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Greening Revolution and Rainbowing Spiritual Love with Vanessa Soulxo TPP286


In this episode I’m joined again by Vanessa Soulxo for a soulful exploration of the deep cultural trauma that’s being purged and healed in the world

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Vanessa LeMaistre’s path has been unconventional. Broken from years of childhood sexual assault, not having a father to protect her and an ultimate lack of self-worth, she woke up at the age of 25 as a lost soul, having dated a mix of men, including prominent celebrities who didn’t respect her worth. Deciding to wake up and step into her path, Vanessa began to practice yoga and spiritually enlighten herself through a series of texts, before suffering a tragic loss of her son, Kamden at 9 months. Throughout her journey, Vanessa, a shaman, provides spiritual insight from her own diverse experiences and channels her late son to do so. If you’re looking for an unconventional take on wisdom to transform your life, please attend her Soul Church or contact her via gmail: vanessasoulxo@gmail.com to receive her services.

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My Non Verbatim Show Notes

TP: feeling blessed, compounding angel interest

your strategy, adapt church to online, inclusive non-hierarchal church space, colead, cofacilitate, forced to adapt to cyber space model, for a little while, got some ideas how to start building up fellowship, when things mellow out, have strong fellowship


happening a lot smoother than I thought, just graduated, logical thing get a job, use degree, not my path,

smoothly happening, took the call, go with alignment, what’s in alignment with my path, spread energy 9-5, spread soul thin, not my path, leap of faith, people can help build it up, I can’t do it by myself, if I should up if there’s one or two people, goal is to listen to the call, multiples of people can come, join in community, really about community, build bridges how to communicate,

unity in community, you see communities where there is no unity

friend, adopted, jewish, all about community, be honest with each other, solve a lot of problems, honest with ourselves, be there for each other, cultivate during a time like right now,

sense of urgency, set up communities

encourage, more individuals build community, stronger collective

switch things, hierarchal, old paradigm, going from capitalist mindset, to age of aquarius, excited for newer generation, more queer thinking,

swtiching out of putting everything in box

more multi-raced, how to do you put somebody in a box

community, accepting people, taking away biases, what can we learn from each other

allow to be vulnerable, egalitarian based

online, challenge, we’re not in a physical space, virtual container

curious how it’s gonna end up, could be really impactful

counsels, all my classes were counsels, professor wasn’t talking at us, we were running the show

never know what’s gonna pop off, speak honestly, speak from there heart, stand in power be fierce, use voice

hold power for someone else

white guy, going through what’s happening, what’s your suggestion for white privileged male

giving back to black communities, telling him, bluntly its time to give your power away

makes you more powerful, when you’re able to empower others

blacks in our country,have not been given opportunity to really shine, haven’t been given platforms, opportunity to be heard, most don’t get a chance to talk in groups, marginalized

more privileged people hold the power

excited, we can come together on line, really be real, cut the bullshit,

get questions, oh this is a church, what’s the doctrine, what’s your faith creed

I’m listening to sources call, asking how do you want me to bring people to you, root of this, really the goal, bringing them to the light, to connect to source within themselves

takes away black and white, male female gay straight,

how can you dress sexy and be taken seriously as a woman,

how can you not be both

break things down, we are switching from an older paradigm, no longer putting things in boxes

churches, judicial, educational

personal healing if we’re not doing something different, not changing, things are gonna be the same

different approach to church, no body wants to be churched at

TP: a lot of positive triggering and stimulating triggering as I’m listening to what you’re saying, all due respect,

for me to own my privilege, and disclose my bias as underclass white male who is straight passing, able passing, most part euro american mut, I don’t have any facial tatoos, put on suit and tie, hair cut, I could make my resume to the nonprofit sector, also corporate, if I had any minority cards to play, it would be that I’m not heteronormative, survivor, come from lower class, ptsd, a lot of invisible wounding that can be debilitating, impact ability to be type-a ceo, conquer of the world, the potential privilege appears on the surface, a lot more going on there

get it if I’m in the black and white

I’m okay with starting there, that’s what I’m passing as, if you want to get to know me, be curious, don’t have white fragility problem, I can take criticism, and blacklash

we may not have discussed before, good time to talk about all these things

instead of becoming a yuppie, I dropped out of the system and going movements mostly of people of color, all fighting for the underclass

solidarity with people no matter what race

people of color I’ve been in revolutionary organizations and projects with, covert operations as whitey

ways to use that power, give it back, be strategic about it

a few things come to mind based on what you’re saying, empowerment, new paradigm

outline a few things

one topic Ron Finley, guerilla gardening movement, almost 10 years ago, gangster gardener movement, bring people into understand that south central los angeles, food desert could be food forest

took over parkway, made strip of grass and weeds between curb and sidewalk, made into lush beautiful edible garden, community, educational, bounty

world class fashion designer, city came to fine him, tear it out, under estimated his sophisticated, marketer, green thumb, ted talk, more drive thrus than drive bys, killing people, kids who grow kale eat kale, plant some shit

leadership for minority community, highest co-morbidity, people of color, diabetes, obesity, health of community, empowerment


next level thing, I bow down to him got to hang out, talk shop, mulch

still rocking it, tearing up the headlines

you’ve mentioned permaculture as well in your works

that’s a topic

I want to go into your thoughts on the health crises, food choice, under class, people of color, gardening opportunities, ecological,

conspiracy of big companies, junk food

if we have time walk through some of ways that people of color who’ve been colonized by christianity, raped by gospel of christianity, reclaim sacred space of devotional activities, worship, navigate fact, people who are gonna not want to let go of that, on people like you to bring in medciine, plant medicine, new revelations, new chapters /gospels to the bible

me, nerdy white man intellectual, try to get down with the people and plant some shit

greening, movement, uprising right now

whatever direction hopefully influenced by people like you, lyrics of hip hop, consciousness, spirituality

VS: keep wanting to record reggae, positive conscious

for greening and next leveling of the movement, so much in that with permaculture, food justice, human rights, food justice, education, all those poor neighborhoods, filled with junk food, liquor stores, health food, don’t have it

set up unfitting way for blacks,

public schools, low funding, not taught how to do permaculture, ties in perfectly what you mentioned, people of color being raped by colonizers

psychologically, taking away opportunity for them to be educated,

paradoxical, most people of color ancestors operated on indigenous ways, permaculture to some degree, grow and plant own food

grandmother helped raised me, know which plants to take, go on walks, plants for certain teas, for ailments

taking away, stolen, brainwashed, psychologically, don’t have access to that education

cuba, sustainable, economy crashed, poorer countries really great models

teach kindergarten, how to plant

waldorf school, silicon tech heads send children to outdoor schools, eating mint leaves, fascinating, kids learn from early age how to have such a good food source for their health

benefit in so many ways

ancestors knew that

grandmothers 91, no health problems, ate naturally sourced foods in back yard

marginalized people, have been ripped from opportunity to be educated, should be on front lines of best education possible, compensate for robbery

spirituality, practicianers work with plants, medicine, witches, shamans, balancing the earth, not doing hexes

living harmonious ways, more intuned more health, mindful, what we’re intaking where’s it coming from

I think that’s really fascinating

overall global crises, eating cleaner, less pollution, climate, better systems set up in a way, poor neighborhoods, low access to health

people of color I know, southern comfort food, most people in family diabetes high cholesterol, fried chicken everyday, not educated

more people to educate others

TP: definitely taking about reggae, what means are there, we both agree, I’m humbly, deeply informed and moved by your experience, better than mine, horrible influences, horrible diet, health problems remedy through gardening

what the problem is, who needs the reparations

reggae, people say definitely homophobia in rastafarianism, what are edges of queerness within religion

reggae gone far being, roots of reggae coopted into more mainstream forms

positivity, vibration, influences, indigenous, african, also stuff from western theology

lyrics from Bob Marley’s,

every time I plant a seed, he said kill it before it grow

reggae, I think there’s revolutionizing of reggae that has to happen for it to be medicine for the people, the vibration of guns, violence, misogyny, rape culture, toxic masculinity

looking for people who are gonna take the ron finley lyrics, put beats behind them

Paris, revolutionary hip hop, personality, artist, paris, the coup, dead prez, a lot of reggae,

ice-t, chuck d, rebellious, got out to lower class white suburbs

so profoundly influenced, tried to get hair cut like favorite basket ball player

couldn’t be more of a fan of the culture of what was spoon fed to be

by the corporate pimps,

hegemonized bling culture

nino brown, new jack city, whole thing of trying to be the white corporate business man ceo, take over, how cool that is, a lot of spike lee stuff, shed some light on what’s in the mind of a would be conscious white man, wants to care, want to give back, find good in bad

make sense of things

a lot of putting on table for you to put me in my place, take me down a notch, riff, rhyme, other well meaning white people, I was raising my fist, so down for the cause, show me where I can join forces and not be an annoyance

VS: feeling you,

the fact that world has been operating to cater to your breed as top of totem pole,

you love black culture, raising fist, think our society stills breaths it, swims in it, billboards,

something revolutionary, collectively on global level has to shift from top tiers, people can see things differently

colorism, we have different levels to this

field….or in the house

confronted in circles all the time, black me say I’m the only black woman they would ever date, you’re good cuz your light enough, or too dark

brain washing of colorism, so fucked up

there’s black people who’ll take the side of white man, hate themselves so much

world didn’t favor to them, classism within racism, thinking to themselves, talk white, look a certain way, may not know how, may not want to sign up to do

job interview, get on phone speak more “white” or more proper

theory programmed into brains, white is right

mexican woman, family came from mexico, had to assimilate into america, hispanics, white passing,

dismantling, becoming really aware, seeing with clear eyes, this is what’s been happening, more people privileged, can claim their human right

like whatever you like, culture, food

makes world beautiful

a lot to be talked about

white women favored more tan darkest women in the room

so many beautiful beautiful black woman

love all people, exotic

men not all thugs, many educated

such a shame that we are underneath this mind control

so brainwashed

we’re just people, just human being, friend trans, I’m not gay, not trans, not drag queen, I’m a human being, make more sense, more in touch with reality

attachments, pain and trauma

we could learn a much more rapid rate,

learn when I travel, how people living their lives in their culture

we put up such barriers

you’re different you like that

I’m better society tells me there’s this superiority

black privileges, educated,

dismantling, I’m not better than any body

just human beings

memes right now, world in uproar

great, most action I’ve seen, people showing some form of pushback, end of day

how often are we checking with ourselves, not better than so and so, all equal, not about me

actualizing the fact we’re all equal all human

how reclaim sacred space, gathering fellowship worshiping, christianity

TP: either admit Jesus was black or stop talking about Jesus

VS: wouldn’t that solve everything,

why are you all so judgemental, least open minded people, I’m gonna have the most problems with christians

TP: researching cults, blind spots, you don’t know what to watch out for

permaculture, balance with weeds, medicinal, edible, listen, pay attention, not poison them, ecologically literate, patterns lead to corruption with power, how do you prevent becoming a cult of personality

saying, those who don’t die a hero, live long enough to become a villain, really scary, studying that stuff, I want to have fans not followers, because of my art

charles manson, david koresh, documentary on cults, reason manson set cult devotees to kill famous people, basically jealousy over his failed music career

its so interesting, I’m only feeling the hilarity of this, pitfalls and traps of nacissism, permaculture, too much capital, pollution in nature, power money wealth influence, redistribute reinvesting, you think I’m so good at something tell me about what you’re so good at, you’re as important as I am, I’ll scrub toilets, rotate positions of power

what if everybody in a church ceremony was given equal time

indigenous way, every body including a grandmother read medicine plants in the landscape

work to be done around figuring out how to honor everybody’s contributions

dating game, racial politics of sexual, economics and politics around body types, ethnicity, film, based on true story, talk radio, based on guy, Eric Bogosian, jewish shock jock radio host, killed by right wing racist, can’t remember all the details scenes of him being in radio booth

taking calls, offending people, offensive to bigots, pissing people off, death threats, hate mail

line from movie, wants to expose people subconscious actual worship of exotic people, you know how much money white people spend on tanning booths, tan lotion, white people feel sexually inferior

I have been upstaged, from deep voice, size of the junk, to swagger, strut, soul,

Jerry McGuire, white man can’t love

do you see that that’s people loving each other

tight lipped having tiny lips,

white guy I can say this shit, I can make fun of my kind

I’ll say there’s an inferiority complex around having small lips, high pitch whiny voices, flat butts, flat chests, skin that gets burnt in the sun, you can see the veins through it, reason I have to be jealous of sexual prowess of people of color and african people

things going on genetically, so honorable, worshipable, reconcile, how do we not leave people out

I don’t want to over…

people in my life who’d say you’re an evil bastard, part of the patriarchy because you do enjoy exotic partners, you’re fetishing the other,

actually that’s natural biodiversity, jungle fever, go out of tribe, all of the world, person form another region, boom boom time to diversify gene people, love sees no color, no separate races, fighting losing battle, urge is to you know, white settlers ran off into native villagers, token white refugees

so much native american /african american blood mixing

if we were more poly and open we would find ways to appreciate and honor and enjoy the diversity,

even the whole breast thing, beyond race, very honest answer, matt dillon, singles, white romanic comedy, small breast groupie girlfriend, seattle grunge rocker, hour glass syndrome, rocker feels entitled , shuns gf, comes full circle

she says to him, are my breasts to small for you, he says sometimes, very honest

subplot, scheduling self to get boob job, doctor: is this mr right or mr maybe

more honest sometimes im in the mood for this, diverse experience, go out for this restaurant, diversity of romantic, sexual experience

I don’t have enough of something for somebody for every, diverse array of people, everyone’s covered

valuing everybody at different way different times


VS: so many powerful things, commend you for being open so raw, something humans don’t honestly say on any context, oh I’m so jealous, takes away with what’s there

taking to my french gf last night, never thought about it like this, I think racism is all this small dick complex, screen shots poster, someone protesting said that

something about being open, it could be open, I’m jealous that this girl has whatever xyz, growth in putting in on table

accept differences

commend you for being honest, saying that

I don’t know what its like to be a white man, you have swag in your own way

so beautiful, being confident saying what you’re saying

so much, powerful, impactful

thank for allowing me to go off

I don’t think I’ve felt comfortable with any body else

this is the time to do opposite of being more divided

love to see queer orgy make outs in the streets

arrest me with love

racist, bludgeon with police night stick, do anything but be on knees worshipping

shadow of jealousy, napolean dick complex

VS: conversations like this, getting there, take away the fog, not hate black women, dark skin women so much

treated different, we’re not ignorant, people born smart in their own way

bold enough confront self with honest,

how can I love myself more

TP: if you love self, want to see best and most beautiful in everyone else

take care of yourself, already beautiful, already god/goddess divine, just take care of yourself

ensemble cast of lovers

winners and losers, either get the girl, princess or oppressed slave

I would love to a woman to say to me, I like you, but I love this and that, what if I bring a wing man, can we get it all on together, I’ll be your booking agent

everybody plays different roles

some people I’m mr friday, some people I’m mr tuesday, as long as I’m not mr never to anybody, is be fine, goes both ways

can’t we all just get along

that’s my trip, sorry, adults only in my church

good times

VS: that’s great

back to horrific, world of pain and suffering and agony and disaster, we’re having almost too much fun, to pray and feel into the real terror that people are experiencing now, grief, morning, poverty despair, lack of abundance,

we lathered up some good energy, how can we give it back

people suffering, better vibes

VS: really tough right now, a lot of heavy stuff, I’m excited for the church, excited to see how conversation gets led, we’re strong, it’s in our blood, we’ve had to survive times like this before, ancestors did, do have hope, keep chugging along, very proud as black person to witness black people handle this so beautifully

not talking about looters, distressed

tiny percentage, news casters portraying it was a big percentage, what I’m witnessing, majority of black people, very commendable, strength, don’t see war, yes there’s anger,

beautiful how blacks are giving their white allies the opportunity to step in and show up how they need to show up

whether getting on knees or holding a door

blacks welcoming this healing process, already in it

feels like a healing

different access, food , education, resilience in black community from ancestors, chugging along so beautifully, be seen, heard, stand in power, have it not be taken away or stomped on or ignored, brink of brand new horizon, brand new awakening

chance to rise

empowered community

finally getting opportunity to hopefully rise

this is very hopeful time

Guerilla Yoga with Survival Wombyn Jazmin TPP167


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In this podcast I’m joined by Jazmin, a yoga instructor, community organizer, activist, bookstore owner. She’s a social media friend who has become a heroine to me as she shares some of my deepest and dearest roots in the ecological anarchism movement. Her spiritual activism and activist spirituality are sincerely humbling and it was very healing and invigorating to explore her insights and feel proud to earn her respect.

We discuss:

  • guerilla yoga
  • decentralized yoga
  • racial politics in radical movements
  • political prisoners
  • state repression
  • modeling
  • camming
  • sex work
  • cryptocurrency
  • college life
  • community space
  • cooperatives
  • patriarchy
  • gender politics
  • the survival wombyn eco-educational modeling project
  • and more!

Here is the link to her Survival Wombyn profile page:

About Jazmin:

I embody a yoga practice that is at the intersection of holistic wellness and social justice activism. My yoga practice, is diverse and ever-evolving. In the past five years, yoga played a significant role in my personal development and transformation. I am living proof that disciplined empathy for yourself,  will change how you show up and interact in the world.

I am passionate about supporting all communities, this includes those communities who often have limited access to personal care and holistic resources.  It is my intention to build bridges, weaving among diverse groups, sprinkling yoga as I go. My intention is to empower people to cultivate a more holistic relationship to themselves and the Earth. Meditation and yoga are the practices I utilize to embody actions for radical personal and collective transformation.
My social media is:

My paypal email is:
jazminfrancescayoga [at] gmail [dot].com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township on podcast episode number 167 I am extremely excited in just grinning from ear-to-ear because I have Jasmine as a guest on the show and this is the the very exciting Adventures background that I have to to lead up to our conversation she has been a friend of mine on social media now for probably a good many moons and also a listener of the podcast and it’s always a treat for me to just find out that random different people from all over the world that are tuning in and getting something positive and empowering from this and to have somebody step up and just kind of time in really is affirming for me so it’s like wipe she goes by the name black girl affirming on Instagram and I feel like she’s helped this white boy give a little back formation and if I says so it’s been fun yeah we’ve we just had a bancer online and there was a time of you know I would say that that the cheat sheet she gets my heart racing and as I see your posts and and she’s easy on the eyes and all that good stuff and you know but I wouldn’t have I wouldn’t have crossed the line of propositioning her to be hired as a model I don’t want to end up using that as like a unprofessional Shady pick-up line you know but but I was compelled to be like damn I got to know if you’d be willing to take money for some of these pictures if you’re shipping because you’ve got you know the vibe that I’m going for them looking for as far as women who are empowered and have a story to tell and are doing cool things in the world that are inspiring and and also being willing to play with erotic energy and actually engage in and share a bit of them to set themselves in an erotic matter with the world and so whenever I see that whenever I see those two things together it it it makes me want to reach out in that way but so that the the real what makes me so ridiculously happy right now is to talk about this is is to describe that moment where I saw the one little Instagram clip little video clip that that push me over the edge and it was this a scene with a beautiful like small kind of Creek little waterfall Rock somewhere in a lovely Forest environment and there she was burying her fairness to the world from a nice full backside kind of perspective in and she’s first facing forward or you’re facing away from the camera and then there’s is very slow very meticulous and methodical turning over head towards the camera so naked and had her turning over her shoulder and then there is the absolutely most mischievous yet playful and somehow Innocent but it totally inviting look like I’ve never felt so invited to anything and end but it’s left to your imagination so it could be that you are you’re invited to also take her clothes off and get in the water or you’re invited to just sort of let your imagination roll and and I I think I was in that moment just feeling like this is the quintessential expression that if only women in the world were permitted and facilitated and in in secured and inhaled safe to be able to be able to express it as they want to be then then there will be a lot more of these beautiful moments for a cell to for taken and nothing in for all genders and for all Expressions you know to feel like hey this is me you know here I am love it or leave it whatever and son is just so many it’s worth a thousand words and I’m and I’m going to use a screenshot as the as the the assertive profile photo for this episode so anybody listening please do yourself a favor and and get a deep download a deep deep Country transmission from this photo it says like this is how we all could be living you know naked men like trans McKenna said we know where we really want to be is in the jungle sitting in the jungle naked stoned and exalted and and that’s how I want to live so you know with all the with all that said a couple little things here is that Jasmine is a yoga instructor a community organizer activist and a bookstore owner and and she will be one of the very first survival women models for the new website that I’m launching at mentioned a few times in the past and and we’ll get in to kind of the the the thinking behind that and how we you know we’re going to collaborate to really changed shifts and paradigms in a really fun and empowered way so we’ll get into that later but for now just wanted to say thank you for bearing with the too long intro and Jasmine is going to know take over and lead us on a nice some grounding kind of intro and then we’ll get to hear all about her in her own words a band that was beautiful and so honored to be on this podcast with you today and I just want to take a couple of moments to kind of ground and center before we get the chatting so I invite anyone who is listening to this to find a comfortable seat if you can’t find a comfortable seat that’s fine to invite you to close your eyes if you’re not driving just began to turn in and word and Bill the contrast of the heaviness of the body and the likeness of your breath maybe you take your tongue to the top of the mouth so you create a nice little part between your lips and your teeth and I hope your breathing slowly begin to let your ex house become a little bit longer than your in house maybe you call when your favorite see it to you right now where energy or spirit that you like to work with whenever you’re ready believe again. The eyes flutter open and bring yourself back into this moment all right Manny ready I’m ready I am so ready I was born ready for this cool so yeah tell us all about your personal life journey to lead us up to this lovely moment they were sharing Barry as well I am from a small rural town and you know I’m one of those places where there’s not much to do besides getting in trouble so I’m actually really blessed that somehow that my past was a lot different from a lot of the kids that I grew up with and I think a lot of that had to do with like the the matriarchal family I was brought up in had a strong grandmother even though during this time so I kind of just thought she was really strict she’s actually creating like structure that a lot of children crave to start at 6 and set three light and three growing up with her she put me into an early college high school so I graduated high school at 17 with an associates degree I went off to go to college I graduated college it’s Manny with a ba in political science college for about five years now so I’m 25 and most people would just be graduating college right now but when I graduated college like a lot of people kind of experience this like shifting your like like where you feel like okay now what and during that now what phase is when I begin my yoga Journey my yoga practice and that was five and a half years ago and a lot has changed but the one constant has always been my ability to come back to my map and for that I’m really grateful and I think have self-discipline through my practice has really shaped and mold me into the woman I am today so yeah that’s fabulous your accelerated I love it there are these moments of acceleration where you’re like you kind of like blink and then like a years have gone by and then you have these moments where I like things kinda Canfield. But really that’s just the time of resting there to be honored to you know right on yeah that’s that’s very interesting is this the first time I’ve heard of a program of a high school where you could actually be getting credit towards College simultaneously that sounds like a very opportune in yeah I would love to see that via the way for people to be more empowered and more set up and I have to reinvent the wheel so much with so many wasted hours if monotony and rote learning and all that stuff so yeah how was your college experience it’s kind of a shitshow I think up until that point I had been like so sheltered and really like a nerd for lack of better words you know it’s kind of cool now but back then it didn’t feel too cool so when I got the college and I was like by myself like any country girl who finally gets to the city, but I was able to keep it together enough so I can walk across that stage tell us more about the wildness if I can’t imagine what you mean by that College was a great experience in the sense that that was the first time I had really look like I had an opportunity to like really explore like black urban culture like I said I am an African-American woman and I grew up in a rule town and many of my school years I was often like one of maybe like three black kids so is a culture shock in that way and you know I’m forever grateful for those times like the relationships in The Sisterhood that created really like been lifelong friendship and he has so many of the people I went to school there doing incredible things here in the area that we lived in especially in the activist and organizing community so I’ll go ahead and I’m going to mention this I hope she’s okay with me mention this I have a friend named glow who was a part of the Charlotte Uprising if you’re not familiar with the Charlotte Uprising it was a series of a protest that were triggered by the the police killing of an unarmed black man and weather has been really in transit in that movement and is facing felony charges for conspiracy and like starting a riot and all these like what does Tactics with the state uses to impress black voices honestly and so if anybody wants to support glow you can support her at like Charlotte Uprising on Facebook figure out how you feel like donate to her legal defense funds and yeah and so like all of us and now we’re like out here doing this like activist work and back then if you knew you would never think we would be the ones like on the front lines protesting because back then we’re more concerned about partying but you know well that’s best music to my ears. I definitely had a similar experience yeah but partying and getting political and political partying it for being a little more on the for me you know I’m the anarchists kind of spectrum of just wanting to break down break down all the organized religions and all the organized political systems and get really really raw and him back to the roots and I know ya without disclosing your your whereabouts exactly I know that there is a I mean we have good good very deeply nature connected kind of movements that we that we both share so yeah Anarchy for life oh yeah so good part owner of is an anarchist bookstore so we we we focus a lot and Anarchist literature and having a very diverse selection of authors and you know Octavia Butler you know emergent strategy and brown Bell hooks You Name It We got it has been a really good experience for me I thought I was bad until I like teamed up and started doing this and I was like well I could be way more rider that’s awesome it sounds like it’s kind of a Cooperative kind of structure is at how do you how do you do that it’s just really interesting and really this I’d love to spend some time on this because a 25 year old entrepreneur in that space but also doing it in a minute in a more collectivized sense where you’re not trying to always be the lone rock star or you know carrying all the weight by having a healthy business Dynamic where you’re serving the community and your hopefully you know appealing yourself away from the working for the man you know and making living it’s doing things right so how is that you want to tell us about it just a Dynamics in so people can get a good get inspired to do some other things a lot of people are starting to wake up to you it’s the idea that you really can’t do it all by yourself you know like we’re so removed from like community that it’s just so much to take on especially when you look at the state of the world now that you can be really depressing if you try to like fix everything by yourself and so I think like working with a proper dose is been really like therapeutic for me like the bonds that I’ve built but these people but you know in a traditional work setting maybe have like a cold and you’re just really not feeling up to par but you might not necessarily have that intimate connection to just be like you know what like I would like to give 100% today but you might get 75 and this is why I not feel judged for it because we we don’t prioritize our work as like in a sense of like a capitalist labor mentality like our work is more of a in the sense of service start Unity so yeah I love that I have the ability to like lean into that a lot and I think it’s something that’s really missing but you know I’m we talked about entrepreneurship I feel that that’s been the white one of the cornerstones of my generation is just being like you know I really don’t want to do the nine-to-five thing is like forever confused when I let got a college about like why I was so depressed and so miserable and these jobs and it’s because they’re not normal you’re not in it so like an office desk or Worse do you like hard manual labor for like hours of a day and like get like an hour break has not normal it just doesn’t make sense to me when I started linking up with like-minded people I was like Oh My Tribe thank God I’ve been looking everywhere for you guys. I feel exactly the same way and I was just having a conversation just about the drudgery and the sort of repackage slavery in a lot of people you know you would have more of a deeper authentic voice on this issue the me one of the ways to think that people lose sight of just the process of building Empire in Civilization is that you know the The Branding on slavery has changed and their arguments have been made you know you can audit them better than I but just saying that essentially the it was in some way some people would argue I’ve heard the argument that that no slaves who do the slave labor have to earn in Spain money for rent and room and board and all of these other Aldi’s Aldi’s other necessities of life that that were provided in so-called traditional or official slavery now the trick on everybody and not the least of which being the freed slaves is that oh you’re free now but you still are under the impressive system still have institutionally disadvantaged and marginalized in the whole pyramid of privilege is still a pressing and on top of that now you have to pay rent now you have all these other bosses in oppressors and it’s like the only way to break free from all that is to do what you’re talkin about which is collectivize and share resources in and work for working with each other and serve a community in an end then you can really be free of of having to feel pressure to work for somebody else’s you know Empire to even survive I don’t know how that sounds you know if I’m using the right language but curious about your thoughts very deep question when I when I hear you speak up a couple of things come to mind me I think I like I wouldn’t be the first person to say like today’s caplis labor is slavery I would attribute more of that like modern slavery slavery to like the prison industrial complex just because like I mean the way those people are treated in prison is just absolutely disgusting you know I am a part of a collective that collects books for prisoners and like they can’t even get hardback books like there’s so many regulations on like what they’re allowed to even read in prison that. Feels like that’s very much like like somebody having like literal control of your life where I think you know in like capless America like traditional Society like we do have like a lot of leeway in that sense but other thing that came to mind was you know how the system of capitalism rely so heavily on when men and women’s bodies right because ultimately we are the people who reproduce the workers are right and that’s something that really came to me and that the way that like our government tries to regulate women’s bodies is so deeply High to capitalism. if you want to talk about women’s Liberation we have to talk about the dismantlement of the system that no longer is working for us you know yeah yeah those are really really important points I’m glad you brought them up and they had those are whole whole topics for whole other episodes that I will definitely have you a recurring guest in knowing when we so now there anybody listening to understand why you know why I’m so thrilled to have someone with this level of insight to to be on the show and to bring help me come back to a more radical more more insurrectionary even kind of attitude towards the system and you know I’m really not here to to put on rose colored glasses and make everybody into Township Bliss bunnies that just Frolic and leap over all of the Shadow work that needs to be done so she had sex magic which is like I would love to see a people’s movement rooted in spiritual health and sexual Liberation and that didn’t happen a lot I mean even I know the Black Panthers were were systematically terrorized by the FBI and they would even implant it wouldn’t plant home-wrecking informants and in Plants insiders to actually fuck with people using jealousy and using the tactics of of like really Mike fucked-up monogamous drama to fucking ruin the movement and say okay if you had resilient sexual magical tantric tribes maybe that shitt wouldn’t work maybe they’d have to go through 74 initiations I know even the The Weather Underground SDs that was more of a of a white kind of elite more elitist and white kind of movement that they would do homosexual initiations to not that I know exactly all of the historical details about it but I believe that the thinking was that to break down the structures of patriarchy that they would they would in some places require a sort of homosexual kind of initiation and that probably also was a way to say oh you do you know any if you’re a cop in the room raise your hand okay now now you have to like stripped naked and join this orgy otherwise you know your we’re going to know your I don’t know if that anyway I could there’s so much to learn about about these about this movement so again I just I think we’re going to have lots of fun on going you know exploring the stuff and I’ll just leave it there for now but yeah go ahead. I will shut myself up and you know it when we were talking about like you know like the FBI using like jealousy and like these like like kind of Primal like Musa kind of fuck was like I was really lucky to do you like an all-day group intensive workshop with Alice Walker and if you’re familiar with her she’s the author of The Color Purple in search of our mothers Gardens you really famous Friday and my question for her was like how do I continue to show up as a community organizer as activist and like take care of myself at the same time and her response was you have to heal yourself first before you can show up in that capacity so you know especially with like Daris amen if you’re not doing that emotional labor like you’ll you’ll get you’ll get there like you you’ll make strides but you it can be easily triggered and this I told if you’re not working on things like jealousy and you know like these Primal energy that can be really a distraction at times yeah that is that’s great advice well we’ll so now it’s okay so I’m just so thrilled because normally did to this is I mean I’ll say that there is a lot of well well meant and really justifiable tension and hostility between and among the genders and sexes in radical communities because there is so many creditors that go into like direct-action campaign and end up trying to you know he’ll actually a lot of those people are are the cops I got to give away a dead giveaway is at the agitators who were sent in there and if they’re not actually trained it call Monica or whatever they’re actually just sort of people that may be a flipping and doing the sort of treacherous and traitors stuff of being maybe they got busted for having a joint and then they said hey go and fuck with that that direct-action campaign and we’ll let you off or whatever but you know I’ve seen those kind of people and they come in and they are the ones who were trying to sexually manipulate and violate women and to create that sort of drama so you know too too kind of frame this discussion little bit around the sexuality you know the ideal of sexual Liberation in radical communities and then the sort of shadow of How It’s in some places we can create Anarchy especially like deep in the forest when they’re did say they are far away the system is actually far away and then there’s a lot of you know enforce the fence campaigns that I was involved with there were rapes and molestation and abuse has and there would be the sort of tribalism of the you know bands of Brothers kind of breaking off and fighting the women who were really literally fighting for their lives and fighting for the forest because it’s all that stuff so you’re taking a very bold step from that away from that that more siloed and hostile attitude towards me because you could have really been like who the fuck is his douchey white dude talking about you know all this Liberation stuff and in a part of that is very true but you’ve been you know forgiving and being an open to me and now we’re having this conversation about what’s really going to be me taking the fruits of my heart labor and that the money in my pocket and just handing it over to you handsome amounts to take pic nude pictures of yourself in nature and some sort of exploiting you sexually but I’m also empowering you financially and so and you’ve done some webcamming so how about you take over just tell us about wet what’s X work with looks like from your paradigm you know one Brad like I kind of like have like a load for you know these patriarchal white supremacist capitalist system as Bell hooks so I can call it but in the same breath you know when there’s been times where I like I had to happen so that survival instincts and I had like one guy asked me one time he was like am I the victim or the victimizer and the truth is we’re but you know like I think you have to have a certain amount of street-smart to to be able to like use what naturally you have to like to take it to the next level or to financially take care of yourself and support yourself but you know sex work is the oldest work in the world and is not going anywhere and there have been times where like white douchey man have all we like helps me like maybe pay for like tuition for college shirt and this and that and that and it was very much it felt like a mutual exchange it’s really hard to talk about monetizing or like what your body is worth but I would just always encourage women who are like in this in this fail to like don’t load don’t lie sell yourself you know like take care make sure you’re making enough to take care of yourself first and foremost I think when that’s feeling of like it being a mutual exchange starts to like kind of waiver then that’s when we start talking about like maybe this is more of self harm than it is actual good and that’s up to each person’s own discernment like what feels Mutual for you like how how do you value yourself and then there’s been times when I was camping and people would be like they say the meanest things and get tell me I was charging too much and doing this and doing that and I can be a lot on your self-esteem but I just encourage you to stick to your guns because those people naturally weed themselves out for sure for sure well I’m I’m feeling that I’m feeling that very deeply and you know if I have one sort of claim to I guess my is there’s a there’s a lot of white guilt kind of Shadow behavior in the activists Progressive funeral ft world and green left it kind of world and you know I’ve I guess a lot of people who have that white guilt have strategies of ways to try to minimize the amount of privilege that they have on paper so they’ll you know come up with ways that they are also oppressed and you know I will also be enough for me and I feel like there is some it’s a struggle and it is it’s a real thing and I feel like it’s a it’s an appropriate internal battle to have about like what is my role on this continent what is my role in this hemisphere you know what the going to be in service or am I going to be a parasite on you know all of the indigenous people in the land and I’m trying you don’t go into that struggle and I would say that you know the one thing that that is legitimate about my sort of being able to claim that I have some impressions of my own is that I have that background is like a street-walking sex worker as a minor you know an inn that I had said to be able to so you know I’ve seen some horrific things in Android some things and that doesn’t make me on the level with a lot of other people by any means but we can at least talk about that from a you know from a I can talk about that from a place of humility in place of having been there and Having learned Street smarts in until I understand like exactly you’re talking about is it you know there is well how would you how would you feel about this argument the sort of sick Pro sex work feminist argument that you know what to put it put it briefly as just that well you know if the feminist who are saying that you’re selling out the feminist movement by serving the crude sexual desires of these men do you know I don’t deserve it and and what not there I see. I see the validity in those points but then the counter argument that I I really like is the one where where women who are sex workers have in each type c see things in a feminist Missy will look at what you’re doing with your body like you’re doing something that could probably get you killed or get you injured you working at a factory that’s prostitution to I’m just being sexy and feeling good in my body and yeah I got to do with some Trolls but you know hey at least I’m doing something very sustainable which is making myself you know as long as I’m hydrated I can just squirt all day and make more money yeah go for something interesting to you were talking about like like from a place of like privilege like what is your role in this world and like honestly like I I feel so blessed in my life that I often times Bill even as a woman of color when I look at like the the global Community as a whole like I am in a place of privilege right and so when we talked about like the larger like our larger Community is it our goals to like if you’re in a place of privilege to kind of full other people up with you like a thank you note capitalism kind of has a backwards cuz it’s like oh like the people at the top will give the poor people stuff right but like what if we like all like collectively were like just like uplifting and like helping each other so yeah I had to deal with some Trolls but ultimately it was what privilege we’re giving me the money and they’re for helping me like with myself up right and now I’m in this position where I can do the same thing for other people even though it’s not in the span of sex work anymore you know random thought sorry please preach on I’m riveted in in a very yeah it’s like this is a really really important kind of thumb conversation that probably you don’t hear to have to just sit a regular Starbucks you know thank you for space so how about telling us more about just your connection to Nature your other other aspects of your character and personality that you’re developing and and then really what you what you were if you were a theoretically to receive a lot of financial tributes and tips and donations ultimately through the the project that we’re going to both to get to talkin about in a little bit but I want to definitely just give you time to talk more about the depth of your character and really what your passions are and what what you’re doing with the means that you have and what you would do if you had a sudden influx of really like serious abundance to to take things all to the next level and so we can kind of go on a journey with you and an imaginary thank you thank you for asking so where I feel most and called to be in service to you as I’m I’m bringing yoga to underserved communities I think it’s really interesting that you know we look at the book The Western version of like yoga culture that is supposed to be rooted in like thieves like carbonetic acts of service but often times like it’s just missed the most are the community sit actually are need of these holistic resources the most and I think you know as a woman of color I feel maybe I feel more confident walking into the projects are the ghettos or the hoods and just setting up my yoga mat and doing my thing and seeing who you like stops and talks to me along the way so if I had like an influx of abundance which I will I’m going to call that in right now I would probably invest and buying more yoga mats and yoga props so I can have like my little van and just go around the different projects and get us and hoods and do pop-up yoga and not charge people money for it yeah it’s something that I it’s really interesting to me like how in America we even found the way it’s like monetize off of it like a like a like a yoga practice like me but is this and I understand people have to pay their bills but I feel like for me even with like the bookstore that I work at and I’m a worker owner at is I don’t make the most money but it’s from such a deep place of service I feel like I’m the richest person in the world and I think that mentality that mentality of the abundance has really served me on my journey so if I had an influx of abundant that’s what I would do with it I would invest and my props and maybe buy a van and deck it out hippie style and just drive around to these communities and show love and show gratitude for them and it’s just that interesting to me about the communities that are in need of like the holistic resources the most are often times the ones that have the most like limited access to it and I find that deeply troubling in the starving and I want to be a part of the solution and as a woman of color who feels like they’re in the space of privilege at times I feel like I honestly would be doing a disservice to my soul and this lifetime if I did not take this role on and if I did not take it seriously well I’m giggling and tearing up right now because it’s I just love it so much and can actually I could have this thought came into my mind is this phrase that I hope you will take it and run with it if it if it drives with you because I’ve never heard it before and I don’t know if it’s you know I’m afraid to Google it cuz it’s probably already a huge movement it’s already got books and websites everything but I have never heard these two words together but in this conversation it’s like this is this is what I hope you will claim and an impacted rhysand is the words gorilla yoga or cruelly yogini it sounds like with that van is going to be all about and I know I’ve been a Guerilla Gardener and a gorilla media activist and everybody uses that word kind of tosses it around for different things and guerrilla marketing that’s a book you know it’s a whole the whole I don’t know if I called a movement but it it probably isn’t movement within marketing and I in the book is is a guerrilla tactics is just that the underdog if people aren’t familiar it’s it’s really just the archetype of people who are even America would be considered to be based on guerrilla warfare tactics because they weren’t fighting you know in marching lines and drumming and you know giving away their position they were sniping from the trees and you know we have a proud history anyone who you know worships the flag if that’s your thing you got to be paying homage to Guerrilla tactics so I love what you’re talking about and people do flash Bob yoga stuff like that so you know that if I feel like that’s going to be at least the title of this episode is now going to be gorilla yoga with survival women Jasmine and both of us kind of have like a glove for cryptocurrencies and one of the ideas that have came to my mind is decentralized Yoga right like so you don’t need a studio like you don’t like you don’t need a bank for cryptocurrency beer and yoga studio are you going to go see her right so like yeah I like this I like this movement feel like decentralized most things awesome well okay well I’m getting chills and this is just getting better and better so I will say that yeah if if you don’t mind I’d like to spend a few minutes just kind of bringing you can have to speed Indian people who are listening or going to get the the sort of real-time one of the first now actually kind of relieved through looks into what the what the survival woman project is is now really shaping up to be how the mechanics of it are looking like they’re going to work out and because you were proposition by me you know now it’s been a few months you know have just been kind of dabbling and whether or not I wanted to move forward with this and knowing that it was sort of a a my my Dharma the the focus I want it take to move forward with this is how the survival women modeling project that I feel qualified you know and hello sir. I think we first broke up relationship I’ve ever been we’re going to have a makeup conversation now and cool but yeah so so back to the survival admin thing I would like to just kind of give you the full informed consent overview in and we can get in this moment actually just share thoughts and you can really it’s it’s going to evolve to wear well I’ll just I’ll just take a little take one breast and and try to lay it out as succinctly as if in an elevator doing an elevator picture what is sometimes called stuck in elevator pitch cuz I attempted to go on with these things but I am not going to name names here but they’re there are other modeling Enterprises out there that that I think have done a great job to bring forward the the alt modeling mystique and aesthetic and I and II praise and honour all of the all of the other entrepreneurs in his face and so I’m not going to say that I’m trying to do something better be be if you know anybody down but I will say that I believe the evolution of using Electronic media to to sell and to profit from women’s bodies that it can be done in a way that is a triple bottom line benefit Corporation when when when you know all of that good sort of thumb social impact kind of thinking and and an engineering that from a technical perspective using cryptocurrency what what I’m currently literally in the middle of developing with teams of developers all over the world I’m kind of shopping around bidding projects for different development and design aspects of this but what it comes down to is that I feel that there’s there’s well-established an existing models now for you know for sure there’s something called giveth. IO which is the aetherium Smart contract based way for people to do crowd Source funding to support charitable type of works and projects all over the world for people who are unbanked and who would be marginalized and probably choked out the nonprofit sector and it’s formal sense and so really anybody with the mission and a purpose and a plan can start to connect with these platforms now that cryptocurrency based and get attention and in crowdfunding and they don’t have to do the sketchy Ico SEC kind of taunting route of the lot of people getting in trouble for it just kind of like no deliverables no investing into a future of earnings of a company or any of those those tricky legal traps but you straight up taping people and I think that the the gift economy is really proving itself out and in the Tipping economy is and you would know that an old people and a sex work in history who know people just hit and run you with hundreds of dollars are thousands of dollars as tribute for nothing like they don’t even ask you to do anything or say anything or wear anything or send them your underwear or nothing they just go away I like I like your Vibe I like your style here it is I got to run to work but like take some money in in the crypto world at the the scope of that type of tipping and gifting is is is just astronomical so I’m out there trying to wire together this website framework to create an opportunity for establish models in the high-end you know La modeling industry because they are actually very very accessible very easy and fun to work with very professional mostly and and very open-minded and I’m having great success and and luck and Fortune working with very established model some of them having tens if not hundreds of thousands of followers and social media and all it’s going to take to light this Wildfire match to bring up all of the women of the world I believe you are willing to step into this platform you know the balance that I’m trying to strike here is that if the established models of the world get on board with this platform has some of them already have enthusiastically I might add in for you know very good rates like I’m I’m paying well and and and I’m paying more than the industry standard for very established people and they also gives you know that if if all it takes is for any of them to proudly display their association with his project and that will create what I believe to be an influx of interest and enthusiasm that will very rapidly trickle-down to those people in need women around the world who have a smartphone internet connection but maybe no money and no bank and no way to comply with them whatever the other web platforms are required in a required to do so there’s already a yeah there’s already yogini in Mexico who is going to do her introduction video for this project in Spanish with subtitles and yes I feel like the the the there are other people in crypto who are pushing the limits of sexy and sex work and spankchain is is part of that you know paradigm-shifting crypto camming kind of platform building Frontier that that that New Horizon of the technological shift and and everybody goes if the Arium Geeks man there so there such sweethearts and there’s some of the most endearing men that I have seen you know at least online some of them I’ll be meeting more closely soon but I really feel like that that the 1% that that the Occupy Movement was fighting there’s a new 1% and they’re all crypto anarchists and lot of them are there Libertarians in there Circle calculus which made me cringe for a while but now I see that they need us as much as we need them and some of them are into Ayahuasca and some of them are you know into burning man and stuff like that so I really feel like you know the the frustrated desire of all of these dudes jerking off to porn and not having an authentic and legitimate connection to the women that they were pleasuring themselves to if we give them the opportunity to tip and to support and to connect with whether it’s from camming to what I believe with the survival in Project is going to be mostly G-rated family-friendly stuff works like you know let your imagination do the work like these women are not always going to be you no teasing you teasing your cock you know so I get over it but we’re bored concerned with is that we have we build a brand that is not going to be limited by XXX you know flagging online and not going to have all that just over the top stuff I’ve been there a day that is very tedious and very kind of nerve-wracking to try to have to be compliant with all that stuff so you know what that said my my proposal really now to you and you were one of the first ones again to kind of reinvigorate me on this is that you know I would love to see a transfer of power once I can bootstrap this with my own money that I make literally working in Beverly Hills in Malibu you know working on landscapes for rich clients and take taking that money in living frugally and taking the percentage of that money and put it into hiring models to get us up the ground what it will eventually lead to is a situation where through the blockchain technology the models themselves will be will be facilitating the flow of of capital through this through the platform and then to know the trip like you said ringing other people up and raising other people up to the collective collectivization of well if you know in power and privilege it’s it’s really going to get to a point where I step away almost like Satoshi and say here is the brain work and it’s like you all it’s you it’s you you’re all stitute to run with and to you so you know that’s how I protect myself from being seduced by power and being too you know having a Founder complex and stuff is that you can build a platform and you can with crypto and blockchain walk away from it and let the users really control the destiny of it as a decentralized application and it’s going to start off with a bit of centralization to to get it you know it’s it’s hatching and its wings and out of the nest and so did Bitcoin so did everything else that there is a crucial. Where you have to take on a little bit extra responsibility but but yeah you are definitely one of the you know the keys to the queendom I’m going to just like Hannah be handing them over and and that’s that’s that’s my verbal kind of Mile High verbal white paper kind of reviews how do you get if you can now take over from from where I just left off with that and let me know how you feel about that and and yeah it will we will be creating a lot of fun stuff together and in the process moving forward came to mind as he were speaking for me on for synchronicity I’ve always kind of considered myself to be really intuitive and I remember when I first started learning about cryptocurrencies I wasn’t quite sure like how it would look but I knew that this would be something that would really like set me up for the rest of my life and you know when I first start listening to your podcast and became your friend I never in a million years would think like these two things would like I’ve realized in a way that they are like overlapping so it just feels like and maybe other people can relate to this is. Like even like the sketchy times in your life like they all are like preparing you for like the next step in your journey and that really resonates with me because quite honestly like I haven’t I haven’t done camming in like 2 or 3 years and a lot of things that I share on my social media is just mean literally showing my authentic self and being myself and it’s really interesting like the people here are like kind of gravitate towards me when I am my most authentic self and so I think this is a great opportunity for other women like me who who have followings or you know or are present in in a public way to really use their their voices and there are four Mama Gaia for a bigger purpose you know especially when we talk about ecosexuality being such a hot word right now everybody wants to be in the woods hunting yeah I just think this is like it’s a beautiful ways to combine things that are really dear to my heart and dear to your heart and you need to take care of ourselves with it and sustain ourselves with that and I think everybody is deserving of this like everybody should be able to sustain yourself with what they actually care about versus what they’re supposed to be doing but I think this is a really powerful project band and I’m honored to be working on this with you well well thank you so much it means it means so much to hear you say that and yeah from the from the deepest place in my heart you know I F I wish there was a way to and I think blockchain will ultimately facilitate this where it’s like you know whatever I feel like my misdeeds have been in my mistakes and ways that I’ve wrong people and there’s no there’s definitely I I do not want to be the single point of failure for something and I feel like is it as big as in powerful and as important as everything that you have shared in this conversation which you know I don’t not trying to put myself throw myself to the Wolves as just being the privileged white boy and what not but I will say that you know whatever whatever we’re agreeing on as being truth about the the duty to step up and and B are true authentic sexual cells and serve nature and help to dismantle patriarchy and and all these things you know I guess I’ve said to people before that in this lifetime I can honestly say that you know I have been abused and tortured and molested and raped and oppressed and incarcerated and in a lot of the ways that that women have and I won’t say women of color but I will say that bike in this life I didn’t have the ball games and barbecues that a lot of men take for granted and I didn’t have a lot of the same so I am a I am a gender traitor I don’t consider myself in transition in the enemy way of you know that I and I don’t I don’t have them not no value judgments on that whatsoever but I will say that I really I really do want to have the power Dynamic and the the what are they call it the the the shift of the financial power the the sort of yeah this this Tipping Point of men acknowledging their weaknesses and also being genuine about their help a Cherokee has wounded them and also handing the keys to the kingdom over and letting the women lead and and to some extent where appropriate collectively govern and that let there be a safe form of financial and sexual matriarchy that is going to be necessary for men to kind of ketchup and he’ll Andre wire and really earn public like we we failed with political dominance in sexual dominance sake that there’s no question about that so we need to go in time out and if there’s you no mercy for us as our Doms might you know Grant this effort time to time then we will be given a chance to to rise to the occasion but they’re really does need to be a male ego surrendering and so you know I just want to know put that out there so when haters and people that want to attack me and tell me I’m not qualified as I just want to be like hey look I’m just the messenger you know you can shoot me if you want I got to do it right somebody has to do the work so I think you are amazing for stepping up to the plate and doing the word yeah and you know I think that’s an honest conversation that people need to have Bell hooks off Austin says you know women and men have both been wounded by patriarchy and and as I was walking would like to say time for Democratic womanism hand over the key right on well we definitely touching a lot of synchronicity here and I will say that my I’m trying I will be speaking lesson listening more and there will be more of me just having a sweet smile at being a security guard and a sort of technical sort of them just backing and supporting yeah wait for for women’s voices to be heard and and the Beautiful projects that you are working on to be to be seen and adored and and also break down a lot of that pretty privilege stuff I would love for Elder I mean there will be as many types of diverse body types and facial structures and makeup no makeup hair no hair whatever it’s all really the depth of and I I I believe that we are able to see Beauty Beyond the beauty myth in and we just need to be exposed to a more mmmm the radiance of women in their Crone years and women who are BBW all that stuff is all what we what we yearn for is that diversity and at texture of life in every different body type and every different appropriate age and all that good stuff so yeah let’s sew with all that. Yeah you we really did me a huge favor to like bear with me to 2 to hear all this and I wanted to bow down and bail out a bit and say please do meet us out of this of this podcast with perhaps you know what whatever is on your mind whatever you feel like I’m sharing from from your heart and then if you’d be so kind as to kind of clothes with you with your meditative black girl affirming prayer magic and the podcast women that’s like tactics the kindest rough like they’re their heteronormative monogamous relationships as a distraction I used to work Primal several times to reference like a emotions like jealousy but instead of using the word Prime alumni replace that with the word ego-driven because I think it’s really important to acknowledge because I actually I think being Primal very healthy and a lot of ways and it’s something that we should be more into tapping into you that I’m going to use the word ego and not Primal and I don’t think I could like walk away this without saying bye House of the firming I spell black BLK because I think that the way black is spell and like our culture black kind of like is this unspoken connotation as if black is lacking something but actually black is desorption of all colors that I like Blk and then girl is g i r l a n d white girlfriend name and yeah it’s already been I’m going to invite you to find a comfortable seat once again and to just really begin to focus on those shorter in Hell’s and those longer X house grounding here to this moment with gratitude and love and gratitude for the internet to help us create community that we wouldn’t have if it if it was not for so thank you Ben thank you so much yes we will be in touch very soon and everybody stand by for the forthcoming launch of the survival woman.com spelled w o y let me write that down and I will start it over again it will be it will be one second and today is July 8th today is July 12th and my goal is to have a beta testing version of the website survival woman.com up in the next few weeks and that’s Survival spell normally and women spelled w o m b y a.com so survival and that will be up soon and you will be featured as one of the first and yeah one of the first models on that website and we will have some very fun content going and we will also be yeah eventually hey I think was probably going to happen is that the survival woman will have its own podcast and maybe you will be one of hopefully many hostesses to bring that like I would love to just put your facilitate that that part of the platform as well so I sent it to think about half your debt if you want to be in that kind of role as well so yeah alright well then let’s call it a podcast and we’ll be in touch very soon thank you so much again Jasmine and yeah have a wonderful rest of your gorilla yogini afternoon what’s a good day. 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Race, Gender, and Tantra Makeovers with Kamali Minter TPP74


Kamali Minter pic In this episode I was joined by fellow tantra instructor Kamali Minter and had the profound honor and privilege of co-creating a verbal vision board for a harmonious tantric future. It was a blessing to have her share wisdom and offer guidance that can help humanity peacefully and lovingly integrate and overcome the shadows of race and gender politics. We also discuss what personal, cultural, and ecological “tantra makeovers” might look like as divine feminine consciousness continually expands internally and externally.

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About Kamali:
Kamali’s passionate about transformation through art, movement, breath, and sound. She fuses her knowledge of Tantra, Taoism, Yoga, Relationship and filmmaking, to create opportunities for us to experience the Love that we are. She is a trained Tantra teacher and Reiki Master, and has been certified through Tao-Tantric Arts and Embody Tantra. She did her 200 YTT with Shivakali Yoga. And is learning more classical lineage practice from Nita Rubio. Other influences include Alison Armstrong, Marianne Williamson, Kathleen Dayvolt, and many more. Her approach to healing is about making ancient wisdom relevant to our modern lives by guiding practices that have been used for thousands of years to reach enlightened states, in ways that are accessible and fun.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello their beloveds welcome to Township Funk podcast episode number 74 I’m here again with Kamali Minter we had a podcast recording that we did recently and for some reason the goddess squashed by voice and her voice was loud and clear and I tried to salvage it but then just realized that things are usually easier the second time and there’s probably a reason to shift the the context a bit so too kind of preface where we’re coming from we were talking about a tantra makeover of ourselves of our communities and if the future of life on Earth and really turning into race and gender issues and how we can all work together to build a beautiful future using this technology and we were kind of getting into the indicting a lot of the transgressions of patriarchal behavior in misogynistic behavior in the institutionalized racism in after talking again about how we could maybe even transcend that conversation which was super potent would be too kind of set up a dialogue where it’s the future already and we’re kind of looking back on how we overcame a lot of those hindrances to the True Glory that we all want to experience so thank you for bearing with that that long breakfast and come only if you would be so kind to again introduce yourself and tell us the beautiful story of your path of Tantra and then we can go from there sure be my pleasure thank you for having me back and I think it’s actually was thinking of you were talking how Tantra cat was that original conversation that destroyed and yeah I am currently teaching Tantra love and intimacy coaching and it’s kind of the last thing that I ever saw coming in my path I stumbled across Tantra probably over about 10 years ago now when I have been doing a lot of training to heal from some wounding you know around relationships particular relationships with men is healing my relationship with my father after my parents divorce and healing from his infidelity and things that it happened around that and I was in a relationship and I was very much in love with and we were best friends but we just had completely different approaches to sex and that part wasn’t working at all I’ve been doing a lot of reading and speaking and searching about relationship and love and marriage and connection and socks and then of course in that search Tantra pops onto my Horizon and it was the first time that the idea that spirituality and sexuality weren’t separate things had been introduced to me and being a person who’d been kind of a spiritual Seeker into meditation and all kinds of other spiritual modalities for a good part of my life this was the first time that I entertained or even imagined that there could be a connection between my spirituality in my sexuality so I was kind of hooked from that initial and as I started to explore my with my first teacher Charlie Morgan and more of the Neo Tantra World initially the pool was about like how do I have better sex with my guy how do I have you no more Connection in the end in get this sort of fulfillment or satisfaction out of intimacy and out of my sex life that I was not experiencing but it ended up becoming the medicine Tantra itself became the medicine I didn’t know that I needed to actually thought the blocks around my heart that were keeping me from intimacy with everything in life prior to Tantra I thought it was a pretty open person I was race social I knew how to be with people consider myself very loving and generous but I would simultaneously walked around with this leg tightness or constriction in my body a lot of fear and Mild anxiety and all these different ways that I went about service protecting and putting on a mask or different faces to interact with people so I I did not even really realize that I was not showing up as my authentic self in my own life and that I was not allowing life to really touch me for fear of it hurting and that was showing up in my personal relationships but they’re showing up in different ways everywhere and Tantra was the path that actually started to mirror this back to me as it broke me open to a whole nother way of existing so through my own practice I have developed this deep love affair and appreciation for what Tantra actually is and it is so much more than what it was introduced me as initially in terms of the its connection to sexuality over time I’ve come to find discover and start to practice more classical Tantra and get more in to sadhna and Mantra and yantras and goddess work and it’s become the biggest source of my personal empowerment and for breaking me open both energetically but also emotionally and learning how to Source my power from a very natural connected place and add to a place where it was time for me to start sharing what I had learned what I didn’t know was part of the past is that at some point you have to share what you’ve been given when that came up you know this little boy sounds like it’s time to teach and I was like no but the teaching path is really just become another way of continuing to grow and deepen our on this spiritual journey so yeah awesome do you want to say a few words about some of the peak experiences of being opened up and what the circumstances were if they’re not well to graphic although anything goes on this podcast some of the pieces like before I even got into working with my Sexual Energy in new ways some of the first stages and it’s the way that I teach now is was really about the melting or the song out of places where I was holding onto a lot of tension both physically and emotionally so just learning things about how to touch and be touched tenderly learning things about how to allow my breath to make love to me actually started to tenderize me in a way I didn’t even know I needed to be tenderize I was I really prided myself on being like this independent woman who he no like I wasn’t as tough as the boys you know and other way I did that mostly was to have a pretty hard shell around me and in a lot of ways and so as I thought out and started to learn about the power in my Yoni the power in my vagina and how to start to tap into that power and let it move through me I didn’t have to find my protection through that hardening anymore like I could soften in my body are there that was interacting with a person or making or having a making love with my partner I could soften and let someone in and know that there was another kind of power that was going to keep me safe Anna wow I like to definitely Shakti rules of the universe cuz that’s awesome and then do you want to talk about exactly what you’re offering sorry when we can give the web links again at at the end but I’m just curious how you’ve woven your journey into certain teachings that are unique to your gifts bring there something better rise kind of like an artist they get inspired by whatever I’m learning I’m or have learned and what I’m hearing or listening to around me and you know people in My Tribe and out there in the world than like oh we need some of this medicine right now so but mostly I am I tried to offer classes is there class series periodically which is like the most affordable way for me to work with people and then I also do one on one coaching privately and I’m working on I had done for two years I taught a two-day weekend immersion for charu for embody Tantra and that was great time considering bringing my own version of that back next year and working on some stuff some online courses as well right now but mostly when I’m finding myself being drawn to are working in a couple of different areas and that is specifically I love working with women and empowering women around their their sexuality and her sensuality so a lot of my private clients are actually women looking to connect with her sexuality more or to be empowered by it and some kind of way to heal from past traumas just to be able to love their bodies you know or even that just have an orgasm or some kind of experience pleasure in sex so I do a lot of that work with lemon with a really love just I love watching women learn about like what their vagina is and all the things what does beyond the Practical things are taught in Biology class and then I do some work with couples and then my my class series I recently started trying to bring the element of nature into my work I’ve been finding myself really really drawn which is what the things we’ve talked about with the permaculture but I find myself really drawn to how Tantra adjust wakes us up to our interconnectivity with all things including nature and it really is the original source that we all come from it is our mother he knows shakthi is nature and and as I’ve fallen in love and deeper with mama and the goddess and Shakti it’s only it’s come hand-in-hand with nature and so I’ve been leaving the elements and some nature appreciation and working with emotions in to my class work recently so that’s so cool yeah I have to say that I am working on it a similar parallel kind of path of ecosexuality and holistic permaculture kind of in Hawaii there’s a lot of very integrated communities that I’ve heard about it I’ve talked to some of the people where it’s just very intrinsic the way that the herbalism in soundtrack sacred sexuality training and and gardening they all are just sort of happening and it’s kind of an Ambien so I kind of feel like it’s kind of already deeper in the future than a lot of places where it’s really disintegrated in the another places that don’t have that that climate I guess there’s no excuse cuz if you can grow tropical fruit in in very cold and and high-tech Simon says well so before I get into a permaculture geek mode I’m really glad you’re working in that down that Dimension because I was just talking with one of my kind of dear colleagues in this work and been in just jokingly using the phrase as kind of a headline unkink your Kundalini with 50 Shades of Green it was kind of what we were experiencing and what we were collaborating to create is sort of opportunities and in a media that kind of demonstrate that just a breeze is orgasmic and it will take you there you know if you’re if you’re in nature you’re going to have all of this support to have the Shakti flow and you know all of the dilation of the whole astral body in the purification and just so much more conducive to all these practices in and then when you have that experience you can kind of question okay no wonder people get bored in the square box rectilinear architecture apartments and things in an 8-bit get so bored and so tired of just fucking that they’re like can you you know choke me half to death so I can have a new set Jason and I don’t want to put anybody down for that but I I wonder if we could if this if the the Kink BDSM World War II have like a collaborative ecosexuality timeshare conference with permaculture where we would all end up we probably end up throwing our own rope material and doing blindfolds and also just maybe actually transcending some of the childhood wounding that is responsible for being sort of tied in a knot of energy you know so that was a little bit so close to me right now well okay I guess the question is if now we can probably get into the fun stuff which is really talking about designing these time Trek theme parks of the future where adult children of all kinds of trauma can start to unkink after Kundalini in slow so I guess a lot of visions of how to make these things roll out into reality and I’m curious where you know now we please talk about race gender nature and classical Tantra and all the things that you were sort of daydreaming about that you could get support for taking everyone outside and there’s a lot there in terms of how much of what is really ailing us as modern humans particularly modern westerners has to do with the way that we live day-to-day so separate from separate from nature and also separate from ourselves you know who are a part of nature so I really I find you know like my most General passion is about connection and so for me being a black woman. Then translates into some very specific areas which is you know I’ve been developing a passion for how this workout Entre which really is amazing spiritual system for connection for that purpose how to use it in some of these faces that we’re seeing extreme disconnection making itself known in today’s world and this is a no disconnection separation that’s been there all along but it’s really loud right now because I feel like the world’s going through some deep trance relational stuff at this moment and it’s open to healing in a way you know it’s like a Gateway for healing is happening right now that hasn’t been open for quite some time you know so I’ve been fantasizing about like how how to work with you know some of the wounding that we’re seeing come to the surface the bias around social injustice Injustice is connected to raise primarily what I see as a fundamental issue of beauty of lack of understanding and compassion so it’s like everyone stuck inside of their own experience you know and that experience is also riddled with their own biases and limitations about the way they’re seeing and experiencing the world based on how they were shaped as children you know and how do we begin to crack those walls so that different things can be seen and different things can be heard that are that are outside of the realm of what you’ve previously experienced and Tantra magnificent for this because it’s it’s all about this expanding beyond the limit itself and it does it in ways that are so like bypasses the the conscious mind you know which can be very analytical and slippery and hard to pin down because it’s always looking for a disagreement Tantra melts you know through really a lot of it true recently have been experiencing the power of Mantra work you know and just that Mantra and it’s so you know sound healing is working with the very root pieces of creation you know God said let there be light those were the first two things that made everything lightning sounds he knows what it all is and so by working with light and sound you’re working with the tools that go right to the root of where everything got put into place inside of somebody you know and so I’ve experienced in my own life just the power of Mantra to transform and you don’t see it coming Genting is being 108 x great-great-great my tongue is tired and the next thing you know I’ve been doing this for 7 Days 11 days whatever and my heart’s a little lighter or this trigger I used to have all the time around you know white people looking at me a certain way doesn’t exist anymore you know there’s there’s just an interesting way to begin to experience Mantra getting under the hood of the really dissolving you know what we call the samskaras like those grooves of Habitual behavior and thinking that are keeping her locked so I’ve been thinking about how we how we use that how do I get people to fall in love with Mantra work and because there’s a mission yeah commission artists and musicians to put beats to it and you know they’ll be singing along and no time and I think that is a great way music music people can relate to is like easiest way to get are you are you aware of any artists in that I mean there’s a there’s so many different genres of music that are that are working with all kinds of chanting and mantras I’ve heard I’m not sure though if we know what you’ve encountered and if you have any suggestions or if you might want suggestions and I would just so I can just imagine you advising a new generation of artists and musicians with your your skill-set with the mantras in this bid chocolate Entre path and all that good stuff power of this kind of work to transform hip-hop you know in the sense that as a music form itself is pretty benign it started off as quite an innocent art form and its roots a lot of hip hop is very fun and you know playful and then we went to the pool. In the 90s where I got very misogynistic and materialistic and it’s kind of gotten mired and in those pieces you know and I do I’ve seen it a couple of Festival of some of the transformational festivals a handful of artists doing like hip hop and reggae some more contemporary launcher based music I can’t remember are any of their names of the top of my head I don’t have them in my playlist per se but I know they’re out there and it’s still all that stuff still kind of on the fringes you know I haven’t heard of anything penetrating mainstream yet per se the are you familiar with the four 48 equals 440 vs 8 equals 432 kind of controversy anything so high that that is affected me deeply and radically shifted all of the music that I have made his musician over the last few years have been kind of gotten into that and I’m wondering if I mean that’s just something to kind of put in the on this little this sort of verbal vision board of even if it’s not exact mantras being repeated as a specific number of times just tuning the root note of a track to the ohm frequency you know 136.1 and its sexy sharp in 432 creates that feeling of peace and shedding and opening up and it’s very like you said kind of bypasses the story of what’s happening and it just is yeah yeah yeah I know that stuff is really powerful light beginning to deal with sound healing and frequency and all of those pieces for sure I wish I made music I don’t I do like my tools of art tend to be film and visuals and spoken word and writing and that kind of thing but yeah I have actually experienced I’m a big fan of people who are doing that kind of sound healing work definitely do you have any any until you know that set the intention to the right people will come at the right time to back you up and make beats for you and do whatever it takes you know bring up my Layton Layton musician yeah definitely no big story so cool so yeah that the whole Sonic Dimension the mantras I think it’s a really good opening up of of just imagination for how to proactively address things that it seemed very stuck you know I feel like a if more rallies and protests were were using utilizing this technology they be more effective to trans yeah they would be you would be mellowing out the cops you know I’ve seen footage of the WTO protests where people were pounding drums in and there was a cut to one of the riot cops tapping her foot to the beat like they’re not supposed to do you know you know if I can send all of the Direct Energy and who are the people I enjoy working within the groups I want to help and those kinds of things and I’ve really been looking at people working in social justice in different ways you know because of all the anger and pain that is just prevalent in that work and you know we all can cognitively know love is the most powerful force to move with and and when you’re on the front lines all the time it can be really really hard to stay in that space in the space of fierce love like in love does not have to look soft but still just being able to stay connected to self and to the forces that are greater calling in nose like that Chucky Spirit you know that Sheba energy into the work that’s being done so that people aren’t doing it from their own you know will and burning themselves out another group of people that I’d love to do something with four sound right on so do you have yeah I had a I had a good conversation with Devi Ward on the podcast a while back kind of about people’s a people’s Tantra similar you know visioning of temples really where it’s more like a public Clinic where this the Sexual Healing Arts and services can be rendered to low-income people who perhaps help in the gardens and do some time Banking and things like that to really democratize access to these these ancient technologies that used to actually be more of a lower class female-centered matriarchal subversive transgressive underground really yeah you know it’s it’s really interesting the whole I’m cuz Tantra by Nature has always been secretive and for good reason and some way from what I’ve turn from a lot of my teachers you know and it’s because it’s like Tantra has steps away from all of the morality and fear base pieces that you find in a lot of other spiritual Traditions right and those moral pieces and the fear pieces or how people how they control people like how you keep people in check in keep them from doing things that they shouldn’t do and you know these different pieces and because it is so about the embracing all of it the dark and the light that there’s a place for everything at the table and and there are aspects of Tantra that do work with some very powerful and potentially dangerous energies you know to the physical plane that the secrecy is important in initiating people is important on some level because there are layers of the work that is accessed by the wrong level of Consciousness can be used in horrible, you know and and also I find that there’s a there’s a preparation process that has to be gone through by each individual Consciousness like a person has to be at the have to have a Readiness in their psyche to encounter certain layers of the past cuz you’re literally beginning to access the Loom or the larger the Consciousness you’re accessing the more energy you’re accessing the more that’s just going to expand and any you know ailments or issues that are happening in your system so there’s a really is that need for the purification before you get into the amplification that was very very well said yeah and I just had this number I was just having this conversation recently literally about tactical tantric revolutionary strategy and how to temper this Paradox of the extreme potential for like super power or is it could be used to save the planet and then the Peril of like you said that it’s just high pressure high voltage energy and in information that can be overwhelming and debilitating or cause premature Kundalini activation that can even snap your neck and paralyze you mean there is real physical and emotional psychological dangerous so and the trees are being cut down much slower so at some point we’ve got to take a risk we got to say all right the secret mantras have to be liberated to the chosen ones who have done a number of hours in a time bank and they’re the process of degrading people with nature as as a fast track to purification of funeral getting off porn let’s say getting out of whatever devices are attached to and and getting into the Dow in the pace of Nature and then she’ll do the heavy lifting or the Deep you know cleansing it just all of this is such an interesting deep study that resistance in struggle and in Tantra and all the stuff so and then so to give it back to you please yeah maybe talk about or respond however you feel and and and maybe talk a little bit about or as much as you want about what the Perils of navigating male sexual abuse in an ego power it within Tantra and how I made sure I got to Tantra Neo Temple sort of Paradigm could be defended and protected and secured and the Amazon Women know the future Township temples like kicking ass in frustration so all right but it’s not devious in being a servile parasite it’s like being a boy a man and then burning your godhead from the goddess Uno ocean really I feel you the pieces I started thing is I call you know maybe it’s like 12 step program where you have but really there’s something to that even when we get into looking at the sexuality aspect of Tantra and particularly the relationship between men and women and the role of goddess and and all those pieces because I feel like they’re there is particular in the west lot of people that come to Tantra through the sexual Avenue looking for some kind of sexual healing or sexual Adventure you know anything about it can absolutely provide those pieces but they’re there to really touch the potency of what’s available there is automatically this kind of purification of stuff that has to happen for you to get what is possible out of those practices out of the sexual practices because if you approach them from The Limited cell for The Limited mine you’ll miss it all together and I will be just another physical act that you’re going through the motions of like an empty ritual so Waze one of the things I think is definitely been so beneficial for me as a woman and countering Tundra is that it really is the only spiritual path that that elevated woman to to not even just on par with man but to this status of being able to bestow that spiritual Evolution or to bestow initiation or Enlightenment onto man and onto the rest of the world and this idea that all of creation itself is the the realm eshakti it’s the realm of goddess and so this is her world we’re playing in you know and it’s not that she was not present here it’s not that you know that masculine energy that aspect of Consciousness is very much always a part of of Socrates play like they can’t exist without each other and I think it’s some of its is an interesting thing with the with the gender peace and Tantra because on the one hand I think it’s incredibly empowering for women to get what the true source of their power is and who they really are by having a female body like what that really means and I think every woman should have that blessing of coming to know that and then there’s a layer of it where we have to be careful about using that to make ourselves better than or above our brothers you know cuz I have seen women appropriate the goddess Kali you know for the Wrath and and use it as ways of justifying cutting men down you know and and that’s where we get into this weird play of like at the end yes we all have our divine and we’re also human and so we have egos that can sometimes get in the way of all that Divinity very very careful about how we use our power and who were giving our power to and we should never Tantra I think part of the contract philosophy is that you should never hinder someone else’s choice or power like that is sacrilege goddess and plain enough stepping into Shakti herself if you’re ever if I ever used to to take away someone else’s power then it was used and those are the things that we can have to look out for when I see happening a lot and I think we’re going to be in counting a lot more of that with what we’re heading into giving that Hillary a very good chance of being our next president you know and I’ve been seeing the really the flashlight being shown on misogyny the patriarchy that we’ve been living in it’s it’s loud right now you know and I think it’s just going to keep getting louder and part of the voices that are turned up or women that have been very quiet so there’s always been like a handful of feminist on the front lines but there’s more and more women who would have never consider themselves feminist going hey this ain’t right I think that’s going to continue to happen because she’s waking up and she’s waking up through through women through the human form of 1 and so we are about to face you know I knew an epic ways this whole question and tasks of deeply understanding the dynamic of how the masculine and The Feminine are supposed to work in collaboration with each other and I think it’s going to get worse before it gets better and that women are probably going to swing very far to you know almost taking on energy of their oppressors to some extent and retaliating with that back in different ways so and I think there’s a lot of men that are very afraid of that very thing happening United’s very similar to raise it’s very similar to email I think right now some of the scared of people on the planet are straight white middle-aged men yeah they’re old boys network is coming down pretty fast the purest is not the best word but really just like the whole list form of teaching about Shakti out there and I know and really watching those edges of where ego in retaliation or Revenge start masturbating themselves as empowerment yeah it’s just I have it I have a few kind of sound bites that I feel like serve your intention if you would be so kind as to kind of give me some feedback and see how it drives with your approach to kind of you know I mean as an activist it’s you get trained to not hopefully thinking sound bites but be able to speak in sound bites when necessary to kind of you to nudge the discourse and one of the things that I kind of have been shown I guess or have sort of kind of worked on it I’m kind of condensing into a small schematic or visual illustration it’s kind of like I could, you kind of thing worse like if if during the creation it when the creatrix goddess you know my was designing and building the DNA blueprints for Homo sapiens sapiens that the female body blueprint got the whole download came through so that the seven major chakras were we’re out of the box activated so that you have an integration of intuition in connection to above and below and open heart and nurturing and strength you could lift cars off of children you could you know give birth and you could bleed for days all these powerful Mighty powerful yet tempered with this compassionate awareness in the sensitive I’m giving in and regenerative regenerative Consciousness so that’s the the complete package and then if the joke is at Wyndham at when the man was getting built there was like a the connection got dropped to the signal got dropped so only the first three chakras got finished and activate out of the box so then it becomes you know if the if if men were trained to understand that that somehow is kind of a case that’s the gist the reality there’s there’s not a lot of arguing argue that men need help activating the heart throat third eye and Crown chakra so it’s like you don’t have to blame anybody it could have just been that you know what the moon got in the way of the cosmic same signal and it bounced off and now we have to you know do the BitTorrent download again and repair that stuff and I think some people would say that that is what trans is in that is what these gender-fluid the energies coming through hours is it that this the patch of that of that kind of disastrous issue of men being kind of really a lower primate circuitry of violence and aggression and that was supposed to have been overcome and transcended in this model but because of that issue that’s undeniable with it it’s like the feminine is coming through in a whole new way so nice of the male chakra activation and so damn that’s where it starts help me help us fascinating is you know something really happened I think of this last generation like I’ve been watching in my generation of men where there was an introduction to there like their feminine side you know cuz we have both masculine and feminine energies running inside of us all of us you know and they just we most people favor one or the other based on usually they’re being a physical sex but not always and and what I’ve kind of seen in like men who like you know identify this man and you are built like men in this in my generator like the introduction of feeling you know and tap in opening of Cochran’s so there is like almost as new breed of man that started to develop we’re like you watched like men get the metrosexual thing popped up okay to start tapping sharing a little more about your feelings and your chakras deactivate and they’re actually is like a cold breed of man that became more common where there was a lot of them but then you lost that feeling of the route of the grounding of they liked it at the expense of cutting off their sex you know and so I kind of feel like I do you think the majority of men still running on the planet are very much in the old wiring of living from the lower three chakras for sure and they’re usually not the kind of guys who are even attracted to doing today it’s too soft it’s a lot of men time sex becomes the first connection back to that possibility you know it is a very powerful you having another funny Vision I have to add to that is that if if men were really intoxicated and on the Divine nectar the goddess through their ability to withstand the multi-orgasmic waves of a woman’s true potential in enduring multi-orgasmic lovemaking then he would really just be 2 entrants to want to get up and kill other man or cut down trees or poison rivers that mean so there’s two ecological potential of Tantra to keep men horizontal original you know I cannot refuse to pick thing was the union with Shiva laying on his back which is even then a sort of thumb a fuck you to the established Orthodox in do you know things so that the Shiva is this Stillness it’s just nothing it’s nothing without her movement waking him up and no sound yeah well this is great so it’d be weird looking back now and having discussed this these very nuanced gender dynamics that Tantra can help people navigate and the energies and I’m curious if you have more thoughts to share about ways to equip people really it’s like if you had the power to just I mean this this at this art form that came from Temple so I mean deeper ancient history going back to 20,000 years of goddess Worship in in the wild as hunter-gatherers deep in South India mean it goes back before even domestication it goes back before temples were built but in the medieval Heyday of the temple arts in the temple building I mean I could just imagine that it would say you if you had lots of power and money and influence and you could start to build temples where the the rebalancing of energy could happen with man in the desert of redistribution of resources could happen in balance with all genders and races you want to just flow with that vision and just yeah if you had if you were the one kind of scripting a fantasy sci-fi novel what would some of those chapter titles yeah well you know I think it’s some kind of I’ve been drawn to looking at like some of the Eco Village models and kind of what some of the appeal of permaculture is Ben’s just look at what is the role of Designing our space and how are space works the function of space and how does that shape us and shaper interactions with each other because I think like part of the hard part about taking such a beautiful ancient past and is bringing it to people is making it relevant to the way we live now you know without losing stuff and stuff is always going to get lost but without losing like The Core Essence of what’s important and where the transformation how the Transformations happened and and so I think there’s a natural aversion in Ardmore current day two people have a chip on their shoulder about religion and and you know even though still quite a bit of a world called some kind of face you know like we are still the majority of the global population is still acknowledging some form of God and so I don’t think that part is a stretch but I think people are more people are suspicious of organized religion but what we do really want if you want Community we want Community we want connection we want rituals we want celebration we want all of those things to be woven into our lives that are full of work that gives us purpose you know and and so like my real desire has more to do with like applying all of this to the way we design our day-to-day lives you know and how do we look at our bodies as temples how do we create our homes as to how do we create our communities and Villages our cities as temples if we were to take that mindset and redesign our structures redesign the way that we’re living day today what would that look like like that’s what I’m really interested in you know like like where would we we would have places we could gather spontaneously and have Quiet Moments if you know our god or goddess since you know and then connect with other people doing the same thing we would have places where we can gather is a tribal Village for ritual than celebration that didn’t revolve around shopping but rather some of these things that are really cool or like dancing and music and food you know so like how do we get back to those roots how do we design World’s End in person that is my desire is just so I can just kind of started studying or beginning to research and look at different ecovillages and what people are doing out there kind of daydreaming about my own versions of that you know because I do think it starts on the smaller level and wait we have to figure out how to work work it on a small scale before some of those things can be implemented on a much larger scale you know some of the I have been a student in practitioner of utopian ecological Village designing and building and stuff in and for most of my life and I feel like I’ve encountered a lot of disasters and a lot of Glorious outstanding beautiful models and a lot in between and I think we’re Tantra and sacred sexuality has brought to me in the later. Guess I’ve got about 10 years of pretty dedicated study and practice and training in Tantra and I’ve been emerging that with my eco activism movement building stuff but some of the things that I feel like or the the event Horizons for what we’re talking about which I’d love to get some of your thoughts and even if you haven’t really gone deep in exploring them in the past is kind of set seed these questions for future dialogue and for discourse and I guess I’d say that going off of what you said earlier Tantra is the one of the only integrated sexuality training programs with spiritual practice that actually is mutually honoring and reinforcing and feels like what were what the sweat the system is trying to do is is shame our bodies and keep us separate from exploring our bodies and from sharing intimacy with each other around the eight times of the life cycle where it’s most powerful and most hormonal and and there’s all of this taboo and shame around even things like teen pregnancy and in and like only in the context of making a bunch of robot workers for the rat race Mega machine Empire that’s owned by somebody else would they be pathologized to for teenagers to be impregnating each other and that is a big taboo to even consider but when you think about the flow of the design of our biology and nature and all these things it’s it’s like the coaches that facilitate Rites of Passage and initiation and facilitate the human life cycle in its real form are going to be the ones that are operating in in the natural flow of the conscious design of the universe out things are a really meant to be and so how in your mind assuming that you’re you know that’s one of the things like how do we facilitate masturbation how do we facilitate self-exploration erotic expiration in there were methodologies in the classic era of Tantra that are very I guess they’re they’re so far from being applicable now where it’s mostly adults in their thirties forties and fifties who are kind of you know stumbling upon Tantra through yoga or whatever and it’s just it’s really not a complete system that if that address is every stage of the life cycle where you know the everything is sacred and honored and enter and respected in facilitated because the act of Union is the most holy thing so of course you would as a culture facilitate that so I don’t know if speaking clearly or just sort of opening it up to this dialogue about you know this the frontier of honoring the body a hundred percent in facilitating its natural cycles and not damning it in commodifying it in limiting it so that you know porn producers can make money and you know school is can keep young people totally locked down and separated from each other for years and years and years and all of the shadow that comes with rape and abuse all that stuff I mean that’s my that’s my set up for your it’s about really the restoration of sacred sexuality you know and because there is there is a little bit of a difference between you know like Tantra and then take her sexuality is like this huge umbrella and there are aspects of it that have really become a sexuality you know and and I think they’re there is a role even more so immediately like I think Tantra can be hard for your ear average common specially American person to really grasp off the bat or even have interest in but take her sexuality is very relevant and approachable and needed for our current lives including like we were talking about that whole ushering or facilitating into our sexuality from you know adolescence through our teenage years how we come to enter a relationship with our genitals and with the sexual energy and then how we learn about you and sexual Union and and all this energy is and how those processes did used to be facilitated in other cultures and they were initiations and held you know by your treiber village by your elders and yeah it’s because we live so differently now I don’t know that it’ll ever quite go back to work like that but but I do see a pot like a possibility or have a vision of having spaces where that’s possible I mean right now I think the big hurdle is like a re-education about how we hold see and talk about sex you know and there’s there’s there’s a lot of actually also just great holistic sex Educators out there who are doing work on that front because that is its own nut in and of itself to crack the conditioning that is so prevalent just around how we see sacks and it’s not even accurate most of the time from about the biological and and Nino psychological standpoint but also like scientifically sometimes just what we know about the Exorcist yeah I think there’s a lot of education and re-education and and it has to happen to experience and it’s hard because sex and sexuality is still such a taboo subject I mean it’s just as uncomfortable for people to talk most people to talk about his race in O as homelessness you know these are things that are all important parts of what we’re experiencing in the life cycle and the first step is just like how do you how do you melt people defenses because of all of the perversion that does exist has created so much caution and of course I am my belief is that the perversion is there because we suppress having these conversations and having this education to begin with but but yeah there’s a lot of fear and trepidation around even having the conversations having the education because there’s so much danger around sex particularly for women being out so exactly and so there’s there is a fine line that gets walked where it you know we are very careful not to glorify it or to make it okay for it to run rampant because it’s an energy that most of us haven’t really learned how to work with responsibly so yeah I’ve been thinking a lot about that recently doing work with survivors and being a Survivor and just really when you look you know through the veil you see the this menacing I mean in the bible gave to and in the tantric scriptures the Tantra is where we was described as species of demons that were coming through into our plane of existence from other shadowy places in the astral Shadow biosphere that had his easier time breaking into our membranes of our astral bodies because of the Kali Yuga World age where we’re sort of on a spin of the cycle of time where we’re kind of on the dark side of the moon or we’re just more susceptible and so that Tantra was designed to be a tactical sort of sexual martial arts system for men to learn how to be in Devotion to shakthi and goddess into be less penetrated by these menacing forms of demons that they were describing and now if we look at the rate of increasing rate of all types of abuse and all of the extreme forms of violation depicted in porn an alphorn is totally a vector of of these just so you could call him will parafilias or or or antisocial behaviors or whatever clinical terminology want but I’m more and in more bold enough and brave enough to say that we’re up against non-human entities that are exploiting our weaknesses and strengthening ourselves and purify ourselves is what keeps that looming threat of violation far away from us and our communities in got to come confront it and deal with it and I want to hear your thoughts if you still have some time about I mean really I think cuz you were when when Janet Jackson expose the nipple accidentally at the Super Bowl and it was like I can only imagine that there probably were people who died of heart attacks when that happen to go from that point where I think I think it was Jay Leno or one of the night show tonight one of those said one of those night talk shows made a joke about how the US government was going to establish a department of wardrobe security because it was a wardrobe malfunction is that take off it so there’s this free the nipple movement and it really it’s it’s like I mean everything that you just heard me say which is is so out there and so far out for any modern secular person you know say oh you’re just a religious nut if you’re talking about demons you Noble but look it to put it in context and she’s like okay you don’t have to use that language but if you imagine how phobic it’s like a mass phobia of female nipples and because somehow we all know that like every one of us is deeply deeply ill sexually because we can’t handle that and it’s it’s a it’s easy to blame Christians for everything that went wrong in last two thousand years but I will say that there are elements a form of sexual spiritual hygiene that is is more of a can be more scientific like how do we how do we you know how these Arts of purification are cross-cultural in in be able to I understand that sexual imagery and nudity and animals having sex in nature and people in villages making sexual sounds that aren’t being silenced by the fear of being heard having sex and all of these things that it’s just that mass of phobia is habitat for demons you know anyway that’s me and going on to that vet esoteric soapbox but freeing the nipple is that something that you’re very passionate about it if you would be a key tactical leverage point to move things forward in this country future that were talking about to both sides of what I believe is true and this is the thing with this is the thing with life you know Tantra is about it’s the end it’s the coexistence of opposing forces right so free the nipple yeah I believe women should be able to walk around topless and that nipple should be embraced just like flowers you know and smell than happy to see the nipple look look at that beauty like if we could just look at breasts and just think Beauty just like taking in a place where they could really look at brass and back to like you know being held against their mother’s chest or attitude and sure maybe you’ll get a little aroused too and that’s fine you want to do anything with it you know if that were the case I would say yeah free all the nipples we’re a long way from that wreck a long way from that end in this is something that comes up a lot in these feminists or you know different activist circles is that there are good ideas about doing things that are calling attention to what we really need to be looking at and what should be happening and reaching for a future that needs to be able to exist and there’s often a negation of like where we are now and what it actually means to do the thing that were asking for you know and so I think I think it’s it’s like we’re in a weird. Where you know women there is this part of the whole feminist movement is being able to like not the subject defying by you know just being a body to be able to have your body respected as like a whole sacred sayings not just someone source of pleasure or getting off and these things are great ideas but how do we actually get men there like the men there you need to see them get there in order to live in a world where you can be that woman cracking up minute ago and I swear this is not my will you know whatever it is it is what it is but it came to me and I’m going to express it cuz it it cracked me up at slyke okay well exactly how we might start to cross that bridge into a pit bull breed world and it’s like well I guess what they don’t let dogs run wild and you know you can’t but so you could you have to have your dog on a leash and then go they invented dog parks and so it’s like if you had wished you could have nipple parks where the man had to be on leashes and then we’re going to walk them and have them and it would be okay if there’s actually something there I’m sure there’s well I’ve been places I lived it a femme dom got his Temple out in the woods where they could get away with almost anything and no one would hear you scream so I’ve seen it all and you know it’s not also going to be you know zone right there in next to City Hall either so yeah it we just have a long way to go and it’s just sad so sad to think that the obsession with nipples is because of the deprivation of nipples and it wouldn’t none of that there would be no market for Cleavage and there would be you know what happens anytime there’s like a real a real Liberatore change in the political landscape it’s like the lobbying groups no nipples are dangerous because we’re going to lose profits on Airport magazines if we free the nipple so we’ve got to come up with scientific reports of what will happen to your child if they see a nipple walking around and it’s like we’ve been shaped in a particular way like we’ve been conditioned by living in the world a particular way and if you go to tribes where we are women walk around topless that that was a different conditioning where they it’s natural to see bra so that it’s not a thing you know and and I think what we’re facing in a big way is all the conditioning that does not work for creating a new world yeah or any other wild ideas that was pretty thank you for your thank you so much for entertaining these thoughts and its really what do you most hopeful about what are we in with that and then and we’ll call it good about the level of connection I see happening because of social media you know like quality of connection is a different thing we just do you have more access to more people and more information and more experiences is changing and impacting our Consciousness and very cool ways I am really hopeful about not being able to avoid or else like it’s all coming to the surface I think we’re where we’re going to be on our ride for the next four years at least around gender and I think some really good things will probably come out of that it’s it’ll probably be bumpy and I think I am I’m altimate Lee hopeful about what’s available like to us information wise teachers practice-wise I feel like there is valuable information that is more readily available now then and then it has been you know in any. Of History I’ve ever heard about and that means it’s a lot easier for everybody to wake up if they so choose to you know and so I’m very hopeful about that that we might actually reach some kind of sizable Tipping Point I think that’s the direction we’re heading in now maybe maybe by the end of my life so yeah awesome well how about any sort of practical tips from your practice in your teachings to help people stay centered and empowered on a daily basis and then you can I’m sure your websites and offerings after that sure sure well I mean I think the first the most basic thing I teach and I think everybody should learn and know is really hard to work with brass it’s free it’s a free resource brass and it’s you know I think broken water are two of our most potent you are free healers on the planet and particularly like the most simple and it’s really just becoming creating a practice of breath awareness throughout your day and really watching for when the Press gets cello and deeping and deepening it down into the belly and down into the pelvis like really breathing down into the genitals on a regular basis is a nice simple one to just stay aware of and I that will automatically change the texture of how you show up in a lot of things and you can find me at space for love.com so it’s s p a c e f o r l o v e. Com and there’s information there about anything I’m offering my events how to work with me a Blog pretty regularly offer other information and tips and resources as often as I can cool I guess one last question would be from your we didn’t touch this time much on your your path and career in the reality TV show jonra and other Media stuff but are there any highlights from that that people want might want to check out or any of any future projects where you might be bringing some media stick skills and tactics to the tantric Revolution as it were for mentioning that works on lying on Vimeo it’s harder to find your my sight but my background is in writing directing and editing and I have been looking for ways to fuse. With Tasha to bring that back in and actually have a little documentary project that I’ve been working on with charu which will probably be coming out next year as part of a promotion she’s doing for one of her a couple’s home study courses and it’s a really fun behind the scenes look like authentic Real Deal of her and her beloved relationship and the way that they incorporate Tantra into their day-to-day life and their conflicts and their love-making whole wheat yeah we just we really quick I’ll State cuz it’s going to be in the title and and we talked about last time but this sort of big tent content curation mission that I have Tantra makeovers and how you know the contract celebrities have already been through their process of a makeover and they’re in their deep in the after but it’s always an ongoing after and encountering new people in there before and after cycles and just capturing that with media and kind of yeah I’m just kind of networking and opening up that dialogue to to kind of show the world that the beauty of the art the way that Bruce Lee brought martial arts to the mainstream in Hollywood and all that stuff is kind of like a bigger Mission so hopefully we’ll get to cross paths on sets of some some kind of attention so yeah that your problem cases that’s making cool well thank you so much, you had a lot of fun and really appreciate it so deeply that you’re willing to go into these treacherous and glorious places and I can’t wait to see how your path then Falls in will definitely be in touch. 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