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Seeding the Transapocalyptic Cypherpunk Cryptopia with Vin Armani TPP275

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In this episode I’m joined by Vin Armani for another epic dialog about the transformative intersections of bitcoin, crypto-anarchy, crypto-savagery, state craft, ecology, permaculture, shamanism, futurism, and much more

Please visit Vin’s website at https://vinarmani.com/

About Vin:

Vin Armani is a philosopher, serial tech entrepreneur, and CryptoSavage. He is the host of The Vin Armani Show on Activist Post. In addition to being an author and speaker, he has made his living as a television star, film producer, high-end male escort, software developer, art gallerist, pirate radio station operator, DJ, music producer, and motorcycle courier. He studied Philosophy at Howard University.

My Non Verbatim Show Notes

been preparing for a long time

very weird experience

conspiracy theorists, broader understanding of the shift to come

people’s who’s eyes have been open for more than half a century

orwell, we’re in an orwellian moment, 1984 was a prophecy

wrote in 1948, doesn’t mention year in the book, publisher, 1984

4 years ago, youtube, playlists, series called ascendent project, 2016

right before vin armani show

thesis of presentation, 8 hours

announcement that the shift is here, way I believe, what will look like, based upon, teaching of the human social cycle, from Indian guru, Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar

Ananda Marga

book series, spoken word, transcribed

work that affected me profoundly, got a hold of from adherents from group

progressive utilization theory

described, the human social cycle

the indian caste system, 4 varnas

vaisya

brahmin

ksatriya

sudra

description of energies within human cycle, influence world in different way every human has energies moving through, dominant in a person, in eras

eras move in a cycle from peasant, to warrior, rises as chief, utilize will and strength as hero, becomes a king

eternal game of paper scissor rock

thinker energy dominates the king, church, priests, dominant

corruption of church comes through money

large cycles through history

within those cycles small cycles

within each of us have cycles

ideas moved into the west

notice, that’s the same 4 energies of the tarot, suits of the tarot, club, sword, chalice, cup, pentacle, coin

cards, clubs, spades, hearts blood of christ, diamond, instead of coin

what he had presented was idea that we had moved through the commoner time, thinker time, through warrior time, the great kings, through the thinker time, enlightenment, into his time writing in 70s emergence of vaisya age corporations, banks, beasts,

the corpus christi, the body of christ being the church, thinker time, corporation, legal persons corporate entities, banks, vaisya age

bitcion, crypto currency, vegas, solidified vaisya coming to full throat, it was going to tip over the top from golden age to corrupt age, coming very soon

what emerges from out of that on the wheel, starts over, grand reset back to sudra, commoner, state of nature, little specialization, little centralization, decentralized, generalized

daniel quinn, ishmael books, fantastic, 100% survival value, ancestors 12 year old, indigenous society, could drop in middle of environment and they would survival, had all skills of entire culture, male or female, hunt fish, build home, start a fire, make clothes, herbs, poison

sings weather would change

all these things they knew before adult

very decentralized,

from self sufficiency to efficiency

path, escathon, crescendo, time is speeding up terrence mckenna

end moment

all of the signs, its a virus

everyone has become the enemy, invisible, everyone is enemy

goes to say it is the vaisya energy recognizing the rise of sudra energy being very scared

wondered, 20 years ago discovered this thought, working with it, through this time, what does that look like, 2000 I see we’re in vaisya age, corporate, banking business age, what does it look like, before bitcoin,

what does that even look like, communism, socialism, what does it even look like that it would fracture back down into decentralized commoner, 100% survival value

kernal of new rebirth of age, bitcoin is a harbinger, one of many tools, cryptography, incredible useful, self sufficiency in general

more people, not agriculture by nature, figuring out how to be self sufficient, protein produce, energy, electricity

been called preppers, out there conspiracy theorist, already shutting off food supply shutting off money, choice people dwindle

those who have figured out how to fully imbrace the sudra nature, will rise

old nature in decline, new era on it’s way up

TP: meek shall inherit the earth

VA: wheel turning at any given time what is rising is always the meek

in sudra age, hero rising is the meek, hero isn’t the king, it’s the audacious boy

at the time of the kings, when king fully risen the advisor, the priest the thinker is not the prime minister he’s a boy who interprets dream whose in cell

pharoah relied on boy, that’s the meek

time of kings, napoleonic wars, can’t feed army, can’t get right kind of gold coins, london, looking for solutions, smuggler of gold times, rothchild family, get right coins, meek businessman, grey market, smuggling gold, credit schemes, a hustler, reach out to him

the meek the inherit the earth, now is the time for that again

TP: inner geek, crypto math computer science, geek will inherit the earth

VA: look at the archetype of the geek within the vaisya let’s say aesthetic, love vegas, complete shut down vaisya aesthetic, giant companies all about literally money, play with those cards, gold, hotels, nothing but money and the love of money, as opposed to silicon valley, holding all power, multibillionaires running companies, zuckerberg, wearing what he wears, they wouldn’t let him in a club in a vegas, wouldn’t let him in, bezos same thing, old pictures of bezos, those guys are the cross over of the really the vaisya creating sudra products, rise of social media, rise of twitter

hash tag movements, metoo, emergence of sudra, hieararchy flattening platforms , twitter account doesn’t have more features than prez, same app, same with facebook flattens hiearchy, emergence of decentralized consensus based organizational

hash tags started taking down the most powerful men in the world

what is a hashtag, it doesn’t even exist

exists purely as a psychological concept

not even like that hash tag is an option within twitter or facebook itself

TP: viral videos, age of virus, hashtag, snippet of genetic dna, replicates in cell of human mind, replicates through internet, just characters, abstracted, don’t have eyes, don’tknow what they’re doing, regenerating with retweets, as above so below, cyberdelic mind fuck

VA: in age of virus, of course it’s a virus how could it not be, network based organization versus hierarchy

interview wtth chris derose, block chain as a matriarchy and role of messiahs, emergence of network, spreading, the new power, to understand how power is organized have to understand the network

what we see going on with response to the corona virus, hiearchy, dealing very poorly with a network based crisis, virus has no hierarchy

TP: just packets

VA: bitcoin network gossip network, viral network, one to many, R naught, signed transaction, propagates to network, epidemological map, transaction copying self into mem pool,

TP: 8% of human dna, residual viral remants,

VA: blockchain is organic model

TP: do you trip on mycellial functionality of the way, don’t know what the science is, fungal hyphea connecting topsoil, trees on either coast send text message through ground

VA: networked, organic movement, organism, hierarchy can’t fight the mechanism, can’t fight organism, not equipped to do it, we developed hierarchy to fight against nature, turns you into one big organism, its very crude, might say, taken to their extreme, what you see in tyranny that is now with us, officially, organism trying to stay alive, imposes even more rigid order, things gotten a little too loose, out of control, desire to track everything, record eveything ultimate order, as opposed to the bitcoin idea of a system being robust in its unordered simplicity, just a system of rules, not working towards any particular end except to keep system going, traditional, sustainable, organic ethos of ancestors, the idea of cultures society, life in general, simply to continue it on to the next generation, not thinking there was some grand purpose

TP: multigenerational, tree stewardship, fabric of culture, indigenous wisdom, terrence mckenna, enter the violet doorway at the end of time, we will be street smart in the ways of demonic materialism and returned home to the family farm in eden, that would be that refreshing, resetting of that grand cycle

VA: got goosebumps, not heard exact quote, love it, beautiful, probably freestyled, so beautiful, god, command of english language, spin poetry almost make you cry, that’s was interesting because one of the insights that drove me to do ascendent project, looking at chapter 3 genesis, serpent, temptation, fall, the birth of sudra age, return to the garden

goosebumps, yeah, return to garden, figuratively and litterally, so interesting, though it was poignant, governer of michigan, prevented walmart from selling seeds

roped off, full racks of seeds roped off with caution tape

non essential items all garden supplies seeds, literally there, the people who are getting photos and videos that’s crazy I can’t be these seeds, saw this starting to happen, I’ve moved family, not ready to dox self, remote island, pretty self sufficient, probably making public in the future where exactly I am, place I see as a return to the garden, but with that same street smartness, it’s not about throwing out technology, dipping out, off grid, why would you give up the wisdom of your ancestors over the past hundreds of years, why give up grid idea, interconnectedness

bitcoin, idea is not to disconnect, idea is to connect peer to peer minus the intermediary, it’s the intermediary that’s the problem

what’s the problem with the seed sales at walmart, problem is its walmart, guaranteed the person the put the seeds in that package, supply of seeds

but neighbor would sell it to you

TP: you can buy plantable produce from the grocery store, front lines of professional food sector, gardener, step up, minimal interactions I’ve had, if you can’t buy seeds or being gouged for prices, 1/3 or produce can be harvested for its vegetable product and then replanted, beets, onions, garlic, potatoes, eat most of it and still plant it, viablle, propagation, deprived of seeds, plant groceries after eat half or more

VA: this is the return to the garden, this knowledge, in moving to where I’m at, interesting thing, culture here, native culture strong, people who are original people very much in control of politics of island, out in morning, there’s all the people still fishing in traditional ways, 50 feet from house, right on beach 4 fisherman, outrigger canoe launched off beach

corruption of outside world, hand outs, desire of tourism, businesses, to pay these folks, to provide money, as a opposed to them sustaining themselves in they way they had, some wisdom gets lost, situation in now, people lost all that really struggling, guy out there fishing, isn’t even trippin, what crisis

its the finding of the resources that are there, even as you said, your grocery store is a garden store, realizing that, the produce section is a garden store, light years ahead

TP: its all kind circling back to another terrence mckenna prophecy, living in prototype of dream of avatars, virtual reality, shrinking your physical foot print on earth. Letting nature regrow around you foraging in wild abundant nature, get kicks and giggles from interacting on line, not needing to fly all over the place,people are already going to wake up tomorrow and be like we can get kicks and giggles touring museums in 3d virtuality, let the wild animals take over the streets, hoped people would voluntarily participate in live simply, easy way or hard way, easy way too late for that

VA: unfortunately everyones gonna be living simply, economic state of the world has changed, consumerism, waste is done as we know it

TP: party’s over

VA: drastic waste in short term, supplies, milk dumped down drain, fields go fallow supply chains broken, body of consumerism dying, variety will be greatly reduced, millenia generation, ability to be satisfied in digital realm to great degree, gen z, they will be able to really, many very happy to have consumerism go away, simplicity, dystopian futurist, 4 walls ceiling, living in closet doesn’t matter virtual universe, william gibson called consensual hallucenation so vast so satifying, won’t matter that your’e living in a tomb, basicallyi entombed

matrix

TP: what if you take that classic scene of neo unplugging in that pod, instead, unplugs consensual connection, p2p network, pops lid on pod, harvest some greens in his garden in hawaii, utopian, people’s matrix, not marxian, peer to peer nature, crypt enabled

VA: mckenna seeing the eschaton, combining multiple aspects, logical progression of series of different streams, at any given time, streams of consciousness, lifestyles, really streams of consciousness evolve on own, music scene, artistic scene, style of tech, physical pursuit, sport, what it looks like 100 years ago, not what it looks like in the future, subculture, two ideals, the return to the garden, plus the high level of interconnectedness, both to extreme combined into one, not the case initially, thesis and anti-thesis, our generation we’ll get one or the other, access in early going, access to consensual hallucenation, dependent on acquiesance to new world order, living in box, universal basic income, money aspect will go away, it’s a prison, you get fed 3 meals a day, same clothes, same style of home, put into matrix, human experience plays out, old vestiges of voting, virtual sports, status hiearchyies

TP: video game simulation, elon musk what happens if mars comes to us and we’re now astronauts on our own planet, people in bubble costumes, logan’s run concept

bitcoin was the birth of the multiplicity, libra hearings was death of singularity

VA: about right, funny in my book self ownership, last section is on the concept I called the crypto savage

the attempt to merge the old order and new order, will be attempted will fail, that’s what libra was, we can have this thing that’s at scale, out there with an established company, no you can not, interesting, congress people speaking positively about bitcoin, good, tech can grow, they don’t fear it at all, to them it can’t be a threat because it can’t organize in the way they understand organization to be, facebook is organized in a way they understand to be a threat, they understand corporations have power, no coporation for bitcoin, no company, no leader, no ceo no country, no structures they recognize as dangerous, just a network of nodes, passing info, storing info viral network, viruses aren’t threats to them, just saw that play out, don’t understand threat profile of virus, don’t understand how to respond to it in a way they don’t kill themselves in the process

what I say is the other side of eschaton, bitcoin can play a role, matrix version is the thesis, bitcoin is the anti-thesis, synthsis, you get both, mckennas idea, post eschaton, new age, restart

escanton, rame together, big bang, big suprise, post escaton, new material, move or what we’re talking about

indviiduals sustaining themselves off grid by necessity if they don’t they’ll be caught up into the web, very hard life

comparatively, to having everything handed to you, hard life to be self sufficient, in terms of knowledge.

Anti thesis, includes bitcoin cryptography, the resources, ability, the supply chains gone, reestablishing new supply chains, not illegal per se, like in 1984, writing in journal, wasn’t illegal, but if caught death sentence,

TP: earn it act

VA: cryptography is gonna be very different, play in their game, cryptography is out the window, telegram, signal gone relatively soon, cryptography as tool, unless you take away math, never take cryptography of out picture

concepts behind public key cryptography, level of computer science wherewithal, access to computer, computers ubiquitous, pgp, illiptical curve algo, library, released, send message on blockchain, post to address, only person with private key of that address could read it, data, message, write on the blockchain, old crypto tech, just sitting there, never be able to get rid of it

approach to crypto now, same as food, gonna have to learn to do it yourself

knowledge is not that hard, coding skills, pass around tools, libraries, minimal coding skills, if you’re a coders have simple libraries sitting around for cryptography, signatures for messages, for encrypting and decrypting files and messages, decentralized networks, get them up, share them around, get them out there, classes of people training people, offering coding classes, urgency hasn’t been there, picking that up again, waited for a while, people interested thought coding was cool, wanted to get a job in software, never viewed it that way, skill of liberty, knowing how to grow a garden, fix your car, change your oil, place like cuba, no important of new cars, parts hard to come by, artistry of keeping car running 70 years

TP: difference between dude and man, when something breaks at dudes house, calls the man to fix it

VA: love that, just perfect, the sudra era, shortest, commoner era, flatting of hierarchy 100% survival value, shortest because heros emerge quickly, dude and man, man is the hero

TP: give shovels to neighbors, agorism,

VA: just the introduction, new world order doesn’t need to be commanded by evil geniouses, global network of communications, perverse incentives, track you in digital life, know everything about you, extend it into physical world, internet of things you’re a thing, move of taking this technology mapping, digital world on physical world and vis-versa, same old incentives, except physical world is a really a hindrence to the movement of digital world and digital powers that be, they don’t want you to leave cyber space, if you leave digital world you’re not an asset to them

that’s the crypto savage, build new peer to peer digital world running parallet to theres

TP goosebumps moment, post cyberpunk, snipes, stallone, dennis leary as crypto savage, only have cybersex, std plagues, don’t shake hands, social distancing, speak profanity, ticket pops out, but would be a crypto/libra wallet,

VA: demolition man, brave new world, aldous huxley, george orwell, great sci fi, is really a study of human nature, that’s what makes it great, technology is just a idea of logical progression, what do we have now, progress this out, almost always dystopian, everything that moves forward, tech, language, physical tool, organizational structure, always moves towards corruption, sci fi, what does this look like when it’s corrupted, used in worst

TP: Craig Wright trying to patent open source software

VA: reason why that’s important, narrative standpoint, crafting a story, in order for their to be a hero’s journey, role of hero, rebirth from out of corruption, have to show corrupt world, without no reason for hero, sci fi, fantasy, lord of the rings, star wars, the reason why those work well as hero’s stories, not limited in degree of corruption, take corruption to fullest, best enemies, best villains, heros journey, rebirth, story of christ is heros journey, ideal of hero, luke skywalker, froto baggins, neo ,same heroic archetype, arise in world completely corrupt, more corrupt it is more heroic their acts

TP be thankful for enemies, petty tyrants, don’t want b list, medicore actors in your life movie, good villains

VA: virus isn’t villain, virus is one ring to rule them all, who holds narrative, how will they use it, state will use narrative one ring to rule them all, not use opportunity to come together, bring people together, crisis how do humans overcome crisis, we come to gether, that’s how we overcome, super power, put aside old greivances, we have a real crisis, how we think, from movies, astroid is coming, or independence day movies aliens, nations of world put aside differences, actually no, that’s not what the state does, state is divide and conquer, social distancing is exact opposite of coming together to solve a problem

the one ring to rule them all, it’s all about how will you be ruled, peer to peer electronic cash system, disintermediation, come together in the network, come together

mask, can’t communicate, 80% nonverbal, can’t see facial expressions all of these things, this is the escaton, thesis is social distance, separate, divide and conquer,

anti-thesis, decentralized, peer to peer self sufficient, 100% survival value

TP protests, counter protests, astro turfing, new, I’m darkish, left social media, trust no one, trust people you already know

VA: protests are stupid if you’re protesting for them to reopen the economy you’ve already lost, protesting without a mask on, useful idiot, they’re in complete control of narrative, protests, we did a poll, majority of people support social distancing, keeping economy closed, propaganda, everybody supports it, maybe I should

protests, astroturfing aside, legitimate protesters, that’s going to fail, the die is cast momentum already there, going down a path, no question about it, no coming back, only thing you can do is take another path

rebellion is not out in the streets, the rebellion is in your garden

TP: peer to peer, bit torrent, permaculture party pack, 10s of gigs, pirated material, compiled videos, documents, audios, bundled in one torrent, how cuba survived peak oil, microcosm of when ussr collapsed, cut off cuba from fossil fuels, retrofit to organic garden, didn’t have chems coming in, modernish case study in not begging, not being juvenile, not to put down spirit and tradition of assembly and free speech, you can belly ache at the man while you’re tearing up the side walk, tear of the intersection, planted and don’t leave, reclaim the space with the last calories you have

VA: thanks for torrent, downloading it, spreading it, again its a virus, peer to peer many to many this is the other path that’s going to be taken, finding those locations, moved to what I believe is one of such locations, people have to find what calls to them and it will call to you, this came out of nowhere, interesting and notable, it had been in the back of my mind, things ramping up, flights cut off, countries cut off, timeline is sped up, tings reopen, opportunity, got out, literally on last plane to island, before cut off from all inbound, the common wealth, from all inbound and outbound traffic of people, not of cargo, not everybody had opportunity, not predicting and following for years as I have, don’ tneed it, if your’e listening to this, things are gonna open back up, tell everybody righ tnow, they’re going to get shut back down, open up for a little while, laset gasp opportunity last chance for many people to make that move, while things are still shut down, look around put energy in that direction, appropriate thing may come to you, may be stay where you’re at, bugging out m ay not be the thing if your social capital is local

famers markets informal economy, may be smartest thing to stay

allies, not just going cold, working contacts for months, had place to stay, people to show around, established, met within few days, opportunity, when it opens up and shuts down again, when it shuts down again its gonna shut down for a long time, because businesses have failed

second wave, governements getting used to it, allows them to print money

some people, not gonna matter where you are, you can be a valuable asset almost anywhere, community gonna need, underground railroad, taking people out of slavery through making them self sufficient, food knowledge, secondary encrypted network, riding on the internet, small separate encrypted network, invisible, running in this encrypted way through same wires

TP: if time get into the play by play of how inept the government stimulus, I can list off the hackers of world, exploiting stimulus check, insecure, poorliy thought out, every permaculture designer, swiss army knife, adapt to any environment, one of the preppers dilemmas, old school stereotypical doomsday peppers, bullets beans bandaids, no way I’m gonna grow a garden, I don’t want the zombies to see what I have and want to take it, paradox, better make beautiful abundant garden, share with neighbors, infect them with gardening meme, get them gardening have them want to protect you with all of their might because you were in a way responsible for their survival, they are your armor, reason to be a gardening prepper, actually help, like yesterday get these systems established

arms race of open source software, hackers developers, steps ahead of government, every use case for crypto elucidated, brought into the fore, clusterfuck, government that takes from you, doesn’t have any rails to give back in an emergency

VA: hacker writ large, orginal idea of term, permaculture is hacker culture, for sure, pick up artist days, panty hacking, its about hacking of the human psychosexual landscape, platform, machine, whatever you want to call it, the hacker is someone who is a voracious consumer and implementer of knowledge and wisdom, platform agnostic, environment independent, able to create a life for themselves whether in social environment, agricultural enviornment, mineraological,l technological, hacker idea, flattened decentralized generalist idea, non hierarchical, hacker wants to share, a hacker wants a community , more inputs for knowledge, value of being around a permaculture community, conversation we just had, permaculture party pack, told me what network, go on network, pull it, that is what community is about, social distancing powerful tool for tyrants, internactions can never happen

ceo of zapos, deliverying happiness, hiring on culture fit, weather that really works or not, remains to be seen, don’t know zappos has been particularly profitiable, make tony shay billionaire, developing downtown las vegas, collsions, employees within walking distance, apartment buildings, community, collisions, people would randomly run into each other, valuable knowledge skills, businesses or share information, help other businesses, connect people to each other, part of culture down there, the mode that is happening with social distancing, how that ripples second 3rd, 4th, order effects, ripple through culture, demolition man style, people aren’t able to have same economic activity, too scared to shake each others hands, had experience on island, recognized me from tv days, rapport, connection in meeting, everybody where masks, following along, wasn’t until 3rd meeting, 3 days got a chance to shake hands

TP: neo punk rock movement, people who signal their waiver, rebellion of people who say we have enough diy medicine shamans, in our community, neo tribe, rather die on feet than live on our knees, embrace chaos, embrace nature, virological chaos punks, new subculture, stark above ground underground, sci fi, underworld dwellers, social distancing, demerit tickets, deduct your central bank digital currency, above ground, hyper hiegene, culture, trusting big pharma, underground abandoned subways, not gonna come back in that paradigm

VA: a lot of these space, gonna be abandoned, underground will thrive on that carcass, that has been the way that history has moved always

TP: just balkanization of sorts

VA: roman empire, fell, didn’t fall, receded back to east, constantinople, byzantiane, empire survived a long time, until ottomans took, 1200 or something, 1000 years almost that the roman empire continued after what we call the fall of rome, receded, empire fell, but receded, not like everything just died

TP: although they did lose the recipe for concrete for hundreds of years, marveling at relics don’t know how they were built

VA: that’s the return to the garden, that is the story of adam, he’s marveling at the garden that was build by god, he didn’t have the skills to build that, lost from him, when kicked from it

fall of rome, trading all over place, decadent age, falls, recedes, farther outpost england, recedes from there, england falls into time of magic, arthurian lengends, merlin, after romans, with math, science, architure, advance language, finance, fell into magic, history had a break, came into mythological time, in the same way where much of the real world is going to be abandoned, the matrix again, the real world is going to be abandoned, no need for real world, living in virtual world, everything goes into virtual world, people will literally need to live in a closet, going out, going into matrix, virtual world, spending more and more time

TP: virus is acceleration of doom climate change, make the air unbreathable, going back to whole in ozone, shocking news, what does it look like if we burn off the atmosphere, mars comes to earth, living in bubble dome, synthetic, haven’t out of thin air be able to make food, definitely grow meat out of primordial ooze

VA: climate change narrative, don’t go out, seeing that, nature is reclaiming these spaces, people have wanted, this idea is perceived as positive, I don’t think we should see as positive

so the issue is when we put something qualitative on the idea nature is reclaiming these space, allegators in venice canals, air is clean, good thing, its simply quantitative, that’s what nature does, nothing posiitive or negative, if people go away from a place, nature recliams it

it takes incredible amounts of maintance for nature to not reclaim something, shit ton of time for it to look like human being s look there, nature will reclaim it while your’e living there, fight to keep nature out

the climate narrative, taken to logical conclusion its a death cult, kill people in that area, remove people from earth, nature takes back the earth, if people are gonna be there, people are going to behave in a certain way, work more inline with nature

we don’t have to do factory farming, we can do food forest, put human hand into, chosen what we want to grow there, if we didn’t do that nature would have chosen, and she might have chosen something we couldn’t eat, what will the human hand look like in this area, in this space, mental space or space of consciousness, will the human hand be benign and sustainable, or will it be pathological and parasitic

either one can generate vast amounts of resources, strip mining can create vast amounts but they’re gone after a while and they just leave a waste land

group that wants to social distance you, put you in pod, if you were taken from home, placed in jail cell, 6×9 cell for 30 years, nature will have retaken your home, is that a good thing?

The new ethos of this movement if there is to be an ethos, human beings are not bad, its not a death cult, it’s not about removing human beings, human beings have an ability to connect with something higher, or ability to fall to lowest of depths, end up with dystopian future, reach for something hire, beautiful and technological

TP: personal evolution, deep ecologist, misanthrope, permaculture not that there’s too many humans, its the behave of the humans that’s the problem, need everybody alive to participate, repair damage and clean up

to add to that point there is a book, thesis of 1491, part of it, entire amazon rainforest is bi-product of human habitation of landscape that was appropriate, lungs of planet wouldn’t have developed as they have it wasn’t for proto tribal villagers, foraging bands, duing horticulture gardening, bi-product scattering seeds with shit, appropriate shelters, creating conditions for more life

words of Geoff Lawton, most accomplished permaculturalist alive, humans used to be and can still be the most beneficial element in an ecosystem

VA: thesis antithesis, two pathways, human beings will recede from nature, seeing it happen already, last vestiges that were connection to nature, in established paradigm, agriculture, vast tracts of ag land, factory farmed or not, people working that land, are connected to nature, connected in a system that whereby their actions enable, millions, few individuals enable millions to not have any connection to nature, lack of connection to source of food, lack of conneciton to source of food is crux of whole thing, food and water, people don’t have access to that is the crux of everything

symbol of ultimate disconnection of source of food to your food, exact thing that were closed first, restaurant, sit down high end restaurant, vast menu, things from global supply chain, combined into one dish, shut down first, now this is the receding the great receding, recession not in economic terms, receding further away from nature, back into itself

as it recedes its gonna give up space, and we need to be filling that space

TP: timing of ai and robotics, we though big ag, chem ag bad enough, now people aren’t even gonna be in the fields to make the ethical decision of whether they’re gonna poison it

virus scortched earth, keeps mutating, recombining, different flue seaons, who’s gonna roll out the smart farm bots, almost there, dystopian, yin/yang, we have the tool kits to return to garden of eden, also have perfect storm to technologically tyranize, I don’t know if its a fair fight, the only thing that levels it is the crypto savage, permaculture farmer can’t win in a fist fight with robots and drones and surveilence capitalism, but crypto, ninjitsu of cryptography

vin armani show, invest in the revolution and get rich doing it, that’s what I finally stopped being a no-coiner

VA: bitcoin mind blowing, new book, needed for this happening now to get next piece in there, what is at the core of bitcoin outside of price, what is this powerful core idea, how does it allow this peer to peer transfer of value, goes into the food thing, growing your own food from a seed or cutting or seedling, something I’ve done since I was a kid, grew up in house that always had a garden planted many fruit trees when I was a kid, family home of mine, awesome to watch my own children pick and eat apples and oranges and pears from trees that I had planted when I was 12 or 13, eaten off of for years

purist notion of understanding lockian notion of property and value, idea that a natural resource combined with labor creates a good, property can be exchanged, growing own food, you always have extra, people don’t realize the abundance of well tended garden, or of a fruit tree that’s a mature fruit tree, apple tree probably 25 years old, rediculous, having existed, there is more wild life now, don’t ever remember squirrles in that neighborhood, recent years, tons of opposoms, lizards, because of damn fruit trees, something for them to eat, I never saw a squrril, growing up in this particular neighborhood, thank god the squirrles were there cause we couldnt’ eat all the apples, oranges, lemons, pears, avocados, given them away, constantly been a garden, constantly been fruit trees, value

bitcoin is leveraging that, aspect of cryptography, really the hashing functions, signature algo, proof, math for proof that something happened, incredible concept, something I can feel absolutely assured that a very very specific act happened in a very specific way, person saying they did is the person who did it, pretty phenomenal, build system around it to transfer value, any kind of value, assign value to things in the world, receding into a virtual world, proof is almost unnecessary, programmer can make anything pop on screen

probably half people test positive for antibodies, mortality rate incredibly low, living in a post proof world, people don’t demand proof, proof is no longer necessary, would of fake news, world of propaganda, 1984

bitcoin, so important, that proof, that ability to use this technique to prove something, anything, proof of work, labor, proof that labor happened, labor is what creates property

that’s the crux of value, that’s recardos labor theory of value, not marx, all value in marketplace is derived from labor

you can’t sell me an apple if you haven’t planted the tree, picked, bought it, exchanged it brought it, there was labor involved somehow

proof of work proves that labor took place, you can build an economy

not money printer goes brrrr, economic system based on a hustle, relatively smart gold hustler, the hustle is falling apart, bitcoin is a gift, proof of work is gift from universe

speculation was a blip, way to ahead of its time in that regard, but now, exchange for food that you grew, outside of this new web panopticon that’s coming, the value is immeasurable, we can build a whole new world with this

TP: invoke this permaculture mycellium, networks, peer to peer, network effects, discoveries, I like the phrase math isn’t invented, its discovered, its nature, Jimmy song said something like that

I want to throw out there, my final thoughts for those listening if you download the permaculture party pack, 72 hour official permaculture design course, bill mollison, geoff lawton, get torrent go through course, youd’ have same qualitification as any other certified designer, you’ll have done the most canonical training

holy grail, crown jewel of systems, chinampas, island water gardening, engineered, most productive landscape engineering design, constructed wetlands that grow crops in islands, into a lake original mexico city, grind pattern out into lake, canoe into gardens, instead of sidewalks and streets, subirrigating crops, drought proof, any climate, super dense polyculture, aquaculture, and dry farm plants, I’m working on now,

another thing, tromp, very few in the world, cant’ say exact history, way to create infinite free energy, harnessing energy created by falling water, water fall, can’t efficiently create cap on the break, air bubbles, energy events, difficult to put turbine on top of that, but if put water stream flow, drops underground, engineered cave, going down pipes, giant metal bell, to capture that vibrating energy, gas exchange where waters breaking, nature process, compression of air, gives infinite compressed air used to power vehicles, turbine to generate electricity, transapocalyptic bitcoin mining operation, restoring watersheds, greening deserts, beyond solar, harvesting wasting energy, less materials, more sustainable to have bitcoin mining reward to innovate green technology

bitcoin is basically digesting the crudeness and foolishness of this hustler scam that you’re talking about, metamorphize and spit out potentially the most elegant ecological oragami of energy, incentive that pushes us in that direction, most transapocalypitc, techno utopian, forward thinking crypto thesis, tromp, pdc, worth checking out

take us back to family farm in eden

VA: that’s a beautiful view, also believed the mechanism of proof of work, incentive is most efficient and sustainable form of energy possible, utilizing nature, free and natural resources given by nature in place, where proof of work is fated and destined to go, things to move forward on, bitcoin, multigeneration project, changes we’re talking about, happening quickly, but what we’re seeing now is the birth/death singularity, of actual cross over time, while that doesn’t happen in an instant, birth/dying process, death and dying process can be very extended for some people or it can be instant, birth is a probably a lot better, window of labor and birth, piece after, before the child is nursing and resting, still precarious time, we’re in the midst of that, right now we’re in labor pains, happening fast, level of intensity, happening to entire human family, to entire species, something we couldn’t have imagined, many of us knew clearly it was coming, this shift, opportunity is amazing

somewhere in our dna we knew that this was coming, same way mother knows child is coming, we’ve been pregnant with this change as a species, scary time, child coming can be still born, mother can also die, that’s not the case here per say, I don’t think this is a false start, communist revolution might have been false start, clearly was still born, 70 year period, it never really got its legs, fighting for life, but this is real, both mother and child are gonna live through this one, but always two children are born, right hand path left hand path, yin/yang, duality, multi generational project, don’t expect to see final outcome, incredibly interesting times, we have the tools on both sides, opportunity to make a choice, few generations to have the ability to make a choice

matrix, cypher, wants to get put back in matrix because he’s miserable in the real world

what you resonate with his how you make your choice, really make the choice in the heart, gonna take a level of bravery, a lot of sacrifice, relatively less sacrifice, nothing you have now that is going to be here 5 years from now, nothing, if ever a time to give it up, now is the time, it’s not continuing through this, birth is being made, new thing is here, make choice which side you want to stand on, hold on it’s gonna be a wild ride

TP: streamlining for flight into hyperspace, terrence line

grow deeper roots in on going conversation, welcome back anytime, sooner than later

how connect:

VA: @vinarmani on twitter, for now that’s good, pulling back a bit, more with vinarmani.com, showcasing platforms, code from go courses back, more of a sustainability tool kit things people can be using, twitter, at vin armani, best place

Mike Antipathy Eco Punk Logo

Forest Love and Rugged Collectivism with Eco-Punk Mike Antipathy TPP269

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In this episode I’m joined by my old dear friend Mike Antipathy for a trip down memory lane back to the eco-punk squatted forests of the pacific northwest

Contact Mike at safetypunk (at) gmail (dot) com

Check out his Eco Punk Column here: http://slugandlettuce.net/columns/eco-punk

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

Old punk house, portland, or

vegan straight edge, deep ecology

trying to get land as a base to reclaim a bunch of everything

apathy and privilege rant

let’s get together and wreck shit

important for people of extreme left to get a dose of real back woods americana, politics of the constitution, boot strapping businesses, rugged diy attitudes

activist scene run by kids with trust funds

working in the woods cutting down trees

12 of use living in the house

kids traveling to europe, squatting we were stuck just working

bio region, forest, politically, right before WTO, big movement in portand, really exciting, coming off days of early 90s, nazis street fighting

more of a working class artist warehouse, used to ride bikes over there

spurkraft

first permaculture workshop with sasha scatter from icarus project

right as gentrification starting to crack, alberta, warehouse, the maul venue

liberation collective, all ages venues, record stores, collectives, solidarity and comradery across movements

wasn’t infected by super negative elitist eugene vibe

lot of toxicity

pre 9/11 heyday, more breathing room

anarchist collective network, stitch together different activities

the nuge survivalist workshop

backwoods skills

ted nugent documentary, metal heads joke about old rock and metal

he’s a deep character, people love to hate him, proto romance with survivalism

scheduled a workshop, the nuge workshop

school trustafarian crust punks, teach how to each things in the wild

virtues growing up working class white, grow up with guns, fire, chopping wood, machetes, watching red dawn 10,000 times

earth first heyday

Antipathy zine

13 going to record stores, super into Iron Maiden, Twisted Sister, Ozzy Osborne

Dead Kennedys

got out of abuse church, DK album cover, In God We Trust ep

Got that, had that song moral majority, nazi punks fuck off

Black Flag wasted era

Bad Brains

English stuff, Crass, Flux of Pink Indians, Rudimentary Peni

NY hardcore, politics dodgey but man the music

trying to get all the bands and all the music you can get into your head

Icky’s Tea house, 13th and Washington, venues in Eugene

Resist and Exist and Asylum gathering, apocalyptic mad max, profane existence, pull quote, a cross between braveheart and lord of the flies

portland was always weird, oregon’s mountains, everything drains into the columbia, eugene, the willamette, drains to columbia, then the pacific, punks metal heads queers, riot girls, drifted down stream to portland

big enough you could have this punk scene where you never had to associate with anyone else

hang out, you and the hippies, logger kids the smoked weed, eugene still had that, punks all hung out with the hippies, ravers, underground hip hop scene, cross cultural stuff wasn’t happening in portland

eugene had been a very very lefty, warren creek, saving last stands of old growth, feel into that hook line and sinker when I was 18

what if we had punk politics rebellion, bodies between trees and chainsaws, music festival, outreach, literature, speakers, connect kids to something bigger

Chaos Days 95

horror stories of the carnage

flyers for chaos days, 19 we rolled in thick, sf, turned out to be a bust

food not bombs

coming back man what if we did chaos days

get arrested for smart shit, icky’s sunshine the patron saint of all things counter culture, big shout out

just put in on man, I’ll make space for you, put out flyers, ads in maximum rock in roll, profane existence, slug and lettuce, booking

all the sudden 3000 punks from all over the world flooding eugene, raising hell, robbing liquor stores

city council meeting to lift camping ban, running for mayor

resist and exist, the punk scene in the 90s, trauma kids, mental illness

guy got throat slit, someone run over by train, skinhead problem

mutual aid network to defend selves from skin heads

sf scum fucks

horrible gang rape, intense shit

shows shut down

bands show up out of own pockets

road bike around eugene, underneath bridge, dystopia played, fanatics, all kicked off

skin heads showed up, starting shit, gutter punks, scum fucks, got super violent

watching all these gutter punks smashing heads with smilies, pivotal movement

for most of the people who survived times, extreme environments, a lot of us were idealist about a utopian pacifist anarchist, had to be tactical for the shows to happen, how much more anarchy could you get or could you want, we got what we prayed for, we got what we asked for, we just didn’t know at the time that we had it

asylum, chaos punx, train hoppers, amoral gangs, rape and pillage, mauraders, vandals, parasitized, they could have made a movie, decline of western civilization, hollywood drunx period, hdp

punk scene in la now is so good, love it so much

stiff little fingers show all old white people

where are the punks, where are the kids, everyone’s on their phone, filming, no ones dancing

the legend, troll, leader of the drunk punx

strung out, sweet kids

asylum, earth first going through growing pains

punk rock more radical, queer, take earth first to something more radical, bigger better world view than a bunch of straight dudes drinking coors

there’s this old growth, one stand, massive beautiful powerful trees, climbing 12 foot thick doug firs, we should do something about this

music festival in general area

some old log deck clearing, bands playing, workshops, invite all these different things a big presence will be this environmental movement,

sacred land don’t bring alcohol

earth first, going through wanting to have focused gatherings on sacred land, alcohol is really toxic and poison for a lot of native people

found amazing log deck up

not too far from hot springs

bands played all this water, everything was set up, kids from hollywood showed up

scum fuck kids from seattle showed up, turned into a warzone

van of alcohol rolls up, all the pc kids face the trauma kids

one night of bands, political kids fend off gnarly drunk punk trauma kids

giant orgy guy, with pick axe, taxing people for whatever they had, barbarian style

became orgy of violence and debaucherous robbery, primitive weapons

regroup in the city

h2h, the system created them, the system has to deal with them

never wanting to involve authorities in our bubble of anarcho punk utopia, felt we should have might, means, reasoning, collectivized consensus judicial systems to get through anything

at a certain point, it’s over our heads

notion that we should feel bad that we can’t handle the situation, we didn’t create it, the system did

we had that moment

pulled it together, relocate to new location

security meetings, perimeters

good times, hot springs, jumping off train bridge, made out in spin the bottle

bought manowar kinds of metal lp

really important that the music happened

remember driving away from the log deck, bitchin reservoir, Neil brought the food not bombs, legend, big shout out, still living the life,

he’d invite you over to his house to stay, vegan

driving away

whole arizona punk scene, really friendly, really tough

most of those hollywood kids are dead

good training for us wasn’t it

that was fucking raw man

sometimes you think you know what you’re life story is hinged on, the pivot points, now I’m realizing

eugene wasn’t a cult of john zerzan, it was a cult of group think

in the forest my heart chakra began to develop

fabric of punks, earth firsters, fall creek

almost half my life in l.a. I’m only in la because of the follow up

gotta recruit the foot soldiers of the punk movement, either apathetic or hyper political and don’t know what to do except book shows, make donations

the idea of living in off grind, anarchist community of earth first based, that whole tribal community, an experience not a lot of the radical punks got to have, I was blessed to eventually get there

when I first went to fall creek, camped there on and off for months

had that feeling I’ve got to mobilize the punk movement

went on us tour, ended up landing me in la for about 20 years, did bring some people out there

that was the spirit, how do we get these places protected, sorting through some of the really toxic riff raff and get some real eco warriors out there

give ourselves a toast, home break apple cherry cider

raising glass, bringing punks to the front line of fall creek

Mike Antipathy, eco punk column, antipathy zine

fall creek was one of the most dysfunctional fucked up environmental movements of its time, almost entirely staffed by trauma kids, a bunch died, from the trauma the ghosts, the demons they couldn’t escape, you don’t get into this shit unless something has gone really really sideways in your development

its a really good thing that we’re able to transform whatever bad shit happened to us into a desire to make the world a better place, not all of us get out of it

barely made it out of that, big glasses raised to all those people who didn’t make it, they were important

tribute to fall creek, and all the other people we’ve lost

fanzine, like to rant about stuff

look back, fuck

crazy, can’t believe it came out of my mouth, last one came out after 2000

super helpful

slug and lettuce, free newspaper all across the world, seen in south east asia, street punk market, stacks of slug and lettuce, out of the goodness of her heart

asked to write a column

reunification of rural roots, having been raised on a farm

if you think you can do forestry better, get up and do it

followed old generation earth firsters, we’re doing it better

fell into working on logging sites, tree climber, got into that, through that getting bigger and bigger in terms of work I was doing

talk about howling wolves, salmon run coming up the stream

print magazines for the subcultural left, and punk movement

internet, just too much, doesn’t matter

if you were gonna write a zine you had to put art, creativity, research, cut and paste, go places, to produce a zine the effort that would have to be made, was a heart work, don’t want to take that away from people who have blogs on the internet, but something to be said

generation gap between my youth and the new generation

back in my day joke, it was like this, walk 10 miles in the snow to get to school, american men, masculinity, their disgust and disdain at the softness of the next generation and how easy it is, and how they take things for granted and how privileged they are, it’s weird to now get that wisdom

thoughts on current punk scene, millenial, how have the millenials, picked up the culture of punk, amdist all the social media, big data, rigged and engineered algorithms, shadow ban you

where are we at with punk

super into, super into the way the young people are right now

really intense shit happening in the 80s and 90s not really as intense anymore

portland, nazis at shows mid to late 90s, now there’s not

didn’t see faces get stomped on curb, didn’t see heroin

go to a lot of shows, kids are so nice, so conscientious to each other

have more money these days, europe go to big punk fests, things are looking up, punks are leading the way, not doing the vapid shit of the sexy selfies so much

still around the scene, nothing moves me as much as my time, tour in mexico 2003, where I most dedicated most pure hearted, fabric of intergenerational punks, what I had always dreamed up

so cal pride

so much hate on millenials, being spoiled rotten, good to know

hopefully there will be more mentors

brings us through most of the chapters where we had been running in the same circles

get into some politics and some survivalist prepper stuff, debriefing on current events

take radical experiences and politics, cover tattoos and do ballsy work within the system

from that spirit of rugged collectivism, permaculture

zombie apocalypse fantasies where your mind at

wild, go into stores, shelved emptied of dumbest shit

not real scarcity

all the shit is still there, but people are freaked

two weeks a month of groceries so we’re not exposing ourself or contributing to more people dying

this is not the apocalypse I’d imagined I thought it was gonna have a lot more smoke, cop cars, sirens

y2k sitting in our mountain compound, waiting for the glow of burning cities in rural oregon, we were fuckin ready, bunch of dried beans

shit turned out to be a fuckin bust

unsung heros, not a geek or hacker, have to study info security, trying to catch up on what I had not been clued into, steve gibson, security now podcast, people laugh about how y2k was a non event, but only because the engineers busted their ass to make it not be

trippy point, I hear all these whistle blowers talk about how they’ve bungled the pandemic response, which governments have fucked everything up

if you do the proper preventative measures and you’re successful at preventing the catastrophe from happening, people will want to cut your budgets and say you’re wrong because it never happened, the thing you were predicting that you’re urging people to prepare for, if you’re effective at preparing for it and preventing it, then it’s not a thing, and people have cognitive dissonance, so then they get soft

south korea and singapore, more experience with SARS, culture of wearing masks

don’t get trampled on the way to the fema truck

live in a mexican neighborhood, exactly the same, stores are stocked, most people work in fields, not a lot of disposable income to buy all the toilet paper from costco

keeping local

not the apocalypse I wanted, where we got to be warlords

tin foil hat segment

some people scary, depending on where you are on the political spectrum, unraveling of world economy, opportunism, could go on some extreme tin foil hat

tin foil hat adventure

I don’t have much tin foil anymore

just being vegetarian, shopping in bulk, already had the bags of rice, nothing is out of wack, ammo from dead dad

have a 10 year old now, trying to teach him to be a better non toxic man

could be carriers of a virus that’s pretty gnarly

court systems all shut down

completely suspend habeas corpus, no right to speedy trial, indefinitely post poned

poor, mentally ill, mostly brown and black, get rid of the constitution indefinitely, let people linger for low level offenses

system’s even worse than we ever thought it was

not opposed to abolishing prisons, what are thoughts on trying to lesson density of over crowded prison, letting them out early into what, what’s their severance package, where they gonna go

prop 47, all the sudden supposed to let all the drug possession felonies, made it all misdemeanors, lack of treatment

gabor mate, science, trauma, addiction

prosecutors and cops running on 1950s notions, anyone who touches drugs is evil

most people in justice system don’t have experience with drugs and trauma, they should let more prisoners out

prisons make us less safe, prison increasingly traumatized, I don’t know

this whole system was made by slave owners

positive note, decriminalize nature movement, spreading across the nation, decriminalized plant and fungi entheogens

some jurisidictions, diversion programs incorporate trauma healing with entheogens

don’t feel hopeful about it, california is fascist as fuck, last place that does anything healthy with that as a state

state banned gay marriage on purpose in 2008, california is so completely backwards

I don’t think it’s gonna happen

despite people kicking heroin with iboga

not gonna have access to that healing modality, federally still illegal

things are getting worse legally than they ever have been, with exception of immigration

the state is going to take excess in as many directions as they can, then have to be austere in enforcement in other things

numbers of police departments, knocked out because of sick or quarantine

foreshadowing for emergent properties of anarchy that were never imagined

even losing of parking restrictions

dimensions of freedom that are unenforceable

we’re blessed to have the internet as long as it lasts

getting more into traditional survivalist communications, ham radio, late bloomer on, trying to go through thought experiments, what will you never forgive yourself if you don’t have this prep dialed in, you take for granted, you’re be said you didn’t prioritize what that was, everyone has a different checklist

I’m feeling pressure on as general question that can apply to anybody

no easy to cover ass, cover assets, do proper estate planning, what if you can’t do updated last will because you can’t assemble the witness you need to sign the document, government is doing all kinds of digitization of procedures

officially time stamp my intention

whatever is left after paying minimal debt, executor of will, power of attorney they would take some percentage to pay themselves for the time to sort out what intellectual property I have and what potential revenue streams may be funneling into my estate, decided I want whatever is net gain of my estate, to actually be distributed among non profits, I have no heirs, that are individuals, would rather structure something where I can say, here’s a list of non profits, I would want it distributed equally among the, 3 I have in mind are the Red Brigade in lucknow india,sexual abuse and rape survivors banded together to make most bad ass indian version of a riot girl collective, teaching each other self defense and martial arts, self policing neighborhoods, most bad ass warrior kung fu clan, martial arts masters from all over the world have gone to volunteer to train them, and give them seminars, they’ve set up non profit donations, part should go to them, part to the Women’s Visionary Congress, and the Decriminalize nature movement, all these represent what has kept me alive, and allowed me to transcend my traumas, I don’t know if what I said would hold up in any legal proceeding, at least this will exist til the paper work can happen

now everyone has a reason to do the unthinkable, do the estate planning

spoke to mother, here’s my plan, let me know your plan, this is a bridge we have to think about crossing

5 wishes, template to know how you have to frame things like how you want to be buried, what ritual you want around that, so people can’t abuse you after you’re gone, protect your soul:

I want to put this out, time stamping this conversation:

I would like to be cremated, and buried while planting a fruit or nut tree so that I sign can be posted saying here lies ben lawson feel free to piss on his grave and nitrify this fruit tree and if you ever cut it down or let it die, I’m gonna come back and haunt your ass

if you can donate organs donate organs

freeze my brain so my bitcoin holding will be worth gazillions more by the time they thaw me out

been trying to catch up on many years lost on anarcho primitivism versus cryptoanarchism

hacker punks, manifestos of crypto anarchy in early 90s, legacy of hacker collectives, the talk of the wall street billionaires, government officials abandoning their posts to join the movement

this is the thing you could commiserate on, I never believed anything anarchist came up with would be competitive with incumbent systems

they actually built something that was competitive, was able to out compete

line malcolm x once said, make the old system obsolete, they era that we were in , the analogy of how astonishing it is they were able to make millionaires and billionaires out of this hacker implementation of cryptography, it’s like saying food not bombs was so loved and so competitive with mcdonalds, kfc, everyone started showing up and paying everyone at food not bombs, fnb became the cherished favorite food of all americans, you never would have thought that something out of the anarchist caldron of creativity, would actually do that, without brute force, without violence, with an elegant ninja tactic, actually out manuver the system, and give it a run for its money, literally, and that’s what’s happened, something I’ve tried to catch up on, not for everybody to learn all the nuts and bolts, gotta raise the glass to all the geeks and hackers that I’ve always fuckin respected, the ones that told me that I shoulda fuckin paid attention to this and I was too busy huggin trees, I coulda bought those timber sales

thing with environmental movement is that a lot of the stuff we got out of that wasn’t actually what we went in there for, it was all those other lessons, we saved precious few forests but we learned a lot more, that you would never have learned if you were sittin in a dark apartment writing code and buying bitcoin

something to be said about wild forests, skinny dippin in natural waters, and smellin your own body odor and smellin your own shit everyday, those are formative things, that make us better

couldn’t have said it better, love you brother

no small contribution you’ve made to my life

stay wild

always remember, every day when I wake up I remember that quote, whatever keeps the barrel out of your mouth, that’s the proper way to live

Charles Hoskinson with Bird on Shoulder

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Charles Hoskinson TPP268

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In this episode I share words of praise for my favorite hero in the crypto/blockchain space, Cardano founder Charles Hoskinson

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

Coming from a place of bliss

Immune systems thrive on bliss

with all due respect to suffering, sick and dying, which we could all be one of us

podcast could be titled my 2020 crypto investment thesis, heart of it is my crypto crush, bromance with charles hoskinson, who I have been a fan of now since the end of 2017 where I first got interested, made first purchase of ADA, token or coin that operates on the cardano network, a multi stage, multi phase very complex cryptocurrency platform

story for me of what I would call crypto man crush, I don’t have any personal connection to, don’t have any rapport, just putting out these words because this has been my hope, most optimism I have in heart and mind comes from his work, not just him as a thought leader, innovator, genius, mathematician, cryptocurrency serial entreprenuer

he is a node in his own network, simply another node, by design

I’m spending some time here not to “shill” a crypto token” this is not investment advice, it is an opportunity for me to express from the depths of my soul what I find to be the most optimistic, not just investment opportunity this is for the soul and spirit of liberation of humanity, the spirit of liberation from slavery exploitation abuse tyranny, the core beliefs, principles, values of any freedom loving,

the most universal aspiration is to be free form tyranny, so the study of human freedom is an infinite study, for me the ultimate current embodiment if I chose one person who is a founder of an ensemble cast of geniuses, with the spirit and ethics of liberation at their hearts

what has captured my heart and imagination it goes back, the story , to put it in sequence

why have I arrived at the pinnacle of my techno optimism resting on the shoulders of CH and company

why have I arrived, how

sequence of events goes back to my religions scholarship of bitcoin once I began to realize gains, rabbit hole, andreas antonopolis, the bitcoin podcast, omar bam, cryptos news

shy about exchanges, had to go through multiple currency swaps to get to an alt coin you may want exposure to, the story begins with my other crypto crush bromance, crypto bobby, he and omar bam, he’s the one who’s explainer videos got me to feel comfortable and confident, in understanding how to do professional trading on an exchange, not just buy, actually getting some understanding of how to place different kinds of orders, move from one currency to another, do the math, its really intimidating, scary, can lose nerve, lose mind, lose money

I was very hesitant, but crypto bobby was the sheperd, dangerous places, sharks and whales will eat your lunch, so much respect to him

his best investment of 2017 of all the icos, was his investment in this thing called cardano, I was at the time, I’m just gonna buy whatever crypto bobby has in his portfolio, because he knows more than me

vegas/lottery money, threw I tiny bit at what he was recommending, most of hit has been under water, maybe I glanced at the white papers, but the thing that got my attention was, easy sell, CH co-founder of ethereum, not just a script kitty sitting in a basement, copying a white paper, not vapor ware, not just the ico bubble

of the shit coins that will never come back to life, cardano, not just the project, the personality, the captivating charisma, not like a false charisma, like a ted talk charisma, watching the CH ted talk, between that and what’s called the white board videos

breaks down 1st, 2nd, generation blockchains, how they’ve reached multiple deal breaking scalability, governability, interoperability

in the trenches, very experienced, developing a platform play, as they say in crypto trading world, this is a blockchain that smart contracts and applications using the backbone will be able to build on top of

bitcoin basically just transferring value back and forth, you could be on top of that, but lacks functionality to run more complex computations, stories of transactions can’t be processed

ethereum, infinite complex programmability, on the base layer

at the peak of the market in 2017, thanks to getting served up by crypto bobby watching the ted talk, the white board videos, in a position to take some of my bitcoin wealth, which was not a lot, I wasn’t mining in 2010, I’ve barely been above water, shaken out a few times, weathered the storm, it’s been about what you have loyalty and allegiance to, difference between investing and trading

white board videos give the lay person, I’m not a math, not cryptographer, not a computer scientist, just a power user, copy and paste code, web admin, designer, marketer, more about the graphical user interface, will hire a programmer if I have to go deeper than that, enough understanding for the white board video, but some was going over my head,

now a few years later, studying to catch up on this movement, watched again recently, its so deeply profound, years later I can actually in real time, everything he’s staying clicks for me, I could be enamored with several other competing projects, I put skin in the game because I liked him, this project was really intelligently evolving, learning from triumphs and failures of bit coin and ethereum

more peer reviewed, more academic, not move fast and break things, actual governments, actual economies, critical infrastructure can be built on

he’ll be an exalted position, diplomacy, academic rigor

that’s what sold me, I didn’t continue to buy all the way down, put skin in the game, everything underwater, project in stages of development, other projects crashed and burned and sped ahead, classic story of the tortoise and the hare

I don’t feel a personal connection through the socialbility of the internet personalities of any of the other founders of competing projects, that’s why I can say, I can list off not the selling points of buying cardano or ada to put in investment portfoilio, if I will give any advice, if you want to feel optimistic, about the future of this planet and promise of crypto anarchy, wise, not juvenile, intelligent mature anarchism

talk to your financial advisor about if, when, why, how, what, where cardano fits in your portfolio

I see opportunity to learn from a master of the political economy of the planet earth, a personable master, synthesis of wayne and garth in one person

down to earth, approachable, entertaining, fun, human

unsocialable tech geniuses who don’t make an effort, they just don’t have the calling, the personal, not connecting with people

not a politician or technocrat, it’s just a master

if you want to learn to be a ninja or samurai, there is a sacred devotional traditional classical meritocratic relationship to have with a master

if you’re student and don’t know where to start to understand cryptography, financial technology, the stock market, the systems of government around the world, the international banking system, all the digital fabric that stitches all this together, where am I gonna go to learn all that stuff

all of my crypto mentors have made the difference of me being a beggar or me having options

respect, admiration, meritocracy of those who’ve been further down a path

why do I sing these praises so much, I’ve watched the youtube videos, have subscribed and been a fly on the wall during his AMA

incentivized test net, more reasons to love

I wake up every day feeling optimistic being in a world where the principles represented by CH are being pushed forward against all forces of evil, fraud, manipulation, so long as he remains in good standing with this ethics, I’m going to say that, without having met in person, here’s why I’m so thrilled about his work

as much as any of my tantra mentors, he’s my financial guru mentor

he’s a farmer and gardener, that’s going to excite me very much knowing that he has that balance and that connection to the earth, also mushroom worship, into medicinal plants, giggles about psychdelics, advocate of medicinal psilocybin, fan of Paul Stamets, checking of serious boxes for me, pro shamanic liberation, most important of all things, being connected to the earth through farming

if there was on person on earth where someone should gift him a permaculture design course

there have got to be more permaculture educated crypto millionaries in the world, there’s not enough, the fact that he has a farm, grows vegetables, retrofitting his zones, I just can’t imagine, he hasn’t mentioned it once so far yet

I could go on forever about applications of blockchains in permaculture designs, that’s what makes me very optimistic, thanks to these guys, not to many other geeks and crypto millionaries have their hands in the soil, low hanging fruit to turn on to permaculture design if they aren’t already into it, that’s very exciting to me

you could be steeped in sustainability, green tech, radical politics and maybe only barely bump into permaculture without having gone down that rabbit whole, everyone who’s all about bitcoin, satoshi rabbit whole, permaculture is more profound and empowering, not to compare, the enthusiasm that permaculturist have its very similar

words of vin armani, invest in the revolution and get rich doing it

its not about speculation, whales manipulating markets, still in 90percent speculation, love CH because the price is the currency is not the metric to be watching, it’s the amount of usage of the platform by developers, by apps

not going into why I choose

if you ask me what crypto to I have the most allegiance to, it’s not bitcoin, its not ethereum, it’s cardano because of the love I have for CH, he’d have to have a severe fall from grace for that to change

who are you going to be a student of who is a master of the world we live in and the future that’s about to unfold

you’re gonna want to have options with digital privacy, financial privacy, security, intelligence, all these things are being accessorized within cardano, intelligence behind it, rigorous academic approach, battle hardened, test with dick waving ego maniacal rich douche bag hate, he’s been hated on because he’s a maverick, I respect that, I salute him,

I hope you can catch up on why it is important to study this man, of all the people you were forced to study in k-12 you studied a lot of men, I don’t respect or like or appreciate many of them

one thing I was trained to do was study men, and this man is worth, whatever semesters of school you had to study somebody in history, whatever it was, take that approach, this modern genius renaissance man, take that approach to it to understanding his perspective and analysis, very accessible, does amas if you want to ask him something jump on his ama, subscribe to his youtube channel

I didn’t get in early enough or put in enough to be rich from bitcoin, but so infinitely wealthy in terms of hope and invigoration

the revolution that never happened when iw as a teenager, the anarchist revolution that never happened, the streets of the WTO, glamorizing machismo form of anarchism, juvenile

cypherpunks were writing the code to elegantly subvert the entire system

I was fighting at the lowest point of leverage, fighting cops in the street because they will break your skull, break bones, deport you, put you in prison, I barely got out, times where I barelyi got out with my bones intact, my share of arrests, evasions, escaped

I’m not putting down protest, all of the screaming, chanting, protest signs, I should have spent at least half the energy to study the subversive potential of hacking, and crypto anarchism, and the cypher punks, I didn’t I’m late, I’m not one of the rich people, I’m wealthy now having studied it having it transform my life

love that I feel for satoshi nakamoto, I think it’s the heart and soul of Dave Klieman and tretchery of Craig Wright

the people who want to believe in benevolent satoshi, I’d like to know more about dave kleiman, what made him tick, do some investigative journalism around that, its sorely lacking

I have not been satisfied by the crypto journalism coverage of the works of dave kleiman

how is there not any breadcrumb trail of his code, of his previous work being studied, total bermuda triangle over this guy

back to love and wealth

so much passion and optimism and love and freedom and empowerment, more empowerment than I ever go from any other drudgery of anarchism that was all utopian pipe dream bullshit, drama, demoralizing net lose of youth, vitality, no return on investment

love for satoshi, I hope the heart and soul is the benevolence

maybe I’m projecting that love onto somebody, the love I would be, as a fan, if people want to love tony robbins, I guess I love him, he’s transformed my life, enjoying podcast, and lectures for years

for me CH is like the love I have for tony robbins, and absorbs the love I have for satoshi, he of all people is carrying on satoshi’s vision, not just satoshi, the vision is the cypherpunks, egalitarianism through math, beyond any of the countless people

this goes back a very very long time, liberation through math, that is a beautiful study

india, the math and science of islam, so much beauty to behold in the history of the best of how math has been used

john zerzan would not be a huge fan of this meditation but when used wisely for the benefit of liberation

new profound respect for rules without rulers, I love andreas too so so much

the projected love I have for satoshi, I love andreas, that love of those who are your mentors, gurus, masters, teaching you helping you navigate the best of the spirit of cryptography, math and cryptoanarchism

who has the most integrity, who’s the most mature, who perseveres hold virtue against all criticism and all odds, and be so personable as to earn the respect of the elites of the world, from financial to governments to most destitute

all stand to gain from the leveling of the playing field

studied him from afar, choose what carter thomas said, brought me a ton of appreciation for, anybody could have told me you could invest in tech stocks, I was an eco anarchist, anarcho primitivist, peak of idealism, in teens and 20s that would be like selling my soul, selling out to have anything to do with the financial system

there’s a million things I’m hypocritical about in my purchases, what I let slide in my supply chain ethics, but the idea of I could just invest in everything that gets people rich in the world the shit that rapes the planet and is build by slaves

beholden to cardano, being able to have whatever money you don’t put into vices and give to the man, whatever you can pay yourself with, give yourself a salary, you give money to grocery store, tax man, how about salary to yourself, percentage of salary

trying to catch up on the foolishness of not having money, investible wealth, there wasn’t an option

I’m never gonna touch owning any stocks because it’s all evil, that narrative, partially true, more nuanced, you could invest in ethical corporations

money phobic conditioning doesn’t serve you, didn’t serve me

what matters now it’s possible to dare I say have a 100% ethical vehicle to deploy capital, potential for there to be a return on investment, for me I’m interested in more than a financial gain, I’m interested in participating

one of my desktop background images, ch and friends planting a tree at second anniversary party of cardano, how much closer to my heart can you get

the opus of a man

to have warm feelings of adoration and respect someone who is a master and teacher

I want to say, if you’re thinking about killing yourself right now, binge watch andreas and ch, and you’ll never think of killing yourself again, you’ll be so thrilled to be a live in this moment of opportunity

this revolution, its been the most healing thing for my heart, my heart has bled, it’s been a bleeding heart for a long time, bleeding since I was raped as child, bleeding so long for a revolution that didn’t betray me exhaust me or deplete me

I am getting well and wealthy and healed by a revolution of crypto anarchist math geniuses

I would befriend the geeks, learn from them, kept them close, respected their talents, watched their wizardry

not going to be shaken out, I will have strong hands

enthusiasm for life, happens when you understand crypto

ch was significant factor in that extremely important chapter in the history of crypto anarchy, financial technology

I love ethereum but I love cardano more

a blossoming, an evolution of that

it includes and transcends, ken wilbur,

ch represents inclusion of and transcendence of cypherpunk legacy, geeks behind the internet, bitcoin, ethereum, hopefully this ever evolving and intelligently designed, big tent, compliance, scalability, governance, high transaction throughput, security, privacy, identity

reality of whole planet of different jurisdictions

masterminding, not a lone as he has done, financing research, research based approach, incorporating cryptographers of the world, mature, responsible fashion to where I don’t just put my money into this project, I put my heart and soul as much as I can say I was transformed by tony robbins, love him, am a fan, recommend him

if I get in certain funk, bam, tony robbins hour of power, it’s a resource that’s always there, not saying put your life savings, go in debt, take out a loan, sell your house, try to chase this penny stock, not what I’m saying

admiration, respect, looking up to, being role modeled by

not juvenile in a naive way, but in the fuck yeah I want to emulate your success, the purist adoration, it doesn’t mean they’re perfect or a god, you see them perform, they’re a master of something I respect and want to achieve in

the money is shiggles on top of the thrill of being a fan of the heros of the space

if you’re an adult you can bet some of your wealth accordingly

seeing people you believe are bad asses and what to emulate what they’re doing

he doesn’t have to be perfect, just willing to admit faults, be open to criticism, transparent

anchoring into heart space saying prayers and well wishes, and support, spiritual warrior crystal grid pranic healing, purple breathing send a lot of love to this man, understand him, I beg you

what he has published in his works, what he’s trying to do for you and the world

project love and healing , positive energy around him, as he ascends, as a master

his path of jedi ship if you will, he’s being forged in a fire of toxic astral sabotage and counterintelligence, nasty demonic bullshit

if you’re a tantric you have your sex magic rituals, put this man on your list of people to pray for, bless him with the orgasmic energy of eternal goddess bliss through kundalini awakenings

absolute honor, dignity, reverence and respect

we have this feeble frail imperfect tissue flesh animal human form but when we claw and dance our way to our highest self, climbing kundalini shakti energy, higher selves, godhood, goddesshood of ourselves and our beloved

invite the avatar of this man into the astral realms and armor him with all of the divine love that you can

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In this episode I’m joined once again by the illustrious crypto savage and pro gigolo extraordinaire Vin Armani. In the year since our first conversation about hacking the sex industry as a sacred sex worker and initiated tantric shaman, I’ve devoted myself to studying his path (best outlined in his book Tao of the Gigolo) and tuning into his weekly live show.

For years I had been a fan of the crypto movement but wasn’t  directly involved. The powerful insight and urgency that Vin provides motivated me to finally begin to participate, and for that I owe him my deepest gratitude. I’ve done my best to rapidly accelerate my crypto studies to prepare for this epic exploration with Vin into the cypherpunk and crypto anarchist roots of Bitcoin.

We go over both the Crypto Anarchist Manifesto and A Cypherpunk’s Manifesto to set the table for a discourse on psychedelics, techno-shamanism, sci-fi hero archetypes, bitcoin politics, and visionary futurism.

As a long-time hacker, computer programmer, and web developer, Vin has been perfectly positioned to disrupt not only legacy banking systems, but also the cryptocurrency industry itself with his radically elegant SMS based Bitcoin Cash solution CoinText.io As founder, CTO, and lead developer, Vin explains how he plans to launch and roll out this project world-wide.

We discuss the roles he intends to play by officially joining the Free State Project in New Hampshire in the coming weeks. In addition to his crypto leadership,  he’ll be bringing years of experience in the Las Vegas escort industry and his notoriety from starring in the Showtime reality show Gigolos to the politics of sexual freedom in what we affectionately refer to as “Love Free Or Die” state.

We close with many hopeful and optimistic predictions for a successful return to ecological harmony on earth and for responsible galactic exploration as the human technological adventure continues to unfold in space-time.

Please visit Vin’s website at http://vinarmani.com/

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Vin Armani is a philosopher, serial tech entrepreneur, and CryptoSavage. He is the host of The Vin Armani Show on Activist Post. In addition to being an author and speaker, he has made his living as a television star, film producer, high-end male escort, software developer, art gallerist, pirate radio station operator, DJ, music producer, and motorcycle courier. He studied Philosophy at Howard University.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 141 I’m being joined Again by the illustrious Vin Armani who we spoke almost August about a year ago before talking about being a pro Gigolo and hacking the sex industry event has been a prominent figure in mainstream entertainment media is one of the stars of the Gigolos Showtime reality ducky drama series that was on for about six years and also the author of an amazing book called out of the gigolo which if you read LG kundo and your Bruce Lee fan or a fan of just the spiritual Arts the martial arts you really need to immerse yourself into this Treatise on the Living Arts which who better than from a man who is achieved so much success with an ethical and moral high standard of success what every boy and man dreams to achieve which is really truly not the conquest of women but the integration of the beauty of women deeper level and this is a man who truly loves women so men women parents please Avail yourself of that book. Of The Gigolo I eventually we’ll probably just have boxes of it in my trunk catches pass it out because this is something I wish I had read and that I had access to when I was just becoming a man and I will say that you know the best thing I could say as a word as words of praise for van is just that you bring it all together man you are seriously an authentic you were walking the path of a of a super heroic archetype and it Blends inflows and is resonant with all of your endeavors that I am you know that I’m aware of that I’m watching and it’s like it makes me think a lot about growing up in and having these amazing powers full sci-fi spiritual Warrior Heroes on the Silver Screen you know and they really built me all of those stories to Philip K dick the the William Gibson all of the mythologies were played out what he’s been missing characters but I didn’t feel like they ever really carry that through to the real life and they were representing those politics of Liberation in the real lives but you were someone who does that and it’s just a thrill so really anybody listening please we have a a a champion of some really amazing powerful and beautiful causes and you know us not to put you on a pedestal or make you seem to be perfect or without any flies but it is just an omage and so yeah with that said we kind of did yeah we kind of got your back on your personal history in the last episode so so we’re going to just jump right into the topic which is broadly we’re going to look into crypto Anarchist philosophy as I have got more into crypto thanks to you and Jack spearco first and foremost thank you so much for that and yeah just to give you it to balance it out to give you some space before we get into this these Seminole text of the crypto Anarchist Manifesto and the cypherpunk manifesto you wanted to check in with this tell us what’s up and how you doing and how you’re sure will first off I want to say thank you very much for that that intro of course you know my mind my own ego I’ve I’ve it’s really been a a journey for me to put aside my own ego over the past decade for sure but I have to tell you that those same influences that influence you were the ones that influenced me and it’s funny that the author is in the books that you that you listed off even there in the intro I was like yep yep yep of those are at those were all massive influences on me and I guess I just never thought that it could that I couldn’t use those as examples in that I am that I couldn’t live that sort of life and always I guess maybe I I’m pretty. I’m pretty tough on myself for better or worse but I always thought those were always the archetypes that I wanted to live up to an end truly embody and so I’m trying man I’m trying but I will tell you that every step that I have taken where I’ve done what was right as I posted according to those archetypes in according to those examples when I’ve done what was what was right even if it even if it was something that was outlandish and and that maybe people said was unrealistic every single time it is paid off for me so if I can just continue to you no share that message with people whenever someone approaches me or contact me from afar and says that something that I’ve done just by living by example has made a difference in their life that totally makes it worth it for me on on every next step and I have so many next step so I mean I think we’re going to talk about the things that I’m getting into now but they definitely do feel the weirdest part about it is that the things that I’m doing now in cryptocurrency in and sort of the libertarian sphere although I think that’s a box that I’m not really ready to fully put my selfie and although I do use the vocabulary just because it’s a dick sometimes it’s expedient and because that is a certain I guess perhaps audience that that could be receptive I think they were talking about something much much deeper here and certainly where I’m coming from is I am trying to be on that hero’s journey while I’m still on this Earth and so if it does All Steel although you know you’re moving from a gigolo to do cryptocurrency to I you know it’s speaking at the libertarian conferences around the world at the Met to some people seem like wow that’s kind of a jump It’s been a a very very smooth and clean and genuine movement of gross for me in moving through those fears and so you know I I bring with me all of the lessons that I indoc you know when those past years and and bring it through in it and now it does feel like things are really coming full circle in and I’m ready to really really manifest some things in the world that’s kind of the reason why I snap to it to to to invite you back on is because I do believe and we are going to get into this that the killer app that we’ve all been waiting for in crypto is quaint extend for a lot of reasons him and so you know one of the things I definitely want to get into probably around the middle of this talk is just something to even kind of put in the the subconscious realm right now for to Tucanes to honest at you I believe are going to be one of the next Eric Vorhees archetypes of hi Sue for hundreds of millions of dollars of valuation in your Enterprises and your your personal wealth and what Vin Armani can and will do with the blue sky budget to turn this world upside down for the better is the most exciting thing on the horizon I know about Soha preciate that I think that’s one thing I have not I haven’t you don’t we’re all so deep in the trenches of of current events and what the the potential Hazard of the crypto movement and all of these sort of event Horizons right and you were one who has the craft dialed in to be able to actually make the sort of global vision boar you can actually turn people into a harmonized vision and and I really would love to hear we’ll get to it you know what love to hear see that canvas of what you see as being possible if and when you achieve that level of of thumb of influence and that level of of wealth to be able to actually roll things out on just almost infinite scale and have them all kind of bootstrap each other so that’s not that’s a that’s a good topic I’d hate to jinx it but I would certainly love talking about Vision whether it’s me or whether it’s someone else I think that to articulate a vision you know when if it’s not me and it’s someone else listening that’s that’s just as good cuz for me it really doesn’t matter who it is because I’m about the vision it’s it’s not it doesn’t have to be me at all smart not hard leverage it get other people to chime in and make things execute you note to a greater picture for sure and yeah awesome cool right so now back to the sort of nuts and bolts of this to really I feel like every time I hear about another high-level government official from law enforcement to regulatory lot riding abandoned their posts with the government to join a crypto Consortium or a blockchain Consortium it’s just a call of the anarchists martyrs are are just cheering in their graves to know that you know the black flag of all of the battles for territory and for sovereignty that have been fought and in lost quite frankly to the tyranny of of physical violence by the state of the material plane we finally through the Ethereal realm of digital technology actually been able to advance and to a point where they’re deserting their posts to join what is the truth machine that you can’t take the truth out of the truth machine it isn’t you know it’s you got to get the truth and the truth started in this movement with the crypto Anarchist Manifesto and I’m going to go ahead and get a kick ass off with that to just chew on for many or so these this is just straight out of the what we’re talking about the Sci-Fi that this is why it’s a feeling to be and white Wi-Fi I’m bummed that it took me so long to discover this but here goes this is sort of the whole kind of fun copy from the cypherpunks mailing lists all star from the top with including the head of the email so from TC met at NETCOM. Com Timothy seemed a subject the crypto Anarchist Manifesto date Sunday November 22nd 1992 cypherpunks of the world several of you at the physical cypherpunks Gathering yesterday and Silicon Valley requested that more of the material passed out in meetings be available electronically to the entire leadership of the cypherpunks list Spooks eavesdroppers and all gold here’s the crypto Anarchist Manifesto I rid of the September 1992 found a meeting it dates back to bid 1988 and was distributed by some like-minded techno anarchists at the crypto 88 conference and then again at the hackers conference that year I later gave talks at hackers on this in 1989 and 1990 are a few things I changed but for historical reasons I’ll just leave it as it is some of the terms may be unfamiliar to you I hope the crypto glossary I distributed will help this should explain all those cryptic rooms in my signature Tim May here goes the crypto Anarchist Manifesto A specter is haunting the modern world the Specter of crypto Anarchy computer technology is on the verge of providing the ability for individuals and groups to communicate and interact with each other in a totally Anonymous manner two persons May exchange messages conduct business and negotiate electronic contracts without ever knowing the true name or legal identity of the other interactions over networks will be untraceable by extensive rerouting of encrypted packets and tamper-proof boxes which Implement cryptographic calls with nearly perfect Assurance against any tampering reputations will be of central importance far more important in dealings than even the credit ratings of today these developments will alter complete me the nature of government regulation is the ability to tax and control economic interactions the ability to keep information secret and will even alter the nature of trust and reputation the technology for this Revolution and it surely will be both a social and economic revolution has existed in theory for the past decade the methods are based upon public key encryption zero-knowledge interactive proof system and various software protocols for interaction authentication and verification the focus has until now been on academic conferences in Europe and the US conference is monitored closely by the National Security Agency but only recently have computer networks and personal computers that team sufficient speed to make the ideas practically realizable and the next 10 years will bring enough additional speed to make the ideas economically feasible and essentially Unstoppable high-speed networks is DM tamper-proof boxes smartcard satellite scoob and transmitters multi M IPS personal computers and encryption chips now under development will be some of the enabling Technologies the state will of course try to slow or halt the spread of this technology citing National Security concerns use of the technology by drug dealers in tax evaders tears of societal disintegration many of these concerns will be valid crypto Anarchy will allow National secrets to be traded freely and will allow Alyssa and stolen materials to be traded an anonymous computerized Market won’t even make possible Everett markets for assassinations and extortion various criminal and foreign elements will be active users of cryptonet but this will not halt the spread of Crypt of Anarchy just as a technology printing altered and reduce the power of medieval guilds and the Social Power structure SO2 will cryptologic methods fundamentally alter the nature of Corporations and of government interference in economic transactions combined with emerging information markets crypto Anarchy will create a liquid market for any and all material which can be put into words and pictures and just as a seemingly minor invention like barbed wire made possible the fencing off of vast ranches and Farms dust altering forever the concept of land and property rights in the frontier West so too will the seemingly minor discovery of an Arcane branch of mathematics come to be the wire clippers which this man the barbed wire around intellectual property arrives you have nothing to lose but your barbed wire fence is the aspect of that that is I think the most profound is how incredibly accurate it’s almost as though a time traveler I mean think about it you go through an every single thing does not want word that isn’t that hasn’t come to fruition every single thing and not only that in chronological order right and it’s so you know you start to wonder in this is you know I joke about I do this hashtag vinster Damas right that it’s like it’s getting to be a joke that like I’ll say something on my show which is one of the reasons why I like having a show is because I can say things and then like 3 months later it happens but it’s not a betting Market a crippled chain things that I’m doing but it’s because when you’ve studied enough about particularly about how individual humans behave and then you get a little bit of history and a little bit of Economics you don’t have to have much but like I’m a history buff and I love studying economics and I you know either I embody sort of the all the traits of psychotherapy particularly as being at you know in my time as an escort it’s like you get to be like down in the trenches really learning what motivates people and particularly what keeps people coming back to talk to you right to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to talk to you you start also learned a lot about yourself in your own motivation I think what’s the deepest aspect of that is it when you have the technology and you see okay here’s this technology and it’s now been placed into the wild even a little bit then you can do a logical progression because there’s really nothing new Under the Sun we might think you know what I love that the analogy of the barbed wire fence and the wire cutters or the printing press and it’s interesting him using that printing press analogy it’s been used again and again now I bite that document I probably first saw in about 1998 cuz I mean I was a hacker at the time right and so that was floating around on bulletin boards and what not you know along with things like the Anarchist Cookbook and whatnot these were all these little things that people were collecting and that they were putting into these compiling as being part of this hacker culture and you know what the time like you say it was Science Fiction it’s like wow this is going to be this is this is crazy science fiction except know it’s a logical progression and the reason why good science fiction works is because it’s believable that this could be the future right I mean William Gibson prime example so in your home answer right that was the first time that he ever use the term cyberspace and I think that as we look at that book in particular and we look at what our fears are of artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence researchers you almost wonder they’ve already William Gibson of course but you almost wonder are they designing to the book or was the book just that much of a of a prophecy that that was the logical progression I mean he wrote a book called virtual light that’s basically the story of Google glass-like the device that’s that’s the fundamental sort of a MacGuffin in that book is this this pair of glasses that you look through and you get augmented reality and I think he wrote that in two or something like that 93 so this is what makes great science fiction good the thing is that now things are moving so fast that when we talk about things that science fiction they could be a year away right right we’ve got you on musk shooting things into space he just yesterday put out this hyperloop video that’s crazy you know he’s boring underneath Los Angeles and it’s like this video looks like something that Dad that would be in a William Gibson novel and yet here’s the here’s of the CGI video of it but it will be a reality in like 5 years so we’re in this weird space like Terence McKenna. I was just going to say yeah right it’s like time-wave zero almost right now he has sped up its bed up to the point where you know it don’t like do we reach the transcendental object at the end of History like how close are we to that it’s an interesting time to be alive and I don’t know when it comes to crypto Anarchy you know for those people who are Anarchist for those people who are libertarian one of the reasons why I am such a forceful advocate for crypto and for bringing people along is that if you’re already there philosophically and you’re not there technologically there’s a problem you’re going to you’re not going to be able to fully manifest what you want to see in the world in your lifetime which is a real possibility if you’ll Embrace this technology exactly yeah you know I can actually dropped it recently on on one of your shows that you were kind of shipping on the deterrence theme about shamans and artists from the future so it’s like you enter into that creative space and you just it just rains on you you know this these glimpses from the future of the Sci-Fi sort of feedback loop is interesting feedback loop between actual future events and then the sort of artists and authors who are predicting them and yeah if you were this is so this is so apt in what’s happening and then you know that the time-wave zero it’s the take home from that from anybody who isn’t familiar with it or anybody who blew it off when 2012 didn’t you know open a violet door into hyperspace you know I think it fucking did your sleep like how could you deny that I sent it with her it was exactly 2012 but like let’s be real like we’re talkin about smartphones in like 2008 Bitcoin in 2009 is like just those two technologies just those two the smartphones have already completely changed the landscape of what it is to be a human being it’s completely changed it that was actually the introduction of cyborgs we are already cyborgs is it going to snow melted with the machine it’s already true take somebody’s take somebody’s iPhone away for a day and see if they don’t start reaching for it in their pocket like a phantom limb like a fiend right oh my God is the semantics of the singularity us becoming a global board hivemind through the internet that is the singularity we are the machine and luckily thanks to this for side of the crypto that you could the Vatican cypherpunks were actually able to own in and really actually in a laboratory manager has the sword is on the steering wheel the power to to actually drive spaceship earth in the direction that we collectively you will see is his for the benefit of some of all of this for or perhaps to stop driving right because this is how I interpret what has had I interpret that the end of the entire Crux of human history until until this point has been us attempting to drive spaceship earth and where we’ve been attempting to drive it is back to source and what source is for us human beings for our particular species what separates hours of our species from every other species is is our capacity for communication and it’s not just our capacity for communication between individuals because there’s a great many species that have that capacity and some of them have it on a much greater scale than we do and that we would then we ever will between individuals but us to communicate across time and across space and that’s as fundamentally what makes humans humans and when we started out as a species we were able to communicate instantly with and face to face and voice to voice and even you touch and to smell and to have a $0.05 communication with every other human being on the planet that first family right however many of the hominids that that were our ancestors that we are all as a species derived from they were able to communicate to every single other human being on the planet and at the moment when that’s that tribe that Clan grew so big that they split apart and one family went you know on a search for more resources because resources were running out or maybe there were they scattered to the winds ever since that time we’ve been trying to find a way to get back to that place to that one family to be able to reach out and touch and smell and and interact with every other human being on the planet and that was a fantasy until in our lifetimes and we are now returning to that point and when we get to that point P I believe that is our Singularity because I believe that’s why restart that’s when we hit the reset button then we become a new species and it’s going to be it is because of the machines and it is because of us integrating ourselves with this technology which by the way is not unnatural it it does not come from an unnatural place it’s it’s manifested from inside of us from inside of our Consciousness it’s it’s abstractions that we have made manifest into the physical world that that wanted to emerge and to merge and so that’s what we’re really dealing with at this point and so what we as a generation in particular and it’s going to be our generation that’s going to either do this right or wrong is we’re making a return to the garden now and the question is are we going to learn from this journey of piloting spaceship earth because now we have a chance to become truly a galactic species that’s our next step are we going take out off of this planet and into the Galaxy are we going to start over as what we can be or are we going to take all an M that means the garden all of those things that we all of those the violence and all the witches in Act of course and it helped us to survive and in that time but it’s due to come to in a new realization in our own Consciousness and in our biology and not to say that we are that it to recognize the shadow right to recognize that that’s there to recognize that this is what we are as a species but to also embrace the idea that as individuals that we can raise our Consciousness in that that’s positive know we have the choice both of those examples have been presented to us throughout history on both sides right of both sides of that and it will we find that balance as we become a galactic species because it’s a foregone conclusion now it’s not a question of if we’re going to the Stars it was a question so we’ve got to decide are we going to carry on the things that aren’t that we needed to survive in this harsh environment but now that we have become especially Gods we become as mythological Gods now that we’ve become as gods are we going to be those warring gods or are we going to be those guys who got their shit together that’s the question I asked you definitely gives you glimpses into civilizations Beyond this galaxy that have figured out the balance of technology and spirituality materialism actually that what just came to mind was it a quote if I can remember it anywhere near the sodality of the original affecting parents ended one of his talks went saying no we will we be Street Smart in the ways of demonic materialism and able to come back to the family farm and eating with that wisdom and certainly if we’re going to go out in space and not leave the Earth is smoldering Cinder like so many dystopic novels then it’s going to take a yeah well so beautiful and so this is already it’s great cuz it’s just weaving itself cuz I wanted to get into the Psychedelic influences and now this is probably a good segue before we get back into another section of a texture I’d like to read the the cypherpunk manifesto to put that just sort of on the record year but to give us a little conclusion here do you want to talk about just sort of some a broad overview of how your psychedelic Explorations and experiences have informed your interfacing with technology and certainly your Inspirations for coding and and just done with a broad topic but since we kind of got into the Terrance space and all that it be great that you know put that now for a bit and then we’ll get back into the sure sure well you know it’s interesting it’s been 25 years since my first psychedelic experience and psychedelics have been a part of my life and a companion companions I should say the various different us Spirits there but they’ve been companions for me throughout and it’s just now that I’m able to start articulating what course I’ve embodied a lot but that I’ve it’s just now maybe in the past few months that I’ve even been able to articulate what influence really that that psychedelic Journey has had on me and I think and some of it has been going back and listening to Terence McKenna that it’s weird because about every five years I will go and try to delve in into to Terrance and I get something new every single time and it what you realize is a while this was a true Master Hood really gone all the way out there and then come back you know what I mean in and so is its there’s there’s great depth but what I realize is and you know I’m realizing more and more now it was getting into the Ayahuasca community that I kept being confronted by people as you know you would share your story on in ceremony and and after and and in just so you know communion with those other people and they would constantly say to me while you’re a shaman you’re a shaman you’re a shaman you know what the things that I was was doing it it never never resonated with me because I never really really really understood that but you know Mirchi eliada has kept coming up over the last year so I went out and got the the his book a classic book on Shamanism in and read that and and Terrence getting into Shamanism and I think they’re really it can affect house and then vice versa and then I know some companies for penis or dildos that they may operate with each other as well so there’s that I’m so for real I think it’s really been I think it’s mostly popular among cameras we are always interested in focusing on relationships intimacy so there is that as a result of the development with held it on for men that was Toys R Us been a bit better but no one’s for for you know that or maybe towards women other people who might like to try something different than a genital to genital contact different types of really interesting as well so so it’s like that old is Onyx or the 268 Patton and it expires after it’s 20 year on this August about not exactly the exact date but it’s about a goddess when it when it expires and so this is really significant because there I’m not sure if your readership is familiar with this project. Tried to get off the ground and you know really small startups that it’s a really interesting things with a couple of things and I’m really pushing for it or you know development but unfortunately because there’s this really wide Haughton but cover is basically sexual communication over the Internet a lot of people have been sued or shut down in there if they’ve had to fight legal battles that you know that are basically you know it’s the cost of the lawyers even if it’s pro bono I like one company like I think it was cold is getting towed when I was getting sick because they were looking for prior art and you know there has been you know the ideal tell the dogs existed before this time I actually was granted however they’ve been successful in suing people and people just cuddling cuz they don’t want to deal with you know all the legal problems that go with it so he was able to get it dropped but having to pee but I don’t think it was a nice process for for the mobile that was not fun and I think they got a new thing I did find a pro bono lawyer in Endor if I had a face match lie angle to remain in the space so it’ll be after this August to see if people are really interested in how old Onyx or if you know if it was kind of holding it and it’ll be interesting to see how it grows I expect more with live timing actually has more campsites have Incorporated chip activated sex toys so sex toys that will that will basically responded to the sound of text so when someone is watching a cam performance that you know they checking and whatever the ticking noises or Whatsapp might change the intensity or what device can do so yeah that’s an exciting thing to look for and there’s that Hypes they’re not really marketed towards my body but I think it’s exciting and I’d like to see more in there I just don’t I’m not sure I’ve heard some people really like it arson but I think that like there’s much more sophisticated Technologies because I think with which is it was very low Fidelity like you all the sexual movements you can make and compared to a without quit that may be a smart dildo or smart Middlesex leaves can do is like you know there’s so much Lost in Translation so keep an eye on for next year well well I guess this makes me think they eventually they’ll probably have some sort of pressurized suit where you could actually just have a regular massage that way you don’t even erotic now is standing but it just seems like things are going to move in that direction anyway of just remote everything in the eyes I was even thinking now you’re saying this if if you were if you were wanting to do this more of a sexual therapeutic thing and you were in if it’s it’s like the it’s been very treacherous the territory of being surrogates and I’m sure the lot of the sex surrogates that have existed since it’s been legal least in the US has to have been in situations that they probably would have much rather had had some sort of mediation device that could actually perform physical manipulation of flesh but we’re not with them having to be right there you know in the room but that you could actually be like in like in some lab Booth where you’re behind the glass but there is a surrogate apparatus or likeness of a human or something that you can speak through with that you can move through and it will be kind of like a like a space suit or something but you’re not interview at those those robots that they put out the work on space stations if you could work on it unless someone sexually LDV and a harmful way and you could actually induce certain forms of somatic Therapies in that that might be even more scalable than trying to find the people brave enough to want to do that stuff cuz yeah I think this will hopefully go in that direction or this everybody will is Hedonism will be counterbalanced by the therapy going to be a big competition for a robot out of tar so that is heard about exercise but it also had funded project to make the first digital tricorder in with a Star Trek tricorder that basically diagnosis in the competition’s on what’s the guys name I forget what a multimillion-dollar basically tries to you know get these robot out of Hearts made it and I didn’t I don’t believe there’s any connection to sex but it’s more to help people in remote locations doctor service is or Nurse Services of course development and Technology happening with money behind it up some big implications for what’s possible all right well this is a whole nother I raised money to do a the first porn in space in are they raised I don’t know some percentage of their goal but that was interesting headline I sell alpaca should I I don’t know that it wasn’t quite there gold but yeah then I haven’t heard anything about whether or not happen but I’m sure it will eventually he’ll be in there and on top of that there was a harness device that would allow for zero gravity so that people could reproduce in space cuz if people thought is like what happens if you start to try to get it on I’m sure that’s enough to try but what if you end up swinging yourself across the space shuttle and then you lose the ejaculate in this is floating in the air NASA has spent sending it has already sperm to space just to basically see all the details but yeah they’re they’re wondering if it’s possible to reduce gravity going to affect reproduction is it going to make it as easy like how is sperm motility yes oh yeah and I mean that people are going to want to call and eyes Mars eventually or it’s not like they want to now so yeah I wonder they sex is coming just don’t know it is coming and no pun intended of well that’s interesting cool then see if we can assume any other so we got to tell the Don X and everybody’s pretty well are there any other innovations that we should be aware of I’m certainly yet I didn’t know there was that patent situation so I’m really kind of in the dark anything at this year please what’s interesting is just how in the last couple years or last year really there’s been just a lot more female lunch printer is coming and so I think that’s great because if you don’t like the pornography that’s out there but like granted it is at the clean a do you know you like a course in something about pornography with sex toys and sex tech products if you don’t marry the thing is is that there haven’t been so many going into it in the past the developers have been mail and she know that’s how that’s how it’s been but you know if you’re craving for that if you’re you know things for women that they haven’t liked so much more talk from an entrepreneur is making products and focusing on women’s pleasure in the in a sex-positive way which is really really important and in that kind of a kind of discussing the orgasm Gap and I don’t know if you know where the workout some tacos but it’s basically different studies that show different types of something like or just had her in sexual encounters I think men for the most part are like nine times out of ten they’re going to have an orgasm and then for women it’s in between one and two thirds of the time they’re going to have an orgasm so I mean it’s not like I always like to say it’s not all about orgasm there’s there’s more to Sexton that but just you know there is where is the discrepancy in and I don’t think there’s been enough focused on women’s pleasure and women focusing on their own pleasure okay because I know what you like and be open to just finding that out and so I’m just a really excited about how there’s this more women and sex text no putting their horses out there and if you don’t like their products which it which I I love products products I’m just saying like you know there’s this stuff there that’s that’s that’s happening it’s a great it’s a great thing to do if I guess right thing I wish there was more of us when I was growing up not sure I would have been if exposed to it because it’s hard to advertise when you are insects taxable I’d say it’s really positive it’s the adult performers sex check which they overlap but then there’s there’s different is that there are more women directors and creating Studios and I think I think that’s that’s great you know I think there’s more diversity the better and so about comes with like books of all backgrounds you know I think that the more people from different walks of life to develop products that are there software you know whatever it is a different really help cut down on the negative sexual things that happens with abuse assault that’s awesome. Do you have any on the platforms and the and we’re not to you that you publish on have you done a series or would you think about doing a series or anyting the chronicle sorted profiling women in insects take or women who are entrepreneurs in the space so that I will be happy thrilled to know more about than just be is that something that that you might do like a specific unit of focus on at some point so we can look into that later International women’s day we had a writer put together a peace sign about I think maybe 11 women in sex tech that you are doing interesting things and I hope we’ve also covered if you act like just serious but we do cover for a lot of different male female I mean he would but I guess they’re not going to find it but we just all genders in between and we’ve covered CEO Polly Rodriguez of Unbound and she’s really great shoes I don’t know if you’ve heard of her but she co-founded the women of sex tech community so she’s based in New York and Unbound is her company and it basically creates products for women and sell products for women’s pleasure and a really like it because it makes you feel good about yourself on their commercialism but you know that market in a way that it just because you know they’re really speaking to a demographics I think has been underserved well is that how Polly co-founded women have sex talking so it’s been like a networking group mostly for ladies who are or women identifying people to talk about problems and getting funny because I mean this is the times I’ve heard differing views and I’m not a funding sometimes and then with women going in there they might get treated a bit weirdly like they don’t really appreciate it or there’s just not as much interest in focusing or investing in Need for women’s pleasure but I think women are the future of sex. Net and we’ll have definitely have articles featuring women who are in it and then I think it’s women of sex tech stuff, and that’s just a bunch of women in sex tech or sex-related online projects that you know you might be interested if you don’t know a lot of women entrepreneurs in the space store in publishing online that’s cool I’m so I was at the crypto invest Summit in Los Angeles recently and there was a women in blockchain panel and there’s a number of there’s a really powerful really amazing women in the blockchain space were organizing and creating a different groupings in and just looking at a think it’s something like I don’t know where anywhere between effort numbers between only 2% of venture funding goes to women in Navy up two at the most like 10% but that’s probably generous so we have a long way to go and that’s that space is so much more I have a lot more hope for for transformation of culture through Venture funding when I do through replacing people on you know positions of authority and Power & politics to let you know that everywhere but I’m not really thrilled to know about that cuz I feel like yeah whatever whatever dystopian futuristic sex text scenarios might happen with really may be corrupted ingredient you know harmfully perverted men if their women in the space of Mino writing proposals and business models in business plans in pitching then hopefully more enlightened more feminist friendly future will be a that was my home okay so you’re moving along to another question so there has been it’s weird I feel like the green the go green kind of Boom it’s it’s almost like I don’t know I want I don’t want to call it a bubble but it seems like I remember in the late in the late 2000 and early 2000s around between 2822 I don’t know what you have wouldn’t wouldn’t say when it stops at any point but it did really kind of get big there was directors of sustainability positions opening up in all these different firms and I’ll and institutions and Recycling and just a sort of Renaissance of of the Earth Day by but it really got up the nerve is everybody wanted to go green and I don’t know if you get the sense of that sort of faded a bit from a Zeitgeist maybe people have gotten just more all about apps and all about smartphones and just like that in that movement and it around Elsa was big with the Inconvenient Truth coming out there and then being a I see a lot of celebrities speaking out about a lot more I think on the other half of the Earth but I’m noticing a gap I don’t know if you have noticed it but I’m curious now if you feel like in the specific unisex take space if there are people who are really coming out saying I hate let’s do this let’s do this development of psychological development for sexuality but let’s do it with certain environmental ethics and protocols in place as far as carbon footprint and as far as you know sustainability and sustainable products and materials and all but I feel like these people are really losing sight of the supply chain of Technology from ecological perspective I don’t know if you have any thoughts on that but for the sex tech industry I don’t think it has a great track record when it comes to sustainable projects or at least not in promoting them I imagine I think that if I had a better track record I hear about it cuz the pr people like to tell you what they’re doing great there is people like lovehoney they’re like and basically trying to make more vegan products so that’s not necessarily that let me hear me say that again like so it’s about regarding like semen safety and then making sure there aren’t animal products in your sex toys and I’m not an expert on that but there has been more discussion about vegan products and then and I think there’s some companies that really promote that is alternatives to leather like some type of a vegan alternative but yeah I don’t I don’t think it has a great track record I haven’t really heard much about it there are some 3D 3D printed 3D printing projects I’ll hear about every once in awhile and what kind of push like I’m an environmentalist point of you sometimes because I’m guessing you’ve heard of Eco sexual arousal stainable 3D printed sex toys that they people can fit themselves and any use out outside historic site right now project was called dildo at yourself idea of you know generally instead of mass producing a million sex toys like one-size-fits-all with 3D printing you know there’s more customizability so that’s that I think 3D printing has but just so you know it’s just because you 3D print something it doesn’t mean you should put it in your 30s to be like a protective coating put on auctions increases the technology gets better you will have to do all this DIY stuff. I got a clitoris 3D printed because there is an open source 3D printing projects to get that. I’m basically just to raise awareness because you know most of the clitoris is internal and people don’t know that and they don’t realize like they see just one little thing about that looks like underneath so I got that I don’t have a 3D printer but I went to something called like three beehives and basically it just links you to people in your area I’m in a very like safe manner I felt that are able to print designs for you and decent cost so I mean back something as well instead of like that can change how business is done because you don’t need to buy your own face 3D printer you there are going to be already are in this going to be more and if so needed to spend all the money you can get somebody else to do this and I don’t think the guy who cares right I want to get princess just a personal services so there’s it’s possible that is really cool I feel like if you could through and I have never thought about that really you know I’m kind of cynical and jaded and in my old old-fashioned but isn’t didn’t really think about how great it would be if there were even somehow edible totally organic totally cruelty-free edible ingredients to take to create these shapes with using machines like that mean I could be something that gives Pizza waiting two years for a part to arrive you can know we have the skin the scheme of anything friendship you know when the anti-globalization movement failed to stop the sort of thumb race to the bottom of wages where the sweatshops of the world with the lowest environmental standards for materials is like all of this plastic stuff that’s being manufactured in sweatshops and then shipped back to the US if the 3D printer can make that entire the bottom dropped out of that market because it’s so cheap as it is but if you could eliminate all of those Logistics by the way you’re saying like a localized distributed open source way to get the same sort of 99 cent store that you have your own 99 cent store in your garage take out that whole corrupted supply chain of international trade that’s really not with what is not healthy for the time but the news like bioprinting and I think people are the really interested in the house applications of of regenerative Technologies and Technologies and I think that there is no try that is possible to create it’s going to be possible at least a crate pills that are for like really targeted for the person so instead of giving like everybody like this is just a standard dosage know some people need different Doses and elderly people are often prescribed medications and so will you just expect another slice of this type of printing it has so many applications that can really enhance like you know what you said you could help get rid of fireman by cutting out all that transport and you know hopefully make fruit quality of life as well as medicine very good very good so I think whoever do with all that stuff a couple questions I have here if we have a few more minutes to get to wrap up I think we covered I was going to ask if you would share some with some women like space but it sounds like we got some good resources for that we laid out and I appreciate that so people can follow up and and look at those and then I guess the met the last question will be if you yourself had a blue sky budget to develop the start-up of your dreams and their futuristic sex text space What would be one of your dream projects if you’ve ever been in a brainstorming about it yeah well it’s a big question I would say yeah I think for for sex tech me to get payment and Publishing done on our own terms and stop Outsourcing like for instance you know trying there’s some people Facebook doesn’t allow any sex advertising or it could be something really likes a fish for work basic it is not like it’s hard to advertise the banks and I’m peanut processors they can just freeze your account and so I think something I mean maybe it wouldn’t be blockchain we would have to develop something but with the Sky High budget I just think that is made for and by the sex tech industry so that we’re not reliant on you know people who don’t have necessarily the intellects Experience open my Nest help a Dolores extech Industries you know so I understand why some companies want to get Facebook eyes but you know I don’t I think that’s just open a can of worms in a bit because it’s what’s good sex what’s bad sex should Facebook me to finding that and just in terms of online publishing a 90% about enchiladas Revenue goes to like Google or Facebook the duopoly so again if you’re publishing picture people are making money but it’s mostly those two people and so I think the way to Circle wait this I don’t think we should be like cow coloring to these big big companies that have all this power but not necessarily open-mindedness and I totally agree with that it’s a huge pain point and Swan that I’ve certainly been let me know what I can say for personal experience I’ve had videos go viral on the more mainstream platforms that I shall not name but the second they really go viral they get deplatformed and that could have been career-changing for me you know if you have to build an audience so maybe it’s funny because Yahoo started out very much a highly trafficked adult almost classified platform if I’m not mistaken but there was there was a sort of kick-starting bootstrapping golden age of adult in the early days of the internet that got quickly sort of extinguish I don’t know why they don’t just have an official vetted adult only access sphere of their own Enterprises even if it’s a subsidiary with a different name or something if they have some distance from you know politically or something but they’re definitely missing out you know I don’t know why they don’t figure out how to make their algorithms could do anything I mean your algorithms good figure out how to only serve with I mean cuz I just wiped out a lot of they demonetized a lot of of content producers who run anything that could possibly be controversial for advertisers but why not just say oh you’re up you’re a right-wing gun that freak you know that whatever will hear is you get all of those ads and Penny Play Say Something for everybody so and I’m not putting that down imma you know that there’s there’s I’m just an example of what some of what gets with what get some persecuted by that but yeah I totally agree with that and I do feel like hopefully blockchain and you know these new permissionless content platforms like steam at for example as a good example publishing platform where you can get paid for your content and they just have a very intuitive there it is checkbox for not NSFW right and that’s it that’s all you need to know self-select I don’t know if it’s the community can can certify a gate but then it doesn’t get deleted it just goes into that not-safe-for-work category in that is all you really need a break myself but yeah that that’s a great a great idea hopefully everything will come to you to help the guy that process and you know actually know if I just have one less thing to put out there since I have you on the line and the folks who are the fans of your work might might get into this I don’t know if this is been done yet I don’t see how it seems like it would be the easiest no-brainer sort of fork of some sort of Open Source Code for a nap but basically you bringing bringing sex tech Down to Earth for my ecosexual perspective that I would love to see there be an app that’s exactly like Airbnb but what it specializes in is connecting people who are like glamping you know but for sex places where you can have sex in nature and go to a place in private property that is a place where you can go and feel free at this like like monetizing private 611 Tantra temples but but at the very least just feel like I’ve got a bunch of land with you know a cabin on it and I would love for people couples or whoever to go out there and have their full moon rituals and not be bothered people gawking at them or you know complaining about it and they can be as you can be as loud as you need to be to really go deep with sexuality which we also do not have the access to seal open up you know what their vocal cords as much as feel free being naked and Nathan Wyld so yeah let’s have an airbag recall are birds and bees like that so cool well hopefully yeah all of our dreams come true here to certainly plenty of plenty of resources being thrown around and now in the crypto Stacy know I’ve never seen so many hundreds of millions of dollars / around the planets online exchanges they never before so they do you know if there’s a will there’s a way let’s get well let’s hope for the best and certainly be optimistic about the potential for anything now yeah cool said you’re going to give your websites and Sandy final closing words anything else before we sign off your podcast cuz I’ve been a fan for a while so it’s nice to be here and you want to check out the site of future of sex. Net we’re just vamping to be a responsive shame I know it took so long but it’s going to look a bit different soon if you are visiting today it’s not responsive just yeah you’re still a sex-positive future dates or anything we should be aware of I definitely can see YouTube easy easy for most corresponding all these matters I had no clue about a lot of this stuff and I’m so thank you for enlightening us and we will definitely be in touch soon thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provide ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Damas de