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Revolutionizing Adult Industry Payments with Allie Eve Knox of SpankChain TPP251

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Allie Eve Knox PicIn this episode I’m joined by Allie Eve Knox, VP of Sales at SpankChain for a exploration of her crypto journey and her role at the illustrious SpankChain crypto company

Allie is a Fetish Performer, Content Creator, VP of Sales at SpankChain

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

allie nox vp sales

super in debt,grad school, camming at night, do it house, didn’t have to sit in traffic

2014,

started shooting porn

custom videos, out of bedroom, camming

2017 found spank chain

got in fight with somebody on twitter,

you should hire me, sent resume, i work her now, these are the things i’m gonna do

coming into start up tech space, adult liaison, didn’t know how to deal with my dominatrix character

working with them since ICO

putting out a bunch of pr

we were so strange

aliens in the room

realized, people

weren’t assimilated into tech

did an ico in ico days 2017,

white paper, cam site, crypto only camsite, launched beta april 2018, no privates, no personal chat, site looked really good

beta for a year

discovered, shit hit the fan with crypto, started tanking, people stopped wanting to spend

hard to find user base to part with money

credit card payments brought in more traffic

user account process, get key phrases, all typical crypto stuff

people were really confused by it, constantly losing there stuff

had to completely overhaul the back end

took camsite down, launched few products

hopefully will be bring cam site back up

now first version, model profiles build off of that , where cam site and clip site built on

find favorite model

just put out very first version at AVN

model’s able to get own custom link,

here’s my link pay me through there

links to video content

basically whatever you want

so many benefits in crypto

I’ve had all my accounts shut down, I was violating the rules for selling panties or content

started taking crypto

no one’s gonna protect the adult industry

spankchain, we’re gonna make this for the adult industry

everything’s anonymous, not a thing where I wife is gonna find his credit card purchases

won’t get shut down, low fees

some sites take 50%

credit card processing, we pay taxes

with crypto we just take a 1% fee, .5% for merchants

stable coin, super exciting

really simple cash out process

wills done excellent job of making user experience super easy and intuitive

appreciate community coming together

building a platform models want to use

charge backs, all typical shit

take you’re finances

booty stable coin

really nice to count on,

really nice if I have $250 goal it’s gonna be the same price

whatever you bring in, minus 1% fee

at first didn’t have this on camsite in beta

having to explain price fluctuation

models want to know how to sell things

we just want to make it work, all the technical stuff I don’t know, it doesn’t matter

that’s all I need

I don’t really know how cash works or

don’t have anybody we partner with

gemini sex worker friendly

really good dealings with them

still have to go through exchange, kyc all those things

but I can kind of tease this, we are working on regulations for fiat offramp

load up on spank pay, go and pay bill

going through regulatory process on that, we’ll know mid march

due diligence, paperwork on all that

started camming, paid out on pay card

I could just go cash out automatically

really save me in times when I needed to get paid

that’s really gonna open doors for people

if we start seeing it in everyday practice showing friends

really hope that’s what’s coming next, h

we’re gonna clone product for other people in adult

cannabis, having a hell of a time with payments

there always getting fucked too, we’re gonna co-brand a product, like a white label

we targeted the people who needed this product

we wanted to build the things that the people needed

adult really needed it

this is what we’re all stoked on, this is how we live our lives

the bigger picture is white label it for whoever wants it

start with adoption for people who really need it

people who are unbankable

kind of a solution to a whole lot of problems

urge community to participate in this

send crypto on this

for me, someone in my camroom taught me how to use crypto

2018 started showing up different attitudes towards crypto

adult is always the forefront of technology

maybe if it takes off only a handfull will use it,

never came in there, we’re gonna change the game, we’re another solution we can solve a few problems, we’re hear, we don’t wanna fight

showing up year after year, friendly, hang out with models, provided good community

people started to take us more seriously

started winning awards, good press, kind of the black sheep, kinda strange ones

we were like the red headed step children of the industry

we kept showing up being friendly and cool, putting out products

markets have crashed but we’re still here

a little easier this last year, proven numbers, partners that really like us

been kind of a turning point

now its t

camsite didn’t have a lot of features

small team

takes a long time to do a lot of really cool shit

gave a space for people do do whatever they wanted

people slept

people garden

crypto allows you to do whatever the hell you want

free speech

so open, accepting

it was a no pressure zone, be yourself

smoke, eat

no ranking, no cam score

people were able to monetize it

one time, battle test on site, everybody on at the same time

we want you to break shit, push buttons all be streaming at the same time

spank house, going in tipping,

models streaming, we built this fucking product, spent every moment of our lives

really cool, everybody in this moment, so proud, so thankful model

spank house corporate culture

boys lived in venice beach, had a loft, had extra bedroom, most of team was remote

people would sleep on couches, get together a week a month, bang through things

boys had that place until this winter, downsized, it was a really great spot where the whole team could be together

we’re still remote, devs in canada, I’m in texas, to get team together on call once a week is not enough

company culture, spend a lot of time together, hang out together eat together, work together

we all get together and spend time together

working on this product, lived and breathed

I have a spank chain shirt,

we still have a problem, and have to build a solution

if eth is at 100 or 1000, still that problem out there, no one else is gonna do it

no one else has stepped up

we’re going to work every last second we possibly can

that’s one reason I’m still in this

I need someone to help me protect my money

I need this product

I will work tirelessly to make this product

this what drives every person on the team

whatever that markets gonna do

full force, here are the things we’re gonna do

market has changed so much

Shamanic Pornography and the Ethics of Consent TPP230

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In this episode I’m sharing the 2019 Xbiz Show Consent Round Table session where I respectfully introduced a question for the panel on the ethics of consent for psychedelic shamanic pornography. Not knowing how I’d be received it took a bit of bravery to speak up but I was met with gracious insight and advisement from industry veterans. They were on point with their concerns and dissuasive remarks, all of which I take to heart and value like gold. I feel that whether you’re a sex work, porn performer or producer, or so called “civilian” with no involvement in the sex industry, this panel is very enlightening, and I thank them all very much for briefly holding space for my niche question.

Subversion through Perversion with Manny Festation of Porno Plague TPP210

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About Porno Plague:

“Greetings, foolish masturbators. Please allow me to introduce you to; Porno Plague! I’ll be your host… Your Ghost Host, Mr. Manny Festation. I am the coordinator of this rag tag group of renegade smut enthusiasts. The title of owner and operator however, goes to our Lord, God, on high. Blessed be his name.

We are a group of 13 prophets (myself included) sent by the powers that be to reign down a smut epidemic the likes of which the world has never known! Each of us, representing a different region of the world and categorical taboo.”

#APlagueIsCumming

More about Manny:

I’m also a former Christian youth pastor, had a small but successful stint as a professional wrestler in the indie circuits. I studied religious philosophy and social psychology before dropping out to pursue my own path. I’ve help produce and direct several Renegade Disney projects and am an Occult enthusiast. Other than Porno Plague I am launching a myriad of other projects under my company name; “Obscaena co” which specializes in purposely obscene content. I’ve dubbed it, “social experimental entertainment”. (Porno Plague being a branch of this endeavor).

“Your cadaverous pallor betrays an aura of foreboding, almost as though you sense a disquieting metamorphosis.”

-The Ghost Host

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township on podcast episode number 210 I’m being joined by manifestation and he is also known as the ghost host and is that main project we’re going to talk about today is poor no plague which I am a member of the XPS. Net professional community of people all throughout different sectors of the adult industry come together find work share resources share knowledge and insights and the great forum and had good luck just reaching out and in asking for folks to they like to come on my podcast and talk about the work they’re doing in the space I’m definitely like an independent DIY level producer performer and always interested in more networking opportunities so many is one of the folks who who stepped up and took a look at some of my work and some shirts and blinks and I was a really turned on by a lot of what I was seeing at the porno flick sites and also very interested in the edgy taboo religious and spirituality themes that were coming up and though we may we may represent the movie working on behalf of different different entities and duties but stay as far as I’m concerned I’m interested in the art and creativity and the expression also the sort of just non-traditional and more which is more DIY artistic expression and interested in in just different cultures in different ways of people coming out now in and making their own telling their own story through pornography is very interesting and very fascinating from anthropological syrup refectocil with all that said many thank you so much for reaching out and I’m excited to hear all about the work that you’re doing and what brought you up to this this point of taking this role is that the ghost host and thank you for the invitation really I was a great introduction and you’re good at this a manifestation I am the coordinator for the plague just to get started God came down from heaven and told me to go out into the world and find 12 prophets to rain down a smile like the likes of which the world has never known so that’s pretty much where we’re at we’re introducing profit by profit and non-profit represents a different region of the world and Tabu category of pornography that is very exciting and so then that that excites me about this is that a lot of the religious right backlash against also called smut Peddlers is it they they seem to think that the narrative that you just explained in very plain English is like the the secret conspiracy of all of the smut Peddlers out there and I really think that most smut Peddlers are not that sophisticated in their permission in their their operation and didn’t yet you stand out with this Mission as a very purposeful very formidable adversary to to their agenda so please let’s unpack all this like I’d love to get into the Gory details like what was this experience like of this with this Revelation and and tell us obviously about the the prophets in the taboos can you just throw to unpack all this and go down the the table of contents absolutely I can give you a little run-down Prophet by Prophet the first one comes from Nazca Peru what does Masada mean she represents South America and routine of corn on the second one I came across was Herod or he goes by the username meet the creeper and you represent your lawyer in your hidden cameras things of that nature we have I see we have a c k e r r r Asian Ali Jihad from the Middle East Bernie Lomax nice little throwback there he’s our vintage porn bus Blackmagic representing Africa course whole gang men that is so cool mean it with this / I’m getting is more of like a graffiti crew or like a hacker team or something like a crew of people probably in somewhere in the 20s 30s ish I would imagine but who are like at the peak of having so much passion to express themselves and to be really out there in the world and not not afraid of like the future consequences of who you know that the things as you get older you get more conservative you get more cheerful about Grand Vacations but at a certain stage do you know when I think weed collectives of younger folks coming together in the same like we’re going to fucking do our thing I die Digger this Ensemble the sensible thing so how did you go about finding all these folks I’m basically all your big internet websites to find a landform for amateur models meet the creeper comes from the infamous and and websites and the darknet has traveled around and I found all these guys and we all sort of agreed we had this unique perspective on porn especially with the age of the internet and don’t you know on the front page of corn and you see all the starter box inside the videos and he’s definitely a darker nature in human beings and it seems like the manicure World wants to sort of ignore its we want to exploit The Fetish culture II deeper level and actually I think the progressive conservative religious right forces have basically they’re reaping what they sowed right because now if they would have let people just be free and be themselves and not be afraid and ashamed of all the stuff and it wouldn’t things wouldn’t wouldn’t have to to be we have the way they are now which is like people have to really put their lives at risk to to experience pleasure they want to have with her it’s just kind of vanilla almost sexuality or more extreme BDSM whatnot so just give us sort of the elevator pitch or or even more if you’d like half of what they’re their back story is like I feel like we’re playing a video game is like Street Fighter and you get to little bio on you see like they’re you know where they’re from and you see that that’s a great way of putting a man especially that first that yet the court has been very depressed for a long time and it’s exploding everybody’s face which is why we use the hashtag of leg is coming actually what we do is sort of satirical in a way so we can work characters especially with the category that the rent in the reading the world to represent they sort of them backlash against their own culture for example of our first model of the Latin model tourism sodomy she comes from here in Peru South America near there’s a very Macho culture but behind the scenes there’s a a lot of transvestites were example I’m not sure what the politically correct term is anymore so she sort of going against let the Macho culture here and being the dominatrix or middle eastern model Ali Jihad she’s been an arranged marriage and she wears her her facial mask and sort of expressing strong she’s a lesbian and she can express yourself more freely and I’m that’s that’s really the jest of it is I’m work splitting the taboos for all these different cultures where these people live like a man that is so exciting so now I want to go I want to be able to go and see you like where would I cuz I I looked at a couple of the the tube sites and I’m just kind of surf the bit on the different the different videos but is there a place online where you have sort of like a perfect profile Pages for each one of these characters that’s a great question actually I’m right now we have four notes like that, which is being built up and yeah it’s it’s sort of anybody’s guess right now through the tube sites we don’t have an individual profile for every character right now but we’ve only really introduced our first two prophets Tortas and sodomy and meet the creeper through the tube sites of that you’re going to see the majority of their material right now and every month we’re going to be releasing a good bulk of the next Prophet character represents a different month of the year they all ironically have different zodiac sign things of that nature well actress is so cool man I just feel like this is this is going to be the next Comic-Con sensation because there’s like a cosplay element going on there’s there’s this so much is this it just feels like it it it it hits the spot in so many ways to be able to I am just realized I wish that I was I wish that this was part of of my my younger years and I guess I still I myself I still have like a a character Persona and what not but are you so are you imagining this is going to scale to a point where I mean you said the prophecy was for the pick up the commandments so to speak that you got was for 12 but you’ve do you expect that this will kind of spark of movement and people will want to join and want to fit in somehow to this Mondelez affair so I’m never anybody who’s not one of the main prophets in joining and as soon as they’re material or fan photos but yeah it’s definitely sparked an interest in a lot of people and in the coming months websites going to have a ton of material in content that we haven’t been able to Sean to do besides yet cool man well that’s exciting and it’s good to know that this is disgusted look forward to and in the sub Center development on how it how have you been getting attention in marketing is just been I’m like super curious how how the high be able to stand out I mean this is so unique I can see it it’s super compelling and I’m just curious of all of the strategies and Pathways now with the internet that you could you know that you could explore like what has been working well for you as first marketing promotion strategies right right a little bit and marketing has been pretty easy you know through tags and just being completely different people are interested whether they like it or not so I’m getting to where we’re at now we’ve been building audience through the tube sites before the actual main Hub websites open up and it’s been an easy man to Cakewalk building up her audience that way we definitely have a big punk rock element to it it’s been fun mended the comment section under videos are like YouTube everybody’s arguing about our philosophy and people are confused and keep some questioning I think that’s really keeps on coming back to you you know what else this reminds me of that is so near and dear to my curly you know very extremely fucking rebellious in earlier years was the band Gwar your did you ever get into them where you found of Gore I love war actually yes. Man I was watching some interviews on the Sally show just this morning before they embody that that I’m just remembering the lyrics and just this hilarity and discussed and satire and revulsion that they embody but it was also like so compelling and so I might think the first time I saw I was exposed to them was in that movie with Ethan Hawke called Mystery Date were they actually were at a club in the movie Theses you see that and now I think this is like the second coming so you guys should start a band 2 sped up like Punk background music almost like a noise like a handjob music video and and I love that and I love this idea of like just the spirit of DIY men porn now being something that we couldn’t really we certainly couldn’t publicize we could make it back in my you know de I guess you could say but now it’s like a you want to like make a statement you just get a camera get on a tube site and Bam like do your thing and throw some music on there so how does punk rock play into your personal life and is it part of the 1st fabric of the collected that you’re building one. oh yeah for sure man I’m a during my youth punk rock was a very inspirational and I saw the same in your videos talking about your background and growing up I’m punk rock’s been very important to me what are some of that what are some of the styles that you were gravitated towards in the in the punk movement back in the day man up Hed PE Randstad the transplants no bands like that big Marilyn Manson fan Blink-182 actually coincidence are prophets that were found throughout the internet like tortoise inside of me is actually meet the creeper by Rob Zombie Blackmagic Hed PE all the usernames actually I’m sync up to sort of 90s nu-metal punk rock band song then also I’m somewhere I’m somewhat scared to even invoked the name but it reminds me of the Juggalos in the Insane Clown Posse and like the the cultures that spin off of bands and the sort of the yeah man like it really is the glue of generations coming up together and getting into extreme music of whatever genres in I really appreciate the people who can appreciate appreciate the people who can appreciate multiple genres and be into the goth industrial Punk metal and you don’t have all of that be influences in and what not so yeah me hopefully you all will be those of you musically inclined will will start to produce tracks of your own to go with them is that something that anyone’s doing or you just talked about doing oh yeah we got to talk to her a couple bands I’m here locally in Peru and back in the states that we’re going to start getting music from and no make it more than just born doll some music videos with slower videos been equated to already right now this is what is this is what is also a very interesting layer of legal protection for us pornographers is that if there is political educational or artistic value I believe those are verbatim words that protect you from sanity laws you know then don’t quote me on it but but I’ve looked into some of this President and I know that like there’s certain things Scott blood you know there’s a list of there’s like a black list of of things that will definitely get easy obscenity prosecution happened but but a buffer I don’t know so much about exactly protect me from you no liability with those things would just in general like if you can prove that it’s has artistic value and instantly if there is a music video element and certainly there is a a message that’s coming out with with the the statements that you’re making is that the backlash against the repression of each culture I think this is a hugely I mean who for all we know they’ll be a you know Museum a traveling Museum Roadshow to like demonstrate to the world that says he’s beautiful acts of political art that you’re making I certainly feel that way about it and I know there are places you know around the within the sort of dungeon gsm network and in the even the sex positive sort of network where they would you know I would love to like see people organize a film screening like a film fest and have your videos be be like a whole night you know the phone says they’ll be great right actually obscenity laws of something that incorporate we try to walk that fine line does he know if the majority is offended then you’re in trouble that’s basically with the obscenity laws boil down to which is also why I like to call the social experiment to entertain so there is some kind of scientific value there or artistic for example in press that you knew that much about it then it’s it will get me what something is cool about what we’re both doing is like exploring these religious themes and that is usually what will get you the most backlash because people are so so neurotic about it and you know they just can’t it can’t enjoy you know even though the humorous or satirical aspect of it at all and there’s certainly people who don’t want to see anything interracial you know for fundamentalist reasons are simple you don’t want to see depictions of religious figures of course defamed and that I mean altimate sacrilege me weird then the territory of ultimate sack religion but I also feels like the Most Blessed place to be so I don’t know you go figure yeah yeah for sure man in the dangerous me about your work to I’m a big spiritual into it while I feel like I’m exploring more of those Fat Tire you take it very seriously I saw through your videos and I’m interested in that man at the beginning of this during the introduction you said that we might be coming from two different entities I was wondering if you could touch on that a little bit cuz I’m interested well well thank you I mean you’re turning your back on me a little bit I’ll try to I’ll keep it short so we can keep the focus on you and overall but but I do appreciate the conversation last back then and I’ll say that this is an interesting a very interesting juncture for what were you and I are talking about now because I would say we we live in a world where and a time where we Revenge either directly or indirectly like horribly victimized by the corrupt pedophile Empire of the Catholic church that owns more property than any other single entity on the planet in this basically mine fucked and spiritually abused everybody who’s been forced to speak English and Spanish for like centuries in that space of like spiritual violation in trauma it’s very difficult and I think the punk rock movement in an even Marxism and communism the there has been a major rebellion and backlash against all things religious all things spiritual and then and then we sort of Miss this this important more indigenous deeper element which is a Shamanism a shamanistic approach to having right relationship with the spirit world which contains parasitic entities synergistic enter the entities and sometimes neutral entities but you know having an appropriate and spiritually intelligent shamanic relationship with energies and entities that are unseen and then interacting you know socially and sexually with other human beings knowing that there’s this greater invisible landscape that’s that’s where you know the the science and mysticism really has value and end I would say like the lake will freeze apples not all demons are bad like if you just start there and so you know some of them can be trained to be your lapdogs some of them can be trained to be your assassin some of them can be trained to or contracted with and bargain to be bounty hunters or others all kinds of relationships that can be cultivated so that’s why I say it’s like you know we maybe we may be dabbling or playing with different different archetypes and energies in and you know I come I played a bunch of Death Metal I I used to carve myself up and paint pentagrams and six six six with my blood and you know that was me just sort of dabbling in the realm of Ozzy Osbourne Black Sabbath Slayer level consciousness of evil forces and then getting more into Shamanism understanding yeah you know that’s kind of a child’s play the really more sophisticated mean is going to understand the Continuum and the taxonomy of the spirit will a little more and then actually be more of a designer and not just kind of like be spoon-fed Satanism or something kind of kind of false in in fake so like I got that vibe from you on like I didn’t see this what you doing oh man this is like really cartoony want to be like poser Satanism something that I could see that there’s a deeper message in a deeper sophistication so so back back to you I guess what what how would you describe your the way you reconcile the dark and the light and you know the Divine and the hell is she there all bunch of assholes I agree and we will expose them those kind of people that sounds like the route you were going with sounds like you’ve been reading on a solemn in a little bit like the Lesser key in the ground wires you know some deeper reading material there be I know exactly where talk about those are Satanism and yeah we’re not about that mean we like cartoony and satire don’t get me wrong definitely smells better than anybody like you it’s not all that simple indeed and actually I should say to to clarify actually love the cartoon aesthetic I love anime I love graphic novels I think it’s by the best way to teach a more punk rock spirituality is through a more fun in approach in with art and so I’ve definitely made Might my logo is a cartoon as well so I should say I don’t want to put down the cartoon that’s not an insult it is it is you say like you know what what is what is the angle but I could just tell you no Tortas and sodomy there is a vibe that is being exuded where’s like I don’t think I’ve seen a happier person in my life Glee and pleasure total debaucherous Hedonism that is making this woman seemed so fucking thrilled and I think a lot of the Sexes negativity just comes down to jealousy that other people are having more fun than you are and so we’re proving to the world that did that there’s this is just more fun to be more open and more experimental Yeah man so what are some you have more kind of future plans things to do that are you rolling out today have also coming up on the horizon and we should Nova other than the corn world when do you plan on getting forming like a an LLC or Corporation or somehow in like starting to set up booths at the different porn conferences and actually having more of like a what’s your brand strategy overall or is it you’re going to keep him or kind of just DIY and oh yeah we’re definitely going to start a cult and set the world on fire there might be The Thrill Kill Kult now they say that another one people have so much fun playing with his stuff so yeah that my grandfather was a tour bus driver and he toured with the Lords of acid umbilical call back in the mid-nineties well well that explains a lot doesn’t it scare my grandfather was awesome. Manuel fucken table volume down and tipping hats to all of the the shoulders that we stand on the people who like really yes if you are there other other like industrial band influences that you like or got there in like that Nine Inch Nails all the way men there definitely awesome yeah yeah I hear you man and so have you thought about doing with say like a like a lot of a lot of strip clubs and dance clubs night clubs and stuff they will feature adult performers as feature dancers and they make tons of money doing that one if you thought about doing like a burlesque or like a cabaret show what kind of thing with if this getting some of these folks together in and actually kind of doing like a dance troupe or something very interesting I can play with that so that kind of gives you more like a I feel like this is what I’m seeing a lot of a lot of independent adult performer personalities do with their brands that don’t have like a the safe for work personas online and then a not-safe-for-work personas online and they will just wear a bunch of different hats and be like Jack’s and Jill’s of all trades in Renaissance men and women and just developed a huge you know YouTube type of following and also could be like having little teasers for pornhub or whatever and so yeah hopefully that you all can can scale up and just kind of like you said be a fucking play again infect every fucking stuff yeah for sure man and you said it best to I’m we have actually been doubling on YouTube on Wii with Channel called Trigger Happy I got to get you into Fun trouble well so is there a do you have it I would I would love to if each of you all had a Manifesto on your journey to the profile so that you know people could that’s kind of like how they did the Gwar thing right they said they had an origin story and they kind of had like they’re just rude and crude fucking coming days relatively new but yeah you definitely have the right idea everybody comes from a very unique background to wait to post this until you have the website up and running and then I can link to it and it can be a seamless experience and go and check it out that’s going to be awesome yeah yeah man I don’t think I’ll be longer than I’ll maybe Saturday we’ll have it all posted up on the website Cool all right, it’ll be on the main page Okay cool so tell us about your mysterious many what how did you evolve personally to get to to get to this point of fat that’s a hell of a story where do I start guess I was but I was bullied a lot in school and one thing led to another and I got into professional wrestling just to kind of stand up for myself and professional wrestling lead to getting into stomach work quite a bit and I was inspired a lot when I was a kid by like the Indiana Jones stunt show at Disney World and the crazy story of how it all came together but one thing led to another I got like a big following in the professional wrestling circuit and that’s what led me to want to start my own kind of parity quote and would that part of leg was born through the call aspect of it all like trying to build a following in that sell up the tube sites and all this girl into it so fucking cool man I miss something that just died just resonate with which is it everybody out there is in denial that they are trying to build the cult of personality around an idea that they have that they think is worthy of other people you know giving a time of day to and the the level of transparency that she have about like that I just thought it was Dirty parody cold and just be real enough to put words in your mouth but I really respect that and I really think we should just if we were more honest about the really you if you if you have a creative idea and your wealth with for one there’s a difference of two types of people almost in this world I think it’s like you have producers and consumers you know and if you’re not making a movie out of your life Urban going to be an extra in someone else’s life movie and that’ll be all she wrote you know so so you can stand up yeah you have your idea you birth your EBT you have your brainchild and your you create a monster and if you want people to participate in the in the cult of your band or the cult of your your graffiti art or the cold or whatever it is there’s no shame in that and the only shame is when everybody isn’t their own coat here you know the only shame as if you were you’re not also doing your own thing and rotating that the attention that power so I thought I’d like this ensemble cast that you created and you may be the founder but doesn’t sound like you’re the o’mighty overlord is going to be hypnotized and manipulate people of sounds like people have a lot of autonomy and it’s more of a saturated cold if you will Geico life worth writing about with right somebody else’s life story well that’s a good one yeah and then Jim Morrison said did you have a good world when you died Jim Morrison and get stuff and get stuff for me about if you don’t want to tell the story of how you expatriate it and is that appropriate to share or what was that you want to tell the story of cuz you’re no longer in that did you expatriate from the US or you can you tell that story of where you’re you got relocated oh yeah yeah yeah I can do that no problem I’m currently living down in arequipa Peru and I got married back in 2015 and sleep I was taking care of my grandparents to lay passed away and decided to just move here with my wife instead not a very interesting story okay so now it’s I’m frustrated because you’re there you get to observe is like so you’re deep cover operative Tortas and sodomy doing this very taboo and in in Latin America you don’t fuck around and break with the Catholic Church you know there’s serious fucking mobster mafia-style death squads all connected to that shit and I will be I will be scared shittless fbe rocking that boat yet you all are doing a very blessed me and I’m sending my prayers to you to have all the protection that you need but I’m just curious if you have a sense of operational security around you know the there being any kind of backlash that isn’t just you know what backlash from people who are like real extreme haters that they might want to you know that you might want to be Detroit wheel and consider a threat I’m just curious if you have like a if you guys are fucking training with weapons and your bad ass isn’t going to be able to fucking slice-and-dice anybody that steps in your path or what right you had to take that shit very seriously and no I wouldn’t say there’s any training or protection needed men we like the open about it we’re not really scared we like being in people’s faces so you want them to know standing there with bells on that’s cool you know I also it’s a notice something interesting doing a lot of webcamming myself is that there seems to be a huge underground industry of webcamming Studios all throughout Latin America because I would assume that I’m not to be classes store a racist but I would assume that just a car like the it not everybody is going to have a super-fast Wi-Fi you know in their home not everybody’s going to have that all of the equipment needed so there’s more of like a of a camping Studio industry that I see where it looks like there’s groups of friends and couples you know it won’t show up and and basically give the house they’re cut but then they will have their show and I’ll do the county show and they’re just more just more of a studio based business model than like a home-based business model that you have in quote-unquote more developed countries and I could be totally projecting I could be totally wrong Lion Inn in misinformed and in presumptions about that but if that is the case where that makes me very interested to explore and discover is like what I witnessed on these webcamming sites is literally these collectives and teams there is like one called the best friends team or something and I think they were competing against each other for the most tips in a session whatever witnessing this new team sport of young people expressing themselves sexually in figuring out the most beautiful and elegant yogic configurations of mutual pleasure and orgies and just watching them add more logs for the fire and is a we haven’t seen this on Earth for thousands of years and it’s all coming out because of the financial incentive of webcamming where people who are rich basically and developed country term so-called are able to shower money onto the impoverished young people and hopefully not minors that’s you know knock on wood that they’re doing appropriate age verification but is it but what’s happening is that there’s a financial incentive to break every fucking Christian taboo of homosexuality and I’m watching beautiful friends doing all kinds of freaky by sexual stuff with no shame whatsoever and they’re just laughing and smiling and carrying on like you’ve never seen anybody and four Americans are on antidepressants it’s because they’re not they’re not having team sport webcamming sessions with all the male and female and trans friends like these blessed souls in South America near you’re not wrong you’re actually very very correct somebody puts their house up basically and they have a good internet connection and computer Hino capable of me know doing the camping and dumb they they kind of just like ask around for like models and couples and they come over and they do their thing for a few hours and the next couple comes in and I’m letting something that happens a lot here in South America Peru is kind of a conservative country although it’s some getting a lot more open lately but I noticed the profiles from Colombia Argentina and Brazil but a lot of those are actually Venezuelans and I’m sure you’ve heard about the political problems and oppression there right now so a lot of them are coming from Venezuela and masking their eye peas and make it look like they’re from his other countries that helps a lot but you’re totally correct about them the house internet sharing with friends I would love to make a good net fix the Netflix documentary about this phenomenon cuz I was on that I will be on camming and I would just be in order to keep myself aroused you know I would just be like thumbing through other people camping at the same time and sometimes you even be looking at each other at the same time from across the world like like working working yourself into a frenzy just like looking in the first night I just I’m on there like they’re with their on my stream and I’m on there seem like we’re actually fucking like don’t even know but we’re like beating up to each other. It’s just it’s so interesting man it’s like so social diesel Viagra and bring it back to you and then for no plague is that have you thought about creating a dedicated stream where you have different models come on under that title or maybe they have their own James but they going to represent the brand and so there’s like a a sort of aggregate Network effect true prophets and play games on whenever you watch a video on the tube sites we have the promotional links and advertising and if applicable it’ll take you to that models a webcam channeling opiate ChatterBait or jam.for wherever they come from most of our models are webcam models cool man that now I’m going to eat that’s going to cost me a few a few hundred hours in my life catching up on what I’m missing out on this because this is and it’s so cool and so interesting and fun and I guess I get bored easily with the typical whatever porn whatever camming and so if there’s this sort of cult conspiracy cabal thing happening it’s growing in in kind of fun taking over and eventually you know could be some sort of a revolution and then that’s very exciting hell yeah it’s happening man for sure cool and well I would yeah I’d say I’m like this is now something I’m extremely thrilled about almost more than anything else I’m aware of going on I’m pretty pretty bored with a lot of the things that I’ve been involved in for a long time so it says it’s especially exciting as a as things continue to grow and develop feel free to hit me up and would love to have you back on or if you have other other prophets that would like to come on but it’s an open invitation or anyone else Affiliated I think this is really something I would like to to keep stay aware of into to help promote and certainly they had the spirit of punk and a spirit of Gwar you know I love to just go in there is the notion of poetic terrorism you know when you can take that to be artistic you can just take that it’s like we don’t you know the pain is mine oh you know what I realized if you if you heard the expression the pen is mightier than mightier than the sword what happens if you take the space out between 10 and is between pain and Ms I can see if you was at there’s a typo if it was a typo and you forgot to add the space between those two words how would that read the pen mightier than the sword but don’t take out is just take out the space between pain and is penis the penis muscle that’s my new motto that’s awesome in every book of the Bible to pee so like the first one is Genesis and exodus Gods coming then well yeah again let’s let’s follow up in the future and and I’m glad to be a vector of this this plague transmission and hopefully whoever is listening to this and your blood’s been boiling and you know your ear your hair is turning white and you’re just mortified that I would be so so loose in my my spiritual correctness well this is this is something for you too to meditate on deeply into really appreciate that this is the this is the The Reaping of what was selling by by the sex negativity so we’re going to we’re going to come at you and it’s going to be raw and fun no I had a blast man I think we have a lot in common and you just bringing me back to some of the The Glory Days of when I had even when I had more brass balls you know my balls are getting a little bit jaded a little bit tarnished to it over the years we could polish them off make shiny brass balls again I am here man cool man all right will any other things you want to share again once again give the websites and and then we’ll call the show oh yeah I know that about do it man I just want to say I really appreciate you inviting me on to spend fun talking to somebody who’s similar minded and that about do anything cool and so that’s porno play calm and all of your all of the other sites are just link from there so people should just start there and go down the rabbit hole that’ll work well I appreciate looking forward to the updates and we’ll be in touch soon and take care and have a good one Township Park. 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Eco-Punks Hacking The Permaculture Design Course TPP208

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In this episode I’m joined by my revered permaculture teacher and issuer of my permaculture design certificate. To protect his identity and allow him appropriate distance from the extreme edginess (permies will laugh) of my current path, he’s taken on a sci fi pseudonym. We discuss the origin story of our epic collaborative brother-from-another-motherhood. We bonded instantly many years ago over our mutual love of nature, science, diy tech, radical activism, the punk politics of resistance, and the unmatched sophistication of subversiveness to be found in the permaculture design movement.

At the time our paths crossed, I had been exposed to permaculture for about 10 years, but only within the year previous to our meeting in the late 2000s had I become seriously engaged in study of the design science. He appeared in my life at the best of all times for me to appreciate his insights and accomplishments. I put my best efforts into earning his respect and approval as a budding permaculturalist. As per the original intent of the founders of permaculture, certified designers are encouraged to develop a mastery of the system in order to embolden them to create their own certification course curriculum with adherence to the fundamental contents and structure of the original permaculture design course. I was blessed to establish a barter relationship with him so that I had an extended mentorship which included and transcended the standard PDC curriculum with more oversight and technical support than would be normally accessible in a traditional 72 hour course. My one-on-one training took place over the course of about a year and a half. He provided guidance through my designs spanning apartment scale gardens, to a warehouse parking lot edible park installation,  to semi-rural farmstead, and various business and community projects in between.

The intent of our discussion in this episode beyond reminiscing on the past, was to establish the integrity of the lineage of my training, and once again seek approve for one of my designs, in this case, the design of my customized permaculture design course curriculum, an adaptation of the way he provided the course for me.

To be expected, I integrate elements of eco and sacred sexuality with tasteful aesthetics and scientific maturity, he provides his feedback and ultimate approval. We share a sense of deep honoring for the irrepressible hacker mindset of the co-founder Bill Mollison. We dare to presume he’d be proud of my attempts to design for the sector of sexual energy, which without a doubt is the most powerful, yet least valued and most poorly managed energy flow pattern in sustainable human settlement design and engineering.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin eligible events Wall, Township on podcast episode number 2089 being joined by Paul Atreides who is the mysterious figure who has played a very important role in my my personal development as a permaculture a designer’s he is the man who I would say provided for me a one-on-one very intensive long-term permaculture training that resulted in me having the confidence in me to issue me the coveted permaculture design certificate which is a 2 to display to the world saying that one has completed the 72-hour minimum course curriculum to be then qualified to operate commercially using the word permaculture according to the guidelines laid out by the the co-founder Bill Mollison many years ago that the late great Bill Mollison and so for those who are not familiar with the term permaculture we’ll get into that a bit but it’s it’s part of how I promote my work as a permaculture designer and Tantra accounts that help people grow spiritually sexually and ecologically and I really feel that I’ve been able to bring a permaculture perspective to a lot of the healing modalities that are out there that sort of what’s often considered woo and new age and energy work and all that you know really bringing a grounded earth science perspective to my work and and all that really comes literally thanks to this man here who for various reasons we’re going to keep his his true identity obscured but we’ll just kind of get into what I what I intend to do is is take this topic of Tanks hacking permaculture to tell both of our stories about how we became radicalized through the punk rock movement and got into college activism and in basically at some point discovered the glory of the permaculture design system and then put our hacker Minds to work to figure out how to count of Avail ourselves of more open source content and actually start to open source permaculture that was its original intention anyway so it was supposed to be resistant to proprietary mechanisms resistant to Academia and but also conducive to people’s right livelihood and conducive to successful businesses and all of that is encoded into the prime directive in the ethics but you know something I’ve come to to know and love and I have grapes with certain aspects of how the movement has evolved then we’re going to talk a bit about our feelings are true feelings about about that stuff too so this is hopefully just going to be a a primer on what what the punk attitude how the punk attitude approaches the permaculture design system and how both of us are working and there are various ways to to really further further the the objectives that that we’ve been working towards for so long using this technology so with all that said call please share what you would like to do about your journey discovering permaculture where you what you’ve accomplished with it within your boundaries of of secrecy about your you know personal details and in time place and manner but maybe some of your accomplishments and and certainly how you’re feeling about the movement today and then we’ll go from there yeah I think you mentioned in any little bit more time and you conversation were now was the creation and Company drive for college activism and full and total Embrace of the Bay Area radical Anarchist activist movement or late night into the early 2000s and there was an awful lot of activities going on that were crime initiate and instigate and inspire people like being in myself to further educate ourselves and look into interesting things about ecology and direct action and art and we can put on different lenses and and look at landscape in different ways and throughout those experiences and Inspirations and I was introduced to the idea permaculture alongside with the writings of philosophical take on natural farming we’re just of enormous impact in my view of the world and my desire to a brave nature and and push a naturalistic approach to rewilding or not necessarily rewilding but even gardening in harmony I’ll take a moment to push this back to YouTube and and and see if anything that I just mentioned kind of jumped out at you and there’s a point that we should send out a little bit more and me and the sky oh yeah I think if we’re going on a certain timeline maybe we could talk about just the from a Terence McKenna perspective there’s this like a Creo time-wave coiling of of of of history repeating where I would say the the anti-globalization movement was a sort of unfortunately not as maybe right maybe it was maybe it wasn’t but it certainly was like the closest thing to a Berkeley 60s movement that had there has been since 9/11 and like we both had that experience of a major boost in that belief that we were part of something timely that we were part of a revolution that we could like almost snap our fingers and topple the entire global system of you know the power elite and that we had you know we had the numbers we had the intelligence and but it also wasn’t sustainable in failed and numerous ways and I’m wondering if I have for you if you want to talk about how the the deeper timelines that permaculture opens up those intergenerational timelines of Earth repair and stewardship you know how that reconciled for you because I fucking burnt out after that yeah that’s that’s really interesting point in the in the 90s to be a more powerful experience than being in Seattle in November 1999 Seattle protest with kind of AA Earth shattering experience if you will or a young eco-activist it was like it was happening it would happen and things were going and you’re absolutely right it’s there seems to be a pressure on on the world bad things were going to change and things were going to be different because it’s people power couple of things to my timeline changed shortly after that I finished calling and the role that I felt I had so much agency in campus activism and so looking for other avenues to exercise the distance our inspiration art, culture whatever you want to call it I was able to hunt down experiences I’m on farm and odd jobs and several International permaculture experiences in putting a PDT in Central America and Pacific in Central America as well my in an ecological framework for you in the latter part of 1000 seconds. Mutual previous experiences with and later drive toward permaculture are an expedition and restoration really drove by a friendship and and collaboration that I know you personally took some major inspiration from and took the opportunity in having a relationship with me through really dive into permaculture stuff and and build York as he did mention time to talk about that yeah I would yet not to reveal anything about you know the the circumstances but it was all of my best efforts to create a sort of lightning rod you know Lighthouse effect of green Consciousness into the punk rock movement like this was still internet was not that sophisticated around the mid-2000s but it was sophisticated enough to wear if I recall you were you would found my old website and where I was doing a lot of you know community outreach doing different projects in the you know I miss SoCal area and and Beyond and just kind of really really trying to find the punks who were not born to die in the gutter like the discharge song in that were actually like figuring out how to reclaim the lost his penis that we that we lost when we when we threw out all the tie dye and you know it’s it landed for some people you know we were able to maintain a certain you know edgy vibin aesthetic but also get you no punks into Gardens and it was you know to me at that time I was you know in my mid-twenties I was trying to create the infrastructure for a healthy ecological Punk hood that I didn’t have when I was a teenager and so it’s always that idea of like living vicariously through through the Next Generation if you can to like kind of fuel yourself from the wounds that you were that you were a mistakes you made it or not so I built this organization and and it was bringing in like lots of of it was really effective at at resonating with people at in finding him so you would come into that. Medium and and that sort of modality tunnel and and at that time I was ya like you said very enthusiastic and charge to two how to get my head wrapped around permaculture and get get to doing it like there’s so many practical modules of experience that you want to have once you start to learn about it and you just want to be like guess I can check that off I have experience doing this and that and that Matt and I kind of cleaned from you when we had started creating a sort of time banking sort of relationship to exchange value and and you were basically my consultant on retainer and I would have your input and an oversight over my very very humble and very microscale to begin with no permaculture designs and you were Supply me with seeds Doc and worms and all of the starter kit stuff as well as the very Advanced and high-level intelligence and and pattern thinking and all of that the more just a more advanced find a Specs on top of the the Practical stuff and the actual cuttings from New Zealand spinach you know it’s like if you haven’t had somebody give you a cutting from New Zealand spinach then basically go home cuz you haven’t even started doing okay you know what it’s like those of those moments where you realize holyshit what what can’t you propagate vegetatively you know now I want to know where I can just go to the local you know Mexican food forest garden in in in like oh and trim things coming out of the defenses and and just stick them in pots and see what sprouts and then end up having grapefruit grape Vines and passion fruits you know choking you to death and all that fun stuff so I mean that’s what comes to mind thinking about how you were able to sort of get me set in motion and in and that was a good I don’t know you’re maybe couple years of pretty much ya me really a greeting from you everything and anything that I could end and I think Dad we’re just we were just figuring out how to kind of hack the LA landscape and the SoCal Landscaping literally hacking off cuttings of things in literally knowing how to spot a legume Tree in a Home Depot parking lot. yeah absolutely it’s a practice in observation of your surroundings and pattern recognition to actually realize what resources you have there I think what you had set up for your website with was very compelling in in several senses as I will keep spinning back to the to the Punk theme but so many aspects of the little punk eco-activist literature in underground DIY magazines from existence do inside products to anything produced by crimefeed or Slug and lettuce there was just such a a vivid body of riding of people doing things other places in the country where if she needs easier to grab Squat and start propagating 606 resor to get something going east coast remember vividly remember reading I think it was where people were you know pack keep moss and Kudzu seeds and and bombing freeway on-ramp and overpass areas just to Rebecca Tate in a create Wildlife Corridor so do you need an inspiring and your connection with the with a puncture unity and what you were trying to create with your organization was an excellent way to connect with something like that and he said I was able to help you out bring you inspiring little super easy things like I need healing spinach cuttings or starter just an interesting thing that can happen when people have inspiration and some passion and even just a little bit of awareness of what they can do to try and get things going yeah man as you say that I’m thinking about all of the places that that tiny little bag of worms propagated to to out so many different people who were who were got that is like at a supply and and they live on to this day and then like they’re the happiest worms that ever lived you know a safe and well taken care of night that’s what’s so beautiful is like you just you get in alignment with I think you know one of your favorite sayings back in the day was and you can probably fill them you know the gap of of where you heard it from but life creates the conditions conducive to more life and that’s kind of like a you know if I see it like a Zen meditation calling you know you can really take that to the fucking bank unit I will jump in real quick and and attribution to that phrase and sentiment and that is teaching from Janine benyus and the organization that is doing absolutely beautiful work to inspire engineers and designers to draw inspiration from nature as well as generate reason to preserve nature and wild men and sacred leave Revere what and it’s all good I think it’s just a distinctly and beautifully captured in an utterance like life created conditions conducive to more life and that’s just totally beautiful you can meditate on that for years and enjoy wear those. And meditation on tell me what was the name of the organization again I got you said Janine Vina Jack Janine Pena venue and they would certainly be easily found with some Google cool alright so with all that said for people who have not discovered much about permaculture I think it would be good idea to episode and I’ll put a link in the show notes in fact I will I will tell I can tell you in just a second which episode it was right now one second it is it is episode number 114 where I did intro to permaculture in ecological design and that was just a a mini-lecture that I gave in a backyard permaculture site that I was working on it was also a budding goddess Temple of swords and and so in that episode you can get more of Amore fully developed introduction to permaculture experience on this podcast but it would be great to just for the sake of this one bring it back to you in your own words as a student like for you to be a student Bill Mollison is like studying Jeep Commando with someone with the you know Dan inosanto and end with Bruce Lee sensitive like a lineage to the source that I appreciate as well and I think you know it’s kind of I don’t know what to say straight but but they’ve adapted the permaculture design course in ways that I think are great it’s appropriate for it to be adapted but there is something to say I guess I should say if you’re up permaculture designer there’s enough Bill Mollison material out there in enough sort of ripped PVC audio and video files out there that that you should know what the source of the original course how that was you know the the structure of how this information was shared by him so I guess I would say it’s if it’s valuable for me to hear you say now especially now years later from your Beginnings in my Beginnings like if you’re asked to introduce this subject to people what’s your elevator pitch for it for permaculture okay I can’t give Justice with an elephant in the elevator pitch is the marriage of the idea that permanent NP sustained through culture so culture does not have to degrade nature Mall smart energy usage can be put toward building resilient Landscapes and cultures that have the ability to become richer and more stable over time that you did it. You nailed it now you can go a feel free for that what I call the stuck in the elevator pitch where you get to just go off and stuff with me so you know Paul Atreides and his words can kill cell would love to have the cloak of anonymity for for certain aspects of things that I could stay right right now Genesis of a permaculture as a marketing started with with Bill Moulton and call Bill Morrison from experiment but really good at marketing and people like you and I with so many brilliant ideas that we couldn’t stop thinking about it it seems so that you know and normally is satisfied disaffected 20 some year old would probably most likely be playing video game chose to read something like a 10 pounds text book about pattern languages and trees and climate and climate tropes and and I don’t know if some other topics from the manual back out there they caught your attention that you spent hours reading on bed yeah for me I see the chapter 14 stuff about the some of the more social I mean obviously I loved all of the ecological stuff but when it got to the the chapter 14 material all about how we can actually hack and re-engineer our social and economic Dynamics to share abundance and to really I mean you know I mean how many how many punk shows did I preach at to the crowd and every half the people were blacked out there was unconscious on consensual basically off all forms of rape all forms of violence all forms of just complete debauchery and just I mean so the and then and then suppose that two is like super hyper leftist socialist organizations that would be a protest and I’m like well they seem like they’ve got people kind of like saluting this ideology and they said somewhat more organized and they get more shit done but then it’s like I got this authoritarian by band and I didn’t see and then you have people like maybe the the hippies and the Rastafarians in Arab super into the Dow of the soil and there’s snow raising their joint to their third eye and they’re super cool looking up at the sky gazing with you know what their eyes closed looking to sign of my I wanted a little bit of all of that I wanted a bit if I discipline my bit of order you know a bit of debauchery and Chaos a bit of Eco spirituality and the social permaculture aspects that the things that got me most thrilled on top of all the ecological stuff which I love and I’m super into the missive of hacking all of these different Gifts of no way they would call ecological Services you know any ecology textbook and improvement course you weren’t just learn to think like MacGyver you know I mean if you like the ATM you like MacGyver and you like to solve problems and build things that were the super elegant but super crafty DIY Contraptions and get all of these amazing functions out of out of this elegant designs like that that really like the practical application turn me on so much but the thing that turn me on the most was definitely this is sense that there is a pathway for word that is is going to steal me from all my cynicism about human about someone called human nature but it’s just like the what felt like an impossible task of like bootstrapping a revolutionary movement everything in chapter 14 and everything about how we can build these these harmonious guilds and treat human human cultural design like a garden and really bring out people’s know what the bare minimum sort of professional development is needed to have like I’ve never seen that really mapped out before like Yeah so basically you you would motivate these different peoples that you have like a bare minimum kind of survival pod you know that you could take this to any environment and the way that it just was this growing mandala that was the most impressive thing to me that that would that all been thawed out and so being able to design the resilient communities in and having Financial awareness and legal awareness 10 but also having him so much of the financial and legal awareness to know about things like protecting your risk Ventures by relinquishing them into a non-profit not just as a tax shelter but to protect yourself from the bad guys and the court like you want to fight corporate rule you have to basically, she put them in the capitalist Marketplace but then protect your intellectual property your land your equipment your seeds that may be competing with Monsanto or whatever and you have to basically use Jedi Mind Tricks against the status quo to protect yourself and just that sophistication of subversive like I’ve never seen anything on that level of sophistication when it comes to being a subversive it’s like this isn’t breaking Windows this isn’t lighting should on fire this isn’t fucking even protesting this is like you says in in grave danger of falling food you know he wasn’t going to say in the forest but almost wasn’t going to just stay in the forest disgusted with Humanity after the 60s he was going to fight back with positivism and not let the bastards roll over everything and he fucking sat there and he absorbed the intelligence of the Fleming also the food for a semi so I always say two things does the aha moment of the food forest and the the Tactical strategic financial and political subversion of chapter 14 if that if that sums it up awesome permaculture MacGyver moment if you will fill I spent some quite a bit of time in the tropics permaculture stuff and some of the forefathers dad got their original training from Bill Mollison in the very very early days who were it’s the Wizards the Elders of Agriculture had an awesome story and and the guy removed and strategies and tactics that are kind of ninja like in and you know it illegal permaculture syncing really affect you and you want to bring it over so you want all of your options you can possibly have with with Steve and Diane wood or fruit growing in and developing diapers food for everything really try till Sunday characters awesome stories about and surrounding trees that they wanted to bring into their country but of course you know there’s and they’re happy to be so many interesting people develop new varieties in Hawaii there were several stories about how the perfect sign wood trimming and fit inside of a snorkel and nobody would ever suspect agricultural Contraband coming through inside of a snorkel case in your graphing techniques it’s very possible to bring in a snorkels worth of the fruit tree that you want to develop and 20 years later you’ve got a genetic stop there that you can share with your community or develop into your own Orchard or maybe it’s going to feel who know if you’ve got amazing MacGyver mentalities doing cool thing with Biology to make their dreams happen and that’s inspiring DIY right for sure for sure and I guess so maybe now we can talk a bit about the the more computer hackers having his stuff like for me you know I was I’m code a little late for the most part I’m good I can cut and paste code you know I can read a little bit but not much and I pretty much rely on the the cyberguy gods above me but I’ve always found ways to I’ve always known crew to ask questions to and who to befriend you know in a symbiotic and not parasitic way hopefully for the most part but I can just go through the chapters of my life knowing like if you’re a revolutionary and you don’t have a geek in your squad like you’re just forget about it you know not not in the modern world like you need to have somebody to help you with that so I’ve always had you know kind of a assassination and and and a love of those who really understood the inner workings of cyberspace more than I did and whatnot in Uno which is kind of like dabble here and there but I’ve used you know I’ve built websites I’ve run and ministered e-commerce and you know I’ve had to just learn whatever I had to learn to do the thing that I wanted to do but I wasn’t like a generalist them in computer science or math anything like that and I certainly a late bloomer to crypto but one of the things that was floating around the internet and are in our era was this thing called the permaculture party pack which was this cycle somebody did the work of compiling this ridiculously absurd compilation of obscure and NM just totally mind-blowing permaculture and otherwise agricultural sustainable teaching tools and and that was just floating around the radical underground for quite a while and probably yeah but I still out there I don’t you know I think that the times have changed a little bit but what I like to talk about is that what you and I are agreed upon at a certain point was that after I had done essentially a number of projects in the number of scales at a number of sites and was starting to I guess get past my get a few you know a few belts an endermite in a few karate belts from the dojo so to speak now and then to go for that black belt of being a certified designer if you want to call it that obvious lyrics degrees beyond that but I wanted to feel like I wanted to have more confidence as a as it as you know at least there a junior-level instructor and I wanted to have more confidence to do workshops in Tofino start to Branch out and and and taking more of a leadership role within you know my community and the larger community and actually build a career doing what I now love to be doing which is all this fun stuff and so we decided that the and I pitched and I’m like well if the if the canonical tagari release of the 72-hour course with Bill Mollison in Geoff Lawton. I believe it Melbourne University I believe somewhere in Australia there was that digitized that what that time it was like I mean it would take however long for people to download that file bit to download that party pack but in that party pack there was that collection of those DVDs which I went ahead later and purchased the legit package of it so that I could feel confident that I had that there was at least one licensed copy in my in my possession so that I wouldn’t be standing upon you know a a a sort of pirated body of knowledge but basically Meep same to you okay look you know I don’t have the money to go off to a permaculture farm and give them two or three grand and take the time off of work to go do that you know I don’t I could I could do the more accessible version of like the local out two weekends a month or one weekend a month thing but also I just don’t have the the capital for it’s still just like a starving artist bunker you know just like not not having that manifest met abundance so so really the hacker mentality and both of us kind of I would say led to this understanding the berries that they’re there is a demand for people who want to take the course and be certified and do this right but there needs to be a more or pants or Sam or at your own pace and more accessible to low-income folks way of approaching is so I took the time myself to watch all of the take notes on and watch all of the course DVD set basically a digitized version of that which was the 72-hour course and then lead the permaculture a designer’s manual cover to cover and have done my design practicum which was all of the projects you had you know supervise me doing over the course of our that long that was a year or more and then we decided that the talent show that out there the requisite of a talent show was Satisfied by you coming to go see my pump down once that was that and then from that point you gave me that seal of approval printing me a certificate and and I I did the research to know and I have citations and quotes of Geoff Lawton saying things to be effective basically in the the spirit of it in the beginnings and you know that I sent you there was like it was basically a Each one teach one kind of approach like if you took the course it would behoove you to master the curriculum enough to be able to go out and teach your own course in the end you know there’s there is some guidance around getting a diploma and nervous but there was lacking infrastructure and then obviously a Changing of the Guard with Moses and passing and and Lawton taking over and now the PRI thing there was a battle the feud between the permaculture Institute in New Mexico and the Permaculture Research Institute and luckily nothing too ugly in terms of like Court battles over you know the trademark or anything but it’s been pretty much the wild west and was kind of like a the industry will sort itself out if your reputable teacher and people like what you do and you know people see that you’re your designs actually work then you will have a sort of natural laissez-faire kind of libertarian approach to who gets to own this title and you know we we took on me I took that and ran with it and I said okay I’m going to do this sort of open-source versioning of a of a PDC and we know we got that Goin and then what that ultimately led to was at the height and peak of my having taken that PVC and run with it is that I made arrangements with the at the time this was Circa 2013 and I was in a location where I had Urban semi-rural small-scale over 10 acres of of a canvas to play with him and I had developed a canvas over the course of about a year and installed the the worm compost in multiple ponds and multiple kitchen Gardens and a food Forest you know a fledgling Food Forest and there was the zone that is so Nation theory of putting multiple concentric circles of different areas of interaction based on how often you going to need to use them. Just in a nutshell I’m going to say that to throw it out there for people that permaculture Zone Theory and basically I I was doing things by the book and I wanted to create a permaculture Training Center where world class instructors could come there and based on the infrastructure that I had installed they would be able to teach their flavor of permaculture and that was tested when we brought the war and brush who is still one of my ultimate favorite permaculture a designer’s because of his spiritual spirituality and his work with indigenous people around the world and and his storytelling and he’s definitely and he did he did the design for Amma the hugging in a so the Tantra he is to me the fucking time should permaculturist par exsalonce cuz he took the design for almost Center and I was there at Quail Springs when he was working on it and you showed me that a time so that I’m not fucking dropping names right now I had him out there chords for weekend and for me that was like the the real ribbon-cutting on the value of the work you had done to train me and to facilitate me and guide me like if he can come out there and he can you know look at this this design on this property and he can teach from it then I know I’m you know I’m on the right path and that that gave me the confidence from that point to reach out to managing director of The Pri USA and invite him over to that site and Pitch to him that he authorized me to have the authority to replicate the PDC format basically that you and I did which is that you know you should have asked you should be able to be you know given access to the the tagari canonical bilmos Geoff Lawton DVD set if we purchase a license for it and we have it available for folks that that should be you know something to do Explorer and and to potentially approval obviously there’s probably more intricate licensing that that could and should be done but at least the concept was there for me to share with him and the idea that a senior permaculture designer could come in and basically a couple times a year take a batch of students who had gone through that DVD course and who had done work on that property you took basically as they’re going to the course they’re actually okay so now you do a course module now you go out to the property where there are Works in progress of the different modules of the different functional parts of the design whether it’s like repairing the chicken factory or extending the moving some material around a building at a thermophilic compost whatever it is is all of those things are are are just in the flow influx happening on the property so you should be able to do the the in the classroom study material and then go out on the land and do the Practical aspect of it build the skills and develop the skill sets and then also have access to the designer’s manual which now if I do it if I do it now I’m going to say we’d have the students read the introduction to permaculture ebook rather than the designer’s manual because I think that’s sufficient to get people going no without having to go through all of that technical minutiae which is a fucking rocket science in the In The Bleak the big black book but that was where it left off and then you know for me all hell broke loose I had a spiritual emergency and I had to let it all just biodegrade everything I had built basically we just brought it in place and things fell apart for me financially and I’m personally but but that that outline for a at your own pace in low-income open source PBC it still exists and now as of this very moment I’m being called to to bring it back to life so that’s why I really wanted to have you on and for us to talk shop about this about the punk rock ethics and the hacker ethics and the the sort of I mean I think I think if I had the opportunity to meet with Bill on the astral plane and he knows that I went on the fucking Joan Rivers show and fucking brat and I brought the permaculture to the Joan Rivers show and she was happy she wanted to be trans apocalyptic she wanted to fucking bring the chickens into the into her backyard and turn her fucking swimming pool into a fish pond that was something that bill Mollison would fucking give me a pat on the back for it I would say so anyway that’s just that’s me sort of giving my my my dissertation defense if you will there anybody out there who is like wanting to show me or love me for this I had to just going to bring it out like that so and now you can tell me you know what you think about my my fucking my evil plans to conquer the world with benevolent egalitarian and access the permaculture it is an idea that has been wanting to happen for as long as as as long as has been teaching class like he said it it does go back to the very beginning every student should become a teacher of the permaculture are in there all right and it should have been affected in their mind enough that they would want to teach people that is freaking awesome don’t you realize you could be building soil there that you realize it could be slowing down water there don’t you realize you could be generated vegetation and any other ideas I meant to be shared and it spread at some people absolutely need to pay for it and pay full price and other people need that access that inspiration for free just like it has he said your your Sweat Equity I wouldn’t call it free your Sweat Equity and and willingness to indulge your self in the information and workout it that was the equity required to get you access to the knowledge to enjoy playing with permaculture and make it fruitful for yourself and your community and it seems like another inflection point where it’s about to become even more purple which is awesome yeah man I’m going to I’m going to try as it is another funny bit here if you’re good to go for another few minutes how are you doing on time and cool alright so I think that this would be a fun sort of you know pecan on the experience to get into not to get too deep into the well this this is more fun than the people who are who are more used to hearing me talk about sexy time stuff on this podcast this is where it is and it is that you know when I was when I mentioned being on the urban Homestead ish Farm property in LA area this was around 2012-2013 my past with sex work with with extreme activism with punk rock like all that stuff was was compartmentalised and shelved away because at that time I was developing with a very astute love partner business partner who who shall remain unnamed for now but if you if you watch the Joan Rivers show you can see us together at at are at the peak of our glorious as a power couple that was manifesting and you know kicking ass and taking names but she cleaned up my act a lot when I met her I was talking about the zombie apocalypse and I was putting out punk rock jeans called survive 2012 and a head fucking like I took Boy Scouts clipart and I put Mohawks and fucking like studs on it very much in that the deep in the crust Punk aesthetic and the profane existence call him was going and it was like we’re getting ready for the zombie apocalypse and permaculture the only fucking way the punks are going to survive you know I wasn’t thinking about marketing to West LA high-end clientele and getting on the Joan Rivers show that was all that the Witchcraft of this dear woman who was a very wealthy woman you had a very amazing career and basically she was suno pruning those aspects of Authority or aspects of my my true character and and I I respected it I was like cool with you know being kind of funeral just having to up my professional game and in change my parents a little bit and then be able to work with her and work together and build a brand and we we built this brand that it’s also going to be sort of it he has had it’s it’s it’s our cue nobody needs it’s going to come back but really it was an opportunity for me to engage with Society at large on a totally different level toy different ear and so we were creating opportunities for very family-friendly brand and marketing and in and what not and so you know we put together a portfolio of our projects and what we have been doing on the property together and what our brand was trying to do and I had like a I even had a suit Panico superhero mascot that I was doing and very much working at the the G-rated and mainstream kind of level of approaching people and business development of What Not and so it one of the the things that we did since she who is so well-connected is if there is a very one of the most famous actors of all time was a friend of hers was one of his his top assistant was a close friend of hers and the friend of of the property and what not and and we thought she was like we need to pitch all the stuff we’re doing to have a reality TV show we want to do a reality TV show of how we’re doing permaculture and survival and you know it can be something that’s like very very mainstream friendly and what not and so I put together a bunch of stuff for a little packet oral presentation and we showed the guy we’re doing this and we’re doing that and we’re doing this and that and this and that and he looks at anyssa psych not he’s scratching his head and it’s like kind of frustrated and kind of distraught and he basically just says I’m sorry guys I hate being a basic hate to be cynical but people aren’t going to be interested in this like it’s too it’s too G-rated you need basically you need to make you said you need to make permaculture sexy and he meant that as more of like if you want to compete with people’s eyeballs for attention like it’s going to have to be edgier than than than what you’re doing and how you’re not going to maybe you know your mascot could become the next SpongeBob or something but most likely you know you need to just like except how cynical about this reality is and and think about you know you would have to be asking you would have to be if you want to reality TV show it has to all be about sexual politics and drama amongst adults or teens and that’s the only way anything’s going to sell it so just you know either do that or do you not think I’m sad and disappointing and it was kind of a cliffhanger but as I as you know from that point if you were to cut the movie script right there is cut the scene there of him planting that seed and then I go through my Dark Night of the soul and everything kind of dissolves in Melts the way and I go through this hero’s journey into the Shadow and come out as a sex worker and has like a sexual wounded sexual healer and I become a tantric Shaman and all this fancy-schmancy you know stuff and start getting back into doing porn and and it’s like but I never stopped being a fucking as a permaculture designer and I never stopped seeing opportunity to transmute and transform waste into resources and valuing the fucking marginal so I’m like I look at making permaculture sexy and I said thinking about you know I’m doing all these Landscaping gigs in Beverly Hills and west side and stuff it’s like I wonder who has the Landscaping contract for the Playboy Mansion because give me the damn shame that I can just imagine all these bunnies with no no carrots to eat out of their own permaculture Garden like somebody needs to sell that now that is what if I pitch that to that guy now hey we’re going to make permaculture sexy let us do a permaculture Makeover at the Playboy mansion and we can take pictures of the bunnies eating carrots and they grew themselves you know that that’s where I started to bring the the perfect culture you know aspect back together and Bill Mollison is definitely a lecherous bastard and in and there’s plenty of evidence of that so he would not take offense to what I’m saying now but put the that’s kind of that was a joke of this coming full circle but another aspect is just that if I take making permaculture sexy as if prime directive and I look at okay you know I can only be my sexual Capital also we talked about the different forms of capital that’s not on the list and sexuality as a as a vector as a as a sector these are permaculture jargon for understanding flows of energy sexuality Flows In and Out of a site and such a deep fundamental way but it gets neglected overlooking design and not a lot of people are designing for let’s say different relationship structures or or designing for maybe the tagari farm I believe it’s in porch Spain or Portugal like they’re actually doing permaculture with with the sexuality a sexually intelligent design aspect and so it’s just really an itch that far behind the curve as far as everything else in permaculture so it didn’t make sense for me to take up that cause and to start talking about sexuality permaculture designing sites and systems that account for these flows of energy and so where where I’m knowing that there are limitations to my sexual Capital potential the knowing that when I discovered and getting back into the adult industry at cycle wait a minute these models and these porn actresses they actually charge very little money to do all kinds of different shoots like they are used to standing in front of holding cigarettes and booze and standing in front of sports cars and literally you know if you’re a model who were who is like a top-ranking model on modelmayhem.com or you’re the which is the most famous fanciest pornstar in the world your your day rate and your half-day rate in your hour rate it’s actually not that much for anybody who who wanted to like me make permaculture sexy to start to hire these people and start to actually put them in the landscape put them into permaculture designs and have them start to teach and have them start to demonstrate and let them become the teachers of permaculture that would fulfill that directive to make permaculture sexy so fast forward from that planting the seed of that directive to me doing my best to integrate permaculture with my work and my offerings but knowing the limitation I have maybe even a greater leap of faith and and risk and and risque if you will to be like okay well you don’t want to listen to Jeff lot and talk about permaculture you don’t want to listen to Paul Wheaton talk about permaculture you don’t listen to Jack spearco talk about permaculture how about the Playboy that are the play girl of the month you know I mean talk about permaculture then we’re cooking with grease and not is my you know hack that’s my function and and it’s starting to move and now I will be certifying some of these models and pornstars excetera excetera giving them the course that I had through you and modifying adapting it to their lifestyle and their schedule and beer you know availability and their interests and pretty soon I would dare say it’s going to cost very little money to have huge cultural leverage with their millions of followers and their millions of likes and just all of that capital of that Social Capital social media Capital merging that with the sexual capital and putting it into a holistic permaculture design where there’s a potential for the mean the games and the contest and like when I see what these models and and pornstars do on their social media to like riled up in and get their fans to participate in some contest to see them wearing some new outfit or whatever the fuck it is like you know when you put it very well in this conversation about the way that you’re mine shifts where you see opportunity for ecological from for helping life be conducive to more life you see those opportunities everywhere and it’s like there’s a limit to what people like you and me who aren’t multi-million follower Instagram models or whatever there’s a limit to how much we can transmit that but if they start to incentivize their fan base and they say yeah you want to have a date with me well you got to plant a tree to do that and if you plant a tree and you can prove it with the a video of you doing it then maybe you get you entered the raffle to have a nice date was Peter sup expect they do the most ridiculous shit and people are like men they’re abused frustrated sexual needs are being just totally manipulated by the door the whole capitalist wasteful system and if only it could be more elegantly finessed so that there was an alignment of ecological values and sexual gratification sexual fulfillment and the titillation of tits and ass you know we could really be where Jeff on says we used to be which is the most beneficial element in the system that humans can be that and I think it just takes putting that fucking carry it in front of you know the right energy and getting getting that frustrated Sexual Energy to actually serve serve Gaia and who better than Ben Ben some of these models which I determine undiscovered are actually quite quite an expensive to hire and I’m asking to do things far less intrusive and far less the grading than what they’re getting acid Dubai every other person who’s Contracting with them so that’s that’s my bite bite the next chunk of a thesis that I have found out there on the design charrette table setup for YouTube channel there you have it man that’s that’s the monster that you created in and I think Bill would be fucking having a shity than Grande right now if you could know about it he would absolutely absolutely love it I am sure that well good job then I love where you were at life and Imagination that has taken you and I look forward to what you able to produce and where they do in the future I thank you for that I think just the ad just as simply put if you think we both know anybody who you got to meet him personally but anybody who is Coosa been able to stand and stomach more than five minutes of his form of humor you know you would get it yeah he would think that this was a great hack and I do it to you know in that Spirit of honoring the lineages of teachers and the you know it’s not going to be everybody’s cup of tea but you know I wanted to have that that that thought process kind of vetted you know and have you sound soundboard on that and that’s pretty much my yeah that’s it’s a huge gift from you to me to to allow me to elaborate to that degree and to bear with me on that and now two were not me we’re not going to we’re not promoting anything particularly of yours we’re not funneling people to your websites or to your your Works per se but while you have a supper 290 which anytime you’re welcome back of course and we’ll probably check in on things in the future but this kind of is like we’re like time-stamping the blockchain Innocence by having this conversation we’re we’re establishing the the the spirit of resistance in this bizarre and unique format of of you and me talking about this stuff right now and so like with this opportunity that you have to speak from your heart and soul and everything you’ve learned in all the places you’ve arrived at I would love for you to just take over on however much time you’re comfortable with and like advise me on what you’ve learned and where you’re at and you know we talked about maybe busting some myths or at least talking putting some critique on on a permaculture movement if if you like but I just want to say my I rest my case for sexual pervert culture and fucking punk stacking permaculture and now you have what is snow humble audience to speak to but it will be growing over time and when we when we publish this episode there will be you know hopefully copies of it preserves you know for time immemorial and it will be something that people can look back on so it’s it it may age with Grace and it may it may continue to bear fruit so so feel free with that said to you know bestow whatever wisdom you’d like and doesn’t have to have any new no correlation to what I said that was just me putting in my my little timestamp yeah I I’m not sure that I would have so much more to say about the my recent learning so I would maybe just invite people to take those moments to appreciate life and dive into some methadone and and enjoy it and and dig on some of the philosophy and maybe even get into the weeds and read up on some FH King farmers of forty centuries and just think about where we’re at now and where we cooking in 10,000 years as Humanity probably not doing as bad as you think we’re doing I would say we’re probably doing a hell of a lot better than your mind thinks we’re doing and those are the kind of thoughts that I guess I’m working with at the moment so yeah if you if you don’t mind I’ll try to teach him we’re out of there we talked about futurism before and talked about you know that the long now and Kurzweil and that reconciling of amor primitivist perspective with the Amor techno Optimist perspective so you know now that you kind of yeah, you kind of shared a couple of resources do you want to just like if you were to put together your own party pack let’s say of the things that Arthur’s resource is not to say that we’re going to do that or you know take that on but but I would be curious to know if you would want to elaborate on just lists of influences that you had you know people and anything that you would consider to be a valuable resource like that go ahead and add some more to that list and then I think we’ll call the show if we’re if we’re happy with that where I would throw some ideas is Imagine The Long now I would say Stewart brand book and any kokrak minted whole earth discipline is a great place to start and that’s that’s got a lot of ecological heresy that he presents if he will end the end that can change your mind on a few thing and if you’re looking to change your minds on you know being super down about the world’s going to hell in a handbasket and and you’ve been deeply involved in send Derek Jensen work or something like that I would definitely say grab a list of books by Steven Pinker the better angels of our nature Matt Ridley the rational Optimist Peter diamandis abundance and I I guess like you said Ray Kurzweil The Singularity is near and think about radical demonetizing EFM realizing technology can help perpetuate ecological regeneration and human flourishing because not opposed you know that the system to develop technology is certainly not purposefully and willingly opposed to regenerating the system in fact I think trying to Mary conservation with technological Advance is providing a very bright halfway towards the future and with that in mind never disregard the sacred and always take a moment to reflect back ten thousand or more years rely on wisdom to guide you I guess that’s about that’s about all I have on those ramble that’s beautiful man I just reminds me of the one thing one thing I’ll close with your which is believed this was in that Mollison Lawton PC where he says basically what you do in your permaculture design should have worked where you are a thousand years ago and it should work where you are a thousand years from now and that is like the that’s another thing to meditate on you know yes absolutely and it goes with that it’s like can you be high-tech as you want and be compliant with nature the same time you know yeah right on Manuel crazy insane bulletin things that you like super counterintuitive in and could totally like this this is an awesome one so I would assume eco-warriors would think that petroleum products are all super negative there are some really interesting very underground moles and project in the Middle East where he actually use petroleum product to erosion and reverse the desertification and I think that if it’s worth not not condemning every tool just because of where it came from their options to use just about every tool for potential regenerative benefit. Will pay huge dividends in the 1000 to 10000 your time scale is very tantric in a sense that Township pushes you to towards the taboo and the transgressions that help you realize non-duality and integration and break your phobias and and understand you know every tool in the toolbox with with the ethics of right action ultimately it with the bigger picture in mind so that’s another another guy want anything else before we wrap I think that’s good cool man all right well that. Comes full circle we I think we crushed it we’re talking about Punk punks hacking critical and we did a massive thank you so much this is been a huge honor and you know the respect that any martial artist would have for their Sensei or any Yogi would have for the guru I have that for you and I absolutely wish you the best and I live to make you proud and hopefully you know if tall is the the business logic pants out well then there will be yields yields upon year olds to to share and to feed back into more fun and more teaching and just confusing being conducive to more life men awesome awesome all right that we have a great evening and we’ll be in touch please go to www.crunch.com can cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple up here by Tycho logical employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 18275 1593 or emo band at Tantra Punk. 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Hacking Group Romance as a Porn Director not a Cult Leader TPP200

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In this episode I’m joined by a mystery guest for a wild comedic adventure into the repressed caverns of my erotic mind. She holds enthusiastic and giggly sacred space for me to get on a roll lamenting about the current state of monogapathic culture. She helps me get through a lot of catharsis in exploring my life history of drama and madness surrounding opening up to more inclusive group sexual and romantic encounters. With her gracious support, I’m able to take liberties in the manner in which I share some of my most passionate and taboo-breaking fantasies. With care and consideration for ethics and holism, I attempt to induce a few laughs as I graphically depict my experimental designs for hacking group romance.

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Com and our journey together will begin pillow their beloveds welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 200 I just got back from an East Coast tour with the punk rock metal band and I’m thrilled to say we had a great time and did very well and I made it back in one piece and this is an exciting episode 200 Extravaganza where are some of my backlog recording this and this was one of the one of my favorite ones that I had to choose from for the episode 200 and I think you will really Joy it is definitely something different it is it is a my first summer unintentional extended comedy monologue with a a wingwoman of sorts and she’s holding space for me to bring forth into a level of of hilarity that I don’t normally I don’t know don’t normally summon and don’t really feel as is often appropriate but once you get on a roll when you start to really stimulate somebody’s Funny Bone verbally then it’s it’s hard not to to just run with his so it may be offencive it may be a little over-the-top and in that what we’ve come to appreciate about that classic stand up comedian form is that you’re able to get away with exposing truths in a very heated very sometimes aggravated state of mind and people cathartically get off on someone else saying what speaking out there are deeper taboo thoughts so if this is the first episode you’ve heard of mine it is definitely uncharacteristic of most of the rest way I tend to joke here and there but really really typically try to be pretty reserved and really focus on a I’m more of a dialogue with a guess this in this case it’s it’s almost completely One Direction all but her being there is absolutely essential in order to get that Dynamic flowing and it certainly in the sense of Comedy it really helps I don’t know how people can just write write comedy in their own inner sanctuary and not have that that reverberation in that that feedback and and dynamic but anyway this is a lot of fun and what we’re talking about what I’m talking about. Manly and she’s helping hold the space for me to really mansplain in an unethical way really is talking about the the bloopers and Antics and Folly and what I’ve learned from attempts to hack this notion of group romance and really learn from a lot of mistakes and really create sort of personal interpersonal living breathing think-tank research experiment out of how to best overcome the limitations that we have in most modern patriarchal monotheistic minago Pathak cultures where our options are very limited and our experience and Expo are two other modes of loving and healing and relating romantically they’re completely systematically cauterized by these Disneyland archetypes of monogamy and whatnot so I get into the higher level kind of macro cultural analysis and critiques and then we get into a lot of really fun really absurd ridiculous and playful visual kind of comedic audioporn take to get through some of the designer ideas of how to how to be hacking group romance and I’m really this is it from my perspective a a male centered male-oriented you could call it phallocentric you could say I’m being a chauvinist here but really I think it’s about making sexual gratification in the feeling of love and connection amongst people be as egalitarian as possible and really work with what you have within your your orientation your identity your group of friends and just explore those boundaries and really gamify group romance and hopefully this really stands is a introductory Treatise on why it’s important to explore these things and what the the payoffs are so hope you enjoy it this is definitely for me one of my top favorite episodes of all time because of where we where we get to in the end of Vibes of it you know I hope that it leaves you rolling on the floor and also curious and also emboldened to take more adventurous steps in the future of your love life all right thank you very much if you’ve been with me along waist episode 200 thank you for for being with me and enjoy this historic episode thank U Namaste and they would not be comfortable with you hacking the storylines of of compulsory monogamy and telling stories very festive stories about what it’s like to like not be in patriarchy and like it she does she know yeah that’s what good for sale teacher reflect a picture or no one’s happy everybody’s miserable and just whining about it new relationships breaking out and being her and then just repeating the cyclist over and over is very defeatist like cry about level of times but at least you’re feeling something at least you’re not a total sociopath narcissist like don’t even care spending to steal it self-inflicted stuff too cuz you just like wanting holding on to like the painful stuff I guess we’re like people that aren’t making like the best for you but it’s sad and it’s like Basin and being married and being screwed if you lose that Financial Lifeline life support so there we have listed this is the in permaculture design Geoff Lawton and it likes to use this teaching to a witches that when it comes to like agriculture what you’re talking about gardening earlier today but it’s like this so if you only plant one crop in a field that’s a lot like fishing with a single line where they know that if that crop fails or that line breaks your your your Sol and so the smart Fisher person would say I let me fish with a net so that if one or even several of those lines break with internet I still have a functioning device here so that’s what you could systems do and that’s why polyculture in gardening and Horticulture polyculture means multiple different phrase things as opposed to monoculture so you can make this analogy very happy to monogamy and monoculture and still what’s resilient in an ecosystem diversity right the more diverse ecosystem the more resilient it is the more flexible adapter is in more abundant and flourishing it is so monoculture monogamy monotony it’s and then that’s why people are living in this wounded heart broken real disaster of a reality and it’s just profit people that make the Laurie handlers cuz it seems like I’m she said in her podcast if this was a easy the country cafe or sex and happiness she said to podcast over the years she makes an excellent point that she’s over his doesn’t not interested in the heartache that sells and wants to crack break your heart open to love everyone pretty much and to have new experiences and to be open to new experiences and so have a very regenerative heart and I would like the concept of being a heart Gardner so like I’m trying to I have not just one heart that I love her that I tend I have a garden that I attend of many hearts and some of them need more attention at times some of them you know every more self-sufficient some of them could tell me to get lasted for cough and don’t even want want me like even looking at them and everything in between so then you know being a heart Gardner and trying to keep them all alive and and not neglect them and be responsible for like letting them Blossom letting them rot on the vine either you know anyway so there’s so much to learn and so much to sing about so sincere singer I’m a singer we’re going to think about this stuff. We also actually I need to have experience to know where the fuck were talking about so that’s where we begin with what where does the authentic Journey actually begin and that’s where we and I just watched Breakfast Club where they were it’s like this painstaking process of socially engineering the truth out of what how and what circumstances virginity was happening or not happening so we all have virginity is two different things even if we popped her cherry City this week so so we’re at the precipice of The Virginity of your experimental lesbianism is it a few dedicated to your not identified as a woman now what do you mean what I mean is that my I’m very interested in the notion of you having sex with a woman if you if you want to sit at one point I was very blunt and I asked you and I risked I risked being considered a British attend to try to do that so it’s basically asking if I’m if you’ve ever had if you would have ever had sex with a woman and if not would you like to and you said you would like to but you like to what you say roll around with me first right I think that’s yeah so that could be arranged so basically you know that’s compromised that’s that’s how you have probably that’s the beginning of it is like what do you need what a minor needs how can we meet in the middle somewhere and so well this is what is so interesting to me and what I am going to share is like my design concept that I put a lot of effort into trying to figure out which is this is that okay if we really break the stuff down what we don’t have what we have a lot of experience of as children is being gently yet with with I would say lowercase authoritarianism weird we are compelled by adults to share toys and we learn against whatever maybe that jealous or envious nature or selfish nature we learn to to actually eventually Delight in the gift of sharing something with others so that we actually realize that there’s this abundance of my face you know it’s not like hopefully it’s not like you don’t eat the toy in the toy is something that doesn’t get destroyed after one use of the toy I’m so that you can hand it on and and let other people experience so what somewhere along the path of puberty we get program to lose that fundamental sociability and Collective position of like the toys that we would be sharing on the playground and once we develop and grow and have her own public Parts in appropriate age appropriate settings to explore Inn Express in which we all know is lacking in this culture and that’s why we have abusive all kinds cuz we don’t have rice passage and we don’t know when we are to do wet when howl with himself in a healthy way or holistic way I should say so we’re we are fumbling in the dark trying to figure this stuff out and somewhere we get cursed with these imprints of monogamy that is compulsory compulsive Naga me bound up in Notions of being a prince and a princess and all of these socioeconomic status oriented ways of like something being mine a person me owning that person this status symbol so there’s I’m not saying anything for you know this groundbreaking to indict these memes and this culture architecture and you know they have spoken to like many people feminists just look at feminist anthropology in the critique of domestication in the in the critique of civilization and patrilineal descent and the the the the way that wealth and land and power is handed down from a meal bloodline Emil name Inlet that’s why you control you would need to control the female sexuality and reproductive freedom in order to guarantee that your son gets your land in and not someone else’s so that’s that’s the patriarchy connection and we want to what super tall that perverted and silver and actually compost the patriarchy is she so I don’t think there’s a there’s no there’s nothing more subversive then then then opening up relationships because once you start buying less because old do do we need to each have our own garage filled with tools from big box stores or can we all share one fucking tool set amongst us all lovers sharing each other’s bodies it’s not rocket science and it’s not rocket science way they have made it so difficult to be relating sexually openly with computers with a peer group and neighborhood of adults because they want us all to be in our little boxes buying one of every that have everything and not sharing anything and therefore it cuts into their bottom line so we are doing our best to compost the patriarchy to be subversive and actually have a lot of fun doing it it’s not a dip revation and sacrifice to have more fun sexually with more people it is a little bit more requisite of time for emotional care and tenderness for sure it’s complicated and it is and is medically important to be but if it’s as if you can play any video game that you play any board game you can gamify Sexual Health in a group you can end in the end not to do bring it to the light and be like okay well we match here like literally HSV expressing in one part of the body can match to that and another person other parts of body and you can pretty much pretty much know you’re safe at that point there’s there’s ways to gamify these things so that you know curses can be blessings in yet make it very used that’s who we need to design the user-friendly interface for people to connect and 4 shame and not even just the end of course the STI status stuff but also people who just have body issues about so we can be mixing and matching his stuff and yeah. There’s an app for it kind of a thing you know in this world so so we’re getting there and you know you pull the card and you know people who so it will and that’s why that’s the reason to do yoga so that you can hold these sexual positions forever because he like baby words said when a man basically two pair of fruit to fear fear for his baby Ward and I’m mixing a couple of I’m adding a couple together of her if you’re beautiful phrases but basically if I were Davey word I would probably say something like if I if I was balls do you know when your balls deep in me I want it to last forever I want your penis in my vagina forever and I can’t Rainman how to make that possible and actually there was a good scene in Jerry Maguire where she asked for him to she’s don’t ever stop fucking me in a kind of like kills the mood when he says I think I’ll have to stop at some point and then they fucking break up with a douche no sorry to tell you I love you tons hear me okay forget about it Interview with the Vampire okay stop me somebody for the cold water on me right now all right yeah it was Saved by the Bell you is just batteries going to last all night long you’re you’re you’re getting okay so it’s yours work as graphic this is where he’s going to get more perverted this is building it up so building and Outdoors like what is it why does this matter that’s why why am I trying to have so much fun packing monogamy and the shame and the pain and the jealousy and the limitation it’s just it’s false it’s completely insane and in deranged and and I will not tolerate it for one more second my life and in that spirit I say I’ve done the boyfriend-girlfriend thing I’ve done in monogamy thing I’ve done a jealousy thing and then a hard brake thing so if somebody enters my life and is attracted to me I go out how this is interesting erotic energy flowing in my direction how can I not manipulated not abused if not not not heard it or harm it but actually let it flow through my little garden design of more pleasure and then also this is the thing where I feel like I’ve made an important hack an important this is because this is been going back to how we learn to share so this is as an adult with adult content adult appropriate settings of course but really bring it down and that’s why I am a huge fan of psychedelic sexuality because it inhibits the neurotic aspects of the ego and if you’re going to trust in space and you have referees and you have good guidance and going on in people are observing and being Sheriff’s that to the boundaries when the people are you know any in there Altered States but would you with the beauty of it is that you get to explore again and you get to explore bodies and he could do store your own body and it’s not a story about who’s owns this and who’s rights to this and fuck where’s all the paperwork and did I swear to it tonight so that’s and it doesn’t have to be an orgy of people fucking very sloppily very carelessly when you get into the tantric practices of massage wherever it’s about it’s really the best things really happen with the most intentional experts killed manual and leading up to of course different forms of penetration with genitals but it’s underrated how much how much pleasure and how deep deep healing we can be with their hands with each other in and really there’s no excuse not to be doing that cuz you’re not going to make babies and they just called outercourse or mutual masturbation went on so that’s where rather than rushing from first base to second base and all of that hyper rush to the Finish Line stuff fit culture this culture is trained to do you actually can start out saying okay it could literally be a fun and fulfilling and safe Friday night for a group of friends 2 take each other to take their clothes off and use their hands to induce different types of orgasms in each other consensually and into explorer that and so that’s where I say the games of politics becomes like whose are you fucking that is long as you if you if you keep that off the table a little just long enough and this is what so at what I have there is like a Zone that is safer emotionally and medically to play in in groups to actually start to rewire and meltdown those belief systems so that you have a clean slate in in your capable of exploring slowly and building on the new Pannu template that you design and we’re very plastic a blank brain can be reformatted we can 3 format is hard drive as many times we want there’s no limit to it and we were it’s absurd to think they were stuck in a 2000 year old paradigm I’d rather be in a 200,000 Euro Paradigm cuz that’s where the real phone was happening anyway but we’re going to get to the Primal Anarchy of lovemaking groups in just a minute now so break here’s how we break from breakthroughs goes invisible prison cells in our minds about monogamy and so I figured it out like how I would like to conduct a ceremony words like okay this is my penis here and there’s people that want to play with it and put it in different parts of their bodies and hopefully have a good time with it and if it really like Gibson gets them there and brings them there and then delivers the goods then they will become deeply deeply addicted to that experience and Anna on a level that is that is beyond any extreme passion of any terrorist has any ideology the amount of passion that and I would say a woman from in my experience the level of chemical spiritual just that’s what we should be living for men who love who love women is like for them to be taken so far out and so far in that they will want to kill other people who take threatened to take that experience away from them I every other women that you’ve ever known that you might never know so that’s where we have this conundrum which is like it is so good like I want you to be obsessed with me but I do not want you to be obsessed with me you know cuz that’s right cuz I’m going to kill myself if you’re not obsessed with me but I’m going to run away from you and run into the street if you’re obsessive me so either way I die do you know yeah and I had to run in the street to avoid women who are obsessed with me and it’s no joke cuz otherwise I would have thought they didn’t love me if they weren’t a homicidal maniac it’s right so there’s a way to disperse that energy and it’s like oh wait a minute he’s fucking me but I’m making out with a woman and looking into her eyes and who do I lose what it oh my God is I don’t know who is fucking me right now but it feels great and I agreed to it like I signed off that anyone can fuck me tonight with this and that and this so like I don’t know who to write the check to you know what I mean like anymore it’s just too much just don’t stop so I’ve been there and I’m never going back to the the the hell rounds it is about diffusing that pleasurable experience across so many different Souls that it’s impossible to Tribute it to one person and really I believe that this is not an astoundingly long wide penis that I have that I think is perfectly shaped to do what it was designed to do and I’m happy with it whatever yeah I’ve gotten good reviews so far in life women who wanted to kill other women because they were so possessive of this thing that it’s just like always wants to do is just be warm and wet and love them that is so I have a beloved partner and you know I would kiss your boobs goodbye and tell him to be good every day knowing if she was like why I never did anything bad to anybody ever and I realized that was the pure essence of innocence is Brett’s cuz like you can never say that they ever do anything bad to never manipulated anybody they never play games with anybody they just give and give and give you know so anyway that’s another story if we could only all aspire to be as innocent as a breast but never do anything to hurt anybody ever never had to be told to be nice just what is nice you know x-ray sexual Zen state that people would have to meditate for years if they didn’t eat mushrooms to figure that out like become a breast and live in the consciousness of breast in this and just experienced pleasure and give pleasure and don’t fucking overthink it you know it as long as everybody is of legal age and sound mind and knows what they’re signing up for essentially we can work out the details but I’ve been in those moments where it’s like yes what’s making this woman lose her mind and ecstasy is 80% the emotional connection with other women that she is sharing and then I am there to be basically a prop to the beautiful. Theater of feminine understanding and that is when I understood For the First Time The futility of women trying to squeeze blood from a stone to make bullheaded dumb men who would rather be playing video games or breaking shit or glowing sit up or doing something fucking mindless and heartless for fun and just acting them and making them be a woman when they’re not a woman because they can’t explore sexual intimacy with other women because they’re afraid of the taboo of lesbianism and because it would be against the rules and whatnot so when melted down and was in a sensor Moniz were psychedelic ceremonies wear them all of these stories were melted away and it was just women in fucking ecstasy the agony and ecstasy and using my cock is a prop but also as an energetic current in a source of love and that my refinement was allow me to be in that space and I realize that it’s like it is so cumbersome to be responsible for a woman’s orgasm in a love making session why would I want all of that burden on myself it’s like I have to at my age I have to think about not coming too fast beat not losing my erection and in trying to make a sincere emotional sincere present connection with the person who I am kissing is with that is enough for me to have to do it now I’m responsible for her squirting and I like coming in the same say when I saw the leveraging of all these other women and how freely flowing the orgasms come when the openness in the connectedness is there with other women so so like I said I’m not taking a step back and now if anybody wants to come at me they’re going to have to go through that that ate a form of of grade school of learning in or black ass like that you’re going to come at me do you want to fuck me you need a black belt in loving me to get in and if you go into any Karate Dojo they’re not even said hey I want to do what you do can you hand me your black belt right now please here I’ll give you a beer can I buy you a beer and then you give me a black belt no stupid you’re so stupid Bibb so what was the quote from the movie UHF which is very a so you definitely watch UHF to understand where my sense of humor comes from but yes I’ll good good so so we’re solving this problem and creating these designer experiences and so what I realized is that the impulse for a woman to have this one-dimensional relationship with a man’s cock so that she wants to possess it so as you’re a very own the way for me to logically very very simple-minded lycee what is the how do you prevent that is to say well you will learn to get to know my cock at exactly the same time as another person and you will only have a 50/50 relationship with whatever you do you say like you would with your best friend and I had her saying in people may not like to hear me say is cuz it sounds good feed it to your best friend first feed it to your best friend first and I didn’t even think about the secondary effect of that which for me that was just that was just like I’m going to know that you’re not going to lose your mind with jealousy when you can just say here actually you can I’ll let you go first so that would be the the the tantric taboo test of transgression against yourself like that Siri you’re going to lose your mind will feel into that and start simple we’re going to dance together and you’re going to watch just that and is that make your blood boil what happens after your blood simmers down do you start to like so now it’s like whatever that point is where that demon comes out of jealousy you were going to rub the shit out of your clit until it goes and tell you what you’ve you become a demon Whisperer with your clit and me and everybody just wants to create more and add more locks to the fire and you transmute that negative emotion into a positive motion and then in the probably will be called conversion the opposite we don’t have a word for it we do not have a word except for that one which no one knows it set designer neologism but we don’t have the band singing about how good it feels to watch their wife get fucked by Adam Ant And so yeah here we come back full circle so we will be so we’re going to we’re going to have these experiences we’re going to sing about it and and so this is the this is the what the the the climax of this conversation will be in my opinion is is when I talked about how the it’s not just a theoretical Gaiden guiding principle to say oh yeah we’ll will like yeah okay you flip a coin and I have sex first with the person who wins that round and then I stopped having sex with you and hopefully it didn’t lose my wind in 5 minutes cuz I was so fucking turn on by the sexy after they all I got another $5 and it’s over for me for like they’re already like forgot every system anyway cuz they’re tearing each other inside out and everything and I’m just watching and trying to like make it come to live again and finally it will eventually but you should know I’m getting That’s The Hampsterdance the Tantra hence the sexual Jedi Knight training so that you can breathe breathe through and in have the orgasms without losing the love don’t be a 5 lb jump so hit the two feminists so I think I’m going to say okay if she’s dying to give me a blowjob then like we time it for like okay like we’re going to play your favorite song and it’s going to be about the same equal thanks to to her favorite song and you going to eat each other’s favorite songs and I’m like hold each other’s heads and massage each other and just be like holding each other from behind and Miss Priss massaging each other that they take turns but there’s still a potential in that for for jealousy to arise in forever and for it to be I mean I just thought of a way to actually literally short-circuit everything in a really beautiful elegant circuit and so here is the design and I will try to verbally explain unless they can so I love the idea of two women’s hands clasping together around my cock and massaging it gently up and down as they face each other and our eye gazing intermittently so the visual so far is is that the dear beloved goddesses or I are facing each other so actually agency kneeling I’m I am laying on my back and they both are kneeling with their literally as clothes into my armpit is possible so that I can reach Below in between their legs and butt so I can have a hand on each clit and vulva fingers is a good middle finger on the clit and to end so if I’m cuffing the vulva and able to use my longest middle finger to be stroking the each clit simultaneously in patterns you know singer sew and I’m basically playing streams is like playing guitar and make a solo I’m playing shift I have this is because the end of vocalizations or what I’m tuning for it you know so so it isn’t this beautiful instrument of a playing these two young hearts that are kissing each other and like I gazy and exactly is so I’m making sure that they’re not feeling left out in that apartment while I’m being stimulated and everybody is being stimulated sexually and everyone is feeling a part of a closed circuit that is meeting everyone’s needs and in and there’s no favoritism there’s no hierarchy the really so thin and if anything I am as the man in my back and that is what time trick Kali worshipping actual full fully pornographic and I hesitate to use that word was fully glorious erotic depictions of the circuitry of how this stuff works so if it’s if you’re not approve any 3 I mean if you’re not so sexually stunted then you would just understand that these icons are just road maps to the spiritual terrain of understanding the energetics of Shiva Shakti god goddess energy so we’re designing with that and we’re creating a maximum hydraulic energy flows in in in a way that is very egalitarian actually inhibits the growth of the ego and that sense of so-and-so I’ve experienced this in not that exact formation but that’s why I aspire to be a porn director so that I can I can work with people who are very comfortable taking Direction and are not going to lose their minds and so I actually had this conversation today they’re what makes me not a cult leader and what prevents me from ever becoming a cult leader is this one fundamental thing right but I have to study cold it is to know how not to be a quote later cuz otherwise I would just be cranking out so much Kool-Aid day Kool-Aid would have to invent a time to punch flavor you know I got to be sponsored by Kool-Aid the Kool-Aid man oh yeah it would have it I make my own Kool-Aid Man Township anyway after dark okay I wanted how they’ve not sued like I have all of the libelous memes and they feel bad for the Kool-Aid guy I didn’t fucking poisonous people man I don’t mean to be making fun of them and I really got to get serious about not making a joke out of the people who died in the massacre Crazy Eights it’s it’s it’s public domain now to make a joke to either the expression people say don’t drink the Kool-Aid it’s because people at Jonestown were by a charismatic cult leader who was it was an extremely right with it skips a generation maybe but that’s how memes get formed yes so I mean that’s how they sort of deprecated the roots and you say things that we don’t know how does the reason we’re numb it so they don’t drink the Kool-Aid means don’t consent to a groupthink. Virus that makes mass suicide be acceptable and so they poisoned the Kool-Aid punch and that’s how everyone can scented make give it to their kids and everyone is like this is fine and some people try to protest and they were silenced and some people try to run away and it was a nightmare and it was absolutely what I would I must not allow myself to become as a priest that uses sexual mind manipulation and coercive tactics to trade love and affection attention and orgasm for 4 unquestioning devotion into the point of suicide so that that’s the extreme case that that we that is a litmus test for if you were going down that slippery slope but I actually tend to want to study the mental illness of sociopath sociopathy narcissism and I would like to consider myself a benign I’m the benign narcissist I know that that is a character flaw that I am not how we going to like defeat by doing the past limitations as many times that night and I’m going to roll with it and I’m going to say yeah I will be like Howard Stern and I will be I’m going to if I’m going to be this personality I’m going to make a bonsai tree out of my own ego if I can and have other people help in the process but but things going going back to the to the cult thing and what me what gives me the authority to design this orgasmic Orchestra what why and how do you not just become a colder than soy everyone you meet is basically in that on that game board now how am I going to manipulate you to be in this in this position that I would like you to be in to fulfill my fantasy of engineering all this town truck stuff and and if I’m if I’m this is well that’s spit out the Kool-Aid don’t swallow I think what we’ll get to that for sure that’s going to be a we’re going to get to that but can’t forget that we’ll save that for the for the most triumphant moment the climax is when we’re going to use that it’s so precious now after it’s been built up so ever since a joke that’s going about 2 it’s going to explain come on your face it’s going to come on yesterday and you’re going to beg for it and so hits is it is I’ve had people beg me to come in the third eye and it was hard to resist but this is going to be almost as good as that sharing you this one liner inside joke and just a minute but to wrap up this sort of dark out thing that we were doing with the coal thing is that it how do you know how do I hedge against being the creepiest man every like people think that Barney the purple dinosaur because he and forgive me if I’m butchering the facts here but as far as I know he’s doing what I considered to be taboos for me which is charging women money to have sexual penetrative intercourse with them above all without protection and making that into a to me that’s not a scalable business model and you can ask your doctor wife but Barney I mean I get it and I get that that’s the love thing being cultivated generated so I think I don’t know whether I consider that good pressure bad press for modern Neo Tantra or what not but I’d love to have them on the podcast I’m sure it’s going to happen and I can’t say that I was a fan of the art form of Barney the purple dinosaur but but but I would love to get to the full story and also talked about the ethics and this medical the medical duty of care that comes with sexual and pinch of intercourse with anybody so anyway that’s the sad but who were talking about okay what if you were intrigued and maybe turned on by me talking about these erotic circuit boards then you also have to be somewhat red-flagged and starting to cringe and go where how old is this get arranged in what are the incentives and how do you how do you manage the Eagles and how do you who’s in charge it’s like you can’t it’s a scary thing but you wouldn’t work but that’s why when I went when I say what I realized for me the aha moment in my sexual career was that if I want to have out-of-the-box sex I have to pay lots of money for it from professionals who have trained her nervous system to do theater performance of sexuality as escorts or as Dom’s or as porn performers because they’re good sports they’re not spoil Sports about any of the stuff for the most part if they’re treated well and respected and then contracts are here too and they know what they’re getting into and hopefully they’ve matured and hopefully their brain has developed to its full capacity IE the age that it takes to actually I don’t say that to you exactly so you better know there’s a dimension of Ethics when it comes to harvesting teenagers for your for whatever Annette and I have had some of the best sex in my life as a 30 year old being fucked up fucked senseless by teenager in a row in a monogamous relationship and I will I will tell you that it’s it some it was worth the daddy issues that I had to deal with it was worth reparenting her and it was worth every bit of emotional kind of awkwardness that there wasn’t some of the an Amex because she was such a good full spirited Prime late night it was funny cuz I was like I want to settle you down and basically like I could teach your making a kid with ADHD sit in class is like no she wants to fuck wildly she wants you to perform more than you possibly ever could even at 30 and and she and she is not she doesn’t need these esoteric practices too heavy multi-orgasmic she’s fucking coming or brains out like so hard and I and I couldn’t sit her down the aisle still enough to do any of the practices that I thought were going to be so enlightening and went in the great thing is is it a fuck it like it is certain point you just say no guru there’s a song about it’s like no guru no no scripture No play just in the Dow of the thing so anyway so that’s a side note to say there is a sacred place for adult for fully mature brain develop adults to be having sex with teenagers and and I know that it can be done because I’ve done it but it also takes you can’t just treat them like a commodity please you got to you got to think about pedagogy Nikki learned from the person that you’re teaching teaches you things to like a circle so then so we’re talking about these ethics and where I wanted to just close that point about how I do my best to not be a cult leader I thought I figured it out pretty simply and correct me if I’m wrong but basically it’s it’s I dare you to to indict me for the the criminal and civil liability of misconduct for for for structuring a certain way so this is how I this is this is very simple as this is like this I said that this is a different the difference from a cult leader is that I’m a porn director I pay women to be directed and then I pay whoever I want to I will I will I will choose performers who I resonate with for whatever we would like to do together to make beautiful art and and I will compensate them and pay them to take time out of their lives to be a part of my design and to be directed by me they’re not paying me for healing for enlightenment for direction for guidance and I’m directing them and Meghan gratifying myself and taking their money in convincing mind fucking them and taking more of their money and more than money until they don’t talk to their friends because of and that’s how Colts are basically extractive from their students the colors are extracting from their devotees the difference is how many colors do you know that actually give their devotees money I will pay you oh now I’m making corned a porn director and I am more karmically correct than the fucking Guru who is fucking having people kiss his feet and take your money so who would have thought that the corn directors were the most enlightening Yogi’s to ever attempt to be divine and I have my favorites and I’m a fan of some of them I want I want to see the names but right now but that cuz I wouldn’t want to leave any out you know what I mean bless you all for paying people to direct them into your Twisted fucking fantasies and giving them that dignity like hats of their not wondering about it cuz there’s that was having a conversation today it’s like a buyer’s remorse if I say to you I’m just saying if you remember when you had to if you were old enough to know that there was a day when when when your allowance equals one CD for $15 so humorous if you never had experience this is important I think this is important teaching is important teachable moment is that is that and I don’t want to be today. Take care no man’s planning anything in them to have fun here but this is like this is this is late so here’s the funny thing though you think about I remember what it was like when I had to convince myself that amusing that a CD that fucking sucked was actually good because I paid money for it and I would not let myself suffer the indignity of having made a mistake so I was in a state of denial and delusion so so so feeling this isn’t meditation okay everybody think of something that you paid money for that you discovered was in the zoo is suboptimal and you used mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you actually liked it even though you knew deeply that you didn’t like it but it was called buyer’s remorse it was called the sunk cost fallacy of sunk cost fallacy is that because you invested something into this you have to continue beyond the point of no return because you can’t live with yourself other ways so that is this Twisted perverse placebo effect that happens when it’s like I went to the sex guru to get healed and he said for 9999 I would get here and but I but I could also upsell to the bonus extra double healing deluxe super Cosmic Crystal trademark excetera right thing and try before you buy money back guarantee accessories that you’re all of his legal he’s in fine print all the stuff but there is but that’s where it is we’re expecting to have some result that you paid money for and you will question whether or not okay did I was a hole in my heel did I pay enough money to pay more and some money and it is it distorts things and you did it it did contaminated in a way for that so I’m skeptical that I can be done right in that sense and that’s just me so what I say let’s work in the garden together my time equals your time and now we’re planting trees equals an hour of Yoni massage your prostate massage and therefore it’s a flat equal everybody has the same it’s his first come first serve you know and orgasms for work shirts that was my hand jobs for Humanity and helping a tree with two or so you’ll see it yeah it’s a white paper was written so is he ever gets faster so so that’s how I’m not going to be a cult leader is that I’m not going to charge people money to be Pawns in my game of or are you going to be players in my Game of Thrones Township Township twister you will get paid handsomely to be in my theater my game of Township twister and you can quit you can get any time you know that’s that’s that’s the thing to you won’t be like oh if I walk away now you know that then where I’m not like what I paid for I’m I’m already invested so much forever so so many different dynamics of of incentivization happening in this thing is so anyway that that was I think it is important to lay that out and and this is probably the first time I’ve articulated it on the podcast but I just was having this conversation today with this answer the CD metaphor thing where it’s like you know it did that it’s it’s a problem that way so so that’s I will not be extracting money from people in that in that way I’d rather pay them to be in my in my Productions and feel better about it that way so getting back to the fun stuff in the production itself so imagining that that would be the way from now on where I’m like if you want to that’s basically what I just described about that circuit of three people as a minimum to starting point is like that is the that is first base now you know that’s first base because getting into the circuitry of actual intercourse that’s where it required that’s where we get into the medical the medical responsibilities aspects and we get into more of the karmic sharing we’re really swapping scum he’s on an astral level at that point more so than if it’s an outercourse thing and you can’t go back once you know I don’t want to sound like a prepaid only sound like a six- future but but they were right about this mean you’re not wrong about everything they’ve had no sex for anybody ever. Is not the solution to people having sexually transmitted demons running rampant all over the place and it’s about making them your friends and making them work for you not against you and making them expose themselves properly and in you know where it’s not a pure realm we are not going to be perfectly protected in fear we can strive for that and we can use Kundalini and Prana and mantras and all of our medicines in purgatives and things to create a cleaner vessel to make more harmonious more resonance more signal-to-noise ratio and that is what to me this is all about and why we are missing out so badly to not be like I see this if God is wanted you got it for not created to nipples I can’t suck both nipples at the same time I tried some women I can do it on I’ve done it and you can do it some women is possible but for the most part so what does that mean what are you do do you limit God or do you just find someone else to be on the left or right side of you you know what is the big deal so when I think about this math equation how many erotic how many out of the box meaning not really the selective like subjective nuanced little erogenous zones that people get overtime in our lives but the out-of-the-box everybody is wired this way count how many erogenous zones you have and how what is the minimum number of mouse penis and genitals or fingers are human appendages required to simultaneously stimulate all those places it’s more than one person I can tell you that much you know so I just want us to start there and be creative in 2N to learn how to understand that we’re missing out and we should be wanting to gamify maximizing human potential for orgasmic pleasure because that is exorcism orgasm equals exorcism in some cultures who are Les Les Mis Sara Lee poetic about the floury discourse of symbols about sex life like a Latin American Shaman is said about her sexuality in the end in her how she explained why monogamous marriage was not really a thing in a culture that permitted extramarital sex and it was that in her mind and I am not going to say her name to cool her but I will say to paraphrase the essence of this wisdom is that to her mind it was just like an orgasm is like taking out the trash and that is not that’s not to say that it is mundane or a chore it is that it is a responsibility of hygiene in your household of your body Temple you need to have orgasms they need to be fulfilling need to get the job done and that is the exorcism aspect of it so the howling screeching all of these things that are considered that witches were burned forming figli sounds that those are the sounds of actual Holiness the set of holy the sound of Holiness is a woman’s orgasm and so let’s make those come more abundantly and let’s utilize map map the erogenous zones out of the box and then map the additional ones that are my favorite song and when you talk to me like this and this certain place I’m in the back of my head there whatever and then everyone has their own map so we can learn each other’s maps and if you don’t know your own map then you can ask people to help you there’s people who would love to lick and kiss and touch you and head to toe to find and explore you and and from a breasted state of consciousness D nice and yes I like to will you bring out the best in me that’s all I think that’s all you guys add that I can’t top that is the way to end so then really that was we didn’t even know that we put the icing on the motherfuking cake by saying you bring out the Best in Me so there was a documentary about at the peak of my desire to become a a rock star in the the crust Punk metal genre grindcore all that fun stuff I was studying that I wanted to understand and clock the music industry so I was watching every documentary I could find understanding music marketing and all the stuff and then I found this great documentary about about Jimi Hendrix and and I believe it was his fiance at a time who later became his wife if I remember correctly and she was talking about the time where he was building momentum and getting lots of gigs but still underground and she said something that stuck with me forever and if this moment which is it basically the hidden tension was used turn Express yeah we we all knew he was going to get sign or we all knew that you was going to take off he was going to blow up and so she said it was just about if someone puts put the icing on the motherfuking cake you know and I know and I felt that we we’re ready for that and we did some we had some we had some ice and get put on a motherfuking cake we did you get you always want more but I look back and I don’t think we could handle more so we got what we got and now I’m on a different I have a different cake I have a different cake mix and I don’t know if it’s that time I don’t know if it’s time to put the icing on the cake or not yeah I don’t know I mean the cake it’s getting cold she heard it mean if you’d if anyone has icing out there can it please be stevia-sweetened go Steven Johnson I don’t know how to hack them will work on that today I know it’s actually what I heard is that it’s a weird additive that they used to cut it because it’s so super sweet that you would basically died of sweetness if you didn’t like the step on it with some other things so I think that’s why I love growing Stevia and having a leaf to munch on and put in the tea because then you know is nothing else being put into it and it’s just as powerful you don’t really need to if you had the the live leaves one leaf enough will be enough to knock your head off for an hour so yeah I know on that snow yeah we’re going to put this devious fresh leave puree motherfuking icing on the cake I will put the icing on my own motherfuking cake that reminds me in 1 minute I just when I thought we couldn’t go out with a bigger bang this is going to be at because there was a a ritual ceremonial I called we called apart emoni where was the Psychedelic birthday party and we smeared cake all over each other and had to basically devour for the birthday gal of her own cake and it was just nipples and asses and I wanted to be in after from there I was my breasts Elsa. Playing for sure that brother and brother best me for sure but that when I got to put the icing on cake my damn self so don’t let anyone fucking tell you that you’re not none of me if you feel like it I mean I think we’re done I just can’t I’m going to fucking drop my phone right now when I might drop my phone on the couch citizen of the count but oh shit it’s next level add icy Cipher geise that’s going to have some cake with that icing okay thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

How to Turn People On to Your Brand with Adult Entertainment Publicist Brian S. Gross TPP194

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In this episode I’m joined by Brian S. Gross, a highly accomplished entertainment industry publicist who’s been making a living by making people famous for many years. I reached out for advice several years ago after discovering his unique expertise in my most ambitious areas: music and adult entertainment. We recently reconnected and I thought it would be great to have him give us a glimpse into his personal and professional journey and discuss  the role of PR companies in the evolving media landscape.

We discuss:

  • his early passionate and persistent efforts to get his foot in the door at high end record companies
  • how he managed to work directly with some of the most legendary artists in the music industry
  • his evolution from the music industry to the adult industry
  • lessons he learned from his mentors that helped him start his own company
  • the day-to-day of public relations work
  • the urgent need for PR in the age of social media
  • how to turn people on to your brand niche
  • how adult entertainment media is no longer one dimensional
  • how you can find media, writers, etc who will want to discover what you are doing
  • how you can find those who will want to make others aware and help build a fan base
  • his attitude of fearlessness and his “why not” approach to not over-thinking things
  • his application of the wisdom of Yoda, to only do or do not, but not to try
  • his words of encouragement for me to be willing to take risks to promote what I believe is important
  • how you never know who will pick up a story so its best to get it out there

About Brian:
Brian Gross, President of BSG PR, has been in the service of media and public relations for over 26 years. Gross has been employed by companies such as Def American RecordingsWarner Brothers RecordsReprise RecordsElektra Entertainment GroupVivid Entertainment Group, and such organizations as The Lollapalooza Tour. Brian Gross was an Executive Producer for Reality-X: The Search For Adam & Eve.  His background includes all facets of public and media relations, working with some of the largest businesses, celebrities and music acts in the world.

Clients of BSG PR, past and present, include Gene Simmons, Sasha Grey, Adam & Eve, Penthouse, Phoenix Books, The AVN Adult Entertainment Expo, Joanna Angel, BurningAngel, Greg Lansky, Girlsway, Pink Visual, Evil Angel, Girlsway, Autoblow A.I., Fearless Man, Nina Hartley, Lupe Fuentes, Kendra Sunderland, LA Pop Art, Liberation Entertainment, Ecko TV, Kaiju Big Battel, Lucky 13 Clothing, Pinup Girl Clothing, Punk Rock Bowling and Music Festival,  Chuck Zito, Omarosa, Blanc/Biehn Productions, Stockroom, Tony Clifton, Sheri’s Ranch, Big Teaze Toys, MyGirlFund, WantedList, WoodRocket and many others…

Please visit his website at:
http://bsgpr.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 194 I am being joined by Brian s gross of BSG public relations and he is such a jaw-dropping about page I just decided I really do this but I decided I definitely want to read this to really put the context in here because with with it that the merging of the technology space in the adult industry space and actually to give a little bit of backstory on this we connected now it’s been about 4 years or so since first actually started putting out a press release and seeking really advisement and consult consultation within the the the pr companies within the adult industry to see if there was any possibility to get some traction doing this sort of shamanic pornography and feminist porn kind of brand that I’ve been trying to develop mixing my music and video production and ethics and politics into media and so I have really been kind of putting The Feelers out into the space and Brian gave me some feedback back in the day and we have serendipitously reconnected recently and so I thought why not let’s have a butt supposed to connect in in this podcast domain and again I’m astounded by what he’s accomplished in some of the parallels in our Journeys here so I’m just going to go ahead and read the about page and then we’ll get started with the interview so Jared is BSG public relations takes a precise and strategic approach to promoting all facets of entertainment and efficient and motivated staff handles everything from intricate details of executive with City to positioning our clientele within compelling and effective media campaigns Street marketing teams and Creative Marketing efforts BSG public relations handles all avenues of communication is bringing your study to approach to marketing media and public relations with Creative Solutions that furthers the message & image of our clients we handle everything from the intricate details of executive publicity to positioning clients with compelling media campaigns we look to broaden and brand artist companies and products multi-level publicity campaigns combined with knowledge and background in every facet of entertainment media and communication the most importantly always putting the client first Brian Gross president of BSG PR has been in the service of media and public relations for over 26 years gross has been employed by company said Steve American recordings Warner Brothers records reprise records Elektra Entertainment Group Vivid Entertainment Group and such organizations as the Lollapalooza tour Brian Gross was an executive producer for Rio TX the search for Adam and Eve his background includes all facets of public and media relations working with some of the largest businesses celebrities and music acts in the world Brian thank you so much for joining me on the podcast and please tell us all about your personal Journey how did you get into this position of such influence and expertise school is my senior year and I’m a I’m a big Sports person as well and I was not good enough to make the varsity basketball team but wound up helping out with the younger teams and I want to getting fired for verbally assaulting a referee who completely screwed up a game and all of a sudden I had free time and I literally took out my CD collection which I know that sounds so funny in this day and age but went through it and started calling record labels and pretty much got blown off by many of them because I was a senior in high school they were looking for college kids and one label an independent label def American the girl who answered the phone was in the PR department and she still one of my best friends to the stay cuz she called she I said come in for an interview and before I knew it I was driving after school three days a week from Newbury Park California to Burbank to make press kits and learn all about the music industry well that is exciting so what were some of the what what are some of the bands in an album is like what were you into at the time I was definitely a classic rock kid a NuWave and I just wasn’t you know I was sort of what the radio fed me so you know I hadn’t really branched out as far as my music likings were concerned and you know early 90s you know 90 to 91 92 you realize just how there was no such a divided because you know really popular stuff was extremely poppy you were on the end of sort of the metal era you had this grunge thing happening you had this sort of underground music thing happening you had punk rock obviously happening but I grew up in the suburbs and and it just didn’t resonate with me at the time you know then you go to a record label and you start going through the CDs and you just start this massive Discovery and bands walk in and you meet people and you spend time with artists and musicians and it just completely through open a world that I was you know I was aware but I wasn’t aware to that extent and it was pretty exciting to just see the variety especially at this specific record label the variety of of music that was being put out and and how exciting it was awesome so from there so what how to tell us the story of how you evolved from the doing stuff mostly in the music and more and more General entertainment business into the adult industry which I see you have a lot of accolades from so I I mean I work my way up in the record industry from 93 to 99 I I was took a couple internships than an assistant job than a West Coast tour tour publicist West Coast Regional tour publicist job and then I saw what master was doing and I realized you know as a as a low man on the totem pole in the satellite office for record label I better figure something out and literally fell in my lap where two people one of which had this specific that had this position and and the other was the brother of the owner of the company hit me up and said hey you know you should interview for this job that’s going to open up to be the head of PR and marketing for a company called Vivid which I was obviously very familiar with as a young male and so the money was a lot more and the opportunity was there and it was just one of those things I was 23 and I wasn’t going to say no I couldn’t pass it up so I became the head of PR and marketing for Vivid Entertainment in the spring of 99 while you were busy absorbing all of this until from the corporate world and very established Enterprises and then you’re building essentially what will become your your own personal company and brand can you tell us about some of the some of the lessons you learned some of the highlights of of your journey along that way if kind of building your own becoming an entrepreneur as opposed to an employee working for Stephen her she had a very hands-off approach you know he wanted me to practice the way I had learned doing publicity at the record labels and bring that same approach to the adult film stars that were under contract with this company and to the company itself so I really had this sort of open book of you no opportunities and and and really just publicizing a a massive brand his thing was don’t spend any money which you know you laugh at but it was pretty when you when you eliminate budgets and you have to be creative that’s that made you have to work relationships in and put ideas out there and look for opportunities that I think in this day and age we wouldn’t even think twice about it but at the time we’re pretty groundbreaking you know so you know what that in mind it just became abaa I learned so much from that that when I went on my own I took sort of his entrepreneurship of run Dino of starting and running a massive adult entertainment company with what I learned is being a publicist and I’m just sort of found my way I had some incredible mentors the forest publicist go ahead incredible mentors who you know I went to when I started my company said how to what am I doing how do I do this you know and they were so giving and and so just easy you know so open Armon and I’m just taught me so much in a really short. Of time to where I was just off and running and getting clients and doing what I’ve been doing what I could I mean for me getting up every day and doing my job isn’t necessarily hard and I think I’m fortunate that I have that s Ellison and work ethic that I know is very challenging for many people but you know I just learned quickly I could get a lot of clients and and synergize and and do a lot for them and and just sort of Broad and from there awesome yeah I’m having flashbacks to reading a book called guerrilla marketing back when I was doing start up stuff and and it really did get a budget mattered so you had to teach you had to be creative and you had to think out-of-the-box so I can I can resonate with that and I remember one of a CEO for a company I work for has said you know the difference if there’s a difference between marketing and PR and marketing is what you say about yourself in PR is what other people say about you and you really really want to have that that perspective that that’s where the third person perspective in your printing and copying in to have it buffering so that the artists and the company’s don’t aren’t doing all of that he’s some kind of damage control I guess you could say and sometimes they just that stuff that Shameless self-promotion that people people can see through it on the on the receiving end and then on the giving end you’d rather not be tooting your own horn so much so it’s a really vital function that you play in the in the ecosystem of have any kind of business and I love to hear about just soap for people who aren’t that well versed in what a publicist does it would appear our company does tell us about the sort of day today and I’m kind of break it down for people who might not know famous for a living right you know the longer sort of breakdown of that is you know celebrities Brands companies hire a publicist to get there messaging in there and what they have to sell out there to the media which is then you know red watched listen to buy hopefully millions and increases sales increases exposure and increases the the growth of of whatever the brand or the company or the person is so it’s an aspect of marketing but it’s solely deals with sort of the public Persona and then obviously the media which radio TV print and online are the four basics of that and obviously they in this day and age you know what you know podcast would kind of be filed under radio but it’s also online it’s audio but there’s there can be a video component that can be a a written component so you have a lot of Lines Blurred when it comes to the media nowadays and I just think for me it’s important for my clients in this day and age there’s so much opportunity there so many ways to get your message out there and you know me and you know my team and and myself we look to find those opportunities finals relationships and and do everything we can for clients to to accomplish the goals that they have female except for us how’s your job gotten more difficult at all or more challenging in the age of social media where you have the potential for celebrities to put their foot in their mouth to and create these Mega backlashes online that you kind of do have to do some some damage control on that do you have any thoughts what the the social media landscape has done for your industry herself you know social media gives you a way to do a more immediate Outreach but sometimes you have to be careful clients have to be careful what they say out there you know what I work more left-of-center stuff where you know I’m not working conservative projects that you know they have to be really careful what they say but certainly at I work with clients that you know we talked about messaging and we talked about what they put out there and make sure we’re on the right we’re on the right track and we’re in agreement and on the right path but I think social media you know I think it’s it’s positive it’s certainly a life-changing things it certainly has changed the landscape of society and and whatnot on a larger scale but you’re not the end of the day we all are just fascinated by other people and they do so it just open doors opens doors in that respect what do you know actually makes me think about how it made some sense you talking about Dimension to have the image of Tower Records on Sunset and I’m just the decline of the record industry and all of the digitization of all kinds of media and how that took a big chunk out of profits for a lot of folks in an industry but when I based on what you were just say no actually realized you might think that the same thing would happen to PR once people could become demigod celebrities on social media by themselves but the reality is they probably need to hire a publicist more than ever because you need that filter right you need that you need someone to advise you on on the strategies of how you express yourself because it’s so easy to just fire something off that just Neo take sweat they say it could take 5 years to build a career in 5 seconds to destroy rights and all I would add to it is you know you need you need someone in my position when you have something that is so public and you need someone that can help you because a lot of times there is a lot of Crisis and a lot of people don’t know what to do and we’ve certainly witnessed over the years when when things go wrong or how you know when things are handled poorly and you know we live at a time where the media is constantly attacked so they’re going to attack that so you want to be on the right side of things and you want you know if you want to handle your media aspect as professionals possible and it’s there are challenges you know I’m not a brain surgeon this isn’t brain surgery by any any respect but it’s an important part of the marketing and sales aspect and the overall brand awareness of who you are and what you’re trying to accomplish yeah I think that was a good real basic intro and overview and just kind of hammers hammers in that this part of the ecosystem of success as a creative artist is not is not going away in or should it and so it was it is a breath of fresh air and I think about it a lot I think about a lot how how to moderate myself and there’s a lot of fear and and hesitation in this climate of you know you can really you can really put your foot in your mouth so I I I think it says probably at yeah it’s it’s been on my mind you know this whole your sector of industry and where it’s at so this is timely for me until I guess I would say to be somewhat selfish for a moment here with the last few minutes I would say that I guess bringing this back to what my my unique value proposition is to the world as my representing myself and my brain really it is I guess it is kind of element in a way I’m saying sexuality and pornography and all forms of of music and art they can all actually be very healing and very therapeutic and there’s almost a bias against that because people sometimes in some sense people want to just have really either extremely kind of edgy entertainment that just gets them off sexually or titillates them or sort of just appeals to that Hollywood sense of just completely not necessarily that intentional or that healing or that spiritual and so there’s kind of a bias against what I’m offering which could be seen his kind of all you’re you’re just a goody-two-shoes you’re kind of a mama’s boy you want people to be meditating and doing yoga and actually it might my sort of reply to that that biases that actually know what what some of the practices that are done in shamanic Sexual Healing Sarah on your work are actually equally if not more extreme and in and actually riveting and and put you on the edge of your seat as is anything that would be considered Gonzo or Triple X Ino Xtreme Hardcore and it really is Hardcore to be doing some of the more spiritual aspects of sexuality so when I I put out a press release I don’t know if that was the one that you saw or if that was a wet what the time frame was around that but I would just say to you do you think there is a niche for what would I would call shamanic pornography or pouring that intense did not only educate but also to promote healing and healing from trauma and and what not yours if not longer you know when I first got in the industry as far as adult entertainment goes is very one-dimensional especially the media coverage and it was all about getting eyeballs because you could use the word pornography in a way that you know people be like oh what what it what are they going to talk about and then then then there was a change in the change happened when media like Vice came along and media like BuzzFeed and and other media that said to a certain extent and we’re not going to just treat this as one-dimensional because it isn’t a one-dimensional discussion it is in a one-dimensional product you know as as the adult industry expanded I found it interesting that the media expanded in their coverage and you have certainly the negatives does the word in general is certainly looked at in a negative way and I rarely use it I say it because of that is once you say that word and it’s you know maybe one day it’ll be changed or looked at not as this glaring sing but as a form of entertainment form of Education a form of you know healing as as you as you work on but the media look to do more coverage and be more multi-dimensional and to what you’re trying to accomplish and what you’re doing what you’re doing and what you’re trying to accomplish to my point is you can find media that’s not easy but you can find people you can find writers you can find me there you can find public entities you can find people that will want to discover what you are doing and will want to make others aware and will want to build the foundation and build a fanbase in and build a unit around it so which is not the issue these days the issues speed of time and the issue is just sort of the you know overwhelming amount of media that we deal with everyday especially in our current political climate where we’re being overdosed with one piece of toxic news after another and end toxic not men the political fashion just met met you know we’re bombarded with different types of briefs and stories and just aspects of life that can that are just so fast and furious and you’re trying to fit in there you know you’re almost trying to swim upstream and place you know place your story on a rock while well water keeps hitting in the face so I I I constantly am taking on opportunities and clients and different types of niches and different types of products and different types of stories because I know who’s to say that I know what a media person will want to write about or not I don’t what I do is I give them the opportunity and I find out hey is this is this interesting do you want to do this do you want to cover this and it’s yes or no or mid might be a maybe or they’re on the fence or they’ll think about it and we did we discuss it and see what happens so it’s just a the media is a constant River at its its 24/7 its domestic and international you know stories can break anywhere in the world and then just travel the speed of light and around the globe and become as you know become viral so it’s just a it’s just the the effort and the Mine Song of people in your position as to am I ready to take this Challenge on I’ve something Niche I’ve something unique but I think it’s important and and how do I get it out there and and what you know how many people can I turn on to what I have to build from from where I’m at well those are profound words of wisdom and I’ve got chills because I know that at some point I have I’ve got two to cross that and make that leap of faith sand and be willing to be criticized and be willing to be sued and be willing to be all kinds of things and having that team and I feel like the podcast has been a tool to to kind of build that team and to know if there is a you know what keeps me up at night is what happens if there is an influx of capital what if there is a viral content piece that get 50 goes out and it’s not that you become rich and famous overnight at you is that you become suddenly under the microscope and you need to know about compliance with a lot of things and so that that’s my Virgo mind getting getting very sort of The Fearless aspect where I try not to overthink even though it’s impossible but I just I just try and push you know you just you know I I’ve constantly at a career of why not you know why not internet a record label why not internet another one why not drop out of school you know cuz it was just wasting time and money you know and then why not become an assistant why not become a tour publicist why not go to an adult entertainment company Why not start your own PR Company why not work with Gene Simmons you know it’s you know if you can answer why not then there’s no reason you know and you know we always I’m a Star Wars junkie and I think you might be in the same generation or not but we all sort of live by the the words until the age of of Yoda and so you try not you do or you don’t you do not but you just don’t try to go for it and you know there’s certainly you you think things out and they’re processing is calculated risk and what not but I’ve always another mindset where if you if you’re if you’re thinking too much about it then it’s just time wasted you know you’re not pushing forward and what you’re trying to accomplish but once you get past that you know and and you’re not going to know if I sitting around thinking you’ll never know if it takes off or not you just won’t it is the action and it is the risk that you have to eunos put out there and find out if you have something or not and you know I definitely I’ve had all kinds of clients I really have and I’ve had successes clients it succeeded sold our company and made lots of money and I have clients that failed you know but it just nothing worked and Company disbanded and I’ve got you know hundreds of files of clients over 19 years and but they all they all went for it you know wherever they are you know there’s somewhere you know that they took a risk and even when I produced a reality show you know what they say it was a risk I was a two-year process to even get to production but once you know once we decide we’re going to do it my partners and I at the time of that production company we just put her head down and we weren’t going to give up and we got the parties involved then it did well could have done better but it did well exist in there broke a lot of ground but it’s definitely important you know there’s just that dividing line of doing something and in what it is that hold you back from from going for it yeah I hear you there is just kind of wrap up here to respect your time and then I will just say that again More Chills and more of just that that cause mcnab’s you know there was there is one Flagship I guess I would say it was for me was like the pilot episode of the series that I’m doing now it’s called sexorcism the tantric Opera twitch wow Google Keyword that I want to fully on because a lot of without weather so I can get is an album is a band that did an album called sexorcism there’s there’s a kind of I don’t know if it’s play with the idea but but what I’m bringing to it is it is definitely from a pure-hearted place of sincere documentarian work and so hopefully that’s I think what’s going to be what I would put money into an invest in to try to get some some media coverage on and I’ve been a little bit shy about it now for a couple of years just wanting to not be the one to push that in people’s faces but that’s exactly the layer of buffer that I need of someone to say hey look take it or leave it this is what this guy’s doing here it is and if I can have that someone like you help me with that then I think it’ll be it’ll be a dream come true so we will we will talk offline about what your thoughts are for the trajectory of a project like that but I would love to discuss obviously well and I look forward to having that discussion and obviously I appreciate being on your podcast in and you know getting to have this kind of discussion I think I ain’t got to a certain extent I think people you’re right don’t really understand publicity and public relations and media relations and you know marketing to a full extent but I think it’s you know having the conversation and getting the opportunity to talk about it even one person goes wow that’s interesting I want to I want to know what that career is you know something I’m always interested in doing it you know making people aware of the career and path I chose the life I chose and you know going from there well I’m sure there’s a lot of people who would say as they received the rewards that they couldn’t have done it without you and so hopefully I will be able to join those ranks sooner rather than later and again and again thank you for reaching out to me as very synchronistic yeah let’s let’s be in touch do you want to tell people where to find where to find your work and just yeah side BSG pr.com and my Twitter and my Instagram RBS GPR and it’s financials at when I made the company name it was like well we’ll just Brian Scott gross of my name and BSG are my initials and public relations and it was just a simple as that so I guess I was another thing I learned of like trying to keep you know keep it linear and you’re hiring me and so that’s where a Vsepr came from awesome alright will Brian thank you again so much that I had a great time and can’t wait to get to know you better and move on from here so thank you so much again and have a great afternoon thank you you as well look forward to catching up with you again real soon all right take care of podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the 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Wisdom for Practicing Ethical Magic with Michael Bonner TPP186

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In this episode I’m joined by my new dear friend Mike Bonner for a discussion about ethical magic, sex magic, consciousness, love, fantasy, romance, pansexuality, and much more.

 

He does a beautiful job laying out both fundamental and advanced concepts for navigating the color spectrum of magic. He also provides very practical down to earth skill sets and tools for keeping your magical practice on a healthy course.

 

This episode I know will stand as a perennial resource of wisdom to help up and coming seekers avoid the many pitfalls that result from unchecked egoic tendencies in all areas of life. This is a true gift of heart purification!

 

About Mike:
His super power is to help others discover their own personal power and awareness and claim it, through magick, psychology, nature, tantra, and self exploration. Bonner has been studying and practicing magick, tantra, and psychology for over 15 years.

 

 With the help and teachings of shamans, spiritual guides, gods & goddesses, psychologists, therapists, unbridled and fearless self exploration and pure beings in his life, to empower his journey of discovery for himself and others.

 

Connect with Mike at:
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 186 I am doing an episode with a new dear friend of mine Mike Bonner who I’ve connected with my social media and is he’s been a listener and fan of the show and we have so much in common I was a long time coming to get this podcast done and we will be many more forthcoming I’m sure you will fall deeply madly in love with all of his wisdom and insights and really enjoy the subject matter which is really foundational to averting catastrophe and and and staying on course for a really beautiful magical manifestation of all kinds so yes again I hope you enjoy and namaste find and reach their own personal strength and power and to be better solves I did a lot of self-discovery over the years it just slipped through a lot of different different I guess variables you can say like through magic to Tantra through I just communicating with people also just kind of going back to my younger years just kind of you know I know that you come from a Punky background and I was in that as well with some coffee stuff and all this kind of such my grandmother had a son used to do this all the time when I was kid so I watched them to all these things and it was really intriguing and I knew that they were actually doing something because I actually didn’t really know what they were doing it’s like seven or eight years old that I care I don’t I don’t mess with anything dark like that I practice a lot of Earth Magic and Sex Magic white magic things like that just trying to use all that energy that I get to build in there and get to like thrusting into creativity that goes into music or I also do hair I do have a barber and a hairdresser and so a lot of it comes out that way and that was also a way that I discovered I guess kind of what I can do for people on they told me that I helped them a lot and I did I I didn’t realize what I was doing at the time when I was working on my client says as a new Barber and hairdresser I just was a very curious person and I wanted to basically just kind of find out everything about the person that I could not in a creepy way either I just felt that the interaction was so personally it’s a vicious open up to you so I I I tried to listen even even even now I’d like to try to listen as best as I can to what people are actually saying whether it be through their words or their body language cuz I believe both are and I think they’re both equally as important I think we’ve all been sitting in front of somebody when they’ve been saying something on their words you know are coming out but their bodies actually saying something else not just desire to me is a real test connection I think within that person solves so I started noticing that another people then I started asking myself is you know I was doing these things too and so I just started to really look into that and also what people were telling me about you know I could see them and work on conversations go away for a month or two or whatever it was and they live out you know this thing that we talked about her and that’s when people say thank you so much I guess I never really thought about it until that point and that’s kind of as a young adult I’d say about 19 or 20 so I started looking more into the different types of Magic the different types of Tantra which I didn’t realize I was already doing all so you know people have this really funny way of how they think about Tantra the nights I think a conversation for another time cuz that’s a whole other topic I guess that’s that’s really my intro all that all sounds very good to me thank you for sharing that apologies for some of the background noise right now but I know are so we talked about it before one of the reasons why I wanted to say hey we should talk about this around feel like something has been missing as far as really laying a solid foundation for what different best practices of ethical magic really are and what some of the the the core principles that people may may be overlooking and just anybody who is sophisticated it has a long-standing practice study and expiration going to various traditions and they’re all that always intrigued me so I love to hear you help us understand some of the 101 aspects of what it means to even embarked on the path of empowering yourself to feel that you’ve been you could achieve magical powers to help with whatever comes to mind if you call yourself different terminology for magic and basically I people can call themselves whatever they like forgot my my what I believe are the real foundations of magic is accountability and responsibility I think those are two very very very strong pieces of the foundation that also translate into into life. I think but when you’re actually practicing magic you know if you’re going to set out to do some kind of ritual or spell whether it’s something that you want to do of your own making and will or you know of something that’s that’s been around for a while or whatever is the intention you have to have to State your intentions first and foremost it’s one of them what’s important things to do even before creating a Sacred Space in a circle for yourself on I like to start there it can take 10 seconds or I can take 10 minutes or longer it is whatever you want whatever your intention or your intentions are super super clear and just try to be really specific and remember that accountability and responsibility the second thing I think you have to do always right after Arby’s just asked for protection whatever it is you like to call upon whether it’s God or gods or goddesses or deities or you have specific helpers that you like to use Envision yourself in some way than protecting you or something of what I what I like to do is basically I I I surround myself in the circle of these big Rose Bush’s basically with these big thorns and these really really sturdy branches and he’s really beautiful roses and everything from the outside can almost see him that’s that’s what I do and I think that’s really really really really have to start so set your intention ask for your protection and pretty much from there on you can start so you can create trade environment I would say either that’s what I like to do if I have the time on the fit something big that you want to put a lot into whether it’s something that you’re manifesting or or celebrating or whatever it is that you’re doing you’re looking for some answers you know what whatever that is you like also candles or Pinot pillows and blankets or whatever is going to make you comfortable to make you feel is going to be I really actually love to to listen to dancing dance select Lisa Gerrard, magic and you said is my soundtrack goldfrapp for me is another one and she’s an insanely powerful witch and and gives us spells and rituals in front of our faces visually and and threw her words and people don’t even realize it so I’d that’s kind of what I like to do when I have the time to spend on relief. Like I said I know you’ve talked a lot about how important it is to open up chakras and it is really important to do that through the kind of ducks are doing a breathing and end this is really really really opening every single cell and poor and hair and everything in this body that work together because we’re meant to experience a lot of different things and then people are are afraid they’re afraid of everything and it’s it’s actually quite a shame that so many people lives in fear of of change of fear of themselves exterior of identity which I think there is a huge lack of these days you know what social media being so so big and what it is you know I know it’s obvious to state that you know it’s a Time suck her and it’s you know all it does is it really makes people feel bad about themselves and in technology you know we’re more connected today than we ever were and we’re also super disconnected. Only with ourselves but with everything else around us you know I really believe I really do believe that there are three types of people and I think I’ve I’ve talked to you about this before been in the world there’s they’re really honestly I’ve tried to break this down to the most simple simplest form and inform me like I said the three types I think that are out there are aware people people like us people who are trying to be better through our mind body and spirit helping ourselves helping each other helping the environment helping everything Universe all that kind of stuff you know we have to be aware of the soldiers I don’t know how else to tend to say that and then we have the masses who are basically just these zombies these are the people you know that are walking off cliffs to get a picture of walking into the streets and they’re just you know they’re consuming and they’re they’re literally eating each other’s faces while we are standing right in front of them and they have no real awareness that there are doing this they’re just sort of this spoon-fed weird overgrown lump is of sorts in now and I don’t know if there are any if there if there’s any help for that. The masses you know which I like to call the zombies and then let’s just let’s go for the 3rd I believe that the other ones are vampires vampires and those are the parasites up there those are the people that just really latch on I mean it is what it is it’s a vampire is Parasite you know we’ve all come across the state if they want to suck you in and they they need to suck you into all that they created the but are you know I just I basically don’t really pay a lot of attention to that eventually they just get bored and move on so that’s kind of how I died deal with that I guess since we’re talking about three years cuz three such powerful number another another thing that I really believes and is that we have three different brains and I know we talked about this before I made you laugh about this but I do believe that we have three different brains one is our head which is the the Periscope with the feeding tube attached to it if you remember correctly. I just we can go on and on about it you know for all of our logic blocks us from a lot of things and it it also thinks that that it tells us reason but what it does is it ends up talking us out of some really good things also and then we have the second brain which I believe is your heart that’s pretty pretty simple that’s where all the emotions come from that’s that’s where all the pier emotions come from it’s it’s it’s whatever you’re doing whenever you get those feelings of of just being so incredibly insurance so happy and and it’s almost childlike you know these childlike feelings of swords and then I want to move on to the third Friday which is your guts and that’s responsible for all the the intuition that most people just choose to ignore that were frankly I think they just don’t hear it sometimes or maybe most of the time I also think that’s where are most Primal South comes from and I try to use those three brains separately to identify different I guess emotions that come from something situations that happened you know I think you have to be pretty clear about where that is coming from to be able to physically pinpoint if it’s if it’s if it’s all in motion if it’s something that I was trying to tell us they’re just not aware of and I like to when I get to talk to people when they’re sitting in my chair or if I’m having a coffee with some water or whatever I mean I’ve I’ve had some great conversations with people just sitting waiting to get my car washed you know all these little connections I I believe in synchronicity also I think synchronicity is is is a real thing and it’s a huge thing and I think that also coincides goes along with magic you know magic is a a change of consciousness within yourself and also be able being able to to change the rib that Consciousness around you it all kind of goes back and points to the same kind of thing you know when when we’re in tune we not only are better people for everything around us but specifically for other people and I think that’s really important and you know cuz the world that we live in right now is just like I said earlier so full of fear and and come and paranoia and I think that everybody just needs to kind of take a step back and really be accountable and be responsible for yourself in hey we’re not be a little responsible for other people to sometimes I don’t think it’s such a bad thing is to also from previous especially bad is part of the ocean that I have kicked her out for a while I really am not going to stay the name of this this fellow but I will say that I was interested in studying a a very accomplished black time trick magician who has very interesting thesis about the difference between white magic and black magic and into to paraphrase what one of the things he said it was basically that you can if you were if you were to truly be a projectile practitioner white magic then you would not attempt to influence the outcome really evenie evenie life of that because that would be so presumptuous to assume that you have the almighty waste God and therefore Could Do no harm and everything you do is going to be perfectly each of the life but more but more realistic see that that’s that’s wishful thinking is my any more realistically it’s it’s it’s a safer intellectual place to own that if you were trying to make any adjustments on the outcomes of anyone’s life your own & Beyond then actually physically a black magician because you are defying the the natural order of things and it’s all semantics my grandmother they were really trying to influence and actually make these things happen good most of the time it was not good and they did and they did it you know I’m with white magic and and and Earth Magic and sex Magik I I don’t I mean I guess influence I guess is the word we can use for now you’re sort of just taking all of this energy bill topping in one way or another if you know however you felt it up and then being able to use that into I don’t know if I don’t know if I would say influence I would say uh manifestation really some people call it prayer some people call it meditation whatever you want to call it I just feel I don’t know I feel like with with those types of magic in the lighter stuff you’re more of asking verses asking and kind of directing your you’re not you’re not really pushing for this this this intense outcome so to speak I mean there’s a there isn’t there definitely has been crazy intense outcomes with different things that I’ve done before but for me I can only speak personally I out of my experience those who have come out of liver a surprise when they did and then I ended up feeling things are experiencing things I’ve never done before I knew that I hit these other levels out of magic so I guess I don’t have never heard I’ve never I’ve never heard that argument but I do understand what what he’s saying by that answer or might my response to that make any sense I think we’re really getting somewhere because you know the simple I guess the shore most likely people who think they’re doing only white magic are doing great magic and people who think they’re only doing Blackmagic are also do it yeah I know I get I totally did I just have never heard it put that way I can only speak from my experience at all I think that’s where the influencing comes comes in the play is that I’ve noticed and gray like you said or black it is it’s usually a demand for something whether that’s a strong demand or a light one or or whatever it does that make sense what you just said right there is so pivotal because if you like I would love to have to be instrumental in in training a new the Next Generation magicians who who who understand you are not understanding of what the parameters of black magic are to eat I don’t want to do it or I don’t do it and do it for someone to trust that you really don’t do is like how do you define it so you know that intuition brain the gut-brain you know something doesn’t feel right doing something that you maybe you’re questioning to a point you know you that much then I would say stop I mean the same thing goes for like when you’re learning a haircut. funny things when it comes to Magic but also it’s that intention and I mean all four of those to me are before you do anything and I guess you know kind of going back to the house he was in a sort of saying that the white magicians are black and black or white and you know all of this is your job to be to be really responsible in in what you’re doing and what you’re asking and what your intentions are I mean it literally all just goes and points back to the same thing when I look at it you know I’m always very very very careful and I’ve been practicing the stuff for sale like I was really honing in on some stuff and then I ended up being a moving to the desert like I do know we talked before the last couple years and not that really propelled me into a whole other level of magic that I’ve never even knew I was capable of and that’s that’s what sort of solidified the the power that I have is things like I said to help other mothers finders in to claim it and and share my practices and what’s helped me put my mind at ease and not not in not just my mind or my brains and all three of them but but my my soul and everything else has is well you know I I’ve always believed this I believe that people really really really have to Value themselves and I mean really value themselves cuz it’s a direct reflection of how you interact with everything around you not just the other people but Adam Wilson you know that our sins and everything and I feel like a lot of people don’t value themselves these days for whatever reason it is and then like I said where you can sell you endless consuming society and in the end it didn’t they just bursting at the seams with human child basically it’s their eyes and ears are being consumed by you know the Kardashians and the news and the biscuits and you know just all this crazy shit instead of putting other things in in there you know turn the TV off so you can have the internet than the TV bundle in the whole deal I always tell them you know that’s a lot but I am one of those weirdos and every single time I got the same response it’s what do you do what do you do with yourself I don’t understand what you do explain to them exactly what I did or whatever I’m not going to I’m not going to tell the poor girl at Time Warner one network to the other all right where we exactly where when you realize that when you got cut off but if I could bring us back to where to elaborate on and I was going to say the one I love about how you framed the distinction between the white and black magic Continuum is really about what the ad if I’m understanding correctly and I’ll kind of rephrase this is like the step-by-step would be the intention and then the call the intention is to do no harm and to do good or to do well or to heal or to manifest positivity or something of us open generate so positivity as he has the intention and then instead of instead of imposing your your sort of self-promoting self-aggrandizing or somehow that comes from what are you but I believe in a lot of that comes from Eco you know about asking and asking and away and also just trying to coddle it enter to she also harness it at the same time you know there’s a gentleness to it and also the black magic in the darker Arts I find it very demanding when they’re asking its atom and it’s a hey. I feel like a lot of it just comes from the ego you know it isn’t that is what I think is like I’m going to make this happen this is going to happen because I say I’m a powerfuel I I’m this powerful I’m blah blah blah you know when I when I come to my own personal power I let it speak to me I know that sounds corny and whatever but I do you know I left I let it talk to me I mean the other day I was brushing my teeth in the bathroom and I had a really really funny experience on the window is directly behind me and it looks up into these really beautiful trees and I was just brushing my teeth tonight I got whatever it was I didn’t really pay any trees with the branches coming up looks like basically he’s like Kevin Lee really amazing earth Spirits they just look like these pillars with these what their hands up into the air in the sun was coming through for me to be able to recognize that as I’m just one daily brushing my teeth and you know doing whatever to see something like that I think it’s really Spectacular Now and Then that led needs some thinking and then I’d like to writing and then that actually led to sort of I guess you’d call it a vegetable that I said last night I didn’t even really plan on doing on from just brushing my teeth looking up and being just being open and aware enough to accept things like this when when the earth is giving you something when a person or another being I don’t feel like there are coincidences with the black it’s like these definitive I guess like miles to basically justify and validate that your accessory is working does that make sense other assorted from distinction I’m thinking trying to access my normally very inefficient left brain I’m trying to figure out almost mathematical or algorithmic type of thinking to this mechanical or robotic but I think the juxtaposition of the news actually really quite wonderful I feel like magic can be an if-then type algorithm where you basically about what is an if-then a recipe is an algorithm in the algorithm is the recipe so there you have it so it’s the thing of it that way I’d say where we are on this graph for this this these branches that are coming out from a tree or a sort of thought bubble you know this series of steps and process uses that the the intention now I’m kind of seeing how the way to it’s not like it gets completely Amorphis because the intention could be to raise a million dollars for charity which which has elements of it that are are very parameterize do you know you have the not be a dollar amount you have the the sort of limiting factor that it be for a nonprofit organization for some charitable cause that you would hope will be auctioned charity than it would have some wedding on what its value is what is what is a specific charity and what do they do for people that Community whatever it is you know animals once again to that in ten and then your accountability and responsibility to that attention to that make sense so the intention let’s say if it was to save the polar bears you would focus on the help and try calling on not just got all that stuff you know put the energy out there throwing out a million tentacles at one time you’re not quite a fishing that but like you’re trying to zap and you’re trying to get an end open these channels up and try to reach other people I’m in spine that. Sort of tap into their goodness as well you know and end end it’s all I can kind of see what the intention is to save the polar bears do to do all the stuff of course you know you want to be able to hit this goals and that is obviously important but I think that the weight of it needs to go back to what the what the reason and why why you’re you’re why you’re doing this why you feel so strongly about it to me that’s more to me that’s more important you know cuz when it’s with all of that projection and all of that even when you’re when you’re putting that out there too I just I feel like it’s it’s just better all the way around energetically speaking we have it well yeah because you could ask for billing and maybe it cost you a hundred million and if you would have just said get the job done you would have been really really really specific cuz I have been many times when I’m sure it’s going to happen again because I really focused on the on X y&z now I know I was really really really sure let’s go forward a little bit and woe holyshit all this stuff wow okay this is this is incredible you know I’m just asking you know asking for things and not being afraid to ask so I got all these two I got all the pieces but I didn’t quite get them in the order I wanted them in right is that make you know what I mean weather at make the Joker’s like you had your prayers are answered but it’s distributed you know they are dropped but they’re broken in two packages across time and space you have to like hang on to that key that you found in the gutter for like 5 years in that door that you can’t open that you thought you should be able to the keys in your pocket it and then reveal their working towards towards something good it was in a different order or it was just not quite like I said I thought I was even more than I had to go back and look at my writing it look at and that’s my accountability in my responsibility to myself and University anyway I know I mean I know it’s a little tiny things but things has lasers with the order of the universe and that’s why I say you know I will always go back to accountability responsibility and intention and that has actually helped me with those actually put those into everyday use all the time in my life and it and it really really does Century because I’m always stand under them sesef creepy way but you know I just I want to be accountable for my actions for the things that come out of my mouth which is why I choose my words you know in my tone and my delivery very carefully you know I want to be responsible not just to myself but but two other people of the earth you know animals everything I want to be responsible to the magic I want to be responsible to people are saying that that I you know she’ll balance somewhere I don’t I don’t I never considered myself you know I just have to kind of go you hear it enough times from people you got to start looking into it you know and I’ve always been really humble about not just like my hair dressing as well and it’s cool to have been able to the Catalyst that field my inch extend a check and intent ra and yoga and just self-exploration with my mind body and spirit you know and it’s cool like I said what such an intimate exchange that I’m having with my clients in my relationships whether it’s been you know 6 months or 20 years I’ve been doing this 23 years and I literally get to practice my magic everyday all day not just when I’m at work it seems to be more concentrated when I’m at work because obviously you know that I protect myself every single day at work at 10 in the morning I’m up at like 5 or 6 I can’t just get up and go like I need to have a really slow the morning and and just spend some time with myself 3 years ago and she’s like I know it’s going to sound stupid but really she was telling me that I did a really good job and I was able to just walk away from it and not be angry and not be anything and you know if anything I felt that stunted and at their age they’re never going to really have the chance to kind of play another way and I think that it was because they didn’t want to be another way but but what I was saying was she wanted me to be aware of it and I was but I didn’t I didn’t see it through her eyes and never get to see each other selves exactly how other people see us and we never will you know and so she said you know you need to look at yourself in the mirror tonight for 30 seconds straight in the eyes and tell yourself thank you you’re a badass and you should have really fucking good job. Cutting salon or if I you know help somebody out that day or whatever I got a phone call from a client with her friends you know after we talk after we took whatever and they are thinking I have to be really humble you know I’m not passing out and I’m not handing out like free I don’t want I don’t like unsolicited advice you know it’s so one of the first things I do ask people not just with my work and I could be the hairdressing barbering star that could be counseling or are you know just just helping people with magic just keep it really clear it really really really really clear about what your intentions are. Yeah that really setting in and like I said not in a weird obsessive way but they put it really does make you rethink your reactions or even you know have not having a reaction to something is a reaction and I think a lot of us need to practice on a lot more you know not a not having a reaction to something even even possible yeah yeah and don’t keep it on Harrison into some fire you know I mean I try to walk that person away from the fire cuz I don’t know I just I think I truly believe that everybody deserves to be happy it starts with ourselves that it actually it’s that needing that wants to become a better man for myself or and it flows out if you and is infectious you know toddlers but I really do believe it has to be that first and foremost thing you said it’s important to note that says in this some kind of an outline here it is said your ability to stay accountable really if we if we look zoom into that word we’re talking about accounting it brings to mind the notion of a ledger and unassertive bookkeeping and so the bookkeeping is your book of spells so if you if you crave cast that magic spell and you do you set your intention and then you you see that it might be going walk or something but you have the ability to go back to that date and you do it on a spicious days of the calendar so that you can know where to where to go back to it are you confusing software you can search for it but to be able to if you if you just you just verbalize it you may not remember which I constantly have so many different books and actually you know I have one that’s kind of a general one that I’m constantly have about three or four that I’m kind of working at one time always you know one of them is for my partner and I specifically for both of us you know one of them is kind of a general one one is from me and my interactions with yellow lines notebook pads you know like the legal ones and so I just write down a lot of stuff I’m not a writer I just I just ride a lot of things down your bullet point things to make things all kinds of stuff you know you you can you already know or you trying to collect what that smell is what that ritual is what you’re trying to do put it all down and then once once you actually do everything you can either form at it before you know if you want a bullet point the different steps that you want to do like I say if you’re doing a spell the ritual that you created for yourself I think that’s completely fine you want to give things objects meanings you want to you know do it do I’m all for that you know I don’t care what it is you use I like to use a combination of different things that I’ve collected throughout the years symbolize different stuff for me and also I like to use a lot of different crystals in a lot of different God where we going with this I’m so sorry Vizio creating your own ritual is what I was saying there we go and just put a little bit of the power of writing it down so you can go back and check on it and might get the answer you could actually addressed it you know you could be right in a mandarin constitutional freedoms and yeah right down all the stuff cuz I actually do have a cooking diary that I do cuz I like to call so and so I take notes of every single thing that I do and it’s also just really good to go back and review or you know even just to kind of go back and read these books and see you know it’s a really interesting way to tell my own story to myself you know no one really gets to look at these except you know every now and then my I’ll show my boyfriend are you know maybe I’ll show up page or something or two or you know whatever it is I share a lot with him the one that I have I’m supposed to mean I was just really cool Connection in the synchronicities that we have together having said that I’ll come right down and write down your rituals in your spells you know if you eat your your journey as a magician really I mean we do this weekend with our card since you know so it’s basically keeping sort of your own it’s kind of like a journal in a report card and a bunch of other things all thrown in together you know and then again I think it’s just an interesting way of contacting some books that are like 15 years old has moved back to the city of December to write thank you notes bass like it’s all me I can all you know I can see and I can feel that it’s all me but just to watch the evolution of but just the awareness and the openness because I really really really might my 30s for me were about being really open and I thought I was open and I wasn’t certain ways but I was so closed off and scared and invulnerable most mostly on a sort of an emotional level would certain Dynamics and I just was like fuck it you know this I really really really want to know what this is like I want to know what that’s like I want to know what it’s like to really still open and so I had to learn that the process of letting go look at myself as a work in progress as we all are letting letting go was like one of my biggest lessons in keeping things simple Letting Go being present I’m old I don’t take anything personally and I used to take as I was a fucking crazy ass young double Scorpio and pass shit and I I just would be exhausted and I didn’t have time for myself so I had that was another thing that actually made me focus on myself and go okay this is going back to I have to be able to take to help myself and I can’t I can’t complete all of my energy and all of everything that I have two other people all the time you know if there’s a limit there’s a limit that I can get especially like in a work setting are in a social setting is for a social and I am actually quite an introvert I really prefer just like mellow chill kind of stuff you know I was going to say just one that I would like everyone to try to practice is to just really not take anything really personally because ultimately you know I am the only person who’s responsible for my own feelings whatever they are it is a matter of somebody says something to you that’s true or not or whatever it is I get to choose how I feel about everything absolutely that’s one of the Four Agreements Don Miguel Ruiz Four Agreements don’t take things to do your best dentist that take things personally and celebration I have for you so I think this was a good intro and I think too kind of I’d like to just give you one more sort of topic to explore for now and then we can leave it also is a bit of a cliffhanger we can come back I think there’s a lot of stuff more to unpack future episodes so I think that would be good to just have to have this be the very beginning intro kind of introduction to to your pear diamond and I appreciate this is a gold mine this is that I feel like you’re this is such a like I found the end of the rainbow here this is this treasure all about is is beyond I don’t even have words for it I mean I listen to your podcast for a really long time you know any what you know and then we ended up messaging somewhere along the line and I’m just saying is that I’m very thankful that I got to connect with you just just even sending you a note that one time or whatever it’s just all these things that we’ve had I’ve always enjoyed them seriously thank you I mean I know and I can I listen to your show and I know the time of people that you have on all the time for me to be part of this I mean even just one time is is really cool for me to be able to share this stuff with you with you and and everyone who listens to you so I just want to say thanks again I’m super super green food you’re welcome and thank you and if they have mutual honor him and blessing and I would say yeah the thing that’s on my mind for you know something soon to refund a bit now before we close for this this first episode we something that is the sort of throws a monkey wrench into the the very elegant logic that we have worked together here to kind of layout in Spanish of the sizes is what I would I have explored is is sort of the how to be accountable and responsible and ethical with the desire to pursue or seduce someone in the how that well you were sexually stimulating yourself and fantasizing about a sexual outcome with a potential partner that there is like for me I have a sort of framework work checklist where where I do want to have some clear intention in and released released that monitor my vibration around the energy and certainly of the conduct my own conduct in the Fantasy Realm because it is I believe a a a karmic casino to be fantasizing sexually and so you got to be with what are your thoughts on that can be it’s murky territory when we look at what’s the difference between it all that well the grace World of Magic here so we have please take away about what the intention as you know see if you see incredible person whether that be attached that’s that’s usually the person you want to buy what is the most important question is he this and it hit me the right way whatever it is you know like I said that’s really really ask yourself why practice is a bunch a lot of different things are where they are on a spiritual level you know versus someone who isn’t that all I mean to did you did you have liked it with your question were you thinking more about someone who is more open and spiritually aware or in touch with you know themselves and everything around them or are you speaking of just sort of like more social let me have I guess I’ll share with you a little bit of a little bit of intimate details about how I solely what year is this to me I feel like this I very very rarely use pornography of any kind as the visual aid or stimulant for myself because you know when I was a lot younger and a lot hornier and a lot less sophisticated spiritually I would say if I dare say then he was just fodder but the thing is what I and I was also jaculating constantly without any so and that was because of the Paradigm that that I was them at that that area of acid images of human consciousness in the West the surface ship that we’ve talked about before it right so that said to me that what I like what I know now if I would have known then what I know now I would have said to myself to have a practice more like what I have now wishes to Safeway when I fantasize about a future sexual encounter it really has got to actually in my mind be a very plausible realistic potential outcome with someone who is it is accessible by some believe with me and so I’m not really jerking off to dead people and I only brought enough to movie stars and people who unless I really really believe that what I want to do is structure my destiny to encounter them and have us have a mutual Very sensual erotic Mutual exchange I don’t really waste my Prada I don’t waste my see that as my Jing I’m not going to spill my seed in where to put a spell that has really no it’s not really a meritorious or whatever the word will be it doesn’t really it’s not part of my destiny so and this is just me kind of putting my thoughts into the into the original question for Texas is that I feel like the I would either they’re up there are people there are always a list of people who I’m attracted to in my life who are in weed ovarian degrees of proximity to me and in Space the time I suppose but maybe hey sup maybe some of them are are in committed monogamous relationships and therefore I’m also risking the the karmic consequences of of like astral home-wrecking by have a responsibility in that situation is just about being responsible on a sexual and a spiritual and in a personal level and in on a friendship level if that’s where it is too you know I mean I I’ve had experiences with other with other people before and even if it’s going to be a one-time thing from for me or for us or for whatever it is I’m very clear with one wants if that makes sense I don’t just let somebody why don’t open the door. Not physically but you know what I mean just open open the door and let them walk in and when wander around you know I’d I’d like to say okay look you know I am and I’m really really Frank here I have told you guys before it’s like look you know in my mind I’m going okay I know this is probably be like a one-time thing doesn’t happen all that often or it happened all that often but I would say with hey look I’m not looking for pornsex I’m not looking to get off like I want to actually have sex with an nnn if you don’t know what that means you know really that I can cut if you’re willing if you’re willing I can kind of show you a different way of going out this an interesting really super clear that’s where that double fucking Scorpio comes in you know I just I can’t lie and I’m very very very direct and I will say that in my experience I have it’s been it’s been really fine with that and sometimes it’s been really great or like let’s say you know you end up meeting somebody and there’s a connection there’s a little bit of a friendship and then it goes there sexually and then you realize that’s okay I don’t want to be in a committed thing with you or I’m not you know any in a space where I could be in a relationship whether you want to or not that’s just you know what it is to be able to be emotionally irresponsible not to yourself and accountability to the other person as well and yourself I want to have a really good hopefully intense on whatever level sexual experience with somebody that’s problem with most men is that most people I would say in general but they’re just so used to getting off by using corn by using this by using whatever and I just I feel like it when you get it really really really in tune with yourself you’re going back to say it with what you were saying like I just don’t want to spill my seed and then wasted I I feel the same way but at the same time like there have been several times were the sex that I have with my boyfriend my actual partner is incredible and it just keeps getting better and better and better and sometimes I mean we don’t set out for this but like it will end up coming like six times over you know some hours or whatever it is and it’s like holyfuck like Jesus Christ and then you know it’s almost like that sort of Monex states where you just had sex had nowhere you everything just is talking to you the leaves it wasn’t just getting off you guys were able to connect on levels where you really took each other separately and together to other places I mean this I have had some experience with this man his name is Johnny Ray he’s he’s really seriously the best person I’ve ever been with I’ve never been with anybody like him he has experience in the matter with him have been just utterly mind-blowingly shocking in a really good way swear he’s actually aided me in seeing certain things while doing sex magick and while doing some other stuff like that I’d like that I actually saw even though my eyes were closed I saw these things I went places you know really interesting and I took a long time to kind of develop but like I I I don’t know I I find again I just think that like you don’t you just say you have to really be responsible but it do whatever is right for you is what I’m saying like I said if if you’re if you’re in a situation where if it feels right that that you’re going to come again then go for it you know if you can try that you don’t try to do all that cuz that’s because it makes the experience more intense and there’s so much more than just like I said then getting off you know another program to do and and there are a lot of times to ejaculate at all and still have an equally razee go to experience you know a lot of full body in touch with your actual magic right there you know well I think on that note I don’t think we could end on a better a better note in a better place to conclude I think that really is a great a great introduction and this is this smoking hot material and I can’t wait to to keep exploring I’m more of this and zooming into various aspects so for now we’ll see it are there any specific ways that you would like listen this to reach out to you how can I go get a nice haircut it’s the same it’s Mike Bonner hair so m i k e b o n n e r and then hair hair at gmail.com on Instagram I do tarot readings to I don’t claim the psychic I’m not really really really try to connect with people on listen to them that’s what I try to do this first and foremost well I got to say it has been an absolute treat and Prejudice is like such a bicycle synchronistic to be able to just have this Pockets out there than have it find people and then and then all the sudden we’re we’re already talking when you’re adding a lot to to this this archive this is sort of the akashic record that I’m not curious to hear so thank you so much again and I look forward to next time I will yeah everybody have sweet and sweet dreams and a good prayers and magic spells and we will help keep each other accountable and responsible and also remember that intention with everything just intense so important did all right all right I will take you with you Google talk to you so I would actually like to share and I now just thinking of it I have an example of a personal and almost perfect example of a white magick manifestation which will then I’ll create a ritual around this that’ll be done free for a year basically starts in November that’s the the month I was born and so for me not on the same calendar as everybody else when they do their resolutions and all that kind of stuff you know in January I mean frankly it just doesn’t mean anything to me November my birth my own personal earlier anyhow having said that I have been working on just trying to manifest and think about him focused a lot of energy on what I want out of this coming year and sometimes it happens before November sometimes it happens during and and this time it took a couple months and so anyhow I woke up yesterday morning and the first thing on my mind was what I heard was this is just the beginning and I have I just move back to LA from being out in the deserts the high desert in Southern California for the last two years I needed a break from everything the city in and then what not and are all the noise and everything that comes and goes around it that clutters us up so I went out to the desert and a long story short I really needed to clear a lot of things Within Myself And also physically all that all my environment you know that is so beautiful and quiet and pretty desolate out there but it’s booming with life you know you sit there for just start looking and listening and you can just literally see everything breathing, there is a lot of movement actually I’m in that Stillness so when I had woke up yesterday that that raise this is just the beginning was really really strong in my head and the next one was come to life on my desk and just wrote what was coming out so and manifestation for the year which is so cool how that happened yeah I was I was actually kind of Blown Away by it at the end of it just because I felt like I’d gotten such a good I don’t know I guess I connected with a part of myself and I really listened to to to whatever it is or whatever they were trying to say to me in an hour or whether it was part of me as well I don’t know the point is that it’s I feel really really great and humbled that it came out so I’m just going to read you what what this sort of white magick manifestation isn’t this is just the beginning come to life it is the real you that speaks through your rebellious Sacred Heart in this living your life not the monkey mind the mind is not much more than a swirling canopy of Habitual reactions your monkey mind is not to run the show at the moment it might have a lot to say and at times it seems very convincing but it’s not the one in charge remember are three different brands one that had drained brain scuse me the mines brain which I like to also call once again the Periscope with the feeding tube attached that brain is responsible for logic and reason number two are other brain is the heart the heart brain you know the heart responsible for our emotions the death of things and our reactions to things I believe is Our God’s are intuition brain I believe it’s also very Primal and Saul so it didn’t stink you know I’m going to focus on the hearts and intuition brain and remember to the monkey brain rest gets us into trouble and the additional thoughts and creative and energetic Awakening is happening it is so far beyond what the mind is now capable of controlling others might not like it because it means change coming to life tends to do that however it is now and the only real choice I have to make is how to deal with it coming to life means feeling treating the space and just doing it don’t hold back and this process I will uncover the Artistry of the universal Creator and creators I will honor the sacredness of Life by exploring it without restraint and that includes the flow of my feelings I don’t have to do anything with them other than Express them learning how to access feeling allows you to learn how to access intuition creative inspiration and internal guidance I have chosen to come into a body and live consciously within it even in times of pain know and trust that there will be also ecstasy and Bliss as the process of healing and Awakening continues the message is be alive there’s no going back no falling into old ways I have crossed the threshold from an old way of being in an old life and try as I might I cannot return besides it won’t be the same as it used to griever celebrate do both move on there’s a new adventure awaiting me now and I want even deeper connection to my own instincts my body feelings intuition magic and everything I will trust and embrace it and it will trust and embrace me in return. 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Surviving the Hyper-Regulation of the Internet with Adult Industry Attorney Corey D. Silverstein TPP182

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In this episode I’m joined again by leading adult industry attorney Corey D. Silverstein. He’s an outspoken advocate for free speech, creative freedom, and sexual expression.  He graciously took time out of his busy schedule to bless us with some critical updates and advice. We cover several of the most pressing regulatory issues, both domestically and internationally, that are changing the game of compliance for website owners and operators in the adult industry and beyond.

This episode builds on our two previous podcasts which are definitely prerequisites to fully appreciate the depth of wisdom Corey has cultivated over a nearly 15 year practice:

https://tantrapunk.com/attorney-corey-d-silverstein-discusses-some-best-practices-for-porn-production-tpp123/

https://tantrapunk.com/the-evolution-of-crypto-with-adult-industry-attorney-corey-d-silverstein-tpp138/

About Corey:

Corey D. Silverstein is the managing and founding member of the Law Offices of Corey D. Silverstein, P.C d/b/a/ Silverstein Legal.  His practice focuses on representing many areas of the law that impact the adult industry.  His clientele includes hosting companies, affiliate programs, content producers, payment processors, website operators, dating websites, webcam sites, traffic brokers, social media websites and performers, just to name a few.  Mr. Silverstein regularly provides legal services related to: age verification and record keeping requirements (18 USC 2257), intellectual property (copyrights and trademarks), the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, the Restore Online Shopper’s Confidence Act (ROSCA), Federal Trade Commission (FTC) compliance, first amendment / free speech, obscenity, corporate law, criminal defense, internet law, domain disputes and various other areas of the law.  Mr. Silverstein is an acclaimed litigator and dispute resolution specialist. His practice also concentrates on complex contracts, business structure, and business formation.  Mr. Silverstein prides himself in providing prompt and aggressive representation tailored to each of his clients’ individual needs.  Mr. Silverstein is regularly featured in adult industry periodicals such as AVN and XBIZ and has been quoted and published in mainstream media including the New York Times, FOX News, MSNBC, the Miami Herald, the Washington Post, the Detroit News and the Associated Press.  Mr. Silverstein is also a regular speaker at conferences throughout the world (United States, Canada, Colombia, Netherlands) and has made countless presentations related to topics and issues that affect the adult industry and online marketplace.  Amongst his numerous professional affiliations, Mr. Silverstein is a member of the First Amendment Lawyers Association (FALA). Myadultattorney.com is a website dedicated to the representation of adult industry clientele. Mr. Silverstein can be reached through Myadultattorney.com or by email at corey@myadultattorney.com. Mr. Silverstein can also be contacted by telephone at 248-290-0655.

Here’s an outline of topics and sentiments we discussed:

  • fosta/sesta
  • the fate of backpage.com
  • the constitutional challenge to fosta
  • blackballing, chilling effects of fosta/sesta
  • tumblr dumps adult
  • the crack down on social media for certain words, images
  • opportunities for decentralized crypto based market share
  • reminder of the”black curtain” days of video stores where it felt embarrassing to access adult content
  • civil litigation pretty stagnant in adult industry
  • current administration’s lack of obscenity prosecution
  • GDPR why it exists, and how difficult it is to implement
  • how major regulation has been long time coming
  • but website owners have haven’t prioritized preparing for it
  • the need to seek professional advice
  • Silverstein legal provides advice on how to be compliant
  • people not taking GDPR seriously enough
  • constant high level data breaches in the news
  • big fines are coming for GDPR violations
  • the failure of industries to self regulate brought this on
  • Chicago tribute geo blocking GDPR countries
  • updating privacy policy is not enough
  • California coming out with similar privacy/data protection law
  • pressure on the US federal govt to create its own version of GDPR
  • it’s not gonna get better, it’s gonna get worse
  • you need to have a professional review you privacy protection policies from the ground up
  • ransomware insurance
  • Corey’s been warning for many years about the need to get more serious about anti-sex trafficking and child protection measures for online businesses
  • 2257 didn’t come out of thin air, it came out because the adult industry failed to self-regulate
  • the weaknesses of virtual private networks (VPNs)
  • how there’s really no such thing as complete anonymity online
  • their motto: don’t wait til it’s too late
  • how the 2257 battle has been going on over 10 years
  • recently a judge has indicated a large portion to be unconstitutional
  • stay tuned, keep waiting keep watching, keep complying
  • 2257 reform will not be an overnight thing
  • there’s a lot of litigation to go
  • for the time being,  it would be a lot more difficult for the government to pursue 2257 violation, but the advice is that you still you have to be prepared to comply
  • New Hampshire and The Free State Project
  • The hopeful but not certain future of sex work decriminalization in NH
  • we all hope that a little less conservatism in this country would be a good thing for all
  • beyond the lawyer jokes, attorneys are there to assist with the right information so you can make the right decisions
  • people need to start going to more reliable sources from experts
  • people need to ask questions to the experts if you’re in high risk businesses
  • spend the time to educate yourself on the laws and regulations
  • meet and consult with Corey at the Xbiz show 2019
  • Rooftop Rager party sponsored by Mojo Host and Silverstein Legal

How Female Masturbation and Orgasms are Saving the World Soul with Kit Murray Maloney TPP178

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In this episode I’m joined by Kit Murray Maloney, an outspoken orgasmic organizer who’s been working and playing hard to start a proud self-pleasuring revolution among women. While male masturbation is taken for granted and catered to by the mainstream culture, female pleasure is still in many ways in the dark ages. Kit shares about her great work to re-enlighten humanity about the potential for healing, empowerment, pleasure, fun, relaxation, and more with female masturbation and orgasm.

She’s established a movement around the Pleasure Pledge where women commit to pleasure themselves thoroughly for 3 weeks straight, to learn more please go here: https://www.thepleasurepledge.com/

We discuss the need for thoughtful user experiences with online porn and her efforts to curate a more refined adult entertainment selection. We also commiserate on the need for shamanic pornography to become a thing so we can show religious pornophobes how sacred sexuality is to be respected rather than feared.

Please visit her main website here:
https://www.oactually.com/

About Kit:

Kit Murray Maloney is driven by her core belief that a celebration of women’s sexual pleasure, including female orgasms, will heal and better the world.

For the last two decades Kit’s been an activist, academic, and entrepreneur committed to channeling her passion for gender equity into a celebration of women’s sexual pleasure. She’s earned a Masters degree in Gender and Social Policy from the London School of Economics and has been featured in Marie Claire, Self, and Glamour magazines.

Kit launched O’actually as a multi-media platform for open and honest dialogue to release taboo of women’s self pleasure and to promote beautiful erotic work made by women for women. Kit is also the founder of The Pleasure Pledge, a free 21 day program inviting women to celebrate there daily orgasm.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 17089 being joined by Kid Marie Maloney who is the founder of oh actually and the pleasure pledge and she is a deep believer in celebrating women sexual pleasure and yeah please kid we haven’t had an extensive background of each other so please enlighten me tell me all about your beautiful wonderful self and how it is that you got involved in the sexuality sex positive and Liberation kind of movement wonderful friend thank you thank you for creating a space of the podcast and four and having me on it and I am yeah as you mentioned I am the founder of actually which is a space that is committed to engaging in the sphere of adults entertainment with intent around bringing some more openness and honesty and to that realm so that we can receive more pleasure and really lift out of some of the shadows and taboos that I believe are are cementing Us in real blocks around Shane and sexuality and so actually is really a space around that entry and celebration looking at something like foreign adults entertainment and moving beyond our assumptions that we might have and the taboo that we might carry and go in list and openness around what might be possible when we relieve some of the tension around the top who even within the realm of sexuality specifically in the round with sexuality and then the pleasure of that is a space to celebrate women sexual pleasure and it is a 21-day invitation to remember to celebrate their daily orgasm and there’s lots of support through that with daily invitations that offer women away to further nurture on and prioritize and enjoy their selves as orgasmic features and an experienced extremely wonderful and I can see I can I do this should be what the Surgeon General is getting behind to promote this I don’t know if you remember there was a time when there was a female search General who was fired for suggesting essentially that masturbation will be a great form of a defense against HIV spreaded believe that was what happened but women solo sax or masturbation is something that still trade such tremendous and yet I stand for it being this incredible healing power and so it is such a it’s a tragedy to me that we take this beautiful resource that we all have within ourselves and shouted it and a lot of misunderstanding and Tabu and so the pleasure pleasure is such a beautiful face of our whole system is set up to receive is there and if women shoes they can decide to bring Partners into that experience and there are times in our life where we can also choose to have that entire experience all in our own systems has she just thought it would be an interesting blog post many years ago girlfriends about understanding that they would instead it was a beautiful beautiful and honoring through there and free of celebrated in community of sister head and from that unlocked a much wider and even more richer program an offering to the world of the Worlds talking about it’s coming up on February 1st 2000 some okay so I’m this is his if it says your your gift to the world it sounds like you were you were on a mission to do the sort of meme me medic Alchemy Alchemy to get a movement in motion and action is so I imagine you’re doing Outreach in I’m just curious what is the what’s the strategy and what is the sort of scope of your of your aspirations for this cuz I believe it it really can and should go far and wide so yeah I’m excited to hear about what’s going on behind the scenes first question and this is the first year where I’ve decided that the pleasure pledge deserves her own space so she’s going on and I realized over years of running both of actually on the pleasure pledge simultaneously that there are definitely overlaps particularly because I am the founder of both and so my stamps for women’s safety of their safety within themselves safety of their sexual experiences and as well as their healing is a thread that has been part of my work for 99 and lifetime I believe and so it feels nice to to give the pleasure patch this new space to thrive and we are inviting more awareness through our conversations like this social media brand Partnerships as well and it’s really my belief that an orgasm orgasm solo sex is something that is a key ingredient to women’s holistic vitality and so I see this as a space that is very much based on sexuality but honoring sexuality is a key component to our house and so I think that there are ways to open up this conversation that really reached my way of like oh yeah but just as you say it like this should be something that like the health department is like no side effects better sleep and wildly wonderful and positive potentials that’s my job that’s so cool yeah you know it reminds me throughout the years of just being a sex geek and whatnot I do recall it might have been a documentary or somewhere where I saw that there are there are countries in the world where literally it is their government agencies and offices that that hand out pamphlets about masturbation and how to do everything you would you would you would hope that our government pay course it’s it’s a it’s not it’s not trashy it’s not really you know over the top as far as being provocative it’s just like like a first aid manual her like acne treatment manual or something exactly awesome so please if you would please tell me more about just your personal how did you come up with this idea what I love the story and I love to hear more about the other your other the sort of the inaugural test study subjects that you worked with in the beginning and get some other stories of how they experienced it but I was curious to go back further in your life history with your what was missing in what was wrong and what didn’t provide you this you know out of the gate so that she had to develop it like what’s your sort of story of heroism around that yeah so I trying to decide how far back to go so I was as a teenager what kind of Fancy Pants all girls private school in Boston and everything for the eight years that we were there was still didn’t us about going to college and getting into the best possible, and yet there was no training or no conversation around what college would be like and I’m dating myself here but it was a late one day decided I’m actually going to go on to it wasn’t Google it was like or something and start searching about what the college experience sexual assault and I was 17 and horrified and terrified and I look back at that seventeen-year-old girl and I’m really impressed that she was able to be as conscientious as because I was two teachers and adults at the time and brought them needs to tistics and was told that I was I shouldn’t worry about it I was there was no conversation actually I have this beautiful experience where an aunt of mine took me out to lunch and the summer before I was to go to college and she’s basically just sat me down and was like kids who are scared to go to college and I told her as well as I was with her guidance that I stepped onto my college campus aware of the groups that were already set up to address issues of sexual violence on campus and raise my hands to participate in them and so pretty quickly I was leading them and growing them and engaged in administrative and policy changes and it really was making identifying key component of my college experience and so as you can imagine it was incredibly powerful in some ways because I was able to effect change fan belt community and be part of community and the other signs it was incredibly taunting and why on Earth was I as a 21 year old given this responsibility with my friends to be riding so that I done went and got my Master’s and gender and social policy in London at the London School of economics and was really against sexual violence in the world I smile not because I think that is a lofty goal is mad because that is so clear to me as like what my mission in the world has always been since I was younger and kind of the foreshadowing I had not process my own sexual trauma yet and so I stepped away from the work for a couple of years and did some other activities and then I in 2012 I want to go back into making the world a better place for women I want to have it’s always going to drive to me to be focused on women sexuality and could I navigate this through a focus of pleasure and that was really the impetus it started oh actually was could we talk about Up Entertainment so we could be released taboo around pleasure as a way of honoring what the world might look like if there wasn’t any more and then I do believe that when we heal ourselves we will have that celebrates and honors women’s bodies in them and sexuality in women’s pleasure and orgasmic potential and I am all for it so that was how I started on February 2019 be the fifth annual public butter fudge does not hundreds of thousands millions of a saying in February that for this 21 days are going to focus on ourselves are flygare healing and growth and expansion in our lives in the world beautiful as so I’m assuming also that that’s correctly that span of time if everyone is basically synchronizing on that pledge then that would be a huge marketing opportunity for companies than brands of products that are already doing Valentine’s Day campaign so if you don’t want to be a douche boyfriend you should buy vibrators so you know that are for pleasure pledge and you should learn how to be an assistant and you should step up in that way and actually I mean I will be beautiful I could just imagine that a pleasure pledge gift kind of Kit grab bag company information face and celebratory products and I love it too because it’s this really special time in a year where January closes and we step into February and I don’t know about you but the release of a January guilty intense that’s amazing well thank you for that actually I thought it would be funny at one point to do like a synchronized masturbation every twice a day depending on if your morning person but at 6:09 a.m. and 6:09 p.m. everyone should be either doing that if they have the luxury or at least pleasuring themselves and in I think we will shift like the axis of the earth a week yeah if I resend some measurable synchronized meditations and prayers and just light up the whole planet as we all know how beautiful it is to collectively meditate our minds at meditation are in such an orgasm as as such as some water and Shirley healing because you’re bringing that high high frequency of pleasure and joy into your whole system very well said yes I totally agree and I like to step back a couple of little bit into where you had been doing the activism around you know I like to call a sexual self defense that kind of covers a lot of a lot of FM Beyond just street fighting and mugging what not there’s there’s a whole Continuum there’s a whole Arc of violence that can be interrupted earlier with different forms and strategy so I’m a b I’m really into that that’s the old as well and in in appreciate that that you have been working on east campus safety in & Beyond and then something that comes to mind something that comes to mind is that a friend of mine also in the field not too long ago was sharing with me that this notion that female orgasm is can be can become so Elusive and so difficult to induce for for this one factor that she mentioned among many factors are one of it was that I guess there’s new Neuroscience coming out that’s pointing to that they’re being a part of the brain that if you don’t feel fully safe and fully relaxed you pretty much can’t you eat you would need to feel physically safe to Stew for the orgasmic energy orgasmic triggering an energy and all of that that whole chemical cocktail and that whole electrical storm to really take place if it’s like an inhibited when there is a sense of of a lack of safety for the most part of course there are people who would they get they get off on on on different fetishes and you know that there’s different different ways to look at that yeah this is so very happy that you brought this up because I just want to clarify to like a couple of things that are happening within that like in general this notion women needing to feel safe in order to receive and enjoy pleasure just and she would have thought of fact I think right and so that is wonderful where that can go a little bit wonky at fast is Ever Getting It confused or taking that pendulum swing a little bit too far if you will so that it implies that victims of violence who did receive bodily pleasure during their assault are somehow not telling the truth about the lack of consent in that hasn’t sat in case any listener is feeling concerned about what surrounding getting any sort of bodily pleasure certainly beautiful provided us with which is that ease of access to orgasm is going to be first created within a container of safety answer that is always what we want to be going for an and committed to and that isn’t a beautiful that orgasm is that much more accessible different statuses fetishes might not have that container of safety they might be perceived but usually fetish groups actually have a much stronger containers then we might and so if you’re saying to somebody I want to experience is going to be tightened through a through the app and your XYZ is something that may or may not be taboo and may or may not be in, but what you’re actually asking for it and therefore you’re presenting yourself in a container safety hope that makes sense. I totally concur with you about the safety of the container around fetish The Fetish community and I was taking on a pretty deep journey within the upper echelons of it at one in one chapter of my life and I mean cuz it’s always been somewhere throughout my life but I got to actually live in SM dumb and got his Temple for about a year and till I was exposed to a lot of things that people have kids but but it was there that I really got to to develop a high respect for containers with in containers in and you can feel safe to be made slightly on safe and that can be how it all works but everybody’s different but I just see appreciate also being able to talk about this stuff and then and open a space up for it so you actually when you say adult entertainment are you you’re talking about about pouring about I was it is nuanced and complex like all of life certainly all sexuality as far as my understanding of it is and so I know actually it’s a highly curated selection and some of the filmmakers don’t use entertainment honor the hall I Hazard a umbrella term and and it can be spokes of erotica or torn or anything else but this guy I am I think you know we have goodness me I am particularly like in this moment today I had some very angry comments friend to see all the pain and hurt as a woman who follows around what it means to step into engagement around pornography and I think for me one of the things we spend most reassuring about this face as that it counter-intuitively has really reminded me of all of our humanity and also how important it is to create dialogue around things that we supposed to be unwilling and a lot of women do to this really new porn video porn wildly accessible very very influential and and so to leave it on its own in the shadows seems so not okay to me and it is it’s over it’s turned into this real conviction of like let’s talk about it and let’s talk about what we think is okay and not okay and is it in planting Aspen what’s the difference between fantasy and our relationship to our practices of solo sax versus our expectations and desires for real world sex and are we navigate to overlap and the distance between those places and how can we start to see differences as well as commonalities and how we use to measure I’m also in that space and so it’s it’s refreshing to hear more purposeful and in passion-driven visioneering in that space for sure in as and I agree it’s also it’s with rapidly shifting a lot of things and it could be it could be for the best or for the worst or or probably a bit of both but I’m yeah something that I’m curious about is how are you integrating are you out how does it integrate with your projects is this something that you have like a cute you were curating content that you suggest to folks to use for their the pleasuring enhancement purposes is there like a sum of a studio or you producing independent content or how does it all work with your pleasure actually right now my insurance is that we have provided a safe and beautiful directory and guy for you to choose what type of that offense of Human Experience you’d like to have in that moment so lately and then you are directed to the makers to we have with folks that I talked with people that we’ve done really promote people’s work who is Open Nest an honest man Honest Tea around sexuality and I actually have also included because I realized in a lot of inner dialogue with myself are some sites that are some types that are good for us to take around other people’s enjoyment and other people’s practice says around their sexuality is a paternalistic and unhelpful and probably found Saul particularly keeping in mind how women your sexuality with so many of the pornographic sites out there are so our goal is to have that introduction feel like more of a dipping the toe in the water than being a shots the I thank you for doing that in a really is it makes me think of what you’re providing is almost like a a condom before your eyes for your soul so going on the mental industry is pretty much driven by ad revenue from free content now so I mean free content being posted on website posted on websites that that are just riddled with potentially malware scripts and the pop ups and in all kinds of manipulative marketing strategies to get you to to to rig your dopamine cycle ratchet up so that you’re you’re being sort of like you said pushed and you know what I’d say push towards more extreme the rapidly extremely hyper rapid acceleration from really mild material that you’re trying to maybe look for something specific but then it it’s they know what you’re doing they have patterns and rhythms in its mass and they’re just driving you pushing you often towards some stuff that’s going to be traumatic ultimately it tends to lead in those directions so if we could be creating a portal or accurate experience where there’s some guard rails and a little bit of at least hopefully some warning signs or something where you know I would be helpful and for not to be predatory as a visit as a marketing experience in general you know for it to be something for her if I want to get aroused I’d like to have liked it you know romantic like candle light dinner Ambiance of an experience of consuming the media and not be in like this thing you know if the lake I just ran over that like a lot from of actually and I just think if we ingest provides that you know a candle or two before you get there because there’s also really awesome really beautiful but I just for me and for a lot of the people that I’ve talked to you it’s a really nice thing to just have a little bit more of a guide in a little bit more of a sense that you are at the Hound yourself to what what material you want to consume rather than feel as you say either pushed or like you are not in control of what is going to be awesome Oso if you were to be let’s see speaking to a an audience of adult content producers what what are you hoping will be some of the new new trends what what can be done to his they’re always innovating and they always want to be on top of the next the next whatever so if you curious like if you if you if you could be a designer producer-director just with your words just imagining that people listen to this might be in the process of wanted to create content that would be acceptable in and embraced on your platform it really again goes back to what is your intent and around joking mean hats and getting people to more and more extreme versions of pornography usually ends in the intent to make money because usually the end goal is that there’s been enough of a her to get somebody into a paid membership site and that taste of torn I believe has a very different CEO and a very different than many of the other works its way out there to celebrate women’s orgasms to create something that is bringing additional levels of beauty to The World’s End so in speaking with sound anchors we have our biggest category on the site is celebrating female cell makers end in talking with them before reaching them on the site I really get a sense of what is their poor intention and the ones that are on Sauron oh actually are folks you have beautifully articulated that to me as really adding value of an expression to erotica wanting to be part of the worlds that erotic humans can be celebrated and a genuine had an inspiring healing way so that he turned up sell you to something else so that we can make it. Is that the court intent of people’s mission in terms of making it so I would also say I guess I wouldn’t let them more of us who are willing to celebrate erotic an x-rated content and engage with it and create it and it might look like to have more women behind a camera more people of color buying puts a smile on my face so I would want everybody to talk to Healing centered person too and by all means that’s also will actually have something that I might submit off to you for two that towards that end yeah and this is certainly the vibe that I’m that I’m on and I’m hoping to I’m hoping to find others already established in the industry and those who are outside of the industry and maybe haven’t considered it as a as a of a vector for for extreme positivity and extreme transformation because so many people are glued to the the the sort of stream of content that one little drop of something hewing in there could have a massive ripple effect in this this pain of human consciousness so I feel like my calls to action is for shamanic pornography to be a thing that that would be very Redemptive for all the witches who were burned because in all of the tantric group sexuality things that were against the irony that that I feel in my heart around the this it’s like okay if I was speaking to the pope right now I would say you and your henchmen have spent hundreds of years demonizing everything having to do with self-pleasure and with lesbianism homosexuality group sexuality and all forms of mysticism witchcraft sexual magical ritual and then all the sudden just basically in the last few decades the the legal landscape has opened up to allow for the some of the most what will you would consider to be sinful content to be produced and now it’s like the the consequences of all those centuries of repression are being expressed in these type super violence super non-consensual addictive or habit forming in there with a woodsy is 4M even Pat Robertson said demonic demons can be can be basically transmitted through washing a video on a screen and the information on a prospective you can understand how that’s possible by changing your vibration and in allowing in things that will give you a spiritual cold and yeah they stop by so it’s I feel like the the wisdom of Elders in which isn’t shamans coming in and saying at 6 will abuse and Trauma can be healed sexual abusers can be healed and Jen and redeemed through this stuff and so why is it that was dominating all of this content is stuff that is like I’m so flippantly I just can’t get over the irony you know so library of shamanic pornography and I really think that this like he’s hit on so many are convincing us that there is some houses and pushing the stuff more and more and more and more into arbitrary regulation and that is not rooted and you know one of my like it’s a little bit snarky of me I will process that but one of my favorites is guess what state in the United States consumes the most pornography the Utah go Enterprise I want a free-form subscription I want the Christian porn Christmas stocking stuffer kit let’s just get some real this year so that we can buy all of ourselves and create spaces for healing and beauty and bring back I love what you’re saying like an honor and of how different versions of sexuality have been and distrusted infested infested and two ways of demonizing things that actually have real potential to bring a really beautiful marriage if so yeah yeah a hold of those are very beautiful words I want to say we got a bit of time left if you feel like you want to just go I say I feel really really satisfied incomplete in what we what we’ve covered in I guess it’d be great to hear from you any any what else whatever else you want it you care to share and then certainly the website URLs and what people can do to connect Waze to find you and and maybe what’s next with what’s on the horizon 2 end to compete for this evening other I just have to say I am so excited to be at your work in the world through actually. Com or and the pleasure patch.com I’m also on all the social media actually or kicked me and group on Facebook for others and so come and find us there right now it is set up to be a Sisterhood of people who identify as being a woman so I know that that is a really beautiful space for women to come together and explore in community what it means to prioritize our orgasmic pleasure and also know that I have always looking for ways to bring men into our community and support them and their healing and their sexuality so there are programs to come for that in the future I just don’t know exactly when and where and why it’s not to be exclusionary it’s just in case and meet they would need 21 days off billion Wicked thoughts which is the Neuroscience behind our internet activity within the space when I was first time in years ago she was like women are needing and looking torso in that since I said go for it as a man I don’t get it Illuminating in our world right now men do not need the level of outer and inner permission for pleasure women are really appreciating the pleasure price as his permission slip that you know first maybe can be written by me or the pleasure patch but then becomes and to Paradise pleasure and it really does make sense to me then experience dependent right on well you don’t makes me think that I’m not for the necessarily the I think you mentioned it earlier kind of depends on what things can pendulum to Square One Direction yes so you know in this context I feel like I’m I’m kind of dismayed at seeing the the counter porn nofap kind of thing about it’s basically like okay you either jerk off to porn or you don’t touch yourself at all but in the in the sweet spot in the middle of it which is what the tantric wisdom in the Dallas wisdom is really all about for men is that you want to have as much physical stimulation as possible and you want to start to taper down the amount of ejaculatory orgasm if you have but still be able to have multiple orgasms and still be able to fuel those heightened levels of pleasure but not always be quote spilling your seed so there’s people who were in my you know me men’s tantric movement and they’re they’re doing these challenges for men is 21 a month or week or just work yourself up to longer periods of time of total not ejaculation in some people are some people go years I don’t I don’t choose that path although it has its merits if you have certain objectives but but I wonder if there will be a parallel movement because the more women pleasure themselves in in the twentieth the 21-day pleasure pledge if men are having solidarity non ejaculatory three weeks if not ejaculation but stimulation and they’re going to view way better effective at giving those orgasms providing the Arkansas to their female lovers there’s a way for you to harness your sexual energy by keeping your ejaculate inside but also elevating your abilities 22 you know what I mean anything there are so many total pieces of information that I gathered over the years around is just what that experience is for releasing energy and the male body and the release of semen vs. the building on connection to Life Force energy in the way in which women orgasm and I’m so I know where we can come together and so it’s interesting cuz in in are the fall and desire for equality I think sometimes that pendulum if you will get ourselves into this send this notion around saying this because when we think about sameness we lose this honor and have differences that is really basting a lot of trees and how we experience sexuality and pleasure an orgasm letting letting me go there for another final and bit of banter but yeah definitely we could go on for days and hopefully we will be in touch soon as this this approach has yeah well I will see what I can do to spread the word and and definitely will be in touch in in wishing you the best so once again thank you for your for your time and I will be in touch soon and have a great night VW. Concho Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving a podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episode if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com

Sex Worker Outreach In the Love Free or Die State with Ashley Fires TPP172

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In this episode I have the exquisite joy of sharing hope and invigoration to fight for sex worker rights with the highly accomplished veteran adult entertainment star Ashley Fires.

She shares her personal story of empowerment and success in the adult industry. We learn about her romance with New Hampshire and how she’s made a beautiful personal and professional life there in the liberity oriented political climate. We discuss the state of affairs in legislation affecting the adult industry and about how New Hampshire is in a great position to fully decriminalize sex work among consenting adults. She talks about her vitally important work as the current leader of the Sex Workers Outreach Project New Hampshire Chapter

We share our mutual visions for a more sexually expressive future and talk shop about what it will take to get some creative and fun initiatives going.

She does an amazing job establishing that it’s not just an industry, it’s a movement. We agree the war on sex is as real as the war on drugs and just as cannabis has been the gateway to more drug peace, and the policy reform on the horizon in New Hampshire may help to bring peace in the war on sex.

Please visit her at:
https://twitter.com/ashleyfires
https://www.instagram.com/therealashleyfires
https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/5177/ashley-fires-fetish-clips

About Ashley:

Ashley is the Official Spokesmodel for the biggest Fetish site on the net “Clips4sale.com.” You may recognize her from her many late night appearances on CINEMAX, HBO, SHOWTIME, and PLAYBOY TV in her famed B Horror and Sexy Soft Core roles! Ashley has also starred in over 300 adult feature films, been featured on hundreds of Box Covers and can be seen on thousands of websites. She worked with such companies as ADAM AND EVE, DIGITAL PLAYGROUND, BRAZZERS, KINK.COM, NAUGHTY AMERICA, ELEGANT ANGEL, WICKED, HUSTLER, EVIL ANGEL, and PENTHOUSE.

As a Glamour model she has graced the cover and centerfold pages of TABOO, HUSTLER, NUGGET, LEG SHOW, XBIZ, GLAMOR GIRL, VON GUTTENBURG, BUTTMAN, BIZZARE, and AVN.

She has been a recurring guest on many national radio shows such as “BUBBA THE LOVE SPONGE“, “THE JASON ELLIS SHOW“, AND “THE HOWARD STERN SHOW!”

She has also done a number of interviews for such publications as the “LA TIMES”, “LA WEEKLY”, “BIZZARE”, “HUFFINGTON POST”, and “THE DAILY BEAST”

Ashley was nominated for multiple AVN Awards including “Best Web Star” and “Best Actress.” Also been nominated by The XBIZ Awards for “Best Web Starlet” and “Best Performer” She is the WINNER of “SEXIEST ADULT STAR” for the 2013 THE SEX AWARDS. She also won the title of “Miss Summer XBIZ 2009!”

Currently Ashley runs her own production studio and produces award winning adult content.

She is also the Chapter Leader for SWOP (Sex Workers Outreach Program) New Hampshire.

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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to touch your Punk podcast episode number 172 I’m being joined by Ashley fires and she is at 15-year adult actress veteran and now an independent adult content producer and is also the sex workers Outreach project leader in the state of New Hampshire where some very interesting and exciting things are happening with regards to really Shifting the Paradigm around decriminalizing sex work and it’s a long time coming no pun intended and we really need to I’m sure tonight they just they just write themselves but but yeah I just a little bit of background from you leading up to this conversation and is that at one of my dear friends in the Tantra healing movement was very instrumental in pivotal activist in the swap organization and we have we been on the show before but she she kind of brought me into that Community a little bit and I I felt like I I wish I had connected with with it much more in some of the other chapters in my life where I was more or heavily sex working I guess you could say but as I’ve been coming out of the closet more in reaching out a networking it’s really it’s really heartwarming to see the level of Frontline advocacy work and activist work and Legend other work that that’s why I was doing it so any any chance I get to to learn about what they’re doing in to defeat Tria time I’m proud to and I’m extra proud to have this this moment to share with Ashley because of all of the connections going on in in New Hampshire and the libertarian movement and the free state project and the cryptocurrency that’s going on there so it seems like all of these Liberatore forces are about to really probably for the first time you know an American history actually not just legalized like marijuana but to decriminalize it and make it something free for consenting adults to do in private and to exchange probably whatever means if digital or or actual currency that they choose so with that said that you would be exactly should be just. It’s not just the old system in the world vital part of human life and yet it’s stigmatized shamed and you know used to control the opposite ends of the spectrum right and the the thought that I’m going to hand you have like Roe v Wade at this time here now might might be challenged right and then and then on the other hand you have New Hampshire Live Free or Die. Mike criminalizing prostitution and I was drawn to it a while back after chest of those. I don’t know if you’re familiar with it could be back up and just get more of your background you have such an amazing bio here I would love to get people salivating just hearing about some of your your work over the years leading up to this and then we can we can zoom into the into this yet what are Yas Harley so I been a sex worker my entire adult life 2018 I started dancing in Las Vegas as I grew up in California drive up to Vegas during the weekend go make a bunch of money and I drive back and go to school 2002 I started doing fetish work when that was private sector inside Dungeons and also French for sure it yours and sprinkle them with some fetish on camera off camera little this little that 2011 12 years now directing producing tellin you no hair makeup Cross services type stuff from Los Angeles like singing on sex workers that you know growing up in California you know what else we done at that point honey turned upside down best part of it but it was also a few years back the adult industry the adult entertainment industry has its own like me too movement and I was on the front lines that was so difficult that was you know it really brought into question a lot of wait culture if you know I started looking at how I other performer complicit or perpetuating such Behavior and do something about it or I can get out of the way but I couldn’t be inactive and so that’s why I became a voice this was in 2015 I started thinking about you know civil liberties for all people and rights as human beings especially in the workplace in the workplace and Kim on the question many times on social media towards me what if your work even work like a consensus was unless you know even if they are allies some not as such an emotional labor and get you you you know you could you do such a vital natural part of everyday father me so I decided to get is there a swamp here I tried to find a New Hampshire thought there was no such thing as I will have is there a demand for it there’s plenty of energy up there and it’s it’s about having a a camaraderie and you know this coming up next year that are actually like fundraisers get people involved why would you want to help us people well first of all through human and goodbye terminated against personally and I could go on and on that but you know it’s it’s about community and it’s about dismantling people wear the same rights and civil liberties as any other human being out there you know and add to it the SEPTA fossa God of centrally Deus Ex Berg on the table here and there’s definitely stuff that I wanted to say something since I have you into this is really exciting to me the Insight that you have as far as New Hampshire goes because the first time in the adult industry that I discovered of the fact that there’s only two jurisdictions really in the United States were pouring is actually protected as free speech I am not not to be prosecuted is pandering for prostitution camping so New Hampshire getting that status along with California I don’t really I probably glance the Wikipedia on that before I don’t know if there was like a case precedent there was like a pivotal case that happened but do you know anything about a cool can we do we get into just like you were romance with New Hampshire and you’re rolling in the industry there and then just why how does it it’s not eating meat you would think Vegas would be the only other place but actually it’s not but then you have New Hampshire and it’s kind of a left-field thing unless you think about the libertarian movement I don’t know that anything to do with it so whatever you have to share about that I would be so grateful to hear your insights I don’t really know much about the president case that that made you know it legal to shoot pornography in New Hampshire do you know that it was a guy who hired a couple to have sex in front of a mini video tape it and they they called that in a pandering or whatever they called it but are they are they were having sex at something it turned out to be hold on me so they fought it and they won and it was not considered prostitution it was considered making a movie right now an adult film because you wasn’t an attempt to distribute it it was like a personal thing or something anyways I don’t know I honestly don’t know much about it but I know it’s like you know set the precedent and you would think that because it is legal here more people would come in and shoot babe there’s basically maybe four or five. Yeah it’s a 1.3 million but still you think more people would come and exercise that right you know he’s come in and just check things out look around it’s all good they walk around and look it’s perfectly okay and you know there’s no reason why I mean if people want to have sex and get paid for it and try to make money and today you know you open up a PornHub Channel or like a clips4sale or whatever and make your own life just doing what you’re going to do at home that’s that’s a that’s why I fell in love with New Hampshire a while back yeah so what was your story of how did you encounter a New Hampshire and was it was it for what some people call it in the crypto space in a regulatory Arbitrage if you could go there and get a better you know 6 and set up with the state as far as the regulations go but what was it that Drew you there originally tonight at the married almost 13 years and they are actually in Vermont and we found out what we can check it out, got a place sight unseen and moved out like literally like a month and I love it here I mean I know this in the winter but you know seven years and I I’d like to hear it say I wish there were more people willing to come here and freely Express themselves sexually you know I was trying to give opening act like a kinky B&B because they’re going to be right here Tantric live in Sikeston you know it could be like a bit of a learning experience with you no panels and and demonstrations and stuff I mean I did a touch of that a while back and there’s amazing but I remember growing up being unreal sax a whole segment on tantric sex and you know it here ever since AT&T bought HBO they’re getting rid of all actual content of a stand of our way we’re waiting for the masses then tomorrow we will hook up take care of everybody you like I want to be I want to have us in that as that happens it’s ready to sign up The Exodus of this is this is I’m painting this picture I’ve been on the East Coast I’ve been to New Hampshire I don’t think I have stopped there for anything I may have stopped there for for some some classic Serta legendary Cuisine is probably what words would have me go through there but I’ve been on the East Coast number of times and I love the vibe I love the fact that the seasons cuz in La there’s not really season so you see autumn and winter and you get to enjoy spring and all that so I’m just in this moment of painting is picture of you having the BMV in and actually I had this idea a while back to say exactly in line with what you’re saying what should be how I feel like it’s so important that that we have places to go and freely and be as loud as we want and not feel like they’re watching us or you know unless we wanted to or whatever but actually we need like an Airbnb opportunity for couples and whoever even singles who want to go and be sexual in nature and in any Hampshire there’s so much beautiful while nature you can have some property with like a you know Victorian home on there or something even more you know the Eco kind of radical alternative but that’s going to be the place that I want to see this happen for sure you no place like you sending your and it’s growing in there is some some major thought leaders in that so I haven’t seen how the ecosexuality movement sort of thought leaders are really interfacing with with the activist movement of swapped but it sounds like we’re kind of making a little bit of magic here just talking about the stuff I’m sure that some interesting things will happen and probably they’ll have to maybe where you all do as a host to conference and invite me up speakers and authors and workshops just like you said you don’t even even if you rent to a facility and you kind of do a test of the model and and you know I’m sure it would it would be a very successful and maybe fundraise for the actual the legal work that needs to be done to get these decrypt the determination happen that’s probably segue to ask you what would you like to share about the the role that you and and swap are playing with the people who actually able to lobby and able to write legislation and in affect the political landscape as far as the decriminalization movement there so I would love to share who I’ve been talking with but I’m I’m not sure I have their permission I have been talking with them people represent in Congress and one Senator but I like I said I’m not going to tell anybody I don’t know I don’t know you no discussion but there is someone who helped offer a very confident that decriminalization effects work in New Hampshire is highly possible in the near future we want docs any politicians Erie but I’m sure everything will be press release you know will be forthcoming and in a lot of press will be on that so I’m just curious because I want to let you know I want to build a summer home there at the very least you know and maybe change my my residency to there and just go warm places I done for me I’m a I’m a real chicken when it comes to to freezing cold weather but but I would go in the Northeast is just get out of the Northeast during the affective disorder the point of a fireplace kind of cozy people who live here are gorgeous to come visit you should come to that I think I’m going to to to relocate my residency there as soon as humanly and financially possible for so so so many reasons and and one of them I will put out there and maybe isn’t necessarily your cup of tea or what you want to associate with personally but for anybody listen who hasn’t really Ducks doe dug into the opportunity that is the Free State movement or free state project and just the whole the whole certain regulatory Arbitrage thing is happening there so many things for different Lifestyles but one of them is that they have something called constitutional carry where you can carry a concealed weapon for your self-defense obviously just by the simple fact of you being a citizen of the United States with a constitutional right to bear arms and that is not being obstructed by any of the you know any of the forces that be that would that would have whatever reason you know whatever and motivation right baby recommend you go and register or get a permit with the local police but but you don’t even need a permit now that passed I think 2 years ago I’m about 2 years ago I was I was I mean I’m a total Progressive socialist but yeah that’s what I believe well you know what this reminds me of one one of the most powerful sex worker goddesses that I’ve ever met she is such a a heroin to me and one of the things that she said which is so apropos this conversation is that she would like to say this the sort of bit of wisdom she had and she basically said you know you can it’s legal for you to go down to a gun shop and buy a gun but you can’t buy my pussy that’s how powerful my pussy is you can buy separately but if you go to the Hampshire pretty soon you’re going to be able to buy both with your favorite cryptocurrency I know that’s funny letter fireworks from liquor stores that are you staying out of that is so great I am so there I’ve had I’ve had enough with everything I just said and I even thought of how it would be nice I like what you said this is important to to know what you said about you we do need those winter months to actually heal and until it’s I feel like the people are running on such hyperdrive in LA because there aren’t it feels like there’s really no season so there’s no introspection there’s no self-reflection there’s no getting close with the family or with the Beloved at it with the land you know being a part of those Cycles so I really do feel like I probably I probably fall in love so much that I won’t care to leave so even if it’s freezing cold because I’ll be around the campfire you know I’ll be around if you know this the the wood stove or whatever maybe so I know it’s gorgeous and it’s so cute really you’re the season Majestic earlier today and not because of smog smog 6% Caucasian but that was a bit of a culture shock for sure Caucasian it turned out which is which also further to the stigma of the same kind of like if there is such a thing as middle class in Hollywood now I feel driving I guess it depends on who’s driving I got there in four and a half but you can get all of the action all of the food everything I could to make sense to to be posted up legally in New Hampshire for so many reasons and then I can imagine it I kind of imagined that it would be the Vegas or or like you’re saying but I’m surprised that there isn’t a more of a booming adult Production Studio house industry given that you could it’s it’s bad. It sounds like it’s about as far as away is Vegas and everyone fled to Vegas when the the kind of life started taking enforceable effects in the LA County area so that’s a question I have for you is it you know if you’ve been following the the regulation around and this sort of the big money the big money clinical groups who are trying to shut down the street on the health but with the health department as a sort of there their battering ram into the industry I’m curious in New Hampshire are they is it is there any specifications from the health department or health code that that are trying to set the rules for the industry for the porn industry there it is it is the Wild Wild West out here we are more people more to join you know start producing they would have to try to regulate but I don’t know if they would because I really don’t think they would I adhere to the same you know guidelines as as far as testing goes the only difference is I need to get tested we we provide them with testing we make sure everyone we we go through this last we have this very detailed checklist I think it was inspired by Nikki Benz and if possible the only difference is we’re not paying Los Angeles or Las Vegas free small company but you know we talked about splitting, according Talent from Vegas and Los Angeles and you know kind of responsibility regulating type of business you just have to have trust that all people are you know I’m doing the right thing around that is because yeah I think that I think like Outlets sexually here you know I said you know if you will actually liberated place like you know I even thought about you some Leaf peeping directed in the professional studio shoot up or down with your spouse just that sounds like a great guy honestly before you even were saying this stuff I could I was just it was a premonition that you would be talking about this because I I just felt like you were going to probably end up working in some capacity with the Chamber of Commerce of wherever whatever region or whatever sort of municipality or me to Sally’s and actually help that like what you’re you can’t you know you can’t afford your Public Works projects you know your new parks are being closed down for whatever reason well here we got the screws it’s going to be amazing yeah I can see it now and start building and I’m almost filling my gas tank to start driving out there right now I can of gas its people have been wanting you know it’s been it’s been on my not just a to-do list but actually really it’s it’s it’s the lot a lot of the stuff is is I can see it happening and also I I I want to if it’s not already being taken for some other obviously a worthy cause I feel like the love Free or Die state is going to be the hashtag that I talk to Subway to get a handle on that it’s all you it’s you if you can take that and run with it if she if it works but I feel like that’s good it’s the best I feel like you have a lot of love but I like a lot of love yeah I know I feel it I feel I feel you said you were a Healer and you seem you seem like very empathetic yeah this won’t this to me you know all of the trauma that I have witnessed that I’ve experienced ice I can imagine that this is would be a place for people that veteran died literally I mean you know they call it in the adult industry we say that you’re a civilian if you’re not in front of you in if you’re not in front of the camera and doing the stuff for on the street or wherever you’re a civilian and so if that’s the case which I really truly believe it is then we need to have VA programs in hospitals in a note and benefits and we’re doing a public service for helping living out everyone’s fantasies for them if they don’t have the courage or the resources to make them happen so for that I like to be treated with this much if not you know as much love and respect and dignity and resources as veterans violence and brutality in Warfare civilians is military yeah that’s cool yeah and we aren’t we aren’t we know we were lying about reliving some sort of childhood, it wasn’t about servitude or Surrender sometimes it was just the process to the session would be the process to get to the Aftercare to get to that hug to get to that approval of being told you did a good job you know and when I realize that I thought there’s so much more I’ve actually I’ve had plenty of clients for a while there it was kind of weird they were widows widowers their wearers like I was attacking little words that were in various ways and people don’t understand that Sexual Energy can be incredibly therapeutic and healing you know when there’s something fundamentally wrong with that especially you know I mean now I mean Dairy mention you know I mean every day and I just kept having these handmade in handmaid’s tale things going through my mind and and now to be apart of Swap and to be keto on the inside track knowing what’s going on with this legislation here to decriminalize effort I am filled with hope and love all over again no more despair or fear I feel like this could really I meant to be alive right now at this time and to be here and now in this state I feel very very honored and lucky absolutely why I feel very honored and lucky that we are having this conversation you were exactly the voice of the representative that I wanted to find and connect with its in this is really an amazing amazing invigorating conversation and I just I just want to thank you again so much and you know we’ve got a little bit of time left I think we covered most of what I was super excited and looking forward to discussing I guess I would like to ask if you want to talk about the kind of support that you need from people in the area from people abroad people anywhere in the world listening to this but what what do you need to help your chapter really get to the to the point where were you have all your dreams are coming true and you know you have the people power and the skill sets what were you what are your pain points and what do you need so that that can just be put out there and it is a prayer absolutely absolutely awesome and I’m sex worker Outreach project is a nonprofit we do accept donations we accept recurring donations donations I mean just to be an ally to a sex worker to be supportive and you know aware that their work is real work and emotionally laboring work to know the sex work as a form of emotional and physical labor and that nobody story is is representative of all sex where you know and I think that the presence of sex workers in social movement come together and try to fight this and you have to fight what gone but it is a tubal refuse up sex workers bank accounts and it’s happened the money seems suspicious that’s unacceptable yeah yeah that’s you that’s the way to to bypass So Many Factors whether it’s the pimp violence or the banks or the state or even Amazon not wanting your wishlist to be you know used for compensation whatever it is the terms that you have to been in bed will I have to say that the my biggest public service announcement for anybody that might be in your network who listens to this is that I really hope that anyone listening who is a sex worker who has the u.s. exposed to these Financial choke point issues invest time in studying the whole cryptocurrency movement starting with Bitcoin and in aetherium but but you can accelerate that process if you start to look into joining the platform of spankchain which is bringing together all of the activism all of the the really Advanced cryptocurrency solutions for being your own bank literally being your own bank where you have peer-to-peer Financial transactions you can sell they will be yeah they will be providing a lot of solutions for the industry and for the producers and performers to be empowered independently and off the rails of the money system we don’t need to do our dirty work without your dirty Fiat is how I feel McGregor’s Outreach project we have like a meme donation thing you can donate cooked difference NFL Karma Dakshin and and how how sex workers are the difference between trafficking educate yourself some people have been looking for what seems like an ideal future to me or all of the the glory and the beauty of the healing in the transformation that is possible and also the the sort of in the streets marches and the activism going to take to get there and a couple of I guess you’re silly but up at the memes have come to me and one is it you know people I remember chanting in the streets protesting Wars and logging and you all kinds of pollution would not the people we would always chant whose streets are our streets and I can hear this echoing Cruise sheets are seeds coming out with our seats and then you can also got allies and civilians involved right thing that ever since I started looking into it swapped but I’ve ever felt like we’ll all of the the Financial Funding necessary to do real political work lobbying in legislation and all that stuff I feel like there’s got to be a way to solicit the the buyers of sex work the purchasers of the material that the funeral of the client’s right of the clients are you so mean maybe PornHub can put a donate button to swap you know somewhere I mean set stuff like that I would love to see the financing for all of the stuff that you have in your bucket list of dreams to make come true for this industry and for this movement that that the money if the people who can afford to pay for their further their fetish or for their experience or for their media everybody and you know what I mean I come from the the green business Eco business startup kind of seen in in LA and it was a no-brainer that you would want to launch your startup having a dollar of every purchase or a percentage of your purpose so that you could have the the pr potential of putting out press releases were you talk about how you give back as a social impact or I mean even PornHub has done a lot of cool stuff like that and I don’t mean to keep harping on them but because they’re the biggest conglomerate really that the industry absolutely and you know that they’re behind them right that I was either going to let my contact continue to be over there in cream to the channel myself because it because you know we can continue and have more follow-ups to this conversation but I certainly would love to explore some of your insights in the industry and I have some yes yeah I wanted to add you know how that Whole Foods you know if you have to you have to be a squeaky wheel gets the grease and House of weird that you were is this is thrilling to me I know that there’s a there’s worse things in the world than having pornstars solicit you on your doorstep like door-to-door canvassing for help me on Monday to take your singing telegrams you know what the my name is you could use the conservative rhetoric against him and say we’re here to clean up the adult industry sign here and give us a check what do you mean well I know where else next workers never would never when they used to pack meat and the muckrakers had to blow the whistle and that’s how we have ratio any conservative how do I I subscribed to say the r word regulation but I will say any sort of public outcry about working conditions that’s all we need you know and Industry within the industry of people like you who know what performers need what the issues are and can represent that and it’s not coming top down it’s not coming from you know sideswiping from weird organizations with too much money trying to push agendas where they don’t belong and some people know what I’m talking about there and some people don’t but it’s what they did with the keywords you know trafficking of course people wanted to sign off on that piece of aeon I support you know anti-trafficking laws of course I do and so what we could do is we could eat give them a dose of their own medicine like you said hi we’re going to clean up your industry and fine hair like that cuz that’s how they do so many things when they say you know that people don’t read the fine print when they when they sign initiatives to get on the ballot you know they read the sort of sensationalist headline that skews the facts to some moral kind of you get boxed in Morley by the by the by the headline of whatever it is and so that it’s it’s like appealing to logical fallacies for anyone to want to do that but yeah I mean this is really it’s actually truly the holiest and most most sort of medic there’s there’s a way for all of the people to I mean excellent performers have the legal space to do this right then then the medical aspect will I think it’s going to naturally organically become a safer environment if you’re not having to be underground in the hide from you know the the filming commission and fucking cops and at the neighbors and you could actually have facilities that work up Captain staff and you know and fungus were like just clean to the places I mean that’s what people say about the all of those secondary crime things that go along with Vice and things being underground and the black market economy you know if when you when you legalize drugs all of those secondary cramps go away and so this is a war on sex and we need to end the war on drugs and the war on sex and these problems will sell themselves in the free market so it’s going to happen New Hampshire you know get ready full medical benefits of cannabis right and I’m actually is for you I think what will happen is that is that is that the Cheeto person will get a reverse gangbang by a bunch of Tantra see the goddess and he will want to transform United States into one giant orgiastic goddess Temple to heal the planet from all the patriarchy that’s my that’s my vote I’m going to put that are you trying to turn me on now I try I try not to but sometimes I can’t help it it just happens thank you for that well yeah so we it’s been one of the most delightful hours of my life at sharing this time with you and I’d like to ask you now to give us the links to everything that you want to share and that you’re involved with and close this out with some final words calls-to-action slogans from the front lines whatever you like to share please take your time. Thank you it’s been an honor and I’m I’m I’m pretty sure my cheeks are going to hurt from smiling too so that’s as wot USA. O r g basically you where you can find me I just would like to do everything I can and vegetation Security building in Albuquerque beautiful thank you awesome alright I see well yeah let’s let’s call it a podcast and let’s be in touch and I will I will be in touch again very soon thank you so much and have a wonderful evening. Smiley and you’re coming over here thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Attorney Corey D. Silverstein Discusses Some Best Practices for Porn Production TPP123

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In this episode I am joined by the highly accomplished adult entertainment industry attorney Corey D. Silverstein for a discussion on some best practices for porn production. I was very impressed by his passion, ferocity, and insight on a legal panel at the XBiz adult industry trade convention earlier this year. We met and spoke briefly at the event and I’ve been looking forward to exploring his wealth of knowledge ever since.

He shares some of his personal background and path to becoming an adult industry attorney, he then provides  hard earned wisdom that will help keep new adult content producers and performers on the right side of the law. As more independent content creators enter the industry, this episode will hopefully serve as an empowering starting point for self-study. Ultimately Corey makes an eloquent and compelling case for why anyone involved in the industry should have competent legal representation and advisement every step of the way.

Please visit his website and access his services at:
https://myadultattorney.com/

Corey D. Silverstein is the managing and founding member of the Law Offices of Corey D. Silverstein, P.C d/b/a/ Silverstein Legal.  His practice focuses on representing many areas of the law that impact the adult industry.  His clientele includes hosting companies, affiliate programs, content producers, payment processors, website operators, dating websites, webcam sites, traffic brokers, social media websites and performers, just to name a few.  Mr. Silverstein regularly provides legal services related to: age verification and record keeping requirements (18 USC 2257), intellectual property (copyrights and trademarks), the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, the Restore Online Shopper’s Confidence Act (ROSCA), Federal Trade Commission (FTC) compliance, first amendment / free speech, obscenity, corporate law, criminal defense, internet law, domain disputes and various other areas of the law.  Mr. Silverstein is an acclaimed litigator and dispute resolution specialist. His practice also concentrates on complex contracts, business structure, and business formation.  Mr. Silverstein prides himself in providing prompt and aggressive representation tailored to each of his clients’ individual needs.  Mr. Silverstein is regularly featured in adult industry periodicals such as AVN and XBIZ and has been quoted and published in mainstream media including the New York Times, FOX News, MSNBC, the Miami Herald, the Washington Post, the Detroit News and the Associated Press.  Mr. Silverstein is also a regular speaker at conferences throughout the world (United States, Canada, Colombia, Netherlands) and has made countless presentations related to topics and issues that affect the adult industry and online marketplace.  Amongst his numerous professional affiliations, Mr. Silverstein is a member of the First Amendment Lawyers Association (FALA). Myadultattorney.com is a website dedicated to the representation of adult industry clientele. Mr. Silverstein can be reached through Myadultattorney.com or by email at corey@myadultattorney.com. Mr. Silverstein can also be contacted by telephone at 248-290-0655.

Legalizing Feminist Porn with Pandora Blake TPP109

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Pandora Blake picIn this episode I have an invigorating conversation with activist and feminist pornographer Pandora Blake. We discuss the shady politics of repression of sexual expression. While there are many reasons to feel defeated and demoralized in the struggle for sexual and artistic liberation, Pandora provides a lot of strength and hope that a proud, empowered, uncompromising, pornographic revolution will prevail.

Please visit her website at:
http://pandorablake.com/blog

About Pandora:

Pandora Blake is a feminist pornographer, sex worker and sexual freedom campaigner. Her films have won multiple international awards and her website Dreams of Spanking has survived legal battles against porn censorship in the UK.

Pandora is an active campaigner for sex work decriminalisation and labour rights, obscenity law reform, civil liberties and human rights, particularly relating to freedom of expression, gender, sexuality and privacy. She is official spokesperson for Backlash, which defends freedom of sexual expression among consenting adults in the UK, and organises
alongside the Open Rights Group and the English Collective of Prostitutes. An experienced public speaker, Pandora regularly appears on panels and gives talks and media interviews. She runs a Patreon to support her unpaid activism and political work.

As a sex worker and porn-maker, Pandora works passionately to increase social and legal acceptance of marginalised sexualities, educate the public about kink and BDSM, and reduce stigma and shame. She was awarded Publicist of the Year at the Sexual Freedom Awards 2015 for her efforts advocating for sex workers’ rights and against porn censorship. She is currently working on a book about the politics and psychology of fantasy, particularly the ones we don’t dare admit to in public.

Her pornographic films are story-driven and gender-critical, exploring kinky fantasies via a queer erotic gaze. She is the sole owner and operator of Dreams of Spanking, which launched in 2011, faced government censorship for its unapologetic depiction of consensual BDSM, and successfully appealed against closure by the UK porn regulator in 2016.

Her work has won awards including Best BDSM Scene 2015 at the Feminist Porn Awards, and first prize in the 2015 Short Film Competition at the Berlin Porn Film Festival. Her production ethos is performer-centric, and prioritises transparency, explicit performer consent, and equal pay for equal work.

Pandora writes a blog on kink, porn and politics, and you can follow her on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook.

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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to times for fun podcast episode number 109 I am doing an interview with Pandora Blake a sexual freedom campaigner and feminist pornographer in the UK and I’m really excited to go on a journey of expiration of some of the the challenges unique challenges of being a feminist born producer what the the ideology is and some of the obstacles that come up with the law and with people on all spectrums of of politics who have who aren’t yet converted to the beauty of enjoying feminists so that’ll be exciting cuz that’s your Forte so would you would you please Pandora tacos and talk to us a bit about your life path that led up to your playing these roles in the world I mean I didn’t even know it was possible I’m sorry my background is so I can keep them I started kind of expressing myself benign my teens and if a relationship 6 touring BDSM I’ve always appreciated having access to pool and I remember when I was a kid and I knew that was having kinky found assistant couldn’t make sense of them and I had loads of Shame and a new account open in about them and then being able to go online and find some of the phone is being made and kind of be late 90s any notice and realized I wasn’t there any one of the planets you like this stuff it was like it was really a fan positive people have when they grow up into politics and social justice and then yeah when I was an apprentice I was in an abusive relationship and I was talking to my partner about how I really wanted to be in some of the some of the spanking websites I was looking at because that’s one of my biggest things that we were doing together a lot in that relationship and he said but why don’t you you know you could Yorkie enough and you can act and I just had to cut to me that I might be a candidate for the encouragement I kind of found my way to doing some performance various kind of European and UK fetish sites as assets of performer I loved it like love that it was like wait you mean I get to dress up in fancy costumes and do the stuff like a real place I left you a home and I get paid you kidding me and I’m really into kind of seems and my sister just be happy for me so I can buy my own Partners along and do things with them so I wasn’t even having to walk with Strange’s I was going to walk with my Apartments so yeah Lobster up and it was fun doing some of the other guys doing it wasn’t sexy so like for a while I was trying to make it in Austin and yeah and while this was happening I was kind of getting more engaged with all the six educating myself about different things to do with kind of social justice and gender sexuality and gradually coming to this kind of Consciousness that maybe all though I had a great time in the Box I’ve been doing know all of this to you guys. I’ve walked with maybe had the best body of work from a soda gender politics suspected United very few of the produces I’d watchful had any models that one white cisgender skinny women that was no one shooting trans and non-binary people mad very few people even shooting and you know they would be some kind of role plays at times have to say no to cuz I just found a greedy roast like I don’t want to play a wife and her credit card and they when I would have been interesting than that but yeah I did Stephanie to get a sense that maybe some of some of these sentences with maybe coming from Apollo 600 Texas some money even though I was very badly treated badly about experiences and they were with really very small street is a very She & Him most of them because they still driving like you know I mean you have to treat your phone as well to 268 at nine people night and one of the things I identify pretty quickly was I’m bisexual and I like to look like male what is in Boise loss of the pool and I was saying like it was only really focusing on the female body is an object of sexual desire I’m going to stop at the educated myself about feminist pool and I was seeing this pattern repeated you know a lot of feminist poem being lesbian porn and so will. It’s being shocked from a female perspective and come to Italy versus gaze at the lens it doesn’t look any different from being shot from Head Resort from alpha Pack’s if you are still lovingly pining over these 7 in cups and I feel it’s the in order to stop to you really got some balance hey we needed to start shooting mail what is a sexy right so I’ll be sure to happen very produces have been doing this but in spanking those we know one doing it apart from a couple of gay sites to look into it and realize how extreme that kind of straight guy segregation was in the BDSM Community light in the UK unqualified to be like everything to do with find angle with a mint was anything with a female submissive so like GoGo might be included in that that’s not considered to be queer right because straight yet but if you’ve got a male submissive been committed by women by 9 then like male Studios the male bloggers the mail pass you can become aware if you wear Dynamics why I went to a spanking party in America that would be all these guys who would be wearing a dumb batch you know you got bad showing orientation and they be riding with the top bad and then they come up in 5 and they’re going to switch you know why is that secret it’s up to you if they know that you’re you’re a switch and I realize how deep this Prejudice cards you know it’s not Justin Bieber sound like that doesn’t offer a lot of him if I be against bisexual male mainstream Point form is you know if a man works with men and women there a lotof Regal Studios you weren’t hired them yeah yeah it’s it’s such an interesting gray area the whole double penetration no experience cuz he see that’s kind of hard to escape rubbing your penis against another man’s penis and I know yeah well that’s in membrane between the anus and the vagina much protection interesting isn’t so yeah I started to cut a critique a lot of the poem that I was saying and thank well I want to do something about this so she’s hanging in 2009 and I developed this concept of a site that didn’t segregate on the basis of orientation so it had female submission male submission meldonium male Mastiff female female stuff everything will enter one brief I didn’t want to kind of follow this received wisdom that all you’re going to lose your mail straight customers because they called back to see any gay stuff guys I’m sorry that was possible and then yes. About what else I want to do differently so yes she psa’s for sure she trans before missed right from the beginning like when I launched into it a Transformer that’s been the right from the start I’m done discriminate based on body type but he size skin color anything like that and fat as well I was shocked when I discovered in the UK in the BDSM scene on spanking phone scene to be paid asshole yeah even it says something like yeah so is that performing this really quite intense physical Ada Vox but the thing is that they is being sold to them like a free session with a dominatrix so they think they’re getting a good deal they would you think it’s worth that but the Corolla rail I will you get that is that those guys aren’t professionals they probably have a job they can’t show that face so they are in a little something and that just this like inanimate objects in the scene while the women is like posing for the camera and you don’t get any interaction between two contacts of the intimacy and if I’m watching a woman dominating man I want to see you last thing so I want him to be sexy as well I want him to be present when the cameras look at him I don’t want them to be focused on each other not one of them ignoring the other kind of so fat pay was one of the first principle there’s like if I’m going to get good Mouse house and I’m going to need to pay for it and what I discovered was that that was not a BDSM. Mulholland in the UK because no one has previously offered pay and so I was hoping to recruit from light that uses and the fastest team United like my friends like me out in the clubs and stuff and be like yeah it’s kind of given them a bit of a head start yeah and so but pay transparency fact hey they pay men and women the same you know it should you know it’s definitely a lot less cuz you’re not considered equal in the cell then the labor is different you know that your body is being put into a lot more stress you are more likely to experience abrasions like you’re going to be sore after being penetrated like is it hard work and so I do have different pay scales the bottoms and tops receiving a bee sting like a bee come back every day so I do. I do have based on how hot the job is but there’s no difference well this is going to end up being a reality TV show one of the top networks for dirty jobs or toughest jobs in Boston have you got that would be home and let you know the what it’s hot is a lot. No positive it’s cool so I had diarrhea since I went to two different name alone Society in 2011 the thing poster Tracy McCormick rolls like royalty you know I like trying to just reading that in times of working conditions and be ready humble and I can do feedback I like constantly looking to improve my game and Times of being super transparent giving formula to control denied being super chill about light respecting their preferences and not pressuring them requesting them and their experience are you fly like as a priority over the content I was guessing like really going to get basket that way around rather than that we had to get this no matter what it takes and I always say like if you want to know if I don’t ask me on the site right from the start like video you know I need the cameras running when someone calls cops and then you know I did not into the outtakes don’t just have the funny outtakes but like someone close cut how did the conversation that I made you feel good about it you know and show that The View that because of the phone right then Frank should like end of scene interviews you know that can go come to you and it was all like a great happy smiley videos of the end at the end of sheets that I didn’t enjoy and it’s like you’ve not been paid yet you haven’t signed a release yet is another bit of accent do you have to do to kind of be allowed to leave so you’re like yeah I had a great time this is fantastic and it doesn’t really tell you anything where is very smart and if they see the kind of you know you like interactions that happen between takes and just to kind of you know with people leaving around and having a great time that that tells you something and that’s much less likely to be active then someone speaking to the Cameron answering direct questions about like did you have fun music was I had fun you know that what you going to say no you’re not going to do that live on camera in 2011 and is Riyadh what every week with a bunch of sat behind the scenes video Russia flag in for the first year I was going to pay that much but had to do otherwise I might as well but you know like a try to take it seriously. Hyde some assistance. Just three years ago to the point where I was really happy with it I have the traffic I once had I had two cells I once said I could pay all my staff good Wright’s what I’ve been doing since the beginning but when I fast hide stuff I can’t afford to pay myself because I was paying them so I can pay them I like to pay me that there is money left over to pay me and I felt like I was getting so I wait for my work so that would be ideal but then got shot on a minute so you decided to yes. In a way that ultimately Cripple Creek business wow okay so that’s and that’s not this new bill that that was something else and they target you specifically or what what would what exactly was that factor that I just been choosing a whole bunch of new stuff with a colleague likes that stuff kinky sex stuff and we got together with all of us and show it was stuff that we like to do just in time script and it was really cool like really kind of hot rough sex and then like a couple of weeks I said they introduce this new Statue instruments that wasn’t even a parliamentary act like it didn’t get the bass hit it was just like a department pick up magic just produced it without any kind of price a painting that leaves marks kind of erotic choking V sting female ejaculation kind of wanting to do this like documentary showing Aquarius Xbox to the world so the neighbors like now you can still hasn’t been published for this reason and so it was a little bit but the reason all that stuff blessed with that in the UK we have this thing called the British border film classification and they classify films for Cinema release on DVD in 1518 for thoughtful and in the US the same is like 12 15 18 and then there’s this one goes all right team which is the one for like real sex like actual pulling people having sex but just like a sex scene was staged all right pain really doesn’t include much else other than real sex so if anything’s got any fetish material in that it won’t get classified even is already paying a release or dvd release me so it’s like the vanilla standard operating in a relatively kind of free environment and then in 2014 they decided to close that loophole and make it even say that now will the classification guidelines ulcer flights the internet so they already had a list of an old list of activities that wouldn’t have been able to be approved if it was the film where a DVD in that didn’t yet technically have the verbage on the on the books to include internet but that and and what was the Catalyst for that would you say someone is regulations 2014 and it piggybacked off Annie you know about audio visual Media Services of the EU Louis men’s to be about basically it says the online streaming services have to comply with the laws in a local country so it’s like your day was you couldn’t have Netflix showing stuff which like the BBC couldn’t show write it because it was published Ibis he’s still having a plywood details of that was like it was meant kind of competition local National Broadcasting Service why do they put out a business by the Internationals individual EU member states and none of the other countries like did they swear that this is just the UK who would like oh well we could also make sure that you have to comply with the BBC FC classification guidelines 2014 guidelines are based on you and it’s complicated but you know depends on President and so it was decades ago the recent KC Donut Lowell and the story of addicts and men’s velour currently is Health being what you could reasonably be prosecuted and charged with like if someone was recently requested for doing something when you come for the King Soopers doing that thing and they had been a case in 2012 and like I’ve been prosecuted for like selling gay fisting and gave me the assignment watersports DVDs and a jury UK people have seen that and been like know this isn’t it seem like a nice way of saying you know which perspective the right people want to watch it to watch that and say that case President should have meant that those acts would be considered for the PDF see God lines written years before. And I haven’t been updated with the chaos the case law has changed so it’s like wait you’ve got this list it’s like 10 is out of date with the case law and you’re playing at the internet which is like a whole new medium without even thinking that you should maybe bring it up-to-date with the current law in the country of what is considered the same it just seemed really frente read I see you guys you just saying so would that did that affect only UK producers or would that also affect I guess the whole point was for it to filter or to penalize content anywhere sourced from anywhere in the world that was being yeah that was accessible within the UK right so that that put a lot of pressure on another Studios and other websites that were yeah some what question with at least act like I’m like what the what the intention of the original EU law was but I certainly wasn’t intentional for UK interpretation of it yeah and so now moving moving forward to the the digital economy hack that actually would you want to start with or you want to get into that or do you have more to say about your the path of your website that gave us we should know what what how you adapted to that what you’re so basically I was investigated it was really obvious to me that I was the only spankings lights be investigated because I was being so I can talk to my head above the parapet and because I’ve been criticizing Baby Max 2014 website if they found me and breach which of the following must have been part of my family so I have like six months they found me and breach of a bunch of rules that have any content stuff and some other stuff and I have to pay my flight offline by this deadline and that was awesome deadline by which I have to file an appeal if I was going to appeal does running on behind the scenes drafting a pale I had legal help from backlash he would like her Freedom organization and my friend miles Jackman who is the kind of Topics in the UK light help me out with that as well but won’t let the appeal have been sent off the website taken offline I can let you have to just pull the plug and it was like you couldn’t hold of the file we had to break all of your El Paso case anyone have the oral stage light was it saves it was a lot of work and you couldn’t access anything anymore I then just have to sit on my hands for 10 months and wait to hear the results of my pill so for 10 months my websites the thing that I noticed any traffic and when I found out, so I said I’d won my appeal and I could reopen the site I like the business was right back where I’d been at the beginning so it was a moral Victory but in times of light my you know business item best years of my life into and thousands of pounds you know it was a didn’t believe me and if I could place on the one hand I got to publish a whole bunch of content which I thought I was never going to get published the one of the things that really you know when I said it’s offline was like I had a Year’s worth of content already paid for I already saw that could now publish I couldn’t get my money back from everybody but I said I was at risk of just lose the entire day so when I found I could be a pain I was like right yes this is a victory against the sunset going to reopen I’m going to stop publishing this content but I would like to know what I’m not going to published anymore because I feel like it’s quite unstable I’m sure enough like four weeks I got headlight of a tiny window think it’ll feel good about my situation after finding out who won my pill and then if it’s looking to be building table to Parliament for the summer recess I would quit I realize I was going to be like when I forgotten because my pillow lawsuit against me from collections but it didn’t exempt me from a future bills around 1 and I was just going to reassure you that anything could be classifiable whatever me ask you this is this is kind of a strategy that has been employed in in different contexts just to circumvent jurisdictional constraints and I’m just wondering if you would I know it would have been a probably be devastating to your brand to have to do this but given the climate it seems like the talent that you the talent that you’ve cultivated with the skill set to produce this art medium and the network that you have of performers did you ever think about her or do you think now about kind of either producing stuff and then licensing it to other countries or actually going leaving the country to contract with other the other producers or Studios where you could sort of just yet circumvent that that that just occurred last year has been sort of wrapping up the dreams of spanking projects because it would let you know my baby is labor of love is like with pus on the bus to go to buy Graffiti like it was really important to me and I haven’t been given the permission to sort wind up and publish the stuff I’d already shot for it I wanted to do that I wanted to get complete with that but in the future yeah I think like licensing stuff for the produces a definite something I want to do and like what is the director of the higher we oversee Studios exactly something I want to do but for the last chair light Jesus thinking I’ve been updating every week even though it hasn’t been making any money cuz my traffic like with a thought of what it was and sales were really low in my ice like stuff that I’d appreciate her going to other way so I was right back in like sausage made of just be like to have done this once already trying to stop over there if it wasn’t paying my rent so I had to kind of pay the rent and then while the oldest is going on you know I’m doing the time in this I was off-line the conversation around this look on Me Bill and particularly the policy that is really devastating beauty content is a traffic citation becoming mandatory for online phone in the UK and I had some time of educating myself coming a bit of a sort of expert in what is revocation for lane pool and would mean how it was that kind of evidence for and against it kind of like a 10000 watt consultations the government when they kind of opened it for like evidence of missions install and kind of fundraiser to try and get a bit of money back to the community in exchange for the casing on the bus so then when I’m doing physical work I’m painting now and so it was done just this light long slot for like the last year has been trying to run a membership site and sexual acts like on money and also do they just got the kissy all the while knowing that if you know we don’t succeed in all our goals with the fiscal complaining that the site is going to have a future so it’s been a tough time and visual economy Bell is just to make the end of it passes through Parliament I just did a massive update yesterday on the latest amendments and we just had an actual amounts in the UK yesterday’s it looks like it’s going to be rushed really quickly now if it passes a tool sorry it’s going to be play within a couple of weeks going to look like an old wax I’ve been doing for the last year’s to try and buy some bottles around different things they’re going to fax sex while kissing freedom of expression in different ways you know we’re going to find out pretty soon to what extent that paid off what do you think that timelines going to be in pass cuz I ask for the election okay well so it’s a big deal is there anything people can do now is there any kind of call to action to put pressure on anyone in the and the government to I mean I’m just curious what kind of rallying is happening around it especially now that seems like it’s kind of an Abrupt end on Friday which is really saying and some of the Amendments that we’ve managed to get through in the House of Lords about example the we managed to get the clothes about the B-52 have the content removed in the bell and replaced with just saying you couldn’t have any pool in the country illegally extreme pool which is a really narrow definition that most of his life that’s reality and animals and it just comes to me like to drape so that could cover consensual BDSM and serious injuries to a Nespresso genitals which could come a confederal BDSM but that’s a much smaller list of stuff is not allowed so you can basically say that you single-handedly or you and your your network of sexual Freedom campaigners basically protected the legal right to do fish sitting right on the Internet is supposed to be like to be reactive on this but yeah I mean I kind of thing after I’ve listened like 7 evidence submission and I’ve seen some of that weddings. To come up in the debates I think it has submitted a small difference which is nice feeling like it better than it will be for nothing amendment is now up for criticism on Friday and Dez Losa Christian anti-gay organizations were going to oppose the amendment so all of this work is like Bixby does Master Chief risk being undone on Friday only women know how to please other women and it makes them jealous is that what they’re felt it’s really it’s really pathetic and in that’s absurd is staying in on falak E Noor to the Safeway to have sex like if you don’t mind where to buy HIV rash kiwi good for them to learn about and realized that kind of on the menu because it’s much less risk of like guys in pregnancy so yeah I mean a lot of love by the Creek community and so it doesn’t surprise me that a Christian organization cat cold that have funds to conferences which promoted a confession comes like he’s going to be able to bring back that you can’t have this thing that does not surprise me at all but yeah sorry we need to write to arm piece I guess I’m trying to find someone and ask him is when I stand up and say no I think this amendment is good thing but it’s very hard to find parliamentarians willing to back by the poker face even consensual bond that pullover fee well it’s interesting cuz you can I mean I have a different I have a diverse array of perspectives on all this stuff but it certainly is a double standard to allow for especially having just the amount of violent acts the murder and in gun violence and everything that you would see on any mainstream all the video games all of the TV shows you know anything goes for all that kind of violence and then if there’s one drop of pleasure mix with the violence it becomes satanic and their minds in a sectional couch with her that I think I sterilized you know it’s hard as hell to difference. Ended light because Game of Thrones is officially end time it made it or not pornographic they can show you like beatings and right lower the stacks but the moment you have that on a website that’s intended to arouse suddenly that becomes an acceptable it’s like WellPoint is entertainment and there’s nothing wrong with getting aroused by something that doesn’t mean you can donate it just means that you’re having a reaction that seems like a really is so wouldn’t in any of the debate around for mixed content of these things that I could be a fantasy role-play pretends they assume the oil be a time is like a recording of domestic violence like that’s how they took it okay that I cared so that’s the Lacerta linchpin of the argument so it was is there some clear distinction legally between I’m basically based on what you just said that that the free sample of Game of Thrones being permissible but other forms not is it because it’s a certain production value of the studio over because they have better lawyers are going to have to win that it’s meant to be like if the whack it’s only a prince play produced the purpose of sexual arousal what is the head seems like you know there’s other legal standards where you would have to just for a lot of things they would say if x if x percentage of the time duration of a unit of media is going to be so does that mean you just have to have more dialogue and then it becomes narrative but because it’s on his website that calls itself a pool inside I don’t know I think the double-sided is very hard to defend I’m not interested in trying to defend it like I think I’d like to make sure you’re not there you go that’s a good way to look at it and we should just be great paying sexual content will wonder if you could if you start calling at anthropological ethnography and protected as part of the academic freedom to the government over the ivms she successfully one herpe on the basis that was a feminist article for Jax because I saw it was about you know punishing men with the patriarchy subscribe to the rhetoric in order to have a right to sex while cuz you know we won’t be one is fed as I expected to be listen to four agencies be respected so I can send to be on it and rice. Dismissed is irrelevant and we want that to play the old tax records because it’s the people who’d wouldn’t know how to use the language if maybe most need those rights right yeah this is well with them we need more academic feminist to get in the game and start to help with the lawmaking and counter legislation and you know what some feminist Alliance beside right with all of these laws are coming from Auntie’s Xbox feminism like the denial letters I just don’t really care but it’s the women who think the old poem is degrading will put his violent with X back is traffic hanging who advocated a slight passionately time time again and the guy at the mail at least he’s getting viruses going with it maybe you’re right and there’s no strong female voice being like sex like is why we have the right to consent to what we do without anybody’s you know if you have a problem with Colossus Xbox challenge policy don’t tell him if I can go through mechanisms and sex is not shameful we can have a sexy want to have yeah I know what could be more of a not only harm reduction but also just a radical feminist paradigm shift to say that hey if you want to if you don’t want to work for the man and you and you choose to be a sex worker you can make more money and have better pay and better working conditions to make queer porn with female feminist porn producers then having being pimped out made my decision is this black but in the meantime you know a little put up because of trying to do our own weapon conditions come painting and set some standards in a community standards but then it really would like a recognition well yeah this is this is again just feeling that it would be great to hopefully for the people who were invested in this to to do more Outreach to get to more traditional feminist organizations to support this. The debate you know I think that’s a really valuable things to do right to your female legislators try and get them on the side and rib pain from festivals that has so many now and they show such radical be used for Creative Innovative intimate films to find employment Hub and realize how many possibilities there is River City media to be truly gorgeous and human unpack your phone if you care about this then you can just leave each of the three sites which you know you’re exploiting fullness and take you back in a few industry you needs to put money where your mouth is and guy said the Indy produces who is making the ethical stuff and support them very beautiful yeah I’m so there with you I’m glad I’m glad we got to put out some some call to actions and I likes to say that if everybody follow me on Facebook and I said $1 each a month then I can go full-time and knocks the best waxes people can chip in $1 at $5 a month whatever they think they can afford it all adds up because I’m is distributed is chameleons have one person cancel the subscription and still supported by a nice time to the people and I every other guy pays for the day of my time so it labels me to take time off from having to do paint watch in order to do that was important to me right on you know what that makes me wonder are you do you listen to Susie Q and the horror cast yeah I’ve have you considered asking her to be a guest on the show I’m sure she would love to promote your efforts yeah please do I just been binge listening I’ve caught up on almost all of the episodes of the last several years and I feel that she absolutely is the the superhero in of the sex work industry and now she’s playing a very powerful important role in the Free Speech Coalition professionally so I think we’re going to see the changes that were talking about the Coalition building and the bridge building a between the camps of feminism and certainly there’s just so much more in my opinion I’m seeing that the the political climate if you will in the United States is is bringing people together in a new way so it’s this is the time this is a like a window of opportunity to really steal those collisions because people now steal the threats that the intersectionality of feminism is now turning into a a major pile-up it’s such a disaster this situation is is going to get people out of their bubbles you know big time and then if I back. It’s so depressing I mean we have to go in there so fast is happening people like why do I need to leave the country and I was like no I shouldn’t have to use my homie. I’m hardly ever Miss hanako family cuz I know it’s like well maybe we could all leave myself oh yeah you got to establish the Island of Lesbos to serve Renaissance an actual nation of of queer feminist pornographers maybe get a get a ship in and be an international waters you know I just get a cruise ship and bring all the the queerdos together and you know outside of international waters Irving outside of any national boundary so that she could be a and we’re actually hosting a new camp this year is no way which is the white Regional bun you know you like the bunny man they have like yeah end of the count that we’re coasting it is cooled re acuerdo say we’re going to be doing a bit and create a kind of Oasis Of Love. well right on well yeah I would say you know it is the Free Speech Coalition cover is covering all of these important legal challenges facing the entire adult industry and so I would definitely say that you probably I Don’t Need No it’s it’s I will be a good a good move to yes so we’ve got a few minutes left here to to talk about I like I said like to it’s kind of a in a warm down a bit from that the intensity is building up you know and and just talk a little bit about well how about a bit about how we can Empower people to 2 BND pornographers because the more people are out there doing their you know becoming joining the movement artistically the more the more space there will be and then the more constituents there will be two to vote for the stuff Southeast us and I am feeling poets by the Sea get you something but yeah I mean in cameras and lights you can be youtiful cinematic stuff on an iPhone and not show light I’ve seen phone screen to point festivals that are showing in iPhone I mean you have to be a nerd right you know I mean something that is itself you have to be comfortable with software willing to install stuff and read documentation and teach yourself how to use it but if you ever fooled around in Photoshop then you’ll be able to pick up Adobe Premiere Pro Final Cut pretty easily like if you have any visual graphic artists sang or if you’ve ever used like oh. C o n e o d i just like you know it’s just one extra Dimension from that so if you’re the sort of person he’s fooled around of the computer making stuff before then you’ll find pool in quite easy today I’m self-taught like I never learned how to do video editing for anyone else yeah I said that you had definitely the the technology is more accessible and it only gather the entry-level the barrier to entry with the technology is almost non-existent sick the power is in everyone’s pocket is indeed I you just need to have an internet connection and it helps if you’re a bit of an Internet resident you know like if you spend a lot of time on social media already you know how that works cuz I mean in deep one of his rely on social media to get Silas is do the marketing and see if you’re coming to the house without you knowing that you could help us and he’s like an offline person I think you might struggle to get of you is if you already like live on Twitter and I’m glad that you will do fine right well that’s okay so that’s that’s a some good point of questions there is it a I am very cautious about breaking United States federal laws and being in compliance with all these complex layers of legalese that you you know really it’s it comes down to a lot of it is a form of digital entrapment really if you produce content you know and if you don’t have even if you do have a really high and lawyer there’s a lot of moving targets and there’s a lot of vague language and in the laws and then now there’s a there’s States within the us that are starting to take actions similar to what you’re you’re dealing with were there would be a major game-changing requirements to you know you can’t just put something up on the web because if it’s at all accessible that one yeah which was which was luckily I brought down but there’s there’s there’s new stuff coming up that similar that would be making it so that you would have to you would have to have a huge budget to hand code or to create custom code there’s no one has like a module that meets the specifications of these new laws that could you just plug in your your WordPress module and it complies instantaneously with whatever is happening that’s a long way off so it’s going to be no so I guess the question is really what do you it’s a different landscape obviously legally and inflict and what not but just even the ethical stuff about age verification and and being able to show the world that porn producers ethically minded feminist minded are are doing their best to keep content out of the eyeballs of minors and obviously be compliant with doing good record-keeping and verifying the age of performers in 1 hour to rationalize even if you’re working with your love is new friends new probably all going to be like exchange paperwork at Contract Heidi Schultz keep records if you use the big kind of video on mine sites like hipster style then they’ll handle all of the legal stuff for you so you aren’t I mean for the content stuff in the UK like people investigated Patient First on Pocket Edition economy growth rings in HB Navy requirements to and it’s very hard for small produced to Ford cuz you have to pay per visit at your side and most people don’t want to send her style of the traffic that’s how it’s going to work okay well I got it I just want to zoom in on that for a second so there are they creating a a registry where you the traffic to your website each person would have to go through their sort of a guy or just be interested in chasing profit know it’s going to be free market they’ve got a whole bunch of like private companies who’ve already developed IV solution for the Navy stations on Mickey lights there’s nothing to make sure that they respect you as a courtesy what time would I need to take a database if you know it will the sites that use of his looks hadn’t what they paid for and then like as high as well. They ceballos like my name so yes you’re going to be liable to make sure they’re not going to take that’s the other quote you know if a hacking is the biggest give me the Ashley Madison one resulted in suicide mindgeek Padres have to breach so yeah it’s very worrying and then you know style produces being penalized at once recognized by the cost of this another ones were being regulated by government was just saying we’ve written an IV solution you need to use it it’s free will be like well okay cool but instead I have to force my site visitors to use in Secure Solutions organized like everything I have to pee like 10 times more than I’m currently running an income from sales on doing that like no thank you what is the the are you from so I’m I’m I’m not as educated about this is is say probably eventually will be as I continue to produce content but I have been using the strategy that that you kind of mention which would be to Outsource the legal liability to web platforms that are establishing that do have all of that third-party record-keeping options you click a box in the I do webcamming to so anyone who’s a cam performer will it it to an extent I mean there’s any anybody could come under scrutiny technically in certain ways but for the most part you know it’s it’s well it’s the whole webcamming thing basically is a gray area that doesn’t have its its operating in a massive from anyway yeah and then I guess the question I have is said the around the. XXX domain standard and I feel like there’s this is very vague to me now but I I just feel like what this could eventually evolve to if the if the the big players in the industry they might have to become somewhat socialistic or so much communistic and in a sense of well maybe the thing to do is to create that top-level XXX domain space or something like that where the porn all of the porn that’s produced in the world is is somehow survived from a sector of the internet that is kind of a centralized is that scary but in a way I feel like the the international coalitions of adult content producers could probably you know I guess make a sort of the same concept of an insurance the way Insurance works time to do this in two minutes to take to conceive after so much, you know like an old poem is on XXX XXX are made by the way let you know how much they cost expensive things like 10 times more than adult cam XXX like me needs one pressing the button for an individual countries just like we just got to find it you know that pain is much more than what if it has to be said everything has it all over the place and I don’t want that segregation light but you’re right that we do need International standards the idea of local government imposing local censorship and going to bring an ISP blocking besides that don’t comply with the various roles that introduces of the government is just going to stop buying porn sites that it doesn’t like from being viewed it in the UK a tool you know light in the same way that China and Saudi Arabia and Iran control that internet like I thought we might be a free country so I just think that we need to start developing resilience Solutions a distribution enough to resist that kind of effort United everybody needs to be using a VPN for stars I’m quite interested in Kind of Night by posting like as not going to accept Bitcoin and things about him being with Lion on like the Visa and MasterCard regulations is it was a logical person to ship that controls pool and we kind of con Sal like these are muscadine except I need money for any files of videos that increase blood stop music on have any menstrual pain Eva where is if we start to kind of Branch out and when not putting all your eggs in one basket let me know it’s hosty relying on any individual platform will not tell Siri that an individual billing provider we not talk to anyone TLC but we kind of spreading out then we’re going to be able to weather the storm a lot better yeah well I always think about to get blockchain I don’t know it’s so do you know much about that or no I’m not an expert on bitcoin a total is so stupid, like I said we have to have it running well it’s it’s cute it’s not it’s very scalable system it seems to me and hope that we can get you plenty of funding to continue with all the great work you’re doing and I would love to see you connect with the FSC the Free Speech Coalition because I think you would be a great asset to their efforts and they would they would probably fight together I mean before Millions is like you said That’s the Way Forward show all right all right well yeah let’s you go for for the David thank you so much Pandora I learned so much and that will definitely be in touch and good luck with everything when shaving it when it’s out alright thanks take care thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Township Park. 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How Tantric Porn Can Save the World with Lawrence Lanoff TPP86

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Tantra Punk PicThis is a unique episode wherein I invited one of my main tantric mentors to help me process after several days at the XBiz adult industry trade show. Over the course of the last year I’ve been immersing myself in the adult entertainment industry in order to understand how best to bring the tantric and shamanic sexual healing arts into the light and in front of the lens.

I’ve been artistically and spiritually successful and with the research, development, and due diligence I’ve done, I’m hoping that with the right help, I will also be financially successful and thus be empowered to incite and accelerate a higher level of consciousness in porn.

Lawrence very graciously holds space for me to share what I’ve discovered and helps to inform, guide and direct my visions with his knowledge and wisdom as both a tantra master and veteran Playboy director and producer.

Please visit his website at:
http://www.lawrencelanoff.com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin welcome to podcast episode number 86 this is a discussion with Lawrence lanoff and before I get into our dialogue and introduction I’m just want to preface a bit by saying that some of you listen to have been following for a while now kind of can grasp this evolution of my foray into the modern adult entertainment industry and the sort of mission that I’ve been on too kind of understand the industry and build alliances and really try to find partner is to develop a tantric in shamanic Niche within the industry and it’s been it’s been a really exciting journey and I’ve learned so much really over the last year of deep conversion into M into all this in so the kind of the Milestone or Pinnacle that’s far was going to this Expedition show the one of the main you know International adult industry trade shows where they had a track of sessions with panels and workshops and speakers and presenters and I just really was blessed to him I have a really positive interaction with a lot of people in and do a lot of people who I had only known them by but say a logo or a brand or something and I got to really connect with them and just get into that that humanists behind the scenes really everyone you know I’m trying to make a living and you know that all of the Shadow and the dark side stuff that I’m really passionate about transforming it’s it’s it’s interesting that there’s a lot of fun of interest in what what could be the next level of extreme or what could be you know not how can you take the sentiment of being anti porn and turn it into positive uplifting spiritual porn instead of fighting all of what you disagree with it’s like if you can’t beat them join them and I’m really feeling that there is a a Synergy in a Harmony and a deep level core level in the benevolent humanness Underneath It All under the sheets and Vine the cameras and whatever level of Consciousness I feel they could be pushed forward or towards Transcendence or whatever kind of you know elitist sometimes a posturing that spiritual people can take towards quote non-spiritual people or materialistic people or lower chakra people or whatever it is you know it’s just that there’s a very endearing quality to a lot of people in that in the industry that I got to you know connect with and even people who like I said me on doing things that I really don’t resonate with just looking into their eyes and seeing their there’s a sweetness and there’s really even in that you know within these an industry professionals they look at the people who are doing really really dishonorable things and just sort of stayed there is there is an exclusive nusenda shining that happens internally I guess since so there’s that was hopeful for me to see okay yeah there is some discretion and what the lawyers were saying and what the most successful producers of singing that people already know taking risks and enter pretty much Outlaws to do any of this even though there is some constitutional protection in some places in jurisdictions effect is everybody is it some it some there many links in the chain of adult in of adult production involves being an outlaw so there’s a camaraderie in this an honor among Thieves kind of you know Vibe and and people so the people kind of have each other’s backs and the Trade Organization the Free Speech Coalition it starts out there you know fighting against all of these oppressive Andra cursive forces and trying to sort of carve out the space for sexual expression as an art form and you know all of the queer porn all the feminist porn has these Elders to think who who you know broke that taboo by making adult content and not all of it was I mean most of it has been historically to serve the market of the male gaze but we’re now able and away thanks to that you know work that they have done able to open the space for new discourse and there’s a sort of yeah there’s a Lineage 2 to really understand so it’s it’s a deep and complex issue is certainly not at all simplistic from any angle and I really kind of just wanted before getting into this very very passionate discourse with Lawrence just say that you know that the resounding conclusion from this industry of activists Free Speech Outlaws of porn production and distribution and sales and marketing and Performing everything it’s like make stuff that make content that you’re proud of and that you’re willing to fight for it cuz there’s no matter what you’re doing there is somebody out there who is going to make it their mission and purpose in life to try to take you down for whatever reason it’s to empowering to women it’s not enough parent it’s not empowering enough to women and it’s obvious where I stand on that is you know operating under the the label of feminist you know there is but the even that is is complex so not everybody has the same definition of feminism certainly not telling his porn but what it comes down to it the end of the day everybody there they’re going to fight for each other in court in in the public space in the media you know on the red carpets of the porn Awards they will all have each other’s backs and fight for each other as long as you know able to defend and be proud of their content and I’m certainly you know I’m I’m I’m attempting to make content that is going to really be inclusive and increase that the proudness factor going into sectors that before have been extremely hard to warm up to any of this and you know for example making something you know making content that’s the parents and religious leaders will undeniably feel is wholesome and Redemptive and actually instructive and perhaps you know in absolutely in line with the spirit of the or the essence of the scriptures that are attempting to provide guidance for us about how to avoid the the Peril of unconscious unloving disconnected fornication or sexual activity that is is potentially can be can be potentially contaminated by extra-dimensional beings some people call him demon some people call him astral parasites some people call him you know bad spirits or whatever but the a point is on a scientific medical immunological epidemiological parasitological level of science however you mythologize about it sacred sexuality is a technology and it is what every religion is essentially groping for and some of them are more or less in the dark about it or in the Dark Ages about it and you know what I hope to be bringing as far as bringing the light it’s bringing the Psychedelic shamanic lens to sexual conduct and if that can be you know embraced by the religious right by the porn industry by other porn performers themselves and the producers then I think the world will Keith better place and I will certainly be proud to be a part of that shamanic porn Revolution so with that said we’ll get more into the sort of nuts and bolts with Lawrence about the industry and the state of our sexual Liberation and empowerment and healing and he’s certainly the man when it comes to all the stuff I bow down and I am everything I say and do I consider to be you no dancing on the backs of giants such as himself and another man for those who have had on the show so please enjoy it thank you for bearing with that introduction and also just know that I get pretty passionate at times so I take the lead on a lot of fun the issues and I’m passionate about and then again I’m I’m just saying in advance a big thanks to Lawrence for holding space for me to be this younger Buck who’s kind of you know ready to take all this on and in seeking his his wisdom and advisement as a veteran of the industry so yeah thanks for listening and I hope you enjoy it I am here with Lawrence lanoff what I who I considered to be the Obi-Wan Kenobi of Tantra my one of my esteem spiritual mentors and somebody I truly deeply look up to as an older brother in this path and we’re we’re going to catch up a bit from the last time where we did a declaration of sexual human rights assertive Treatise on what we’re up against and how to unfuck your mind and yeah and so yeah you want to talk a bit about where you what you been up to over the last year I continue this journey of on fucking your mind honestly cuz I just feel like it’s probably one of the most important things that we can do for ourselves it is especially you know especially in this day in age like it’s just such an important thing in there so many things that call at our attention so I’ve continued to be offering Alternatives because I understand for some people you know some people like mindfuckery and maybe they think like I was talking with that young woman at the farmers market and she was telling me you know I’m doing this training and I’m really excited about it and I know I can handle myself and you know kind of all these things that come a kind of bravado that comes from not really understanding how treacherous the territory actually is it’s kind of like a you know anyway ignorance is bliss so what I would have been doing is continuing to give people alternative ways of looking at things I’m thinking about things so that they can more deeply unfuck their mind and in fact I have a on that note I have a woman’s Tantra training coming up in Sedona and that you know. Is to help women unfuck their minds there for their bodies and the same you know the same is true with the guys have been working with them some of these projects so here we are you know year later I feel like it’s needed more than ever because there’s a lot of mindfuckery out there so that’s where I’m at an absolutely I’ve been following the podcast and it’s one gym after the next end yes seriously good stuff I mean I thought I had balls with what I was getting into topic Weiss and you put me to shame so I’ve about yeah well you first meet me there you go so I’m glad you said yes and amazing voices out there and yeah the kind of the context that we that we started that was my my profound interest in the work you had done with the red hot touch and the bringing conscious erotica training into the realm of adult entertainment which you have that solid background in with Playboy directing and producing in your own array of projects and that intrigued me when I first heard about you on the Laurie handlers podcast and thought it was so amazing that there’s this attempt to or an opportunity to bridge the gap between sacred sexuality practitioners and instructors and and temples and all of that Network and actually since not a lot of them seem like they’re really willing to become porn performers per se or adult performers there is opportunity to just straight-up hire established performers who have all their fans and actually sort of gracefully approach that whole world and bring the beauty of the experience which speaks for itself out and Doctor Nation or ideology or you know I’m a crusade but more of just an offering and an invitation and since you had done that and I discovered that work and I wanted to connect with you we’ve talked it Avian and it sort of seated some ideas and then I’ve been pretty much since then been on a mission to hack the porn industry and figure out how to figure out really like do Dylan due diligence as I’m I’m going to be investing my body I’m going to be risking my health investing money and all these things that if you were you know working with the A-Team Angel Investors they would expect you to have a business plan and and do your due diligence and so what I’ve come back come back to you after a year of deep study and an immersion is a lot of insight that I kind of want to share with you and get some feedback on and sort of talked about a bigger picture potential to really navigate some of the madness that is the current state of the porn industry from the laws to the performers to the etiquette and the the hierarchy and the politics and figure out what the opportunity really is because I know there’s people with money out there I know that you are a world-class producer and I dunno establishing myself to be a performer and there’s nothing but mind fucked or poorly fucked or both women out there in that world and and men to sew and everything in between soaps before I kind of gives like a a briefing here to the to the conversation where is your heart at now with all this and you know the whole Enterprise is pouring virtual reality these Innovations and we know where how do you see yourself in this in this evolving discourse and technological platform and media platform I you know I am so I mean it sounds silly to say but I am so Pro technology on so many levels I I see technology as an extension of human consciousness in a sense and that Consciousness can be kind of you know very pedestrian or it can be a kind of exalted Consciousness if you will like something that maybe I guess I would call it like the difference between technology that focuses on you know making your life one way or another more painful or technology that focuses your life energy and force on making your life better qualitatively and I feel like all these technologies have that potential they have the potential to really qualitatively created different life for people and when you have you know when you’re in a situation where the culture we grow up and is so messed up around 6 to begin with and then because we don’t talk about it it ends up the default teachers end up being the porn industry itself which is a little bit of like the snake eating its own tail and then they you know than anything else all these kinds of generalizations and stereotypes that people end up learning so where that leaves us is technology that has massive potential but ends up getting utilized by kind of the lowest common denominator and there’s like a pandering to that that’s like it you know you’ve you offer that to people and they like it so you make more of that content so they liked it more until there is he’s weird paradoxes where you know this question of what which comes first is it the chicken or the egg well that’s actually a trick question because she comes first but the butt but I feel like that’s you know that’s where I am on this I mean you have these incredible breakthroughs you have a limited sex education and for many people Limited sexual access so how do you navigate that territory with the tools that we have and I feel like that’s that’s kind of the precipice tree stand near the edge of in this discussion right absolutely me that’s a good a Segway for for me to give you this update about what you know really is the future of all this stuff based on the top industry you know innovators and and a sort of yeah they’re breaking a lot of ground with 3D and VR and now really the what is looking like it’s going to be the the the next next level is this sort of reactive gel-like substance that is sort of intelligent dues that’s not really slimy but just kind of encapsulated in some kind of skin like sort of container service or like a I mean I guess if you imagine if you filled a plastic bag with Jello and made it intelligent through some sort of now know something then it could actually respond and conform and because you know I like the Terminator 2 like liquid metal but it would be something soft and Squishy and phuckable and squeezable that would squeeze you back and it would be dynamic in this virtual reality world so you would be you know having your virtual reality sex that’s feeding your eye sockets and then the dynamic interplay of whatever your whatever it however the system reads your movements and you were accusing your eye movements and we’re not you’re going to have this this fuck quad make bean bag Attack of the Killer sexy beanbag experience that’s going to just be no blow your mind and you know they’ve got the dolls and robots but then you’re looking at a dollar a robot but if you’re looking at your favorite pornstar and this this you know fuck bag thing is is is taken care of you then I guess that’s really where it’s all headed and and it’s again I’m I’m with you on on being you know as much as I’d like us to go back to you know the the the most Primal way of being on Earth it’s not likely it’s going to happen it’s more likely that if you protest technology you’re just going to be left behind and be unheard and irrelevant not even have a voice so you kind of have to yeah be involved in some way and even if it’s to subvert it or you know there was a sort of a group discussion I had when I asked at one of the panels it was like women women porn and it was the top kind of execs and entrepreneurs and just a whole panel of of really that the women in porn who were going to not let you tell that tell them that they’re being exploited do you know they’re going to tell you that they’re killing it and you know it’s none of your business so you know they had a question answer section I got it from you said you know who is anybody I mean I’m looking for I like to know if there is a a secret class of already trained country cozort dakinis who have found their way into pornstar dim or four star or being starlets in the point in history who who I don’t know about who they might know about you-know-who so and so she’s a total knee whatever I’m like we should talk cuz this is what my my you know vision is into didn’t really find didn’t really get any any answer about who that might be or if there are people like that but just having spoken the word Tantra in that space it it did Drew a few people out of the crowd afterwards and we had a like Mastermind conversation about know what we can bring to this and I was pleased that there were other likes very well trained you know seasoned veteran Township people there and we were just yet actually having this Jam conversation about you know toys versus shift in Consciousness to facilitate more group sexual activity and sacred containers and what the it’s funny cuz there’s people who go from being total communal Visionaries are like I want to live in a I want to live in a group you know social atmosphere where is communal and we all male do each other’s dishes and it’s going to be Utopia and it’s going to be a tribe and then they have a few months of that and it’s like dish CSI every day and that’s the Achilles heel of every to go over really switch and then they they pendulum all the way back into like I’m never doing that again I’m going to my apartment so it’s like this dichotomy between mediated sex toys and robots and virtual reality aloneness and physical separation and and the Peril of that versus the Peril of but but getting my needs met in a relationship or in a group of poly people or toxic people is so filled with Peril as well there’s really no you can’t just offer the the you know what I like to see is like a you know what these these toys and these programs in this software is is obsolete because people actually touching each other lovingly and connecting and fucking each other’s brains out more than any other activity you know of besides gardening and sleeping and that’s you know where we go but that’s there’s this I guess tension between all that so where do you see the sort of Continuum between virtual and dharmic opportunity to step up you know the way that you guys did you know back in the day so I just want to bow down deeply and in just feel this moment I feel like what you going to work that you did could really be embraced by let’s say the top pornstars in the world we know they just have to have a one experience of being shocked if I’d you know doesn’t have to be the most extreme Kundalini activation that’s ever happened but just that feeling of there being something loving comforting nurturing that’s beyond you and your mind and your partner and that dissolution into the Divine that’s what we’re talking about that people have just not had the the training to experience so let me add into that that Christopher who built the first Temple Hills and made the video and audio Studio the idea behind not in the idea that we shared and came together around was that you can prove to you that the media confer the equivalent of shop Peapod and that is the interest in really being able to use the media to the new Consciousness God is consciousness is totally imbued with experience it’s what you feel you have to feel it through your being condescending a level and I’m certain EU I’m sure you’re not a practitioner of country with understand that you know what is being built a try to be accessed through the practices it’s the practice he that show off because one can actually manifest and transmit that that energy way that this wave which is the sublime Phoenix but is that the blitz of the gods and goddesses that they are all in this Union space of a blessed and the nectar of that you needed to shower and down and when you can create that wave and I believe that way if it is a transferable energy field which if it’s really establish that can be communicated and transmitted to other people through the media for the sound and light and vibration frequency office amazing gift because that is touching the stars and that to me is in a day it’s been able to tune into that multidimensional nature of the staff and to then tune all that you are all the eats a dune feel to those principles of you know Divine connection and connection Inc you know see the other as yourself understand that they think I’m depending the, that comes back to you so if you just understand that going to happen and all you’re going to want to do is put out the best of all that you can be and how do you be your best you be your best by June in your energy vehicle that you are understanding that all this solid stuff isn’t just solid energy fields and that you are the master or Mistress of this Divine machine that you can gift and that it’s your duty as an awakened being to use everything that’s one of the things in country you use everything rather than refuse or deny everything is money for the other spiritual part of chosen to dissociate in order to be able to develop spiritual nectar but time to use all of it if I do the Alchemy does the Alchemy of all that with pure gold by and my sense of it just touching everything with the heart with the vibration and that’s goddess and the time you know either as a device if you like can be used for for power or it can be used for love and another goddess is all love because that is the only eligible because yeah that was the most Exquisite beautiful Treatise on Tantra that I feel like I’ve ever heard and well it’s a it’s spellbinding and I feel that I just blessed blessed to hear these these words be spoken and by you and and I’m curious if you would like to guide us through what your creative Works have been I know you’ve you’ve you’ve got too many directions since the book was released but I’m curious what do you recommend people start to discover beyond the book that that you feel most proud of and and thank you yes well you know I do see the whole thing at the adjoining and I I I came in as a bikini but I didn’t really know myself and I spent the first part of my life and I think it’s natural for beings to do that to spend the first part of their life but then who am I trying to know oneself and then that way you differentiate your paws from what has been necessarily conventionally and you you you choose this especially if you’re a person just naturally go to the beat of everybody else and you know I know. Keeney is now have been their name is being taken before I kind of embodiment within but you know what they represent in essence is in at the embodiment of a feminine wisdom principal they are archetypes of wisdom wisdom which comes at you naked because it is naked it butt naked truth it’s naked just radiating blessed through every pore and it’s disruptive because it passed away all the things that you because I think you relied on and all those artifice is an old as he go dramas she just Trampled Under Foot and lost and she’s drunk on the blesiv share spontaneous being yeah in the other part of my life before I discovered Tantra and the reflection that I came in just trying to see who am I and in that I said who am I and how do I fit into the culture that I find myself in and it’s my own self and what other projections of others and how am I seeing and how do I see myself and all these things I was bringing into my experience of and I found the technique of collage and that was when I was doing my thesis of surrealist artists map sons did a number of collage books using old engraving and in those books he put together the Engravings to create seamless new world but they were very Fantastical you know people had wings and snake came out between the Pavements and the real encounters happen but now look like they were meant to be like that all the time but he’s instructed them and you couldn’t see where they looked. Together they were a new world and I said I thought you could kind of see make it look like it’s not. But it’s actually fuse into a new reality and you can also really joke people’s perceptions by bringing together the things they wouldn’t normally associate together but by the juxtaposition you to create this what they call it in there so am I use those those tools of collage and use the loss of images of myself had my own photo taken and put myself in that so that I could be both see the Muse and the one I mean the object of somebody else’s view but with photographic and then I also made three dimensional objects and I use those cool things in a lot of pieces life cost of myself my own head button and then like us about the people that was similar to using photographic call out your photos Honda back in 73 I had an exhibition code opening which was all about food and the roster so I’m bringing together you know that the body of woman with the whole idea of the table together in that and it was very shocking to people dressed up I had a whole wedding cake constructed I’m prevented myself as with a van everything adds the wedding cakes at the invitation for the exhibition it was in a being fully engaged in in in the eye and after that I forgot I started it went through for 7 years which was a major I guess you’ll call now to send what was that word wasn’t used at the time but it was me looking at all the skeletons in the cupboard I had a relationship with this filmmaker and we were meant to be doing all these projects together and it never really asked you fully manifest and then we broke up and it was my whole drama with woman’s theater group and my what with them kind of ripping apart their relationship and then I just had to process all this cuz I would say I’m sorry can I ask you something really quick I don’t want to cry or be a gossipmonger anything but I feel that the the Dynamics between creative creative relationships romantic relationships and those the way those play out the Ender play especially if there is I don’t know what that was in your case but I’m I’m really curious to see what wisdom you would have to share about you about using tantric skill sets and tools to harmonize human personality conflicts that’s a big big question a lot to to explore but if you were able if you were confronting these sort of issues were you able to at least somehow raise the vibration you know even if there are deal breakers and things had to be you know closed off but I’m just curious if you were successful at all and applying principles or by Christopher Hills my you know the person who built this property here he did a book called creative conflict which was all about heart-to-heart communication and about people needing to be hard I’m so it’s at whole dynamic between having an exchange with someone else but that person letting you know after you’ve spoken from your heart but they have understood it reflecting it back in their own words to you and that you do that back and forth and it actually creates a whole different kind of feedback loop the misunderstandings that often have a good exercise based on you know Christopher understanding of those principles a yogi eyes pop from being a western scientist animal and he was all these things wrapped together but that was a very good example of principles into the relationship Dynamic but for myself you know that it’s been so many different relationships and even oceans and you know how many dimensions the last to it and each one I’ve had a few major relationships in my life apart from many other relationship but as a few major ones you know that had bad that even a beauty and then Gloria and the agony and you know all of that and I always say there’s no such thing as my student so I like to think we’re all students protection is setting in the area relationship dynamic especially going to the mat the male-female dynamic at this particular time on the planet is in such a challenge in at the rest so many areas that go across because she knows you think of just love and attraction and vibration if you like you know that conventional I’m just you know that Dynamic the spice of life and energy vibrations which you know I make everything so complex and setting it this time the whole sexual identity is something that so you know I’m in the midst for what it’s going to be the next evolutionary stage of how we’re going to be able to manage male-female dynamic in a new way and of course you know the true Keys the Contra do do hold those keys because it is a true and which ones have it if you are able to hold that Crucible and a gaining and it didn’t. Do you have the real chance to be able to see the Divine in each other and bring the Divine fully into that invaded relationship and that you know it’s just the the Beauty and the glory and the end of the immortal France and get moving into our discontent touched any magical ways but at the moment I’m playing a lot of challenging in our relationship not only to each other but to a whole The Crucible of plant it up and down with her that you know that the interpersonal has to also be expanded I believe attitude tantrica to include the whole interaction with all of our natural world at this point and really bringing that into every meditation and interaction really because we can’t afford to lie if that helps eco-warrior and was all about planting gardens and saving trees and I still am now but I feel like what I’ve added to that with Tantra is just a ever-deepening reverence for creation and for the Divine the astral the Earthly Plains all the things we often take for granted I just want to be in that state of reverence and awe that I think most people achieve that when they go into the Great Outdoors and then go hiking or skiing they they have a tantric sort of shocked if acacian of there at least their parts of their system get woken up an activated unfortunately it doesn’t seem to be enough to make them into real hardcore activists a lot of the times but I feel like the there is an ecological agenda that is very transparent and very intrinsic to the path that that romance with with the life-giving fertility of this divine feminine and if you know a lot of people experience very direct communion with the wisdom intelligence and directives of Gaia through this practice so do you want to talk a bit about that kind of revelatory ecological revolution of Tantra if you will be glory after the sexual Revolution and I would save the kind of a cool resonance that I’ve I’ve told condemned presentation to some of her because I really believe especially in the cold vibration that she said we’ve got to start treating the Earth like a lover not like a mother and it when you treat her like a mother it’s you expect the mother to get unconditionally do everything for you and you don’t have to give anything back but if you treat it like a lover than you you know show that you have to give love to that lava and it says to a slow and so that’s an important shift and I think that’s a good thing to bear in mind and I had one time when I was in my twenties and experience with some strange object did Johnny and in that time I had what I still feel program the most orgasmic experience that I had when I had it I was just lying back on this massage table I wasn’t touching myself but I was having these orgasm just passed through my whole body and what I was feeling at the time I felt like I was body of the Earth has style and the every single every single of an insect’s wing and the slithering of the body of a snake and the rustling of leaves everyone going through my whole being beautifully spoken and who could not want to experience that who doesn’t anybody out there not enjoy orgasm it’s a very small number and to the to think that it can become such a flow state of being that level of Sensitivity I kind of almost feel like what most people are striving for when it when they’re trying to get off you know whatever gender or sex they may be is there their they’re basically trying to use friction sex or some sort of high-intensity friction contact in order to kind of chisel or sandblast or break through all this plaque that separating their nervous system and their chakra system from the cosmic Bliss that is a constant wave of orgasmic energy so the more you dissolve that plaque through right action through dharmik practice and purification of all kinds that are very well enumerated in the tatras you know an in yogic texts and Vedic texts there’s a path way to clean your stylus and get more of that orgasmic slow going and it’s definitely so abundant and not so scarce like everything else that we’ve been tricked about as far as the scarcity mindset vs. the abundance mindset so that’s just a follow-up that’s from me and and now that we’re coming to a close on time do you want to talk about some of the anymore highlights from your creative works that people should be looking for then about what’s what’s the current and future of an exorcism it was called and said some the book that I put out and that was trying to look at all these psychological States and and who am I and is that I could dance we both kind of psycho and then I come out at the house and then I have discovered time trip by this point and then I meet Nick Douglas as I say and then we went on to do another College book called man the next to see which was just a celebration of coming out of the confines of this black and white house and all the Western Heritage Inn in the Himalayas and just everything is one century psycho-spiritual play of of everything the profaned the sacred oil mixed together and it was a it was just we were enjoying and I wish I knew how to do, what a wonderful tool it was expecting this and that was that serious and then at the same time we did the secret dakini Oracle which was the 64 card Oracle system in systems put that out and that’s being around working since then then I went to to the Caribbean I was there for 15 years at I-10 and time got a long story short I realized I was there because of the embedded energy of the Arawak Indians whooping for alcohol Caribbean free Columbus and the Magical and pure kind of society who had been swept under the carpet of history and speaking to me and so I firmly believe that the indigenous way of life is the way of creating sustainability for the planet if we can start to embrace him understand that engage instead of in a friend that to the side as the Civilization V how to be in tune with the spirit and all things so that was my home to that way of life but I did for my portraits and they are like Indians in my time that and then I came back to America in 94 after I was I was here before that New York I was working on my phone from about the Arawaks and I finish that and then it was then that I met Christopher Hills and came here and then for the time here I am held a lot of events dr. Christopher past but she did the 97 to bring in the goddess energy and I still would like you to describe them when we talk to them right to coming on on on the car that you were interested in the way of using the energy that is that in these events and we’re all these awful waves so all that happening and I still while we can offer them to the goddess and then she can give her grace to us and doing for several years he has many people from the whole graveyard from performance thoughts and in the area bringing them in and having people get their offerings to Spotify and then one. I made the 64 that key Miracle which isn’t Eeveelution of the nlra but this time each of the energy that he needs and I have 64 Oracle and I hope to do a nap cuz if it can meet chat father and that is like a temple for the goddess and an Oracle phone just working on more three-dimensional pieces the game and coming back into a focus of customizing they oughta game having reached out to all the Divine archetypes imma come back into a more personal expression and now that I’m done now I just want to see you on tour with the museum installation with all this I’m not the biggest art Aficionado in the world but of course I’ve I’ve been a fan of Alex Grey and H R Giger and what I after this conversation I feel like I got a lot of catching up to do on on what you put out that I wasn’t aware of and I’m really going to enjoy it so it is a sort of a sumtur got some guidance that you could provide to say hey go and you know you can go to your website and in and just order purchase what you have or their YouTube videos or any other ways to access your go to website since I mean Menards.com has a broad spectrum of the word that I’ve been talking about and then 64 the numbers that Kenny. Org is where you can go to consult the Oracle and but also that the gallery of the images of the Thai King is there and then the Blue Lotus pod. Com which is rstudio site which has some videos and Son photography so those are few things that you can look at to start with and I haven’t all page on Facebook too with how about Instagram of you if you got on that platform say it took me a while because I just have so many projects and engagements of all kinds I didn’t want to be distracted by something that was another no platform of that nature however I am totally convinced now that it is one of the most strategic leverage points for anybody with the message or Consciousness that can create visual content it’s amazing I just thought of something I wanted to say and it was about relationship and resolution from a perspective that we were talking about mentioning my exorcism though that thing about The Break-Up and processing of the relationship and that’s what spurred our conversation about relationship with my partner at the time and next month or beginning of next month I’m going over to the UK to go to a conference and speak that that’s about this film makeup Peter Whitehead and over the last few years we can get back together in the sensitive film that we did at the time which type of being shown all those years and I was able to show that the Hayward Gallery in London and oh so I’m speaking at the conference about him because it’s a whole retrospect if they take him to the archives at this University and son a solution of some quite powerful can you describe it at all or just footage that we shot at the same time I did all these photographs that became the basis of the footage of myself and my girlfriend and Peter Shaw hit in this old derelict mansion house could love and it’s all just showing it Roar has it came out to the time off to all these years after 1969 that was shot and I guess this unit many takes but it’s like in this time the space that it’s like a magical experience that’s amazing so is there any hope that we will get this that’ll get to see a bigger audience or what do you have his first plants with that now is scheduled to reach a larger audience is a documentary that just being made of me he was young filmmaker Cove it started walking on it in 2012 when I was over in the UK I’m getting a tour at the gallery about my work and he was excited and said, I shouldn’t interfere with you and that interview grew into the documentary what she’s dressed now completed and it’s all of my early walk treat antra I’m in London and a relationship with a woman that hole. And it’s called Penny Slinger Out of the Shadows quite a good release coming up shortly support and Discovery and in the promotion and I’m definitely want to continue to explore in and talk with you about how to support the mission that that was laid out and and I feel like someday I will somebody will be calling me and asking me what was the story behind what brought me to interview and people like you if this is my contribution to the world and there’s just an ongoing interest and it’s so interesting to see to get this background and to have to really just go on a sort of a Time a Time trip into these you know these different points in in your creative history and really if I could just ask you a couple more questions before we before we call it a night do you have a couple more minutes being this kind of bridge through these was one of the things to me that’s very important in the manifestation of my life’s Mission if you like is to be able to be active and relevant at this time in my life when I am old and that the wisdom of the wise woman knows he didn’t pack anything back into society and that’s what he need so much to be able to swear I act now I’m not wanting to be Destin historical figure but I am for the active right now I love that thank you so much yeah that’s I’m so thrilled again that we’re having this conversation and I feel like the the need is is greater than ever to access the wisdom of the elders going back yuno thousands of years and the question I actually want to ask you who really is like the what the let’s see the shocked it country code is the goddess worshiping country cuz whether they would be considered on the left hand path of the right hand path or generally I think more realistically it was a it was a sort of he was ambidextrous it was an ambidextrous way to be in in in the shock to Tantra schools where you were dabbling we’re not doubling but really actually working consciously with Desire with with Will with your will and also with the Divine elements but hopefully with Integrity to Lenny’s trainings you would be in service to add a v or in the process so that you would be sort of putting yourself to work for the Divine will and getting your commission of the small things that your small mind actually wants in this small slice of the universe or the universe and if I if I simplify what the essence of the positive empowered healing Reverend Liberatore nature of of the more feminist Tantra is about purification of those parasites of the heart that you mention you know earlier and if if that was the intention back then against the forces that Humanity was up against at that time that they warned us the forces are going to get worse it’s the Kali Yuga World age and we’re going to be inundated with these negative entities once again the technology that you were exploring and has continued to explore and her still as you said ready to bring to the present moment at this time of absolute sexual Madness more than ever through porn the the question is it took me awhile to get to it but how do you advise the world now about the need for Tantra what are your what are your words of wisdom and take as much time as is you have pleased to give us some guidance now Where Do We Begin what do we focus on and prioritize if we have limited attention spans you know yeah please and that was about a left hand or right hand Tantra and as far as I’m concerned they only real difference in a kind of pacification is that the right hand is to do with meditative Union with say the daikini and the right left hand is to do with actually taking an inverted Shakti to realize that Union but it’s both to do with the inner Union with the Divine being and then the interesting cuz I had it seems so simple but I had a revelation between like tantric meditation and the meditation of other religious forms is you’re not sublimating that energy that section energy you actually using that but what the right hand while you’re using it but with this entire no. Can you actually making love with the internal. Kini so it’s it’s using everything rather than denying everything so I just really wanted to address that because when you say to balancing photos of course you know the play is at the Contra dealer is that Tina between the outer and inner and other call BNI it within the soccer not the gross body that’s why it’s called the second body the energy body where that is you know that that in a erotic channel of energy where in at the Statue of Santa up to the crown and it’s all one energy and I said that they that the blessed is when you envision and experience the union of Shiva and Shakti in the crown chakra meaning like completely in their territory around but fillet in the cellular matrix honey and milk into the Lotus at the hot and got us that and that is The Crucible and that’s if the dentist thing to focus on in the inner plane that’s it because it’s about the dog and dangerous about the dog that hot ass between me and have a claim and it’s true that you know list for meditation that you can stop with the chief Zach time does all the time male body vibrates but we’re actually wonderful wave energy that you are manifesting it’s that I want it that you’re tuning into it with the gift-giving wow so the right-hand and left-hand path are not antagonistic that’s an illusion make the pads Chrysler make an ex or something in a beautiful dress right as bad as it spirals as it should beautiful thank you for that clarification I think that’s going to help a lot of people yeah so so I’m dressing and red and white snake spider and around but you know the contract principle is to get that energy than going into the central Channel which just you know is this I’m at wave of infinity no bottomless and topless photos of spiraling into that Central Channel yes yes thank you so much it’s as beautiful as it’s no wonder that your visual artist because you’re you creating a beautiful art form in the Maginot just through the word so and yeah thank you for that I am very excited to see what you continue to develop and and I definitely feel like his you’re saying it’s if it’s if the wisdom that you’ve been carrying is not percolating through the generations the way that it it we would hope for it to then I want to be stepping up as somebody who who really makes effort to connect people who are interested in erotica and neurotic media and the wisdom teachings that that you you share to be able to access them so hopefully this is one small step in that direction with doing this podcast and I’m going to definitely look forward to just catching up in schooling myself in your work yeah any other things you want to share before we go tonight you are sending out many good powerful vibrations to everyone who possibly tunes into this that they fix that part of being that country Quiva of the own Destinies and put themselves in the center of that own mandalas so that they a defect not just cause at the same time of cost aligning to the Divine headlights in the sky but your fulcrum and your guide so that you are at course but your turkey day at effect of the goddesses well, all right good night thank you so much pain he will text you and take care, and click on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818 to 7515 3 or emo band at Country Park. 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Political Economy of Sexploitation with Ex-Porn Star Vikki Dark TPP82

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Vikki Dark PicIn this episode I’m blessed to converse with former porn star Vikki Dark about the political economy of sexploitation in the adult industry. We hear heart breaking horror stories of her descent into the industry and invigorating stories of courageous escape. We address an array of ancient, recent, present and future paradigms from radical and eco-feminist perspectives. Ultimately our conclusion is hopeful as we find ways to share strength and explore synergy in our efforts to transcend this pit of capitalist sexploitation.

About Vikki:
Vikki Dark is a writer and academic whose work spans erotica, feminist thought, biography and transgressive fiction. She’s a radical feminist and a sex industry survivor who now campaigns against the injustices rife in the sex industry namely the use of comprising imagery by producers for the lifetimes of women.

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http://vikkidark.co.uk/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 82 I am on Skype with Vicky dark a former adult performer who has become an advocate for I’d say a better more Ideal World where people have evolved past this industry with a lot of this harmful Tendencies and this is really very well-informed and has a lot of insight and wisdom that you probably aren’t going to hear in many other places so I’m very proud to have her to share her perspective and to be able to feel very honored to be able to have a discussion that’s going to honor the sacred feminine in a way that a rare rare opportunity so with that said Vicky would you please tell us a bit about to your your history and where you came from with all of your eye with your works okay so I started young in me I don’t need to stray I literally was terribly chain bad relationship with my mother problematic bloodline theme my mom have problems when she was young and young boyfriend needed money and basically is so adverts in kind of papers you know. I wanted to be an actress and it was for that dances and that and then there was some stuff like that and so I explore these effing used and what got me into the the stuff that was most life-changing okay I’m at woman who was an agent and as she basically I said do you want to be model You Got What It Takes I thought it would be compliment and it ended in me doing hardcore pornography very young age so yeah but then I pedal back it was really I don’t know if I could say tree affect me at that age I kind of like buried it was like it was I was told he was going to do monthly and then I turned up this place and and then then in the next minute I was told I was sleeping with you having sex with a man when I was very young. 27 and I kind of like I was one of these young people who didn’t have much I had low self-esteem I guess I kind of like you know if I could be pushed into things quiet until they got me a few drinks and stuff like that and I wasn’t even legal was not the actual American strength what I used to call it back then you know what I mean America’s it so you’re saying it was beyond like Xtreme guns or what I don’t know exactly what the other on light 2000 late night is was when you actually see the penis entering the vagina so that’s nothing now now now compared to what’s going on what we go out there an American strength was considered like strong and so that’s when you actually see the penis into the vagina film I have watched the film I don’t want to do it in such rhetoric I believe you didn’t see the actual you know that the American strength Paul which was a penis enter in the vagina you just throw these Shack in the actual sex scenario so that was that was actually one of my first experiences with the Auto industry but I said I didn’t want to do it at first and then I said oh okay well you know okay then leave whatever but I didn’t have the money so just call me that the paperwork quite nice by the end of the day I was lied to about where I was going to do I was young I did it I needed the money had no money to get home so just go off so that it led to a series of me me kind of think he would have done that so it’s good money you know who cares and I was taking ecstasy and stuff like that in the time of taking a hard hard drugs but I was definitely probably a generation and in England it was like a kind of rape scene in America to Global Goods in Rave for the guy that was a big thing right side quest retrievable the Heyday and it’s definitely been a hyper regulated in isn’t is pristine the underground is been kind of co-opted into more of a corporate new rule as it was you know that was years ago and I remember you like to take my phone saying things like that I mean there was some it was a good times about my younger life but definitely gonna Seattle industry was was was something that suddenly became was something new at first and then very quickly became something the buy me very depressed and something that raps that you like them because of the money and it becomes your kind of perspective of Your World becomes you yeah yeah you know it’s 10 fish if you’re young it’s like, to see the the wood for the trees and in times of Morrow was in everything I don’t believe in the religion of the parents and Friends religions and spell projection of morals at all wrong if it feels right you know to the person sound sensibility then I believe that you’re gone and you know what it felt wrong I needed the money young age I know you didn’t want to lose your money with a few hundred quid but it was not very quick work for a few hundred pound and and you know what kind of didn’t really look too much in the future. This is you know this is wrong so I head out over here and everything like that cuz I was kind of like in this mentality that was like a regular jobs but I was doing regular jobs and stuff like that I had my first boy when I was 9:18 and then they had him at 19 pregnant your first you say your first boy your first child and that yes. So then I saw it becomes you have to get the bread and stuff like that. Yeah we have fine he didn’t get you wasn’t bothered hit it like you don’t care whatever he scraped my knee so it’s always been bringing 500 press if it’s a question about women are objects thingies the money was very good you know 502000 lbs some nights at least think that I was the cream of lap dancing club in London is the best one you can get that was lucky enough to get in there at that time I felt pretty lucky yeah. That for the next few years, that fell into the Esco inside of things because what happened cuz I had a nervous breakdown come out if it had my second baby and then and then fell into the high school inside of things and yeah you do something for me so you’re getting the money and the money is gone. You have a good holidays you’re having like you know who these great things the capitalist system office but it comes and goes it comes and goes and you kind of left a different nose person you kind of don’t look mad the same anymore you’ve developed and also and I hate to admit this but you kind of become rather sexual as well I mean it’s a big is a mess around in the Auto industry that women have really really highly sexualized and really like an eye out for it as they say in England but I mean the biggest faux pas if you are a sex worker is to make you hate sex love sex so much I really really love sex and you said you don’t have to fucking say that you know you don’t have to keep saying it because that’s what’s expected of you why don’t you just say you just want to know you want a night off and I hate that about the women actually now the new kind of the new object is the subject so it’s like they but they kind of the women are currently I see on social media you know I’m telling the truth and the monster manga I don’t have this kind of thing but they are not kind to tell me that they own their sexuality on film because they don’t let you know I’m that sexuality says they say right so you absolutely awful experience I’m not negating the fact that we can have adventurous animalistic sex wild sex and everything. That what I’m saying though we become a collection of signs and signifiers which is nothing to do with a list of gender and sexuality sorry if they are saying that they only sexually inside the more important basically is the woman is the focal point the timber I guzan arranged in such a way that the man the man appear to be subsequent reaction I mean the dicks there and everything and it’s lent to the the woman and taking place in everything. That guy’s a party not the partying up with him indoors and I know sorry the actors the cameraman these are old guys it’s a party it’s a boys club and she’s in the middle I mean you know I think actually I would go so far as to say it’s not even about the woman I mean the woman could be even you could have an animal sidekick yeah it’s the locker room teamsportsinfo Conquest Rodeo really the woman has led to believe that she is some kind of star probably because she paid more and because they get these big following in our accounts on Twitter and everything like that and I guess in the head by saying I’m some kind of stuff I need an 81 why I guess they are well-known and they’ve got some kind of cute also attached to this to this identity this cast list these capitalists oriented identity by the porn industry but it’s not a thing you know they pay I would do double anal gangbang everything you want me to be you know the motherfuking the mud likes you’re going to get in the most fun as you’re going to get and the more you look like you know the least real you look for example the more plastic you look the more like a sex doll cost you all from who you are the more likes you’re going to get the more followers because you know you are becoming more because they are becoming the product tomorrow more so a product of this capitalist of this agenda this whole thing it’s like I know is that some some Theory or some the Inn of the three physical material body and the fact the oldest religion is visual vernacular every bubble industry we fix polymorphous party. It is doesn’t exist sheep you know she’s a hoe you know it is a patriarchal lens they can’t tell me it’s not a negative patriarchal lens that we’re seeing this is construct Define construct I agree with you and anybody who anyone who is a question with question anything you said so far at is that let’s put you in that position and then after you experience it you can talk about how you felt you know you’re assuming I call you when I have you and have anal sex while you’re going to get it from me first buddy you know what I mean you’re going to have to understand if you want to have any sensitivity you know if I’m going to trust you to be at all sensitive towards my body then you’re going to have to you know it’s going to be 50/50 and that’s a relationship you know so it’s it’s interesting to I would love to to do a social experiment on MythBusters for all the guys who think that this is just such an empowering you know deliberating in the position of the woman to see how I feel what is the other space printing if there’s plenty of protons who will strap-on and Peg guys senseless so you know it’s not like it’s not like they even have to be gay to do it to have the experience but it’s just putting it out there so but I dare I would dare the and then that you don’t have to say yeah actually this is horrific you know it’s his horrific painful psychotic evil and I love it or I hate it but they’re not going to they won’t have the app they won’t be a steward ignorant about what it would it really is you know you have to own that only that it is extremely harmful and would you show this to your child would this be in the stocking stuffers at the 13th birthday Christmas you don’t I mean if I don’t think so I mean there’s a lot of Shadow there that’s the question isn’t it I mean what you want your child car into this happy birthday on social media you know it’s kind of everyone’s like yeah sure and you know their parents in the I can do you see the parents stand the ancestors standing behind that meat puppet you’ve got their front of you or you just see the dollar signs in the Benjamin unit while you got a different different how your what’s your pounds right absolutely right yeah they’re seeing they’re seeing this this stack of money and they’re not honoring the ancestors and they’re not seeing their children you know the impact is going to have on their children do they want their children to be trying to perform these acts on each other example of a moral checklist that is is missing and So you you’re pretty well steeped in the in the arguments for I’m sure you’ve spoken to actresses who were sort of bought into it and are defending that that you know the Enterprise as it is and I’m sure you’ve spoken with and communicated with directors and producers who are defending all the stuff profusely and are you ready to talk about about how that’s that dialogue has been shaping for you the more kind of a couple of my friends actually kind of Frenemies guy on here is very active on social media and always willing to converse and I appreciate that because you know a lot of people shut things down but I don’t want to hear Echo Chambers me and he and he’s a producer over in England and he basically August with me quite a lot about the Emancipation the freedom of women and they supposed sexual Liberty that subscribe to women and pornography and how you know who do I think I am to stand there and end challenge that you know that’s his bicycle race in which he argues from I’m not that’s fine but you know if he wants that opinion and I’ve realized you know free might kind of experimentation if you like through my research for a social media which is a kind of spoke to all the women and the ones who like I get the M the law in a private message the law and I’m young goes to be honest with you and I’m really happy to speak to them and if I kind of say things like that wants me to go here you know this producer and this is his name and he does extremely sore neck strain that I’ve heard bad things about him should I go that kind of question is absolutely know if you heard anything about a different stuff you know what we’re talking about here I mean in the dialogue so what’s not addressed and what is actually the elephant in the room is is the Moto the system of the system of the Auto industry women get paid a lot more now this is why I defend it that day this is why I basically on social media in the public domain women argue with me and they kind of come at me with an attitude of who the hell do you think you are you know what you think you are and I’m like you know because I’ve got voice because I’m trying to make something with trying to rebuild my life until they rebuilding my life is being an academic that to me is my passion so I’m going to take that wife from me I don’t know these women know but you know that produces no I don’t care you know that ain’t going to take that away from me because that’s the one thing in my life for my kids so I can say you know all the crap talking further and stuff like that are so bright because I’ve been achieving but what do you think you are you know cuz I’m kind of like fully my passion and I’m having a voice about the industry so not only do I argue with produces with the women in the industry you don’t even want to open dialogue so yeah I mean it’s really it’s the reaction but generally employed and I understand the diner you know the dynamic of being in the industry the harbor certain amount of anger women not surprising you know you know that making a choice for the money I want mo money for the quicker time spent I don’t want to do the full week working a job and the hard work that kind of appreciation to come later that night that she was in the money I meant that they are full go in the ceilings and the destruction of intimacy that’s occurring within them through selling their bodies to let you know that anyone who comes along with enough cash to sexual violation and they got some great things never shops know that nice for nice houses might be in over their spot they both keep this going to go kick this cabin and so the cops see a while because the money and so everything I’m saying or suggesting even if it’s positive for example what the new suggestion it was not really know I’ve been going on for a while this alone it’s because I’m a very English Oblivion I tried to a few official people about this and it takes a lot of dedication and devotion and get this up and running but it was and if I can buy back their images from the internet you know of any other industry and what that does that allows the women after 10 years or 15 years even know how to transition into the public university college whatever just normal life opening up that children without being recognized and you eat it should be really easy it should be a simple program that you push a button and it just sucks everything away massive chasm in the Auto industry in eight states states is women are getting paid 500 quid in our new goes in the industry that there is a tie go what can be max hardcore at the moment and I take it she’s like a chain and she just used her real name and I was talking to her on the day and and and I said to her without you know it’s never too late to change your name you know because County Concrete Elementary back you can use it forever and it’s really extreme stuff at them your whole life ahead of you and she kind of like of the day I’m so I couldn’t see any tears or anything like that by felly on the voice of his coming through likes me now what can I do to sign bad for her because I’m so anyway so with the Auto industry about lease buyback proposal Isla is the women come with me and they say it’s not going to work it’s not going to work because because you know is I like how I know I don’t show it to eat it’s not you know you sometimes what about films we never thought the paper I said he’s not perfect but allows you to erase profiles and eventually the images images I’m sure you could have private investigator bounty hunters they could get you a huge settlements if you know I mean there’s already people for music and all other forms of media for copyright violations there’s a whole third-party industry cuz if the government’s not going to the government is not going to proactively enforce a lot of that stuff but there’s agencies out there that are private agencies that make money off of this bounty hunting of them content so you know reputation band what’s up, do the reputation real well it’s just it’s as if like for example if you’re a musical recording artist and somebody you know uploads your music to YouTube or some other place on the internet the government isn’t going to necessarily be tracking down all of those copyright infringement cases but there are now in the dussehra where you try to keep computer program that can scan and scour the internet and look for the the wave file or or the video you know would end the end of this match it and then a lot of Kellogg times now with they’ll do is actually figure out how instead of a lot of punitive damages or lettuce and you know trying to drag him into court they’ll just make it make it so they run ads you know so you’re what you have my content somewhere well we’re going to have to run ads on it and you know give the give a percentage of the money in the revenue to the artist and it’s all kind of being sorted out there’s big cases but you know I’m in the music industry that’s that’s there so obviously if you wanted to erase all that you would have for you know what’s the word a takedown policy enforcement you know so if you were to say yeah I’m I’m I’m declaring that I no longer want my likeness that it’s not that I no longer give anyone permission to put my likeness on the internet No Matter What by the problem with signing all those contracts as a model is that you sign your letting you know you’re selling your soul to the devil pretty much have to form a union for models and actresses that says we don’t ever signed more than the five-year you know term or something I mean but these these contracts are just in blood they’re just signing everything in Bledsoe I just blessed blessed to hear these these words be spoken and by you and and I’m curious if you would like to guide us through what your creative Works have been I know you’ve you’ve you’ve got too many directions since the book was released I’m curious what do you recommend people start to discover beyond the book that that you feel most proud of and and thank you yes well you know I do see the whole thing as a vagina you know I I I I came in at the bikini but I didn’t really know myself and spent the first part of my life and I think it’s natural for beings to do that to spend the first part of their lives the same who am I you know and trying to know oneself and in that way you differentiate you’ll pass from what has been necessarily conventionally and you you you choose especially if you’re a person just naturally go to the beat of everybody else and you know I know. Kini is now have been their name is being taken the for a specific kind of embodiment within the tantric but you know what they represent in essence is in at the embodiment of a feminine wisdom principal they are archetypes of wisdom wisdom which comes at you naked because it is naked it butt naked truth it’s not it’s naked it’s radiating blessed through every pore and it’s disruptive because it passed away all the things that you because I think you relied on and all those artifices and all that eager dramas she just Trampled Under Foot and lost and she’s drunk on the Blessed of share spontaneous being yeah in the other part of my life is full I discovered Tantra and the reflection that I came in just trying to see who am I and in that I said who am I and how do I fit into the culture that I find myself in and it’s my own self and what are the projections of others and how am I seeing and how do I see myself and all these things I was bringing into my experience of aunt and my aunt was I found the technique of collage and that was when I was doing my thesis of the surrealist artists map sons did a number of college books using old engraving and in those books he put together the Engravings to create seamless new world but they were very Fantastical you know people had wings and snake came out between the Pavements and the real encounters happen but now look like they were meant to be like that all the time but he’s instructed them and you couldn’t see where they looked. Together they were a new world and I said I thought you could kind of see make it look like it’s not. But it’s actually fuse into a new reality and you can also really joke people’s perceptions by bringing together the things they wouldn’t normally associate together but by the juxtaposition you to create this what they call it in there so am I use those those tools of collage and use the loss of images of myself had my own photo taken and put myself in that so that I could be both see the Muse and the one I mean the object of somebody else’s view but with photographic and then I also made three dimensional objects and I use those cool things in a lot of pieces life cost of myself my own head button and then like us about the people that was similar to using photographic call out your photos Honda back in 73 I had an exhibition code opening which was all about food and the roster so I’m bringing together you know that the body of woman with the whole idea of the table together in that and it was very shocking to people dressed up I had a whole wedding cake constructed I’m prevented myself as with a van everything adds the wedding cakes at the invitation for the exhibition it was in a being fully engaged in in in the eye and after that I forgot I started it went through for 7 years which was a major I guess you’ll call now to send what was that word wasn’t used at the time but it was me looking at all the skeletons in the cupboard I had a relationship with this filmmaker and we were meant to be doing all these projects together and it never really asked you fully manifest and then we broke up and it was my whole drama with woman’s theater group and my what with them kind of ripping apart their relationship and then I just had to process all this cuz I would say I’m sorry can I ask you something really quick I don’t want to cry or be a gossipmonger anything but I feel that the the Dynamics between creative creative relationships romantic relationships and those the way those play out the Ender play especially if there is I don’t know what that was in your case but I’m I’m really curious to see what wisdom you would have to share about you about using tantric skill sets and tools to harmonize human personality conflicts that’s a big big question a lot to to explore but if you were able if you were confronting these sort of issues were you able to at least somehow raise the vibration you know even if there are deal breakers and things had to be you know closed off but I’m just curious if you were successful at all and applying principles or by Christopher Hills my you know the person who built this property here he did a book called creative conflict which was all about heart-to-heart communication and about people needing to be hard I’m so it’s at whole dynamic between having an exchange with someone else but that person letting you know after you’ve spoken from your heart but they have understood it reflecting it back in their own words to you and that you do that back and forth and it actually creates a whole different kind of feedback loop the misunderstandings that often have a good exercise based on you know Christopher understanding of those principles a yogi eyes pop from being a western scientist animal and he was all these things wrapped together but that was a very good example of principles into the relationship Dynamic but for myself you know that it’s been so many different relationships and even oceans and you know how many dimensions the last to it and each one I’ve had a few major relationships in my life apart from many other relationship but as a few major ones you know that had bad that even a beauty and then Gloria and the agony and you know all of that and I always say there’s no such thing as my student so I like to think we’re all students protection is setting in the area relationship dynamic especially going to the mat the male-female dynamic at this particular time on the planet is in such a challenge in at the rest so many areas that go across because she knows you think of just love and attraction and vibration if you like you know that conventional I’m just you know that Dynamic the spice of life and energy vibrations which you know I make everything so complex and setting it this time the whole sexual identity is something that so you know I’m in the midst for what it’s going to be the next evolutionary stage of how we’re going to be able to manage male-female dynamic in a new way and of course you know the true Keys the Contra do do hold those keys because it is a true and which ones have it if you are able to hold that Crucible and a gaining and it didn’t. Do you have the real chance to be able to see the Divine in each other and bring the Divine fully into that invaded relationship and that you know it’s just the the Beauty and the glory and the end of the immortal France and get moving into our discontent touched any magical ways but at the moment I’m playing a lot of challenging in our relationship not only to each other but to a whole The Crucible of plant it up and down with her that you know that the interpersonal has to also be expanded I believe attitude tantrica to include the whole interaction with all of our natural world at this point and really bringing that into every meditation and interaction really because we can’t afford to lie if that helps eco-warrior and was all about planting gardens and saving trees and I still am now but I feel like what I’ve added to that with Tantra is just a ever-deepening reverence for creation and for the Divine the astral the Earthly Plains all the things we often take for granted I just want to be in that state of reverence and awe that I think most people achieve that when they go into the Great Outdoors and then go hiking or skiing they they have a tantric sort of shocked if acacian of there at least their parts of their system get woken up an activated unfortunately it doesn’t seem to be enough to make them into real hardcore activists a lot of the times but I feel like the there is an ecological agenda that is very transparent and very intrinsic to the path that that romance with with the life-giving fertility of this divine feminine and if you know a lot of people experience very direct communion with the wisdom intelligence and directives of Gaia through this practice so do you want to talk a bit about that kind of revelatory ecological revolution of Tantra if you will be glory after the sexual Revolution and I would save the kind of a cool resonance that I’ve I’ve told condemned presentation to some of her because I really believe especially in the cold vibration that she said we’ve got to start treating the Earth like a lover not like a mother and it when you treat her like a mother it’s you expect the mother to get unconditionally do everything for you and you don’t have to give anything back but if you treat it like a lover than you you know show that you have to give love to that lava and it says to a slow and so that’s an important shift and I think that’s a good thing to bear in mind and I had one time when I was in my twenties and experience with some strange object did Johnny and in that time I had what I still feel program the most orgasmic experience that I had when I had it I was just lying back on this massage table I wasn’t touching myself but I was having these orgasm just passed through my whole body and what I was feeling at the time I felt like I was body of the Earth has style and the every single every single of an insect’s wing and the slithering of the body of a snake and the rustling of leaves everyone going through my whole being beautifully spoken and who could not want to experience that who doesn’t anybody out there not enjoy orgasm it’s a very small number and to the to think that it can become such a flow state of being that level of Sensitivity I kind of almost feel like what most people are striving for when it when they’re trying to get off you know whatever gender or sex they may be is there their they’re basically trying to use friction sex or some sort of high-intensity friction contact in order to kind of chisel or sandblast or break through all this plaque that separating their nervous system and their chakra system from the cosmic Bliss that is a constant wave of orgasmic energy so the more you dissolve that plaque through right action through dharmik practice and purification of all kinds that are very well enumerated in the tatras you know an in yogic texts and Vedic texts there’s a path way to clean your stylus and get more of that orgasmic slow going and it’s definitely so abundant and not so scarce like everything else that we’ve been tricked about as far as the scarcity mindset vs. the abundance mindset so that’s just a follow-up that’s from me and and now that we’re coming to a close on time do you want to talk about some of the anymore highlights from your creative works that people should be looking for then about what’s what’s the current and future of an exorcism it was called and said some the book that I put out and that was trying to look at all these psychological States and and who am I and is that I could dance we both kind of psycho and then I come out at the house and then I have discovered time trip by this point and then I meet Nick Douglas as I say and then we went on to do another College book called man the next to see which was just a celebration of coming out of the confines of this black and white house and all the Western Heritage Inn in the Himalayas and just everything is one century psycho-spiritual play of of everything the profaned the sacred oil mixed together and it was a it was just we were enjoying and I wish I knew how to do, what a wonderful tool it was expecting this and that was that serious and then at the same time we did the secret dakini Oracle which was the 64 card Oracle system in systems put that out and that’s being around working since then then I went to to the Caribbean I was there for 15 years at I-10 and time got a long story short I realized I was there because of the embedded energy of the Arawak Indians whooping for alcohol Caribbean free Columbus and the Magical and pure kind of society who had been swept under the carpet of history and speaking to me and so I firmly believe that the indigenous way of life is the way of creating sustainability for the planet if we can start to embrace him understand that engage instead of in a friend that to the side as the Civilization V how to be in tune with the spirit and all things so that was my home to that way of life but I did for my portraits and they are like Indians in my time that and then I came back to America in 94 after I was I was here before that New York I was working on my phone from about the Arawaks and I finish that and then it was then that I met Christopher Hills and came here and then for the time here I am held a lot of events dr. Christopher past but she did the 97 to bring in the goddess energy and I still would like you to describe them when we talk to them right to coming on on on the car that you were interested in the way of using the energy that is that in these events and we’re all these awful waves so all that happening and I still while we can offer them to the goddess and then she can give her grace to us and doing for several years he has many people from the whole graveyard from performance thoughts and in the area bringing them in and having people get their offerings to Spotify and then one. I made the 64 that key Miracle which isn’t Eeveelution of the nlra but this time each of the energy that he needs and I have 64 Oracle and I hope to do a nap cuz if it can meet chat father and that is like a temple for the goddess and an Oracle phone just working on more three-dimensional pieces the game and coming back into a focus of customizing they oughta game having reached out to all the Divine archetypes imma come back into a more personal expression and now that I’m done now I just want to see you on tour with the museum installation with all this I’m not the biggest art Aficionado in the world but of course I’ve I’ve been a fan of Alex Grey and H R Giger and what I after this conversation I feel like I got a lot of catching up to do on on what you put out that I wasn’t aware of and I’m really going to enjoy it so it is a sort of a sumtur got some guidance that you could provide to say hey go and you know you can go to your website and in and just order purchase what you have or their YouTube videos or any other ways to access your go to website since I mean Menards.com has a broad spectrum of the word that I’ve been talking about and then 64 the numbers that Kenny. Org is where you can go to consult the Oracle and but also that the gallery of the images of the Thai King is there and then the Blue Lotus pod. Com which is rstudio site which has some videos and Son photography so those are few things that you can look at to start with and I haven’t all page on Facebook too with how about Instagram of you if you got on that platform say it took me a while because I just have so many projects and engagements of all kinds I didn’t want to be distracted by something that was another no platform of that nature however I am totally convinced now that it is one of the most strategic leverage points for anybody with the message or Consciousness that can create visual content it’s amazing I just thought of something I wanted to say and it was about relationship and resolution from a perspective that we were talking about mentioning my exorcism though that thing about The Break-Up and processing of the relationship and that’s what spurred our conversation about relationship with my partner at the time and next month or beginning of next month I’m going over to the UK to go to a conference and speak that that’s about this film makeup Peter Whitehead and over the last few years we can get back together in the sensitive film that we did at the time which type of being shown all those years and I was able to show that the Hayward Gallery in London and oh so I’m speaking at the conference about him because it’s a whole retrospect if they take him to the archives at this University and son a solution of some quite powerful can you describe it at all or just footage that we shot at the same time I did all these photographs that became the basis of the footage of myself and my girlfriend and Peter Shaw hit in this old derelict mansion house could love and it’s all just showing it Roar has it came out to the time off to all these years after 1969 that was shot and I guess this unit many takes but it’s like in this time the space that it’s like a magical experience that’s amazing so is there any hope that we will get this that’ll get to see a bigger audience or what do you have his first plants with that now is scheduled to reach a larger audience is a documentary that just being made of me he was young filmmaker Cove it started walking on it in 2012 when I was over in the UK I’m getting a tour at the gallery about my work and he was excited and said, I shouldn’t interfere with you and that interview grew into the documentary what she’s dressed now completed and it’s all of my early walk treat antra I’m in London and a relationship with a woman that hole. And it’s called Penny Slinger Out of the Shadows quite a good release coming up shortly support and Discovery and in the promotion and I’m definitely want to continue to explore in and talk with you about how to support the mission that that was laid out and and I feel like someday I will somebody will be calling me and asking me what was the story behind what brought me to interview and people like you if this is my contribution to the world and there’s just an ongoing interest and it’s so interesting to see to get this background and to have to really just go on a sort of a Time a Time trip into these you know these different points in in your creative history and really if I could just ask you a couple more questions before we before we call it a night do you have a couple more minutes being this kind of bridge through these was one of the things to me that’s very important in the manifestation of my life’s Mission if you like is to be able to be active and relevant at this time in my life when I am old and that the wisdom of the wise woman knows he didn’t pack anything back into society and that’s what he need so much to be able to swear I act now I’m not wanting to be Destin historical figure but I am for the active right now I love that thank you so much yeah that’s I’m so thrilled again that we’re having this conversation and I feel like the the need is is greater than ever to access the wisdom of the elders going back yuno thousands of years and the question I actually want to ask you who really is like the what the let’s see the shocked it country code is the goddess worshiping country cuz whether they would be considered on the left hand path of the right hand path or generally I think more realistically it was a it was a sort of he was ambidextrous it was an ambidextrous way to be in in in the shock to Tantra schools where you were dabbling we’re not doubling but really actually working consciously with Desire with with Will with your will and also with the Divine elements but hopefully with Integrity to Lenny’s trainings you would be in service to add a v or in the process so that you would be sort of putting yourself to work for the Divine will and getting your commission of the small things that your small mind actually wants in this small slice of the universe or the universe and if I if I simplify what the essence of the positive empowered healing Reverend Liberatore nature of of the more feminist Tantra is about purification of those parasites of the heart that you mention you know earlier and if if that was the intention back then against the forces that Humanity was up against at that time that they warned us the forces are going to get worse it’s the Kali Yuga World age and we’re going to be inundated with these negative entities once again the technology that you were exploring and has continued to explore and her still as you said ready to bring to the present moment at this time of absolute sexual Madness more than ever through porn the the question is it took me awhile to get to it but how do you advise the world now about the need for Tantra what are your what are your words of wisdom and take as much time as is you have pleased to give us some guidance now Where Do We Begin what do we focus on and prioritize if we have limited attention spans you know yeah please and that was about a left hand or right hand Tantra and as far as I’m concerned they only real difference in a kind of pacification is that the right hand is to do with meditative Union with say the daikini and the right left hand is to do with actually taking an inverted Shakti to realize that Union but it’s both to do with the inner Union with the Divine being and then the interesting cuz I had it seems so simple but I had a revelation between like tantric meditation and the meditation of other religious forms is you’re not sublimating that energy that section energy you actually using that but what the right hand while you’re using it but with this entire no. Can you actually making love with the internal. Kini so it’s it’s using everything rather than denying everything so I just really wanted to address that because when you say to balancing photos of course you know the play is at the Contra dealer is that Tina between the outer and inner and other call BNI it within the soccer not the gross body that’s why it’s called the second body the energy body where that is you know that that in a erotic channel of energy where in at the Statue of Santa up to the crown and it’s all one energy and I said that they that the blessed is when you envision and experience the union of Shiva and Shakti in the crown chakra meaning like completely in their territory around but fillet in the cellular matrix honey and milk into the Lotus at the hot and got us that and that is The Crucible and that’s if the dentist thing to focus on in the inner plane that’s it because it’s about the dog and dangerous about the dog that hot ass between me and have a claim and it’s true that you know list for meditation that you can stop with the chief Zach time does all the time male body vibrates but we’re actually wonderful wave energy that you are manifesting it’s that I want it that you’re tuning into it with the gift-giving wow so the right-hand and left-hand path are not antagonistic that’s an illusion make the pads Chrysler make an ex or something in a beautiful dress right as bad as it spirals as it should beautiful thank you for that clarification I think that’s going to help a lot of people yeah so so I’m dressing and red and white snake spider and around but you know the contract principle is to get that energy than going into the central Channel which just you know is this I’m at wave of infinity no bottomless and topless photos of spiraling into that Central Channel yes yes thank you so much it’s as beautiful as it’s no wonder that your visual artist because you’re you creating a beautiful art form in the Maginot just through the word so and yeah thank you for that I am very excited to see what you continue to develop and and I definitely feel like his you’re saying it’s if it’s if the wisdom that you’ve been carrying is not percolating through the generations the way that it it we would hope for it to then I want to be stepping up as somebody who who really makes effort to connect people who are interested in erotica and neurotic media and the wisdom teachings that that you you share to be able to access them so hopefully this is one small step in that direction with doing this podcast and I’m going to definitely look forward to just catching up in schooling myself in your work yeah any other things you want to share before we go tonight you are sending out many good powerful vibrations to everyone who possibly tunes into this that they fix that part of being that country Quiva of the own Destinies and put themselves in the center of that own mandalas so that they a defect not just cause at the same time of cost aligning to the Divine headlights in the sky but your fulcrum and your guide so that you are at course but your turkey day at effect of the goddesses well, all right good night thank you so much pain he will text you and take care, and click on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818 to 7515 3 or emo band at Country Park. 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The Path of a Holistic Porn Star with Felicity Feline TPP80

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Felicity Feline PicIn this episode I have the pleasure of speaking with holistic porn star Felicity Feline about her life journey of ecological consciousness, yoga, out door fitness, drumming, music production, motorcycling, plant based health and wellness, and much more. We compare notes about the state of the adult entertainment industry and the benefits of bringing a positive attitude and a purified mind, body, and spirit on set and on screen.

About Felicity:
A little about me – I am 24 years old, a plant-based nutritional consultant, drummer of over 15 years, a music producer, stage-dancer, yoga enthusiast, a blogger, writer and photographer, a promotional model, and actress. I am very easy to get along with and full of positive energy! I live a very pure lifestyle that includes a gluten-free, primarily raw vegan diet with vigorous outdoor exercise!

​​​​​​​​I am an established adult model with a variety of acting and promotional work experience as well. I have worked for a variety of different organic brands and have a multitude of experience in sales, promotional modeling, and demoing. I am extremely comfortable working with the public and standing for hours. I have worked for brands including Plant Fusion, Amazing Grass, Raw Revolution, Garden of Life, Runa, Questbar, Sunwarrior, Amrita, Armor Gel, and more!

I have trademarked my stage name and logo and also have a DBA. My brand is growing every day and I am looking to work with other motivated people.

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50 Shades of Green Sexual Permaculture TPP70

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tantra-punk-kali in this episode I’m joined by M.F.P. for an exploration of the new 50 Shades of Green Sektual Permaculture spoken word poem I recently released. I lay out the thesis and she affirms that sexual capital can and should be invested into ecologically honorable endeavors.

In a bonus segment, with permission I read an article by Jill Lawson called “50 Shades of Namaste” all about the parallel benefits and pitfalls of both Yoga and BDSM. It is very wise and insightful and helps balance out the discourse by owning and honoring our need to escape the ego by inducing altered states of consciousness. I agree that ethics are sorely needed to ensure integrity and relative safety in all of our attempts to learn and practice arts of transcendence.

Please visit her website to access more of her great works: http://www.jilllawsonyoga.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hot soft solar love massages the cold hard Earth providing energy with which the magic of Life can do its work producers consumers and decomposers unite transcending entropy by capturing and storing light for billions of years homeostasis was sustained resilient systems were not corrupted or defamed nurturing fertility was our Primal cultural dance only in recent times have we lost this ecorattic Romance the tyranny of disease you go with men has made the worship of women on Earth but deadly sin Empires built on the enslavement of creation damning arrows and nudity with commercialization to reclaim the natural state of Shameless Loving Grace we must admit sexual energy flow within our nation states on the surface it may very well seeing its men in business suits who have the rains but I am for you to dig deep beneath the facade and. never that it is women who are still truly in charge behind every good billionaire there’s a great dominatrix don’t be fooled by the lies of the Matrix is simple and small-minded power games his inability to manage his Primal lust and rage leads him chronically in shambles at the end of long corporate office days where does he go to escape his own Rat Race maze to the femdom goddess Temple to be put in his place so my fellow equal Warriors of the light it’s time for the ballbusting Doms to be revolutionized they are the true power Brokers behind the scenes to the walls of smoke-filled rooms CEOs are chained the problem is not a lack of philanthropy by the 1% it’s the seed packet deficiency on Dom’s Amazon Wish lists we must organize and Prem Mathai the Doms only then will the new paradigm trickle-down the highest point of Leverage is not The Ballot Box it’s the Doms Twisted grip on politicians imagine a sexual permaculture design where we value of the marginal and observe what we’ve been dyed kinky sex makes the world go round let’s harness that energy to get our project off the ground and more mainstream sectors of factory farm bus from billboard ads to hardcore porn that disgusts there are many opportunities to obtain ethical yields by owning and honoring the way we don’t really feel we want to worship naked human flesh tear off each others clothes and have ownable like group sex country cuz pornstars and streetwalkers alike have fought for their sexual human rights the most there still Outlaws persecuted by the religious right and vice the problem is the solution if you dare ask me with ecosystemic thinking we can perform sex work legal case precedent protect us from being regulated or taxed for bartering time for all types of consent relax certainly favors who’s the term the judge will choose to Define legal space for time Banks to use now for those who remember chapter 14 we are obliged to hack invisible structures for ecological game how about a game of random assembly so we can see how disparate elements my dovetail in Synergy as much as we’d all like Joe sixpack to come along chances are a food Forest will never be planted in his Frontline he’s just too busy jerking off to porn now what if the time bank knocked on his door and offered him an evening at the goddess temple with the pornstars he adores what would he do to her in such a blessing would he give that song. Alarm sheet mulch top-dressing I have proven my theory over the course of years painting myself to cougars and bears the lust for my love has gotten any fruit trees and packets of seeds it is very few sugar daddy financiers that the erotic equalution needs to line the pornstar Pockets behind the scenes so they can work and volunteer capacities serving horny time bank wildest fantasies we can take the point and pimp Industries down by taking care of her thin people in a manner that said decree sound once the international Army of satisfied men has been built we can put our soldiers to work forever abolishing shame and guilt if you don’t like seeing three nipples crotch and ask what have see need to wear a blindfold or mask the only bikini style you need produce is one to cover your eyes if you so fear being seduced women’s free-flowing erotic power will no longer be damned to build your Empire Towers if we must fight to the death to free the nipple will do whatever it takes to stop you from ever again burning our temples I vow to host a nude PDC before I die one that will probably be taught by girls on his women who no longer promote suicide please show teach their drooling fans ecological design the talent show is and practicum will be erotic and divine some claim with disdain look found her to be approved but perhaps it is the movements Destiny to shamelessly ensure that the ninth form of capital gets reinvested back into the Earth hello David Lopez welcome to Township on podcast episode number 70 I’m here again with magic fucking pussy and we’re going to talk about new track I just released the spoken word piece that’s called 50 Shades of Green sexual permaculture and first let me ask what did you think about a hearing for the first time I thought it was the way it flows it’s just that I’m in the house settle at your poetic you know I guess phrases of men to architecture where thank you very much yes mfp you were my executive editor you you know make sure that my crazy musings are streamline for Primetime in the mainstream coming from the doctrine of the top of the of the Pyramid of the entertainment world really you know so you would know how to if you share my material within your network that’s a huge endorsement because it’s like such a you know Elite kind of set of tastes really so you know if it can’t be too hippy Tupac you know to out to out there too far out so you know this is something you know you everybody of course but it has hopefully a universal cross-cultural appeal to what we’re all sort of thumb heartbroken over and really suffering from which is sexual sexual exploitation by Financial sanctions legally sanctioned Financial Enterprises you know on all levels in its mentioned in there were talking about we’re in permaculture design you learn about the notion of an energy audit and you learn from the study of systems theory and and and human ecology and a lot of other integrated disciplines of science and engineering and ecology all sorts of different sources of information and interdisciplinary holistic approach to sustainable human development design and the energy audit and understanding Energy Systems it’s really about understanding that on Earth solar energy comes down from the Sun it gets photosynthesize by green plants at the producer level of the ecological food chain in that light that’s first made into sugary energy for life to exist at the at the below the lowest levels then is sort of bounced around like a pinball up the food chain in a way that is anti in Tropic the the tendency of heat heated particles in the universe has to slow down and to cool down and therefore it stop radiating and to just become a nurse in to essentially dissolve break apart in and into its initial or into its smallest Parts if I’m if I’m understanding the physics correct that may be butchering this but essentially the idea is we live in this beautiful magical planet that takes the sunlight and it creates all these intricate webs where it it it it keeps this Vale of energy going so that it can continue to be trapped and captured and stored in an in transferred up between organisms without it just degrading so that’s why we get to exist as top predators at the top of the food chain that that we are simply would argue that were omnivores or herbivores I believe that you know our teeth are pretty good indicators that were not biologically designed to be at the top level of the food chain has Predators with binocular vision so obviously you want to say hunter gatherers gather Hunters not going to make any commentary on you know the but whether or not they’re the ethics and morality of veganism out I’ll just say that you know where we are in our natural habitat we are a very balanced interconnected part of the food chain and we are the most beneficial element in any ecosystem where we’re doing what nature design is to do which is one prime directive one one job description scatter seeds with your shit that’s the only thing we’re really meant to do is as mammals do you know and so they can do that and the Amazon rainforest will be the byproduct of appropriate human habitation of landscape we will extend the forest we will nurture and cultivate and imbue instrumental in ending conducive to fostering conditions that create more life being a part of that bouncing of that pinball the volume of the energy up and turn up so ever more magnificent forms of life can be produced and we can conserve the energy and doesn’t just get burnt off or lost in inefficient poorly engineered human artificial systems or just lost into the atmosphere for whatever reason is to be called a heat sink so that’s in a nutshell what we’re talking about human ecology permaculture approach to systems thinking and the and the energy flow audit so if you if you look at a system and you say okay here are the system elements that has inputs and outputs and all of these design elements in between that make certain functions happen to certain elements that are performing different functions and duties and you want to be as the designer is the engineer of a system you want to have Minnie minimize the input maximize the output do more with less I always optimize efficiency and innovate and you want to be able to identify those weak points in the system where energy literally is is escape and it’s not doing its work properly and that can be you know psychological problems like you have people in the workplace who are have really bad diets and you know you could change that system by putting it like I heard one corporate office they’ve be put in a vending machine and they had all the candy bars be like two bucks and then they had the fresh fruit be like 15 or $0.20 or $0.25 or whatever and it totally changed the energy of the system of their office so that’s understanding energy flow in any system so what permaculture has been so successful and so profound really are doing is is auditing the energy systems of Agriculture monoculture agriculture obviously and really indicting the inefficiency and the loss of potential energy by us flattening or agricultural Landscapes into a one-dimensional one crop one-year-old once-a-year Dead Zone grave yard of soil death of the entire ecosystem whereas if you think fourth dimensionally and you think three-dimensionally you can stack vertical layers of crops that that fruit and produce vegetables and yields at various times throughout the year and you can intelligently stagger though so that you have multiple varieties of the same type of fruit and then you have different meals throughout the year so you so the idea is if you added that the energy coming in its all full times coming down from the Sun every bit of vertical space if you imagine it if you build a trellis all the way to the top of the atmosphere that’s the best that the sky’s the limit as far as how much green leafy solar panels we can put out there to capture the vertical solar energy and if we taper that you know in a diagonal pattern we can create the natural Forest Edge effect that you see any time you go from a prairie or from a grassland or a beach you know to into where there’s Forest is going to be a great e h a gradient of vertical vertical diagonal gradient going into where it’s dis the dentist close canopy the area that’s the forest edge okay so we want to be intelligent with capturing and storing energy we want to audit in efficiencies in the use of Natural Energy we have it so abundant no one should be starving no one should be lacking medicine no one should be like in shelter the Earth is a forest production machine and when we align with it and we help it and we facilitate it it will provide all of our needs just like Bare Necessities just like the Garden of Eden we need to have one line added to the end of the Bible that says and you should go replant the Garden of Eden and stop you know lamenting that that you were kicked out of it go replanted that’s the promise of permaculture so that was you know that that was my sermon about it you know right there but what I have done and what my life is forced me to do as a permaculture designer who discovered you know late-in-life how deep my sexual trauma it’s when you know a lot of what I had sealed off being a teenage prostitute being a child no victim of child sexual abuse you know that didn’t really like obviously working in nature working in permaculture is extremely healing for survivors of any type of trauma and Anna was being very nourished by the natural Prana and feeling you know very important very useful very adored and loved by all the plants and animals that I cared for and also being you know cherished and celebrated by my community as a you know an up-and-coming kind of whippersnapper you know in the face in the movement in the field where was at locally and I feel very good and I was able to stay way above my trauma PTSD you know depression anxiety paranoia whatever feeling safe being nestled in my food Forest Gardens very very nice experience well you know as they got more to Tantra then things started to and psychedelic Shamanism then you know a lot of the the ones we’re ready had the support and love they needed to really be addressed and work through and so that kind of crippled me and my career and I dropped almost everything in my permaculture career to get deep into psychedelic shamanic tantric Sexual Healing work and as I have come you know light years through all of that and then like I’m getting back on my feet with permaculture I have really like some insights that I feel I would have never been able to talk about you know with my permaculture colleagues because like in any other field sex is in the shadow and there’s a lot of sexual predatory behavior going on by you know men and you what you can might call the old boys club of permaculture World why there’s like a lot of you no complaints that I hear and I’ve witnessed a lot that I feel like is really Shadow sexual behavior is not consciously being you know brought through the surface and a healthy way and so there’s there’s wounding happening in the movement because of that you know different kinds of you know transgressions mainly by mail piano teachers in and just just threw out the movement you could say it’s a lack of feminist training that’s kind of what I thought about it I think it’s just more it’s just an art just another archetypal example of where you have sexuality that is not healthfully processed in a community or in a movement and it’s not really the energy flow of sexual energy is not audited and we’re not designing for and with the energy although I will say that the the Duke of permaculture who shall remain on name for the purpose of this you know that are for this in the context of this podcast I’m just only going to refer to him as to do Capri go to Paducah permaculture Maiden us to point that’s part of this my sexual permaculture energy audit thesis and that was that what it ain’t no chicken needs at chickens need other chickens you know they need us for Deathbat dust bath in Need You Know food shelter always sings what what do interns need what are woofers need on a farm you know they need other interns are other woofer is because they need to have that access that sexual access especially if they’re in the age of being between high school and college at are doing some college programming to take some time off their primary you need is other interns to engage in you know there I don’t want sound like Doc Brown hear what rhythmic ceremonial rituals and they just need to get their freak on that’s just how it is at designing for Sexual Energy that’s intelligent design if you don’t design that way you’re going to have loaners that get bored and leave and don’t do the job they want to do cuz you’re too sexually frustrated you know so did this is one element of thinking this way so if you know anybody who’s taking the PDC permaculture design course you know has ecological design training from any sort of any way of learning about it it should be it should come natural to to be able to to Grass what I’m talking about here so my permaculture redesign of human sexuality on Earth in the 21st century is is really what I’m in dieting here in this track and I guess Huffines a case of this is funny a few couple funny things happen while this during this process one is that because the last line I make a United statement about our our beloved co-founder who is noted for having said some pretty some people would say perverted some people would say you know just I’ve seen some people might stay just hyper-sexualized but yeah you don’t have to watch too many of the global Gardener series or the grave danger of falling food there’s you know there’s there’s there’s moments you know where you’re like him well how do I feel about that but I will tell you what after watching the official 72 hour course that was produced as like a set of DVDs quite a few years ago there are shocking moments in that and they’re also really Redemptive moments in that where you know important statements are made about how you know it’s well-known that men have been wrecking the planet and are to blame and are the culprits and it is patriarchy and we need to honor women as the holders and keepers of plant knowledge and wisdom and it’s the real power Brokers of sexual energy to give us life they give us pleasure they nurture us they have the compassion they’re fully activated you know in those ways and so this imbalance that’s caused I mean this the founder the co-founder of this movement has no love for the man and the tyranny of women animals nature I pretty much feel pretty solid about that based on my studies of his works and so whatever little moments he has if being a perv that people might point out I think it’s counterbalanced by that deeper truth but because I was expecting to you know defend this thesis a little bit I went to go look up a part and I was trying to find the part where he talks about how women women harvesting water chestnuts is quite a stench bending over harvesting water chestnuts is quite essential experiences I think or something to that effect which you could say is he’s a goddess worshipper he’s endearing and he’s not ashamed to enjoy what’s natural to him which is the pleasure of that it was quite sensual you know I don’t personally take to do defensive that but I’ll say I just wanted to find that citation to be able to you know say hey look this is not the first one to be sexual in permaculture me so as I’m going to look that up what do we discover on the video of the global Gardener in the tropics what do we discover in this we discover that there was a very erotic porn spliced into that Sheen yeah that was interesting to say the least yes I was shocked and Disturbed to find that this video and support bloke with his mother-in-law and children were watching it and then had this like Fight Club Tyler Durden moment if somebody is placing frames of pornography into family films I don’t know who was watching Fight Club when they did that hack job on this video but the guy even says in the comments on YouTube like you know he says I watched it a few times already and it wasn’t in there now I know how YouTube works and it looks like it was an old VHS thing it looks like somebody was trying to record something off of cable and they didn’t know what tape was in and they pressed record and then they for a minute they were in they realized they stopped it but it just doesn’t make sense I really hope that it’s not like some Illuminati conspiracy and they’re taking you know whatever it is that actually figuring out a way to hack these phones hack hack people’s video files on the servers without deleting free uploading and then you know that resetting the counter and all that stuff as far as I know you can’t do that but that one of the comments did say he said that he watched it several times and they must have just recently added it so yes it’s scary I know it was the way that it comes in and out is totally classic I remember this you know if you’re dumping tapes on VHS so it had to have been done a long time ago but I don’t know if they swapped with some else who knows who or what happened you know but this is like so telling to me because my thesis for a while has been you know my medicine work my tantric healing work everything it’s it’s it’s made me realize that it made me wonder why was I sexually abused why was I engage in prostitution is a street punk you know it’s 13 well it all comes to ecological economics and all I wanted to do you know when I was on the street was go live in a forest Shaolin Temple and trained in martial arts and training for the revolution liberate people in in like reclaim the land that was my fantasy you know I was at a youth drop-in center and this college intern staffer she asked you was on an assignment was like ask all the street kids what would $5,000 sound like a lot back then she said if your if you if we gave you $5,000 as a thought experiment you know but you had to get off drugs and you have to get your head to get the street what would you do so she gave me like a blue sky budget you know scenario and I said I would go and live in the woods and build a Shaolin Temple martial arts Warrior training camp in like live out my you know revolutionary Syfy Rambo Kung Fu fantasies and raise a whole generation of Warriors that was what I want to do and like pretty much I’ve been on a mission doing that ever since I got the street but you know the what what is that indicate and then when I was in the street I would go in these horrible states of psychosis you know like a bad trip on steroids from meth and go and the only way I could outrun the demons and the the madness was to find some pristine piece of nature so I found this forest and park and I would go there and literally all of the Shadow entities would not be able to make it through that Prana forcefield I can get in and they couldn’t follow me and I found peace and I have beautiful journal entries about that so you know Earth repair edible reforestation food for staying in the urban and rural and Suburban environment is going to bring in so much health and healing is going to buffer all these forms of abuse and exploitation I so that Journey let me just thinking like okay how do we accelerate the Greening of our reality so that we can mellow people out and make some of these Predator entities like have a harder time I mean when you put in the projects and there’s no nature around you’re giving human souls and human sexual sex chakras all that how you know there’s plenty of would have talked about in previous episodes of basically you by design your setting up conditions conducive to sexual predator entity infestation and when you design natural buffers you inhibit that pressure and you you’re creating it’s like you want to address the issue of mosquitoes you have to make design improvements to deal with that or if you want to buy for any predator pressure any pathogen you going to have to design for it so we’re living in human environments that have been designed for predation of sexualities and not against so to start we need to start growing food again now how do we a movement going where people stop participating in porn and pimping and prostitution and stripping and all these things that just deplete us and feed the the dark Realms well I don’t know how to motivate people to care about nature that you know it’s like if I had big breasts in a big old perfect you know Grill and it was a blonde hair blue-eyed Woman by God I could have the whole earth wrapped around my finger overnight if I say you can have a little I’ll let you peek at my nipple if you go plan a thousand trees and everyone would do it and overnight the world would be perfectly Retreat that’s sexual Capital the ninth form of capital and all of that power that a woman has to have men who worship her that’s a cult of tits and ass is the world the really really live in so the power that a woman has to broker for access to her sexual Temple whether it’s visually or with hands or with genitals that power is really the most that is the most powerful force within human culture. It is a woman’s erotic power and the illusion of patriarchy is that men run the show in fact they don’t run the show men are feeble-minded chimpanzee brained chakra deactivated Bistro morons that rely on the intelligence of women for everything and that goes back to being an infant but what’s going on that this poem is trying to point out as an audit of sexual energy in a permaculture way women still have the power it’s still a matriarchy and we are in fact I get to bring it in here for a second so you were the one who told me about how this is essentially a financial matriarchy because sexual capital is design in a way that’s actually serving women here in Las Vegas you want to talk about that was just what I know yeah that women make more in Las Vegas the dancers make more the strip clubs the cocktail waitresses make more than the male host at night clubs women bartenders make for more than male bartenders and I even heard that even the laws were skewed in favor of women and I don’t know why that is that’s just somebody somebody told me that randomly just that you know if you were to get a divorce it always favors the female in Las Vegas and that was to protect the women but you know Grant even the favor so yeah you’re right it’s the women hold the power here Ocean City why because men come here to worship women’s flesh and that’s Unholy and people with greed and lust for money have created legally sanctioned Enterprises to meter out women’s sexual access to woman’s body temples on all levels that ho it’s all this is this this entire economy is the case study for women truly having all that power yet being sort of mine fucked in foot bound to not organize together that’s the problem just like in the chimpanzee societies this is so interesting okay so I went to the dominant Force enlisted you had to tell us will drop us into your world of where you spent you know how you spent eight years in the belly of the beast of the whole Enterprise okay so from my perspective Las Vegas coming from y e Las Vegas to me was glamorizing the adult fun of things of over sexuality tight fitting clothes know nobody’s judging anyone you know we’re here to party have some drinks go to some clubs meet some new people you know take some risks and live it up and you know then go back to our boring lives so you know it’s very liberating for me to see that and see these empowered women but also it’s kind of a false empowerment because then you see the strip club managers or the men that actually keep them around a type of leashes I don’t know of whatever dysfunction has led them to to sell their bodies I think so cheaply in Indus Tastefully so that’s where the whole city of sin and comes from the soo easy to point B like sin and you know it’s like it’s mainly The Flash cuz we drink in every city you know and it’s you know you can gamble too and gambling supposedly a sin is it really I don’t know but yeah so you know I worked I was married to a very successful independent host basically a VIP concierge where you know we booked club club venues Show tickets some you know whatever seats they wanted or whatever it was you no recommended restaurants in that was a part of glamorizing it the power of sexuality but in a in a way that was it was not morally good in the end because it was promoting the wrong type of entities and energy than facades you know and so X Punk makes a great point that if you are somebody that is sexually liberated and you’re promoting offense in you know that at least at least trying it baptized that energy and I know that you promoted life and in plants and you know free food for all you know you want to look at these breasts you want even maybe touch them let’s see how many plants you know entries those strong arms can plant you know and then you know you know that you were promoting the right type of energy and and then you can go on with your life you know sure take your clothes off all right you know work it be you’re now representing a more powerful Movement by promoting something good thank you so much for taking us on that little journey there yeah it’s such an interesting irony that this is the financial matriarchy where there is more permissiveness around celebrating female sexual power yet it is still pimped still pimp kosher essentially it’s still a pimp culture where it’s like wait a minute you know the reason that chimpanzees are patriarchal rapist domineering male-dominated societies is because they had to they were in a region in Africa in the jungle where gorillas occupied the niche of the ground level of the forest which made it a form of competition so that everyone in the chimp sort of societies males and females they were dispersed throughout the canopy so they were all loners right which made it more of a you know everyone for themselves kind of social ecology or while kissing me to call you but MD we’re susceptible to the attack of mail so males literally evolve to be these extreme brutes and an extended extremely violent Society with lots of murder sometimes cannibalism and definitely lots of rape and persecution of old young homosexual women by the alpha males and the reason that is is because of that that Mitch being blocked of being able to be on the ground now the our closest primate cousins the bonobos they did were lucky enough to be in a region where they could have evolved culturally where there wasn’t the competition of the girls in the ground so what did that allow for it allowed for women’s Sisterhood Circle to be the governing councils that actually totally a manicure the Eagles of the males like bonsai trees and they would barter food they eat first they are the Matrix they eat first and they would barter sexual favors for food like oh you want you want some go get me that that do come and go get me some bananas man come on give give me when it’s not that it’s not that men you know spoiling women with gifs trying to earn their affection as they all do you know I mean that’s not wrong it’s not wrong to exchange energy for it’s not wrong to exchange some form of capital for a sexual Capital exchange what’s wrong is when men or pimping off of that exploiting it and taking the huge cut and exploiting and beating and brutalizing women taking away the opportunities when women are in control like Madam’s at a brothel that’s sustainable and regenerative let’s say there is a matriarchal political structure and Men actually have to earn access to what they really want and more than to just be beating each other up mean that’s just too exhausting and tiring and it did baboon studies that show it’s like they’re they’re all dying or killing each other to stress hormones I mean this male dominance hierarchy thing it’s like if you want to devolve into that state you know you’re a sorry fool because bed the better life is the life run by women where the men are trusting in their intelligence their collective intelligence to govern and manage society and you will get more and better sex if you fall into that power structure that we have lost almost all knowledge is Hamlet so because it has been almost through almost to be eradicated there still the galuteria societies left on the planet there still bonobos left from really what we need to do is look at how I mean this is my face it’s okay so you can do whatever you want take it or leave it but for those interested in you know why I have produced this track and what the thesis behind it is that you know we we we I feel compelled to you know if he’s okay so going to say going back to where we saw that that porn clip come into the permaculture video It’s So telling because what I haven’t seen a few years is like okay and it started when I went to I was at the top of my permaculture career was on the Joan Rivers show doing Joan Rivers backyard permaculture installation on her reality TV show top of the game for me and we went my partner the time we went to to a high-end Hollywood producer one of the top production companies there and we laid out all of our materials you know our portfolio we wanted to see if they would be interested in doing a reality TV show is amazing property were developing totally like wholesome permaculture makeover you know something that we thought we could you know just getting traction on so we went and we did a presentation and the dudes like and he’s a friend to he needs like you know what sorry guys this is great and everything but you just need to make permaculture sexy because not going to sell otherwise and it’s funny because I’m not going to say who it was but somebody who is a top-level permaculture person who I would be intimidated to even ever talk to her approach found me on LinkedIn and look Tucson my working and that’s all there was energy alignment I said you actually I’ve been out of the game for a while I’ve been working on you know actually adult entertainment stuff and it’s interesting because it seems like there’s going to be some way that I’m going to actually do what people talk about his make permaculture sexy and she’s like yeah that’s what everybody you know using the expression in terms of just making it mainstream but really like I I was told in no uncertain terms if you wanted to be mainstream it’s not just a figure of speech it’s got to be sexy so I did the survival women project you know equal educational erotica modeling thing that’s on the website now under the tundra task force where I’m offering to pay you know bikini models porn actresses fashion models Runway my would ever do something be engaged in ecological service work and I’ll actually I would be happy to pay you more because if it’s $100 an hour or an hour of nude photography then I think you know we could do a lot of wicked that is a key leverage Point not to be able to say we’re going to bring ecological skills and values into what where people’s eyeballs are already glued you know what I mean so they’re looking at their I can’t get people to join you know me to go plant trees you know in the neighborhood cuz they’re all jerking off to porn or they’re all watching the Kardashians or whatever they’re addicted to this mediated meter doubt commercialized pimped version of female sexuality and I’m out there going hey guys fun good times you know ecological service where he is Holy hey it’s spiritual you know it’s antidepressant it’s good for everything like I’m too busy with my mind in the gutter doing this you know shadowy self you know pleasure extremely like negative patterns of a self erotic stimulation is happening with all the stuff and it’s like okay if finally dawned on me or I do to make them go to Stacy fucking I’m going to go and I’m going to get in porn and I’m going to get higher the models and be like okay see when I was standing behind you with the protest sign you know same plant trees and save the Earth and you were paying attention cuz your eyes were glued to the porn screen now I’m just going to walk right around and get into your computer screen and come into your entertainment medium with my sign saying are you now can you see me okay now or never pay attention now the problem is who wants to look at you know Silly old me well there’s quite a few me all gay men that I’m doing quite well with you know sponsoring me to do what I’m doing but the exponential Capital value is in the heat of the women who are the most 5 million followers in Instagram Barbie fembot women who are posting nothing but pictures of them self in different little cutesy poses with nothing to say nothing to promote and just a few products to sell and buy goddess as I’m glad to see more holistic stuff more you know yoga models and raw food and vegan models that’s wonderful let’s take that power that these women have an invite them and hire them to actually engage in useful educational beneficial ecological service work as some percentage of what they do on their portfolio and it’s not like we’re asking him to do it as a favor it’s cheap to pay them to do it I haven’t talked into models who were at the peak of their game you know Big Time cover you know everything you could ever dream about being and really I don’t know if they don’t last that long or what it is but it’s like they’re not unapproachable they are the key leverage Point more cheaper than getting celebrity endorsement of a non-profit do you know any cars or something like that I don’t know what they charge or how you get through how do you get to the people’s like go on Model Mayhem and say what I did I hope I’ve got a hold of some very powerful you know modeling you know Divas who are very interested in possibly being a part of the paradigm shift so you know it’s kind of like yeah okay this proves my freaking point if we don’t get in here and we don’t start sorting this out for people healthy natural ecosexuality opportunities to earn love and pleasure you know by being in service it’s just going to eat Us Alive you know so it’s like if it’s there’s no escaping this like curse that happening we’ve got to take a stand and we’ve got to make better more wholesome erotica and I just made that to Eco sexuality video you know that is it sound like ecosexuality YouTube channel basically depicting what it feels like to be to be sensual and nature how was just an ongoing beautiful pure easy orgasm it’s a constant orgasmic Flow State and you know what I have a joke about BDSM Sy call this Fifty Shades of Green it’s like a oh you saw this to you saw the picture disturbing I can do it is first. Yeah you should explain it I have some you know crazy scars on my chest whenever when I go to the hospital they say you know they say are you do you need to be in a psych ward looks like you’ve been cutting herself like now that was some BDSM that I did when I was you know younger and punk rock relationship and Stephen like oh what’s Woody time I like to think where this way was like it was like a self-styled tribal initiation you know scarification ritual Rite rite of passage right and I like okay I guess you know what time we’re not crazy the irony is just today right after I posted this track I have a a former lover friend send me pictures of some of the you know BDSM Kink stuff that we did many years ago were these scars came from and you see the essentially the the the botched attempt to make meaningful you know tribal initiation rites of Passage through pain and scarification and everything is so I bring that up because for one is after it happened right there and you saw it it’s like definitely you didn’t know who you were you didn’t I mean that what erotic sensual feeling could those slices on your skin possibly evoke it didn’t look loving it didn’t look pleasurable it looked like a distraction from something more painful it’s like a the emotional pain Works its way to the surface one way or another if you don’t give it dancing singing and dancing and tribe love and like gardening then it comes out as a rash of this kind of activity so you know you know how ya so this idea about what I’m addressing here where the sexual Capital lies its most concentrated in the female dominatrixes and even and even more so in the financial Nexus there’s this Paradox because part of me who is trying to promote ecosexuality is saying we can unkink are Kundalini energy with 50 shades of green if we go out into nature orgasm comes much easier when you’re surrounded by a beneficent ecological spirits and all of the sensuousness and beauty of a natural setting your not saying your partner G we’ve been having a lot of you know rough sex in the apartment and it’s kind of boring and kind of over it can you like beat me senseless with a hammer so I can get off because I’m numb or can you choke me half to death because I can’t have an orgasm unless you do that and then it’s like oh how do you know what honey why don’t we find a place to go and try having sex outdoors and oh well we can’t cuz it’s illegal in there be a looky-loos and there’s no there’s nothing conducive in the modern reality to that experience so people are stuck in these torture chambers of sexual relationships where they start to dabble with the stuff and believe me I have the scars to show it and I don’t think I don’t look kindly upon the entities behind sadism I really don’t and I’ll leave it at that for now but the paradoxes that you know the women who have the most power still despite the illusion of patriarchy and male dominance and all that economic advantage and Tim culture the most powerful men are being Twisted by the ball as by the balls by the financial dominatrixes who are sucking them dry of their money and giving them orders and really if you want things to trickle-down Eagle by Jayco value to trickle down from the highest point of Leverage it’s about bringing the Doms into this ecological Paradigm and there’s a beautiful female dominatrix predom who is a advocate of bondable Rights and is talking about these parallels between the potential of femme dom to really be the bridge to a more sustainable holistic natural power dynamic between the Sexes that’s going to really change mail destructive behavior and get you know Make Love Not War that’s what the promises of that so you know the the transmutation the Tantra that the permaculture than the night form of capital really is its if we intelligently designed and look at where this energy is dammed up and we burst that damn and we let the female erotic energy and power flow freely and we give them the the space the females of space to actually coordinate and design with that power so they can use sex strikes as a leverage tool to get men to stop fighting and Wars that’s been done historically which is a beautiful tactic you know it can be the the idea that oh you want to cop a feel while here is a way for you to earn that access want you plant these this many trees and then I will allow you to do that in a ceremonial contacts on the full moon in a ritual where you’re going to notice. Some training and you’re going to be assertive disinfected so you can be trusted there’s a million ways that we can honorably respect and revivify the true natural healthy holy worship of the beauty of the female form and the male form but let’s be honest here we know what makes the world go round and it is kinky sex and it is most of all not the mail Dom’s that are running that show either it’s the female dimes you know who are making the most money and you have the CEOs and politicians in the warlord’s by the fucking balls so enjoy this track and you know if it resonates with you and then you know who knows where we’ll be by the next next time we come back to this issue but I feel like it’s you know the mission was validated you know seeing that porn clip come in it’s like okay man this is on the war is on you know we’re either going to fight back and bring a better Paradigm regenerative sustainable appropriate sexual capital expenditure and exchange systems or we’re going to be torn asunder so thank you very much anyway less words in a fee I just want to come in again how how beautifully written that was and it’s one of my favorite so far I’d say it might take number one so thank you for making that everyone out there thank you for listening and Aloha and God bless this article by Joe Lawson 50 Shades of Namaste exploring yoga and sadomasochism I reached out to her and I got permission to read the article in full so I think it is very apps to close this conversation says the first time is terrifying yet life-changing you will be instructed to take off your shoes and strip down to Bare Escentuals if you have the courage to look around you will see men and women contorted and grotesque positions with various limbs bound and tied you will lie back while someone spreads your knees and ties your ankles to your hips with a stiff canvas strap a sandbag will be placed over your eyes and you’ll be instructed to breathe through the discomfort perhaps it happened in a hot room swamped by life malleable bodies beat it in perspiration you were commanded to bend over you felt a set of hands clutching your hips guiding you further into compliance flushed and receptive you kept a steady gaze and held your position until the next set of instructions bondage and discipline coupled with dominance and submission is commonly seen as the masochism it is practiced as a way to ironically unshackle us from the pain of life if we look closely yoga is not that different both employed techniques to free the Mind from suffering both incorporate means to transcend pain and experience pleasure both involve a close relationship between a teacher and student both share the ultimate goal of attaining higher States Of Consciousness and Bliss we all have an innate desire to be liberated from the struggles of Life Carl Jung believe there is no coming to Consciousness without pain as a society that runs from Agony straight into the pleasuredome it is hard to believe anyone would voluntarily gravitate toward pain but we do and it is helpful for some being bound tide and told what to do is just a type of discomfort we need to set us free pain is in the pain is a necessary way to enhance pleasure Beyond promoting the release of endorphins and other pain-killing hormones pain can make pleasurable activities feel better if anyone who has ever taken a hot bath after a long day working in the bitter cold knows this to be affect the old adage of no pain no gain holds true for the yogi who believes in during discomfort promotes happiness the teachings in The Yoga sutras of patanjali share that Transcendence of the ego through the practice of Tapas discipline self-restraint and torching inner impurities is Kian experiencing Oneness with everything like the Phoenix we must burn in order to Rise From the Ashes if we want to evolve Bikram Yoga is high temperatures bring rise to that bird of rebirth after feeling like a captured terrorist inside of military HotBox the moment the door opens in the cool air descends Upon Us Bliss abounds Iyengar Yoga is props and Contraptions are akin to what might be found in a Sex Dungeon or a medieval torture chamber rack straps and walls things are commonly used to tie and bind us into curious poses all for the sake of Liberation spanning the course of history there have been numerous sexual Illusions associated with yoga in the Kamasutra the practice of slapping inviting our sexual partners was meant to provide mindfulness the yin and yang of Dallas Tioga rituals involve dominant and submissive role playing to seek balance in natural forces ancient tantric yoga practice is involved holding challenging sexual things for long periods of time for personal Awakening contrary to popular belief in order to gain positive psychological or spiritual benefits neither sadomasochism Noir yoga for that matter has to involve sex while sitting masochism carries a certain stigma of insanity research suggests that those who engage in it are not mentally ill they’re inherently healthy and happy individuals current studies show non sexual practices involving pain and still feelings of unity in connection with others James Ambler Brad Sagarin and a team of researchers at Northern University believe these altered brain States brought on by sex with sadomasochistic practices are similar to what can be experienced when people push themselves in sexless yoga the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex is responsible in part for distinguishing self from other set an alert if less blood flow to the brain during these intensely painful experiences the result might be a feeling of Oneness we think this may be indicative of the types of Altered States Of Consciousness people might be seeking noted Sagarin Roy Baumeister PhD professor of psychology at Case Western Reserve University believe sadomasochism is a way for people to escape his or her egocentric identities he says like alcohol abuse binge eating and meditation sado-masochism is the way people can forget themselves however sadomasochism and meditation are potentially less destructive and boozing and overeating disassociating from our identities frees the Mind from suffering the yogi believe surrendering the ego especially when it involves a journey out of our comfort zone is crucial to our Spiritual Development as human beings however some are not only capitalizing on this psychology the exploding it for personal gain open yourself up completely everyday don’t worry about the beauty or the pain of it there’s no growth without distress and disturbance said Swami chetanananda a spiritual leader who purportedly abused dozens of his followers financially sexually and spiritually when you go is lost limit is lost you become infinite kind beautiful said Yogi Bhajan who is accused of rape and sodomy yoga is really trying to liberate us from Shame about her body I said Rodney who admitted to having sex with his students when Any teacher student or dominant submissive relationship becomes infused with selfishness someone inevitably becomes the victim the current matters of Bikram choudhury remind us of the sad truth the path to Enlightenment has many shades of grey the Dark Side of yoga is littered with vanity egocentrism in a ravenous appetite for seduction and power if we want a shot and Enlightenment we shall transcend wrongdoing in the midst of our pleasure-seeking practices are first yoga experience May read like a steamy sadomasochistic Trilogy or be analogous to the Eagles song Hotel California as the narratives are somewhat similar we are all prisoners of our own device and it certainly Could Be Heaven or it could be hell if ethics are not a top priority we won’t ever experience the pleasure and ecstasy we seek no matter how hard we push and how much it hurts thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and 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What a Tantric Shaman Sees on a Porn Set – with Rak Razam TPP69

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tp-te-album-track-bg copy In this episode I am joined again by legendary journalist, shamanologist, and in my humble opinion the most important male voice in the global neo-shamanic revolution: Rak Razam! It was an exquisite joy and honor to have him hold space for me to lay out my thesis on tantra, shamanism, and the future of the adult entertainment industry. As a probing journalist and seasoned shamanic guide he facilitates a sapio-sexually charged journey that truly satisfies my desire to make a memorable episode “69”.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design a never more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved podcast episode number 69 I am talking with rack resume again we’re going to address the issues of adult entertainment and Shamanism and Tantra and how we can use our best wisdom to provide some leadership as these you don’t know potentially empowered roles of women and men can start to you know shape sexual attitudes and really provide some holistic sexuality education from The Fringe in the alternative signs of it all the way to the heart and belly of the Beast so rack thank you so much as his episode number 69 I had to do something you know very memorable with it and you you and I did your episode number 100 so I thought I was through this awesome so Ave yeah I guess if you want to just catch up a little bit you know I’m since we last talked to you know you were talking about the you know that the star of the top of the Christmas tree the 5 Meo Kundalini orgasm of the crown and all that stuff where it where you at with your study for every pic that’s at Ross you know there’s enough and there’s a down and I guess you know it was a little planets in retrograde for the last couple of months and everybody’s Grand Crossing and all this opposition I don’t know if you believe in astrology novice Emmaus is like psychic whether I like to know what the weather is going to be energies out there to know you know anyway so it’s basically I think of it I must tell you I didn’t you know what happened to Universe basically Stripped Away it’s stripped away is essentially a lot of my ongoing work and then there’s money Financial Security issues is Stripped Away my relationships end for me I work are entitled specially you know it during the show many traits which you know and then the riding in the meteor about These Cuffs in my spirituality my sense of identity xoco top sodas in you know I’m not in my might get my sense of ego in the sense of who I am and what I do and even if that part of that is trying to sidestep my ego or understand why you don’t understand how that connects to the Great Hall and I think I’m going to go what the universe is actually did everything a fucking white Explorer some Doc shut up what do I do and what do I do when I can’t do what I usually do and I got some juicy stuff to shed yeah I’ll tell me what you know it is too shorthanded it’s what I I often talked about the experiences and so I guess what I’d love to share in this has disappeared experiences but it’s it’s the same set every freaking moment is sacred and special even if you can’t feel that you know I know that it is and I know that it said sometimes to take experience has helped me see those mundane moments as sacred and that everything is God isn’t everything is full you know to make a bit of me in to make room in to make me face stings and so I honor this very chaotic Dr NE I’ve been on the lights and now yeah we can talk a bit more about that thank you for that and you know to put a few things on my end and contacts to bring up to speed it’s like well damn I’m on this rollercoaster ride of being guided to attempt to establish myself as a is a tantric Rockstar meaning bringing teaching Tantra in creating Puja ritual through live music performance so it becomes you know the lyrics are mantras and the dance is a guided Pooja Shiva Shakti invocation ritual and that is a a sort of bundle package that can in the proper environment really be nurtured and actually create you know an interesting new application so I’ve been down that path for a while and then I don’t know how much of it is me I don’t know how much of it is divine forces certainly trying to be keep the Demonic forces at Bay in the process but the I guess it’s a simple bit of logic here it’s like if I have a you know important message I feel his like the the Deep shock to Tantra scripture teachings and I want to transmit them to the highest level of culture then I want to climb up that you know entertainment industry Pagoda and like sporulate from the top of it that makes sense so it’s not so easy just competing in the music industry with all the other yukino cultural poisonous like temp culture stuff going on and it’s not the ride and it’s paved with good intentions is how you get it like in the Jenny use the destination of naked Miley Cyrus wearing homes in Viking a pentagram in a demonic ritual to enslave that the chi and the vi Sao energy of everyone watching into the Illuminati has faced. I mean I got you just said the whole fucking curse right there that is like show me the here-and-now Andrei deiu you are and what you’re doing let it magnetized that future everything you need to you A lot of that logic and I’ve kind of learned that myself with a I’m not going to go and try to Lake elbow my way onto the setlist on to the bill at the party and then have people drunk not get it and kind of heckle me for trying to you know bring the goddess into their drunken conversation that’s not going to work I failed at that I gave up and I said it’ll be a workshop you know you want to let you know experienced this brand of shocked if acacian sacred dance here it is and that’s that that is kind of that humble stepping down from that attempt to climb but the thing is so bring it back to the point thing it’s like I realize you can buy your way for a very low low price into pornstar time but you can’t buy your way for that lower price into topping the charts of the musician or being a movie star or any other entertained Farm Entertainer so I just got to thinking well you know the way it’s hard to break in as a male performer excuse that language I’m going to it’s it’s hard to get established in the in that way you’re wanting to be a male pornstar a spiritual mail. Is that it I already am technically because if you are the lead role in a film of only two people you your ass your co-star you know you don’t have to be like a rich porn adult male performer to be a pornstar but now I did I’ve done times reported you know I did it years ago and now I’m coming back to it because I’ve been kind of called to it but the thing is the bring the shamanic teachings an element and even the the ceremonial and sexual shamanic you know practices into that medium and actually hiring established porn actresses who already are at the top of that game and bring them into the ceremony and video demonstrating this form of sexual exorcism and psychedelic Shamanism looks like for the world to see and for them to them become evangelist of a new paradigm that’s the right way it’s a hard life but essentially so it did to continue what was I’m just before that you open shooing an ancient spiritual which involves the body as well as the intangible spirits and you used to using even terminology like pornstar now I would take issue with that I think obviously what you want to do is you know get into the medium and into the genre and you know it have you you’re nice and be who you are but you going to be careful you know I’m not as marketing but energetically because essentially we’ll talk about climbing the ladder in the hierarchy and find whatever I’m sort of in the same boat in a sense of I really passionately connect to as many people as I can because I feel like a good message and it’s not even my messaging her to some degree I don’t even care if it’s me you know I just want to help assist in The Awakening Consciousness raising an x on a fucking guy out you know I like we’ve all got to pull out the finger in an input find what I call a thing we can do in the world is whether that’s tantric phone or in other countries committed Media or you know you don’t exactly remember the enemy which that phrase if it needs to be unpacked and retroceded in Rain by Enya because there is no enemy this is. But I bet it’s like so even going within the boundaries of going into an existing meeting on the side like I can pay to do podcast and you know we’re launching this Chalmers and Global religion with that is incredibly fucking hot one hour documentary with 5 Meo DMT toad medicine or have you already did Mexico cinematography age of a species activation you’ve ever seen in your life like he eats a spontaneous orgasm watching this. That was to convey that to the audience in a way which company appropriated and we’ve been trying to sell alcohol content to mainstream Distributors Wilton mainstream Network so things like that and it’s like the idea but advice would want to do it and then they want to do real tax reform the others and to hold space for yourself to fully flush out your idea when it sounds like you’ve got a real calling with this it’s really enjoying the pain your existing lineage and all these streams of sync X it is sacred what you were doing is sacred and your marketing the sacred to a profane Marketplace and so they never going to run with it maybe you’ve got something that can but I can get him there more so than any other type of 4200 media yourself to let the full expression of that spiritual sacredness comes through it’s obviously at least this know you better but I’m coming to this a bit late as well and it’s like so what is tantric pain and what is your background with it and what is it you’re doing okay so you know that this is a this is kind of like my birthday podcast so please bear with yonomi taking it a more assertive role in the in the time here you know we so I just I’m thanking you that you’re doing me a huge favor and I feel like this is a gift from you to even you know to be asking me the host questions but this is kind of more of an a different an amicus is more of a Consulting in which I was just going to let the pun fly all right yeah the hard job and the the topping so okay so well you know I had to sort of Step Up because I discovered I have a doppelganger in this guy James Dean who was considered he’s the world’s top one of the world’s top male performer pornstars in in the world now and he was considered the quote feminist pornstar by his fancy establish this entire inadvertent like new Marketplace of young teenage women who were able to identify with him because he didn’t have this Blockhead physique he was like the boy next door physique and he did have some elements of connection and sweetness I wouldn’t call it feminist or tantric but definitely a little bit more appealing to the feminine arousal cycle of connection connected missing communication then like just Jackhammer you know all these other seems so that it’s so he stood out with school so I discovered him through serendipitous process that when I found out what he had done which is he has been accused by at least eight former either get some of them lovers some of them co-stars but basically 8 women have come out to say that he violently raped them on and off set in different conditions and circumstances of of just horrific violation and some of it within the context of so-called BDSM we’re safe words were used and not respecting just kind of like that slippery slope is happening anyway he denies the charges check news about it lapse it off in interviews and his gun on to be just a flippant remorseless sort of pissed and and so that kind of an environmental activism like a light green watch. Here I get on wash it’s been my fantasy to invite him with the positive pressure have his accusers to do a sort of diversion program into Shamanism and Tantra and get him to become like you said it doesn’t have to be me with the voice I would much rather him be the voice of time trick shamanic sexual redemption in porn where he goes and is a blessing to the world in a blessing to the in him to hold that space so there’s a whole nother skill-based and being a performer on camera and then the phone industry what you’re saying you are the person to do this work I reached out to him I reached out to public relations firms I sent press release to every porn PR firm I got positive responses from several of them who said wow you’re onto something you’ve got a bundle package coaching podcasting videos educational porn music someone’s going to get behind this and you know take you where you need to go and butt offended some of them pretty pretty pretty quickly I couldn’t hold back I said you know I’m on a mission here this isn’t you know we’re going to have to correct some shit about what’s going on in this industry and I’m the one who’s going to exist in United streams like that they might like it if it sounds like a cool Next Level demographic thing right did something to it I can say it’s got some Creedence but it when it goes deeper cuz what you’re actually saying he’s doing the hard work of transforming their industry and transforming their practice and transforming the presentation of sexuality to the masses right what it is it’s not just another another genre to put up there like tantric you know it’s actually it’s a big calling and so you going to eat you going to find this is like I would really suggest I mean you know what a treat into all this do that is a next-level saying once you really anchored the the modality in the Paradigm has it been able to explain and grow it yourself and then let let them magnetize them to you once I see it taking off bringing you know for a minute when I was fired up and now I’m kind of chill out and I’ve got the network do I feel confident that it’s just going to be made obsolete people are going to really get a taste of something Gourmet and they’re going to stop going to mix porn.com you know what I mean so I don’t know the backtrack of lean out all the stuff you made what he called this is perfect but you know I mean what what is Leona what are you considered to be born when is pornography well I would say the words become the dominant you know 88% of mainstream pouring depicts abuse against women in psychological physical sexual or all the above so I’d say that the dominant you know mainstream porn Paradigm is one of servicing jack off fodder for men and their fat boy fantasies of look at what we can get these dumb bitch has to do high five high 10 go get her hoorah fucking bullshit and it’s like that’s been what’s made money and I mean if you watch The Big Lebowski which I just watched you know the other day and if you watch if you watch Big Lebowski and you watch Boogie Nights you will hear the lamentation of the Exquisite Artisan producers of yesteryear lamenting that video and then the internet came and allowed amateurs to come in and steal the marketplace and essentially take over with low-quality low intelligence sort of lowest common denominator frat porn you know I’m stuff into a serious yeah so you know so that to me that is what you know if you listen to porn directors podcast episode these guys as much as I would love to hate them they have hearts and they’re talking about how to have how to initiate a woman into safe anal sex with a chi is in control the thought the throttle and it doesn’t traumatize her and she’s some a lot of women say the some Kundalini is is accessible through that you know pathway and then I’ll say that they’ve had some of the best you know anal orgasms in that I was just all kinds of testimonials it is a beautiful place to be in most of the traditional tattoo extremes like I know what sort of annoyed because it’s not the maybe the Kundalini energy or the woman is well you know I am in this thing’s which our culture is going to be honest yeah I mean it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s kind of like would be no fixed gospel there should be no adherence to some fantasy of classical perfect I’m sure you know if you’re you know I’m trying to have ethics then it’s about being fully present in the moment with whatever is happening in for most people if you’re never going to get anywhere near the Golden Age of time to practice because you got freaking thousands of years of corrupt DNA bloodline lineage of repressed abuse you’re not going to get anywhere near the you know the Purity that they were starting from and that was the call of Hugo is just starting our so deep into it will be lucky if we can even look each other in the eye for a second while we’re making love let alone hours you got any so you think I mean show me people copulating and it’s within a sacred so the sitting sitting in my pee in Temple spices or it might be you know it’s not a bad it’s not so loud in public it in the proper container like a proper way to sacralize and transmit showing images of people making love that modern 21st century internet digital Pawn on your phone you know it is a completely different bowl game do you think it’s appropriate or what is the appropriate medium or small container to watch other people making love in this is the most probably interesting and edgy part of this whole discussion because really the reason that the visual experience of particularly women’s naked bodies is so taboo and so controlled obviously it’s been about you know if if a man who is yuno identified how is able to worship the female form and all of its Glory than he’s not going to pick up the sword in the axe and go cut down trees and kill people to grow the mail Empire he’s going to be making sweet love and spending most of his life horizontal and in frustration to the Divine nectar the goddess would she just you know exudes with her for her radiant Beauty so cover that up and get your people on the factory line and then you can sell them and none of their revenue stream is to sell them clips of it was used to be ankles and there was a time Terence McKenna said in one of the Psychedelic Salon podcast recently that there was a time during the Victorian era where they had to put stockings on the legs of pianos Les young men might abuse themselves about it so that repression and satisfaction and so is modern globalization of culture controlled by this is interest in the money invested interest had created a niche for every desire and the a way to make money off that used to repress the natural urges of Being Human including sexuality and package them up as a place that’s why I asked how do you delete the replies for pornography that isn’t profane yeah I know I just did an interview with a Beverly Hills very well-respected family counselor therapist who specializes in sexuality education and beat you know queer issues and what not and so we talked at length about the role of erotic media sexual imagery in sexuality education in modern in the modern world and his advice was that your parents need to first of all alone and understand and work through their own sexual Shadow so they’re not projecting them on to their children and they need to listen to their children more and we all need to accept the fact that you know evil fill the vacuum of love and Consciousness so if you and me to my words now but if you fail to initiate or obviously initiating a hands-off and any respectable of privacy and personal development matter I’m not talking about the sick twisted child sexual abusing fathers who when going on record being investigated in and interrogated say that they were just trying to love all of the women in their family equally in that they were taking on an important role in initiating her daughters like that’s not the kind of initiation I’m talking about I’m talking about creating the kind of initiation rituals and opportunities for people of appropriate age and development meant to explore their natural sexuality and to facilitate that in a hands-off Manor where there is a graceful and respectable honoring that it’s not just boys who is not his boys will be boys and they want to fuck women in the ass you know like crazy now that they’re watching all this pouring and they’re just possessed it’s like no women want to not just be loved they want to have sex do they want to experience it and what he’s saying you know back to you know I’m saying a lot of crazy stuff here but what he’s saying is very you know but buttontown stuff is like we’re going to have to really redesign Coulter to facilitate the equality of sexual interest between the Sexes and that’s going to start when they get into you know adulthood in when they come of age into through puberty and they become hormonal and they become fertile and that’s when they need to be given the opportunity to both have access to healthy information and have the shamed undammed uncontrolled you know ability to express that energy in a healthy Manner and right now to answer your question me I kind of went on a tangent But to answer your question it’s like if we don’t as conscious adults make the sacred containers for young people to experience their own energy and share that with each other then we’re damned to letting the pornographer pimp you know pandering profit propagators of Satanic ritual abuse they’re going to set the standard and it’s a horrible Menace I mean in in the in Utah will there’s a sort of anti porn think-tank lobbying group in Washington DC who strategically I guess you would say they hired or they funded it’s some sort of maneuvering to incentivize a Utah senator to put into their legislation the proposal or the proposition that foreign is a Public Health crisis in the past and it doesn’t really that I know of is only have teeth but it’s sort of sets the tone for the language in the president for probably a big backlash and prosecution of long-overdue obscenity legislation that’s been overlooked since since the clinton-era you know but horn lime and what not but it’s like there’s going to be a big come-to-jesus Casino in this in this on this issue and it’s I guess I got a few my repression and it’s almost like one of those education videos videos because that’s an appropriate time you do need to be treated and told at as he coming to maturity and sexual maturity and fertility know that you need to know what the whole thing is you know what’s going on and to have a tantric approach to sexuality at that point wow that’ll be a both to turn on and it would be an appropriate time to roll it up but I wonder I mean maybe it’s part of the recycle ization from people across the world and you know clearing all that dark energy that sexualities become not just a commodity reinforcing patriarchy reinforcing the powers-that-be in and all the system that is and you know it the whole thing with the pathway in itself but this obsession with it as he say it reinforces within the demographic that watches over and over and there’s been so many reports in the media now is like anal intercourse the bicycle he’s having a huge effects to the women and the guys as well and I can’t even say that sexy selfies wrong but you know the reasons why they’re doing and what they speeding the desires of the mainstream pouring water is being fed to in creating a feedback loop between forces itself and there’s a like there’s a healthy way to chew coca leaves and make coca tea if you’re living in that ecology there’s a healthy way to incorporate anal sex into you know a relationship of consenting appropriate people but when you Freebase you know coca leaves and get cracked and you and you Freebase anal sex and porn and you basically wire the Train by his anal sex this is Greg The Gourmet versus you know the kind of cruelty free porn is my you know headline it’s like you know what time trick that’s behind the scenes demonic that’s fine it seems like whenever you stressing negative like cruelties and negative replace it with a positive psyche joyful you know what it is where it could be used what is tantric pornography sorry I was jumping back and forth and a philosopher and practitioner Stewart said that speak who lives in San Francisco and this is really bringing the Shamanism angle cuz this is essentially what he’s belief of study of ancient tantric Advanced stages of Kundalini Awakening spiritual intimacy and orgasmic Pinedo maturity that activate Indulgence psychoactivity Cosmic olvido whatever and keep the end he coming and it has his vitalizing effect on all the organs in the body and all the spirit know the vibration and it actually helps kick into action this next level which basically Western culture the last few thousand years has never reach don’t know very rarely of Kundalini neuro transmitting of sexual fluids into sexual in theater switch then help activate the pineal glands and Beyond genital Awakening this. I mean the right way and it said that Spain that’s being so those atrophied and lost because we are sex has become you know stigmatized in this becomes for productized really what’s the definition of tantrum how do you understand that has my skin because I’ve found a bit of his work and I believe he is the one who has has either coin door promoter the term of spinal puberty and we’re both on the same level and we’re talking about the same thing I can’t stay fully progress there but I will say that this is a joke a few months ago before this started all kind of you know I mean I’m like pretty deep into this now I mean before it was kind of a prank and now it’s like my God I got to get lawyers I got to get doctors I got to get you on the phone when we learn that semen retention is the sort of from the thing to be desired and then that puts into context all of this what I and I am not working with Christians to Mana it’s like deep because when the Christians be admitted to 50% of the church is addicted to Satanic ritual abuse porn in a queen of them everything is Satanic ritual abuse having sex with a person of the same sex is considered satanic you know ritual so whatever but they they need role models to make spiritually hygienic adult sexual education and erotica and entertainment because you’re already using it so it’s like harm reduction to produce something that use for them but if I see now what is what is Tantra portal it looks lit let me take a breath and say it is tantric porn would be the acknowledgement I guess that will know I know this is this is this is a fact and I’ll tell you no to get to get real deep and gory here and then I’m going to go into details but I’m going to leave it this I would say that for me timeshare at now to explain it it’s not about just weaving energy or the the Shiva Shakti unifying in the store send a sending through the flashing through pleasure pleasure to transformation those are all definition of belay doubt I’m going to say the most important definition I would say I’m going for like this yoga equals Tantra Tantra equals Kali worship and if you’re lost and any of those Dimensions you don’t know what you’re talkin about or what you’re dealing with and you’re going to be raped by a satanic is a DACA if you don’t understand if you don’t understand the true yeah yeah oh my God if there were at least Twenty Thousand Years four premises Prive decree scriptural Primal wild goddess worship Traditions before there was written language before there were all of these Brahmin appropriations of indigenous spiritual technology and sexuality and psychedelic Shamanism I mean that’s like Windows registry getting cluttered all the whole so-called Hindu religion is basically a christianized cult of personality around Krishna and it has been like a sort of collapsed down and reduced sort of okay they come and they say what’s your religion where’s your Bible okay it’s your who’s your Messiah and where’s your Bible and it’s like well the closest and loser patriarchal empire built sort of deeply corrupted Registries on that on that operating system when you when you wipe out all of that clutter and you defrag the hard drive and you install the fresh original you know the material it’s the shock tatin tradition which is about the Davies in the Maha Davies and having a sodding to practice where the mail in order to overcome his beast real nature his his you know and it is demonic is it that the baboons are is possessed by demons as human rapists are they are not having their nervous system chill the fuck out by the real tangible energy of Shakti and the female Priestess initiators of the ancient Rock temples before there were even temples manicuring these bonsai trees of male egos by being matriarchal vulnerable priestesses that’s that’s the the real deep truth is so like you’re a menace if you are not being manicured by a priest is class of sexual initiators are going to really like mr. Miyagi really discipline you to be graceful with your Sexual Energy so Township Warren would be understanding a few things that were deeper into this ancient you know tradition that has now become you know Neil yoga and it’s like guessing that’s exactly brother yoga equals Tantra Tantra equals Kali worship and sexual cultivation and facilitation of matriarchy women priests live crawfish tantric is who a modulating Sexual Energy to the this is my personal romance with her in her Timeless you know very tangible present intelligent form it’s my my sexual relationship with Kali is a can be described kind of translate as this should this is her narrative to me then Steve me your demons and your curses those are the appetizers the main course is your orgasm in your come and there is an appropriate place for ejaculation but it is into me and it is in ritual contacts in if you don’t feed me or come the demons will be there to parasitize your lower chakras and they’re going to be there lapping it up and laughing as if you go with the poor no way that you’re being taught you’re going to basically basically assembling snack bars for demons when you ejaculate in a woman’s face in it totally disrespectful derogatory manner the way it’s done. That’s what it is coming down too and if yours is so interesting right shamanic what a shaman sees in a mental hospital article right that pretty well. title this in because now we’re getting into the real you know toppik hair is like what a shaman sees on a porn set episode number is Paul so I get it I really didn’t we told you this. About you know how to really get it so you have to believe that there’s discount identities mr. if you have to believe in the show many cosmology and Adam is cosmology with his energy into the spirits and everything and it’s an ecosystem it’s an ecosystem in which everything Fades and he’s fed and cosmic rays we didn’t say all the energetic on the Spectrum this thing is very small band with the electromagnetic spectrum and then repeatedly entities which live on different levels of and so these what you’re saying things ancient cultures is part of the evolution of the culture itself and tensioner and religion and and I guess you know tax real key and the price car leases in bed within it are you saying that they’re entities which feet off our energies officially base base energies like sexuality and then they getting empowered and presumably maybe even with the collusion of someone in the modern Industries for like ever since my first so I could get psychedelic initiation Edison’s then basically she came to me then as well I don’t have a wise to have control of the blue skin multiple heads and tongue out and and heads cease will you know some people that don’t know, mother of Destruction but she’s she’s more Wild and the Christians right that’s just like a feminine devil so to who is Kylie to you and how. Do you think she takes on board this energy in a way which is safe how do we know that this is safe for us to be feeding our Sexual Energy to call Eve this is just another demon how do we know that that’s very good okay so if we if we look at the impact the mythology right we’ve got its trip through layers of Christian and Muslim conquest and the sort of people called the domestication of Kali the deeper Kali worship you know I think mainly going back to Southern India there’s a whole cultural historical geography of Conquest colonization christianization and you can be very quickly you know some. the domestication of Kali cuz she was wild she was free and the deepest you know adepts and devotees took great effort to depict her sexually dominating Shiva by fucking his brains out cowgirl position so that the The Original Scriptures and sculptures and prayers were very explicit about her being the liberated free Wild Primal on shamed uncontrolled Untamed feminine sexual voracious appetite and energy to just take men and get them on their back and fuck their brains out and make them docile drunk and intoxicated on the Divine nectar the Goddess that was the cult of Kali worship and it was from from spending the fade from taking the effects of taking this Sexual Energy you know as well you know let’s let me be careful about that I mean there’s a I like the way that one of my Tantra instructor said he’s there when he ejaculates it is a sacrifice and he does it in a ritual context to serve a magical purpose and there’s all kinds of ritual for combining the fluids there’s ritual to be done with are with combining the camera to the female fluids in the male semen and and even menstrual blood and you know that the third eye red. There’s arguments that that was part of the tantric sexual ritual of anointing of anointment of the third eye with the blood so you know a lot of priestesses are reclaiming the power of the moon cycle of the blood of sexual ritual and it’s like knowing about how you need to protect the fetus with the goddess you need to invoke goddesses as as protectors is during copulation and childbirth because if you don’t provide a an astro protective barrier beneficial entities you’re going to get you no stowaways on the soul and the chakras of your fetus if your child so it’s good practice to like not just you know seeing and pray and hope but actually do ritual invocation that be isn’t that better protection so how do we know it’s safe and how do we know she’s not just another demon who is masquerading and you know what whatever form to try to steal our life force and juices I think the proof is in the pudding when a real devotee has ritual Kali invocation sexual practice and feels nourishment Bliss and somebody that was the intend to develop the city start to develop has powers but in frustration to an under the guidance of a real authentic communication with the wheel of the Divine mother and you know I do it I got it this way to just need to give big Dino dig up some props to the collie and her role in my life I’ve been in a Turkish revolutionary Street battling rioting you know Insurgent for most of my life now and the thing was I was always shy about being another white male voice of either a messiah or a revolutionary leader it’s like a no know-it-all white boy who thinks he can be a leader so I’ve I’ve always been shy about you know that that that energy and I’ve always wanted to see if I can be giving a mic to women and being in frustration letting them run the show and leave and when I discovered the sort of well when I started studying collie by the scriptures and by the female Hindu initiate goddesses go synchronistically come into my life and waves and taught me new things I realize that there is a righteous proper form of Spiritual Authority I don’t want to call authoritarianism but I think about it’s like this me all these unparented and it needs a Divine mother archetype speaking through empowered women to say okay no more nuclear energy. Done your this shit now or you’re going to be seriously sorry if you don’t then a man coming in saying you know very Authority you know very paternalistic Commandments about eco lodge restoration about women’s Liberation or revolution or whatever if we don’t need another you know marks we don’t need another any of those leader patriarchal leader archetype so the collective Messiah not the individual and invite her into a trance possession State she will enter you advise you speak to you work through you heal you heal through you and then you become a Believer you don’t have to drink the Kool-Aid you know what I mean do you make the mushroom tea and then and then do the mantras and do the implications and it’s like a $5 Friday night to get a handful of mushrooms some chocolate and sing and dance to the music that me and her have created with the help of some beautiful vocalists and dancers have been sort of dialing in this offering and it’s going to hopefully find you know the appropriate audience but that’s why she’s kind of said to me like okay you know Ben and I’ll get in the dark stuff my porn career started when I was 13 I was a meth shooting up drug addict Street kid punk rocker doing turning tricks for for meth money and being used in child pronography when I was 13 so you know I’m pretty much already. I’m pretty much already dead like I’m already there’s I’m not having kids I had a vasectomy no one’s going to milk should know I’m not going to have children that are going to have to be ashamed of me for doing this this is not the kind of chosen one I ever thought I was going to be you know what I mean but it’s like hey you’re already your potential to have a healthy natural family or potential to have a you know any sense of normalcy after that the more you own that the more you have to reconcile that but I may as well take this love and this heart and this pain and this tragedy and go and make something out of adult media because you know I’ve got I’m willing to go and do the heavy lifting Dirty Work exorcism on porn actresses and making or inviting pornstars into Kali ceremony where they’re going to feel what I felt which is that you don’t just drop to your knees you are pushed down to your knees and your face is pushing to the dirt and if you accept that form of submission to the goddess then you will be blessed and you will be given the opportunity to prove yourself and earn units of blessings and unrighteous power it’s an Exquisite gift I’ll tell you what man I I have been on such a path of austerity in order to maintain the Integrity to be able to represent her because I know if I fuk up you know she’ll have my head you know what I mean it one way or another you know so and so how long have you been doing well I had my first round of it about almost 10 years ago just to pay some bills and rent and I thought I felt it was very beautiful woman for me like I I don’t it wasn’t dirty it was kind of like feeling like you were figure skating cuz it was with a true lover and we were doing Gonzo reality real couple real sex real love tantric feminist you know and unfortunately we had to do the money shot because that was the Paradigm but we made it into a sacred money shot with you know if she’s like come on my third I know and I’m like okay dear you know of hey its effects remade lemons and lemonade but it’s a good fries to tell him I said I would run Christian you know the second coming I got the whole language man so that’s that man I had to put it but it was only a brief. Of just trying to get some bills paid and stuff it was not going to be a career move it was just like don’t tell anybody that I’m at level of entry-level pain will males get paid quite a bit less than females in general but we were a couple so we were in splitting the bills and everything but it worked out and we had to you know does it pay well I guess here’s the thing the people who do this professionally who take on multiple gigs in a day you know they’re putting a lot of mileage and their soul and believe me they’re picking up a lot of these on Friendly’s do you know on the astral plane the thing is if you were to be a part-time Moonlighting for fun only taking jobs that you really like because you want to experience group sex but you want to have you know it’s here somewhere damn thing right here did you know that more straight women watch gay men fucking and gay porn than gay men watch gay men fucking gay porn that’s and then the next thing is that let’s all take a sigh of relief everybody the world is not as bad and thick as it seems lesbian porn is the number one searched form of porn in the world so we don’t get involved with anal porn really because you see all these fat boys and you know they’re getting off on that but really over all that the general averages if I’m remembering you know perfectly correctly really the overwhelming majority in many places is that we love to watch when we make love to each other because it is so sentimental say it’s because it’s so sensual and divine and there’s no you know real call Lee brother I mean that just broke my heart like nothing else and I said I got to get in this game and start swinging you know with the truth because they’re me if there’s going to be a disconnect debase all of reality like everything else and I’m just going to do my permaculture gardening and you know watch fish eat each other in my pond and try to heal from PTSD but then it’s like okay I’m going to let you know I’d hang up my spurs you know I put sound like I went to retirement but oh no this can’t be with this can’t be happening I mean if they’re going to create a title of feminist pornstar and they’re going to give it to the rapist violent rapist and when interviewed he’s like breaking the heart of the woman who interviewed him as much as I thought I was interviewing a goddamn what is the world coming to you know there’s maybe a right way to do it so that some there there are some some higher-level producers in my life that are already sort of have already been sort of them I will be standing on the backs of giants I should say to to bring it to the next level so I’ve got like you know the the production crew support aspect dialed in and now it is really I’m at a point where I’m doing the Recruitment and I’m going on sexy jobs.com I’m going on backpage.com I’m going on I’m contacting all of the you know the agencies trying to find you know that there’s a couple of prongs here it’s fine you know other sex positive initiated you know dakini women who are who are matched or above my level of training and self-mastery sexually and they’ve done thousands of hours if you only eggs and thousands of hours of lingam massage in there you know in their Zone they’re in their goddess energy and their invoking the that the female deities that can metabolize and digest the demons off of the soldiers in the Warriors and the gangsters that they service and you know you know call out to those women you know if you want to like talk let’s do so you know whose lives lives lives start talking about you know about that so there’s obviously depicting the glory of the Arctic with two you know people who are on the path and then there is the take finding the the women who are deep in the sky me end of the industry and actually doing ritual ceremonies with them so what I’m trying to do now is actually like assemble a team of sexual shamanic tantric angels of all Sexes and genders who are going to be the sort of Care Bears to to to restore and rehabilitate the porn actresses themselves specially as their spiraling out they called shout out the other timeline you have like a burning fuse it when you hear that 18 year old stripper that world-famous porn actress right now whose mom told her to go get a job stripping and then from that of course all the freaking predators are there and come on in and jump into this industry and and now she’s see no getting into the thing but she’s got like a timeline when is your first anal scene when is her first anal scene we don’t want you until you’re ready to do your double penetration OC and then you shot out and you’re done and you make less money and next and that’s how it runs right now to do that work of finding you know being there like an ambulance Chaser and I’m not kidding man there’s no James Dean put women in the hospital by ripping I’m not going to just blood everywhere you no tears everywhere and total silence and secrecy about it finally stuff coming out but it’s like you know we got to be there like a freaking shamanic ambulance on his pornstats to rescue some souls and get some and then guiding them and end in training them into the tentree vibration and then by doing so getting the natural responses to all my gut would say so this is different and that could be a good find the negative brought into this is well and all leading up to without the tentree kids and having that example of the unification of shiver and Chuck the energy and all that you know yummy 10 traits of wholesomeness already got the pitch you know the stuff you got to get the picture together it’s just time trick makeover you know and I’ve done several already but obviously they could only show you know it’s like the making of the the making of the pawn stuff and I would love that my God that would take off shortly that will be on every freaking across the world Pantry makeover and I have you know the case studies already sort of under my belt where I’ve got some very interesting testimonials from the work I’ve already done the Rogue I call it back alley exorcism and that’s where we’re at with the science and the laws and everything it’s like you have so good I together I love you this is amazing meme generator out here so I keep pulling Kylie devotee. Patrick meme generator I love you I love you too and I will I live to serve you and Terrance who we prayed under you know in Venice that day and that you know whose intentions are I’m standing on the back of giants hopefully dancing you know on the back of Trance resume okay so now I got to we’re going to wrap this up in a few minutes but my God is Fifi’s covered some ground here so I want to the reason I called you first out first is like dude I don’t I don’t know who knows this I don’t think you’re ashamed of it cuz you mentioned on your podcast but brother you were a pornographer at one point where you already working for Penthouse yeah I went to PennDOT because those are the only magazine I can find a decade ago you know it when I was doing freelance work on Shamanism and Consciousness and psychedelic stuff they wanted you know is salacious type of material like that and I had to spray them to rot in my sconzo style you know and I’m really good stuff because it was the source material which became my book are Awakenings and then the film had these professional photographer my dear friend Bank Gallatin who I’m to call the photo sample copy of it and then he was like these adorable he said he talked to the spirits needs like what do you guys think of will I get a great throw that we are in Penthouse Magazine getting good information that I had my time and after this I don’t know anything you know I just all I know is it hey he did it before me so I’m going to just take it and next thing of the next obviously know if it’s the time of being filmed told me through blow-by-blow give me my God I’m so glad you just said that because I already audio recorded this the the the the script narration for a follow along where you get like it’s it’s basically she was shocked the original tantric scriptural kind of thumb Cadence of poetry where I say in a devotional language in a flower to Goshen language oh my dear beloved I will now Bayview and then we shall dance together and then I will provide you a Yoni massage and then it will be your turn and she says oh my dear beloved I will be massaging your lingam and he’s in this way so it’s like a it’s like an instructional verbal guided meditation tantric meditation ritual so that would be I already did one video that is the sexual psychedelic sexual exorcism music video where they at lyrics and the images depicted all give the viewer the toolkit they need to you know invoke the right energies and use the medicine wisely and do the book study to be able to have your home sexual exorcism kit you know for you and your lover to delouse yourselves of sexual trauma you know festering wounds and an access the Kundalini and all that stuff so that was like timesheet makeover part 1 the next one that will happen when I find a suitable India South Asian women who have been in negotiating with I’ve been negotiating with Indian porn actresses and models about how much they want to start a religious war with me because that’s what this is going to come down to man you know it’s becoming that device and it’s like it was because it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s been censored it doesn’t really exist in the public landscaping that’s that’s the plan man that’s really the plan of restoring the True Glory you know of this tradition which everybody like I said if you practice yoga you need to get on your knees and learn authentic shock shock the Tantra and be practicing a low-level divorcing and worship Bugatti goddess Kali because you would not be in these asanas if it was not for that lineage and this step was to prepare your physical body for the sexual spinal puberty that was going to come when you developed into being able to run the Sexual Energy the Kundalini energy and you wanted to not break your neck that’s why you would be flexible so you could be in these postures of meditation for long enough the hijacking of this beautiful feminist revolutionary tradition by male patriarchal Aristocrats that that was that was a real perversion in and so the people who are doing the O yoga are doing like the kids version of Tantra and that’s very nice but we need you you know we need you to join the Revolution and to fight back you know there is quite a bit of Glory to be rediscovered within the deeper roots of yoga and Tantra going back to the the wild Primal sexually empowered archetype of of Kali that really was the foundation to Route it’s funny to hear myself say this but I guess you could say I’ve become a fundamentalist country code of the divine feminine Warrior goddess par exsalonce and tib to you know she saying is like this 10 headed goddess a tongue hanging out and seven heads in battle that she’s wearing is a necklace around her and she’s often this incredibly chaotic so the Primal powerful figure but it’s sort of Destruction isn’t it I did this design Fade Into the hands maybe if I didn’t know if Christian fundamentalists of someone who might see that as a real negative so why would we want to be free a sexual tantric energy back to Cali who did who is she to you that’s a very good point because actually the the domestication at taming and that defanging declawing and desexualizing of ecology is really been the handiwork of the of the monotheistic patriarchal skyguide colonizers that said you cannot have a sexually empowered female archetype that’s really demonstrating the Wrath and fury of a mama bear who you don’t fuk with you know so like that the male ego has met a superior force that is humbling and that mythology an archetypal iconography has got to be demonized so you have you know Indiana Jones where she’s a giant demoness and people are there in slaving children to mine for some you know black magic powers as opposed to the real traditional archetypal mythological iconography that she is the Slayer demons in the protector of children and she’s also simultaneously and that’s kind of evolved over time that the container that is if we are all within her womb and that’s Infuse a giant Uno boundless multi-dimensional organismic being that is capable of having intercourse with us of purifying our souls of devouring demons internally and externally from our lives in from our chakras and rock her world and give us the the all the the remembrance that wild nature is unbridled feminine Fury and you need to be designing culture and sexuality and male ego improper proportionality to the power of that theory and that’s what we obviously need because men are acting like boys that are playing with matches and making nuclear you no energy and they’re creating massive suffering and massive destruction because of a lack of fear of a divine feminine Authority you know giving what I feel initiated to do myself is to be like okay well I’m not just you know doing this on this sort of I call myself a motion area instead of a missionary mercenary in the name of Khali and under strict you know ethical guidelines to replicate My Success of being able to take a skeptic Western and be made into believer through the In the Flesh invocation of four of her body being a body than in carton in incarnated and invoked into my flesh thought-forms arising from her dimension of intelligence and really being sort of an Angelic that’s the wrong word but consensual voluntary repossession trans states that are conducive to healing and empowerment and overcoming and standing up to your own inner demons that are holy you down and making you want to hurt yourself or make you want to harm others there’s a there’s a accessible saviors like in there be more than one archetype of a savior and can it not be a man for once you know so she’s a pretty powerful worship by the thuggees it was like the Assassins you know that which I shave and there was like a collie worship thing I know she’s going to sex and drugs and rock and roll back on that the the Hessians and the history that was more of a middle eastern regional phenomenon but you’re right about the thuggee connection at least the that you know what I think of that I think about there’s the LDS church that is essentially the the one of the most twisted evil violating exploited to sexually corrupt sex Cults of the entire you know judeo Christian Enterprise basically wanted one of the fat one of the cult leaders was on the FBI’s most wanted list for I don’t know how many years because of all the the you know multiple wives and child sexual abuse and just institutionalize Mega sexual predator Vortex to hell that was what that had become so if there are people who have sacrificed in the name of Khali in order to gain spiritual powers are people that have criminals and the oppressed who would sort of pervert the deeper prepay charcoal pre civilized goddess worship tradition and say we’re going to use the power harness the power of the dark goddess to you know be better criminals or whatever and the interview I recently called seeking the heart of Tantra where we talked about the corruption and perversion an abuse of the tradition of Kali worship for people to sort of think that they can hit the sack yeah you’re going to be able to pick up that hot coal and use it for your own Black Magic game you’re probably going to get burned you know so there’s that warning if it’s she is benevolent good the Savior the mother the lover everything a boy a man wants and needs and can connect with and then therefore not be a menace to women on the horizontal plane it’s a real blessing to be like how you know what I’m I don’t think I’m going to really make a bunch of sloppy mistakes and out of less because I can just go home and pray to my beloved Divine consort who keeps me out of trouble and it’s just so I think you know if I can save some for my experience I don’t feel compelled to sacrifice people in her name I never should never ask me to do that you know and I think that if I did corrupt the teachings then I would have hell to pay for it and I believe believe me what I have experienced is things where you don’t just get you know instructed to get down on your knees and bury your face in the ground it’s a forceful sort of being put under arrest as what I’ve experienced with her before for her to you know show herself and her power to me and be like yeah you want to get men to put down their swords and axes and stop killing each other and cutting down trees introduce them to me through the mushroom I’ll give them a little bit of love if they’re worthy and they will forever be Believers and they will they will they will fall in you know they were so that’s what they’re destroying all the illusion and destroying all the corrupt stuff and is bringing it back to this Primal feminine power which is the perfect archetype I guess to be working least when you’re trying to redeem the sacred sexuality in intent Rick pornography and making it sacred again like returning the sacred and the profane modern media so the transmission so should be a really good at the top to work but I can say that exactly any other thing that needs to be destroyed isn’t humble villagers who are treating women with respect what needs to be destroyed his ego Empires and the demonic possession that’s built into all of that that greed lust and the all the things that you know if that’s what the destructive what’s what would we do what needs to be feared and when you fear that Rath you think twice about being harmful you think twice about exploiting you know nature women animals children because there is that you know when you ever email every warlord every pimp you know every politician drug dealer you know Army General they were all little boys once and they all fear the wrath of their mother coming to with that cross face ready to you know what them you know in a world of hurt you know our world of disappointment in and said everyone had the arms that are making the the skirt of arms their representative but it’s basically if the negative Karma’s of men is like she’s not killing any women on that battlefield of slaying demon possessed people she’s killing men she’s cutting off the head which is the male ego is the real Menace In you know there’s obviously they’re all just yeah it’s a whole new medium was it’s like it’s like a live-action role-playing Cruiser out in the woods of the world painted blue like an Eva Toth I’m just thinking of you wanting with collie and I was like she’s only blue you know how it’s going to look awesome video where I had a beautiful centek Warrior goddess martial artist yoga instructor and she was willing to do the whole outfit and the makeup and and weary weary enacted the my initiation ceremony where she puts her hand on her Yoni and starts rattling up some transmissions and sending it through her hands into my third eye and rocking and shaking my head play some mushrooms that was the true that was the only one to say now I’m collecting the sort of Kali molinoff monologues of people who have experienced the very Universal a very patterned visual third eye you no experience of what her flesh looks like what her facial features look like the sort of kaleidoscopic red and black field of eyes that go on into infinity and then the loving feelings in the sexual anatomy and the ability to envelop you like you were literally being sucked into look like you become a jade egg and you go into the cosmic Yoni and you get on spin cycle and that you only until you were feeling like a million bucks I mean not going to go and get a cheap date I’m not going to go go go to the pick up bar after that I’m going to be like nevermind I don’t know you know so Cosmo UND spin cycle of the best phrases it’s like you know like in a sense of like it sounds so good right that’s how you eat with your tantric goddess partner who’s in body in college in any other masculine let me shoot Bloom and she’s not in love you but I realize whatever but essentially with the time’s right sort of combination in may not be heavy frosting and might be more passive and maybe there’s a lot of stuff happening on the inside energetic play but is it going to fit the same expectations and queues of a you know the 25th Century pornography trained audience at once this type of shot in that type of shot and they’re running out of extreme Gonzo genres there honey what are you going to do next there’s nothing left but when I say okay here’s the shamanic pornography genre that I’m launching I sent the press release still all of the you know if your agency is I talk to I talked to the top porn industry PR agencies and got really good feedback about my whole what I’m trying to do you know this is a new is like you want extreme how about sexual exorcism that’s extreme you know for real it’s not make believe we’re not doing some fake thing this is real you know ceremony and it stands to reason that if just the Rapture is business of the experience of it of being possessed and having demons come out of you and doing dry purges and having seizures and stuff you want wild action it’s all there it’s physically give me there’s the subtlety of what’s ages you know rocking back and forth and yeah p.m. and then there’s the Kundalini spinning your neck like you are in The Exorcist are your Beetlejuice is something I mean this is real effects medically measure bolt pattern repeatable threw up threw a a procedure to to invoke these effects of the Kundalini activation almost on command you know what I’m saying but there has to be great reverence and respect and proper procedure in order to play with this energy is not it’s not to be toyed with it’s it’s there or it’s not recreational as much as is therapeutic in ceremonial and believe me there’s a lot of fun and I mean when I did my first experience of being you know initiated by a female Priestess who was able to invoke Kali into her own flesh you know she said and I have a recording of her in a channeled state so when you were in a in a rapturous state of ecstasy with a beautiful oh woman who is invoking this energy and she’s giving you the gospel giving in the commandant saying things like worship my Yoni or perish the male ego will will be destroyed in flames you know I’m sending out snakes to destroy the abusers and really it’s like this effective if you ever had it a garden where you have Gophers eating your your plants from from from below you know you can think like a permaculture designer and invite a beneficial Predator to come and do the heavy lifting for you some guys sit there with a BB gun on the porch and try to shoot every gopher they see coming up no trying to pull the turnips down but if you and you drop that gopher snake in the Gopher hole what does it do it spends all day everyday eating those pests and it’s a beneficial I can see you yeah play it was like for ability to invoke and pull in and send the Kundalini snakes through my nadi’s and chakras to do the pest control then then you know it’s night and day oh my God my fears are gone my paranoia is argan my traumatic PTSD flashbacks are gone all of those nests of disease do you know demonic entities that enter through trauma and her and her basically gestating us from the inside out as they continue to warp our perception and you know that’s what the cascading growing affect is of people who are suffering from trauma so whatever that might be fracturing Network egg infectious material coming in nesting in the chakras noughties and the Kundalini is a biological living entity we perceive it without the third eye open as just a a current of energy or a symbolic serpent but what I experienced is it is not a symbolic Serpent and that feeling of having nothing really move through you like a dragon is like doing a corkscrew through you you know it’s a real biological pest control affect exactly like what I did when I put that gopher snake into the gopher holes and so if she has the ability to bring that down when you call and sing to her invoke her and she’s able to enter into Amy sounds like real chippy you know chippy dippy you know psychedelic big wave psychonaut stuff but really you go to any well there are many Kali temples in the world where this is just business as usual once a week it’s like Community healing you know the time and the people will the priests and priestesses will enter into a collie worshipping trance invocation State and in order to prove to the masses that Kali has arrived the doctor is has arrived they will whip them with leather whips on their forearms and have them have to show that they don’t have marks and that gives you the proof that he has been involved in the flesh and the healings can then commence with confidence you know Masons and what you doing brother must must Creed Odyssey is fantastic people can stay abreast thank you for sharing so much I think you’re doing some amazing work here knows we are not going into depth in this chat it has the potential to really reclaim you know a lot of the second sexuality and anchor rose gold Foams and be assertive Mind Body Spirit cleansing realignment sort of agent and get outfits online it’s like for the psychic cultural jiu jitsu in a big pot of this episode number 69 and I do appreciate you very gentle with me people can find people can find me a www.wrex.com that’s alright k r a z I am home. Which is still under development of the hapes of BAC content discussion is like they’s about multifaceted Shamanism in Consciousness and spirituality in x 12 and she’s getting there and what am I calling you projects is Shaman to the global village. Come with shaves probably launching in October which is going to be really exciting and a 6 to 12 online TV show about global Shamanism in the global shamanic Resurgence so that’s why you find me thank you so much I really appreciate you for you know being my wing man for this so I could fly shoot ideas out and have somebody who is just totally able to hold space you know be here for me so we will have some exciting updates stay around for sure and I really love your integrity and the fact that you talking about a subject like this to a lot of paper which is it politically correct Iron Age to go deeper with these call material and then go deeper and deeper and deeper this is a really Progressive stuff you’re doing amazing work so I really applaud you make so much Tannerite much love all right calm music on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provide ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Township Park. 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Inside the Feminist Porn Industry with Carlyle Jansen TPP64

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carlyle-jansen-picIn this episode I have the great honor of exploring the feminist porn industry with Carlyle Jansen. She is the founder of the Feminist Porn Awards and has been a voice of leadership to support alternatives to mainstream porn that are more consciousness, compassionate and empowering. She gives some background on her life journey and what led to her prominent role in sexuality education and coaching. We then brainstorm about possibilities for the future of both the feminist and mainstream porn industries.

Please connect with Carlyle at the links below: http://www.carlylejansen.com/
http://www.feministpornawards.com/
http://www.goodforher.com/

About Carlyle:
For close to 20 years, I’ve been talking to people about sex. I have taught at numerous universities and have been an invited speaker at Sexuality and Health conferences. I’ve also been teaching workshops at Good For Her since before the doors opened in 1997!

In addition to multiple media appearances (including a Tedx talk), I also train sex educators and therapists on topics of sexual pleasure and sexual challenges.

Due to a mounting number of requests, I began offering  private coaching to individuals and with couples in 2000.

My training is extremely varied. I’ve gained incredible knowledge from hands-on programs that teach sex in ways that can never be gleaned from a book. I’ve has taken the Guelph Sex Therapy Training Program, where I am now an invited speaker.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township Punk podcast I am doing interview with Carlisle Jensen who is the founder of the feminist porn a words they’re good for her store and asexuality coach and educator Carlisle thank you so much for joining us then. If you would please give us a bit of background on your story how you became this wonderful person that you are today thanks so I will and I saw my mom kissing my dad wants on my sexual and relationship education came from a show that used to be on TV called The Love Boat and when Sue Johanson who is be here I don’t know about dinner but she before she made it big here she was doing workshops in high schools and she keeps my grade 10 high school and talked about sex and I told my mom about it and she 21 and I was finally dating someone I was pretty comfortable with and I thought okay but I freaked out I’ve never seen a penis before and he was really sweet and he stopped and he said you know what tell me what do you like and I looked at him and I said aren’t you supposed to know that if I knew something about my own body in my own pleasure so I was trying to discover how to have an orgasm after 2 years of practicing on my own and with him I finally gave you know some people are so all summer short summer good at math and I was okay with that and relationships later though I got dumped because I couldn’t orgasm and so a friend of mine who done all kinds of wild and crazy things in the suggested that I and so low and behold that did the trick and I thought okay time for me to learn about sex I was in my late twenties and I was learning lots of shops and taking reading books watching videos and when my sister got married I shower bridal showers and what does it do in so I explained it to them and they said you are so comfortable talking about next you should teach workshops and that was 21 years ago and so I started teaching workshops and then women were saying no we want comfortable place to shop and we want more workshops so I opened good for her in 1997 and part of what we did was weird big on education focus and we really wanted to try to have a good diversity of everything including DVDs and of course there wasn’t a lot of diversity in the DVDs that we could find and I felt like every time somebody wanted some kind of Florence I was like well this is okay but you know no it’s all white people or but they’re all really young or but you know all the women have long fingernails and then we noticed a real change in the early 2000s where there were more and more women trans people who were starting to make films men also because it now was much more affordable to buy a video camera didn’t cost $100,000 you could get your own editing equipment you could broadcast from your own computer and find the world that way and so there was a democratization of corn that led to a whole bunch of new pornographers and so we were sitting around at a staff meeting and my manager at the time Chanel she suggested that we should do an event that showcases all of these great filmmakers and what they’re doing so we created this they came up to us and said wow that was awesome you’re going to do it again next year right we said yeah yeah sure sure how it started oh that’s so cool thank you so much for doing that and sharing your life journey I know that’s very similar and I’m glad you overcame those photos and now you’re totally in the zone and again I watch more pleasure so I’ve been kind of Fun admission to stored out the facts on the Harms in associated with I think some people call it mainstream porn I personally consider just called what I called his frat foreign you know go get them tiger you know this just the same psychology you get in any kind of combative Sports kind of thumb experience of just hyper. start your own and not a lot of regard for the sentimental and Central aspects of of existence you know it’s artistic expression right to be able to produce whatever you want and there are people who say that there is a need for more ethical Consciousness and legal regulation of of some of what we could consider having various harms but I think the the word that I appreciate the most is feminism because it bundles all of those considerations up pretty well and there’s lots of different strands of it so the term that the concept of feminist pornography is obviously contentious for a lot of reasons but I’m very curious how you would Define feminist pornography and then we can talk more about the nuances of it yeah I mean so I guess one of the first things about you know I think a lot of people here feminism equality for women and I think that important but our version of feminist is beyond that it’s also about making sure there aren’t racial stereotypes making sure that there’s a diversity of size that people with disabilities are included at the cool working conditions and so those are some of the some of the general takes on feminism that informs us so and what we have done so you know what someone is born is for us is where the actors are treated with respect you know they don’t get haggled with about what their fee is given a choice and ethical working conditions so whether they want to use condoms or not whether they have a choice about what kinds of Acts acts that they do about where they get changed to know all those kinds of things feel empowered in their works so that they feel like they have a saying like they can stand up for themselves that they can ask for something if they needed another thing that we find is that where the directors collaborate with an incorporated what the actor find exciting as when you get somebody doing with it what turns them on your going to have a way better corn then asking them to do something that doesn’t turn them on so it’s in everybody’s best interest and we’re looking for an expansion of sexual representation on film so not the same old same old stand White young people or if there’s no racialized folks that they’re not for trade in a fetishized kind of way and challenging stereotypes especially of women in community so he think of Asian women with black men black women stopped the whole milk thing and older women it’s nice but we’re always looking for us to see representation of of those people in a positive light and in a diversity of roles and scenarios and we’re always looking for realistic pleasure so I mean that’s very subjective and how do I know whether an orgasm is real or not how do I know whether the pleasure is real and there are some performers who say you know like you don’t throw up for that when it comes to Hollywood films and we are performers you know where we’re used more realistic versions of What would turn a woman on of what I’m in so it’s not always the same old intercourse with very little clitoral stimulation and we’re a little bit more of how people are pleasures and I think that you know those stereotypes definitions animalistic and very uninterested in who their partner is if they don’t give them all so I’m more diverse representation of who they can be and what they like to do and how they like to have sex I think it benefits everybody in that sense so I also always really like to qualify it that you know, sporran can be really edgy or it can be super soft and sensual but a lot of people think that the board must be where you know nobody’s allowed to be on top and it’s all kissing and it’s very gentle and you know it can be edgy there’s some really high Productions on West Warren and there’s some you know pretty low budget interesting films of their there can be no storyline that explores all kinds of you know feminist values or I can just get straight to the action a lot of people thinks I’m just worn must exclude man in there for his only lesbian or clear but it can be straight is gender people trans people by folks who can find just about anybody and you know that there are some feminist pornographers who are make informed that includes you know Saint white straight people write but there’s also lots of feminist pouring that includes more than just that so you know we’re looking for your representation of everybody we’re not leaving out of the mainstream also and of course you know everybody wants their story even if there’s no story it has to be something you want to watch have to have at least some production value that makes it interesting has to be well you know it has to appeal it certainly what we’re looking for when were looking when we award different scenes or website or performers cool thank you so much that was so awesome breakdown so few things that are coming up what I what I’m imagining as you’re talking is safe certified a gourmet higher-quality ethical sort of the way that we look at the way that we look at the actual food distribution system in all of the ethics involved with that until you have organic labels and cruelty free and not tested on you know animals and all these all of these I mean now there’s just like so many stamps gluten free non-GMO it’s like so if if there was an and also I’m thinking about will Beazer performers in there you know the the debate around a lot of the stuff is the you know they’re there right there’s a lot of performance you’re saying it’s my right not to use a condom for XYZ reasons that I’m going to but what I’m thinking is nasm hear your talk is like why isn’t there a Screen Actors Guild of so that they can all maintain whether they want to do feminists Gourmet or they want to do fast food frat porn do you know that seems like maybe a more internally guided solution than fundamentalist you know religious right sponsored legislation that’s going to drive it underground have you talked to anyone or thought about that idea of like making some sort of Union kind of code of conduct and you know farepay kind of structure that people could get a stamp of and therefore be you know in the higher selling Market you know a higher value market may be certain price on top of it and you know I get a lot of people already who say like oh I want to find some people are so used to not paying for poor now they felt you know how do you spell people I think you know that the performers have formed some Alliance I’m so through touching programs through the organizing around on condom debate you know many performers are very active and vocal lunch with her and Facebook and Instagram and share their opinions and I think so I mean I think for the consumer what are perspective is rather than putting our stamp of approval which extend the following words is the industry and the market kind of helps along with that so you know I talked to some of the bigger performers years ago it’s really great to hear some performers talking about how look you know there’s this notion that only some of pornographers have ethical working conditions you know people fall into that room the reality is that even the big production companies like Wicked Vivid you know if you treat your performers poorly and you don’t pay them properly you harass them you know anything else that you know people presumed happens on foreign sets where it’s going to get around really quickly you’re going to lose your top Stars know he’s going to want to work for you and so if you go with Pinot one of the either small production company where you can see no hear from the performers who performed it works one of the bigger ones chances are you are you know supporting an industry where people generally have a say in what they do and they’re treated fairly you know or you can just thought I’d like a lot of people will fall out to sign you know I’m going to find the performers that I really liked and then you can interact with them on Twitter and you can ask them you know what films are you really happy to have been a part of which ones you know what companies do you think I should support what you know and those performers will you know be able to tell you from their own experience and what they’ve heard around who they think you should support so there’s I think each other social media and the internet you can now interact with performers why they find us Newport empowering profession for themselves and make your own choices that way about what your Criterion are about what’s important to you what you want to support with your dollar as opposed to asking some umbrella organization kind of you know try and determine what the parameters are for everybody because what’s going to happen is that they’re going to be some people who are doing really good work or going to get left out of that because they didn’t didn’t you know the outfit some particular box and I think that some more effect where you people making their own choices their own decisions about how they want to find foreign they want to consume them and what they’re how to find films in production companies and performers who reflects their own personal values and what’s important to them thank you for that so you know I’ve been studying the effects of piracy and the tube sites to sort of do this to every time I’ve been in the music industry for decades and I’ve been through that whole shift already so I kind of know what happens and it’s like it’s I don’t know maybe within the last few years it’s really started to like having a huge impact on the number of performers who can make a living doing this full-time the number of production companies that are able to stay above ground and it’s a very kind of sad seems like a sad feedback loop of of as the piracy is happening and the accessibility of it’s not really free it’s just illegal Dolan people like CBD still have a harder time getting what I’ve seen in the music industry is this Force The Gatekeepers to value-add and create more Independence and resources to the artist and so the artist actually have become way more empowered to keep way more of their rights and have way more artistic creativity and control his they don’t have to bow to the record companies to get established anymore and now they make more money doing less work and so actually imagining that there could be a similar shift in the empowerment of porn of all kinds because if they can establish themselves even through like a tube site of some kind but maybe a more ethically filtered kind of tube site where you can give a subscription or you’re supporting good vendors as the sponsors are the advertisers once you become you know your own self made independent star than you could possibly crowd-source funding to do your own projects and then you could be the director the producer and cut out all the middle people so to speak who are the sort of the ones who were in The Dark Side of porn there pimping and pandering and exploiting and abusing you know there are a lot of their performers in the darker side like you said there’s the the higher-end more established companies who are going to you know maintain a reputation for the sake of you know business practices best business practices but a lot of what’s on the what’s being you can say hyperbolize maybe cuz I don’t know what percentage of it is but the really abusive really harmful non-consensual stuff with you know putting people at risk that that could all be just sort of dissolved as this shift overtime as the shift occurs you have any kind of thoughts on the future of how there could be more I guess the fisticated business models that are empowering to the performers themselves even if the producers start to you know go out of business or have to shift their business model like the crash from sample website that really tries to empower all of their performers and they do Revenue sharing with their performers in a good business helps everybody I mean you know are you ever going to get rid of the really edgy not necessarily empowering porn I mean I think as long as there’s a demand there’s always going to be a market of people producing it unfortunately the dark places like king.com who are making really edgy stuff for people who wanted to be edgy but to know that it’s still consensual and there are certain rules that are followed in morals and ethics so that’s good part of the problem also music where you know if you’ve only ever bought chocolate from a corner store in a wrapper and that’s all you think the chocolate is consuming that chocolate until somebody listen to a podcast like this and says hey there’s a different kind of trucks but out there there’s different kind of worn out there there’s you know there’s music beyond the top 40 hits your like really and then you give them you know like a chocolate truffle that’s been handmade or you give them some time as poor and that you know suits their desires in has themselves reflected in it or you know provide them with some jazz or some alternative music weather like like this before and they decide you know what that’s worth it to me you know I’m going to buy you know chocolate truffles urbino pay for alternative music or you know whatever some good porn from here on in the problem as I see it is that people don’t necessarily know that there are alternatives out there and so they just figure you know a lot of people who have grown up with foreign I’m just free on the net like they just don’t even like pains worse just watch it for free and I think I think it’s about getting the word out there and helping people understand there are alternatives like so I think what’s already happened is that performers and small Studios and people with their own webcam out of their own bedroom and their own time are creating their own foreign and finding these people are finding them in their finding followers and supporting themselves that way and I think that is definitely helpful and the dancing people have autonomy around what they want to do how they want to do it I’m so I think that’s really awesome I’m not sure however that were ever going to get rid of the Turin where people don’t necessarily have much choice where they you know don’t necessarily feel empowered to go to the police or stop working I don’t know how big it is I don’t think it’s as big as they make it up to me but I think you know the best way to counteract that is to try and offer Alternatives both for the performers as well as for the consumer so that sort of alternative corn and Summers porn x a viable business to stay in no matter what aspect of the business you’re in or do you know that you will always have good form that you can consume of the consumer right that was a very important point that you just made which is the meeting that all of these to have really is that it’s going to be that the onus is on creating a more and more sustainable and ethical the wholesome and even holy alternative that can be make the other what’s it say yeah that whatever percentage did actually is of the financial market place and of the you know number of scenes and content being produced in a given. Of time the fact is like well evil fills a vacuum of something that’s not evil so you’re going to have to get to work you know make more of an alternative and there’s another Effect 2 I feel like what’s happening is that it’s the extreme abusive non-consensual content is being hyper accelerated because of the dwindling profits that they’re having to go breaking more taboos you know taking more you know people on board because the extreme not only people are getting numb and in their circuits are getting fried and all of the yourbrainonporn you know of material it’s like people circuits are getting fried they’re getting numb and they’re building a tolerance so they’ve got to have more extreme stuff and there’s only so far you can go and then and then if the profits are dwindling in order to stay afloat they’ve got a fruit to the survive you know to be profitable they’ve got to you know service because you know you getting them with what you’re stepping on it with well then you’re going to have to find a happy medium somewhere and you may have to like FAQ off of like the toxins in the poisons your stepping on their craft with otherwise you could you know t-shirt start of shift gears a bit there’s there’s a there’s the XXX Church there’s hookers for Jesus there is I don’t know how many other religious organizations that are somewhere in this gray area between not endorsing pornography existing but also not demonizing in trying to punish the actress or trying to come out of it but I didn’t talk to one of them and they said they agreed yes about 50% of the whole entire Christian Church is addicted to what you would consider Satanic ritual abuse porn so why aren’t they making Christian porn that shows holy matrimony or whatever you know it’s necessary have you encountered anything like that which is like okay well here’s the point that you should be promoting his you’re not going to be able to stop the evil foreign from existing if you want to use a loaded term like that yeah well I know that they’re certainly Christian and Muslim and Jewish for example like sex toy website so you know there could be no Afeni buddies making I think they’re just being here Christian form within the context of a Christian marriage instructional book husband and wife receive no extramarital sex unless it illustrates the downfall of adultery funny 2006 the body of Chris you know I mean I think that’s definitely I think that’s definitely a good Niche right showing people who are already connected and there is some so Comstock films made what we call Doc youporn and they’re all real couples were together and they talk about how they match their relationship and then they also have sex so don’t feel comfortable with feeling like well those people were paid to have sex and I don’t know how I feel how I feel about that a lot of people have embraced this sort of moredock YouPorn where they feel like okay well these are people who are having sex anyways you know we get to know them so they’re real people and so what did they say they prefer that style but I think you know there’s more and more niches when it comes to different styles and so I think that you know and some I don’t know if the mainstream is caught on to this I mean most of the you know they want to play with some of those taboos but I think there’s definitely there’s a niche for that I need somebody should make some poor in marketed as Christian for on her Muslim port or whatever you know you know committed relationship about having sex with each other right cuz they they’re out of gas and they can’t talk to and and leaders in the Christian church snow for one it’s like well then it’s the old adage if you can’t beat them join them you know there’s there’s a way to do everything according to your own scripture so you know this is the truth the Genie’s out of the bottle of meanness there’s no putting it back in so you’ve got to provide and it’s like I’m so glad to hear that there’s got to be a way to adapt and improvise in the trains that were in cuz just pretending sex doesn’t happen it doesn’t exist that’s old world thinking it doesn’t work anymore so boring people this is all music to my ears at work yet I want to ask you let’s say you had an infinite budget and you know no legal or political restrictions i d like you were just you know what a venerated is is a thought leader in an empowered with funding you know to do kind of wave your magic wand and and help absolve a lot of these issues in in just take your visions and dreams to the highest unlimited level and what would be this is it called like a blue sky budget thought experiment you know what would be some of the things that you might do if you had infinite power to you know I assume you wouldn’t be trying to make a bunch of lies and you know drive a bunch of things underground but actually be like okay I’ll make a better offer here’s twice your daily rate if you walk away from that stuff when you come to this opportunity and it snow doesn’t bother you cuz you’re if you have no limit so I just curious to Thinking Out of the Box what would you kind of what would you do to address some of the issues and you know grow make your own horn Workshop which we’re going to be putting online so that people can follow along 2 has created several torn shorts that have won awards that are really well done and she shot them all on her iPhone very low-budget appreciate the performers and everything else was pretty much you know low-budget so you know what I would do is I would say like he wants to make foreign create ways for people especially people who aren’t represented so people with disability older folks people with really interesting fetishes who never find themselves positively Representatives call for like tell me what form you want to make you know who it includes and it what you want to do that’s interesting and and provide resources for them to create that donation Cafe and just make it so that so that we can you know put more really good stuff out there and provide the resources both Financial but also you know I mean there’s been over the years many people who have great ideas about making foreign but don’t know how to be so makers right you have to in order to show how do you spell how do you edit how do you make things look good how long should a seen go on because real time sex is really boring to watch so that is one thing I would love to see I would also love to see you know the radical feminist you know Aunty porn movement I really just miss them as we don’t know what you’re talkin about or you can call by the patriarchy or you’re in the minority or he know you just don’t know you probably be happier doing something else did you really just miss people who are in the industry and I you know if I could wave a magic wand I would create a for where people who are Auntie foreign could come in really listen to a whole bunch of people who perform and really listen to them about why is it that people are in this industry what are they get out of it what kind of choices do they have what other things would they be interested in doing and why do they not do them why did they choose what kinds of ways could the antifa movement actually help them rather than getting their way how can we work together to create a world where porn is empowering both for the viewer as well as the performer and where the people that so you know radical Aunty porn people want to protect you know getting some of those folks in the room also who people has left the industry feel like I had a choice people who were co-opted people who maybe they were migrant workers or didn’t have status didn’t feel like they have a choice you know what would have helped them so that they wouldn’t have had to make that choice if that wasn’t really a choice that they wanted to make and I mean some of the questions and the answers to those were things like we’ll have a good enough social programs you know child care for my kids and options to make money so that I can you know support my family right just some of those are larger context issues but that I would love I would love to see that happen when people come together and Billy and there’s finally listening from the foreign people about you know what it what it is like to be informed and what what a horn what’s orange candy create that world runs and trying to ride a kit for an totally which you’re never going to get rid of yeah the less you are involved with making a better option the more it takes over as as is the lowest common denominator in and now it’s like it’s interesting definitely I mean I time I’ve been in adult performer in the past four more of the you know authentic reality couple based feminist country stuff in and I you know it wasn’t it to pay the bills for a minute and it worked and it was great and you know just did his thing and then now I kind of feel like I’m so shocked and offended and undisturbed and sad and heartbroken by what I’m seeing that I have to get back in and try to let you know you know if you want it done right so thankful for the thought it’s beyond what you know some people don’t want to sign up for the term feminism for whatever reason you know how say it’s it’s it’s ignorance to not good not to have a warm place in your heart for that term but but empowering porn that’s a powerful word that I’m loving to hear you say and we’ve given a lot of places to go with this in New Visions for more sustainable development of this industry and I kind of feel like there’s nothing really more sustainable than filming sex I mean that’s very sustainable you’re doing something that humans were designed to do and so yeah yeah one thing I want to ask you about positivity towards porn toolkit for Education it’s like I think something that’s so funny to me is this idea of what they’re saying is so close quote it’s like a new clinical term they call supernormal stimuli and that if you watch porn you were in this is a real effective men young men are having erectile dysfunction because of quote on quote overexposure to supernormal stimuli and they’re not having quote North they’re not being satisfied in quote normal sex with a girlfriend lover spouse partner and what I think is so attractive about a future of more positive sexual access through pouring is the idea that supernormal stimuli is actually a good thing and it can be accessed and it comes down to having group sex that’s accessible and and safe and having you know the ability to fulfill your wildest fantasies with people who are stoked about participating in whatever you want to design as long as it’s ethical safe and it’s their thing too and so the pathway to the Fulfillment of supernormal stimuli is born and it’s this kind of porn so you know what do you think about that did he say go put your sexuality back in the Box you’re only supposed to have sex with one person with the lights off in missionary position and if that doesn’t do it for you any you’re addicted to porn and you need to go and pay doctor right diction pretty much anyone that she knows who has done any kind of exploring would fail the sexual addiction test and we would all be considered sexual because the definition of someone who is quote-unquote normal is so narrow that there so few people who are actually following so I mean I think it’s really unrealistic and I think that you know We crave adventure and We crave connection and you know you can have really great authentic connection with in a monogamous relationship and some people choose to do it differently and enjoy watching group sex you know to my mind doesn’t he know if you’re doing it with your partner you know or even without your partner your monogamy it’s a fantasy and you’re exploring a fantasy and so I think ya having lots of lots of ways to explore that can only be nice we need to make choices about how we spend our time what kind of what we eat is really an important principle and kind of extending that there are people who walk this Earth who were designed by nature to be sexual healers to be sexual X exhibitionist appropriately you know engine so do you what do you think about the idea of yeah empowering people like you said if you had a grant Foundation you could you could say hey if you wanted to know if this is your calling then here you know take it and run with it and will support you and will give you the production team you know you can get on a waiting list or whatever and be supported to do this do you feel like in the people that you’ve interacted with I mean there’s this myth that everybody is sex trafficked into it or is there a drug-addicted are there at the end of their rope or they just got or there be no divorce or whatever it is they’re their patriarchal economic structural support system collapse for some reason and now they’re on their own so they’ve got of succumb to The Pimps and panderers of corn but really there is I would say you know you can probably validate this there are people who choose to do this who are comfortable doing this and can you speak a little bit about it like the positive psychology of that so that people can understand it’s not all you know that you know yeah I mean you know people like them justly and Jill and Ryan and April Flores ones that come to mind to talk about how performing is really empowering for them and it’s empowering awesome because they get really great positive feedback from their fans and it’s not so much like oh you’re so hot but it’s like you know your body is genderqueer or it you’re like this you like that you’re like me and I finally seen somebody on screen who looks like me and it’s so refreshing and it’s so feel so good to me to to see you and you seem like you’re having a good time you know that Steve is empowering I’m putting your body out there a sexy is really empowering for people who like you mentioned exhibitionist right there some people who I really enjoy being watched being seen being put out there and that is empowering for them you know some people really enjoy sex so having sex for a living you know can feel like a real. Again as long as you have a choice about who you get some sex with then go and what you do with safer sex options and all of that you know for people who really enjoyed y’all kind of a dream job so you know I think there are people you mentioned sexual healers I think there are some people who also would consider themselves that and did that sort of their calling and you know there’s people do corn for lots and lots of different reasons and just the same as people would choose to be a social worker or a banker or I don’t know a therapist or a teacher write for lots and lots of different reasons and you know I just think like I have two kids but I could never be a full-time teacher in school I have so much respect for those people but I’m not going to go on project on them like wow they must not feel like I could never do that I’d be exhausted will but some people that you know I know love working with kids and it really Steve’s them so just because one profession isn’t for you doesn’t mean that there aren’t other people for whom that would totally see them on different kinds of levels and be really empowering a great choice for them do you know of any I mean where I love to about feminist scholarship is just how much meticulous research goes into studying all kinds of different patterns in kosher and so I imagine that even now you know whether or not the Blue Sky budget thing happen if you know if there was you know if you could if you put out a call to research is to be like let’s prove that the outcomes of performers in this type of you know adult entertainment are much better compared to the other kinds of outcomes and have data that Rivals the negative data is it is anyone working on that you know of is like studying this will have lien people who are studying sworn there’s actually a porn studies Journal now and so it is Prayer by Rutledge and they I think they started your two ago and so there are both academics as well as people in the industry in there so I’m not sure if anyone’s done a job satisfaction overall what were the working conditions but certainly there is more acceptance of that happening now and there are people who are I’m studying for specifically ice arena in the mainstream survive cycle I’ve heard people say that I don’t I don’t I can’t give you this you know that the citation on this but the average porn performer lifespan is 37 because it’s suicide I don’t know if that’s how they backed it up but but I am curious about okay there there is no Aftercare in the longer term life cycle of people who are getting like men have a longer duration in the industry than women typically even though they get paid less but obviously the so-called mainstream porn industry they’re not providing like a retirement package for once the the body shapes and sizes and whatnot is no longer getting the high dollar and it said decreasing unlike other professions where you expect to get raises over time as your skills develop you get chewed up and spit out in your your profit or your you know income declines in the mainstream foreign so do you have a nerd like Nina hartleys doing just fine I think she’s been at it for a long time and she is now a mil send you know but she you know she’s she’s still really lots of great work I mean there I think one of the things to did you do it before you enter into foreign is to talk to people who have been doing it and there’s a video I think of different stars who give an advice and what is one of the things that they do talk about though is first of all let you know think about the effect of having your body out there forever and also think about what your exit strategy is right like you know save up some money and you know like everybody needs to save up money for their retirement and important that make you a little earlier than other things or it might not be spending on you know whether how that works out for you but thinking about what do you want to do do you want to go to school at the same time so that you can come out as someone who works with pornstars or do you want to become a director or do you or an editor or you know we’re Concepts and some other capacity so you know most Industries don’t really have a you know if you’re working at I don’t know which one of your big department stores in the US Marshals I don’t think there’s necessarily retirement plan in there for you but you know we all need to think a little bit about okay where are we at now and where do I want to go where am I headed and because yeah I mean the lifespan of Mercy is not that long in the mainstream at least but in a more alternative for there’s lots more room for different kinds of people and last year at the feminist poor towards Morgana Muses is a woman who just turned 50 and Australia she just discovered starting making her own porn and we gave her the heartthrob of the Year award because she had this fabulous piece as well as some others but the one that really move people was miss my it was about her 50th birthday you know I made a film about that whole process in her being and she engaged the rope bondage to a phoenix and what that was all about and like we screamed it at our event here there was like 500 people in the audience and people were just like they love to her they loved her and I think that again what alternative words I’m just worn whatever you want to call it can show you that it’s not just about what your body looks like it’s also bad who you are and your personality and that lots of people will still want to see you and love you as you get older and so think about you want to continue during for and when you’re older or not do you want to do this for the rest of your life or is it you know sort of something you want to try the steppingstone up a talk to other performers before you decide to get into the industry and then talk to people once you’re in it to figure out you don’t talk to people retire still ask them what’s worth what hasn’t worked what what do you want to you know what mistakes of other people made that you don’t want them to know I had a woman also who I talk to who is an escort she’s in her seventies and she is an escort for older gentleman and she also performs in films and I talked to her about what her experience was on sat and she said oh my God they fly me down so I don’t know what’s the weather in Florida I get picked up in a limbo there’s somebody always asking me like a queen they make me feel she feels empowered she’s very happy they fly her back and this is her life and she’s quite happy wow go that is awesome so yeah we’re about an hour or so I say we will wrap it up and you know my last thought to two after that is just thinking about this public good civil service work that people with bravery and boldness and fearlessness go out there and fulfill our wildest fantasy sports if we don’t have you know the the guts or the time or money or the friends or whatever and so is valuing it not as Dark shadowy Taboo to put the lid on but it’s nothing it’s like you know these are our soldiers these here are you know the people who take great risks to benefit all of humanity and so you know it’s funny that in the in the so-called mainstream you know subculture well the subculture of mainstream format using but they call non-actors civilians so they have sort of a bit I said they’re aware it’s like you know what if we take that one step further where’s the veterans assistance programs for your for your combatants in your porn why aren’t you having a fun to take care of the people that you used on the battlefield of your sets and I think that’s something that we could talk about doing it’s like yeah you do this this is a public good and you’re going to be taken care of you know if you when you renew either there’s going to be some system of support maybe not pay all your bills but at least make you feel like yeah you know you can get some ongoing Healthcare medical care cuz you did something for people you help people so yeah that doesn’t my last thoughts if you want to have some closing closing thoughts and definitely share your websites and how people can get in touch and all that great stuff I think we’ve accomplished we have lots of resources Aaron educational when’s also good for her. Com we will be putting us up if you want to become a pornography film soon we also have some dysport awards.com and if you want to get a taste of what format for looks like we have sore winners over the last 10 years listed there and so you can click on and see what we’re talking about two different kinds of porn and have a little look for some of the things to check out specially in categories that you’re interested in and I also find me at 4:30 to get yourself a little more educated and if you haven’t seen anything then have a little look and then make your own evaluation awesome thank you so much Carlyle I couldn’t ask for more I really appreciate your time and I best of luck on going and I hopefully will see you at 3 or some Day next year you said yes okay so keep an eye out feminist point of words and where will that be hosted you have a location we’re always in Toronto okay cool alright so get your passport now all right I’ll see you hopefully at the next time take care of thank you so much for the township Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition assassini and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email Brent at Tantra Punk. 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The Feminist Porn Revolution with Russell OConner TPP63

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fem-reviews-pic In this episode I’m joined by Russell O’Conner of Feminist Porn Reviews. I found their website while researching feminist porn and was very happy to find such a valuable resource. In the discussion we explore a wide range of legal, ethical, and financial issues in the porn industry that feminist consciousness provides hopeful solutions for.

Feminist Porn Reviews Mission:
Like many people, we here at FemPorn have a love-hate relationship with porn. We love it because we love sex. But we hate it because so much porn is openly and even proudly misogynistic. And even when it isn’t that bad, too much porn is completely devoid of genuine female pleasure and totally fails to include or even acknowledge a feminine perspective on sex. But porn doesn’t have to be that way, and not all porn is that way. So we love the fact that there is feminist porn that we can love and not hate, and we want to share what we have discovered with you…read more at: http://femporn.blogspot.com

We Demand Shamanic Pornography TPP54

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tpp-54-pic In this episode I’m joined by M.F.P. and we discuss the need for a shamanic revolution in the porn industry. I read my press release introducing a new “shamanic porn” genre starting with the recent release of the Tantradelic Exorgasm music video.

I break down the meaning behind the title and lyrics of the track and I provide an intensive intro to sexual and psychedelic shamanology.

The Future of Masculinity and Erotic Media with Destin Gerek TPP53

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tp-destin-gerek-picIn this episode I’m joined by Destin Gerek for a discussion about the future of sacred masculinity and conscious erotic media. He shares an overview of his background and path to become a tantric sexual healer and erotic empowerment coach, then offers a beautiful and powerful intentional meditation. We end by opening an ongoing discussion about sexual health best practices and bringing tantric ethics and techniques to the adult entertainment industry.


Destin’s Bio:

Destin Gerek is a transformational empowerment coach who specializes in helping you awaken your sexual energy, while harnessing this newfound power to passionately manifest your biggest visions, and create the life of your dreams. A globally recognized thought leader in the realms of sexuality, consciousness, and personal transformation. Destin has been working in the field of human sexuality for over 17 years.

In 2004, Destin experienced a massive spiritual reawakening while hitchhiking through southern Mexico. Since that time, Destin has made it his life’s purpose to help catalyze an elevation in global sexual consciousness.

http://www.destingerek.com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 53 I’m going to be interviewing one of my heroes in the Tundra fuel Destin Garrick and he’s going to give us a little bit of safe intro and tell us a bit about his background and then we’re going to talk about best practices for being part of the new masculine sacred masculine Paradigm so Destin thank you for being on the show and then Karen can I make you for having me at as request why don’t we all just take a moment to drop in together who knows what you were doing before you hit play on this podcast but just invite you to take a moment to stock everything else at the moment to close your eyes and just bring your attention Within feel the Earth beneath you gravity drawing you down towards the Earth weather at supporting bring your attention to those subtle Sensations like the feeling of your clothes on your body and how as you breathe your clothing shifts around your body and as you do that allowing your breath simply slow down and bacon allow each breath to get slower in each breath to get deeper than the one before. To the point where these could even be the slowest breaths on the deepest breaths that you’ve ever taken in your entire life and you may notice that with each of your exhalations your body becomes a little bit more relaxed a little bit more calm which of these equations your mind becomes a little more quiet a little more Style there’s nothing to do and nowhere to go slowing down and open to receive or we have to offer you if you’re able to and buy you to stay with your breath throughout this podcast how’s your ready where we going from here thanks so much that’s enough Exquisite I feel great and I am ready to receive your story a bit your pathway leading up to becoming a I thought leader and trainer in the new sacred masculine men’s movement I’m going to need some of your help here cuz my path has been very long and winding into our time here used on that each time I share my story comes up differently and they’re all true well let me see if I can let me see how much of your story I remember then you can track me how about that at the end of it all right so you are a you were traveling you were traveling at think in the in the south southern hemisphere and you are kind of finding yourself and you were in a relationship that was a relationship that you were not fully empowered in and something kind of snapped and you started to get heavily into empowerment through Contra sacred sexuality and then you’ve developed erotic Rockstar archetype two step two more empowered role and then you sort of worked with that for a while I became that to various degrees and then evolved more into you can say less will just be more of service to training men to become well I guess a little more grounded than a rockstar and now you only Robbins of Tantra and it’s not a bad summation to fill in some of those details okay so in 2004 after what I’m just going to refer to as hitting rock bottom in my life I’m having a psychological and emotional breakdown I went hitchhiking through southern Mexico with a backpack on my back and like no money to my name and figuring out how he’s going to get the next meal and how is going to get so wherever I was going next and as much as I thought that I’d hit rock bottom actually further bottomed out during this job and then there was a point where I just gave up I just gave up I wouldn’t have said that I was surrendering to the Divine or God or anything at the time because I didn’t believe in such things I just all I knew anymore was I didn’t know anyting and that was a very powerful moment because before then I swear I think I thought I knew everything I had it all figured out and there’s so much I was clinging to and I struggling with the when I Let Go when I gave up it just opened up the space and like a light switch being turned on suddenly everything check 18.2 a single day where weather moments who I was before I knew I was after we’re completely different or suddenly every person I was meeting every conversation I was having seems designed for this shift in my Consciousness and awareness to take place now I’m at a point 12 years later we’re at the Spaniards like that happens to me all the time but by the time it was it was brand new experience it was completely off life-altering and I relate to it as my Spiritual Awakening and and it before then my life was on this downward spiral every year altimate Leaf find myself feeling more disempowered ever since it’s been an upward spiral it. The say that every moment has been absolutely amazing that was certainly not my life has had many struggles and challenges in the time since many of the announcer if you look at it over time for each year is just just keeps getting better. Was it just keeps getting better at through every painting hardships still just getting better my connection to my own self my own spirituality my own power my own possibility my own impact on an influence on the world all this just keeps expanding as I have septeber and deeper into living my purpose thanks so do you do you want to talk a bit about the erotic Rockstar for people who haven’t figured that on this podcast with you I would I probably would not be here if it wasn’t for you and your promotion of that that archetype to tell you the truth it really Set Me In Motion I had what I I refer to as about 6 and 1/2 year erotic Rockstar journey and it’s not to say that he has completely wiped out for my life today but definitely two different chapter in my life and I spent my late teens to late twenties completely disconnected from my masculine I had developed a distrust of other men and a and with that I distrust of of my own masculine rooted in my high school sweetheart being raped on her 15th birthday right before we met and then us getting together for about three years and just feeling the impact of a trait throughout our entire relationship and then through whatever opened inside of me during that I became the go-to person for women that seem to share about their experiences and so I just being inundated with women sharing about their experiences to Imola call non-consensual sexual experiences I just developed a deep distrust of man and the masculine and I ended up spending the night at that decade really with no male friends certainly no hetero male friends everybody in my life for women wear their girlfriends or friends or roommates are bosses they are all women and I got very in touch with my fat with my inner feminine which carry many blessings by by the time I was in my late twenties I also realized something was horribly out of balance I was in a relationship with a woman that way I love dearly but I put her on a pedestal way above me I didn’t understand why she would even be with somebody like me and and guess what the relationship wasn’t working and simultaneously I had such a deep feeling inside of me that I had something but I wasn’t really do much of anything and I just got this sense of these two things were interconnected and ultimately I I I realize there’s something going on regarding my masculine feminine balance and I set out to make 2007 the year that I actively explored my messy alinity and what it means to me to be a man in the world and so I I had no idea when I said out on that Journey that it was going to be so powerfully transformative on all levels and that who I who I was was was going to just practically overnight in new me before and who I see now still can’t stop saying to me oh my God I did you like it you change so much the transformation was so potent that it ended become the foundation of the work that I do in the world and where I can reverse-engineer something that I did and the process that created and have improved people do it more effectively so anyway I it was then that the erratic rock star was born playing with this question of this idea of so what what is my what is my ideal of like masculine expression in the world now is already doing what you say is, but very academic like my sex Pizza I thought I knew the sexuality had something to do with it but I also got the sense that was to be expressed differently than how I was previously expressing it and she can you how do I say this so I start playing with the creation of an archetype I was limited by my ideas of who I was and who I wasn’t what I’m capable of what I’m what I’m not capable of but he has archetype there’s no limitation there he’s a figment of my imagination could be anything and you started writing about it a lot dreaming about it thinking about talking about it and it’s flushing out to this imaginary creature Cisco Burning Man Community where it’s very normal to kind of like play with character and costume and Craig costumes and things like that so DJ culture where is Sea Hunt as well as of 2007 which is filtering the rising and peaking of the whole pick up industry so while I was coming out of the Township community I was seeing this guy is happening and I was really confused cuz I was like I’ve been part of this time for a year already and pure suddenly this things happening in his dwarf the impact that we’re having a community where is most people don’t seem to be have that much of an interest in what’s going on at pick up Community has ballooned so rapidly all over the world what the fuck is going on especially when I look at it and I find so much of it so questionable so much of it can flying in the face of my ethics and so part of it for me as well was I wanted to prove whether to the world or to myself that it was possible to be spiritually oriented Heart Center. And still what will call extremely successful with the ladies and so all of these different flavors were put into this archetype that I was creating at as well as I just everything he was the opposite of everything so where is I may have been more reserves and certain spaces he was fully expressed the center of attention nothing yet his sexuality was not oppressor held back in anyway he was in full expression but it’s the one to make sure that wasn’t a light at that grasping needy through his body and end the out of his fights did it part of an expression of his being

Tantra Task Force Launches Shamanic Porn Initiative

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Tantra Task Force Launches Shamanic Porn Initiative

Las Vegas, NV (March 07, 2016) The Tantra Task Force has launched a shamanic porn initiative to address issues of abuse and exploitation inside and outside of the porn industry.

Noting a lack of sexual healing themes in porn, Tantra Punk (a Las Vegas based tantric sexual healer and founder of the Tantra Task Force) has felt the need to create shamanic educational and instructional adult films.

“The tension between anti-porn religious groups and pornographers can be resolved with a shamanic approach to sexuality that ensures sacredness, health, and healing while celebrating the joy of sex.” said Tantra Punk.

In his pilot shamanic porn film “Tantradelic Exorgasm”, he depicts a psychedelic sexual exorcism of a traumatic abuse survivor. “The video demonstrates how lovers can become sexual healers using a synthesis of ancient energy cleansing techniques”.

To view the Tantradelic Exorgasm video visit:
Tantradelic Exorgasm

For more info contact:
Ben Lawson
818-275-1593
Ben@TantraPunk.com
www.TantraPunk.com


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Christian Feminist Porn: Pray Hard for the Second Coming TPP46

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 tpp-46-pic In this episode I’m joined by MFP, my lead benefactress in my not-for-profit Christian feminist porn production initiative. She holds supportive space for me to tell a heart and gut wrenching story of my abuse and victimization as a survivor, former sex worker, and adult performer. We then explore a long chain of synchronicities leading to our new dharmic path as spiritual pornographers in service to healing the Earth and resurrecting the divine feminine.