it a sexless marriage and so what was that process like of transforming your life pass into Seaking Tantra discovering it and then you can give us the sort of them chronology of the different works that you’ve been involved in 4 years old so I’ve had a lot of Life of different stories and episodes but I think one of us when I was in the midst of my marriage I was also sort of dissatisfied with my job and I went to I went to a therapist who was going to put me on medication and I said you know I’ll fuck that I don’t want to that’s not the route I want to go I want to take them medicine so I decided to look into hypnotherapy as a way of you know kind of working on myself like I figured that I could use positive thinking that use hypnotherapy to give direction to why was starting to feel kind of lost in a marriage and a job and it worked I mean a super powerful and I found that I was attracting when I was when I was starting out I was attracting a lot of men who either word at social anxiety or or problems relating to women a lot of guys that were in a computer Gamers and then they would just like really in their head and I found that they were drawn to me because I also I totally understand was a computer gamer I was addicted to World of Warcraft I was psychic Total Computer gamer I’m that was my way of escaping which is also a state of hypnosis so first I use it as a way of working on myself and then I just found that I naturally Drew clients for men who were going through the same thing I was in which is basically get out of your head and into your body and you know take all the negative stories all this all the self steam issues all the confidence issues in and a really men are powerful and in most of them we work hard and sometimes we forget that there’s so many negative stories like to impart positive confidence power and is just to show up those were some of the things that I was doing as a hypnotist and also letting them most of them were able to get over their shyness or their social anxiety and really feel much better about themselves and show up show up for women better now that you know that was just the beginning that was where I started I’ve got a lot farther since since I started out that is very interesting I’m very concerned about the new generation as well younger generation coming up through the video games in that level disconnection if you don’t mind before we move forward into more of the time and spirituality and sexuality episodes in chapters you know what would you say if you were if a person listening now is really hooked on gaming and not and not really taking care of their body and not taking care of their their relationships and I’m kind of getting sucked into that realm do you have any advice just off the top of your head that you would share or recommend that they contact you or I’d love to know about more resources for people in that situation too big essential secret for all of it and it’s not just kids on video games cuz I’m working out with about messing with about twenty-five men and it’s all they’re all it’s all the same as we’re in our heads we’re not in our body it takes like it it’s it’s like a gradual moving into our bodies and in feeling our bodies are so much numbness like I find the men that I’m working with right now I’m working with them and then they are like I’ll take a breath and they say what do you feel and if they will I feel relaxed bulshit you don’t feel relaxed you feel your body you feel the tension from being hunched over a computer over a car it’s like they’re not feeling their bodies so they’re not feeling their own their own bodies are not filled their emotions if shut it all down and they’re not showing up for the women in their lives thank you for doing that work and I would say myself I was I was very much a gamer growing up as a child but I guess luckily for me to games weren’t that controlling so I spent plenty of time by the time I matured sexually life my actual life became the video game that all of the BB King the real game that the video games were kind of like training for so I hope that that art of development can be kind of you know did you ever get that sense that there’s an appropriate role for four games of all kinds and then once life really starts going you should be out there and living it right but I mean I think everything is I’m not against games go and you know video games are awesome but I’m against retreating into your head into like a fantasy world so you’re not dealing with your own body your own emotions you’re not dealing with reality you’re not dealing with opportunities in front of you so you know there’s nothing wrong with video games is nothing wrong with whatever drugs or alcohol or whatever it is people use to get out of their bodies and into their you know whatever Escape people need but if you live there and you’re not you’re not connecting to the real world was obviously that’s not what I’m I want I want men to choose I want men to be a body grounded Power full sewing up in the real world and feeling their bodies feeling they’re motioning and feeling their sexuality because they’re missing out that you know that there’s a lot of men having sex or fucking but they’re not feeling like the full range of what’s possible in orgasm which even even what men consider orgasm I mean it took me a long time to reach to the point where I’m really like blown the lid off of what an orgasm is I I can I could lie in bed next to my partner and we haven’t even had sex and I’ll just be like convulsing in like shaking and in like complete pleasure that would could be nonstop until I finally so you know what I want to go to sleep so I didn’t even know what was possible an orgasm all right well yeah I get there I get your point I think so I think there could be a sweet spot of having your cake and eating it too guarding the video games and if you really develop yourself in in the physical and spiritual and sexual aspects then by all means enjoy the video games that I would take that to be some good advice and so now we’re getting into that more advanced sexual Spiritual Development so what happened next in your journey as far as your discovery of Tantra did you find out fire and go to a workshop or did some mystical Guru approach you and traveling trip or what was that that was very very much a guy into TV and video games and and I got involved in like the pickup seen you know there’s did the pickup artist scene and at which why don’t want to get into that but I was listening to a podcast and I found out about this workshop and it was a tantra Workshop didn’t you didn’t the guy named such Young Living Canada who is still I still involved with his great awesome teacher and it was a it was a 3-day workshop and involving Connection in communication between men and women and it was sort of a Puja but again none of these words and if you did I wouldn’t have known what it was what it meant I was totally not into anything that I considered spiritual chakras or any of that stuff I would not have gone which is it was called I think was called sex passion in Enlightenment something like that was a 3-day workshop and I went to that and it just blew my mind I mean making eye contact with different women and I’m all of the things that came up all of the emotions that came up all of the you know that the self-reflection that came up and reminder that there’s a story I told him another podcast but I might as well tell the story I was I was paired up with a woman and she looked me in the eyes it was like eye contact and all she said to me is I trust you this was just the lines that a woman was supposed to say to a man I trust you and I received that you know the woman sang to me I trust you and I I was on the ground like crying for I don’t I don’t even know how long are in a ball crying because I realized I was not a trustworthy Matt which is why my marriage is all fucked up I was not a man that a woman can trust and I sort of made it like I sort of question what what is it like to be a trustworthy man what is what is a trustworthy man that’s what a woman wants no more than a big cock they want a man’s dick trust I mean so it in terms of becoming a sexual Manner and I realized I had a lot of inner work to do and then I realized that what I was learning was Contra and then and then that set me on a whole other path which is actually why I was attracted to Dyess blueprints because she talks about different blueprints one of being energetic and I realize that I was an energetic and I didn’t even know what that was I didn’t even know that was a thing but now that I’ve coached for the blueprints it’s like I wasn’t energetic in my shadow which hole explain later but I was at I was an energetic was kind of didn’t know I was and therefore I lived in the shadow of the energetic well I just was a beautiful story and I think yeah but I’m glad that that offering existed and you were able to connect with it I do I didn’t get involved myself in the pickup scene and I I guess I kind of I feel like I avoided it as as a Pastime personally but I have met some people recently you know who was part of their the early attorney as well and so if you don’t mind talking about it I love to hear a little bit more but if you’d rather not that’s fine too but I’ll just put that out there for people who don’t some of the principles of it I think there is maybe it has a bad reputation as being manipulative and really selfish and kind of way to use kind of trickery and and tactics of Deceit and so that’s that’s like the negative impression I have it although I’ve been enlightened that there’s more to it and it’s actually a past 2 in development and evolution that’s that has a very respectable depends on who you train with or who your buddies are but do you want to talk about that is there anything Redemptive that people should know about that but I think there’s an idea is that we can change as men that we can learn skills we can learn skills like presents we can learn how to communicate better that these are skills that we need to learn that we’re not just some men are what are called Naturals but a lot of men are not and that there’s ways to teach it to the ways to learn it there’s ways to improve so the idea of men like I mean there’s a lot of ego and in terms of no I’m good I’m good I’m okay you know I’m I’m doing alright like the idea of the pickup is that actually wherever you’re at you could be better and pick up does use a lot of NLP which is neuro-linguistic programming that’s kind of a another reason I got interested in it and a hypnosis in a lot of the things that you know now that I that I teach it there was a lot of things that I learned from being in that scene especially the ideas at these are skills that could be learned in that they can be taught so we don’t have to be satisfied with where we’re at as men and that there are ways to break down and improve their very well said I appreciate that if somebody was had missed out on getting into the pickup seen earlier do you recommend that people go and read certain books or watch certain videos or find certain meetups is it still something that you would include in your programs for men now or was it something that you kind of see is like all well it was a means to an end or stepping stone I’m curious if you would still endorse that movement somehow we’ll see I don’t know what the movement is up to now I think there’s a lot of no sketchy kind of characters in there and a lot of like exploiting a lot of marketing and a lot of I think taking advantage of men who want to improve I mean I would recommend myself because hitch hook I’m taking what I learned from pick up from hypnosis and other things and spirituality and I’m not teaching not teaching men to go out to bars and pick up women but I’m teaching men to be the kind of man that wants to go to the bars they’ll be more attractive to women don’t I don’t teach lines or anything like that cuz I found they don’t work but works is doing the work on yourself so you show up as a more powerful attractive man and I think that what the pickup is exploiting is is they need which again I finding working with men is like we want the Magic Bullet and we want it fast and we want it like Surefire and we want it without doing the work like we want we want that they promised a lot and you know like the magic pick up line is going to make them horny and a lot of it’s bullshit really but if you get involved if it doesn’t wake you up and turns it over these are things that I can improve I I can improve my posture I can improve how I make eye contact with person and I can improve my listening skills I can improve how I show up and then these things help build confidence and then when confidence is building then you naturally become more attractive person and more attractive to women those again great points I’m glad that that were talking about that something I I guess kind of worried and hasn’t again been that personal to me but I feel you on that so so now where would you say you want to start bringing in the official trainings that you did the Special Operations that you’ve done with some of the sum of the key players in the modern Neo Tantra and movement sounds like you’ve been you know getting out there and so when did your formal or more formal training ministration start in Gaston go from there after I did that work with Sachi on the path of the Warrior Stage so I did a lot of work with him which included shamanic journeys to Mexico meeting doing doing meeting shamans and I can’t even like going to some of the the magical crazy stuff that happened in he he was he was into David data so I got involved with David data in one of his teachers Michaela boehm might I work with her and so these are different different forms of Tantra and none of them call themselves Tantra but then I got involved in like I met Psalm Isadora and she’s much more of a the more traditional like old school country from India or the cheap there’s a whole Neo Tantra movement which comes from Osho and a lot of the teachers teach this this form of Tantra that is basically from Osho when he came to America and I do know it’s like I can’t talk forever about talks so much about it but some really I really clicked with her because she she she brought in this like traditional chanting in Sanskrit and it was just beautiful rituals and I like the ritual of it I like the I like the kind of formality of the ritual so she told me about a temple that you did too in India and if it came to my mind and then she passed away so I never got a chance to go to this Temple but then I did with another teacher Don Cartwright took me to this Temple because it’s hidden you don’t know where it is and it’s like an old-school ancient country Temple Heating in the jungle and if you can give you make it there by got initiated basically it was like 2 weeks class of of learning how to chant incense sounds great and there’s is 108 goddess statues and you have to do a ritual to each one it’s it’s kind of like you’re just immersed in this ancient language there there’s flowers everywhere and smells and and it’s just kind of mind-blowing I was basically magic school it’s like I learn magic and but that sounds weird is it there there’s a hundred and a goddess statues in in like they’re all sexual and there’s that there’s a Temple there that’s like the Yoni Temple so it’s basically goddess worship and I have to learn these these these rituals and you just immersed in it and it is going into a trance basically your this thing is in the jar there’s no toilet paper there if you eat with your hands and it’s like a whole other world it’s like going back thousand years and and then at the end do you know I basically was initiated into the srivijaya lineage but what’s interesting about it is I did a ceremony with kaniche where I was basically the one of my wishes was to bring this woman I was seeing on this journey with me and I’m in our house right now it’s been 3 years and we were just kind of seeing each other but I wanted her to be part of this journey and then for Valentine’s Day after coming back from the temple I did this Pooja that I learned there in the temple that it’s like a secret ancient ceremony and I learned it And I memorized it and I practiced it and I prefer I did it to her on Valentine’s Day and she said that blew her mind like like like to have it wasn’t that it wasn’t the ritual of it but to have so much attention paid on her like all the details that you know you have to have and tastes all five senses I touch different parts of her body different pressure points and pleasure points and did chanting and took like 2 hours but it said she said that blew her mind you know like to have that kind of ritual performed on her and I could never do it again it’s like I could not remember all of that all of that stuff I learned I have to go back in my arms again but it was almost it did feel like I had received some kind of transmission and I like I was I’m talking about it I don’t really talk about this I’ve never actually really talked about this because there’s some feeling of I don’t know if people are going to believe me or am I showing off or what it what exactly am I saying and yet I’m also feeling like a vibration in my chest that I went through this experience was pretty incredible I mean hidden country temple in the jungles of India and initiating in the bringing that to my girlfriend yeah it is putting me in a trance as I talk about it well me too I’m having an adventure in my mind too and I love that you shared that and I feel blessed that you feel comfortable sharing those details with me and I’m sure there’s you know you can write a whole book just about that that cycle that you did there but you know I’m I’m flashing through all of the experiences I’ve had doing fujas and rituals and ceremonies and just everything that I’ve experienced in in the westernized Neo Tantra version where think there’s always a number of people who’ve had those more authentic traditional classical country experiences in India or in other parts of other parts of the world and bring that back and are able to bring that transmission and that energy carries forward for people who work for just you know in some meat up in somebody’s living room on in West play or something and actually it is it transmits but I love hearing the stories of the actual experience is cuz we really I don’t think we have many places in the US where where goddess worship and the ritualised procedural practice of worshiping and asking for blessings and protection from the deities I don’t see that happening a lot I send in the meet-up send in the township groups what not I think there is more of a focus on more secular personal development and just you know how to be a better relationships and this kind of undifferentiated one missense of bliss but I’m actually way more interested in this otherworldly transdimensional intelligent entities deities and beautiful Divine spirits that have personalities and very distinct archetypal Personalities in that that’s what you’re talking about and so I’m thrilled to always hear more about what those practices of the ones that seem to not get through the mesh into the West as often as like the multi-orgasmic even the Kundalini stuff which I’ve heard you know a lot of Kundalini people approach Kundalini without without paying homage to its is a feminine Shakti goddess aspect of it so much so yeah I’m glad you had that experience and then that you bring that forward and certainly that we just go from talking about the gimmicks of pick up Artistry which you know it’s like I think of pickup artists I think of con artists I think of like confidence scams and then evil going from from that Vibe of that world to this experience you talking about and translating the beauty and magic of these experiences in Matt’s and then having the proof in the pudding and applying it to turning on and really worship thing and giving to this beloved you yours like I hope that those people who are trying to buy the magic pills and by the secret pick up lines and all that they actually would hear this and and and be inspired by what you’re saying you say there’s like a way way deeper Richard passed to towards some pleasing women and in being a God you know being like the guy who gets her off the best and the guys will never forget that that can come from it a deeper more of my spiritual face so thank you very much that was my you know my my Applause and praise for it for you sharing that and so do you want to then go from there to how you started to apply that if you start to want to teach Tantra more formally and start building your own kind of phone programs did you do some other trainings if you go to work with diarrhea right after that or what was next time you’re you’re sort of Business Development path of Tantra make something clear like this I’m listening to this I’m not expecting men to go into the jungles in like wipe their ass with their hands because there’s no toilet paper you know what and then come back and do a 3-hour ritual to the woman in order to get laid that’s not what I’m saying that I did that but what I teach man is to put their attention and make make like or you can make an ordinary day exciting and ritualistic so like I’m going we’re going to San Diego this weekend and we’re sitting we’re going to turn it into a ritual at an adventure and I’m going to I’m going to pay attention to my woman as opposed to like the pickup artist seen I think there was a lot of like Don’t Buy Women drains their they’re not going to respect you if you if women don’t respect men who are nice guys and all that in you could be nice to a woman you could pay attention to a woman you could be attentive to her needs you could have your balls intact it’s not like if you’re if you’re nice to a woman or you please a woman or you pay attention to her that you’re giving up your balls that’s like the thing that I didn’t like about pick up cuz I love sharing my woman with some attention so you don’t like what I did was was a super elaborate version of that and yet there’s ways to pay attention in minor ways every single you all the time and so I try to make ordinary time with her you know beautiful and sacred and in treat her like a goddess even if I’m wash will just washing dishes you know like make that a ritual washing dishes so the dishes are done so we can go to the bedroom and we can fuck you know it’s like let’s let’s make washing dishes a ritual let’s make washing dishes set let’s make washing dishes away press to get that out of the way so we have space in our lives and two to pay attention to each other and dropped into a space of Sacred Love and that does not require you going to the jungles I just requires the shift in in your perspective I love it seems like there’s always going to need to be some ratio of people who have had the deeper immersive experiences in the classical traditional timeshare temples and then bring that back and you know it’s like everybody’s not going to be a shaman but we need to have a sweet spot kind of ratio so thank you for having that experience I’m certainly some point wanting wanting to to be one of those folks who can have a deeper experiences and then transmit them and translate them into a more modern contact so so yeah thanks for that clarification and and that makes a lot of sense so so yeah what would what was your next step word some building the confidence not only to please your own lovers but to teach bring this magic and medicine and and then skill sets to Two Men and develop more of a practice of your own let me guess it was very important to me because I went through his program it’s a whole new program that was videos as you know cuz you’re in the videos but so there’s a lot more aid for teaching men and I’m running man through this program I now that I found this in again when I was part of the pickup seen and he was at some some he was speaking at one of them I don’t remember how I ran into him but then I kept running into him like every single week I would go to event and they were all different events that when was The Burning Man event and when was it Astro van with a pick up a bed and was like who is this guy Destin I should call him and talk to him and I went through his program and I became multi-orgasmic so it was like wow I read that might actually work and all of that and it didn’t work but Justin’s program work and now I’m not like a coach like now I am authorized to teach his two other men because he really breaks it down he went through 6 logical Body Works which I actually also went through that trade-in so I see where it comes from I see the roots for it I see why it works and how it works and the bottom line is it works it’s like you can take a man run him through this step by step program in at the end he he’s pretty much has control over his orgasm and it worked for me and it’s working for the men that are going to the program I know it works I mean he’s done it with hundreds and hundreds of men so that was one official training I got and then and another training I got is was why is blueprints with shock yeah I mean that I learned about Jaya Jaya to Destin one of his podcast actually I had seen joy around I seen her she used to promote our books at different events different sexual advance and I would see Jai I kept seeing her also but then I was listening to an interview that just ended with her where she was talking about what she called The Erotic Blueprints and I was in another relationship where I was bringing all my Tantra training in my you know I gazing into this relationship and I thought it was great you know I was having orgasm but the woman wasn’t and I thought well am I what’s wrong and then just kind of said there’s Blueprints and I’m unenergetic like that’s why I love this time. I happen to be an energetic and I can I can really tap into that and I can have these incredible experiences but not everybody is an energetic and then she said then there’s a sensual there’s a sexual there’s a kinky and there’s a shapeshifter and I realized while the woman that I was with was very sexual and I’m sexual also but it was not my primary blueprint so I was speaking to her as an energetic like expecting her to have the same kind of contract experiences but she wasn’t a wire that way and and then sometimes she would just like to just want to like you just want to fuck and I was like what I want to connect first one I gave you like really just want to go there right away so now I’m learning to speak the other person’s language and understand my own language and the woman I’m with now super super sensual that’s why she loved that couch I get because it was all about taste and smell and sound with all the senses so that really turned wrong because of who you was designed to be a sensual experience we’re all over essential were lit up and I know how to I know how to speak the language of a sensual and one of them is example making sure for a sensual if things are out of place if dishes are done at the house is dirty she can’t drop into her body she can’t really experience orgasm so for me clean up the houses is for play because that’s what my that’s what my partner wants she wants all that stuff out of her head because the sensual will get into their head start worrying about stuff and then you know of a few years down the line the partnership is not working out they’re not understanding why they’re not there there they both think they’re having sex but when is having one is not getting their energetic fed and the others not getting their Central fat or their sexual fat so learning the blueprints was like to learn that I was in energetic like blew me away because then I realized it is a thing in that it’s not weird to have these orgasmic experience is just looking into someone’s eyes but it’s also know it may not be the way another person the person I’m with name me not experience it the same way and I can’t force them to have that experience I appreciate that work that was done. Can you say kind of from your training and where you work with her and Emma studies of for blueprint I’m not aware of the podcast before I don’t have it on the top of my head, the backstory of how how she would describe the the process of discovering these beasts different patterns do could you say something to what what to your your recollection is like her kind of backstory around that if if you would let me hear backstory things I mean her backstory she was also sexological bodyworker which is we all have in common me giant Destin we’ve all been trained by the same teacher Joseph Kramer and sexological Body Works and child learn after hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours working with couples that there was different couples were turned on by different touch like the man might be turned on by certain kind of touch and the woman might be turned on by a different kind of touch and they weren’t the same so the man expected the woman to respond the way he was responding and then just started to break it down and realized that a sensual is turned on by a completely different sort of touch than the sexual is and they’re actually if you want to know what your blueprint is if you go on my website you can take your who is there is emails that you’ll get I will explain all the blueprints so my website is in-body awakening.com which is e m p o d y m body which is hard to spell under the dash awakening.com hopefully you’ll have this written somewhere so it’s a for sure that’ll be on the Awakening., there’s a quiz on the bottom you can take the quiz for free and then you’ll get emails that looks plain all of them it’ll tell you what your blueprint is and then you’ll get emails at hotel look at 5 different emails that will explain the is the superpower of each blueprint and the shadow side of each have a shadow site to find that out and then again yeah go on the website take the quiz and then you can book a session with me and I can talk about how how you can implement this in your sex life because the blueprints is just one part of my program cool alright well thank you for sharing that and also I think it’s a great point to make that people who have been in this field in this movement and its industry and have done that level of work a game that sense of Mastery and then these emergent properties of being able to distill these kind of macro counter and that’s where that that wisdom and in comes from is that that richness of experience so I appreciate your hearing about that and I know there’s a number of other systems that people have developed to categorize various kind of powder and sand and styles of relating and there’s love languages that you know all kinds of different different metrics and tools that have been developed to kind of self analyze and solve correct and in in an ad so glad that there is more of the sexual and Amore essential systems that are being developed and so yes and then after that now where does that where does that bring us to within in your historical chronological timeline are we getting close to where you’re at now or where was there more happening before we get to the present but no car now what your you can go into the details of the the rock your cock program it sounds like it’s probably drawing on all the influences but that I don’t want to skip over anything before we get there so yeah what where where else what else do we need to cover it to get to the present read marriage I started to want something else got involved in the pickup scene from their got involved in Contra through Sachi on and then became a hypnotist it so it is it’s not like this happen overnight is was 10 years and then you know traveling with Sachi on and seeing these shamanic having the shamanic experience has started to open me up to this other world of that as an energetic at first I would have been like so skeptical because that’s that’s what the shadow of the energetic is it’s like because I was an energetic I was denying that there could possibly be everything have to have a scientific explanation and everything we was bullshit and Kippy and you know I’m coming from the punk background you know those hippies like I had but that was my shadow side because I was actually completely once once I got opened up and started to experience things myself it was like boom I’m in energetic I can feel energy I could I actually have these experiences that I can’t really describe in that not everyone has to believe know if they don’t believe it that’s fine I’m not going to try to convince anyone all I know is I’ve had some incredible experiences so so it was from pick up Tantra hypnosis and then then starting to find the teacher including traveling to Canada traveling to India going to Peru having different a Mexico having different experiences and I think my primary influences then became Destin enjoy shampoo mentored me and taught me their system the system of sexual self-mastery for men so men can become multi-orgasmic and the the blueprints which is like the love languages for the bedroom and what’s nice about it is I can teach this it’s like this is exactly what the pick up pick up Community says I could break it down I could teach it plus I had hypnosis to it so like a high anchor in so you remember the stuff and in fact I’m filming a whole I’m feeling a whole Erotic Hypnosis thing in the middle of filming at we have it work where I put my partner and she’s never even done it before on film where she becomes she has these just from listening going into hypnosis you basically has hypnotics orgasms and I put her on the bed in a hypnotic BDSM session I teach you guys how to do this so this is my own stuff that I’m adding offering a lot it’s like 10 years of all of these different trainings come together into my one Rodger cock I survived that sounds great siding and I can’t I’m jealous that you that you got such a great name for it I got it how did I how did that slip by me all this time you noticed it’s funny it’s funny cuz originally and have more of like a mask you act like I was masculine and Power Man in and he’s kind of names and I just said no fuck it rocks your cock cuz that’s what men want you know even though I’m teaching them spirituality and all this other stuff that’s not going to get them excited rock your cock it’s like yeah because that’s the end result I’m offering the end result rock your cock and that means more than just about getting your cock it’s not about getting your cock hard it’s about showing up as a man in his masculine energy and it is feminine so it’s like I’m being done being sneaky cuz I’m also teaching men to be in their feminine to to be in their heart but not going to get him in the door you know what gets him in the door is it’s about your cock about being a man and it’s about showing up in that way but in order to do that you need to embrace your family and you need to be able to have have experiences trance-like experiences which again you can do through breathing which I teach to help self hypnosis so but yeah the name your cock cuz that’s the end result income for the Shiva and you stay for the shock to you no thank God it’s it’s it’s Punk is Rock You Know rocks you rock it you know it’s it’s about showing up in in in in playing her instrument and just playing it however the fuck you want to you know you don’t have to go and take formal lessons in in school you just you just rock it because it’s natural I love that you. That’s it what’s the point right to get to where things flow naturally and you’re not fighting anything and you’re not having to count all people who are more than the more I guess you could say the the less edgy the less sexual the less explicit but the more kind of family-friendly Orthodox Temple Tantra experiences are going to be a lot of ritual as an end in techniques and tools that that are about you counting beads and Counting chance and getting using all of these Scott all the scaffolding and all of these handrails sort of to build the capacity to have full attention in your body and then eventually you are less reliant on on those techniques and it just you just like a martial artist it’s just there when you need it and you just keep time keeping that refresh so yeah I love that idea that I think we’re kind of stripping away layers of domestication we’re getting back back to a more and body Primal state where it wasn’t we weren’t overcoming so many neurotic not than patterns and things in and it would just be a more natural more that’s also the punk rock thing you know I would say as well as they shed this formalities boxes the first module of my program because it got to clear our our modern the roses and there are blocked because it’s like the about stuff like I don’t believe that any of these you can learn sexual techniques but until you get that’s why it’s modular like I teach Advanced sex techniques but I don’t teach that until you get past your blocks and learn how to be present to your body and your breathing and then again you don’t need to do all the fancy he learn Sanskrit stuff all you need to do is learn how to breathe and feel your body I’m stripping it down I’m I’m not I’m getting rid of all the do you know the esoteric because I know not again not everybody’s an energetic I want everybody to be able to relate to my program so I guess I’m not it’s not part of my even though I did all that stuff I’m not going to teach anyone how to chant in Sanskrit I’m going to teach a man how to breathe into their body so they can feel where they have tension in their body and where they can open up and start feeling their emotions thank you again for everything I think we’re about a good point to wrap up if you want to share some final words of advice final insides and then again where people can go to find your work yeah well my website again I already said it is in body – awakening.com and are they can take the quiz for free and then if you want it there to sign up for a session and when our strategy session where we can talk about how we can use the blueprints and how I can work with men specifically and I would put Township punk in the comments because I think that your audience is in particular audience and I would work with the men that come from this podcast different than men that come from another podcast so I would create an individual program although my I have a module program this whole setup is I would modify it according to my listeners and have a one-hour session with them so that’s embody – awakening.com take the quiz and sign up for a strategy session with me awesome well thank you so much man has been a pleasure to talk shop with you and I’ll still be able to have that a resident so I think sometimes people can lose a grounding this and that sort of bullshit detectors at the punk rock movement I think gives us a very good protector and I can tell that you’re upgrading from that place if a healthy skepticism in and also but open-mindedness to and avoiding Dogma avoiding too much too many rules and in too many I don’t think I don’t think you’re going to fall into the style of a cult leader or become a cult leader yourself in a in a bad way so thank you for your offer doing all that work you’re doing and for glad we got to have this conversation and we will be publishing this in the next couple weeks or so getting through a backlog of a previous guess that’s what I will send you the link and we will hopefully be able to talk more again in the future all right right on cool alright well thanks so much again and have a great day thank you. 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In this episode I’m joined again by the illustrious Grace Diaz for an exploration of her adventures and battles online and in Las Vegas as she brings the glory and wildness of the Goddess where she’s needed the most. She shares her frustrations with being betrayed by fellow exotic dancers who sabotage her rise to glory, and her unexplained unexpected deplatforming by Y00T00B.
She’s working hard to raise consciousness and intends to form a union of empowered exotic dancers in Las Vegas. We discuss some different governance and business models exemplified by various women led sex worker organizations and brainstorm on how best to move forward in a good way. It’s definitely a revolution that’s time has come, and we deeply resonate on the value of the healing magic of tantra and the need for it to be accessible in modernized legit goddess temples. The patriarchal bullying that Vegas is based on will be subverted by conscious yoni and heart centered activism. We cover all of these topics and many more!
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My passion of healing began at the age of ten, when my father, a Reiki Master of 20 years initiated me as a Reiki Master in Medellin, Colombia. For years after arriving back to the United States, I began teaching Usui Reiki all over the east coast.
Reiki lead me to Tantra. I was introduced to Shakti-Pakti-Tantric-Yoga by my Guru Tafari Sudra, in 2011, and it allowed me to heal my 10-year eating disorder. Our organization, YONI GRACE, LLC was birthed in 2012 when I felt the burning need to share the wisdom I was experiencing through Yoni Breathing.
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In this episode I’m joined by my new dear friend Mike Bonner for a discussion about ethical magic, sex magic, consciousness, love, fantasy, romance, pansexuality, and much more.
He does a beautiful job laying out both fundamental and advanced concepts for navigating the color spectrum of magic. He also provides very practical down to earth skill sets and tools for keeping your magical practice on a healthy course.
This episode I know will stand as a perennial resource of wisdom to help up and coming seekers avoid the many pitfalls that result from unchecked egoic tendencies in all areas of life. This is a true gift of heart purification!
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 186 I am doing an episode with a new dear friend of mine Mike Bonner who I’ve connected with my social media and is he’s been a listener and fan of the show and we have so much in common I was a long time coming to get this podcast done and we will be many more forthcoming I’m sure you will fall deeply madly in love with all of his wisdom and insights and really enjoy the subject matter which is really foundational to averting catastrophe and and and staying on course for a really beautiful magical manifestation of all kinds so yes again I hope you enjoy and namaste find and reach their own personal strength and power and to be better solves I did a lot of self-discovery over the years it just slipped through a lot of different different I guess variables you can say like through magic to Tantra through I just communicating with people also just kind of going back to my younger years just kind of you know I know that you come from a Punky background and I was in that as well with some coffee stuff and all this kind of such my grandmother had a son used to do this all the time when I was kid so I watched them to all these things and it was really intriguing and I knew that they were actually doing something because I actually didn’t really know what they were doing it’s like seven or eight years old that I care I don’t I don’t mess with anything dark like that I practice a lot of Earth Magic and Sex Magic white magic things like that just trying to use all that energy that I get to build in there and get to like thrusting into creativity that goes into music or I also do hair I do have a barber and a hairdresser and so a lot of it comes out that way and that was also a way that I discovered I guess kind of what I can do for people on they told me that I helped them a lot and I did I I didn’t realize what I was doing at the time when I was working on my client says as a new Barber and hairdresser I just was a very curious person and I wanted to basically just kind of find out everything about the person that I could not in a creepy way either I just felt that the interaction was so personally it’s a vicious open up to you so I I I tried to listen even even even now I’d like to try to listen as best as I can to what people are actually saying whether it be through their words or their body language cuz I believe both are and I think they’re both equally as important I think we’ve all been sitting in front of somebody when they’ve been saying something on their words you know are coming out but their bodies actually saying something else not just desire to me is a real test connection I think within that person solves so I started noticing that another people then I started asking myself is you know I was doing these things too and so I just started to really look into that and also what people were telling me about you know I could see them and work on conversations go away for a month or two or whatever it was and they live out you know this thing that we talked about her and that’s when people say thank you so much I guess I never really thought about it until that point and that’s kind of as a young adult I’d say about 19 or 20 so I started looking more into the different types of Magic the different types of Tantra which I didn’t realize I was already doing all so you know people have this really funny way of how they think about Tantra the nights I think a conversation for another time cuz that’s a whole other topic I guess that’s that’s really my intro all that all sounds very good to me thank you for sharing that apologies for some of the background noise right now but I know are so we talked about it before one of the reasons why I wanted to say hey we should talk about this around feel like something has been missing as far as really laying a solid foundation for what different best practices of ethical magic really are and what some of the the the core principles that people may may be overlooking and just anybody who is sophisticated it has a long-standing practice study and expiration going to various traditions and they’re all that always intrigued me so I love to hear you help us understand some of the 101 aspects of what it means to even embarked on the path of empowering yourself to feel that you’ve been you could achieve magical powers to help with whatever comes to mind if you call yourself different terminology for magic and basically I people can call themselves whatever they like forgot my my what I believe are the real foundations of magic is accountability and responsibility I think those are two very very very strong pieces of the foundation that also translate into into life. I think but when you’re actually practicing magic you know if you’re going to set out to do some kind of ritual or spell whether it’s something that you want to do of your own making and will or you know of something that’s that’s been around for a while or whatever is the intention you have to have to State your intentions first and foremost it’s one of them what’s important things to do even before creating a Sacred Space in a circle for yourself on I like to start there it can take 10 seconds or I can take 10 minutes or longer it is whatever you want whatever your intention or your intentions are super super clear and just try to be really specific and remember that accountability and responsibility the second thing I think you have to do always right after Arby’s just asked for protection whatever it is you like to call upon whether it’s God or gods or goddesses or deities or you have specific helpers that you like to use Envision yourself in some way than protecting you or something of what I what I like to do is basically I I I surround myself in the circle of these big Rose Bush’s basically with these big thorns and these really really sturdy branches and he’s really beautiful roses and everything from the outside can almost see him that’s that’s what I do and I think that’s really really really really have to start so set your intention ask for your protection and pretty much from there on you can start so you can create trade environment I would say either that’s what I like to do if I have the time on the fit something big that you want to put a lot into whether it’s something that you’re manifesting or or celebrating or whatever it is that you’re doing you’re looking for some answers you know what whatever that is you like also candles or Pinot pillows and blankets or whatever is going to make you comfortable to make you feel is going to be I really actually love to to listen to dancing dance select Lisa Gerrard, magic and you said is my soundtrack goldfrapp for me is another one and she’s an insanely powerful witch and and gives us spells and rituals in front of our faces visually and and threw her words and people don’t even realize it so I’d that’s kind of what I like to do when I have the time to spend on relief. Like I said I know you’ve talked a lot about how important it is to open up chakras and it is really important to do that through the kind of ducks are doing a breathing and end this is really really really opening every single cell and poor and hair and everything in this body that work together because we’re meant to experience a lot of different things and then people are are afraid they’re afraid of everything and it’s it’s actually quite a shame that so many people lives in fear of of change of fear of themselves exterior of identity which I think there is a huge lack of these days you know what social media being so so big and what it is you know I know it’s obvious to state that you know it’s a Time suck her and it’s you know all it does is it really makes people feel bad about themselves and in technology you know we’re more connected today than we ever were and we’re also super disconnected. Only with ourselves but with everything else around us you know I really believe I really do believe that there are three types of people and I think I’ve I’ve talked to you about this before been in the world there’s they’re really honestly I’ve tried to break this down to the most simple simplest form and inform me like I said the three types I think that are out there are aware people people like us people who are trying to be better through our mind body and spirit helping ourselves helping each other helping the environment helping everything Universe all that kind of stuff you know we have to be aware of the soldiers I don’t know how else to tend to say that and then we have the masses who are basically just these zombies these are the people you know that are walking off cliffs to get a picture of walking into the streets and they’re just you know they’re consuming and they’re they’re literally eating each other’s faces while we are standing right in front of them and they have no real awareness that there are doing this they’re just sort of this spoon-fed weird overgrown lump is of sorts in now and I don’t know if there are any if there if there’s any help for that. The masses you know which I like to call the zombies and then let’s just let’s go for the 3rd I believe that the other ones are vampires vampires and those are the parasites up there those are the people that just really latch on I mean it is what it is it’s a vampire is Parasite you know we’ve all come across the state if they want to suck you in and they they need to suck you into all that they created the but are you know I just I basically don’t really pay a lot of attention to that eventually they just get bored and move on so that’s kind of how I died deal with that I guess since we’re talking about three years cuz three such powerful number another another thing that I really believes and is that we have three different brains and I know we talked about this before I made you laugh about this but I do believe that we have three different brains one is our head which is the the Periscope with the feeding tube attached to it if you remember correctly. I just we can go on and on about it you know for all of our logic blocks us from a lot of things and it it also thinks that that it tells us reason but what it does is it ends up talking us out of some really good things also and then we have the second brain which I believe is your heart that’s pretty pretty simple that’s where all the emotions come from that’s that’s where all the pier emotions come from it’s it’s it’s whatever you’re doing whenever you get those feelings of of just being so incredibly insurance so happy and and it’s almost childlike you know these childlike feelings of swords and then I want to move on to the third Friday which is your guts and that’s responsible for all the the intuition that most people just choose to ignore that were frankly I think they just don’t hear it sometimes or maybe most of the time I also think that’s where are most Primal South comes from and I try to use those three brains separately to identify different I guess emotions that come from something situations that happened you know I think you have to be pretty clear about where that is coming from to be able to physically pinpoint if it’s if it’s if it’s all in motion if it’s something that I was trying to tell us they’re just not aware of and I like to when I get to talk to people when they’re sitting in my chair or if I’m having a coffee with some water or whatever I mean I’ve I’ve had some great conversations with people just sitting waiting to get my car washed you know all these little connections I I believe in synchronicity also I think synchronicity is is is a real thing and it’s a huge thing and I think that also coincides goes along with magic you know magic is a a change of consciousness within yourself and also be able being able to to change the rib that Consciousness around you it all kind of goes back and points to the same kind of thing you know when when we’re in tune we not only are better people for everything around us but specifically for other people and I think that’s really important and you know cuz the world that we live in right now is just like I said earlier so full of fear and and come and paranoia and I think that everybody just needs to kind of take a step back and really be accountable and be responsible for yourself in hey we’re not be a little responsible for other people to sometimes I don’t think it’s such a bad thing is to also from previous especially bad is part of the ocean that I have kicked her out for a while I really am not going to stay the name of this this fellow but I will say that I was interested in studying a a very accomplished black time trick magician who has very interesting thesis about the difference between white magic and black magic and into to paraphrase what one of the things he said it was basically that you can if you were if you were to truly be a projectile practitioner white magic then you would not attempt to influence the outcome really evenie evenie life of that because that would be so presumptuous to assume that you have the almighty waste God and therefore Could Do no harm and everything you do is going to be perfectly each of the life but more but more realistic see that that’s that’s wishful thinking is my any more realistically it’s it’s it’s a safer intellectual place to own that if you were trying to make any adjustments on the outcomes of anyone’s life your own & Beyond then actually physically a black magician because you are defying the the natural order of things and it’s all semantics my grandmother they were really trying to influence and actually make these things happen good most of the time it was not good and they did and they did it you know I’m with white magic and and and Earth Magic and sex Magik I I don’t I mean I guess influence I guess is the word we can use for now you’re sort of just taking all of this energy bill topping in one way or another if you know however you felt it up and then being able to use that into I don’t know if I don’t know if I would say influence I would say uh manifestation really some people call it prayer some people call it meditation whatever you want to call it I just feel I don’t know I feel like with with those types of magic in the lighter stuff you’re more of asking verses asking and kind of directing your you’re not you’re not really pushing for this this this intense outcome so to speak I mean there’s a there isn’t there definitely has been crazy intense outcomes with different things that I’ve done before but for me I can only speak personally I out of my experience those who have come out of liver a surprise when they did and then I ended up feeling things are experiencing things I’ve never done before I knew that I hit these other levels out of magic so I guess I don’t have never heard I’ve never I’ve never heard that argument but I do understand what what he’s saying by that answer or might my response to that make any sense I think we’re really getting somewhere because you know the simple I guess the shore most likely people who think they’re doing only white magic are doing great magic and people who think they’re only doing Blackmagic are also do it yeah I know I get I totally did I just have never heard it put that way I can only speak from my experience at all I think that’s where the influencing comes comes in the play is that I’ve noticed and gray like you said or black it is it’s usually a demand for something whether that’s a strong demand or a light one or or whatever it does that make sense what you just said right there is so pivotal because if you like I would love to have to be instrumental in in training a new the Next Generation magicians who who who understand you are not understanding of what the parameters of black magic are to eat I don’t want to do it or I don’t do it and do it for someone to trust that you really don’t do is like how do you define it so you know that intuition brain the gut-brain you know something doesn’t feel right doing something that you maybe you’re questioning to a point you know you that much then I would say stop I mean the same thing goes for like when you’re learning a haircut. funny things when it comes to Magic but also it’s that intention and I mean all four of those to me are before you do anything and I guess you know kind of going back to the house he was in a sort of saying that the white magicians are black and black or white and you know all of this is your job to be to be really responsible in in what you’re doing and what you’re asking and what your intentions are I mean it literally all just goes and points back to the same thing when I look at it you know I’m always very very very careful and I’ve been practicing the stuff for sale like I was really honing in on some stuff and then I ended up being a moving to the desert like I do know we talked before the last couple years and not that really propelled me into a whole other level of magic that I’ve never even knew I was capable of and that’s that’s what sort of solidified the the power that I have is things like I said to help other mothers finders in to claim it and and share my practices and what’s helped me put my mind at ease and not not in not just my mind or my brains and all three of them but but my my soul and everything else has is well you know I I’ve always believed this I believe that people really really really have to Value themselves and I mean really value themselves cuz it’s a direct reflection of how you interact with everything around you not just the other people but Adam Wilson you know that our sins and everything and I feel like a lot of people don’t value themselves these days for whatever reason it is and then like I said where you can sell you endless consuming society and in the end it didn’t they just bursting at the seams with human child basically it’s their eyes and ears are being consumed by you know the Kardashians and the news and the biscuits and you know just all this crazy shit instead of putting other things in in there you know turn the TV off so you can have the internet than the TV bundle in the whole deal I always tell them you know that’s a lot but I am one of those weirdos and every single time I got the same response it’s what do you do what do you do with yourself I don’t understand what you do explain to them exactly what I did or whatever I’m not going to I’m not going to tell the poor girl at Time Warner one network to the other all right where we exactly where when you realize that when you got cut off but if I could bring us back to where to elaborate on and I was going to say the one I love about how you framed the distinction between the white and black magic Continuum is really about what the ad if I’m understanding correctly and I’ll kind of rephrase this is like the step-by-step would be the intention and then the call the intention is to do no harm and to do good or to do well or to heal or to manifest positivity or something of us open generate so positivity as he has the intention and then instead of instead of imposing your your sort of self-promoting self-aggrandizing or somehow that comes from what are you but I believe in a lot of that comes from Eco you know about asking and asking and away and also just trying to coddle it enter to she also harness it at the same time you know there’s a gentleness to it and also the black magic in the darker Arts I find it very demanding when they’re asking its atom and it’s a hey. I feel like a lot of it just comes from the ego you know it isn’t that is what I think is like I’m going to make this happen this is going to happen because I say I’m a powerfuel I I’m this powerful I’m blah blah blah you know when I when I come to my own personal power I let it speak to me I know that sounds corny and whatever but I do you know I left I let it talk to me I mean the other day I was brushing my teeth in the bathroom and I had a really really funny experience on the window is directly behind me and it looks up into these really beautiful trees and I was just brushing my teeth tonight I got whatever it was I didn’t really pay any trees with the branches coming up looks like basically he’s like Kevin Lee really amazing earth Spirits they just look like these pillars with these what their hands up into the air in the sun was coming through for me to be able to recognize that as I’m just one daily brushing my teeth and you know doing whatever to see something like that I think it’s really Spectacular Now and Then that led needs some thinking and then I’d like to writing and then that actually led to sort of I guess you’d call it a vegetable that I said last night I didn’t even really plan on doing on from just brushing my teeth looking up and being just being open and aware enough to accept things like this when when the earth is giving you something when a person or another being I don’t feel like there are coincidences with the black it’s like these definitive I guess like miles to basically justify and validate that your accessory is working does that make sense other assorted from distinction I’m thinking trying to access my normally very inefficient left brain I’m trying to figure out almost mathematical or algorithmic type of thinking to this mechanical or robotic but I think the juxtaposition of the news actually really quite wonderful I feel like magic can be an if-then type algorithm where you basically about what is an if-then a recipe is an algorithm in the algorithm is the recipe so there you have it so it’s the thing of it that way I’d say where we are on this graph for this this these branches that are coming out from a tree or a sort of thought bubble you know this series of steps and process uses that the the intention now I’m kind of seeing how the way to it’s not like it gets completely Amorphis because the intention could be to raise a million dollars for charity which which has elements of it that are are very parameterize do you know you have the not be a dollar amount you have the the sort of limiting factor that it be for a nonprofit organization for some charitable cause that you would hope will be auctioned charity than it would have some wedding on what its value is what is what is a specific charity and what do they do for people that Community whatever it is you know animals once again to that in ten and then your accountability and responsibility to that attention to that make sense so the intention let’s say if it was to save the polar bears you would focus on the help and try calling on not just got all that stuff you know put the energy out there throwing out a million tentacles at one time you’re not quite a fishing that but like you’re trying to zap and you’re trying to get an end open these channels up and try to reach other people I’m in spine that. Sort of tap into their goodness as well you know and end end it’s all I can kind of see what the intention is to save the polar bears do to do all the stuff of course you know you want to be able to hit this goals and that is obviously important but I think that the weight of it needs to go back to what the what the reason and why why you’re you’re why you’re doing this why you feel so strongly about it to me that’s more to me that’s more important you know cuz when it’s with all of that projection and all of that even when you’re when you’re putting that out there too I just I feel like it’s it’s just better all the way around energetically speaking we have it well yeah because you could ask for billing and maybe it cost you a hundred million and if you would have just said get the job done you would have been really really really specific cuz I have been many times when I’m sure it’s going to happen again because I really focused on the on X y&z now I know I was really really really sure let’s go forward a little bit and woe holyshit all this stuff wow okay this is this is incredible you know I’m just asking you know asking for things and not being afraid to ask so I got all these two I got all the pieces but I didn’t quite get them in the order I wanted them in right is that make you know what I mean weather at make the Joker’s like you had your prayers are answered but it’s distributed you know they are dropped but they’re broken in two packages across time and space you have to like hang on to that key that you found in the gutter for like 5 years in that door that you can’t open that you thought you should be able to the keys in your pocket it and then reveal their working towards towards something good it was in a different order or it was just not quite like I said I thought I was even more than I had to go back and look at my writing it look at and that’s my accountability in my responsibility to myself and University anyway I know I mean I know it’s a little tiny things but things has lasers with the order of the universe and that’s why I say you know I will always go back to accountability responsibility and intention and that has actually helped me with those actually put those into everyday use all the time in my life and it and it really really does Century because I’m always stand under them sesef creepy way but you know I just I want to be accountable for my actions for the things that come out of my mouth which is why I choose my words you know in my tone and my delivery very carefully you know I want to be responsible not just to myself but but two other people of the earth you know animals everything I want to be responsible to the magic I want to be responsible to people are saying that that I you know she’ll balance somewhere I don’t I don’t I never considered myself you know I just have to kind of go you hear it enough times from people you got to start looking into it you know and I’ve always been really humble about not just like my hair dressing as well and it’s cool to have been able to the Catalyst that field my inch extend a check and intent ra and yoga and just self-exploration with my mind body and spirit you know and it’s cool like I said what such an intimate exchange that I’m having with my clients in my relationships whether it’s been you know 6 months or 20 years I’ve been doing this 23 years and I literally get to practice my magic everyday all day not just when I’m at work it seems to be more concentrated when I’m at work because obviously you know that I protect myself every single day at work at 10 in the morning I’m up at like 5 or 6 I can’t just get up and go like I need to have a really slow the morning and and just spend some time with myself 3 years ago and she’s like I know it’s going to sound stupid but really she was telling me that I did a really good job and I was able to just walk away from it and not be angry and not be anything and you know if anything I felt that stunted and at their age they’re never going to really have the chance to kind of play another way and I think that it was because they didn’t want to be another way but but what I was saying was she wanted me to be aware of it and I was but I didn’t I didn’t see it through her eyes and never get to see each other selves exactly how other people see us and we never will you know and so she said you know you need to look at yourself in the mirror tonight for 30 seconds straight in the eyes and tell yourself thank you you’re a badass and you should have really fucking good job. Cutting salon or if I you know help somebody out that day or whatever I got a phone call from a client with her friends you know after we talk after we took whatever and they are thinking I have to be really humble you know I’m not passing out and I’m not handing out like free I don’t want I don’t like unsolicited advice you know it’s so one of the first things I do ask people not just with my work and I could be the hairdressing barbering star that could be counseling or are you know just just helping people with magic just keep it really clear it really really really really clear about what your intentions are. Yeah that really setting in and like I said not in a weird obsessive way but they put it really does make you rethink your reactions or even you know have not having a reaction to something is a reaction and I think a lot of us need to practice on a lot more you know not a not having a reaction to something even even possible yeah yeah and don’t keep it on Harrison into some fire you know I mean I try to walk that person away from the fire cuz I don’t know I just I think I truly believe that everybody deserves to be happy it starts with ourselves that it actually it’s that needing that wants to become a better man for myself or and it flows out if you and is infectious you know toddlers but I really do believe it has to be that first and foremost thing you said it’s important to note that says in this some kind of an outline here it is said your ability to stay accountable really if we if we look zoom into that word we’re talking about accounting it brings to mind the notion of a ledger and unassertive bookkeeping and so the bookkeeping is your book of spells so if you if you crave cast that magic spell and you do you set your intention and then you you see that it might be going walk or something but you have the ability to go back to that date and you do it on a spicious days of the calendar so that you can know where to where to go back to it are you confusing software you can search for it but to be able to if you if you just you just verbalize it you may not remember which I constantly have so many different books and actually you know I have one that’s kind of a general one that I’m constantly have about three or four that I’m kind of working at one time always you know one of them is for my partner and I specifically for both of us you know one of them is kind of a general one one is from me and my interactions with yellow lines notebook pads you know like the legal ones and so I just write down a lot of stuff I’m not a writer I just I just ride a lot of things down your bullet point things to make things all kinds of stuff you know you you can you already know or you trying to collect what that smell is what that ritual is what you’re trying to do put it all down and then once once you actually do everything you can either form at it before you know if you want a bullet point the different steps that you want to do like I say if you’re doing a spell the ritual that you created for yourself I think that’s completely fine you want to give things objects meanings you want to you know do it do I’m all for that you know I don’t care what it is you use I like to use a combination of different things that I’ve collected throughout the years symbolize different stuff for me and also I like to use a lot of different crystals in a lot of different God where we going with this I’m so sorry Vizio creating your own ritual is what I was saying there we go and just put a little bit of the power of writing it down so you can go back and check on it and might get the answer you could actually addressed it you know you could be right in a mandarin constitutional freedoms and yeah right down all the stuff cuz I actually do have a cooking diary that I do cuz I like to call so and so I take notes of every single thing that I do and it’s also just really good to go back and review or you know even just to kind of go back and read these books and see you know it’s a really interesting way to tell my own story to myself you know no one really gets to look at these except you know every now and then my I’ll show my boyfriend are you know maybe I’ll show up page or something or two or you know whatever it is I share a lot with him the one that I have I’m supposed to mean I was just really cool Connection in the synchronicities that we have together having said that I’ll come right down and write down your rituals in your spells you know if you eat your your journey as a magician really I mean we do this weekend with our card since you know so it’s basically keeping sort of your own it’s kind of like a journal in a report card and a bunch of other things all thrown in together you know and then again I think it’s just an interesting way of contacting some books that are like 15 years old has moved back to the city of December to write thank you notes bass like it’s all me I can all you know I can see and I can feel that it’s all me but just to watch the evolution of but just the awareness and the openness because I really really really might my 30s for me were about being really open and I thought I was open and I wasn’t certain ways but I was so closed off and scared and invulnerable most mostly on a sort of an emotional level would certain Dynamics and I just was like fuck it you know this I really really really want to know what this is like I want to know what that’s like I want to know what it’s like to really still open and so I had to learn that the process of letting go look at myself as a work in progress as we all are letting letting go was like one of my biggest lessons in keeping things simple Letting Go being present I’m old I don’t take anything personally and I used to take as I was a fucking crazy ass young double Scorpio and pass shit and I I just would be exhausted and I didn’t have time for myself so I had that was another thing that actually made me focus on myself and go okay this is going back to I have to be able to take to help myself and I can’t I can’t complete all of my energy and all of everything that I have two other people all the time you know if there’s a limit there’s a limit that I can get especially like in a work setting are in a social setting is for a social and I am actually quite an introvert I really prefer just like mellow chill kind of stuff you know I was going to say just one that I would like everyone to try to practice is to just really not take anything really personally because ultimately you know I am the only person who’s responsible for my own feelings whatever they are it is a matter of somebody says something to you that’s true or not or whatever it is I get to choose how I feel about everything absolutely that’s one of the Four Agreements Don Miguel Ruiz Four Agreements don’t take things to do your best dentist that take things personally and celebration I have for you so I think this was a good intro and I think too kind of I’d like to just give you one more sort of topic to explore for now and then we can leave it also is a bit of a cliffhanger we can come back I think there’s a lot of stuff more to unpack future episodes so I think that would be good to just have to have this be the very beginning intro kind of introduction to to your pear diamond and I appreciate this is a gold mine this is that I feel like you’re this is such a like I found the end of the rainbow here this is this treasure all about is is beyond I don’t even have words for it I mean I listen to your podcast for a really long time you know any what you know and then we ended up messaging somewhere along the line and I’m just saying is that I’m very thankful that I got to connect with you just just even sending you a note that one time or whatever it’s just all these things that we’ve had I’ve always enjoyed them seriously thank you I mean I know and I can I listen to your show and I know the time of people that you have on all the time for me to be part of this I mean even just one time is is really cool for me to be able to share this stuff with you with you and and everyone who listens to you so I just want to say thanks again I’m super super green food you’re welcome and thank you and if they have mutual honor him and blessing and I would say yeah the thing that’s on my mind for you know something soon to refund a bit now before we close for this this first episode we something that is the sort of throws a monkey wrench into the the very elegant logic that we have worked together here to kind of layout in Spanish of the sizes is what I would I have explored is is sort of the how to be accountable and responsible and ethical with the desire to pursue or seduce someone in the how that well you were sexually stimulating yourself and fantasizing about a sexual outcome with a potential partner that there is like for me I have a sort of framework work checklist where where I do want to have some clear intention in and released released that monitor my vibration around the energy and certainly of the conduct my own conduct in the Fantasy Realm because it is I believe a a a karmic casino to be fantasizing sexually and so you got to be with what are your thoughts on that can be it’s murky territory when we look at what’s the difference between it all that well the grace World of Magic here so we have please take away about what the intention as you know see if you see incredible person whether that be attached that’s that’s usually the person you want to buy what is the most important question is he this and it hit me the right way whatever it is you know like I said that’s really really ask yourself why practice is a bunch a lot of different things are where they are on a spiritual level you know versus someone who isn’t that all I mean to did you did you have liked it with your question were you thinking more about someone who is more open and spiritually aware or in touch with you know themselves and everything around them or are you speaking of just sort of like more social let me have I guess I’ll share with you a little bit of a little bit of intimate details about how I solely what year is this to me I feel like this I very very rarely use pornography of any kind as the visual aid or stimulant for myself because you know when I was a lot younger and a lot hornier and a lot less sophisticated spiritually I would say if I dare say then he was just fodder but the thing is what I and I was also jaculating constantly without any so and that was because of the Paradigm that that I was them at that that area of acid images of human consciousness in the West the surface ship that we’ve talked about before it right so that said to me that what I like what I know now if I would have known then what I know now I would have said to myself to have a practice more like what I have now wishes to Safeway when I fantasize about a future sexual encounter it really has got to actually in my mind be a very plausible realistic potential outcome with someone who is it is accessible by some believe with me and so I’m not really jerking off to dead people and I only brought enough to movie stars and people who unless I really really believe that what I want to do is structure my destiny to encounter them and have us have a mutual Very sensual erotic Mutual exchange I don’t really waste my Prada I don’t waste my see that as my Jing I’m not going to spill my seed in where to put a spell that has really no it’s not really a meritorious or whatever the word will be it doesn’t really it’s not part of my destiny so and this is just me kind of putting my thoughts into the into the original question for Texas is that I feel like the I would either they’re up there are people there are always a list of people who I’m attracted to in my life who are in weed ovarian degrees of proximity to me and in Space the time I suppose but maybe hey sup maybe some of them are are in committed monogamous relationships and therefore I’m also risking the the karmic consequences of of like astral home-wrecking by have a responsibility in that situation is just about being responsible on a sexual and a spiritual and in a personal level and in on a friendship level if that’s where it is too you know I mean I I’ve had experiences with other with other people before and even if it’s going to be a one-time thing from for me or for us or for whatever it is I’m very clear with one wants if that makes sense I don’t just let somebody why don’t open the door. Not physically but you know what I mean just open open the door and let them walk in and when wander around you know I’d I’d like to say okay look you know I am and I’m really really Frank here I have told you guys before it’s like look you know in my mind I’m going okay I know this is probably be like a one-time thing doesn’t happen all that often or it happened all that often but I would say with hey look I’m not looking for pornsex I’m not looking to get off like I want to actually have sex with an nnn if you don’t know what that means you know really that I can cut if you’re willing if you’re willing I can kind of show you a different way of going out this an interesting really super clear that’s where that double fucking Scorpio comes in you know I just I can’t lie and I’m very very very direct and I will say that in my experience I have it’s been it’s been really fine with that and sometimes it’s been really great or like let’s say you know you end up meeting somebody and there’s a connection there’s a little bit of a friendship and then it goes there sexually and then you realize that’s okay I don’t want to be in a committed thing with you or I’m not you know any in a space where I could be in a relationship whether you want to or not that’s just you know what it is to be able to be emotionally irresponsible not to yourself and accountability to the other person as well and yourself I want to have a really good hopefully intense on whatever level sexual experience with somebody that’s problem with most men is that most people I would say in general but they’re just so used to getting off by using corn by using this by using whatever and I just I feel like it when you get it really really really in tune with yourself you’re going back to say it with what you were saying like I just don’t want to spill my seed and then wasted I I feel the same way but at the same time like there have been several times were the sex that I have with my boyfriend my actual partner is incredible and it just keeps getting better and better and better and sometimes I mean we don’t set out for this but like it will end up coming like six times over you know some hours or whatever it is and it’s like holyfuck like Jesus Christ and then you know it’s almost like that sort of Monex states where you just had sex had nowhere you everything just is talking to you the leaves it wasn’t just getting off you guys were able to connect on levels where you really took each other separately and together to other places I mean this I have had some experience with this man his name is Johnny Ray he’s he’s really seriously the best person I’ve ever been with I’ve never been with anybody like him he has experience in the matter with him have been just utterly mind-blowingly shocking in a really good way swear he’s actually aided me in seeing certain things while doing sex magick and while doing some other stuff like that I’d like that I actually saw even though my eyes were closed I saw these things I went places you know really interesting and I took a long time to kind of develop but like I I I don’t know I I find again I just think that like you don’t you just say you have to really be responsible but it do whatever is right for you is what I’m saying like I said if if you’re if you’re in a situation where if it feels right that that you’re going to come again then go for it you know if you can try that you don’t try to do all that cuz that’s because it makes the experience more intense and there’s so much more than just like I said then getting off you know another program to do and and there are a lot of times to ejaculate at all and still have an equally razee go to experience you know a lot of full body in touch with your actual magic right there you know well I think on that note I don’t think we could end on a better a better note in a better place to conclude I think that really is a great a great introduction and this is this smoking hot material and I can’t wait to to keep exploring I’m more of this and zooming into various aspects so for now we’ll see it are there any specific ways that you would like listen this to reach out to you how can I go get a nice haircut it’s the same it’s Mike Bonner hair so m i k e b o n n e r and then hair hair at gmail.com on Instagram I do tarot readings to I don’t claim the psychic I’m not really really really try to connect with people on listen to them that’s what I try to do this first and foremost well I got to say it has been an absolute treat and Prejudice is like such a bicycle synchronistic to be able to just have this Pockets out there than have it find people and then and then all the sudden we’re we’re already talking when you’re adding a lot to to this this archive this is sort of the akashic record that I’m not curious to hear so thank you so much again and I look forward to next time I will yeah everybody have sweet and sweet dreams and a good prayers and magic spells and we will help keep each other accountable and responsible and also remember that intention with everything just intense so important did all right all right I will take you with you Google talk to you so I would actually like to share and I now just thinking of it I have an example of a personal and almost perfect example of a white magick manifestation which will then I’ll create a ritual around this that’ll be done free for a year basically starts in November that’s the the month I was born and so for me not on the same calendar as everybody else when they do their resolutions and all that kind of stuff you know in January I mean frankly it just doesn’t mean anything to me November my birth my own personal earlier anyhow having said that I have been working on just trying to manifest and think about him focused a lot of energy on what I want out of this coming year and sometimes it happens before November sometimes it happens during and and this time it took a couple months and so anyhow I woke up yesterday morning and the first thing on my mind was what I heard was this is just the beginning and I have I just move back to LA from being out in the deserts the high desert in Southern California for the last two years I needed a break from everything the city in and then what not and are all the noise and everything that comes and goes around it that clutters us up so I went out to the desert and a long story short I really needed to clear a lot of things Within Myself And also physically all that all my environment you know that is so beautiful and quiet and pretty desolate out there but it’s booming with life you know you sit there for just start looking and listening and you can just literally see everything breathing, there is a lot of movement actually I’m in that Stillness so when I had woke up yesterday that that raise this is just the beginning was really really strong in my head and the next one was come to life on my desk and just wrote what was coming out so and manifestation for the year which is so cool how that happened yeah I was I was actually kind of Blown Away by it at the end of it just because I felt like I’d gotten such a good I don’t know I guess I connected with a part of myself and I really listened to to to whatever it is or whatever they were trying to say to me in an hour or whether it was part of me as well I don’t know the point is that it’s I feel really really great and humbled that it came out so I’m just going to read you what what this sort of white magick manifestation isn’t this is just the beginning come to life it is the real you that speaks through your rebellious Sacred Heart in this living your life not the monkey mind the mind is not much more than a swirling canopy of Habitual reactions your monkey mind is not to run the show at the moment it might have a lot to say and at times it seems very convincing but it’s not the one in charge remember are three different brands one that had drained brain scuse me the mines brain which I like to also call once again the Periscope with the feeding tube attached that brain is responsible for logic and reason number two are other brain is the heart the heart brain you know the heart responsible for our emotions the death of things and our reactions to things I believe is Our God’s are intuition brain I believe it’s also very Primal and Saul so it didn’t stink you know I’m going to focus on the hearts and intuition brain and remember to the monkey brain rest gets us into trouble and the additional thoughts and creative and energetic Awakening is happening it is so far beyond what the mind is now capable of controlling others might not like it because it means change coming to life tends to do that however it is now and the only real choice I have to make is how to deal with it coming to life means feeling treating the space and just doing it don’t hold back and this process I will uncover the Artistry of the universal Creator and creators I will honor the sacredness of Life by exploring it without restraint and that includes the flow of my feelings I don’t have to do anything with them other than Express them learning how to access feeling allows you to learn how to access intuition creative inspiration and internal guidance I have chosen to come into a body and live consciously within it even in times of pain know and trust that there will be also ecstasy and Bliss as the process of healing and Awakening continues the message is be alive there’s no going back no falling into old ways I have crossed the threshold from an old way of being in an old life and try as I might I cannot return besides it won’t be the same as it used to griever celebrate do both move on there’s a new adventure awaiting me now and I want even deeper connection to my own instincts my body feelings intuition magic and everything I will trust and embrace it and it will trust and embrace me in return. 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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 130 I am joined by Jacqueline Hellyer she is a sex therapist clinical sexologist and Tantra teacher and I came across an interesting thesis of hers that she would a book about and has a some trainings that she’s offering for about seven sex goddesses which sounds very exciting and intriguing and I will be very excited to hear about that assist in outlining and what the offerings are all about I definitely feel that my mission to connect the goddess Traditions back up with Tantra and yoga and so anybody who’s on that path is a friend of mine I say so with that said Jaclyn would you like to tell us about your background how you became the wonderful person that you are now and what we can learn about the seven goddesses after that I’ve been working in the field of psychology so quite a number B is now staying at your mission in life so you. Go ahead and do it has been quite interesting to me to be able to bring all of this just for this area and to me working on sexuality is really important because we we just separated out sex in the rest of life or just been doing it for so long in the west that we really don’t have a particularly mature approach to six I’m in Wesley tensional understand its importance it’s tala its life-giving force in so many areas not just creating new babies but in terms of regenerating a bicycle and alive so I’m really excited to work with people to help them having to decide of themselves and from that then they can become they can find a real columnas in themselves and end in their lives and part of that to come back to the goddesses he’s helping helping fund the equality back between the men and women because part of the suppression of the sexuality was essentially a suppression of female sexuality and I could go into a long history is very sad history of 6 in the West Memphis Three female sexuality in the west but we just pulled up goals has so many countless Generations thousands of years to think that they went sexual and shouldn’t be sexual and if by some mischance they will actually tended to Stone them to death will burn them at the stake will look them up in insane asylums I don’t have America been in Australia was still looking goes up for promiscuity in the 1970s was good was considered to be mentally insane without to really be in touch with the sexualities know anything about it whatsoever and going to a dumpling the gods the patriarchy and that’s the sad history of sexuality what were you supposed to do you knew was playing when you paint us which is something that boys love to do and there’s nothing wrong with playing with your penis vegetation finally which was essentially well your economically dependent on this man for the rest of your life men have their names make sure they match doesn’t take too long you’re not very inspiring and it was very much seen as a female sexuality was purely and simply there to satisfy mean sexuality something that women feet full name women sexuality was that service some men sexuality which is very limiting and it means we grew up in the west with a view of states that is essentially masturbate every it’s like you go to be horny is going to be a lot of genital friction and it finishes with an orgasm orgasm so long why but preferably one that’s really obvious and somehow resembles that that really piqued ejaculatory orgasm of the man because of course women have to be like men should be considered this is why I speak with people all day long because I am wrong it is it is in the model and what I love about the tent Rica private channels are the Dallas from in China and this could ocean other approaches to tighten stuff is that a much different approach to that and it’s not just as much masturbating thing as it’s truly about making love between people even if you are doing it on your own for masturbation of the tantric night shot and it just changes everything when you do that so will you ask me about the seven 6 go to Susan particular Road my history keep going. I love to know more about in your past and your trainings and your experiences and especially that you have the sort of you got the warrior goddess archetype going pretty strong are sounds like I got me again just for a moment I’m not want to go so figure he’s he likes to talk about herself and flash photos of myself all over the internet but I will unfortunately I have nice chick button so you know I do pretty good photo but that really is completely irrelevant to how I help people so when I was a child. According to my parents unusual questions made very old books sign Sisto Aria and the priests those my free Cooling and I’ve kind of dumb that I mean I was as I said I got to high level in Aikido to the Marshall out of there and send me doing this kind of work you need to have the Warriors spirit because you’re up against be up against I’m really entrenched points of view and she can’t be too soft to just you wouldn’t get anywhere so but at the same time and one of the reasons why I love the warrior code is that it’s not about being you know oil Yang and and there’s some blood crazy frenzy kind of intensity it’s actually about being able to meet people as equals and to be able to match yourself to where they’re at that’s what the area code is all about so that’s the warrior in me how the sign says just cuz it was absolutely fascinated by life in existence and everything from your the physical to the spiritual because I believe we Are Spiritual Beings manifest in the physical plane so we’re here to have some kind of physical experience and if there’s one thing we can do in the physical it’s have sex so clearly that’s an important thing we we help people get in touch with spirituality and find purpose and meaning in Payson lost side that’s essentially what it’s all about and I guess is a therapist and a priest in a while so yes said that’s me so I started doing yoga in front of the TV when I was eight with my mother as fast as she was doing yoga classes at 11:16 so yes I think many decades of studying at many different levels so I do consider myself a transpersonal therapist which means we look at the physical be emotionally intellectual ends with spiritual I like to think that I’ve developed in full cuz if you want to be hold the person and you need to be balanced in that way and yes I remember ginger and I was having sex with other people and then we’ll guy wow this is really amazing like what are you doing here this is different and you really like six don’t you and stuff like that has like a map to be reading about tantrum because I had training I had changed creative a sex therapist there’s another story behind that which I share in a minute to be like Lawson cycles and I really need to teach people this around that time I made up with shriek teacher in the world and we got set up for a Skype session at the end of three hours later he was like holy shit I’ve never met a woman who could match me energetically so we became Scott Club is for a while and it was actually was at that time that I really started to feel these different goddess Energies and every one of those things this guy was saying to me is that when he works with women what he does is he opens them up to their sexuality and allows different sexual energies to plug up the different types of Sexual Energy slowing but then we came to me that’s what we needed as women and I know his men because I do this for me into mostly because that’s not what I like to lump it all into one box and we don’t look at the the subtlety of the different flavors of what’s behind what we’re bringing to the encounter which means a certain approach and what I was getting from experiencing these different goddess energies and doing for the meditations quite a lot of deep trance meditation and get lots of information that way was that ideally as an individual human being we can access all of these different Sexual Energy please different elements one element for instance is about being able to nut should the other being able to attend to the album and it’s a very giving kind of a sexuality is very paying attention to the other in contrast to that there’s the one that’s much more about yourself and being ever ask for what you want and being able to fully received and a lot of women are very stuck in the former because that’s about the history of female sexuality is that it stay with men sexually so a lot of women will really fall into that energy and I don’t think it really confused about it because and then I start time as I get so many women saying all and I’m in a selfish lovers and letting it old man enough for cysts in your men are assholes and all this other stuff LOL if you’ll try to relate to them purely from that energy then yes they will seem like that because you are not actually opening up a notch and showering enough of yourself that they can actually relate to you in any other way because if you’re only relating in that wine that serve a role will then he cannot even like back in the take a role just want to make sure yeah and that’s just one of them is actually 7 and they’re also ordered a Kawhi up so that to get to wear a lot of women wanted to get has to be able to completely let go so that you can stay and when your sexuality really beautiful Festival of the other energies first you have to be able to access will the first ones just do that yourself about feeling okay with you you are as an individual before you even think about engaging with really disengaged from your own sexuality he thinks your genitals or so to be weird and funny looking in my view bit smelly and Earl I’m not like we just cool it down there with my ladies bezel something you never going to get any way to sort of doing all of these deep meditation Zinn musings on a different energies that we’re coming through and it took me quite a while to sort of makes sense of the whole thing with that I didn’t want to give the names of existing goddesses because I think we just need something more contemporary I think we need something that modern women can relate to and it which is not to say that you’re any of the old Hindu goddesses or any of the old Celtic goddesses on the American Indians because they’ve got a plethora of goddesses in the history of the world the wonderful and they represent in a particular culture I’m so I just wanted to freshen it up a little bit because I believe that if acacian of an energy so to call them call Leo shocked I like I don’t know that it’s necessarily all that helpful for men and women to try and relate to you have the concept of a goddess that was developed in India you know a thousand years ago I’m so glad you’re doing this now I’m really getting Goosebumps because I feel like that really puts into calls into question and it shows like literally that it’s just if you could be impossible released in a fission to try to sit and translate and extrapolate all of these unknowns about time is it were pretty thoroughly devastated and destroyed by conquest and colonization and then trying to reconstruct an ancient archetype with misinformation and then extrapolated so I really don’t really intrigued to sounds great I really like me some tantric people don’t like what I’m doing that kind of light you know you know you are a test and you don’t following Ali need to cover taureans and cover themselves in the ashes of dead people to prove that non-attachment to life and I’m like modern waste in is really want to do that you know how are you doing in class review see at the cemetery you know I think for me what was coming through these different energies was was actually the will be able to eat the whole thing so let’s just go back to that Purity and I guess it’s all so proud of the scientist in me as well. I’m really big ever since I was a teenager being big on quantum physics and that’s your reality is really nothing except it’s huge expensive spice with these funny little kind of things that flicker in and out of time and space you know it’s kind of like you know that that really is very Buddhist you know I like that he’s actually nothing so everything is just so penile it looks kind of get rid of all the labels and the guy saying it’s got to be these so it’s got to be that and just trying to find something to be pure and something that hopefully more than people can relate to and the only reason why I did this because I mostly work with mainstream people most of my clientele is pretty mainstream you know there are areas of Australia with Uncle types and that’s all Fantastic Four were sitting down and start changing oil with them as valuable as that is going to be able to relate to that I’m sorry I just felt that it was also Mall opening and and makes it more approachable for people if it was done in a way that just had a bit more about the Westin and contemporary kind of flavor to it so yeah so that’s light of the seven six call this is for the Modern Woman to the Contemporary woman the signs as to what really excites me this is what I get really geeky use when modern science proves ancient end with finally finally in science actually starting to look at some pretty cool stuff we’re looking at the nature of Consciousness and we’re looking at how the brain of the whole bodies into connected and and psychological studies to our understanding how important is to humans for health and wellbeing to be able to have secure attachment with other people so that we feel safe because we’re very social species and when you stop putting together all of his mind stuff in his emotional stuff and and then the physical I mean acceptance this isn’t it’s all the same thing yes LOL awesome so now you’re you’re do you want to talk about your your creative Works to art that you do and Me Rollin and whatnot is his very interesting exciting to me I would love to understand more about what we really are playing in that in those respects on the street making music painting and I was a lot more egotistical than I am now a lot more naive in a lot less compassionate and you know I was growing I was 18 when I was in the thick of it at backing and I can’t believe the crazy stuff that I was doing back then just walking up to people and saying you need a miracle here I’m going to paint a I want you and just how with my mind I could make so many things happen with my heart as well but it was very mind driven and now I’m starting to realize how I can do the same things just leaving from my heart center you know and having it connected to send so many things that are bigger than myself and so I did that for a long time backpacking and then I went High corporate and working in all these corporations learn about PR and branding and for the last year-and-a-half before before this year so last year I basically you work as an independent consultant for small Brands and startups in big Brands and technology for rebranding their whole the whole strategies basically you know and then here I am doing the same exact thing that I was doing when I was a free spirit anarchists living Barefoot traveling the world and so it’s really funny and satisfying see it. Oh we’re now I’m here making music and painting mirror but now is so much more aligned and with more resources and energy directed in a way that is that is just more useful for everybody so I hope to continue learning and I feel very thankful to be in connection with the people that you know that I have been meeting the whole crypto art murals is for me away to be known as a writer at hard and the writer as a trade putting out content in a written way is really useful but it doesn’t reach everybody if you don’t have internet and you don’t know how to read you’re not going to get this information and so painting a mural in a community where the Arts is available to everybody and you can just stand in front of it and be curious feel sad feel happy feel whatever it is and ignite your curiosity for your own research that is insanely powerful and I know that because I have cried in front of murals I have taken pictures in front of murals at that made me realize something about myself and that is one aspect right of the that the massive big scale Arts that can that can provide a message for an entire community and then the other half is supporting these artists you know myself and then everybody else who I see struggling so much to do what they love and they’re so good at it and and disciplined enough wealth in the right hands is an opportunity for us to fill up every single block of the chain you note for the artist to paint if that’s what they want to do the visual artist want a fan or the artist want to make music or the artist who wants you to create experiences that are interactive and then for the people who are good at managing and just love discovering and helping and connecting to do just that and do not have to do all the other things and for the web developers to develop their websites and it’s just he just amongst my own friends and connections here how much energy and time we’re wasting by not working together and so the more people I meet in the blockchain crypto or are crypto blockchain connection space the more I want to all of us to do our shows in crypto shows together because it makes no sense for everybody to be spending their energy resources in in building a website if you hate building a website you know like if you want to paint just paint and then we’ll find people to build a website for you and and I encountered a lot of people fear based in this space who are all about competition and want to do and they don’t want anything to do with other brands and then I encourage I mean I’ve encountered so many more people on the collaborative side and that’s where an archipelago that’s where it what I felt that are not a couple, but I felt like I like people were down to connect and they said yes to all the projects and let’s get on a phone call and it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from if you want to help and it aligns let’s do it you know and that is really refreshing and I think that’s the way the Psychedelic or open-minded or meditation more expensive way of looking at this movement awesome God you want to talk more about just practicing meditation and what sort of how your your spiritual processes and maybe tips you have for people who are coming into here wanting to participate in this technology space and an actually starting to you know they say the first time you start to have some actual games in your cryptocurrency portfolio than I can say from experience I just want to give my life to the movement because it’s changed my life so much and I want to just be in service but I’m not a coder and I’m not really I’m kind of a wannabe geek so imagine making this cultural Ambassador you know doing that like if we were talking about him in franchising people you have said yes to Justin tips about what it’s like to be adapting to this new I mean you’re providing a platform for people to express themselves and you’re finding people like me who you know I’m nobody in this world and at the same time I very I feel like I’m a very important piece of the puzzle and I haven’t always felt that way my own SoCal you wasn’t where it’s at and I you know I need the others and you need the others and so you already doing so much and I really appreciate you reaching out and wanting to give a voice to people like me who maybe you’re not on the you know I feel like I’m behind the scenes a lot and now you can’t necessarily reach out to to you know I don’t know bigger a larger what it’s called platforms and say Authority terribly I need to speak on this or be on a panel specifically and yet at the same time so many opportunities like this have presented themselves to me like being on humans of Bitcoin or the libertarian Radio free talk live or your show and so many others and so it’s it’s such a beautiful synchronous synchronicity how we all find each other and I’m being hard open to supporting each other and that’s what it’s all about so to me when people ask me what is a blockchain artist what makes you a crypto artist or what how can I get involved in this way if I don’t have any coding skills or if I don’t have any if I don’t feel like a nerd at hard or any or if I don’t have any connection the truth is that most of the people that are even curious about this movement or that believe in Freedom are already a part of this movement you know what I mean and it’s just lack of Education or lack of information and lack of system or container though it’s being created right now and so anything that you care about and if you respect freedom and the evolution of humankind through compassion and love that is blockchain with me and I know it sounds really extreme for some people but it’s really is I mean if your yoga teacher you can download and secure whatever wallet of your choice I love Edge they you know they just upgraded to their shape-shifting converting application which I didn’t have before and I just downloaded it and it’s my favorite wallets I always recommend that you use in a hot while they’re on your phone you can just download something like that in 3 seconds and all of a sudden your yoga teacher who takes crypto you know what I mean it in Seoul I’m in this is what I do at my my events like that we have the exist festival.com for South by Southwest and is not an official South by event is a disruptive one because even though I love songs by and I painted a giant mural for South by that’s going to be showing at the Expo Center for Austin Rodeo I love what they’re doing so many ways they’ve also turn down quite a few female speakers for the blockchain panel and I don’t know enough about what they’re doing and I’m sure there’s reasons why everybody dusted the things I do but I think it’s important to set up other events are outside of the you know of the gates of South by in the rules and so on so that’s what we do at our events you know we set up a men’s where where we can bring in a bunch of artists who have never heard of a crypto before or who are interested in it and teach him how to download a wallet and then make their sales are there vending whatever they’re running t-shirts and arts and whatever in crypto in there you got like that’s all it takes so when I get on an Uber or Lyft or Rideshare I asked them if they take crypto and they look at me like I’m crazy then I showed them how to download the wallet and then I took them in crypto and when I go to any any local shop or any restaurant I just automatically always ask do you take pepto and they just look at me confused and then they ask and then I tell them and so it’s just word of mouth and that’s it very small way in which and how we can educate each other just ask about it as if it’s part of your normal life because to me and to you it is you know and so the more people we have on the system to better that easier we’re all going to to evolve within this I don’t know if the answer is exactly the question who want to just be ya be a part of the movement and and adapt and actually alter reality one day at a time just with whatever means you have you know yeah that’s exciting is that you know I’ve had I’ve had a similar kind of weather journey of just wanting to onboard friends and just get people excited about it and really the best way to do it is just to get them started with some in just a few or I’m going to split the mule and give you your you know percentage of Crypt or whatever and and that just gets that gets the party started for for anybody and I see why you’re talking I was imagining they’re being a i y bet there’s got to be some art galleries in the world that just give what is QR codes on every piece so in case you don’t want to buy it you can just tip the artist while you’re there be a white of all the art that I’m so like thrilled to behold in my eyes when I go to an art gallery I would go in there with a budget to tip all the all the artist that I thought really blew my mind you know that’s a whole number and thank you for saying that because I seriously have been wanting to make a video on this for so long thank you for reminding me I want I want all the spray paint artist mural is due to get a QR code stencil and so many times that I’ve been moved by a mural and I yeah you can buy it and you can buy a piece by the artist I’m just freaking said man like $1 a hundred people $1 and then you go home and the artist girl out in the world like how insanely amazing about education if nobody told me that I could do better if I wasn’t a part of this movement I would not have either. So yes I think every Gallery should have a key or code next to their pieces for sure and hopefully work making it easier and easier to have these things be more accessible and just like you said you know split a meal and pay in in crypto just like you would do with venmo or PayPal is very easy and another thing that I think is important to mention is that at first when Bitcoin came out in the early adopters now that Bitcoin was more like a Welsh holding system and still now you know it’s people assume that that you have to have a lot of money to get into crypto but I love the people at and dash dash people talked about this a lot and then cash and Litecoin you don’t fast transaction this is a system that I believe in I’m so tired of using Banks and I’m so tired of using Fiat I don’t want it anymore so I don’t actually hold its on a crypto I’m not at a point where my Abundant Life reflects in my in my wallet but I do get to use crypto every day to do my everyday things and every time a little more and so even if you just want to download a wallet and put 10 bucks into either or 10 bucks into like going or Dash or whatever your favorite currency is just put it there and do nothing with it and check it again in a month and see what happens or just how about you don’t have something like $100 and whenever you go do something if they take crypto you can transfer that and just start really small it’s it’s such a mountain of information that I can be very overwhelming I sign up for a steaming a couple a couple weeks ago and I’ve heard about steemit for for those of you who don’t know it’s a platform like it has all these different channels you can blog writing you can put up videos it’s basically a decent realized turn off all the social media that we use today so right now if you comment on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter or Instagram you don’t get paid for your value and reviewing people’s content but on steemit you basically get rewarded for being an active member of the community you get paid for voting for curating and you can receive a lot of steam power and crypto money basically for producing good content that is useful to people and it cannot be tamed innocence other than by the users and the population and so it’s a really amazing system in everyone’s use it for a long time but I was kind of intimidating by it finally I made an account into two and a half weeks to clear which is insane and and I’ve been getting super overwhelmed with learning how to use it and I just try to continue to watch one video day and do little things at a time and in no time I’ll be an expert you know that’s all it takes so just I hope that people don’t get over Round And if you’re curious just continue learning just a little bit at a time you don’t have to be an expert overnight exactly. I’m glad yes team is amazing and probably going to totally crush it on there just is it doing writing published his stuff it’s been specially in the crypto space is people that it’s amazing some of the mounts you can get off of that and it shows you how big data is really extracting so much value from users of platforms and it’s it’s it’s not going to be long before just because it’s free means that you just give them all your data and sign away the property rights and all that stuff is is going to be replaced by this micropayment ecosystems where people can support each other you know value in the content that they consume and and being really well well supported in and I think it’s going to do the asking to do a lot of amazing some of her friends yesterday we were talking about all them you know thousands of jobs disappearing as robots take over and Singularity and all the stuff and at some point in my life I was really concerned about this you know yet where are aliens off drivers truck drivers going to go when we have also if driving cars do you know all the stuff but the answer is blanching all these people will be doing things in blockchain I will be getting paid well for it and it’ll take less time and I mean from the Tim Ferriss 4-Hour Work Week on and everything. Having high developments off technology and be more efficient with our time does not mean that we is not does not need to be scary you know there’s a lot of stuff within fast Evolution that is that is concerning to me specially how fast were developing and growing and how our security initiatives are not all the party yet and I think we’re getting there so there’s a lot of concern of course but anyting however I don’t think that we all really grasp or we’re starting to now how how much we really don’t have to work 90 hours a week or whatever the ridiculous things we do you know that the whole point of this is that micro payments and micro contributions from everybody involved will react what time for us to to be humans to exist to just let me know this is such an interesting new development in the sort of f have that imprint of a techno dystopia since childhood from all the Sci-Fi and I watched it and then you know you imagine this world where humans are made up sleep by robotic technology and Ai and I’ve been pretty sure that those prospects especially now is drones of coming to the picture and now I really feel like it as of this moment this kind of is really the undeniable presence in the now of both of those dystopic seems coming coming nauseous to come to life but coming into existence but then as you’re saying which is actually so Redemptive for sheep the human soul is that like she was an example something might you might have some thoughts on as far as empowerment but it’s like the the sort of this myth of the scarcity of worthwhile productive labor that can be done with from picking up trash to planting trees to cleaning up toxic waste like through the blockchain micropayments and sort of micro temporary employment contracts that can really enfranchise all the homeless people to get a micro crypto payment without actually showing up and waiting in line to get in the welfare program or get into a you know some sort of job placement program you can just be like you know you show up on the there’s some spill like a whip there’s some kind of cleanup has to happen and people can just mop it and and have day labor crypto payments and there will really never be a gap between meaningful work and and fair pay and there’s plenty of wealth in the crypto world alone to finance stuff like that and even if you know whether it’s through a nonprofit system or through taxes done I mean I’m not going to endorse taxes in general but but you kind of know what I’m saying so how do you feel about that you feel like that’s the direction we’re going to go and there are so many projects that have mind-blowing for example the green miners are looking into mining basically with all green energy from turning trash into clean energy so that things like Bitcoin mining don’t have to take resources as we know them now and there are so many projects in the space for cleaning up the oceans and cleaning up the air and I’m bringing food to the right places and replanting trees and replenishing the soil I mean there if you think of any good initiatives going on in the world for every single one of them there is at least one crypto person who is trying to intercept and connect and there are some barriers you know like the the extreme hippies and I don’t mean that in any negative or positive connotation specifically just outside another word to use like the Crypt on earth and the cryptic Crypt of hippies and all these people like hippies like me back in the day when I when I was in Turkish hippie confused and all of this integrating technology and really scared of it I never imagined in my life that I would be here talking about technology I like but at the same time I see like you said you know how directly this has impacted my life I live a better life I can eat better food because I have my bills taken care of more often because I am connecting projects that feed my soul in that feed my pocket and and it’s just it’s just acknowledge he’s not going anywhere so yes hearing drones zooming around in the air concerns me especially there’s no privacy laws about this and I’m sure I am in plenty of videos just public random videos of people have of course all that is concerning to me but at the same time if I can get drones to massively plant trees and water them creating on cleaning water and stain of away and replenishing the Salt Lake of course I want that also so it’s a fine balance you knowing yeah there’s just there’s just so many opportunities and I’m a very hopeful first person you know and Technologies not going anywhere in the craziest disasters are going on in the world are very real and I’m very aware of my privilege and I’m honored for just being able to be a voice and a part of this movement in any way but if you are truly concerned if you’re a person sitting there and you are really really against technology my best advice to you is to get involved you know what I mean just get involved and make sure that our our moral compasses are still true and that our time is being used efficiently because while I think it’s piercing experiencing abundance is a really healing thing for our communities that happen monkey trained into scar City and fear so I think that having lavish parties in exotic places when they are led by the right Compass when we’re doing no trash Left Behind when we’re also feeding and in helping those communities those are beautiful experiences I think also it’s very easy to fall into the you know greedy egotistical side of things and so we can be people on the sidelines criticizing this movement or we can just Dive Dive Right In whichever way feels comfortable to you and try to help from within you know absolutely yeah amazing so do you want to take can you talk a bit about you know obviously not to be tokenizing but I was really thrilled to know that Amanda B Johnson is the spokes person for Dash and they have a sort of a in the dash consensus system they’re they’re holding their whole their whole technological platform on the basis of it there’s money allocated in there sitting there a crypto economic ecosystems to support people in in roles as delegates and Advocates and Educators and I’m I’m wondering if you have some thoughts on connecting with or have you connected with women in crypto and just having more solidarity and more initiatives that are women lead and women find it and having the the voice and the the wisdom of Sisterhood in the crypto space which is is seriously it’s I don’t know I wouldn’t say this that I understand to be hyper sexist or it’s just a typically gender imbalance in technology for various reasons of course and but this is one of the most inviting and open-minded for thinking space is so I’m just curious if you have thoughts understand that aspect I do and I just want to throw in really quickly that Dash is doing some incredible incredible things to use this new currency in the everyday lives of people and changing a lot I mean I spoke with Danny the other day from the Crypt of showing radio station and just some of the projects he shared with me that they’re doing going to orphanage orphanage is camping outside open and to defend that old homes and rebuilding after after earthquakes all of these weren’t the weather doing in Mexico and helping people from the US and for Mexico to send each other Dash instead of Fiat you know making it super useful super accessible for them and actually turning crypto into into resources are they need whether it’s a new fan for their ceiling or food or whatever and so they are doing a lot of work right on the ground and putting you know when ATMs in crypto ATM there just it is amazing to see this dystopian Society for good and bad is already here as completely I mean crypto is already being used in so many daily activities all the time so much more that we know and I know that documentaries are being created and they will be available to all of us soon and every time more but there is so much more happening than we even inside are aware of you know every time I talk with anybody is it blows my mind all the projects are going on in and that this is the Hood part of it is another one and there are all these telegram groups going around some of them are called crypto women badass women in blockchain you know he’s different name there’s this group on Facebook called crypto queens and I have found some amazing amazing humans are working with the UN and women investing in women and funding each other’s projects and the Miami Conference the North America Miami Conference Bitcoin conference I had this one person run up to me this woman and she said hi sister if you’re a woman here I pretty much want to connect with you and she added me to his telegram group and I stole that from her in the best possible way so every time I’m at any blockchain event I run up to the women and I said Hey sister if you’re a woman in the space I want to connect with you and it’s just so beautiful and so I may be 5 or 10 different groups that are all women in blockchain and art projects in blockchain it is it is really unbelievable I’m actually really excited for the South by Southwest there is a bunch of the crypto Queens are coming down we’ve been talking about doing a documentary about women in crypto and I just hope that I get to interview them 10 minutes with each one in super supportive so it’s been quite interesting and of course there is still competition with in here and there but for the most part I find that women are really supportive of each other I also have been working with swarm City and the storm funds quite a bit I meant Joel from Joel Dietz from swarm and we talked about a bunch our projects and all the stuff happening and you express a lot of interest in supporting both blockchain art projects and women equality so I know swarm is now sitting around the survey to try to make sure that there are as many women as men users and their platform that’s really exciting and also so many surveys about how they want the tokens to be used and so on are hungry to include the community that’s what’s Tim Meadows all about right and that’s what these events are all about so I think I think we’re doing pretty good so far and I see how much more collaboration is going to is going to start happening you know just from from these telegram groups and how excited everybody is and and also how cool is that that we have telegram instead all our messages so that the government can hover information are private conversations it’s just it’s amazing we weave I feel sad about the fact that Facebook and all these social media platform orny or Cuban connection you know I honestly have so many thoughts where I say I don’t care if Facebook knows all my information or if they own all my media I just want to be able to share photos of my friends in Argentina and this is the easiest form so how sad is it that we were okay with all of our privacy and information being exploited and people making money off of us just because we’re so starved for human connection so I’m really excited to be able to do the same things we’ve been doing and use the good parts of Technology like social media in a way that it also filled up our pockets and our Spirits you know that is music to my ears thank you so much I’m so glad that I I mean I just just the fact that your video came up right after cryptos news and we’re in this moment have his conversation this is all such beautiful music to my ears and yeah it’s been I mean in my field in the world of Tantra sacred sexuality sexual healing in just the I think the most important thing in my studies in my experience for healing a planet and really saving the Earth is really being instrumental and being conducive to two women Sisterhood and a healthy positive empowering way and actually creating more financial Independence so that women as mothers can have more freedom and power and actual means to make more independent decisions with their bodies with their with their you know how they how much even breastfeeding I mean the most people don’t know that it’s pretty much understood that about 5 years is a typical pre-industrial young length of time to be breastfeeding infants on demand and imagine the kind of infrastructure changes that have to happen for that to be possible in the modern world but if anything’s going to make it happen it’s going to be the fruit of the work that people like you were doing and that’s as you know might just sort of Public Service Announcement about you know a sort of futuristic crypto feminism you know that I said that I want to contribute to I want to see happen is this more and more working together and in collaboration So yeah thank you for helping with that and Centric energy and learning some teachings of something that it’s pretty recent to me maybe two years and there’s so much to learn and I found so much healing and in all of these intersections of psychedelics meditation 10 trick work and crypto and it’s it’s so bizarre and no way to talk about technology and evolution and money in the same line that we talked about psychedelics and in self-healing love and all of this to no life force of energy but it is all the same thing it’s it’s just growing us a more compassionate and accepting loving human race you know that’s what it’s all about and at the same time that I’m really excited about all of these blockchain as a vehicle for 4 change I am really concerned about Wi-Fi and radiation and you know of course all of these a chemtrail crazy stuff that we put ourselves through so I’m putting out the intention into calling for more people to get involved in to figure it out other ways to connect the other internet in a way that it’s not so destructive for us and so there’s not some natural solutions and then there’s simple things we can do like turning off wi-fi at night when you go to sleep and self-education on this on this topic but I would love to hear more like I said Solutions and privacy are are something that we are now noticing that we need to work on more at the same time that we develop all these amazing systems right we need to wear we’re kind of like it’s floating and all this magical ways and now we need to start creating the containers that will keep us a lines into our missions as well yeah absolutely absolutely awesome well yeah I’m getting about 2 or if you’ll just totally mind blown and totally satiated by learning all this stuff all this great stuff that you’re doing do you feel free now to take some time to promote your efforts and talk about we have coming up in the future will people can be looking out for and and yeah we’ll we’ll call it a good introduction to hopefully we can also keep in touch on going up next and that is the exist festival.com that it’s a beautiful project where we are just connecting more and more people doing similar events and hoping that we can continue to collaborate so if anybody’s interested in anything that we’re doing please reach out there’s room for you to be fully creative in your own way and like I said it’s not about competition the abundance is there and in so many ways so that is South by Southwest Austin and then we have token Fest in San Francisco I will be there as well and then we have an art party in the bay somewhere so all this information will be on social media that is at my new brakes on Twitter or breaks on Instagram and I wanted to mention. So I most recently connected with gel polish and he’s doing art for addicts and he has a lot of projects going on in that world so I’m really excited to get more involved in healing the process of healing ourselves through ART and handling addiction because I believe technology is also an addiction right so being able to create those containers again and also few initiatives for the cleaning up the oceans and ocean token and just so many good projects coming up so anyway that I can that I can help or help you connect with those who will get you to where you want to be the green miners we clean energy any of that please reach out to me I would love to help out cool thank you again so much now Newburgh city has been such a pleasure and yet again thank you for just allowing me to be impulsive and send a message out to you and get you on the show and to know also that your ear integrating some the tantric wisdom in and works into your life it’s so exciting and I agree this is all just one big Kundalini blockchain Bliss Bellini black seamless hashtag that will be in touch in the future and thank you again so much sounds good thank you so much have a beautiful night. 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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 129 I have the Exquisite pleasure of being joined by Charles eisenstein a very well-known prolific author I just finished sacred economics one of his Classics now and it’s really been a powerful resource in the last several years people have been really am using it as enlightening guide to re-engineering their local economies and being exposed to so many different Shadow problems and just things you wouldn’t consider if you didn’t do a deep exploration into these topics and then it’s really helped to support like I said a lot of them knew visioneering and new applications for how we can lift more beautifully on Earth together and I’m really just it’s all seeping into me now I’m really marinating in a lot of a lot of this material and there were brushes with some of the topics that I’m more focused on in this show which is the you know how we can rebuild and revivify the sacred feminine and work with economic and political systems to really facilitate the honorable and charitable Good Deeds of those Among Us who really are called to be healers in a more intimate way and that’s something that has been really distorted and commodified and corrupted and it really negative way but it does have a potential to become a sacred economic environment so that’s what I’m most excited about getting into with you in a bit Charles but please if you would spend as much time as you’d like to kind of fill us in on your personal story how you evolve into becoming this some very scholarly thinker and all these topics and Beyond colony and sexual healing and only have that dramatic or exciting a background really but I think what’s PS3 line for me got to Childhood is this abiding sense that there’s deep wrongness in the world that has been presented to me as normal go the story of the self the story of Life the story that tells us how to be human How To Be A Man Out of You women what a successful life books like what the nature of reality is what is what is Rio and normal like it just never seemed normal to me never seemed acceptable and it was I think a lot of children has this kind of almost like this deep loneliness and feeling of betrayal at having been cast into not quite the right world but it it doesn’t take clear form know maybe you’re sitting in the classroom filling out worksheets and beautiful day outside and is party that’s like I’m not supposed to be confined here doing this meaningless trivial work you know that it’s supposed to be more than this so you know I was no different than a lot of other children but I was fortunate enough to have that inner knowing that like I say that a more beautiful world is possible confirmed and then the internet that this isn’t right story isn’t right I had that confirmed through my father’s political influence he was somewhat radical and petitfee commercials and rail against the corporations and you know I read I read books like Silent Spring and 1984 and the people’s History of the United States and became confirmed in my rejection and Rebellion so I still didn’t know what was the origin of the wrongness but that became a lifelong Quest really that eventually led me to write the ascent of humanity which not to trivialize thesis but basically it says that all of the crisis of our civilization Springs from a story that we are telling ourselves mythology that runs our civilization that you could call separation that holds us as separate individuals in a world of other that holds Humanity separate from nature that elevates the control of the other the domination of all things the domination of the body the rising above nature into the realm of technology and spirit Center etc etc the conquest of The Flash all of these play out in different ways as the dissolution the dissolution of community the ruination of May are the oppression of one group to another group all of these are different ways that separation plays out so that’s that’s what got me this it seized me and wouldn’t let go and then you know coming then to a place where I trace the origins of Separation back and I guess I’m not really talking so much about my personal history anymore but Inseparable taking the roots of Separation see how deep they go brought me to a place where I saw the entire journey of Separation as part of a much larger process in which we can come back in to hold us and I guess to bring it back to the personal level that has echoed through my own life as I’ve sought to heal from the internalized story of Separation the wounds of Separation that visit anybody who’s grown up in a modern culture and so that’s what’s so it’s not only am not just like necessarily only a scholar reading books about it but I explore these things in my own life to some extent in some areas with more radicalism an edginess than others but yeah and I am so anyway that’s something of a background of humanity received and where where did it find audiences send in. I know I guess I could say couple things having completed it that I really appreciate that you drive from the work of John zerzan he’s actually a personal friend of mine from back in the day and he was one of the first influences on me to really help fill out the critique of various deep critiques of technology and yes and but then I also did feel that sense of the improper indictment of this original sin of symbolic thought and language and that you could really arbitrarily take that to bipedalism or in in your work you he talked about how it could be you know even a deeper kind of Poker jab a little bit to see if they could be if you could really make that argument for any any part of that process of Separation but there’s so many valuable insights and critiques that he has brought to the world and so I just want to say thank you for presiding him of technology and civilization that is like seriously sit right with me because it basically names this journey as a gigantic mistake and development of Beauty has come from language from the cracks of the human hand and mind and I believe that these gifts that humans have are here for a reason that nature doesn’t make mistakes that doesn’t species that is just think that we are nature’s big mistake is just as much a kind of human exceptionalism as to think that we are here to be the Lords and masters of nature so I think it is that we are a species still in adolescence where we are playing with the gifts of hand in mind but we haven’t turned them yet tour their true purpose as a mass like maybe maybe indigenous cultures did that and then kind of prefigured the mass organism that we are wishing to become but as a civilization we have not yet discovered it correct application of our gifts contributing member of the tribe listen to become full participants in the tribe of all life on Earth and not mature species and I think we’re going through that initiation right now through the converging crises that the story of Separation has generated inconceivably mysterious fast process and and to just like dismiss it all as a gigantic mistake like that’s a beauty and complexity of what humans have created literature and all of Technology a symphony orchestra of the Grand Central Station you know our Collective will and intention toward Beauty tord tordid contributing to the evolution of Life as a totality we would still have technology but it would be motivated very different so that’s like anyway that yeah that’s we could go there or we could go somewhere else kind of builds up to where now we’re getting into this we have this Burning since almost all the time that most of the people that I interact with even in the most extreme radical shamanic communities or new age or permaculture even and the have a sort of a blind maybe techno optimism or just a lack of really feeling that that chunk of critique that that we both appreciate in value and then so there’s this when that’s there there’s a real holness every I really feel the clicking sensitive of wholeness has the wisdom that is a treachery here and we have to I think permaculture really does well to to just understand that progress is inevitable but if you just convert the variables of what you’re building with the materials of what you’re playing with in the sandbox of reality then you can actually be a net-positive on ecology and you can be producing more life and you destroy and that’s really so do you want to just kind of give a overview of sacred economics is sort of him or is it kind of would you say more zoomed in two solutions after a sense of humanity from transitioning to that by saying that need a problem isn’t technology per se but how we apply it and what we think it’s useful for you to talk about technology they are referring to certain kinds of technology that are based on quantification and that aim to exercise very precise control on material reality but there are other modes of technology that aren’t about multiplication and control. My debt that are applicable or useful for things that conventional technology is it and I’m talking about Technologies of the earth of human human energetic field of the non-quantifiable Realms that you might call spiritual like these have gotten valued and even in the story of Separation dismiss is not even being real cuz he can’t measure its not real but I know that your audience is a lot of people who are working with these Technologies especially for the purposes of healing and the development of Consciousness and when you are working with something that is fundamentally unmeasurable or difficult to quantify and it becomes therefore difficult to turn into a commodity and to fix a price for it because money is a form of measure and it works well for the things that can be standardized and Quantified like Commodities so if you’re dealing with something that is qualitative and I will say maybe sacred then it’s really hard to put a price on it doesn’t fit into the economic system that comes along with the rest of the story of Separation that turns the world into an object really that’s one of the main manifestations of Separation to turning up the world into the object and ultimately turning other living beings and objects turn women into objects and ultimately turning men into objects to the conversion of human beings into we could be a sex object consumer taxpayer someone you Market to like that is what economy of separation almost forces us into so if you are doing something that is not about converting nature or relationship into a quantifiable product if you were doing something that is sacred to you it’s going to be difficult to fit into the existing economic Matrix and so one of the motivations behind the book sacred economics is basically what what do we do about that or what do we do on a personal level Academy navigate living in a monetized system where it’s all about the money while doing something at sacred to us and then the second question is how do we change the system what might a system look like that no longer forces us to make these compromises or forces us to choose between doing what we love and doing what it takes to survive this is anyone doing sacred work not not everybody but almost everybody doing sacred work that is motivated by Shilling which is the opposite of converting the world into money is going to run into this problem almost everybody so one thing that comes up as a writer I’m doing this out of a desire to serve the unfolding of the dream of the Earth so should I do whether I’m writing or in a speaking working with people in groups or whatever it’s sacred to me and that means that it’s just seems ridiculous to put a price on it because any price is simultaneously too much and too little I don’t want to be you can’t have this amount of money for any amount is too much but on the other hand any amount has to Google because it’s reducing something infinite to something finally it’s saying it’s only worth whatever amount of money and for me is infinitely precious and sacred and it’s almost an insult to put a price on it and and so one way that I navigate that is to do as much as possible through gift which is welcoming of return gifts but doesn’t put a price on it so if you come to my retreat then you know it’ll be surprised what feels right to you what’s a lined with your sense of equity your sense of rightness your financial means your sense of value in gratitude like what feels call shawana in contacts in an economic context that has programmed us always be looking out for the best deal always watching out to be to not be taken advantage of us in competition and distrust with each other is no easy formula to overcome those circumstances I totally agree and thank you for doing this work and also leading by example and living the the dream and being the change you want to see in the world that’s really inspiring and I guess I’ll just say that I’m probably more than I even have known but just the ambience of stirring of alternative options that you’ve been helping to be a part of fan in the last few years as it’s kind of thumb percolated through alternative communities in some but I guess some of the the alternative economic local systems have been in place for quite a while but they I guess it been since December group popularized or at least brought into more of the perception of a wider audience thinks that you’re working and I say now I’m operating on it or Showtime Banking and then even times where if a client is doing well financially then I will honor honor you no honor System expect to tell contribute to me financially if I’m more need financially but then if there’s do you know bottleneck on either side then we can just sort of dynamically reorient to to what’s available based on cycles of abundance that are you know sometimes unpredictable bit with enough of that going on you can kind of offset things and not have one-size-fits-all standardized by now or forever be left out you know fear of missing out marketing strategies and all these things that kind of like you said would limit access so I think it’s just a little bit of creativity and open heartedness can go a long way and I’ve seen wonders achieved and it’s really that pay it forward gift economy thing where you just don’t know how karmic banking or karmic capital is going to compound in a good way if you do things right so I’m love I’m a Believer and all that so yeah I went went there was a specifically one point where I I know I know that you brushed against the the sexual Arts as a form of them forever more sacred industry so now I’m transitioning into this the world’s oldest profession as its assets often called so we have this kiss in the country Community there is sort of a myth of the noble prostitute kind of think it’s interesting because a lot of us hold in our imagination that there was this the sort of golden age of the temple priests wear all those the men were coming and humility and it was to just bow down to their Muse and maybe they might get some action if they were really charming and made some offerings to the temple that were just sort of the best that they could provide based on their you know whether they’re Warrior or farmer or whatever it is that they was like a the public library is of sexual encounters and experience and it was actually something where if you were in a marriage and you were sort of from sub-standard and the quality of your performance than you will be you will be prompted by your your beloved to go and get some training with the Temple priestesses and so it sounds like the perfect world everybody wins and the people who were born to serve in that way they’re really facilitated and you know there’s more scholarship I say needs to be done to kind of confirm and really fill out of that that dream or that fantasy of the past that I believe there are found some documentation that I really supports that and then a lot of people now or through the Festival movement and and a lot of different sort of time sheikah institutes in schools and training centers and Retreats really anchoring in at least the vision of that which it sounds beautiful to me and I I really hope that it wasn’t just corrupt Kings and Warlords who were basically running big institutionalize brought those cuz they’re set as the patriarchy takes over you know it really took some of these more village-level shamanic service networks and then kind of built-in high-level Monumental architecture around it and it was a you know Caligula I think was the first one to actually officially state recognized prostitution with registration so they had their thirst names for effectively on the books you know with the treasurer’s and what not and it was Pompeii was a big think so I am aware of some of the historical narratives about the Temple of the Sacred priestesses the sacred prostitutes the goddess temples and so forth and for me the question actually isn’t necessarily is that factually correct or not but what future does it serve to hold those nervous because these histories can also be like kind of subconsciously drawing from a potential future that actually exists maybe outside of linear time but that that exists in some archetypal ROM and then then it’s like history maybe it was a world of art or something running a gigantic prostitution thing but but in that there was also a whisper of a sacred possibility that draws from a translinear archetype that can also be reached through linear time if we oriented toward that and allow it to be our compass point and take in its reality and then buy it. We can create this future that is projecting as members in the past in the future friends are going to be wants to construct The Narrative that serves what does society wants to become and you’re not so sure of course many people today who are also tapping into that archetype and doing this but also can come came to mind it text Omar current perspective we assumed we take for granted things that are actually just the artifact of our story in our system and one of those is the scarcity of sex so you had to take for granted that yeah the men and they’re going to love to go to the to the temples because then you’re going to get a matriarchal society where women were not own and not sexually sequestered into marriages but we are sexually free and in their societies sex might not work in a scarce commodity so the motivation of men wouldn’t be driven by this omnipresent insecurity in scarcity where my woman is just for me I won’t share her because less for me and another guy might come and take her away so I’m in competition with everybody else and how I’m now I get to go to the temple may not have been the circumstances that may have been much more of what you said like to pleasure to the Gateway. The woman can provide to these Transcendent or imminent Realms of unity Consciousness ecstatic Union through pleasure and and I need training in this you know and there’s these experts that can help me become a a d Define Erotic Impulse to experience Unity if you take that as a context whether it’s past or future that’s a whole different ball game and it’s no longer about you know about men exploiting women and and it’s kind of illicit you know I’m getting some on the side I got to pay for it because women have the goods scarcity and it’s called pussy and they’re going to give it to me if I give him enough money or after some other compensation like Economic Security or at least a phone call the next morning or whatever is not reality story yeah yeah yeah just as you speaking and all of these images are coming together and just imagining the the weary worn-down surf you don’t under the warrior and all of the different when you think about that that’s just the Metropolitan pantheistic cross cultural environment of the time of Caligula and just all of these people wear sexual hospitality is commodified like everything else because everybody is in his is part of the cow is just part of Commerce and there’s no organic real space everything when everything’s made it out in that in that way then it’s just inevitable just like I said I could turn style everything is is metered out so what from the end of thank you so much for bringing in that very empowering and liberating kind of grand scheme of things scope of not having to prove that it was the the truth of the past but it really is what were we were you going for in also think about how the modern pop stars the pinks and Lady Gaga’s they’re actually embodying the diva would literally more than they probably even know but they’re Wheeling magical power and they have the power to transform every one’s Consciousness really we’re all wrapped around the fingers of these these Superstars and it’s just what what color of magic perhaps are they teaching a steep to practice but what do you feel are some just in your survey of some of the Practical things on the ground I guess are you observing or witnessing Transformations any sectors thanks to some of your work or at least some of the trends that you’re you’re studying in your work well it’s hard to say what it is because of my work and what isn’t because stop by right is part of a Aveo upwelling Consciousness that would be happening whether or not I was writing about it so did I see something that did it just naturally occurring to people that wow what I’m doing doesn’t fit into the economic system and I’ve got to try something else so I do see people trying something else and very often not succeeding according to any any rational metric because this is New Territory for us in the dominant culture and we don’t really have a map we don’t have a recipe for how to do show people try all kinds of stuff you know trades or sliding scales where you choose the price or try to find you no sponsorship I got them to put a lot of explaining myself and and then when forming communities around this work where within the community money isn’t used a we support each other and take care of each other in all of the different ways that are available to us with our diversity of gifts in the community I’m really at what we’re watching said one way to look at it is get the most important practices to rebuild community but we don’t even necessarily know what that is but we all have a we all I’m being very generalized here but I often hear people articulate a yearning for Community to undo the narrow containers of the separate self and let in more people not just your lover not just your family you know not just your blood relatives but open it up a bit more to the circle of the gift operate on a on a gift economy you don’t usually charge your wife for doing the dishes or something like that in traditional settings and circle of gift was a lot bigger and therefore the circle of self was a lot bigger because if you are in a gift relationship with people and their well-being is your well-being and their suffering is your suffering even in Practical terms cuz they’ll have less to give they won’t be able to contribute to your well-being everybody is living a lifestyle we are contributing to each other’s well-being so to rebuild that is Canada meta-level of so much of the more surface layer work that word that we are attracted to do it and I think you know sexual healing and sexual expression is definitely part of that it doesn’t want to be reduced to something that you pay for it once I don’t want to trivialize the the necessity for establishing certain kinds of boundaries I don’t know I guess I’m have questions about that to like because love naturally blossoms when you’re really in it with somebody and is that what we want to put a boundary across so I know that that’s gets to be very complicated issue but ultimately it this this movement is about reuniting coming together again and dissolving not once but dissolving as appropriate and as called as called from us and through US dissolving the barriers of Separation beautiful will if you don’t mind if you don’t mind doing a little bit of faith journeying into a bit of the Shadow which would be the opposite of sacred economics and sort of them without dwelling too too deeply on it if if you don’t mind I don’t want to do the splits I feel like to to put even more context and shed more light it’s it’s good to look at some of the shadow of of the the adult industry and and the the effects of not having the village based sort of them or at least that the ethics of group values going on in circulating gift economy are you okay with it a little bit of that okay so something that that I feel as a selling point for lack of a better word is V the worst way to put it but a selling point for a talking point rather than maybe four people who were still very conservative around these these issues in these topics and they don’t believe that premarital or extramarital contact of any kind including I contact this is acceptable it’s actually a deadly sin when I in in conversation with people that level of conservatism I go right to some of the news headlines and say remember that guy Elliot Rodger I believe his name was and he was a young college student who had been who was a virgin and he decided to go on a kill crazy Rampage at the University California Santa Barbara campus I believe is what it was and and he just in a car he is premeditated he put out a YouTube video world like a hundred plus page Manifesto and it was this extremely if you will demonic possessed but very astute and very well-thought-out of course it’s all in the car pics of a narcissist with someone who had become a sociopathic narcissist but he had some insights to share with Humanity which cannot be overlooked and only by marginalizing him as a psychopath do we get to not take seriously what he was expressing which was this murderous sexual frustration that would have had in a more perfect world a world with goddess temples where initiation rites occurred for young people on this is something they’re doing and tomorrow which we can talk about as sort of a template for some solutions but it begs the question that if this young man had had sacred economic opportunities he was rich he was the son of a movie somebody in the film industry and in head just had a movie to come out and what is like there’s no reason for this kid driving around kid a young man he’s driving around this super fancy car and he had all the privilege in the world who is a fine-looking young man not to that should be a Criterion by any means to judge someone sexual access but he was still is I guess socially awkward he wasn’t able to connect enough to get himself quote lay don’t know if that was his word but that’s how you know his locker room but he’s probably would have thought about it but just you know it’s a long story short the the need it’s not just hippies that want to be polyamorous that can’t get disciplined enough to sit down at a day job that are trying to talk about building goddess temples you know it’s like the families of the slain in that Massacre should have been the ones bailing out Tracy Elise who ran the Phoenix goddess Temple donation-based Sexual Healing services in Arizona when she was brought down by operation goddess Temple a six-month undercover investigation where the undercover cops at come in there and cowboy boots and say hey I want to put my cock in your vagina and try to entrap them you know that’s what we’re doing to limit the healing potential of these goddesses and then on the other the shadow of a spectrum is all the Predators all the child sexual abusers all the rapists who would have been really massaged into Divinity by these sex workers who were busted for conspiracy if they give each other tips on food to avoid that level of breaking them legally disallowing women who are streetwalkers to even include in any way for their own safety it becomes double felony charges for you know having any communication with each other so that’s just what in rages me a time deep in the trenches of this movement in an industry and I just wondered what your thoughts are on you know the grotesque side effect of commodification and desecrated economic and if you have any leverage points or thoughts I’m just waking people up by putting some of these headlines in her face why are people shooting each other school shootings all the stuff is it a side-by-side effective are now the persecution of the Sacred it’s happens in every Realm end and I think that this idea that you’re playing with that frustrated Sexual Energy gets channeled into violence is I think it’s undeniable and not relating with women and holding their they’re holding it holding it holding a holding it’s like trying to hold a pressure cooker and an energy is building up in the Siemens building out and then it like it pops out somewhere and steam pops out somewhere else and if you hold it out if you hold it successfully enough in one explodes that’s see that’s what happens when you try to suppress infinite force anti-terrorism infinit force it comes out one way or another and and you mustn’t Tamara like they have a whole political philosophy there that basically says that war and violence comes through frustrated sexuality and they they they use the metaphor of rain and soil and end like that young energy of the rain if there’s not receptive soil soak it up and it becomes a flood it becomes destructive and so how do you create for tile receptive soil well as to be willing soil I have to have ecosystem and we don’t have that we have a Barren landscape that has been damaged repeatedly and it’s you know these men and women in our society it’s going to take I think a long time Generations after generations of healing Chipman do the trauma that is normal the acute trauma I mean something I don’t know what is a third of all children suffer abuse in. Just just go away so we have to understand that the men and women who are seeking Sexual Healing are coming from play some great trauma and we’re going to have I don’t know how to do it either I don’t know how it how to accommodate all that and especially in a system that is in a way rightly threatened by the prospect of sexual Liberation and sexual healing and I say why they threatened in the sense that it would mean the end of society as we know it would mean the end of status quote with the status quo with mean the end of the war machine they mean the end of the crashing of one class by another Nation Under the most fundamental template for dehumanization that is thousands of years older than racism is is misogyny is patriarchy is the immunization of women that’s the template and then gets applied in the form of racism that gets applied in the form of xenophobia are all kinds of bigotry but that’s where it began yeah just yeah well well I’ve got chills thank you so much I’m really this is exactly the the depths of promotion I wanted to achieve with this conversation and and I’m glad that you brought it into Focus around the turn patriarchy and I’m not at all hesitant to use that word because I studied anthropology and archaeology of it and I kind of feel like in that pure anarcho-primitivism two ends not not that everyone not to project onto you or anyone else but it’s that understanding that there was a a sleight of hand and a muscular maneuver to crush the feminine when it came to Agriculture and that in most cases it was a male-dominated shift that happened so it’s easy to know some people want to kind of say hey let’s not you know make binaries and let’s not do you know indict the masculine Maslow needs healing too and I feel that I agree with that and some people would say it’s a partnership vs. Dominator. I will need to look at and that is true as well but I also think that you need to the men have some tears to shed to to kitchen and to pay some some debts I believe to the to the earth into the feminine so what better way than to put down the swords in the axes and start to pick up shovels and start planting the Garden of Eden if only the Bible had that is the last line and let’s replant the Garden of Eden cuz it wants us to return I don’t think there’s a reason to be ashamed of ourselves as men men suffer as much maybe in patriarchy as women do it doesn’t it’s not good for the men either unless you think that that constant insecurity and competition and cut off from motion and and distance from the feminine Wellspring of life in divinity’s a good thing it’s it’s Petrakis terrible from them even get less sex in picture I could weigh less and patriarchy as a system in as an internalized system is because I want to live a good life I want to be happy want to be free I don’t want to be always insecure that I’m going to become a loser when my status object falls in love with somebody else all right are you what what level of adventurist awareness do you have of the bonobo or bondable studies that have kind of been you know I’m never had sex at dawn and stuff okay. Yeah that’s that’s give us a glimpse into its one lens on on human nature and then you can look at egalitarian primates for another glimpse of human nature and and look at the animal world I think there are many many possibilities but you feeling too much to genetics and nature as some justifications or as prescriptions for what Society should look like because how are genes and expression of our genes can change according to the social atmosphere so we’re not even even though I don’t like the conclusions that are drawn from a no-go studies I’m a little weary of putting too much on to that and advocating our sovereignty as be choosers of the kind of society we want to live in the kind of world you want to live in Ray has probably more helpful to see it just like the other ethnographies insects it down just as a counter reference point to as possible or what what are some things about him missing out on 7th at one of the things that I feel is most destructive about studies the bonobo is so we have this fear of matriarchy this phobia that it would look like a mirror image of just the tyrants the Amazons are some some kind of distorted fantasy of authoritarian matriarchy but what what is demonstrated so beautifully in their societies pretty much universally is his lack of rape lack of violence violence or conflict being preempted by sexual activity in that there’s this it seems like they’re almost like the the female Sisterhood bonds are so well-formed that they end up sort of making little bonsai trees out of the male egos so that their best Captain service and if they going to stay out of this probably oversimplifying but it’s it’s a if the power dynamics are are such that it behooves a man to want to mail to go out and do something of service be entertaining go get some bananas bring them back and make an offering without sex spectations maybe you’ll get lucky and it all goes to sort of say that it if we did with permaculture create such an abundant ecology to live within then that that scarcity wood would dissolve in and went to the mountains and then we could just share freely and there would be a bit of healthy competition but it would bring out the best in people and they would cooperate to get group favors that guess you could say well yeah definitely make sure he is not patriarchy with women instead of men in the power positions it looks very different and I don’t really even think we know what it would look like what condition to the structure not the content of patriarchy which has many options of power but the structure on the patriarchy dominating no you have a religion that we we don’t have the conceptual vocabulary or the exponential vocabulary to even know what make sure he would look like and we can draw maybe though from indigenous cultures that still have matriarchal elements to them or some of my you can be fully mature rare one of my friends is speaks really only about this she’s a woman and she kind of paints a picture of like the men yeah they’re really valued for male qualities that are you know in some within 2 to a greater or lesser extent but that are these male qualities of of linearity rationality okay let’s get this thing done you know that’s what’s let’s focus on the task and the goal that kind of stuff like in a Mich Ronco cultural traits are valued but it’s understood that men need help to know what to apply those things to you that the men rely on so that they know where to exercise their masculine mini your creative abilities and when that gets disconnected from the feminine Source all kinds of hack and shoes and those qualities get you no turns toward you know hedge fund and and things that are disconnected with a starting life so make sure I might be something where where the what is that where did where there are structures to constantly aground the human capacities of of manipulation of of amazing design onto the world check the ground those in the service all life yeah I’m kind of looking forward to it but something like that you know what it would look like it’s so foreign to what Society is right now but for me to definitely would include no fear of of Economic Security is there taking care of my community we don’t have we live in a world today of artificial scarcity there’s already even without Global permaculture system there’s already more food is wasted every day then would take to feed all the world to see artificial scarcity of of everything that we have artificial scarcity of beauty New York City and I got to be almost all the buildings are ugly but what after five thousand years can we do better than that artificial scarcity of of play artificial scarcity of intimacy of love sex. The parts you know why are so many people so hungry for for intimacy but you’re sorry I made a list once upon a time I have to add one thing which is the who choose horrible conspiracy idea was it to let to make one seater bathtubs I mean isn’t that the Cry of separation LOL I have the potential to live in such a beautiful world and it’s just really a shift in perception away absolutely well we’re about an hour here so I just want to say that again this really melted my heart and and stimulated my mind and this is really validating I said I could say system it’s a gift that you’ve been on the show and you’ve been able to let me have air out some Rants and get a little bit of a sounding board and feedback in and just validation and I believe this will be hopefully something that can steer or stear folks towards your work and towards this greater what you’re pointing towards your your kind of you know in a way a messenger of really guiding people into a lifestyle of of deconstructing these false paradigms that we’re stuck in and it really are very elegantly and beautifully transcended with a little bit of creativity in a little bit just the awareness that these other possibilities are really really everywhere we can be drawn from the past or the future so you know what that said I just want to last thing I want to say is that something Tracy at least in part it on me before she was tried and then went to prison is that to you know this bit of wisdom that when the women are happy the men will get more sex and so if we can figure that out and then listening I think it’ll it’ll all just quickly and easily slip into a more beautiful economic reality around that that notion so that’s my final thought and if you want to share any final thoughts and certainly how people can access all of your great works and upcoming events and all that good stuff I’m just jealous of feeling grateful for the conversation and or the work that you’re doing that is really important and not very celebrated so thank you for doing that and as for my working self hello thank you to my website. So is it is just Charles eisenstein. Calm cool and then and then please definitely anyone listening SoundCloud is the great repository for your work so you can just digest all the great works and beautiful voices and also audible is with us on your videos short films call when you have any plans or anything exciting coming up people should be staying tuned for pretty much nothing comes up you know I don’t really have much schedule for 2018 until maybe the book comes out in September and then I’ll be here probably speaking more are you able to to give us any of the adjust of what two subjects are working on Earth just hard to talk about it because if I say what it’s about you think I know it but it’s what I’m saying and it’s so different from what what is being said that it’s on climate change a very good title loans I’m not sure I want to see the title yet but it’s it’s basically it’s a very very different narrative cool well I can’t wait yeah I’m sure it’s going to be awesome cool well then I guess we will just call it a show for now and hopefully yes anytime we can resume and then also just to kind of kick it off for a maybe a follow-up eventually is it a we definitely got deep into the into this topic this time around but the cryptocurrency and distributed Ledger technology blockchain technology and how that is really pushing out some of the prophetic that you shared about peer-to-peer open source technology development as an expression of gift economies sacred economics and all that would be cool to Circle back to that at some point in the future and then also you have so wouldn’t know I’ll be keeping an eye out for your book and maybe we can get you on around that time when you’re doing the marketing for that okay sounds good cool alright Charles thank you again so much have a great rest of your day I take care www.entrepreneur.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is the seeming and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been a tantra Punk. 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In this episode I’m joined by Destin Gerek for a discussion about the future of sacred masculinity and conscious erotic media. He shares an overview of his background and path to become a tantric sexual healer and erotic empowerment coach, then offers a beautiful and powerful intentional meditation. We end by opening an ongoing discussion about sexual health best practices and bringing tantric ethics and techniques to the adult entertainment industry.
Destin Gerek is a transformational empowerment coach who specializes in helping you awaken your sexual energy, while harnessing this newfound power to passionately manifest your biggest visions, and create the life of your dreams. A globally recognized thought leader in the realms of sexuality, consciousness, and personal transformation. Destin has been working in the field of human sexuality for over 17 years.
In 2004, Destin experienced a massive spiritual reawakening while hitchhiking through southern Mexico. Since that time, Destin has made it his life’s purpose to help catalyze an elevation in global sexual consciousness.
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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 53 I’m going to be interviewing one of my heroes in the Tundra fuel Destin Garrick and he’s going to give us a little bit of safe intro and tell us a bit about his background and then we’re going to talk about best practices for being part of the new masculine sacred masculine Paradigm so Destin thank you for being on the show and then Karen can I make you for having me at as request why don’t we all just take a moment to drop in together who knows what you were doing before you hit play on this podcast but just invite you to take a moment to stock everything else at the moment to close your eyes and just bring your attention Within feel the Earth beneath you gravity drawing you down towards the Earth weather at supporting bring your attention to those subtle Sensations like the feeling of your clothes on your body and how as you breathe your clothing shifts around your body and as you do that allowing your breath simply slow down and bacon allow each breath to get slower in each breath to get deeper than the one before. To the point where these could even be the slowest breaths on the deepest breaths that you’ve ever taken in your entire life and you may notice that with each of your exhalations your body becomes a little bit more relaxed a little bit more calm which of these equations your mind becomes a little more quiet a little more Style there’s nothing to do and nowhere to go slowing down and open to receive or we have to offer you if you’re able to and buy you to stay with your breath throughout this podcast how’s your ready where we going from here thanks so much that’s enough Exquisite I feel great and I am ready to receive your story a bit your pathway leading up to becoming a I thought leader and trainer in the new sacred masculine men’s movement I’m going to need some of your help here cuz my path has been very long and winding into our time here used on that each time I share my story comes up differently and they’re all true well let me see if I can let me see how much of your story I remember then you can track me how about that at the end of it all right so you are a you were traveling you were traveling at think in the in the south southern hemisphere and you are kind of finding yourself and you were in a relationship that was a relationship that you were not fully empowered in and something kind of snapped and you started to get heavily into empowerment through Contra sacred sexuality and then you’ve developed erotic Rockstar archetype two step two more empowered role and then you sort of worked with that for a while I became that to various degrees and then evolved more into you can say less will just be more of service to training men to become well I guess a little more grounded than a rockstar and now you only Robbins of Tantra and it’s not a bad summation to fill in some of those details okay so in 2004 after what I’m just going to refer to as hitting rock bottom in my life I’m having a psychological and emotional breakdown I went hitchhiking through southern Mexico with a backpack on my back and like no money to my name and figuring out how he’s going to get the next meal and how is going to get so wherever I was going next and as much as I thought that I’d hit rock bottom actually further bottomed out during this job and then there was a point where I just gave up I just gave up I wouldn’t have said that I was surrendering to the Divine or God or anything at the time because I didn’t believe in such things I just all I knew anymore was I didn’t know anyting and that was a very powerful moment because before then I swear I think I thought I knew everything I had it all figured out and there’s so much I was clinging to and I struggling with the when I Let Go when I gave up it just opened up the space and like a light switch being turned on suddenly everything check 18.2 a single day where weather moments who I was before I knew I was after we’re completely different or suddenly every person I was meeting every conversation I was having seems designed for this shift in my Consciousness and awareness to take place now I’m at a point 12 years later we’re at the Spaniards like that happens to me all the time but by the time it was it was brand new experience it was completely off life-altering and I relate to it as my Spiritual Awakening and and it before then my life was on this downward spiral every year altimate Leaf find myself feeling more disempowered ever since it’s been an upward spiral it. The say that every moment has been absolutely amazing that was certainly not my life has had many struggles and challenges in the time since many of the announcer if you look at it over time for each year is just just keeps getting better. Was it just keeps getting better at through every painting hardships still just getting better my connection to my own self my own spirituality my own power my own possibility my own impact on an influence on the world all this just keeps expanding as I have septeber and deeper into living my purpose thanks so do you do you want to talk a bit about the erotic Rockstar for people who haven’t figured that on this podcast with you I would I probably would not be here if it wasn’t for you and your promotion of that that archetype to tell you the truth it really Set Me In Motion I had what I I refer to as about 6 and 1/2 year erotic Rockstar journey and it’s not to say that he has completely wiped out for my life today but definitely two different chapter in my life and I spent my late teens to late twenties completely disconnected from my masculine I had developed a distrust of other men and a and with that I distrust of of my own masculine rooted in my high school sweetheart being raped on her 15th birthday right before we met and then us getting together for about three years and just feeling the impact of a trait throughout our entire relationship and then through whatever opened inside of me during that I became the go-to person for women that seem to share about their experiences and so I just being inundated with women sharing about their experiences to Imola call non-consensual sexual experiences I just developed a deep distrust of man and the masculine and I ended up spending the night at that decade really with no male friends certainly no hetero male friends everybody in my life for women wear their girlfriends or friends or roommates are bosses they are all women and I got very in touch with my fat with my inner feminine which carry many blessings by by the time I was in my late twenties I also realized something was horribly out of balance I was in a relationship with a woman that way I love dearly but I put her on a pedestal way above me I didn’t understand why she would even be with somebody like me and and guess what the relationship wasn’t working and simultaneously I had such a deep feeling inside of me that I had something but I wasn’t really do much of anything and I just got this sense of these two things were interconnected and ultimately I I I realize there’s something going on regarding my masculine feminine balance and I set out to make 2007 the year that I actively explored my messy alinity and what it means to me to be a man in the world and so I I had no idea when I said out on that Journey that it was going to be so powerfully transformative on all levels and that who I who I was was was going to just practically overnight in new me before and who I see now still can’t stop saying to me oh my God I did you like it you change so much the transformation was so potent that it ended become the foundation of the work that I do in the world and where I can reverse-engineer something that I did and the process that created and have improved people do it more effectively so anyway I it was then that the erratic rock star was born playing with this question of this idea of so what what is my what is my ideal of like masculine expression in the world now is already doing what you say is, but very academic like my sex Pizza I thought I knew the sexuality had something to do with it but I also got the sense that was to be expressed differently than how I was previously expressing it and she can you how do I say this so I start playing with the creation of an archetype I was limited by my ideas of who I was and who I wasn’t what I’m capable of what I’m what I’m not capable of but he has archetype there’s no limitation there he’s a figment of my imagination could be anything and you started writing about it a lot dreaming about it thinking about talking about it and it’s flushing out to this imaginary creature Cisco Burning Man Community where it’s very normal to kind of like play with character and costume and Craig costumes and things like that so DJ culture where is Sea Hunt as well as of 2007 which is filtering the rising and peaking of the whole pick up industry so while I was coming out of the Township community I was seeing this guy is happening and I was really confused cuz I was like I’ve been part of this time for a year already and pure suddenly this things happening in his dwarf the impact that we’re having a community where is most people don’t seem to be have that much of an interest in what’s going on at pick up Community has ballooned so rapidly all over the world what the fuck is going on especially when I look at it and I find so much of it so questionable so much of it can flying in the face of my ethics and so part of it for me as well was I wanted to prove whether to the world or to myself that it was possible to be spiritually oriented Heart Center. And still what will call extremely successful with the ladies and so all of these different flavors were put into this archetype that I was creating at as well as I just everything he was the opposite of everything so where is I may have been more reserves and certain spaces he was fully expressed the center of attention nothing yet his sexuality was not oppressor held back in anyway he was in full expression but it’s the one to make sure that wasn’t a light at that grasping needy through his body and end the out of his fights did it part of an expression of his being
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Com and our journey together will begin welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 36 I’m here with Tracy at least and we’re going to be talking all about the Phoenix goddess Temple and the first off I just want to say that this case is near and dear to my heart and since I heard about it a few years ago I felt it it definitely was going to be sort of like a Roe v Wade for sacred sexuality and it’s something that I believe everyone who is involved in the sacred sexuality movement shouldn’t have a good clear understanding of The Facts of the case from Tracy here and his interview and also say that if you listen to any of my previous podcast and you know anything about my personal life story it’ll it’ll make a lot of sense why I care so much and I’ll just put it out there that I feel that we are on the cusp of a paradigm shift for we understand that the natural Spiritual Authority of the Priestess class that should be honored and revered no matter what religious background you have most importantly because of the fact that we’re in a world filled with rapists and child sexual abusers who would do much better to have access sexual access to Healing goddesses and gods who are going to create a line of defense now so that the energy that’s stirring inside of them but doesn’t have a healthy and safe expression with other consenting people they can go and receive a trance station of the energy into something positive in purified and prevent the the heinous crimes that I was victimized by as a young child and it’s a young teenager and also free anchor into the Hearts face of praying for the victims of Elliot Rodgers and think about how the family members of the slain in the massacre that was the result of extreme sexual frustration if we could possibly imagine what the world would look like if men suffering from that anxiety had a healthy sexual initiation through these traditions of sacred feminine Sexual Healing practices and sexual initiation practices what the world would look like if there could be so much less sexual violence and so much more sexual healing and I think that we are going to learn a lot today and we’re going to start to figure out how we can support the efforts of these Frontline Warrior goddesses of peace and light and healing in love that we all desperately yearned for so with that said Tracy thank you so much for opening up your temple space for me in this moment and I’ll say now please bless us with all of your might and magic and mystery finishing up feeling a little altar here at fiery altar on this December 22nd and I have my Yoni symbol my beautiful pink conch shell and then I have the fireball then a mosaic that’s kind of like a stained glass and that reminds me of church and I grew up as in a church so I like I like the feeling that when you go into a Cathedral at Temple Church at a mosque I like how it feels when you go into that set aside Sacred Space so I wanted to bless the moment if I could that way anyway yeah so how about the history of the brief history of the Phoenix goddess Temple so that we know what we’re talking about and what is now being investigated I have been doing group practice since 2002 and I never set out to be a center holder for group practice it was something that I deliberately set out to do but what was happening is I was working in a certain way and people were responding to how I was working really it was the attitude with which I was working and so I had Seekers and that’s a that’s I’m for a very long time I’ve used a certain kind of language early on the state of Washington called me up and said you know we we have a complaint it on your website and it was a website I wasn’t even using called true Spectrum Tantra North a picture of a massage table and it said Relax on a massage style table and even say massage table is a massage – stufful table and they’re like you know that’s a reference to massage you can’t do that and so they wanted to visit the premises make sure we weren’t doing illegal massage it was in 2003 at the light Body Temple and in that I wrote her a response to the government to the state of Washington to Health Board and they accepted my explanation of what I was doing and they said we want you to know we keep funds to do will keep the file open and you’ll probably she’ll probably be visited by some undercover inspectors just a follow-up to make sure that you’re not doing that and you know we never really were but it made it very important at that point but I had to draw a line in the sand very early I’m not doing anything with massage it really isn’t massage we’ve always been calling at the altar Altar and the alt AR is consecrated that is dedicated with spiritual and and that upon this altar u a l t e r u alter towards the Divine and so we we don’t have massage tables we have altars and and then because I’m really into the quantum physics aspect of it they human-like body then I lights we always like the under part as well and with little white twinkle lights and it’s to represent that we are made up of particles flight and to not forget that so anyway so yeah I’ve been rocking with the government for a while and always successfully that’s why this was really shocking when it happened and yeah so it for a long time I’ve been doing group practice because I wanted to I I didn’t know that what I was doing with sacred when I began but I had a very Mystic beginning a Mystic initiation into Central Bodywork it was much more than that so the person that I was initiated by into this sensual touch work I think we called it central Bodywork is what it was called but this person was actually a magical intersexed person they were born both I think that that he she actually use the term hermaphrodite and this was astonishing for me I really felt like I had fallen down the rabbit hole but I was very happy to be there if it was like a whole nother world and I was Bible refer to him as he because he was literally living as a man at the time this initiation into this touch and what happens and how much people need it and his thing was he said you know if you give people the touch and a good a good massage a good a good all over touch then they’ll always come back and people don’t they don’t really when it comes to sex see no shopping around for sex with her that’s variety people never go back whatever but you said this is different you want to be a Healer like I don’t think he used the word healer but he talked a lot about the importance of touch and then if you gave good touch gave a good massage that was his word that he was trained in massage in a lot of people who work in a sensual field are in fact trained in the Sun and they could never let the Two Worlds touch because the protocols and ethics of massage don’t allow you to touch the whole body so RBI came from that background that touch I was never trained in massage but I I found that I had a knack for it I would gift for it I think a lot of people might find it given the right circumstances or writing for a judgment a little bit of demonstration a lot of people might find that they are healers that they have the hands of healer I found with very little effort that I was good at it and I’ve I’ve met other people who is soon as they got in chamber they were just naturally good at it so that’s a real thing and that’s me that’s body wisdom and there’s also the whole aspect of past lives and is something did you have a temple life and is now you’re remembering it in your body’s remembering it at the cellular level and you know how to do things that your mind doesn’t know how to do to me that’s real Mitten might not be to everybody but to me it’s real I’ve had some serious past life experiences that were extremely Vivid Ananda they weren’t anything else they weren’t dreams they weren’t wasn’t my imagination and it was like chilling so you know chillingly real how so the temple then evolved out of your practice of groups and people wanted to do there was a a percentage of people who really liked the idea of doing the work in a sacred Manner and people say what do you mean sacred and I say well yes I can’t really talk to you about sacred sexuality without some sort of definition for the sacred and for me that the practicing the operating definition of the temple is if you’re willing to be grateful if you are grateful for the gift of life that means that you’re operating in a sacred way if you are ignoring or even cursing the gift if you see this as a weigh station to a better before you get to a better place to me that’s not sacred and that’s kind of pagan it’s kind of Native American it’s an earth-based view that our sacred is everything around us if the the mall the matter the material is all sacred and but there is a thing about setting aside a Sacred Space and anyone who’s ever held space as its Center holder for a church Center holder for a temple even a sitter holder for a business or anything like that anytime group you know there’s a you know there’s a bubble in which the group conducted specialized activity and the energies are concentrated within that bubble they’re not diffuse they’re not out of the world you’re you’re concentrating those energy than that’s what the temples has it concentrates the energy so we were we were you know as far as the case goes I see how would I put this in a short Manor I moved to Arizona I did ceremony December 21st of 07 up at Sedona Temple and I was there with tomorrow brussaux and we were committed the two of us to founding a Sisterhood sacred sexual nunnery if you will send you know seen the movie A League of Their Own and there was this beautiful camaraderie of these women who had played baseball when it was really no one you know it was a guy’s game and what are you doing with these skirts out there on the field and really doing the sacred sexuality work is kind of like that you know you’re you’re sort of people think it’s a novelty you’re bucking a trend Yuri misunderstood and I just thought this would be great for us to have this this Sisterhood that appreciates and passes on knowledge and and we kind of have each other’s back so that was that kind of the through line for me is the Mystic sisters and I began to call us the Mystic sisters in the fall of 2002 and I swear that it was a church with spiritual healers and Earth stewards they offered me a charter into July of 2002 and So within a year of doing central Bodywork I had moved into realizing that for me and for a few other people that this work was sacred they felt they were really having like I don’t know like a church like experience but you know spiritual transformation shifting at the soul level shifting at the cellular level people were I was getting the feedback that we were changing lives even with simple body work because one of the things is if you’re doing the sacred sexual and you’re in that place of gratitude for the gift of life and and you are a holding space for whatever your version of sacred is people when they when they touch that they they come into your chamber your healing room and a lot of times they’ll just collapse into the wonderful Vibes of The Killers space and I want to divert a little bit here. Go off because it was about 2,000 and Hotsy was when I went to Florida I don’t know what’s a while ago very early two thousands I happened to hear in the middle of the night this woman talking and I wish I could credit her and I cannot but I heard on the radio this woman was talking about how the healers chamber the room must have the elements in it and that if your room has fire actual fire and you have water like a beautiful sacred bowl of water or poor or perhaps also a fountain we’ve got running water but properly placed of course and then you got heavier than Ware pots and maybe some huge Stones the biggest ones you can carry in big huge rocks in the north of your chamber or maybe you maybe you put them somewhere else and then having the air the fan so that there’s always this movement of air and she said you know when you put the four elements in a chamber and you have actual like a real tree a living tree and the end the leaves are rustling in the breeze of the fan there’s that there’s a an instantaneous healing that happens at the particle level that the each element breaks down two different sorts of molecules and particles and that that is so when it’s when a Healer sets at their chamber correctly a huge healing happens with the person just being in the room and it ends so that that struck me cuz I was already working with the four directions and the elements and so that just made sense and so I began to always do that with the chamber’s infect with the Earth portion of it we would buy two of every plant and two of every little tree and we would rotate them into the outer areas like the classrooms the hallway the foyer and switch the plants out so that we can have living trees a lot of work to do it that way and sopa and that’s where people have to slow down and end in really you don’t do your practice all the way 10 to those 10 to those living plans as part of your altar Pioneer sacred work anyway that’s going off on the healers listening so I wanted to share that it wasn’t my idea but I found that it’s very true if you go out of your way to have the elements in your chamber and properly Place everything so pretty like going back to the first thing I ever did was Brock with the government on massage at massage without a license and I’m sure we weren’t saying that in our phone script or anything I’m sure we called it sensual touch it even sensual Bodywork had like a different connotation so if I’m not mistaken it was right around the spring of 2003 that that I began to use the phrase whole body healing and it’s interesting because the word heel h e a l means in the Latin to make whole whole and to be whole whole is have your compartmentalize pieces brought back into one into a homeless and then when you are whole that’s also the same root word as holy holy so to heal is to behold behold is to be made holy and you become one with everything so I got really clear that I wasn’t doing massage I got really clear at the time I wrote a very specific letter about chakra balancing I mentioned a Bianca as a self-care Ritual from Arya Veda and that we were using a similar long Slidin Strokes on the limbs towards the heart and swirling on the limb give me the joints with with other body Benz you juice wrld it basic Avianca self-care ritual of anointing the body yourself but in the case of visiting the light Body Temple we were doing the ritual for you giving people different oils that they could choose from and and then I also was of course bringing up the holy anointing tradition in the Bible and Mary Magdalene as the anointing of Jesus I mean she was not Not only was she not a prostitute and I wanted to kick it in here that it wasn’t till 1969 at the Vatican admitted that my meds when was not a prostitute and they have yet to really acknowledge that Not only was she not a prostitute she was a priestess and the word Magdalene as she was Mary of magdala magdala which is the triple towered Temple of the Goddess there’s been a recent a very thorough translation of it and there’s no question that Mary Magdalene was a priestess of the Goddess temple in magdala that she was a holy anointer and I brought that up with the state of Washington and you know they accepted all of that and I have that letter and and they did probably come and do some undercover work and visit us and an however we were you know we were let go we I think no one ever visited my places that didn’t think I was sincere and because I am sincere and and there’s always people around me who feel that way to really when we want change part of it is is giving each other that witness to say I like this thing over here better let’s let’s focus on it let’s give it some energy this is better than what we’re doing and you need to do that together so that’s something that the temple did is it created vortexes of divine witness where people would get cool ideas somebody else would witness it back there might be a way to implement it because you are a community and so it’s a really it’s like a living organism that that was happening with the temples At The Florist beautiful so this idea of the witnessing I feel like a lot of fish Shadow behaviors in romantic and various kinds of interpersonal relationships that are not observed by at least another one other person if not a community of people it’s a lot of these really abusive Tendencies are allowed to fester in total secrecy and privacy so Fellowship around intimacy that structured and disciplined and in sacred and with the the higher vibrational procedures in place so that you’re not devolving into debauchery that’s a with excessive drugs or alcohol in a lot of people are just taking it you know if you make Eros into a sloppy kind of parties or if you look at some of the ancient temples there was always an aspect that was there were Spirits there were Vapors there were things that you would take and there were and pleasure was definitely part of it you know one of the things that was a real eye-opener for me was when some people in Seattle they have a I don’t know if they’re doing it now it really going to come put a damper on it when we when this happened in Phoenix but they call themselves sensual Seattle and they were teaching a certain type of sacred sexuality it involved what always washing the feet in the ancient tradition that did a lot of really cool stuff but they point out Bruce isella born of of that group he said you know because if you see if you look at sacred sexuality what they all have in common these ancient lineage has around sacred sex is that they all have to do with living forever they all have to do with connecting the orgasm to immortality and what Bruce what’s Ella born said he’s like you no pleasure is a respectable part of what we’re doing you don’t want it who would want to live forever if you’re not there’s no pleasure and we sort of we’re going to wear down on Pleasure we we we get down on it even in the touch committee were like we’re afraid of being hedonistic into carnal to Primal but really honestly we’re all living in our head I mean maybe not in the country Community but out in the world people are living in the upper chakras and they could use some more Primal touch body yeah maybe Primal nature taking over these are places temples many more like them to come in my in my future vision and I hope hopes and dreams so that we are helping each other navigate these white waters you know that the quick update would be we’ve always had the potential to use religion as a defense the state did not want that to happen I think when they raided the temples they got a hold of our paperwork our computers are videos or pictures they saw our altars whatever I think there wasn’t there had to be there at some level like holy crap we really did write a church here but but at some level they’re like it doesn’t matter we think they’re breaking the law so you know you fast forward to four and a half years later and sincerity is is always the defense like you can use religion as a defense if you’re sincere and where we’re at in December 2015 after waiting for your little over four years for this thing to go to is it all of the Witnesses are saying this was my religion this was my church it was my school I was there to give my gift as a Healer or I was there to be healed or both the states as recently as this week and I think we have all this you know we’re going to start uploading all of the trial video able to buy it for $30 a day we can walk out with the trial video so we purchase the first four weeks and we are in the process of uploading that and we had we already have it up except for that and it is actually but you have to we found out we have to hide all the phases of the undercover detective like I’m responsible for that for hiding them so this is a call to action for financial support his ninja as a community is a huge defense it’s a real defense and then what happens is they have to prove or harm which which is my really circuitous way of getting back around to shame doing things in secrecy what part does Temple play in helping people get over this sort of shadowy aspect of intimate relations where let’s say you’re monogamous but you your partner’s no longer having sex with you and you’re never going to break that Bond but you don’t so don’t want to go to your grave never having sex again we’re just never being touched there or whatever that is that you’re not willing to to keep going and then you, you find someone in the Temple and so this is it’s interesting because of the sincerity thing now is back on the table religious defense is back on the table as of this last week and what it means that they have to prove harm in the hot day in Arizona there’s something a ruling that had to do with criminal accusations and being defended by a Church there was a gentleman by the name of Hardesty who went all the way to the Arizona supreme court defending marijuana as his religious Sacrament and because he was in his car there were like we’re going to we agree with you that this can be a religious Sacrament but we’re not going to let you have it in your car because he was saying I can have it anywhere anytime at all time and if it and they’re like because of the way the laws are at present we have to treat this the same as alcohol therefore you can’t have it in your car even under religious protection and then when did that when they did this Hardesty ruling they also and I’m going to have to paraphrase this but put it into writing that in the state of Arizona if I government doesn’t like what a church is doing and there’s and there’s no clear law no precedent around that particular religious group than the state has the burden to harms before it takes actions against the church WIll what they’re looking at with the temple is a lot of goodness every single person has testified about couples work working with women yes we admit that yes it was mostly male Seekers sing mostly female practitioners but we were always available for couples work always available for women’s work and I did do those thing and workshops and classes and coursework so the jury is getting to see all of that overall it’s been fun in Arizona it’s quite interesting that they get to ask question understanding that looks like a real Church why did you do this so going back around to what this Hardesty ruling is it means that the state has to prove a harm if they want to prosecute the church and end really so right after social work and is sort of feeding back into that sector the wisdom of of the Amazon and and Beyond and so is that something that you have I thought I remember reading somewhere you know we’re talking to you at some point about how this is this is like you could be hired by the more formal above ground and sectors of social work or Community work with where you can be brought in to bring some of the stuff that would normally be or I guess it’s just it’s a very interesting Cutting Edge of an intersection and I if I’m not mistaken that’s that you you are like sort of partially in that world 2 of of social work or is that something I understand correctly or social worker social worker y’all are layout string this conversation back and see where where I where I am placed social work as well as all the modalities of counseling and healing you know like they are all part and parcel to supporting and upholding status quo capitalist system so I’m going to like you know like you know also having been in the punk scene also had a big impact on my my party now thought you know in terms of healing these wounds we have to look at that you know we can’t we can’t say like that are healing is going to be independent of a world that is reeling and suffering from the continuation of this system as it is and so that’s where I for me like bringing capitalism into the equation is is something that’s real tricky it’s something that I feel needs to be kind of understood that you know we we can’t just rely on having sting services that we can pay for because that creates a gap you know where some people are going to have accessible abilities to to the healing and others won’t and that’s that’s not healthy for anyone and and also that it doesn’t address the root cause of why we need social workers to begin with and why we need counseling and all of that so I really like the notion of cultural healing that’s where more where I would be comfortable in any way kind of looking at myself as any kind of healer I don’t think we we can really heal individuals that’s really something that you know a person will need to and it’s not like they can be facilitated to do their own healing work but nobody can fix us we have to fix ourselves that’s that’s more I think a more powerful Paradigm to be apart of but you know I I I have worked in the realm I focused therapy and you know I have spent quite a bit of time around the spirit plant medicines and seeing how the plant medicines have assisted and I do I do continue continuously work to increase my knowledge and wisdom around working with us plants and and that also brings us back into that hole realm of discussion around you know ancestors and working with them or perhaps that’s something we haven’t really touched upon but maybe she said it’s just that in any form of healing that we do I guess for me the important thing that I really try to bring into whatever I do connecting back with her ancestors and healing the trauma of how we were disconnected from those ancestors and how that plays out in any kind of sexual wounds or emotional wounds that we carry and so that’s something that I I I feel like the role of initiation and ritual can can really do and that’s that’s been its Province ever since people began doing patrols I think it’s to build upon the legacy of their ancestors and to draw and their their help and support cool said that yeah thank you for helping me understand the other parameters a little better and and 100% there with you I have I have been because I live in the United States where there’s different laws around no prostitution in in how that affects the healing with sexual touch and pleasure as medicine and stuff like that is a lot more yes I understand in in Canada there’s there’s a lot more interesting legal space in order to do Hands-On Sexual Healing work relative to the US where it’s completely off limits in so I because of that adapting to that reality and also is a permaculture designer myself I have to think very deeply about how to navigate this issue of for-profit healing work that kind of in most sectors is about like you said I’ll put in my own words it’s like they want to know if if the if you’re at a time of time robot that supposed to be producing a set amount to be a productive member of the of the GDP then then if you’re not functioning properly than the the goal of the mainstream social work or psychotherapeutic or psychiatric Fields they’re trying to get you back into the rat race as soon as possible and they’ll do that with drugs with talk therapy or whatever that is about avoiding through tissue which is the disconnection from urethane from a healthy holistic wild habitat you know a night as a primitivist I see that you know the solution to your Neurosis is to retry belies and Get Growing your own food again in and rebuild that fabric so you know there with you on that tension about right livelihood in and taking money for healing and what is he doing so I really like what you said and that just is going to it’s going to help me a lot looking at healing the cultural level and healing the if I’m understanding right and I’ll put a couple my own words on it but I feel like we’re trying to build the scaffolding or were trying to design the context for people to take the responsibility of a personal healing and gone to that journey and so if you if what would you say are some practical skills are tools from all of your things that you would teaching and training and a things that you discovered in your own journey to where you’re in power tools for empowerment that you suggest or are resources that you suggest people Explorer to if they’re called to do the cultural healing work weather for profit or non-profit. Some dance between the two or it and then what what are some recommendations for people who are on their own path and aren’t necessarily called to do the the cultural healing yeah I mean it’s it’s a pretty vast subject that one but I think that a few points that I could think about and talk about our that I’m going to this idea of bringing you back in the station rights and recognizing that in the absence of them what do we have you know we are we are sadly in there without initiated Elders so many of us and if there are any of Elders that hold that ability to to guide those those ones are those are worth their weight in gold you know there really is people that we should try to lift up and and give them their recognition and see you know and then in the absence of that it’s like we kind of by default Our Generations people that will have to hopefully fulfill that and reach a place where we can actually help upcoming generations to go in a way that they don’t have to completely go it alone and and figure it out on them on their own the way that so many of us have had to and so there is a movement around Rites of Passage I sit on the board if you passageways which is a network that focus is squarely on you no Rites of Passage for you coming of age from all different walks and and and modalities you know some of them are our Boys to Men oriented some of them are girls to women some of them are starting to incorporate non gender binary kind of approaches as well which is good and and this whole focus on bringing back the ancestors into looking at Rites of Passage is is starting to happen and something that I focused on and so that’s that’s a resource you know people can go to youth passageways. Oregon and look at what programs are out there and they can also think about how they can add to that list and bring in things that are needed around especially around sexuality and relationship which is often I noticed kind of a big gap in a lot of programs out there you know because they’re confined confined or constrained by the conservative values where they take place and you know what school system is you know this is one of those places lagging for that kind of thing so it’s a role that I think that many people who understand the need can step into and cultivate as career paths you know and some people are pig figuring out how they can weave their credentials says on Sexual Health Educators or sexual therapist or sexual trauma or no trauma-based therapists you know into this realm of initiation and that’s that needs to happen on a on an increased level the other I see a lot of because of what I was saying around looks really don’t how many Avenues to learn other than through you know what the books in the workshops and offerings around sexuality thoughts unfortunately are not rooted in in people’s only need two lineages generally speaking you know so the whole Tantra movement is pretty much so you know a cultural appropriator of New Age fight version of those Traditions that would have been squashed by Christianity especially and so I think there’s work to be done there and as much as possible Retreat retrieving reconstructing are reconnecting with our own ancestral Traditions which I’m sure you know had their own knowledge wisdom around how to how to raise healthy harmonious individuals with healthy sexualities from from the vantage point of how what little I do know has been has been done in indigenous cultures and without wanting to appropriate for them from them I’ll just give way of examples out of that you know in and certain cultures that are studied like the Mayan culture and I think to some degree on certain places within Creek culture there’s examples of how as societies you know that the children are raised from an early age 2 reach a point where they understand how to how to harmonize with the other sex and how to to look after each other and that’s just a very basic principle that I feel like you know that’s that’s worth kind of learning how to integrate into our family structures if we have children that were raising just to keep in mind that you know there is a need for them to learn skills around things like consent and around being responsible with with one’s sexual energies and and I needs to start before they reach that age of adolescence where they’re just harder to connect with if you haven’t built up that Foundation so that’s something that I think about will do you so if I if if we check out that the organization that you mention is it would that be good place to find and something like a more enlightened or more conscious like sexual education curriculum or guidebook do you know if people were working on something like that so if I know if you know parents who were going through the puberty of their child that they have something that’s not just this cold clinical Western and even though that sort of evolving a little bit you know with things like a sack didn’t and whatnot I see a lot but the The ancestral wisdom and you know the ceremonial Rites of Passage you know how does it how does the Modern Family say okay well you’re about to start feeling you know hormonal Energy’s how do we give you know create even if it’s just within their family or their Community yoga or whatever is something more than what’s being offered in the normal sex ed or what they’re listening in gangster rap music and watching on sitcoms obviously you know it’s enough for lack of lot of alternative options it’s one one place to look and we’re always looking for others so whenever we discover something then we will see to auditory resources and we are trying to vet those resources and those organizations to make sure that they really are you know at least there’s some some level of you know safe recommendation that we can give for those those organizations we’re not we’re not in the position to really kind of completely you know set standards but we are trying to we have a code of what we call it a cross-cultural protocol so we do look at that aspect that you have for what we’re talking about that’s you know if that’s another layer that we will hopefully get to eventually and I do know that there are people within our Network who are really strongly focused on this particularly around girls to women kind of education and and Rites of Passage and some of the Boys to Men once but I think it’s also something we need to to enhance as well oh that’s great yeah that’s that’s that’s what I wanted to hear so that I can just refer people to this ongoing and so and then the LSI is kind of its there’s a Facebook I’ve been interacting with the the Facebook group for a while so is that something you recommend people plug-in I mean that’s the goal of that is to feature blogs and generate discussions from those blogs and also to establish a resource of services as well as information and so that’s you know running on in a very limited volunteer capacity and so you know it’s something that I hope will eventually become a very powerful resource but already it’s you know it’s been feedback that I’ve received that you know even just the the group that we have on Facebook somebody posted recently. You know it’s really help them in their in their path which is nice to hear and I’ve heard that a few times and I try to curate that group in such a way where it’s like you know it’s trying to generate discussion and it’s it’s trying to be a safe space where where people can get into some of those I’m intimate revealing is of what what’s going on in their lives one of the things that kind of came out of love sex intelligence local as a connection with Tamara and the love school that they have which is a very congruence philosophy to love sex intelligence and they’re their work to try to create or with to create safe spaces for people to to share stories of what’s going on in their intimate lover sexual lives and and B witnessed in a way that is non-judgemental where they’re not being flooded with advice but more just being witnessed which is kind of connected to that whole framework for Rites of Passage itm witnessing each other and so it’s it’s trying to also look at how you know communities can succeed in their in their goals which might include you know like being more sustainable or being an alternative to the systems around us and also being a part of a more peaceful kind of culture through filling this hole that is often where things go wrong where people are are are not feeling safe to talk about these these human experiences around wounding around are our hearts and our sexuality so I’ve been part of a Practice Group here that has been circulating also to other parts of BC and I think it’s a really it’s a really powerful movement to be a part of yeah we’re getting close to an hour or so I have to take a few more minutes and I’m get a couple thoughts and feelings some responsible for 1 something that his is coming up for me that I think it’s really empowering is this like idea that wouldn’t it be nice if some of us started to think of ourselves as aspiring Elders I’ve never thought of it that way until this conversation and there’s a little spark of joy and me that that says you know puts in context the the punk rock lifestyle that I had of live fast Die Young and just you know if it’s not throwing yourself into the meat grinder of insurrectionary activism you know with this sort of Death Wish you know this martyr complex or whatever it’s like those are really unsustainable archetypes to follow and they leave a lot of people when they get to my age in about 35 like in a sort of existential crisis that will the revolution didn’t happen and I didn’t get killed I didn’t die in the gutter you know I mean what am I going to do now and it’s like well maybe it’s time to become an aspiring Elder and you know clean up your act and and then start to think about how you’re going to make it easier cuz I there’s a lot of things that I had to go through that I would seriously love to have no one else ever have to go through and if you know if we can live in that. you know that is what you’re supposed to think that I think of you say you know you can you can learn from the wisdom of Elders who have gone through and made the mistakes that you’re probably going to go through or you can just be hard-headed and learn all your lessons the hard way but I mean we’ve had to learn a lot of hard lessons in the absence of the eldership but I think if we take on that there’s a yeah me too. It seems obvious but really the way you put it his medicine for me to think you know it’s a dignified path to be an aspiring Elder and then it makes you not be so how do I can help you defeat that that that grinding pressure that oh my I’m going to lose my looks and I’m going to lose my energy and I’m going to be in the state of deprecation towards death and that’s very much the greatest fear of the western manicured Uno photoshopped airbrushed identity like you’re not really giving any hope that aging will be of any benefit in here just marginalized further and further so I thank you for that serve very much still give that time sacred eldership dignity not a light title to hold I think the true Elder wouldn’t really feel comfortable in it cuz it’s defining attributes of an elder that is really one that can help that role be the best it can be is one that is is really accountable is really present isn’t so on the move that if you can’t you know be relied upon to be there for the people that it serves now needs to ideally be in the in the fellowship of other Elders to kind of keep it in in in check in a way like we have to watch for the Cole group kind of phenomenon where people you know place a lot of weight on that person and in a way that can privilege them in certain ways and also lead to potential like power distortions and things like that you know it’s it’s only human that people will make mistakes and so having that kind of accountability of other people and also that time yeah you have people heart or a different there’s always like in every phase of life with the lifecycle there’s there’s like the maturing phases and so there’s like you know there’s a baby elder there’s enough adult Elder and then Senior Elder and so it’s just we have to learn at each stage of Life how to become the mature version of what that stage is and says just something to think about as well and it’s good to to get your feet wet early on in life so that you know we can have deep roots and and the and those are the kinds of people to like in the Tamara situation out of the black community they have a circle of Elders who are basically people who have grown with a community enough that they know the people in their community and then they serve a role as potential kind of like the Matchmaker but you know in a way where people can approach them in and ask them like you know I’m interested in this person and they can help you assess whether this is the right time or what is a good or bad idea and you know they can kind of that. Whole courtship in a way that you know really I think I wish there were more of those people around here don’t you let me relax you know learn the hard way what does that we’re just not compatible certain people in The Matrix the I mean yeah I’m not I’m not a political scientist of the Matrix but I will say that what got me peaked on the ecstatic trance dance group ritual ceremony festival thing was it really when I saw I think it was maybe the second movie or maybe it was the second or the third but there was a scene where they’re just getting down to like Juno Reactor I think was a soundtrack of a butt there is something beautiful about seeing the different the warrior culture Guided by elders and of course there’s different the archetypes playing out in Conflict split that to me was took it further than then the Star Trek Federation is a futuristic Elder guided Council guided kind of reality so that was kind of fun but yeah so that’s what came to mind when you’re at we’re talking about that be so cool if you’re early sexual oracle’s who you go to you know if we’re going to give you insights and maybe even have name your child for you or something cool like that you know be so cool but right on then will I worry about at the hours so do you have any closing touch you want to share or any other resources or should we just I’ll post the the links that you mention and I’ll definitely encourage people to stay informed and keep an eye out for your anything coming up you have any appearances or anything exciting like that coming up you want to mention I think yeah I think I covered a lot of it and I just wanted to maybe plant a seed while I have the airwaves here about something that I’d I’d eventually like to work on presenting which is around insert Intercultural relationships and also decolonizing our relationships as well and just thinking about how how we can heal some of these ancestral traumas and use that has as as a means to strengthen our relationships and also our society right on I’ll be looking forward to everything that you’re you’re expressing in the world and I hopefully yeah maybe sometime in the future we can talk about skill sets for Beyond Christian monogamy that would be a great topic so yeah how would you feel about that maybe we can sometime in the next few months follow up with something like that. Maybe by the by the time I’ll have more of a personal lived experience to a base conversation around that I think you know in terms of people who are already I don’t know how many listeners here are on a Christian spiritual path without that many but if the energy and gnosticism and sacred marriage not going to the alchemical top in the in the Gnostic tradition but I I wouldn’t make any claims to be an expert in that area but it’s definitely something to look at cool alright then we will be in touch and will follow up sometime in the future and thank you so much so be I really enjoyed it and I know it’s taking us a while to get this to get this done but I think it was perfect and I couldn’t ask for anything more so you have a wonderful day. 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In this episode I read an essay I originally wrote several years ago to document my study of Francesca Gentile’s Sex, Tantra, and Kama Sutra Podcast. After listening to every episode I felt compelled to summarize the highlights of what I learned and create a simple introductory practical guide to spiritually conscious sexual union. I recently revised it for publication at the Good Men Project, and I’ve recorded a spoken word version here.
Why Get Off When You Can Stay On and Get High?
Everyday we wake up with renewed sexual energy, and we’re driven by the need to do something with it. What does it want to do? It wants to connect with other consenting age-appropriate human beings in as free, open, loving, and wild a way possible. It wants to get us high, heal our bodies, blast us into hyperspace, take us for a trip across the astral plane, keep us peaceful, careful, loving, and kind, bind couples and communities together, drive procreation, and more.
Unfortunately the dominant culture has denied this energy, dammed its flow, and damned its spirit to hell. Virtually everyone in our culture is sexually dysfunctional, physically, mentally, and spiritually. The resulting sickness manifests subtly and overtly in all domains. Much of what is toxic, unsustainable, and harmful in modern civilization can be thought of as the physical manifestation of misdirected sexual energy. When we train our minds and bodies to embrace and cultivate this energy we can build more ethical economic systems, more sustainable infrastructure, and have more compassionate public policy and diplomacy. Instead of trashing the finite planet to build empires of ego, we can build palaces of transcendent pleasure in infinite spiritual realms, right from the comfort of our own bedrooms. Frustrated, angry sublimation can be transmuted to blissful flowing superlimation.
Here are some practical steps for men:
Without self love, most people are love deficient, they have a hole that they’re trying to fill, rather than an overflowing abundance that they’re eager to share.
For most of my life I lived without self love. I didn’t think it could be cultivated from within, I thought I needed it to be imported from the outside. Through serious pain, heart-break, and study I learned how and why to self-love. From compliments to the mirror, to medibation (masturbation + meditation), to getting fit, to eating right, to educating myself, I learned to take an active interest in myself so that when I hear the song “Enjoy the Silence” by Depeche Mode, I sing “All I ever wanted, all I ever needed…” to myself, “here in my arms”…me! Without that glowing self love, where you stand tall, with good posture, happy for no reason, content, calm, peaceful, energetic, you can’t attract what you really want. Attraction is a factor of energy. You can be skinny and be unattractive if you’re spirit is faded and you don’t love yourself. Conversely, you can be large and be an electro-magnet because you love yourself and it excites and turns people on. It’s not a matter of how tight the skin is to the bones, it’s a matter of how tight the spirit is to the flesh. The spirit’s food is love, feed it everyday with a life-long romance with yourself, your body, your mind. Your spirit will stay with you and turn heads for you. Crouch like a pretzel in the corner, let your spirit fade, and dwell in the shadow of negative self talk, and self-conceived ugliness, and you will not attract anyone, or whoever you do attract will be of like-vibration, you’ll attract another pain-bodied self-hating energy vampire and you’ll perpetually make life hell for each other.
The simplest way I can put it is to use the cultural construct of the “dream man” or “dream woman”. At one point I said to myself, wait a minute, if I’m this toxic mess of deprivation and clingy, needy desire, and I want some angelic princess to come along and rescue me and make me happy, and be perfect, and never upset me, or change, well, only change to be exactly the way I want her of course…isn’t something missing from the picture? That’s an ugly picture, beauty and the beast! I realized that, the dream love I wanted was a two way street. I had to love myself just as much, I had to be my dream self, or at least know what that was and be working towards it. So I built the vision in my mind of my dream self, and without waiting for someone to rescue me, I went to work, broke out of my shell of self-pity and started to build the dream me. I’ll never be done, because as I grow I want to grow more, but as long as I’m growing, I’m not dying and the mirror gets more and more forgiving and loving. Not just because of physical work, but because of spiritual, intellectual, and emotional work.
In this heart-broken and self-esteem broken society, the mirror is your worst enemy but it can become your best friend no matter what anyone else says about your appearance. It can be a tool to develop a relationship with yourself, your first and only truly life-long relationship. You can go through a million partners, but you’ll always have to face yourself, sleep with yourself, argue with yourself, put up with yourself. The mirror can be a tool for building that abundance of love, from the inside out that you can share with the world.
By training I mostly mean masturbation, or preferably medibation (masturbation + meditation). For men, if you’re not “getting laid” you better be staying in shape by masturbating not just to get off and get on with life, but rather to make love to yourself with similar time, focus, and attention, as you’d give to the act of love with a partner. Not only is it necessary to maintain “stamina” by mastering the art of riding the edge of climax and drawing the energy through the body with breath and self massage, but it’s necessary to keep your body lit up with erotic energy.
If you’re not in a partnership where sex is shared regularly, maintaining a healthy regular loving relationship with yourself keeps your wiring and gears from rusting and locking up.
Also the power to do sex magic is as potent (though perhaps not as powerful) alone as with a partner. Think about it, when stimulating yourself you’re raising all of this energy into and through your system, whatever thoughts/visions/ideas/desires are in your mind can and should be energized as well. Whether you need to psyche yourself out to remember the study questions for the mid-term, of you’re trying to manifest a new job, or a new lover, why waste the energy by just consuming porn or fantasizing about some cover-girl?
The Love of a Lover
I think you can have great sex with strangers, it’s not very safe, fulfilling, or sustainable, and it can’t get you as high as with a true lover. Developing love first is always a better way to go in my opinion because there can be trust, comfort, relaxation, safety and other ingredients listed below.
So here are few notes on the love of a lover. It’s actually easier to love oneself it seems because you’re in total control of your decisions (unless you’re dominated by addictive behavior, then you’re basically in a toxic relationship with yourself). In relationships, a tension builds over time around all the resentment over little things, the disagreements, power struggles, compromises, annoyances, etc. If that energy isn’t carefully managed and flushed properly, it can back up into the bedroom and toxify the sexual environment. Even worse, sex can be manipulated as a weapon to seek justice or revenge for problems in other domains of the relationship. It can be withheld, or faked, or just done without passion or spirit and be lame. Either partner can find ways to poison the sacred union both intentionally and unintentionally.
In my experience and study, there are a few key patterns in relationships that have to be carefully guarded against. And there are a few practices that have to be religiously maintained in order for healthy, ecstatic sex to be shared.
First I want to describe the typical love curve. For most couples, high states of ecstasy are easily achieved early on because the love is fresh, exciting, and new. There is heightened curiosity, passion, romance, and both partners are on their best behavior, they haven’t yet fought, their lives aren’t yet entangled, they haven’t had to work through issues or compromise on much. This “Cloud 9” high, is great, but it doesn’t last. It’s a true neuro-chemical drug-induced state that sooner or later you “come down” from and reality comes crashing back in. True mastery of love would be to know how to re-access these chemical states and actually enhance them over time as the relationship grows. The difference after the initial free high wares off, is that you have to give more energy and attention to sustain it, and consistently purify the relationship with fun, adventure, novelty, creativity, and most importantly, open hearted communication.
In our culture of instant gratification, cheap thrills, and no work ethic, most people stay perpetually stuck in the “thrill of the chase” stage where you play “the game” of building up a flirtatious and seductive fling. You’re getting high on the excitement of pursuit, there’s uncertainty and the possibility for failure which keeps you on your toes. You play the game and once you win, that is, once you actually hook up, have sex, and start hanging out, the excitement disappears. It becomes easy, mundane, expected, the chase is over, the thrill is gone. So what do you do, you trail off in communications, you stop being responsive, you fade away and begin again with another prey. Men and women do this all the time, usually leaving a broken-hearted victim.
It makes sense in a way because once that 2 week to 2 month easy high wears off, building a lasting love requires disciplined effort, and all of the ugliness of each person starts to creep out. It makes perfect sense, but it also keeps people in perpetual immaturity. Why do people get stuck in the addictive “chase” cycle, because they lack the patience and discipline to really apply themselves to build real love. The lack of true love, and shallowness of constant flings means ultimate lack of fulfillment and unhappiness, and often the inability to experience the highest states of ecstasy.
I’ve basically tried to establish this phenomenon of the love curve. We’re all some where along it. The goal I think should be to understand it, and find ways to healthily work through it so that it’s more evenly spaced. For example, in a long term relationship, when the initial spike drops, expect it, be aware of it, and don’t think that the love is dead, just know that like a garden, it will die if not properly maintained with TLC. So many couples are sexless for decades, then shell out thousands of dollars to therapists just so they can re-ignite that initial romantic passion. The next time you fall in love, keep a dairy together and take good notes on what felt the best so you’ll have a bread crumb trail to follow when times get tough.
Every person has certain stimuli that make them feel loved the most. It could be a word, a voice tonality, a touch, a place to visit, whatever it may be, the point is we need to know things like this about ourselves and our lovers, and we need to upkeep the practice of making one another feel loved. And we need to learn how to clear emotional space so that passion can be kept alive.
Again, like a garden, if you don’t properly bury the weeds and their seeds in sheet mulch, all the nutrients will be robbed and your crops will be grown over and buried alive. It’s easy to get lazy and let the weeds grow in relationships, so that you can’t even see what you originally planted. If you’re lucky it’s still there, but it’s going to be a hard job to clear it up and bring it into full production if you’ve let it go for a while. That’s why simple, steady, low-level maintenance is so important in love. Going back to the self love component, the more inner prep work you’ve done while alone, the less weeds will sprout in the garden of your love with a partner. With the right amount of preparation and maintenance you’ll be spending more time smelling each others flowers and tasting each others fruits than pulling each others weeds.
Just try to set the intention with yourself and your lover to keep a burning desire for each other alive, and make sure to have combustible chemistry always. It’s not easy, don’t blame yourself or your partner if it fades. The dropping off of the curve is natural, accept it and put effort into pushing it up to ever-higher levels! I great formula for sustaining healthy long-term relationships that I’ve learned and practiced is: daily affection, weekly date-nights, and monthly romantic adventures. I’ve added a couple bonuses: on demand 5-10 minute cuddle breaks and on demand spontaneous dance breaks.
Your sex partner should be someone with whom you share similar life goals. The more aligned your ambitions are the more stable and fruitful the relationship will be. Falling in lust and building a relationship without a foundation of purpose can often be a recipe for disaster. Co-creative synergy should be as important in selecting a mate as sexual chemistry and physical attractiveness.
Prayer and Intent
Before love making verbalize a shared intention, it could be to honor each other as divine beings, to deepen the love, or to achieve a specific outcome such as manifesting a promotion at work. Sacred sexuality involves sexualizing prayer and overcoming religious shame of carnal pleasure. Whatever names you use to call upon your God(s)/Goddess(es) of choice, addressing them in your love making ritual is essential. Many people exclaim “Oh My God” unconsciously throughout the act. In my experience, sexual energy is an amplifier of your prayers. If you want your prayers to make it to the top of the stack, state them clearly and believe fully that whatever request you make will be best received when packaged in a container of pure loving grace.
This is very subjective and variable. But to be safe, my experience and study tells me that for intercourse itself, 30 minutes or more is the optimal range for the magic to really happen. There are so many energetic and chemical currents, some raging, some very subtle, but they’re all epic in their development. The more time they have to flow, the more merging of consciousness can occur so that you become one unified vessel of blissful consciousness able to soar through higher dimensions.
Sacred Set and Setting
Creating a magical altar, lighting candles, burning incense, playing music, wearing sensual clothing, etc. can anchor a sacred mindset and on a metaphysical level, serve to disinfect the environment. Ritualizing the build up to union creates an atmosphere where consciousness is focused, attention is undivided, and the body has the cues it needs for juices to flow and for arousal to occur gradually from a deeper level of being. You may choose to burn sage and call in by name whatever spiritual allies you are close to and command that all things that don’t serve the highest good be banished, be they negative emotions, energies, or entities. If this sounds too occult or hippie-ish, it’s easy enough to simply verbalize that you intend to create a field of pure love where nothing but the truth of bliss is welcome.
Bathing is one of the most sensual activities you can share together. It’s always recommended from a sexual health and hygiene perspective, beyond that it effectively sets up the “take turns” approach to giving and receiving pleasure.
Energy comes from proper eating habits, hydration, regular exercise, rest and the right attitude. Poor diet, dehydration, lack of movement, sleep deprivation and a negative attitude will rob you of energy. Huge meals before love making can obviously sap energy. Light meals at least a couple of our before love making is recommended and trays of fresh fruit, berries, nuts, chocolate, and other healthy sensual foods to snack on throughout a love making session are quite nice and help sustain energy levels.
Dancing is the art of making love before or without having sex. If you haven’t danced with someone, how can you trust them with your heart and your sexual health? Dancing is an essential part of maximizing the potential of foreplay. It’s what starts all of the engines in the charka system. It gets the blood flowing, detoxifies the lymph system, and gets you energetically prepared for long lasting, full bodied, transcendent orgasms. It also creates a field within which only blissful emotion can survive, it makes the past dissolve, and allows smiles to bubble to the surface uncontrollably.
You can roll on top of each other at midnight after you click off the TV, knowing you have to get up at 6:00am, and the love making will most likely leave much to be desired. A better approach would be to shut off the TV a couple hours earlier and pretend you and your lover are the TV stars, act out and role play your own script, be your own entertainment, and make it a dancing musical while you’re at it!
Relaxation with Massage
When people rush to sex, they’re not taking the time to shed the energetic tension of the day. Massage is an exquisite means to bring the body to a state of complete and total relaxation. If lovers gave each other even a five minute coconut oil massage before intercourse, they’d experience exponentially more pleasure and satisfaction.
Full Attention and Presence with Meditation
Meditation is the key to focusing your full attention and into the body and the present moment. It can be as simple as closing your eyes and focusing your attention on deep breaths. There are infinite ancient and modern techniques from all over the world. It’s best to try a variety and decide what works best for you and your partner. Whether you’re sitting still, stretching, or dancing, the goal should be to quiet the mind.
Breathing, and Conscious Energy Circulation
Breathing techniques are extremely important. There are all kinds that should be studied and experimented with. According to Tantric and Taoist traditions, the breath can be the most powerful tool to circulate energy. It’s critical that the men master breathing techniques so that the high voltage sexual energy can be drawn up from genitals and circulate internally throughout the body, and externally when with a partner. There are many detailed diagrams of energy flow within an individual’s sexual energetic circuitry and the same for couples. I won’t describe these in detail here, but it’s enough to know that when shared sexual energy is built in a couple, it has to go somewhere. For many men who don’t consciously circulate their sexual energy with breathing, meditation, and visualization techniques, premature ejaculation is a lifelong curse.
If the energy is not consciously cycled within the individual or couple, it will get jammed in the genital area and eventually explode in the form of a fleeting orgasm. But when circulated, it can result in waves of multiple orgasm for both the female and the male, and thus push the couples unified consciousness into ever higher and deeper altered states of ecstasy.
Warning: breath and energy circulation techniques should be practiced only with the guidance master. Extremely powerful waves of energy can be released that require advanced methods of preparation to be able to safely endure.
Eye gazing, or sustained eye contact is one of the most intense forms of intimacy. It comes easily in the early stages of love and when practiced regularly during sex can play an important role in sustaining true love. Having sex in the dark or with eyes closed, or astray, allows the mind to wander. Consciousness can leave the moment, whether it’s to fantasize about someone else, or go over the shopping list, without eye contact, there’s no guarantee that quality attention is shared. It doesn’t have to be constant, but it should be regular, and it should be what starts the sexual session.
It’s not desirable to be fettered with all kinds of formal procedures, or to keep count of this or that, the point is to train in these things so that they become effortless and automatic. It’s just like martial arts, you train to learn the skill and eventually like magic the skill performs for you without arduous effort. Your consciousness is free to just be fully present in the experience as your body dances with the energy using the tools and techniques you taught it.
Basic Anatomy and Stimulation
Developing an understanding of female anatomy is so important. The dominant culture has trained men to believe that 100% of a woman’s pleasure is a direct result of his size when in fact the majority of erogenous tissue is in and around the clitoris. And only certain positions actually allow the penis to reach the G-Spot.
Sadly, porn cinematography favors the visually dramatic deep thrusting pattern which is typically the least pleasurable for the woman, and the most overstimulating for the man. The key is to balance the stimulation, so excitement builds steadily for both partners. Keep the thrusting pattern at a ratio that favors shallow over deep. This will protect you from overstimulation and keep her in a positive feedback loop of building anticipation and reward.
Another vital strategy to prevent premature ejaculation is to do what boxers do when they get exhausted. You know how they burrrow themselves into each other as though to hide from their opponents punches by limiting their range and velocity? Well you can achieve the same effect by thrusting all the way in and holding on tight with a bear hug so that the range of thrusting motion is limited and your stimulation is decreased. You’ll discover that being in deep for longer periods of time actually benefits your partner because she’ll be happy to grind on your public bone while you whimper and pant while regaining your strength for continued thrusting action.
Direct manual clitoral stimulation should not be done immediately, rather, slow caressing of the pelvic area should be gradually built up. Packed in the clitoris are as many nerves as the entire penis, and there’s a “circuit overload” phenomenon that can be quite uncomfortable and inhibit arousal.Direct manual clitoral stimulation should not be done immediately, rather, slow caressing of the pelvic area should be gradually built up. Packed in the clitoris are as many nerves as the entire penis, and there’s a “circuit overload” phenomenon that can be quite uncomfortable and inhibit arousal.
There is also the G-Spot, which is just behind the pubic bone in the inner vaginal wall. Insert one or two fingers and do the “come hither” motion to put pressure on the dense sponge-like tissue. Once you and your partner have located it with fingers and she can identify the sensation, experiment with various positions of intercourse and become more conscious of how to stimulate it with the penis.
The male anatomy is pretty self-explanatory, however most straight folk are unaware of the male G-Spot, which is the prostate. It’s about the size of a dried apricot and it can be stimulated from the outside by applying pressure between the testicles and the anus, or for the slightly more adventurous, from within via insertion of body parts/objects of your choice into the anus.
Everyone is different, everyone’s wiring is different; that is what’s fun about getting to know someone sexually. For someone to share with you what makes them unique and for them to train you to play them like a musical instrument can be a true joy.
I won’t go into detail about positions, oral techniques, thrusting patterns, etc. here, just study, experiment and keep in mind the principles of spontaneity and diversity.
Consider how when you put your clothes on, your body registers the sensation, but once it’s registered, it doesn’t keep sending you the same signals. There’s a trailing off of sensation once your body gets used to something so the changing of position, rate, depth, patterns, etc. often keeps the body guessing and the signals are more intense.
So how does the average American male understand his sexual energy and its application with a sex partner? Generally, like most things in patriarchal culture, it’s understood within a construct of goal oriented sports. Hence the metaphors, “Did you score?, “No, I only got to third base,”… Guys are culturally taught that the objective is to score, first by getting a woman in bed, second by performing athletically so that she reaches climax during or before his climax. No surprise that the locker-room wisdom for guys to keep from ejaculating prematurely is to “think of a sport where you haven’t shot the ball yet…”
The primary goal of simply having sex is far more rewarded and tallied in the locker room than the secondary goal which is to perform in a way the satisfies one’s partner. So although all men know they’re supposed to be able to “go all night long” most don’t bother to learn how. The average American married couple’s sex lasts for 3-5 minutes.
This tragedy is one of the main reasons why countless American women have never had an orgasm during intercourse, and if shamed away from masturbation, have never had an orgasm at all.
So what’s really going on here? There’s an orgasmic economy that’s very unequal. The untrained man is quickly overwhelmed by stimulation while his female partner is consistently underwhelmed. The man gets off and passes out leaving the woman teased and dissatisfied. This cycle repeats again and again until they cheat, divorce, or die.
Balancing sexual energy requires increasing duration and can be achieved with a variety of trained/practiced techniques and fundamental understandings.
For sexual union to bring both male and female partners into altered states of ecstasy, this balance has to be achieved.
Because of the physiological differences between women and men, it’s easy for a man to simply get aroused physically whereas a woman’s arousal originates from a deeper place physically and spiritually. It’s like building a camp fire, it has to be done according to certain principles. If you light a match and drop a log on it, it won’t burn, you have to take the time to make the perfect little nest of tinder, build a perfect cone of kindling, and in stages build up to a roaring fire.
The problem with most men is that we’re not aware of this because, it’s not required for us to climax. A minimum 30 minutes of intercourse is a lot to ask as many men can’t survive the intensity of stimulation more than a few minutes. Or if they can last for 30 minutes or longer, if their heart isn’t present, they’re not going to bring their partner to climax, hence the faked female orgasm.
Without becoming distracted or anxious by having a goal to perform perfectly, couples can work over time towards the ability to increase duration and heartful presence.
The real goal should be to focus full attention on your partner and the pleasure itself, it’s only with this full presence that the doors to higher dimensions open. However many men regularly project their attention elsewhere and thus never let their full energy, spirit, and consciousness fill up in the moment. That’s truly what builds female arousal, the physical aspect is secondary to this primary need.
With the understanding that in order to “satisfy” a woman, a man must last longer, what can he do? One way to visualize male physiology is to imagine a circuit breaker. When the circuit is overloaded it breaks and the lights go out. Ever plug in too many appliances at once, and everything shuts off and you’re standing there like a fool in the dark? Welcome to the bedrooms of millions of couples across America.
A man has to learn to distribute the high-voltage current throughout his whole body, this is the only way he can survive the intensity. First he must know that it’s possible to withhold ejaculation yet have multiple and continuous full body orgasms. Many men haven’t ever been introduced to this idea. In many cases, masturbation in adolescence was done quickly, secretly, and in a state of shallow rapid breathing under the stress and fear of being caught. That doesn’t set up a good neuro-physiological template for long, relaxed, sacred love making later in life.
Once the idea is learned, the art and science has to be studied, practiced, and mastered. There are many books, websites, videos, classes, etc. on ejaculation control, or as some people like to say ejaculation “choice”. Just Google multiple male orgasms, Taoist Sexual Kung Fu, and Tantric Cobra breath.
Another training technique that both men and women should do on a regular basis is kegel exercises where you repeatedly contract the “PC” (pubococcygeus) muscles on the pelvic floor in various intervals. They’re the same muscles used to stop the flow of urination. If you haven’t identified them, next time you urinate, do what you normally would to stop the flow and you’ve found them. When men regularly contract these muscles, they condition the ability to withhold ejaculation by contracting them as the urge to ejaculate arises. For women, the main application of conditioned PC muscles is to create more tightness and muscle control during intercourse.
Going back to the sports analogy, if the man is distracted and caught up just trying to make the woman climax, he’s not fully present, not fully being in the experience. If a woman is feeling anxiety because she wants to force herself to climax so she can make the man feel like he’s not a failure, and protect his fragile ego, she’s not fully present and enjoying the experience. Yes the climax of both partners is desirable, but as long as there’s mutual effort put in by both parties to develop the skills to have a general equality of climax over time, it won’t be the end of the world if the male either loses an erection, or prematurely ejaculates during one session. So the goal should be to not have a goal and to just feel as freely as possible, but to have done the homework to make disappointment the exception not the rule.
Have fun, be safe, be sacred. You are already a God, you just need to train and condition your sexual Godhood so that you can rise to the built in potential of your Goddess.
Tantra as Punk
The universe itself was danced into existence. According to tantric cosmogony, Shiva (masculine energy) and Shakti (feminine energy) combined to create a balance of matter and spirit. We’re the living manifestation of that balance, though in this profaned world age know as the Kali Yuga, the balance has been lost and social and ecological crisis are the result of a rampant dispirited materialism. Tantra, the mother of all Yogas, was developed in ancient India as a revolutionary praxis to restore harmony. It was originally taught by women and was made available as a public resource that transected the caste system.
When I discovered the radical nature of tantric tradition, it resonated with my punk spirit and ethics and made be look at the alchemical caldron of the mosh-pit in a whole new way. Perhaps, punks were unknowingly and without guidance tapping into a deeper pathway to ecstasy, empowerment, and bliss.
In early 2009 I attended my first tantra class. The teacher had the group of about 40 strangers (half women, half men) stand up and do some yogic body movements to get their energy flowing. Then she gave a presentation on the history, origins, concepts, and applications of an array of spiritual tools to reach higher consciousness through self-love and relationships.
She stated that her background was in eco-activism and community organizing. I was stoked because she approached this spiritual work as a warrior goddess and hoped to empower the group to liberate themselves from and resist the negativity and programming of the industrial system. Further, she emphasized the need to clean our bodies and energy fields and to elevate our consciousness.
She then organized us into a dance where all of the women created an outer circle and all of the men created an inner circle facing the women. She instructed the women to evoke their erotic goddess power to love, heal, nurture, seduce, and be wild and primal. The women were to build this energy through their dance and give full presence and attention to the man they were facing. The men were instructed to not engage our genital sexual energy, but rather to take the building heat and energy produced through the transfer of feminine energy, draw it up through our chakra systems, and apply it to visualizations of our highest self-transcending purposes. The exercise was intended to give women a safe space to really cultivate their sensual/sexual energies and apply these energies to heal and empower the men. This helped the men get beyond our base sexual desire and selfish egos and apply divine energy towards positive trans-personal transformation.
At first there was a lot of awkwardness and tension, but the teacher did an amazing job to help people understand this was not about coupling, or even being turned on. The level of presence and energy profoundly moved the men. They all seemed to be entranced and enchanted, not with the individual they were dancing with, but by the channeling of pure inter-dimensional energy by the whole group.
There was no touching, just dancing, deep breathing and eye contact. The key for this to work so well was that every minute or so the teacher clapped loud enough to be heard over the music, and the women rotated to the next man.
There were people of all walks of life and levels of experience with this kind of stuff. At first there was unease but the collectivity of love, trust, and abandonment of ego and self-hood led to a melting away of fear. Eventually we achieved the dissolution of our social masks that we normally hide behind and trap our essence in. A deep sense of unity was established and the level of healing that started to occur brought me to tears. This may sound like just a bunch of hippies dancing at a drum circle, but having experienced both, I can tell you that this was radically advanced.
I was making a sacred connection with each woman. They all opened their hearts and gave of themselves and the universe with such authenticity and purity it felt like making love to the cosmos, experiencing the goddess and being a god. Not just symbolically but experientially. It was a real felt experience: the presence of surging, flowing, electrifying, energy filling my body and giving me a tangible sense of spirit. I was able to work with it and direct it through my body, through my mind, my visions, and my intentions. Everyone was in tune, doing the same thing to create a sacred vortex of divine energy. If you don’t like the word “spirit”, simply “energy” will suffice. What we were being guided to create was a field of energy that was generated and charged by dance and connected with and channeled through the conduits of eye contact and breath.
It was so awesome to see the depth and richness grow and to see the men and women slowly let go of their shyness. It was a multilayer journey that started with a building up of fiery animalistic seductive energy, then moved towards a totally healing nurturing compassionate gentle maternal energy. The teacher kept people engaged, focused, and directed in their dancing and intention. By just saying a word, she was able to change the character of the entire room’s energy; you could almost see the colors change in the auric fields.
At the heights of the dance, each breath I took in, as my eyes were locked with a dancing woman, was like taking a hit of some kind of potent third-eye dilating drug that sent energetic shock waves through my entire being. As I danced, I felt what one woman described as the “sculpting of auras”. She said at first she was just dancing, in her self, dancing with movements she self-consciously created but as the dance evolved, she began to move in currents and patterns that were totally beyond her conscious control. She began to sculpt the male aura in a loving and healing way.
After the female to male exercise, the roles were reversed and the males were put in the outer circle and instructed to attempt to impress the females. This was really comical and challenging for many of us. The dominant culture teaches men that to impress a woman, one must offer a display of alpha male machismo, financial wealth, and/or social status. Without being able to pull up in a fancy car, act tough and intimidating, or appear to be of high rank, for the first time a lot of the guys were left with only their ability to speak through their eyes and dance movements.
We looked like a bunch of fools, but in time, energy from beyond our conscious minds began to animate us into sacred geometric patterns of motion that ended up becoming very much like what the females had been doing. We felt as though we were massaging and sculpting the auras of the females though with a more masculine type of energy. It was an exercise to bring forth the positive, constructive, creative masculine traits and create space to cultivate male strength and power in a nurturing and giving manner, not in the so often culturally conditioned hostile taking manner.
After the dances, the group did a series of chakra clearing exercises based on ancient Egyptian martial arts. It was basically a series of striking movements combined with breath and visualization whereby each strike is designed to break through and throw out blockages in our energy systems. It felt like a sort of DIY self-exorcism.
We closed the evening with a discussion of how we felt, and what we had experienced. After we all expressed how profound and life-changing the dancing was, the conversation moved in the direction of confronting patriarchy by using sacred traditional ways to restore balance. It was clear to all of us that the sacred feminine (which had been honored in prehistory but violently and systematically suppressed world-wide over the last 5,000 years) is never more than a few breaths away from all of us. As an energy it flows through all of us whether male, female, queer, straight, or any combination thereof.
You don’t have to read a book and believe what prophets, saints, priests, and gods tell you to believe and have faith in. You don’t have to imagine divine energy, you see it and feel it under the proper direction. Ancient tantric culture developed the means to actively engage real power and energy that we now suppress and deny.
I think the gateway concept to get people to understand the potential of this kind of healing/therapeutic/empowering energetic work is to ask if they’ve ever felt energetic sensations in their heart area. Everyone has had crushes, and many of us have been heart broken. During those times it’s impossible to deny that there are energy fields and circuits that exist beyond our normal perception of the physical world, and are beyond the current scope of scientific instruments of measurement.
You don’t have to follow a religious doctrine to discover and work with your own energy fields. There are many pathways to direct your attention towards them and to develop and cultivate them as you would your intellect or your muscles. Sacred sexuality, martial arts, singing/chanting, dancing, meditation, and many other means are available. Less ascetic cultures valued and held sacred the ability to transcend the normal waking state and access higher states of mind and body through ritual practice.
You don’t have be a freaky hippie on a commune, a Buddhist monk, or move to India to start to reclaim these skills. You can do it yourself, and it can enhance any lifestyle and social identity you have. Yoga is a ritualized practice that has transcended almost every sector of society. I am now thoroughly convinced that Yoga’s highest potential is realized by its maturation into Red Tantra (sexual yoga). Imagine a sexual health and wellness studio at every strip mall between the karate dojo and the yoga studio.
Blazing a Trail
In my early punk years I had fully rejected all religion and without knowing it, all spirituality. Within the last few years I’ve been able to reclaim experiences of the sacred, without limiting myself to belief in religion. Our profane existence can become sacred on our own terms. I used to chant “No Gods, No Masters” but now I feel more like we are all goddesses and gods, and if we choose a path of self-mastery, we can truly be our own masters. It’s my hope that we’ll evolve new ways to access very old sacred experiences that will help us return to sensually embodied, primal, animistic polytheism.
As I’ve pushed myself to go beyond the mosh pit and learned to dance in other circles, I’ve found that there are many allies for social justice that I once dismissed as hedonistic ineffectual hippies. Now I feel much more whole and balanced and can experience the best of both worlds. Punks can benefit from being more spiritual, and spiritualists can benefit from being more punk.
The new age movement is often blinded by its obsession with the light, and overlooks the pain and power to be transmuted from the shadow. As much as I love the hearts, flowers, rainbows, and unicorns of the more hippie scene, I’ll never be able to forget the powerful rage that comes from confronting the dark imagery of the profane reality that we inhabit.
Conversely, the punk movement is often blinded by its obsession with the shadow. Punks often won’t wear clothes with any color other than black, won’t transcend the lower emotional vibrations and transmute the rage into love. Worst of all, punks are in their own words “born to die in the gutter”; disillusionment leads to disempowerment, nihilism, and self-destruction, alcoholism doesn’t help. I’ve lost two band mates to overdose, and many friends to suicide. If only they’d tasted the elixir of tantric bliss, they’d still be here, healing more than hurting.
Eventually we’ll be able to synthesize the two visionary movements. The artwork of Jeremy Clark does this for me. It depicts both the dark and bright aspects of the post-industrial future. I’ve dedicated myself to building a bridge by creating sacred dance music with punk song structures, lyrics, and intensity.
Another punk aspect of tantra is its inherent radical feminist attitude towards the sexual ethics of consent. Tantra is a powerful tool to empower the masses to end rape and sexual abuse. Tantra demands absolute full presence and consciousness for consent, for how can you worship the divinity in the person you desire to touch if you’re blacked out drunk and/or forcing yourself upon them? What does every male rapist and sexual abuser have in common? The lack of a system of ethics that prevents them from disgracing themselves and others through misuse of their most holy object, their Lingam (Wand of Light). I’ve launched the Tantra Task Force to bring the practical application of Tantra into abuse prevention and sexuality education.
My Initiation as a Healer
Over the last several years I’ve been blessed to study under and train with an array of modern tantra masters. In the process I’ve discovered healing gifts I didn’t know I had and many who I’ve worked with encourage me to become a Daka (sexual shamanic healer). Like most ancient arts be they martial, sexual, medical, etc. modern western commercial society has reduced the richness and complexity of the tantric life path into sessions and weekend retreats. Though well worth the price, my punk ethics drive me to liberate this powerful healing modality and make it more affordably accessible to the low income masses. I feel strongly that I must serve in the spirit of Tantra’s traditional roots and make it a public resource to be experienced at legally sanctioned Goddess Temples. My poem Permaculture Goddess Temples lays out a vision for an edenic neo-tantric future.
Close your Eyes, Breath Deeply and Visualize this:
In a deep meditation the voice of the Goddess whispered to me: “Ben, what’s the fastest way to reforest the planet?” I didn’t know. She gave me this vision: train the rock and movie stars to be tantric sexual healers then put them through a permaculture design course. They’ll get off the hamster wheel of divorce and drug addiction and naturally choose to use their sexual capital to heal the planet. Imagine the tabloid headline: Sexiest Celebrities in the World offer Free Lingam and Yoni Massages for Anyone Who Plants a Fruit Tree.
For hundreds of thousands of years, sacred practices were developed by traditional cultures to connect people to each other, the earth, the sky, the spirit world, etc. in a way that gave them a sense of place in the cosmos.
If something is deemed sacred it’s treated with respect, it’s engaged in ritualistically, and it’s done with full presence and undivided attention.
How many things can you think of that are treated this way in daily life?
Our synthetic reality is fast, disposable, cheap, easy, careless, thoughtless, shallow, sterile, life-less, devoid of spirit. Statistically for the average American, sexuality is the same. The average married American couple has sex for 3-5 minutes once or twice a month, and for the individual, masturbation is a sinful, guilty, embarrassing, and mechanical shallow pleasure. The dominant culture has desacrilized and commercialized sexuality. It’s consumed though magazines, tv, movies, and pornography. It’s sexist, male dominant, and exploitative.
We lack the sacred traditions to teach us about and train us in practices and methodologies to use it as a pathway to discover and apply divine energies in our lives.
So-called Western society has been at war with sacred sexuality for millennia. It’s committed global genocide and ethnocide not only conquer land and pillage resources, but to destroy any living reminder of what it was like to be free; to love the earth, to honor the feminine, to have reverence for animals, to connect to the divine through the body itself, through direct experience, through altered states of ecstasy.
Many of us have been traumatized by religions that have systematically eradicated the ancient universal spirituality known as animism where everything was alive and contained a spirit. Religions designed by murderous rulers of civilizations took the sacredness that lived in all things and all beings, corrupted it, masculinized it and shoved it into a few buildings, objects, and books.
When those who’ve liberated themselves from the torturous prison of patriarchal religion hear words like “sacred” and “spiritual” it often makes them ill. It triggers flashbacks of extreme guilt and shame, horrific visions of hell and damnation, of the absolute betrayal of love and trust by the family, community, and institutions that imposed the system of domination on their body, mind, and spirit.
Why would we want mix these toxic feelings with something wild and fun like sex? Is sacred sexuality about more rules, more silence, more standing still and being made to feel bad about everything that seems natural to a human animal, being made to cover our bodies?
No, it’s about reclaiming the sacred and the spiritual and making temples out of our own bodies to worship with and to be worshipped, as we are the human manifestations of divine energy.
Sacred sexuality is not religious self-denial and abstinent devotion to “god”. It’s not hoping to catch a glimpse of the divine by reading books in dungeons cloaked in robes that cover the whole body.
It’s about embracing the self and learning how to make oneself a conduit of divine energy. It’s not about the belief in the divine, it’s about the experience of it, an experience that’s not controlled by a ruler, a saint, or a preacher; one that’s not denied or persecuted by a clergy; one that’s not considered schizophrenic by the mental health establishment.
What is “the divine”, is it god, is it gods, is it a man, is it a woman, is it a man and a woman, is it an animal or animals, is it aliens? I think it’s all of the above and more…
My working definition for the divine is that which is beyond our untrained senses, is intelligent, and is more powerful, aware, and wise than we are.
By entering altered states of consciousness, human beings can transcend the limits of normal waking conscious and gain access to realms beyond consensus reality.
To me, it’s not one entity that I can name and worship, it’s an ecology of inter-dimensional beings, energy, and information that exist in hyperspace, beyond space and time.
Normally, our senses block out 99% percent of what surrounds us. Imagine that in the one percent of perception that we call consensus reality (the reality most of us agree is real because we can all see, feel, taste, smell, and hear it), we’re just one little tide pool, unaware that we’re actually just a tiny micro-ecosystem within the greater ecosystem of the ocean.
If you asked starfish in a tide pool what lies beyond it, one might say, “well, there’s nothing beyond it,” another might say, “what lies beyond it is all one giant singular being that looks like me,” another might say, “I don’t know,” and another might say “maybe it’s a just a greater array of diversity similar to this tide pool.”
Whichever one of those starfish you are, or your parents are, or your nation’s dominant religion is, one thing is universal: every culture that’s ever existed is absolutely obsessed with what lies beyond our senses and will do anything to try to explain it.
The difference between force-fed religious dogma and traditional spirituality is that one is a based on “precepts” and the other on “percepts”. In other words, divinity is described by elite religious leaders and the followers must believe in the precept as it’s preached about or depicted in words or art. Traditional spirituality is perceived directly through one’s own experience of ecstatic altered states.
In shamanic cultures, tools and techniques are cultivated over generations and students are trained to preserve and carrying on the traditions. Shamans help guide the members of society into and back from the spirit world but the point is for people to have the right to chose to access it and learn from it whatever they want, to go in as deep or shallow as they choose.
In the shamanic framework, the earth and the universe are alive and filled with beings that have dimensionality beyond our normal perception. The infinite cosmic drama is ever unfolding, it’s not codified in one set of rigid mystical stories. Of course there are origin stories, and other constructs that hold a peoples’ identity together. But the mythology is alive, it’s open to new experiences, new insights, new revelations. The truth can’t be crystallized, and it doesn’t need to be. Only cultures based on fear need the security of a dead world and universe governed by a patriarchal ruler.
Most of the shamanic tools and techniques that open up our access to the divine have been banned and outlawed if not destroyed and erased.
But all the doorways inside of us are still there. The now dominant culture just locked the doors and threw away the keys so we’d stay imprisoned in its dead reality. But they can never destroy the doors, never take them away.
How can we reopen these doors? There are many sacred plants and sacred practices that act as magic keys.
In the 1960s an explosion in consciousness expansion occurred, the introduction of Eastern philosophy, transcendental meditation, psychedelics, new forms of music and more all broke the American psyche out of its stiff, straight, coma and things were groovy for a while. But it didn’t last because people lacked the life-long discipline of real shaman. Experiencing the great beyond was recreational, inspirational, “trippy” and “far out”, some people became modern shaman to the best of their ability and with their own devices, but most people were just tourists without a map. They’d either get lucky and fall down the rabbit hole into Disney Land, or end up spending a “Night on Bald Mountain”. But the power to gain access to healing energies, deeper insights, develop rapport with other sentient beings, the ability to see the future, communicate with the dead, and so on, has not been reclaimed.
Sadly it seems that it would take many generations the after the collapse of modern civilization for any of its former inhabitants to truly regain these skills. Luckily there are many intact shamanic cultures to learn from today and many of them invite outsiders to partake in their ceremonies.
Our individual access to the other side is highly restricted, and the opportunity to explore it with the guidance of real shaman is remote but we still have a few powerful keys we can develop. One of the most powerful, effective, free, legal, non-drug induced means to access the divine is the cultivation and application of sexual energy.
Whether alone, with a partner, or in a group, ritualized, sacred sexual practices heighten human consciousness into some of the most ecstatic altered states. With the mixture of eye contact, breathing, energy circulation, relaxation, duration, build up, words, intentions, presence, focus, consciousness, etc. the doors will open to the divine.
Sexual energy is the most powerful energy we generate, when cultivated and directed consciously it can be a magical tool to supercharge the manifestation of our visions for the future, it can be directed towards healing diseases, it can be used to transmute negative emotions and trauma into positive energy and empowerment, it can clean the spirit and enlighten the mind.
Great sex is usually just thought of as a wild ride, like an amusement park without purpose beyond satisfaction, but why waste the power that’s generated when it can be used to reclaim lost magical powers?