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Discussing Religion, Permaculture, and Pandemics with Mike Kokal TPP260

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In this episode I’m joined by Mike Kokal of the End of the Road podcast for a free style discussion about the intersections of religion, permaculture, and pandemics

About Mike:

Mike Kokal is the host of the End of the Road Podcast which showcases an eclectic mix of guests working with ordinary and non-ordinary states of consciousness in the finite playground we all find ourselves in: “The Horizons we strive to touch but are already there.”

Mike is also practices civil litigation and is a patent attorney. His professional bio can be found at: https://secure.heylroyster.com/attorneys/details.cfm?attorneyID=90

The End of the Road Podcast, which is nearing 100 episodes, can be found here are wherever you listen to podcasts: https://endoftheroad.libsyn.com/

My Non Verbatim Show Notes

Current events strategy, don’t have a tv, don’t know if that makes me a luddite

don’t like to watch news, 24 hour news cycle on tv

I like bbc service, somewhere between bbc and economist seems to be much more objective than nbc, fox

haven’t compared statistics to prior outbreaks, spanish influenza, killed a lot more people than recent outbreaks

haven’t really studied it, the new social media interfacing with that, changing the narrative or not

happened before historically, originally had state laws for mandatory vaccinations, resistances to that, if we’re talking about martial law, court cases developed since then, in the wake of that

not something I’ve studied in any detail, precedent of state being able to dictate that you must receive this or that

united states in a lot of ways is the bread basket for the world, immediate needs we’re fortunate here, more or less self sufficient with oil

we have enough food, less fortunate countries dependent on outside aid, most drastic effect on economy

grew up in wyoming, canned goods, bottled water, everything came in was fresh

I guess I have not being participated in disaster preparedness

I started going to a church, come across the minister, civic groups, 99% african american church, minister, very thoughtful definitely get good vibes from him, last sermon on book of revelations of the bible, psychedelic adventure going through hell, fragmented snakes and demons, believes we’re approaching the end times

put on the clock of god, shed the trappings of evil, you could interpret that as to how our society is so removed from any of the basic hardships that most people throughout history have suffered

huge homeless problems, but what would happen if there really were systemic disruptions of service, how would be react, bring people together, honor and helping each other

I think just about every age they’ve always thought they were going through the end times

if the gates of hell our unleashed, revelation, sun melts thing, global warming, could be something to that

what does it mean to get yourself right with god, seeing life in more spiritual terms, brush with organized church in the past hasn’t been the best, a lot of truth in the original messages, reframe in a way that doesn’t involve rape

the trauma is all around us, some of us put up walls for one reason or another, so many people in the u.s. and the world in that predicament

it’s all around us, it is now, what do we do about it

all these people that are there are us, we’re sharing in their journey, it’s still there, what responsibility does that have, do we stock pile, prepare

maybe I’m just waiting for the answer, seems like there’s something, it’s right here, homeless problem right here

it’s been bringing people in the community together, everybody feels it

haven’t been able to fashion a long range thing, does put something in the air, spawned different community groups, whether we want to face it or not it’s there, there is suffering

affects you even if you live in a gated community

facinated by christian idea of service, the simple, the old mother teresa, franciscan way of serving people, see god in everything, go to the leper colonies, serve the poorest of the poor see that those people are god

very shamanic, recognizing, we’re all part of the same body, when you take care of the people who are the most needy,

there is a lot of overlap in the fundamental christian messages and the shamanic messages that are very powerful

humans are always looking for that new thing, speaking more to myself, grew up in catholic background, new appreciation by shamanic means, entheogens,

we think we’re discovering something new, but just going back to where we’re starting from

love, peace, service, basic messages, a lot of mainline christian groups in united states, a lot of beauty in that

I have this knee jerk reaction, the church doesn’t let women participated in the priesthood, or priest telling me what to do

messages in scriptures a lot of practices beautiful

what kind of messages really resonates with me

what I think is appealing to some of the shamanic messages, why I think they’re getting more popularity in this area

when you do a medicine ceremony, shaman isn’t telling you what to do, they’re just singing a song, the icaros

if you were a leader of a church or something, not so much be pedantic, or even thinking you have a flock, that you need to pastor to, within yourself you create this music, not so much the content, but the love and the energy, such a beautiful metaphor for future leaders

not worry about telling people things, but rather just serving people, creating the music to foster people’s positive energy

seeing the god in the other person, the god within you

shouldn’t single out priests, even somebody like us on a podcast talking about stuff

struggling with in my own life, what is my truth, what is my messages, what is my song, why am I doing this podcast

started off, interested in interviewing other people, socratic method, listening to them talk, asking them questions, within interjecting my own anything, what exactly is our role as a person

two daughters, what do I tell them about how to act, do I tell them no you shouldn’t do this, how do you convey the message in your own family

just create your own song that makes people want to join in on your song, not projecting energy outward, oh I have this truth and you need to see it to, more intangible, its an energetic thing almost

I still like to go to churches to hang out and feel the energy

if you’re in a concert, when you have a group of people sharing, all able to participate, not just one person lecturing, everybody passing around the rock, participate in the dialog, share something important to them

with social media, increased connectedness learn to capitalize on that and bring it together allow people to share their own voice, without the old model the priest was leading the flock, politician leading the flock, everybody

for me its an energetic thing, not so much based on content, there is a role that you do have to say something, not just it, when I was doing zen practice, go in for an interview with the zen priest they ask you coans or different things, always one response is silence, I always kept getting prompted to say, what is your voice, can sit there a bump on a log, its your life, participate in a meaningful way, you’re not gonna reinvent the wheel

part of my practice is to become more grounded, what better way to ground than in the ground, your shit is interconnected to everything, reconnecting you to the universe, you’re not separating from it, your shit is a fertilizers that grows the food you eat in a wonderful cycle

a lot of my practices are to intentionally reconnect myself

priests, men of god, good intentions, I just had the feeling the church as a whole was resisting reconciliation with victims, law suits, that’s the way our society deals with these transgressions

it doesn’t solve the priest trauma, that they obviously experienced to propagate more trauma on the victims if the church would admit it’s fault

that really should be the mission of the church, priests are part of the divine, victims are part of the divine, perpetrators, victims alike, not to shield themselves

just say my heart goes out to everybody in that trauma cycle

Peace Magic and Truth Healing with Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern TPP249

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In this episode I’m joined again by my favorite Tantric scholar Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern for another adventure in tantric studies.

About Thomas:

Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern B.A. (Hons.) PGCE. D.SC. (Hon), PhD. is a philosopher, historian, teacher, poet, author, lecturer, musician, thinker, educator, consultant and peace studies specialist. His academic background includes degrees in European and world history (with political philosophy) and religious education, plus a long period of intense personal study in philosophy, religion and the history of ideas – together with over 30 years teaching experience in the same fields. He has also trained and practised in conflict management within communities and schools, specialising in multifaith and multicultural mediation. He is also a trained and experienced teacher in secondary schools, specialising in philosophy, religious education, history and citizenship studies. He was awarded his PhD from the University of London for a thesis which explores the history of the search for peace from 1945-2001 and which proposes a new field of historiography, Transpersonal History, as the best way to establish a rigorous discourse on peace among rival and contending spiritual and intellectual traditions, currently battling for hegemony on the planet. He is an expert in research techniques and methodologies on all aspects of history, religious studies, the history of world philosophy and transpersonal psychology. He has lectured in peace studies, philosophy and religious studies for many years at the Universities of London and Oxford, and has spoken twice at the UN Headquarters about the role of Universities in changing the climate of fear and violence on the planet to one of trust and wisdom-seeking. He is a founder and coordinator of International Philosophers and Historians for Peace and has worked with philosophers and intellectuals from many countries worldwide to help establish intellectual and spiritual networks for peace and goodwill. In 1990 he was elected in Moscow as Coordinator of International Philosophers for Peace, a specialist body of philosophers worldwide searching for peace and international understanding.

He is Director of the International Institute of Peace Studies and Global Philosophy (IIPSGP) which works across many academic fields to bring together all those with an interest in and a commitment towards the study of peace and philosophy on all levels of the personal and global and to applying the qualities of love and wisdom to the resolution of the problems and tensions of today’s world. IIPSGP arose out of a feasibility study which Thomas undertook for the University of London into the proposed establishment of an Institute of Peace Studies (from 1989-1992). IIPSGP now operates as an autonomous Institute with members scattered worldwide. Thomas is also Founder of The Global Green University, which has arisen from the work of IIPSGP and was launched in 2000 as a pilot project in complementary higher education, to bring into being a new global higher education initiative which can provide space for the deeper kind of learning which we believe is needed at this time of critical transition in the history of planet earth.

Thomas has developed long term educational programmes to widen understanding of the causes of conflict and approaches to peace and to assist social and cultural development. He has also created, (in association with the Gandhi Foundation and the World Conference on Religion and Peace), the Multifaith and Multicultural Mediation Service. The M.M.M.S. is the first mediation service to specialise in disputes in which issues of faith and/or culture are present. He has also served as an educational adviser to numerous organisations including the UN and UNESCO. He has travelled widely in India and has visited 8 times, travelling throughout the country and meeting academics and spiritual seekers. He has extensive knowledge of Indian religious and philosophical teachings and has proposed the formation of an Indian Union Mediation Service to prevent conflicts in the entire sub-continent. He is a lay member of the Anglican Church, as well as a practicing Druid elder, Qabalist, Sufi, Yogi, Tantric and universal mystic with an extensive knowledge of all world religious and philosophical traditions. He served as educational director of the Gandhi Foundation with the late Surur Hoda, and as Secretary General of the World Conference on Religions and Peace (UK and Ireland) from 1990-1997 attending and contributing to many of its international conferences in Rome, Vienna, Sweden and Paris. As an ecumenical esotericist and universal mystic, he has also spoken at Theosophical, Anthroposophical and other esoteric organisations and networks worldwide, and helped convene the Network of Wisdom Schools at the Theosophical Society headquarters in London in 2000 for Sancta Sophia Seminary. He has spoken in Edinburgh to the Edinburgh International Festival For Middle Eastern Spirituality and Peace on several occasions, running a workshop there on the Esoteric Dimensions of Peacemaking in the Middle East, focused on his book The Qabalah Runes. He has lectured in the USA on various occasions, including at Sancta Sophia Seminary, as well as at Findhorn in Scotland and the Edinburgh and Israeli Theosophical Society.

Please visit his websites at:
https://thomascloughdaffern.wordpress.com/about/
http://www.educationaid.net/
http://globalgreenuniversity.com/

 

LETTER FROM EUROPE – by DR THOMAS CLOUGH DAFFERN – MARCH 2020

I was asked to supply a monthly update from Europe on developments in peace, nonviolence and geopolitics etc. Here, we have been watching events in India unfold with some perplexity. Since I was recently in Delhi for the International Conference on Peace and Nonviolent Action that Rajasthan Patrika reported on in December, I thought I would supply an update. Our Youth Wing, for the World Intellectual Forum, that we set up in Delhi, recently issued a declaration that is important, regarding the recent chaotic street battles in Delhi, that bring so much sorrow to all who love India here in Europe and throughout the world. Therefore I hope that readers of Rajasthan Patrika might like to see what we said.

DECLARATION ON NONVIOLENT INDIA – WORLD INTELLECTUAL FORUM – YOUTH WING

In December 2019 we founded in Delhi, the World Intellectual Forum Youth Wing. This was during the International Conference on Peace and Nonviolent Action organised by Anuvibha, the international Jain peace organisation founded by the late Jain Saint Acharya Tulsi, based in Jaipur, which works for a nonviolent world. Already in December some restlessness on the streets of Delhi had started as a result of the Citizenship Amendment Bill legislation. Now in February 2022 the situation is escalating, Many people in Delhi are scared that unless this violence is stopped it will only get worse and worse. We are reminded of the tragic riots that happened in India when the British left in 1948 and rioting like this between different religions broke out in Calcutta. It only ceased because Mahatma Gandhi had the courage to go there to fast to the death unless it stopped. Fortunately Muslim and Hindu leaders were able to get their people to stop fighting with Gandhi to lead them.

So now, in February 2020, on behalf of the Youth Wing of the World Intellectual Forum , we want to say to our dear friends, young men and women and teenagers of Delhi (and other citizens in India) that

1) we are all first and foremost human beings – whether we are Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Christians, secular, no matter what party we belong to, or what God we pray to – so let us treat each other always with respect and reverence and kindness

2) It is vital for young people to break the cycles of violence that we inherit from the older generations. Let us not perpetuate these outmoded wars between Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Christians etc that have been going on for millennia. Ours is a new generation and we have the power to begin the world anew, to start a new story, of peace and prosperity in India, if only we refuse to be recruited to these old narratives. Let us instead respect all religions, and let us study together their pitfalls and their glories, just as Akbar did in his days, or theosophists did in the time of Mahatma Gandhi. This tolerance and great mindedness is the true India we know and love.

3) The vital genius of India’s contribution to the world’s civilisations has always been in her philosophical depths – in Sikhism, in Jainism, in Buddhism, in Hinduism, in Islamic Sufism,, in theosophy, in Gandhi’s ahimsa movement etc, and this is the India we wish to reawaken and therefore we appeal to the young people of Delhi – Let us not get involved in these conflicts on our streets ! These are not our fights. Our fight is the true inner jihad towards knowledge, towards wisdom and towards true love. We can show our dislike for the government laws such as the Citizenship Amendment Bill nonviolently, by out-thinking our political elders, and coming up with better, more peaceful ideas.

4) We appeal likewise to the police and the army – protect the weak and innocent and do not take sides. In communal violence like this everyone is a victim, so you must be scrupulously neutral and try and stop all the fighting. The state of Indian is by law a secular state with the judges, police and army sworn to uphold the rights of all Indians to go about our daily lives in peace and safety. We appeal to your as professionals not to make this situation worse but to smooth over these difficulties and restore peace.

5) We appeal to the government of PM Modi likewise to cancel his order of 3 billion dollars to the USA for weapons and killing machines and instead, use this money for peace education, nonviolence training, for putting classes on mediation and consensus building and civic awareness into every school in India. Let our children and young people learn about the glories of each other’s’ spiritual and intellectual heritage – let us be proud of the generations of great scholars, saints and sages India has produced in all faiths – and let us not allow a climate of fear, distrust or racial or religious superiority to creep into our national character.

6) At our founding conference in New Delhi we heard from leading experts of nonviolence education and training that there is way for people to learn to overcome violence. Experts came to India from many countries around the world and shared their practices and expertise. We want the youths of India to learn these skills, how to master difficult emotions of vengeance, hatred, jealousy, fear etc. and how to replace them with love, compassion and skinless – and this should be for all Indians, whether we are Muslim, Jain, Sikh. Zoroastrian, Bahai, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, secular or whatever. Peace is the birth right of everyone on earth and everyone in India.

7) We urge that the government of India therefore authorises training in nonviolence as part of the educational right of every Indian school and university student – and we pledge to work with young members of all political parties in the Indian parliament to make this happen. We urge that an emergency meeting of MP’s take place in the Raj Sabah to hear from us and listen to our demands that India restore our default position of peace-ability. We used to be the mecca of the world for all who love nonviolence, and this violence on our streets now is shaming our heritage and our true good name.

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

6 months since we spoke, a lot going on

comparative philosophy, see the job as medical doctor, very interested in medicine

tantra, buddhist/hindu argued before we can reach enlightenment we have to have health

enlightenment is spiritual health

planetary outbreak of dis-ease

ease is health, got this disease going on

occupied with coronavirus outbreak, from metaphysical perspective

tantra mutual healing

never gonna get healing unless we get through

tantra, tan = extension, tra = truth

truth is the transcendental principle that unifies opposites, also in word three

when conflict, the third principle, the threesome goes beyond and creates truth

situation on planet, all these conflicts,

watching impeachment

britain totally polarized over brexit

deli, we think of india as a place of tantra, love, but rioting gangs of youth

metaphysics of tantra, the transcendental reconciliation of opposites

problem on planet, politicians not capable of telling the truth

truth is whatever advances there party or position or keeps them in power

suffering from a truth deficit

chinese outbreak, wuhan

mainstream documentary, australian television had a crew in wuhan, outbreak of corona virus

interviewed people, documented outbreak

what’s revealed is pretty shocking

first case december 1st, thought normal pneumonia, then a few doctors realized a problem, lots of cases, more than normal

created a chat forum, people started dying, realized it was serious

tried to share case histories, secret police came in and arrested the doctor

clamped down on sharing of information, suppressed it, delayed medical response

police tried to sweep it under the carpet

not gonna get healing unless with get truth sharing

china, truth is what the party says

whole thing began to spiral out of control

documentary on youtube

1000s of cases started coming, people just lying down on the street to die

filmed, like in a plague, whole city, size of San Francisco had to go into lock down, sealing doors, curfew, hospitals staff going crazy, full of patients, no treatment for it

documentary is scary everybody walking around with masks, people in white suits picking bodies off the street

that’s happening now as we speak

historical place of taoism, wisdom traditions for centuries

what caused it, it looks like, scientists haven’t agreed on this

australian team, isolated the virsus, done gene sequencing, looks like a virus that came from bats, it can’t come into humans, it came through a medium, another mammal, theory goes, meat market, somebody handled infected animal

what’s weird, virus is combination of two things, bat virus but spliced with something like the hiv virus, replicating faster than normal virus

man made, 900 meters from meat factor, research with other colleagues, someone in bio lab, selling off old meat, man made weapon, a biovirus, leaked into human species, now going all around the planet, find that shocking beyond words

the chinese scientists have to come clean about this, have to own up, sorry we made this thing, have to get together with scientists in the states

however this is the crunch time for humanity, if we don’t do the truth sharing, if they deny it

other theory this is just a random mutation, statistics of that are millions against that

no its artificially created, trouble is, society there’s a truth scarcity, we’re not getting the facts

live in total fear, that’s the kind of symbol of where we’re at as a planet

symbolism of these masks, afraid to touch each other, complete opposite, of sharing, loving, compassionate togetherness of truth

through truth

TP: peace with nature? Learn hard lessons, silver lining

TD: there should be such a huge revulsion against military industrial complex, this might be the catalyst for huge change in china, secrecy of communist state, ruling the people with iron fist, not allowing information to circulate, if it turns out they actually made it, cause for change in china

might be silver lining, there are brave people speaking out

story of how it came it be has been smuggled out of china

send compassion to all the people who are suffering

truth auditing of our own lives

of our relationships, are we with the right person, do we share truth with them

not contributing to that fog of lies

want to share a teaching, doing a commentary on a buddhist scripture, buddhist tantra was my open to all this in my early 20s, studying at university of bristol

quote from early scripture, translation, core biblical equivelant:

path to dharma, the essence of truth

basic truth of buddhas noble truth, our thoughts our mentation, arise out of impure thought, greed, who’s ever inventing weapons like this, they must be demented, horrible weapons

not it’s information warfare, each state invested in internet hacking against other countries, impure mind, if we go on doing that, suffering follows

that’s the bad news

we know that in our own lives, difficult relationships, whole of life takes on tone of suffering and pain, don’t want to go to work

we need to start to act and think and speak with pure mind, and then joy will follow us, as our own shadow

I would say to all the people who work in the defense industries, oligarchs, spin doctors, those are the demonic forces we’re up against, the only way to turn this planet around, is to apply the tantra of pure mind, that’s what I’ve been working on for the last few months

musing on how we can do that

I’ve just published a book, encyclopedia of druid studies, going back to paleolithic time, magical systems called druidry, handed down orally just like tantric tradition

3 volumes 11,000 pages, years of work

druidry and hinduism, kabbalah, tantra

latest research by academics and practitioners

William Jones, welsh scholar, went to Calcutta 1780s, head of legal service in Bengal, learned sanskrit, realized it was similar to welsh, latin, greek, persian, coined the term indo european

realized we’re all the same people

it’s been a secret oral tradition, the other thing that interested me, they were the peace makers of the tribes, when wars broke out they would try to mediate,

the magi, what I’ve been thinking about, what we need is a new branch of magic, which I’m calling peace magic right, all kinds of books on magic, different occult things, we need to apply all that to peace work

a book on peace magic, a lot of tantric type meditations, visualizations, drawing on that work, we need to get a whole new generation of people actually practicing, their own magical potential for peace, dedicating that energy to peace work,

that is the resistance of our time, against forces that seek to separate us

TP: describe a working?

TD: first book, 50 different practices, dealing with different aspects of reality, section on energy of animals, shamanistic way, earth elements, section on time, the magic of time, how you can work with that, sections on relationships, love sexuality, how you can activate through sexual experience

each one has got a key thought, an image to work with, an actual exercise, you can do with yourself alone, or with a consort, it varies on what the different practices are,

banishing ritual on nuclear weapons, drawing on black magic in a creative and loving way, heavy invocations

black magic in a technical way, egypt, people of the eye is black, black is a very holy color, black magic was the land of egypt

talking of alchemy, the founder of alchemy, egyptian lived 200ad, panopolis, south of cairo, holy city, studied all kinds of esoteric stuff, he put all this stuff together, invented alchemy, the black arts of egypt, wrote a book on the meaning of the alphabet, sounds, the mantric sound, the guru gives the initiate, absorb self into sound current, go into the sound current of the cosmos, these sounds come from the gods, we’re spoken into being by the sounds of gods

if we can purify our minds, we can purify this world

fallen into a dark dream, alpha conquest, all they care about is there ego, not their power over their own shadow their own darkness

TP: ecological romance,

TD: forest, fruit trees, france, people live very simply, little villages, hamlets since the 12th century, slow easy pace of life, I love rural france, still got that old magic, full of mystery hear

let me tell you a bit about what I’m doing in delhi, conference organized by jain community, advocate non violence, gathering of all different faith, hindus, leading educators in non-violence, a guy who runs a sustainability lab, people from russia

I was an academic coordinators, quite a high powered conference, tragedy going on, jain part of delhi, yet a few miles away protest, riots, asked what’s going on, learned that this is all to do with the indian government, citizen amendment bill, anyone living next to india, border lands, if they want to apply to live in india, they can as refugees, hindu nationalist ideas, india for hindus instead of mother land of all faiths

muslims protesting, making them not feel welcome in india, in india very advanced sufi traditions, muslim scholars who took zero from india, made possible all the maths that they use, fusion between indian hindu and buddhist ideas, sufi spirituality, singing

this narrow minded faction in parliament, anti-muslim law, 200 million muslims in india, started rioting in the streets, since I left that was a few weeks ago, it’s got much much much worse, running street battles, people being killed, hindu and Muslim mobs looking to kill

amazing, next generation, doing brilliantly, issued a declaration calling on youth, because it’s young people roaming around in mobs, they don’t know apart from violence, issued declaration, calling on young people to basically not inherit the conflicts of the former generations, hate, goes on and on and on, like this in ireland, it’s time for this youth to say enough, I don’t want want your karma anymore, I’m a planetary citizen, trying to elevate that violent energy into the wisdom

TP: post national, digital citizen ship

TD: citizen of the cosmos, nation, where you’re born, comes from latin, that’s just where you happen to be born, I’m a Canadian if you want, earth citizen

rebirth process, have to elevate our identity to a higher level, grow up, not quit with you on the planet may go down, earth custodian, go this planet for another hundred million years, this planet can remain as an incarnational field for human life experiences, it will become too hot, life wont be sustainable

if we want, we’ve got it for a hundred million years, gives us enough time to solve our problems

druid gave torch of liberty to america, loved the american dream we want you to live up to it

we believe in that torch of liberty, each generation has to re-light it, not give in to dystopian negativity, drugged up, to disempower us

intellecting

TP: magical offering

TD: nature is the great alchemist, doing the work all the time, that’s why buddha sat under a tree to reach enlightenment

final bardic offering

educationaid.net

 

Seeking the Soul of Local Tantric Energy with Reverend Priestess Sandivel TPP240

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In this episode I’m joined by iX-Chel

For a conversation about what she’s been up to of late, her new insights into male sexual continence and energy cultivation, her thoughts on sex workers’ empowerment, her upcoming retreat, and much more!

About iX-Chel:

Reverend Priestess Sandivel, best known as iX-Chel Sandivel, is an intimacy mentor and guide. An Elite Tantra Educator and former Nike Elite Sponsored Runner, she was born in Mexico City and raised in Southern California. She is passionate about creating safe and expansive experiences that allow the human spirit to evolve with ecstatic awareness, confidence and self-love through her mentorship programs, personalized retreats in the tropical jungles of Mexico and playshop events all over the world.

Though movement practices, cultural experience, tantric breathing techniques and ceremonies, Sandivel supports others to discover a profound, ever lasting and orgasmic love within.

Adoring the Beloved Within: www.sandivel.com/retreat

Applied Tantra with Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern TPP199

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In this episode I’m joined again by my favorite Tantric scholar Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern for another adventure in tantric studies. He shares a list of practical steps that the modern peace loving tantrika can take to apply theories and philosophies of ancient tantra towards holistic, sustainable, enlightened activism today.

You can listen to our previous podcast here:
https://tantrapunk.com/enlovement-and-enlightenments-with-peace-and-tantra-scholar-dr-thomas-clough-daffern-tpp146/

Please visit his websites at:
https://thomascloughdaffern.wordpress.com/about/
http://www.educationaid.net/
http://globalgreenuniversity.com/

About Thomas:

Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern B.A. (Hons.) PGCE. D.SC. (Hon), PhD. is a philosopher, historian, teacher, poet, author, lecturer, musician, thinker, educator, consultant and peace studies specialist. His academic background includes degrees in European and world history (with political philosophy) and religious education, plus a long period of intense personal study in philosophy, religion and the history of ideas – together with over 30 years teaching experience in the same fields. He has also trained and practised in conflict management within communities and schools, specialising in multifaith and multicultural mediation. He is also a trained and experienced teacher in secondary schools, specialising in philosophy, religious education, history and citizenship studies. He was awarded his PhD from the University of London for a thesis which explores the history of the search for peace from 1945-2001 and which proposes a new field of historiography, Transpersonal History, as the best way to establish a rigorous discourse on peace among rival and contending spiritual and intellectual traditions, currently battling for hegemony on the planet. He is an expert in research techniques and methodologies on all aspects of history, religious studies, the history of world philosophy and transpersonal psychology. He has lectured in peace studies, philosophy and religious studies for many years at the Universities of London and Oxford, and has spoken twice at the UN Headquarters about the role of Universities in changing the climate of fear and violence on the planet to one of trust and wisdom-seeking. He is a founder and coordinator of International Philosophers and Historians for Peace and has worked with philosophers and intellectuals from many countries worldwide to help establish intellectual and spiritual networks for peace and goodwill. In 1990 he was elected in Moscow as Coordinator of International Philosophers for Peace, a specialist body of philosophers worldwide searching for peace and international understanding.

He is Director of the International Institute of Peace Studies and Global Philosophy (IIPSGP) which works across many academic fields to bring together all those with an interest in and a commitment towards the study of peace and philosophy on all levels of the personal and global and to applying the qualities of love and wisdom to the resolution of the problems and tensions of today’s world. IIPSGP arose out of a feasibility study which Thomas undertook for the University of London into the proposed establishment of an Institute of Peace Studies (from 1989-1992). IIPSGP now operates as an autonomous Institute with members scattered worldwide. Thomas is also Founder of The Global Green University, which has arisen from the work of IIPSGP and was launched in 2000 as a pilot project in complementary higher education, to bring into being a new global higher education initiative which can provide space for the deeper kind of learning which we believe is needed at this time of critical transition in the history of planet earth.

Thomas has developed long term educational programmes to widen understanding of the causes of conflict and approaches to peace and to assist social and cultural development. He has also created, (in association with the Gandhi Foundation and the World Conference on Religion and Peace), the Multifaith and Multicultural Mediation Service. The M.M.M.S. is the first mediation service to specialise in disputes in which issues of faith and/or culture are present. He has also served as an educational adviser to numerous organisations including the UN and UNESCO. He has travelled widely in India and has visited 8 times, travelling throughout the country and meeting academics and spiritual seekers. He has extensive knowledge of Indian religious and philosophical teachings and has proposed the formation of an Indian Union Mediation Service to prevent conflicts in the entire sub-continent. He is a lay member of the Anglican Church, as well as a practicing Druid elder, Qabalist, Sufi, Yogi, Tantric and universal mystic with an extensive knowledge of all world religious and philosophical traditions. He served as educational director of the Gandhi Foundation with the late Surur Hoda, and as Secretary General of the World Conference on Religions and Peace (UK and Ireland) from 1990-1997 attending and contributing to many of its international conferences in Rome, Vienna, Sweden and Paris. As an ecumenical esotericist and universal mystic, he has also spoken at Theosophical, Anthroposophical and other esoteric organisations and networks worldwide, and helped convene the Network of Wisdom Schools at the Theosophical Society headquarters in London in 2000 for Sancta Sophia Seminary. He has spoken in Edinburgh to the Edinburgh International Festival For Middle Eastern Spirituality and Peace on several occasions, running a workshop there on the Esoteric Dimensions of Peacemaking in the Middle East, focused on his book The Qabalah Runes. He has lectured in the USA on various occasions, including at Sancta Sophia Seminary, as well as at Findhorn in Scotland and the Edinburgh and Israeli Theosophical Society.

Please visit his websites at:
https://thomascloughdaffern.wordpress.com/about/
http://www.educationaid.net/
http://globalgreenuniversity.com/

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Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 196 I am very gleeful right now because I’m being joined Again by Thomas cloth diaper and who is the director of The International Institute for peace studies and Global philosophy of foremost Huntress collar and initiated practitioner of a vast array of spiritual paths and above all a secret of Truth and we had a wonderful time exploring in Loveland and enlightenment’s with peace and loving and alignments on the previous episode that was episode number one for sex where we get more into his background and how I discovered his work and and mainly it I’ll say that it it’s the academic overview of Tantra video on YouTube that connected me with his work and I just feel very blessed that we’ve been able to 2 s pecan the podcast before in the past and now he’s got some new sort of bundle of insights and and wisdom is going to share in the thesis of Applied Tantra what do you do next after you achieve some of the enlightenment’s that are so so sad after and so we’ll get into all that good stuff yeah we’ll just get into Seventh Son was fun stuff and just say thank you Thomas again for joining us and how are you doing bring us up to speed with you again and Tom love you think of you all the way over there in California which I think we might have mentioned last time is probably descended from the goddess Kali in California is taken from a novel that was produced in Spanish if it was in the hands of the people that when they would stopping it at 889 this place California but do you know of Us 2 taking it from India so in the lineage of the land of Kali before the day that I I like to say that I teach out of what I call the University of California so you know right well I we also got a picture to to to connect sometime it’s an important I’m here we’re living in Kali Yuga I said let’s try and make it have a happy let me just stop with my female country what do I mean by that so as I said when we were discussing this before that time that’s what I mean it’s really it’s it’s a methodology you realize that I’m just likes playing gin in a suburb of the toolbox it’s it’s it’s not exactly a technology as Morrison of operational approach to achieving Enlightenment which is there many many practices many techniques a different time for teachers and production lineages emphasize different ones but what they all agree on this is there is so much okay that’s an endpoint that’s a goal which makes them coated license in English I think we should stop to her license and license because they’re different types of Enlightenment and I started a discussion about that I’ve written a book called in license while you compare and contrast indictments from different lineages different Traditions some Enlightenment sleeve you die without a body floating up in some Buddhist fear some Enlightenment sleeve you in a whole different Heaven World off this planet I think what’s me transfer does it mean to actually here now getting that leaves you in bodhi’s what I like about 10 chicken light much as it’s not antibody it’s not leave the body lets let’s embrace the wisdom of the body lets knowledge about it and then live in like flies so the question that arises what what do we do in and let’s say we relax and we’ve tried we practice time from the faulty as we’ve had numerous consorts we’ve seen into the eye of the blah bed and we reached some kind of indictment experiences and here we are walking the streets in LA or London or Paris where do we go next so that’s what I’m starting from that’s kind of a plaid Tundra that’s what I mean by it makes sense to say all this stuff I’m resonating with can I I love to hear Let me hear the way you’re you’re putting it together and in structuring it in that makes a lot of sense is it where do you where do you go from the point of a level of self-mastery and self-discipline and then being in the body being in the in the world and also being in Irvine and Dad Bagnell path is some people would say right away one of the things about some time to realign which is he’s not a selfish alignment holding this feel self it’s it’s for the benefit of the planet Liberation whole beans so I’m a kind of mess up my on a practitioner and I believe that in what have a marriage you accumulate whatever wisdom or like money looking like for your own practice the point is to give it away and then and then in turn those people give it away and then the end will give you the way I did in the end we become a plant cancel Planet so I’m going to spray some classical economy of Enlightenment what will a planet look like after we’ve done this where you know I’m sort of thinking ten steps ahead what will it look like I’m so that’s where we coming with this this I just replied okay so I’m well as I said in the beginning I was about sixteen or so different fields where I think I would like to flag up I mean you can probably think of you’re able I didn’t soften I misses a growing it’s the beginning of a conversation between us. So let me go for my number one then the tub would work through the weekend will make it as many parts is the number one point about Tantra is the along with a few I have a spiritual Miniatures on the planet but not enough of that not many of them translation of the Goddess has a sacrosanct we talked about this I think last time I’m in in many parts of the religious world end of the goddesses being totally Rick Mausam history and you know that’s how you gonna. Stats Temple worship. See you in a bit. Talk about it and I know that long ago in European in America and pretty much every country around the world people are being burned being go to switch because they’re being put in the Flames as which is so it’s only relatively Reese play that that you can actually come out and say no hey I’m going to swear if I am not expect to be stuck in the father still quite a few countries in the world where where you will be prosecuted and princes in Saudi Arabia visit apartments for the prosecution and persecution of Witchcraft and they say there’s a team of pirates and train people that go from house to house searching for evidence of being in a which evidence can be bunny a candle in the saying and I doing yoga or something but it’s like minimal which you can be arrested with an even kill so I’m not so anyone country they’re all the countries where this is going on so say when I say tempura sauce from the facts of the coldest it’s still at you know it’s still quite a dangerous path in some parts of the world which is why I think Christ’s teaching he said be as innocent but as wise as a serpent so you one thing you should do if you reach a degree of Enlightenment Sun you’re wondering when it’s a taken to want to do is you should try and stay alive which means that you you know sometimes you have to like to see me like you have to pretend not to be in like just to kind of gun with a hug and has a tradition in in Sufism and in other Easter Traditions whether it’s okay sometimes you have to do that I’m going to have talked about that and you sometimes have to like pretend to be normal. But I I think that if you’re clever wise it’s possible to to come out with it a minute you can call yourself an artist get away with a lot of people in and west of All American European on people now I’m quite sure I hate my Pro see how you can get away with quite a bit and if you’re exempt if you say if your if your poor your crazy if you’re rich you eccentric so you’re nauseous then you can basically do anything if you’re hard as you can break you don’t have to be rich if you can get away with being accessory muscle reality, not started in the sentence in that time trick mean you’re not far from where I’m based speaking to in France some of the very first Paleolithic awesome McCabe’s I’m off the door during area in in France in at thirty thousand years ago shamanic Arts animal style fits over a tantric and so I began in what shape I mean absolutely 100% so that is where all comes from and you know it comes from this word a word that means to interconnect things are is an Indo-European roots in the word reason and ratio and other things and it means joining you try spotless hundreds of words in English with Outreach and they will have something to do with interconnectedness joining us before the the tra on the end it’s kind of embarrassing oversleep up so anyway the fact is is number one for what we’ve got to be doing as tantric practitioners in an issue signing up for women’s rights this is one of them since the first area of activism to get into their many countries in the world where women are being with you still physically and mentally I just being plugged into a new campaign against in. Child Brides you know it’s incredible that we have to do this but but they’re all countries in the world where men older man come in illegally take nine 10 11 year old girl from her parents called her his wife and set her up as a domestic slave I’m she has no education she has no right to go out the house in case I know this is a whole different tradition went where young younger women O’Connell’s of pushing the temple and worship that’s different that’s what we were talking about abusing that that that female this and then the examples of countries in the world where any displays of erotic you know love by a woman or gold young girl is it still safe and sound control today fuel Court’s holding hands street with your boyfriend that’s what I’m kissing and being in the street let’s say you’re on a park bench overlooking see your film the court kissing you both get whipped for that like you know 80 Lashes in I discovered this is true in the United Arab Emirates family charm complaint Street to India I find it incomprehensible that you know just as a small bit of affection being Shine by Kyle or woman will result in this kind of violence and I think these are things we need to campaign on my role as a philosopher is the campaign philosophically so I’m working on a country on the cool ROM if you want to turn Graco Dry Ridge, traffic or explaining that it’s it’s this whole thing has been a misunderstanding and that’s you know a lot doesn’t actually and I want that kind of treatment for women so anyway that’s my first thing is no more violence to women and allowing the coldest to flourish and come out in every single barrel I have three daughters you know I tried to be a good father a nap raising children do you have kids I don’t I have been sort of a godparent to sort of co-parent community parent I’ve decided to reproduce culturally more than biologically actually had a vasectomy when I was 28 Aster SF you ill fated miscarriages and abortions and just situations in lower lower Realms of Consciousness set younger ages and where they were bad drugs involved than bad circumstances pretty much also felt that there was something something curse it about my bloodline and mdna and sort of the neurotic Tendencies of the whole family to where I felt I was doing Humanity a service by but I’m very much in dr2 a lot of phone independent, independent mother’s now and I’m working to give them a percentage of my income and sort of distributor on a triage kind of mess Urology to where there can be a treasury for women who are mothers who were escaping from abusive relationships with their quote baby daddies and for them to have the financial means and that the physical security and emotional support mutually to where we’re flipping the script on marriage and in looking at more of a binding contracts amongst independent mothers who can who can basically interact with with the masculine and with the men in their life in the actual flow of the way men operate which is it off and they come and go and so and then that could be taken a number of contacts you can be taken literally they come and go and a community center in and out of life so that the notion of I mean this is a little bit of attention but I will say that my in a my evolution of of thinking about patriarchy and the origins of family private property in the state and all of that stuff is that we’re in the book sex at dawn and the more research coming out about just that the human things that would be considered very suspect about the way we look at we naturalized monogamy and things is just like well if women if women were in collectives where they actually owned their property and they can grow food and they can grow their medicine and they could basically reweave that witch cult sort of fabric then the men would be the men would would be more like vulnerable males where they have to really offer something of value and they have to be on their best behavior to even to to get laid in so they don’t just have this carte blanche inherited patrilineal sort of dominion that they don’t even have to like learn on a generational basis it’s just like you’re given the power to dominate until press and every every in in the every woman is exploitable at whatever level of barbarism your culture is is remaining at toot toot to get away from that you and I really feel like it’s about empowering women financially and giving them Land Titles and giving them the resources that means to like build moats around their communities in negotiate very very strategically how they want and how they allow men to have the privilege of participating in the raising of what will no longer be considered their children because it when women are allowed to have multiple sex partners then it gets really difficult to track who the the paternal line is so you have the shared paternity thing and men are just going to say well you know we have our boys Camp over here and we do what we do over here and then when we want to let go and deliver something of value you know an offering to the goddess Temple where it where n n n n n be involved in the lives of the children who are the community children then it’ll be on the terms of their mothers and that that that that that was bad it’s like a very interesting mother it sounds a bit like a Starhawk Snowville The Fifth Element but I haven’t read that at that exact stick what will California be like in a few hundred years after the nuclear war and blah blah and it’s kind of what so what was the book you mentioned some sex and sex at dawn by Christopher Ryan it’s become sort of like the best seller kind of introduction for people into the Paleolithic patterns of ancestral love 10 or maybe at least 10 years later to see first published 2010 yet. Stork origins of modern sexuality is a book doing the evolution of monogamy in humans and human mating systems angle song on the family of the origin of okay so that’s not starting interesting what you’re saying I mean I still think they might get it within that context that’s how people can come you don’t have have contracted while Michael wisdom if a c and I one on one. They might choose. With even within that context and I don’t know the whole I don’t think there’s a whole conversation which we wouldn’t have time to get into but the way the legal system reproduces a patriarchal Linea you know I made a sortie in each generation because if you you know if you try and stand up outside. System and the lower quartile quotes comes against to United States interesting what happened to rajneesh Osho when he went to Oregon and then she knows the Lord and you see that that very very famous now film series wild wild country that came out not too long ago I didn’t think about that was it was about the yeah then the hold on some Yahtzee compound in the whole Legacy of it and they interviewed people who on both sides of the conflict you know locals and health officials and I don’t know I’d like to do more research on on really the I mean you just came out of nowhere and it’s it’s such an important story to understand Ryan. and now it’s part of the Zeitgeist so now I like most people don’t even know how Township we initiated they are because they watch that and it leaves a lot of open questions as to you know who who to side with it’s not it wasn’t I guess I would say I’m going to withhold my comments on it but I would definitely say it’s like anybody who is especially because now you’re going to start hearing people talk about this on the street and People Like Us who’ve been here buried in our practices and and and studies to bridge that that sort of fun cultural Gap so yeah I think those use lure of legalism to enforce their the Loveless view of society in his property with his property is is the Madonna see that coming from and that was what was done against fractionation the end like he was legally pass a key to the house of the USA Spanaway Moving On by the brings me to my second point of the 16 which is the arising out of the facts of the cold ass is is too juicy to work for this is something that I as you know I run a peace Studies Institute am I posed at the foremast of my unite my work and I’m I’m not being inspired by lots of people in travel well America I came on a study Tour the States and not 1992 I’m actually kind of bleeding or as many of them as I could I could let me text Spence and peace studies Robertson’s Ready came to California I went to interview people apparently I’m time in La you know who was doing what I can piece studies and time I think that piece becomes Immortal GT it’s it’s if there’s one thing you could do with Patrick Enlightenment is a lie. I got pretty much into that because I was when I was graduating from the University of London I got involved with the team I think I told you maybe last time off I was young in a graduate but these were old professors and landed people that both gender has he been out this game for years trying to set up a peace Studies Institute within the University of London which is the biggest university in the English-speaking world I was given the job to bring the signal to me and Tom that’s why I came around sites what’s California interviewed everybody else still go to the tapes stuff and I got very deeply interested in in the religious side of peacemaking which led me is United to create the first mediation service that deals with interface disputes say when it’s it’s just got to be done I’m done quotes its know that we have one because the planet is still dying from a thousand wolves and people we speak but the thing that guides me in was where I was when I discovered cuz I love that emoji that the word Pax peace comes from packs in Alanton who was it called ice packs was a good ass so that is the kind of iconography off of white pieces impulsive and it was Augustus he was troll has since he was a great man he built a huge Temple and adults have two packs to go to S which he opened so I think that’s an oversea peace in every religion’s sacred it’s it’s it’s that scapy song Let’s Get piece and every single most synagogue or Temple Gurdwara Grove Druid Grove where am I and then we can go we can Elevate our discussions a difference it’s so much more sophisticated plane at the moment it’s very awkward the conversation military Simon weapons and research getting into high-tech wall making a list stuff and covet wolf fighting I don’t know if I remember when we last talked that we talked about my treaty on side by piece I don’t think so but that is very exciting to me because I’ve got to be fully evolved into cybersecurity crypto space so that please time since we lost talk time we’ve we’ve had some very weird stuff came down here in person you were with okay so we had we had a we had people in Salisbury accusing Russian Spies of trying to poison with neurological weaponized are the people called The Script out father and daughter and he went all the way up front secretary getting up in Russians were tried to kill our people men’s and ladies if you know the media holset turbo Russians it sold at Falls and the Russians to close tonight and said no it’s actually not as we think it’s you making a false flag operation say that then you can like attack Syria because of course everyone will be in at attacking Russia which is the main I live Syria so it’s all the covet operation so here I am watching movies and I’m simple taneously in conversation with Russian philosophers who I match my respect. Couple times and I’m thinking who do we trust in this kind of constant propaganda and side I drafted which way the bison and help from other colleagues around the planets including the Russians and Americans the first draft of what is called the international side of a piece and it’s it’s what I’m proposing is that the way to stop you see walls and no longer just being forthwith in a Mason soldiers firing guns that’s rather old hat there now for by people and computers station to Lowell Noble Finance hacking into a destroying each other and I stopped and there was I being fought with worms getting into labs in cyberspace so that’s a check to see what I’m saying is we need to sign a peace treaty I dropped it is I can send you a copy and always do that would be great I’ll definitely read it on the show if it’s appropriate in Neenah you might think of things I missed out what what I will say this quite interesting is that time the media Kohl’s have already picked up on this I ain’t nobody talks about a however escoffier was signed by about 10 or 20 leading intellectuals around the planet he signed it I write you and second person beside the including from Israel in America and Russia Britain and the Russian guy is quite intellectual he’s he’s probably go somewhere close to me because Peach and is always being accused of like being the worst cyber terrorists in the universe but I don’t know I spend all I know is that at the UN secretary-general opening of the UN session last September the Russian foreign minister lavrov he’s a very sophisticated guy and he said I believed it from the time she wants to propose is an international cyber peace treaty any woman’s took the words for my document and he said they would be discussing it tonight with a security Council so I was I was quite chuffed I mean if they are spying on my stuff they’ve stolen it to some effect number 17 is said to your Tantra is open source technology with the license to for people to share that you said eat when you share it and need the gift is to share with others are going to working with with peace on the tree of life is such a Santa since you want people copy that you want them to see it because because what you’re trying to give away is love say that the more that the guys around the better for all of us in the long run it’s like a bee husband is still this treaty instead I mean everything I’ll be saying from now on is peace oriented but I just want to flag out that’s the kind of number one thing that’s great a new thing I’m wishing on I’m I’m I’m I’m happy to give this one away even at eighty nights Klang you and maybe some of that book about peace magic which is the first ever attempt to create some conscious Croft kind of spell meditation tantric you know that either individuals or couples or groups canoe specifically around peace okay I mean I find it incredible that there isn’t such a book out there was such a sense of teachings and I’m really really enjoying I wanted to be ready practical kind of manual say that anyone in any city or country Forrestal grave anyone on the planet can I get this book and then do some spells do some work immediately it’s about orientation it’s about motivation it’s about how to how to transmute your own psychic energy potential to affect the Wild and I had a piece on jasonway say that I’m enjoying that it’s a new thing of a c I think you know I got this title and the Beast Druid breaking that you were upset with Drew it is simply the Gated for magician okay it’s just it’s a magician right but the magician itself is simply the term of the Magus which came from zoroastrian texts so the Magus and the Druid are exactly the same time when the Gaelic translation of the New Testament was stopping Irish it has three main guy coming to baby Jesus I on Christmas Eve and Christmas night in at the three the three sorry not no Christmas II PS2 me the three main guy that sent out with that free gifts in sense and Cole Truitt and me and the Gaelic translation of the New Testament it’s really a druid manual on how to do piece metric awesome and I just think it’s okay with you I mean why do I have to do all this stuff to sleep LOL how about to Proclaim video games these days oh well actually my first book Is is being edited right now and actually maybe one or two podcast before this one we did me and the editor did a podcast just to talk about sort of behind the scenes of the process of me writing the manuscript and him going over it in a sort of having this some just started out about four or five hundred pages of pretty much just lab reports and and I’m almost academic kind of Quasi academic journal entries and notes from a bunch of different psychedelic shamanic tantric experiences with various people places and things over over the course of my lifetime and then he was able to actually restructure it and make it into a more elegant kind of more romantic more digestible novel format sci-fi kind of Novel format so that it’s called psychedelic goddess worship ask erotic memories from the Astro Battlefield so going down before that the the goddess and in finding healing and end in learning to become you know nature nature enthusiasts and people who want to to be in service so it’s ya in the spirit then I would say this year it’s definitely a lot of fun of reconfiguration on the part of the editor see you here at him there myself Sunday I’m going to be standing piece magic to him I will just drop me off on do you will name that’s my stage name but you’ll be one of the first to know for sure that you enjoyed definitely trip yeah no no keep me posted on that I’m thinking of Ina Dennis McKenna book the Brotherhood of the screaming Abyss right turns McKenna’s brother I love his work in a similar kind of thing fascinating okay so I want to move on to the fourth thing which is it’s kind of like a bronze roof of Peace magic but it’s also I think and decide which is the whole question of sex sex you magic and add why that’s important to mortgages and how we do it and whether we do I enable the tension of the last how to get me some kind of to be subject Avenue you like in in certain circles as you begin to think it’s a hugely empowering conversation to start having as a planet at the process of the products of our parents sex Magik Which Wich in that created a specialized that enabled us to take Incarnation if you look up embodiment as a as a sexual 10 forgot to successful sex Magik which each year because of we should reverence this thing and Every Act of Love Making should be an active Sex Magic in my opinion and for which people need no tonight have to do that today and they need to understand what prayer is that I need to understand what the tension is and what time references people like sex but they don’t understand what it is I mean I used to be head of sex education in several schools in England as a secondary school teacher a job is to DNA bringing people that won kids about the kinds of diseases you can catch if you don’t wear a cumberbund so you have nurses and shine pictures of genital warts kids into behaving properly it’s just very low-level isn’t worth I think it’s and I’m kids really want to know about all this stuff and I think they they intend for education in the sense of consciously reverently making love of learning spouse and honoring the goddess of the cause of the male female elements should be part of any childs not to say, beige Cuba said beyond so I think school education should should should and I would say it’s an important part of everybody’s best friend the fact that it’s not there in the curriculum is is why the planets they screwed up and I missed it I mean we have a world where it’s acceptable to invent bombs to blow up cities of millions of people there Engineers working in in a Britain France America Russia right now to make a bomb that can destroy all about Moscow Paris and yet we talked about even a fraction of that to research into the nature of love and sexuality and Anthem a magic well I think I’m from the future because where I come from the priorities are very different to me that’s that’s what I’m trying to say why it’s important as a tradition of time to the to the to the future of this is a really interesting line of inquiry because I’m 100% in agreement with you and I guess I’ve become almost sadly so jaded and cynical to to be very I guess should be less bold in my in my hopes realistically fruit for what will happen in the more standard curriculum ahead and I’ve had a number of conversations with folks throughout the course of the podcast talking about how just teaching female the female anatomy and teaching the female arousal cycle and in just a very clinical aspects of a more balanced I guess Bridging the orgasm Gap is 1 1/2 inch of sex education that and so and so with with the biggest the biggest I’ve ever heard this a lot which is that I feel like well if we’re ever going to free the nipple and if we’re going to stop commodifying women’s bodies and basically metering out these units of pornography for sale and units of excessive exposure to fully you notes topless women in all of these Enterprises that often are criminal that are various levels but all these Enterprises that that profit on the damming of the middle experience of the nude available sensual and erotic size female form that there’s such an economy around that I mean hundreds of billions of dollars around just the fact that a boy’s mind is not bucking if you compare that to an indigenous Society where nobody wears clothes then there’s absolutely no frustrated desire around breasts there’s no there’s no distorted and contorted notion of accessibility of the visual stimuli other woman’s body and Sol to me that it’s like the if you just look at how distorted if we if we look at that and remember when I remember this was years back when I pop top top of the charts pop singer Janet Jackson had her nipple burst forth from her outfit during her Superbowl performance and it basically shock the world and I can only imagine how many people died of heart attacks at the moment that happened but you know that they’re hurt whoever it was your lawyer PR agent they basically put the spin on the public apology that it was a quote it was a quote to wardrobe malfunction and I think it was a few days later on I’ll make this one of those nights you as I think it was Jay Leno or Dennis Miller somebody say that I was making fun of it and it making poking fun at the whole system when he said you know so that the final report is that the department of wardrobe security is now going to be instituted help prevent these disasters from happening again something completely absurd right over the top with who is joke about it but the comment. It is on that and I feel like throwing up at 10 to hear but the thing that what I like about what you’re saying and what I really did need for more enlightened sex Educators to figure out me the weak points in the armor of his picture cool system so that we can skillfully consciously and end in Legally sort of family Pride I’m trying to price vegetation system where the advice when we were kids again I feel that life is some at some point. Sounds good one why it’s important to think about these these car make seasonal so that this notion you have about I really like this about the I mean for me it seems like almost in an insurmountable task to to just get even the most clinical aspects of teaching the female anatomy and its full Glory which is science you know there’s so that the medical sign even happening in in the American school system can be prevented it would be places where it’s absolutely all you can teach is the like what you’re saying that the negative aspects if we can you can teach I can basically the file pregnancy functions but basically you learning about how the male ejaculates in but not about it’s like if you want to have a successful conscious conception then it behooves you to spend time doing the the the work and arousing the woman fully so that all of her juices are flowing all of she’s fully biologically receptive to the experience and if you she’s closed down because of this like a 30-second you know friction experience that’s very painful and then her whole physiology basically shuts down and there’s not you’re not going to be as effective so even if they were just going to teach you about a gift I’m sure it on farms they have they have some sort of magic about how they cuz they care to have a survival with your direction you know I mean you know who this is not the right time to take but I know what you’re saying there’s some female sexual nice and Maze is pretty soon as a woman but he’s written a book called Eve secrets of the book she’s cooled something something loud Lowndes she’s trying to read we describe the female clitoris I’m watching TV is as an organ and what is shape is someone for the most part if they’re treated well and respected and then contracts are here too and they know what they’re getting into and hopefully they’ve matured and hopefully their brain has developed to its full capacity IE the age that it takes to actually I don’t say that to you so you better know there’s a dimension of Ethics when it comes to harvesting teenagers for your for whatever in that and I have had some of the best sex of my life as a 30 year old being fucked up fucked senseless by teenager in a monogamous relationship and I will I will tell you that it’s it some it was worth the daddy issues that I had to deal with it was worth reparenting her and it was worth every bit of emotional kind of awkwardness that there wasn’t some of the MX because she was such a good full spirited Prime late night it was funny cuz I was like settle you down and basically like I could teach your making a kid with ADHD sit in class is like no she wants to fuck wildly she wants you to perform more than you possibly ever could even at 30 and and she and she is not she doesn’t need these esoteric practices too heavy multi-orgasmic she’s fucking coming or brains out like so hard and I and I couldn’t sit her down the aisle still enough to do any of the practices that I thought were going to be so enlightening and went in the great thing is is it a fuck it like it is certain point you just say no guru there’s a song about it’s like no guru no no scripture No play just in the Dow of the thing so anyway so that’s a side note to say there is a sacred place for adult for fully mature brain develop adults to be having sex with teenagers and and I know that it can be done because I’ve done it but it also takes you can’t just treat them like a commodity please you got to you got to think about pedagogy Nikki learned from the person that you’re teaching teaches you things to like a circle so then so we’re talking about these ethics and where I wanted to just close that point about how I do my best to not be a cult leader I thought I figured it out pretty simply and correct me if I’m wrong but basically it’s it’s I dare you to to indict me for the the criminal and civil liability of misconduct for for for structuring a certain way so this is how I this is this is very simple as this is like this I said that this is a different the difference from a cult leader is that I’m a porn director I pay women to be directed and then I pay whoever I want to I will I will I will choose performers who I resonate with for whatever we would like to do together to make beautiful art and and I will compensate them and pay them to take time out of their lives to be a part of my design and to be directed by me they’re not paying me for healing for enlightenment for direction for guidance and I’m directing them and Meghan gratifying myself and taking their money in convincing mind fucking them and taking more of their money and more than money until they don’t talk to their friends because of and that’s how Colts are basically extractive from their students the colors are extracting from their devotees the difference is how many colors do you know that actually give their devotees money I will pay you oh now I’m making corned a porn director and I am more karmically correct than the fucking Guru who is fucking having people kiss his feet and take your money so who would have thought that the corn directors were the most enlightening Yogi’s to ever attempt to be divine and I have my favorites and I’m a fan of some of them I want I want to see the names but right now but that cuz I wouldn’t want to leave any out you know what I mean bless you all for paying people to direct them into your Twisted fucking fantasies and giving them that dignity like hats of their not wondering about it cuz there’s that was having a conversation today it’s like a buyer’s remorse if I say to you I’m just saying if you remember when you had to if you were old enough to know that there was a day when when when your allowance equals one CD for $15 so humorous if you never had experience this is important I think this is important teaching is important teachable moment is that is that and I don’t want to be today. Take care no man’s planning anything in them to have fun here but this is like this is this is late so here’s the funny thing though you think about I remember what it was like when I had to convince myself that amusing that a CD that fucking sucked was actually good because I paid money for it and I would not let myself suffer the indignity of having made a mistake so I was in a state of denial and delusion so so so feeling this isn’t meditation okay everybody think of something that you paid money for that you discovered was in the zoo is suboptimal and you used mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you actually liked it even though you knew deeply that you didn’t like it but it was called buyer’s remorse it was called the sunk cost fallacy of sunk cost fallacy is that because you invested something into this you have to continue beyond the point of no return because you can’t live with yourself other ways so that is this Twisted perverse placebo effect that happens when it’s like I went to the sex guru to get healed and he said for 9999 I would get here and but I but I could also upsell to the bonus extra double healing deluxe super Cosmic Crystal trademark excetera right thing and try before you buy money back guarantee accessories that you’re all of his legal he’s in fine print all the stuff but there is but that’s where it is we’re expecting to have some result that you paid money for and you will question whether or not okay did I was a hole in my heel did I pay enough money to pay more and some money and it is it distorts things and you did it it did contaminated in a way for that so I’m skeptical that I can be done right in that sense and that’s just me so what I say let’s work in the garden together my time equals your time and now we’re planting trees equals an hour of Yoni massage your prostate massage and therefore it’s a flat equal everybody has the same it’s his first come first serve you know and orgasms for work shirts that was my hand jobs for Humanity and helping a tree with two or so you’ll see it yeah it’s a white paper was written so is he ever gets faster so so that’s how I’m not going to be a cult leader is that I’m not going to charge people money to be Pawns in my game of or are you going to be players in my Game of Thrones Township Township twister you will get paid handsomely to be in my theater my game of Township twister and you can quit you can get any time you know that’s that’s that’s the thing to you won’t be like oh if I walk away now you know that then where I’m not like what I paid for I’m I’m already invested so much forever so so many different dynamics of of incentivization happening in this thing is so anyway that that was I think it is important to lay that out and and this is probably the first time I’ve articulated it on the podcast but I just was having this conversation today with this answer the CD metaphor thing where it’s like you know it did that it’s it’s a problem that way so so that’s I will not be extracting money from people in that in that way I’d rather pay them to be in my in my Productions and feel better about it that way so getting back to the fun stuff in the production itself so imagining that that would be the way from now on where I’m like if you want to that’s basically what I just described about that circuit of three people as a minimum to starting point is like that is the that is first base now you know that’s first base because getting into the circuitry of actual intercourse that’s where it required that’s where we get into the medical the medical responsibilities aspects and we get into more of the karmic sharing we’re really swapping scum he’s on an astral level at that point more so than if it’s an outercourse thing and you can’t go back once you know I don’t want to sound like a prepaid only sound like a six- future but but they were right about this mean you’re not wrong about everything they’ve had no sex for anybody ever. Is not the solution to people having sexually transmitted demons running rampant all over the place and it’s about making them your friends and making them work for you not against you and making them expose themselves properly and in you know where it’s not a pure realm we are not going to be perfectly protected in fear we can strive for that and we can use Kundalini and Prana and mantras and all of our medicines in purgatives and things to create a cleaner vessel to make more harmonious more resonance more signal-to-noise ratio and that is what to me this is all about and why we are missing out so badly to not be like I see this if God is wanted you got it for not created to nipples I can’t suck both nipples at the same time I tried some women I can do it on I’ve done it and you can do it some women is possible but for the most part so what does that mean what are you do do you limit God or do you just find someone else to be on the left or right side of you you know what is the big deal so when I think about this math equation how many erotic how many out of the box meaning not really the selective like subjective nuanced little erogenous zones that people get overtime in our lives but the out-of-the-box everybody is wired this way count how many erogenous zones you have and how what is the minimum number of mouse penis and genitals or fingers are human appendages required to simultaneously stimulate all those places it’s more than one person I can tell you that much you know so I just want us to start there and be creative in 2N to learn how to understand that we’re missing out and we should be wanting to gamify maximizing human potential for orgasmic pleasure because that is exorcism orgasm equals exorcism in some cultures who are Les Les Mis Sara Lee poetic about the floury discourse of symbols about sex life like a Latin American Shaman is said about her sexuality in the end in her how she explained why monogamous marriage was not really a thing in a culture that permitted extramarital sex and it was that in her mind and I am not going to say her name to cool her but I will say to paraphrase the essence of this wisdom is that to her mind it was just like an orgasm is like taking out the trash and that is not that’s not to say that it is mundane or a chore it is that it is a responsibility of hygiene in your household of your body Temple you need to have orgasms they need to be fulfilling need to get the job done and that is the exorcism aspect of it so the howling screeching all of these things that are considered that witches were burned forming figli sounds that those are the sounds of actual Holiness the set of holy the sound of Holiness is a woman’s orgasm and so let’s make those come more abundantly and let’s utilize map map the erogenous zones out of the box and then map the additional ones that are my favorite song and when you talk to me like this and this certain place I’m in the back of my head there whatever and then everyone has their own map so we can learn each other’s maps and if you don’t know your own map then you can ask people to help you there’s people who would love to lick and kiss and touch you and head to toe to find and explore you and and from a breasted state of consciousness D nice and yes I like to will you bring out the best in me that’s all I think that’s all you guys add that I can’t top that is the way to end so then really that was we didn’t even know that we put the icing on the motherfuking cake by saying you bring out the Best in Me so there was a documentary about at the peak of my desire to become a a rock star in the the crust Punk metal genre grindcore all that fun stuff I was studying that I wanted to understand and clock the music industry so I was watching every documentary I could find understanding music marketing and all the stuff and then I found this great documentary about about Jimi Hendrix and and I believe it was his fiance at a time who later became his wife if I remember correctly and she was talking about the time where he was building momentum and getting lots of gigs but still underground and she said something that stuck with me forever and if this moment which is it basically the hidden tension was used turn Express yeah we we all knew he was going to get sign or we all knew that you was going to take off he was going to blow up and so she said it was just about if someone puts put the icing on the motherfuking cake you know and I know and I felt that we we’re ready for that and we did some we had some we had some ice and get put on a motherfuking cake we did you get you always want more but I look back and I don’t think we could handle more so we got what we got and now I’m on a different I have a different cake I have a different cake mix and I don’t know if it’s that time I don’t know if it’s time to put the icing on the cake or not yeah I don’t know I mean the cake it’s getting cold she heard it mean if you’d if anyone has icing out there can it please be stevia-sweetened go Steven Johnson I don’t know how to hack them will work on that today I know it’s actually what I heard is that it’s a weird additive that they used to cut it because it’s so super sweet that you would basically died of sweetness if you didn’t like the step on it with some other things so I think that’s why I love growing Stevia and having a leaf to munch on and put in the tea because then you know is nothing else being put into it and it’s just as powerful you don’t really need to if you had the the live leaves one leaf enough will be enough to knock your head off for an hour so yeah I know on that snow yeah we’re going to put this devious fresh leave puree motherfuking icing on the cake I will put the icing on my own motherfuking cake that reminds me in 1 minute I just when I thought we couldn’t go out with a bigger bang this is going to be at because there was a a ritual ceremonial I called we called apart emoni where was the Psychedelic birthday party and we smeared cake all over each other and had to basically devour for the birthday gal of her own cake and it was just nipples and asses and I wanted to be in after from there I was my breasts Elsa. Playing for sure that brother and brother best me for sure but that when I got to put the icing on cake my damn self so don’t let anyone fucking tell you that you’re not none of me if you feel like it I mean I think we’re done I just can’t I’m going to fucking drop my phone right now when I might drop my phone on the couch citizen of the count but oh shit it’s next level add icy Cipher geise that’s going to have some cake with that icing okay thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

An Academic Overview of Tantra with Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern TPP196

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In this episode I’ve been blessed with permission to publish my favorite Tantric scholar Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern’s lecture called An Academic Overview of Tantra. I discovered his epic video a few years ago and felt it to be the most comprehensive yet accessible single unit of tantric teaching I’d yet found. It’s truly a universally compelling thesis that continues to passionately move me to share his work. I consider this piece to be one of the single most important prerequisites for any modern student of the tantric arts. He takes us on a geographic, historical, and philosophical adventure.

You can listen to our previous podcast here:
https://tantrapunk.com/enlovement-and-enlightenments-with-peace-and-tantra-scholar-dr-thomas-clough-daffern-tpp146/

Please visit his websites at:
https://thomascloughdaffern.wordpress.com/about/
http://www.educationaid.net/
http://globalgreenuniversity.com/

About Thomas:

Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern B.A. (Hons.) PGCE. D.SC. (Hon), PhD. is a philosopher, historian, teacher, poet, author, lecturer, musician, thinker, educator, consultant and peace studies specialist. His academic background includes degrees in European and world history (with political philosophy) and religious education, plus a long period of intense personal study in philosophy, religion and the history of ideas – together with over 30 years teaching experience in the same fields. He has also trained and practised in conflict management within communities and schools, specialising in multifaith and multicultural mediation. He is also a trained and experienced teacher in secondary schools, specialising in philosophy, religious education, history and citizenship studies. He was awarded his PhD from the University of London for a thesis which explores the history of the search for peace from 1945-2001 and which proposes a new field of historiography, Transpersonal History, as the best way to establish a rigorous discourse on peace among rival and contending spiritual and intellectual traditions, currently battling for hegemony on the planet. He is an expert in research techniques and methodologies on all aspects of history, religious studies, the history of world philosophy and transpersonal psychology. He has lectured in peace studies, philosophy and religious studies for many years at the Universities of London and Oxford, and has spoken twice at the UN Headquarters about the role of Universities in changing the climate of fear and violence on the planet to one of trust and wisdom-seeking. He is a founder and coordinator of International Philosophers and Historians for Peace and has worked with philosophers and intellectuals from many countries worldwide to help establish intellectual and spiritual networks for peace and goodwill. In 1990 he was elected in Moscow as Coordinator of International Philosophers for Peace, a specialist body of philosophers worldwide searching for peace and international understanding.

He is Director of the International Institute of Peace Studies and Global Philosophy (IIPSGP) which works across many academic fields to bring together all those with an interest in and a commitment towards the study of peace and philosophy on all levels of the personal and global and to applying the qualities of love and wisdom to the resolution of the problems and tensions of today’s world. IIPSGP arose out of a feasibility study which Thomas undertook for the University of London into the proposed establishment of an Institute of Peace Studies (from 1989-1992). IIPSGP now operates as an autonomous Institute with members scattered worldwide. Thomas is also Founder of The Global Green University, which has arisen from the work of IIPSGP and was launched in 2000 as a pilot project in complementary higher education, to bring into being a new global higher education initiative which can provide space for the deeper kind of learning which we believe is needed at this time of critical transition in the history of planet earth.

Thomas has developed long term educational programmes to widen understanding of the causes of conflict and approaches to peace and to assist social and cultural development. He has also created, (in association with the Gandhi Foundation and the World Conference on Religion and Peace), the Multifaith and Multicultural Mediation Service. The M.M.M.S. is the first mediation service to specialise in disputes in which issues of faith and/or culture are present. He has also served as an educational adviser to numerous organisations including the UN and UNESCO. He has travelled widely in India and has visited 8 times, travelling throughout the country and meeting academics and spiritual seekers. He has extensive knowledge of Indian religious and philosophical teachings and has proposed the formation of an Indian Union Mediation Service to prevent conflicts in the entire sub-continent. He is a lay member of the Anglican Church, as well as a practicing Druid elder, Qabalist, Sufi, Yogi, Tantric and universal mystic with an extensive knowledge of all world religious and philosophical traditions. He served as educational director of the Gandhi Foundation with the late Surur Hoda, and as Secretary General of the World Conference on Religions and Peace (UK and Ireland) from 1990-1997 attending and contributing to many of its international conferences in Rome, Vienna, Sweden and Paris. As an ecumenical esotericist and universal mystic, he has also spoken at Theosophical, Anthroposophical and other esoteric organisations and networks worldwide, and helped convene the Network of Wisdom Schools at the Theosophical Society headquarters in London in 2000 for Sancta Sophia Seminary. He has spoken in Edinburgh to the Edinburgh International Festival For Middle Eastern Spirituality and Peace on several occasions, running a workshop there on the Esoteric Dimensions of Peacemaking in the Middle East, focused on his book The Qabalah Runes. He has lectured in the USA on various occasions, including at Sancta Sophia Seminary, as well as at Findhorn in Scotland and the Edinburgh and Israeli Theosophical Society.

Please visit his websites at:
https://thomascloughdaffern.wordpress.com/about/
http://www.educationaid.net/
http://globalgreenuniversity.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design a never more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin your beloved’s welcome to Tundra Punk podcast episode number 196 I’m running the audio from a video put out by Thomas cloth Dufferin which is called an academic overview of Tantra and that’s how I discovered his work we did an episode together a while back episode number 146 and luffman and Enlightenment with peace and Tantra scholar dr. Thomas cloth diapering and he is really one of my most cherished Scholars of Tantra and practitioners and we go very deep into our discussions of the political and the logical Praxis of Tantra as an art of love and healing in and ultimately planetary peace and so I really love this overview of town. He gives it to my reference sort of go to for anybody who I who I meet who is interested in exploring this topic it’s really a powerful comprehensive overview and really gets into the Geo historical journey of Tantra that the scriptures of taking over the course of hundreds if not thousands of years and so much rich and deep history and philosophy that he brings to it which is hard to find all in one place in the work he’s done the rigorous meticulous academic work he’s done and his ability to articulate that is is profound so I wanted to I wanted to be able to have that content available directly on my site he was again gracious enough to provide this permission to do this it’s also a Prelude to a deep discussion that we did recently that will come out soon all about what he is calling a thesis of Applied Tantra and we going to some very interesting places with that discussion in one of my real serious favorite mentors in the world always makes me feel like when we’re talking that were in the middle of some epic Indiana Jones plot to unravel these Mysteries and it it’s should be no surprise that I am really passionate about about demystifying did the truth that can be discovered within Tantra and actually rectifying the damage that was done in the misrepresentation of Collie in the Indiana Jones series so this is very app for me and always the passion that we share when we when we talk is is really a Timmy reminiscent of that that passion that many people have for that Series so I just have one to say this is a lot a lot of fun for me to to work with him into and hopefully more will happen in the future and I really do hope you deeply immersed yourself in this episode and listen to it over and over again as you are out there also known as we all do try to do our best to to give proper attribution and respect and contacts to this mystery that we that we call Tantra so thank you very much namaste what I want to talk about it is a kind of academic overview of what temperature is what academic expense in in religious studies know about Tantra what we * 9. Where it comes from. What why the concepts interesting why the practices and traditions are interesting how old they are I’m having to link with different religious practices in Origins and then why it’s become so kind of popular now in the present world and in the 21st century it’s got a long history and it’s still popping away and doing things people in the life so that’s very interesting said the first thing about the word concept as a linguistic + highways look at the word fast to understand the concept of time which comes in two parts 1010 means I’m extension and stretch it isn’t holding European is that are in the word extension in English intention the implication is this a tension between two polarities and turn into a tantra is understood by tantric meditation to study language they know the meaning of that Sanskrit words right they said refers to the extension that underlies the entire universe Tantra studies the workings of the Gods Shiva and Shakti they did the Primal female and male energy causes cracked universe and is interested in how that universe is crazy. It’s the tension the clarity that underlies the entire Cosmos now course the crate is inventis a tundra ancient Bronze Age and Neolithic and pre Ice Age possibly see us an ancient India and him and I reach in and Central Asia they didn’t know the astronomical confirmation the size of the universe they didn’t know it was twenty thousand million light-years across extension but they knew and Chuchu play it was lost right they looked at the stars from the Himalayan caves and said wow wants to celebrate. Incredible expensivest on denies universe that’s the 10 bit and dumb the other one to try is the same as as transcend to go beyond its in transpersonal it’s Interra it’s in the concept the roofs of Troy in Sanskrit and this is confirmed by Panini in the crate Sanskrit United linguists as well as more Moulton Linguistics is that the truth always has this information can be on something transcending it I need it supposed to reach of the word 3 which is if you think about it it’s it’s you take the basic polarity of something the tension between things and then you try and send it with rhenus to make a pyramid or a triangle triangle that tries at the root of all Concepts threeness in the Trinity the Christian knowledge of wisdom which is that the Trinity is the summing-up of the ten talents you things because you have that third point Rudolf Steiner talks about the mystery of three and of course The Druids use the word use the the number 3 some of the totality of mysteries so try is and it’s even in the would try which means to spy to go beyond to try to do something if you study the etymology of into European word roots you got a lot of very interesting metaphysical insight into the original some metaphysical fultz of of these ancient Sears and sages Sanskrit was one of us you know direct lineage has but it’s not Wilson Celtic and I will sex and lots of green Consulting & Slavic languages. That truck is in trimurti which is in 3/4 aspects of gold the Hindus had Frozen around see what that means but it is about how the universe is created the entire Cosmos that we know is Creighton and then going Beyond it going to the source getting to the incredible invisible you know what physicists now according to energy Tae crazy Cosmos Embassy is just a little popsicle compared to what still out at the Undiscovered what’s working here about ten trees explained met the metaphysical. It’s where everything comes from its ho I’m even call it Heaven Christians and other religions say there’s another world parallel to this the TransPass no spiritual heaven when Soul goes off to off the tack that’s the world that transfer takes you to it it’s best right now that’s a very profound and that’s the essence of all religion if you think about it that’s the old religion tries to do so where does this tradition come from well it’s it’s the satiric Transmissions that are some fast light the Ancients is The Vedic says some of the earliest spiritual writings on the planet from the Himalaya regions North India 15 1700 BC and Aunt Auntie withdrawing and I’m actually anxious and knowledge system handed down by word of mouth is my rising at this time for those people that was writing in the Indus Valley culture has which day facts about 2500 BC. Script is not being fully deciphered some say it was related to Sanskrit some say it was related to dravidian it seems to contain elements within characters in Dasani script that relate to Chantry Concepts you see it have a Shiva like figure in in in meditation post and since there are animals to the remind olevic for sacred animals will sacred name 47 spiritual powers and energies like snake the Buffalo lion the Tigris a truck I’m so I think what we can say is that the 10 traditions in Hinduism drawer on The Well of wisdom that is from the northern Indian couches that they are the dravidian couches probably of that region plus the Indus Valley cultures which may mean nothing to it in the Shiva was probably that that mean Diancie tendon European tribes appearing Brahman and United the beta codes appearing Agni and Davey using Soma as a as an ecstatic mind-altering substance because Shaman’s wanted to access the state of ecstasy wants to go beyond the world and these ancient tribes found that one way to do that is to is to use the freaks of nature nature provides the clues I just salvation in in the fruits of the earth and the Millennium expensive things he found a certain kinds of herbs and potions and compounds produced send kinds of facts and Consciousness I’m Goldenwest some and other kind of receptions into socket e-mail to Scott speculations that human consciousness itself turns McKenna right about the food of the Gods the human consciousness itself if Cole among these primitive 8 by creatures ramapithecus the renewal in India 3 million BC something to make him leave about 60,000 be seeing me stop thinking and toking why did they stop making that maybe we just sort of discovered incredible effects of of of Summa and scriptures say that at some point we plugged into the language we would conscious maybe the same story is kind of trickle-down in the other parts of Asia in the west as the fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil when it becomes of Doc some dangerous thing but in fact if it’s the fruit of the Tree of Life which is a certified centrifical text and then there’s probably an ancestral memory in the people that wrote those Biblical scriptures down much later. Somehow that’s going to be ingesting The Forbidden substance and the Advent of an experience of intellectual ecstasy or omissions today’s Vedic Sears with pussy Hawaii if a pretty powerful is the wonderful story of the brand has reached out but going to see a Hindu Guru in in like I’ve seen it somewhere up in the glass give accounts to see my recent film I’m cold still here when he says you know he he he been worrying about his life his mother just died and she had a phone call from his brother he was you know he wasn’t in a fit state to see the guru I never met this guy before he went out in the friend group the largest they stayed in the night before 2 to look at the stars and kind of feel sorry for himself anti Peta what am I doing things to see this. I don’t believe in good reason I’m a nice Jewish boy from from America and I am a Scientist but he was experimenting with you anyway the next day he went out to the ash travel group was introduced they went and sat down buy him a new fuse to power any kind of a patient’s doesn’t do that Westin Long Beach. CA I’m time he sat down in his presence I’m a God-fearing man could speak broken English sunset that was a really sad State you got into last night on the trying to watch him to stop thinking about your mom I’m so sorry that you felt all those things you pick this up telepathically that moment prom dresses salute conceptual framework of what’s permissible for Consciousness to do something the evaporated he was a guy able to read his mind right to the depth of his soul could pick up his in a spiritual angst anything from not moving to transform and that guy became a screw and gave him a new name and he’s he’s in a line of descent from The Vedic says I’m talking about they were at that level thousands of years kind of cat to have a sentence with initiation Worley now can’t respond for that system North World Hindu gurus practice 10-4 Paseo would use the term necessarily but it’s so the roofs of what they do physically I think it is I who comes up the stuff of body is sending of the Kundalini to the to the Hyatt chakras and the the cancellation of the sahasra the crown chakra to a blazing light of Illumination which brings samadhi Springs Awakening now that’s kind of Awakening DDD surrounded by Westin spiritual seekers in Saint confirm this through that spiritual healing and animals and scientific techniques of measuring body radiation stuff seemed to confirm this so we’re surrounded by not what you feel I’m putting most of its dormancy snow activate it’s not the way it’s kind of unconscious Freud and Jung put it on the train superconsciousness inventions his concept of the egg diagram which is a symbol of how the transpersonal self then Inspire list of demanding self you know which is at the top of the crown of the knowledge of wholeness samanti McKendree my chest Emoji in Sanskrit is simply comes from the same root the same same as I didn’t means when the Mind instead of looking at differentiation and everything’s different it makes it realize that everything is a Divine Unity of one this everything’s the same you know Muslims Jews Christians Buddhists Hindus boxes safety the same one from the samadhi Consciousness perspective that’s what we treat everyone with equal love compassion and and Magnum in and say goodnight now that’s that’s on the condition of Consciousness that’s what we really should be some of the scripture say be descended from galt’s in advance does a whole kind of tradition that we are actually Gold’s on earth and the great sages of the beta times like yudhistira it was said of him that when he told me you have to speak to now she can’t touch the ground you know he was at which is either a metaphor or something that these Sears can do anyway this is an awesome history account account the whole thing I’m one thing that’s very interesting because I’m free scholarship religion is to trace the history and many inches of a spadix is the origins of country philosophy metaphysics lie about time and meditation practices in someone that they become formalized in Hinduism with with them push and Johnny and I thought yoga practitioners pranayama insulting work were invented or discovered at that time in in prehistory right yogurt is is a form tax in Contra theft in Indian culture which includes the monster the body and the mind and soul in a hominid means reuniting yogur is opposite the sun square foot to reunite the Soul Essence with its Divine source you don’t have to leave the body anti to do that did the point attend roach is a very radical concept is that you can attain on this season’s and God Consciousness and wisdom in this lifetime in this party. All I do is the Hindu I’m sending reincarnation Cycles is that it takes an immense time to finally come home to to where we’ve been on the loan which is our Eternal Soul nature I’m becoming very long journey sometimes life off the life of the life we got lost and trapped in. Comic patents which we may be, can I also three Roman thinking time she would say it’s always a metaphysical misunderstanding that lies at the root of suffering and the job of the yogiyo the Teatro fluster is to untangle that is not a misconception in the student or the aspirin until they themselves Beach their own freedom of knowledge in Greek Enlighten Alaska license which means untangling on loosening since it’s the least thing of adults with Tide okay so that’s that’s what the Hindus which I am not became Hinduism right which is a silhouette it doesn’t exist in Sanskrit that meant a lot. It was supposed to come with Ninja and Colby people Hindus from the river Indus the time Hinduism wasn’t used it with snacks and Dawn by was the Eternal truth okay fast forward abyss and further off in another part of the Himalayas in Lumbini in what is now in the pool I’m in the second plan that was born a prince Siddhartha Gautama who was raised in in the noble traditions of his are Socratic full baths and was being trained to become the next Prince of Columbus Zoo he was struck by the bug of seeking for ultimate wisdom and truth and had a kind of heroic mindset like many great Kings and princes in history that he really wants to save his people not just loading of the man having a nice banquet some things but actually finding the ultimate Reese’s know how to reform and redeem people’s sufferings which is an incredibly Noble aspiration okay so then the young man said housing and studied in the forest with many great sages who who was the local Hindu sages base to tried everything fasting chanting standing on one leg in a May 16th at parties till it was a young man cataumet Winton study with them for many years learning from each and turn Until you realize it may seem none of them actually had the secret they didn’t I mean maybe he just makes a leading yeah actually had the samadhi experience that they can transfer it to him they didn’t know enough he was obviously quite a wise man of few months of questions and he then had his own experience of Enlightenment to samadhi of Awakening under a tree and I’m putting two to I’m in which she realized I can calculable holistic knowledge that comes when the crown chakras awake and from then was will have enough can you transmit this how can you speak about this it’s beyond any given language it’s comes from the same place as the source of Mind itself a sociable languages how can anyone language transmit this so but anyway after few days he thought he’d try and of course and began his teaching career and he was from 10 – the puta mean in the awakened one the unlikely one and he transmitted through summons and informal disco seasoned instructions. Particular practices and sound to do in BRAC forms of yogurt affect medication which is which is focusing Consciousness and learning to transcend the Spheres of temporal whoa back to this new phonics state is he cool with it now the teachings that were what is Anna’s got two phones risk of esoteric Buddhism which is the practices the work of the signing of the everyday life the discipline of Anaya and then it’s going to see satiric form which is the wisdom teachings to put a transmission transmission play some some Cycles was so Advanced they can actually pick up on those thoughts just as I recounted the story of the Hindu Guru being able to use telepathy now so it was a nice time since I put a like mice transmit to the Olsson Associates of the bubonic stage and some of his disciples and friends like Ann and the cost is tradition apparently was was transmitted in the famous flower sermon which was a sign of just School somebody just held a flower now what is 10 trick Forbes originates in tires that the British tantric tradition is that there was a Maurice at Eric teaching that put a transmitted from mind to mind which which concerns the the the structure of the universe and the purpose of human existence of the future Destiny of the soul but it wouldn’t talk and discuss about ultimates God God’s Soul reincarnation self he he was he was a bit pedantic actually in his teachings Nollywood the four noble truths the Eightfold Path now repeat off to me you know there is a cause of suffering there is a solution say excetera excetera is all you know quite basic stuff very important but nevertheless quite basic and Buddhist teachings I was right next to repeat you know simple phrases again and again and again where’s the thing for his more advanced disciples he kept the more profound stuff and often it was done without words and so then you go to tradition developing I’m off to put his death and after a show calf founded Buddhism as a kind of the major religion of Northern India I’m couple hundred years off to put a tide it became very very sheex to to to become Buddhist cuz Ashoka the Emperor of Northern India had converted from a Woolite state trapeze. I’m also influence by the Giants as well I’m so modest use of founded the Sangha developed great libraries great sense of scholarship like nalanda which became a huge when I State University in Bangor until Shyla which was another great University Montessori complex in what is now Pakistan even in a on the on the route I kind of stopped I meet these supposed love that text they studied and they began to write 10 trick but it’s time for text as well a lineage has developed whereby particular but his stages it was felt and reach the highest enlightenment and entertained on the simplest to holistic Consciousness right now it’s not everyday not not your average Joe being policeman gets there and some actually think will they called that because they got together in lifetime’s in my fund and the whole High Rock you think it’s in yeah but you know even if he says he he when he hasn’t gone for a little month is the 10th root symbol radical they would like the Mystic secret agents for the dominant wisdom you know you’re not allowed to say that to the turn tricks or kind of innocence marginalised for mainstream put some some extent and and frequented the woods and and even the Charnel grounds that The Cremation places because that was a really strong place you could confront temporality in death so they took to do in the meditation in in Washington corpses and stuff dead then develop this heroic the mosquitoes they be cold this this aerobic troop of a realized beings at that time but isn’t it reached nirvana I reach Enlightenment lead in the potty I’m tilted the the grace Saints the great Mystic achievements and lineage then comes down and then what happens is that the people of Tibet Golden Krust in Buddhism and they sent missionaries to ask for help my son Bolivar he was from kind of Northern Pakistan to actually come to Tibetan teach Buddhism to the Tibetan people’s was one of these since she was a 1040 shop he hit a chain. Cosmic Consciousness if you want I’m he was also scholar and and he was a product or phase universities in Northern India Which Wich study of astrology and metaphysics and epistemology and Physiology a proper sentence of real Line Is It Anyway he was he was he was given a consult he signed a contract extension without without the right consoles and woman was was was proposed as his consort and they began very strong wisdom if a great love affair in which they I was transferred it to her life of the East Church teachings they spend a lot of time in caves together he entered legendary in spash he struggled with the Demons of the phone from using and I’d introduce Township 02722 badge this there’s wonderful legends about his life, some Bob left teachings which were too advanced for the Tibetans about time just began the journey put it on the neighbor coming out of a kind of shamanistic world in which they were working the demons to get to that Consciousness level I mean I didn’t think having some Papa would have disparaged the shamanic traditions because 10 for itself comes to some extent from them but I think that he would have felt that some of the elements of fear that exist in the in the in the the Primal kind of shamanic world the nation’s the struggling with with an a with the gala in the enemy demonic forces I think that was that was transmuted intended Buddhism into coming from a place that had the love and compassion which as we put himself in the light of his Enlightenment transmits the arrows of the devil Mara into flowers I need statistics for the parts of the moral history of the white humankind if you want to come to to that represent Stars. Transformation to a world a new world of love and compassion similar in some ways to Christianity coming to say Britain in the county Wild the story of Thomas and Barbie continues and the teachings that were left with two profound people about time it is sad in tibetan tantric for is that he left them as mind residues can Tums which were left in secret places around Sebastian caves in particular Bally’s embedded in a rock even in a tree or a while and end these would literally imprinted by his mind on the place and then could be read later hundreds of years later by someone who choose to it and this is an extraordinary story to look at this academic in scientific that you know if if parapsychologist now reconcile apathy does exist which I pretty much proved Chevy transmissions in song yes they can happen we don’t know how they happen but they do happen well can you can you actually in bed forts in a Place Minot if you need some Lefty mind-to-mind why does time have to get get a problem if seems to be severe evidence for precognition exists people can understand the past when it’s still the future and vice-versa that you know we can jump about past and future and present there’s no at a certain level of a machine Consciousness you can choose where you dip down into the mine stream if the universe is a player continue mindstream this time she teaches then once she got off into the APA reaches the mainstreaming courage and you’re traveling faster than light and don’t forget we know from Einstein that it’s the speed of light that produces the visible world of time and space that we know I keep trying to send the restrictions the speed of light go to the speed of fools you can you can dip into anytime you want and I think that’s what these people would doing and I think someone, some Baba imprinted in a row core cable second each day with enlightened vibration resonating in that space and could be picked up later by an issue or an aspirin in the state of devotion I’m not stats on the Run many dozens of reports of Tibetans light to finding these teachings of Peppa Peppa sumbala a tradition of the old skools Tibetan Buddhism right which was much later reform by the Yellow Hat’s the girl look Papa the old school worship the original tantric teachings of the old school and they argue. Just as the Hindu Tantra Salon cute that that you can obtain the highest nirvana in solitude you can go into States Of Consciousness and blessed meditation unite and reach you can travel around the universe you can do time travel you can fly ineffective yeah I promise I was supposed said he could fly out of Body Experience physical buddy levitating that’s my view so yeah you can do a lot but if you want to ground that if you want to actualize that in order to link between heaven and yes time teaches you how to go to heaven you can fly with the city’s but can you go to the shops and get some bread and milk you know and talk to the local people then it’s going to die a house is a teaching you’ve got to be able to live in the world as well as transcend well so the 10 try you can turn it on its head it’s about it’s about the transcendental coming into the world as well coming into the tension taking full becoming a human good night that’s the whole nation in Hinduism of the avatar the avatars that is the God’s grace descending Into the Wild enchantra the mass city is is is the Buddhist Christ descending into the world it’s that new vonyc Force coming into samsara and if the reason that bridge built then both worlds side in at the Saints and the niceties love this while they like visiting it rude to visiting hours at crucifies and likewise we humans need to be able to know that there is another world and it’s going to be okay so we don’t have to compete Heaven’s big enough for all of us cuz you’re a Muslim and Jew or Christian going to have to fight and kill each other so important and how one of the ways it can be done is through relationship rice through building the tension of relationship and between male and female that the twin embodiments of Shiva shack TV innocence incarnations itself the princess of bifurcation the unity becoming the two which makes a trinity and and the male females working together conjoining and partnership in sacred partnership in 10 Short Pump ship is the vehicle for the Bridge Building between the transcendental world in the mundane world answered the whole idea of sacred sexuality is it the Russe at entry practice as adamek practice I mean all religions accessing the sacred apart from maybe one or two I’ve known religions of sites it’s an unhealthy or unclean or something most religions realize that sex is Sacramento in in Christianity Sacrament and this is why they celebrate with marriage and big festivals and parties in Judaism it’s the same the Soha kabbalistic text has passages about in a female aspects of the gold hat Pokemon Bina what goes on in tentra is is the affirmation of the World by the transcendental in a business is the eternals on his question in all religions ophiologist we struggled with yes there is a chance that the world and is demanding what what’s the relationship is it also makes people realize there’s something not quite right with the mundane world people died the Spain people lie cheat and steal you know so most religions somehow try and try and renovate the ethical behavior of people in the mundane world in the lights of the trance Festival transcendental well that’s the point of prophets and seers and say that’s the point of Revelations of God in history right now so that’s that relationship with the two is is is the crucial knob Froggy Went in origin and over to just practice in according to Tantra the relationship is one of love I’m one of mutual affirmation the mundane world is a creational play O Lela of the Divine world it’s it’s it’s a wonderful party the gods are having a 6 and it’s meant to be a blissful and delightful and CPAP experience unfortunately it’s like a party this goes slightly out of hand and you know you see them on Facebook you have a Facebook party and lots of people turn out and smashed the place when the parents are the kids that are on the planet realize how we should be treating The Witch’s with reverence as as the home of the Cults and so what happens is is the teachers of the Punnett being a Buddhist Hindus Christians Druids whatever you want to call it doesn’t matter they use different names in different places sufis Muslims Catalyst same tradition they would each just basically try and get the kids to behave and see now about the fundamental principle on which that’s premise is that there is a contract to Covenant of compassionate love between the transcendental well and the mundane world to put the gold so loved the world that he constantly sends down in a Messengers Alliance Plumbing Sons and Daughters right through sex that is how Spirit works the miracle of manifestation and neither is a tradition tent roof of the possibility of manifestation of a body shorty from mine levels which is a bit like Christ’s Resurrection appearances in song I mean there is I think there’s enough evidence in the literature of the Saturn time sheet for that perhaps some initiates can rise up to certain levels where their bodies can internalize there is people like Babaji another special but that’s that’s extremely Advanced Ultra practicable in the world as we are at the moment I’m so safe for most people it’s the experience of section that is the cusp Alinco Bridge moment between the mundane in the transcendental experience falling in love with being in love expressing that love physically is an extremely powerful feeling involving the 40 the emotion that the spiritual matron song and cancel that 4 works with that recognizing that is the sacred full commission transcendental in the mundane into into link and so what is tantric practitioners the old school of which, son Bible was the Exemplar I’m in the Trenton contacts are others before him which would Embrace sexual ecstasy as a vehicle to Enlightenment which means the outer body experience the rain by Buddy excetera and consults to yes it’s okay I was very interesting woman history of religions cuz we have her will to biography she wrote a story down into Baton and it’s one of the first or tomography by practicing female mistake in the history of man’s religions she describes what it was like being without some Papa and I’m the awesome adventures they had this apparently 11 tradition I think it’s true they want I’m in a cave some months exploring each other in the Mysteries and the effect was so awesome on how passionately that when having somebody went off you have to go visit about him do some work during some demons she tries to stay in the cave meditate for like 3 months cuz she was just so like unless she wants to stay in that state and she writes this and Whores hog for you and this is an amazing woman and one of the great Saints of not just put his literature but world literature must have been many others like her because as a recent American feminist to store in the religions Scola has has written a wonderful book compassionate Enlightenment and what she’s explained and explored the history of 10 I’m not just bought in the tub and then we’ll send the North Indian tradition sahasra another great women Mystics we know practiced this kind of passionate ecstasy in which sexuality was seeing some vehicle towards Enlightenment nose a hindrance to it I think Sally and history Regents many men and some women have seen sexuality is something I’m actually not to be tempered with which we control fiercely police with marriage rules and regs it’s on it’s on enchantra it’s seen as something so sacred that it’s has to be free as to be Beyond you can’t have rules and regs about this it’s too profound okay and it’s out at Haas a mystical experience and it’s it’s The Reawakening renewal of the Covenant between the transcendental in the Monday night to today right it was towed through mudra three practices through through to mind only Transmissions it was through meditation beat the bomb has the old school told this to that students in in monastic contacts milarepa to through poetry as he left about from Peak to peak in the Himalayas I’m in love with Nirvana so much that he made up some of the world’s most incredible poetry he’s like the room if to that and it survived the miracle of tantric Buddhism in Tibet is it survived until the present time is a direct lineage of this stuff because that was how to get to very few people caught the Muslim armies will they conquered more than India and tragically destroyed text Sheila and and Lando right monasteries Libras went up in Flames they miss Mystic what the police Township something for devil worshiper and I’m having lost some of that uses chart lineage that would come down from Hemet they kind of misunderstood it was a tragic miscommunication and they bundle of the manuscripts they store the fly business often they kill died in the box and but fortunately a couple of generations of central to before The Invasion pretty much the whole law to being taken to the bye bye teams of skull has sent by to bad who who preserve those manuscripts so we have most of what malandrin text Sheila hide in the monasteries of tobacco as a treasured its patents fell in love with that reporter someday they they went to town on that she night I need they developed this incredible civilization in in in the highest Plateau on the planet and it was preserved for for millennia and because here I just didn’t want to go out text too far there’s nothing apart from some yak about that they didn’t bother thank God Is Right until tragically the Chinese in the 1950s did invite you turn in the 1960s did the cultural revolution and until another monastic burning load stuff on top but fortunately again that mean another Exile. I love her come-out bringing his wagon trains of sacred precious writings and llamas used to struggle of crosses some of them still to touching that precious texting things and I belong is it come out around that same time Chucky on true but one of the craziest Tibetan tantric teachings of the twentieth century came to Britain and he was a high Lama with with with this Township knows I’m talking about and he went and rode this is human Oxford University he said if I’m going to seriously bring this to that and wisdom to the West I have to understand how the West things I have to study philosophy and stuff and also what she did to bring it mine he then went and set up Sammy Lane Munster in Scotland which is one of the biggest Buddhist monasteries in in in Europe which continues to the state the current time you know that Mama Street Lama yeshe continues to practice these these Traditions song said that they continue to survive. I mean on Match many of these different person and talk to them so what I’m saying is not just from books it’s from experience it’s from lived experience for instance, yes I did. Treats on the Island Coney Island off the coast of Scotland in which you go into a meditation station in 40 days and 40 nights Mauston what it was like I said well after while you lose all distinctions between sleeping and being awake between between dark and light 9 nice and day you interest I took navanick Continuum consciousness you transcend time and and your mind then expose the universe it’s that packs a perfect trick or would like basically see so the dates it’s it’s wonderful it’s miraculously survived and we are very blessed in this country in Britain to have that mistreat to have all the schools teaching the other people teaching different aspects of whiplash though such a half you know the Hindu tradition which survived in spite of the Muslim conquest and in many ways the British acting deserve it because they some people Grumble that the British began India for a couple of centuries we did keep a bit of water on and we also didn’t know if a lot of scholarship and people are swimming Giants learn Sanskrit discovered the links to Greek and Latin invented the concept into European Linguistics and we wouldn’t know so much of what we do know about time to wear it not for the British Scholars of throw a jacket size account cast from someone that looked through the scripts and song Sir John Woodroffe it was British claim Administration the Raj again another time he published as much as he could be right folks on at the seven pounds on that mean many British pounds of religion. Deeply into this stuff and there’s a huge literature which which is come out the British old is the range resting Sunny just come out it was British civil servants in a minute straight to see ReDiscover the holy places of Buddhism they’ve been welding the Gratitude and they went over grind jungle Elias in the pool I know it in India and it was British Scholars and administration lawyers and judges see what they’re interested in the list and went and rediscovered places like so and of course say that. Transmission through the British Raj to 2 in a manuscript coming to the British line dance on his crazy the whole traditional Oriental studies in sunglasses Exemplar institution where they study time for the high level of academic knowledge and those texts being preserved talk to bed the British Library whatever Dolphins playing tonight so there is a traditional Scottish scholarly study of country biking speed Hindu or Buddhist at Stats alive and well and 07 India and indeed has been translated to French a Buddhist Jane scholar who was involved with the project to rebuild the University of nalanda there is actually a project. I think it’s GoFundMe they’ve got a few buildings together in the sight of the original Lando and they’re trying to read read read homes the university basically and good luck to them today it’s also in in the Westmore has a practice some people who’ve had those initiator experiences see if it worked with but it’s time trap and and Hindu Tantra now run workshops and cool-season and teach the experience which is found I’m not running just a little kind of petitions people at your show tradition he was a kind of mavyret time for teacher in fact more from a Jane lineage then put us but he was an omnivore he started to hold which is our pleasure and Delight in the 20th 21st century we can do that for the first time since we’re coming to a place of global wisdom I mean another scholar practitioner is Nick Douglas he’s written a wonderful History of Time truck dating it back to the Ice Age agency isn’t Himalayas and of course these ideas came into Weston Lisa Terra traditions of the Golden Dawn and and the fella might traditions and another’s the question that arises just some final force that is there a West increments temperature if that’s what episode what would what we do in the west Will Young discovered that affect the 10 for traditions of Christian you’re a locked into alchemical this kills its mate that stuff the tantric practices survived they written in codified in symbolic form because these are dangerous times you be done as a heretic but they rule Center in the in the Primal primary religions of Europe I think the very word Druid for instance is related to the Tantra Judas to see who sees the dhamma sees the truth and I think it’s absolutely suck butt in the Celtic world The Druids understood exactly the same kind of metaphysics that the tantric practitioners didn’t know they would like the same people living in different geographical locations and has come down to The Croods teachings written down and in monastic schools in an island and miles and song about that Pantheon of deities about the waking the fundamental energies about the powers of Clairvoyance about that down the standing of the link between the universes so I think you could say that the Celtic Russian Tundra and I think that’s the same is true in Galva traditions of European culture in the in Scandinavian Norse Germanic Anglo-Saxon the world the Odin Mysteries and song sizes that the mystery of the Rings DVD several times if you look into them there about affirming Wells the Gold’s even the concept of the Rainbow Bridge transcon song it’s like an encoding in in mythological form of what time should prostitution is what we’re exploring experientially I would say the same in ancient Greece and its range resting that time heroes Camus the sacred marriage was was seen as the quintessence of the mysteries of ancient Greek culture you went to the mystery schools you studied you learned and if you would like you experience the heroes Camus which was which was the sacred Union of Zeus and Hera the god in the goddess which I’m delay Greek civilization I need a practitioner of the Mysteries in a sense participation Heroes, so sacred marriage and the Greeks understood the power and sexy as something arras was divine was Plato explained but it but in the concept of what happens in the Greek flashing Tundra is that is that the purely physical erupted love is sublimated is is worked into a higher mystical of Aphrodite urania which is what we go to Tonic love and that. Transmutation I would say is is equivalent to what rhymes with some cells with doing and I apply to a managed to get to the Himalayas met some of these but it’s time lyrics and song I’m he live just to piss off the butt of so it’s possible I’m sure they would have got on best best friends and they knew about Enlightenment he talks about license he talks about in the vision of the cave when you come out of the darkness and you see the pendant light it’s the same vision and heels it talks in the middle of the end of the Republic about life after death it’s a report of a near-death experience which is exactly the same as in the Indian Hindu Buddhist to the World Systems so I think you know we have the same in philosophy actually Plato’s The Great Link in the chain of the philosophical transmission I think it’s the same in Pythagorean metaphysics I think Pythagoras in his switches to 10 dots that make an equilateral triangle which is an issuance have to swear by that is a diagram in fact one of the forms that tend to express itself throughout through the mental exposed by Young and the young I mean that’s the sacred you and me and say all the animals he has his disciples of sworn to secrecy so none of this what’s was Chad’s publicly but it was it was the absence of phosphate the love of wisdom what is that but what I’m talking about it’s that it’s that guy into the Mysteries at the farming the beauties of the mundane and daring to linkage so that attract is tells the story of how the one becomes two which in turn becomes three three dots the Trinity the triangle which in time become a fool the Crotona see the square and under is 10 dots some of the entirety of creation I thought were supposed to learn mathematics and he was able to explain this math magic trick with a Hindu mimes doing the same the great Hindu man mathematicians have discovered the idea of the zero the cycle which is incredibly important because that came from their experience of the Void shunyata it is one key idea that that you need to get hold of can understand time for its conception me on to this entire visible manifestation is emptiness but the internet’s is the oldest is the Divine goddess herself is the Bliss right now that conception you know you can imagine some great 10 traits of a scholar coming up with this idea my God I’m going to revolutionize Matt’s I’m going to stick his ear of it that’s that’s more or less how it happened antivirus is reputed to have gone to India it’s very very interesting this is a field Peter Kingsley and all the people of recess she rides a Wonderful Life of his Peter King deals to read a fantastic but the top places wisdom about Parmenides he’s a kind of Weston philosophical Butterfinger like Shankar who emphasized the night for being right so that would be the one known big is is the 0 and it’s the relationship between the two will the two of the male and female symbols the one in the zero what she put them together they make 10 night which is which is infinity so say we haven’t seen the last this is what I’m trying to say and I mean I’m not going to get into pass details you can you can work it out for yourself but it’s that it’s magical where is it in Christianity but I do I think it’s I think it’s in the tradition at its best I think it’s in Christ affirmation of life is turning water into wine at the wedding in Cana is love of the female his his effectively turned relationship with Mary Magdalene Christ was not approved he was not against this world what he was doing was bridging called the infinite Eternal into this well that’s the whole point of the Incarnation in a sense he’s the avatar for the West he is to come see what tension practitioner if you the problem is the names why do we have to pull it Christianity or something that’s let some let’s let’s the firm in silence learn Hearts do Unity undermine movies and then hopefully we can attain peace on the Spanish I’d also say it’s in Islam as well because notwithstanding mad General smash country temples in India self would have understood and resume sheets and everything I’ve been saying today I think Muhammad was himself on the phone said she has he didn’t have the conceptual Seafood City of Auburn academic retrain mind he didn’t he didn’t never heard of Plato probably never knew Greek philosophy he was he was a family you know desert Bedouin huge spiritual experiential wisdom in his cave what’s the Caillou for the place where attention cuz what’s he getting these channeling messages from from from Ally the infinite deal with boys and if you I mean Sunday future Scholars will have to go through the Koran re chronologize is on tangled web do what the Bible had done Foothill High criticism find which bits what kind of added later to buy committees which fits what time that would insult I think you’ll find this concept of surrender submission to the absolute is it is a precondition for any of them to town trap everything I’ve talked about you can’t even get to the first base of it unless you surrender to God you have to you have to immerse yourself in the boys and say I’m nothing I know nothing I’m ignorant that was Socrates point I know nothing I’ve been just ask that at that point gold the gold Spirit if you lucky might give you a glimpse of the precondition for any hot for the heist in Islamic school Sufism many inches you have the understanding of the bluff it you have the link between male and female Affirmed anybody Herbie’s teachings Andrea Mason all the great Seafood space account and on that Assisted Living tradition unite to fight you and I’ve done this kind of could stop tomorrow if we can have a seminar on time for some family on Buddha statues built by tantric Buddhist Afghanistan vs Central country produce in Paterson public I need to know we can sit down with the Muslim Scholars the British scholars in add Representatives different solutions and as it was surrendering you I think to remake that cousin of the anschluss each of us individually owned Canada now needs to resend a new and and and Camilla put the guns away countries it doesn’t really like Finance ultimately it’s a piece lineage finances is possible life okay and it’s positive manifestation and tantrix traditionally used to eat meat in a sacred ritual sometimes it it Tundra is wise enough to know that death is not necessarily the tragedy that everybody thinks it’s just two transportation to form and even the Christian Mast sacraments is an enactment of that tension tonnage to death in life orange connected and I’ll cavemen ancestors used the sacraments of meat to survive the long winters of the Ice Age it was a sacred vehicle just as for the American Indian I think there’s a realist about here but what he did to was absolutely minimize. Violence it’s about compassion say just as the American Indian Hunter when he kills the Buffalo he use the tool he uses the skin of the bones the music keeps him alive makes his toes makes his Tepee and you give thanks to great spirit for the I’m so the tantric accepts life gives thanks for the life process I’m an honest soul stirrers and it stopped. Reverence that That’s essential. You know the other thing of the township stood in their rituals was was used in Hebron since you know why does she fight tentrix use use cannabis is a sacral sacral to achieve sacred Consciousness just as interested parents do I did indeed in India still it’s it’s legal for shy by 10 tricks that are allowed to use that sack with come inside for me so those things kind of forms of accessing ecstasy as seen as supplemental add-ons I didn’t think you need them but I think some people it helps and I think I’d be very interesting if if the West experiment with liberalising some of its rules and regs on on ecstasy in in the generic sense and instead of putting people in prison for wanting to explore their Consciousness actually gave them learning and teaching and education and stop being kind and unlicensed you can access this stuff along with the appropriate wisdom mornings not helpful things but was Des Moines you know you might die if you can see the stuff that’s your choice that’s not 270 take x amount in which case you might go to have a brief play be prepared. So I mean I mean cancel that 4 would have should we say that we just finished with a condolence the political agenda on the pond at the moment it’s not like reading of the planet it’s about reconnecting with our primordial roots it’s about opposing and and re-education to rival rampant monotheism so they destroying this planet people with a very small idea of God and we got access to weapon power are ruining this planet for the rest of us I didn’t think the gods a happy and I think that’s why this Crock-Pot if you have a tall is currently on this planet the living Saints and sages instead of teaching this wisdom and I think it’s because guess that’s being Italian Delight in others being this being assertive from too many temples of being done to watch knowledge is being suppressed too much he’s too turnt wisdom has been suppressed too many think has to be mounted on a still being monitored you know you properly without freedom of thought freedom of experience is not enough freedom and Chandra simply radical Enlightenment and and peace as it’s always been did you look for the Yellow Hat’s the Dalai Lama says you don’t need an actual physical pump you didn’t need to engage an actual sexual practices you can remain celibate and just imagine it what they do is they imagine that sacred consoles and they do have somebody country practices but they don’t actually need a living life customers fine this was the I drove song copper you lived in Fulton Centre who was it was a very wise practitioner but I think icing Buddhism tantric Buddhism is still being too bad today on the Chinese wouldn’t be running the place if they capture the old school teachings I think what time is somebody brought in the most was a total Devotion to the land and that included The Women fake you called cut yourself off from womankind totally and I’m still a fan of life that was promised almost teaching that was the name of his teacher with with the Yellow Hat I mean this is the dear old Tylenol Mannino’s is sort of holding on in dharmasala not sure if he wants another Incarnation you know it’s like what kind of a commitment is that and this is this is something the pension of in Tibetan Buddhism pendulums the secret in ahead and he was more from the old school teachings it’s raining dressing to the West is supposed to admit that then pension lump she made it to she gets a I didn’t see a sophical lord there’s a whole ancient wisdom library on the she gets a written in ancient texts tonight from ancient ancient times so I’m just to say just in one of these charts sources just just a sprain dressing it is sad that he was The Reincarnation of tongue couple making out for what he thought I suspend judgment but in my work is a TransPass the historian what I’m trying to resolve critical and rationally and I could Emich me about these kind of mystical States and observations the things that actually asked questions about Princeton’s Reincarnation of Dynamics in history just want Stine Rasta pouch in the, lectures you know it’s a bit behind the times in catching up with the web that actually needed on the planet so that’s why it’s it’s a delight to go to talk about say the history of tension with you because it gives a knife review from a TransPass in perspective what’s actually going on thank you for listening to the podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or team up and I can’t repent. 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Open Source Intimacy with Devika the Techy Tantrika TPP131

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In this episode I’m joined by dear friend and tantric comrade Devika the Techy Tantrika. She has been one of the brightest apple’s of my eye for many years and it’s been delightful to share mutual support and encouragement as we’ve bootstrapped our tantric coaching and counseling brands. We’ve always talked shop and helped each other keep up with trends and this podcast episode gives a glimpse into our ongoing banter.

About Devika:

Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.

You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika

You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township on podcast episode number 131 I am here with a very distinguished gentle woman and her name is devika Singh and she is VTEC e x chica YouTube same and if you haven’t been over to her YouTube channel to look at her amazing instructional tantric sex and self relationship advice and just great wisdom all the videos you been putting out over over a couple years now leased yet several years are just trying to you know get that loving good energy out there to folks and help people discover more opportunities for self-love them in better relating in their lives and so and then with assertive text Spin and Edge cuz you have that background as well so without further Ado do you want to tell us a bit about how you came to be the tech country care what the what GIF you have to offer these days awesome thank you so much thank you yes I was you mentioned I’m too because I’m your techies country, so I have been doing YouTube I have to actually I should start off by saying I did take a break what’s a med 2017 so you know middle of last year because I started getting really busy with my practice and and I actually decided to go back to school and I’ll get into why I am just a little second a little bit but what inspired me to do YouTube alongside with going full-time with my coaching practice was that I know that you mention I’m a selfish relationship coach as well as its hundreds X coach and a big part of that for me was always helping people understand where they stand in the equation of their lives right because for me I feel like southcare spans over many different aspects of the South sulita mental emotional energetic sexual and physical right like we are constantly evolving as people but we’re also honor thing ourselves right here always actually just trying to not just take care of ourselves but enhance our lives so that’s always been a big part of my my existence as a coach I’ve been coaching I was trying to figure this out the other day cuz I was doing it part-time in an awful lot so I’ve been honestly coaching for about 14 years I do have a diploma in life coaching but I I actually was doing it before that too because I actually just had like people even in parties and like social Gatherings when I was actually even quite young like you know 1920 just feel really comfortable with me and start talking to me about you know the their life dilemmas when I started realizing I had a really good knack for helping people and transitions in their lives but I always felt like something was missing and I was always curious about talking about that is I got into finding my teachers and embracing Eastern philosophies and especially with Tibetan Buddhism I started really understanding myself as a x Rika and I really wanted to share that with people and as you mentioned I worked in taxes well I have recreational coating background and I always really stand behind tag because I feel like that’s revolutionising everything for us like I feel like air in our society has stagnated in certain Arenas and I feel like heck is going to help he’ll be here about disruptive Tech and I feel like. Disruption in many ways help us help our society actually evolved faster and much better ways than we could have without it right like it also connects us if it wasn’t for the internet then we wouldn’t even describe people like you and to meet them in person like this is it I just think you’re so lucky to be in this time you know yeah do you have any more to say about the disir your journey to this point or do you want to talk now about what what people can be looking looking for on your YouTube channel some of the topics you’ve gone into yeah let’s talk about that I’d be more than glad to so actually I created the YouTube channel when I went full-time with my practice because I was having a hard time kind of explaining to people what I do when I first started I actually was gearing more towards single people right I noticed single people were the ones that seemed most interested in what I was doing prior to going full force with my practice it was like okay I’ll be a single singles coached but then I started realizing my clients were actually people who are married already but a lot of them had felt alienated in their relationships are wanted to re-engage the spark in their relationship select a few ingredients of thought and then I realized you know what like ice had less sink people actually coming to me for one on one coaching but I also wanted to do singles clinics I live in Toronto Ontario in Canada but I started also you can notice saying that for example meetup.com is changing their policies and they were no longer allowing dating coaches to even have like dating Clinic signals clinics I start saying through their service and I was like well I could do this through Facebook but there’s something not quite right here there’s something weird going on for me so I was really just tapping and try to figure out well you know if people who are married are the ones are coming to me why not just continue to cater towards that niche market so you’ll notice on my YouTube channel I do to a lot of dating advice and I also started writing at 1:44 she does the city which is a Blog for women in Toronto it’s a lot of its dating and sex advice but I also started really putting an emphasis on self-pleasure and I actually prefer the term self-pleasure over masturbation is masturbation tends to have a negative connotation for people I think even if it’s Latin roots are the best either like it doesn’t exactly translate to the amazing as it is self-pleasure and I feel like you know when we’re on a touch of Journey we’re on a journey to self-discovery it begins with us you know so I have put an emphasis I have a playlist on my channel and specifically for some pleasure and I also have a playlist for dating advice and for self improvement and you know just what I would say if anybody is new to my channel take a look at my playlist because I do actually have you know I try to categorize them as best as I could also because I’m a huge nerd most player I found wonderful ways to bring minor dumb and my love for Tech Trends in the intersect sometimes it to my face by Channel X I like to have fun and creative Endeavors like creativity something also I think really drives home to self care and self-love so I was quite busy I was doing you know what the weekend I feel like there’s a lot of material on there and I just you don’t try to organize the best site might possibly could to help people with you know whatever they’re looking for you know because something to is he could go to my channel for one thing but then end up finding something else entirely that intrigues you or helps you solve an issue too so you don’t have a lot of people just email me and thanked me for the free information cuz I like I really do like providing free information and the coaching aspect I I provide that because I feel like we have you may have one problem but then being able to discuss those problems and actually personalized and work through those is so imperative so I’m about to head out to people who have with my clients that need on that level as well so it’s just really nice to like when you have enough should you get this to all the time. Just people you never met emailing you say thank you so much for what you provide us you know that’s cool that’s really what you wanted to head home and just you know spread this information like wildfire it looks just like you do and that by the way I’m loving everything that you do cryptocurrency right now like it’s just a mind-blowing wonderful to me like you’re doing such a great job with bridging like Ops 4 people amazing awesome thanks so much well yeah I I love your work and I have you as the top of my my playlist on the the University of time trip playlist that I put together which is got all kinds of wild stuff is it a good introduction yet especially bringing in the shamanic aspects of you want to talk about you or your philosophy of Tantra really and I know you you really have that you have a flair for the Buddhist infections of Tantra and so yeah it should be a great a great time and place to kind of give a unique perspective that you have witches you brought me really into an understanding and appreciation for the the Met police Traditions which in some ways you could say have preserved some of the most pristine copies of the database from the ancient times so but you know with all that said you were your secret Tantra but I know they’ll be so many more opportunities in the future is wild to do this because it almost does feel like a secret like I I would love to relate as best as I can but you will you ensure you know this is Tantra is very hard to find publicly but I think a lot of it is hidden in plain sight like and that’s the beauty of it really like I’ve had I love the analogy of just like people walking by the treasure chest everyday and not realizing it’s there it’s there in plain sight but if people it’s only there to exactly the knowledge of the wisdom of non-duality just very much like what they refer to in Buddhism it’s like if you look at the way tonsura is practice like in Hinduism for example and also Buddhism the idea of taking what’s taboo and embracing it is very much a part of these traditional religious systems around Todd’s Road I like taking for example bodily fluids and I know in him to talk to her I like her certain sectors are sects of Hinduism where it is toxic Hinduism and they’ll take things that are considered taboo mainstream Hinduism and use that in their religious practices so like it could be poly fluids it could be like meat sex could also obviously be a part of that as well alcohol I’ve heard of being used in those sex as well and I’m not saying that you have to practice with a hindrance talked about this talk-to-text what other other one might completely you know take you by storm and you makes us fall in love with you know the kids would say with Buddhist talks for that’s really appeal to me for example but the idea behind that is that you’re embracing what human Humanity has considered let’s say disgusting or an appealing and understanding in that process that it’s all one in the same you know to say one thing is gross or you know just you know unworthy and then the other thing is sacred this is not you know this is not what you’ll find in time for us how tall is looking at Everything Is Beautiful one of my favorite books call Todd request I’m not I’m not going to ruin it for anybody I just highly recommend the book masontops Rica in the whole book where she’s that’s one thing she’s really teaching her students she’s just teaching him the you know like one thing is like a fairy say for example of leprosy disease shouldn’t be just throw it off to the side over there like we should be acknowledging this is a part of life and you know and embracing that this can happen to people but also helping people learning took the nozzle Italy and compassionately live you know what illness or disease that’s that’s for me that’s a very big part of what I’ve done as well as a talk to me, like I have hopped I had help people who are living with animals that are both debilitating and also you know might be considered taboo and Society or like you know like looked upon as like as for example STDs and STIs fortunately and there’s always been some weird stigma around the sort of thing and psychologically it’s actually been proven that when people try to hide illnesses they actually deteriorate faster like so you know that it’s just it’s unfortunate for me to see Louise Hay of the Harris Foundation who she found it that has Fun Station one of her biggest things to Chief time in her life was helping people who had just contracted HIV during the introduction of HIV you know like the time when we first started seeing it in North America and her work was so amazing because you know she was showing people that you don’t have to be ashamed because you have those you know it’s it was so beautiful to see the kind of counseling work that she did and also in group settings you know which I think Community settings are so amazing support groups incredible whether it’s a physical illness or mental illness you know it’s just it’s one aspect of Tantra thankfully going off path but a little bit but it’s something I think worth mentioning because you know racing life and whatever it brings us is very much a part of town tomorrow like you know one thing one of my teachers Devi Ward had mentioned was once what is the Swift path and what you meant by that was that when you are practicing counselor about your lessons will come very fast and makeup faster than if you weren’t practicing at what times are hard they’re hard and fast and to be able to weather that storm EPPICard of that is understanding this down to Valatie and realizing when things are not going so well when they are going so well there’s like a middle part down the middle of that will help you navigate that right that will help you understand that what are things are Graver things or negative like are there temporary that there’s a Equanimity down the middle which is very spoke about Buddhism the we can maintain and you know true that there is a sort of a pleasure and happiness in obtaining bad right so this is something that comes up a lot in all of the aspects of Tantra I have studied and then when we talk about let’s say for example Neo talks about which is what we really see in North America most we do look at sex and intimacy here a lot and I think that that’s also important because we are living in a society unfortunately that’s still not like I’ve had people say to me how can you say the society sex negative because you know we have nudity available to us not forcing them like wolves. About whether or not it’s available it’s our mentality around it why is it that in Europe I can go to a spa more frequently and be naked and not has my body constantly he looked at sexually you know like my body is my body our bodies are our bodies it’s it’s what we’re born with like it’s not always sexualize thing it’s like I feel like nudity is a Perfectly Natural State for us so you know like I feel like I know and it’s freezing so you know I’m grateful for clothes in many ways and it helps me also you know be creative to lie cuz I think of clothes of something I could be creative with but that’s the same time I don’t see what the big deal is when some of these make it feel like I just I don’t like I think that being naked so beautiful thing and and incorporating that into our life must be so much more amazing like I almost feel like this restraint on sexual freedom is actually a way that is being used in marketing to Market to people when people are unhappy and when they feel uncertain about themselves and they’re not confident they’re so much easier to Market to and I think it just feeds into consumerism that’s my take on that and that’s why she put car driving back to school because well one of the was any of the we’ve talked about social media before I can’t advertise for example my YouTube video I have free content I have completely follow the community standards for YouTube but I’m not allowed on any social media that has a sex educator to advertise no sex educator is maybe unless they have a really good PR firm the recognize let’s say buy a newspaper or liquids in a writing for the newspaper or they have their best selling author you know like unless they are somehow going through certain stereospecific channels they are not allowed because of the keywords they have and I think that’s ridiculous I feel like that you know and I’m sex education Advocate because of the fact that it has people’s lives so we need to have discussions around sexuality and intimacy but at the same time why are these channels being blocked like I think of the full grown adult and knowing that we have the technology to discern between whether you know the child is surfing Facebook or who shouldn’t be because like I think it be 14 or over anyways to have a Facebook account or have your parents sign it either way I like what I’m saying is they know they have a pretty good understanding in a lot of these Arenas of what the age group is the person wants like looking at it and also there’s nothing explicit when I’m advertising you know my work is a sex educator there’s nothing explicit about it when any sex educator is advertising so I really don’t understand why sex educator is a therapy lumped in with my opinion the key words with pornography right like I’m like okay fine I can understand why adults entertainment is Italian for adults and should be advertised the adults but sex addict Mission as it is most of us don’t even get a proper you know level sex education in school some of us have none you know if that man has always been looking for the stuff I think that it should be easier for me to find this information you know or to have at least be some sort of encouragement to go looking for this information cuz they’re so many amazing sex Educators in this on this continent it’s mind-blowing what a great Community we have here you know I’ve worked with I work with a person who is a sex educator in the tundra field and he was I think was one of the first ones that not one of the only ones to get sex ed seemed content up for the one of the affiliate marketing platforms where you can have other people you know your stuff it was such a fight yes it is besides Google AdWords and Facebook ads you know it it’s it’s made me kind of have to think out-of-the-box a bit cuz you know you understanding this feeling this pain Point really and then what was exciting what I wanted to operate a tip to you and anyone else now is that a yeah there’s a decentralized cryptocurrency platform called steam at that is basically a Blog posting video hosting website that you can sign up for and actually get paid in cryptocurrency for your content so when people vote your posts you’re actually getting financial compensation for it and and there’s monetary value is monetizing user content and it’s also based on this thing called the interplanetary file system which is basically like a bit torrent of file sharing so that you can host your website files on there and it can’t be censored it’s Packer resistant and it can’t be for now I’m here making music and painting murals but now is so much more aligned and with more resources and energy directed in a way that is that is just more useful for everybody I hope to continue learning and I feel very thankful to be in connection with the people that you know that I have been meeting the whole crypto art murals is for me away to you know as a writer at hard and as a writer as a trade putting out content in a written way is really useful but it doesn’t reach everybody if you don’t have internet and you don’t know how to read you’re not going to get this information and so painting a mural in a community where the art is available to everybody and you can just stand in front of it and be curious just feel sad feel happy feel whatever it is and ignite your curiosity for your own research that is insanely powerful and I know that because I have cried in front of murals I have taken pictures in front of murals that made me realize something about myself and that is one aspect right off the the the massive big scale Arts that can that can provide a message for an entire community and then the other aspect is supporting these artists you know myself and then everybody else who is he struggling so much to do what they love and they’re so good at it and and disciplining of wealth in the right hands is an opportunity for us to fill up every single block of the changing out for the artist to paint if that’s what they want to do the visual artist want to paint or the artist want to make music or the artist who wants you to create experiences that are interactive and then for the people who are good at managing and just love discovering and helping and connecting to do just that and do not have to do all the other things and for the web developers to develop the west side so I see just amongst my own friends and connections here how much energy and time we’re wasting by not working together and so the more people I meet in the blockchain crypto crypto blockchain connection space the more I want to all of us to do our shows and commercials together because it makes no sense for everybody to be spending their energy resources in building a website if you hate billing website you know like if you want to paint just paint and then we’ll find people to build a website for you and and I’ve encountered a lot of people fear based in this space who are all about competition and want to do their nails and they don’t want anything to do with other brands and then I encourage I mean I’ve encountered so many more people on the collaborative side and that’s where I know a couple that’s where it what I felt that are not a couple, but I felt like ripping psychedelic people were down to connect and they said yes to all the projects and let’s get on a phone call and it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from if you want to help and it aligns let’s do it you know and that is really refreshing and I think that’s the the Psychedelic for open minded or meditation more expensive way of looking at this movement awesome God you want to talk more about just practicing meditation and what sort of how your your spiritual processes and maybe tips you have for people who are coming into here wanting to participate in this technology space and an actually starting to you know they say the first time you start to have some actual games in your cryptocurrency portfolio than I can say from experience I just want to give my life to the movement because it’s changed my life so much and I want to just be in service but I’m not a coder and I’m not really I’m kind of a wannabe geek so imagine making this cultural Ambassador you know doing that like if we were talking about him in franchising people you have said yes to Justin tips about what it’s like to be adapting to this new I mean you’re providing a platform for people to express themselves and you’re finding people like me who you know I’m nobody in this world and at the same time I very I feel like I’m a very important piece of the puzzle and I haven’t always felt that way my own SoCal you wasn’t where it’s at and I you know I need the others and you need the others and so you already doing so much and I really appreciate you reaching out and wanting to give a voice to people like me who maybe you’re not on the you know I feel like I’m behind the scenes a lot and now you can’t necessarily reach out to to you know I don’t know bigger a larger what it’s called platforms and say Authority terribly I need to speak on this or be on a panel specifically and yet at the same time so many opportunities like this have presented themselves to me like being on humans of Bitcoin or the libertarian Radio free talk live or your show and so many others and so it’s it’s such a beautiful synchronous synchronicity how we all find each other and I’m being hard open to supporting each other and that’s what it’s all about so to me when people ask me what is a blockchain artist what makes you a crypto artist or what how can I get involved in this way if I don’t have any coding skills or if I don’t have any if I don’t feel like a nerd at hard or any or if I don’t have any connection the truth is that most of the people that are even curious about this movement or that believe in Freedom are already a part of this movement you know what I mean and it’s just lack of Education or lack of information and lack of system or container though it’s being created right now and so anything that you care about and if you respect freedom and the evolution of humankind through compassion and love that is blockchain with me and I know it sounds really extreme for some people but it’s really is I mean if your yoga teacher you can download and secure whatever wallet of your choice I love Edge they you know they just upgraded to their shape-shifting converting application which I didn’t have before and I just downloaded it and it’s my favorite wallets I always recommend that you use in a hot while they’re on your phone you can just download something like that in three seconds and all of a sudden your yoga teacher who takes crypto you know what I mean it in Seoul I’m in this is what I do at my my events like that we have the exist festival.com for South by Southwest and is not an official South by event is a disruptive one because even though I love songs by and I painted a giant mural for South by that’s going to be showing at the Expo Center for Austin Rodeo I love what they’re doing so many ways they’ve also turn down quite a few female speakers for the blockchain panel and I don’t know enough about what they’re doing and I’m sure there’s reasons why everybody dusted the things I do but I think it’s important to set up other events are outside of the you know of the gates of South by in the rules and so on so that’s what we do at our events you know we set up a men’s where where we can bring in a bunch of artists who have never heard of a crypto before or who are interested in it and teach him how to download a wallet and then make their sales are there vending whatever they’re running t-shirts and arts and whatever in crypto in there you got like that’s all it takes so when I get on an Uber or Lyft or Rideshare I asked them if they take crypto and they look at me like I’m crazy then I showed them how to download the wallet and then I took them in crypto and when I go to any any local shop or any restaurant I just automatically always ask do you take pepto and they just look at me confused and then they ask and then I tell them and so it’s just word of mouth and that’s it very small way in which and how we can educate each other just ask about it as if it’s part of your normal life because to me and to you it is you know and so the more people we have on the system to better that easier we’re all going to to evolve within this I don’t know if the answer is exactly the question who want to just be ya be a part of the movement and and adapt and actually alter reality one day at a time just with whatever means you have you know yeah that’s exciting is that you know I’ve had I’ve had a similar kind of weather journey of just wanting to onboard friends and just get people excited about it and really the best way to do it is just to get them started with some in just a few or I’m going to split the mule and give you your you know percentage of Crypt or whatever and and that just gets that gets the party started for for anybody and I see why you’re talking I was imagining they’re being a i y bet there’s got to be some art galleries in the world that just give what is QR codes on every piece so in case you don’t want to buy it you can just tip the artist while you’re there be a white of all the art that I’m so like thrilled to behold in my eyes when I go to an art gallery I would go in there with a budget to tip all the all the artist that I thought really blew my mind you know that’s a whole number and thank you for saying that because I seriously have been wanting to make a video on this for so long thank you for reminding me I want I want all the spray paint artist mural is due to get a QR code stencil and so many times that I’ve been moved by a mural and I yeah you can buy it and you can buy a piece by the artist I’m just freaking said man like $1 a hundred people $1 and then you go home and the artist girl out in the world like how insanely amazing about education if nobody told me that I could do better if I wasn’t a part of this movement I would not have either. So yes I think every Gallery should have a key or code next to their pieces for sure and hopefully work making it easier and easier to have these things be more accessible and just like you said you know split a meal and pay in in crypto just like you would do with venmo or PayPal is very easy and another thing that I think is important to mention is that at first when Bitcoin came out in the early adopters now that Bitcoin was more like a Welsh holding system and still now you know it’s people assume that that you have to have a lot of money to get into crypto but I love the people at and dash dash people talked about this a lot and then cash and Litecoin you don’t fast transaction this is a system that I believe in I’m so tired of using Banks and I’m so tired of using Fiat I don’t want it anymore so I don’t actually hold its on a crypto I’m not at a point where my Abundant Life reflects in my in my wallet but I do get to use crypto every day to do my everyday things and every time a little more and so even if you just want to download a wallet and put 10 bucks into either or 10 bucks into like going or Dash or whatever your favorite currency is just put it there and do nothing with it and check it again in a month and see what happens or just how about you don’t have something like $100 and whenever you go do something if they take crypto you can transfer that and just start really small it’s it’s such a mountain of information that I can be very overwhelming I sign up for a steaming a couple a couple weeks ago and I’ve heard about steemit for for those of you who don’t know it’s a platform like it has all these different channels you can blog writing you can put up videos it’s basically a decent realized turn off all the social media that we use today so right now if you comment on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter or Instagram you don’t get paid for your value and reviewing people’s content but on steemit you basically get rewarded for being an active member of the community you get paid for voting for curating and you can receive a lot of steam power and crypto money basically for producing good content that is useful to people and it cannot be tamed innocence other than by the users and the population and so it’s a really amazing system in everyone’s use it for a long time but I was kind of intimidating by it finally I made an account into two and a half weeks to clear which is insane and and I’ve been getting super overwhelmed with learning how to use it and I just try to continue to watch one video day and do little things at a time and in no time I’ll be an expert you know that’s all it takes so just I hope that people don’t get over Round And if you’re curious just continue learning just a little bit at a time you don’t have to be an expert overnight exactly. I’m glad yes team is amazing and probably going to totally crush it on there just is it doing writing published his stuff it’s been specially in the crypto space is people that it’s amazing some of the mounts you can get off of that and it shows you how big data is really extracting so much value from users of platforms and it’s it’s it’s not going to be long before just because it’s free means that you just give them all your data and sign away the property rights and all that stuff is is going to be replaced by this micropayment ecosystems where people can support each other you know value in the content that they consume and and being really well well supported in and I think it’s going to do the asking to do a lot of amazing some of her friends yesterday we were talking about all them you know thousands of jobs disappearing as robots take over and Singularity and all the stuff and at some point in my life I was really concerned about this you know yet where are aliens off drivers truck drivers going to go when we have also if driving cars do you know all the stuff but the answer is blanching all these people will be doing things in blockchain I will be getting paid well for it and it’ll take less time and I mean from the Tim Ferriss 4-Hour Work Week on and everything. Having high developments off technology and be more efficient with our time does not mean that we is not does not need to be scary you know there’s a lot of stuff within fast Evolution that is that is concerning to me specially how fast were developing and growing and how our security initiatives are not all the party yet and I think we’re getting there so there’s a lot of concern of course but anyting however I don’t think that we all really grasp or we’re starting to now how how much we really don’t have to work 90 hours a week or whatever the ridiculous things we do you know that the whole point of this is that micro payments and micro contributions from everybody involved will react what time for us to to be humans to exist to just let me know this is such an interesting new development in the sort of f have that imprint of a techno dystopia since childhood from all the Sci-Fi and I watched it and then you know you imagine this world where humans are made up sleep by robotic technology and Ai and I’ve been pretty sure that those prospects especially now is drones of coming to the picture and now I really feel like it as of this moment this kind of is really the undeniable presence in the now of both of those dystopic seems coming coming nauseous to come to life but coming into existence but then as you’re saying which is actually so Redemptive for sheep the human soul is that like she was an example something might you might have some thoughts on as far as empowerment but it’s like the the sort of this myth of the scarcity of worthwhile productive labor that can be done with from picking up trash to planting trees to cleaning up toxic waste like through the blockchain micropayments and sort of micro temporary employment contracts that can really enfranchise all the homeless people to get a micro crypto payment without actually showing up and waiting in line to get in the welfare program or get into a you know some sort of job placement program you can just be like you know you show up on the there’s some spill like a whip there’s some kind of cleanup has to happen and people can just mop it and and have day labor crypto payments and there will really never be a gap between meaningful work and and fair pay and there’s plenty of wealth in the crypto world alone to finance stuff like that and even if you know whether it’s through a nonprofit system or through taxes done I mean I’m not going to endorse taxes in general but but you kind of know what I’m saying so how do you feel about that you feel like that’s the direction we’re going to go and there are so many projects that have mind-blowing for example the green miners are looking into mining basically with all green energy from turning trash into clean energy so that things like Bitcoin mining don’t have to take resources as we know them now and there are so many projects in the space for cleaning up the oceans and cleaning up the air and I’m bringing food to the right places and replanting trees and replenishing the soil I mean there if you think of any good initiatives going on in the world for every single one of them there is at least one crypto person who is trying to intercept and connect and there are some barriers you know like the the extreme hippies and I don’t mean that in any negative or positive connotation specifically just outside another word to use like the Crypt on earth and the cryptic Crypt of hippies and all these people like hippies like me back in the day when I when I was in Turkish hippie confused and all of this integrating technology and really scared of it I never imagined in my life that I would be here talking about technology I like but at the same time I see like you said you know how directly this has impacted my life I live a better life I can eat better food because I have my bills taken care of more often because I am connecting projects that feed my soul in that feed my pocket and and it’s just it’s just acknowledge he’s not going anywhere so yes hearing drones zooming around in the air concerns me especially there’s no privacy laws about this and I’m sure I am in plenty of videos just public random videos of people have of course all that is concerning to me but at the same time if I can get drones to massively plant trees and water them creating on cleaning water and stain of away and replenishing the Salt Lake of course I want that also so it’s a fine balance you knowing yeah there’s just there’s just so many opportunities and I’m a very hopeful first person you know and Technologies not going anywhere in the craziest disasters are going on in the world are very real and I’m very aware of my privilege and I’m honored for just being able to be a voice and a part of this movement in any way but if you are truly concerned if you’re a person sitting there and you are really really against technology my best advice to you is to get involved you know what I mean just get involved and make sure that our our moral compasses are still true and that our time is being used efficiently because while I think it’s piercing experiencing abundance is a really healing thing for our communities that happen monkey trained into scar City and fear so I think that having lavish parties in exotic places when they are led by the right Compass when we’re doing no trash Left Behind when we’re also feeding and in helping those communities those are beautiful experiences I think also it’s very easy to fall into the you know greedy egotistical side of things and so we can be people on the sidelines criticizing this movement or we can just Dive Dive Right In whichever way feels comfortable to you and try to help from within you know absolutely yeah amazing so do you want to take can you talk a bit about you know obviously not to be tokenizing but I was really thrilled to know that Amanda B Johnson is the spokes person for Dash and they have a sort of a in the dash consensus system they’re they’re holding their whole their whole technological platform on the basis of it there’s money allocated in there sitting there a crypto economic ecosystems to support people in in roles as delegates and Advocates and Educators and I’m I’m wondering if you have some thoughts on connecting with or have you connected with women in crypto and just having more solidarity and more initiatives that are women lead and women find it and having the the voice and the the wisdom of Sisterhood in the crypto space which is is seriously it’s I don’t know I wouldn’t say this that I understand to be hyper sexist or it’s just a typically gender imbalance in technology for various reasons of course and but this is one of the most inviting and open-minded for thinking space is so I’m just curious if you have thoughts understand that aspect I do and I just want to throw in really quickly that Dash is doing some incredible incredible things to use this new currency in the everyday lives of people and changing a lot I mean I spoke with Danny the other day from the Crypt of showing radio station and just some of the projects he shared with me that they’re doing going to orphanage orphanage is camping outside open and to defend that old homes and rebuilding after after earthquakes all of these weren’t the weather doing in Mexico and helping people from the US and for Mexico to send each other Dash instead of Fiat you know making it super useful super accessible for them and actually turning crypto into into resources are they need whether it’s a new fan for their ceiling or food or whatever and so they are doing a lot of work right on the ground and putting you know when ATMs in crypto ATM there just it is amazing to see this dystopian Society for good and bad is already here as completely I mean crypto is already being used in so many daily activities all the time so much more that we know and I know that documentaries are being created and they will be available to all of us soon and every time more but there is so much more happening than we even inside are aware of you know every time I talk with anybody is it blows my mind all the projects are going on in and that this is the Hood part of it is another one and there are all these telegram groups going around some of them are called crypto women badass women in blockchain you know he’s different name there’s this group on Facebook called crypto queens and I have found some amazing amazing humans are working with the UN and women investing in women and funding each other’s projects and the Miami Conference the North America Miami Conference Bitcoin conference I had this one person run up to me this woman and she said hi sister if you’re a woman here I pretty much want to connect with you and she added me to his telegram group and I stole that from her in the best possible way so every time I’m at any blockchain event I run up to the women and I said Hey sister if you’re a woman in the space I want to connect with you and it’s just so beautiful and so I may be 5 or 10 different groups that are all women in blockchain and art projects in blockchain it is it is really unbelievable I’m actually really excited for the South by Southwest there is a bunch of the crypto Queens are coming down we’ve been talking about doing a documentary about women in crypto and I just hope that I get to interview them 10 minutes with each one in super supportive so it’s been quite interesting and of course there is still competition with in here and there but for the most part I find that women are really supportive of each other I also have been working with swarm City and the storm funds quite a bit I meant Joel from Joel Dietz from swarm and we talked about a bunch our projects and all the stuff happening and you express a lot of interest in supporting both blockchain art projects and women equality so I know swarm is now sitting around the survey to try to make sure that there are as many women as men users and their platform that’s really exciting and also so many surveys about how they want the tokens to be used and so on are hungry to include the community that’s what’s Tim Meadows all about right and that’s what these events are all about so I think I think we’re doing pretty good so far and I see how much more collaboration is going to is going to start happening you know just from from these telegram groups and how excited everybody is and and also how cool is that that we have telegram instead all our messages so that the government can hover information are private conversations it’s just it’s amazing we weave I feel sad about the fact that Facebook and all these social media platform orny or Cuban connection you know I honestly have so many thoughts where I say I don’t care if Facebook knows all my information or if they own all my media I just want to be able to share photos of my friends in Argentina and this is the easiest form so how sad is it that we were okay with all of our privacy and information being exploited and people making money off of us just because we’re so starved for human connection so I’m really excited to be able to do the same things we’ve been doing and use the good parts of Technology like social media in a way that it also filled up our pockets and our Spirits you know that is music to my ears thank you so much I’m so glad that I I mean I just just the fact that your video came up right after cryptos news and we’re in this moment have his conversation this is all such beautiful music to my ears and yeah it’s been I mean in my field in the world of Tantra sacred sexuality sexual healing in just the I think the most important thing in my studies in my experience for healing a planet and really saving the Earth is really being instrumental and being conducive to two women Sisterhood and a healthy positive empowering way and actually creating more financial Independence so that women as mothers can have more freedom and power and actual means to make more independent decisions with their bodies with their with their you know how they how much even breastfeeding I mean the most people don’t know that it’s pretty much understood that about 5 years is a typical pre-industrial young length of time to be breastfeeding infants on demand and imagine the kind of infrastructure changes that have to happen for that to be possible in the modern world but if anything’s going to make it happen it’s going to be the fruit of the work that people like you were doing and that’s as you know might just sort of Public Service Announcement about you know a sort of futuristic crypto feminism you know that I said that I want to contribute to I want to see happen is this more and more working together and in collaboration So yeah thank you for helping with that and Centric energy and learning some teachings of something that it’s pretty recent to me maybe two years and there’s so much to learn and I found so much healing and in all of these intersections of psychedelics meditation 10 trick work and crypto and it’s it’s so bizarre and no way to talk about technology and evolution and money in the same line that we talked about psychedelics and in self-healing love and all of this to no life force of energy but it is all the same thing it’s it’s just growing us a more compassionate and accepting loving human race you know that’s what it’s all about and at the same time that I’m really excited about all of these blockchain as a vehicle for 4 change I am really concerned about Wi-Fi and radiation and you know of course all of these a chemtrail crazy stuff that we put ourselves through so I’m putting out the intention into calling for more people to get involved in to figure it out other ways to connect the other internet in a way that it’s not so destructive for us and so there’s not some natural solutions and then there’s simple things we can do like turning off wi-fi at night when you go to sleep and self-education on this on this topic but I would love to hear more like I said Solutions and privacy are are something that we are now noticing that we need to work on more at the same time that we develop all these amazing systems right we need to wear we’re kind of like it’s floating and all this magical ways and now we need to start creating the containers that will keep us a lines into our missions as well yeah absolutely absolutely awesome well yeah I’m getting about 2 or if you’ll just totally mind blown and totally satiated by learning all this stuff all this great stuff that you’re doing do you feel free now to take some time to promote your efforts and talk about we have coming up in the future will people can be looking out for and and yeah we’ll we’ll call it a good introduction to hopefully we can also keep in touch on going up next and that is the exist festival.com that it’s a beautiful project where we are just connecting more and more people doing similar events and hoping that we can continue to collaborate so if anybody’s interested in anything that we’re doing please reach out there’s room for you to be fully creative in your own way and like I said it’s not about competition the abundance is there and in so many ways so that is South by Southwest Austin and then we have token Fest in San Francisco I will be there as well and then we have an art party in the bay somewhere so all this information will be on social media that is at my new brakes on Twitter or breaks on Instagram and I wanted to mention. So I most recently connected with gel polish and he’s doing art for addicts and he has a lot of projects going on in that world so I’m really excited to get more involved in healing the process of healing ourselves through ART and handling addiction because I believe technology is also an addiction right so being able to create those containers again and also few initiatives for the cleaning up the oceans and ocean token and just so many good projects coming up so anyway that I can that I can help or help you connect with those who will get you to where you want to be the green miners we clean energy any of that please reach out to me I would love to help out cool thank you again so much now Newburgh city has been such a pleasure and yet again thank you for just allowing me to be impulsive and send a message out to you and get you on the show and to know also that your ear integrating some the tantric wisdom in and works into your life it’s so exciting and I agree this is all just one big Kundalini blockchain Bliss Bellini black seamless hashtag that will be in touch in the future and thank you again so much sounds good thank you so much have a beautiful night. 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Taking a Stand for Sacred Sexuality with Tracy Elise TPP36

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tpp-tracy-elise-picIn this episode I interview Tracy Elise the founder of the Phoenix Goddess Temple. She is defending herself in a historic trial and facing multiple felony charges. She tells her story of providing non-profit sacred sexual healing services, offering spiritual initiation and training, and being persecuted for her religious beliefs and practices.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 36 I’m here with Tracy at least and we’re going to be talking all about the Phoenix goddess Temple and the first off I just want to say that this case is near and dear to my heart and since I heard about it a few years ago I felt it it definitely was going to be sort of like a Roe v Wade for sacred sexuality and it’s something that I believe everyone who is involved in the sacred sexuality movement shouldn’t have a good clear understanding of The Facts of the case from Tracy here and his interview and also say that if you listen to any of my previous podcast and you know anything about my personal life story it’ll it’ll make a lot of sense why I care so much and I’ll just put it out there that I feel that we are on the cusp of a paradigm shift for we understand that the natural Spiritual Authority of the Priestess class that should be honored and revered no matter what religious background you have most importantly because of the fact that we’re in a world filled with rapists and child sexual abusers who would do much better to have access sexual access to Healing goddesses and gods who are going to create a line of defense now so that the energy that’s stirring inside of them but doesn’t have a healthy and safe expression with other consenting people they can go and receive a trance station of the energy into something positive in purified and prevent the the heinous crimes that I was victimized by as a young child and it’s a young teenager and also free anchor into the Hearts face of praying for the victims of Elliot Rodgers and think about how the family members of the slain in the massacre that was the result of extreme sexual frustration if we could possibly imagine what the world would look like if men suffering from that anxiety had a healthy sexual initiation through these traditions of sacred feminine Sexual Healing practices and sexual initiation practices what the world would look like if there could be so much less sexual violence and so much more sexual healing and I think that we are going to learn a lot today and we’re going to start to figure out how we can support the efforts of these Frontline Warrior goddesses of peace and light and healing in love that we all desperately yearned for so with that said Tracy thank you so much for opening up your temple space for me in this moment and I’ll say now please bless us with all of your might and magic and mystery finishing up feeling a little altar here at fiery altar on this December 22nd and I have my Yoni symbol my beautiful pink conch shell and then I have the fireball then a mosaic that’s kind of like a stained glass and that reminds me of church and I grew up as in a church so I like I like the feeling that when you go into a Cathedral at Temple Church at a mosque I like how it feels when you go into that set aside Sacred Space so I wanted to bless the moment if I could that way anyway yeah so how about the history of the brief history of the Phoenix goddess Temple so that we know what we’re talking about and what is now being investigated I have been doing group practice since 2002 and I never set out to be a center holder for group practice it was something that I deliberately set out to do but what was happening is I was working in a certain way and people were responding to how I was working really it was the attitude with which I was working and so I had Seekers and that’s a that’s I’m for a very long time I’ve used a certain kind of language early on the state of Washington called me up and said you know we we have a complaint it on your website and it was a website I wasn’t even using called true Spectrum Tantra North a picture of a massage table and it said Relax on a massage style table and even say massage table is a massage – stufful table and they’re like you know that’s a reference to massage you can’t do that and so they wanted to visit the premises make sure we weren’t doing illegal massage it was in 2003 at the light Body Temple and in that I wrote her a response to the government to the state of Washington to Health Board and they accepted my explanation of what I was doing and they said we want you to know we keep funds to do will keep the file open and you’ll probably she’ll probably be visited by some undercover inspectors just a follow-up to make sure that you’re not doing that and you know we never really were but it made it very important at that point but I had to draw a line in the sand very early I’m not doing anything with massage it really isn’t massage we’ve always been calling at the altar Altar and the alt AR is consecrated that is dedicated with spiritual and and that upon this altar u a l t e r u alter towards the Divine and so we we don’t have massage tables we have altars and and then because I’m really into the quantum physics aspect of it they human-like body then I lights we always like the under part as well and with little white twinkle lights and it’s to represent that we are made up of particles flight and to not forget that so anyway so yeah I’ve been rocking with the government for a while and always successfully that’s why this was really shocking when it happened and yeah so it for a long time I’ve been doing group practice because I wanted to I I didn’t know that what I was doing with sacred when I began but I had a very Mystic beginning a Mystic initiation into Central Bodywork it was much more than that so the person that I was initiated by into this sensual touch work I think we called it central Bodywork is what it was called but this person was actually a magical intersexed person they were born both I think that that he she actually use the term hermaphrodite and this was astonishing for me I really felt like I had fallen down the rabbit hole but I was very happy to be there if it was like a whole nother world and I was Bible refer to him as he because he was literally living as a man at the time this initiation into this touch and what happens and how much people need it and his thing was he said you know if you give people the touch and a good a good massage a good a good all over touch then they’ll always come back and people don’t they don’t really when it comes to sex see no shopping around for sex with her that’s variety people never go back whatever but you said this is different you want to be a Healer like I don’t think he used the word healer but he talked a lot about the importance of touch and then if you gave good touch gave a good massage that was his word that he was trained in massage in a lot of people who work in a sensual field are in fact trained in the Sun and they could never let the Two Worlds touch because the protocols and ethics of massage don’t allow you to touch the whole body so RBI came from that background that touch I was never trained in massage but I I found that I had a knack for it I would gift for it I think a lot of people might find it given the right circumstances or writing for a judgment a little bit of demonstration a lot of people might find that they are healers that they have the hands of healer I found with very little effort that I was good at it and I’ve I’ve met other people who is soon as they got in chamber they were just naturally good at it so that’s a real thing and that’s me that’s body wisdom and there’s also the whole aspect of past lives and is something did you have a temple life and is now you’re remembering it in your body’s remembering it at the cellular level and you know how to do things that your mind doesn’t know how to do to me that’s real Mitten might not be to everybody but to me it’s real I’ve had some serious past life experiences that were extremely Vivid Ananda they weren’t anything else they weren’t dreams they weren’t wasn’t my imagination and it was like chilling so you know chillingly real how so the temple then evolved out of your practice of groups and people wanted to do there was a a percentage of people who really liked the idea of doing the work in a sacred Manner and people say what do you mean sacred and I say well yes I can’t really talk to you about sacred sexuality without some sort of definition for the sacred and for me that the practicing the operating definition of the temple is if you’re willing to be grateful if you are grateful for the gift of life that means that you’re operating in a sacred way if you are ignoring or even cursing the gift if you see this as a weigh station to a better before you get to a better place to me that’s not sacred and that’s kind of pagan it’s kind of Native American it’s an earth-based view that our sacred is everything around us if the the mall the matter the material is all sacred and but there is a thing about setting aside a Sacred Space and anyone who’s ever held space as its Center holder for a church Center holder for a temple even a sitter holder for a business or anything like that anytime group you know there’s a you know there’s a bubble in which the group conducted specialized activity and the energies are concentrated within that bubble they’re not diffuse they’re not out of the world you’re you’re concentrating those energy than that’s what the temples has it concentrates the energy so we were we were you know as far as the case goes I see how would I put this in a short Manor I moved to Arizona I did ceremony December 21st of 07 up at Sedona Temple and I was there with tomorrow brussaux and we were committed the two of us to founding a Sisterhood sacred sexual nunnery if you will send you know seen the movie A League of Their Own and there was this beautiful camaraderie of these women who had played baseball when it was really no one you know it was a guy’s game and what are you doing with these skirts out there on the field and really doing the sacred sexuality work is kind of like that you know you’re you’re sort of people think it’s a novelty you’re bucking a trend Yuri misunderstood and I just thought this would be great for us to have this this Sisterhood that appreciates and passes on knowledge and and we kind of have each other’s back so that was that kind of the through line for me is the Mystic sisters and I began to call us the Mystic sisters in the fall of 2002 and I swear that it was a church with spiritual healers and Earth stewards they offered me a charter into July of 2002 and So within a year of doing central Bodywork I had moved into realizing that for me and for a few other people that this work was sacred they felt they were really having like I don’t know like a church like experience but you know spiritual transformation shifting at the soul level shifting at the cellular level people were I was getting the feedback that we were changing lives even with simple body work because one of the things is if you’re doing the sacred sexual and you’re in that place of gratitude for the gift of life and and you are a holding space for whatever your version of sacred is people when they when they touch that they they come into your chamber your healing room and a lot of times they’ll just collapse into the wonderful Vibes of The Killers space and I want to divert a little bit here. Go off because it was about 2,000 and Hotsy was when I went to Florida I don’t know what’s a while ago very early two thousands I happened to hear in the middle of the night this woman talking and I wish I could credit her and I cannot but I heard on the radio this woman was talking about how the healers chamber the room must have the elements in it and that if your room has fire actual fire and you have water like a beautiful sacred bowl of water or poor or perhaps also a fountain we’ve got running water but properly placed of course and then you got heavier than Ware pots and maybe some huge Stones the biggest ones you can carry in big huge rocks in the north of your chamber or maybe you maybe you put them somewhere else and then having the air the fan so that there’s always this movement of air and she said you know when you put the four elements in a chamber and you have actual like a real tree a living tree and the end the leaves are rustling in the breeze of the fan there’s that there’s a an instantaneous healing that happens at the particle level that the each element breaks down two different sorts of molecules and particles and that that is so when it’s when a Healer sets at their chamber correctly a huge healing happens with the person just being in the room and it ends so that that struck me cuz I was already working with the four directions and the elements and so that just made sense and so I began to always do that with the chamber’s infect with the Earth portion of it we would buy two of every plant and two of every little tree and we would rotate them into the outer areas like the classrooms the hallway the foyer and switch the plants out so that we can have living trees a lot of work to do it that way and sopa and that’s where people have to slow down and end in really you don’t do your practice all the way 10 to those 10 to those living plans as part of your altar Pioneer sacred work anyway that’s going off on the healers listening so I wanted to share that it wasn’t my idea but I found that it’s very true if you go out of your way to have the elements in your chamber and properly Place everything so pretty like going back to the first thing I ever did was Brock with the government on massage at massage without a license and I’m sure we weren’t saying that in our phone script or anything I’m sure we called it sensual touch it even sensual Bodywork had like a different connotation so if I’m not mistaken it was right around the spring of 2003 that that I began to use the phrase whole body healing and it’s interesting because the word heel h e a l means in the Latin to make whole whole and to be whole whole is have your compartmentalize pieces brought back into one into a homeless and then when you are whole that’s also the same root word as holy holy so to heal is to behold behold is to be made holy and you become one with everything so I got really clear that I wasn’t doing massage I got really clear at the time I wrote a very specific letter about chakra balancing I mentioned a Bianca as a self-care Ritual from Arya Veda and that we were using a similar long Slidin Strokes on the limbs towards the heart and swirling on the limb give me the joints with with other body Benz you juice wrld it basic Avianca self-care ritual of anointing the body yourself but in the case of visiting the light Body Temple we were doing the ritual for you giving people different oils that they could choose from and and then I also was of course bringing up the holy anointing tradition in the Bible and Mary Magdalene as the anointing of Jesus I mean she was not Not only was she not a prostitute and I wanted to kick it in here that it wasn’t till 1969 at the Vatican admitted that my meds when was not a prostitute and they have yet to really acknowledge that Not only was she not a prostitute she was a priestess and the word Magdalene as she was Mary of magdala magdala which is the triple towered Temple of the Goddess there’s been a recent a very thorough translation of it and there’s no question that Mary Magdalene was a priestess of the Goddess temple in magdala that she was a holy anointer and I brought that up with the state of Washington and you know they accepted all of that and I have that letter and and they did probably come and do some undercover work and visit us and an however we were you know we were let go we I think no one ever visited my places that didn’t think I was sincere and because I am sincere and and there’s always people around me who feel that way to really when we want change part of it is is giving each other that witness to say I like this thing over here better let’s let’s focus on it let’s give it some energy this is better than what we’re doing and you need to do that together so that’s something that the temple did is it created vortexes of divine witness where people would get cool ideas somebody else would witness it back there might be a way to implement it because you are a community and so it’s a really it’s like a living organism that that was happening with the temples At The Florist beautiful so this idea of the witnessing I feel like a lot of fish Shadow behaviors in romantic and various kinds of interpersonal relationships that are not observed by at least another one other person if not a community of people it’s a lot of these really abusive Tendencies are allowed to fester in total secrecy and privacy so Fellowship around intimacy that structured and disciplined and in sacred and with the the higher vibrational procedures in place so that you’re not devolving into debauchery that’s a with excessive drugs or alcohol in a lot of people are just taking it you know if you make Eros into a sloppy kind of parties or if you look at some of the ancient temples there was always an aspect that was there were Spirits there were Vapors there were things that you would take and there were and pleasure was definitely part of it you know one of the things that was a real eye-opener for me was when some people in Seattle they have a I don’t know if they’re doing it now it really going to come put a damper on it when we when this happened in Phoenix but they call themselves sensual Seattle and they were teaching a certain type of sacred sexuality it involved what always washing the feet in the ancient tradition that did a lot of really cool stuff but they point out Bruce isella born of of that group he said you know because if you see if you look at sacred sexuality what they all have in common these ancient lineage has around sacred sex is that they all have to do with living forever they all have to do with connecting the orgasm to immortality and what Bruce what’s Ella born said he’s like you no pleasure is a respectable part of what we’re doing you don’t want it who would want to live forever if you’re not there’s no pleasure and we sort of we’re going to wear down on Pleasure we we we get down on it even in the touch committee were like we’re afraid of being hedonistic into carnal to Primal but really honestly we’re all living in our head I mean maybe not in the country Community but out in the world people are living in the upper chakras and they could use some more Primal touch body yeah maybe Primal nature taking over these are places temples many more like them to come in my in my future vision and I hope hopes and dreams so that we are helping each other navigate these white waters you know that the quick update would be we’ve always had the potential to use religion as a defense the state did not want that to happen I think when they raided the temples they got a hold of our paperwork our computers are videos or pictures they saw our altars whatever I think there wasn’t there had to be there at some level like holy crap we really did write a church here but but at some level they’re like it doesn’t matter we think they’re breaking the law so you know you fast forward to four and a half years later and sincerity is is always the defense like you can use religion as a defense if you’re sincere and where we’re at in December 2015 after waiting for your little over four years for this thing to go to is it all of the Witnesses are saying this was my religion this was my church it was my school I was there to give my gift as a Healer or I was there to be healed or both the states as recently as this week and I think we have all this you know we’re going to start uploading all of the trial video able to buy it for $30 a day we can walk out with the trial video so we purchase the first four weeks and we are in the process of uploading that and we had we already have it up except for that and it is actually but you have to we found out we have to hide all the phases of the undercover detective like I’m responsible for that for hiding them so this is a call to action for financial support his ninja as a community is a huge defense it’s a real defense and then what happens is they have to prove or harm which which is my really circuitous way of getting back around to shame doing things in secrecy what part does Temple play in helping people get over this sort of shadowy aspect of intimate relations where let’s say you’re monogamous but you your partner’s no longer having sex with you and you’re never going to break that Bond but you don’t so don’t want to go to your grave never having sex again we’re just never being touched there or whatever that is that you’re not willing to to keep going and then you, you find someone in the Temple and so this is it’s interesting because of the sincerity thing now is back on the table religious defense is back on the table as of this last week and what it means that they have to prove harm in the hot day in Arizona there’s something a ruling that had to do with criminal accusations and being defended by a Church there was a gentleman by the name of Hardesty who went all the way to the Arizona supreme court defending marijuana as his religious Sacrament and because he was in his car there were like we’re going to we agree with you that this can be a religious Sacrament but we’re not going to let you have it in your car because he was saying I can have it anywhere anytime at all time and if it and they’re like because of the way the laws are at present we have to treat this the same as alcohol therefore you can’t have it in your car even under religious protection and then when did that when they did this Hardesty ruling they also and I’m going to have to paraphrase this but put it into writing that in the state of Arizona if I government doesn’t like what a church is doing and there’s and there’s no clear law no precedent around that particular religious group than the state has the burden to harms before it takes actions against the church WIll what they’re looking at with the temple is a lot of goodness every single person has testified about couples work working with women yes we admit that yes it was mostly male Seekers sing mostly female practitioners but we were always available for couples work always available for women’s work and I did do those thing and workshops and classes and coursework so the jury is getting to see all of that overall it’s been fun in Arizona it’s quite interesting that they get to ask question understanding that looks like a real Church why did you do this so going back around to what this Hardesty ruling is it means that the state has to prove a harm if they want to prosecute the church and end really so right after social work and is sort of feeding back into that sector the wisdom of of the Amazon and and Beyond and so is that something that you have I thought I remember reading somewhere you know we’re talking to you at some point about how this is this is like you could be hired by the more formal above ground and sectors of social work or Community work with where you can be brought in to bring some of the stuff that would normally be or I guess it’s just it’s a very interesting Cutting Edge of an intersection and I if I’m not mistaken that’s that you you are like sort of partially in that world 2 of of social work or is that something I understand correctly or social worker social worker y’all are layout string this conversation back and see where where I where I am placed social work as well as all the modalities of counseling and healing you know like they are all part and parcel to supporting and upholding status quo capitalist system so I’m going to like you know like you know also having been in the punk scene also had a big impact on my my party now thought you know in terms of healing these wounds we have to look at that you know we can’t we can’t say like that are healing is going to be independent of a world that is reeling and suffering from the continuation of this system as it is and so that’s where I for me like bringing capitalism into the equation is is something that’s real tricky it’s something that I feel needs to be kind of understood that you know we we can’t just rely on having sting services that we can pay for because that creates a gap you know where some people are going to have accessible abilities to to the healing and others won’t and that’s that’s not healthy for anyone and and also that it doesn’t address the root cause of why we need social workers to begin with and why we need counseling and all of that so I really like the notion of cultural healing that’s where more where I would be comfortable in any way kind of looking at myself as any kind of healer I don’t think we we can really heal individuals that’s really something that you know a person will need to and it’s not like they can be facilitated to do their own healing work but nobody can fix us we have to fix ourselves that’s that’s more I think a more powerful Paradigm to be apart of but you know I I I have worked in the realm I focused therapy and you know I have spent quite a bit of time around the spirit plant medicines and seeing how the plant medicines have assisted and I do I do continue continuously work to increase my knowledge and wisdom around working with us plants and and that also brings us back into that hole realm of discussion around you know ancestors and working with them or perhaps that’s something we haven’t really touched upon but maybe she said it’s just that in any form of healing that we do I guess for me the important thing that I really try to bring into whatever I do connecting back with her ancestors and healing the trauma of how we were disconnected from those ancestors and how that plays out in any kind of sexual wounds or emotional wounds that we carry and so that’s something that I I I feel like the role of initiation and ritual can can really do and that’s that’s been its Province ever since people began doing patrols I think it’s to build upon the legacy of their ancestors and to draw and their their help and support cool said that yeah thank you for helping me understand the other parameters a little better and and 100% there with you I have I have been because I live in the United States where there’s different laws around no prostitution in in how that affects the healing with sexual touch and pleasure as medicine and stuff like that is a lot more yes I understand in in Canada there’s there’s a lot more interesting legal space in order to do Hands-On Sexual Healing work relative to the US where it’s completely off limits in so I because of that adapting to that reality and also is a permaculture designer myself I have to think very deeply about how to navigate this issue of for-profit healing work that kind of in most sectors is about like you said I’ll put in my own words it’s like they want to know if if the if you’re at a time of time robot that supposed to be producing a set amount to be a productive member of the of the GDP then then if you’re not functioning properly than the the goal of the mainstream social work or psychotherapeutic or psychiatric Fields they’re trying to get you back into the rat race as soon as possible and they’ll do that with drugs with talk therapy or whatever that is about avoiding through tissue which is the disconnection from urethane from a healthy holistic wild habitat you know a night as a primitivist I see that you know the solution to your Neurosis is to retry belies and Get Growing your own food again in and rebuild that fabric so you know there with you on that tension about right livelihood in and taking money for healing and what is he doing so I really like what you said and that just is going to it’s going to help me a lot looking at healing the cultural level and healing the if I’m understanding right and I’ll put a couple my own words on it but I feel like we’re trying to build the scaffolding or were trying to design the context for people to take the responsibility of a personal healing and gone to that journey and so if you if what would you say are some practical skills are tools from all of your things that you would teaching and training and a things that you discovered in your own journey to where you’re in power tools for empowerment that you suggest or are resources that you suggest people Explorer to if they’re called to do the cultural healing work weather for profit or non-profit. Some dance between the two or it and then what what are some recommendations for people who are on their own path and aren’t necessarily called to do the the cultural healing yeah I mean it’s it’s a pretty vast subject that one but I think that a few points that I could think about and talk about our that I’m going to this idea of bringing you back in the station rights and recognizing that in the absence of them what do we have you know we are we are sadly in there without initiated Elders so many of us and if there are any of Elders that hold that ability to to guide those those ones are those are worth their weight in gold you know there really is people that we should try to lift up and and give them their recognition and see you know and then in the absence of that it’s like we kind of by default Our Generations people that will have to hopefully fulfill that and reach a place where we can actually help upcoming generations to go in a way that they don’t have to completely go it alone and and figure it out on them on their own the way that so many of us have had to and so there is a movement around Rites of Passage I sit on the board if you passageways which is a network that focus is squarely on you no Rites of Passage for you coming of age from all different walks and and and modalities you know some of them are our Boys to Men oriented some of them are girls to women some of them are starting to incorporate non gender binary kind of approaches as well which is good and and this whole focus on bringing back the ancestors into looking at Rites of Passage is is starting to happen and something that I focused on and so that’s that’s a resource you know people can go to youth passageways. Oregon and look at what programs are out there and they can also think about how they can add to that list and bring in things that are needed around especially around sexuality and relationship which is often I noticed kind of a big gap in a lot of programs out there you know because they’re confined confined or constrained by the conservative values where they take place and you know what school system is you know this is one of those places lagging for that kind of thing so it’s a role that I think that many people who understand the need can step into and cultivate as career paths you know and some people are pig figuring out how they can weave their credentials says on Sexual Health Educators or sexual therapist or sexual trauma or no trauma-based therapists you know into this realm of initiation and that’s that needs to happen on a on an increased level the other I see a lot of because of what I was saying around looks really don’t how many Avenues to learn other than through you know what the books in the workshops and offerings around sexuality thoughts unfortunately are not rooted in in people’s only need two lineages generally speaking you know so the whole Tantra movement is pretty much so you know a cultural appropriator of New Age fight version of those Traditions that would have been squashed by Christianity especially and so I think there’s work to be done there and as much as possible Retreat retrieving reconstructing are reconnecting with our own ancestral Traditions which I’m sure you know had their own knowledge wisdom around how to how to raise healthy harmonious individuals with healthy sexualities from from the vantage point of how what little I do know has been has been done in indigenous cultures and without wanting to appropriate for them from them I’ll just give way of examples out of that you know in and certain cultures that are studied like the Mayan culture and I think to some degree on certain places within Creek culture there’s examples of how as societies you know that the children are raised from an early age 2 reach a point where they understand how to how to harmonize with the other sex and how to to look after each other and that’s just a very basic principle that I feel like you know that’s that’s worth kind of learning how to integrate into our family structures if we have children that were raising just to keep in mind that you know there is a need for them to learn skills around things like consent and around being responsible with with one’s sexual energies and and I needs to start before they reach that age of adolescence where they’re just harder to connect with if you haven’t built up that Foundation so that’s something that I think about will do you so if I if if we check out that the organization that you mention is it would that be good place to find and something like a more enlightened or more conscious like sexual education curriculum or guidebook do you know if people were working on something like that so if I know if you know parents who were going through the puberty of their child that they have something that’s not just this cold clinical Western and even though that sort of evolving a little bit you know with things like a sack didn’t and whatnot I see a lot but the The ancestral wisdom and you know the ceremonial Rites of Passage you know how does it how does the Modern Family say okay well you’re about to start feeling you know hormonal Energy’s how do we give you know create even if it’s just within their family or their Community yoga or whatever is something more than what’s being offered in the normal sex ed or what they’re listening in gangster rap music and watching on sitcoms obviously you know it’s enough for lack of lot of alternative options it’s one one place to look and we’re always looking for others so whenever we discover something then we will see to auditory resources and we are trying to vet those resources and those organizations to make sure that they really are you know at least there’s some some level of you know safe recommendation that we can give for those those organizations we’re not we’re not in the position to really kind of completely you know set standards but we are trying to we have a code of what we call it a cross-cultural protocol so we do look at that aspect that you have for what we’re talking about that’s you know if that’s another layer that we will hopefully get to eventually and I do know that there are people within our Network who are really strongly focused on this particularly around girls to women kind of education and and Rites of Passage and some of the Boys to Men once but I think it’s also something we need to to enhance as well oh that’s great yeah that’s that’s that’s what I wanted to hear so that I can just refer people to this ongoing and so and then the LSI is kind of its there’s a Facebook I’ve been interacting with the the Facebook group for a while so is that something you recommend people plug-in I mean that’s the goal of that is to feature blogs and generate discussions from those blogs and also to establish a resource of services as well as information and so that’s you know running on in a very limited volunteer capacity and so you know it’s something that I hope will eventually become a very powerful resource but already it’s you know it’s been feedback that I’ve received that you know even just the the group that we have on Facebook somebody posted recently. You know it’s really help them in their in their path which is nice to hear and I’ve heard that a few times and I try to curate that group in such a way where it’s like you know it’s trying to generate discussion and it’s it’s trying to be a safe space where where people can get into some of those I’m intimate revealing is of what what’s going on in their lives one of the things that kind of came out of love sex intelligence local as a connection with Tamara and the love school that they have which is a very congruence philosophy to love sex intelligence and they’re their work to try to create or with to create safe spaces for people to to share stories of what’s going on in their intimate lover sexual lives and and B witnessed in a way that is non-judgemental where they’re not being flooded with advice but more just being witnessed which is kind of connected to that whole framework for Rites of Passage itm witnessing each other and so it’s it’s trying to also look at how you know communities can succeed in their in their goals which might include you know like being more sustainable or being an alternative to the systems around us and also being a part of a more peaceful kind of culture through filling this hole that is often where things go wrong where people are are are not feeling safe to talk about these these human experiences around wounding around are our hearts and our sexuality so I’ve been part of a Practice Group here that has been circulating also to other parts of BC and I think it’s a really it’s a really powerful movement to be a part of yeah we’re getting close to an hour or so I have to take a few more minutes and I’m get a couple thoughts and feelings some responsible for 1 something that his is coming up for me that I think it’s really empowering is this like idea that wouldn’t it be nice if some of us started to think of ourselves as aspiring Elders I’ve never thought of it that way until this conversation and there’s a little spark of joy and me that that says you know puts in context the the punk rock lifestyle that I had of live fast Die Young and just you know if it’s not throwing yourself into the meat grinder of insurrectionary activism you know with this sort of Death Wish you know this martyr complex or whatever it’s like those are really unsustainable archetypes to follow and they leave a lot of people when they get to my age in about 35 like in a sort of existential crisis that will the revolution didn’t happen and I didn’t get killed I didn’t die in the gutter you know I mean what am I going to do now and it’s like well maybe it’s time to become an aspiring Elder and you know clean up your act and and then start to think about how you’re going to make it easier cuz I there’s a lot of things that I had to go through that I would seriously love to have no one else ever have to go through and if you know if we can live in that. you know that is what you’re supposed to think that I think of you say you know you can you can learn from the wisdom of Elders who have gone through and made the mistakes that you’re probably going to go through or you can just be hard-headed and learn all your lessons the hard way but I mean we’ve had to learn a lot of hard lessons in the absence of the eldership but I think if we take on that there’s a yeah me too. It seems obvious but really the way you put it his medicine for me to think you know it’s a dignified path to be an aspiring Elder and then it makes you not be so how do I can help you defeat that that that grinding pressure that oh my I’m going to lose my looks and I’m going to lose my energy and I’m going to be in the state of deprecation towards death and that’s very much the greatest fear of the western manicured Uno photoshopped airbrushed identity like you’re not really giving any hope that aging will be of any benefit in here just marginalized further and further so I thank you for that serve very much still give that time sacred eldership dignity not a light title to hold I think the true Elder wouldn’t really feel comfortable in it cuz it’s defining attributes of an elder that is really one that can help that role be the best it can be is one that is is really accountable is really present isn’t so on the move that if you can’t you know be relied upon to be there for the people that it serves now needs to ideally be in the in the fellowship of other Elders to kind of keep it in in in check in a way like we have to watch for the Cole group kind of phenomenon where people you know place a lot of weight on that person and in a way that can privilege them in certain ways and also lead to potential like power distortions and things like that you know it’s it’s only human that people will make mistakes and so having that kind of accountability of other people and also that time yeah you have people heart or a different there’s always like in every phase of life with the lifecycle there’s there’s like the maturing phases and so there’s like you know there’s a baby elder there’s enough adult Elder and then Senior Elder and so it’s just we have to learn at each stage of Life how to become the mature version of what that stage is and says just something to think about as well and it’s good to to get your feet wet early on in life so that you know we can have deep roots and and the and those are the kinds of people to like in the Tamara situation out of the black community they have a circle of Elders who are basically people who have grown with a community enough that they know the people in their community and then they serve a role as potential kind of like the Matchmaker but you know in a way where people can approach them in and ask them like you know I’m interested in this person and they can help you assess whether this is the right time or what is a good or bad idea and you know they can kind of that. Whole courtship in a way that you know really I think I wish there were more of those people around here don’t you let me relax you know learn the hard way what does that we’re just not compatible certain people in The Matrix the I mean yeah I’m not I’m not a political scientist of the Matrix but I will say that what got me peaked on the ecstatic trance dance group ritual ceremony festival thing was it really when I saw I think it was maybe the second movie or maybe it was the second or the third but there was a scene where they’re just getting down to like Juno Reactor I think was a soundtrack of a butt there is something beautiful about seeing the different the warrior culture Guided by elders and of course there’s different the archetypes playing out in Conflict split that to me was took it further than then the Star Trek Federation is a futuristic Elder guided Council guided kind of reality so that was kind of fun but yeah so that’s what came to mind when you’re at we’re talking about that be so cool if you’re early sexual oracle’s who you go to you know if we’re going to give you insights and maybe even have name your child for you or something cool like that you know be so cool but right on then will I worry about at the hours so do you have any closing touch you want to share or any other resources or should we just I’ll post the the links that you mention and I’ll definitely encourage people to stay informed and keep an eye out for your anything coming up you have any appearances or anything exciting like that coming up you want to mention I think yeah I think I covered a lot of it and I just wanted to maybe plant a seed while I have the airwaves here about something that I’d I’d eventually like to work on presenting which is around insert Intercultural relationships and also decolonizing our relationships as well and just thinking about how how we can heal some of these ancestral traumas and use that has as as a means to strengthen our relationships and also our society right on I’ll be looking forward to everything that you’re you’re expressing in the world and I hopefully yeah maybe sometime in the future we can talk about skill sets for Beyond Christian monogamy that would be a great topic so yeah how would you feel about that maybe we can sometime in the next few months follow up with something like that. Maybe by the by the time I’ll have more of a personal lived experience to a base conversation around that I think you know in terms of people who are already I don’t know how many listeners here are on a Christian spiritual path without that many but if the energy and gnosticism and sacred marriage not going to the alchemical top in the in the Gnostic tradition but I I wouldn’t make any claims to be an expert in that area but it’s definitely something to look at cool alright then we will be in touch and will follow up sometime in the future and thank you so much so be I really enjoyed it and I know it’s taking us a while to get this to get this done but I think it was perfect and I couldn’t ask for anything more so you have a wonderful day. Take care and keep for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Contra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Awaken the Kali Within Workshop

Awaken the Kali Within

KALI- The Goddess of self Empowerment, of time, change, death/rebirth, fierce rage, annihilator of evil forces, the redeemer of the universe as well as the benevolent mother goddess……

Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing.”
― Arundhati Roy, War Talk

The time to come into your authentic power as an individual with personal dreams and goals as well as your vision to change the world and live your deepest soul purpose to serve the universe, is not somewhere in the future, it is in the here and NOW.

YES, IT IS TIME TO AWAKEN THE KALI WITHIN

It is time:

– to not just worship the idol, but become HER

– to stop complaining about whats going on in the world; to stop walking around the earth feeling so little, so limited, so disempowered and helpless when we have this dormant forces of raw limitless inner power in the form of Kali residing within each of us

– to stand up for your own being, for your own body, mind and soul that are being polluted, manipulated, abused and devoured by corrupt agencies of power as well as meeting the inner shadow

– to tap into that rage, that has been repressed into our unconscious, because that rage is going to be the key/the doorway to your Divine Infinite untamed inner power and wisdom!

-to stand up and scream and use the power of our voices to prevent our Mother earth from being further abused and polluted

Imagine every so-called ‘ordinary’ person walking the face of the earth becoming a true embodiment of KALI,

Can a handful of corrupt people continue to dominate these empowered embodiments of THE FIERCE GODDESS WITHIN?

WE WILL BE INVOKING THE GODDESS KALI AND LEARNING ABOUT HER THROUGH

RITUAL DANCE/MOVEMENT
STORIES
ART
POETRY
VOICE/ SACRED CHANTS
AND MEDITATION/YOGIC BREATHWORK PRACTICES

TO BECOME HER, EMBODY HER!!!