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Adult Industry Law in the Covid-19 Era and Beyond with Attorney Corey D. Silverstein TPP277

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In this episode I’m joined again by leading adult industry attorney Corey D. Silverstein for an exploration of the adult industry legal landscape in the Covid-19 era and beyond

About Corey:

Corey D. Silverstein is the managing and founding member of the Law Offices of Corey D. Silverstein, P.C d/b/a/ Silverstein Legal.  His practice focuses on representing many areas of the law that impact the adult industry.  His clientele includes hosting companies, affiliate programs, content producers, payment processors, website operators, dating websites, webcam sites, traffic brokers, social media websites and performers, just to name a few.  Mr. Silverstein regularly provides legal services related to: age verification and record keeping requirements (18 USC 2257), intellectual property (copyrights and trademarks), the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, the Restore Online Shopper’s Confidence Act (ROSCA), Federal Trade Commission (FTC) compliance, first amendment / free speech, obscenity, corporate law, criminal defense, internet law, domain disputes and various other areas of the law.  Mr. Silverstein is an acclaimed litigator and dispute resolution specialist. His practice also concentrates on complex contracts, business structure, and business formation.  Mr. Silverstein prides himself in providing prompt and aggressive representation tailored to each of his clients’ individual needs.  Mr. Silverstein is regularly featured in adult industry periodicals such as AVN and XBIZ and has been quoted and published in mainstream media including the New York Times, FOX News, MSNBC, the Miami Herald, the Washington Post, the Detroit News and the Associated Press.  Mr. Silverstein is also a regular speaker at conferences throughout the world (United States, Canada, Colombia, Netherlands) and has made countless presentations related to topics and issues that affect the adult industry and online marketplace.  Amongst his numerous professional affiliations, Mr. Silverstein is a member of the First Amendment Lawyers Association (FALA). Myadultattorney.com is a website dedicated to the representation of adult industry clientele. Mr. Silverstein can be reached through Myadultattorney.com or by email at corey@myadultattorney.com. Mr. Silverstein can also be contacted by telephone at 248-290-0655.

My Non Verbatim Show Notes: 

CS: been in adult entertainment industry approx 15 years, law firm dedicated to adult ent, represent clients in more than 13 countries, harder in covid19 era to get with clients, crazy time period, government assistance package, funds used up, sba tapped allotment, provisions in the sba loan apps in essence disqualified certain adult entertainment, lawsuit filed in MI, strip club challenging constitutionality

phone ringing off the hook, issues coming in from all over the place

performers some never been busier, some can’t pay bills

Michelle from FSC, horrendous personal ordeal, suffering, being separated from families, wild right now

TP: dualities of different opportunities, liabilities, emergent properties, even preppers realize they have all these holes in their ship, didn’t factor in

xbiz newsletter, Utah legislation, warning label

CS: utah bill did become law, even though gov didn’t sign

telling sign, gov wanted nothing to do with

conversations with clients, each person needs to consult with own counsel

so poorly written, difficult time finding people to comply, virtually mandates you admit your content may be obscene

ridiculous

if someone does get fined, suspect pretty quick, constitutional lawyer pick up the challenge, unconstitutional

poorly thought out provision, state of utah, substantial religious motivations, shouldn’t surprise you, nothing new, unbinding declaration porn is health crisis

another reminder, always someone out there with an agenda to try to politicize adult entertainment

TP: web application firewall, not possible geo fence state ip ranges,

CS: uk age verification law, not hold, dead

TP: can’t geofence ip ranges for a specific united state, terms and conditions, not allowed to access website if resident of this state, if you do, violating terms, you can’t really enforce that, not using mechanism, does that have any protection

CS: don’t think answer to utah law, is to contract a way out of it, way its written takes presumption all adult content is obscene, have to label site as such, don’t see any way around it, someone will challenge as unconstitutional, wouldn’t take position to try to contractually limit it

there is some technology out there to ban state traffic, acts as admission you believe content obscene

already have federal obscenity test, articulated by us supreme court, as much as utah would like to define obscene content, eliminate adult entertainment as they see it, federal case law differs

TP: clarity on terms, realizing I take for granted they’re gonna think everything is obscene, operating on their terms,

CS: gotta read language very carefully, want you to write statement, adult content harmful to minors, whatever exact language is, utah once again went way to far, silly, nothing more than some politicians…want to run for office often say a lot of things, crack down on this/that, promise part of far right, curb back pornography, very telling, governor wouldn’t sign it

TP: bill in california, would impose dmv style license or food handlers license exam for anyone in adult entertainment activities, cam models, porn shooots, all forms of sex workers, what’s your take on that

CS: ab 2389, scarlet letter provision, state of california, article in xbiz, wrote about this topic, bill that would prohibit adult entertainers/performers unless received certificate of training completing regarding employment rights

originally language said needed valid business license, would have required adult entertainers to go to state of ca, proof took course, fill out application, fee, finger print, state directory of adult entertainers being held by state of ca

possiblyi one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen,

reminded of scarlet letter, young lady who was alleged of adultery, required to run around with giant letter stapled on her

when I see statutes like this come out, who even thinks this stuff up

originally two supporters, one of them dropped out, backlash was massive

quickly amended it, has not become law as of yet, I don’t think it will pass

ca already had wars with adult entertainment industry in the last couple of years, not sure they want to end up in courts with this one, hopeful common sense will make them realize this is just a stupid idea

can understand, state of ca, wants adult entertainment workers educated, don’t see how its their right to mandate education

not a supporter, horrible for industry

for individual rights, think this is a massive step backwards

question true motivation, politicians behind this thing

this bill has not passed

lot of laws…get proposed never become actual laws

TP: interview with several officers several of the high ranking folks at the international entertainment adult union, original source of pressure on legislators to collaborate on crafting the language for this, govt, hammer that only sees nails, boilerplate language and strategy, compelling people to dox themselves, trusting gov to have digital honey pot database, hacker dream come true to exploit, data breech, applicable privacy laws, you’d never want to give them more information than they already have to do their own work to try to collect

spirit of it, opinion, I believe they adult performer advocacy committee has an industry voluntary stamp of approve for their standard of set rights, education or performers, website production house does their training, complies with their list, that’s where you want to go, industry self policing to standards that are worked out between actual stakeholders, not involving gov agencies, conflicts of interest, slow, ineffectual

CS: industry filled with a lot of different trade organizations, tremendous work, amazing results, free speech coalition, woodhull freedom foundation

I wasn’t there, don’t know what was going on behind the scenes, in front…never get the whole story

don’t think this was thought out well

not saying anyone had bad intent, suggesting this wasn’t thought out very well

when it comes to adult entertainment, it’s all about free speech,

rules regulations, certiications, another steop closer that you’re walking on top of people’s first amendment rights, always urge tremendous amount of caution

gov should be talking to trade orgs

listened …more to industries ideas regarding 2257 we wouldn’t be a 15 year court battle, however many years

goes both ways

in this particular case, no doubt…as to what this thing can do, …tramples first amendment

hard time to believe any adult entertainment entrepreneur would support this bill

TP: gov just wants to take money, give an inch take a mile, unlike a lot of other industries, one of the few where regulators aren’t in revolving door with industry

anywhere expect to be collusion/corruption, perverse incentives

CS: big issues, lot of politicians want to talk about it, soap boxes…won’t have telephone conversation, won’t meet with actual sex worker…that’s the problem…heart of fosta/cesta, any sex worker on planet, ask whether done any good, answers gonna be no, 9 times out of 10, nothing new hear,

does it really help, does it change anything on the ground, it doesn’t what’s what we’re seeing with fosta/cesta

brilliant lawyers involved [fosta/cesta] case, successful in court of appeals, message to trial court, sex workers have a legitimate argument, deserve day in court…hoping…more victories

TP: monkey wrentch in gears of court procedings, coronavirus, futurism mode, what do you think prospects are, whore-archy, come together organize, sex worker outreach project, doing fantastic work, could you imagine that this economic collapse/crisis after effects long term could their be an impetus to fight back against prohibition of sex work in general, reverse backlash

I could see a lot of people going into sex work, people who never would have thought about this before, have to do, because its the only thing people are paying for

CS: here’s the thing, simple fact…you can continue to pass ridiculous laws, base them on whatever you want to base them on, fact is, sex workers…not going to stop, fosta/cesta ill conceived

covid19 era, totally different world, people really should be exercising social distancing, limiting contact with other human beings…sex industry probably greatly been affected as well…notion, thought, this is where gov is wrong, that they can just keep passing laws and that’s someone gonna stop it isn’t gonna work, that’s not who you solve problems

other countries throughout the world that have legalized prostitution, that have legalized different forms of sex work that here in the us are illegal…seen crimes against sex workers with proper legalization/protocols, actually much safer

getting into issue, reality, politics, agendas, belief systems not based on fact, religious beliefs or whatever

I don’t see sex work necessarily going away, disappearing, do believe pandemic has hurt that industry very much…responsible people should be social distancing…minimize contact with other human beings…stop the spread of this aweful virus

when this is all over…getting back to normal…don’t think the sex work industry is a gonna skip a beat..

TP: new baby boom, 9 months from the vaccine roll out

CS: pregnancy through the roof, divorce through the roof, people married forever never had to spend this much time together in their lives…now they’re getting to know

TP: internet bandwidth, 5g tin foil hat, people got their netflix, zoom

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CS: netflix has admitted, changed policies, limited…people have to make tough decisions to protect their networks, don’t fault them, probably a good thing proactive

TP: if you’re savy and healthy you could really ethically capitalize on new niches of oppportunity, survivors and winners are gonna be the big winners, hopefully not just bailed out fortune 500

crypto, stable coins taking up market share

any thoughts on state of crypto for adult

gonna be stress tested by covid era as well

CS: crypto is and continues to be a long term play, don’t believe crypto will be running the world over night

icos folded up, shit coins, a lot of those fold up and go away

adult crypto continues to be accepted,

if you follow wall street, crypto now accepted, mutual funds, canadian stock market, mainstream legit financial branches accepting crypto, continue to be excellent tool for adult, any adult business needs to consider their future with crypto, have to have as potential option, still believe in it

a lot of junk out there, bad players, but industry has been weeding those out

look at dozens if not hundreds of “coins” that have basically disappeared, that’s not the worst step

crypto will continue to grow in adult space

learn about it, understand, don’t have to be afraid of

old school politicians want you to think crypto is a bad thing

crypto currency, blockchain can be used for so much more

big growth as more people..less intimated by it

bitcoin…still off all time high…tremendous amount of growth potential

TP: proving itself out more and more everyday,

thoughts on libra

CS: I don’t think libra’s gonna work, don’t think you can call it a cryptocurrency

are they using blockchain technology on the backend, yeah, do I consider it a cryptocurrency no

I won’t use it

google plus,

TP: in recycling bin of time

CS: think about how many people who don’t have debit cards, local branch of bank is closed…because covid…crypto currency never closes ever

TP: coins are hygienic as you could ever get

CS: bitcoin article, they use gold coin with b and dollar sign, stop doing that…segment of people that thinks it’s a real thing…no how it works…hopefully people will see past that

TP: earn it act

CS: end of the world!

Longer conversation, probably gonna have to dedicate more of a conversation, lot of history, premise of bill, as of right now…website can benefit from section 230, earn it act wants to do…flip that around…as opposed to automatic section 230 immunity you would have had to “earn it”

problem is…not entirely clear on what exactly companies would have to do to earn it

sets back free speech on internet tremendously

section 230, internet companies cannot be held liable for positing of users, now though…when you change that around, …onus on internet companies to start…monitor/police content…cut at the heart of what section 230 is supposed to do…in terms of freedom of speech

gov…access to encryption, a little new still, no one is completely clear…on what they’re asking for

require encryption but they have the key…terrifying…

act itself needs to be watched very carefully

anyone in IT business, search engine…online store…

need to be very careful about, need to be watching it

companies now fighting it

there’s gonna be a lot of resistance…big companies, facebook, etc. I think they’ll be fighting it hard…but…some will support it

don’t think this is good

another example of attacking free speech on internet, policing content on the internet, don’t think that’s good at all

internet…greatest inventions we’ve made

in this instance…start getting into this position, service providers responsible for content users post, going down that slippery slope

TP: could you imagine there would be a proactive constitutional amendment to explicitly protect strong encryption

CS: constitutional amendment, no

TP: just precedent set?

CS: we have to keep protecting section 230, anybody who attacks section 230 is attacking the IT industry, attacking free speech on the internet

wake up, strongly take position, no we don’t want more holes being cut in section 230

earn it act, highly based on sexual exploitation of minors, that’s fine they’re saying that’s what it’s for, absolutely agree that’s an important issue, the way they’re doing it…like taking a bazuka to eliminate an ant hill

just doesn’t make any sense

gov has to get smarter

age of internet people are smarter

reading, want to know about these laws

years ago gov had it a lot easier to slip things into bills

big believer in free and open internet

TP: thank you so much, covered so much material, invigorating

very reassuring, thank you so much for doing all the work that you do, on behalf of free speech for all, adult entertainers/performers, industry ecosystem

closing thoughts

CS: everybody stay safe, be smart, take care of love ones, make sure you’re doing the best you can in terms of social distancing, each person can do just a little bit to help stop the spread

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The Bull Case for Bitcoin in the Covid-19 Era with Peter McCormack TPP276

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In this episode I’m joined again by my brother in Bitcoin and metal, Peter McCormack, host of the What Bitcoin Did podcast for a timely exploration of bitcoin’s many apt use cases in the Covid-19 era

Please visit his website and podcast at:
https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/

And find him on Twitter at
https://twitter.com/petermccormack

My Non Verbatim Show Notes

TP: if there’s one podcast you listen to, What Bitcoin Did Podcast

PM: thanks for the intro, love the last show we made, talked about metal

government vs liberty, misinformation

enjoying cooking, exercise, time with children, processing strange time

TP: echo of satoshi’s voice, I told you so, proving out every fundamental thesis, right now in super concentrated form, positive response, I’m not technical analyst, bitcoin still leading all of crypto, is some from of safe haven, hedge, uncorrelated, continues to show gains, best performing asset the history of money, selling points, or study points

PM: never want to go too far, one of most important things I did with bitcoin, about a year ago, stopped checking price, sold on my thesis, hedge against government fuckery, fiat dying, insurance against a lot of things, investments made, not selling any for 10 years, stuck with that for a year, doesn’t matter what the price is done, that said, if you don’t own bitcoin, never been a better time to look into it, do some research

at a conference, mass adoption, we have mass awareness, most people have heard of it, don’t have mass adoption for a reason, some reason they’re not buying, could be for a number of reason, weird magic internet money, reality is, over long enough time frame, always proven to be a success, scarce asset, limited supply value will always go up

governments printing money, us dollar global reserve currency, with everything happening now, weird government decisions, reason to question government/money, research bitcoin, if you think you need a hedge/insurance, maybe its the time to buy

TP: hesitant to be a shill, go out and buy, coinbase statements about 1,200 stimulus checks, don’t invest money, invest time understanding it, if you can answer certain question, andreas antonopolis youtube binge party quiz

like to see speculative hype energy to closing the loop of products and services, like New Hampshire, the end to end, real peer to peer, narrative, can’t trust government, can’t trust money, beyond hype bubble, use it for peer to peer electronic cash, more circulating

PM: wouldn’t put all money in anything right now, weight out risk/reward, healthy hold some bitcoin, some gold, some cash, some physically some in the bank, have a spread in case one blows up, in a bad way

peer to peer cash, strange one, white paper, has to be a store of value before medium of exchange, I don’t think it’s a death nail for people not to be spending, people may spend it, is it coffee, betting, buying a house, whatever people choose

what do I spend it on, buying people, donating, I get paid in bitcoin, I don’t spend bitcoin on every purchase, depends on user, don’t need to push any specific use case, find the use case that fits you, some people censorship resistant spending, investing, hodling, capital controls, people can find own use case, don’t need to push a narrative

TP: enlighten people about use cases in hyper inflated economies

meme coin, orange coin good, number go up, robust and healthy memes, strategies for people in different circumstances, bitcoin podcast, crew massage this notion of hodl plus, be a hodler, but when you can have gains that provide life changing event potential, paying off debts, not be in mind fuck, when do I take money of the table, if you can do something that radically transforms your life,

then notion of spend and replace, buy something with bitcoin, to keep it circulating, take same fiat amount, place a trade try to get a discount buy, or just a market order, spend and replace

PM: number go up is a great meme, meme so important, bitcoin plays on human greed, get wealthy, buy something new, save for a future, capitalism is about green, desire to make more money, it’s what makes a capitalist economy tick, engine drives efficiency, desire, number go up is a great meme, truly works

however good the meme is, the reality is, how much does it suit you

Venezuela, hyper inflation, 90-5percent people can’t use it, people living on $5 a month, high transactions fees, fluctuation

but if you’re middle class or upper class you know you need bulivar, but don’t want to hold your money in it because it’s getting inflated you can hold bitcoin

Argentina, people used to having money seized

memes are memes

need to buy in to what bitcoin is, find a use case

TP: you’ve done a great job bringing light to the case of ross ulbrict, helping people understand, bitcoin was bootstrapped by the silk road, still to this day majority dark markets are still using bitcoin, not monero, not any other altcoin, or shit coin

your personal story of your mother’s need for medicine

PM: mom had cancer, wanted to get her cannabis oil, illegal in uk, had to buy on dark market with bitcoin, great case study, gave me the option, option of buying cannabis oil, based on morality of government, uk can’t buy it, illegal drug, bullshit, don’t care what government thinks, treatment for my mother, 3 tools bitcoin, tor, plus the website, enabled me to buy treatment for my mother, get around bullshit of government. Other people want cannabis oil for treatment, could be for somebody suffering from anxiety, child with epilepsy, whatever, enables to buy for treatment

victimless crimes, government wants to punishment, great thing about bitcoin allows you to get around that bullshit

TP: of all critiques of bitcoin, I appreciated what Edward Snowden said, potential existential threat to bitcoin, tracking, not fungible

interview with chainalysis, people believed in pseudoanonymity

jameson lopp could give primer on how to go dark with best practices to do transactions, now with more spot lights on you, vpn, tor, always a moving target, advise people on staying private

PM: if you’re a tech nerd, proficient in computers, understand all of this, you can set up perfect privacy, tor, you can still leak out information, easy to make small mistake, perfect privacy is really hard, some people can figure it out, I can’t I know I’d make mistakes, I don’t know how you could do it, lot of work, waiting for day when it’s all abstracted away

TP: could you explain trade offs, trust minimized digital currency across the internet, intro series that just came out

PM: as soon as you use an exchange, KYC you, attached to your identity, you can use coin join, tool allows you to essentially anonymize your coins, gets super technical, beyond me, pretty sure you can coin join coins, problem, you try to move them to certain services, they’re gonna block you, flagged as something companies don’t want to deal with

most important thing you could do is a set up an anonymous wallet, buy bitcoin for cash on the street, you can mine, it couple other ways, for common man, no solid easy way to have full anonymity

TP: it takes just one nanosecond of internet going up before VPN connects, run by an agency, local bitcoins, hyper regulation, a lot of chilling effects, in covid-era, a lot more black and gray market, medicine, food, contraband of all kinds, weapons for defense,

argentina financial collapse, not mad max over night, just encroachment of more crime, need for more security

grey market exchange, if government has their hands full

PM: best way to get bitcoin is to earn it, not attached to you, mining, meet in person, buy bitcoin, obvious and easy ways, but everything now is kyc, sad, annoying,

TP: I think earning is a great idea, of your studies, what are most compelling scenarios, how can people earn or do something that people tip you for, trace mayer, setting up own wallet yourself or with service

stories of how people earn it

PM: earning it, andreas, talks about, bitcoin you earn you really enjoy it, all I can tell you is you can do, you can create a wallet you get paid in bitcoin, I pay a lot of people in bitcoin these days, enjoy doing it, enjoy supporting economy, I don’t really talk to people who’ve done it, don’t want to dox them

TP: some of my favorite bitcoiners in the space, Alex Gladstein, some one very public, digest of feelings about his work, if you want to be donating to causes, humanitarian work, charitable bitcoin organizations

PM: Big fan of Alex, because of him I set up second show defiance, am now making films, human rights foundation, want to end tyranny, expose authoritarian states, cruely unleashed on people, lack of freedom you get, he recognizes over half the planet people live in authoritarian regimes, have no freedom, bitcoin opportunity to exit, vote out, might not have ability to vote for leaders, they can vote out of the economy, china, get around capital controls, turkey, iran, avoid hyper inflation, buy something you can’t buy

he’s taking bitcoin beyond that la, san fran, new york, london speculation, he’s taking it to people who actually need it

TP: one of my favorite guys to listen to, for the people haven’t really been down the rabbit hold, covid 19 era, understanding, can’t explain glossary jargon, economics, history ledgers, do understand simply, something you can expand on, what is soft money, hard money, sound money, should be household terms now we have government financial fuckery on steroids, created for money printer go brrrr, devaluing, flooding market with currency, like an insidious tax that never ends

PM: most people think of money as cash, pounds or dollars, survive day to day, don’t ever think about properties of money compare, bitcoin, gold, and fiat, analyze in terms of how good, grade them, fiat, pretty good, pretty fungilbe, portable, verify, easily divisible, problem its not scarce, when government needs more money they just printed, the more there is the less it is worth, dollar or pound value just drops and drops,

gold definitely scarce, bitcoin scarce only 21million, scarce gives more value, durability, portability, hardest money has highest rating on all these factors,

people will defer to the hardest form of money

if they keep printing fiat money, it’s not gonna end up good

TP: you can make all the covid 19, quarantine jokes you want until someone close to you dies, ways it’s impacted me 100% thanks to bitcoin I have a financial strategy that’s making me far more robust in these times than have just been bleeding money out and not saving and not holding, I owe a lot to satoshi and network

there’s a bit of a cynical chuckle when I see the government fail so miserably, so parasitic, comes time for them to give tiny fraction of bail out money to the people, consumers, how simple it would have been to press a button, bitcoin network, during 2017 bubble, multiple us states we accept taxes in bitcoin, well send it back to my address thing, they want to take fiat taxes, and bitcoin

the spirit of satoshi, ten years later, the need for it, and what’s been revealed about the governments

PM: views are slightly controversial, yes the government is completely incompetent, abuse financial system, print money, use to fight wars, stupid shit, all that is true, at the same time, are we ready for an entire economy based on bitcoin, I don’t think we are, technically not ready, not educated, people don’t really want to be self sovereign, father wants insured bank account, that’s reality,

we can get all excited, hyper bitcoinization, a lot of people don’t have skills to use bitcoin in that way, we’re talking about a parallel world,

still have to go from bitcoin back to fiat, spirit of satoshi is alive, hyperbitcoinization, maybe, seems unlikely, does give opportunity to vote ourselves out, government can’t stop you

more realistic about how that will happen, what are the steps, if it can’t happen what’s getting in it’s way, support ideas of freedom, taking down government is hard, people are conditioned to enjoy having the state

people live in democracy, are happy with it, I could be bitcoin cheerleader, fuck the government, take them down, have to be realistic

bitcoin taken us in positive direction

really touch and complicated questions

TP: on realistic camp, I have my wild fantasies of crypto anarchy, sci fi, cyber punk, cypher punk, hacking the matrix, but it’s gonna be a multigeneration process, historical events continuing, white paper, functionally the systems we rely on, government incompetence,

chills I got from watching one of first andreas videos, called bitcoin guru, spoke in early days to financial or technology committee in canada, wrote powerful essay, indicted everything historically corrupt about currencies, explained, peer to peer networks, tool of the people has to be understood and embraced

do not underestimate this, governors of wyoming and colorado, crypto friendly , realistic, not so much about replacing all fiat, chopping head off government

but implementing math, computer science

are there actors within government or processes happening in regulation that you feel are validating and hopeful, hybrid between crypto anarchy and crypto-statism

PM: no, state just wants control

ban bitcoin in china, massive step to ban bitcoin in us, jobs lost, uprising, what can they do, just regulate the fuck out of it, dont see as nice compromise, they see no benefits, they would love to get rid of it, only doing this because they have to, don’t see any nice comfortable relationship government, they’re gonna regulate it

if it continues to grow and becomes a threat they’ll ban it

TP: you could say it’s parasitic in its nature, will continue to exploit and abuse, best arguments iv’e heard, if we had local governance, transparent financial ecosystem, community voluntary tax, people in community agree to give up percentage of wealth to help solve problems we all agree on, preventing child abuse or stopping people from smoking plants or eating fungus,

could you see models where people, in defiance of governments, we’re gonna solf our own problems not by socialism, or top down, but self managed mutual aid networks, making services of governments obsolete, crypto anarchism

PM: if they try to replace a government services, can’t see how that works, government allow it, doesn’t mean you can’t have crowdfunding project, raise money through bitcoin, replacing government will be very difficult, smaller voluntary acts, pay in bitcoin, don’t declare, micro shadow economy builds up, get into the realm of the citadel idea, sounds interesting, don’t see government saying yeah you can be autonomous

TP: Erik Vorhees, its about moving in direction fo more freedom and autonomy

PM: I think I said I can’t even picture this libertarian world, one of my issues its a great idea, but requires everyone to be a libertarian, might just be greedy with guns who just rob people, gangs warlords, assumption is everyone in libertarian society , everybody is libertarian

TP: not about getting 100% of night

PM: lets just talk about having less government, 5% or even 1% just move towards less government, are we happier, maybe, has to happen step by step

TP: the prepper fantasies, zombie apocalypse, new world order, red dawn, more plausibility to any number of collapse scenarios, apocalypse porn, people want security in an area no longer being heavily patrolled, bitcoin militia, more practical, farming/growing co-ops, new hampshire,

PM: do want to go out to new hampshire, really do, haven’t been out there

TP: really heart warming stuff, believe voorees was there, porq fest, full loop peer to peer off government rails, not the first time, hippie back to the land co-ops, time banks, local currencies, precedent for displacing government service

government will tax you and take money from you weather you like it or not, policing, city codes, impose rules,

other type, buy their services, make them obsolete, they’re taking money from you, don’t give them money if you don’t have to, buy peer to peer

timeliness and timelessness of this revolution,not necessarily hyperbitcoinization, moving towards less volatility more stability, belief that when the whales who are sucking up huge portions of the market, manipulate, pump and dump, flood the market, macro, financialization, potentially abuse of its nature, to create fractional reserves, leveraging, fuckery, as the little guy, retail investor, hodler of last resort, in major crash, black thursday, a few weeks ago, data that came out, really hopeful for those who are looking towards this effect, big whales get nervous, liquidated all assets into fiat, opportunity for commando hodlers to buy that dip and spunge up that supply tighten that drum, poor people mop it up, rich people don’t need it, dump it, every time that happens, one drop at a time, that’s what moves to towards more reliable, less volatile, more commoner, usability, we don’t care about the lambo

PM: care a little bit about the Lambo,

TP: used to have lambo posters, hack it make more eco, reliability, more stability

PM: forget about price, buy into the core ethics, the core idea, its an exit from government, the only money you can truly own and not be taken from you, you can hold it in your head, hide seed in your head if you memorizing, don’t recommended, can’t be stolen

buy into the mindset, play the long game, buy, stack sats, hold out for decade, see what happens, put in whatever you’re welling to risk losing, we don’t know when volatility will end

TP: paying premium for immutability, paying for security, time stamping, notarization, immutabilty as a service, what I’m gonna take away from this conversation, the most valuable thing for me, I pipe in a lot of podcast, hodler of last resort, want to have more tools to explain to people why they should participate in the movement, risk minimized, simplest way, say have you ever joined a club, not necessarily you’re paying for a gym you like the people, like twelve steps, you pass the hat, I have been in recovery have put in dues, if putting in the dues, holding the network together, hold a couple of chips, hold a couple coins, not checking the price everyday, supporting movement because its’ healing me, enhancing my life, I value the people, those moments of epiphany, hats off to you Peter, stepped up in a huge away, humanness, feeling of being a part of something, it’s cold faceless governments

when I hang out at bitcoin meet up, or podcast like yours, inclusiveness, solidarity, links, thoughts to wrap up, appreciate you being here, top favorite metal bands

PM: appreciate you having me on, two shows, what bitcoin did, defiance.news, made films, metal at the moment, Ghost Inside, been around a few years, 3 years ago, tour bus crash, driver was killed, drummer lost half a leg, last year played gig in la, flew out went to the gig, afterrmath, drummer new drum kit, plays with one leg

TP: hopefully we’ll take again soon and under better global health circumstances

 

 

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Seeding the Transapocalyptic Cypherpunk Cryptopia with Vin Armani TPP275

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In this episode I’m joined by Vin Armani for another epic dialog about the transformative intersections of bitcoin, crypto-anarchy, crypto-savagery, state craft, ecology, permaculture, shamanism, futurism, and much more

Please visit Vin’s website at https://vinarmani.com/

About Vin:

Vin Armani is a philosopher, serial tech entrepreneur, and CryptoSavage. He is the host of The Vin Armani Show on Activist Post. In addition to being an author and speaker, he has made his living as a television star, film producer, high-end male escort, software developer, art gallerist, pirate radio station operator, DJ, music producer, and motorcycle courier. He studied Philosophy at Howard University.

My Non Verbatim Show Notes

been preparing for a long time

very weird experience

conspiracy theorists, broader understanding of the shift to come

people’s who’s eyes have been open for more than half a century

orwell, we’re in an orwellian moment, 1984 was a prophecy

wrote in 1948, doesn’t mention year in the book, publisher, 1984

4 years ago, youtube, playlists, series called ascendent project, 2016

right before vin armani show

thesis of presentation, 8 hours

announcement that the shift is here, way I believe, what will look like, based upon, teaching of the human social cycle, from Indian guru, Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar

Ananda Marga

book series, spoken word, transcribed

work that affected me profoundly, got a hold of from adherents from group

progressive utilization theory

described, the human social cycle

the indian caste system, 4 varnas

vaisya

brahmin

ksatriya

sudra

description of energies within human cycle, influence world in different way every human has energies moving through, dominant in a person, in eras

eras move in a cycle from peasant, to warrior, rises as chief, utilize will and strength as hero, becomes a king

eternal game of paper scissor rock

thinker energy dominates the king, church, priests, dominant

corruption of church comes through money

large cycles through history

within those cycles small cycles

within each of us have cycles

ideas moved into the west

notice, that’s the same 4 energies of the tarot, suits of the tarot, club, sword, chalice, cup, pentacle, coin

cards, clubs, spades, hearts blood of christ, diamond, instead of coin

what he had presented was idea that we had moved through the commoner time, thinker time, through warrior time, the great kings, through the thinker time, enlightenment, into his time writing in 70s emergence of vaisya age corporations, banks, beasts,

the corpus christi, the body of christ being the church, thinker time, corporation, legal persons corporate entities, banks, vaisya age

bitcion, crypto currency, vegas, solidified vaisya coming to full throat, it was going to tip over the top from golden age to corrupt age, coming very soon

what emerges from out of that on the wheel, starts over, grand reset back to sudra, commoner, state of nature, little specialization, little centralization, decentralized, generalized

daniel quinn, ishmael books, fantastic, 100% survival value, ancestors 12 year old, indigenous society, could drop in middle of environment and they would survival, had all skills of entire culture, male or female, hunt fish, build home, start a fire, make clothes, herbs, poison

sings weather would change

all these things they knew before adult

very decentralized,

from self sufficiency to efficiency

path, escathon, crescendo, time is speeding up terrence mckenna

end moment

all of the signs, its a virus

everyone has become the enemy, invisible, everyone is enemy

goes to say it is the vaisya energy recognizing the rise of sudra energy being very scared

wondered, 20 years ago discovered this thought, working with it, through this time, what does that look like, 2000 I see we’re in vaisya age, corporate, banking business age, what does it look like, before bitcoin,

what does that even look like, communism, socialism, what does it even look like that it would fracture back down into decentralized commoner, 100% survival value

kernal of new rebirth of age, bitcoin is a harbinger, one of many tools, cryptography, incredible useful, self sufficiency in general

more people, not agriculture by nature, figuring out how to be self sufficient, protein produce, energy, electricity

been called preppers, out there conspiracy theorist, already shutting off food supply shutting off money, choice people dwindle

those who have figured out how to fully imbrace the sudra nature, will rise

old nature in decline, new era on it’s way up

TP: meek shall inherit the earth

VA: wheel turning at any given time what is rising is always the meek

in sudra age, hero rising is the meek, hero isn’t the king, it’s the audacious boy

at the time of the kings, when king fully risen the advisor, the priest the thinker is not the prime minister he’s a boy who interprets dream whose in cell

pharoah relied on boy, that’s the meek

time of kings, napoleonic wars, can’t feed army, can’t get right kind of gold coins, london, looking for solutions, smuggler of gold times, rothchild family, get right coins, meek businessman, grey market, smuggling gold, credit schemes, a hustler, reach out to him

the meek the inherit the earth, now is the time for that again

TP: inner geek, crypto math computer science, geek will inherit the earth

VA: look at the archetype of the geek within the vaisya let’s say aesthetic, love vegas, complete shut down vaisya aesthetic, giant companies all about literally money, play with those cards, gold, hotels, nothing but money and the love of money, as opposed to silicon valley, holding all power, multibillionaires running companies, zuckerberg, wearing what he wears, they wouldn’t let him in a club in a vegas, wouldn’t let him in, bezos same thing, old pictures of bezos, those guys are the cross over of the really the vaisya creating sudra products, rise of social media, rise of twitter

hash tag movements, metoo, emergence of sudra, hieararchy flattening platforms , twitter account doesn’t have more features than prez, same app, same with facebook flattens hiearchy, emergence of decentralized consensus based organizational

hash tags started taking down the most powerful men in the world

what is a hashtag, it doesn’t even exist

exists purely as a psychological concept

not even like that hash tag is an option within twitter or facebook itself

TP: viral videos, age of virus, hashtag, snippet of genetic dna, replicates in cell of human mind, replicates through internet, just characters, abstracted, don’t have eyes, don’tknow what they’re doing, regenerating with retweets, as above so below, cyberdelic mind fuck

VA: in age of virus, of course it’s a virus how could it not be, network based organization versus hierarchy

interview wtth chris derose, block chain as a matriarchy and role of messiahs, emergence of network, spreading, the new power, to understand how power is organized have to understand the network

what we see going on with response to the corona virus, hiearchy, dealing very poorly with a network based crisis, virus has no hierarchy

TP: just packets

VA: bitcoin network gossip network, viral network, one to many, R naught, signed transaction, propagates to network, epidemological map, transaction copying self into mem pool,

TP: 8% of human dna, residual viral remants,

VA: blockchain is organic model

TP: do you trip on mycellial functionality of the way, don’t know what the science is, fungal hyphea connecting topsoil, trees on either coast send text message through ground

VA: networked, organic movement, organism, hierarchy can’t fight the mechanism, can’t fight organism, not equipped to do it, we developed hierarchy to fight against nature, turns you into one big organism, its very crude, might say, taken to their extreme, what you see in tyranny that is now with us, officially, organism trying to stay alive, imposes even more rigid order, things gotten a little too loose, out of control, desire to track everything, record eveything ultimate order, as opposed to the bitcoin idea of a system being robust in its unordered simplicity, just a system of rules, not working towards any particular end except to keep system going, traditional, sustainable, organic ethos of ancestors, the idea of cultures society, life in general, simply to continue it on to the next generation, not thinking there was some grand purpose

TP: multigenerational, tree stewardship, fabric of culture, indigenous wisdom, terrence mckenna, enter the violet doorway at the end of time, we will be street smart in the ways of demonic materialism and returned home to the family farm in eden, that would be that refreshing, resetting of that grand cycle

VA: got goosebumps, not heard exact quote, love it, beautiful, probably freestyled, so beautiful, god, command of english language, spin poetry almost make you cry, that’s was interesting because one of the insights that drove me to do ascendent project, looking at chapter 3 genesis, serpent, temptation, fall, the birth of sudra age, return to the garden

goosebumps, yeah, return to garden, figuratively and litterally, so interesting, though it was poignant, governer of michigan, prevented walmart from selling seeds

roped off, full racks of seeds roped off with caution tape

non essential items all garden supplies seeds, literally there, the people who are getting photos and videos that’s crazy I can’t be these seeds, saw this starting to happen, I’ve moved family, not ready to dox self, remote island, pretty self sufficient, probably making public in the future where exactly I am, place I see as a return to the garden, but with that same street smartness, it’s not about throwing out technology, dipping out, off grid, why would you give up the wisdom of your ancestors over the past hundreds of years, why give up grid idea, interconnectedness

bitcoin, idea is not to disconnect, idea is to connect peer to peer minus the intermediary, it’s the intermediary that’s the problem

what’s the problem with the seed sales at walmart, problem is its walmart, guaranteed the person the put the seeds in that package, supply of seeds

but neighbor would sell it to you

TP: you can buy plantable produce from the grocery store, front lines of professional food sector, gardener, step up, minimal interactions I’ve had, if you can’t buy seeds or being gouged for prices, 1/3 or produce can be harvested for its vegetable product and then replanted, beets, onions, garlic, potatoes, eat most of it and still plant it, viablle, propagation, deprived of seeds, plant groceries after eat half or more

VA: this is the return to the garden, this knowledge, in moving to where I’m at, interesting thing, culture here, native culture strong, people who are original people very much in control of politics of island, out in morning, there’s all the people still fishing in traditional ways, 50 feet from house, right on beach 4 fisherman, outrigger canoe launched off beach

corruption of outside world, hand outs, desire of tourism, businesses, to pay these folks, to provide money, as a opposed to them sustaining themselves in they way they had, some wisdom gets lost, situation in now, people lost all that really struggling, guy out there fishing, isn’t even trippin, what crisis

its the finding of the resources that are there, even as you said, your grocery store is a garden store, realizing that, the produce section is a garden store, light years ahead

TP: its all kind circling back to another terrence mckenna prophecy, living in prototype of dream of avatars, virtual reality, shrinking your physical foot print on earth. Letting nature regrow around you foraging in wild abundant nature, get kicks and giggles from interacting on line, not needing to fly all over the place,people are already going to wake up tomorrow and be like we can get kicks and giggles touring museums in 3d virtuality, let the wild animals take over the streets, hoped people would voluntarily participate in live simply, easy way or hard way, easy way too late for that

VA: unfortunately everyones gonna be living simply, economic state of the world has changed, consumerism, waste is done as we know it

TP: party’s over

VA: drastic waste in short term, supplies, milk dumped down drain, fields go fallow supply chains broken, body of consumerism dying, variety will be greatly reduced, millenia generation, ability to be satisfied in digital realm to great degree, gen z, they will be able to really, many very happy to have consumerism go away, simplicity, dystopian futurist, 4 walls ceiling, living in closet doesn’t matter virtual universe, william gibson called consensual hallucenation so vast so satifying, won’t matter that your’e living in a tomb, basicallyi entombed

matrix

TP: what if you take that classic scene of neo unplugging in that pod, instead, unplugs consensual connection, p2p network, pops lid on pod, harvest some greens in his garden in hawaii, utopian, people’s matrix, not marxian, peer to peer nature, crypt enabled

VA: mckenna seeing the eschaton, combining multiple aspects, logical progression of series of different streams, at any given time, streams of consciousness, lifestyles, really streams of consciousness evolve on own, music scene, artistic scene, style of tech, physical pursuit, sport, what it looks like 100 years ago, not what it looks like in the future, subculture, two ideals, the return to the garden, plus the high level of interconnectedness, both to extreme combined into one, not the case initially, thesis and anti-thesis, our generation we’ll get one or the other, access in early going, access to consensual hallucenation, dependent on acquiesance to new world order, living in box, universal basic income, money aspect will go away, it’s a prison, you get fed 3 meals a day, same clothes, same style of home, put into matrix, human experience plays out, old vestiges of voting, virtual sports, status hiearchyies

TP: video game simulation, elon musk what happens if mars comes to us and we’re now astronauts on our own planet, people in bubble costumes, logan’s run concept

bitcoin was the birth of the multiplicity, libra hearings was death of singularity

VA: about right, funny in my book self ownership, last section is on the concept I called the crypto savage

the attempt to merge the old order and new order, will be attempted will fail, that’s what libra was, we can have this thing that’s at scale, out there with an established company, no you can not, interesting, congress people speaking positively about bitcoin, good, tech can grow, they don’t fear it at all, to them it can’t be a threat because it can’t organize in the way they understand organization to be, facebook is organized in a way they understand to be a threat, they understand corporations have power, no coporation for bitcoin, no company, no leader, no ceo no country, no structures they recognize as dangerous, just a network of nodes, passing info, storing info viral network, viruses aren’t threats to them, just saw that play out, don’t understand threat profile of virus, don’t understand how to respond to it in a way they don’t kill themselves in the process

what I say is the other side of eschaton, bitcoin can play a role, matrix version is the thesis, bitcoin is the anti-thesis, synthsis, you get both, mckennas idea, post eschaton, new age, restart

escanton, rame together, big bang, big suprise, post escaton, new material, move or what we’re talking about

indviiduals sustaining themselves off grid by necessity if they don’t they’ll be caught up into the web, very hard life

comparatively, to having everything handed to you, hard life to be self sufficient, in terms of knowledge.

Anti thesis, includes bitcoin cryptography, the resources, ability, the supply chains gone, reestablishing new supply chains, not illegal per se, like in 1984, writing in journal, wasn’t illegal, but if caught death sentence,

TP: earn it act

VA: cryptography is gonna be very different, play in their game, cryptography is out the window, telegram, signal gone relatively soon, cryptography as tool, unless you take away math, never take cryptography of out picture

concepts behind public key cryptography, level of computer science wherewithal, access to computer, computers ubiquitous, pgp, illiptical curve algo, library, released, send message on blockchain, post to address, only person with private key of that address could read it, data, message, write on the blockchain, old crypto tech, just sitting there, never be able to get rid of it

approach to crypto now, same as food, gonna have to learn to do it yourself

knowledge is not that hard, coding skills, pass around tools, libraries, minimal coding skills, if you’re a coders have simple libraries sitting around for cryptography, signatures for messages, for encrypting and decrypting files and messages, decentralized networks, get them up, share them around, get them out there, classes of people training people, offering coding classes, urgency hasn’t been there, picking that up again, waited for a while, people interested thought coding was cool, wanted to get a job in software, never viewed it that way, skill of liberty, knowing how to grow a garden, fix your car, change your oil, place like cuba, no important of new cars, parts hard to come by, artistry of keeping car running 70 years

TP: difference between dude and man, when something breaks at dudes house, calls the man to fix it

VA: love that, just perfect, the sudra era, shortest, commoner era, flatting of hierarchy 100% survival value, shortest because heros emerge quickly, dude and man, man is the hero

TP: give shovels to neighbors, agorism,

VA: just the introduction, new world order doesn’t need to be commanded by evil geniouses, global network of communications, perverse incentives, track you in digital life, know everything about you, extend it into physical world, internet of things you’re a thing, move of taking this technology mapping, digital world on physical world and vis-versa, same old incentives, except physical world is a really a hindrence to the movement of digital world and digital powers that be, they don’t want you to leave cyber space, if you leave digital world you’re not an asset to them

that’s the crypto savage, build new peer to peer digital world running parallet to theres

TP goosebumps moment, post cyberpunk, snipes, stallone, dennis leary as crypto savage, only have cybersex, std plagues, don’t shake hands, social distancing, speak profanity, ticket pops out, but would be a crypto/libra wallet,

VA: demolition man, brave new world, aldous huxley, george orwell, great sci fi, is really a study of human nature, that’s what makes it great, technology is just a idea of logical progression, what do we have now, progress this out, almost always dystopian, everything that moves forward, tech, language, physical tool, organizational structure, always moves towards corruption, sci fi, what does this look like when it’s corrupted, used in worst

TP: Craig Wright trying to patent open source software

VA: reason why that’s important, narrative standpoint, crafting a story, in order for their to be a hero’s journey, role of hero, rebirth from out of corruption, have to show corrupt world, without no reason for hero, sci fi, fantasy, lord of the rings, star wars, the reason why those work well as hero’s stories, not limited in degree of corruption, take corruption to fullest, best enemies, best villains, heros journey, rebirth, story of christ is heros journey, ideal of hero, luke skywalker, froto baggins, neo ,same heroic archetype, arise in world completely corrupt, more corrupt it is more heroic their acts

TP be thankful for enemies, petty tyrants, don’t want b list, medicore actors in your life movie, good villains

VA: virus isn’t villain, virus is one ring to rule them all, who holds narrative, how will they use it, state will use narrative one ring to rule them all, not use opportunity to come together, bring people together, crisis how do humans overcome crisis, we come to gether, that’s how we overcome, super power, put aside old greivances, we have a real crisis, how we think, from movies, astroid is coming, or independence day movies aliens, nations of world put aside differences, actually no, that’s not what the state does, state is divide and conquer, social distancing is exact opposite of coming together to solve a problem

the one ring to rule them all, it’s all about how will you be ruled, peer to peer electronic cash system, disintermediation, come together in the network, come together

mask, can’t communicate, 80% nonverbal, can’t see facial expressions all of these things, this is the escaton, thesis is social distance, separate, divide and conquer,

anti-thesis, decentralized, peer to peer self sufficient, 100% survival value

TP protests, counter protests, astro turfing, new, I’m darkish, left social media, trust no one, trust people you already know

VA: protests are stupid if you’re protesting for them to reopen the economy you’ve already lost, protesting without a mask on, useful idiot, they’re in complete control of narrative, protests, we did a poll, majority of people support social distancing, keeping economy closed, propaganda, everybody supports it, maybe I should

protests, astroturfing aside, legitimate protesters, that’s going to fail, the die is cast momentum already there, going down a path, no question about it, no coming back, only thing you can do is take another path

rebellion is not out in the streets, the rebellion is in your garden

TP: peer to peer, bit torrent, permaculture party pack, 10s of gigs, pirated material, compiled videos, documents, audios, bundled in one torrent, how cuba survived peak oil, microcosm of when ussr collapsed, cut off cuba from fossil fuels, retrofit to organic garden, didn’t have chems coming in, modernish case study in not begging, not being juvenile, not to put down spirit and tradition of assembly and free speech, you can belly ache at the man while you’re tearing up the side walk, tear of the intersection, planted and don’t leave, reclaim the space with the last calories you have

VA: thanks for torrent, downloading it, spreading it, again its a virus, peer to peer many to many this is the other path that’s going to be taken, finding those locations, moved to what I believe is one of such locations, people have to find what calls to them and it will call to you, this came out of nowhere, interesting and notable, it had been in the back of my mind, things ramping up, flights cut off, countries cut off, timeline is sped up, tings reopen, opportunity, got out, literally on last plane to island, before cut off from all inbound, the common wealth, from all inbound and outbound traffic of people, not of cargo, not everybody had opportunity, not predicting and following for years as I have, don’ tneed it, if your’e listening to this, things are gonna open back up, tell everybody righ tnow, they’re going to get shut back down, open up for a little while, laset gasp opportunity last chance for many people to make that move, while things are still shut down, look around put energy in that direction, appropriate thing may come to you, may be stay where you’re at, bugging out m ay not be the thing if your social capital is local

famers markets informal economy, may be smartest thing to stay

allies, not just going cold, working contacts for months, had place to stay, people to show around, established, met within few days, opportunity, when it opens up and shuts down again, when it shuts down again its gonna shut down for a long time, because businesses have failed

second wave, governements getting used to it, allows them to print money

some people, not gonna matter where you are, you can be a valuable asset almost anywhere, community gonna need, underground railroad, taking people out of slavery through making them self sufficient, food knowledge, secondary encrypted network, riding on the internet, small separate encrypted network, invisible, running in this encrypted way through same wires

TP: if time get into the play by play of how inept the government stimulus, I can list off the hackers of world, exploiting stimulus check, insecure, poorliy thought out, every permaculture designer, swiss army knife, adapt to any environment, one of the preppers dilemmas, old school stereotypical doomsday peppers, bullets beans bandaids, no way I’m gonna grow a garden, I don’t want the zombies to see what I have and want to take it, paradox, better make beautiful abundant garden, share with neighbors, infect them with gardening meme, get them gardening have them want to protect you with all of their might because you were in a way responsible for their survival, they are your armor, reason to be a gardening prepper, actually help, like yesterday get these systems established

arms race of open source software, hackers developers, steps ahead of government, every use case for crypto elucidated, brought into the fore, clusterfuck, government that takes from you, doesn’t have any rails to give back in an emergency

VA: hacker writ large, orginal idea of term, permaculture is hacker culture, for sure, pick up artist days, panty hacking, its about hacking of the human psychosexual landscape, platform, machine, whatever you want to call it, the hacker is someone who is a voracious consumer and implementer of knowledge and wisdom, platform agnostic, environment independent, able to create a life for themselves whether in social environment, agricultural enviornment, mineraological,l technological, hacker idea, flattened decentralized generalist idea, non hierarchical, hacker wants to share, a hacker wants a community , more inputs for knowledge, value of being around a permaculture community, conversation we just had, permaculture party pack, told me what network, go on network, pull it, that is what community is about, social distancing powerful tool for tyrants, internactions can never happen

ceo of zapos, deliverying happiness, hiring on culture fit, weather that really works or not, remains to be seen, don’t know zappos has been particularly profitiable, make tony shay billionaire, developing downtown las vegas, collsions, employees within walking distance, apartment buildings, community, collisions, people would randomly run into each other, valuable knowledge skills, businesses or share information, help other businesses, connect people to each other, part of culture down there, the mode that is happening with social distancing, how that ripples second 3rd, 4th, order effects, ripple through culture, demolition man style, people aren’t able to have same economic activity, too scared to shake each others hands, had experience on island, recognized me from tv days, rapport, connection in meeting, everybody where masks, following along, wasn’t until 3rd meeting, 3 days got a chance to shake hands

TP: neo punk rock movement, people who signal their waiver, rebellion of people who say we have enough diy medicine shamans, in our community, neo tribe, rather die on feet than live on our knees, embrace chaos, embrace nature, virological chaos punks, new subculture, stark above ground underground, sci fi, underworld dwellers, social distancing, demerit tickets, deduct your central bank digital currency, above ground, hyper hiegene, culture, trusting big pharma, underground abandoned subways, not gonna come back in that paradigm

VA: a lot of these space, gonna be abandoned, underground will thrive on that carcass, that has been the way that history has moved always

TP: just balkanization of sorts

VA: roman empire, fell, didn’t fall, receded back to east, constantinople, byzantiane, empire survived a long time, until ottomans took, 1200 or something, 1000 years almost that the roman empire continued after what we call the fall of rome, receded, empire fell, but receded, not like everything just died

TP: although they did lose the recipe for concrete for hundreds of years, marveling at relics don’t know how they were built

VA: that’s the return to the garden, that is the story of adam, he’s marveling at the garden that was build by god, he didn’t have the skills to build that, lost from him, when kicked from it

fall of rome, trading all over place, decadent age, falls, recedes, farther outpost england, recedes from there, england falls into time of magic, arthurian lengends, merlin, after romans, with math, science, architure, advance language, finance, fell into magic, history had a break, came into mythological time, in the same way where much of the real world is going to be abandoned, the matrix again, the real world is going to be abandoned, no need for real world, living in virtual world, everything goes into virtual world, people will literally need to live in a closet, going out, going into matrix, virtual world, spending more and more time

TP: virus is acceleration of doom climate change, make the air unbreathable, going back to whole in ozone, shocking news, what does it look like if we burn off the atmosphere, mars comes to earth, living in bubble dome, synthetic, haven’t out of thin air be able to make food, definitely grow meat out of primordial ooze

VA: climate change narrative, don’t go out, seeing that, nature is reclaiming these spaces, people have wanted, this idea is perceived as positive, I don’t think we should see as positive

so the issue is when we put something qualitative on the idea nature is reclaiming these space, allegators in venice canals, air is clean, good thing, its simply quantitative, that’s what nature does, nothing posiitive or negative, if people go away from a place, nature recliams it

it takes incredible amounts of maintance for nature to not reclaim something, shit ton of time for it to look like human being s look there, nature will reclaim it while your’e living there, fight to keep nature out

the climate narrative, taken to logical conclusion its a death cult, kill people in that area, remove people from earth, nature takes back the earth, if people are gonna be there, people are going to behave in a certain way, work more inline with nature

we don’t have to do factory farming, we can do food forest, put human hand into, chosen what we want to grow there, if we didn’t do that nature would have chosen, and she might have chosen something we couldn’t eat, what will the human hand look like in this area, in this space, mental space or space of consciousness, will the human hand be benign and sustainable, or will it be pathological and parasitic

either one can generate vast amounts of resources, strip mining can create vast amounts but they’re gone after a while and they just leave a waste land

group that wants to social distance you, put you in pod, if you were taken from home, placed in jail cell, 6×9 cell for 30 years, nature will have retaken your home, is that a good thing?

The new ethos of this movement if there is to be an ethos, human beings are not bad, its not a death cult, it’s not about removing human beings, human beings have an ability to connect with something higher, or ability to fall to lowest of depths, end up with dystopian future, reach for something hire, beautiful and technological

TP: personal evolution, deep ecologist, misanthrope, permaculture not that there’s too many humans, its the behave of the humans that’s the problem, need everybody alive to participate, repair damage and clean up

to add to that point there is a book, thesis of 1491, part of it, entire amazon rainforest is bi-product of human habitation of landscape that was appropriate, lungs of planet wouldn’t have developed as they have it wasn’t for proto tribal villagers, foraging bands, duing horticulture gardening, bi-product scattering seeds with shit, appropriate shelters, creating conditions for more life

words of Geoff Lawton, most accomplished permaculturalist alive, humans used to be and can still be the most beneficial element in an ecosystem

VA: thesis antithesis, two pathways, human beings will recede from nature, seeing it happen already, last vestiges that were connection to nature, in established paradigm, agriculture, vast tracts of ag land, factory farmed or not, people working that land, are connected to nature, connected in a system that whereby their actions enable, millions, few individuals enable millions to not have any connection to nature, lack of connection to source of food, lack of conneciton to source of food is crux of whole thing, food and water, people don’t have access to that is the crux of everything

symbol of ultimate disconnection of source of food to your food, exact thing that were closed first, restaurant, sit down high end restaurant, vast menu, things from global supply chain, combined into one dish, shut down first, now this is the receding the great receding, recession not in economic terms, receding further away from nature, back into itself

as it recedes its gonna give up space, and we need to be filling that space

TP: timing of ai and robotics, we though big ag, chem ag bad enough, now people aren’t even gonna be in the fields to make the ethical decision of whether they’re gonna poison it

virus scortched earth, keeps mutating, recombining, different flue seaons, who’s gonna roll out the smart farm bots, almost there, dystopian, yin/yang, we have the tool kits to return to garden of eden, also have perfect storm to technologically tyranize, I don’t know if its a fair fight, the only thing that levels it is the crypto savage, permaculture farmer can’t win in a fist fight with robots and drones and surveilence capitalism, but crypto, ninjitsu of cryptography

vin armani show, invest in the revolution and get rich doing it, that’s what I finally stopped being a no-coiner

VA: bitcoin mind blowing, new book, needed for this happening now to get next piece in there, what is at the core of bitcoin outside of price, what is this powerful core idea, how does it allow this peer to peer transfer of value, goes into the food thing, growing your own food from a seed or cutting or seedling, something I’ve done since I was a kid, grew up in house that always had a garden planted many fruit trees when I was a kid, family home of mine, awesome to watch my own children pick and eat apples and oranges and pears from trees that I had planted when I was 12 or 13, eaten off of for years

purist notion of understanding lockian notion of property and value, idea that a natural resource combined with labor creates a good, property can be exchanged, growing own food, you always have extra, people don’t realize the abundance of well tended garden, or of a fruit tree that’s a mature fruit tree, apple tree probably 25 years old, rediculous, having existed, there is more wild life now, don’t ever remember squirrles in that neighborhood, recent years, tons of opposoms, lizards, because of damn fruit trees, something for them to eat, I never saw a squrril, growing up in this particular neighborhood, thank god the squirrles were there cause we couldnt’ eat all the apples, oranges, lemons, pears, avocados, given them away, constantly been a garden, constantly been fruit trees, value

bitcoin is leveraging that, aspect of cryptography, really the hashing functions, signature algo, proof, math for proof that something happened, incredible concept, something I can feel absolutely assured that a very very specific act happened in a very specific way, person saying they did is the person who did it, pretty phenomenal, build system around it to transfer value, any kind of value, assign value to things in the world, receding into a virtual world, proof is almost unnecessary, programmer can make anything pop on screen

probably half people test positive for antibodies, mortality rate incredibly low, living in a post proof world, people don’t demand proof, proof is no longer necessary, would of fake news, world of propaganda, 1984

bitcoin, so important, that proof, that ability to use this technique to prove something, anything, proof of work, labor, proof that labor happened, labor is what creates property

that’s the crux of value, that’s recardos labor theory of value, not marx, all value in marketplace is derived from labor

you can’t sell me an apple if you haven’t planted the tree, picked, bought it, exchanged it brought it, there was labor involved somehow

proof of work proves that labor took place, you can build an economy

not money printer goes brrrr, economic system based on a hustle, relatively smart gold hustler, the hustle is falling apart, bitcoin is a gift, proof of work is gift from universe

speculation was a blip, way to ahead of its time in that regard, but now, exchange for food that you grew, outside of this new web panopticon that’s coming, the value is immeasurable, we can build a whole new world with this

TP: invoke this permaculture mycellium, networks, peer to peer, network effects, discoveries, I like the phrase math isn’t invented, its discovered, its nature, Jimmy song said something like that

I want to throw out there, my final thoughts for those listening if you download the permaculture party pack, 72 hour official permaculture design course, bill mollison, geoff lawton, get torrent go through course, youd’ have same qualitification as any other certified designer, you’ll have done the most canonical training

holy grail, crown jewel of systems, chinampas, island water gardening, engineered, most productive landscape engineering design, constructed wetlands that grow crops in islands, into a lake original mexico city, grind pattern out into lake, canoe into gardens, instead of sidewalks and streets, subirrigating crops, drought proof, any climate, super dense polyculture, aquaculture, and dry farm plants, I’m working on now,

another thing, tromp, very few in the world, cant’ say exact history, way to create infinite free energy, harnessing energy created by falling water, water fall, can’t efficiently create cap on the break, air bubbles, energy events, difficult to put turbine on top of that, but if put water stream flow, drops underground, engineered cave, going down pipes, giant metal bell, to capture that vibrating energy, gas exchange where waters breaking, nature process, compression of air, gives infinite compressed air used to power vehicles, turbine to generate electricity, transapocalyptic bitcoin mining operation, restoring watersheds, greening deserts, beyond solar, harvesting wasting energy, less materials, more sustainable to have bitcoin mining reward to innovate green technology

bitcoin is basically digesting the crudeness and foolishness of this hustler scam that you’re talking about, metamorphize and spit out potentially the most elegant ecological oragami of energy, incentive that pushes us in that direction, most transapocalypitc, techno utopian, forward thinking crypto thesis, tromp, pdc, worth checking out

take us back to family farm in eden

VA: that’s a beautiful view, also believed the mechanism of proof of work, incentive is most efficient and sustainable form of energy possible, utilizing nature, free and natural resources given by nature in place, where proof of work is fated and destined to go, things to move forward on, bitcoin, multigeneration project, changes we’re talking about, happening quickly, but what we’re seeing now is the birth/death singularity, of actual cross over time, while that doesn’t happen in an instant, birth/dying process, death and dying process can be very extended for some people or it can be instant, birth is a probably a lot better, window of labor and birth, piece after, before the child is nursing and resting, still precarious time, we’re in the midst of that, right now we’re in labor pains, happening fast, level of intensity, happening to entire human family, to entire species, something we couldn’t have imagined, many of us knew clearly it was coming, this shift, opportunity is amazing

somewhere in our dna we knew that this was coming, same way mother knows child is coming, we’ve been pregnant with this change as a species, scary time, child coming can be still born, mother can also die, that’s not the case here per say, I don’t think this is a false start, communist revolution might have been false start, clearly was still born, 70 year period, it never really got its legs, fighting for life, but this is real, both mother and child are gonna live through this one, but always two children are born, right hand path left hand path, yin/yang, duality, multi generational project, don’t expect to see final outcome, incredibly interesting times, we have the tools on both sides, opportunity to make a choice, few generations to have the ability to make a choice

matrix, cypher, wants to get put back in matrix because he’s miserable in the real world

what you resonate with his how you make your choice, really make the choice in the heart, gonna take a level of bravery, a lot of sacrifice, relatively less sacrifice, nothing you have now that is going to be here 5 years from now, nothing, if ever a time to give it up, now is the time, it’s not continuing through this, birth is being made, new thing is here, make choice which side you want to stand on, hold on it’s gonna be a wild ride

TP: streamlining for flight into hyperspace, terrence line

grow deeper roots in on going conversation, welcome back anytime, sooner than later

how connect:

VA: @vinarmani on twitter, for now that’s good, pulling back a bit, more with vinarmani.com, showcasing platforms, code from go courses back, more of a sustainability tool kit things people can be using, twitter, at vin armani, best place

Ben Tantra Punk in the Garden in front of the Pond

Ecological Security, Treeage, Self Quarantine, and more Land Lessons TPP271

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In this episode I share more land lessons and updates focusing on a tree care, self care, overall resilence

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

Last night, dancing in the night, warm and dry, seizing the night, before pouring rain, but still coming down, went out and planted an array of different varieties of seeds, mostly annual herbs and veggies, to be an understory guild around fruit and nut tree plantings

its been a couple of months, phase in and out of blocks of time doing this rehab on this project, that has had exquisite design implementations, that have just been, when you dance and have romance with nature, things can get ahead of you pretty fast, takes people power once established to do maintenance, more or less light, head, cold, moisture, aspects can be set and forget, stuff that needs to be maintained

I’m coming in as reinforcements, do feng shui, rehab, text book permaculture design system, my triage/treeage, set foot on this property I bow to the ground first evening, celebrating the union, faceplant to the earth, made vows, spirits of the land, ancestors, I will do my best to take care of you if you take care of me, never want to set foot off this property again, not wanting to re enter the mix of the matrix, was barely becoming aware of that thing in china, yeah they’re probably gonna lock it down pretty hard, it was one my radar as a prepper, had been since early stages, now it’s exponentially increasing, I’m piping in the up to the minute facts,

prepper fantasy come to life, first days I was here it was quiet, too quiet, picking up from the colony reality tv show, ran a drill of what is exactly happening right now, both seasons of the show, everyone should watch that to see how to navigate the social politics of extreme austerity, they nailed it, a lot of the social dynamics, check it out

this feels like that situation where you’re gonna have to take inventory of what you can mcguevyer and a-team together, food, shelter, water, etc.

its a fucking miracle, all the stars aligning to put me where I’m at now

tragic irony, paradox, you could be doing everything, could still be infected, its a mind fuck, I feel blessed to at least have for myself the optimism of feeling like I have a survival retreat, if I have to go out and do missions into the matrix I have a place to go back to

I’ve done self quarantine already, have the means to extend that for a long time, financially and with preps stored, continue to cycle through

that sort of recap on this last couple of months, getting on to this land and saying to myself, you better maximize the ecological security, resiliency, and productivity of this land now, so you’re not struggling later in more austere times, so filling up every possible container with water

strategizing on rainwater catchment, looking at overgrown system and having to train the eye and the mind and the deeper settle aspects of intuition to feel into where on this design are the places that need the most love and attention and get the most yield, could be immediate, long term, that’s the triage

that’s the training from first aid in cert, community emergency response team training, anyone who understands triage in a mass casualty event, this site is a mass casualty event for trees that have been chewed bare at the base by adorable critters that I will not by any means ever poison, but will have to develop strategies of what’s gonna make it on its own, war metaphors, if you’re gonna survive here, you’ve got to determine systematically, what gets primary care immediately, literally tagging, this tree’s dead, pull it out, chop and drop, mulch in place, so it doesn’t confuse us as we’re going to find the trees that will make it and then sorting the efforts into what needs the most care now, what is doing okay and can wait a little bit longer, what is barely hanging, maybe a goner, lost cause beyond the point of no return, we’ll do a little bit to keep it alive but can’t over extend resources, sorting the efforts into what needs the most care now, and what is doing okay and can wait longer

may look fine today but need to be maintained to keep that level of vigor

that has been the name of the game out here, stacking sats, hodling crypto, dollar cost averaging, smart trading, holding, risking exposure, social distancing, sanitation, strength of immune system

lot of different rodents, trash heaps, places that need tlc, cautious about dust, stirring up a lot of dried rodent feces and urine, dust masks for that, praying hard, really really meditating on the throat and lungs, not gonna go into my herbal remedy approach

don’t want to make any mistakes in any medical advice or natural medicine remedy advice

so that’s the zone that I have been in, meditating on my health, if you don’t want to end up in the hospital, better not be stupid, careless, move to fast, do something mindless to end up in a hospital where they feed you dead toxic food which lowers your immune system, trapped air flow, you’ll be exposed to virsuses, every pathogen on earth cohabitating there, you don’t want to take the space from someone who needs it, slow the fuck down, mindful slow down, don’t get snagged on rusty chicken wire, don’t stomp on rusty nails move slowly, deliberately

had a few nicks, have strategies for maintaining the surface of my skin, phased there immune responses to various stimuli, various symptoms, I feel like a million dollars right now

not medical advice, timely spiritual practice revelations, maybe things happening for a reason, maybe things being synchronistic, some exciting news

its been a wet dream come true to get the fuck back here from mini mission to babylon, before the rains to get dense polyculture seed mix planting into these large donuts of semi composted wood chip mulch around 20 or 30 beautiful trees, need to be cared for, protected, there needs to be a design consideration for anchoring the human activity to regular maintenance of these young developing trees so they don’t get neglected

treeage pulled out a lot of dead twigs, like profusion test, check of consciousness, methodology of steps to determine the vital signs, without equipment, say you’re in a battle field or disaster situation, doing triage, system of tagging and sorting people who are ambulant, can get up and move, put in an area,people who are alive but can’t move, people in critical state of blood loss or other things, can’t speak but conscious, a whole process, not an expert, doing that with trees, which are dead which are alive, you can slowly apply pressure to tips that look super dry, without ripping off more than necessary, take a dry tip, does it flex, bend, snap off, more resistance there, tiny little scratch test, be careful, mindful, scratch a tiny bit, moist green life, interesting practice of shit, if there is any life left, it may be all the way down in the roots, and not know

don’t yank it out, kick it over, or stomp on it, it will have a chance

is there growth below the graft, we go through that process, determine which as salvageable, probably about 20 cubic yards of wood chip mulch, remnants of a bigger load, composted nicely, it was a good mix, cycling through

full disclosure, went to psytribe valentine’s day party knew at that time it would be basically risking death, if I go to that social event, breaking what I had already been feeling was a need to maintain the social distance

everybody elses winter funk, I felt like a million dollars, but everyone drinking sweetened cocktails, smoking cigarettes, lots of love, like clockwork and orgy of viral spread, as far as I can imagine, at that time no indication of a corona virus case in california, no one in state of panic or alarm, in my heart of hearts with or without corona, you better be self inquisitive, is this something that is going to possibly, its the cost benefit, I gotta see my tribe, I gotta see my people

I thought to myself I could pass on this party, but no I need it, I want it, I will be sad if I don’t go,

so I went I danced all night, best party, best vibes, so much to celebrate, for me, global pandemic looming, we were blissfully ignorant for the most part at that point

or course, like clock work, little scratch in the throat be morning, and also when I slept, I felt like there was a bit of a draft I didn’t account for, oh shit, good thing I’m gonna bug out to this land and be totally isolated, and have practically zero contact with anybody for almost 2 weeks, and that was the drill, that was the self quarantine drill and I went through a bizarre fever, and very very mild upper respiratory, pseudo,, proto coughs that didn’t really take hold

as soon as I got tiny tickle in throat, I said battle mode, self quarantine, no more solid food, not gonna say the herb I used but basically did what you would consider like a ayahuasca dieta, I wanted to connect with some of the herbs of this land and say already, take me I’m yours, if I’m goin out, I’m going out in a beautiful nature place, romance with this new to me herb, highly potent and medicinal and I’m not trying to start an mlm taking about it, also placebo effect, okay, I love myself, I do my absolute best to nurture and support and boost my immune system, this is a test, no fear, no worries, just soldier on, about 36 hour period where I was pretty incapacitated with fever, boiled from the inside out, lymph nodes didn’t swell, wasn’t miserable, almost had no mucus, maybe one night I put some very gentle soft, natural soaping solution onto a bit of paper towel, and inserted to stop one night of a bit of a faucet out of one nostril, then it was fine, little bits of phelm over the course of a couple of weeks, I never get sick, hardly ever have fever, keto paleo, no added sugar, no processed foods

a lot of confidence in my immune system, knowing I’m not constantly inflamed, eliminated grains, legumes, dairy, sugar

we’re talking, fruits, nuts, seeds, berries, mostly fish, some poultry, lots of herbs, not gonna get into specific choices of things

I hunkered down, self quarantine, bona fide drill, real threat, I swabbed that whole party, water filter, washed hands but so much hugging and talking, everybody spraying particles

fever was its own psychedelic experience but I would say over all on scale of 1-10, I was surprised by how mild most of the symptoms were, how limited in duration, whatever it was, there’s no reason for me to believe I had exposed to corona virus, it was more lik ea drill, what was off though is that I wouldn’t normally get sick, I wouldn’t normally be getting sick, I would expect ot be fine, novel, no precedent in the immune system, you don’t get any freebees from immune system, you’re fighting a new…

I don’t have mastery of virology, been studying it, I out on the other side of that, no residue phelgm, I feel this more today like a billlion dollars, not selling any herbal secret, I had a profound experience last night out there, seizing the night, humbled by cold and rain, dry with multiple layers of tactical casual gardening clothes and rain gear

and also knowing you don’t want to be out here to long but you gotta stay warm, you gotta dance to live, dance to stay warm, get seeds in ground before you miss the rains, living on the edge, some people are raiding walmart, I’m out there dancing to stay warm and dry and get seeds in the ground, healthy panic mode

win/win, force multiplier, to say to these trees, you take care of me I take care of you, I love you, this is a beautiful romance, I will nurture you, nourish you, and cherish you and be shaded by you and fed by you and you will be the habitat,

as zanzibar said in a recent podcast, polywombic, helping to create habitat fro wildlife, the frogs and toads, almost to tears, so heart melting, I’m just bumping into them, got my light on, actually squared off with one, I got out of its way, the power of this being in front of me, wow, amazing

a beautiful realm, thrilled to be here, I hope I survive everything, a stay strong, do the ecological magic to work this land, make it abundant, build on the strategy of these trees, we’re gonna guild plant around these trees, establish for myself a daily ish route that are dispersed around

keep fertigated, keep moist, rather than orchard over there that does its thing, irrigated, integrating human pathway daily commute, walking through it, gotta go out to where the trees are, kitchen garden growies, overlaying zones 1 thourgh 3, comingling them

small enough to all be convenient to access not so dispersed that its a big chore, you should be walking, hiking, creating a bunch of mini zone one plantings that will be stitched together through earth works, ponding, fertigation, candy land game board

to me that’s been the most important objective, get to that point, so many critters, no mercy, don’t just get ot have a little raised bed box, your veggie garden nope, it will be pulled from underground, checked from above ground, slithered on, grubbed on, little stems

doesn’t work in this level of wilderness, going to have to plant a huge diverse array of sacrificial planting,s

okay with attracting competitors, be happy they are coming around doing their bits, if you go from seeds, the key leverage point of that is that a lot are dirt cheap you don’t need to be that extravagant

I was thrilled to get to that point to have survived that period of self quarantine, to bond with the herbs o the land and to at the moment of the rains beginning have had the hard and soft scaping rehab triage, new where to go int eh dark, with a headlamp those mulch donuts were my tags on the tree age, visual ques, very systematically, need to draw them out on a pirate treasure map for now its in subconscious

don’t want to forget the ones off the path, have a route that trains me to get to all of them incentivize that habit, bend the rules of permaculture zonation, stretch, this tree needs treatment, or pruning, care, change contours so basin is gonna hold water,

all the care you gotta have a reason to care, go out there, planting things around it, things I’m gonna harvest quickly that’s the name of the game,

what was put into action last night

many reasons in spite of whats happening in the world, to be ecstatic and celebrate in the bitter sweet glory of having earned the privilege and luxury to have at least 75 to 85 percent buffering ot be able to follow the best practices, not have to compromise to much

the worse things get, I can scale into and scale out of the official protocols and restrictions and just try to keep myself on a tight leash to this property

the most tragic irony would be to have done all this work, my lifes work to be

secure ecologically and have this opportunity and then be swept up in net, or do something stupid end up the hospital and then be exposed

whatever I’ve done to build my immune system to this point, it’s all nullified by being hospitalized

this is what’s real, this is as fucking real as it gets part of my strategy to adapt to his moment is to really do the triage on making sure the people I love in the world really know it, making the amends, we don’t know who could be next

instead of worry, do the lower chakra things, focus on security, get that squared away and then really carefully feel into who needs to be reminded of your deep and true love for them

a lot of them are coming to me in my dreams, bubbling up to surface of inbox on their own

this is advice, make every day like valentines day from now until the vaccine an effective vaccine and beyond

no matter what your relationship is to a financial crisis, an epidemic, a pandemic, treat every day like valentines day, say namaste, every day and mean it

 

Urban Permaculture and Post-Pandemic Food Security TPP270

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In this episode I’m joined by a friend where I get on my soap box to answer some of her questions about urban permaculture and post-pandemic food security

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

S: Mom in east la, Paranoid, restless, gardening, getting into tarot, finally posting videos

TP: for a few months been in zombie apocalypse survival retreat bug out location farm stead site

trying to drum up online business, possibly sell of crypto at a loss, I got to a point where I decided I’ll take some calculated risks, maintain best practices for hygiene, physical distances, evolving protocols and procedures minding restrictions, come back to employment that I had, working for permaculture landscaping companies, with certified permaculture designer founders, one of them amazing former hollywood set designer, high end west side clients, beverly hills, santa monica, pacific palisades,

worked a lot in malibu, fancy parts of orange county

we’ve all be so drunk on prosperity, people do landscape yard make over, still kind of ornamental, even if more drought tolerant, still feel like you’d have to be a hippie to grow your own food, or veggie bed is quaint and cute, but I’m not gonna grow an edible jungle

Larry Santoyo, god father of LA permaculture, deep root, going back to the founders, trained a lot of people, paraphrase all these white hippie new age purple breathing wannabes want intergenerational households and back yard food forests, he’s like oh yeah, cross the la river on the east side and that’s the norm

I’m back in la. Swinging pick axes, because people want to grow food

tear up that front lawn, make some room in the parkways

essential services in agricultural sector, contracting ecological design, rain water harvesting, storm water diversion

still see mow and blow landscapers out there, poisoning insects, they’re out there doing their thing

we’re doing some more vital more protected, involving food production and security

interesting because one of last things I said to main employers after I ran to the hills, I love what we do, but I’m taking some time off while this is happening to build up my personal food security in the mountains, honestly I wouldn’t want to risk my life to just be flipping lawns in inedible ornamental landscapes, that’s the hill I want to die on, polishing brass on titantic, but if we’re gonna help people grow food, medicines, harvest rainwater, solar, composting, all the stuff we love to do for ourselves,

hope this supply chain shock, does what happened in cuba, ussr fell, had to be self sufficient over night, organic gardens every where, riding bikes, post peak oil, oil was cut off, crystal ball of the future

what has just happened with corona virus is an acceleration of what’s been predicted about climate change doom sayers

transapocalyptic business plan, help people grow food as licensed contractors

untouchable by gestapo, they gotta eat too, don’t break the hand the feeds you with that baton officer friendly

S: working in the garden composting in, rain catchers, filtering, lot of outdoor projects weren’t even able to get to fully because we were all working full time, perfect moment to spend more time and learn about that, gonna take permaculture certification, know practices more, getting hands dirty, even have fruit trees, is already super prepped to be a little edible jungle

wondering about a lot,

TP:

large percentage of content addressing this reality, feel like this is the time while people are paying attention and have the free time, the real stimulus package should be stimulating your soil, by stimulating it with compost tea, go back to work part time cuz you’re growing half your food

people geeky about permaculture already been doing this stuff for however long, wishing and hoping it would be the easy way not the hard way that their neighbors get on board, this is the hard way but not as bad as being at war,

ancestors were asked to fight the nazis, we’re just being asked to do nothing and stay at home

other people take the risk to feed you, could be a lot worse

S: psychologically damaging regardless, abrupt coercive, that’s how it feels, people really strong mentally, people who are gonna be okay, just wonder about people affected psychologically, gatherings, basic human things we are used to, not measurable, hasn’t been done before

the indefinite part of that, of all of this is what’s most draining

difficulty of it, following rules, not hard to do

TP: feel you on that, heart goes out to younger people, couldn’t imagine when my social circle was everything, now I’m more of a loner, it happens with age

when I was younger it was all about the group mind, clique, high school, punk scene, activist scenes, always hanging out

for me now, that’s not a priority, just want to do me, to be more secure

S: people who are single, recently heart broken, people who are teenagers, already don’t have freedom, now they have to be in abuse household, not in power, not in control of anything, I just wonder, if feel the energy of all that

TP: neighbors see you gardening?

S: people wearing masks, wondering if I should wear mask in my own yard

TP: yeah lead by example, studies are showing larger ranges than 6 feet to spread virus, Dr. Eric Ding take on headlines, on studies coming out, are the best, lot of good press and feedback, constantly myth busting things people use to minimize, rationalize cutting corners, whistling past the graveyard, so new, not one study could really be relied on the gospel truth, it could be disprove, everything is so new, highest level of precautionary principle, most extreme data 6 feet is not adequate, range of days living on surfaces, meters spread from the breath, like the idea of people getting crafty with making designer masks, making lemonade out of lemons

a lot less sickness will be passed around in general if this becomes the new normal, people won’t be so pressured to put on make up, different game of hooking up, gotta get to know someone cuz you can’t see their face

S: thinking about, a few plots of land, totally empty, guerrilla gardening, want to empower people but have to stay away from each other, don’t want to be the only garden on the block, for other people that live in la totally fine to garden on the parkway along the side walk, doesn’t belong to the property owner, belongs to the city

TP: Ron Finley guerrilla gardening civil disobedience, fought the city, made it possible for everyone to grow food in the parkway

S: heard about that, started one in 2017, in an apartment I used to live at, been gardening for a while, you gotta talk to people and let them know otherwise you’ll be the only one gardening, can’t eat everything, it’s good to share, its great, a lot of people don’t know that

home depots closing in some areas, chaining off the seeds, not allowing people to buy seeds, I don’t know, saw some pictures, seeds were off limits

TP: weird stuff in ag industry, I been posting on craigslist for bulk discount produce, millions being dumped, most tragic thing, if I had the infrastructure I’d be collecting it, for composting, and for replanting, garlic, chives, green onions, potatoes, carrots, pineapple, list goes on

grocery store lots can be replanted from the produce section, gives a head start, beets, sweet potatoes, water cress, herbs that are plantable, in soil, intact, a whole garden project out of what’s already still alive at the grocery store, wasting so much, all those people backed up at the food bank, this is farmageddon 2.0, all the people who are trained to know what a transition to a local food security economy we study the history and strategies, just tapping our feet, when do people say we need to stop relying on the globalized just in time supply chain, we need to do edible landscaping

everything in la county civil engineer landscapers, some plants have a purpose, but for the most part, it’s pretty much inappropriate, not native, inedible ornamentals, for shiggles for rich people to look at, public policy nightmare, public edible ecological food forests, hand full of cities in the us, broken free of phobia of public edible landscapes, partnerships, stake holders, designers, you can imagine, of all the community gardens that are out there, plagued by junkies that come and shoot up, racoons, rats, critters, you don’t just get to have this picturesque tidy urban farm that doesn’t attract a lot of other issues, to be rewilding the urban landscape so you have a resilient ecosystem you can forage in, you have to give up some creature comforts, fighting all the animals

dream big, this is the time me and my peeps are gonna try to nudge that paradigm with all the strength we can muster if we can survive ourselves this is a time to show people what they’re missing

S: suggestions for starting gardens? What about where are the seeds

TP: sunset nursery, favorite nursery

there’s a lot of stuff going on in micro and macro economic landscape, try to be a few steps ahead, not as much as the insider trading congress people, didn’t get to in that trade, bet against america and win hard, bankrupting all the poor people

in general being a few steps a head, chaos all these factors, the dollar is being inflated infinite printing money unprecedented levels dilutes, weakens overprinted mighty dollar, value becomes less, economy has to absorb falsehood of unbacked fantasy currency, not gonna be over night that it’s value reduced

bailouts in 2008, other times in history increased supply, history of fiat currencies around the globe in a war, a government has only two options, raise taxes or print more money, printing money is like raising taxes, stealing value from people

bitcoin based on a hard cap, limited fixed supply digital gold, can’t be inflated

unlike dollars

people overspend, go into debt, addicted to spending

that could be a whole series on how all that works, bring people on how can articulate pivotal points better than me

so many things are shut down, businesses activities shut down, less demand

supply and demand in decline because of covid-19, and value of dollar is decreasing

doesn’t just get rebooted by pressing the its okay to go back to work button

geographically isolated economic collapse, not usually whole world

in u.s. buffered by oceans in world war 2

empire the was able to restructure the world, pimp the bombed countries, 3rd and 4th worlds, now everybody’s taking a big hit

on one had, bargain deals of the millennium, people desperate, start dumping assets on market, prices will be driven down, things will be up for grabs

the counterbalance to that, simultaneously scarce items that are in demand will get price gouged, and scalped

raw capitalism

some goods and services are gonna be cheaper than they’ve ever been, then stuff that will be so scarce, people will pay anything for it

for me, be savvy, build a future by having capital in reserve, apply money to long term regenerative ecological assets, food security infrastructure, for local gardening

buy stuff when people are trying to sell

sucks to be pilfering, scavenging salvaging from people in distress, but hey if they’re happy to have whatever they can get for it, you’ll make them happy

that’s why I wanted to go back to work because if everything I want is gonna go on sale, I better have more money to get it

lot of people doing whatever they gotta do, don’t just spend money on whatever, invest as much as possible into regenerative infrastructure, seed stock, live stock

S: think this is gonna effect the price of houses and land

TP: real estate market gonna take a major hit, people can’t even see properties, virtual open houses, real estate industry still moving along but it’s tore up, people can’t move around

the further you get from hipster zones, the cheaper land gets, because of age of farmers in america now, buying opportunities like never before, last couple generations of farm families haven’t been maintaining the farms, gone to cities, to tech jobs, to college, average age of farmer if pretty old,

you could lease land and be a tenant farmer, not responsible for huge hidden cost burdens of owning property

helping them, retrofit to be organic, permaculture, they may have tractors, crops, maybe even a business, if we can take the leap of faith out of overpriced hipster urban zones, go back to land, will have way better options than during the dust bowl, ag industry devastated by ecological disaster, as bad as climate change is we can go back to the land, still have hipster culture online, don’t have to be a shit kicker at local saw dust joint

new movement of back to the landers, forced out of over priced hipster zones, help out aging farmers, bring new energy, could have a whole reboot of american ag sector, organic sustainable, we’ll be all the better for it, healthier happier, next time mega super bug comes around

public health, they didn’t come out and ban sugary products, obesity, diabetes cofactor in deaths from covid

be careful, don’t work to hard, don’t want to end up anywhere near the hospitals, stay healthy avoid the hospital for their sake and yours but get shit done and plant some shit

 

 

 

Charles Hoskinson with Bird on Shoulder

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Charles Hoskinson TPP268

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In this episode I share words of praise for my favorite hero in the crypto/blockchain space, Cardano founder Charles Hoskinson

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

Coming from a place of bliss

Immune systems thrive on bliss

with all due respect to suffering, sick and dying, which we could all be one of us

podcast could be titled my 2020 crypto investment thesis, heart of it is my crypto crush, bromance with charles hoskinson, who I have been a fan of now since the end of 2017 where I first got interested, made first purchase of ADA, token or coin that operates on the cardano network, a multi stage, multi phase very complex cryptocurrency platform

story for me of what I would call crypto man crush, I don’t have any personal connection to, don’t have any rapport, just putting out these words because this has been my hope, most optimism I have in heart and mind comes from his work, not just him as a thought leader, innovator, genius, mathematician, cryptocurrency serial entreprenuer

he is a node in his own network, simply another node, by design

I’m spending some time here not to “shill” a crypto token” this is not investment advice, it is an opportunity for me to express from the depths of my soul what I find to be the most optimistic, not just investment opportunity this is for the soul and spirit of liberation of humanity, the spirit of liberation from slavery exploitation abuse tyranny, the core beliefs, principles, values of any freedom loving,

the most universal aspiration is to be free form tyranny, so the study of human freedom is an infinite study, for me the ultimate current embodiment if I chose one person who is a founder of an ensemble cast of geniuses, with the spirit and ethics of liberation at their hearts

what has captured my heart and imagination it goes back, the story , to put it in sequence

why have I arrived at the pinnacle of my techno optimism resting on the shoulders of CH and company

why have I arrived, how

sequence of events goes back to my religions scholarship of bitcoin once I began to realize gains, rabbit hole, andreas antonopolis, the bitcoin podcast, omar bam, cryptos news

shy about exchanges, had to go through multiple currency swaps to get to an alt coin you may want exposure to, the story begins with my other crypto crush bromance, crypto bobby, he and omar bam, he’s the one who’s explainer videos got me to feel comfortable and confident, in understanding how to do professional trading on an exchange, not just buy, actually getting some understanding of how to place different kinds of orders, move from one currency to another, do the math, its really intimidating, scary, can lose nerve, lose mind, lose money

I was very hesitant, but crypto bobby was the sheperd, dangerous places, sharks and whales will eat your lunch, so much respect to him

his best investment of 2017 of all the icos, was his investment in this thing called cardano, I was at the time, I’m just gonna buy whatever crypto bobby has in his portfolio, because he knows more than me

vegas/lottery money, threw I tiny bit at what he was recommending, most of hit has been under water, maybe I glanced at the white papers, but the thing that got my attention was, easy sell, CH co-founder of ethereum, not just a script kitty sitting in a basement, copying a white paper, not vapor ware, not just the ico bubble

of the shit coins that will never come back to life, cardano, not just the project, the personality, the captivating charisma, not like a false charisma, like a ted talk charisma, watching the CH ted talk, between that and what’s called the white board videos

breaks down 1st, 2nd, generation blockchains, how they’ve reached multiple deal breaking scalability, governability, interoperability

in the trenches, very experienced, developing a platform play, as they say in crypto trading world, this is a blockchain that smart contracts and applications using the backbone will be able to build on top of

bitcoin basically just transferring value back and forth, you could be on top of that, but lacks functionality to run more complex computations, stories of transactions can’t be processed

ethereum, infinite complex programmability, on the base layer

at the peak of the market in 2017, thanks to getting served up by crypto bobby watching the ted talk, the white board videos, in a position to take some of my bitcoin wealth, which was not a lot, I wasn’t mining in 2010, I’ve barely been above water, shaken out a few times, weathered the storm, it’s been about what you have loyalty and allegiance to, difference between investing and trading

white board videos give the lay person, I’m not a math, not cryptographer, not a computer scientist, just a power user, copy and paste code, web admin, designer, marketer, more about the graphical user interface, will hire a programmer if I have to go deeper than that, enough understanding for the white board video, but some was going over my head,

now a few years later, studying to catch up on this movement, watched again recently, its so deeply profound, years later I can actually in real time, everything he’s staying clicks for me, I could be enamored with several other competing projects, I put skin in the game because I liked him, this project was really intelligently evolving, learning from triumphs and failures of bit coin and ethereum

more peer reviewed, more academic, not move fast and break things, actual governments, actual economies, critical infrastructure can be built on

he’ll be an exalted position, diplomacy, academic rigor

that’s what sold me, I didn’t continue to buy all the way down, put skin in the game, everything underwater, project in stages of development, other projects crashed and burned and sped ahead, classic story of the tortoise and the hare

I don’t feel a personal connection through the socialbility of the internet personalities of any of the other founders of competing projects, that’s why I can say, I can list off not the selling points of buying cardano or ada to put in investment portfoilio, if I will give any advice, if you want to feel optimistic, about the future of this planet and promise of crypto anarchy, wise, not juvenile, intelligent mature anarchism

talk to your financial advisor about if, when, why, how, what, where cardano fits in your portfolio

I see opportunity to learn from a master of the political economy of the planet earth, a personable master, synthesis of wayne and garth in one person

down to earth, approachable, entertaining, fun, human

unsocialable tech geniuses who don’t make an effort, they just don’t have the calling, the personal, not connecting with people

not a politician or technocrat, it’s just a master

if you want to learn to be a ninja or samurai, there is a sacred devotional traditional classical meritocratic relationship to have with a master

if you’re student and don’t know where to start to understand cryptography, financial technology, the stock market, the systems of government around the world, the international banking system, all the digital fabric that stitches all this together, where am I gonna go to learn all that stuff

all of my crypto mentors have made the difference of me being a beggar or me having options

respect, admiration, meritocracy of those who’ve been further down a path

why do I sing these praises so much, I’ve watched the youtube videos, have subscribed and been a fly on the wall during his AMA

incentivized test net, more reasons to love

I wake up every day feeling optimistic being in a world where the principles represented by CH are being pushed forward against all forces of evil, fraud, manipulation, so long as he remains in good standing with this ethics, I’m going to say that, without having met in person, here’s why I’m so thrilled about his work

as much as any of my tantra mentors, he’s my financial guru mentor

he’s a farmer and gardener, that’s going to excite me very much knowing that he has that balance and that connection to the earth, also mushroom worship, into medicinal plants, giggles about psychdelics, advocate of medicinal psilocybin, fan of Paul Stamets, checking of serious boxes for me, pro shamanic liberation, most important of all things, being connected to the earth through farming

if there was on person on earth where someone should gift him a permaculture design course

there have got to be more permaculture educated crypto millionaries in the world, there’s not enough, the fact that he has a farm, grows vegetables, retrofitting his zones, I just can’t imagine, he hasn’t mentioned it once so far yet

I could go on forever about applications of blockchains in permaculture designs, that’s what makes me very optimistic, thanks to these guys, not to many other geeks and crypto millionaries have their hands in the soil, low hanging fruit to turn on to permaculture design if they aren’t already into it, that’s very exciting to me

you could be steeped in sustainability, green tech, radical politics and maybe only barely bump into permaculture without having gone down that rabbit whole, everyone who’s all about bitcoin, satoshi rabbit whole, permaculture is more profound and empowering, not to compare, the enthusiasm that permaculturist have its very similar

words of vin armani, invest in the revolution and get rich doing it

its not about speculation, whales manipulating markets, still in 90percent speculation, love CH because the price is the currency is not the metric to be watching, it’s the amount of usage of the platform by developers, by apps

not going into why I choose

if you ask me what crypto to I have the most allegiance to, it’s not bitcoin, its not ethereum, it’s cardano because of the love I have for CH, he’d have to have a severe fall from grace for that to change

who are you going to be a student of who is a master of the world we live in and the future that’s about to unfold

you’re gonna want to have options with digital privacy, financial privacy, security, intelligence, all these things are being accessorized within cardano, intelligence behind it, rigorous academic approach, battle hardened, test with dick waving ego maniacal rich douche bag hate, he’s been hated on because he’s a maverick, I respect that, I salute him,

I hope you can catch up on why it is important to study this man, of all the people you were forced to study in k-12 you studied a lot of men, I don’t respect or like or appreciate many of them

one thing I was trained to do was study men, and this man is worth, whatever semesters of school you had to study somebody in history, whatever it was, take that approach, this modern genius renaissance man, take that approach to it to understanding his perspective and analysis, very accessible, does amas if you want to ask him something jump on his ama, subscribe to his youtube channel

I didn’t get in early enough or put in enough to be rich from bitcoin, but so infinitely wealthy in terms of hope and invigoration

the revolution that never happened when iw as a teenager, the anarchist revolution that never happened, the streets of the WTO, glamorizing machismo form of anarchism, juvenile

cypherpunks were writing the code to elegantly subvert the entire system

I was fighting at the lowest point of leverage, fighting cops in the street because they will break your skull, break bones, deport you, put you in prison, I barely got out, times where I barelyi got out with my bones intact, my share of arrests, evasions, escaped

I’m not putting down protest, all of the screaming, chanting, protest signs, I should have spent at least half the energy to study the subversive potential of hacking, and crypto anarchism, and the cypher punks, I didn’t I’m late, I’m not one of the rich people, I’m wealthy now having studied it having it transform my life

love that I feel for satoshi nakamoto, I think it’s the heart and soul of Dave Klieman and tretchery of Craig Wright

the people who want to believe in benevolent satoshi, I’d like to know more about dave kleiman, what made him tick, do some investigative journalism around that, its sorely lacking

I have not been satisfied by the crypto journalism coverage of the works of dave kleiman

how is there not any breadcrumb trail of his code, of his previous work being studied, total bermuda triangle over this guy

back to love and wealth

so much passion and optimism and love and freedom and empowerment, more empowerment than I ever go from any other drudgery of anarchism that was all utopian pipe dream bullshit, drama, demoralizing net lose of youth, vitality, no return on investment

love for satoshi, I hope the heart and soul is the benevolence

maybe I’m projecting that love onto somebody, the love I would be, as a fan, if people want to love tony robbins, I guess I love him, he’s transformed my life, enjoying podcast, and lectures for years

for me CH is like the love I have for tony robbins, and absorbs the love I have for satoshi, he of all people is carrying on satoshi’s vision, not just satoshi, the vision is the cypherpunks, egalitarianism through math, beyond any of the countless people

this goes back a very very long time, liberation through math, that is a beautiful study

india, the math and science of islam, so much beauty to behold in the history of the best of how math has been used

john zerzan would not be a huge fan of this meditation but when used wisely for the benefit of liberation

new profound respect for rules without rulers, I love andreas too so so much

the projected love I have for satoshi, I love andreas, that love of those who are your mentors, gurus, masters, teaching you helping you navigate the best of the spirit of cryptography, math and cryptoanarchism

who has the most integrity, who’s the most mature, who perseveres hold virtue against all criticism and all odds, and be so personable as to earn the respect of the elites of the world, from financial to governments to most destitute

all stand to gain from the leveling of the playing field

studied him from afar, choose what carter thomas said, brought me a ton of appreciation for, anybody could have told me you could invest in tech stocks, I was an eco anarchist, anarcho primitivist, peak of idealism, in teens and 20s that would be like selling my soul, selling out to have anything to do with the financial system

there’s a million things I’m hypocritical about in my purchases, what I let slide in my supply chain ethics, but the idea of I could just invest in everything that gets people rich in the world the shit that rapes the planet and is build by slaves

beholden to cardano, being able to have whatever money you don’t put into vices and give to the man, whatever you can pay yourself with, give yourself a salary, you give money to grocery store, tax man, how about salary to yourself, percentage of salary

trying to catch up on the foolishness of not having money, investible wealth, there wasn’t an option

I’m never gonna touch owning any stocks because it’s all evil, that narrative, partially true, more nuanced, you could invest in ethical corporations

money phobic conditioning doesn’t serve you, didn’t serve me

what matters now it’s possible to dare I say have a 100% ethical vehicle to deploy capital, potential for there to be a return on investment, for me I’m interested in more than a financial gain, I’m interested in participating

one of my desktop background images, ch and friends planting a tree at second anniversary party of cardano, how much closer to my heart can you get

the opus of a man

to have warm feelings of adoration and respect someone who is a master and teacher

I want to say, if you’re thinking about killing yourself right now, binge watch andreas and ch, and you’ll never think of killing yourself again, you’ll be so thrilled to be a live in this moment of opportunity

this revolution, its been the most healing thing for my heart, my heart has bled, it’s been a bleeding heart for a long time, bleeding since I was raped as child, bleeding so long for a revolution that didn’t betray me exhaust me or deplete me

I am getting well and wealthy and healed by a revolution of crypto anarchist math geniuses

I would befriend the geeks, learn from them, kept them close, respected their talents, watched their wizardry

not going to be shaken out, I will have strong hands

enthusiasm for life, happens when you understand crypto

ch was significant factor in that extremely important chapter in the history of crypto anarchy, financial technology

I love ethereum but I love cardano more

a blossoming, an evolution of that

it includes and transcends, ken wilbur,

ch represents inclusion of and transcendence of cypherpunk legacy, geeks behind the internet, bitcoin, ethereum, hopefully this ever evolving and intelligently designed, big tent, compliance, scalability, governance, high transaction throughput, security, privacy, identity

reality of whole planet of different jurisdictions

masterminding, not a lone as he has done, financing research, research based approach, incorporating cryptographers of the world, mature, responsible fashion to where I don’t just put my money into this project, I put my heart and soul as much as I can say I was transformed by tony robbins, love him, am a fan, recommend him

if I get in certain funk, bam, tony robbins hour of power, it’s a resource that’s always there, not saying put your life savings, go in debt, take out a loan, sell your house, try to chase this penny stock, not what I’m saying

admiration, respect, looking up to, being role modeled by

not juvenile in a naive way, but in the fuck yeah I want to emulate your success, the purist adoration, it doesn’t mean they’re perfect or a god, you see them perform, they’re a master of something I respect and want to achieve in

the money is shiggles on top of the thrill of being a fan of the heros of the space

if you’re an adult you can bet some of your wealth accordingly

seeing people you believe are bad asses and what to emulate what they’re doing

he doesn’t have to be perfect, just willing to admit faults, be open to criticism, transparent

anchoring into heart space saying prayers and well wishes, and support, spiritual warrior crystal grid pranic healing, purple breathing send a lot of love to this man, understand him, I beg you

what he has published in his works, what he’s trying to do for you and the world

project love and healing , positive energy around him, as he ascends, as a master

his path of jedi ship if you will, he’s being forged in a fire of toxic astral sabotage and counterintelligence, nasty demonic bullshit

if you’re a tantric you have your sex magic rituals, put this man on your list of people to pray for, bless him with the orgasmic energy of eternal goddess bliss through kundalini awakenings

absolute honor, dignity, reverence and respect

we have this feeble frail imperfect tissue flesh animal human form but when we claw and dance our way to our highest self, climbing kundalini shakti energy, higher selves, godhood, goddesshood of ourselves and our beloved

invite the avatar of this man into the astral realms and armor him with all of the divine love that you can

Laura Shin Ted Talk

A Public Service Announcement on Coronavirus Preparedness by Laura Shin TPP259

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In this episode I syndicate by permission a segment on Coronavirus preparedness from Laura Shin’s recent episode of the Unconfirmed Podcast:

https://unchainedpodcast.com/coronavirus-how-it-will-impact-bitcoin-and-the-halving/

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

Climate change greatest slow moving danger

threat is so large, use platform to help out and bend the trajectory of the virus in the us, given our bad start in the fight against it

credentials, masters in science journalism

hopefully these tips will be helpful

us focused

first thing, no need to panic, worst thing you can do in a situation like this

take care of your self first

do one relaxing thing a day, exercise, meditation, a nap or bath, whatever will help keep in level headed state

calmly rationally seek out knowledge from reliable sources

armed with knowledge, make smart decisions, help others

take care of own body and health, boost immune system, reduce burden on health care system, clearer head to make better decisions, keeps you available to help others

docs nurses, and health care practitioners going to have hands full, if we keep our bodies in good shape, we can assist others

us is going to have to fight this battle pretty much blindly from a data stand point

so far behind on testing, I believe we no longer have time to catch up

window closed on strategy of containment

chems used in test, in short supply lack of test kits, lack of capacity, don’t think aggressive testing is viable anymore

don’t think we have the time to all the tests and contain this

already brewing in a big way

lag between infection and illness

not all hope is lost

another data point, most important metric, how burdened health care systems become

“true case fatality rate”, no true cfr, varies from city to city state to state country to country, determined by whether health care system gets overwhelmed

flatten the curve

we are the ones who determine the CFR, every choice we make pushes number up or down

in the us, our dotted lines is lower than in other places, not everyone is insured, many more people getting sick but not getting tested, spreading it to others

even insured may have incentives not to get tested

free testing, not sure how much will help us now

docs, nurses, lack enough protective gear

masks not replenished since 2009

1% of estimated 3.5 billion masks the nation would need

5 million 95 masks in stockpile expired

larger percentage of health care workers will fall ill and need to be quarantined

don’t horde face masks, leave them for health care workers, shortage of supply

if you become sick you should wear a mask, but until then you have other means to protect yourself, health care workers do not

health care system capacity line, health care system in Lombardi, Italian outbreak, rated 9.9 out of 10, various us states, no where comes close to 9.9

our health system capacity is much much lower than Lombardi’s, much less margin for error

in any/every way you can start social distancing, because we have basically run out of time, start now, this power lies in your hands, anytime you have a choice about whether or not to go out, stay home

sad fact, here in us, our leaders have failed us miserably

we citizens are smarter and more capable than they are, and we by our actions can take control and fight back this virus

stay in, don’t spread to others, can spread asymptomatically

cost of staying home will be different for some than others, for this reason, govt should compensate those who take financial hit for financial good…that cost would be dwarfed by financial cost of letting the virus ravage as many lives as it would without your intervention

corona virus is here, no matter what we will pay a price, paid in human lives or financial aid

take care of yourself

stay informed

do you best to help out people on front lines

do our best now to bend the curve, be more like korea or taiwan

we have power in our hands, make the right choice

anytime you have the ability, stay in

beat this back, we can all go celebrate afterwards

 

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Revolutionizing Adult Industry Payments with Allie Eve Knox of SpankChain TPP251

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In this episode I’m joined by Allie Eve Knox, VP of Sales at SpankChain for a exploration of her crypto journey and her role at the illustrious SpankChain crypto company

Allie is a Fetish Performer, Content Creator, VP of Sales at SpankChain

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

allie nox vp sales

super in debt,grad school, camming at night, do it house, didn’t have to sit in traffic

2014,

started shooting porn

custom videos, out of bedroom, camming

2017 found spank chain

got in fight with somebody on twitter,

you should hire me, sent resume, i work her now, these are the things i’m gonna do

coming into start up tech space, adult liaison, didn’t know how to deal with my dominatrix character

working with them since ICO

putting out a bunch of pr

we were so strange

aliens in the room

realized, people

weren’t assimilated into tech

did an ico in ico days 2017,

white paper, cam site, crypto only camsite, launched beta april 2018, no privates, no personal chat, site looked really good

beta for a year

discovered, shit hit the fan with crypto, started tanking, people stopped wanting to spend

hard to find user base to part with money

credit card payments brought in more traffic

user account process, get key phrases, all typical crypto stuff

people were really confused by it, constantly losing there stuff

had to completely overhaul the back end

took camsite down, launched few products

hopefully will be bring cam site back up

now first version, model profiles build off of that , where cam site and clip site built on

find favorite model

just put out very first version at AVN

model’s able to get own custom link,

here’s my link pay me through there

links to video content

basically whatever you want

so many benefits in crypto

I’ve had all my accounts shut down, I was violating the rules for selling panties or content

started taking crypto

no one’s gonna protect the adult industry

spankchain, we’re gonna make this for the adult industry

everything’s anonymous, not a thing where I wife is gonna find his credit card purchases

won’t get shut down, low fees

some sites take 50%

credit card processing, we pay taxes

with crypto we just take a 1% fee, .5% for merchants

stable coin, super exciting

really simple cash out process

wills done excellent job of making user experience super easy and intuitive

appreciate community coming together

building a platform models want to use

charge backs, all typical shit

take you’re finances

booty stable coin

really nice to count on,

really nice if I have $250 goal it’s gonna be the same price

whatever you bring in, minus 1% fee

at first didn’t have this on camsite in beta

having to explain price fluctuation

models want to know how to sell things

we just want to make it work, all the technical stuff I don’t know, it doesn’t matter

that’s all I need

I don’t really know how cash works or

don’t have anybody we partner with

gemini sex worker friendly

really good dealings with them

still have to go through exchange, kyc all those things

but I can kind of tease this, we are working on regulations for fiat offramp

load up on spank pay, go and pay bill

going through regulatory process on that, we’ll know mid march

due diligence, paperwork on all that

started camming, paid out on pay card

I could just go cash out automatically

really save me in times when I needed to get paid

that’s really gonna open doors for people

if we start seeing it in everyday practice showing friends

really hope that’s what’s coming next, h

we’re gonna clone product for other people in adult

cannabis, having a hell of a time with payments

there always getting fucked too, we’re gonna co-brand a product, like a white label

we targeted the people who needed this product

we wanted to build the things that the people needed

adult really needed it

this is what we’re all stoked on, this is how we live our lives

the bigger picture is white label it for whoever wants it

start with adoption for people who really need it

people who are unbankable

kind of a solution to a whole lot of problems

urge community to participate in this

send crypto on this

for me, someone in my camroom taught me how to use crypto

2018 started showing up different attitudes towards crypto

adult is always the forefront of technology

maybe if it takes off only a handfull will use it,

never came in there, we’re gonna change the game, we’re another solution we can solve a few problems, we’re hear, we don’t wanna fight

showing up year after year, friendly, hang out with models, provided good community

people started to take us more seriously

started winning awards, good press, kind of the black sheep, kinda strange ones

we were like the red headed step children of the industry

we kept showing up being friendly and cool, putting out products

markets have crashed but we’re still here

a little easier this last year, proven numbers, partners that really like us

been kind of a turning point

now its t

camsite didn’t have a lot of features

small team

takes a long time to do a lot of really cool shit

gave a space for people do do whatever they wanted

people slept

people garden

crypto allows you to do whatever the hell you want

free speech

so open, accepting

it was a no pressure zone, be yourself

smoke, eat

no ranking, no cam score

people were able to monetize it

one time, battle test on site, everybody on at the same time

we want you to break shit, push buttons all be streaming at the same time

spank house, going in tipping,

models streaming, we built this fucking product, spent every moment of our lives

really cool, everybody in this moment, so proud, so thankful model

spank house corporate culture

boys lived in venice beach, had a loft, had extra bedroom, most of team was remote

people would sleep on couches, get together a week a month, bang through things

boys had that place until this winter, downsized, it was a really great spot where the whole team could be together

we’re still remote, devs in canada, I’m in texas, to get team together on call once a week is not enough

company culture, spend a lot of time together, hang out together eat together, work together

we all get together and spend time together

working on this product, lived and breathed

I have a spank chain shirt,

we still have a problem, and have to build a solution

if eth is at 100 or 1000, still that problem out there, no one else is gonna do it

no one else has stepped up

we’re going to work every last second we possibly can

that’s one reason I’m still in this

I need someone to help me protect my money

I need this product

I will work tirelessly to make this product

this what drives every person on the team

whatever that markets gonna do

full force, here are the things we’re gonna do

market has changed so much

Tantra Punk Singing Live

Reflections and Predictions on the Evolution of Music Industry Technology TPP242

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In this episode I share reflections and predictions from my experience of the evolution of music industry technology, excerpted from a academic research interview

My (non-verbatim) notes:

TP: Creating record albums on vinyl with indy punk bands, some times on labels, sometimes 100% diy

have had experience of difficulties, as a very strict very purist indy artist, wanted to avoid bar codes, distributes, anyone who’d want to control you creative direction

getting you hooked on hype

bands renting big tour buses, fancy hotels, their in debt with the label, they lose the right to perform with their name

didn’t have any of those horror stories to that extent, but experiences I had sometimes selling out a little bit to the labels and the music industry, it’s an asymmetrical deal

the sports player who gets their checks is rich, but the person who writes their checks is wealth

if you’re the talent or player or whatever you are that’s generating this ecosystem of wealth around you, always replaceable by whatever’s up and coming next

if you’re not making them money hand over fist, your music gets tossed in the bargain bin, that was the brick and mortal experience before things got super digital

different forms of financial abuse and exploitation, deal end deals, contracts not being honored, music being bootlegged

when you’re sold to have higher hopes but you don’t get the backing that you’d thought you’d get

melting down of band relationships, smart contracts are apt

blockchain tech and facilitate more autonomy and more decentralization, really have more disintermediation between artists and their end user audience, their fans

this technology of smart contracts can create more returns and more yields, more control of royalties, management, intellectual property rights management through smart contracts

a lot of disputes, drama, heart breaking madness when bands form and they all start out as college buddies, high school, garage band, resistant to notion of creating contracts to split up ownership

it’s a myth that if you engage in a contract you’re assuming an adversarial relationship, it’s like when people don’t do prenuptial agreements, happens in bands all the time, really ugly to the point where several bands are using the same name like a forked blocked chain, lot of drama, problems

when you want to bring in a studio musician or side person, can’t afford representation

once a smart contract gets written in code, it can get duplicated, modified, iterated upon

all that stuff is unfolding pretty rapidly

I’ll probably make it into the early adopter bracket, but I’m relying on geeks, developers, want to be in first generation of early adopters, enthusiast for technology

last time I toured with a band, we had a pay with bitcoin option

evolution of stable coins, dai, maker dao, really gonna facilitate solving a lot of early problems that ethereum dapp developers being

one of the most exciting them for me about it is you can resolve and prevent disputes, sit down with collaborators, and say are we gonna go in equal rights per contributor, you might say, the drummer doesn’t write melodies, or lyrics, but we have the creative solidarity, since it’s not just a cult of the front person, there’s a place for that too, for example a band every body wants to value each other’s input equally

thanks to bitpay you can do ethereum payments, a lot of this stuff can work along side or parallel, payment to smart contract, can split percentages to each member

talent buyers at clubs, be just like making a paypal payment or swiping a card, as an artist you could make a statement by going full crypto

if its not direct crypto payments, this band is going to funnel our payments, from all revenue streams, have it all go into a smart contract, still have accountant, still have legal advice

security of immutable blockchain, better to say corruption resistant

people embezzle, people pocket money, some people feel they deserve more

they creep up, a lot of resentment kills bands, how many bands could you save if you were able to preclude 99.9 percent of the drama that happens over sharing resources

M: do you think this is a solution that would really change or help music industry, goes to apple, then to record label, is there a big need for an instant royalty payment

TP: yeah, that’s a great point, I’d say that’s absolutely critical where we get to the point where Andreas Antonopolis, I think he coined, at least the first time I heard the word, basically called it streaming money if we get to that point where for example, some miracle of governance makes it possible for one of the competing blockchains to facilitate lightning speed peer to peer transactions, that don’t get bottlenecked like ethereum network and crypto kitties

sometimes perverse incentives with confirming transactions and blocks, for general listening audience, at this stage of development, early stage, a long lag time, when there’s more use the system gets less efficient, it doesn’t scale, the way we’re used to

we want to get to this state of streaming money, micro payments and splitting up in multiple recipients via smart contracts, within next year or two is my guess, legal contracts that hold water

let’s say you’re a band and you’re on the road, and you already tapped out your advance for the recording, you went out of pocket, you’re out there on the road, like a start up that doesn’t have seed funding, if you’re vehicle breaks down, or you gotta bail out one of your members because they were plastered and started tearing up the hotel room or something, or you have to buy them drugs, if you had streaming money, we just did a great performances, numbers are going up, people sharing music, posting videos, some platforms do have faster payouts, but the older school gears of processing payments

it would be great, for established bands, they could have a really good run putting out a chart topping single, then the growing pains of success can kill the band, they can break up on the first tour, being a touring musician is more stressful than people appreciate, the toll, lack of sleep, road food, immune system depressed, swabbing the country for new strains of colds and viruses

M: for streaming money, artists don’t get paid enough right now, one big question, is it because we as a consumer, buyer of music, 2019 everyone is streaming, I don’t see anyone buying a cd, everyone knows , are the platforms giving themselves too much money, or we as consumers are not willing to pay that money

TP: honestly I’m not in a position myself to say, I would like to believe that in the ecological economics, I’d like to believe that less brick and mortal less physical materials, not as clean and green as you would like it to be, going treeless, but what about all the electricity, not accurate to assume not having a physical product and going digital, trade offs on both sides, I’d like to study that, if we assume going virtual and going digital is going to reduce the foot print of all the petroleum record albums that were printed, you don’t have to fill a landfill with an mp3 that went out of style

I’m grateful for the work that the centralized platforms have done, VC funded, I know soundcloud had a really hard time at certain points, have an appreciation for tech start up business cycles, don’t want to demonize, it’s an invitation what those entities have done, people who want to make more peer to peer open source

hacker mantra, information should be free, I consider myself, if I was Metallica, I would not have sued Napster, in that sense I appreciate that infrastructure, to create these powerful file distribution systems, but if we can reclaim the hacker ethic around that, just like bit torrent did, evolving, paraphrase Andreas, history of internet history of blockchains, if you regulate the centralized platforms, you end up forcing the evolution of people creating ways to work around that are headless

crypto, we can do our own peer to peer unstoppable versions of sharing value, intellectual property rights, sharing media, more on side of creating solutions and not protesting the problems,

why should they be charitable, let them be as predatory as they want, it will just push indy coders,

M: is it still too slow

TP: it depends on the use case, the transaction price on ethereum, the gas price, you have to pay to execute a smart contract, micro payment, peer to peer, alice pays bob one penny as a tip, for whatever the service is, if I release a track for free, if someone wants to give a .5 cent tip and it’s gonna cost a dollar, still not at a point where those micropayments are facilitated

Ameen Soleimani, pioneer developer for state/payment channels, lightning fast micropayments, that can sync up to the base layer, you have to be really advanced, and pay developers a lot of money, its just such a new technology, eventually there will be a more affordable way to develop custom apps, but hey right now if you can do that stuff, you’re gonna get paid really well, he’ll be one of the ones to facilitate that

to answer more directly, depending on your use case, let’s just say micro payments are a ways off for end users to just have some front end app, where you say hey band mates less do different rights on our tracks, that level of granularity, we’re gonna get there, but after side chain, or state channel, payment channel technology, wider range of developers

M: if a broader spectrum of programmers will get into the market, the price will sync

TP: for sure, that’s why there’s so much fighting between the different blockchains, because developer mindshare is the most precious resource and commodity, people with skin in the game, if you have skin in the game with EOS then you want developers to be very nationalistic and tribalistic with their allegiance to the code of that chain

I feel most beholden to ethereum community, even though other alternatives have been in development, not investment advice, its spirit, it’s origin story, I do believe that perhaps with ethereum 2.0 advancements we’ll get to the point where the cost of doing the computations for smart contracts will be more efficient, it was created for platform for decentralized applications

no body is used to increasing ethereum gas limit to process activity on apps, it’s all gotta be tucked under the hood

very much a premium to be in that first wave of technology, I believe in it for sure

M: erc20- explain

TP: that token standard has been prerequisite

bitcoin and ether are not stable coins,

because of the erc20 token standard, ether is like the parent currency, and the erc20 is a child of that currency, but it has independent features, total supply, other parameters for programmable money

bitcoin is programmable money, but very limited, helps reduce attack surface, makes it less easy to hack and corrupt

eth, far more programmable, large attack surface, necessary as another experiment to push limits of programmable money

erc20 had to be created to create subnetworks of value, so anybody can make you’re own token

as the SEC provides more guidance, you could be a registered securities offering with your band, don’t want to use ICO, scams and fraud, before bubble in 2017, very excited about projects tokenizing artists, and bands, so you could have this potential buy in, built in crowd source funding

used to be called the street team, because cyber street team, and now there can be blockchain stream team, incentivized to hold your token

more pertinent use case, artists and fans and music industry at large, you wouldn’t want to have a whole elaborate scheme of smart contract payments bein g made with ether, being what the payouts would be in, youd’ want to use a stable currency

I didn’t want to use centralized stable coins, the maker dao, closer to the spirit of decentralization, crypto anarchy

that’s the thing that’s got to be baked in, probably going to be dai

don’t know when that announcement will be made, viable because stable coin

M: technology right now is overly hyped, major barriers still have to overcome, blockchain will still be there

TP: I do believe there is a place for hybrids between old system and new system, people say there should never be something called a private blockchain, the sewer rat and the bubble boy, if you’re not a public blockchain, being attacked, you’re not building the armor of being open to the web, like a sewer rat, contrast that with bubble boy who didn’t have an immune system, private intranet blockchain, your’e not evolving, updating libraries, hodge podge of kludgey contractor code, unpatched supply chain code that could already be comprised, the security of open source

more eyes on code makes the bugs shallow

what needs to have blockchain and what doesn’t what needs that level of security and what doesn’t

some people describe ethereum as the slowest most expensive computer on earth, feature not a bug, if you want to more security and reliability you should be able to pay for premium, expect to happen on distributed network around the globe, for now we’re accepting those factors as being the cost of taking a step away from the big data hubs of centralization

depends on what you’re trying to do, I believe there’s a place for private blockchains, for internal auditing of record keeping, inventory, in some ways safer not to be connected to the internet, offline ledger or record of state changes, air gapped from the rest of the internet, while considering sewer rat and bubble boy thesis, best way I’ve heard it described

you don’t have to put everything on blockchain, degrees of centralization vs decentralization in the technology stack

base layer could be bitcoin or ethereum, private protocols running on top of that and anchoring back to that

all kinds of ways, on a vertical stack, tie in either above or below our use case, or app, up or down or sideways, don’t think it’s an either or

centralized database vs blockchain

I don’t think we’ll move everything onto the blockchain

there have been horror stories with the dao hack, rolling back the chain, ethereum classic, bitcoin bitcoin cash, no body wants to build their business on these fault lines of male ego conflicts

I don’t want to be the one out there trying to convert people to something that’s not mature enough to be trusted

I developed a relationship with a guy who was early in bitcoin, onboarding third world villagers, sincere desire to bank the unbanked, while he was rolling out his project, bitcoin price fell by 50 percent, can only imagine the look on his face, and those who he got excited about it, all that explaining you have to do, already been in small version of that

M: if blockchain technology can foster trust and transparency is it then possible that trust in technology, could help building up or opening up networks, to connect people better, do you think blockchain technology shifting away intermediaries, peer to peer network, helping creatives to create a better social network

TP: we’ll get to the point where the end user app interface, within a few years, you could program an app by pressing buttons on a gui, you could do millions of dollars worth of smart contract language writing when the tools are built up to a point, and the libraries of code, you can do a custom blockchain for going out with friends to a bar, to split the tab, the way you can gamify everything, if you’re in a band, and you can create an app for every show on that tour and that app for that show, the people in the audience are gonna rate the performance of the member of each band and get paid in real time based on performance, immediately increase the energy, you are gonna get paid extra on top of your per deim, based on the audience rating your performance in real time, making eye contact, audience will have a dial on the app, that app that could be program not be getting 500 million dollars of venture capital, just by downloading that app

there was a time basically you had to install tcp-ip into windows, if you wanted to use the internet, now you’d never think twice

we’ll get there, that’s gonna be the sweet spot, where anybody can program a smart contract

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Crypto-Tantrism and Financial Continence with Lawrence Lanoff TPP229

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In this episode I’m joined by my revered crypto-tantric adept Lawrence Lanoff for an adventurous exploration of the intersections of crypto and tantra. He helps provide deep ancient and modern wisdom for surfing the big waves of changing times and maintaining a heart centered, and cool headed space of love, compassion, and fun.

We share insights on navigating the stormy crypto-currency markets and integrating new evolving trends of decentralized finance, stable coins, and other emerging crypto apps and tech.

I also share a great piece written by the musician Ben Lee on the Tantric Yoga of HODL:

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@benleemusic/the-tantric-yoga-of-hodl

About Lawrence:

Lawrence is an award winning filmmaker, successful entrepreneur and early technology adopter who’s been investing in cryptocurrency since 2011.

He has directed and produced 11 feature films. Lawrence led a production team that won a Chicago Film Festival award and a United Nations Global 500 Award for writing and creating the documentary “We Can Make a Difference”.

Lawrence co-founded Lip Ink, generating upwards of $100mm in revenue and numerous product patents.

Lawrence is a best selling author, world renowned life coach, and was a featured expert in Neil Strauss’ New York Times Bestseller “The Truth”.

Please follow up with Lawrence here:
http://www.lawrencelanoff.com/

Proof of Love Ep. 7 Tantric Sex with Ben Tantra Punk Rebroadcast TPP193

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Ben Tantra Punk PicIn this episode I share a rebroadcast of my interview on the Proof of Love podcast, below is the original show notes, please subscribe to Proof of Love!

What can one say about a crypto tantric episode other than wow.  This is our spiciest Proof of Love yet! Ben Tantra Punk joined Stephanie and I to discuss this ancient practice.  In between a few laughs and blushes, we get a great overview of tantric lovemaking, how it’s different from regular lovemaking, the history of why there is tantric sex in the first place, and the joys of the female orgasm.  We went a bit over on time, but I don’t think you will mind with this subject matter! We need more love in our lives, and this episode will show you how to put some of these teachings into practice, even if calling each other goddess in bed is a little uncomfortable.

About the Guests:

Ben Tantra Punk is a sex worker, feminist porn performer, certified permaculture designer, certified tantric counselor, author, film maker, and recording artist. He’s found healing and empowerment through sacred loving arts, ecological gardening, shamanism, ecstatic trance dancing, martial arts, and open source technology. His ongoing independent short film series, Sexorcism the Tantric Opera, was launched in early 2017. It tells his story of recovery from childhood sexual trauma, adolescent sex trafficking, and the path of a wounded healer. His first book, Psychedelic Goddess Worship: Erotic Memoirs from the Astral Battlefield, is planned for release in late 2019.

He loves to help tantric seekers discover the infinite source of divine love from above, the eternal power and wisdom from the Earth below, and the bliss of conscious, healthy, diverse romantic relationships in between. He provides private coaching and counseling sessions online and in-person, and teaches publicly via livestream on the Ethereum powered SpankChain camsite at: https://beta.spankchain.com/TantraPunk His writings, music, podcasts, videos and contact info can be found at https://www.TantraPunk.com.

Do you have a burning question, or a show idea for us?  Please email us at tatiana@proofoflovecast.com!

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 194 I am being joined by Brian s gross of BSG public relations and he is such a jaw-dropping about page I just decided I really do this but I decided I definitely want to read this to really put the context in here because with with it that the merging of the technology space in the adult industry space and actually to give a little bit of backstory on this we connected now it’s been about 4 years or so since first actually started putting out a press release and seeking really advisement and consult consultation within the the the pr companies within the adult industry to see if there was any possibility to get some traction doing this sort of shamanic pornography and feminist porn kind of brand that I’ve been trying to develop mixing my music and video production and ethics and politics into media and so I have really been kind of putting The Feelers out into the space and Brian gave me some feedback back in the day and we have serendipitously reconnected recently and so I thought why not let’s have a butt supposed to connect in in this podcast domain and again I’m astounded by what he’s accomplished in some of the parallels in our Journeys here so I’m just going to go ahead and read the about page and then we’ll get started with the interview so Jared is BSG public relations takes a precise and strategic approach to promoting all facets of entertainment and efficient and motivated staff handles everything from intricate details of executive with City to positioning our clientele within compelling and effective media campaigns Street marketing teams and Creative Marketing efforts BSG public relations handles all avenues of communication is bringing your study to approach to marketing media and public relations with Creative Solutions that furthers the message & image of our clients we handle everything from the intricate details of executive publicity to positioning clients with compelling media campaigns we look to broaden and brand artist companies and products multi-level publicity campaigns combined with knowledge and background in every facet of entertainment media and communication the most importantly always putting the client first Brian Gross president of BSG PR has been in the service of media and public relations for over 26 years gross has been employed by company said Steve American recordings Warner Brothers records reprise records Elektra Entertainment Group Vivid Entertainment Group and such organizations as the Lollapalooza tour Brian Gross was an executive producer for Rio TX the search for Adam and Eve his background includes all facets of public and media relations working with some of the largest businesses celebrities and music acts in the world Brian thank you so much for joining me on the podcast and please tell us all about your personal Journey how did you get into this position of such influence and expertise school is my senior year and I’m a I’m a big Sports person as well and I was not good enough to make the varsity basketball team but wound up helping out with the younger teams and I want to getting fired for verbally assaulting a referee who completely screwed up a game and all of a sudden I had free time and I literally took out my CD collection which I know that sounds so funny in this day and age but went through it and started calling record labels and pretty much got blown off by many of them because I was a senior in high school they were looking for college kids and one label an independent label def American the girl who answered the phone was in the PR department and she still one of my best friends to the stay cuz she called she I said come in for an interview and before I knew it I was driving after school three days a week from Newbury Park California to Burbank to make press kits and learn all about the music industry well that is exciting so what were some of the what what are some of the bands in an album is like what were you into at the time I was definitely a classic rock kid a NuWave and I just wasn’t you know I was sort of what the radio fed me so you know I hadn’t really branched out as far as my music likings were concerned and you know early 90s you know 90 to 91 92 you realize just how there was no such a divided because you know really popular stuff was extremely poppy you were on the end of sort of the metal era you had this grunge thing happening you had this sort of underground music thing happening you had punk rock obviously happening but I grew up in the suburbs and and it just didn’t resonate with me at the time you know then you go to a record label and you start going through the CDs and you just start this massive Discovery and bands walk in and you meet people and you spend time with artists and musicians and it just completely through open a world that I was you know I was aware but I wasn’t aware to that extent and it was pretty exciting to just see the variety especially at this specific record label the variety of of music that was being put out and and how exciting it was awesome so from there so what how to tell us the story of how you evolved from the doing stuff mostly in the music and more and more General entertainment business into the adult industry which I see you have a lot of accolades from so I I mean I work my way up in the record industry from 93 to 99 I I was took a couple internships than an assistant job than a West Coast tour tour publicist West Coast Regional tour publicist job and then I saw what Napster was doing and I realized you know as a as a low man on the totem pole in the satellite office for record label I better figure something out and literally fell in my lap where two people one of which had this specific that had this position and and the other was the brother of the owner of the company hit me up and said hey you know you should interview for this job that’s going to open up to be the head of PR and marketing for a company called Vivid which I was obviously very familiar with as a young male and so the money was a lot more and the opportunity was there and it was just one of those things I was 23 and I wasn’t going to say no I couldn’t pass it up so I became the head of PR and marketing for Vivid Entertainment in the spring of 99 while you were busy absorbing all of this until from the corporate world and very established Enterprises and then you’re building essentially what will become your your own personal company and brand can you tell us about some of the some of the lessons you learned some of the highlights of of your journey along that way if kind of building your own becoming an entrepreneur as opposed to an employee working for Stephen her she had a very hands-off approach you know he wanted me to practice the way I had learned doing publicity at the record labels and bring that same approach to the adult film stars that were under contract with this company and to the company itself so I really had this sort of open book of you no opportunities and and and really just publicizing a a massive brand his thing was don’t spend any money which you know you laugh at but it was pretty when you when you eliminate budgets and you have to be creative that’s that made you have to work relationships in and put ideas out there and look for opportunities that I think in this day and age we wouldn’t even think twice about it but at the time we’re pretty groundbreaking you know so you know what that in mind it just became abaa I learned so much from that that when I went on my own I took sort of his entrepreneurship of run Dino of starting and running a massive adult entertainment company with what I learned is being a publicist and I’m just sort of found my way I had some incredible mentors the forest publicist go ahead incredible mentors who you know I went to when I started my company said how to what am I doing how do I do this you know and they were so giving and and so just easy you know so open Armon and I’m just taught me so much in a really short. Of time to where I was just off and running and getting clients and doing what I’ve been doing what I could I mean for me getting up every day and doing my job isn’t necessarily hard and I think I’m fortunate that I have that s Ellison and work ethic that I know is very challenging for many people but you know I just learned quickly I could get a lot of clients and and synergize and and do a lot for them and and just sort of Broad and from there awesome yeah I’m having flashbacks to reading a book called guerrilla marketing back when I was doing start up stuff and and it really did get a budget mattered so you had to teach you had to be creative and you had to think out-of-the-box so I can I can resonate with that and I remember one of a CEO for a company I work for has said you know the difference if there’s a difference between marketing and PR and marketing is what you say about yourself in PR is what other people say about you and you really really want to have that that perspective that that’s where the third person perspective in your printing and copying in to have it buffering so that the artists and the company’s don’t aren’t doing all of that he’s some kind of damage control I guess you could say and sometimes they just that stuff that Shameless self-promotion that people people can see through it on the on the receiving end and then on the giving end you’d rather not be tooting your own horn so much so it’s a really vital function that you play in the in the ecosystem of have any kind of business and I love to hear about just soap for people who aren’t that well versed in what a publicist does it would appear our company does tell us about the sort of day today and I’m kind of break it down for people who might not know famous for a living right you know the longer sort of breakdown of that is you know celebrities Brands companies hire a publicist to get there messaging in there and what they have to sell out there to the media which is then you know red watched listen to buy hopefully millions and increases sales increases exposure and increases the the growth of of whatever the brand or the company or the person is so it’s an aspect of marketing but it’s solely deals with sort of the public Persona and then obviously the media which radio TV print and online are the four basics of that and obviously they in this day and age you know what you know podcast would kind of be filed under radio but it’s also online it’s audio but there’s there can be a video component that can be a a written component so you have a lot of Lines Blurred when it comes to the media nowadays and I just think for me it’s important for my clients in this day and age there’s so much opportunity there so many ways to get your message out there and you know me and you know my team and and myself we look to find those opportunities finals relationships and and do everything we can for clients to to accomplish the goals that they have female except for us how’s your job gotten more difficult at all or more challenging in the age of social media where you have the potential for celebrities to put their foot in their mouth to and create these Mega backlashes online that you kind of do have to do some some damage control on that do you have any thoughts what the the social media landscape has done for your industry herself you know social media gives you a way to do a more immediate Outreach but sometimes you have to be careful clients have to be careful what they say out there you know what I work more left-of-center stuff where you know I’m not working conservative projects that you know they have to be really careful what they say but certainly at I work with clients that you know we talked about messaging and we talked about what they put out there and make sure we’re on the right we’re on the right track and we’re in agreement and on the right path but I think social media you know I think it’s it’s positive it’s certainly a life-changing things it certainly has changed the landscape of society and and whatnot on a larger scale but you’re not the end of the day we all are just fascinated by other people and they do so it just open doors opens doors in that respect what do you know actually makes me think about how it made some sense you talking about Dimension to have the image of Tower Records on Sunset and I’m just the decline of the record industry and all of the digitization of all kinds of media and how that took a big chunk out of profits for a lot of folks in an industry but when I based on what you were just say no actually realized you might think that the same thing would happen to PR once people could become demigod celebrities on social media by themselves but the reality is they probably need to hire a publicist more than ever because you need that filter right you need that you need someone to advise you on on the strategies of how you express yourself because it’s so easy to just fire something off that just Neo take sweat they say it could take 5 years to build a career in 5 seconds to destroy rights and all I would add to it is you know you need you need someone in my position when you have something that is so public and you need someone that can help you because a lot of times there is a lot of Crisis and a lot of people don’t know what to do and we’ve certainly witnessed over the years when when things go wrong or how you know when things are handled poorly and you know we live at a time where the media is constantly attacked so they’re going to attack that so you want to be on the right side of things and you want you know if you want to handle your media aspect as professionals possible and it’s there are challenges you know I’m not a brain surgeon this isn’t brain surgery by any any respect but it’s an important part of the marketing and sales aspect and the overall brand awareness of who you are and what you’re trying to accomplish yeah I think that was a good real basic intro and overview and just kind of hammers hammers in that this part of the ecosystem of success as a creative artist is not is not going away in or should it and so it was it is a breath of fresh air and I think about it a lot I think about a lot how how to moderate myself and there’s a lot of fear and and hesitation in this climate of you know you can really you can really put your foot in your mouth so I I I think it says probably at yeah it’s it’s been on my mind you know this whole your sector of industry and where it’s at so this is timely for me until I guess I would say to be somewhat selfish for a moment here with the last few minutes I would say that I guess bringing this back to what my my unique value proposition is to the world as my representing myself and my brain really it is I guess it is kind of element in a way I’m saying sexuality and pornography and all forms of of music and art they can all actually be very healing and very therapeutic and there’s almost a bias against that because people sometimes in some sense people want to just have really either extremely kind of edgy entertainment that just gets them off sexually or titillates them or sort of just appeals to that Hollywood sense of just completely not necessarily that intentional or that healing or that spiritual and so there’s kind of a bias against what I’m offering which could be seen his kind of all you’re you’re just a goody-two-shoes you’re kind of a mama’s boy you want people to be meditating and doing yoga and actually it might my sort of reply to that that biases that actually know what what some of the practices that are done in shamanic Sexual Healing Sarah on your work are actually equally if not more extreme and in and actually riveting and and put you on the edge of your seat as is anything that would be considered danzo or Triple X Ino Xtreme Hardcore and it really is Hardcore to be doing some of the more spiritual aspects of sexuality so when I I put out a press release I don’t know if that was the one that you saw or if that was a wet what the time frame was around that but I would just say to you do you think there is a niche for what would I would call shamanic pornography or porn that intense did not only educate but also to promote healing and healing from trauma and and what not yours if not longer you know when I first got in the industry as far as adult entertainment goes is very one-dimensional especially the media coverage and it was all about getting eyeballs because you could use the word pornography in a way that you know people be like oh what what it what are they going to talk about and then then then there was a change in the change happened when media like Vice came along and media like BuzzFeed and and other media that said to a certain extent and we’re not going to just treat this as one-dimensional because it isn’t a one-dimensional discussion it is in a one-dimensional product you know as as the adult industry expanded I found it interesting that the media expanded in their coverage and you have certainly the negatives does the word in general is certainly looked at in a negative way and I rarely use it I say it because of that is once you say that word and it’s you know maybe one day it’ll be changed or looked at not as this glaring sing but as a form of entertainment form of Education a form of you know healing as as you as you work on but the media look to do more coverage and be more multi-dimensional and to what you’re trying to accomplish and what you’re doing what you’re doing and what you’re trying to accomplish to my point is you can find media that’s not easy but you can find people you can find writers you can find me there you can find public entities you can find people that will want to discover what you are doing and will want to make others aware and will want to build the foundation and build a fanbase in and build a unit around it so which is not the issue these days the issues speed of time and the issue is just sort of the you know overwhelming amount of media that we deal with everyday especially in our current political climate where we’re being overdosed with one piece of toxic news after another and end toxic not men the political fashion just met met you know we’re bombarded with different types of briefs and stories and just aspects of life that can that are just so fast and furious and you’re trying to fit in there you know you’re almost trying to swim upstream and place you know place your story on a rock while well water keeps hitting in the face so I I I constantly am taking on opportunities and clients and different types of niches and different types of products and different types of stories because I know who’s to say that I know what a media person will want to write about or not I don’t what I do is I give them the opportunity and I find out hey is this is this interesting do you want to do this do you want to cover this and it’s yes or no or mid might be a maybe or they’re on the fence or they’ll think about it and we did we discuss it and see what happens so it’s just a the media is a constant River at its its 24/7 its domestic and international you know stories can break anywhere in the world and then just travel the speed of light and around the globe and become as you know become viral so it’s just a it’s just the the effort and the Mine Song of people in your position as to am I ready to take this Challenge on I’ve something Niche I’ve something unique but I think it’s important and and how do I get it out there and and what you know how many people can I turn on to what I have to build from from where I’m at well those are profound words of wisdom and I’ve got chills because I know that at some point I have I’ve got two to cross that and make that leap of faith sand and be willing to be criticized and be willing to be sued and be willing to be all kinds of things and having that team and I feel like the podcast has been a tool to to kind of build that team and to know if there is a you know what keeps me up at night is what happens if there is an influx of capital what if there is a viral content piece that get 50 goes out and it’s not that you become rich and famous overnight at you is that you become suddenly under the microscope and you need to know about compliance with a lot of things and so that that’s my Virgo mind getting getting very sort of The Fearless aspect where I try not to overthink even though it’s impossible but I just I just try and push you know you just you know I I’ve constantly at a career of why not you know why not internet a record label why not internet another one why not drop out of school you know cuz it was just wasting time and money you know and then why not become an assistant why not become a tour publicist why not go to an adult entertainment company Why not start your own PR Company why not work with Gene Simmons you know it’s you know if you can answer why not then there’s no reason you know and you know we always I’m a Star Wars junkie and I think you might be in the same generation or not but we all sort of live by the the words until the age of of Yoda and so you try not you do or you don’t you do not but you just don’t try to go for it and you know there’s certainly you you think things out and they’re processing is calculated risk and what not but I’ve always another mindset where if you if you’re if you’re thinking too much about it then it’s just time wasted you know you’re not pushing forward and what you’re trying to accomplish but once you get past that you know and and you’re not going to know if I sitting around thinking you’ll never know if it takes off or not you just won’t it is the action and it is the risk that you have to eunos put out there and find out if you have something or not and you know I definitely I’ve had all kinds of clients I really have and I’ve had successes clients it succeeded sold our company and made lots of money and I have clients that failed you know but it just nothing worked and Company disbanded and I’ve got you know hundreds of files of clients over 19 years and but they all they all went for it you know wherever they are you know there’s somewhere you know that they took a risk and even when I produced a reality show you know what they say it was a risk I was a two-year process to even get to production but once you know once we decide we’re going to do it my partners and I at the time of that production company we just put her head down and we weren’t going to give up and we got the parties involved then it did well could have done better but it did well exist in there broke a lot of ground but it’s definitely important you know there’s just that dividing line of doing something and in what it is that hold you back from from going for it yeah I hear you there is just kind of wrap up here to respect your time and then I will just say that again More Chills and more of just that that cause mcnab’s you know there was there is one Flagship I guess I would say it was for me was like the pilot episode of the series that I’m doing now it’s called sexorcism the tantric Opera twitch wow Google Keyword that I want to fully on because a lot of without weather so I can get is an album is a band that did an album called sexorcism there’s there’s a kind of I don’t know if it’s play with the idea but but what I’m bringing to it is it is definitely from a pure-hearted place of sincere documentarian work and so hopefully that’s I think what’s going to be what I would put money into an invest in to try to get some some media coverage on and I’ve been a little bit shy about it now for a couple of years just wanting to not be the one to push that in people’s faces but that’s exactly the layer of buffer that I need of someone to say hey look take it or leave it this is what this guy’s doing here it is and if I can have that someone like you help me with that then I think it’ll be it’ll be a dream come true so we will we will talk offline about what your thoughts are for the trajectory of a project like that but I would love to discuss obviously well and I look forward to having that discussion and obviously I appreciate being on your podcast in and you know getting to have this kind of discussion I think I ain’t got to a certain extent I think people you’re right don’t really understand publicity and public relations and media relations and you know marketing to a full extent but I think it’s you know having the conversation and getting the opportunity to talk about it even one person goes wow that’s interesting I want to I want to know what that career is you know something I’m always interested in doing it you know making people aware of the career and path I chose the life I chose and you know going from there well I’m sure there’s a lot of people who would say as they received the rewards that they couldn’t have done it without you and so hopefully I will be able to join those ranks sooner rather than later and again and again thank you for reaching out to me as very synchronistic yeah let’s let’s be in touch do you want to tell people where to find where to find your work and just yeah side BSG pr.com and my Twitter and my Instagram RBS GPR and it’s financials at when I made the company name it was like well we’ll just Brian Scott gross of my name and BSG are my initials and public relations and it was just a simple as that so I guess I was another thing I learned of like trying to keep you know keep it linear and you’re hiring me and so that’s where a Vsepr came from awesome alright will Brian thank you again so much that I had a great time and can’t wait to get to know you better and move on from here so thank you so much again and have a great afternoon thank you you as well look forward to catching up with you again real soon all right take care of podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the 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How the Plantrika Dr. Yalila Espinoza is Healing the Soul of Crypto TPP192

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Yalila PicIn this episode I’m joined again by Dr. Yalila Espinoza for an exploration of her medicine journeys into the heart of the cryptocurrency and blockchain movement.

I first hired Yalila to advise on an experimental healing ceremony design back in 2013 after discovering her great works online. Now over 5 years later, we’ve remained colleagues and friends in the shamanic space, and have done two previous podcast episodes, it turns out we’ve also been deeply immersed in crypto-psychedelia.

It was an exquisite gift to be able to have her on the show this time to talk about this aspect of our life journeys that we hadn’t yet connected on, and see the many emergent properties of mutual understanding and shared analysis.

She’s been doing some amazing work to bring sacred wisdom teachings, ceremony, ritual, and other shamanic modalities into the the heart and soul of the crypto movement. Knowing she has stepped up in this way feels like a new multi-dimensional super heroine has arisen to build bridges from the amazon jungle to silicon valley, wall street, and beyond.

Please visit her website at:
https://inner.one

About Yalila:
With this unique moment of cultural evolution, Espinoza finds herself at the center of an ecosystem where powerful business and technology influencers are asking for healing and wholeness.  While working in hospitals within a medical model and then conducting her PhD research on wellness and healing, she noticed the gap in the delivery of health services and the chasm between her own esoteric spiritual offerings and the specific needs of thought leaders. Espinoza found that her clients, while pioneering new businesses and technologies tended to suffer from burnout, depression, and disease. She realized transforming the human and machine networks of the world, like the Internet, must begin with physical, emotional, and mental transformation of the self. So in 2017, Espinoza founded InnerNet, an integrated wellness advisory offering online programs, one-on-one coaching, and retreats designed to optimize leaders’ potential to realize their missions with creativity, clarity, and compassion. 

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 192 I am being blessed today with Doctor you Lila Espinoza founder of internet and a wellness consultant and she’s been on the show a couple of times before please go to my website and look up you’ll be the Espinoza you will find some very deep it’s a very deep Rabbit Hole added to the things we’ve gotten into in the past with Shamanism and healing work and now we’re going to be talking about healing and Shamanism through technology and through blockchain and all really new and exciting developments that to have have cut the world taking the World by storm and we are Kindred Spirits in our approach to I would say the the promise of of a decentralized more mycelial type of networking architecture for governance and for autonomy in for communities in in having that deep lens of shamanic practitioner work and in Journey work we can I would say really resonating really commiserate on the need for a a bottom-up approach to solving the world’s problems in in and starting with the financial problems in the capital distribution problems startup funding problem venture capital for women Founders for people who are doing philanthropic work there’s a huge need for this and also there’s a lot of people who are outspoken psychedelic Warriors within the crypto space I know that the anarchapulco conference has a a sort of there their opportunities for for for ceremonial work that that I’ve heard about and there’s also a crypt of psychedelic conference that’s happened at least once already if I don’t know if it will win next one is being planned but I had to have some some conversations with folks around that already so I’m looking forward to catching up with you you Lila and please tell us all about what you been up to and I love to just hear that they love story of you you’re you’re recording of the blockchain tech I love hearing about how people you know get seduced and then become Believers yes thank you so much for having me and saw the listeners I look forward to connecting and whatever way is in the cosmic alignment so it’s interesting because I’ve reflected in the past week about my journey with in Shamanism psychedelics and now technology because I’m giving a talk actually later today in San Francisco and I I looked at how you know focusing on the Life Energy centers of our body and how I started off an academic world in the medical model working in hospitals really focused on health and wellness and what does that mean for humans in in this part of our Evolution and became dissatisfied and then went into you could say that the third Energy Center of power and when it is Shamanism and in terms of you know how energy is used in in healing and really the base of a believe in Shamanism is around at the power to tap into these energies to know them to work with them and be in service to our community and so the power of the light in the dark and shamans choosing which way they want to search time is it really the the key difference so I went into a long journey in Shamanism personally 3 Anjali and going down into the previant jungle and having my first three months at Journey with Ayahuasca and tobacco and it’ll in isolation very intense journey and that really well 13 years ago was the start of my connection with technology and Consciousness I realize that now reflecting back because in that dream journey and isolation I came out of that we call them deetta’s I called him so much Journeys and out of that three months you know one might expect you and I are I love myself and I found God or if you know found my purpose in life what I asked that came out of that Journey with was the importance of finding a way to bridge traditional Shamanism with contemporary technology and that for me to be in the world and actually thrive in the simplest way what I needed was my iPhone in one hand and my pipe into back one another and with those two technologies I would be able to to learn how to reconnect with the soul of technology so so then I didn’t think much of it at the time but really then it led me to the second Energy Center and all-around sexuality and sensuality I did my PhD research on that and when it’s my own Journey around that piece of of my healing that needed to happen and then was serving as a counselor and a Healer around sexuality and psychedelics which maybe cuz I was speaking at Horizons in New York on the on my research study and that’s what I met in 2013 the sum of the blockchain folks and one of them in particular who is hosting me we became good friends and he led me into the folks who actually work Hill from the co-founders of aetherium in the start-up projects that were happening in your cat at that time is pretty early 2013-2014 and I can’t I didn’t think much of think much of the technology I just didn’t have that background so I couldn’t understand it but was fascinating is through my serving in an offering psychedelic Journeys Inn in South America to these folks in the blockchain world I was actually able to see how the mechanism of this technology in ceremony so my first taste of it was actually seen it you know hallucinating or altered state and seeing the connection somehow the minds of these blockchain folks are so strong I think it generally in the tech world that it was such a was so invigorating and an exciting because that I could actually asked him to show me you know quantum physics and mathematical equation I could see it and so then okay that I went to you no more of the written information and actually learning about the code and and seeing how and if practical way they would this information was being ground within the blockchain technology and then all the incredible positives that came out of this technology could be the foundation of a whole new like paradigm shift in the way that values is exchanged so that was really exciting to me and you know this this took me a good for years to learn I’m a slow learner and one way but I also like to learn deeply so I was learning it experientially and then your written material talking to a lot of the blockchain founders of Neo various companies and then he knows Tina and action and actually you know getting some of these apps and in learning me know what they can actually do and going to a lot of conferences watching Converses and and that just got really caught up in just the excitement you know this is a space that is just draws a lot of innovative minded future thinkers and innovators and you know just a sense of camaraderie and supporting each other and I couldn’t believe how welcomed I was as coming from academics in healing they they respected me and I respected them and I was able to learn how to you no make that bridge from my world to their worlds and really getting excited about the exchange of our information and so I just was seduced by I not only they technology but the people that were drawn to it and the dedication to changing our our economic Paradigm & in the way that we set up all kinds of you know housing and you know land and food and it is just so incredible so you know here we are 5 years later and I’m still right in the mix of it and you’re really excited now about virtual reality and Ai and how that can be bridged into the ceremonial space that’s that’s my journey so far in NFL well that was so amazing and I just was having chills and I could just cinematically follow along and when you got to the point of when you said you were able to see how the technology Works in ceremony that was so deeply moving and so beautiful because it’s such a multi-dimensional phenomenon and if in it’s so multi-layered into to appreciate I think I I made this comment to a friend is all it was a very very high level developer in his face and he and I I just made a joke in a recent podcast with him I said the Bitcoin makes Bitcoin makes crop circles looks like look like a play school set you know in terms of the degree of multidimensionality that goes into it and it is it is such a I mean and Andreas Antonopoulos recently and in one of his podcast video presentations and interviews he he said that when he read the Bitcoin first year of the Bitcoin white paper but then when you actually read the code it was for him basically like a symphony and he was brought to tears when he could understand the genius of it and it’s so apt for a for psychedelic journey to be able to ask for this for this field of of wisdom and information and Math and Science and Technology and code for it to just presented itself and dance in your mind for you in that place of ceremony where anything’s possible anything can be visualized and so I just think that is so beautiful on the inside knowing that you also this is really mind-blowing for me to knowing that you have this I wasn’t aware so much so basically we had already been talking and both of us had had this sort of like part of our subconscious basically beginning to be initiated into the space but we weren’t really because it wasn’t of our direct backgrounds it wasn’t an instant sort of I guess it didn’t click instantly for me I was explain how work and I thought it was cool and I was like yeah that’s internet money for anarchists that’s awesome you know but I wasn’t an investor I wasn’t a coder and it took a while once I went through you know the second Energy Center sexuality and and it was beat the psychedelics it actually showed me the importance of myself dropping my energy down into the first root Center where you no money safety you know security that whole place at a lot of healers you know maybe feel uncomfortable in or don’t have the opportunity to be in that often that I was able to really staying in this Center and part of it was that I was getting paid in crypto you know years ago from some of my clients who are you know the pioneers and in blockchain and I didn’t understand what that meant at the time I was like okay I guess they’re very kind and helping me open up my first Bitcoin wallet etcetera and I didn’t even understand it at the time and effort to understand it because you know what that meant for me and how to do the exchanges and things like that so I started off and makes it more The Surreal level of the fit if you say mathematics and physics and seeing how matters to me is a version of God of that Godlike energy and seeing how it comes down into the code it is beautiful really need and you see it yeah I totally agree and you know that I don’t know if you how big of a Terrence McKenna fan you are thinking of becoming more of a Dennis McKenna fan over the years but something that I loved about so endearing to me about about a lot of his talks was when he talked about the feminine Spirit of internet technology and how excited he was that we would be able to eventually use things like VR to give people immersive training or sort of it be able to create a visual language like the Ayahuasca experience where we could start to really understand each other better through through a universal language that is symbolic but also based on objects and colors in math and it to me this is such a fulfillment of that feminine Force coming through a lot of people who are you know he would always say that you go to a Silicon Valley startup office and it’s all these microdosing you know acid heads with hair down to their ass and I’d like to hear I know there was a time when you were when you were when you were starting to talk about Silicon Valley and bringing the medicine the same to you go and bring the medicine to those who are really reshaping reality from that level of of power of Technology do you want to just talk more about maybe without disclosing anything confidential of course just some of the some of the before and afters you’ve had the makeovers that you’ve had with some of the tech Geeks and how they’ve how they’ve been able to be massaged by that the medicine Spirits have become to Adorn one of them did gently say to me if they feel it’s not a lie to myself that is that a techie kid learning to love that part in myself and and and also honoring that you know every person is different in their enemies that divers field and that there are some common patterns that I have seen and the fact that I was given the directions psychedelics to serve a particular Community around the you know very influential and Powerful leaders in the text field that I’ve been able to track and and see how they actually lead differently in and really the the number one thing is the realization that the transformation is starts with the inner transformational journey and so even having the giving themselves that time you know few days it’s you sink into a different space in their mind right so it’s not like I have a container and say okay everyone thinking about your project Source. You know you know this go back to your family history and I want you to cry or something not at all what I was seeing is that the synthesis the stamina in the dedication in the Brilliance of these of these folks and that it really good-hearted people and that they were passionate about what they were doing and giving their mind that’s almost like the ceremonial space giving their mind a space to allow other information that may not be in their Consciousness you know at the time she come through and that’s where you hear about folks you know even the microdosing folks if they go to Peru and sit with Anna Ayahuasca Circle and I you know ask a question of it a problem that they’ve had you know mathematical equation or some something on their project they can’t quite figure out and that giving up space to have the different kind of intelligence guide them in in discovering a piece of the puzzle and so I find that you know when in general folks being very compassionate and curious and how these intelligence come together the other thing is in terms of their leadership is that once they are hard intelligence because that’s really a lot of the psychedelics the sacred psychedelics are helping us to tap into that heart energy into once they are in love energy seeing that the influence that makes and how they engage with their team member so you know more of a knowledgement that is it you know they’re all together in this project and higher level and it really honoring people for where they’re at in the heart of leadership is is learning how to inspire people to grow within the company within their teams within the project until having more patients and you know seeing the bigger picture so it’s not all about profit and yes of course I’m surprised and seeing that if if there’s a dedication to the why of their company and of the people that are there then that why and the purpose of the collective purpose actually creating more success and inflow with within the within the company so that’s one pattern also that I’ve seen Etsy the other that the third one is is around these texts Psychonauts of the learning how to bridge technology and spirituality which is always been one of my big passions and I didn’t really know how it so they’ve taught me a lot and in how this connection can unveil itself and in many ways and then coming from their religious background or spiritual background and then how they think of of math and in quantum physics in relation to a fascist like it blows my mind you know when they’re talking to me about this cell this Ray this field of the interplay between the Divine and the and form and structure and yeah I didn’t mean to cut you out there to say I wanted to make that mention so please continue the inner transformation and their their passion and purpose and then the second with the love more love and compassion for all the teams and and then that the more philosophical connection here that those those really stand out for me folks that were with me five years ago are still with me so I actually am able to track you know connect with the Divine or connect with the love Center I mean it cuz it’s not that simple everyone is sort of you’re learning a different piece and and so really what I love to do is trade space that people can share these pieces with each other and in how that actually informs that transition for their next step you know when whatever fits a personal life or professional life but it is still fascinating to me and I’m so very you know intimately woven in with with the baseballs beautiful well knowing now even more haven’t you said all of this which is so beautiful and invigorating and exciting and I just I’m so I’m so glad we’re just In This Moment having this conversation because it has been I feel like I’m it’s been extremely painful and in in triggering for me to to look at the shadow of what’s happening in this in this space which is you know I’m going to ask you to bear with me for a minute while I kind of organize my thoughts on how to how to bring this Dimension to the conversation in a in a good way I’m going to Omit using that the names of any individuals that I will not going to call anybody out or or put any putting it in the spotlight to anyone but but it’s it’s what would what I can see if we step back from from a more shamanic perspective is that there is a in absolute crisis of hyper toxic masculine Behavior that’s creating these extremely almost mythical an archetypal Wars of the Gods and end DIYs always think it’s a play on words to think about how Davis and Davies in in the in and they can talk about the devil’s right so there is it’s almost like The Vedic battles in the sky to me these genius mathematicians cryptographers programmers and them their armies of now the Speculator there’s all these high frequency trading robot armies that are trolling the warring factions and so it’s kind of like if you were to open The Vedas and you see them describing these battles of cities in Disguise and all of his alien foreign hyper advanced technology and the sort of drama playing out and the people on Earth are watching this drama and just trying to trying to create some record of it and most of it is just completely unintelligible to them cuz it’s so far out and so Advanced and almost seems like there’s just this war of the AstroWorld coming down and and duking it right above Earth dropping debris from that that Astro Battlefield and things just like falling on people’s heads and then people just scratching their heads trying to make sense of it so you have the bestest what’s coming to my mind when I think about these these programmers and their projects and their their Venture funding and all of these different puppeteers of technology in this battle between open source and closed source and regulated and unregulated in public and private blockchain Jaden and if it would it would it all is sort of sort of this rhyme of history is just these patriarchal warlord and we would calm just really do she really kind of integrated uninvolved masculine guys who are who are gorgeous and I’m just they’re just getting more and more narcissistic and sociopathic and they’re tweeting and and the technology of social media creates this really kind of Twisted Echo chamber and when I when I bring this up sometimes people will say of you know you’re trying to use psychedelics in ceremony and Shamanism as a Panacea and you know it’s not a magic pill and you know but I just keep saying like I think I need to hear these men do that family work and be brought into a ceremony where do certainly the ones that are that are just creating like threatening to just nuclear meltdown of all the cryptos in the opposing camps and just using their stashes of Mega you know stashes of of Bitcoin to flood the market and to manipulate as tactical that what they call the hash worse but that just happened in probably the hash words just knocked bitcoin price and 1/2 they’re just waving around these lightsabers and in in digging into the charts and and I one waiting for the sort of like trumpeting angels to come in and bring in the Davies you know the akalis in a Durga is going to come in and start grabbing these These are is Zeno by the by the Scruff of their neck and in and actually intervene so I’m wondering I know that’s a lot but anybody who is his familiar with yoga Tantra me all the scriptures that the talk about these epic battles or even from the Western perspective that the mythical Gods fighting you know this is not new and what seems to be the promise of the Shakti movement of Tantra and the Psychedelic feminist movements coming out of their group that you’re involved with there’s got to be some maternal wisdom brought to these boys and their toys you know so that she take it from there I totally resonate with this the Epic War analogy because it is real is that I’ve been to blockchain conferences and meetups in cities all over the states and and you’re up and and what really carries me through and I feel so fortunate somehow I have this eternal optimism and I certainly see the shadow I see the darkness 10 gauge with it and I’m still very optimistic and I think it’s really in my own connection with the sacred psychedelics in that they’re continually I feel like they got my back and they’re continually raising me up and and encouraging me and motivating me a stay steady with in the turmoil and I feel like for a lot of us and probably folks listening that this is part of our role is to learn how and these These are at War like an energy battle that we are centered and we emanate that that love and not always loving everyone per se you know that’s around us and in this these toys with our boys with toys and I do feel I can honestly say neutral when I meet them and I and I just said luck and I just what I’m doing is I’m like an anthropologist and I’m watching am seeing how they’re engaging with the but that the people around them and I start where people are at right so when I’m speaking to some of these folk is not like I think he would be good for you to do family systems work and come to this you know come to Peru like I would never say that I start or people are at I’m like what motivates you right now and you know once the trust his is built by and continually is is building and there’s a softening that happened so you know for me in 5 years in and I I do believe that there is a beautiful sense of respect for each other and trust this building and I’m watching where this energy takes us play so I what I can get really involves is the patience and perseverance and faith and that this is you know way bigger than me I’m being in service and being directed by these other intelligences along with my own you don’t be Discerning and where to actually Channel my energy and then I’m patient and it’s been tough you know I really wanted to get into some of these blockchain meetings and and I have actually is sometimes I’m like okay let’s talk about the let’s talk about how you know the technology is actually had of our human consciousness level as well as our laws right so you know how can we catch those pieces up to the level that technology to actually maximize the benefit of it and then you know how can we actually expire is that Founders and CEOs and and developers to to build that projects that are noble that have elevated intentions that that is a sense of good for all I do feel it’s possible yeah I totally agree I Kevin this is the most thrilling and exciting development in my entire life for sure if not in the history of the battle of Good and Evil on Earth that’s I really feel like it and you can see it it brings out the best and can sometimes bring out the worst but but really even those who would be considered more more super villains now in the space the lot of them started out as Jedis training humbly with Yoda it you know so they all have that imprint of that desire to do good eyebrows really very few people who I think are are fundamentally irredeemable I mean I don’t know if I feel better that way about anybody in the darker the shadow is the more potential there is to bring that medicine from those places so I agree with you and then I fly it’s I guess it’s easy for me to say or easier for me to say in some senses because I am a white mostly cis-male and so I don’t experience some of the author of out of the exclusion and in sometimes bigotry but at least at least Prejudice and you know it was through the women in crypto track at the crypto invest Summit in La last year that I discovered things like there’s only four percent of female CEOs in the US at least and then only 2% of venture funding goes to women Founders and that studies have proven that female executives are more profitable so whether you’re a feminist or not you’re leaving money on the table if you’re in any kind of a position of power in the business world in the investment world to not be creating more balance in in that in that space so I guess I’d like to ask psychedelic feminism Financial feminism women in crypto women in blockchain do you find yourself a building strong Sisterhood networks in circles amidst all of the other boys with toys as he said to align myself with very brilliant women in the field and be there and so we’re learning with each other and what’s just so inspiring is that some of these clients who are in their late 20s early 30s forging ahead and they sell I don’t know how they do it but they just have this determination and and also feminine ways of going through these hurdles in their in their workplace and them in the company’s and let me know some of them Founders and dealing with the hiring of a lot of that males and and and how that that plays out in the power struggles and they just they have such Grace and I just witness them you know managing it all in a way that’s it really inspiring and stay and then when they’re also going through these psychedelic Journeys I see that they just become more and somebody’s determined and focused and incompetent and and you know they’re also patients over time I see them gain their respective of their colleagues and you take a couple years of storming and and then there’s this is kind of settling that happens and so I I am extremely inspired by the women in blockchain in particular and just wants to be in service to them in any way I can so that they can continue to forge ahead also well on that note I would say we should definitely spend the rest of this our here just having you tell us all about more in detail what it is that you provide and what you’re offering and what your projects are now we got I think this was a good sort of philosophical overview and Andre connection for you and me to to get to get caught up in the space but I really would like to hear more and maybe we can also I guess we can go for as long as you are available at today and in this timeframe to talk about your projects and introduce what you’re doing with your hair with your new your new Ventures and and really make this more of a of a promotional pitch for the remainder promotional pitch for me that’s it really exciting right now is I would love to connect with folks who are working in the VR AI space and are interested in psychedelics not only interested but wanting to create platforms where people can engage in these different fields at virtually and so I know it’s happening I am in San Francisco right now I’m going to meet some some folks in the field tonight and for anyone who’s listening that I would just appreciate a shout out and I’m please connect with me that info info a 10.1 i n n e r o n e because I I really interested in collaborating I would love to work on a team whether it’s already clean a project that’s happening right now or someone wants start one I just have so many ideas about how this could coming to that material in the world and I know a lot of folks in the you know blockchain developers as well as healing practitioners and really wanting to be a bridge between these worlds in and connect folks who can contribute to a project like this so that’s my first pitch in terms of concrete offerings right now I think my two favorite people in the world now that had I met through the blockchain space are this Penelope and America they are the Cyber code Twins and their East LA born and raised Latina women in Tech who have taken the World by storm they’ve got TED Talks they have been winning hackathons and they have I think one of the things they developed together with second virtual reality drug and alcohol rehabilitation immersive experience for people who can’t afford to go to like Celebrity Rehab and that’s one application I don’t know what their personal interest is necessarily in psychedelic Shamanism however they seem to be very open-minded and they are 8 leaving One Like a White House award or something like that they’re just absolutely storming the charts of the women in crypto and I’ll send you a link to one of their TED talks but yeah I know that there it would probably be really good allies in that and not space I just wanted to mention them and then yeah go on please continue practical way the internet is offering three different project and the 1st is out there called dinner one Retreats and so these are live 225 day Retreats held in beautiful places for folks to get back to their vital bodies and be rejuvenated by nature to these are wellness retreats and you know cluding Mayo massage and Sound by sand yoga and meditation life coaching and team-building exercises and then some of the in South America do include Ayahuasca and someone Mexico include psilocybin so those are those Retreats and then there is an online program it’s called zero to one building blocks to Wellness and it is I was here I consider it more of like a integration platform for people so that they can continue harvesting the the fruit of what comes out of these lab Retreats or vice a versa can be a good preparation for Allegra tree and it’s focusing on daily Wellness practices and it’s interesting after how many years in the Psychedelic world I’ve actually gone back to the basics and I feel that you know it’s wonderful to be in a journey and see all kinds of amazing things and we still are in bodies in this lifetime in this earth and that I’m going back to you what we are drinking and eating our sleeping near so many books speakers that focus on this and a night it’s because it’s so essential it’s in so really the program going back to the basics and I just reminding us to be but I guess being mindful of our daily practices so that’s the 0 to 1 and then there’s another piece that is it’s actually new and it’s it’s pretty exciting I’m working with a group in Europe and it’s called Legacy Ventures and we’re going to be offering Retreats that actually is facilitated by many different facilitators and shamans from around the world and and so I’m just one of them one of many and offering Retreats on the difference element so have a 1 focus on fire and having fire ritual what does that mean in our lives and in her a lot of these folks are in our Business Leaders CEOs and and then another Retreat focus on the water and the Earth in the air and then that sacred Center so that’s just starting this year and it’s it’s really exciting for me to be cooperative with other leaders and also I just opening up to the European folk sand and feeling so what is that like and what are they wanting these days and then see the parallels in the differences between the United States and Canada and Mexico so that. In a nutshell is what I’m up to you for this year that is so amazing what we do a push-up real needs everything you’re doing now more than ever and I’m just so thrilled I feel like I’m reading a comic book or something in your just the new Marvel comic book superhero in this of swords and in just adding these new new levels of armor and magic and Empower I can just see I see the the sort of thing I get a better sense of the multi-dimensional warrior Goddess that you have just become an indigenous is so exciting to me to tell me more folks who I don’t have to run into a brick wall trying to explain the the seriousness the timeliness the importance the relevance the you know it’s really really demoralizing and sometimes heartbreaking for me when I get stonewalled it’s not about it’s not about losing out on the opportunity 4000 X Games it’s about losing out on the under this will be some I see it is one of the most rare opportunities in the history of political discourse certainly political economic discourse where the radical libertarian and some people would like to use the word left anymore but definitely from the the libertarian to the anarchist perspective this is one of the first time ever that anything from these camps actually became not just mainstream but was so Superior that it was subversive as a side effect of its superiority to the to the to the disorder let me know Malcolm and Malcolm X I believe said something like if you want it over to the system you have to create a better one system but make the old system obsolete is really what it comes down to so I love it when people talk about the Legacy banking system and the Legacy voting system and it’s like we’re already in this Ann turkel crypto Anarchist future where people from Wall Street are defecting enjoying the Occupy Wall Street movement and bringing their bags of capital with them and you know I love people like I will say the name of Joe Lubin I think he is one of my most beloved and endear real shining examples of coming from a feminine place of problem solving and team building in and you see how his Vibe is really impenetrable to all of the pickings and and browbeating is of the progressive alt masc so cheers to him and into the others and Andria’s and other people who keep out of the drama so yeah before I go too far off into the weeds I want to thank you so much again in to see if you would like to share your your website links and maybe if you would if you have time to just give us a bit of a closing meditation that that brings us all together those who were cryptophobia can those who are crypto douchiest and everything in between let’s let’s all make space for each other around this fire. One i n n e r o n e and email is info at in and either myself or my members will respond as soon as we can definitely look forward to connecting with some of you listening now I know that there’s Brilliance all around us and it’s a matter of coming together and matching are our gifts together okay so in terms of thinking of our energies I invite everyone to receive a deep breath then I’ll land here together and reflecting on all this information that has been shared and inviting you to feel in your body where does this information land for you how are you feeling is there an a butterfly’s is your mind buzzing butterflies in the belly butterflies in the heart what’s with activated for you and breathing in is energy and I asked if you’re willing to commit 21 action step spell connecting with you know how you’re feeling right now are you feeling at your best at your most joyful place in this moment in this conversation and then are you committed to an action step that will actually Manifest this feeling and you are unique Vision in the world is taking a minute be very simple drinking more water and it could be very big like asking the sacred psychedelic that you next connect with is it for you anything in between what’s one action step you’re willing to commit to you within the next seven days that will feed nurture your essential contribution in this world then yourself and externally with in the world mache beautiful Williston I just want to say Dad don’t be a stranger please please keep me posted and in the anything that’s coming up any new developments that you want to share even if it’s just a little Clipper Sound by three segments you always feel always free to a to send me anything or to Anna to take to come back on the show I think you were definitely in good company with the other folks who have to drive me on this journey if I explain this material and yeah it’s it’s it’s a real joy to to have met and you know I’m just thinking back into the feeling back into the origin story of how you and I connected in the place that I was in in the what would I resonated with you and the sort of healing journey in the wounded healer journey and now and it’s like look at us now you know we have survived and we’re driving and that’s great so I acted with and also the listeners and one thing anyone who’s still listening if you’ve made it this far. I guess you were the ones that were meant to share this because I forgot to say that one of the newer Evolutions in terms of offerings for those that are in sit-in microdosing sacred psychedelics or plants and trees in your backyard and I also please reach out to me because there is a a new wave of a Soma Journey ask I’m going to be available for folks in Indy pinning into the microdosing practice that’s become so popular these days so that’s awesome alright well you’ll either thank you so much again this is a beautiful experience as usual and I look forward to the next time and you have a wonderful talk tonight and wonderful rest of your weekend and we’ll be in touch, and click on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological and play single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or emo band at contrabands. 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Metal, Hardcore, Punk, and Bitcoin with Peter McCormack TPP181

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In this episode I’m joined by my new brother in metal, Peter McCormack, host of the What Bitcoin Did podcast. His podcast is one of my top favs in the crypto space and it’s been awesome hearing him drop references to his roots in same underground music scenes that that I’ve grown up in.

He shares about his personal journey of political awakening through the messages in the lyrics of some of his favorite bands and how he got into crypto and podcasting. I was deeply moved by his heart wrenching story of having to be an outlaw to aquire Bitcoin so he could help his ailed mother by purchasing contraband natural herbal medicine.

We discuss the origins of Bitcoin partially being in BitTorrent and how Metallica’s lawsuit against Napster may have been a key catalyst to the evolution of crypto-currency.

We also talk shop about some of our favorite bands, his intentions for wearing a Master of Puppets shirt to the SEC, the future of crypto use-cases for bands and artists, the do-it-yourself spirit, the solidarity among hardcore fans of the 80s and 90s, the Proof of Keys event, and much more.

Please visit his website and podcast at:
https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/

And find him on Twitter at
https://twitter.com/petermccormack

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 181 and I’m being joined by Peter McCormick of the what Bitcoin did podcast and that’s a very interesting set of synchronicities that brought us together in this moment mainly that of all of the cryptocurrency commentators and podcast this and thought leaders that I’ve come across I only very few have really bridge the gap in my life between the politics and the the energy and the Rage of punk rock and hardcore and metal and so is a breath of fresh air when I heard Peter talk about it and start checking out some of his some of his post and what not and and realize that there is definitely some Synergy to talk about the the relevance of these Underground Music cultures and movements in and how how that has informed the politics of technology and how there’s now opportunities for 4 for an interesting interchange of of more of the geek year folks with in the technology development seeing and in some of the more like I’m Nan not as technical folks but people that have same ethics of Liberation and empowerment and a lot of those memes have been have been cultured in in the underground music scene since it’s just a great topic to discuss I’m really excited about it and with that said I’ll just say Peter please tell us, about your personal story how you evolved how you got into metal crypto and everything interesting along it was an easy decision cuz Uncle very few friends left into the Sky music is miso any chance to talk about Punk Ogle meso is it was a pleasure say thank you for that my journey to Ponca I told you about this before was very quick quick migration through a team Soo to discover in the bank by assets so the first metal song I got into Europe The Final Countdown absolutely love that song and my dad is going out and pull me to Europe album back in the day when you had the cassettes your you remember that so I used to listen to the album relentlessly and I was like who these guys with long hair I’ve been discovered Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet dream I had a poster of tempests and a poster of Jon Bon Jovi next to each other both with full makeup long hair and I was like man this stuff is amazing so I had a very short. Of time as a Glam rocker but then my first Iron Maiden song and quickly kind of went through a few of Maiden albums I think it was like Somewhere in Time and Seventh Son of the Seventh Son and then Konig already deep into remember no prayer for the dying love for the album Number 1 in the UK and then from there I started watching hip Angus bull and discuss Guns N Roses Guns N Roses with a massive deal for me cuz that was about the age where I was able still going to come see us and they ended up releasing the usual Lucien albums so I ended up kind to Milton Keynes to wash my best console which was Guns N Roses the cult Soul Asylum in The Blind Melon No Rain by Blind Melon do they were kind of moron the alternative site is incorrectly it wasn’t that dress you everything because the first time I saw her alive so he kind of never forgot that I just kind of rushed and they came out so loving that and then I was watching Headbangers ball on why hasn’t came on and they have this song punishment with a wheel jumping over the Brooklyn Bridge and I was like what the hell is this is kind of metal but this is but they’re not dressed like messages and I wish I’d become a skateboarder in the times I was wearing kind of what would you say like she knows I have to chain belt with the wallet over in like baggy t-shirt so I wasn’t dressing like a melon but listen to metal when does hardcore think I’m in the wrong and it was like these people dressed like me and then listen to a full of mess with this kind of a little bit ratty so it’s a little bit cooler and I was kind of like just discovered like Cypress Hill on onyx and House of Payne all this kind of stuff converged at one time and I felt like you could be a meth lab but be kind of cool to the same time and then yeah then I went deep into hardcore I never left if I tell you what happened with Hulk off of me I was quite interesting was the next song I had a bye bye has over this song Shades of Grey and it opens with there is no black and there is no white and all well that’s only Shades of Grey no racism fuck racism you know and then when she still going for that music and go to these messages about like positivity and you know I know discrimination and I was like this is cool like the other stuff I listen to it like me listen to Guns N Roses song about taking drugs and partying to attach myself to the lyrics but then I was listen to buy a house and it was all kind of like messages and positivity and I can get behind some of the messages are bit over-the-top right but from there then I discovered Earth Crisis and that was like a really big deal for me cuz that was like the next step. I never managed to do the whole stretch think I kind of wanted to but might have a beer but I was told he would then message right like even though it wasn’t straight edge I totally got the message I told you going to see and understand what they would do in you know I’d come down to lunch my first one the first times I was about to go to London and we have this skateboard shop income and Garfunkel Slam City skates I went in there and the dude with the downstairs talk what you got is like if you heard of prices is like even need this in your life and he gave me a couple of The Firestorm EP I like if you know of Crisis like everyone annoys us a song as far as I know you know what it was I had my Discman members that used to jump you have to be really steal to listen to the next in kept jumping so so I was like yeah I was like I was in the hog who I was until the straight-edge I listen to the skate music not so much the punk and hardcore like I was never really Gorilla Biscuits never really cro-mags although it was all kind of more like by Isaac snapcase Integrity of Crisis 25 to Life sick of it like in the next wave who came through and yeah I never stopped listen to Listen to I listen to today by listen to the motive and listen to Summer hits of genres like I’d really like some of that moved at school like I like I love Norma Jean Architects the song I’d like anything which is methyl pump meso hog whole mess will that that’s me and yeah I guess you were so you see the crossover to print 7 and I guess I kind of always been this how do I put it without sound like an idiot like a middle-class and a kiss right like I mean I watch hard they put me into a good school gave me everything I could possibly want you know we didn’t have a lot of luxury the weirdest solid upbringing so I was you know I was going to school while surrounded by Rich Kids and kids you know it’s kind of fell a little bit of felt like I was trying to read Noam Chomsky and get into Noam Chomsky and struggled but I did read a lot of jumping the Injustice is always kind of I don’t know sometimes I’m a Fool maybe I’m I’m a bit too much of a socialist which of the Libertarians and Bitcoin hey but I’ve always felt like this in justices I wish I could do them all to help and I was like to be a little bit Anna kiss the rebel you know if I got my hands tattoos you know if I go to a meeting I’m going in there with my child so I went to the SEC interview has to pay is in my Metallica t-shirt like the most things in my car I want to stick two fingers up the system by Carnival line but then. Came from under privileged background or anything I just think it cost me something inside of me but I definitely see that hole you know the similarities between crypto anarchism in hardcore punk awesome yeah me too but that’s why I feel like it’s a I have the same same feelings and thoughts about the that the tension between libertarianism in an anarcho-capitalist and then the the more socialist more communal kind of collectivist sometimes even I would just I guess it’s probably the influence of Marxism and anarchism in the the politics of Street Punk and even the metal bands no talking about smashing the state in in different ways but it’s it’s interesting at the go and start joining the crypto movement and seeing that there’s this super well-established very successful wing of the event Turkish movement that is actually not eating out of dumpsters and begging and doing the Sid Vicious thing or the self-destruct paternalistic political philosophy of anarchism like to really negative and really hopeless there is a lot of that narrative in in the punk seems that I was involved in and going out for the yeah I get that so how have you ever had so cool I mean I saw the picture of you at the SEC with the master of those least so I don’t like wearing a suit I used to have a company and write a business partner and he was great we work very well together like I was I was always the one with the ideas like a hundred ideas take them back to make some happen anymore but I never wore suits I was always in t-shirt and jeans I was always like look I’m coming as maybe I’m coming Roar and I’m going to give you everything I’ve got right I’m not going to wear a costume I guess that maybe that’s that I can smoke pot and I’m not going to wear a costume like if I’m going to Barclays for meeting I’m done with me I’m going to bring your suits on to see all but as soon as long as I’m getting married because I think I want to look at the car or put a suit on cuz I’m going to someone’s wedding cuz I want to be respectful of that passes wedding cuz I respect them but if you’re asking me for me saying you’re no better than me and I’ll know better than you want to come with me and you guys even like if we do business great but I’m not dressing up what happened with the CC think some people said to me oh was that like we were master puppets is like a hidden message and it was like know who knows no way they could that would be very disrespectful to Hester has to give me the interview know it was I’m not too bad Bobby Axelrod in billions like I don’t know if you remember this monster puppet Steve smells like I like him like he’s a capless he doesn’t give a fuck if you liked his master one that’s me so I’m going to I’m going to wear mine and I’m going to a picture NECC wearing wearing the T-shirt because I think for me it was like it was a good combination of the anarchism of like cryptocurrency Bitcoin alongside the kind of State corporate government regulate regulatory side of the SEC and I just thought it’s like it’s a really nice manager of the two and I just thought I would be big for a really cool picture and thought it was no way to disrespect as the past with some people feel cuz I have nothing but respect for the rice am I really appreciate her work so I think she probably appreciates it too and maybe who knows she could be a headbanger in and just as opposed to buy Metallica t-shirt have to wear a suit without a will kick you out if you turn the fan on you know I just having a fast right now about Megadeth and the politically insightful covers that they had with their I can’t remember if they had a name for their mascot but it was it was kind of like the Eddie of iron maiden’s they had the skeleton with the bolted eyes shut and all in all these different corporate contacts there was one reason wearing a suit peace sells but who’s buying that and images I just feel like this is is it’s almost like an album cover you know that that’s why the you were born but the first one they have a bull myself was the single for Hangar 18 by Megadeth which to me now is a time of it’s still an incredible song the amazing and I still want to go running cuz I’d like to run like my first song I usually put on it’s going to be coming to get me, and it’s usually one two three song it’s either this song by Machine Head the blackening in the reason for that is because I just a minute song I like you know when I’m when you’re running to songs you always conscious of how much time he sounds like for 5 minutes yeah if I listen to the blackening of John 11 minutes when that’s gone and I’m happy right I’m willing to the run but if I need to pick me up these are they going to be Hangar 18 by Megadeth course Pantera song I still listen to Megadeth Hangar 18 when I go running I pulled that song. 2016 is a guy on cassette this is so this this is really getting to the heart of what I want to touch on which is that there is so much frustrated Punk and metal antagony towards the state and the man and the system and it wasn’t it wasn’t so well articulated about the fed and the banks and globalization and all that stuff but it’s I’m I would just be dying now to hear what Dave Mustaine and Jay set field and all of the other thought leaders in metal have to say about this moment of opportunity if they if they could read the Bitcoin whitepaper and you know what is leading up to this interview when I was thinking about just meditating on the value of Howell metal and punk has shaped my attitudes towards the estate and money and all that and I thought about how there would be no big coin if it wasn’t for Metallica going on the Rampage against Napster thus creating BitTorrent isn’t that a trip have you ever thought about that how that that whole kind of klusterfuk happen and that was it, I started Napster Sean and unlock Maps my slot with my best mate and we discovered that I was just like download whatever you want instantly I loaded up on you or you might not remember this the first MP3 player was the Diamond Rio and you would load it up with your songs are you get anything instantly and it was just like this is incredible Metallica try to shove them down at 5 and I was like yeah Metallica lesson and I was always comes and Roses when it comes roses be Metallica I was with Guns N Roses I’m at Metallica Guns and Roses were a bit more treble I don’t know why but I always remember when the MTV Awards are on metallic are in the crowd of showing finding comes out like after he stay suit him he comes out and I was like yeah sure that’s going well played the great thing about Metallica suing Napster is is the whole centralized V decentralized and centralized right you could sue it to close it down and then you go to all these things like this hard you can close down batard to this day you can go on any number of mirrored Pirate Bay’s and use your eye like a VPN and just access to download stuff for free you can still do it because it’s orange is decent why won’t see centralized it was not what I know is like Metallica exposed to flu in the Napster motor which United Torrance have this is exploited By The Crate so make sure the kids to bed write this is so fascinating and you wouldn’t except for In This Moment of real metal Geeks would you actually I mean it wasn’t in the Satoshi white paper and he’s like thanks to Metallica for pushing the technology forward towards peer-to-peer distributed networks for you could free pizza the systems that are decentralized in Camp and have their head list they can’t they can’t be arrested they can’t be brought down because you would have to take down the internet and you had to take down everybody participating internet and so yeah it’s quite a fascinating history with just that moment that says neglected invite a lot of people to know if you saw a point completely off topic but just while we hit it cuz it’s just like that to me like a man oh yeah right did you ever read the inlay card to Countdown to Extinction Ikea it’s not it’s not too coming to me right now off to bed now you know what I want to see cop kicked out of Metallica you know he just he lost Willy Wonka golden ticket right now and then he sees Metallica just go from strength-to-strength like they release ride the line with him to the mall and then they were days Ride the Lightning but then they were these pop hits and then they release Injustice for on the black guy I need just become huge right all right. But he wanted that was number one album in a to validate himself that like Megadeth Countdown to Extinction because that we how was nowhere came what’s his name Ricky whatever I lived Livin the Vida Loca what does it say Ricky Ricky Martin you know the Latina Danza tell me the Vida Loca you know the song Outside Inside Out released in the same week of Megadeth by Puritans like it may be that the one we got it they would have the us out for number one and they didn’t answer that day I know it cuz I know you always feel sorry for him because he he like he was in Metallica he lost the golden ticket to the Chocolate Factory and he did it again he did start another band who had epic amounts of success and I just kind of always felt sorry for that mistake sorry I taking a completely off topic that a lot of people that know that pop maker test and I think I think they should actually know I’m all into this man where this is all this is all point because the reason I was thinking about that reference to the history of Napster and in Metallica is that at that beautiful documentary some kind of monster they go into all this stuff and they showed the moment where Dave Mustaine I believe it was Lars Ulrich and Dave Mustaine are hanging out and processing with a therapist the the agony that he fell out but that’s how these things evolve a tub and of all that mean y’all say I’ve been in bands for most of my life and I have experienced all these different dimensions of you know you do what you got to do when you got to do it and yeah it’s it’s it’s it’s a trip if we can move into some of the this is what I find so fascinating is the the way that punk and metal we could talk about the the economic theories that are that have been I mean very effectively pumped out to the masses with with all of these like the way that if you’re if you’re into Punk and metal and you see a business suit you see that that as a representative of the state of capitalism of everything that you’re supposed to be smashing into Extinction and from this so many different bands that have anthems about about politics and economics in various forms of ecological social environmental rights environmental justice and less definite it’s just a for me it was always a a disempowering kind of narrative that you know will never succeed Will Never Be A revolution is kind of a fantasy and will always just be disgruntled about being even if we’re not impoverished we’re still sort of like trapped within this Illuminati thing and it’s just been raised and rebellion and but but not very sophisticated and there was nobody in the punk and metal scene that would have said to me like yeah you should have to go study economics you should go study technology and computer science and and you will be able to liberate yourself with math and with cryptography and know that there that just reminded me of a band as well that I didn’t even mention in the list of company about the Gulf Coast Punk and hardcore a mess with people I always explain one bad news I think probably the most important punk bands of the hotel right always always get people to scream a special proper punks rice Punk is Rage Against the Machine I know I’m always liked was no no then they just an empty V band and I’m like know what they did is they bridge messel and no mess they made Maxwell open to everybody else and they came with such a powerful strong message and in some ways like through everything I’ve listened to like my entire history music there is one album that that has been a constant staple and that’s been rage against machines rage against machine every single song is good which is very very rare these days you know I struggle with his name five albums that every single song is good but on the album every single song is good on this time is a test of time they could go on stage now play the whole album now and it would sound like who is known for their instruments no one else has done and they will come in with a message and they will go and pick us everyone they shut down Wall Street I mean that’s not a punk bands like yeah but you have to know exactly where his roots right he was an inside out across the punk band but he did rage against machine is a benefit from it what he has a punk Oracle background like he was in that scene rage against machine is a pom pom to me I tend to agree with you yeah actually I I was blessed to be at the the DNC protests where they were they were instructed by the lapd’s that if they did anything to incite a riot they will be culpable I didn’t see that that may have been but this was La around 2001 I believe in and it was so yeah it was beautiful man people took to the streets it was like this massive breach of thousands and thousands of people right in the heart of downtown LA and just flanks of Riot cops and just say I’m here for you in and out to be in suits chlorella is placing my favorite place in the world Twitter is in Venice somebody apartment Adventist you know he’s one of these weird places right that most people when they get it cuz they get there they go to Hollywood and that life is that it and then they don’t know what to do with themselves cuz it’s not together you can walk from Grand Central to Central Park and you go to La you have to live if a live that and you have to go to Venice and Santa Monica and downtown and discover these little balls outside restaurants will go to Calabasas will go for a hike you have to be there for a while to understand what I asked about and I think once you’ve list that you got a few Consciousness as a tourist we get it almost everyone I know it said that it was a disappointment pause a good point yeah it’s it’s more about it’s it’s very laterally spread out because there is the space and it’s not just as some islands you know what people on the East Coast so used to weigh more vertical and stacked kind of ant farm kind of living and I love these goes to you know I’ve been there number times mostly touring with bands and experiencing that that sector but I agree that the la la the geography of the LA culture it’s it’s you got to you got to spend time getting yourself around in and digging event the rage against machine man love that band I agree and I think they’re under there was a time I think the topic of you know a lot of people in the deepest underground scenes are just very hostile towards success and that’s another sort of shoot yourself in the foot problem you know there was a documentary called punk attitude and I think it was it was expressed at some point in their that’s like punk rock seems to have a sort of debilitating resistance to success and so people just want to kill themselves and drown themselves in the bottle and and drugs because is the success kind of distorts their sense of being the underdog and there’s no confidence there and if the other genres hip hop never had a problem scaling up to huge success and even metal bands were far less shy about monetary success but it’s so I’m wondering for you as we could go into the have you found a lot of other people that give you the sort of wink and Nod about the more subversive more underground kind of Ethics that come from the music scenes in finding that in in the world or is it just a completely different approach to different Pathway to to the politics of Anarchy plus I thinking crypto people finding different ways and their pills of a different ways at different times like last time I discovered that it’s in the stool I discovered in 2013 as a way of buying things online we need to go into details of that and then kind of forgot about it and then I got back into it. We are all Caillou really going to bitcoin and my mom is my mom is dying from cancer and cannabis oil treatment with a coin and yes it’s illegal but when your mom’s doing you don’t really care about to go with you just want to get her treatment and the ability to buy that treatment for a nobody can stop me and was amazing and with that I was kind of like okay I got this now this is kind of a big deal but the first 6 months to a year in crypto is Radio just making money I was just making really good money on it anyone I think most people can’t I wanna get lost in in Mami at times like I did all this money and I was traveling to while I am back and just live in this great life but in doing my podcast you know I’ve had some massage would love more more about what’s going on in the wall to buy Bitcoins rather than her Nana life suddenly become a little bit more like a k e Anika side to this is more like the the free. I’d rather say cuz sometimes comes this negative connotation you know it like it’s the G8 a meeting that’s going to be a smashing the place outright I just think the freedom and liberty that comes with some of my Bitcoin is truly incredible but what I have noticed is the northern the weight comes from when somebody like I I drop little Slayer of Matlock on every now and again they’ll be someone like you like a cool woman in me and him have become good buddies like online. He’s going to marry her life that we talkin bout we always like that and I think there’s that kind of you know someone if you are like friends with him he’s about your age like 40 years and they know Pantera and Faith No More and they weren’t Alice in Chains with rage against Machine music from the early nineties you know you had a similar kind of life of a life that shaped you write the way I see it is from about 1340 when you start to get a bit of freedom for your parents up until kind of like early twenties where I used to have to think about become responsible I think that. That’s how you know that person I think they come to a concert by the consequence of the parents probably doesn’t know they come to make you doubt they’ve gotten out of bed when they’ve been like 15 at the back of a Pantera gay Gwar Koenigsegg and they staged dog and then it going to school with that like Marilyn Manson patch on that back and some on that bag or something that’s going to be something like dick in schools turn around to take cuz I like I got my music constantly kind of they just kind of got a kid in a mortgage and over that kind of stand the stuff that you end up getting when you get older but you know you know you were several of us you know you’re going to go another bairn you can have a simple conversation you probably kind of similar friends and syphilis views on life I kind of like that so I guess that’s why I kind of trying to find that music yes, those two are we also it is my friend used to call it the international Punk not it’s just that you see somebody that has that some emblem of identification with the desota Underground Music scenes in the culture gigs and mosh pits and what not and there is an immediate solidarity and hours appreciate that and will always add to the Xfinity I have four people you know to know ya you’ve you’ve been raging in the pit so I’ve been I’ve been off since I put out that big toy story about losing all the money right I’ve been off like 15 times to come and put gas and I’ll say yes to anyone anyone I’ll make an hour and a half because when I lost my podcast I’ve relied on the same night and even took today I would lie on the same people giving up that time and space museum you want to come up with that guy is when you came out you said I’d like the pumpkin the hardcore want to talk about that with you is like right in this is the one I want to do this guy gets there I want to go in there I want to talk about owning somebody’s can I listen to it because the only time I really like I’m in this music is when I go for a run on down the gym and I put it on when I put on my headphones and I listen to like most of the time I don’t get a chance to talk about apart from my daughter and she’s like some of it is like a Hatebreed someone she really likes unless there’s like a song by like Iron Maiden she likes what she likes that you are so right but most of the time so yeah I ceased when you came and you said you want to do is like yeah I’m in I’m in Manistee this yeah well I would say that it’s interesting that it seems I know there’s the Tatiana moroz I believe is one of the early crypto music artists who did some some form of tokenization of her her stuff and then I know who Joe music is the ethereum blockchain based project to disintermediate the intellectual property Monopoly that is embedded in the music industry and what not have you come across any any folks in in whatever genre music but you know be great Punk and metal that seems like we’re the punk and metal artists are behind the curve when it comes to the crypto blockchain next generation of even the music industry so have you have you pondered that or thought about that or kind of made any connections there I just think it’s still so early Saturday days and I guess I guess you need exposure to a maybe they haven’t discovered there or I don’t see it takes a long time to read together like some really really good and I’m really coming I’m coming up now ready to two years and it was kind of going to buy the stuff in my mom like I know as there’s so much I don’t know but I know a lot more than I did something is not to click now starting to get it I think we way too early even for the Amicus Sue to really understand what I’ve seen a few rappers talk about it because I guess is it’s about making money in wrappers or what about making Benjamin but I don’t think the crossover has come yet because I don’t see nothing but still too early I still something that’s enough of people do to grab the crap yet but I think it will come yeah I agree I’ve noticed that I kind of had goes back to that shyness that you were just a bit attractive but yeah the early adopters the hip-hop artists were not asleep at the wheel with this stuff and want you know some of them started getting into Bitcoin even before it was that big of a thing and now they’ve got real gains to to play with so that’s that’s a very very interesting and and also I mean it is something is so deeply tickled inside of me when I hear government Regulators talk about cypherpunk and crypto energy and how they have to know retool themselves to catch up with these technological revolutions that are rooted in all of these extremely radical and an anti authoritarian Tendencies and I just think this is so yeah you being at the the SECU the Securities and Exchange Commission to have a conversation about really you know I’ll put it in my in my words how the powers-that-be are going to have to adapt to this math math based Anarchist cryptographic Revolution there this is like the first time in hundreds if not thousands of years that there has been a a power a rebalancing and a check and balancing of the powers of these these really in trench systems so and I thank you for being a part of that that shifting and balancing of of powers now was a pleasure to be part of it I mean it was a real kind of course I want to want and like a lot of really bad has happened in The Last 5 Years. 3 minutes and I was not a small detail guy said if I store Apple’s trajectory and I’m making good money but in some ways kind of lost my way as well and I was doing mine are not as kind of building an agency and I wanted to screw with the big agencies and take them home by Jim is a cruise companies you know I would like just companies that dunk at my job is helping us help get them selfie with shit they don’t need and you know I kind of I don’t know if it was like you would probably say cuz you’re a little bit more grounded the band in the spiritual side you’ll probably say it’s all this was going to happen for a reason you know that this is you a Johnny blah blah blah blah you know whether it was just a bunch of coincidences but I lost everything in my life my mom I lost my family to my divorce I lost my company of my mental health everything went over the space so you know three three years I mean I’m a dumb from getting married I just got married I love you to family beautiful wife who I have toward the successful company money in the bank at a Porsche home at the house. Holidays like I had everything and it went and then I hit rock bottom and I remember the Rock Bottom whatever and most of the substance abuse or the results of substance abuse where I would be your mom was when was in my house for the first time I was I was doing drugs not to get high but to get back to parity like I feel so rough. I would do and then feel like normal Robin doing it to be high and I was like I remember that night thinking you know I would be going in and out of the shower panicking and just it was awful and I was like okay this is this is bad right you’re a very bad place there’s another time when I had a panic attack on the Underground Chief station and I would have off the train in the paramedics came and they stripped myself to do an ECG on the rush hour by people under pause which was tied to the Grave Digger every buildings and I was like how do I do this again like a Comstock company going to 10 of the energy account commute to London anymore cuz of the Times by Charles is Bitcoin thing happened because my mom died which is awful questions and then Sunday I find myself lying out to Washington to go to the SEC to interview has to pass I’m like how the fuck is this happen and then yeah I remember leaving that interview and I’m going back to my Abby and being like having a cigarette and sitting on the wall lights to be so we’d times like these things that happen you just yeah it’s just very strange I do not even know if you want to give you that I just kind of went a little story please and I actually that that’s what endears you to me a lot is that the personal aspect and how you really the way you got into Bitcoin as well and how it’s just it’s always just a testimony to how empowering and liberating the technology is and yeah I really appreciate how much effort you put into Earp your project the web Bitcoin the what Bitcoin did podcast can you talk about just the evolution of the podcast and how you actually seems like you have a very meteoric rise and and honestly of all of the crypto Bitcoin blockchain media that I consume it really stands out the work that you’re doing the level list of research that you’ve done in the equality of the guests and you’re the way that you’ve gone after in-person meetings and all that stuff is just seems like a a real higher level of quality put into the project I’m wondering cuz you have like a a moment of insight where you said you know I’m going to bring value to the community by doing a podcast since you not like a coder per say or what was that story about this is my real big plan like the best of the podcast Reedy was just part of a series of events you know I discovered Bitcoin and crypto bull everything all these different shape coins made loads of money than my friends wanted to get into it that’s why you like crazy male robin to tell him to meet you in the picture day which was like an introduction to the original one I sent out to everyone must excuse me and said that the people and then people like what should we buy what should we buy and so did a Facebook group for my friends and you have a hundred people joined and I would just say that to this is what I’m reading on this one thing going to buy an avatar for my chores he said to me yeah right so he understands Google you should think about doing a Blog we thought that we just going to show somebody is Bound for most of the time trying to come up with the name he was like we were just as a joke like we have his wife entitled the king of Bedford which is so embarrassing but like it needed became that name thank God it didn’t but we expect snow must be the king of it but we just so I know it’s the website but I would write about it and I love the Old Post have been deleted now cuz I don’t even agree with him but I was just writing to understand and then you know I I I was like why is he not actually funny funny thing I didn’t tell you I don’t like the first issue front cover was a band hookah skunk anansie who were playing in Bedford so I got to click on that interview and Xena Me podcast consoles are free again the CDs afraid that your problem is it’s getting your first interview how does a 14 year old girl but we have this little which is kind of a cold then you you you know what bands are on like like secret to little ask was and we had a bank with skunk anansie play so I knew the guy who was the event is he on the sky so I went down to her when I was like yeah can you let me do an interview. I did that the distance CD reviews and released with us tissue but that issue I said Run for the rental companies move to do the store at 2 and I want to show off today releases on blind because I was the most unimportant when they put me in for us so I liked it a really crappy time I interviewed Vinnie Paul from Pantera and I interviewed the down set hike all these bands at the gate with the one of those Old Dixie Forest River the dictaphone World on that go to my friend Tom’s dad’s estate agents would like to print out copies giveaway gig 6s when I used to get like these packs of CDs every week with 5 10 15 CDs I can send you a photo of any CD’s still there but I finish school with uni I wanted to stop fencing again online didn’t have the money to do it so my off my first year you need I stay behind I used to walk who died in the carpentry shop and then come back to me even though man takes them out so I learn how to build websites and then I started getting off the money by my landlord off me to go to website. Double cut your business he paid me $450 mind I was in I was working in the carpentry supplies full-time an hour so I was like okay this is cool that’s like sound like a hundred hours working and I didn’t like a day and then this recruiting company called Springfield can you build a website and I just found out that message a fine I was like this is insane this is the company of London countries during the first. Come by and they were like can you come here and can you like help us build this. Come we got whatever Millie’s investment how about ya and I like with the NFL I’m like okay I can take that severe mind I was like NM property other than what’s 40 * 160 week like what you need a website and then agency and then this time my friends had like your website I think you said I had a meteoric rise like I think one of the things that’s what well for me is all this background in like the first thing I knew I had to get my interviews right and I know interviews me to interview so I got in touch with Jameson lopp very early on this is going to come out to North Carolina do with you and by the way I’ve never shot a gun and I want you to take me to shoot a gun an interview as a vegetarian at the time you took me to a barbecue place and I didn’t have the heart to tell him so I ended up eating barbecue and then you show me to the gun range of a shotgun and I’m from the lucky that I think the reason the podcast some quiet so I can write a good set of gas and they’ve introduced me to the next guest but it will save my background in like Cabanas so I got a lot of work when I chew your show all those banners could come see my interviews. I genuinely find the stuff difficult to understand like genuinely I’m like I’ll get it I don’t understand that I get out I think that’s made out with the podcast is that you know I’ve asked questions other people want a while she’s probably sounds quite humbling because it is and then I had that kind of background of my family have known how to get like the important ingredient to get gas and then my back hurting boxing so I guess a whole bunch of great something I guess I guess my punk ass is just a combination of my background it doing the fans and boxing and digital marketing and just cut out who I am as a person that’s so cool and that. Just sit just bringing back this Cascade of memories of what it was like with black and white Xerox machines and like you said finding a hookup for a copy Earth if you could get a hookup to copy yours and you were still golden back in the 80s 90s you know when that and and I have a similar experience and it just it what Rings true for me is just that the spirit of do-it-yourself that’s what is unifying the punks and the meddlers in the hardcore and the cryptographers an open-source movement in all of the crypto Anarchy a sense of people say crip the Savages and it says that the unifying concept is is just being a power to go out and do it yourself and not you know not wait for permission not wait for Wayfair Venture funding and you can see that there are more resilient projects in the crypto space or the ones that that weren’t really over-leveraged in pandering to Ico money in the ones that are actually out there and I’m not to be judgmental or critical but but we but I like the way people say Bitcoin was in the accurate conception and it’s a headless Hydra that can just go and take over so many sectors of planet and now I have that central point of failure and just touches I guess I guess some people make some accusations of me sometimes it’s like you just become a Bitcoin Maxima so you just hang around with Bitcoin maximalism around 1:59 interviews now and if I’m a 3-day prep by prep for an interview as everything else I read I’m saying it like my opinion where I go to that is the conclusion for 59 interviews all the crap all the readings he hasn’t asked if I sound like a maximalist is because that’s what makes sense to me that’s where I’m on kind of that right now now I’m not a full Maximus but I’m not far off right and I just the thing about my podcast is quiet like anyone has been there for me stopped quite transparent me followed my journey of kind of what I learned and understood but I think what’s come out of that is like you’re bored and sorry for swearing but it’s so important. He Ledger or some like I don’t know just like some of this absolute nonsense out there if anything like let’s go to war because yeah where at where am I in time where are the People by removing the time now where we are all surveilled all day everyday online offline cameras like everything we do you know what Financial transactions where I would go out of the country problems everyone fighting with each other and then we could Bitcoin controls right nobody can really control decentralized the office I can do way of considering money I’m at the office where breaking the rules with math in the pool right now that I want to put most of my energy into laugh and I want to get away from all the noise will the distractions has stopped. Help. My stuff back when becoming what it can be because we might never get a chance like if you thought this out we might never get a chance like this again and I think that’s super important yeah I hear you there it’s just every day every day that goes by what you’re saying comes more becomes more clear and goes warm to focus in weather people are speculating on going to the moon and quick riches and what not or if it’s really deeper into the the ethos of it and the and the ethics of it I’m tight end to be always say the was if this is actually a question I’ve had for you since I’ve listened to your podcast I think I got I got in I’ve been a religious fanatic of your podcast going back to several months when you had an interview with Lynn Albrecht brazo bricks mother the political prisoner from the Silk Road and and have been following you since then and something that that I am interested in your your thoughts on too kind of elaborate is that I think you’ve asked a couple people here and there but you said something to the effect of do you have this concerned that the the new stablecoin projects are in a way attack and attack on bitcoin could you could you explain a little bit more cuz I’m I’m I’m considering the value of these newer stablecoins and it’s certainly a it’s a it’s a way more digestible narrative for onboarding new people into the power of crypto as far as bypassing the choke points of banks in and payment processors that don’t allow you to say certain things are not allowed in their terms of service but you can use any crypto to transact value online but now I’m leaning towards the stable coins at least as a crutch until Bitcoin kind of stabilize is overtime but but I’ll be interested yet to hear you kind of you can go off about why why you feel like people should be second-guessing this obviously the centralized ones but just in general that attack stablecoin doesn’t attack on bitcoin what does that mean for you fuzzy thank you for listening to do with little braids pink Floyds off me my favorite to you and I don’t see what that first one was my favorite by Fall because we didn’t really talk about Bitcoin and it’s very awesome story how do I create a political prisoner break his now friend of mine she you know we actually text each other today we talk regularly in Vegas just like Alexa from Ross thank me for supporting them and that’s a huge important so using voice because it’s me the Revolutionary that’s so much misinformation about him he should be in prison if you believe in the laws of the land but no way should he spend the rest of his life in prison I hear conversation about the right to choose and he he is a reason I was able to buy a treatment for my mother when she was time for cancer and I will stand up in front of anyone to say to them in my shoes if you stood there with your mother she’s never cancel it you two you two will probably break the rules to the kind of treatment to relieve the suffering and I believe that is so important I thank you for listening to that stable coins haha you know what it’s an interesting one from loving to hating I guess the the thing is for stable coins is in a pool business wild innocent X functional while they have a use case they have a use case they are easy on faucets transactions that money around the world and they would you spell identity. they do take away from Bitcoin and Lotus table coins could take away from Vic Mensa free sample Facebook account I want to properly stablecoin right people that’s taking people who could be buying Bitcoin away maybe they’ll introduce people to pick, but I believe Bitcoin and hard money and soft money so important that yes I see you. But I don’t ever want them to be a priority of a Bitcoin because the thing about stablecoins his Tales from the Crypt really realize that I am I asking the same it’ll be all right so they could have a black hole in sweater Black Swan events in the US that will lead to nest devaluation of u.s. dollar to the same I’m not conversant Maximus run like everything about for Bitcoins to wash it again the used case. We’re going to look if if there is like a semi pseudo decentralized stablecoin was a short-term Solutions $2 Bahrain in FL station with somebody wouldn’t risk Bitcoin yet use a stablecoin to give himself a little bit more freedom to transact rifle do business I get it at the same time I think we need to constantly educate people Bitcoin and encourage big one and it you know another one of my Eureka my mother is coming that I’m forgetting price very very rarely check price I’ve lost so much Bitcoin through bad trading and Mining stupid decisions like I lost like 1897 coin accumulate Bitcoin like that one pic when he was one Bitcoin thing is not about the money tree Valley cuz it changes is that what how much Bitcoin account now all I want to do is make sure the end of next year I’ll have more that kind of the way I will do that is by no selling not trading not using but doing what that creates money where I can buy a new Bitcoin and that’s my goal is to say I could make the pug cost usually successful in this is fat 2,000 lb of the end of each month maybe I’ll buy two thousand kind of Bitcoin the end of each month and I’m just going to keep accumulating on this kind of 10-year project I would like to be in a position where I got very significant Bitcoin holding and that’s amazing it’s usually boarded because we got to think about time preference is the journey for Bitcoin to take over and have a big one edition top and isn’t going to be a slow and steady and without want to send it to you so yes table that use case but yeah I agree with you yeah it’s kind of a temporary thing and it really there is no such thing as stable as sort of maybe less volatile on a certain time frame but it’s very it’s funny because the USD coins if the USB goes down and they have to follow along with it then it won’t be a stable going you know Andreas Antonopoulos I loved one of these his jeans you know is is he’s like a comedian and a genius and a you know he’s just such a hero to so many people and the things he said yeah it’s it’s volatile Munich of the Bitcoins volatile but also fiat currency the real Balto do you want to be on an upward trend of volatility or a downward trend of all tail because there’s only one way that the CPI currencies can really go so yeah it’s all semantics right really with you to the health how far you zoom in or zoom out of any chart yeah I mean it’s just like a say to me Bitcoin so important and I always like how how back to you when interviewed Caden long as he said prices the least interesting fact of a Bitcoin for me and I try and think like that you know how I kind of got lost in and get rich off crypto saying and now I’d like over the next year slow down I sure have a stable solid income that comes me a cup of my children, my life and my life stuff and then from there Play movie Gone and focus on Pitkin and just forget about price focus on the growth of the technology that use case and maybe with my book called educating people but get away from this kind of get rich from Bitcoin thing cuz that’s that’s not the right thing yeah I agree I have used used it for very practical purposes that exemplify the use case of remittances exemplified yusuke Civ V stunts answerable value transfer and you know for those who can afford to hot oil and a half Ford to hold it and speculate and save than you know that’s more power to the Toddlers and for people who just need to use it for you know I was having a conversation with with a friend recently where it’s like no matter what no matter what the volatility is that’s going to be all based on the the more advanced Traders and speculators and Market players and I’ll go Bots and all that stuff but as far as they your grandma or someone who is sending money to family members in a country that they are you know from but they’re not working in and they’re just doing the ribbons is as long as this this bulletproof kind of armored car that can travel from me from your location with your value across the internet to someone else you want to cash it out immediately and you know it might be a slippage of a couple fraction to percent given the time it takes for you know the six confirmations or whatever on the network know it’s still is always going to be stable enough for those those types of transactions and for the people that can afford to hang on to it and play that game and take losses and gains and paper and strong at the weekends well that’s what wall Street’s been doing this whole time anyway so and you know it’s just kind of a we trying to make the banking system more efficient are we trying to change the way money it’s not about the money value was created in generated who has influence over money cuz we know the powers-that-be will be abused that the fuse that position the money if you know they’ll print to have them when needed they will they will still text with inflation they will spend money Wars a year they will do countless Anna Faris things with money and things up the most people watch discuss did that so do we want to create a more efficient Financial system is much more important goal in life yeah I totally agree I’m it’s been a steep learning curve to even figure out how to get on coinbase Pro or any of the other exchanges and actually buy all coins and it says I see how it’s just the it’s buried there is a I guess a dark side to all of that speculating and trading an Arbitrage and there’s somebody losing anytime you win in that game kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth and in my B I guess I’ll be happy for a time when when the Bitcoin market capitalization is as dispersed geographically and economically as widely as possible and people do by their groceries do their laundry pay their rent you know by their Christmas gifts whatever it is in Holdings of Bitcoin in once that I was thinking of going back to punk and metal you know they made image it comes to me cuz I’m a drummer as I’m like well there will be a point when the when the Bitcoin that is produced that has been has been produced will be distributed enough amongst the masses of the world that’ll be like a snare drum and he’s just like tightening each pig on a snare drum until you have that more stable kind of bottom or at least a stable way more stable chart and then that will give people the confidence to transact in it and it won’t be so so lustfully extremely kind of addictive like crack cocaine to try to chase this Moon pumps and all that I think it’s going to happen it will just take it will take time for sure if you feel like that this kind of just like I just hang in there cuz it’s going to get away will like in other markets that have been volatile it will find a sweet spot over time I just don’t see how it’s going to die and just gone like looking to history of Bitcoin like go back look up look what’s happened over 10 years it’s gone from strength to strength and power a bad Marcus but every time is stronger bigger I just don’t see how it can be maybe he can but I just don’t say I just think it’s about patience until I’m now I trace man says it’s a 50 to 60 year project pride and those people are now wearing off the 1-year like we have a customer and a half thousand dollars right I’m people worried I mean come on let’s get in the real world right because I’m going to buy everything I can and other people but it went to Adelaide by order that so like he’s not going to die in a while now ETFs Ice come in future custody solutions for institutions biwi. Knowledge lightning that was coming it’s just growing is getting stronger and it’s getting harder it’s not going anywhere or does happen if people with people different time preferences who buy and sell at the wrong time of losing money but you know it’s just a game a patient’s I’m very very bullish on the future of Bitcoin write on me to likewise yeah it’s like the price drops it to me it’s a gift from the gods how could they be so merciful to let me get back on the train you know about buying the ditch dollar cost averaging and trying not to lose my mind staring at the shop and just yeah I like you like you said to me in the strategy don’t fucking quit your day job you know just put in a small amount as you generate real value in produce real value in the world and then and then just have this this hedge against the collapse of the Fiat system in and you’ll be blessed like the other people I love Trace mirrors work and I love that he’s doing the proof of keys thing I’m going to participate can you just shut that out too so we can promote that anybody who’s into crypto or crypto curious what is a spread that Meme of the the proof of Keys January 3rd Festival yes I trace my ass he’s running his campaign proof of keys like every year trying to decide which was is none of us three of the protocol on the 10th anniversary of the Bitcoin protocol launch in anyone’s remind people that you know if you don’t know your private Keys you don’t know your Bitcoin you have an IOU for a Bitcoin or you have a credit me for Bitcoin mining exchange generosity want everyone to go on to the exchanges take the Bitcoin off put it on that Hardware wallet on the Cold Water Solutions in the private so many people over the last year or so I guess you don’t even know what happened with the amount call soup one pot amount cuz he didn’t lose that money the Bitcoin you’ve got to be so sober and you could I owe you private Keys you know your Bitcoin so January 3rd I need to check it out website proof of keys., which you which everyone needs to go to check out but that’s so important you know I wanted to become part of it very important campaign Play Trace might recommend F-16 it out also will thank you for that and yeah one respect your time if you got to get going here so any last words you want to share and websites and your elbows and we’ll get people connected to all the greats I want to say this is my favorite over into your dumb because I didn’t know what he was looking at small there’s a very small people out there but when anyone wants to talk to me I’m about to do that but I’ve never enjoyed it interview so much cuz you come in my favorite subject which is evil that you ever want me to come and get on to the Future just let me know I’d be more than a pleasure if you want to check out my work on Google podcast SoundCloud on Spotify on Android 51 episodes in how to help people if you want to find them switch my test was at peace McCormack what DMVs are open to go to reach out yeah pretty much required to anyone here for anyone and I’m grateful to anyone he checks out all right. 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Open Source Spirituality and the Tantra of Crypto with Vin Armani TPP180

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In this episode I’m joined again by Vin Armani for a sort of time-capsule of contemplative discourse on open source spirituality and the tantra of crypto.

About Vin:
Vin Armani is a philosopher, serial tech entrepreneur, and CryptoSavage. He is the host of The Vin Armani Show on Activist Post. In addition to being an author and speaker, he has made his living as a television star, film producer, high-end male escort, software developer, art gallerist, pirate radio station operator, DJ, music producer, and motorcycle courier. He studied Philosophy at Howard University.

Please visit:
http://vinarmani.com/
https://cointext.io/en/
https://countermarkets.com/

We discuss:

  • the fundamental value and use case of Bitcoin
  • why volatility and speculation are natural and inherent features of the digital currency game theory
  • how the best and worst archetypes of heroes and villains and the fine line between them get revealed in the unfolding of the dynamics of crypto markets, scammers, hustlers, etc.
  • the greening of bitcoin mining operations
  • the localized crypto-economics of New Hampshire
  • efficiency and innovation in the evolution of technology
  • unimaginable innovations on the horizon in the developing world
  • glory and fate of malicious and poorly thought out initial coin offering projects
  • insights from successes in the entertainment industry
  • the energy that drives tech innovations, that drove Satoshi
  • bitcoin as an emergent property of a deeper energy
  • how people get shaken out by bubbles and crashes
  • thinking of losses as an admission fee to get on the ride
  • mapping the shifting financial times on to the cycles of change in Vedic cosmology
  • Alex Winter’s documentary on blockchain: The Trust Machine
  • How we’re lucky to have won first wave of Crypto Wars
  • Darth Vader as the ego taking full possession and the dialectics of good and evil
  • holding on to fantasy narratives while crypto is an imaginary good
  • watching a play on stage, studying the archetypes
  • not everybody knows there’s in a play, but are drawn to be a character in it
  • staying awake, self examination, and choosing which character to take on
  • Why you have to have an Allan Watts’ concept of the “necessary villain” to have an epic narrative
  • Craig Wright as Darth Vader, a one in a million character
  • Anyone can be involved in this global technological hero’s journey
  • Not succumbing to the seduction of hatred
  • The macho posturing within bitcoin forks
  • Why Roger Ver deserves appreciation
  • The folly of fighting over the name of the real bitcoin
  • Surrendering to the feminine evolving nature of bitcoin
  • Osho’s thoughts on letting go of the pressure to be consistent with your past thoughts, opinions, and conclusions
  • Star Wars as a modern tantric scripture
  • Ancient tantra as an open source spiritual technology movement resisting closed-source patriarchy priest craft orthodoxy
  • bitcoin as the immaculate inception
  • the perils of bitcoin maximalism
  • the business development ethics of cointext.io
  • the SEC and the nanny state vs financial sovereignty
  • intelligent investment 101
  • lottery and casinos as legal unsophisticated investment schemes
  • the merits of crypto crowd source funding via ICOs in micro loans in developing nations
  • how few ICO projects were serious about building projects
  • due diligence and educated investing happening through market forces without the influence of the state
  • how k-12 financial education would put the whole government out of business
  • fear is the path to the dark side
  • The ERC20 Ethereum token protocol and it’s founders reflections and projections for a better version
  • Craig Wright becoming the toadie of the bully state with threats of litigation
  • How healthier bitcoin forks should take on their own branding and avoid fundamentalism
  • technological darwinism and the need to audit the code that rules your life
  • cultural advantages that ripple through generations, communities that burned their trash during the black plague
  • the economics of market niches and how their ramifications
  • cyberpunk prophecies of the multicultural techno-futuristic landscape that we’re in now
  • hardening yourself against cyber fascism with the Interplanetary file system
  • lessons from Jameson Lopp getting “Swatted”
  • putting together an IPFS node with an sd card, raspberry pi, ipfs node, linux
  • Juan Bennett and the forthcoming utility of FileCoin, as opposed to proof of work, it’s proof of storage similar to proof of stake, staking bandwidth and storage
  • the power of storing and serving files as hashes

Operational Security in the Age of Grand Theft Crypto with Vin Armani TPP170

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In this episode I’m joined again by the illustrious Vin Armani for an instructive session on operational security for cryptocurrency users. We outline and cover the basics and address advanced concepts in a down to earth and accessible way. There are gems of wisdom that will educate and empower beginners and advanced users alike.

Please visit Vin’s website at http://vinarmani.com/

About Vin:
Vin Armani is a philosopher, serial tech entrepreneur, and CryptoSavage. He is the host of The Vin Armani Show on Activist Post. In addition to being an author and speaker, he has made his living as a television star, film producer, high-end male escort, software developer, art gallerist, pirate radio station operator, DJ, music producer, and motorcycle courier. He studied Philosophy at Howard University.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin I love your beloved’s welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 170 I am here again with vin Armani and we’re going to get very practical we’ve done a lot of really deep in esoteric podcast in the past so this will be I believe number for end of an ongoing series we really got into some deep material and this is definitely one that says still abstract probably for some people who aren’t really deeply living in the sort of Matrix and the way that we are and the crypto space but this is I believe it going to be a public service for those who are crypto curious or who have some skin in the game and want to keep it safe and we’re going to talk about what is often termed operational security for having a lifestyle that’s that’s starting to become your own bank in about people say happy your own bank will you better also you can do that if you want to get a Lambo after they become their own bank but I’d rather get an armored car lose it all so yeah we’re going to get into just some of the best practices some of the no some V the jargon but keep it very 101 level if we can and bring in some personal experiences and anecdotes and so yeah what that said then thank you so much again for joining us and if you could just tell us yeah give us an update on what’s going on with you and then we can LSU LSU rip on this on this topic cuz I know you got a lot to say sure thanks for having me back I’ve just been I really just been hard at work grinding away on a on a whole new version of software for my company coin text we took a nice round of seed funding and we took it in cryptocurrency so this is a very apropos I mean we’ve got a significant War chest that we are having to keep safe ourselves with our operational security and then of course Star product we do have some proprietary information that we also have to be very very careful with and that that we got to put into a situation with that were anything to happen to any of us Founders that we that the other ones would be able to to pick it up so this is a friend of mine for me right now and so yeah it’s cool it’s it’s it’s something that’s very very it’s it’s always fun to talk about especially at a high-level like a as you say like a 101 sort of level I think that there’s within the crypto space there’s definitely some people who fetishize operational security and I think that’s fantastic one thing that we should say going into this so so what is operational security this is keeping your information your money yourself safe and secure and there are a lot of facets to that most people don’t need a level of operational security that is at the level that you would need if you were a politician or Diplomat or a significantly Rich wealthy individual my youngest brother is actually a bodyguard private Executive Security for one of the in the top 20 richest individuals on the planet so he and I talked about this stuff quite a bit it’s super interesting but most people still have a need especially if you’re going to move into the crypto space a lot of people who have not had a lot of experience with dealing in cash I mean those people are paid and you know they work a job that paid either a check or there they get it direct deposited into their account and the bank takes on a lot of responsibility in terms of you know they’re going to be Mercy with you have fraud on your account if you get your card stolen they’re going to replace that for you and shut off the account and they’re going to handle a lot of operational security Now part of the promise of Bitcoin from the beginning from the white paper was that the idea is to remove those trusted third parties from out of the mix now you get a lot there’s a lot of benefits by removing those trusses third parties because those trusses third parties are the banks and in this day and age there’s very little separation between the banks and the state there’s kind of a revolving door with regulatory capture so you remove the bank’s you remove the state you get a lot more financial sovereignty but with financial solvency comes the responsibility of taking care of your own operational security because no one else is going to do it for you so we’ve got you sent me over this is this is really awesome that you put this put together a sort of on a map of things to talk about in terms of operational security I think you’ve got him handled do you then want to go over sort of what you had in mind a place to start and then we’ll just jump in at each other at each individual place that sounds great yeah and thank you for providing that intro that was so accessible and I feel like the grandmas that we want to use non-custodial wallets could all Beach standing up and cheering right now just hearing what you just said because you’re also giving a little bit of credit to the systems that we rely on or support so it shows a well-balanced prospective you get a lot of will you know I love one of my favorite economics quotes is Thomas Sowell and he says in economics there are no Solutions only trade-offs and so you should never think that crypto is a solution in and of itself there is a series of trade-offs and I think that to be responsible in moving into this new space we have to be honest about not just what the positive trade-offs are but also what some of the costs are or some of the things that we potentially are losing in terms of convenience and in terms of security that we because then we can make up the difference right so at least we go into it with our eyes wide open absolutely absolutely very nice to point there and yeah I guess I was just say for myself a little bit of background I’m not I’m not in a paid position as a security professional but in the office environments and corporate environments in other sort of associations that I have I have attempted to in my step up into that role and have a sort of try to be a fly on the wall or have some have my ear to the door on the security professional space and 10 years ago there weren’t that many podcast when I started getting it is now there’s a whole bunch of them and I kind of elapsed on my being really focused on this stuff but one wants to get back in the car once I got into crypto I got back into looking at what are the pentesters doing what are these professional groups that are actually doing with skull penetration testing and they’re actually hired like in that movie sneakers with Robert Redford which is a a Prelude to the entire crypto Revolution that were in right now and it goes back to the crypto Wars and I’ve just wrecked my gutter recommend that for anybody if you want to get that do stuff with that sort of phone techno sci-fi thriller you know that I sent him by then watch that movie sneakers from the early 90s cuz it puts they was prophecy for right now so I just want to throw that out there that I’m not I get a professional here but what I’m trying to do is be a bridge between lay folks and people my loved ones and myself and the very technical computer science now of protecting what you have and then we say it’s the Wild West in October in the wild west if you had a six-shooter you pretty much we’re okay to protect your your winnings at the casino and your gold and your your lady and your horse and whatever else but now you know you got to be a multi-dimensional ninja and have a sense of this jargon and stuff so I’m just going to lay out a little bit of the sort of this mind map that has some dragon in it but stuff that you were super well-versed in so you would have a better handle on bringing it down to Earth are people so you know I think we can start with just looking at his concept of threat modeling which is if you if you have a few interests and a business model you’re looking at your your risks your opportunities that the competitors in the market place that markets there’s a there’s always things we take for granted about business modeling will part of that risk assessment part of a business or your personal life is to look at what is water in your line of work and your lifestyle like you said if you’re not super rich you’re not a politician you probably have you know somewhere along Joe sixpack to maybe not all the way to Zuckerberg with something in between where you’re trying to deal with you know that what is typical for you and your life your station in life and I just broke it down into three broad categories that you can zoom in to in for this its malice negligence and in the case of crypto its regulatory so what are the threats coming at most of us people who are trying to hurt us take something from us manipulators make a new trolls makes Michael Apso without drilling down into that would you say we’re all facing that thread there’s always people who are who are coming at us with malice and then there’s a whole nother Spear of the threats that are just negligence you know that could be in Mentone on crypto Digital Life just a drunk driver or whatever you know any said negligence is people who are doing our intended harm to you and then I think a combination of both if I can put on my valise and negligence you get radio I think that’s right who in crypto you know what we’ll get into that but it’s like that that’s it right there so and then just to give you a maybe how about let’s just do this one more time so before I give away to reveal the cards of the other two broad categories here we’ll just let you go yeah go off on what comes to mind for you with malice negligence and Regulatory threats as a crypto user and developer so I think for most people malice is 4 / most average people out there malice is actually going to be your your number one concern but your concern although I’ll give you a little a little story here and this is this is one where I failed I think it’s kind of always good to to share when where you failed that the simple one that could happen to could really have happened to anybody and it illustrates that even with the best of intentions you can blow it with operational security so several years ago this is probably five six years ago I was going to go and do what was going to be my first ayahuasca ceremony and for anybody who’s gone through that process like you don’t know what’s coming and I’m somebody who out you know I’m always hoping for the best but preparing for the worst and the woman that I was seeing at the time I was living with her I was like I’m going off I’m going to go off and I’m going to do this ayahuasca ceremony and I’m going to leave you just in case something happens who know right so I wrote down on a piece of paper I said here are my passwords here’s the combination to my safe like here are all of these things just in case something were to happen to me hear the phone numbers that you should call whatever and I left this piece of paper with her actually I actually had left it in my closet and you know I didn’t really think about it the ceremony great I’d eventually a couple days later went and saw the piece of paper was in the same place took it like ripped it up through it through it in the toilet flush the toilet gone it was probably I don’t know about a year later we had broken up and I was doing my own thing living in another place already dating someone else and happened to run into a mutual friend of mine who seemed very sort of frantic when she saw she saw me a mutual friend of myself in my ex she was like oh my God I didn’t have your number I didn’t know what to do about this you have to know that your ex has access to your email and has been reading it this whole time she knows everything that’s been going on with you she’s been doing her best to try to like it like stepping between she’s been doing all this weird stuff in the background with a girl that you’re like dating now she’s trying to like mess all these things have been like oh my God and I thought to myself right I’m like how the hell does she have access and then it occurred to me oh yeah I had written that thing down so she had gone and written it all down now who knows who knows whether you know probably at the time she probably thought that she had like the best of intentions like oh just in case right or maybe not but that created that situation and particularly there was some business deals that we’re going on at the time it it really luckily luckily nothing you know terrible came of it and I was able to go through and and look and actually did see I wanted to Google it was a my Gmail account I went in to Google so we’ll security thing and did see that their identities other logins which is something that I advise everybody to check periodically that’s one of the easiest things that you can do for your operational security I know that you can set it so that alerts will come be sure that that’s set especially if you have an Android phone it’ll come right to your phone saying that another that an unknown device is trying to login be sure to have that that’s what that’s what just one small thing that that is very helpful so so this was one where malice came into play much later so it is to say that sometimes a mistake that you make at one point can pop-up much much much later so that’s that’s a story about malice and it’s one where it’s like think about that before you give away passwords you know codes to your phone all of these things and if you do something so so what would the moral of the story of Ben for me what I should have done is in that scenario every single one of those things that I had written down and turn the password and everything I should have changed them immediately so if you ever did write them down and give them to somebody that for some sort of situation like that if it’s I mean that’s perhaps inappropriate situation to be doing that in what I should have done as I should have as soon as I came back I should have changed them all everything you know what does that actually and I also another and I love that story and I’m going to actually follow that up with some stuff you’re going to love to have sex so appropriate for the for the the erotic nature of this podcast listenership for sure so we’re going to make the sexy and fun don’t worry that is the sexiest and most fun way to approach operation security is of course in relationships for the worst forms of malice can occur so okay so practically speaking because people there’s this sort of I mean it’s like they say dentist what is it Mirror Maze I can’t remember the list of the professions that have the highest suicide rate because people hate them or don’t take him seriously and I think security Chief security officers has got to be on that list because nobody listens to you know I listen to them and they are just sitting there end of the first ones to get fired when something goes wrong even though they warned everybody so because people are so resistant to best practices from Security Professionals that tell him you and please don’t give me you know your dog’s name password that you have for your bank and everything else cuz I just want to go in and update your WordPress the best thing that I would say to them is that okay temporarily change your password and if you don’t know how to create a secondary admin you know account on whatever it is they were working on then you change that password temporarily give me the change password and then as soon as the job is done you change it back to whatever you want and I don’t ever see or no I don’t want that liability so two-year Point absolutely that is the solution of that is there are times when you’re going to have to do exactly what you said and you know that sin if we can’t tell me also is that you remember the movie Casino I’m sure where it is like I remember it was just when you said that the line that came to me was from what is when he said you know if you love someone the trust him with everything otherwise what’s the point in the whole movie was based around how pretty much tea crave that safe-deposit box with a Shakedown money and she had was the only other person if you get in there to spend it and she get broken and used it to pay the old girl temp that is something to remember also about operational security that your security is immediately suspect it’s not fully compromised but you should consider it a you should consider it a major major threat if as soon as you share secure information with another individual so if you want to have real operational security I think an aunt again it’s you know I see so many people who give over there you know their codes to their their phones and all of this to two significant other and what not their pins to their bank accounts you know keys to an access to two other accounts these are all situations where it doesn’t it and we’ll get into this a little further but it’s like you in many ways are also putting them at risk when you do that especially if you do it unnecessarily right and you should always assume that although they may be completely benign at this point that in the future there is the possibility that this other individual who you can’t control who you don’t know what they’re doing 24/7 that that individual is going to to actually become a potentially a n attack surface themselves and so Emma and will get into that so I mean that’s that’s either through malice or that’s all through also through negligence right so that kind of leaves into the negligence as well because it’s like while you may be completely fastidious about what you do in terms of your operational security if any part of that you delegate to someone else or you share with someone else in a way that they can compromise it you don’t know if they’re going to be negligent or not like you don’t know what could possibly happen and so you want to maintain as much control as you possibly can now the interesting thing like what at what I do believe about maintaining control is that the best way to maintain control in this day and age is physically and the highest level security systems so you’re talking about like security systems that are like you know control nuclear launches or nuclear energy sites things that you know infectious diseases all of this all of those systems are all air-gapped that’s one of the things that they do with all of those systems and what are Gap means is that there’s no way for you to get from the internet to that system that system completely disconnected from the internet and completely disconnected from any internet-connected device and so that’s always going to be in this day and age your your safest bet and so it’s under your control disconnected from the internet where you can have some idea of where it is 24/7 that’s going to definitely mitigate negligence and then regulatory yeah this one in crypto is a tough one and it it requires constant learning I’ve actually I actually was schooled by my attorney now that we have a corporate attorney recently in terms of how I had thought that the government was handling and and and funny enough that this is like something that even people that I know who have been in crypto for a long time who guys who won ATM machines and what not clear on how the financial crimes enforcement Network which is fincen which are the ones who are really the the main people who crack down and turns of crypto exchange and and what not like unregistered money service businesses and why not how they work and how they’re handling cryptocurrency exchanges in and most people had thought that it fell under a a a foreign exchange law but come to find out fence and it doesn’t actually fall into foreign exchange law Dave Dave said themselves well know the foreign exchange while I was only a few or an exchanger of one currency of a country for another currency of a country so clearly and didn’t send says this themselves they say no it’s it’s it’s not that what we think it is and how we regulated as we regulated as a money transfer which is essentially like Western Union or MoneyGram or something like that it’s the law says that it’s someone who takes money from one person and then sends it on behalf of that person to another person and that it also says or to another location and so basically how they look at it is if I’ve if I take you no cash from you and then I send my Bitcoin aunt at I broadcast a transaction on to the blockchain they say well I didn’t give it to you I sent it to another location and so that’s money transfer and so this is how they are trying to you know crack down on people who are doing either ATMs without money service business license or hand-to-hand exchange is like with localbitcoins they’re having a very difficult time actually Prosecuting these things but what they are doing and it’s something for people to watch out for I think it’s still relatively safe to do localbitcoins but how they are getting people is they will if they’re just going off of greed they will say hey I want to buy $50,000 worth of bitcoin from you and those guys like okay sweet I want to do that I’ve got I’ve got it want to help you out and then they show up and before they do the exchange they say a man you know I’m glad that I could get these Bitcoin because I’ve got this big heroin deal that and you know he only take Bitcoin and glad you were here man and maybe we could do this in the future in the guy goes yeah sure no problem that’s how they got Charlie shrem how they got that’s how they get them all that’s how they get them all is an cuz of that becomes money laundering money laundry so you’re aware or that you have any knowledge that anything illegal to be having a sick note unless you’re buying Bibles for the mission in South America you are going to jail so this is so this actually has a parallel in the escort world and that is that it is completely legal to contract for time and companionship but the same way that they get escorts is the person shows up and they say yeah want to make sure like because I you know I’m very picky can I get XYZ right specific things and then if the the person who’s there is like oh yeah sure no problem and then they give them the money boom your pops so so what it comes down to is if you’re going to do exchanges with strangers of cash for crypto if they said just like if you’re an escort and they mention anything sexual other than you know and if anything other than time and companionship you just walk right out same sort of situation you just walk right out and you’re fine it’s no problem crypto entrapment and now it’s like you have all these at least these hilarious cultural memes around what Undercovers do at parties and stuff so now you just pretty much laid out how what is the crypto undercover sting operation guy look like a gal who can they go to a meet up and they are localbitcoins and they they would approach you like that in this is pretty much a some kind of entrapment that’s some serious you know what at their minds me for that people who are Tantra Savvy and remember the Phoenix goddess temple one of the operation that they did they came in and they would have undercover officers they called it operation goddess Temple a 6-month surveillance operation where they end in i interview Tracy on this pod Preston she said they would come in there is one guy came in there and said I want to take to get it to get a quote Fior rangement for sexual acts that would be entrapment she said he came in there any said I want to put my caca in your vagina, oh my God I want to not in court but it reminds me of that was that movie at a Tarantino one where they had that you got to be naturalistic as hell that. So anyway so K I was dead guessing but yeah that’s that’s this is so it at somebody in California a woman got popped for localbitcoins operating basic buy a localbitcoins operation running that kind of business so it’s it’s a trip though because you have The Regulators fighting over whether or not it’s a commodity or a currency in which case is kind of like well can I choose which which one of the Hammers is going to come down on me I’d rather be blessed for the money transfer thing though is very very broad so whether it’s a commodity whether it’s currency it literally says anything that substitutes for for Value. That that that substitutes for like money in any way this is what fence and they put out specific guidance on this saying this is how we’re handling it now another thing to think about when you’re talkin about regulatory is will the first thing is this the operating as an unlicensed money service business is very serious it’s the maximum penalty is 5 years in federal prison so it’s a very very serious it’s something that people should before you if you’re going to go out and think that you’re going to start exchanging crypto for cash as a business you really need to think about that the other thing to keep in mind is even though you may be cool under federal law with a federal law says is that if you are if you break State money service business law if you immediately become liable for the penalties under the federal so if you are fine under Federal but you’ve done something and all 50 states have to have different regulations so if you’ve done something wrong under the state regulation that’s just your going to get the state penalty and you’re going to be liable for the federal penalty as well now you’ve got States like New Hampshire that have specifically Exempted cryptocurrency from from money transfer and also if you are just selling a cryptocurrency hand-to-hand I actually have a letter from the banking Commission on their letterhead and all that in there like we so long as you are you know operating under best business practices as any other business we do not regulate that so in one of the few states where it’s cool on a Stateside but you see I mean you’re still liable for the Fed so it’s just that’s just something for people to keep in mind the state is always your biggest threat so before you go into you know before you go into any business in this regard definitely go and get some legal counsel look over the statutes read every single thing that you can and if there’s anything that seems unclear I really talk to a professional in that regard so that’s I just just want to say that that’s really important yeah thank you so much and anybody who’s paying attention to even just the headlines in crypto it’s it’s just the shitshow with all of this regulation although there are some allies for sure you know Wyoming Nevada New Hampshire is going to have to be a crypto what are the free state movement for crypto doubt that semi maybe it’s going to take that Meme and just brought in it and just be like go to a stronghold and do the regulatory Arbitrage Boogie you know sure for sure I mean that really the free state project is very proud of what’s happened in terms of crypto here in New Hampshire and I mean that’s the reason why I’m here it’s the reason why we why we decided to basecoin text here it’s just it clears up a lot man it really it really does it’s just that whole level of Regulation that we don’t even really have to worry about so I do think that there’s eventually it it just makes sense that there would be a crypto Silicon Valley or Wall Street I mean they have what they call Valley in Zurich Switzerland but I think it probably will have to be in the US side I mean the US is just the biggest market for all of this and of course the most important financial markets in the world are here in the US so you know if we’re going to break the dollar it’s going to be it’s going to be here for sure right on man yeah well thank you so much and I I know is that I had I’ve always I’ve often wondered since hearing about it you know what what that trade-off process was for you to leave Vegas and go there and you know you have the means I’m sure that will just live as many days of the year in Vegas if you want and still be a resident there but it’s not like I like somebody who they’re they’re never looking back to where their Hometown was when they get a job bus you know somewhere else but but I do appreciate that and that’s a bold move and believe me I fantasize about a dream about it and part of my soul is already prospecting over looking for property over there but but yeah man so something I will have to The Departed especially cuz you brought up the the Ayahuasca part one of the episodes I did in the past episode number 126 was called decrypting the cyberdelic revolution with the Renzo Haggerty and he is the host of the Psychedelic Salon podcast and he has a really solid Tech and internet background that you can hear all about in that in that podcast but one of the things he said I want of his podcast was that he was talking about the the shaman Tony Moss who is outspoken Iowa’s modern sort of Ayahuasca Shaman and he said you know Lorenzo said about him I trust I would trust him with my root password any day so be careful who you share that with but yeah if you’re an interesting about the ceremony still cuz I thought you were actually going to go in the direction of like yeah I thought I was going into a really well vetted Shaman and then I ended up giving my my soul’s root password up to someone who had had a strong opsec in that regard will have to get into that I think we’ve got into a bit of that before we get on another episode ahead of us so back up. Yeah yeah thank you for all the stuff I think that was really really key material for no pun intended for the regulatory stuff anybody thinking about you know what your responsibilities is and then even just maybe something to the tax liability is something to add to that with if you have thoughts on that with them you haven’t been talking about that or just where you thinking about okay if you now when I think about I used to just want to give away crypto or get friends involving up and now I feel like oh my God every time I drop one Satoshi gun to someone else’s wallet they now have a tax liability that could get them in trouble later so I’m wondering a little bit so just to understand what that is the idea behind capital gains tax in and I believe that on crypto it is 21% I believe don’t don’t quote me on this and it’s also so basically what it is is that if you’ve held for the basically for over 12 months usually is what it is this time may may vary depending upon what your jurisdiction is it when it comes to capital gains but the idea behind capital gains is if you let’s say you bought at 1000 and you sold at 3000 you had $2,000 worth of capital games in terms of the value of the capital that you had one and so therefore you are ostensibly you’re liable for that capital gains now where this gets a little gray into the gray area and there’s a lot of gray areas in crypto is I can see it now and this is just people just got to know and got to get the word out and start building yeah I’m almost filling my gas tank to start driving out there right now either way I can guess it’s a people have been wanting you know it’s been it’s been on my not just a to-do list but actually really it’s it’s it’s the lot a lot of the stuff is is I can see it happening and also I have to if it’s not already being taken for some other obviously a worthy cause I feel like the love Free or Die state is going to be the hashtag that I don’t know how to set up with a handle on that it’s all you it’s you if you can take that and run with it if she if it works but I feel like that’s good Hello Google it’s the birthday I feel like you have a lot of love like a lot of love yeah I know I feel it I feel I feel you said you were a Healer and you seem you seem like very empathetic yeah this won’t this to me you know all of the trauma that I have witnessed that I’ve experienced ice I can imagine that this would be a place for people to better and I literally I mean you know they call it an adult industry we say that you’re a civilian if you’re not in front of the UNIF you’re not in front of the camera at doing this stuff for on the street or wherever you’re a civilian and so if that’s the case which I really truly believe it is then we need to have VA programs in hospitals in Reno and benefits and we’re doing a public service for helping leaving out everyone’s fantasies for them if they don’t have the courage or the resources to make them happen so for that I like to be treated with this much if not you know as much love and respect and dignity and resources as Veterans of violence and brutality and warfare. civilians is military yeah, that’s cool yeah and we aren’t we aren’t we you know and you know we were lying about reliving some sort of childhood, it wasn’t about servitude or Surrender sometimes it was just the process to the session would be the process to get to the Aftercare to get to that hug to get to that approval like being told you did a good job you know and when I realize that I thought there’s so much more I’ve actually I’ve had plenty of clients for a while there it was kind of weird they were widows widowers their wearers like I was attacking little words that were in various ways and people don’t understand that Sexual Energy can be incredibly therapeutic and healing you know when there’s something fundamentally wrong with that especially you know I mean now I mean Dairy mention you know I mean every day and I just kept having these handmade in handmaid’s tale things going through my mind and and now to be apart of Swap and to be keto on the inside track knowing what’s going on with this legislation here to decriminalize effort I am filled with hope and love all over again no more despair or fear I feel like this could really I meant to be alive right now at this time and to be here and now in this state I feel very very honored and lucky absolutely why I feel very honored and lucky that we are having this conversation you were exactly the voice of the representative that I wanted to find and connect with its in this is really an amazing amazing invigorating conversation and I just I just want to thank you again so much and you know we’ve got a little bit of time left I think we covered most of what I was super excited and looking forward to discussing I guess I would like to ask if you want to talk about the kind of support that you need from people in the area from people abroad people anywhere in the world listening to this but what what do you need to help your chapter really get to the to the point where were you have all your dreams are coming true and you know you have the people power and the skill sets what were you what are your pain points and what do you need so that that can just be put out there and it is a prayer absolutely absolutely awesome and I’m sex worker Outreach project is a nonprofit we do accept donations we accept recurring donations donations I mean just to be an ally to a sex worker to be supportive and you know aware that their work is real work and emotionally laboring work to know the sex work as a form of emotional and physical labor and that nobody story is is representative of all sex where you know and I think that the presence of sex workers in social movement come together and try to fight this and you have to fight what gone but it is a tubal refuse up sex workers bank accounts and it’s happened the money seems suspicious that’s unacceptable yeah yeah that’s you that’s the way to to bypass So Many Factors whether it’s the pimp violence or the banks or the state or even Amazon not wanting your wishlist to be you know used for compensation whatever it is the terms that you have to been in bed will I have to say that the my biggest public service announcement for anybody that might be in your network who listens to this is that I really hope that anyone listening who is a sex worker who has the u.s. exposed to these Financial choke point issues invest time in studying the whole cryptocurrency movement starting with Bitcoin and in aetherium but but you can accelerate that process if you start to look into joining the platform of spankchain which is bringing together all of the activism all of the the really Advanced cryptocurrency solutions for being your own bank literally being your own bank where you have peer-to-peer Financial transactions you can sell they will be yeah they will be providing a lot of solutions for the industry and for the producers and performers to be empowered independently and off the rails of the money system we don’t need to do our dirty work without your dirty Fiat is how I feel McGregor’s Outreach project we have like a meme donation thing you can donate cooked difference NFL Karma Dakshin and and how how sex workers are the difference between trafficking educate yourself some people have been looking for what seems like an ideal future to me or all of the the glory and the beauty of the healing in the transformation that is possible and also the the sort of in the streets marches and the activism going to take to get there and a couple of I guess you’re silly but up at the memes have come to me and one is it you know people I remember chanting in the streets protesting Wars and logging and you all kinds of pollution would not the people we would always chant whose streets are our streets and I can hear this echoing Cruise sheets are seeds coming out with our seats and then you can also got allies and civilians involved right thing that ever since I started looking into it swapped but I’ve ever felt like we’ll all of the the Financial Funding necessary to do real political work lobbying in legislation and all that stuff I feel like there’s got to be a way to solicit the the buyers of sex work the purchasers of the material that the funeral of the client’s right of the clients are you so mean maybe PornHub can put a donate button to swap you know somewhere I mean set stuff like that I would love to see the financing for all of the stuff that you have in your bucket list of dreams to make come true for this industry and for this movement that that the money if the people who can afford to pay for their further their fetish or for their experience or for their media everybody and you know what I mean I come from the the green business Eco business startup kind of seen in in LA and it was a no-brainer that you would want to launch your startup having a dollar of every purchase or a percentage of your purpose so that you could have the the pr potential of putting out press releases were you talk about how you give back as a social impact or I mean even PornHub has done a lot of cool stuff like that and I don’t mean to keep harping on them but because they’re the biggest conglomerate really that the industry absolutely and you know that they’re behind them right that I was either going to let my contact continue to be over there in cream to the channel myself because it because you know we can continue and have more follow-ups to this conversation but I certainly would love to explore some of your insights in the industry and I have some yes yeah I wanted to add you know how that Whole Foods you know if you have to you have to be a squeaky wheel gets the grease and House of weird that you were is this is thrilling to me I know that there’s a there’s worse things in the world than having pornstars solicit you on your doorstep like door-to-door canvassing for help me on Monday to take your singing telegrams you know what the my name is you could use the conservative rhetoric against him and say we’re here to clean up the adult industry sign here and give us a check what do you mean well I know where else next workers never would never when they used to pack meat and the muckrakers had to blow the whistle and that’s how we have ratio any conservative how do I I subscribed to say the r word regulation but I will say any sort of public outcry about working conditions that’s all we need you know and Industry within the industry of people like you who know what performers need what the issues are and can represent that and it’s not coming top down it’s not coming from you know sideswiping from weird organizations with too much money trying to push agendas where they don’t belong and some people know what I’m talking about there and some people don’t but it’s what they did with the keywords you know trafficking of course people wanted to sign off on that piece of aeon I support you know anti-trafficking laws of course I do and so what we could do is we could eat give them a dose of their own medicine like you said hi we’re going to clean up your industry and fine hair like that cuz that’s how they do so many things when they say you know that people don’t read the fine print when they when they sign initiatives to get on the ballot you know they read the sort of sensationalist headline that skews the facts to some moral kind of you get boxed in Morley by the by the by the headline of whatever it is and so that it’s it’s like appealing to logical fallacies for anyone to want to do that but yeah I mean this is really it’s actually truly the holiest and most most sort of medic there’s there’s a way for all of the people to I mean excellent performance have the legal space to do this right then then the medical aspect will I think it’s going to naturally organically become a safer environment if you’re not having to be underground in the hide from you know the the filming commission and fucking cops and at the neighbors and you could actually have facilities that work up Captain staff and you know and fungus were like just clean to the places I mean that’s what people say about the all of those secondary crime things that go along with Vice and things being underground and the black market economy you know if when you when you legalize drugs all of those secondary cramps go away and so this is a war on sex and we need to end the war on drugs and the war on sex and these problems will sell themselves in the free market so it’s going to happen New Hampshire you know get ready full medical benefits of cannabis right and I’m actually is for you I think what will happen is that is that is that the Cheeto person will get a reverse gangbang by a bunch of Tantra see the goddess and he will want to transform United States into one giant orgiastic goddess Temple to heal the planet from all the patriarchy that’s my that’s my vote I’m going to put that are you trying to turn me on now I try I try not to but sometimes I can’t help it it just happens thank you for that well yeah so we it’s been one of the most delightful hours of my life at sharing this time with you and I’d like to ask you now to give us the links to everything that you want to share and that you’re involved with and close this out with some final words calls-to-action slogans from the front lines whatever you like to share please take your time. Thank you it’s been an honor and I’m I’m I’m pretty sure my cheeks are going to hurt from smiling too so that’s as wot USA. O r g basically you where you can find me I just would like to do everything I can and vegetation Security building in Albuquerque beautiful thank you awesome alright I see well yeah let’s let’s call it a podcast and let’s be in touch and I will I will be in touch again very soon thank you so much and have a wonderful evening. Smiley and you’re coming over here thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Balancing Wellness and Technology with Crypto Commentator Dr. Stephanie Murphy TPP157

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In this episode I’m am joined by Stephanie Murphy, PhD who is one of my most highly regarded wisdom keepers in the crypto space. While catching up on the complete archive of the several year running Let’s Talk Bitcoin podcast I was vaguely aware that there was a sex and science show on their network but didn’t,  until recently discover that Stephanie is a co-host. The moment I learned of this I felt a ray of divine light beam down as I realized that we’re both sex podcasters and therefore it would be appropriate for me to reach out and invite her to be a guest on the show. I often feel that the edgy and adult nature of my podcast limits the range of potential guests, in this case I felt so blessed that we could share common ground.

The work she has done in the crypto space is so empowering and her compassionate fury for true personal and financial liberty has seriously changed my life.  I highly recommend exploring her offerings and enjoying her voice in all of the various formats its packaged in.

Our discussion covers:

  • her personal life journey leading to her prominent role as a crypto commentator.
  • the role of yoga, meditation, and wellness in her life and her works
  • her experience of and thoughts on toxic masculinity and toxic patterns of conflict in the crypto space
  • the need for more holistic approaches to conflict resolution in technology communities in general
  • the historic human dramas that have caused forks in the bitcoin blockchain
  • practical down-to-earth strategies for the average non-techy person to get into crypto without relying on centralized third parties
  • the need for careful and well tested approaches to sex industry use cases for crypto
  • and much more!

About Stephanie
Stephanie Murphy, PhD, is a professional voice actor with numerous credits, including national commercials, videos, and audiobook titles. She is formerly a biochemist. She can also be heard as a host of the podcasts Sex & Science HourLet’s Talk Bitcoin, and Sovryn Tech.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin I love your beloved book from the time for fun podcast episode number 157 I am probably going to die I don’t think I’ve ever been this Starstruck before with the guests because I’ve become a huge fan of Doctor Stephanie Murphy she is a doctor about chemistry co host of Let’s Talk Bitcoin podcast and the sex and science hour is also a professional voice actress but she will probably mad at you will probably assume Our Guest by the way when you go to speak and to give a bit of background he right for anyone who his listen to the last I guess almost a year worth of podcast episode will notice that I have taken a pretty obsessive interest in the cryptocurrency space because to me it’s the Fulfillment of so many broken and Lost Dreams within my camps behind this movement to see a really successful model and come out that is accessible and and has utility and is actually destructive on all and all levels of society and so it’s really is forced me to go back in time and I’ll do my best to catch up on this to stay informed and to be really current with this Revolution and in doing so I really dug to go to myself I listen to the entire Archive of the podcast that is trying to become aware of all this stuff and I’ve all the people in in the movement that I have been studying so deeply really anthropologically studying and understanding the different tribalism Xin subcultures within it and really it’s the the women and more Empower leadership roles like Stephanie that I I really appreciate coming from obviously that the goddess worshiping Divine country background in knowing how so many of these male ego whether it’s Warlords or pimps are gangsters are Bitcoin Bros or just that these these people at the top of the crypto pyramid who are who are really running the show with really toxic nail energy that’s not you know we’re fine by a lot of things that that I talked about her that we talked about on this show it’s always a blessing to connect with those women who are outspoken feminist outspoken libertarian or anarchists store or Dion labels is probably better way to go ultimately but I can’t express how grateful I am to have this privilege to speak with Stephanie Murphy right now so please tell us all about yourself and I’m so curious can I call these nuts for it’s because you really wear a lot of hats in and it’s all very impressive High then will thank you so much for small for having me on your show I was super excited when I got your email when you reached out to me I think you found out about what I was doing on let’s talk Bitcoin the podcast I’ve been a part of for five years when we recently did a live event in Chicago for our 5 year anniversary and we did a live performance of our show which was like a total dream come true for me so yeah I’m just really glad to connect and don’t die if you if you do start to I’ll do CPR on you yeah me breathe breathe through the Stars technician school in an MD program for a couple of years I didn’t end up finishing because I I made a career change and I sort of picked a different path but I guess that’s sort of start it starts off you know a little bit more about myself a little more detail about myself I’m very interested in health and medicine but I guess what I realized over my time and in medical school was that I’m interested in Wellness more so and like I don’t think that Western medicine but you know it there’s a lot of great things about Western medicine but it’s not so good at addressing like how to be well and like real with genuine well-being and for that I think we have to turn two things more like yoga and ayurveda in like maybe Chinese medicine and other modalities that are different from what we think of in the west which is really a new kind of medicine that’s only been around for a couple hundred years and it’s better at treating those kind of emergency situations rather than teaching how to people how to really be well or like radiantly healthy from the inside out so I guess I guess I’ve always had an interest in that in that kind of holistic Wellness I do a lot of yoga and meditation and as you mentioned I’m a voice actor and I’ve never dated some guided meditations I married some books about meditation yoga practice is part of my life I try to integrate that mindset into everything that I do and so it’s been an interesting because you know how did I get involved in cryptocurrency right trying to live a mindful kind of life you know you think those two things don’t exactly go together and you’re right they don’t the cryptocurrency world is so fast-paced and it does have this as you mentioned like a very masculine kind of energy and dynamic to it and so like how did I end up in there I still don’t exactly know but you know it’s just always been fascinating to me I I heard about Bitcoin on the radio on in 2011 or or maybe early 2012 and I started reading about it I was fascinated by it I was sort of interested also in like libertarian spaces or communities as well and that was something that a lot of those cut those people were talking about with cryptocurrency so I found it really interesting that Bitcoin at the time and then all kinds of cryptocurrency lyrics would allow you to have more agency in more control over your own money which money in this world is a tool that allows you to do things and it’s it’s represents power in a lot of ways sent it to its empowerment and I need to look at that from a negative way like it enforces power structures and oppresses people or you can look at it if there’s another way of looking at it looking at it to which is that money is it is a tool that enables freedom and living in a lot of ways and so how can we have more control over it in our own lives and how can we think about it in a way that empowers us as individuals and I really felt like Bitcoin did that and that was what was so exciting about it to me from the very beginning so I got really interested in Bitcoin early on if you my friends at the time we’re also experimenting with Bitcoin like some people’s friends are like experimenting with drugs my friends were experimenting with Bitcoin remember like somebody you know someone cooking like sandwiches and people were buying sandwiches with like physical cuz H’s Bitcoins which at the time were worth like one or two dollars are like $6 if you were trading these like little because they should coins around people were giving each other tips in Bitcoin to their podcast in like 2012 even into a little bit into like early 2013 are there was the first Bitcoin ATM that was built by a company called Lama Su which I think still makes Bitcoin ATMs are there really more like vending machines not really an ATM but like you can put cash in and you get Bitcoins out onto your phone well yeah I got the opportunity to use like the first one of those that was ever ever on the market and so that was really cool I just just watching that happen and watching people use Bitcoin in a lot of different real life ways and experiment with all the new apps and Technologies and see how that change people’s attitudes about me and their lives and how it like opened up more options to do things that people couldn’t do before with it so yeah that was all really interesting to me about Bitcoin as I mentioned I have a medical background and I also was involved with a group called free Aid which was kind of like a not really like I guess maybe I could be compared to sort of like an anarchist black cross kind of thing it was like a like a volunteer all volunteer medical medically skilled people providing kind of first aid at like festivals and events basically that’s what that’s what the group did and also education about about CPR and AED and how to use an AED defibrillator in case somebody has a cardiac arrest because time is of the essence when that happens and you don’t want to rely on First Responders you can’t rely on First Responders always to get there super fast sometimes you have to just find your community and the people people that are around you and I really like that idea of you know the community kind of selling in support when First Responders couldn’t always be around so yeah but it’s so the free Aid was doing that kind of education and also providing volunteer first aid at festivals and events which allowed us to go to festivals and his head was fun but yeah we found out about Bitcoin really early we started getting donations in Bitcoin and we became like one of the first organizations that decided to kind of run a nonprofit type of organization entirely on bitcoin and that was in I think she’s a thousand thirteen was only made that switch so that was an interesting experience as well I’m trying to run sort of a decentralized organization with Bitcoin and you know provide first aid and be a part of a community and contribute back cryptocurrency so now I feel like I’m going off on tangents and rambling but this is all just a sort of still people in on my my own background and like my interest and stuff like that all the things were yammy stacking them up together at once for me and seeing you has so many high highly developed skills and values and points of connection to that title is in the whole survivalist movement in the whole Wilderness survival S&P Plumbing the Yeah Yeah Yeahs that I guess like to go back even further I am I’m not a computer scientist you know my background is in Life Science & environmental medicine the medicine side of things and I’m also really interested in in Psychology and sort of mental well-being and wellness stuff like that spent a lot of time reading about how can have Wellness in our minds as well as our bodies and of course it’s all connected the mind in the body are are inseparable as far as I’m concerned and they affect one another let’s see I so I’m not a computer scientist and I’m not really like a like a cypherpunk but I was something you said before resonated with me as well cuz I I used to get you know I was really interested in like punk rock and likes to sort of the whole do-it-yourself kind of ethic of punk rock and music of course and I think that really influenced me to be interested in cryptocurrency because like again do it yourself it gives you power over it allows you to kind of be your own bank and not rely on other people to manage your money for you which I just think is really really cool and that DIY DIY as a kind of came in with with with free Aid to is like you know helping on a community level rather than relying on other centralized organizations to always be the successor to be dependent on them you know what I said before if I if you don’t mind is for second. I’ve got it before I forget now that you mention this I was just at the the crypto invest Summit in LA and I’m not showing anything but this project was amazing that give a presentation and they they pissed this project called Guardian where they’re actually doing decentralized Medical Response on a blockchain so that there can be rapid deployment of trained Personnel that would be able to receive compensation for their their Works without relying on a nine-one-one system which doesn’t exist in whatever percentage of the world and Haven to talk about doing something like motorcycle Medics and I can only imagine how that’s going to be a completely Global decentralized blockchain kind of 911 service that in franchises in employees your neighbors email incentivizes they’re being medics self trainer or yeah and I can’t get up. Please continue thing yeah okay so well you know with an interest in health and well-being and yoga and stuff like that I guess inevitably comes in interest in sexuality in Psychology to of course sexuality in relationships and part of the okay so here’s the story of how I change careers and also where I’m at right now so this is leading up to the present day so while I was in medical school and I was also working towards my PhD in Biochemistry I listen to a lot of advice podcast on the internet you know like Dear Prudence and like Dan Savage and all the popular ones where they talk about relationships and Saxon there’s another podcast you called sex is fun which had a big impact on me I loved it at the time at this like 2006 and 2007 so there weren’t even that many podcasts around this was like before the podcast Gold Rush or whatever or boom time the rent that money podcast on the internet but the ones that were out there were some of them were really really good and entertaining and I got I guess I just got really into the whole world of podcasts and I thought I wouldn’t it be cool if I could do that too and I started a podcast with a friend of mine pretty much as a joke and it was like an advice podcast and at first we were like asking our friends hey like give us a question we can talk about on our podcast and sometimes we we like fabricated question perfect at first but then we actually get started getting people asking us questions and pretty soon we had a an advice podcast that we were doing and if he came so much fun that one day I kind of realized I like doing this better than like what I do for most of the day and most of the week and at that point I sort of knew like okay you know maybe I need to like radically changed my life and do something completely different than the career path that I’m on and so it took me another couple of years to really solidify that choice I was I had a lot of anxiety and fears about like how I was going to make money and like how other people would judge me for for changing careers that way because you know I guess when you go to get Advanced degrees you got a lot of Praise it’s like something that you’re that is considered like a good and like noble thing to do and this quote successful you know by the rest of society and when you don’t follow that model A sometimes you get a little bit of heat and so I was like oh what are people going to think you know if I basically drop out of grad school till I can become a podcaster that sounds ridiculous but it actually wasn’t ridiculous because I figured out that will podcasting may not pay the bills but it’s always going to be a really fun thing to do but I have this parallel skill people always tell me I have a great voice nowadays it’s possible to work from home and be a voice actor on the internet and I learned about I learned about doing voiceover I volunteered to do an audio book project did my first one it was actually your audience might like this it was a book called markets not capitalism and it was about like Market anarchism but you know kind of being skeptical of like the word capitalism in like the traditional like and cap kind of anarcho-capitalist kind of line or philosophy says my first audio books that I volunteer to do and I enjoyed it so much that I said yeah I think I could do that you know for like I could do that all day you know and so I start doing more audiobooks I started doing short commercials that started like writing commercials has started writing via videos and things like that and overtime I just got more and more voice-over gigs also started doing this is an 2013 when I was making the the switch and I’d had a successful podcast for I guess about five years at that point and I was learning the skills of a voiceover kind of self-taught and reading books about it and watching tutorials and things like that taking classes and and yeah I just got into doing voice-over and I made the switch to do a full-time and and then suddenly I had my own business and I wasn’t really working in science anymore I discontinue a little bit with the science stuff because I did end up finishing my PS4 I left I did not finish med school but I did finish my PhD in Biochemistry and so I ended up doing a lot of like scientific and medical technical kinds of voice over and of course cryptocurrency related voice over because I was interested in in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency and I also ended up writing a newsletter for a couple of years for the sense Research Foundation which is like a human life extension kind of private Foundation that funds research on extending human lifespan didn’t audiobook of ending aging as well which was which was by Aubrey de grey who’s the founder of sense so yeah it was I guess it did my interest just sort of dovetailed with each other and I ended up on you know becoming of a full-time voice actor and that’s that’s what I do now I still do a podcast where I talked about relationships and sex on the Internet it’s called sex and science hour and yes I think I will link to it and your shout outs but that’s what I do now that invoice over and audiobooks and of course let’s talk Bitcoin still doing that shows all awesome so can I ask how did you cross paths with Adam and Adam Levine and Andreas Antonopoulos and how did you get the are connected in that The Power Team so that was kind of a serendipitous story so this was right at the time where I was changing careers and I was just starting to get into voice over and one of the services that I offered was writing and producing and voicing a podcast intro for people’s podcasts and a friend of mine who listen to my advice show at the time I told her that Adam was starting a podcast and told Adam hey there’s this lady that makes podcast intros you should have her do a podcast intro for your show and so Adam found me that way and asked me to produce an intro for his show at the time it was not called let’s talk Bitcoin it was called The Daily Bitcoin show and it was it was going to be a Daily Show which is a very ambitious project start producing intro but then the format of the show changed and Adam said no we’re going to go to twice a week and we have to change a brake hose cuz you know he had another co-host that there were some scheduling and time zone difficulties with and so he found Andreas and cuz Andreas was pretty well-known on speaking about Bitcoin on the internet I mean he’s very he’s still like one of the most well-known people in Bitcoin today and he’s awesome and great they both are and so Adam says to me yeah you know like got this guy Andreas we’re going to do a show you do show to your party master and you know about Bitcoin would you like to be on the show and I said yes I would Abba I was available you know because I just kind of change careers in my schedule is kind of open and so we started doing show twice a week and yeah I would it just it just became let’s talk Bitcoin and that’s that’s how the show is born has it has it consumed percentage wise for you personally to be so fully up with all these developments I just imagined that you’d have to be reading white papers in peer-reviewed journals and all these different Reddit subreddits and all the stuff that mean but you all just sort of oranges dancing and juggling all this stuff and then still having a million other fun things you’ve been like for you to be like literally an Oregon digesting this entire space into a talk show is just mind-blowing wow well I guess I guess that’s sort of is why I mentioned at first when we started off talking you know that I tried to like live sort of a mindful life and it is impossible to keep up with all the Bitcoin and cryptocurrency news at first I tried and I spent a lot of time doing it but yeah I mean I do have a business that is related to bitcoin but it’s not all about Bitcoin I don’t really work in the blockchain OR cryptocurrency industry and that’s kind of on purpose because it allows me to keep some distance from it so you know I hear about stories but I don’t hear about every story and I guess between all of us on let’s talk Bitcoin you know we are able to propose topics that look interesting and jump out to us and then we kind of read about them and research them and we talked about them on the show I mean we don’t we don’t over research either because then you know we want to save discussion for the show and we want to like sort of get out and take it apart on the show so yeah we we don’t we don’t even try to like drink from the firehose I guess because it is like drinking from a firehose it’s just really can’t keep up and if you try you’re going to kind of go crazy so yeah I mean like I stay off of a lot of social media I don’t really I never really got that into the Bitcoin forums Reddit or Twitter I know there’s a lot of discussion that goes on in there and I don’t know I just feel like happier kind of not really kind of hanging back from this yeah well then sold some of the things I guess because I listen to everything in such a compressed kind of one episode after another for some times 10 12 hours a day just you know because I have a job I have my day jobs things I can I can be piping and podcast in 4 hours of LA traffic and you know working on landscapes that stuff so I have plenty of opportunity to just go through the whole history and it seems like it’s this is as fascinating of a of a of a science-fiction I mean this is as deep and complex as any Philip K dick Lego Saga and outer space in the future or something it’s so there’s so many different human dramas and in Revelations about power and gender and and it’s just it’s it’s the most thrilling story eventually I’m sure they’ll be plenty of movie screenplays you know written about sociology Stephanie who could have imagined all this stuff so it’s it’s it’s such a thrilling adventure and then again I think you offer for being describes some pretty much different chapters and I’m curious from your perspective and not to tokenize you as a woman but to really honor it what what is the feminine qualities that you that you choose to embody Franklin from your perspective how you have reacted to her process just the that shadow side of masculinity that gets represented as these is basically verbal violence online and all of it are trolling and just the the way that decision-making happens in a very Unholy stick and very kind of in the middle of all that which you know if a lot of a lot of women in a lot of spaces they do say fuck this shit here I’m going to go do my thing that and I think with what style and your co-host on good cleaner certainly a very aware and very I don’t like I think you all are immune from some of those entrance battles and you don’t haven’t taken sides really so that you have enough for me. open up about what it’s like to to have that experience yeah thanks for asking about that and I appreciate that you said right up right away like that you’re not trying to tokenize me as a woman cuz that is something that happens a lot in the space like we get asked to be on panels of like women in Bitcoin and represent quote on quote the female perspective on bitcoin as though there’s one female perspective on anything you know and yeah it isn’t as though it could be like the diversity of women’s experiences could be represented on like a panel of four people being asked questions like what is it like as a woman you know I don’t know I mean that stuff definitely happens I will say that there are a lot of you know there are a lot of people in the Bitcoin space that are that are totally you know welcoming and supportive and don’t make me feel uncomfortable uncomfortable can make me forget that it’s like can be a a sort of a gendered space a times but you know there’s always like some elements that make you remember that there is sort of this unbalanced going on you know for example there were articles going around about like Bitcoin conferences and like some of the entertainment into like the booth babes in the theater having business meetings in strip clubs and things like that and I mean like I always am careful to say in those discussions cuz I really believe this like I support sex workers I’m not saying anything bad about them it but I do think it’s inappropriate to I guess like force a business meeting to be held in an invite like an environment where women are being sexualized and probably wouldn’t feel comfortable attending like a business meeting in that context so you know there’s that I mean yeah it like it is Brandon earlier today there was a gorgeous and I said, we’re in Los Angeles ever look at the sky and you know it is it is sitting at a Mexican restaurant and seen white people everywhere it turned out because it’s kind of like if there is such a thing as middle class in Hollywood now I feel sick from New York City driving I guess it depends on who’s driving I get there in four and a half but all of the food everything I make sense to to be posted up legally in New Hampshire for so many reasons and then I feel like it well we will be I can imagine it I kind of imagined that it would be the Vegas or or like you’re saying but I’m surprised that there isn’t a more of a booming adult Production Studio house industry given that you could it’s it’s bad about sounds like it’s about as far as away is Vegas and everyone fled to Vegas when the the kind of life started taking enforceable effects in the LA County area so that’s a silly question I have for you is it you know if you’ve been following the the regulation around and this sort of the big money the big money clinical groups who are trying to shut down the street on the health but with the health department as a sort of there their battering ram into the industry I’m curious in New Hampshire are they is it is there any specifications from the health department or health code that that are trying to set the rules for the industry for the porn industry there it is it is the Wild Wild West out here we are more people more to join you know start producing they would have to try to regulate it but I don’t know if they would because I really don’t think they would I adhere to the same you know guidelines as as far as testing goes the only difference is I pay to get tested we we provide them with testing we make sure everyone you know we we go through this last we have this very detailed checklist I think it was inspired by Nikki Benz I think it’s called an if possible the only difference is we’re not paying Los Angeles or Las Vegas free small company but you know we talked about splitting, according Talent from Vegas and Los Angeles and you know kind of responsibility regulating type of business you just have to have trust that all people are you know I’m doing the right thing around that is because yeah I think that I think like Outlets sexually here you know I said you know if you will actually liberated place like you know I even thought about you some Leaf peeping directed in the professional studio shoot up or down with your spouse just that sounds like a great guy honestly before you even were saying this stuff I could I was just it was a premonition that you would be talking about this because I I just felt like you were going to probably end up working in some capacity with the Chamber of Commerce of wherever whatever region or whatever sort of municipality or me to Sally’s and actually help that like what you’re you can’t you know you can’t afford your Public Works projects you know your new parks are being closed down for whatever reason well here we got the screws it’s going to be amazing yeah I can see it now and start building and I’m almost filling my gas tank to start driving out there right now I can of gas its people have been wanting you know it’s been it’s been on my not just a to-do list but actually really it’s it’s it’s the lot a lot of the stuff is is I can see it happening and also I I I want to if it’s not already being taken for some other obviously a worthy cause I feel like the love Free or Die state is going to be the hashtag that I talk to Subway to get a handle on that it’s all you it’s you if you can take that and run with it if she if it works but I feel like that’s good it’s the best I feel like you have a lot of love but I like a lot of love yeah I know I feel it I feel I feel you said you were a Healer and you seem you seem like very empathetic yeah this won’t this to me you know all of the trauma that I have witnessed that I’ve experienced ice I can imagine that this is would be a place for people that veteran died literally I mean you know they call it in the adult industry we say that you’re a civilian if you’re not in front of you in if you’re not in front of the camera and doing the stuff for on the street or wherever you’re a civilian and so if that’s the case which I really truly believe it is then we need to have VA programs in hospitals in a note and benefits and we’re doing a public service for helping living out everyone’s fantasies for them if they don’t have the courage or the resources to make them happen so for that I like to be treated with this much if not you know as much love and respect and dignity and resources as veterans violence and brutality in Warfare civilians is military yeah that’s cool yeah and we aren’t we aren’t we know we were lying about reliving some sort of childhood, it wasn’t about servitude or Surrender sometimes it was just the process to the session would be the process to get to the Aftercare to get to that hug to get to that approval of being told you did a good job you know and when I realize that I thought there’s so much more I’ve actually I’ve had plenty of clients for a while there it was kind of weird they were widows widowers their wearers like I was attacking little words that were in various ways and people don’t understand that Sexual Energy can be incredibly therapeutic and healing you know when there’s something fundamentally wrong with that especially you know I mean now I mean Dairy mention you know I mean every day and I just kept having these handmade in handmaid’s tale things going through my mind and and now to be apart of Swap and to be keto on the inside track knowing what’s going on with this legislation here to decriminalize effort I am filled with hope and love all over again no more despair or fear I feel like this could really I meant to be alive right now at this time and to be here and now in this state I feel very very honored and lucky absolutely why I feel very honored and lucky that we are having this conversation you were exactly the voice of the representative that I wanted to find and connect with its in this is really an amazing amazing invigorating conversation and I just I just want to thank you again so much and you know we’ve got a little bit of time left I think we covered most of what I was super excited and looking forward to discussing I guess I would like to ask if you want to talk about the kind of support that you need from people in the area from people abroad people anywhere in the world listening to this but what what do you need to help your chapter really get to the to the point where were you have all your dreams are coming true and you know you have the people power and the skill sets what were you what are your pain points and what do you need so that that can just be put out there and it is a prayer absolutely absolutely awesome and I’m sex worker Outreach project is a nonprofit we do accept donations we accept recurring donations donations I mean just to be an ally to a sex worker to be supportive and you know aware that their work is real work and emotionally laboring work to know the sex work as a form of emotional and physical labor and that nobody story is is representative of all sex where you know and I think that the presence of sex workers in social movement come together and try to fight this and you have to fight what gone but it is a tubal refuse up sex workers bank accounts and it’s happened the money seems suspicious that’s unacceptable yeah yeah that’s you that’s the way to to bypass So Many Factors whether it’s the pimp violence or the banks or the state or even Amazon not wanting your wishlist to be you know used for compensation whatever it is the terms that you have to been in bed will I have to say that the my biggest public service announcement for anybody that might be in your network who listens to this is that I really hope that anyone listening who is a sex worker who has the u.s. exposed to these Financial choke point issues invest time in studying the whole cryptocurrency movement starting with Bitcoin and in aetherium but but you can accelerate that process if you start to look into joining the platform of spankchain which is bringing together all of the activism all of the the really Advanced cryptocurrency solutions for being your own bank literally being your own bank where you have peer-to-peer Financial transactions you can sell they will be yeah they will be providing a lot of solutions for the industry and for the producers and performers to be empowered independently and off the rails of the money system we don’t need to do our dirty work without your dirty Fiat is how I feel McGregor’s Outreach project we have like a meme donation thing you can donate cooked difference NFL Karma Dakshin and and how how sex workers are the difference between trafficking educate yourself some people have been looking for what seems like an ideal future to me or all of the the glory and the beauty of the healing in the transformation that is possible and also the the sort of in the streets marches and the activism going to take to get there and a couple of I guess you’re silly but up at the memes have come to me and one is it you know people I remember chanting in the streets protesting Wars and logging and you all kinds of pollution would not the people we would always chant whose streets are our streets and I can hear this echoing Cruise sheets are seeds coming out with our seats and then you can also got allies and civilians involved right thing that ever since I started looking into it swapped but I’ve ever felt like we’ll all of the the Financial Funding necessary to do real political work lobbying in legislation and all that stuff I feel like there’s got to be a way to solicit the the buyers of sex work the purchasers of the material that the funeral of the client’s right of the clients are you so mean maybe PornHub can put a donate button to swap you know somewhere I mean set stuff like that I would love to see the financing for all of the stuff that you have in your bucket list of dreams to make come true for this industry and for this movement that that the money if the people who can afford to pay for their further their fetish or for their experience or for their media everybody and you know what I mean I come from the the green business Eco business startup kind of seen in in LA and it was a no-brainer that you would want to launch your startup having a dollar of every purchase or a percentage of your purpose so that you could have the the pr potential of putting out press releases were you talk about how you give back as a social impact or I mean even PornHub has done a lot of cool stuff like that and I don’t mean to keep harping on them but because they’re the biggest conglomerate really that the industry absolutely and you know that they’re behind them right that I was either going to let my contact continue to be over there in cream to the channel myself because it because you know we can continue and have more follow-ups to this conversation but I certainly would love to explore some of your insights in the industry and I have some yes yeah I wanted to add you know how that Whole Foods you know if you have to you have to be a squeaky wheel gets the grease and House of weird that you were is this is thrilling to me I know that there’s a there’s worse things in the world than having pornstars solicit you on your doorstep like door-to-door canvassing for help me on Monday to take your singing telegrams you know what the my name is you could use the conservative rhetoric against him and say we’re here to clean up the adult industry sign here and give us a check what do you mean well I know where else next workers never would never when they used to pack meat and the muckrakers had to blow the whistle and that’s how we have ratio any conservative how do I I subscribed to say the r word regulation but I will say any sort of public outcry about working conditions that’s all we need you know and Industry within the industry of people like you who know what performers need what the issues are and can represent that and it’s not coming top down it’s not coming from you know sideswiping from weird organizations with too much money trying to push agendas where they don’t belong and some people know what I’m talking about there and some people don’t but it’s what they did with the keywords you know trafficking of course people wanted to sign off on that piece of aeon I support you know anti-trafficking laws of course I do and so what we could do is we could eat give them a dose of their own medicine like you said hi we’re going to clean up your industry and fine hair like that cuz that’s how they do so many things when they say you know that people don’t read the fine print when they when they sign initiatives to get on the ballot you know they read the sort of sensationalist headline that skews the facts to some moral kind of you get boxed in Morley by the by the by the headline of whatever it is and so that it’s it’s like appealing to logical fallacies for anyone to want to do that but yeah I mean this is really it’s actually truly the holiest and most most sort of medic there’s there’s a way for all of the people to I mean excellent performance have the legal space to do this right then then the medical aspect will I think it’s going to naturally organically become a safer environment if you’re not having to be underground in the hide from you know the the filming commission and fucking cops and at the neighbors and you could actually have facilities that work up Captain staff and you know and fungus were like just clean to the places I mean that’s what people say about the all of those secondary crime things that go along with Vice and things being underground and the black market economy you know if when you when you legalize drugs all of those secondary cramps go away and so this is a war on sex and we need to end the war on drugs and the war on sex and these problems will sell themselves in the free market so it’s going to happen New Hampshire you know get ready full medical benefits of cannabis right and I’m actually is for you I think what will happen is that is that is that the Cheeto person will get a reverse gangbang by a bunch of Tantra see the goddess and he will want to transform United States into one giant orgiastic goddess Temple to heal the planet from all the patriarchy that’s my that’s my vote I’m going to put that are you trying to turn me on now I try I try not to but sometimes I can’t help it it just happens thank you for that well yeah so we it’s been one of the most delightful hours of my life at sharing this time with you and I’d like to ask you now to give us the links to everything that you want to share and that you’re involved with and close this out with some final words calls-to-action slogans from the front lines whatever you like to share please take your time. Thank you it’s been an honor and I’m I’m I’m pretty sure my cheeks are going to hurt from smiling too so that’s as wot USA. O r g basically you where you can find me I just would like to do everything I can and vegetation Security building in Albuquerque beautiful thank you awesome alright I see well yeah let’s let’s call it a podcast and let’s be in touch and I will I will be in touch again very soon thank you so much and have a wonderful evening. Smiley and you’re coming over here thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Cypherpunks, Bitcoin & the Myth of Satoshi Nakamoto by Richard Boase TPP127

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In this episode I’m blessed to have a guest spoken word piece by Richard Boase.  Since receiving some seed funding in the form bitcoins earlier this year, I have been on a mission of painfully OVER-due diligence to  catch up to the cryptocurrency revolution. It wasn’t clear to me until I discovered Richard’s article just how much of an intrinsic stake I’ve had in the game, and just how clueless I’d been over the last several years of bitcoin denial. In fact, my own punk and anarchist comrades of the crypto and cypher varieties had arguably already won the revolution in the early 90s that I’ve still been fighting in the streets for to this day.  It’s taken this long for me and the rest of the code-illiterate world to slowy, and perhaps less profitably,  join it.

I was infinitely grateful and intrigued to find Richard’s article because it puts it all into a riveting context and cuts through all of the financial speculative debate about bitcoin’s future, and sheds light on the radical and revolutionary spirit of the cause since the beginning.

Richard also has a great interview on the Let’s Talk Bitcoin podcast that helps clarify matters even more: https://youtu.be/5yZfOOqKnAg

Please follow him at:
https://twitter.com/boaserichard

Donate Bitcoins to him here:
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Read the original article here:
http://cybersalon.org/cypherpunk/

About Richard:

Richard W. Boase, born a Shell Brat under the banner of a monstrous Corporate Petro-Empire in Brunei Dara’salaam on the island of Borneo in the late seventies, is the atypical son of English scholars of linguistics and mathematics and the grandson of allied warriors.

An Uber Taxi Driver working Old London’s winding back streets to scrape a living who once blazed electric live-wire voodoo visions amongst the hot neon jungle of Tokyo’s crazed architecture, he is now no more than a prescient listener and scribe, a tantric craftsman and guide in a global psyche-sphere where Crypto-Buddhist souls drift endlessly around the peer matrices of photovoltaic cells on Terra, Sol Galactica.

He is alone.

Decrypting the Cyberdelic Revolution with Lorenzo Hagerty TPP126

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Lorenzo Hagerty PicIn this episode I’m joined by one of my favorite podcast hosts Lorenzo Hagerty of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. A dear friend turned me on to the podcast back in 2008, I binge listened to catch up and have been on board ever since.  Lorenzo’s endearing charm, sharp wit, and scathing critiques of the dominator culture all all of its systems have made me a big fan of the show. It was a great honor to be able to explore the depth of his personal life journey and discuss an array of crypto-anarchist and techno-shamanic histories and futures. Finally, we compare notes and speculate on some of Terrence Mckenna’s attitudes towards psychedelics and tantric spirituality.

After our discussion, I include a spoken word piece I recorded called “McKennisms” which is my reading of several of my favorite Terence Mckenna quotes from the many lectures on the Psychedelic Salon that I’ve taken notes on over the years.

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About Lorenzo:

Lorenzo Hagerty is currently best known as the host of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. He came to podcasting through a circuitous route that included being a writer, keynote speaker, and Internet/e-Commerce consultant. He holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Notre Dame and a Doctor of Jurisprudence degree from the University of Houston. His eclectic career also included being a sailing instructor, Naval officer, hot air balloon pilot, electrical engineer, and lawyer. In August of 2017 he celebrated his 75th birthday.

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Com and our journey together will begin hello Jay beloved’s welcome to Township on podcast episode number 126 I am joined by Lorenzo Hagerty the host of the Psychedelic Salon podcast and this is such a treat for me I must say because I have been a fan for many years now I’ve listened to the entire podcast backlog and it’s really the best curated sort of audio Museum of all things psychedelic guy that have been recorded an audio and it really is a treasure chest of information and an education entertainment and one of the best audio Archives of Terence McKenna’s talks amongst many other Visionaries and leaders of the Psychedelic movement different waves throughout the recent decades and Lorenzo has been that he’s always given bits of information about his personal life and and pathan story and it’s just fascinating everything has come through and so I really thought it would be great service to give Renzo a chance to just kind of consolidate and speak openly about his personal path and what led him to this world has been playing to curate all this content and its really a it’s really empowering and it’s itchy I get I just can’t thank you enough for Enzo for creating this resource in really holding a being a scribe and and holding the space for for the Psychedelic Society to really take hold this is scaffolding of it and so many people have to have been able to gain so much from your work in here with that said that if you just like to introduce yourself and then start wherever you want about your life stories just people can get it a good sense of your your personal Journey okay that’s the first Twilight I think we got to give all the thanks really to you know Terence McKenna Timothy Leary and all of the all of the speakers. Of planking aren’t they in their lectures to me this is a hobby to play their lectures and I put some of my commentary out there but the bulk of the information is all coming from these other people so you know I don’t deserve all the credit for that because I like listening to this stuff and I said well I’ll just play it actually I got into podcasting accidentally I I’ve been I’ve been giving some speeches or talks I should say at the various and Sundry conferences like mine States and and I’d started the Palenque Norte lecture series at Burning Man in a burning man has had one or two talks given before but I 2003 my wife and I built a whole series with Derrick Davis and Alex and Allyson grey and and Daniel pinchbeck and Bruce damer and a whole lot of people like that an extra middle lecture series out of it and that’s still going on I don’t I’ve been to Burning Man myself since 2007 but a bunch of younger people have picked it up and so the planking Norte series is going on and what has happened is is that first one back in 2003 I this is before podcasting and so I took the audio of that look it up in 2 hours of audio I broke it up into little 10 minutes segments of the files be small enough to download because you know there was no no procedure for it then and at the a mine States conference friend of mine said hey I’m going to start podcasting can I use your stuff from Palenque and I said sure and then after months went by and nothing happened I got a hold of me as well and I’m not going to do it after all I said well then you won’t mind if I do it because course not your stuff can I put the first one out and then the next one and the next one and and I was just really playing with the technology cuz I’m Kiki and over time it just started building and then it was came all got a hold of me and the dope fiend over in London and the three of us all three were doing podcast kind of reinforced one another in made it through actually came home and I are still podcasting a dope fiend has gone on to other things but it was really kind of interesting back in the beginning cuz nobody really know what podcasting was going to evolve into and I try to keep it as a hobby I’ve never even use Google ads on my site you know it’s I get donations from people from time to time is it it’s been enough to keep us going I’ve had in the beginning I had to put a little out of pocket but instead of break you in and so real comfortable and so it’s it’s a community thing and you know I don’t keep logs I don’t do advertising because a lot of our listeners are kind of young or their insensitive jobs like in the military or police force and track my Google and all these other companies so I tried to keep it clean that way but I never started out in the beginning of my life I I just turned 75 last week and it never occurred to me that in my old age I would be raised in the midwest now is what’s now Chicago suburb is a little town outside of Chicago and I was an Irish Catholic kid in a little tight box and I was born free baby boomer I was at War baby born in 1942 and so we were kind of stuck in that that awkward place to where your parents were the the depression generation and we wanted to please him I was the oldest son had one younger brother and and he got into the baby boom generation he came in 47 and we really had a lot of differences in the in the way we grew up in any vaults but I Tire I found myself at the age of 42 president of a computer company in Dallas Texas and I was an Irish Catholic Republican lawyer that was in nineteen Nineteen Eighty-Four when MDMA or at the time on the street is called ecstasy was legal and a lot of people are aware of it cuz ecstasy you don’t evolve into all kinds of names and Molly and stuff like that but the original pure MDMA hit the streets in Dallas of all places where it was used a lot on the west coast and therapy thousands literally thousands of therapists have been trained to use it in their sessions it was all legal and here I was in in the heart of the Bible of the Buckle of the Bible Belt and running a computer company in midlife crisis and stuff like that and the friend of mine got a hold of me and said hey have you heard of ecstasy and I said no what is it and I said well it’s a new drug that’s legal in Dallas where is all happening in so long story short mutual friends end up eventually became a drug dealer and I was using the sales of that to cash flow my computer company but it became legal and lot of things happened so I had to leave Dallas I went to Florida and lay low for a while but that was the beginning of my psychedelic career I was 42 years old Vietnam veteran lawyer Texas lawyer had never never smoke cannabis in. I was on the straight and narrow and then then I found MDMA and my life changed completely wow so what kind of what kind of something I found really fascinating as a flu season over the years is that you have a very strategic position to understand this these new dimensions of empowerment and decentralisation through web-based technology you’ve been a programmer or developer and there’s a lot happening in quote cyberdelic space to call when your terms then. I’m curious what what type of what was your path into Computing in your path into programming and development in and how is that in college I took I think we had two options take to computer course I graduated in 1964 and the computer that we learn 9 was an IBM 1620 it but I was just fascinated with computers but then you know after college I did a little quick stint as a stuntman in the movies and then I to dodge the I join the Navy and spent four years in the Navy and and yeah I was just on that track is in law school went back to finish law school practice law but all this time I was just fascinated with computers and so by this time I’m living up in Dallas working with a multi-level marketing company in and I had this I don’t think I’ve ever told I had this perfect system I thought to manage money while you’re playing craps and I wanted to I wanted to go to Vegas and beat the craps table but I needed a computer to test this thing out and this is mrs. before the the TRS trash80 before anything the Apple I think the apple one was out and I don’t think the Apple II and come out yet but I I bought it a salt 20 and head that soldered all together myself and and I programmed it and I started working on it and just one thing led to another and like I said I was doing multi marketing and I thought she you know these computers take a lot of explaining to tell people about it so I private labeled the exidy Sorcerer And started a multi-level marketing company in and I never got back to my project with a crap table and Stephanie I had had 3000 part-time Distributors around the country and you know I had a four-color picture and story in Forbes Magazine made the front page of the Wall Street Journal and then IBM got in the business and crushed us like a bug but so I was I was from then on you know I had to know I started my own computer company in then it went out of business along with a lot of us knew each other the beginning Ash is great fun and and I have no regrets about that and actually I’m kind of glad that we got forced out of the business because she is a real Cutthroat business but long story short after Many Adventures and winding up in Florida through a series of I became the Verizon I became their internet evangelist and I had first of all I had I’d started their first multi computer-based training CBT they hadn’t done any of that I put their first big manual on CD-ROM you know I did a lot of stuff I got into the end of of data services in wound up being the internet evangelist for the company and they just will be around the world to speak at conferences it was it was like the best job I ever had nice expense account lot of money I was single no girlfriend and I went down to this conference and Palenque Mexico with Terence McKenna Slater I left my job and I was living out here in the west coast so long story short Hunter wants told me they couldn’t help me because I had no career path and that’s really true you know I’ve been a electrical engineer and a lawyer and a computer programmer and a motivational speaker and a business owner a stuntman in the movies in the sailing instructor and a hot air balloon pilot commercial I got a commercial came Palenque and I came out here to California met my wife in Palenque and and I moved out here in July of 99 I took a leave of absence from Verizon and I just never made it back so I don’t know if I’m officially retired or not but can I complain about the phone company every bit as much as everybody else and I even did when I worked for him so but you know I was in the right place at the right time for many things for example in Dallas that was Ground Zero for MDMA and then when I got involved with the Verizon it’s when they bought BBM but bolt bernacki and Newman the company that built the first router and really started the internet 69 and so I got to work with and meet some of those people like the guy that came up with the at sign for email and stuff like that you know so I got to hear some of those old stories and eventually I wrote a book called The Spirit of the internet that is still may be the only book that talks about the internet is being a psychedelic experience because in many ways it is just means mind-manifesting and but you can trip on the internet to spend three days playing a game wow that’s amazing so you say you were transformed and brought it with you at all done a fine with hippie culture or environmentalism or anything I’m just curious what the what really soften and open your heart to Gaia the guy in mind and all of the Eco memes that that Terrance was famous for now. Did you have some kind of melting experience do Ayahuasca or trip to some beautiful place or just curious and I was always sympathetic to the the hippie movement in in high school I read beat literature I was big fan of the beets and and actually on hoses January 14th 1967 I was an Ensign in the Navy I was married had a three-year-old son and my ship was in the shipyard in Hunters Point which we had to drive through there are several times a week and then just had the major first big major US Senate race riot was in Hunters Point in October that year 66 anyhow I’m at morning January 14th is a Saturday and on weekends my now ex-wife and I would take our little boy down to the lake at Golden Gate Park to feed the ducks and geese and this particular morning we noticed a lot of lot of freaks and buy more people there that was the day of the BM and we left the parking around 10 I need to be in was wrong one it was little difference anyhow you know I knew that was going on and I was living in San Francisco at the time and it’s saying all these hippies and we were getting ready to go over to Vietnam and you know I’ve done enough reading to know that I joined the Navy to. Dodge the draft without the draft I wouldn’t have done that and here I was stuck with a four-year commitment the Navy and heading to war and seeing all these peace love and hippies that you know I never never forgot that feeling about boy did I make a wrong turn somewhere and so when I had my first MDMA experience in 84 and people don’t realize this and I’ve had almost everybody I’ve helped on their first experience say the same thing everybody’s expecting some kind of a you know freaky drug experience with every white Wavy Gravy lines and all but MDMA done right the first thing people say is you know I felt like this before it was when I was really young on a beautiful summer day or something like that and it brings you back to to that state and I was at a point in my life like I said I was 42 years old my company was having cash flow problems and marriage wasn’t as sound as it should have been and all of the stuff goes on at that point in somebody’s life hit me at the same time and then I found MDMA and it it was just such a transformative experience my my wife at the time and I start doing it together and and centrally is couples therapy I did it with some Vietnam vets and had some some therapy and I decided that I didn’t know how but this was an area of my life I was somehow going to pursue shoe and actually back then in in 86 I started corresponding with the Rick doblin even before he started Maps he was about the only person in that you can find who is standing up in public and talking about it at the time and I just kind of had a shirttail relationship to the the after I left Dallas to the whole scene a friend of mine live in the country house in Tampa at the time and a friend of mine live in the country in Outback in behind this house has helped field and the Cow Patties heavy little mushrooms growing on them so we had all kinds of magic mushroom trips and stuff and so at the time he was a couple years older than me in and we thought we were the only two people our age that we’re still doing psychedelics that’s how disconnected we were in the Mundo 2010 it was this article by guy named Terence McKenna now this is in in 1994 is the first time I’ve heard of Terence McKenna and he was in that Mando thing was several years later in 98 I was I got a bunch of junk mail and and there was just nothing from Omega Institute never is Terence McKenna you know I was single had money lot of vacation time so I went up to Omega to experience Terence McKenna and that was for real life experience in first conversation I had with him he said you need to go to Palenque and I did and change my life my wife was Charlie Groves research nurse for his psilocybin in the life study and she know she’s been she’s been going to Terence McKenna lectures since 1982 and we got quickly involved in a really good group of people out here in the coast and LA area call Kathleen work at a seminar us out of Salon Kathleen Salon is a third Friday of every month and in Venice and it was amazing how she had all kinds of people come and talk and you know it it reminds me somewhat of a what my vision of a communist cell meeting in Chicago in the 30s or something rash but you know one of the guys is there I’m blocking his name now but he’s the professor I forget where he’s teaching now maybe he’s on the East Coast but he was at UCLA and he’s the guy that wrote the medical marijuana law for the state of Washington which is a real tragedy I think I was very good job but the Gnostic Bishop from LA on night he shows up and he’s he’s this Old Gentleman and he’s he’s all dressed up the pretty fancy has a vest on a Watch chain and a real thick accent and and I thought this is going to be pretty boring and he starts out with his thick Hungarian accent and says LSD is the most important thing that ever happened to me so I met so many people through that salon and send Myron stolaroff and Myron was really one of the key figures in in the 60s that a book called what the Dormouse said give him credit with three other people for starting the whole personal computer Revolution his hand up it was running the Menlo Park Institute which was where over 300 oil 350 some people went through there but it was it was to take LSD two and can’ts creativity and most of the Homebrew Computer Club went through their the Xerox Parc people went through their the SR I went through all of these people in Silicon Valley Heavy’s LSD experiences but they did it so differently there then what’s going on today is that I think you had to go through several weeks of training before your LSD trip and you had to go out for some kind of therapy sessions and they gave him carbogen to to feel the experience and a short blast and garbage and something people aren’t aware of but it was was used back in the in the 50s and 60s in LSD research so that before a subject took LSD they would give him a carbogen trip and it says 75% oxygen and 25% carbon dioxide and I’ve never done it but apparently I’ve talked to both Myron and Duncan blue and to Jim fadiman and they say that it is a very much like maybe five or 600 mic Acid trip but it only lasts for a matter of minutes and you know you don’t know how to read you’re not going to get this information and so painting a mural in a community where the art is available to everybody and you can just stand in front of it and be curious feel sad feel happy feel whatever it is and ignite your curiosity for your own research that is insanely powerful and I know that because I have cried in front of murals I have taken pictures in front of murals at that made me realize something about myself and that is one aspect right off the the the massive descale Arts that can that can provide a message for an entire community in the other aspect is supporting these artists you know myself and then everybody else who I see struggling so much to do what they love and they’re so good at it and and disciplined enough wells in the right hands is an opportunity for us to fill up every single block of the chain you note for the artist to paint if that’s what they want to do the visual artist want a fan or the artist want to make music or the artist who I want to create experiences that are interactive and then for the people who are good at managing and just love discovering and helping and connecting to do just that and do not have to do all the other things and for the web developers to develop the west side I see just amongst my own friends and connections here how much energy and time we’re wasting by not working together and so the more people I meet in the blockchain crypto blockchain connection space the more I want to all of us to do our shows and commercials together because it makes no sense for everybody to be spending their energy resources in in building a website if you hate billing website you know like if you want to paint just paint and then we’ll find people to build a website for you and and I’ve encountered a lot of people fear based in this space who are all about competition and want to do their nails and they don’t want anything to do with other brands and then I encourage I mean I’ve encountered so many more people on the collaborative side and that’s where an archipelago what I felt that are not a couple, but I felt like ripping psychedelic people were down to connect and they said yes to all the projects and let’s get on a phone call and it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from if you want to help and it’ll I’m supposed to let you know and that is really refreshing and I think that’s the the Psychedelic or open-minded or meditation more expensive way of looking at this movement also go do you want to talk more about to just practicing meditation and what sort of how your your spiritual processes and maybe tips you have for people who are coming into here wanting to participate in this technology space and an actually starting to you know they say the first time you start to have some actual games in your cryptocurrency portfolio than I can say from experience I just want to give my life to the movement because it’s changed my life so much and I want to just be a service but I’m not a coder and I’m not really I’m kind of a wannabe geek so imagine making this cultural Ambassador you know doing that like if we were talking about him in franchising people you have said yes to Justin tips about what it’s like to be adapting to this new that mean you’re providing a platform for people to express themselves in your finding people like me who you know I’m nobody in this world and at the same time I very I feel like I’m a very important piece of the puzzle and I haven’t always felt that way my own SoCal you wasn’t where it’s at and I you know I need the others and you need the others and so you already doing so much and I really appreciate you reaching out and wanting to give a voice to people like me who maybe you’re not on the you know I feel like I’m behind the scenes a lot and now you can’t necessarily reach out to to you know I don’t know bigger a larger what it’s called platforms and say Authority terribly I need to speak on this or be on a panel specifically and yet at the same time so many opportunities like this have presented themselves to me like being on humans of Bitcoin or the libertarian Radio free talk live or your show and so many others and so it’s it’s such a beautiful synchronous synchronicity how we all find each other and I’m being hard open to supporting each other and that’s what it’s all about so to me when people ask me what is a blockchain artist what makes you a crypto artist or what how can I get involved in this way if I don’t have any coding skills or if I don’t have any if I don’t feel like a nerd at hard or any or if I don’t have any connection the truth is that most of the people that are even curious about this movement or that believe in Freedom are already a part of this movement you know what I mean and it’s just lack of Education or lack of information and lack of system or container though it’s being created right now and so anything that you care about and if you respect freedom and the evolution of humankind through compassion and love that is blockchain with me and I know it sounds really extreme for some people but it’s really is I mean if your yoga teacher you can download and secure whatever wallet of your choice I love Edge they you know they just upgraded to their shape-shifting converting application which I didn’t have before and I just downloaded it and it’s my favorite wallets I always recommend that you use in a hot while they’re on your phone you can just download something like that in three seconds and all of a sudden your yoga teacher who takes crypto you know what I mean it in Seoul I’m in this is what I do at my my events like that we have the exist festival.com for South by Southwest and is not an official South by event is a disruptive one because even though I love songs by and I painted a giant mural for South by that’s going to be showing at the Expo Center for Austin Rodeo I love what they’re doing so many ways they’ve also turn down quite a few female speakers for the blockchain panel and I don’t know enough about what they’re doing and I’m sure there’s reasons why everybody dusted the things I do but I think it’s important to set up other events are outside of the you know of the gates of South by in the rules and so on so that’s what we do at our events you know we set up a men’s where where we can bring in a bunch of artists who have never heard of a crypto before or who are interested in it and teach him how to download a wallet and then make their sales are there vending whatever they’re running t-shirts and arts and whatever in crypto in there you got like that’s all it takes so when I get on an Uber or Lyft or Rideshare I asked them if they take crypto and they look at me like I’m crazy then I showed them how to download the wallet and then I took them in crypto and when I go to any any local shop or any restaurant I just automatically always ask do you take pepto and they just look at me confused and then they ask and then I tell them and so it’s just word of mouth and that’s it very small way in which and how we can educate each other just ask about it as if it’s part of your normal life because to me and to you it is you know and so the more people we have on the system to better that easier we’re all going to to evolve within this I don’t know if the answer is exactly the question who want to just be ya be a part of the movement and and adapt and actually alter reality one day at a time just with whatever means you have you know yeah that’s exciting is that you know I’ve had I’ve had a similar kind of weather journey of just wanting to onboard friends and just get people excited about it and really the best way to do it is just to get them started with some in just a few or I’m going to split the mule and give you your you know percentage of Crypt or whatever and and that just gets that gets the party started for for anybody and I see why you’re talking I was imagining they’re being a i y bet there’s got to be some art galleries in the world that just give what is QR codes on every piece so in case you don’t want to buy it you can just tip the artist while you’re there be a white of all the art that I’m so like thrilled to behold in my eyes when I go to an art gallery I would go in there with a budget to tip all the all the artist that I thought really blew my mind you know that’s a whole number and thank you for saying that because I seriously have been wanting to make a video on this for so long thank you for reminding me I want I want all the spray paint artist mural is due to get a QR code stencil and so many times that I’ve been moved by a mural and I yeah you can buy it and you can buy a piece by the artist I’m just freaking said man like $1 a hundred people $1 and then you go home and the artist girl out in the world like how insanely amazing about education if nobody told me that I could do better if I wasn’t a part of this movement I would not have either. So yes I think every Gallery should have a key or code next to their pieces for sure and hopefully work making it easier and easier to have these things be more accessible and just like you said you know split a meal and pay in in crypto just like you would do with venmo or PayPal is very easy and another thing that I think is important to mention is that at first when Bitcoin came out in the early adopters now that Bitcoin was more like a Welsh holding system and still now you know it’s people assume that that you have to have a lot of money to get into crypto but I love the people at and dash dash people talked about this a lot and then cash and Litecoin you don’t fast transaction this is a system that I believe in I’m so tired of using Banks and I’m so tired of using Fiat I don’t want it anymore so I don’t actually hold its on a crypto I’m not at a point where my Abundant Life reflects in my in my wallet but I do get to use crypto every day to do my everyday things and every time a little more and so even if you just want to download a wallet and put 10 bucks into either or 10 bucks into like going or Dash or whatever your favorite currency is just put it there and do nothing with it and check it again in a month and see what happens or just how about you don’t have something like $100 and whenever you go do something if they take crypto you can transfer that and just start really small it’s it’s such a mountain of information that I can be very overwhelming I sign up for a steaming a couple a couple weeks ago and I’ve heard about steemit for for those of you who don’t know it’s a platform like it has all these different channels you can blog writing you can put up videos it’s basically a decent realized turn off all the social media that we use today so right now if you comment on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter or Instagram you don’t get paid for your value and reviewing people’s content but on steemit you basically get rewarded for being an active member of the community you get paid for voting for curating and you can receive a lot of steam power and crypto money basically for producing good content that is useful to people and it cannot be tamed innocence other than by the users and the population and so it’s a really amazing system in everyone’s use it for a long time but I was kind of intimidating by it finally I made an account into two and a half weeks to clear which is insane and and I’ve been getting super overwhelmed with learning how to use it and I just try to continue to watch one video day and do little things at a time and in no time I’ll be an expert you know that’s all it takes so just I hope that people don’t get over Round And if you’re curious just continue learning just a little bit at a time you don’t have to be an expert overnight exactly. I’m glad yes team is amazing and probably going to totally crush it on there just is it doing writing published his stuff it’s been specially in the crypto space is people that it’s amazing some of the mounts you can get off of that and it shows you how big data is really extracting so much value from users of platforms and it’s it’s it’s not going to be long before just because it’s free means that you just give them all your data and sign away the property rights and all that stuff is is going to be replaced by this micropayment ecosystems where people can support each other you know value in the content that they consume and and being really well well supported in and I think it’s going to do the asking to do a lot of amazing some of her friends yesterday we were talking about all them you know thousands of jobs disappearing as robots take over and Singularity and all the stuff and at some point in my life I was really concerned about this you know yet where are aliens off drivers truck drivers going to go when we have also if driving cars do you know all the stuff but the answer is blanching all these people will be doing things in blockchain I will be getting paid well for it and it’ll take less time and I mean from the Tim Ferriss 4-Hour Work Week on and everything. Having high developments off technology and be more efficient with our time does not mean that we is not does not need to be scary you know there’s a lot of stuff within fast Evolution that is that is concerning to me specially how fast were developing and growing and how our security initiatives are not all the party yet and I think we’re getting there so there’s a lot of concern of course but anyting however I don’t think that we all really grasp or we’re starting to now how how much we really don’t have to work 90 hours a week or whatever the ridiculous things we do you know that the whole point of this is that micro payments and micro contributions from everybody involved will react what time for us to to be humans to exist to just let me know this is such an interesting new development in the sort of f have that imprint of a techno dystopia since childhood from all the Sci-Fi and I watched it and then you know you imagine this world where humans are made up sleep by robotic technology and Ai and I’ve been pretty sure that those prospects especially now is drones of coming to the picture and now I really feel like it as of this moment this kind of is really the undeniable presence in the now of both of those dystopic seems coming coming nauseous to come to life but coming into existence but then as you’re saying which is actually so Redemptive for sheep the human soul is that like she was an example something might you might have some thoughts on as far as empowerment but it’s like the the sort of this myth of the scarcity of worthwhile productive labor that can be done with from picking up trash to planting trees to cleaning up toxic waste like through the blockchain micropayments and sort of micro temporary employment contracts that can really enfranchise all the homeless people to get a micro crypto payment without actually showing up and waiting in line to get in the welfare program or get into a you know some sort of job placement program you can just be like you know you show up on the there’s some spill like a whip there’s some kind of cleanup has to happen and people can just mop it and and have day labor crypto payments and there will really never be a gap between meaningful work and and fair pay and there’s plenty of wealth in the crypto world alone to finance stuff like that and even if you know whether it’s through a nonprofit system or through taxes done I mean I’m not going to endorse taxes in general but but you kind of know what I’m saying so how do you feel about that you feel like that’s the direction we’re going to go and there are so many projects that have mind-blowing for example the green miners are looking into mining basically with all green energy from turning trash into clean energy so that things like Bitcoin mining don’t have to take resources as we know them now and there are so many projects in the space for cleaning up the oceans and cleaning up the air and I’m bringing food to the right places and replanting trees and replenishing the soil I mean there if you think of any good initiatives going on in the world for every single one of them there is at least one crypto person who is trying to intercept and connect and there are some barriers you know like the the extreme hippies and I don’t mean that in any negative or positive connotation specifically just outside another word to use like the Crypt on earth and the cryptic Crypt of hippies and all these people like hippies like me back in the day when I when I was in Turkish hippie confused and all of this integrating technology and really scared of it I never imagined in my life that I would be here talking about technology I like but at the same time I see like you said you know how directly this has impacted my life I live a better life I can eat better food because I have my bills taken care of more often because I am connecting projects that feed my soul in that feed my pocket and and it’s just it’s just acknowledge he’s not going anywhere so yes hearing drones zooming around in the air concerns me especially there’s no privacy laws about this and I’m sure I am in plenty of videos just public random videos of people have of course all that is concerning to me but at the same time if I can get drones to massively plant trees and water them creating on cleaning water and stain of away and replenishing the Salt Lake of course I want that also so it’s a fine balance you knowing yeah there’s just there’s just so many opportunities and I’m a very hopeful first person you know and Technologies not going anywhere in the craziest disasters are going on in the world are very real and I’m very aware of my privilege and I’m honored for just being able to be a voice and a part of this movement in any way but if you are truly concerned if you’re a person sitting there and you are really really against technology my best advice to you is to get involved you know what I mean just get involved and make sure that our our moral compasses are still true and that our time is being used efficiently because while I think it’s piercing experiencing abundance is a really healing thing for our communities that happen monkey trained into scar City and fear so I think that having lavish parties in exotic places when they are led by the right Compass when we’re doing no trash Left Behind when we’re also feeding and in helping those communities those are beautiful experiences I think also it’s very easy to fall into the you know greedy egotistical side of things and so we can be people on the sidelines criticizing this movement or we can just Dive Dive Right In whichever way feels comfortable to you and try to help from within you know absolutely yeah amazing so do you want to take can you talk a bit about you know obviously not to be tokenizing but I was really thrilled to know that Amanda B Johnson is the spokes person for Dash and they have a sort of a in the dash consensus system they’re they’re holding their whole their whole technological platform on the basis of it there’s money allocated in there sitting there a crypto economic ecosystems to support people in in roles as delegates and Advocates and Educators and I’m I’m wondering if you have some thoughts on connecting with or have you connected with women in crypto and just having more solidarity and more initiatives that are women lead and women find it and having the the voice and the the wisdom of Sisterhood in the crypto space which is is seriously it’s I don’t know I wouldn’t say this that I understand to be hyper sexist or it’s just a typically gender imbalance in technology for various reasons of course and but this is one of the most inviting and open-minded for thinking space is so I’m just curious if you have thoughts understand that aspect I do and I just want to throw in really quickly that Dash is doing some incredible incredible things to use this new currency in the everyday lives of people and changing a lot I mean I spoke with Danny the other day from the Crypt of showing radio station and just some of the projects he shared with me that they’re doing going to orphanage orphanage is camping outside open and to defend that old homes and rebuilding after after earthquakes all of these weren’t the weather doing in Mexico and helping people from the US and for Mexico to send each other Dash instead of Fiat you know making it super useful super accessible for them and actually turning crypto into into resources are they need whether it’s a new fan for their ceiling or food or whatever and so they are doing a lot of work right on the ground and putting you know when ATMs in crypto ATM there just it is amazing to see this dystopian Society for good and bad is already here as completely I mean crypto is already being used in so many daily activities all the time so much more that we know and I know that documentaries are being created and they will be available to all of us soon and every time more but there is so much more happening than we even inside are aware of you know every time I talk with anybody is it blows my mind all the projects are going on in and that this is the Hood part of it is another one and there are all these telegram groups going around some of them are called crypto women badass women in blockchain you know he’s different name there’s this group on Facebook called crypto queens and I have found some amazing amazing humans are working with the UN and women investing in women and funding each other’s projects and the Miami Conference the North America Miami Conference Bitcoin conference I had this one person run up to me this woman and she said hi sister if you’re a woman here I pretty much want to connect with you and she added me to his telegram group and I stole that from her in the best possible way so every time I’m at any blockchain event I run up to the women and I said Hey sister if you’re a woman in the space I want to connect with you and it’s just so beautiful and so I may be 5 or 10 different groups that are all women in blockchain and art projects in blockchain it is it is really unbelievable I’m actually really excited for the South by Southwest there is a bunch of the crypto Queens are coming down we’ve been talking about doing a documentary about women in crypto and I just hope that I get to interview them 10 minutes with each one in super supportive so it’s been quite interesting and of course there is still competition with in here and there but for the most part I find that women are really supportive of each other I also have been working with swarm City and the storm funds quite a bit I meant Joel from Joel Dietz from swarm and we talked about a bunch our projects and all the stuff happening and you express a lot of interest in supporting both blockchain art projects and women equality so I know swarm is now sitting around the survey to try to make sure that there are as many women as men users and their platform that’s really exciting and also so many surveys about how they want the tokens to be used and so on are hungry to include the community that’s what’s Tim Meadows all about right and that’s what these events are all about so I think I think we’re doing pretty good so far and I see how much more collaboration is going to is going to start happening you know just from from these telegram groups and how excited everybody is and and also how cool is that that we have telegram instead all our messages so that the government can hover information are private conversations it’s just it’s amazing we weave I feel sad about the fact that Facebook and all these social media platform orny or Cuban connection you know I honestly have so many thoughts where I say I don’t care if Facebook knows all my information or if they own all my media I just want to be able to share photos of my friends in Argentina and this is the easiest form so how sad is it that we were okay with all of our privacy and information being exploited and people making money off of us just because we’re so starved for human connection so I’m really excited to be able to do the same things we’ve been doing and use the good parts of Technology like social media in a way that it also filled up our pockets and our Spirits you know that is music to my ears thank you so much I’m so glad that I I mean I just just the fact that your video came up right after cryptos news and we’re in this moment have his conversation this is all such beautiful music to my ears and yeah it’s been I mean in my field in the world of Tantra sacred sexuality sexual healing in just the I think the most important thing in my studies in my experience for healing a planet and really saving the Earth is really being instrumental and being conducive to two women Sisterhood and a healthy positive empowering way and actually creating more financial Independence so that women as mothers can have more freedom and power and actual means to make more independent decisions with their bodies with their with their you know how they how much even breastfeeding I mean the most people don’t know that it’s pretty much understood that about 5 years is a typical pre-industrial young length of time to be breastfeeding infants on demand and imagine the kind of infrastructure changes that have to happen for that to be possible in the modern world but if anything’s going to make it happen it’s going to be the fruit of the work that people like you were doing and that’s as you know might just sort of Public Service Announcement about you know a sort of futuristic crypto feminism you know that I said that I want to contribute to I want to see happen is this more and more working together and in collaboration So yeah thank you for helping with that and Centric energy and learning some teachings of something that it’s pretty recent to me maybe two years and there’s so much to learn and I found so much healing and in all of these intersections of psychedelics meditation 10 trick work and crypto and it’s it’s so bizarre and no way to talk about technology and evolution and money in the same line that we talked about psychedelics and in self-healing love and all of this to no life force of energy but it is all the same thing it’s it’s just growing us a more compassionate and accepting loving human race you know that’s what it’s all about and at the same time that I’m really excited about all of these blockchain as a vehicle for 4 change I am really concerned about Wi-Fi and radiation and you know of course all of these a chemtrail crazy stuff that we put ourselves through so I’m putting out the intention into calling for more people to get involved in to figure it out other ways to connect the other internet in a way that it’s not so destructive for us and so there’s not some natural solutions and then there’s simple things we can do like turning off wi-fi at night when you go to sleep and self-education on this on this topic but I would love to hear more like I said Solutions and privacy are are something that we are now noticing that we need to work on more at the same time that we develop all these amazing systems right we need to wear we’re kind of like it’s floating and all this magical ways and now we need to start creating the containers that will keep us a lines into our missions as well yeah absolutely absolutely awesome well yeah I’m getting about 2 or if you’ll just totally mind blown and totally satiated by learning all this stuff all this great stuff that you’re doing do you feel free now to take some time to promote your efforts and talk about we have coming up in the future will people can be looking out for and and yeah we’ll we’ll call it a good introduction to hopefully we can also keep in touch on going up next and that is the exist festival.com that it’s a beautiful project where we are just connecting more and more people doing similar events and hoping that we can continue to collaborate so if anybody’s interested in anything that we’re doing please reach out there’s room for you to be fully creative in your own way and like I said it’s not about competition the abundance is there and in so many ways so that is South by Southwest Austin and then we have token Fest in San Francisco I will be there as well and then we have an art party in the bay somewhere so all this information will be on social media that is at my new brakes on Twitter or breaks on Instagram and I wanted to mention. So I most recently connected with gel polish and he’s doing art for addicts and he has a lot of projects going on in that world so I’m really excited to get more involved in healing the process of healing ourselves through ART and handling addiction because I believe technology is also an addiction right so being able to create those containers again and also few initiatives for the cleaning up the oceans and ocean token and just so many good projects coming up so anyway that I can that I can help or help you connect with those who will get you to where you want to be the green miners we clean energy any of that please reach out to me I would love to help out cool thank you again so much now Newburgh city has been such a pleasure and yet again thank you for just allowing me to be impulsive and send a message out to you and get you on the show and to know also that your ear integrating some the tantric wisdom in and works into your life it’s so exciting and I agree this is all just one big Kundalini blockchain Bliss Bellini black seamless hashtag that will be in touch in the future and thank you again so much sounds good thank you so much have a beautiful night. 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