In this episode I’m joined again by Vanessa Soulxo for a discussion on the shift from hierarchical to egalitarian spiritual leadership
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My Non Verbatim Notes:
VS: training in Colorado, graduating in may with resilient leadership program, focus on sustainability and social justice, great program, what are we gonna do with this kind of knowledge
interesting experience, expanded so much in ways, politically, climate crisis
download this morning: earth tells us how strong it is by showing us
we can damage, be so cruel with capitalistic ways, but mother earth is resilient
shamanic training, working with plant medicines
tarot reading, spiritual and intellectual, recommended naropa, eastern/western philosophy, perfect for someone who’s a seeker, however a lot of charlatans there
some professors spiritual leaders, major issues with…middle aged white men still stuck in the patriarchy
no longer this hierarchy, all about me, bow down to me and I take all the power, future of leadership, switch from hierarchy to more egalitarian, we’re all equal
taking away guru, bow down to me paradox, scarcity mindset
I have to be willing to accept when I need people who are more powerful than me
age of aquarius, take away old paradox of capitalism and hierarchy, one person on top
abusive treatment from spiritual leaders
Naropa’s in Boulder, spiritual hub, growing business, spiritual businesses, people are capitalizing on it, most of the people are fake, heartbreaking to see cultish behavior, the more followers a person has, the more manipulation
people called out yoga teacher on her healing that needs to happen, she went bezerk
if you’re on a leadership platform of any level, you should be ok to be called out, no body’s perfect
if you say I’m a healer, I’ve healed everything you’re a liar
witness middle aged white professors, spiritual leaders
TP: professors should get paid on a curve, based on votes from students to balance the power
VS: students, pests, total followers, have no sense of self
you don’t throw jabs at students
you’re not coming from a kind place, so shut the fuck up
TP: can draw upon traditions of sadistic initiation and humiliation
the fuckery of Tibetan Buddhist, secret sex cult, academic analysis of distortion of men being in monastic chastity, creepy manipulators, collusion, hexes, spells, death threats
VS: last thing you want to do is be manipulating people by throwing spiritual jabs, because those cuts hurt deeper
plant ceremony circles, cultish mentality, manipulation, shaming everyone that comes there
are you actually doing the work, shows you really have so much work you need to tend to
TP: need to be roasted more often not less often if you have power
enlightenment, be kind and not criticize everything
Deepak Chopra, non-judgment
mind hacks, positive/constructive inner voice redirection
shambala center scandals, male dominated institutionalized sectors, zen buddhism, so male dominated
sexual tension is real, things are going down in an ill way
woman of color, not many at all in the spiritual industry in America, so much of what has arose has come from indigenous cultures even African indigenous cultures, raped, stolen
TP: sages, saints, prophets, messiahs, too much to ask of pantheon of god men, why isn’t there an exalted female voice representing the divine goddess or earthly embodiment
collective messiah, sisterhood witch coven, actually has each other’s backs, hard to find, not about most money, biggest boobs, clearest skin, politics are distorted, only thing I’ve seen work is magic mushrooms, tone down that ego
collective of empowered righteous medicine women, collectively channel a bigger voice
VS: we’re not sustainable, that paradigm is no longer sustainable, not balanced
Egypt: ancients believed when a man achieved a high amount of knowledge spiritual and power, he would be allowed to wear a long haired wig to symbolize that he had reached a certain level of that equal to a woman
behind every successful man is a strong woman holding him up, keeping him balanced, bringing him peace
recognizing each other’s strengths
look at all these buildings, not sustainable
machismo, misogynistic mentality, disrespecting yourself
you’re describing the woman in the house that I’m initiating into
not getting vibe of competitive, ego, money power, real sisterhood, shocked right now
TP: not an economy of male attention, have each other’s back, like links of armor together
VS: there was one guy that they where gonna bring in to initiate into our house, mother of the house started asking for dreams, said she had dreams that were very revealing about him, how he was betraying and backstabbing, the way the sister’s joined it was unbelievable, if anyone messes with any one of us, we’re all gonna have each others back
TP: dream of goddess temple , powerful men, bow down to fem domme’s
VS: that’s what we need, systems are so broken, education, judicial, health, how can we bring in more divine masculine, and divine feminine, lacking, how can we merge spirituality with these systems for greater collective awaking
TP: divine feminine is coming through no matter what, divine masculine, it’s gonna be a struggle, to topple the demonic overlords, if you could push a button to dissolve homophobia, divine masculine would fill hearts of all men on earth
men want to play with witches, gotta give each other coconut oil massage first
VS: amazing people, transgendered, no how to bring in both, balanced, gurus, two spirited, amazing human beings, kind, empathetic, understanding things differently
TP: tantric alchemy, triangle, masculine feminine bottom corners, ascension of kundalini, meet and become one at the top
VS: back in 2017, working at crystal shop in venice, beach, santoria woman comes in calls me out, you’re haitian, already reclaimed you, just haven’t initiated you yet, I was doing my own spiritual thing, predicted I would be working with plants
when joined program, friend invited me to a cacao ceremony, I’m thinking I’m gonna do chocolate, heard it opens heart, makes more loving, there’s a fire pit, middle of night, circle, passing around green powered, why is this green, whatever, dark paste to put on gums, must be cacao, intense vulnerable experience, beautiful
wasn’t cacao, that was coca, in concentrate form, door way led into whole path with medicines, microdosing with magic mushrooms, ayahuasca, universe is smart, had I known it was coca I would have been like no I’m not doing that
TP: decriminalization nature movement, entheogens decriminalized in Santa Cruz,
dance with haitian priestesses, throughout development, haitian shamanic revolution, invocation, deities, ancestors, spiritual revolution, not marx, not communism, party line, indigenous, totally
VS: all this stigma about what voodoo is, that is how they won the revolution in 1804 no other black free nation until 150 years later, cecile fatiman, pig ceremony started the revolution, shamanism, paganism, trance like states
what led me to this path, haitian priestess voodoo initiation, getting into plants, connecting with ayahuasca, beautiful experience for shipibo, saw me, called to that medicine, wanna find who I’m gonna learn from
got back from jungle, grandmother, what are you doing in the jungle taking medicine, pagaism, witchcraft, when that happens, when you’re called its not you, you’d not choose voodoo, voodoo chooses you
TP: you do you and voo doo you
VS: lineage is calling you, ancestors wanted you to leave California to get you some where calm and quiet so they could start tapping in, all these dots started connecting
researching portals, deities, very powerful, not spirits you want to take lightly, have a lot of sincerity, they can get upset if you disrespect them, I’m learning a lot
mother of house did a reading, can’t just pay to be a high priestess, spirit needs to confirm initiation, its not for everybody
born into hatiain lineage
grew up with mallato family, strong french presence, history of haiti, didn’t allow voodoo, combinations of saints because they were not allowed, raised catholic, all about white is right, american dream
had to come to truth with myself, with my soul, intense level I’m being called
TP: mixed healing arts
VS: I’m a make up of 3 races, I feel equally connected to plant medicines, and bringing in hatiain high priestess patheon, making it my own modernized way, very empowering, I go march 10th, I’ll be back the 24th, that initian is pretty intense, you’re told mysteries, I don’t even know what I’m getting into
Bufo toad, 5me0 dmt, more powerful than ayahuasca, really excited
TP: you’re feeding your fire with the antics of the patriarchs, so shallow, so obvious, paradox of ego, just the desire to destroy ego is a from the ego
VS: constantly check myself, not doing it primarily for me, doing it for others service, finding that balance, last thing I want to do is be a slave to my calling, constant checking am I happy, will this make me happy, wanna be happy getting up everyday doing the work, take some of the me out
TP be frugal, live simply, if majority of net worth being directed towards healing, transformation, liberation, you’ll continually get resupplied, just like a garden
VS: plan, determined to have a church, self love center, don’t want a podium, just sit down in a circle and just talk, everyone welcome, atheists are welcomed, that’s how I’d bring people to god, hopefully empower each other, getting closer to our truth
balance of old traditions but being radical, finding balance
really called to go to l.a. really scary, demonic forces there
TP: align with nature you’ll be blessed, beach, ocean, hiking trails, protected wild areas, wild coast line
things about la that do drive me crazy and make me sick
I been here chasing dreams, having enough come true I’m ready to chill more, enjoy fruits of labor put in over the course of almost 20 years, done really well, almost like vegas too, if you don’t have your shit together it can tear you apart and drag you down
VS: living in heart of hollywood, studio apartment so peaceful, 3 am , yelling, toxcity, energy so intense, I have to be shielded on another level spiritually to go in and do the work
TP: have a yard, ecosystem you can draw from, rather than be stacked in an apartment, co-op houses, yard spaces garden sanctuary, capture rain water, transforming homes, eco sanctuaries
where ever you go don’t lose that connection to the soil, have more freedom, hang clothes out to dry, pets will have a better life
you can be safe from crime, but not safe from neighbors who don’t want you to grow food in your front yard
east of l.a. river, parties all night long, soulful dance music
pacific palisades, between malibu and santa monica, coast line, trails, less population, still half hour away from sunset strip, if you want to play that game, it’s a gamble, tango with the matrix
VS: start small, hopefully get congregation to build it up, lets expand, love to have a store too, do workshops, give people opportunities to shine there light, on different things, diversity, inclusivity, reinvent our current
In this episode I’m joined by Larry Fredrick a highly experienced and accomplished evolved masculine coach. He shares the intimate details of his journey of personal growth through the catharsis of the early punk rock movement, transcending a failing marriage, getting into self-help, pick-up artistry, and ultimately a diverse array of spiritual and sexual mastery programs.
He has a down-to-earth perspective on learning and teaching practical self-improvement skill sets for men. With over 10 years of advanced training and practice he’s developed the “Rock Your Cock” program for men to really step into their power from a place of heart-centered, mindful, and spiritual consciousness.
I was most intrigued by his stories of experiencing authentic traditional tantric initiation in the jungles of India and his explanation of how he’s been able to adapt the teachings and apply them in his own love and sex life, as well as transmit the teachings to his students.
It was a deep honor and pleasure to have this opportunity to speak with a fellow rocker who’s living the dream as a tantric punk, has worked directly with many of my heroes, and who embodies forms of tantric magic that you can’t learn from books alone.
Larry Fredrick is an award winning international educator. He’s also a sex coach;
licensed and certified in Erotic Blueprints, Sexological bodywork, Neurolinguistic
Programming, Hypnotherapy, and Somatic Sex Education.
Larry works with men who want to clearly find and express their desires so they can
feel empowered in finding passion, pleasure, and juicy hot sex. He has traveled the
globe, from the mountains of Peru to Tantric temples in the jungles of India, training
with some of the top names in the fields of self transformation and sexual education
including Jaiya Ma, David Deida, Michaela Boehm, Destin Gerek, Satyen Raja and Joseph
From having issues with erectile dysfunction, performance and social skills, to
becoming a multi-orgasmic man with the skills and techniques of a confident lover,
Larry helps men step into their full erotic power so they can have more confidence in
the bedroom and in their relationships.
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin double dribble Evans welcome to Township Funk podcast episode number 2 0 7 buy a very Frederick who is a masculine empowerment coach and he has a lot of interesting and exciting offerings that we’re going to talk about we go back to having met through Destin Garrix Network and the weekends or weekend men’s Retreats that I’ve been apart of and he is taking that further and done the training and is now yeah Mexican apartment coaches work with Dustin Garrick he’s worked with Jaya and provides for blueprint training Psalm Isadora and others and that we have some interesting choices of Common Ground coming from a punk. Background and we’ll have lots to talk about regarding the relationship interplay between the punk at 6 and attitude and the Tantrum and so with that said Larry do you want to just give us kind of an overview of your personal Journey leading up to all of these exciting offerings at you right now well I mean my bias is long so I’m just going to cut to the meat I am on a masculine empowerment coach I have a program called Rock your cock which is on my website it’s exactly what the title says it’s to help me and be in there talking show up to women and masculine way and also be in their heart and be in their mind being there in their spirit so it’s connecting the lower chakras the higher chakras and it works through blocks and sexual techniques and on communication relationships so that’s the program that I’m offering the listeners they sign up on my website but I’ve also travel all over the world work with a whole bunch of teachers it’s been a long journey from a failed marriage sexless marriage to know I having an amazing hot juicy sex with an amazing woman I mean our house right now doing this podcast on so I think we should just get right to the question you might have been possible thank you that overview and I would say you have for me a lot of a lot of this work started with a path to Liberation through the punk rock movements I’d love to have to have you start there seems like an earlier chapter of your life when when you were mainly involved in that scene in that community and so I left it here just what that was like what that was like for you and how that’s kind of was a in a precursor to or foreshadowing a more spiritual path yes I would say that the punk movement was when I was part of the punk scene it was and I was not on the spiritual path I was graduated high school in 1982 and that was kind of the heart of the punk movement so when I would go out with my friends they would be to some of the Seas really small tiny little clubs and what I liked about the punk movement is that it was about redefining everything including what music you know like you didn’t even have to play an instrument to play an instrument and you also didn’t need what was an instrument instrument could be a power drill and instrument could be you know something that that you bang on and make noise you didn’t have to sing you didn’t have to look a certain way you could just go out there and express emotions so it was like in a really cathartic and sort of Rage driven and you know for a young man it was a way to kind of experience now on a more spiritual level two experience on a visceral level of emotions in a group of people yeah I hear you on that and that’s something I would like to ask you is as if you had since your contract negotiations and in Journeys in Adventures you I’m sure you have both experienced than just been coming across people who are core very much about inviting the shot the energy and Awakening Kundalini energy and a lot of sometimes erratic kind of krias and sometimes more graceful dance forms but I always like to make the comparison that the Kundalini energy is really well leather it up in the punk rock circle pit and sometimes even the mosh pit but there’s also like a activation going on that’s doing some stuff on purging and purification you have any thoughts on I’m not sure though I mean I know what I have learned over the years is a fellow I’ve done a lot of working in different states cramps and there’s definitely a trance that happens when you’re in a group of people listening to music whatever that music is an. The emotions that come out become magnified when they’re when it’s not just you feeling that emotion but a whole group of people feel emotions that are brought out in a punk rock club or different than in a tantric Puja but they’re still emotions and they’re still magnified by being in the group that is a great way to say and Selso and very inclusive way to say you had mention also that you do hypnosis so this might be a good time maybe a little out of the timeline to mention it here but we were talking about France dates and Altered States do you want to talk a bit about what he described for people who may be haven’t had an xtatic group emotional cathartic experience like what is that what how would you describe that in terms of your knowledge of how the brain works and how the nervous system works and and how Altered States were when you’re in a group of people doing the weather is a tantric Puja or a rock concert or even going to Vegas there’s a lot of things that are basically you go into a State of Trance when your mind is overloaded so if you’re overloaded by the sounds of slot machines going off at noises and sounds and smells your ear mind starts to get overloaded and then it becomes suggestible so we’re overloaded it when I live in Los Angeles I mean I’m overloaded as soon as I walk out of my house there’s there’s things that are overloading my mind which means that my mind is very susceptible to Suggestions by advertisers people that may not have my best interest so when you go into a trance State you were open and you could be open to positive suggestions or negative suggestions as a hypnotist I’m I’m trying to say I’m trying to see if you’re in that trance state with a hypnotist URI your ear assuming and I know that will not working with you I’m sitting in container with your safety mind and your best interest in mind so what I’m going to put his suggestions that are positive as opposed to suggestions that if you eat this hamburger from Carl’s jr. you’re going to get laid or whatever other suggestions people are putting in our head through our everyday hypnosis with that I don’t know if that makes sense yeah totally not exactly what I was supposed I’m getting out of here so I’m curious so from going from that earlier Punk type of initiation what what were some of the Catalyst I know you mentioned it a sexless marriage and so what was that process like of transforming your life pass into Seaking Tantra discovering it and then you can give us the sort of them chronology of the different works that you’ve been involved in 4 years old so I’ve had a lot of Life of different stories and episodes but I think one of us when I was in the midst of my marriage I was also sort of dissatisfied with my job and I went to I went to a therapist who was going to put me on medication and I said you know I’ll fuck that I don’t want to that’s not the route I want to go I want to take them medicine so I decided to look into hypnotherapy as a way of you know kind of working on myself like I figured that I could use positive thinking that use hypnotherapy to give direction to why was starting to feel kind of lost in a marriage and a job and it worked I mean a super powerful and I found that I was attracting when I was when I was starting out I was attracting a lot of men who either word at social anxiety or or problems relating to women a lot of guys that were in a computer Gamers and then they would just like really in their head and I found that they were drawn to me because I also I totally understand was a computer gamer I was addicted to World of Warcraft I was psychic Total Computer gamer I’m that was my way of escaping which is also a state of hypnosis so first I use it as a way of working on myself and then I just found that I naturally Drew clients for men who were going through the same thing I was in which is basically get out of your head and into your body and you know take all the negative stories all this all the self steam issues all the confidence issues in and a really men are powerful and in most of them we work hard and sometimes we forget that there’s so many negative stories like to impart positive confidence power and is just to show up those were some of the things that I was doing as a hypnotist and also letting them most of them were able to get over their shyness or their social anxiety and really feel much better about themselves and show up show up for women better now that you know that was just the beginning that was where I started I’ve got a lot farther since since I started out that is very interesting I’m very concerned about the new generation as well younger generation coming up through the video games in that level disconnection if you don’t mind before we move forward into more of the time and spirituality and sexuality episodes in chapters you know what would you say if you were if a person listening now is really hooked on gaming and not and not really taking care of their body and not taking care of their their relationships and I’m kind of getting sucked into that realm do you have any advice just off the top of your head that you would share or recommend that they contact you or I’d love to know about more resources for people in that situation too big essential secret for all of it and it’s not just kids on video games cuz I’m working out with about messing with about twenty-five men and it’s all they’re all it’s all the same as we’re in our heads we’re not in our body it takes like it it’s it’s like a gradual moving into our bodies and in feeling our bodies are so much numbness like I find the men that I’m working with right now I’m working with them and then they are like I’ll take a breath and they say what do you feel and if they will I feel relaxed bulshit you don’t feel relaxed you feel your body you feel the tension from being hunched over a computer over a car it’s like they’re not feeling their bodies so they’re not feeling their own their own bodies are not filled their emotions if shut it all down and they’re not showing up for the women in their lives thank you for doing that work and I would say myself I was I was very much a gamer growing up as a child but I guess luckily for me to games weren’t that controlling so I spent plenty of time by the time I matured sexually life my actual life became the video game that all of the BB King the real game that the video games were kind of like training for so I hope that that art of development can be kind of you know did you ever get that sense that there’s an appropriate role for four games of all kinds and then once life really starts going you should be out there and living it right but I mean I think everything is I’m not against games go and you know video games are awesome but I’m against retreating into your head into like a fantasy world so you’re not dealing with your own body your own emotions you’re not dealing with reality you’re not dealing with opportunities in front of you so you know there’s nothing wrong with video games is nothing wrong with whatever drugs or alcohol or whatever it is people use to get out of their bodies and into their you know whatever Escape people need but if you live there and you’re not you’re not connecting to the real world was obviously that’s not what I’m I want I want men to choose I want men to be a body grounded Power full sewing up in the real world and feeling their bodies feeling they’re motioning and feeling their sexuality because they’re missing out that you know that there’s a lot of men having sex or fucking but they’re not feeling like the full range of what’s possible in orgasm which even even what men consider orgasm I mean it took me a long time to reach to the point where I’m really like blown the lid off of what an orgasm is I I can I could lie in bed next to my partner and we haven’t even had sex and I’ll just be like convulsing in like shaking and in like complete pleasure that would could be nonstop until I finally so you know what I want to go to sleep so I didn’t even know what was possible an orgasm all right well yeah I get there I get your point I think so I think there could be a sweet spot of having your cake and eating it too guarding the video games and if you really develop yourself in in the physical and spiritual and sexual aspects then by all means enjoy the video games that I would take that to be some good advice and so now we’re getting into that more advanced sexual Spiritual Development so what happened next in your journey as far as your discovery of Tantra did you find out fire and go to a workshop or did some mystical Guru approach you and traveling trip or what was that that was very very much a guy into TV and video games and and I got involved in like the pickup seen you know there’s did the pickup artist scene and at which why don’t want to get into that but I was listening to a podcast and I found out about this workshop and it was a tantra Workshop didn’t you didn’t the guy named such Young Living Canada who is still I still involved with his great awesome teacher and it was a it was a 3-day workshop and involving Connection in communication between men and women and it was sort of a Puja but again none of these words and if you did I wouldn’t have known what it was what it meant I was totally not into anything that I considered spiritual chakras or any of that stuff I would not have gone which is it was called I think was called sex passion in Enlightenment something like that was a 3-day workshop and I went to that and it just blew my mind I mean making eye contact with different women and I’m all of the things that came up all of the emotions that came up all of the you know that the self-reflection that came up and reminder that there’s a story I told him another podcast but I might as well tell the story I was I was paired up with a woman and she looked me in the eyes it was like eye contact and all she said to me is I trust you this was just the lines that a woman was supposed to say to a man I trust you and I received that you know the woman sang to me I trust you and I I was on the ground like crying for I don’t I don’t even know how long are in a ball crying because I realized I was not a trustworthy Matt which is why my marriage is all fucked up I was not a man that a woman can trust and I sort of made it like I sort of question what what is it like to be a trustworthy man what is what is a trustworthy man that’s what a woman wants no more than a big cock they want a man’s dick trust I mean so it in terms of becoming a sexual Manner and I realized I had a lot of inner work to do and then I realized that what I was learning was Contra and then and then that set me on a whole other path which is actually why I was attracted to Dyess blueprints because she talks about different blueprints one of being energetic and I realize that I was an energetic and I didn’t even know what that was I didn’t even know that was a thing but now that I’ve coached for the blueprints it’s like I wasn’t energetic in my shadow which hole explain later but I was at I was an energetic was kind of didn’t know I was and therefore I lived in the shadow of the energetic well I just was a beautiful story and I think yeah but I’m glad that that offering existed and you were able to connect with it I do I didn’t get involved myself in the pickup scene and I I guess I kind of I feel like I avoided it as as a Pastime personally but I have met some people recently you know who was part of their the early attorney as well and so if you don’t mind talking about it I love to hear a little bit more but if you’d rather not that’s fine too but I’ll just put that out there for people who don’t some of the principles of it I think there is maybe it has a bad reputation as being manipulative and really selfish and kind of way to use kind of trickery and and tactics of Deceit and so that’s that’s like the negative impression I have it although I’ve been enlightened that there’s more to it and it’s actually a past 2 in development and evolution that’s that has a very respectable depends on who you train with or who your buddies are but do you want to talk about that is there anything Redemptive that people should know about that but I think there’s an idea is that we can change as men that we can learn skills we can learn skills like presents we can learn how to communicate better that these are skills that we need to learn that we’re not just some men are what are called Naturals but a lot of men are not and that there’s ways to teach it to the ways to learn it there’s ways to improve so the idea of men like I mean there’s a lot of ego and in terms of no I’m good I’m good I’m okay you know I’m I’m doing alright like the idea of the pickup is that actually wherever you’re at you could be better and pick up does use a lot of NLP which is neuro-linguistic programming that’s kind of a another reason I got interested in it and a hypnosis in a lot of the things that you know now that I that I teach it there was a lot of things that I learned from being in that scene especially the ideas at these are skills that could be learned in that they can be taught so we don’t have to be satisfied with where we’re at as men and that there are ways to break down and improve their very well said I appreciate that if somebody was had missed out on getting into the pickup seen earlier do you recommend that people go and read certain books or watch certain videos or find certain meetups is it still something that you would include in your programs for men now or was it something that you kind of see is like all well it was a means to an end or stepping stone I’m curious if you would still endorse that movement somehow we’ll see I don’t know what the movement is up to now I think there’s a lot of no sketchy kind of characters in there and a lot of like exploiting a lot of marketing and a lot of I think taking advantage of men who want to improve I mean I would recommend myself because hitch hook I’m taking what I learned from pick up from hypnosis and other things and spirituality and I’m not teaching not teaching men to go out to bars and pick up women but I’m teaching men to be the kind of man that wants to go to the bars they’ll be more attractive to women don’t I don’t teach lines or anything like that cuz I found they don’t work but works is doing the work on yourself so you show up as a more powerful attractive man and I think that what the pickup is exploiting is is they need which again I finding working with men is like we want the Magic Bullet and we want it fast and we want it like Surefire and we want it without doing the work like we want we want that they promised a lot and you know like the magic pick up line is going to make them horny and a lot of it’s bullshit really but if you get involved if it doesn’t wake you up and turns it over these are things that I can improve I I can improve my posture I can improve how I make eye contact with person and I can improve my listening skills I can improve how I show up and then these things help build confidence and then when confidence is building then you naturally become more attractive person and more attractive to women those again great points I’m glad that that were talking about that something I I guess kind of worried and hasn’t again been that personal to me but I feel you on that so so now where would you say you want to start bringing in the official trainings that you did the Special Operations that you’ve done with some of the sum of the key players in the modern Neo Tantra and movement sounds like you’ve been you know getting out there and so when did your formal or more formal training ministration start in Gaston go from there after I did that work with Sachi on the path of the Warrior Stage so I did a lot of work with him which included shamanic journeys to Mexico meeting doing doing meeting shamans and I can’t even like going to some of the the magical crazy stuff that happened in he he was he was into David data so I got involved with David data in one of his teachers Michaela boehm might I work with her and so these are different different forms of Tantra and none of them call themselves Tantra but then I got involved in like I met Psalm Isadora and she’s much more of a the more traditional like old school country from India or the cheap there’s a whole Neo Tantra movement which comes from Osho and a lot of the teachers teach this this form of Tantra that is basically from Osho when he came to America and I do know it’s like I can’t talk forever about talks so much about it but some really I really clicked with her because she she she brought in this like traditional chanting in Sanskrit and it was just beautiful rituals and I like the ritual of it I like the I like the kind of formality of the ritual so she told me about a temple that you did too in India and if it came to my mind and then she passed away so I never got a chance to go to this Temple but then I did with another teacher Don Cartwright took me to this Temple because it’s hidden you don’t know where it is and it’s like an old-school ancient country Temple Heating in the jungle and if you can give you make it there by got initiated basically it was like 2 weeks class of of learning how to chant incense sounds great and there’s is 108 goddess statues and you have to do a ritual to each one it’s it’s kind of like you’re just immersed in this ancient language there there’s flowers everywhere and smells and and it’s just kind of mind-blowing I was basically magic school it’s like I learn magic and but that sounds weird is it there there’s a hundred and a goddess statues in in like they’re all sexual and there’s that there’s a Temple there that’s like the Yoni Temple so it’s basically goddess worship and I have to learn these these these rituals and you just immersed in it and it is going into a trance basically your this thing is in the jar there’s no toilet paper there if you eat with your hands and it’s like a whole other world it’s like going back thousand years and and then at the end do you know I basically was initiated into the srivijaya lineage but what’s interesting about it is I did a ceremony with kaniche where I was basically the one of my wishes was to bring this woman I was seeing on this journey with me and I’m in our house right now it’s been 3 years and we were just kind of seeing each other but I wanted her to be part of this journey and then for Valentine’s Day after coming back from the temple I did this Pooja that I learned there in the temple that it’s like a secret ancient ceremony and I learned it And I memorized it and I practiced it and I prefer I did it to her on Valentine’s Day and she said that blew her mind like like like to have it wasn’t that it wasn’t the ritual of it but to have so much attention paid on her like all the details that you know you have to have and tastes all five senses I touch different parts of her body different pressure points and pleasure points and did chanting and took like 2 hours but it said she said that blew her mind you know like to have that kind of ritual performed on her and I could never do it again it’s like I could not remember all of that all of that stuff I learned I have to go back in my arms again but it was almost it did feel like I had received some kind of transmission and I like I was I’m talking about it I don’t really talk about this I’ve never actually really talked about this because there’s some feeling of I don’t know if people are going to believe me or am I showing off or what it what exactly am I saying and yet I’m also feeling like a vibration in my chest that I went through this experience was pretty incredible I mean hidden country temple in the jungles of India and initiating in the bringing that to my girlfriend yeah it is putting me in a trance as I talk about it well me too I’m having an adventure in my mind too and I love that you shared that and I feel blessed that you feel comfortable sharing those details with me and I’m sure there’s you know you can write a whole book just about that that cycle that you did there but you know I’m I’m flashing through all of the experiences I’ve had doing fujas and rituals and ceremonies and just everything that I’ve experienced in in the westernized Neo Tantra version where think there’s always a number of people who’ve had those more authentic traditional classical country experiences in India or in other parts of other parts of the world and bring that back and are able to bring that transmission and that energy carries forward for people who work for just you know in some meat up in somebody’s living room on in West play or something and actually it is it transmits but I love hearing the stories of the actual experience is cuz we really I don’t think we have many places in the US where where goddess worship and the ritualised procedural practice of worshiping and asking for blessings and protection from the deities I don’t see that happening a lot I send in the meet-up send in the township groups what not I think there is more of a focus on more secular personal development and just you know how to be a better relationships and this kind of undifferentiated one missense of bliss but I’m actually way more interested in this otherworldly transdimensional intelligent entities deities and beautiful Divine spirits that have personalities and very distinct archetypal Personalities in that that’s what you’re talking about and so I’m thrilled to always hear more about what those practices of the ones that seem to not get through the mesh into the West as often as like the multi-orgasmic even the Kundalini stuff which I’ve heard you know a lot of Kundalini people approach Kundalini without without paying homage to its is a feminine Shakti goddess aspect of it so much so yeah I’m glad you had that experience and then that you bring that forward and certainly that we just go from talking about the gimmicks of pick up Artistry which you know it’s like I think of pickup artists I think of con artists I think of like confidence scams and then evil going from from that Vibe of that world to this experience you talking about and translating the beauty and magic of these experiences in Matt’s and then having the proof in the pudding and applying it to turning on and really worship thing and giving to this beloved you yours like I hope that those people who are trying to buy the magic pills and by the secret pick up lines and all that they actually would hear this and and and be inspired by what you’re saying you say there’s like a way way deeper Richard passed to towards some pleasing women and in being a God you know being like the guy who gets her off the best and the guys will never forget that that can come from it a deeper more of my spiritual face so thank you very much that was my you know my my Applause and praise for it for you sharing that and so do you want to then go from there to how you started to apply that if you start to want to teach Tantra more formally and start building your own kind of phone programs did you do some other trainings if you go to work with diarrhea right after that or what was next time you’re you’re sort of Business Development path of Tantra make something clear like this I’m listening to this I’m not expecting men to go into the jungles in like wipe their ass with their hands because there’s no toilet paper you know what and then come back and do a 3-hour ritual to the woman in order to get laid that’s not what I’m saying that I did that but what I teach man is to put their attention and make make like or you can make an ordinary day exciting and ritualistic so like I’m going we’re going to San Diego this weekend and we’re sitting we’re going to turn it into a ritual at an adventure and I’m going to I’m going to pay attention to my woman as opposed to like the pickup artist seen I think there was a lot of like Don’t Buy Women drains their they’re not going to respect you if you if women don’t respect men who are nice guys and all that in you could be nice to a woman you could pay attention to a woman you could be attentive to her needs you could have your balls intact it’s not like if you’re if you’re nice to a woman or you please a woman or you pay attention to her that you’re giving up your balls that’s like the thing that I didn’t like about pick up cuz I love sharing my woman with some attention so you don’t like what I did was was a super elaborate version of that and yet there’s ways to pay attention in minor ways every single you all the time and so I try to make ordinary time with her you know beautiful and sacred and in treat her like a goddess even if I’m wash will just washing dishes you know like make that a ritual washing dishes so the dishes are done so we can go to the bedroom and we can fuck you know it’s like let’s let’s make washing dishes a ritual let’s make washing dishes set let’s make washing dishes away press to get that out of the way so we have space in our lives and two to pay attention to each other and dropped into a space of Sacred Love and that does not require you going to the jungles I just requires the shift in in your perspective I love it seems like there’s always going to need to be some ratio of people who have had the deeper immersive experiences in the classical traditional timeshare temples and then bring that back and you know it’s like everybody’s not going to be a shaman but we need to have a sweet spot kind of ratio so thank you for having that experience I’m certainly some point wanting wanting to to be one of those folks who can have a deeper experiences and then transmit them and translate them into a more modern contact so so yeah thanks for that clarification and and that makes a lot of sense so so yeah what would what was your next step word some building the confidence not only to please your own lovers but to teach bring this magic and medicine and and then skill sets to Two Men and develop more of a practice of your own let me guess it was very important to me because I went through his program it’s a whole new program that was videos as you know cuz you’re in the videos but so there’s a lot more aid for teaching men and I’m running man through this program I now that I found this in again when I was part of the pickup seen and he was at some some he was speaking at one of them I don’t remember how I ran into him but then I kept running into him like every single week I would go to event and they were all different events that when was The Burning Man event and when was it Astro van with a pick up a bed and was like who is this guy Destin I should call him and talk to him and I went through his program and I became multi-orgasmic so it was like wow I read that might actually work and all of that and it didn’t work but Justin’s program work and now I’m not like a coach like now I am authorized to teach his two other men because he really breaks it down he went through 6 logical Body Works which I actually also went through that trade-in so I see where it comes from I see the roots for it I see why it works and how it works and the bottom line is it works it’s like you can take a man run him through this step by step program in at the end he he’s pretty much has control over his orgasm and it worked for me and it’s working for the men that are going to the program I know it works I mean he’s done it with hundreds and hundreds of men so that was one official training I got and then and another training I got is was why is blueprints with shock yeah I mean that I learned about Jaya Jaya to Destin one of his podcast actually I had seen joy around I seen her she used to promote our books at different events different sexual advance and I would see Jai I kept seeing her also but then I was listening to an interview that just ended with her where she was talking about what she called The Erotic Blueprints and I was in another relationship where I was bringing all my Tantra training in my you know I gazing into this relationship and I thought it was great you know I was having orgasm but the woman wasn’t and I thought well am I what’s wrong and then just kind of said there’s Blueprints and I’m unenergetic like that’s why I love this time. I happen to be an energetic and I can I can really tap into that and I can have these incredible experiences but not everybody is an energetic and then she said then there’s a sensual there’s a sexual there’s a kinky and there’s a shapeshifter and I realized while the woman that I was with was very sexual and I’m sexual also but it was not my primary blueprint so I was speaking to her as an energetic like expecting her to have the same kind of contract experiences but she wasn’t a wire that way and and then sometimes she would just like to just want to like you just want to fuck and I was like what I want to connect first one I gave you like really just want to go there right away so now I’m learning to speak the other person’s language and understand my own language and the woman I’m with now super super sensual that’s why she loved that couch I get because it was all about taste and smell and sound with all the senses so that really turned wrong because of who you was designed to be a sensual experience we’re all over essential were lit up and I know how to I know how to speak the language of a sensual and one of them is example making sure for a sensual if things are out of place if dishes are done at the house is dirty she can’t drop into her body she can’t really experience orgasm so for me clean up the houses is for play because that’s what my that’s what my partner wants she wants all that stuff out of her head because the sensual will get into their head start worrying about stuff and then you know of a few years down the line the partnership is not working out they’re not understanding why they’re not there there they both think they’re having sex but when is having one is not getting their energetic fed and the others not getting their Central fat or their sexual fat so learning the blueprints was like to learn that I was in energetic like blew me away because then I realized it is a thing in that it’s not weird to have these orgasmic experience is just looking into someone’s eyes but it’s also know it may not be the way another person the person I’m with name me not experience it the same way and I can’t force them to have that experience I appreciate that work that was done. Can you say kind of from your training and where you work with her and Emma studies of for blueprint I’m not aware of the podcast before I don’t have it on the top of my head, the backstory of how how she would describe the the process of discovering these beasts different patterns do could you say something to what what to your your recollection is like her kind of backstory around that if if you would let me hear backstory things I mean her backstory she was also sexological bodyworker which is we all have in common me giant Destin we’ve all been trained by the same teacher Joseph Kramer and sexological Body Works and child learn after hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours working with couples that there was different couples were turned on by different touch like the man might be turned on by certain kind of touch and the woman might be turned on by a different kind of touch and they weren’t the same so the man expected the woman to respond the way he was responding and then just started to break it down and realized that a sensual is turned on by a completely different sort of touch than the sexual is and they’re actually if you want to know what your blueprint is if you go on my website you can take your who is there is emails that you’ll get I will explain all the blueprints so my website is in-body awakening.com which is e m p o d y m body which is hard to spell under the dash awakening.com hopefully you’ll have this written somewhere so it’s a for sure that’ll be on the Awakening., there’s a quiz on the bottom you can take the quiz for free and then you’ll get emails that looks plain all of them it’ll tell you what your blueprint is and then you’ll get emails at hotel look at 5 different emails that will explain the is the superpower of each blueprint and the shadow side of each have a shadow site to find that out and then again yeah go on the website take the quiz and then you can book a session with me and I can talk about how how you can implement this in your sex life because the blueprints is just one part of my program cool alright well thank you for sharing that and also I think it’s a great point to make that people who have been in this field in this movement and its industry and have done that level of work a game that sense of Mastery and then these emergent properties of being able to distill these kind of macro counter and that’s where that that wisdom and in comes from is that that richness of experience so I appreciate your hearing about that and I know there’s a number of other systems that people have developed to categorize various kind of powder and sand and styles of relating and there’s love languages that you know all kinds of different different metrics and tools that have been developed to kind of self analyze and solve correct and in in an ad so glad that there is more of the sexual and Amore essential systems that are being developed and so yes and then after that now where does that where does that bring us to within in your historical chronological timeline are we getting close to where you’re at now or where was there more happening before we get to the present but no car now what your you can go into the details of the the rock your cock program it sounds like it’s probably drawing on all the influences but that I don’t want to skip over anything before we get there so yeah what where where else what else do we need to cover it to get to the present read marriage I started to want something else got involved in the pickup scene from their got involved in Contra through Sachi on and then became a hypnotist it so it is it’s not like this happen overnight is was 10 years and then you know traveling with Sachi on and seeing these shamanic having the shamanic experience has started to open me up to this other world of that as an energetic at first I would have been like so skeptical because that’s that’s what the shadow of the energetic is it’s like because I was an energetic I was denying that there could possibly be everything have to have a scientific explanation and everything we was bullshit and Kippy and you know I’m coming from the punk background you know those hippies like I had but that was my shadow side because I was actually completely once once I got opened up and started to experience things myself it was like boom I’m in energetic I can feel energy I could I actually have these experiences that I can’t really describe in that not everyone has to believe know if they don’t believe it that’s fine I’m not going to try to convince anyone all I know is I’ve had some incredible experiences so so it was from pick up Tantra hypnosis and then then starting to find the teacher including traveling to Canada traveling to India going to Peru having different a Mexico having different experiences and I think my primary influences then became Destin enjoy shampoo mentored me and taught me their system the system of sexual self-mastery for men so men can become multi-orgasmic and the the blueprints which is like the love languages for the bedroom and what’s nice about it is I can teach this it’s like this is exactly what the pick up pick up Community says I could break it down I could teach it plus I had hypnosis to it so like a high anchor in so you remember the stuff and in fact I’m filming a whole I’m feeling a whole Erotic Hypnosis thing in the middle of filming at we have it work where I put my partner and she’s never even done it before on film where she becomes she has these just from listening going into hypnosis you basically has hypnotics orgasms and I put her on the bed in a hypnotic BDSM session I teach you guys how to do this so this is my own stuff that I’m adding offering a lot it’s like 10 years of all of these different trainings come together into my one Rodger cock I survived that sounds great siding and I can’t I’m jealous that you that you got such a great name for it I got it how did I how did that slip by me all this time you noticed it’s funny it’s funny cuz originally and have more of like a mask you act like I was masculine and Power Man in and he’s kind of names and I just said no fuck it rocks your cock cuz that’s what men want you know even though I’m teaching them spirituality and all this other stuff that’s not going to get them excited rock your cock it’s like yeah because that’s the end result I’m offering the end result rock your cock and that means more than just about getting your cock it’s not about getting your cock hard it’s about showing up as a man in his masculine energy and it is feminine so it’s like I’m being done being sneaky cuz I’m also teaching men to be in their feminine to to be in their heart but not going to get him in the door you know what gets him in the door is it’s about your cock about being a man and it’s about showing up in that way but in order to do that you need to embrace your family and you need to be able to have have experiences trance-like experiences which again you can do through breathing which I teach to help self hypnosis so but yeah the name your cock cuz that’s the end result income for the Shiva and you stay for the shock to you no thank God it’s it’s it’s Punk is Rock You Know rocks you rock it you know it’s it’s about showing up in in in in playing her instrument and just playing it however the fuck you want to you know you don’t have to go and take formal lessons in in school you just you just rock it because it’s natural I love that you. That’s it what’s the point right to get to where things flow naturally and you’re not fighting anything and you’re not having to count all people who are more than the more I guess you could say the the less edgy the less sexual the less explicit but the more kind of family-friendly Orthodox Temple Tantra experiences are going to be a lot of ritual as an end in techniques and tools that that are about you counting beads and Counting chance and getting using all of these Scott all the scaffolding and all of these handrails sort of to build the capacity to have full attention in your body and then eventually you are less reliant on on those techniques and it just you just like a martial artist it’s just there when you need it and you just keep time keeping that refresh so yeah I love that idea that I think we’re kind of stripping away layers of domestication we’re getting back back to a more and body Primal state where it wasn’t we weren’t overcoming so many neurotic not than patterns and things in and it would just be a more natural more that’s also the punk rock thing you know I would say as well as they shed this formalities boxes the first module of my program because it got to clear our our modern the roses and there are blocked because it’s like the about stuff like I don’t believe that any of these you can learn sexual techniques but until you get that’s why it’s modular like I teach Advanced sex techniques but I don’t teach that until you get past your blocks and learn how to be present to your body and your breathing and then again you don’t need to do all the fancy he learn Sanskrit stuff all you need to do is learn how to breathe and feel your body I’m stripping it down I’m I’m not I’m getting rid of all the do you know the esoteric because I know not again not everybody’s an energetic I want everybody to be able to relate to my program so I guess I’m not it’s not part of my even though I did all that stuff I’m not going to teach anyone how to chant in Sanskrit I’m going to teach a man how to breathe into their body so they can feel where they have tension in their body and where they can open up and start feeling their emotions thank you again for everything I think we’re about a good point to wrap up if you want to share some final words of advice final insides and then again where people can go to find your work yeah well my website again I already said it is in body – awakening.com and are they can take the quiz for free and then if you want it there to sign up for a session and when our strategy session where we can talk about how we can use the blueprints and how I can work with men specifically and I would put Township punk in the comments because I think that your audience is in particular audience and I would work with the men that come from this podcast different than men that come from another podcast so I would create an individual program although my I have a module program this whole setup is I would modify it according to my listeners and have a one-hour session with them so that’s embody – awakening.com take the quiz and sign up for a strategy session with me awesome well thank you so much man has been a pleasure to talk shop with you and I’ll still be able to have that a resident so I think sometimes people can lose a grounding this and that sort of bullshit detectors at the punk rock movement I think gives us a very good protector and I can tell that you’re upgrading from that place if a healthy skepticism in and also but open-mindedness to and avoiding Dogma avoiding too much too many rules and in too many I don’t think I don’t think you’re going to fall into the style of a cult leader or become a cult leader yourself in a in a bad way so thank you for your offer doing all that work you’re doing and for glad we got to have this conversation and we will be publishing this in the next couple weeks or so getting through a backlog of a previous guess that’s what I will send you the link and we will hopefully be able to talk more again in the future all right right on cool alright well thanks so much again and have a great day thank you. 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In this episode I’m joined again by the illustrious Grace Diaz for an exploration of her adventures and battles online and in Las Vegas as she brings the glory and wildness of the Goddess where she’s needed the most. She shares her frustrations with being betrayed by fellow exotic dancers who sabotage her rise to glory, and her unexplained unexpected deplatforming by Y00T00B.
She’s working hard to raise consciousness and intends to form a union of empowered exotic dancers in Las Vegas. We discuss some different governance and business models exemplified by various women led sex worker organizations and brainstorm on how best to move forward in a good way. It’s definitely a revolution that’s time has come, and we deeply resonate on the value of the healing magic of tantra and the need for it to be accessible in modernized legit goddess temples. The patriarchal bullying that Vegas is based on will be subverted by conscious yoni and heart centered activism. We cover all of these topics and many more!
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My passion of healing began at the age of ten, when my father, a Reiki Master of 20 years initiated me as a Reiki Master in Medellin, Colombia. For years after arriving back to the United States, I began teaching Usui Reiki all over the east coast.
Reiki lead me to Tantra. I was introduced to Shakti-Pakti-Tantric-Yoga by my Guru Tafari Sudra, in 2011, and it allowed me to heal my 10-year eating disorder. Our organization, YONI GRACE, LLC was birthed in 2012 when I felt the burning need to share the wisdom I was experiencing through Yoni Breathing.
In 2012 Grace began distributing Yoni Eggs wholesale worldwide and teaching thousands of women how to run a Yoni Egg business from home!
Grace hosts Yoni events in the Las Vegas area and internationally. In 2016, she was privileged to be hosted in Istanbul, Turkey. There, Grace and 35 Muslim women participated in a weekend workshop of the Yoni Egg practice with Yoni Yoga. Her classes are one of a kind and focus on helping women embrace their innate sensual wisdom for spiritual and physical wellness.
In this episode I’m joined again by Devika the Techy Tantrika, this time for an epic exploration of the theology, philosophy, history, and practical applications of sacred dance from a Tantric Buddhist perspective. We shared a beautiful experience together during a sacred dance training retreat in Portland, OR several years ago and I’d been wanting to do a recap with her on her experience. She has a deep and rich background in sacred dance, tantric buddhism, and yogini mysticism and it’s a treasure to hear her elaborate on the teachings we received while at the Dance Mandal temple. It was a life changing experience which led to my discovery of Vajra yoginis, and Khroda Kali in particular who I resonate with. My track Wrathful Dakini is a devotional hymn which was based on my revelatory experiences surrounding this chapter of my life.
We compare notes from the dance training retreat and comment on the relevance of traditional teachers and classical studies in tantra and all spiritual paths.
We also discuss the modern intersection of sexiness, sex witches, social media, and her research project: https://witchactivism.carrd.co/.
Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 2 0 1 game join Again by devika the country Qatar and I wouldn’t have done a couple episodes so far in the past one all about open-source sexuality another one all about keeps Rising sex work policy and so we have been talking a lot about motive the modern synthesis and assimilation of classical time show with Neo Tantra and check and what not. It’s just fun and exciting intersection is just been crazy to go back and listen to those shows this time we’re going to get into a really fine or kind of personalized description of somewhat Memoirs where we first met in person at the at the dance Mondo Maple Leaves tantric Buddhist sacred Dance Training temple in syrtis I’m very authentic true to form goddess Temple that really for me was profound in many ways mostly in that it was a revelation for me to see that there is living breathing devotional goddess Temple Buddhism where there’s more than just the multiple genders of DVDs are our honored and respected and worship and field practice where you might not you might not be exposed to that otherwise so I’m extremely grateful for did you get for inviting me to that to this weekend Dance Training Retreat which was kind of like my my Karate Kid training with the master in and stealing KY Lake you know maybe I don’t think I need my black belt but I probably probably got at least one built you know up some starting a house from scratch but along the way of me making a complete ass of myself as the only male would be initiated you know I will see you in background so they can just like this to water from his Jimmy awkward but I survived and I learned a lot and not only in the dance but also in these these meditation Temple lecture philosophy lectures that were given and also we had free reign of this one of the most explicit libraries of collections of books devoted to John Travolta times and so there’s some gems that that I discovered there but you know don’t take my word for it I love to just take this opportunity to have if you can her perspective on that experience in some gaps in my understanding and knowledge because to bring this into the ultimate context it is that that experience led to me producing a track called Rascal that King and I’ll get into that at some point later but basically a Revelations that I’ve had what I felt to be direct Union direct communication with and since then really this track which is a devotional him that uses it and in vocational Mantra as the sort of part of it every time I sing that and with all my heart than she appears and I see her the way that she is you know in a and it in the way that she is symbolically to pick it in the in the art form the classical art form of what’s called who is called crota Kali who is one of the disorder than a police terkini kind of archetypes which Gerald got his students like one of those I’m building my collection of having experiences and then having a toy on my wall I’ll make a track and that track will be my sort of them my Memoir or my Elemento this is way more this is a huge opportunity for me to kind of have you bringing your perspective on on that that experience that we shared there and also bring in some of your more highly developed awareness of the permutations of Buddhism and Tantra and also yeah they just tell us that be great to hear about what brought you to the discovery of that Temple because obviously the story goes back as far as to where you were you know enchanted with their work so that was enough for me. Thank you so much been yes cuz he mentioned I’m devika the ticket on sweetie, I’m so glad that you made this our topic today been just because that’s when those of the extremely unique temple in Portland Oregon and try to swallow who is the dance teacher the primary dance teacher there was our teacher that weekend and he’s been training and Talia make sure you tell sorry since he was a young child so that was in his his lineage for a long time and for me I’ve always been play training quite a bit and vajrayana Buddhist lineages cuz I had to start at my own silent meditation practice I think about on 2007/2008 but Tibetan lineage of always been significant to me because anybody who studies Buddhist studies or you know I’m has a pretty good understanding of a variety of different Buddhist lineage has Bill noticed that a lot of the deities in tibetan and Nepalese certain Nibbley’s lineages don’t really necessarily have presidents are really significant Presence at all in other lineages so you know like the dakinis are seeing a lot you see if I join your guinea is a dominant The Keeney there’s also no preserved and venerated in the in the stands lineage you and I went to training and just like with any veneration or worship of these dakinis is usually requires a lot of Advanced Techniques a lot of persistent training because the dakinis are definitely I always think of them as more intermediary or you know you’d rather just because they’re not really have to be really specific with how you worship and worship them because they can be kind of tricksters in certain ways but they can also also need a lot more respect I think like there’s a lot of benevolent like happy DD’s and then you kind of work up to bother you again other Tiki knees and the kids are wisdom Bears they’re not the really I don’t know if you could say that a surly you know putting some situations where they have to really be as forgiving perhaps they expect I think a lot of a lot of practice in a lot of patients in a lot of determination from those who are who are and worship up they are very much like Kali from the Hindu Hindu spiritual lineage has just because you have to have a certain amount of practice with them you have to have a certain amount of respect them are they able to teach you a lot but if you are not open to learning those lessons you will not get them and sometimes you know like do your lessons by, in ways that look for a coke bad or negative in your life but a trained practitioner or train student even would have the tools to help them kind of navigate those lessons and not to say that the lesson still won’t be hard it’s just that you need to have a certain amount of prerequisite I guess in a way that certain amount of information in order to work with those DVDs in order to really get not just what would be helpful to you both would have also be helpful in respect to them and reminds me of an of what you were saying earlier about you know once a DVD shows up to you if I tell you something that of great assistance you obviously not understand that it’s reciprocal and you get back to that TD and your veneration and respected them so these DVDs are not like practice DVDs are like this introductory DD’s they need they definitely need a certain level of practice and respect and information on behalf of the students are also just not going to get as much out of it either I guess I’ve heard of so many people just want to jump right to DD’s like this in various lineages and a lot of people will caution them and say that you really need to understand the foundational aspects of the practice you’re looking at before you work with them but it really comes down to what people are after like they’re looking for quick fixes or even like something like power or you know something just really just deals mostly with our Earthly realm they’re not going to the store they get what they want or they might get what they want for the beginning but there’s always a price to pay like and you can’t have you know you can’t have an action without a reaction if you’re not setting up the foundation of something properly you’re not setting it up on a you know they’re setting up his Queen on the shaky Foundation at that point and things don’t go too well when you build them on a shaky foundation so I would definitely you know suggest anybody who does want to learn sacred dance forms to look for a proper New Groove for that and Venture for us just make sure they’re taking the proper steps for me I’ve always because of my love for Tibetan Buddhist lineages I really loved my experience at that spent all my hope to go back you know again in the future you know for something similar to what you and I had conferred then I don’t live on the west coast anymore unfortunately but I’m sure I’ll make it back there again it was a beautiful time. Really they just they found such an amazing job with that that’s him pulling the practices that they adhere to their arms it’s certainly is unique and lovely did yeah so thank you for giving that discourse on this parallel and treachery really had no approaching these purses with the wrong attitude or without due diligence and I think my modern check a metaphor that comes to mind is actually I’ve been thinking about this ready contacts but this is this is really right now which is it there’s I think people who approached spirituality as from The New Age kind of Neo perspective of not not really I say beating her asparagus before they eat their ice cream like they want they want to jump right to everything that’s possible and skip over the shadow work but the the more traditional approach would beat you really confront you or your Shadow true the help of the duties that are going to we’re going to help you do that and you know that that is really up for what I’m doing with in my Modern Life sandwich lot of people are just like me they need to do to audit your security and to do penetration testing and to hire hackers to actually try to break into your systems to see what your vulnerabilities are so that you can fix them before real shit hits the fan win some you know and they don’t give you the full report they actually just take everything take your intellectual ransomware your your machines and Edward have a persistent intrusion into your network that you don’t know about until years later when everything that you held dear and sacred was this compromise so that’s that’s how I feel like that if you if you’re afraid of that you’re setting yourself up for ultimate disaster in the future if you’re not willing to approach that Duty with respect you know of those duties you have the potential to print like really sucking hand your ass to you you’re not going to call the spiritual bug bounty system I have another another pun play on words to add to that but but I’ll let you finish okay well yeah it’s it’s from that shamanic perspective of some sort of delousing your soul by removing parasites and I feel like a bug Bounty is even more apps because they would be removing those pests from your soul and all that her that you’re unaware of that are causing you to you know make mistakes in your karmic development so yeah so with that said do you want to talk about now just kind of give people the the play-by-play of we arrive there and do you want to give you a recollection of the the kind of syllabus and of course outline and what what what I experienced was there and what you’re you’re sure I’m just trying to think of it wasn’t that a time ago not going to lie I was a bit of time guys from perfect feeling very magical and just really appreciating it cuz it’s you know what the time I was a fusion belly dancer and I still love dance it’s just you know I had suffered a back injury sometime much time after but I’m just grateful that I at least had that experience the Savannah what that’s meant I’ll be for all that zinnias happens later but you know it is what it is but in terms of doing that Workshop they were so gracious you know they gave us a really great we know we’re right out and see a step-by-step you know the monster has instructions I still have I still loved my portfolio that they gave me like you know I still had a lot and I just I’ve always been very enthusiastic about using the body and worship with dance in expressions of arch just because I always felt like art is about Creative Energy the sacral chakra is about sexual energy and create an anonymous right they are one of the savings people tend to forget that or not really put that together so I always am very enthusiastic about what time you know really creative positive ways of using the body and worship and the style of dance really loud. So do you still have your do you still have your folder from there I do somewhere and I started to look for it but I did I really want to find it because I want to I wanted to be able to I mean I don’t know if you have it handy or if not then we can just going to go from memory but now it rain in front of me but I mean I guess I’ll be glad to do some scanning later so that you can have copy call me buried in somewhere but I really appreciated about that weekend was that possible did start looking into the voucher Eugenie dance ceremony with all so what was amazing as he took us through you know the Preparatory dance which is about paying homage to the DD’s you know and it within the Buddhist contacts before you begin your dance and that he taught us the hand with rose that go with the dances as well which are so important in like a lot of like a lot of Asian dance styles likes you a lot of traditional dance styles this dance tells a story it’s not just the person embodying the DAT in human form sort of so to speak but also if you listen to that at least you know if you don’t understand them on to us but you look at the translations and if you look at what each moves from means and what each motion means it’s all telling a story so that’s beautiful to me I just it was very you know incredible and the fact that we got to look at the photo you can anyone know that’s a lot to me because I was a big part of also why I went there and seen it on YouTube and I understood the even though I was very interested in that dance I knew that we met your most likely not go there necessarily because that is an advanced dance for all the reasons I had previously mentioned about working with dakinis events duties of your guinea but it was really amazing that we actually got to you know try that out and really talk to those who have performed that dance that weekend was so short to me like I just wish you could have stayed there so much longer is really amazing but yeah I’d like the fact that I let me remind you I grew up with folk dances like her up just you know what an absolute Fascination for it so learning about a dance style that does this in worship and in respect of the staties that’s not easy to find that mean you do find it in Hindu Traditions there are so disloyal to do something similar but especially what we were learning that’s $1 you can’t find many teachers who teach that there’s also not very many dance styles like. I’ve heard of another one but I’ve never seen anybody teach it here at least or of the universe within within Canada or the United States so I mean there might be but I haven’t come across up and you need answers for those are any dance teachers for lineage but yeah so I would say those were the Superman highlights eat you recall anything else that really stuck out to you yeah in a few things to do very memorable and then all in complementary to to your thoughts and perspectives on this because she hasn’t much I guess I certainly Richard background in Premiere was pretty much all encountering it for the first time and so I really I think the way to the kind of transmit the experience to others at least verbally and I know you can go on YouTube and and pretty much the same the same dance that we learned I know they have at least one video that’s at least it’s pretty much like that specific sequence of movements and then we also had to learn to sing the parts that weren’t we at we were we were trained to not just learn actual poses and the sequence of the positions moving along the dance floor but actually singing the appropriate the Mantra portion of it at being every every every time we transition to another movement we’re actually seeing saying the devotional sort of launcher him about what that position really is representing and and I got think of it it’s like a 3-D lives motion to wear if you’re used to approach you are you just sitting there making I mean I don’t suggest your secondary and you’re making offerings and you’re doing gestures in your doing Luger’s but you’re just so this is like imagine being this coming good multidimensionality of the and the offering aspect of it of that the energy that you’re pouring into the the ritual that being the just night and day in terms of the difference between the seated meditative offering to Pooja and I’m spinning around and holding your arms up and just being as graceful as you could ever imagine everybody being and also that it was just beautiful so maybe if you could you know from just some of the Physicians remember I remember there was like a little drama and the big drum and offering incense and they were all basically kind of like I feel like a mime you know remind me out these emotional offerings and so from that experience well I knew I hadn’t said this earlier but I was going to say I know you said that you felt like you know a fish out of water I think it’s what you said earlier you know it wasn’t really being a dude they’re just being a guy and then he was a good teacher is a guy but it’s so cool though this type of worship or any worship I always go back to looking at who are you doing as for right it’s all the times you doing is to please a deity or you know to show appreciation respecting the really that’s all that’s asked you know of you write like to show up and to do it like when I first learned silent meditation for example my teacher would always say it never gets easier right like there’s there will always be a time where it becomes difficult but the what’s being asked to use to show off that’s the devotional part right that’s the part where even if you’re learning to do something for the first time that’s still so pivotal because you’re still doing that with that intention of federation respect and worship that’s really that really is all it’s being asked of you know set it right and I’m sure it influenced also how you’ve continued to worship right and it’s become a part of your experience in various ways they honestly that’s all often lets its really often people really in people don’t necessarily here that often or that’s not something that comes up I mean we are so used to I think it’s also speak about this from growing up you know like a lot of people in various religions they are asked to do so much but might be things that they’re not willing to do necessarily like maybe you know ask to Worship in a certain way like I mean don’t get me wrong like obviously poo just have to place a certain religions and their needed by people who really need them but I always wondered what why aren’t we teaching people these these artistic forms of worship to like I remember reading in the Hindu Pantheon there was 52 artistic expressions or skills that are considered sacred and her people to maintain and a lot of those were artistic like a lot of them were of a poetry and about dance and artistic expression and I think you know technically speaking and I’m seeing a lot of this and dance movements across the world the idea that in order to move into express yourself through your body and whatever way that you can through your body enter your mind isn’t itself but I can’t worship so I mean whether or not let’s say somebody continues with a particular sacred lineage and learn to do that dance Tyler whether they go through life and you know it’s a inspiration from these lineages but then set off and kind of do something that comes to them naturally it’s all relative it’s all important right so you know so so as I talked about this you know for example sorry I missed you may not be for a surly everybody write a lot of people might not let’s say how the Buddhist context behind them or might it might not resonate with them but there could be something else right there can always be something else for those people instead I think that’s the interesting thing about tantric practice right like there’s so many lineages making really look towards and I think I still stand behind the concept but I think there are tajuk lineages and every religion It’s just sometimes they don’t make it to the mainstream literature of those religions so you know I think when people do enough taking and hold their beliefs strong things will come to that you know like it there’s a meeting halfway that sense to happen during the person needs to keep the the principles in the pillars of their belief system close to their heart and you know I threw those pillars and I do believe that as a go long information will come to that message will come to the right forms of practice for them come to them you know it’s it’s that’s why I always say to trust your instincts like 50 people I always tell them it’s very important to learn how to trust yourself and learn from yourself and learn with your intuition and stinks look like because that’s how all of the Divine speaks to you right mind you and protist lineages the Divine in the profane are the same thing and that’s the way I see you too so I think when people create that’s Schism that also kind of friends that I don’t put them until amount of conflict because once you start looking at everything a sacred I think that’s a huge part of town tourism and it can be very hard to keep thought police in mind but I think a good teacher too and you know good foundational set of training really help since unfortunately sometime and take a people you know who emailed me and they’re like well I can’t find a teacher in my area or you know where do I learn this way this without all that from you know lineages explains that or practices AT&T because I don’t know anybody around me that says says and that’s a big part of why I decided to do online training for people like that’s why I have my own coaching program but at the same time I also understand where they’re coming from and sometimes it’s not going to come right away you just got to keep doing what you can from your end and eventually you never know what’s going to happen right but because that’s what I was saying earlier patience is a huge thing like people want results of people want answers now but that’s not always the way things are going to go that’s not always waiting for intended to go so patients in the South can be quite the lesson with your original but I know you were talking about the moon and the aspect of the mechanics and curious if you remember any of it cuz there’s a few movements that I had that all all old mansion after after you kind of give a natural fit for you or anything that you felt like you had it with mantras in motion as you’ve mentioned earlier and Irene the ones that stuck out to me or kind of similar to the ones you had mentioned earlier about like the instruments for example the certain Mutual represented let’s say things about those titi’s hold so I just so they want to say if they’re always tools but they’re like certain symbolic objects that BT’s are known to hold and we did do address to represent those as well right call really amazing and I think with a lot of these sacred lineages you are going to get a lot of enactment of you know sacred objects even animals sometimes are adornments of that signify the DD that you’re that you’re talking about is that you’re looking at not just the costuming to fix that but like I think the big thing is for me at least when I see these dance styles I think of the fact that even if that person was not wearing Me labra costume you could still tell from what they’re Universal symbolism that they’re gesturing and that they’re doing through their dads you can tell who it is at their embodying at the time I think I’m a big part of why those hundreds Rose and certain motions you know kind of really show that like for example one really cares about you use uni dance she does a lot of circular motioning to kind of signify the traveling to the sky and to the universe which is absolutely beautiful but there’s thought type of movement that was very particular and specific to that Dede because she’s a Sky Dancer right so yeah they’re really thought out and really carefully put together and not just even composed but performs and that’s why it takes so many years to learn these Stan Stylez I mean that’s also why you’d want to teach her like prajwal for example who been doing has been doing this since he was a child so yeah it is absolutely beautiful and very rare and amazing when you come across these things if you know whether the person who has been studying since they were a child or has dedicated a lot of their life to studying it it’s all amazing to see when you do get in to see the answer to that’s given their whole body to the dance it’s not just emotions cuz you see that sometimes but you don’t doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s wrong or anything but I know I personally and everything to is when people are in that stage it doesn’t mean to always be on that stage at some point I think a dancer does give all their body into it if they really stay with us you know but yeah but it’s so nice to see it when you do see that person fully embodying and fully giving themselves into it because they are they are professional they know how to do that and I know how to get out of it to write it’s like it’s like magic to me appointment I was safe for me what what was most profound about the specific movements was when he introduced the wrathful deity respective dancing in he did some demonstrations of some stuff that we didn’t actually we’re actually taught but he basically did some more you know in some of his lectures she would just break out into the accompanying dance to go along with the lecture and what not Inn in one of the things you know he was doing was acting out the wrathful basically acting out but being invoking the possession trance state of of the wrathful deity or raffle. and that so that aspect plus the aspect of something that we did learn specifically in in the dance in a very subtle form but a very elegant and subtle but very telling kind of corn was this notion of stomping and you see this in the artwork with his notion of stomping on the demons to basically Crush but with wood gray sexy you’re not you’re invoking the power of the wrathful deities and to me that is the the psychotherapeutic aspect in the the really applied sort of shamanistic aspect of it yes we’re to put in simple terms are too kind of hopefully not not butcher hit by put in my own words it’s just that you know where we’re almost like children in the sandbox of human bodies and higher level of development and what we can actually obtain him in one lifetime for most people is pretty pretty remedial relative to the grandiosity of these deities that probably live a lot longer than we do maybe have been around a lot longer and have a lot more mobility throughout the dimensions and are just wiser creatures and their kind of entertained by us and our our Folly and we would do well to choose where do I track them to our sacred spaces so that they can help us to with our issues and not only help us feel good and have health and you know abundance of things we pray for but also that they have us to have Liberation from our own foolishness and Karma is insulated things that are beyond our control and obviously all of the very nuanced forces of evil and so these are some of the few Living Traditions in the world where there’s a sun broken Pagan shamanic power that comes from your new worshiping these duties so that you could have bacon come in and really rescue you like you’re a prisoner of war Behind Enemy Lines you know I’m in that tactical perspective was what turn me on the most was this notion of like yeah you can do is dance and you’re you were basically borrowing or asking for the power to do this astral combat sort of work and so love to hear what you would say about the exact number is Dancing with the holding the hips in a certain angle and this beautiful images of the blessings were stepping backward and stopping by The Chieftains and then knowing that you can access the Rascal that would that would make you know bad guys you know one or Retreat I think if they sell you do then you’re doing that in a dark alley and they wanted to have they had their way with you or take your money or something and then you could just like bust out into this wrathful deity dance you know that they probably would will be yeah I’ll be there cue to exit stage left now the funny thing usually has a few different like you know associations with it and I mean it’s so cathartic first of all did you feel like did you feel like it was cathartic when you yeah it’s beautiful because it really reconnect you to the earth into the ground and I mean as we’re looking at this to think it’s important to realize and Buddhist lineages demons are an evil are representative of ignorance right so that goes back to was Buddhism that there’s no Duality everything is one and the idea what these DD’s if they’ve stuck around a lot of times because they’re very compassionate and they want to help people overcome ignorance so that bacon understand the true Unity of everything so when we think of D you know I think of demons and evil that’s her thing they’re all aspects of the illusion of the samsara that we exist in this world is called samsara and in Buddhism and as we’re doing these things we’re dispelling ignorance if you actually look at the story of Siddhartha the first grew at the first of the sorry it was a guru actually how you know in the way his final like in his final test he had demons coming at him it was just like really torturous listen to Star comfortable and he was sitting under the Bodhi Tree trying to just meditate what eventually be reached Enlightenment after all these tests in the past really where about Stevenson these distractions so it’s it’s interesting to me because the demons correlate with you know our obvious concerns about horrible things happening so like you no ill health poverty and disease famine everything right and this is why it takes so long to do these practices until really dedicate ourselves to these teachings because firm understandably so for many of us as humans we understand that these things are painful and we don’t want paying we want to avoid paying obviously nobody wants to hear wake up tomorrow usually and be like oh well I just want to be in pain all day you know and the only the only thing I find in Buddhism is that it acknowledges this pain and tries to help people with understanding a different way of living with it are experiencing the things in this world to like part of the wisdom of Buddhism the stock concept of yes there is pain but there is also have two ending up suffering while on this Earth while experiencing this pain so I have full appreciation for Buddhist teachers practitioners you know and everyone else between who is able to see past the illusions that we experience the moment-to-moment basis of pain and suffering and all of that and I think when we see that foot stomping and we see that sort of you know the spelling of evil I always look at it and remember remind myself as a big part of that is we are asking for the removal of the veil of ignorance and illusion we’re trying to understand how to live with the things that happen in our lives like apparently even like the Buddha after he preached Enlightenment I’ve heard and that one lineage that he had a really bad back problems still so you would never immune to like even physical suffering and stuff but he knew how to overcome it in his mind like yours and it is being so this really Buddhism when it comes down to it it’s all about perception and so how we’re living in reminds me of something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately which is how imprisonment happens within our own minds and even when we’re giving horrible circumstances Buddhism is really teach us about how to overcome the Carmine’s like there’s no guarantee that anyting long has really changed in our physical world right we we have what we have not stopped at type thing and wheel you can continue to strive to overcome those things of course but it starts with the mind and the mentality and how we perceive what we are given so I always think about these things because when we go to learn any sacred dance is always important of course as I mentioned before to understand the foundational tools prayers mantras and these kids move drugs principle Solutions you know all of these things the Theology of these practices before we go in because you don’t like what side of meditation like all of these practices I think they’re mostly beneficial to people when they understand the foundations that they came from but even just sometimes I think understanding it is one part of it but I think practicing these things before doing it is also helpful because something could the cool from the outside your cards right but I think when we get the taste of something that we like the safer for you and myself like we love this and style it can Inspire us to continue to learn about these practices and these principles and I think for anybody who is interested in anything like this or a meditation or any practice it’s good to know themselves through these practices that I can pay also definitely need to work on it not just from the dance practice or from the meditation practice they need to understand the whole kit and caboodle you know they need to really find a teacher who can teach them the principles in the foundation’s to go with these things because learning the axum self that doesn’t do the practice justice so I mentioned only because so you’re going to get a lot of people who might you know find the semi-finals practice interesting and just like people come to us with interest about tantrism but they have to understand that they’re their studies don’t start and stop at the process themselves they have to go and learn the whole thing like they really do I don’t think it’s enough just to let stay with the Kamasutra like you can’t just learn the sex positions for example and just ignore the fact that there’s a whole ton of writing in there and principles that I personally don’t agree with but let me remind you the Kama Sutra isn’t really a tantric Doctrine to be honest lot of people don’t know but you know like I think anybody who’s going to dedicate themselves to these things really need to do themselves a good service of just you know learning all of it so I’m glad you’re doing this podcast you know we’re both doing this because I think I was looking at all of these positions and we’ll talk about the monster has I hope it inspires people to look more into these lineage is especially like the vajrayana Buddhist lineages but that the stats all came from right and that this dance Auburn resents don’t know more social Moore Public kind of expression of love so much more in her work so we could see the the sort of a I mean it’s almost like the way people joke about how I made it in North America there is this tendency for white New Age speakers european-american European secrets to they want to go and they want to get their Indian name and they want to get the play one that hold the pipe and they they want to have all these very conspicuous consumption kind of trinkets that that show off their affiliation and may or may not really be based on the deepest most sincere interest in her work as soon as you’re speaking about this I think about how you know I I I casually made a reference to karate kid earlier about looking at the Karate Kid archetype of basically looking at how westerners it stored traditional practices in general and so the other the other aspect if I was the Cobra Kai School you had like basically the corrupted and ego-based and and aggressive rather than defensive Distortion that was the result of the US military Sergeant or whoever the guy Kris being like a a Vietnam War kind of super else you took the his spin on on Karate and then you get this hyper masculine toxic mask on aggressive abusive patriarchal system and I feel like there is a people who have people have horror stories of training with male just say it’s mostly you know male who were going to actually be using black magic to mine front and brainwash people and take their money and build Empires on abuse and but they will still be teaching you beautiful positions and beautiful words everything will feel and look very beautiful and he helps but you could be being totally totally scam do you know so that’s part of what I think what you’re saying is I think you did the good research and you you would position me to have that experience with cars wall and you know the teacher who is to me like the most beautiful one of the most beautiful men embodiment of the development of this is the this is the extreme potential of the development of a man’s feminine aspect and you don’t have to be you will appreciate it even if your not gay and that I think it’s like I want more I want I would love them he said also about the feel like they’re in the ancient you would be as a man very it wouldn’t be a pretty story of to be emasculated it would be a gift and you will be seeing it is so complimentary and actually help you to have that contrast but have that balance so so yeah very instructive in general but that’s close to wrapping up in something I want to highlight yeah but when I’m at one of the lecturers at Fresh wall gave the two it was a lot of really potent teachings and one of the things that stood out to me the most it was most kind of maybe the quintessential teaching of of the whole weekend and the quintessence of the path it seemed like he was using the words mudra and use the word mudra and it’s in a contest at her before that made sense if I move a posture of your you know could be your just your hands or could be your hands and or parts of the body in concert but basically you’re holding a position that is indicating a certain alignment and a certain attitude really in so that if you extrapolate that to you or your whole lifestyle and your spiritual path he said there was that you can live basically by these two options in life either the karmamudra or the German Luger and the any put it very elegantly saying that you know if you see you Wednesday in the karmamudra which is basically scratching your head at while your life is constantly throwing things are going wrong for you and we should be there just kind of piling things under the basically living and just like shoving things under the rug and not not doing the work to purify your actions in any thoughts and deeds you know what not but where is but he would say Obviously most people in a less conscious state or are just regurgitating there cameras in the cycle but then the the the higher Road or the narrow road to the alternative is to live in what he called that was the simplest I’ve ever heard I mean what the thing is that we will she’s like do things that make other people smile you know what I mean anyway do that that’s up for Street much should golden miles did I produce today up or down on the charts you know my going to meet you like up the game tomorrow with getting more smells out there and so I just want to let that be my my last homage from this podcast to what I what I try to do partial out there man I’m done and I’m doing it with her before we wrap up to I just wanted to quickly mention as well I’m bringing such a good point about gender because a beautiful thing about casualties in this is he represents a perfect non-duality in terms of gender fluidity right he is obviously been gifted disability through his lineage has to represent male and female TTS right and he does it so eloquently and so perfectly and it reminds me of these gender divisions that we’ve seen is very much within North American and Western European constructs right the way gender is performed and represented across cultures aren’t necessarily but we’re used to seeing right and I think when we see something as beautiful as what we see and in this dance lineages and within Buddhism actually shows up quite often in a lot of Eastern theology in a spiritual Traditions it’s a concept that help me cuz that’s within us all qualities of any gender and non-gender the we can think of and I do hope that we see more of a returning that in our side I kind of feel like we’re starting to see this and what kind of looking towards shamanic lineages and I think of a lot of Tibetan lineages of thought because they do have shamanic a shamanic Origins which is why a lot of Tibetan in Nepalese protist lineages look a bit different than let’s say Chinese Korean and Japanese go to sleep just so it’s very beautiful to see this understanding in a compass and respect of all types of energy whether we are going to look at them has male female or nonbinary don’t by now it’s quite beautiful too beautiful return to that yes awesome of that thank you for that I’m sorry I’m so do you have any others actually yeah it’d be nice to just get a bit of an update from you if you want to close out the section on desk that’s why I just have to get an update from you on what’s been happening what’s on your mind what are you looking forward to what are you preparing for the future but people message me because they wants like I can still and I appreciate that so much and well the thing is I don’t know if I told you this I certified and Yoni steaming right and I was on the directory for steamy chick I wholeheartedly recommend just temporarily take me off because I’m so busy right now in my studies I don’t have time right now unfortunately the couch as much as I feel like that’s what she is part of my calling like I’m always torn between digital activism and my calling as a Tums Rica and I never want to not skip my time low supposed because I don’t have the time and energy right now but you know in about it’s a year-and-a-half I hope to really go back to holistic healing go back to holistic sexual education and you know really go back to me because a big part of that for me is understanding sexual freedoms online which has been so constricted lately in the last couple years and I think one of the worst times for online sexual expression under the Trump Administration I will go too much of that I think you know our previous previous podcast definitely talk more about that but anyways long story short of it I was saying about a year-and-a-half I will go back into training and teaching people and I will very much consider doing like one hour coaching session cuz I was really offering. so much before but I know people as you have one on questions of that sort of thing so I think it was just you know be helpful that way the only reason I didn’t offer it so much before was because as much as I am intuitive coach and counselor in that sense of spiritual counselor I also feel like a lot of the times you can give people information but if they’re not consistently working. Just like we’re time on this podcast they’re not doing a deep dive. Information is initially I was going to help them that takes a quite a long time to alter habits and to really reflect on one’s mindset NCL thinking process so I was offering will sleep just three months before but I think I also have to acknowledge this fast-paced world we live in an offer something more within intuitive counseling but definitely differentiate between my coaching and that’s the type of Lionel advice-giving just because to be there at the same they’re both helpful in their own ways but I really do appreciate when I get to work with people on a long-term basis but yeah I think offering advice and help is also really good too and has its place is so we’ll see what happens in a year and a half from now but I look forward to serving our other people and Humanity in that realm of things again soon you know I miss it so that’s pretty much what I’m doing and I know I’m just I am grateful for my studies because I think it will always help me become a better size of think of it as a civil servants to to humanity as we how are who are helping people but I do know the Earth in general are who is just you know intend to do good but yes I I just I do miss talking to people about our work so get back into that mix then really all of these new crypto rails will be running smoothly so you can not have any just going to it’s going to be smooth operating globally to do what we do and not have to be choked off by Banks or or big data or any of the centralized choke point so that’s very exciting will keep in touch about all that indefinitely always feel free to if you don’t mind I have kind of a fetish that’s like a around using academic work that’s done basic p like I have I feel like it’s a real tragedy all of the all of the the college work University work that’s done to just get a a grade in a class and like no one ever been at work ever see the light of day so yeah if you ever have papers that you write that only are red by you and your professor if they don’t own if they allow you to retain the copyright ownership do that then by all means I love for you to share some of your work would read it as great or I can read it or whatever but that would just be able to give more life to the work that you’re doing as you’re doing it so sweet omigod thank you Patty before I do go I should let you know I did do an online project and it was on The Witches of Instagram and the active is the first through that so if you want to take a look at that that’s online which activism. but you are so which activism. C a r r g. Co after but that was a huge project for me I’m inspiring I’m still in the undergraduate you know level of things with everything but I wasn’t that simple logical digital anthropological project I did really available for people to read if they want to I just looked at activism efforts through Instagram with entrepreneurial witches who use Instagram as one of the social media Outlets within a cock of other outlets of course it was mostly fake stuff focusing on like you know Instagram not just on Facebook or something like that but because I love Instagram I think it’s really helped a lot of those witches with in North America but I was also looking at algorithmic homogeneity in that project as well looking at how you got does diaper rash eclectic group of people but when you look at their representation through hashtag feeds like witches of Instagram’s hashtag feed you just seeing very specific types of representation switch that doesn’t really help the community this isn’t over like an overarching issue we’re having were influencers are starting to kind of represents the same things look the same like they’re expected to look similar ways and you know that diversity kind of gets lost in the shuffle for communities like this which is breakfast like this community represents diversity so seeing how it’s represented in juxtaposition to what it actually looks like you’re so kind of a music gap there and a lot has to do with the way algorithms prioritize what is considered a witch and what is it considered when they decide to show up in the yeah Which Wich activism. Card with two r’s. Co I think it is being a sex which is very I think important to to this and I think that was what led me to this and just looking at how content producers who create content similar to what you and I create and how are work it’s treated vs. you know quote on quote acceptable ways of that sucks it’s becoming more problematic and I think it needs to be addressed and this is also why I was talked about but I think tajuk lineages need to be institutionalized and somebody to protect our beliefs speak of our beliefs kind of cat Trampled Under the carpet and I’m not okay with that so I think it’s also I received an increase in witchcraft in the US and why we’re understanding it more as an acceptable form of spiritual practices always has been but you know well you know what history looks like so I’m just glad to see him searching some that and understandings of people going toward religious practices or spiritual practices allow for self-expression in sexual Freedom especially when we’re referring to what we do specifically this really makes me feel a lot better about myself because I’m starting to really wonder like what’s wrong with me why don’t I watch a lot of boring what everybody else is in the morning I’m just kind of like I’m not with it like what’s wrong with me and really it’s because I really more interested in things like digital anthropology on sex witches and that’s why I don’t like I said I guess there’s nothing nothing makes you feel good right like you know what you know and of course it’s obviously not harming other people or whatever it’s something that makes you happy do it right like I I live very much in my own on my own standards and in my own head and you know a lot and whether or not people you know agree with me but doesn’t it’s none of their business as far as I’m concerned that you mean a lot of people who Venture you don’t think like you and you do feel same way as you there they just haven’t had a chance to explore does Mater you know so I think that’s where you and I come in like we help people really kind of put more to thought so they’ve already had or the concepts they’ve already considered on their own and really help them flush it out to something that works in their life right sorry about a stack the survival weapon project that I created his basic beat and in an answer to what you propose there which is it I’m I’m using the the the youthful beauty of the younger witch population to be the Trojan Horse that leads people to the elderly witches who need our support and need money to survive and to keep their lineages transmitting and so there’s that’s that’s kind of in my cauldron that’s issue that I want to help address and it’s interesting that your tablet you probably have a lot to offer and now in that regard as well and so you’ll probably be a consultant on that project at some point with this let me know I didn’t mind you I there’s so many ways you can further that project to with you know if any of those older witches want to do some more work has the other witches that you have right now like whether it’s like modeling with us we’re thinking I definitely say go out there and do it to like let them do their thing too because there’s such a diversity of what people admire and appreciate and are attracted to it’s certainly not just in these one you know that we think of the one ways of just like you know the young attractive conventionally attractive person but I’m starting to really see Prophet not just Prim just profit would like go public interest in a variety of different types of body types and ages and genders are non gender is like there’s this all out there and then you offer up the ability of expression two people love not just the one type of Hollywood asks a type of Attraction you know that type of physical look you start initiating and when U Niche there is a lot of profit in that too but there’s also a lot of appreciation for it to social appreciation so I say if you’re if you’re going to do a Witch Project where you know you have people presenting themselves and expressing themselves in a certain way I think I invite you to consider having all your wishes have that option just because like I said that there is a market there is there are people who want that it’s just all in the marketing it’s all in how you present the project there a lot of people who made things very profitable and very popular because it was unique and it might not seem too lucrative at first but because of how they persisted and how they put forward that message they started obtaining you know of the large followership like for example with suicide girls I mean there’s always been attraction for women with tattoos alternative goth looks and alternative looks in general but the way they grew that was quite interesting than amazing to watch because that there was was the way they Market at me know when they branched off into other things from my understanding and Jack real asking you know so yeah I think I don’t know I think if you have it saved which is who are at all interested in Creative expressing themselves or in expressing themselves in a specific way I say give them all the shot you know just find what works again oh what what’s working another rounds and see if you can find satistics or data on that and find ways to Market those that are let’s say unique in their own ways you know I’m just going to think I’ll help a lot like you’re going to get a lot of people liking different things and it comes to town tourism I think there is a lot of ways to express interest in new forms of artistic forms it’s just finding those Creative Marketing and promotional ways of doing it right it’s a good thing and you can always have the sexy tikini body masseuses but like you have some really cool priestesses who to like new churches and they might not look like those to keeney’s but there are sexy in their own ways and they’re appealing and motivational and magnetic in their own ways you know and just about sexy or whatever we think of a sexy in this continent in the society write a lot of different ways of going about things we are charged with meanings and ways of having to extend beyond just what’s in front of us and in the Intercontinental exceed those limitations surpassed them and find creative ways to bring charges on my think two people because it certainly goes beyond just whatever sound like pornhub or Google I don’t know why I have a sex cells but it certainly it’s high so well until we can talk about this whole time like they’re so much depth and print there so many principles a lot of information that are easy to access but if he can find artistic ways of expressing that information that’s not easy to access too that’s all so amazing and you even be very much so so thank you again for your time everything and look forward to the next time and what would be the best way for people to follow your work now or I would say Instagram is still really good I mean there’s also YouTube in both cases just looking up Taki the ticket on speaker on YouTube and Instagram but yeah I’m active on Instagram these days cuz microblogging takes less time but I also like right now like I find it still a much more free or social media outlets in most are you know at the moment I will again thank you so much have a wonderful rest of your evening and this is a real treat. 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In this episode I share a recording of a recent introduction to permaculture talk I gave at the grand opening of a new home scale goddess temple where I have been working with a team of dear friends to design and install gardens and ecosystemic designs. In the talk I combine guided meditation with an exploration of some of the basic philosophies and principles and key terms taught in the permaculture design system.
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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved podcast episode number 114 this episode is a recording of a lecture I gave recently it was a permaculture design introduction talk that I gave at a a new permaculture goddess temple in the works that I’m helping to co-develop with some dear friends and that should be the home of quite a number of really exciting activities and programs and projects so more will be forthcoming on that but I thought I would share this with the podcast listeners it’s really most of my day job and clean green Prana energy comes from and where the way that I’m able to stay positive and hopeful and connected to Gaia and really recharge and reconnect and this is just a really kind of meditative reverie exploring the philosophies and the science and mechanics of permaculture from a broad stroke perspective and I hope you enjoy them also going to end with the inclusion of a poem I wrote several years ago which is kind of been to the guiding pass the groove that I carved out and intentionally to to be on and it’s cuz the poem called permaculture goddess Temple so I hope you enjoy your stay before change the overhead does anyone want to talk about what comes to mind when they hear that word I say that word New Guinea it is that exactly definition keywords best films haikus so it’s actually a contraction it’s kind of like a clever marketing Instagram like instant or whatever that would be its permanent culture permanent agriculture does are two different interchangeable sort of ways of looking at it. The founder came up with back in the mid-seventies early to mid-seventies in Australia little bit about 2 or so there was a beautiful man whose name was Bill Mollison he passed away not too long ago and so I have a moment of silence to thank him for putting all this body of this body work together may you rest in peace but not for too long cuz you needed to come back and yeah in the next life so there’s many things to say about Bill Mollison he was definitely a head of course the vibration a lot of people would say he was a prickly pear he likes to push people’s buttons and get under the skin and really agitate people’s assumptions about everything about the way we grow food the way we were late to the land the way we use resources and build physical structures and economic systems political systems he is very critical and he learned that I’d stay here in the right to be very critical because he works he was a logger so he spent a lot of time destroyer in the forest and got to be intimately aware of how destructive that that practice was and he worked as a naturalist he was a professor he has he had an amazing woman that’s just the tip of the iceberg his level of particular study of the natural world is really unmatched I think by almost anyone else so he definitely has put in the hours to to have the strong opinions and the without going too much into his personal life story that the real take home about his life’s work that led to the development of this teaching program called permaculture design it was really his understanding that the simplest most glaring most disastrous sort of inescapable fact of what’s wrong with just the food system agricultural food system right it’s it’s I’m going to I’m going to help us I’m going to guide us to that realization the same realization that you know that he came to that he has popularized through his words and it’s nice to take this journey in the form of the meditation so if you close your eyes and just drop into your body a bit and take some deep breaths in through the nose out through the mouth taking your time feeling a breath go deep into the the deli you can even put your hand on on your belly to feel the belly expand as the the Deep regrets get is as far as they can and just anchor yourself into your observation into the smells the sounds of the environment that were surrounded by and even internal Sensations intuitions visions there’s so many different visitor information and we can pay attention to helps to drop into the meditative state to be able to start to explore the inner and outer environments this is a one of the key instruments in the permaculture design system is to enter a meditative state to observe and we’ll talk more about that later but what I want to set up in your imagination in your mind’s eye is a juxtaposition of imagery on one side you can pick the side doesn’t matter which side but can one side of your cinematic display your theater of imagination conjure the images of modern industrial agriculture factory farm cafo operations Mass fields of just one single crop being grown for one cycle of production in replanting on an annual basis you have this very highly program systematized mechanized chemicalize human engineered system that is our modern so-called conventional IE not traditional and not organic the conventional way of farming in the modern world based on chemical fertilizers chemical pesticides herbicides and machine and animal labor mostly and also slave labor and that’s a really desolate landscape a degrading landscape is constantly being depleted and is ultimately turn into a sterile functionally sterile desert that is the non-regenerative unsustainable and very recent very patriarchal pattern of forcing the will of mechanized production onto a landscape with a certain set of intentions that will will will ponder the intentions later but for now it’s just really the sink into that imagery this concentration camp of mechanized control where everything originally on the landscape is displaced there’s no competition allowed there can be no other forms of life in this entire agricultural landscape that isn’t allowed so there’s Spencer’s up. Poisons there’s traps there’s just the thoughtless careless destruction of all life and habitats by trucks and airplanes and machines and even the sound pollution with save all the different machines at work creating this hellish environment that’s where our food comes from and if you look at the esoteric side of that or the the so-called spiritual side of that there’s also the implications of what does vibrations of pain and suffering how those affect the atomic structure is the Quantum building blocks of the food that we consume so I invite you to breathe that out that’s a really kind of polluted gnarly funky 5222 whole your mind’s eye and just sort of exhale that out Excel that toxic experience out and no turn to the opposite side in your mind’s eye and we’re going to be like Bob Ross and we’re going to paint and natural landscape where we’re going to discover a few things together so some happy trees and I’m so glad this isn’t skipping a generation you you’re getting a mean so much to me an idea I want us to live in ecological Landscapes that Bob Ross himself to assist your heart with his rendered for us as the landscape design Architects oh if we look at a natural ecosystem on the land would say where there is Bluegrass some open Prairie type gland some ponds and lakes and streams and rivers and just the zoom out as far as you have to in your mind’s eye to be able to get a really good picture of mountains and valleys in river deltas and all these different unique overlapping systems within systems all functioning without any human intervention or perhaps with indigenous traditional human intervention it’s almost invisible you wouldn’t even know that it’s being tended or garden because it looks so wild and so natural and so on an ordered so on programming so wild and I’m free and resilient soap if we sin of zoom in now from having taken in that larger expansive a snapshot of nature functioning on its own we can observe a number of very important functional system elements that we can start to apply to the damage Landscapes that were inheriting in the modern world of post industrial chemical agriculture we can actually start taking that Bob Ross Bob Ross brush and and paint some of those systems back onto and graft and borrow from the functioning natural systems borrow the deprince the engineering principles more than you know some of the seeds some of the wildcrafted herbs in one pot but but we want to leave while nature it is an indigenous maintain wild natural ends as intact as possible but we can just understand it spend time studying it and we can actually begin to repair what was on the other side so does anyone want to describe what some of the things that come out into the Mind’s Eye when you look at when you zoom in to the point where a grassland or a prairie begins to transition into a woodland for a forest what does that look like in your mind’s eye anyone Bueller damn you said a magic word in there but I’m going to come back to us so thank you anyway any other observations about this history of from overlapping transition between the grassland and the Woodland the people involved these are people coming together creating a new land using the old resources into the year black people any other thoughts are observations about this this world we’re looking at contrast the Shadows face so the magic word that was spoken and thank you for all those brush Strokes the magic word that was spoken that to one of the most important keywords in the permaculture design system is that weird Edge and in this context it’s used to draw attention to that point of transition between two different types of ecosystem sometimes you’ll hear this called biomes or ecotone there’s different ecology ecological scientific terms and pick that are used get too much into detail on those but the more broad concept is that as a rule as a a constant in nature you’re pretty much always guaranteed to see a higher density of life-forms mostly cooperating together to create conditions conducive to more life so let’s life’s mission statement is exemplified in his Edge zones where you see a maximum density does beneficial interrelationships wear some species that require shade or being shaded by species that have brought her leave but safe so there’s also a species that require certain elements to be in the soil that they can’t get by any other means they have to cuddle up two species that would provide that and also all of the different Dynamics within the soil and the Dynamics of pests in predator and prey consumers decomposers and producers so many different interacting relationships and more of those relationships are happening where that grasslands meets the forest and you have a sort of diagonal tapering gradient effect going from the ground up to the trees and so now I’m going to zoom in even closer in an essay There’s an opportunity or equal in inches that cluster at these Edge zones for example Vines can grow up there’s still sunlight hitting that outer edge of the forest but once you get into that Forest it’s mostly shaded out so there’s very little of growing on the forest floor because the taller upper canopy of the trees is pretty much consuming all the sunlight and you occasionally see little glaives openings in Forest systems where you’ll see light coming in in life starting over the new little little little system of edges is coming together so you know next time you’re out in the in the wilderness you see what it looks like to be a cluster of Life standing out in the landscape it could be a low point in a valley a low point in a canyon where you see well it’s totally green resolve Lush where there’s a trickle of water to sustain in a year-round there’s lots of that around Southern California and you can see that oh well there is an opportunity for multiple like infinite potential diverse interactions among species that are meeting at these edges so that’s the polar opposite of what we have become accustomed to in this industrial agricultural model and you know if we put if we put our childlike inquisitive curious minds to it we might actually shed the blind assumptions in the Serta zombie-like acceptance of well anything technological better anything human engineer to Superior whatever is in the man says is the way it’s got to be if we just in the state of meditation find it easier to just question gently question what’s wrong with this picture what’s wrong with how the commercialized agricultural Industries have I sort of completely lost the ability to understand how biological production happens on Earth so here’s a simpler way to kind of make a joke out of it so does it does a forest need people to come out and fertilize it I know right somehow it fertilizes itself does it need people to come out and water it with irrigation or does it somehow manage and maintain moisture levels sufficient to stay hydrated in Grove times of life I mean very dense High productive life no no no fertilizer no irrigation does it need people to come out and plant it to constantly manage it to pull weeds in to make sure that everything grows by standing over it and fighting off all the birds and all the critters to keep them from eating the seeds in from ruining your garden or attacking your basal or whatever you know no it just magically it’s the essence of the forest building nature of our planet that foresting nature of our planet figured out how to intelligently dare I say consciously Pole from these abundant resources sunlight moisture the minerals in the soil the decaying organic material in the soil and to create a symphony and Orchestra of potentially infinite stacked layers of species all ultimately creating a balance within that analogy is used riding a bike at 6 it’s resilient it’s constantly responding to weather changes and droughts and floods and all these different changing parameters but on the whole it’s very resilient and of course if we were to measure what’s called biomass measure the weight of the biomass of that wild forest ecosystem and compare it to a cornfield which is going to win which is going to be heavier in production it’s the national forest ecosystem in part of the reason for that there’s a few things I’ll break it down you know but part of the reason for that one I’ll just list a few but few points of way white how is that possible why is that well the forest is stacking layers vertically it’s not just one single tree crop is not an orchard is not a Orchard or just one single type of tree is not a it’s not a field of one bean or grain perceived it’s not to a patch of a certain type of lettuce that is only one species in an entire massive ecosystem which has the potential to capture how much sunlight so verdict the vertical trellising the way that nature makes you Civ the aspect of the way the sun comes down and it’s in his before in his to ground it it it consumes life will eat up and consume as much of that sunlight is it possibly can and it will grow on top of and an intertwining entangle and fueled this Stairway to Heaven together in this beautiful Orchestra and Symphony of a corporation in order to maximize the potential for life so the vertical aspect of important the other another aspect is at it’s not just producing one vegetable or fruit or sieved Etc product one time in a year to then be tilled in be stagnant there’s so many different interlocking layers they’re producing all of those things at staggered in different times throughout the year so you have multiple yields this is another key word in permaculture is the gold one of the goals is to always obtain a yield so the yield the weight of one annual production of what’s a corn from a monoculture monoculture meaning one plant on the Landscaping plan to it’s very little it has very little weight because it’s only happening once a year it’s only one story high and it’s only one plant which makes it susceptible to pest makes it an easy target and pest can invade with no obstruction from other plants that provide shelter other beneficial natural predators that would be the the natural predators of the pets so that they will be kept in Balance so when you strip away all of those layers of natural wisdom in the forest ecosystem you have this prison camp for life that is very unsustainable it’s not resilient it does not produce high yields it only it only really is successful at one thing and I’ll I’ll ask for your help to to figure out what that thing is so if a force production system is producing all of this abundant diversity for who what everybody all life who joins in the party than the potluck doing cleaner part doing their role doing the work they need to do you know the worms are turning the soil over in a very elegant very energy efficient manner humans can be scattering seeds when they eat something and then they do the thing you know a little further down always extending the forest birds are dropping phosphorus and key locations where they post up and so on and so on everyone is has a duty plays a role and gets plenty in in in in most cases and if there is a shift in the climate shifts in the weather shifts in the level of moisture it’s adaptable because there’s so much so much flexibility in that system so now if you Nature’s intention is to create free food for everything everyone who pulls your weed gets to be fed in the commercialize industrial food system that we were exploring earlier what’s the intention of that system anyone bright to be able to limit access and and Stack Up The Benjamins to be able to have private proprietary ownership and to deprive human beings of the free access to food to deprive all life from Nature’s ever productive abundance that’s free or it comes it at a price that’s affordable in an average Ford a 4 hour a day maximum typical gather hunt wave of living landscape or no more vegan friendly if you will the the Horticultural societies that are growing food there they’re not toiling to do it there working with the natural systems in a lot of those cultures you can’t even tell it doesn’t look like what we think of as a farm is not a grid it’s more of a jungle and we’re just adding to the Natural system and we’re not getting along and we’re we’re choosing the species in our Gardens that favor us but don’t disrupt or fundamentally undermine the wisdom of how these systems work how they have been optimized for three and a half at least billion years of life figuring out how to make the best use of the mineral is the sun the water Etc so what permaculture design offers us bring it back to the founder Bill Mollison and his assistant David Holmgren they put forth a thesis in the 1970s after doing rigorous research and study the simple aha moment of Revelations that in a word what we need to be doing if we want to reverse-engineer the abundance of that wild ecosystem of course we need to change our politics and economics so that the will to have Equitable food supply and food security is more powerful than the denominator patriarchal capitalist Pig so I take that back so you have to ship the social structures in and in the thinking around his stuff of course and that’s you know a lot of people are working on those kind of movements but there’s a scientific mechanical technical subtlety that a lot of people trying to change the world have overlooked which is this sort of secret well send it it’s when we look at it and it has a revelation that we see why this how do they keep the secret from us it’s such a no-brainer so the word the secret magic word is perennial perennial does anyone know what that word means in the context of Bring It On if it’s not a classic Botanical compared to what you know if you go to the Garden Center annuals and perennials sections right so does that narrow down is he going to want it what will arrive at it together so what is annual what does annual mean just has a word nearly right okay so exactly so perennial even if you don’t never heard the word before what could that possibly be in exactly it produces more than one year old weather within it typically it’s used to describe plants that are going to plant them once and they’re going to stay alive and just keep cranking and keep cranking keep cranking for decades if not hundreds if not thousands of years depending on the species so That’s The Sweet Spot that’s what I want to really set up as the introduction to what were what permaculture is is really the foundation of it that the core of it from which so many more layers of Revelation Revelation have have grown out of but this was the key it’s ridiculous to think of it as a discovery because you can see it everywhere mean we’re surrounded by perennials we just have been fooled and been duped to now put two and two together and connect the dots and say hey if we want free food for everybody forever we don’t need giant properties to grow giant fuels to feed ourselves in the Invictus was sort of the more of a a leftist red communist kind of hammer and sickle right we don’t need to control nature with tools and machines to that extent and so that the proletarian Revolution can happen and I’m not to get too political with the reason I bring it up is it taking a step back from mechanized agricultural thinking we can actually say you know what with with this sort of ecological origami that a forest does we can fold the entire forest ecosystem into a backyard and now will be a good time to open your eyes and see you know we have just the beginning of this is the sort of scaffolding for a food Forest that we’re going to be building here where we have all the different elements this is it a worm compost the beginning will have a more ornate more down to earth Clay Pot that will kind of drain the water through so we can so we can harvest the the fertility from it this is been going for quite a while already so it’s already pretty much ready to use so we’re going to start putting our food scraps into the system is they don’t like the light so I’m not going to bother too much but these are red red wiggler worms can use as fish bait so you can get them you can rescue them in a very Buddhist sense from the from the fishing store but yeah they do the work of breaking down all of our food scraps from the kitchen and do it in a very fast and efficient manner and they produce at a compost product that’s the most nutrient-dense of all almost all Campos products and you don’t have to you don’t like a lot of people have to make compost in the world just by turning that pile for days and days and days by hand fits a good workout but they’ll do that work for you while you sleep so again leveraging the intelligence of nature so we’re just going to set that up but so I guess I want to kind of map Ankara secure and speak through what we’ve got going on here and how an inmate be able to merge their systems right so let’s say this is this is LA this is the this is the rest of LA to we haven’t got to yet and this is the the part of it that we have been given permission by the people who overthrew the government of the system we want to live an abundant wild natural ecosystem that produces free food for everybody all the time so that we can spend more time swinging hammock sand writing music and singing songs and dancing and enjoying a star is in building beautiful cultures and living beautifully so now that we have that power we’re reclaiming the land and we’re starting this is what I do for a living for my day job I’m actually doing lawn makeovers front and back yard line makeovers almost every day of the week it’s it’s it’s a struggle to get people to want to grow mostly food but at least they’re planting native plants and they’re getting more drought tolerant plants but the first step to this makeover of reclaiming the power of the forest is to block out the weeds it’s not too bad right here but you’ll see over there be most if I believe this is one of Hitler’s final conspiracies now I don’t I can’t prove that but Bermuda grass is like this it’s almost like a collectible barbed wire but it’s a live I mean to I spend most of most of my work comes from removing the stuff and I know it has its place perfectly nestled into a natural system somewhere but I don’t know I don’t know I’ve never found it not to be you know they say rampageous but in order to actually accelerate the forest building process we have to block out these unsustainable unnatural mitomano call sharmaine a grass lawn is a monoculture like any other it’s if you could be a cornfield it’s actually yeah it’s actually it’s a lot of grasses that we’ve gone overboard with but you can have a line with multiple species of you know Clover and all kinds of different beneficial diverse low-growing vegetation that you can walk on and you can play games on you know and it’ll grow back even strawberries so this disconnected all be strawberries you know and we got some over there actually so from the ground up where we’re actually what this mulch is doing is actually mimicking the natural Leaf litter and did limbs dropping from a forest so you know if if we had that the right size chipper we will we will be actually repurposing these branches that we’ve that James still and he prune back recently we will be marching that up and actually this is like scab material there’s nowhere and nature unless it is a desert naturally where you’re going to see bare soil it’s always dressed up going wherever there’s any potential for it so we’re helping it along we’re borrowing some of the forest vegetation so we can mimic this effect and actually do what the forest does which is retain moisture deep in this there’s actual most and said once that every 3 in of forest floor routines one inch of water so basically it’s suspended in this fun this is such spongy material I mean okay you’re perfect so if you see the sun has dried out from whenever if it was the rain or if this was overflowing let’s just say there was a rain event and it looks like it’s all dried out but look look at all of that moisture that’s staying I mean it’s ridiculous so there’s no that’s why I tell Forest doesn’t this when you know you could have one rain get into a little pocket of this kind of mulch and months later it can grow seeds out of it because it has this storage tank of water just suspended in these fine carbonaceous materials that have dropped from above so what do they do and agricultural Farms when they take the crap they take they take the vegetable or whatever the the product is that they want to sell and then take everything out they don’t return there’s a lot of returns you have to return the stocks of the plants back you have to compost in place you have to let this scab I mean every bit making a gash they’re making an open wound and they’re taking away all the scab material so that’s why the conventional farming system it can only go for so long before they’ve completely destroyed the capacity of that soil to give life it goes from being soil which is moist and full of life to dirt witch is dead and but we can bring it back where rehabilitating the system now and then something to a simple kind of schematic that you can take away you know this was my favorite new my learning about it this way this is what got it for me cuz I actually I took workshops where we did sheet mulching and I learned about you know they call a natural accelerated succession show succession is just the cycle of of a forest doing its thing you know but we can apply our intelligence to speed up that process we can nature will make compost but it takes a lot longer just sitting in place you know getting moist and rotting and breaking down we can speed up the process by concentrating the efforts of nature without harming them like we’re making environments for life that are at least as good if not better than the wild state that there in like I like to design Habitat For Life where it doesn’t it thinks it’s just in Shangri-La Paradise it has it’s not in a cage is not feeling limited and I feel like it’s making a penny with a farm but give plenty of space to everything can you you know you have a more ethical way of of tending the wild but the schematic piece that’s a good imprint to take take home is there so many different kind of freestyling right now and flowing with it and the key words are coming up but there’s of the keywords that I mentioned maybe 5 to 10 so far there’s hundreds if not thousands in a book this thick they called the big black book is permaculture a designer’s manual and it’s the required reading the main textbook for the permaculture design course it is 72 hour course I should mention that it’s really a via call back up just a little bit so when David Holmgren and Grill Mollison really dialed-in this thesis about perennial agriculture where we should be thinking about growing plants that are producing frequently more than once one year at a time where we can let nature just drop and drop and drop and his bill. So every year of of a forest soil ecosystem the Year this all gets better on its own so what we shouldn’t have to be putting in mining minerals and pulling oil out of the ground creating fossil-fuel petrochemical fertilizers when if we just grew tree crops or even had rallies or rows of us a fruit or nut trees staggered in between our annual crops which were still going to grow annuals is nothing wrong with them but intermingling it’s polyculture is another key word so how do we go from Monaco sure to polyculture understanding perennials and bring it all together in a designer system the easiest way so there’s so much science in technical minutiae about it but the easiest way to say from this point on that you can see somebody to bus stop and and walk them through how we can save the world together in the in the park right behind you or whatever it is it’s easy things to point out so there’s seven layers vertical layers in a natural forest ecosystem if it breaks down a little bit more granularity if you had you know aquatic systems in a few factoring you know there’s there’s more it it’s kind of the chakras another seven major chakras and then there’s a bunch of the 72,000 natis and there’s a map that all different cultures it gets pretty ridiculous but not in a bad way but we stick to the seven layers for the purpose of this conversation state what happens can anyone think of a few types of food that grows underground potatoes carrots you got it so underground so you can take any more secrets of someone you can you know discover that there there root systems Going Underground and if we can make it productive you know productive to us edible to us useful to you know to feed animals or to feed ourselves we would consider that a root crop from the root layer of the system so that’s the very bottom below ground and then what are some plants that grow horizontally across the flat surface of the ground to actually a little bit ahead of the other. You’re ahead of us will get there but you’re also you’re also right but let’s think of things that are more kind of clustering like to go strawberries all the baby you hit it didn’t have the strawberries and basically sure you would call him creepers or prostrate plans through their species that are going to grow low lying and just cover kind of carpeting the surface so hit me on this is like creeping thyme as it is for the great example so if you were designing a garden you wanted to fill up space or mint is a good example things that will just grow across that so that’s the second so the herbaceous layer really it’s it’s non-woody plants that grow sideways and they don’t they don’t grow Vines and they don’t they don’t grow Woody lying areas and you have the shrub layer which is actually more like blueberries they grow kind of a Woody stem but they’re not giant trees or just want to bushes so there’s all kinds of a lot of berries grow like that so you’ve got that layer two layer of shrubs and affirm that you’ve got to the lower canopy which is you know let’s say there’s a the tallest ones in this whole system so these will be the lower the lower canopy trees which of these could all be a week we’re going to add more in here but will have lower lower canopy fruit tree Citrus nuts dried mulberries whatever avocados all those kind of fuse like some of those will in certain systems go very high up but that’s where you really get to put on your designers had his study and know what food crops that we like to eat that are beneficial to the ecosystem that are appropriate for the climate require minimal effort to sustain how can we fill in all these vertical Mitch’s and when I left out if any is is dividing their social Vining layer which is those species that will and to spiral and grow up things are gross feet or curb its pumpkins squashes cucumbers bikinis all those not family so if you can just you can close your eyes again or leave them open either way is fine but now when you’re at the grocery store from now on you can actually ask yourself what which of those seven layers does this food crop occupy you know and you can already start design designing it in your head or if you want I mean they’re certain there’s a lot of stuff from the store that you can just plant right it’s cheaper to buy tire plant stalk from the grocery store then it is to buy from a nursery green onions potatoes carrots even you know there’s okay if you’re still a living RuPaul on it and herbs with living roots on them so you can just cut the tops off plants him he’ll do better if you cut the greens off already and then plant them in and you can already start going with that so it’s a very of all the complexity that this could go into an understanding the very unique complex relationships invisible microscopic relationship in the soil that make all this possible that’s a whole another chapter that’s a whole study there’s people who devote their entire lives and they’re only fit really in the history of science are only just beginning to scratch the surface of what’s going on the soil the density of microbial life in one drop of water it’s astounding and you should look it up online to see pictures of it that’s where it all begins so you can zoom in to any of these elements of a forest system in and just make a life study out of it but what so elegant about the permaculture system and again I’m only just trying to get you excited about the idea that we can heal the planet we can take a snapshot of any Forest system and say hey you know what if we could have a magic wand snap your fingers and fill up all of these vertical spaces with food crops that we enjoy how much we will be feeding the neighborhood out of his backyard just with what’s here if everything is everything that you see here that is green and Alive was edible inedible food crap we would stop working on the treadmill the hamster wheel we would be spending our time together creating beautiful elaborate meals and having Publix in and sharing him if if one person’s house had better solar aspect you know then another than once you get more shady area grow mushrooms if you got more sun grow Citrus it’s an interconnected web of social interactions and that’s a whole other like subscience within permaculture social permaculture where we look at how how we can design beneficial Gill’s another key word guilds meaning conscious groupings of mutually beneficial synergistic relationship between the species or people and species or you know it’s really infinitely scalable scalable these different modules of thinking and end in methodology so I think that is a good place to come to a stop let me just take a breath and see if there’s anything else that would be good to close with on this story just back to the word the word itself permanent culture permanent agriculture kind of used interchangeably the ideas that nature has been foresting the Earth has been far as being so much longer than we’ve been here and if we step back and get out of the way it will consume everything we’ve built with Forest so we can get on her surfboard and surf the wave of rewilding that’s just always happening all the time or we can waste all of our energy and killer cells with fossil-fuel poison the plant just so we can have let me hear why I live in a nice area if all you hear is the buzzing of machines packing it all the wife around you and blowing leaves and just poisoning everything that’s not a high quality of life you know if you let the wave coming just consume you and it’s like a tidal wave of wild nature coming out of all the times and all the time and all we got to do is like put a bunch of season her pocket and run into him in and then it will be completely enveloped by it and will be back in the Garden of Eden a it’s just a cycle and we’re putting in all this fossil fuel ask your effort all these machines to fight it back so that people can make that proprietary clothes stores in that’s where you going to the gym with modification patenting life all those things to say how can you take this beautiful monstrosity of life on Earth and control it and limit access to it it takes a lot of energy and you know we’re getting close to the point where it’s not going to be is easy to tap that goes energy reserves it’s going to get more difficult and we’re going to see more resistance hopefully in Rebellion as people then wake up so that is it non comprehensive introduction to permaculture and now I’m open for questions thank you for your kind attention to say worried about whether catastrophic Earth changes being near to bishan she showed me how I can dissolve my fears by building permaculture goddess temples to last thousands of years so maybe shaking to Rebels some burned in some submerged but not all would be lost if they were globally dispersed Malta still stands 7,000 years strong proof of a civilization where women and men got along worshipping the Earth mother goddess you can’t go wrong reverence for the sacred feminine Divine carved out of stone to last for All Time Low Gardens no longer remain it’s never too late for the Legacy to be reclaimed now we know how to design and build edible Landscapes go with perennial gills cooperation not competition makes ecosystems last partnership not domination our ancestors lived in the past in Vietnam a 300 year old food for a still thrives in Morocco a 2000 year old one is the oldest known to be alive permaculture before it had an everlasting Garden still remain hydrating fertilizing and receding themselves humans just gave them a little initial help a funnel protest to the warrior Colt maybe our planting of trees around monuments of Earth and stone silvery Mound Mother Earth breast built over 400 years with antlers and bone in months we could establish seven-layer systems and plan of zones and with thousands of techno pagans de permiso wouldn’t be alone trance dancing to mix the cob Guided by country girls Drums and songs evoking Shakti to empower the cruise 140 beats per minute keep us all when I grew and trained by the Rhythm the workflow is smooth what it once took generations to achieve with the last drops of oil we could drive Earth surgeon machines swales dams Hans and mounds wrap the Contours on the ground like the curves of the thousands of goddess figurines that archaeologists have found God is food for us to be seen from space crop circles of bananas fire herbs Dome trellis grapes who will Coach Rick Kehoe bed to unlock the shackles of witches burned in these temples the lessons of her story will be relearned modern medicine women like to be Jane restoring Traditions that were cast into flames fortified by Thornberry bushes and bamboo Stakes Mozart Cinepolis in aquaculture Lakes Marauders bought off with sharpened sugarcane edible weapons like cayenne pepper mace peace is not the absence of War it’s the balance of masculine and feminine energy at a society’s core Earth’s Affliction a testosterone addiction man’s domination of perverted fiction women animals and nature suppressed by five thousand years of the blade with return to the Chalice our souls may have a chance to be saved once paid fear he is buried in a composting grave you no longer think Seven Generations ahead modernity expects the future to be dead Mullis and Warren are cosmic neighbors will scorn if we lay waste to Earth are collected welcome will not be warm those of us who choose to stay home while the male ego boldly goes where it doesn’t belong will discover old life and old civilizations that he’ll guy above all if there is to be a great collapse the next Dark Ages need not be so drab the goddess altar candles will illuminate sacred texts that teach of always suppressed by religious sects eco-feminist Anthropologist to thank for exposing false assumptions of Caitlin’s clothing and rape myth of savagery lie our ancestors did not deny the power of the female to give and hurt your life for Ninety-Nine percent of human time we live hand-in-hand not hand on throat women in prehistory were not enslaved as we’ve been told before agriculture cities churches and states to cross cultural Paradigm of goddess worship was in place where it was kept safe and progressed into civilization with Grace the human creative words cannot be reversed but it’s Focus can be we worked rather than building phallic missiles and bombs to mail can be heroic for his devotion at home tools no longer wielded to cut and control but to heal liberate sow and grow it’s not that we men are so bad just to education that is so sad. To fear and hate the wounds that create envious of her power he top of her glorious towers do you still stand but enough has survived we have what to do with permaculture revive the sacred spaces of old and begin to Value fertility above gold precious soil and seeds. He exchanged yields return true wealth and fame megalithic living heroine statue Standing Tall Pat’s not streets Grove not walls in permaculture got his temples to replace the shopping malls guidestone Commandments filter feature across time but Edible art would be a more compelling gift to leave behind no paternalistic laws and rules just moving temples depicting the feminine Divine what is the feminine Divine you ask she is with surging behind your social mask country cuz Road of Jordan and Reena Desai can gently guide you to your knees and breathe open your third eye when you surrender to shamanic beats boundaries will dissolve limit how do you think you decide how much to let in. I will fill you up and radiates out for your skin should whisper to your inner ear or sing loudly if you let go of your fear men afraid of losing control who’d rather die than find another man beautiful can bathe in the warm list of her love and drop the act of being Macho and tough the masculine Divine as a place in time equal in fact when properly were fined if you dare to perceive the feminine Divine you’ll see her spanning more Dimensions than stars in the sky for a 2d Glimpse to the art of Amanda Sage she’s downloaded revisions in the physical space with permease Architects and engineers futuristic permaculture goddess Temple Realms could soon be built right here thank you for listening to the Tantra Punk podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition assassini podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Archer Park. 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Calm and our journey together will begin welcome to the township Punk podcast episode number 5 this is an interview I did a couple years ago on a Volvo Planet radio talking about the concept of what it would take to build permaculture goddess temples and some of the anthropology and Eco feminists thinking behind it so hope you enjoy it take care bye Rolex I’d jump into the giant MIND Institute on what is the idea of the brain behind it where that stem from and where you guys at looking to do in 2012 well it goes back officially to the founding in 2005 myself and a fellow Eco Punk survivalist Gardener and eco-feminist Emily a different environments and she grew up in Southern California and we both ended up finding a new tribal family in the punk rock subculture and there is a lot of transformative energy and ecological Consciousness that eventually LED both of us to become tree sitters at the Northwest and we in the tri-states we we basically experienced the kind of Primal eco-energy and living in these kind of Ewok Villages and having to work out a lot of different issues among genders and luckily you know that the legacy of the Eugene area in the University of Oregon and all of the the post 60s do activists that had that kind of live in that region there is a lot of oysters and there was a lot of Consciousness and there was a really amazing symphysis eco-feminist Siri and politics and the practice of wilderness survival going on out in the easy walk Teresa Villages so we ended up crashing past their years later found each other again in Southern California where I moved in 2002 and started playing music and weary line in Southern California and wanted to bring a little bit of that conch City especially because he’s in Southern California are coming to my shows you know and they’re also playing in bands and so I was just in a lot of environmentally conscious use work reading music in a punk bands and we felt that it was important to facilitate their their good work some recognition for their parents in the school dropouts and not recognizing you know all of the contributions that they’re making artistically and you know Visionaries that I’m pretty glad you called sanity and community center Art Space Art Gallery preschool and kind of brought a lot of that stuff you know from the Northwest that we experience to into the inner city and had a community center space in Long Beach for about a year-and-a-half and then kind of depressed City pressure in zone violations worstest out of there and we’ve had several different to a project basis around Southern California since then right now we’re actually really trying to Anchor a vision in for 2012 for building a permaculture goddess temples with the we were both really be influenced by a documentary film call the goddess remembered and if not if it really goes into the history and a patriarchy and the prehistory of what riane Eisler in chalice and the blade refers to as partnership societies versus the later you know Dominator societies that we’re currently living in the in the legacy of so that’s really gave us directions as far as what kind of especially when it comes to sustainability and survival and food production we want to create sacred spaces that are functionally practically robe has been resilient you know on the material physical security just really having a more secure email exploring Ascend to the higher chakras Safeway where we have our physical security in our basic survival needs you know Food Water Energy security taking care of shelter as well the emerging that the goddess Temple archetype which goes back thousands of years like I think the oldest one the oldest is in malta and there’s tons of goddess figurines is Monumental architecture and stonework which actually in terms of transferring your ear message to the Future Stone Engravings are the longest and preserve medium so all the stuff the closest create really if you don’t like it into stone is not going to be part of the future so yeah 2012 potential for catastrophic Earth changes to happen will there’s kind of I don’t know I guess we’re thinking love of averages are probability that if we spring up enough permaculture goddess temples around the world that actually have you know perennial food system built-in will not just see the ruins of you know Stone cities that that have no fees goddess figurines which tells us the potential of using this is before permaculture even existed as a word but it’s definitely one of the one of the pillars of the inspiration for the potential of creating regenerative food production systems that actually are you plugged in you know the variables in a seven-layer you know Forest ecology system where you have all the different you know dynamics of the species working together so they provide their own hydration their own fertile fertilization and they received themselves so I just encourage people to have to look into permaculture and she understand the concept of the craving food forests that will pretty much perpetuate themselves and only after several you know months or years of intensive she couldn’t have her to get them once they established you know they will last for a long time and I really just kind of feel like whatever you know what answer is that you know this year if it is validated activity and modern ideas about what can happen you know around this time could be next year, who knows when but but the idea that you know it’s possible that the lights may go out on our modern civilization in at the information age may end that really compels me to try to spread the meme of permaculture goddess temples worldwide so that whatever happens you know deserts maybe oceans and valleys maybe Peaks and all of that kind of stuff but you know properly dispersed throughout the globe at least a few of them will last and and the whole book would be they will stand as symbols to 22 really promote all and reverence for the sacred feminine and I’ve been doing a lot of timeshare work recently there’s a couple of folks in town Reena Desai in Rota Jordan to do amazing work to help people connect with Earth energy into understand the power of of integrating goddess energy or divine feminine energy into our lives as males and females there’s an amazing healing effect of that of those practices and and I just cannot tell you how much through the work that I’ve done with them and I really think that yeah that’s the kind of guidance that I’m looking for in that there were looking for as far as I know getting the energy that we need to do this kind of work and have some counterbalancing on the imbalance of masculine energy which has been really corrupting and destroying life on Earth last five thousand years and I really both you know Emily and myself you know we had very similar Paths of encountering eco-feminist scholarship in our Career College experiences Anthropologie students there’s an essay by one of her professors Novotny very very short and concise way for people to learn about the egalitarians gather Hunter societies that for 99% of human history you know actively maintain a horizontal axis of power between genders and there was respect and reverence of all types of animistic spirits and and and and a real understanding of the life-giving and nurturing power of the of the female and that was you know obviously transposon to a cosmology of nature that where it where the female principle was honored and it was considered sacred and if you study how exactly that if you study how exactly that got perverted and destroyed you will really understand the importance of reclaiming the Monumental architecture because that’s what was destroyed in that was what was changed from you know the the the life-giving mother goddess to the warrior code of the the you know the Conquering lands and all that kind of stuff you know there’s there’s really a lot of people you know even radical people and spiritual I think don’t really get into as far as their study of the history of patriarchy and I I really don’t think without that understanding there’s going to be a way out of this or you know whatever system whatever name is call Reno feudalism to capitalism are symptoms of a deeper crisis which is that loss of the reverence of the feminine Divine that’s in legacies of Priestess classes in in just a passing down generation to generation the culture the coastal tools to be able to access that stuff I think you know for us today now you know getting into what what is probably one of the fastest tracks to understand that because if you can see what these people can do with the room of of willing and there’s an all we know people have you know maybe a misconception that it’s all about sexual work but it really it transcends that it’s about all areas of life and understanding you know our our ability to draw from both masculine and feminine energy and to really refine and cultivate and balance them internally within our relationships you know our intimate relationships and with their relationships with the and the way that we make a living in the world and all that kind of stuff so I think it’s just a lot of solutions a lot of things that were excited to work on and you know Emily’s is working on this this kind of creating this kind of goddess worshiping Sacred Space with permaculture the Northwest and I’m I’m always doing projects here and we have you know just various ways to plug in for anybody who’s interested and go to our website. 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Org and contact us if this is something that you’re interested in and contributing to at the physical energy or with any kind of other resources were always looking for help to interview what you have going on with the guy MIND Institute currently what is a permaculture goddess word for something that has like a two thousand-year-old or down by an archaeologist today don’t have no permaculture and what not but the real conscious you know design implementation of of permaculture regenerative Design Systems has not to my knowledge been done in in this in association with with goddess temples and I really think that I’m a few look at Amanda stages artwork she’s really pulling down that futuristic vision of reaffirming the divine feminine energy in the goddess and sculpting land the land and sculpting are human settlement design and RNR don’t work too actually to be conducive to permaculture you know regenerative design installation and Monumental architecture and that’s really why I love her stuff so much as it’s all there you know the artist in like Terence McKenna said it’s the responsibility of the to the tap into the sort of future slowest of energy and information coming in kind of feeding back get feeling back to us from the future in the artist of the ones who are tuned into that and able to see that and yes man credit for the antenna of the race yeah very cool actually yeah we just picked up some feed and must be all these solar flares today we’ve been having crazy feedback today at the station are all really as well let me see if I can yeah it is going to be at the urban permaculture house on Saturday February 4th from 1 to 3:30 p.m. I’m not looking at the the address in front of me right now definitely go to our website guy mind. Org for that and basically something that we’ve been working on with the guy MIND Institute for many years and it is I think one of the most important ways that we can Bridge the chasm some really dark times food shortages you know skyrocketing prices inflation economic collapse dollar store all that stuff you know there’s quite a bit of it that isn’t you know speculation or prediction requite a bit of like a crunch that people are feeling feeling now just financially there’s a lot of facts about sprouting the people I don’t think they’re aware of one being for example that buy sprouting grains and seeds and legumes before cooking them you’re actually increasing the bioavailable nutrients to 225 hundred times the vitamins and minerals divided availability of them I’ve experienced an amazing feat like super powers of clarity and energy and insight and and just physical robusticity that just from like you know the half a cup of that you are a cup or two of a Sprouts in sand some you can eat raw some you can you know you can you want to cook special are legumes but really and it’s dirt-cheap so you can get 25 bags for 50 pound bags inside of the seed stalks from you know if you want to go organic there are some options but I really recommend a place called Torn & Glasser for people in Los Angeles where you can get a bulk health food store for you know half the price you know half to two-thirds the price and you’re getting him in bulk quantities which will actually force you to to do what I think is appropriate language is to have a reserve of this stuff on site do you know what your house you don’t get 5 gallon buckets mylar bags and oxygen absorber packets and you can create you know food Security in an insurance policy for your own survival with sprout sprout seeds and Dandy’s kit with the buckets this is a big thing in the survivalist movement studying very very experienced I’m a culture and also with this server Consciousness Evolution movement which I find is is is very very healing and very empowering but often times it’s focused on higher chakra work and not as considerate as giving as much consideration to the nuts and bolts as physically surviving in the physical plane which is going to become harder and harder as we move forward from this point preparedness and I know it’s a more of destructive process where you have to fend for yourself we’re going to check out guy and dash mine. Org resources there it’s an awesome sight yeah. I just want to say bend that I I love what you’ve been saying that the whole time that I decide right loving and stuff like that is not going to do the water supplies and stuff like that when something to happen so you know preparing for the physical is just as important as preparing for the spiritual and I’ve always been a big player on that grounding yourself because we do have graduation day is coming in a bit definitely definitely I like the same tie up your horse before you pray that kind of says it all right thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me a podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Damas de