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Revolutionizing Adult Industry Payments with Allie Eve Knox of SpankChain TPP251

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Ameen Soleimani

Allie Eve Knox PicIn this episode I’m joined by Allie Eve Knox, VP of Sales at SpankChain for a exploration of her crypto journey and her role at the illustrious SpankChain crypto company

Allie is a Fetish Performer, Content Creator, VP of Sales at SpankChain

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

allie nox vp sales

super in debt,grad school, camming at night, do it house, didn’t have to sit in traffic

2014,

started shooting porn

custom videos, out of bedroom, camming

2017 found spank chain

got in fight with somebody on twitter,

you should hire me, sent resume, i work her now, these are the things i’m gonna do

coming into start up tech space, adult liaison, didn’t know how to deal with my dominatrix character

working with them since ICO

putting out a bunch of pr

we were so strange

aliens in the room

realized, people

weren’t assimilated into tech

did an ico in ico days 2017,

white paper, cam site, crypto only camsite, launched beta april 2018, no privates, no personal chat, site looked really good

beta for a year

discovered, shit hit the fan with crypto, started tanking, people stopped wanting to spend

hard to find user base to part with money

credit card payments brought in more traffic

user account process, get key phrases, all typical crypto stuff

people were really confused by it, constantly losing there stuff

had to completely overhaul the back end

took camsite down, launched few products

hopefully will be bring cam site back up

now first version, model profiles build off of that , where cam site and clip site built on

find favorite model

just put out very first version at AVN

model’s able to get own custom link,

here’s my link pay me through there

links to video content

basically whatever you want

so many benefits in crypto

I’ve had all my accounts shut down, I was violating the rules for selling panties or content

started taking crypto

no one’s gonna protect the adult industry

spankchain, we’re gonna make this for the adult industry

everything’s anonymous, not a thing where I wife is gonna find his credit card purchases

won’t get shut down, low fees

some sites take 50%

credit card processing, we pay taxes

with crypto we just take a 1% fee, .5% for merchants

stable coin, super exciting

really simple cash out process

wills done excellent job of making user experience super easy and intuitive

appreciate community coming together

building a platform models want to use

charge backs, all typical shit

take you’re finances

booty stable coin

really nice to count on,

really nice if I have $250 goal it’s gonna be the same price

whatever you bring in, minus 1% fee

at first didn’t have this on camsite in beta

having to explain price fluctuation

models want to know how to sell things

we just want to make it work, all the technical stuff I don’t know, it doesn’t matter

that’s all I need

I don’t really know how cash works or

don’t have anybody we partner with

gemini sex worker friendly

really good dealings with them

still have to go through exchange, kyc all those things

but I can kind of tease this, we are working on regulations for fiat offramp

load up on spank pay, go and pay bill

going through regulatory process on that, we’ll know mid march

due diligence, paperwork on all that

started camming, paid out on pay card

I could just go cash out automatically

really save me in times when I needed to get paid

that’s really gonna open doors for people

if we start seeing it in everyday practice showing friends

really hope that’s what’s coming next, h

we’re gonna clone product for other people in adult

cannabis, having a hell of a time with payments

there always getting fucked too, we’re gonna co-brand a product, like a white label

we targeted the people who needed this product

we wanted to build the things that the people needed

adult really needed it

this is what we’re all stoked on, this is how we live our lives

the bigger picture is white label it for whoever wants it

start with adoption for people who really need it

people who are unbankable

kind of a solution to a whole lot of problems

urge community to participate in this

send crypto on this

for me, someone in my camroom taught me how to use crypto

2018 started showing up different attitudes towards crypto

adult is always the forefront of technology

maybe if it takes off only a handfull will use it,

never came in there, we’re gonna change the game, we’re another solution we can solve a few problems, we’re hear, we don’t wanna fight

showing up year after year, friendly, hang out with models, provided good community

people started to take us more seriously

started winning awards, good press, kind of the black sheep, kinda strange ones

we were like the red headed step children of the industry

we kept showing up being friendly and cool, putting out products

markets have crashed but we’re still here

a little easier this last year, proven numbers, partners that really like us

been kind of a turning point

now its t

camsite didn’t have a lot of features

small team

takes a long time to do a lot of really cool shit

gave a space for people do do whatever they wanted

people slept

people garden

crypto allows you to do whatever the hell you want

free speech

so open, accepting

it was a no pressure zone, be yourself

smoke, eat

no ranking, no cam score

people were able to monetize it

one time, battle test on site, everybody on at the same time

we want you to break shit, push buttons all be streaming at the same time

spank house, going in tipping,

models streaming, we built this fucking product, spent every moment of our lives

really cool, everybody in this moment, so proud, so thankful model

spank house corporate culture

boys lived in venice beach, had a loft, had extra bedroom, most of team was remote

people would sleep on couches, get together a week a month, bang through things

boys had that place until this winter, downsized, it was a really great spot where the whole team could be together

we’re still remote, devs in canada, I’m in texas, to get team together on call once a week is not enough

company culture, spend a lot of time together, hang out together eat together, work together

we all get together and spend time together

working on this product, lived and breathed

I have a spank chain shirt,

we still have a problem, and have to build a solution

if eth is at 100 or 1000, still that problem out there, no one else is gonna do it

no one else has stepped up

we’re going to work every last second we possibly can

that’s one reason I’m still in this

I need someone to help me protect my money

I need this product

I will work tirelessly to make this product

this what drives every person on the team

whatever that markets gonna do

full force, here are the things we’re gonna do

market has changed so much

Exploring the Lifestyle of a Phone Sex Artist with Sensual Sharon Somers TPP217

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In this episode I’m joined by Sensual Sharon Somers for a fun and exciting exploration of the lifestyle of a phone sex artist. We learn about how the industry works, what it takes to make it, what to expect, how she’s been able to make it for years as a small business woman, the freedom and efficiency of home business operations, how she compassionately entertains and soothes the bizarre and often wounded sexual psyches of countless men, the patterns she’s observed, the broader ramifications for a more sexually healthy and expressed society, and much much more!

About Sharon :

Sharon has been a phone sex operator, recording artist and writer for adult websites for 11 years now. Her voice is well known online for the recordings of hundreds of erotic short stories she has done that are posted on her own sites and on erotic short stories sites.

https://erotictalkphonesex.com/index.html

https://eroticaudiorecordings.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello Debra Levin podcast episode summaries who is a phone sex artist extraordinaire that’s all kinds of erotic audio and I reached out to The Exodus Community on the forms of extras. Net to see if there are any folks out there would like to do some self promotion and increase I had you keep folks on this podcast and had a few people step up and want to be on the show and then she’s one of them and I’m excited to share this beautiful wild Amazing adult industry with her and learn about 11 years I believe career in doing phone sex and an erotic audio media and I’m also in that game so I always love to meet other people who are doing doing that work and share that talk shopping and learn about some of the tricks of the trade so with that said Sharon do you want to tell us about it whatever detail is appropriate to come ask your true identity and to allow you to have your stage name but just curious if you could tell the story of Sharon Summers if it’s not totally your personal thank you very much for having me first of all being like a lot of ladies in the business unfortunately I got into it because of financial desperation granted that’s not the reason all women get into it but a lot do it, the last chance type of job for some people so I found myself doing that but I I found out pretty quickly that it actually fit perfectly in with my life I wanted something where I can work from home have the freedom of hours to login logout whenever I wanted if I need to go out for the day have a dentist appointment or want to go to the theater to see a matinee I don’t have anybody’s permission I can just log out and go and I love that kind of Freedom it it really just fits in with my nature so I started doing that and then very quickly after getting into the phone sex work I started doing the erotic audios and so clients will submit their stories that they’ve written about their fantasies and I will narrate them for them and they have those to enjoy and listen to over and over and over I mean want to call is over it’s over I don’t record calls or anything help clients don’t either but when they have an erotic audio they can just listen to that anytime they want that’s actually surprised me how many have said oh yes I do he’s a few times a week and I’m like wow you’re really getting your money’s worth out of those and I started doing writing for adult websites I had always written short stories for my own enjoyment before I ever got into anything at all. I’ve been writing short stories ever since I was a teenager and so I wrote a lot of the material for the earlier adios that I did before I mainly started doing one’s the clients submitted their work to me to narrate and so there was an owner of a phone sex company that was interested in posting some of my audio is on his his phone sex site from her clients that we’re waiting for collars and what not and so he said did you write these then I suggest and he said would you be interested in writing some blogs promoting my phone sex websites and I said of course I’ve never done it before but I’m willing to try so I’ve been writing for various phone sex websites for over 10 years on a weekly basis another operators as well because not all ladies enjoy the writing that they don’t have an aptitude for it and some companies actually will require the lady to submit a couple of written works a week because it helps a site with their search engine optimization Drive clients to the side against them higher up in the Google rankings and whatnot so they need somebody to write all this content and ladies that don’t like to write themselves will find somebody like me and I will write it for them then they pay me to do it so I do that in addition to the phone and the erotic audio said I do it’s so fascinating I just feel like we could be on Shark Tank or something right now or some other kind of really found your Niche and you it sounds like this is a calling for you and there’s so many layers of opportunity in ecosystem of feel like you are like pitching to Angel Investors and you’ve got a business plan you’ve got all these things kind of dialed in and and yeah just there should be a training program because it sounds like a dream life really isn’t it built the business unfortunately or fortunately for the veterans like me it has an extremely high turnover of women that we’ll try it some will only last a few hours some will last a few days so I’m a few weeks it’s not that common to find women that have been in it for the long haul like me and yet I know a couple of other ladies that have been doing it for 20 years 35 years have really been in the game from way before the internet even when it was just people working out of little Pocono call centers and whatnot I’ve always worked at home but when it started out before the internet people were working in these call centers I can’t even imagine doing a job like this then I call center it would be crazy but I know some of them have got this experience but a lot of girls that will try it they can’t deal with it they can’t deal with the needs and wants of some of these callers cuz they can be pretty unusual to have the kind waste so they will they’re just their socks off day they can’t do it so it has a very very high turnover of women that do it what do you think it takes to be one of the long-term success. I love to know what what you feel like Nikki. The power well I can only speak for myself I don’t know what motivates other people I think for the ones that really find out quickly that it fits in well with the lifestyle that they want to work from home have the flexibility of ours what have you they make it work and that was the boat that I’m in I never went to college I had never worked from the time I finish high school until I got into this I had only ever looked after my grandmother from the time I finish high school so when you’re here for a number of years you’ve never worked a day in your life your options are kind of limited on the flea and easy I certainly didn’t want to have to go back to school I hated school it just that was not what I wanted I mean who exactly is going to hire somebody that has zero experience you know what are your options McDonald’s or Wal-Mart really and I definitely we knew I did not want to do that so I told myself from day one failure was not an option that I had to make this work and I have made it work there certainly ladies that are a lot more successful profitable than I am but I get by I get by just fine and it just it fits perfectly so I knew that I had to make it work and it definitely helped that I do the audio is in the writing because that supplements my income there’s some lady said they only do calls there’s lots of them that don’t do any audio at all most certainly don’t do any writing so I’m very glad that I have those other things that I do and I do non-adult voice work as well not a lot the majority of the voice works that I do is adult in nature but I still have several companies that I do small jobs for for PBX phone systems where you know you’re doing Prince one for accounting press two for human resources guy do stuff like that as well as those I have several of these small little jobs of months I mean they’re just tiny little things but I always figured no matter how small the job is like that even if this company is only paying me $10 a month that’s $10 I otherwise would not have it all adds to the pot at the end of the month that’s how I look at it so yeah you know sometimes I’ll get 20 of reading some months from a company other time so only be a couple but they all out outfits how you have to look at it and you never know somebody that you’ve worked for they make it some kind of a lead for you of somebody else that wants somebody to do something like this and they’ll recommend you so there’s all kinds of different things by I love the voice over work I do the most boring job I ever had for voice-over was I had to take the series of audios on english-as-a-second-language oh my God that was just torture it really was a job get through it it was just the most boring tedious thing but I’m not there to be entertained I’m there to narrate their script I realized that I’m not there to have a great time so you just get through the work and and that’s it and I’m grateful for all these little voice over jobs that come my way adults or vanilla weather brings up a good point which is that anybody who has or whatever reason the occasion to even dabble in anything they don’t industry it’s going to give you a lot of life skills and negotiation skills communication skills business personal finance all kinds of even even legal sometimes contract writing and reading skills and so I looked that you’ve been able to Branch out and just sounds like you’re living the dream of the freelancer who’s actually been able to make it and then I never have to work for the man in a way that makes you feel like you’re stuck in a cubicle 95 or something him at school, she’s like you don’t know how lucky you’ve got it I wouldn’t say I’ve living the dream you know talking to guys and every day and night about their 2 inch penis as I don’t know where that would be considered living the dream but whenever it talking to the grates on my nerves and I can’t listen to one more of them complain about how they have a 2 inch penis or some other bizarre problem I have I just keep telling myself these people you know your bread and butter people that I’ve told the first thing that they will say is all you’re so lucky to be able to work from home that is one thing that everybody says one of the first things when I when I tell people that I do that they’re they’re jealous they want to be able to work from home and they can’t and some of them I got long commutes and I mean I love live theater I go to Toronto several times a year to go see shows and lots of times I’ll be sitting on the train I go on the commuter train in the morning and these poor people there like slave helicopter laptops own and everything doing their work on the way to work and sometimes they’ll tell me oh yeah I take the train for an hour there and an hour back or there was one way to deceive in 2 hours each way I thought what kind of life is that to be commuting one to two hours each way I wouldn’t do that for anyting you know my commutes for four feet from the bed to the chair her basically I just can’t imagine people having to commute like that in their whole lives are wrapped up in this is like dark when they leave the house dark by the time they get home that’s not a life for me so I’m very very grateful I can work at home awesome yeah well I actually had they said I’ve done been this work quite a number of hours myself and I said some of the best money I’ve ever made and you always get those repeat clients and they just kind of stuck in a loop of like a broken record of the fantasy and I just want to pump you full of the money like your pinball machine or something really interesting you bring up the point about that the man with small penises and you feel like you have developed weather maybe it’s inmates you or make you feel like you’ve been able to be in some sensor a priestess of spiritual healer something some way of therapists in the sense that you’re helping people move make some progress in their their fantasy lives there and their body image of king of size issues that you get that fine that the people can rely on you for some of that type of nutrient your healing energy when I was in school so this job has fulfilled a lot of fat but it’s funny that you say about Sin all the different pant suits I remember when I started I was so worried thinking how am I going to think of a difference little scenario to spend for these guys every single time they call Will it quickly became apparent that I’d say about 90% of collars when they call they basically want the same call over again and I thought so many times for it to be so much easier if you just recorded it and replayed it because it’s almost like to know the letter to be exact sense of what they want you to say they there’s very few that actually seek a lot of variety in their fantasies most of them want to go through the exact same fantasy every single time so it’s like you can do those calls with those types of collars practically on autopilot because you know exactly what they want once you’ve done it a few times you know you have the script basically in your head and it’s funny the way that some of them just want the same thing over and over and over and I’ve had some clients for the whole 11 years and there’s still the same way it’s like every time they call they want to talk about the exact same thing so it’s kind of amusing to me honestly that there that predictable write it that I’ve had the same experience and I suppose if it’s something that doesn’t seem really self abusive or harmful then I’ll go along with it and and humor them and everything but I can’t I send it that’s them in some direction of of transcendence of of something if it’s really troubling to them a really sort of negative in some sense that but she also can’t be judgmental right so so you can you without holding anybody specifically or any specific can use talk about some of the general patterns beyond the obligatory small penis calls and maybe even talking about that it’s like what are some of these patterns that you’ve observed over that many years of what what what what’s going on inside of the mind of you lose man you know we don’t know how much, babe what what percentage of the population they really really really represent you know if statistically but but it’s great to be great to hear from you sound like what some of the the patterns are people can relate the lives of others definitely patterns that emerge once you talk to some of these people and totally different guys that have nothing to do with one another and they basically have the same fantasies the small penis humiliation calls it that’s one of my most popular calls that I get I get more of those practically than any other type of call and the pattern does quickly present itself you know this poor guy Mother Nature has shortchanged him there’s nothing he can do no matter how much money he’s willing to spend no matter what kind of surgeries he’s willing to endear there’s not really much that he can do he’s got a small dick and he’s always going to have a small deck and it is so ingrained in their minds that women are going to reject them make fun of them mock them other men are going to belittle them that I swear if these men had their greatest prayer answered and they woke up the next day with an 8 inch penis they wouldn’t know what the hell to do with it because it is so part of their psyche that they are small and inadequate to please a woman they wouldn’t know what to do with it they really wouldn’t they would be very uncomfortable there’s been several of these guys that I’ve said well why don’t you just go to an escort and they’re not going to reject you as long as you’ve got money they’re not going to reject you and they get so uncomfortable when I said that that they will do everything but a dance to get away from you know me saying that so I tried not even bother saying it anymore because it’s just falling on deaf ears they don’t really want to go to any woman that is going to accept them because that is foreign that is uncomfortable and that is unfamiliar and they don’t want it and if they did go to some escort that would take them no matter how small their dick is they would be probably as limp as a dish Rag and not able to do anything because they’re on foreign territory they’re only used two women laughing at them in or telling their girlfriends and making fun of them it’s it’s so so part of their nature now, but that’s all they’ve known their whole lives they don’t want anybody to accept them and and I said especially with a guy that’s just slightly undersized if he says I’m 5 in the North American average erect so I’m like well as small but it’s workable it’s not worth rejecting somebody over and they they don’t want to hear this they do not want to hear acceptance on any level they’re like oh no know if it’s under a tin they’re to be reasoned with they just want to be mocked and made fun of but that pattern very quickly comes out especially with those ones that group more than any other there’s there’s definite patterns guys into spanking fetishes were usually caught by mom masturbating and spank him with the punishment and even though mom may have been dead for the last 30 years they’re still beating off thinking of getting you know spanked when they were a kid for getting caught that pattern quickly came out to that that one’s very predictable if a guy has a spanking fetish the chances are he was spanked as punishment well yeah this is I would have to I would have to be honest and say I’m not a trained psychotherapist your psychoanalyst or anything but are you acting sad devil is an armchair philosopher at least of all things psychological and I think a lot of people into it the the earliest erotic experiences 10 to do the most hard wiring for the rest of your life and it’s very very interesting to see what that serve cocktail of experiences and things going on internally the chemistry and and how that sort of gels into something that creates that that template that people get stuck with running so they have you had the experience of actually seeing anyone find any well even anyone that has a desire to say hey I’ve got this recurring fantasy that I can’t break free of but I want to and can you help me kind of work through some material and gets to the point of sending me some people might say freedom from it or just having some something to even compare it to cuz if that’s all they know then they don’t even know the outside of that that Fishbowl could be my friend there was one color that comes to mind when you say that if somebody to have a fetish that they really did want to break free from he had actually gone to a psychiatrist he was so upset by it and he wanted to stop it but he couldn’t and the topic that I absolutely hate and I hate when guys ever call I usually just tell him to call somebody else he was an adult baby and these guys put diapers on and they they wet their pants and and go to the bathroom in the midst of disgusting and this guy was so upset that he enjoyed doing this he said I come home after work I put on my diaper I sit on the floor and I know I rub my cock and then I go to the bathroom in my diaper oh my God it’s just disgusting so he he was he was crying on the phone he was sober Afton upset about this and he’s like I’ve actually gone to a psychiatrist because I just don’t know what to do to stop and he’s like well the psychiatrist told me I’m not hurting anybody yes it may be kind of icky but at the end of the day I’m not hurting anybody nobody knows about it it’s not affecting anybody’s life so I’m just probably going to have to live with this attraction to this fetish and carry it out it will and I thought well the psychiatrist is right he’s not hurting anybody but it is pretty gross but I guess there’s worse things that people could be doing but I really don’t enjoy collars that wants to talk about God cuz I I have a strong X Factor about that topic but there’s people doing all kinds of weird and believe me you really don’t want to know what your coworkers are friends or neighbors or anybody is doing behind closed doors they tell me what they do behind closed doors and I’m horrified it at a lot of the stuff they tell me and nobody in their life knows about it they keep it a secret and I just get it’s amazing how they unload all this stuff and I can understand they can’t tell their wives because she kicked them out they can’t tell their friends because they would never be looked at the same so they and they wouldn’t have the nerve to tell a psychiatrist you know looking face-to-face with them these things so they find girls like me to share these desires with that they can’t tell anybody else and in a way to great honor that they are literally telling me their deepest darkest thoughts especially when there a personal client where I take their credit card information and I know their real name I know their address I know I know all this personal information so it’s even more flattering that they’re entrusting me with this deeply personal information and giving me all this trust you know what some company where they call and they can say their name is John Smith and you have no idea who they really are that is as Anonymous As It Gets I have no way of knowing when they’re calling a company like that but when it’s a direct dial type of call like I have on my own line and a couple of other lines that I work at you do have their real information and I always think you know you’re lucky I’m an honest person if you ever got some lady that decided to go Rogue and blackmail you you could be in for a whole lot of embarrassment at some of the things that they tell you but that one with the adult baby fetish he definitely really wanted to stop that but he just for whatever reason wasn’t able to stop but he just was addicted to it and some guys are addicted that is the word I would use to some of their fetishes and they know that it’s not healthy they know that is not say some of the activities that they’re engaging in and it’s like a drug they just can’t stop themselves when I think some of these guys are telling me the Craigslist personals was closed down a few years ago it was like the end of the world for a lot of the faithful to call me believe me because it was such a huge part of their sex life they would be going on these personal than having random sex with strangers and some guys say oh yeah I met this guy on the Craigslist personals and I met him in the back of his van and Home Depot parking lot good way to meet a serial killer the risks that some of these people are taking to satisfy their sexual desires if it’s honestly quite horrifying sometimes yeah I’m with you on that I would say one of the one of the creepiest scenario that I have to encounter so far in my career doing phone sex on the side is that this thing I didn’t even know it existed but he had the kind of invite me to it he had to basically prep me and you kind of give me the script ahead of time a verbally so that I would know what scenario he wanted to be kind of dropped into and in and it was the whole bug chasing thing of you heard of that already dealt with it and I mustn’t there with you on this Theodore baby thing I just want to get to 314 because Freud was all about that sexuality is actually anyting in the body that could be described as pleasurable in that begins with weather in anal repulsive or whatever that is so people just get attached to maybe don’t grow up acceptors all theories to about your whole personality being shaped by how long you’re bursting experience was whether he was a C-section or whether there was fecal matter that you were exposed to the process of blood that can determine so many things is really shaping everything that is there’s a it’s quite a bit by bit material but I honestly think that the way you’re describing is it’s like the entire Orthodox world of academic psychology and sociology if if they’re not getting PhD in this field basically studying what you’re talkin about then they have no clue because like you’re saying most people do not talk about this stuff in any other don’t then with their trusted phone sex are they all squeaky clean but I really liked on the niteflirt I remember once on the nightfort website they had kind of like a an intro little animated video clip and it’s just the kind of promote obviously the platform and kind of explain how it works what not but there was like an intro beginning to it where it showed a bus stop like a cartoon bus stop I’m just a couple of random dudes and whoever and MMA put out thought Bubbles and it was a little cartoon characters of the fantasy that they’re all thinking of separately at the bus stop and it was like all the quintessential Kink BDSM archetypes in leather and you know bondage and whatever else but it’s just like the idea that is really what’s going on if you see if we’re honest you know you could be in any crowding and everybody sort of having these thoughts for them yeah do you think that I guess you I’m curious how you would describe the sort of spectrum of you seems to be people who some people would say they don’t have anything other than vanilla you know really team like missionary romantic style pharmacies in made in that could be totally true but then there’s a whole group of people who are may be in denial or they’re fighting to suppress more homosexual or more violent or just whatever types of Tennessee’s and they may never experience it or talk about it or even like play with it much in their Fantasy Life interest people who are open and out and experiencing it in the Kink community and then there’s people who seem to be kind of release Kirsten stuck in their own world where their stuff is just running their lives and they can’t they don’t have really a healthy weight it to express that I’m just wondering if you were to just have to take a guess at the general population would save America are like helps what what ratio do you think if there is a people in different you can kind of take it however you like this what would be your if you were the Surgeon General of America and you had to be issued a report talking about the state of American fetishism and she is it we’re looking at him or you say well I don’t know about exact percentages and obviously it would be different for ladies than it is for men I do occasionally get a lady, but I get so few I can’t generalize with them as much as I can with the men because of the sheer lack of volume of women for me that I talk to but for men I would say I would say well over 70% have some kind of a you know a real king I do get ones that are just vanilla and they only want the most basic you know sex oral just very very vanilla and that’s fine I’m happy they’re very easy there’s nothing growth and talking to those guys but there’s ones that are so far off the map and I do not even cater to the more extreme ones I if if somebody’s wanting to talk about something really bad and I just don’t do it and tell him to find somebody else but some there’s definitely a lot that have a kink there is there really is and they just they can’t share it with anybody so over 70% of got some weird little fantasy and that I guess weirdness is subjective isn’t it I hear so much weirdness that may be what I would consider practically normal somebody that the civilian not in the adult industry would think oh my God that’s so weird I like her own doesn’t seem weird so I think we’re nothing normalness is all very subjective you can’t really say well the percentage of weird this percentage is kinky but there’s so many it it really surprises me how many guys that call that want to be with another guy that’s one of the top fantasy Sig I have the guys have as well as they want to talk or you don’t have a guy fuck something I’m I was shocked at that when I first started in the business that it was that widespread I mean it’s a very high percentage of collars and it’s also very high percentage of callers that are wearing ladies underwear and I never expected that I had no idea there were so many men that were wearing ladies panties under their clothes it seems pretty high from the number of guys to tell me that so those two things really stand out that are way more common than people would think yeah it’s it’s so it’s so sad in its to me and said that it’s the culture of the dominant culture so repressive it’s not just allowed to to be in body in your feminine aspect you’re coming inside in a more outspoken Republic Manor in and stole that idea that you have to hide it under your clothes and you can’t just be like hey we got Casual Friday what’s up family and Tuesday and see all kinds of measurable issues in society but you know it’s also makes me think about how the whole notion of the private citizen right to privacy and then the public officers and officials in in politicians and whatnot it’s expected that that well within reason everything that they’re all of their interest all of their past all of anything that can be dug up about their life history is fair game to scrutinize and I don’t know maybe and certainly in in more queer friendly districts like West Hollywood or the Castro I’m sure that it’s actually a selling point to your dear constituents to be a letter or something but for most of the rest of the country you would not be elected or you will be impeached her or else it is or whatever asked to resign if it were to come out that any of that any of the things you described in in in or just anything that would be considered an aberration from that vanilla whatever you would see anything beyond that would get you in deep trouble socially and politically and yet all those people who have that power they’re the ones going to the Doms and even some of the most twisted like yeah if people had any idea who exactly people would be surprised who was calling there was a chief of police that used to call me and I thought if your chief of police would you not buy a Visa gift card and just tell me your name is John Smith rather than give me your real name and your real credit card. That was the first thought in my head and he actually send me a picture of himself for his uniform and I thought are you insane do you realize the amount of embarrassment if I went rogue that I could cause you your whole Precinct to be laughing your ass off that one is one of the top ones that sticks in my mind thinking why would you be broadcasting and all I never would have known that you were you sending me pictures of yourself and you before that one really I thought was amazing it was another guy that was a district attorney in a major city and he was telling me this and I thought wow I could really cause you embarrassment if I wasn’t a trustworthy honest person and yet they’re telling you they’re real David at all this information I got all my God this is just wild it really was and there was even this very low-level celebrity oh my God I never heard of this guy but I looked up his name and I quickly found its website and mainly does direct-to-video stuff that most people wouldn’t know who it is anyway and what he wanted to talk about was so horrific that I wouldn’t do it and I don’t have a lot of limits are a lot of taboos but I have some and he was Way Beyond my limits and I thought wow buddy if your fans ever had any idea what you were into you know that they’d be with torches on your lawn I was so horrified at what this guy wanted to talk about and I thought in this is a celebrity and even though I had never heard of him somebody that had co-starred in a movie with him I certainly did know who it was cuz I watch her on a spa for all the time and I thought wow I’m sure she has no idea what her co-star is into and it just these these people to have any kind of level of being well-known and either their field of work or their Community you would think that protecting their anonymity would be of utmost importance but they really don’t seem to care so it says It’s amazing so I don’t follow Sports in anyway and he told me that he was he was wanting racial humiliation he was a black guy and I get a fair number of racial humiliation calls as well that’s one way specials it’s and he had found my website and saw that I offered this in and so he was telling me all about this so you know it was a small table wasn’t anything spectacular but I just thought wow you know if somebody follows Sports they would probably heard of this guy and here he’s calling and paying me good money to call him one racial slur after another it just says listen to me I can actually it really is so they aren’t worried about their identities or anything well yeah they make this public service announcement this is now the 21st century and there’s something called cryptocurrency and there’s ways to use VMware Anonymous step handrails and also to encrypt messages and I’m at the point now where I’m kind of going off of the Rails a bit branching out from the the platforms that take a huge cut of your earnings to provide that sort of thing at least that degree of separation with your identity and you’re just letting me within the last I’d say year 2 years has the encryption encrypted messaging app ecosystem really matured and made them user-friendly now is user-friendly enough and intuitive enough for people used on a mass scale and the Snowden Revelations have helped to accelerate the mass adoption and the development development impetus for peer-to-peer in Crypt open source technology platforms that are accessible by apps on a smartphone and then also now there’s so many different ways to do cryptocurrencies and now a stablecoin cryptocurrencies where you don’t expose people to the volatility of price fluctuation that’s a mouthful but I’m wondering if you have are you it’s apps to Tabitha like you say there’s a lot of risk and even if you did your best to not reach or allowed to be reached any of that data that you have some level of responsibility over as you conduct your business to know it’s an interesting opportunity now to to Really Leverage The Power of encrypted promises encrypting free speech of of words and of money that smell possible for people still just curious if you looked into any of that I know it’s kind of where I’m blinded I don’t even own the self to keep private insecure Issa does not use anything with high-tech and then you’ll be fine by myself I have my laptop and my corded landline so sore throat is this a cell phone because I don’t leave home that often so if I’m at the dentist or the hardware store for an hour or two I think I can afford to be out of touch with anybody for that short of a Time if it’s that important it can wait till I get back home and I’ll be able to talk to him then but I would never be doing calls out and about and I know some girls do I’ve read posts of girls doing in the aisles at Walmart and the grocery store it and I think how could you do that but hey if that’s how they want to run things that’s their business but I would not do that I wish I would not want to be doing that I was outside of my home and possibly have somebody over here me and you never know how long a collar is going to beat you. Weather is going to be 3 minutes or 3 hours you have no idea so it’s just not practical to me I would not do that so if somebody calls me I am on a corded landline in my house that’s the only place I’m ever going to be when they call but yeah all that Tech stuff is so it’s sort of a Escapes Me well if you ever have clients that want to you know I want to have you if you feel like a doll just put it out there to you I can be your your text liaison in a department is trying to be at least at least on the curb if not ahead of the curve but but certainly not is as up to speed as I can because yeah there’s a kind of feel like there’s a lot of a lot of people who are younger who mistakes with thumb how there really not having a good sense of host of keeping their identity and they’re just people are very frivolous about how much personal information they share in on internet was called it back POF plenty of wisdom and actually on that note not to go too far into the dark side but have you had any I’m sure you had some but you know what what what advice would you give note having the level experience you have about about real creepers or did you know that my make you feel let me before you have a chance with this type of mop cut them up or hang up on them if they were to get threatening or to just get weirder abusive or anything like you have any I don’t want to get all Sensational with horror stories but maybe more practical in a sense of Life what do you have a saltwater bath ready to jump into if you feel creeped out or do you have some sort of self-care and what’s the deal with the shift whether it’s creepy or not what’s a very lucky that I don’t really attract clients like that different girls attract different types of collars very much so it’s like Baskin-Robbins there’s a different flavor for everybody and I have never even come close to having any color that was stalkerish or interested in you don’t meeting or anyting I’m a very honest open direct person probably much more so would be good for I am so direct with clients if they ask me something and I’ll tell them the truth usually and other girls are more like they are there Persona they are never going to break that fourth wall to them and is a role they will never admit you know this isn’t them or whatever it says I’m just not like that and a lot of guys like that sense of reality others as sort of a bubble and they will never call you again because you’re too much reality they’re not looking for that they’re looking for Fantasy so I have never ever ever had anything remotely like that and yet I know some girls have had real problems with that very serious ones I mean the horse everyone’s and I think well maybe it’s because they’re playing this role and they’re insisting that they really are this character and it’s just all too real to the guy and I’m like oh you know that’s that’s not how it is consider more of a flooded reality so I don’t have that problem with my clients at all I’m glad to hear that that’s that’s music to my ears what would you say knowing the girls who have had that experience of living able to shake them off or what are some Clyde I honestly don’t know because they’re just running their business totally different than I am so unless they decided to move to my business model they’re going to keep having this problem I mean some of these girls will say oh I’ve got this whole back story that my character lives in such and such a place and she’s such and such an age and you know she went to this school and and she did this and that and I’m like really you go to all this trouble I might I’m just me if a guy calls I’m just me I’m not putting on any stories I say I live in Ontario Canada which is true I don’t tell them the town that I live in cuz they don’t really need to know that but I’m not making up some story about what I did or what I didn’t that that’s just not me it’s just not and yet there’s a lot of girls that they write this whole back story this like a totally separate character and if that’s how they want to do it that’s fine and I know a lot of them do that’s what they feel comfortable with they don’t want to give any real information that’s fine and I don’t give much to the ones that I do but I’m just me no matter what guy calls them if a guy says I won’t Lobby been in a gangbang recently haven’t you wanted to be not going to get what he wants because I’m too based in reality like I said some guys like that some guys don’t you want to talk about any anything you want to close with would be great or just call it a good a good first episode look forward to connecting my phone sex site is erotic Talk phone sex. Com and my erotic audio site if you want to order a custom audio is erotic audio recordings. Com some people can easily be able to contact me there if they’re interested in setting up a call well if the button says available love usually available if it says that I usually remember to set that right you can just call the number if you wanted to do a call and if you wanted to order an audio guys will email me usually with their script to get an estimate which I can do from the word count I can give them a very close estimate as to how long it will be in the price and then we go from there all right I love that will custom audio clips Galore sounds like you you’re really got this workout and it sounds like you graduated from the dependence and Reliance on 3rd party platforms and you’ve got it all sorted in house is that right on your website or how does that are you part of a network or is it all kind of have my own sci-fi I am available on many many sites that I do calls on but I only I only promote my own site because it is of or benefit to me easily if a guy comes to my own site so even though the price a guy May pay would be the same say $2 a minute which is pretty standard if he calls me through some site I might only be getting a third of that if he calls my sight I’m getting ate almost every penny of that so where do you think I’m going to direct people of course I’m I don’t even tell them what Play Time on or what names I go by or anything I only ever tell them Sheeran on a rush and that is the only place that you will find Sharon Sharon all right all right are you ready to go find her on the on that website and appreciate you again it’s been a time to be on the shoulder and a lot and look forward to next time I see you again so much and thank you so much for having me www.sprint.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition assassini and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple viper bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email ben.com namaste

Wisdom for Practicing Ethical Magic with Michael Bonner TPP186

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In this episode I’m joined by my new dear friend Mike Bonner for a discussion about ethical magic, sex magic, consciousness, love, fantasy, romance, pansexuality, and much more.

 

He does a beautiful job laying out both fundamental and advanced concepts for navigating the color spectrum of magic. He also provides very practical down to earth skill sets and tools for keeping your magical practice on a healthy course.

 

This episode I know will stand as a perennial resource of wisdom to help up and coming seekers avoid the many pitfalls that result from unchecked egoic tendencies in all areas of life. This is a true gift of heart purification!

 

About Mike:
His super power is to help others discover their own personal power and awareness and claim it, through magick, psychology, nature, tantra, and self exploration. Bonner has been studying and practicing magick, tantra, and psychology for over 15 years.

 

 With the help and teachings of shamans, spiritual guides, gods & goddesses, psychologists, therapists, unbridled and fearless self exploration and pure beings in his life, to empower his journey of discovery for himself and others.

 

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 186 I am doing an episode with a new dear friend of mine Mike Bonner who I’ve connected with my social media and is he’s been a listener and fan of the show and we have so much in common I was a long time coming to get this podcast done and we will be many more forthcoming I’m sure you will fall deeply madly in love with all of his wisdom and insights and really enjoy the subject matter which is really foundational to averting catastrophe and and and staying on course for a really beautiful magical manifestation of all kinds so yes again I hope you enjoy and namaste find and reach their own personal strength and power and to be better solves I did a lot of self-discovery over the years it just slipped through a lot of different different I guess variables you can say like through magic to Tantra through I just communicating with people also just kind of going back to my younger years just kind of you know I know that you come from a Punky background and I was in that as well with some coffee stuff and all this kind of such my grandmother had a son used to do this all the time when I was kid so I watched them to all these things and it was really intriguing and I knew that they were actually doing something because I actually didn’t really know what they were doing it’s like seven or eight years old that I care I don’t I don’t mess with anything dark like that I practice a lot of Earth Magic and Sex Magic white magic things like that just trying to use all that energy that I get to build in there and get to like thrusting into creativity that goes into music or I also do hair I do have a barber and a hairdresser and so a lot of it comes out that way and that was also a way that I discovered I guess kind of what I can do for people on they told me that I helped them a lot and I did I I didn’t realize what I was doing at the time when I was working on my client says as a new Barber and hairdresser I just was a very curious person and I wanted to basically just kind of find out everything about the person that I could not in a creepy way either I just felt that the interaction was so personally it’s a vicious open up to you so I I I tried to listen even even even now I’d like to try to listen as best as I can to what people are actually saying whether it be through their words or their body language cuz I believe both are and I think they’re both equally as important I think we’ve all been sitting in front of somebody when they’ve been saying something on their words you know are coming out but their bodies actually saying something else not just desire to me is a real test connection I think within that person solves so I started noticing that another people then I started asking myself is you know I was doing these things too and so I just started to really look into that and also what people were telling me about you know I could see them and work on conversations go away for a month or two or whatever it was and they live out you know this thing that we talked about her and that’s when people say thank you so much I guess I never really thought about it until that point and that’s kind of as a young adult I’d say about 19 or 20 so I started looking more into the different types of Magic the different types of Tantra which I didn’t realize I was already doing all so you know people have this really funny way of how they think about Tantra the nights I think a conversation for another time cuz that’s a whole other topic I guess that’s that’s really my intro all that all sounds very good to me thank you for sharing that apologies for some of the background noise right now but I know are so we talked about it before one of the reasons why I wanted to say hey we should talk about this around feel like something has been missing as far as really laying a solid foundation for what different best practices of ethical magic really are and what some of the the the core principles that people may may be overlooking and just anybody who is sophisticated it has a long-standing practice study and expiration going to various traditions and they’re all that always intrigued me so I love to hear you help us understand some of the 101 aspects of what it means to even embarked on the path of empowering yourself to feel that you’ve been you could achieve magical powers to help with whatever comes to mind if you call yourself different terminology for magic and basically I people can call themselves whatever they like forgot my my what I believe are the real foundations of magic is accountability and responsibility I think those are two very very very strong pieces of the foundation that also translate into into life. I think but when you’re actually practicing magic you know if you’re going to set out to do some kind of ritual or spell whether it’s something that you want to do of your own making and will or you know of something that’s that’s been around for a while or whatever is the intention you have to have to State your intentions first and foremost it’s one of them what’s important things to do even before creating a Sacred Space in a circle for yourself on I like to start there it can take 10 seconds or I can take 10 minutes or longer it is whatever you want whatever your intention or your intentions are super super clear and just try to be really specific and remember that accountability and responsibility the second thing I think you have to do always right after Arby’s just asked for protection whatever it is you like to call upon whether it’s God or gods or goddesses or deities or you have specific helpers that you like to use Envision yourself in some way than protecting you or something of what I what I like to do is basically I I I surround myself in the circle of these big Rose Bush’s basically with these big thorns and these really really sturdy branches and he’s really beautiful roses and everything from the outside can almost see him that’s that’s what I do and I think that’s really really really really have to start so set your intention ask for your protection and pretty much from there on you can start so you can create trade environment I would say either that’s what I like to do if I have the time on the fit something big that you want to put a lot into whether it’s something that you’re manifesting or or celebrating or whatever it is that you’re doing you’re looking for some answers you know what whatever that is you like also candles or Pinot pillows and blankets or whatever is going to make you comfortable to make you feel is going to be I really actually love to to listen to dancing dance select Lisa Gerrard, magic and you said is my soundtrack goldfrapp for me is another one and she’s an insanely powerful witch and and gives us spells and rituals in front of our faces visually and and threw her words and people don’t even realize it so I’d that’s kind of what I like to do when I have the time to spend on relief. Like I said I know you’ve talked a lot about how important it is to open up chakras and it is really important to do that through the kind of ducks are doing a breathing and end this is really really really opening every single cell and poor and hair and everything in this body that work together because we’re meant to experience a lot of different things and then people are are afraid they’re afraid of everything and it’s it’s actually quite a shame that so many people lives in fear of of change of fear of themselves exterior of identity which I think there is a huge lack of these days you know what social media being so so big and what it is you know I know it’s obvious to state that you know it’s a Time suck her and it’s you know all it does is it really makes people feel bad about themselves and in technology you know we’re more connected today than we ever were and we’re also super disconnected. Only with ourselves but with everything else around us you know I really believe I really do believe that there are three types of people and I think I’ve I’ve talked to you about this before been in the world there’s they’re really honestly I’ve tried to break this down to the most simple simplest form and inform me like I said the three types I think that are out there are aware people people like us people who are trying to be better through our mind body and spirit helping ourselves helping each other helping the environment helping everything Universe all that kind of stuff you know we have to be aware of the soldiers I don’t know how else to tend to say that and then we have the masses who are basically just these zombies these are the people you know that are walking off cliffs to get a picture of walking into the streets and they’re just you know they’re consuming and they’re they’re literally eating each other’s faces while we are standing right in front of them and they have no real awareness that there are doing this they’re just sort of this spoon-fed weird overgrown lump is of sorts in now and I don’t know if there are any if there if there’s any help for that. The masses you know which I like to call the zombies and then let’s just let’s go for the 3rd I believe that the other ones are vampires vampires and those are the parasites up there those are the people that just really latch on I mean it is what it is it’s a vampire is Parasite you know we’ve all come across the state if they want to suck you in and they they need to suck you into all that they created the but are you know I just I basically don’t really pay a lot of attention to that eventually they just get bored and move on so that’s kind of how I died deal with that I guess since we’re talking about three years cuz three such powerful number another another thing that I really believes and is that we have three different brains and I know we talked about this before I made you laugh about this but I do believe that we have three different brains one is our head which is the the Periscope with the feeding tube attached to it if you remember correctly. I just we can go on and on about it you know for all of our logic blocks us from a lot of things and it it also thinks that that it tells us reason but what it does is it ends up talking us out of some really good things also and then we have the second brain which I believe is your heart that’s pretty pretty simple that’s where all the emotions come from that’s that’s where all the pier emotions come from it’s it’s it’s whatever you’re doing whenever you get those feelings of of just being so incredibly insurance so happy and and it’s almost childlike you know these childlike feelings of swords and then I want to move on to the third Friday which is your guts and that’s responsible for all the the intuition that most people just choose to ignore that were frankly I think they just don’t hear it sometimes or maybe most of the time I also think that’s where are most Primal South comes from and I try to use those three brains separately to identify different I guess emotions that come from something situations that happened you know I think you have to be pretty clear about where that is coming from to be able to physically pinpoint if it’s if it’s if it’s all in motion if it’s something that I was trying to tell us they’re just not aware of and I like to when I get to talk to people when they’re sitting in my chair or if I’m having a coffee with some water or whatever I mean I’ve I’ve had some great conversations with people just sitting waiting to get my car washed you know all these little connections I I believe in synchronicity also I think synchronicity is is is a real thing and it’s a huge thing and I think that also coincides goes along with magic you know magic is a a change of consciousness within yourself and also be able being able to to change the rib that Consciousness around you it all kind of goes back and points to the same kind of thing you know when when we’re in tune we not only are better people for everything around us but specifically for other people and I think that’s really important and you know cuz the world that we live in right now is just like I said earlier so full of fear and and come and paranoia and I think that everybody just needs to kind of take a step back and really be accountable and be responsible for yourself in hey we’re not be a little responsible for other people to sometimes I don’t think it’s such a bad thing is to also from previous especially bad is part of the ocean that I have kicked her out for a while I really am not going to stay the name of this this fellow but I will say that I was interested in studying a a very accomplished black time trick magician who has very interesting thesis about the difference between white magic and black magic and into to paraphrase what one of the things he said it was basically that you can if you were if you were to truly be a projectile practitioner white magic then you would not attempt to influence the outcome really evenie evenie life of that because that would be so presumptuous to assume that you have the almighty waste God and therefore Could Do no harm and everything you do is going to be perfectly each of the life but more but more realistic see that that’s that’s wishful thinking is my any more realistically it’s it’s it’s a safer intellectual place to own that if you were trying to make any adjustments on the outcomes of anyone’s life your own & Beyond then actually physically a black magician because you are defying the the natural order of things and it’s all semantics my grandmother they were really trying to influence and actually make these things happen good most of the time it was not good and they did and they did it you know I’m with white magic and and and Earth Magic and sex Magik I I don’t I mean I guess influence I guess is the word we can use for now you’re sort of just taking all of this energy bill topping in one way or another if you know however you felt it up and then being able to use that into I don’t know if I don’t know if I would say influence I would say uh manifestation really some people call it prayer some people call it meditation whatever you want to call it I just feel I don’t know I feel like with with those types of magic in the lighter stuff you’re more of asking verses asking and kind of directing your you’re not you’re not really pushing for this this this intense outcome so to speak I mean there’s a there isn’t there definitely has been crazy intense outcomes with different things that I’ve done before but for me I can only speak personally I out of my experience those who have come out of liver a surprise when they did and then I ended up feeling things are experiencing things I’ve never done before I knew that I hit these other levels out of magic so I guess I don’t have never heard I’ve never I’ve never heard that argument but I do understand what what he’s saying by that answer or might my response to that make any sense I think we’re really getting somewhere because you know the simple I guess the shore most likely people who think they’re doing only white magic are doing great magic and people who think they’re only doing Blackmagic are also do it yeah I know I get I totally did I just have never heard it put that way I can only speak from my experience at all I think that’s where the influencing comes comes in the play is that I’ve noticed and gray like you said or black it is it’s usually a demand for something whether that’s a strong demand or a light one or or whatever it does that make sense what you just said right there is so pivotal because if you like I would love to have to be instrumental in in training a new the Next Generation magicians who who who understand you are not understanding of what the parameters of black magic are to eat I don’t want to do it or I don’t do it and do it for someone to trust that you really don’t do is like how do you define it so you know that intuition brain the gut-brain you know something doesn’t feel right doing something that you maybe you’re questioning to a point you know you that much then I would say stop I mean the same thing goes for like when you’re learning a haircut. funny things when it comes to Magic but also it’s that intention and I mean all four of those to me are before you do anything and I guess you know kind of going back to the house he was in a sort of saying that the white magicians are black and black or white and you know all of this is your job to be to be really responsible in in what you’re doing and what you’re asking and what your intentions are I mean it literally all just goes and points back to the same thing when I look at it you know I’m always very very very careful and I’ve been practicing the stuff for sale like I was really honing in on some stuff and then I ended up being a moving to the desert like I do know we talked before the last couple years and not that really propelled me into a whole other level of magic that I’ve never even knew I was capable of and that’s that’s what sort of solidified the the power that I have is things like I said to help other mothers finders in to claim it and and share my practices and what’s helped me put my mind at ease and not not in not just my mind or my brains and all three of them but but my my soul and everything else has is well you know I I’ve always believed this I believe that people really really really have to Value themselves and I mean really value themselves cuz it’s a direct reflection of how you interact with everything around you not just the other people but Adam Wilson you know that our sins and everything and I feel like a lot of people don’t value themselves these days for whatever reason it is and then like I said where you can sell you endless consuming society and in the end it didn’t they just bursting at the seams with human child basically it’s their eyes and ears are being consumed by you know the Kardashians and the news and the biscuits and you know just all this crazy shit instead of putting other things in in there you know turn the TV off so you can have the internet than the TV bundle in the whole deal I always tell them you know that’s a lot but I am one of those weirdos and every single time I got the same response it’s what do you do what do you do with yourself I don’t understand what you do explain to them exactly what I did or whatever I’m not going to I’m not going to tell the poor girl at Time Warner one network to the other all right where we exactly where when you realize that when you got cut off but if I could bring us back to where to elaborate on and I was going to say the one I love about how you framed the distinction between the white and black magic Continuum is really about what the ad if I’m understanding correctly and I’ll kind of rephrase this is like the step-by-step would be the intention and then the call the intention is to do no harm and to do good or to do well or to heal or to manifest positivity or something of us open generate so positivity as he has the intention and then instead of instead of imposing your your sort of self-promoting self-aggrandizing or somehow that comes from what are you but I believe in a lot of that comes from Eco you know about asking and asking and away and also just trying to coddle it enter to she also harness it at the same time you know there’s a gentleness to it and also the black magic in the darker Arts I find it very demanding when they’re asking its atom and it’s a hey. I feel like a lot of it just comes from the ego you know it isn’t that is what I think is like I’m going to make this happen this is going to happen because I say I’m a powerfuel I I’m this powerful I’m blah blah blah you know when I when I come to my own personal power I let it speak to me I know that sounds corny and whatever but I do you know I left I let it talk to me I mean the other day I was brushing my teeth in the bathroom and I had a really really funny experience on the window is directly behind me and it looks up into these really beautiful trees and I was just brushing my teeth tonight I got whatever it was I didn’t really pay any trees with the branches coming up looks like basically he’s like Kevin Lee really amazing earth Spirits they just look like these pillars with these what their hands up into the air in the sun was coming through for me to be able to recognize that as I’m just one daily brushing my teeth and you know doing whatever to see something like that I think it’s really Spectacular Now and Then that led needs some thinking and then I’d like to writing and then that actually led to sort of I guess you’d call it a vegetable that I said last night I didn’t even really plan on doing on from just brushing my teeth looking up and being just being open and aware enough to accept things like this when when the earth is giving you something when a person or another being I don’t feel like there are coincidences with the black it’s like these definitive I guess like miles to basically justify and validate that your accessory is working does that make sense other assorted from distinction I’m thinking trying to access my normally very inefficient left brain I’m trying to figure out almost mathematical or algorithmic type of thinking to this mechanical or robotic but I think the juxtaposition of the news actually really quite wonderful I feel like magic can be an if-then type algorithm where you basically about what is an if-then a recipe is an algorithm in the algorithm is the recipe so there you have it so it’s the thing of it that way I’d say where we are on this graph for this this these branches that are coming out from a tree or a sort of thought bubble you know this series of steps and process uses that the the intention now I’m kind of seeing how the way to it’s not like it gets completely Amorphis because the intention could be to raise a million dollars for charity which which has elements of it that are are very parameterize do you know you have the not be a dollar amount you have the the sort of limiting factor that it be for a nonprofit organization for some charitable cause that you would hope will be auctioned charity than it would have some wedding on what its value is what is what is a specific charity and what do they do for people that Community whatever it is you know animals once again to that in ten and then your accountability and responsibility to that attention to that make sense so the intention let’s say if it was to save the polar bears you would focus on the help and try calling on not just got all that stuff you know put the energy out there throwing out a million tentacles at one time you’re not quite a fishing that but like you’re trying to zap and you’re trying to get an end open these channels up and try to reach other people I’m in spine that. Sort of tap into their goodness as well you know and end end it’s all I can kind of see what the intention is to save the polar bears do to do all the stuff of course you know you want to be able to hit this goals and that is obviously important but I think that the weight of it needs to go back to what the what the reason and why why you’re you’re why you’re doing this why you feel so strongly about it to me that’s more to me that’s more important you know cuz when it’s with all of that projection and all of that even when you’re when you’re putting that out there too I just I feel like it’s it’s just better all the way around energetically speaking we have it well yeah because you could ask for billing and maybe it cost you a hundred million and if you would have just said get the job done you would have been really really really specific cuz I have been many times when I’m sure it’s going to happen again because I really focused on the on X y&z now I know I was really really really sure let’s go forward a little bit and woe holyshit all this stuff wow okay this is this is incredible you know I’m just asking you know asking for things and not being afraid to ask so I got all these two I got all the pieces but I didn’t quite get them in the order I wanted them in right is that make you know what I mean weather at make the Joker’s like you had your prayers are answered but it’s distributed you know they are dropped but they’re broken in two packages across time and space you have to like hang on to that key that you found in the gutter for like 5 years in that door that you can’t open that you thought you should be able to the keys in your pocket it and then reveal their working towards towards something good it was in a different order or it was just not quite like I said I thought I was even more than I had to go back and look at my writing it look at and that’s my accountability in my responsibility to myself and University anyway I know I mean I know it’s a little tiny things but things has lasers with the order of the universe and that’s why I say you know I will always go back to accountability responsibility and intention and that has actually helped me with those actually put those into everyday use all the time in my life and it and it really really does Century because I’m always stand under them sesef creepy way but you know I just I want to be accountable for my actions for the things that come out of my mouth which is why I choose my words you know in my tone and my delivery very carefully you know I want to be responsible not just to myself but but two other people of the earth you know animals everything I want to be responsible to the magic I want to be responsible to people are saying that that I you know she’ll balance somewhere I don’t I don’t I never considered myself you know I just have to kind of go you hear it enough times from people you got to start looking into it you know and I’ve always been really humble about not just like my hair dressing as well and it’s cool to have been able to the Catalyst that field my inch extend a check and intent ra and yoga and just self-exploration with my mind body and spirit you know and it’s cool like I said what such an intimate exchange that I’m having with my clients in my relationships whether it’s been you know 6 months or 20 years I’ve been doing this 23 years and I literally get to practice my magic everyday all day not just when I’m at work it seems to be more concentrated when I’m at work because obviously you know that I protect myself every single day at work at 10 in the morning I’m up at like 5 or 6 I can’t just get up and go like I need to have a really slow the morning and and just spend some time with myself 3 years ago and she’s like I know it’s going to sound stupid but really she was telling me that I did a really good job and I was able to just walk away from it and not be angry and not be anything and you know if anything I felt that stunted and at their age they’re never going to really have the chance to kind of play another way and I think that it was because they didn’t want to be another way but but what I was saying was she wanted me to be aware of it and I was but I didn’t I didn’t see it through her eyes and never get to see each other selves exactly how other people see us and we never will you know and so she said you know you need to look at yourself in the mirror tonight for 30 seconds straight in the eyes and tell yourself thank you you’re a badass and you should have really fucking good job. Cutting salon or if I you know help somebody out that day or whatever I got a phone call from a client with her friends you know after we talk after we took whatever and they are thinking I have to be really humble you know I’m not passing out and I’m not handing out like free I don’t want I don’t like unsolicited advice you know it’s so one of the first things I do ask people not just with my work and I could be the hairdressing barbering star that could be counseling or are you know just just helping people with magic just keep it really clear it really really really really clear about what your intentions are. Yeah that really setting in and like I said not in a weird obsessive way but they put it really does make you rethink your reactions or even you know have not having a reaction to something is a reaction and I think a lot of us need to practice on a lot more you know not a not having a reaction to something even even possible yeah yeah and don’t keep it on Harrison into some fire you know I mean I try to walk that person away from the fire cuz I don’t know I just I think I truly believe that everybody deserves to be happy it starts with ourselves that it actually it’s that needing that wants to become a better man for myself or and it flows out if you and is infectious you know toddlers but I really do believe it has to be that first and foremost thing you said it’s important to note that says in this some kind of an outline here it is said your ability to stay accountable really if we if we look zoom into that word we’re talking about accounting it brings to mind the notion of a ledger and unassertive bookkeeping and so the bookkeeping is your book of spells so if you if you crave cast that magic spell and you do you set your intention and then you you see that it might be going walk or something but you have the ability to go back to that date and you do it on a spicious days of the calendar so that you can know where to where to go back to it are you confusing software you can search for it but to be able to if you if you just you just verbalize it you may not remember which I constantly have so many different books and actually you know I have one that’s kind of a general one that I’m constantly have about three or four that I’m kind of working at one time always you know one of them is for my partner and I specifically for both of us you know one of them is kind of a general one one is from me and my interactions with yellow lines notebook pads you know like the legal ones and so I just write down a lot of stuff I’m not a writer I just I just ride a lot of things down your bullet point things to make things all kinds of stuff you know you you can you already know or you trying to collect what that smell is what that ritual is what you’re trying to do put it all down and then once once you actually do everything you can either form at it before you know if you want a bullet point the different steps that you want to do like I say if you’re doing a spell the ritual that you created for yourself I think that’s completely fine you want to give things objects meanings you want to you know do it do I’m all for that you know I don’t care what it is you use I like to use a combination of different things that I’ve collected throughout the years symbolize different stuff for me and also I like to use a lot of different crystals in a lot of different God where we going with this I’m so sorry Vizio creating your own ritual is what I was saying there we go and just put a little bit of the power of writing it down so you can go back and check on it and might get the answer you could actually addressed it you know you could be right in a mandarin constitutional freedoms and yeah right down all the stuff cuz I actually do have a cooking diary that I do cuz I like to call so and so I take notes of every single thing that I do and it’s also just really good to go back and review or you know even just to kind of go back and read these books and see you know it’s a really interesting way to tell my own story to myself you know no one really gets to look at these except you know every now and then my I’ll show my boyfriend are you know maybe I’ll show up page or something or two or you know whatever it is I share a lot with him the one that I have I’m supposed to mean I was just really cool Connection in the synchronicities that we have together having said that I’ll come right down and write down your rituals in your spells you know if you eat your your journey as a magician really I mean we do this weekend with our card since you know so it’s basically keeping sort of your own it’s kind of like a journal in a report card and a bunch of other things all thrown in together you know and then again I think it’s just an interesting way of contacting some books that are like 15 years old has moved back to the city of December to write thank you notes bass like it’s all me I can all you know I can see and I can feel that it’s all me but just to watch the evolution of but just the awareness and the openness because I really really really might my 30s for me were about being really open and I thought I was open and I wasn’t certain ways but I was so closed off and scared and invulnerable most mostly on a sort of an emotional level would certain Dynamics and I just was like fuck it you know this I really really really want to know what this is like I want to know what that’s like I want to know what it’s like to really still open and so I had to learn that the process of letting go look at myself as a work in progress as we all are letting letting go was like one of my biggest lessons in keeping things simple Letting Go being present I’m old I don’t take anything personally and I used to take as I was a fucking crazy ass young double Scorpio and pass shit and I I just would be exhausted and I didn’t have time for myself so I had that was another thing that actually made me focus on myself and go okay this is going back to I have to be able to take to help myself and I can’t I can’t complete all of my energy and all of everything that I have two other people all the time you know if there’s a limit there’s a limit that I can get especially like in a work setting are in a social setting is for a social and I am actually quite an introvert I really prefer just like mellow chill kind of stuff you know I was going to say just one that I would like everyone to try to practice is to just really not take anything really personally because ultimately you know I am the only person who’s responsible for my own feelings whatever they are it is a matter of somebody says something to you that’s true or not or whatever it is I get to choose how I feel about everything absolutely that’s one of the Four Agreements Don Miguel Ruiz Four Agreements don’t take things to do your best dentist that take things personally and celebration I have for you so I think this was a good intro and I think too kind of I’d like to just give you one more sort of topic to explore for now and then we can leave it also is a bit of a cliffhanger we can come back I think there’s a lot of stuff more to unpack future episodes so I think that would be good to just have to have this be the very beginning intro kind of introduction to to your pear diamond and I appreciate this is a gold mine this is that I feel like you’re this is such a like I found the end of the rainbow here this is this treasure all about is is beyond I don’t even have words for it I mean I listen to your podcast for a really long time you know any what you know and then we ended up messaging somewhere along the line and I’m just saying is that I’m very thankful that I got to connect with you just just even sending you a note that one time or whatever it’s just all these things that we’ve had I’ve always enjoyed them seriously thank you I mean I know and I can I listen to your show and I know the time of people that you have on all the time for me to be part of this I mean even just one time is is really cool for me to be able to share this stuff with you with you and and everyone who listens to you so I just want to say thanks again I’m super super green food you’re welcome and thank you and if they have mutual honor him and blessing and I would say yeah the thing that’s on my mind for you know something soon to refund a bit now before we close for this this first episode we something that is the sort of throws a monkey wrench into the the very elegant logic that we have worked together here to kind of layout in Spanish of the sizes is what I would I have explored is is sort of the how to be accountable and responsible and ethical with the desire to pursue or seduce someone in the how that well you were sexually stimulating yourself and fantasizing about a sexual outcome with a potential partner that there is like for me I have a sort of framework work checklist where where I do want to have some clear intention in and released released that monitor my vibration around the energy and certainly of the conduct my own conduct in the Fantasy Realm because it is I believe a a a karmic casino to be fantasizing sexually and so you got to be with what are your thoughts on that can be it’s murky territory when we look at what’s the difference between it all that well the grace World of Magic here so we have please take away about what the intention as you know see if you see incredible person whether that be attached that’s that’s usually the person you want to buy what is the most important question is he this and it hit me the right way whatever it is you know like I said that’s really really ask yourself why practice is a bunch a lot of different things are where they are on a spiritual level you know versus someone who isn’t that all I mean to did you did you have liked it with your question were you thinking more about someone who is more open and spiritually aware or in touch with you know themselves and everything around them or are you speaking of just sort of like more social let me have I guess I’ll share with you a little bit of a little bit of intimate details about how I solely what year is this to me I feel like this I very very rarely use pornography of any kind as the visual aid or stimulant for myself because you know when I was a lot younger and a lot hornier and a lot less sophisticated spiritually I would say if I dare say then he was just fodder but the thing is what I and I was also jaculating constantly without any so and that was because of the Paradigm that that I was them at that that area of acid images of human consciousness in the West the surface ship that we’ve talked about before it right so that said to me that what I like what I know now if I would have known then what I know now I would have said to myself to have a practice more like what I have now wishes to Safeway when I fantasize about a future sexual encounter it really has got to actually in my mind be a very plausible realistic potential outcome with someone who is it is accessible by some believe with me and so I’m not really jerking off to dead people and I only brought enough to movie stars and people who unless I really really believe that what I want to do is structure my destiny to encounter them and have us have a mutual Very sensual erotic Mutual exchange I don’t really waste my Prada I don’t waste my see that as my Jing I’m not going to spill my seed in where to put a spell that has really no it’s not really a meritorious or whatever the word will be it doesn’t really it’s not part of my destiny so and this is just me kind of putting my thoughts into the into the original question for Texas is that I feel like the I would either they’re up there are people there are always a list of people who I’m attracted to in my life who are in weed ovarian degrees of proximity to me and in Space the time I suppose but maybe hey sup maybe some of them are are in committed monogamous relationships and therefore I’m also risking the the karmic consequences of of like astral home-wrecking by have a responsibility in that situation is just about being responsible on a sexual and a spiritual and in a personal level and in on a friendship level if that’s where it is too you know I mean I I’ve had experiences with other with other people before and even if it’s going to be a one-time thing from for me or for us or for whatever it is I’m very clear with one wants if that makes sense I don’t just let somebody why don’t open the door. Not physically but you know what I mean just open open the door and let them walk in and when wander around you know I’d I’d like to say okay look you know I am and I’m really really Frank here I have told you guys before it’s like look you know in my mind I’m going okay I know this is probably be like a one-time thing doesn’t happen all that often or it happened all that often but I would say with hey look I’m not looking for pornsex I’m not looking to get off like I want to actually have sex with an nnn if you don’t know what that means you know really that I can cut if you’re willing if you’re willing I can kind of show you a different way of going out this an interesting really super clear that’s where that double fucking Scorpio comes in you know I just I can’t lie and I’m very very very direct and I will say that in my experience I have it’s been it’s been really fine with that and sometimes it’s been really great or like let’s say you know you end up meeting somebody and there’s a connection there’s a little bit of a friendship and then it goes there sexually and then you realize that’s okay I don’t want to be in a committed thing with you or I’m not you know any in a space where I could be in a relationship whether you want to or not that’s just you know what it is to be able to be emotionally irresponsible not to yourself and accountability to the other person as well and yourself I want to have a really good hopefully intense on whatever level sexual experience with somebody that’s problem with most men is that most people I would say in general but they’re just so used to getting off by using corn by using this by using whatever and I just I feel like it when you get it really really really in tune with yourself you’re going back to say it with what you were saying like I just don’t want to spill my seed and then wasted I I feel the same way but at the same time like there have been several times were the sex that I have with my boyfriend my actual partner is incredible and it just keeps getting better and better and better and sometimes I mean we don’t set out for this but like it will end up coming like six times over you know some hours or whatever it is and it’s like holyfuck like Jesus Christ and then you know it’s almost like that sort of Monex states where you just had sex had nowhere you everything just is talking to you the leaves it wasn’t just getting off you guys were able to connect on levels where you really took each other separately and together to other places I mean this I have had some experience with this man his name is Johnny Ray he’s he’s really seriously the best person I’ve ever been with I’ve never been with anybody like him he has experience in the matter with him have been just utterly mind-blowingly shocking in a really good way swear he’s actually aided me in seeing certain things while doing sex magick and while doing some other stuff like that I’d like that I actually saw even though my eyes were closed I saw these things I went places you know really interesting and I took a long time to kind of develop but like I I I don’t know I I find again I just think that like you don’t you just say you have to really be responsible but it do whatever is right for you is what I’m saying like I said if if you’re if you’re in a situation where if it feels right that that you’re going to come again then go for it you know if you can try that you don’t try to do all that cuz that’s because it makes the experience more intense and there’s so much more than just like I said then getting off you know another program to do and and there are a lot of times to ejaculate at all and still have an equally razee go to experience you know a lot of full body in touch with your actual magic right there you know well I think on that note I don’t think we could end on a better a better note in a better place to conclude I think that really is a great a great introduction and this is this smoking hot material and I can’t wait to to keep exploring I’m more of this and zooming into various aspects so for now we’ll see it are there any specific ways that you would like listen this to reach out to you how can I go get a nice haircut it’s the same it’s Mike Bonner hair so m i k e b o n n e r and then hair hair at gmail.com on Instagram I do tarot readings to I don’t claim the psychic I’m not really really really try to connect with people on listen to them that’s what I try to do this first and foremost well I got to say it has been an absolute treat and Prejudice is like such a bicycle synchronistic to be able to just have this Pockets out there than have it find people and then and then all the sudden we’re we’re already talking when you’re adding a lot to to this this archive this is sort of the akashic record that I’m not curious to hear so thank you so much again and I look forward to next time I will yeah everybody have sweet and sweet dreams and a good prayers and magic spells and we will help keep each other accountable and responsible and also remember that intention with everything just intense so important did all right all right I will take you with you Google talk to you so I would actually like to share and I now just thinking of it I have an example of a personal and almost perfect example of a white magick manifestation which will then I’ll create a ritual around this that’ll be done free for a year basically starts in November that’s the the month I was born and so for me not on the same calendar as everybody else when they do their resolutions and all that kind of stuff you know in January I mean frankly it just doesn’t mean anything to me November my birth my own personal earlier anyhow having said that I have been working on just trying to manifest and think about him focused a lot of energy on what I want out of this coming year and sometimes it happens before November sometimes it happens during and and this time it took a couple months and so anyhow I woke up yesterday morning and the first thing on my mind was what I heard was this is just the beginning and I have I just move back to LA from being out in the deserts the high desert in Southern California for the last two years I needed a break from everything the city in and then what not and are all the noise and everything that comes and goes around it that clutters us up so I went out to the desert and a long story short I really needed to clear a lot of things Within Myself And also physically all that all my environment you know that is so beautiful and quiet and pretty desolate out there but it’s booming with life you know you sit there for just start looking and listening and you can just literally see everything breathing, there is a lot of movement actually I’m in that Stillness so when I had woke up yesterday that that raise this is just the beginning was really really strong in my head and the next one was come to life on my desk and just wrote what was coming out so and manifestation for the year which is so cool how that happened yeah I was I was actually kind of Blown Away by it at the end of it just because I felt like I’d gotten such a good I don’t know I guess I connected with a part of myself and I really listened to to to whatever it is or whatever they were trying to say to me in an hour or whether it was part of me as well I don’t know the point is that it’s I feel really really great and humbled that it came out so I’m just going to read you what what this sort of white magick manifestation isn’t this is just the beginning come to life it is the real you that speaks through your rebellious Sacred Heart in this living your life not the monkey mind the mind is not much more than a swirling canopy of Habitual reactions your monkey mind is not to run the show at the moment it might have a lot to say and at times it seems very convincing but it’s not the one in charge remember are three different brands one that had drained brain scuse me the mines brain which I like to also call once again the Periscope with the feeding tube attached that brain is responsible for logic and reason number two are other brain is the heart the heart brain you know the heart responsible for our emotions the death of things and our reactions to things I believe is Our God’s are intuition brain I believe it’s also very Primal and Saul so it didn’t stink you know I’m going to focus on the hearts and intuition brain and remember to the monkey brain rest gets us into trouble and the additional thoughts and creative and energetic Awakening is happening it is so far beyond what the mind is now capable of controlling others might not like it because it means change coming to life tends to do that however it is now and the only real choice I have to make is how to deal with it coming to life means feeling treating the space and just doing it don’t hold back and this process I will uncover the Artistry of the universal Creator and creators I will honor the sacredness of Life by exploring it without restraint and that includes the flow of my feelings I don’t have to do anything with them other than Express them learning how to access feeling allows you to learn how to access intuition creative inspiration and internal guidance I have chosen to come into a body and live consciously within it even in times of pain know and trust that there will be also ecstasy and Bliss as the process of healing and Awakening continues the message is be alive there’s no going back no falling into old ways I have crossed the threshold from an old way of being in an old life and try as I might I cannot return besides it won’t be the same as it used to griever celebrate do both move on there’s a new adventure awaiting me now and I want even deeper connection to my own instincts my body feelings intuition magic and everything I will trust and embrace it and it will trust and embrace me in return. 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