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Seeking the Heart of Gay Tantra with Jason of Tantra4GayMen TPP289

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In this episode I’m joined again by the charming Jason Tantra, the co-founder of Tantra 4 Gay Men. He’s stepped up into a leadership role in holding sacred spaces world-wide and online for gay men to share in the glory of Tantra.

Please visit his website at:
https://www.tantra4gaymen.com/

About Jason:

Jason is the founder of Tantra4GayMen, and a pioneer of Tantra for gay and bisexual men in the UK. Trained as a counselor and as a spiritual medium, and after years of professionally working with male survivors of rape and abuse, Jason met Tantra in 2006. He immediately knew that his life purpose had become clear. Since 2008, with his husband Ingo, Jason has pursued his life as an exploration of sexual and spiritual liberation. He has done this by creating events and trainings that express this: Events where men who love men can let go, explore love, and find ways to freedom where sexuality meets spirituality.

Over 10.000 men having been through Tantra4GayMen’s work. Its two yearly Festivals are beautiful wonderlands where sex meets spirit, bringing together facilitators from the cutting edge of Tantra in a context where men can love men without holding back. Its Tantra Diploma offers a one-of-a-kind transformative experience for those who want to live Tantra as a path of personal development leading to total freedom. Currently, Tantra4GayMen is expanding these events into the USA, and Jason and Ingo are working towards their vision of a community of open, free, conscious and aware men that are happy and in love with the very world they live in and themselves.

My Non Verbatim Show Notes: 

JT: thank you for inviting me back

talking in preamble, how’s it going, not been great, 2.5 months, look what’s happened in last few days in your country, complete horror, the world for me just doesn’t feel like a happy place, talking june 2

TP: feel you on that, hard to highlight things, generally would have been positive, hopeful, tone of shadow around everything, do feel like this, anchor moment, wound keeps being exposed

tantra teachers, she talk about, start doing shadow work, wounds go deeper, generations, trauma, goes deeper and deeper

tantra/tantra4gay men, tool kit for these times

JT: gay/bi/queer men who love men, like other pockets of society, we know what isolation is, we get it, for me, never felt so isolated in childhood, early adult life, until found places I could be accepted, many years to fully evolve, understand realize I had choice about kind of person I wanted to be

this crisis happened, for me,

just panicked about men maybe living on their own, high proportion of our community live on their own, home, apartment, months, uk things starting to relax slighting, everybody still in lock down, no bodies going anywhere, world not happening as it used to be

in SF, about to do a weekend, rug got pulled out,

biggest fear, I didn’t want to hear that anybody in my community had harmed themselved because they didn’t know how to cope, first panick

performed a bit of a miracle

what I did, messaged, all my tantra teacher, and associated contacts and friends, not a time to talk about money, time to be in service, in the middle of march, created free special online program for all of community in the app

5200 members in app around globe, managed to get 40 teachers, over the 10-11 weeks free program, ran over 600-700 workshops, over 10000 participants, incredible numbers, need, incredible spaces

many different tantra teachers from around the globe, yoga classes, poetry, bedroom disco, quality of holding together through adversity

so many of my community, been affected in jobs, relationships, home, structures of lifestyle, wake up in morning, low level anxiety, teeth clentching

emotional state day to day roller coaster

free online program, migrated into subscription service, sparkly app costs a lot of money per year

giving away discounts, promo codes to make it accessible to everybody regardless of whether they can afford it

global collective community, don’t have to suffer on your own

even in times of incredible difficulty and hardship, don’t need to do it on your own

people want to love you, hold you, care about you

share with you through this experience

TP: beautiful amazing, redeeming, resilience of human spirit,

epicenter of the outbreak of politicizing the virus, can’t believe how much extra suffering and death being caused by virus being political football, fog of war

still see beauty of things like what you’re doing

diy spirit, deeply radical humanitarian, grass roots, deep bows to the architects of internet to give us ability to do this

applaud you, deep bows, foresight to build online community

infomercial promo walk through

JT: talk about before that, far more important than our sparky app

low day, low moments, stuck in my apartment in bristol, not interacting with anybody other than online, emotional roller coaster, beyond that, my belief in love

can even withstand what this pandemic, crisis, event though huge amounts of suffering, misery,

still believe in heart, strength and quietness in love, stronger than negativity, something about love

for me there was like how can we physically manifest that

role as human beings to be love in action

spiritual teachings, consciousness, matter, is our job as humans to find ways to be the truth of who we really are

in the ways that we are…with people and our selves

sometimes worry some spiritual practices very lovely, ethereal, inner, work needs to happen

but for me, truth is, how deployed, integrated, displayed, how they manage to catch behavior before they react

watch themselves watch what’s going on

bigger spirituality

often in my workshops and retreats, profound orgasmic experiences, literally feel like orgasm and universe, same thing, traveling through space and time, for me afterwards, the whole universe has fucked them or they fucked the whol universe

for me an experience, not the truth of what we’re really looking for

maybe had amazing love making session, 6 months ago, year ago, 5 years ago, experience becomes less embodied as time moves on

for me amazing experiences almost a biproduct of what tantra offers

ability to have profound amazing fuck experiences, but actually the truth of those, is how they were integrated into your life, moment to moment

energy, being, learning that your being is running the show, operating the show

for me, is the experience, is the truth of who we really are, actually one big orgasm, state of bliss trying to understand itself on this thing called planet earth

for me, bliss love, truth all kind of similar qualities of the same thing I’m pointing to

how we bring that down here on this thing called planet earth

climate change, 50-100 years left, real issues, people we put in power around the world

for me what tantra does, alchemizes, changes perspective, back to a truth you can’t forget, weekend of tantra, can’t go back, can’t undo experiences

humans, come a long way, quite a long way to go

TP: eco sexuality, eco spirituality, inherent in tantra, always love the way people express that, brad amberheart, poetic integration, exploring nature, planet, fabric of cosmos, deepest roots of tantric scriptures, attitudes people had to abundance of nature, abandonment of hierarchies of yoga and bramanism, ecological radicalism, tantra heyday, like berkeley 60s event, full circle to that

medibations visualizations seeing world leaders having a tantric dancer come and bewitch them, seduce them into shakti vortex, having them be an expression of that

electric jesus, jonathan talat philips, all these leaders, rulers, egomaniacal, one big giant snowballing bad mood, curse of dictators in permanent bad mood,

spiritual practices, moving, dancing,

tantra4gay men global synchronized disco

giving back, service, apply, deploy

if you’re doing tantra you’re probably producing net positive energy outflow, gives you extra budget to spend on charitable loving acts

JT: first part, something about, contraversial,

TP: tantraversial

JT: we end up believe what’s being presented in front of us is the truth, come to america often, friends, people, news channel on 24/7, caught up in story of what’s happening on tv screen, that is their reality, spiritual journey of tantra is being able to see what’s going on

and not necessarily needing to get involved with it, not saying we should ignore the worlds problems, understanding we have choice, choose who we want to be with things happening

gay men, generalizing, being a sexual being, didn’t know the word gay existed, knowing I was different wasn’t good news

at age of 18, if I could take a tablet to turn straight I would have done it

not welcomed news at age of 18

america, religion done a lot of damage to sexuality, expression

repressed, clamped down, never know, alternative way of being

celebrate

brad amberheart, good friend, love brad, such a poetic way, way of speaking,

the point I’m saying, for me, what I’m wanting to bring in tantra, vehicle for freedom, actually if you see an animal in the zoo, suddenly open up the gate, so conditioned, in box, perimeter, doesn’t know the gates open

same as humans, all conditions to live a certain life, believe certain things, don’t know there’s something beyond

don’t really understand human potential, have clues, but not fully understanding

for me, what I’m seeking to do in tantra is enable people who’ve had so much experience, intimacy, spirituality, multiple orgasms, becomes normal, being in a state of orgasm, becomes normal way of being, then look at the world

hold orgasmic energy, state of bliss, knowing, love, truth,

power in that, that no body can take away, no outside circumstances can ever move you from that place

is that the spiritual journey

know the truth of who we really are, beyond the experience being presented in front of us, then have choices how we want to interact, deal with problems, and things we need to deal with

TP: beautiful, promise of tantra I have learned, you can transmute pain, trauma, suffering, fuel for fire of pleasure, magic, prayers, blessings, creating ceremonies, reclaim, ritual, paganism,

talking about politics of the world we live in , curious, I’m not into politics, anarchist, idealistically, consensus, direct democracy

curious, have any ideas, notions about, leverage points of queer people, different political power, mission to initiate people with power, and to empower them with shakti, shaktipat, kundalini

possibility of everybody, leading from a place, smell a flower and have orgasm, continual compounding orgasm, lacking in political leadership

JT: my mission as if I can help men, that’s my audience, find the truth of who they are inside themselves, whatever their life is meant to be, can than manifest

if you know love, know your own process, I know when I’m reacting from fear, anger, a place of love, a place of conditioned value system, having developed that awareness, gives you choice, choice is freedom

poliitcal, structures that we have, not about choice, not about freedom

agree, many political structures, not interested in evolution of humans, different values, priorities people put above that

we are, I don’t know if we’re waking up to it

but look at history of human nature, levels of politicization, kept people living in certain boxes, frameworks

not okay to have opinion, think something different outside of system,

many countries around the world that have done that

I’m after personal liberation in side

know it so much, so powerful inside of you, what happens outside doesn’t touch you in the same way

a lot of men I work with, have many issues before can get to that

working through, in classroom as it were, men that are confused, lost, that are dissatisfied, men typically come to tantra because they’re unhappy with something, or know or believe there is something better

tantra deals with sexuality makes it an easier sell than a meditation weekend

TP: done a lot to lather up the orgasmic energy, lot of hope and positivity

to be fair to the path there a bit of shadow exploration I’d want to throw into this

something you said right now, how people find this path, really is small fraction

tantra teacher from south africa, put it well, if you’re on a crusade to try to enlighten everybody on the tantric path, I got news for you, basically its like, at any given time on earth, percentage of humans alive, spiritual seekers, very small, of that percentage the people who actually make it a few steps before turning back is even smaller

the people who do make it there, do their best to hide

build your temple on the highest mountain

other narrative, make it accessible, easier to at least get access to filtering and initiation

not be ripped off, raped, molested, abuse, financial abuse, fraud, spiritual industrial complex

cherish the work your doing

polishing gems

something came to mind, point of acknowledging beauty of these art forms

thread of tantric scholarship around notion that rama krisna, rebooted tantric kali worship, for a whole new wave of accepting of the dark goddess, sexuality, wildness, transgression of dark goddess energy of tantra, socially/culturally engineering to be more acceptable, orthodox households

scholars argue, he was a flamboyant gay man, devotees, I’m not the scholar, something for people to look into, interesting and deep study

when I’ve been exploring that rabbit hole, rama krishna cult of kali in tantra, one of the gurus of lineage, giving satsang, the people who show up at kali temple, usually there, in some form of despair, acute life event, or series of events, brings them to the feet of the dark goddess at kali temple, in shambles, at least there will be peace, there will be love

other traditions, sex negative, homophobic, have to deny parts of yourself to be loved, tantra temple bring whole self, baggage, sins, homosexuality, still get fully love, healed, peace

JT: one questions I’ve had, why do gay people exist, has nature fucked up and made it wrong, trans, gay women, all different permutations, humanity, labels, why do they exist

wonder, consciousness wants to know it’s truth in this density of matter, in every single permutation it can possibly muster up, no 2 humans ever the same

part of the exploration of truth is this planet, could be every single permutation of itself , so it can know truth at every level

love the fact that trans agenda has come up in last few years

everybody worthy of love, everybody is love

society needs to evolved, challenge ego, ideas, normal, okay, love does not discriminate

conflcts that go on for me, invitations go move into deeper stages of love,

america last 2 3 days, absolutely horrific, the way its been handled horrific, can’t feel love, compassion, apology

understandably people are pissed, really angry

feel whole situation needs to find resolution in love

politics, tricky ground, america has not answered a lot of social issues it has, people are pissed, angry, rightly so, they know there’s a truth beyond the structures of society

TP: on point, pretty moderate, things could be said more extreme, I’ve been on front lines of resistance, carrying a variety of different flags,

chills, people who’ve really hurt other people, seeking the heart of tantra

salvation for sinners, people who intentionally, sociopathic, harmful, narcissistic, if love is this vibration, give it a personality, hinduism, devis, deva, personalities, all pointing to ineffable vibration of love, om mantra, resonance, if you’re hurting people because you don’t know how to love or weren’t loved enough

tantric temple recalibrate love compass, do less harm, become a healer

JT: diana ross, chain reaction, we’ve seen that in different times in history, invitation right now, change more love to happen, other thing, always said in teachings, human beings don’t change from a place of comfort, always change from place of suffering, what’s motivation to change, if miserable, isn’t working, something isn’t right, questioning, what’s going on here

wonder whether misery is a good thing

original tantra, tantra I teach is neo-tantra, osho, his body of work, my teaching lineage, comes from work that he created, teaching for 15 years, evolved and developed methods/ideas

psychotherapy, large proportion in my work, want people to learn how to integrate, give words to experience so rest of body and being can integrate

original tantra, ingo, years of academic information, original tantra for me, born out of dissatisfaction, that said at the time that only people of a high class and men, were worthy enough to access spiritual teaching, and soul evolvement,

tantra, a spiritual journey could be accessible to everybody regardless of caste

spiritual journey available for everyone

original tantra, different rituals

often people think original tantra is the best, is the more authentic, more amazing, some of original rituals, vegetarian or vegan, hold a piece of meat for next 5 days, and see how we get on with that , as a meditation, don’t know about you but if I was going to sell a workshop with that as the primary ritual, don’t think I’d have many takers

talk about the tantra that I and other people offer is of its time, the tantra we’re teaching now is of its time, we need to learn who to be okay with sexuality, have relationships with our body, understand the truth about orgasm and bliss, deal with the crap that gets in the way of shame, judgments, guilt,

some methods about moving people through a spiritual journey of where we are in 2020

TP: totally agree with that, notion of intelligently consciously triggering yourself with transgression activities

aghori sadhu, eating from skulls, extreme deprivation, acts of rejection of orthodoxy

to your point on adapting that best intentions of transgressive stuff, bicuriosity, ritual container, what is it that’s holding you back from experiencing double love and excitement,

taking phobia, turning it loving ritual container, it your point, tantra as tool kit for adapting to repression of your time, mean something different to everybody of every different culture

difference between eating rotting flesh in graveyard, and piece of art that signifies, it, if it gets the job done, maybe you don’t have to do the life threatening things

Tantric Quest, book, description of his experience of encountering wild yogini, heart of transgressive, jedi training, she was his yoda, sexual initiatrix

are there gay tantra books for men that narrate that process of initiation, not necessarily with indian, gay man guru, that would be pretty stellar, book you give coming of age literature about tantra

JT: didn’t have that tradition in england, when we came of age, think it was a bottle of alcohol, the world needs a good gay tantra book, on my to do list, one day, when stopped manifesting and creating, moved on to the next stage, curious around how we pass knowledge on to each other, are books the right way of doing it

talking about that app, curating and talking about experience of tantra, practices, things you can do, a lot more accessible, absorb knowledge books v online

feel something should be recorded for the time purposes, kind of put together, the world does need a good gay tantra book, don’t think there is one, or haven’t seen one

TP: cliff hanger, just talking other day, did meet up called kundalini monologues, love idea of curating the online museum of gay tantra, website, database, ways for people to be searching content

JT: app, talk about spiritual things, have to go back and talk about business/organizational

TP: got 7 chakras to distribute that load,

JT: chakras could do with a vacation

app with developers 18 months, alternative to grindr, scruff, wanted to appeal offer, another way to do this thing called a gay life

different way than what’s being proported by different apps out there,

asked ingo, husband, co-founded/co-runs tantra4gaymen

went shopping, ingo, finance director, said I could spend some money, bought off the shelf app, 10s of thousands of dollars to run every year

for people curious about tantra, wanted to know more, also to me an online, loving, caring family, global

5200 men, mostly uk, usa, europe, astralia, south africa, click on members near me, find local tantra men, big news feed, free content, goes in dailiy, articles videos, questions, pictures, people we buy it from, shocked, our audience so involved, statistics off the scale

global tantric community of men, keeps us all together, profiles, messaging, members near me, topics, article, writing, recordings, could go on about all of that, all for free, easily downloadable in tantra for gay men app

TP: that’s so amazing, a lot of things are flashing for me, something niche, overexemplifies the technology platform

attention, marketing,

if gay men in the tech industry, IT, webdev, are they covering this app as a news item, free press/pr for fact that it’s breaking chart numbers, gotten people reaching out, wow I want to create a plug in

JT: could always do with more, gotta get the word, out, anybody’s listening has avenues for that to happen, I’m all ears

how do we finance, all functions features, free, want them to remain tree, launched academy, miracle, 40 teachers, premium subscription $25 a month, tantra love academy, inside app, 120 live workshops every month, collective of 40 teachers, each doing 2 or 3 workshops about everything

yoga, tantra,

really the best tantra spiritual teachers in our kind of community, offering workshops as part of academy each month

promo code, 1 month free subscription

TP: love and creativity from gay community, light years ahead, very impressed, super excited

bored and frustrated with apathy a lot of sectors in the straight world, more balanced, flowing, creative energy, queer communities, more invigorating, more fun, west hollywood more fun, follow the fun, get over it

JT: why do I do all of this, for me, it comes back to my belief in love, that is the ultimate truth,

vocation, dedication of my life, help men find that truth, or find their own truth inside themselves, thanks for having me

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The Bull Case for Bitcoin in the Covid-19 Era with Peter McCormack TPP276

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In this episode I’m joined again by my brother in Bitcoin and metal, Peter McCormack, host of the What Bitcoin Did podcast for a timely exploration of bitcoin’s many apt use cases in the Covid-19 era

Please visit his website and podcast at:
https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/

And find him on Twitter at
https://twitter.com/petermccormack

My Non Verbatim Show Notes

TP: if there’s one podcast you listen to, What Bitcoin Did Podcast

PM: thanks for the intro, love the last show we made, talked about metal

government vs liberty, misinformation

enjoying cooking, exercise, time with children, processing strange time

TP: echo of satoshi’s voice, I told you so, proving out every fundamental thesis, right now in super concentrated form, positive response, I’m not technical analyst, bitcoin still leading all of crypto, is some from of safe haven, hedge, uncorrelated, continues to show gains, best performing asset the history of money, selling points, or study points

PM: never want to go too far, one of most important things I did with bitcoin, about a year ago, stopped checking price, sold on my thesis, hedge against government fuckery, fiat dying, insurance against a lot of things, investments made, not selling any for 10 years, stuck with that for a year, doesn’t matter what the price is done, that said, if you don’t own bitcoin, never been a better time to look into it, do some research

at a conference, mass adoption, we have mass awareness, most people have heard of it, don’t have mass adoption for a reason, some reason they’re not buying, could be for a number of reason, weird magic internet money, reality is, over long enough time frame, always proven to be a success, scarce asset, limited supply value will always go up

governments printing money, us dollar global reserve currency, with everything happening now, weird government decisions, reason to question government/money, research bitcoin, if you think you need a hedge/insurance, maybe its the time to buy

TP: hesitant to be a shill, go out and buy, coinbase statements about 1,200 stimulus checks, don’t invest money, invest time understanding it, if you can answer certain question, andreas antonopolis youtube binge party quiz

like to see speculative hype energy to closing the loop of products and services, like New Hampshire, the end to end, real peer to peer, narrative, can’t trust government, can’t trust money, beyond hype bubble, use it for peer to peer electronic cash, more circulating

PM: wouldn’t put all money in anything right now, weight out risk/reward, healthy hold some bitcoin, some gold, some cash, some physically some in the bank, have a spread in case one blows up, in a bad way

peer to peer cash, strange one, white paper, has to be a store of value before medium of exchange, I don’t think it’s a death nail for people not to be spending, people may spend it, is it coffee, betting, buying a house, whatever people choose

what do I spend it on, buying people, donating, I get paid in bitcoin, I don’t spend bitcoin on every purchase, depends on user, don’t need to push any specific use case, find the use case that fits you, some people censorship resistant spending, investing, hodling, capital controls, people can find own use case, don’t need to push a narrative

TP: enlighten people about use cases in hyper inflated economies

meme coin, orange coin good, number go up, robust and healthy memes, strategies for people in different circumstances, bitcoin podcast, crew massage this notion of hodl plus, be a hodler, but when you can have gains that provide life changing event potential, paying off debts, not be in mind fuck, when do I take money of the table, if you can do something that radically transforms your life,

then notion of spend and replace, buy something with bitcoin, to keep it circulating, take same fiat amount, place a trade try to get a discount buy, or just a market order, spend and replace

PM: number go up is a great meme, meme so important, bitcoin plays on human greed, get wealthy, buy something new, save for a future, capitalism is about green, desire to make more money, it’s what makes a capitalist economy tick, engine drives efficiency, desire, number go up is a great meme, truly works

however good the meme is, the reality is, how much does it suit you

Venezuela, hyper inflation, 90-5percent people can’t use it, people living on $5 a month, high transactions fees, fluctuation

but if you’re middle class or upper class you know you need bulivar, but don’t want to hold your money in it because it’s getting inflated you can hold bitcoin

Argentina, people used to having money seized

memes are memes

need to buy in to what bitcoin is, find a use case

TP: you’ve done a great job bringing light to the case of ross ulbrict, helping people understand, bitcoin was bootstrapped by the silk road, still to this day majority dark markets are still using bitcoin, not monero, not any other altcoin, or shit coin

your personal story of your mother’s need for medicine

PM: mom had cancer, wanted to get her cannabis oil, illegal in uk, had to buy on dark market with bitcoin, great case study, gave me the option, option of buying cannabis oil, based on morality of government, uk can’t buy it, illegal drug, bullshit, don’t care what government thinks, treatment for my mother, 3 tools bitcoin, tor, plus the website, enabled me to buy treatment for my mother, get around bullshit of government. Other people want cannabis oil for treatment, could be for somebody suffering from anxiety, child with epilepsy, whatever, enables to buy for treatment

victimless crimes, government wants to punishment, great thing about bitcoin allows you to get around that bullshit

TP: of all critiques of bitcoin, I appreciated what Edward Snowden said, potential existential threat to bitcoin, tracking, not fungible

interview with chainalysis, people believed in pseudoanonymity

jameson lopp could give primer on how to go dark with best practices to do transactions, now with more spot lights on you, vpn, tor, always a moving target, advise people on staying private

PM: if you’re a tech nerd, proficient in computers, understand all of this, you can set up perfect privacy, tor, you can still leak out information, easy to make small mistake, perfect privacy is really hard, some people can figure it out, I can’t I know I’d make mistakes, I don’t know how you could do it, lot of work, waiting for day when it’s all abstracted away

TP: could you explain trade offs, trust minimized digital currency across the internet, intro series that just came out

PM: as soon as you use an exchange, KYC you, attached to your identity, you can use coin join, tool allows you to essentially anonymize your coins, gets super technical, beyond me, pretty sure you can coin join coins, problem, you try to move them to certain services, they’re gonna block you, flagged as something companies don’t want to deal with

most important thing you could do is a set up an anonymous wallet, buy bitcoin for cash on the street, you can mine, it couple other ways, for common man, no solid easy way to have full anonymity

TP: it takes just one nanosecond of internet going up before VPN connects, run by an agency, local bitcoins, hyper regulation, a lot of chilling effects, in covid-era, a lot more black and gray market, medicine, food, contraband of all kinds, weapons for defense,

argentina financial collapse, not mad max over night, just encroachment of more crime, need for more security

grey market exchange, if government has their hands full

PM: best way to get bitcoin is to earn it, not attached to you, mining, meet in person, buy bitcoin, obvious and easy ways, but everything now is kyc, sad, annoying,

TP: I think earning is a great idea, of your studies, what are most compelling scenarios, how can people earn or do something that people tip you for, trace mayer, setting up own wallet yourself or with service

stories of how people earn it

PM: earning it, andreas, talks about, bitcoin you earn you really enjoy it, all I can tell you is you can do, you can create a wallet you get paid in bitcoin, I pay a lot of people in bitcoin these days, enjoy doing it, enjoy supporting economy, I don’t really talk to people who’ve done it, don’t want to dox them

TP: some of my favorite bitcoiners in the space, Alex Gladstein, some one very public, digest of feelings about his work, if you want to be donating to causes, humanitarian work, charitable bitcoin organizations

PM: Big fan of Alex, because of him I set up second show defiance, am now making films, human rights foundation, want to end tyranny, expose authoritarian states, cruely unleashed on people, lack of freedom you get, he recognizes over half the planet people live in authoritarian regimes, have no freedom, bitcoin opportunity to exit, vote out, might not have ability to vote for leaders, they can vote out of the economy, china, get around capital controls, turkey, iran, avoid hyper inflation, buy something you can’t buy

he’s taking bitcoin beyond that la, san fran, new york, london speculation, he’s taking it to people who actually need it

TP: one of my favorite guys to listen to, for the people haven’t really been down the rabbit hold, covid 19 era, understanding, can’t explain glossary jargon, economics, history ledgers, do understand simply, something you can expand on, what is soft money, hard money, sound money, should be household terms now we have government financial fuckery on steroids, created for money printer go brrrr, devaluing, flooding market with currency, like an insidious tax that never ends

PM: most people think of money as cash, pounds or dollars, survive day to day, don’t ever think about properties of money compare, bitcoin, gold, and fiat, analyze in terms of how good, grade them, fiat, pretty good, pretty fungilbe, portable, verify, easily divisible, problem its not scarce, when government needs more money they just printed, the more there is the less it is worth, dollar or pound value just drops and drops,

gold definitely scarce, bitcoin scarce only 21million, scarce gives more value, durability, portability, hardest money has highest rating on all these factors,

people will defer to the hardest form of money

if they keep printing fiat money, it’s not gonna end up good

TP: you can make all the covid 19, quarantine jokes you want until someone close to you dies, ways it’s impacted me 100% thanks to bitcoin I have a financial strategy that’s making me far more robust in these times than have just been bleeding money out and not saving and not holding, I owe a lot to satoshi and network

there’s a bit of a cynical chuckle when I see the government fail so miserably, so parasitic, comes time for them to give tiny fraction of bail out money to the people, consumers, how simple it would have been to press a button, bitcoin network, during 2017 bubble, multiple us states we accept taxes in bitcoin, well send it back to my address thing, they want to take fiat taxes, and bitcoin

the spirit of satoshi, ten years later, the need for it, and what’s been revealed about the governments

PM: views are slightly controversial, yes the government is completely incompetent, abuse financial system, print money, use to fight wars, stupid shit, all that is true, at the same time, are we ready for an entire economy based on bitcoin, I don’t think we are, technically not ready, not educated, people don’t really want to be self sovereign, father wants insured bank account, that’s reality,

we can get all excited, hyper bitcoinization, a lot of people don’t have skills to use bitcoin in that way, we’re talking about a parallel world,

still have to go from bitcoin back to fiat, spirit of satoshi is alive, hyperbitcoinization, maybe, seems unlikely, does give opportunity to vote ourselves out, government can’t stop you

more realistic about how that will happen, what are the steps, if it can’t happen what’s getting in it’s way, support ideas of freedom, taking down government is hard, people are conditioned to enjoy having the state

people live in democracy, are happy with it, I could be bitcoin cheerleader, fuck the government, take them down, have to be realistic

bitcoin taken us in positive direction

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TP: on realistic camp, I have my wild fantasies of crypto anarchy, sci fi, cyber punk, cypher punk, hacking the matrix, but it’s gonna be a multigeneration process, historical events continuing, white paper, functionally the systems we rely on, government incompetence,

chills I got from watching one of first andreas videos, called bitcoin guru, spoke in early days to financial or technology committee in canada, wrote powerful essay, indicted everything historically corrupt about currencies, explained, peer to peer networks, tool of the people has to be understood and embraced

do not underestimate this, governors of wyoming and colorado, crypto friendly , realistic, not so much about replacing all fiat, chopping head off government

but implementing math, computer science

are there actors within government or processes happening in regulation that you feel are validating and hopeful, hybrid between crypto anarchy and crypto-statism

PM: no, state just wants control

ban bitcoin in china, massive step to ban bitcoin in us, jobs lost, uprising, what can they do, just regulate the fuck out of it, dont see as nice compromise, they see no benefits, they would love to get rid of it, only doing this because they have to, don’t see any nice comfortable relationship government, they’re gonna regulate it

if it continues to grow and becomes a threat they’ll ban it

TP: you could say it’s parasitic in its nature, will continue to exploit and abuse, best arguments iv’e heard, if we had local governance, transparent financial ecosystem, community voluntary tax, people in community agree to give up percentage of wealth to help solve problems we all agree on, preventing child abuse or stopping people from smoking plants or eating fungus,

could you see models where people, in defiance of governments, we’re gonna solf our own problems not by socialism, or top down, but self managed mutual aid networks, making services of governments obsolete, crypto anarchism

PM: if they try to replace a government services, can’t see how that works, government allow it, doesn’t mean you can’t have crowdfunding project, raise money through bitcoin, replacing government will be very difficult, smaller voluntary acts, pay in bitcoin, don’t declare, micro shadow economy builds up, get into the realm of the citadel idea, sounds interesting, don’t see government saying yeah you can be autonomous

TP: Erik Vorhees, its about moving in direction fo more freedom and autonomy

PM: I think I said I can’t even picture this libertarian world, one of my issues its a great idea, but requires everyone to be a libertarian, might just be greedy with guns who just rob people, gangs warlords, assumption is everyone in libertarian society , everybody is libertarian

TP: not about getting 100% of night

PM: lets just talk about having less government, 5% or even 1% just move towards less government, are we happier, maybe, has to happen step by step

TP: the prepper fantasies, zombie apocalypse, new world order, red dawn, more plausibility to any number of collapse scenarios, apocalypse porn, people want security in an area no longer being heavily patrolled, bitcoin militia, more practical, farming/growing co-ops, new hampshire,

PM: do want to go out to new hampshire, really do, haven’t been out there

TP: really heart warming stuff, believe voorees was there, porq fest, full loop peer to peer off government rails, not the first time, hippie back to the land co-ops, time banks, local currencies, precedent for displacing government service

government will tax you and take money from you weather you like it or not, policing, city codes, impose rules,

other type, buy their services, make them obsolete, they’re taking money from you, don’t give them money if you don’t have to, buy peer to peer

timeliness and timelessness of this revolution,not necessarily hyperbitcoinization, moving towards less volatility more stability, belief that when the whales who are sucking up huge portions of the market, manipulate, pump and dump, flood the market, macro, financialization, potentially abuse of its nature, to create fractional reserves, leveraging, fuckery, as the little guy, retail investor, hodler of last resort, in major crash, black thursday, a few weeks ago, data that came out, really hopeful for those who are looking towards this effect, big whales get nervous, liquidated all assets into fiat, opportunity for commando hodlers to buy that dip and spunge up that supply tighten that drum, poor people mop it up, rich people don’t need it, dump it, every time that happens, one drop at a time, that’s what moves to towards more reliable, less volatile, more commoner, usability, we don’t care about the lambo

PM: care a little bit about the Lambo,

TP: used to have lambo posters, hack it make more eco, reliability, more stability

PM: forget about price, buy into the core ethics, the core idea, its an exit from government, the only money you can truly own and not be taken from you, you can hold it in your head, hide seed in your head if you memorizing, don’t recommended, can’t be stolen

buy into the mindset, play the long game, buy, stack sats, hold out for decade, see what happens, put in whatever you’re welling to risk losing, we don’t know when volatility will end

TP: paying premium for immutability, paying for security, time stamping, notarization, immutabilty as a service, what I’m gonna take away from this conversation, the most valuable thing for me, I pipe in a lot of podcast, hodler of last resort, want to have more tools to explain to people why they should participate in the movement, risk minimized, simplest way, say have you ever joined a club, not necessarily you’re paying for a gym you like the people, like twelve steps, you pass the hat, I have been in recovery have put in dues, if putting in the dues, holding the network together, hold a couple of chips, hold a couple coins, not checking the price everyday, supporting movement because its’ healing me, enhancing my life, I value the people, those moments of epiphany, hats off to you Peter, stepped up in a huge away, humanness, feeling of being a part of something, it’s cold faceless governments

when I hang out at bitcoin meet up, or podcast like yours, inclusiveness, solidarity, links, thoughts to wrap up, appreciate you being here, top favorite metal bands

PM: appreciate you having me on, two shows, what bitcoin did, defiance.news, made films, metal at the moment, Ghost Inside, been around a few years, 3 years ago, tour bus crash, driver was killed, drummer lost half a leg, last year played gig in la, flew out went to the gig, afterrmath, drummer new drum kit, plays with one leg

TP: hopefully we’ll take again soon and under better global health circumstances

 

 

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