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Ben Tantra Punk in the Garden in front of the Pond

Sweet Sage, Micro Chinampas, SUV Wheel Barrows and More Land Lessons TPP252

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In this episode I share more land lessons and updates focusing on a stainless steel sink to aquaculture conversion, sweet sage, and more

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

Rural farmsteading survival retreat project

using a salvaged dual basin giant commercial grade stainless steel sink, its a dream micro green seed starting, and potentially micro chinampa aquaculture, microcosm of the earth experiment

post plastic in horticulture, eliminate vectors of carcinogens, goddess knows what other ungoddessly things go into these colors, mixtures

supply chains of plastics, stuff coming from less regulated countries, its really problematic, toxic, I don’t trust it I don’t like it, it’s hideous, eye sore, feel negative vibrations coming from this ill gotten material

I’m a purist or snob, so be it, spiritual purification, karmic purification, the more local, the more organic, the more fashioned with hand tools the better

algo of trained permaculturalist, there’s a frame work of how ethical, how toxic, everything has a different ranking in ways of analyzing and assessing the threat vector

anything stainless steel is gold, to me its worth more than gold for my purposes, who knows I have to look in to culinary applications of gold, maybe it is superior, in any case when I say this unused by salvaged, stainless steel giant sink, it’s a monster, its great

if you can imagine this, guided meditation here, could be a system that could literally actually provide for a huge percentage of my food intake, calorie, macro nutrient, micro nutrient

excited to see how much production I can get out of the system, journey of imagining

I don’t know how many gallons but basically probably like between 2-4 cubic feet of space in each basin, several cubic feet of water in basins, then there’s a couple inches, probably a good 2 to 3 maybe 4 square feet of space on either side of the basins, like a table top, but there’s this lip that comes up the top, you could fill the basins,

water would go above the basins, extra couple of inches that spans the left and right, higher flat surfaces, that makes two different depths, so much like what you’re wanting to do in designing a full size pond, mimic natural earth formations, the outer perimeter gradation of shallow areas, different plants like different levels of depth of water

so the more gradations of shelves in a pond constructed, designer pond the better so that you can actually have plantings at different levels

in this case with that two inch area at either side of the basins that’s where you can have micro greens that are subirrigated

if you keep water level topped off, two big shallow ends and two big deep ends, the seed starting can happen in the thin shallow area

being post plastic, I’m thinking those little tera cotta pots, putting sand in the submerged part, then potting soil or seed starting mix above the water level, it will be consistently moist but will not drown the roots

giving them a gradation, from total submersion to moist, to drier as you get towards the top of the organic growing medium, soil, compost or sifted mix

that’s gonna be a hedge against the dry climate where, nursery in a climate this dry, desiccating winds, draw moisture away, this buys time you have time to take trips away, its a reservoir

that your growies are in

I first saw this done probably back in 2009 at a friends farm where they had a green house, subirrigation set up, lot of seedlings in those 4 inch plastic pots

I mostly used plastic, long storage trays those have worked well, though in the sun, plastic is a problem, if it’s getting beaten by the sun, it just turns to peanut brittle, it just breaks apart

this is a dream come true, to have this sink thing to work with, pulled it out of a trash heap, dusted her off

it’s got some holes, doesn’t have legs, not in ideal places, but got it hoisted up and next thing will be to experiment with a non toxic way of patching these holes

I’ll leave it a surprise, it may be a laughable embarrassing experiment, I’ll spare myself the humiliation, if it works I’ll be very proud to announce it

you could do so many things to have the most hygienic toxin free growing set up and you’ll end up using some component of some kind, for plumbing, or irrigation or patching something and you’re introducing another, no matter how hard you try , even the rubber sink stoppers you lose a point on that

unless if what I’m trying to do seal the holes works, I can use it on the stoppers

I’m not trying to be hypochondriac, or super neurotic, I’m just at a point where it’s more about art, there’s an artisanship, a standard of integrity I want to now aspire to, slow down to a pace of where I’m not trying to cut corners

I’ve grown food in buckets, feed chickens with road cones, I remember what those things smelled like after a day in the sun, I’m over it, no I’m over it, it’s worth it to have a this more refined and elegant experience

if I want to have a healing center where people go to experience nourishment at a higher standard, also the alchemy the intention, it matters

eliminating those variables I’m ready for it

whatever excuses I had before, urban guerrilla gardening, everything’s salvaged from the waste stream

this is an opportunity

to be a more refined more mature

moving on to other things

it was nice to have already prefabricated perfectly sized sifting apparatus, hardware cloth, about ½ square grid, more sturdy, and smaller cell mesh

mainly sifting compost so you can get smaller grain material

so seedlings, sprouts don’t have to work too hard to push around, they’ll do it they’ll break through concrete, but why not make it easier

the feel the joy of sifting compost, spiritual alchemy, really a nice meditation to do that, go through that process,

there’s this deluxe, almost double the size of the volume of a normal wheel barrow, two wheels, still tilts up and down, one of the most ergonomic , it’s like an suv or a truck, of a wheel barrow

this sifter that was already made, a frame of one by one, I don’t know where you would see them, almost like, more like 1.5, a little more than 1 inch, about the width of the stake if you were to imagine the stakes that go through a vampires heart, like the ones in Lost Boys, 1x1s or there abouts

looks like a window frame, some people add extra hardware or extra miter cuts to make it more sturdy

sifter just drops on top of the suv wheel barrow so you can shovel loads of compost on it

lift, shape, rubbing circles, instant breast massage training system, is it just me am I just a pervert? Or am I doing the Mr. Miyagi, wax on wax off version of tantra, could be a breasts, could be a gay butt massage, I’ve done it all

any time you have a chance to sift compost it will up your game in the bedroom and on the massage table

enjoy that process and know you’re being a part of the care that’s gonna make whatever you plant very happy, whatever seeds you’re trying to grow, you’re doing them a favor

I do believe I stumbled on a couple of mullein plants, I won’t give a huge discourse on mullein , I’ve used in herbal cigarettes, helps to quit smoking

kicking the habits of nicotine cigarettes, what to still have the ritual, I’ve had herbalist friends, lovers, who’ve done amazing jobs with transitional herbal cigarettes, they’d argue beneficial for the lung, certainly not as harmful or addictive, I enjoyed it, it was uplifting, adding value in a way more holistic sense

people are gonna smoke weed, why not through in some other herbal ingredients

I’ll have to have someone on to talk about it sometime

I’ve phased in and out of smoking cigarettes, at least since 2016, 2017, its been a couple years at least since I could no longer stomach cigarettes at all, I’ll tell that story another time

mullein it’s an amazing fuzzy soft totally adorable, stoked to find that, and encourage that and look for it in other places,

also very exciting there are at least 2 or more varieties of sage

mexican sage, I’ve worked with it before in my landscaping career, been able to score a bunch of it, it’s weird, when you burn as a smudge, it actually kinda smells in a good way like tobacco if you have any affections towards it, I do

I don’t like the smell of what smokers end up smelling like and I was one of them, it’s not like the ash tray smell, it’s the best of the aromatics of tobacco smell,

doesn’t seem to be used as a smudge, but because I came up on a bunch, I thought I’d try it, it’s definitely not like the epic white sage, which I will be planting on the land

so mexican sage, that’s there

I was told, this other variety, was called sweet sage, I feel like someone just told me there’s another planet in the galaxy and the planet is even more lush than earth, discovering this sage, it really upstages white sage, the why it smells, alive on the bush and also the smudge factor of it, I don’t know how I’ve never encountered it before, never even heard of it before, to me it’s the earth’s fucking best kept secret, the most epic, beyond white sage, smudgable, I’ll have to look into it’s other uses

I’m sure the natives really made the most out of this plant, it’s amazing

I have to book up on the latin names, and actually I have somebody I will be asking about it next week, who is an absolute geek expert on all things california native sage

hopefully you’ll love it as much as I do and steward it’s natural habitat and want it to flourish

if you love white sage like I love white sage, and you could imagine that it’s possible that something could even take you further into that realm of absolute heart melting love of a plant for its properties, of purification of the mind, the smoke of it, the smell of it

probably one of the bigger highlights

there’s more on my list which is great, I could rush and try to cram in a bunch more, but I’m going to take my time

so be it, I hope its not torturous to hear me wax poetic about this permaculture stuff, hopefully it gets you excited about exploring your neighborhood more, no excuse not to get immersed in wildness, participate in nature by gardening

thank you for joining me as I expound upon my new loves in this ecological romance, I’ll try to do this at least once a week depending on what else is lined up

definitely at least once a week, the list grows everyday, hopefully I’ll never be caught up, and I’ll never feel rush to cram and short change any of these fun and exciting things

again I want to exercise the imagination, so many times in a day when I think about when I was trying to pump my numbers on social media,

when I was addicted to social media posting, I’m so glad I’m not abusing every moment, just me, no offense, me talking about my own experience

as a primitivist I’m supposed to not be into technological mediation, doesn’t mean I’m not gonna use computers, the internet, but I’m not gonna drink all the kool-aid at once

I used to post so many pictures of lots of cool stuff, but I’m going to use this opportunity to exercise the imagination, and the ability to verbally describe

healthy, deeper, more beautiful practice to a be a story teller

maybe someday you’ll visit and see with your own eyes, or discover in your own vicinity, value to verbalize this stuff rather than just spoon feeding it out with photographs

following up with comments, they deserve the best, but I think there’s a more elegant place to be in and I’m enjoying it and it’s working my imaginal, and descriptive and literary muscles, I hope you’re as in love with live as I am

Psychedelic Goddess Worship: Behind the Book with Wilhelm Cortez TPP187

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In this episode I’m joined again by my dear beloved soul bro of more than two decades, Wilhelm Cortez.  (Listen to our first episode here) We’ve both been working hard in collaboration on overhauling and editing the manuscript for my forthcoming first book entitled: “Psychedelic Goddess Worship: Erotic Memoirs from the Astral Battlefield”.

I thought it would be fun and engaging to give a bit of a “behind the book” commentary so we could both compare notes and commiserate on the arduous process of co-creating hopefully a potential modern epic.

We discuss the backstory of how our personal life journeys have intertwined throughout the years going back to the old days in the Portland Gutter Punx scene and the forest defense encampments, then we give an overview of the events leading up to his encouragement and editorial role for my articles on the Good Men Project website, then we cover the events leading up to the formation of the Connection Victory publishing company. This leads to our dialog about the inner-workings of the book editing process, discovering emergent properties hidden between the lines, getting stuck and unstuck, converting an otherwise dry pseudo-scientific pseudo-academic tome, into a sci-fi-esque romance novel, and much more.

It has and will continue to be a great honor to have his expertise and wisdom informing and guiding the project in ways I could never have imagined. It’s a trip how the book is a sort of living creature filled with its own paradoxical angels and demons. We discuss how since Wilhelm has been involved, he has in different ways become both entangled and liberated through the process.

We’re looking forward to an official release later this year, stay tuned!!!

Please connect with Wilhelm via email at: globalnomadway (at) gmail (dot) com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved smoke Natasha Punk podcast episode number 187 I am here again with Wilhelm Cortez and we’re going to talk about the evolution of our unique and beautiful co-creative relationship through various are writing initiatives that he got me on board with writing for the good men project a number of years ago now and we have a personal back story that we discussed more in previous episode that we did so we had originally done a podcast together episode number 81 the good men project with exact editor Wilhelm Cortez and in that episode you can hear more about our background meeting up in Portland in the days of the Portland gutter punks and and also hanging out in the forest and just being a part of Northwest good old American Street Punk Eco Punk activism in the Northwest and and his journeys in travels and how we we kind of read and we’ve together in various the very Point sometime just kind of a soul Brotherhood that has really blossomed now in the present moment as he’s not only be at me he has become my my dream copyright editor you know of that had not had anyone in my life be supported of my work in that way and it’s always just been me kind of winging it and I have I wouldn’t say I’m a prolific writer but I wrote a column for the profane existence anarcho-punk magazine and you know I’ve always just wrote zeins and Roll lyrics and wrote pretty profusely just in my own my own life I guess I would say that I I do this prior to eventually be an author but the impetus to really do that didn’t come together for me until just the last I guess the last few years that I’ve been in in the zone of actually producing a manuscript that is a I buy a biographical almost science fiction sort of Epic that is titled now psychedelic goddess worship erotic Memoirs from the astral Battlefield and so it really encapsulates and depicts a lot of the journey that I’ve been on that various podcast previous podcast have brought on characters from my life story that are in the book by fictitious names it’s it’s it’s it’s it is really the the text formatting of of all the videos I’ve been doing and in Black post and what not and who better to actually be the one to help me organize and make sense of all of this material than the man my dear friend here it’s already been editing articles that I have been writing for the good men project website so there there’s just been a again this this interweaving of synchronicity that’s brought us together in various contexts and couldn’t ask for a better and more blessed experience of having the help and support I need to do it every crazy maniac creative artist author type person writer whatever they need somebody to actually bring things down to earth on occasion and sort things out and really be a soundboard and so this is my first experience of having that level of care and concern for my life story and it’s pretty much just been me trying to make sense of things on my own and sometimes having the state intervene or like the mental health system intervene and trying to help me sort things out you know little bit of families and lovers here and there but this is a real gift to have somebody to help me with the cat all this madness and all this material and and make it into something that hopefully will will touch the soul of humanity and heal the soul of humanity to especially for those who can commiserate and have been to various you know similar forms of them no trauma and whatnot so that is just sort of to orient this conversation what I love to do when we get into the sort of body of this is to First bring have Wilhelm bring us up to speed on on his sort of perspective his narrative on what it’s been like to interact with me and get to this point in this process and then we’re going to get into really the bitter the behind the pages if you will on where we’re at in the editing process of this manuscript and and some of the I would call it these beautiful emergent properties of of two heads being better than one on trying to understand how to frame this material and get into some of the bloopers probably and it’s just some of the everything you did you’d come to love about it like a movie director producer commentary bonus feature that’s my that’s my goal is to have that that affect your even though the book is is not yet out when it is when it comes out this will be a nice can into to enjoy it with so with all that said well I’m thank you for being with my intro and thank you for being here and how are you doing what’s new with what’s happening was a very gracious introduction and I thank you for that and also as you mentioned since the book still isn’t out and we’re still really kind of in the middle of the chaos storm of editing this thing it’s also I see it as a challenge to continue on with it because it is been quite a bit of a journey and it all kind of started with the seats Mew no looking back at the first article that you published with the good men project these little things are more valuable than oil where to go and talk to you about the environment and and basically seeds and keeping not and how that all works together really that’s where we started off and it was kind of funny I was scanning through the articles that you did for championship and the way but we really go up to where I think you really wanted to be talkin about the whole time which was you know how to how to survive and how does she feel and how to give back and that’s really what we see and you know we had our little you know not really problems or anything along the way but you know if you’re familiar with the good men project you trying to cross the border but we also we have a very very PG-13 rating and the first draft of how to make love like a god editorial staff at the time but you know working through it we we discovered a lot we discovered a lot more about the the emotive core beyond the physical and how to really talk about in a dress. And I really feel like the work on that article kind of kicked off the creative literary relationship between us this really you know putting it back for those of you go back and listen to the previous podcast in the Back store is really the mature Asian of this journey we’ve been on through various different weird intersections in our lives that kind of brought it together so that brings it up to that day when you asked me you know hey I was putting together all this stuff for a storage at the science fiction and about this Tantra and scalene inbox as you said in about an about more and I was just like what is this Beastie is creative Sprouts sourcing editing for it and I’m like oh you’ve got like getting now we’re getting entered like dimensional in the complex that he’s here that’s when I was just kind of like will send me what you got and you did and when I started to go through it it was like oh okay deep breath this is the story this is the one that you’ve been alluding to you been talkin about and caulking around and then all your other work was working towards you know and actually get in getting it all laid out but the first presentation basically that you gave me was really readable and interesting for an archivist doing research on recovery and healing from trauma but for an audience that is a lot more than that and that actually need that healing process support cuz we know like within the society that has been constructed based off of the oppression and abuse of so many different demographics you know this is what I’ll try not to get too distracted talking about like ecofeminism and all of the connections that we have. But I think it to put it in a really lame in an easier one package has one of the phrase I used with you when we were talking about what we were going to do with all this material that you would collect it together all this material that you had compiled all of these notebooks that he would process all of these transcripts all of this words what are we going to do with it and it was like I saw the power in the story as being a power and that you know it’s like the popularity of something like Fifty Shades of Grey which is like really problematic on so many levels like you know like relationship-wise socialize abuse wise oppression wise and for me is an editor like you know how to get the story across indicative through and that what we actually had the potential for was the type of story that the kind of as interest it’s like people like and watch and he read about and participate in sexual intercourse and this is a good healthy and presenting it in a good healthy way is that Rod wood to dry in. Kind of leadership wants to have that in their literature or in their imagination to deliver it in a way that is healing and uplifting that was kind of worried you know I watched off and it was like another one of those happy you know synchronicities coincidences designs plans people just randomly having things happen things had worked out through another executive editor at the good men project Lisa blocker who I worked with quite closely for about 2 or 3 years and in that time we started developing this idea of a publishing company and to get out ideas about social justice ethics gender and sexuality spirituality mental health to get exposure for writers who don’t necessarily have the resources to put it all together because it’s doing publishing it’s like you may have the best but how are you going to deliver to your readers if you have so many more steps so what we have with connection Victory publishing is promote these ideas as well as these writers that we have a connection with the are part of our you know our society are social family part of our community wise man so that’s when I pitched the idea to you that I’m about like a you know how about if we do this book and we take the Sun and I was stoked because what could be more what could be a bigger honor than to be under the wings of to Powerhouse editors from the good men project that means more to me on a personal and spiritual level let alone a professional and resume sore level than if I was to go with or seek out or just send the manuscript out and just have whoever was the highest bidder or something you know be for me to be just in that Machinery I like your saying too if I was at going up going about the route I’m just saying I’m have my friend my friend who flips houses gave me this great little bit of wisdom very kind of Dallas kind of things do they say they said that because it will be out there they’re flipping houses this is little bit of side note but it’ll it ties him in a good way it says they were after flipping houses which means they’re out there and they’re already very wealthy but they want to hang onto as much Capital as they can so they they will actually do a lot of the manual labor themselves you know scraping off paint pouring concrete and doing the tiles and tearing out carpets and all that stuff they would just as a family they would get together and it would sort of swap out rules to to flip houses and do all that and but they didn’t have to they could have paid someone to do it but they kind of wanted to just keep it in-house a bit but they said they had this bit of wisdom amongst them that they share with me what she said they said if you start to get the fuckits it’s expecting you you had enough doing some tasks in your about to start your feeling the temptation to cut corners and just get it over with I say stop stop when you get the fuckits and go do something else and come back another day when you’re refreshed and ready to do it right and I had I had gotten to the point where I didn’t I was not integrating that was them and I had had the fuckits with this process and that’s why I said I wanted to just crowdsource the editing and just say alright I’m letting the I’m letting the community steer this ship and it like it could be a Wikipedia have its own website which is a Wiki and people could do a fact checking and correcting and grammatical stuff and I’m just going to like going to go meditate in the mountains or something but it was a sweet deal to have you and have all this come together and for me to say okay this is I was like I guess I wasn’t probably going to go after some other Publishers and go through that process or tonight and I wasn’t going to raise do it I wasn’t going to do I get a Kickstarter or something for it cuz I just don’t have that that Network to leverage your Liam pretty much an itch with an itch so so it’s been a huge gift to have the the the gamble the business Gamble and the professional Gambler love that hoodie that you I feel like you are betting on me and I want to do my best to be a winning bet for for the Enterprise and for the reputation and everything so it is it’s also like a reason for me to be at an upright Citizen and M2 now we’re sort of in a reputational report as well and end with the good men project that’s a huge I don’t want to say burden for me to self remaining you know in the light of the light be reputable and and make sure that my path is is impeccable to certain standards and so it’s it’s a hopefully I am I can I will sustain that and and yeah it’s it’s an I guess I just want to make that point that there’s something beautiful about there being a friendship involved in this editing process that deep friendship and Anna and that ability to go through the sort of push back and the pull back and all of that which gets into the the the compromise of the actual and in the process I couldn’t imagine going I couldn’t imagine being in some cold sterile lifeless Dynamic with under a contract where you just want to let you know I’m sure I know a lot of authors go through that or a lot of creative people just go through as well and someone else has some Authority there the process like what’s the title going to be with the cover are going to be and it’s going to be it’s just been a very very nice homey welcoming process working together so far and and yeah I think that that that’s a good a good rap on the sort of the form of this of this process now if you want to get into the content and I am really I love for you to start to start us off with that and I’m I will come in with them with some thoughts about how really you saved my life in this process you’ll probably count you’ll probably introduce it for us but if not I will all follow up with it so it’s oh yeah what would you say now about the your perspective on after we ain’t the deal in in in your Yugioh you’re you’re now incentivized with with the under your under under your relationship with the company you know you’re incentivized to do this as and now we’re now we’re Partners right we’re now and now we’re Partners more so than before and so so you’ve got it you’re digging in and was being of the socket and capricci not too late and you know throwing that causing you to throw it out to this idea of when you presented it to me I was like this Echo back to the forest it was like she’s going to try to do editing by consensus in a group and it’s like you remember how that would usually turn out it would usually the people saying fucking walking away from the meeting story it’s like we’ve got to figure something else out with it and this will you know you remember when I read through and was looking at it we were trying to figure out what is really the story we have here because as it was presented a common thing that you know any writer does especially when they’re drafting something is we have this tendency to fall back on the front of logical trying to be autobiographical it’s like you’ve got the order of events in the order they happened to your head because you lift and so when you start to write on your right or that way and especially for the Contemporary audience it’s like it just really isn’t compelling to read send you out in the layer that you know there’s a lot of the chronology of this story before you get to anything that is kind of a feel-good moment and so thinking about the reader in my it’s like I was like all right we need to do something from the story a beginning part that is compelling the makes sense that has a vehicle to tell the story through maybe so that we don’t have to like try to Drudge through all of this really heavy dark demonic schitt’s until we get to the end of the book when everything’s resolved because contemporary readers aren’t going to do that so that was really the first layer yes and then so you can see how you can you use skillfully set this up so I can introduce that what it was that that evolved into the solution to that conundrum and and it was the way that you were able to really get me woke about the situation I didn’t put up much of a fight at that moment cuz I knew you’re a hundred percent right and it wasn’t hard to convince me at that point because literally in the manuscript I gave you the sort of prologue or the sort of preface was that it was actually a warning to say you’re you’re going to you really have to be I don’t remember exactly exact words it was totally there the least inviting yeah I like abandon all hope ye who enter something kind of think so and it and really I would have to have I would have to be a rockstar or some other form of established sensation for four people to to actually break that seal and go through it on her own but if there’s a given where it where I’m at right now you know I don’t have and I had thought about that too unlike you know this is probably something I will publish for a lot of reasons I’ll wait until my dying day whenever that is to sign some authorization for this to be released and I had thought about how well there’s people who were alive who are referencing the story and it’s not going to take you no more than putting two and two together you know to match people and places and what not and of course you have to have for legal reasons keep it a fictitious Encompass the ticket fictitious names but you know but I’ve I’ve lost a bit of sleep wondering how certain people will will react to how they’re involved in in the in the story I feel like I’ve done my best to try to make everyone involved have some sort of some sort of a dental qualities or what not but but that I guess it’s another story but getting getting into that that that critical moment of every frame at at the beginning and end what you told me about making it you know accessible to read making it actually it has to be enjoyable even if it’s disgusting and it has to be so otherwise like you said and I got that immediately as well as if you want to create something that people if you want to create a material that can be published in a peer-reviewed journal of academics who want to study sexology or paranormal psychology for a second science or whatever then I’m sure you could present I could presented a conference and say that this is my research and here’s my crazy manuscript that’s 400 pages and transcription and all of his chronology but for it to be a novel or have that that scalability in the culture it certainly there’s enough love there’s enough ice to I think I remember hearing recently somewhere that I think on IMDb or something like that a Shawshank Redemption is still one of the most on something by some Metric Shawshank Redemption is considered still the most worshipped movie ever and I can’t say that’s box office sales of some other metric but that is not a particularly there’s no wet there’s almost no women in the movie there’s almost no romance in that movie it’s a bunch of guys in prison raping each other beating each other and try and in trying to escape from the most heinous abusive abusive Authority but it is the Redemption of hacking the system and figuring out how to find your soul and find what matters in and I even believe in from antonchak sense there’s a moment where the Shakti energy is comes through the speakers when he had when he breaks that he gets the record and he locks himself in that they’re the PA room and he plays the opera singers out you know that that’s the goddess right there so if that story can do what it did and that was a Stephen King story and then made into a movie and all that thing but it has to have that a certain Cadence in a certain flow and in in a certain mystery for people to have to put in meat meat meat the story Halfway by having a Kinect dots and not having its food Fenton spoon-fed over the course of a chronology with all of this dance academic material so so the thing that I guess before I get or nah I’ll let you a personal say okay from now on when I say when we say the words we receive the letters mfp we are referring to Magic fucking pussy who is who was my Divine tantric dakini consort who really takes most of the credit for giving giving me the most blessed in the most Redemptive outcome that would that was that wasn’t suicide and it wasn’t deeper addiction and depression and just melt melt down and it really the the hero of the story that didn’t exist in the manuscript because a manuscript was just a telling of events up until right before I actually got involved with mfp in real life it was all just painful dark negative and then some some spiritual Revelations and some some spiritual insights about how these things all work and how trauma works and how abuse works or is how it functions I should say but but there was no payoff and there was no really beautiful romantic Redemption and that but but but that did actually in the manuscript I was I had not included the the what would have just been the next chapter in the chronology was like oh yeah and then I met this woman who totally like loved on me the way I needed to be loved on and vice versa and now you have that element of a beautiful enjoyable school and you were the Catalyst Wilhelm in this process of making me have an aha moment to say wait I do have a device and it’s not a contrived device it’s actually the most beautiful lakes in the pearl it is she has been and is and is in the story The did the did the Highlight the Pearl the trade however you want to do when a call is so I’m kind of fumbling now trying to put in contacts but I’d love to have for you to talk about how how we navigated that that sort of question mark of how to make it a story a really difficult rhinology Indian Redemption you’ve got that and what better way to make it more palatable than to make it a love story you know and that’s kind of where it’s funny because you are you and your listeners know of mfp me in my mind it’s j because that’s the character named you used to develop the love story that we needed to really tell this story and it was really like you going fast-forwarding through all of that story and realizing there was this anchor moment of the healing Journey where there was it was Mutual it was like Drew The Mentor in Bohemian came and it was like house flipping the whole thing around it’s instead of leaving Las Vegas word entry in Las Vegas right from the get-go we should never put her clothes back on I whispered after catching my breath you know and it’s like once that was there it was like okay now we have a way to really tell the story but it stopped perfect way that was already in coded in the story to begin with it was just a matter of writing it in it has been missed in the first few passes but it makes sense in the the process of compiling the story because going through and transcript going through court records going through Protective Services records going through cancer only through your old journals remembering the stories and writing them out and through all of that as well as having the emotional distance of the writer in transcribing all of this stuff in also once we unlock that box and discovered this the perfect element that was already there that’s when it’s like hey okay we just start not from the beginning of this life story of this drama we begin with the mentoring of the one who gave the healing that’s where my real story is and that’s where it’s funny because it’s like you know it’s it’s your life story but it’s her story right amazing yesterday at sunshine remember that I have a moment because you’re asking me the conversation was it would I we just have to come up with something to make the NIT really at night how could I have I guess the way the only logic that I could I could imagine I’m sure I was going to send you the time is it will but that’s that would be the second volume because right in that they can go to the vet that just that that that krinock chronological bias there’s not going to be a second volume to put it in so there’s another Cosmic giggle at work here which is at I just I’ve been binge-watching a lot of them making of movies behind the scenes could type of movies because of the the the dabbling and in film that I’m doing and and I just really are so many movies that have built me in that are in my heart and so I get almost the most pleasurable experiences that I have fully clothes I should stay or come from watching these behind the scenes and making-of documentaries and I just recently watched the movie Casino one of the one of the making of or behind the scenes documentaries on casino and and it’s totally timely to this conversation because Nicholas Pileggi who was the author producer screenwriter researcher and he he was the one who who mapped out all of the the historical chronological timeline of events that that are depicted in the film casino but in in the actual documentary he said it was he said you know I had all these if he had the history the history and there cannot chronology of events all laid out on paper but it was the magic of Scorsese who was able to make it into an entertaining film because he was able to mash it up and create all of these different constantly I mean this is this is just now I’m not trying to quote him anymore but this it was perfect timing that I saw that because that was exactly the crossroads that we were at really wrote where we’re at right now is because we still editorial past of you getting Jade written in to the story and then I know through that it unlocked other things that was like okay well they stop going to be in that in this needs to be and it’s like getting that all in but there was will be suctioned swear it was these long pieces of transcript these long pieces of fight notes from sessions and it was just like you know I would hit it going through Reading it was just like all four wheels in the butt smell like the story just comes to you know it’s like nobody’s nobody’s going to look down and they’re going to get distracted they’re going to check their like Twitter what I started to do is I was going through and I was like okay this opening part that we have this opening scene is really good but then it’s like it’s still was continuing on with that way kind of chronology for that whole scene and it’s like well this is our open like it really doesn’t fit well because it’s too much of the scene and it’s the beginning of the book and the reader doesn’t know why the hell they’re reading the book at all it’s like now yeah it sounds good it’s great but it’s like there’s no there’s no conflict there’s no nothing so we need to start generating that and then it was like okay so now I have to start looking at this as like four sections at a time you know because you sent me what is it about 50 sections that we’ve got and then I started to look at them four to five sections that are and it’s like what’s going on with this chunk of the story and how can we play around with it and rearrange it so that it’s more interesting more to tell him because we’ve got a few challenges going on here you know we’ve got what we talked about already about like the difficulty of the story in itself then creating the character which was there all the time in the story but realizing that it was actually her story that we needed to tell because that made it really interesting and then trying to cut and piece it together and then you know way back at the beginning you mentioned that it was kind of sci-fi kind of this kind of that and it’s like the reason it’s that kind of sci-fi is because the subject matter that we’re getting into we don’t really have the vocabulary or terminology to talk about accurately so that had to be created and borrow she had to be borrowed a little bit from it had to be borrowed a little bit from biology had to be borrowed from together and kind of breaking that story line up and kind of letting it just sort of fall into place and I don’t like that bouncing ball you know because what we started with what you experience with the reality of this story is in the two stories yours and hers that were telling within it is it was fucking chaotic as all hell the way the stories being told needs to be told that way I know on the street you experience in these orders but in the healing and the deconstruction and the analysis and the free packaging and the use of it it didn’t happen that way bread and for the 4th for it to be this is something that when I did my first feature film acting role very independent very low budget and but I have high hopes for it and it is also in the editing process now and that’s going to be who knows it could have it could be a non-event it could be a major event there certain the elements of it that I I’m I’m sworn to secrecy about it because it has a very novel plot architecture that it’s almost like a trade secret kind of NBA kind of thing right now so I can’t say much about it but I will say that I have I have been in a legitimate independent as as Bonafide as it gets an independent film and I have performed in that and in that in that process I was gleaning from the producer director of the film everything I possibly could about lighting about camera angles about setting up shots about everything that you know this cuz he’s a very accomplished very respected filmmaker and and of course I was taking all kinds of notes in the process and one of the things that I remember and I can say this you know what kind of big lie but when we were when when we were doing scenes where there was dialogue and I was supposed to not tell my story per se but basically create the story of the character for the for the introduction of the character to the people and I was I was instantly just buy my nature by my training I was basically giving in academic lecture mode trying to trying to give the the 101 the one or two there were two o one that and so in the way that I’ve always been trained to to deliver information and academically and it in a sequential sequential matter that everything goes on a self that you wouldn’t go to a college course and expect that okay everybody we’re going to just completely discombobulated the structure of the of the history of this field and I’m going to teach you all about what’s happening now and then throw in a little mysterious bits of the history of it so that you can be confused for like half the class and I just keep you confused the hope for half the class and then you’re going to get to the enjoyment and the pleasure and the glory of stitching it together in your own subconscious in your unconscious mind and your part of the time you’re going to be in your own Narrative of trying to sort things out but that’s the difference between between an academic narrative and entertainment narrative is that you were wanting in a neat so he would tell me when I was doing his like nose stopped you look you need to be more cryptic you need to give them leading sort of mysterious sort of my little bits and M and there and let them Stitch it all together from from I guess if you take that to the extreme you have keep the quintessential Pulp Fiction or Tarantino thing where there’s all these different fragments that are totally disconnected yeah yeah yeah not postmodernist deconstructed storyline which is definitely you know. Not only is an influence within the work they were working on but it needs to be there to be able to tell that good story and that’s kind of something that you know especially with my editorial work with connection Victory is when I go into edit I need to like major reconstructive surgery on this thing but the actual Aberdeen of the story in the word from the grammar the mechanics of How It’s put together is really light because I don’t want to change the author’s voice at all I want to find a way to cut it down so that it amplifies that voice and the best way to do that really has to do is send it like the author Reed’s through it after you’ve done in there like I don’t even know where you at changed anything unless they’re holding him up side-by-side now of course from what you originally handed me to what we’re going to end up with my wife dropped you know I eventually delivered to you when we’re done you’re definitely going to know that it’s my hope that you know as we work through it and get it up to you you know copy ready you’re still hearing your voice all through it and that is it kind of need this back to the fukkit which definitely is something I’ve had to watch and working on this piece because it is so in-depth and working five sections at a time you know and like when you start off with like you know entering Las Vegas Queen of the duck the gummies a goddess among Lenin corpse work event rape culture that’s my first five sections and so by the time you work through that it’s like you’re kind of feeling just a little tiny – a fuck it employs step away and you take a break and you go out and like you stick your hands in the soil especially when I reach the five sections that start with Lady Ayahuasca move through other sections and end with masturbating on acid and an ambulance that was definitely a moment I need to stop and take a break because in true that it’s like bees is distractions that writers will right themselves into to avoid from having to address realities with a story where we talked around the word we talk around it and so editorial it’s like all of that is it’s like on Menaul and this and that and that we use in hedging invoice to like trying to think and prepare we do that in writing especially when you’re writing like that so when we start to take that out and it starts there’s also I’m discovering within the story and put the potential for what you’re working on the kind of like kind of come out and it’s like when I was working on Section entitled fighting Ness Monsters it’s like and I’m working across five sections together and stitching fit trying to make people in all this and everything in it it’s time-consuming okay and there was a point when I’m going along and if you just put that idea in itself I’m not going to say anymore it gave me a really good idea for a story I’d like to develop itself so the things that come out from the lines I could have made a total Twilight Zone well I’m glad I’m actually I was going to ask you if you would be daring enough to out yourself for having had that the moment that that that you share with me about that cuz it is so telling and that in itself is that is is just takes and takes off on another tangent of another another story of like what and actually I had I did anchors me into want to say and I don’t know if I would have mentioned this but I definitely think it’s critical that I do is that I don’t wish I don’t think that was it when it when I had that that disclaimer in the beginning of this it was really sort of like what we would call in the modern parlance of of more conscious more evolved discourse that the whole notion of a trigger warning so it’s it’s almost like this the the haven’t you see sometimes on posts online no trigger warning all caps bold trigger for sale for me the the the scale of trigger warning that would have to be put on this like if there was a trigger warning security alert scale than this book would be off that scale because of how triggering it could be in so many ways and and and I can’t even account for the VA the notion that let’s say this is red a kind of feel like like I have the retention for having such a severe warning the beginning is that the way that I just feel like if you were not extreme Survivor on the edge of an existential crisis meltdown suicidal ideations this probably shouldn’t be on your shelf next to Catcher in the Rye and Of Mice and Men and wakesetter this this is an extreme piece of work that that I want to I want it to be because I am somewhat afraid about the what what the side effects could be from even being exposed to this if it’s not necessary know you would rather in the words of Terence McKenna just whistle past the graveyard in life if you can possibly avoid going to these territories and so there’s that tension and needs to be I don’t know what the effect will be in the fact that you had that experience is Testament testimony shift for myself in it is the first it’s like yeah yeah that’s why I need to be told and yeah as far as you know trigger warning this time everything you know there’s that little back blur that goes on the back of the book you know that gives you the brief rundown or it’s on the inside flaps of the Dust jacket if it’s hard bound with the cover and everything like that it’s like that’s where that’s really what the trigger warning is it’s like if you look at any book it gives you that basic breakdown of the story you’re going to be reading so you know that’s where we put the trigger warning without having a trigger warning the other aspect of it is kind of a little bit of the story itself is the by editing we are banishing the demons that were in coded into a true writing so that’s another perspective on it but this whole idea of like hearing that voice behind me saying you know a week and just didn’t you get this. All right now that’s really it’s coming from when I’m editing I’m editing and free Minds the first mind is the mind of the editor and I’m looking at compelling story proper grammar all of that artifice mechanics structure then I’m also looking and thinking and reading it from the mind of the reader you know the reader has no idea about the story and what’s to come or what’s gone into it or where it’s come from they’re just taking it at face value then I’m reading from the mind of the writer the author in their voice where they’re coming from so I think that’s really like you know what the the depth in the intensity of the story and then reading with all three of those mines through all of this it’s not really surprised you know I was having. Like you know at that point in the story The Mention Of going and you know doing some speed to get the story done it wasn’t no wonder that you know it’s like I’m I’ll be 50 this year I’m not getting on any skateboard but I’m cut that itch to get back on the board and steel. fastest around me and everything and it’s it’s due to be a versus nature of the editing and it’s also a testament to the quality of the writing storytelling well well I have to say that the character situation I think that if that wasn’t that the moment that I that I have the epiphany of what I had to do I mean it’s been my intention to be like okay if I wouldn’t wish I always say I don’t wish reading this book on my worst enemy but I have to I have to impose it upon Humanity because if I don’t impose this then everything that’s in there that is the evil dark side of the force is going to impose itself without resistance so it’s kind of like you know when it goes back to something I said when I was first starting to just come out about any of this stuff to anybody I I said I said dissemble a friend at one point is if you know what I don’t think I want to tell my story because I feel like I’m I’m the turd in the punch bowl and I am and they said no dude don’t worry about it you’re the punch in the turbo that’s perfect so on that note that the punching that your balls the hearing about you got your experience with this I said okay I’m going to break off break out some of my Bitcoin Holdings and sell it off and get you booked on a session with my one of my Tantra can the initiate Rick’s is Rhoda Jordan for a personal contract counseling session to sort of massage your shoulders a bit while you’re in the ring fighting with this material and you don’t know no no pressure to to to give her a call it like a you mean like her compassion bleeding through that was so embracing that I could just float away on I don’t have to say anything full disclosure we are not being a we’re not we’re not an infomercial but anything you know you like to say that is just factual from experience about that just so people know hey look I want I want I want Wilhelm to be very very supported this process because and I should say before you before you do share we like to share I will put this in context to my own my own journey of actually writing this and I say this a lot I say I make this and make this point to people when I give them advice when they’re having a Dark Night of the soul and they feel like they’re being attacked by everything inside of them everything outside of them is a look when you when you I said make this analogy to let’s say if you were in that you know a Nazi concentration camp right and you figured I would say you were going to not sit just bear with me for a moment here but if you were in a Nazi concentration camp and you were able to discover some weakness in the facility so that you could actually start to carve your way out or start to have an escape plan or start to somehow get Leverage get an upper hand the moment that you become the moment that you set off that that alarm or set off that awareness in your captors in the guards who are keeping him holding you captive as soon as they know that you have an upper hand that you have some form of intelligence or some form of power that could be that could be used to organize other people or two could be used to create a a Revolt or somehow Break Free that’s when at that moment of their discovery of your upper hand or your potential power that’s when they go after you and they’ve date they they gang up on you and they start to put their more sophisticated officers on you to watch you or to surveil you are too for you or to destroy you so there is this what I would call a joint with this term like that the shamans dilemma I guess if you will was like if you if you start with z sting these entities these forces demons Paris the trans-dimensional parasitic organisms whatever you want to call them after this the purpose of the Sci-Fi that we’re dealing with there is this sort of effect that is if you were to just remain silent and go through the motions and keep your head down and in and make no no obvious claims that you have the way the means to defeat them then they won’t they won’t really attack you that much they will just slowly mind you and slowly extract from you and slowly destroy you but it’s when you stand up and you speak out and you come out and you start to organize and you become a threat to their their order and that’s when all hell breaks loose and they start coming after you even even more so that that all of that is to say that this story as an act of resistance against evil it is going to as gets exposure on any level as I shared on any level it’s going there they are over there in their realm and their Dimension and they are like the Goblin King in Labyrinth are there creating their tactical strategies to mitigate this risk and that is a real a real tangible real if you dare to to believe that that there is an intelligent force of evil working against forces of good then then it’s then it’s reasonable not just to assume that but actually and I can say for my experience like when I was writing this the bulk of it when I was given a grant basically I should say kind of going jumping back in time going at a at a chronology here going back to the year 2014 I spent pretty much the whole year spending of a small but life-changing Grant so that I could focus on actually writing out and doing all of that that book material transcript thing in NM and then going into the events in the past and and writing like what what resulted in four to five hundred Pages at the end of the year was time that I spent and and I was her rained during that process there was resistance against my Tervis counter-intelligence counter resistance against my prices are doing that and luckily in my my seeking of the pranic healing modality as which weaves into the story in a deep way the pranic healing modality I went to a a meet-up presentation and I got this pamphlet this little brochure that talked about the that what they call this therapeutic Clint aura-cleansing saltwater bath formula and they talked about using 4 cups of if you can get the Hamlet of a Himalayan salt more natural full source of the cell material and 4 cups of salt per bath and go into a bath and basically be in this the saline solution and according to their that the science of that modality you are doing the work of many healing sessions of many human healers doing energy healing work on you and purification work you can sort of replicate that effect by just being in salt water and having em so I made me think about what’s white Surfers orso’s in these entities are dissolved and they are inhibited and they are sort of blocked in in that when you were sick when your aura is immersed in a sit in a saltwater solution you have this this freedom and peace of mind and this this sort of votes like a barricade and I’m in and that was precious to me when I discovered that my immediately started doing it and as the Press during resistance of be trying to write this the scum he’s kind of like all over the keyboard all over my hands like pulling me out of the process I actually literally wrote the majority of this book in a bathtub with it with a nightstand that I was when I was in Lotus position in the bathtub leaning over to a nightstand obviously you want to take extreme precautions not to put any Electronics near water so I was in there steaming up the screen typing and and listen to psychedelic trance to keep me in this Cadence of flow and I was barreling through it but with as much of my body as I could submerged in saltwater and that actually like what would you say shit is short-circuited their connection if there was no ability for them to break through into me so if I knowing that I lived through that and I was like okay here editor take this with no disclosure no cabin in Torino Italy I I do I have worried and invented concerned about your well-being and where I was staying at it was at my sister’s and I was working on a stump out for and I’m so I had my hands in the dirt like every day for that would work on work on editing the book and then I would go get my fingers in the dirt and I’ll get my fingers to the church and then I would go and I got to caution you you want to wash your hands and dry them before working in electronic devices after doing the butt that was a big part and I’m not it was a very simple very basic session but it was getting that connection with somebody else who wasn’t directly involved in the story but knew the story and was part of the healing journey of that story and it was so like in the story but you know in in other ways and so to have the and also to to make that connection so the moving for removing through the rest of the word moving through all of these things that you had to short-circuit them take him through knowing that if if there’s any any oddness that starts to pop up you know I’ve got that person who is not connected to the story that I could reach out to and that was I really thought it belonged my canker safety-net Lifeline to have that knowledge into no okay if things start spiral I know this is where to go and that that once. Compassion Cloud will be there without having to really go into you know the specific details of the book in the afternoon cool well yeah and then end goddess blessed Rhoda and it brings a tear to my eye thinking about where where we have arrived at because in this conversation is really that the heroes are these goddess and bodied women who just seem to be so far beyond susceptibility to some of the other things that have brought down men in the picture and not from a place of love really I mean the empowered feminine in the form of Rhoda in the form of mfp and Jade and the it’s just so that’s the ultimate Redemption is is the the path of seeking the divine feminine and that’s in even even the even this gummies themselves like that’s all they really want to have they want the Gremlins want to be Maguey again you know they intended they’re just going to rip through everything until they find the means to be to be restored in tomorrow and let you know I’ve said it a few times without these women there would be no story for this book it wouldn’t eat I mean without intervention like with Rhoda without works like with Jade without development. Relationship without the understanding and. Desire to gain the knowledge in the openness to accept it and to go into the extreme this of it sure nothing other than like you no experience and to heal without all of that I mean not really sure like how old is story would have liked ended up coming out or if it would have ever came out you know so it really without that piece of the puzzle being unlocked and being not just put into the story but becoming the story we really wouldn’t have anything to work with and there’s a lot in that I am not just for you know your story getting out your book getting time me and like it in the oven in time connection Victory publishing the but all of that kind of secondary to the main reason which is getting this information out to people to not only kill those who have been too abused also to give the opportunity to heal the abusers that are out there as well so that we can finally move on to the next level of social amen totally agreed on that and I I I could only imagine how yeah how how beautiful or Dent if it would be for those who are abusers and who I could just imagine that this work it seems totally appropriate that this work be part of curricula that are used in psychiatric prisons in places that rehab centers in diversion programs where I know that they know really the when I was well I was doing the research for this book I had I had to purchase the stack of books that that I was using to help help me help inform my ability to frame the stuff and and of course I read the Dharma punx and Dharma punx to me felt like the the Noah Levine is the author and and he his past and his trajectory of coming from being a street Punk getting into having relationship dramas and and police story dramas and getting into spirituality and then betrayals within spirituality and then hitting bottom and getting into recovery and then becoming a mentor and teaching meditation in prisons and working with youth and that that Arc of a story as I read that book a nice and I really thought okay well this is the the model the president and if I did have to pitch the story to anybody and say how will you know Siri say where is this work before why should we gamble on this story well if we can make something as compelling and as as accessible as Dharma punx then it can be this recovery manual and it can be this introduction in men what are things that I would say that was was I don’t want to sale a king or left to be desired but I will say that to you know I’d love to meet Noah someday I have a an invitation to do a podcast that haven’t heard back I don’t know if the fetish if that’ll be in the cards hopefully it will but something that I think would be a beautiful healing thing for both of us as punks who came from the street and got into drugs and told her story and are now in service that that the anguish that he experienced in his love-life I believe this is the piece that I have I can I can be complementary to his work in the world and in through this hopefully we bring that we we we we really we take that uncooked that sort of festering uncooked sexuality piece that’s missing from a lot of spiritual paths or sort of confused and distorted and week we cook it and we marinate it and we have a feast and that Feast is a fully embodied fulshaw craeg here’s how we bring it all together and we really heal everybody soul and we make it acceptable to to talk about our desires and acceptable to talk about what we got to do to heal each other and to think out-of-the-box and decolonize the bedroom and figure out how to talk to really intelligently use the sexual energy to to heal ourselves and each other and integrate that in the spiritual practice so that’s just another another little tension Theory but I would say that I dare say that the success of the Dharma punx movement could lend itself as a sort of president to a tantra Punk movement and I don’t want to be the leader of that movement I just want to be the messenger and so the real leader is to me or Jade and Rhoda and the other and of course sufiyana who you will you read about and we didn’t even go there but I’ll let that be part of their the Cliffhanger for this conversation and we’ll wrap up where we’re bit over time so well I’m thank you thank you thank you so much this really it was even a million times more revelatory and Injustice and Redemptive for me to have this call with you now in this process and it really is is invigorating and hopefully we will get through all of the fuckits as they continue to come up and we will take plenty of saltwater baths and not take any meds spend our math money on Rodeo sessions so anything would you like to talk to wrap this up and how could people connect with you and hire you to do take their entire back an avocado to make it into something ya Lili ya thanks for having having me on the show and putting up with me rambling about the weirdness of the editing process because it does get kind of weird but it’s that’s part of the fun of it and yeah I navigating all this little buckets and people are interested can get a hold of me via email Global Nomad way at gmail.com is pretty easiest one I’m also like if you look at the Masthead the front page of the good men project. Com you’ll find my email it’s a man email address there as well and are working on a book on if an author is interested in that keep in mind it is not a short process to be done right and you know from really delivery of manuscript to final products you’re looking realistically about 3-4 years and you know the smoothest case scenario which rarely have outside of God Mom I also do work with helping to cultivate and develop individuals creativity and that’s it was a lot more fun for me and everyone else involved it’s not as much but it’s also can I throw a curveball to your Consciousness to unlock your creativity a little bit deeper so I have to add one thing of that which is that if it’s not me it’s somebody is going to make you a voice acting star and a narration star because damn if anyone listen to this and we’ll get better out of your quality but I think you have an amazing voice and it’s always just a pleasure to hear you speak I just on the sound wave vibrational level and the wisdom and the care in the thoughtfulness I know it’s it’s coming out in this process and I’m excited to enjoy the other works that you’ve done and through connection Victory and Beyond and please by all means go to the good men project support the project do you want to just maybe say one more thing about how we really need to support independent media journalism the real the real mess up that is disappearing day-by-day you know we know of print media is especially journalism newspapers it’s rare to find any more websites same thing it’s a very difficult unless you are Facebook or Google there’s money isn’t there to support it and keep it out there it’s like everybody’s always complain you know for a medium sized Media Company especially trying to grow it’s almost impossible to keep afloat and that is a precarious situation in the current socio-political climate and if you have a media company it doesn’t matter if it’s the good men project ravishly or your Tango or anything’s that is supported independent journalism especially things that are working and advocating the end of these oppressive systems that are making all these problems for us support them with your words share on social media like comment subscribe join register membership if you have lots of surplus cash laying around that you just don’t know what to do with it you were going to just throw it away out of just sheer frustration send it to these media companies they were the writers with it yeah and I also know that the more blessed I become and my finances the more I will be able to take care of you and and sponsored more or you going to need a lifetime supply you already earned a gold card from me as afforded insist going to be at me because this honestly and I guess this will be that this will be the last thing right now for me to say to close this is that from the time that that you received this manuscript to this very moment if this becomes successful there will be multiple sequels and follow-ups already so hopefully if there is a benefactor benefactors out there listen to this and you would like to facilitate this process being celebrated then by all means let’s talk because we could even structure some form of you know Angel investment type of strategy if you believe that there is that there’s Merit here because there’s more forthcoming and hopefully we can just let the hits keep on coming if if if they’re if it’s meant to be so thank you again I can’t thank you enough and hopefully I’d say the next time we do this it’ll probably be as a part of a campaign to lunch this much this book so yeah yeah we’ll see what happens next to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com can cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provides ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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Exploring the Art of Erotic Literature with Malin James TPP110

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Malin James picIn this episode I have the exquisite pleasure of exploring the art of erotic literature writing with Malin James. She offers a wide range of insights into the inner workings of erotic writing and we agree that it’s vital to sustain and evolve this ancient craft into the digital age.

About Malin:
Malin James is an essayist, blogger, and short story writer. Her work has appeared in Electric Literature, Bust Magazine, MUTHA, Queen Mob’s Tea House and Medium, as well as in anthologies for Cleis, Sweetmeats Press and others. Her short story collection, Roadhouse Blues will be available this summer from Go Deeper Press. Learn more at http://www.malinjames.com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 110 I’m here with Mom and James a writer blogger and essayist of all things sexuality and Beyond and another blessed adventure to just discover more folks out of the box of Tantra who were in the sex blogging in writing fields and she was kind enough to accept my invite to the show and so it’s going to be a a process of exploration and learning about what all you offer your path to becoming an influencer in the sexuality writing field so yeah please share this a bit about your path leading up to the wonderful person you become thank you so much for having me on its really really cool I’ve been listening to some of the episodes and I really think of the work you’re doing is fantastic so it’s a complete honor to be here I think that I think that I’ve always been sort of Q2 sexuality in one way or another and I’ve been writing for a very very long time almost 20 years but it was until about five years ago that I really started focusing on sex is a subject and I started writing erotica and Dean sex blogging writing that sexuality and as I did that more and more I realized that sex is really an amazing lens to sort of look at our Humanity through our spirituality through understand ourselves each other that is really it is all encompassing and, things are tough connective facet of humanity and Joe the start of the more of my perspective Broad and on that the more I found it right about the more I reached out to people and people reached out to me and I just became a very nourishing very creative exciting space to be an end here I come from a background that is on the more traditional side and I have a history with sexual trauma and healing from all of that and so what kind of a winding road but through all of that has always been this sense of sexuality as being something that connects all of us and is very connected to my think that’s that’s it in a nutshell and I am grateful for it well well thank you for sharing and do you want to talk about some of your projects what what you’re focused on in your Expressions over this. So I think I took out at about last year I was primarily writing just very short pieces very short erotic fiction getting them published anthologies and doing all of that and it was good it was it was fun and then I didn’t wear more that I started blogging about my personal experiences just in relationships I’m in an open marriage and polyamorous most of my adult life so I started writing about that and my experiences with that just as as things opened up for me sort of healing from trauma I wrote about that some more and and things just started getting very I found myself very much sort of in the center of of the the non-fiction I was writing and so are most of my my non-fiction is very sordid personal experience reflective sort of stuff and I had always shied away from that because you know I made in the end you know who wants to be navel-gazing and instruct you know but you find a balance stop and get some perspective and the really cool thing is it that you know no one ever experiences you know when we all resonate with each other and you resonate in a can be very surprising can be really wonderful eye-opening so my non-fiction is definitely edges over towards the personal experience in the personal essay then as far as as far as fixing goes I’m working on a collection of erotic short stories right now that’s coming out with go deeper press this summer cold Roadhouse Blues and basically what I’m really looking at what I’m really interested in is it’s a bunch of connected short stories that also focus on this sort of one town in the middle of nowhere in the United States and the lives of people people have and how they don’t maybe look like what we think of as you know I haven’t particularly Rich sexual lives but they really do and they don’t matter stereotypes and they don’t maybe look the way we think they should look or you know whatever they want to just break down break down the idea of you know a sexual person looking a certain way or being a certain way or traditional relationships vs untraditional relationships insert break all that down to where it’s like now we’re just people in these people have relationships and this sometimes relationships look like one way and sometimes they look another way and so that’s really been my passion project for the past year now finishing it up now and really looking forward to getting that out in the world what sounds fun are you are you going out and sort of doing the what are they call it like what a method actor would do to get immersed in the environment so you can have a prospective for details of things are actually that’s a really awesome question I was an actor I trained as an actor and I worked as an actor in New York and San Francisco for about 10-15 years earlier in my life so a lot of my writing I use the same muscles in my writing as I do and when I was acting and what it is is it not so much method acting as like intense empathy I really really empathize with my character’s a bite if I can’t empathize and come to a character with compassionate then I shouldn’t be writing them even if they’re absolute jerk even if they’re you know an awful human being for me to write from a place that is both productive and I don’t know what the word is I don’t to say lightning because that’s that’s a bit that’s that’s a tall order but if I’m going to write from an honest place a place that isn’t may be rooted in judgment I need to have that empathy so I filled up a lot of those muscles when I was being an actor and doing acting training and I use that same sort of seat of empathy and compassion when I when I write my writing is super character-driven so you know whether it’s a guy who’s cheating on his boyfriend or you know woman who just desperately wants to have a baby and so she kind of does anything to get there just whatever the situation is even if I’ve never lived that live that experience try to come at it from a pretty like a pretty understanding emotional place and then if I don’t understand certain to take it looks like I’m never going to know what it is to be a gay man and so if I need to get a good perspective an honest perspective on something then you know I’ll talk to a friend or I’ll talk to to someone who has direct experience in an area to make sure I’m doing it right I mean the last thing you want to do is just perpetuate stereotypes without knowing it that sucks so you know I do want to be carefully do a lot of research but but yeah in the end it really comes down to like no matter who we fall in love with no matter who we have sex with no matter who we want or need or what we do we’re all people and we all hurt and we all love joy and we all experience pain and that sort of like the first step for me in getting into into a character’s head and then after that kind of just see where they take it sounds a little bit like we will and everything but it’s a very organic sort of intuitive process for me you know scanning my subconscious of four any references to something that like what you’re talking about and actually what came to mind was that movie Thelma and Louise did you receive that I really takes you on an anthropological journey into the Bible Belt and masculinity and the recently and it’s been years since I really I really loved it as a child that I think that was probably an important seed of Consciousness it was planted then and and watching it now recently after almost thirty years of being a free reasonably well trained feminist at least by my partners who wouldn’t give me the option if it’s amazing when you think about the character development in understanding and emphasizing and seeing the wounding of patriarchy that’s a on both on all ends of the gender Spectrum really in you just see the how tragic it is to be so so anybody really that the way that they that they covered the truck there is a truck driver he was a perv there was the husband who is the certified abusive or neglectful Tyrant and then there was the cereal kind of date rapist creepy guy and then there was the the good cop bad cop thing going on the empathetic cop with versus and so it’s like a sacred masculine was really held by of all people Harvey Keitel and he was the only one and then there was even the boyfriend who was tearing up the hotel room you know so she couldn’t even deal with him but he would least was wounded and he was a little bit vulnerable yeah it was a circus of patriarchal archetypes and archetypes that have been perpetuated for so long and end and have you know tab damaged women but also damaged men I really feel like you know all of it boxes just end up end up doing more damage then then good at this point you know with men feeling like they have to be a certain way to be strong or to be to be mad and identify you know as a particular gender and and women you know what’s been you know what’s been done to women by the patriarchy over so many so many centuries are you still you’re still working on the book now or you’re working on I’m doing all that the edits at this point so I’m I still got my hands pretty pretty deep in there so I can I think it would be probably a good move to go ahead and have a watch and just sort of compare you know what’s going on on the screen with some of the things that I’m working on to I think that’s awesome all right around ya good for divine timing and then it also makes me feel the other than this is like the pendulum swing of empowerment is that film based on if I can remember her name it’s probably going to escape me right now but at the only female serial killer wilmslow niak something like that I just heard a reference recently but I hadn’t had you seen that film really really powerful movie and Powerful Super 8 yeah it’s just that those that those are good things are going to my so what if you’re in less it’s a secret in your keeping it I mean I guess you could give us the back cover version to know if you have it to understand what it was some of the angles are coming at 2 with this project then I’m definitely curious truckstop town in the middle of nowhere and I really wanted to leave it very general because there places like this all over the country and very particular sort of localized stuff but but I wanted I wanted this town called sticks to sort of sit in sit in that space that General survival belts Enid rural Highway Town kind of feel and so what it is I’m kind of span of a bunch of decades like I’ve got a story set in the 40s and I’ve got a story a story set in the fifties and sixties and I’ve got stories that now and what if what I’m looking at is stuff like like there are there are some stories about women who work in a strip club but it’s not about them as strippers it’s about them as as women I’m in the top and see what they do and you know one of them is about a woman who is convinced her husband is cheating she she knows he’s cheating and the question is if he actually is cheetah or if this is just a lot of her own you know her own filters sort of boxing him into a role that he’s not actually playing or a woman who had a very close relationship to her father and he died and should have working through that with a man she needs no guy who who owns the local Diner and he’s gay but he’s completely in the closet because you know growing up in the 80s and you know it should taking Bible about town you you just don’t talk to being gay so you know so he’s performing this idea of what it is to be a straight man when you know there’s this other self that he doesn’t get to my cakes for Access with you know or a woman who escaped a really abusive relationship and how that haunts now and how that experience literally changed who she was least through all of that are sexual encounters sexual experiences sexual relationships in the thing with erotic of the tricky thing is is like an erotic I basically as a genre it needs to have sex and that’s that’s for the genre but what I wanted to do was you know make the sex really really like at just an inherent necessary part of the story and make the sexiest characters have and that I depict in the stories make it means something make it meaningful you know what start them in one place and have them end up in another place through a sexual encounter through the expression of their sexuality so all of these characters are very full people outside of the sex they have but for whatever reason in the stories they are in some way transformed or transported by a sexual experience and so that you know that’s like it needs a moment and are the pivotal Moment In the book where things change and I guess the best way I could put it is that in these stories for these people the pivotal moment is sexual you know the woman who just had a kid who feels completely out of touch with her body but she manages to get herself off and feel desire again for herself you know and and how that can change her and just a husband and wife who lost touch and I will find each other again but only after the wife has an affair and just that that kind of thing to sex is there like that by opening experience I think is really my hope for it that’s beautiful yeah I was at that makes me think you know when you’re sexually deprived or I guess Starving in a way in and it really distorts your character to the point where when you are able to then eventually have relatively fulfilling and desirable sex then it just kind of melts away all of that paint instantaneously then we built up over that time of deprivation and say yeah I said I don’t care how no matter how long it takes for my dream list of dream loving experience has to happen I know that in the moment it does happen I’ll know it was worth it to have to have to wait that long that one experience smacks you right upside the head and Andy know you it’s something shifts and it’s you know it’s stuff like that that’s just an instant beautiful fakeness that’s like as a profound it’s a profound Lee amazing yet mundane thing in like in mainstream media I think n insertive especially women’s bag of beans like Cosmo and and stuff you know performing sex you know how to how to be sexy how to how to be a sexy person how to have no mind blowing pornographics acts like you’re camping up the pressure on something that you know it doesn’t it doesn’t need to be that it can be any wholesome that can be filthy it can be wholesome and filthy at the same time you know Steve whatever we be whatever you need it to be in that moment with your partner with yourself and I just I just want to put put a little bit of that out there you know everyday people having really profound everyday experiences yeah that’s beautiful man in the in the world world of Tantra it’s kind of in a different way can become guilty of that have just hyping up this ever-elusive experience of transcendence that’s so so easily easy to access but then sometimes you’re fixated on trying to achieve something greater than what’s in the moment and some of the most required no technique and no mantras and know you know spiritual latticework to climb and it was just the person was so into it and so present that they just they didn’t need any of that it’s at to get there and it made in it and I could just melt into it so but it is important for a man I say two to be able to fully relax into sex you have to you have to train to be able to relax and there’s a lot of people whether it’s sexologist sexual therapist that you’re doing helping men overcome both erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation and if you can figure out how to sustain yourself in that sweet spot then so nourishing to bathe in those chemicals that the neurochemistry of how do you describe these good feelings in words in the paper the medium of words how do you express these if these feelings last me as I was working on this like how do you how do you make how do you make sex like more than just sort of like the bear biological unit description in like 10 and all that because in the end you know like we all know how sex works you know what you mean we basically you no no what you do when you have sex you know regardless what kind of sex you’re having and we know it like the mechanics are so you don’t have to to Really describe it like and super detail as opposed to like getting into that sort of that biology of it is there that I think about it I talk more about how things feel you know so it’s not just like they kissed it’s what’s going through her head when he kisses her what’s what he feeling when he kisses her like you know where they smelling what is it remind them of you know where did it take them and their minds are you know where they completely taken out of their heads and just living in the moment and experiencing the sensation Moment by moment and Eileen a lot more on that sort of that since a moment by moment physical experience as opposed to like a description for for writing a story and I also find that very naturally when I when I start writing from that sort of place of how something feels as opposed to what’s happening to them it naturally takes me right into the characters experience and and tops that empathy really just organically you know so I mentioned the story about the the woman who to have the baby and you know she just lost touch with her body she’s lost her ownership everybody in our entire sense of herself and so you know she ends up masturbating and it is a pretty straightforward story but like the whole build-up is how disconnected she feels to her body and how much it hurts and how much she just she just feels out of place in her skin and so the more she touches herself in a loving way the more she just seemed like your neck a little bit and let that tension app no justice he’s very unsexual actions that she’s taking gently unpen the tension and the the the start of the self-torture she’s putting herself through emotionally you know to unlock unlock that little portion of yourself that’s that’s really blocked off so you know going into her her head and like what did it feel like you know what does she remember sex feeling what she remembered her body feeling like how is it different now oh maybe it’s not so maybe it’s not so scary that it’s a little bit different maybe it’s okay that it’s changed a little bit maybe it’s still beautiful maybe her skin still feels good on your fingertips that kind of thing and let her sort of explore explore her physical self from that a very sordid a moment a very moment to moment almost like I had to take this a Buddhist but it is in a way it’s a very moment to moment present in reality right now experience in and let her be physically with herself and follow that experiences she has she has it and end with a story like that basically it was almost like it was getting married at Uni and I just like I just wrote it down so it says it’s super sensory and and way more like emotionally driven you know you want to make it sexy cuz you know still ride again people you don’t want to feel good you know when they when they read it but definitely looking for that deeper kind of that deeper feeling good but deeper feeling of a sexual experience I love it just came to mind that everyone should know how to fuck their own brains out that what you know what is it that gets you what gets what gets you under your own skin and then you know run with that cuz that’s you know that’s brilliant that’s that’s that’s a fantastic gift you can give yourself right on would you be at would would you feel put on the spot if I asked you to read any sampling of any of your Works whether it’s from your what you’re currently working on or anyting for the past and just you know feel free if you don’t if you don’t feel shy I can pull something at let me see let me pull up this isn’t from The Collection this is this is a piece that I wrote last year and it’s basically about a woman who is recovering from a pretty horrible breakup pretty horrible just a relationship in general me see if I can find the file here where are you all right there with me sorry about that nothing all right let me go up to my website I think I’ve got it on it see I’ll read it a snippet of it it’s called the second letter and I wrote it right at the start of my own sort of healing process from some relation to cut by a pretty bad relationship and I and then you don’t and coverings and some stuff in my own past my own my own experiences. Especially you know when I was very very on that were just super painful and I buried and said this was the first story that I wrote that really I feel like I started tapping into something much more real instead of that sort of but I think I was like that like stop corn and there’s nothing wrong with it but she would like that. Erotica important that she is super like hey look how many positions we can get in and out of time and it’s in a it’s fun it’s latest it’s Enos groovy it’s just you know it’s very it should have more about what they’re doing instead of what they’re experiencing and records of exactly exactly this is the first time it’s pretty special place in my heart so read I read a little bit you can fit in the phone booth dude get 10 people in a phone booth love it I believe it just makes me sit back Bow Wow that’s that’s infusing like if that was reality that would be pretty incredible you know it’s either really wow I can’t bear was supposed to be a space born on Dixie they had to design a sex harness so that we would be able to populate the species after that we leave if we leave the Earth if we leave the Earth is smoldering Cinder and we have to repopulate Mars and we have to have a harness to strap in otherwise we would just be sending each other across the spaceship every thrust you know so okay if we had to go earlier than we have to go live in space how do we do that you know how do we do all these things how do we have sex I love that alright so let me see okay so here’s the here’s here’s a snippet from the second letter I have sent you the letter that I want you to see it’s practical and why’s full of smooth measured lines and things are best for both I’m not writing the letter that I wanted to write it is not smooth is not measured I’m writing on my skin than the length of my leg and up again higher and higher to my warm wet comes in the hollow places that you can I will start my hip and scroll to my love on that curved hardbone I will write up the silence my tongue couldn’t feel of the ugliness and envy I swallow just keep your taste in my mouth I understand your responsibilities your conditions your life I embraced my confinement in a small mushroom I was your Escape you said if you kiss my thought it was cream and white when you did not smeared with ink but clean and sweet atacolypse band improbable trust your words poured into my skin and diffused feeling my cells with your precise exact same love Alchemy magic I became an extension of you you cast a spell with every they can bite every time your fingers drifted between my thighs in bars and restaurants and cafes in streets every time you found me wet every time you suck my breast am I thin cotton blouse I lost an inch of myself more ink on my skin you love me love me your word Steve denslow in profound until I live to your teeth in the rest of your cock the human arching back a curving neck neck a greedy gaping cunt I was a response to your words the words that you scroll down my skin with your Rich invisible ink a room at Haven the bottle in the gym a pretty little box wow yeah I Rosie thank you thank you very much I appreciate that a great deal where do you get a lot of your guests if inspiration do you have places you go to disconnect and or does it just come at random times and you take notes I’m just curious the creative workflow you know what people want to get into this what what are some best practices in tips and tricks of the trade don’t don’t wait to be inspired because the way the way I feel like creativity Works its it always there you just don’t know when it’s going to pounce on you so in order to kind of keep yourself open keep your brain open keep your spirit open in a right right a little everyday even if it’s like 5 minutes in a notebook you know if you can you can eat out more time that’s awesome if you can work out a page that’s great but like 5 minutes a day sit down quietly with yourself just jot down whatever comes to mind like no pressure no expectation just something from a dream something I thought you had the sound of a person’s voice like what it feels like you know when you get that shiver of recognition and it feels like you got memories opening up your spine just all those little like those little experiences that pop into your brain just at random shot the shot that down you give yourself 5 10 minutes to just indulge in that that creative space and sometimes like stubble slow at you and you can keep it down fast enough and sometimes it’s going to be pretty quiet and we started like meditating and you’re staring at the wall in your life what’s going on and you don’t just stay with it as best you can and just not even if you’re just writing oh my God this is awful I can’t wait at that I had no thoughts so that’s the first thing is just like opening up that Matt muscle that awareness of story of yourself of experience and then the more you do that the more the more things should have started to spark and you know sit down we know what an idea like I seen a visual a visual like an image that you can’t get out of your head you know maybe write a little a little story for that like why are those two people doing that thing in that picture you know ask a lot of like a lot of why questions you know why did I dream turn you on why did that dreams scare the hell out of you you know why did that thought surprise you I find that you know opening yourself up like a little bit every day and then always questioning yourself coming on it from a place of curiosity asking why why why and writing the answers you’re going to end up with piles of material or piles of stories that never would have occurred to you if you sat down and we’re trying to bang them out in a conscious way and so that’s I think that’s that’s what I’d say for anyway that’s still how I work that I’ve been working for 20 years and it helps keep the pressure off and it keeps that that writer’s block at Bay because okay so I have a crap day and I’m I write absolute shiter apps I write absolutely nothing that’s okay I’ll have tomorrow so you know those steaks and a and I think once you you free yourself of that pressure you can go to take yourself to places that are going to surprise you and those surprises you know saying saying yes to like the things that surprise you and maybe catch you off-guard a little bit that’s where the really great stories are can you count demystify what writer’s block is as feel that the yeah me neither I probably haven’t been I mean I’ve I’ve written for magazines I’ve written columns for newspapers and I’m going back to college and I’ve been lyrics and poetry I said I consider myself a skilled and talented May probably more talented than skill that should be a writer but I haven’t made it my profession so I haven’t been dependent on it for my livelihood in a way that if I got stuck that it would matter so I probably never felt that anxiety around it so I’m curious what is that what is that is a phenomenon and if people have encountered it what are some of the tips that you’d have fur breaking through I’ve got to admit something right here I I have made it so that I don’t like that the stories of fiction I write in the essay is that really matter I don’t make my living off those I write copy I you know I freelance really boring stuff I do other things I teach sometimes I do other things so that I don’t have to make a living off of my fiction and I think like you were saying I think that pulling that that that performance pressure that that sort of financial imperative off of my fiction actually makes me much more productive than I would be otherwise and helps me avoid the writer’s block that might come when that pressure hits but you know back is different I feel like it’s different for a different different authors and different writers and it it manifests in different ways basically I I think that the most General it just like the most General way I tend to think about it as a sort of like a paralysis like you’re sitting at your computer your desk your notebook or whatever it is and you cannot you cannot put pen-to-paper you cannot make a words show up on the screen you’re just you’re paralyzed and it can happen because your blank and for some reason ideas and Rose are coming it can happen because there’s so much going on in your head and you have so many ideas that you get overwhelmed it can happen because you’re exhausted or depressed or anxious or worried or distracted basically what it comes down to is that you are like standing in the middle of the road and you cannot put one foot in front of the other and so the best thing you can do for yourself is to say it’s just Cop 2 that’s where you are you like okay I am in a really tough place I cannot put one foot in front of the other and be okay with that and switch gears so if you’re writing a fiction piece and it’s just not working you cannot work on it switch gears write an email and write write write an observation write an essay write write a you know what’s in thoughts on a book you read rights and thoughts on a movie you read right you know right it right to a friend right some tweets write a Facebook post just switch gears to something that is absolutely not the thing that you are stuck and and let that go let that roll and sort of let your mind just sit quietly on its own with whatever is blocking you with whatever’s got you paralyzed and then at some point gently bring yourself back and say okay you know what let’s try to put one foot in front of the other but keep the pressure low figure I’m going to come in and write a sentence and that’s great if you write this is awesome and if you can’t it’s okay you know that you tried your best gym I set it aside and come back to it tomorrow just you know when the last thing you should do like if a person is stuck and they’re terrified and they’re paralyzed in the middle of the road the last thing you want to do is flex shot at them and buried them and beat them you wouldn’t do that to another person so don’t don’t do that to you and just try to be try to be gentle take the pressure off and then you know eventually just keep keep on going don’t give up but but do it in a compassionate way I love you you know what what did it came up earlier when when you were reading was did you ever see that movie Pump Up the Volume. Yeah absolutely not so subtle influence I don’t think I’m actually thought of it I suspect if there’s an ambulance there it’s pretty subconscious but hey you know that sometimes you’re the best influences are like it’s so dorky but I really feel like like sexually formed me a great deal was a member of Bram Stoker’s Dracula back in the early 90s with my friends and it blew my head off just so many difference depictions of sexuality in and female sexuality particularly in that won between Mena and and Lucy in that the brides and stuff and I just remember like actively consciously identifying with each one of them in very different ways and it was the first time I had archetypes to apply to myself and so that’s that’s always been like if I were if I were to say that one spell more sort of 1 narrative performance really ended up I die really really like imprinted hard on that movie as flawed as it is and it’s you know it’s not but man that really did that not one nailed me hard and then and then different definitely Pump Up the Volume was in there and like Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman and just yeah definitely very very end times you doing that one was so creepy you know going back and watching that you know her performances as a Selina Kyle and Callum is just heartbreaking you know that the degree to which she you know she was divided you know and how she couldn’t she couldn’t have it both felt equally at the same time and then she’s got this creepy little dude Raggedy Ann it’s really as it’s fascinating it’s it’s it’s fun going back and watching these movies like I’m going to go back and watch some of the movies now that you mention it cuz that one is to totally yeah she’s real glimpse into that where you located at approximately it’s a culture shock to drive across the country for sure I had before then I live just in the Bay Area and New York and La just cuz that’s where I went to school and where I ended up working and stuff and little live live in Texas for 9 months is completely outside of my experience that it was one of the most like I think I was one of the most profound growth experiences of my life was just realizing that my little bubble was very much a bubble and that’s no beyond that were people that had completely different sets of values religious beliefs spiritual beliefs sexual beliefs and ways of living and that you know there was a vast vast difference between us ideologically speaking and yet there was a shared Humanity there and that was like some serious I’m serious at I opening that I’d I really need it at that point of my life wow this is making me want to go and do some deep cover tantric makeovers on small towns without even using the word yeah I feel like very capable of being a social chameleon and building rapport I’ve been touring the country and bands for years so you know you have to get an answer is in punk rock band you show up at the diner at the gas stations in but they’re used to it because there’s so many bands touring and you know I said but it’s it’s always a Charming endearing and sometimes facially deformed you know I mean seriously to the inbreeding get it it’s hard to hide in some of those places in a it’s pretty shocking but but yeah the struggles of women and you know the all of the expressions of even square dancing and things like that I feel like there’s they’re accessing Shakti and goddess worshiping expressing sexuality in ways that it it’ll it’ll find a way to be expressed even if it’s actively repressed through the church or whatever. Just curious now to take take that lends outlet for it and what outlet for that Sexual Energy or a sexual self-awareness is shut off by buying institution and it doesn’t make it go away it’s you know so where did where did it go what happens to as a manifest and other places Gina does it get does it find healthy expression somewhere else like you know in in church choirs are in orange square dancing or in you don’t really great cooking or does it get twisted and assertive harmful and perverted you know by being suppressed you known and how does that what happens to it because it’s it’s not like it’s just going to disappear it still has got to be a gay country music band out there somewhere it’s it’s cliche to like every form of Music except country but I actually I had I know nothing about the artist that don’t listen to it on the radio but I every time I hear it I do feel like well that’s the voice of the Goddess speaking through men being vulnerable in the only way that they can be and get away with it for sneaking it out through there through the yeah it’s it’s it’s a feminine Arts a very hurtful way of expression that they couldn’t get away with in any other sector like flat-out like open the expressed pain in so many country songs you know floss and pain and disappointment in and you don’t like in an Unapologetic it’s not cynical it’s it’s just you know it’s just they’re putting it out there cuz it’s you know the reality and you don’t get that and a lot of in a lot of areas I think of that sort of that that’s license that’s like the culture that sort of maybe more religiously influenced culture you don’t get it as much but that’s super true should we got a few minutes last time and I just enjoy this very eyeshadow get to relax and be is is I feel like we just drink tea or at a beer or something it was was not like my typical extreme activism turn the whole world upside down analyze everything with a sense of urgency is definitely usually like when I do interviews it’s not as it’s just not as like Melo I know what do you want to get to do whatever you like to shout out and hype and promote your website and best ways for people to to connect and then if you have any any words you want to share things people should look out for it and it’s all you can find me on social media and I’m so you can get me there at ball and MJ names and on my website you can certify me find all the other places where I am so my website the Great One Stop Shop there and that’s www.njnews.com m a l i n j a m e s. Com and the collection Roadhouse Blues is going to be coming out this summer with go deeper press and they’re awesome I just want to throw that out there by the way they are super amazingly sex-positive amazing activism just there an amazing publisher so I would definitely definitely say even if I wasn’t I didn’t have a book for coming with him I’d say check them out to their boss in there it goes deeper press.com and Zoe at the collection is Roadhouse Blues it’ll be coming out I’ll be on a book and paperback and probably available on Amazon and all those normal places and you have basically I guess I guess but the last thing I would say is just the world right now is is rough people are really struggling in the world is always rough but it feels like in the past few months things have gotten so that it’s gotten heightened up so you know just anything anything you can do to sort of find out find a place of empathy with other people’s experiences try to even if you don’t agree to try to understand where they’re coming from and and communicate Your Truth as as effectively and compassionately as possible I feel like that’s super important right now is there more people understand each other at the less I was going to get demonized and we could do with a lot less demonizing each other so thank you for the words and I guess there’s one thing I’d like to to ask for you to share about what you’ll be you know for the people who are just be more line on digital forms of texting all of that you know I if you could give it a sort of a Aroma to romanticize print media and book reading a little bit if you have any like a public you know a public service announcement around that and also I just the last thing I want to say is it a you have a great voice for spoken word I hope that you do read some audio books of your material if you haven’t already so that they can be used more easily to digestible for people who don’t have two hands to hold a book anymore cuz they’re on the computer all the time I was never thank you so much that’s really awesome compliment I’m hoping to do an audio book and read it myself because it’s it’s it’s fun I love it and I love audiobooks I love honestly I love books in pretty much every form you can get your hands on books like audio paper hardcover ebook whatever it is whatever your whatever your groove is you know go for it and enjoy enjoy the written word you know they’re amazing amazing stories just to be to be found on websites on podcast podcast I really enjoyed your pot has it been in but enjoying it so much I am a podcast just jumped and electronic media is a great place to do that so find you know figure out what you’re into and fell down the rabbit hole whichever rabbit hole that happens to be yeah dilate your attention span for an experience that isn’t just the Sound by sounds like so that’s cool I’m glad you’re saying that because then it’s not like because because Book Sales are going down in book stores are closing than writers are going extinct know they’re adapting and you’re adapting so thank you thank you for keeping the long version thank you I feel like hanging in there with the long version that’s it that’s a different kind of reward you know they did the sound bytes are good but if you can he can hang out there a little bit longer with whatever it is you’re reading then they’re worse than that to awesome alright then melon will thank you again for your time and we will definitely be in touch and I look forward to your work coming out like you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episode if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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The Good Men Project with Exec Editor Wilhelm Cortez TPP81

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Wilhelm Cortez PicIn this episode I’m joined by Wilhelm Cortez, a dear Portland Gutter Punx brother from back in the day who has since become an Executive Editor at The Good Men Project. Wilhelm was a key factor in the origin story of Tantra Punk as he ran a profile piece on my  “coming out” as a wounded sexual healer. It was a pleasure to learn more about his life journey and how he’s playing a vital role in evolving the discourse around modern masculinity. We share a deep comradery in finding purposeful right livelihood after years on the front lines of protest movements.

Wilhem’s GMP author profile:
https://goodmenproject.com/author/wilhelm-cortez/

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https://www.facebook.com/thegoodmenproject/

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https://twitter.com/GoodMenProject

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https://www.facebook.com/wilhelm.cortez

Here are the Facebook groups he mentions in the episode:
Stop Racism SIG Facebook Group
Post-Election Rebuilding Facebook Group
Environmental SIG Facebook Group
Non-Heteronormative Parenting Facebook Group

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 81 on Skype with Wilhelm Cortez who go back with pretty far now almost what 20 years at least into the Portland gutter Punk tribe and he’s been a beautiful inspiration to me over the years we’ve we had some beautiful experiences also in the forest defense community in the Northwest and we’ve yeah I’ve been kind of Kindred Spirits on on a journey and I I feel at one of the few survivors of those depths of self-destructive punk you know communities to to Really shine and make it out and threw and sustain the spirit with that said do you want to tell us a bit about your life story how you got to become the executive editor of the good men project spend 20 + lake is 93-94 I’m guessing if they have the haziness there but you know it’s been an interesting Journey getting to where I’m at now but it could be a very very long story as you know just from you know that times The Weave cross again and again over the years through just random means but it was still not Court of like you know we came up in this scene that was about figure it out for yourself figure out what’s right and promote that for your lifestyle so I think it was just natural being you know on the west coast and traveling in those circuits that we were just going to run into each other and it was always enlightening but not surprising when it would happen and that’s kind of how I ended up with the good men project is when I was living in Malaysia in Kuala Lumpur my partner at the time had met some people that were doing physical rehab with her and one of them was a camera in Conway is a writer and journalist and at that time he had just started as one of the first group of the executive editor is to work with the good men project and I met him and found out you know what he was doing in his work amazing things on exposing human trafficking child labor just really heavy topics all primarily under the idea of the disposability of men I’ll yell traditionally meant the soldiers the workers and the Expendable in that and we see in the western Society in the life expectancy some men is compared to women in on and on again there’s lots of levels to it but I met him and he introduced me to the project and I just kind of you know started joining their social media yeah like their Facebook page read their articles then I saw a Cameron posted a call for submissions that was just for a haiku about men masculinity haikus and I’ve been writing poetry since I was like I don’t remember how old and I know I’ve got a ton of haikus has got to be one in there and sure enough there was one from when I was living in Shanghai and there was a man who was he lived in the neighborhood I was at and he was kind of the the gatekeeper of the alley and he would stand out in the way he shaved was with one of those law large metal paper clips or like you know up whole dream of office paper and he would just click it onto the hair and pluck it out so I wrote a haiku about that submitted it to the good men project accepted looking for the writers group and I was like what’s that so I went and looked in at that time it was a private group a closed group but we’ve now open to public group but the stipulation for joining at that time was that you had to have at least one post published on the good men project and I was like well I too technically is a post because it did go on to the project website even though it was only in Oak Lane and almost immediately I was accepted once I call this is great so I started looking at that and seeing the editors posting there or articles and this is where most of these little connections between people come in there was an editor at the time Neil Hill who is environmental ecological educator and activist is I guess the best way I can try to lump it all together and all of his he was an editor at the time and he had made he was looking for somebody who had a Native American man as a role model because it was coming up on Thanksgiving and he wanted to expose you know a lot of the indigenous rights problems that surround the whole holiday and I messaged him and I told him you know I’m not a tribal member I did not grow up in the culture but they’re at a very young age when the Leonard Peltier case was first coming about I was just becoming aware of outside world and had seen the stories on the news and ask my parents about it and then his tastes just kind of that was when I was about seven years old and his case just threw my life just kept popping up and by the time I was a teenager and was involved in you know Street activism and things of that nature. You know the Peltier case is a big big one is still sitting there and so that was the first article that was and follow up with all the boogies tribe in Borneo view the five genders and those got the attention of the publisher then I was being asked to come in as an editor for the social justice section working in collaboration with Neil Hill in the environmental section because as we know there is no environmental justice without social justice there’s no social justice without environmental justice were connected you know we don’t we don’t save the environment or Nature by taking people out of it were part of it but we have to exist in it with balance so we started collaborating around that idea about building those sections in the content for it and now I’m actually mean who’s added her now for a day we need post that he does he’s always everyday he’s out in nature and interacting and he recorded it writes about it and we publish it’s not everyday and so that got me in as an editor and then it was just I just became my passion pretty much and I work my way up as people would come into the project and leave the project I would keep climbing the ladder up and about a year-and-a-half ago I started the executive director level and now I’m the last one standing from the ones I came into the project with got two more executive editor Rob Watson and Barb abrahamson and they’re really awesome as the team behind our publisher Lisa hickey and then we have a boardwalk the numbers on that when it was Ken Goldstein he kind of keeps our our business and a flow and really helps guide our our overall idea and our mission where what direction we’re heading in that’s so awesome yo what just struck me as you’re saying this is if I were a hetero ish woman in this world I would want to get your phone number yesterday because you are reading some of the most potent relevant state-of-the-art of evolving masculine Consciousness project you must you must have yeah I would love to put you on a dating show or something I mean who wants to date the executive editor to give info to review you have a lot of things to talk about you probably can keep somebody entertained on a date to see the lease with all that knowledge so all of the best and brightest most honorable respectable sentiments in heartfelt commentary and well I just want to thank you for that that that the woman in me says thank you and I already got your phone number so he has no I won’t ask you to give it out anything but I still don’t have one yet cuz he I just relocated back to the United States and getting a phone is low on my priorities and it was has been so that’s why I’m the Skype guy right now all right man so yeah thank you again for sharing your story and I love that it came from but do you have the Haiku or can we hear it it cuz I’m sure we could find him but I could not it’ll take me just a second here I think it’s it’s going to be worth it cuz if it’s got to be so endearing there it is yeah I knew I had it in there somewhere oh yeah that was 2013 wasn’t it you get up there and Street Corner plug shave big spring loaded paper clip is Razor of choice that sounds so I don’t like Johnny Cash or something it’s got this this grit to it traditional forms like that especially the short forms they really lend to that because you’ve got to focus on on the Rhythm you have to focus on the sound if you don’t it’s just it doesn’t work you know and so it really you know you do do get a heavy rhythm in it always right on that right on so do you want to tell us about your knowledge of the GMP Origins and Mission and and offerings for those who aren’t subscribers or contributors yet numerous times the pursued contributors specifically because of the topics and they’re really important because one of our you know what kind of one of our advertising lines are marketing lines is a conversation no one else is having and it’s a conversation about where are we in the 21st century with our views of masculinity and we’ve had Decades of civil rights gains we’ve had Decades of women’s rights games we’ve had Decades of lgbtq Rights games in all of this there’s been a lot of exposure of the oppressive systems that exist and how we go all the way from Les over forms of Oppression that are easy to see down to Cove or forms to where are the forms of Oppression having been internalized by the trust and they continue to perpetuate the oppression themselves within all of that advancement there was very little and really no talk about what do we do about these outmoded toxic oppressive patriarchal models that have proven to be unbeneficial to humanity so that’s where the idea of the project comes in is the we look at these movements as our predecessor this is what we have to build off in to learn from but we need to turn the lens around and we need to turn it on men and we need to really look at how do we Define masculinity because as we open the social acceptance of gender identity as being non-binary we now have to really rethink our traditional stereotypes of the rolls and the boxes that we put mint in and throughout the project. Contributors come in that are pursued that I said hey you’re doing amazing work I want to put it on the good men project and its really, but they will come back and say I don’t know if I can do this I don’t see myself as a good man so we don’t Define what a good man is you’re not going to go into the good men project you’re not going to search for 10 things that will make you a good man because those 10 things don’t exist because it’s for each man to really decide for himself what is his concept of masculinity how does he perform it and why and what effects does it have so we really think of it as this is for the beginnings of the project is that a lot of guys we go along and for everybody nobody wants to think of themselves as a bad person nobody wants to think of themselves as perpetuating oppression as being complicit to oppression but when your entire social doctrination makes you internalized that dominant as part of one of the dominant demographics you internalize that and you act that way and you don’t see it until you get to a point of developing your self-awareness that you can see what did I just do to her to the person of color sheet that to my friend to all wow and you reach a point where you kind of look in the mirror one day in your life wow I thought I was a good man but I’m not and it needs to stop so we really look at it how we can make ourselves better and extend that to the community around us and it’s really in the last few years in particular it’s become a lot more community-driven it always has been but that’s getting a lot stronger now so that’s what we’re looking at is you know how can we how can we address these issues and not attack them but deal with them in in Russian always and give suggestions and give exposure to what is going and this is where we start Ty and where we’re looking now with being in a political climate and a social climate that’s coming where these oppressive attitudes are being placed in the leadership role once again and hopefully it’s like you know what last dying kick of them and they’ll be gone soon but they’re not so we’ve got to build a strong Community around that to be able to deflect absorb and to change because fortunately we came off of you know a good 8-10 years of Allah exclusive progress socially and politically in this country which regardless of whether we like it agree with it or not we can’t deny the fact that the country’s political movements and social movements do influence and reflect globally primarily through pop culture in the media so what we’re putting out there is going out there to the world and if we can get a grip on that and look at these different levels of Oppression that really for me is becoming kind of a core issue it’s like we’ve got we got racism we’ve got all of these things going on but if we have that awareness that inclusiveness and that Community to build around it to work on it against the oppressive models that are hitting everybody each one of these oppressed demographics needs the help and we’ve all got to come together around that and that’s where we’ve been taking the good men project in the last couple of years is trying to give people the tools and the experience under the Community Support to get out there and try to dismantle these institutionalized structures of racism of Oppression of sexism of death of the environment in the culture right on man yeah I was I’ve been thinking about that a lot recently just how unprecedented it is for there to be a core value of non oppression that’s very deep reaching at and really is forcing everybody who is on that path of self-inquiry to indict most of the institutions we’ve taken for granted and it’s quite the rabbit hole in I really applaud it it’s it I applaud the efforts I’ve made some contributions here and in want to be and will be submitting more stuff what time so you’ve obviously learned so much you’re you’re you’re you’re speaking about this shift is happening and facilitating the shift of self-inquiry and defining goodness for oneself with a supportive your peers who are who are also walking the path what are you what would you say what would you say are some of the maybe some of the most challenging most heart-wrenching patterns that you that you’ve noticed for just the purging of all of this negativity and end in reconciling guilt reconciling shame from a lifetime waking up after a lifetime or most of a lifetime of unquestioned you know stuff where it would have some real tearjerker moments you’ve had as you’ve been processing all this stuff like a liver you know it’s not changed and for the individual it’s not going to change unfortunately anytime soon if it does and it’s when I first came into the project I was handed a basically it was a year-long journal primarily prose poetry from Magnum spoon Jackson who in the early 70s was not a good man he was 19 he was married in a crime of passion his wife ended up Dad he got sentenced to life without parole he spent almost two decades Plus in solitary allowed outside for an hour a day if the guards were happy with them but they generally weren’t he so freeform he started by you know going inside of himself cuz that’s all that was there he had outside connection through the window of Nature and the birds and it was a lot of the journal was talking about his connection with these birds and what he was learning and growing from himself then threw in the late eighties dejar de arts and crafts and program in the state of California the artists musicians painters poets writers into the prison system for the people on death row and for the people in life without parole to give the art therapy and in spoon Jackson’s case it was incredibly successful and that was really for him that was kind of like a final key of his is self-referral Nation because of the the details of the legalities of his case he has to serve the term and you know my first what’s my first year every day I was going through that journal and breaking it down and getting a daily post from it and I’ll tell you there were some days where I came came away from doing that Daily Post and it took a few days to Shake it Off. Spend you know the story so many times through but then there’s also just the the ones that they bring tears to your eye but they’re the other kind of tears and that’s where you have somebody that comes in and this has happened so many times that you know we need we get some missions in through our online portal and then those go through the executive team and we decide you know which editor is going to be working with that writer if it’s a writer that’s been with us for a while they already have an editor if it’s a new writer than we decide and for the first two years ago that I was added in I became but the kind of go to editor for the potentially problematic straight white male post and diet have to filter a lot of well if I can just be pretty straightforward about it basically kind of like it’s almost like infiltrators you know they come in with a particular agenda which a lot of the times is promoting the stereotypes that were trying to break or is being thinly-veiled are masked misogyny and they try to get like a foot in the door picture keeps engaging yeah but what else is out there so it’s not that I mean those are kind of rare instances and it’s pretty easy to tell what’s going on especially when you start going into a person’s blog and you just check and see what they pop elsewhere and it’s like oh okay well you know forget about this guy you know he’s got some work to do but these guys come in and it’s the you know the language base that there are coming from in their life experience as straight white men primarily it’s you know in middle-aged run my age they they came up in that really traditional like varmints so the perspective not quite be there but as soon as I go in and say Hey you know you’ve got a really valid point that you’re talking about in this but there’s a lot of problematic language that we need to deal with and just give them the information and explain it to I’m just you know like I would do you know if a friend or family or anybody else and that’s your job cuz you’re the editor and ends up coming out of it is they’re just like oh oh that was not my intention at all but I totally see it now I never thought of it that way and you know I just got to say this is the good men project will have a budget to develop either an app or a or a browser plug-in that translates the patriarch of anchor should I click a button like whoa or something a lot of our contributors come in as people who have a passion for writing or a passion for a topic but they’re not necessarily perfect so that’s another big part of the job is helping these new voice is kind of find their voice and sculpt it and within a way that fits with our editorial guidelines which at the base are really simple and I love our editorial guidelines so much because the basic principle is Do no harm and if you look at it each post as I do it that’s what I’m thinking is if I post this is there anything in it that could do harm and that’s the the principal we go on and we’ve got much clearer guide lines when it comes into the the heavier topics about what we can and cannot post especially around the suicide topic for sure is a big one that we have to be very cautious with because we know that the rate of suicide for 4-man is disproportionately higher and but a lot of it has to do with these high-quality a rosian of privilege and the it’s seen as a Bad Thing by people who are still clinging to it and it’s not it’s a good thing it’s going to be better for everybody once it is gone but yeah that’s kind of some of the that idea but you know we can make a better world we got a tree at the art to make that their world and that we have to have the artist to do it and that nobody is perfect were all very different degrees of a mix of good and bad depending on really sometimes who were with and the environment that we’re in and that we just have to look at how can we make ourselves better you know and learn more and listen more is probably the biggest one I think for with the projects trying to get some of the guys to wrap their heads around is the you really you really got to stop and listen and then what is so fascinating because yeah I’ve known you for so long and we’ve been we’ve kicked pieces I’ve written back and forth and only now is it really daunting on me how multi-faceted your your role is curating this content which is kind of giving a voice to these wounded souls and hearts who are striving to shed light on things and it isn’t just a commercial commercialized cranking out stuff that’s somehow related to be the most profitable you just really yeah really facilitating in a stewardship kind of role of this movement I just can’t thank you enough and it makes me wonder would you ever as it I know you have a background this as a teacher would you ever I don’t know right up my writing a book is so such an Endeavor these days and everything is such a moving Target but even do YouTube videos or best practices even just the most basic I don’t know if you’ve done this or if you would consider doing it but to help people at different stages of literacy different stages of you no experience with creative writing and journalistic writing and just kind of via a technical support in a Way Beyond the editing is that something you thought about her that you’re doing especially since I relocated back to the US where things are more expensive to survive in the next year so I’m going to be branching out and I’m done working with well first I’ve started to work with a couple of riders you are working on social justice topics who are turning their dissertations into books and more kids but looking for clients who are interested in developing a voice and learning about the you know the online publishing and and how to do it but there’s also there’s a lot going on within the good men project at well that keep cycling we’ve got quite a few training and classes that we do one of her most popular is on social change just kind of how to create social change because we’re coming off of what we got six years with the project now actively everyday reading strategies for social change and then we have to have a class on using social media to develop your reach it’s geared towards writers primarily but anybody who is doing any sort of online promotion or sales can definitely benefit from our experience across numerous platforms and how to get the most leveraged out of that then we have there are some writing and editing courses as well we’ve got two levels of that you know check that out and then the cool by the most exciting thing right now for me is our social interest groups and we’ve got those up and running and have for a couple of months now we completed one on men’s mental health there was really amazing we have a 1 on the rebuilding post-election on how to reform and redesigned to go after the issues that people care about we just finished up our first stop racism group and that one will be starting up again in a week or two and that one is amazing because it’s only 4 weeks 1 hour call once a week for 4 weeks and I did the first one with the leader of it Jackie Summers and the way he has it structured you come out of it identifying where you are out within a social change movement what your position is true you need to find and how to create an action plan for directly changing the insurance braces got another really good one coming up as well on the environment it’s going to be James Blakely and Neil Hill and you lied mentioned before is really insightful ecologist the concept of ecology goes even deeper with him for the last not sure how many years now he’s been on and he’s got a mountain with mountain goats and wild cats in the whole deal like full live healthy ecosystem the village is right there and has been there for thousands of years and so that’s one of the big things that we want to look at through this environmental group is all of our social justice all of our social issues come down to environmental if we look at the way that we treat oppressed people and we look at the way we treat the environment yeah there’s a big connection there and they in within that they it’s the indigenous people who hold the key to our survival they have the knowledge of with the environment and what the shifting environment the we have going on now but we’ve done a pretty good job globally of trying to completely suppress and eradicate those those people in those cultures just we recently I’ve seen play out in this country I mean so and then I was talking with me all the other day about these issues and brought up a really really strong point is that you know not only we can’t take people out of the ecology. Doesn’t work but it’s also the getting people to recognize just within your local immediate environment being conscious and aware and being a caretaker and you’re around that we build community and Community protects us against social problems right you know you know you’ve stuck your hands in the dirt a few times starting soon that’s non heteronormative parenting and that is going to be led by a gay father of two straight kids in a straight mother of two gauge hits this is like we’re really excited about this one cuz this is one of those that we can really take progress for gender and sexual identity rights in this country and really get it rooted in parenting you know that’s the best way for change unfortunately all these problems that were facing that we’ve been talking about on this call we want to see him changed for some of us we’ve been working for a long time to get them changed we’ve seen progress we seen it diaper us but the solution we’re not going to really see the problem races in the environmental problems all of these problems are going to take generations for them to really be solved and to go away but we’re at a critical time but if we don’t put out the right information and really actively daily think about and work towards these changes it’s going to go the other direction yeah absolutely this is we’re pushing the boulder uphill right now but at least it says the terrain of just Consciousness and awareness in all of the facilitation of Technology the Internet it’s it’s really given those I would say oh yeah you and I had to be Street punks to make a statement and really suffer and really be at risk of I mean back then in Oregon all kinds of hardcore extreme violent bigotry of all kinds and it’s it’s it’s just it’s beautiful now to look back and see how every generation is pushing pushing the boulder uphill but it’s it’s where shaving we’re sort of hacking at it as we go you know where’s it is and the terrain is changing so it’s there’s no excuse we’ve got all the tools and all of the resources in seeing the next the generations coming up after us have a beam or facilitated and figure things out a lot sooner that’s the thing I’m just like wow I’m so envious of these next Generations because it took me so long to get to some of these fundamental understandings and so it’s just it’s going to accelerate in in but yeah I agree we’re just planning the seeds of a lot of things but it’s glorious don’t be depressed don’t kill yourself stick around as long as you can cuz it’s like so exciting I feel you know seeing all this transformation happen and you know it’s very Stark I do you feel like the and how do you personally feel about this what looks like it’s going to be a big back backlash politically for the next few years at least do you feel do you feel kind of like we’re ready to take it on now as the more conscious not anti-oppressive Progressive community that it’s it’s we’re going to just make it a laughing matter to you know wipe away all of this madness and I’m curious about divorce so depressed but I feel they charge to know charged up at well first off you know I came back after you know I’ve been living out of the country for 14 15 years or so and I came back in October before the election with the idea of pretty much knowing that it was going to be the Republicans that took it and it didn’t really matter who it was that they put up because we’re coming off of a two-year Democratic president and there is yet to be in the history of this country to turn Democrat followed by a Democrat except for FDR but he did it all himself and then they wouldn’t let anybody else do it again and it’s not like that’s not like the conspiracy thing there it’s just the statistics you know so trying to beat the numbers on this election was tough to begin with and yeah everybody got surprised but is it a surprise that a person on a like you know heavy platform of bullying becomes the president of a country that’s bounded on these ideas you know that’s not that’s not a surprise you know it’s like it’s a surprise if you don’t know the history of this country and I think of it in some ways the coming off of The Good the mass of progress that we made over the last 10 years or so that this is almost like a kickback from that it’s almost like hopefully the last death throes of this mindset this oppressive bullying mindset that this country has been a dick to for so long that it’s going away as we see with you know especially with the Millennials yeah there is people poke a lot of fun out on this and that and everything as far as like social Consciousness like you you were saying yourself it’s like whoa they came on board with this stuff like already pre-loaded and it took us a like couple of decades wow this is exciting you know and I don’t think that these these power structures and into the society and we need to do a lot of work today get them out and can’t be complacent about it but I think that we’re seeing it in its Decline and its final days and this is something that we have to deal with now and hopefully it is that. Turn that up turn is his we see more and more awareness we’ve got this amazing communication tool that were using right now called the internet that you know we can have a almost Global impact and we’ve seen what that did with things like Arab Spring and for social and political change regardless of the few know how that plays out of the history books will decide later but the simple fact of using it as a tool for activism and change is unprecedented and we’ve got that experience we’ve also got the experience of the Occupy Movement which for all of its failings also had some pretty positive things to it brought Collective awareness way of fire about social issues we’ve got you know the WTO protests in Seattle where a lot of lessons were learned and even in the recent protests just post-election that I witnessed here in Portland I saw like you know from 23 years ago but there are definitely in a lot more strategical and tactical things going on they are coming from this but moving forward we really need to rethink a lot of these things off of the lessons that we’ve learned from these different movements and figure out how we can use our communication tools and use our knowledge to try to turn it around and the we’ve got it all laid out for us you know the the presidents are there and I think one of the biggest ways that we can do it is we’ve got to look at the big picture financial and economic because that’s really you know if we look oppression and why people are oppressed this goes back through colonialism and colonialism was for Capital and it was all about the money and if we not just follow the money but put pressure on the money that’s not that’s how the civil rights protest is you know if all the sudden you’ve got like 75/85 95% of your writers are no longer writing and buying tickets at bus companies going to go under and they’re going to change their policy right real quick and then and those are the things that we need to look at it like your your Target and go after it unrelentlessly and tell they give up and it went up Financial end of it something that I’ve been thinking a lot about lately is the if we can convince but the power holders they are in the ultimate privilege to hear the loss of that is number 1 not a problem and is it going to put anybody on the on the slip reverse side of it cuz there is none but also to see that by economically oppressing a large percentage of a population you are stifling the progress and they just Basic Finance if you have more resources to draw from your going to create more from and if we would take the economic oppression out they financially for the entire country it’s going to be much better right that’s something a lot of people I don’t think her aware of it most of the most of the freedoms that we have to well what’s a it was it was the evolution of of Commerce that got some of the most racist backward policies of the so-called old world to actually dissolve because they realized wait we could actually innovate more if we facilitate people having things like bodily Integrity rights and give people confidence that if they were to develop something that would could be intellectual property would just be stolen away from them by the king so yeah The Liberation is is it’s good for its it’s good for the invisible hand if you really want that worship the Invisible Hand Adam slick you know cuz we know money talks and if you if you want to know what’s going on you follow the money if you want to change what’s going on you put pressure on the money and if you really want to like just flip it upside down and make it into something new you encouraged the money to go in that direction so all we have to do is getting rid of Oppression and we’ll be all good to go over and over again so yeah I have I have full faith that mean Packers are doing so much there’s so much so many old oppressive institutions or just monopolies and racquets that are dissolved because it’s because of apps and technology so yeah if we are on the rise and so many people have sacrificed their lives and been bludgeoned an incarcerated who had so so many fewer I just typed from me and it’s really hard to get depressed for more than a few seconds really because there’s so much power and potential that we now have it our fingertips that we just did not have you can’t really have the spare Irwin I mean I don’t think you can really sustain it if you were passionate about change because we have so much opportunity now and it’s just a matter of of trying everything and adapting and being quick on our toes and not just being not just being like I said not only at the mercy or consumers of other people’s technology but you know open source solutions that give us the opportunity to continue to share and we’re not so yeah I just I just want to reaffirm this this up swing of the curfew for empowerment and you’re really leveraging that with the good men project and I’m very excited for your freelance offerings to be made more are you going to do have a website that we can check out for just supporting you and your efforts and keepingyouwell afloat and well but yeah I don’t have set up yet that’s part of the the plan over the next few months is to start getting to work on that but I am on Facebook I’m on the the Masthead of the good men project and you can find me a through email there as well as in social media where I live so when you do get your website together we’ll be sure to just add it to this page because podcast is growing and overtime more people will you know find this episode even if it’s in the archives and so they’ll be a lynx whenever you’re hearing this podcast episode anytime in the future please do go back to this episode number 81 to find the link to wilhelmus website which is forthcoming and yeah well we covered a lot do you have any other thoughts or anything you want to share anything you want to shout out for make sure you stop by and visit good men project and Goodman project.com pretty easy and check out our Facebook pages we’ve got quite a few of them I’m just a little search and you’ll find us right on well thank you so much again it was great reconnecting with you and I promise to be more consistent in my submissions I think yeah it’s it it is you invited me to kind of have a profile and then I’ve contributed poetry and essays and I need to get on it I need to be consistent so I’m going to make that played straight how to until I have tons of money to give I’m going to give tens as well I won’t bug you but I’ll be giving you more words well thank you so much you have a great night and we’ll be in touch soon. 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