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Mike Stabile with FSC Logo

If You Like Porn You’ll Love the Free Speech Coalition with Mike Stabile TPP287


In this episode I’m joined by Mike Stabile of the Free Speech Coalition for an exploration of his personal journey into the adult industry, the history and mission of the FSC, and his role in helping to validate and destigmatize the adult entertainment industry

About Mike:

Director of Communications

Pronouns: He / Him / His
Mike Stabile is a journalist and documentary filmmaker who has written about and advocated for sex workers and sexual speech for over a decade. His work has been published in a wide range of publications, including the Daily Beast, Salon, Buzzfeed, Playboy and the New York Times. Seed Money, his documentary on pornographer philanthropist Chuck Holmes was named one of the Best Documentaries of 2015 by The Advocate.

Stabile founded Polari Media to help non-traditional communities and businesses better communicate with a mainstream audience. He has handled communications for the Free Speech Coalition since 2013.



My Non Verbatim Show Notes


thanks for being a member, supporter,

really important organization, adult industry as we know it would not be in existence if not for fsc and other free speech advocates

personal journey, started 2 decades ago

journalist, editor in SF, freelance in NY, moved back to SF, early 2000s,

internet taking off in regard to adult

freelance work for adult companies, coming online

fascinated by industry/culture

gay man, positive relationship with porn, sexuality in general,

gay community, different relationship with adult content, less shame, seen as part of healthy sexuality, compontent, rather than something you have to fight, it’s a tool in the tool box

took to the industry, met people really smart, doing interesting things

lot of room for creativity

worked at alt weeklies,

seemed like this was a new frontier

both money and will to try to do new things

community based in SF at that time, much of gay porn world based in SF, not the case necessarily today

a lot going on, working with naked sword

going on sets teaching self how to film behind the scenes content

invited by studios, go in, film things they could put on dvds, or websites, bonus content

met a lot of interesting directors, performers

started thinking about what I could do with those sort of skills

eventually decided I wanted to make a documentary

not necessarily about adult industry, some of the stories as it had been

worked on documentary about god father of gay porn industry, chuck homes

80s, different from today, arrested put in jail, really basic vanilla content,

depending on locality, how bad they wanted you, shut down your business, federal prison 3 or more years

early …people didn’t want to be photographed, didn’t want to be seen, everything was underground, sell out back of cars, cloak and dagger

government such a hostile force

reagan admin, meese commission, didn’t like it, series of crackdowns

become the beginning of the free speech coalition

needed time to work on documentary, needed time, money

wrote for new york times, buzzfeed, salon, wasn’t enough to survive

started freelancing, got called into kink.com

they were having some issues, needed somebody to help them with media, at the time getting a lot of attention not all of it positive

they needed somebody who could help

I know industry, the world, other side of media

disconnected, people aren’t understanding what you’re doing

took them on

from there, recommended to FSC

head of kink recommended I started working with them

work with a number of other companies as well

indy films, sex tec, sex educators,

pro bono work with sex workers

help better communicate their story to a mainstream world, to a civilian world

really fascinating, myths people have about the industry

longer I’m in it, almost 2 decades now,

how inventive resourceful, smart people in industry are

came from a bit of a carny family NJ

affinity for liminal entertainment industry

really funny ,feels like home, thought would be detour, might be where I was meant to be

with FSC about 7 years, worked with them on prop 60 campaign, fight against mandatory condoms,

organization, got start in late 80s early 90s, about 30 years old, it arose when after a series of vice raids in los angeles, coming out of the 80s where you had meese commission shutting people down, fbi shutting people down based on recommendations

originally legal defense fund

if somebody was busted, lapd raided your offices, fbi agent in conservative area like alabama ordered your vhs tape, it wasn’t just a criminal conviction you had to face, it was gonna drain your business and drain your money

anti porn forces really knew

order something like, vhs in alabama, in utah, in another conservative location, boom, they would go after you for selling obscene materials across state lines

wouldn’t even be able to get conviction, but having to fight 3 different criminal cases in federal court or even a raid at your studio, incredibly draining, easy way to put people out of business

federal govt trying to put people out of business

take a big distributor/producer, really make an example out of them

people really scared

originally FSC defense fund

fight and not go out of business

evolved into advocacy organization in mid 90s

CA state govt decided to tax adult content, something like 25%

unconstitutional, singling out specific type of speech

probably going to pass

fsc shifted gears, going to sacramento, lobbying, figuring out how to work within this system, was able to defeat it

TP: astronomical tax, argument to use for enforcement

MS: predates me, money going to go something like domestic abuse victims, sexual assault victims, or sex trafficking, still seeing this today, legislation proposed, most recent, put a filter on all computers sold in south carolina, block adult content, if you want it removed you have to pay state $20 for them to remove it, really bad legislation, most doesn’t go very far, passionate ideology, hates porn, say gonna take money fight, sex trafficking, sexual assault, something they thing porn causes

way to get money, another way for them to link it to something they believe is one of the ills caused by porn

number of battles, ongoing battles to this day

famous battles, supreme court, law passed, you can’t have any representation of somebody under age on your site, should have anything that looks like CP, should have any cartoons

legislation, incredibly broad, somebody in pig tales, site called barely legal, are they going to use this law to go after me, are they going to then start going through films and say you know what, this person may be of age, it was criminalizing, something ….gives appearance they may not be 18, subjective thing to say

unconstitutional, isn’t a crime,

big battles fought, early 2000s, fight over documents

broadest view, its become harder and harder to get obscenity convictions

so much content online,

because obscenity test, supreme court uses, 3 part test,


80s and 90s, vhs tape small town in utah, trial in utah say to jury, does this violate your community standards

internet, community standards incredibly broad

how do you say this violates community standards, people passing around most obscene things on tumblr, twitter

fsc after advent of internet, byzantine regulatory battles

backdoor ways they could try to do censorship

record keeping provision, still in effect, we were able to limit it in various ways

in order for you to post something on website, whether you created it or not, sexually explicit or nude, copy of personal id, model release, separate room in home or office, cross filed all these different ways

2257 regulations, update

goal was to make sure that a person like you couldn’t post a nude photo from your site from somewhere else, they would have to have records for all these things

affiliate site, merely showed a photo

it wasn’t about whether or not these people were of age or not, that was held by primary producer, it was really about not allowing these to travel

backdoor ways of limiting the adult industry’s ability to work freely

really want to make it harder and harder and can’t do it through courts, byzantine ways make life more difficult, too costly

if you violate one thing, or mess up one thing you can go to federal prison


in california, regulations that will say you need to adhere to same standards as any other work places, can’t have close physical contact, mask and googles in contact with bodily fluids, don’t apply to mixed martial arts/sports, blood and sweat flying

apply to adult industries, ah ha you have to do these things or we’re gonna fine you, possibly put you in jail

fsc, been really active, industry representative, in those meetings, going to capital, meeting with legislators

helping them understand, think our industry is much different

most people outside, think, its a bunch of drugged up people and sex slaves, idea it’s a bad industry

even if this law is a little bit unconstitutional, targeting them specifically, we’re doing it for their own good

save these women, stop the people becoming addicted to porn, whatever they’re going to use

fsc, what I try to do at my position, destigmatize, help people understand what we are and aren’t

have our own best practices

on set, it’s not a free for all

tested every 14 days

checklist gonna do this or not gonna do this

regulations, best practices

change the way people see us

at least in california

TP: wasn’t first condom law, the AHF, 2016, I remember marching in the streets of hollywood

MS: I was at that march as well, inspiring, all these sex workers marching in street fighting against idea that they need someone to save them

workers come out, you know nothing about my work, we didn’t ask for your help, if you want to know I can tell you but it’s not this

TP: just did interview with Corey Silverstein, struggles on horizon, current now,

thoughts on officially defunct, attempt to create a state-wide food handlers permit of adult, IEAU, fsc position on whether or not that was furthering hope, more sophisticated dialog

MS: still face things all the time, most recently, not just people coming from outside industry with ideas, sometimes people within industry, had experience, want to fix that, in general we welcome that

dialog about how we can make sets safer, empower performers,

don’t think anyone who works in the industry says its perfect

fsc, try to make it better, inform legislation that comes through, make it so it doesn’t do more harm

head of IEAU, small group of performers

one of women involved with that, put fort h proposal, people need training when they come into industry

wonderful in some ways ambition, want people to have as much information as possible, be empowered

unfortunately you get to a legislator, they don’t know much about the industry

formalize as a bill, put it through assembly, issue was it amounted to having to have a license

government shouldn’t be able to restrict

speech is different…we have a constitutional amendment

different that opening a hamburger stand/factory

government can’t restrain us from speaking unnecessarily

I think motivation in the right place, often people don’t think through consequences, as a result, license to speak

once you did these things you’d be able to operate as an adult performer, be essentially licensed

fsc, no this is a limit on a specific type of speech, we don’t ask this of reporters, politicians…religion

we had to call that legislator, go in and having meetings, talk about why this is a problem, arguments fall apart

didn’t even mean that, we understand, that’s why we’re hear

something ….can have wide ranging implications, we are a community already heavily stigmatized and criminalized

already ways in which members of adult community are discriminated against, stigmatized socially, want to make sure there aren’t any laws going on the books that can be used against us broadly

if you want to go after something that’s illegal, or actually a crime that’s fine, but don’t put something on the books that can be used broadly, it will be haunt us

adult industry canary in coal mine when it comes to free speech

us confernce of bishops recently called for pornography to be banned, evil, harmful, all these things not supported by science, but by morality

has to be somebody there that says no this is wrong and this is why

here’s where you’re argument fails

if you shut down pornography, what comes next, what qualifies as pornography

those are the discussions that fsc…built to have

TP: in my estimation, upgrade my thinking if necessary, might be naive, been in adult films for quite a while, attempted to get really legit about it in last 5 years, in that journey, opportunity to have internal industry self policing debates, progress, improving conditions on set, solidarity among different actors in the ecosystem, xbiz show, gripe, abused, mistreated, go to get some rally troops, stir up some discussion, better place than that

MS: xbiz, avn shows, couple of others, tradde shows, here in vegas, or europe, a lot of it, the value of those often is, connected with people in industry, also communicate best practices on sets

kink.com done a lot of work, how to better structure sets, performers feel empowered to speak up, structural problems

trade shows often good place for people to have discussions, best practices, performers, issues that affect them

social media, twitter, really revolution, adult performers, sex workers more broadly, seen a number of times in past, somebody has bad experience on set, consent violated, or scene was harder than expected, director didn’t listen, I am upset, community of performers on twitter who will share and retween, gains steam, performers on twitter have access to journalists in a way that they never did before

I think that, twitter works really well for journalists, works really well for adult performers, political groups as well have really thrived

other performers retweet, tag fsc, journalists will pick it up

issues, need multi level response

consent violation on set, wanted to stop, when you talk to law enforcement…doesn’t do anything, you’re a porn star this is want you signed up for, too messy, walk away

find out whats’ going on, what their resources are, don’t often have law enforcement willing to be involved, may be put in touch with crisis center, understand, legal rights, different resources legally, put in touch with performer groups, maybe reaching out to producer and say hey what the hell happened here

we’re a trade organization, advocacy organization, resource for performers and producers, whether somebody had a bad time on set, or somebody who’s bank shut them out

TP: real time court of public opinion

covid era, paradigm, may not have in person conferences to look forward to, relying on these platforms even more key

I know there was a moment not too long ago, scare of twitter wiping out adult related profiles

MS: with big tech, it’s hard to tell what’s going on, are people being shadow banned, profiles don’t come up when you search for them or is something going to happen

a lot of times a tech platform, new terms of service, TOS, sometimes, might say you can’t do anything obscene, sexually explicit, or violent, they can update the TOS put in new restrictions, might not operate on it immediately, might be something where they want the ability to go after you later, might be big crack down, might shut down your account, make you agree before hand

we don’t really know

used to be battle for free speech was fought in the courts, whether or not legal to show this movie at movie theater or sell this magazine

but the public square is internet, controlled by a few major corporation for the most part, facebook , twitter, instagram I guess is facebook, small number of places, reddit

not government by first amendment, governed by tos, no recourse, if twitter takes you off you can’t sue them and say we’re gonna go to the supreme court the way you could if a local judge shut down your movie, you had a recourse for appeal, there’s no appeal with social media, private company they can take you off if they want, appears to be an open public square, but you don’t have that same control

sort of where, we didn’t necessarily see anything happened, don’t have access to their back end,

account got shut down, shadow banned, something like that, we have no idea what’s going on, it’s a big black box,

really guess work, nothing catastrophic happened, this fall,

TP: selective enforcement,

spirit of fsc going back so many decades now, having been iterating through so many different chapters of new tech, are there people on your staff that are really keyed into web 3, blockchain, uncensorable rails of content and transactions, a lot of adult industry early adopters of bitcoin, but also ethereum smart contracts, platforms hoping to be uncensorable, can’t deplatform users, because it’s all peer-to-peer

original ethos of the internet to begin with, bastardarization of peer to peer open source becoming centralized big data

one of your staff, crypto geek?

MS: small staff, just a handful of us, what we depend on are are members, various committees, board of directors, rotates every two years, people come in, nobody specifically on staff that handles crypto, new platforms, what we have is

adult industry is really well positioned, people in industry, tremendously innovated

we’re working on regulatory/legislative

people in industry building platforms, blockchain, crypto

adult industry, really fertile soil, natural consumers, gonna be there no matter what you try, always gonna be somebody who’s turned on by what your fetish is , how you’re structuring your company

something we don’t do specifically, keep aware in larger industry, what’s happening, understand it in terms of a resource

one thing we’re seeing right now, with alternate platforms, rise of premium social, only fans, just for fans, many vids

alternatives for people who are looking to build a following, but aren’t allowed on instagram, or worried twitters gonna get taken away

legislation not gonna help


not gonna be as big as twitter, but might be a place, should twitter shut down, natural migration

seeing coming in future, seen it with some of social media already, build a better mouse trap

get something that does what we need it today, if they ever do decide to take off adult content, we have a place to go, contingency plan

TP: lots of life rafts being built, awesome, zooming in now impetus for this call, joined zoom meeting, xbiz town hall, fsc rep, survey in email about task force, have you give a sort of, some info on what the task force is doing, some of the ways the covid crisis is affecting adult

MS: industry has been shut down since march 15th, when governor of CA called for non essential businesses to close, FSC went into crisis mode, not just in terms of how do we deal with this as an industry, how do we take care of performers and crew members now not going to be able to work

we are a vulnerable population, a lot of us maybe not connected to families, come from communities we might be exiled from, it takes a certain person to work in this industry, given the discrimination want to make sure, we need to help people get by

industry shut down, production shut down, want to observe, but have to pay rent, have to do underground shoot, or do something unsafe

fundraising mode, raised $150k for performers, crew members struggling under covid, started distributing

turns out , about half performers in industry, doing alright, through crisis, because of premiums, clips, cams, rise in traffic, porn has seen dramatic rise because of shut down, people being locked at home, revenues are up, performers the only ones that can really produces, studios/sets shuttered,

if home alone can make solo content, partnered with someone willing to be on camera, can shoot sex scenes

studios reaching out to couples in quarantine, can you shoot something, we’re running out of content

in some cases performers making more money than they have

not everybody in that position, if if you have a following, already set up,

crew is in worse position, no mainstream jobs, no adult jobs

challenging time for a lot of people

one thing to be stuck at home another thing to lose your income

long term effects of covid crisis, maybe performers are in more control than ever

massive growth in performer produced content

able to make decent or exceptional living performing own content, gives you more choice when studios open up as to what shoots you’re gonna take

if youd on’t have financial incentive to go on sets because you have own income…recurring billing, content make at home, no reason to go on set, unless you want to go on specific set unless fantasy of yours or something that will give a lot of attention

covid reorganize industry in that way

interesting in that regard

regard to sets, discussions we have on task force, geared toward how do we open up and how do we open up safely

industry in some ways is well positioned for this type of discussion we test already every 14 days, protocol for production shut downs, hiv, stis already have these discussions, already talk about going on set, making sure partners are tested, workable precautions

prevent transmission, body fluids, already sanitize sets, use gloves, some cases masks, crew member don’t want to get hit with fluids

ahead of game, most other industries

new challenge, with stis, decent assurance you’re gonna be safe on set, you’re tested, partner tested, everybody tested,

with covid, performer population may be tested, person at grocery store may not be, beach may not be

unlike hiv, fairly long time between contract and transmit, about 14 days, why our testing set up the way it is, with covid, potentially infectious 2 days after contract,

task force, in light of covid, what precautions, what guidelines, how they should shoot, how often they should test, that sort of thing, it has been a bit of a challenge

TP: I hear that, kudos for doing all that hard work, recently listening to podcast, mainstream scientific analysis, look to porn industry they’ve been doing this for a quite a while, at least for stis

Dr. Eric Ding, harvard epidemiologist, health economist, medical digest of news through his twitter feed,

don’t know chance of covid to be transmitted sexually, the male testicles, didn’t know, fun fact, immune from immune system, privileged, cytocine storm, immune system over reacts, can’t get into that part of male anatomy,

imagine the way zoom is blowing up, pass system open sourced so everybody is using it to go to grocery store

crew members into pass, not for stis, similar testing system around it, not just about scene partner,

as intimate as your relationship is going to be with your scene partner, right now no evidence it can be transmitted sexually, might appear in semen, not clear if would be transmitted sexually

for adult industry, what we’re facing, not different from hollywood love scene, same level of transmission

we’ve done a lot to tell other industries, we’ve got something, not sure how it’s gonna apply to covid, can tell you how the protocols are

sports team, grocery store,

haven’t had hiv transmission on pass regulated set since 2004, shoot 100s of thousands of scenes since then

something we know how to do, we can help you with it

TP: hopefully outcome, porn saves the day, people rejoice, have to pay respects

what would be the pitch for my listeners, diverse array, pay dues to support, become member, make donations, best way and why

gonna be a huge economic pressure for people who never considered camming, making content, by financial pressure, flooding into platforms to make new revenue stream

info for newbies?

MS: why you should support industry, we’re the canary in the coal mine, censors come after us before anybody else, regulations, whether adult content producer or not, they’re gonna come after you

go to website, set up small recurring donation, get clued in, newsletter, things like survey, understand going on, performer, producer, fan,

sustain organization, protect your rights

keep you informed as to issues that we face

go to free speech coalition, donation

new, inspire program, created by performers to performers, whether you should have an agent, how the testing system works,

webinar with people success in camming, clips, in premiums, brought 6 together, held webinar, all talk about how they got to where they were,

pros to ams, how do I get started, how often should I update, what’s biggest mistake, hour or so master class, how to get started, what to be weary of

tremendous time to be performer, you have more control than ever, so many platforms to do it, own your content, never used to be able to do

go to website become a member, get an alert when it does go up

follow on twitter, fsc army

dm us, tweet at us

very active on social media

TP: if major influx of people losing jobs, realize they can ethically and legally trade their labor and artisanship in adult industry for a livelihood, critical mass, decrim all sex work

fsc probably near front lines

can of works to open, final prayer final thought

close us out

MS: we are on the front lines of decriminalization, certainly support for sex workers across the board, partnered with various organizations

tremendously creative, really enjoy being a part of it, does feel like family

the more people we get in it the more the stigma decreases, thanks so much for having me

thanks for being a member

TP: thanks so much!

Corey Silverstein pic

Adult Industry Law in the Covid-19 Era and Beyond with Attorney Corey D. Silverstein TPP277


In this episode I’m joined again by leading adult industry attorney Corey D. Silverstein for an exploration of the adult industry legal landscape in the Covid-19 era and beyond

About Corey:

Corey D. Silverstein is the managing and founding member of the Law Offices of Corey D. Silverstein, P.C d/b/a/ Silverstein Legal.  His practice focuses on representing many areas of the law that impact the adult industry.  His clientele includes hosting companies, affiliate programs, content producers, payment processors, website operators, dating websites, webcam sites, traffic brokers, social media websites and performers, just to name a few.  Mr. Silverstein regularly provides legal services related to: age verification and record keeping requirements (18 USC 2257), intellectual property (copyrights and trademarks), the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, the Restore Online Shopper’s Confidence Act (ROSCA), Federal Trade Commission (FTC) compliance, first amendment / free speech, obscenity, corporate law, criminal defense, internet law, domain disputes and various other areas of the law.  Mr. Silverstein is an acclaimed litigator and dispute resolution specialist. His practice also concentrates on complex contracts, business structure, and business formation.  Mr. Silverstein prides himself in providing prompt and aggressive representation tailored to each of his clients’ individual needs.  Mr. Silverstein is regularly featured in adult industry periodicals such as AVN and XBIZ and has been quoted and published in mainstream media including the New York Times, FOX News, MSNBC, the Miami Herald, the Washington Post, the Detroit News and the Associated Press.  Mr. Silverstein is also a regular speaker at conferences throughout the world (United States, Canada, Colombia, Netherlands) and has made countless presentations related to topics and issues that affect the adult industry and online marketplace.  Amongst his numerous professional affiliations, Mr. Silverstein is a member of the First Amendment Lawyers Association (FALA). Myadultattorney.com is a website dedicated to the representation of adult industry clientele. Mr. Silverstein can be reached through Myadultattorney.com or by email at corey@myadultattorney.com. Mr. Silverstein can also be contacted by telephone at 248-290-0655.

My Non Verbatim Show Notes: 

CS: been in adult entertainment industry approx 15 years, law firm dedicated to adult ent, represent clients in more than 13 countries, harder in covid19 era to get with clients, crazy time period, government assistance package, funds used up, sba tapped allotment, provisions in the sba loan apps in essence disqualified certain adult entertainment, lawsuit filed in MI, strip club challenging constitutionality

phone ringing off the hook, issues coming in from all over the place

performers some never been busier, some can’t pay bills

Michelle from FSC, horrendous personal ordeal, suffering, being separated from families, wild right now

TP: dualities of different opportunities, liabilities, emergent properties, even preppers realize they have all these holes in their ship, didn’t factor in

xbiz newsletter, Utah legislation, warning label

CS: utah bill did become law, even though gov didn’t sign

telling sign, gov wanted nothing to do with

conversations with clients, each person needs to consult with own counsel

so poorly written, difficult time finding people to comply, virtually mandates you admit your content may be obscene


if someone does get fined, suspect pretty quick, constitutional lawyer pick up the challenge, unconstitutional

poorly thought out provision, state of utah, substantial religious motivations, shouldn’t surprise you, nothing new, unbinding declaration porn is health crisis

another reminder, always someone out there with an agenda to try to politicize adult entertainment

TP: web application firewall, not possible geo fence state ip ranges,

CS: uk age verification law, not hold, dead

TP: can’t geofence ip ranges for a specific united state, terms and conditions, not allowed to access website if resident of this state, if you do, violating terms, you can’t really enforce that, not using mechanism, does that have any protection

CS: don’t think answer to utah law, is to contract a way out of it, way its written takes presumption all adult content is obscene, have to label site as such, don’t see any way around it, someone will challenge as unconstitutional, wouldn’t take position to try to contractually limit it

there is some technology out there to ban state traffic, acts as admission you believe content obscene

already have federal obscenity test, articulated by us supreme court, as much as utah would like to define obscene content, eliminate adult entertainment as they see it, federal case law differs

TP: clarity on terms, realizing I take for granted they’re gonna think everything is obscene, operating on their terms,

CS: gotta read language very carefully, want you to write statement, adult content harmful to minors, whatever exact language is, utah once again went way to far, silly, nothing more than some politicians…want to run for office often say a lot of things, crack down on this/that, promise part of far right, curb back pornography, very telling, governor wouldn’t sign it

TP: bill in california, would impose dmv style license or food handlers license exam for anyone in adult entertainment activities, cam models, porn shooots, all forms of sex workers, what’s your take on that

CS: ab 2389, scarlet letter provision, state of california, article in xbiz, wrote about this topic, bill that would prohibit adult entertainers/performers unless received certificate of training completing regarding employment rights

originally language said needed valid business license, would have required adult entertainers to go to state of ca, proof took course, fill out application, fee, finger print, state directory of adult entertainers being held by state of ca

possiblyi one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen,

reminded of scarlet letter, young lady who was alleged of adultery, required to run around with giant letter stapled on her

when I see statutes like this come out, who even thinks this stuff up

originally two supporters, one of them dropped out, backlash was massive

quickly amended it, has not become law as of yet, I don’t think it will pass

ca already had wars with adult entertainment industry in the last couple of years, not sure they want to end up in courts with this one, hopeful common sense will make them realize this is just a stupid idea

can understand, state of ca, wants adult entertainment workers educated, don’t see how its their right to mandate education

not a supporter, horrible for industry

for individual rights, think this is a massive step backwards

question true motivation, politicians behind this thing

this bill has not passed

lot of laws…get proposed never become actual laws

TP: interview with several officers several of the high ranking folks at the international entertainment adult union, original source of pressure on legislators to collaborate on crafting the language for this, govt, hammer that only sees nails, boilerplate language and strategy, compelling people to dox themselves, trusting gov to have digital honey pot database, hacker dream come true to exploit, data breech, applicable privacy laws, you’d never want to give them more information than they already have to do their own work to try to collect

spirit of it, opinion, I believe they adult performer advocacy committee has an industry voluntary stamp of approve for their standard of set rights, education or performers, website production house does their training, complies with their list, that’s where you want to go, industry self policing to standards that are worked out between actual stakeholders, not involving gov agencies, conflicts of interest, slow, ineffectual

CS: industry filled with a lot of different trade organizations, tremendous work, amazing results, free speech coalition, woodhull freedom foundation

I wasn’t there, don’t know what was going on behind the scenes, in front…never get the whole story

don’t think this was thought out well

not saying anyone had bad intent, suggesting this wasn’t thought out very well

when it comes to adult entertainment, it’s all about free speech,

rules regulations, certiications, another steop closer that you’re walking on top of people’s first amendment rights, always urge tremendous amount of caution

gov should be talking to trade orgs

listened …more to industries ideas regarding 2257 we wouldn’t be a 15 year court battle, however many years

goes both ways

in this particular case, no doubt…as to what this thing can do, …tramples first amendment

hard time to believe any adult entertainment entrepreneur would support this bill

TP: gov just wants to take money, give an inch take a mile, unlike a lot of other industries, one of the few where regulators aren’t in revolving door with industry

anywhere expect to be collusion/corruption, perverse incentives

CS: big issues, lot of politicians want to talk about it, soap boxes…won’t have telephone conversation, won’t meet with actual sex worker…that’s the problem…heart of fosta/cesta, any sex worker on planet, ask whether done any good, answers gonna be no, 9 times out of 10, nothing new hear,

does it really help, does it change anything on the ground, it doesn’t what’s what we’re seeing with fosta/cesta

brilliant lawyers involved [fosta/cesta] case, successful in court of appeals, message to trial court, sex workers have a legitimate argument, deserve day in court…hoping…more victories

TP: monkey wrentch in gears of court procedings, coronavirus, futurism mode, what do you think prospects are, whore-archy, come together organize, sex worker outreach project, doing fantastic work, could you imagine that this economic collapse/crisis after effects long term could their be an impetus to fight back against prohibition of sex work in general, reverse backlash

I could see a lot of people going into sex work, people who never would have thought about this before, have to do, because its the only thing people are paying for

CS: here’s the thing, simple fact…you can continue to pass ridiculous laws, base them on whatever you want to base them on, fact is, sex workers…not going to stop, fosta/cesta ill conceived

covid19 era, totally different world, people really should be exercising social distancing, limiting contact with other human beings…sex industry probably greatly been affected as well…notion, thought, this is where gov is wrong, that they can just keep passing laws and that’s someone gonna stop it isn’t gonna work, that’s not who you solve problems

other countries throughout the world that have legalized prostitution, that have legalized different forms of sex work that here in the us are illegal…seen crimes against sex workers with proper legalization/protocols, actually much safer

getting into issue, reality, politics, agendas, belief systems not based on fact, religious beliefs or whatever

I don’t see sex work necessarily going away, disappearing, do believe pandemic has hurt that industry very much…responsible people should be social distancing…minimize contact with other human beings…stop the spread of this aweful virus

when this is all over…getting back to normal…don’t think the sex work industry is a gonna skip a beat..

TP: new baby boom, 9 months from the vaccine roll out

CS: pregnancy through the roof, divorce through the roof, people married forever never had to spend this much time together in their lives…now they’re getting to know

TP: internet bandwidth, 5g tin foil hat, people got their netflix, zoom


CS: netflix has admitted, changed policies, limited…people have to make tough decisions to protect their networks, don’t fault them, probably a good thing proactive

TP: if you’re savy and healthy you could really ethically capitalize on new niches of oppportunity, survivors and winners are gonna be the big winners, hopefully not just bailed out fortune 500

crypto, stable coins taking up market share

any thoughts on state of crypto for adult

gonna be stress tested by covid era as well

CS: crypto is and continues to be a long term play, don’t believe crypto will be running the world over night

icos folded up, shit coins, a lot of those fold up and go away

adult crypto continues to be accepted,

if you follow wall street, crypto now accepted, mutual funds, canadian stock market, mainstream legit financial branches accepting crypto, continue to be excellent tool for adult, any adult business needs to consider their future with crypto, have to have as potential option, still believe in it

a lot of junk out there, bad players, but industry has been weeding those out

look at dozens if not hundreds of “coins” that have basically disappeared, that’s not the worst step

crypto will continue to grow in adult space

learn about it, understand, don’t have to be afraid of

old school politicians want you to think crypto is a bad thing

crypto currency, blockchain can be used for so much more

big growth as more people..less intimated by it

bitcoin…still off all time high…tremendous amount of growth potential

TP: proving itself out more and more everyday,

thoughts on libra

CS: I don’t think libra’s gonna work, don’t think you can call it a cryptocurrency

are they using blockchain technology on the backend, yeah, do I consider it a cryptocurrency no

I won’t use it

google plus,

TP: in recycling bin of time

CS: think about how many people who don’t have debit cards, local branch of bank is closed…because covid…crypto currency never closes ever

TP: coins are hygienic as you could ever get

CS: bitcoin article, they use gold coin with b and dollar sign, stop doing that…segment of people that thinks it’s a real thing…no how it works…hopefully people will see past that

TP: earn it act

CS: end of the world!

Longer conversation, probably gonna have to dedicate more of a conversation, lot of history, premise of bill, as of right now…website can benefit from section 230, earn it act wants to do…flip that around…as opposed to automatic section 230 immunity you would have had to “earn it”

problem is…not entirely clear on what exactly companies would have to do to earn it

sets back free speech on internet tremendously

section 230, internet companies cannot be held liable for positing of users, now though…when you change that around, …onus on internet companies to start…monitor/police content…cut at the heart of what section 230 is supposed to do…in terms of freedom of speech

gov…access to encryption, a little new still, no one is completely clear…on what they’re asking for

require encryption but they have the key…terrifying…

act itself needs to be watched very carefully

anyone in IT business, search engine…online store…

need to be very careful about, need to be watching it

companies now fighting it

there’s gonna be a lot of resistance…big companies, facebook, etc. I think they’ll be fighting it hard…but…some will support it

don’t think this is good

another example of attacking free speech on internet, policing content on the internet, don’t think that’s good at all

internet…greatest inventions we’ve made

in this instance…start getting into this position, service providers responsible for content users post, going down that slippery slope

TP: could you imagine there would be a proactive constitutional amendment to explicitly protect strong encryption

CS: constitutional amendment, no

TP: just precedent set?

CS: we have to keep protecting section 230, anybody who attacks section 230 is attacking the IT industry, attacking free speech on the internet

wake up, strongly take position, no we don’t want more holes being cut in section 230

earn it act, highly based on sexual exploitation of minors, that’s fine they’re saying that’s what it’s for, absolutely agree that’s an important issue, the way they’re doing it…like taking a bazuka to eliminate an ant hill

just doesn’t make any sense

gov has to get smarter

age of internet people are smarter

reading, want to know about these laws

years ago gov had it a lot easier to slip things into bills

big believer in free and open internet

TP: thank you so much, covered so much material, invigorating

very reassuring, thank you so much for doing all the work that you do, on behalf of free speech for all, adult entertainers/performers, industry ecosystem

closing thoughts

CS: everybody stay safe, be smart, take care of love ones, make sure you’re doing the best you can in terms of social distancing, each person can do just a little bit to help stop the spread


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Alexandria Foxxcroft

Loving Big in the COVID-19 Era with Alexandria Foxxcroft TPP258


In this episode some joined by my esteemed colleague in mindful preparedness Alexandria Foxxcroft for an exploration of strategies to remain calm, peaceful, and loving amidst the chaos

About Alexandria:

Alexandria is a health educator and proponent of positive sexuality and mindfulness. With her skills and interests combined, she lovingly guides herself and others to deeper, more meaningful levels of pleasure and intimacy while holding space for life’s modern demands. You can find her art, life, and play on: https://www.instagram.com/alexandriafoxxcroft/

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

always a pleasure to collaborate and talk with you

what I’ve been up to since we last chatted on the podcast, I’m not living and performing vegas

volunteer at positive sexuality conference, that’s how we first got to talking

come full circle

as we are facing something completely unprecedented, corona virus, las vegas pretty much all shut down, casinos closed, hotels empty , strip is quiet, many people out of work, staying home, grocery store shelves are empty, some people panicking, upset, other peoples treating it summer break I get to rest, haven’t had a break from work for 5 years

for me, household, partner and I have enough to get us through some time, staying out of public spaces the best as we can, safety practices, staying connected to family, to loved ones, really enhancing my mindfulness practices, more yoga, more water, more baths, indulging in little things, those treats that might not seem all that important, really taking care of myself, stress lowers immune systems, be gentle with myself and others, think about that, everyone is going through this

we’re all experiencing these new stress levels, horizon, that’s not clear, extend a smile, be kind generous, take care of number one

I do really appreciate that being mindful of the media that we consume is very important right now, easy to get swept away, find trusted sources to check in with a couple times a day so you’re informed, don’t let the fear get in the way of your ability to respond with thought and intelligence

stay occupied, attending to our basic pleasure needs, something I am welcoming into my life as well, its a nice time to kind of say, I don’t need to be afraid, I don’t need to shy away from sex work and being an online presence that can show a healthy sexy intelligent spiritual way of holding my own in a sexual manner, being able to support your cam workers and entertain yourself and help them keep food on the table, past couple days been home thinking about ways to make money and keep the public engaged, keep myself engaged, account on chaturbate, played on that a bit last night, new platform for me, so many things that go on with it, mad props to everyone who’s able to do it and have fun with it, will leave that link with you, we’re all stuck in side, it’s nice to have some fun

drop in tune out check in

as you sit there or you’re laying or you’re in a state where you can come to pause, just enjoy that pause, feeling your breath, feeling your body, coming into awareness, just yourself, recognizing that you individual are part of this global universal collective, you person listening are a link in this beautiful web, multicolored, multitextured multipatterned fabric that makes up our entire being, attune to yourself, give yourself that love compassion, that permission to be, to be still, to be tender, to be nervous, happy excited, anxious, loving and loved, however you are, you are allowed to just be present with that, know that whatever is happening within your being, some one else is experiencing that as well, move outside of yourself and offer that love to someone, someone who’s easy to give love to, parent, child, friend, lover, teacher, stranger, offer them love however they are,

gentle quite acknowledgment, I see you, moving on to another, someone who when you think about them, feelings not so easy to touch on, acknowledge them as a human, encountering whatever life experiences they will encounter today, they are part of this beautiful tapistry, they are part of our story, offer them love, acknowledge their existence as part of this whole as we pass others, think about others through our day, acknowledge them as human just as we are, offer them love, peace and compassion, you seeing them will lead us through these dark times

it will help bolster you against anything that comes your way, every individual has a story, their own psychodrama, no need to take it personally, just acknowledge them as human, a link in this chain, take care of yourself let them take care of themselves, just be, be present, give yourself permission to slow down and recognize yourself as this beautiful beam of light, may not feel it but you are it, breath, breath connects us to our source, connecting to source allows us to align, allows to make decisions with more kindness, this is what we need right now, we call you to be your highest self so you can respond intelligently to anything that comes your way, in closing I uplift you I see you, may you feel held and not alone, inhale, exhale to release all doubt and all worry, inhale compassion and peace, namaste

Allie Eve Knox pic

Revolutionizing Adult Industry Payments with Allie Eve Knox of SpankChain TPP251


In this episode I’m joined by Allie Eve Knox, VP of Sales at SpankChain for a exploration of her crypto journey and her role at the illustrious SpankChain crypto company

Allie is a Fetish Performer, Content Creator, VP of Sales at SpankChain

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

allie nox vp sales

super in debt,grad school, camming at night, do it house, didn’t have to sit in traffic


started shooting porn

custom videos, out of bedroom, camming

2017 found spank chain

got in fight with somebody on twitter,

you should hire me, sent resume, i work her now, these are the things i’m gonna do

coming into start up tech space, adult liaison, didn’t know how to deal with my dominatrix character

working with them since ICO

putting out a bunch of pr

we were so strange

aliens in the room

realized, people

weren’t assimilated into tech

did an ico in ico days 2017,

white paper, cam site, crypto only camsite, launched beta april 2018, no privates, no personal chat, site looked really good

beta for a year

discovered, shit hit the fan with crypto, started tanking, people stopped wanting to spend

hard to find user base to part with money

credit card payments brought in more traffic

user account process, get key phrases, all typical crypto stuff

people were really confused by it, constantly losing there stuff

had to completely overhaul the back end

took camsite down, launched few products

hopefully will be bring cam site back up

now first version, model profiles build off of that , where cam site and clip site built on

find favorite model

just put out very first version at AVN

model’s able to get own custom link,

here’s my link pay me through there

links to video content

basically whatever you want

so many benefits in crypto

I’ve had all my accounts shut down, I was violating the rules for selling panties or content

started taking crypto

no one’s gonna protect the adult industry

spankchain, we’re gonna make this for the adult industry

everything’s anonymous, not a thing where I wife is gonna find his credit card purchases

won’t get shut down, low fees

some sites take 50%

credit card processing, we pay taxes

with crypto we just take a 1% fee, .5% for merchants

stable coin, super exciting

really simple cash out process

wills done excellent job of making user experience super easy and intuitive

appreciate community coming together

building a platform models want to use

charge backs, all typical shit

take you’re finances

booty stable coin

really nice to count on,

really nice if I have $250 goal it’s gonna be the same price

whatever you bring in, minus 1% fee

at first didn’t have this on camsite in beta

having to explain price fluctuation

models want to know how to sell things

we just want to make it work, all the technical stuff I don’t know, it doesn’t matter

that’s all I need

I don’t really know how cash works or

don’t have anybody we partner with

gemini sex worker friendly

really good dealings with them

still have to go through exchange, kyc all those things

but I can kind of tease this, we are working on regulations for fiat offramp

load up on spank pay, go and pay bill

going through regulatory process on that, we’ll know mid march

due diligence, paperwork on all that

started camming, paid out on pay card

I could just go cash out automatically

really save me in times when I needed to get paid

that’s really gonna open doors for people

if we start seeing it in everyday practice showing friends

really hope that’s what’s coming next, h

we’re gonna clone product for other people in adult

cannabis, having a hell of a time with payments

there always getting fucked too, we’re gonna co-brand a product, like a white label

we targeted the people who needed this product

we wanted to build the things that the people needed

adult really needed it

this is what we’re all stoked on, this is how we live our lives

the bigger picture is white label it for whoever wants it

start with adoption for people who really need it

people who are unbankable

kind of a solution to a whole lot of problems

urge community to participate in this

send crypto on this

for me, someone in my camroom taught me how to use crypto

2018 started showing up different attitudes towards crypto

adult is always the forefront of technology

maybe if it takes off only a handfull will use it,

never came in there, we’re gonna change the game, we’re another solution we can solve a few problems, we’re hear, we don’t wanna fight

showing up year after year, friendly, hang out with models, provided good community

people started to take us more seriously

started winning awards, good press, kind of the black sheep, kinda strange ones

we were like the red headed step children of the industry

we kept showing up being friendly and cool, putting out products

markets have crashed but we’re still here

a little easier this last year, proven numbers, partners that really like us

been kind of a turning point

now its t

camsite didn’t have a lot of features

small team

takes a long time to do a lot of really cool shit

gave a space for people do do whatever they wanted

people slept

people garden

crypto allows you to do whatever the hell you want

free speech

so open, accepting

it was a no pressure zone, be yourself

smoke, eat

no ranking, no cam score

people were able to monetize it

one time, battle test on site, everybody on at the same time

we want you to break shit, push buttons all be streaming at the same time

spank house, going in tipping,

models streaming, we built this fucking product, spent every moment of our lives

really cool, everybody in this moment, so proud, so thankful model

spank house corporate culture

boys lived in venice beach, had a loft, had extra bedroom, most of team was remote

people would sleep on couches, get together a week a month, bang through things

boys had that place until this winter, downsized, it was a really great spot where the whole team could be together

we’re still remote, devs in canada, I’m in texas, to get team together on call once a week is not enough

company culture, spend a lot of time together, hang out together eat together, work together

we all get together and spend time together

working on this product, lived and breathed

I have a spank chain shirt,

we still have a problem, and have to build a solution

if eth is at 100 or 1000, still that problem out there, no one else is gonna do it

no one else has stepped up

we’re going to work every last second we possibly can

that’s one reason I’m still in this

I need someone to help me protect my money

I need this product

I will work tirelessly to make this product

this what drives every person on the team

whatever that markets gonna do

full force, here are the things we’re gonna do

market has changed so much

Inside the Camming for Crypto Lifestyle with Melissa Sweet1 TPP160


Melissa Sweet Pic

In this episode I’m joined by a highly accomplished and established entrepreneur in the adult entertainment and crypto currency/blockchain space. I first discovered her via an Intimate.io write up, then again via a Coindesk article. 

We discuss:

  • how she got into the camming lifestyle
  • how crypto entered her life
  • behind the cam, the average day in the life of crypto camming
  • constructive emotional responses to internalized “bitshaming”
  • favorite crypto news and info sources
  • time management skills for self-employment
  • seeking and sustaining healthy, authentic connections via social media
  • rave reviews for beta test camming on SpankChain
  • balancing revenue earning goals with crypto study time
  • basic crypto operational security
  • thoughts on day trading
  • diversifying income streams beyond payments and trading with staking coins
  • aspirations to build confidence for coaching and leadership
  • the development pattern of enthusiasts who become brand ambassadors
  • evaluating altcoins based on hash rate vulnerabilities and security with crypto51
  • adult crypto projects of interest including: SpankChain, Intimate,io, and Vice Industry Token
  • hard lessons, making mistakes along the way
  • joking about private keys in your private parts, the private keyster
  • how to play strypto, tits for tech tips
  • monetizing the free the nipple movement
  • cryptotitties.com and the need for cryptobooties
  • crypto video tutorials with Brenna Sparks
  • crypto for adult leadership by Ginger Banks
  • women in financial technology
  • the future of crypto camming
  • gratitude for vision of developers
  • how camming can often be safer than street sex work
  • the potential for smart contracts to clean up the sex industry
  • what is a shill
  • sharing investment wisdom but not advice

About Melissa:

MelissaSweet1 is an adult webcam model that is devoted to mental health awareness, tech, art and a cryptocurrency! Melissa streams on multiple adult platforms including MFC and Spankchain and has video stores on websites including Manyvids.com and Iwantclips.com

She is passionate about learning, thinking outside the box and having fun! 

Connect with her on Twitter: @MelissaSweet1_ and @cryptosweet111

Tip her with ETH at CryptoTitties.com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin their beloveds walk of the tundra Punk podcast episode number 160 I’m being joined by Melissa sweet one that’s with the number one correct that is so yeah if you search for her online it’s melissasweet1 with the number one at the end of the word sweet and she is an experienced cam girl and she’s passionate about cryptoeconomics technology art and all things that make a person a good and in virtuous in the world so that’s all what we’re talking about here people who are on the passive Liberation and healing and empowerment and using technology and cryptocurrency to to facilitate that on a on a wide scale and so I have discovered your work I think we had become king and notes nudging each other a bit on social media and then you were featured in a coindesk article which is a huge accomplishment for both pretty but if he has so that’s graduations on that thank you so much for joining us and we’ll start with asking you can please share about your background how did you get involved in the adult entertainment industry here this is my first podcast to start I actually got the inspiration to become a cam model from an episode of Family Guy believe it or not and I one day I was just sitting there watching Family Guy and there was an episode and it’s called call girl and Louis needed to get a job and she’s submitting to submit a resume and somebody picked her up and says she you have a great voice you know what do you think you want to be employed to use your voice and so down the road you know she wound up being a sex hotline operator and I thought to myself I could use some money thing you know cuz I want to talk on the phone for some money so what I did from there is I actually went to Google and I searched you know sex hotline operator blindly and I came acrossed myfreecams.com which for those that don’t know it’s actually an adult webcam community and I discovered she can girls and so you know I popped in a room and I I saw these girls and they’re excited and they’re receiving these things called tokens and I just knew it was tips and I had no idea what amount of money was being thrown around but I just I saw just excitement and earning potential and as soon as I found out what a cam model was I was literally signing up to be, I’m so that’s how I got started in the adult entertainment industry on the Curiosity a search on Google and taking a really big leak into something that I just said was completely enriched my life sex work is completely enriched my life so that is awesome well I’m pleased to hear about that if your success story and before we move on to the crypto stuff I let to just ask her more questions in that space which would be what was it like it did you have a fair balance of praise and adoration and love and respect and all the things that help build you up in a positive direction sounds like you’ve had a really positive experience and if you talk about just kind of how it felt to start to get that kind of attention coming through in addition to the money right I really didn’t know it was adding up to you know I’ve token was a nickel and I couldn’t do the math quick enough to calculate what kind of them were you know brand new to the site but it was actually a bit challenging believe it or not oh my God instant gratification and you know I got compliments I got tips accompanying it but there was a lot of times where because I was knew I had a small room really turned into a little bit of what I call emotional labor where I had the responsibility of keeping myself occupied just maintaining that happy you know Aura to attract people to me and so there is there is sometimes or it was it was challenging to you no stick with it and it is something that I really had to push myself with self-discipline with self-love and I’ll just stay consistent with it and I really believe that’s that’s all the reason why I’ve seen grills is that I’ve I’ve had a lot of really really rough days I’m just you know like you do at any job some days you don’t learn very much you’re somebody says the wrong thing and it’s just it’s a it’s a part of it so you really believe you have to have thick skin be really aware of your boundaries and just enjoy it you know it’s important you enjoy it that’s that’s why I’ve stuck with it I truly loved it there so many hours experience if I doing this is what I feel like yeah is it as a man I don’t know if I don’t know what the the patterns really are haven’t looked at really professional or academic research on it but it seems like women if I understand correctly can kind of get more nastier trolls I don’t know if that’s always the case but in my case I feel like there’s only been a few hecklers and they’ve been kind of so ridiculous that they almost almost at form entertainment 100% agree with trolls existing with people having too much idle time on their hands and and they’re not just bored they’re not happy and they’re sending negativity and they’re sending that you can feel it and it’s about kind of filtering out that negativity it’s a continuous process of not allowing you know people to get to you and kind of mess with your day so probably encounter more trolls than males however in the time that I’ve been streaming now I encounter less trolls and I feel like it’s because I’m really I really understand what I’m not okay with and I’m really I’m really quick to say hey now I’m not comfortable head up that’s not okay and it just beyond them and move on so that’s what I recommend about trolls is the more that you look at women wear that you pay attention to them or you’re actually feeling them and feeding them we don’t want them very well said why is words and and him as you’re seeing this I realize that this is really an accelerator for human emotional development and it’s not for everybody but it’s definitely a boot camp and it will it will inflate you but also yeah give you some calluses in the right places and make you stronger and would you say that this experience has helped you just be more confident and more assertive in other spheres of your life yes but it’s also been really challenging I’ve I’ve worked since the young age of 11 and out of all of my jobs that I’ve ever had this is by far the most challenging and yeah it’s taking a lot of self-maintenance self-love self-care to have balance because it’s if you don’t maintain that balance its it can be dangerous and then you you can create your own hours it gets addicting streaming earning so you just you really got to have that away I believe cool so when did you discover crypto and how did it into your life I discovered it about on the go I remember on MFC he actually had the desire to tip me the full amount some people don’t know that website scam platforms on the majority of them take 50% of the earnings and so this was a very loyal client still talked in this day and he he told me about coinbase and the reason that it was coinbase which shows as because he was International so he had the knowledge of being able to send money internationally find a way to evade the large you know payment cut that I received on the cam platform so it was actually just like a one-time deal except that I received but you know I created that coinbase account and you know it work to transfer to my bank and it remained open so that’s how that originally initiated and I just cashed that money out I didn’t like hodl I wish I wish but I just I used it as a payment processor it was it was really need its really need for that in that aspect so then I got involved in it again and on last year and I received a tip from an individual that caught my eye on Twitter and this is where it really changed my my view of things because I had an understanding tips just came from a camp lot for encounter. It bought and so I posted it on Twitter and then all the sudden this tipbot you know said hey I’m giving you x amount of Bitcoin cash and you’re receiving $16 in Fiat in RUSD what is this crap and I’m compelled to block it initially and Son stuff I had some time on my hands and I hours of reading and then I kind of got a concept of hay and all this stuff could be legit so took a leap of face and I use the boss that was commanded via on Twitter DM and then I was able to I was able to move it to my coinbase and I was like so from there you know I got in contact with the person that sent it and then from there I am in exchange services for crypto received it was actually tributes I received and it really caught my interest so I am a learner I am real curious and I just started researching and the more I research that the more I just fell in love with it and it just it’s evolved into a hobby of mine that really so it’s really cool for so many reasons in my eyes Mmm Yeah I love crypto I love crypto to that’s so beautiful and yeah it’s everybody has a different experience of falling down the rabbit hole and it usually involves having been forewarned with Advance time to become a millionaire very easily already and then having the bit shaming has it was sounds like you’re doing something similar to what I feel you know it’s maybe a post-traumatic missing out disorder is what I call it but if you know that you had an opportunity that you missed in then every second of day job work or anything you have any any work you have to do while you’re not kind of feeling like you’re working for yourself for making your own hours and you look back at those people I just hear the echo of you should have bought in back then you know you should have taken my advice like you should have bludgeon me with the stick that you should not have let me leave the room without signing up you know you know I actually channel that and instead of like focus on that I use it to feel me and I think that I was like oh man the more I learn about this man but chains just so mean it’s just I’ve had you know people in the community taught me stuff I’m not you know I say I’m self-taught and that’s where it started but now I can fortunately say multiple people have been kind enough to take time with me and and you know share their knowledge and and that’s the beautiful thing to do is I’m all about supporting community on the Fly have time or I can link someone with resources you know I want I want as many people to know about crypto as they can awesome yeah I totally agree that the positive approach the constructed thing is to take that energy and actually join the community and create value in the space even if you’re not a programmer or coder which I’m certainly not but yeah this is an interesting thing or just have this conversation the other day is that the really hard core tech key crypto Anarchist Engineers they need evangelist the to do more Marketing in front end, Consulting and design and user experience testing and stuff so people who it’s it’s it’s really a mutually beneficial thing so even if you feel like all I can understand this photography or whatever the cryptographers need people who don’t understand cryptography to break it down for people and get a look-in are so yeah if all I said was thank you for doing that it’s really exciting and desist yeah it’s a lot of people I’m sure who are listening to this or on a similar play somewhere along that path so yes if you what what is a day in the life of a assertive crypto hobbyist enthusiasts camming tell us a little bit about some behind-the-scenes you know people are you are you popping open your Hardware wallet and and transferring funds several times are trying to know what is it look like in your daily without giving away too much or anything private yeah I know that’s the fun I love to talk about it well I sleep less now that I started cooked out because it’s I just wake up really early now and I wake up about 5 a.m. like a little digging and then and read first thing I do when I get out of bed even before checking cam emails or anything cuz I just said a lot of fun and yeah I watch the sunrise and talk crypto and then from there I did instead of getting dressed immediately bullet it’s really optional getting dressed optional to subscribers so I go ahead and try to do that sexy modeling thing for a little bit and the snaps out and then I plant my butt at my desk and I do marketing I respond to emails I read you know both adult industry news and crypto news and then just come to that kind of setup my day I’m a bit of a planner some I have I have a couple of planters that I use in conjunction one’s a linear line and then another one’s Panda planner where allows me to play online when’s my weeks just kind of as a I decide to so I get a little bit of an idea for my day and then and then take off from there but during the daytime I will usually accept private server stream the days that I’m able to and then I do a lot of behind-the-scenes talking with my numbers and my friends that’s a big part of what I do actually I like that I really like having authentic connections it’s important to me so and then buy evening somewhere in there there’s like a bubble bath or two cuz I really like bubble baths by evening I’m I’m getting on what cam you know when I can and I like it a little bit of a break from temporarily just because it’s caught my eye and I’ve been you know participating as a beta tester for spankchain and it’s been in really it’s been a journey yeah so before I used to just be like wake up and snap and then you know cam cam cam all night long and now it’s just kind of a balance of no bouncing my earnings my goal and then you know how much time I can learn about crypto awesome so what are some of your favorite news sources or influencers different bloggers and YouTubers and whatnot I have a list of my favorite but I’m curious about who you what your digesting on a daily basis from that world I work a lot on my lurk in Discord them apart of a lot of crypto canonic servers so I just see the behavior of people what they’re saying how they’re behaving and a lot of social media monitoring I really enjoy sequin desk of course whatever really pops through my feet it’s mostly social media but I get it and then the inside on Discord like I participate sometimes unfortunate enough to have some really experienced guys invite me to their voice chat sometimes and they instilled me with a lot of really positive knowledge about you know the importance of getting hurt your crypto off of the online wallet and you know securing it in a cold wallet and offline wallet you know what I can on that’s what I do I don’t really do a lot of day trading I’ve done it and I enjoy it, I just don’t have the time and sometimes it can be added stress on the then I’ve also I was instructed on how to invest steak and a coin so I mean I I don’t just you know receive payment and bottle I just I have a binance in a bitstamp in a bit tricks and I have a metamask account and I just have all these different wallets in different places and I just enjoy learning about it I continue I hold a lot of altcoins just because I received them and why not and I’m really excited about you know the future of crypto where where it’s going to evolve from here cuz it seems to be kind of a roller coaster and it’s a lot of fun wow you’re getting into some really advanced stuff that’s awesome I’m kind of catching up to some of the stuff that where you’re at and this is very interesting. Just goes so it’s so infant and it’s so early too so I’m wondering if you know one of the things that I’ve struggled with as I have started to realize gains and started to figure out how not to have the whales eat your lunch so to speak you know and can be like a full-time job just not to lose your ass and it’s kind of fun it’s it’s one of the things it’s been hard it’s just getting really exciting psyched about it especially when it’s a can of Bull Run and it’s easy to be psyched about it and then trying to get a bunch of people on board and and then realizing sometimes that you know what it it’s it’s it’s really not a simple process for a lot of people so you know I didn’t know if you started to try to explain to him what the best procedure is that could change you know a week later the process and so I’m curious if you do how do you feel I’ve got I guess I got to a point where I just said you know what I’m going to wait to really try to unwrap people more until a lot of these protocols and regulations and things are settled so there’s really more of a just more of a reliable a reliable procedure I’m wondering if you kind of had that experience of trying to get everybody and then it’s like they all have different problems with customer support and then you’re kind of like going home and I should just wait until this is more mature where you at with that yeah you’re at your I’m on the same page as you you know blockchain technology is relatively new and because it’s decentralized you know we we don’t have a huge amount of rooms and places it’s really it’s really vulnerable is the word I would use I guess so I really am kind of sitting and waiting and I’m I would feel more comfortable once we have a little bit more concrete rules in place because I don’t know I just want to be straight across the board with everything that’s something that is a real big important factor to me cool when you feel that that sense of confidence with the state of things do you feel like you would actually start mentoring people especially Canton people in the industry who are being exploited and you know taking advantage of the neck to be using this to get more payments better payment it’s more security more privacy and all that good stuff it’s funny because I’m talking to people and passing and they’re talking about you next year and cam conventions excetra Anna a truck want to go yeah that is if I’m not doing crypto full-time and I’m nowhere near to the point to be like really coaching people for advice because I still feel that I’m learning but I think it would be really I’m ambitious I guess maybe one day you know to have enough knowledge where I have the confidence to really sure people on and to help you know allow crypto you know to empower their life and change it the way what has for me and I’ll just being able to have non-reversible transactions that’s internationally transferable there’s just so many things that make me all about crypto and all about that the industry cool hopefully yeah that will definitely happen I see a lot of people yeah even just different people who were starting out kind of is enthusiasts and then they become just out of their own curiosity of their own Journey starts a document them you know their progress on YouTube whatever and then all the sudden they got a hundred thousand followers and then crypto projects are hiring them to represent because they’re just brand ambassador huh that’s going to be in the cards for you is already made a lot of progress here in lovely lovely progression is so exciting so do you want to talk about you know with them of course any full disclosures about weather year invested or not do you know if you care to say that but basically you know projects that you’re looking at I got a number of projects in the adult space that I am invested in that I am I am we know with Sweat Equity and with with crypto mean a percentage of my Holdings and whatnot somewhat I’m wondering if you speak openly about projects that you are fans of that you invest in that you believe are going to help move things forward in this in the space specially the adult space I really enjoyed it comes R cryptocurrency in different cryptocurrencies on i-41 and more of a fan of like that Quinn and aetherium and it’s it’s because of security I believe in that those those two currencies on because they have significantly higher hash power than other coins out there and that high hash power makes it really more difficult to penetrate into be hacked than other coins such as altcoins so I for one of my favoritism and certain coins because of what I believe is the security of actual syntek and you know I’m all about coins and in people you know chasing you know their dreams and starting a coin and having a vision in the movement I think that’s the only way we get farther and that these all coins are actually helping the blockchain you know by increasing you know the different channels and stuff but I really don’t invest I mean like I said I didn’t really start dabbling in this until last year so I’m a Noob I mean I I I know some things but I don’t really I don’t like I’m not invested in any projects you know I like spankchain and that’s something that I see myself spending a lot more time on as much as I can and you know balancing. And then my my original site and messy and then just seeing how it involves and then there’s another company on that I’ve met actually I think about it and it’s intimate II earlier this year at an adult convention and they’re really really kind and super passionate about crypto and just very welcoming they have a business plan kind of like where that you have a scrub and that’s you know it’s just nice to see different platforms and in different coins popping up you know their catering does an adult industry it’s it’s great and you know I got to meet with Vice token at that convention got some advice and yeah I mean that’s crazy about all of them but stink she’s definitely one my heart so far just cuz I’ve had the opportunity to work for them and I’m excited to see other adult platforms that launched and I’m definitely going to be adamant about testing amount and the percent of them awesome yes I’m a I’m a big fan of spankchain as well and I’ve been counting on there and it’s been the best treatment and the best tipping I’ve experienced so far and not to mention I’m not even thinking about the the cut you know the better percentage deal of the earnings but just just the generosity and the spirit and the love that I think specially the people that early the early if they’re a.m. developers and the people who really believed the people who bought into that at all you know there’s some of the most fascinating generous very respectable people that I have been countered in in my life I feel like this is a whole new they’re really already living in the future and they’re sort of pulling helping us people who are like straggling in the past and I’m just throwing ropes down from this so beautiful or I feel like I’m getting beamed up into the mothership when if the and there’s my way from wherever so yeah I’m there with you and I also agree that that’s a good point for people to know that this the hash power there’s a noose I don’t know if you heard about this is called like crypto crypto 51 so your breaks down the hash power of each so that you know pretty much just saw it. I don’t like oh wow that’s interesting to me as crypto 51 app app and hit shows you really a there’s a huge drop off into the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars when you get it below aetherium and then Bitcoin cash in the below that it’s it’s a trip for anybody doesn’t understand exactly what we’re talking about here is basically that the only you call Food first-mover advantage and network effect so the the two most robust networks are also the oldest and the pretty much the oldest and also the ones that are most distributed in and have the most the biggest developer community and whatnot so definitely not professional investment advice but but looking at this you can kind of get a sense of where where you should be more cautious about hedging your bets and where you can feel a little more secure so I agree with you and six actually something I like about spankchain and and even an intimate as well as at least you know they’re starting out with aetherium Bay smart contracts and then you know if if things have already changed and there can be opportunities I guess to to be what they call blockchain agnostic and just choose really the most the best and most secure and most solid backgrounds for for running these apps it’s really more about the apps than speculating on you know the the Kumon play my game so I think that yeah that’s as cool as hell but the real value so cool thank you for sharing that and I’m moving along with some questions you’re so have you had a real difficulty so far he had to deal with any real like I mean worst case scenario will be any kind of hackers or any kind of close calls with you know I remember my heart racing copying addresses from different currencies to send a different wallets and hoping that I had the right wallet addresses in the right currency and just that your eyes are just starting across the screen a little bit going am I doing this right now I’m doing it right but I’m lying then your hesitancy click so one time it wasn’t a real big mess up I actually got to the trading sites because I wanted and I’m not chilling here xrp because everybody was doing it okay that I was probably Shield I’ll correct that so I’m going to go ahead and get some xrp and I learned that I had to do it from a training site and so you know I went ahead and I got the xrp and then I want to buy more of that or something and instantly sold it on accident I want to actually create a bit I was actually going to trade it for Fiat I believe and I just did instant sale and it wasn’t a big deal but it just showed me the power of the click and you know how it could really it could be dangerous and I can’t urge that enough that you know you go in here and you kind of navigate yourself and you’re going to make mistakes you can easily lose money that’s why there’s crypto Consultants out there you know they’re there to protect that and enforce that doesn’t happen to people like that you know I’ve had provided the wrong wallet address for tokens to come in for an example coinbase you note only supports blue for cryptocurrencies right now and I wish I had somebody send me my it was Frank actually and it was just that they saw the addresses up and we just completely innocent mistake and I want to send you spank it once in my coinbase instead of my metamask which coinbase has the support a token of our I’m sorry metamask is supported token of stank and coinbase isn’t so when the money was sent that spank was sent to my coinbase it was lost and I wasn’t able to retrieve that you know about it because that’s not a supported token spank for that that wallet so you need to have knowledge of what wallets hold what coins and what coins are sending to those wallet whether or not they they can be in a unit transferable with that stuff so let me think any other compromises because it takes so many you know Network confirmations in the blockchain. Actually finish the transaction and I just remember so many times when I did a Trader I sold and I’m just like holding my breath waiting and hoping and fearing that it wouldn’t show up because of an error so it’s it’s nerve-wracking in that aspect for sure I said definitely still the early phases and someday we’ll look back and laugh right about all the stuff you know just you got to really be careful not to have it cost you and you know just hold yourself accountable and and have that responsibility and know that that’s on you you know because we’re used to having centralized you know Financial currency and stuff and that provides a barrier buffer you know you have the bank if somebody just beat it with and just in the wrong address tough luck so all right yeah we’re learning to grow up for learning to be if you’re going to be your own bank you got to have your own armored car to to go along with it so let you know with writing down your seeds on a piece of paper and you know not just holding onto things digitally I was and I had great advice by some experienced people and they advised me to get a fireproof waterproof envelope you know to put those pieces of paper in the cold wallet in and then you know stored in a safe if you can or somewhere trusted so awesome we’ll hopefully yeah it’ll be a some sort of production house that will want to make crypto adult content that is the movie release exit by the learning process and hide the private keys somewhere I find them I was joking about this should be at teledildonics toy that works with the with the webcam platform and have it be called the private keister so you could have a hardware Hardware wallet that you put it where the sun don’t shine really committed to to hack that yes somebody somebody’s going to kick down and make it happen yet that’s it I’m open sourcing that that Concepts right now whoever wants to take it on you know that’s all I care about is something that’s so funny and it turned into strip towel on webcam on Skype with the gentleman and I was like thank you so much for that advice and I just like tips for Tech tips well as the free the nipple movement so how about incentivize the freedom it the nipple movement you know his vote with your crypto and make this happen if read nipple exposure totally deserves it for everybody to The cryptokitties Killing up kitties I do have you signed up for cryptotitties I’d be all over that but you did cryptokitties are titties right are you it might it’s really number two and number three I don’t know if we’ve kind of had a little bit of the fun pop in back and forth around spots that number one Brenna she’s been holding it down for a while and she’s doing really cool things you know it’s doing I think she’s doing nude video tutorials about crypto and stuff and you know it it’s cool that’s actually how I even landed you know the exposure with coindesk one of my friends Ginger Banks she had she had suggested me when I was inquiring and you know I’m really grateful for that and I just it’s cool it’s cool to see pretty ladies getting into the the fintech and awesome so what who do you say that was that had already been doing the crypto she’s releasing in it from then I may be mistaken but from what I remember and recollect seeing on social media she was just doing some like that it’s cool I was there to obsessively you said really been awesome we covered a lot we have another 15 minutes or so left so you want to get into some of what you see is now that you have so many kind of data points that you’re working within and studying as far as the future of crypto in specially in the adult world do you have any feature requests or if you could have the ear of the developers which I’m sure you probably do but I’m just curious now that you have all this experience what it what do you see is some opportunities on the horizon well I ideally I would love to see it’s really hard it’s it’s so diverse honestly I’m kind of sitting here waiting to see what the developers are bringing me you know what they’re going to bring to the table I’m a really creative person and I’m like smiling ear-to-ear saying that spankchain is really delivering like what I was hoping for you know I’m a cam girl that’s what I do and they just save really delivered a really cool platform so far I don’t know I think it would be I cannot think of anything that isn’t in the works already and that’s super cool I see so many creative developers and you know one reason these different groups and just everybody has their vision and it’s just it’s so inspiring so I really don’t I don’t have any suggestions for the developers out there except the key thank you thank you so much dollars is hardworking developers out there for making this this comes alive because it wouldn’t be you know without you guys so thank you agree effect actually have the same experience which is that when I started to understand crypto and I started to really in my own mind just brainstorm about how many problems and pain points I could solve for all of the adult I mean I’ve been in the adult world for a long time it’s real what’s up how long if you don’t mind me asking sadly you know fortunately it goes back to even before I was at legal age and that kind of gets into some someone over five years for today I just hit 5 years so like 5 years 10 years so I was just trying to get some more experience than I don’t think I’ve ever been as successful as you’ve probably been but that’s just kind of the way that the cookie crumbles for the gender gap in marriage is hard no matter what gender but I think that maybe maybe you know girls might be more of a demand for men I don’t know it’s hard to say I don’t know you would know better than me you know all I have is my side in my experience you know and that’s what you’re bringing to the table and that’s that’s interesting and very insightful to hear him best time to be alive if you want to strut your stuff because you know back in my day and like I said I’m a come from I come from working in the streets really you know an environment where there were no safeguards and there was no identity blockchain verification all the stuff so now I’m really excited to see especially just this Avenue of camming for four people because it’s so much more it’s so much safer to make a living you can be a mother you can be going to school just to eat if you don’t want to have anything to do with it and it’s actually extroverted introverted by Nature I like to talk and be social but when I’m around a lot of people sometimes I get on easy so I mean I have the big luxury of you know streaming from being alone in my room and that’s it’s really nice to hear that you know you’re able to exercise in your comfort zone more you know overtime could possibly imagine being the solution to all the problems that I’ve encountered in that I know other people have encountered I mean really gnarly things too pushy like from dumb contracts where you could be there’s if there’s like serial rapist to use so-called porn edition agreements to say oh you’re going to come here and now Edition but you’re not getting paid and maybe we’ll pay you later and send you a check in the mail smart contracts can clean up all of that funny business and so yeah but between the projects that are that are all out there doing her thing and serving different niches and different use cases I’m I’m pretty much am just feel like a sports fan and you know I haven’t felt like a sports fan in a long time but I feel like I’m like that too though I’m in my office standing up going yet really right on in and I’m actually at 2 to throw in a key word here for people who might not have the vocabulary at the term show we mentioned earlier and it said it’s a funny funny character Wikipedia is pretty funny so I’m just going to give us do a little of sidebar of a little bit of crypto and investing vocabulary for people and it says that says here on Wikipedia as she’ll also called a plant or a stooge is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with a person or organization shows can carry out their operations in the areas of media journalism marketing confidence games are other business areas that show my also asked to discredit opponents are critics of the person or organization in which they have a vested interest through character assassination or other means so when we say we’re not Shilling a coin then we’re disclosing whatever affiliations we have and we’re not trying to dupe other people into a Ponzi scheme or any other such fraudulent Activity one thing that I really stressed if people I go you know just don’t believe what people are promoting do your research I actually have a second Twitter account it’s at cryptosuite 111 and I have a link to a store that has a lot of the basic vocabulary terms for crypto Amino basic abbreviation so that those out there that are trained understand it better I think the learning those terms it’s really helpful to better understand it and yeah you just got to be careful it’s the people will definitely push their brand and push their product primele be motivated by profit so you got to you got to do it yourself tear homework yeah I agree definitely and it’s has been I get to Fine Line and learning that as well and just knowing you know the there is a healthy and and transparent and respectable way to promote the projects that you find interesting and just yeah or if you or if you are engaged with the proper motivation just just stating at 4th right so that it’s understood that okay that could be you could be just you know so starry-eyed that you might have unconsciously or even consciously in the worst cases be distorting facts but I mean something that really is demoralizing is to see the the tribalism between currencies and people trying to cut each other down and certainly fud and all that really negative aspects but I don’t want to be manipulative and just you know information and you know to get information you know like I said from multiple sources cuz that’s the only way to really you know try to gain an understanding about it it’s it’s hard it takes a lot of reading a mean I remember reading white papers until my eyes ached and it was it wasn’t because I was investing is just because I was curious so I wanted to see how they’re doing this and what they’re doing awesome will this is so exciting thank you so much for your time we’re getting close to an hour here so I just want to say if you have any last words of advice or I certainly if you want to plug all of the places where people can connect with you and hopefully people checking out and was the number one you’ll probably come across my PornHub account and I have and I want Clips store in any of its MyFreeCams spankchain I’m really dispersed everywhere and down my thumbs are open if anybody has questions about crypto I just I love being a part of the entertainment community and it’s been a really fun transition into crypto on with adult work encourage everyone else to get on board you know that that wants to and just learned it’s it’s been fun awesome I’ll second that and say that my my advice my personal non-professional vices don’t invest your money invest your time and understanding it and good things will happen and you will be very strategic so or about investing your time and understanding its and just so I can make a quick buck and so long at it but I think about it tell people you know you need to treat that investment as if you could lose it all you do is really not wise to take money and expect that return because some people are out there promising that you know and those are the people that are just Crush alot. Random stuff so you need to treat your investment like you know that it’s at the market fluctuates you know the value can go up and down and you need to just make sure that you don’t put yourself in a bad spot counting on it exactly exactly what that is great great advice and so yeah we’ll have definitely have to follow up and if any time you feel like coming back on the show just feel free to reach out and I’m sure you will want to be in touch again as things develop it looks like some exciting developments happened even just today with the aetherium in the SEC and that bullish news about it not being a security that is very exciting and again back to your point about to stick with the majors people and you know I’ve heard some surprising things though like I I would like to know if there’s not I thought my perceptions there’s not much money to be made and all coins but I’ve had people blow my socks off telling you that there were here day trading and they’re making good money so it’s like you know whatever whatever pick up and you like and you can do and you you can roll it that go for it cuz some people up there is some people are natural Traders and it’s just about wherever you want to go with it so all I want to thank you so much for having me on and I’ll definitely take you up in the future on for coming on here cuz it’s been really enjoyable talking crypto with somebody that also has an understanding of its enjoy the rest of your day and we will be in touch soon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com put on the Downey by 10 to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at +81-827-515-9314 event at Orchard Park. 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