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Permaculture, Futurism, Techno-Optimism, Pessimism, and Realism Part 2 TPP254

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In this episode I share part one of a commentary I did on the Ray Kurzweil documentary Transcendent Man

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

What mollison said in the beginning of in grave danger of falling food, basically that some of us have the dream of colonizing space, I don’t think we’d be very welcome guests if we defoul our own planet

if that is the final frontier, that hasn’t been destroyed or polluted and colonized, male ego oriented curiosity

if we go out into the intergalactic ecology, seek out new life and civilizations will we have skeletons in our closet, if we can responsibly redirect the momentum of the tech, and apply them to our defouled nest, after a few generations maybe a few millennia, proving we can responsibly our apply our gifts and genius to enhance our home native garden planet

I wish someone would come down, classic alien ufo archetype, we’ve got all your solutions right here, but we’ve got some stipulations first, first repair the damage, redistribute wealth, you have a blue print called permaculture

when we come back in 1000 years, you’ve cleaned up your mess, then we’ll give you what some of you desire so feverishly, that would be supreme cosmic justice, if that carrot can be dangled from a higher technological force

maybe a civilization that had come to maturity, reconciliation of masculine and feminine energy, habitat of their own planet

shamanic accounts of encounters with extradimensional entities that have succeeded in all these ways

similar growing pains in consciousness and tech, became ethical and utopian

overcome patriarchy

it’s taken for granted, so embedded, patriarchy in the course of tech evolution in the language of mankind, even transcendent man, male dominant technological trajectory

take for granted that it’s human destiny to leave the planet, even that tendency is gender bound, if you acknowledge that the majority of mechanization, last few thousands years, male centered,

less scientific, more philosophical, terence mckenna’s novelty theory, 16 billion years evolution of known universe, first types of matter, complexifying into more complex forms, the building blocks of life, spiral of transformation, does seem to have a constant mathematical laws governing it in some way

it became epigenetic in the hands of human consciousness, considering the human neocortex to be the most complex and interconnected, dense artifact in the known world, evolution of consciousness into form

breaking the genetic biological evolution, from our imagination into our tools and machines

both mckenna and kurzweil saying it’s a natural law, acceleration is happening, dropping down from the genetic matrix into human hands

all accept that, we have been gifted with the power, and the responsibility to carry forth that accelerating curve of evolution, don’t think it was handed to the male, but the patriarchal power structure, social structures have been the dominant force that have been in place since that last few 1000 years

thought experiment, are we destined to explore outer space, if you look at eco feminist perspective

male dominant patriarchal society, some of critiques I’ve heard, why would we want to leave, this is our home, the urge to leave it would be a absurd

if you’re living in a totally nourishing edenic state of abundance, consciousness all of desires being met with immediate ecology, look out in distance, past a desert, would you really want to risk it, why would we want to go to mars, why go suffer and be there just to say that we did it, to put the flag down

different kinds of eco feminist, I’m more of an essentialist, inherent biological connection to earth from human female perspective, some arguments, males are disconnected from the life cycle, they don’t carry a child, don’t menstruate, aren’t affected by moon as much, not as intuitive, separated estranged male ego to build vast enterprises of machine technology, alien to the program of life on earth

ability for that trajectory to be directed by the estranged half of the species, leads to desire to colonize mars because we defouled our own planet

let’s say all of that acceleration of returns, I like the way kurzweil said it, not quoting, platform of tools and tech at one stage, become the means to develop the next stage, that law holds true for building blocks of life, of matter, and so on to human designed technologies, if we look at all those accelerated returns from 16 billion years ago, big bang, all of those returns up until 100k years ago when humans really started to take on that curve of accelerated returns if we just look at that last segment where humans started, the last few 1000s years, the returns that have happened are totally rooted in patriarchal agendas of controlling matter, territory, warfare all these very alienated from nature types of agendas, thought experiment what would it look like, not suggesting matriarchal, just a partnership, partnership vs dominator societies, more elegant way of confronting patriarchy, there are partnership modes and dominator modes

shamanically guided hunter gather bands, foraging societies, in most ways equal, did not have dominating power dynamics, resources, sexuality

only in the last few thousands years since dominator culture emerged,

we’d still have the same amount of change, and develop if we had the partnership way

the permaculture dream, end point on earth, super hyper advanced rate in next few years/decades, I consider that to be the more feminine possible utopian future, we direct all that will, curiosity, to making a good home for ourselves on earth, really master that, from that foundation that platform, if there is that will to go live on a desert planet for no reason, so be it, but you’ll have to do it through astral projection, but to destroy your home planet, captain of space ship earth, misogynist prick sacrifice all of nature for these totally corrupt conquests of dimension

Permaculture, Futurism, Techno-Optimism, Pessimism, and Realism Part 1 TPP253

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In this episode I share part one of a commentary I did on the Ray Kurzweil documentary Transcendent Man

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

innocense of getting into science

geniuses that could be reached, extremely high level stuff

hip to environmental technologies

nano solar technology

once you get the download of the permaculture conceptual framework it becomes a lens you can apply to all different aspects of reality

social, personal, ecological, all these different landscapes

exciting when can share that skill set, that tool kit with other people who have different backgrounds, apply to their core competency

if kurzweil, had that imprint of permaculture

imagine how his algorithmic thinking about exponentiality and the potential of hyperspeed implementation of these technologies on the horizon

if that level of awareness and direction, genetics, nanotech, and robotics, leading to singularity, I was thinking about diy, there’s potential

kurzweil’s law of accelerating returns, anything is possible at this point, when I was watching beyond sustainability on youtube with david holmgren, inevitability of peak oil, unless a sci fiction outcome happens, energy source to power current and growing demands, that would be the only way we wouldn’t have to experience involuntary simplicity

immediately I thought, that is a factor, if anybody is going to ask is that possible or what would that look like, it would be someone like kurzweil, who’s crunching the data

making logical predictions, conclusions not widely accepted, anything is possible state of mind

getting that introduction to his data and his outlook, gave me a lot of hope, a good medicine, not a full antedote, but a medicine for the people getting depressed by the grim prospects

even the people doing the great work to install permaculture landscapes, its the most invigorating medicine you can have

the odds aren’t against us if you look at kurweil’s perspective, anything really is possible, the nano-solar implementation, a big problem of course is that even if there really was a major new energy source unveiled,

it would require the re-engineering of all the infrastructure people have, always will be haves and have nots even if there’s a new wave of technology

because of the socio-economics of the way the world is structured under patriarchal industrial capitalism,

distribution is not gonna be equal, the other 90%

futuristic sci fi perspective, feel 3 different variants, 1 being mad max version, 1 be blade runner, 1 would be star trek version

in mad max, you have the failure of the singularity delivering us from all of our problems, perfecting all of our weaknesses,

techno-pessimistic perspective, we’re not gonna make it

in the star trek world, that is the scenario where, I don’t know how much they deal with what actually happened on earth, but you get the idea from the star trek legacy, they were able to solve problems with technological innovation

techno utopian future, battles with different interests throughout the universe, but earths’ evolution of technology led in a positive, utopian direction

then in the middle, I’m more in sync with, the blade runner, cyber punk techno dystopia, corporate fascist,

all owned, proprietary, owned , locked down, corporate controlled, suffer in toxic hell on earth, if you can’t afford, implants, filters, get on board escape pods, haves vs have nots

meeting in the middle of kurzweil techno optimism, I don’t think it’s totally likely that we’ll have across the board complete decimation of modern society, and return to a barbaric mode, iron age, bronze age, chiefdom societies

what mad max portrays is what did exist for 1000s of years of early civilization, settled societies, food producers, ransacked by hordes, unable to maintain national boundaries with air strikes and massive military, order of law, international commerce

total collapse, partial collapse,

digitized food, digitized clean area, nano everything, robotic everything

I was really impressed with the time lines, it came to my mind, if you could do a time lapse on human implements, watch them shrink from giant medieval, carriages, cuneiform, glyphs, the scale of computation, transportation, all kinds of different devices and machines and time lapse that so that at a certain point it gets smaller and smaller until it disappears and become invisible

tightening spiral of evolution and change, totally makes sense, the frontier of nano machines

I’m pretty convinced, if that trajectory of exponential shrinking of machines is upheld then we can expect to have this nano frontier to be working with

if the political will was there to be doing things like soil remediation and soil building and all that kinda good stuff, way more interested in that than creating nano blood cells, and expanding human life span to be immortal

my critique of kurzweil on that level is that, he would do well to study shamanism, an earth bound orientation to being an organism, shamanic traditions, its okay to die, what’s after death isn’t that scary, there’s ways to encounter the after life while you’re alive so you’re not afraid of it

I feel free grotesque aspirations about messing with human life span, the way we fight disease, understanding that there are precedents in human history, living in ways appropriate for the ecosystem, humble the male ego, that just can’t be a peace

he talked a lot about the suboptimality of the human organismic design and programming from a dna perspective, not my area of interest

I’d much rather solve the issues that affect life on earth period, not extending the human life span, not buy our way out of the natural consequences of being out of balance on a personal level, why you have disease

all for using tech to help people, but giving someone the ability to cheat the consequences of lack of exercise, poor diet, out of balance with local ecology, distribution of wealth and opportunity throughout the world

those are my ethical boundaries

if he of all people had permaculture principle, ethical framework installed

something else I really get, gram bell, permaculture way, the spiral of intervention, a few ethical procedural, methodological points to it

having to do with problems on the landscape, predators, disease, the largest part of the spiral the base of it, would be to do nothing, wait and see if problem solves itself, next stage would be mechanical intervention, biological, intervention, last of all chemical, if you’re looking at solving problems in a food production landscape, example of predators eating your life stock, you could do nothing and see if it balances out

happened upon a documentary called collapse, based on Jared Diamond’s work, how societies choose to succeed or fail, focusing on the ones that collapsed and one’s that were facing collapse but were able to turn it around

sentiment I thought of for a while, when all these high civilization’s we’re at there peak, moments away from total collapse, hyper extension throughout the landscape, everything coming down to deforestation, water supply issues, all rooted in misuse of the landscape, creating surplus not returning to the landscape, or the people, all funneled to the ruling elite, work on the collapse of societies

they would not have dared imagined that they were so close to the edge

the ruling elite acknowledges the threats but not taking it seriously enough

we have this faith in science and technology to rescue us, depending on how much you bury your head into the data

so I’m all on board with the potential, techno optimistic positive singularity potential

as some one who studies survivalism, looks at barriers to those infinite possibilities, let’s say without serious friction the rate of change will continue to increase, all those frontiers of genetics, nano tech, and robotics will flower and unfold, feel sick to even use that metaphor, but if this truly is to be the flowering of human consciousness, I feel very alienated from earth, very dangerous, extreme forms of violence, warfare, I would much rather this would not unfold, but I don’t think it’s possible, save by divine intervention, a massive plauge, we were so close, so close, if there would have just been another couple years of cheap energy and water, these institutions developing these technologies and these frontiers, we would have gotten to that point of technological salvation, or infinite possibilities in those spheres

we pushed the limits so far, its not assured, it’s not guaranteed, that trajectory is not gonna be clothes lined and immediately fall because of how far stretched

if only we’d learned from the mistakes of previous civilizations that have collapsed at the peak of their technological prowess

the fact is, the thing that’s most pressing to me is we are so abundantly aware of how previous civilizations have collapsed, total hubris towards natural limits, breaking laws of nature to build these empires, then getting smacked down immediately and losing huge chunks of information to illiteracy in the dark ages, and entropy and erosion, the decay of texts and whatnot

in life after people the history channel series, they showed how the information technology that we have built up will have the least longevity in the face of natural entropy, we can’t control the climate of our documents, can’t keep the sunlight out, the buildings start cracking, all the digital information storage, almost immediately dissolved, it was the civilizations that used stone media to tell there stories and to keep their histories, that will actually be what lasts, a big part of me thinks that, as arrogant as previous collapsed society was and to think of what was on their technological horizon at the point that they got smacked down, it was probably just as grandiose, they could have achieved their hopes and dreams if they hadn’t outstripped their resources, warfare over resources, social psychological question, more than a mechanical technological one, will the population of the earth have a paradigm shift

the paradigm shift is the wild card factor, is that paradigm shift possible, we know its possible to have power and control, but whether or not people rise up to create that paradigm shift in ethics and principles, permaculture will be the most powerful intervention to that trajectory and help really give us a chance at a positive future

Designing Conscious Music, Film, and Fashion with Calvin Bliss TPP212

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In this episode I’m joined by my dear friend and creative brother Calvin Bliss for an exploration of his personal and our shared conscious designer multi media projects. We take a journey into the past to remember the great times that bonded us on the dance floor, in the garden, in the music studio, and beyond. It was an exquisite joy to take the time to really honor where we’ve come from, what we’ve accomplished, and how we’ve influenced each other’s evolution as artists.

We then explore his “Deep Inside” track, it’s origin story, a behind the scenes on the music video shoot, and general advice and technical insight on the art of film making and music production.

His new clothing line Elf Tech is introduced and he shares about his journey into the ure, fashion and apparel space as an extension and evolution of his diverse influences in art, culture, spirituality, community, neo-tribalism, eco-futurism, and more.

About Calvin:

Calvin Bliss, AKA: Photon A.D. has been writing music for over a decade, splicing mind-bending glitch grooves over surreal soundscapes overlaying a funky beat. His performances focus on the genres of psybreaks, breakbeat, psytrance, and tech-house. He has played prestigious festivals such as the international Tribal Gathering in Panama, as well as a renegade cruise ship party and a set at the Brown Vortex on Halloween.

Photon A.D. takes his listeners on a journey through sound into the core of their being, uniting minds and hearts in an optimized flow space, fueled by his love for yoga and expanding consciousness.

Among manifesting a delectable dance music career, Calvin also has interest in filmmaking and directed his own music video for “Deep Inside,“ a feature Photon A.D. production. When he isn’t in the studio, Calvin enjoys practicing yoga and attained a Yoga Teacher Training certificate in Rishikesh, India.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin Calvin blessed who has lots of wonderful wisdom and stories to share and we’re going to reminisce a little bit about our origin story together and in the very important. Powerful instrumental role he’s played in in my journey and just want to start off by saying that we both met within the the Psychedelic trance music underground in La back around 2011 and shared a lot of action and envisionary Consciousness around the potential that side trance can have to really help people heal and grow and build community and yeah we’ve been able to collaborate on music and just support each other really is Brothers over the course of many years and so yeah what stands out to you or anything you want you like to share about the early days and now it’s been a few years since we’ve been we’ve been going at it cast of ever been on so yeah thanks for your warm Hospitality but yeah I mean already back in the day and I remember it basically I was like sitting on my couch and I knew this party was going on and I was like I would say I was leaning like 40% towards going and like 60% towards not going and then for whatever reason I just decided to go and yeah and then it was a pretty cool party and then I met you there and I think I just like interrupted some conversation you were having with someone because I heard something interesting you were talking about and then yeah that kind of decision just get off the couch they’re like really kind of changed the definitely the course of my own how way I think about things and lots of other stuff so right on. Yeah I remember that night like it was yesterday and we were talking about really applied psytrance early in a sense of ever being like an open source technology where you could be it could be applying these beats and applying this Rhythm and energy to to actually build Villages build ecovillages together and and take it Beyond just the experience of the dance floor and actually put it to practical use sand in life in and we were just always gives out on kind of hacking site transfer for cultural transfer patient and it’s been a wild adventure since then and certainly you know we’ve added a lot to each other’s lives and I say you know I haven’t felt so much camaraderie in the music kind of romance since I was an early teenager getting in the punk rock and metal you know since then I’ve kind of like lost the passion for those movements to feel like there’s two alcohol and too much on consensual sexuality and just kind of kind of tired and stale politics and but yeah I meant to find to find a really rejuvenating invigorating life-affirming new paradigm / ancient Paradigm of shamanic trance techno music that was conducive to Tantra and conducive to yoga all that stuff matters like a whole new I don’t know who I would be or where I would be without you without you know having share this experience and and I haven’t really shared that experience with too many other people a lot of people you meet on the psytrance dance for you know you’re all in it in the moment you’re all in that present moment but but you don’t always connect outside of that you don’t always you know buddy up beyond that so I just want to again there’s some quote where like you know two people are like these chemical substances you know and their interaction like makes this totally new saying you know this anyway I probably super butcher that quote that says we not the quote but you know it’s just there’s some people that like ignite the spark with each other and yeah I’m really happy to have met you back then and now do you remember that sting you made it was like we’re sitting in the room at this Ranch you’re working on and you’re just telling me about this idea and I think we’re kind of like just expanding this idea together but just of like having sort of like a way to listen to music and do like work together and like we’re like all but we don’t have any speakers blah blah blah and then I was amazed because you just like likes for me like I was just like this like really bad idea but then I see you like in 5 minutes like I’m going to get some tea and I come back and you’re like on a computer hacking some stuff together with some Skype thing and like you like literally made the thing that was just like the idea to me and I think that’s that’s really cool like you know that that you can just kind of connect those ideas like to actually a the physical working thing is that at that point in my life honestly like I had so many just kind of dreams that we’re just like well yeah that be a really cool idea or you know stuff like that but like yeah you definitely kind of opened up the door way to showing me like some of these ideas we have are actually you know a lot easier to execute them that I would think so yeah that was really cool system like we were the couple that what you’re saying it’s like I would not have probably done it and I needed you and I needed that sense of you know it’s like being kids and figuring out that you can put a what connect a wire to two two cans of beans and have telecoms across your ear tree houses and talk after your bedtime you know it was that level of fort building excitement you know me as a mutual a mutual thing like you said and back actually when I was playing playing in Punk and metal bands it was me and this other guitarist and pee in one time somebody who said man you guys are like peanut butter and jelly and it’s a good way of putting it but but yeah man for sure that that was the vibe and and yes might my my kind of mad scientist ideas like Doc Brown kind of idea was to be able to synchronize and create a more harmonious workflow and prevent injuries on like permaculture landscape installations were if you have work Crews shoveling meal together to try to keep it afloat if they don’t bang shovels or or scrape each other and in the end he certainly when you’re turning your back and lifting and things you know the more Rhythm you can have working in teams the better and that’s proven out through all of all of the traditional cultures in the world is still have songs and works on his or whatnot so we can see what we lack that in the West for sure at this point it’s been kind of kicked in crushed out of us but I had this passion about side translate well we could so beautiful and we do not ask for what if we could do that in the garden what if we could do that it when we’re building structures in building ecovillages it would be so great but but we need a way to actually also communicate and you can’t the music is pound and then you won’t have the ability to like communicate verbally about safety or about you know just on a construction site you wouldn’t want to be specially if someone is on the other side of the top of your lungs over the music to try to like talk to them for solving that problem technically was the notion of what what if we can use this early stage smartphone technology to actually run a Skype call and and use it as a third-party plugin to to synchronize and load an MP3 file cuz you couldn’t just like stink it up across a hundred people but they had that thing at the time I think of Silent disco but I don’t think the silent disco had like a walkie-talkie intercom build then so this was this was a hack to get that to happen and then I remembered the moment that that we tested it is like I think something you know it took a couple of tweaks and it kind of work and I didn’t work and then when it fucking works like a football field away from each other doing separate tasks in the Garland jamming to the same beat at the same time and and dancing and talking and it having it be the dream the dream come true my love I think I think that was just a row it’s like 10 minutes before and then it’s like whoa this is really working like dude you’re a genius right now and like like to just literally like I’ve seriously felt like you know like a kid on Christmas because I was like wow I’m dancing to this awesome music right now my friend over there like way over there is dancing the same as you basically built like a silent disco thing which you know those setups are like pretty costly and you’re really technical the bill but you basically built one and then not only that we had this intercom thing to where we could like actually talk to each other and yeah it was like so cool the old dude like check out these lasers on this song and then yeah so that was like really cool so that was my first experience with realizing how how genius you are and how you can like really start creating that reality that I think I think it’s not just you and me and a lot of other people have started kind of like having these glimpses of these visions of this kind of like new paradigm and it was like you had just like turn that glimpse into like wow this is her real tangible experience and it really honestly like can we like what apps are million times more you know advanced in and have to look into it again I just it’s been weird just haven’t been bouncing around so much not having a the real playground to be able to to on that that 16 acre acre ranch to be able to to to really the only thing we couldn’t do there was actually blast the side which I have I don’t think you have I think you have we had just yet you had just barely missed that and are aware I was doing an urban Garden Inn in La I built this whole garden go basically like a burning man style camp on the top of the asphalt at this South Central LA giant Punk Warehouse complex and artist complex and and and there because of the industrial zoning I was allowed to bump the psytrance pretty much 24/7 I don’t know how the people didn’t kill me for getting sick of it but they let me they let me get away with that get away with it and I saw pictures and then some footage there but but that was where I had gotten in that zone if I had just been spending like a year literally bumping psytrance everyday and gardening with it like the secret life of plants and knowing that the whole ecosystem is just totally vibing on and people just watching people come in there and start dancing and fucking shaking it you know shaking the booty chakras and like grabbing some strawberries and just having it all be such an organic thing but but yeah this is like I think it’s all foreshadowing and you know to I was just is this sounded is not more watching you work and you’re a wizard castle of a of a studio making beats and then just dazzling me with your crafts and a video production in and just damn that we just had we have had continually have these bucket list of things to accomplish I think you know yeah I just want to make another note about how you really helps the music of Township on get started from the very first track and you were a Believer you were the first and and and only as Spirit Tasha Punk believer even when I didn’t have the confidence to to believe it would go anywhere or do anything but I certainly felt like I had I had been burdened with this track. I didn’t know what to do with us and you helped put the first beats to it and and yeah we had a sort of creative adventure with Sue Fiona and that that is is held up to this day and really yeah you’re part of that core Collective man so it is really I was like cool that sounds awesome like psytrance goddess worship with awesome vocals Like lyrics like that’s pretty different and honestly though at this at this point I think maybe this is about honestly like a year and a half or two years after I really started producing music so I always kind of just starting to get comfortable with like all this technology I used to actually make the music but I think the one thing that kind of really helped help with that process was I would when I would start like a new song or something I would always like right down on a piece of paper what my intention was for that song Or kind of like what I wanted it to represent or the feelings involved or like yeah like the feeling I wanted to invoke with people so I was super happy to help you and try it and yeah basically we ended up in like my tiny little closet Studio up in this literal Castle in Malibu is on a Mountaintop is pretty cool but yeah we recorded vocals and we ended up trying to do it but then I actually asked you to write down your intention and I was like kind of expecting it to be like you know like oh here’s like a little a little blurb of an intention but your intention was so thorough and like is so details and it it took up accutire page of paper but I think just setting that intention like actually I I think what happened is I didn’t quite have the technical jobs still like finish that song with you I was just you know getting lost in the error messages on the computer stuff and more like some weird thing would happen right so I didn’t end up really finishing that song with you but I think like that process of setting that intention when when we are beginning I think that helps like carry the song onto and I like its next few incarnations yeah that was the that was the garage days that was the the demo version and then someone who came through the psytrance community who who was our an elder to us really in it and someone who has actually like a professional sound designer sound engineer professional mat McHugh he is just one of those guys at that level and he he had I baste a week that’s almost like we did that demo and then he was almost like the equivalent of Capitol Records taking over engine producing at United mean so like we were I wish I would have been nothing without you and then nothing without me and then and then really nothing without him all the stuff works and you know we’ve always said we’re always on a destiny if you know there’s another I remember one time once I started for sing in Fruity Loops you know I was really really primitive and really having no clue whatsoever but you sent you sent you don’t not been producing too much PSI for a while and then you busted out this track that have this really haunting but really enchanting melody in and I totally ripped off of that end in and kind of started to try to figure out how to replicate the bass sounds and and get that sort of thumb that semi distorted it is it’s been a lot of fun just exploring the art form and sharing ideas and and you’ve come so far and I am still so far I mean not too early but it’s like yeah you you got the chops man and so do you want to talk about four people NCAA you know how that goes because yeah I think I’m definitely way more knowledgeable with the software and everything and yeah I was thinking of psytrance man I I heard your new album just the other day and I congrats man it’s great it’s that had some really awesome like moments in their eyes just like shaking My Butt Went Psycho to see you come quiet quiet quite a ways since like you know not even producing stuff yourself at all to like during like what three albums now like yeah it’s awesome so yeah congrats on that or you in that at all. Thank you mental it again all comes back to that that Brotherhood that we shared and me watching you work and me just fucking being blown away and be like I got to learn how to do that like skater like I said skaters skaters who show up and now I got the new kickflip you know I’m like no way I got a fucking to get that down you know what I mean so there’s that healthy expiration competition of like trying to keep each other sharp on things and and yeah man like you the I became such a purist with psytrance that I just got across many different genres do you want to talk talk about your let’s talk about your your Evolution and in float on a d and raffle should be looking at how they can check into Canadian really varied interests in electronic music for quite a while and I think when I met you I was just like sort of coming off this like dubstep typed vibe and personally I had kind of a big issue with dubstep at the time because it was just really I think I think that the phrase they used to describe it is called Transformer vomit but there was a lot of things that I just felt it was just overly harsh and overly sort of masculine energy so I kind of in my inner ear I had kind of started hearing auditory vision of a new type of dubstep that would be I don’t know what sort of a blend between like that kind of heavy sound and then also sort of like some of those really cool technical sound because even though like I don’t really like that sort of like Transformer vomit type music like those producers have crazy sound design skills makes things that are so unbelievably cool sounding and so I wanted to like try to integrate some of those really a great Sonic elements and then with sort of like back to the actual roots of like what dubstep music is a little bit more like like more slowly heavily moving really learning you know how to do all this stuff because it’s pretty wild I mean if if you’ve never opened up one of these digital audio workstations and you have literally zero doing that like it’s it’s like a whole another language and it’s there so many different parameters to learn and figure out like what does what and I mean the learning curve is seriously Steve so yeah I think you it seems like you’ve totally got in through now like who’s actually hard part where it just feels like you’re fighting the machine to where you’re actually like it was a channel your ideas so yeah with this dubstep album that was called love blast and that was basically like my kind of like first you know album where I think I really had a pretty solid understanding of how everything works together actually I don’t know what happened but I just had a big shift and I just kind of the dubstep I was listening to just started feeling really dark and I sort of had a brief until like it’s called Deep dubstep and it’s kind of like I just left like that Transformer vomit stuff and very more like auditorily pleasing sounds like really nice and smooth Butters very dark and I just I don’t know like I just started to feel like it was just kind of like this like really ominous can I like yucky energy still but in a like a less obvious way than the other type of dubstep so I basically was like okay no pun done with this and I pretty much had another one eighty but then I made a small little glitch hop album and glitch hop is it’s a little bit more funky than dubstep music and little bit faster speed too and so that was really cool by I remember it was actually pretty funny because I would always like send you stuff to check out and if you if it wasn’t psytrance you would always just be like yeah you know that’s pretty cool but like can you make some psytrance please Lou and I’m like when psytrance Wednesday and experimenting with different stuff as I like focus on sort of one jonra here and there that you produce so far to me that had that what I really go for most of all with that you were blessed to also have like this parallel gift of a of a female vocalist just into your sister field and so we almost I now that I think about it I don’t think I’ve ever thought for this two together but we really are prayers were answered you know we wanted to bring in that shocked the energy masculine hyper-masculine music forms and have a real talent there that wasn’t just lifting samples to meditation CD you always end up hearing the same ones recycled by bunch of different producers and and and where is the where are the afentika aprotic female vocalist from different cultural Traditions are tribal tradition tradition is it actually show up in the studio and record over the beasts that you’re making him both of us had that authentic experience and it was both a very organic so that’s why would I want to say that track that we work together that are the music video that I was blessed to join you in participating in that track was it is really a nice sounding tea set that transcends genres you want to give us sort of the behind-the-scenes on that whole journey and and certainly which of the music video and the female vocalist like I love those stories of synchronicity in for sure for sure so yeah actually I was at Lucidity Festival which is it’s definitely one of my favorite festivals there’s actually not that much psytrance there but they do have some psytrance but just the overall vibe there is it’s really nice and so I was in my happy place just so you know doing my festival thing and kind of like walks by these two women sitting there and like why was kind of like maybe I should go to talk with them or I don’t know like and then one of them just said hey come and talk with us that’s pretty cool like awesome like really friendly vibe there so yeah I came over and turned out one of them is a vocalist and her name is Alex and you know it was telling her how like I make music I’m always you know looking for vocalist and I think this is a point in my life where I had just gone through this like realisation that you can make such a more rich and enormous sound when you how many voices coming together to create that so I was really like like open to collaborating with like almost anyone that would come my way at that point and yeah she was like okay here’s my number like you know like let’s get in touch and actually I had it like I don’t know probably three or four or vocalist like that I had met in that same kind of like months and I would reach out to them and I’ll just hear nothing back or it’s like oh yeah let’s get the California yes like the time is now baby after the festival Alex actually got in touch with me and you know it was like hey it’s like I really want to sing you know with you and yeah so she lives pretty far away from me but she came out and we recorded a bunch of vocal stuff on three or four songs that I was doing of the time and I just one song basically I had kind of like some basic elements of it was very raw skeletal Types on and that’s the song called deep inside and yeah it is just when I heard her singing on there it was like wow this is the song right here this is what’s been missing she’s just got the most amazing voice and she has so much soul I’m hearing you speak I feel like the if I had to explain to somebody who never heard the word Tantra before and your people ask me if clients and whatnot where should I begin and what should I read and certainly there is I really enjoy Urban Tantra by Barbara carrellas and also the jewel in the Lotus and also the complete idiot’s guide to tantric sex if I never had I’m waiting for this I’m waiting I’ve been waiting for something like this to me again I Just Praise her your style and approach and I really think the what it brings together is it just these two words kind of came to me these two terms just like the Smith self-help genre and the self-help movement is something that is sort of its kind of made fun of or it’s not it’s not really taking totally seriously or it’s kind of like oh yeah you’re there’s something wrong with you and if you were normal you would you would not need to go that route so it’s kind of like a weird something where you might you might lose respect for yourself even by questioning that are thinking what am I going to having a midlife crisis I don’t need that you know what is going on but then with Tantra it’s so you’re such a almost like a martial arts kind of level of self-mastery and self-discipline I really is the sort of Jedi training and I think you bring that you sent the size of those two for me those two opportunities where it’s like yeah you you’re actually using courage and bravery and becoming a warrior but then you’re doing all this really touchy feely deep emotional work and that should that should take care of people’s hesitation to go either on a warrior path or on a more self-help spiritual path that gives you your compelling people to take both and for when men I think they they seek that out maybe they seek the warrior path more than the spiritual path but there’s I think there’s a lot of marketing and hype around that for men but this is really good tip for a loved one country women’s use the word Fierce and they invoke that that energy and they Empower femininity with with that those archetypes so could you talk maybe a bit about what that means to you the that just reconciling masculine or feminine Shiva Shakti really kind of bringing these tools of of strength and resolve and discipline to two women who may be of this been crushed by patriarchy you know for Generations oh yeah that’s a big question right there yeah and that’s I mean being crushed by Peter I came that’s definitely why I wrote the book and I actually why you were talking I just wanted to mention that I have a section on their on you know telling women to how to stop denying that masculine energy or also men love because I find that you know because you know a lot of the women I work with the idiot had just bad experiences with men or with times that they’ve stepped into their masculine energy and so they’ve just been very hurt by it and then they sort of backed away from it and you know I try to work with them on you know it’s about housing balance of Both Worlds and really understanding what the masculine is and also the ways in which masculine and men have been disempowered you know and really starting to take ownership of that you notice a lot of times women are like you know when I start bringing in the masculine they’re like okay I know I bet that’s like to heavy like that kind of energy that they don’t want to work with that energy and they don’t want to explore that energy and so I say okay you know there’s there’s no pressure and there’s no rush cuz you got to do what feels right to you and a lot of time they seem. Just by like stepping in to do that feminine energy because it is fierce right it is courageous it is powerful like you said there is not Warrior quality to it I’m still by simply die do something like this to summon and energy you actually calling up you know those masculine aspect you’re calling up that strength that where your strength at the same time without really realizing it so unconsciously and and you’re bringing those forces them to bounce and I’ve seen that a lot of times with women that I’ve worked but I’m really like surprised at how the feminine wild like this actually you know it’s soft there is softness in the feminine but as you claim it and as you’re able to fearlessly stick with that and embrace set and embodying it naturally you know.. Here’s mess. Power starts to rise time to help stabilize their energy and so it’s pretty much really a magical thing it’s pretty amazing and so I have this part in my book about you know how to really heal yourself from what you thought maybe you know how house Gary masculine energy might be some time I’m sure there are practices that really going to that and yeah and then that’s really a big part of my work to because a man I mean we are in need of some major balance here on this planet and in this life in this world so I really feel the more that we can Embrace anybody and I’m leaning into the feminine that is rising right now in the more we can scan with that the more that we can make space for on the masculine to heal and balance and a bike ride but like Reno really hot like it in excess right but Valance in such a way that it kind of comes down to meet the famine in so that this beautiful kind of dance can emerge Amor Harmony and that would just make such a huge total impact and we just within the body the container of one individual body being able to fuse and merge those energies so powerful yeah I’m really is why I do what I do awesome yeah I can say from experience from the first couple of experiences and session work that I experienced with you then I really got I was able to feel the force so you know that if we’re going to be using that Jenna archetype you know in in there if you want to call Kundalini Shakti goddess energy which is I love calling I love I love hearing of Kundalini as a salmon in force and you were the one who activated that for me and it was just very unusual yeah I remember like it was yesterday and so I appreciate it in you you can get really philosophical and really theoretical but grounding everything into practices to make it as a workbook almost it sounds like this is amazing so you and it’s something that has to be felt in the body to really know what it is yeah it’s hard it’s hard to find words nothing will thank you for all that great work do you feel kind of complete as in that in this kind of brief introduction but but pretty I think it’s a pretty good overview I definitely thrilled to to go deeper with it and others will be as well so I wanted to give the bulk of this episode to this important news of promoting and getting the word out about the book and then but also address questions that I’ve had as a sort of I’ve become a sort of meta Godparent to a lot of different mothers who were rebranding as independent mothers who are in various stages of Court battles with baby daddies for custody and for child support and and I’ve just checking on this sort of I decided I’m not going to reproduce biologically all of my vasectomy but I will reproduce culturally by my being short playing that that more of a Shimano roll in peace and also keeping a little bit of distance from that that this is a an ancient sword of time tree thing of if you are not to be the guru per se but to be an Adept you may have to disengage from householding because there’s just so much mundane kind of learning and things you got to sit through so your country path is always going to be kind of a balancing act between how much of a household are you going to be and what roles are going to have within a community and then how far out you get to go on your own into your mystical practices so I have taken that past of offsetting my my familial obligations a bit so that I could study things from afar and then just go to be this force of will hopefully an Angelic sort of force supporting women who are in different degrees of Crisis that’s just a little bit of a of a context for why it’s important for me now to reconnect with you in a n n learn from you and share your teachings about Tantra parenting the pattern that has been emerging in the question is being asked of me and the view is is how does a woman who has just recently given birth and going through all these different chemical changes and hormonal changes how do you what’s the advice on keeping that spark of love and attraction alive with the baby daddy partner what are some some tricks and tips that you would recommend for for that really critical bonding you know six segments of Life first of all I’m not going to lie. I think the first thing to do is I mean really too kind of except that it’s not going to be the same but. It’s actually you know like I said with you know what having kids how you’re able to look at the things that really matter to you that was so when you actually are with your partner and you have those moments you know they might be less but we are going to be amazing because you are fully present and you’re showing up each moment you know and the end of a lot of for me it’s like when I first became a mom so I had my first son and it was really hard I was just like what cuz I was Dino stole so focused on your child and really wanted to be there to nurture that I and you are you know you’re you’re so deep into it into motherhood and it’s so new everything is so new and exciting and exhausting but I am in a few months I was just like oh my gosh like how how does this work how do we make this work and it was really really difficult very difficult but I found that by you know because I’ve had my kids almost 8 years now until I found that really what we eat sometimes you know if if we need to say like make an appointment with each other and that’s what we have to do if we have to put it on the calendar they okay these are the the two or the three days a week that were scheduling for ourselves for intimacy for connection then that’s we’re going to do that first there was a struggle because my husband’s like okay this isn’t sexy yo after he got over that initial thing it was like okay like we can do this we can make time for this we can we can be intentional about it for us really had to do that because not only was it you know hard navigating with kids now but also the work you know work in the balance of that it was just really tough so that was one of the things that we did the other thing that I want to say is that sometimes you know you you have good intentions but I got at the end of the day you’re exhausted and and then you just end up wanting to just sit there and whatever you want to do watch TV or you know just go to bed until I always like to say that really if you really want to keep that sparked going not to give up just because you feel like okay you know I don’t have that energy right now or I don’t have the time to put into this right now to really see and used Contra in a way that it’s really meant to be experienced right because Todd’s are really isn’t just all about sex right and having that fat set spark Tundra is it much deeper than that and so sometimes you have to tell yourself like okay even though we don’t have time to make love right now maybe maybe it’s just about lying down next to each other synchronizing out of breath making that I contact I’m falling asleep to that I’m letting that be enough you know before you know this night or this week or whatever it is like in the beginning it’s not to really put so much pressure on yourself but to use Simple practice is like you know that you have your own position and just sitting there together and being or maybe you know it’s one night you really need a massage right now you know I really just after having a long day or a long week and be with the kids so much that’s what I really need so communicating that to your partner and really staying in touch with that and not being embarrassed or not feeling like it’s too much or too much of a burden or whatever it is just really being clear about what you deeply need I’m in a lot of that comes down to really checking in you know with yourself all the time and seeing what’s there I really feel like things like that even though you know you might be cuz it’s also self-care right so you’re able to connect with your partner in that way and then you’re also able to have that time must be nurtured and a slowing down which is also key so I think everyone is going to work differently and it’s going to be unique for all of us but it’s really about finding those opportunities to stay consistent to really stay connected in those small tangible ways and mlc really accepting that it’s okay that you know your relationship has changed the amount of time might be able to have to devote to one another Soul has changed I’m not true but you can actually take all that and evolve it into something in a lot of cases that really goes much deeper than that you know because now it’s it’s amazing you know you have this this connection and you know going through motherhood and Emma strikes that that gives you time to actually be able to take that foundation and that strength and that those nurturing abilities and that expression being able to use that with your partner in your relationship I’m having that Foundation really can make me very powerful in a way that’s unexpected just as amazing as you always bring it back to the fundamentals of the practices this is not all hot air to talk about it tell about doing it doing the work and I just feel like it makes me think that I can think of I mean I know some couples will have the foresight to at least make prenuptial agreement but I can’t think of anyone who they actually said we are going to go through the most insane trans transformation of everything we know we can if its first time parents who have no clue what to expect and they and what if they were to get these to be the eye of a storm throughout anyting that’s the Abbey unless Ty gazing the synchronized breathing you can’t touch that space with anything so but but pure Bliss and whatever does need to get work through if it’s done in that space it’s going to be conscious it’s going to be a constructive and it’s going to be a firming so I feel like it’s the what I’m hearing you say and what diarrhea firm is two people listening if you were expecting and you want to keep this container of love together and ever strengthening then start doing his practices now and know that you’re going to really rely on them it’s going to be life-and-death okay we’re just going there so I can breed all right like can’t we just do that let’s just do that next week or let’s just all of that I mean once you start doing it and engaging and you feel that present in your body and the Net Connection you have to just trust that all of that and all of that adds up and all of that makes a difference in your relationship every moment of that that time that you have on to be able to connect in that way as powerful well thank you again for bringing it back to to those core practices again you could have a lot of compliments sure there’s a million complicated bits of advice that people could give for this but this is so practical and and I just I dare people could really do it in and I don’t think you can fail you know I don’t think it’s possible to fail if you have good intentions and you do the scratches so yeah so we were getting also to your kind of making a perfect segue to the next question which is more more about the the asymmetry of responsibility and Duty specially for breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be carried to full-term and whatnot it’s it’s like there’s such a the mail investment just as how I always make this joke there probably less violence in the world is men had to breastfeed but women actually held the babies in their room still so imagine that you wouldn’t be off to go into war and using weapons and guns and swords that she had breastfeeding on demand for whatever after 5 years income that would be great that leaves man with such an unfair and balance of freedom and privilege to not be bound to the those tasks so a lot of women are rightfully lamenting this sensitive of the men who are supposed to be there showing up to with the with the mother is hoping for is that yeah he’s going to go to work and put food on the table and make it so I don’t have to work hopefully or I can work you know in a way that I can still be involved in my children’s lives you know for God’s sake you know who something something not just not just the short maternity leave remind me that the CEO of YouTube is a yogini who is Hardcore advocate for way longer maternity leave or something yeah I didn’t know that I’ll send you a link to a video where it where you get to see that she’s actually really badass them she’s a fierce that ass woman who’s awake I have no idea how did you navigate and how do you recommend for women who maybe don’t have is as blessed of a of a beloved Fixer-Upper type type men how do you get them on board with really going the extra mile of of checking in about about the needs a mother you know mother would have if she is being assertive about her knees in about the new suicide where she would like how can you be humbled to her and just be asking and showing up to being serviced that’s a question that’s a really great question and I have to say that I’m really fortunate with Eric because he I mean he has just him and he is just been a tremendous support from the beginning but then at the same time it’s like I also have to do my part with him right of being very clear about I need you no because then it that this always with him you know in the beginning of special rub up against this when he just wouldn’t know you know and I would be just waiting silently expecting something but he wouldn’t really know that that was what exactly I was looking for right because for women it’s like having that ability to breastfeed and nurture and carry this baby. Room I mean just how we have those abilities so readily at hand and we know what we need sometimes it’s hard to say yeah I need this actually it sometimes it’s hard because where we can be so strong you know and we can put off the 15 so strong and like we have everything together and I know that I do that a lot of time where I’m just like yep I’m good I don’t need help I look what I’m doing all by myself I’m doing all these amazing but that really inside I’m like oh my gosh like what am I I can’t do all this by myself and just allowing your partner that opportunity like okay like this is really what I need and this is the support that I need and this is how I feel going through that and not being afraid to say I am overwhelmed right now you know and and can you please and saying this from a place of love right not from a place that judgment and like what are you doing for me and you know resenting that you know you have more freedom than me and Bubba blah and I’m here breastfeeding or whatever it is not doing it from that place but from you know from your center from a place of love like I’m I’m really overwhelmed I need help with this right now you know can you get up be up with a baby now for two hours because I only had 3 hours of sleep last night instead of just silently you know doing in that moment when you feel I mean I I just I know a lot of of moms and a lot of friends who dust will just be like okay well he didn’t you know my partner my spouse he didn’t step up and so I had to do it and then my will but did you say something and they’re like no or maybe they did say something but you know it wasn’t from that place you know of just clear intentional loving vulnerable until. I think that was one of the biggest things for me especially you know when our relationship I’m like okay and then you know my husband tries to tell me like he’s Eichler like he’s like really I want to be able to show up for you like I want to be strong for you I want you to feel good but he’s like I honestly don’t I just need to to hear it I just sometimes I need to be told or I need to be reminded because it doesn’t come as naturally to me and then show me be mindful of that and not you know not falling to being hurtful or resentful something makes me cute different do you know well that’s really really profound that that really gets to the hardest exactly what I’m seeing go wrong inside once at once that slippery slope really hard I mean it’s kids once this thing start to add up then breaking through that you’re really. It’s really snowballing and that’s your thing everything is this Noble thing I’ve seen it yet so that is great advice I think that work that I said the fly to something if x is kind of ridiculous that it reminds me of I remember seeing young young women and whatever middle school or high school and home home economics class and they will be given an assignment to have a baby doll with them for whatever and in that relationship it’s like okay honey we’re going to do what it’s going to feel like for me to be busy and need help from you and you put in your garden that would be funny if it decided to give people that sensitivity at sensitivity training cuz once it’s already ratchet up and then more expenses than what I’m seeing to notice let me know way more than I do but it’s like I don’t think I think people underestimate the cost of of multiple visits to the pediatrician a week you know it’s like figuring out food allergies and decoding the sugar all of the ways that sugar is is is surreptitiously inserted into packaged food and just it’s such a pill battle to be holistic and to be in at all so it’s just this this is all in on top of just I mean most people are just buying everything off the shelf from entertainment to toys to food to diapers and whatever it is it’s all just off the shelf but to have that effect of wanting to do better than the last Generations or to resist the marketing and be more green or whatever that’s a whole another layer of the building so you know it’s just to get more and more complicated and at the end of the day I see the women just getting ran ragged and the dudes just kind of blowing him off sadly to say but if we could he had say that actually kind of Segways a bit to another question which is and this I mean you could you could write a whole book just on this subject alone out so I don’t expect you to to go too far into it but maybe just some off the top of your head pointers and we can move along quick to know we’re getting close on time so so any suggestions for creative and educational and non-toxic toys just a few maybe went to one website or one store just don’t know anything I don’t know if I’d be the best person to ask about that because I not that they have a choice in general just because you know like all the plastic and everything I mean and we like literally their toys are like one corner of our house like a couple of containers and that’s it and they barely even play them to be honest with you I feel like the simpler the better you know I feel like I’m all about like art you know art projects you know the pain and the crayons and all the art supplies and things like that so that they can enhance their minds and use their hands that way and explore that way they’re into that but I found that you know the purchases that I made with toys throughout the years it’s like that use it and then they’re done and that’s like a big hunk of plastic sitting there are biodegradable and Wooden Spoons and then they’d be busy for 2 or 3 hours you know that they have gotten that I get them they’re like okay and then they open it and then they look at it for 10 minutes and then I end up you know it’s just a way so yes so we do more we like to do more stuff you know in nature I mean they like to play you know what they say they love gospel they love being outdoors they love Ari and they love puzzles and things like that so that’s why I hope that I hope and pray that we will all have abundant opportunities to being healthy natural environments and have plenty of more outdoor time the better cuz there’s some nature is like endless you know just being outside they’re like so fascinated by every little thing the backyard I don’t know it exactly how I like how did the people survived all of those many years ago without these big pieces of plastic and well that is exactly what I thought I hope to hear in and a very firm it if so this is another test of the last one here is probably the the most kind of universal so I don’t know if there is an answer to this question however I died would like to spend I would like to spend my golden years doing a lot more anthropological research on on foraging sigala Terry and societies before you spell hunter-gatherer societies who have basically none of the the neurotic issues that people in the modern world have and and I love to know I would like to believe that there is that there was a golden age of human Innocents where the terrible twos didn’t exist and then that we could decode that and figure out what is it more nurturing Less Talk toxins I mean is it just that there’s so much overstimulation and so many maybe you’re actually able to perceive carcinogens at that age and then you stopped being able to and that’s why I mean it could be anything less or I could just sent them know something very out of balance that’s just modern so I’m just wondering if you have if you were really idealistic about know I’m going to teach there going to be a master Yogi’s by the age of one so that the terrible twos happen though I already beat exam enough I don’t know why you if you were like I don’t know like tell me what that’s been like for you and then if you have advice for people who are in that approaching that Horizon will for me I really I really just try to go with the flow you know just so I’ll talk to style just like accepting every part of it I was just part of the the beautiful messy process of development and growth and exploration and sometimes I do know because otherwise then it’s just become so hard you know what I’m saying because you expect it is you’re going to have meltdowns right it’s not it’s not going to be easy is there at like going to be some very tough days especially in the beginning if it’s going to be hard you feel like what what am I what did I get myself into one of my hairdo evaporate the next moment you know you’re going to feel the most joy and Bliss and happiness that you ever felt like wow that’s amazing that I get to be a part of this process you know that I get to witness this human being growing and developing and it’s it’s just amazing so it’s really you know you know the whole ton truck idea of a flowing through those energy that accepting every moment no matter how chaotic and allowing those emotions and those feelings and those moments to move to you during this challenging time to witness in you know children and young children because it’s like they can like be so happy in one moment and literally within five seconds that can beat me on the floor it’s crazy right it’s like oh my gosh the wide array of emotions from moment to moment and not inhibit that till I I feel like you know it’s like wow for me initially seen that in the beginning and fidget with night was my first one and that you can just move so fluidly like this and just just like that and get so consumed by something else in another moment we just amazing to me so I think we can really take a lot of sign a lot of lessons and just being present at something to a Full Circle closed right now because what I am even before you started to reply that lesson for grown-ups really about about cycling through your full expression and not choking your body is response to a situation out and the full the full body response to a situation I was actually remember me on my phone while I remember a room full of adults it you and Eric’s condo and we were being instructed to behave like children having a tantrum so that we can feel good and actually know the nice that storm there’s like the sun and the blue sky and in the EXO baekhyun the funny faces and doing the monster dance and some just like well you’re probably realizing hits are the times of the exactly yeah it’s it’s pretty amazing to witness is there a word for like reverse parenting or something has got to be a word for the the the from children actually teaching adults what they’re forgetting and I didn’t mean well that’s really it’s a really heartwarming conversation and I feel like the people who are hearing this and who have experienced so much pain and distress that there is such a open source free to use to spend your own time studying it get this book read the book watch Roadies videos I certainly considered to be the highest resource that I like to share with folks because of the same reason they listen before adjusters I don’t feel like there is a knot a snake-oil aspect of what you’re selling and there’s not a sort of a shady ulterior motive saying a gender that I have to worry about and and I just can’t say that about that many people until I’m sure you know and I certainly feel for myself that you know I have I always want to be deferring is often as possible to sort of protect my Integrity to not be the what do they call it like the god cock Shaman is just a narcissistic people’s souls and that’s easy enough to it’s easier to take that route of that that black timeshare manipulate manipulate almost hard not to do it so I mean I’m making and I feel like we are making major effort cuz that’s the complete opposite of what you are and what you and body I mean from the very beginning so yeah no thank you I really feel like you are just I mean somebody who’s just really in there doing that you’re like doing the work you know and you like do it like with an open heart you’re just like in there and you’re talking to everybody and just creating this just really amazing platform. You should be really proud of well thank you again and again I have to say you helped start at all and one of my the first real social proof that I had was that was your gracious licensing of me to share some of the video work that we did together it’s been a blessing that go into detail but all that in that in that previous episode supposed to listen of that and I will say that we we were blessed and burden in this in this time of this episode to take to cover a good intro to the book and also to open this discussion about time to Parenting I definitely want to set the intention that in the future we will give more of a of a deep dive into your personal background and it sort of will let that be a cliffhanger to hear about your experiences early introduction of Tantra and just kind of the got your path of building that confidence and certainly the form give experience Syfy oh my God it all yeah we haven’t got into your filmography either still be there next time to say this for next time to talk about birth because yes I mean not as deep and my experience naturally delivering and doing it with Tantra as my Foundation is the only way that I said I survived it and actually enjoyed it. Arrington have the complete box set free thank you so much thank you so much for having me it was really great and most richest time in in a moment to to share this Basin and certainly yeah it’s it’s a got it just give you a big big bow down because this you were the one who helped me start this this whole journey I don’t know I don’t know who I’d be or where I’d be doing it if we didn’t have a Meeting of Minds you know so yeah I can’t believe I forgot to say this I mean you were seriously you were the first one who discovered my website you were the first one who reached out to me and one of the first that I’ve actually I will say the first that I taught that I didn’t know because I had started already like teaching but like you know friends and friends of friends but you were the first clean one like the first student I was like oh wow yeah that that walked in and like was the beginning of really that Journey so thank you I did not know that I did not realize that that that’s funny so funny I can’t believe I never told you that that’s very well so everybody just like get over your awkwardness and just represent just like bring your egg and no matter what things will come out you know it’ll all fall in place to get back to the Sam and yeah I give them my love and thank them for allowing you to to do the book and for all of the people who parted the sea so that you could get that book done and then provide provide that to us and so much more thank you I know it I just want to say thank you so much for Amy what you just what you spoke about earlier just blew me away how you been stepping up to support women and you know what your mother’s I mean you are really holding for me to space there and this is really something that you know I know that would indeed and you know a lot of them have been longing for so thank you so much for for being that person and for filling that role cuz it’s just amazing the work that you’ve been doing all these years I thank you you planning to see each other that they were they say that it’s the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree at least in the sense of the guru to train me to be a womanizing pick up artist in the name of conscience so I guess that’s why we you know gravitated toward each other There Was You know. The little like energy so I think I don’t think you would have found that path that was not your will thank you so much again yeah so much so much good vibes and good times and we will be in touch soon and and best of luck with all of your your your book emotional adventurous okay great thank you so much fun. Country Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple provide ketologic employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Township Park. Com Thomas gay

Futurizing Spirituality Education and Goddess Worship with Visionary Artist Satva TPP202

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In this episode I’m joined by one of my all time favorite visionary artists Satva. We met briefly at the Los Angeles conscious life expo about 10 years ago. I was mesmerized by his unique approach to depicting divine feminine beauty and themes of futurism, sci fi, anime, and much more. It was an honor to have him on the podcast to tell the story of his personal spiritual and artistic evolution.

My favorite of his works is a collection of “Chakra Devis” which are stunningly beautiful representations of the personalities of the chakras, anthropomorphized as human yoginis. He takes us on a guided tour of the symbolism and intentions for each of the 7 major chakra devi pieces. I was extremely grateful to have an opportunity to share my appreciation for his works, it was like a podcast version of chatting with the artist at an art show opening.

We also discuss his yoga gear line Echelon Active and several other creative projects under development. He’s definitely on a path to transform and transmit ancient sacred healing and empowering wisdom to the modern world through an array of multi-media offerings.

Please visit him online at:

http://www.3satva.com/chakra-devi.html

https://www.instagram.com/echelonactive/

https://www.instagram.com/3satva/

https://echelonactive.com

About Satva:

Michael Satva is a visionary artist with a unique futuristic new age spiritual aesthetic. With an eclectic upbringing being influenced by world religions, hip hop, graffiti, and the melting pot culture of California, Michael has synthesized a unique spiritual identity that incorporates elements from the ancient past and the future to create new archetypes of gods and goddesses for the modern and future world. He has worked on a plethora of projects from comic books and video games, to brand development and fashion design. Throughout all of his work he has a mission to portray women as powerful and divine by invoking goddess worship in a new 21st century form.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 202 I am being joined by saatva who is a Visionary artist that I encountered now several years ago back up around 2010 I believe that the conscious life Expo and West LA and he had a booth there where there was just the most Exquisite activating beautiful depictions of yoginis in these representations of the chakras and I had never seen shelter more compelling set of artworks really I would say in my life and I since I was in a pubescent and developing and developing my my arrow so you know I really was attracted to the the Visionary art and a Sci-Fi art of the the heavy metal comics and the the even the Akira comics and definitely would like steeped as a as a adolescent in this futuristic sci-fi and an anyting erotic I obviously devoured and so I really was a big fan of Louis Royal as well as like I bought those art books at his in Geiger and what not and what would I think a lot of that stuff lacked for me was this activating sacred geometry spiritually intelligent Dimension mixed with the Sci-Fi mixed with the futurism and in with the arrow sin so when I saw at the conscious life Expo and I saw that the only things coming together it was just like so such a turn-on at to my eyes and my heart so I bought a shirt and I wore it around for many years and I love it and I want everybody to see this sort of Flagship part that said we’re going to talk about today that the Shocker Davies but we also talked about his other multimedia formats but really I feel like this is one of those very few and a lifetime epiphanies of really connecting with the work of an artist so it’s a huge honor supposed to have you on the podcast at this stuff with in and help us appreciate your work and I I just feel like it’s time and it’s right for me in a lot of ways to talk with you about collaborations in commissions and Licensing and what not I think this is just really healing and beautiful work so with all that said tell us all about your journey as an artist and how did you develop the skills in end of the wisdom that you embed into the works thank you a lot and I appreciate that you are you are touched by it and I’m just trying to manifest what I’m what I’m seeing from a from essentially from an alternate future that one that we’re not really seeing in this world one that the one we see is very devoid of culture and and I see a future that’s full of a plethora of cultures and the Melting Pot of of everything so for me that’s an odd future Optimist at heart and I want to see the world become a better place so a lot of my heart has to do with empowering women in a way that Society for so long has emailed them down and a lot of it comes in as a as a goddess worship and growing up I was raised by hippie parents who were in The New Age movement my mom was a yoga teacher growing up my dad was involved with a Buddhist Monastery and old Burmese Buddhist Community I grew up with a very open-minded a household that I was experienced I was some influence by cultures from around the world from Judaism to Christianity to the ancient Egyptian religion to Hinduism to Buddhism all of that was very present in my childhood so I was able to kind of piece things together and create my own spiritual beliefs out of that and and so what one thing that has come through a lot for me is just how a lot of these religions have avoided the worship of the goddess and just even within Judaism how it started out with the Ashera who is the goddess consort to Yahweh and even within Hinduism this emphasis on Krishna run on Ganesh instead of the different goddesses that were incredibly powerful and so what what I found is of all the religions that Hinduism really seems the most intact from the ancient goddess times and so I definitely gained the most inspiration from Hinduism and I feel like it’s really relevant to today because we live in a world where women are getting more power gaining more voice and so there is there’s a necessity to find the spiritual embodiment of of the female in a way that’s that’s like absurd to me that it hasn’t exist existed because in a women create life that’s just how it works and yet here we are seeing this this God created the universe and it’s just like a text but here on the earth you know women create life everyday so how come we’re denying the Goddess that that roll of of the Divine Creator and be in holding that sacred and so that’s that’s essentially part of my spiritual belief is and I I try to manifest that with my heart and make it current in a way that you know a lot of the gods and goddesses are depicted in their own cultural context from you know thousands of years ago but I I look into the the spiritual world for what a current Avatar of that would be in a sentence how how these energies and Spirits manifest in the modern world because we we live in the in a world where were most religions are intact and and unchanging from thousands of years and yet the energies have shifted so drastically that it’s I feel like it’s time for some new archetypes new spiritual archetypes to be formed to help us move forward into a futuristic world and we’re not tied to old paradigms and old beliefs but we are able to manifest new realities based on the intersection of Science and spirit in you know even using the chakras as an example of finding the the scientific and energetic qualities of the chakras and then using those in our meditation it it it it brings it out so it’s not just some crazy religion it becomes a scientific practice of spirit of Consciousness and no other influences for me I was very influenced by hip-hop and graffiti in anime and robots and Max and just imagining the future that we’re about to enter and so it’s it’s finding that balance of these really ancient religions from ancient Egypt and Hinduism to you know robotic Max and colonizing Mars and just understanding those two extremes and finding finding a balance of that and that’s that’s really at the heart of most of my work beautiful it’s such a joy to hear all this because I’ve been stealing it and inviting with it in into no really that you have these BF antiquing in really true and deep hearted kind of influences and experiences and just it’s great to hear that that you have such an articulate View and vision and with bringing us together and I’m curious do you were you a big cyberpunk kind of sci-fi fan also of the film genres that depicted this futuristic stuff because I’m seeing this is very Blade Runner ich Tu me to definitely I love Blade Runner my favorite book of all time and snow crab and yeah I love cyberpunk I’m just I found in the last I used to think of myself as a cyberpunk artist until I really came to the conclusion that a lot of cyberpunk is very is like women hating and there’s this really dark kind of chauvinistic side to it that I really am against and so that it it really brings up a really interesting thing that it’s kind of like sifting through Instagram sifting through hashtags right you have certain hashtags which have the same content and only men are looking at it and then you have other Hashtags with their equivalent futuristic contact that women are looking at and so I’ve been trying to find that that balance wear allot how how we can bridge that divide and allow for an A+ female-centered cyberpunk to emerge that women want to embrace because it’s safe to say for example recently in Netflix there was a new series about robots and something robots and sex and love or something and it was awful it was so dark and my friends was like oh it’s cyberpunk you’re going to love it and I I hated it because it just was not it wasn’t an empowering experience I got I want to see you know women in the future that have superpowers that can just Blast away any anything that comes their way and you know it depicted a much more Twisted kind of reality and so for me that’s that’s my Prime objective is the empowerment of women to to be as beautiful or as strong or as you know as badass as they possibly can and I I I I seen more and more that that they need to hear that because Society often doesn’t doesn’t show that and and so yeah anyway that’s that’s that’s why I’m happy we’re so on the same page with that and I have my own reasons why in my life story and evolution I guess I call myself sometimes a gender traitor not that I’m in transition per se but that I just stopped being interested in ball games and barbecues and not to really insult modern masculinity but it’s just I realize that I had more I got more enjoyment and more fulfillment out of spending time in groups of women and being kind of a tomgirl maybe a kiss if there’s if it’s like exploring the mysteries of the feminine and really really sipping the nectar of the goddess and wanting to serve instead of fronting with all my homies about how we treat our women like shit and how we’re all homophobia can it’s just this much he’s Mo it’s just really exhausting in a real a real turn off to me and so I was able to I was just started to see the energy of the of the Shakti and I’m wondering in your story is there was there any kind of like breaking point or kind of fork in your road where you started to grab a tape and seek more of that the shock the energy or what was the Catalyst did you have like amazing sexual Kundalini experience and you became a devel goddess worship or just where the goddess worship enter your the your certified the Zeitgeist of your mind I mean San Francisco is a very bizarre place in growing up there in the 80s and 90s it was a very strange mix of things that that made it very confusing to grow up there and that was because the the mix of the feminist movement with the the game movement had this really strange effect where they made all the straight men into like villains and it vilified finding women attractive in the strange way where it where if I found the guy attractive that would be okay but if I found a woman attractive I was in a sentence you know turning her into an object and it and it was this this bizarre place where we’re by the time I was twelve I had guilt for finding women attractive and I was the only one who had several friends who have similar experience without so is a very bizarre kind of the opposite World should should I say but it took me a long time to realize that some women love being beautiful and that there’s nothing wrong with beauty itself like that and and different types of beauty are found Beautiful by different men and women and so that that like that denial of the beauty of the feminine was kind of driver for me to be like no I find this beautiful and I don’t think that this is wrong I’m not I’m not like objectifying I’m I’m you know admiring and idolizing a certain Beauty comes from the Divine source that that women just magically have this power to have this beauty and it’s not just Skin Deep there’s a beauty there’s a Grace and you know different women have different types of Beauty in and so it just really forced me to to really look deeply at that and at my own my own you know contractions vs. what women in the women around me what they wanted and and so it it’s interesting cuz you you have this other side of feminism that says okay women have to go to work and women have to be just like men and then you have someone like Hillary Clinton who dresses like a man and yet she’s the embodiment of the feminist movement come president and yet along the way everything feminine is lost and and that there’s this idea that everything feminine is there for negative that must be removed in order for a woman to be equal that that really I can’t you know it makes no sense to me I mean it just even the fact that women now where you know at least in the 90s women all wore pants and it was like okay where were you know we’re trying to be more like men and that that was that was like the standard normal process and yet now I see with fashion with the way the world’s going women are allowed to embrace the feminine demore it’s become more acceptable with yoga and just how you know how fashion has emerged women are like yes I’m beautiful and I’m able to manifest is and and it’s not about men looking at me it’s about it’s about how I feel right so you know the name that goes to the whole the whole dichotomy of the Muslim burka vs. you know women who don’t want to wear anything in this that whole that whole realm is like is it the man’s job to like tell a woman what she can wear what or is it a woman’s job to decide how she wants to express herself and I saw an end and I see that women have every possible View and so there’s no reason that that any man should decide what what they want for themselves so it’s it’s all tied 2-2 you know all of these issues that are still really you know present today and and so that’s that’s really well that’s that’s my story how I came into it that’s awesome and it’s just so timely to because literally right before we haven’t started the conversation I just flashed onto Instagram and saw that there is like a flash mob sort of a thing of women laying down nude at the intersection in front of the Facebook Instagram headquarters I believe in New York City and they were holding up giant art pieces or photographs of nipples in a basically it’s a weave in nipple hashtag what they’re protesting and so this is Xavier literally we are at this moment of the intersection of what you’re saying and and I’ve had a funny thought for a few years now about how yet but if a man you know is if is threatened by the nipple and afraid of it he can just wear like we can save a lot of fabric by just using one strip of a blindfold and then head that all of that sitter putting all of that cloth on women just put a tiny strip on your eyes and then you know walk around with the assistance of some kind and then you will you know you won’t be your poison by their erotic you know powers whatever you think is going on but it’s powerful it’s a powerful incredible I if you using Instagram again all the most popular accounts on Instagram are women and it just shows that in this new new era you know after hundreds of years of Oppression or stop thousands of years that women really are on the verge of running running running the show in a different way and that men men’s role is we are the support for them to be able to to grow and manifests that they need us and we need them and I’m not saying that men are inferior it’s it’s it’s more in line with how the ancient cultures were had this more symbiotic relationship where women have their place and they had they had power in it and and so yeah so I mean if you go back in time it it’s it’s really a trip when you start researching like ancient Egyptian and a lot of the even during Rome a lot of the religious centers of goddess worship the women inside wood would sleep with with the people come in they were essentially prostitutes but they were revered prostitute so it was like this strange it said it was a different way of thinking of it and then as patriarch eat so cold it started demonizing these these temples and you know the cult of Isis was so widespread across all the room that the only way to defeat it was when they they turned it into mother Mary so that they could you know turn turn into a Jesus thing but but yeah in the ancient world women women had incredible power even when you look at ancient Egypt a lot the the only way of pharaoh had power is if the mother was vine where is the mother was an Isis you were you were not you were nobody if your mother was a nice and so essentially it was if you are Pharaoh you had to have a royal Queen Mother and that was just a very different way to look at things then we have today and when that when the the Greeks came in and they wrote the history they wrote all the women outside of the Egyptian history so we don’t we don’t have a record of of the actual history we have it filtered through Roman and Greek guys that were incredibly patriarchal so yeah I feel like here we are again at at a Crossroads and it’s super important that women and I don’t think all women realize that yet I think women across the world still have a long way to go but we’re at that crossroads where men you know men are the protectors and are the support women can blossom and be whoever they want to be and I think that’s super important for the world to even and all this violence and all the wars in the world you know as soon as there’s a female cat Collective running the planet then you know you think they’re going to want War 2 happen like course not I totally totally this is all the philosophy and ideology that I am totally aligned with and exactly you have make Make Love Not War and facilitate the the women to be intimate in a more of a primal for me looking at bonobos even in just looking at how functional non Dominator matriarchal or maitre folk cultures village-based societies are all of our ancestors worshipping the Leone worshipping the fertility of nature in the Saturn aspect it’s it’s really how we evolved and really we’re going to we’re wasting a lot of energy trying to fight that again ourselves and our nation state boundaries and borders and all of these and actually I have to compliment what you’re saying in this isn’t cynical at all it’s actually in total reverence and all of it but really when I think about when I was experiencing on Instagram what you’re talking about and I see like I million follower accounts and how Howell magnetizing and how addictive these images are for everybody and it really just reminds me that no matter what you try to layer on top of it or how you try to obscure if we are all seeking the goddess and we’re all just gorging ourselves on the imagery of the feminine and and all of its expressions and it’s so obvious there and it made me think of this this excerpt of me and Michael case we’re not rely realized we’re not living in any dictatorship we’re living in a butt ocracy would love to now that having kind of pushed out that the real the backstory for you and the meaning of this art I really would love to do a sort of kind of commentary behind-the-scenes expiration if you could give us a a curated kind of tour walkthrough of the it’s 3 sot for.com chakra Dash Davie. HDMI that’s what I’m looking at right now and starting from the bottom if we can if you can give us a little guy to Journey so anybody who is listening to this now if you want to queue up your browser or your phone to that page we’re going to take a journey of exploring the symbolism and the intelligence that you put into these beautiful works the ones that had captured my soul and his and it just kept me really seeking these expressions and I will tell you what these are magical sigils cuz as I look at these now and I’m like wow I’ve been able to manifest experiences with these prophetesses in my real life so this is something to study and and really poor energy into these works of art and and they will nourish your soul and they will get the hell rounds it is about diffusing that pleasurable experience across so many different Souls that it’s impossible to attributed to one person and really I believe that this is not an astoundingly long wide penis that I have that I think is perfectly shaped to do what it was designed to do and I’m happy with it whatever yeah I’ve gotten good reviews so far in life women with wanted to kill other women because they were so possessive of this thing that is to say all it wants to do is just be warm and wet and one of them that is so I have a beloved partner and you know I would kiss your boobs goodbye and tell him to be good every day knowing if she was like why I never did anything bad to anybody ever and I realized that was the pure essence of innocence is Brett’s cuz like you can never say that they ever do anything bad to never manipulated anybody they never play games with anybody they just give and give and give you know so anyway that’s another story if we could only all aspire to be as innocent as a breast but never do anything to hurt anybody ever never had to be told to be nice just what is nice you know x-ray sexual Zen state that people would have to meditate for years if they didn’t eat mushrooms to figure that out like become a breast and live in the consciousness of breast in this and just experienced pleasure and give pleasure and don’t fucking overthink it you know it as long as everybody is of legal age and sound mind and knows what they’re signing up for essentially we can work out the details but I’ve been in those moments where it’s like yes what’s making this woman lose her mind and ecstasy is 80% the emotional connection with other women that she is sharing and then I am there to be basically a prop to the beautiful. Theater of feminine understanding and that is when I understood For the First Time The futility of women trying to squeeze blood from a stone to make bullheaded dumb men who would rather be playing video games or breaking shit or glowing sit up or doing something fucking mindless and heartless for fun and just acting them and making them be a woman when they’re not a woman because they can’t explore sexual intimacy with other women because you’re afraid of the taboo of lesbianism and because it would be against the rules and whatnot so when melted down and was in a sensor Moniz were psychedelic ceremonies wear them all of these stories were melted away and it was just women in fucking ecstasy the agony and ecstasy and using my cock is a prop but also as an energetic current and a source of love and that my refinement was allow me to be in that space and I realize that it’s like it is so cumbersome to be responsible for a woman’s orgasm in a love making session why would I want all of that burden on myself it’s like I have to at my age I have to think about not coming too fast beat not losing my erection and in trying to make a sincere emotional sincere present connection with the person who I am kissing is with that is enough for me to have to do it now I’m responsible for her squirting and I like coming in the same say when I saw the leveraging of all these other women and how freely flowing the orgasms come when the openness in the connectedness is there with other women so so like I said I’m not taking a step back and now if anybody wants to come at me they’re going to have to go through that that ate a form of of grade school of learning in or black ass like that you’re going to come at me do you want to fuck me you need a black belt in loving me to get in and if you go into any Karate Dojo they’re not even said hey I want to do what you do can you hand me your black belt right now please here I’ll give you a beer can I buy you a beer and then you give me a black belt no stupid you’re so stupid Bibb so what was the quote from the movie UHF which is very a so you definitely watch UHF to understand where my sense of humor comes from but yes I’ll good good so so we’re solving this problem and creating these designer experiences and so what I realized is that the impulse for a woman to have this one-dimensional relationship with a man’s cock so that she wants to possess it so as you’re a very own the way for me to logically very very simple-minded lycee what is the how do you prevent that is to say well you will learn to get to know my cock at exactly the same time as another person and you will only have a 50/50 relationship with whatever you do you say like you would with your best friend and I had her saying in people may not like to hear me say is cuz it sounds good feed it to your best friend first feed it to your best friend first and I didn’t even think about the secondary effect of that which for me that was just that was just like I’m going to know that you’re not going to lose your mind with jealousy when you can just say here actually you can I’ll let you go first so that would be the the the tantric taboo test of transgression against yourself like that Siri you’re going to lose your mind will feel into that and start simple we’re going to dance together and you’re going to watch just that and is that make your blood boil what happens after your blood simmers down do you start to like so now it’s like whatever that point is where that demon comes out of jealousy you were going to rub the shit out of your clit until it goes and tell you what you’ve you become a demon Whisperer with your clit and me and everybody just wants to create more and add more locks to the fire and you transmute that negative emotion into a positive motion and then in the probably will be called conversion the opposite we don’t have a word for it we do not have a word except for that one which no one knows it set designer neologism but we don’t have the band singing about how good it feels to watch their wife get fucked by Adam Ant And so yeah here we come back full circle so we will be so we’re going to we’re going to have these experiences we’re going to sing about it and and so this is the this is the what the the the climax of this conversation will be in my opinion is is when I talked about how the it’s not just a theoretical Gaiden guiding principle to say oh yeah we’ll will like yeah okay you flip a coin and I have sex first with the person who wins that round and then I stopped having sex with you and hopefully it didn’t lose my wind in 5 minutes cuz I was so fucking turn on by the sexy after they all I got another $5 and it’s over for me for like they’re already like forgot every system anyway cuz they’re tearing each other inside out and everything and I’m just watching and trying to like make it come to live again and finally it will eventually but you should know I’m getting That’s The Hampsterdance the Tantra hence the sexual Jedi Knight training so that you can breathe breathe through and in have the orgasms without losing the love don’t be a 5 lb jump so hit the two feminists so I think I’m going to say okay if she’s dying to give me a blowjob then like we time it for like okay like we’re going to play your favorite song and it’s going to be about the same equal thanks to to her favorite song and you going to eat each other’s favorite songs and I’m like hold each other’s heads and massage each other and just be like holding each other from behind and Miss Priss massaging each other that they take turns but there’s still a potential in that for for jealousy to arise in forever and for it to be I mean I just thought of a way to actually literally short-circuit everything in a really beautiful elegant circuit and so here is the design and I will try to verbally explain unless they can so I love the idea of two women’s hands clasping together around my cock and massaging it gently up and down as they face each other and our eye gazing intermittently so the visual so far is is that the dear beloved goddesses or I are facing each other so actually agency kneeling I’m I am laying on my back and they both are kneeling with their literally as clothes into my armpit is possible so that I can reach Below in between their legs and butt so I can have a hand on each clit and vulva fingers is a good middle finger on the clit and to end so if I’m cuffing the vulva and able to use my longest middle finger to be stroking the each clit simultaneously in patterns you know singer sew and I’m basically playing streams is like playing guitar and make a solo I’m playing shift I have this is because the end of vocalizations or what I’m tuning for it you know so so it isn’t this beautiful instrument of a playing these two young hearts that are kissing each other and like I gazy and exactly is so I’m making sure that they’re not feeling left out in that apartment while I’m being stimulated and everybody is being stimulated sexually and everyone is feeling a part of a closed circuit that is meeting everyone’s needs and in and there’s no favoritism there’s no hierarchy the really so thin and if anything I am as the man in my back and that is what time trick Kali worshipping actual full fully pornographic and I hesitate to use that word was fully glorious erotic depictions of the circuitry of how this stuff works so if it’s if you’re not approve any 3 I mean if you’re not so sexually stunted then you would just understand that these icons are just road maps to the spiritual terrain of understanding the energetics of Shiva Shakti god goddess energy so we’re designing with that and we’re creating a maximum hydraulic energy flows in in in a way that is very egalitarian actually inhibits the growth of the ego and that sense of so-and-so I’ve experienced this in not that exact formation but that’s why I aspire to be a porn director so that I can I can work with people who are very comfortable taking Direction and are not going to lose their minds and so I actually had this conversation today they’re what makes me not a cult leader and what prevents me from ever becoming a cult leader is this one fundamental thing right but I have to study cold it is to know how not to be a quote later cuz otherwise I would just be cranking out so much Kool-Aid day Kool-Aid would have to invent a time to punch flavor you know I got to be sponsored by Kool-Aid the Kool-Aid man oh yeah it would have it I make my own Kool-Aid Man Township anyway after dark okay I wanted how they’ve not sued like I have all of the libelous memes and they feel bad for the Kool-Aid guy I didn’t fucking poisonous people man I don’t mean to be making fun of them and I really got to get serious about not making a joke out of the people who died in the massacre Crazy Eights it’s it’s it’s public domain now to make a joke to either the expression people say don’t drink the Kool-Aid it’s because people at Jonestown were by a charismatic cult leader who was it was an extremely right with it skips a generation maybe but that’s how memes get formed yes so I mean that’s how they sort of deprecated the roots and you say things that we don’t know how does the reason we’re numb it so they don’t drink the Kool-Aid means don’t consent to a groupthink. Virus that makes mass suicide be acceptable and so they poisoned the Kool-Aid punch and that’s how everyone can scented make give it to their kids and everyone is like this is fine and some people try to protest and they were silenced and some people try to run away and it was a nightmare and it was absolutely what I would I must not allow myself to become as a priest that uses sexual mind manipulation and coercive tactics to trade love and affection attention and orgasm for 4 unquestioning devotion into the point of suicide so that that’s the extreme case that that we that is a litmus test for if you were going down that slippery slope but I actually tend to want to study the mental illness of sociopath sociopathy narcissism and I would like to consider myself a benign I’m the benign narcissist I know that that is a character flaw that I am not how we going to like defeat by doing the past limitations as many times that night and I’m going to roll with it and I’m going to say yeah I will be like Howard Stern and I will be I’m going to if I’m going to be this personality I’m going to make a bonsai tree out of my own ego if I can and have other people help in the process but but things going going back to the to the cult thing and what me what gives me the authority to design this orgasmic Orchestra what why and how do you not just become a colder than soy everyone you meet is basically in that on that game board now how am I going to manipulate you to be in this in this position that I would like you to be in to fulfill my fantasy of engineering all this town truck stuff and and if I’m if I’m this is well that’s spit out the Kool-Aid don’t swallow I think what we’ll get to that for sure that’s going to be a we’re going to get to that but can’t forget that we’ll save that for the for the most triumphant moment the climax is when we’re going to use that it’s so precious now after it’s been built up so ever since a joke that’s going about 2 it’s going to explain come on your face it’s going to come on yesterday and you’re going to beg for it and so hits is it is I’ve had people beg me to come in the third eye and it was hard to resist but this is going to be almost as good as that sharing you this one liner inside joke and just a minute but to wrap up this sort of dark out thing that we were doing with the coal thing is that it how do you know how do I hedge against being the creepiest man every like people think that Barney the purple dinosaur because he and forgive me if I’m butchering the facts here but as far as I know he’s doing what I considered to be taboos for me which is charging women money to have sexual penetrative intercourse with them above all without protection and making that into a to me that’s not a scalable business model and you can ask your doctor wife but Barney I mean I get it and I get that that’s the love thing being cultivated generated so I think I don’t know whether I consider that good pressure bad press for modern Neo Tantra or what not but I’d love to have them on the podcast I’m sure it’s going to happen and I can’t say that I was a fan of the art form of Barney the purple dinosaur but but but I would love to get to the full story and also talked about the ethics and this medical the medical duty of care that comes with sexual and pinch of intercourse with anybody so anyway that’s the sad but who were talking about okay what if you were intrigued and maybe turned on by me talking about these erotic circuit boards then you also have to be somewhat red-flagged and starting to cringe and go where how old is this get arranged in what are the incentives and how do you how do you manage the Eagles and how do you who’s in charge it’s like you can’t it’s a scary thing but you wouldn’t work but that’s why when I went when I say what I realized for me the aha moment in my sexual career was that if I want to have out-of-the-box sex I have to pay lots of money for it from professionals who have trained her nervous system to do theater performance of sexuality as escorts or as Dom’s or as porn performers because they’re good sports they’re not spoil Sports about any of the stuff for the most part if they’re treated well and respected and then contracts are here too and they know what they’re getting into and hopefully they’ve matured and hopefully their brain has developed to its full capacity IE the age that it takes to actually I don’t say that to you exactly so you better know there’s a dimension of Ethics when it comes to harvesting teenagers for your for whatever Annette and I have had some of the best sex in my life as a 30 year old being fucked up fucked senseless by teenager in a row in a monogamous relationship and I will I will tell you that it’s it some it was worth the daddy issues that I had to deal with it was worth reparenting her and it was worth every bit of emotional kind of awkwardness that there wasn’t some of the an Amex because she was such a good full spirited Prime late night it was funny cuz I was like I want to settle you down and basically like I could teach your making a kid with ADHD sit in class is like no she wants to fuck wildly she wants you to perform more than you possibly ever could even at 30 and and she and she is not she doesn’t need these esoteric practices too heavy multi-orgasmic she’s fucking coming or brains out like so hard and I and I couldn’t sit her down the aisle still enough to do any of the practices that I thought were going to be so enlightening and went in the great thing is is it a fuck it like it is certain point you just say no guru there’s a song about it’s like no guru no no scripture No play just in the Dow of the thing so anyway so that’s a side note to say there is a sacred place for adult for fully mature brain develop adults to be having sex with teenagers and and I know that it can be done because I’ve done it but it also takes you can’t just treat them like a commodity please you got to you got to think about pedagogy Nikki learned from the person that you’re teaching teaches you things to like a circle so then so we’re talking about these ethics and where I wanted to just close that point about how I do my best to not be a cult leader I thought I figured it out pretty simply and correct me if I’m wrong but basically it’s it’s I dare you to to indict me for the the criminal and civil liability of misconduct for for for structuring a certain way so this is how I this is this is very simple as this is like this I said that this is a different the difference from a cult leader is that I’m a porn director I pay women to be directed and then I pay whoever I want to I will I will I will choose performers who I resonate with for whatever we would like to do together to make beautiful art and and I will compensate them and pay them to take time out of their lives to be a part of my design and to be directed by me they’re not paying me for healing for enlightenment for direction for guidance and I’m directing them and Meghan gratifying myself and taking their money in convincing mind fucking them and taking more of their money and more than money until they don’t talk to their friends because of and that’s how Colts are basically extractive from their students the colors are extracting from their devotees the difference is how many colors do you know that actually give their devotees money I will pay you oh now I’m making corned a porn director and I am more karmically correct than the fucking Guru who is fucking having people kiss his feet and take your money so who would have thought that the corn directors were the most enlightening Yogi’s to ever attempt to be divine and I have my favorites and I’m a fan of some of them I want I want to see the names but right now but that cuz I wouldn’t want to leave any out you know what I mean bless you all for paying people to direct them into your Twisted fucking fantasies and giving them that dignity like hats of their not wondering about it cuz there’s that was having a conversation today it’s like a buyer’s remorse if I say to you I’m just saying if you remember when you had to if you were old enough to know that there was a day when when when your allowance equals one CD for $15 so humorous if you never had experience this is important I think this is important teaching is important teachable moment is that is that and I don’t want to be today. Take care no man’s planning anything in them to have fun here but this is like this is this is late so here’s the funny thing though you think about I remember what it was like when I had to convince myself that amusing that a CD that fucking sucked was actually good because I paid money for it and I would not let myself suffer the indignity of having made a mistake so I was in a state of denial and delusion so so so feeling this isn’t meditation okay everybody think of something that you paid money for that you discovered was in the zoo is suboptimal and you used mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you actually liked it even though you knew deeply that you didn’t like it but it was called buyer’s remorse it was called the sunk cost fallacy of sunk cost fallacy is that because you invested something into this you have to continue beyond the point of no return because you can’t live with yourself other ways so that is this Twisted perverse placebo effect that happens when it’s like I went to the sex guru to get healed and he said for 9999 I would get here and but I but I could also upsell to the bonus extra double healing deluxe super Cosmic Crystal trademark excetera right thing and try before you buy money back guarantee accessories that you’re all of his legal he’s in fine print all the stuff but there is but that’s where it is we’re expecting to have some result that you paid money for and you will question whether or not okay did I was a hole in my heel did I pay enough money to pay more and some money and it is it distorts things and you did it it did contaminated in a way for that so I’m skeptical that I can be done right in that sense and that’s just me so what I say let’s work in the garden together my time equals your time and now we’re planting trees equals an hour of Yoni massage your prostate massage and therefore it’s a flat equal everybody has the same it’s his first come first serve you know and orgasms for work shirts that was my hand jobs for Humanity and helping a tree with two or so you’ll see it yeah it’s a white paper was written so is he ever gets faster so so that’s how I’m not going to be a cult leader is that I’m not going to charge people money to be Pawns in my game of or are you going to be players in my Game of Thrones Township Township twister you will get paid handsomely to be in my theater my game of Township twister and you can quit you can get any time you know that’s that’s that’s the thing to you won’t be like oh if I walk away now you know that then where I’m not like what I paid for I’m I’m already invested so much forever so so many different dynamics of of incentivization happening in this thing is so anyway that that was I think it is important to lay that out and and this is probably the first time I’ve articulated it on the podcast but I just was having this conversation today with this answer the CD metaphor thing where it’s like you know it did that it’s it’s a problem that way so so that’s I will not be extracting money from people in that in that way I’d rather pay them to be in my in my Productions and feel better about it that way so getting back to the fun stuff in the production itself so imagining that that would be the way from now on where I’m like if you want to that’s basically what I just described about that circuit of three people as a minimum to starting point is like that is the that is first base now you know that’s first base because getting into the circuitry of actual intercourse that’s where it required that’s where we get into the medical the medical responsibilities aspects and we get into more of the karmic sharing we’re really swapping scum he’s on an astral level at that point more so than if it’s an outercourse thing and you can’t go back once you know I don’t want to sound like a prepaid only sound like a six- future but but they were right about this mean you’re not wrong about everything they’ve had no sex for anybody ever. Is not the solution to people having sexually transmitted demons running rampant all over the place and it’s about making them your friends and making them work for you not against you and making them expose themselves properly and in you know where it’s not a pure realm we are not going to be perfectly protected in fear we can strive for that and we can use Kundalini and Prana and mantras and all of our medicines in purgatives and things to create a cleaner vessel to make more harmonious more resonance more signal-to-noise ratio and that is what to me this is all about and why we are missing out so badly to not be like I see this if God is wanted you got it for not created to nipples I can’t suck both nipples at the same time I tried some women I can do it on I’ve done it and you can do it some women is possible but for the most part so what does that mean what are you do do you limit God or do you just find someone else to be on the left or right side of you you know what is the big deal so when I think about this math equation how many erotic how many out of the box meaning not really the selective like subjective nuanced little erogenous zones that people get overtime in our lives but the out-of-the-box everybody is wired this way count how many erogenous zones you have and how what is the minimum number of mouse penis and genitals or fingers are human appendages required to simultaneously stimulate all those places it’s more than one person I can tell you that much you know so I just want us to start there and be creative in 2N to learn how to understand that we’re missing out and we should be wanting to gamify maximizing human potential for orgasmic pleasure because that is exorcism orgasm equals exorcism in some cultures who are Les Les Mis Sara Lee poetic about the floury discourse of symbols about sex life like a Latin American Shaman is said about her sexuality in the end in her how she explained why monogamous marriage was not really a thing in a culture that permitted extramarital sex and it was that in her mind and I am not going to say her name to cool her but I will say to paraphrase the essence of this wisdom is that to her mind it was just like an orgasm is like taking out the trash and that is not that’s not to say that it is mundane or a chore it is that it is a responsibility of hygiene in your household of your body Temple you need to have orgasms they need to be fulfilling need to get the job done and that is the exorcism aspect of it so the howling screeching all of these things that are considered that witches were burned forming figli sounds that those are the sounds of actual Holiness the set of holy the sound of Holiness is a woman’s orgasm and so let’s make those come more abundantly and let’s utilize map map the erogenous zones out of the box and then map the additional ones that are my favorite song and when you talk to me like this and this certain place I’m in the back of my head there whatever and then everyone has their own map so we can learn each other’s maps and if you don’t know your own map then you can ask people to help you there’s people who would love to lick and kiss and touch you and head to toe to find and explore you and and from a breasted state of consciousness D nice and yes I like to will you bring out the best in me that’s all I think that’s all you guys add that I can’t top that is the way to end so then really that was we didn’t even know that we put the icing on the motherfuking cake by saying you bring out the Best in Me so there was a documentary about at the peak of my desire to become a a rock star in the the crust Punk metal genre grindcore all that fun stuff I was studying that I wanted to understand and clock the music industry so I was watching every documentary I could find understanding music marketing and all the stuff and then I found this great documentary about about Jimi Hendrix and and I believe it was his fiance at a time who later became his wife if I remember correctly and she was talking about the time where he was building momentum and getting lots of gigs but still underground and she said something that stuck with me forever and if this moment which is it basically the hidden tension was used turn Express yeah we we all knew he was going to get sign or we all knew that you was going to take off he was going to blow up and so she said it was just about if someone puts put the icing on the motherfuking cake you know and I know and I felt that we we’re ready for that and we did some we had some we had some ice and get put on a motherfuking cake we did you get you always want more but I look back and I don’t think we could handle more so we got what we got and now I’m on a different I have a different cake I have a different cake mix and I don’t know if it’s that time I don’t know if it’s time to put the icing on the cake or not yeah I don’t know I mean the cake it’s getting cold she heard it mean if you’d if anyone has icing out there can it please be stevia-sweetened go Steven Johnson I don’t know how to hack them will work on that today I know it’s actually what I heard is that it’s a weird additive that they used to cut it because it’s so super sweet that you would basically died of sweetness if you didn’t like the step on it with some other things so I think that’s why I love growing Stevia and having a leaf to munch on and put in the tea because then you know is nothing else being put into it and it’s just as powerful you don’t really need to if you had the the live leaves one leaf enough will be enough to knock your head off for an hour so yeah I know on that snow yeah we’re going to put this devious fresh leave puree motherfuking icing on the cake I will put the icing on my own motherfuking cake that reminds me in 1 minute I just when I thought we couldn’t go out with a bigger bang this is going to be at because there was a a ritual ceremonial I called we called apart emoni where was the Psychedelic birthday party and we smeared cake all over each other and had to basically devour for the birthday gal of her own cake and it was just nipples and asses and I wanted to be in after from there I was my breasts Elsa. Playing for sure that brother and brother best me for sure but that when I got to put the icing on cake my damn self so don’t let anyone fucking tell you that you’re not none of me if you feel like it I mean I think we’re done I just can’t I’m going to fucking drop my phone right now when I might drop my phone on the couch citizen of the count but oh shit it’s next level add icy Cipher geise that’s going to have some cake with that icing okay thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Exploring the Future of Sex Tech with Jenna Owsianik TPP156

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In this episode I’m joined by Jenna Owsianik a sex tech expert who sheds light on a vast array of sectors that have been outside of my reality tunnel. She helps to provide context and optimism for technology in the sexuality space and helps me to overcome some of my deeply rooted luddite technophobia. It was an honor and pleasure to discover and explore new dimensions of sexual futurism and I’m looking forward to having her as a returning guest to keep the tantra punk podcast community informed and operating ahead of the curve in the sex tech space.

Please visit: https://futureofsex.net/future-of-sex-report/

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Jenna’s website:
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About Jenna:
Jenna Owsianik is a Canadian sex tech expert. Since 2014 she has been the editor of FutureofSex.net, the world’s leading publication on how technology is changing human sexuality, today and tomorrow. She is the primary author of the Future of Sex Report (2016), which covers state-of-the-art sex technologies and the five major fields driving innovations in intimacy: sex robots, remote sex (teledildonics), immersive adult entertainment, human augmentation, and virtual sex.

A trained journalist with a Masters of Journalism from The University of British Columbia, Jenna’s reporting has appeared on Futurism.com, Al Jazeera English, CTV British Columbia online, CBS Sunday Morning, CBS 60 Minutes, Global News, and CKNW Radio in Canada and the United States. She also holds an Honors BA in Women’s Studies and French from The University of Western Ontario.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin and also a sex tech consultant and she mention my podcast in a post on social media after she heard an interview I did with vehicle and Butler from intimate. I know which is one of my favorite recent episodes where we were able to talk about the future of sex in terms of blockchain cryptocurrency in and all the new opportunities are happening there so I’m very pleased to know that there’s been a no pun intended ripple effect in that that conversation is led to this connection now and I’m really excited to be having this conversation and I’ll just say before we got continued an introduced Jenna is just that I apologize for the the drop in quality and next to the mobile after situation so the museum the application on my phone instead of at my studio so please bear with any of the background noise and quality loss and with that said Jenna would you please tell us all about your history in life and what was you into this fascinating world that you’re playing is this expert consultant set up an interesting journey into the space my background I have an undergraduate degree in women’s studies so I’ve always had an interest in how sex and gender shape human interactions in the ways that culture disability Grace influence people maybe, how how they’re treated and Suboxone has been like a focused me what’s important and being involved in that I I’ve never really loved mainstream representation of women sexuality in particular and out of minority groups that I don’t think the General Lee mainstream media does an even more nuanced way when it comes so you can just like white straight man it’s sort of language has the most negative things about what’s happening but we don’t always hear the positives about Saxon and I think it’s just really important for us to be having Frank and Don scentsationals conversations about sex sex education in engender because you know we’re here most of us because you know somebody had sex but it’s sort of it is not on your podcast but places in outside of the sex tech industry it’s been like oh you can’t really talk about it unless it it’s it’s the Nacogdoches right so that’s been me wanting to get into reporting and journalism regarding sex has to really be able to share some of these positive stories or even push some of the negative topics out there but with more of us solutions-based Focus really highlight different yo so-called alternative sexualities because there’s a lot of people whose voices are missing from a conversation and props their sexual preferences or not so alternative after all we’re just not seeing seeing them in so that’s really will have my passion is gone and gone into it to this it’s sort of funny how I’m working with the future sex now because I used to be a researcher on a show that never took off but it was supposed to be like a documentary series on the history of sex and now it’s always been an area I’m interested in and just always happy to meet new people and hopefully start discussions where we can talk about creating a positive and exclusive sexual future well thank you for sharing that very very well said in that yet Continuum of history and the future hopefully yeah you’ll get to do some coverage of historical material as well and made me think about a really good series by I can’t remember his name right now it’s like one of the guys from Monty Python but he do them a couple of ancient history of sex kind of thumb Adventure very adventurous and very entertaining and comedic expirations and some of the most some of the most potent information and so liberating and healing is is coming from looking at how well the Glory Days if a lot of coaches were people were way more open and and expressed and whatnot so I hope you had a hope you do get to do more stuff as well just while we’re on that topic what was what was some what are some of your interest in the history of before we get into the patterns that you say now in the present history I think about the main focus of the developers of the show in what we were looking at was just type of like Miss busting about sex like everything you thought which I believe is too much of a generalization sort of the push for monogamy in a relationship right now I think things are changing we have this kind of you of you know the nuclear family being always the way it was so it always the way things were and thinking about you know what the past that everyone was announced he’s you know had her sexual care relationships but you know very old artifacts and what not and so that was sort of that was interesting to me because I I’ve always kind of felt like growing up personally it’s always the snow this is what you do as a young lady you do that when you get married to a guy at this age and whatever and that’s how you’re going to be happy but I think you know for everybody is just because that’s what a lot of people do it’s not necessarily the right thing for you or that it’s not culturally created just so that was sort of interesting to me this opening out ideas about maybe the heaviest history isn’t so much what we think it was it’s not so like what it was now but maybe you know there are more sexual acceptance about maybe having a relationship romantic or sexual with someone who wasn’t your monogamous married partner well I totally agree with all that and I’m sure you must be a fan of that book sex at dawn would say yeah big bucks that we were looking at and I think we spoke on the phone to Christopher Ryan to see if that could kind of develop into a show but yeah I agree why but with it was interesting because I was working for a private party entertainment has as a production company at West and they had produced the series called I think you know people interested in Kankakee and it was funny was the the big Co he was saying that you know that show did really well but like 10 years later you didn’t think that if you pitched it would work like doing would have been open to it and maybe that’s why the history of sex didn’t get picked up because you know how fast is our culture is also like a sexual with it and I don’t know why I picked up maybe you know there’s more stuff on the internet if you don’t need cable and I’m yeah it’s interesting to think about the trends in why things like 10 years earlier mine’s been accessible and then kind of 10 years later maybe maybe that’s just too risky Essentia sitting at these patterns and yeah it kind of brings us into now the present we’re really I mean I would love to see something like I’m missing Chris Ryan Christopher Ryan document in documentaries are being interviewed what not end in TED Talks stand and I feel like he breaks it down in such a heartwarming and and validating way for everybody to validate everybody’s was otherwise consider to be sinful you know if you can take a deep sigh of relief even if you are interested in monogamy but I think some people feel really bad sometimes when they’re attracted to somebody who’s not their monogamous partner and I mean that I may just I think it just makes the desire more taboo and more you know forbidden indeed indeed well yeah but I’ve got a couple of thoughts I’ll ask her if you’ll questions way to that that I’ll save for a bit later and I’ll just kind of make a note that there is a dimension of the futurism of sexuality that’s happening through the the global webcamming free live webcam being whole infrastructure that’s exposing and creating space for some of the most elaborate Creative Group sexuality Expressions I’ve ever seen and it’s it’s actually this huge Catalyst to to push all these boundaries towards more queer and Polly normative Behavior anyway I want to see that thought for later we’ll get so get around to it if we have time but that’s something I’m really thrilled about the will let’s let’s talk about you if you would what are some of the now looking at this accelerating technological train ride the roller coaster ride perhaps they were on what do you see now in the modern era the rapidly accelerating kinda techno future area that we’re looking at what are some patterns that you’re observing from your journalism in your research into that that direction of time was he must know cryptocurrency and blockchain it’s like every time I check my email I have a new press release or something from a company that’s trying to launch a token for the sex industry and that’s that’s really appealing I don’t but still it’s still obviously needs to get figure it out and I think that everyone should listen to your on episode with Leah Colin Butler Illuminating discussion about blockchain people performers are people maybe who are entrepreneurs trying to. You know their money get paid and you know keep privacy so you working sex tech or something or your sex worker or something to do something sort of related to sex it can be real big problem to open a bank account to keep it open without it being closed because they think something you’re doing is you know unsavory late or very sex negative and then of course there’s issues with privacy and safety and so I’m there’s just a lot of folks out there who are excited to think that in your blockchains a way to make it so there’s ways of paying people that’s outside of the mainstream where they can’t shut it down and I’m hopefully being able to to protect privacy as well so that that’s really interesting and exciting cryptocurrency and blockchain so I wonder how it’s going to hear from now I’m very keen to know what all these tokens around or going to be doing cuz there’s just so many and then what’s also come out more is I’m seeing more virtual reality sex games with outperformers their likeness inside so we have like stars like KCl there and yeah so basically I think what they do is that the most part they wear motion-capture suits and their likenesses recorder than the different facial expressions and then they get put inside video games and so can others as they can send it to this is what how they have their IP to have their you know digital duplicate used I think that’s really interesting because he how you can say that with someone without reformers but that could also be applied to two maybe you know of your own personal fantasy or maybe a long distance relationship where you’re able tags immersive sexual experiences that that seem real with people who like to be intimate with bite me you’re not able to just because he know they don’t exist but it’s interesting how it’s it’s it’s it’s been something that I like literally that I don’t understand that we’re prography Industries in really trying to do is respond to the yard so hopefully sales and into interactive games to bring back the cash what’s interesting but it also has had some effect source of the muses outside and I’m sure you’ve heard a lot about sex robots was just thinking about that was going to the next thing I would want to ask you about what you’ve got on your status so if you want to talk about sex robots in use might not really tell you is like usually it’s it’s basically an animatronic sex doll that looks like the hydro normative type of thing that’s usually for being treated for straight men there are people who are trying to think of you know all what about people who have different interests on what would women want a sex robot right now what is really in development and on sale are these animatronic life-size love dolls right that right now they’re their bodies don’t move but they may some a heat up some cancer walk in their lips but the the one that looks the best and he let actually gone on sale is I’m from realbotix and so realbotix is a subsidiary of Abyss tree they make real doll and so they finally after a few years of no being in the media and working hard with them some really great roboticist I’m an AI developers they finally released their first generation robotic head it’s pretty cool you should check on YouTube or if you have to just go to robotics. Com it it’s it’s it’s pretty much a safe for work website I mean really cool how the system to kind of change the face on the robotic head is is a sub magnet in Silicon system and look it looks super super realistic and I think the doll is quite the same price I think it might be about 10 grand but if people aren’t interested that they all still has like a knife that’s about $20 a year where it’s like an AI personality. That’s the idea so why I’m saying all this is really exciting it’s just because covering sex robots myself there’s a lot of hype there’s a lot of vapor where a lot of things that is like people just trying to just poor reporting about sex robots because it’s just you know it’s such a sensational topics of the medial pick it up and you know often report things that aren’t true like there’s one Infamous our love is all that I won’t say the name of it but got a lot of press about 10 years ago but yeah it’s it’s never really been questioning people who are following sex robot development have some questions about authenticity so what’s interesting about realbotix from the makers of real doll is that this is like this is sophisticated Robotics and it and it looks fairly realistic and it’s actually on sale it’s not just people talking about an idea that’s real and I mean it’s not Everyone likes the idea of these very like you know Barbie ass love dolls being programmed pre-programmed girlfriends or programs on sex toys of course it’s all so it’s it’s crazy in a way to think that you know we’re able to create very lifelike robots even if it’s just that it’s available this is Wellston yes to stirring up a lot for me because I’m the one the one hand i’m simultaneously the ultimate Luddite and deep ecologists then listen to see everything just dissolve back compost back into the Earth and start fresh but on the other side I have to say that you know the the money that’s breaking the world go around is going into startups in mostly Tech startups in holy spaces so the only the only hope that the the green freak hippie you know if people like me my never have is that we actually just write software that runs on these applications and if you know if we can make a robot girlfriend who teaches you Tasha and then when you have a real relationship you’re actually very well trained and it’s actually more like it’s raining like Marsh the way you would have a martial arts training dummy nobody nobody goes into much their students his look at all these perverse Effigies of humans that you’re punching like what what is I hear you guys are demented it’s like well we honored training and violence by violence Sports in combat but we don’t honor training and sexuality and I think I’d rather have rather have life replicas that actually teach my whole body how to move and hold weight and you know actually engaged in just a flat screen of pouring and they’re basically only touching a mouse and hunched over with bad posture on a computer screen if you compare those two options if there might be some salvation here but I’m not going to endorse anything for sale but I’m very curious about if you could just put in download a script and that script is something actually useful for therapy you know Sex Therapy could download its entire lexicon of techniques and make it psychoanalyze you and be your surrogate and do everything you know that and it could be trained by some of my colleagues to be really a net benefit to prisoners and you know that’s why I’m just breaking off have you ever covered any any any of that sort of what what are some feminists thoughts on on this stuff that are more open-minded I guess myself a feminist maybe if people don’t agree with my phone or go ahead and I don’t know and I think some guys who buy laptops to get a bad rap and it’s not people doing this and said there’s a therapeutic effect that can work you know people have a lot of sexual shame and Trauma right it’s not necessary always easy to talk to someone even if they love you even if you miss you’ll like they like you it’s exposing I’m not saying that we should all just talked to sex robots and that’s going to solve everything people have been seriously traumatized by shame and then you know there is a lot of sexual abuse that unfortunately happens in the world and if there’s a safe way for people to to kind of Express themselves in a non-threatening way and maybe with you know some type of therapeutic software that can kind of disgust or you know maybe anticipate be able to read you write like why why you might be talking in a certain tone or having certain gestures like maybe like something like maybe a therapist but you don’t make me crap like artificial intelligence might be even more better you know what one day and I think that that that That’s so exciting potential and it’s also while in the big giant loved all this is just one one type of sex robot that could be different ones that could really help people who want to explore their own sexuality and aren’t even thinking about that I’m not interested in the physical I’d be more interested in like you know the womanizer sex toy connected with like a super Advanced like Siri you know because it’s like that like the mental and that and there’s probably a pretty vanilla thing. But they know there can be some people with limited Mobility what she knows what will happen with a note to self pleasure and I think there’s people in all age groups will always be buying sex products and then that’s not saying everybody needs to get into the market it’s a great Market it shows that you know people as they age they still want sex but you know Mobility goes down it’s not it’s not like you I miss you and able-bodied and so I think there’s bad and there’s a waste for me exploring desires that you might be afraid of that that maybe are not simple at all like I really am interested in sex world where there’s different players like it’s like second like second life but people go into me and I have sex in it’s like you don’t need your body for that. I mean you either way of interacting with with the computer of course but you can be almost anybody you wanted and you can even try things that maybe you’re too scared of her maybe you really always wanted to do BTS on or he’s just talked to someone of the same sex and you want to have a virtual sex experience but you’re so like you’re worried about some of you like this virtual sex roles has fake almost like their own communities write a sex-positive there’s always see how the internet’s not completely safe place I’ll be asleep but there’s thought I think sometimes when you talk about sex robots are online but you know that but maybe it’s just people who don’t fit into this one way of sexuality that we’ve sort of been taught about at at you know and I like spending current 6. Can be just you know you want to you know sometimes you need to explore to know who you are or just inconsiderate and I think these type of technologies that are emerging are allowing people to express themselves sexually and so that enables people to be fully fully Express chinos on a human level and I think you know obviously is always important and necessary it’s just that there’s there’s a lot of good that can come out of exploring oneself in your kind of suffering up to this I mean at first glance do you know why I feel like all this is just it’s going to create Skynet scenarios perverted perverted Skynet scenario that I like afraid to even though but I’m going to counterbalance that that technophobia with also thinking about just right now as we speak I’m thinking about well how many people how many families and children are killed because drunk drivers on a Friday or Saturday night or are going out to a bar to try to hit on people to try to get laid and it’s like the harm the way that the current. I was like this over instead of being a cyber sex you know psycho sex an astronaut of or cyber not have cyber sex you know instead of that you’re going to have to do it the old-fashioned way which is get drunk and drive drunk to try to get laid at a bar and potentially have anal unwanted children or be spreading diseases or to have consent be blurred so there’s a lot of factors to compare this to us I really hope that when this is really start to roll out that there’s people taking really good doing really good research and and and covering it the way the way that you’ve been what not to be able to have compared the the research and just say hey if this is a way to reduce harm then there might be an advantage that you know just think about how much anything about how much violence and videogames and how much crime and then just Madness it’s been just put out within the video game space and if a fraction of that much of that technology and that funding went into technology that facilitates healthy stuff to sexual exploration and we will see a lot more Innovation and you know it said rather Embrace whatever is going on there then what’s going on with all of the violence in media and video games and you know work all kinds of War gaming of different kinds of things like just even having these conversations right to discuss like no deposit deposited but I think they like what exactly when you use a comparison like we’ll have a positive or how how productive for Humanity of society or other right so yeah any other patterns that your side’s the sex robots like I guess I’m sure you totally covered teledildonics and you know that’s probably something that people haven’t heard is it will be interesting to explore and then besides that any other I like to see their long-distance sex toys so that use haptic feedback so it’s suddenly like Gamers here you know if you have like one of those with these long-distance sex toys they’re meant for people to connect remotely what they do is that they have sensors in them that for I guess I owe you search how to roll sample because that’s where they’re normally marketed even though you can use them in different ways by state like there can be like interactive sex leaves I mean how could you know his number into one and the way that that moves it can affect how maybe and then vice versa and then I know some company mail devices you no work for penis having devices or you know dildos that they might operate with each other as well so there’s that I’m so or we I think it’s really been I think it’s mostly popular among cameras and so it’s we are always interested in focusing on relationships and intimacy so there is the development with tilted Onyx for men those toys are a bit better but no one’s for for you know that women are people who you know might like to try to be happy bodysuits where it’s not just genital to genital contact but you know incorporating different types of really interesting as well so gold Onyx is this is like Infamous tattoo has like that old is Onyx or the 268 Patton and it expires after it’s 20 year reunion this August about not exactly exact date about me goddess when it when it expires and so this is really significant because there I’m not sure if your readership is familiar with this but like space but there’s been like a number of projects that tried to get off the ground and you know really small startups that it’s a really interesting things with with with with not just with Tammy and I’m really pushing for it or you know development but unfortunately because there’s this really wide cotton cover is basically sexual communication over the Internet a lot of people have been sued or shut down in there if they’ve had to fight legal battles that you know that you know it’s the cost of the lawyers even if it’s pro bono I like one company like I think I think they did get off because they were looking for prior art and you know there has been you know the ideal tell the dogs existed before this time I actually was granted however they’ve been successful in suing people and people just cuddling cuz they don’t want to deal with you know all the legal problems that go with it so he was able to get it dropped to pay but if I don’t think it was a nice process were for the my balls it was not fun and I think they got scared people from entering the space in end or if they had on his face match lie angle to remain in the space after this August to see if people are really interested in tell hold on X or if you know if it was kind of holding it and it’ll be interesting to see how it grows I expect it’s going to grow more within live camming actually has more campsites have Incorporated tip activated sex toys so sexy that will that will basically for sponge to the sound of text so when someone is watching Aunt Pam performance that you know they tip and then whatever the tip or they will check my change the intensity or what device can do so exciting thing to look for and there’s this one of the trends because I think they’re not really marketed towards my body but I think it’s exciting and I’d like to see more in there I just don’t I’m not sure I’ve heard some people really like it arson but I think that like there’s much more sophisticated Technologies because I think with which is it was very low Fidelity like you all the sexual movements you can make and compared to a without quit that may be a smart dildo or smart Middlesex leaves can do is like you know there’s so much Lost in Translation so keep an eye on for next year well well I guess this makes me think they eventually they’ll probably have some sort of pressurized suit where you could actually just have a regular massage that way you don’t even erotic now is standing but it just seems like things are going to move in that direction anyway of just remote everything in the eyes I was even thinking now you’re saying this if if you were if you were wanting to do this more of a sexual therapeutic thing and you were in if it’s it’s like the it’s been very treacherous the territory of being surrogates and I’m sure the lot of the sex surrogates that have existed since it’s been legal least in the US has to have been in situations that they probably would have much rather had had some sort of mediation device that could actually perform physical manipulation of flesh but we’re not with them having to be right there you know in the room but that you could actually be like in like in some lab Booth where you’re behind the glass but there is a surrogate apparatus or likeness of a human or something that you can speak through with that you can move through and it will be kind of like a like a space suit or something but you’re not interview at those those robots that they put out the work on space stations if you could work on it unless someone sexually LDV and a harmful way and you could actually induce certain forms of somatic Therapies in that that might be even more scalable than trying to find the people brave enough to want to do that stuff cuz yeah I think this will hopefully go in that direction or this everybody will is Hedonism will be counterbalanced by the therapy going to be a big competition for a robot out of tar so that is heard about exercise but it also had funded project to make the first digital tricorder in with a Star Trek tricorder that basically diagnosis in the competition’s on what’s the guys name I forget what a multimillion-dollar basically tries to you know get these robot out of Hearts made it and I didn’t I don’t believe there’s any connection to sex but it’s more to help people in remote locations doctor service is or Nurse Services of course development and Technology happening with money behind it up some big implications for what’s possible all right well this is a whole nother I raised money to do a the first porn in space in are they raised I don’t know some percentage of their goal but that was interesting headline I sell alpaca should I I don’t know that it wasn’t quite there gold but yeah then I haven’t heard anything about whether or not happen but I’m sure it will eventually he’ll be in there and on top of that there was a harness device that would allow for zero gravity so that people could reproduce in space cuz if people thought is like what happens if you start to try to get it on I’m sure that’s enough to try but what if you end up swinging yourself across the space shuttle and then you lose the ejaculate in this is floating in the air NASA has spent sending it has already sperm to space just to basically see all the details but yeah they’re they’re wondering if it’s possible to reduce gravity going to affect reproduction is it going to make it as easy like how is sperm motility yes oh yeah and I mean that people are going to want to call and eyes Mars eventually or it’s not like they want to now so yeah I wonder they sex is coming just don’t know it is coming and no pun intended of well that’s interesting cool then see if we can assume any other so we got to tell the Don X and everybody’s pretty well are there any other innovations that we should be aware of I’m certainly yet I didn’t know there was that patent situation so I’m really kind of in the dark anything at this year please what’s interesting is just how in the last couple years or last year really there’s been just a lot more female lunch printer is coming and so I think that’s great because if you don’t like the pornography that’s out there but like granted it is at the clean a do you know you like a course in something about pornography with sex toys and sex tech products if you don’t marry the thing is is that there haven’t been so many going into it in the past the developers have been mail and she know that’s how that’s how it’s been but you know if you’re craving for that if you’re you know things for women that they haven’t liked so much more talk from an entrepreneur is making products and focusing on women’s pleasure in the in a sex-positive way which is really really important and in that kind of a kind of discussing the orgasm Gap and I don’t know if you know where the workout some tacos but it’s basically different studies that show different types of something like or just had her in sexual encounters I think men for the most part are like nine times out of ten they’re going to have an orgasm and then for women it’s in between one and two thirds of the time they’re going to have an orgasm so I mean it’s not like I always like to say it’s not all about orgasm there’s there’s more to Sexton that but just you know there is where is the discrepancy in and I don’t think there’s been enough focused on women’s pleasure and women focusing on their own pleasure okay because I know what you like and be open to just finding that out and so I’m just a really excited about how there’s this more women and sex text no putting their horses out there and if you don’t like their products which it which I I love products products I’m just saying like you know there’s this stuff there that’s that’s that’s happening it’s a great it’s a great thing to do if I guess right thing I wish there was more of us when I was growing up not sure I would have been if exposed to it because it’s hard to advertise when you are insects taxable I’d say it’s really positive it’s the adult performers sex check which they overlap but then there’s there’s different is that there are more women directors and creating Studios and I think I think that’s that’s great you know I think there’s more diversity the better and so about comes with like books of all backgrounds you know I think that the more people from different walks of life to develop products that are there software you know whatever it is a different really help cut down on the negative sexual things that happens with abuse assault that’s awesome. Do you have any on the platforms and the and we’re not to you that you publish on have you done a series or would you think about doing a series or anyting the chronicle sorted profiling women in insects take or women who are entrepreneurs in the space so that I will be happy thrilled to know more about than just be is that something that that you might do like a specific unit of focus on at some point so we can look into that later International women’s day we had a writer put together a peace sign about I think maybe 11 women in sex tech that you are doing interesting things and I hope we’ve also covered if you act like just serious but we do cover for a lot of different male female I mean he would but I guess they’re not going to find it but we just all genders in between and we’ve covered CEO Polly Rodriguez of Unbound and she’s really great shoes I don’t know if you’ve heard of her but she co-founded the women of sex tech community so she’s based in New York and Unbound is her company and it basically creates products for women and sell products for women’s pleasure and a really like it because it makes you feel good about yourself on their commercialism but you know that market in a way that it just because you know they’re really speaking to a demographics I think has been underserved well is that how Polly co-founded women have sex talking so it’s been like a networking group mostly for ladies who are or women identifying people to talk about problems and getting funny because I mean this is the times I’ve heard differing views and I’m not a funding sometimes and then with women going in there they might get treated a bit weirdly like they don’t really appreciate it or there’s just not as much interest in focusing or investing in Need for women’s pleasure but I think women are the future of sex. Net and we’ll have definitely have articles featuring women who are in it and then I think it’s women of sex tech stuff, and that’s just a bunch of women in sex tech or sex-related online projects that you know you might be interested if you don’t know a lot of women entrepreneurs in the space store in publishing online that’s cool I’m so I was at the crypto invest Summit in Los Angeles recently and there was a women in blockchain panel and there’s a number of there’s a really powerful really amazing women in the blockchain space were organizing and creating a different groupings in and just looking at a think it’s something like I don’t know where anywhere between effort numbers between only 2% of venture funding goes to women in Navy up two at the most like 10% but that’s probably generous so we have a long way to go and that’s that space is so much more I have a lot more hope for for transformation of culture through Venture funding when I do through replacing people on you know positions of authority and Power & politics to let you know that everywhere but I’m not really thrilled to know about that cuz I feel like yeah whatever whatever dystopian futuristic sex text scenarios might happen with really may be corrupted ingredient you know harmfully perverted men if their women in the space of Mino writing proposals and business models in business plans in pitching then hopefully more enlightened more feminist friendly future will be a that was my home okay so you’re moving along to another question so there has been it’s weird I feel like the green the go green kind of Boom it’s it’s almost like I don’t know I want I don’t want to call it a bubble but it seems like I remember in the late in the late 2000 and early 2000s around between 2822 I don’t know what you have wouldn’t wouldn’t say when it stops at any point but it did really kind of get big there was directors of sustainability positions opening up in all these different firms and I’ll and institutions and Recycling and just a sort of Renaissance of of the Earth Day by but it really got up the nerve is everybody wanted to go green and I don’t know if you get the sense of that sort of faded a bit from a Zeitgeist maybe people have gotten just more all about apps and all about smartphones and just like that in that movement and it around Elsa was big with the Inconvenient Truth coming out there and then being a I see a lot of celebrities speaking out about a lot more I think on the other half of the Earth but I’m noticing a gap I don’t know if you have noticed it but I’m curious now if you feel like in the specific unisex take space if there are people who are really coming out saying I hate let’s do this let’s do this development of psychological development for sexuality but let’s do it with certain environmental ethics and protocols in place as far as carbon footprint and as far as you know sustainability and sustainable products and materials and all but I feel like these people are really losing sight of the supply chain of Technology from ecological perspective I don’t know if you have any thoughts on that but for the sex tech industry I don’t think it has a great track record when it comes to sustainable projects or at least not in promoting them I imagine I think that if I had a better track record I hear about it cuz the pr people like to tell you what they’re doing great there is people like lovehoney they’re like and basically trying to make more vegan products so that’s not necessarily that let me hear me say that again like so it’s about regarding like semen safety and then making sure there aren’t animal products in your sex toys and I’m not an expert on that but there has been more discussion about vegan products and then and I think there’s some companies that really promote that is alternatives to leather like some type of a vegan alternative but yeah I don’t I don’t think it has a great track record I haven’t really heard much about it there are some 3D 3D printed 3D printing projects I’ll hear about every once in awhile and what kind of push like I’m an environmentalist point of you sometimes because I’m guessing you’ve heard of Eco sexual arousal stainable 3D printed sex toys that they people can fit themselves and any use out outside historic site right now project was called dildo at yourself idea of you know generally instead of mass producing a million sex toys like one-size-fits-all with 3D printing you know there’s more customizability so that’s that I think 3D printing has but just so you know it’s just because you 3D print something it doesn’t mean you should put it in your 30s to be like a protective coating put on auctions increases the technology gets better you will have to do all this DIY stuff. I got a clitoris 3D printed because there is an open source 3D printing projects to get that. I’m basically just to raise awareness because you know most of the clitoris is internal and people don’t know that and they don’t realize like they see just one little thing about that looks like underneath so I got that I don’t have a 3D printer but I went to something called like three beehives and basically it just links you to people in your area I’m in a very like safe manner I felt that are able to print designs for you and decent cost so I mean back something as well instead of like that can change how business is done because you don’t need to buy your own face 3D printer you there are going to be already are in this going to be more and if so needed to spend all the money you can get somebody else to do this and I don’t think the guy who cares right I want to get princess just a personal services so there’s it’s possible that is really cool I feel like if you could through and I have never thought about that really you know I’m kind of cynical and jaded and in my old old-fashioned but isn’t didn’t really think about how great it would be if there were even somehow edible totally organic totally cruelty-free edible ingredients to take to create these shapes with using machines like that mean I could be something that gives Pizza waiting two years for a part to arrive you can know we have the skin the scheme of anything friendship you know when the anti-globalization movement failed to stop the sort of thumb race to the bottom of wages where the sweatshops of the world with the lowest environmental standards for materials is like all of this plastic stuff that’s being manufactured in sweatshops and then shipped back to the US if the 3D printer can make that entire the bottom dropped out of that market because it’s so cheap as it is but if you could eliminate all of those Logistics by the way you’re saying like a localized distributed open source way to get the same sort of 99 cent store that you have your own 99 cent store in your garage take out that whole corrupted supply chain of international trade that’s really not with what is not healthy for the time but the news like bioprinting and I think people are the really interested in the house applications of of regenerative Technologies and Technologies and I think that there is no try that is possible to create it’s going to be possible at least a crate pills that are for like really targeted for the person so instead of giving like everybody like this is just a standard dosage know some people need different Doses and elderly people are often prescribed medications and so will you just expect another slice of this type of printing it has so many applications that can really enhance like you know what you said you could help get rid of fireman by cutting out all that transport and you know hopefully make fruit quality of life as well as medicine very good very good so I think whoever do with all that stuff a couple questions I have here if we have a few more minutes to get to wrap up I think we covered I was going to ask if you would share some with some women like space but it sounds like we got some good resources for that we laid out and I appreciate that so people can follow up and and look at those and then I guess the met the last question will be if you yourself had a blue sky budget to develop the start-up of your dreams and their futuristic sex text space What would be one of your dream projects if you’ve ever been in a brainstorming about it yeah well it’s a big question I would say yeah I think for for sex tech me to get payment and Publishing done on our own terms and stop Outsourcing like for instance you know trying there’s some people Facebook doesn’t allow any sex advertising or it could be something really likes a fish for work basic it is not like it’s hard to advertise the banks and I’m peanut processors they can just freeze your account and so I think something I mean maybe it wouldn’t be blockchain we would have to develop something but with the Sky High budget I just think that is made for and by the sex tech industry so that we’re not reliant on you know people who don’t have necessarily the intellects Experience open my Nest help a Dolores extech Industries you know so I understand why some companies want to get Facebook eyes but you know I don’t I think that’s just open a can of worms in a bit because it’s what’s good sex what’s bad sex should Facebook me to finding that and just in terms of online publishing a 90% about enchiladas Revenue goes to like Google or Facebook the duopoly so again if you’re publishing picture people are making money but it’s mostly those two people and so I think the way to circulate this I don’t think we should be like cow coloring to these big big companies that have all this power but not necessarily open-mindedness and I totally agree with that it’s a huge pain point and someone that I’ve certainly been let me know what I can say for personal experience I’ve had videos go viral on the more mainstream platforms that I shall not name but the second they really go viral they get deplatformed and that could have been career-changing for me you know if you have to build an audience so maybe it’s funny because Yahoo started out very much a highly trafficked adult almost classified platform if I’m not mistaken but there was there was a sort of kick-starting bootstrapping golden age of adult in the early days of the internet that got quickly sort of extinguish I don’t know why they don’t just have an official vetted adult only access sphere of their own Enterprises even if it’s a subsidiary with a different name or something if they have some distance from you know politically or something but they’re definitely missing out you know I don’t know why they don’t figure out how to make their algorithms could do anything I mean your algorithms good figure out how to only serve with I mean cuz I just wiped out a lot of they demonetized a lot of of content producers who run anything that could possibly be controversial for advertisers but why not just say oh you’re up you’re a right-wing gun that freak you know that whatever will hear is you get all of those ads and Penny Play Say Something for everybody so and I’m not putting that down imma you know that there’s there’s I’m just an example of what some of what gets with what get some persecuted by that but yeah I totally agree with that and I do feel like hopefully blockchain and you know these new permissionless content platforms like steam at for example as a good example publishing platform where you can get paid for your content and they just have a very intuitive there it is checkbox for not NSFW right and that’s it that’s all you need to know self-select I don’t know if it’s the community can can certify a gate but then it doesn’t get deleted it just goes into that not-safe-for-work category in that is all you really need a break myself but yeah that that’s a great a great idea hopefully everything will come to you to help the guy that process and you know actually know if I just have one less thing to put out there since I have you on the line and the folks who are the fans of your work might might get into this I don’t know if this is been done yet I don’t see how it seems like it would be the easiest no-brainer sort of fork of some sort of Open Source Code for a nap but basically you bringing bringing sex tech Down to Earth for my ecosexual perspective that I would love to see there be an app that’s exactly like Airbnb but what it specializes in is connecting people who are like glamping you know but for sex places where you can have sex in nature and go to a place in private property that is a place where you can go and feel free at this like like monetizing private 611 Tantra temples but but at the very least just feel like I’ve got a bunch of land with you know a cabin on it and I would love for people couples or whoever to go out there and have their full moon rituals and not be bothered people gawking at them or you know complaining about it and they can be as you can be as loud as you need to be to really go deep with sexuality which we also do not have the access to seal open up you know what their vocal cords as much as feel free being naked and Nathan Wyld so yeah let’s have an airbag recall are birds and bees like that so cool well hopefully yeah all of our dreams come true here to certainly plenty of plenty of resources being thrown around and now in the crypto Stacy know I’ve never seen so many hundreds of millions of dollars / around the planets online exchanges they never before so they do you know if there’s a will there’s a way let’s get well let’s hope for the best and certainly be optimistic about the potential for anything now yeah cool said you’re going to give your websites and Sandy final closing words anything else before we sign off your podcast cuz I’ve been a fan for a while so it’s nice to be here and you want to check out the 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Net we’re just vamping to be a responsive shame I know it took so long but it’s going to look a bit different soon if you are visiting today it’s not responsive just yeah you’re still a sex-positive future dates or anything we should be aware of I definitely can see YouTube easy easy for most corresponding all these matters I had no clue about a lot of this stuff and I’m so thank you for enlightening us and we will definitely be in touch soon thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provide ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Damas de