In this episode I’m joined again by Grace Diaz to learn all about yoni squirting!
My passion of healing began at the age of ten, when my father, a Reiki Master of 20 years initiated me as a Reiki Master in Medellin, Colombia. For years after arriving back to the United States, I began teaching Usui Reiki all over the east coast.
Reiki lead me to Tantra. I was initiated and certified into Shakti-Pakti-Tantric-Yoga by my mentor Tafari Sudra, in 2011, and it allowed me to heal my 10-year eating disorder through what I believe was a neuroplastic effect.
My organizations, Yoni Grace, LLC and The Vaginal Voice Foundation along with my book, “How to Use the Yoni Egg for Sensual Healing” were created to share the wisdom I experienced with Vaginal Yoga and Yoni Eggs.
In 2011 I began distributing Yoni Eggs to women worldwide while educating them through what I was taught through interviewing over 5,000 women in Yoni Egg focus groups.
I host Vaginal Yoni Egg Yoga events in the Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami Beach, New York, Denver, Bogota and Medellin, Colombia and even in Istanbul, Turkey.
I also certify women in Vaginal Yoni Egg Yoga training for their at-home businesses.
My Vaginal Yoni Egg Yoga events are one of a kind and focus on helping women embrace their sensual wisdom for spiritual and physical wellbeing.
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In this episode I’m joined again by dear friend and tantric comrade Devika the Techy Tantrika for a review of the anti-Hindu, anti-yoga, anti-tantra religious propaganda film “Gods of the New Age”. We share notes on how we feel it is the like the Reefer Madness of tantra, and almost a classic satyrical mockumentary. Beyond the hilarity, we explore the importance of critical thinking and anthropological rigor in the study of culture and while comparing religions. I also express that I feel it has great value as a teaching tool to help future tantra seekers understand legitimate critiques of historical corruption within the tradition and movement, though with a healthy skepticism of the motives and bias of the film’s producers.
Check out our first episode for more info on her personal backstory:
Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.
You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika
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You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com
This is a Tantric devotional/instructional love song that teaches the core methodology of honoring each other as God/Goddess and entering into sacred union to achieve a state of divine grace and experience ecstatic altered states of bliss. The lyrics and melody were channeled in a ritual goddess worship session. It felt as if it was dripping into my crown chakra vortex, as if shakti was secreting it like nectar.
I made a demo version of the track with all acoustic instruments, and my dear bro Nuno remixed this version as Ninesense.
Please sing and dance along with your lover:
Om my goddess
Om my god
Om my goddess
Om my god
Om my god/dess
I love you
I thank you
Patriarchy has denied
Shamed and brutalized
We must resacrilize
Body temples as divine
Sit on my lap
Legs around your back
Look into my eyes
Cycle up the spine
The energy inside
Open the third eye
DMT will flood your mind
If you want to see the light
You must last all night
Pray between my thighs
Meditate while I’m inside
This video depicts my personal style of providing yoni puja, or yoni worship including sacred spot (g-spot) massage.
“Women are divinity, women are life, women are truly
-The Yoni Tantra
Photo by Pete Longworth
In this episode I’m joined by a brave and courageous tantrika who shares a love for psychedelic spirituality and has been on a path of evolution set in motion by powerful transcendent drug experiences.
She shares her intense story of spiritual growing pains, navigating love and relationships, tantric initiation, and ultimately owning her power to teach and transmit the practices of tantra.
We talk about the differences between Yoga and yoga, the role of asanas and tantric practices in the path of self-realization and liberation, neo-tantra vs. classical tantra, the role of psychedelics in aging and maturing spiritual practice, the interplay between the chakra system, the nervous system, and the endocrine system, the intersections of biomedical science and tantric art and science, and much more!
Born and raised in New Zealand, Kara-Leah is an internationally-renowned retreat leader, teacher and author. She has impacted millions of people over the last decade through her articles, books, videos and teaching. Passionate about liberation in this lifetime, Kara-Leah practices and teaches an every day path of awakening – the path of the Awakened Heart Warrior. This path is grounded in Tantra and focuses on dissolving layers of the conditioned mind into deeper and deeper heart-felt presence. Kara-Leah’s work, through her teaching, writing and retreats, focuses on using the process of compassionate inquiry to reveal conditioned mind, and so help people to drop down into being-ness and presence. She is the author of two previous books, Forty Days of Yoga and The No-More-Excuses Guide to Yoga. She can often be found dancing in her living room for no reason at all.
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Com and our journey together will begin hello David Lovitz welcome to Township on podcast episode number 211 I am here with Carly Grant and she is a touch of teacher and author and we’ve been connecting by social media and my interest is piqued with the title of her book sex drugs and most of the yoga field notes from a Kundalini Awakening has a very similar structure and and serve residents with the title of my forthcoming book and looking at so far the outline of the book I haven’t had time to fully enjoy it but to be able to get a sense of what How Deep The the rabbit hole goes it’s really exciting and I can’t wait to hear more about it in this will just kind of be the the primer and the incentive to go deeper in the future with her works better love to have you tell us kind of all about your personal background and then we can get into the evolution of this this writing that you’re doing and what you have offering what you working on the future gifts from my ex and a background I’m in my early forties now and then finally experienced in my life and for the Whistler ski Town it was an impact time of dance holidays and club and working and Hospitality sucking out the Mountain hiking in the mountains around America convergence are included to the practices and tell me if it’s a nightclub that may just like all of my possessions if I didn’t have enough self a wenis or knowledge to work with what was coming up so those things also. and I was at 4 time music please to Ocean blonde with my partner engaged in my fiance I just took me to the edge we took on the Friday night not a whole lot you know what your headaches to see on Friday night and then I may be going to a yoga class on acid which is doing mines post three times and is it a super teacher kind of looking at me funny and that just began this is skating unfolding shift in my perception of reality that long story short went from Bliss Wellness instant downloads of everything to eventually starting to go into deep trunks where I was speaking a foreign language my fiance he we can do it like I lost touch with reality and waking up in the psych ward guy what the fuk just happened to me inside that it was like trying to psychosis and then life post psychosis where I’m coming from that is very interesting and exciting and I’ve certainly had wow definitely profound otherworldly experiences where I was completely disconnected with consensus reality and ended up in some very bizarre situations in can commiserate on that as well but it sounds like also somewhat glorious do you want to talk about what insights that were happening and how long was it last thing in and just yeah can you can you even almost in a way channel the that you were at that time to to give us some some fun insights about the other side yeah absolutely on the fishing on his side so that happened was right on the new moon that experience and it was a Sunday morning that it began on Friday and sedated the Friday night and saw it was about five day experience to those who are astrological things happening in the sky and then a month later to my fiance ended up breaking up with me right side face before and that triggered a stick and experience of psychosis so I had two experiences and what was you gave me an opportunity to see how the stick and experience is triggered by my own emotional defense mechanisms and the way that I couldn’t handle the grief and I ended up disassociating and because I’d already my psyche was already right John is already to reduce a multi-dimensional reality inside that stick in his time there was a list of the translate State Police of the crate is coming through the wasn’t the language Exeter so going back to the experience it was extraordinary how to put it into words we just kind of go back and feel it was it was as if I dropped into knowing you know it just old things worth knowing is one way to describe at like anything that I needed to know I was at my fingertips I could just reach out and it was like I knew every witch every song every book dissolve at one point in the journey but it was also via quite strongly and other points and because the experience was being held by the the challenging relationship I was in a lot of ciaran Tiara coming up going to couldn’t communicate with my fiance cuz I was so worried or afraid of what he might think of what I was going through and he was looking at me like I was crazy and I can feel that so the whole experience was are the light with all of this fear of speaking truth and this way that I was kind of responding to his description of me as such so the where lots of different visions that came around the nature of reality and it was it was so the child that the world is different from what we told school and what we told and Society was being confirmed and just a little Winston’s to like it’s never about what we want and it’s always about what we need that I need for always be Mitch witch simplistic or like me what does it mean it’s not really a big deal everything just seems so important and so profound and so when I was trying to communicate this with my pain. He was just my voice doesn’t make any sense in like one thing I remember quite clearly as he was wearing glasses he needed glasses and I was trying to tell him that in the future we wouldn’t need to wear glasses that we were shifting into the what I was saying in the future and what was actually happening now and so I keep trying to take his glasses off him and tell him he didn’t need them of course he saw he needed them so it was like I had an ability to steal through time but it was very hard to ground that into recognize what was actually real for right now since I was really confused child and suddenly having all of these talents will gifts or abilities, and have no understanding or no way to put them in context or to ground them or two to use them it was incredibly confusing and since you’re fine and you’re very Blissful at the same time in like a deep sense of relaxation is well it was all happening at once interesting very time shake that distinction contrast between the Bliss and the terror and it’s a magician that I follow sometimes online and and he’s talking about really deep really edgy taboo kind of exploration spiritually and he says he’s a one-time very often you know the aha moment turns to oh shit and like I can I can get that sense xhilaration but also that the terror and so wild so cheap do you feel like you had any Transmissions from beings or entities or deities or anything of that nature any kind of like encounter type moments now there wasn’t any specific mbodied other beings that came true it was more like just the same to the wholeness of the Wonders and just knowing that would come through around like I knew that I had to return to New Zealand and I knew that I knew that was related to my mother and I related to my life Jenny what was required. The whole time. To really encourage my memory as much as I could with what I had to see it and then when I begin to do is to attempt to pass out to determine would like to see been truthful Vision or was that psychosis was at the the same scar I mean I was so laid him down with him scar is still so they will what was coming through so it was a real challenge for me to go right what was real and what was just the delusions that I was still laboring under and can I tease out the gold while sleeping the wrist and so it was more so in any language is a particular form of breathing like a hissing where I was speaking even as I was inhaling and exhaling and I had a beer and I was I remember quite clearly watching that passion and the other language that was coming through very much later like last year when I went and saw hitchhike on a hooptie section when she went through things was that I was missing a past life that I’ve had in the Egyptian mystery traditions in so that life was getting confused with me being here and now and now but if we not still. Join us we buy different lifetimes will bleed into the apparent here and now in a way that’s not useful because we haven’t eaten most of the ability to walk in those different Realms 2 walkthrough time whilst leaving things with a minute today yeah that’s very interesting actually was in a meditation group but I went to the one I think maybe just one time I went to this one particular group where they had this skill said that they would apply which was basically this really intentional really highly focused laser focused rotational I gazing where the train meditator would do the sort of left eye to left eye eye gazing with everybody who came to the meditation Circle and there were also practicing or tradition of meditating with your eyes open but they the masters of this path or the adepts of this path they would cultivate I can’t remember the exact methodology that they were following but it was replicable and it was it was very reliable that they could do this in and they would basically be able to once you lock into the eye gazing with them within a few may be a couple minutes of intense eye gazing you start they start to melt away and you start to see them change colors and phase through various genders and and and personalities and and and bodies and faces from there multiple lives and they’re basically scanning and seeing you so it’s almost like you’re you sure it’s almost like you just wear like a deck of cards you know or a deck of it and you just have whatever is in the current consensus reality on the surface of it but if you have one of these meditators going to shuffle your your lifetime Persona ask you no cards and then it’s a real powerful experience so I’m very much in a position to to validate your experience has it in for people who are I don’t know I don’t know how busy I’ve been such a Believer for so long now I just can’t even imagine people who would say that multiple lifetimes or reincarnation is is to woo woo or you out there just makes total sense to me and I’ve had enough I haven’t had what I think some people mainly love Ayahuasca people I know they will the ones who who are the sort of facilitators of Ceremonies some of them I just say a number of them who I know they kind of report this pattern of them if they do the medicine path you know rigorously honestly for however long it takes basically they will start to get through their get through the Karma’s of the current lifetime start going back to previous lives sequentially and then also I think can currently doing work for on behalf of the people that they’ve had car make and take them it’s with over multiple lifetimes so it’s kind of like a you just start polishing one layer after next you know going to this is so anyway that’s very just saw my thoughts to it to validate that experience and I could see how you know that I mean I would like to ask you if it was LSD that cause disorder abrupt jarring Rift and so having comparing your other mainly psychedelic experiences and Explorations do you feel like how do you personally feel in your heart about LSD is that your friend is it your enemy is it your lover is your Trickster yeah I know it was my initial instincts is it was the only state that hit that had triggered at but it’s just so I can go by myself feeling like that differently united life with my partner and I wasn’t going I didn’t think again really into the spice when juicing translate state tax return connect Museum to wake light on after the second episode I didn’t say I would just stop drinking so I can place on anti-psychotic medication so she created Everything Gold fangs because I was really we are you doing anything that might trigger I was seeing a man and he hit some ice and he was going to type it and at that stage in relationship I was still quite greater than my share of triggering my psychosis again triggering psychosis again so I chose to take some don’t much like really small dice it enabled me to really witness and hold the intense emotions that would trigger it and that relationship was a very intense challenging relationship gave me the ability to witness and feel emotion and why I hadn’t even had prior and not react to it was I watching the rolling waves coming and fully feeling of adjusting out in it and so that’s when I started to realize I yeah I see that the usefulness of at least a. At this point in time when it’s not something that I just feel like I need to do any more percent but I have used it again and it has thing fascinating to see what unfolds in the nature of the psyche and your reality I’m sorry I just feel like it’s definitely my friends and I’m curious about it but it’s it’s not one of my allies necessarily oh thank you for sharing that yeah I kind of feel like when I was more of Gonzo psychonaut in early stages in my life and I will go pretty far out with that luckily unlike some of my friends who who had the the misadventure The Misfortune to over like literally not to point of causing any physical damage but overdosing on LSD can happen easier than people anticipate and it can have dire long-term consequences and I’m glad that you obviously reconciled and in and had the other skill sets going to worry didn’t just cause long-term issues but I know people certainly and I think we all probably know some people that they weren’t intending to but it’s easy to overdo it and so yeah I’m glad that are you able to to get to where you’re at but I would save myself to I just I learned a lot from it but but as a I guess I’m way more interested in the time-tested shamanic guided and I would say like I I I don’t feel I like to ask you if you feel like this comparing to the other medicines really I think it’s more of a it’s like the nuclear option you know of and it has a lot of risks associated with it I was saying beautiful things can happen but I just don’t feel like there is a a a spirit guide that’s assigned to that medicine from the greater sort of bureaucracy of Spirit guides and I’ve obviously mother Ayahuasca the sort of Grandfather peyote and grandfather which Yuma and then maybe you know giggly Elvish alien creatures for the mushrooms or whatever but still whatever it is there’s some sub something usually there according to my experience is another people were at work but it just feels like with acid there’s just not there’s not a a sheriff of that realm somehow there’s not right it’s just kind of like you’re on your own I don’t know if that’s it maybe you meet God or you get to see the guide her you’ll meet the deities that you studied if you’re very religious but but you could also get jumped by demons and not get your mind back for like this lifetime so my students it’s worth noting went to when I did at the at least I think I had a quarter for 10 it wasn’t even strong stop imported tonight interesting take at it feels like the whole structure of it and it doesn’t feel like there’s any particular guy with it where is cannabis and mushrooms and it was very much feels like I am communing with a being the plant you know I feel that being with me with the communication begins with the intent and withholding the material which is very different psychedelic Jenny it’s the container and the context and the intention and integration the goal of these things that we wreck around it a crucial and we are so many people that have just taken it with what do none of that so that way they do start to encounter these more terrifying aspects of the psyche of the archetypes of the underworld and what if they don’t have a framing or ways to work with it inside that’s when things can get really not like exploring Consciousness even a ground of a triangle that is safe for a psychic how to manage Instagram those are very good points and I actually it makes me think that we have a lot of a lot of policy and a lot of I think good wisdom that says that you should probably not be drinking alcohol or taking hard drugs or psychedelic set at early stages in life before your brain starts to fully mature and what not but this gives me a sort of food for thought that something I’ve never considered that there be like an age range were there be an upper limit bracket is well aware it’s like okay you have to wait till your message to start doing it but then at this age later you better stop doing it cuz it will be more trouble the FBI could do more harm than good I feel like if there’s one substance that for me it’s kind of like yeah have your fun with acid when you’re when you’re invincible and you’re in your you know late teens or early twenties and what not and taper it off over it’s over time because it can be you can be destructive I think more than the necessary and safe I think safer and and as we’re agreeing both have any more guided more support experiences that have been nurtured for thousands of years with you know even if we’re not in the Amazon or in the the traditional ceremony I still feel like the relationships that previous human beings have built have created a sort of like a landing pad pad for those those helper spirits on Earth and who knows with where we’re at with acid maybe maybe that will eventually happen but but it’ll be up to the youngins is there any way not to put it that down hopefully if anybody’s listening this and they are there really strong Advocates of a regular ongoing serious LSD used and then by all means come and represent that that side of things but with all that said I’m curious now can you tell us about how how did the Tantra proper come about into your journey yoga was going to be cheap out of my recovery let me know when the doctors to speak to a concert with some kind of spiritual experience and then I needed to really deep in my yoga practice I did that and ended up teaching started teaching in 2006 when I was asked to teach inside I didn’t get no matter what because I felt that Judy an obligation to my students and I started reading into studying the traditions of John cheever Ray that I really felt like all that’s woman I can learn from because the way that she taught there is something spontaneously in my practice around that time I went to LA in 2010 to do my teacher training was Sheba and she had Christopher Tompkins who was a tantric practitioner in Scola come on that training and Cheech the Tantra philosophy and practice portion of it and that was when I was introduced to Tantra and it just felt like coming home and Chris he gave us this particular practice which is just a daily a very simplified version of a daily practice that he found and he has been collecting from Kashmir primarily like literally hundreds and thousands of tired so he told us his practice and then he also initiated us and at the time I didn’t realize the importance of that I didn’t you know it was just to make it just a site this thing it wasn’t really a big deal so I came home and just keep doing that practice sporadically for about five years still not really going into 6th until I didn’t want people to think that’s what I was doing so I just quietly and I decided I wanted to do a thousand a practice practice to become a master serious as I want to master and ask legal commitment to show up every single day and then I dropped the ball for various reasons. I made it to 617 days and then drop the bull and I’m now on my 15000 days in a row and today is his it’s just revolutionize my experience of yoga my understanding of it of Tantra and it’s initiated such a date process of literally burning through some scars in, like I feel and about a year ago they internal guidance is like a Caillou really stinks this down time for you to step forward and teach it which not quite scary actually because it’s a whole different way to teach it’s a whole different thing that I’m teaching and then I’m transmitting and because I hadn’t had any contact with Chris and I don’t have it at 8 to hear and use a lymphocyte a big part of me was like can I do that if I can get my hands on and studying and living it I guess but I’m not sneaking with a lineage at this point in time but it’s time you need to skip forward again this side over the last year my experience has been enormously and I will and I have been reading every book I can get my hand on on edits it’s been an extraordinary experience to to Really grasp what it was where it came from how is lost as such and what it means to us and a modern lives now how can we practice the coordinates of the tundra Traditions arrives sorry it’s on you being the last stand up and say I know this stuff and I’m teaching the stuff that I’m bringing it through that’s what I’ve been doing to the last how to use well yeah this is very interesting I find it at it’s is I guess it shouldn’t be a surprise but it is it is a surprise I mean I guess the only way I can kind of reconciled is that the Wilderness is a beautiful documentary called yoga woman and it goes into just how much effort women had to exert resisting patriarchy in order to establish schools led by women to teach yoga around the world like it wasn’t it wasn’t it was a man’s a very patriarchal very hyper masculine secret control thing for a long time and then I don’t know why you wouldn’t expect that you would most people not like in the west they think o yoga that’s that that’s that thing that chicks do you know where something is like actually know I was a super you know control tightly-controlled Cult of male priests that were doing this so that they could you know experience forms of advanced practice that required bodies they were basically able to endure these extreme austerities and his extreme really religious Pursuits but it wasn’t necessarily that was very it’s in the very closed off and I I wasn’t too aware of that history somewhat somewhat sensitive to it knowing a bit about tantric history but just that film yoga woman puts a lot of perspective or you’re like while we take a lot for granted about how westernized things have got but I bring that make that point about that film because it’s it’s it what seems to have happened and I love to have your perspective on this but it seems like this false dichotomy between Tantra and yoga or tantric yoga or yoga or however however people want to mix it up it’s basically that the the more fully integrated Township practices for one within Tantra you have a lot of Shadow work a lot of left hand path a lot of black magic and so when I miss my understanding is a basically Christians and Muslims Came In Waves over the course of centuries and in the process of wanting to colonize and take over and exploit the people in the land of course they’re also having this moral Crusade against the darker forms of Tantra and then now in the modern world of India is the more sanitized versions of yoga are all that really remain above ground and then this country scriptures in the country practice is most of the darker practices have been have been at least band and there’s anti black magic legislation that I’ve read about and a lot of the that the Tantra Mantra practitioners are just selling black magic Services as a sort of snake oil saying in the Glorious more profound shaktism and goddess worship and what we would consider to be the more benevolent and benign path of Tantra that we I think in the west kind of whitewash the darker side of it but it’s it’s like it’s like it’s the whole thing was made Taboo in the whole thing kind of got tainted I suppose in in Worcester wrist and the Glorious aspects of it were sort of sanitized and so like I would just keep saying things like the modern yoga that we know on the in the west is basically the the kids version of Tantra because you’re not caught the whole set of teachings that go along with all the chakras in your not taught taught about the sexual aspect of Awakening Kundalini and the end of the ritual worship of the Goddess that like it’s funny because you say I mean I’m just looking at this in a macro sense of the telephone game at the store should a happens with coaches over time and what we end up with in the modern world in the west and it’s like the the yoga that that I have experienced in yoga studios in classes and with the yogis that are really a bad that I’ve met like again as you mentioned you could go almost decades in yoga and never even hear the word Tantra once and you could also and then even more disturbing to me when I did find honcho is that you could go years into Tantra and never hear the word goddess or Shakti so it’s like now I’m very curious and I know this was kind of a soapbox a little bit for me but I’m also just kind of it’s always interesting to me that moment where are Yogi discovers Tantra and then realizes wait a minute what what why was this why was this in the track at the at the at the movie store it’s like behind the curtain that you’re not allowed to go into and then you discover your like wow I’ve been I’ve been missing out or I’ve been I’ve been denied access somehow so I’m curious just if you could talk about with your mind you reconcile these two words and and in your studies what you feel like is the now that you’re teaching how it how do you tell people ask you what’s the difference between yoga and Tantra I mean the first thing I always wanted for defined as what do they mean by yoga do they actually mean Asuna what do they mean by liberacion this is Chris thing I always wanted to clarify mean someone uses the trip between yoga which is half ways to self-realization alliteration and the tools of yoga which included Asana pranayama chanting meditation but deliberation and if it’s basically a phone or text or identified with doing the perfect posture the very thing that’s me to deliver I do is actually taking you deeper and delusion and illusion Chandra is a methodology or an approach to yoga so if y’all get is self-realization Tantra is an approach to self realization and it’s the fast way it’s like the way that cuts through the bullshit need the thing that is most effective most powerful most recent and my I only do it now for physical reasons it’s like there’s no need for any any other capacity Liberation in so yeah can someone asking me about what’s the difference between a month is not a difference between tantrum you’re the one that it’s an approach to yoga and then I also want to clarify that means you’re actually interested or are you interested in joining us because but it’s not Liberation so don’t confuse I really appreciate that you mention how this is the the way to cut through the bullshit and also that it’s the antidote to living in the Kali Yuga because that’s something that I read in very scholarly works on classical Tantra and the you are very rarely hear people talk about that in Neo Tantra workshops that this is a very tactical and strategic set of really designer tools that that are specifically designed in the way that I liked reading about it was this point being made exactly to your point it is for this time that were in which is extra delusional and extra demonic and just as bad as it can possibly be and maybe it’s going to get worse before it gets better so you better have these very effective tools and basically it’s almost it’s it’s the way that I’ve read about it is that I mean to be a little bit rude even I would say that in the the happier go lucky or Golden Ages in the other wheels of the cycles of time they could be lazy and get away with it because they didn’t have as much Flack and they didn’t have as much resistance and they didn’t have to fight back as much so but from those time more more abundant Divinity on Earth and more benevolence in the cycles of time and then they had the time and they had the luxury to cultivate the tools get the tool kit that they were creating for us to use in this time to fight back in to defend ourselves spiritually so it’s kind of like if we can find this stuff on Discover it and work it and put it to use then we can get through this like karmic swamp that were in now and then if we can survive it as a species that we will have as according to the prophecies according to the this this way of thinking is cosmology then you know our progeny will really inherit a more beautiful time of your more beautiful more Golden Era and but it’s cement what we’re just in the the bottle next year we’re in the in this this Dark Age and so it’s just that he has an interesting concept that all this is a gift that we need to unpack you know it’s basically like a it’s like a time capsule or not Time Capsule but it’s basically like a it was as if they they buried these these these caches for us in the scriptures for us to discover and Unearthed and then apply them almost like we’re you know where Navy SEALS or special forces or something of that nature is kind of way I see it so I appreciate that you that you said that for us cuz I think a lot of people they don’t want to acknowledge they don’t that’s too it’s too much Shadow work for them or they don’t want to I don’t want to kill the five or killed be a buzzkill talking about that that part of it or are you using yogurt to liberate yourself right United Liberation is not about making life better it’s about Liberation to about truth about realization and what I’ve noticed is I need a cheap knowledge he’s for working directly with Consciousness so as one’s a wenis and ability to sense the subtle becomes more more refined prices began working with Consciousness for the someone who’s coming into practice who is living there and then in order to become aware of what is happening in Chinle for themselves I guess it’s just an assignment of being able to be a weird one securing on the inside me and I can start to do the most subtle practices near me because of the point that we apply the practice itself is not the thing the print just simply create the conditions needed for the process of dissolving and unwinding to begin to Heaven prices of dissolving unwinding samskaras in comas and that will happen when we learn how to get out of the way and hold the space which is the whole point of the practice the same as the process that creates the conditions for the process of Liberation to be put into action if you will and then we just have to keep showing up and surrendering rating go and letting it happen and there’s something else that is it in the contract that I just come across recently that like because these practices were secret they weren’t in the cheeks the written down but the chicks are only a loser and describe some of the practices they don’t describe the real secret the real case that was just like you said that they would come a time when it was necessary for these practices to no longer be a secret and actually to be spread far and wine and I feel like we need those who actually care about Liberation most secure about waking up they need to know what’s going on for the my need to know what tools to use I need to know I had a navigate there in the world have never got Consciousness and they need to understand what happens psychologically when people begin to dissolve the SAS guys and comments from previous in this lifetime of course as well and that knowledge I think is it just not out there very much at all okay now I think for anyone listening who hasn’t read it acquires many books or baby hasn’t been down this path so far I could imagine that you’re wondering that you would love to hear now I would love to hear can you go into detail about you know if it’s not too much of a secret now that we’re talking about kind of open sourcing this technology and in the modern world so it’s what is your what is this daily practice look like that you’re doing and then you could go to go from there and say describe I would love to hear in your words what is the outstanding difference in the the the tantric practices that that for Liberation that you are teaching that you have learned in your practicing now cuz it’s 8 for me it’s so interesting every time I try to explain what this is I have to start almost from scratch it’s just like such a naturally kind of elusive infinite con concept and so are every person who brings it brings their definition to me I feel like I’m that that blanks later that that empty cup you know so I don’t so I’m not projecting my headline ocean. It is very obvious just reeling to hear how other people articulate this bass you know a very personalized thanks so please but I’ll meet you before we doing this practice at that rate and so the practices is to warm up links with a blockages are for the brace retention and then it moves into a clearing and a diagnostic running a diagnostic in the clearing on the system using State exams at the chakras and placing them placing the Munsters The Sounds in that area is another way inside its checking in to see what’s clear once blocked what’s going on what’s Happening stage three is the disorder of the dates of the practice and this involves mujras and involves Chun Chang and involves visualization and involves invoking the chassis Shakti and Shiva and uniting them in the hospice and that’s the third stage what I’ve noticed is it’s it’s not super intense car has like three things. I’m out of the system out of the field when that is happening which is simply sitting back and watching what unfolds now that you’ve laid the foundation and done all the other stuff so watching the movement of Shakti Kundalini Prana watching at move around your body watching what the bridge does watching the thoughts of flight paths watching the feelings that come out and staying the witness or consciousness of that important really win the dissolving and the release saying in the unfolding that’s when Visions come through strong emotions in Cecil line healing deep trauma order that stuff will unfold and that last part of the practice so it’s so powerful that mean to keep Knology in the more you do it the more it will be in trigger the prices which is the road to innovation it’s beautiful and it brings me back to my first Tantra classes with Rhoda Jordan who is my initiatrix into Kundalini Shakti energy and rotating the spine and using the Moochers and mantras and movements that were dance movements and various expressions and also the guided visualization so I feel like you could come in off the street and have no esoteric leanings be a total skeptic be a total materialist rationalist agnostic atheist whatever and you could have this very palpable introductory-level I call it like a chakra tune-up a chakra tune-up you know like you were getting your Prana oil changed in your getting your. You know your chakra spark plugs kind of reline and what episode people have this and it is it can I think the the Austin is can be like a good warm-up or a good cool down but in the center or the heart of of a tantra yoga experience it is this massaging and moving of the Kundalini Shakti energy and using the sound to activate and facilitate like a a very unrestrained and very unrestricted flow of a tenor he’s so everything seems like it’s some working in concert in harmony to allow that energy to flow with his little obstruction is necessary it goes to the places where it’s needed most and isn’t just being wasted trying to blast through your stiff neck or something like that you know so I’m feeling just to get for people to get a visual of what were what were you talking about what this what all this is like if you had to if you had to explain it to explain this stuff to somebody who is it super scientific rationale extended believe in any of the magical or mystical or Cosmic elements how would you describe the you note to a doctor what what it is that you’re doing or if you had to do you were doing a corporate retreat in there like we need to know what this is going to entail on like a biomedical level could you translate it to those terms could I change my nothing that right b i g u is a lot to do with that option within the sound is vibrational I mean I really just want people to try it to do it but if I needed so I wouldn’t be able to but it also takes medical terms that I do feel like that’s possible now when it probably wasn’t possible 20 30 40 years ago with the way that science is advancing and quantum physics in particular in their understanding of Neuroscience in the wedding Neuroscience is beginning to understand the brain in different ways and met mystical experience and understand that how to change your mind by Michael Pollan and he’s got some great Bryant Brian science in there that looks like it’s just you know the way that people are frightened the world normally feel like science is stronger and stronger and stronger people just going to get on that label is which is going to really help with the spread of these practices when people start to realize how powerful they are as Technologies for working with Consciousness with working with the Brian working with the nervous system all of us. Will you articular that very well yeah thank you I don’t get it I think it is important cuz it said put some point I’m 100% in agreement with you and the way I would wear that to it is to say that it hits the the woo-woo and esoteric and far out practices of acupuncture and acupressure they’ve been completely accepted into the fold of Western medicine now it will at least to the extent that you can you can put that on your you know on your standard American list of therapeutic things that are basically covered with your help with your health insurance is not considered too far out as alternative medicine and so you know if we can take those Meridian is in those energy lines in if there is also the data backing it up because if there’s enough research done in besides that using the scientific method and they can say well even if even if the actual mechanics of it the quantum mechanics are still somewhat elusive at least we know that there are results in those results are measurable and so it can be validated and and recognized and acknowledged and so I think that the tantric healing particula. The trauma healing modalities will eventually get to that point that acupuncture acupressure is and there will be charts of the chakras in next to the anatomy charts in in the doctors every doctor’s office will just have the sound and I think the only thing that I would add to what you said about just trying to bridge that gap for people who may be total Skeptics is that I was fascinated when it was brought to my attention that the the major are crows and there’s obviously debates about exactly how many there are some people say there’s multiple third eye permutation chakras is obviously just as is many different maps of the chakras is there are lineage is a tantra almost but we’ve kind of mostly agreed upon their being seven major ones but basically it’s it’s it’s been noted in end hypothesize that there actually is situated literally on top of or within or basically at least in terms of the the Distribution on the body there pretty much right in alignment with the endocrine system glands and so the pineal gland that all of that basically going going up and down the spine of the endocrine system and that makes a lot of sense because if in the in the chakra system teaching country you’re talking about these essential personality and information processing organs that the truck was our will that’s exactly what these glands are doing or 10th processing intense amounts of information and also really defining and in programming our experience of reality on a chemical level so that’s that’s definitely very interesting to think about that enter play and so this was a really really awesome expiration and just kind of bringing it accident the fundamentals of Tantra but also helping to to put into context the need for a think you’ve given one of the best polemics so far that I have heard on this podcast about why to get deep into the deep the practices and and really the case for taking yoga to that taking the Austin is to the next level of the tantric practices and so appreciate that and I want to say yes so do you want to just spend sometime kind of giving us if you like to share a sort of closing meditation walk us through some of what you would have to offer an in it in a a training you know take your good however many of you several minutes or more you like to give a sort of either a signature meditation or something just completely spontaneous that would be great but and also either before or after give us your final words in your website links and where people can go to get the book and also anything else you want to say about the book anything else UTI you care to say I’ll let you just take over from here yes it’s Six Flags in my siaga it’s a meanwhile of my recovery from that experience Awakening / psychosis and and understanding of what a treaty was so that’s available on Amazon only online book stores you can get on my cell as well and I have a I have a retreat coming up in Mexico September 29th to October 4th at so I can Hotwire it activation plaid Entre for the modern world I will really be able to join this practice we’re going to take him to practice and really looking at how do we embody unconditional love right that’s the awakened heart Unconditional Love and Truth which is the warrior standing in truth and bringing that 4th and 2 + communities because my senses this world is that the more of us that are able to embody unconditional love in penis after the shift will be on the planet and nothing feels more important than that and grounding it and Tantra practice in an understanding of time should I visit a solid foundation the people to take that understanding and stick back into the communities of one of the limitations to do wish I could. Pointed a wenis one that just came through spontaneously once upon a time that I’ve been using for number B is now so whenever you want to have you sitting and standing with driving how if you’re listening to this podcast just bring your awareness to your breathing just starting to notice what it feels like to breathe really noticing the feel of the breath and your nostrils you might feel it down the back of your throat maybe you feel it under your collarbone so and your rib cage possibly all the way down into your pelvis even your tailbone just noticing nursing what it feels like to braid what does it feel like in your body when you breathe you keeping your wenis on your breath also become aware of your whole body whole body awareness in the crown of your head all the way down to the soles of your faith goodnight is saying what the brakes feels like in your body but all such feeling your whole body front of the body back of the body right side of the body left side of the body and just noticing you noticing any Sensations any pain need a duplex for Delaware to bring the way of your whole body Men start to become aware of the ground underneath the Earth maybe getting a sense of sending root down into the ground just feeling what it’s like to sit on the ground on the Earth getting a sense of the soils underneath you maybe having a sense of the Bedrock with a water table deep it down still aware of your breath we are of your whole body Rosa down three play aware of the earth ground feeling yourself reaching down into as deep as you can go and then retaining awareness of breath awareness of body weenus of ground expensive opening up towards the sky beginning to expand your wenis outwit and upwards all the way to all the way to the Earth’s atmosphere beyondmenu all the way to the Moon Beyond maybe all the way to the planets to Sun and even issue expand outward upward to the sky to the infinite Universe still aware of the ground still aware of your whole body and still aware of your breath holding all of them New Orleans Saints All Saint Grant body sky now you sound tourist center of it all even as you remain aware of it all sending out so much love to you all thank you so much being for this opportunity to stake into share thank you so much yes I was beautiful and always appreciate meeting new folks doing this great work and learning new ways of articulating this mysterious technology but this was one of the best one of the best times I’ve had learning and getting acquainted and appreciate it so much and hopefully we will be in touch and you always feel welcome to come back anytime you have things you like to share updates and yeah looking forward to turn off Liam’s sharing and in supporting each other’s efforts I’m going awesome again for you feel free anytime to reach out in the future and I wish you the best of luck in all of your endeavors and will talk to you hopefully soon thank you so much I took care that is a r a l e a h. 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This video documents an assisted kundalini shakti activation whereby the upward spiraling energy effectively dislodges and squeezes demonic chakral parasites up and out through the central channel nadi without the need for penetration.
In this episode I’m joined by one of my all time favorite visionary artists Satva. We met briefly at the Los Angeles conscious life expo about 10 years ago. I was mesmerized by his unique approach to depicting divine feminine beauty and themes of futurism, sci fi, anime, and much more. It was an honor to have him on the podcast to tell the story of his personal spiritual and artistic evolution.
My favorite of his works is a collection of “Chakra Devis” which are stunningly beautiful representations of the personalities of the chakras, anthropomorphized as human yoginis. He takes us on a guided tour of the symbolism and intentions for each of the 7 major chakra devi pieces. I was extremely grateful to have an opportunity to share my appreciation for his works, it was like a podcast version of chatting with the artist at an art show opening.
We also discuss his yoga gear line Echelon Active and several other creative projects under development. He’s definitely on a path to transform and transmit ancient sacred healing and empowering wisdom to the modern world through an array of multi-media offerings.
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Michael Satva is a visionary artist with a unique futuristic new age spiritual aesthetic. With an eclectic upbringing being influenced by world religions, hip hop, graffiti, and the melting pot culture of California, Michael has synthesized a unique spiritual identity that incorporates elements from the ancient past and the future to create new archetypes of gods and goddesses for the modern and future world. He has worked on a plethora of projects from comic books and video games, to brand development and fashion design. Throughout all of his work he has a mission to portray women as powerful and divine by invoking goddess worship in a new 21st century form.
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 202 I am being joined by saatva who is a Visionary artist that I encountered now several years ago back up around 2010 I believe that the conscious life Expo and West LA and he had a booth there where there was just the most Exquisite activating beautiful depictions of yoginis in these representations of the chakras and I had never seen shelter more compelling set of artworks really I would say in my life and I since I was in a pubescent and developing and developing my my arrow so you know I really was attracted to the the Visionary art and a Sci-Fi art of the the heavy metal comics and the the even the Akira comics and definitely would like steeped as a as a adolescent in this futuristic sci-fi and an anyting erotic I obviously devoured and so I really was a big fan of Louis Royal as well as like I bought those art books at his in Geiger and what not and what would I think a lot of that stuff lacked for me was this activating sacred geometry spiritually intelligent Dimension mixed with the Sci-Fi mixed with the futurism and in with the arrow sin so when I saw at the conscious life Expo and I saw that the only things coming together it was just like so such a turn-on at to my eyes and my heart so I bought a shirt and I wore it around for many years and I love it and I want everybody to see this sort of Flagship part that said we’re going to talk about today that the Shocker Davies but we also talked about his other multimedia formats but really I feel like this is one of those very few and a lifetime epiphanies of really connecting with the work of an artist so it’s a huge honor supposed to have you on the podcast at this stuff with in and help us appreciate your work and I I just feel like it’s time and it’s right for me in a lot of ways to talk with you about collaborations in commissions and Licensing and what not I think this is just really healing and beautiful work so with all that said tell us all about your journey as an artist and how did you develop the skills in end of the wisdom that you embed into the works thank you a lot and I appreciate that you are you are touched by it and I’m just trying to manifest what I’m what I’m seeing from a from essentially from an alternate future that one that we’re not really seeing in this world one that the one we see is very devoid of culture and and I see a future that’s full of a plethora of cultures and the Melting Pot of of everything so for me that’s an odd future Optimist at heart and I want to see the world become a better place so a lot of my heart has to do with empowering women in a way that Society for so long has emailed them down and a lot of it comes in as a as a goddess worship and growing up I was raised by hippie parents who were in The New Age movement my mom was a yoga teacher growing up my dad was involved with a Buddhist Monastery and old Burmese Buddhist Community I grew up with a very open-minded a household that I was experienced I was some influence by cultures from around the world from Judaism to Christianity to the ancient Egyptian religion to Hinduism to Buddhism all of that was very present in my childhood so I was able to kind of piece things together and create my own spiritual beliefs out of that and and so what one thing that has come through a lot for me is just how a lot of these religions have avoided the worship of the goddess and just even within Judaism how it started out with the Ashera who is the goddess consort to Yahweh and even within Hinduism this emphasis on Krishna run on Ganesh instead of the different goddesses that were incredibly powerful and so what what I found is of all the religions that Hinduism really seems the most intact from the ancient goddess times and so I definitely gained the most inspiration from Hinduism and I feel like it’s really relevant to today because we live in a world where women are getting more power gaining more voice and so there is there’s a necessity to find the spiritual embodiment of of the female in a way that’s that’s like absurd to me that it hasn’t exist existed because in a women create life that’s just how it works and yet here we are seeing this this God created the universe and it’s just like a text but here on the earth you know women create life everyday so how come we’re denying the Goddess that that roll of of the Divine Creator and be in holding that sacred and so that’s that’s essentially part of my spiritual belief is and I I try to manifest that with my heart and make it current in a way that you know a lot of the gods and goddesses are depicted in their own cultural context from you know thousands of years ago but I I look into the the spiritual world for what a current Avatar of that would be in a sentence how how these energies and Spirits manifest in the modern world because we we live in the in a world where were most religions are intact and and unchanging from thousands of years and yet the energies have shifted so drastically that it’s I feel like it’s time for some new archetypes new spiritual archetypes to be formed to help us move forward into a futuristic world and we’re not tied to old paradigms and old beliefs but we are able to manifest new realities based on the intersection of Science and spirit in you know even using the chakras as an example of finding the the scientific and energetic qualities of the chakras and then using those in our meditation it it it it brings it out so it’s not just some crazy religion it becomes a scientific practice of spirit of Consciousness and no other influences for me I was very influenced by hip-hop and graffiti in anime and robots and Max and just imagining the future that we’re about to enter and so it’s it’s finding that balance of these really ancient religions from ancient Egypt and Hinduism to you know robotic Max and colonizing Mars and just understanding those two extremes and finding finding a balance of that and that’s that’s really at the heart of most of my work beautiful it’s such a joy to hear all this because I’ve been stealing it and inviting with it in into no really that you have these BF antiquing in really true and deep hearted kind of influences and experiences and just it’s great to hear that that you have such an articulate View and vision and with bringing us together and I’m curious do you were you a big cyberpunk kind of sci-fi fan also of the film genres that depicted this futuristic stuff because I’m seeing this is very Blade Runner ich Tu me to definitely I love Blade Runner my favorite book of all time and snow crab and yeah I love cyberpunk I’m just I found in the last I used to think of myself as a cyberpunk artist until I really came to the conclusion that a lot of cyberpunk is very is like women hating and there’s this really dark kind of chauvinistic side to it that I really am against and so that it it really brings up a really interesting thing that it’s kind of like sifting through Instagram sifting through hashtags right you have certain hashtags which have the same content and only men are looking at it and then you have other Hashtags with their equivalent futuristic contact that women are looking at and so I’ve been trying to find that that balance wear allot how how we can bridge that divide and allow for an A+ female-centered cyberpunk to emerge that women want to embrace because it’s safe to say for example recently in Netflix there was a new series about robots and something robots and sex and love or something and it was awful it was so dark and my friends was like oh it’s cyberpunk you’re going to love it and I I hated it because it just was not it wasn’t an empowering experience I got I want to see you know women in the future that have superpowers that can just Blast away any anything that comes their way and you know it depicted a much more Twisted kind of reality and so for me that’s that’s my Prime objective is the empowerment of women to to be as beautiful or as strong or as you know as badass as they possibly can and I I I I seen more and more that that they need to hear that because Society often doesn’t doesn’t show that and and so yeah anyway that’s that’s that’s why I’m happy we’re so on the same page with that and I have my own reasons why in my life story and evolution I guess I call myself sometimes a gender traitor not that I’m in transition per se but that I just stopped being interested in ball games and barbecues and not to really insult modern masculinity but it’s just I realize that I had more I got more enjoyment and more fulfillment out of spending time in groups of women and being kind of a tomgirl maybe a kiss if there’s if it’s like exploring the mysteries of the feminine and really really sipping the nectar of the goddess and wanting to serve instead of fronting with all my homies about how we treat our women like shit and how we’re all homophobia can it’s just this much he’s Mo it’s just really exhausting in a real a real turn off to me and so I was able to I was just started to see the energy of the of the Shakti and I’m wondering in your story is there was there any kind of like breaking point or kind of fork in your road where you started to grab a tape and seek more of that the shock the energy or what was the Catalyst did you have like amazing sexual Kundalini experience and you became a devel goddess worship or just where the goddess worship enter your the your certified the Zeitgeist of your mind I mean San Francisco is a very bizarre place in growing up there in the 80s and 90s it was a very strange mix of things that that made it very confusing to grow up there and that was because the the mix of the feminist movement with the the game movement had this really strange effect where they made all the straight men into like villains and it vilified finding women attractive in the strange way where it where if I found the guy attractive that would be okay but if I found a woman attractive I was in a sentence you know turning her into an object and it and it was this this bizarre place where we’re by the time I was twelve I had guilt for finding women attractive and I was the only one who had several friends who have similar experience without so is a very bizarre kind of the opposite World should should I say but it took me a long time to realize that some women love being beautiful and that there’s nothing wrong with beauty itself like that and and different types of beauty are found Beautiful by different men and women and so that that like that denial of the beauty of the feminine was kind of driver for me to be like no I find this beautiful and I don’t think that this is wrong I’m not I’m not like objectifying I’m I’m you know admiring and idolizing a certain Beauty comes from the Divine source that that women just magically have this power to have this beauty and it’s not just Skin Deep there’s a beauty there’s a Grace and you know different women have different types of Beauty in and so it just really forced me to to really look deeply at that and at my own my own you know contractions vs. what women in the women around me what they wanted and and so it it’s interesting cuz you you have this other side of feminism that says okay women have to go to work and women have to be just like men and then you have someone like Hillary Clinton who dresses like a man and yet she’s the embodiment of the feminist movement come president and yet along the way everything feminine is lost and and that there’s this idea that everything feminine is there for negative that must be removed in order for a woman to be equal that that really I can’t you know it makes no sense to me I mean it just even the fact that women now where you know at least in the 90s women all wore pants and it was like okay where were you know we’re trying to be more like men and that that was that was like the standard normal process and yet now I see with fashion with the way the world’s going women are allowed to embrace the feminine demore it’s become more acceptable with yoga and just how you know how fashion has emerged women are like yes I’m beautiful and I’m able to manifest is and and it’s not about men looking at me it’s about it’s about how I feel right so you know the name that goes to the whole the whole dichotomy of the Muslim burka vs. you know women who don’t want to wear anything in this that whole that whole realm is like is it the man’s job to like tell a woman what she can wear what or is it a woman’s job to decide how she wants to express herself and I saw an end and I see that women have every possible View and so there’s no reason that that any man should decide what what they want for themselves so it’s it’s all tied 2-2 you know all of these issues that are still really you know present today and and so that’s that’s really well that’s that’s my story how I came into it that’s awesome and it’s just so timely to because literally right before we haven’t started the conversation I just flashed onto Instagram and saw that there is like a flash mob sort of a thing of women laying down nude at the intersection in front of the Facebook Instagram headquarters I believe in New York City and they were holding up giant art pieces or photographs of nipples in a basically it’s a weave in nipple hashtag what they’re protesting and so this is Xavier literally we are at this moment of the intersection of what you’re saying and and I’ve had a funny thought for a few years now about how yet but if a man you know is if is threatened by the nipple and afraid of it he can just wear like we can save a lot of fabric by just using one strip of a blindfold and then head that all of that sitter putting all of that cloth on women just put a tiny strip on your eyes and then you know walk around with the assistance of some kind and then you will you know you won’t be your poison by their erotic you know powers whatever you think is going on but it’s powerful it’s a powerful incredible I if you using Instagram again all the most popular accounts on Instagram are women and it just shows that in this new new era you know after hundreds of years of Oppression or stop thousands of years that women really are on the verge of running running running the show in a different way and that men men’s role is we are the support for them to be able to to grow and manifests that they need us and we need them and I’m not saying that men are inferior it’s it’s it’s more in line with how the ancient cultures were had this more symbiotic relationship where women have their place and they had they had power in it and and so yeah so I mean if you go back in time it it’s it’s really a trip when you start researching like ancient Egyptian and a lot of the even during Rome a lot of the religious centers of goddess worship the women inside wood would sleep with with the people come in they were essentially prostitutes but they were revered prostitute so it was like this strange it said it was a different way of thinking of it and then as patriarch eat so cold it started demonizing these these temples and you know the cult of Isis was so widespread across all the room that the only way to defeat it was when they they turned it into mother Mary so that they could you know turn turn into a Jesus thing but but yeah in the ancient world women women had incredible power even when you look at ancient Egypt a lot the the only way of pharaoh had power is if the mother was vine where is the mother was an Isis you were you were not you were nobody if your mother was a nice and so essentially it was if you are Pharaoh you had to have a royal Queen Mother and that was just a very different way to look at things then we have today and when that when the the Greeks came in and they wrote the history they wrote all the women outside of the Egyptian history so we don’t we don’t have a record of of the actual history we have it filtered through Roman and Greek guys that were incredibly patriarchal so yeah I feel like here we are again at at a Crossroads and it’s super important that women and I don’t think all women realize that yet I think women across the world still have a long way to go but we’re at that crossroads where men you know men are the protectors and are the support women can blossom and be whoever they want to be and I think that’s super important for the world to even and all this violence and all the wars in the world you know as soon as there’s a female cat Collective running the planet then you know you think they’re going to want War 2 happen like course not I totally totally this is all the philosophy and ideology that I am totally aligned with and exactly you have make Make Love Not War and facilitate the the women to be intimate in a more of a primal for me looking at bonobos even in just looking at how functional non Dominator matriarchal or maitre folk cultures village-based societies are all of our ancestors worshipping the Leone worshipping the fertility of nature in the Saturn aspect it’s it’s really how we evolved and really we’re going to we’re wasting a lot of energy trying to fight that again ourselves and our nation state boundaries and borders and all of these and actually I have to compliment what you’re saying in this isn’t cynical at all it’s actually in total reverence and all of it but really when I think about when I was experiencing on Instagram what you’re talking about and I see like I million follower accounts and how Howell magnetizing and how addictive these images are for everybody and it really just reminds me that no matter what you try to layer on top of it or how you try to obscure if we are all seeking the goddess and we’re all just gorging ourselves on the imagery of the feminine and and all of its expressions and it’s so obvious there and it made me think of this this excerpt of me and Michael case we’re not rely realized we’re not living in any dictatorship we’re living in a butt ocracy would love to now that having kind of pushed out that the real the backstory for you and the meaning of this art I really would love to do a sort of kind of commentary behind-the-scenes expiration if you could give us a a curated kind of tour walkthrough of the it’s 3 sot for.com chakra Dash Davie. HDMI that’s what I’m looking at right now and starting from the bottom if we can if you can give us a little guy to Journey so anybody who is listening to this now if you want to queue up your browser or your phone to that page we’re going to take a journey of exploring the symbolism and the intelligence that you put into these beautiful works the ones that had captured my soul and his and it just kept me really seeking these expressions and I will tell you what these are magical sigils cuz as I look at these now and I’m like wow I’ve been able to manifest experiences with these prophetesses in my real life so this is something to study and and really poor energy into these works of art and and they will nourish your soul and they will get the hell rounds it is about diffusing that pleasurable experience across so many different Souls that it’s impossible to attributed to one person and really I believe that this is not an astoundingly long wide penis that I have that I think is perfectly shaped to do what it was designed to do and I’m happy with it whatever yeah I’ve gotten good reviews so far in life women with wanted to kill other women because they were so possessive of this thing that is to say all it wants to do is just be warm and wet and one of them that is so I have a beloved partner and you know I would kiss your boobs goodbye and tell him to be good every day knowing if she was like why I never did anything bad to anybody ever and I realized that was the pure essence of innocence is Brett’s cuz like you can never say that they ever do anything bad to never manipulated anybody they never play games with anybody they just give and give and give you know so anyway that’s another story if we could only all aspire to be as innocent as a breast but never do anything to hurt anybody ever never had to be told to be nice just what is nice you know x-ray sexual Zen state that people would have to meditate for years if they didn’t eat mushrooms to figure that out like become a breast and live in the consciousness of breast in this and just experienced pleasure and give pleasure and don’t fucking overthink it you know it as long as everybody is of legal age and sound mind and knows what they’re signing up for essentially we can work out the details but I’ve been in those moments where it’s like yes what’s making this woman lose her mind and ecstasy is 80% the emotional connection with other women that she is sharing and then I am there to be basically a prop to the beautiful. Theater of feminine understanding and that is when I understood For the First Time The futility of women trying to squeeze blood from a stone to make bullheaded dumb men who would rather be playing video games or breaking shit or glowing sit up or doing something fucking mindless and heartless for fun and just acting them and making them be a woman when they’re not a woman because they can’t explore sexual intimacy with other women because you’re afraid of the taboo of lesbianism and because it would be against the rules and whatnot so when melted down and was in a sensor Moniz were psychedelic ceremonies wear them all of these stories were melted away and it was just women in fucking ecstasy the agony and ecstasy and using my cock is a prop but also as an energetic current and a source of love and that my refinement was allow me to be in that space and I realize that it’s like it is so cumbersome to be responsible for a woman’s orgasm in a love making session why would I want all of that burden on myself it’s like I have to at my age I have to think about not coming too fast beat not losing my erection and in trying to make a sincere emotional sincere present connection with the person who I am kissing is with that is enough for me to have to do it now I’m responsible for her squirting and I like coming in the same say when I saw the leveraging of all these other women and how freely flowing the orgasms come when the openness in the connectedness is there with other women so so like I said I’m not taking a step back and now if anybody wants to come at me they’re going to have to go through that that ate a form of of grade school of learning in or black ass like that you’re going to come at me do you want to fuck me you need a black belt in loving me to get in and if you go into any Karate Dojo they’re not even said hey I want to do what you do can you hand me your black belt right now please here I’ll give you a beer can I buy you a beer and then you give me a black belt no stupid you’re so stupid Bibb so what was the quote from the movie UHF which is very a so you definitely watch UHF to understand where my sense of humor comes from but yes I’ll good good so so we’re solving this problem and creating these designer experiences and so what I realized is that the impulse for a woman to have this one-dimensional relationship with a man’s cock so that she wants to possess it so as you’re a very own the way for me to logically very very simple-minded lycee what is the how do you prevent that is to say well you will learn to get to know my cock at exactly the same time as another person and you will only have a 50/50 relationship with whatever you do you say like you would with your best friend and I had her saying in people may not like to hear me say is cuz it sounds good feed it to your best friend first feed it to your best friend first and I didn’t even think about the secondary effect of that which for me that was just that was just like I’m going to know that you’re not going to lose your mind with jealousy when you can just say here actually you can I’ll let you go first so that would be the the the tantric taboo test of transgression against yourself like that Siri you’re going to lose your mind will feel into that and start simple we’re going to dance together and you’re going to watch just that and is that make your blood boil what happens after your blood simmers down do you start to like so now it’s like whatever that point is where that demon comes out of jealousy you were going to rub the shit out of your clit until it goes and tell you what you’ve you become a demon Whisperer with your clit and me and everybody just wants to create more and add more locks to the fire and you transmute that negative emotion into a positive motion and then in the probably will be called conversion the opposite we don’t have a word for it we do not have a word except for that one which no one knows it set designer neologism but we don’t have the band singing about how good it feels to watch their wife get fucked by Adam Ant And so yeah here we come back full circle so we will be so we’re going to we’re going to have these experiences we’re going to sing about it and and so this is the this is the what the the the climax of this conversation will be in my opinion is is when I talked about how the it’s not just a theoretical Gaiden guiding principle to say oh yeah we’ll will like yeah okay you flip a coin and I have sex first with the person who wins that round and then I stopped having sex with you and hopefully it didn’t lose my wind in 5 minutes cuz I was so fucking turn on by the sexy after they all I got another $5 and it’s over for me for like they’re already like forgot every system anyway cuz they’re tearing each other inside out and everything and I’m just watching and trying to like make it come to live again and finally it will eventually but you should know I’m getting That’s The Hampsterdance the Tantra hence the sexual Jedi Knight training so that you can breathe breathe through and in have the orgasms without losing the love don’t be a 5 lb jump so hit the two feminists so I think I’m going to say okay if she’s dying to give me a blowjob then like we time it for like okay like we’re going to play your favorite song and it’s going to be about the same equal thanks to to her favorite song and you going to eat each other’s favorite songs and I’m like hold each other’s heads and massage each other and just be like holding each other from behind and Miss Priss massaging each other that they take turns but there’s still a potential in that for for jealousy to arise in forever and for it to be I mean I just thought of a way to actually literally short-circuit everything in a really beautiful elegant circuit and so here is the design and I will try to verbally explain unless they can so I love the idea of two women’s hands clasping together around my cock and massaging it gently up and down as they face each other and our eye gazing intermittently so the visual so far is is that the dear beloved goddesses or I are facing each other so actually agency kneeling I’m I am laying on my back and they both are kneeling with their literally as clothes into my armpit is possible so that I can reach Below in between their legs and butt so I can have a hand on each clit and vulva fingers is a good middle finger on the clit and to end so if I’m cuffing the vulva and able to use my longest middle finger to be stroking the each clit simultaneously in patterns you know singer sew and I’m basically playing streams is like playing guitar and make a solo I’m playing shift I have this is because the end of vocalizations or what I’m tuning for it you know so so it isn’t this beautiful instrument of a playing these two young hearts that are kissing each other and like I gazy and exactly is so I’m making sure that they’re not feeling left out in that apartment while I’m being stimulated and everybody is being stimulated sexually and everyone is feeling a part of a closed circuit that is meeting everyone’s needs and in and there’s no favoritism there’s no hierarchy the really so thin and if anything I am as the man in my back and that is what time trick Kali worshipping actual full fully pornographic and I hesitate to use that word was fully glorious erotic depictions of the circuitry of how this stuff works so if it’s if you’re not approve any 3 I mean if you’re not so sexually stunted then you would just understand that these icons are just road maps to the spiritual terrain of understanding the energetics of Shiva Shakti god goddess energy so we’re designing with that and we’re creating a maximum hydraulic energy flows in in in a way that is very egalitarian actually inhibits the growth of the ego and that sense of so-and-so I’ve experienced this in not that exact formation but that’s why I aspire to be a porn director so that I can I can work with people who are very comfortable taking Direction and are not going to lose their minds and so I actually had this conversation today they’re what makes me not a cult leader and what prevents me from ever becoming a cult leader is this one fundamental thing right but I have to study cold it is to know how not to be a quote later cuz otherwise I would just be cranking out so much Kool-Aid day Kool-Aid would have to invent a time to punch flavor you know I got to be sponsored by Kool-Aid the Kool-Aid man oh yeah it would have it I make my own Kool-Aid Man Township anyway after dark okay I wanted how they’ve not sued like I have all of the libelous memes and they feel bad for the Kool-Aid guy I didn’t fucking poisonous people man I don’t mean to be making fun of them and I really got to get serious about not making a joke out of the people who died in the massacre Crazy Eights it’s it’s it’s public domain now to make a joke to either the expression people say don’t drink the Kool-Aid it’s because people at Jonestown were by a charismatic cult leader who was it was an extremely right with it skips a generation maybe but that’s how memes get formed yes so I mean that’s how they sort of deprecated the roots and you say things that we don’t know how does the reason we’re numb it so they don’t drink the Kool-Aid means don’t consent to a groupthink. Virus that makes mass suicide be acceptable and so they poisoned the Kool-Aid punch and that’s how everyone can scented make give it to their kids and everyone is like this is fine and some people try to protest and they were silenced and some people try to run away and it was a nightmare and it was absolutely what I would I must not allow myself to become as a priest that uses sexual mind manipulation and coercive tactics to trade love and affection attention and orgasm for 4 unquestioning devotion into the point of suicide so that that’s the extreme case that that we that is a litmus test for if you were going down that slippery slope but I actually tend to want to study the mental illness of sociopath sociopathy narcissism and I would like to consider myself a benign I’m the benign narcissist I know that that is a character flaw that I am not how we going to like defeat by doing the past limitations as many times that night and I’m going to roll with it and I’m going to say yeah I will be like Howard Stern and I will be I’m going to if I’m going to be this personality I’m going to make a bonsai tree out of my own ego if I can and have other people help in the process but but things going going back to the to the cult thing and what me what gives me the authority to design this orgasmic Orchestra what why and how do you not just become a colder than soy everyone you meet is basically in that on that game board now how am I going to manipulate you to be in this in this position that I would like you to be in to fulfill my fantasy of engineering all this town truck stuff and and if I’m if I’m this is well that’s spit out the Kool-Aid don’t swallow I think what we’ll get to that for sure that’s going to be a we’re going to get to that but can’t forget that we’ll save that for the for the most triumphant moment the climax is when we’re going to use that it’s so precious now after it’s been built up so ever since a joke that’s going about 2 it’s going to explain come on your face it’s going to come on yesterday and you’re going to beg for it and so hits is it is I’ve had people beg me to come in the third eye and it was hard to resist but this is going to be almost as good as that sharing you this one liner inside joke and just a minute but to wrap up this sort of dark out thing that we were doing with the coal thing is that it how do you know how do I hedge against being the creepiest man every like people think that Barney the purple dinosaur because he and forgive me if I’m butchering the facts here but as far as I know he’s doing what I considered to be taboos for me which is charging women money to have sexual penetrative intercourse with them above all without protection and making that into a to me that’s not a scalable business model and you can ask your doctor wife but Barney I mean I get it and I get that that’s the love thing being cultivated generated so I think I don’t know whether I consider that good pressure bad press for modern Neo Tantra or what not but I’d love to have them on the podcast I’m sure it’s going to happen and I can’t say that I was a fan of the art form of Barney the purple dinosaur but but but I would love to get to the full story and also talked about the ethics and this medical the medical duty of care that comes with sexual and pinch of intercourse with anybody so anyway that’s the sad but who were talking about okay what if you were intrigued and maybe turned on by me talking about these erotic circuit boards then you also have to be somewhat red-flagged and starting to cringe and go where how old is this get arranged in what are the incentives and how do you how do you manage the Eagles and how do you who’s in charge it’s like you can’t it’s a scary thing but you wouldn’t work but that’s why when I went when I say what I realized for me the aha moment in my sexual career was that if I want to have out-of-the-box sex I have to pay lots of money for it from professionals who have trained her nervous system to do theater performance of sexuality as escorts or as Dom’s or as porn performers because they’re good sports they’re not spoil Sports about any of the stuff for the most part if they’re treated well and respected and then contracts are here too and they know what they’re getting into and hopefully they’ve matured and hopefully their brain has developed to its full capacity IE the age that it takes to actually I don’t say that to you exactly so you better know there’s a dimension of Ethics when it comes to harvesting teenagers for your for whatever Annette and I have had some of the best sex in my life as a 30 year old being fucked up fucked senseless by teenager in a row in a monogamous relationship and I will I will tell you that it’s it some it was worth the daddy issues that I had to deal with it was worth reparenting her and it was worth every bit of emotional kind of awkwardness that there wasn’t some of the an Amex because she was such a good full spirited Prime late night it was funny cuz I was like I want to settle you down and basically like I could teach your making a kid with ADHD sit in class is like no she wants to fuck wildly she wants you to perform more than you possibly ever could even at 30 and and she and she is not she doesn’t need these esoteric practices too heavy multi-orgasmic she’s fucking coming or brains out like so hard and I and I couldn’t sit her down the aisle still enough to do any of the practices that I thought were going to be so enlightening and went in the great thing is is it a fuck it like it is certain point you just say no guru there’s a song about it’s like no guru no no scripture No play just in the Dow of the thing so anyway so that’s a side note to say there is a sacred place for adult for fully mature brain develop adults to be having sex with teenagers and and I know that it can be done because I’ve done it but it also takes you can’t just treat them like a commodity please you got to you got to think about pedagogy Nikki learned from the person that you’re teaching teaches you things to like a circle so then so we’re talking about these ethics and where I wanted to just close that point about how I do my best to not be a cult leader I thought I figured it out pretty simply and correct me if I’m wrong but basically it’s it’s I dare you to to indict me for the the criminal and civil liability of misconduct for for for structuring a certain way so this is how I this is this is very simple as this is like this I said that this is a different the difference from a cult leader is that I’m a porn director I pay women to be directed and then I pay whoever I want to I will I will I will choose performers who I resonate with for whatever we would like to do together to make beautiful art and and I will compensate them and pay them to take time out of their lives to be a part of my design and to be directed by me they’re not paying me for healing for enlightenment for direction for guidance and I’m directing them and Meghan gratifying myself and taking their money in convincing mind fucking them and taking more of their money and more than money until they don’t talk to their friends because of and that’s how Colts are basically extractive from their students the colors are extracting from their devotees the difference is how many colors do you know that actually give their devotees money I will pay you oh now I’m making corned a porn director and I am more karmically correct than the fucking Guru who is fucking having people kiss his feet and take your money so who would have thought that the corn directors were the most enlightening Yogi’s to ever attempt to be divine and I have my favorites and I’m a fan of some of them I want I want to see the names but right now but that cuz I wouldn’t want to leave any out you know what I mean bless you all for paying people to direct them into your Twisted fucking fantasies and giving them that dignity like hats of their not wondering about it cuz there’s that was having a conversation today it’s like a buyer’s remorse if I say to you I’m just saying if you remember when you had to if you were old enough to know that there was a day when when when your allowance equals one CD for $15 so humorous if you never had experience this is important I think this is important teaching is important teachable moment is that is that and I don’t want to be today. Take care no man’s planning anything in them to have fun here but this is like this is this is late so here’s the funny thing though you think about I remember what it was like when I had to convince myself that amusing that a CD that fucking sucked was actually good because I paid money for it and I would not let myself suffer the indignity of having made a mistake so I was in a state of denial and delusion so so so feeling this isn’t meditation okay everybody think of something that you paid money for that you discovered was in the zoo is suboptimal and you used mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you actually liked it even though you knew deeply that you didn’t like it but it was called buyer’s remorse it was called the sunk cost fallacy of sunk cost fallacy is that because you invested something into this you have to continue beyond the point of no return because you can’t live with yourself other ways so that is this Twisted perverse placebo effect that happens when it’s like I went to the sex guru to get healed and he said for 9999 I would get here and but I but I could also upsell to the bonus extra double healing deluxe super Cosmic Crystal trademark excetera right thing and try before you buy money back guarantee accessories that you’re all of his legal he’s in fine print all the stuff but there is but that’s where it is we’re expecting to have some result that you paid money for and you will question whether or not okay did I was a hole in my heel did I pay enough money to pay more and some money and it is it distorts things and you did it it did contaminated in a way for that so I’m skeptical that I can be done right in that sense and that’s just me so what I say let’s work in the garden together my time equals your time and now we’re planting trees equals an hour of Yoni massage your prostate massage and therefore it’s a flat equal everybody has the same it’s his first come first serve you know and orgasms for work shirts that was my hand jobs for Humanity and helping a tree with two or so you’ll see it yeah it’s a white paper was written so is he ever gets faster so so that’s how I’m not going to be a cult leader is that I’m not going to charge people money to be Pawns in my game of or are you going to be players in my Game of Thrones Township Township twister you will get paid handsomely to be in my theater my game of Township twister and you can quit you can get any time you know that’s that’s that’s the thing to you won’t be like oh if I walk away now you know that then where I’m not like what I paid for I’m I’m already invested so much forever so so many different dynamics of of incentivization happening in this thing is so anyway that that was I think it is important to lay that out and and this is probably the first time I’ve articulated it on the podcast but I just was having this conversation today with this answer the CD metaphor thing where it’s like you know it did that it’s it’s a problem that way so so that’s I will not be extracting money from people in that in that way I’d rather pay them to be in my in my Productions and feel better about it that way so getting back to the fun stuff in the production itself so imagining that that would be the way from now on where I’m like if you want to that’s basically what I just described about that circuit of three people as a minimum to starting point is like that is the that is first base now you know that’s first base because getting into the circuitry of actual intercourse that’s where it required that’s where we get into the medical the medical responsibilities aspects and we get into more of the karmic sharing we’re really swapping scum he’s on an astral level at that point more so than if it’s an outercourse thing and you can’t go back once you know I don’t want to sound like a prepaid only sound like a six- future but but they were right about this mean you’re not wrong about everything they’ve had no sex for anybody ever. Is not the solution to people having sexually transmitted demons running rampant all over the place and it’s about making them your friends and making them work for you not against you and making them expose themselves properly and in you know where it’s not a pure realm we are not going to be perfectly protected in fear we can strive for that and we can use Kundalini and Prana and mantras and all of our medicines in purgatives and things to create a cleaner vessel to make more harmonious more resonance more signal-to-noise ratio and that is what to me this is all about and why we are missing out so badly to not be like I see this if God is wanted you got it for not created to nipples I can’t suck both nipples at the same time I tried some women I can do it on I’ve done it and you can do it some women is possible but for the most part so what does that mean what are you do do you limit God or do you just find someone else to be on the left or right side of you you know what is the big deal so when I think about this math equation how many erotic how many out of the box meaning not really the selective like subjective nuanced little erogenous zones that people get overtime in our lives but the out-of-the-box everybody is wired this way count how many erogenous zones you have and how what is the minimum number of mouse penis and genitals or fingers are human appendages required to simultaneously stimulate all those places it’s more than one person I can tell you that much you know so I just want us to start there and be creative in 2N to learn how to understand that we’re missing out and we should be wanting to gamify maximizing human potential for orgasmic pleasure because that is exorcism orgasm equals exorcism in some cultures who are Les Les Mis Sara Lee poetic about the floury discourse of symbols about sex life like a Latin American Shaman is said about her sexuality in the end in her how she explained why monogamous marriage was not really a thing in a culture that permitted extramarital sex and it was that in her mind and I am not going to say her name to cool her but I will say to paraphrase the essence of this wisdom is that to her mind it was just like an orgasm is like taking out the trash and that is not that’s not to say that it is mundane or a chore it is that it is a responsibility of hygiene in your household of your body Temple you need to have orgasms they need to be fulfilling need to get the job done and that is the exorcism aspect of it so the howling screeching all of these things that are considered that witches were burned forming figli sounds that those are the sounds of actual Holiness the set of holy the sound of Holiness is a woman’s orgasm and so let’s make those come more abundantly and let’s utilize map map the erogenous zones out of the box and then map the additional ones that are my favorite song and when you talk to me like this and this certain place I’m in the back of my head there whatever and then everyone has their own map so we can learn each other’s maps and if you don’t know your own map then you can ask people to help you there’s people who would love to lick and kiss and touch you and head to toe to find and explore you and and from a breasted state of consciousness D nice and yes I like to will you bring out the best in me that’s all I think that’s all you guys add that I can’t top that is the way to end so then really that was we didn’t even know that we put the icing on the motherfuking cake by saying you bring out the Best in Me so there was a documentary about at the peak of my desire to become a a rock star in the the crust Punk metal genre grindcore all that fun stuff I was studying that I wanted to understand and clock the music industry so I was watching every documentary I could find understanding music marketing and all the stuff and then I found this great documentary about about Jimi Hendrix and and I believe it was his fiance at a time who later became his wife if I remember correctly and she was talking about the time where he was building momentum and getting lots of gigs but still underground and she said something that stuck with me forever and if this moment which is it basically the hidden tension was used turn Express yeah we we all knew he was going to get sign or we all knew that you was going to take off he was going to blow up and so she said it was just about if someone puts put the icing on the motherfuking cake you know and I know and I felt that we we’re ready for that and we did some we had some we had some ice and get put on a motherfuking cake we did you get you always want more but I look back and I don’t think we could handle more so we got what we got and now I’m on a different I have a different cake I have a different cake mix and I don’t know if it’s that time I don’t know if it’s time to put the icing on the cake or not yeah I don’t know I mean the cake it’s getting cold she heard it mean if you’d if anyone has icing out there can it please be stevia-sweetened go Steven Johnson I don’t know how to hack them will work on that today I know it’s actually what I heard is that it’s a weird additive that they used to cut it because it’s so super sweet that you would basically died of sweetness if you didn’t like the step on it with some other things so I think that’s why I love growing Stevia and having a leaf to munch on and put in the tea because then you know is nothing else being put into it and it’s just as powerful you don’t really need to if you had the the live leaves one leaf enough will be enough to knock your head off for an hour so yeah I know on that snow yeah we’re going to put this devious fresh leave puree motherfuking icing on the cake I will put the icing on my own motherfuking cake that reminds me in 1 minute I just when I thought we couldn’t go out with a bigger bang this is going to be at because there was a a ritual ceremonial I called we called apart emoni where was the Psychedelic birthday party and we smeared cake all over each other and had to basically devour for the birthday gal of her own cake and it was just nipples and asses and I wanted to be in after from there I was my breasts Elsa. Playing for sure that brother and brother best me for sure but that when I got to put the icing on cake my damn self so don’t let anyone fucking tell you that you’re not none of me if you feel like it I mean I think we’re done I just can’t I’m going to fucking drop my phone right now when I might drop my phone on the couch citizen of the count but oh shit it’s next level add icy Cipher geise that’s going to have some cake with that icing okay thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day
In this episode I’m joined again by Dr. Yalila Espinoza for an exploration of her medicine journeys into the heart of the cryptocurrency and blockchain movement.
I first hired Yalila to advise on an experimental healing ceremony design back in 2013 after discovering her great works online. Now over 5 years later, we’ve remained colleagues and friends in the shamanic space, and have done two previous podcast episodes, it turns out we’ve also been deeply immersed in crypto-psychedelia.
It was an exquisite gift to be able to have her on the show this time to talk about this aspect of our life journeys that we hadn’t yet connected on, and see the many emergent properties of mutual understanding and shared analysis.
She’s been doing some amazing work to bring sacred wisdom teachings, ceremony, ritual, and other shamanic modalities into the the heart and soul of the crypto movement. Knowing she has stepped up in this way feels like a new multi-dimensional super heroine has arisen to build bridges from the amazon jungle to silicon valley, wall street, and beyond.
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With this unique moment of cultural evolution, Espinoza finds herself at the center of an ecosystem where powerful business and technology influencers are asking for healing and wholeness. While working in hospitals within a medical model and then conducting her PhD research on wellness and healing, she noticed the gap in the delivery of health services and the chasm between her own esoteric spiritual offerings and the specific needs of thought leaders. Espinoza found that her clients, while pioneering new businesses and technologies tended to suffer from burnout, depression, and disease. She realized transforming the human and machine networks of the world, like the Internet, must begin with physical, emotional, and mental transformation of the self. So in 2017, Espinoza founded InnerNet, an integrated wellness advisory offering online programs, one-on-one coaching, and retreats designed to optimize leaders’ potential to realize their missions with creativity, clarity, and compassion.
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Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 192 I am being blessed today with Doctor you Lila Espinoza founder of internet and a wellness consultant and she’s been on the show a couple of times before please go to my website and look up you’ll be the Espinoza you will find some very deep it’s a very deep Rabbit Hole added to the things we’ve gotten into in the past with Shamanism and healing work and now we’re going to be talking about healing and Shamanism through technology and through blockchain and all really new and exciting developments that to have have cut the world taking the World by storm and we are Kindred Spirits in our approach to I would say the the promise of of a decentralized more mycelial type of networking architecture for governance and for autonomy in for communities in in having that deep lens of shamanic practitioner work and in Journey work we can I would say really resonating really commiserate on the need for a a bottom-up approach to solving the world’s problems in in and starting with the financial problems in the capital distribution problems startup funding problem venture capital for women Founders for people who are doing philanthropic work there’s a huge need for this and also there’s a lot of people who are outspoken psychedelic Warriors within the crypto space I know that the anarchapulco conference has a a sort of there their opportunities for for for ceremonial work that that I’ve heard about and there’s also a crypt of psychedelic conference that’s happened at least once already if I don’t know if it will win next one is being planned but I had to have some some conversations with folks around that already so I’m looking forward to catching up with you you Lila and please tell us all about what you been up to and I love to just hear that they love story of you you’re you’re recording of the blockchain tech I love hearing about how people you know get seduced and then become Believers yes thank you so much for having me and saw the listeners I look forward to connecting and whatever way is in the cosmic alignment so it’s interesting because I’ve reflected in the past week about my journey with in Shamanism psychedelics and now technology because I’m giving a talk actually later today in San Francisco and I I looked at how you know focusing on the Life Energy centers of our body and how I started off an academic world in the medical model working in hospitals really focused on health and wellness and what does that mean for humans in in this part of our Evolution and became dissatisfied and then went into you could say that the third Energy Center of power and when it is Shamanism and in terms of you know how energy is used in in healing and really the base of a believe in Shamanism is around at the power to tap into these energies to know them to work with them and be in service to our community and so the power of the light in the dark and shamans choosing which way they want to search time is it really the the key difference so I went into a long journey in Shamanism personally 3 Anjali and going down into the previant jungle and having my first three months at Journey with Ayahuasca and tobacco and it’ll in isolation very intense journey and that really well 13 years ago was the start of my connection with technology and Consciousness I realize that now reflecting back because in that dream journey and isolation I came out of that we call them deetta’s I called him so much Journeys and out of that three months you know one might expect you and I are I love myself and I found God or if you know found my purpose in life what I asked that came out of that Journey with was the importance of finding a way to bridge traditional Shamanism with contemporary technology and that for me to be in the world and actually thrive in the simplest way what I needed was my iPhone in one hand and my pipe into back one another and with those two technologies I would be able to to learn how to reconnect with the soul of technology so so then I didn’t think much of it at the time but really then it led me to the second Energy Center and all-around sexuality and sensuality I did my PhD research on that and when it’s my own Journey around that piece of of my healing that needed to happen and then was serving as a counselor and a Healer around sexuality and psychedelics which maybe cuz I was speaking at Horizons in New York on the on my research study and that’s what I met in 2013 the sum of the blockchain folks and one of them in particular who is hosting me we became good friends and he led me into the folks who actually work Hill from the co-founders of aetherium in the start-up projects that were happening in your cat at that time is pretty early 2013-2014 and I can’t I didn’t think much of think much of the technology I just didn’t have that background so I couldn’t understand it but was fascinating is through my serving in an offering psychedelic Journeys Inn in South America to these folks in the blockchain world I was actually able to see how the mechanism of this technology in ceremony so my first taste of it was actually seen it you know hallucinating or altered state and seeing the connection somehow the minds of these blockchain folks are so strong I think it generally in the tech world that it was such a was so invigorating and an exciting because that I could actually asked him to show me you know quantum physics and mathematical equation I could see it and so then okay that I went to you no more of the written information and actually learning about the code and and seeing how and if practical way they would this information was being ground within the blockchain technology and then all the incredible positives that came out of this technology could be the foundation of a whole new like paradigm shift in the way that values is exchanged so that was really exciting to me and you know this this took me a good for years to learn I’m a slow learner and one way but I also like to learn deeply so I was learning it experientially and then your written material talking to a lot of the blockchain founders of Neo various companies and then he knows Tina and action and actually you know getting some of these apps and in learning me know what they can actually do and going to a lot of conferences watching Converses and and that just got really caught up in just the excitement you know this is a space that is just draws a lot of innovative minded future thinkers and innovators and you know just a sense of camaraderie and supporting each other and I couldn’t believe how welcomed I was as coming from academics in healing they they respected me and I respected them and I was able to learn how to you no make that bridge from my world to their worlds and really getting excited about the exchange of our information and so I just was seduced by I not only they technology but the people that were drawn to it and the dedication to changing our our economic Paradigm & in the way that we set up all kinds of you know housing and you know land and food and it is just so incredible so you know here we are 5 years later and I’m still right in the mix of it and you’re really excited now about virtual reality and Ai and how that can be bridged into the ceremonial space that’s that’s my journey so far in NFL well that was so amazing and I just was having chills and I could just cinematically follow along and when you got to the point of when you said you were able to see how the technology Works in ceremony that was so deeply moving and so beautiful because it’s such a multi-dimensional phenomenon and if in it’s so multi-layered into to appreciate I think I I made this comment to a friend is all it was a very very high level developer in his face and he and I I just made a joke in a recent podcast with him I said the Bitcoin makes Bitcoin makes crop circles looks like look like a play school set you know in terms of the degree of multidimensionality that goes into it and it is it is such a I mean and Andreas Antonopoulos recently and in one of his podcast video presentations and interviews he he said that when he read the Bitcoin first year of the Bitcoin white paper but then when you actually read the code it was for him basically like a symphony and he was brought to tears when he could understand the genius of it and it’s so apt for a for psychedelic journey to be able to ask for this for this field of of wisdom and information and Math and Science and Technology and code for it to just presented itself and dance in your mind for you in that place of ceremony where anything’s possible anything can be visualized and so I just think that is so beautiful on the inside knowing that you also this is really mind-blowing for me to knowing that you have this I wasn’t aware so much so basically we had already been talking and both of us had had this sort of like part of our subconscious basically beginning to be initiated into the space but we weren’t really because it wasn’t of our direct backgrounds it wasn’t an instant sort of I guess it didn’t click instantly for me I was explain how work and I thought it was cool and I was like yeah that’s internet money for anarchists that’s awesome you know but I wasn’t an investor I wasn’t a coder and it took a while once I went through you know the second Energy Center sexuality and and it was beat the psychedelics it actually showed me the importance of myself dropping my energy down into the first root Center where you no money safety you know security that whole place at a lot of healers you know maybe feel uncomfortable in or don’t have the opportunity to be in that often that I was able to really staying in this Center and part of it was that I was getting paid in crypto you know years ago from some of my clients who are you know the pioneers and in blockchain and I didn’t understand what that meant at the time I was like okay I guess they’re very kind and helping me open up my first Bitcoin wallet etcetera and I didn’t even understand it at the time and effort to understand it because you know what that meant for me and how to do the exchanges and things like that so I started off and makes it more The Surreal level of the fit if you say mathematics and physics and seeing how matters to me is a version of God of that Godlike energy and seeing how it comes down into the code it is beautiful really need and you see it yeah I totally agree and you know that I don’t know if you how big of a Terrence McKenna fan you are thinking of becoming more of a Dennis McKenna fan over the years but something that I loved about so endearing to me about about a lot of his talks was when he talked about the feminine Spirit of internet technology and how excited he was that we would be able to eventually use things like VR to give people immersive training or sort of it be able to create a visual language like the Ayahuasca experience where we could start to really understand each other better through through a universal language that is symbolic but also based on objects and colors in math and it to me this is such a fulfillment of that feminine Force coming through a lot of people who are you know he would always say that you go to a Silicon Valley startup office and it’s all these microdosing you know acid heads with hair down to their ass and I’d like to hear I know there was a time when you were when you were when you were starting to talk about Silicon Valley and bringing the medicine the same to you go and bring the medicine to those who are really reshaping reality from that level of of power of Technology do you want to just talk more about maybe without disclosing anything confidential of course just some of the some of the before and afters you’ve had the makeovers that you’ve had with some of the tech Geeks and how they’ve how they’ve been able to be massaged by that the medicine Spirits have become to Adorn one of them did gently say to me if they feel it’s not a lie to myself that is that a techie kid learning to love that part in myself and and and also honoring that you know every person is different in their enemies that divers field and that there are some common patterns that I have seen and the fact that I was given the directions psychedelics to serve a particular Community around the you know very influential and Powerful leaders in the text field that I’ve been able to track and and see how they actually lead differently in and really the the number one thing is the realization that the transformation is starts with the inner transformational journey and so even having the giving themselves that time you know few days it’s you sink into a different space in their mind right so it’s not like I have a container and say okay everyone thinking about your project Source. You know you know this go back to your family history and I want you to cry or something not at all what I was seeing is that the synthesis the stamina in the dedication in the Brilliance of these of these folks and that it really good-hearted people and that they were passionate about what they were doing and giving their mind that’s almost like the ceremonial space giving their mind a space to allow other information that may not be in their Consciousness you know at the time she come through and that’s where you hear about folks you know even the microdosing folks if they go to Peru and sit with Anna Ayahuasca Circle and I you know ask a question of it a problem that they’ve had you know mathematical equation or some something on their project they can’t quite figure out and that giving up space to have the different kind of intelligence guide them in in discovering a piece of the puzzle and so I find that you know when in general folks being very compassionate and curious and how these intelligence come together the other thing is in terms of their leadership is that once they are hard intelligence because that’s really a lot of the psychedelics the sacred psychedelics are helping us to tap into that heart energy into once they are in love energy seeing that the influence that makes and how they engage with their team member so you know more of a knowledgement that is it you know they’re all together in this project and higher level and it really honoring people for where they’re at in the heart of leadership is is learning how to inspire people to grow within the company within their teams within the project until having more patients and you know seeing the bigger picture so it’s not all about profit and yes of course I’m surprised and seeing that if if there’s a dedication to the why of their company and of the people that are there then that why and the purpose of the collective purpose actually creating more success and inflow with within the within the company so that’s one pattern also that I’ve seen Etsy the other that the third one is is around these texts Psychonauts of the learning how to bridge technology and spirituality which is always been one of my big passions and I didn’t really know how it so they’ve taught me a lot and in how this connection can unveil itself and in many ways and then coming from their religious background or spiritual background and then how they think of of math and in quantum physics in relation to a fascist like it blows my mind you know when they’re talking to me about this cell this Ray this field of the interplay between the Divine and the and form and structure and yeah I didn’t mean to cut you out there to say I wanted to make that mention so please continue the inner transformation and their their passion and purpose and then the second with the love more love and compassion for all the teams and and then that the more philosophical connection here that those those really stand out for me folks that were with me five years ago are still with me so I actually am able to track you know connect with the Divine or connect with the love Center I mean it cuz it’s not that simple everyone is sort of you’re learning a different piece and and so really what I love to do is trade space that people can share these pieces with each other and in how that actually informs that transition for their next step you know when whatever fits a personal life or professional life but it is still fascinating to me and I’m so very you know intimately woven in with with the baseballs beautiful well knowing now even more haven’t you said all of this which is so beautiful and invigorating and exciting and I just I’m so I’m so glad we’re just In This Moment having this conversation because it has been I feel like I’m it’s been extremely painful and in in triggering for me to to look at the shadow of what’s happening in this in this space which is you know I’m going to ask you to bear with me for a minute while I kind of organize my thoughts on how to how to bring this Dimension to the conversation in a in a good way I’m going to Omit using that the names of any individuals that I will not going to call anybody out or or put any putting it in the spotlight to anyone but but it’s it’s what would what I can see if we step back from from a more shamanic perspective is that there is a in absolute crisis of hyper toxic masculine Behavior that’s creating these extremely almost mythical an archetypal Wars of the Gods and end DIYs always think it’s a play on words to think about how Davis and Davies in in the in and they can talk about the devil’s right so there is it’s almost like The Vedic battles in the sky to me these genius mathematicians cryptographers programmers and them their armies of now the Speculator there’s all these high frequency trading robot armies that are trolling the warring factions and so it’s kind of like if you were to open The Vedas and you see them describing these battles of cities in Disguise and all of his alien foreign hyper advanced technology and the sort of drama playing out and the people on Earth are watching this drama and just trying to trying to create some record of it and most of it is just completely unintelligible to them cuz it’s so far out and so Advanced and almost seems like there’s just this war of the AstroWorld coming down and and duking it right above Earth dropping debris from that that Astro Battlefield and things just like falling on people’s heads and then people just scratching their heads trying to make sense of it so you have the bestest what’s coming to my mind when I think about these these programmers and their projects and their their Venture funding and all of these different puppeteers of technology in this battle between open source and closed source and regulated and unregulated in public and private blockchain Jaden and if it would it would it all is sort of sort of this rhyme of history is just these patriarchal warlord and we would calm just really do she really kind of integrated uninvolved masculine guys who are who are gorgeous and I’m just they’re just getting more and more narcissistic and sociopathic and they’re tweeting and and the technology of social media creates this really kind of Twisted Echo chamber and when I when I bring this up sometimes people will say of you know you’re trying to use psychedelics in ceremony and Shamanism as a Panacea and you know it’s not a magic pill and you know but I just keep saying like I think I need to hear these men do that family work and be brought into a ceremony where do certainly the ones that are that are just creating like threatening to just nuclear meltdown of all the cryptos in the opposing camps and just using their stashes of Mega you know stashes of of Bitcoin to flood the market and to manipulate as tactical that what they call the hash worse but that just happened in probably the hash words just knocked bitcoin price and 1/2 they’re just waving around these lightsabers and in in digging into the charts and and I one waiting for the sort of like trumpeting angels to come in and bring in the Davies you know the akalis in a Durga is going to come in and start grabbing these These are is Zeno by the by the Scruff of their neck and in and actually intervene so I’m wondering I know that’s a lot but anybody who is his familiar with yoga Tantra me all the scriptures that the talk about these epic battles or even from the Western perspective that the mythical Gods fighting you know this is not new and what seems to be the promise of the Shakti movement of Tantra and the Psychedelic feminist movements coming out of their group that you’re involved with there’s got to be some maternal wisdom brought to these boys and their toys you know so that she take it from there I totally resonate with this the Epic War analogy because it is real is that I’ve been to blockchain conferences and meetups in cities all over the states and and you’re up and and what really carries me through and I feel so fortunate somehow I have this eternal optimism and I certainly see the shadow I see the darkness 10 gauge with it and I’m still very optimistic and I think it’s really in my own connection with the sacred psychedelics in that they’re continually I feel like they got my back and they’re continually raising me up and and encouraging me and motivating me a stay steady with in the turmoil and I feel like for a lot of us and probably folks listening that this is part of our role is to learn how and these These are at War like an energy battle that we are centered and we emanate that that love and not always loving everyone per se you know that’s around us and in this these toys with our boys with toys and I do feel I can honestly say neutral when I meet them and I and I just said luck and I just what I’m doing is I’m like an anthropologist and I’m watching am seeing how they’re engaging with the but that the people around them and I start where people are at right so when I’m speaking to some of these folk is not like I think he would be good for you to do family systems work and come to this you know come to Peru like I would never say that I start or people are at I’m like what motivates you right now and you know once the trust his is built by and continually is is building and there’s a softening that happened so you know for me in 5 years in and I I do believe that there is a beautiful sense of respect for each other and trust this building and I’m watching where this energy takes us play so I what I can get really involves is the patience and perseverance and faith and that this is you know way bigger than me I’m being in service and being directed by these other intelligences along with my own you don’t be Discerning and where to actually Channel my energy and then I’m patient and it’s been tough you know I really wanted to get into some of these blockchain meetings and and I have actually is sometimes I’m like okay let’s talk about the let’s talk about how you know the technology is actually had of our human consciousness level as well as our laws right so you know how can we catch those pieces up to the level that technology to actually maximize the benefit of it and then you know how can we actually expire is that Founders and CEOs and and developers to to build that projects that are noble that have elevated intentions that that is a sense of good for all I do feel it’s possible yeah I totally agree I Kevin this is the most thrilling and exciting development in my entire life for sure if not in the history of the battle of Good and Evil on Earth that’s I really feel like it and you can see it it brings out the best and can sometimes bring out the worst but but really even those who would be considered more more super villains now in the space the lot of them started out as Jedis training humbly with Yoda it you know so they all have that imprint of that desire to do good eyebrows really very few people who I think are are fundamentally irredeemable I mean I don’t know if I feel better that way about anybody in the darker the shadow is the more potential there is to bring that medicine from those places so I agree with you and then I fly it’s I guess it’s easy for me to say or easier for me to say in some senses because I am a white mostly cis-male and so I don’t experience some of the author of out of the exclusion and in sometimes bigotry but at least at least Prejudice and you know it was through the women in crypto track at the crypto invest Summit in La last year that I discovered things like there’s only four percent of female CEOs in the US at least and then only 2% of venture funding goes to women Founders and that studies have proven that female executives are more profitable so whether you’re a feminist or not you’re leaving money on the table if you’re in any kind of a position of power in the business world in the investment world to not be creating more balance in in that in that space so I guess I’d like to ask psychedelic feminism Financial feminism women in crypto women in blockchain do you find yourself a building strong Sisterhood networks in circles amidst all of the other boys with toys as he said to align myself with very brilliant women in the field and be there and so we’re learning with each other and what’s just so inspiring is that some of these clients who are in their late 20s early 30s forging ahead and they sell I don’t know how they do it but they just have this determination and and also feminine ways of going through these hurdles in their in their workplace and them in the company’s and let me know some of them Founders and dealing with the hiring of a lot of that males and and and how that that plays out in the power struggles and they just they have such Grace and I just witness them you know managing it all in a way that’s it really inspiring and stay and then when they’re also going through these psychedelic Journeys I see that they just become more and somebody’s determined and focused and incompetent and and you know they’re also patients over time I see them gain their respective of their colleagues and you take a couple years of storming and and then there’s this is kind of settling that happens and so I I am extremely inspired by the women in blockchain in particular and just wants to be in service to them in any way I can so that they can continue to forge ahead also well on that note I would say we should definitely spend the rest of this our here just having you tell us all about more in detail what it is that you provide and what you’re offering and what your projects are now we got I think this was a good sort of philosophical overview and Andre connection for you and me to to get to get caught up in the space but I really would like to hear more and maybe we can also I guess we can go for as long as you are available at today and in this timeframe to talk about your projects and introduce what you’re doing with your hair with your new your new Ventures and and really make this more of a of a promotional pitch for the remainder promotional pitch for me that’s it really exciting right now is I would love to connect with folks who are working in the VR AI space and are interested in psychedelics not only interested but wanting to create platforms where people can engage in these different fields at virtually and so I know it’s happening I am in San Francisco right now I’m going to meet some some folks in the field tonight and for anyone who’s listening that I would just appreciate a shout out and I’m please connect with me that info info a 10.1 i n n e r o n e because I I really interested in collaborating I would love to work on a team whether it’s already clean a project that’s happening right now or someone wants start one I just have so many ideas about how this could coming to that material in the world and I know a lot of folks in the you know blockchain developers as well as healing practitioners and really wanting to be a bridge between these worlds in and connect folks who can contribute to a project like this so that’s my first pitch in terms of concrete offerings right now I think my two favorite people in the world now that had I met through the blockchain space are this Penelope and America they are the Cyber code Twins and their East LA born and raised Latina women in Tech who have taken the World by storm they’ve got TED Talks they have been winning hackathons and they have I think one of the things they developed together with second virtual reality drug and alcohol rehabilitation immersive experience for people who can’t afford to go to like Celebrity Rehab and that’s one application I don’t know what their personal interest is necessarily in psychedelic Shamanism however they seem to be very open-minded and they are 8 leaving One Like a White House award or something like that they’re just absolutely storming the charts of the women in crypto and I’ll send you a link to one of their TED talks but yeah I know that there it would probably be really good allies in that and not space I just wanted to mention them and then yeah go on please continue practical way the internet is offering three different project and the 1st is out there called dinner one Retreats and so these are live 225 day Retreats held in beautiful places for folks to get back to their vital bodies and be rejuvenated by nature to these are wellness retreats and you know cluding Mayo massage and Sound by sand yoga and meditation life coaching and team-building exercises and then some of the in South America do include Ayahuasca and someone Mexico include psilocybin so those are those Retreats and then there is an online program it’s called zero to one building blocks to Wellness and it is I was here I consider it more of like a integration platform for people so that they can continue harvesting the the fruit of what comes out of these lab Retreats or vice a versa can be a good preparation for Allegra tree and it’s focusing on daily Wellness practices and it’s interesting after how many years in the Psychedelic world I’ve actually gone back to the basics and I feel that you know it’s wonderful to be in a journey and see all kinds of amazing things and we still are in bodies in this lifetime in this earth and that I’m going back to you what we are drinking and eating our sleeping near so many books speakers that focus on this and a night it’s because it’s so essential it’s in so really the program going back to the basics and I just reminding us to be but I guess being mindful of our daily practices so that’s the 0 to 1 and then there’s another piece that is it’s actually new and it’s it’s pretty exciting I’m working with a group in Europe and it’s called Legacy Ventures and we’re going to be offering Retreats that actually is facilitated by many different facilitators and shamans from around the world and and so I’m just one of them one of many and offering Retreats on the difference element so have a 1 focus on fire and having fire ritual what does that mean in our lives and in her a lot of these folks are in our Business Leaders CEOs and and then another Retreat focus on the water and the Earth in the air and then that sacred Center so that’s just starting this year and it’s it’s really exciting for me to be cooperative with other leaders and also I just opening up to the European folk sand and feeling so what is that like and what are they wanting these days and then see the parallels in the differences between the United States and Canada and Mexico so that. In a nutshell is what I’m up to you for this year that is so amazing what we do a push-up real needs everything you’re doing now more than ever and I’m just so thrilled I feel like I’m reading a comic book or something in your just the new Marvel comic book superhero in this of swords and in just adding these new new levels of armor and magic and Empower I can just see I see the the sort of thing I get a better sense of the multi-dimensional warrior Goddess that you have just become an indigenous is so exciting to me to tell me more folks who I don’t have to run into a brick wall trying to explain the the seriousness the timeliness the importance the relevance the you know it’s really really demoralizing and sometimes heartbreaking for me when I get stonewalled it’s not about it’s not about losing out on the opportunity 4000 X Games it’s about losing out on the under this will be some I see it is one of the most rare opportunities in the history of political discourse certainly political economic discourse where the radical libertarian and some people would like to use the word left anymore but definitely from the the libertarian to the anarchist perspective this is one of the first time ever that anything from these camps actually became not just mainstream but was so Superior that it was subversive as a side effect of its superiority to the to the to the disorder let me know Malcolm and Malcolm X I believe said something like if you want it over to the system you have to create a better one system but make the old system obsolete is really what it comes down to so I love it when people talk about the Legacy banking system and the Legacy voting system and it’s like we’re already in this Ann turkel crypto Anarchist future where people from Wall Street are defecting enjoying the Occupy Wall Street movement and bringing their bags of capital with them and you know I love people like I will say the name of Joe Lubin I think he is one of my most beloved and endear real shining examples of coming from a feminine place of problem solving and team building in and you see how his Vibe is really impenetrable to all of the pickings and and browbeating is of the progressive alt masc so cheers to him and into the others and Andria’s and other people who keep out of the drama so yeah before I go too far off into the weeds I want to thank you so much again in to see if you would like to share your your website links and maybe if you would if you have time to just give us a bit of a closing meditation that that brings us all together those who were cryptophobia can those who are crypto douchiest and everything in between let’s let’s all make space for each other around this fire. One i n n e r o n e and email is info at in and either myself or my members will respond as soon as we can definitely look forward to connecting with some of you listening now I know that there’s Brilliance all around us and it’s a matter of coming together and matching are our gifts together okay so in terms of thinking of our energies I invite everyone to receive a deep breath then I’ll land here together and reflecting on all this information that has been shared and inviting you to feel in your body where does this information land for you how are you feeling is there an a butterfly’s is your mind buzzing butterflies in the belly butterflies in the heart what’s with activated for you and breathing in is energy and I asked if you’re willing to commit 21 action step spell connecting with you know how you’re feeling right now are you feeling at your best at your most joyful place in this moment in this conversation and then are you committed to an action step that will actually Manifest this feeling and you are unique Vision in the world is taking a minute be very simple drinking more water and it could be very big like asking the sacred psychedelic that you next connect with is it for you anything in between what’s one action step you’re willing to commit to you within the next seven days that will feed nurture your essential contribution in this world then yourself and externally with in the world mache beautiful Williston I just want to say Dad don’t be a stranger please please keep me posted and in the anything that’s coming up any new developments that you want to share even if it’s just a little Clipper Sound by three segments you always feel always free to a to send me anything or to Anna to take to come back on the show I think you were definitely in good company with the other folks who have to drive me on this journey if I explain this material and yeah it’s it’s it’s a real joy to to have met and you know I’m just thinking back into the feeling back into the origin story of how you and I connected in the place that I was in in the what would I resonated with you and the sort of healing journey in the wounded healer journey and now and it’s like look at us now you know we have survived and we’re driving and that’s great so I acted with and also the listeners and one thing anyone who’s still listening if you’ve made it this far. 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This episode is the audio track from a video I released a couple of years ago that demonstrates a solo self love ritual based on tantric principles and practices. In the video I explain and show how to treat yourself the way you’d want to be treated by a lover, or how you’d want to treat a lover. Giving yourself adequate time, care, nurturing, whole body touch and massage, sacred set and setting, and more. The emphasis is on the practice of sexual energetic cultivation and directing orgasmic energy up to and through each of the seven major chakras. The intention is to activate, energize, and “tune-up” the chakras with the application of loving attention and orgasmic energy. Please be warned this is for mature individuals only, I have heard from those who’ve watched and followed along with the video that it has been beneficial for all genders.
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Com and our journey together will begin how about your beloved’s welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 151 I have something interesting to share today which is the audio from a video recording I did and now it’s been a couple years back it was just after I finish the time trick counselor certification training course and and I can’t I went back to Vegas where I was living with her at the queendom with my beloved at the time magic fucking pussy or was it Eternal beloved but it has since moved on to the new adventures in life and so when we were working together very closely we were collaborating on creating media and actually she was the one who financed my my training which was a great gift in part of our sort of co-creative alchemical trade life coaching for a bit of thumb Financial cushioning and support that she was able to afford and when I came back from that I just went right into wanting to share and teach what I had learned and I have been doing a lot of phone sex and a lot of Clips sell it sales for my male clients on various platforms and so I wanted to see them more content and in some fresh material so we recorded this basically it’s and it’s an hour long video guided meditation demonstration or a sort of tantric self-love ritual where I go through pretty much the whole procedure of how a male with Tantra principles and practices in mind and that hand would really go through the process if I’m in the procedure of loving oneself as fully as you would hope to have a dream romantic encounter with someone else and really imbuing oneself with that level of duration intensity and level of care that really sets you up for being really switched on and and tuned up as far as the chakras go and the energy flow it goes and then no big part of that practice is the cultivation of sexual energy through semen retention and you know what is the next level on top of just not ejaculating when you have the the genital sneeze response and you want to have an orgasm that you that you would have jaculate from it is as opposed to letting it go U-Pull-It upwards you sip it up and there’s many techniques for doing that and what from a Hindu tantric perspective what is possible from that from that Paradigm is the the process of actually moving the orgasmic energy around and directing it into various chakras various body parts various parts of the astral body and the ultimate objective is to really purify and cleanse the pathway up the chakras sort of preparing preparing and lubricating and stretching and making limber and agile the whole human energetic system so that the the Kundalini Shakti can rise and flow and not be disruptive or or injurious as it flows through the body so no massage self massage and really working and lathering up the orgasmic energy and pulling it through the desert of Chambers the the divorcees of the chakras and one-by-one moving up this major 7 chakras in applying literally applying and directing visualizing moving the orgasmic energy at the point of inevitability which would otherwise be in ejaculation moving that energy upwards and watching the fireworks in seeing the the colors of the chakras kind of comes to life so that was the only things that I was doing in my solo practice and I decided to put a video together since it was fresh in my mind everything I’ve been taught in the course and so we went ahead and set up a nice little room and we we shot this footage and a couple of interesting paranormal things happen one of which was that Magic fucking pussy she actually started to to breathe heavily and she literally fainted during during a probably about halfway through we were we were I was just doing going through the process send kind of really the the billowing I guess you could say I’m in the way of Billows is used to kind of fan the Flames of a fire and they use for blacksmithing and whatnot it said there’s a lot of energetic hydraulic air pressure and what not but basically that was creating a sort of orgasmic for text and this weird entrainment thing happened in she just literally collapsed to the floor likely she would be no was able to catch yourself didn’t you know enjoy yourself at all but that we had obviously cut and start to take over but we both got a laugh a cat and she was if she was okay but it was interesting effect so be warned is some of these techniques can obviously you know be require a bit if of warming up to and so I would say if you do follow along which I know a lot of people have from watching a video and it had great results and a video is on my website it’s protected under an age verify screen so you have to be a mature adult person to view it and what if you do decide if you and if you do proceed to listen to this be warned it is not raunchy it’s not Fowler or crude I believe it’s very sacred what it is you know an athletic performance of the procedure of doing this which does you hear some heavy breathing and 7 fapping noise but nothing you haven’t seen or heard in the movie Pump Up the Volume very hard on played by the illustrious Christian Slater butt yeah that is a great film to watch if you haven’t watched it before Pump Up the Volume very much at a source of inspiration for me he was a pirate pirate punk rock Pirate Radio chronic masturbating is revolutionary Warrior hacking The Matrix in the Suburban 80s and that was a powerful inspiration for sure but anyway if you are so inclined and so brave and it does appeal to you whatever your gender maybe I know people of various genders have have watched along with his video and and now they’ll be no opportunities to sample this audio and see if it’s something might be interested in this video has been has an interesting history it was going viral on a couple of different platforms and then it was deplatformed and I don’t know exactly why because there’s other videos that actually go into far more explicit in far less I would say even respectable territory that that seemed to flourish on on those platforms so I’m not going to take any blame I certainly am I a beneficiary of of some of these platforms so you know if they strike down something I’ve done that I’m just going to I’m not going to raise a fuss I will just so you don’t have to position it in a more friendly location online so you can watch it in better than my website if you were of age and you can listen to this audio and yeah I’ve heard of great results for people just following along and if you don’t want to follow on follow along directly with exactly what’s happening then you know you can listen to it for your information and I hope you enjoy and it’s a little bit yeah kind of crossing a threshold 2 2 2 play this format for audio education internet and entertainment but I do believe that it is a value and I want it to ya really shift the Paradigm for what what the options currently are which is fat or nofap and there’s really a a much higher ground to to climb 2 with all this so with all that said please enjoy thank U Namaste today we’re going to talk about something that I believe we can all benefit from which is the art of self massage before and during your erotic self-stimulation rich I wish we all love to do and you know a lot of guys unlike the female sexual anatomy the male sexual anatomy and physiology is sort of setup so that it’s very easy to get quickly aroused and you feel the impulse to just regret vigorously and stroke the shaft to tell you get an explosion of ejaculatory energy and fluid going outward from the genitals but we want to do is actually build that energy up and actually send that energy of What’s called the central Channel if you study yoga or Tantra it’s in front of the spine and it’s a channel where it connects all of your different Energy Center is in the energy that comes from the genitals can be used to nourish and bathe all the organs and all of the subtle energetic and and physical tissues of the whole a physical and energy Anatomy so there’s a higher level benefit to spending more time cultivating more feminine type of arousal that begins with opening the heart if you can imagine that a lot of times in the culture that we live in you know the rapid fire business in can a dog eat dog Cutthroat working world and there’s not a lot of sensitivity or sentimentality about life so the take me to mail Heart Center of emotions is chronically shut down the chronically cold and kind of sealed off so what’s the first thing you want to start with is just to drop out of the mind out of the Mind chatter out of that constant intellectual thinking mode and drop into the body and really just anchor into this heart center right here in imagine that your kind of unscrewing the lid that’s tied down on it throughout do life and you’re making counterclockwise circles as if you’re unscrewing a lived-in opening up that heart center and kind of spiraling it out some people have ability to actually visually see that there is a green colored Energy Center here that can be widely expanded and if you ever felt the sensation of love with a partner sexual partner romantic partner or even a pet or a family member this area of energy will swell up and you’ll feel the sense of his some people can actually see that and what appears in the mind play to be the color green actually emanating and radiating outward so we’re loving ourselves we’re not just trying to jerk ourselves off and release that energy outward for trying to build and use the erotic energy connected with the heart energy and connect it with several other energy centers that I’ll talk about in a little bit but it’s always good before you start your your vigor self pleasuring action to connect the general energy with the heart so why is it important to connect open up the heart energy before you begin your self-stimulation if you don’t love yourself how can you expect to love anyone else or have them know how to love you if you don’t really know what that feels like so just understand the mechanics of love you want to be overflowing with internally generated love and just be exhibiting that love and connecting with your sexuality said it when you are with human Partners you have the ability to share that energy and you’re just magnetizing people of the like energy the same level of self-love you don’t want to be a burden to someone else this love energy and you don’t want to take on someone else’s depleted energy it’s going to suck Ramirez you want complementary what’s the purpose of this is the purposive intelligently using this energy for higher purposes and we all could use more and better love in our lives especially in the modern world so it all starts in the bedroom and all starts with you and I’m going to help you to take it to the next level so as I said I find a lot of times when I’m talking to my dear beloved on the phone and exploring their erotic Minds that they’re quick to just begin the physical manual stimulation and they’re not taking time to really romance themselves energetically so after you begin opening the heart anchor in your Consciousness there really it’s beneficial to give yourself even just a several minute full body massage using organic coconut oil which is a favorite type of oil has nutritive properties it’s obviously edible is fragrant and it actually is kills bacteria fungus in viruses so it’s it it’s a very beneficial formula for a natural lubricant to use it’s good for obviously lubricating a sexual organs but just is a all-around nightstand staple you want to have it available and when you call me I want you to have this at your side I want you to be already in the process of gathering up your energy field and in working this massage oil into your skin so that it just sightings the senses and brings your your your awareness into the body and it spreads that love energy from your heart all over and throughout your body so I’m just going to demonstrate what that looks like you’re a sad and shocking that we all know what massages are we definitely don’t get enough of them and we very rarely give ourselves permission to love and care for a cell’s enough to administer it to herself so I feel like five-six bucks very cheap it’s becoming very popular now for a lot of different lifestyles you obviously this is a nice little. throw here on the bed so you don’t want to get in a little obvious lie go right through sheets and I’ll go into your mattress so it’s good to have a thicker you know whether it’s towels or something it’s easy to wash that you throw on top of your bladder your blankets panda just start from the feet and work your way up nothing fancy you don’t have to know any dirty highly technical skills really it’s the intentionality that you’re putting into it how much love and attention to you give to your extremities these feet you know that you work so many miles in Treasure life how how much love and care intention do you really give them an appreciation you really put your full attention energy after showing them how much love and appreciation you have for them there’s many different technically Advanced ways to time the breathwork breathing whether you know count your breaths or you hold them while you inhale and exhale there’s all kinds of advanced technical breathing skills when I going to go into that today what we are going to just talk about is very simply being aware of the bread and that you were with the inhale you’re sort of bringing in new and fresh cleansing energy from the external environment through the nose feeling the belly letting the diaphragm open and then on exhale you’re releasing all of the toxins this is physiologically what’s happening when you when you reach the breast when you inhale you’re bringing in new atoms in your exhaling out the dirty and used energy from inside yourself and you can also mean that just happens automatically but you can also intelligently and conscious sweet visualize the idea that you’re breathing that energy in and directing it towards the part of your body that you actually massaging so that you’re sort sort of sending a wave of healing nourishing relaxing loving energy into the the body part that you’re massaging so I’m breathing in sort of compressing that energy down to my feet I can feel it right now it’s a warm tingling and then exhaling and pulling it back out releasing the tension that is in held my feet in for a lot of us where we’re holding a lot of tension various parts of the body and the feet are definitely you collected all the time why so I feel so good they’re actually very erogenous some people are extremely turned on but I still Malaysian 350 has me know so I’m just going to continue the pattern generously applying for coconut oil as they go up repeating the pattern it’s very helpful if you’re anxious nervous neurotic stressed out you had an awesome and a pleasurable vowel sound all the vowel sounds when release the next Hill we’ll give you immediate reset of the nervous system and all tension stress depression it all gets dissolved in the sound for example of what’s the low Tom’s are very nourishing to the soul right nursing to the body and a hard so as you can see I miss nothing fancy I’m not doing any extremely skilled techniques here just rubbing down the skin every time you put pressure on a skin like this they actually release what would be very expensive pharmaceutical chemicals if you had to buy them antidepressants and anti-cancer drugs are actually manufactured in your own blood stream and it’s as if you were going to the pharmacy and getting a bunch of free no side effect healthy organic medicine right here I can feel the healing nourishing positive attitude inducing chemicals just pour right out for my skin into my bloodstream and it’s an immediate natural high that’s why we massage your self I know you’re not afraid to get yourself off are we going to get get ourselves on stay on for longer but deep breathing pattern is the foundation to what is going to become very valuable capacity to circulate and move the erotic energy up through the energy centers so this foundational reading and through the nose feeling alone out to the out to the mouth that’s your foundational breath pattern so I’m just releasing all the tension here you notice I’m just working on my way around the genitals by passing I’m going to do we’re in the inner thigh there open up the whole pelvic are you here just putting my intention to it putting my intentions into relieving the stress sluicing it up shaking a little bit just shaking off any distress the excess energy rolling balloons rotating the joints you can do this standing up it’s always advisable to even do bit of Dance to get the energy flowing but let’s say it’s the end of the day you just want to rub one out and pass out but we’re going to go to voltage if you do this once a day every day for even just a week you will have amazing results and it’s going to pour out and other areas of your life people around you were going to enjoying positive energy that you have to to give up after while the breath just sort of takes over and does its own thing this is the very natural healthy way to breathe taking in four big braids Christmas neck and shoulders scalp is very important to in the face very important to massage the muscles in the face is a huge concentration muscles there discomfort and all the stress and all of the emotions of Restoration in depression all those things that you really gets stuck in place in the muscles of the face so send that out can actually play distressed energy away click it off reviews to University of Tennessee cleanse with a breath and scalp and face now you’re ready to work with the powerful genital erotic energy as if you’ve switched on the circuit breakers all throughout the rest of your your Energy System Avenger your Consciousness into the body and now the energy that’s going to be built up in this Powerhouse is generated general area it’s going to naturally flow out into all of the rest of the body making for the potential for Wesco full-body orgasm rather as I said the beginning rather than just rapidly building the friction here in the general area and then releasing it now you’re going to cultivate it and spread it and sink it deep into all the other tissues and the eventual release if you choose to ejaculate and I was the key factor here is being able to develop the skill to have a choice win to ejaculate and be able to ejaculate on command it’s all based on the ability to spread that energy to be the master of your Sexual Energy not to sleep now that I’m going to I burned the respect of my genitals now now they want me to play with them but I’m not going to just rush right into it I’m going to put effort it’s like building a campfire you know you make a perfect little TP of kindling you put effort into every stage get the muscles relaxed and get the blood flowing and the oxygen into the erogenous tissues a lot of times if we’re talking in the phone Ransom fishing a meditation out of this making a ritual out of it and really again with the directing of the attention to the breath I’m sending every part of my body what’s an open heart sending love Surf not just not just jacking off right now I’m not even trying to really get heavy with the stimulation I’m just using my hands focusing my intention to put love through my hands and just working positive energy into the area once it gets saturated with positive loving energy I’m going to go ahead and get into building this erotic energy I feel literally like my whole entire body is becoming erect and erogenous that’s what that exercise that is so much heightened sensitivity to the whole body and pleasure that I’m now going to direct into my highly sensitive erogenous tissues is going to harmonize with if I buy all of these other areas in my body no if you pay attention to how I breathe you’ll notice that regulating the intensity it’s a pleasure intensity Sensations regulating them with the breast the breast is like a release valve and the deeper and more control the breathing the more pleasure and erratic voltage I can handle with in my system in now we can into inhale the energy is building up through my entire body entire Energy System and spread it out and disperse it as I exhale if you would have a pain or an ailment somewhere in the body would see that it had a problem or back problem literally consciously breathing and directing the pleasure energy the pleasure voltage to the area where there is pain will have profound effects pain relieving that pain relieving that stress or that a secret ailment this is powerful magical directed energy see you again I’m not just regular rigorously pumping it up and down no one’s going to come in and catch me being naughty big boy now is my body it’s my Divine Birthright to enjoy every inch of it it should just be a Dorian to it just absolutely adore into this beautiful work of art is beautiful piece of creation having reverence. Entire being in the miracle of your existence it’s easy to become depressed especially if you’re alone but you need to begin with yourself and know that you’re worthy have your best and highest love from head to toe what’s the matter what color you are no matter what size you are and how old you are or what’s happened to you or what you’ve done it all starts in this moment this is a new moment to refresh and restore your dignity make yourself love and self respect take that pure loving energy an extended o into the world this is your magic wand and it has magical powers and properties and if you treat it well and respect it the word miracles in your life creative with your stroking patterns you can rub the Palm across the tip here and that creates a wonderful sensation you can ride the ridge with a fingertips you can incorporate the testicles make for Two Handed action you can grab a shot of both hands you can Corkscrew if you can rub it from side to side are there any books out there that you can read for fancy techniques you don’t need to remember any kind of name fancy names are fancy techniques just try to do something different every time I try to be creative and give yourself plenty of time to explore speak to are unaware that they have this area right here called the perineum or perineum how we prefer between the anus and testicles which is the easiest way to put slight pressure on the prostate gland which requires really to be massaged for it to remain healthy so you can massage it for me decide if you want to lube up the finger and finger to or your favorite toy you can massage it internally through the anus prefer quickie you can just work on the outside put pressure on it right here running outside in Austin a lot of guys don’t even think about what they can be doing with your left hand but as you can see when I’m not I’m not working the genital area with both hands I’m stirring the energy and moving around with my hands and my Consciousness so is he I had you know some knee problems are communal tension in my shoulders I could just actually intensity using the visualizing and using the movement of the hand I could send that as you could even send an orgasm send it up to attend Starion or painful area I’m going to show you the the real Holy Grail technique which is to work up and build the orgasm energy go ahead now and working the rapid motion I have this beneficial added value of being uncut so I have more erogenous tissue to work with here makes it very easy to climax very fast thankfully I don’t have any serious ailments or tension or stress in my body right now so I’m not going to have to resolve any any pains in the body but I am going to creatively intelligently direct the orgasm energy to awaken and activate and send energy and love and lay the power into my energetic Center is known as chakras and we started with the horror just opening that up I’m going to introduce you to the six other main chakras of the yoga the Tantra yoga chakra system that each chakra wants to go in you can experiment going clockwise counterclockwise closing opening Contracting you basically want to just get it to spin and you can feel which way he wants to go so we started with the hard but now I’m going to walk you up the system from the base chakra the root chakra all the way to the top of the head down here it’s called The Root chakra and it has a red color associated with it and it’s not a random color coding Clairvoyant people who have the ability to see into the subtle energy field can actually see that stimulating this area here causes an emanation of a red light and a few can imagine a lotus flower imagine the Petals of a Lotus Flower opening and that’s what we’re doing we’re putting our attention to these energy centers opening up massaging activating spinning what’s going with the flow whatever Direction your hand naturally wants to flow in his okay I’m opening up the red root chakra Energy Center you seem to be superior to but I’ll tell you we know that the hard Energy Center is associated with the feelings of love that’s a given everyone has had his phone in love or had their heart broken or felt loved so you know that there’s an emotional quality associated with that area so there’s actually other areas and those areas have different emotional qualities linked to them and say she was a part of self-care you want to walk to the world in control of and mass in with Mastery over your emotional and psychological aspects of your being so this red root chakra that I’m working with right now it’s not just symbolic of this these emotional qualities it actually governs them and actually the health of the chakra is going to determine the health of these aspects of your life and personality and very simply it is where your sense of survival and security and the world that’s where that you’re you need to feel secure you feel safe need to feel grounded you need to feel nourished physically and that sense of stability living in this world as a human animal that comes from this area so I’m going to go ahead and work turn on ejaculatory orgasm Pub and I’m going to direct the orgasm energy into that Center into this red root chakra with the intention of improving an increasing enhancing my feeling in my sense of grounding us and Security in this world in this Earthly plane. This is the very dense first level of my Consciousness so if You observe I’m going to work the shaft vigorously and then use the breath work to regulate you orgasm energy right before what would typically be in ejaculation I’m going to Xcel Energy pulling the energy away from the genitals and sending it down into the root chakra so an explosion of positive energy can nourish it seeing red fishing license expansion of the root chakra that was an internal with some cold in jaculation as opposed to ejaculation I’m going to repeat this process and I’ll speed up a little bit and it is associated with sexuality and creativity amongst other things but mainly those two things so we’re in reading the circle right now is a couple inches below the belly button that’s where the 6th century is and again it’s sociated with not just your sex drive higher than your libido but also your creativity you’re not only selling creating life isn’t reproduction but also if you’re creative artists or if you haven’t discovered your creative gifts yet it’s very important that you set the intention to wake up and activate this Energy Center so that you can get those insights in those bursts of creativity but you may have been lacking or if you are a creative person that is fair project is getting blocked this is a good you know place to Center your attention and focus on and it’s so weird send orgasm into the sex center with the intention to stimulate creativity visualizing the color orange sending the energy into the area that I’m rubbing with my left hand pressing and sending down into the sex Center exhaling a prayer for creativity okay now moving right along we’re going to move up to the third chakra is he yellow color and is where the solar plexus here call Lisa main qualities psychological emotional qualities associated with this your sense of power your sense of ability to manifest wealth in financial abundance your sense of dignity and in Pride and also your emotions you know if you ever noticed if you get an argument you must say you’re at work and you feel like you’re being disrespected or kind of trampled on by a fellow employee or you’re being scolded by the bus he might feel kind of a toxic negative influx of energy of funneling into this solar plexus area kind of like getting a punch there and that’s an insult to your your dignity in your your self-worth and your sense of power in the world so you want to be repairing that whatever you maybe had a bad day at work or you if you know had some kind of photo anything that kind of Cut You Down you want to repair that chakra and could love attention energy into it worth the energy into it so when I go ahead and send this orgasmic energy prayer for empowerment to give me confidence and strength in the world my life fishing license to come in yellow back to the heart where we started beginning just going to sit at the intention to play the song orgasmic energy to expand my heart energy and have more compassion for others throughout my daily life and more compassion for the planet or the health of the planet our beautiful planet for All My Relations you want to send this orgasm a couple of energy wave is prayer into and out of my heart so hopeful Joy me green energy mozzarella alright the next one is the which as you might expect governess yourself expression coverings your sense of assertiveness and the ability to feel heard and listen to and you know you may if you do work in this truck or aerial you may unblock on childhood memories that where you were told that you weren’t a good singer that you had to shut up nothing you said was important so there’s a lot of healing that we all need to do in this area there’s a lot of nurturing that we can do for ourselves and really want to awaken and revive the scripture for energy and has a blue color so you can visualize the color blue does he send energy into it that is an Exquisite wonderful feeling like I said need to open up that area and be able to speak more truth in our lives and world the next area would she if you’ve ever seen any videos or photographs or no love or are Hindu you would know the people have a DOT on their forehead that symbolizes a third eye is third eye chakra is the energy center that governs your Visionary Consciousness it’s sort of like if you’ve ever done been in that settle State of Consciousness between awake and dreaming and you have a a sort of dream-like experience of. Two other dimensions seeing the future seeing the past in new ways having clear insights it is that extended sensory perception begins to open up your Consciousness and awareness and perception into other Realms and it was part of the Spiritual Development that we want to work towards this is conditioning that third eye which actually is associated in the endocrine system with the pineal gland it’s actually in the middle of the brain and their important chemicals that are manufactured in the pineal gland that are responsible for giving us powerful Visionary experiences and it’s released every time we dream so we’re really activating the power of the dream state by working with sending energy into the third eye okay so we’re going to again repeat the process Bill the orgasmic intensity up overt and redirect the executive energy injaculate and draw the energy of so it explodes in the third eye can you buy experience Visionary Consciousness immediately during or immediately after this experience or you may just have more vivid dreams or you may have more insight intuition come to you at other times but if you’ve said that attention you will begin to activate that physical organ and the energy associated with it Indigo colored hey Google I have a light bluish purple color and I can see it right now my entire visual field as I close my eyes is saturated with an indigo color vibrant indigo color shows my vision powerful effect when you start to see the colors change in while your eyes are closed do you know you’re getting to that level of expanded Consciousness and awareness now the final chakra is the crown chakra it is the portal to Divine consciousness whatever is spiritual tradition you may follow or if you consider yourself an atheist or agnostic I encourage you to open your mind expand your Consciousness and begin to work with this process of sending orgasmic energy to various parts of the body of the spine in this case and this is the crown jewel of your Consciousness and going through the the tunnel into the light this is quintessential experience of opening the crown chakra it’s different from the third eye when you tend to see into other times other places other worlds or other circumstances within your life when you open up the shop the crown chakra you tend to see the the beautiful violet light or the Divine white light and get the sense of Justin over but overwhelming overpowering loving devotional caring compassionate energy you know a a sort of God force or goddess Force if you will the Divine source and that Divine Source if you can imagine is what we want to be having a direct relationship to because if you imagine it’s sort of like a waterfall or the fountain you if you want to open yourself up to receive what it comes down from that Divine Source energy that’s what can refresh and renew and rejuvenate all the chakras Oliver physical body parts and really bring 11 connected with her heart connected with all the rest of your body as I said so don’t be surprised if you when you work with this energy and attention if you start to see and feel that divine presence and can MC yourself and feel yourself to be part of the larger Divine Consciousness this is Again part of accessing the Holy Grail using your nervous system your energy system and most importantly your Sexual Energy instead of just ejaculating it out or consciously intelligently designing the direction of the flow of energy to achieve forms of health and wellness and spiritual growth so this will be the last one for today next time we’re going to build on this system I want to keep it very simple today just dissociate that the meanings with the various Energy Center and the color is associated colors next time we’ll talk about the actual the vibratory sound frequencies associated with each one known as mantras every tracker that we’ve went through today has a unique vibratory sound frequency or chakra you’ve probably heard the phone that is so when it’s very commonly understood in her so what we get working with that next time this time again the color is the locations of the meanings is a good foundation we’re going to send a final prayer to unite ourselves With the blessings the winner of the benevolence compassion and a Divine love knowledge wisdom how to say stay connected with their source so that you do less harm in the world so that your wired to the Divine realms asking humbly asking to be connected in that way Xenoverse O2L spiritual practice the connection to the divine and I guess one last Kaiser Advice if you have a shower system your root chakra is that which is closely most closely connected to the energy of the earth and a crown chakra is what is most closely connected to the energy of the heavens above what were and where were using in the very center of the system you have the higher so something to ponder meditate on as you drift off to sleep is the idea that as human beings you know we are part animal we’re part Angel you can say proportionally Divine or partially beast and it is this unique capacity of wiring and are nervous system that gives us the ability to have these very unique experiences of connecting to the Divine seeing into the astral planes and into the spiritual Dimensions but also being grounded and rooted to the Earth so you were Duty as a Divine human animal being is to create a balance of energy flow between the lower chakras that are associated with our animal nature and the Earth plane and the density of the matter use the heart center as a place to alchemize the more spiritual Divine Dimensions that we have access to and we’re going to use is this called him to mix those energy so that we have a beautiful passionate delicious sensuous experience of living the flesh yet we have the higher ethics morality and sense of compassion and sentimentality that we get from higher connections to source so just remember that remember that you have a duty to be an alchemist of your own have all your actions all of your love and all the attention and said we’re trying to purify those things so that we can have a deeper and More in Rich life alright without any further Ado will close this session with the final non ejaculatory orgasm opening up the crown chakra on the top of the head you ain’t actually begin to see a column of white or violet light connecting to the crown on pouring down into your energy system I can see it right now two beautiful call of light like a waterfall Nickelodeon for this one Justin Gabriel is your time like the flu directly 2D array spine sipping it up building it up sippin it up trying energy up to meet the crown chakra meet the energy is pouring down sending my Earth Energy up from the lower chakras to the heart meeting the Divine energy coming down I can see the Beautiful Violet white cone of light dancing around Mind’s Eye behind my eyelids beautiful prescription experience affirming experience of beauty most that we’re connected to Nixon ever feel alone never feel that if you’ve strayed from the light that you can’t always reconnect with it always there for us thank you for joining me well means if you want to release your jacket with now you’ve earned I’m going to save my seed enjoy the transmutation of the energy and if you want to see my beautiful full load release there’s several other videos that she can choose from the show that Eminem estate in my in my spiritual path at the moment where I’m holding my seat and saving it at this time but I’m sure you will see me release it all again and next time we’ll go over there. Only the sound that only the colors and locations of the means the chakras but on that foundation will talk about using your voice to create the vibrational Mantra sounds for each chakra and that takes you again to even higher and Next Level so see you next time thank you very much thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want to podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been a tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day
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Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 83 I am doing an interview here with tree ambika mavi and she is Playboy TV’s number-one tantric expert which definitely has caught my attention among other things and intimacy coach and founder of the ecstatic awareness Institute and is really one of the world’s greatest living country code facilitators and and healers that I’ve become aware of and we weave briefly cross paths in different circles and I’m really excited now it’s Grandma cat have you as a guest and if you would be so kind just kind of give us your your life story how you got on this path of of Tantra and beyond happy to be here right now with you and getting to chat together my life story where to begin you know this path yeah I could say where it started as far as you know when I first started hearing about Tantra but I think it’s valuable to just go a little bit further back and say that I grew up with Catholic parents of a Colombian upbringing so Latin American upbringing and and Catholic religion and so there was a lot of Shame and there was a lot of stuff around sexuality and do you know you just really a lot of confusion and being a spiritual person and as I have always been it was this journey to try to find myself and my spirituality and yet not see myself as a slut or a hore which is a lot of wet you know that the extra tradition would have you think I’ll when you also want to be a sexual being so the idea of spirituality and sexuality in the same sentence was completely unheard of for me so I went forward in the world having to cope with that and there was some difficulty for me around that and being a very sexual being I wanted to explore I wanted to find out more about what was out there in this life and as soon as I became old enough I began to explore in the world of of sex work but not not having sex but more so it was a it was a roll of doing a lingerie modeling and I’ll say lingerie modeling and quotes it was kind of like a private Peep Show and and you know on the men were allowed to make themselves as comfortable as they wanted in the room and you know where they’re at their I am and and this computer lingerie and there’s like a chair with a box of tissues in a bottle of Jergens what kind of what kind of establishment will see how to say the name of course but I’m just curious how this was facilitated as a business model is like an establishment or if this was something you did before Craigslist and Backpage and all that well well before Craigslist and Backpage and probably before I even heard of the internet at that stage I was only 18 19 and I I thought it was sort of like a lingerie store a front for lingerie store that kind of had maybe six to eight pieces of really cheap lingerie hanging in the front and the guys can come and choose their model and there be about two or three of us working at any time and then we go and you’ll have a sort of a private keep show and you know I learned a lot during those years and I and I learned that I could make a lot of money and that was fun but I also had to learn a lot about my boundaries which I didn’t realize I had until only after they already been crossed so I know I went through a lot of trial and error in that phase and not knowing myself fully yet not knowing what my boundaries were and through being in a scene where people wanted to take advantage of me I just had to kind of get through that and I found myself at a crossroad where I was I’d made a lot of money and I’d saved a lot of money and I wanted to get out of the business and I was really struggling with with myself with my identity I have a lot of shame I felt I’m very insecure so a lot of of those internal turmoil that happened when when you don’t know yourself and your exploring sexually and a lot of things are happening very quickly so I so I went off on a spiritual journey to India and that was the first time I’d heard the word Tantra and in that in that time I learned that I had all these issues you know you don’t always know that you’ve got all the stuff going on so I realize why I’ve got a lot of issues and I have a lot to heal and the word Tantra just rang so loud and true for me it was it was just an instant connection that I had to the word and I said I got to know what that is I got to follow that path so the following year I I moved from Miami to California and I started sneaking out teachers and seeking out workshops and books and whatever I can get my hands on and from there I began and I found teachers and I found some amazing people along my path and I began to receive healing work and so as I started to receive Tantra healing work on myself from trained practitioners trained Dhaka Zen dakinis I began to release immense amounts of grief and shame and fear in my body and it was being immediately replaced with love and self-acceptance and appreciation for who I am and I started to transform and it was in it happened relatively quickly I started to see the changes and that just that was it I just never look back and I I just knew right away this is my path so having been in the world of sexuality from the very beginning and early as I was legal I you know it was it was a natural transition to go from a very unconscious sexual scene to healing myself and going more towards conscious awake and sexuality and it just made all the difference for me and all the difference in my relationships and and just how I progressed in the world awesome do you want to talk about how you are you’ve sort of found a career path through all that that is led to your rising up to instructor kind of leader facilitator coach all that good stuff will I went ahead and started to train pretty early on and started to take zucchini training the Tantra teacher trainings of Charles me or as one of my dear beloved friends and teachers and you know very very close like family to me so he he was instrumental for me and and several other teachers and I and so my career in this path again early and in over the years it took many forms and so I think that how it progresses that because I started at an early age and I’ve been involved in the work for so long naturally I built a name for myself and I also started started to a create a distinction between what was out there for a little people who were doing different modalities of sex work versus doing more sexual healing work and really making a name for myself in that way and that there is a difference and and there’s nothing wrong with either one of them but that there is something transformative that can happen and even you know in the face of pleasure right that it can be such a powerful transformative experience when when it’s done with the right amount of presents so after several years and the field I went ahead and studied with a Groove for about 12 years on I took initiation into a kashmiri tantric lineage and that was I think we’re thing started at transform because I I started integrating more of the classical traditional teachings of Tantra and a gain a lot of respect in the community for for having done that and and and study done in that in-depth way yeah and I and then the next big piece for me was was with with the Sedona Temple and the International School of Temple art where we began teaching training in spiritual sexual shamanic experiences and and now that training is being taught all over the world so I was one of the founding members of that and yeah it’s just been an amazing journey and I continue to coach and work with people one-on-one and I just I love what I do and I continue to train also a practitioners and that’s been another big pieces it’s raining men and women who want to do this workout in the world and I just I love all of it well it’s also so there’s definitely a lot of really deep material there that as far as you’re having that rich culturally authentic experience training and also that so it’s like you’ve become the synthesis of Neo Tantra and classical Tantra and that is a really exciting and Powerful combination because you probably have a great vantage point to kind of shed light on the whole Spectrum so yeah I’m really excited to to explore that a bit I’m I guess I’m curious how was your how did Playboy channel discover you or how did you get pitched her how did that that bridge get across I’m curious and I received an email from from Scout and one afternoon and they wanted to bring me in to do an episode 4 one of their swingers shows called swing and and then they brought me in again and is it just kind of went from there or so it was really just they went out searching for someone just like me and they they were there having a hard time finding it because it’s that kind of combination between you know a lot of people do Tantra and it’s a modality of sex work which is great and it’s awesome and I and I love that there’s people that are you don’t taunt Rica’s and doing sex work and what they were looking for though is a little bit more of the educational aspect and somebody that they can you don’t bring in to really teach and coach and so that’s what I am awesome so yeah it would you would you be okay with talking a bit about your experience that the traditional lineage Based training and she had just kind of maybe start with an overview and then we can zoom in here and there sure well I won’t mention his name because I know that you wouldn’t want me to do that but I will say that walking the guru to disciple path is really something else I something it’s it’s definitely for certain individuals who want that I personally don’t think I knew what I was getting myself into but I’m glad that I did and I’m glad that I’m not there anymore the traditional path of Tantra absolutely love it’s more just the dynamic between That Grew disciple it’s a little bit condescending and manipulative in some in some cases not in every case but for some people but the but the traditional teachings of Tantra are are so Adept and so powerful and so beautiful know anybody who wants to study that it’s you know it’s really very very deep but the whole path of life that is always the whole psychology it’s an entire path of Awakening from it from the way that you eat to the way that you think to you know something from what you do at the start of the day to the end of the day and then of course from the way we make love it’s everything is included so it’s you know it’s very powerful to live your life that way what would you say are some of the obviously I just I feel like the more I study at the less I can Define it the best I can explain it and it itches it gets even more elusive it’s so vast and so I’m curious if what some of the maybe just bullet points of what you feel like you were really blessed to have been able to experience it in and that one-on-one grew disciple training that people who are on a weekend retreat or certificate you know whatever the Neo Tantra packages to to get you out of your you no work week and normal mindset and into a a deep training what would you say are some of the things that that you know we will be missing out on not having the experience you had that are some of the positive things and then I’m sure we’ll figure out some of the negative ones too well I guess there’s a couple ways that I can answer that you know some of the some of the really positive aspects is you know to understand yourself as something much broader and bigger than the limited ideas that we have of who we think we are and to begin to actually have practices and tools and ideologies to begin to see do yourself in a much broader context and so when I when I can see myself as as Shiva as you know primordial Consciousness inkarnate I begin to experience the world differently right I begin to live into the world with less fear with less fear of death with less concerned about the minutiae and assertive come into the world with them from a more expanded stay and so that that’s something really valuable because you know we all can get caught up and in the end the little things right in the little things that that pisses off or noises and you know like that go ahead yeah that was just a green definitely I think a lot of people are bypassing maybe now in the in the so-called I don’t really know Nick neotantra is is kind of just as nebulous but it seems I guess one of the critiques that I would have and I I feel like India came to me I didn’t go to India at Lake came to me through Priestess initiatrix has waves of them coming in and really synchronistic ways and that doesn’t mean I don’t have a want to make a pilgrimage absolutely but I feel like what like the way I would like to Define Tantra for the mod for the modern era is it is a practice of goddess worship and if that’s missing then maybe it’s a dangerous path of Tantra that somehow forgot to put the Davey Sedona in the mix and I’m wondering if if you feel like that sort of the spiritual bypass of just the mechanical sexual breathing and you know the real practical impact are the practices that enhance your sex and love life and connection that’s all great but do you feel like you were able to kind of get more of a deeper connection to the cosmology in the mythology and took formulated to more clear question do you think people are missing out on that aspect a lot and and are you able to kind of translate and deliver some of that since you have had that sauce after deeper immersion training well that’s a great question and here’s what I think I think you are people missing out you know I don’t think that everybody is cut out for that depth of teaching I don’t think that those teachings are necessarily meant for everybody that there is something about Tantra that they caught the Open Secret where you know it’s open anybody can come and read the stuff but unless you unless you’ve got the eyes to see and ears to hear and really get it it’s might not be meant for you and not everybody’s interested in that depth of thought or that depth of Mantra and you know yantra studies and you’re all the Deep Sanskrit terminology like not everybody wants. So are they missing out well you know it’s something ignorance is bliss and so that’s okay for them is the world of Neo Tantra missing something sometimes sometimes in some cases it is and then definitely I aim to be that bridge and I also think that it’s for whom and when like if there’s if there’s a person who ready and interested in needs that teaching those teachings then I’m all too happy to deliver that and when a person isn’t able to receive that it’s sort of like how can I get around the fancy terminology to sort of present this in a way that they can really receive it and I think that that’s something that that the the classical Tantra did support me and a lot is is is broadening my perspective and then now what using my own tools to deliver that to any audience without it being too weird or fluffy or foreign practice of beholding whether it’s your consort or your wife for your ass you know your spouse of your concert or Temple dancer whatever the configuration is that that sort of quintessential divining of the Beloved as the god or the goddess or a combination thereof do you have you found a way to kind of translate horor deliver that experience without breaking people’s religious dogmas to giving him too much of a right turn you know when they’re not ready I just say one quick thing is that speaking to a client just yesterday who was wanting to introduce his very very religious Christian girlfriend into the path of Tantra and I got really excited because I think this is perfect because she’s already concerned about living in sin and so this would be a way for her to reconcile that part of her that says hey it’s okay that we’re having sex even though we’re not married and you know just because we can call in a greater power a higher power and just translate it so that it works for her so I think I think that if somebody is very closed off and in their in their on their religious path are not going to be able to receive any of it but I do think that there is a place for it in numerous spiritual just traditions because of the fact that when you really dig deep the sex aspect in Tantra is given great regard because of the spiritual element right it’s not just like we’re not all hedonist trying to find cool new ways to get off it’s it’s it’s all about creating deeper and deeper and higher and higher state of the union with the Divine so for some I think that I’ve actually been thinking about that a lot because I’ve been called to do the same thing and it in in a variety of different formats to try to upgrade the spiritual Technologies as it’s so interesting I guess what’s happening with with porn and with really thin BDSM and Fifty Shades of Grey there’s this massive explosion of I would call maybe sexual freedom I don’t I don’t like I wouldn’t call it Liberation cuz that has a deeper kind of station for me but there’s a new level of Freedom that I feel is to be perilous without wisdom tradition guidance and that’s why Tantra is got a lot of catching up to do to the to those other even if you look on Google Trends and you see the search frequency of Tantra versus the other I’ll be I’ll be honest and respectful and say that can be just as much as a form of those are sexual art forms and you know the pouring is a sexual art form genre but definitely as the the shackles of really repressive monotheistic I don’t you know all the religions that are repressing sexuality Resort of being bucked off by this mess massive high-speed internet delivery system and so there’s like a need for these churchgoers who are scrambling in the face of these menaces to their you know they’re there their ways really it’s going to take the work of what you’re doing and other people who are able to kind of say okay well now that the cat is out of the bag how are we going to maybe translate the Kundalini has the Holy Ghost you know and if they don’t want to hear about the serpent you know maybe they’ll they’ll be that the Holy Ghost can work for him do you have you any of that time Bridge Crossing sort of cultural healing stuff in my private work so right I haven’t I haven’t made it a point to preach about it in a larger way I know that Sean Roop has actually taught in churches which I think is fantastic I have made less the point of it all though it would be it would be fun but in my in my private work when people come to see me I definitely I asked about their their religious spiritual background so that I’m prepared and and how it went to deliver what I want to say and yeah I love I love what you just added there about the the Kundalini being the Holy Spirit and it is yeah that’s a lot of potential to too kind of transcend the old language around the Stephen Odell paradigm yes so do you want to talk maybe some more about you or I had a I had a curiosity definitely about you know we could probably go do a series of podcast about this very deep esoteric material and in the mystical and mythological aspects really I’m at like someone just recently said yet is witchcraft a that that kind of you know does it for me to to approach it with that level of you no respect and reverence and you know what is that mean if we think of it that way obviously that would scare off some of the Christian so it wouldn’t be conducive to help in that discourse but so yeah I was going to say I’m curious how the power broker is in The Gatekeepers of the mass media but say the Playboy Enterprise did they give you space to explore that more esoteric esoteric elements or do they ask you to reel it in and you know I’m curious if they have any yeah well concerns or I can remember the day going to their Studios in Hollywood and asking about that very thing you know how to do you want me to go pretty clear that this was meant to be for the larger masses that this wasn’t meant to be a teaching on the esoteric aspects of Tantra so and one of my superpowers I think is to be able to convert myself not convert myself but you know just sort of be able to be adaptable and and and speak to my audience and meet them where they’re at so I did keep it a little bit later I kept it still connecting at the Heart level and very much connecting you know sexually essentially but with presents and and and deep connection that we kept it there we did not go into the deeper stuff even though if you look at what I’m doing in the filming’s I am creating a Puja experience and so they don’t know they don’t know that they’re there there’s roots of that in an early Tantra and and and how that all came to be but they don’t need to know that they’re having a good time and then the Aryans the nuts and that’s what was important at that time that’s wonderful yeah I feel like that’s that is the the the sign of a of a master if you can really deliver the experience without having to convert anyone or push their boundaries too far and they just you know can be Believers in this in the spiritual technology Without Really any rhetoric or any you know any of the more controversial controversial apologies work you know so we really don’t know all that background if you really sit with another person in this way you feel different you feel a connection and and that opens up new avenues of emotion in Awakening in your body that weren’t there before you know when you when it was just sort of like here let me just broke you in the dark instead let’s turn the lights on and I should be with one another you can’t deny what happens there as long as your present right it is yet very if it for the for the Skeptics and the atheist and all that it’s just electrical engineering and even the symbols are very there schematics in a lot of the configurations the yogic scriptures and it was stration sits you know something that reads like stereo instructions sometimes you know yeah so actually something you mentioned there it makes me wonder I feel like a good way to tell always introduce the chakra system to people who are maybe never heard of it or only if seen you know hippies with banners hanging out of their tents or whatever but at the everybody has an experience of their heart chakra so do you kind of start there if you if you when you initiate people into Brett breathing into or doing the bija mantras or kind of chakra introductory orientation work do you kind of start there and yeah well can you talk about that yet how do you how do you teach the chakras if you don’t mind I mean whatever extent you you would you care to share it’s always fun one of the fun of the heart it’s it’s always where I began I view the heart in the heart chakra as an alchemical chalice where all transformation can take place so when we begin there any relationship that we have to our sexuality to our power to our survival to our intuition to my voice in the world all of it gets gets transformed when we bring it through the heart and then you can just look to see how anything that you’re grappling with in life just bring it into your heart for a moment I just sit with it there and then just see what happens but that’s always where I begin and as far as I got an education on on chakras again you know I’m I’m working with a lot of different types of people and sometimes I have people that literally want to understand contract from A to Z and and sometimes I have a people that are really just trying to grow and heal and don’t don’t care so much for the deeper philosophy but know that there’s something in this for them so again for whom and when and when there is a person who who needs touch needs healing who needs to be seen in this light we work with the specific chakras that he or she needs to work on right so often times that if the Power Center The Heart the sex Center in over some people obviously that first chakra and as needed I’ll go at go through and explain it but more important than me explaining it is them feeling an activation of it Brian said I could happen with just like he words coming in at Key moments when they’re open when the portal is open and you know I come in with keywords that pertain to that cha Crush they don’t need to know that the color orange or yellow or that it’s this particular geometrical shape they need to know that right now their power is being activated and and we are calling that in there in a very potent way in other cases I find the chakras fascinating I love talking about that little ins and outs and specific mysteries of all the chakras it’s fascinating to me it’s total like braingasm material yeah yeah so in the right setting and that’s what I’ll do cool yeah I kind of feel like when I have to explain it to people who maybe you’re just skeptical in general or like yeah whatever we will be able to stay well imagine that your you know your physical body has a series of ink cartridges that print you out and they can malfunction and stopped working and then they can distort your sort of damage that you gave yourself the physical print out and so you want to optimize that and that seems to work as it’s kind of in a broader way that these seven centers where energy concentrates you can even see it as where you’re like nervous system will come together and concentrate it is the all the way that we receive and perceive the world so both how we receive you know these different functions and also you know how how we perceive that being acting out in the world and in that you know we are either perceiving the world for through these different modes you know in a very a contracted way and sometimes we’re much more open-minded about it or open-hearted you know it just kind of you know giving giving birth examples that people can relate to I think is is probably the most valuable so if you don’t mind I’d like to talk a bit about your perspectives and experiences with what is kind of sort of it’s a term now it’s like a modern term Sexual Healing like you could say a sexual healing it’s actually a veritable almost Medical Practice in with the Certified Six electrical bodyworkers training it’s I think that’s probably the most sort of codified that that a Hands-On sacred spot massage Ewing is is sort of been in in modern I guess medical legalized if you will but I’m really curious I’ve had this question in the in the back of my mind for a while where is the I’m not I’m not What’s the Word a fundamentalist when it comes to the scriptures there’s some really weird stuff and some of the scriptures so I definitely don’t want to have to sort of validate most of it was most of it has been traditionally village-based verbal pre-vedic pre civilized indigenous Shamanism of I would call bastardized patriarchal you know elitist extraction and then you have codification and in the in the scriptures so it’s it’s gets murky to say what it what is or isn’t authentic or or can be traced back to some cite citation in a document but I’m curious if in your training you’re probably one of the most qualified to answer this question is where does the sacred spot massage training or certain the discovery of that is there is there some natural history of that in the Indian traditions of Tantra that you’re aware of or is it you know I’m so curious to know what you want cuz I think we just kind of adapted we adapted and then we just sort of maybe don’t understand the the deeper origins or or just sort of get some what’s the word I guess it’s too taken for granted in modern Neo Tantra that this is part of Tantra but I’m super curious if you would know where you would go to actually study at traditionally or if there’s scriptures about it you know any of the Davey kind of hymns and stuff so you could go on and on about the Oni and all I mean exhausted leave it like it’s a beautiful discourse on the only and all of its magic and all this mystery so I’m sure there’s some references there but anyway scripture speaking I have yet to come across something specific about the secret spot from a traditional standpoint it’s it’s if it’s written it’s written in a serving in a mysterious way and what I know is that the term sacred spot it was coined by Charles Muir om some 3540 years ago it was taught to him that the practice without it being called secrets about the practice itself with was taught to him by a bee and a tantric practitioner and I’m saying this was like 30 maybe 45 years ago now at the stage for him so so where it that particular practice originated from I can’t tell you exactly but what I can tell you is that when you really look at it and you look at what’s happening in the body and where where were actually referring to it’s not just the G-Spot it’s not just that one little spot on the body it’s more of a secret area and it went to when you touch into that area in a man or a woman inside the body it gives you access I could deny it gives you access to the energy of all of the chakras and all of the cellular memory and the emotional content in that space and if you look at how the channels of eat. And peeing alot and so shall not that the three Central Channel’s come together and they sort of intersect at each of the chakras their their last point where they intersect is there or down there close to the base of the spine and so we’re kind of moving energy and connecting and playing in that area where all of the channels merge and we’re basically all of the chakras merge because each of the chakras are touched by these channels I hope that didn’t sound too totally far-out there in all this I mean I’m absent totally seeing all this like as if you were you’ve got you know a video projector up in this is a you know UPS exactly what I’m PowerPoint hear a lot of modalities that are popular today you know somewhere along the way someone figured this out and it got invented I don’t think that that that it’s any less powerful whether or not it came from the scriptures I really haven’t seen it but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some type of mention of it of course it wouldn’t have been called The Sacred spot it probably was referring more to Yoni Puja and and some other type of internal practice now when I when I worked with my Google make my spiritual teacher and I bet that there are a lot like in Chinese medicine solutely marma points along the outside and the inside of the body and so somewhere in all of this tradition it was figured out that when you go in and start activating these points or even on the body right that that you can you can access a lot of different types of energy in the body so so if I can sort of yeah process that a bit it it sounds like if there was ever a president within classical Tantra to do the Yoni Puja as a devotional ritual of oil massage of some kind whatever was available maybe sesame oil or I’m not sure if you would know that I would say but I don’t see if we wanted to do like a historical reenactment of the birth of you know this tradition of veneration of the genitals as the one of light in the gates to heaven I mean the really show people National Geographic or something maybe it’s another another you no experience of media like a National Geographic kind of experience where this is the real deep heart stuff but I guess my question is so you would if it during a Yoni Puja you would obviously be accessing the so-called Grafenberg Spot or whatever you know the goddess spot is a better way to put it but it wasn’t the sort of Silver Bullet kind of medical prescribe saying like oh you need to go get this G-spot release massage experience have been gone like you go to the temple and you know be a part of some ritual that would be open to initiate soar through some process you would gain access or your your lover would be trained I mean can you could you is it possible to walk through what it would be Circa you know 1000cc going into a tantric Temple and being like hey I heard about this food to thing like where the level of devotion so the the devotional aspic going back to what you started with earlier about you know Debbie worship goddess worship that the at the Yoni and lingam are both this is the consecrating force of the universe right this is where we come together in our too masculine feminine polarities and unite and this creates life and that the entire universe is like a gigantic erotic active love hence we are created this is whole universe so I think that’s where it started begins as is with a larger understanding of of the Oni and the lingam as creators of life and and so maybe a little bit further apart from the individuals Yoni but more so from this or the cosmic sense I think that as as you go in to to worship and individual Yoni the inside of the woman’s body generally in the tradition from the from all of everything that I’ve read everything that I’ve learned and understood and and things that have been performed on me that it was not actually accessed on the inside that’s the mystery right that’s the Beautiful Mystery of the universe that’s the mystery of like what a woman’s body does so as far as I know it and I’m just being really really honest here what I’ve read in the things that I experience at that traditional level we’re less about going on the inside and more about the honoring and devotional aspect on the outside and that’s why I think that somewhere along the way probably probably pass the time of whatever was written about was where the inside of the body started to get incorporated as a means for for healing but here’s the same the lingam Yoni connected was on the inside so so you know what I mean you know what I mean so it’s like in a way your were accessing the mystery mine that yeah they actually did it just hit me so crystal clear right now we are so wounded and detached and not that every active sexual love has to involve and inserted object that’s a human lingam or just the idea that you can’t have sex with your doctor even if the doctor is trying to heal sexually or something that’s the reason I had to be really divorced from that Union is that we live in the modern world that’s hyper regulated so now it’s sort of it sort of like that maybe had to evolve into this clinical finger based process but then there’s there’s benefits from that it’s not like it’s the first time obviously have the entire world history of lesbian sex and all of the foreplay and like the Chinese were very advanced in their deer pillow books you know that it’s wasn’t like it was a history of reaching in there for various desired effects but have that makes a lot of sense that you wouldn’t you wouldn’t have to it wouldn’t be necessary nice way to practice back then it would just be okay partner up and do what you know how to do instinctually in when you going to stop on the wheel now you’re in front of this person and you need to get beyond all of your preconceptions about attraction or who you think you should be with or want to be with and it just has to go because this person is divine in front of you and and and now this is the practice you know you’re going to unite and you know what lesbianism gay people is it was like there was all kinds of sex even then it’s not like everybody was heterosexual and not and not everybody who went to sit with the guru is heterosexual but we understand and Tantra that there is a lock-in key effect that happens when you bring together the lingam in the Yoni so it doesn’t matter your orientation but for that specific practice in that Tradition at that time right now and that time it mattered that there was the lingam and the Oni connecting and that that was that sort of lock and key effect that unlocked the mysteries of the universe and your potential as a Divine being actually something you brought up in that in that bit there I think there is a lot of confusion around how the if I’m not you might be better be probably better pronouncing it then I have I don’t know if I’ve heard it actually spoken but the word my tuna or my through I don’t know if it’s a good position to kind of clarify and you just let me know you go to a Puja and it’s a cross between the preschool patty cake and whatever people were doing back when they were doing the five M’s and transgressive practices and passing around cups of wine so I just actually read in a book recently that the tantric way I believe it’s called is the country way I would like the most descriptive no-nonsense if you know it would take an issue it’s about a year of screening and then the ritual go on for about an hour and a half and they had this many cups of wine that were passed around in a circle and it was like all of the mechanics that I’ve never heard in one place at one time or read about what that ritual actually entailed and they even had sort of like I like a coat of arm or emblem kind of thing with little icons of the five transgressive gems and other stuff so you talked about just now you mentioned just briefly that that hooja of that ritual you would be you would be rotating like clockwork between potential strangers if they’re not they weren’t all strangers and it was to achieve some sort of mystical effective like you’re saying unlocking the universe and having you know he said he’s effects happen so do you want to give you her sort of a bit of share your understanding of what that would it look like it’s just as if you were you were giving it to a production crew so that they could reenact okay production crew I want to see what this look like I really you know but you know it’s interesting because I got it the first place that I go is more at that deeper level of what was the point of this and had a very deep level the point was non-duality was it was to understand that you know nothing was inherently bad that nothing is inherently good here we are using the five items that are completely forbidden to show that hey we can do this inside this ritual and and nobody’s going to burn in hell for doing it and nobody’s going to get brownie points to go to heaven either it’s it’s it’s it’s a non dual experience it’s a Continuum of the hole and so when I guess you know going back to the production level or there have to be some teaching on that and and you know I visualize and an inner circle and Outer Circle and a rotation of those Circle so that you are doing a sort of a mini poodle mini ceremony with each person that you’re with and each one has a meaning and has a connection to a to a different aspect of the ritual until you get to the point where you are now going to go into sexual Union and okay could I still be able to 2nd generation Fusion experience that I’ve had him on as a guest and he is a great perspective by calling the Karate Kid of Tasha in that experience a sequence of offerings and on rings and sort of time gestures that were so that you would go through a rotation numerous times and you would encounter the same person numerous times and it was sort of an Excel around o of of purpose and meaning and emotional depth so is that just to kind of put us in that in the frame a little bit you’re saying you wouldn’t just be like okay everybody strip down and person a on Inner Circle connect with person be on Outer Circle and sexually and then move on to the next would actually be like a sort of spiraling Cujo kind of practice wear multiple different interactions would happen if the oven on sexual nature that would lead up to okay now we’re getting to the end of the the union party absolutely because not all aspects of the ritual were sexual and you look at the the different aspects from what we know there’s you know there’s I’m ingesting a food or of a substance involved there is there there’s various aspects and then of course there’s there’s the devotional pieces and there’s Mantra and there’s meditation Mayo there’s a lot of auspices so here’s the thing is it and I love your question because you know the David Gordon white rights and I think it’s called the kiss of the Oconee that the difference between Neo Tantra and classical Tantra is that Neo Tantra is ritualized sex where classical Tantra is sexualized ritual well that is a big stinky yeah yeah need to be all aspects of it had some sexual component it means that we are doing ritual and inside that ritual to increase the potency or to unite more deeply or more parsley we’re going to add a desexualized aspect all right wow that’s so amazing I really like that yeah that that kind of sums it up a lot of the women I talk to who are country codes or are saying to me been if you have the opportunity to initiate a woman in the time sure you should you should refer her into a coven of tantric sisterhood’s where she can actually get purified of all of the douchebags she’s been fucking in her that you know Daddy Issues on stuff and then if she’s interested after that if she hasn’t totally changed her life path and she still is he not attracted to you then will you know arrange something for the both of you chaperoned you know what I mean that would be the the highest standard of Ethics that I could hold myself to with that you know the spirit of that idea of just like don’t just be harvesting souls and have a real sloppy scummy kind of you know where is a male practitioner or unit initiate women do if they come to it because they want better sex or they have their there they have whatever issues you know what do you think about those problems in general can opens up set up Pandora’s Box really big topic we can go to a lot of directions with it but here’s what I’ll say absolutely when there is a teacher-student relationship there’s always a the power Dynamic and so it’s important for all parties to be aware of that and naturally a student and aspirin would want to experience what a master is really like you know in in the sexual department so when that it would that opportunity is given to them they are probably going to grab at it and say yes I want to go for it how they feel later on is going to be a whole different story and that’s going to potentially either get the teacher and a lot of deep trouble or or make them all better of a teacher you know and end so there’s a lot of different scenarios and a lot to be said about that and I’ve dealt with it in in my circles many many times and you know obviously consent and various other preparations for something like that are important but here’s what I’ll say is that I would not be the woman that I am today and I would not be the t-shirt that I am today if I had not had sexual experiences with my teachers so I am deeply grateful and appreciative of those experiences because they taught me and gave me a reference point for what energy feels like in my body for how to awaken centers in my brain through my orgasm I wouldn’t have had those I would have no idea what that’s like if I hadn’t had those experiences and so I’m very grateful to them do you ever get that fair enough I kind of feel the same way I mean that’s kind of back-and-forth and it’s because you don’t like I’ve been trying to be the the purified feminist sort of shock to Tantra representative with on a tight leash you know at end as I pursue this cuz I’ve seen the people go through you decades if those pitfalls and I’d certainly you know standing on the backs of giants myself and using opportunities like this intelligently to get the best best practices from people further down the path I am so it was someone who said to me yeah you do women need to initiate Each Other Well what if what if they don’t want to but if they don’t want that. I mean so like what do I do so with that sort of comedy and see at Regal piece set up I’m I’m curious would you let say to you were in a situation where you have like you were Rolodex of masterful tantric men who you have either engaged with yourself or who have good reviews or whatever within your circle they’re sort of trust Trustees of the technology and you were to be a say oh my God I’m starting to sound like a a romance novel hear something but you actually are the Priestess who you know the the the new generation of initiates godino looks up to you to be able to have access but two of basically avoid all these pitfalls and so here’s the Practical question should there be a referee or an observer or somebody keeping things accountable to some level of of like Priestess class ethics and oversight for so that women don’t get mine fucked in like 10 really like spiritually raped by people who have more sort of of a black magic agenda whether they know it or not whether they’re true Sorcerers or they’re just unconscious sorceress Jose I know you’re not exactly a night and I actually love the way you frame to a referee and yes my answer is yes I believe that there should be a I think that that’s an important piece to when when engaging with students to have a another person and that that that the person in power can turn to and say hey I’m looking at connecting with this woman or this man you know nnn what do you think are they stable do you think it would be wise you know I didn’t really get a second opinion and have somebody who who has an unbiased opinion and in fact in an insta and International School Temple Arts you know in our training program at a certain point further down in the training you know that week-long training we open the field and we say what you know everybody can now engage in whatever way that they choose you know you hate your power to say no you’re empowered to call in your boundaries and that includes the facilitators however we won’t make invitation that’s that’s alright that’s our main pieces we will not make the invitation so somebody comes to us with an invitation who wants to connect before we can say yes then we need to go and speak to the other facilitators and that’s how we manage this power Dynamic that otherwise gets trampled on because you know a person and Powers as well you know this cute young hot thing wants to be with the teacher and yeah so we managed it. That’s so fascinating that’s beautiful and I’m so glad to hear that cuz I feel like coming full circle as we’re kind of wrapping up here on time it’s the essence of this whole conversation was where is the fucking Guru who knows how to fucking deal with this shit because this is serious shit you know and that that would be there maybe needs to be a security deposit or sort of like a you know I kept thinking I’d like an AA sponsor or something somebody who’s further down the path who’s trusted to make wiser decisions than you if you’re just starting at the bat and there doesn’t seem to be for a variety of reasons you know I just hear nothing but horror stories from young women who go to a meet up and just get I fucked by some Demon you know is whether it’s the teacher or just some sketchy dude off the street who could afford you know this relatively affordable way to buy something that was never to be sold really in that way many of us have been walking this path for a long time we’ve seen a lot of things just like what you’re explaining and we’re figuring ways out to get around that because we will not stop connecting when people want to connect with teacher we don’t believe that it’s a wrong path we just need to know how to do it the right way and there are those of us who are carving a path for that will thank you so much I can’t tell you what time we this is you know well I really feel the spirit just really beautiful Vibes with reconciling that cuz it can tear you apart I mean I’ve been nice I’d say I’ve been celibate most of my adult life just out of fear of being that guy you know and being that guy with Tantra is like being that guy on steroids if you know if you’re if you’re doing it wrong you know so well do you want to talk about your offerings now you know where people can find you and certainly how to connect and all that good stuff website is ecstatic awareness.com ecstatic awareness.com but that’s going to change in a few weeks I’m rebranding everything it’s going to move to my name Tree on become Aviv, I’m really excited about that I’m writing a book it’s going to be a foreman for soulful men sexuality for the Soulful man to reach out to me just go to my way my two websites for spitting on when you hear this and and reach out to me and we’ll just jump on the phone together and and see what you’re looking for what you need I’m happy to spend some time with you and and see how I can serve you and support you awesome thanks so much so and do you have any other final words or advice you like to share final words come talk to me if you’re curious about what I’ve said here you know reach out to me through my website find me on Facebook and and let’s have a conversation because if you’re curious about this path I’m happy and Overjoyed to be able to share awesome well thank you again so much I really appreciate it and all the work and play and effort you put into establishing yourself in this world and being a strong empowered voice and I really can’t thank you enough so yeah I have a great night and he’s got a www.hunterfan.com can cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help us out a permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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In this episode I am joined by Nirmala Nataraj. I discovered her great works in a search for a teaching on the symbology within the Kali Yantra and found her article.
She has graciously blessed the podcast by sharing her story of personal transformation through Tantra and Goddess Kali worship. She holds sacred space for me to share some of my revelations and research and generously provides validation of and guidance for many of my most controversial discoveries.
Together we weave a mutually affirming narrative of personal healing and spiritual growth through our devotion to Kali. We emphasize the need for preparation, care, and caution when approaching her might and magic. We also encourage listeners to find supportive fellowship as they rediscover and reinvent Kali’s vast primordial irrepressible nature.
Nirmala shares a description of the Kali Yantra and conducts a devotional guided meditation using the Yantra.
We close with a brief discussion on sexual healing and empowerment through tantra and she offers some great advice for individuals and couples to break through repressive cultural conditioning and reclaim the power and beauty of sacred love making.
I’m Nirmala Nataraj, a San Francisco Bay Area-based Desire Guru and Taboo Slayer (and you can find me at my day job here)!
Sacred Fire Desire Coaching is my way of connecting directly with those who want to embody their truth. My wish to expand people’s repertoire of tools and resources through creative problem-solving is paramount in my approach. I especially love to work with people to clear some of the obstacles that keep them from expressing their deepest truths—obstacles such as shame, past experiences of trauma, and the inability to embrace and integrate every last part of themselves.
For me, healing is something that happens when we are willing to wrestle our demons…and then become their friends (which also happens to be a recurring theme in my writing). I’m also interested in inspiring my clients to view relationships, intimacy, and sexuality as viable and rigorous paths to personal development and purpose.
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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear love his phone cover Township podcast episode number 57 I’m here with nirmala and we’re going to talk about goddess Kali and all of the beautiful magnificent ways that she’s entered our lives and given Direction and guidance and some of the Practical applications that we can all use to access her love and medicine and then we were just talking briefly about how apt it is that she was recently featured on the Empire State Building projected during a an endangered species slideshow production that that occurred and then at one of the Visionary artist Android Jones had a slide in there which is a beautiful collie face rendition and caused a bit of an uproar as you’d expect this is sort of a starting point to talk about this her she’s being called forth now to help us and if you don’t believe that you can look up the pictures didn’t see that you know it’s like the Batman signal or something so anyway that was my little brief intro and I normally would you please say thank you for joining us and please tell us about your background and in your path where to start my so first of all I I work I work pretty heavily with just what I consider the energy of desire and being somebody who’s been on a non dualistic tantrik pot for as long as I can remember and I grew up in a traditional Hindu household and both of my parents are from India and I was raised here so a lot of my own path has been about bridging cultural differences and really diving into the energy of what I see as the collective Shadow and for me desire is something that is really capable of helping us to heal from that split that we tend to have between masculine and feminine Darkness and Light and and I think that Kali is a really as it’s kind of emblematic of what it could look like when those when those pictures are heel and when the split is healed and we and we stopped being in conflict with ourselves and and so a lot of the work that I do is around healing our healing our connection with our sexuality healing our connection desire and my website is sacred fire coaching.com because because I do believe that our desire is the sacred fire that lives within us and it’s our responsibility as incarnate beings 210 that fire so that’s a little bit about 10 of the work that I do and I can talk a little bit more about that later but insurance if my own path I would I would say that it’s it actually comes from pretty ancient lineage and my family is from South India and there’s a long line of country cuz in the area both of my parents are from a lot of Hindu Tantra practice today can be found in South India and a lot of these practices are related to the 10 wisdom goddesses who are known as the Mojave Diaz and they’re very prevalent in a lot of different forms of Tantra and Kali is one of them so these goddesses are revered in South India and by far the most strongly maintain tan tradition in South India is his status Street as yet and she is Supreme goddess and a lot of practitioners in the street of your tradition including people in my family tends to be married householders and often there’s a family tradition of practice but being a woman is South Asian descent who was raised and the West I grew up in California back to Tantra has been its it happened been as direct it hasn’t been a part of this unbroken lineage and in fact I would say that that Tantra is still something that in in India in a lot of traditional Hindu family it’s really still seen as kind of a a dark path and there are still a lot of just as misunderstandings about Tantra abounds in the West on there’s a lot of misunderstanding about Tantra in the East and I think a lot of that comes from just you know Colonial attitude two words the way that the body and sexuality and certain spiritual practices were four kind of conveyed so a lot of I would say that a lot of Hindus in a lot of Indian people in general have kind of internalized those attitudes so so like I said before my path back to Tantra has a lot to do with my own exploration of desire and sexuality and desire and sexuality as a rigorous spiritual so I’ve always been interested in sex and sexuality and actually since I was very very young back when nobody in my family talks about it and if the same time because I I grew up in a household where devotion Devotion to god and goddess were really kind of a part of our daily existence I I was always in an environment that was very overly spiritual actually one of my earliest I wanted to be a nun and I wasn’t Christian nobody in my family was Christian but I remember just reading about female nuns and Mystics and being so drawn to this idea of devoting myself body and soul to God so I have always been on a path that I’ve considered devotional and that I’ve considered a path of surrender and that gradually grew into a worship of the dark goddess and all of her forms as mahakali as inanna Ishtar as as the Virgin of Guadalupe and that was actually really connected to my own discovery of feminism and goddess worship as a way of bringing the salmon in back into spiritual practices so so over time I was really interested in how the dark goddess encourages us to dissolve our boundaries between the sacred and the profane and I think that that’s what led me to Tantra and in addition a lot of my former work I used to be a Rape Crisis counselor and so I’ve worked with a lot of women who have felt just generally wounded and disconnected from their own essential sexuality and sensuality and a lot of my work has been without healing. Chasm and I for me working with collie and working with different forms of the dark goddess has been immensely healing I I really can’t even put that into words and end this this really comes from my own experience of how many women and it isn’t just women it’s also none how many of us have been wounded by a pervasive cultural attitudes about sex and sexuality and the sex is an extremely powerful force and the time because I knew this and they know it and and they work with it and incredible and hoping ways but sex is also something that’s a power that can be misused and as women we we often use that power in ways that don’t serve us and we use it to to do things like we to make people fall in love with us for instance where to use sexuality as a weapon because in many ways text has been used as a weapon against us and very few of the women that I’ve ever met has have worked with their sexuality as a source of pleasure and is a source of achieving Union ecstatic Union with the Divine so that’s that’s been a really big interest of mine how do we how do we move towards sex and desire to do that and also another really important aspect is my pot that I kind of alluded to earlier is looking at this experience of being bicultural this experience of growing up in two completely different traditions and and Bridging the Gap because I do think that Eastern forms of thought like Tantra obviously we’re seeing them becoming more and more popular and more and more needed and the west and at the same time there’s there’s just been a lot of really interesting stuff that’s been happening in India in particular and other places where traditionally women haven’t held over positions of power and where there really is still a lot of suppression as far as sexuality goes it’s amazing that India’s this place where Tantra and the Kama Sutra came out of but at the same time there are still horrific attitudes towards women are still bride burning since honor killings and end public rate end so I think that we really we really need to come to an understanding that that Bridges the disconnect that exists and it and I think this isn’t just a disconnect that’s about east and west and our attitudes towards sexuality and body and spirituality it’s a deeper and deeper conflict that’s being healed and it’s a conflict that I think lives inside the human consciousness and that collie and got us have to have the profound power to really heal so so a lot of the work that I’m doing is that the dressing that dualistic split again you know between nature and civilization masculine light and dark and I’m really interested in accessing your life force which is it’s the erotic nstemi accessing the erotic it’s it’s a spiritual act it’s a political act on it’s what we can do to claim our freedom as creative beings and I’ve really seen magical things happen we can act without energy and I’ve seen that happen in my own life and just to give you a little bit more background about myself about 7 years ago or so I was in a marriage that was falling apart and everything looked great on the outside I have been with my partner for close to a decade and something was missing and I didn’t know exactly what and I felt so guilty that I can be in this marriage that where everything looks perfect on the outside but inside there was something essential that was missing that I couldn’t put a name to I’m so I buried that understanding three years and years and and finally at some point the entire relationship just kind of exploded and it was like goddess herself came into my life and and shown this Stark light on to everything that I had built and and I felt like I was falling apart and it was a revelation and it was very difficult for me at that time and I think it’s that way of guilt and shame this this sense of internal knowing that there’s something that’s missing and I look back on that time now and I know that what was missing was my sense of connection to pleasure and desire and two goddess really to the feminine I think that that weight of guilt and shame of wanting and longing for this thing that we don’t have words for it it keeps so many women from tapping into the full extent of who they are and they’re afraid to even admit to it so I would say that my my real talk begin with just acknowledging my desire technology that there was a desire that was not being mad and it was not being that in the context of that marriage so after that I I would stay the night I went on an odyssey that involved Tantra it involved doing some somatic therapy sexological Bodywork and seeing what has been frozen inside me and this experience with Awakening and another itself and I really wanted to share that with other women and so many of the women that I have worked with had really similar stories and another thing that I’ve discovered that’s been remarkable is that a lot of the women I’ve worked with have kind of come into their own relationship with goddess and we’re really finding you know we can’t we can’t divorce our sexuality from our sense of connection to God has for my sense of connection to the universe and to each other and I think that would have been recognizing the night I should say that I work primarily with women but I’ve also worked with men and I’m seeing this awareness and then also is that we are seeking to make our ecosystem harmonious we’re tired of being in conflict with ourselves and we want a sexuality and a spirituality and creativity and community that are all integrated where we don’t have to leave any part of ourselves out answer me with the work that I’ve done in Tantra and with my own practices that involves connecting with collie she she is that energy she is fat energy of you know what here’s this is this is who you are this is all of you take it all you know the good the bad the ugly the things that you perceived as beautiful things that you perceive is garbage and use it because it’s yours and that for me has really been the gift of working with Tantra and being on this path wow thank you so much I’m just like smiling like ramakrishna this whole time here he missed that one photo that’s like so ecstatic and blissed-out the love of the mother just is so intoxicating and yeah yeah this is so beautiful for me to hear especially the did you see at the intensity I mean I’ll tell you that a lot of the time for that I was exposed to four years didn’t go anywhere near Shadow work or collie and when it’s when she was finally you know various when she entered my life very forcefully but yet beautifully I realized how much well just started to scratch the surface of what was missing from the westernized you know hyper-sexualized Tantra that’s not really getting into the deep Shadow work so yeah I really appreciate just having you on this in this conversation and if you don’t mind before we get into the the yantra if I could just Explorer some of my questions for you about Kali and how how she can be accessed and what some of her roles are ya so like I said I was going to learning Township techniques and breathwork and eye gazing and meditation and chakras and Kundalini stuff and and and it was just sort of well divorced from Sedona and goddess worship and so you know the encountering of in the wind a true just to passionate Devotion to the goddess for how much love there is there in one set started to pour into my life and when you know female sort of priestesses were starting to enter my life to initiate me and connect me that way I started going on a frenzy of really studying this force of nature that’s beyond words really beyond the iconic symbol of her standing on Shiva really that’s just a map but it’s not the terrain the terrain of her flesh in her being in her dimensions are so vast you know they’re unspeakable and I’ve gotten deeper and deeper into exploring her boundlessness and I’m curious as SUV gun into your ritual practice of of worship how how would you describe visual experiences an emotional and embodiment experiences send just a sort of narrative Beyond iconography that you’ve experienced too kind of compare notes you know I’m saying about that for hours yeah it’s it’s I think there’s always kind of this interesting experience that that we have when we decide to devote ourselves to particular path or even to a particular deity there’s you know kind of navigating that c of contradictions that all of the stories all of the lore all of the imagery on the experiences you hear about other people having there’s all of that that’s kind of floating and the Consciousness and I think it’s particularly complicated with Kali because she’s she’s so she represents a paradigm that to me is about moving beyond Orthodox representation socially Downs ideas of what’s good are appropriate so in some ways she’s she’s she’s really hard to represent and you know I’m constantly reading descriptions of Kali at that I that I think are grossly mistaken and I just a kind of I picked this up in park in preparing for this interview I was doing a bit of research and I was and I noticed that there was an Encyclopedia Britannica it describes collie as the major Hindu goddess whose I can. she calls in mythology commonly associate her with death sexuality violence and paradoxically and some of her later historical appearances motherly love which I think is really funny because I don’t think any of that is paradox in some ways and comprehensible and so I I would actually say that eyes my relationship with Collies when that is I mean how can it not be informed by certain cultural ideas of who she is whether those are coming more from Orthodox Hindu ideas of who she is and I should say that I grew up in a household that very much revered Kali and and and Shiva in particular they were they were on the present so there were lots and lots of beautiful pictures of collie with her necklace with severed skulls and it was always really funny when I had friends coming over to my house and they see these pictures and it’d be like oh my God that’s that’s so creepy that’s so messed up like why do you have these pictures up in your house and I I really agree with a with an enormous amount of reverence for these images which you know that they might look violent on the outside but they’re just they’re just representations you know their representations of things that exist within each and every one of us then and I always for me I always felt that was that was the beauty of it the beauty was in was in the imagery that that didn’t just fit didn’t just done represent her as being kind of the docile nurturing mother but there’s love these in here there’s love even in this and I really grew up with that understanding so none of that snooze paradoxical but at the same time a lot of Hindus will say oh well, he is actually really loving there is no there is no ferocious aspect beer I think that still persist even among people who do follow her and I think that it’s really important to it’s really important to see that so that her love is all encompassing it it really it’s her love is is her dancing in the Charnel grounds it’s her cutting off illusion at its roots it’s her frankly doing all the shit that we humans don’t want to do that we don’t want to face and I think I really I’ve really discovered Kali in my body in my dreams there’s a very there’s a personal relationship that I’ve had to develop with collie that’s about yes it’s about entertaining the way that she appears in the world and imagery and iconography and I think that there’s a place for all of that but it never became quite real to me until I experienced her for myself until I experienced myself in her grip well yeah well I think that the the story that you read that I wrote it was it was about coming face-to-face with her during I guess what I could describe as being a Dark Night of the Soul on at a time in my life where I felt completely alone and in many ways forsaken by just the spiritual practices that I had had and it was just a really it was a very lonely. My life and I didn’t have a spiritual community that I could really share this with and the most intense experience I had is coming face-to-face with Mama was it’s so appropriate it was during my first Ayahuasca Journey and and I it’s it’s funny sometimes when I described that Journey to the people that they’re just horrified because it really felt like I was coming I was coming face-to-face with death with my dad with the death of everything that I had held to be stable and fixed and everything I thought of as being me and and I think it’s really it’s important of course to remember that collie Collies name is it comes from the Sanskrit root for time and there’s nothing that is skates you know the march of time there’s nothing that escapes her and so and I do think of calling is being a goddess of death but I I’ve always seen it as being the death of the ego and that was that was kind of the experience that I that I had and I which is not to say that I think my ego is completely dead or the even that I wanted to be completely and totally different conversation altogether but but I really felt that this this experience that I had of coming face-to-face with her was about overcoming all of these ideas that I had about who I was and I think that when we become encased in those ideas those ideas become a prison and we don’t allow ourselves to grow into what we could be we don’t allow ourselves to move in the direction that our souls urine for and so I it was it was an incredibly on uplifting experience it was the experience of I’m dying and and also understanding that part of me that is eternal that that is not my you know the part of me that is not my body and not my personality and not my ego which is not to say that that stuff is in the gated because I cannot have that experience was just an even deeper appreciation for everything that I do have all of these tools that I do have at my disposal and I just remember coming out about journey of being sort of like wow I have have this body and you know like my body does all this amazing stuff that’s so cool and there was a sense of. Being you know a face of this this larger being that I am but I bet that’s part of the mystery it belongs to the mystery just as she lives in a mystery and I kind of felt that little journey into my death was this this this beautiful on kind of sojourn into that deeper mystery where you know everything that we believe about ourselves is is just untrue on and it’s it’s interesting cuz it feels like to me that was ego obliterating but it was also on I would say that it’s the most loved that I’ve ever felt it’s the most I’ve ever felt and it was in it wasn’t it was coming to me and it was moving through me and I was that love and if anything it felt like it just it it made me so much bigger then I then I ever knew was possible and that’s me is is just kind of stuff ultimate that’s the ultimate encounter with her she shows you how small your ideas of yourself really are there so puny know who you think you are and what you believe you’re capable of compared to the reality which is just so vast it’s it’s like you know if we settle we settle for so little in terms of our lives than 10 we settle for safety but I but I do think that with the soul wants is that experience of vastness and that experience is moving in to know the places that we fear which I kind of like the veil in front of the vastness you know you got it you have to move through that in order to get to in order to get to that place where you like oh yeah this is it this is this is the experience that my soul has been hungering for and I was the experience that I knew I was hungry for when I was in this dead-end marriage where everything like the future had been written it was everything had been predicted I know I could cross it all off my to-do list and die happy according to someone else’s standards of what that happiness was but I would never have gotten to that to that place to that place of you know feeling this Indescribable love the love that comes through when you’re willing to surrender your ideas of who you are and what your life is supposed to look like and said that experience that’s a very that’s that’s always going to be a personal experience for anybody and it’s going to look different for everybody and I’ve got to say that was that was fairly recent in my life and I honestly don’t know that I that I really knew Kali was before that I had an idea I had a deep reverence for her but I wasn’t touched by her in quite the same way as I was when I allowed myself to go into this experience and allowed myself to say yes I’m okay I’m okay with my dad so just to sort of Jump Ahead a little bit I think there are a lot of different ways to really make a connection with her to get in contacts but I do think that one of the quickest route is is Ayahuasca if if any of your listeners are so inclined it seems to be kind of a direct a direct line to her and and I think
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Com and our journey together will begin welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 36 I’m here with Tracy at least and we’re going to be talking all about the Phoenix goddess Temple and the first off I just want to say that this case is near and dear to my heart and since I heard about it a few years ago I felt it it definitely was going to be sort of like a Roe v Wade for sacred sexuality and it’s something that I believe everyone who is involved in the sacred sexuality movement shouldn’t have a good clear understanding of The Facts of the case from Tracy here and his interview and also say that if you listen to any of my previous podcast and you know anything about my personal life story it’ll it’ll make a lot of sense why I care so much and I’ll just put it out there that I feel that we are on the cusp of a paradigm shift for we understand that the natural Spiritual Authority of the Priestess class that should be honored and revered no matter what religious background you have most importantly because of the fact that we’re in a world filled with rapists and child sexual abusers who would do much better to have access sexual access to Healing goddesses and gods who are going to create a line of defense now so that the energy that’s stirring inside of them but doesn’t have a healthy and safe expression with other consenting people they can go and receive a trance station of the energy into something positive in purified and prevent the the heinous crimes that I was victimized by as a young child and it’s a young teenager and also free anchor into the Hearts face of praying for the victims of Elliot Rodgers and think about how the family members of the slain in the massacre that was the result of extreme sexual frustration if we could possibly imagine what the world would look like if men suffering from that anxiety had a healthy sexual initiation through these traditions of sacred feminine Sexual Healing practices and sexual initiation practices what the world would look like if there could be so much less sexual violence and so much more sexual healing and I think that we are going to learn a lot today and we’re going to start to figure out how we can support the efforts of these Frontline Warrior goddesses of peace and light and healing in love that we all desperately yearned for so with that said Tracy thank you so much for opening up your temple space for me in this moment and I’ll say now please bless us with all of your might and magic and mystery finishing up feeling a little altar here at fiery altar on this December 22nd and I have my Yoni symbol my beautiful pink conch shell and then I have the fireball then a mosaic that’s kind of like a stained glass and that reminds me of church and I grew up as in a church so I like I like the feeling that when you go into a Cathedral at Temple Church at a mosque I like how it feels when you go into that set aside Sacred Space so I wanted to bless the moment if I could that way anyway yeah so how about the history of the brief history of the Phoenix goddess Temple so that we know what we’re talking about and what is now being investigated I have been doing group practice since 2002 and I never set out to be a center holder for group practice it was something that I deliberately set out to do but what was happening is I was working in a certain way and people were responding to how I was working really it was the attitude with which I was working and so I had Seekers and that’s a that’s I’m for a very long time I’ve used a certain kind of language early on the state of Washington called me up and said you know we we have a complaint it on your website and it was a website I wasn’t even using called true Spectrum Tantra North a picture of a massage table and it said Relax on a massage style table and even say massage table is a massage – stufful table and they’re like you know that’s a reference to massage you can’t do that and so they wanted to visit the premises make sure we weren’t doing illegal massage it was in 2003 at the light Body Temple and in that I wrote her a response to the government to the state of Washington to Health Board and they accepted my explanation of what I was doing and they said we want you to know we keep funds to do will keep the file open and you’ll probably she’ll probably be visited by some undercover inspectors just a follow-up to make sure that you’re not doing that and you know we never really were but it made it very important at that point but I had to draw a line in the sand very early I’m not doing anything with massage it really isn’t massage we’ve always been calling at the altar Altar and the alt AR is consecrated that is dedicated with spiritual and and that upon this altar u a l t e r u alter towards the Divine and so we we don’t have massage tables we have altars and and then because I’m really into the quantum physics aspect of it they human-like body then I lights we always like the under part as well and with little white twinkle lights and it’s to represent that we are made up of particles flight and to not forget that so anyway so yeah I’ve been rocking with the government for a while and always successfully that’s why this was really shocking when it happened and yeah so it for a long time I’ve been doing group practice because I wanted to I I didn’t know that what I was doing with sacred when I began but I had a very Mystic beginning a Mystic initiation into Central Bodywork it was much more than that so the person that I was initiated by into this sensual touch work I think we called it central Bodywork is what it was called but this person was actually a magical intersexed person they were born both I think that that he she actually use the term hermaphrodite and this was astonishing for me I really felt like I had fallen down the rabbit hole but I was very happy to be there if it was like a whole nother world and I was Bible refer to him as he because he was literally living as a man at the time this initiation into this touch and what happens and how much people need it and his thing was he said you know if you give people the touch and a good a good massage a good a good all over touch then they’ll always come back and people don’t they don’t really when it comes to sex see no shopping around for sex with her that’s variety people never go back whatever but you said this is different you want to be a Healer like I don’t think he used the word healer but he talked a lot about the importance of touch and then if you gave good touch gave a good massage that was his word that he was trained in massage in a lot of people who work in a sensual field are in fact trained in the Sun and they could never let the Two Worlds touch because the protocols and ethics of massage don’t allow you to touch the whole body so RBI came from that background that touch I was never trained in massage but I I found that I had a knack for it I would gift for it I think a lot of people might find it given the right circumstances or writing for a judgment a little bit of demonstration a lot of people might find that they are healers that they have the hands of healer I found with very little effort that I was good at it and I’ve I’ve met other people who is soon as they got in chamber they were just naturally good at it so that’s a real thing and that’s me that’s body wisdom and there’s also the whole aspect of past lives and is something did you have a temple life and is now you’re remembering it in your body’s remembering it at the cellular level and you know how to do things that your mind doesn’t know how to do to me that’s real Mitten might not be to everybody but to me it’s real I’ve had some serious past life experiences that were extremely Vivid Ananda they weren’t anything else they weren’t dreams they weren’t wasn’t my imagination and it was like chilling so you know chillingly real how so the temple then evolved out of your practice of groups and people wanted to do there was a a percentage of people who really liked the idea of doing the work in a sacred Manner and people say what do you mean sacred and I say well yes I can’t really talk to you about sacred sexuality without some sort of definition for the sacred and for me that the practicing the operating definition of the temple is if you’re willing to be grateful if you are grateful for the gift of life that means that you’re operating in a sacred way if you are ignoring or even cursing the gift if you see this as a weigh station to a better before you get to a better place to me that’s not sacred and that’s kind of pagan it’s kind of Native American it’s an earth-based view that our sacred is everything around us if the the mall the matter the material is all sacred and but there is a thing about setting aside a Sacred Space and anyone who’s ever held space as its Center holder for a church Center holder for a temple even a sitter holder for a business or anything like that anytime group you know there’s a you know there’s a bubble in which the group conducted specialized activity and the energies are concentrated within that bubble they’re not diffuse they’re not out of the world you’re you’re concentrating those energy than that’s what the temples has it concentrates the energy so we were we were you know as far as the case goes I see how would I put this in a short Manor I moved to Arizona I did ceremony December 21st of 07 up at Sedona Temple and I was there with tomorrow brussaux and we were committed the two of us to founding a Sisterhood sacred sexual nunnery if you will send you know seen the movie A League of Their Own and there was this beautiful camaraderie of these women who had played baseball when it was really no one you know it was a guy’s game and what are you doing with these skirts out there on the field and really doing the sacred sexuality work is kind of like that you know you’re you’re sort of people think it’s a novelty you’re bucking a trend Yuri misunderstood and I just thought this would be great for us to have this this Sisterhood that appreciates and passes on knowledge and and we kind of have each other’s back so that was that kind of the through line for me is the Mystic sisters and I began to call us the Mystic sisters in the fall of 2002 and I swear that it was a church with spiritual healers and Earth stewards they offered me a charter into July of 2002 and So within a year of doing central Bodywork I had moved into realizing that for me and for a few other people that this work was sacred they felt they were really having like I don’t know like a church like experience but you know spiritual transformation shifting at the soul level shifting at the cellular level people were I was getting the feedback that we were changing lives even with simple body work because one of the things is if you’re doing the sacred sexual and you’re in that place of gratitude for the gift of life and and you are a holding space for whatever your version of sacred is people when they when they touch that they they come into your chamber your healing room and a lot of times they’ll just collapse into the wonderful Vibes of The Killers space and I want to divert a little bit here. Go off because it was about 2,000 and Hotsy was when I went to Florida I don’t know what’s a while ago very early two thousands I happened to hear in the middle of the night this woman talking and I wish I could credit her and I cannot but I heard on the radio this woman was talking about how the healers chamber the room must have the elements in it and that if your room has fire actual fire and you have water like a beautiful sacred bowl of water or poor or perhaps also a fountain we’ve got running water but properly placed of course and then you got heavier than Ware pots and maybe some huge Stones the biggest ones you can carry in big huge rocks in the north of your chamber or maybe you maybe you put them somewhere else and then having the air the fan so that there’s always this movement of air and she said you know when you put the four elements in a chamber and you have actual like a real tree a living tree and the end the leaves are rustling in the breeze of the fan there’s that there’s a an instantaneous healing that happens at the particle level that the each element breaks down two different sorts of molecules and particles and that that is so when it’s when a Healer sets at their chamber correctly a huge healing happens with the person just being in the room and it ends so that that struck me cuz I was already working with the four directions and the elements and so that just made sense and so I began to always do that with the chamber’s infect with the Earth portion of it we would buy two of every plant and two of every little tree and we would rotate them into the outer areas like the classrooms the hallway the foyer and switch the plants out so that we can have living trees a lot of work to do it that way and sopa and that’s where people have to slow down and end in really you don’t do your practice all the way 10 to those 10 to those living plans as part of your altar Pioneer sacred work anyway that’s going off on the healers listening so I wanted to share that it wasn’t my idea but I found that it’s very true if you go out of your way to have the elements in your chamber and properly Place everything so pretty like going back to the first thing I ever did was Brock with the government on massage at massage without a license and I’m sure we weren’t saying that in our phone script or anything I’m sure we called it sensual touch it even sensual Bodywork had like a different connotation so if I’m not mistaken it was right around the spring of 2003 that that I began to use the phrase whole body healing and it’s interesting because the word heel h e a l means in the Latin to make whole whole and to be whole whole is have your compartmentalize pieces brought back into one into a homeless and then when you are whole that’s also the same root word as holy holy so to heal is to behold behold is to be made holy and you become one with everything so I got really clear that I wasn’t doing massage I got really clear at the time I wrote a very specific letter about chakra balancing I mentioned a Bianca as a self-care Ritual from Arya Veda and that we were using a similar long Slidin Strokes on the limbs towards the heart and swirling on the limb give me the joints with with other body Benz you juice wrld it basic Avianca self-care ritual of anointing the body yourself but in the case of visiting the light Body Temple we were doing the ritual for you giving people different oils that they could choose from and and then I also was of course bringing up the holy anointing tradition in the Bible and Mary Magdalene as the anointing of Jesus I mean she was not Not only was she not a prostitute and I wanted to kick it in here that it wasn’t till 1969 at the Vatican admitted that my meds when was not a prostitute and they have yet to really acknowledge that Not only was she not a prostitute she was a priestess and the word Magdalene as she was Mary of magdala magdala which is the triple towered Temple of the Goddess there’s been a recent a very thorough translation of it and there’s no question that Mary Magdalene was a priestess of the Goddess temple in magdala that she was a holy anointer and I brought that up with the state of Washington and you know they accepted all of that and I have that letter and and they did probably come and do some undercover work and visit us and an however we were you know we were let go we I think no one ever visited my places that didn’t think I was sincere and because I am sincere and and there’s always people around me who feel that way to really when we want change part of it is is giving each other that witness to say I like this thing over here better let’s let’s focus on it let’s give it some energy this is better than what we’re doing and you need to do that together so that’s something that the temple did is it created vortexes of divine witness where people would get cool ideas somebody else would witness it back there might be a way to implement it because you are a community and so it’s a really it’s like a living organism that that was happening with the temples At The Florist beautiful so this idea of the witnessing I feel like a lot of fish Shadow behaviors in romantic and various kinds of interpersonal relationships that are not observed by at least another one other person if not a community of people it’s a lot of these really abusive Tendencies are allowed to fester in total secrecy and privacy so Fellowship around intimacy that structured and disciplined and in sacred and with the the higher vibrational procedures in place so that you’re not devolving into debauchery that’s a with excessive drugs or alcohol in a lot of people are just taking it you know if you make Eros into a sloppy kind of parties or if you look at some of the ancient temples there was always an aspect that was there were Spirits there were Vapors there were things that you would take and there were and pleasure was definitely part of it you know one of the things that was a real eye-opener for me was when some people in Seattle they have a I don’t know if they’re doing it now it really going to come put a damper on it when we when this happened in Phoenix but they call themselves sensual Seattle and they were teaching a certain type of sacred sexuality it involved what always washing the feet in the ancient tradition that did a lot of really cool stuff but they point out Bruce isella born of of that group he said you know because if you see if you look at sacred sexuality what they all have in common these ancient lineage has around sacred sex is that they all have to do with living forever they all have to do with connecting the orgasm to immortality and what Bruce what’s Ella born said he’s like you no pleasure is a respectable part of what we’re doing you don’t want it who would want to live forever if you’re not there’s no pleasure and we sort of we’re going to wear down on Pleasure we we we get down on it even in the touch committee were like we’re afraid of being hedonistic into carnal to Primal but really honestly we’re all living in our head I mean maybe not in the country Community but out in the world people are living in the upper chakras and they could use some more Primal touch body yeah maybe Primal nature taking over these are places temples many more like them to come in my in my future vision and I hope hopes and dreams so that we are helping each other navigate these white waters you know that the quick update would be we’ve always had the potential to use religion as a defense the state did not want that to happen I think when they raided the temples they got a hold of our paperwork our computers are videos or pictures they saw our altars whatever I think there wasn’t there had to be there at some level like holy crap we really did write a church here but but at some level they’re like it doesn’t matter we think they’re breaking the law so you know you fast forward to four and a half years later and sincerity is is always the defense like you can use religion as a defense if you’re sincere and where we’re at in December 2015 after waiting for your little over four years for this thing to go to is it all of the Witnesses are saying this was my religion this was my church it was my school I was there to give my gift as a Healer or I was there to be healed or both the states as recently as this week and I think we have all this you know we’re going to start uploading all of the trial video able to buy it for $30 a day we can walk out with the trial video so we purchase the first four weeks and we are in the process of uploading that and we had we already have it up except for that and it is actually but you have to we found out we have to hide all the phases of the undercover detective like I’m responsible for that for hiding them so this is a call to action for financial support his ninja as a community is a huge defense it’s a real defense and then what happens is they have to prove or harm which which is my really circuitous way of getting back around to shame doing things in secrecy what part does Temple play in helping people get over this sort of shadowy aspect of intimate relations where let’s say you’re monogamous but you your partner’s no longer having sex with you and you’re never going to break that Bond but you don’t so don’t want to go to your grave never having sex again we’re just never being touched there or whatever that is that you’re not willing to to keep going and then you, you find someone in the Temple and so this is it’s interesting because of the sincerity thing now is back on the table religious defense is back on the table as of this last week and what it means that they have to prove harm in the hot day in Arizona there’s something a ruling that had to do with criminal accusations and being defended by a Church there was a gentleman by the name of Hardesty who went all the way to the Arizona supreme court defending marijuana as his religious Sacrament and because he was in his car there were like we’re going to we agree with you that this can be a religious Sacrament but we’re not going to let you have it in your car because he was saying I can have it anywhere anytime at all time and if it and they’re like because of the way the laws are at present we have to treat this the same as alcohol therefore you can’t have it in your car even under religious protection and then when did that when they did this Hardesty ruling they also and I’m going to have to paraphrase this but put it into writing that in the state of Arizona if I government doesn’t like what a church is doing and there’s and there’s no clear law no precedent around that particular religious group than the state has the burden to harms before it takes actions against the church WIll what they’re looking at with the temple is a lot of goodness every single person has testified about couples work working with women yes we admit that yes it was mostly male Seekers sing mostly female practitioners but we were always available for couples work always available for women’s work and I did do those thing and workshops and classes and coursework so the jury is getting to see all of that overall it’s been fun in Arizona it’s quite interesting that they get to ask question understanding that looks like a real Church why did you do this so going back around to what this Hardesty ruling is it means that the state has to prove a harm if they want to prosecute the church and end really so right after social work and is sort of feeding back into that sector the wisdom of of the Amazon and and Beyond and so is that something that you have I thought I remember reading somewhere you know we’re talking to you at some point about how this is this is like you could be hired by the more formal above ground and sectors of social work or Community work with where you can be brought in to bring some of the stuff that would normally be or I guess it’s just it’s a very interesting Cutting Edge of an intersection and I if I’m not mistaken that’s that you you are like sort of partially in that world 2 of of social work or is that something I understand correctly or social worker social worker y’all are layout string this conversation back and see where where I where I am placed social work as well as all the modalities of counseling and healing you know like they are all part and parcel to supporting and upholding status quo capitalist system so I’m going to like you know like you know also having been in the punk scene also had a big impact on my my party now thought you know in terms of healing these wounds we have to look at that you know we can’t we can’t say like that are healing is going to be independent of a world that is reeling and suffering from the continuation of this system as it is and so that’s where I for me like bringing capitalism into the equation is is something that’s real tricky it’s something that I feel needs to be kind of understood that you know we we can’t just rely on having sting services that we can pay for because that creates a gap you know where some people are going to have accessible abilities to to the healing and others won’t and that’s that’s not healthy for anyone and and also that it doesn’t address the root cause of why we need social workers to begin with and why we need counseling and all of that so I really like the notion of cultural healing that’s where more where I would be comfortable in any way kind of looking at myself as any kind of healer I don’t think we we can really heal individuals that’s really something that you know a person will need to and it’s not like they can be facilitated to do their own healing work but nobody can fix us we have to fix ourselves that’s that’s more I think a more powerful Paradigm to be apart of but you know I I I have worked in the realm I focused therapy and you know I have spent quite a bit of time around the spirit plant medicines and seeing how the plant medicines have assisted and I do I do continue continuously work to increase my knowledge and wisdom around working with us plants and and that also brings us back into that hole realm of discussion around you know ancestors and working with them or perhaps that’s something we haven’t really touched upon but maybe she said it’s just that in any form of healing that we do I guess for me the important thing that I really try to bring into whatever I do connecting back with her ancestors and healing the trauma of how we were disconnected from those ancestors and how that plays out in any kind of sexual wounds or emotional wounds that we carry and so that’s something that I I I feel like the role of initiation and ritual can can really do and that’s that’s been its Province ever since people began doing patrols I think it’s to build upon the legacy of their ancestors and to draw and their their help and support cool said that yeah thank you for helping me understand the other parameters a little better and and 100% there with you I have I have been because I live in the United States where there’s different laws around no prostitution in in how that affects the healing with sexual touch and pleasure as medicine and stuff like that is a lot more yes I understand in in Canada there’s there’s a lot more interesting legal space in order to do Hands-On Sexual Healing work relative to the US where it’s completely off limits in so I because of that adapting to that reality and also is a permaculture designer myself I have to think very deeply about how to navigate this issue of for-profit healing work that kind of in most sectors is about like you said I’ll put in my own words it’s like they want to know if if the if you’re at a time of time robot that supposed to be producing a set amount to be a productive member of the of the GDP then then if you’re not functioning properly than the the goal of the mainstream social work or psychotherapeutic or psychiatric Fields they’re trying to get you back into the rat race as soon as possible and they’ll do that with drugs with talk therapy or whatever that is about avoiding through tissue which is the disconnection from urethane from a healthy holistic wild habitat you know a night as a primitivist I see that you know the solution to your Neurosis is to retry belies and Get Growing your own food again in and rebuild that fabric so you know there with you on that tension about right livelihood in and taking money for healing and what is he doing so I really like what you said and that just is going to it’s going to help me a lot looking at healing the cultural level and healing the if I’m understanding right and I’ll put a couple my own words on it but I feel like we’re trying to build the scaffolding or were trying to design the context for people to take the responsibility of a personal healing and gone to that journey and so if you if what would you say are some practical skills are tools from all of your things that you would teaching and training and a things that you discovered in your own journey to where you’re in power tools for empowerment that you suggest or are resources that you suggest people Explorer to if they’re called to do the cultural healing work weather for profit or non-profit. Some dance between the two or it and then what what are some recommendations for people who are on their own path and aren’t necessarily called to do the the cultural healing yeah I mean it’s it’s a pretty vast subject that one but I think that a few points that I could think about and talk about our that I’m going to this idea of bringing you back in the station rights and recognizing that in the absence of them what do we have you know we are we are sadly in there without initiated Elders so many of us and if there are any of Elders that hold that ability to to guide those those ones are those are worth their weight in gold you know there really is people that we should try to lift up and and give them their recognition and see you know and then in the absence of that it’s like we kind of by default Our Generations people that will have to hopefully fulfill that and reach a place where we can actually help upcoming generations to go in a way that they don’t have to completely go it alone and and figure it out on them on their own the way that so many of us have had to and so there is a movement around Rites of Passage I sit on the board if you passageways which is a network that focus is squarely on you no Rites of Passage for you coming of age from all different walks and and and modalities you know some of them are our Boys to Men oriented some of them are girls to women some of them are starting to incorporate non gender binary kind of approaches as well which is good and and this whole focus on bringing back the ancestors into looking at Rites of Passage is is starting to happen and something that I focused on and so that’s that’s a resource you know people can go to youth passageways. Oregon and look at what programs are out there and they can also think about how they can add to that list and bring in things that are needed around especially around sexuality and relationship which is often I noticed kind of a big gap in a lot of programs out there you know because they’re confined confined or constrained by the conservative values where they take place and you know what school system is you know this is one of those places lagging for that kind of thing so it’s a role that I think that many people who understand the need can step into and cultivate as career paths you know and some people are pig figuring out how they can weave their credentials says on Sexual Health Educators or sexual therapist or sexual trauma or no trauma-based therapists you know into this realm of initiation and that’s that needs to happen on a on an increased level the other I see a lot of because of what I was saying around looks really don’t how many Avenues to learn other than through you know what the books in the workshops and offerings around sexuality thoughts unfortunately are not rooted in in people’s only need two lineages generally speaking you know so the whole Tantra movement is pretty much so you know a cultural appropriator of New Age fight version of those Traditions that would have been squashed by Christianity especially and so I think there’s work to be done there and as much as possible Retreat retrieving reconstructing are reconnecting with our own ancestral Traditions which I’m sure you know had their own knowledge wisdom around how to how to raise healthy harmonious individuals with healthy sexualities from from the vantage point of how what little I do know has been has been done in indigenous cultures and without wanting to appropriate for them from them I’ll just give way of examples out of that you know in and certain cultures that are studied like the Mayan culture and I think to some degree on certain places within Creek culture there’s examples of how as societies you know that the children are raised from an early age 2 reach a point where they understand how to how to harmonize with the other sex and how to to look after each other and that’s just a very basic principle that I feel like you know that’s that’s worth kind of learning how to integrate into our family structures if we have children that were raising just to keep in mind that you know there is a need for them to learn skills around things like consent and around being responsible with with one’s sexual energies and and I needs to start before they reach that age of adolescence where they’re just harder to connect with if you haven’t built up that Foundation so that’s something that I think about will do you so if I if if we check out that the organization that you mention is it would that be good place to find and something like a more enlightened or more conscious like sexual education curriculum or guidebook do you know if people were working on something like that so if I know if you know parents who were going through the puberty of their child that they have something that’s not just this cold clinical Western and even though that sort of evolving a little bit you know with things like a sack didn’t and whatnot I see a lot but the The ancestral wisdom and you know the ceremonial Rites of Passage you know how does it how does the Modern Family say okay well you’re about to start feeling you know hormonal Energy’s how do we give you know create even if it’s just within their family or their Community yoga or whatever is something more than what’s being offered in the normal sex ed or what they’re listening in gangster rap music and watching on sitcoms obviously you know it’s enough for lack of lot of alternative options it’s one one place to look and we’re always looking for others so whenever we discover something then we will see to auditory resources and we are trying to vet those resources and those organizations to make sure that they really are you know at least there’s some some level of you know safe recommendation that we can give for those those organizations we’re not we’re not in the position to really kind of completely you know set standards but we are trying to we have a code of what we call it a cross-cultural protocol so we do look at that aspect that you have for what we’re talking about that’s you know if that’s another layer that we will hopefully get to eventually and I do know that there are people within our Network who are really strongly focused on this particularly around girls to women kind of education and and Rites of Passage and some of the Boys to Men once but I think it’s also something we need to to enhance as well oh that’s great yeah that’s that’s that’s what I wanted to hear so that I can just refer people to this ongoing and so and then the LSI is kind of its there’s a Facebook I’ve been interacting with the the Facebook group for a while so is that something you recommend people plug-in I mean that’s the goal of that is to feature blogs and generate discussions from those blogs and also to establish a resource of services as well as information and so that’s you know running on in a very limited volunteer capacity and so you know it’s something that I hope will eventually become a very powerful resource but already it’s you know it’s been feedback that I’ve received that you know even just the the group that we have on Facebook somebody posted recently. You know it’s really help them in their in their path which is nice to hear and I’ve heard that a few times and I try to curate that group in such a way where it’s like you know it’s trying to generate discussion and it’s it’s trying to be a safe space where where people can get into some of those I’m intimate revealing is of what what’s going on in their lives one of the things that kind of came out of love sex intelligence local as a connection with Tamara and the love school that they have which is a very congruence philosophy to love sex intelligence and they’re their work to try to create or with to create safe spaces for people to to share stories of what’s going on in their intimate lover sexual lives and and B witnessed in a way that is non-judgemental where they’re not being flooded with advice but more just being witnessed which is kind of connected to that whole framework for Rites of Passage itm witnessing each other and so it’s it’s trying to also look at how you know communities can succeed in their in their goals which might include you know like being more sustainable or being an alternative to the systems around us and also being a part of a more peaceful kind of culture through filling this hole that is often where things go wrong where people are are are not feeling safe to talk about these these human experiences around wounding around are our hearts and our sexuality so I’ve been part of a Practice Group here that has been circulating also to other parts of BC and I think it’s a really it’s a really powerful movement to be a part of yeah we’re getting close to an hour or so I have to take a few more minutes and I’m get a couple thoughts and feelings some responsible for 1 something that his is coming up for me that I think it’s really empowering is this like idea that wouldn’t it be nice if some of us started to think of ourselves as aspiring Elders I’ve never thought of it that way until this conversation and there’s a little spark of joy and me that that says you know puts in context the the punk rock lifestyle that I had of live fast Die Young and just you know if it’s not throwing yourself into the meat grinder of insurrectionary activism you know with this sort of Death Wish you know this martyr complex or whatever it’s like those are really unsustainable archetypes to follow and they leave a lot of people when they get to my age in about 35 like in a sort of existential crisis that will the revolution didn’t happen and I didn’t get killed I didn’t die in the gutter you know I mean what am I going to do now and it’s like well maybe it’s time to become an aspiring Elder and you know clean up your act and and then start to think about how you’re going to make it easier cuz I there’s a lot of things that I had to go through that I would seriously love to have no one else ever have to go through and if you know if we can live in that. you know that is what you’re supposed to think that I think of you say you know you can you can learn from the wisdom of Elders who have gone through and made the mistakes that you’re probably going to go through or you can just be hard-headed and learn all your lessons the hard way but I mean we’ve had to learn a lot of hard lessons in the absence of the eldership but I think if we take on that there’s a yeah me too. It seems obvious but really the way you put it his medicine for me to think you know it’s a dignified path to be an aspiring Elder and then it makes you not be so how do I can help you defeat that that that grinding pressure that oh my I’m going to lose my looks and I’m going to lose my energy and I’m going to be in the state of deprecation towards death and that’s very much the greatest fear of the western manicured Uno photoshopped airbrushed identity like you’re not really giving any hope that aging will be of any benefit in here just marginalized further and further so I thank you for that serve very much still give that time sacred eldership dignity not a light title to hold I think the true Elder wouldn’t really feel comfortable in it cuz it’s defining attributes of an elder that is really one that can help that role be the best it can be is one that is is really accountable is really present isn’t so on the move that if you can’t you know be relied upon to be there for the people that it serves now needs to ideally be in the in the fellowship of other Elders to kind of keep it in in in check in a way like we have to watch for the Cole group kind of phenomenon where people you know place a lot of weight on that person and in a way that can privilege them in certain ways and also lead to potential like power distortions and things like that you know it’s it’s only human that people will make mistakes and so having that kind of accountability of other people and also that time yeah you have people heart or a different there’s always like in every phase of life with the lifecycle there’s there’s like the maturing phases and so there’s like you know there’s a baby elder there’s enough adult Elder and then Senior Elder and so it’s just we have to learn at each stage of Life how to become the mature version of what that stage is and says just something to think about as well and it’s good to to get your feet wet early on in life so that you know we can have deep roots and and the and those are the kinds of people to like in the Tamara situation out of the black community they have a circle of Elders who are basically people who have grown with a community enough that they know the people in their community and then they serve a role as potential kind of like the Matchmaker but you know in a way where people can approach them in and ask them like you know I’m interested in this person and they can help you assess whether this is the right time or what is a good or bad idea and you know they can kind of that. Whole courtship in a way that you know really I think I wish there were more of those people around here don’t you let me relax you know learn the hard way what does that we’re just not compatible certain people in The Matrix the I mean yeah I’m not I’m not a political scientist of the Matrix but I will say that what got me peaked on the ecstatic trance dance group ritual ceremony festival thing was it really when I saw I think it was maybe the second movie or maybe it was the second or the third but there was a scene where they’re just getting down to like Juno Reactor I think was a soundtrack of a butt there is something beautiful about seeing the different the warrior culture Guided by elders and of course there’s different the archetypes playing out in Conflict split that to me was took it further than then the Star Trek Federation is a futuristic Elder guided Council guided kind of reality so that was kind of fun but yeah so that’s what came to mind when you’re at we’re talking about that be so cool if you’re early sexual oracle’s who you go to you know if we’re going to give you insights and maybe even have name your child for you or something cool like that you know be so cool but right on then will I worry about at the hours so do you have any closing touch you want to share or any other resources or should we just I’ll post the the links that you mention and I’ll definitely encourage people to stay informed and keep an eye out for your anything coming up you have any appearances or anything exciting like that coming up you want to mention I think yeah I think I covered a lot of it and I just wanted to maybe plant a seed while I have the airwaves here about something that I’d I’d eventually like to work on presenting which is around insert Intercultural relationships and also decolonizing our relationships as well and just thinking about how how we can heal some of these ancestral traumas and use that has as as a means to strengthen our relationships and also our society right on I’ll be looking forward to everything that you’re you’re expressing in the world and I hopefully yeah maybe sometime in the future we can talk about skill sets for Beyond Christian monogamy that would be a great topic so yeah how would you feel about that maybe we can sometime in the next few months follow up with something like that. Maybe by the by the time I’ll have more of a personal lived experience to a base conversation around that I think you know in terms of people who are already I don’t know how many listeners here are on a Christian spiritual path without that many but if the energy and gnosticism and sacred marriage not going to the alchemical top in the in the Gnostic tradition but I I wouldn’t make any claims to be an expert in that area but it’s definitely something to look at cool alright then we will be in touch and will follow up sometime in the future and thank you so much so be I really enjoyed it and I know it’s taking us a while to get this to get this done but I think it was perfect and I couldn’t ask for anything more so you have a wonderful day. 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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved so welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 6 this is a conversation that I had about radicalism activism and spirituality with a dear friend and Mentor Arena so I hope you enjoy it and learn a lot and I mistake I’m going green now is especially my talk to her mainstream Consciousness from buying green products to trying to get more to this abstract concept is Mother Earth where you know it’s kind of a whereas from a more traditional cultural perspective it’s actually experiential and something is very real and very different types of feminine energies and all of that I think it’s becoming more apparent green Consciousness and you know the re-emergence of the goddess in a in a very abstract symbolic an on-and-off and commercialized way you know what this better nothing great but there’s a different deeper need to to go back further in time and to reconnect with deeper roots of connectedness I think you know to to the planet and Consciousness and energy and Divinity and there’s definitely a lot of time-tested methodologies and techniques and kind of sacred modalities to for people to in modern modern people who are there ways you can teach people in modern society how to find that within themselves within the plant cells have a long introduction but I just wanted to tie in the context of why this is relevant to going green and I think it is important to I look at things in this way so do you want to kind of give him the directions yourself what you’re involved in a little bit about your your background and and then we can get into some pointed questions sure my my name is Rita Desai I know my background is in social justice organizing my my academic back on his in economics and politics and I was organizing mainly in the area of workers rights and and anti-corporate campaigns and it’s something I mean social transformation social justice is something that I am very very passionate about I mean I can talk a little bit about this later but my most fertile rewarding work was in India where I was coordinating a campaign that was resisting the rise of corporate retail chain you know because of the destruction of could have on agriculture sector in India and also because of their wave of Twitter material culture that is that it is bringing currently and that it would it would just reinforce and you know it was through 2006/2007 an end and working on the campaign and I’m meeting with a large amount of success in this campaign that I realized will external at the end of a year-and-a-half I was completely burnt out and and stressed out and just not really a nice person which is when I came to realize that something needs to change because if I’m really hoping to build no transformation in the world that have to be sustainable so it’s through through through my head of organizing pass into what I called in a lot of ways external organizing that I came to realize I can’t do this without putting myself in my own self development my own well-being into this work until I so and so I am now doing what I call Inner transformation linking inner transformation to social transformation work where I am I’m bridging spirituality with social justice and within this process really going down going through my own spiritual path which you know which you brought up sort of the rise of the Goddess now this is something that’s something that I’ve been studying something that I’ve been teaching in terms of reconnecting to you know my feminine power and and and helping to teach women to connect to their feminine power as one of the greatest sources of Our Own Strength confidence Health Vitality connection to the Earth and also a power of 4 for social transformation what I’m doing now is is is is consciousness-raising and in personal personal transformation for this larger social transformation now that was great that was perfect thank you for sharing all that and down actually one or two before moving on I think you mentioned before that you hadn’t been able to work with friend on Toshiba is that correct oh yeah when in India we it was a campaign ad campaign is called India FDI watts and so we worked we assembled a pretty broad constituency of groups individuals that were either directly or indirectly affected by the country of a multinational corporation still Vandana Shiva was definitely a big partner in in the campaign and Lord of the work that she has been to bang around you know around fighting corporations and agriculture sector of the WTO and various other trade agreement that and also genetically modified seeds as an Arbiter had a lot of respect for her work and I’m also the fact that she so commonly on they’ll promote the concept of egocentrism which is something you don’t think that we hear the women’s lives after the sixties and if it kind of subsided in the main thing before before I became to sleep with a clear we’re even had the sensitivity to be looking for it I think that’s a huge issue and you know kind of set up Helsing Academia and hasn’t had a lot of water but I think one of the people who really put that to the end of Praxis and release you know Alexa Hands-On practical application and wanted to give you a few questions here and we Define spirituality for people who literally have just lived their whole life and I left brain and everything comes wrapped in a package and goes into a garbage can or recycling bin and very thin rational linear reality that you know the Matrix and that doesn’t separate or seperate holy place to experience you have a quick definition of spirituality that you can use to get people dancing well I guess for me spirituality is in the broadest and maybe in the most basic sense is is turning inwards is you know is turning inwards and recognizing that we have an inner life you know that that isn’t necessarily all based in the brain and an in a lot of ways to connect connecting to the heart and understanding you know the truth and of the heart and listening and understanding what it means to actually live through the heart you know I I’ve been thinking about this a lot in terms of how to talk about spirituality with people involved in social justice movements and involved in the last because it because it’s interesting that that in a lot of circles and definitely in a lot of circles that I was a part of you know it’s part of the labor movement and producer organizing there is this this this notion that you know that going inwards that’s that personal transformation that spirituality is something that is only for the elite to do when you know when in reality it the entire all of the structures that we’re sort of critical of you know capitalism is based on materialism the entire structure is based on finding fulfillment from material objects and and everything that is external to us we do we don’t need that I mean this is something that that we’re actually turning away from in Western culture right now this this constant consumption is constant need to find happiness in something external ourselves and so for me I mean spirituality is really just to to turn to turn inwards in to find you no understand what happiness is from within 2 2 too costly open to Greater levels of love and you know and truth from within ourselves and really sort of transcending the ego and and and and examining you know what examining you are how we have been taught and programmed in a lot of ways by Society by the media buy our parents you know and so for me it’s too sweet to go inwards and to really find Freedom by coming to higher levels of consciousness that come from inner truth as opposed to the outer truth and so I mean that’s and in the end you know what it really practical terms that means it means personal growth and I’m committing to one’s personal growth so you know there’s they ancient Priestess traditions in India and the goddess traditions in India what they would say that you know these bees were women who devoted their lives to to God or to a higher power and really that that means what it means to devote yourself to God or to vote to devote yourself to you know a higher power and means nothing more than to devote yourself to your own personal growth and to always you know understand that that that this life is it’s for for for growth is it for development you know we’re not perfect none of us are perfect and so-and-so spirituality for me as understanding this end and constantly you know developing ourselves I’m going into work to do this Slavic radio going inward Guided by the heart and grows in Kirkland almond overall pretty comprehensible 14 I like working definition Cosmic Dimension but it’s not a sort of like point A to point B with here in a spaceship and go to the other side of the Galaxy it’s like lit murder Consciousness into higher dimensionality so that space and time the way we can see them in four dimensions you know it’s transcended in and there is no attic of the cosmos end of reality that include and get transcend space and time and figure out a way to making music people to understand I think from what you’re saying experience and going inward your body into like a vehicle to travel through Dimensions early and have greater access to knowledge and greater access to healing energy and insights and all kinds of things that coming through from different song more than more than what we you don’t scientifically except to be the physical limitations of putting two ancient teachings of Tantra are our bodies are microcosms of the universe you know within a sweet contain the the greater universe and so we have tremendous. Tremendous capabilities within us if we if we are if we actively to tap into this and work with the energy that we have are the energy of the universe that we have within us but for most of us if we don’t do that you know and I mean it really is I mean you’re able to reach higher higher levels of consciousness and and you know interconnectedness in and and different dimension at the same time I mean from it from the perspective of you know actually creating real change I think spirituality is that what should also be looked at it something very practical you know in terms of spiritual tips to do physical exercise to take care of yourself to take care of your body to live healthy you know to to be a happy in relationships tune to know how to rid had to know how to have healthy healthy and happy relationships a lot of the teachings that that I am learning that I transmit are based on ancient sword of principles and ancient wisdom how to how to how to live and how to live happy you know and then of course you know as you know to sort of one piece with one piece of the Baseline things are are taken care of cuz we need a strong Foundation to be able to reach them of the higher-level dimensions because if you don’t have a strong Foundation if you’re not able to actually live in the world you know I’m function in the world then there’s also not it is supposed to be coming store that’s it it’s very hard to put practice into action it’s hard to bridge the spiritual with the social you know if it’s all up in the sky yeah I think it’s like at all I mean some of that Carly Ln truth but like what I Look At You No Going Back even before civilizations emerged to be able to create text and writing systems and to be able to go to fight and reproduce culture in anything but a oral traditional way I mean cuz I said for the 99% of human history we all lived in tribal shamanic cultures where medicine men and women wood would they would keep a lineage of teaching and wisdom of thicker plants and sacred rituals and chanting and techniques to enter into ecstatic altered state and be able to see the future or be able to harness some sort of healing energy would be able to direct healing energy and agricultural portal into these other dimensional so what other types of things another current running through it and running through ecology in the earth’s ecosystems yeah it’s really nice you’d like for modern society to not have you know either the demonic and under more different ways in in City culture I’m interested in like ways that people can see there’s not and really like to disconnected from the daily you know Community either they’re sort of religious or spiritual person on your like separate from the community in it true in some cases with the people that like you know really what the reason it does not receive any of this is so that they can maintain I was thinking of the teachings in the traditions and that sort of Doorway to the portals but they’re their function is to be Distributing that that information and energy and wisdom throughout the whole culture that everybody has some you know practical means to have access to these things that are beyond our normal sense isn’t our normal day-to-day life and fill I said you as an instructor and cuz I know I experienced the workshop and I was blown away because a lot of stuff that I hadn’t courtesy erratically believe in or around her stood or heard about functional experiential physical reality for my body and my spirit in the moment this time I really love to for you to just kind of briefly outline some things are not necessarily because things out the top of your head where you could just say like at 5 tonight or whatever but you know way antenna count liquid calendar do this gesture whatever anything like that. well I think it’s very important for it has been a very important for me to have to have sort of like a daily practice that I do every morning and then I should have that I’m just a planned and doing for me you know and and and for women and for men definitely for women and dance is is one of the best way to start to open your feminine energy you know it’s it’s it it’s a great way to sort of to get the energy up I mean at the end of the day everything that that I’m doing you know is about increasing our energy is about getting like raising our energy so that we have more energy to email to do what we want to do to most of the people are listening to this are engaged and you know social transformation or activism so even physical exercise if people are in exercising physical exercise anything that is really going to hurt to get your energy up your your body even in shape this is this is important sort of a more mental maybe psychological level two to start to examine just to start to to try and stay in a state of observations you know I exist as I think it’s and might be easier said than done is it comes with practice you know but two try to someone says if you’re watching your thoughts you’re watching your emotions you’re watching what’s going on in your life to try and stay in the state where your observe bank and it allows for this sort of space or the scats of Detachment that allow that that’s allowed for Freedom you know in in store in the way that that you actually that you react in a certain situation so and you know along with this to to examine the deeper sort of roots the root the roots to various situations I think a lot of times you know we can get caught up in the story if you know this person did this or that did that happen and I felt like this and I bet you know whatever it mean to not to sort of break out of this pattern of the stories we have to really get to the routes of what the issues are in a lot of us are carrying around you know deeper a karmic issues block that would carry from childhood that are the roots of a lot of the experiences that we have in our daily lives today especially if we haven’t gone back and heal this or examined this you know this is being tired process of self-transformation it’s healing and when we talked about so do you know this new era of Consciousness that is coming with new paradigm that with that we’re entering into it’s very important that we ourselves are healing the past you know that there was that were there were breaking from the past that were within us you know asking. So that’s possible to sort of embody light and love and an end and some so we can bring in this sort of in-body the new Consciousness bring in the new Consciousness and so I mean just being active about your own healing process your own to the growth process in out so I’m very you know this is this is sort of people feel differently about these things I have a spiritual teacher you know I study with Master’s and Anaya this is for me my past and I think you know it’s it’s it’s a huge huge resource to to go out and seek teachers and see communities of people who are also on you know a spiritual journey it’s it’s because it’s it’s very you know it’s a very it’s a new way of living in a lot of ways we’re not we don’t live in a spiritual society and culture right now so so to sort of open up to a lot of maybe they were the resources that exist in your own community and I’ll and find something that resonates with you one thing I would say is that a lot of times when we talk about spirituality we think that spirituality is meditation and it’s it’s not just meditation and in fact meditation is sometimes the last stage of a very deep spiritual path because it takes a level of deep concentration to to read some of sight some of these higher States and meditation for me I mean a lot of What I Do Is Dance Dynamic meditation these practices about her I said that I said it showed which I can’t really demonstrating over the phone but you know why would you knows I would I would just emphasize I mean art is healing spiritual so so yeah I mean I would I would I would I would I would you know today is is for everybody to come out the most important thing is if you are open and you want transformation and you want changed to open to it and to trust the process and to trust that you you know we’ll find what resonates most with you but you no interest in terms of started the basics I mean it’s it it it it dies at the beginning it it boils down to living a healthy life you know taking care of yourself taking care of your body taking care of your emotional states you know so can you give a brief rundown of I need the first time I think I got really in touch with it on a experiential level not like a very open-minded I’m very one of them out there people that I actually know but for some reason I had like for a long time since elected to do the work to try to connect with the experience of that other truck assist on and it was a having a thing double jointed or not it was like what it means to me or how I can tap into it and you know it was in your Workshop believe in it but the other for the whole point of the movie of you know there’s a lot of religions that are based on beliefs but there’s a lot more don’t it’s not like oh you’re you’re lucky to have a once in a million years once once in a million lifetimes like Vision or something that’s what I like more about the sort of holistic open field of spiritual practice and development is it that are okay and that aren’t like it’s okay for a new spiritual experiences for people to write their own and then also youth borrow from traditions and try to instead of traditions in Italy like in your case if you’re able to you know find Masters that you resonate with so that you can start on a path cuz I mean you know you don’t want to be a jack of all trades and master of none and I think that’s like in California like everybody’s like fraction of a thousand different you know that’s a really modern Western sort of the highest states are the ones that put themselves to the most action you know you can find out if you it makes sense and then you show me some pretty quick way to get in touch with that I’m thinking like that Morristown luminous color settle energy field yeah it’s based on the the chakra system in the chakra system is one of the most ancient sources of knowledge of how you know the energy that exists in the universe and how we are connected to it to the energy that exists in the universe we have seven basic chakras and each of these suckers for the vibrate at a different at a different frequency and they’re all connected to to a certain energy in the universe is the root chakra muladhara chakra it’s it’s it’s between the believe the anus and the forgetting that it is basically there are genitals and this is the the chocolate that’s connected to the Earth to stability it’s the color is red it’s considered ones out it’s all so this is where a lot of our health issues facing this chakras right below the belly button this is called Succasunna chakra it’s orange the element is water it’s more of a male chocolate such a girls sexuality of passion at the at the at the belly button this is our solar plexus this is fed to pigs called money put a chocolate that check up fire it some or other personal power these passages about her at The Witcher based you know in martial arts they’re all for the focus on this chakra building confidence power this is our ability to live in the world are ability to make money the people who are ruling the world have very strong money put a chakra the above that is at the Heart Center is on a hot the chakra this is such a higher emotions of love it’s also consider more female chakra at the throat is sore should the chocolate is a chocolate creativity of our inspiration and it’s it’s more of a female chocolate let me have a vaginal check where this is at the third eye this is intuition it’s also Focus concentration the check up higher purposes and then above this we have the crown chakra which is our connection to Universal energy sew in they took the different levels of the chocolate cancer the position is is closed where they’re blocked they’re not functioning and then they’re open which means they are functioning and under emanating which means you can actually give me through through your chakras cuz they’re operating at such a high level by and large amounts of us in society today live at the like the first two chakras you know a lot of the spiritual work that’s out their focus has an opening that’s at the higher chakras but but but lacks in front of the ground it like that the lower chakras and it’s very important to to have to be operating at the lower chakras in order to be living and in the world and functioning in the world so a lot of the work that I do and you know that and also the teachings of the school Universe energy Arts it’s based on first making sure that our lower three chakras are clean their functioning and you know that we have a solid Base by which to work from for higher-level Spiritual Development and it’s always let me know we’re always liked working with all of them too so do you know to 2 to be balancing but it is right now and especially for especially for activist that especially for Spiritual people activating funny porchuck Road that’s what I’m working on a lot and I think that’s the checkered to live in the world to have power to have to make money in a lot of us think that money is bad when money is just really energy and it you know an end with it I mean an ancient civilizations with you to do math and that’s a good for people that shift in this society and culture has become so corrupt you know so to be able to sort of transform the world to really transform the culture of of money and and within a lot of us is it sits in his opening up to our own personal power own ability to attract you know situation then and then careers or you no work that that we can live on so this is everything all the practice as a visualization meditation they’re all based on on opening to these chakras having a rigorous schedule of initiations and exercises and things to do, push pushing to the limit so that you can find yourself but I might the path that I’m on is not the spiritual path of you know taking it slow it is definitely when you need to but it’s also very much about raising energy concept of increasing our energy that I were able to do more in the world that were able to be more highly effective but at the same time we’re in alignment with the highest good with ourselves in a with universal energy and the idea is to to build community you notice to build spiritual communities and it’s the school’s very well-established in Russia they have you know they have thriving communities of all throughout Russian and South America and Europe but to start to build you know this this Consciousness in a sustainable way in El Sol so in a way that it is it is in a holiday and really seeing results in your daily life and it’s you know it’s it’s work to Spiritual Development personal personal growth it’s work you know and it does take willpower and and should have disciplined action to do it that doesn’t mean like I don’t want to give the conception that you don’t have personal power and it because it’s all driven by yourself by your own sort of willpower you know that you you you get what you want what you are what you want to put into it and it’s always a self-driven process and it’s not based on Doctrine or Siri it’s always sort of operating in the Universal thanks you know so it’s always changing and Dynamics with sometimes drives me crazy when we have when we organize something like two days before you know two weeks before something but it’s it’s it’s a beautiful process yeah it does look like the Exxon Valdez oil spill and just like thinking of that the spiritual oil spill in the last several thousand years of patriarchy and it ain’t no expansion of Empires and weapons technology horrible things that had spilled site toxic horrible toxic violin the karmic ocean of our Collective human existence on this planet and night you know it’s easy I think for people to seems easy for people to just continue to live their life in the latter in the rat race and Yelp bear the saloon and just kind of keep moving along and it never that never really knowing what what it was like before you know what we’re an island called a dominator culture before that emerged you know if he has no perception of it out of sight out of mind and it just becomes and there’s a whole story of how we really being not to be a part of a harmonious and peaceful. Is it called you know reconciling this destructive negativity Southwest 2000 years ago extreme destruction and Corruption it just seems like I believe in the idea of progress linear progress so that while we started out as primitive Savages and we’re only you know we’ve gone through some dark times but we’re only getting better but become more alienated for myself and for my community through more devices and more interfaces that are totally artificial and antithetical I mean I think I definitely do know the internet spiritual communities to find each other in Tukwila link for the inlet in a competition the Ecology of competing ideas like we have we now if if if we can sell something better to people so then the system sell a product to their material appetite then we can really think do this massive cleanup jobs of Karma and do this massive play crafted like you said like a lot of the reason that we need to be Warriors in the you know I’m going to put the ice I’ve heard that word in the end I’m I’m putting I’m saying it in a conversation out idea of becoming more using spiritual power and power a lawyer for the past to be able to do this work of cleaning ourselves and cleaning the planet and cleaning our values that really like you know materialistic values it’s really important that we we do like Master the stuff and and and really apply the time to ability spiritual communities in spiritual culture so that we can opportunity to what do you think about starting to wake up. I think it’s the cool thing about to come out of the coma of consumerism of the responsibility to participate in not just stopping things that actually healing things and doing that like literally on all levels to know what do I think about that process yeah I mean just the idea we haven’t talked to you much about like that Karma and the ice that idea of it but you know the spiritual this Collective karmic not or like why should people get spiritual just so they can you know cuz a lot of people are selling that angle you know but have a better more fulfilling personal life vs. the people start the grass that scented like yeah I am I need to take responsibility for like the last several shutting down either so you know if it’s such a cutie ask and but the more Synergy we create together on these in a spiritual community I have a rapid impact female quickly I mean I I think we’re approaching a time where we are changing as a resolving as you know a race or as a species where it will require healing our past or passed our individual paths and also of you know of of the of the world today I mean that’s the thing is once you want want it does go down the path has appealing and and transforming and does go down the path of having healthy relationships and more success and you know an dentist in her happiness it’s a natural process that you want to give that that you want to do you want to have other people live in this and it’s it’s kind of death it’s almost like Maslow’s hierarchy of needs and self-actualization you want to start getting back it’s just a natural process the reason that we don’t have that right now you know the reason you can see this clearly in like it with all of the stuff that came out about George Bush’s daddy complex when was carrying so much baggage so much you know pain within ourselves then this manifests in what we protect in a world so and this is also why a lot of people don’t want to open up to it you know don’t want to go down the path so so really too I mean it’s completely it’s very connected to enter into this new era to enter into a new era of Peace of love will require that we are healing our past to embody in for the greatest level of peace and love within ourselves so that we are creating we want to see an end when we were us when we’re talking about stealing I mean this does going to take it we we heal our family, we go back in two generations and he’ll you know and break out of the cycle that is that has been carried over from our parents from our grandparents and really start to break even come into a new way of existence you know this is the sort of deep healing that happens by Ice it’s kind of like I asked you feel it do you feel the changes that are happening to feel the shift in Consciousness with new energies coming cuz a lot of people feel it a lot of women feel the rise of the visit of the divine feminine it’s it’s something just that should resonating with people because it’s how the Earth and the energy of the earth is Shifting because who knows male energy has become is it and it’s not specific to manage mail energy within men and women has has reached its point that they can’t go any further and so naturally to rebalance we have you know the feminine energy that is coming back and we feel the Swiss ourselves cuz we’re connected to the universe you know and then we’re a part of bringing this back to the universe so so it’s so sudden I disable just become harder and harder and you’ll see it when people don’t commit to their own personal healing and fur it’s going to become harder and harder to exist in this world because because the world is changing because the energy of the earth is changing the energy of the universe is changing it’s getting it’s it’s it’s it’s getting it’s increasing basically which is why I threw you know the spiritual practice we’re increasing our energy to be able to be in alignment with this and is and is part of that it requires it requires you know examining and healing our karmic blocks and and everything that we carry from childhood and NBN before so sore families the beginning think you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show indigenous sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Township Park. 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This is the first podcast episode, I thought it would be nice to share a recap discussion I had with the woman with whom I shared my kundalini virginity several years ago. We talk about experiencing the chakras, multiple orgasms, ecstatic trance dance, kundalini energy and more.
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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved this is the township on podcast thank you for joining me this is the first episode and I decided it would be fun to start with the old discussion I had with a one of my most beloved dear true love Partners when we both shared our Kundalini virginity with each other and had an amazing multi-orgasmic evening together that was so mind-blowing we had to make an audio recording to archives how amazing it was so I’m sharing it with you hope you enjoy it I apologize for the sound quality of the original recording and I put in some sort of phone mellow mild Loops in the background to help smooth that out so hope you enjoy it and I will be publishing more soon thank you and now it’s stiff the intention was that I wanted to be able to know where we were together with our relationship was together and where is it where was going so I wanted to see a path of what where we were going in the future weather that the two main duty clothes stand and low emission weather that was to be friends or it to Nina’s stuff different different area of options that we could have pursued and so and I just wanted to come and see you at a light and there is no wrong answer like everything was okay everything was welcomed I felt very open to what that would be so that was my intention just had a vision of what what was to happen for us. And I agreed and shared the intention tell little bit of smudging with sage and began the first tantric exercise the Press massage which involves slow gentle circular cupping kept circular motions with the The Giver sitting behind the receiver with the receiver laying laying into them text + the goal is to saturate the goal of the giver is to provide a very nurturing comforting like Nest to fall into into release tension in 2 in before we comfortable to allow the rest massage to open the shirt with the heart chakra and really begin just opening up that the center of female store energy and I just learned the other day which is seems obvious but it was well put that women hold a lot of energy and their heart and manhole butter energy and the generals and that can either be you know frustrated heartbreak energy or frustrated sexy blue ball sexual desire energy but I definitely work can be what whatever whatever the state of that energy is definitely true that that’s how it seems to work so it makes sense that it’s important to do work to allow that to open up that energy let it flow through the experience and have make sure it’s like turned on and for the mail has to be so it’s not just short-circuited with the immediate ejaculation pain minimal contact with stimulation has to be woken up and consciously circulated before are two really good to flow properly so anyway that you want to Skype I was when we first started I think I felt slightly awkward just a little bit because I I wasn’t I don’t know what to expect as far as like my heart chakra opening up cuz I felt like it would kind of like us this might sound really coffee was like a rusty cage I saw it kind of started and it actually it I mean it took some time to take some time but eventually it started to lighten up and I started feeling this you know the screen being coming from between my breast and I felt like I started to feel like I was starting to recognize that it was clearing up and then there was a moment where I mean cuz we’ve been doing this for some time and you stopped and you said you would you like to set up now and I thought about it for a second and it was premature and I told you that I was just dumb I felt like it was just starting to work but it was really need to feel where we’re at when you stopped where it where I can assess the you know how I was feeling at that moment and compare it to where I was when I started and then and then we started again and I kind of Nina was able to kind of like playing with that a little bit to feel where the range was I could feel it like regrets a little bit when you stop and then when you started again you know I started to be able to open up again and and just kept going with opening it up and then the next step led to it just continuously like for the rest of night it wasn’t even an issue to try to make sure that my heart chakra went up in my heart was open to you it was it was open for the rest of the night full on so that was my experience with the technique I felt hurry fully present I never felt his prison ever in my life I got really write down the full attention and awareness into the moment into the into the body into our bodies and our shared energy field and that centering technique me think about what I’d the work I have been doing with them Rota and her 10 TruGlo meditation meetups that we were doing over the last over several times or last over the over the year I kept it was it was all closed totally not explicitly sexual activity of any kind just meditation employee from playing certain dimensions of tantric discipline is like root locks in DC pumping and energy incorporating awareness of genital energy and circulating energy through breast not stuff and just done as compared to normal yoga where you park it doesn’t explicitly incorporate like that form training in one of the things that we would do is your dad’s direct us to be in Lotus position and begin making tiny stir up imagine there being like a the tip of a spoon at the base of our spine you know it’s over chakra and imagine that were stirring our route tracker with this spoon as slowly as possible in circles and like doing that definitely seemed to begin to activate the release of the Kundalini coil and the just that I think the real power that can exercises it just gets the slower you miss slow circles like really kind of act like a vortices to get your all of your attention to flow into the point of now and like you know to have to it’s like focusing on the breath but it’s even more requires more attention than just focusing on the breath if you’re making these perfect revolutions that are like tiny and he’s part of his tiny so I was just thinking about that as it’s doing it I hope it wasn’t I was just moving pretty slowly but just realizing that you’re basic reading like a funnel for your attention so that’s that’s nice but that’s what I was focusing on thinking about that aspect of it and definitely feeling the are being effective at opening and go next week faced each other fully undressed and did the holding cup in the genitals crosswise and pressing against the heart with the met with the other hand cross pies and then having eye contact and you can breathing week turn naturally synchronize their breath Africa unconsciously effortlessly with the flow we were doing we were doing a bit of the curving of the spine as the breath comes up in and out and that was some that’s where is starting to test my fuel light the snapping together and locking in as like the piping that was connecting are chakras and stuff like especially with the heart like I could feel I could feel when the connection was sick not snapped right there wasn’t enough pressure wasn’t in the right place I could feel if your house is fading or flowing sewed in we were at pretty much from this exercise with pre evolved into goddess position intercourse very very slowly very incrementally and very unconsciously just this is writhing together became ultimately this almost effortless Union I think if we would have been on the flat or Surface it would have been if it would have been as if our genitals like sort of squirmed into each other without our manual help but we do have to use some of think maybe you can mainly just getting into a soft so alignment obstructed for that it was I feel like a continuous energy flow and the way that things were shaped was kind of like an infinity sign and so I actually with my mind just kind of I felt like I could grab onto a piece of energy and just follow the whole flow all the way through my body all the way through your body the whole thing about Gina going going up and into my arm going down to my chest and down to my torso and you know it back out through my hand into your genitals and then you having that go up through you and ask for your torso and coming out through your arm and into my genitals and like he was continuous type of I could just traces energy all the way through a circuit and and that was a really those are really great exchange and you’re right let you know when I didn’t have my hand in the right spot you did Eli to go to test it for me I have it in a few where it was supposed to be and it is the amount of pressure and the way that we are breathing made everything even more harmonious and even more everything is closed so well and it actually I mean then yesterday was that the copying and but that was like with an intention of like no not necessarily we’re not we weren’t really trying to stimulate one another at that point you know it’s just a few know without you know intestinal stimulation and is that was mostly by energy work but then we took it to a different step pictures of stimulation so there is like two different steps in that you know and so that was that was intensified and that was it was a great transition into into dinner card for sure see I forgot what we did to you solo masturbation with eye contact and then mutual masturbation with eye contact and and then we we came together in the goddess position and it was I’ve been theorizing that that’s really the way to do it because you know without fail and every individual knows how to turn themselves on with their own hands like so getting getting turned on getting ready for penetration and all that like the men’s getting ready by getting hard in a woman’s getting ready by getting wet there’s no I think because people are conditioned to think that masturbation is bad they they think that it’s only okay for genital touch to happen during sex is by the nobody of a person and if that’s true left to that then really you’re kind of driving blind so you have a solo masturbation warm up looks great and then and then Trading making be going from that directly into a mutual State like I acted like I I realize I’m like man my point of Leverage in my point of like them the electrical feedback loop of like touched to sensation is going to be a fraction of what you’re able to do you know what I mean like geranium freezing over, I don’t know I don’t know where you left off it’s kind of like I don’t know what I don’t know exactly like what pattern you were in or what were them you were in or like what what you were with exact but exact points you had like work yourself up to and another thing I learned recently viscera tantric 3-step is it for for a man there’s no there’s no difficulty in locating the bike center of the orgasmic stimulation are the sensors that stimulation sent but for a woman that’s kind of ambient so it always changes I visualized like one of those electric crystal ball things where you have to put your fingers down in different places every time that those points are going to be different it’s going to be different constellation of female orgasm encompasses a percentage of like every orgasm could be like calculated to have sex percentage of G-spot stimulation in a ratio to clitoral stimulation ratio to heart chakra integration all the soda different count the whole constellation of activated points that are being stimulated in some pattern to a point of where the orgasmic Flow State at 3 shirt or the peak state or whatever it is you ever want beginning to do the you know take over on her genitals with the masturbation with sake I could sense that like well so soon it’s probably really good that you’re starting out like lighting up as much of that apparatus as possible if you because you’re able to follow the Pathways in no control we’re at and everything so and I felt great to be a to have your hand. Me and yeah it was I was like sort of fading in and out of states of hardness I didn’t have anything xiety about it or thoughts about it it seemed like it was kind of dynamically flowing with the experience and not being and it’s you like not even being really necessary when the level of the level of felt like by that time our entire body surface areas were at work were erogenous sounds like that was probably the the most surprising amazing overall experience throughout the night was just the absolute non-genital focus of where the energy was falling and he’ll like just the rocking of our bodies together with creating this like ecstatic Blissful like full body orgasmic State and I can just lie and me and it was so fulfilling that like the genital stimulation I was almost thinking like I’m going to I want to spend you know years working up to like heavy. Trusting in his baby cuz this is already like enough I’m already like heck satiated with just this Lake Placid connected rocking gives me this ability to hold really like strong lock muscular positions without fatigue and without lactic acid build-up if it’s there it’s not perceived unable to like hold these contorted sexual positions and with like all of us superhuman strength and like resilience in the in the position or movement and like that the tight flexing of all my muscles in piss rocking position and making circular mouth movements and stuff it down yeah it was like similar to the kind of overall activation of muscle tone during the powerlock procedure of withholding ejaculation in having multiple male orgasm Supply sipping up the energy even when we were in like the interstates of like maximum hard stimulation in during intercourse for me it’s still never I never got to or near the point inevitability because I was so fully Distributing that that energy throughout my whole body like it and it just it had really I mean I could have pursued that if and I’m like excited to continue to do that but I I felt like I feel like a lot of joy and taking this process incrementally in gradually you are more more than just a I just felt very natural just to the embracing with all this energy embracing energy and Rakim energy leaving lots and lots of possibility for like really wild extreme stimulation to 2 and 4 in what are you nothing about my flaccid penis initially I think that we started off with it which is important for me because I do feel very like lesbian Tendencies like I feel very very by gay and queer you know I feel very queer that’s the best word to use for myself and so is so when we started off at with you know very you know oral and manual stimulation so it was so there was this amazing time and that felt like hours of this type of this type of pleasure and and I experienced the most amazing orgasms I I feel like I had maybe 35 orgasms internally of just maybe more I mean it could have I felt like I was having an orgasm on like an antonym vibration like on an intimate note or something and yeah that was amazing and then after that is when we started to have intercourse with our genitals and you’re absolutely right I mean every every part of my body at that point was so reciprocated but Yeah Yeahs erogenous it was so sensual I I could kiss you for hours and feel really amazing and blessed and connected and sexual and orgasm Athena just just like kissing openings at just kissing I mean it was like it was amazing as kissing you know and so having genital contact at all with a flaccid penis or not cuz it wasn’t like you were and you weren’t south of the whole time you are hard and you would go in and out of these cough sometimes and it was it didn’t matter at all I could keep a we just leave her in this Rhythm where we just were we were in it together and recite orgasmic down for 5 hours of being there and so yeah it’s so important not realizing that doing this whole body slow build-up. Malaysian it relieves if I make it makes me kind of just flashing my head like if you were a couple that does not do all this elaborate you know Foundation Building then the female is essentially only reliant on the the hardness of the penis and its ability to hopefully stimulate the inner G-spot side of the war of the wall because that’s the only like it’s like if that’s all you’re if that’s all you’re connected the only point of connection you really have like your hearts are really connected like you’re not really doing much else with your hands baby kissing and stuff but lights are really connected like you’re not really doing much else with your hands maybe you’re kissing and stuff but like you’re both of your Consciousness is focused on just the interaction between the grinding of the mainly it’s it’s yeah I just said progenitor focused and that that orgasm race I don’t like none of that it was as if I need to me it was as if we didn’t even know what orgasms were and that we were just said coming together for the first time dinner in our bodies like without any expectation about what would happen if we just went to follow these currents of energy and so yeah became greedy emphasized like where the stimulation is I who is coming from we just followed wherever it felt like it was just meant to go and the real release of anxiety for four typical masculinity to be able to own know that you’re being Justice is stimulating through hard space and touch and caresses and you know that still going back to the McConnell Angus action I was very creating a realm of where all that exists is this this vaginal Amphitheater in this oral answer Theon it would be no synchronizing them in the fingers and the G-Spot and felt like I was in create an entire Cosmos out of any any any anything you want to look at a flower you know you know yet the wall with the fur whatever catches your fancy huh and really allows you to transcend the monkey mind I mean it’s the ultimate it is you know there’s so much debate and controversy in the Psychedelic community in in in in the spiritual Yogi tradition community and Alan Watts talks about it and Timothy Leary and everybody knows it’s like it’s not a short path to Enlightenment it’s not it’s a very very difficult arduous today demanding you know technique for ecstasy and Enlightenment and accessing the Divine and whatnot one thing at one thing it definitely does seem to do very easily is psych allow you to allow an individual to transcend the trout stream and it’s not scream as what breaks up here concentration your focus on what you’re doing so that’s why people love rock climbing playing music writing or painting always things you’re in that flow State and the monkey mind in the thought stream is assertive you like break out of that of the gravitational field of that mind that part of the mind and you’re able to orbit getting breakthrough and just orbit effortlessly and nfnf rear mental space so that was that was great I was able to tell me I-55 it when we were in our our least energized and most mechanical date you know when we live together I would be problem solving in my mind as during family couldn’t make it seem like okay I can I can multitask are all right cool so nice to be able to solve this problem and solve that problem and meanwhile mechanical yes I’m stimulating you and you’re you’re getting candy 6 this is it was called and I didn’t really understand at that point my Evolution what wasn’t necessarily 100% feeling about that right now I do it one more point about that being able to fully immerse myself into the cosmos if it’s just that interaction of organs visualizing myself as having that that flicking fast speed of an insect like sucking nectarine out from flower I could be here something like when you see him under you know microservice seem like super fast cameras they have nice you like this the speed at which there electrical unit Vector apparatus is able to move and likes it just this it’s like 6 so exquisitely program the way that they move in so I was just channeling at going with that in like you know trying to be a beautiful the dragonfly feeling sickly cunnilingus give her and I thought of the worst to be annoyed because it’s like I’ve always felt that the pain was a yeah nothing can transcend the power of the sybian but it was I mean actually wasn’t I mean I don’t know a lot of people a lot of women have disagreed with me but I didn’t I didn’t really enjoy what I remember feeling like a trip to think that you know and I know she is mechanical as a mechanical machine I ever feeling I don’t I think it took me a long time to have an orgasm I think I felt kind of uncomfortable on it and I just yeah I wasn’t I wasn’t feeling it eventually I did I mean as a friend of mine but it’s not like my best friend you know I’m so so yeah but with with this experience it transcended like any type of city and experience I’ve ever had and it was of course a lot more intimate and because like I was such an a climactic build up a plate and sexuality ayatan sensuality every little tiny touch Every Little Kiss every little bit don’t like the shoulders of my body of the top of my head like everywhere where my normally not be such like in essential places to touch like oh you touch a woman’s shoulders are they going to make her orgasm probably probably not but it’s about I was I was definitely there in that state where that was the case so having that that’s only something that could happen with the heart connection and a human penis or a human mouth or human hand like compete with the sybian both of them run on electrical energy both of them have mechanical moving car what what is it that makes the human fail and it’s like it’s it’s the mental blockage it’s the fatigue I was able to Lake Focus energy focus on creating patterns and then just execute them almost infinitely like it I hit it felt like I felt like I could have gone forever that was an important piece and then I guess maybe the next thing is I would like to mention to the evolution of the music which felt very well I often find it on setting up a playlist before I seems to be some sort of guidance system in some sort of intelligence guidance that’s happening because I felt like it was very choreographed The unfolding of experience who started out with the Blade Runner soundtrack which is stupor we started out with a couple of psytrance tunes and then it went in and then we began like the rituals really with them Blade Runner which is super ambient cyberpunk futuristic stuff actually brought us down into that Kai downtempo Rhythm and then when we started to does the time of a certain age to get into intercourse the theater of tragedy stuff came on which definitely gave us that rocking power cord trusting action in and then I was very sitting so that the choreography later when we switch positions for the well I forget to the Kama Sutra name for it but it’s the my my favorite position for my stimulation my penile stimulation and my visual and sort of hard stimulation I like to be on I like for a woman to lay on her stomach and for me to be on her back and I can I can stand up on my on my arms to see my favorite part of body booty and I can lay back down and have our bodies be like fully connected from head to toe and also the this the mechanics of the interaction between the penis in the vagina at that angle is conducive to maximum G-spot stimulation and it itches and deeper North Pole penetration and so I was loving that and then it went into my favorite psychedelic death metal band from the early 90s which is the best scenic which is all about Transcendent our songs are about Hindu philosophy and Stefan time to work going on I was definitely really feeling the that magical just infinite they have amazing the album cover to is this a beautiful like Dragon dragonfly sort of cosmic being and I was definitely feeling that the hyperspace Mastiff infinite design and beauty of like being in the music and the section out of body Flow State with these beautiful forms I felt like we were sort of dancing in the ocean of Pisa Americana for me to visual this like this against ocean of dragonflies mixed with jelly fishes or something and cuz my friends did they say about 3 a.m. get it from behind damn that that was busted for at lasted for a very long time I had a lot of internal orgasms and then I had one clitoral orgasm and usually after I have a clitoral orgasm unlike I need a break I can use a little you know I need some time to kind of figure from that I’m very rarely do I keep going I had no problem with keeping them going after that at all I was just then it was just constant random the music was important like the music so I felt like it was a Master of Ceremonies and then there is like this year as a guiding force of as how our energy was going to be exchanged between another and also Play La Vie getting lost an eternity and just flying around soaring for hyperspace together wonderful yeah definitely comes like that movie The Lawnmower Man where they show like the Blissful part of their Union was great I definitely was traumatized by the then more predatory part which was indicated by the assholw in the military experiment switching the formulas so that Joe would have the evil aggressor Dominator monkey alpha male thing going on but I know whoever whoever designed that in the end of Terrence Howard says the fucking if your programmers of the fucking freak to hair down there a stoat path ahead hippie sit you’ll go through all that stuff then so whoever whoever made that movie really I think had some sense of what it’s like to be in that was hyperspace that they were to take in cyberspace here picking her space Cosmic oceans fluttering and then let’s the music the way is Phoenix music is it’s like so filled with like these Vistas you know you get the music takes you to the peak of a mountain that shows you like the Grandview the smelly and then takes you under water and takes you into the clouds and stuff and I like that psytrance is very well designed to do that as well so yeah I was myself my it was the quality of a continuous like Flow State of orgasm it was and I have been I’ve been working on this and doing this I pretty much stopped ejaculating I stop having a desire to ejaculate like come when I masterbate I masturbate engine hold the the power lock you know and just plateau and plateau and plateau and it seem to all be pointing towards this this experience going to like it I kind of feel like I’ve been in training in 04 and I have been very very isolated in my practice and feel like it’s this has been like my black belt come I wasn’t pursuing heavy genital stimulation for myself I was just trying to work with and if we went in that position I was able to absolutely very hard all the time and very strong and Pole but totally not victim to oh my God I have to stop moving every second I was able to just continue to move for fucking hours it seemed like without any concept of time without any without any anxiety or fear or desperation about becoming an over-stimulated and ejaculating and now that it was the most Liberation from that and that’s what I’ve experienced and sex every every single time I’ve ever had sex with like holding back the pleasure because it’s just going to blow your circuit and pissed allowed that to be totally transcended yeah it was great and I say to that this whole since I’ve been getting into this stuff since I’ve been getting into Tantra and like you know I was like I want to I want to achieve something was not to push my limits and see how much the Malaysian I could handle and like really myself become the I wanted to give so I wanted to get you I realized I wanted to focus all my energy on on really your your pleasure is stimulation so that I could know that it was possible for you to have Orca cheese Pike for gas me close States Steve satiation spiritually energetic reading all the same like didn’t feel the need to let go through another 50 conditions or whatever and totally could have just didn’t seem necessary and cinegrand other work to do and that’s about when it could be a music loop back to the beginning in the beside Giants game on again and that played to RN getting up and boogie and down to some psytrance for a couple hours it’s just like that was the ultimate fulfillment for me because I feel like I knew I feel like man I can be able to share this love this experience I know the songs really well so for me that energetic choreography was like already fully there so I got to be to leave the dance and ride the emotional cocktail the emotional Pharmacy that was time with the music and some songs were really joyous and Bliss colon bring loving and some of them work getting into the darker intensity of the struggle on the mission and Mike nights definitely use the opportunity to put us together into different configurations that we’re going to maximize the bonding bonding and feeling of synergies in also we saw the ice introduced you to my Division I had last time which was like seeing myself in the wall and it’s like kind of headrest shamanic otherworldly state with my attention focusing at a point in the middle of the room sort of and I set you down once you can see that that where I where I was and see the focal point of my attention in that friend that figure on the wall I set you down on me love you down into the position that I had seen you in division last time that’s where you appeared to me and all of the room conspired to biggest bubble point of you being right there so magically you know I could play the song that was playing during that time my eye when I said I want to play our song and this was this song that is so cute in that Vision so I played it and you were in position and then totally unconsciously I wasn’t thinking of doing this at all but unconsciously I felt my hand vibrate with this very thick powerful energy and start to move in like Helix pipe spirals up your spine and I was like all right this is the energy for sure like and I have it in my hands like I’m sculpting it and writing it and bring it up is fine and a person heart and then we continue to dance with it and bring it up higher and higher chakras and to come together into long it’s a funny man and I’m weak at 3 after after that some really intense energy work there we just continue to have fun dancing and listen to pee more songs in it’s really thrilled to just be able to restaurant in dancing and dancing through the night for a couple hours and then Rebecca zamolo musically down and crashed out and just remain glowing when is kneeling on the floor and then head over there and I looked and he was right. and I and I and I V E faces in a while and so I guess I guess I see you and you said okay well you started like really think they actually put his hands on me and I could feel where he was like one hand was on one side of my torso and when hand is on my back side and and I could just kind of feel his energy coming through me and and he was kind of moving my body around and it was like I my body knew exactly how to respond their lives like this amazing dance between him and I of energy of ya built driving up a Kundalini feeling just dumb feeling so there any type of like amazing bumping swaying rhythmic kind of motions going gone to help my energy raise up and up and it was it was really beautiful and it was really need about it was that I felt like a how almost like professional like you know I’ll be there just like you know there was like this kind of like we’re playing a piano Lakeland cannot lie can I play I play that instrument is like knowing the notes exactly by heart at least you know it was too sick to sort of like playing off one another’s bodies were we knew exactly what how to move and what to do and if that was what was really fascinating to me not having a moment of hesitation or questioning but just really kind of like something off of each other in and that way and so I ended up really enjoying myself with the music and you know I felt like I did called back for a bit but then towards the end 2 hours that is definitely dancing to trance music hello I was dancing to time I felt good about that and maybe it’ll make me look at it like cats music a little different from here on the bus I’m not really sure I guess we’ll have to wait and see if it but I feel pretty good about it right now yeah yeah it was really good so much of our relationship when we live together was like this total misalignment of energy like we were able to get to really when we really flow together in sober sex and drunk sex and sleepy sex and you know we have is potential to really stink up and to really be achieved that to read degree like in our in our sexual practice in our holding each other sleeping together eating together being very close and very compatible but often in daily life we’ve had a lot of friction in a lot of inability to flow together into B12 absorbed the impact of like the fucking random crazy stuff that happens out in the world and to flow with it together and I think I hope that this experience helps this maintain that Dynamic flowing alignment that so often breaks us apart and put this into our separate Minds in our separate egos when we’re encountering you know the hustle and bustle so I think this will definitely nourished and energized the chakras and give us the strength to carry on and keep fighting for what we’re fighting for and then magically manifest in her Blissful abundant 10 eco-park farming future thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and if you want to podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please 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