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Hacking Group Romance as a Porn Director not a Cult Leader TPP200

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In this episode I’m joined by a mystery guest for a wild comedic adventure into the repressed caverns of my erotic mind. She holds enthusiastic and giggly sacred space for me to get on a roll lamenting about the current state of monogapathic culture. She helps me get through a lot of catharsis in exploring my life history of drama and madness surrounding opening up to more inclusive group sexual and romantic encounters. With her gracious support, I’m able to take liberties in the manner in which I share some of my most passionate and taboo-breaking fantasies. With care and consideration for ethics and holism, I attempt to induce a few laughs as I graphically depict my experimental designs for hacking group romance.

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Com and our journey together will begin pillow their beloveds welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 200 I just got back from an East Coast tour with the punk rock metal band and I’m thrilled to say we had a great time and did very well and I made it back in one piece and this is an exciting episode 200 Extravaganza where are some of my backlog recording this and this was one of the one of my favorite ones that I had to choose from for the episode 200 and I think you will really Joy it is definitely something different it is it is a my first summer unintentional extended comedy monologue with a a wingwoman of sorts and she’s holding space for me to bring forth into a level of of hilarity that I don’t normally I don’t know don’t normally summon and don’t really feel as is often appropriate but once you get on a roll when you start to really stimulate somebody’s Funny Bone verbally then it’s it’s hard not to to just run with his so it may be offencive it may be a little over-the-top and in that what we’ve come to appreciate about that classic stand up comedian form is that you’re able to get away with exposing truths in a very heated very sometimes aggravated state of mind and people cathartically get off on someone else saying what speaking out there are deeper taboo thoughts so if this is the first episode you’ve heard of mine it is definitely uncharacteristic of most of the rest way I tend to joke here and there but really really typically try to be pretty reserved and really focus on a I’m more of a dialogue with a guess this in this case it’s it’s almost completely One Direction all but her being there is absolutely essential in order to get that Dynamic flowing and it certainly in the sense of Comedy it really helps I don’t know how people can just write write comedy in their own inner sanctuary and not have that that reverberation in that that feedback and and dynamic but anyway this is a lot of fun and what we’re talking about what I’m talking about. Manly and she’s helping hold the space for me to really mansplain in an unethical way really is talking about the the bloopers and Antics and Folly and what I’ve learned from attempts to hack this notion of group romance and really learn from a lot of mistakes and really create sort of personal interpersonal living breathing think-tank research experiment out of how to best overcome the limitations that we have in most modern patriarchal monotheistic minago Pathak cultures where our options are very limited and our experience and Expo are two other modes of loving and healing and relating romantically they’re completely systematically cauterized by these Disneyland archetypes of monogamy and whatnot so I get into the higher level kind of macro cultural analysis and critiques and then we get into a lot of really fun really absurd ridiculous and playful visual kind of comedic audioporn take to get through some of the designer ideas of how to how to be hacking group romance and I’m really this is it from my perspective a a male centered male-oriented you could call it phallocentric you could say I’m being a chauvinist here but really I think it’s about making sexual gratification in the feeling of love and connection amongst people be as egalitarian as possible and really work with what you have within your your orientation your identity your group of friends and just explore those boundaries and really gamify group romance and hopefully this really stands is a introductory Treatise on why it’s important to explore these things and what the the payoffs are so hope you enjoy it this is definitely for me one of my top favorite episodes of all time because of where we where we get to in the end of Vibes of it you know I hope that it leaves you rolling on the floor and also curious and also emboldened to take more adventurous steps in the future of your love life all right thank you very much if you’ve been with me along waist episode 200 thank you for for being with me and enjoy this historic episode thank U Namaste and they would not be comfortable with you hacking the storylines of of compulsory monogamy and telling stories very festive stories about what it’s like to like not be in patriarchy and like it she does she know yeah that’s what good for sale teacher reflect a picture or no one’s happy everybody’s miserable and just whining about it new relationships breaking out and being her and then just repeating the cyclist over and over is very defeatist like cry about level of times but at least you’re feeling something at least you’re not a total sociopath narcissist like don’t even care spending to steal it self-inflicted stuff too cuz you just like wanting holding on to like the painful stuff I guess we’re like people that aren’t making like the best for you but it’s sad and it’s like Basin and being married and being screwed if you lose that Financial Lifeline life support so there we have listed this is the in permaculture design Geoff Lawton and it likes to use this teaching to a witches that when it comes to like agriculture what you’re talking about gardening earlier today but it’s like this so if you only plant one crop in a field that’s a lot like fishing with a single line where they know that if that crop fails or that line breaks your your your Sol and so the smart Fisher person would say I let me fish with a net so that if one or even several of those lines break with internet I still have a functioning device here so that’s what you could systems do and that’s why polyculture in gardening and Horticulture polyculture means multiple different phrase things as opposed to monoculture so you can make this analogy very happy to monogamy and monoculture and still what’s resilient in an ecosystem diversity right the more diverse ecosystem the more resilient it is the more flexible adapter is in more abundant and flourishing it is so monoculture monogamy monotony it’s and then that’s why people are living in this wounded heart broken real disaster of a reality and it’s just profit people that make the Laurie handlers cuz it seems like I’m she said in her podcast if this was a easy the country cafe or sex and happiness she said to podcast over the years she makes an excellent point that she’s over his doesn’t not interested in the heartache that sells and wants to crack break your heart open to love everyone pretty much and to have new experiences and to be open to new experiences and so have a very regenerative heart and I would like the concept of being a heart Gardner so like I’m trying to I have not just one heart that I love her that I tend I have a garden that I attend of many hearts and some of them need more attention at times some of them you know every more self-sufficient some of them could tell me to get lasted for cough and don’t even want want me like even looking at them and everything in between so then you know being a heart Gardner and trying to keep them all alive and and not neglect them and be responsible for like letting them Blossom letting them rot on the vine either you know anyway so there’s so much to learn and so much to sing about so sincere singer I’m a singer we’re going to think about this stuff. We also actually I need to have experience to know where the fuck were talking about so that’s where we begin with what where does the authentic Journey actually begin and that’s where we and I just watched Breakfast Club where they were it’s like this painstaking process of socially engineering the truth out of what how and what circumstances virginity was happening or not happening so we all have virginity is two different things even if we popped her cherry City this week so so we’re at the precipice of The Virginity of your experimental lesbianism is it a few dedicated to your not identified as a woman now what do you mean what I mean is that my I’m very interested in the notion of you having sex with a woman if you if you want to sit at one point I was very blunt and I asked you and I risked I risked being considered a British attend to try to do that so it’s basically asking if I’m if you’ve ever had if you would have ever had sex with a woman and if not would you like to and you said you would like to but you like to what you say roll around with me first right I think that’s yeah so that could be arranged so basically you know that’s compromised that’s that’s how you have probably that’s the beginning of it is like what do you need what a minor needs how can we meet in the middle somewhere and so well this is what is so interesting to me and what I am going to share is like my design concept that I put a lot of effort into trying to figure out which is this is that okay if we really break the stuff down what we don’t have what we have a lot of experience of as children is being gently yet with with I would say lowercase authoritarianism weird we are compelled by adults to share toys and we learn against whatever maybe that jealous or envious nature or selfish nature we learn to to actually eventually Delight in the gift of sharing something with others so that we actually realize that there’s this abundance of my face you know it’s not like hopefully it’s not like you don’t eat the toy in the toy is something that doesn’t get destroyed after one use of the toy I’m so that you can hand it on and and let other people experience so what somewhere along the path of puberty we get program to lose that fundamental sociability and Collective position of like the toys that we would be sharing on the playground and once we develop and grow and have her own public Parts in appropriate age appropriate settings to explore Inn Express in which we all know is lacking in this culture and that’s why we have abusive all kinds cuz we don’t have rice passage and we don’t know when we are to do wet when howl with himself in a healthy way or holistic way I should say so we’re we are fumbling in the dark trying to figure this stuff out and somewhere we get cursed with these imprints of monogamy that is compulsory compulsive Naga me bound up in Notions of being a prince and a princess and all of these socioeconomic status oriented ways of like something being mine a person me owning that person this status symbol so there’s I’m not saying anything for you know this groundbreaking to indict these memes and this culture architecture and you know they have spoken to like many people feminists just look at feminist anthropology in the critique of domestication in the in the critique of civilization and patrilineal descent and the the the the way that wealth and land and power is handed down from a meal bloodline Emil name Inlet that’s why you control you would need to control the female sexuality and reproductive freedom in order to guarantee that your son gets your land in and not someone else’s so that’s that’s the patriarchy connection and we want to what super tall that perverted and silver and actually compost the patriarchy is she so I don’t think there’s a there’s no there’s nothing more subversive then then then opening up relationships because once you start buying less because old do do we need to each have our own garage filled with tools from big box stores or can we all share one fucking tool set amongst us all lovers sharing each other’s bodies it’s not rocket science and it’s not rocket science way they have made it so difficult to be relating sexually openly with computers with a peer group and neighborhood of adults because they want us all to be in our little boxes buying one of every that have everything and not sharing anything and therefore it cuts into their bottom line so we are doing our best to compost the patriarchy to be subversive and actually have a lot of fun doing it it’s not a dip revation and sacrifice to have more fun sexually with more people it is a little bit more requisite of time for emotional care and tenderness for sure it’s complicated and it is and is medically important to be but if it’s as if you can play any video game that you play any board game you can gamify Sexual Health in a group you can end in the end not to do bring it to the light and be like okay well we match here like literally HSV expressing in one part of the body can match to that and another person other parts of body and you can pretty much pretty much know you’re safe at that point there’s there’s ways to gamify these things so that you know curses can be blessings in yet make it very used that’s who we need to design the user-friendly interface for people to connect and 4 shame and not even just the end of course the STI status stuff but also people who just have body issues about so we can be mixing and matching his stuff and yeah. There’s an app for it kind of a thing you know in this world so so we’re getting there and you know you pull the card and you know people who so it will and that’s why that’s the reason to do yoga so that you can hold these sexual positions forever because he like baby words said when a man basically two pair of fruit to fear fear for his baby Ward and I’m mixing a couple of I’m adding a couple together of her if you’re beautiful phrases but basically if I were Davey word I would probably say something like if I if I was balls do you know when your balls deep in me I want it to last forever I want your penis in my vagina forever and I can’t Rainman how to make that possible and actually there was a good scene in Jerry Maguire where she asked for him to she’s don’t ever stop fucking me in a kind of like kills the mood when he says I think I’ll have to stop at some point and then they fucking break up with a douche no sorry to tell you I love you tons hear me okay forget about it Interview with the Vampire okay stop me somebody for the cold water on me right now all right yeah it was Saved by the Bell you is just batteries going to last all night long you’re you’re you’re getting okay so it’s yours work as graphic this is where he’s going to get more perverted this is building it up so building and Outdoors like what is it why does this matter that’s why why am I trying to have so much fun packing monogamy and the shame and the pain and the jealousy and the limitation it’s just it’s false it’s completely insane and in deranged and and I will not tolerate it for one more second my life and in that spirit I say I’ve done the boyfriend-girlfriend thing I’ve done in monogamy thing I’ve done a jealousy thing and then a hard brake thing so if somebody enters my life and is attracted to me I go out how this is interesting erotic energy flowing in my direction how can I not manipulated not abused if not not not heard it or harm it but actually let it flow through my little garden design of more pleasure and then also this is the thing where I feel like I’ve made an important hack an important this is because this is been going back to how we learn to share so this is as an adult with adult content adult appropriate settings of course but really bring it down and that’s why I am a huge fan of psychedelic sexuality because it inhibits the neurotic aspects of the ego and if you’re going to trust in space and you have referees and you have good guidance and going on in people are observing and being Sheriff’s that to the boundaries when the people are you know any in there Altered States but would you with the beauty of it is that you get to explore again and you get to explore bodies and he could do store your own body and it’s not a story about who’s owns this and who’s rights to this and fuck where’s all the paperwork and did I swear to it tonight so that’s and it doesn’t have to be an orgy of people fucking very sloppily very carelessly when you get into the tantric practices of massage wherever it’s about it’s really the best things really happen with the most intentional experts killed manual and leading up to of course different forms of penetration with genitals but it’s underrated how much how much pleasure and how deep deep healing we can be with their hands with each other in and really there’s no excuse not to be doing that cuz you’re not going to make babies and they just called outercourse or mutual masturbation went on so that’s where rather than rushing from first base to second base and all of that hyper rush to the Finish Line stuff fit culture this culture is trained to do you actually can start out saying okay it could literally be a fun and fulfilling and safe Friday night for a group of friends 2 take each other to take their clothes off and use their hands to induce different types of orgasms in each other consensually and into explorer that and so that’s where I say the games of politics becomes like whose are you fucking that is long as you if you if you keep that off the table a little just long enough and this is what so at what I have there is like a Zone that is safer emotionally and medically to play in in groups to actually start to rewire and meltdown those belief systems so that you have a clean slate in in your capable of exploring slowly and building on the new Pannu template that you design and we’re very plastic a blank brain can be reformatted we can 3 format is hard drive as many times we want there’s no limit to it and we were it’s absurd to think they were stuck in a 2000 year old paradigm I’d rather be in a 200,000 Euro Paradigm cuz that’s where the real phone was happening anyway but we’re going to get to the Primal Anarchy of lovemaking groups in just a minute now so break here’s how we break from breakthroughs goes invisible prison cells in our minds about monogamy and so I figured it out like how I would like to conduct a ceremony words like okay this is my penis here and there’s people that want to play with it and put it in different parts of their bodies and hopefully have a good time with it and if it really like Gibson gets them there and brings them there and then delivers the goods then they will become deeply deeply addicted to that experience and Anna on a level that is that is beyond any extreme passion of any terrorist has any ideology the amount of passion that and I would say a woman from in my experience the level of chemical spiritual just that’s what we should be living for men who love who love women is like for them to be taken so far out and so far in that they will want to kill other people who take threatened to take that experience away from them I every other women that you’ve ever known that you might never know so that’s where we have this conundrum which is like it is so good like I want you to be obsessed with me but I do not want you to be obsessed with me you know cuz that’s right cuz I’m going to kill myself if you’re not obsessed with me but I’m going to run away from you and run into the street if you’re obsessive me so either way I die do you know yeah and I had to run in the street to avoid women who are obsessed with me and it’s no joke cuz otherwise I would have thought they didn’t love me if they weren’t a homicidal maniac it’s right so there’s a way to disperse that energy and it’s like oh wait a minute he’s fucking me but I’m making out with a woman and looking into her eyes and who do I lose what it oh my God is I don’t know who is fucking me right now but it feels great and I agreed to it like I signed off that anyone can fuck me tonight with this and that and this so like I don’t know who to write the check to you know what I mean like anymore it’s just too much just don’t stop so I’ve been there and I’m never going back to the the the hell rounds it is about diffusing that pleasurable experience across so many different Souls that it’s impossible to Tribute it to one person and really I believe that this is not an astoundingly long wide penis that I have that I think is perfectly shaped to do what it was designed to do and I’m happy with it whatever yeah I’ve gotten good reviews so far in life women who wanted to kill other women because they were so possessive of this thing that it’s just like always wants to do is just be warm and wet and love them that is so I have a beloved partner and you know I would kiss your boobs goodbye and tell him to be good every day knowing if she was like why I never did anything bad to anybody ever and I realized that was the pure essence of innocence is Brett’s cuz like you can never say that they ever do anything bad to never manipulated anybody they never play games with anybody they just give and give and give you know so anyway that’s another story if we could only all aspire to be as innocent as a breast but never do anything to hurt anybody ever never had to be told to be nice just what is nice you know x-ray sexual Zen state that people would have to meditate for years if they didn’t eat mushrooms to figure that out like become a breast and live in the consciousness of breast in this and just experienced pleasure and give pleasure and don’t fucking overthink it you know it as long as everybody is of legal age and sound mind and knows what they’re signing up for essentially we can work out the details but I’ve been in those moments where it’s like yes what’s making this woman lose her mind and ecstasy is 80% the emotional connection with other women that she is sharing and then I am there to be basically a prop to the beautiful. Theater of feminine understanding and that is when I understood For the First Time The futility of women trying to squeeze blood from a stone to make bullheaded dumb men who would rather be playing video games or breaking shit or glowing sit up or doing something fucking mindless and heartless for fun and just acting them and making them be a woman when they’re not a woman because they can’t explore sexual intimacy with other women because they’re afraid of the taboo of lesbianism and because it would be against the rules and whatnot so when melted down and was in a sensor Moniz were psychedelic ceremonies wear them all of these stories were melted away and it was just women in fucking ecstasy the agony and ecstasy and using my cock is a prop but also as an energetic current in a source of love and that my refinement was allow me to be in that space and I realize that it’s like it is so cumbersome to be responsible for a woman’s orgasm in a love making session why would I want all of that burden on myself it’s like I have to at my age I have to think about not coming too fast beat not losing my erection and in trying to make a sincere emotional sincere present connection with the person who I am kissing is with that is enough for me to have to do it now I’m responsible for her squirting and I like coming in the same say when I saw the leveraging of all these other women and how freely flowing the orgasms come when the openness in the connectedness is there with other women so so like I said I’m not taking a step back and now if anybody wants to come at me they’re going to have to go through that that ate a form of of grade school of learning in or black ass like that you’re going to come at me do you want to fuck me you need a black belt in loving me to get in and if you go into any Karate Dojo they’re not even said hey I want to do what you do can you hand me your black belt right now please here I’ll give you a beer can I buy you a beer and then you give me a black belt no stupid you’re so stupid Bibb so what was the quote from the movie UHF which is very a so you definitely watch UHF to understand where my sense of humor comes from but yes I’ll good good so so we’re solving this problem and creating these designer experiences and so what I realized is that the impulse for a woman to have this one-dimensional relationship with a man’s cock so that she wants to possess it so as you’re a very own the way for me to logically very very simple-minded lycee what is the how do you prevent that is to say well you will learn to get to know my cock at exactly the same time as another person and you will only have a 50/50 relationship with whatever you do you say like you would with your best friend and I had her saying in people may not like to hear me say is cuz it sounds good feed it to your best friend first feed it to your best friend first and I didn’t even think about the secondary effect of that which for me that was just that was just like I’m going to know that you’re not going to lose your mind with jealousy when you can just say here actually you can I’ll let you go first so that would be the the the tantric taboo test of transgression against yourself like that Siri you’re going to lose your mind will feel into that and start simple we’re going to dance together and you’re going to watch just that and is that make your blood boil what happens after your blood simmers down do you start to like so now it’s like whatever that point is where that demon comes out of jealousy you were going to rub the shit out of your clit until it goes and tell you what you’ve you become a demon Whisperer with your clit and me and everybody just wants to create more and add more locks to the fire and you transmute that negative emotion into a positive motion and then in the probably will be called conversion the opposite we don’t have a word for it we do not have a word except for that one which no one knows it set designer neologism but we don’t have the band singing about how good it feels to watch their wife get fucked by Adam Ant And so yeah here we come back full circle so we will be so we’re going to we’re going to have these experiences we’re going to sing about it and and so this is the this is the what the the the climax of this conversation will be in my opinion is is when I talked about how the it’s not just a theoretical Gaiden guiding principle to say oh yeah we’ll will like yeah okay you flip a coin and I have sex first with the person who wins that round and then I stopped having sex with you and hopefully it didn’t lose my wind in 5 minutes cuz I was so fucking turn on by the sexy after they all I got another $5 and it’s over for me for like they’re already like forgot every system anyway cuz they’re tearing each other inside out and everything and I’m just watching and trying to like make it come to live again and finally it will eventually but you should know I’m getting That’s The Hampsterdance the Tantra hence the sexual Jedi Knight training so that you can breathe breathe through and in have the orgasms without losing the love don’t be a 5 lb jump so hit the two feminists so I think I’m going to say okay if she’s dying to give me a blowjob then like we time it for like okay like we’re going to play your favorite song and it’s going to be about the same equal thanks to to her favorite song and you going to eat each other’s favorite songs and I’m like hold each other’s heads and massage each other and just be like holding each other from behind and Miss Priss massaging each other that they take turns but there’s still a potential in that for for jealousy to arise in forever and for it to be I mean I just thought of a way to actually literally short-circuit everything in a really beautiful elegant circuit and so here is the design and I will try to verbally explain unless they can so I love the idea of two women’s hands clasping together around my cock and massaging it gently up and down as they face each other and our eye gazing intermittently so the visual so far is is that the dear beloved goddesses or I are facing each other so actually agency kneeling I’m I am laying on my back and they both are kneeling with their literally as clothes into my armpit is possible so that I can reach Below in between their legs and butt so I can have a hand on each clit and vulva fingers is a good middle finger on the clit and to end so if I’m cuffing the vulva and able to use my longest middle finger to be stroking the each clit simultaneously in patterns you know singer sew and I’m basically playing streams is like playing guitar and make a solo I’m playing shift I have this is because the end of vocalizations or what I’m tuning for it you know so so it isn’t this beautiful instrument of a playing these two young hearts that are kissing each other and like I gazy and exactly is so I’m making sure that they’re not feeling left out in that apartment while I’m being stimulated and everybody is being stimulated sexually and everyone is feeling a part of a closed circuit that is meeting everyone’s needs and in and there’s no favoritism there’s no hierarchy the really so thin and if anything I am as the man in my back and that is what time trick Kali worshipping actual full fully pornographic and I hesitate to use that word was fully glorious erotic depictions of the circuitry of how this stuff works so if it’s if you’re not approve any 3 I mean if you’re not so sexually stunted then you would just understand that these icons are just road maps to the spiritual terrain of understanding the energetics of Shiva Shakti god goddess energy so we’re designing with that and we’re creating a maximum hydraulic energy flows in in in a way that is very egalitarian actually inhibits the growth of the ego and that sense of so-and-so I’ve experienced this in not that exact formation but that’s why I aspire to be a porn director so that I can I can work with people who are very comfortable taking Direction and are not going to lose their minds and so I actually had this conversation today they’re what makes me not a cult leader and what prevents me from ever becoming a cult leader is this one fundamental thing right but I have to study cold it is to know how not to be a quote later cuz otherwise I would just be cranking out so much Kool-Aid day Kool-Aid would have to invent a time to punch flavor you know I got to be sponsored by Kool-Aid the Kool-Aid man oh yeah it would have it I make my own Kool-Aid Man Township anyway after dark okay I wanted how they’ve not sued like I have all of the libelous memes and they feel bad for the Kool-Aid guy I didn’t fucking poisonous people man I don’t mean to be making fun of them and I really got to get serious about not making a joke out of the people who died in the massacre Crazy Eights it’s it’s it’s public domain now to make a joke to either the expression people say don’t drink the Kool-Aid it’s because people at Jonestown were by a charismatic cult leader who was it was an extremely right with it skips a generation maybe but that’s how memes get formed yes so I mean that’s how they sort of deprecated the roots and you say things that we don’t know how does the reason we’re numb it so they don’t drink the Kool-Aid means don’t consent to a groupthink. Virus that makes mass suicide be acceptable and so they poisoned the Kool-Aid punch and that’s how everyone can scented make give it to their kids and everyone is like this is fine and some people try to protest and they were silenced and some people try to run away and it was a nightmare and it was absolutely what I would I must not allow myself to become as a priest that uses sexual mind manipulation and coercive tactics to trade love and affection attention and orgasm for 4 unquestioning devotion into the point of suicide so that that’s the extreme case that that we that is a litmus test for if you were going down that slippery slope but I actually tend to want to study the mental illness of sociopath sociopathy narcissism and I would like to consider myself a benign I’m the benign narcissist I know that that is a character flaw that I am not how we going to like defeat by doing the past limitations as many times that night and I’m going to roll with it and I’m going to say yeah I will be like Howard Stern and I will be I’m going to if I’m going to be this personality I’m going to make a bonsai tree out of my own ego if I can and have other people help in the process but but things going going back to the to the cult thing and what me what gives me the authority to design this orgasmic Orchestra what why and how do you not just become a colder than soy everyone you meet is basically in that on that game board now how am I going to manipulate you to be in this in this position that I would like you to be in to fulfill my fantasy of engineering all this town truck stuff and and if I’m if I’m this is well that’s spit out the Kool-Aid don’t swallow I think what we’ll get to that for sure that’s going to be a we’re going to get to that but can’t forget that we’ll save that for the for the most triumphant moment the climax is when we’re going to use that it’s so precious now after it’s been built up so ever since a joke that’s going about 2 it’s going to explain come on your face it’s going to come on yesterday and you’re going to beg for it and so hits is it is I’ve had people beg me to come in the third eye and it was hard to resist but this is going to be almost as good as that sharing you this one liner inside joke and just a minute but to wrap up this sort of dark out thing that we were doing with the coal thing is that it how do you know how do I hedge against being the creepiest man every like people think that Barney the purple dinosaur because he and forgive me if I’m butchering the facts here but as far as I know he’s doing what I considered to be taboos for me which is charging women money to have sexual penetrative intercourse with them above all without protection and making that into a to me that’s not a scalable business model and you can ask your doctor wife but Barney I mean I get it and I get that that’s the love thing being cultivated generated so I think I don’t know whether I consider that good pressure bad press for modern Neo Tantra or what not but I’d love to have them on the podcast I’m sure it’s going to happen and I can’t say that I was a fan of the art form of Barney the purple dinosaur but but but I would love to get to the full story and also talked about the ethics and this medical the medical duty of care that comes with sexual and pinch of intercourse with anybody so anyway that’s the sad but who were talking about okay what if you were intrigued and maybe turned on by me talking about these erotic circuit boards then you also have to be somewhat red-flagged and starting to cringe and go where how old is this get arranged in what are the incentives and how do you how do you manage the Eagles and how do you who’s in charge it’s like you can’t it’s a scary thing but you wouldn’t work but that’s why when I went when I say what I realized for me the aha moment in my sexual career was that if I want to have out-of-the-box sex I have to pay lots of money for it from professionals who have trained her nervous system to do theater performance of sexuality as escorts or as Dom’s or as porn performers because they’re good sports they’re not spoil Sports about any of the stuff for the most part if they’re treated well and respected and then contracts are here too and they know what they’re getting into and hopefully they’ve matured and hopefully their brain has developed to its full capacity IE the age that it takes to actually I don’t say that to you exactly so you better know there’s a dimension of Ethics when it comes to harvesting teenagers for your for whatever Annette and I have had some of the best sex in my life as a 30 year old being fucked up fucked senseless by teenager in a row in a monogamous relationship and I will I will tell you that it’s it some it was worth the daddy issues that I had to deal with it was worth reparenting her and it was worth every bit of emotional kind of awkwardness that there wasn’t some of the an Amex because she was such a good full spirited Prime late night it was funny cuz I was like I want to settle you down and basically like I could teach your making a kid with ADHD sit in class is like no she wants to fuck wildly she wants you to perform more than you possibly ever could even at 30 and and she and she is not she doesn’t need these esoteric practices too heavy multi-orgasmic she’s fucking coming or brains out like so hard and I and I couldn’t sit her down the aisle still enough to do any of the practices that I thought were going to be so enlightening and went in the great thing is is it a fuck it like it is certain point you just say no guru there’s a song about it’s like no guru no no scripture No play just in the Dow of the thing so anyway so that’s a side note to say there is a sacred place for adult for fully mature brain develop adults to be having sex with teenagers and and I know that it can be done because I’ve done it but it also takes you can’t just treat them like a commodity please you got to you got to think about pedagogy Nikki learned from the person that you’re teaching teaches you things to like a circle so then so we’re talking about these ethics and where I wanted to just close that point about how I do my best to not be a cult leader I thought I figured it out pretty simply and correct me if I’m wrong but basically it’s it’s I dare you to to indict me for the the criminal and civil liability of misconduct for for for structuring a certain way so this is how I this is this is very simple as this is like this I said that this is a different the difference from a cult leader is that I’m a porn director I pay women to be directed and then I pay whoever I want to I will I will I will choose performers who I resonate with for whatever we would like to do together to make beautiful art and and I will compensate them and pay them to take time out of their lives to be a part of my design and to be directed by me they’re not paying me for healing for enlightenment for direction for guidance and I’m directing them and Meghan gratifying myself and taking their money in convincing mind fucking them and taking more of their money and more than money until they don’t talk to their friends because of and that’s how Colts are basically extractive from their students the colors are extracting from their devotees the difference is how many colors do you know that actually give their devotees money I will pay you oh now I’m making corned a porn director and I am more karmically correct than the fucking Guru who is fucking having people kiss his feet and take your money so who would have thought that the corn directors were the most enlightening Yogi’s to ever attempt to be divine and I have my favorites and I’m a fan of some of them I want I want to see the names but right now but that cuz I wouldn’t want to leave any out you know what I mean bless you all for paying people to direct them into your Twisted fucking fantasies and giving them that dignity like hats of their not wondering about it cuz there’s that was having a conversation today it’s like a buyer’s remorse if I say to you I’m just saying if you remember when you had to if you were old enough to know that there was a day when when when your allowance equals one CD for $15 so humorous if you never had experience this is important I think this is important teaching is important teachable moment is that is that and I don’t want to be today. Take care no man’s planning anything in them to have fun here but this is like this is this is late so here’s the funny thing though you think about I remember what it was like when I had to convince myself that amusing that a CD that fucking sucked was actually good because I paid money for it and I would not let myself suffer the indignity of having made a mistake so I was in a state of denial and delusion so so so feeling this isn’t meditation okay everybody think of something that you paid money for that you discovered was in the zoo is suboptimal and you used mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you actually liked it even though you knew deeply that you didn’t like it but it was called buyer’s remorse it was called the sunk cost fallacy of sunk cost fallacy is that because you invested something into this you have to continue beyond the point of no return because you can’t live with yourself other ways so that is this Twisted perverse placebo effect that happens when it’s like I went to the sex guru to get healed and he said for 9999 I would get here and but I but I could also upsell to the bonus extra double healing deluxe super Cosmic Crystal trademark excetera right thing and try before you buy money back guarantee accessories that you’re all of his legal he’s in fine print all the stuff but there is but that’s where it is we’re expecting to have some result that you paid money for and you will question whether or not okay did I was a hole in my heel did I pay enough money to pay more and some money and it is it distorts things and you did it it did contaminated in a way for that so I’m skeptical that I can be done right in that sense and that’s just me so what I say let’s work in the garden together my time equals your time and now we’re planting trees equals an hour of Yoni massage your prostate massage and therefore it’s a flat equal everybody has the same it’s his first come first serve you know and orgasms for work shirts that was my hand jobs for Humanity and helping a tree with two or so you’ll see it yeah it’s a white paper was written so is he ever gets faster so so that’s how I’m not going to be a cult leader is that I’m not going to charge people money to be Pawns in my game of or are you going to be players in my Game of Thrones Township Township twister you will get paid handsomely to be in my theater my game of Township twister and you can quit you can get any time you know that’s that’s that’s the thing to you won’t be like oh if I walk away now you know that then where I’m not like what I paid for I’m I’m already invested so much forever so so many different dynamics of of incentivization happening in this thing is so anyway that that was I think it is important to lay that out and and this is probably the first time I’ve articulated it on the podcast but I just was having this conversation today with this answer the CD metaphor thing where it’s like you know it did that it’s it’s a problem that way so so that’s I will not be extracting money from people in that in that way I’d rather pay them to be in my in my Productions and feel better about it that way so getting back to the fun stuff in the production itself so imagining that that would be the way from now on where I’m like if you want to that’s basically what I just described about that circuit of three people as a minimum to starting point is like that is the that is first base now you know that’s first base because getting into the circuitry of actual intercourse that’s where it required that’s where we get into the medical the medical responsibilities aspects and we get into more of the karmic sharing we’re really swapping scum he’s on an astral level at that point more so than if it’s an outercourse thing and you can’t go back once you know I don’t want to sound like a prepaid only sound like a six- future but but they were right about this mean you’re not wrong about everything they’ve had no sex for anybody ever. Is not the solution to people having sexually transmitted demons running rampant all over the place and it’s about making them your friends and making them work for you not against you and making them expose themselves properly and in you know where it’s not a pure realm we are not going to be perfectly protected in fear we can strive for that and we can use Kundalini and Prana and mantras and all of our medicines in purgatives and things to create a cleaner vessel to make more harmonious more resonance more signal-to-noise ratio and that is what to me this is all about and why we are missing out so badly to not be like I see this if God is wanted you got it for not created to nipples I can’t suck both nipples at the same time I tried some women I can do it on I’ve done it and you can do it some women is possible but for the most part so what does that mean what are you do do you limit God or do you just find someone else to be on the left or right side of you you know what is the big deal so when I think about this math equation how many erotic how many out of the box meaning not really the selective like subjective nuanced little erogenous zones that people get overtime in our lives but the out-of-the-box everybody is wired this way count how many erogenous zones you have and how what is the minimum number of mouse penis and genitals or fingers are human appendages required to simultaneously stimulate all those places it’s more than one person I can tell you that much you know so I just want us to start there and be creative in 2N to learn how to understand that we’re missing out and we should be wanting to gamify maximizing human potential for orgasmic pleasure because that is exorcism orgasm equals exorcism in some cultures who are Les Les Mis Sara Lee poetic about the floury discourse of symbols about sex life like a Latin American Shaman is said about her sexuality in the end in her how she explained why monogamous marriage was not really a thing in a culture that permitted extramarital sex and it was that in her mind and I am not going to say her name to cool her but I will say to paraphrase the essence of this wisdom is that to her mind it was just like an orgasm is like taking out the trash and that is not that’s not to say that it is mundane or a chore it is that it is a responsibility of hygiene in your household of your body Temple you need to have orgasms they need to be fulfilling need to get the job done and that is the exorcism aspect of it so the howling screeching all of these things that are considered that witches were burned forming figli sounds that those are the sounds of actual Holiness the set of holy the sound of Holiness is a woman’s orgasm and so let’s make those come more abundantly and let’s utilize map map the erogenous zones out of the box and then map the additional ones that are my favorite song and when you talk to me like this and this certain place I’m in the back of my head there whatever and then everyone has their own map so we can learn each other’s maps and if you don’t know your own map then you can ask people to help you there’s people who would love to lick and kiss and touch you and head to toe to find and explore you and and from a breasted state of consciousness D nice and yes I like to will you bring out the best in me that’s all I think that’s all you guys add that I can’t top that is the way to end so then really that was we didn’t even know that we put the icing on the motherfuking cake by saying you bring out the Best in Me so there was a documentary about at the peak of my desire to become a a rock star in the the crust Punk metal genre grindcore all that fun stuff I was studying that I wanted to understand and clock the music industry so I was watching every documentary I could find understanding music marketing and all the stuff and then I found this great documentary about about Jimi Hendrix and and I believe it was his fiance at a time who later became his wife if I remember correctly and she was talking about the time where he was building momentum and getting lots of gigs but still underground and she said something that stuck with me forever and if this moment which is it basically the hidden tension was used turn Express yeah we we all knew he was going to get sign or we all knew that you was going to take off he was going to blow up and so she said it was just about if someone puts put the icing on the motherfuking cake you know and I know and I felt that we we’re ready for that and we did some we had some we had some ice and get put on a motherfuking cake we did you get you always want more but I look back and I don’t think we could handle more so we got what we got and now I’m on a different I have a different cake I have a different cake mix and I don’t know if it’s that time I don’t know if it’s time to put the icing on the cake or not yeah I don’t know I mean the cake it’s getting cold she heard it mean if you’d if anyone has icing out there can it please be stevia-sweetened go Steven Johnson I don’t know how to hack them will work on that today I know it’s actually what I heard is that it’s a weird additive that they used to cut it because it’s so super sweet that you would basically died of sweetness if you didn’t like the step on it with some other things so I think that’s why I love growing Stevia and having a leaf to munch on and put in the tea because then you know is nothing else being put into it and it’s just as powerful you don’t really need to if you had the the live leaves one leaf enough will be enough to knock your head off for an hour so yeah I know on that snow yeah we’re going to put this devious fresh leave puree motherfuking icing on the cake I will put the icing on my own motherfuking cake that reminds me in 1 minute I just when I thought we couldn’t go out with a bigger bang this is going to be at because there was a a ritual ceremonial I called we called apart emoni where was the Psychedelic birthday party and we smeared cake all over each other and had to basically devour for the birthday gal of her own cake and it was just nipples and asses and I wanted to be in after from there I was my breasts Elsa. Playing for sure that brother and brother best me for sure but that when I got to put the icing on cake my damn self so don’t let anyone fucking tell you that you’re not none of me if you feel like it I mean I think we’re done I just can’t I’m going to fucking drop my phone right now when I might drop my phone on the couch citizen of the count but oh shit it’s next level add icy Cipher geise that’s going to have some cake with that icing okay thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Queer Poly Group Eco Sex Magic Ritual Design with Reverend Teri Ciacchi MSW TPP150

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In this episode I’m blessed to be joined by Revered Teri Ciacchi MSW a leader in the eco-sexuality and sacred sexual healing movements. Teri takes us on an adventure through a colorful playful personal narrative that weaves together a beautiful tapestry of initiations and revelations. Teri’s deep, rich, and diverse array of offerings are a great pleasure to explore and I have to say that Teri’s work in the area of facilitating safer/sacred group sexual healing ritual with best practices in mind is the most comprehensive and thorough I’ve yet discovered, I salute and bow down to Teri’s great works. To learn more about the Aphrodite Temple, please listen to this extremely empowering and invigorating podcast:

http://sextalkradionetwork.com/2013/10/16/living-love-revolution-aphrodite-temple/

About Teri:

Reverend Teri D. Ciacchi, MSW  Ecosex Celebrating Lover Earth, an event being held on Orcas Island Summer Solstice 2018 is taking up most of the Reverend’s time right now. Being Teri includes being the relational matrix of the Living Love Revolution, being a holistic sex educator, a Priestess of Aphrodite, a leader of the EcoSexuality movement, and an EcoMagicks practitioner. We have been generating CascadiaHolistic Peer Counseling system since 1997, holding Aphrodite Temples since 2000 and co-created Surrender:The EcoSex Convergence from 2013-2017. In July 2017 she started Interdependence and Autonomy LLC, a for profit business that builds consent culture by healing conflict through education and legal advocacy, creating consent-centric events. Reverend Ciacchi looks to Nature for guidance and wisdom. She translates the teachings she receives from mycelium (mushrooms), bees and stardust into useable social skills for human beings. They lead collaborative workshops and events that honor the innate connections between humans and the Living Earth. Recent publications include essays in the books: Ecosexuality: When Nature Inspires the Arts of Love  and Queer Magic. You can find her works at the following websites:www.LivingLoveRevolution.org www.ianda.space   www.AphroditeTemple.com  and  www.ecosexorcasisland.org.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 150 I am being joined by Reverend Terry Diane we is a matrix of the living Love Revolution and the Eco 6 movement in Cascadia also the hierophant of the Aphrodite Temple and we will be unpacking all of those lovely titles momentarily I just want to give a personal introduction I got to meet Terry several years ago at a lovely kind of green tantric Magic Ritual where we made these blessed seed balls and really mixing the spirit and the technology of permaculture with the spirit technology of timeshare which is what this show is absolutely all about so obviously I was thrilled to meet back then and then over since I move back to LA that was in Portland I have been prompted by one of my dear friends to reconnect and invite Terry to be on the show and in that process I discovered what I think is one of the most important and vital fundamental groundwork laying interviews to talking about the perils and the promise and the the glory and the the horse really if I’m trying to organize successful well vetted Sexual Healing rituals that are I say very well curate did not overly hierarchical or cultish you know Sex Magic healing ritual groups and just the Practical nuts and bolts if you’ve ever wanted to understand you know best practices for that kind of stuff which is you know what I am really guided to to assemble this like best practices medically spiritually sexually politically all of these economically all these factors come into play so someone is really got a lot of experience with that and we’ll get into that later is Terry so I’m so thrilled to just be able to In This Moment I’ve really been praying for this for for quite a while so I’m really thrilled and with all those things said Terry please share with us your personal background your story will also get into the Eco sex movement and the and the the other good stuff first of all let me just start by saying that it’s an honor to be interviewed and to speak to someone who clearly understands the breadth of what I’m doing and I was really moved by your sharing your personal history of recovering from your childhood most of us don’t most of us do not have a chance to actually fully heal or I mean most people in what I call the feeling we were cultural deconstruct at the minute we never get to fully self we don’t I have a whole theory about sexual self development you know people talk a lot about psychological development but because our culture is so fearful and so specifically body phobic sex phobic we don’t really have very much opportunity to unwind the deeply traumatised the sexual initiation experiences most of its have had and you know we know just some statistics in social work and psychology that the majority of adults have deep unhealed traumas around sexuality but for me myself knowing that both that sex is a sacred thing and that that it is opportunity there are not many many many opportunities to explore Bliss and ecstasy in these physical bodies and I think that we have an obligation just because we’re born and we have these bodies to come to a place and create social experiences where that Bliss and see can unravel its potential and fully bloom in our lives and so I I feel personally charged by the goddess Aphrodite and by Guy other and the beauty of the Planet of the natural world to insist that I create spaces and places and opportunities for people to actually have sexual sovereignty and actually enjoy their bodies as fully as they can during the span of this short mortal coil you know so it’s wonderful to be able to speak to somebody that I believe has a capacity to understand what it is that I’m doing our culture is so I should say our country but were born into is so toxic that it’s a miracle that any of us ever find each other or have the opportunity to be in a loving kind peaceful consent Pacific space together and so that’s all just to say again that I’m honored to have stopped to speak to you and to speak to your community so thank you very welcome thank you so I’m going to be just the first two paragraphs from my essay golden waves and Priestess bodies establishing a queer Centric poly normative Aphrodite cultist in Cascadia and a lot of the language and addresses in here I’ve had to invent a lot of language I mean why do I say queer Center in poly normative because there aren’t words that I could just say one word and you would get what that means right away right it’s only because we’re living in a really impressive culture that we have to invent new words for our experiences because our experiences are outside the cultural norm so very important acts of magic that I learned from reading books by Bell hook Bell hooks is to from margin to Center and specifically records in her book from margin to Center is to put our own experiences in the center of our worlds and to speak from that Center as if it’s totally fine for clear poly animist witchy people to exist and to be generating their own culture you understand yes so the culture we were born into and grew up with in USA neoliberal capitalist racist sexist hegemonic oligarchic culture can be referred to as be fading Uber culture this feeding agriculture is not for me and resisting The Fading agriculture is exhausting and does not provide enough pleasure as pleasure activists we want to focus on creating more of what we desire which is an intimate community of gender varied friends and lovers who are magical practitioners focused on creating new ways of being loving humans insect we find ourselves at war or odds with the culture we were born into because that culture does not have a place for us over culture does not even have words that we would choose to describe or accurately convey our own internal experiences of divinity love and sex and so we must invent new words we must use different pronouns in search of ourselves and our culture we have gone through a series of the comings and ongoing unfolding of self that have inspired us to invent and send her our own understandings language and definitions of what the central mysteries of divinity love and sex are and can be the use of the pronoun we throughout this essay in my speaking is an intentional and admittedly unique usage the intention is to express my internal experience of being a collective of beings a Multiverse of personas an individual embedded in an ecologically web of relatedness it is impossible for me to separate myself and that’s in quotes from a complex interweaving and histories of one the sex positive and queer ancestors of choice to biological blood ancestors of DNA Family Heritage three the internal environment of my body that include biotta neural networks and assimilation of animals and plants is food for the fluidity of ideas conversation and activities shared within and between the many people in my community S5 the fluids and bodies I exchanged when being sexual with others and six the lived environment of my physical existence taken in by my body sensory precepts it is also incredibly important for me as an ecosexual animist to approach the non-human persons around me as an integral part of myself so while the use of the pronoun we for self-reference is Clumsy it is also for me the most truthful and authentic so that’s just kind of an introduction of why would use we which is plural as a pronoun and this essay which I’m not good anymore of for you is from a book called queer magic power beyond boundaries it was edited by Lee Harrington anti Phoenix police tend to amazing powerful gender Blended beings who I admire very much and I’m grateful to know and be close to we get another I have so much privilege and Grace in my life that all of these amazing magical beings are connected to me and my silly don’t matter what I call the mycelium at the rise Ematic polycule set we all send our lives around tie is a person what is a personal assistant genius incredible human being who knows a lot about alchemy and who went through my Aphrodite Temple Priestess system and evolved in Hyde off and got a new shade in and became hierophant and they do something called T which is a temple of erotic Alchemy and it’s such a thrill to be able to Mentor people into their own power and then get to stand next to that I work with them hopefully for the rest of my life there are amazing and I just wanted to not do that do you not think it is awesome please continue another person that I work closely with is Christian Thomas and her website I think it’s called the rewilding still but she’s about to debut an amazing project called the one woman podcast where she has put together a series of wonderful intimate Dynamic powerful stories and what she did was use the quote from Muriel rukeyser from a poem that was in part of second-wave feminism in the early 80s where they quote what would happen if what if one woman spoke the truth about her life the world would split open and then she interviewed me and a lot of other women and said what would you if you could make one sentence out of the truth of your life what would it be and I said my trees right now is that we are the midwives of the new aeon and this time of transformation it is our time and so she put that sentence as the opening background music for the opening of her podcast and that’s coming out on Mother’s day which is wonderful also look for that because I think it’s not only just inspiring the same power a lot of people I’m saying all that because I believe it is true that I’m a midwife or the new am I think that were in a spectacular time in which for me the word apocalypse means the removing of the veil I think that the current presidency is a very clear example of a an increasingly Stark division between classes and increasingly star division between people who want to drag us back words to try to preserve their culture which is dying which is again I call the fatty liver culture and those of us who have been intent our entire lives on creating new worlds focused on love consent in peace an S at you know we’re here in this beautiful setting on Orcas Island were at the place where we’re going to be having an event called ecosex celebrating leather Earth which is June 20th through 24th and part of the way that I worked is at wherever the new venue for my work is which I arrived at through magical practice and meditation and speaking with my gods and ancestors whatever that place is that I get the calling to go I go into velop a relationship with the land and with the venue house and with the land comes information about beings that died there with the land comes connections from my own ancestry here on Orcas Island there obviously were Native indigenous peoples the Lummi people specifically lived here for a long time and we’re driven out in the 1890s pushed to Lummi Island they were before that in their own small Tribal wars with the macaw who live in the North and then there was a whole huge Colonial division between the French and the British and the American as they continue to colonize this place there was a lime mine here that was used to build bricks and he thinks and they cut down the forests in 1896 so I’m on this piece of land that has amazing immense trees that have been growing here since they clear-cut it in 1896 there are several cedar trees that must be older than that because they’re towering but they have snagged three of them have snags at the top and that’s why they’re still here and one of them has a 13-foot black cleft down the middle of the trunk and so we’ve decided that’s the lowest I will bring the Altar and one of those wonderful features of my event which prior to this year was called surrender the ecosex convergence and which I held an intentional Community with Lindsay Hageman when she live there she stopped living there and we have to find a new venue but in those times so from 2013 until last year 2017 we have a part of the venue space marked off and we call it lillis Forest and we call it that because what we’re doing is creating a temporary autonomous Zone and we’re making a Sacred Space for people to have consensual sex Magik experiences in the woods they can be auto-erotic self-pleasuring or they can be negotiated consensually created co-created group or dyadic experiences whatever people want and in order to make it safe to do that we talk about consent all the time are very specific definition of consent is on the website when you register you have to read it and say that you’ve read it we have a 90-minute embodied consent training as part of it that’s mandatory everyone has to attended they get a wristband and I ended up learning how to create an entire culture where people could be strangers when they arrive at the festival but by Thursday night the festival goes from Wednesday to Sunday to buy Thursday night everyone is resonant with the definition of consent and how to embody it I did all of this because as a deeply Pagan person I decided I was from a point point of rebellion at the age of 18 never going to worship a male God because of the oppression that I experienced as a young female child and the early date rape experience and things like that I didn’t trust male body people enough to want to worship them as or defy them at all so from a point of rebellion I went to a private women’s school called Stephens College in Columbia Missouri and they had a library in one of the first things I did when I got there was go to the union section and found this book about inanna The Descent you’re not a way of initiation for women by Sylvia prior Brenton and I read that book and realize that it was possible that there were female deities position of rebellion at first I was like what I’m going to worship goddesses then it was a conceptual thing for me in the beginning and then I went through a thing where Alders archetypes this is a psychological thing and then As I Grew in 9:55 I’ll be 56 is here somewhere between 18 and 30 I had enough actual experiences with ritual and invoking deities and you know I met somebody in 1980 Melanie Henry who told me I’m a witch and gave me the copy of star hot to spiral dance with every year at that point and we started doing rituals together and getting our friends together and going out in the woods and calling ourselves which is again mostly out of rebellion but then the gods kind of found us we didn’t ritual that we started to have these amazing surreal and extraordinary experiences that we could not explain so I went through all these different Transformations but by the time I was leading an organization called called changes and doing public full moon rituals in parks and being a leader in the Pagan and Wiccan humidity at also got many many different kinds of initiation and the first degree that I got in college back then but I was 20 I got a degree from Siemens College in interdisciplinary ecology or human ecology I believe that now will be called something like whole system’s design right or something like one of the scholars and not feel right yeah I said that as well right grateful that made it possible for me to have a very deep understanding of ecology and that has been essential Paradigm in my life since my lovely private school that was a very excellent educational experience I had classes with like 11 people where we studied existentialism or Gandhi and non-violence we set it intentional communities we had a house called the beta house where we solarized create a greenhouse sunken hot tub in it made a zen garden learned to think about alternative energies and this was in from 1982-1983 I got a degree in 3 years and then I went back to school and got a master’s degree in psychiatric social work in Social Work Administration so I also worked with a very unwell chronically mentally ill believe in that now we’re going to talk about neurodivergent so you know where to find a new language all the time that seems more accurate Bunny Case by the timer 28 hours managing a group home I was the executive director of a group home for adults with chronic mental illness and I got married and moved to Eugene Oregon but all of these things were all about me having wonder and Delight in the world deeply loving human beings and knowing that the way that I was brought up and the things that have happened to me we’re not healthy and well and I wanted to understand psychology to figure out how do we get to this loving culture that I want and I’m again very aware of my own privilege and Power but I get to spend a lot of my time and Christian has called me a thot Vision I spend a lot of my time thinking about how could we have a new culture that would Center Lovington sense right so the living Love Revolution is the name of the cultural experiment that I’m in charge of I say that I’m in charge with I made it up and we all get to make up the meaning of our lives and we all get to and we will weather doing it consciously or not we are responsible for assigning the meaning of the things that have happened to us right so a good short example of that is at ecosex celebrating lover Earth the solstice event that we’re doing here on this beautiful land that I look at wish you could see the trees here there towering the sky is blue a bald eagle is flying overhead right now not making it up there’s a gorgeous Aphrodite statue that I get to the land next to a very ancient beautifully sinuous madrone tree the green and brown of its bark enticing it’s gorgeous here so one of the things that really do here is people have password so the events five day long and on Thursday Friday and Saturday for 2 hours everyone has chosen when they come to the registration Booth they got a necklace that goes with the small little tribal experience of password and I create relationships all year round and have people submit proposals for path working this year for the first time at midnight and the deadline is January 15th I have 15 workshops and seven of the eight password submitted on time so that’s how I know that this movement is growing and it’s going well and the first password submitted to me a woman named V Carhart and another woman named Michele rain are going to be leaving something called sexual initiation reframing trauma as a magical Act and the people that are on that package path I have about 20 people on it will get a chance to talk about their early sexual trauma histories and do an initiation Rite to reframe themselves as magical people so more than being a survivor of a trauma they’re going to Grapple with it they’re going to sit in the trouble together and tell their stories and listen to their stories and write to empower themselves to see themselves as amazing magicians and divinity’s in the center of their experience and they’re going to make up a positive sealing hole eyes not without grease but definitely without shame conclusion to that story for themselves doesn’t that sound cool those sounds great just so you know what side note is it’s really I feel like the the Redemptive quality in that kind of really the Alchemy of that traumas is to say to you about it myself which was it at those with the most empowering way I could make sense of the horror flick acts that were perpetrated on me and that on so many others is just to say some of us Souls did what they do in war when when you know the person with the most loving her heart sits on a grenade for the platoon and takes all the shrapnel so that it’s but then reveals if it were also reviewing the issue and if we if we can survive and thrive then we can bring it to the light and we can actually get to solve this issue and I kind of feel like we become like karmic sponges or something you know the process play more about the crime expunged what do you mean by that phrase so I can understand it’s a beautiful chamonix mushroom Shaman name Sean at home and you know she has her communion with the spirits of the Northwest nature spirits and we were one of the things that she heard and one of her Journeys was just that this disorder discourse of Ascension and in being lightworkers and there’s a lot of kind of highfalutin aggrandizement around some of the stuff and and that she was kind of put put in her place in a way by saying just clean up your reality you know it’s you got it we have to take the responsibility and have that if that’s the case then some of us who have been you know how to put on his Crucible we’ve we’ve had to become sort of like karmic sponges and we’re scrubbing off these scraping off these Barnacles off of the world-soul you know that the parasitic and don’t belong here so the more I mean if I can just swallow up like a giant whale just all of this Gunk and just get it stuck in my teeth and take it with me to the behind him clean his place and so yeah I get it thank you for explaining that cuz I was a little confusing I’ve also again had the great privilege of working with Daniel for have you heard of him no it’s a new name to me it’s really hilarious because he is actually from North Ridgeville Ohio which is where I grew up and I before meeting Dental really there wasn’t anybody outside of my family of origin that I would care to spend time with him or fertile because I I kind of feel like I escaped from there when I was 17 to go to college no and I worked very hard to come back into a relationship of love with the Lambs there in North Ridgeville and a big part of what’s me that possible is that I worked through a series of synchronicities I met General 4 and he has a system called ancestral medicine where those of us who if maybe bad weird and mysterious psychic things happen most of our Lives again I think there’s a connection between having survived a buttload of trauma and the hyper-vigilance that is set up in our nervous systems where we you know what does not want us to experience more trauma so we’re hyper-vigilant right and we were potentially things that are really going to be tragic but we anticipated we try to have foresight about avoiding it and all of that makes us take in a lot more sensory information and be more sensitive to proceeding it rape said it’s a lonely day I’ve always been super alert mainly because I’m so committed to nonviolence I don’t want to perpetuate the traumatic things that were done to me right I don’t know the unpurposed I really really want could be loving and kind to any small younger being so out of my commitment to not to participate in the city lubricant show as little as possible right I met Daniel and heard about descent system which is the idea that we all have bright and well ancestors and that especially those of us that have white skin privilege is that makes sense that translate that phrase and who are of northern European descent whose ancestors slaughtered and destroyed the indigenous cultures that were here on this continent before they arrived that we actually a month my friends we talked about it in the shorthand term called way to go right size a fading agriculture for the culture that’s happening and let it go is a place that I didn’t invent Paul’s last name as a book called where to go it’s basically saying that the defendant over culture itself is a virus and that people that are unconsciously Dominator haven’t deconstructed their privilege around race and class that their behavior is destroying the planet right and that all of us that have white privilege and all of us of European ancestry need to clean up our own bloodline so this is me referring back to your psychic sponge, so I have come to believe that is my responsibility to heal the Hungry Ghost in my own blood lines do that I have to know my own history my own DNA where did my people come from what God did they worship What lands did they inhabit and most of us don’t really have any related this to that so by taking a 9-month ancestral medicine training with Daniel and then being supervised by him now so that I can be a practitioner of his system I’ve had to do the prison work of looking up my DNA I took a DNA blood test and found out where everything I could about that I found out I have Eastern European Jewish roots and I didn’t know about I found out that I have more than African blood that I didn’t know about I found out that has Saudi Arabian blood didn’t know about which makes sense cuz my dark skinned Italian father who had a lot of trouble with racism growing up in the 50s and 60s right that was an impact there was a lot of race and religious intolerance in my family board and growing up with a big division me to my father’s Italian Catholic background and my grandmother’s and my mother a Protestant White English and Irish and French background in the process of working with Daniel identified the bright and well dead people in my bloodline and now I have an ancestor altar I talk to them daily I pray to them daily and I’ve used the connection with those bright and well ancestors to clean up the hungry ghosts in all four of my primary Bloodlines and in the process of doing that I carry them with me and their integrated with me and I really feel strongly as most of those of us who study with Daniel to that it is our job to clean up our own Bloodlines first and to not do that is a spiritual bypass right so I can’t walk around and tell and be judgy about other people and their shit unless I’ve cleaned up my own first this will that make sense to you yeah that’s a great that’s a great point and if I if I could I’d like to ask you if we could get into the house that this path is it says express through the effort. E Temple specifically that that Retreat that I was hearing about where that that seems like that’s all people are coming together to get those hard-to-reach spots you know so the living Love Revolution has like a whole system you have personal what I call Zone zero the inside of your head work Zone one would be like the two of us talking to each other is a Zone 1 Zone 2 saga plaid permaculture write down for would be different cultures merging and clashing and cross-pollinating zone 5 would be the guy at the body itself the whole planet and I have created remediation systems for all of those zones and you can read about that on the Eco sex Orcas Island. Org website there’s a page that discusses the zone so that we could talk about in a holistic way down zero and someone I teach Cascadia holistic peer counseling the peer counseling system that prepares people to learn how to clean up his own Zero by getting loving witnessing attention from other people and treating even though you know some of us still need to go to trained therapist psychiatrist that’s important limited. But our lives would be so much easier if we all have your belly say hey I’m upset can I get a mini and some would just stop and for 10 minutes give you their full loving attention and you could clear the emotional distress her in and then go back to whatever consensually agree upon activity or in the middle of before you have the most mobs that gives this is so important and I feel like a lot of people in the eye mean I just don’t want to call the self-help movement I want to call it Mutual Cooperative no one is alone at me you know what’s better than cleaning up our toxic Gunk so we can attend to the Ecstasy and pleasure of being a body was designed for the bus is it seems like yeah you can take care of it after hours after you clock out and then you know if you can feel really happy about things up in the morning when you have to be there small groups we want to have deep resources because we are pleasure activist we want all of our relationship at whatever level to be loving and satisfying and pleasurable so I had to invent something called the Aphrodite Temple because you know I taught for 12 years at the Center for Sex positive culture short names that wet spot by those of us that taught there and hung out and made it happen. I think last year or the year before it was in Seattle that whole time and a great privilege again of being around only Natchitoches but executive director a lot and I’ve learned so much from her and she encouraged me to teach there but I wanted to do things that were about sacred sexuality and mostly it was BDSM Kink which is not I’m not disparaging that at all I needed a Social container for me to work out my trauma and to work out different positions of power and to role-play all kinds of different things and in the process of teaching and socializing at the Center for Sex positive culture for a decade really I learned all kind of by that method well my thing I really like is sacred sexuality I like to have sex while there’s an altar with Siri that can vote and I started to understand that for me my primary relationship before using polyamory language was with the deity Aphrodite and that I didn’t want to have sexual interactions with other people that interrupted the flow of deep love and devotion the kind of bhakti practice that I had with that goddess I didn’t want any of my other relationships with humans to interrupt that flow inside a figure out a way to do that and in the process bring out a way to do that and not wanting to get into heteronormative dyads because no matter how many times and how much work and effort how much therapy I got and how much talking we did that dyadic pairing always had a power-up and power-down position and it was too painful for me to continue it interrupted the flow of my relationship with Aphrodite cuz all that translate because every time I get close to being intimate anyone I have to explain to them there’s more than meets the eye going on here of cultivating a connection with no some DVD that you would have to have informed consent to encountering and I don’t want to have you be freaked out so you got to study that I am a what-do-you-call-it and it’s I’m a package deal with the device some of you and have you understand that piece from my personal spiritual Devotion to the goddess Aphrodite that I ended up creating entire system that I now call a therapeutic education and ecstatic education weekend so after desirable education and it really was out of my frustration and trying to translate what I was doing just individual I just wanted Playmate I just want to peers I just want to have an awesome mother love and time for cheers and I think about all of this text to sort of millennial Tech culture and co-working spaces it sounds like you’re great at you were creating cold Living Spaces the way we were working spaces now got it that’s right and that’s why I say queer Centric and poly normative because I’m saying for the. Of time that this weekend is an Aphrodite Temple weekend starts at 1 on one day and ends at 1 two days later right to from 1 on Friday or the next Temple that we’re having is May 26th to 28th so over Memorial Day weekend it’s in Portland we charge 352 $500 sliding scale for it you can read about it Aphrodite temple.com and the essay that I was reading from from queer magic is the first time I’ve ever tried to actually articulate what I’m doing which was really a weird feeling I kind of felt like I was showing people my genitals it was like the most awkward I’m shy all my friends are like how come you’re not writing about the second thing because it’s private it’s like my biggest Joy and I’m at some level Terror terrified that if people really find out what I’m doing the come and kill me right because the cultures so but because they put up this book and they’re my good friends and there’s like we really want you as a woman magician whose you know we love your work. Please write about it and it took me almost nine months to write this essay start someone on Friday usually the same will be Saturday in Atlanta Monday and the first day and a half of it is are all exercises to make sure that were actually in our bodies as present as we can be and not disassociated that we’re moving away from being performative insects because most sex for most adults is a Performance Based on their programming they received for what it means to be a man or what it means to be a woman or what it means to choose not to be either and we’re still super focused on the impact of the performance and what we’re trying to do is move you from that place of performance to being a space that’s an intact field of sensory information and aesthetic Delight where you know that you are part of a we Consciousness that is singing with bliss and ecstasy we want to move people into their experience in their body and away from their concept of what sex is it’s the berry Big magical trick and we have to create a temporary autonomous Zone which is a word that Hakim Bey came up with are you familiar with that word yes very much very poetic terrorism full of therapy sensory information and Sex Magic where you get to be with usually between 20 and 30 people max out the most we’ve ever had in temples 33 and that was a little clunky and on Saturday night there’s a cone of powers with a spell it’s an act of magic and we get into groups of five each person gets 20 to 40 minutes depending on how the time how it’s gone to articulate what they want and then receive it from for other people we do it it’s designed really carefully as a culture Jam against heteronormativity a culture gym against sexual oppression or capitulation or coercion and it’s ecstatic and its Democratic and its egalitarian and sometimes people say what I really want with my body is asking for right now is to be crabs like a little baby and have lullaby sung to me and have my hair petted and sometimes people say I need all four of my orifices dramatically and then thoroughly stimulate is simultaneously and I needed from all of you right now and there’s absolutely no judgment about what people request and it’s our honor and our sacred duty to deliver what is requested of us and so the the Priestess training system that I have I say is training in becoming a transpersonal resource of love and lust and desire for your community what the work is does that make sense all that and orgasmic Gardener is a happy Gardener we have been holding for Aphrodite Temple a year since about 2009 and we have a priestess body right now that’s composed of 13 people and like ecosex celebrating Mother Earth I’m the Matrix the architect of the social permaculture design of these activities well I just want to take that input if that’s so beautiful just that has the potential of making permaculture sexy is that sexy my friend it is right and it’s it’s missing that piece the 9th form of capital it’s a sexual capital of sexual energy flow I mean I really hope I realize I fantasize about a nude PDC actually informed is another book that will come out before the end of this year called sex positive now Co edited by Alina kibosh and I forgotten the man that she’s doing with so I forgive forgive me Alina but he’s I believe Australian and I have an essay and they’re called from Roots to shoots the sex positive origins of ecosexuality movement in which an articulating all the queers through the blue laws of armed services that deposited large numbers of queer people in New York and Chicago and San Francisco by when they kick them of the military and again when I go back home how that turned into gay leather culture and gay leather bar culture how that turned into the radical faeries contingencies the dike separatist lesbian things up eco-feminist women artists like on a man Giada and Mary Beth Edelson we’re doing things in the seventies and eighties the Guerrilla girls how that all moved through a cup how it turned into queer performance art how that queer prefer was something that Annie Sprinkle and Beth Stevens found United partnership in and how their ecosexual weddings and their early artlab performances of getting married before it was legal to be married as a clear of them doing this public works of art and that performance turn into the Eco sexuality movement and how I’m a part of that movement cuz all of that so well this is the kind of stuff I want to be having campfire smores ecosex Orcas Island. Org is the website with these awesome stickers if you send me your snap name and I’ll send you a packet of fun stuff yes animist right you know you hit the trees and the birds and the bees and the mycelium and the Stardust that those things are also is. As we are at those things have a right to exist as we do and that we should be learning from these nuts on human natural beings that designs for a culture that we should be building culture more like a beehive or like a mycelial mat or like a cluster of stars then like the idea is that the same Uber culture turned out and sells to us. It’s our honor and our responsibility to listen deeply to our own songs to the land to the nonhuman beings and live in concert in Harmony and peace and loving consensual relationship with those beings and that now is the time for us to turn those of us who would like to turn this culture and move with quickness with alacrity through this tiny little portal that’s open right now to get through to these other dimensions and change the nature of the universe the nature of our experience in these body I don’t know how long the portal will be open I know that is open now and everything in me is sounding a call to find the other beings who want to do this work to press forward and make it happen beautiful beautiful that was a great rabble rousing speech and yeah I feel like we’ve this is a cat feels like we’re in some time or Bermuda Triangle or something because I feel like we’ve only been talking for 5 minutes and time is just flying and I feel like I definitely want to I feel like this is a great foundation for you as a guest and I want to unpack and going to so many of these Dimensions that you played out as we have as you have time in the future if I could ask Chicana just there’s a few points that I would like to to address with you from the interview and I don’t have golf dig up the link and maybe you have it off the top of your head but there was an episode of a podcast where you were interviewed specifically all about kind of inter workings of the Aphrodite Temple experience yet . org which is my website there are links to most of my podcast there also there’s a website called Aphrodite temple.com that podcast is embedded on the website there if you forget you can write to me at ecos x 22 at gmail.com and I’ll send it to you personally it is having all of my media cuz I’d like to because I’m mostly busy in the world if your not generating more media than you’re consuming you’re in trouble and I right yeah I understand questions you want to ask me I’ll try to slow down and thank you so much you have wasted this is just been a spellbinding literally spellbinding roller coaster ride of just getting a bit Taste of everything has been an absolute drill and I appreciate it I know this is exactly the rabbit hole this is it this is a plural this is a rabbit holes multiples of rabbit holes in this conversation that are all delightful so some of the things I feel like I want with most thrilled about when you express them in and I’m not you know we don’t have to match the Glory of Love Will Find the link to that and people can check it out but there were two specific really empowered empowering and for me very transformative insights that you shared about having this experience in these groups and you’re going to be places so so bravely greatest lie and in one of them was at it was really we’re leaving for me when you talked about how you know you’ve worked with you you’ve gone deep with with the lifelong meditators who say that you’ll never conquer your you know anxiety disorder you just need to literally find a way to have some peace about it and go put your life and we can help each other with coping with these things but don’t put this Purity like this is an Empire realm and we’re going to swap fluids or going to swap Karma’s and all these things going to happen the best we can do centrally is to just be be honest about it and surrender and share and healing in Penn Valley now I’m kind of paraphrasing but you don’t scare me as a Survivor I’ll just say that you know this is what we’re still using that terminology it’s at, I feel contaminated and I feel it sometimes contagious and I feel like there’s a new Psalm Isadora who is it you know very well respected very very well-established casualty of the war against these parasitic entities I would say you know sheet she was quoted saying that she never wanted to talk about what she had been through you know that for a long time because in her words who would love me and to me that’s the biggest the tragedy of how these things fuck with your mind is it is if they would tips if you can find a way to love yourself and be loved and to share love then you can win but if you were if you were you feel so in pure that you that you don’t want to touch anybody or be touched or be opened up then they win yeah and then you die in the next life so can be a solace if you will is realizing that we actually live in a non-dual Multiverse and any kind of concept that splits the world into then becomes problematic so because the fading agriculture is dominated by dualistic religions it’s easy to fall into the spell of Duality where things are sinful or good as if anything could be that simplistic it’s actually not the truth is not the truth of her experience and I’m again great privilege and blessing to work with Reginald Ray and do a month-long. TuneIn 2011 to 2012 and sit and doing many many hours of what he cheats a practice where he tells us through experience and leads us through the experienced that the body is living in a non dual experienced the body doesn’t have an understanding of sin it is the mind that assigns the idea of impurity at all it is the mind and its judgments and It’s Tricky fucking fading Uber culture enforced programming that would ever have the idea that the body was in Pure or damaged or diseased or sinful or tragically you know broken it’s not true just from a science perspective that I can talk to you through this media that were communicating that our souls are touching and we understand each other is a freaking miracle that the body is functioning with all this biotta and nervous systems and it’s a freaking Miracle the body existing is a miracle and there’s not anything ugly or computer or dirty those are all thought forms from fragile human understanding from The Limited confined space of a dualistic imposed concept that is not the truth about our bodies that’s not the truth about our actual experience we are vast and immense we are at this moment full of Dark Matter Where our ancestors and the gods lie that is the truth about my experience and I offer it as an opportunity for an alternative Paradigm that could be Liberatore and cause you to see your own magnificence and experience your own eminence and the power of Aphrodite is the ability to experience yourself as God and deity and understand that you’re holy and to perceive that Golden Light of eminence in other beings and that’s our work to live in that space and a generator culture that honors that space and they give us that experience of bliss and ecstasy that is our Birthright yeah I’m going to have it at Francis Senior Life and adding more logs to the fire you know in the right way that’s going to increase the temperature for disinfecting the unhygienic parts you know that that we need help with and it just burn it off thank you yeah we’re totally deep vows for all the stuff that you’re working out and it’s been a huge inspiration I feel like it’s a prerequisite for anybody to come anywhere near my body Temple to have this level of discourse about stuff so there’s another factor that you brought up and it will just the units will be the last thing I want to I want to touch on for an hour from you know what what I was so moved by but another another very functional very practical protocol procedure you know for say that you had in place was a very just a very succinct precise bit of wisdom around with the way you language how it’s in a while probably do you know how was going to paraphrase it to the best my memory but if it’s that a man in my from my memory to my words it’s it’s really that there is this what the truth that you’re expressing was it there is a pretty much inevitable inevitability of a wonky kind of power Dynamic of either either in it if you’re only having died attic you know want to people in a couple’s private sexual encounter you really not seeing each other’s blind spots and there’s a tendency to either to either be transgressed upon or to transgress upon another and if you don’t have the referee or witness or third-party to observe the Dynamics from a high level of skill and and consent training then pretty much you’re always setting yourself up to in some way violate consent or ground beef traumatized and so even if it’s not this sloppy it’s really not about it being a sloppy orgy where people aren’t paying attention it’s about having at least one person be very Vigilant present and facilitate and move energy and to make sounds of and that’s what was work for me and what I would kind of add to it unless you’re sure that’s what’s happening for you you just started liking train to a collective hive mind of a fueling together but it does indict that heteronormative dyadic sort of Paradigm that is just a nuclear family curse and I always looking for new ways to burst that bubble of the Disney World going to Disneyland for you to share that in your own words if they if your if I’m if you remember what I’m referring to and I know what you’re talking about and I think it’s even more clearly articulated I’ll read the last paragraph of the essay that I started with and it has a great concise capitulation of what you’re referring to okay if the goal of sex is not to procreate then we are liberated from biological imperatives of mating attraction based on biological determinism the hormonal drives and Fairmount releases in our DNA is continual and statement towards intercourse and procreation are no longer the reason is why we are having sex as we move away from gender essentialism binary Notions that can modify men as purely Financial resource providers and women as purely social sexual providers we then expand the opportunities for negotiating sexual in economics sharing and recognizing the multitude of abilities interest possibilities identities and so on that every individual can embody we move steadily away from heterocysts normativity and towards queerness is Duality no longer dominates our understanding of gender there are more than 2 genders they are not them ethically opposed to each other and there is no opposite sex to be at war with instead there an infinite number of gendered displays each one a unique experience each one and ephemeral Epiphany specific to the relational context in which it co arises gender itself is now a liminal State a Mercurial expression that shifts and Glides across the reflective surface of the body’s before us the relational perspectives in context provided for sex and living Love Revolution Aphrodite temples are all about Recreation and community and Ecstasy of auto-erotic autonomy inside our consent-based Taz of democratic sexual loving meritocracy every single celebrant becomes a sacred and holy fractal of divinity we are each of us then a shimmering note in a harmonious CarGurus resounding with her name Aphrodite Bravo perfect beautiful thank you so much I wish I could but I just a round of applause stretching through the galaxies to hear that this is let’s make this planet a beautiful luxury resort for the divine feminine to want to come back here and hang out for being such a halogen open an expansive being am deeply listening to me it feels great. So let’s carry on hopefully after we can follow up and I love to hear some Beautiful recaps of the convergence coming up and I will go further into somebody’s topics and hopefully this will start doing a lot of good and please people listening access the resources that aphrodite Temple. Calm and again if you just want to stop your websites and will call tonight org Aphrodite temple.com and ecosex Orcas Island. 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