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Lose Your False Mind, Find Your True Self & Learn to Feel Good Inside with Craig Lewis TPP214

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In this episode I’m joined again by long time friend and brother from the heart of the d-i-y punk scene Craig Lewis for a update on his adventures in travel, personal growth, recovery, mental health justice, spirituality, sexuality, and much more.

There are many profound spiritual truths and gems of sacred wisdom shared. I’m always deeply reaffirmed that our shared deep roots in the ethics and spirit of resistance from the punk rock movement have kept us motivated to fight the good fight and love the good love.  It’s invigorating to catch up with Craig and compare notes as we push ourselves ever forward towards our own evolving definitions of what it means to be spiritual warriors.

About Craig:

Craig Lewis is a rebel and he chooses to live his life built on a foundation of gratitude, peace, love, kindness, spirituality, accountability, honor, forgiveness and acceptance. He is currently living in a mountain in Mexico, seeking truth, healing and connection. Without question, Craig continues to rise ever higher on his mission to be the living proof to all, that surviving the impossible, is entirely possible.

Craig recently published his book ‘Better Days’ in Finnish, Dutch, Spanish, Tagalog and Thai, with several new translations on the way including Kiswahili and Italian.  Find out about his many books, posters and more here: Sanityisafulltimejob.org (under construction) and also via email.

Craig actively trains mental health workers, educators, people in recovery (and all interested people) throughout the world and is excited about benefiting your organizations and the lives of all via his experience, wisdom and fearlessness. 

Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@punx.in.recovery
Whatsapp: 528332944654
Punx.in.recovery@gmail.com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello David Lebovitz welcome to Township on podcast episode number 214 will be getting some major updates from our international Man of Mystery been on the show a few times before Craig Lewis you said old friends are going back many years in the anarcho-punks seen in the more radical conscious seen and he is standing in the world of pure support and mental health and really growing and transcending beyond the the system’s way of administering public policy around mental health and really taking the power back and using a DIY Spirit to do so and last time or what we’ve been since we’ve talked last I know a lot of Adventures have unfolded and and a lot of Mystique and a lot of intrigue so with all that said Craig take it away. What’s been going on with new oh my god brother it’s been I think the last time we spoke was in February to do to do a proper the discussion like this was in February of last year so it’s like I don’t know if 15 months are 16 months ago if I’m not mistaken yeah so yeah man yeah it’s been one heck of a crazy wild ride and I now live in a mountain I am in the south of Mexico and I am in a place it’s a bit hard to get you unless you have any intention to go there you make a plan and I have an apartment I got a place to live that’s affordable and I have a terrorist live off the plants and the mountains all around and hunting birds and cats that visit and live with me I don’t think the language and I’m learning and I’m just for the first time for lots of reasons this finding some sort of I don’t know how to describe it some sort of acceptance of the rationality of everything and finally some sodas thanks and all of it to be able to be in the moment and take that and transform into whatever this I dream about and end desire in a nutshell that’s where I’m at this is awesome and you sound better than ever and I know you’ve been through so much some intense inner struggles and external struggles and now to be at that place of peace and sounds like relative kind of resolution to to be posted up somewhere and then I actually have this is something I’m really fascinated in which is the economics of being a traveler in the in the modern age in the sort of how you can are you figuring out ways to economize with your resources and find ways to make your money last longer by being posting up on your travels places where you can just kind of make it stretch and last longer when can you get into some of the economics of that of that way of life cuz it’s very fascinating to me I’d love to do more traveling myself oh yeah I will check this out, man it’s a freaking disaster III what economics are we speaking of like it’s funny I landed here with a backpack okay I I had a little bit of money to just place to get a house and I’ve been like it’s been a very challenging experience to find some sort of sense of any sort of like this world episodes like some sort of solid foundation on a music and this whole crazy like a year-and-a-half will plus I like all over the world husband Ace Financial how do I describe it I don’t have like a mighty long time ago this is been like I don’t want to I do want to break up Bon Jovi cuz this is been like what we would that when they would sing in 1986 this is what they called living on his neck no other way to describe it because that’s exactly what I know to be true but so this is all crazy like how do you live how do you survive how do they make this happen I don’t think I had a choice and I think the only way I was going to heal and I get to the next place in my life to get to the next place to get to the next place what’s the not know what the heck I was doing and just trust that I did letting you know you know me I give like the roundabout Circle answer that’s like the opposite of the answer you’re seeking or the or the S you would expect or anticipate the question but that’s what you get for me so that’s my answer brother what actually did I half expected something like that where it was more I can see the strategy and being uncertainty Jake and the spontaneity of going where the wind blows you know and in following just moment-to-moment that’s that’s the dream I mean that’s the most Freedom you could ever have is to not be bound to even your own plans of your own expectations of anything in and just really trust a if I’m blessed then I’ll get fed and in Shelter tonight and if I’m not then I’ll have to wonder why with the empty stomach on the cold side park somewhere a man and I don’t like that empty stomach and I also want to just briefly go back a second before I go forward the moment I said that the answer that you were expecting I knew that was the incorrect thing to say and I immediately followed by saying the opposite because I knew that you’re not expecting that it’s like this like comfortable thing that we do when we’re communicating we make use of something that we put into the conversation but actually that’s bullshit you are understanding me more than most people would so thank you yeah crazy life man this whole reality is just you can live and people will see your heart and don’t understand that the language or how you look or you come from or any of these things they don’t matter what matters is that you can communicate from what is truly what they knew in your heart that they will see that and they will accept that and that’ll bring you the protection on the help and the loves and that everything that you need for real I love a man yeah that does that leaves Faith conduct actually reminds me something funny why I say this with all due respect cuz this fellow is one of my dear friends and we’ve sent drifted apart but but we used to be tight Bros and it was funny in a way because he came from a way more stable family and had he works really hard to be an overachiever and I watched him work harder than anybody so I don’t say that he was like a born with a silver spoon in his mouth or whatever he wasn’t he was privileged but he also was pushed to to Really develop himself but she did all the extracurricular activities and did the honours and did all this crazy prep work and and and built himself up so that he could be ivy league material to go to college and then he’d end up finding a program at a state college or State University that that he was happy with and we know I’m happy with location happy with the programming cetera and I me I dropped out literally in sixth grade was in and out of rehab and got maybe another couple of former formal semesters of high school and then dropped out again after that and then I a couple years later I got a GED and then we both end up starting at the same State University together at the same the same time and I had that been the complete antithesis of the discipline and academic rigor that he put in and we both started the same place even though we had to come about it until we different ways but I also was getting straight A’s and was dedicated so I think this is just you know that all that is to say there’s people who are rich and unhappy and don’t know what to do themselves and they’re throwing all kinds of money away and all kinds of drugs and experiences and you’re going at this is international expiration with you’re surrendering to a to the Divine forces that are guiding your your your destiny and that and I’m always impressed I’m always jealous Pac-Man you ear like living it up with the fuck all you got to do and I’m going out there listening who wants to know how to how to do it on doing are you going to do like why am I crazy like I thought I thought I had and this is the opposite of what I however I should I should restate that live your dreams like to be free to live their dreams you have to have like the Living Like Blood Parts select thing beating out of you and you have to take it and learn how to take it standing up and then smile and how does a gold medal physical and emotional heart function but for some reason on Earth why don’t you just finish it down was it yesterday in the morning and you say because I want to know of a solution and all you got is like you and Siri are you going to still that hard up with something of beauty they’re going to just like let it become like like Houston broken and like crap the pieces like a kisses ceramic that shatters and so many ways that you can’t apply the consumer D art form to like naked better to make it more gorgeous from before I don’t want to let it get to that man in so I didn’t it shows different that’s all you can do right on Manuel what does I think that’s a good sort of just catching up with bed and instead of setting the tone butt so tell me what what have you what are some of the the you’ve been through some nightmare scenarios give us some adventurous kind of thrilling updates on the record and say cuz we are because I don’t say it just lost my mind National way for me or anyone in a kind of situations that I found myself in such as being normal and that’s remember I did it start out normal normal I need to really not know what with all those pills in the nozzle Octonauts and not normal shit was it normal that had that brain injury was it normal that everything went crazy wasn’t normal so here I am like at the base of my life or the beginning of my new life not normal and so like I’m just so freaking proud of myself then I’m alive in Christ figure it out somehow that it was okay to be fucked up in the eyes of others that it was okay to like cars had your relationships and your familial connections and your volume note to Garrison in old friends and colleagues at all if that is okay. Burnt to the ground that it doesn’t actually matter I took to stick around that that and I can’t believe you this is just a process like a moment to moment. This is hard to do the Okemos but I decided to be okay with it cuz I like the sound of that word okayness like okay I want to see I don’t want this palatable how to build in my life just want to go to handle something because well it’s not great but thanks for that you know that okayness and dust you choose to be so all this shit this happened man I can admit that I know that some of it looks real wild and it looks one way and it could be another we live in a reality where we look at the freaking news in the United States obviously something is wrong in society is this also confused and 504 West so you know what I got it I got to stay right there you you have just stumbled upon a masterful mine hack and I am seeing from the outside Dimension as you’re saying but basically what you just described is that we live and we live in this world where the ships hitting the fan and there’s a lack of people feeling a sense of okay now and I really feel like we need to become more comfortable with with all week and we need to deal with our shit so we can feel the Okemos if you catch my drift I catch your drift Iko something’s been plaguing me on the inside because through the process I got it I want to admit it putting you and everyone in that everyone if you are not including everyone that’s a funny thing you know why cuz I respect the heck out of you and I’ve been like it’s been such a long exhausting journey of knowing you that for me is included me being embarrassed and people mixed with you who I just noticed this man was like surviving so much better than me and I keep coming this beautiful human being that I only dreamed like 3 years ago or whatever we got to reconnecting and I am pathetic and somehow believe I have you feel like we’re on the same level of me I mean I have nothing but but like respect for you by Prince you’ve accomplished so much and you’ve accomplished things that I am still still dreaming about accomplishing so it’s it’s a mutual you know Mutual sensitive of respect and admiration man it’s always so it’s the way it should be mad it’s like to skateboard is trying to learn learn new tricks together you know thank you man and thank you and the reason why I came I was about to say what I’m about to say this because the process of the journey this is bent for me is not just included me it’s included lots of other people sung by choice and then probably just a son who just ended up in the crossfire of my life because of other reasons that they may may may not have been aware of or been aware of their participation and and and it’s not okay to not swear on the show oh my God they say it’s because because I hurt all the time give a presentation on anyways and so that’s kind of what kind of what works for me man and his wife said that like cuz I look up to you as somebody who has just like refining for himself and it’s showing the whole world like this is what it looks like to be in a process of yourself and be better with better and better and better I was like my God I could never be anywhere near the degree of what are some sleep when you go through the process of becoming you when you’re like burns down and you don’t know what to do in the fall Society is his his his either confused with you you’re a huge mistake the doctor that’s a Schism you just get into situations that could be desperate and you might not know that you’re desperately might not know you getting into you might not know it’s going to happen next cuz how could you and then you get into this situation where you get into things with people with money and then Todd relationship stuff cuz I was like a weird dude already have to learn how to be like in today and all this crazy shit that I don’t know about your kid and like you’re always conduct yourself in the way that you wish and I wish you felt embarrassed that like this like how did you get here like one of these crazy stories amazing stories that I want to share with you a few but it wouldn’t be fair to me to the universe who knows me and watches this happen at the end of my reality who was the recipient or have experienced just knowing somebody in whatever way when they go into the burning down with your going through the process of Awakening that’s an ugly and painful and frankly does a lot of people who got caught up in that and I would every day with the with trying to like become more pure knowing how screwed up things worth time and knowing that your casualties to getting to a better place and that’s just a preface if you will to talk and but all the good cuz frankly like recently somebody had posted something online in response to something I’d written and they said they dude guy Craig I was like yeah really you ask cuz this wasn’t for me I’m in the process of doing fasting from social media and the more I take a step back from it the less I want to return back into that that mine state and f deleted some accounts I’ve just taken some apps off my phone Note sometimes I bring them back or not but I know a lot of the frenzy that you would get sucked into with trolling and drama online at school it’s Way Beyond normal human capacity to have any level of that kind of interaction and so I think everybody got everybody’s got taken for a ride and I think there’s only a few people who who. So I just burnt out but but really Purge that that toxic soup of emotions that comes from being in that frenzy and actually has the wherewithal to create distance so I’m wondering I mean you wrote the book on on peer supported mental health and now it seems like you’re going to have to write a book all about how to either navigate or avoid or moderate social media right wow the funny thing is that a you’re right about the social-media thing dude I want to write letters I think I love the fact that we can communicate and all this shit then it is just destructive Beyond any any you or you do understand cuz we’re taking the brakes and destructive Beyond any capacity that I have to use to find a better word with my. If I may say so Larry man like I totally feel that makes think about it it’s not constructive most the time when you’re not dealing with people who have skin in the game to a point where they feel like they’re they have to be accountable to not overdo insults and overdue criticisms it’s like if you were a tribe living together and you knew everybody everybody knew each other since birth and everybody was mutually interdependent for survival then you would have restraint when it comes to the extent of abuse that you would tolerate that you were perpetuate but when you’re totally disconnected then you have no skin in the game for survival with you with a group of people it is literally the most unconstructive way to process emotions information actual important social issues and Community issues that come up so please man yeah go out let’s just open that can of worms and laments profusely about that I think people need to get some that shaking out of that Paradigm will be well I think it’s constructive thing to do with all this beat it because there’s so many to choose from in my in my soda. I was thinking about that you asked me to write a book about social media like crazy out-of-control the truth is always some truth behind what’s going on that’s funny or not funny or not is that this really happens I like a guy ask you know if I hear you perfect out of control destructive I wish you could see right now and if you like like lights flashing I’m actually having my hands in the air like I am the king of the awful idle control crazy person public meltdown we shouldn’t be who I am today if I celebrate that ships the best baby should be a book or went to learn how to not do what I did cuz maybe my way is not the right way for everyone but the reality also is the Crux of all that is that the freaking internet and that social media chaos that I was unprepared for is it crazy person adult trying to find his way that was destructive they probably not just for me probably thousands of people or more out there who taught Derek distances that collapsed because they didn’t know how to manage cuz how could you learn if you didn’t know how yeah that is so Insidious it just creeps up and with so many things now I mean that it’s it’s cliche to talk about how the dystopian sci-fi of the 1980s which was what really Prime me for being prepared to deal with this time and being a warrior in this time and it digital Warrior and I still despite that training of of being skeptical of corporate fascist media Empires and what not I I live drink of plenty of their Kool-Aid and now I’m really thinking about how much I’ve leaked about my interests my desires that people who have wanted to be involved with romantically and the processes of all that stuff is basically being molested by those social media Giants and and I’m glad that I did not take it to the extreme to let people do which is actually like a lot of negativity and a lot of drama and a lot of accusations and yeah I feel like there’s a state of grace that is refusing to to participate in that in that should have been punk rock an Arco pump DIY 101 I mean we were always rebelling against the mainstream and back then it was the mainstream media and it was the one directional media of of the power elite news organizations and there was ziens and I like the way that social networks online could be decentralised but there was it there was actually an addict his backbone to that where it was people who were peer-to-peer building forums and building networks in chat rooms that were they weren’t being puppeteered by these these forces that are really there to serve the state ultimately to Amy so ever you want to talk about just let us bring this back to it to who we really are a man as like as anarcho-punks who were trained to think critically about technology and about corporate Fascism and the mainstream and then watching and watching ourselves get sucked into it watching other people get seduced and sucked into it and like how do we resist how do we repeal and fucking in Break Free then yeah yeah I respect you all Whenever there were born okay and basically what this comes down to is the difference between a fanzine and a Zine so we grew up grew up in this like reality where your existence fish eat that text that need within your soul and your spirit your heart to have an understanding to connect with the world in a way that brought you the feeling of like you belong that you were part of something that mattered that was what we call fancy right if you want to like try to give a little bit of a I don’t have described it with the word is a metaphor I don’t know when there’s also looks like her internet and then I just went over that and then it’s not meant to or with your is a 2018 something like that it is the difference cuz in the context of social media excetera that. That’s a defined difference between when you are living in an era an era where you haven’t desperation that is coming from this blooming devastating oppression that I have a sense about cuz we know as opposed to living in an era in a society where you yourself are being basically programs and I’m not trying to talk about some sort of like cuz we don’t we can’t see it happening is happening in Plainview people to be trained to be a certain way so that’s why you were programmed to almost beat our own enemy and what we were going up with back in the day and I’m just going to help my do by David Guetta in the late 1980s I’m not going to beat around the bush here about that it was different we tried to communicate and understand and learn and educate and Shear in very different ways that did teach us a way to be in the world that I’m certain you will agree allowed us now we have success as I’d like free people quote the same doing and be because we’ve learned in in times in through methods that were popular then and almost unheard-of now up the punx to that brother yeah man it’s funny cuz this whole thing about fake news it’s like back in my day was all fake news what he’s talking about like you wouldn’t trust any new source anyway and there it is just as weird commingling now everybody being sucked into the Demi celebrity trip to of of the the platforms that make you yawn I’m I’m kind of in recovery from from drinking the Kool-Aid to man sex you want to keep up with it that we were ejected all that and anyway I don’t want to get hung up on that on that topic but I know that a lot of the suffering that you have disclosed to me privately comes from just being Dogpile on the internet you know yeah it’s because I started get rid of all those people where they got rid of me or with mutual or it wasn’t but either way it happens does it is disconnected people don’t make you feel good and just I just it’s Ash and it that have to happen if I feel personal about anything I ever did cuz I did was like face reality here but not always been an easy field person and that I had to use I have to push people away because of my own craziness and Highway but nonetheless coming to bite my tongue well yeah sounds like you have a healthy sense of taking responsibility for things as one thing I love talking about is if there’s no there’s no bifurcation really in your personality you know you are who you are and you don’t the candy coat that very often sounds like for people to get in love it or leave it for one moment I want to make a statement here at that you’ll agree it’s okay I’m completely I’m completely nuts and I’m definitely if you can put this in quotes but I mean I propose cuz it’s I think it’s a great courses true and in quotes right here I’m good crazy I think for the first time in my life like yeah so what I know this is a bit crazy like I can look so what about yesterday right now and tomorrow and the next day I could just make more good crazy happen I’m so sick and tired of that crazy and I could learn to hold burning down of everything so I could get rid of that bad crazy what do I do whatever I have to do including and a much to the weather for next to the disdain for the right word but it’s good enough I come from it with truth which makes it pretty hard core but also I’m doing it because I don’t want to have it be an issue anymore so that’s craziness go out of control on the internet and then have a V8 if you will occur Abernethy Bridge with some that is very necessary if you need to heal then so be it but I’m also purifying so deep deep traumatic abuse that I experienced and if I’m not going to have a really group of participants or people in my life is one of his old stuff it’s still going to come out and I sure as heck ain’t going to end my life because our or go crazy in a way that’s going to get me locked up in a bad way Lawrence OB I’m going to put my shit out there I’m going to speak the truth and I’m going to let let that be how people figure out what’s up what’s not what matters and what doesn’t button in no way shape or form do I do any of this because I want to it’s because healing comes from getting out of your system to things that aren’t making you feel toxic and that can include interpersonal stuff you can food a thousand different things and I and not going to be silent if being sounds will keep me sick so speaking truth whether its preferred welcomed or not it is actually putting an end to the hurt and that that does also result in and include who serving of ties with many sometimes it’s unfortunately intentional but who matters here for me more than me just like anyone anyone else is the matter for them most at first you need to matter to themselves first and then most importantly so that’s life and I’d rather just choose the most Ford and let the let the heck’s come because the more I get hit the more I’m sure I’ll Never Smile act like its neck and that right there I believe that everyone else had the world to learn how to do and it’s Graham said out of would never put this on lips Alston and Lasting here sorry I go on and on I’m not sorry actually grateful for that time the more people learn the Dakin’s like punched and kicked their way out of the traps that they feel themselves and that doesn’t mean that’s because if it’s a whole process of getting yourself to where you need to be I want everyone to know that everyone can do that it’s going to suck but if I can do this in a Hertz at continuing low I mean living evidence that you can continue to land on your feet than everyone else can too and I don’t care for what I have to say you can do to go live your life and do the best you can be in frankly that’s what I’m doing so fuck off but still please do your thing so you can have everything that I’m going to yeah that was a time and experience as each day goes forward to live in that happiness cuz I want it and you can have the same thing so like fuck I’ll see you later come on back whatever but piece that sounds good man well I know some people who were listening to same I feel kind of lost on what what it is what kind of dancing around here if you don’t know how I know you know you can obviously be as candid or as reserved as you’d like but I feel like it is I would say correct me if I’m wrong but in a broad sense you you stood up to seven justices in the world and that kind of cause the shitstorm of not okayness that week but you prevailed your okayness prevailed over there not okay Miss in the midst of a shitstorm online and not just on its just oh my God can you break that down for us to whatever extent you know isn’t they’re breaching confidentiality or probably not actually not in jeopardy. The funny thing check it out how about I have the moment there who doesn’t you think you have to do when you produce this thing later that they released you have to just two levels and now you know you might take a note oh my God yeah man and just try to keep it brief cuz I can’t be a maniac about this I got to try to come best light for my good for yours in the whole world that you’re you’re Mania Mania Maniac don’t know what was basically I got freaking screwed for doing my job and it’s okay I went to work I was working as a mental health worker I loved what I did and he might stem from the first report back to the Survivor background I was trained and frankly Grant I’m glad it all happened because I couldn’t I don’t have a day job working someplace and having a bad Vibe by the rules of the system which ultimately dictate working in another house feel like I was I was working at this mental health place that was running all about people live experience week we’re all certified peer specialist I love what I did and was your place different part of the state but I buy a new company little did I know that the guy I was working with what’s the sticker McDonald’s scary misogynist I wasn’t familiar with like that degree of creepiest and I was also supposed to be professional and I was getting paid and I had to work another place you working at the mental health worker you have to adhere to certain rules and guidelines of course cuz if you don’t I’ll call Nicole borders new teachers Nursery School teachers in a kindergarten doctors excetera East you have you aware of abuse of a person or in your care if you will or but you have suspicions of it which is also legitimate your required by law in laws law whatever you can take it or leave it what lies you believe in cuz look in the United States right now it’s crazy how ever this is something that we all hold true when you working in the in the human services are helping professions that said it was my requirements that I had no choice to make a report because there was a situation that just frankly was as it turned out was bad this is not an acceptable thing for some people that I expose this in a series of extremely disgusting things occurred and I ended up looking like the bad guy and they really made this The Narrative we will and papers well and ultimately they found out that the report I made was true they found out to the guy that I’ve reported was documented by independent clinicians Adams facility that didn’t work for a company contract in this pretty I’m kind of providers giving groups support groups and then they knew because my report was the same as theirs and they never put it to the facility that my report was already known so they knew they had a guy in there who was behaving a predatory waste for months for two months then he got caught again but but other people who documented the sexualised behaviour and once they had found out that my report was true of any of the guy who is the supervisor my supervisor without telling anybody. Even the assistant director of the HR Director secretly after I didn’t report and it put it back into the same place where I’ve reported what he was doing then he got caught again twice too much later I feel like I’m describing once they had knowledge that I was telling the truth well that wasn’t acceptable and that was the end was me as I knew it was the end of my career as I knew it it was the end of everything I knew and this is during the same time. That after 28 years of my life being intentionally harmed by psychiatric medication for the purpose of keeping me quite I was able to get off of all this I cash medications in fact with the insistence of a team that’s more than one psychiatrist insisting that it was a medication making me sick and they need to take all the diagnosis on my file and the whole nine yards man 20 years of my life on a bunch of bulshit give him his pills and you need sick many everyone throughout my life experience 28 years I mean tonight to you need when I met you in person at all the crazy thing happened at that show moving forward but this is all under the clown under the fog of psychiatric pills that were given to me to shut me out to keep me quiet about Happy with a child adapt a bunch of psychiatrist now when that time. Ike 2008 1314 look at my medical documents and look at me and look at the book I can read and look at how everything does not make sense and say you don’t have these conditions that you’ve been medicated for all your life that it was known you for 28 years as a person drugged you need to go out these pills cuz they are making you sick you’ll never have a chance to have a better life to continue to take the pill this is being sent to me of yet by psychiatrist is it we’re changing what your diagnosis on your medical record you do not have these conditions and I went and I saw my primary care physician in the file and right there just as they said debunks debunk ebox trauma course the charm is there cuz well that’s what happens if you 20 years to be confused this thing with the job is happening at the same time. That I’m getting off these pills and I’ve gone to heels with vinegar text mountain people that my community are angry at me also just left me for side of my job and then I go to Europe for the first time the person I was traveling with to give a presentation a t a take a conference I first time ever going to Europe dream come true after that conference I went into a sauna and Upsala I managed to me within 10 minutes my body had had basically detox rapidly and from it within the fat cells in my body after 20 years of taking psychiatric medication like tearing off the doctors help I did Poison myself in Riga Latvia and I was never the same since I started to slur my words and I was fried more more crazy stuff happen ultimately with all resulted from this is that I lost my home in January 2018 that’s my cat January 2018 I already lost most of my friends call these people thought I was crazy I got into Financial stuff also get social things like most my friendships are getting more and more the tax I lost a bunch of my personal stuff and most people like it truly care about and I still do you know what a live with no real idea what I’m going to do to try to listen to travel the world and find a way to create a new life find a way to connect with other people to find a way to Love by the way to connect by the way I create a new business and Nueva to survive using the foci are offered in different languages and also the English language like you crying and Kosovo you know it Poland and and giving presentations are in and talk circles in in in in you name it healing from trauma healing from abuse how to survive being possible he has been crazy sometimes I misunderstood all the time trying to learn how to be because I never learned as a child I never had a coming-of-age I was drugged for 14 on to all the cells have the same time I totally feel comfortable in my own country I don’t think I can work this is presents about me just like it’s like psychosis around me that like this guy why was he sick while he was mentally sick of these other word but in fact maybe I was drugged how can you explain to somebody week like that wasn’t you it wasn’t me but it looks like you sounds like you I can’t quite I said the pills pills were what were making me so fucked up or how am I supposed to know the difference your right respect all I can do is say you’re right you experience that crazy shit with me and that was real few doesn’t matter if it wasn’t me it was because of I was poisoned for my own good of course that’s what happened so I can only say goodbye and I can’t change that to this is the reality the past four years is always have these things happening in the world disconnected from people from people that have no more going to call ain’t going to call anybody you know is going to pick up that’s how do you find whis when you don’t feel comfortable in your own land cuz you your language is English it’s a dominant language in the world and and you’re a guy easy to just try to reconnect after all these years of chaos you supposed to be a certain weight verifications of you you can escape to past so what are you do what did I do what the heck out of there as I said travel the world very difficult very painful very lonely very hard very beautiful and in that 15 months how do they communicate with people with languages that we do not share what do you do how do you find your weight you can’t just go crazy like I did in a couple years was the way somewhere West getting killed in the airport in Paris I lost my shit you can’t do that you have to learn how to connect on a spiritual level that you can’t communicate people will know your energy just like a cat or a dog you can’t let them experience you went away that you’re going to be repelled by how you learn how to do that how do you learn that’s what you learned and that’s what the story that’s what the backstory is the backstory is a story it’s like five or six what’s it like in your own way with wreck somebody happening at the same time and just by the grace of whatever it is you believe I resulted it was Ulta didn’t me finally getting to the point of saying screw it almost going to go live why can Liz get a Visa they did and take a little money had and get a a place that was furnished and so I did and how I live in a community and I need some friends and that’s the story that’s that’s what you’re asking me it’s like a 15 minute monologue but that’s what the story is it should make enough sense of all this meat is missing tons of pieces that music house ugliness lost torture resulted and be speaking about all we have prior to keep me answering the question if it was up to them that being a store that I can talk about with a smile and with some sort of like humor because I know what resulted in like where I’m at now thank you so what is the advice you have for people who are whistleblowing in organizations where it sounds like sounds like you were is a recipe for disaster in that because anyone could say that your credibility under those circumstances everybody in a situation is the pot calling the kettle black and in a sense so for people who are direct me totally just a source of your strength to overcome oh my God it was it wrecked me I can’t believe them alive direct me so much that I’m laughing about it because it’s like well at the very least it’s always warm here like every piece of shit wasn’t nice to me back in Massachusetts I guess what in the winter you going to pay for that heat and for those of you out there who struggle so I don’t have to deal with that anymore thank you thank you I could have stand I’m coming around to this myself which is that I feel like there is there was a time where I felt like I had to go out there and I had to add jatate and and have a high risk tolerance and a high risk appetite for being involved in the potential for liability of the potential for things sort of backfiring it in in in in doing my work and now I feel like I survived some pretty epic chapters of risk and now I’m finding myself more risk-averse and less risk tolerant and wanting and actually being able to say no but I’d rather not put myself at risk by not that I’m totally disengaging from everything but I will say that that the the duty that I felt I had to be out there in the mix of a lot of chaos I don’t feel that that I feel like I I slay that Dragon I slay those demons and and I can live with myself comfortably not feeling like a coward and not feeling like I was avoiding those those efforts and I wondering if you feel now and it is something that make people can resonate with that they can learn powers that you know you don’t have to fight every battle you can choose your battles as long as you fight some battles and even if you don’t win you survive but you know you did what was right you don’t have to keep doing that forever and you can get yourself the fuck out and go and retire from The Madness of fighting a lot of struggles where it’s a losing battle sometimes and you can just enjoy the face so you know live to fight another day you know you know they say Don’t run you can run away and live to fight another day or you could stay in a place that you’re not going to get out of one piece nnn regret it so I don’t know just want to say that I congratulate you for for doing the right thing and then getting a fuck out of there before you did actually get completely destroyed you know yet well you know what me and your trusty Craig motherfuking Lewis you know that’s what happens when your trusty Craig fucking crazy person Louis I just don’t need that to be sampled probably just got myself some was going to have fun with me with that but that’s okay it doesn’t have a certain that what was the question Bedford just let me be me to take two more of a general commentary and sense of wanting to see the bigger picture which is that sometimes I guess I was seeing if I feel the same way about the politics of insurrectionary Street protests and you put yourself out there and you put yourself in a meat grinder lot of people do and they end up in really serious trouble that they didn’t bargain for that it’s not really sustainable certain forms of resistance are not really sustainable there’s new waves of of people who are going to come up into that but you have to know when to win to what’s the country song what’s the country song when you know how to hold them oh my God yeah it is you don’t talk about anything yeah yeah quit while you’re ahead and I was going to quit while I was ahead I should have just never done shit about the so I made a decision take out the stand on my two feet and stand up when I knew was true and for what I knew was the correct thing to do and to what someone ever did for me when I was 15 years old and then that horrible facility being feminized and section leak destroyed and and and humiliated and have a whole life taken when I was 15 in those two so they locked me up in just got too many times I had no way weather right I didn’t even know if I believe in the Universal God whatever they want to call it if I want to call it whenever I look to you for my my my my my my peace I didn’t know dude in 2015 that’s what I was doing that was a sending that to a better place cuz of what all I was experienced by me throughout my life but there was no way there was no way any any shape or form that I was going to permit and using my legally-protected role as a mandated reporter there was no way I was going to permit what I was witnessing happening in front of me to people who were the victim of assault and simple ways I was when I was a kid and when I was a kid I asked for help and no one helped me I would love to rot and take it there was no way and 2015 that I was going to break from my responsibilities and I just didn’t legal responsibility responsibility responsibility but the opportunity to make sure using my power that I had been given by becoming certified to work in the role of I had been working in there was no way I was going to go to deviate from that there was no way I was going helping that individual with a moment of peace when I was not afforded the very same thing that I deserve as much as everyone who’s ever been a situation like that woman was deserved and I stood in my two feet and I would do the same thing right now again because it was the right thing to do and I will always go to look myself in the mirror and a camera and whatever I never that was right now looking forward to move on and it doesn’t matter that like I got crushed in the process and it come on how many people are going to listen to this I thought his back but I want to hear about like awesome stuff like so what like what kind of fool of myself are so funny and it’s true what kind of fool thinks it’s a good idea business right now you all know them for one important reason it is important as a valid and it’s to be honored and respected but it does not mean you should do business-to-business okay and you don’t do people like yourself what’s a crazy people that word with deep affection Love because as professionally as I previously identified I want to be good crazy so maybe good crazy so that’s where I go to stay However maybe not everyone’s good crazy maybe I’ve not always been good crazy not truth what a terrible idea to work intimately with people cool ultimately it’s true cuz he went to humans ultimately it will save their own skin for doing the right thing because not everybody is not their fault it’s the reality is reality. Everybody grows up with like a street addict or knowing how it is to be closer to the bottom and I fortunately or unfortunately I am how you stated feeling perceive things many of the people that must have people that I was involved with what are of a higher class if you will or better way of living or a different kind of environment that allow after Sosa to delete it I never had it so I don’t blame them for Being Human but certainly did lack of understanding of what it meant to do what was right was more within me as a person who was straight talk and someone who grew up in just I guess nicer and perhaps more supportive of surroundings which I did not Amen brother that’s the truth right on that what I think yeah we should I think we should call it a show at I was at Adventure I was expected nothing less than and definitely you delivered on bringing bringing the the the healthy crazy that healthy and powered acknowledgement of what it takes in like hey was the word of of CO2 I remember that song Still if we’re never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy right so I believe that I believe it I feel it I’m the same way I’m definitely letting go on some innovations that have helped me back and I’m feeling more free and more wild and less less compromising to people who may not agree or understand what I’m trying to do and there’s a way to there’s a I think there’s a way you’re proving it and I’m I’m catching up to you honestly about getting to a point where you just you give no fuks about being a walk in your truth in speaking your mind and people don’t like it they can they can shove it up their okayness yeah and I’m okay with that closing statement a lubricated sex toy and gently massage it as they relax the sphincter into their anus until they filled okay no I don’t want to use shoving it up your ass says this is your word is because on the township on podcast we are all about putting the anus back into Okemos and putting the penis back into happiness all right have you seen the movie the interview Seth Rogen when they go to North Korea and they interview the North Korean dictator they say that they hate us cuz they ain’t us all the ants talk is that this is going to be listened to and I can ask around closing statement obviously my lots of curious people about Craig Lewis and better days and all this crazy nonsense stop podcasting a plus with all the craziness it’s hard to get work when you’re up when you’re allowed muffins supposed love for myself it’s awesome but all the people are the characters in the world I want to see I love you and I’m grateful for every person who has ever existed in my life including every person who has not been nice to me with every person who is abused me iPhone I am quitting the worst ones and I don’t want you all my life but I do forgive you because that’s the best for my. You’re my love for myself and also I just also think it’s very relevant necessary because I know this would be listen to cuz people whose voice and I’m staying right now will you love me or hate me or whatever it is it’s okay it’s okay because things have been crazy and I wouldn’t want to have to hang out with me sometimes the way things were but I can’t imagine being someone else it was horrible I was going through a living you know what I don’t want to say that word because I choose to like try to be better doesn’t mean that always succeed as you all know that you can I I’m grateful to be here today laughing about it crazy just going on I think some things that come out of my mouth that bow that’s pretty intense stuff sometimes I like using my brain is sometimes you say things that are little bit much so what I’m grateful to be here now I’m grateful to everyone if I’ve hurt your feelings or offended somebody will the problem with a reason but I also feel like that’s not okay so I do apologize for being hurtful because when you’re fighting a battle and you feel like you’re you’re experiencing or you’re proceeding being under some sort of Oppression you do things are sometimes don’t always make sense and you fight me ways that not everyone’s going through Fluevog so I will recognize this truth that goes for everybody including how I’ve communicated with you in the past and I have not been easy so this trip this accountability this acceptance of yes it’s not been pretty getting to this place and I am I in a gray spot now I’m working on it and it’s because I chose to be what I wanted to be and I tried to walk my talk and my Straight Talk sucks sucks sucks so I’ll leave you with this liked my dear friend and be host to talk about just suggested you can just get that lubrication and like jet me like take care of with best the love that you deserve because you deserve to feel good inside and however you find a way to feel good inside I know the tundra parked behind and I think it’s fair to say that I’m behind that to oh my God that sounds crazy that wasn’t even planned that I’m sorry but yeah oh my God I think it’s happened in my brain and that was thank you Universe this is crazy I don’t know what to say if it doesn’t get any simpler than put the anus in Okemos and put the penis and happiness and we will all be living in it beer peace more peaceful or more fulfilling more abundant world man so I think that’s that’s that’s what I asked what it comes down to and and I store is the next time I bought the world travels but that’s what I thought that’s what the best and I want a wonderful rest of your evening and we’ll be in touch again soon I love you so much and I love you so much for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition assassini and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email said I turned your punk. 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sidenoteThis is an interview with Reena, one of my tantra teachers/mentors. We discuss how activists can benefit from a path of spiritual development that will enhance our health, wealth, power, and visionary consciousness to apply towards all the good causes we fight so hard for.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved so welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 6 this is a conversation that I had about radicalism activism and spirituality with a dear friend and Mentor Arena so I hope you enjoy it and learn a lot and I mistake I’m going green now is especially my talk to her mainstream Consciousness from buying green products to trying to get more to this abstract concept is Mother Earth where you know it’s kind of a whereas from a more traditional cultural perspective it’s actually experiential and something is very real and very different types of feminine energies and all of that I think it’s becoming more apparent green Consciousness and you know the re-emergence of the goddess in a in a very abstract symbolic an on-and-off and commercialized way you know what this better nothing great but there’s a different deeper need to to go back further in time and to reconnect with deeper roots of connectedness I think you know to to the planet and Consciousness and energy and Divinity and there’s definitely a lot of time-tested methodologies and techniques and kind of sacred modalities to for people to in modern modern people who are there ways you can teach people in modern society how to find that within themselves within the plant cells have a long introduction but I just wanted to tie in the context of why this is relevant to going green and I think it is important to I look at things in this way so do you want to kind of give him the directions yourself what you’re involved in a little bit about your your background and and then we can get into some pointed questions sure my my name is Rita Desai I know my background is in social justice organizing my my academic back on his in economics and politics and I was organizing mainly in the area of workers rights and and anti-corporate campaigns and it’s something I mean social transformation social justice is something that I am very very passionate about I mean I can talk a little bit about this later but my most fertile rewarding work was in India where I was coordinating a campaign that was resisting the rise of corporate retail chain you know because of the destruction of could have on agriculture sector in India and also because of their wave of Twitter material culture that is that it is bringing currently and that it would it would just reinforce and you know it was through 2006/2007 an end and working on the campaign and I’m meeting with a large amount of success in this campaign that I realized will external at the end of a year-and-a-half I was completely burnt out and and stressed out and just not really a nice person which is when I came to realize that something needs to change because if I’m really hoping to build no transformation in the world that have to be sustainable so it’s through through through my head of organizing pass into what I called in a lot of ways external organizing that I came to realize I can’t do this without putting myself in my own self development my own well-being into this work until I so and so I am now doing what I call Inner transformation linking inner transformation to social transformation work where I am I’m bridging spirituality with social justice and within this process really going down going through my own spiritual path which you know which you brought up sort of the rise of the Goddess now this is something that’s something that I’ve been studying something that I’ve been teaching in terms of reconnecting to you know my feminine power and and and helping to teach women to connect to their feminine power as one of the greatest sources of Our Own Strength confidence Health Vitality connection to the Earth and also a power of 4 for social transformation what I’m doing now is is is is consciousness-raising and in personal personal transformation for this larger social transformation now that was great that was perfect thank you for sharing all that and down actually one or two before moving on I think you mentioned before that you hadn’t been able to work with friend on Toshiba is that correct oh yeah when in India we it was a campaign ad campaign is called India FDI watts and so we worked we assembled a pretty broad constituency of groups individuals that were either directly or indirectly affected by the country of a multinational corporation still Vandana Shiva was definitely a big partner in in the campaign and Lord of the work that she has been to bang around you know around fighting corporations and agriculture sector of the WTO and various other trade agreement that and also genetically modified seeds as an Arbiter had a lot of respect for her work and I’m also the fact that she so commonly on they’ll promote the concept of egocentrism which is something you don’t think that we hear the women’s lives after the sixties and if it kind of subsided in the main thing before before I became to sleep with a clear we’re even had the sensitivity to be looking for it I think that’s a huge issue and you know kind of set up Helsing Academia and hasn’t had a lot of water but I think one of the people who really put that to the end of Praxis and release you know Alexa Hands-On practical application and wanted to give you a few questions here and we Define spirituality for people who literally have just lived their whole life and I left brain and everything comes wrapped in a package and goes into a garbage can or recycling bin and very thin rational linear reality that you know the Matrix and that doesn’t separate or seperate holy place to experience you have a quick definition of spirituality that you can use to get people dancing well I guess for me spirituality is in the broadest and maybe in the most basic sense is is turning inwards is you know is turning inwards and recognizing that we have an inner life you know that that isn’t necessarily all based in the brain and an in a lot of ways to connect connecting to the heart and understanding you know the truth and of the heart and listening and understanding what it means to actually live through the heart you know I I’ve been thinking about this a lot in terms of how to talk about spirituality with people involved in social justice movements and involved in the last because it because it’s interesting that that in a lot of circles and definitely in a lot of circles that I was a part of you know it’s part of the labor movement and producer organizing there is this this this notion that you know that going inwards that’s that personal transformation that spirituality is something that is only for the elite to do when you know when in reality it the entire all of the structures that we’re sort of critical of you know capitalism is based on materialism the entire structure is based on finding fulfillment from material objects and and everything that is external to us we do we don’t need that I mean this is something that that we’re actually turning away from in Western culture right now this this constant consumption is constant need to find happiness in something external ourselves and so for me I mean spirituality is really just to to turn to turn inwards in to find you no understand what happiness is from within 2 2 too costly open to Greater levels of love and you know and truth from within ourselves and really sort of transcending the ego and and and and examining you know what examining you are how we have been taught and programmed in a lot of ways by Society by the media buy our parents you know and so for me it’s too sweet to go inwards and to really find Freedom by coming to higher levels of consciousness that come from inner truth as opposed to the outer truth and so I mean that’s and in the end you know what it really practical terms that means it means personal growth and I’m committing to one’s personal growth so you know there’s they ancient Priestess traditions in India and the goddess traditions in India what they would say that you know these bees were women who devoted their lives to to God or to a higher power and really that that means what it means to devote yourself to God or to vote to devote yourself to you know a higher power and means nothing more than to devote yourself to your own personal growth and to always you know understand that that that this life is it’s for for for growth is it for development you know we’re not perfect none of us are perfect and so-and-so spirituality for me as understanding this end and constantly you know developing ourselves I’m going into work to do this Slavic radio going inward Guided by the heart and grows in Kirkland almond overall pretty comprehensible 14 I like working definition Cosmic Dimension but it’s not a sort of like point A to point B with here in a spaceship and go to the other side of the Galaxy it’s like lit murder Consciousness into higher dimensionality so that space and time the way we can see them in four dimensions you know it’s transcended in and there is no attic of the cosmos end of reality that include and get transcend space and time and figure out a way to making music people to understand I think from what you’re saying experience and going inward your body into like a vehicle to travel through Dimensions early and have greater access to knowledge and greater access to healing energy and insights and all kinds of things that coming through from different song more than more than what we you don’t scientifically except to be the physical limitations of putting two ancient teachings of Tantra are our bodies are microcosms of the universe you know within a sweet contain the the greater universe and so we have tremendous. Tremendous capabilities within us if we if we are if we actively to tap into this and work with the energy that we have are the energy of the universe that we have within us but for most of us if we don’t do that you know and I mean it really is I mean you’re able to reach higher higher levels of consciousness and and you know interconnectedness in and and different dimension at the same time I mean from it from the perspective of you know actually creating real change I think spirituality is that what should also be looked at it something very practical you know in terms of spiritual tips to do physical exercise to take care of yourself to take care of your body to live healthy you know to to be a happy in relationships tune to know how to rid had to know how to have healthy healthy and happy relationships a lot of the teachings that that I am learning that I transmit are based on ancient sword of principles and ancient wisdom how to how to how to live and how to live happy you know and then of course you know as you know to sort of one piece with one piece of the Baseline things are are taken care of cuz we need a strong Foundation to be able to reach them of the higher-level dimensions because if you don’t have a strong Foundation if you’re not able to actually live in the world you know I’m function in the world then there’s also not it is supposed to be coming store that’s it it’s very hard to put practice into action it’s hard to bridge the spiritual with the social you know if it’s all up in the sky yeah I think it’s like at all I mean some of that Carly Ln truth but like what I Look At You No Going Back even before civilizations emerged to be able to create text and writing systems and to be able to go to fight and reproduce culture in anything but a oral traditional way I mean cuz I said for the 99% of human history we all lived in tribal shamanic cultures where medicine men and women wood would they would keep a lineage of teaching and wisdom of thicker plants and sacred rituals and chanting and techniques to enter into ecstatic altered state and be able to see the future or be able to harness some sort of healing energy would be able to direct healing energy and agricultural portal into these other dimensional so what other types of things another current running through it and running through ecology in the earth’s ecosystems yeah it’s really nice you’d like for modern society to not have you know either the demonic and under more different ways in in City culture I’m interested in like ways that people can see there’s not and really like to disconnected from the daily you know Community either they’re sort of religious or spiritual person on your like separate from the community in it true in some cases with the people that like you know really what the reason it does not receive any of this is so that they can maintain I was thinking of the teachings in the traditions and that sort of Doorway to the portals but they’re their function is to be Distributing that that information and energy and wisdom throughout the whole culture that everybody has some you know practical means to have access to these things that are beyond our normal sense isn’t our normal day-to-day life and fill I said you as an instructor and cuz I know I experienced the workshop and I was blown away because a lot of stuff that I hadn’t courtesy erratically believe in or around her stood or heard about functional experiential physical reality for my body and my spirit in the moment this time I really love to for you to just kind of briefly outline some things are not necessarily because things out the top of your head where you could just say like at 5 tonight or whatever but you know way antenna count liquid calendar do this gesture whatever anything like that. well I think it’s very important for it has been a very important for me to have to have sort of like a daily practice that I do every morning and then I should have that I’m just a planned and doing for me you know and and and for women and for men definitely for women and dance is is one of the best way to start to open your feminine energy you know it’s it’s it it’s a great way to sort of to get the energy up I mean at the end of the day everything that that I’m doing you know is about increasing our energy is about getting like raising our energy so that we have more energy to email to do what we want to do to most of the people are listening to this are engaged and you know social transformation or activism so even physical exercise if people are in exercising physical exercise anything that is really going to hurt to get your energy up your your body even in shape this is this is important sort of a more mental maybe psychological level two to start to examine just to start to to try and stay in a state of observations you know I exist as I think it’s and might be easier said than done is it comes with practice you know but two try to someone says if you’re watching your thoughts you’re watching your emotions you’re watching what’s going on in your life to try and stay in the state where your observe bank and it allows for this sort of space or the scats of Detachment that allow that that’s allowed for Freedom you know in in store in the way that that you actually that you react in a certain situation so and you know along with this to to examine the deeper sort of roots the root the roots to various situations I think a lot of times you know we can get caught up in the story if you know this person did this or that did that happen and I felt like this and I bet you know whatever it mean to not to sort of break out of this pattern of the stories we have to really get to the routes of what the issues are in a lot of us are carrying around you know deeper a karmic issues block that would carry from childhood that are the roots of a lot of the experiences that we have in our daily lives today especially if we haven’t gone back and heal this or examined this you know this is being tired process of self-transformation it’s healing and when we talked about so do you know this new era of Consciousness that is coming with new paradigm that with that we’re entering into it’s very important that we ourselves are healing the past you know that there was that were there were breaking from the past that were within us you know asking. So that’s possible to sort of embody light and love and an end and some so we can bring in this sort of in-body the new Consciousness bring in the new Consciousness and so I mean just being active about your own healing process your own to the growth process in out so I’m very you know this is this is sort of people feel differently about these things I have a spiritual teacher you know I study with Master’s and Anaya this is for me my past and I think you know it’s it’s it’s a huge huge resource to to go out and seek teachers and see communities of people who are also on you know a spiritual journey it’s it’s because it’s it’s very you know it’s a very it’s a new way of living in a lot of ways we’re not we don’t live in a spiritual society and culture right now so so to sort of open up to a lot of maybe they were the resources that exist in your own community and I’ll and find something that resonates with you one thing I would say is that a lot of times when we talk about spirituality we think that spirituality is meditation and it’s it’s not just meditation and in fact meditation is sometimes the last stage of a very deep spiritual path because it takes a level of deep concentration to to read some of sight some of these higher States and meditation for me I mean a lot of What I Do Is Dance Dynamic meditation these practices about her I said that I said it showed which I can’t really demonstrating over the phone but you know why would you knows I would I would just emphasize I mean art is healing spiritual so so yeah I mean I would I would I would I would I would you know today is is for everybody to come out the most important thing is if you are open and you want transformation and you want changed to open to it and to trust the process and to trust that you you know we’ll find what resonates most with you but you no interest in terms of started the basics I mean it’s it it it it dies at the beginning it it boils down to living a healthy life you know taking care of yourself taking care of your body taking care of your emotional states you know so can you give a brief rundown of I need the first time I think I got really in touch with it on a experiential level not like a very open-minded I’m very one of them out there people that I actually know but for some reason I had like for a long time since elected to do the work to try to connect with the experience of that other truck assist on and it was a having a thing double jointed or not it was like what it means to me or how I can tap into it and you know it was in your Workshop believe in it but the other for the whole point of the movie of you know there’s a lot of religions that are based on beliefs but there’s a lot more don’t it’s not like oh you’re you’re lucky to have a once in a million years once once in a million lifetimes like Vision or something that’s what I like more about the sort of holistic open field of spiritual practice and development is it that are okay and that aren’t like it’s okay for a new spiritual experiences for people to write their own and then also youth borrow from traditions and try to instead of traditions in Italy like in your case if you’re able to you know find Masters that you resonate with so that you can start on a path cuz I mean you know you don’t want to be a jack of all trades and master of none and I think that’s like in California like everybody’s like fraction of a thousand different you know that’s a really modern Western sort of the highest states are the ones that put themselves to the most action you know you can find out if you it makes sense and then you show me some pretty quick way to get in touch with that I’m thinking like that Morristown luminous color settle energy field yeah it’s based on the the chakra system in the chakra system is one of the most ancient sources of knowledge of how you know the energy that exists in the universe and how we are connected to it to the energy that exists in the universe we have seven basic chakras and each of these suckers for the vibrate at a different at a different frequency and they’re all connected to to a certain energy in the universe is the root chakra muladhara chakra it’s it’s it’s between the believe the anus and the forgetting that it is basically there are genitals and this is the the chocolate that’s connected to the Earth to stability it’s the color is red it’s considered ones out it’s all so this is where a lot of our health issues facing this chakras right below the belly button this is called Succasunna chakra it’s orange the element is water it’s more of a male chocolate such a girls sexuality of passion at the at the at the belly button this is our solar plexus this is fed to pigs called money put a chocolate that check up fire it some or other personal power these passages about her at The Witcher based you know in martial arts they’re all for the focus on this chakra building confidence power this is our ability to live in the world are ability to make money the people who are ruling the world have very strong money put a chakra the above that is at the Heart Center is on a hot the chakra this is such a higher emotions of love it’s also consider more female chakra at the throat is sore should the chocolate is a chocolate creativity of our inspiration and it’s it’s more of a female chocolate let me have a vaginal check where this is at the third eye this is intuition it’s also Focus concentration the check up higher purposes and then above this we have the crown chakra which is our connection to Universal energy sew in they took the different levels of the chocolate cancer the position is is closed where they’re blocked they’re not functioning and then they’re open which means they are functioning and under emanating which means you can actually give me through through your chakras cuz they’re operating at such a high level by and large amounts of us in society today live at the like the first two chakras you know a lot of the spiritual work that’s out their focus has an opening that’s at the higher chakras but but but lacks in front of the ground it like that the lower chakras and it’s very important to to have to be operating at the lower chakras in order to be living and in the world and functioning in the world so a lot of the work that I do and you know that and also the teachings of the school Universe energy Arts it’s based on first making sure that our lower three chakras are clean their functioning and you know that we have a solid Base by which to work from for higher-level Spiritual Development and it’s always let me know we’re always liked working with all of them too so do you know to 2 to be balancing but it is right now and especially for especially for activist that especially for Spiritual people activating funny porchuck Road that’s what I’m working on a lot and I think that’s the checkered to live in the world to have power to have to make money in a lot of us think that money is bad when money is just really energy and it you know an end with it I mean an ancient civilizations with you to do math and that’s a good for people that shift in this society and culture has become so corrupt you know so to be able to sort of transform the world to really transform the culture of of money and and within a lot of us is it sits in his opening up to our own personal power own ability to attract you know situation then and then careers or you no work that that we can live on so this is everything all the practice as a visualization meditation they’re all based on on opening to these chakras having a rigorous schedule of initiations and exercises and things to do, push pushing to the limit so that you can find yourself but I might the path that I’m on is not the spiritual path of you know taking it slow it is definitely when you need to but it’s also very much about raising energy concept of increasing our energy that I were able to do more in the world that were able to be more highly effective but at the same time we’re in alignment with the highest good with ourselves in a with universal energy and the idea is to to build community you notice to build spiritual communities and it’s the school’s very well-established in Russia they have you know they have thriving communities of all throughout Russian and South America and Europe but to start to build you know this this Consciousness in a sustainable way in El Sol so in a way that it is it is in a holiday and really seeing results in your daily life and it’s you know it’s it’s work to Spiritual Development personal personal growth it’s work you know and it does take willpower and and should have disciplined action to do it that doesn’t mean like I don’t want to give the conception that you don’t have personal power and it because it’s all driven by yourself by your own sort of willpower you know that you you you get what you want what you are what you want to put into it and it’s always a self-driven process and it’s not based on Doctrine or Siri it’s always sort of operating in the Universal thanks you know so it’s always changing and Dynamics with sometimes drives me crazy when we have when we organize something like two days before you know two weeks before something but it’s it’s it’s a beautiful process yeah it does look like the Exxon Valdez oil spill and just like thinking of that the spiritual oil spill in the last several thousand years of patriarchy and it ain’t no expansion of Empires and weapons technology horrible things that had spilled site toxic horrible toxic violin the karmic ocean of our Collective human existence on this planet and night you know it’s easy I think for people to seems easy for people to just continue to live their life in the latter in the rat race and Yelp bear the saloon and just kind of keep moving along and it never that never really knowing what what it was like before you know what we’re an island called a dominator culture before that emerged you know if he has no perception of it out of sight out of mind and it just becomes and there’s a whole story of how we really being not to be a part of a harmonious and peaceful. Is it called you know reconciling this destructive negativity Southwest 2000 years ago extreme destruction and Corruption it just seems like I believe in the idea of progress linear progress so that while we started out as primitive Savages and we’re only you know we’ve gone through some dark times but we’re only getting better but become more alienated for myself and for my community through more devices and more interfaces that are totally artificial and antithetical I mean I think I definitely do know the internet spiritual communities to find each other in Tukwila link for the inlet in a competition the Ecology of competing ideas like we have we now if if if we can sell something better to people so then the system sell a product to their material appetite then we can really think do this massive cleanup jobs of Karma and do this massive play crafted like you said like a lot of the reason that we need to be Warriors in the you know I’m going to put the ice I’ve heard that word in the end I’m I’m putting I’m saying it in a conversation out idea of becoming more using spiritual power and power a lawyer for the past to be able to do this work of cleaning ourselves and cleaning the planet and cleaning our values that really like you know materialistic values it’s really important that we we do like Master the stuff and and and really apply the time to ability spiritual communities in spiritual culture so that we can opportunity to what do you think about starting to wake up. I think it’s the cool thing about to come out of the coma of consumerism of the responsibility to participate in not just stopping things that actually healing things and doing that like literally on all levels to know what do I think about that process yeah I mean just the idea we haven’t talked to you much about like that Karma and the ice that idea of it but you know the spiritual this Collective karmic not or like why should people get spiritual just so they can you know cuz a lot of people are selling that angle you know but have a better more fulfilling personal life vs. the people start the grass that scented like yeah I am I need to take responsibility for like the last several shutting down either so you know if it’s such a cutie ask and but the more Synergy we create together on these in a spiritual community I have a rapid impact female quickly I mean I I think we’re approaching a time where we are changing as a resolving as you know a race or as a species where it will require healing our past or passed our individual paths and also of you know of of the of the world today I mean that’s the thing is once you want want it does go down the path has appealing and and transforming and does go down the path of having healthy relationships and more success and you know an dentist in her happiness it’s a natural process that you want to give that that you want to do you want to have other people live in this and it’s it’s kind of death it’s almost like Maslow’s hierarchy of needs and self-actualization you want to start getting back it’s just a natural process the reason that we don’t have that right now you know the reason you can see this clearly in like it with all of the stuff that came out about George Bush’s daddy complex when was carrying so much baggage so much you know pain within ourselves then this manifests in what we protect in a world so and this is also why a lot of people don’t want to open up to it you know don’t want to go down the path so so really too I mean it’s completely it’s very connected to enter into this new era to enter into a new era of Peace of love will require that we are healing our past to embody in for the greatest level of peace and love within ourselves so that we are creating we want to see an end when we were us when we’re talking about stealing I mean this does going to take it we we heal our family, we go back in two generations and he’ll you know and break out of the cycle that is that has been carried over from our parents from our grandparents and really start to break even come into a new way of existence you know this is the sort of deep healing that happens by Ice it’s kind of like I asked you feel it do you feel the changes that are happening to feel the shift in Consciousness with new energies coming cuz a lot of people feel it a lot of women feel the rise of the visit of the divine feminine it’s it’s something just that should resonating with people because it’s how the Earth and the energy of the earth is Shifting because who knows male energy has become is it and it’s not specific to manage mail energy within men and women has has reached its point that they can’t go any further and so naturally to rebalance we have you know the feminine energy that is coming back and we feel the Swiss ourselves cuz we’re connected to the universe you know and then we’re a part of bringing this back to the universe so so it’s so sudden I disable just become harder and harder and you’ll see it when people don’t commit to their own personal healing and fur it’s going to become harder and harder to exist in this world because because the world is changing because the energy of the earth is changing the energy of the universe is changing it’s getting it’s it’s it’s it’s getting it’s increasing basically which is why I threw you know the spiritual practice we’re increasing our energy to be able to be in alignment with this and is and is part of that it requires it requires you know examining and healing our karmic blocks and and everything that we carry from childhood and NBN before so sore families the beginning think you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show indigenous sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Township Park. 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