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Santa Cruz Decriminalizes Plant and Fungi Entheogens TPP236

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Santa Cruz Entheogens Approved

In this episode I share the audio recording from the Santa Cruz city council vote that decriminalized entheogens:

Resolution declaring that the investigation and arrest of individuals twenty-one (21) years of age and older involved with the adult personal use and personal possession of entheogenic psychoactive plants and fungi listed on the Federal Schedule 1 list be amongst the lowest priorities for the City of Santa Cruz.

Read more at:
https://merryjane.com/news/santa-cruz-just-decriminalized-all-natural-psychedelics

Lab Report: Shaktification as Non-Invasive Demonectomy TPP232

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sexual-healing-with-psychedelic-goddess-worship In this episode I share a lab report from mid 2019 which documents an important break through in my sexual healing with psychedelic goddess worship research. The mixed and mastered version of the Psychedelic Goddess Worship track on the Sexorcism the Tantric Opera album proved to have powerful potentials to induce what I’m calling “shaktification as non-invasive demonectomy. My (non-verbatim) show notes are below.

Non invasive is used for surgeries, the body is not penetrated

Man cave, goddess temple lave, unclinical lab, produced an album to create the vibrational landscape for a non-invasive demonectomy on my self

multiple sessions, increasing doses’

could solve the problem of how do you induce a non-invasive demonectomy, that’s effective, unlike the techniques of the dominant paradigm of exorcism, the catholic church and their protocols

with an understanding, time does not heal, if untreated the infections only get worse and in the case of men, there’s a higher potential of survivor-perpetrators

for women, less likely to harm others, but will often harm themselves, that’s the handy work of the demons that were inserted into them in acts of abuse and molestation

demons express themselves in female survivors much less as sexual offense

in males, less divine feminine grace, cults of gang rape, women don’t usually form thug cults of rape

don’t know of any witches who are known to have done that

but men, gang up and bully runts on football team, and geeks in the classroom, they gang up and rape the cheerleaders, their so susceptible and when you get survivors in that mix, its that much more of a cascading effect

it should be axiomatic, if that infection doesn’t get disinfected immediately, than you are harboring, just like Geiger shows us, is the “face huggers”, that’s what he’s talking about, it’s all demons, their parasites, inject themselves into human host, sexual aliens, if there was a xxx Giger, that’s me, showing what’s going on

gotta figure out how to interrupt the larval cycle, to interrupt the propagation

some times sexual penetration is appropriate, however there are times when it’s not

there’s a magical power that flows through, the goddess kali shaki, and the magic mushroom, what I can demonstrate and have footage of, is capturing the rapid seizure like convulsions that occur with the shakti is invoked, not just shivers, not just normal kriyas, a controlled seizer

a presence of mind, it’s possible to surrender, but be prepared, yoga, martial arts, dancing, landscaping, know my body and have agility to phase in and out of possession states

not faking, not faking, not a parlor trick, not a magic trick, not putting on a show

I have the ability to shut it off, goddess has been earning trust from me so I can surrender more
use elbows to brace neck, stay ahead of the sense of more intense movements

set and setting for combat training, you could use padding, or train on the beach

design consciousness of low impact, the sand absorbs impact, avoiding pavement

expecting to trash around, expecting to be taken for a ride, do due diligence to be warmed up enough

not be in a contortion to snap their neck, people doing jiu jitsu, they’re aware of when they’re in danger, and maneuver out of it

gotta be bad ass ninja warriors

it’s possible, I’ve proven to myself, that adding more people is beneficial, but in the dilemma of when you can’t add anybody, what do you do, well this seems to be it, maybe not the only thing, but could be more effective than calling the local priest exorcist

they did the deeds themselves and now they’re gonna do the exorcism, you brought the demons you’re not taking them out

sexorcism that doesn’t involve any inappropriate touch or any touch at all

it happened to me to a degree never before experienced

it’s happened before, but not to this extent

she’s like an infinite array of octopoid, insectoid, she has the ability to move you in a lot of different ways

she’s going in and doing a demonic abortion

what she’s doing is what an abortion doctor would do

as sad and heartbreaking as it can be, that’s what goddess kali is doing the demons in the chakras, she’s sucking and pulling them out

these are fully formed, although I do see often that there are multiple life stages, there are hatchlings, old ones, etc. we don’t know how long they live

shamans probably have a clue, but we’re grasping in the dark, but that’s what’s happening

if you watch sexorcism the tantric opera where there’s a lot of hand laying on people, sometimes just the aura, it’s a lot of handy work, but what has been achieved to an extreme with me, is that with the track “psychedelic goddess worship” singing the mantras along with it, its raiding the demon nest, allowing kali to do the demonectomy, extracting these violent creatures, shifts in the amount of demonic load, measurable, this is like colonics

I think I made an important discovery, a hands off, solo, non-invasive demonectomy, you may want to try this yourself and go from no medicine, to cannabis low to high dose, then mushrooms low to high dose, and experiment with the music, looping the track psychedelic goddess worship in setting where you have people watching over you, and you’re surrounded by cushions, and you have martial arts/yoga background, be agile like a cat to prevent injury, if that’s you and you’re suffering and you’ve not found healing in toxic relationships, in psychiatric drugs, or yoga postures, or vipasan, or being saved by Jesus, or getting an exorcism, or singing hare krisna, or doing a detox, I say try everything else , this is a last resort

these are things that I”ve seen that will turn you white, like Winston from Ghost Busters

old school orthodox sri rama krisna order kali worshipers say things like think about it, people go to kali when they’re crushed, when they’re hating life because “it least there will be peace”, they’re harangued by demons, you go to the kali temple and there is peace, hopefully not a patriarchal priesthood

I emphasis female kali priestesses in my work, trying to get back the secret mantras, and decode the art,

the braminization of the goddess, “she was a tribal deity who was absorbed into vedic pantheon”

she was/is a village goddess

decolonize your tantra

get back to psychedelic village level goddess worship

occupying armies, languages, soma, occupying, absorb goddesses take them away from the people then feed it back to them and it’s all corrupted, bastardization by priest craft, put in empire of ego, male ego

I bow down to women who are priestesses, sorting it out, pagan villager medicine woman shamanism craft, that’s what we want to get all the way back down to

the pure hearted matriarchs of the village, witch craft

I’ve said it enough times now, how to translate this, we need to give a voice to the witches and let them do it laboratory conditions

I’m just the messenger, the source is the dakinis and yoginis, who are in state of grace simply because they dont’ have a penis that can be weapons

I don’t have a clue about what was really going on with the cult of the 64 yoginis but there seems to have been a ratio of men to women where women are quite obliged to run the show, quite obliged to minimize and intelligently design with the shiva energy, operating within their coven

I will only get better and better at doing the scholarship on these claims

women are blessed and women are cursed and we need to address this without the backlash

we can be brothers in prostration to the goddess, and experience our masculinity in its most potent form

we’ll get hardest erections when we worship the goddess

ritualized sexual matriarch, that’s probably a useful simplified term

a more rapid depiction

high dose mushrooms, safe-ish setting

looping the track psychedelic goddess worship, mixed and mastered version

never before got as far

turned into an astral battlefield, astral combat, very much like scene in big trouble in little china, when Lo Pan fights Eg Shen, astral avatars battle on their behalf

I got into contortions, spontaneous mudras, like speaking in tongues with your hands, never been trained to do, never done before, seeing my fingers become like black widow spider legs, beautiful sacred geometric formations, like weaving a spider web, as I invoke her more and sing her in more, I become what looks like a mix of black soldier fly and cobra, slithering sounds, autonomically happening the more I surrender, seeing myself as sort of dragon fly mixed with black widow, seeing now how you can allow yourself to be, in a benevolent manner, but possessed, so she can devour demons through you

co-presence between dimensions, I had to think omg this is the fly, I’m Jeff Goldbloom, but that was so gruesome and hideous, but this was beautiful, how could that be re-imagined so it was totally beautiful…so the triumphantness of the incredible hulk, still shocking and bizarre, but whats’ the more beautiful transformation where you see it as totally beautiful and elegant, nothing horrific about it, what would that be, there’s a shape shifting character.

it’s like super mario brothers when you get the tanuki suit, you jump on the mushroom and then basically you become big, you go fast, you have super powers you jump high, game play is enhanced, and with the tanuki suit you get this magic item, this feather, if you get it you can jump and almost fly, you get lift off like a helicopter, its been a long time but the thing I’m pointing to is, imagine you have the power to shape shift, as powerful as incredible hulk but not as nasty and freakish as the fly, it’s not like a horror movie like Freddie Kreuger, nightmare on elm street part two where he comes out of the guy and just sheds him, that’s the ugly version, that’s not what I’m talking about, she’s elegantly sharing my space, I am her she is me, queen bee, cobra snake, transitioning to that with the beauty and elegance of the tanuki suit. Maybe in the Star Trek movie where Kirk ends up getting it on with a shape shifter, she was totally hot, she was actually a beast that can shape shift, imagine that you could totally shape shift into a creature and have it be seamless

it’s possible to invoke the goddess and for her to embody you, and not just putting on make up and pretending to be her iconic formation
I normally see her outside of me, this time more than ever, she enveloped me, I’ve been enveloped by her, clamped down on me, fucking me to purify my chakras, but still being outside of me, penetrating, workign through me, she can swim through me, but like being enveloped by a jellyfish, about to get teeth into my chakras

but this way, she is in my like thundercats

another bad version is like the Edgar suit from Men in Black, demons wear me like the Edgar suit, but Kali wears me to extract the demons from the Edgar suit so I can just be Edgar again, then she’s in the suit, but not possessing to do harm

Sufiana didn’t report becoming the insectoid being, but she described herself rolling out her tongue and hissing, the deity possession trance state, the shamanic healing state

I documented that process later, being very limited financially, very limited with legal sanctioning if at all, having some blessing and bold outlaws to join forces with me, not me manipulated a cult, but me offering educational tools, not involving my dick

I keep my pants on for people who are not my lovers, is that fair, that’s probably a fair way to say it, if you’re my client my pants are on, if you’re my lover, that’s negotiable

back to the non-invasive…able to move massive chunks, being rattled like a freight train, by her, squeezing and working with her to do the contracts, she’s doing the work of the abortion doctor, while I’ll in contracts and pushing out at the same time, it’s so harsh, but you know there have to have been abortions throughout time in crude conditions, certainly not modern legally sanctioned conditions, where the intent was to kill the fetus during the contractions of labor

she’s an insectoid alien goddess, with blackskin, and bejeweled eyes, like the tantric scriptures say, read the 1008 names of Kali and you’ll see the depictions

I need artists to help me with this, graphic novelists, visionary artists

if you could see a woman in labor, shaking convulsing, contracting, seizures and convulsion and simultaneously a female abortion doctor reaching in so as not to leave pieces inside trying to get everything out in one whole piece and eating that thing, but it’s not a baby it’s not in the womb, it’s demons in the chakras

an interplay between goddess kali as the hungry abortion doctor, it’s her doing what she’s evolved to do which is eat demons, I’m serving my demons to the goddess,

an interplay of surrender, and the embodying of the goddess through allow her energy and body to enter your body in a way that is non invasive, she is invasive but in a good way and in a welcomed way,

but no instruments, no cutting devices, no fingers, hands, sexual contact by humans, that’s the best way to describe what’s happening
been in this state many many times, what was different this time was the force

this was the first time I was able to do what I wanted to do all these years, was able to carry it out, to a potent degree, get a massive chunk of demonic biomass, with love and power and strength and courage of the goddess inside of me, her power to purge me, with her mandibles, ready to feast, and it being a much much bigger portion, to the degree that I got the sense that her stomach was full, it had only been oderves up to this point, they were just taking out small grains of rice with chopsticks, she was going in their with her salad tongs to get massive platefuls at once, she got so full, I felt like okay I’m exhausted, she’s full, but after these big chunks got out, hadn’t happened before

very light, blinding to the 3rd eye, sheaths my vision, no more seeing the demonic monsters coming out of me, that make alien look like bambi, all of it, once this massive chunk was taken out gets replaced by this beautiful white light, scaring me, did I damage my optic nerve, I’m just seeing pure white, fuck, there’s some kind of damage…no this is the loving light, dont’ freak out and panic now, go with it, enjoy

instructed to use my own hands, placed fingers against root chakra at the perineum, while the white light was there, use the power to seal the chakra, using massage, using this light healing energy, to use mudras, palm chakras, finger chakras, to do this healing work, like cauterizing a wound, the shakti through palm chakra and finger chakras whill the white light is there, wow, fuck yeah, anatomical surgical orthodoxy, what we think about when we talk about a chakra tune up

these analogies to auto mechanics and surgeons are very apt

you’re doing the work with her, auto-non invasive demonectomy

I had the power and free will to move my body, re-adjust for comfort, drink some water, get up and just make sure the door was locked, again, not ideal conditions

there you have it, what I’ve been working on for years, one of the most glorious since 5.5 year ago initiation with Sufiana

I would like to just be living in the world that we created, to never have been separated by financial duress, within the realm of reasonable periodicity, with medical staff, scientists, medical researchers, the Bangladesh UN security force, that’s what I fantasize about, having the support to do it right

this is like version 0.0001 of the technology, this is not ready, I don’t know what it’s ready for, if you’re suicidal right now and it’s a question of you killing yourself and you dabbling into what I’m talking about, I’m willing to take that risk, this isn’t medical advice, this isn’t therapeutic/psychiatric advise, I’ll make all the disclaimers, in the spirt of YOLO, (actually its not yolo because you live many times) don’t do this in the spirit that everybody wants to see the machine elves that Terence Mckenna talks about, this is a little more extreme than that, do this because it’s life and death for you right until we get the point with research to where so mild version exists, like salsa there will be mild, medium, hot, warning label, extreme hot

if you want to dabble because you’re an extreme case of demon infection, they’re in those hard to reach spots, there’s that song where my demons hide, you want to know, It’s possible to find out, I’m not gonna tell everyone to follow my path

Kali Mandir satsang, a lot of these scriptures, don’t think that they’re all agreed upon by all the priests and priestesses, there are things that are written in stone, but a lot of the scriptures were people exploring and taking notes, like a yogi could be saying “when I said this mantra, at this place and this time in this way, I got reversed gang banged by hot astral dakinis, and I don’t know if this will happen to you, this is me I’m doing me, you do you, I don’t want to implant thought forms and skew it, and contaminated the control group, I’m just trying to build on my own research, I love what the yogis say, talking about female astral non human entities, coming down purifying his soul and doing all this healing work, sounds like what I’m talking about and if he were on mushrooms he’d be able to describe in greater detail, or maybe he was a yogi that attained an endogenous psychedelic state

nothing new here, I’m saying things that have been suppressed for by patriarchy demonic war lords for 1000s of years, but were open source tech as sexual shamanic witchcraft, held by cultures of the world, just business as usually to maintain a shamanic community

when its a matter of infestation of lower chakras, there’s some modality that’s not creepy, predatory or abusive, to somehow empower people to have auto-non-invasive demonectomy sexorcism, auto invasive demonectomy sexorcism, I’ve milked my own prostate, kali possessing me, shards of light coming in, healing, demons coming out, most stunning gorgeous arrays, beauty is subjective, every woman and aspiring woman who ever put on make up with the intent to beautify herself, what every single one strives for is what can be seen when you invoke the goddess with these mantras, and with 3rd eye open with mushrooms

me doing me, phenomenologically, in my own bubble, the most beautiful feminine facial features, and graceful sensual movement, and just every woman or aspiring woman aspires to be, that’s what I’m given, that’s what I’m seeing and if it wasn’t for seeing that I would have ended me life a long time ago on this journey, the brutal beautiful truth is that you gotta go through hell to get to heaven, for the sake of what I’m saying now, I’ve seen the most grotesque creatures I could ever possibly imagine, and take all the monsters ever made in art and film and multiply that by a hundred, and you maybe will get close to how freakish and grotesque and disturbing and mortifying, miracle you’re not catatonic seeing this, the antidote to that hideousness, that makes it tolerable, to look at it as you’re pulling it out, the unpleasantness of removing a tape-worm, the unpleasantness of disinfecting that wound with that pus in it, and all of that, I know there are places in the world where there are blood parasite or urinary tract parasites, pulling a barbed fish parasite out of your urethra, that should feel pretty hideous and I bet that what I see in these ceremonies induces a similar level of mortification, disgust that you would have if you had to do that, while I’ve had to endure that hideousness, if you ever see the electron microscope of blood parasites, imagine if they were just, if you were in a realm where you were shrunken down to be in a massively dense cluster of all kinds of different blood parasites the ones with the circular mouths, and the ravor sharp thorny looking teeth, and weird suckers and pincers, the most alien, bizarre, monstrous, aquatic looking, arthropod looking blood parasites, imagine you were shrunken down a million times and being eaten alive but what, in scale wise becomes these giant giant monsters, then that’s what it feels like and looks like in there, I’m afraid to teach anyone to do what I have done because I fear that they would ever come back from that state of visual disturbance to where they wouldn’t just immediately slit there own wrists and literally rip there own eyes out,not knowing that they can’t reach far enough in to pull their pineal gland out, are you gonna crack open your head and pull your fuckin 3rd eye out and stomp on it, that’s what you’re gonna wanna do if you fuckin see the shit I’ve seen, omg, its nothing the shamans of the amazon don’t see every fucking day, it’s business as usual to have to confront these grotesque forms of life, if you know that you are bigger than them and you step back and you go no I’m not the shrunken millionth of a size me inside of of their world, their inside of my world and I can step up to them like standing up to a bully and I can exorcism them and I can purge them with the medicine, of course you have icaros in south America , and you have mantras in India, how to have syncretic shamanism, sacred sexuality and healing work, lets bring the best of the cultures and not be left with the patriarchal douche-baggery of suppressing the feminine

seeking the path of the goddess here we are, here I am

I get to see the antidote to that hideousness which is the extreme beauty

what makes it all worth it is the sweet beautiful blessed honor of beholding and being imbued with and making love with and being possessed by and suited up by, I have been suited up by the most loving most beautiful, most exquisitely constructed bioarchitecture deity, I don’t know maybe you gotta be the kind of person that things ants and bees are cute

this is the way to look at it, if you’ve ever thought of how in cartoons they’ve made ants and bees look pretty and feminine, and then sexualize that and m ake it into a super hot, goth, metal, sort of like, matrixy club, goth industrial club, shining latex, everything we think about the dark erotic, she is the dark erotic cartoon bee spider, just a cuteness and sexiness and a otherworldliness and an alienness, how many sexy beautiful loving aliens have we seen in sci fi, someone tell me, some show me some, I’m sure they’re in different comics and things, some of the arists they’re doing it, they’re bringing it, astral ecology with Tom Denney, his artwork is the cover of my book, you only have to wait until my book is released to see what I’m talking about, the beautiful feminine alien insectoid goddess who will turn you on, turn you inside out, but but you right back together, surgically restore the soul parts, tuck your chakras back in to your astral body, kiss you goodnight, tuck you in, all the works, the motherly maternal aspect, the sexual healing dakini wild, again, I’m saying nothing new, because you go to an orthodox kali puja and they are saying kali we love you you are the mother, you are the lover you are the friend, and not at all invoking, you hear the word mofo all the time in this culture, all over the world, I don’t know what’s going on there, this is not a Fredian Oedeple kink or neurosis, this is very different and it’s it’s own thing, I kind of went through my messiah complex already, at first I wanted everybody to fuckin know this, because it defeats the tyranny of all patriarchal world religions, more powerful more profound, more radical, more anarchistic, more revolutionary than any prophet, any christ, any saint, in buddha, any yogi,none of them delivery this unless they’re deep into the worship of kali or the tantric goddesses, of which kali is often considered to be the mother matriarchy, the queen bee of the many goddesses of the tantric pantheon, which is influenced with the vedic pantheon but has interplay ultimately with the village goddesses

the beauty is out there, the truth is out there, the beauty is in her, the truth is in there, you’ll see her the way I see her in Tom Denney’s book and on the cover of my book and I didn’t commission him to do that, he did that because he is tuned in as an artist, the way Terence Mckenna describes it to be an artist who sees the future, who can tap into the astral plane, or have the astral plane tap into them, wish me luck

pray for my protection, I’ll be doing my best to sheriff the perimeter of our reality and clean up the infection sites and to fortify the souls of the next generation and to really hospice the souls of this generation, where I am feeding and nourishing many goddesses and keeping myself as humble as possible with as small as a physical footprint of property ownership as possible, with as few possession as possible, and if surrender my money and wealth as it comes through as I have been doing to my beloved priestesses and trust that as long as they hold the sword above my hands and my head and they chose not to let the sword fall on to my arms and onto my neck than I will be continuing to do my work in a good way, and they will be the beneficiaries, they will be my sexecutioners if the time comes, each with their sharpened swords, ready to take a whack, so be it

Shamanic Pornography and the Ethics of Consent TPP230

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In this episode I’m sharing the 2019 Xbiz Show Consent Round Table session where I respectfully introduced a question for the panel on the ethics of consent for psychedelic shamanic pornography. Not knowing how I’d be received it took a bit of bravery to speak up but I was met with gracious insight and advisement from industry veterans. They were on point with their concerns and dissuasive remarks, all of which I take to heart and value like gold. I feel that whether you’re a sex work, porn performer or producer, or so called “civilian” with no involvement in the sex industry, this panel is very enlightening, and I thank them all very much for briefly holding space for my niche question.

Exploring the Politics of Crypto and Psychedelics with Mike Kokal TPP224

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In this episode I’m joined by Mike Kokal of the End of the Road podcast. He interviewed me a while back, click here to listen. I’ve been a fan of his podcast ever since and have been thoroughly enjoying his diverse and holistic array of guests and content. I invited him on the podcast to talk about his approach to modern trends of crypto and psychdelics as a lawyer. He offered a lot of important insight into how the system works and how we can improve and transcend its current form.  He shares a holistic and balanced perspective on a wide range of controversial issues. I was grateful for his help to refine some of my hopes and visions for the future.

About Mike:

Mike Kokal is the host of the End of the Road Podcast which showcases an eclectic mix of guests working with ordinary and non-ordinary states of consciousness in the finite playground we all find ourselves in: “The Horizons we strive to touch but are already there.”

Mike is also practices civil litigation and is a patent attorney. His professional bio can be found at: https://secure.heylroyster.com/attorneys/details.cfm?attorneyID=90

The End of the Road Podcast, which is nearing 100 episodes, can be found here are wherever you listen to podcasts: https://endoftheroad.libsyn.com/

Gender, Sacred Sexuality and Spirit Work with Lee Harrington TPP215

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In this episode I’m very pleased and honored to be joined by the highly accomplished Lee Harrington, he is one of those very precious “where have you been all my life” kind of sapiosexual soul mates that you feel like you could talk with forever and ever.

I knew this was going to be a deep, profound, enlightening, and transformative journey. His  perspectives on sexual healing, liberation, and empowerment are vast, multi-dimensional, and infinitely thought provoking. I’m looking forward to many ongoing explorations, it felt like we barely massaged the surface.

He shares his personal background of transitioning from being born assigned female to becoming a man,  developing personal practices and group opportunities to experience sacred kink, working as an adult performer, becoming an international sacred sexuality educator and advocate, and so much more.

Our dialog felt like a free-style jam where we riffed off each other’s musings, laments, and future-positive affirmations and visioneerings. It felt like a bit of collaborative improvisational spell craft; all intended to expand love, acceptance, compassion, and co-operation.

We dance with language and he provides insight into ways to evolve the terminologies we use to define “us and them” and when appropriate, transcend to more of a continuum than a dichotomy. I’m hopeful with the application of Lee’s wisdom teachings, we’ll move towards an unprecedented global village where a new “us with them” paradigm will replace the “us and them” and “us vs them” binaries.

About Lee:

Lee Harrington is an internationally known spiritual and erotic authenticity educator, gender explorer, eclectic artist, and award-winning author and editor on sexual and sacred experience. He is a nice guy with a disarmingly down to earth approach to the fact that we are each beautifully complex ecosystems, and we deserve to examine the human experience from that lens. He has been an academic and female adult film performer, a world class sexual adventurer, an outspoken philosopher, is a kink/bondage expert, and has been blogging about sex and spirituality since 1998. His books include “Sacred Kink: The Eightfold Paths of BDSM and Beyond,” “Traversing Gender: Understanding Transgender Realities,”“Playing Well With Others: Your Guide to Discovering, Exploring and Negotiating the Kink, Leather and BDSM Communities”(with Mollena Williams), “Shibari You Can Use: Japanese Rope Bondage and Erotic Macramé,” and others.  You can find Lee’s podcast, tour schedule, free essays, videos, and more over at www.PassionAndSoul.com

Sex, Drugs & Mostly Yoga with Kara Leah Grant TPP211

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In this episode I’m joined by a brave and courageous tantrika who shares a love for psychedelic spirituality and has been on a path of evolution set in motion by powerful transcendent drug experiences.

She shares her intense story of spiritual growing pains, navigating love and relationships, tantric initiation, and ultimately owning her power to teach and transmit the practices of tantra.

We talk about the differences between Yoga and yoga, the role of asanas and tantric practices in the path of self-realization and liberation, neo-tantra vs. classical tantra,  the role of psychedelics in aging and maturing spiritual practice, the interplay between the chakra system, the nervous system, and the endocrine system, the intersections of biomedical science and tantric art and science, and much more!

About Kara-Leah:

Born and raised in New Zealand, Kara-Leah is an internationally-renowned retreat leader, teacher and author. She has impacted millions of people over the last decade through her articles, books, videos and teaching. Passionate about liberation in this lifetime, Kara-Leah practices and teaches an every day path of awakening – the path of the Awakened Heart Warrior. This path is grounded in Tantra and focuses on dissolving layers of the conditioned mind into deeper and deeper heart-felt presence. Kara-Leah’s work, through her teaching, writing and retreats, focuses on using the process of compassionate inquiry to reveal conditioned mind, and so help people to drop down into being-ness and presence. She is the author of two previous books, Forty Days of Yoga and The No-More-Excuses Guide to Yoga. She can often be found dancing in her living room for no reason at all.

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Com and our journey together will begin hello David Lovitz welcome to Township on podcast episode number 211 I am here with Carly Grant and she is a touch of teacher and author and we’ve been connecting by social media and my interest is piqued with the title of her book sex drugs and most of the yoga field notes from a Kundalini Awakening has a very similar structure and and serve residents with the title of my forthcoming book and looking at so far the outline of the book I haven’t had time to fully enjoy it but to be able to get a sense of what How Deep The the rabbit hole goes it’s really exciting and I can’t wait to hear more about it in this will just kind of be the the primer and the incentive to go deeper in the future with her works better love to have you tell us kind of all about your personal background and then we can get into the evolution of this this writing that you’re doing and what you have offering what you working on the future gifts from my ex and a background I’m in my early forties now and then finally experienced in my life and for the Whistler ski Town it was an impact time of dance holidays and club and working and Hospitality sucking out the Mountain hiking in the mountains around America convergence are included to the practices and tell me if it’s a nightclub that may just like all of my possessions if I didn’t have enough self a wenis or knowledge to work with what was coming up so those things also. and I was at 4 time music please to Ocean blonde with my partner engaged in my fiance I just took me to the edge we took on the Friday night not a whole lot you know what your headaches to see on Friday night and then I may be going to a yoga class on acid which is doing mines post three times and is it a super teacher kind of looking at me funny and that just began this is skating unfolding shift in my perception of reality that long story short went from Bliss Wellness instant downloads of everything to eventually starting to go into deep trunks where I was speaking a foreign language my fiance he we can do it like I lost touch with reality and waking up in the psych ward guy what the fuk just happened to me inside that it was like trying to psychosis and then life post psychosis where I’m coming from that is very interesting and exciting and I’ve certainly had wow definitely profound otherworldly experiences where I was completely disconnected with consensus reality and ended up in some very bizarre situations in can commiserate on that as well but it sounds like also somewhat glorious do you want to talk about what insights that were happening and how long was it last thing in and just yeah can you can you even almost in a way channel the that you were at that time to to give us some some fun insights about the other side yeah absolutely on the fishing on his side so that happened was right on the new moon that experience and it was a Sunday morning that it began on Friday and sedated the Friday night and saw it was about five day experience to those who are astrological things happening in the sky and then a month later to my fiance ended up breaking up with me right side face before and that triggered a stick and experience of psychosis so I had two experiences and what was you gave me an opportunity to see how the stick and experience is triggered by my own emotional defense mechanisms and the way that I couldn’t handle the grief and I ended up disassociating and because I’d already my psyche was already right John is already to reduce a multi-dimensional reality inside that stick in his time there was a list of the translate State Police of the crate is coming through the wasn’t the language Exeter so going back to the experience it was extraordinary how to put it into words we just kind of go back and feel it was it was as if I dropped into knowing you know it just old things worth knowing is one way to describe at like anything that I needed to know I was at my fingertips I could just reach out and it was like I knew every witch every song every book dissolve at one point in the journey but it was also via quite strongly and other points and because the experience was being held by the the challenging relationship I was in a lot of ciaran Tiara coming up going to couldn’t communicate with my fiance cuz I was so worried or afraid of what he might think of what I was going through and he was looking at me like I was crazy and I can feel that so the whole experience was are the light with all of this fear of speaking truth and this way that I was kind of responding to his description of me as such so the where lots of different visions that came around the nature of reality and it was it was so the child that the world is different from what we told school and what we told and Society was being confirmed and just a little Winston’s to like it’s never about what we want and it’s always about what we need that I need for always be Mitch witch simplistic or like me what does it mean it’s not really a big deal everything just seems so important and so profound and so when I was trying to communicate this with my pain. He was just my voice doesn’t make any sense in like one thing I remember quite clearly as he was wearing glasses he needed glasses and I was trying to tell him that in the future we wouldn’t need to wear glasses that we were shifting into the what I was saying in the future and what was actually happening now and so I keep trying to take his glasses off him and tell him he didn’t need them of course he saw he needed them so it was like I had an ability to steal through time but it was very hard to ground that into recognize what was actually real for right now since I was really confused child and suddenly having all of these talents will gifts or abilities, and have no understanding or no way to put them in context or to ground them or two to use them it was incredibly confusing and since you’re fine and you’re very Blissful at the same time in like a deep sense of relaxation is well it was all happening at once interesting very time shake that distinction contrast between the Bliss and the terror and it’s a magician that I follow sometimes online and and he’s talking about really deep really edgy taboo kind of exploration spiritually and he says he’s a one-time very often you know the aha moment turns to oh shit and like I can I can get that sense xhilaration but also that the terror and so wild so cheap do you feel like you had any Transmissions from beings or entities or deities or anything of that nature any kind of like encounter type moments now there wasn’t any specific mbodied other beings that came true it was more like just the same to the wholeness of the Wonders and just knowing that would come through around like I knew that I had to return to New Zealand and I knew that I knew that was related to my mother and I related to my life Jenny what was required. The whole time. To really encourage my memory as much as I could with what I had to see it and then when I begin to do is to attempt to pass out to determine would like to see been truthful Vision or was that psychosis was at the the same scar I mean I was so laid him down with him scar is still so they will what was coming through so it was a real challenge for me to go right what was real and what was just the delusions that I was still laboring under and can I tease out the gold while sleeping the wrist and so it was more so in any language is a particular form of breathing like a hissing where I was speaking even as I was inhaling and exhaling and I had a beer and I was I remember quite clearly watching that passion and the other language that was coming through very much later like last year when I went and saw hitchhike on a hooptie section when she went through things was that I was missing a past life that I’ve had in the Egyptian mystery traditions in so that life was getting confused with me being here and now and now but if we not still. Join us we buy different lifetimes will bleed into the apparent here and now in a way that’s not useful because we haven’t eaten most of the ability to walk in those different Realms 2 walkthrough time whilst leaving things with a minute today yeah that’s very interesting actually was in a meditation group but I went to the one I think maybe just one time I went to this one particular group where they had this skill said that they would apply which was basically this really intentional really highly focused laser focused rotational I gazing where the train meditator would do the sort of left eye to left eye eye gazing with everybody who came to the meditation Circle and there were also practicing or tradition of meditating with your eyes open but they the masters of this path or the adepts of this path they would cultivate I can’t remember the exact methodology that they were following but it was replicable and it was it was very reliable that they could do this in and they would basically be able to once you lock into the eye gazing with them within a few may be a couple minutes of intense eye gazing you start they start to melt away and you start to see them change colors and phase through various genders and and and personalities and and and bodies and faces from there multiple lives and they’re basically scanning and seeing you so it’s almost like you’re you sure it’s almost like you just wear like a deck of cards you know or a deck of it and you just have whatever is in the current consensus reality on the surface of it but if you have one of these meditators going to shuffle your your lifetime Persona ask you no cards and then it’s a real powerful experience so I’m very much in a position to to validate your experience has it in for people who are I don’t know I don’t know how busy I’ve been such a Believer for so long now I just can’t even imagine people who would say that multiple lifetimes or reincarnation is is to woo woo or you out there just makes total sense to me and I’ve had enough I haven’t had what I think some people mainly love Ayahuasca people I know they will the ones who who are the sort of facilitators of Ceremonies some of them I just say a number of them who I know they kind of report this pattern of them if they do the medicine path you know rigorously honestly for however long it takes basically they will start to get through their get through the Karma’s of the current lifetime start going back to previous lives sequentially and then also I think can currently doing work for on behalf of the people that they’ve had car make and take them it’s with over multiple lifetimes so it’s kind of like a you just start polishing one layer after next you know going to this is so anyway that’s very just saw my thoughts to it to validate that experience and I could see how you know that I mean I would like to ask you if it was LSD that cause disorder abrupt jarring Rift and so having comparing your other mainly psychedelic experiences and Explorations do you feel like how do you personally feel in your heart about LSD is that your friend is it your enemy is it your lover is your Trickster yeah I know it was my initial instincts is it was the only state that hit that had triggered at but it’s just so I can go by myself feeling like that differently united life with my partner and I wasn’t going I didn’t think again really into the spice when juicing translate state tax return connect Museum to wake light on after the second episode I didn’t say I would just stop drinking so I can place on anti-psychotic medication so she created Everything Gold fangs because I was really we are you doing anything that might trigger I was seeing a man and he hit some ice and he was going to type it and at that stage in relationship I was still quite greater than my share of triggering my psychosis again triggering psychosis again so I chose to take some don’t much like really small dice it enabled me to really witness and hold the intense emotions that would trigger it and that relationship was a very intense challenging relationship gave me the ability to witness and feel emotion and why I hadn’t even had prior and not react to it was I watching the rolling waves coming and fully feeling of adjusting out in it and so that’s when I started to realize I yeah I see that the usefulness of at least a. At this point in time when it’s not something that I just feel like I need to do any more percent but I have used it again and it has thing fascinating to see what unfolds in the nature of the psyche and your reality I’m sorry I just feel like it’s definitely my friends and I’m curious about it but it’s it’s not one of my allies necessarily oh thank you for sharing that yeah I kind of feel like when I was more of Gonzo psychonaut in early stages in my life and I will go pretty far out with that luckily unlike some of my friends who who had the the misadventure The Misfortune to over like literally not to point of causing any physical damage but overdosing on LSD can happen easier than people anticipate and it can have dire long-term consequences and I’m glad that you obviously reconciled and in and had the other skill sets going to worry didn’t just cause long-term issues but I know people certainly and I think we all probably know some people that they weren’t intending to but it’s easy to overdo it and so yeah I’m glad that are you able to to get to where you’re at but I would save myself to I just I learned a lot from it but but as a I guess I’m way more interested in the time-tested shamanic guided and I would say like I I I don’t feel I like to ask you if you feel like this comparing to the other medicines really I think it’s more of a it’s like the nuclear option you know of and it has a lot of risks associated with it I was saying beautiful things can happen but I just don’t feel like there is a a a spirit guide that’s assigned to that medicine from the greater sort of bureaucracy of Spirit guides and I’ve obviously mother Ayahuasca the sort of Grandfather peyote and grandfather which Yuma and then maybe you know giggly Elvish alien creatures for the mushrooms or whatever but still whatever it is there’s some sub something usually there according to my experience is another people were at work but it just feels like with acid there’s just not there’s not a a sheriff of that realm somehow there’s not right it’s just kind of like you’re on your own I don’t know if that’s it maybe you meet God or you get to see the guide her you’ll meet the deities that you studied if you’re very religious but but you could also get jumped by demons and not get your mind back for like this lifetime so my students it’s worth noting went to when I did at the at least I think I had a quarter for 10 it wasn’t even strong stop imported tonight interesting take at it feels like the whole structure of it and it doesn’t feel like there’s any particular guy with it where is cannabis and mushrooms and it was very much feels like I am communing with a being the plant you know I feel that being with me with the communication begins with the intent and withholding the material which is very different psychedelic Jenny it’s the container and the context and the intention and integration the goal of these things that we wreck around it a crucial and we are so many people that have just taken it with what do none of that so that way they do start to encounter these more terrifying aspects of the psyche of the archetypes of the underworld and what if they don’t have a framing or ways to work with it inside that’s when things can get really not like exploring Consciousness even a ground of a triangle that is safe for a psychic how to manage Instagram those are very good points and I actually it makes me think that we have a lot of a lot of policy and a lot of I think good wisdom that says that you should probably not be drinking alcohol or taking hard drugs or psychedelic set at early stages in life before your brain starts to fully mature and what not but this gives me a sort of food for thought that something I’ve never considered that there be like an age range were there be an upper limit bracket is well aware it’s like okay you have to wait till your message to start doing it but then at this age later you better stop doing it cuz it will be more trouble the FBI could do more harm than good I feel like if there’s one substance that for me it’s kind of like yeah have your fun with acid when you’re when you’re invincible and you’re in your you know late teens or early twenties and what not and taper it off over it’s over time because it can be you can be destructive I think more than the necessary and safe I think safer and and as we’re agreeing both have any more guided more support experiences that have been nurtured for thousands of years with you know even if we’re not in the Amazon or in the the traditional ceremony I still feel like the relationships that previous human beings have built have created a sort of like a landing pad pad for those those helper spirits on Earth and who knows with where we’re at with acid maybe maybe that will eventually happen but but it’ll be up to the youngins is there any way not to put it that down hopefully if anybody’s listening this and they are there really strong Advocates of a regular ongoing serious LSD used and then by all means come and represent that that side of things but with all that said I’m curious now can you tell us about how how did the Tantra proper come about into your journey yoga was going to be cheap out of my recovery let me know when the doctors to speak to a concert with some kind of spiritual experience and then I needed to really deep in my yoga practice I did that and ended up teaching started teaching in 2006 when I was asked to teach inside I didn’t get no matter what because I felt that Judy an obligation to my students and I started reading into studying the traditions of John cheever Ray that I really felt like all that’s woman I can learn from because the way that she taught there is something spontaneously in my practice around that time I went to LA in 2010 to do my teacher training was Sheba and she had Christopher Tompkins who was a tantric practitioner in Scola come on that training and Cheech the Tantra philosophy and practice portion of it and that was when I was introduced to Tantra and it just felt like coming home and Chris he gave us this particular practice which is just a daily a very simplified version of a daily practice that he found and he has been collecting from Kashmir primarily like literally hundreds and thousands of tired so he told us his practice and then he also initiated us and at the time I didn’t realize the importance of that I didn’t you know it was just to make it just a site this thing it wasn’t really a big deal so I came home and just keep doing that practice sporadically for about five years still not really going into 6th until I didn’t want people to think that’s what I was doing so I just quietly and I decided I wanted to do a thousand a practice practice to become a master serious as I want to master and ask legal commitment to show up every single day and then I dropped the ball for various reasons. I made it to 617 days and then drop the bull and I’m now on my 15000 days in a row and today is his it’s just revolutionize my experience of yoga my understanding of it of Tantra and it’s initiated such a date process of literally burning through some scars in, like I feel and about a year ago they internal guidance is like a Caillou really stinks this down time for you to step forward and teach it which not quite scary actually because it’s a whole different way to teach it’s a whole different thing that I’m teaching and then I’m transmitting and because I hadn’t had any contact with Chris and I don’t have it at 8 to hear and use a lymphocyte a big part of me was like can I do that if I can get my hands on and studying and living it I guess but I’m not sneaking with a lineage at this point in time but it’s time you need to skip forward again this side over the last year my experience has been enormously and I will and I have been reading every book I can get my hand on on edits it’s been an extraordinary experience to to Really grasp what it was where it came from how is lost as such and what it means to us and a modern lives now how can we practice the coordinates of the tundra Traditions arrives sorry it’s on you being the last stand up and say I know this stuff and I’m teaching the stuff that I’m bringing it through that’s what I’ve been doing to the last how to use well yeah this is very interesting I find it at it’s is I guess it shouldn’t be a surprise but it is it is a surprise I mean I guess the only way I can kind of reconciled is that the Wilderness is a beautiful documentary called yoga woman and it goes into just how much effort women had to exert resisting patriarchy in order to establish schools led by women to teach yoga around the world like it wasn’t it wasn’t it was a man’s a very patriarchal very hyper masculine secret control thing for a long time and then I don’t know why you wouldn’t expect that you would most people not like in the west they think o yoga that’s that that’s that thing that chicks do you know where something is like actually know I was a super you know control tightly-controlled Cult of male priests that were doing this so that they could you know experience forms of advanced practice that required bodies they were basically able to endure these extreme austerities and his extreme really religious Pursuits but it wasn’t necessarily that was very it’s in the very closed off and I I wasn’t too aware of that history somewhat somewhat sensitive to it knowing a bit about tantric history but just that film yoga woman puts a lot of perspective or you’re like while we take a lot for granted about how westernized things have got but I bring that make that point about that film because it’s it’s it what seems to have happened and I love to have your perspective on this but it seems like this false dichotomy between Tantra and yoga or tantric yoga or yoga or however however people want to mix it up it’s basically that the the more fully integrated Township practices for one within Tantra you have a lot of Shadow work a lot of left hand path a lot of black magic and so when I miss my understanding is a basically Christians and Muslims Came In Waves over the course of centuries and in the process of wanting to colonize and take over and exploit the people in the land of course they’re also having this moral Crusade against the darker forms of Tantra and then now in the modern world of India is the more sanitized versions of yoga are all that really remain above ground and then this country scriptures in the country practice is most of the darker practices have been have been at least band and there’s anti black magic legislation that I’ve read about and a lot of the that the Tantra Mantra practitioners are just selling black magic Services as a sort of snake oil saying in the Glorious more profound shaktism and goddess worship and what we would consider to be the more benevolent and benign path of Tantra that we I think in the west kind of whitewash the darker side of it but it’s it’s like it’s like it’s the whole thing was made Taboo in the whole thing kind of got tainted I suppose in in Worcester wrist and the Glorious aspects of it were sort of sanitized and so like I would just keep saying things like the modern yoga that we know on the in the west is basically the the kids version of Tantra because you’re not caught the whole set of teachings that go along with all the chakras in your not taught taught about the sexual aspect of Awakening Kundalini and the end of the ritual worship of the Goddess that like it’s funny because you say I mean I’m just looking at this in a macro sense of the telephone game at the store should a happens with coaches over time and what we end up with in the modern world in the west and it’s like the the yoga that that I have experienced in yoga studios in classes and with the yogis that are really a bad that I’ve met like again as you mentioned you could go almost decades in yoga and never even hear the word Tantra once and you could also and then even more disturbing to me when I did find honcho is that you could go years into Tantra and never hear the word goddess or Shakti so it’s like now I’m very curious and I know this was kind of a soapbox a little bit for me but I’m also just kind of it’s always interesting to me that moment where are Yogi discovers Tantra and then realizes wait a minute what what why was this why was this in the track at the at the at the movie store it’s like behind the curtain that you’re not allowed to go into and then you discover your like wow I’ve been I’ve been missing out or I’ve been I’ve been denied access somehow so I’m curious just if you could talk about with your mind you reconcile these two words and and in your studies what you feel like is the now that you’re teaching how it how do you tell people ask you what’s the difference between yoga and Tantra I mean the first thing I always wanted for defined as what do they mean by yoga do they actually mean Asuna what do they mean by liberacion this is Chris thing I always wanted to clarify mean someone uses the trip between yoga which is half ways to self-realization alliteration and the tools of yoga which included Asana pranayama chanting meditation but deliberation and if it’s basically a phone or text or identified with doing the perfect posture the very thing that’s me to deliver I do is actually taking you deeper and delusion and illusion Chandra is a methodology or an approach to yoga so if y’all get is self-realization Tantra is an approach to self realization and it’s the fast way it’s like the way that cuts through the bullshit need the thing that is most effective most powerful most recent and my I only do it now for physical reasons it’s like there’s no need for any any other capacity Liberation in so yeah can someone asking me about what’s the difference between a month is not a difference between tantrum you’re the one that it’s an approach to yoga and then I also want to clarify that means you’re actually interested or are you interested in joining us because but it’s not Liberation so don’t confuse I really appreciate that you mention how this is the the way to cut through the bullshit and also that it’s the antidote to living in the Kali Yuga because that’s something that I read in very scholarly works on classical Tantra and the you are very rarely hear people talk about that in Neo Tantra workshops that this is a very tactical and strategic set of really designer tools that that are specifically designed in the way that I liked reading about it was this point being made exactly to your point it is for this time that were in which is extra delusional and extra demonic and just as bad as it can possibly be and maybe it’s going to get worse before it gets better so you better have these very effective tools and basically it’s almost it’s it’s the way that I’ve read about it is that I mean to be a little bit rude even I would say that in the the happier go lucky or Golden Ages in the other wheels of the cycles of time they could be lazy and get away with it because they didn’t have as much Flack and they didn’t have as much resistance and they didn’t have to fight back as much so but from those time more more abundant Divinity on Earth and more benevolence in the cycles of time and then they had the time and they had the luxury to cultivate the tools get the tool kit that they were creating for us to use in this time to fight back in to defend ourselves spiritually so it’s kind of like if we can find this stuff on Discover it and work it and put it to use then we can get through this like karmic swamp that were in now and then if we can survive it as a species that we will have as according to the prophecies according to the this this way of thinking is cosmology then you know our progeny will really inherit a more beautiful time of your more beautiful more Golden Era and but it’s cement what we’re just in the the bottle next year we’re in the in this this Dark Age and so it’s just that he has an interesting concept that all this is a gift that we need to unpack you know it’s basically like a it’s like a time capsule or not Time Capsule but it’s basically like a it was as if they they buried these these these caches for us in the scriptures for us to discover and Unearthed and then apply them almost like we’re you know where Navy SEALS or special forces or something of that nature is kind of way I see it so I appreciate that you that you said that for us cuz I think a lot of people they don’t want to acknowledge they don’t that’s too it’s too much Shadow work for them or they don’t want to I don’t want to kill the five or killed be a buzzkill talking about that that part of it or are you using yogurt to liberate yourself right United Liberation is not about making life better it’s about Liberation to about truth about realization and what I’ve noticed is I need a cheap knowledge he’s for working directly with Consciousness so as one’s a wenis and ability to sense the subtle becomes more more refined prices began working with Consciousness for the someone who’s coming into practice who is living there and then in order to become aware of what is happening in Chinle for themselves I guess it’s just an assignment of being able to be a weird one securing on the inside me and I can start to do the most subtle practices near me because of the point that we apply the practice itself is not the thing the print just simply create the conditions needed for the process of dissolving and unwinding to begin to Heaven prices of dissolving unwinding samskaras in comas and that will happen when we learn how to get out of the way and hold the space which is the whole point of the practice the same as the process that creates the conditions for the process of Liberation to be put into action if you will and then we just have to keep showing up and surrendering rating go and letting it happen and there’s something else that is it in the contract that I just come across recently that like because these practices were secret they weren’t in the cheeks the written down but the chicks are only a loser and describe some of the practices they don’t describe the real secret the real case that was just like you said that they would come a time when it was necessary for these practices to no longer be a secret and actually to be spread far and wine and I feel like we need those who actually care about Liberation most secure about waking up they need to know what’s going on for the my need to know what tools to use I need to know I had a navigate there in the world have never got Consciousness and they need to understand what happens psychologically when people begin to dissolve the SAS guys and comments from previous in this lifetime of course as well and that knowledge I think is it just not out there very much at all okay now I think for anyone listening who hasn’t read it acquires many books or baby hasn’t been down this path so far I could imagine that you’re wondering that you would love to hear now I would love to hear can you go into detail about you know if it’s not too much of a secret now that we’re talking about kind of open sourcing this technology and in the modern world so it’s what is your what is this daily practice look like that you’re doing and then you could go to go from there and say describe I would love to hear in your words what is the outstanding difference in the the the tantric practices that that for Liberation that you are teaching that you have learned in your practicing now cuz it’s 8 for me it’s so interesting every time I try to explain what this is I have to start almost from scratch it’s just like such a naturally kind of elusive infinite con concept and so are every person who brings it brings their definition to me I feel like I’m that that blanks later that that empty cup you know so I don’t so I’m not projecting my headline ocean. It is very obvious just reeling to hear how other people articulate this bass you know a very personalized thanks so please but I’ll meet you before we doing this practice at that rate and so the practices is to warm up links with a blockages are for the brace retention and then it moves into a clearing and a diagnostic running a diagnostic in the clearing on the system using State exams at the chakras and placing them placing the Munsters The Sounds in that area is another way inside its checking in to see what’s clear once blocked what’s going on what’s Happening stage three is the disorder of the dates of the practice and this involves mujras and involves Chun Chang and involves visualization and involves invoking the chassis Shakti and Shiva and uniting them in the hospice and that’s the third stage what I’ve noticed is it’s it’s not super intense car has like three things. I’m out of the system out of the field when that is happening which is simply sitting back and watching what unfolds now that you’ve laid the foundation and done all the other stuff so watching the movement of Shakti Kundalini Prana watching at move around your body watching what the bridge does watching the thoughts of flight paths watching the feelings that come out and staying the witness or consciousness of that important really win the dissolving and the release saying in the unfolding that’s when Visions come through strong emotions in Cecil line healing deep trauma order that stuff will unfold and that last part of the practice so it’s so powerful that mean to keep Knology in the more you do it the more it will be in trigger the prices which is the road to innovation it’s beautiful and it brings me back to my first Tantra classes with Rhoda Jordan who is my initiatrix into Kundalini Shakti energy and rotating the spine and using the Moochers and mantras and movements that were dance movements and various expressions and also the guided visualization so I feel like you could come in off the street and have no esoteric leanings be a total skeptic be a total materialist rationalist agnostic atheist whatever and you could have this very palpable introductory-level I call it like a chakra tune-up a chakra tune-up you know like you were getting your Prana oil changed in your getting your. You know your chakra spark plugs kind of reline and what episode people have this and it is it can I think the the Austin is can be like a good warm-up or a good cool down but in the center or the heart of of a tantra yoga experience it is this massaging and moving of the Kundalini Shakti energy and using the sound to activate and facilitate like a a very unrestrained and very unrestricted flow of a tenor he’s so everything seems like it’s some working in concert in harmony to allow that energy to flow with his little obstruction is necessary it goes to the places where it’s needed most and isn’t just being wasted trying to blast through your stiff neck or something like that you know so I’m feeling just to get for people to get a visual of what were what were you talking about what this what all this is like if you had to if you had to explain it to explain this stuff to somebody who is it super scientific rationale extended believe in any of the magical or mystical or Cosmic elements how would you describe the you note to a doctor what what it is that you’re doing or if you had to do you were doing a corporate retreat in there like we need to know what this is going to entail on like a biomedical level could you translate it to those terms could I change my nothing that right b i g u is a lot to do with that option within the sound is vibrational I mean I really just want people to try it to do it but if I needed so I wouldn’t be able to but it also takes medical terms that I do feel like that’s possible now when it probably wasn’t possible 20 30 40 years ago with the way that science is advancing and quantum physics in particular in their understanding of Neuroscience in the wedding Neuroscience is beginning to understand the brain in different ways and met mystical experience and understand that how to change your mind by Michael Pollan and he’s got some great Bryant Brian science in there that looks like it’s just you know the way that people are frightened the world normally feel like science is stronger and stronger and stronger people just going to get on that label is which is going to really help with the spread of these practices when people start to realize how powerful they are as Technologies for working with Consciousness with working with the Brian working with the nervous system all of us. Will you articular that very well yeah thank you I don’t get it I think it is important cuz it said put some point I’m 100% in agreement with you and the way I would wear that to it is to say that it hits the the woo-woo and esoteric and far out practices of acupuncture and acupressure they’ve been completely accepted into the fold of Western medicine now it will at least to the extent that you can you can put that on your you know on your standard American list of therapeutic things that are basically covered with your help with your health insurance is not considered too far out as alternative medicine and so you know if we can take those Meridian is in those energy lines in if there is also the data backing it up because if there’s enough research done in besides that using the scientific method and they can say well even if even if the actual mechanics of it the quantum mechanics are still somewhat elusive at least we know that there are results in those results are measurable and so it can be validated and and recognized and acknowledged and so I think that the tantric healing particula. The trauma healing modalities will eventually get to that point that acupuncture acupressure is and there will be charts of the chakras in next to the anatomy charts in in the doctors every doctor’s office will just have the sound and I think the only thing that I would add to what you said about just trying to bridge that gap for people who may be total Skeptics is that I was fascinated when it was brought to my attention that the the major are crows and there’s obviously debates about exactly how many there are some people say there’s multiple third eye permutation chakras is obviously just as is many different maps of the chakras is there are lineage is a tantra almost but we’ve kind of mostly agreed upon their being seven major ones but basically it’s it’s it’s been noted in end hypothesize that there actually is situated literally on top of or within or basically at least in terms of the the Distribution on the body there pretty much right in alignment with the endocrine system glands and so the pineal gland that all of that basically going going up and down the spine of the endocrine system and that makes a lot of sense because if in the in the chakra system teaching country you’re talking about these essential personality and information processing organs that the truck was our will that’s exactly what these glands are doing or 10th processing intense amounts of information and also really defining and in programming our experience of reality on a chemical level so that’s that’s definitely very interesting to think about that enter play and so this was a really really awesome expiration and just kind of bringing it accident the fundamentals of Tantra but also helping to to put into context the need for a think you’ve given one of the best polemics so far that I have heard on this podcast about why to get deep into the deep the practices and and really the case for taking yoga to that taking the Austin is to the next level of the tantric practices and so appreciate that and I want to say yes so do you want to just spend sometime kind of giving us if you like to share a sort of closing meditation walk us through some of what you would have to offer an in it in a a training you know take your good however many of you several minutes or more you like to give a sort of either a signature meditation or something just completely spontaneous that would be great but and also either before or after give us your final words in your website links and where people can go to get the book and also anything else you want to say about the book anything else UTI you care to say I’ll let you just take over from here yes it’s Six Flags in my siaga it’s a meanwhile of my recovery from that experience Awakening / psychosis and and understanding of what a treaty was so that’s available on Amazon only online book stores you can get on my cell as well and I have a I have a retreat coming up in Mexico September 29th to October 4th at so I can Hotwire it activation plaid Entre for the modern world I will really be able to join this practice we’re going to take him to practice and really looking at how do we embody unconditional love right that’s the awakened heart Unconditional Love and Truth which is the warrior standing in truth and bringing that 4th and 2 + communities because my senses this world is that the more of us that are able to embody unconditional love in penis after the shift will be on the planet and nothing feels more important than that and grounding it and Tantra practice in an understanding of time should I visit a solid foundation the people to take that understanding and stick back into the communities of one of the limitations to do wish I could. Pointed a wenis one that just came through spontaneously once upon a time that I’ve been using for number B is now so whenever you want to have you sitting and standing with driving how if you’re listening to this podcast just bring your awareness to your breathing just starting to notice what it feels like to breathe really noticing the feel of the breath and your nostrils you might feel it down the back of your throat maybe you feel it under your collarbone so and your rib cage possibly all the way down into your pelvis even your tailbone just noticing nursing what it feels like to braid what does it feel like in your body when you breathe you keeping your wenis on your breath also become aware of your whole body whole body awareness in the crown of your head all the way down to the soles of your faith goodnight is saying what the brakes feels like in your body but all such feeling your whole body front of the body back of the body right side of the body left side of the body and just noticing you noticing any Sensations any pain need a duplex for Delaware to bring the way of your whole body Men start to become aware of the ground underneath the Earth maybe getting a sense of sending root down into the ground just feeling what it’s like to sit on the ground on the Earth getting a sense of the soils underneath you maybe having a sense of the Bedrock with a water table deep it down still aware of your breath we are of your whole body Rosa down three play aware of the earth ground feeling yourself reaching down into as deep as you can go and then retaining awareness of breath awareness of body weenus of ground expensive opening up towards the sky beginning to expand your wenis outwit and upwards all the way to all the way to the Earth’s atmosphere beyondmenu all the way to the Moon Beyond maybe all the way to the planets to Sun and even issue expand outward upward to the sky to the infinite Universe still aware of the ground still aware of your whole body and still aware of your breath holding all of them New Orleans Saints All Saint Grant body sky now you sound tourist center of it all even as you remain aware of it all sending out so much love to you all thank you so much being for this opportunity to stake into share thank you so much yes I was beautiful and always appreciate meeting new folks doing this great work and learning new ways of articulating this mysterious technology but this was one of the best one of the best times I’ve had learning and getting acquainted and appreciate it so much and hopefully we will be in touch and you always feel welcome to come back anytime you have things you like to share updates and yeah looking forward to turn off Liam’s sharing and in supporting each other’s efforts I’m going awesome again for you feel free anytime to reach out in the future and I wish you the best of luck in all of your endeavors and will talk to you hopefully soon thank you so much I took care that is a r a l e a h. 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Dancing with the Shadow vs. Light-Washing Dark Truths with Matthew Schultz TPP204

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In this episode I’m joined by Matthew Schultz, a distinguished multi-media artist, musician and ceremonialist with a vast array of experience in both modern dark ambient experimental music and traditional shamanic ritual and ceremony.  I discovered his work recently via the Psychedelic Salon podcast episode 607 and realized we have a lot in common. On parallel paths, we’ve both been evolving from unguided musical shadow practice, to seeking shamanic ceremony, and integrating higher consciousness and vibration based on our sonic discoveries and revelations.

We get to learn about his unique and adventurous music career, his diverse shamanic initiations and his personal struggles with reconciling music, medicine, magic, and the archetype of the sacred trickster.

We also commiserate on the rampant plague of “spiritual-bypass” and “light-washing” which keeps many in the new age scene from confronting dark truths within themselves, their spiritual communities, and beyond. We discuss the need to integrate a shamanic perspective an astral ecology and develop a modern scientific framework to understand astral parasites.

He provides a much needed catharsis for those who have been tip-toeing on the egg-shells of spiritual correctness. It was an exquisite joy to be able to compare notes and share many deep healing laughs about the state of the world.  A moderate dose of cynicism is counter balanced by a heroic dose of divine love and light that is truly contrasted by a clear gaze  into the dark abyss. Ultimately we share great positivity, hope, and enthusiasm for an ever more enlightened future as old paradigms melt away and the psychedelic movement moves towards more of a “localvore” approach to cultivating and harvesting medicine species.

About Matthew:

Matthew John Schultz is a multimedia artist, musician, inventor, sculptor and indigenous practitioner. He was a founding member of Pigface and the dark ambient band Lab Report that included such diverse musicians as Genesis Breyer P-Orridge, and Lydia Lunch. Schultz also invented the A.T.G. or Anti Tank Guitar and utilized this instrument with both bands. In total, Schultz has appeared on over 29 cds with 9 solo productions and 2 feature film soundtracks (Ivan’s XTC and Snuffmovie) for Hollywood director Bernard Rose.

In 2010, Schultz manifested the esoteric and ancient fraternal order of The Division which reconstructed ancient spells and rituals. Mantras is the first in a trilogy of discs that express all aspects of The Division. Matt’s latest release is Mandalas. This album contains binaural beats and tones to aid in meditation and dream states.

Matt has also spent time in Peru working at an Ayahuasca healing center as a facilitator. He has worked with Lakota elders for over a decade and was initiated by Mayan elders in 2010. He is a water pourer and peace pipe carrier. He continues to be involved in indigenous medicine ceremonies of many varieties and runs sweat lodges outside of Chicago, Illinois.

To view his fine artwork, mandalas, music and more please visit
http://www.mattschultz.com

To visit his website for his sweat lodges please go to
http://www.sweatlodge.love

To friend him in Facebook please go to
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 204 I’m being joined by Matt Schultz and he is really a jack-of-all-trades and nygma and an Intrigue to me now discovering his work based on the 2nd of ixalan podcast and he was on a on an episode recently that I heard in a really it really piqued my interest because we have a lot of residents in common ground in the extreme and underground and experimental music scene he’s got work in the pig face send lab report and he’ll tell us all about his his music scoring and soundtracks and really being a doing his sort of wizard witchcraft Alchemy in that space and also evolving into a someone who is Shaman escorts Shaman assure someone work within that those ceremony around tonight in that I weren’t just want to make an extra note to say that I feel like they’re I know you know that being in the various different scenes and Circles of of Ceremonies that there’s there’s definitely a cohort that is kind of post music industry or sort of post kind of not maybe some rock stars but definitely lots of just different people who been in the underground in the extreme music genres who find their way to ceremony either through their own rehab and Recovery or true just now getting bored what’s happening on stage in the entire world is a lot of paths that lead to it but it’s beautiful always to see the transformation of one’s people get switched onto sacred frequencies and toning chakras and 432 and cymatics I mean that’s that was my Story 2 of of having aha moments about understanding music and in in sound healing and want to be part of more than the solution unless it the Prof of somatic we speak and say I can’t wait to hear all about you and your journey it sounds like we do have a lot in common and I and I hurt and I do I’ll put a link to that that episodes people can catch up on that too but but feel free to just tell us all about your your your Evolution musically and spiritually and we’ll go into some of the issues that are going to give us a funny show title and we’ll reveal that later that’s great thank you so much for having me on it really is an otter and just chatting with you beforehand it’s true it there’s this it’s nice finding a resonant frequencies amongst people you know and it would this would be great talking to you so thanks again thanks for having me on. Yeah it’s it’s interesting cuz it has been a long path man is been a long path and I would say most kind of go back to the beginning here I did a lot of experimental film work when I was really young and started doing it because I’ve been thinking about this a lot to bring us up together podcast I wasn’t interested in playing music as I was in creating tones and I didn’t even know this is a kid and I remember buying this guitar and I would tip is Kemah stats and I clip them on like the second string down and stay like the top thing was like no Daddy right and I would use my fingers in the end of the hemostat and then like kind of isolated so that I can add to take the string in a Perpetual drone you know and I was completely fascinated by this capability of just creating these drone Tonk Central Illinois in the country I had no idea you know this is a long time ago and said it was his idea that I wanted a creepy stones and I was completely unaware of why I want to do that right but I I put headphones on these just monolithic drone tones and now I’m looking back on it I really do think that was like this this had to be a thing where I was affecting like the root chakra is it could be that the second chakra I’m trying to do something depending on my bike tuning then you know and without even knowing what I was doing and I think of years later that led then to the construction of the antitank guitar and I built this large stringed instrument and it had 10 strings on a basically the six were the same spacing is guitar in the other four were is the same spacing is a bass guitar instrument was 8 ft long and had a bridge 5ft the bridge to bridge is 5 feet and you know I use 18 gauge like string wire you know to the crate tones with this tank and again I was more about creating two things one would be like the tone and then the other would be that I retrieve these atmospheres to again you know what that time I had my own kind of definition of what I was doing but now looking back on it it was really just steadfast Shadow practice you know I mean with the other two band members we were creating pretty horrific sound Fields Miss I would put it and that really struck me as I was capturing the the collective unconscious of American culture and it was listen to it back it would be just absolutely horrific you know so again and I don’t even mention his name of the podcast a lot of that shadow practice was a form of catharsis for me it was cathartic and I wanted to listen to kind of go like holy cow you too let’s move away from this again it was okay Oka right like the sacred clown you know what I’m talking about the Hellcat a sacred clown like a Lakota sacred clown it’s it you know I do things that you shouldn’t do or the opposite of what’s normal to tell you what is normal like don’t do this right so so anyway I kind of sick think some of that early a shadow practice was exactly that you know it was creating this just nightmare horse Cape that could express to The Listener we’re not to be you know in a in a strange way and mind you this way predates like any new age you know we’re talkin like 80s New Age movement was extremely small back then are virtually unheard up you know the whole thing about total therapy and chakra tones and stuff like this was just completely unheard of so again I think it was a lot very intuitive practice which we can talk about later to like getting into chaos magic in this kind of following your intuition so I did that and then Martin Atkins from pigface he was in a different band at the time uniform pick base and he came to me was sitting form in this project you want to be involved and of course I did they were industrial Roxbury Chicago you know we’re talking 90 now it’s very Chicago Industrial Rock Ministry was just really keep getting into before men and by 91 or two we put out the first bass records that went on tour with that and again I really wasn’t too interested in in I mean I like industrial music and stuff but I was really there to do kind of this sustained tonal in a 18 minute intro for the show and I always considered it like a magic spell that we’re putting on the audience so they are like I have Sheltie do that spell will have them build it up and then they would come out and do their spells right and so I did that for a while and then after that I started working with Bernard Rose who did the movie Candyman and he was doing some Independent films now we’re in the late 90s by this point again I’ve been putting out solo records this whole time and I started doing horror movie soundtracks for him I mean directly did snuff movie and some tracks on iTunes ecstasy it said it was fun and I think that was probably more the conclusion of that kind of style of music you know that formative years let’s say and give it a little break its mid-2000s now I’m starting to hear about sacred medicines and Ayahuasca and frequencies all the stuff starting to come to fruition or at least to me and let’s see by 2007 I started working with Lakota Elder in Southern Illinois and doing sweat lodges and learning to be a fire tender or being a fire tender and learning to pour lodges and I did that for years and then I hooked up with some Mayan elders and spent a couple years on and off in Guatemala and Mexico with the Mayan Elders learning from them doing Thomas Carl’s there and and then one day they’re like Hayward initiating you and it was the Frog medicine and that had to be panically the most intense experience I’ve ever had like I helped you might really made Ayahuasca look like marijuana to in my definition that was very potent and it wasn’t necessary the Frog medicine as much as it was the datura they use a lot of datura and I and again posthumously so to speak I found out through research on the back end really what was going on to some degree with their medicine practices and I started practicing with some Shaman so Iowa skero’s here in the states that were from Brazil travel the world with them walk the Camino ended up in Peru working at Ayahuasca Center outside of Iquitos and now I’m back and I pour sweat lodges and I’m writing a book that’s a cautionary tale about sacred medicine in indigenous practices so there you go that’s that’s the nutshell awesome so yeah I I love hearing about all this and just to give the listeners a visual I looked it up on Wikipedia The anti-tank guitar I believe I can imagine you named that because it looks like a missile launcher A and B that seriously the the low bass tones I would use the woven garage door cable like in your garage that makes the garage doors go up and down right so woven cable and I have these humbucker pickups you know I mean we would use that like we would tour and and we would have you bring I forgot what a writer at it was like what they faced it was something like whenever 618 dual subwoofers and we would marry that up to the house system and I just push everything of the house system up to theirs you know what I mean in the end if people didn’t you know like we get there to a show at the venue and a promoter do you like you know who this is common to we can give you what you wanted what you going to do not play you know it’s a lot of times I can hold you captive and I remember a sound guy would go like mad can you go up there and Sanchez sound check that atg just a straight electric guitar right but these subspecies low bass strings for subsonic I mean I can and so what I do is I would use this knurled rod and I would agitate the screen again all the way back to my childhood right I would add to take the string and it would sound like somebody had a Nebo you know that the vibrating magnetic vibrating device for guitar strings one of their tops and so they would throttle the PA and then every time they be like that you know that Michael could you hit the low in and I would slap that bottom string and it would just shut the Pas off everything else this is total true story First shows we did with it I believe Houston or Dallas where were the Butthole Surfers were from and we were opening up is when the only time we opened up her cuz we’re headlining act but we opened up for the Butthole Surfers and it was a sold-out show it’s been you five thousand people there and you know that they come to you to go to your introspect I feel like I mean this is one of the first live shows in front of thousands of people I’ve ever perform on stage and I might start my interest very high and I could have taken almost minutes before I get to these lohit beats right well it’s so loud that I can hear it on stage which you know it’s musician a lot of things you can only hear your amp early on stage kiss the Pas in front of you right it’s very hard for you to be absorbed in the Pas on cuz if you worry about getting back anyway right I remember that it was so loud that all the pedals of everybody’s effects on the floor of the stage we’re literally bouncing across the stage and I absolutely I just knew I was like man this is going to end up happy in Guelph and I hit that low strength and it shut down the entire PA I mean like and I are sound asleep hoping he was like that every single switch is just to shut it the whole thing off right they had to repower it up and the audience of course. She know cuz I’m building up this energy right and I’m starting a load going for these guys just Rising drone and it came back on it had to be like 1/3 the volume and yeah they say stuff some of the stuff I’m working on now is the idea of being completely engulfed in that sound you know yeah man things I want to talk about regarding your the music all the tech some of the technical musical stuff and then get into the the medicine work where I think is it it really there’s going to be a lot of fun fun stuff in there but I’m curious so you this is something that for me I didn’t discover this but it came basically like a modern tantric yoga Guru figure came into my life the way that Tyler Durden came into the life you know in that movie and it was very a very ballbusting authoritarian smash your Paradigm you know rubbing your face in your own shit kind of initiation with that type of personality but he was a classic like a very well-respected music industry equipment manufacturer like he was basically making old-school analog equipment because he believed so strongly that the digitization of all the music was really not only just bastardizing at a dumbing it down but actually like destroying the the safety the sacred healing properties and he discovered that by studying cymatics so when he showed me the same out of scope videos was years ago now that was became what what I wanted to start tuning everything to my voice my instruments you know and then straight going down at 4:30 to kind of conspiracy rabbit rabbit hole and I got to know yet what your story of 432 and cymatics how that has has played out for you if those things as if you had some some aha moment along the way where you you know I have that kind of initiation of Sonic vibration initiation if you owe rudimentary aspect of it you know they teach you in these these cuz I like cello bows and the ebo to generate Perpetual drone it’s right and but again this is before I knew all this stuff so to me in retrospect you know it’s too bad I didn’t know what I know now because those intros could be like they would be much more of a man a true magic spell in the sense of you know if I have all the notation you know if they are like it’s it’s the standard C D E F sharp GA chakra from root chakra all the way to the crown chakra right so you could cycle the people through which is what I do in my sweat lodges with singing bowls so unlike the Lakota my my Lodge is Multicultural so I bring some lakotas the Mayan some other stuff and my singing bowls and I’ll spin through those chakras in the sweat lodge and so to me that’s kind of like part of that that journey travel right for the for the participant are you going to just cleaning house in the way while also being in the lodge know when the cymatics came around and again I can’t even tell how long ago that was when I when I ran across that do you know of a Buchanan I just oh my god I think I’m going to have to double-check the name Buchanan yes sound healer that actually invented like a machine that can selectively locate you whatever your cancer and then he’ll find the appropriate frequency to destroy that cancers out of Reno Nevada right and so I’m sorry to Robert Buchanan yeah I had gone out to Reno with some friends to visit him cuz they knew him and he took us to his laboratory and I mean he literally wrote the book on cymatics and somatic sound healing right and he’s got a spa so they’re in Reno and he’s also a conductor of the orchestra that means a really fascinating man and he kind of these little things of water and then he was coming up with all the somatic shapes and stuff in this is the first time I’ve seen this and it was after very recently after my Mayan experience so you know I was so blown open from that experience that I when I came back from Guatemala I was making all these mandalas and what I was doing was kind of incorporating the actual visual cymatic quality of the sound wave depending on the notation into the mandala so that if you listen to the song This is the eventual goal this if you go to my mandalas project if you go to match.com you can go to the mandala then and that’s called like or you can go to the actual website the mandala event.com and what it is is it has the stomach that was that I made and songs that they wrote using binaural beats which is also another thing we can talk about but it also uses of cymatics so like for instance I have the chakras as a visual cymatic poster a graphic that I created right and then you can listen to that notation at the same time and to me that’s a meditative practice that drives it all the way home because you’re forcing the visual as well as those are all right well that’s what they want for their supposed to be what you want isn’t mantras together right yes cool man well that’s amazing so and then it’s for the people who are not aware of cymatics in the same a task open this whole science do you can you put it in into your words I don’t think I’ve ever mention that I may have mentioned before on the show but but it’d be great to have you kind of give it an intro overview on what that is how I know I’m not an expert on any of this the idea is that Whatever frequency that you’re broadcasting right it’s going to create a like I say if you put water down or sand on a metal plate that’s one device that they’ve created it’ll create a visual representation right of the sound wave and so to me it worked more with like the hidden messages of water that in Moto but you know this idea that like your language creates a frequency that the water is reciprocal can receive okay so this gets into magic than this whole idea of like Abracadabra write these ideas of magic so you’re creating frequencies that the liquid will literally take on a physical representation of that frequency right so that gets you back to what you were talking about what she was like before 3 to tuning is the correct tuning for health and Universal well-being as opposed to what I and I get I don’t even know what the other what tuning do we use nelacar western or 4:40 is the Nazi conspiracy tuning that we have to go research that’s exactly right why are we here now because of 440 tuning right there’s some great documentaries are some really funny kind of spooky ones to online on YouTube but it’s it’s pretty amazing what some of these Millennials are doing with with YouTube and and fair use kind of phone hacking Montage V yeah it’s amazing some of the stuff on 432 I’ll just blow your mind in that pattern is just a visual representation in a lot of times if you do look at these different mandalas they are a visual representation of that so I can’t it I don’t know I’m not a you know I’m not a professional in this I don’t know the history of this and that you can follow it like you were actually brought that up earlier you can follow this culturally back you know to through many different cultures right yeah that’s what I’ve been told is that it’s it’s basically natural organic instruments kind of default to these to be some intervals or this December standard and he will say it’s the residents of the Earth and space safely you’re tuning yourself to the to the Earth frequency in that when when when the baddies figured out that they could create disease and agitation and disruption on the cellular level than they basically they had an elaborate conspiracy that’s pretty historically you know that you can I don’t I don’t have all the facts memorized and there aren’t there is some debate obviously about some of the more conspiratorial aspects but it’s very interesting the actual the actual what is factually known about this process that was used that was kind of a ruse like a rigged election to vote on which should be the standard tuning and the characters behind some of that rigging or people that we would think there’s distasteful character is in the history of politics it thanks but it’s interesting that yes no I mean that completely makes sense to me that completely makes the most simple emotional level like I mean I think even Beyond you know the technicality of the 4:40 or the universe has the 432 Hertz tuning horror movie you know it it’s it’s causing that this evidence that it’s not the visuals that are so horrific as much as it is the sound design you know and it don’t spoil you learn that in in your sound production companies you know our class has him so I’d say if it’s the idea that you know there is this sharp stop right and it goes to something else so which way you can almost like I could give you the laghetti or penderecki score from The Shining you know it ain’t that goes like you know it’s that pluck that’s the condo that creates this like shift in your body it startles you you know I don’t see how I mean I think that does kind of support the 440 not to see if there is a bad tuning right yeah so yeah I totally see that you know that we interesting attitude knowing that you have this the background in creating the the horror movie soundtracks can we zoom in a little bit on that and sort of what that’s a sort of bitters at that’s a ceremony of you’re creating and you’re making that music and you’re feeling into the Vibes of you know the director or the storyline and what not what would you say and I think that is it’s important that we were that’s all lessons hopefully we watch these movies and we become better people after we watch them cuz we see oh my God I’m about like two more relationships away from acting like that guy who’s the new that I almost feel like if you don’t if you don’t express your Shadow and dance with your Shadow then then obviously we’ll run you unconsciously and so I think there is a important place for for owning and in respecting these film genres even in in not trying to demonize them as it were until you have played a role in in channeling and hopefully in the air with a sense of ultimately doing good or better and are helping helping Souls evolved dino by exposing the steps I’m just curious if you could talk about like what how that felt or how that feels see you when you still into those rounds in that energy and then you allow it to possess you to create tones and and scores and stuff like that so interesting well then you could you bring up bring up a great point because I’d have to say and I’m going to dress this first while it’s fresh in my memory I dissolve lab report because there was a social because I realize you had to be responsible and I think we were being irresponsible I really do that project was completely dissolved because I thought it was being taken in the wrong direction it was being worshiped and adored when it should have been repulsive and and horrifying the people and we would you know this is back in the day before the internet right and so we had you know what y’all near album you put out that you got signed a record it was old school right we got signed to a record label I mean the first record we put out was actually final you know and and then the second record again I had Genesis Breyer p-orridge on Lydia lunch and so you know there is some big names coming in and we were creating quite a a horrific sound and we would get fan mail it stopped and I would always respond to this but quite frankly I found most of it just utterly disturbing you know and to me like the Helga II again Timbaland so empowering in really meet people where they’re at and as I’m thinking like this him in hearing you speak I feel like the if I had to explain to somebody who never heard the word Tantra before and you’ll people ask me to clients and we’re not where should I begin and what should I read and certainly there’s I really enjoy Urban Tantra by Barbara carrellas and also the jewel in the Lotus and also the complete idiot’s guide to tantric sex this one ever had I’m waiting for this I’m waiting I’ve been waiting for something like this every time yeah I just praise here at your style and approach and I really think the what it brings together is it just these two words kind of came to me these two terms just like that the self-help genre and the self-help movement is something that is sort of its kind of made fun of or it’s not it’s not really taking totally seriously or it’s kind of like oh yeah you’re there something wrong with you and if you were normal you would you would not need to go that route so it’s kind of like a weird thing where you might you might lose respect for yourself even by questioning that or thinking what am I to you having a midlife crisis I don’t need that you know what is going on but then with Tantra it’s so there’s such a almost like a martial arts kind of level of self-mastery and self-discipline I really is the sort of Jedi training and I think you bring that you sent the size those two for me those two opportunities where it’s like yeah you you’re actually using courage and bravery and becoming a warrior but then you’re doing all this really touchy feely deep emotional work and that should that should take care of people’s hesitation to go either on a warrior path or on a more self-help spiritual path that gives you your compelling people to take both and for when men I think they they seek that out maybe they seek the warrior path more than the spiritual path but there’s I think there’s a lot of marketing and hype around that for men but this is really good tip for a loved one country women’s use the word Fierce and they invoke that that energy and they Empower femininity with with that those archetypes so could you talk maybe a bit about what that means to you the that just reconciling masculine or feminine Shiva Shakti really kind of bringing these tools of of strength and resolve and discipline to two women who may be of this been crushed by patriarchy you know for Generations oh yeah that’s a big question right there yeah and that’s I mean being crushed by Peter I came that’s definitely why I wrote the book and I actually why you were talking I just wanted to mention that I have a section on their on you know telling women to how to stop denying that masculine energy or also men love because I find that you know because you know a lot of the women I work with the idiot had just bad experiences with men or with times that they’ve stepped into their masculine energy and so they’ve just been very hurt by it and then they sort of backed away from it and you know I try to work with them on you know it’s about housing balance of Both Worlds and really understanding what the masculine is and also the ways in which masculine and men have been disempowered you know and really starting to take ownership of that you notice a lot of times women are like you know when I start bringing in the masculine they’re like okay I know I bet that’s like to heavy like that kind of energy that they don’t want to work with that energy and they don’t want to explore that energy and so I say okay you know there’s there’s no pressure and there’s no rush cuz you got to do what feels right to you and a lot of time they seem. Just by like stepping in to do that feminine energy because it is fierce right it is courageous it is powerful like you said there is not Warrior quality to it I’m still by simply die do something like this to summon and energy you actually calling up you know those masculine aspect you’re calling up that strength that where your strength at the same time without really realizing it so unconsciously and and you’re bringing those forces them to bounce and I’ve seen that a lot of times with women that I’ve worked but I’m really like surprised at how the feminine wild like this actually you know it’s soft there is softness in the feminine but as you claim it and as you’re able to fearlessly stick with that and embrace set and embodying it naturally you know.. Here’s mess. Power starts to rise time to help stabilize their energy and so it’s pretty much really a magical thing it’s pretty amazing and so I have this part in my book about you know how to really heal yourself from what you thought maybe you know how house Gary masculine energy might be some time I’m sure there are practices that really going to that and yeah and then that’s really a big part of my work to because a man I mean we are in need of some major balance here on this planet and in this life in this world so I really feel the more that we can Embrace anybody and I’m leaning into the feminine that is rising right now in the more we can scan with that the more that we can make space for on the masculine to heal and balance and a bike ride but like Reno really hot like it in excess right but Valance in such a way that it kind of comes down to meet the famine in so that this beautiful kind of dance can emerge Amor Harmony and that would just make such a huge total impact and we just within the body the container of one individual body being able to fuse and merge those energies so powerful yeah I’m really is why I do what I do awesome yeah I can say from experience from the first couple of experiences and session work that I experienced with you then I really got I was able to feel the force so you know that if we’re going to be using that Jenna archetype you know in in there if you want to call Kundalini Shakti goddess energy which is I love calling I love I love hearing of Kundalini as a salmon in force and you were the one who activated that for me and it was just very unusual yeah I remember like it was yesterday and so I appreciate it in you you can get really philosophical and really theoretical but grounding everything into practices to make it as a workbook almost it sounds like this is amazing so you and it’s something that has to be felt in the body to really know what it is yeah it’s hard it’s hard to find words nothing will thank you for all that great work do you feel kind of complete as in that in this kind of brief introduction but but pretty I think it’s a pretty good overview I definitely thrilled to to go deeper with it and others will be as well so I wanted to give the bulk of this episode to this important news of promoting and getting the word out about the book and then but also address questions that I’ve had as a sort of I’ve become a sort of meta Godparent to a lot of different mothers who were rebranding as independent mothers who are in various stages of Court battles with baby daddies for custody and for child support and and I’ve just checking on this sort of I decided I’m not going to reproduce biologically all of my vasectomy but I will reproduce culturally by my being short playing that that more of a Shimano roll in peace and also keeping a little bit of distance from that that this is a an ancient sword of time tree thing of if you are not to be the guru per se but to be an Adept you may have to disengage from householding because there’s just so much mundane kind of learning and things you got to sit through so your country path is always going to be kind of a balancing act between how much of a household are you going to be and what roles are going to have within a community and then how far out you get to go on your own into your mystical practices so I have taken that past of offsetting my my familial obligations a bit so that I could study things from afar and then just go to be this force of will hopefully an Angelic sort of force supporting women who are in different degrees of Crisis that’s just a little bit of a of a context for why it’s important for me now to reconnect with you in a n n learn from you and share your teachings about Tantra parenting the pattern that has been emerging in the question is being asked of me and the view is is how does a woman who has just recently given birth and going through all these different chemical changes and hormonal changes how do you what’s the advice on keeping that spark of love and attraction alive with the baby daddy partner what are some some tricks and tips that you would recommend for for that really critical bonding you know six segments of Life first of all I’m not going to lie. I think the first thing to do is I mean really too kind of except that it’s not going to be the same but. It’s actually you know like I said with you know what having kids how you’re able to look at the things that really matter to you that was so when you actually are with your partner and you have those moments you know they might be less but we are going to be amazing because you are fully present and you’re showing up each moment you know and the end of a lot of for me it’s like when I first became a mom so I had my first son and it was really hard I was just like what cuz I was Dino stole so focused on your child and really wanted to be there to nurture that I and you are you know you’re you’re so deep into it into motherhood and it’s so new everything is so new and exciting and exhausting but I am in a few months I was just like oh my gosh like how how does this work how do we make this work and it was really really difficult very difficult but I found that by you know because I’ve had my kids almost 8 years now until I found that really what we eat sometimes you know if if we need to say like make an appointment with each other and that’s what we have to do if we have to put it on the calendar they okay these are the the two or the three days a week that were scheduling for ourselves for intimacy for connection then that’s we’re going to do that first there was a struggle because my husband’s like okay this isn’t sexy yo after he got over that initial thing it was like okay like we can do this we can make time for this we can we can be intentional about it for us really had to do that because not only was it you know hard navigating with kids now but also the work you know work in the balance of that it was just really tough so that was one of the things that we did the other thing that I want to say is that sometimes you know you you have good intentions but I got at the end of the day you’re exhausted and and then you just end up wanting to just sit there and whatever you want to do watch TV or you know just go to bed until I always like to say that really if you really want to keep that sparked going not to give up just because you feel like okay you know I don’t have that energy right now or I don’t have the time to put into this right now to really see and used Contra in a way that it’s really meant to be experienced right because Todd’s are really isn’t just all about sex right and having that fat set spark Tundra is it much deeper than that and so sometimes you have to tell yourself like okay even though we don’t have time to make love right now maybe maybe it’s just about lying down next to each other synchronizing out of breath making that I contact I’m falling asleep to that I’m letting that be enough you know before you know this night or this week or whatever it is like in the beginning it’s not to really put so much pressure on yourself but to use Simple practice is like you know that you have your own position and just sitting there together and being or maybe you know it’s one night you really need a massage right now you know I really just after having a long day or a long week and be with the kids so much that’s what I really need so communicating that to your partner and really staying in touch with that and not being embarrassed or not feeling like it’s too much or too much of a burden or whatever it is just really being clear about what you deeply need I’m in a lot of that comes down to really checking in you know with yourself all the time and seeing what’s there I really feel like things like that even though you know you might be cuz it’s also self-care right so you’re able to connect with your partner in that way and then you’re also able to have that time must be nurtured and a slowing down which is also key so I think everyone is going to work differently and it’s going to be unique for all of us but it’s really about finding those opportunities to stay consistent to really stay connected in those small tangible ways and mlc really accepting that it’s okay that you know your relationship has changed the amount of time might be able to have to devote to one another Soul has changed I’m not true but you can actually take all that and evolve it into something in a lot of cases that really goes much deeper than that you know because now it’s it’s amazing you know you have this this connection and you know going through motherhood and Emma strikes that that gives you time to actually be able to take that foundation and that strength and that those nurturing abilities and that expression being able to use that with your partner in your relationship I’m having that Foundation really can make me very powerful in a way that’s unexpected just as amazing as you always bring it back to the fundamentals of the practices this is not all hot air to talk about it tell about doing it doing the work and I just feel like it makes me think that I can think of I mean I know some couples will have the foresight to at least make prenuptial agreement but I can’t think of anyone who they actually said we are going to go through the most insane trans transformation of everything we know we can if its first time parents who have no clue what to expect and they and what if they were to get these to be the eye of a storm throughout anyting that’s the Abbey unless Ty gazing the synchronized breathing you can’t touch that space with anything so but but pure Bliss and whatever does need to get work through if it’s done in that space it’s going to be conscious it’s going to be a constructive and it’s going to be a firming so I feel like it’s the what I’m hearing you say and what diarrhea firm is two people listening if you were expecting and you want to keep this container of love together and ever strengthening then start doing his practices now and know that you’re going to really rely on them it’s going to be life-and-death okay we’re just going there so I can breed all right like can’t we just do that let’s just do that next week or let’s just all of that I mean once you start doing it and engaging and you feel that present in your body and the Net Connection you have to just trust that all of that and all of that adds up and all of that makes a difference in your relationship every moment of that that time that you have on to be able to connect in that way as powerful well thank you again for bringing it back to to those core practices again you could have a lot of compliments sure there’s a million complicated bits of advice that people could give for this but this is so practical and and I just I dare people could really do it in and I don’t think you can fail you know I don’t think it’s possible to fail if you have good intentions and you do the scratches so yeah so we were getting also to your kind of making a perfect segue to the next question which is more more about the the asymmetry of responsibility and Duty specially for breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be carried to full-term and whatnot it’s it’s like there’s such a the mail investment just as how I always make this joke there probably less violence in the world is men had to breastfeed but women actually held the babies in their room still so imagine that you wouldn’t be off to go into war and using weapons and guns and swords that she had breastfeeding on demand for whatever after 5 years income that would be great that leaves man with such an unfair and balance of freedom and privilege to not be bound to the those tasks so a lot of women are rightfully lamenting this sensitive of the men who are supposed to be there showing up to with the with the mother is hoping for is that yeah he’s going to go to work and put food on the table and make it so I don’t have to work hopefully or I can work you know in a way that I can still be involved in my children’s lives you know for God’s sake you know who something something not just not just the short maternity leave remind me that the CEO of YouTube is a yogini who is Hardcore advocate for way longer maternity leave or something yeah I didn’t know that I’ll send you a link to a video where it where you get to see that she’s actually really badass them she’s a fierce that ass woman who’s awake I have no idea how did you navigate and how do you recommend for women who maybe don’t have is as blessed of a of a beloved Fixer-Upper type type men how do you get them on board with really going the extra mile of of checking in about about the needs a mother you know mother would have if she is being assertive about her knees in about the new suicide where she would like how can you be humbled to her and just be asking and showing up to being serviced that’s a question that’s a really great question and I have to say that I’m really fortunate with Eric because he I mean he has just him and he is just been a tremendous support from the beginning but then at the same time it’s like I also have to do my part with him right of being very clear about I need you no because then it that this always with him you know in the beginning of special rub up against this when he just wouldn’t know you know and I would be just waiting silently expecting something but he wouldn’t really know that that was what exactly I was looking for right because for women it’s like having that ability to breastfeed and nurture and carry this baby. Room I mean just how we have those abilities so readily at hand and we know what we need sometimes it’s hard to say yeah I need this actually it sometimes it’s hard because where we can be so strong you know and we can put off the 15 so strong and like we have everything together and I know that I do that a lot of time where I’m just like yep I’m good I don’t need help I look what I’m doing all by myself I’m doing all these amazing but that really inside I’m like oh my gosh like what am I I can’t do all this by myself and just allowing your partner that opportunity like okay like this is really what I need and this is the support that I need and this is how I feel going through that and not being afraid to say I am overwhelmed right now you know and and can you please and saying this from a place of love right not from a place that judgment and like what are you doing for me and you know resenting that you know you have more freedom than me and Bubba blah and I’m here breastfeeding or whatever it is not doing it from that place but from you know from your center from a place of love like I’m I’m really overwhelmed I need help with this right now you know can you get up be up with a baby now for two hours because I only had 3 hours of sleep last night instead of just silently you know doing in that moment when you feel I mean I I just I know a lot of of moms and a lot of friends who dust will just be like okay well he didn’t you know my partner my spouse he didn’t step up and so I had to do it and then my will but did you say something and they’re like no or maybe they did say something but you know it wasn’t from that place you know of just clear intentional loving vulnerable until. I think that was one of the biggest things for me especially you know when our relationship I’m like okay and then you know my husband tries to tell me like he’s Eichler like he’s like really I want to be able to show up for you like I want to be strong for you I want you to feel good but he’s like I honestly don’t I just need to to hear it I just sometimes I need to be told or I need to be reminded because it doesn’t come as naturally to me and then show me be mindful of that and not you know not falling to being hurtful or resentful something makes me cute different do you know well that’s really really profound that that really gets to the hardest exactly what I’m seeing go wrong inside once at once that slippery slope really hard I mean it’s kids once this thing start to add up then breaking through that you’re really. It’s really snowballing and that’s your thing everything is this Noble thing I’ve seen it yet so that is great advice I think that work that I said the fly to something if x is kind of ridiculous that it reminds me of I remember seeing young young women and whatever middle school or high school and home home economics class and they will be given an assignment to have a baby doll with them for whatever and in that relationship it’s like okay honey we’re going to do what it’s going to feel like for me to be busy and need help from you and you put in your garden that would be funny if it decided to give people that sensitivity at sensitivity training cuz once it’s already ratchet up and then more expenses than what I’m seeing to notice let me know way more than I do but it’s like I don’t think I think people underestimate the cost of of multiple visits to the pediatrician a week you know it’s like figuring out food allergies and decoding the sugar all of the ways that sugar is is is surreptitiously inserted into packaged food and just it’s such a pill battle to be holistic and to be in at all so it’s just this this is all in on top of just I mean most people are just buying everything off the shelf from entertainment to toys to food to diapers and whatever it is it’s all just off the shelf but to have that effect of wanting to do better than the last Generations or to resist the marketing and be more green or whatever that’s a whole another layer of the building so you know it’s just to get more and more complicated and at the end of the day I see the women just getting ran ragged and the dudes just kind of blowing him off sadly to say but if we could he had say that actually kind of Segways a bit to another question which is and this I mean you could you could write a whole book just on this subject alone out so I don’t expect you to to go too far into it but maybe just some off the top of your head pointers and we can move along quick to know we’re getting close on time so so any suggestions for creative and educational and non-toxic toys just a few maybe went to one website or one store just don’t know anything I don’t know if I’d be the best person to ask about that because I not that they have a choice in general just because you know like all the plastic and everything I mean and we like literally their toys are like one corner of our house like a couple of containers and that’s it and they barely even play them to be honest with you I feel like the simpler the better you know I feel like I’m all about like art you know art projects you know the pain and the crayons and all the art supplies and things like that so that they can enhance their minds and use their hands that way and explore that way they’re into that but I found that you know the purchases that I made with toys throughout the years it’s like that use it and then they’re done and that’s like a big hunk of plastic sitting there are biodegradable and Wooden Spoons and then they’d be busy for 2 or 3 hours you know that they have gotten that I get them they’re like okay and then they open it and then they look at it for 10 minutes and then I end up you know it’s just a way so yes so we do more we like to do more stuff you know in nature I mean they like to play you know what they say they love gospel they love being outdoors they love Ari and they love puzzles and things like that so that’s why I hope that I hope and pray that we will all have abundant opportunities to being healthy natural environments and have plenty of more outdoor time the better cuz there’s some nature is like endless you know just being outside they’re like so fascinated by every little thing the backyard I don’t know it exactly how I like how did the people survived all of those many years ago without these big pieces of plastic and well that is exactly what I thought I hope to hear in and a very firm it if so this is another test of the last one here is probably the the most kind of universal so I don’t know if there is an answer to this question however I died would like to spend I would like to spend my golden years doing a lot more anthropological research on on foraging sigala Terry and societies before you spell hunter-gatherer societies who have basically none of the the neurotic issues that people in the modern world have and and I love to know I would like to believe that there is that there was a golden age of human Innocents where the terrible twos didn’t exist and then that we could decode that and figure out what is it more nurturing Less Talk toxins I mean is it just that there’s so much overstimulation and so many maybe you’re actually able to perceive carcinogens at that age and then you stopped being able to and that’s why I mean it could be anything less or I could just sent them know something very out of balance that’s just modern so I’m just wondering if you have if you were really idealistic about know I’m going to teach there going to be a master Yogi’s by the age of one so that the terrible twos happen though I already beat exam enough I don’t know why you if you were like I don’t know like tell me what that’s been like for you and then if you have advice for people who are in that approaching that Horizon will for me I really I really just try to go with the flow you know just so I’ll talk to style just like accepting every part of it I was just part of the the beautiful messy process of development and growth and exploration and sometimes I do know because otherwise then it’s just become so hard you know what I’m saying because you expect it is you’re going to have meltdowns right it’s not it’s not going to be easy is there at like going to be some very tough days especially in the beginning if it’s going to be hard you feel like what what am I what did I get myself into one of my hairdo evaporate the next moment you know you’re going to feel the most joy and Bliss and happiness that you ever felt like wow that’s amazing that I get to be a part of this process you know that I get to witness this human being growing and developing and it’s it’s just amazing so it’s really you know you know the whole ton truck idea of a flowing through those energy that accepting every moment no matter how chaotic and allowing those emotions and those feelings and those moments to move to you during this challenging time to witness in you know children and young children because it’s like they can like be so happy in one moment and literally within five seconds that can beat me on the floor it’s crazy right it’s like oh my gosh the wide array of emotions from moment to moment and not inhibit that till I I feel like you know it’s like wow for me initially seen that in the beginning and fidget with night was my first one and that you can just move so fluidly like this and just just like that and get so consumed by something else in another moment we just amazing to me so I think we can really take a lot of sign a lot of lessons and just being present at something to a Full Circle closed right now because what I am even before you started to reply that lesson for grown-ups really about about cycling through your full expression and not choking your body is response to a situation out and the full the full body response to a situation I was actually remember me on my phone while I remember a room full of adults it you and Eric’s condo and we were being instructed to behave like children having a tantrum so that we can feel good and actually know the nice that storm there’s like the sun and the blue sky and in the EXO baekhyun the funny faces and doing the monster dance and some just like well you’re probably realizing hits are the times of the exactly yeah it’s it’s pretty amazing to witness is there a word for like reverse parenting or something has got to be a word for the the the from children actually teaching adults what they’re forgetting and I didn’t mean well that’s really it’s a really heartwarming conversation and I feel like the people who are hearing this and who have experienced so much pain and distress that there is such a open source free to use to spend your own time studying it get this book read the book watch Roadies videos I certainly considered to be the highest resource that I like to share with folks because of the same reason they listen before adjusters I don’t feel like there is a knot a snake-oil aspect of what you’re selling and there’s not a sort of a shady ulterior motive saying a gender that I have to worry about and and I just can’t say that about that many people until I’m sure you know and I certainly feel for myself that you know I have I always want to be deferring is often as possible to sort of protect my Integrity to not be the what do they call it like the god cock Shaman is just a narcissistic people’s souls and that’s easy enough to it’s easier to take that route of that that black timeshare manipulate manipulate almost hard not to do it so I mean I’m making and I feel like we are making major effort cuz that’s the complete opposite of what you are and what you and body I mean from the very beginning so yeah no thank you I really feel like you are just I mean somebody who’s just really in there doing that you’re like doing the work you know and you like do it like with an open heart you’re just like in there and you’re talking to everybody and just creating this just really amazing platform. You should be really proud of well thank you again and again I have to say you helped start at all and one of my the first real social proof that I had was that was your gracious licensing of me to share some of the video work that we did together it’s been a blessing that go into detail but all that in that in that previous episode supposed to listen of that and I will say that we we were blessed and burden in this in this time of this episode to take to cover a good intro to the book and also to open this discussion about time to Parenting I definitely want to set the intention that in the future we will give more of a of a deep dive into your personal background and it sort of will let that be a cliffhanger to hear about your experiences early introduction of Tantra and just kind of the got your path of building that confidence and certainly the form give experience Syfy oh my God it all yeah we haven’t got into your filmography either still be there next time to say this for next time to talk about birth because yes I mean not as deep and my experience naturally delivering and doing it with Tantra as my Foundation is the only way that I said I survived it and actually enjoyed it. Arrington have the complete box set free thank you so much thank you so much for having me it was really great and most richest time in in a moment to to share this Basin and certainly yeah it’s it’s a got it just give you a big big bow down because this you were the one who helped me start this this whole journey I don’t know I don’t know who I’d be or where I’d be doing it if we didn’t have a Meeting of Minds you know so yeah I can’t believe I forgot to say this I mean you were seriously you were the first one who discovered my website you were the first one who reached out to me and one of the first that I’ve actually I will say the first that I taught that I didn’t know because I had started already like teaching but like you know friends and friends of friends but you were the first clean one like the first student I was like oh wow yeah that that walked in and like was the beginning of really that Journey so thank you I did not know that I did not realize that that that’s funny so funny I can’t believe I never told you that that’s very well so everybody just like get over your awkwardness and just represent just like bring your egg and no matter what things will come out you know it’ll all fall in place to get back to the Sam and yeah I give them my love and thank them for allowing you to to do the book and for all of the people who parted the sea so that you could get that book done and then provide provide that to us and so much more thank you I know it I just want to say thank you so much for Amy what you just what you spoke about earlier just blew me away how you been stepping up to support women and you know what your mother’s I mean you are really holding for me to space there and this is really something that you know I know that would indeed and you know a lot of them have been longing for so thank you so much for for being that person and for filling that role cuz it’s just amazing the work that you’ve been doing all these years I thank you you planning to see each other that they were they say that it’s the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree at least in the sense of the guru to train me to be a womanizing pick up artist in the name of conscience so I guess that’s why we you know gravitated toward each other There Was You know. The little like energy so I think I don’t think you would have found that path that was not your will thank you so much again yeah so much so much good vibes and good times and we will be in touch soon and and best of luck with all of your your your book emotional adventurous okay great thank you so much fun. Country Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple provide ketologic employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Township Park. Com Thomas gay

Responsible Psychedelic Sexuality with Leia Friedman and Matt Hollander TPP168

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In this episode I’m joined by a lovely couple for a round table discussion on responsible psychedelic sexuality.

We discuss:

  • our personal approaches to consenting psychedelic self pleasuring practices with ourselves
  • how and when psychedelics and other sacred plants are appropriate for them in their relationship
  • the shadow of alcohol and hard drugs
  • patterns of unconscious sexuality of the punk movement
  • sexuality in the neo-hippie subculture
  • the shadow of guru worship
  • cults around spiritual leaders
  • student/teacher sexual dynamics
  • exploitation of followers
  • predatory behavior patterns in ayahuasca communities
  • the dangers of free love
  • ego and peer pressure
  • corruption of those taking money for sexual healing or spiritual guidance
  • patient/client dating time delay requirements
  • examples in other professional sectors of ethics and code of conduct standards
  • sexual political economy
  • boundaries around involving state authorities in restorative justice
  • Psychedelic Patriarchy video
  • incident denial when survivors come out
  • creating supportive space
  • reporting incidents of abuse by emailing: hello [at] psychedelicwomen.com
  • the role of trained mediators
  • can sociopaths be rehabilitated?
  • calling out celebrities
  • accountability, hide or be accountable
  • admitting when wrong
  • the no more hiding now project
  • the logic and morality of triage in emergency response
  • standard operating procedures trained and drilled as a form of preparedness
  • sharing tools for building incident response social infrastructure
  • grey areas of consent
  • potential for redemption of perpetrators through service work
  • personal hard lessons with sexual misconduct
  • functional and dysfunctional investigations
  • gossip, drama, telephone games
  • appropriate scrutiny of public figures
  • compassion for those who’ve fallen from grace
  • the shadow of shunning and displacing perps
  • harm reduction, success stories
  • shamanic ceremonial healing for perps and ex-cons
  • when survivors aren’t ready to bring it to light
  • how people take sides, defend perps, and subvert advocates
  • asking the victim what they need
  • not assuming you know how/when you should apologies
  • consent in the process of justice
  • How Psychedelics Informed My Sex Life and Sex Work by Annie Sprinkle:

About Leia:
Leia Friedman, M.S. is a teacher, writer, and connectress. She is the cofounder of Boston Entheogenic Network, host of the podcast “The Psychedologist: consciousness positive radio,” the integration resource list volunteer coordinator for MAPS, and a permaculturalist. Her work focuses on phenomena related to the human experience of consciousness through the lens of social and environmental justice. Leia is exploring ways to bridge the diverse and multidimensional intersections of psychedelics and ecology while residing at Happy Acres Farm in Sherman, CT.

About Matt:
Matt hollander is one of the founders of BEN the boston entheogenic network, a psychonaut and the singer of the boston hardcore punk band ancient filth. He is interested in the intersection of radical politics psychedelics and non duality.

Please check out their projects:
https://thepsychedologist.libsyn.com/
https://www.facebook.com/nomorehidingnow
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bentheogenic/
https://ancientfilth.bandcamp.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 168 this is going to be a very interesting and enlightening episode I’m joined by Leah Friedman who is the psychologist and she is an adjunct professor of psychology a psychedelic Advocate and permaculture list among many other wonderful beautiful and amazing things that we will learn all about shortly and also one of her Partners in in life and in love and his name is Matt Hollander and he is a psycho nut punk rocker opening bands for 15 years currently the frontman of ancient filth is that correct and he’s been booking shows and doing events and also helped start the Boston and Thea genic Network very interested in the intersection of radical politics and Consciousness and freedom of Consciousness so to give a little bit of background before we get all started with this there was a recent psychedelic Symposium conference in Los Angeles and I felt like I normally would be all over attending but I had some some duties I had to attend to and I felt like you know I feel like I may be at a higher point of Leverage to just connect with some of the presenters look at the people representing and see what they’re talking about and then maybe fine folks of interest to invite on the podcast rather than go and and actually be there in person and kind of broke my heart that I wasn’t there but then I just felt like you know something good will come out of it and this I need the results of that was looking into some of the things going on around that around that event and in the movement and I wanted to check in to this phenomenon of there being sort of research and resources around collecting testimonials about sexual misconduct from psychedelic shamanic practitioners whether they be doing a sort of time for type work or sexual healing type work Hands-On work involving some some psychedelic medicines or just people who are in the second ochimana community and their basic Authority and power than maybe you know consciously or unconsciously of using and misusing in sexual ways and Dynamics and certainly just how patriarchy which is the backdrop to everything how that how that infects and Ben poisons even our best intentions in ceremonies and in communities so a lot to how about that is so you know really what we talked about as the shadow work and you know in and sacred sexuality the shadow work is is uncomfortable but necessary to to deal with and also add two cities are the slipperiest of slopes for sure for sure for certain in psychedelic work and in sexual sexually works I’m always thrilled to have conversations that further this discourse and get people who are her passion in about these issues and then I can’t I can’t think these two folks enough for being so and residents with my personal background were talking about my favorite things punk rock and theologians permaculture you know what what more do you need to peel and save so maybe that’s what we should call Us episode but yeah we’re really doing our best here I would say and it’s just been a blessing to connect and we’ve had some fun some fun talks leading up to this and what we’re going to attempt to do is just have a bit of a round table and this is I think the first time I’ve done this and also it’s a blessing because he is going to on her podcast the second ologies podcast is going to rebroadcast or we could even call it like a punk rock style split 7 in released and I favorite kind of thing so so that was my my typical exhaustive intro and now I’m going to turn it over to Leah to address the audience of her podcasts and we’ll give her it to the floor to introduce well usually to start off my episodes I just I have an introduction which they’re all make an introduction before this so everyone on my show just heard the introduction and I go this is bent on truck say hi that’s really all I do So High by and say hi I am my name is Ben Lawson I go by the name Tantra punk as a stage name and I am your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment and you can find out a lot more about what all that means at Central Park. Com where I have a podcast and I create educational instructional videos and sacred trance dance music and I also come from a long history in the punk rock and metal movement and I have been in numerous bands and him sort of reconciling all this stuff in my at my personal life and professional life and I and I would say that to a degree I am a somewhat semi-professional practicing sexual shamanic practitioner with certain credentials to my name of being a certified Tantra counselor Under the Tent request School in San Diego and I’m also a certified permaculture designer and a lot of other Badges of Honor I suppose along the way but I’m doing my best to stay in service and to stay as humble as possible and integrate as much input from other people because we’re really talking about some of the the slippery of slopes doing this kind of work and I’m so I’m here to kind of be roasted in a way I think I’m open to being roast Temp and life and also to just explore all of our different experiences so yeah so what are you mad do you want to talk a bit about yourself and give us more of your background then we can all kind of kick get going at Hollander GTA has been working with anxiety I’ve also been in the punk rock scene in Boston for around the same amount of time to play Radical politics and non-duality and just trying to understand what is the score find my place in this crazy world we live in if your network of Boston group that brings together people from all talk about how do you spell experiences and support and he can go and and talking where do we hear your band ancient filth on music is on on the bandcamp for free to listen to download and yeah I’ll survive lyrics I got the lyrics vs you would be so kind as to step into the matriarch roll for as long as you’d like you can kind of set us up and start to dry out you know what is most present for for you and your thinking around these topics and then you know I feel like we can just go from there if you’re comfortable with that I would think that’d be great, I mean I can lead I don’t think we have to gender it in this case. I’ve been thinking a lot about consent lately and people in the community ourselves building up our ability to understand what is the S and what is know and I think it’s particularly relevant in altered state it’s obviously relevant in sexual play in sexual experiencing even with the self just that idea of giving yourself consent to go on a personal experience is something I may never have considered but I think that is a practice we should all look at so I think any conversation about sexuality and psychedelics especially those two together have to start with consent and I don’t know I mean been like if we want to do this as just kind of a conversation maybe we could start with talking about that maybe we just talking about what it feels like to be neurotic self-exploration on drugs and no one can tell you that you’re not telling the truth you know no one can no one can contend with it if it’s your own private experience so actually last night I would say I just was coming right off of a of a pretty profound Journey myself so maybe I can do a little bit if I can slam poetry how does that sound when should we start from yeah what you’re saying the very very very rude of consent being a very personal personal thing right yeah yeah let’s start with you and then see where that leads to I think you’re a little on are integration why not what could go wrong I’ve been given permission by the the Hindu Tantra goddess Kali to kiss and tell and she’s definitely a very probably type of creature and loves all the other goddesses and what likes to watch me play with other goddesses in the human and non-human forms and whatnot but I always feel like by coming down from mushrooms with your my drug of choice I feel like I having to face the mundane world and get back into traffic and get back into J jobs all that stuff it’s always a step down from the glory of being in Union with worth it yeah they the sexy dark Goddess that that has been invoked in the jungles of throughout India for since time immemorial mean for going back twenty thousand years at least in the archaeological record the indigenous Pagan hunter-gatherers have been celebrating the the Earth mother goddess and and certainly discovering and playing with the erotic forms and really having a lot of magical ritual involved with that so as a as a white boy in the American West and the 21st century it’s you know the way that I’ve encountered her is been quite an adventure and I would say it’s it’s the if if there is one thing I’m here to do its to correct the history in the Indiana Jones Temple of Doom movie where he goes to school he goes to a Kali Temple and they get it all wrong and it’s all backwards cuz instead of liberating children and slaying demons she is the demoness goddess whose enslaving and saving children and corrupting everyone the only thing they did get right about that movie is that and I’ve had to think about it a lot because it is considered by Hindu Orthodox Hindu Kali worshippers who are worshipping a very demure and very domesticated form of the goddess in temples throughout India and then in homes now they’ve stripped a lot of the wild sexual nature away from her but even the most yeah but there’s a huge backlash of that movie amongst amongst them Orthodox Hindu Kali worshippers because it’s so offensive and so I such a colonized view of the Goddess but what’s what’s so what I found so interesting after studying their critique of that movie that film and after watching it again I realize wait a minute there is a deeper truth that they were conveying here without even knowing it and a lot of Kali worship say all is mAh meaning that even the door even the most Sinister things about her inner nature and you know people out there to sociopath psychopath if you’d look at them as teachers and you know at some level they just need to have the demon whisper come in and tickle tickle the demons out of them so that they can be activated into the light and there’s like a deeper love story of transformation that’s involved in this but if you watch that movie again you will notice us deeper deeper critique that they are offering is that the reason this with all went awry and that the thuggee cult emerge to practice you know they were basically thieves who were worshipping the goddess and trying to extract magical powers from her in a perverted and corrupted way doing human sacrifice and now it really was the problem with that whole picture is that it was all male priests and they they wedged the female priestesses out of the Pagan spirituality of psychedelic goddess worship and they replaced it with the Brahmin is stick hierarchical empire building male priest lead only the priests could speak the language and write the words and they they pushed the feminine out of the goddess and can’t even believe what they did but you see it it’s like oh yeah it’s it’s all men doing this Puja ritual where they’re sacrificing people that’s the problem now if I can come back and bring my love story with the goddess to you know eventually bring Harrison Ford to the Kali temple in Laguna Beach for him to bow down and meet the goddess then we can redo that script and and I’ll be happy to continue that Legacy and in the right way and show her and her Grandma Lori said that’s that’s for the best that is divided that I’m rolling off of after being in Union with the guys last night and I don’t know what that means and he has no one but it’s just yeah I’m doing my best to just go with the stream-of-consciousness oh yeah that’s my that’s my contribution to the self-loving Psychedelic critical component of this convo I feel like it’s a great pitch for like a Trippy porn and I think we should roll with it if it was a joke but it was Indiana Jones and the Temple of poon ticket downtown okay I need to shut up now please next to the same thing and maybe you want to share what were you thinking I did I just have an amazing experience on LSD and MDMA where I was I was there to pleasure it and can you tell us more cat sounds like you’re going to MIT you’re going to do a remake of Stargate with Kurt Russell definitely made my mouth 35th and having the world come all over my face a giant waterfall they don’t call it the Milky Way for nothing right yeah I said once someone and someone ask me actually Rak razam who is highly esteem shamanic facilitator and documentarian end in a conversation about this kind of stuff that we had in the previous podcast know he asked me once he’s like how do you know that Kylie is not a demon how do you know that she’s not disguised in some way and I’m like well the proof’s in the pudding man I mean it’s the samadhi the Bliss that you didn’t you just you feel like you’re on the spin cycle in the cosmic Yoni and you know you feel is so all right how are you so are we ready for Lissa testimonial confessions I hope a lot of Catholic listening in the confession Booth of it’s like the opposite of profane as it gets when it comes to psychedelic trippy and Wild As It Gets for me is I just completely become a plant and I don’t know maybe plants they must have sexual feelings actually with those beautiful flowers that they produce to get bees and pollinators to come inside and pickle them and gather their Harris Teeter their dust or whatever but I haven’t had much sexual fantasy in trip but I know that you know I’ve I’ve struggled I have thrived I mean I’ve gone through my entire life with body dysmorphia and this is like some of my oldest memories of being in a body are dysmorphic of kind of like a wrenched image of myself in this form and when I took LSD for the first time and most times that I’ve taken it afterward I had a sense of being like free and and yet like inhabiting and grounded in my body if that makes sense like being free from it but also like being bully in it and I have worked with that sense because this is what I think is unique in that empty a genic or the altered Consciousness experiences like the ability to access that state of thinking afterward is only just as remembering what it felt like to be that way you can’t necessarily call it in all the time but it’s like the the roads are the roads have been traveled once before I like the the neuronal pathways have at least been touched and so tapping back into that I’ve had a lot of sexual Liberation do do psychedelic experiences of of inhabiting my for more of like of the embodiment so that that’s what I would say to the point I think it is my ability to receive and to be in pleasure comfortably has definitely been helped by psychedelics that’s very interesting and you have a psychology background so I feel like it’s sacrilege to even invoked his name but because you’re a psychologist you would be very familiar with this like what what I hear you describing his brain gives me flashbacks to the brief study of Freud that I had to do in anthropology it was like kind of a sidebar in that in that training but I remember distinctly and it’s kind of triggered by what you’re saying this you know there’s there’s not a whole lot honestly that I agree with you about his is DC to species but one thing that does ring true to me is that notion that sexuality begins before puberty and it’s about just pleasure in the body and how you discover that like I used to play with my belly button and it used to just give me the surges of of overwhelming arrows that no one around me could figure out but it didn’t seem you know cut the logical just seemed like a is better than cartoons why not in that would be a form of self-expression and discovery of a Rosetti that kind of like you’re saying if you know the money. She doesn’t have to be genital Focus doesn’t have to be about friction fucking with somebody or something and can be about inhabiting and feeling deeply into the sensuousness of your whole being and that sounds like a great a great kind of approach to it is that is that ring a bell for you and we want to go off of that with your bring it into the lens of psychology osher yeah well I do think that as that we are sexual beings from the beginning and end part of part of our sexuality I think of a place by the cultural climate that were raised in and what most of which is sex negative unless you’re in some kind of countercultural family or our you’re just not as much as I think to be encouraged to discover and self pleasure yourself or like sexual play among children is almost always frowned upon and and preventing I’m not necessarily advocating for that because there’s like a Content issue again kind of go back to it but then again when gauging in sexual play with little friends that I had when I was five six little other little girls and little boys and or like to close do you know that I understood my boundaries enough to only do things that felt comfortable to me but I think what you’re asking about the experiencing of pleasure I think like there’s a there’s all these different droppers to pleasure for me there can be right like being in a place that but doesn’t feel like the right setting for her pleasure that kind of like Stoppers my ability to experience it or list of things on my mind that I have to attend to like gets in the way of feeling turned on above Like Loving what’s going on and then another thing that would get in the way is body dysmorphia so to be able to access the sense of embodiment with Timmy with useful sexually because allow me to like unstopper the flow of treasury note the to take off the reducing valve for the the sensations that are possible your asthma is sexual partner not feel free to us well that question as soon as we’ve been together and we’ve been exploring a lot of these issues of the you know definitely let you know cuz I you know I think you know like I know most amazing thing in the world and I and so it’s really amazing to be able to you know do you know gorgeous and and really help them come into their body and it’s just it’s such an amazing thing for both of us to experience something like that and do you know but anyway. So you don’t even need a permit you don’t need a license what’s the powerful sex worker goddesses that I’ve ever met she is such a a heroin to me in one of the things that she said which is so apropos this conversation is that she would like to say this the sort of bit of wisdom she had and she basically said you know you can it’s legal for you to go down to a gun shop and buy a gun but you can’t buy my pussy that’s how powerful my pussy is you can buy something but if you go to the Hampshire pretty soon you’re going to be able to buy both with your favorite cryptocurrency so I know that’s funny letter fireworks from liquor stores that are you staying out of that is so great I am so there I’ve had I’ve had enough with everything I just said and I even thought of how it would be nice I like what you said this is important to to know what you said about you we do need those winter months to actually heal and until it’s I feel like the people are running on such hyperdrive in LA because there aren’t it feels like there’s really no season so there’s no introspection there’s no self-reflection there’s no getting close with the family or with the Beloved at it with the land you know being a part of those Cycles so I really do feel like I probably I probably fall in love so much that I won’t care to leave so even if it’s freezing cold because I’ll be around the campfire you know I’ll be around if you know this the the wood stove or whatever maybe so I know it’s gorgeous and it’s so cute really you’re the season Majestic earlier today and not because of smog smog 6% Caucasian but that was a bit of a culture shock for sure Caucasian it turned out which is which also further to the stigma of the same kind of like if there is such a thing as middle class in Hollywood now I feel driving I guess it depends on who’s driving I got there in four and a half but you can get all of the action all of the food everything I could to make sense to to be posted up legally in New Hampshire for so many reasons and then I can imagine it I kind of imagined that it would be the Vegas or or like you’re saying but I’m surprised that there isn’t a more of a booming adult Production Studio house industry given that you could it’s it’s bad. It sounds like it’s about as far as away is Vegas and everyone fled to Vegas when the the kind of life started taking enforceable effects in the LA County area so that’s a question I have for you is it you know if you’ve been following the the regulation around and this sort of the big money the big money clinical groups who are trying to shut down the street on the health but with the health department as a sort of there their battering ram into the industry I’m curious in New Hampshire are they is it is there any specifications from the health department or health code that that are trying to set the rules for the industry for the porn industry there it is it is the Wild Wild West out here we are more people more to join you know start producing they would have to try to regulate but I don’t know if they would because I really don’t think they would I adhere to the same you know guidelines as as far as testing goes the only difference is I need to get tested we we provide them with testing we make sure everyone we we go through this last we have this very detailed checklist I think it was inspired by Nikki Benz and if possible the only difference is we’re not paying Los Angeles or Las Vegas free small company but you know we talked about splitting, according Talent from Vegas and Los Angeles and you know kind of responsibility regulating type of business you just have to have trust that all people are you know I’m doing the right thing around that is because yeah I think that I think like Outlets sexually here you know I said you know if you will actually liberated place like you know I even thought about you some Leaf peeping directed in the professional studio shoot up or down with your spouse just that sounds like a great guy honestly before you even were saying this stuff I could I was just it was a premonition that you would be talking about this because I I just felt like you were going to probably end up working in some capacity with the Chamber of Commerce of wherever whatever region or whatever sort of municipality or me to Sally’s and actually help that like what you’re you can’t you know you can’t afford your Public Works projects you know your new parks are being closed down for whatever reason well here we got the screws it’s going to be amazing yeah I can see it now and start building and I’m almost filling my gas tank to start driving out there right now I can of gas its people have been wanting you know it’s been it’s been on my not just a to-do list but actually really it’s it’s it’s the lot a lot of the stuff is is I can see it happening and also I I I want to if it’s not already being taken for some other obviously a worthy cause I feel like the love Free or Die state is going to be the hashtag that I talk to Subway to get a handle on that it’s all you it’s you if you can take that and run with it if she if it works but I feel like that’s good it’s the best I feel like you have a lot of love but I like a lot of love yeah I know I feel it I feel I feel you said you were a Healer and you seem you seem like very empathetic yeah this won’t this to me you know all of the trauma that I have witnessed that I’ve experienced ice I can imagine that this is would be a place for people that veteran died literally I mean you know they call it in the adult industry we say that you’re a civilian if you’re not in front of you in if you’re not in front of the camera and doing the stuff for on the street or wherever you’re a civilian and so if that’s the case which I really truly believe it is then we need to have VA programs in hospitals in a note and benefits and we’re doing a public service for helping living out everyone’s fantasies for them if they don’t have the courage or the resources to make them happen so for that I like to be treated with this much if not you know as much love and respect and dignity and resources as veterans violence and brutality in Warfare civilians is military yeah that’s cool yeah and we aren’t we aren’t we know we were lying about reliving some sort of childhood, it wasn’t about servitude or Surrender sometimes it was just the process to the session would be the process to get to the Aftercare to get to that hug to get to that approval of being told you did a good job you know and when I realize that I thought there’s so much more I’ve actually I’ve had plenty of clients for a while there it was kind of weird they were widows widowers their wearers like I was attacking little words that were in various ways and people don’t understand that Sexual Energy can be incredibly therapeutic and healing you know when there’s something fundamentally wrong with that especially you know I mean now I mean Dairy mention you know I mean every day and I just kept having these handmade in handmaid’s tale things going through my mind and and now to be apart of Swap and to be keto on the inside track knowing what’s going on with this legislation here to decriminalize effort I am filled with hope and love all over again no more despair or fear I feel like this could really I meant to be alive right now at this time and to be here and now in this state I feel very very honored and lucky absolutely why I feel very honored and lucky that we are having this conversation you were exactly the voice of the representative that I wanted to find and connect with its in this is really an amazing amazing invigorating conversation and I just I just want to thank you again so much and you know we’ve got a little bit of time left I think we covered most of what I was super excited and looking forward to discussing I guess I would like to ask if you want to talk about the kind of support that you need from people in the area from people abroad people anywhere in the world listening to this but what what do you need to help your chapter really get to the to the point where were you have all your dreams are coming true and you know you have the people power and the skill sets what were you what are your pain points and what do you need so that that can just be put out there and it is a prayer absolutely absolutely awesome and I’m sex worker Outreach project is a nonprofit we do accept donations we accept recurring donations donations I mean just to be an ally to a sex worker to be supportive and you know aware that their work is real work and emotionally laboring work to know the sex work as a form of emotional and physical labor and that nobody story is is representative of all sex where you know and I think that the presence of sex workers in social movement come together and try to fight this and you have to fight what gone but it is a tubal refuse up sex workers bank accounts and it’s happened the money seems suspicious that’s unacceptable yeah yeah that’s you that’s the way to to bypass So Many Factors whether it’s the pimp violence or the banks or the state or even Amazon not wanting your wishlist to be you know used for compensation whatever it is the terms that you have to been in bed will I have to say that the my biggest public service announcement for anybody that might be in your network who listens to this is that I really hope that anyone listening who is a sex worker who has the u.s. exposed to these Financial choke point issues invest time in studying the whole cryptocurrency movement starting with Bitcoin and in aetherium but but you can accelerate that process if you start to look into joining the platform of spankchain which is bringing together all of the activism all of the the really Advanced cryptocurrency solutions for being your own bank literally being your own bank where you have peer-to-peer Financial transactions you can sell they will be yeah they will be providing a lot of solutions for the industry and for the producers and performers to be empowered independently and off the rails of the money system we don’t need to do our dirty work without your dirty Fiat is how I feel McGregor’s Outreach project we have like a meme donation thing you can donate cooked difference NFL Karma Dakshin and and how how sex workers are the difference between trafficking educate yourself some people have been looking for what seems like an ideal future to me or all of the the glory and the beauty of the healing in the transformation that is possible and also the the sort of in the streets marches and the activism going to take to get there and a couple of I guess you’re silly but up at the memes have come to me and one is it you know people I remember chanting in the streets protesting Wars and logging and you all kinds of pollution would not the people we would always chant whose streets are our streets and I can hear this echoing Cruise sheets are seeds coming out with our seats and then you can also got allies and civilians involved right thing that ever since I started looking into it swapped but I’ve ever felt like we’ll all of the the Financial Funding necessary to do real political work lobbying in legislation and all that stuff I feel like there’s got to be a way to solicit the the buyers of sex work the purchasers of the material that the funeral of the client’s right of the clients are you so mean maybe PornHub can put a donate button to swap you know somewhere I mean set stuff like that I would love to see the financing for all of the stuff that you have in your bucket list of dreams to make come true for this industry and for this movement that that the money if the people who can afford to pay for their further their fetish or for their experience or for their media everybody and you know what I mean I come from the the green business Eco business startup kind of seen in in LA and it was a no-brainer that you would want to launch your startup having a dollar of every purchase or a percentage of your purpose so that you could have the the pr potential of putting out press releases were you talk about how you give back as a social impact or I mean even PornHub has done a lot of cool stuff like that and I don’t mean to keep harping on them but because they’re the biggest conglomerate really that the industry absolutely and you know that they’re behind them right that I was either going to let my contact continue to be over there in cream to the channel myself because it because you know we can continue and have more follow-ups to this conversation but I certainly would love to explore some of your insights in the industry and I have some yes yeah I wanted to add you know how that Whole Foods you know if you have to you have to be a squeaky wheel gets the grease and House of weird that you were is this is thrilling to me I know that there’s a there’s worse things in the world than having pornstars solicit you on your doorstep like door-to-door canvassing for help me on Monday to take your singing telegrams you know what the my name is you could use the conservative rhetoric against him and say we’re here to clean up the adult industry sign here and give us a check what do you mean well I know where else next workers never would never when they used to pack meat and the muckrakers had to blow the whistle and that’s how we have ratio any conservative how do I I subscribed to say the r word regulation but I will say any sort of public outcry about working conditions that’s all we need you know and Industry within the industry of people like you who know what performers need what the issues are and can represent that and it’s not coming top down it’s not coming from you know sideswiping from weird organizations with too much money trying to push agendas where they don’t belong and some people know what I’m talking about there and some people don’t but it’s what they did with the keywords you know trafficking of course people wanted to sign off on that piece of aeon I support you know anti-trafficking laws of course I do and so what we could do is we could eat give them a dose of their own medicine like you said hi we’re going to clean up your industry and fine hair like that cuz that’s how they do so many things when they say you know that people don’t read the fine print when they when they sign initiatives to get on the ballot you know they read the sort of sensationalist headline that skews the facts to some moral kind of you get boxed in Morley by the by the by the headline of whatever it is and so that it’s it’s like appealing to logical fallacies for anyone to want to do that but yeah I mean this is really it’s actually truly the holiest and most most sort of medic there’s there’s a way for all of the people to I mean excellent performers have the legal space to do this right then then the medical aspect will I think it’s going to naturally organically become a safer environment if you’re not having to be underground in the hide from you know the the filming commission and fucking cops and at the neighbors and you could actually have facilities that work up Captain staff and you know and fungus were like just clean to the places I mean that’s what people say about the all of those secondary crime things that go along with Vice and things being underground and the black market economy you know if when you when you legalize drugs all of those secondary cramps go away and so this is a war on sex and we need to end the war on drugs and the war on sex and these problems will sell themselves in the free market so it’s going to happen New Hampshire you know get ready full medical benefits of cannabis right and I’m actually is for you I think what will happen is that is that is that the Cheeto person will get a reverse gangbang by a bunch of Tantra see the goddess and he will want to transform United States into one giant orgiastic goddess Temple to heal the planet from all the patriarchy that’s my that’s my vote I’m going to put that are you trying to turn me on now I try I try not to but sometimes I can’t help it it just happens thank you for that well yeah so we it’s been one of the most delightful hours of my life at sharing this time with you and I’d like to ask you now to give us the links to everything that you want to share and that you’re involved with and close this out with some final words calls-to-action slogans from the front lines whatever you like to share please take your time. Thank you it’s been an honor and I’m I’m I’m pretty sure my cheeks are going to hurt from smiling too so that’s as wot USA. O r g basically you where you can find me I just would like to do everything I can and vegetation Security building in Albuquerque beautiful thank you awesome alright I see well yeah let’s let’s call it a podcast and let’s be in touch and I will I will be in touch again very soon thank you so much and have a wonderful evening. Smiley and you’re coming over here thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

The Future of Crypto-Anarchy and Techno-Shamanism with Vin Armani TPP141

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In this episode I’m joined once again by the illustrious crypto savage and pro gigolo extraordinaire Vin Armani. In the year since our first conversation about hacking the sex industry as a sacred sex worker and initiated tantric shaman, I’ve devoted myself to studying his path (best outlined in his book Tao of the Gigolo) and tuning into his weekly live show.

For years I had been a fan of the crypto movement but wasn’t  directly involved. The powerful insight and urgency that Vin provides motivated me to finally begin to participate, and for that I owe him my deepest gratitude. I’ve done my best to rapidly accelerate my crypto studies to prepare for this epic exploration with Vin into the cypherpunk and crypto anarchist roots of Bitcoin.

We go over both the Crypto Anarchist Manifesto and A Cypherpunk’s Manifesto to set the table for a discourse on psychedelics, techno-shamanism, sci-fi hero archetypes, bitcoin politics, and visionary futurism.

As a long-time hacker, computer programmer, and web developer, Vin has been perfectly positioned to disrupt not only legacy banking systems, but also the cryptocurrency industry itself with his radically elegant SMS based Bitcoin Cash solution CoinText.io As founder, CTO, and lead developer, Vin explains how he plans to launch and roll out this project world-wide.

We discuss the roles he intends to play by officially joining the Free State Project in New Hampshire in the coming weeks. In addition to his crypto leadership,  he’ll be bringing years of experience in the Las Vegas escort industry and his notoriety from starring in the Showtime reality show Gigolos to the politics of sexual freedom in what we affectionately refer to as “Love Free Or Die” state.

We close with many hopeful and optimistic predictions for a successful return to ecological harmony on earth and for responsible galactic exploration as the human technological adventure continues to unfold in space-time.

Please visit Vin’s website at http://vinarmani.com/

And enjoy his mixes at: https://soundcloud.com/vinarmani

About Vin:
Vin Armani is a philosopher, serial tech entrepreneur, and CryptoSavage. He is the host of The Vin Armani Show on Activist Post. In addition to being an author and speaker, he has made his living as a television star, film producer, high-end male escort, software developer, art gallerist, pirate radio station operator, DJ, music producer, and motorcycle courier. He studied Philosophy at Howard University.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 141 I’m being joined Again by the illustrious Vin Armani who we spoke almost August about a year ago before talking about being a pro Gigolo and hacking the sex industry event has been a prominent figure in mainstream entertainment media is one of the stars of the Gigolos Showtime reality ducky drama series that was on for about six years and also the author of an amazing book called out of the gigolo which if you read LG kundo and your Bruce Lee fan or a fan of just the spiritual Arts the martial arts you really need to immerse yourself into this Treatise on the Living Arts which who better than from a man who is achieved so much success with an ethical and moral high standard of success what every boy and man dreams to achieve which is really truly not the conquest of women but the integration of the beauty of women deeper level and this is a man who truly loves women so men women parents please Avail yourself of that book. Of The Gigolo I eventually we’ll probably just have boxes of it in my trunk catches pass it out because this is something I wish I had read and that I had access to when I was just becoming a man and I will say that you know the best thing I could say as a word as words of praise for van is just that you bring it all together man you are seriously an authentic you were walking the path of a of a super heroic archetype and it Blends inflows and is resonant with all of your endeavors that I am you know that I’m aware of that I’m watching and it’s like it makes me think a lot about growing up in and having these amazing powers full sci-fi spiritual Warrior Heroes on the Silver Screen you know and they really built me all of those stories to Philip K dick the the William Gibson all of the mythologies were played out what he’s been missing characters but I didn’t feel like they ever really carry that through to the real life and they were representing those politics of Liberation in the real lives but you were someone who does that and it’s just a thrill so really anybody listening please we have a a a champion of some really amazing powerful and beautiful causes and you know us not to put you on a pedestal or make you seem to be perfect or without any flies but it is just an omage and so yeah with that said we kind of did yeah we kind of got your back on your personal history in the last episode so so we’re going to just jump right into the topic which is broadly we’re going to look into crypto Anarchist philosophy as I have got more into crypto thanks to you and Jack spearco first and foremost thank you so much for that and yeah just to give you it to balance it out to give you some space before we get into this these Seminole text of the crypto Anarchist Manifesto and the cypherpunk manifesto you wanted to check in with this tell us what’s up and how you doing and how you’re sure will first off I want to say thank you very much for that that intro of course you know my mind my own ego I’ve I’ve it’s really been a a journey for me to put aside my own ego over the past decade for sure but I have to tell you that those same influences that influence you were the ones that influenced me and it’s funny that the author is in the books that you that you listed off even there in the intro I was like yep yep yep of those are at those were all massive influences on me and I guess I just never thought that it could that I couldn’t use those as examples in that I am that I couldn’t live that sort of life and always I guess maybe I I’m pretty. I’m pretty tough on myself for better or worse but I always thought those were always the archetypes that I wanted to live up to an end truly embody and so I’m trying man I’m trying but I will tell you that every step that I have taken where I’ve done what was right as I posted according to those archetypes in according to those examples when I’ve done what was what was right even if it even if it was something that was outlandish and and that maybe people said was unrealistic every single time it is paid off for me so if I can just continue to you no share that message with people whenever someone approaches me or contact me from afar and says that something that I’ve done just by living by example has made a difference in their life that totally makes it worth it for me on on every next step and I have so many next step so I mean I think we’re going to talk about the things that I’m getting into now but they definitely do feel the weirdest part about it is that the things that I’m doing now in cryptocurrency in and sort of the libertarian sphere although I think that’s a box that I’m not really ready to fully put my selfie and although I do use the vocabulary just because it’s a dick sometimes it’s expedient and because that is a certain I guess perhaps audience that that could be receptive I think they were talking about something much much deeper here and certainly where I’m coming from is I am trying to be on that hero’s journey while I’m still on this Earth and so if it does All Steel although you know you’re moving from a gigolo to do cryptocurrency to I you know it’s speaking at the libertarian conferences around the world at the Met to some people seem like wow that’s kind of a jump It’s been a a very very smooth and clean and genuine movement of gross for me in moving through those fears and so you know I I bring with me all of the lessons that I indoc you know when those past years and and bring it through in it and now it does feel like things are really coming full circle in and I’m ready to really really manifest some things in the world that’s kind of the reason why I snap to it to to to invite you back on is because I do believe and we are going to get into this that the killer app that we’ve all been waiting for in crypto is quaint extend for a lot of reasons him and so you know one of the things I definitely want to get into probably around the middle of this talk is just something to even kind of put in the the subconscious realm right now for to Tucanes to honest at you I believe are going to be one of the next Eric Vorhees archetypes of hi Sue for hundreds of millions of dollars of valuation in your Enterprises and your your personal wealth and what Vin Armani can and will do with the blue sky budget to turn this world upside down for the better is the most exciting thing on the horizon I know about Soha preciate that I think that’s one thing I have not I haven’t you don’t we’re all so deep in the trenches of of current events and what the the potential Hazard of the crypto movement and all of these sort of event Horizons right and you were one who has the craft dialed in to be able to actually make the sort of global vision boar you can actually turn people into a harmonized vision and and I really would love to hear we’ll get to it you know what love to hear see that canvas of what you see as being possible if and when you achieve that level of of thumb of influence and that level of of wealth to be able to actually roll things out on just almost infinite scale and have them all kind of bootstrap each other so that’s not that’s a that’s a good topic I’d hate to jinx it but I would certainly love talking about Vision whether it’s me or whether it’s someone else I think that to articulate a vision you know when if it’s not me and it’s someone else listening that’s that’s just as good cuz for me it really doesn’t matter who it is because I’m about the vision it’s it’s not it doesn’t have to be me at all smart not hard leverage it get other people to chime in and make things execute you note to a greater picture for sure and yeah awesome cool right so now back to the sort of nuts and bolts of this to really I feel like every time I hear about another high-level government official from law enforcement to regulatory lot riding abandoned their posts with the government to join a crypto Consortium or a blockchain Consortium it’s just a call of the anarchists martyrs are are just cheering in their graves to know that you know the black flag of all of the battles for territory and for sovereignty that have been fought and in lost quite frankly to the tyranny of of physical violence by the state of the material plane we finally through the Ethereal realm of digital technology actually been able to advance and to a point where they’re deserting their posts to join what is the truth machine that you can’t take the truth out of the truth machine it isn’t you know it’s you got to get the truth and the truth started in this movement with the crypto Anarchist Manifesto and I’m going to go ahead and get a kick ass off with that to just chew on for many or so these this is just straight out of the what we’re talking about the Sci-Fi that this is why it’s a feeling to be and white Wi-Fi I’m bummed that it took me so long to discover this but here goes this is sort of the whole kind of fun copy from the cypherpunks mailing lists all star from the top with including the head of the email so from TC met at NETCOM. Com Timothy seemed a subject the crypto Anarchist Manifesto date Sunday November 22nd 1992 cypherpunks of the world several of you at the physical cypherpunks Gathering yesterday and Silicon Valley requested that more of the material passed out in meetings be available electronically to the entire leadership of the cypherpunks list Spooks eavesdroppers and all gold here’s the crypto Anarchist Manifesto I rid of the September 1992 found a meeting it dates back to bid 1988 and was distributed by some like-minded techno anarchists at the crypto 88 conference and then again at the hackers conference that year I later gave talks at hackers on this in 1989 and 1990 are a few things I changed but for historical reasons I’ll just leave it as it is some of the terms may be unfamiliar to you I hope the crypto glossary I distributed will help this should explain all those cryptic rooms in my signature Tim May here goes the crypto Anarchist Manifesto A specter is haunting the modern world the Specter of crypto Anarchy computer technology is on the verge of providing the ability for individuals and groups to communicate and interact with each other in a totally Anonymous manner two persons May exchange messages conduct business and negotiate electronic contracts without ever knowing the true name or legal identity of the other interactions over networks will be untraceable by extensive rerouting of encrypted packets and tamper-proof boxes which Implement cryptographic calls with nearly perfect Assurance against any tampering reputations will be of central importance far more important in dealings than even the credit ratings of today these developments will alter complete me the nature of government regulation is the ability to tax and control economic interactions the ability to keep information secret and will even alter the nature of trust and reputation the technology for this Revolution and it surely will be both a social and economic revolution has existed in theory for the past decade the methods are based upon public key encryption zero-knowledge interactive proof system and various software protocols for interaction authentication and verification the focus has until now been on academic conferences in Europe and the US conference is monitored closely by the National Security Agency but only recently have computer networks and personal computers that team sufficient speed to make the ideas practically realizable and the next 10 years will bring enough additional speed to make the ideas economically feasible and essentially Unstoppable high-speed networks is DM tamper-proof boxes smartcard satellite scoob and transmitters multi M IPS personal computers and encryption chips now under development will be some of the enabling Technologies the state will of course try to slow or halt the spread of this technology citing National Security concerns use of the technology by drug dealers in tax evaders tears of societal disintegration many of these concerns will be valid crypto Anarchy will allow National secrets to be traded freely and will allow Alyssa and stolen materials to be traded an anonymous computerized Market won’t even make possible Everett markets for assassinations and extortion various criminal and foreign elements will be active users of cryptonet but this will not halt the spread of Crypt of Anarchy just as a technology printing altered and reduce the power of medieval guilds and the Social Power structure SO2 will cryptologic methods fundamentally alter the nature of Corporations and of government interference in economic transactions combined with emerging information markets crypto Anarchy will create a liquid market for any and all material which can be put into words and pictures and just as a seemingly minor invention like barbed wire made possible the fencing off of vast ranches and Farms dust altering forever the concept of land and property rights in the frontier West so too will the seemingly minor discovery of an Arcane branch of mathematics come to be the wire clippers which this man the barbed wire around intellectual property arrives you have nothing to lose but your barbed wire fence is the aspect of that that is I think the most profound is how incredibly accurate it’s almost as though a time traveler I mean think about it you go through an every single thing does not want word that isn’t that hasn’t come to fruition every single thing and not only that in chronological order right and it’s so you know you start to wonder in this is you know I joke about I do this hashtag vinster Damas right that it’s like it’s getting to be a joke that like I’ll say something on my show which is one of the reasons why I like having a show is because I can say things and then like 3 months later it happens but it’s not a betting Market a crippled chain things that I’m doing but it’s because when you’ve studied enough about particularly about how individual humans behave and then you get a little bit of history and a little bit of Economics you don’t have to have much but like I’m a history buff and I love studying economics and I you know either I embody sort of the all the traits of psychotherapy particularly as being at you know in my time as an escort it’s like you get to be like down in the trenches really learning what motivates people and particularly what keeps people coming back to talk to you right to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to talk to you you start also learned a lot about yourself in your own motivation I think what’s the deepest aspect of that is it when you have the technology and you see okay here’s this technology and it’s now been placed into the wild even a little bit then you can do a logical progression because there’s really nothing new Under the Sun we might think you know what I love that the analogy of the barbed wire fence and the wire cutters or the printing press and it’s interesting him using that printing press analogy it’s been used again and again now I bite that document I probably first saw in about 1998 cuz I mean I was a hacker at the time right and so that was floating around on bulletin boards and what not you know along with things like the Anarchist Cookbook and whatnot these were all these little things that people were collecting and that they were putting into these compiling as being part of this hacker culture and you know what the time like you say it was Science Fiction it’s like wow this is going to be this is this is crazy science fiction except know it’s a logical progression and the reason why good science fiction works is because it’s believable that this could be the future right I mean William Gibson prime example so in your home answer right that was the first time that he ever use the term cyberspace and I think that as we look at that book in particular and we look at what our fears are of artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence researchers you almost wonder they’ve already William Gibson of course but you almost wonder are they designing to the book or was the book just that much of a of a prophecy that that was the logical progression I mean he wrote a book called virtual light that’s basically the story of Google glass-like the device that’s that’s the fundamental sort of a MacGuffin in that book is this this pair of glasses that you look through and you get augmented reality and I think he wrote that in two or something like that 93 so this is what makes great science fiction good the thing is that now things are moving so fast that when we talk about things that science fiction they could be a year away right right we’ve got you on musk shooting things into space he just yesterday put out this hyperloop video that’s crazy you know he’s boring underneath Los Angeles and it’s like this video looks like something that Dad that would be in a William Gibson novel and yet here’s the here’s of the CGI video of it but it will be a reality in like 5 years so we’re in this weird space like Terence McKenna. I was just going to say yeah right it’s like time-wave zero almost right now he has sped up its bed up to the point where you know it don’t like do we reach the transcendental object at the end of History like how close are we to that it’s an interesting time to be alive and I don’t know when it comes to crypto Anarchy you know for those people who are Anarchist for those people who are libertarian one of the reasons why I am such a forceful advocate for crypto and for bringing people along is that if you’re already there philosophically and you’re not there technologically there’s a problem you’re going to you’re not going to be able to fully manifest what you want to see in the world in your lifetime which is a real possibility if you’ll Embrace this technology exactly yeah you know I can actually dropped it recently on on one of your shows that you were kind of shipping on the deterrence theme about shamans and artists from the future so it’s like you enter into that creative space and you just it just rains on you you know this these glimpses from the future of the Sci-Fi sort of feedback loop is interesting feedback loop between actual future events and then the sort of artists and authors who are predicting them and yeah if you were this is so this is so apt in what’s happening and then you know that the time-wave zero it’s the take home from that from anybody who isn’t familiar with it or anybody who blew it off when 2012 didn’t you know open a violet door into hyperspace you know I think it fucking did your sleep like how could you deny that I sent it with her it was exactly 2012 but like let’s be real like we’re talkin about smartphones in like 2008 Bitcoin in 2009 is like just those two technologies just those two the smartphones have already completely changed the landscape of what it is to be a human being it’s completely changed it that was actually the introduction of cyborgs we are already cyborgs is it going to snow melted with the machine it’s already true take somebody’s take somebody’s iPhone away for a day and see if they don’t start reaching for it in their pocket like a phantom limb like a fiend right oh my God is the semantics of the singularity us becoming a global board hivemind through the internet that is the singularity we are the machine and luckily thanks to this for side of the crypto that you could the Vatican cypherpunks were actually able to own in and really actually in a laboratory manager has the sword is on the steering wheel the power to to actually drive spaceship earth in the direction that we collectively you will see is his for the benefit of some of all of this for or perhaps to stop driving right because this is how I interpret what has had I interpret that the end of the entire Crux of human history until until this point has been us attempting to drive spaceship earth and where we’ve been attempting to drive it is back to source and what source is for us human beings for our particular species what separates hours of our species from every other species is is our capacity for communication and it’s not just our capacity for communication between individuals because there’s a great many species that have that capacity and some of them have it on a much greater scale than we do and that we would then we ever will between individuals but us to communicate across time and across space and that’s as fundamentally what makes humans humans and when we started out as a species we were able to communicate instantly with and face to face and voice to voice and even you touch and to smell and to have a $0.05 communication with every other human being on the planet that first family right however many of the hominids that that were our ancestors that we are all as a species derived from they were able to communicate to every single other human being on the planet and at the moment when that’s that tribe that Clan grew so big that they split apart and one family went you know on a search for more resources because resources were running out or maybe there were they scattered to the winds ever since that time we’ve been trying to find a way to get back to that place to that one family to be able to reach out and touch and smell and and interact with every other human being on the planet and that was a fantasy until in our lifetimes and we are now returning to that point and when we get to that point P I believe that is our Singularity because I believe that’s why restart that’s when we hit the reset button then we become a new species and it’s going to be it is because of the machines and it is because of us integrating ourselves with this technology which by the way is not unnatural it it does not come from an unnatural place it’s it’s manifested from inside of us from inside of our Consciousness it’s it’s abstractions that we have made manifest into the physical world that that wanted to emerge and to merge and so that’s what we’re really dealing with at this point and so what we as a generation in particular and it’s going to be our generation that’s going to either do this right or wrong is we’re making a return to the garden now and the question is are we going to learn from this journey of piloting spaceship earth because now we have a chance to become truly a galactic species that’s our next step are we going take out off of this planet and into the Galaxy are we going to start over as what we can be or are we going to take all an M that means the garden all of those things that we all of those the violence and all the witches in Act of course and it helped us to survive and in that time but it’s due to come to in a new realization in our own Consciousness and in our biology and not to say that we are that it to recognize the shadow right to recognize that that’s there to recognize that this is what we are as a species but to also embrace the idea that as individuals that we can raise our Consciousness in that that’s positive know we have the choice both of those examples have been presented to us throughout history on both sides right of both sides of that and it will we find that balance as we become a galactic species because it’s a foregone conclusion now it’s not a question of if we’re going to the Stars it was a question so we’ve got to decide are we going to carry on the things that aren’t that we needed to survive in this harsh environment but now that we have become especially Gods we become as mythological Gods now that we’ve become as gods are we going to be those warring gods or are we going to be those guys who got their shit together that’s the question I asked you definitely gives you glimpses into civilizations Beyond this galaxy that have figured out the balance of technology and spirituality materialism actually that what just came to mind was it a quote if I can remember it anywhere near the sodality of the original affecting parents ended one of his talks went saying no we will we be Street Smart in the ways of demonic materialism and able to come back to the family farm and eating with that wisdom and certainly if we’re going to go out in space and not leave the Earth is smoldering Cinder like so many dystopic novels then it’s going to take a yeah well so beautiful and so this is already it’s great cuz it’s just weaving itself cuz I wanted to get into the Psychedelic influences and now this is probably a good segue before we get back into another section of a texture I’d like to read the the cypherpunk manifesto to put that just sort of on the record year but to give us a little conclusion here do you want to talk about just sort of some a broad overview of how your psychedelic Explorations and experiences have informed your interfacing with technology and certainly your Inspirations for coding and and just done with a broad topic but since we kind of got into the Terrance space and all that it be great that you know put that now for a bit and then we’ll get back into the sure sure well you know it’s interesting it’s been 25 years since my first psychedelic experience and psychedelics have been a part of my life and a companion companions I should say the various different us Spirits there but they’ve been companions for me throughout and it’s just now that I’m able to start articulating what course I’ve embodied a lot but that I’ve it’s just now maybe in the past few months that I’ve even been able to articulate what influence really that that psychedelic Journey has had on me and I think and some of it has been going back and listening to Terence McKenna that it’s weird because about every five years I will go and try to delve in into to Terrance and I get something new every single time and it what you realize is a while this was a true Master Hood really gone all the way out there and then come back you know what I mean in and so is its there’s there’s great depth but what I realize is and you know I’m realizing more and more now it was getting into the Ayahuasca community that I kept being confronted by people as you know you would share your story on in ceremony and and after and and in just so you know communion with those other people and they would constantly say to me while you’re a shaman you’re a shaman you’re a shaman you know what the things that I was was doing it it never never resonated with me because I never really really really understood that but you know Mirchi eliada has kept coming up over the last year so I went out and got the the his book a classic book on Shamanism in and read that and and Terrence getting into Shamanism and I think they’re really it can affect house and then vice versa and then I know some companies for penis or dildos that they may operate with each other as well so there’s that I’m so for real I think it’s really been I think it’s mostly popular among cameras we are always interested in focusing on relationships intimacy so there is that as a result of the development with held it on for men that was Toys R Us been a bit better but no one’s for for you know that or maybe towards women other people who might like to try something different than a genital to genital contact different types of really interesting as well so so it’s like that old is Onyx or the 268 Patton and it expires after it’s 20 year on this August about not exactly the exact date but it’s about a goddess when it when it expires and so this is really significant because there I’m not sure if your readership is familiar with this project. Tried to get off the ground and you know really small startups that it’s a really interesting things with a couple of things and I’m really pushing for it or you know development but unfortunately because there’s this really wide Haughton but cover is basically sexual communication over the Internet a lot of people have been sued or shut down in there if they’ve had to fight legal battles that you know that are basically you know it’s the cost of the lawyers even if it’s pro bono I like one company like I think it was cold is getting towed when I was getting sick because they were looking for prior art and you know there has been you know the ideal tell the dogs existed before this time I actually was granted however they’ve been successful in suing people and people just cuddling cuz they don’t want to deal with you know all the legal problems that go with it so he was able to get it dropped but having to pee but I don’t think it was a nice process for for the mobile that was not fun and I think they got a new thing I did find a pro bono lawyer in Endor if I had a face match lie angle to remain in the space so it’ll be after this August to see if people are really interested in how old Onyx or if you know if it was kind of holding it and it’ll be interesting to see how it grows I expect more with live timing actually has more campsites have Incorporated chip activated sex toys so sex toys that will that will basically responded to the sound of text so when someone is watching a cam performance that you know they checking and whatever the ticking noises or Whatsapp might change the intensity or what device can do so yeah that’s an exciting thing to look for and there’s that Hypes they’re not really marketed towards my body but I think it’s exciting and I’d like to see more in there I just don’t I’m not sure I’ve heard some people really like it arson but I think that like there’s much more sophisticated Technologies because I think with which is it was very low Fidelity like you all the sexual movements you can make and compared to a without quit that may be a smart dildo or smart Middlesex leaves can do is like you know there’s so much Lost in Translation so keep an eye on for next year well well I guess this makes me think they eventually they’ll probably have some sort of pressurized suit where you could actually just have a regular massage that way you don’t even erotic now is standing but it just seems like things are going to move in that direction anyway of just remote everything in the eyes I was even thinking now you’re saying this if if you were if you were wanting to do this more of a sexual therapeutic thing and you were in if it’s it’s like the it’s been very treacherous the territory of being surrogates and I’m sure the lot of the sex surrogates that have existed since it’s been legal least in the US has to have been in situations that they probably would have much rather had had some sort of mediation device that could actually perform physical manipulation of flesh but we’re not with them having to be right there you know in the room but that you could actually be like in like in some lab Booth where you’re behind the glass but there is a surrogate apparatus or likeness of a human or something that you can speak through with that you can move through and it will be kind of like a like a space suit or something but you’re not interview at those those robots that they put out the work on space stations if you could work on it unless someone sexually LDV and a harmful way and you could actually induce certain forms of somatic Therapies in that that might be even more scalable than trying to find the people brave enough to want to do that stuff cuz yeah I think this will hopefully go in that direction or this everybody will is Hedonism will be counterbalanced by the therapy going to be a big competition for a robot out of tar so that is heard about exercise but it also had funded project to make the first digital tricorder in with a Star Trek tricorder that basically diagnosis in the competition’s on what’s the guys name I forget what a multimillion-dollar basically tries to you know get these robot out of Hearts made it and I didn’t I don’t believe there’s any connection to sex but it’s more to help people in remote locations doctor service is or Nurse Services of course development and Technology happening with money behind it up some big implications for what’s possible all right well this is a whole nother I raised money to do a the first porn in space in are they raised I don’t know some percentage of their goal but that was interesting headline I sell alpaca should I I don’t know that it wasn’t quite there gold but yeah then I haven’t heard anything about whether or not happen but I’m sure it will eventually he’ll be in there and on top of that there was a harness device that would allow for zero gravity so that people could reproduce in space cuz if people thought is like what happens if you start to try to get it on I’m sure that’s enough to try but what if you end up swinging yourself across the space shuttle and then you lose the ejaculate in this is floating in the air NASA has spent sending it has already sperm to space just to basically see all the details but yeah they’re they’re wondering if it’s possible to reduce gravity going to affect reproduction is it going to make it as easy like how is sperm motility yes oh yeah and I mean that people are going to want to call and eyes Mars eventually or it’s not like they want to now so yeah I wonder they sex is coming just don’t know it is coming and no pun intended of well that’s interesting cool then see if we can assume any other so we got to tell the Don X and everybody’s pretty well are there any other innovations that we should be aware of I’m certainly yet I didn’t know there was that patent situation so I’m really kind of in the dark anything at this year please what’s interesting is just how in the last couple years or last year really there’s been just a lot more female lunch printer is coming and so I think that’s great because if you don’t like the pornography that’s out there but like granted it is at the clean a do you know you like a course in something about pornography with sex toys and sex tech products if you don’t marry the thing is is that there haven’t been so many going into it in the past the developers have been mail and she know that’s how that’s how it’s been but you know if you’re craving for that if you’re you know things for women that they haven’t liked so much more talk from an entrepreneur is making products and focusing on women’s pleasure in the in a sex-positive way which is really really important and in that kind of a kind of discussing the orgasm Gap and I don’t know if you know where the workout some tacos but it’s basically different studies that show different types of something like or just had her in sexual encounters I think men for the most part are like nine times out of ten they’re going to have an orgasm and then for women it’s in between one and two thirds of the time they’re going to have an orgasm so I mean it’s not like I always like to say it’s not all about orgasm there’s there’s more to Sexton that but just you know there is where is the discrepancy in and I don’t think there’s been enough focused on women’s pleasure and women focusing on their own pleasure okay because I know what you like and be open to just finding that out and so I’m just a really excited about how there’s this more women and sex text no putting their horses out there and if you don’t like their products which it which I I love products products I’m just saying like you know there’s this stuff there that’s that’s that’s happening it’s a great it’s a great thing to do if I guess right thing I wish there was more of us when I was growing up not sure I would have been if exposed to it because it’s hard to advertise when you are insects taxable I’d say it’s really positive it’s the adult performers sex check which they overlap but then there’s there’s different is that there are more women directors and creating Studios and I think I think that’s that’s great you know I think there’s more diversity the better and so about comes with like books of all backgrounds you know I think that the more people from different walks of life to develop products that are there software you know whatever it is a different really help cut down on the negative sexual things that happens with abuse assault that’s awesome. Do you have any on the platforms and the and we’re not to you that you publish on have you done a series or would you think about doing a series or anyting the chronicle sorted profiling women in insects take or women who are entrepreneurs in the space so that I will be happy thrilled to know more about than just be is that something that that you might do like a specific unit of focus on at some point so we can look into that later International women’s day we had a writer put together a peace sign about I think maybe 11 women in sex tech that you are doing interesting things and I hope we’ve also covered if you act like just serious but we do cover for a lot of different male female I mean he would but I guess they’re not going to find it but we just all genders in between and we’ve covered CEO Polly Rodriguez of Unbound and she’s really great shoes I don’t know if you’ve heard of her but she co-founded the women of sex tech community so she’s based in New York and Unbound is her company and it basically creates products for women and sell products for women’s pleasure and a really like it because it makes you feel good about yourself on their commercialism but you know that market in a way that it just because you know they’re really speaking to a demographics I think has been underserved well is that how Polly co-founded women have sex talking so it’s been like a networking group mostly for ladies who are or women identifying people to talk about problems and getting funny because I mean this is the times I’ve heard differing views and I’m not a funding sometimes and then with women going in there they might get treated a bit weirdly like they don’t really appreciate it or there’s just not as much interest in focusing or investing in Need for women’s pleasure but I think women are the future of sex. Net and we’ll have definitely have articles featuring women who are in it and then I think it’s women of sex tech stuff, and that’s just a bunch of women in sex tech or sex-related online projects that you know you might be interested if you don’t know a lot of women entrepreneurs in the space store in publishing online that’s cool I’m so I was at the crypto invest Summit in Los Angeles recently and there was a women in blockchain panel and there’s a number of there’s a really powerful really amazing women in the blockchain space were organizing and creating a different groupings in and just looking at a think it’s something like I don’t know where anywhere between effort numbers between only 2% of venture funding goes to women in Navy up two at the most like 10% but that’s probably generous so we have a long way to go and that’s that space is so much more I have a lot more hope for for transformation of culture through Venture funding when I do through replacing people on you know positions of authority and Power & politics to let you know that everywhere but I’m not really thrilled to know about that cuz I feel like yeah whatever whatever dystopian futuristic sex text scenarios might happen with really may be corrupted ingredient you know harmfully perverted men if their women in the space of Mino writing proposals and business models in business plans in pitching then hopefully more enlightened more feminist friendly future will be a that was my home okay so you’re moving along to another question so there has been it’s weird I feel like the green the go green kind of Boom it’s it’s almost like I don’t know I want I don’t want to call it a bubble but it seems like I remember in the late in the late 2000 and early 2000s around between 2822 I don’t know what you have wouldn’t wouldn’t say when it stops at any point but it did really kind of get big there was directors of sustainability positions opening up in all these different firms and I’ll and institutions and Recycling and just a sort of Renaissance of of the Earth Day by but it really got up the nerve is everybody wanted to go green and I don’t know if you get the sense of that sort of faded a bit from a Zeitgeist maybe people have gotten just more all about apps and all about smartphones and just like that in that movement and it around Elsa was big with the Inconvenient Truth coming out there and then being a I see a lot of celebrities speaking out about a lot more I think on the other half of the Earth but I’m noticing a gap I don’t know if you have noticed it but I’m curious now if you feel like in the specific unisex take space if there are people who are really coming out saying I hate let’s do this let’s do this development of psychological development for sexuality but let’s do it with certain environmental ethics and protocols in place as far as carbon footprint and as far as you know sustainability and sustainable products and materials and all but I feel like these people are really losing sight of the supply chain of Technology from ecological perspective I don’t know if you have any thoughts on that but for the sex tech industry I don’t think it has a great track record when it comes to sustainable projects or at least not in promoting them I imagine I think that if I had a better track record I hear about it cuz the pr people like to tell you what they’re doing great there is people like lovehoney they’re like and basically trying to make more vegan products so that’s not necessarily that let me hear me say that again like so it’s about regarding like semen safety and then making sure there aren’t animal products in your sex toys and I’m not an expert on that but there has been more discussion about vegan products and then and I think there’s some companies that really promote that is alternatives to leather like some type of a vegan alternative but yeah I don’t I don’t think it has a great track record I haven’t really heard much about it there are some 3D 3D printed 3D printing projects I’ll hear about every once in awhile and what kind of push like I’m an environmentalist point of you sometimes because I’m guessing you’ve heard of Eco sexual arousal stainable 3D printed sex toys that they people can fit themselves and any use out outside historic site right now project was called dildo at yourself idea of you know generally instead of mass producing a million sex toys like one-size-fits-all with 3D printing you know there’s more customizability so that’s that I think 3D printing has but just so you know it’s just because you 3D print something it doesn’t mean you should put it in your 30s to be like a protective coating put on auctions increases the technology gets better you will have to do all this DIY stuff. I got a clitoris 3D printed because there is an open source 3D printing projects to get that. I’m basically just to raise awareness because you know most of the clitoris is internal and people don’t know that and they don’t realize like they see just one little thing about that looks like underneath so I got that I don’t have a 3D printer but I went to something called like three beehives and basically it just links you to people in your area I’m in a very like safe manner I felt that are able to print designs for you and decent cost so I mean back something as well instead of like that can change how business is done because you don’t need to buy your own face 3D printer you there are going to be already are in this going to be more and if so needed to spend all the money you can get somebody else to do this and I don’t think the guy who cares right I want to get princess just a personal services so there’s it’s possible that is really cool I feel like if you could through and I have never thought about that really you know I’m kind of cynical and jaded and in my old old-fashioned but isn’t didn’t really think about how great it would be if there were even somehow edible totally organic totally cruelty-free edible ingredients to take to create these shapes with using machines like that mean I could be something that gives Pizza waiting two years for a part to arrive you can know we have the skin the scheme of anything friendship you know when the anti-globalization movement failed to stop the sort of thumb race to the bottom of wages where the sweatshops of the world with the lowest environmental standards for materials is like all of this plastic stuff that’s being manufactured in sweatshops and then shipped back to the US if the 3D printer can make that entire the bottom dropped out of that market because it’s so cheap as it is but if you could eliminate all of those Logistics by the way you’re saying like a localized distributed open source way to get the same sort of 99 cent store that you have your own 99 cent store in your garage take out that whole corrupted supply chain of international trade that’s really not with what is not healthy for the time but the news like bioprinting and I think people are the really interested in the house applications of of regenerative Technologies and Technologies and I think that there is no try that is possible to create it’s going to be possible at least a crate pills that are for like really targeted for the person so instead of giving like everybody like this is just a standard dosage know some people need different Doses and elderly people are often prescribed medications and so will you just expect another slice of this type of printing it has so many applications that can really enhance like you know what you said you could help get rid of fireman by cutting out all that transport and you know hopefully make fruit quality of life as well as medicine very good very good so I think whoever do with all that stuff a couple questions I have here if we have a few more minutes to get to wrap up I think we covered I was going to ask if you would share some with some women like space but it sounds like we got some good resources for that we laid out and I appreciate that so people can follow up and and look at those and then I guess the met the last question will be if you yourself had a blue sky budget to develop the start-up of your dreams and their futuristic sex text space What would be one of your dream projects if you’ve ever been in a brainstorming about it yeah well it’s a big question I would say yeah I think for for sex tech me to get payment and Publishing done on our own terms and stop Outsourcing like for instance you know trying there’s some people Facebook doesn’t allow any sex advertising or it could be something really likes a fish for work basic it is not like it’s hard to advertise the banks and I’m peanut processors they can just freeze your account and so I think something I mean maybe it wouldn’t be blockchain we would have to develop something but with the Sky High budget I just think that is made for and by the sex tech industry so that we’re not reliant on you know people who don’t have necessarily the intellects Experience open my Nest help a Dolores extech Industries you know so I understand why some companies want to get Facebook eyes but you know I don’t I think that’s just open a can of worms in a bit because it’s what’s good sex what’s bad sex should Facebook me to finding that and just in terms of online publishing a 90% about enchiladas Revenue goes to like Google or Facebook the duopoly so again if you’re publishing picture people are making money but it’s mostly those two people and so I think the way to Circle wait this I don’t think we should be like cow coloring to these big big companies that have all this power but not necessarily open-mindedness and I totally agree with that it’s a huge pain point and Swan that I’ve certainly been let me know what I can say for personal experience I’ve had videos go viral on the more mainstream platforms that I shall not name but the second they really go viral they get deplatformed and that could have been career-changing for me you know if you have to build an audience so maybe it’s funny because Yahoo started out very much a highly trafficked adult almost classified platform if I’m not mistaken but there was there was a sort of kick-starting bootstrapping golden age of adult in the early days of the internet that got quickly sort of extinguish I don’t know why they don’t just have an official vetted adult only access sphere of their own Enterprises even if it’s a subsidiary with a different name or something if they have some distance from you know politically or something but they’re definitely missing out you know I don’t know why they don’t figure out how to make their algorithms could do anything I mean your algorithms good figure out how to only serve with I mean cuz I just wiped out a lot of they demonetized a lot of of content producers who run anything that could possibly be controversial for advertisers but why not just say oh you’re up you’re a right-wing gun that freak you know that whatever will hear is you get all of those ads and Penny Play Say Something for everybody so and I’m not putting that down imma you know that there’s there’s I’m just an example of what some of what gets with what get some persecuted by that but yeah I totally agree with that and I do feel like hopefully blockchain and you know these new permissionless content platforms like steam at for example as a good example publishing platform where you can get paid for your content and they just have a very intuitive there it is checkbox for not NSFW right and that’s it that’s all you need to know self-select I don’t know if it’s the community can can certify a gate but then it doesn’t get deleted it just goes into that not-safe-for-work category in that is all you really need a break myself but yeah that that’s a great a great idea hopefully everything will come to you to help the guy that process and you know actually know if I just have one less thing to put out there since I have you on the line and the folks who are the fans of your work might might get into this I don’t know if this is been done yet I don’t see how it seems like it would be the easiest no-brainer sort of fork of some sort of Open Source Code for a nap but basically you bringing bringing sex tech Down to Earth for my ecosexual perspective that I would love to see there be an app that’s exactly like Airbnb but what it specializes in is connecting people who are like glamping you know but for sex places where you can have sex in nature and go to a place in private property that is a place where you can go and feel free at this like like monetizing private 611 Tantra temples but but at the very least just feel like I’ve got a bunch of land with you know a cabin on it and I would love for people couples or whoever to go out there and have their full moon rituals and not be bothered people gawking at them or you know complaining about it and they can be as you can be as loud as you need to be to really go deep with sexuality which we also do not have the access to seal open up you know what their vocal cords as much as feel free being naked and Nathan Wyld so yeah let’s have an airbag recall are birds and bees like that so cool well hopefully yeah all of our dreams come true here to certainly plenty of plenty of resources being thrown around and now in the crypto Stacy know I’ve never seen so many hundreds of millions of dollars / around the planets online exchanges they never before so they do you know if there’s a will there’s a way let’s get well let’s hope for the best and certainly be optimistic about the potential for anything now yeah cool said you’re going to give your websites and Sandy final closing words anything else before we sign off your podcast cuz I’ve been a fan for a while so it’s nice to be here and you want to check out the site of future of sex. Net we’re just vamping to be a responsive shame I know it took so long but it’s going to look a bit different soon if you are visiting today it’s not responsive just yeah you’re still a sex-positive future dates or anything we should be aware of I definitely can see YouTube easy easy for most corresponding all these matters I had no clue about a lot of this stuff and I’m so thank you for enlightening us and we will definitely be in touch soon thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provide ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Damas de

Anarcho-Punk, Psychedelics, and Survivalism with Laughing Coyote TPP98

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This episode contains an interview with one of my anarcho-punk brothers from back in the day. We recorded this conversation over 6 years ago yet it remains a compelling primer on the evolution of radical ecological movements and the their dynamics within the punk underground.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 98 this is a blast from the past a recording I did with a dear friend of mine from the anarcho punk movement this was back in 2011 and 2012 was so big on my mind and it was a catalyst for a lot of Rapid transformation and I think we’re just beginning to see some of the changes that people were preparing for it that time so it’s kind of a time capsule looking at where I was coming from and it was a beautiful opportunity for me to catch up with an old friend with deeper roots in the movement of a knuckle Punk and Eco activism and psychedelic Shamanism and anarcho-primitivism green Anarchy and much more so I think it’s a great primer on the movements that I really feel like I’ve been most affected by and in the most aligned with and yeah I hope you enjoy it thank you so much no mistake I’m here today with a very dear and old friend and comrade at laughing coyote and the I will ask you introduce yourself tell us a little bit about how you personally evolved into a punk rock culture and anti-thyroid tarianism and where and when and how the environmental and ecological movement in Consciousness started to emerge with that path yeah I guess you were asking me earlier about how I got involved in the anarcho punk subculture and how I begin when in my life I begin identifying as an anti fart Aryan and I would say for me I mean it goes back to my first conscious memories Witcher you know maybe kindergarten around that. Of my life from a very early age before I even possess the vocabulary to articulate my views on external Authority and the attempts of those around me particularly adults to control me I had an instinctive aversion to being controlled and I definitely was with a we’re on a intuitive level that there was an indoctrination and socialization process going on around me one of my earliest memories is being forced to say the Pledge of Allegiance in kindergarten being introduced to that brainwashing ritual for the first time and realizing you know seeing seen the psychological mechanics at work and I went to to be grasping that immediately I I knew that by forcing us to repeat this his oath day after day that there was a process of brainwashing occurring I just didn’t have the vocabulary possess the vocabulary at the time to to explain that to anyone else but I was aware of what was happening and I was mentally guarded against it once I learned to read and write the once I crack the code of language I was probably 7 or 8 at that point I realized at that point that I the public school system of you know that was holding me prisoner at the time was standing in the way of my education and that once I had gained the gift of literacy I I I was quite prepared to just take it from there and strike out of my own I realized I didn’t really have a I have a need for this standardized State curriculum and I resented you know this state finance housing facility that I was confined in 5 days a week so I I definitely was looking for ways to rebell and to escape but at a young age it was hard for me to articulate what I saw going on around me and I didn’t feel like I had a lot of allies and I didn’t really understand the on the limits are the extent of my own personal strength and ability to alter my situation so yeah I begin exhibiting rebellious antisocial anti-authoritarian Tendencies at a young age tried my best to get thrown out of school I am putting on my my real political Awakening I was kind of a Rebel Without a Cause you know up until about age 10 or 11 and one of the ways in which I rebelled against the end of it the Stipe stifling conformis environment that I was being Riordan was through drug use and by the time I was ten I was already smoking marijuana but in a way that actually led to my political radicalization because I grew up outside the New York City area and couple times a year New York City radicals would hold events in Central Park that they called Smoke in where thousands of people would show up in a five to ten thousand people and they would open we light up in smoke marijuana in defiance of the authorities in defiance of the police and nobody got arrested because in that case there there were just too many of us so I’ve been hearing about the smoke ends when I was about 12 and that started drawing me into Manhattan more regularly and it was that one of these smokins that I encountered my first and largest newspaper was called overthrow and it was put out by some former hippies who still maintained an office On Bleecker Street in Greenwich Village former Associates Abbie Hoffman who unlike Jerry Rubin and some of the other sell out to their generation they they stayed true to the game and a they were definitely anarchists leaning and their paper overthrow was certainly an artist and I started getting their offices On Bleecker Street and that was kind of my introduction to anarchism actually before I even discovered Punk so that prepared me mentally for my waiter Discovery upon which came when I was about 14 15 I mean I’ve been exposed to the anarchist Punk didn’t come it’s wet come my way until life’s about 14 or 15 when I start getting supposed to crass and all that various fans that are part of the crass family musical tree so did you start he started collecting records and going to shows and Koenig that typical process of of starting to hang out and and and kind of clicks of like-minded punk friends and video did you go a lot of punch go through a the politicization process that starts out with a very that service Street Punk you know fuck the world kind of kind of politically vacuous rebellious approach and then overtime get exposed to stuff that’s more heartfelt and compassionate and thoughtful but you had already been seated with anarchists in Revolutionary and you know social justice Liberation type Consciousness and then some music that Express that is well through anarcho-punk where did you go from there in terms of the scenes you get kind of plugged in into that world into that infrastructure and kind or are we kind of peripheral to it and you’re just always a fan and where did your life kind of go from that did it have did did the discovery of article Punk take me Lily guide to Direction your life or was it kind of background to other things or how did you how did you integrate it in were you directed by at that point wake me up in a small working class town in New Jersey about 20 minutes south of Manhattan and yet still quasi-war rural so we had a river that ran through our town called the musconetcong and I had access to forests you know within 20 minutes of where I lived in the opposite direction to Manhattan so there wasn’t any Punk scene to speak of where I was growing up I was definitely in the minority as far as my musical tastes went and the most rebellious elements amongst my peer group were metalheads and that’s pretty much why hang out hung out with they could be they could definitely be counted on to engage in a Mindless acts of vandalism and I could count on them in a lot of ways I mean they were we’re always enthusiastic about coming out spray painting tagging we pacing but that was what I was left to work with and my exposure to the punk scene involve going into Manhattan and that’s definitely where I began where I would have to go to acquire the music I was developing strong passionate interest in I was always you know I never went through like an anti nowhere we kind of phase was never a gbh type spikes in leather punk I mean I always gravitated towards the more intelligent punk bands and I was fortunate that that sweat started coming into my life anyway and what I was initially drawn to I’m with a lot of those fans with in particular the British anarcho-punk movement was I think a lot of people who don’t have any R4 Punk don’t have any work for the music and therefore of never investigated the The Counter Culture itself because of the aversion that they have to the music I think what they fail to realize is that there was a spiritual dimension to the scene especially in the early to mid 80s and I think there was a spiritual vision that was being expressed you know through the anarchist Punk movement through those those bands what they were what they were channeling and what they were expressing it had a profound impact on my life and my world view and for 15 years or more I didn’t listen to I virtually didn’t listen to any other type of music is there was nothing I encounter that was was more powerful our had a more powerful effect on me that resonated is deeply with me in the core core of my being political radicalization came through a lot of those pants Christ even even early Chumbawamba. certainly all the cracks in Mortar hate bands and bands like antisec in particular I mean that was my my exposure to animal rights animal Liberation the critique of species is on veganism which is something I embrace that a young age end incorporated into my wife for 17 years so you got those that scene had a profound effect on me but I was always because I didn’t have a larger seen that I could conveniently connect with I was always on the periphery of it and remain somewhat a lunar connected but still doing my own thing and then and it was good that I was able to maintain my distance like that because from that vantage point I was also able to observe the Conformity that was present even in the punk counterculture and a lot of the role-playing and a you know just the conformist attention to wearing the right costume and I never got sucked into that aspect of things and was actually able to maintain a detached critique of it so when in the you were getting exposed to the anarcho punk bands to an array of different social environmental and socio-economic issues and causes and movements what led you to an emphasis on environmental the environmental movement several things that were carrying that were several influences at work in my life simultaneously and definitely bands like avoid some of the early releases were instilling a strong environmental awareness and me and from there I wanted to learn more and so I began seeking out Publications like the Earth First journal on I think the single most profound influence on me during that period of my life though when I was wanting to understand my relationship with the Earth better and when I was developing a critique of urban culture was discovering the anarcho primitivism journal Fifth Estate which was coming out of Detroit during that. Of time actually from the early seventies to the early 90s that came out of the Troy and I got exposed to in about 1986 and a critique of civilization that was being formulated in fit the state during that. Of time just really blew my mind and really resonated with me and that’s when I started getting exposed to an Arco permabase writers like John’s there is an Fredy Perlman and during that. Of time every issue fit the state was crammed with investigative and bibliographical weeds tons of interesting authors and anthropologists were being cited regularly and fit the state so that gave me a lot of investigative leads to work with and I began seeking out a lot of these books and kind of immersing myself in that body of literature which I refer to as the anti-civilization critique starting with Lewis Mumford who was I’m addressing some of these issues in the 1920s and on up to the the wave of anarcho-primitivism explicitly anarchists critics of civilization that started making themselves known in the early seventies see you had established the conceptual framework to reorient yourself towards a more intimate connection with the Earth send to evaluate things like where food and water comes from in an urban culture and where we tradition or how and where we traditionally in in more Primal states of being were in balancing in Whitmore and bouncing different ways and then obviously through the Earth First Journal you’re getting exposed to the current events and issues in campaigns and whatnot did you joining the environmental movement did you was there a lot going on a lot of community that you found on the East Coast or was it coming to the West Coast where you found more of the I guess maybe we should get into just a relationship with hippie culture in a relationship with the environmental movement in the underground is just part of the the Riff Raff the overall Riff Raff you know in end of the circuits of different events like the rainbow gathering his stuff how that experience the social experience of of things in addition to the you know that the book experience in the literature experience kind of help formulate that that well before I moved to Oregon when I was 16 my understanding of what an old growth forest was was purely conceptual I was reading about it I was reading about in the Earth First Journal about the early tree sets early incidence of tree spiking but all of his stuff was occurring in the Western United States which was which is something you know I could vaguely imagine in my mind but I had no direct experience with it I’d never gone any further than a any further west than Ohio so when I move to Oregon that’s when a lot of things begin falling into place for me in my life you know intellectually and spiritually a lot of connections were instantaneously made I spent my first month in Oregon doing nothing but hiking around the Columbia River Gorge experiencing old-growth for the first time waterfalls a web of wildness that I didn’t think even existed on planet Earth anymore excited I never had anything to compare it to Savannah and the importance of the work that are the first was doing became even more apparent to me and it became much clearer what was at stake and why people were putting their lives on the line so I began exploring some of the areas that I was reading about in the Earth First Journal areas that were on the chopping block to be to be cut to be converted into clear-cut some areas that if our service and the Bureau of Land Management had designs on the earth first Journal was at least trying to draw attention to these areas and I happen to move to one of the hot spots the Pacific Northwest so this was occurring all around me so that that really helped me understand on a primal visceral level what was at stake and it stopped being like a purely intellectual fair to me at the point and just as a as a biological being I started to a to understand the the the assault that was occurring on the Web of Life how about yeah I had a definitely a similar transformative experience first getting involved with that resets and getting out there and seeing you know the Deep all girls that live the real like temperate rainforest FernGully experience and that seems to get right into people’s hearts very deeply very quickly and I totally relate to that so I and you have a unique experience that I definitely want people to learn about and hear about having frequent in the rainbow gathering and it’s I think it’s kind of like the the original working class Burning Man or Poor Man’s Poor Man’s Burning Man or something like that I guess I don’t know how the two were late you know in terms of how they cross-pollinated influence each other but I think a lot of people who see Burning Man as a cost-prohibitive Endeavor aren’t aware that the rainbow gatherings is and you told me some fascinating and wonderful things about that so maybe if you can talk about your that as an influence and is an experience and also stepping back from that just your encountering repair your encounters with and your integration of the hippie culture proper because I think what would my right as a punk my path went through that cycle of content just in your face or belly is anarchy you know kind of stuff to getting more refined and more sort of philosophical and theoretical about power relationships in class and class Warfare and stuff and then it was later that I got into environmentalism the environmental movement in and then specifically like for me it was more the crust anarcho-punk in amcrest was kind of the synthesis of the esthetic aesthetically it was at the synthesis of like Punk attire hippie dreadlocks in hemp jewelry in tribal type tattoos and tribal Trinkets and adornments and what not and even things like Patchouli and stuff like that so there’s a thin metal and then that the black you know that the black clothing and skulls and kind of the darker more evil aesthetic of metal and then the put the Consciousness in the energy in the spirit of of punk which may have been a kind of punk where was just you know people that whatever like not even dressed up but just the spirit and it didn’t matter what the law says not necessarily like bondage belts in Liberty spikes and stuff like that although there’s the memes are kind of intermix here and there but it’s definitely very apparent that hippie influence on you know just to everything from natural living and wellness and you know that that a lot of stuff getting aggravated so I’m curious you you have you no more of a more background experience probably directly encountering and integrating what I think it’s easy to makeover generalizations about anything that you are you have no personal experience with her that you’re critiquing from from afar it’s easy to stereotype Punk culture until you immerse yourself and develop some appreciation for how diverse it actually is I mean with with in the punk movement I mean how many schools of thought of and currents and sub currents have I have developed within you to the larger category a punk I mean everything from from straightedge to queercore to cross to pop punk ad infinitum you wouldn’t know that unless you would really involved yourself in it and then able to understand the nuances and the diversity that actually exist within the punk subculture I believe the hippie counterculture it’s been my experience that it’s every bit as diverse I mean you can stereotype all hippies as deadheads who like to wear tie dyes and who are worthless Stoners who snowboarding Stoners whose life revolves around glass pipes but I mean that’s that’s just one small aspect the hippie culture yeah they’re they’re just as the drunk punx are there in the glue to glue sniffing paw the gutter punks in the exploited Punk’s I mean yeah there’s plenty of things about the hippie counterculture a better disgraceful and embarrassing but I’m doesn’t entire Spectrum it runs the gamut and at its core the hippie movement was and is a DIY movement I mean it’s kind of a precursor to punk and you know that’s obvious if you know anything about the history of crass and you understand that with the exception of Steve ignorant every other member crass came out of the London hippie movement of the late 60s they were older hippies who recognized the Revolutionary potential of punk when it came along and also the artistic potential of it which I think they also took full advantage of but more than it I mean crafts more than any other anarchists projects of the late 20th century I mean they were almost single-handedly responsible for resurrecting anarchism as an international movement and it’s important to remember that was a bunch of hippies who did that so I think it’s it’s important to try to stay broad-minded and to think for yourself another thing about the hippie counterculture the 60s it’s important to look at what they were reacting against they be they were reacting against a mechanized society and increasingly mechanized Society and some of the ways some of the things that they pioneered are things that I benefited from later on as an anarcho punk I’m the fact that there were health food stores for me to plug into and take advantage of that I that stores existed where I could purchase tofu where I could acquire soy milk and all these new products at 7 we became important to me I have two hippies the back for that the fact that I could find organic food pretty easily here on the West Coast in the whole organic movement organic agriculture was something that was pioneered or at least Revitalize than significantly strengthened by by the hippies the back to the land movement of the early seventies the late sixties and early seventies but definitely in the 70s is when it began to occur when a lot of people realize that the values that they were fighting for where we’re real they were important they were values that they had internalized and wanted to live by but the revolution that so many people were counting on a hurting in the 60s wasn’t going to a car so I think a lot of it quote unquote hippies at that point decided that the best course of action available to them was to get out of the Cities get out of Babylon as as they call it and get back to the land to individually and in a small group secede from the system and so I also had that 2 to take advantage of the fact that you know where I was living in the Pacific Northwest there there was still plenty of functioning communes that were were established in the early 70s that I was able to visit learn from stay out for extended periods of time I mean that’s that’s where I begin to learn to grow food myself was a practicing on some of these communes that had Farms that had functioning Farms that you know provided 70% of the food that the people living there eight I had I have tremendous respect for that wing of the hippie movement people need to realize too that there has been an underground psychedelic movement that has existed at least since the time Albert Hoffman for synthesized LSD and it’s been it’s been underground Adam definitely reach the certain Peak or Apex in the late 60s the mid-to-late 60s but as the state became more repressive and totalitarian towards the use of psychedelic medicines the movement just went deeper underground and that’s that’s one of the that’s something else I think we we have to thank the real hippies for is that one at one of their roles in the grand scheme of things as I see it is that they keep these medicines and circulation and these medicines allow people to reconnect with the Earth and what I would call the guy in mind on a really deep non-intellectual Primal level in a life-altering way will you see things and learn lessons that will stick with you that will alter your perception reality permanently for the better that’s one of the things that I think hippies of really done for the counterculture and that’s one of the functions I think rainbow gathering serve that a lot of people don’t realize that they’ve never been to one I mean they are essentially group psychedelic ceremonies you’re not required to take psychedelics but there’s those medicines are being used and they’re being used by a lot of people and you’re participating whether you’re ingesting those medicines or not and I think that was one of the strategies that that people adopted I mean the first rainbow gathering was 1974 and I think at that point you know that the hardcore hippies who weren’t turning back who would who would dropped out fully and completely in their mind spiritually there was no turning back for them they realize that to keep their culture alive and they needed to continually recruit and the rainbow gatherings have served that purpose I mean thousands of people stumble upon the national rainbow gathering every year and are never the same again I’m glad you brought that up I kind of tell people now anybody who’s watched the movie Avatar and enjoyed it is paying homage to Ayahuasca and Amazonian psychedelic Shamanism because the Tree of Souls is based on the vine of Souls which is the translation of Ayahuasca and I heard from Daniel pinchbeck that it didn’t put should come as no surprise that James Cameron had had the a by waska ceremonial traditional Ayahuasca experience before writing that so it’s definitely flows that all of the translucent fluorescent alien otherworldly life-forms depicted and and and all of that come from the tryptamine experience if you will end yeah it’s been Terence McKenna said it one point I don’t know how they keep a lid on this stuff so it’s definitely that function in that role and you know I like I can now there are you know that Santo dime a legal precedent Clinton pass the Religious Freedom revitalization Act or something to that something to that effect and Terence McKenna assist talked about you know I don’t know if you said at one point in the lecture I don’t know if you’ve noticed this but the system is not going out it’s not handing out rights to people not handing out civil rights it’s not handing you know it’s not handing out to the for the oppressed and minority or minority populations who have who feel that their human rights are not being respected to say the least for psychedelic Society to to emerge and take hold it it would have to be there have to be a second telegram pollution and if anything is like the precursor to that it’s it’s sort of veiled but I mean even in in Lord of the Rings there’s references to the halflings leaf and you know there’s all these pop culture references to do his medicine is and I think that you know with the maps that the big an organization that’s trying to get clinical studies done with MDMA and all that stuff in there psilocybin studies being done it’s it’s not going to be a taboo thing it’s it’s it’s coming dancing to the volunteer for specific. Of time and work on specific projects for us at different times of the year we get most of our interns during the summer but we get interns year-round and we have in our volunteers so we have Educators we have people who are research Affiliates and who published research and use the center is one of their professional affiliations we have research assistants who helped them we do work with events so we do some Outreach events I think on Wednesday we’re going to UCLA sextravaganza which is been happening for several years on UCLA’s campus that we usually set up a booth are we do that with other things around town we’ve also have members some of our volunteers go to conferences all over the world and represent us at different places and in different areas apparently were very popular in Melbourne just found out from a friend who’s been living in Australia for the past couple years I can’t I guess we’ll have to go there at some point cool it’s a new cloud-based model it’s elegant and overhead in the neighborhood drama and that there’s a lot of reasons to transcend that six location and you can if you can be a mobile you know unit then you can just take your your your laptop and projector and some you know what your handouts or whatever you have in this b a anywhere and then again because through using Skype and using other types of internet programs you know we can get into a classroom you know that might not be able to bring us there physically but we can still do it will set it up on our end and and just stream live stream wherever we need to be and it’s very helpful to cuz we so we have volunteers I think are farthest away volunteer that we’ve had so far was in Trinidad so we can have volunteers from anywhere in the world who can work with us medication programs and so they help us Creator update or education resources in our reference materials and putting together things to help teachers facilitate this in their classes they might actually be one of our Educators we train people to go out to those classes and to give presentations to places we have research assistants to make come in with a certain amount of background knowledge and how to do academic research and some come in just wanted to learn it and so we trained them and they work with people who are doing research in various aspects of positive sexuality and so some of them get to co-author papers and some of them get to work on the ground floor of research happening and get to really get into what that is and have a voice and have an influence in what’s being done in the academic world and this is course then starts to affect policy when we’re putting scientific research in front of people and saying here this is what the says that’s not the correct or let them besides these aspects and that can be very very helpful we work with other organizations so and CSF the National Coalition for sexual freedom is one of our sort of co-working his nation’s the community academic Consortium for research on alternative sexualities we work with them as well yeah I’m getting chills yeah I’m getting chills cuz this is a lot more than I bargained for and actually seeking a lot of what you’re describing and to have yeah we hope we have a good bit of time last time feeling compelled to ask you a little bit about I guess hey if you’re into taboos right blowing them there is all I ever believed starting this week there’s going to be the biggest psychedelic science conference in the history of humanity happening in the Bay Area it’s put together by that multidisciplinary Association for psychedelic studies and the there’s a lot of really important cutting-edge legal for the first time in decades studies happening all over the world with psilocybin you know I gave magic mushrooms and MDMA and Ayahuasca and marijuana and peyote and I will gain a number of other synthetic and natural organic you could say psychedelic compounds in a lot of it is at this point in this stage of the Renaissance of research it’s really about proving the safety the relative safety of different compounds getting the dosage to be sort of understood better at also having some really important clinical trials around ending ending addiction to harmful drugs ending cigarette addiction end-of-life anxiety sexual abuse and Trauma and PTSD from War veterans there’s all these different the demographics that are starting to have really groundbreaking results and they’re doing you know they’re putting in the millions of dollars to do the the research for all this and so I bring that up just to say that this is an interesting juncture for me because the a cultural cliche about sex drugs and rock and roll and you know the way that the culture of inebrians is starting to move a large part due to Raves and festivals it’s moving more towards entheogens than just Coke and heroin and meth and booze there’s more opportunities for people who are coming into their sexuality to have access to psychedelic experiences and so there’s the new Alchemy of innocent in these Generations between sex drugs and rock and roll and if it’s it’s it’s it’s a lot more sophisticated and advanced and and and just more diverse in many ways than it was in the 60s when it was you know Acid Rock and LSD and other birth of the the hippie movement in the 60s but I’m wondering if you have in your position they’re come across any any any people who are interested in in rigorous academic study of what this new sex and drugs and rock and roll Paradigm it is shaping up to become if there’s anyone interested in that that you know of he’s been there are definitely people who are starting who are doing research on these topics and very often the connection that ends up happening in the academic research is you know if we’re looking at the sex drugs and rock and roll that of course is going to look at the outcomes and too often I think the the outcome that gets stressed is okay so what’s the what’s the public health issue so is it possible or is it likely that people are might be transmitting STIs because they might be under the influence of something or maybe they can’t we do we have to worry about consent if someone is under the influence of something that then means that they cannot now consent to what happens at that point so what happens if everybody who’s involved have done that so where does that line get drawn so I think a lot of the issues that have come up in recent research has been either on public health topics around STI transmission or on consent topics recognizing that at least by law if someone is inebriated for example they can now no longer consent to sexual activity okay so what happens if everybody involved. That’s so interesting yet that’s exactly what I’ve been actually encountering and in just by life experiences it’s there’s there’s a lot of people now who were you can say you were having expanded Consciousness through empty agentic use meaning it’s kind of a nice way of saying psychedelic no drugs but but that’s an important consideration because just because you feel like you’re enlightened than that one with God doesn’t mean that you’re immune from being the perpetrator with that Enlightenment that you don’t think you have a potential for abuse and even if it’s not that sort of shady you know where that sort of Insidious there’s also just the issue you’re not in your body if you’re having an out-of-body ecstatic psychedelic experience how how do you get even if you can send it to the idea of something earlier in the evening that has to be held through somehow and if you lose the if you become somebody else or part of your higher self or whatever it could be theirs that’s some chicky territory for sure yeah so that’s I guess there’s you know that I’ve seen like at electronic dance music events you can call him Rave but that’s kind of more you know probably more accurate term these days cuz there’s within that whole world there’s different camps and it’s more no more more bride to just called electronic dance music these days but you know there is there’s sort of harm reduction education Outreach groups that put out one sheet kind of look like glass CD mailer cards you know about business matters and they have kind of a profile of what the different substances how did how to test and make sure that they’re real or are what you’re getting it like that there’s that whole harm reduction education Outreach approach that is kind of like what you’re talking about but it’s for the party scene in just for best and better practices around that but I could see that they’re being a sum interest group of people where they would want to see things the way you’re talking about it cuz I actually no way you’re framing it it it feels like there’s a lot more due diligence for people that want to be credible and respectable and using best practices to actually think with some of these analytical tools so I’m hoping you’ll be great if there was some overlap or or or Synergy with all this stuff I think more and more what is happening as we’re seeing the people who are actually involved in all of these different spaces you know the people were actually doing whatever it is we’re talking about having more influence on the research that’s being conducted so that it creates a more authentic overall experience and I think it adds a level of legitimacy to the research so rather than a researcher sort of from on high saying well I’m going to study this group and I think what they’re doing may not be safe and so we know the perspective that I’m going to come about with this is that well this is already inherently unsafe and now I’m going to show you why it’s in safe and I think more and more we have researchers who are in these communities who are in these faces or doing all of these things and you say you know maybe we need to do is talk to the people who were actually doing this and not talk to them with a preconceived notion of what’s going on or what they’re experiencing or what may be happening but go in just as a hey could give us some information to tell us about what’s happening and I think we’re seeing more of that so there has been research on for example like barebacking and there’s been research on sex workers experiences and there’s been research on sort of the the spiritual some of the spiritual Connections in the spiritual extremes that can be experienced through extreme SM activities light hookah coals and those kinds of things so we’re seeing more and more of that happening where people who are actually in these groups are part of the subcultures are also crossovers into the academic life and we’re just seeing an amazing amount of research that starting to Bubble to the surface and get a little bit of space. I think this research has been getting done for quite a while but it can be really hard to get it published because some of the academic Publishers don’t want to hear about it and I want you to my is any of these things so if they publish something on it they want to be really careful so with our journal and with some of the other journals out there we’ve been able to bridge. Cap and actually be able to show some I feel like more authentic stories well absolutely will now in this world have so many The Gatekeepers being dissolved by the power of the internet I feel like you know there’s a lot of bad journalism or untrained journalism so there’s got to be a lot of bad or untrained or Incredible or uncredible research but maybe it’s the methodology that can be what’s the word sort of feel like I could imagine what as you were speaking I was imagining will wouldn’t it be great to train the you know that like the anthropological participation observation ethnography kind of model but if you were to train if you were coming from that subculture and you wanted to sort of document your tribe and produce your own ethnography kind of amongst your friends kind of tabulate experiences and collect notes insured compare notes is there was you recommend any kind of Crash Course doing data collection for different types of research paper I’m doing ethnography in the field and sort of how that works and how you can sort of pull everything together there’s a really good little guidebooks you know a quick online search for for some of these guys are out there and ask her if she is amazing stuff I love doing a photography by the way I think it’s an incredible tool that doesn’t get use nearly enough and and it got a lot of researchers a colleague of mine she recently did a photographic ethnographic working with lgbtq Foster Youth and homeless Youth and kind of went out gave them all cameras and said take photographs of Your World of your life of who you are, and they did a whole art show you know like found a gallery in Downtown LA and just played everyone’s photographs and and you know really got people connected to them and seeing them as people who have life experiences and they’re not just sort of a category of disadvantaged kids so yeah I think there’s there’s an easy guide books out there just like a quick you can find some quick little things of how to do ethnography and how to do that and but I think a lot of that to starts with her own storytelling so things that you do and things that others do and and all the bloggers out there and everything of these are all forms of ethnography relay yeah that’s cool it’s just that it’s exciting and hopeful cuz I feel that I’m at a point where I’m doing kind of pseudo-scientific Rogue radical research that’s way too far out for any government agency or any academic institution to touch with a ten-foot pole so it’s it’s kind of on me and my colleagues and friends 2 do this sort of underground research but then hope that it it’s done in a way that it can be respectable or it can be legitimated later you know but it is probably good to do what you’re suggesting and actually have some some templates for collecting the data that mean okay here’s what would our experiment yielded and here’s the methodology in the procedure and you can test it on your own Hardy or lab or whatever replicate what you’ve done and so can you give enough information that would allow somebody else to replicate and get similar results in their own place or find totally different results which is also fascinating injured and interesting and yeah and I think that’s really I mean that’s science that is science Sciences pushing boundaries and science is you now let’s try a new thing and see what happens and science is telling a new story or New Perspective of a story and you know I think that that’s been lost over the past many years Society The Sciences inquiry science is asking questions and wondering why thing happens and how something happens and trying to figure that out and I think that we’ve sort of collectively as a larger society have sort of lost that Focus write the word crowdsourced crowd-source funding crowdsourced ideas and editing and an art I mean you were talking about that at that photo gallery exhibit and that’s a great example if you would call that a crowd-sourced ethnographic oh yeah photojournalism nice oh yeah that’s cool that’s that’s exciting time so I’m also wondering now do you have do you do you or your organization the Center provide any kind of consulting services or any kind of where you could be hired or you could be sort of commissioned to do research or to consult on Research I don’t know that we’re I don’t know that anybody is really hired to do research cuz wouldn’t it be fantastic if someone will pay for that but that doesn’t happen if we do get hired as consultants for a variety of things so either individuals within the organization or the collective organization May consult on certain projects or consult on like creative curriculum for a particular thing and we have individuals who are consulted on court cases and I’m legal issues so so there’s a lot of that we also get hired by professionals like to teach professional workshops on various topics so that happens as well because we’re a nonprofit although those things are often we you know ask for fee cuz usually the people who were asking for these services are people who can pay for it but what going out to the schools we’re going to colleges in touch or we have a student group asked us to come and do something with them or like what you know we go to somebody’s community of answer something we may ask for an honorarium but we’re going to do this stuff for free so we really depend on our donors and our contributors and the people who support us to kind of give us the funding that we need in order to do what we want to do and and to publishing and all the other stuff so our journals available for free most of our Outreach staff and education program is all for free so yeah a lot of what we do depends on donations as opposed to people actually hiring us officially to do something right on that sounds like a healthy well-rounded multi Revenue stream nonprofit you’re definitely fulfilling your mission in so many beautiful dimensions and I’m just really happy to know that we’ve connected to some really feel better about living in the world with you more offline 2 just to explore some of these Consulting opportunities that you have and see what we’re about and all of that stuff were completely volunteer so none of us are paid for what we do I don’t run a paycheck nobody wants a paycheck that’s completely volunteer and yeah we’re just we’re just trying to let you know we just try to bring it enough funds to keep going and to keep doing what we’re doing and to expand so we’re actually going to be expanding our face-to-face education program out to Chicago over the next few months so Craig can you do that that’s well thank you so much that’s great I feel like it’s it’s really refreshing to to hear that there are people out there who are so dedicated to the cause that it’s that you did not just going to slam the door in your face if you don’t write a check if you know the first five minutes if you’re not going to bill me for this podcast interview right now about an hour into it is do you have a sort of committee or task force or team or just even a person who is either because they are a trauma Survivor or because it’s just near and dear to their hearts whatever reason is there you do consent workshops in self-defense or rape and assault prevention and any any more of the or any any of the sort of preventative and treatment kind of education unpreparedness we do have programs around consent we don’t really specifically talk about self defense or or right prevention in the standard sense so we don’t really talk about here’s what you can do to prevent being raped we talked about here’s what you can do to not rape someone because really this is not on the victim this is on the perpetrator but we also talked about you know here’s other ways that you might think about your sexual self and your identity in the power dynamics that you may interact with and find consensual outlets for some of your interests and behaviors and the citiz and you know we talked about a wide range of those things so it would be great if the people who are doing the Rape Crisis counseling and who are just in the trenches of dealing with battered women and in and going in and and doing you know investigations to catch meant to prosecute the perpetrators of all ages if they were I would let it would be great if in it you know in a perfect world they were seeking you all to educate themselves on better prevention and better version or diversion from the criminal whole that the response like they’re coming as the First Responders two incidents that would have been prevented by a proper education on all sides right and we do have we do have information so some of our researchers and and because we have people who are social workers who have conducted research through us who have published on how to do how to have a sex positive approach to handling victims how to have a sex positive approach to handling offenders and that these approaches can really help reduce crime can reduce negative stigma can reduce it comes cool is that would that be on your website or at some if I if I can follow up with you later cool okay well alright I feel like it’s this is yes. A real blessing and I just want to thank you again for your time and generous sharing of great info so with that said do you want to give the website and any other maybe upcoming events or anything else you’d like to promote and the website is positive sexuality. Org journal and that’s Journal of positive sexuality. Org we have our anniversary party coming up this July so if you want to be invited and want to be a part of that anniversary party will be a fundraiser you can contact me at Emily Emily at positive sexuality. Org or you can go to our website and put in your email address and then you’re on our newsletter list and you’ll get information through our newsletter about our party and we’re hoping we’re putting together an academic conference for next year so look on our website check things out if you go to sex pause khan.com so s e x p o s c o n. Com there’s going to be updated information they’re probably starting in the next couple of weeks for our positive sexuality conference coming up in 2018 in Burbank all right that’s very exciting thank you again yeah that’s me alright thank you so much again and I will hopefully I’ll be in touch soon thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite sex if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at kontrapunkt. Com Thomas gay

Seeking the Heart of Tantra with Nirmala Nataraj TPP57

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Nirmala pic In this episode I am joined by Nirmala Nataraj. I discovered her great works in a search for a teaching on the symbology within the Kali Yantra and found her article.

She has graciously blessed the podcast by sharing her story of personal transformation through Tantra and Goddess Kali worship. She holds sacred space for me to share some of my revelations and research and generously provides validation of and guidance for many of my most controversial discoveries.

Together we weave a mutually affirming narrative of personal healing and spiritual growth through our devotion to Kali. We emphasize the need for preparation, care, and caution when approaching her might and magic. We also encourage listeners to find supportive fellowship as they rediscover and reinvent Kali’s vast primordial irrepressible nature.

Nirmala shares a description of the Kali Yantra and conducts a devotional guided meditation using the Yantra.

We close with a brief discussion on sexual healing and empowerment through tantra and she offers some great advice for individuals and couples to break through repressive cultural conditioning and reclaim the power and beauty of sacred love making.

Please connect with Nirmala and access her services via her websites:
http://sacredfirecoaching.com/
http://nirmalanataraj.com/

About Nirmala:

I’m Nirmala Nataraj, a San Francisco Bay Area-based Desire Guru and Taboo Slayer (and you can find me at my day job here)!

Sacred Fire Desire Coaching is my way of connecting directly with those who want to embody their truth. My wish to expand people’s repertoire of tools and resources through creative problem-solving is paramount in my approach. I especially love to work with people to clear some of the obstacles that keep them from expressing their deepest truths—obstacles such as shame, past experiences of trauma, and the inability to embrace and integrate every last part of themselves.

For me, healing is something that happens when we are willing to wrestle our demons…and then become their friends (which also happens to be a recurring theme in my writing). I’m also interested in inspiring my clients to view relationships, intimacy, and sexuality as viable and rigorous paths to personal development and purpose.

My training background includes the OneTaste Coaching Program, the Co-Active Coach Training Program, and the Bay Area Nonviolent Communication (NVC) Immersion Program.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear love his phone cover Township podcast episode number 57 I’m here with nirmala and we’re going to talk about goddess Kali and all of the beautiful magnificent ways that she’s entered our lives and given Direction and guidance and some of the Practical applications that we can all use to access her love and medicine and then we were just talking briefly about how apt it is that she was recently featured on the Empire State Building projected during a an endangered species slideshow production that that occurred and then at one of the Visionary artist Android Jones had a slide in there which is a beautiful collie face rendition and caused a bit of an uproar as you’d expect this is sort of a starting point to talk about this her she’s being called forth now to help us and if you don’t believe that you can look up the pictures didn’t see that you know it’s like the Batman signal or something so anyway that was my little brief intro and I normally would you please say thank you for joining us and please tell us about your background and in your path where to start my so first of all I I work I work pretty heavily with just what I consider the energy of desire and being somebody who’s been on a non dualistic tantrik pot for as long as I can remember and I grew up in a traditional Hindu household and both of my parents are from India and I was raised here so a lot of my own path has been about bridging cultural differences and really diving into the energy of what I see as the collective Shadow and for me desire is something that is really capable of helping us to heal from that split that we tend to have between masculine and feminine Darkness and Light and and I think that Kali is a really as it’s kind of emblematic of what it could look like when those when those pictures are heel and when the split is healed and we and we stopped being in conflict with ourselves and and so a lot of the work that I do is around healing our healing our connection with our sexuality healing our connection desire and my website is sacred fire coaching.com because because I do believe that our desire is the sacred fire that lives within us and it’s our responsibility as incarnate beings 210 that fire so that’s a little bit about 10 of the work that I do and I can talk a little bit more about that later but insurance if my own path I would I would say that it’s it actually comes from pretty ancient lineage and my family is from South India and there’s a long line of country cuz in the area both of my parents are from a lot of Hindu Tantra practice today can be found in South India and a lot of these practices are related to the 10 wisdom goddesses who are known as the Mojave Diaz and they’re very prevalent in a lot of different forms of Tantra and Kali is one of them so these goddesses are revered in South India and by far the most strongly maintain tan tradition in South India is his status Street as yet and she is Supreme goddess and a lot of practitioners in the street of your tradition including people in my family tends to be married householders and often there’s a family tradition of practice but being a woman is South Asian descent who was raised and the West I grew up in California back to Tantra has been its it happened been as direct it hasn’t been a part of this unbroken lineage and in fact I would say that that Tantra is still something that in in India in a lot of traditional Hindu family it’s really still seen as kind of a a dark path and there are still a lot of just as misunderstandings about Tantra abounds in the West on there’s a lot of misunderstanding about Tantra in the East and I think a lot of that comes from just you know Colonial attitude two words the way that the body and sexuality and certain spiritual practices were four kind of conveyed so a lot of I would say that a lot of Hindus in a lot of Indian people in general have kind of internalized those attitudes so so like I said before my path back to Tantra has a lot to do with my own exploration of desire and sexuality and desire and sexuality as a rigorous spiritual so I’ve always been interested in sex and sexuality and actually since I was very very young back when nobody in my family talks about it and if the same time because I I grew up in a household where devotion Devotion to god and goddess were really kind of a part of our daily existence I I was always in an environment that was very overly spiritual actually one of my earliest I wanted to be a nun and I wasn’t Christian nobody in my family was Christian but I remember just reading about female nuns and Mystics and being so drawn to this idea of devoting myself body and soul to God so I have always been on a path that I’ve considered devotional and that I’ve considered a path of surrender and that gradually grew into a worship of the dark goddess and all of her forms as mahakali as inanna Ishtar as as the Virgin of Guadalupe and that was actually really connected to my own discovery of feminism and goddess worship as a way of bringing the salmon in back into spiritual practices so so over time I was really interested in how the dark goddess encourages us to dissolve our boundaries between the sacred and the profane and I think that that’s what led me to Tantra and in addition a lot of my former work I used to be a Rape Crisis counselor and so I’ve worked with a lot of women who have felt just generally wounded and disconnected from their own essential sexuality and sensuality and a lot of my work has been without healing. Chasm and I for me working with collie and working with different forms of the dark goddess has been immensely healing I I really can’t even put that into words and end this this really comes from my own experience of how many women and it isn’t just women it’s also none how many of us have been wounded by a pervasive cultural attitudes about sex and sexuality and the sex is an extremely powerful force and the time because I knew this and they know it and and they work with it and incredible and hoping ways but sex is also something that’s a power that can be misused and as women we we often use that power in ways that don’t serve us and we use it to to do things like we to make people fall in love with us for instance where to use sexuality as a weapon because in many ways text has been used as a weapon against us and very few of the women that I’ve ever met has have worked with their sexuality as a source of pleasure and is a source of achieving Union ecstatic Union with the Divine so that’s that’s been a really big interest of mine how do we how do we move towards sex and desire to do that and also another really important aspect is my pot that I kind of alluded to earlier is looking at this experience of being bicultural this experience of growing up in two completely different traditions and and Bridging the Gap because I do think that Eastern forms of thought like Tantra obviously we’re seeing them becoming more and more popular and more and more needed and the west and at the same time there’s there’s just been a lot of really interesting stuff that’s been happening in India in particular and other places where traditionally women haven’t held over positions of power and where there really is still a lot of suppression as far as sexuality goes it’s amazing that India’s this place where Tantra and the Kama Sutra came out of but at the same time there are still horrific attitudes towards women are still bride burning since honor killings and end public rate end so I think that we really we really need to come to an understanding that that Bridges the disconnect that exists and it and I think this isn’t just a disconnect that’s about east and west and our attitudes towards sexuality and body and spirituality it’s a deeper and deeper conflict that’s being healed and it’s a conflict that I think lives inside the human consciousness and that collie and got us have to have the profound power to really heal so so a lot of the work that I’m doing is that the dressing that dualistic split again you know between nature and civilization masculine light and dark and I’m really interested in accessing your life force which is it’s the erotic nstemi accessing the erotic it’s it’s a spiritual act it’s a political act on it’s what we can do to claim our freedom as creative beings and I’ve really seen magical things happen we can act without energy and I’ve seen that happen in my own life and just to give you a little bit more background about myself about 7 years ago or so I was in a marriage that was falling apart and everything looked great on the outside I have been with my partner for close to a decade and something was missing and I didn’t know exactly what and I felt so guilty that I can be in this marriage that where everything looks perfect on the outside but inside there was something essential that was missing that I couldn’t put a name to I’m so I buried that understanding three years and years and and finally at some point the entire relationship just kind of exploded and it was like goddess herself came into my life and and shown this Stark light on to everything that I had built and and I felt like I was falling apart and it was a revelation and it was very difficult for me at that time and I think it’s that way of guilt and shame this this sense of internal knowing that there’s something that’s missing and I look back on that time now and I know that what was missing was my sense of connection to pleasure and desire and two goddess really to the feminine I think that that weight of guilt and shame of wanting and longing for this thing that we don’t have words for it it keeps so many women from tapping into the full extent of who they are and they’re afraid to even admit to it so I would say that my my real talk begin with just acknowledging my desire technology that there was a desire that was not being mad and it was not being that in the context of that marriage so after that I I would stay the night I went on an odyssey that involved Tantra it involved doing some somatic therapy sexological Bodywork and seeing what has been frozen inside me and this experience with Awakening and another itself and I really wanted to share that with other women and so many of the women that I have worked with had really similar stories and another thing that I’ve discovered that’s been remarkable is that a lot of the women I’ve worked with have kind of come into their own relationship with goddess and we’re really finding you know we can’t we can’t divorce our sexuality from our sense of connection to God has for my sense of connection to the universe and to each other and I think that would have been recognizing the night I should say that I work primarily with women but I’ve also worked with men and I’m seeing this awareness and then also is that we are seeking to make our ecosystem harmonious we’re tired of being in conflict with ourselves and we want a sexuality and a spirituality and creativity and community that are all integrated where we don’t have to leave any part of ourselves out answer me with the work that I’ve done in Tantra and with my own practices that involves connecting with collie she she is that energy she is fat energy of you know what here’s this is this is who you are this is all of you take it all you know the good the bad the ugly the things that you perceived as beautiful things that you perceive is garbage and use it because it’s yours and that for me has really been the gift of working with Tantra and being on this path wow thank you so much I’m just like smiling like ramakrishna this whole time here he missed that one photo that’s like so ecstatic and blissed-out the love of the mother just is so intoxicating and yeah yeah this is so beautiful for me to hear especially the did you see at the intensity I mean I’ll tell you that a lot of the time for that I was exposed to four years didn’t go anywhere near Shadow work or collie and when it’s when she was finally you know various when she entered my life very forcefully but yet beautifully I realized how much well just started to scratch the surface of what was missing from the westernized you know hyper-sexualized Tantra that’s not really getting into the deep Shadow work so yeah I really appreciate just having you on this in this conversation and if you don’t mind before we get into the the yantra if I could just Explorer some of my questions for you about Kali and how how she can be accessed and what some of her roles are ya so like I said I was going to learning Township techniques and breathwork and eye gazing and meditation and chakras and Kundalini stuff and and and it was just sort of well divorced from Sedona and goddess worship and so you know the encountering of in the wind a true just to passionate Devotion to the goddess for how much love there is there in one set started to pour into my life and when you know female sort of priestesses were starting to enter my life to initiate me and connect me that way I started going on a frenzy of really studying this force of nature that’s beyond words really beyond the iconic symbol of her standing on Shiva really that’s just a map but it’s not the terrain the terrain of her flesh in her being in her dimensions are so vast you know they’re unspeakable and I’ve gotten deeper and deeper into exploring her boundlessness and I’m curious as SUV gun into your ritual practice of of worship how how would you describe visual experiences an emotional and embodiment experiences send just a sort of narrative Beyond iconography that you’ve experienced too kind of compare notes you know I’m saying about that for hours yeah it’s it’s I think there’s always kind of this interesting experience that that we have when we decide to devote ourselves to particular path or even to a particular deity there’s you know kind of navigating that c of contradictions that all of the stories all of the lore all of the imagery on the experiences you hear about other people having there’s all of that that’s kind of floating and the Consciousness and I think it’s particularly complicated with Kali because she’s she’s so she represents a paradigm that to me is about moving beyond Orthodox representation socially Downs ideas of what’s good are appropriate so in some ways she’s she’s she’s really hard to represent and you know I’m constantly reading descriptions of Kali at that I that I think are grossly mistaken and I just a kind of I picked this up in park in preparing for this interview I was doing a bit of research and I was and I noticed that there was an Encyclopedia Britannica it describes collie as the major Hindu goddess whose I can. she calls in mythology commonly associate her with death sexuality violence and paradoxically and some of her later historical appearances motherly love which I think is really funny because I don’t think any of that is paradox in some ways and comprehensible and so I I would actually say that eyes my relationship with Collies when that is I mean how can it not be informed by certain cultural ideas of who she is whether those are coming more from Orthodox Hindu ideas of who she is and I should say that I grew up in a household that very much revered Kali and and and Shiva in particular they were they were on the present so there were lots and lots of beautiful pictures of collie with her necklace with severed skulls and it was always really funny when I had friends coming over to my house and they see these pictures and it’d be like oh my God that’s that’s so creepy that’s so messed up like why do you have these pictures up in your house and I I really agree with a with an enormous amount of reverence for these images which you know that they might look violent on the outside but they’re just they’re just representations you know their representations of things that exist within each and every one of us then and I always for me I always felt that was that was the beauty of it the beauty was in was in the imagery that that didn’t just fit didn’t just done represent her as being kind of the docile nurturing mother but there’s love these in here there’s love even in this and I really grew up with that understanding so none of that snooze paradoxical but at the same time a lot of Hindus will say oh well, he is actually really loving there is no there is no ferocious aspect beer I think that still persist even among people who do follow her and I think that it’s really important to it’s really important to see that so that her love is all encompassing it it really it’s her love is is her dancing in the Charnel grounds it’s her cutting off illusion at its roots it’s her frankly doing all the shit that we humans don’t want to do that we don’t want to face and I think I really I’ve really discovered Kali in my body in my dreams there’s a very there’s a personal relationship that I’ve had to develop with collie that’s about yes it’s about entertaining the way that she appears in the world and imagery and iconography and I think that there’s a place for all of that but it never became quite real to me until I experienced her for myself until I experienced myself in her grip well yeah well I think that the the story that you read that I wrote it was it was about coming face-to-face with her during I guess what I could describe as being a Dark Night of the Soul on at a time in my life where I felt completely alone and in many ways forsaken by just the spiritual practices that I had had and it was just a really it was a very lonely. My life and I didn’t have a spiritual community that I could really share this with and the most intense experience I had is coming face-to-face with Mama was it’s so appropriate it was during my first Ayahuasca Journey and and I it’s it’s funny sometimes when I described that Journey to the people that they’re just horrified because it really felt like I was coming I was coming face-to-face with death with my dad with the death of everything that I had held to be stable and fixed and everything I thought of as being me and and I think it’s really it’s important of course to remember that collie Collies name is it comes from the Sanskrit root for time and there’s nothing that is skates you know the march of time there’s nothing that escapes her and so and I do think of calling is being a goddess of death but I I’ve always seen it as being the death of the ego and that was that was kind of the experience that I that I had and I which is not to say that I think my ego is completely dead or the even that I wanted to be completely and totally different conversation altogether but but I really felt that this this experience that I had of coming face-to-face with her was about overcoming all of these ideas that I had about who I was and I think that when we become encased in those ideas those ideas become a prison and we don’t allow ourselves to grow into what we could be we don’t allow ourselves to move in the direction that our souls urine for and so I it was it was an incredibly on uplifting experience it was the experience of I’m dying and and also understanding that part of me that is eternal that that is not my you know the part of me that is not my body and not my personality and not my ego which is not to say that that stuff is in the gated because I cannot have that experience was just an even deeper appreciation for everything that I do have all of these tools that I do have at my disposal and I just remember coming out about journey of being sort of like wow I have have this body and you know like my body does all this amazing stuff that’s so cool and there was a sense of. Being you know a face of this this larger being that I am but I bet that’s part of the mystery it belongs to the mystery just as she lives in a mystery and I kind of felt that little journey into my death was this this this beautiful on kind of sojourn into that deeper mystery where you know everything that we believe about ourselves is is just untrue on and it’s it’s interesting cuz it feels like to me that was ego obliterating but it was also on I would say that it’s the most loved that I’ve ever felt it’s the most I’ve ever felt and it was in it wasn’t it was coming to me and it was moving through me and I was that love and if anything it felt like it just it it made me so much bigger then I then I ever knew was possible and that’s me is is just kind of stuff ultimate that’s the ultimate encounter with her she shows you how small your ideas of yourself really are there so puny know who you think you are and what you believe you’re capable of compared to the reality which is just so vast it’s it’s like you know if we settle we settle for so little in terms of our lives than 10 we settle for safety but I but I do think that with the soul wants is that experience of vastness and that experience is moving in to know the places that we fear which I kind of like the veil in front of the vastness you know you got it you have to move through that in order to get to in order to get to that place where you like oh yeah this is it this is this is the experience that my soul has been hungering for and I was the experience that I knew I was hungry for when I was in this dead-end marriage where everything like the future had been written it was everything had been predicted I know I could cross it all off my to-do list and die happy according to someone else’s standards of what that happiness was but I would never have gotten to that to that place to that place of you know feeling this Indescribable love the love that comes through when you’re willing to surrender your ideas of who you are and what your life is supposed to look like and said that experience that’s a very that’s that’s always going to be a personal experience for anybody and it’s going to look different for everybody and I’ve got to say that was that was fairly recent in my life and I honestly don’t know that I that I really knew Kali was before that I had an idea I had a deep reverence for her but I wasn’t touched by her in quite the same way as I was when I allowed myself to go into this experience and allowed myself to say yes I’m okay I’m okay with my dad so just to sort of Jump Ahead a little bit I think there are a lot of different ways to really make a connection with her to get in contacts but I do think that one of the quickest route is is Ayahuasca if if any of your listeners are so inclined it seems to be kind of a direct a direct line to her and and I think

We Demand Shamanic Pornography TPP54

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tpp-54-pic In this episode I’m joined by M.F.P. and we discuss the need for a shamanic revolution in the porn industry. I read my press release introducing a new “shamanic porn” genre starting with the recent release of the Tantradelic Exorgasm music video.

I break down the meaning behind the title and lyrics of the track and I provide an intensive intro to sexual and psychedelic shamanology.