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How to Turn People On to Your Brand with Adult Entertainment Publicist Brian S. Gross TPP194

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In this episode I’m joined by Brian S. Gross, a highly accomplished entertainment industry publicist who’s been making a living by making people famous for many years. I reached out for advice several years ago after discovering his unique expertise in my most ambitious areas: music and adult entertainment. We recently reconnected and I thought it would be great to have him give us a glimpse into his personal and professional journey and discuss  the role of PR companies in the evolving media landscape.

We discuss:

  • his early passionate and persistent efforts to get his foot in the door at high end record companies
  • how he managed to work directly with some of the most legendary artists in the music industry
  • his evolution from the music industry to the adult industry
  • lessons he learned from his mentors that helped him start his own company
  • the day-to-day of public relations work
  • the urgent need for PR in the age of social media
  • how to turn people on to your brand niche
  • how adult entertainment media is no longer one dimensional
  • how you can find media, writers, etc who will want to discover what you are doing
  • how you can find those who will want to make others aware and help build a fan base
  • his attitude of fearlessness and his “why not” approach to not over-thinking things
  • his application of the wisdom of Yoda, to only do or do not, but not to try
  • his words of encouragement for me to be willing to take risks to promote what I believe is important
  • how you never know who will pick up a story so its best to get it out there

About Brian:
Brian Gross, President of BSG PR, has been in the service of media and public relations for over 26 years. Gross has been employed by companies such as Def American RecordingsWarner Brothers RecordsReprise RecordsElektra Entertainment GroupVivid Entertainment Group, and such organizations as The Lollapalooza Tour. Brian Gross was an Executive Producer for Reality-X: The Search For Adam & Eve.  His background includes all facets of public and media relations, working with some of the largest businesses, celebrities and music acts in the world.

Clients of BSG PR, past and present, include Gene Simmons, Sasha Grey, Adam & Eve, Penthouse, Phoenix Books, The AVN Adult Entertainment Expo, Joanna Angel, BurningAngel, Greg Lansky, Girlsway, Pink Visual, Evil Angel, Girlsway, Autoblow A.I., Fearless Man, Nina Hartley, Lupe Fuentes, Kendra Sunderland, LA Pop Art, Liberation Entertainment, Ecko TV, Kaiju Big Battel, Lucky 13 Clothing, Pinup Girl Clothing, Punk Rock Bowling and Music Festival,  Chuck Zito, Omarosa, Blanc/Biehn Productions, Stockroom, Tony Clifton, Sheri’s Ranch, Big Teaze Toys, MyGirlFund, WantedList, WoodRocket and many others…

Please visit his website at:
http://bsgpr.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 194 I am being joined by Brian s gross of BSG public relations and he is such a jaw-dropping about page I just decided I really do this but I decided I definitely want to read this to really put the context in here because with with it that the merging of the technology space in the adult industry space and actually to give a little bit of backstory on this we connected now it’s been about 4 years or so since first actually started putting out a press release and seeking really advisement and consult consultation within the the the pr companies within the adult industry to see if there was any possibility to get some traction doing this sort of shamanic pornography and feminist porn kind of brand that I’ve been trying to develop mixing my music and video production and ethics and politics into media and so I have really been kind of putting The Feelers out into the space and Brian gave me some feedback back in the day and we have serendipitously reconnected recently and so I thought why not let’s have a butt supposed to connect in in this podcast domain and again I’m astounded by what he’s accomplished in some of the parallels in our Journeys here so I’m just going to go ahead and read the about page and then we’ll get started with the interview so Jared is BSG public relations takes a precise and strategic approach to promoting all facets of entertainment and efficient and motivated staff handles everything from intricate details of executive with City to positioning our clientele within compelling and effective media campaigns Street marketing teams and Creative Marketing efforts BSG public relations handles all avenues of communication is bringing your study to approach to marketing media and public relations with Creative Solutions that furthers the message & image of our clients we handle everything from the intricate details of executive publicity to positioning clients with compelling media campaigns we look to broaden and brand artist companies and products multi-level publicity campaigns combined with knowledge and background in every facet of entertainment media and communication the most importantly always putting the client first Brian Gross president of BSG PR has been in the service of media and public relations for over 26 years gross has been employed by company said Steve American recordings Warner Brothers records reprise records Elektra Entertainment Group Vivid Entertainment Group and such organizations as the Lollapalooza tour Brian Gross was an executive producer for Rio TX the search for Adam and Eve his background includes all facets of public and media relations working with some of the largest businesses celebrities and music acts in the world Brian thank you so much for joining me on the podcast and please tell us all about your personal Journey how did you get into this position of such influence and expertise school is my senior year and I’m a I’m a big Sports person as well and I was not good enough to make the varsity basketball team but wound up helping out with the younger teams and I want to getting fired for verbally assaulting a referee who completely screwed up a game and all of a sudden I had free time and I literally took out my CD collection which I know that sounds so funny in this day and age but went through it and started calling record labels and pretty much got blown off by many of them because I was a senior in high school they were looking for college kids and one label an independent label def American the girl who answered the phone was in the PR department and she still one of my best friends to the stay cuz she called she I said come in for an interview and before I knew it I was driving after school three days a week from Newbury Park California to Burbank to make press kits and learn all about the music industry well that is exciting so what were some of the what what are some of the bands in an album is like what were you into at the time I was definitely a classic rock kid a NuWave and I just wasn’t you know I was sort of what the radio fed me so you know I hadn’t really branched out as far as my music likings were concerned and you know early 90s you know 90 to 91 92 you realize just how there was no such a divided because you know really popular stuff was extremely poppy you were on the end of sort of the metal era you had this grunge thing happening you had this sort of underground music thing happening you had punk rock obviously happening but I grew up in the suburbs and and it just didn’t resonate with me at the time you know then you go to a record label and you start going through the CDs and you just start this massive Discovery and bands walk in and you meet people and you spend time with artists and musicians and it just completely through open a world that I was you know I was aware but I wasn’t aware to that extent and it was pretty exciting to just see the variety especially at this specific record label the variety of of music that was being put out and and how exciting it was awesome so from there so what how to tell us the story of how you evolved from the doing stuff mostly in the music and more and more General entertainment business into the adult industry which I see you have a lot of accolades from so I I mean I work my way up in the record industry from 93 to 99 I I was took a couple internships than an assistant job than a West Coast tour tour publicist West Coast Regional tour publicist job and then I saw what master was doing and I realized you know as a as a low man on the totem pole in the satellite office for record label I better figure something out and literally fell in my lap where two people one of which had this specific that had this position and and the other was the brother of the owner of the company hit me up and said hey you know you should interview for this job that’s going to open up to be the head of PR and marketing for a company called Vivid which I was obviously very familiar with as a young male and so the money was a lot more and the opportunity was there and it was just one of those things I was 23 and I wasn’t going to say no I couldn’t pass it up so I became the head of PR and marketing for Vivid Entertainment in the spring of 99 while you were busy absorbing all of this until from the corporate world and very established Enterprises and then you’re building essentially what will become your your own personal company and brand can you tell us about some of the some of the lessons you learned some of the highlights of of your journey along that way if kind of building your own becoming an entrepreneur as opposed to an employee working for Stephen her she had a very hands-off approach you know he wanted me to practice the way I had learned doing publicity at the record labels and bring that same approach to the adult film stars that were under contract with this company and to the company itself so I really had this sort of open book of you no opportunities and and and really just publicizing a a massive brand his thing was don’t spend any money which you know you laugh at but it was pretty when you when you eliminate budgets and you have to be creative that’s that made you have to work relationships in and put ideas out there and look for opportunities that I think in this day and age we wouldn’t even think twice about it but at the time we’re pretty groundbreaking you know so you know what that in mind it just became abaa I learned so much from that that when I went on my own I took sort of his entrepreneurship of run Dino of starting and running a massive adult entertainment company with what I learned is being a publicist and I’m just sort of found my way I had some incredible mentors the forest publicist go ahead incredible mentors who you know I went to when I started my company said how to what am I doing how do I do this you know and they were so giving and and so just easy you know so open Armon and I’m just taught me so much in a really short. Of time to where I was just off and running and getting clients and doing what I’ve been doing what I could I mean for me getting up every day and doing my job isn’t necessarily hard and I think I’m fortunate that I have that s Ellison and work ethic that I know is very challenging for many people but you know I just learned quickly I could get a lot of clients and and synergize and and do a lot for them and and just sort of Broad and from there awesome yeah I’m having flashbacks to reading a book called guerrilla marketing back when I was doing start up stuff and and it really did get a budget mattered so you had to teach you had to be creative and you had to think out-of-the-box so I can I can resonate with that and I remember one of a CEO for a company I work for has said you know the difference if there’s a difference between marketing and PR and marketing is what you say about yourself in PR is what other people say about you and you really really want to have that that perspective that that’s where the third person perspective in your printing and copying in to have it buffering so that the artists and the company’s don’t aren’t doing all of that he’s some kind of damage control I guess you could say and sometimes they just that stuff that Shameless self-promotion that people people can see through it on the on the receiving end and then on the giving end you’d rather not be tooting your own horn so much so it’s a really vital function that you play in the in the ecosystem of have any kind of business and I love to hear about just soap for people who aren’t that well versed in what a publicist does it would appear our company does tell us about the sort of day today and I’m kind of break it down for people who might not know famous for a living right you know the longer sort of breakdown of that is you know celebrities Brands companies hire a publicist to get there messaging in there and what they have to sell out there to the media which is then you know red watched listen to buy hopefully millions and increases sales increases exposure and increases the the growth of of whatever the brand or the company or the person is so it’s an aspect of marketing but it’s solely deals with sort of the public Persona and then obviously the media which radio TV print and online are the four basics of that and obviously they in this day and age you know what you know podcast would kind of be filed under radio but it’s also online it’s audio but there’s there can be a video component that can be a a written component so you have a lot of Lines Blurred when it comes to the media nowadays and I just think for me it’s important for my clients in this day and age there’s so much opportunity there so many ways to get your message out there and you know me and you know my team and and myself we look to find those opportunities finals relationships and and do everything we can for clients to to accomplish the goals that they have female except for us how’s your job gotten more difficult at all or more challenging in the age of social media where you have the potential for celebrities to put their foot in their mouth to and create these Mega backlashes online that you kind of do have to do some some damage control on that do you have any thoughts what the the social media landscape has done for your industry herself you know social media gives you a way to do a more immediate Outreach but sometimes you have to be careful clients have to be careful what they say out there you know what I work more left-of-center stuff where you know I’m not working conservative projects that you know they have to be really careful what they say but certainly at I work with clients that you know we talked about messaging and we talked about what they put out there and make sure we’re on the right we’re on the right track and we’re in agreement and on the right path but I think social media you know I think it’s it’s positive it’s certainly a life-changing things it certainly has changed the landscape of society and and whatnot on a larger scale but you’re not the end of the day we all are just fascinated by other people and they do so it just open doors opens doors in that respect what do you know actually makes me think about how it made some sense you talking about Dimension to have the image of Tower Records on Sunset and I’m just the decline of the record industry and all of the digitization of all kinds of media and how that took a big chunk out of profits for a lot of folks in an industry but when I based on what you were just say no actually realized you might think that the same thing would happen to PR once people could become demigod celebrities on social media by themselves but the reality is they probably need to hire a publicist more than ever because you need that filter right you need that you need someone to advise you on on the strategies of how you express yourself because it’s so easy to just fire something off that just Neo take sweat they say it could take 5 years to build a career in 5 seconds to destroy rights and all I would add to it is you know you need you need someone in my position when you have something that is so public and you need someone that can help you because a lot of times there is a lot of Crisis and a lot of people don’t know what to do and we’ve certainly witnessed over the years when when things go wrong or how you know when things are handled poorly and you know we live at a time where the media is constantly attacked so they’re going to attack that so you want to be on the right side of things and you want you know if you want to handle your media aspect as professionals possible and it’s there are challenges you know I’m not a brain surgeon this isn’t brain surgery by any any respect but it’s an important part of the marketing and sales aspect and the overall brand awareness of who you are and what you’re trying to accomplish yeah I think that was a good real basic intro and overview and just kind of hammers hammers in that this part of the ecosystem of success as a creative artist is not is not going away in or should it and so it was it is a breath of fresh air and I think about it a lot I think about a lot how how to moderate myself and there’s a lot of fear and and hesitation in this climate of you know you can really you can really put your foot in your mouth so I I I think it says probably at yeah it’s it’s been on my mind you know this whole your sector of industry and where it’s at so this is timely for me until I guess I would say to be somewhat selfish for a moment here with the last few minutes I would say that I guess bringing this back to what my my unique value proposition is to the world as my representing myself and my brain really it is I guess it is kind of element in a way I’m saying sexuality and pornography and all forms of of music and art they can all actually be very healing and very therapeutic and there’s almost a bias against that because people sometimes in some sense people want to just have really either extremely kind of edgy entertainment that just gets them off sexually or titillates them or sort of just appeals to that Hollywood sense of just completely not necessarily that intentional or that healing or that spiritual and so there’s kind of a bias against what I’m offering which could be seen his kind of all you’re you’re just a goody-two-shoes you’re kind of a mama’s boy you want people to be meditating and doing yoga and actually it might my sort of reply to that that biases that actually know what what some of the practices that are done in shamanic Sexual Healing Sarah on your work are actually equally if not more extreme and in and actually riveting and and put you on the edge of your seat as is anything that would be considered Gonzo or Triple X Ino Xtreme Hardcore and it really is Hardcore to be doing some of the more spiritual aspects of sexuality so when I I put out a press release I don’t know if that was the one that you saw or if that was a wet what the time frame was around that but I would just say to you do you think there is a niche for what would I would call shamanic pornography or pouring that intense did not only educate but also to promote healing and healing from trauma and and what not yours if not longer you know when I first got in the industry as far as adult entertainment goes is very one-dimensional especially the media coverage and it was all about getting eyeballs because you could use the word pornography in a way that you know people be like oh what what it what are they going to talk about and then then then there was a change in the change happened when media like Vice came along and media like BuzzFeed and and other media that said to a certain extent and we’re not going to just treat this as one-dimensional because it isn’t a one-dimensional discussion it is in a one-dimensional product you know as as the adult industry expanded I found it interesting that the media expanded in their coverage and you have certainly the negatives does the word in general is certainly looked at in a negative way and I rarely use it I say it because of that is once you say that word and it’s you know maybe one day it’ll be changed or looked at not as this glaring sing but as a form of entertainment form of Education a form of you know healing as as you as you work on but the media look to do more coverage and be more multi-dimensional and to what you’re trying to accomplish and what you’re doing what you’re doing and what you’re trying to accomplish to my point is you can find media that’s not easy but you can find people you can find writers you can find me there you can find public entities you can find people that will want to discover what you are doing and will want to make others aware and will want to build the foundation and build a fanbase in and build a unit around it so which is not the issue these days the issues speed of time and the issue is just sort of the you know overwhelming amount of media that we deal with everyday especially in our current political climate where we’re being overdosed with one piece of toxic news after another and end toxic not men the political fashion just met met you know we’re bombarded with different types of briefs and stories and just aspects of life that can that are just so fast and furious and you’re trying to fit in there you know you’re almost trying to swim upstream and place you know place your story on a rock while well water keeps hitting in the face so I I I constantly am taking on opportunities and clients and different types of niches and different types of products and different types of stories because I know who’s to say that I know what a media person will want to write about or not I don’t what I do is I give them the opportunity and I find out hey is this is this interesting do you want to do this do you want to cover this and it’s yes or no or mid might be a maybe or they’re on the fence or they’ll think about it and we did we discuss it and see what happens so it’s just a the media is a constant River at its its 24/7 its domestic and international you know stories can break anywhere in the world and then just travel the speed of light and around the globe and become as you know become viral so it’s just a it’s just the the effort and the Mine Song of people in your position as to am I ready to take this Challenge on I’ve something Niche I’ve something unique but I think it’s important and and how do I get it out there and and what you know how many people can I turn on to what I have to build from from where I’m at well those are profound words of wisdom and I’ve got chills because I know that at some point I have I’ve got two to cross that and make that leap of faith sand and be willing to be criticized and be willing to be sued and be willing to be all kinds of things and having that team and I feel like the podcast has been a tool to to kind of build that team and to know if there is a you know what keeps me up at night is what happens if there is an influx of capital what if there is a viral content piece that get 50 goes out and it’s not that you become rich and famous overnight at you is that you become suddenly under the microscope and you need to know about compliance with a lot of things and so that that’s my Virgo mind getting getting very sort of The Fearless aspect where I try not to overthink even though it’s impossible but I just I just try and push you know you just you know I I’ve constantly at a career of why not you know why not internet a record label why not internet another one why not drop out of school you know cuz it was just wasting time and money you know and then why not become an assistant why not become a tour publicist why not go to an adult entertainment company Why not start your own PR Company why not work with Gene Simmons you know it’s you know if you can answer why not then there’s no reason you know and you know we always I’m a Star Wars junkie and I think you might be in the same generation or not but we all sort of live by the the words until the age of of Yoda and so you try not you do or you don’t you do not but you just don’t try to go for it and you know there’s certainly you you think things out and they’re processing is calculated risk and what not but I’ve always another mindset where if you if you’re if you’re thinking too much about it then it’s just time wasted you know you’re not pushing forward and what you’re trying to accomplish but once you get past that you know and and you’re not going to know if I sitting around thinking you’ll never know if it takes off or not you just won’t it is the action and it is the risk that you have to eunos put out there and find out if you have something or not and you know I definitely I’ve had all kinds of clients I really have and I’ve had successes clients it succeeded sold our company and made lots of money and I have clients that failed you know but it just nothing worked and Company disbanded and I’ve got you know hundreds of files of clients over 19 years and but they all they all went for it you know wherever they are you know there’s somewhere you know that they took a risk and even when I produced a reality show you know what they say it was a risk I was a two-year process to even get to production but once you know once we decide we’re going to do it my partners and I at the time of that production company we just put her head down and we weren’t going to give up and we got the parties involved then it did well could have done better but it did well exist in there broke a lot of ground but it’s definitely important you know there’s just that dividing line of doing something and in what it is that hold you back from from going for it yeah I hear you there is just kind of wrap up here to respect your time and then I will just say that again More Chills and more of just that that cause mcnab’s you know there was there is one Flagship I guess I would say it was for me was like the pilot episode of the series that I’m doing now it’s called sexorcism the tantric Opera twitch wow Google Keyword that I want to fully on because a lot of without weather so I can get is an album is a band that did an album called sexorcism there’s there’s a kind of I don’t know if it’s play with the idea but but what I’m bringing to it is it is definitely from a pure-hearted place of sincere documentarian work and so hopefully that’s I think what’s going to be what I would put money into an invest in to try to get some some media coverage on and I’ve been a little bit shy about it now for a couple of years just wanting to not be the one to push that in people’s faces but that’s exactly the layer of buffer that I need of someone to say hey look take it or leave it this is what this guy’s doing here it is and if I can have that someone like you help me with that then I think it’ll be it’ll be a dream come true so we will we will talk offline about what your thoughts are for the trajectory of a project like that but I would love to discuss obviously well and I look forward to having that discussion and obviously I appreciate being on your podcast in and you know getting to have this kind of discussion I think I ain’t got to a certain extent I think people you’re right don’t really understand publicity and public relations and media relations and you know marketing to a full extent but I think it’s you know having the conversation and getting the opportunity to talk about it even one person goes wow that’s interesting I want to I want to know what that career is you know something I’m always interested in doing it you know making people aware of the career and path I chose the life I chose and you know going from there well I’m sure there’s a lot of people who would say as they received the rewards that they couldn’t have done it without you and so hopefully I will be able to join those ranks sooner rather than later and again and again thank you for reaching out to me as very synchronistic yeah let’s let’s be in touch do you want to tell people where to find where to find your work and just yeah side BSG pr.com and my Twitter and my Instagram RBS GPR and it’s financials at when I made the company name it was like well we’ll just Brian Scott gross of my name and BSG are my initials and public relations and it was just a simple as that so I guess I was another thing I learned of like trying to keep you know keep it linear and you’re hiring me and so that’s where a Vsepr came from awesome alright will Brian thank you again so much that I had a great time and can’t wait to get to know you better and move on from here so thank you so much again and have a great afternoon thank you you as well look forward to catching up with you again real soon all right take care of podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the 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The Path of Sacred Sexuality Leadership with Erikaa Briones TPP189

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Erikaa Briones PicIn this episode I’m joined by the exalted fellow sacred sexuality educator Erikaa Briones for an enlightening adventure of personal transformation and empowerment.  She shares deep personal accounts of overcoming trauma and transmuting pain into power.  Along the path of her hero’s journey she was blessed with great allies.  She received transmissions of spiritual wisdom and truths that helped to accelerate the rediscovering of her inner and ancient divine sexual priestess.  Her cinematic narrative is the stuff of best sellers.

She provides an overview of her qualifications, services, and offerings and provides a warm invitation to reach out to her for guidance and support no matter where a seeker is at in their journey. She’s developed a wide variety of gifts that serve the diverse needs and desires of her clients.

We discuss goddess archetypes, business development for sexual healers and educators, the intersection of traditional and modern methods of goddess worship and much more.

Please visit her online at:
ErikaBriones.com

Collective. Her mission is to spread stories of love and sexuality by collecting different views around the world starting with her Mexican heritage . She also aims to collaborate with other ethical and conscious brands like PMSbox. Erikaa’s passion is empowering heart-centered men looking to unlock sexual confidence at a level they never thought possible.

Erikaa has been featured on Kaleidoscope radio, and interviewed social media icons like Adina Rivers, Adam Roa, and Stef Stifanos. A few of her guest have over 200 million views on YouTube. Erika’s personal crucible story is of the “return of the joyful little girl” A typical story most women can relate too where they were victimized by incest. In Erikaa’s experience she was the joyful little girl til 1993 where the actual storm and metaphorical storm hit her life. That was the year she learned to become a woman. She was also put into a cult by a Freemason, and overcame severe trauma that affected her health and sexual confidence. In her late mid 20’s she was searching for an awakening. Little did she know Tantra, and BDSM lead her down the path of transformation. Now she motivates other to discover sexuality through a place of inspired-action and love. She is now living her dream life and healing others that they can also transform their crucible story into sexual liberation.

In the show we discuss:

  • occult sexual initiation and the conditioning she had to overcome
  • double life as a sex worker
  • dominatrix work in Beverly Hills
  • 1 in 3 live a sexual double life
  • the hero’s journey
  • how the character leaves the village, leaving the good girl for the family identity, then going on adventures
  • the discovery of bdsm, escort work, tantra initiation
  • going into the belly of the beast
  • fighting inner and outer battles
  • the experience of opening up and coming out the world about her path and mission
  • the path to becoming a sexuality coach
  • coaching men in sacred sexuality
  • how being yourself in the context of sexuality is pretty scary
  • you may not know who you are in the moment
  • your family might disown you
  • you may feel alone
  • starting out working in bad conditions in a dark hole in the wall
  • finding salvation at a local book store
  • finding friendship there
  • the Pretty Woman movie plot as a fantasy for many sex workers
  • the dream of being rescued by a white knight
  • owning slutness
  • finding a client who was a prominent actor
  • Cinderella meets the Prince, with a plot twist
  • her tantric initiation by a her client
  • discovering tantric prayer, sex magic, devotion to nature, mindfullness, meditation
  • feeling honored
  • her inspiration from a motivational seminar and her path to leadership
  • how we start out seeking a guru and eventually we become one
  • becoming her own guru
  • discovering yab yum and kundalini energy work
  • discovering breathwork and chanting
  • remember past lives, reawakening her inner ancient priestess
  • the power of the left eye
  • downloading info from your tantric lover to your hard drive, your soul drive
  • feeling that we’re all one, feeling union in the present moment
  • evolving past the archetype of the needy lover, seeking external validation through sex
  • growing into the mission to change the ancestor codes, change family patterns
  • the social purpose to end abuses, violence, etc.
  • the need to be congruent with what your speaking about
  • doing your own inner work
  • the role of journally
  • personal meditation practice
  • going to tantra festivals
  • not about being better, more about being different
  • becoming your own muse
  • doing your modality on yourself
  • overcoming the fear of speaking
  • fine tuning your messaging
  • coming from heart centered values
  • mature love, spirituality, how deep can we go down the rabbit hole
  • you must really do the inner work
  • recoding messages to your younger self and your future self
  • how to coach oneself
  • starting out on Facebook live, going from one viewer to 5, to a whole community
  • how can you help your clients more than just yourself
  • pop culture figures like Beyonce speak from the heart and turn people on
  • knowing your weaknesses and seeking help in those areas of your business
  • her 3 month sexual self mastery coaching container
  • positive feedback from her clients having lost weight, skin cleared, overcoming limitations
  • the king, warrior, and magician archetypes
  • discovering and developing your ideal future self
  • the importance of drawing upon ancient traditions of goddess worship to inform and empower modern goddess worship methods and practices
  • coming to know tantric goddesses such as Lakshmi, Saraswati, and Kali
  • embodying the essence and wisdom of goddesses at different points in your life journey
  • the more you awaken a woman’s imagination, the more her pussy will awaken
  • the experience of worshiping at a tantric temple in Venice
  • how men can worship archetypal goddesses with and through their beloveds
  • the role of prayer and self purification as prerequisites for worshiping ones beloveds
  • and more!

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin welcome to touch your Punk podcast episode number 189 I’m being joined by Erica Briones and she is a coach from the evolved masculine and founder of the sexy Soul Collective and she is got so much exciting stuff to tell us about today I’m really excited we met a while back now but we made it a really amazing event that was being facilitated and discussions about healing Sexual Healing sexual trauma and and different modalities that people are using two to really Empower themselves and each other and so that was sort of the context where I got to see and hear about some of her work and it’s very exciting the work she’s doing with men and helping to raise the Consciousness in that Arena and so we’re all about that here so I can’t wait to hear lots more about what you do Erica thank you for being on and please go take your time going in detail introducing yourself and telling us about to what makes all the beautiful and Magic happen thank you so much for inviting me I’m really excited I have been coaching sexual self-mastery practices and you’ve been part of the video series so it’s really amazing to connect the the body and video to your voice and really getting to know your philosophy and just really connect with what what lessons I can serve to your audience and I really believe that these lessons are to weaken our inner-spirit and really connect with our sexuality and embrace both the Shadow and the lights absolutely absolutely well thank you that is a blessing and honor to know I’m yeah definitely a giggly and curious I always feel that you know I was blushing I hear stuff like that cuz I you know sometimes put stuff out there that’s like a voice in the wilderness but then you know you hear back people that are having positive effects and whatnot so I appreciate that thank you and yeah I want to ask about your personal Journey where would you say this path began for you and your life this past weekend since I was a little girl so I always share the story and I feel like I’m at a point where I’m Shifting the intention of the story so I was initiated into sex through a Freemason who taught me how to be a woman and use different modalities from you know putting me in a white rest in a call call the Rainbow girls and he is some black magic sand pendulum some hypnosis and down the line I feared sucks I sawed sex is dangerous and deadly he told me if you tell anyone you will be a prostitute or you will be living in the dumpster so I started taking that on and kind of becoming the archetype that he created where I was jostle I was shutdown I was naive I did not speak my truth and I was not happy and that story followed me till even after college I got into the movie the secretary the secretary is the film about this woman who is a cutter and eventually she becomes a secretary and transmits her pain from cutting to being spanked and being a submissive in a BDSM contacts so that story got me into BDSM and I moved to Beverly Hills and I became of dominatrix except I was living a double life telling people I was a secretary and I believe that one in three people are living a double life and as the story continues you know my hero’s journey and I’d call this the hero’s journey because every hero’s journey according to Joseph Campbell’s work you know the character leaves the village right the character leaves the village and for me it was leaving my identity of being the good girl you know being everything I can for the family and then the next part of the movie is the part where the character you know goes on an adventure and for me that was discovering BDSM and getting into Tantra doing escort type work and coaching men and you know I’ve been looking and looking and looking for these guys or this a weakening and when they discovered going into the belly of the Beast so there’s another part 2 movie where according to the hero’s journey there is the rebirth part where the character finally go through the battle scene they’re doing everything to do the inner work because there’s two stories and every film there’s an inner story and there is an otter story the inner story of the interest the inner script is who am I am I good enough am I sexy enough I buy dressing sexy and really confronting our our ego so we’re really battling the in Rico and then there’s the outer seen that the outer movie which is like the actual physical components that relates to it for me that was starting to share on Facebook hey guys I’m coming out to the world and this is what I’ve done and sharing with my friends publicly and I’ve always been envious of gay men for you know opening up and I will say that it is a scary thing so that’s a minor movie was the belly of the Beast and eventually one side overcame the threshold then the next part is coaching and you know now it’s like hey I’m making this my lifestyle I’m traveling the world it just came back from was on this beautiful island for like a week and you know been featured on podcast now I’m on iHeartRadio and coaching like some amazing Man comic book writers lawyers doctors not doctors lawyers police officers you know screenwriters and being able to be me and being yourself and the context of sexuality is it spring spray because you get to leave the village and yeah there will be times when your family may disown you there may be times where you may not know who you are in that moment but if I can share this to that person who needs to hear it and they’re in their car crying like who am I like what am I supposed to do you’re not alone because I’m talking to the woman who was me back in 2013 1314 where I was at Barnes and Nobles and I just left the I was actually doing happy endings in La is like the dark like hole in the wall and it was like this office and just smell like cinnamon and my church was Barnes and Nobles actually in and go to Barnes and Nobles and I’m praying and like I need to talk to someone there was only one person and he ended up always yelling at me if I was like awesome you yelling at me this is so cool and he was the only person I talk to at the time but if this reaches that one person who needs to hear it may be there at Barnes and Nobles or maybe they’re sitting at home crying thinking like maybe I’m alone no you’re not alone so that’s a story for that person and that’s why I do it well that was an intense right and I also many of these these archetypes are coming to play for me and I’ve been hearing a lot of people talk about just the other the value of understanding these these storylines Anis archetypes for personal development and sounds like you have really gone to hell and back and have a lot of fun experience and the end I can hear it in your voice that you you come from a lesson power place to a much more Empower place and I’m curious if you could talk about was there a specific Catalyst for you that got you to rise into creating a brand and doing kind of getting into a leadership role and speaking out was there was there like a a if that was a scene in that in that that script you know if you will was there a certain kind of pivotal aha moment or wake up call or something where you had enough and you just shifted dramatically or was it more gradual I’m just curious if maybe still stuck you know it’s watching Pretty Woman and thinking maybe I’ll be saved by the white Knights and I’ll be doing these like I’ll be like this sexy escort sacred sexuality prostitute or you know like I’ve never said that before but by the time I was just I didn’t know who I was and I thought I was just you know us a slide and now I own my spot for me it was when I didn’t mean to like the wine and I’m still single I met a client who I was actually a very public figure actor Golden Globe winner and I can’t really say his name due to confidentiality reasons but it was that moment when Cinderella meets the Prince dancing and then she has to go but there’s a Twist to my stories like the clutch with the plot twist wasn’t hey he finds a shoe and then we you know when we get married and like everything is awesome like don’t we wish that we are always happy at the end no for me was like oh my God I had this amazing Tantra experience I fell in love with Tantra because of him we were in this amazing bubble of safety really talking about agreements boundaries desires I help my boundaries despite who his name was and I said this is who I am and you have to meet me here and he completely respected every boundary he made me feel intelligent he did not make me feel like a the sexual person he made me feel like I was honored by my mind set my my Heritage and my spirit and I was able to learn about his culture and I thought wow this is a very intellectual King archetype this is the type of archetype that girl’s dream of meeting right the new going to a red carpet or meeting someone who has a name but for me it was him marrying the woman that I am supposed to rise in to write this is the scene that every woman wants to get into that that makeover story that how I lost weight and now I’m here and now I’m you know traveling the world like we all want to live that life for me it was not as easy as I am at this amazing guy I this happened next which the next thing that happened was I went to a tailopez seminar and I’m laughing because like I don’t resonate with his work as much as I used to back then but that’s gross right like you grow from one thing and it pivots you to the next Mentor I didn’t give it to to the next mentor and we’re all looking at that that grew at the top of the mountain but eventually we become That Grew at the top of the mountain and eventually we start to continue our journey to other lessons so he basically does pivoted me to get my lesson of I can be my own brand I can also teach what my teachers teach to others so it was it was a it was kind of the Cinderella story needs Like A Knight’s Tale type story where you know they just like conquer the the dragon and they they make it and they win their victory for me that victory was firing a client who was actually actually my client she was a stripper she found me on Yelp and apparently I was just teaching her what I learn and she says oh my God you’re so amazing you’re changing my life meditating now I am leaving this work I am so much happier because of that and I thought that was the best the best gift I’ve ever received his hearing someone say you changed my life like no one can ever take that away as when someone says like you made my life better you make me have a reason to live and it’s all about validation is about you really want people to succeed as you really want people to feel like overcome their challenges and struggles question cuz what what a ride that was taped to hear about my imagination is is spinning and all this is I hope you are writing a manuscript right now if you haven’t already published your memory so you know however whenever you feel comfortable doing that it sounds very Redemptive and very a very amazing so that’s so if I understand correctly one of your as as a as an escort you were sort of them at a lower point you are not as thrilled about what you’re doing but you were able to through just perseverance get to that that sort of the point of of great Fortune where you were not just meeting the the shadow Prince Cena or the knight in shining armor but actually a man who is skilled in Tantra which is rare and then he was able to sort of do a tundra makeover on you while giving you full dignity and full empowerment to take ownership of the process and not being whatever made into a trophy arm candy kind of a whatever you know that that you because there are people who certainly would just be content just oh yeah look I made it to the dino to the big time but I’m still being demeaned or I’m still there still a sort of them a lack of growth happening but you have like sort of The Best of Both Worlds you got you did have that that man come in so could you if I if I’m if I’m understanding correctly could you talk a little bit more about the sort of without disclosing anything confidential course I’m super curious how Tantra is is sort of this functioning in in the minds of men in in in those Realms of society and in how they how they practice it and what they’re you know they’re their way of approaching the the Siddharth and Sciences if you could talk a little bit more about that like what was your first did you do you have your man have a Kundalini Awakening or what was the this week as I’m the gym and nut chapter back to that time where I can actually remember the yab-yum so before I got into the yab-yum I said hey this is my boundaries is my desires I mean it I had a desire to kiss them and they just want to be like straight up and we all and say like hey I also have feelings except there was an Integris that I said hey this is the ground rules except if you do have a request please let me know to see if I am open to doing that so that was something that taught me about humility so before we go into yab-yum we do this meditation that was actually inspired by Deepak Chopra we talked about water and the Alchemy of water in a meditation was incredibly catharsis and it was about really connecting to humanity like how can we connect with our sexuality to raise the vibration here in the planet for the environment for the animals and it sounds It is Well except I love what that can do for the environment you know being more aware of how you are mindful of plastic or you’re mindful of how you throw away your trash so we start to do this this very simple meditation that we bring her hands and center and we start to like slowly move that that energy and water is a sacral energy right like sex sexual energy is like that water energy that’s like moving up the spine of the heart do the throat and then up the crown and finally to the heavens so we start with that and then after that we just start doing we going to Yad diamandis we’re doing a lot of rest and breathing and chanting and somehow we just get into the Transcendence of like magic where I start to like remember password I have some Druid priestesses and it was really interesting because there was something in his energy that brought up a memory of a past life you know as if I was he was there to teach me about my Priestess years because the thing is with the with the left eye and this is something I’ve learned from another country guys the last died in Tantra brings in a lot of ancient wisdom and everyone has their own wisdom right everyone listens or their own contact their own you know their own subscriptions are on magazines are on newspapers like everyone has their own wisdom and die with them gets passed on to you energetically whether you know it or not on a soul level that person is transferring energetic memories into your hard drive into your soul Drive and so once you start to get that download then you start to understand like who you are like and we’re all one we’re all aligned and. Switch Hunter teaches is expansion to liberate expanding Consciousness by liberating but the past and future to be in Union to be in the present moment and when I was doing that that ceremony that’s when I started to really get Tantra and it was really connecting to his inner child to his past lives to his pain to his his dreams and I also was also feeling that that sense of inspiration that raw awareness that lit up my inner archetype this inner archetype that went from the weakling lover so the weekly in the lover archetype you know the shadow aspect of it is the weakling or the needy child like I want more I want this you know what I like I’m not good enough I’m not Central enough like so I need to start you know getting validation through sex for me it was like okay I started to come from that point in my journey except once I started being aware I said oh no my next step is to change the change the ancestor codes change the the way that my mother spoke to me and share this new medicine this new codes to my sister’s to my brothers are the people that need to hear this because they’re still domestic violence there still sexual abuse there still slavery there so sex trafficking and it’s not going to stop until more more voice is like like a collection of voices start speaking this truth cinematic everything you’re describing and you’re so beautiful I’m so glad that there was a connection with it the meditation bring into elements and seeing I’ve had experiences with train very highly trained meditators who do this I gave open eye meditation eye gazing kind of Pooja where it’s pretty much guarantee that sort of like a parlor trick but it’s real and they will get you know you could go around and rotate within a room and then the train meditator is is able to pierce you basically energetically very gently but basically first you go through these clouds of different colors in Mondelez and then boom you’re seeing into their past lives like snapshots of their past lives and then you’re sort of morphing and melting into so it’s this very the Continuum of both of past lives it’s it’s very palpable when you get into these these very intentional state so I’m glad you brought that up and and that’s certainly one of the more mystical mystical properties in and certainly this year released you really making a great case for why people should embrace this is spiritual technology of Tantra because if it does help you is very explicit how it’s helping you help you understand your your higher self and your higher purposes into not. You’re not to not take shit from life or even from yourself for what you think of yourself and that’s what I like that’s what I like to what’s the weather going to Skype with So yeah thank you for sharing all that and it’s really it’s really beautiful and and humbling and something that we were talking about downloading to the to the the the hard drive of of the Soul you know actually I could almost heard you say heart heart Drive which will give you a good one too I think that they will fit to so yeah I guess if we can I get fast forward a bit from that was your sort of tantric initiation Awakening and so you from from that moment you’ve really started to build this Maven type career out of sharing this wisdom and in switching people on to this this level of Consciousness do you want to talk a bit about what the on the more professional sort of more back to the physical plane part of it what is it what has it look like for you to establish a Brandon and get your all of your ducks in a row so to speak on on that the physical playing notes of Business Development people think marketing brand is what people say when you leave the room so it really comes down to thalia’s like before you know using canva.com before using Graphics logos Flyers like SoundCloud what you doing it all comes down to making sure that you are in alignment like in line with what you are preaching you have to be congruent so if you’re speaking about you know you’re the sex goddess are you doing this type of work on yourself are you doing the inner work are you journaling are you meditating are you you know going to Tantra festivals are you having deep conversations with people yes okay then the next step is like what makes you different it’s not about being better it’s about what makes you different how are you saying things that are different for me I like pop culture okay so I like films I like media and something that has helped me is a passion test this is like something you like one of my psychics basically before I got before we get into The Branding answer I I told you I was like I really want to see if I can meet my muse and she says well first of all you’re going to be you’re going to be amazed yourself you’re going to be speaking to so many people you know you’re going to be talking and I said oh no that’s just not going to happen I’m not going to public speak I’m not going to talk and before you know it I feel that go to seminars I do my own modality on myself and then it happens and then the next piece is like once you overcome your fear of speaking then the next piece is really fine-tune your messaging so right now I don’t have a script for you I’m literally just coming from values coming from my heart what are my values integrity mature love spirituality really getting into a waking consciousness how deep can we go to the rabbit hole right like if you think about people like Alan Watts or wrong. They do to her marketing are you been laying the the teachers before it’s like ascending Masters they just literally spoke a truth spoke it was spoken word and people said oh my God I really like what this guy is saying I’m just I’m like feeling so energized by the message I’m getting high off of that message right that’s that’s branding and it but before you get to that you must really go into the inner work whether whether you’re listening to ROM Dass on their way home or you’re listening to all and you’re having a cry for me it was talking to myself like recording messages to my my younger self For My Future Self and then listening to it over over and seeing hey how can I how can I overcome some of my limiting beliefs how can I coach myself how can I actually coach myself so once you get into that then then then you can think about like you know branding weather doing like getting on Facebook Facebook live and for me once I started that like I started doing Facebook live talk to one person from Australia and then became 5 and then I’ll have like my own like community and that takes time like it’s building relationships making sure that your relationships it’s coming from hard how can you help them more than yourself how can you be up service how can you how can you mirror them in a way that they get their the last in a lot faster it’s like you know every artist has their own way of doing things like when you look at Beyonce she sings from her heart she has her own politics and her own philosophy with matter is she empowering People Are People feeling Unleashed are people playing the music and they’re like oh my God I want I feel so turned on by this right like that’s the type of branding that you really does come down to the soul the soul is like about the values and professionally you know like yeah you can do I can I can definitely tell your audience like what to do is besides like getting to the soul of the matter the next piece is like making sure when you write have an editor like have someone edit your stuff in your writing make sure your grammar is on point I something that I know is my point is grammar communicating in a way that it lands for people like making sure you understand public speaking I-44 one have never taken a public speaking class except I know that it’s super super critical to make sure that you have an attention-getter that you know how to really like know how to write know how to speak know how to like really get a person to that to feel that the message cuz that’s what we want is to really push the pivot the person to empowerment inspiration to feel sexually aware my my heart drives is catching up to a lot of that to this is it sounds like you’re really you’re really positioning yourself to be as significant with the spiritual and personal development and sexual development relieved to be I mean they say they say Destin Garrick is the is the Tony Robbins of Tantra will maybe it to me I’m hearing that you you you seem to me like the female Tony Robbins of Tantra and I appreciate that because yeah sometimes people have door to woo woo or two business and I like the way that you’re talking about really this is fundamentals this to me it sounds like if you were talking to it as an athlete and in people ask what their secret is it and they said you know I do the fundamentals thousand times to know and that’s why I’m the best sport or that’s how I’m different if it’s not about being better so I think this is really good stuff this is really good empowering material for people who are who are out there now trying to to make develop themselves and then also have an offering so maybe it’s probably a good time now to talk about more in detail what it is that you offer what are some of the programs and packages and you know you don’t have to go into specifics if you don’t want to but just going to really what anyone listen to this would be signing up for if they join your newsletter or join your live stream or did private sessions or or group Retreats or or what not just get into the offering so we great yeah well first your audience gets free meditations on Soundcloud I offer a lot of content already there’s a I have my YouTube channel Attica Brianna’s official and I haven’t been developing much content and that’s going to change soon again I’m doing these amazing amazing meditations and that the other thing that I’m offering is the Freak podcast so if your community has some BDSM lovers out there then I have the the podcast project lock is on Soundcloud and basically I’ve interviewed a lot of experts can collagist sexologist there’s also a discount or free code so if anyone’s into BDSM and you’re free code is sexy soul and you get House of a success and it’s a luxurious leather company with a bucket of design and elements that’s very stimulating to the eye and it’s really great on the table has the cops if so awesome I love it. It’s amazing amazing Exquisite like top of the line design that your followers can have and ask for coaching I do have a three-month container for the sexual self Mastery course or do I have to stay like you’re part of that the whole video series so if you want to watch Ben Daniels naked and beautiful doing his Mastery you’ll learn how to kind of become this amazing sexual master and really know what that means for you how to really get into your body how to really be present how to really be an amazing lover so that’s one of my favorite courses I love it so much I’ve had clients that have said that they lost way their skin clear their sex Got a Way deeper than before and again that’s the sexual self Mastery course and of course my other favorite course is the evolved masculine path course to really get into your archetype based on king warrior magician so we get to play the game of really getting into you playing your your archetype so as a little kid if you remember having an imaginary friend do you remember having an imaginary friend well when you have friends but that’s another story and then as as an adult this is pretty much sure your archetype which is not not an imaginary friend it’s a completely different thing that really pivots you into the direction of your path whether you want to be an amazing comic book writer are you you have this Vision to be the best at what so I can I get you there so that’s what I do is if it’s a three-month container and I’m like so excited and if you want to connect with me just go to edika be honest I’ll come that is e r i k a k as in kinky a b r i o n e s.com awesome that was a great story audio brochure that you just shared and I would say this is something yeah we got about a good 20 minutes or so left so depending on how is she holding up as we get close to an hour but I would say it’s kind of open it if you’re willing if you’re okay to have me open it up to a little bit of of dialogue here what I’m very curious about is the how goddess worship from a tantric perspective differs from an and maybe in forms or is is that the the interplay between the standard sort of Orthodox femdom goddess mistress archetype and then the sort of more more ancient tantric goddess as as Divine deity Giver of blessings shamanic healer Mother’s Day of the universe and all that kind of stuff I’m curious if you what in your what would be some of your words about how and you’re mine and your heart and soul and all your chakras how you how you transmute and how you play with with these different archetypes cuz they are they are at the top of the Pyramid of all creation and everything is one but in the differentiated forms that we live in now there’s certainly some I was just calling diversity then how people approach goddess worship so I’m curious what you would what you would say from your experience of integrating those archetypes of the goddess it’s a really good question so for me the goddess archetype goddess worship really comes down to really knowing the goddesses so for me and Tantra I learned about Lakshmi kolli set of swathi Lakshmi is this beautiful goddess no bathing water and a lot of these essential goddess Venus goddess were just like you know last week was Valentine’s Day so this is like perfect timing so Venus was sensual and all of her glory in a lot of these goddesses there’s this one Goddess that I remember she like this empowered bitch goddess but all of them have a theme of like in pictures and portraits in art and literature you see them like emerging from water right so having them celebrating them in water so for me goddess worship should always start in water right I think about it when you heard like taking a shower don’t you get your best ideas and water like when you’re taking a shower like oh my God I have such a great idea or I’m taking a shower well that water is nourishing you that water is a listening all of your all of your ideas having babies some babies when mothers have a paper the baby they do it in water ceremony it’s right like so it’s like a way more easy for the for the pelvic and massaging the the pelvis in water so for me like Lakshmi represents that goddess archetype of Love sensuality play also she frames the way that she frames it is I own my sensuality I know that I’m a goddess I am this powerful amazing person I am receiving I don’t need you to go to your platform I don’t need to rise to anyone if anything she has a really strong connection to God to source to her ascending Masters you know she celebrates dancing she celebrates through playing your sensuality but she really tunes into the higher majesties the higher mystery and then there’s that a sweat bee that is swappi is the goddess of creativity and she’s all about like getting into wisdom you know like sulfur to really anchor into the goddess worship you must really anchor her into her intellect to her Psychic Eye to what is she curious about understanding in terms of spirituality like what is it like you have to listen to Alan Watts do you have to like ask her questions about her childhood talk about lucid dreaming the more you activate Her Imagination her her pussy willow weekend it’s been awhile since I’ve chanting mantras but it when I was working in the tundra temple in Venice actually California surrounded by this beautiful Lush bed with peacocks all around amethyst crystals you know having sunlight opening up I was already in my Lakshmi but for me when I was in my set of Swampy my positioning was the study version of me right the studying version getting into my creativity journaling talking about manifesting my dreams and then the other the other goddess is Kali Kali Ma he’s my one of my favorites when I’m feeling fear so if you can for the men out there if you can really respect her calling Mom and you can respect her and her soft know when you can respect her body language if you’re noticing that she’s looking down if you’re noticing that there’s some weird energy if you’re noticing weird energy immediately she’s trying to tell you that she wants to waken her collie law Sky Kalima energies at Fierce mother Warrior protector she’s like that BDSM Queens like okay I want you on your knees bow down to the creek and you just listen there’s no ands buts or you simply listened because she’s teaching you with your body and when you learned how to be how to submit to Kali then you learn more about Mercy you learn more about judgment you learn more about immortality of Greece Kalamata is the teacher of the Shadow she’s at she’s the elixir of poison she’s the Snake Charmer she knows how to charm the snake so when you start to like embody the philosophy of Kali Saraswati Lakshmi and um you understand that philosophy than when you’re with her in a tantra session you can you can add the water you know like bathe her and water Sarge all of her beautiful curves that you know really start with the really asking permission you know praying before the Yoni is it okay like if you can pray before the Yoni OMG if you can pray before the Yoni you are giving honor to her Lakshmi you’re giving honor to her locked me you’re saying Queen may I enter your temple may I honor like and you have the prayer pose to my favorite my favorite personal prayer is the Balinese way the Balinese pray with an empty hand near the forehead so yeah prayer is a big one in goddess worship and then you know adding flowers but before you even pray you have to really absolve yourself of your own Karma absolve yourself of your own physical stuff that has happened before you enter into her energy field and then you of course have a dialogue which is the combination of the fattest glossy and the caller and then you can choose to do whatever whether you do breast you know you cover her and Roses you play on some sweet music and you simply know how to really adore her and it really just comes to adoring her inner child really like honoring her Queen and and holding space for all parts of her it’s a lot of work also thank you you definitely have impressed me because I feel like there is a real lack of connection with the sacred sexuality and there’s almost like a a bias within King sometimes about how sacred sexuality is almost vanilla because it’s not brutal and a half or something. I would counter that that census of just people honestly I’ve heard Dom’s some Pro Dom say say that they were repulsed by even the word hearing the word Yanni made them a Denver Post because it just it just seems so well I would I can I would have to use my own words to say that there is this sort of some sort of a backlash against this more prayerful material but I would say in my estimation it’s the if the most powerful this you’re talking about the most powerful what I believe to be what I’ve experienced has to be the most powerful kind of ritual procedure ceremony you know session work you can you can imagine is is putting yourself invoking these these these Essences and his energies sand and speaking with them and communicating and being in service and that it’s almost like if if I can do a little bit of a sidebar here and just say my gripe that I have with some of the Kink world in the BDSM world is that it can get very egotistical very fast and and I’ve seen you know even put a proton women who I do I want to worship but that I see you know I’m I’m here I want to I want to worship the Divine and I feel like I’m looking at just a really over bloated ego and I want to I want to get a bug that and beyond that and what you’re talking about for me is like the the big yes send the big the nurturing you know we’re all just fingers pointing to the Moon here we’re all just hoping to Aspire to be in communion with the Divine energies and and this is what it takes what you’re saying in my in my in my estimation is that you know this this sort of humility and the sort of procedure and the offerings and that is going back to the Town Creek methods of worship that are are are not so much not so much about the the torture chambers and in the market aside and the leather although I’m not demonizing those things I will say that they’re all part of everything is mama you know I sound level if you want to put it that way if you know but I just want to really really take a moment to from from my framework and not to project anything I’m saying on to you or anyone you work with her or anyone from that scene but I will say it is such a breath of fresh air to find women who are doing Dom work who are working with these practices it’s a real breath of fresh air so that was my that was my public service announcement and my sword editorializing there but yeah the more the merrier with that so thank you think one of my intentions is do events this year where I teach my own way of fusing Tantra and BDSM maybe you could be a devil model yes for sure I’m I’m open to anything and I feel like I live my life like that scene in Fight Club where it where Tyler Durden is getting bludgeon by the the mobster you know in the basement when they’re they’re trying to basically trying to break up their their underground boxing ring and I think they’re doing it for profit but really they’re doing it for Spirit and the way for for Brad Pitt to communicate that really to the world cuz that the whole movie was it was a ton trick Buddhist Treatise that was like a whole country scripture if people don’t don’t get that really go back and watch Fight Club and see this is like the the Divine masculine trying to break free from from the poison of patriarchy and that’s how I see it I’m like that I can I will take on the the pain of the feminine and I will you know D A I can be a masochist in and work with the energy and then let it flow in the in the fact you know you can see footage online on YouTube a lot of the Kali temples around the world the way that the that the computer is the priests and priestesses will and unfortunately in these days because of patriarchy it’s it’s it’s been skewed towards a priest class so there’s a lot of Kali temples in a world where it is a male-dominated profession to be a shamanic healer at the Kali Temple invoking the Shakti of collie and the Whippet the way that they will I have my own issues with that of course but it is interesting that something some of the things that they would do and you would appreciate this as a Dino from doing down work is that in order for the crowd of beleaguered glasses to come in and really believe that the priest is actually holding the power of the goddess and actually is invoking her left fully he will endure these these ordeals of getting whipped on an in and basically being flogged and whipped to prove that you can be kind of slashed with these whips on the on the on the forearm and have there be no marks and and show no pain and so that is sort of the the guarantee or the proof in the pudding that that that priest is doing the work to be imbued with her energy and so if she can take this abuse and not be crying or or cowering in the face that abused and then he’s qualified to to go in and hunt your demons you know and pull them out and unless you go about your way is it he did it’s fascinating to watch the footage of the stuff it’s no joke I mean it looks it looks like a dungeon in a Weird Al seeking I think the same the Same Love in the same healing at some level so that was that was enough for me but yeah we’re wrapping up here at are about about an hour or so would you like to take the floor and share anything else really make a call to action how can people connect with you how come people Debra Lee directly to get in contact with you and any words you like to share anything else you’d like to yatted to talk about before we before we get to call today the type of audience you have but I do want to say that a book that has really healed my my journey has been the book Urban Tantra by Barbara Corrales and I know that there’s like my intention like what my my vision is to help as many girls as possible to go from the Dark Side of the industry you know like working at massage parlors in because of focus esta this lot that’s really really an entrapment to teaching women to be sacred sexuality Educators to go from living to start double life where you’re you’re feeling on the edge you’re feeling like there’s going to be a risk involved maybe you’re going to have to see a client because you have to pay the rent and your trade in your like this is the only thing I have and you have to like you know basically fight and you don’t have to fight you have to really invite you to soften the Cena and so I’m like I guess like right now I’m speaking to the women that have had that shame and so my call to action is for women to really really awesome sells how how long am I going to be sick and tired of this story how long am I going to be living in the shadow of my life or am I willing to you know grab a flashlight and go to the other side and actually see that there is Beauty on the other side of the dark and you know if you have to call me and I or message me you know you could have easily go to sexy Soul Collective on Instagram or you could go on my website any guy, and we can have a chat really just like really connect virtually over coffee or tea and really see like how can we really support each other and if it means that you sign up for 3 months I’ll be great like my dream is to really Empower women to really overcome their you know overcome this and I love seeing women empowered but mostly the men that I have work with like I also see that they’re starting to like rise up against their masculine going from the broken Soul lost soul to empowered King owning their magician knowing their lover and having a really balance within all their archetypes by putting down your sink whether if your a guy who wants the last pain you’re like I just want to hustle my way out of the intimacy then that’s my client but mostly it’s because I want people to like wake up to their dreams that’s beautiful wake up to your dream that is that’s it has M Cohan right there you can forget about one sound one the sound of one hand clapping or does it visit tree falling make a sound that is that is a beautiful meditation right there to the end within and I will say if I could add a couple of sites here would just be that there has been an Exquisite pleasure and I feel like I feel like we’ve known each other a lot longer than then then we technically have known each other in this lifetime and and hopefully you have beautiful things will come forth from this conversation and just a big a big thank you again for this opportunity to just show your work and I look forward to the next time I’m sure just it’s always an open channel of communication if you have stuff you want to promote or talk about or anything in the future you want to share with your audience then by all means do that so yeah thank you so much again for your time and Namaste thank you blessings BWW. 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