In this episode I’ve been blessed with permission to publish my favorite Tantric scholar Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern’s lecture called An Academic Overview of Tantra. I discovered his epic video a few years ago and felt it to be the most comprehensive yet accessible single unit of tantric teaching I’d yet found. It’s truly a universally compelling thesis that continues to passionately move me to share his work. I consider this piece to be one of the single most important prerequisites for any modern student of the tantric arts. He takes us on a geographic, historical, and philosophical adventure.
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Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern B.A. (Hons.) PGCE. D.SC. (Hon), PhD. is a philosopher, historian, teacher, poet, author, lecturer, musician, thinker, educator, consultant and peace studies specialist. His academic background includes degrees in European and world history (with political philosophy) and religious education, plus a long period of intense personal study in philosophy, religion and the history of ideas – together with over 30 years teaching experience in the same fields. He has also trained and practised in conflict management within communities and schools, specialising in multifaith and multicultural mediation. He is also a trained and experienced teacher in secondary schools, specialising in philosophy, religious education, history and citizenship studies. He was awarded his PhD from the University of London for a thesis which explores the history of the search for peace from 1945-2001 and which proposes a new field of historiography, Transpersonal History, as the best way to establish a rigorous discourse on peace among rival and contending spiritual and intellectual traditions, currently battling for hegemony on the planet. He is an expert in research techniques and methodologies on all aspects of history, religious studies, the history of world philosophy and transpersonal psychology. He has lectured in peace studies, philosophy and religious studies for many years at the Universities of London and Oxford, and has spoken twice at the UN Headquarters about the role of Universities in changing the climate of fear and violence on the planet to one of trust and wisdom-seeking. He is a founder and coordinator of International Philosophers and Historians for Peace and has worked with philosophers and intellectuals from many countries worldwide to help establish intellectual and spiritual networks for peace and goodwill. In 1990 he was elected in Moscow as Coordinator of International Philosophers for Peace, a specialist body of philosophers worldwide searching for peace and international understanding.
He is Director of the International Institute of Peace Studies and Global Philosophy (IIPSGP) which works across many academic fields to bring together all those with an interest in and a commitment towards the study of peace and philosophy on all levels of the personal and global and to applying the qualities of love and wisdom to the resolution of the problems and tensions of today’s world. IIPSGP arose out of a feasibility study which Thomas undertook for the University of London into the proposed establishment of an Institute of Peace Studies (from 1989-1992). IIPSGP now operates as an autonomous Institute with members scattered worldwide. Thomas is also Founder of The Global Green University, which has arisen from the work of IIPSGP and was launched in 2000 as a pilot project in complementary higher education, to bring into being a new global higher education initiative which can provide space for the deeper kind of learning which we believe is needed at this time of critical transition in the history of planet earth.
Thomas has developed long term educational programmes to widen understanding of the causes of conflict and approaches to peace and to assist social and cultural development. He has also created, (in association with the Gandhi Foundation and the World Conference on Religion and Peace), the Multifaith and Multicultural Mediation Service. The M.M.M.S. is the first mediation service to specialise in disputes in which issues of faith and/or culture are present. He has also served as an educational adviser to numerous organisations including the UN and UNESCO. He has travelled widely in India and has visited 8 times, travelling throughout the country and meeting academics and spiritual seekers. He has extensive knowledge of Indian religious and philosophical teachings and has proposed the formation of an Indian Union Mediation Service to prevent conflicts in the entire sub-continent. He is a lay member of the Anglican Church, as well as a practicing Druid elder, Qabalist, Sufi, Yogi, Tantric and universal mystic with an extensive knowledge of all world religious and philosophical traditions. He served as educational director of the Gandhi Foundation with the late Surur Hoda, and as Secretary General of the World Conference on Religions and Peace (UK and Ireland) from 1990-1997 attending and contributing to many of its international conferences in Rome, Vienna, Sweden and Paris. As an ecumenical esotericist and universal mystic, he has also spoken at Theosophical, Anthroposophical and other esoteric organisations and networks worldwide, and helped convene the Network of Wisdom Schools at the Theosophical Society headquarters in London in 2000 for Sancta Sophia Seminary. He has spoken in Edinburgh to the Edinburgh International Festival For Middle Eastern Spirituality and Peace on several occasions, running a workshop there on the Esoteric Dimensions of Peacemaking in the Middle East, focused on his book The Qabalah Runes. He has lectured in the USA on various occasions, including at Sancta Sophia Seminary, as well as at Findhorn in Scotland and the Edinburgh and Israeli Theosophical Society.
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design a never more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin your beloved’s welcome to Tundra Punk podcast episode number 196 I’m running the audio from a video put out by Thomas cloth Dufferin which is called an academic overview of Tantra and that’s how I discovered his work we did an episode together a while back episode number 146 and luffman and Enlightenment with peace and Tantra scholar dr. Thomas cloth diapering and he is really one of my most cherished Scholars of Tantra and practitioners and we go very deep into our discussions of the political and the logical Praxis of Tantra as an art of love and healing in and ultimately planetary peace and so I really love this overview of town. He gives it to my reference sort of go to for anybody who I who I meet who is interested in exploring this topic it’s really a powerful comprehensive overview and really gets into the Geo historical journey of Tantra that the scriptures of taking over the course of hundreds if not thousands of years and so much rich and deep history and philosophy that he brings to it which is hard to find all in one place in the work he’s done the rigorous meticulous academic work he’s done and his ability to articulate that is is profound so I wanted to I wanted to be able to have that content available directly on my site he was again gracious enough to provide this permission to do this it’s also a Prelude to a deep discussion that we did recently that will come out soon all about what he is calling a thesis of Applied Tantra and we going to some very interesting places with that discussion in one of my real serious favorite mentors in the world always makes me feel like when we’re talking that were in the middle of some epic Indiana Jones plot to unravel these Mysteries and it it’s should be no surprise that I am really passionate about about demystifying did the truth that can be discovered within Tantra and actually rectifying the damage that was done in the misrepresentation of Collie in the Indiana Jones series so this is very app for me and always the passion that we share when we when we talk is is really a Timmy reminiscent of that that passion that many people have for that Series so I just have one to say this is a lot a lot of fun for me to to work with him into and hopefully more will happen in the future and I really do hope you deeply immersed yourself in this episode and listen to it over and over again as you are out there also known as we all do try to do our best to to give proper attribution and respect and contacts to this mystery that we that we call Tantra so thank you very much namaste what I want to talk about it is a kind of academic overview of what temperature is what academic expense in in religious studies know about Tantra what we * 9. Where it comes from. What why the concepts interesting why the practices and traditions are interesting how old they are I’m having to link with different religious practices in Origins and then why it’s become so kind of popular now in the present world and in the 21st century it’s got a long history and it’s still popping away and doing things people in the life so that’s very interesting said the first thing about the word concept as a linguistic + highways look at the word fast to understand the concept of time which comes in two parts 1010 means I’m extension and stretch it isn’t holding European is that are in the word extension in English intention the implication is this a tension between two polarities and turn into a tantra is understood by tantric meditation to study language they know the meaning of that Sanskrit words right they said refers to the extension that underlies the entire universe Tantra studies the workings of the Gods Shiva and Shakti they did the Primal female and male energy causes cracked universe and is interested in how that universe is crazy. It’s the tension the clarity that underlies the entire Cosmos now course the crate is inventis a tundra ancient Bronze Age and Neolithic and pre Ice Age possibly see us an ancient India and him and I reach in and Central Asia they didn’t know the astronomical confirmation the size of the universe they didn’t know it was twenty thousand million light-years across extension but they knew and Chuchu play it was lost right they looked at the stars from the Himalayan caves and said wow wants to celebrate. Incredible expensivest on denies universe that’s the 10 bit and dumb the other one to try is the same as as transcend to go beyond its in transpersonal it’s Interra it’s in the concept the roofs of Troy in Sanskrit and this is confirmed by Panini in the crate Sanskrit United linguists as well as more Moulton Linguistics is that the truth always has this information can be on something transcending it I need it supposed to reach of the word 3 which is if you think about it it’s it’s you take the basic polarity of something the tension between things and then you try and send it with rhenus to make a pyramid or a triangle triangle that tries at the root of all Concepts threeness in the Trinity the Christian knowledge of wisdom which is that the Trinity is the summing-up of the ten talents you things because you have that third point Rudolf Steiner talks about the mystery of three and of course The Druids use the word use the the number 3 some of the totality of mysteries so try is and it’s even in the would try which means to spy to go beyond to try to do something if you study the etymology of into European word roots you got a lot of very interesting metaphysical insight into the original some metaphysical fultz of of these ancient Sears and sages Sanskrit was one of us you know direct lineage has but it’s not Wilson Celtic and I will sex and lots of green Consulting & Slavic languages. That truck is in trimurti which is in 3/4 aspects of gold the Hindus had Frozen around see what that means but it is about how the universe is created the entire Cosmos that we know is Creighton and then going Beyond it going to the source getting to the incredible invisible you know what physicists now according to energy Tae crazy Cosmos Embassy is just a little popsicle compared to what still out at the Undiscovered what’s working here about ten trees explained met the metaphysical. It’s where everything comes from its ho I’m even call it Heaven Christians and other religions say there’s another world parallel to this the TransPass no spiritual heaven when Soul goes off to off the tack that’s the world that transfer takes you to it it’s best right now that’s a very profound and that’s the essence of all religion if you think about it that’s the old religion tries to do so where does this tradition come from well it’s it’s the satiric Transmissions that are some fast light the Ancients is The Vedic says some of the earliest spiritual writings on the planet from the Himalaya regions North India 15 1700 BC and Aunt Auntie withdrawing and I’m actually anxious and knowledge system handed down by word of mouth is my rising at this time for those people that was writing in the Indus Valley culture has which day facts about 2500 BC. Script is not being fully deciphered some say it was related to Sanskrit some say it was related to dravidian it seems to contain elements within characters in Dasani script that relate to Chantry Concepts you see it have a Shiva like figure in in in meditation post and since there are animals to the remind olevic for sacred animals will sacred name 47 spiritual powers and energies like snake the Buffalo lion the Tigris a truck I’m so I think what we can say is that the 10 traditions in Hinduism drawer on The Well of wisdom that is from the northern Indian couches that they are the dravidian couches probably of that region plus the Indus Valley cultures which may mean nothing to it in the Shiva was probably that that mean Diancie tendon European tribes appearing Brahman and United the beta codes appearing Agni and Davey using Soma as a as an ecstatic mind-altering substance because Shaman’s wanted to access the state of ecstasy wants to go beyond the world and these ancient tribes found that one way to do that is to is to use the freaks of nature nature provides the clues I just salvation in in the fruits of the earth and the Millennium expensive things he found a certain kinds of herbs and potions and compounds produced send kinds of facts and Consciousness I’m Goldenwest some and other kind of receptions into socket e-mail to Scott speculations that human consciousness itself turns McKenna right about the food of the Gods the human consciousness itself if Cole among these primitive 8 by creatures ramapithecus the renewal in India 3 million BC something to make him leave about 60,000 be seeing me stop thinking and toking why did they stop making that maybe we just sort of discovered incredible effects of of of Summa and scriptures say that at some point we plugged into the language we would conscious maybe the same story is kind of trickle-down in the other parts of Asia in the west as the fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil when it becomes of Doc some dangerous thing but in fact if it’s the fruit of the Tree of Life which is a certified centrifical text and then there’s probably an ancestral memory in the people that wrote those Biblical scriptures down much later. Somehow that’s going to be ingesting The Forbidden substance and the Advent of an experience of intellectual ecstasy or omissions today’s Vedic Sears with pussy Hawaii if a pretty powerful is the wonderful story of the brand has reached out but going to see a Hindu Guru in in like I’ve seen it somewhere up in the glass give accounts to see my recent film I’m cold still here when he says you know he he he been worrying about his life his mother just died and she had a phone call from his brother he was you know he wasn’t in a fit state to see the guru I never met this guy before he went out in the friend group the largest they stayed in the night before 2 to look at the stars and kind of feel sorry for himself anti Peta what am I doing things to see this. I don’t believe in good reason I’m a nice Jewish boy from from America and I am a Scientist but he was experimenting with you anyway the next day he went out to the ash travel group was introduced they went and sat down buy him a new fuse to power any kind of a patient’s doesn’t do that Westin Long Beach. CA I’m time he sat down in his presence I’m a God-fearing man could speak broken English sunset that was a really sad State you got into last night on the trying to watch him to stop thinking about your mom I’m so sorry that you felt all those things you pick this up telepathically that moment prom dresses salute conceptual framework of what’s permissible for Consciousness to do something the evaporated he was a guy able to read his mind right to the depth of his soul could pick up his in a spiritual angst anything from not moving to transform and that guy became a screw and gave him a new name and he’s he’s in a line of descent from The Vedic says I’m talking about they were at that level thousands of years kind of cat to have a sentence with initiation Worley now can’t respond for that system North World Hindu gurus practice 10-4 Paseo would use the term necessarily but it’s so the roofs of what they do physically I think it is I who comes up the stuff of body is sending of the Kundalini to the to the Hyatt chakras and the the cancellation of the sahasra the crown chakra to a blazing light of Illumination which brings samadhi Springs Awakening now that’s kind of Awakening DDD surrounded by Westin spiritual seekers in Saint confirm this through that spiritual healing and animals and scientific techniques of measuring body radiation stuff seemed to confirm this so we’re surrounded by not what you feel I’m putting most of its dormancy snow activate it’s not the way it’s kind of unconscious Freud and Jung put it on the train superconsciousness inventions his concept of the egg diagram which is a symbol of how the transpersonal self then Inspire list of demanding self you know which is at the top of the crown of the knowledge of wholeness samanti McKendree my chest Emoji in Sanskrit is simply comes from the same root the same same as I didn’t means when the Mind instead of looking at differentiation and everything’s different it makes it realize that everything is a Divine Unity of one this everything’s the same you know Muslims Jews Christians Buddhists Hindus boxes safety the same one from the samadhi Consciousness perspective that’s what we treat everyone with equal love compassion and and Magnum in and say goodnight now that’s that’s on the condition of Consciousness that’s what we really should be some of the scripture say be descended from galt’s in advance does a whole kind of tradition that we are actually Gold’s on earth and the great sages of the beta times like yudhistira it was said of him that when he told me you have to speak to now she can’t touch the ground you know he was at which is either a metaphor or something that these Sears can do anyway this is an awesome history account account the whole thing I’m one thing that’s very interesting because I’m free scholarship religion is to trace the history and many inches of a spadix is the origins of country philosophy metaphysics lie about time and meditation practices in someone that they become formalized in Hinduism with with them push and Johnny and I thought yoga practitioners pranayama insulting work were invented or discovered at that time in in prehistory right yogurt is is a form tax in Contra theft in Indian culture which includes the monster the body and the mind and soul in a hominid means reuniting yogur is opposite the sun square foot to reunite the Soul Essence with its Divine source you don’t have to leave the body anti to do that did the point attend roach is a very radical concept is that you can attain on this season’s and God Consciousness and wisdom in this lifetime in this party. All I do is the Hindu I’m sending reincarnation Cycles is that it takes an immense time to finally come home to to where we’ve been on the loan which is our Eternal Soul nature I’m becoming very long journey sometimes life off the life of the life we got lost and trapped in. Comic patents which we may be, can I also three Roman thinking time she would say it’s always a metaphysical misunderstanding that lies at the root of suffering and the job of the yogiyo the Teatro fluster is to untangle that is not a misconception in the student or the aspirin until they themselves Beach their own freedom of knowledge in Greek Enlighten Alaska license which means untangling on loosening since it’s the least thing of adults with Tide okay so that’s that’s what the Hindus which I am not became Hinduism right which is a silhouette it doesn’t exist in Sanskrit that meant a lot. It was supposed to come with Ninja and Colby people Hindus from the river Indus the time Hinduism wasn’t used it with snacks and Dawn by was the Eternal truth okay fast forward abyss and further off in another part of the Himalayas in Lumbini in what is now in the pool I’m in the second plan that was born a prince Siddhartha Gautama who was raised in in the noble traditions of his are Socratic full baths and was being trained to become the next Prince of Columbus Zoo he was struck by the bug of seeking for ultimate wisdom and truth and had a kind of heroic mindset like many great Kings and princes in history that he really wants to save his people not just loading of the man having a nice banquet some things but actually finding the ultimate Reese’s know how to reform and redeem people’s sufferings which is an incredibly Noble aspiration okay so then the young man said housing and studied in the forest with many great sages who who was the local Hindu sages base to tried everything fasting chanting standing on one leg in a May 16th at parties till it was a young man cataumet Winton study with them for many years learning from each and turn Until you realize it may seem none of them actually had the secret they didn’t I mean maybe he just makes a leading yeah actually had the samadhi experience that they can transfer it to him they didn’t know enough he was obviously quite a wise man of few months of questions and he then had his own experience of Enlightenment to samadhi of Awakening under a tree and I’m putting two to I’m in which she realized I can calculable holistic knowledge that comes when the crown chakras awake and from then was will have enough can you transmit this how can you speak about this it’s beyond any given language it’s comes from the same place as the source of Mind itself a sociable languages how can anyone language transmit this so but anyway after few days he thought he’d try and of course and began his teaching career and he was from 10 – the puta mean in the awakened one the unlikely one and he transmitted through summons and informal disco seasoned instructions. Particular practices and sound to do in BRAC forms of yogurt affect medication which is which is focusing Consciousness and learning to transcend the Spheres of temporal whoa back to this new phonics state is he cool with it now the teachings that were what is Anna’s got two phones risk of esoteric Buddhism which is the practices the work of the signing of the everyday life the discipline of Anaya and then it’s going to see satiric form which is the wisdom teachings to put a transmission transmission play some some Cycles was so Advanced they can actually pick up on those thoughts just as I recounted the story of the Hindu Guru being able to use telepathy now so it was a nice time since I put a like mice transmit to the Olsson Associates of the bubonic stage and some of his disciples and friends like Ann and the cost is tradition apparently was was transmitted in the famous flower sermon which was a sign of just School somebody just held a flower now what is 10 trick Forbes originates in tires that the British tantric tradition is that there was a Maurice at Eric teaching that put a transmitted from mind to mind which which concerns the the the structure of the universe and the purpose of human existence of the future Destiny of the soul but it wouldn’t talk and discuss about ultimates God God’s Soul reincarnation self he he was he was a bit pedantic actually in his teachings Nollywood the four noble truths the Eightfold Path now repeat off to me you know there is a cause of suffering there is a solution say excetera excetera is all you know quite basic stuff very important but nevertheless quite basic and Buddhist teachings I was right next to repeat you know simple phrases again and again and again where’s the thing for his more advanced disciples he kept the more profound stuff and often it was done without words and so then you go to tradition developing I’m off to put his death and after a show calf founded Buddhism as a kind of the major religion of Northern India I’m couple hundred years off to put a tide it became very very sheex to to to become Buddhist cuz Ashoka the Emperor of Northern India had converted from a Woolite state trapeze. I’m also influence by the Giants as well I’m so modest use of founded the Sangha developed great libraries great sense of scholarship like nalanda which became a huge when I State University in Bangor until Shyla which was another great University Montessori complex in what is now Pakistan even in a on the on the route I kind of stopped I meet these supposed love that text they studied and they began to write 10 trick but it’s time for text as well a lineage has developed whereby particular but his stages it was felt and reach the highest enlightenment and entertained on the simplest to holistic Consciousness right now it’s not everyday not not your average Joe being policeman gets there and some actually think will they called that because they got together in lifetime’s in my fund and the whole High Rock you think it’s in yeah but you know even if he says he he when he hasn’t gone for a little month is the 10th root symbol radical they would like the Mystic secret agents for the dominant wisdom you know you’re not allowed to say that to the turn tricks or kind of innocence marginalised for mainstream put some some extent and and frequented the woods and and even the Charnel grounds that The Cremation places because that was a really strong place you could confront temporality in death so they took to do in the meditation in in Washington corpses and stuff dead then develop this heroic the mosquitoes they be cold this this aerobic troop of a realized beings at that time but isn’t it reached nirvana I reach Enlightenment lead in the potty I’m tilted the the grace Saints the great Mystic achievements and lineage then comes down and then what happens is that the people of Tibet Golden Krust in Buddhism and they sent missionaries to ask for help my son Bolivar he was from kind of Northern Pakistan to actually come to Tibetan teach Buddhism to the Tibetan people’s was one of these since she was a 1040 shop he hit a chain. Cosmic Consciousness if you want I’m he was also scholar and and he was a product or phase universities in Northern India Which Wich study of astrology and metaphysics and epistemology and Physiology a proper sentence of real Line Is It Anyway he was he was he was given a consult he signed a contract extension without without the right consoles and woman was was was proposed as his consort and they began very strong wisdom if a great love affair in which they I was transferred it to her life of the East Church teachings they spend a lot of time in caves together he entered legendary in spash he struggled with the Demons of the phone from using and I’d introduce Township 02722 badge this there’s wonderful legends about his life, some Bob left teachings which were too advanced for the Tibetans about time just began the journey put it on the neighbor coming out of a kind of shamanistic world in which they were working the demons to get to that Consciousness level I mean I didn’t think having some Papa would have disparaged the shamanic traditions because 10 for itself comes to some extent from them but I think that he would have felt that some of the elements of fear that exist in the in the in the the Primal kind of shamanic world the nation’s the struggling with with an a with the gala in the enemy demonic forces I think that was that was transmuted intended Buddhism into coming from a place that had the love and compassion which as we put himself in the light of his Enlightenment transmits the arrows of the devil Mara into flowers I need statistics for the parts of the moral history of the white humankind if you want to come to to that represent Stars. Transformation to a world a new world of love and compassion similar in some ways to Christianity coming to say Britain in the county Wild the story of Thomas and Barbie continues and the teachings that were left with two profound people about time it is sad in tibetan tantric for is that he left them as mind residues can Tums which were left in secret places around Sebastian caves in particular Bally’s embedded in a rock even in a tree or a while and end these would literally imprinted by his mind on the place and then could be read later hundreds of years later by someone who choose to it and this is an extraordinary story to look at this academic in scientific that you know if if parapsychologist now reconcile apathy does exist which I pretty much proved Chevy transmissions in song yes they can happen we don’t know how they happen but they do happen well can you can you actually in bed forts in a Place Minot if you need some Lefty mind-to-mind why does time have to get get a problem if seems to be severe evidence for precognition exists people can understand the past when it’s still the future and vice-versa that you know we can jump about past and future and present there’s no at a certain level of a machine Consciousness you can choose where you dip down into the mine stream if the universe is a player continue mindstream this time she teaches then once she got off into the APA reaches the mainstreaming courage and you’re traveling faster than light and don’t forget we know from Einstein that it’s the speed of light that produces the visible world of time and space that we know I keep trying to send the restrictions the speed of light go to the speed of fools you can you can dip into anytime you want and I think that’s what these people would doing and I think someone, some Baba imprinted in a row core cable second each day with enlightened vibration resonating in that space and could be picked up later by an issue or an aspirin in the state of devotion I’m not stats on the Run many dozens of reports of Tibetans light to finding these teachings of Peppa Peppa sumbala a tradition of the old skools Tibetan Buddhism right which was much later reform by the Yellow Hat’s the girl look Papa the old school worship the original tantric teachings of the old school and they argue. Just as the Hindu Tantra Salon cute that that you can obtain the highest nirvana in solitude you can go into States Of Consciousness and blessed meditation unite and reach you can travel around the universe you can do time travel you can fly ineffective yeah I promise I was supposed said he could fly out of Body Experience physical buddy levitating that’s my view so yeah you can do a lot but if you want to ground that if you want to actualize that in order to link between heaven and yes time teaches you how to go to heaven you can fly with the city’s but can you go to the shops and get some bread and milk you know and talk to the local people then it’s going to die a house is a teaching you’ve got to be able to live in the world as well as transcend well so the 10 try you can turn it on its head it’s about it’s about the transcendental coming into the world as well coming into the tension taking full becoming a human good night that’s the whole nation in Hinduism of the avatar the avatars that is the God’s grace descending Into the Wild enchantra the mass city is is is the Buddhist Christ descending into the world it’s that new vonyc Force coming into samsara and if the reason that bridge built then both worlds side in at the Saints and the niceties love this while they like visiting it rude to visiting hours at crucifies and likewise we humans need to be able to know that there is another world and it’s going to be okay so we don’t have to compete Heaven’s big enough for all of us cuz you’re a Muslim and Jew or Christian going to have to fight and kill each other so important and how one of the ways it can be done is through relationship rice through building the tension of relationship and between male and female that the twin embodiments of Shiva shack TV innocence incarnations itself the princess of bifurcation the unity becoming the two which makes a trinity and and the male females working together conjoining and partnership in sacred partnership in 10 Short Pump ship is the vehicle for the Bridge Building between the transcendental world in the mundane world answered the whole idea of sacred sexuality is it the Russe at entry practice as adamek practice I mean all religions accessing the sacred apart from maybe one or two I’ve known religions of sites it’s an unhealthy or unclean or something most religions realize that sex is Sacramento in in Christianity Sacrament and this is why they celebrate with marriage and big festivals and parties in Judaism it’s the same the Soha kabbalistic text has passages about in a female aspects of the gold hat Pokemon Bina what goes on in tentra is is the affirmation of the World by the transcendental in a business is the eternals on his question in all religions ophiologist we struggled with yes there is a chance that the world and is demanding what what’s the relationship is it also makes people realize there’s something not quite right with the mundane world people died the Spain people lie cheat and steal you know so most religions somehow try and try and renovate the ethical behavior of people in the mundane world in the lights of the trance Festival transcendental well that’s the point of prophets and seers and say that’s the point of Revelations of God in history right now so that’s that relationship with the two is is is the crucial knob Froggy Went in origin and over to just practice in according to Tantra the relationship is one of love I’m one of mutual affirmation the mundane world is a creational play O Lela of the Divine world it’s it’s it’s a wonderful party the gods are having a 6 and it’s meant to be a blissful and delightful and CPAP experience unfortunately it’s like a party this goes slightly out of hand and you know you see them on Facebook you have a Facebook party and lots of people turn out and smashed the place when the parents are the kids that are on the planet realize how we should be treating The Witch’s with reverence as as the home of the Cults and so what happens is is the teachers of the Punnett being a Buddhist Hindus Christians Druids whatever you want to call it doesn’t matter they use different names in different places sufis Muslims Catalyst same tradition they would each just basically try and get the kids to behave and see now about the fundamental principle on which that’s premise is that there is a contract to Covenant of compassionate love between the transcendental well and the mundane world to put the gold so loved the world that he constantly sends down in a Messengers Alliance Plumbing Sons and Daughters right through sex that is how Spirit works the miracle of manifestation and neither is a tradition tent roof of the possibility of manifestation of a body shorty from mine levels which is a bit like Christ’s Resurrection appearances in song I mean there is I think there’s enough evidence in the literature of the Saturn time sheet for that perhaps some initiates can rise up to certain levels where their bodies can internalize there is people like Babaji another special but that’s that’s extremely Advanced Ultra practicable in the world as we are at the moment I’m so safe for most people it’s the experience of section that is the cusp Alinco Bridge moment between the mundane in the transcendental experience falling in love with being in love expressing that love physically is an extremely powerful feeling involving the 40 the emotion that the spiritual matron song and cancel that 4 works with that recognizing that is the sacred full commission transcendental in the mundane into into link and so what is tantric practitioners the old school of which, son Bible was the Exemplar I’m in the Trenton contacts are others before him which would Embrace sexual ecstasy as a vehicle to Enlightenment which means the outer body experience the rain by Buddy excetera and consults to yes it’s okay I was very interesting woman history of religions cuz we have her will to biography she wrote a story down into Baton and it’s one of the first or tomography by practicing female mistake in the history of man’s religions she describes what it was like being without some Papa and I’m the awesome adventures they had this apparently 11 tradition I think it’s true they want I’m in a cave some months exploring each other in the Mysteries and the effect was so awesome on how passionately that when having somebody went off you have to go visit about him do some work during some demons she tries to stay in the cave meditate for like 3 months cuz she was just so like unless she wants to stay in that state and she writes this and Whores hog for you and this is an amazing woman and one of the great Saints of not just put his literature but world literature must have been many others like her because as a recent American feminist to store in the religions Scola has has written a wonderful book compassionate Enlightenment and what she’s explained and explored the history of 10 I’m not just bought in the tub and then we’ll send the North Indian tradition sahasra another great women Mystics we know practiced this kind of passionate ecstasy in which sexuality was seeing some vehicle towards Enlightenment nose a hindrance to it I think Sally and history Regents many men and some women have seen sexuality is something I’m actually not to be tempered with which we control fiercely police with marriage rules and regs it’s on it’s on enchantra it’s seen as something so sacred that it’s has to be free as to be Beyond you can’t have rules and regs about this it’s too profound okay and it’s out at Haas a mystical experience and it’s it’s The Reawakening renewal of the Covenant between the transcendental in the Monday night to today right it was towed through mudra three practices through through to mind only Transmissions it was through meditation beat the bomb has the old school told this to that students in in monastic contacts milarepa to through poetry as he left about from Peak to peak in the Himalayas I’m in love with Nirvana so much that he made up some of the world’s most incredible poetry he’s like the room if to that and it survived the miracle of tantric Buddhism in Tibet is it survived until the present time is a direct lineage of this stuff because that was how to get to very few people caught the Muslim armies will they conquered more than India and tragically destroyed text Sheila and and Lando right monasteries Libras went up in Flames they miss Mystic what the police Township something for devil worshiper and I’m having lost some of that uses chart lineage that would come down from Hemet they kind of misunderstood it was a tragic miscommunication and they bundle of the manuscripts they store the fly business often they kill died in the box and but fortunately a couple of generations of central to before The Invasion pretty much the whole law to being taken to the bye bye teams of skull has sent by to bad who who preserve those manuscripts so we have most of what malandrin text Sheila hide in the monasteries of tobacco as a treasured its patents fell in love with that reporter someday they they went to town on that she night I need they developed this incredible civilization in in in the highest Plateau on the planet and it was preserved for for millennia and because here I just didn’t want to go out text too far there’s nothing apart from some yak about that they didn’t bother thank God Is Right until tragically the Chinese in the 1950s did invite you turn in the 1960s did the cultural revolution and until another monastic burning load stuff on top but fortunately again that mean another Exile. I love her come-out bringing his wagon trains of sacred precious writings and llamas used to struggle of crosses some of them still to touching that precious texting things and I belong is it come out around that same time Chucky on true but one of the craziest Tibetan tantric teachings of the twentieth century came to Britain and he was a high Lama with with with this Township knows I’m talking about and he went and rode this is human Oxford University he said if I’m going to seriously bring this to that and wisdom to the West I have to understand how the West things I have to study philosophy and stuff and also what she did to bring it mine he then went and set up Sammy Lane Munster in Scotland which is one of the biggest Buddhist monasteries in in in Europe which continues to the state the current time you know that Mama Street Lama yeshe continues to practice these these Traditions song said that they continue to survive. I mean on Match many of these different person and talk to them so what I’m saying is not just from books it’s from experience it’s from lived experience for instance, yes I did. Treats on the Island Coney Island off the coast of Scotland in which you go into a meditation station in 40 days and 40 nights Mauston what it was like I said well after while you lose all distinctions between sleeping and being awake between between dark and light 9 nice and day you interest I took navanick Continuum consciousness you transcend time and and your mind then expose the universe it’s that packs a perfect trick or would like basically see so the dates it’s it’s wonderful it’s miraculously survived and we are very blessed in this country in Britain to have that mistreat to have all the schools teaching the other people teaching different aspects of whiplash though such a half you know the Hindu tradition which survived in spite of the Muslim conquest and in many ways the British acting deserve it because they some people Grumble that the British began India for a couple of centuries we did keep a bit of water on and we also didn’t know if a lot of scholarship and people are swimming Giants learn Sanskrit discovered the links to Greek and Latin invented the concept into European Linguistics and we wouldn’t know so much of what we do know about time to wear it not for the British Scholars of throw a jacket size account cast from someone that looked through the scripts and song Sir John Woodroffe it was British claim Administration the Raj again another time he published as much as he could be right folks on at the seven pounds on that mean many British pounds of religion. Deeply into this stuff and there’s a huge literature which which is come out the British old is the range resting Sunny just come out it was British civil servants in a minute straight to see ReDiscover the holy places of Buddhism they’ve been welding the Gratitude and they went over grind jungle Elias in the pool I know it in India and it was British Scholars and administration lawyers and judges see what they’re interested in the list and went and rediscovered places like so and of course say that. Transmission through the British Raj to 2 in a manuscript coming to the British line dance on his crazy the whole traditional Oriental studies in sunglasses Exemplar institution where they study time for the high level of academic knowledge and those texts being preserved talk to bed the British Library whatever Dolphins playing tonight so there is a traditional Scottish scholarly study of country biking speed Hindu or Buddhist at Stats alive and well and 07 India and indeed has been translated to French a Buddhist Jane scholar who was involved with the project to rebuild the University of nalanda there is actually a project. I think it’s GoFundMe they’ve got a few buildings together in the sight of the original Lando and they’re trying to read read read homes the university basically and good luck to them today it’s also in in the Westmore has a practice some people who’ve had those initiator experiences see if it worked with but it’s time trap and and Hindu Tantra now run workshops and cool-season and teach the experience which is found I’m not running just a little kind of petitions people at your show tradition he was a kind of mavyret time for teacher in fact more from a Jane lineage then put us but he was an omnivore he started to hold which is our pleasure and Delight in the 20th 21st century we can do that for the first time since we’re coming to a place of global wisdom I mean another scholar practitioner is Nick Douglas he’s written a wonderful History of Time truck dating it back to the Ice Age agency isn’t Himalayas and of course these ideas came into Weston Lisa Terra traditions of the Golden Dawn and and the fella might traditions and another’s the question that arises just some final force that is there a West increments temperature if that’s what episode what would what we do in the west Will Young discovered that affect the 10 for traditions of Christian you’re a locked into alchemical this kills its mate that stuff the tantric practices survived they written in codified in symbolic form because these are dangerous times you be done as a heretic but they rule Center in the in the Primal primary religions of Europe I think the very word Druid for instance is related to the Tantra Judas to see who sees the dhamma sees the truth and I think it’s absolutely suck butt in the Celtic world The Druids understood exactly the same kind of metaphysics that the tantric practitioners didn’t know they would like the same people living in different geographical locations and has come down to The Croods teachings written down and in monastic schools in an island and miles and song about that Pantheon of deities about the waking the fundamental energies about the powers of Clairvoyance about that down the standing of the link between the universes so I think you could say that the Celtic Russian Tundra and I think that’s the same is true in Galva traditions of European culture in the in Scandinavian Norse Germanic Anglo-Saxon the world the Odin Mysteries and song sizes that the mystery of the Rings DVD several times if you look into them there about affirming Wells the Gold’s even the concept of the Rainbow Bridge transcon song it’s like an encoding in in mythological form of what time should prostitution is what we’re exploring experientially I would say the same in ancient Greece and its range resting that time heroes Camus the sacred marriage was was seen as the quintessence of the mysteries of ancient Greek culture you went to the mystery schools you studied you learned and if you would like you experience the heroes Camus which was which was the sacred Union of Zeus and Hera the god in the goddess which I’m delay Greek civilization I need a practitioner of the Mysteries in a sense participation Heroes, so sacred marriage and the Greeks understood the power and sexy as something arras was divine was Plato explained but it but in the concept of what happens in the Greek flashing Tundra is that is that the purely physical erupted love is sublimated is is worked into a higher mystical of Aphrodite urania which is what we go to Tonic love and that. Transmutation I would say is is equivalent to what rhymes with some cells with doing and I apply to a managed to get to the Himalayas met some of these but it’s time lyrics and song I’m he live just to piss off the butt of so it’s possible I’m sure they would have got on best best friends and they knew about Enlightenment he talks about license he talks about in the vision of the cave when you come out of the darkness and you see the pendant light it’s the same vision and heels it talks in the middle of the end of the Republic about life after death it’s a report of a near-death experience which is exactly the same as in the Indian Hindu Buddhist to the World Systems so I think you know we have the same in philosophy actually Plato’s The Great Link in the chain of the philosophical transmission I think it’s the same in Pythagorean metaphysics I think Pythagoras in his switches to 10 dots that make an equilateral triangle which is an issuance have to swear by that is a diagram in fact one of the forms that tend to express itself throughout through the mental exposed by Young and the young I mean that’s the sacred you and me and say all the animals he has his disciples of sworn to secrecy so none of this what’s was Chad’s publicly but it was it was the absence of phosphate the love of wisdom what is that but what I’m talking about it’s that it’s that guy into the Mysteries at the farming the beauties of the mundane and daring to linkage so that attract is tells the story of how the one becomes two which in turn becomes three three dots the Trinity the triangle which in time become a fool the Crotona see the square and under is 10 dots some of the entirety of creation I thought were supposed to learn mathematics and he was able to explain this math magic trick with a Hindu mimes doing the same the great Hindu man mathematicians have discovered the idea of the zero the cycle which is incredibly important because that came from their experience of the Void shunyata it is one key idea that that you need to get hold of can understand time for its conception me on to this entire visible manifestation is emptiness but the internet’s is the oldest is the Divine goddess herself is the Bliss right now that conception you know you can imagine some great 10 traits of a scholar coming up with this idea my God I’m going to revolutionize Matt’s I’m going to stick his ear of it that’s that’s more or less how it happened antivirus is reputed to have gone to India it’s very very interesting this is a field Peter Kingsley and all the people of recess she rides a Wonderful Life of his Peter King deals to read a fantastic but the top places wisdom about Parmenides he’s a kind of Weston philosophical Butterfinger like Shankar who emphasized the night for being right so that would be the one known big is is the 0 and it’s the relationship between the two will the two of the male and female symbols the one in the zero what she put them together they make 10 night which is which is infinity so say we haven’t seen the last this is what I’m trying to say and I mean I’m not going to get into pass details you can you can work it out for yourself but it’s that it’s magical where is it in Christianity but I do I think it’s I think it’s in the tradition at its best I think it’s in Christ affirmation of life is turning water into wine at the wedding in Cana is love of the female his his effectively turned relationship with Mary Magdalene Christ was not approved he was not against this world what he was doing was bridging called the infinite Eternal into this well that’s the whole point of the Incarnation in a sense he’s the avatar for the West he is to come see what tension practitioner if you the problem is the names why do we have to pull it Christianity or something that’s let some let’s let’s the firm in silence learn Hearts do Unity undermine movies and then hopefully we can attain peace on the Spanish I’d also say it’s in Islam as well because notwithstanding mad General smash country temples in India self would have understood and resume sheets and everything I’ve been saying today I think Muhammad was himself on the phone said she has he didn’t have the conceptual Seafood City of Auburn academic retrain mind he didn’t he didn’t never heard of Plato probably never knew Greek philosophy he was he was a family you know desert Bedouin huge spiritual experiential wisdom in his cave what’s the Caillou for the place where attention cuz what’s he getting these channeling messages from from from Ally the infinite deal with boys and if you I mean Sunday future Scholars will have to go through the Koran re chronologize is on tangled web do what the Bible had done Foothill High criticism find which bits what kind of added later to buy committees which fits what time that would insult I think you’ll find this concept of surrender submission to the absolute is it is a precondition for any of them to town trap everything I’ve talked about you can’t even get to the first base of it unless you surrender to God you have to you have to immerse yourself in the boys and say I’m nothing I know nothing I’m ignorant that was Socrates point I know nothing I’ve been just ask that at that point gold the gold Spirit if you lucky might give you a glimpse of the precondition for any hot for the heist in Islamic school Sufism many inches you have the understanding of the bluff it you have the link between male and female Affirmed anybody Herbie’s teachings Andrea Mason all the great Seafood space account and on that Assisted Living tradition unite to fight you and I’ve done this kind of could stop tomorrow if we can have a seminar on time for some family on Buddha statues built by tantric Buddhist Afghanistan vs Central country produce in Paterson public I need to know we can sit down with the Muslim Scholars the British scholars in add Representatives different solutions and as it was surrendering you I think to remake that cousin of the anschluss each of us individually owned Canada now needs to resend a new and and and Camilla put the guns away countries it doesn’t really like Finance ultimately it’s a piece lineage finances is possible life okay and it’s positive manifestation and tantrix traditionally used to eat meat in a sacred ritual sometimes it it Tundra is wise enough to know that death is not necessarily the tragedy that everybody thinks it’s just two transportation to form and even the Christian Mast sacraments is an enactment of that tension tonnage to death in life orange connected and I’ll cavemen ancestors used the sacraments of meat to survive the long winters of the Ice Age it was a sacred vehicle just as for the American Indian I think there’s a realist about here but what he did to was absolutely minimize. Violence it’s about compassion say just as the American Indian Hunter when he kills the Buffalo he use the tool he uses the skin of the bones the music keeps him alive makes his toes makes his Tepee and you give thanks to great spirit for the I’m so the tantric accepts life gives thanks for the life process I’m an honest soul stirrers and it stopped. Reverence that That’s essential. You know the other thing of the township stood in their rituals was was used in Hebron since you know why does she fight tentrix use use cannabis is a sacral sacral to achieve sacred Consciousness just as interested parents do I did indeed in India still it’s it’s legal for shy by 10 tricks that are allowed to use that sack with come inside for me so those things kind of forms of accessing ecstasy as seen as supplemental add-ons I didn’t think you need them but I think some people it helps and I think I’d be very interesting if if the West experiment with liberalising some of its rules and regs on on ecstasy in in the generic sense and instead of putting people in prison for wanting to explore their Consciousness actually gave them learning and teaching and education and stop being kind and unlicensed you can access this stuff along with the appropriate wisdom mornings not helpful things but was Des Moines you know you might die if you can see the stuff that’s your choice that’s not 270 take x amount in which case you might go to have a brief play be prepared. So I mean I mean cancel that 4 would have should we say that we just finished with a condolence the political agenda on the pond at the moment it’s not like reading of the planet it’s about reconnecting with our primordial roots it’s about opposing and and re-education to rival rampant monotheism so they destroying this planet people with a very small idea of God and we got access to weapon power are ruining this planet for the rest of us I didn’t think the gods a happy and I think that’s why this Crock-Pot if you have a tall is currently on this planet the living Saints and sages instead of teaching this wisdom and I think it’s because guess that’s being Italian Delight in others being this being assertive from too many temples of being done to watch knowledge is being suppressed too much he’s too turnt wisdom has been suppressed too many think has to be mounted on a still being monitored you know you properly without freedom of thought freedom of experience is not enough freedom and Chandra simply radical Enlightenment and and peace as it’s always been did you look for the Yellow Hat’s the Dalai Lama says you don’t need an actual physical pump you didn’t need to engage an actual sexual practices you can remain celibate and just imagine it what they do is they imagine that sacred consoles and they do have somebody country practices but they don’t actually need a living life customers fine this was the I drove song copper you lived in Fulton Centre who was it was a very wise practitioner but I think icing Buddhism tantric Buddhism is still being too bad today on the Chinese wouldn’t be running the place if they capture the old school teachings I think what time is somebody brought in the most was a total Devotion to the land and that included The Women fake you called cut yourself off from womankind totally and I’m still a fan of life that was promised almost teaching that was the name of his teacher with with the Yellow Hat I mean this is the dear old Tylenol Mannino’s is sort of holding on in dharmasala not sure if he wants another Incarnation you know it’s like what kind of a commitment is that and this is this is something the pension of in Tibetan Buddhism pendulums the secret in ahead and he was more from the old school teachings it’s raining dressing to the West is supposed to admit that then pension lump she made it to she gets a I didn’t see a sophical lord there’s a whole ancient wisdom library on the she gets a written in ancient texts tonight from ancient ancient times so I’m just to say just in one of these charts sources just just a sprain dressing it is sad that he was The Reincarnation of tongue couple making out for what he thought I suspend judgment but in my work is a TransPass the historian what I’m trying to resolve critical and rationally and I could Emich me about these kind of mystical States and observations the things that actually asked questions about Princeton’s Reincarnation of Dynamics in history just want Stine Rasta pouch in the, lectures you know it’s a bit behind the times in catching up with the web that actually needed on the planet so that’s why it’s it’s a delight to go to talk about say the history of tension with you because it gives a knife review from a TransPass in perspective what’s actually going on thank you for listening to the podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or team up and I can’t repent. 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