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Urban Permaculture and Post-Pandemic Food Security with Sagrada TPP270

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In this episode I’m joined by Sagrada where I get on my soap box to answer some of her questions about urban permaculture and post-pandemic food security

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My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

S: Mom in east la, Paranoid, restless, gardening, getting into tarot, finally posting videos

TP: for a few months been in zombie apocalypse survival retreat bug out location farm stead site

trying to drum up online business, possibly sell of crypto at a loss, I got to a point where I decided I’ll take some calculated risks, maintain best practices for hygiene, physical distances, evolving protocols and procedures minding restrictions, come back to employment that I had, working for permaculture landscaping companies, with certified permaculture designer founders, one of them amazing former hollywood set designer, high end west side clients, beverly hills, santa monica, pacific palisades,

worked a lot in malibu, fancy parts of orange county

we’ve all be so drunk on prosperity, people do landscape yard make over, still kind of ornamental, even if more drought tolerant, still feel like you’d have to be a hippie to grow your own food, or veggie bed is quaint and cute, but I’m not gonna grow an edible jungle

Larry Santoyo, god father of LA permaculture, deep root, going back to the founders, trained a lot of people, paraphrase all these white hippie new age purple breathing wannabes want intergenerational households and back yard food forests, he’s like oh yeah, cross the la river on the east side and that’s the norm

I’m back in la. Swinging pick axes, because people want to grow food

tear up that front lawn, make some room in the parkways

essential services in agricultural sector, contracting ecological design, rain water harvesting, storm water diversion

still see mow and blow landscapers out there, poisoning insects, they’re out there doing their thing

we’re doing some more vital more protected, involving food production and security

interesting because one of last things I said to main employers after I ran to the hills, I love what we do, but I’m taking some time off while this is happening to build up my personal food security in the mountains, honestly I wouldn’t want to risk my life to just be flipping lawns in inedible ornamental landscapes, that’s the hill I want to die on, polishing brass on titantic, but if we’re gonna help people grow food, medicines, harvest rainwater, solar, composting, all the stuff we love to do for ourselves,

hope this supply chain shock, does what happened in cuba, ussr fell, had to be self sufficient over night, organic gardens every where, riding bikes, post peak oil, oil was cut off, crystal ball of the future

what has just happened with corona virus is an acceleration of what’s been predicted about climate change doom sayers

transapocalyptic business plan, help people grow food as licensed contractors

untouchable by gestapo, they gotta eat too, don’t break the hand the feeds you with that baton officer friendly

S: working in the garden composting in, rain catchers, filtering, lot of outdoor projects weren’t even able to get to fully because we were all working full time, perfect moment to spend more time and learn about that, gonna take permaculture certification, know practices more, getting hands dirty, even have fruit trees, is already super prepped to be a little edible jungle

wondering about a lot,

TP:

large percentage of content addressing this reality, feel like this is the time while people are paying attention and have the free time, the real stimulus package should be stimulating your soil, by stimulating it with compost tea, go back to work part time cuz you’re growing half your food

people geeky about permaculture already been doing this stuff for however long, wishing and hoping it would be the easy way not the hard way that their neighbors get on board, this is the hard way but not as bad as being at war,

ancestors were asked to fight the nazis, we’re just being asked to do nothing and stay at home

other people take the risk to feed you, could be a lot worse

S: psychologically damaging regardless, abrupt coercive, that’s how it feels, people really strong mentally, people who are gonna be okay, just wonder about people affected psychologically, gatherings, basic human things we are used to, not measurable, hasn’t been done before

the indefinite part of that, of all of this is what’s most draining

difficulty of it, following rules, not hard to do

TP: feel you on that, heart goes out to younger people, couldn’t imagine when my social circle was everything, now I’m more of a loner, it happens with age

when I was younger it was all about the group mind, clique, high school, punk scene, activist scenes, always hanging out

for me now, that’s not a priority, just want to do me, to be more secure

S: people who are single, recently heart broken, people who are teenagers, already don’t have freedom, now they have to be in abuse household, not in power, not in control of anything, I just wonder, if feel the energy of all that

TP: neighbors see you gardening?

S: people wearing masks, wondering if I should wear mask in my own yard

TP: yeah lead by example, studies are showing larger ranges than 6 feet to spread virus, Dr. Eric Ding take on headlines, on studies coming out, are the best, lot of good press and feedback, constantly myth busting things people use to minimize, rationalize cutting corners, whistling past the graveyard, so new, not one study could really be relied on the gospel truth, it could be disprove, everything is so new, highest level of precautionary principle, most extreme data 6 feet is not adequate, range of days living on surfaces, meters spread from the breath, like the idea of people getting crafty with making designer masks, making lemonade out of lemons

a lot less sickness will be passed around in general if this becomes the new normal, people won’t be so pressured to put on make up, different game of hooking up, gotta get to know someone cuz you can’t see their face

S: thinking about, a few plots of land, totally empty, guerrilla gardening, want to empower people but have to stay away from each other, don’t want to be the only garden on the block, for other people that live in la totally fine to garden on the parkway along the side walk, doesn’t belong to the property owner, belongs to the city

TP: Ron Finley guerrilla gardening civil disobedience, fought the city, made it possible for everyone to grow food in the parkway

S: heard about that, started one in 2017, in an apartment I used to live at, been gardening for a while, you gotta talk to people and let them know otherwise you’ll be the only one gardening, can’t eat everything, it’s good to share, its great, a lot of people don’t know that

home depots closing in some areas, chaining off the seeds, not allowing people to buy seeds, I don’t know, saw some pictures, seeds were off limits

TP: weird stuff in ag industry, I been posting on craigslist for bulk discount produce, millions being dumped, most tragic thing, if I had the infrastructure I’d be collecting it, for composting, and for replanting, garlic, chives, green onions, potatoes, carrots, pineapple, list goes on

grocery store lots can be replanted from the produce section, gives a head start, beets, sweet potatoes, water cress, herbs that are plantable, in soil, intact, a whole garden project out of what’s already still alive at the grocery store, wasting so much, all those people backed up at the food bank, this is farmageddon 2.0, all the people who are trained to know what a transition to a local food security economy we study the history and strategies, just tapping our feet, when do people say we need to stop relying on the globalized just in time supply chain, we need to do edible landscaping

everything in la county civil engineer landscapers, some plants have a purpose, but for the most part, it’s pretty much inappropriate, not native, inedible ornamentals, for shiggles for rich people to look at, public policy nightmare, public edible ecological food forests, hand full of cities in the us, broken free of phobia of public edible landscapes, partnerships, stake holders, designers, you can imagine, of all the community gardens that are out there, plagued by junkies that come and shoot up, racoons, rats, critters, you don’t just get to have this picturesque tidy urban farm that doesn’t attract a lot of other issues, to be rewilding the urban landscape so you have a resilient ecosystem you can forage in, you have to give up some creature comforts, fighting all the animals

dream big, this is the time me and my peeps are gonna try to nudge that paradigm with all the strength we can muster if we can survive ourselves this is a time to show people what they’re missing

S: suggestions for starting gardens? What about where are the seeds

TP: sunset nursery, favorite nursery

there’s a lot of stuff going on in micro and macro economic landscape, try to be a few steps ahead, not as much as the insider trading congress people, didn’t get to in that trade, bet against america and win hard, bankrupting all the poor people

in general being a few steps a head, chaos all these factors, the dollar is being inflated infinite printing money unprecedented levels dilutes, weakens overprinted mighty dollar, value becomes less, economy has to absorb falsehood of unbacked fantasy currency, not gonna be over night that it’s value reduced

bailouts in 2008, other times in history increased supply, history of fiat currencies around the globe in a war, a government has only two options, raise taxes or print more money, printing money is like raising taxes, stealing value from people

bitcoin based on a hard cap, limited fixed supply digital gold, can’t be inflated

unlike dollars

people overspend, go into debt, addicted to spending

that could be a whole series on how all that works, bring people on how can articulate pivotal points better than me

so many things are shut down, businesses activities shut down, less demand

supply and demand in decline because of covid-19, and value of dollar is decreasing

doesn’t just get rebooted by pressing the its okay to go back to work button

geographically isolated economic collapse, not usually whole world

in u.s. buffered by oceans in world war 2

empire the was able to restructure the world, pimp the bombed countries, 3rd and 4th worlds, now everybody’s taking a big hit

on one had, bargain deals of the millennium, people desperate, start dumping assets on market, prices will be driven down, things will be up for grabs

the counterbalance to that, simultaneously scarce items that are in demand will get price gouged, and scalped

raw capitalism

some goods and services are gonna be cheaper than they’ve ever been, then stuff that will be so scarce, people will pay anything for it

for me, be savvy, build a future by having capital in reserve, apply money to long term regenerative ecological assets, food security infrastructure, for local gardening

buy stuff when people are trying to sell

sucks to be pilfering, scavenging salvaging from people in distress, but hey if they’re happy to have whatever they can get for it, you’ll make them happy

that’s why I wanted to go back to work because if everything I want is gonna go on sale, I better have more money to get it

lot of people doing whatever they gotta do, don’t just spend money on whatever, invest as much as possible into regenerative infrastructure, seed stock, live stock

S: think this is gonna effect the price of houses and land

TP: real estate market gonna take a major hit, people can’t even see properties, virtual open houses, real estate industry still moving along but it’s tore up, people can’t move around

the further you get from hipster zones, the cheaper land gets, because of age of farmers in america now, buying opportunities like never before, last couple generations of farm families haven’t been maintaining the farms, gone to cities, to tech jobs, to college, average age of farmer if pretty old,

you could lease land and be a tenant farmer, not responsible for huge hidden cost burdens of owning property

helping them, retrofit to be organic, permaculture, they may have tractors, crops, maybe even a business, if we can take the leap of faith out of overpriced hipster urban zones, go back to land, will have way better options than during the dust bowl, ag industry devastated by ecological disaster, as bad as climate change is we can go back to the land, still have hipster culture online, don’t have to be a shit kicker at local saw dust joint

new movement of back to the landers, forced out of over priced hipster zones, help out aging farmers, bring new energy, could have a whole reboot of american ag sector, organic sustainable, we’ll be all the better for it, healthier happier, next time mega super bug comes around

public health, they didn’t come out and ban sugary products, obesity, diabetes cofactor in deaths from covid

be careful, don’t work to hard, don’t want to end up anywhere near the hospitals, stay healthy avoid the hospital for their sake and yours but get shit done and plant some shit

 

 

 

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The Egalitarian Future of Spiritual Leadership with Vanessa Soulxo TPP245

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In this episode I’m joined again by Vanessa Soulxo for a discussion on the shift from hierarchical to egalitarian spiritual leadership

About Vanessa:

Vanessa LeMaistre is a Spiritual & Soul Empowerment Activist. Her platform provides a self-improvement/positive lifestyle brand to customers who are looking to feel whole within themselves. Vanessa has overcome a lot and believes if she could, so can you. Vanessa is very inspirational and she aspires to inspire. She provides inspirational youtube videos on her youtube channel: www.youtube.com/uareart and on her social media platforms she promotes exerts and positive affirmations from her upcoming book. You can find her on social media platforms such as Ig, snapchat, Twitter under the name: vanessasoulxo which is also the name of her website domain. Her Facebook is her first and last name: Vanessa LeMaistre

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My Non Verbatim Notes:

VS: training in Colorado, graduating in may with resilient leadership program, focus on sustainability and social justice, great program, what are we gonna do with this kind of knowledge

interesting experience, expanded so much in ways, politically, climate crisis

download this morning: earth tells us how strong it is by showing us

we can damage, be so cruel with capitalistic ways, but mother earth is resilient

shamanic training, working with plant medicines

tarot reading, spiritual and intellectual, recommended naropa, eastern/western philosophy, perfect for someone who’s a seeker, however a lot of charlatans there

some professors spiritual leaders, major issues with…middle aged white men still stuck in the patriarchy

no longer this hierarchy, all about me, bow down to me and I take all the power, future of leadership, switch from hierarchy to more egalitarian, we’re all equal

taking away guru, bow down to me paradox, scarcity mindset

I have to be willing to accept when I need people who are more powerful than me

age of aquarius, take away old paradox of capitalism and hierarchy, one person on top

abusive treatment from spiritual leaders

Naropa’s in Boulder, spiritual hub, growing business, spiritual businesses, people are capitalizing on it, most of the people are fake, heartbreaking to see cultish behavior, the more followers a person has, the more manipulation

people called out yoga teacher on her healing that needs to happen, she went bezerk

if you’re on a leadership platform of any level, you should be ok to be called out, no body’s perfect

if you say I’m a healer, I’ve healed everything you’re a liar

witness middle aged white professors, spiritual leaders

ego thing

TP: professors should get paid on a curve, based on votes from students to balance the power

VS: students, pests, total followers, have no sense of self

spiritual jabs

you don’t throw jabs at students

you’re not coming from a kind place, so shut the fuck up

TP: can draw upon traditions of sadistic initiation and humiliation

the fuckery of Tibetan Buddhist, secret sex cult, academic analysis of distortion of men being in monastic chastity, creepy manipulators, collusion, hexes, spells, death threats

VS: last thing you want to do is be manipulating people by throwing spiritual jabs, because those cuts hurt deeper

plant ceremony circles, cultish mentality, manipulation, shaming everyone that comes there

are you actually doing the work, shows you really have so much work you need to tend to

forget you

TP: need to be roasted more often not less often if you have power

enlightenment, be kind and not criticize everything

Deepak Chopra, non-judgment

mind hacks, positive/constructive inner voice redirection

VS:

shambala center scandals, male dominated institutionalized sectors, zen buddhism, so male dominated

sexual tension is real, things are going down in an ill way

really sad

woman of color, not many at all in the spiritual industry in America, so much of what has arose has come from indigenous cultures even African indigenous cultures, raped, stolen

TP: sages, saints, prophets, messiahs, too much to ask of pantheon of god men, why isn’t there an exalted female voice representing the divine goddess or earthly embodiment

collective messiah, sisterhood witch coven, actually has each other’s backs, hard to find, not about most money, biggest boobs, clearest skin, politics are distorted, only thing I’ve seen work is magic mushrooms, tone down that ego

collective of empowered righteous medicine women, collectively channel a bigger voice

VS: we’re not sustainable, that paradigm is no longer sustainable, not balanced

Egypt: ancients believed when a man achieved a high amount of knowledge spiritual and power, he would be allowed to wear a long haired wig to symbolize that he had reached a certain level of that equal to a woman

behind every successful man is a strong woman holding him up, keeping him balanced, bringing him peace

recognizing each other’s strengths

look at all these buildings, not sustainable

machismo, misogynistic mentality, disrespecting yourself

you’re describing the woman in the house that I’m initiating into

not getting vibe of competitive, ego, money power, real sisterhood, shocked right now

TP: not an economy of male attention, have each other’s back, like links of armor together

VS: there was one guy that they where gonna bring in to initiate into our house, mother of the house started asking for dreams, said she had dreams that were very revealing about him, how he was betraying and backstabbing, the way the sister’s joined it was unbelievable, if anyone messes with any one of us, we’re all gonna have each others back

TP: dream of goddess temple , powerful men, bow down to fem domme’s

VS: that’s what we need, systems are so broken, education, judicial, health, how can we bring in more divine masculine, and divine feminine, lacking, how can we merge spirituality with these systems for greater collective awaking

TP: divine feminine is coming through no matter what, divine masculine, it’s gonna be a struggle, to topple the demonic overlords, if you could push a button to dissolve homophobia, divine masculine would fill hearts of all men on earth

men want to play with witches, gotta give each other coconut oil massage first

VS: amazing people, transgendered, no how to bring in both, balanced, gurus, two spirited, amazing human beings, kind, empathetic, understanding things differently

TP: tantric alchemy, triangle, masculine feminine bottom corners, ascension of kundalini, meet and become one at the top

VS: back in 2017, working at crystal shop in venice, beach, santoria woman comes in calls me out, you’re haitian, already reclaimed you, just haven’t initiated you yet, I was doing my own spiritual thing, predicted I would be working with plants

when joined program, friend invited me to a cacao ceremony, I’m thinking I’m gonna do chocolate, heard it opens heart, makes more loving, there’s a fire pit, middle of night, circle, passing around green powered, why is this green, whatever, dark paste to put on gums, must be cacao, intense vulnerable experience, beautiful

wasn’t cacao, that was coca, in concentrate form, door way led into whole path with medicines, microdosing with magic mushrooms, ayahuasca, universe is smart, had I known it was coca I would have been like no I’m not doing that

TP: decriminalization nature movement, entheogens decriminalized in Santa Cruz,

dance with haitian priestesses, throughout development, haitian shamanic revolution, invocation, deities, ancestors, spiritual revolution, not marx, not communism, party line, indigenous, totally

VS: all this stigma about what voodoo is, that is how they won the revolution in 1804 no other black free nation until 150 years later, cecile fatiman, pig ceremony started the revolution, shamanism, paganism, trance like states

what led me to this path, haitian priestess voodoo initiation, getting into plants, connecting with ayahuasca, beautiful experience for shipibo, saw me, called to that medicine, wanna find who I’m gonna learn from

got back from jungle, grandmother, what are you doing in the jungle taking medicine, pagaism, witchcraft, when that happens, when you’re called its not you, you’d not choose voodoo, voodoo chooses you

TP: you do you and voo doo you

VS: lineage is calling you, ancestors wanted you to leave California to get you some where calm and quiet so they could start tapping in, all these dots started connecting

researching portals, deities, very powerful, not spirits you want to take lightly, have a lot of sincerity, they can get upset if you disrespect them, I’m learning a lot

mother of house did a reading, can’t just pay to be a high priestess, spirit needs to confirm initiation, its not for everybody

born into hatiain lineage

grew up with mallato family, strong french presence, history of haiti, didn’t allow voodoo, combinations of saints because they were not allowed, raised catholic, all about white is right, american dream

had to come to truth with myself, with my soul, intense level I’m being called

TP: mixed healing arts

VS: I’m a make up of 3 races, I feel equally connected to plant medicines, and bringing in hatiain high priestess patheon, making it my own modernized way, very empowering, I go march 10th, I’ll be back the 24th, that initian is pretty intense, you’re told mysteries, I don’t even know what I’m getting into

Bufo toad, 5me0 dmt, more powerful than ayahuasca, really excited

TP: you’re feeding your fire with the antics of the patriarchs, so shallow, so obvious, paradox of ego, just the desire to destroy ego is a from the ego

VS: constantly check myself, not doing it primarily for me, doing it for others service, finding that balance, last thing I want to do is be a slave to my calling, constant checking am I happy, will this make me happy, wanna be happy getting up everyday doing the work, take some of the me out

TP be frugal, live simply, if majority of net worth being directed towards healing, transformation, liberation, you’ll continually get resupplied, just like a garden

VS: plan, determined to have a church, self love center, don’t want a podium, just sit down in a circle and just talk, everyone welcome, atheists are welcomed, that’s how I’d bring people to god, hopefully empower each other, getting closer to our truth

balance of old traditions but being radical, finding balance

really called to go to l.a. really scary, demonic forces there

TP: align with nature you’ll be blessed, beach, ocean, hiking trails, protected wild areas, wild coast line

things about la that do drive me crazy and make me sick

I been here chasing dreams, having enough come true I’m ready to chill more, enjoy fruits of labor put in over the course of almost 20 years, done really well, almost like vegas too, if you don’t have your shit together it can tear you apart and drag you down

VS: living in heart of hollywood, studio apartment so peaceful, 3 am , yelling, toxcity, energy so intense, I have to be shielded on another level spiritually to go in and do the work

TP: have a yard, ecosystem you can draw from, rather than be stacked in an apartment, co-op houses, yard spaces garden sanctuary, capture rain water, transforming homes, eco sanctuaries

where ever you go don’t lose that connection to the soil, have more freedom, hang clothes out to dry, pets will have a better life

you can be safe from crime, but not safe from neighbors who don’t want you to grow food in your front yard

east of l.a. river, parties all night long, soulful dance music

pacific palisades, between malibu and santa monica, coast line, trails, less population, still half hour away from sunset strip, if you want to play that game, it’s a gamble, tango with the matrix

VS: start small, hopefully get congregation to build it up, lets expand, love to have a store too, do workshops, give people opportunities to shine there light, on different things, diversity, inclusivity, reinvent our current