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The Path of a Bisexual Tantric Rock Star with Robert Ozn TPP122


Robert Ozn PicIn this episode I’m joined by the vibrant and charming Robert Ozn. He is one of my dearest bisexual allies in the modern tantra movement. We have similar visions of an inclusive non-binary pansexual tantric future where infinite diversity can be expressed and cherished within the fellowship of sex positive spiritual seekers. We learn about his outstanding career in the music and film industries, how he has explored and evolved his sexuality and relationship styles, and how he has been of service to the often still marginalized bisexual community.

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After a 26-year absence, L.A. based DaDa NaDa’s comeback record Je Suis Paris/I Am Orlando, a tribute to victims of terror, hit #13 on the U.K.’s Music Week Dance Chart in October 2016. Released on his own label, DaDa Nada Records and featuring his huge, impassioned vocal range, Je Suis Paris/I Am Orlando, was a staple that fall on four Gaydio (U.K.’s largest Internet radio station) programs and a huge banger in LGBTQ & straight clubs alike. “I’m humbled that with so many odds against it – no corporate money or promo machine – the track made it. I call it The Little Record That Could.”

DaDa NaDa’s follow-up, We Can Feel It, written & produced by DaDa NaDa and Steve White, with its first set of mixes by House of Virus (House), Mntna (Deep House) and Middle Eastern, Number One iTunes sensation Aman (Pop Mix), releases in September 2017. The lyrics reflect the mystical, spiritual aspects of love – a theme which DaDa NaDa’s ardently explores as he is an out bisexual, living a polyamorous lifestyle and has been a devoted student of eastern religious practices for most of his life.

Impassioned about LGBTQ rights and BiPride, he was an honored participant in the Obama Administration’s 2016 White House Briefing on Bisexuality and stands as the Chairperson of the Los Angeles Bi Task Force. In June 2017, LA Pride’s #ResistMarch featured him in a video shown to over 100,000 protesters, a first for a Bi+ leader in that event’s 45 year history.

DaDa NaDa – solo moniker for Robert Ozn – was a former Broadway actor and the vocal half of New York, 80s synth-pop duo EBN/OZN, early pioneers of the now commonplace elements of music sampling and white rap, who are widely credited as making the first commercially released and charted record ever made on a computer (a Firelight C.M.I.) in the USA, the self-written and produced Top 20 Billboard Club Chart AEIOU Sometimes Y, produced in 1982/1983 (Elektra), remixed by John Luongo. Garnering accolades from critics and fans alike, AEIOU shot him into bona fide rock stardom.

After an MTV and Top 40 Billboard Dance Chart follow up, Bag Lady, whose video starred Emmy and Tony Award winner, Imogene Coca, plus a Top 20 College Chart hit album Feeling Cavalier, EBN/OZN disbanded.

Under the alias DaDa NaDa, he first broke the Billboard Top Five in 1989; with the Hip-House hit Haunted House, remixed by Chicago based Mike Hitman Wilson. According to MTV News, it was the first House record by a white artist to ever cross over to a commercial chart in the United States. “The 80s/early 90s were a magical window when the U.S. music business’ racial barriers blurred. It was an amazing, creative time.”

The follow-up, Deep Love, remixed by the Godfather of House Frankie Knuckles & David Morales and Bad Boy Bill also a Top Five Billboard smash, turned him into a darling of the American and U.K. music press with Music Week Magazine covering him in a feature entitled The Wizard of Ozn. The Knuckles/David Morales mix featured that same sensual DaDa NaDa baritone on We Can Feel It. “Frankie had been supporting my music in the early days when I did eccentric rap/spoken word and to have him push me as a singer gave me a new level of confidence. I’ll always be grateful.”

More hits followed, but things went very wrong during his US tour that year – a shooting interrupted his show in Chicago and he started feeling a break from music was in order. That break lasted 26 years – working in the Hollywood film industry as a script analyst for major directors and film companies, as well as writing and producing films. “When I returned to music last year, I had no idea how I’d be received. I have to admit, I was trepidatious. But people – audiences, DJs, PDs – have been amazing – so welcoming, so warm and most important, they’re playing my music. I feel like I’m coming home.”

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 122 I’m being joined by Robert Rosen he is a top 5 billboard recording artist produced screenwriter Broadway actor tantric initiate and bisexual activist that amongst many other lovely and beautiful things that we met now it’s been almost that’s a couple years through the LA Tantra Meetup community and really hit it off on wanting to share a vision and kind of construct a Visionary and an archetype of a Vuitton trick Rockstar or a tantric Stage production stage show that could actually transmit the the shaktipat energy to the masses or to the the secrets which in the message and let there actually be a more intentionality and more education in and conducting of the sacred energy True Modern electronics and other forms of music and that’s just sort of been something that we cross paths in our in our music things and that’s just the tip of the iceberg cuz you’re going to really enjoy hearing his background he’s got some amazing really deeply profound accomplishments and Anna level of authority and experiences just mind-blowing so I am deeply honored to have a separate entity to have this this talk and then looking forward to it for a while so with that said Robert thank you so much for joining I can’t wait to take it away thanks so much for that intro been where do I I send you the check for that grade hype up job I’ll take Bitcoin Bitcoin pretty soon it’s the adult crypto-currency that you’re doing the show it’s funny I got interested in Chandra so many years ago when I was around 18 19 years old and I had such a difficult time trying to get any information that’s before the internet even existed in I am you know what go to spiritual bookstores and if I got lucky I’d find you know a translation of something like an ancient Tibetan or Hindu text but you know course I was just looking for the good pictures and keeping dammit and you know but over the years slowly slowly I started being able to find some kind of training and now it’s amazing to me to see how how much it’s you know begun to infiltrate infiltrate you know our Western society and you know I’m pleased to see it because it’s it gives people a different point of view on sharing energy and love between two human beings and and sex and you know I think the study of Tantra brings a lot of value to people’s lives so I’m I’m happy to see it’s beginning to Blossom I was in the Arts from the time I was a little little boy I I sang in the New York City Metropolitan Opera when I was 10 years old 11 years old I was in it for two seasons I sang I’m in the last opera of the old met which was I think it was in the 40s on the west side of New York City and and then I was in the first opera first performance of the new met in Lincoln Center my father told me my career was downhill from there text Dad but it was a pretty cool experience as a kid to do something like that you know first of all you got out of school to go to rehearsal so that was amazing when you were in junior high school but I I really just knew who I was and what I wanted to do and that was sing and I went I want to Music Conservatory Indiana University School of Music gets its world-renowned for its vocal program and I stayed there for two years and then I got a job singing for The Tonight Show band on the road so I left the conservatory when I was when I was 19 and Job Lots to my parents Chagrin but I was very happy I was working with Incredible Jazz musicians you know snooky young Doc Severinsen Lucha back in Buddy Rich Ed Shaughnessy these are people that had played with everybody from you know count bass D to Louis Armstrong much older guy and The Tonight Show job for jazz musicians was a prized job because they could they could record during the day and have a normal life so the competition was a huge for that gig so they would get the best jazz musicians really in North America I was such an honor to work with those guys it’s kind of an all of them really at my young age and so I told them for a while and then I got a job in the musical theater working with a guy named Zero mostel I don’t know if some of your listeners know who he is if any of your listeners are movie freaks they might know a movie called The Producers Gene Wilder and zero mostel it’s a hilarious movie and jaw so I did a Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum was 0 and again I was 19 and that was an experience of a lifetime working with someone that old and that experience and that much of a genius on stage was completely outrageous if an audience member was late he would literally shout out as loud as he could stop the show stop the show Turn On The Lights someone’s late Excuse Me Miss you do realize you’re late then you should start asking the audience what time it was and I mean this was Theodore this was not a stand-up thing you know these poor people would be so embarrassed it was it was a real learning experience and I did that for oh I don’t know maybe five months on the road and John and then I got my first Broadway show and you know that was a dream come true for me to have a part in a Broadway show and that’s when I first had an experience of trying to lead an alternative lifestyle I had a girlfriend at the time and then I met a woman in the show I was so very young I was 20 21 and time she was in an open relationship she was older than me and I thought that sounded very logical to me and I wanted to explore that so this was back in the day before the book The ethical slut was written before polyamory was a word it was just cold open relationships back then no one knew what they were doing you know we all hurt each other’s feelings terribly we didn’t have a clue how to structure anything so it was kind of a disaster really but I lived that life stuff for pretty long time add you know in my naivete and and lack of knowledge I tried to make it work and I really couldn’t so I gave up on that and also around the same time I realized I was bisexual and this was before AIDS so in the era of David Bowie and Mick Jagger and glam-rock being bisexual was very cool it was like oh I don’t know nowadays like going to the right coffee shop it was considered a bold thing to be into Explorer and there wasn’t really a stigma attached to it at least not in you know the big International cities like Paris or London or New York and I lived in New York and you know I was in the entertainment business so it was you know very well accepted my LED I let a bisexual lifestyle really all the way up until about the mid-80s and I never was romantically attracted to men just sexually but I was both romantically and sexually attracted to women switch didn’t really confuse me maybe a bit but I was pretty cool with it I didn’t really think much about I just accepted it as a fact but then aged came along and overnight the world changed it was no longer cool to be bisexual it was decidedly uncool to be a male bisexual people right away assumed that you might be carrying an illness and I won’t say I went in the closet but it was not information I volunteered if I was asked you know I would State my identity but I definitely down plated and I tried monogamy again and I was in a marriage that lasted quite a long time about 10 years and I was monogamous in my marriage I I didn’t cheat I’m in my marriage end you know when it fell apart of course things changed but that was I thought me being honorable you know being a man that’s stuck to his word and I look back on it and go I wonder if we would have perhaps broken up sooner in a more healthy fashion or perhaps even had a healthy relationship if we not been monogamous because we were so driven to codependents that and it wasn’t it wasn’t a healthy situation Angela I don’t think the monogamy really helped anyting frankly beautiful and I passed the test if you will if it if the test is called can you keep your word but but it didn’t support it didn’t support a healthy rapport which is what it’s what it’s meant to do you know so in the mid-eighties I I transitioned out of the musical theater I I was in another Broadway show I was in another very big chore and Karla DeVito if people remember meatloaf love on the dashboard she was the singer for meatloaf you know that you’re does incredible duets with him and so I was in Pirates of Penzance with her she’s an amazing talent that that woman can sing anything really Phantom that was great fun for me because I was classically trained but from the time I became a professional in my chains I never got to use my classical training I was either singing musical theater or pop music or jazz music and I finally got to some classical and I I loved it was great fun our producer was a man an Infamous man in the American Theater World cold John Kenley who was a rumored hermaphrodite and Mr Kenley as he was called you had to call him mr. Kenley dress like a man in the summer in a woman in the winter and lived in a middle-sized city in Ohio it might have been Akron or Dayton or someplace like that and this man lived like this through the 60 seventies eighties nineties I mean he was a character and a bold courageous human being tube to do that back then and get away with it and remarkable theater producer and I was a punk rocker in a classical in a Gilbert and Sullivan light opera he knew who Karla DeVito was and I replace Robby Benson who got a movie so he didn’t know who I was I was hired at the last minute and I walked in the door and when he saw me in all this punk rock stuff with earrings at eyeshadow and you know dyed white blond hair and you know I look pretty tough he said oh my God who’s that they said Willits it’s your Henry what that that that punk yes mr. Kenley yes that that waiting to hear him sing he’s he’s really quite good oh my God thank God he’ll be in costume thank God he’ll be in a costume we can’t have already in Sissy That the varsi hersel eye Saginaw area and I hear this voice in the back of the house how can you sing like that and look like that well it was just he just couldn’t get his head around it you know that I look like Johnny Rotten and I say what is Sid Vicious did my way and he sounded like a real pet rainbow coo his right exactly really he just he could not get his head around it at all it was pretty hilarious end so let’s see where am I so I eventually made a transition into the music business because I was I was not happy in the musical theater the musical theater back then was in a in a rough place it a lot of the traditional musical theater writers were trying to write 1950s early 1960s style shows and they really did not interest me I mean Oklahoma and Guys and Dolls I mean those things are chestnuts they’re amazing their masterpieces but you know they were written in the 1950s or 40s and I just felt like in the 80s why wasn’t somebody trying to write you know new sounds and you know there were a few I’m not saying there were none there were there were a few but they were very few and far between and the producers and the critics were very scared to pop music the critics turn their nose up at top music they were very snobbish about it but ultimately completely out of touch with what was happening culturally in America anthem so I went into the music business because I wanted to you know stand or fall on my own creation you know not be just an actor interpreting somebody else’s work and also subject to a director’s vision cuz if the director’s Vision was fantastic well then you were in luck you know you got to ride the wave of someone’s phenomenal Vision but if his vision was not up to par then you were in deep shit because you had to reflect is Concepts his interpretation of characters is a picture of what you should do and if it didn’t work will then you were really screwed and I didn’t both you know I’d been in I’d work with terrific people and horrid people and I just said you know I’d rather take the risk myself because the whole thing’s a crapshoot anyway so I started writing my own music and you’ll get a kick out of this the first song I ever wrote and recorded was a hip-hop while it was a rap song it was before Hip Hop was hip hop it was just gold rap music then and was probably the only white person I knew that was trying to shop a rap tape to record companies in 1980 and you know I think there’s a cassette tape somewhere I’ve got to find that I got to find that it would look at me like I was out of my fucking my they would go it’s a what it’s really good and it really was good it was kind of a funny rap song and end the record company’s first of all back then they didn’t get rap at all they all thought it was what’s called novelty music meaning something eccentric and offbeat that ended their view isn’t quote real music and they thought it would be short-lived in a little did they know and this was even R&B Departments of the major labels not you know not just the rock Apartments I’m so the only people putting out rap music in the early 80s and even into the mid-eighties was Indie labels hip-hop labels and of course they had the last laugh on everybody because you know they went Mega platinum and then the majors had to come around but nobody wanted to hear rap records for me so I meant a computer freak named Ned leaving it would build his first recording studio when he was 14 he was you know nowadays A Nerd back then if the word existed it wasn’t complimentary it was derogatory and you know the world’s changed which is great and he was a total Tech geek and a brilliant musician so by the time he was 19 or 20 he had a functioning for rent professional recording studio in New York you know the Talking Heads work there The Ramones work there you know he he really had great Studio chops can I have this crazy rap record and a mutual friend introduced us because Ned was working in music that sounded kind of like Kraftwerk and the only people that even did anything remotely like that in the United States where New York hip-hop people I’m sampling stuff and yes this is before sampling it’s when it first started anti why does a DJ named Africa Bambaataa who likes Kraftwerk and he’s kind of credited with bringing Kraftwerk to the hip-hop world and he he did a record called Planet Rock which had a very German techno influence to it was a huge huge RAF record all around the world and so I played in my rap record and he played me this track and I went I really like that and I just started ripping this story in a kind of rap spoken word staying over the track and he really liked it and it became our first record and it was cold aeiou sometimes y and it was the story was a true story about me meeting a Swedish girl having a cappuccino and Lincoln Center and I started talking to her and we became lovers and it was a story of how we met and what happened that day and and the theme of it was about how difficult real communication is with people how it’s so impossible to really communicate with anybody and it wind up being a huge MTV record and it was signed by a major label so at that moment I was considered a rap artist even though as the years went by nowadays you might not call that a rap record you might call it more spoken word record but back then it was considered a rap record and Hip-Hop didn’t come into being for another couple years and that was an amazing experience of course you know being a rockstar like who who could ever imagine that actually happens to anybody it was such a freak out man it happened so fast then we didn’t even have a name for the ACT we made this crazy record when we played it for record Executives they either fucking hated it I mean hate it but they would turn it off in the middle they would just say I mean we’ve did we hear things like I don’t get it literally just like I don’t get it or not for me or they would say oh my God that’s amazing but my boss won’t like it like they get too scared cuz it was so left field but this well-known impresario named oh God is named went right out of my head for a second it’ll come back anyway this well-known Liv promoter New York and see me in a small movie and said to me hey if you ever need any help in the music business I will help you I think you’re great and I was like oh I was like wow that’s so nice I might take you up on it one day so perhaps it was two years later I called him and said remember me and God bless this guy he did and he said okay I’ll help you and he gave it to somebody who gave it to the new chairman of the board of election records and dumb we get a phone call the guy thinks you your records gray and we were so excited really you say he’s got a reputation for liking crazy left-field shit he’s the guy that signed Devo wow so he’s going to like your stuff and I was like okay so we go in there with this lawyer we barely knew and he was representing us this guy we walk in and it was right out of a movie he’s standing on his desk with our record Turned Up full blast up to 10 and he’s dancing to it I love this fucking record man oh my God man that you know and he’s like singing along with the car is and he’s doing all these corny dance moves and I mean we’re looking at each other is he on something is he not on something like what are we supposed to do and the lawyer smirks it us would like the cat that ate the canary kind of smirk I realized that mine the lawyers letting us know you have a deal I mean I I just saw into space you know I could see it and never looked at me and smiled was like holy shit that did this is going to be a record deal meeting and he keeps the thing finishes tells us to sit down and he’s got all this really expensive art around the office he I found out later he was a very well-known art collector and I mean sculptures Pottery you know oil paintings it was really quite something and he starts to tell us how much he likes it and he asked us our plans and in the room he gives us a record deal then he gives us a video deal and at this point the lawyers like what okay I mean he lost his guys of being you know the cynical hard as he started getting shocked well and just a CEO’s name is Bob krasnoo he says to the lawyer and I’m going to give him an album deal and the lawyer exclaims on only one song like that Eagles on only one song and His Hands fly up in the air and he knocks over this really told Vaz that was on a pedestal must have been a four foot high bars he knocks it over the floor and it shatters and Bob Kraft no space goes white I’m the lawyer goes oh oh oh don’t worry Bob I’ll pay for that and cries and goes I don’t think so it goes no no no I’m good for my word I’ll pay for it he goes he goes what what is it what is it he goes That’s a Ming Dynasty vase that’s probably worth 165 Grand to go White Knuckles and Eliza flowers a Believer because if you’re going to it’s going to come out of your dog and he paid for by the deal by the the revenue generated from the boy you learn fast then it is the music business at least the old music business so then we go back to the guy’s office and he goes you need a name cuz we don’t even have a name and his name was Ned leben and my name was Robert Rosen and Eagles I don’t know the lawyers like I don’t know we’ve been Rosen and we go now we can’t do that man that sounds like a podiatrist office you know enough she goes yeah yeah I guess you’re right and we sit there we got listen list of shit we meet with them every time I’m even the Muse like bugging us about the name then finally one day Ned goes why don’t we drop the first letters of our last names solymon Rosen becomes even ozan and then will spell it weird and take out some vowels I went I don’t know that’s kind of weird. Come on man, he won’t give up on you and then now cut to like two weeks later and the lawyers got the contracts and there’s the special document in the contract in record deals where you have to guarantee you are the artist name and you’re signing the artist name distribution rights to the record label for. Of time but the thing is blank cuz there’s no name in The Wire goes guys you got to give me a name sonesse I can come on come on even I wasn’t even knows I go okay alright alright even I wasn’t even though I wasn’t so leben Roseanne l i b e n r o s e n became ebn Eben ozen ozn and that’s what it was so put out the record and the video was truly a hit it was just one of those cool things it just kind of made it on its own you know and so we started getting all these press interviews ever on MTV one day and they’re interviewing us and they do kind of like what we’re doing here you know they they talk to you for quite a long time but because of their format they only pull out little 10-second snip and then maybe you know they might pull out to 10 seconds 330 seconds and then maybe they’d have like a couple of 3-minute sequences and they play them at different times during the day you know and so they said where did Eva Nelson come from and I told him the truth I said well it’s really leaving Rosen but we were scared it would sound like a podiatrist office and the woman who was the MTV interview her name was Martha Quinn she crap cracked up on camera she started laughing so of course during all the interview were talking about all the technical stuff for the music all the Soulful stuff for the lyrics all our intellectual Concepts about flawed communication and human interaction what did they use over and over that use me being a wise guy going it sounds like a podiatrist so the chairman of the board season MTV and he gets Furious and he sends out a memo to the entire record company including us and the lawyer and says from now on no fresh or any publicly distributed material will refer to even those in as Ned leaving in Robert Rosen it is even has him and he calls us up if he goes what’s wrong with you guys you guys are sex symbols you can make jokes like that you’re going to ruin your image okay man so we could only be called that so the name stuck so we were even us from then on and I that reminds me of the Bible that talk about change the name to Ritchie Valens yes yes that’s right yeah so we turned out we didn’t realize it at the time but we had made the first record ever made on a computer in the United States that was released commercially we knew we were cutting edge but we didn’t realize we were that far ahead of everybody else it was made on a fairlight CMI which was a music sampler and they were incredibly expensive machines you know they ran in the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars and only may be just a few years later roll and started putting out samples that were like five thousand bucks and that changed everything and then sampling became very popular but up until then it wasn’t popular cuz it was too expensive and too complicated but we used to make our own samples and it wasn’t something you know there was no such thing as a library now you buy it you can buy a library of sounds so we would literally if we wanted a percussion sound we might take go into the kitchen and take two pans and bang them together and then he Q it differently and stuff like that you know or if you wanted to sound like a human voice I stand in front of a microphone ago and you know weed mess with the Saturn make it sound Erie or Bazaar and it was incredibly time-consuming you know it would take you could take hours to make one sound especially drum sounds they were very hard to do you had a sample them from real drums and you know you had to have a great engineer who knew how to make the drum and you know but there was a revolution after that when people started having sample libraries but you know we really were ahead of the pack and the other people who had done it probably the first in the world was Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush gave me to record on a computer a year before us and England I can’t remember the name of it but it was also one of fairlight CMI Peter Deb was Peter Gabriel’s favorite instrument to work with and so we you know we really Pioneer Dwight rap and and computer sampling I don’t know really early time and I was trying to be it was very strange been I live this crazy like Rock and Roll Lifestyle but I had this deep desire to be quote normal because I had such a fucked up childhood so I really wanted to have a you know monogamous relationship in I would say Do The Artsy Bohemian version of the white picket fence and I had this image in my head that I’d be happy doing that and you know I really did try to do that and it was it it just was very unhappy time for me cuz it was not something I was I was going to say wasn’t cut out for I don’t know that that’s the way to say it I was a square peg in a round hole you know and I didn’t realize that in order to be true to myself I had to find a relationship structure that fit me I kept doing it backwards and trying to fit me into a relationship structure and I think that’s the biggest mistake people make in relationships and in love and sex that we’re all brainwashed we’re all brought up a certain way to believe relation does a correct way to do it is the right way to do it and the right way is pretty much it’s pretty much one way and the only difference might be extremely conservative fundamentalist religions have one picture of this right way and more Progressive liberal open-minded people have a different version of it but it’s still the right way it’s still a traditional monogamous way and dumb I think for tens hundreds of millions of people they I’ve never even understood that there’s actually an alternative option to that an end that alternative option use whatever works for you and it’s whatever works for your partner or Partners that’s the relationship that works and trying to force yourselves into a structure that’s untenable for you emotionally personality-wise logistically you know a myriad of ways is a very sad thing and you know horrible divorce rates and unhappy marriages and so I got divorced and I I had put out my my synth-pop Duo even knows and broke up I kept working in dance music cuz I love dance music and I started making house music in the late 80s and I was what I guess you might call the second wave of house if the first way was in the mid-eighties real real Underground anybody was listening Who would know Frankie Knuckles and people like that or Dwayne in the mix Mike Hickman Wilson Bad Boy Bill. These are all guys from like Chicago and Detroit they were kind of the Vanguard of this whole thing and I got into it in the late 80s but ice but I approached it not from a as a DJ which is what these guys were I approached it like a songwriter so I was writing house songs that became house records and come can we be so what cause can we get zoom in a bit on the the even odds and break up what could have brought down such a meteoric rise I mean I know what happens actually it’s kind of quite common that successful put too much strain on interpersonal relationships but I’m just curious if there’s a you know any notes about that teaching points I think what caused it was the terrible pressures put on people that are very young with big success so fast and the pressure is caused by huge corporate machines I mean these are international corporate machines that you’re dealing with and I am not blaming them at all I really mean that I don’t it’s just it goes hand-in-hand I mean you’re a product you’re a product at the machine needs to be fed add job I think it was something I certainly didn’t understand I think even understood it better than I did but I didn’t quite get I didn’t get the macro of what was going on and so I think the pressure got to us we had personal falling outs and unfortunately we had representation who wasn’t able to kind of referee us and keep us together and that’s really what good managers need to do when bands go through that because all bands go through it it’s a given and experienced managers know how to keep the band together you know and we didn’t have that well and I think both even and I years later realize that it didn’t have to I didn’t have to break up and you know he died very young which is very sad and if he’d not passed away so young I think even and I would have worked together again and dumb it was a great creative collaboration I I truly miss it it was really magical well well thanks for you have putting in that extra bitter I feel like a did life coaches are a big thing but 6s therapist it sounds like are equally is not more important to sustain success once it comes as I think too that I think there’s certain pitfalls that are unique to Young recording artist there’s just some really predictable potholes that you’re going to step in and you know hopefully the people that are around them can guide them around the potholes but you know the tabloids make a lot of money watching them fall into the bottom hose Ray you know yeah that’s too bad do you care if Justin I’m not to take it too far track right now but I’m just curious what is a lot of what you’re saying that’s good for civil potholes at that have a lot of it has to do with aspects of carving up the ownership rights and just the equitability of the resources coming in and who’s the front person and who’s sort of in the shadows and the song writing credits and stuff the Eagles absolutely all of the above I mean some of that we were able to work out ourselves anyway but that that’s the kind of thing that can happen in bands songwriting credits who gets paid what who’s who’s in the spotlight who’s not all that you know and some bands survive that that process and some bands don’t you know you look at a band like U2 and they’ve been around for you know decades now and I’m sure they went through it but they have somehow survived it and I think one of the ways you two survived it as they present themselves like a band you know Banos the front man but they the way they’re promoted is it’s always promoted like a band and and I think that’s imperative you know same thing with the Rolling Stones you know it’s always promoted like a band not Mick Jagger you know or Keith Richards cool so yeah yeah yeah if you want to keep going along a timeline this is riveting and I’m really enjoying just makes me feel nostalgic for the 80s I started having a success as a house artist and the mid-eighties in New York was a time of where the race is all mixed together in the studios it was a very magical time in London and New York there was something called new music or art art rock new music they called it nowadays the class of I even I was in his new wave and that’s not accurate we were Post New Wave but this new music staff was very dance-oriented for the most part end up it was a lot of a lot of integration of different styles of stuff going on at the same time and the music business used to go through that it would it would get very categorized and the categories would become very hard with really hard boundaries and then it would become kind of corporate music and it would get played to death and finally the audiences would get so sick of it the whole thing would collapse and something new would have to break through and job so this was a time when something new was breaking through and it was it was just it was exciting you know to be in to be in a room where you know you might have you know a black guy playing keyboards in a Jewish guy playing the bass and you know a Latino guy playing a guitar you know if it all the stereotypes would just be an all moved around but by the late 80s that kind of went away again except for Prince end up I was working in house music which was really very much at that time ghetto underground ghetto thing you know in Chicago Detroit and then later New York so the guys I was working with they told me not even to put my picture on my records They said don’t do that people will resent it and dumb so I didn’t and I was working in a style called hip house which was rap verses and Son courses and I did that for a while and sound really good success doing it and I and I loved the style and and I charted and charted very high on the Billboard charts in the United States and I had my own little label and I couldn’t get a record deal I couldn’t get arrested and cuz they didn’t understand what I was doing you know they look at me like huh rap versus some courses your white like what the fuck did they just couldn’t get it and so I put it out on my own record label and strangely enough I was ashamed that I had a record label no one had a record label back then you know that was before the big hip hop entrepreneurs like P Diddy and Jay-Z in those guys you know dr. Dre so I kept it a secret and dumb I didn’t tell anybody it’s got home though it was considered which is the showing your class or something to to be independent or you would have figured if people knew I own the label they thought I was a failure so that was before it wasn’t fashionable or is it wasn’t fashionable but it was also I think that showed a function of my own you know self-doubt and shame instead of being proud of it and embracing it you know I kept it in my closet and dumb probably only five people in the whole world knew that I own that label and up I exported to Europe and I had a pretty decent export business and I charted in the UK also add you know when I got I was kind of a darling of the UK music press endom you know I was having a final time and I really was feeling creatively very happy and I went on tour and then when I was in Chicago someone got shot in one of my shows it really had a big effect on me I was on stage and I thought I was bombing the house started emptying out and it’s a pretty weird feeling and I maybe got a thousand people in a club or 1200 people and your singing and it starts to empty out and you go oh my God I suck I’m bombing they’re leaving the room and I’m looking at my dancers and my dancers are frowning like what’s going on in when the show is over in that the lights went off this big cop grabs many pills me backstage and I go what’s going on what’s going on and he goes somebody was shot during your show. Oh my God is he alright because I don’t know and I said why did you let me keep singing and it goes always thought it would be good like to help people not panic and get out okay Isis flying so somebody shooting a gun in the room but you left me standing on stage I really appreciate that end so that must have been I don’t know member 91 maybe 90 something like that and so that was the last time I ever performed live endom wow yeah and Deb so then I started becoming a I wanted to I just got burned out I I just went by you know I don’t want to do this anymore and in retrospect what I needed was a break I should have just taken a break for 6 months or a year and just you know just giving myself some distance but what I did was I left I left the music business completely I stop writing music I stop singing and I wanted to do something what I said something adults would do I said I I can’t be a teenager my whole life I got to do something an adult would do so what did I do I went into the movie business haha for adults it’s just the music business or the middle school kids in the movie business people at the high school children trust me so I was creatively very interesting at first because I got trained on the literary side of the movie business which I found quite fascinating and I was very compelled and engaged and really really enjoyed analyzing scripts and I got a job working for Oliver Stone as a script analyst and I work for him for free for the first I don’t remember how many months it was quite a while and I was what was what’s called in Hollywood a script reader I would read submissions and then I would write him up and recommend whether they should be purchased or not and then I’m course I wasn’t the be-all end-all decision you know somebody above me then would read it you know I can and are then huh for film scripts that that’s a good way to put it that that’s exactly what it was right Anthem and I really liked it and I did it for a few years and I read a lot of scripts and I read a lot of books and I really learned what makes a good script and I also learned the the unfortunate truth of why something selling some things don’t and it doesn’t always have to do with the quality of the writing in the quality of the script many times it has to do with marketing decisions so you know sometimes a very fine script was passed over and a mediocre script was purchased but it’s because they felt they could Market it that’s just the way it is because it is a business ultimately anthem it was a great education I worked for him I work for a big agency called CAA creative artists I read for them for a couple years I work for James Cameron’s company Sydney Pollux company and then I work from Miramax for a long time and they weren’t Art House really really wonderful Art House film company I work there in their Heyday in the you know early mid 90s and that was a great experience I learned a lot and I read a lot of material and I also get something called notes where you give your opinion for whatever that’s worth on how to make something better and John eventually I just started writing my own scripts and I work with this guy named Colin green who now is a vice president at Sony films and we you don’t rub material that’s all you know we sold something to Paramount which should not get made it was a big budget science fiction movie and then we sold a spec script about a human rights investigation it was called Gods witness but they changed it to eyewitness and it had Jeff Daniels James Spader and Portia de Rossi in it endom I sold another script to the Syfy channel was a science fiction movie and what else did I do oh I worked on a documentary that was very dear to my heart it wasn’t my idea I was just like a Hired Gun I help produce it but it was about a a British war hero in World War II who were the time of the documentary was 96 years old and he came out as bisexual when he was 85 85 amazing he wrote an autobiography and it came out in his autobiography was a fascinating guy his father was the was the lawyer to King George during World War II he had this fantasy childhood you know being brought up around the Royal Family he was a you know a true aristocrat and that he meant he was a foreign correspondent when he was a young man he met Hitler twice he was a Nazi sympathizer in his youth as a lot of the British aristocracy wear in the 30s and then on a tour of a concentration camp which he was told was a labor camp and a rehabilitation camp this is before the war has started officer giving them the tour accidentally opened the wrong door and they saw a man being tortured and at that moment he realized that you know he been believing lies about Hitler that he just kind of drink the Kool-Aid as at work and he realize that the opposition has been telling the truth the whole time and he became very much an anti-nazi and he joined the army and then was in a very famous suicide mission call the Battle of Saint nazaire where they try to blow up a huge navy dock Adam the guy little fascinating life he met Churchill multiple times you met the king multiple times he met FDR he met Stalin then he became a foreign correspondent for the London times after the war and covered all the Civil Wars going on around Europe after World War II just fascinating man and you know of course I was interested in him not just for his military history and his literary history but also the fact that he was bisexual I thought that was so interesting anthem you know he had already had a rough time with it he really did it was you know in the upper classes it was accepted kind of with a wink like no one would out-and-out be prejudiced against you it was very much kind of a don’t ask don’t tell mentality and it was the same thing in the Army to you just didn’t talk about it but no one would say anything and then later on you got married to a woman stayed married to her till she died solar I did that thing for a long time I stayed in the film industry for a long time I was married again my wife had two children from prior marriage I became a dad which I loved and in that instance monogamy did support the marriage it was something that fit it worked while the marriage was working Anthem and then the marriage started falling apart and dab I don’t know if we had been non-monogamous how that would have affected it I don’t know that it would have changed anything the the parameters just were no good anymore but after that marriage and then relationship I had with a woman for about a year-and-a-half after that I just went I can’t keep putting this square peg into a round hole I just can’t do this anymore and job I decided that I was going to lead a polyamorous lifestyle Android I’m very happy I did Android when I realized it being bisexual and that was unusual I didn’t know it was unusual because I didn’t have any touch with the community you know you are still holy solo I was totally solo like many bisexuals are which is something I learned later especially men especially men bad I decided that I was going to try to help people because so many bisexual men are suffering millions and millions and millions and they suffer in silence because there is no community of any kind really to reach out to lesbians and gays have a very strong community in the United States would bisexuals have had a very elusive Community for years very very difficult to find and it’s very small and very disorganized and it’s only been in the past few years that it’s gotten bigger and stronger and more what’s the word higher-profile what is stereotype about how you’re not you’re not enough of one or the other orientation so you’re considered a traitor to both that’s right that’s right and the older you are the more you’ve confronted that like the really young Millennials like the 22 year old kids in the 17 year old kids they don’t have that at least the ones I’ve talked to you know they don’t they don’t seem to have that problem thrown at them or if they do they have a lot of support around them to tell them that it’s not so at least in the big cities let me qualify that but my generation if you said you were by they went out he’s really gay they just can’t admit it or he was in transition from being hetero to homo and somehow he got stuck in the transition and he never completed it is neurotic is fucked up because as we all know there’s no such thing as bisexuality that was a big thing there’s no such and there’s even major you know dating and sex advice people in the current Electronic media who still talk like that which I find very disconcerting and very upsetting and it’s very damaging to people’s mental health I mean we’re talking about something that people commit suicide over I mean sexual identity is a serious serious business if you’re if you accept it and you take it light will it it’s not a serious business for you at all God bless you you’re very lucky human being but there are many people who don’t accept it or are confused by it or are bullied by it or criticized or literally lose their entire family over it you know it’s just it’s it’s it’s a volatile volatile subject and for people to criticize bisexuals for identifying that way is so wrong and it borders on criminal you know and I feel very strongly about and that’s why I became an activist because I really wanted to fight that so but thank you so much for that yet do you want it we’ve we can go another few minutes now and then I think this is just the beginning of its going to have to be a series of really breaking all this stuff down because now it gets interesting how you been able to I mean it’s been interesting it’s such a journey man I just had no idea how deeply you’ve been able to percolate into all these different facets of the industry is in and now I’m just super excited to see how you were leveraging your your passions with me on the influence that you have in the you-know-what what the hell the flavor of your activism has coming up with art and all that stuff so if that would be a whole nother yeah whole nother show so but do you want to just start that just kind of introduced that aspect and then we’ll do a cliffhanger 2016 you know there was a lot of terrorism going on in Paris where the year before they had killed the cartoonists and writers at Charlie hebdo magazine they killed you know the audience at the bataclan Rock Club you know people at the soccer stadium and then of course Orlando happened and I was so upset that I made my first record in 26 years and it was fashioned after the viral catchphrase just sweep how he I am Paris and I am Orlando and I made a record and it just had a life of its own and it became a dancing in England it went to number 13 on the British dance charts and I got to combine my you know LGBT activism with my music and Men I couldn’t think of a better thing to happen you know it was great it was a very powerful time for me and so now I’m making another record and I’m hoping that I can make a a video that references Tantra in the video that goes along with the record that’s what I’m looking to do at least all right let’s talk about that what do you have in mind what’s your your vision so far the song has a lot of mysterious spiritual sexual references in it and so visually I see you know couples in you know making love via Tantra as a great visual representation for the song and that’s something I’d like to do and I don’t have any more of a concept with it then that more than that yet that’s a good place to start thanks thanks man so what are you do you have for is the track are the tracks or the main track bets what’s the the the roll out with that the lunch what is the name of the song it’s done I’ve got a variety of mixes done the very last mixes will probably be finished tomorrow it’s called we can feel it and I’ll probably start pre-release publicity in a week to 10 days I’ll start the pr and then I’ll release it in England in about 6 weeks I think now I’m so stoked so then this is kind of a teaser will definitely have to at the time of it being publicly available regroup and we can we’ll have more time we can go into more of these juicy topics and have something to share with the audience it so I can spare a fresh cut all right thanks man I appreciate your time and I hope your audience some enjoy it yeah this is exciting so I mean whenever we we met up and and talked and relief Vibe I mean the the need for at least within the the modern Neo Tantra and movement for there to be more role-modeling of pansexual and non heteronormative in non non dual non-binary configurations and I’ve actually found a good guy in the UK who we did interview with while a while back and he’s kind of holding it down for the gay Tantra and bisexual Tantra movement really holding space for that training in that world and really bringing the teachings to really find a home in in just break break out of that stereotype where that that limited limiting belief system that there has to be a biological male and female partner in a Partners II to create the alchemical union but there’s actually the potential to mix the energies and resolve duality in to become one really by the intention of running the energies is very well I guess you could say well ultimately we be good as such as it is such an androgynous experience to be altered to be shifting between receiving and giving an alternating taking turns and basically volleying the orgasmic energy you really lose sense of all personality ego and go so deep into the body that you actually become part of the cosmic body which is non gender or so so ineffable that you can’t really like identify it by what is genitals look like so that’s the point I mean the ultimate unity of of love to get to that point so you know it’s a yeah yeah I’m excited to be a part of anything work with anyone who is bringing more of this beautiful Consciousness and Technology to people who would who have a 5 talk to people after me to say why I didn’t think I could do that cuz I’m gay and I need a woman or a conversation but that’s kind of what yeah we’re like to get specially now that if you’re going to be doing this country themed video then next time we will talk when you’re ready to launch that we can really talk more about them is your experiences sexually and and spiritually in and all of that good stuff so the spirituality of Tantra because many people don’t know that that’s what it’s about they think of Tantra as a how to have better sex education you know or how to have better sex tool or procedure not that it is not that yes of course that exists in it you know yes there’s different positions techniques and things like that that’s absolutely there but that’s not the ultimate goal of Tantra and the transmutation of sexual energy into love into spiritual energy into the experience of a union between two people which then heightens the experience so you get to feel a union with the Divine is the ultimate experience of Tantra and I’m so glad you referenced it because that’s so absent from the North American Tantra conversation you know so and I know you been cuz you and I have talked about it so many times I know how much it’s a part of your Consciousness you know and I’m so glad it is part of your Consciousness cuz you know you’re putting it out there to people cuz there’s a lot of charlatans out there who don’t talk about it so good on you thank you yeah I consider myself a mama’s boy got his worshiper of kind of a spiritual mama’s boy so she’s got me on a strict orders to be of service and so all right once you get there far out enough and you make the contracts with with Divine forces then it’s it’s a I guess I would say it’s a beautiful responsibility to hold a higher vibration in a higher sort of them Integrity level and accountability accountability to something so deep and ancient and Beyond even this realm I feel like I’m a delegate of something far beyond just being a dude who can go and fuck people and take your money if I really want to and just take advantage of people who have a lower IQ or whatever or whatever the that’s kind of you know that wolfen or the the fox in The Henhouse Tantra man a true thing is is just a well I’ve got the secret to your Enlightenment and it’s in my pants and I can chart you know you can pay me for it and just this really twisted Gigolo I’m going down that was the ultimate abusive the ability to trick people with parlor tricks if Township magic and yeah you know anyway so we can work it will get into the higher Road in the The Good the light side of the force type of thing will get a hold of you now or what should they be signing up mailing list the email website anything they can, that’s like Daddy nothing. Ade Ada NADA like nothing NADA. Calm and if you click on contact they can send me stuff okay cool awesome well and you know I’m going to embed the YouTube video of your classic genre-defining Smash Hit it’s a real you everyone will remember that this is a part of their psychological as you know it’s somebody pinch me this is not happening this is lazy and retroactive Starstruck right now that’s cute, we’ll have a great night have a good to do this and we’ll be in touch soon and congrats on everything and looking forward to next time. Young Brother you take care of all right if you take care of you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episode if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com

The F— Yeah Frequency: Illuminating the Shadow with Jonathan Talat Phillips TPP28


 tp-talat-picIn this episode I discuss the process of illuminating the shadow using the F— Yeah Frequency with Jonathan Talat Phillips. We share some of our  neo-shamanic and psychonautic adventures while planting memetic love seeds for the future of sexydelia.

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Jonathan Talat Phillips

“Psychonaut Talat”

A well-regarded Bioenergetic healer and professional psychonaut (explorer of consciousness), Talat has been helping clients ride big quantum waves for over a decade. His memoir, “The Electric Jesus: The Healing Journey of a Contemporary Gnostic,” has become one of the must-read books of the new consciousness movement for its honest portrayal of life on the emerging edge of transformational culture. He co-founded the popular web-magazine Reality Sandwich and the Evolver Network’s 50 regional groups.  He is the creator of The “Ayahuasca Monologues: Tales of the Spirit Vine,” a religion blogger for “The Huffington Post”, and a Reiki Master and certified Bioenergetic healer. He currently orchestrates Psychonaut Productions shenanigans with his “partner-in-Love-crimes,” Claudia Wheeler-Rappe.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin okay I’m here with Jonathan talat Phillips at space camp and he is a shamanic personal trainer and he’s going to share with us some of his skills and techniques and strategies for Illumination in the Modern Age and Jonathan yeah if you want to see funny cuz my dog Dakota is licking then like crazy right now. We’re going to talk to wild stuff here I think we had a little bit too much California kind that’s Basecamp it’s just so nice that it’s like you can do it legally you know so this is a big wave night welcome everybody we’re going to get down I guess I’ll start with the fuck yeah frequency but you want to say something about my book first and yes yeah do you like Jesus is a must-read you’ll laugh you’ll cry you’ll hurl and it is there’s nothing else like it when I read that book I knew that I was connecting with someone who has a strong background in social justice activism in a healthy skepticism of the new age and it’s really a lot of people story and it’s something that I super validate and appreciate when I meet people who have been in the trenches of a resistance and understand what we are up against and now we’re evolving tactics that are much more effective because they’re spiritually effective so that’s my energetic as I want to take a big rainbow gun and shoot the fuck out of spiritual you know where ya been I’ve been in this for a long time no one ever believes I’m 40 years old I look 20 freaking 6 but yeah I’ve been doing this probably since I was a listen to music as a kid and let’s read and Kerouac and I went from being a political activist media guy to Quantum initiation in 10 years that after I don’t fire energetic training evolver realize sandwich people know that a lot of this stuff hundred Ayahuasca ceremonies come across a cheat for initiation and it’s about this illumination we’re talking big wave stuff here like Shadow elimination and for me the Cheetahs the fuck a frequency what I realized I was sending a boring email to about one of my clients and my guides just came in and just a brief freaking deal that you love this work and they started playing Happy Mondays step on I realize it was 95% that’s the energy of the fuck yeah frequency and when I realized it myself most of my clients is most depressions most anxieties most parasitic attachment happens cuz we’re not riding at our 95% now there’s some weird things so I’ve discovered about the 95% but maybe we should I talk about that first before we get to go down the rabbit hole cool huh so what is it 95% in detail well when I think about 95% it helps to go back to time in your childhood when you rocked it you were just in the flow and connected and for me that was price skiing and so it’s just I feel like I’m just came through life flowing through at 95% high energy Zone in the trick is you don’t have to be skiing to do it you can wash the dishes and do it but I need excitement I need to play music I need to karate chop things sometimes it’s do weird stuff to ride in it and I’ll get it there’s kind of a glass that goes on as your creative channels open up and we can get into that weird stuff cuz the 95% usually involves once you start kicking at it a hundred percent you are trying to be perfectionist 95 you just love life 5% sucking is your car either you got to love it too is it sits the 80-20 rule 2.7 what was the 80/20 you know Focus only 20% on the negative or the problem 80% on the solution and a sort of fractal pattern that they say if I still kind of the stuff I 95 would have does has kicked people into their higher self energy so it’s it’s just as easy to get to is it’s actually easier to get to 95 than 85 and you said yeah I mean I think it’s fucked up show cuz usually higher Vibes and trying to be spiritual shirts a trickster it see this is what I think is happening with the Psychedelic movement if we’re taking ourselves too seriously and we’re slowly letting it out and enjoying the dildo and replacing it and that’s kind of humor is where I Luminate things cuz he got to have a fucked-up sense of humor to the laughter in the bedroom and it’s the best to how do we laugh more in the bedroom what do you mean I don’t know it’s just things to know about waves crashing together I don’t know I’d like to laugh a lot more in the bedroom by not taking yourself too seriously that’s step one but that could be a lifetime study of how to get more laughter in the bath bedroom that would be a life well spent elimination so you never talk about illumination fuckyeahkrieger I never thought about that until George Bush won the election totally depressed looking for answers start seeing energy fields on MDMA on my 30th birthday first time I do Ayahuasca I’m sure I’m kind of three evolutionary things it in like a future shoot for Humanity of where we’re going after civilization it was pretty cool it was weird that was a snake that was half human or half organic half synthetic technology and biology merged energy illuminate. I was giggling and laughing and they just said are you ready for this one it’s going to be more than your human ego can have her fucking imagine it has to be done and they brought me up on this lotus flower and I was just told this is it this is what you’ve been looking for I was brought into this light this light is Shone all around me everything was light light light light light Limited so beautiful inside likely shea butter and they said this is what you’ve been looking for this is the Krishna Jesus Buddha energy and is real humans are enlightened time to remember and so that’s for me is illumination button right when I had that Vision I also had this thing of all but how can people hurt each other I think this gets into the parasitic stuff maybe we could spin into that before we get into the weird fuck at 4:50 and why do we need the fuck a frequency now more than ever because we’re under attack and plagued now more than ever yeah we were probably played worse in the middle is when everything was fucking dark high-speed internet porn makes the Middle Ages comparison to the infection rate of demonic parasite yummy High shot by chick kind of dark skin so itchy lady Kali kind of style hi Vibe no venereal diseases but she doesn’t want to do a job and she loves to fuck and she’s dumbing it up and bringing all this positive energy quadcross the internet to a repressed culture see these mechanisms I don’t think rich is bad like sure there’s some parasitic should out there but I don’t watch that do I don’t know maybe if you have any weird day isn’t it yummy yummy snacks but even that kind of worries me a little bit cuz are we trying to be conscious or is it actually just hide live and fun we’ll hear something to put in a context and maybe is a checklist edir Sherwin of mine in the tundra World said this very bluntly about most porn you know that’s like popular at least now it’s it something I believe the list was there’s no love is no soul there’s no God in what’s being portrayed and there’s a specific details about the research that’s out on you know specifically how it affects and opens up dark doorways for demonic infection of of the Watchers you know they’re reporting in their own words and to help heal sex drugs and rock and roll and this is just I have clients that go on Pleasure probation because they’re used to addictive ideas of sexuality but I think we got to openly sexual channels we got to awake and if we are just about sex I am a cat like let’s fuck yeah that’s what everyone wants like I don’t want to do it with everybody but I probably do and I think we just got the facts about this shit so In-N-Out in a state of epidemiology where they’re serious consequences if it’s not done by certain ethical standards of course I’ll just say that as a disclaimer I’m not even looking at the porn industry like your I’m looking at who’s doing the fuck yes those are people I’m paying attention to who are the hybrids that they’re doing those interesting things if my focus is on that that’s what I tracked and that’s the Fuck Yeah Yeahs you literally are daily focusing on the awesome things around you it’s a real gratitude frequency but man I hope more complaining about pouring and start shooting some cool stuff like you’re so yummy that these goddesses leg the whole planet and God I feel like we’re not allowed to use God’s very often well I think there’s four categories of modern men and at the bottom you have douchebag at the bottom you have a man is above that you have douchebag above that you have gentleman and buy that you haven’t and that’s sort of a a template for initiation Through The Dark Age of human sexuality that we’re stuck in it right now but but yes owning that godhood is what country is all about you know and got to got his head in both side swapping the energies and feeling masculine and feminine or however you want to terminate you know if cycle through so that you get a full balance internal and external you know balance circuits balancing the well Channel well I would say it’s yummy it opens people up there having fun you know she’s got a good energy about it that’s what it’s all about love and write important is love I know that but it’s just because I’ve seen people that look like they’re having a lot of fun and actually are couples in love like it was very different than I thought in some ways it wasn’t in other ways it was in this like I’m saying it’s his hi Vibe I think you can’t hide by Bruce even in that I look more down on them political systems in Port in the mode of reactivity towards what we don’t like let’s say this the fuck are frequency one we’re in the future where fuck your frequency is the norm and what is human sexuality and sexual expression look like as a part of sustaining that fucking frequency why would you need it because you have sex because you have sexual access but you can also just say the whole Kingdom of Heaven is the port industry it’s just this beautiful fluffy enlightened space of Energy’s connecting with energies and whatever form they desire and yeah it’s a weird transformation is actually like I thought I was just mr. straight guy and then suddenly these goddesses are coming in and open up the hearts and you know like I feel transgender and I really feel like there’s be so I’m half woman and I should have known I was in for it because all the Hermetic texts and Gnostic texts talk about that androgyny in alchemy the man when you’re clocked at goddess activate your Diva comes in purple than the pangs make yummy and I know call guys gals and like I got that sassiness is coming in and style that I never thought was me and it’s way more me that’s a 95% flow with such as these fucking everything and everything store hacking at that like anywhere I can because gnostics didn’t look at the labels too much yeah that’s we don’t need to go down that rabbit hole but this since since you know this is Township Punk we’re talking about edgy sexuality and edgy transformation cultural transmission stuff so it fits if we end up you know in those bits of dialogue it’s totally appropriate for this medium so so I think we we got some fuk a frequency on the topic of Shadow sexuality and light sexuality and how to dance with both so what else can one do to be on track with her 95% fuck a frequency Lifestyle by linebacker a year what would we talk about you your it turned out like a fuck you out for used to being the sexorcist cuz it’s just like it’s you at I Vibe it’s a little fucked up and it’s fine I mean and that’s what I’m going to do is find what is that energy driving you I had a good friend to get all these projects you wanted to do that that’s it and then suddenly said you know I kind of just going to keep being weird like wizard chaos magic wizard and when he said that I was like that is 95% that’s his fuck yeah and so it’s like this Rockstar way of moving through reality where Nothing Stops it right in word State putting your heart into the walls psychedelic allegories I don’t know what I have to look into who is writing the stuff but it’s just like Rambo you know I watch Rambo game like this is a guy with PTSD who went nuts and like Snapped out and then broke down crying about all the suffering you endured as a combat veteran it was extremely subversive and I totally denied it for many years didn’t watch it I watched recently and I’m like damn I was I was missing out and there’s a lot of good is a surprising his love his messages so inhuman mine one of them along with Jean-Claude Van Damme of course I think the cake will he was the belly dancer bodybuilder and karate master with his own gym and stuff so yeah you seem kissing man and you see him saying I love you too man and watch them you know shrink away unfortunately the Ninjutsu all that stuff that was in Bloodsport I mean morning some of my you know early masculine programming Jose but man he stood out like he’s probably really glad to dated he’s at that 95% look how high when will he has you she had some bipolar issues I believe if I’m quoting the record accurately I know he’s suffered deeply a lot of people do to get successful that level so I don’t know what happened I don’t know what his true character ever was I don’t know what happened to it when he had you know when he got very successful I know that there is some some serious like inappropriate things that I think happened so yeah I mean I don’t I don’t want to quote well there is a a psychedelic backdrop to the artwork and the world that they’re in kind of interdimensional you know Travelers and whatnot and some shamanic & esoteric Concepts built into the the whole mythology of what he was and what is tapping into and you know it by frequency write the 95 percent extreme empowered Female warrior archetypes in the movie at least and so anyways just to but let’s talk about that cuz that’s kind of the fuck have frequencies you have to see life is but I have the power right yeah it’s Mythic instead of logical and yeah it’s Limitless talismans like all that shoots real like humans real yourself and they have to get your TV to self out to I got the power and the dance move the real inspiration dancing with sore as you know and that’s a whole art form in itself it’s just like the most coolest thing to say Michael’s kind of my guy and girl know he’s kind of that androgynous Warrior Place both sign it I swear I never thought I’d be like transgender and checking out guys and I now find everyone why do I miss out on 50% of the beauty on the planet that’s tragic does it mean it would be tragic them to not enjoy 100% of the beauty that walks the Earth I know we just met each other down so much but that gets into the demon stuff man you want to I think you want to approach that why don’t you open up the dungeon for a minute okay everybody we’re going to be having some trigger warning alerts for going to defend depend of the Shadow at this point if you have serious you know bring your headlamp we’re going into the shadow cave world the underworld and what are you tell us about this bowling ball illumination chapter sure and you know what I think I have a gift for everyone going to go through my little Shadow Journey sign me up there’s two things I get most calls about and you know people wanted to sessions about when they read the electric Jesus and that is the bowling ball the black bowling ball of anxiety in my gut and the weird ask cool alien contact stuff so this bowling ball anxiety I just you know I grew up in kind of a home that you might say that a lot of kind of verbal abuse and I think I internalize a lot of that overtime and also I really think there are these bugs there are these parasites but in my experience and not what you think at first that looks like a demon and I’ve been Illuminating cost of bugs and things like this and I put the frequency what it does is it moves through it I used to fight in feeling like try to fight negativity with negativity capacity just laughing and the great thing about the Pacquiao frequencies you can hit it 95% like you can hit it all day the problem by find a psychedelic medicines and all this even yoga is when you leave the mat you can’t leave the practice and if you’re just wrong 95% 95 Fox half monkey half of that stuff starts turning into Angels it starts turning into an integrated power I’m going through I mean it’s the bed sometimes it doesn’t hurt yeah that’s what it was done something to the effect if you gotten desert face your demons to become angels. so what are you waiting for you got to learn and if you’re not prepared yet you can’t get taken down really run but how many of us is the armor and loving yourself how do you love these how do we love ourselves that’s your study going to be your sexy sex or cyst and then I’ll do you know and that’s open to both male and female physiology where is it up your ass and around the corner at the P Spot a male G-spot the prostate gland that rhythmically with love providing love and pleasure and a medicinal effect occurs which is the demons dislodge and at that point you want to have a a sanitary disposal method in place so that you don’t end up propagating through the neighborhood or the apartment building whatever comes out you know so that’s the same sets in Container Park but that’s it that the female G-spot above the top of the vaginal wall with the come hither motion it can be stimulated and do try this at home but it requires training and it requires respect and knowledge and awareness informed consent about the kind of material that can move through the the chakra system when it’s when it’s stirred up and when it has to run and Scurry away from a disinfectant light of love that you’re should be receiving from your partner from your sexual Hands-On healer it’s fun to get a little high at night breathe energy Bree positivity enjoy yourself use some lube move the energy I like to not to come and just awake awake and then I do agree with the anus really prescribed a self-pleasure practice to all my clients cuz we need to get our balls back I feel like religion Society everything is cut our balls in your knees off and that’s why I’m spiritual folks feel so powerless Goddess that I know and have and have been influenced by quite a bit she said one time you know throwing your hands up shrugging men are afraid of their assholes and I laughed and then I was like you know but I wanted to cry because how silly would it be to be if it’s like you see make a joke I’ve been afraid of your own shadow how much of a coward are you if you’re afraid of your own ass, I know it’s so busy of my clients when they first began this is the last Pratt this is the last Practice still doing is trying to get your balls back so in your book you talk about your first time receiving such pleasure and such Adventure right you want to oh man I have a whole six adelic practice like you know you just get your groove on you work with the energy you young man but people focus too much on that I think building it up yourself about coming as a guy you found as much as they want Rollie talking about ejaculatory or non ejaculatory champagne bubbles going up and you know it’s a circus when you go and you hit that Bell and then the little ball goes up and hits the Bell the top that’s your pineal gland and that’s your root chakra and your sex chakra at the bottom you got a pound that orgasm up the central Channel and ding hit the veil at the top and that’s your shower v&t I don’t go light doesn’t start pounding it to the energy will go right up and open my heart to heart on the way to the head right yeah I saw to cut it when you were saying that like the the old love machine thread say like stinky fish are called fish like Hot Lover at the top of the motherfuker when you hit the sex chakra in Boones up and also what I think is a lot of people are not hitting that Tasha and bring it in this is the other red pill of the 95% this is probably the biggest one remember I said there were two reasons people reach out to me the electric Jesus tell me again black bowling ball and Aliens I think a lot of the reason people have black bowling balls is cuz they’re actually Galactic and they got like when they wake into that they just called the freak down they realize they’re kind of Star Energy and like it’s kind of like a homecoming so for those who have not read the book yet and who and who promised to read as soon as possible the black bowling up the black bowling ball in astral ecological terms what are we talkin about the well I think it’s multi-faceted you know you could say it’s demon in pain demon in pain demon in pain demon in pain demon demon missed a densely populated bosses and loaded with acts like a mining town of coal mining town gun can spider webs spiders for sure I have seen crazy noodles but then I’ve seen demon babies you sending babies I’ve been in the Hatchery adorable otherwise they will never go away the quickest way I know to love them is to find a Maduro Mall Dumont find an adorable even whisper and get them on their backs rub their bellies until they get what they need to move on someone said to me recently I activate the Divinity and all and if these are all forms you know so yeah do you forget that you’re you know of the light well in your mind you and send you on your way here stuff Milton go no actually I take a little more that’s that’s one of the pest control comes in with the higher dimensional beneficial Predators you come in at telling it like if you were terminated demon I’d say hit 95% all the freaking time remember her have a good time all the time right the first be but I do have all sorts of energy like I believed me again like you figure it out yourself you do the internal medicine you know you either maybe you need Saint Michael sword to stab down your spine or power of He-Man Atomic love bombs fluff It Up With Angels radio on Xena everything you got the first on your side to win the game The Love Game so that everyone else can also in the living room the path to Perfection is to love him Perfection loving the imperfection you know cuz his demons are things that are highlighting stuff in you to figure out what basically do you are you familiar with the a pass and what is it is a line and in the Bible of pardon my lack of knowing the rapper was it called a reverse right there’s a Bible verse and I can’t say exactly which one but people who know it will know it will recognize it it’s where Jesus is performing an exorcism on a person whose demons are channeled and speak to the person to say something is effective would you torment us before our time or it would be so basically this person’s fucked-up Karma gave us an assignment to go to torture them and torment then and make them physically mentally ill and that’s on them what are you doing here why are you coming to reassign us we’ve got a job to do and so it’s karma that attracts it there multiple doorways and entry points for interdimensional demons to persist throughout a G & D N A line through production and then there’s whatever you do in your own Lifetime and that’s on you but you absorb your parents, You observe your past life Karma and you Credit Karma every time you speak think and act in this lifetime that’s a lot of opportunity for opportunistic parasitic organisms from other dimensions to come in and build their ass but I wouldn’t hear your modelli but what I would say is don’t focus on that shit focus on rainbows and lollipops and Cyndi Lauper Girls Just Want to Have Fun and dance dance dance dance dance into your heart opens and blows the fucker incinerate them with sexual ecstasy and dance floor ecstasy MDMA if you can ride it Sylvester let’s talk about shrooms and you have a way of working with astral ecology at the sexorcist so this is the moment for you to share I use the thug a frequency the black. Plaster this I gave the the more scientific white paper lab report version of this in a previous podcast astral ecology with Tom Denney where it’s you know a little bit of a more yeah okay thank you so to match your frequency and be at the 95 percent frequency I’m going to say that you know I’m a Westerner and a white you know Caucasian male who’s semi bisexual and that’s my orientation or that’s my as a postmodernist wouldn’t introduce their their their paper their argument by trying to contextualize their own bias you know so there you have that disclaimer out of the way and so when I talk about encountering the Hindu goddess or goddess that exists Beyond cultural language it’s in a non cultural bound non culture-bound higher-dimensional beneficial predator in the astral ecology that performs a function in the garden of your soul back into ladybugs eating aphids and when you create create habitat and you encouraged the growth of beneficial predators in your garden than you have what’s called biological Pest Control happening and you don’t have to be out there individually fighting each of them one by one taking them off trying to poison them or incinerate then you obviously ecstatic love making ecstatic dancing and all the other ways to maintain a healthy mindscape is inhibitive to their growth but if their growth is so save dug in like termites where your house is condemned and that’s why you kill yourself is because you feel like your house is condemned because the demons have infested in rotted out every board there is an option and that option is to call upon the higher-level the higher dimensional high-level predators in the food web of the S to ecology and they can reduce that parasite load dramatically because that’s what they eat and that is constant and effect throughout visible nature in microbiology and it extends Beyond this dimension in that’s the lecture part of it the fuck yeah frequency frequency part is that I Know Myself personally and people who have worked with using this understanding in this methodology of of sacred chanting that evokes or invoke saw the goddess to to to do was call Daddy possession and your trance-state and become the goddess by invoking it into the flash this is what you can call Angelic possession and what Angels do they eat demons so call it whatever you want demons are edible to a higher level dimensional predator and snakes Kundalini snakes are your friends too because they help Munch up all of those noxious infectious Critters and creatures that are that are at Quest ring or Nest inside those 72000 nadi’s that connect to shaka’s that’s their habitats you were their habitat if you think of the nest of the biz in your not easy to do and what do you see you soon as sodium is in your chakras is beautiful rainbow light opening up the parts where the things got in rainbows coming here in call he’s coming in in the most beautiful black badass energy waves that she can you know what it looks like when you know when a raccoon when a pack of raccoons raid the nest of a rodent or does it look like fucking Carnage Bistro astral Carnage blood and say that yes and light and rainbows but I’ve also seen when you take a sort of light and you put it into a dark base it turns light pretty freaking quick is Martin’s lights just more powerful you know but that’s the thing is you’re calling in the big lady Khalif to do the work for us and you know I work with same Michael that way I think it’s pretty special that you got this really sexy dark black people are working with these Dark Healers like Trent Reznor and a bassoon Kali I think there’s a real teaching there like these Light Dark Healers and that’s why you’re so weird and I just cut share this wisdom well to tell you the truth as an initiate of a higher-level order of priestesses whatever Social Capital comes from my healing journey and like pseudo discovery of this technology the the mic goes to my Guru s my Shawn Mendes and my teacher who did the transposition state and became Kali and physiologically and trans-dimensional E performed an act of consumption of the Demons even built like I give all the love to the dime a man for cash bro I agree type your elders but man I think your new car would do you a lot of good it’s new on the inside well actually because you mentioned that I guess this would be a good time the best of of any time to to put on record that my service to the divine feminine you know is such that I owe my life to it at this moment and nothing to it but to her and to the real the real sword of shamanic election or initiation so I’m under orders you know as we speak and part of my future is going to be be emphasizing my my egoic aspirations you know and whatever money that comes in a huge proportion of it is going to be funneled directly into the Psychedelic goddess worshiping Priestess class that have certain you know that’s my thing has been in the movement for 20 years I hear you but it’s like yeah that’s I think that’s what we’re all doing what they’re about it’s a permaculture Mythic you know return of surplus you know not to accumulate anything too much in one area including your own ego including your own bank account distribute that where it’s needed so that everyone can be written up to the next level Yeah Yeahs live so I can share the wealth and I I really hope this movement I feel like the The Genius of its just salivating so quickly and it’s like this Quantum Renaissance is coming in I’m just enjoying kind of watching it getting another big ride into a great adventure but can we talk about this I want to apply the fuck you a frequency little nor like in a lot of people are the outfits are getting better from Sirius documentary movie about Ayahuasca to start doing some fun stuff about the culture that’s kind of bored of my things like I really want to see more like what was it reality hack Dublin scissors a lot of after I don’t want to miss school but I’ll paraphrase and say that you’re different fronts of the movement so to reach their highest and most gifted strategy and you would add to that do whatever you do in the fuck are frequency and document along with all the Sciences coming out in more of the Revelation where the fun more of the hands on how to application is that more action another level Beauty flash most I didn’t say I really want to see what people are doing in their backyards the fun weird stop someone from a kosher baby but I was dude BMX bikes and skating as a kid and people reading the school Ashton Kutcher skateparks man grow your own first aid Garden for those scrapes and bruises when you fall if you’re bored and just passed something arms I would do a video about combo tattoos where hey do you like looking like a indigenous badass but you don’t want to do all that puking and key tattoo and it’s got like you could get like different versions that the wimp has three the warrior has seven so like Boy Scouts patches or something fake tattoos that make you look like you are like easy access yoga pants I want to do with I’d like I just want to take over Iraq of where the movement sad and throw it about 50 ft for their head there’s a lot of fun stuff coming out but I think it’s still got to hit this next level where it’s into it’s making fun of it but totally celebrating enjoying it the same time it’s not just Pastiche and it’s not documentary it’s not shit new girl skit Newark New Age Girl Say and it’s not the documentary about Ayahuasca there’s there’s a new line that I want to see where the realities we are experiencing are being expressed I’m seeing it at the festival’s I can one seed in the movies in the music the music off the hook right now psychedelic reality TV show where they go on a world tour and you see them all trying to fight fire can see God in the real world I’m I’m so I’m so has a skeptical of of reality TV shows that’s all I got to say about exercising everybody good Beagle you have to write producers frequency is like I feel bad you were fuck yeah it’s just kind of magically manifested that you’re here I mostly clabber it 95% or above all have our own bullshit but it really the 90 funky as a good bull shit shit meter it’s been extremely helpful night I think yes Soul surfing I still surf with you on the stage at the Sugar Shack at the first Shaman at Gathering and and I felt it and that’s I yearn for that now you’re going to relive my childhood in a way that is actually a lot better than it actually was and that’s about staying excited we all getting a second childhood I think you know ivesta thing to Discovery in the news right now is all this health was just people had bad childhoods those with health issues in a bad mood to the food if he said it’s the last one of us II of things here like all of these tyrants throughout history it’s just one cascading momentous bad mood until the Kingdom of Heaven is a good mood away either you just can be a little lazy here in life cuz they give you the big ideas you know a lot of people come to me for your book title ideas and stuff and the guys always come up with really great things and I think that’s really part of the magic about the quantum Realm Eugene maybe more channels channels open up you get to do more than one thing in life you know look at you you’re a musician you’re a writer during SEC sources do you know I’m a shamanic personal trainer writer public speaker it’s just follow your dreams what are you all say to tapestry of the tapestry of that ass for me text Asia you never know how it’s going to unfold either do you know I can’t admit I couldn’t imagine myself being where I’m at now you know several years ago by any means I’m get you every time God bless God bless everyone going out there going through it you know yeah it’s just like I love things like this pain I feel like we’re coming to the close is Siri any Grand Finale kind of sentiments this is exactly what I intended was kind of a a freestyle you know what I mean a freestyle for us all you know from the heart and and from the head and Nike with some humor to seed you know the future with some of these key words that are starting to like become you know memes you know they could pick it really be useful constructed meme so as mimetic designers romantic Engineers with the conscience spell and in with the vision oh God you’re so articulate I love that we have a practical guide for sexorcism he’s going to be writing an article so keep tuned for that and I have my funky a frequency if anyone’s interested I’m starting sessions I’ll give you an hour and a half after half an hour to get a free electric Jesus blah blah blah but if you kind of been wanting to do a fuc yeah I kind of program and see where where you can go just reach me my sights it’s a psychonaut – tala t a l a t. Com yes and we’re here at space camp again enjoying the beauty the moon’s out well I’ll stay you know my closing thoughts which is one I love you brother your inspiration a hero to me and and it’s an honor and privilege and duty to be here in this moment to take ourselves a little less seriously and have some fun and as far as you know my offering right now it’s still sort of in in development and I don’t want to say I’m going to have to wait until we build an ark in international waters can be able to do this stuff without the black helicopters on top of his butt stay tuned and I’m embedding some of these recipes for liberation of the soul in my in my heart and in music so in writing so there you have three have it well but I really appreciate your integrity my intention all along was to bring out the wild stuff and be a little bit of fun trouble and I think you I really enjoyed it thanks bro I haven’t done I haven’t done an interview in a very long time this is my coming out for the new thing so it’s nice to pop my cherry with it’s the third anniversary of 2012 right this year something right this second thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at kontrapunkt. 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