In this episode I’m joined by Larry Fredrick a highly experienced and accomplished evolved masculine coach. He shares the intimate details of his journey of personal growth through the catharsis of the early punk rock movement, transcending a failing marriage, getting into self-help, pick-up artistry, and ultimately a diverse array of spiritual and sexual mastery programs.
He has a down-to-earth perspective on learning and teaching practical self-improvement skill sets for men. With over 10 years of advanced training and practice he’s developed the “Rock Your Cock” program for men to really step into their power from a place of heart-centered, mindful, and spiritual consciousness.
I was most intrigued by his stories of experiencing authentic traditional tantric initiation in the jungles of India and his explanation of how he’s been able to adapt the teachings and apply them in his own love and sex life, as well as transmit the teachings to his students.
It was a deep honor and pleasure to have this opportunity to speak with a fellow rocker who’s living the dream as a tantric punk, has worked directly with many of my heroes, and who embodies forms of tantric magic that you can’t learn from books alone.
Larry Fredrick is an award winning international educator. He’s also a sex coach;
licensed and certified in Erotic Blueprints, Sexological bodywork, Neurolinguistic
Programming, Hypnotherapy, and Somatic Sex Education.
Larry works with men who want to clearly find and express their desires so they can
feel empowered in finding passion, pleasure, and juicy hot sex. He has traveled the
globe, from the mountains of Peru to Tantric temples in the jungles of India, training
with some of the top names in the fields of self transformation and sexual education
including Jaiya Ma, David Deida, Michaela Boehm, Destin Gerek, Satyen Raja and Joseph
From having issues with erectile dysfunction, performance and social skills, to
becoming a multi-orgasmic man with the skills and techniques of a confident lover,
Larry helps men step into their full erotic power so they can have more confidence in
the bedroom and in their relationships.
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin double dribble Evans welcome to Township Funk podcast episode number 2 0 7 buy a very Frederick who is a masculine empowerment coach and he has a lot of interesting and exciting offerings that we’re going to talk about we go back to having met through Destin Garrix Network and the weekends or weekend men’s Retreats that I’ve been apart of and he is taking that further and done the training and is now yeah Mexican apartment coaches work with Dustin Garrick he’s worked with Jaya and provides for blueprint training Psalm Isadora and others and that we have some interesting choices of Common Ground coming from a punk. Background and we’ll have lots to talk about regarding the relationship interplay between the punk at 6 and attitude and the Tantrum and so with that said Larry do you want to just give us kind of an overview of your personal Journey leading up to all of these exciting offerings at you right now well I mean my bias is long so I’m just going to cut to the meat I am on a masculine empowerment coach I have a program called Rock your cock which is on my website it’s exactly what the title says it’s to help me and be in there talking show up to women and masculine way and also be in their heart and be in their mind being there in their spirit so it’s connecting the lower chakras the higher chakras and it works through blocks and sexual techniques and on communication relationships so that’s the program that I’m offering the listeners they sign up on my website but I’ve also travel all over the world work with a whole bunch of teachers it’s been a long journey from a failed marriage sexless marriage to know I having an amazing hot juicy sex with an amazing woman I mean our house right now doing this podcast on so I think we should just get right to the question you might have been possible thank you that overview and I would say you have for me a lot of a lot of this work started with a path to Liberation through the punk rock movements I’d love to have to have you start there seems like an earlier chapter of your life when when you were mainly involved in that scene in that community and so I left it here just what that was like what that was like for you and how that’s kind of was a in a precursor to or foreshadowing a more spiritual path yes I would say that the punk movement was when I was part of the punk scene it was and I was not on the spiritual path I was graduated high school in 1982 and that was kind of the heart of the punk movement so when I would go out with my friends they would be to some of the Seas really small tiny little clubs and what I liked about the punk movement is that it was about redefining everything including what music you know like you didn’t even have to play an instrument to play an instrument and you also didn’t need what was an instrument instrument could be a power drill and instrument could be you know something that that you bang on and make noise you didn’t have to sing you didn’t have to look a certain way you could just go out there and express emotions so it was like in a really cathartic and sort of Rage driven and you know for a young man it was a way to kind of experience now on a more spiritual level two experience on a visceral level of emotions in a group of people yeah I hear you on that and that’s something I would like to ask you is as if you had since your contract negotiations and in Journeys in Adventures you I’m sure you have both experienced than just been coming across people who are core very much about inviting the shot the energy and Awakening Kundalini energy and a lot of sometimes erratic kind of krias and sometimes more graceful dance forms but I always like to make the comparison that the Kundalini energy is really well leather it up in the punk rock circle pit and sometimes even the mosh pit but there’s also like a activation going on that’s doing some stuff on purging and purification you have any thoughts on I’m not sure though I mean I know what I have learned over the years is a fellow I’ve done a lot of working in different states cramps and there’s definitely a trance that happens when you’re in a group of people listening to music whatever that music is an. The emotions that come out become magnified when they’re when it’s not just you feeling that emotion but a whole group of people feel emotions that are brought out in a punk rock club or different than in a tantric Puja but they’re still emotions and they’re still magnified by being in the group that is a great way to say and Selso and very inclusive way to say you had mention also that you do hypnosis so this might be a good time maybe a little out of the timeline to mention it here but we were talking about France dates and Altered States do you want to talk a bit about what he described for people who may be haven’t had an xtatic group emotional cathartic experience like what is that what how would you describe that in terms of your knowledge of how the brain works and how the nervous system works and and how Altered States were when you’re in a group of people doing the weather is a tantric Puja or a rock concert or even going to Vegas there’s a lot of things that are basically you go into a State of Trance when your mind is overloaded so if you’re overloaded by the sounds of slot machines going off at noises and sounds and smells your ear mind starts to get overloaded and then it becomes suggestible so we’re overloaded it when I live in Los Angeles I mean I’m overloaded as soon as I walk out of my house there’s there’s things that are overloading my mind which means that my mind is very susceptible to Suggestions by advertisers people that may not have my best interest so when you go into a trance State you were open and you could be open to positive suggestions or negative suggestions as a hypnotist I’m I’m trying to say I’m trying to see if you’re in that trance state with a hypnotist URI your ear assuming and I know that will not working with you I’m sitting in container with your safety mind and your best interest in mind so what I’m going to put his suggestions that are positive as opposed to suggestions that if you eat this hamburger from Carl’s jr. you’re going to get laid or whatever other suggestions people are putting in our head through our everyday hypnosis with that I don’t know if that makes sense yeah totally not exactly what I was supposed I’m getting out of here so I’m curious so from going from that earlier Punk type of initiation what what were some of the Catalyst I know you mentioned it a sexless marriage and so what was that process like of transforming your life pass into Seaking Tantra discovering it and then you can give us the sort of them chronology of the different works that you’ve been involved in 4 years old so I’ve had a lot of Life of different stories and episodes but I think one of us when I was in the midst of my marriage I was also sort of dissatisfied with my job and I went to I went to a therapist who was going to put me on medication and I said you know I’ll fuck that I don’t want to that’s not the route I want to go I want to take them medicine so I decided to look into hypnotherapy as a way of you know kind of working on myself like I figured that I could use positive thinking that use hypnotherapy to give direction to why was starting to feel kind of lost in a marriage and a job and it worked I mean a super powerful and I found that I was attracting when I was when I was starting out I was attracting a lot of men who either word at social anxiety or or problems relating to women a lot of guys that were in a computer Gamers and then they would just like really in their head and I found that they were drawn to me because I also I totally understand was a computer gamer I was addicted to World of Warcraft I was psychic Total Computer gamer I’m that was my way of escaping which is also a state of hypnosis so first I use it as a way of working on myself and then I just found that I naturally Drew clients for men who were going through the same thing I was in which is basically get out of your head and into your body and you know take all the negative stories all this all the self steam issues all the confidence issues in and a really men are powerful and in most of them we work hard and sometimes we forget that there’s so many negative stories like to impart positive confidence power and is just to show up those were some of the things that I was doing as a hypnotist and also letting them most of them were able to get over their shyness or their social anxiety and really feel much better about themselves and show up show up for women better now that you know that was just the beginning that was where I started I’ve got a lot farther since since I started out that is very interesting I’m very concerned about the new generation as well younger generation coming up through the video games in that level disconnection if you don’t mind before we move forward into more of the time and spirituality and sexuality episodes in chapters you know what would you say if you were if a person listening now is really hooked on gaming and not and not really taking care of their body and not taking care of their their relationships and I’m kind of getting sucked into that realm do you have any advice just off the top of your head that you would share or recommend that they contact you or I’d love to know about more resources for people in that situation too big essential secret for all of it and it’s not just kids on video games cuz I’m working out with about messing with about twenty-five men and it’s all they’re all it’s all the same as we’re in our heads we’re not in our body it takes like it it’s it’s like a gradual moving into our bodies and in feeling our bodies are so much numbness like I find the men that I’m working with right now I’m working with them and then they are like I’ll take a breath and they say what do you feel and if they will I feel relaxed bulshit you don’t feel relaxed you feel your body you feel the tension from being hunched over a computer over a car it’s like they’re not feeling their bodies so they’re not feeling their own their own bodies are not filled their emotions if shut it all down and they’re not showing up for the women in their lives thank you for doing that work and I would say myself I was I was very much a gamer growing up as a child but I guess luckily for me to games weren’t that controlling so I spent plenty of time by the time I matured sexually life my actual life became the video game that all of the BB King the real game that the video games were kind of like training for so I hope that that art of development can be kind of you know did you ever get that sense that there’s an appropriate role for four games of all kinds and then once life really starts going you should be out there and living it right but I mean I think everything is I’m not against games go and you know video games are awesome but I’m against retreating into your head into like a fantasy world so you’re not dealing with your own body your own emotions you’re not dealing with reality you’re not dealing with opportunities in front of you so you know there’s nothing wrong with video games is nothing wrong with whatever drugs or alcohol or whatever it is people use to get out of their bodies and into their you know whatever Escape people need but if you live there and you’re not you’re not connecting to the real world was obviously that’s not what I’m I want I want men to choose I want men to be a body grounded Power full sewing up in the real world and feeling their bodies feeling they’re motioning and feeling their sexuality because they’re missing out that you know that there’s a lot of men having sex or fucking but they’re not feeling like the full range of what’s possible in orgasm which even even what men consider orgasm I mean it took me a long time to reach to the point where I’m really like blown the lid off of what an orgasm is I I can I could lie in bed next to my partner and we haven’t even had sex and I’ll just be like convulsing in like shaking and in like complete pleasure that would could be nonstop until I finally so you know what I want to go to sleep so I didn’t even know what was possible an orgasm all right well yeah I get there I get your point I think so I think there could be a sweet spot of having your cake and eating it too guarding the video games and if you really develop yourself in in the physical and spiritual and sexual aspects then by all means enjoy the video games that I would take that to be some good advice and so now we’re getting into that more advanced sexual Spiritual Development so what happened next in your journey as far as your discovery of Tantra did you find out fire and go to a workshop or did some mystical Guru approach you and traveling trip or what was that that was very very much a guy into TV and video games and and I got involved in like the pickup seen you know there’s did the pickup artist scene and at which why don’t want to get into that but I was listening to a podcast and I found out about this workshop and it was a tantra Workshop didn’t you didn’t the guy named such Young Living Canada who is still I still involved with his great awesome teacher and it was a it was a 3-day workshop and involving Connection in communication between men and women and it was sort of a Puja but again none of these words and if you did I wouldn’t have known what it was what it meant I was totally not into anything that I considered spiritual chakras or any of that stuff I would not have gone which is it was called I think was called sex passion in Enlightenment something like that was a 3-day workshop and I went to that and it just blew my mind I mean making eye contact with different women and I’m all of the things that came up all of the emotions that came up all of the you know that the self-reflection that came up and reminder that there’s a story I told him another podcast but I might as well tell the story I was I was paired up with a woman and she looked me in the eyes it was like eye contact and all she said to me is I trust you this was just the lines that a woman was supposed to say to a man I trust you and I received that you know the woman sang to me I trust you and I I was on the ground like crying for I don’t I don’t even know how long are in a ball crying because I realized I was not a trustworthy Matt which is why my marriage is all fucked up I was not a man that a woman can trust and I sort of made it like I sort of question what what is it like to be a trustworthy man what is what is a trustworthy man that’s what a woman wants no more than a big cock they want a man’s dick trust I mean so it in terms of becoming a sexual Manner and I realized I had a lot of inner work to do and then I realized that what I was learning was Contra and then and then that set me on a whole other path which is actually why I was attracted to Dyess blueprints because she talks about different blueprints one of being energetic and I realize that I was an energetic and I didn’t even know what that was I didn’t even know that was a thing but now that I’ve coached for the blueprints it’s like I wasn’t energetic in my shadow which hole explain later but I was at I was an energetic was kind of didn’t know I was and therefore I lived in the shadow of the energetic well I just was a beautiful story and I think yeah but I’m glad that that offering existed and you were able to connect with it I do I didn’t get involved myself in the pickup scene and I I guess I kind of I feel like I avoided it as as a Pastime personally but I have met some people recently you know who was part of their the early attorney as well and so if you don’t mind talking about it I love to hear a little bit more but if you’d rather not that’s fine too but I’ll just put that out there for people who don’t some of the principles of it I think there is maybe it has a bad reputation as being manipulative and really selfish and kind of way to use kind of trickery and and tactics of Deceit and so that’s that’s like the negative impression I have it although I’ve been enlightened that there’s more to it and it’s actually a past 2 in development and evolution that’s that has a very respectable depends on who you train with or who your buddies are but do you want to talk about that is there anything Redemptive that people should know about that but I think there’s an idea is that we can change as men that we can learn skills we can learn skills like presents we can learn how to communicate better that these are skills that we need to learn that we’re not just some men are what are called Naturals but a lot of men are not and that there’s ways to teach it to the ways to learn it there’s ways to improve so the idea of men like I mean there’s a lot of ego and in terms of no I’m good I’m good I’m okay you know I’m I’m doing alright like the idea of the pickup is that actually wherever you’re at you could be better and pick up does use a lot of NLP which is neuro-linguistic programming that’s kind of a another reason I got interested in it and a hypnosis in a lot of the things that you know now that I that I teach it there was a lot of things that I learned from being in that scene especially the ideas at these are skills that could be learned in that they can be taught so we don’t have to be satisfied with where we’re at as men and that there are ways to break down and improve their very well said I appreciate that if somebody was had missed out on getting into the pickup seen earlier do you recommend that people go and read certain books or watch certain videos or find certain meetups is it still something that you would include in your programs for men now or was it something that you kind of see is like all well it was a means to an end or stepping stone I’m curious if you would still endorse that movement somehow we’ll see I don’t know what the movement is up to now I think there’s a lot of no sketchy kind of characters in there and a lot of like exploiting a lot of marketing and a lot of I think taking advantage of men who want to improve I mean I would recommend myself because hitch hook I’m taking what I learned from pick up from hypnosis and other things and spirituality and I’m not teaching not teaching men to go out to bars and pick up women but I’m teaching men to be the kind of man that wants to go to the bars they’ll be more attractive to women don’t I don’t teach lines or anything like that cuz I found they don’t work but works is doing the work on yourself so you show up as a more powerful attractive man and I think that what the pickup is exploiting is is they need which again I finding working with men is like we want the Magic Bullet and we want it fast and we want it like Surefire and we want it without doing the work like we want we want that they promised a lot and you know like the magic pick up line is going to make them horny and a lot of it’s bullshit really but if you get involved if it doesn’t wake you up and turns it over these are things that I can improve I I can improve my posture I can improve how I make eye contact with person and I can improve my listening skills I can improve how I show up and then these things help build confidence and then when confidence is building then you naturally become more attractive person and more attractive to women those again great points I’m glad that that were talking about that something I I guess kind of worried and hasn’t again been that personal to me but I feel you on that so so now where would you say you want to start bringing in the official trainings that you did the Special Operations that you’ve done with some of the sum of the key players in the modern Neo Tantra and movement sounds like you’ve been you know getting out there and so when did your formal or more formal training ministration start in Gaston go from there after I did that work with Sachi on the path of the Warrior Stage so I did a lot of work with him which included shamanic journeys to Mexico meeting doing doing meeting shamans and I can’t even like going to some of the the magical crazy stuff that happened in he he was he was into David data so I got involved with David data in one of his teachers Michaela boehm might I work with her and so these are different different forms of Tantra and none of them call themselves Tantra but then I got involved in like I met Psalm Isadora and she’s much more of a the more traditional like old school country from India or the cheap there’s a whole Neo Tantra movement which comes from Osho and a lot of the teachers teach this this form of Tantra that is basically from Osho when he came to America and I do know it’s like I can’t talk forever about talks so much about it but some really I really clicked with her because she she she brought in this like traditional chanting in Sanskrit and it was just beautiful rituals and I like the ritual of it I like the I like the kind of formality of the ritual so she told me about a temple that you did too in India and if it came to my mind and then she passed away so I never got a chance to go to this Temple but then I did with another teacher Don Cartwright took me to this Temple because it’s hidden you don’t know where it is and it’s like an old-school ancient country Temple Heating in the jungle and if you can give you make it there by got initiated basically it was like 2 weeks class of of learning how to chant incense sounds great and there’s is 108 goddess statues and you have to do a ritual to each one it’s it’s kind of like you’re just immersed in this ancient language there there’s flowers everywhere and smells and and it’s just kind of mind-blowing I was basically magic school it’s like I learn magic and but that sounds weird is it there there’s a hundred and a goddess statues in in like they’re all sexual and there’s that there’s a Temple there that’s like the Yoni Temple so it’s basically goddess worship and I have to learn these these these rituals and you just immersed in it and it is going into a trance basically your this thing is in the jar there’s no toilet paper there if you eat with your hands and it’s like a whole other world it’s like going back thousand years and and then at the end do you know I basically was initiated into the srivijaya lineage but what’s interesting about it is I did a ceremony with kaniche where I was basically the one of my wishes was to bring this woman I was seeing on this journey with me and I’m in our house right now it’s been 3 years and we were just kind of seeing each other but I wanted her to be part of this journey and then for Valentine’s Day after coming back from the temple I did this Pooja that I learned there in the temple that it’s like a secret ancient ceremony and I learned it And I memorized it and I practiced it and I prefer I did it to her on Valentine’s Day and she said that blew her mind like like like to have it wasn’t that it wasn’t the ritual of it but to have so much attention paid on her like all the details that you know you have to have and tastes all five senses I touch different parts of her body different pressure points and pleasure points and did chanting and took like 2 hours but it said she said that blew her mind you know like to have that kind of ritual performed on her and I could never do it again it’s like I could not remember all of that all of that stuff I learned I have to go back in my arms again but it was almost it did feel like I had received some kind of transmission and I like I was I’m talking about it I don’t really talk about this I’ve never actually really talked about this because there’s some feeling of I don’t know if people are going to believe me or am I showing off or what it what exactly am I saying and yet I’m also feeling like a vibration in my chest that I went through this experience was pretty incredible I mean hidden country temple in the jungles of India and initiating in the bringing that to my girlfriend yeah it is putting me in a trance as I talk about it well me too I’m having an adventure in my mind too and I love that you shared that and I feel blessed that you feel comfortable sharing those details with me and I’m sure there’s you know you can write a whole book just about that that cycle that you did there but you know I’m I’m flashing through all of the experiences I’ve had doing fujas and rituals and ceremonies and just everything that I’ve experienced in in the westernized Neo Tantra version where think there’s always a number of people who’ve had those more authentic traditional classical country experiences in India or in other parts of other parts of the world and bring that back and are able to bring that transmission and that energy carries forward for people who work for just you know in some meat up in somebody’s living room on in West play or something and actually it is it transmits but I love hearing the stories of the actual experience is cuz we really I don’t think we have many places in the US where where goddess worship and the ritualised procedural practice of worshiping and asking for blessings and protection from the deities I don’t see that happening a lot I send in the meet-up send in the township groups what not I think there is more of a focus on more secular personal development and just you know how to be a better relationships and this kind of undifferentiated one missense of bliss but I’m actually way more interested in this otherworldly transdimensional intelligent entities deities and beautiful Divine spirits that have personalities and very distinct archetypal Personalities in that that’s what you’re talking about and so I’m thrilled to always hear more about what those practices of the ones that seem to not get through the mesh into the West as often as like the multi-orgasmic even the Kundalini stuff which I’ve heard you know a lot of Kundalini people approach Kundalini without without paying homage to its is a feminine Shakti goddess aspect of it so much so yeah I’m glad you had that experience and then that you bring that forward and certainly that we just go from talking about the gimmicks of pick up Artistry which you know it’s like I think of pickup artists I think of con artists I think of like confidence scams and then evil going from from that Vibe of that world to this experience you talking about and translating the beauty and magic of these experiences in Matt’s and then having the proof in the pudding and applying it to turning on and really worship thing and giving to this beloved you yours like I hope that those people who are trying to buy the magic pills and by the secret pick up lines and all that they actually would hear this and and and be inspired by what you’re saying you say there’s like a way way deeper Richard passed to towards some pleasing women and in being a God you know being like the guy who gets her off the best and the guys will never forget that that can come from it a deeper more of my spiritual face so thank you very much that was my you know my my Applause and praise for it for you sharing that and so do you want to then go from there to how you started to apply that if you start to want to teach Tantra more formally and start building your own kind of phone programs did you do some other trainings if you go to work with diarrhea right after that or what was next time you’re you’re sort of Business Development path of Tantra make something clear like this I’m listening to this I’m not expecting men to go into the jungles in like wipe their ass with their hands because there’s no toilet paper you know what and then come back and do a 3-hour ritual to the woman in order to get laid that’s not what I’m saying that I did that but what I teach man is to put their attention and make make like or you can make an ordinary day exciting and ritualistic so like I’m going we’re going to San Diego this weekend and we’re sitting we’re going to turn it into a ritual at an adventure and I’m going to I’m going to pay attention to my woman as opposed to like the pickup artist seen I think there was a lot of like Don’t Buy Women drains their they’re not going to respect you if you if women don’t respect men who are nice guys and all that in you could be nice to a woman you could pay attention to a woman you could be attentive to her needs you could have your balls intact it’s not like if you’re if you’re nice to a woman or you please a woman or you pay attention to her that you’re giving up your balls that’s like the thing that I didn’t like about pick up cuz I love sharing my woman with some attention so you don’t like what I did was was a super elaborate version of that and yet there’s ways to pay attention in minor ways every single you all the time and so I try to make ordinary time with her you know beautiful and sacred and in treat her like a goddess even if I’m wash will just washing dishes you know like make that a ritual washing dishes so the dishes are done so we can go to the bedroom and we can fuck you know it’s like let’s let’s make washing dishes a ritual let’s make washing dishes set let’s make washing dishes away press to get that out of the way so we have space in our lives and two to pay attention to each other and dropped into a space of Sacred Love and that does not require you going to the jungles I just requires the shift in in your perspective I love it seems like there’s always going to need to be some ratio of people who have had the deeper immersive experiences in the classical traditional timeshare temples and then bring that back and you know it’s like everybody’s not going to be a shaman but we need to have a sweet spot kind of ratio so thank you for having that experience I’m certainly some point wanting wanting to to be one of those folks who can have a deeper experiences and then transmit them and translate them into a more modern contact so so yeah thanks for that clarification and and that makes a lot of sense so so yeah what would what was your next step word some building the confidence not only to please your own lovers but to teach bring this magic and medicine and and then skill sets to Two Men and develop more of a practice of your own let me guess it was very important to me because I went through his program it’s a whole new program that was videos as you know cuz you’re in the videos but so there’s a lot more aid for teaching men and I’m running man through this program I now that I found this in again when I was part of the pickup seen and he was at some some he was speaking at one of them I don’t remember how I ran into him but then I kept running into him like every single week I would go to event and they were all different events that when was The Burning Man event and when was it Astro van with a pick up a bed and was like who is this guy Destin I should call him and talk to him and I went through his program and I became multi-orgasmic so it was like wow I read that might actually work and all of that and it didn’t work but Justin’s program work and now I’m not like a coach like now I am authorized to teach his two other men because he really breaks it down he went through 6 logical Body Works which I actually also went through that trade-in so I see where it comes from I see the roots for it I see why it works and how it works and the bottom line is it works it’s like you can take a man run him through this step by step program in at the end he he’s pretty much has control over his orgasm and it worked for me and it’s working for the men that are going to the program I know it works I mean he’s done it with hundreds and hundreds of men so that was one official training I got and then and another training I got is was why is blueprints with shock yeah I mean that I learned about Jaya Jaya to Destin one of his podcast actually I had seen joy around I seen her she used to promote our books at different events different sexual advance and I would see Jai I kept seeing her also but then I was listening to an interview that just ended with her where she was talking about what she called The Erotic Blueprints and I was in another relationship where I was bringing all my Tantra training in my you know I gazing into this relationship and I thought it was great you know I was having orgasm but the woman wasn’t and I thought well am I what’s wrong and then just kind of said there’s Blueprints and I’m unenergetic like that’s why I love this time. I happen to be an energetic and I can I can really tap into that and I can have these incredible experiences but not everybody is an energetic and then she said then there’s a sensual there’s a sexual there’s a kinky and there’s a shapeshifter and I realized while the woman that I was with was very sexual and I’m sexual also but it was not my primary blueprint so I was speaking to her as an energetic like expecting her to have the same kind of contract experiences but she wasn’t a wire that way and and then sometimes she would just like to just want to like you just want to fuck and I was like what I want to connect first one I gave you like really just want to go there right away so now I’m learning to speak the other person’s language and understand my own language and the woman I’m with now super super sensual that’s why she loved that couch I get because it was all about taste and smell and sound with all the senses so that really turned wrong because of who you was designed to be a sensual experience we’re all over essential were lit up and I know how to I know how to speak the language of a sensual and one of them is example making sure for a sensual if things are out of place if dishes are done at the house is dirty she can’t drop into her body she can’t really experience orgasm so for me clean up the houses is for play because that’s what my that’s what my partner wants she wants all that stuff out of her head because the sensual will get into their head start worrying about stuff and then you know of a few years down the line the partnership is not working out they’re not understanding why they’re not there there they both think they’re having sex but when is having one is not getting their energetic fed and the others not getting their Central fat or their sexual fat so learning the blueprints was like to learn that I was in energetic like blew me away because then I realized it is a thing in that it’s not weird to have these orgasmic experience is just looking into someone’s eyes but it’s also know it may not be the way another person the person I’m with name me not experience it the same way and I can’t force them to have that experience I appreciate that work that was done. Can you say kind of from your training and where you work with her and Emma studies of for blueprint I’m not aware of the podcast before I don’t have it on the top of my head, the backstory of how how she would describe the the process of discovering these beasts different patterns do could you say something to what what to your your recollection is like her kind of backstory around that if if you would let me hear backstory things I mean her backstory she was also sexological bodyworker which is we all have in common me giant Destin we’ve all been trained by the same teacher Joseph Kramer and sexological Body Works and child learn after hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours working with couples that there was different couples were turned on by different touch like the man might be turned on by certain kind of touch and the woman might be turned on by a different kind of touch and they weren’t the same so the man expected the woman to respond the way he was responding and then just started to break it down and realized that a sensual is turned on by a completely different sort of touch than the sexual is and they’re actually if you want to know what your blueprint is if you go on my website you can take your who is there is emails that you’ll get I will explain all the blueprints so my website is in-body awakening.com which is e m p o d y m body which is hard to spell under the dash awakening.com hopefully you’ll have this written somewhere so it’s a for sure that’ll be on the Awakening., there’s a quiz on the bottom you can take the quiz for free and then you’ll get emails that looks plain all of them it’ll tell you what your blueprint is and then you’ll get emails at hotel look at 5 different emails that will explain the is the superpower of each blueprint and the shadow side of each have a shadow site to find that out and then again yeah go on the website take the quiz and then you can book a session with me and I can talk about how how you can implement this in your sex life because the blueprints is just one part of my program cool alright well thank you for sharing that and also I think it’s a great point to make that people who have been in this field in this movement and its industry and have done that level of work a game that sense of Mastery and then these emergent properties of being able to distill these kind of macro counter and that’s where that that wisdom and in comes from is that that richness of experience so I appreciate your hearing about that and I know there’s a number of other systems that people have developed to categorize various kind of powder and sand and styles of relating and there’s love languages that you know all kinds of different different metrics and tools that have been developed to kind of self analyze and solve correct and in in an ad so glad that there is more of the sexual and Amore essential systems that are being developed and so yes and then after that now where does that where does that bring us to within in your historical chronological timeline are we getting close to where you’re at now or where was there more happening before we get to the present but no car now what your you can go into the details of the the rock your cock program it sounds like it’s probably drawing on all the influences but that I don’t want to skip over anything before we get there so yeah what where where else what else do we need to cover it to get to the present read marriage I started to want something else got involved in the pickup scene from their got involved in Contra through Sachi on and then became a hypnotist it so it is it’s not like this happen overnight is was 10 years and then you know traveling with Sachi on and seeing these shamanic having the shamanic experience has started to open me up to this other world of that as an energetic at first I would have been like so skeptical because that’s that’s what the shadow of the energetic is it’s like because I was an energetic I was denying that there could possibly be everything have to have a scientific explanation and everything we was bullshit and Kippy and you know I’m coming from the punk background you know those hippies like I had but that was my shadow side because I was actually completely once once I got opened up and started to experience things myself it was like boom I’m in energetic I can feel energy I could I actually have these experiences that I can’t really describe in that not everyone has to believe know if they don’t believe it that’s fine I’m not going to try to convince anyone all I know is I’ve had some incredible experiences so so it was from pick up Tantra hypnosis and then then starting to find the teacher including traveling to Canada traveling to India going to Peru having different a Mexico having different experiences and I think my primary influences then became Destin enjoy shampoo mentored me and taught me their system the system of sexual self-mastery for men so men can become multi-orgasmic and the the blueprints which is like the love languages for the bedroom and what’s nice about it is I can teach this it’s like this is exactly what the pick up pick up Community says I could break it down I could teach it plus I had hypnosis to it so like a high anchor in so you remember the stuff and in fact I’m filming a whole I’m feeling a whole Erotic Hypnosis thing in the middle of filming at we have it work where I put my partner and she’s never even done it before on film where she becomes she has these just from listening going into hypnosis you basically has hypnotics orgasms and I put her on the bed in a hypnotic BDSM session I teach you guys how to do this so this is my own stuff that I’m adding offering a lot it’s like 10 years of all of these different trainings come together into my one Rodger cock I survived that sounds great siding and I can’t I’m jealous that you that you got such a great name for it I got it how did I how did that slip by me all this time you noticed it’s funny it’s funny cuz originally and have more of like a mask you act like I was masculine and Power Man in and he’s kind of names and I just said no fuck it rocks your cock cuz that’s what men want you know even though I’m teaching them spirituality and all this other stuff that’s not going to get them excited rock your cock it’s like yeah because that’s the end result I’m offering the end result rock your cock and that means more than just about getting your cock it’s not about getting your cock hard it’s about showing up as a man in his masculine energy and it is feminine so it’s like I’m being done being sneaky cuz I’m also teaching men to be in their feminine to to be in their heart but not going to get him in the door you know what gets him in the door is it’s about your cock about being a man and it’s about showing up in that way but in order to do that you need to embrace your family and you need to be able to have have experiences trance-like experiences which again you can do through breathing which I teach to help self hypnosis so but yeah the name your cock cuz that’s the end result income for the Shiva and you stay for the shock to you no thank God it’s it’s it’s Punk is Rock You Know rocks you rock it you know it’s it’s about showing up in in in in playing her instrument and just playing it however the fuck you want to you know you don’t have to go and take formal lessons in in school you just you just rock it because it’s natural I love that you. That’s it what’s the point right to get to where things flow naturally and you’re not fighting anything and you’re not having to count all people who are more than the more I guess you could say the the less edgy the less sexual the less explicit but the more kind of family-friendly Orthodox Temple Tantra experiences are going to be a lot of ritual as an end in techniques and tools that that are about you counting beads and Counting chance and getting using all of these Scott all the scaffolding and all of these handrails sort of to build the capacity to have full attention in your body and then eventually you are less reliant on on those techniques and it just you just like a martial artist it’s just there when you need it and you just keep time keeping that refresh so yeah I love that idea that I think we’re kind of stripping away layers of domestication we’re getting back back to a more and body Primal state where it wasn’t we weren’t overcoming so many neurotic not than patterns and things in and it would just be a more natural more that’s also the punk rock thing you know I would say as well as they shed this formalities boxes the first module of my program because it got to clear our our modern the roses and there are blocked because it’s like the about stuff like I don’t believe that any of these you can learn sexual techniques but until you get that’s why it’s modular like I teach Advanced sex techniques but I don’t teach that until you get past your blocks and learn how to be present to your body and your breathing and then again you don’t need to do all the fancy he learn Sanskrit stuff all you need to do is learn how to breathe and feel your body I’m stripping it down I’m I’m not I’m getting rid of all the do you know the esoteric because I know not again not everybody’s an energetic I want everybody to be able to relate to my program so I guess I’m not it’s not part of my even though I did all that stuff I’m not going to teach anyone how to chant in Sanskrit I’m going to teach a man how to breathe into their body so they can feel where they have tension in their body and where they can open up and start feeling their emotions thank you again for everything I think we’re about a good point to wrap up if you want to share some final words of advice final insides and then again where people can go to find your work yeah well my website again I already said it is in body – awakening.com and are they can take the quiz for free and then if you want it there to sign up for a session and when our strategy session where we can talk about how we can use the blueprints and how I can work with men specifically and I would put Township punk in the comments because I think that your audience is in particular audience and I would work with the men that come from this podcast different than men that come from another podcast so I would create an individual program although my I have a module program this whole setup is I would modify it according to my listeners and have a one-hour session with them so that’s embody – awakening.com take the quiz and sign up for a strategy session with me awesome well thank you so much man has been a pleasure to talk shop with you and I’ll still be able to have that a resident so I think sometimes people can lose a grounding this and that sort of bullshit detectors at the punk rock movement I think gives us a very good protector and I can tell that you’re upgrading from that place if a healthy skepticism in and also but open-mindedness to and avoiding Dogma avoiding too much too many rules and in too many I don’t think I don’t think you’re going to fall into the style of a cult leader or become a cult leader yourself in a in a bad way so thank you for your offer doing all that work you’re doing and for glad we got to have this conversation and we will be publishing this in the next couple weeks or so getting through a backlog of a previous guess that’s what I will send you the link and we will hopefully be able to talk more again in the future all right right on cool alright well thanks so much again and have a great day thank you. 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