In this episode I’m joined by one of my all time favorite visionary artists Satva. We met briefly at the Los Angeles conscious life expo about 10 years ago. I was mesmerized by his unique approach to depicting divine feminine beauty and themes of futurism, sci fi, anime, and much more. It was an honor to have him on the podcast to tell the story of his personal spiritual and artistic evolution.
My favorite of his works is a collection of “Chakra Devis” which are stunningly beautiful representations of the personalities of the chakras, anthropomorphized as human yoginis. He takes us on a guided tour of the symbolism and intentions for each of the 7 major chakra devi pieces. I was extremely grateful to have an opportunity to share my appreciation for his works, it was like a podcast version of chatting with the artist at an art show opening.
We also discuss his yoga gear line Echelon Active and several other creative projects under development. He’s definitely on a path to transform and transmit ancient sacred healing and empowering wisdom to the modern world through an array of multi-media offerings.
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Michael Satva is a visionary artist with a unique futuristic new age spiritual aesthetic. With an eclectic upbringing being influenced by world religions, hip hop, graffiti, and the melting pot culture of California, Michael has synthesized a unique spiritual identity that incorporates elements from the ancient past and the future to create new archetypes of gods and goddesses for the modern and future world. He has worked on a plethora of projects from comic books and video games, to brand development and fashion design. Throughout all of his work he has a mission to portray women as powerful and divine by invoking goddess worship in a new 21st century form.
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Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 202 I am being joined by saatva who is a Visionary artist that I encountered now several years ago back up around 2010 I believe that the conscious life Expo and West LA and he had a booth there where there was just the most Exquisite activating beautiful depictions of yoginis in these representations of the chakras and I had never seen shelter more compelling set of artworks really I would say in my life and I since I was in a pubescent and developing and developing my my arrow so you know I really was attracted to the the Visionary art and a Sci-Fi art of the the heavy metal comics and the the even the Akira comics and definitely would like steeped as a as a adolescent in this futuristic sci-fi and an anyting erotic I obviously devoured and so I really was a big fan of Louis Royal as well as like I bought those art books at his in Geiger and what not and what would I think a lot of that stuff lacked for me was this activating sacred geometry spiritually intelligent Dimension mixed with the Sci-Fi mixed with the futurism and in with the arrow sin so when I saw at the conscious life Expo and I saw that the only things coming together it was just like so such a turn-on at to my eyes and my heart so I bought a shirt and I wore it around for many years and I love it and I want everybody to see this sort of Flagship part that said we’re going to talk about today that the Shocker Davies but we also talked about his other multimedia formats but really I feel like this is one of those very few and a lifetime epiphanies of really connecting with the work of an artist so it’s a huge honor supposed to have you on the podcast at this stuff with in and help us appreciate your work and I I just feel like it’s time and it’s right for me in a lot of ways to talk with you about collaborations in commissions and Licensing and what not I think this is just really healing and beautiful work so with all that said tell us all about your journey as an artist and how did you develop the skills in end of the wisdom that you embed into the works thank you a lot and I appreciate that you are you are touched by it and I’m just trying to manifest what I’m what I’m seeing from a from essentially from an alternate future that one that we’re not really seeing in this world one that the one we see is very devoid of culture and and I see a future that’s full of a plethora of cultures and the Melting Pot of of everything so for me that’s an odd future Optimist at heart and I want to see the world become a better place so a lot of my heart has to do with empowering women in a way that Society for so long has emailed them down and a lot of it comes in as a as a goddess worship and growing up I was raised by hippie parents who were in The New Age movement my mom was a yoga teacher growing up my dad was involved with a Buddhist Monastery and old Burmese Buddhist Community I grew up with a very open-minded a household that I was experienced I was some influence by cultures from around the world from Judaism to Christianity to the ancient Egyptian religion to Hinduism to Buddhism all of that was very present in my childhood so I was able to kind of piece things together and create my own spiritual beliefs out of that and and so what one thing that has come through a lot for me is just how a lot of these religions have avoided the worship of the goddess and just even within Judaism how it started out with the Ashera who is the goddess consort to Yahweh and even within Hinduism this emphasis on Krishna run on Ganesh instead of the different goddesses that were incredibly powerful and so what what I found is of all the religions that Hinduism really seems the most intact from the ancient goddess times and so I definitely gained the most inspiration from Hinduism and I feel like it’s really relevant to today because we live in a world where women are getting more power gaining more voice and so there is there’s a necessity to find the spiritual embodiment of of the female in a way that’s that’s like absurd to me that it hasn’t exist existed because in a women create life that’s just how it works and yet here we are seeing this this God created the universe and it’s just like a text but here on the earth you know women create life everyday so how come we’re denying the Goddess that that roll of of the Divine Creator and be in holding that sacred and so that’s that’s essentially part of my spiritual belief is and I I try to manifest that with my heart and make it current in a way that you know a lot of the gods and goddesses are depicted in their own cultural context from you know thousands of years ago but I I look into the the spiritual world for what a current Avatar of that would be in a sentence how how these energies and Spirits manifest in the modern world because we we live in the in a world where were most religions are intact and and unchanging from thousands of years and yet the energies have shifted so drastically that it’s I feel like it’s time for some new archetypes new spiritual archetypes to be formed to help us move forward into a futuristic world and we’re not tied to old paradigms and old beliefs but we are able to manifest new realities based on the intersection of Science and spirit in you know even using the chakras as an example of finding the the scientific and energetic qualities of the chakras and then using those in our meditation it it it it brings it out so it’s not just some crazy religion it becomes a scientific practice of spirit of Consciousness and no other influences for me I was very influenced by hip-hop and graffiti in anime and robots and Max and just imagining the future that we’re about to enter and so it’s it’s finding that balance of these really ancient religions from ancient Egypt and Hinduism to you know robotic Max and colonizing Mars and just understanding those two extremes and finding finding a balance of that and that’s that’s really at the heart of most of my work beautiful it’s such a joy to hear all this because I’ve been stealing it and inviting with it in into no really that you have these BF antiquing in really true and deep hearted kind of influences and experiences and just it’s great to hear that that you have such an articulate View and vision and with bringing us together and I’m curious do you were you a big cyberpunk kind of sci-fi fan also of the film genres that depicted this futuristic stuff because I’m seeing this is very Blade Runner ich Tu me to definitely I love Blade Runner my favorite book of all time and snow crab and yeah I love cyberpunk I’m just I found in the last I used to think of myself as a cyberpunk artist until I really came to the conclusion that a lot of cyberpunk is very is like women hating and there’s this really dark kind of chauvinistic side to it that I really am against and so that it it really brings up a really interesting thing that it’s kind of like sifting through Instagram sifting through hashtags right you have certain hashtags which have the same content and only men are looking at it and then you have other Hashtags with their equivalent futuristic contact that women are looking at and so I’ve been trying to find that that balance wear allot how how we can bridge that divide and allow for an A+ female-centered cyberpunk to emerge that women want to embrace because it’s safe to say for example recently in Netflix there was a new series about robots and something robots and sex and love or something and it was awful it was so dark and my friends was like oh it’s cyberpunk you’re going to love it and I I hated it because it just was not it wasn’t an empowering experience I got I want to see you know women in the future that have superpowers that can just Blast away any anything that comes their way and you know it depicted a much more Twisted kind of reality and so for me that’s that’s my Prime objective is the empowerment of women to to be as beautiful or as strong or as you know as badass as they possibly can and I I I I seen more and more that that they need to hear that because Society often doesn’t doesn’t show that and and so yeah anyway that’s that’s that’s why I’m happy we’re so on the same page with that and I have my own reasons why in my life story and evolution I guess I call myself sometimes a gender traitor not that I’m in transition per se but that I just stopped being interested in ball games and barbecues and not to really insult modern masculinity but it’s just I realize that I had more I got more enjoyment and more fulfillment out of spending time in groups of women and being kind of a tomgirl maybe a kiss if there’s if it’s like exploring the mysteries of the feminine and really really sipping the nectar of the goddess and wanting to serve instead of fronting with all my homies about how we treat our women like shit and how we’re all homophobia can it’s just this much he’s Mo it’s just really exhausting in a real a real turn off to me and so I was able to I was just started to see the energy of the of the Shakti and I’m wondering in your story is there was there any kind of like breaking point or kind of fork in your road where you started to grab a tape and seek more of that the shock the energy or what was the Catalyst did you have like amazing sexual Kundalini experience and you became a devel goddess worship or just where the goddess worship enter your the your certified the Zeitgeist of your mind I mean San Francisco is a very bizarre place in growing up there in the 80s and 90s it was a very strange mix of things that that made it very confusing to grow up there and that was because the the mix of the feminist movement with the the game movement had this really strange effect where they made all the straight men into like villains and it vilified finding women attractive in the strange way where it where if I found the guy attractive that would be okay but if I found a woman attractive I was in a sentence you know turning her into an object and it and it was this this bizarre place where we’re by the time I was twelve I had guilt for finding women attractive and I was the only one who had several friends who have similar experience without so is a very bizarre kind of the opposite World should should I say but it took me a long time to realize that some women love being beautiful and that there’s nothing wrong with beauty itself like that and and different types of beauty are found Beautiful by different men and women and so that that like that denial of the beauty of the feminine was kind of driver for me to be like no I find this beautiful and I don’t think that this is wrong I’m not I’m not like objectifying I’m I’m you know admiring and idolizing a certain Beauty comes from the Divine source that that women just magically have this power to have this beauty and it’s not just Skin Deep there’s a beauty there’s a Grace and you know different women have different types of Beauty in and so it just really forced me to to really look deeply at that and at my own my own you know contractions vs. what women in the women around me what they wanted and and so it it’s interesting cuz you you have this other side of feminism that says okay women have to go to work and women have to be just like men and then you have someone like Hillary Clinton who dresses like a man and yet she’s the embodiment of the feminist movement come president and yet along the way everything feminine is lost and and that there’s this idea that everything feminine is there for negative that must be removed in order for a woman to be equal that that really I can’t you know it makes no sense to me I mean it just even the fact that women now where you know at least in the 90s women all wore pants and it was like okay where were you know we’re trying to be more like men and that that was that was like the standard normal process and yet now I see with fashion with the way the world’s going women are allowed to embrace the feminine demore it’s become more acceptable with yoga and just how you know how fashion has emerged women are like yes I’m beautiful and I’m able to manifest is and and it’s not about men looking at me it’s about it’s about how I feel right so you know the name that goes to the whole the whole dichotomy of the Muslim burka vs. you know women who don’t want to wear anything in this that whole that whole realm is like is it the man’s job to like tell a woman what she can wear what or is it a woman’s job to decide how she wants to express herself and I saw an end and I see that women have every possible View and so there’s no reason that that any man should decide what what they want for themselves so it’s it’s all tied 2-2 you know all of these issues that are still really you know present today and and so that’s that’s really well that’s that’s my story how I came into it that’s awesome and it’s just so timely to because literally right before we haven’t started the conversation I just flashed onto Instagram and saw that there is like a flash mob sort of a thing of women laying down nude at the intersection in front of the Facebook Instagram headquarters I believe in New York City and they were holding up giant art pieces or photographs of nipples in a basically it’s a weave in nipple hashtag what they’re protesting and so this is Xavier literally we are at this moment of the intersection of what you’re saying and and I’ve had a funny thought for a few years now about how yet but if a man you know is if is threatened by the nipple and afraid of it he can just wear like we can save a lot of fabric by just using one strip of a blindfold and then head that all of that sitter putting all of that cloth on women just put a tiny strip on your eyes and then you know walk around with the assistance of some kind and then you will you know you won’t be your poison by their erotic you know powers whatever you think is going on but it’s powerful it’s a powerful incredible I if you using Instagram again all the most popular accounts on Instagram are women and it just shows that in this new new era you know after hundreds of years of Oppression or stop thousands of years that women really are on the verge of running running running the show in a different way and that men men’s role is we are the support for them to be able to to grow and manifests that they need us and we need them and I’m not saying that men are inferior it’s it’s it’s more in line with how the ancient cultures were had this more symbiotic relationship where women have their place and they had they had power in it and and so yeah so I mean if you go back in time it it’s it’s really a trip when you start researching like ancient Egyptian and a lot of the even during Rome a lot of the religious centers of goddess worship the women inside wood would sleep with with the people come in they were essentially prostitutes but they were revered prostitute so it was like this strange it said it was a different way of thinking of it and then as patriarch eat so cold it started demonizing these these temples and you know the cult of Isis was so widespread across all the room that the only way to defeat it was when they they turned it into mother Mary so that they could you know turn turn into a Jesus thing but but yeah in the ancient world women women had incredible power even when you look at ancient Egypt a lot the the only way of pharaoh had power is if the mother was vine where is the mother was an Isis you were you were not you were nobody if your mother was a nice and so essentially it was if you are Pharaoh you had to have a royal Queen Mother and that was just a very different way to look at things then we have today and when that when the the Greeks came in and they wrote the history they wrote all the women outside of the Egyptian history so we don’t we don’t have a record of of the actual history we have it filtered through Roman and Greek guys that were incredibly patriarchal so yeah I feel like here we are again at at a Crossroads and it’s super important that women and I don’t think all women realize that yet I think women across the world still have a long way to go but we’re at that crossroads where men you know men are the protectors and are the support women can blossom and be whoever they want to be and I think that’s super important for the world to even and all this violence and all the wars in the world you know as soon as there’s a female cat Collective running the planet then you know you think they’re going to want War 2 happen like course not I totally totally this is all the philosophy and ideology that I am totally aligned with and exactly you have make Make Love Not War and facilitate the the women to be intimate in a more of a primal for me looking at bonobos even in just looking at how functional non Dominator matriarchal or maitre folk cultures village-based societies are all of our ancestors worshipping the Leone worshipping the fertility of nature in the Saturn aspect it’s it’s really how we evolved and really we’re going to we’re wasting a lot of energy trying to fight that again ourselves and our nation state boundaries and borders and all of these and actually I have to compliment what you’re saying in this isn’t cynical at all it’s actually in total reverence and all of it but really when I think about when I was experiencing on Instagram what you’re talking about and I see like I million follower accounts and how Howell magnetizing and how addictive these images are for everybody and it really just reminds me that no matter what you try to layer on top of it or how you try to obscure if we are all seeking the goddess and we’re all just gorging ourselves on the imagery of the feminine and and all of its expressions and it’s so obvious there and it made me think of this this excerpt of me and Michael case we’re not rely realized we’re not living in any dictatorship we’re living in a butt ocracy would love to now that having kind of pushed out that the real the backstory for you and the meaning of this art I really would love to do a sort of kind of commentary behind-the-scenes expiration if you could give us a a curated kind of tour walkthrough of the it’s 3 sot for.com chakra Dash Davie. HDMI that’s what I’m looking at right now and starting from the bottom if we can if you can give us a little guy to Journey so anybody who is listening to this now if you want to queue up your browser or your phone to that page we’re going to take a journey of exploring the symbolism and the intelligence that you put into these beautiful works the ones that had captured my soul and his and it just kept me really seeking these expressions and I will tell you what these are magical sigils cuz as I look at these now and I’m like wow I’ve been able to manifest experiences with these prophetesses in my real life so this is something to study and and really poor energy into these works of art and and they will nourish your soul and they will get the hell rounds it is about diffusing that pleasurable experience across so many different Souls that it’s impossible to attributed to one person and really I believe that this is not an astoundingly long wide penis that I have that I think is perfectly shaped to do what it was designed to do and I’m happy with it whatever yeah I’ve gotten good reviews so far in life women with wanted to kill other women because they were so possessive of this thing that is to say all it wants to do is just be warm and wet and one of them that is so I have a beloved partner and you know I would kiss your boobs goodbye and tell him to be good every day knowing if she was like why I never did anything bad to anybody ever and I realized that was the pure essence of innocence is Brett’s cuz like you can never say that they ever do anything bad to never manipulated anybody they never play games with anybody they just give and give and give you know so anyway that’s another story if we could only all aspire to be as innocent as a breast but never do anything to hurt anybody ever never had to be told to be nice just what is nice you know x-ray sexual Zen state that people would have to meditate for years if they didn’t eat mushrooms to figure that out like become a breast and live in the consciousness of breast in this and just experienced pleasure and give pleasure and don’t fucking overthink it you know it as long as everybody is of legal age and sound mind and knows what they’re signing up for essentially we can work out the details but I’ve been in those moments where it’s like yes what’s making this woman lose her mind and ecstasy is 80% the emotional connection with other women that she is sharing and then I am there to be basically a prop to the beautiful. Theater of feminine understanding and that is when I understood For the First Time The futility of women trying to squeeze blood from a stone to make bullheaded dumb men who would rather be playing video games or breaking shit or glowing sit up or doing something fucking mindless and heartless for fun and just acting them and making them be a woman when they’re not a woman because they can’t explore sexual intimacy with other women because you’re afraid of the taboo of lesbianism and because it would be against the rules and whatnot so when melted down and was in a sensor Moniz were psychedelic ceremonies wear them all of these stories were melted away and it was just women in fucking ecstasy the agony and ecstasy and using my cock is a prop but also as an energetic current and a source of love and that my refinement was allow me to be in that space and I realize that it’s like it is so cumbersome to be responsible for a woman’s orgasm in a love making session why would I want all of that burden on myself it’s like I have to at my age I have to think about not coming too fast beat not losing my erection and in trying to make a sincere emotional sincere present connection with the person who I am kissing is with that is enough for me to have to do it now I’m responsible for her squirting and I like coming in the same say when I saw the leveraging of all these other women and how freely flowing the orgasms come when the openness in the connectedness is there with other women so so like I said I’m not taking a step back and now if anybody wants to come at me they’re going to have to go through that that ate a form of of grade school of learning in or black ass like that you’re going to come at me do you want to fuck me you need a black belt in loving me to get in and if you go into any Karate Dojo they’re not even said hey I want to do what you do can you hand me your black belt right now please here I’ll give you a beer can I buy you a beer and then you give me a black belt no stupid you’re so stupid Bibb so what was the quote from the movie UHF which is very a so you definitely watch UHF to understand where my sense of humor comes from but yes I’ll good good so so we’re solving this problem and creating these designer experiences and so what I realized is that the impulse for a woman to have this one-dimensional relationship with a man’s cock so that she wants to possess it so as you’re a very own the way for me to logically very very simple-minded lycee what is the how do you prevent that is to say well you will learn to get to know my cock at exactly the same time as another person and you will only have a 50/50 relationship with whatever you do you say like you would with your best friend and I had her saying in people may not like to hear me say is cuz it sounds good feed it to your best friend first feed it to your best friend first and I didn’t even think about the secondary effect of that which for me that was just that was just like I’m going to know that you’re not going to lose your mind with jealousy when you can just say here actually you can I’ll let you go first so that would be the the the tantric taboo test of transgression against yourself like that Siri you’re going to lose your mind will feel into that and start simple we’re going to dance together and you’re going to watch just that and is that make your blood boil what happens after your blood simmers down do you start to like so now it’s like whatever that point is where that demon comes out of jealousy you were going to rub the shit out of your clit until it goes and tell you what you’ve you become a demon Whisperer with your clit and me and everybody just wants to create more and add more locks to the fire and you transmute that negative emotion into a positive motion and then in the probably will be called conversion the opposite we don’t have a word for it we do not have a word except for that one which no one knows it set designer neologism but we don’t have the band singing about how good it feels to watch their wife get fucked by Adam Ant And so yeah here we come back full circle so we will be so we’re going to we’re going to have these experiences we’re going to sing about it and and so this is the this is the what the the the climax of this conversation will be in my opinion is is when I talked about how the it’s not just a theoretical Gaiden guiding principle to say oh yeah we’ll will like yeah okay you flip a coin and I have sex first with the person who wins that round and then I stopped having sex with you and hopefully it didn’t lose my wind in 5 minutes cuz I was so fucking turn on by the sexy after they all I got another $5 and it’s over for me for like they’re already like forgot every system anyway cuz they’re tearing each other inside out and everything and I’m just watching and trying to like make it come to live again and finally it will eventually but you should know I’m getting That’s The Hampsterdance the Tantra hence the sexual Jedi Knight training so that you can breathe breathe through and in have the orgasms without losing the love don’t be a 5 lb jump so hit the two feminists so I think I’m going to say okay if she’s dying to give me a blowjob then like we time it for like okay like we’re going to play your favorite song and it’s going to be about the same equal thanks to to her favorite song and you going to eat each other’s favorite songs and I’m like hold each other’s heads and massage each other and just be like holding each other from behind and Miss Priss massaging each other that they take turns but there’s still a potential in that for for jealousy to arise in forever and for it to be I mean I just thought of a way to actually literally short-circuit everything in a really beautiful elegant circuit and so here is the design and I will try to verbally explain unless they can so I love the idea of two women’s hands clasping together around my cock and massaging it gently up and down as they face each other and our eye gazing intermittently so the visual so far is is that the dear beloved goddesses or I are facing each other so actually agency kneeling I’m I am laying on my back and they both are kneeling with their literally as clothes into my armpit is possible so that I can reach Below in between their legs and butt so I can have a hand on each clit and vulva fingers is a good middle finger on the clit and to end so if I’m cuffing the vulva and able to use my longest middle finger to be stroking the each clit simultaneously in patterns you know singer sew and I’m basically playing streams is like playing guitar and make a solo I’m playing shift I have this is because the end of vocalizations or what I’m tuning for it you know so so it isn’t this beautiful instrument of a playing these two young hearts that are kissing each other and like I gazy and exactly is so I’m making sure that they’re not feeling left out in that apartment while I’m being stimulated and everybody is being stimulated sexually and everyone is feeling a part of a closed circuit that is meeting everyone’s needs and in and there’s no favoritism there’s no hierarchy the really so thin and if anything I am as the man in my back and that is what time trick Kali worshipping actual full fully pornographic and I hesitate to use that word was fully glorious erotic depictions of the circuitry of how this stuff works so if it’s if you’re not approve any 3 I mean if you’re not so sexually stunted then you would just understand that these icons are just road maps to the spiritual terrain of understanding the energetics of Shiva Shakti god goddess energy so we’re designing with that and we’re creating a maximum hydraulic energy flows in in in a way that is very egalitarian actually inhibits the growth of the ego and that sense of so-and-so I’ve experienced this in not that exact formation but that’s why I aspire to be a porn director so that I can I can work with people who are very comfortable taking Direction and are not going to lose their minds and so I actually had this conversation today they’re what makes me not a cult leader and what prevents me from ever becoming a cult leader is this one fundamental thing right but I have to study cold it is to know how not to be a quote later cuz otherwise I would just be cranking out so much Kool-Aid day Kool-Aid would have to invent a time to punch flavor you know I got to be sponsored by Kool-Aid the Kool-Aid man oh yeah it would have it I make my own Kool-Aid Man Township anyway after dark okay I wanted how they’ve not sued like I have all of the libelous memes and they feel bad for the Kool-Aid guy I didn’t fucking poisonous people man I don’t mean to be making fun of them and I really got to get serious about not making a joke out of the people who died in the massacre Crazy Eights it’s it’s it’s public domain now to make a joke to either the expression people say don’t drink the Kool-Aid it’s because people at Jonestown were by a charismatic cult leader who was it was an extremely right with it skips a generation maybe but that’s how memes get formed yes so I mean that’s how they sort of deprecated the roots and you say things that we don’t know how does the reason we’re numb it so they don’t drink the Kool-Aid means don’t consent to a groupthink. Virus that makes mass suicide be acceptable and so they poisoned the Kool-Aid punch and that’s how everyone can scented make give it to their kids and everyone is like this is fine and some people try to protest and they were silenced and some people try to run away and it was a nightmare and it was absolutely what I would I must not allow myself to become as a priest that uses sexual mind manipulation and coercive tactics to trade love and affection attention and orgasm for 4 unquestioning devotion into the point of suicide so that that’s the extreme case that that we that is a litmus test for if you were going down that slippery slope but I actually tend to want to study the mental illness of sociopath sociopathy narcissism and I would like to consider myself a benign I’m the benign narcissist I know that that is a character flaw that I am not how we going to like defeat by doing the past limitations as many times that night and I’m going to roll with it and I’m going to say yeah I will be like Howard Stern and I will be I’m going to if I’m going to be this personality I’m going to make a bonsai tree out of my own ego if I can and have other people help in the process but but things going going back to the to the cult thing and what me what gives me the authority to design this orgasmic Orchestra what why and how do you not just become a colder than soy everyone you meet is basically in that on that game board now how am I going to manipulate you to be in this in this position that I would like you to be in to fulfill my fantasy of engineering all this town truck stuff and and if I’m if I’m this is well that’s spit out the Kool-Aid don’t swallow I think what we’ll get to that for sure that’s going to be a we’re going to get to that but can’t forget that we’ll save that for the for the most triumphant moment the climax is when we’re going to use that it’s so precious now after it’s been built up so ever since a joke that’s going about 2 it’s going to explain come on your face it’s going to come on yesterday and you’re going to beg for it and so hits is it is I’ve had people beg me to come in the third eye and it was hard to resist but this is going to be almost as good as that sharing you this one liner inside joke and just a minute but to wrap up this sort of dark out thing that we were doing with the coal thing is that it how do you know how do I hedge against being the creepiest man every like people think that Barney the purple dinosaur because he and forgive me if I’m butchering the facts here but as far as I know he’s doing what I considered to be taboos for me which is charging women money to have sexual penetrative intercourse with them above all without protection and making that into a to me that’s not a scalable business model and you can ask your doctor wife but Barney I mean I get it and I get that that’s the love thing being cultivated generated so I think I don’t know whether I consider that good pressure bad press for modern Neo Tantra or what not but I’d love to have them on the podcast I’m sure it’s going to happen and I can’t say that I was a fan of the art form of Barney the purple dinosaur but but but I would love to get to the full story and also talked about the ethics and this medical the medical duty of care that comes with sexual and pinch of intercourse with anybody so anyway that’s the sad but who were talking about okay what if you were intrigued and maybe turned on by me talking about these erotic circuit boards then you also have to be somewhat red-flagged and starting to cringe and go where how old is this get arranged in what are the incentives and how do you how do you manage the Eagles and how do you who’s in charge it’s like you can’t it’s a scary thing but you wouldn’t work but that’s why when I went when I say what I realized for me the aha moment in my sexual career was that if I want to have out-of-the-box sex I have to pay lots of money for it from professionals who have trained her nervous system to do theater performance of sexuality as escorts or as Dom’s or as porn performers because they’re good sports they’re not spoil Sports about any of the stuff for the most part if they’re treated well and respected and then contracts are here too and they know what they’re getting into and hopefully they’ve matured and hopefully their brain has developed to its full capacity IE the age that it takes to actually I don’t say that to you exactly so you better know there’s a dimension of Ethics when it comes to harvesting teenagers for your for whatever Annette and I have had some of the best sex in my life as a 30 year old being fucked up fucked senseless by teenager in a row in a monogamous relationship and I will I will tell you that it’s it some it was worth the daddy issues that I had to deal with it was worth reparenting her and it was worth every bit of emotional kind of awkwardness that there wasn’t some of the an Amex because she was such a good full spirited Prime late night it was funny cuz I was like I want to settle you down and basically like I could teach your making a kid with ADHD sit in class is like no she wants to fuck wildly she wants you to perform more than you possibly ever could even at 30 and and she and she is not she doesn’t need these esoteric practices too heavy multi-orgasmic she’s fucking coming or brains out like so hard and I and I couldn’t sit her down the aisle still enough to do any of the practices that I thought were going to be so enlightening and went in the great thing is is it a fuck it like it is certain point you just say no guru there’s a song about it’s like no guru no no scripture No play just in the Dow of the thing so anyway so that’s a side note to say there is a sacred place for adult for fully mature brain develop adults to be having sex with teenagers and and I know that it can be done because I’ve done it but it also takes you can’t just treat them like a commodity please you got to you got to think about pedagogy Nikki learned from the person that you’re teaching teaches you things to like a circle so then so we’re talking about these ethics and where I wanted to just close that point about how I do my best to not be a cult leader I thought I figured it out pretty simply and correct me if I’m wrong but basically it’s it’s I dare you to to indict me for the the criminal and civil liability of misconduct for for for structuring a certain way so this is how I this is this is very simple as this is like this I said that this is a different the difference from a cult leader is that I’m a porn director I pay women to be directed and then I pay whoever I want to I will I will I will choose performers who I resonate with for whatever we would like to do together to make beautiful art and and I will compensate them and pay them to take time out of their lives to be a part of my design and to be directed by me they’re not paying me for healing for enlightenment for direction for guidance and I’m directing them and Meghan gratifying myself and taking their money in convincing mind fucking them and taking more of their money and more than money until they don’t talk to their friends because of and that’s how Colts are basically extractive from their students the colors are extracting from their devotees the difference is how many colors do you know that actually give their devotees money I will pay you oh now I’m making corned a porn director and I am more karmically correct than the fucking Guru who is fucking having people kiss his feet and take your money so who would have thought that the corn directors were the most enlightening Yogi’s to ever attempt to be divine and I have my favorites and I’m a fan of some of them I want I want to see the names but right now but that cuz I wouldn’t want to leave any out you know what I mean bless you all for paying people to direct them into your Twisted fucking fantasies and giving them that dignity like hats of their not wondering about it cuz there’s that was having a conversation today it’s like a buyer’s remorse if I say to you I’m just saying if you remember when you had to if you were old enough to know that there was a day when when when your allowance equals one CD for $15 so humorous if you never had experience this is important I think this is important teaching is important teachable moment is that is that and I don’t want to be today. Take care no man’s planning anything in them to have fun here but this is like this is this is late so here’s the funny thing though you think about I remember what it was like when I had to convince myself that amusing that a CD that fucking sucked was actually good because I paid money for it and I would not let myself suffer the indignity of having made a mistake so I was in a state of denial and delusion so so so feeling this isn’t meditation okay everybody think of something that you paid money for that you discovered was in the zoo is suboptimal and you used mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you actually liked it even though you knew deeply that you didn’t like it but it was called buyer’s remorse it was called the sunk cost fallacy of sunk cost fallacy is that because you invested something into this you have to continue beyond the point of no return because you can’t live with yourself other ways so that is this Twisted perverse placebo effect that happens when it’s like I went to the sex guru to get healed and he said for 9999 I would get here and but I but I could also upsell to the bonus extra double healing deluxe super Cosmic Crystal trademark excetera right thing and try before you buy money back guarantee accessories that you’re all of his legal he’s in fine print all the stuff but there is but that’s where it is we’re expecting to have some result that you paid money for and you will question whether or not okay did I was a hole in my heel did I pay enough money to pay more and some money and it is it distorts things and you did it it did contaminated in a way for that so I’m skeptical that I can be done right in that sense and that’s just me so what I say let’s work in the garden together my time equals your time and now we’re planting trees equals an hour of Yoni massage your prostate massage and therefore it’s a flat equal everybody has the same it’s his first come first serve you know and orgasms for work shirts that was my hand jobs for Humanity and helping a tree with two or so you’ll see it yeah it’s a white paper was written so is he ever gets faster so so that’s how I’m not going to be a cult leader is that I’m not going to charge people money to be Pawns in my game of or are you going to be players in my Game of Thrones Township Township twister you will get paid handsomely to be in my theater my game of Township twister and you can quit you can get any time you know that’s that’s that’s the thing to you won’t be like oh if I walk away now you know that then where I’m not like what I paid for I’m I’m already invested so much forever so so many different dynamics of of incentivization happening in this thing is so anyway that that was I think it is important to lay that out and and this is probably the first time I’ve articulated it on the podcast but I just was having this conversation today with this answer the CD metaphor thing where it’s like you know it did that it’s it’s a problem that way so so that’s I will not be extracting money from people in that in that way I’d rather pay them to be in my in my Productions and feel better about it that way so getting back to the fun stuff in the production itself so imagining that that would be the way from now on where I’m like if you want to that’s basically what I just described about that circuit of three people as a minimum to starting point is like that is the that is first base now you know that’s first base because getting into the circuitry of actual intercourse that’s where it required that’s where we get into the medical the medical responsibilities aspects and we get into more of the karmic sharing we’re really swapping scum he’s on an astral level at that point more so than if it’s an outercourse thing and you can’t go back once you know I don’t want to sound like a prepaid only sound like a six- future but but they were right about this mean you’re not wrong about everything they’ve had no sex for anybody ever. Is not the solution to people having sexually transmitted demons running rampant all over the place and it’s about making them your friends and making them work for you not against you and making them expose themselves properly and in you know where it’s not a pure realm we are not going to be perfectly protected in fear we can strive for that and we can use Kundalini and Prana and mantras and all of our medicines in purgatives and things to create a cleaner vessel to make more harmonious more resonance more signal-to-noise ratio and that is what to me this is all about and why we are missing out so badly to not be like I see this if God is wanted you got it for not created to nipples I can’t suck both nipples at the same time I tried some women I can do it on I’ve done it and you can do it some women is possible but for the most part so what does that mean what are you do do you limit God or do you just find someone else to be on the left or right side of you you know what is the big deal so when I think about this math equation how many erotic how many out of the box meaning not really the selective like subjective nuanced little erogenous zones that people get overtime in our lives but the out-of-the-box everybody is wired this way count how many erogenous zones you have and how what is the minimum number of mouse penis and genitals or fingers are human appendages required to simultaneously stimulate all those places it’s more than one person I can tell you that much you know so I just want us to start there and be creative in 2N to learn how to understand that we’re missing out and we should be wanting to gamify maximizing human potential for orgasmic pleasure because that is exorcism orgasm equals exorcism in some cultures who are Les Les Mis Sara Lee poetic about the floury discourse of symbols about sex life like a Latin American Shaman is said about her sexuality in the end in her how she explained why monogamous marriage was not really a thing in a culture that permitted extramarital sex and it was that in her mind and I am not going to say her name to cool her but I will say to paraphrase the essence of this wisdom is that to her mind it was just like an orgasm is like taking out the trash and that is not that’s not to say that it is mundane or a chore it is that it is a responsibility of hygiene in your household of your body Temple you need to have orgasms they need to be fulfilling need to get the job done and that is the exorcism aspect of it so the howling screeching all of these things that are considered that witches were burned forming figli sounds that those are the sounds of actual Holiness the set of holy the sound of Holiness is a woman’s orgasm and so let’s make those come more abundantly and let’s utilize map map the erogenous zones out of the box and then map the additional ones that are my favorite song and when you talk to me like this and this certain place I’m in the back of my head there whatever and then everyone has their own map so we can learn each other’s maps and if you don’t know your own map then you can ask people to help you there’s people who would love to lick and kiss and touch you and head to toe to find and explore you and and from a breasted state of consciousness D nice and yes I like to will you bring out the best in me that’s all I think that’s all you guys add that I can’t top that is the way to end so then really that was we didn’t even know that we put the icing on the motherfuking cake by saying you bring out the Best in Me so there was a documentary about at the peak of my desire to become a a rock star in the the crust Punk metal genre grindcore all that fun stuff I was studying that I wanted to understand and clock the music industry so I was watching every documentary I could find understanding music marketing and all the stuff and then I found this great documentary about about Jimi Hendrix and and I believe it was his fiance at a time who later became his wife if I remember correctly and she was talking about the time where he was building momentum and getting lots of gigs but still underground and she said something that stuck with me forever and if this moment which is it basically the hidden tension was used turn Express yeah we we all knew he was going to get sign or we all knew that you was going to take off he was going to blow up and so she said it was just about if someone puts put the icing on the motherfuking cake you know and I know and I felt that we we’re ready for that and we did some we had some we had some ice and get put on a motherfuking cake we did you get you always want more but I look back and I don’t think we could handle more so we got what we got and now I’m on a different I have a different cake I have a different cake mix and I don’t know if it’s that time I don’t know if it’s time to put the icing on the cake or not yeah I don’t know I mean the cake it’s getting cold she heard it mean if you’d if anyone has icing out there can it please be stevia-sweetened go Steven Johnson I don’t know how to hack them will work on that today I know it’s actually what I heard is that it’s a weird additive that they used to cut it because it’s so super sweet that you would basically died of sweetness if you didn’t like the step on it with some other things so I think that’s why I love growing Stevia and having a leaf to munch on and put in the tea because then you know is nothing else being put into it and it’s just as powerful you don’t really need to if you had the the live leaves one leaf enough will be enough to knock your head off for an hour so yeah I know on that snow yeah we’re going to put this devious fresh leave puree motherfuking icing on the cake I will put the icing on my own motherfuking cake that reminds me in 1 minute I just when I thought we couldn’t go out with a bigger bang this is going to be at because there was a a ritual ceremonial I called we called apart emoni where was the Psychedelic birthday party and we smeared cake all over each other and had to basically devour for the birthday gal of her own cake and it was just nipples and asses and I wanted to be in after from there I was my breasts Elsa. Playing for sure that brother and brother best me for sure but that when I got to put the icing on cake my damn self so don’t let anyone fucking tell you that you’re not none of me if you feel like it I mean I think we’re done I just can’t I’m going to fucking drop my phone right now when I might drop my phone on the couch citizen of the count but oh shit it’s next level add icy Cipher geise that’s going to have some cake with that icing okay thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day