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Peace Magic and Truth Healing with Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern TPP249

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In this episode I’m joined again by my favorite Tantric scholar Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern for another adventure in tantric studies.

About Thomas:

Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern B.A. (Hons.) PGCE. D.SC. (Hon), PhD. is a philosopher, historian, teacher, poet, author, lecturer, musician, thinker, educator, consultant and peace studies specialist. His academic background includes degrees in European and world history (with political philosophy) and religious education, plus a long period of intense personal study in philosophy, religion and the history of ideas – together with over 30 years teaching experience in the same fields. He has also trained and practised in conflict management within communities and schools, specialising in multifaith and multicultural mediation. He is also a trained and experienced teacher in secondary schools, specialising in philosophy, religious education, history and citizenship studies. He was awarded his PhD from the University of London for a thesis which explores the history of the search for peace from 1945-2001 and which proposes a new field of historiography, Transpersonal History, as the best way to establish a rigorous discourse on peace among rival and contending spiritual and intellectual traditions, currently battling for hegemony on the planet. He is an expert in research techniques and methodologies on all aspects of history, religious studies, the history of world philosophy and transpersonal psychology. He has lectured in peace studies, philosophy and religious studies for many years at the Universities of London and Oxford, and has spoken twice at the UN Headquarters about the role of Universities in changing the climate of fear and violence on the planet to one of trust and wisdom-seeking. He is a founder and coordinator of International Philosophers and Historians for Peace and has worked with philosophers and intellectuals from many countries worldwide to help establish intellectual and spiritual networks for peace and goodwill. In 1990 he was elected in Moscow as Coordinator of International Philosophers for Peace, a specialist body of philosophers worldwide searching for peace and international understanding.

He is Director of the International Institute of Peace Studies and Global Philosophy (IIPSGP) which works across many academic fields to bring together all those with an interest in and a commitment towards the study of peace and philosophy on all levels of the personal and global and to applying the qualities of love and wisdom to the resolution of the problems and tensions of today’s world. IIPSGP arose out of a feasibility study which Thomas undertook for the University of London into the proposed establishment of an Institute of Peace Studies (from 1989-1992). IIPSGP now operates as an autonomous Institute with members scattered worldwide. Thomas is also Founder of The Global Green University, which has arisen from the work of IIPSGP and was launched in 2000 as a pilot project in complementary higher education, to bring into being a new global higher education initiative which can provide space for the deeper kind of learning which we believe is needed at this time of critical transition in the history of planet earth.

Thomas has developed long term educational programmes to widen understanding of the causes of conflict and approaches to peace and to assist social and cultural development. He has also created, (in association with the Gandhi Foundation and the World Conference on Religion and Peace), the Multifaith and Multicultural Mediation Service. The M.M.M.S. is the first mediation service to specialise in disputes in which issues of faith and/or culture are present. He has also served as an educational adviser to numerous organisations including the UN and UNESCO. He has travelled widely in India and has visited 8 times, travelling throughout the country and meeting academics and spiritual seekers. He has extensive knowledge of Indian religious and philosophical teachings and has proposed the formation of an Indian Union Mediation Service to prevent conflicts in the entire sub-continent. He is a lay member of the Anglican Church, as well as a practicing Druid elder, Qabalist, Sufi, Yogi, Tantric and universal mystic with an extensive knowledge of all world religious and philosophical traditions. He served as educational director of the Gandhi Foundation with the late Surur Hoda, and as Secretary General of the World Conference on Religions and Peace (UK and Ireland) from 1990-1997 attending and contributing to many of its international conferences in Rome, Vienna, Sweden and Paris. As an ecumenical esotericist and universal mystic, he has also spoken at Theosophical, Anthroposophical and other esoteric organisations and networks worldwide, and helped convene the Network of Wisdom Schools at the Theosophical Society headquarters in London in 2000 for Sancta Sophia Seminary. He has spoken in Edinburgh to the Edinburgh International Festival For Middle Eastern Spirituality and Peace on several occasions, running a workshop there on the Esoteric Dimensions of Peacemaking in the Middle East, focused on his book The Qabalah Runes. He has lectured in the USA on various occasions, including at Sancta Sophia Seminary, as well as at Findhorn in Scotland and the Edinburgh and Israeli Theosophical Society.

Please visit his websites at:
https://thomascloughdaffern.wordpress.com/about/
http://www.educationaid.net/
http://globalgreenuniversity.com/

 

LETTER FROM EUROPE – by DR THOMAS CLOUGH DAFFERN – MARCH 2020

I was asked to supply a monthly update from Europe on developments in peace, nonviolence and geopolitics etc. Here, we have been watching events in India unfold with some perplexity. Since I was recently in Delhi for the International Conference on Peace and Nonviolent Action that Rajasthan Patrika reported on in December, I thought I would supply an update. Our Youth Wing, for the World Intellectual Forum, that we set up in Delhi, recently issued a declaration that is important, regarding the recent chaotic street battles in Delhi, that bring so much sorrow to all who love India here in Europe and throughout the world. Therefore I hope that readers of Rajasthan Patrika might like to see what we said.

DECLARATION ON NONVIOLENT INDIA – WORLD INTELLECTUAL FORUM – YOUTH WING

In December 2019 we founded in Delhi, the World Intellectual Forum Youth Wing. This was during the International Conference on Peace and Nonviolent Action organised by Anuvibha, the international Jain peace organisation founded by the late Jain Saint Acharya Tulsi, based in Jaipur, which works for a nonviolent world. Already in December some restlessness on the streets of Delhi had started as a result of the Citizenship Amendment Bill legislation. Now in February 2022 the situation is escalating, Many people in Delhi are scared that unless this violence is stopped it will only get worse and worse. We are reminded of the tragic riots that happened in India when the British left in 1948 and rioting like this between different religions broke out in Calcutta. It only ceased because Mahatma Gandhi had the courage to go there to fast to the death unless it stopped. Fortunately Muslim and Hindu leaders were able to get their people to stop fighting with Gandhi to lead them.

So now, in February 2020, on behalf of the Youth Wing of the World Intellectual Forum , we want to say to our dear friends, young men and women and teenagers of Delhi (and other citizens in India) that

1) we are all first and foremost human beings – whether we are Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Christians, secular, no matter what party we belong to, or what God we pray to – so let us treat each other always with respect and reverence and kindness

2) It is vital for young people to break the cycles of violence that we inherit from the older generations. Let us not perpetuate these outmoded wars between Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Christians etc that have been going on for millennia. Ours is a new generation and we have the power to begin the world anew, to start a new story, of peace and prosperity in India, if only we refuse to be recruited to these old narratives. Let us instead respect all religions, and let us study together their pitfalls and their glories, just as Akbar did in his days, or theosophists did in the time of Mahatma Gandhi. This tolerance and great mindedness is the true India we know and love.

3) The vital genius of India’s contribution to the world’s civilisations has always been in her philosophical depths – in Sikhism, in Jainism, in Buddhism, in Hinduism, in Islamic Sufism,, in theosophy, in Gandhi’s ahimsa movement etc, and this is the India we wish to reawaken and therefore we appeal to the young people of Delhi – Let us not get involved in these conflicts on our streets ! These are not our fights. Our fight is the true inner jihad towards knowledge, towards wisdom and towards true love. We can show our dislike for the government laws such as the Citizenship Amendment Bill nonviolently, by out-thinking our political elders, and coming up with better, more peaceful ideas.

4) We appeal likewise to the police and the army – protect the weak and innocent and do not take sides. In communal violence like this everyone is a victim, so you must be scrupulously neutral and try and stop all the fighting. The state of Indian is by law a secular state with the judges, police and army sworn to uphold the rights of all Indians to go about our daily lives in peace and safety. We appeal to your as professionals not to make this situation worse but to smooth over these difficulties and restore peace.

5) We appeal to the government of PM Modi likewise to cancel his order of 3 billion dollars to the USA for weapons and killing machines and instead, use this money for peace education, nonviolence training, for putting classes on mediation and consensus building and civic awareness into every school in India. Let our children and young people learn about the glories of each other’s’ spiritual and intellectual heritage – let us be proud of the generations of great scholars, saints and sages India has produced in all faiths – and let us not allow a climate of fear, distrust or racial or religious superiority to creep into our national character.

6) At our founding conference in New Delhi we heard from leading experts of nonviolence education and training that there is way for people to learn to overcome violence. Experts came to India from many countries around the world and shared their practices and expertise. We want the youths of India to learn these skills, how to master difficult emotions of vengeance, hatred, jealousy, fear etc. and how to replace them with love, compassion and skinless – and this should be for all Indians, whether we are Muslim, Jain, Sikh. Zoroastrian, Bahai, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, secular or whatever. Peace is the birth right of everyone on earth and everyone in India.

7) We urge that the government of India therefore authorises training in nonviolence as part of the educational right of every Indian school and university student – and we pledge to work with young members of all political parties in the Indian parliament to make this happen. We urge that an emergency meeting of MP’s take place in the Raj Sabah to hear from us and listen to our demands that India restore our default position of peace-ability. We used to be the mecca of the world for all who love nonviolence, and this violence on our streets now is shaming our heritage and our true good name.

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

6 months since we spoke, a lot going on

comparative philosophy, see the job as medical doctor, very interested in medicine

tantra, buddhist/hindu argued before we can reach enlightenment we have to have health

enlightenment is spiritual health

planetary outbreak of dis-ease

ease is health, got this disease going on

occupied with coronavirus outbreak, from metaphysical perspective

tantra mutual healing

never gonna get healing unless we get through

tantra, tan = extension, tra = truth

truth is the transcendental principle that unifies opposites, also in word three

when conflict, the third principle, the threesome goes beyond and creates truth

situation on planet, all these conflicts,

watching impeachment

britain totally polarized over brexit

deli, we think of india as a place of tantra, love, but rioting gangs of youth

metaphysics of tantra, the transcendental reconciliation of opposites

problem on planet, politicians not capable of telling the truth

truth is whatever advances there party or position or keeps them in power

suffering from a truth deficit

chinese outbreak, wuhan

mainstream documentary, australian television had a crew in wuhan, outbreak of corona virus

interviewed people, documented outbreak

what’s revealed is pretty shocking

first case december 1st, thought normal pneumonia, then a few doctors realized a problem, lots of cases, more than normal

created a chat forum, people started dying, realized it was serious

tried to share case histories, secret police came in and arrested the doctor

clamped down on sharing of information, suppressed it, delayed medical response

police tried to sweep it under the carpet

not gonna get healing unless with get truth sharing

china, truth is what the party says

whole thing began to spiral out of control

documentary on youtube

1000s of cases started coming, people just lying down on the street to die

filmed, like in a plague, whole city, size of San Francisco had to go into lock down, sealing doors, curfew, hospitals staff going crazy, full of patients, no treatment for it

documentary is scary everybody walking around with masks, people in white suits picking bodies off the street

that’s happening now as we speak

historical place of taoism, wisdom traditions for centuries

what caused it, it looks like, scientists haven’t agreed on this

australian team, isolated the virsus, done gene sequencing, looks like a virus that came from bats, it can’t come into humans, it came through a medium, another mammal, theory goes, meat market, somebody handled infected animal

what’s weird, virus is combination of two things, bat virus but spliced with something like the hiv virus, replicating faster than normal virus

man made, 900 meters from meat factor, research with other colleagues, someone in bio lab, selling off old meat, man made weapon, a biovirus, leaked into human species, now going all around the planet, find that shocking beyond words

the chinese scientists have to come clean about this, have to own up, sorry we made this thing, have to get together with scientists in the states

however this is the crunch time for humanity, if we don’t do the truth sharing, if they deny it

other theory this is just a random mutation, statistics of that are millions against that

no its artificially created, trouble is, society there’s a truth scarcity, we’re not getting the facts

live in total fear, that’s the kind of symbol of where we’re at as a planet

symbolism of these masks, afraid to touch each other, complete opposite, of sharing, loving, compassionate togetherness of truth

through truth

TP: peace with nature? Learn hard lessons, silver lining

TD: there should be such a huge revulsion against military industrial complex, this might be the catalyst for huge change in china, secrecy of communist state, ruling the people with iron fist, not allowing information to circulate, if it turns out they actually made it, cause for change in china

might be silver lining, there are brave people speaking out

story of how it came it be has been smuggled out of china

send compassion to all the people who are suffering

truth auditing of our own lives

of our relationships, are we with the right person, do we share truth with them

not contributing to that fog of lies

want to share a teaching, doing a commentary on a buddhist scripture, buddhist tantra was my open to all this in my early 20s, studying at university of bristol

quote from early scripture, translation, core biblical equivelant:

path to dharma, the essence of truth

basic truth of buddhas noble truth, our thoughts our mentation, arise out of impure thought, greed, who’s ever inventing weapons like this, they must be demented, horrible weapons

not it’s information warfare, each state invested in internet hacking against other countries, impure mind, if we go on doing that, suffering follows

that’s the bad news

we know that in our own lives, difficult relationships, whole of life takes on tone of suffering and pain, don’t want to go to work

we need to start to act and think and speak with pure mind, and then joy will follow us, as our own shadow

I would say to all the people who work in the defense industries, oligarchs, spin doctors, those are the demonic forces we’re up against, the only way to turn this planet around, is to apply the tantra of pure mind, that’s what I’ve been working on for the last few months

musing on how we can do that

I’ve just published a book, encyclopedia of druid studies, going back to paleolithic time, magical systems called druidry, handed down orally just like tantric tradition

3 volumes 11,000 pages, years of work

druidry and hinduism, kabbalah, tantra

latest research by academics and practitioners

William Jones, welsh scholar, went to Calcutta 1780s, head of legal service in Bengal, learned sanskrit, realized it was similar to welsh, latin, greek, persian, coined the term indo european

realized we’re all the same people

it’s been a secret oral tradition, the other thing that interested me, they were the peace makers of the tribes, when wars broke out they would try to mediate,

the magi, what I’ve been thinking about, what we need is a new branch of magic, which I’m calling peace magic right, all kinds of books on magic, different occult things, we need to apply all that to peace work

a book on peace magic, a lot of tantric type meditations, visualizations, drawing on that work, we need to get a whole new generation of people actually practicing, their own magical potential for peace, dedicating that energy to peace work,

that is the resistance of our time, against forces that seek to separate us

TP: describe a working?

TD: first book, 50 different practices, dealing with different aspects of reality, section on energy of animals, shamanistic way, earth elements, section on time, the magic of time, how you can work with that, sections on relationships, love sexuality, how you can activate through sexual experience

each one has got a key thought, an image to work with, an actual exercise, you can do with yourself alone, or with a consort, it varies on what the different practices are,

banishing ritual on nuclear weapons, drawing on black magic in a creative and loving way, heavy invocations

black magic in a technical way, egypt, people of the eye is black, black is a very holy color, black magic was the land of egypt

talking of alchemy, the founder of alchemy, egyptian lived 200ad, panopolis, south of cairo, holy city, studied all kinds of esoteric stuff, he put all this stuff together, invented alchemy, the black arts of egypt, wrote a book on the meaning of the alphabet, sounds, the mantric sound, the guru gives the initiate, absorb self into sound current, go into the sound current of the cosmos, these sounds come from the gods, we’re spoken into being by the sounds of gods

if we can purify our minds, we can purify this world

fallen into a dark dream, alpha conquest, all they care about is there ego, not their power over their own shadow their own darkness

TP: ecological romance,

TD: forest, fruit trees, france, people live very simply, little villages, hamlets since the 12th century, slow easy pace of life, I love rural france, still got that old magic, full of mystery hear

let me tell you a bit about what I’m doing in delhi, conference organized by jain community, advocate non violence, gathering of all different faith, hindus, leading educators in non-violence, a guy who runs a sustainability lab, people from russia

I was an academic coordinators, quite a high powered conference, tragedy going on, jain part of delhi, yet a few miles away protest, riots, asked what’s going on, learned that this is all to do with the indian government, citizen amendment bill, anyone living next to india, border lands, if they want to apply to live in india, they can as refugees, hindu nationalist ideas, india for hindus instead of mother land of all faiths

muslims protesting, making them not feel welcome in india, in india very advanced sufi traditions, muslim scholars who took zero from india, made possible all the maths that they use, fusion between indian hindu and buddhist ideas, sufi spirituality, singing

this narrow minded faction in parliament, anti-muslim law, 200 million muslims in india, started rioting in the streets, since I left that was a few weeks ago, it’s got much much much worse, running street battles, people being killed, hindu and Muslim mobs looking to kill

amazing, next generation, doing brilliantly, issued a declaration calling on youth, because it’s young people roaming around in mobs, they don’t know apart from violence, issued declaration, calling on young people to basically not inherit the conflicts of the former generations, hate, goes on and on and on, like this in ireland, it’s time for this youth to say enough, I don’t want want your karma anymore, I’m a planetary citizen, trying to elevate that violent energy into the wisdom

TP: post national, digital citizen ship

TD: citizen of the cosmos, nation, where you’re born, comes from latin, that’s just where you happen to be born, I’m a Canadian if you want, earth citizen

rebirth process, have to elevate our identity to a higher level, grow up, not quit with you on the planet may go down, earth custodian, go this planet for another hundred million years, this planet can remain as an incarnational field for human life experiences, it will become too hot, life wont be sustainable

if we want, we’ve got it for a hundred million years, gives us enough time to solve our problems

druid gave torch of liberty to america, loved the american dream we want you to live up to it

we believe in that torch of liberty, each generation has to re-light it, not give in to dystopian negativity, drugged up, to disempower us

intellecting

TP: magical offering

TD: nature is the great alchemist, doing the work all the time, that’s why buddha sat under a tree to reach enlightenment

final bardic offering

educationaid.net

 

Debunking Religious Propaganda with Devika The Techy Tantrika TPP226

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In this episode I’m joined again by dear friend and tantric comrade Devika the Techy Tantrika for a review of the anti-Hindu, anti-yoga, anti-tantra religious propaganda film “Gods of the New Age”. We share notes on how we feel it is the like the Reefer Madness of tantra, and almost a classic satyrical mockumentary. Beyond the hilarity, we explore the importance of critical thinking and anthropological rigor in the study of culture and while comparing religions. I also express that I feel it has great value as a teaching tool to help future tantra seekers understand legitimate critiques of historical corruption within the tradition and movement, though with a healthy skepticism of the motives and bias of the film’s producers.

Check out our first episode for more info on her personal backstory:

https://tantrapunk.com/open-source-intimacy-with-devika-the-techy-tantrika-tpp131/

About Devika:

Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.

You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika

Follow her Instagram at:
http://www.instagram.com/thetechytantrika

You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com

Trick and Treat: Decoding Halloween with Devika the Techy Tantrika TPP219

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In this episode I’m joined again by Devika the Techy Tantrika for a Halloween themed show where we explore cross-cultural approaches to the spirit world beyond the veil of waking consciousness. We discuss the phenomenon known as “black tantra” and compare notes on how concepts of good, evil, occultism, and more are dealt with in various tantric traditions. We look at the degradation of spiritual intelligence in the modern world, and the implications of turning your back on the spirit world. We question the notions of dark and black as negative and take a less dualistic perspective on the diverse natures of demons. Our discourse on the mystery of the dark goddess Kali leads to an effort to understand and decode the famed history of sacrificial practices. I share a few sensational headlines from the Indian press on scary stories of gurus practicing business as usual black magic to help remind the neo-tantra “bliss bunnies” that patriarchy has plundered the more feminist ethics of ancient shaktism.

About Devika:

Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.

You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika

Follow her Instagram at:
http://www.instagram.com/thetechytantrika

You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com

Wisdom for Practicing Ethical Magic with Michael Bonner TPP186

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In this episode I’m joined by my new dear friend Mike Bonner for a discussion about ethical magic, sex magic, consciousness, love, fantasy, romance, pansexuality, and much more.

 

He does a beautiful job laying out both fundamental and advanced concepts for navigating the color spectrum of magic. He also provides very practical down to earth skill sets and tools for keeping your magical practice on a healthy course.

 

This episode I know will stand as a perennial resource of wisdom to help up and coming seekers avoid the many pitfalls that result from unchecked egoic tendencies in all areas of life. This is a true gift of heart purification!

 

About Mike:
His super power is to help others discover their own personal power and awareness and claim it, through magick, psychology, nature, tantra, and self exploration. Bonner has been studying and practicing magick, tantra, and psychology for over 15 years.

 

 With the help and teachings of shamans, spiritual guides, gods & goddesses, psychologists, therapists, unbridled and fearless self exploration and pure beings in his life, to empower his journey of discovery for himself and others.

 

Connect with Mike at:
mikebonnerhair (at) gmail (dot) com
instagram.com/mikebonnerhair
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 186 I am doing an episode with a new dear friend of mine Mike Bonner who I’ve connected with my social media and is he’s been a listener and fan of the show and we have so much in common I was a long time coming to get this podcast done and we will be many more forthcoming I’m sure you will fall deeply madly in love with all of his wisdom and insights and really enjoy the subject matter which is really foundational to averting catastrophe and and and staying on course for a really beautiful magical manifestation of all kinds so yes again I hope you enjoy and namaste find and reach their own personal strength and power and to be better solves I did a lot of self-discovery over the years it just slipped through a lot of different different I guess variables you can say like through magic to Tantra through I just communicating with people also just kind of going back to my younger years just kind of you know I know that you come from a Punky background and I was in that as well with some coffee stuff and all this kind of such my grandmother had a son used to do this all the time when I was kid so I watched them to all these things and it was really intriguing and I knew that they were actually doing something because I actually didn’t really know what they were doing it’s like seven or eight years old that I care I don’t I don’t mess with anything dark like that I practice a lot of Earth Magic and Sex Magic white magic things like that just trying to use all that energy that I get to build in there and get to like thrusting into creativity that goes into music or I also do hair I do have a barber and a hairdresser and so a lot of it comes out that way and that was also a way that I discovered I guess kind of what I can do for people on they told me that I helped them a lot and I did I I didn’t realize what I was doing at the time when I was working on my client says as a new Barber and hairdresser I just was a very curious person and I wanted to basically just kind of find out everything about the person that I could not in a creepy way either I just felt that the interaction was so personally it’s a vicious open up to you so I I I tried to listen even even even now I’d like to try to listen as best as I can to what people are actually saying whether it be through their words or their body language cuz I believe both are and I think they’re both equally as important I think we’ve all been sitting in front of somebody when they’ve been saying something on their words you know are coming out but their bodies actually saying something else not just desire to me is a real test connection I think within that person solves so I started noticing that another people then I started asking myself is you know I was doing these things too and so I just started to really look into that and also what people were telling me about you know I could see them and work on conversations go away for a month or two or whatever it was and they live out you know this thing that we talked about her and that’s when people say thank you so much I guess I never really thought about it until that point and that’s kind of as a young adult I’d say about 19 or 20 so I started looking more into the different types of Magic the different types of Tantra which I didn’t realize I was already doing all so you know people have this really funny way of how they think about Tantra the nights I think a conversation for another time cuz that’s a whole other topic I guess that’s that’s really my intro all that all sounds very good to me thank you for sharing that apologies for some of the background noise right now but I know are so we talked about it before one of the reasons why I wanted to say hey we should talk about this around feel like something has been missing as far as really laying a solid foundation for what different best practices of ethical magic really are and what some of the the the core principles that people may may be overlooking and just anybody who is sophisticated it has a long-standing practice study and expiration going to various traditions and they’re all that always intrigued me so I love to hear you help us understand some of the 101 aspects of what it means to even embarked on the path of empowering yourself to feel that you’ve been you could achieve magical powers to help with whatever comes to mind if you call yourself different terminology for magic and basically I people can call themselves whatever they like forgot my my what I believe are the real foundations of magic is accountability and responsibility I think those are two very very very strong pieces of the foundation that also translate into into life. I think but when you’re actually practicing magic you know if you’re going to set out to do some kind of ritual or spell whether it’s something that you want to do of your own making and will or you know of something that’s that’s been around for a while or whatever is the intention you have to have to State your intentions first and foremost it’s one of them what’s important things to do even before creating a Sacred Space in a circle for yourself on I like to start there it can take 10 seconds or I can take 10 minutes or longer it is whatever you want whatever your intention or your intentions are super super clear and just try to be really specific and remember that accountability and responsibility the second thing I think you have to do always right after Arby’s just asked for protection whatever it is you like to call upon whether it’s God or gods or goddesses or deities or you have specific helpers that you like to use Envision yourself in some way than protecting you or something of what I what I like to do is basically I I I surround myself in the circle of these big Rose Bush’s basically with these big thorns and these really really sturdy branches and he’s really beautiful roses and everything from the outside can almost see him that’s that’s what I do and I think that’s really really really really have to start so set your intention ask for your protection and pretty much from there on you can start so you can create trade environment I would say either that’s what I like to do if I have the time on the fit something big that you want to put a lot into whether it’s something that you’re manifesting or or celebrating or whatever it is that you’re doing you’re looking for some answers you know what whatever that is you like also candles or Pinot pillows and blankets or whatever is going to make you comfortable to make you feel is going to be I really actually love to to listen to dancing dance select Lisa Gerrard, magic and you said is my soundtrack goldfrapp for me is another one and she’s an insanely powerful witch and and gives us spells and rituals in front of our faces visually and and threw her words and people don’t even realize it so I’d that’s kind of what I like to do when I have the time to spend on relief. Like I said I know you’ve talked a lot about how important it is to open up chakras and it is really important to do that through the kind of ducks are doing a breathing and end this is really really really opening every single cell and poor and hair and everything in this body that work together because we’re meant to experience a lot of different things and then people are are afraid they’re afraid of everything and it’s it’s actually quite a shame that so many people lives in fear of of change of fear of themselves exterior of identity which I think there is a huge lack of these days you know what social media being so so big and what it is you know I know it’s obvious to state that you know it’s a Time suck her and it’s you know all it does is it really makes people feel bad about themselves and in technology you know we’re more connected today than we ever were and we’re also super disconnected. Only with ourselves but with everything else around us you know I really believe I really do believe that there are three types of people and I think I’ve I’ve talked to you about this before been in the world there’s they’re really honestly I’ve tried to break this down to the most simple simplest form and inform me like I said the three types I think that are out there are aware people people like us people who are trying to be better through our mind body and spirit helping ourselves helping each other helping the environment helping everything Universe all that kind of stuff you know we have to be aware of the soldiers I don’t know how else to tend to say that and then we have the masses who are basically just these zombies these are the people you know that are walking off cliffs to get a picture of walking into the streets and they’re just you know they’re consuming and they’re they’re literally eating each other’s faces while we are standing right in front of them and they have no real awareness that there are doing this they’re just sort of this spoon-fed weird overgrown lump is of sorts in now and I don’t know if there are any if there if there’s any help for that. The masses you know which I like to call the zombies and then let’s just let’s go for the 3rd I believe that the other ones are vampires vampires and those are the parasites up there those are the people that just really latch on I mean it is what it is it’s a vampire is Parasite you know we’ve all come across the state if they want to suck you in and they they need to suck you into all that they created the but are you know I just I basically don’t really pay a lot of attention to that eventually they just get bored and move on so that’s kind of how I died deal with that I guess since we’re talking about three years cuz three such powerful number another another thing that I really believes and is that we have three different brains and I know we talked about this before I made you laugh about this but I do believe that we have three different brains one is our head which is the the Periscope with the feeding tube attached to it if you remember correctly. I just we can go on and on about it you know for all of our logic blocks us from a lot of things and it it also thinks that that it tells us reason but what it does is it ends up talking us out of some really good things also and then we have the second brain which I believe is your heart that’s pretty pretty simple that’s where all the emotions come from that’s that’s where all the pier emotions come from it’s it’s it’s whatever you’re doing whenever you get those feelings of of just being so incredibly insurance so happy and and it’s almost childlike you know these childlike feelings of swords and then I want to move on to the third Friday which is your guts and that’s responsible for all the the intuition that most people just choose to ignore that were frankly I think they just don’t hear it sometimes or maybe most of the time I also think that’s where are most Primal South comes from and I try to use those three brains separately to identify different I guess emotions that come from something situations that happened you know I think you have to be pretty clear about where that is coming from to be able to physically pinpoint if it’s if it’s if it’s all in motion if it’s something that I was trying to tell us they’re just not aware of and I like to when I get to talk to people when they’re sitting in my chair or if I’m having a coffee with some water or whatever I mean I’ve I’ve had some great conversations with people just sitting waiting to get my car washed you know all these little connections I I believe in synchronicity also I think synchronicity is is is a real thing and it’s a huge thing and I think that also coincides goes along with magic you know magic is a a change of consciousness within yourself and also be able being able to to change the rib that Consciousness around you it all kind of goes back and points to the same kind of thing you know when when we’re in tune we not only are better people for everything around us but specifically for other people and I think that’s really important and you know cuz the world that we live in right now is just like I said earlier so full of fear and and come and paranoia and I think that everybody just needs to kind of take a step back and really be accountable and be responsible for yourself in hey we’re not be a little responsible for other people to sometimes I don’t think it’s such a bad thing is to also from previous especially bad is part of the ocean that I have kicked her out for a while I really am not going to stay the name of this this fellow but I will say that I was interested in studying a a very accomplished black time trick magician who has very interesting thesis about the difference between white magic and black magic and into to paraphrase what one of the things he said it was basically that you can if you were if you were to truly be a projectile practitioner white magic then you would not attempt to influence the outcome really evenie evenie life of that because that would be so presumptuous to assume that you have the almighty waste God and therefore Could Do no harm and everything you do is going to be perfectly each of the life but more but more realistic see that that’s that’s wishful thinking is my any more realistically it’s it’s it’s a safer intellectual place to own that if you were trying to make any adjustments on the outcomes of anyone’s life your own & Beyond then actually physically a black magician because you are defying the the natural order of things and it’s all semantics my grandmother they were really trying to influence and actually make these things happen good most of the time it was not good and they did and they did it you know I’m with white magic and and and Earth Magic and sex Magik I I don’t I mean I guess influence I guess is the word we can use for now you’re sort of just taking all of this energy bill topping in one way or another if you know however you felt it up and then being able to use that into I don’t know if I don’t know if I would say influence I would say uh manifestation really some people call it prayer some people call it meditation whatever you want to call it I just feel I don’t know I feel like with with those types of magic in the lighter stuff you’re more of asking verses asking and kind of directing your you’re not you’re not really pushing for this this this intense outcome so to speak I mean there’s a there isn’t there definitely has been crazy intense outcomes with different things that I’ve done before but for me I can only speak personally I out of my experience those who have come out of liver a surprise when they did and then I ended up feeling things are experiencing things I’ve never done before I knew that I hit these other levels out of magic so I guess I don’t have never heard I’ve never I’ve never heard that argument but I do understand what what he’s saying by that answer or might my response to that make any sense I think we’re really getting somewhere because you know the simple I guess the shore most likely people who think they’re doing only white magic are doing great magic and people who think they’re only doing Blackmagic are also do it yeah I know I get I totally did I just have never heard it put that way I can only speak from my experience at all I think that’s where the influencing comes comes in the play is that I’ve noticed and gray like you said or black it is it’s usually a demand for something whether that’s a strong demand or a light one or or whatever it does that make sense what you just said right there is so pivotal because if you like I would love to have to be instrumental in in training a new the Next Generation magicians who who who understand you are not understanding of what the parameters of black magic are to eat I don’t want to do it or I don’t do it and do it for someone to trust that you really don’t do is like how do you define it so you know that intuition brain the gut-brain you know something doesn’t feel right doing something that you maybe you’re questioning to a point you know you that much then I would say stop I mean the same thing goes for like when you’re learning a haircut. funny things when it comes to Magic but also it’s that intention and I mean all four of those to me are before you do anything and I guess you know kind of going back to the house he was in a sort of saying that the white magicians are black and black or white and you know all of this is your job to be to be really responsible in in what you’re doing and what you’re asking and what your intentions are I mean it literally all just goes and points back to the same thing when I look at it you know I’m always very very very careful and I’ve been practicing the stuff for sale like I was really honing in on some stuff and then I ended up being a moving to the desert like I do know we talked before the last couple years and not that really propelled me into a whole other level of magic that I’ve never even knew I was capable of and that’s that’s what sort of solidified the the power that I have is things like I said to help other mothers finders in to claim it and and share my practices and what’s helped me put my mind at ease and not not in not just my mind or my brains and all three of them but but my my soul and everything else has is well you know I I’ve always believed this I believe that people really really really have to Value themselves and I mean really value themselves cuz it’s a direct reflection of how you interact with everything around you not just the other people but Adam Wilson you know that our sins and everything and I feel like a lot of people don’t value themselves these days for whatever reason it is and then like I said where you can sell you endless consuming society and in the end it didn’t they just bursting at the seams with human child basically it’s their eyes and ears are being consumed by you know the Kardashians and the news and the biscuits and you know just all this crazy shit instead of putting other things in in there you know turn the TV off so you can have the internet than the TV bundle in the whole deal I always tell them you know that’s a lot but I am one of those weirdos and every single time I got the same response it’s what do you do what do you do with yourself I don’t understand what you do explain to them exactly what I did or whatever I’m not going to I’m not going to tell the poor girl at Time Warner one network to the other all right where we exactly where when you realize that when you got cut off but if I could bring us back to where to elaborate on and I was going to say the one I love about how you framed the distinction between the white and black magic Continuum is really about what the ad if I’m understanding correctly and I’ll kind of rephrase this is like the step-by-step would be the intention and then the call the intention is to do no harm and to do good or to do well or to heal or to manifest positivity or something of us open generate so positivity as he has the intention and then instead of instead of imposing your your sort of self-promoting self-aggrandizing or somehow that comes from what are you but I believe in a lot of that comes from Eco you know about asking and asking and away and also just trying to coddle it enter to she also harness it at the same time you know there’s a gentleness to it and also the black magic in the darker Arts I find it very demanding when they’re asking its atom and it’s a hey. I feel like a lot of it just comes from the ego you know it isn’t that is what I think is like I’m going to make this happen this is going to happen because I say I’m a powerfuel I I’m this powerful I’m blah blah blah you know when I when I come to my own personal power I let it speak to me I know that sounds corny and whatever but I do you know I left I let it talk to me I mean the other day I was brushing my teeth in the bathroom and I had a really really funny experience on the window is directly behind me and it looks up into these really beautiful trees and I was just brushing my teeth tonight I got whatever it was I didn’t really pay any trees with the branches coming up looks like basically he’s like Kevin Lee really amazing earth Spirits they just look like these pillars with these what their hands up into the air in the sun was coming through for me to be able to recognize that as I’m just one daily brushing my teeth and you know doing whatever to see something like that I think it’s really Spectacular Now and Then that led needs some thinking and then I’d like to writing and then that actually led to sort of I guess you’d call it a vegetable that I said last night I didn’t even really plan on doing on from just brushing my teeth looking up and being just being open and aware enough to accept things like this when when the earth is giving you something when a person or another being I don’t feel like there are coincidences with the black it’s like these definitive I guess like miles to basically justify and validate that your accessory is working does that make sense other assorted from distinction I’m thinking trying to access my normally very inefficient left brain I’m trying to figure out almost mathematical or algorithmic type of thinking to this mechanical or robotic but I think the juxtaposition of the news actually really quite wonderful I feel like magic can be an if-then type algorithm where you basically about what is an if-then a recipe is an algorithm in the algorithm is the recipe so there you have it so it’s the thing of it that way I’d say where we are on this graph for this this these branches that are coming out from a tree or a sort of thought bubble you know this series of steps and process uses that the the intention now I’m kind of seeing how the way to it’s not like it gets completely Amorphis because the intention could be to raise a million dollars for charity which which has elements of it that are are very parameterize do you know you have the not be a dollar amount you have the the sort of limiting factor that it be for a nonprofit organization for some charitable cause that you would hope will be auctioned charity than it would have some wedding on what its value is what is what is a specific charity and what do they do for people that Community whatever it is you know animals once again to that in ten and then your accountability and responsibility to that attention to that make sense so the intention let’s say if it was to save the polar bears you would focus on the help and try calling on not just got all that stuff you know put the energy out there throwing out a million tentacles at one time you’re not quite a fishing that but like you’re trying to zap and you’re trying to get an end open these channels up and try to reach other people I’m in spine that. Sort of tap into their goodness as well you know and end end it’s all I can kind of see what the intention is to save the polar bears do to do all the stuff of course you know you want to be able to hit this goals and that is obviously important but I think that the weight of it needs to go back to what the what the reason and why why you’re you’re why you’re doing this why you feel so strongly about it to me that’s more to me that’s more important you know cuz when it’s with all of that projection and all of that even when you’re when you’re putting that out there too I just I feel like it’s it’s just better all the way around energetically speaking we have it well yeah because you could ask for billing and maybe it cost you a hundred million and if you would have just said get the job done you would have been really really really specific cuz I have been many times when I’m sure it’s going to happen again because I really focused on the on X y&z now I know I was really really really sure let’s go forward a little bit and woe holyshit all this stuff wow okay this is this is incredible you know I’m just asking you know asking for things and not being afraid to ask so I got all these two I got all the pieces but I didn’t quite get them in the order I wanted them in right is that make you know what I mean weather at make the Joker’s like you had your prayers are answered but it’s distributed you know they are dropped but they’re broken in two packages across time and space you have to like hang on to that key that you found in the gutter for like 5 years in that door that you can’t open that you thought you should be able to the keys in your pocket it and then reveal their working towards towards something good it was in a different order or it was just not quite like I said I thought I was even more than I had to go back and look at my writing it look at and that’s my accountability in my responsibility to myself and University anyway I know I mean I know it’s a little tiny things but things has lasers with the order of the universe and that’s why I say you know I will always go back to accountability responsibility and intention and that has actually helped me with those actually put those into everyday use all the time in my life and it and it really really does Century because I’m always stand under them sesef creepy way but you know I just I want to be accountable for my actions for the things that come out of my mouth which is why I choose my words you know in my tone and my delivery very carefully you know I want to be responsible not just to myself but but two other people of the earth you know animals everything I want to be responsible to the magic I want to be responsible to people are saying that that I you know she’ll balance somewhere I don’t I don’t I never considered myself you know I just have to kind of go you hear it enough times from people you got to start looking into it you know and I’ve always been really humble about not just like my hair dressing as well and it’s cool to have been able to the Catalyst that field my inch extend a check and intent ra and yoga and just self-exploration with my mind body and spirit you know and it’s cool like I said what such an intimate exchange that I’m having with my clients in my relationships whether it’s been you know 6 months or 20 years I’ve been doing this 23 years and I literally get to practice my magic everyday all day not just when I’m at work it seems to be more concentrated when I’m at work because obviously you know that I protect myself every single day at work at 10 in the morning I’m up at like 5 or 6 I can’t just get up and go like I need to have a really slow the morning and and just spend some time with myself 3 years ago and she’s like I know it’s going to sound stupid but really she was telling me that I did a really good job and I was able to just walk away from it and not be angry and not be anything and you know if anything I felt that stunted and at their age they’re never going to really have the chance to kind of play another way and I think that it was because they didn’t want to be another way but but what I was saying was she wanted me to be aware of it and I was but I didn’t I didn’t see it through her eyes and never get to see each other selves exactly how other people see us and we never will you know and so she said you know you need to look at yourself in the mirror tonight for 30 seconds straight in the eyes and tell yourself thank you you’re a badass and you should have really fucking good job. Cutting salon or if I you know help somebody out that day or whatever I got a phone call from a client with her friends you know after we talk after we took whatever and they are thinking I have to be really humble you know I’m not passing out and I’m not handing out like free I don’t want I don’t like unsolicited advice you know it’s so one of the first things I do ask people not just with my work and I could be the hairdressing barbering star that could be counseling or are you know just just helping people with magic just keep it really clear it really really really really clear about what your intentions are. Yeah that really setting in and like I said not in a weird obsessive way but they put it really does make you rethink your reactions or even you know have not having a reaction to something is a reaction and I think a lot of us need to practice on a lot more you know not a not having a reaction to something even even possible yeah yeah and don’t keep it on Harrison into some fire you know I mean I try to walk that person away from the fire cuz I don’t know I just I think I truly believe that everybody deserves to be happy it starts with ourselves that it actually it’s that needing that wants to become a better man for myself or and it flows out if you and is infectious you know toddlers but I really do believe it has to be that first and foremost thing you said it’s important to note that says in this some kind of an outline here it is said your ability to stay accountable really if we if we look zoom into that word we’re talking about accounting it brings to mind the notion of a ledger and unassertive bookkeeping and so the bookkeeping is your book of spells so if you if you crave cast that magic spell and you do you set your intention and then you you see that it might be going walk or something but you have the ability to go back to that date and you do it on a spicious days of the calendar so that you can know where to where to go back to it are you confusing software you can search for it but to be able to if you if you just you just verbalize it you may not remember which I constantly have so many different books and actually you know I have one that’s kind of a general one that I’m constantly have about three or four that I’m kind of working at one time always you know one of them is for my partner and I specifically for both of us you know one of them is kind of a general one one is from me and my interactions with yellow lines notebook pads you know like the legal ones and so I just write down a lot of stuff I’m not a writer I just I just ride a lot of things down your bullet point things to make things all kinds of stuff you know you you can you already know or you trying to collect what that smell is what that ritual is what you’re trying to do put it all down and then once once you actually do everything you can either form at it before you know if you want a bullet point the different steps that you want to do like I say if you’re doing a spell the ritual that you created for yourself I think that’s completely fine you want to give things objects meanings you want to you know do it do I’m all for that you know I don’t care what it is you use I like to use a combination of different things that I’ve collected throughout the years symbolize different stuff for me and also I like to use a lot of different crystals in a lot of different God where we going with this I’m so sorry Vizio creating your own ritual is what I was saying there we go and just put a little bit of the power of writing it down so you can go back and check on it and might get the answer you could actually addressed it you know you could be right in a mandarin constitutional freedoms and yeah right down all the stuff cuz I actually do have a cooking diary that I do cuz I like to call so and so I take notes of every single thing that I do and it’s also just really good to go back and review or you know even just to kind of go back and read these books and see you know it’s a really interesting way to tell my own story to myself you know no one really gets to look at these except you know every now and then my I’ll show my boyfriend are you know maybe I’ll show up page or something or two or you know whatever it is I share a lot with him the one that I have I’m supposed to mean I was just really cool Connection in the synchronicities that we have together having said that I’ll come right down and write down your rituals in your spells you know if you eat your your journey as a magician really I mean we do this weekend with our card since you know so it’s basically keeping sort of your own it’s kind of like a journal in a report card and a bunch of other things all thrown in together you know and then again I think it’s just an interesting way of contacting some books that are like 15 years old has moved back to the city of December to write thank you notes bass like it’s all me I can all you know I can see and I can feel that it’s all me but just to watch the evolution of but just the awareness and the openness because I really really really might my 30s for me were about being really open and I thought I was open and I wasn’t certain ways but I was so closed off and scared and invulnerable most mostly on a sort of an emotional level would certain Dynamics and I just was like fuck it you know this I really really really want to know what this is like I want to know what that’s like I want to know what it’s like to really still open and so I had to learn that the process of letting go look at myself as a work in progress as we all are letting letting go was like one of my biggest lessons in keeping things simple Letting Go being present I’m old I don’t take anything personally and I used to take as I was a fucking crazy ass young double Scorpio and pass shit and I I just would be exhausted and I didn’t have time for myself so I had that was another thing that actually made me focus on myself and go okay this is going back to I have to be able to take to help myself and I can’t I can’t complete all of my energy and all of everything that I have two other people all the time you know if there’s a limit there’s a limit that I can get especially like in a work setting are in a social setting is for a social and I am actually quite an introvert I really prefer just like mellow chill kind of stuff you know I was going to say just one that I would like everyone to try to practice is to just really not take anything really personally because ultimately you know I am the only person who’s responsible for my own feelings whatever they are it is a matter of somebody says something to you that’s true or not or whatever it is I get to choose how I feel about everything absolutely that’s one of the Four Agreements Don Miguel Ruiz Four Agreements don’t take things to do your best dentist that take things personally and celebration I have for you so I think this was a good intro and I think too kind of I’d like to just give you one more sort of topic to explore for now and then we can leave it also is a bit of a cliffhanger we can come back I think there’s a lot of stuff more to unpack future episodes so I think that would be good to just have to have this be the very beginning intro kind of introduction to to your pear diamond and I appreciate this is a gold mine this is that I feel like you’re this is such a like I found the end of the rainbow here this is this treasure all about is is beyond I don’t even have words for it I mean I listen to your podcast for a really long time you know any what you know and then we ended up messaging somewhere along the line and I’m just saying is that I’m very thankful that I got to connect with you just just even sending you a note that one time or whatever it’s just all these things that we’ve had I’ve always enjoyed them seriously thank you I mean I know and I can I listen to your show and I know the time of people that you have on all the time for me to be part of this I mean even just one time is is really cool for me to be able to share this stuff with you with you and and everyone who listens to you so I just want to say thanks again I’m super super green food you’re welcome and thank you and if they have mutual honor him and blessing and I would say yeah the thing that’s on my mind for you know something soon to refund a bit now before we close for this this first episode we something that is the sort of throws a monkey wrench into the the very elegant logic that we have worked together here to kind of layout in Spanish of the sizes is what I would I have explored is is sort of the how to be accountable and responsible and ethical with the desire to pursue or seduce someone in the how that well you were sexually stimulating yourself and fantasizing about a sexual outcome with a potential partner that there is like for me I have a sort of framework work checklist where where I do want to have some clear intention in and released released that monitor my vibration around the energy and certainly of the conduct my own conduct in the Fantasy Realm because it is I believe a a a karmic casino to be fantasizing sexually and so you got to be with what are your thoughts on that can be it’s murky territory when we look at what’s the difference between it all that well the grace World of Magic here so we have please take away about what the intention as you know see if you see incredible person whether that be attached that’s that’s usually the person you want to buy what is the most important question is he this and it hit me the right way whatever it is you know like I said that’s really really ask yourself why practice is a bunch a lot of different things are where they are on a spiritual level you know versus someone who isn’t that all I mean to did you did you have liked it with your question were you thinking more about someone who is more open and spiritually aware or in touch with you know themselves and everything around them or are you speaking of just sort of like more social let me have I guess I’ll share with you a little bit of a little bit of intimate details about how I solely what year is this to me I feel like this I very very rarely use pornography of any kind as the visual aid or stimulant for myself because you know when I was a lot younger and a lot hornier and a lot less sophisticated spiritually I would say if I dare say then he was just fodder but the thing is what I and I was also jaculating constantly without any so and that was because of the Paradigm that that I was them at that that area of acid images of human consciousness in the West the surface ship that we’ve talked about before it right so that said to me that what I like what I know now if I would have known then what I know now I would have said to myself to have a practice more like what I have now wishes to Safeway when I fantasize about a future sexual encounter it really has got to actually in my mind be a very plausible realistic potential outcome with someone who is it is accessible by some believe with me and so I’m not really jerking off to dead people and I only brought enough to movie stars and people who unless I really really believe that what I want to do is structure my destiny to encounter them and have us have a mutual Very sensual erotic Mutual exchange I don’t really waste my Prada I don’t waste my see that as my Jing I’m not going to spill my seed in where to put a spell that has really no it’s not really a meritorious or whatever the word will be it doesn’t really it’s not part of my destiny so and this is just me kind of putting my thoughts into the into the original question for Texas is that I feel like the I would either they’re up there are people there are always a list of people who I’m attracted to in my life who are in weed ovarian degrees of proximity to me and in Space the time I suppose but maybe hey sup maybe some of them are are in committed monogamous relationships and therefore I’m also risking the the karmic consequences of of like astral home-wrecking by have a responsibility in that situation is just about being responsible on a sexual and a spiritual and in a personal level and in on a friendship level if that’s where it is too you know I mean I I’ve had experiences with other with other people before and even if it’s going to be a one-time thing from for me or for us or for whatever it is I’m very clear with one wants if that makes sense I don’t just let somebody why don’t open the door. Not physically but you know what I mean just open open the door and let them walk in and when wander around you know I’d I’d like to say okay look you know I am and I’m really really Frank here I have told you guys before it’s like look you know in my mind I’m going okay I know this is probably be like a one-time thing doesn’t happen all that often or it happened all that often but I would say with hey look I’m not looking for pornsex I’m not looking to get off like I want to actually have sex with an nnn if you don’t know what that means you know really that I can cut if you’re willing if you’re willing I can kind of show you a different way of going out this an interesting really super clear that’s where that double fucking Scorpio comes in you know I just I can’t lie and I’m very very very direct and I will say that in my experience I have it’s been it’s been really fine with that and sometimes it’s been really great or like let’s say you know you end up meeting somebody and there’s a connection there’s a little bit of a friendship and then it goes there sexually and then you realize that’s okay I don’t want to be in a committed thing with you or I’m not you know any in a space where I could be in a relationship whether you want to or not that’s just you know what it is to be able to be emotionally irresponsible not to yourself and accountability to the other person as well and yourself I want to have a really good hopefully intense on whatever level sexual experience with somebody that’s problem with most men is that most people I would say in general but they’re just so used to getting off by using corn by using this by using whatever and I just I feel like it when you get it really really really in tune with yourself you’re going back to say it with what you were saying like I just don’t want to spill my seed and then wasted I I feel the same way but at the same time like there have been several times were the sex that I have with my boyfriend my actual partner is incredible and it just keeps getting better and better and better and sometimes I mean we don’t set out for this but like it will end up coming like six times over you know some hours or whatever it is and it’s like holyfuck like Jesus Christ and then you know it’s almost like that sort of Monex states where you just had sex had nowhere you everything just is talking to you the leaves it wasn’t just getting off you guys were able to connect on levels where you really took each other separately and together to other places I mean this I have had some experience with this man his name is Johnny Ray he’s he’s really seriously the best person I’ve ever been with I’ve never been with anybody like him he has experience in the matter with him have been just utterly mind-blowingly shocking in a really good way swear he’s actually aided me in seeing certain things while doing sex magick and while doing some other stuff like that I’d like that I actually saw even though my eyes were closed I saw these things I went places you know really interesting and I took a long time to kind of develop but like I I I don’t know I I find again I just think that like you don’t you just say you have to really be responsible but it do whatever is right for you is what I’m saying like I said if if you’re if you’re in a situation where if it feels right that that you’re going to come again then go for it you know if you can try that you don’t try to do all that cuz that’s because it makes the experience more intense and there’s so much more than just like I said then getting off you know another program to do and and there are a lot of times to ejaculate at all and still have an equally razee go to experience you know a lot of full body in touch with your actual magic right there you know well I think on that note I don’t think we could end on a better a better note in a better place to conclude I think that really is a great a great introduction and this is this smoking hot material and I can’t wait to to keep exploring I’m more of this and zooming into various aspects so for now we’ll see it are there any specific ways that you would like listen this to reach out to you how can I go get a nice haircut it’s the same it’s Mike Bonner hair so m i k e b o n n e r and then hair hair at gmail.com on Instagram I do tarot readings to I don’t claim the psychic I’m not really really really try to connect with people on listen to them that’s what I try to do this first and foremost well I got to say it has been an absolute treat and Prejudice is like such a bicycle synchronistic to be able to just have this Pockets out there than have it find people and then and then all the sudden we’re we’re already talking when you’re adding a lot to to this this archive this is sort of the akashic record that I’m not curious to hear so thank you so much again and I look forward to next time I will yeah everybody have sweet and sweet dreams and a good prayers and magic spells and we will help keep each other accountable and responsible and also remember that intention with everything just intense so important did all right all right I will take you with you Google talk to you so I would actually like to share and I now just thinking of it I have an example of a personal and almost perfect example of a white magick manifestation which will then I’ll create a ritual around this that’ll be done free for a year basically starts in November that’s the the month I was born and so for me not on the same calendar as everybody else when they do their resolutions and all that kind of stuff you know in January I mean frankly it just doesn’t mean anything to me November my birth my own personal earlier anyhow having said that I have been working on just trying to manifest and think about him focused a lot of energy on what I want out of this coming year and sometimes it happens before November sometimes it happens during and and this time it took a couple months and so anyhow I woke up yesterday morning and the first thing on my mind was what I heard was this is just the beginning and I have I just move back to LA from being out in the deserts the high desert in Southern California for the last two years I needed a break from everything the city in and then what not and are all the noise and everything that comes and goes around it that clutters us up so I went out to the desert and a long story short I really needed to clear a lot of things Within Myself And also physically all that all my environment you know that is so beautiful and quiet and pretty desolate out there but it’s booming with life you know you sit there for just start looking and listening and you can just literally see everything breathing, there is a lot of movement actually I’m in that Stillness so when I had woke up yesterday that that raise this is just the beginning was really really strong in my head and the next one was come to life on my desk and just wrote what was coming out so and manifestation for the year which is so cool how that happened yeah I was I was actually kind of Blown Away by it at the end of it just because I felt like I’d gotten such a good I don’t know I guess I connected with a part of myself and I really listened to to to whatever it is or whatever they were trying to say to me in an hour or whether it was part of me as well I don’t know the point is that it’s I feel really really great and humbled that it came out so I’m just going to read you what what this sort of white magick manifestation isn’t this is just the beginning come to life it is the real you that speaks through your rebellious Sacred Heart in this living your life not the monkey mind the mind is not much more than a swirling canopy of Habitual reactions your monkey mind is not to run the show at the moment it might have a lot to say and at times it seems very convincing but it’s not the one in charge remember are three different brands one that had drained brain scuse me the mines brain which I like to also call once again the Periscope with the feeding tube attached that brain is responsible for logic and reason number two are other brain is the heart the heart brain you know the heart responsible for our emotions the death of things and our reactions to things I believe is Our God’s are intuition brain I believe it’s also very Primal and Saul so it didn’t stink you know I’m going to focus on the hearts and intuition brain and remember to the monkey brain rest gets us into trouble and the additional thoughts and creative and energetic Awakening is happening it is so far beyond what the mind is now capable of controlling others might not like it because it means change coming to life tends to do that however it is now and the only real choice I have to make is how to deal with it coming to life means feeling treating the space and just doing it don’t hold back and this process I will uncover the Artistry of the universal Creator and creators I will honor the sacredness of Life by exploring it without restraint and that includes the flow of my feelings I don’t have to do anything with them other than Express them learning how to access feeling allows you to learn how to access intuition creative inspiration and internal guidance I have chosen to come into a body and live consciously within it even in times of pain know and trust that there will be also ecstasy and Bliss as the process of healing and Awakening continues the message is be alive there’s no going back no falling into old ways I have crossed the threshold from an old way of being in an old life and try as I might I cannot return besides it won’t be the same as it used to griever celebrate do both move on there’s a new adventure awaiting me now and I want even deeper connection to my own instincts my body feelings intuition magic and everything I will trust and embrace it and it will trust and embrace me in return. 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Defenses Against Sexually Transmitted Demons TPP14

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tom-denney-tposIn this episode my dear Vietnamese spiritual warrior goddess friend Maya and I discuss the biology and ecology of various types of demons, how they interact with humans, and how to defend against their transmission during sexual activity.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 14 this is a conversation I had with a dear friend Maya who is a Vietnamese Warrior goddess spiritual Warrior goddess friend of mine who has a lot of very interesting insights into the Demonic realm and ways that we can have self defensive strategies for our bodies our minds and our Spirits welcome Maya we have a few questions for you about your insights into the Demonic realm and you have some interesting experiences that you share with me in the past and I would absolutely love to have you share those with the listeners and so I’ll just kind of go back over some of the stuff I remember we’ve talked about you have had have you had experiences that you would describe as feeling completely overtaken and sort of classically possessed okay so would you care to describe in whatever detail that you’re comfortable with it before New Year’s I was at the Santa Monica train station at a really late hour and at the wrong time because police officer who I think was also cuz that’s because he was on a lot of you must have been on a lot of medications but he just came in very roughly into the cafe I was buying food it and he put my hands behind my back and push my head near the ground and arrested me and in that moment a master who later healed me explain to me that a demon had stabbed my astral self with the really sick poll about 1 and 1/2 inch in diameter and since then my eyes were a little hazy I couldn’t see straight it was like I was always dreaming or just wanted to go back to sleep and I walked really stiffly it was like my joints were locked up and my head was heavy so there are certain times when I was driving my head would just Bob down because bob up and down cuz it was just so happy to hold left so that was my most recent 6. So what would you say that was the most extreme state where you feel like you’re not in control of yourself are there any have there been on any other instances where you felt completely unable to control your your body in your voice and are baby to that extent to that extent there any other instances where you felt like you were you we were purposefully possessed so what I’m trying to lay out is a sort of system for categorizing the various degrees of possession that there are where the extreme would be the mothers that stabbed and killed their own babies like that would be I would consider the most extreme some of the most extreme ancestors of this isn’t this woman also doesn’t say a say a career psychopath criminal either she’s a normal person with a normal life and for some reason with you know very little precedence for spontaneous violence in her own mind comes out of his way I don’t know what came over me of that was you know there’s that glazed over effect that happens if people you know even just people with anger management issues and they they go into a rage and they see red and then they don’t know what they did afterward so like that would be to me something that if we’re going to start seeing if we’re going to start if psychotherapist are going to take their system for categorizing pathological behaviors and they’re going to then have to do the match up game of species of demonic parasitic organism and its dominant mode of behavior once it gets control over a person so yeah so long story short the voices in the head in the impulses and just alien life-forms alien impulses that you yourself and your essence of knowing right and wrong and knowing you know your own sense of boundaries and sense of Ethics have you had experiences of feeling like there were alien thought-forms put simply which which we can say or demonic spam robot pop-up windows in the mine stream you know nothing unwanted unwelcomed fearful anxiety anxious any even like you know what whatever you have going on that you feel is like not serving you and not something that you asked for true to yourself if you have that type of a degree in your experience yeah I feel they were many times where I knew I knew it wasn’t my thought and to just end it all it always had to do with hanging with a belt or ropes somewhere in the closet or on the Rafters outside. Always appeared as well as a really strange thought of taking cleaver knife and just and just facing it towards your face and just cutting your face and 1/2 yeah things I just didn’t couldn’t make sense out of where is there any those alien produce Tennessee’s that you don’t feel come from your essence when you remember the events as they happen or the the imagination of the events were there any patterns in what happened in you internally or externally leading up to that so taking a pharmaceutical drug for example could be one thing that induces an increase volume of these things or being in a toxic relationship or being drunk or you know what I’m saying like is there have you noticed any patterns are like okay I will if this happens then this is trigger kind of a thing or is it just totally on a turn and spontaneous when I started taking the antidepressant then I would have increased thoughts about doing that and before that the thoughts would just come at random moments I could ever really predict him if you have these thoughts before you started taking medication and they increased as the result of taking the medication I would personally to do so that means that whatever alien attached parasitic organism that is hacking your mind stream and your visual field and your other like sensory inputs auditory and whatnot has already said that but there always waiting for the opportunity to exploit your weakness in the weakness in the Integrity of your field and that is built based built with love fundamentally that’s the building block of the field of protection your security perimeter around your fragile mind you know your fragile mind stream that pure river that should be flowing with no malicious creatures in there it’s protected by the Integrity of a field of love that is like created around it from utero from In Utero to death and if we were protected with Love by our communities and our families and our relationship to Nature then we will be impenetrable for the demands of the lower astral plane demonic creatures if that’s you know for is one way of thinking of it and we’re basically vulnerable to them so whatever had gotten into you earlier in life that would be responsible for projecting these things into your mind stream they did the application of that pharmaceutical drug is actually it’s it’s giving them more power over you in some way in that what we would do without the scientific research that’s needed you know we can only postulate that either it multiplies itself or it grows and it’s one organism that you know I’m saying like either either it has the the resources to create Offspring rapidly and reproduce like discrete units of itself or if we’re like it it’s like it it was small and so we can only put in this many minutes a day of unwanted thoughts you know when to you because it was like it didn’t have a lot of power but then something happens when you take the drug and then it itself as one entity grows and gets more power because it has more strength is in itself either that could be what’s happening or it can be that or did its reproducing itself some more of it or able to get in there and they take turns this is the kind of behavior analysis that was going to be needed to be able to know scientifically how to combat this infection is what’s happening on his level so that’s my commentary on what you described you know and that’s a good thing that I’m hearing and have you ever had met you. Dennis is going to but have you ever experienced methamphetamine that’s another question now okay good because it is that doorway opening to the max or that weakening of your field there is there there’s a has been popularized by Breaking Bad well I don’t know exactly what the effects are of that series I’m so disconnected from the TV world right now but I can as with anything and probably has effective Lee discouraged it but perhaps who knows what percentage it’s encouraged it I mean the movie why don’t I don’t I won’t say the name but I’ll say that it’ll be careful what you document because you could be responsible for glamorizing and replicating it but I don’t know what I don’t know anything about the show I haven’t watched it but I know there’s a lot of other films influenced me that were like kind of carelessly glorifying stupidity and drug abuse but anyways so next question is you’ve had the physical possession the mental possession how about like have you felt have you ever had any Outburst of like vocalisations or glossolalia you know speaking in tongues English none human language sounding Stuff vocal cords So Cal League vocal positions that perhaps I haven’t had that but I’ve experienced that with patients cuz I used to work at a mental or no I just I used to work at a convalescent hospital and one of the patients that was possessed he would actually that demon transferred to another patient after he left and she was a Spanish speaker and of course she was speaking to me about the bike that I had recently lost cuz it was stolen and she was like oh you want another bike just steal one but she said that all in Spanish and she just kept telling me like take me take me I’m yours if I should know my name but normally she doesn’t know my name that’s very very interesting so you’re saying that you had already sort of identified and been interacting with this like very let’s say unpleasant sort of character in a person that was previously much different so it was a sharp contrast so something is animating this human being to behave in this obnoxious Manner and you get to sort of get to know it a little bit and then the guy dies and then shortly thereafter coming through the apparatus the vocal apparatus of another living person in proximity seizes their vocal cords in speaks in their dominant language right or whichever in their language and you able to sort of recognize it is that you’re saying that’s fascinating okay I’m going to just meditate on that for a second and think about another question next week or that’ll be something for another that’s a whole I guess I’m going to say that’s a whole lot floor of the NASA of spiritual ecology that will one day exist will be dedicated to studying transference Hospital transfer yeah definitely so okay maybe now if you care to tell the story about you know the the dream in the ex-boyfriend deal or former lover is a taxi oh okay so I’ve been dreaming that this ugly demon with really big thing big mouth just took a big bite out of my neck and right shoulder and the dream also was well that was going on the demon was also penetrating me and I wake up and the ex-lover it turns out he had without permission you know just started the act of intercourse and and I asked if he did me but he was just like no no but I mean he could have been dreaming too and just starting it without realizing it but it was in that moment that I realize that he was most likely possess did you tell him that you had that experience and ever or you just how did you did you react uncomfortably when waking up and did he how did he respond to your describe how can I use very very Clueless you just kept denying that he had done anything wrong and just completely acted like nothing happened and it was okay to do what he did I’m sorry to hear that it’s on one of those degrees of violation that’s like very common so did you come to some kind of resolve with him where you just kind of like all that’s cool I mean where you like how I know it was is a strike against the whole relationship you know it’s three strikes and you’re out did you feel that tell me the attempt to make it up to you in any way or will he didn’t take any they didn’t apologize ever but you made it it was it was clear to him that you were with your body language in your verbal language that you were that that wasn’t cool and he was just like whatever oh okay but that was but were you able to then I guessed it the relationship continued and you were just like okay as long as he never does that again you know or kind of thing or from that point would you say that was his his Unruh remorseful response was sort of a breaking point that ultimately was like the a Breaking Point it was a Breaking Point yeah absolutely blacked out drunk sleeping with the partner you know if you don’t have those boundaries you know cuz I’ll speak from experience and say that I there is a susceptibility to possession during sleep for sure with you know Amplified with any alcohol consumption especially large you know alcohol consumption or to the point of being blacked out your sense of self is completely blocked in whatever you do is the behavior of of gremlins possess patience they’re possessed people that walk around the streets and their hands are usually in this formation which is I love you up right in sign language but upside down I’m told it’s a negative connotation they walk around with this hand gesture and they’ll touch almost every leaf that they can I seen it in two people but I’m sure that there’s more that do it but do you know what that means I don’t know yeah you know I’m glad you said that because part of understanding this fully would be I’m going to take most of the day to that’s going to be collected about the reality seriali the scientific phenomenon scientifically provable phenomenon of invisible intelligent entities able to basically hack into human nervous system and produce thoughts and in emotions and feelings and even on an advanced level it’s the ability to manipulate entire situations involving multiple people and inanimate objects at this fact of this forthcoming scientifically provable phenomenon of demonic possession so called her formerly called demonic possession Skid Row going to Skid Row or to the psychiatric of course that’s where the people who were the most possessed have ended up you know or they they they guess is probably like a few look at the the revolving door between the mental ward and the street so pretty much you’re talking about the same Keef either in or you’re out but you’re because it had turned subtle gestures have got to be an important indicator for distinguishing where is this who’s doing this and who’s not doing it and then her other patterns of behavior that are also in related is also patterns of their particular profile of abuse their particular medications how do you create these linkages to what’s a friend of the demon actually exist on a plane a reality where its ability to manipulate people is more like octopus tentacles where do you have the central bring you know unit of the body in one area but they’re able to actually use cord like tentacles to go into people and to have this effect so that it could be one multiple yeah so if you’re doing a specific pattern gesture could it be this Fred the demon have a carbon copy of himself in every single one of those or is it Fred has 50 million tentacles and every time every time the weekend person opens up in friends competing with John because John is work getting something else out of people and making them do Behavior X and Fred’s doing Behavior why what if you just did a study of people’s hand gestures and maybe give gave them like art supplies you know what I mean and then really see if there’s something else going on but all right we’re going to say that you’re here for you I mean I know you said technical but a few days ago like last week I was walking outside with my cousin out the Nae Nae in the neighborhood I know I felt like a Senegal reached inside my ear into the back of my brain but there’s it was just air but for the rest of the week or like a giant Q-tip and for that week is really just hard to think even though like you if I got a like a CAT scan or something in my brain nothing would come up like and also how I told you about how I think that it is my stuff mom or my my dad’s girlfriend has made a voodoo doll of me because there are certain times when I feel like a needle like a giant needle has gone through my ovary or just like certain parts of my head will feel really funny like that was very specific like I could pinpoint it down to someone’s punching me or something but I mean there must be a science in Voodoo in itself and how it affects other people and I still can’t solve it and I still can’t solve the how if it were you no confirmed how would I fix it yeah I’m glad you brought that up cuz we talked about that and there’s a lot of wealth in the world I think whatever problem is making somebody have ill will towards you could be solved with money like how would you like to live you know on the beach in Maui and have everything paid for in just sip coconut in or whatever you want to do it let’s just say what is it what do you really want like what would be the Fulfillment of your wildest fantasies I mean we can’t guarantee you the Ultimate Dream Lover per se but we can put you somewhere where people that you want to be around that you might be a good you know cool to select enter Find Your Dream Lover from anywhere in the world you go anywhere in the world this is the big prize you know on the game show and all you got to do is spend you know a few days in this laboratory experiment with your niece and you say cuz you’re at and and we’re going to sit down together and we’re going to see if you cooperate with the study then you get to have you know the money that will sell like a problem since like you’ll probably forget about making someone else’s life hell for a reason you’re doing it right you can be distracted by your own you know, so let’s say we have the power to do that and we could bring her into a laboratory and you you know I have some ideas about the kind of study I would design around that tube to be okay you can’t tell us that you’re not doing as you have busy part of the deal if you have to eat what you have to admit that you’re doing this and was assuming that that that it’s a certainty no religious your suspicion isn’t she she is going to see you go through with this offer you say hey are you doing voodoo on me for some reason and because if you are don’t worry about it I’m not going to be punished or actually going to reward you for telling us about how you did it and if they okay well yeah I guess I have to stop doing it and I will give you the surprise you take David surprise and go be distracted and do things to be happy and that would solve the problem and you know you can go on living your lives and no persecution know you know charges everything just be honest so let’s say we’ve got her a nut in you in the laboratory and we’re going to study what’s happening inside of you with instrumentation and we’re going to study what’s happening inside of her with instrumentation and have her do what she does you know would what from now if you can describe like you said the some of the things that you felt were happening that could be that could be being initiated or intended you know by her if the kids can you describe what you could imagine being the results of a study or how you would design what kind of what kind of procedure could you imagine having like let’s see if she going to sit there and manipulate an object and have that object be like a doll or is he just going to sit and pray and meditate what if we put stupid. All because all you really need is the most recent picture or a video of the person you want and there was this one time in a restaurant I felt really funny this older lady was there with her family and she try to take a picture with your phone and it was always so that I was in the background and I tried covering my face and everything but she still persisted in almost waited until I uncovered my face and from that point on that was when I was feeling a lot of pain in my in my ovaries in my uterus probably like wishing you ill will against like having any kids which is totally fine cuz I’m not going to have any kids and also my head like just felt like sometimes is being punched or squeezed or like something like the head of a needle is just being you know slowly poking into it is and also sometimes I felt like a marionette also with the even after the cop thing had transpired I would walk around like so like a puppet and almost and with one of my close friends whose very connected to me she started feeling the same things the same like chronic headaches in the marionette kind of walking sometimes when we would spend time with each other just cuz I think it affects it affects people you’re connected with as well not only yourself so how about if you can talk about the your understanding of how the chakra system is what what’s the where does the chakra system fit into this let’s say we’ve established so far in this conversation that so-called demons are real and that they behave a lot like very intelligent mind hacking parasites and seem to have an organism’s Make nature which means that they would have to reproduce somehow and they have life spans and they need to consume different inputs and have different outputs at their biological machine they’re not just a robotic machine and they’re not just a ethereal Vapor anatomically engineered you know biomechanical entities that are intelligent and have actually more dimensional in some ways we have more dimensional command in maybe parts of our realm and in other ways they have more dimensional commands in parts of the around that are inaccessible to us so I’m sure I kind of feel like there’s entities it that spend so many dimensions that you can’t even begin to Fathom it in and so they completely intersect everything here and they could you know pick up objects and make things levitate you know switch on and off lights and all that kind of stuff but that’s pretty rare you don’t every demon wishes I could have the power to do that everything rich is it has the power to like pick up that knife and put it in somebody’s hand you know what I mean or pull that trigger or whatever and some of them I guess it is a constant battle it is a constant resistance the will to not do wrong with the urge to do wrong is the Frontline Battlefield between the Demonic at the interface between your Essence which is everyone I believe you know Meme must have become really fully you know psychotically possess your pretty much resisting the urges that would make bad things happen resisting urges that would result in negative consequences are opening in strengthening your chakras to help others you’re leaving yourself vulnerable for like you know parasites to attach to so even the best healers are the most sick to the point we were talking about how they’re real and they’re biologically so what is the chakra system have to do with all this system each pertaining to a body system so that whenever say a possessed person injures someone else in a certain say they cut their skin then they it technically the Demonic parasite would be attaching to the 5th chakra so you can or you can relate when someone has a pain that’s annoyingly you don’t getting their organs or intestines you know that that’s a demonic parasite on the third chakra and so you can pinpoint based on a person’s injuries or pain which chakras they’re damaging and which ones you can heal can you describe a bit about your training in the system and specifically what have you been I sort of told I guess about mulatto people are taught about the chakra system but not a lot of people are taught and the most people chakras probably everybody’s chakras to one degree or another are actually habitat for malicious organisms that are constantly trying to get an ever-increasing foothold on you and will stop at nothing to get that if if you fail at being loved or your country Community feels that loving you you know if you you could have been love but then for some reason become an asshole and then you become susceptible and you get more chakra parasites what was explained to you in your friend that you found the research you know that that chakra parasite 101 outline of that module of learning the chakra healing I did was called human Universal energy and it basically says that when you have an illness or pain that means that that chakra system that certain chakra is damaged and because it’s damaged that also means or can’t mean it could be a physical pain and or spiritual pain that a demonic parasite has attached so our training was we would meditate for a long. Of time to strengthen and open your chakras and then from there we could treat strategically place their hands first on the 7th chakra to maintain their overall health and then to whatever other chakras or body areas that needed attention for certain amount of time and so we would be acting as the vessel for energy it’s not like the Chinese system where you use your actual energy to go through someone else but we’re just the middleman for the universal energy to go into us and into the person’s damaged chakra yeah so a lot of people would get demonic parasites there’s a two-part process where are you you identify you kind of pry it out and the second part is you pull it out and just release it from the system and last week when I went the first part of the the healing then they stopped early cuz they said I just had so much bad energy so I have to go in today but should be better in one of our conversations we were kind of comparing notes in on a parallel journey of experience and personal healing and then study and experimentation you know to degree in I think you were you’ve been experiencing things a lot more formally than we’ve been involved in different healing modality traditions and we’ve been DIY hacking around you know everyone has to be comforter online hacker you know you you’re being hacked so you better get in you know be able to hack them back and get your mind back so one of that one point we had this exchange where I have just about had just been doing somebody work where I was having this very extremely tangible feeling experience SimCity no sense that I mean it’s almost like being a mind you know what I mean like that I think about you see my name and you see a body worker in a sec if I told hey Ma hey mine come over here and in demonstrate to these people what I’m talkin about I want you to mine that your has someone is laying down their stomach and you were giving them a massage and then all the sudden as you’re massaging them you start to bump into the nest you know of creature and you deserve it and then you realize it’s a it’s an emergency this person’s under attack and you just discover this and you become the hero and you decide that the best thing that you should probably do is try to remove them and they don’t see that they’re like causing pain you know that they’re in a place where they’re doing something harmful and you start reaching into that mess and it’s like you’re reaching into a beehive pulling out trying to get them all out of somebody you know you like red ant hill or something like that but as the Healer you have the confidence that you will not be that you have the allies and the strength and sort of the armor you know I’m in the disinfectant spray and you know all of your all of your trinketry and what not that’s going to protect you and then gives you the ability to actually survive with your own like you said the best healer or something or the spiritual Cesspool Vortex so you better and I know that I’ve met a lot of psychotherapists who are so whacked out because of the work they do you know what I mean like they can’t keep a relationship they can’t they’re just neurotic about everything they start to become yeah like the transference happens and so anyway going back to what I experienced I care I pulled I was like I was having experienced okay I’m like actually in an in an ester of things been what have I wasn’t fruitfully sure the time it’s like I’m not seeing it I wasn’t medicated myself so you know we’ll keep that vague but I was let’s say third eye closed shut my third eye was shut you know relatively compared to be a relatively speaking I’m sensing with my intuition it’s only this should just throw this out there the sidebar it’s like intuition plus third eye being open means that you see more of the fabric or the what’s giving that it’s intuition like what the information that’s in those those higher Fields so I’m I’m feeling that I’m pulling something out I know I’m pulling something out I’m physically feeling it crawl into my arm and sees my muscles and try to Lodge itself like scabies you know what I mean it’s like scabies they Lodge themselves underneath the surface of the skin and they lay their eggs under the skin and their whole life cycle is occurring where you’re scratching to get below the surface of the skin where they’re burrowing all around in the place so you know that the burrowing nature of the Demonic organisms you know to do that and so but I wasn’t sure the time am I pulling out one long like giant like tapeworm kind of a thing or am I pulling out only a few at a time and let’s say in a patterned you know to see if the say it’s a mental disorder by neurosis and radek mental disorder caused a pattern behavior and you going to have to wonder if it’s like okay if if one engages in that pattern behavior every time they do that they’re out there giving a food pellet to the Demonic parasite writes like do this it’s going to make you feel bad about yourself and that’s what it’s really all about like eating disorders every disorder is like how to make how do I make a person feel bad about themselves because when they feel by themselves I get a food pallet so whatever they’re susceptible to do to feel bad about themselves I’m going to crank that up to the Max and then but so in that burrow where they’re doing that in their little nests the question is her my question has been like when I feed the koi fish the food pellets go out there and then it’s like a Feeding Frenzy of multiple fish trying to get at that that resource it’s not just like one big fish that’s sitting there by itself along with no competition and no Offspring and nothing no babies to feed and no it’s just like one thing that sits there and then it has the ability to manipulate your you in various ways and get you to do what it wants to do so it gets you to to put out this 2 to practice you old enough for its consumption I think more realistically that it is that there’s multiple like more of a freedom a Feeding Frenzy when you do something you wish you hadn’t done or you do something that makes you feel bad or you do something it’s like sexually pathological makes you feel good but it’s like a shallow good feeling you’re actually doing harm and but you’re feeding these things and I asked you on time cuz you were going through a sort of surgical extraction and an exercise in a surgical exorcism extraction procedure and asked you cuz I was curious and I was doing it for the second time is it one big one or it rots of little ones and you said both then if you want to talk a little bit about that like you were this will this anything you kind of know about like if you were a zoologist are you were you know you’re studying the distorted demon Kingdom like the animal kingdom and you be like yeah you know I’m out there doing my exploring and kind of identifying and making different the taxonomy kind of a thing right you see there’s ones like this didn’t want to look like that as long as it smell like this one it’s not like that and just things that differentiate them in your mind from all the different experiences you had personally where you be at what you personally how you would identify it if you were if it was a lineup for if I can’t see them the most strongest the biggest ones smell like sulfur and I’ve had certain like on a tip not typical but one night I had one follow me like on the road home at the parking lot and Ikea work usually people associate that’s not cemeteries but it was following me everywhere other than that the facial expressions of people are either blank with their eyes or you know almost pitch-black or smiling in a very Sinister way grinning I guess you could say summer angry out some life like non-stop the people under attack are constantly whaling cuz the pain never stops and yeah and another thing I noticed is the head movements head movements are very very quick almost unnatural you know like in the scary movies they always do that but they they really do that and they won’t really blink it’s almost as if the person forgot how to Blink cuz he’ll just stay open that’s what I noticed behind the scenes behind the mask of the human form the sort of the Matrix means what are the Men in Black plus the Matrix customer matrix totally sums up the world of interaction between human and Spirits degree any bumps as you had or like to say that you saw the demon of that X or the former lover can you describe an officer to schedule UPS cuz they were going to go and the demon was dark-skinned must’ve well when I say a big mouth with big fangs I’m saying like a circle and it’s like a circle mouth like a parasite with them really big razor sharp teeth and another one that my friends my girlfriend’s they’ve seen in their lives is a tall man with a hat and a trench coat in Carolee see his face is kind of like you know those people described him as the boogeyman but I mean they’ve seen him standing around just like in the midst of a crowd but no one else sees them or in their houses or you know in dark parking lots and when you get near you know there won’t be anyone there how would you describe the nature of what has do you feel like you have your chakras are infected with Paris theme demonic parasites my chakras are damaged cuz of demonic injuries and and black magic or so I guess I could say it does feel sometimes like there cuz my headache it shifts and it moves unnaturally in that could be parasites that are just moving and just trying to eat away at your brain you know what your spiritual rain so okay I never asked you when you were having your session or after such as they could you could you ask the healers to describe to you and then convey to me what they saw and there’s a new procedure so if you could like describe that one procedure just like as if I never heard of any of this stuff and you’re just now telling someone what the procedure was and then you’re like yeah it was mostly invisible to me but what they told me afterwards that they were doing this and they saw this well yet like I was saying with the power of intense meditation you start to see and feel things the pain of others so I think a lot of the healers have have treated for so long that by now they know which attack was from a demon or from a I’m pretty sure the master of the center knows I like exactly what happened see exactly what the demon looks like but I haven’t had a chance to talk with her okay I think that’s about it wasn’t any last things do you have any thoughts on or practice any form of goddess worship okay what do you do for defense and protection against now we have these categories demonic parasitic infection demonic attack or like assault like injury sorry Yet demonic injury demonic possession demonic infection parasitic infection those are good categories okay so I guess defense strategies and infection what I do when I feel not good or I feel like I have an infection I will you got a bunch of Rue you plug off the small leaves and you blend it and you filter out that water and you put it in a soap bottle and after shower you put it all over you for 3 5 or 7 days and it does make you feel a lot better and my aunt has a set of like it looks almost like Tai Chi exercises your breathing in and breathing out you don’t get a bad and good energy and I just haven’t remembered them and of course there’s meditation and the injury I mean you don’t know it’s so and so it happens really but I mean of course self-defense would help with that and of course infection probably lessen the number of sexual partners you have because you never know what sections you might be spreading down there not only physically but spiritually if someone has if you say you know someone has issues or someone has a lack of love and doesn’t display any respect or love towards you that and itself is bad energy and so when you engage with them you not only leaving with you know you’re not just leaving with your body you leaving with your body plus perhaps a couple of demonic parasites that afterwards you start feeling the same way of that person and it just continues on a chain okay and if we can just talk for a couple more minutes on this this is like yeah where I want to go for a minute for the men out there help help the men understand how important it is to conduct the the act of Love Making in a ritual and ritualized manner that really anchors in the highest intentions in and is about building honor and trust and respect and boundaries and communication like what I am trying to share with my being you know exposed to in a good way being found by and embraced by the sacred sexuality modern 66 Rowdy sort of movement and we have to like what you’re saying the advice is something would be something like first to be warned that this is happening you know exactly the way you described it would show a hundred percent agreement about and then knowing that now if you didn’t know that already here’s what you must demand from your you know lover male or female or old you know where any configuration before you allow your sexual intimacy to occur with one or more people you have to do X Y and Z to make sure that you’re safe and always you know and we can the STD stuff is we don’t have to go into the medical stuff of course it’s in the other conversation but the spiritual spiritually transmitted demons is there sexually transmitted demons are spiritually transmitted diseases I think they both do you know you can get make the point do you have advice for men and women or Crap wherever you want and are all gen I guess advice for a specific specific advice for men and any other advice you want to give because I think men need to have this ingrained how to conduct themselves using an ethical procedure and a sort of some skillfulness and some Artistry to be able to make someone feel safe and also the biggest challenge is going to be figuring out how you how the male who’s filled with the cultures demons you know where all carriers of the cultural demons you know and we could be saintly in our lives and saves like and still have pornographic programming and still have all of these issues that are societal and so to what I want to be able to master and teach is the ability to really conduct myself and in a state of grace that makes transference and possible because the the the the love lover of like shiv like unconditional real true Pure Love is something that that will incinerate these demons like you’re creating it when you effectively sort of Sakrete your own love biochemistry and you create this Cosmic energetic vibrational light Love Field of energy then you are effectively frying the demons and that that is the end of when the Kundalini plunger effect starts to happen and you get the coiled serpent actually like hydraulically douching out the chakra system and that’s being caused by this influx of it’s like you’re using each other’s bodies to open a valve to Divine energy and divine energy is what douches the chakras in a hydraulic peristaltic Serpentine movement kind of way so that’s I don’t know if that’s something that you have a answer that you practice and about me to see no give only as much detail as you want but he would like to be able to save somebody look how do you know I know you’re a sweetheart and I love you and that you’re loving me to the best of your ability and it’s cute and Charming that you fumble around and make mistakes and I forgive you cuz I know you’re trying and then I was at Centex so you have permission to enter me and and use are or share will share each other and experience pleasure for with and through each other for the purpose of pure hedonistic pleasure and the purpose of healing in the purpose of strengthening our bond as friends and you know this life journey together in and for relaxation for obvious reasons but I know that you are also as much as those intentions are there I also know that you are this entire reservoir of demonic entities what are the cultures programs that are living inside of you and trying to like transmit themselves so because that is a fact of your existence we need to engage in this procedure that’s going to guarantee that we have created the field of have fun of Love energy that will be that that they will have to evacuate from you they’ll have to Scurry away from because it will consume them in the fire you know and so do you have you effectively convey that how do you convey that knowing what you know which is what I like most women or not having a conversation anything like this with the people that they allowed to penetrate them right so how do you do that that’s really tough to bring up to the mail because a lot of males are not spiritually in touch with themselves are the subjects so you just usually not mention that part that just mention you know that you’re not emotionally ready for a stage like that and that our generation this culture kind of just throws away the sacredness of sex and you have to make that point clear cuz a lot of people forget that you and you can have to earn it you can’t just first date I paid for your dinner so yeah and it’s also a very tough to be sexually spiritual or spiritually sexual and a generation that’s like I told you before was so technological where we make every decision objectively when you know you need a little subjective to correlate with your heart anything more like have you had any can you recall any situations where you’ve been able to have satisfactory results with somebody because you train them to be the proper whatever you like you know like there’s no one way but it’s your way and that’s what matters right yeah there has been where I am we both meditated for bit and then you know the heat arrows and that we both decided you know it wasn’t the right time or place to go through with it and that’s success when you think of both of your priorities and if you’re both ready for it I saw yeah I do think meditation together with your partner is really essential in my life so I’m a bad example I guess because or I’m I’m like a Mite my case doesn’t count because I danced so much it’s almost like I don’t not dance ever since things like that like it’s happening while doing the dishes gardening watering plants something is wiggling cuz I’m usually listen to psytrance you know or podcasts are both in so I don’t have a problem with this but I feel like most people do have a problem with this and so I’m trying to think of how do I prescribe The Sweet Spot formula if I’m like an extreme case to one into the other and it’s like so here’s my thing dance at least three times the duration of the Intercourse that you have and you should have a healthy relationship or the potential they ever have the bishop dancing together and dancing especially you could I get supply that I mean doesn’t always have to be at 5 minutes I’m in you know it’s have a quickie you know in the in the the the the Janitor’s Closet you know in the office or what you’re obviously not going to dance for three times that 5 minutes before you do that but overall on average you know and and it should be the point should be made that dancing and meditating not everyone wants to dance which is a freaking problem I need the Tantra task Force’s going to solve that problem to visibility because if you don’t dance you can’t disinfectant purifying and he’ll in my and you can dance in whatever way you could answer your freaking toes I don’t care but do something that makes you feel good in your body and sharing that with somebody before before lovemaking yasso dance and sexuality any thoughts you know if you look at BM Tango salsa but you out the Motions of Love Making hand and hand but the problem is with a partner who has two left feet and just refuses to dance it’s okay it’s much more fun with than actual dance partner though dance to meditate and I made love or meditate and dancing meatloaf like we said regimented and restricted to eight counts them used dancing with a Goldman so it doesn’t lend itself to that or just freestyling but I’m just saying I guess the answer is no but I didn’t put them ideally yes I need to step up their game at 7 use you to step up on the dance floor at the game is on the dance floor not on the the TV it’s not on the TV or the console yeah so I was cool well I think that’s a great. I don’t even there right there thank you in whatever way you could answer your freaking toes I don’t care but do something that makes you feel good in your body and sharing that with somebody before lovemaking yeah so dance and sexuality any thoughts you know if you look at the Tango salsa but you out the emotions of lovemaking they go hand-in-hand with a partner who has two left feet and just refuses to dance free reduced Tina the type of dance where you just jumping up and down but that’s fine but it’s okay it’s much more fun with than actual dance partner though I meditated and I made love or meditated and dancing made love like we said regimented and restricted to eight counts and usually dancing with a gold men so it doesn’t lend itself to that could you imagine or just freestyling but I’m just saying I guess the answer is no but I didn’t but ideally yes ideally yes that means you to step up on the dance floor at the game is on the dance floor not on the with the TV it’s not on the TV or the console yeah so I was cool well I think that’s a great idea and they’re right there thank you. 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