In this episode I have the great honor of speaking with my divine feminine spirituality mentor, healer and dear friend Sufiana. She holds space for me to summarize over two years worth of psychedelic shamanic research that began with the meeting of our souls in a sacred dance.
It was she who initiated me into the might, magic, and mystery of Goddess Kali. Together we explore the ancient lore and modern science that are converging to bring the Goddess back into psychotherapeutic effect.
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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 35 I’m here with Sue Fionna and we’re going to talk about the science of goddess invocation we’re going to be looking at how these ancient tantric Hindu archetypes of the goddess can be translated and understood in a modern context using modern language for Psychotherapy and somatic healing and in all these new sort of modalities that are being scientifically studied and recognized and so there’s this intersection of the esoteric and the scientific and we’re going to explore that and discuss some of our mutual discoveries and I’ll say that where was the first important effect that I observed actually goes back to the first night that we had begun to communicate and sort of from share a vision of bringing more divine feminine energy on to the Earth plane through through dancing together we kind of set that attention in the very beginning and then literally that first night that we made that intention I went into my normal Friday night mushroom psytrance dancing ritual and began to have a massive download and start to channel visions of a future where a very Fierce powerful goddess energy will be guiding me and possibly Sufjan are you know us together collaborating to be able to bring in this righteous rage and I had just seen a video of her inviting Kali through a dance and I didn’t have any real understanding of the the Hindu goddess Kali archetypal when I read about it and I was very intrigued and and then it was like from that moment she began to enter my my life and in that the first night of dancing I was not only feeling this and seeing this for the first time this sort of Astral texture of her body and this very well well established depiction of a sort of array of kaleidoscopic eyes and if the very wrathful facial expressions in this sort of time continuum of a feminine a beautiful feminine Continuum of phone of Flesh and teeth and things in ferocity to sort of higher dimensional living massive organism and that was when I first started to see in the mushroom state from the third eye perspective this force of nature this feminine Divine force of Nature and towards the end of that first dance after I had felt this new rage righteous rage energy come in was Exquisite and beautiful I began to actually have a perception of a far more terrifying or terrible form that was very much not humanoid in very much sort of insectoid and I was I had to avert my third eye I had to change the channel and and snap out of it and in in in sort of a void that the invitation to go deeper into into that that experience and then later I found out after reading the Bible Gita that do you know when the conversation with with Krishna and Arjuna there’s this point where Arjuna is shown the Divine true interdimensional body or true form of of the Divine entity and it’s so terrifying has to end over his eyes and ask him and beg him to return to his humanoid form and when I discovered that in the end of the scriptures that was like okay that’s exactly what I experienced there is this extra-dimensional non-human Divine beings entities that that we’re being you know describing a similar way so that was a ridge that was my first encounter with the goddess Kali before even meeting Sufjan In the Flesh and then after meeting the first time we you know discuss their kind of Life paths and and our our Journeys if a feeling and what not and then we had said the intention to then get together and do a bit of dancing because I had asked you know hey would you train me and teach me some of this some sacred dance you know it would really help me in my journey in so we rented a Little Rock Band Rehearsal studio for an hour and I plugged in my MP3 player and played some some sensual and in a powerful psychedelic trance music in and then something very frightening and beautiful occurred which is that Sufjan of began to just get into her beautiful traditional dance State and I was doing a kind of country textbook kind of pranic healing intuitive Oreck sweeping around the the female is form of prayer and devotion and worship to encircle the female and in the center and and slowly close the gap and go from a sweeping of the aura to a gentle sweet thing of the of the surface of the skin to a powerful and Brace and as as their process began to occur we create this funnel Vortex Whirlwind of Prana and then I don’t know if you want if you remember this exact moment but I remember it like like like seeing a burning bush but you at that moment snapped into the Kali invocation deity possession transtate tongue rolling out porosity of expression and a sort of wave a discharge of this wrathful energy so do you recall that and had that ever happened before to you anything like that I I have to say that it was a very different experience from my earlier ones though being from Indian culture and having danced like Carly in some of my performances I did I did have a few minor visitations kind of that kind of experience but that was particular Dance Experience was it was something beyond that for sure and then of course the next experience we had together with the the journey which will soon be talking about was oh my goodness. It was like a million x million steps forward from from this Dance Experience but it was a beautiful moment it is so hard to put something like that in the word that is why I am at lost in some ways it is something that you really have to experience it but I I was I had not taken any kind of drugs but I was constantly for that one or two hours I was just having visions and colors and light and all these designs for me in front of my eyes my eyes were closed of course and I was supposed to test by the movement and I was possessed by the divine feminine yeah it’s the validation and so is that moment I was astounded and struck and I immediately that shifted my life forever because I is it as a sort of from you call it a pseudo-scientists there were an armchair scientist or amateur but someone who is a big fan of the movie and read the book Altered States which is all about the scientific study of the intersection between physiology and phenomenology in other words what you experience is one narrative to talk about and what is measurable on the physical plane in the body’s physiology you know if you say you see a ghost you know there is Ghost Hunters are trying to look for the physical evidence of such things in if you say you saw it that’s really subjective thing that certain aspects we measured but in that film Altered States you can get a lot of America s that set me a motion to understand why mystical experiences are of such interest to psychedelic scientists because that’s where we can actually gather data and start to prove the existence of God or prove the existence of goddess and therefore shift the soulless like dead Paradigm of the Scientific Revolution and his you know been responsible for so much disaster we need to bring sacredness back into life on Earth so without going into a polemic only move quickly on to the next is significant event which is that you know I began from that moment realizing that there was this powerful healing force of nature that was coming into my life for a reason and that I had to respect it and study it and be open to you know the next steps and so on we started to plan some shamanic work together and and in collaborate and you know designing some some ritual procedure and Sacred Space for going further in bringing in the psilocybin mushroom the sacred mushroom into you know into a goddess invocation event and so we actually did a dry run first without the medicine and and I was experiencing powerful effects you were using if you remember you kind of walk me through a kind of more let’s say it’s not traditional but a more kind of textbook cycle therapeutic modality of anchoring inner child in the spirit animal and going into the forest and then opening up of a portal below the roots of the tree for the dark armies to be flushed down and that was a very like kind of NLP neuro-linguistic programming based approach or you know something based on your your studies at the California Institute of integral studies or that at school there so if you have any thoughts or memories about that you were doing kind of massage and chakra work guiding me through that was our first time 9 psychedelic dry run of giving you the Spiritual Authority to do healing work in to cast demons out of my field you know if you remember that the experience I remember the one with the journey are you talking about the one very word Journey on the mushrooms yeah I was starting to break down and cry you wasn’t that it wasn’t that memorable you know what I mean to me it was a course but that was if you don’t recall much about is fine cuz it wasn’t it wasn’t it was just like a Prelude to where I can start to feel yeah there’s we’re opening up this astral body and doing some some deep tissue work in the astral body but that was before we do the mushrooms to it so that was a sort of dry run it happen and then in between that dry run and our scheduled full on full heroic dose mushrooms journey I was assembling the soundtrack for this journey because I knew or had you know we had discovered that okay there’s something about the Psychedelic trance feet and a psychedelic trance the way that it the frequencies and a lot of you know tuned to actual sacred frequency is a lot of the tracks have especially to go a genre has sacred Melodies and and really they’re like you know they’re they’re able to unlock different energies in the astral plane these frequencies and his Beats and obviously they get you add realized so they’re preparing you for a spiritual battle to to retrieve your own soul that’s what people are doing on the dance floor is shedding demons and retrieving fragments of their soul and becoming whole again through the sacred ecstatic trance dance at a universal phenomenon and even you know it’s documented by stanza by stanza stand graph stands fully that Congress and African foraging people’s activate Kundalini through their own ritual ecstatic trance dance and it’s there you know similar therapeutic use of Kundalini Shakti but in their terms have different words for it but we’re talking about forces of nature and activating them through dance so you know who it was I took it upon myself to spirit of God choose a selection of tracks that would be most adrenal icing for the for the ritual and one of them was the suspects spotted Track by Mad Max and that track I had been journeying on my own and listen to that track and I was given a powerful vision of how this is like the the the flute with the melody to charm collie and her terrible beautiful hyperdimensional Predator form in in in an indication that could invite her into actually do the Demonic devourment in a very Astros ecological Manor in the hole that all these words and not sending dance with the simple way to look at it is it in in the astral plane there is an ecosystem just as As Above So Below there’s an ecosystem and the deities aren’t just cartoon archetypes they have functional roles medical assistant so the analogy would be that if you are suffering from mental or physical illness it is because you know like a leaf of a spinach plant is suffering because there are aphids eating and devouring it in so if you were an aphid that had a spiritual technology to call forth the ladybug that ladybug would be something you would worship and devote yourself to because a ladybug will be devouring the aphids and liberating you and providing you with the ability to heal yourself so I was given that Vision not as a sort of you know what would you call it and it wasn’t a symbolic Vision I actually saw the true biological hyperdimensional beneficial predator entity that Hindu Tantra sex ancient psychedelic you know tantrix were were talking about in an inward decoding or including the experience in the scriptures in the contras the tantris are the scriptures of Devotion to Kali and you know that’s something I got deeper into studying later but in that moment myself dancing I was filled with joy and I Had A Smile as big as ramakrishna because I knew that this is what the power in with the fur for a fursuit Fiona to be vamping out in a possession state in a bistro possession state with a war face of a mother raccoon ready to pounce that is the cat is the intersection of the the astral power of the goddess and when the devotee acts actively engage is that energy and in permits her to enter then we get into we’ll talk about a minute which is more medically measurable effects but long story short I had that Vision or that experience that phenomenological experience and then I I was so excited about it and when I found you Sufjan it like a few days later to tell you I was like overjoyed and acting like a freak dancing around in circles at outside of your place in Santa Monica and I made the mistake of of like it is an American in a friendly manner like putting my arm around you and you were like not used to having affection in public so it’s kind of a disaster but but I was excited and that was that was they took that excitement into you know what what what we did together which was we brought in the mushroom in and we played those tracks and then all hell broke loose all Heaven broke loose and we experience something that I already put in previous podcast you know our recording where we were both sort of like 10 turned white is still in the DAT possession transtate and we’re still channeling the the I would call them the Commandments of Yoni worship and all of that is already documented in some of the earlier podcast I’m not going to give mine are too about that we already did that but you now in this moment looking back I’m curious you know how would you describe what it felt like when you in that mushroom ceremony were able to fully embody the goddess and perform a shamanic form of exorcism you know what are your what are your thoughts now to add to what we already had recorded about this couple years ago well in that moment I have to say that it says like the most natural thing to do it felt so effortless to be my most empowered self but the power was the power was intense and it was so beautiful at the same time it wasn’t something that could possibly come from your arrogance or egotism in fact if you were trying to come from that place seeking power then you pretty much be sliced off by her sword by Kali sword that’s how I felt so there was that Modest part of me that was also coming from the ego the voice that oh you know maybe you know this is I don’t know if if if this power is coming from the eagle or if this power is you know can be arrogance because we are so used used to this polluted a form of power that is rampant around in the world that when pure power comes and possesses you it’s hard to trust it immediately but it felt so effortless it felt so natural and it felt like it was always there this is who I always was and always will be I was always Carly and I always will be curly how can I not be her and this is not just about me this is this is not about sufiyana this is not about me at all she is there within all of us and why do we forget to embody her that is the biggest question there was a mirror in front of me and I looked at myself and I told myself sufiyana tomorrow when this journey is over I have a feeling that you would want to go back into your old patterns and forget who you truly are you’re going to want to forget your soul don’t do that remember this moment always remember this moment and I remember that in the beginning we had maybe some kind of you know we started with some meditative music and then we did grounding centering and all that then we started dropping in with some trance music but we went to the deepest darkest Parts you know and do the most Divine parts that yearning with a fierce collie happened to this beautiful music which maybe Ben will share with you all that was a chant to goddess Durga and the Montreal goes like this adversity end at some point I remember that the computer that was not a single link that was open but the song was just playing we were playing it initially on YouTube and it was I don’t know it was like magic it was just playing I don’t know where how it was playing but I put later on I put the song on repeat mode and we just went deeper and deeper and deeper with it and yeah it was very Fierce moments very very very Fierce moments all the anger that the feminine is the feminine within all of us with her regardless whether you are a man or a woman that the feminine within us is holding in her unconscious the anger that comes from years and years of patriarchy misogyny and all the ill effects and the suffering and the pain it’s causing all of the children men women I’ve met women that can be patriarchal in misogynist and there can be men also so I’m this is not about men or women I’m not stalking against men here I’m talking against patriarchy and misogyny and we just know that it’s important so we do this and and so like I’ve been doing this constantly one of my goals that I set out of certain point was that at least you know once a year there would be a community gathering around love sex intelligence and the rest of the time you know we haven’t online for him but very important for that hole project has been and which we’ve stepped it up in the recent months to make sure that hopefully like every month we can do something is to to say that the community around learning about how to how to harmonise our relationships how to defend our sexuality into something that is you know how uplifting our spiritual path is something that needs to be done you know with with with more support and so that’s why it’s it can’t just functioning online capacity so that’s something I’ve committed to we have we have been actually our next events is focusing squarely on sexual initiation I’m pink resented by someone named y’all Lila Espinosa is looking at how to tweeze mower practices that she learned in Peru you know have informed her own healing and and then creating her own initiation but yeah I also you know as an astrologer I work with people and often it is around relating I’ve done a little bit of like you know support for people I think what happens is you know when when you become a central figure in any given Community people will come to you when they’re in crisis and this is what has informed my my the work that I do around you know Rites of Passage is responding to crisis from a place that seeks to get to the root of what is causing the crisis which in so many cases is that there is a lack of of support and people therefore will resort to self initiation just something I’ve had to do in my own life and and see it so much the case for some of the other people and there’s another psychological shifts that occur when people an emotional shift that occur when people feel a sense that they’re being held that they are being that they can fit they can let go and have a safe space to go into those wounds and begin working on them and of course it would help if we had a little more guidance and how to do that but thought comes over over time you know we have to work from where we’re at and so that’s something that I’ve been in in the my own process of of my own work around here figuring what those things are with those tools are and Tom yeah like I said I’m not an expert but I can at least Point people in some directions I guess what we’re looking at here is that there’s an underground space very intentional underground space that is more conducive to kind of freestyling or rolling your own ceremony and just holding the light and and letting those who it call who are called to it you know it would become integrated into keep it at the gala Therrien and flowing so that you don’t have cult of personality and politics and all of the scenester Hipster things coming in and that’s always up in it and he has to be on guard against and whatnot so I see there’s that unfoldment in that development and then there’s people who are also working like stay in the social work field who are informing their peers and colleagues in those sectors with these Neo shamanic techniques or nonviolent communication or your where it’s legal and accessible and permissible you know legally again to be able to put people on amor I guess like prisons prison you Lila has a very and I’ve done some I interviewed her in the past and I’m a big fan of what she’s doing and I know she has a strong background in clinical social work and is feeding back into that sector the wisdom of of the Amazon and and Beyond and so is that something that you have I just thought I remember reading somewhere you know or talk to you at some point about how this is this is like you could be hired by the more formal above ground and sectors of social work or Community work with where you can be brought in to bring some of the stuff that would normally be or I guess it’s just that it’s a very interesting Cutting Edge of an intersection and I if I’m not mistaken that’s that you you are like sort of partially in that world 2 of of social work or is that something I understand correctly yeah I’ll I will string this conversation back and see where where I where I am placed social work as well as all the modalities of counseling and healing you know like they are all part and parcel to supporting and upholding status quo capitalist system so I’m going to like you know like you know also haven’t been in the punk scene also had a big enough impact on my my party now 13 m in terms of healing these wounds we have to look at that and I we can’t we can’t say like that are healing is going to be independent of the world that is reeling and suffering from the continuation of this system as it is and so that’s where for me like bringing capitalism into the equation is is something that’s real tricky it’s something that I feel needs to be kind of understood. You know we we can’t just rely on having sting services that we can pay for because that creates a gap you know where some people are going to have accessible abilities to to the healing and others won’t and that’s that’s not healthy for anyone and and also that it doesn’t address the root cause of why we need social workers to begin with and why we need counseling and all of that so I really like the notion of cultural healing that’s where more where I would be comfortable in any way kind of looking at myself as any kind of healer I don’t think we we can really heal individuals that’s really something that you know a person will need to and it’s not like they can be facilitated to do their own healing work but nobody can fix us we have to fix ourselves that’s that’s more I think a more powerful Paradigm to be apart of but you know I I I have worked in the realm of I focused therapy and you know I have spent quite a bit of time around the spirit plant medicines and seeing how the plant medicines have assisted and I do I do continue continuously work to increase my knowledge and wisdom around working with us plants and and that also brings us back into that hole realm of discussion around you know ancestors and working with them or perhaps that’s something we haven’t really touched upon but maybe she said it’s just that in any form of healing that we do I guess for me the important thing that I really try to bring into whatever I do connecting back with her ancestors and healing the trauma of how we were disconnected from those ancestors and how that plays out in any kind of sexual wounds or emotional wounds that we carry and so that’s something that I I I feel like the role of initiation and ritual can can really do and that’s that’s been its Province ever since people began doing patrols I think it’s to build upon the legacy of their ancestors and to draw and their their help and support cool said that yeah thank you for helping me understand the other parameters a little better and and 100% there with you I have I have been because I live in the United States where there’s different laws around no prostitution in in how that affects the healing with sexual touch and pleasure as medicine and stuff like that is a lot more yes I understand in in Canada there’s there’s a lot more interesting legal space in order to do Hands-On Sexual Healing work relative to the US where it’s completely off limits in so I because of that adapting to that reality and also is a permaculture designer myself I have to think very deeply about how to navigate this issue of for-profit healing work that kind of in most sectors is about like you said I’ll put in my own words it’s like they want to know if if the if you’re at a time of time robot that supposed to be producing a set amount to be a productive member of the of the GDP then then if you’re not functioning properly than the the goal of the mainstream social work or psychotherapeutic or psychiatric Fields they’re trying to get you back into the rat race as soon as possible and they’ll do that with drugs with talk therapy or whatever that is about avoiding through tissue which is the disconnection from urethane from a healthy holistic wild habitat you know a night as a primitivist I see that you know the solution to your Neurosis is to retry belies and Get Growing your own food again in and rebuild that fabric so you know there with you on that tension about right livelihood in and taking money for healing and what is he doing so I really like what you said and that just is going to it’s going to help me a lot looking at healing the cultural level and healing the if I’m understanding right and I’ll put a couple my own words on it but I feel like we’re trying to build the scaffolding or were trying to design the context for people to take the responsibility of a personal healing and gone to that journey and so if you if what would you say are some practical skills are tools from all of your things that you would teaching and training and a things that you discovered in your own journey to where you’re in power tools for empowerment that you suggest or are resources that you suggest people Explorer to if they’re called to do the cultural healing work weather for profit or non-profit. Some dance between the two or it and then what what are some recommendations for people who are on their own path and aren’t necessarily called to do the the cultural healing yeah I mean it’s it’s a pretty vast subject that one but I think that a few points that I could think about and talk about our that I’m going to this idea of bringing you back in the station rights and recognizing that in the absence of them what do we have you know we are we are sadly in there without initiated Elders so many of us and if there are any of Elders that hold that ability to to guide those those ones are those are worth their weight in gold you know there really is people that we should try to lift up and and give them their recognition and see you know and then in the absence of that it’s like we kind of by default Our Generations people that will have to hopefully fulfill that and reach a place where we can actually help upcoming generations to go in a way that they don’t have to completely go it alone and and figure it out on them on their own the way that so many of us have had to and so there is a movement around Rites of Passage I sit on the board if you passageways which is a network that focus is squarely on you no Rites of Passage for you coming of age from all different walks and and and modalities you know some of them are our Boys to Men oriented some of them are girls to women some of them are starting to incorporate non gender binary kind of approaches as well which is good and and this whole focus on bringing back the ancestors into looking at Rites of Passage is is starting to happen and something that I focused on and so that’s that’s a resource you know people can go to youth passageways. Oregon and look at what programs are out there and they can also think about how they can add to that list and bring in things that are needed around especially around sexuality and relationship which is often I noticed kind of a big gap in a lot of programs out there you know because they’re confined confined or constrained by the conservative values where they take place and you know what school system is you know this is one of those places lagging for that kind of thing so it’s a role that I think that many people who understand the need can step into and cultivate as career paths you know and some people are pig figuring out how they can weave their credentials says on Sexual Health Educators or sexual therapist or sexual trauma or no trauma-based therapists you know into this realm of initiation and that’s that needs to happen on a on an increased level the other I see a lot of because of what I was saying around looks really don’t how many Avenues to learn other than through you know what the books in the workshops and offerings around sexuality thoughts unfortunately are not rooted in in people’s only need two lineages generally speaking you know so the whole Tantra movement is pretty much so you know a cultural appropriator of New Age fight version of those Traditions that would have been squashed by Christianity especially and so I think there’s work to be done there and as much as possible Retreat retrieving reconstructing are reconnecting with our own ancestral Traditions which I’m sure you know had their own knowledge wisdom around how to how to raise healthy harmonious individuals with healthy sexualities from from the vantage point of how what little I do know has been has been done in indigenous cultures and without wanting to appropriate for them from them I’ll just give way of examples out of that you know in and certain cultures that are studied like the Mayan culture and I think to some degree on certain places within Creek culture there’s examples of how as societies you know that the children are raised from an early age 2 reach a point where they understand how to how to harmonize with the other sex and how to to look after each other and that’s just a very basic principle that I feel like you know that’s that’s worth kind of learning how to integrate into our family structures if we have children that were raising just to keep in mind that you know there is a need for them to learn skills around things like consent and around being responsible with with one’s sexual energies and and I needs to start before they reach that age of adolescence where they’re just harder to connect with if you haven’t built up that Foundation so that’s something that I think about will do you so if I if if we check out that the organization that you mention is it would that be good place to find and something like a more enlightened or more conscious like sexual education curriculum or guidebook do you know if people were working on something like that so if I know if you know parents who were going through the puberty of their child that they have something that’s not just this cold clinical Western and even though that sort of evolving a little bit you know with things like a sack didn’t and whatnot I see a lot but the The ancestral wisdom and you know the ceremonial Rites of Passage you know how does it how does the Modern Family say okay well you’re about to start feeling you know hormonal Energy’s how do we give you know create even if it’s just within their family or their Community yoga or whatever is something more than what’s being offered in the normal sex ed or what they’re listening in gangster rap music and watching on sitcoms obviously you know it’s enough for lack of lot of alternative options it’s one one place to look and we’re always looking for others so whenever we discover something then we will see to auditory resources and we are trying to vet those resources and those organizations to make sure that they really are you know at least there’s some some level of you know safe recommendation that we can give for those those organizations we’re not we’re not in the position to really kind of completely you know set standards but we are trying to we have a code of what we call it a cross-cultural protocol so we do look at that aspect that you have for what we’re talking about that’s you know if that’s another layer that we will hopefully get to eventually and I do know that there are people within our Network who are really strongly focused on this particularly around girls to women kind of education and and Rites of Passage and some of the Boys to Men once but I think it’s also something we need to to enhance as well oh that’s great yeah that’s that’s that’s what I wanted to hear so that I can just refer people to this ongoing and so and then the LSI is kind of its there’s a Facebook I’ve been interacting with the the Facebook group for a while so is that something you recommend people plug-in I mean that’s the goal of that is to feature blogs and generate discussions from those blogs and also to establish a resource of services as well as information and so that’s you know running on in a very limited volunteer capacity and so you know it’s something that I hope will eventually become a very powerful resource but already it’s you know it’s been feedback that I’ve received that you know even just the the group that we have on Facebook somebody posted recently. You know it’s really help them in their in their path which is nice to hear and I’ve heard that a few times and I try to curate that group in such a way where it’s like you know it’s trying to generate discussion and it’s it’s trying to be a safe space where where people can get into some of those I’m intimate revealing is of what what’s going on in their lives one of the things that kind of came out of love sex intelligence local as a connection with Tamara and the love school that they have which is a very congruence philosophy to love sex intelligence and they’re their work to try to create or with to create safe spaces for people to to share stories of what’s going on in their intimate lover sexual lives and and B witnessed in a way that is non-judgemental where they’re not being flooded with advice but more just being witnessed which is kind of connected to that whole framework for Rites of Passage itm witnessing each other and so it’s it’s trying to also look at how you know communities can succeed in their in their goals which might include you know like being more sustainable or being an alternative to the systems around us and also being a part of a more peaceful kind of culture through filling this hole that is often where things go wrong where people are are are not feeling safe to talk about these these human experiences around wounding around are our hearts and our sexuality so I’ve been part of a Practice Group here that has been circulating also to other parts of BC and I think it’s a really it’s a really powerful movement to be a part of yeah we’re getting close to an hour or so I have to take a few more minutes and I’m get a couple thoughts and feelings some responsible for 1 something that his is coming up for me that I think it’s really empowering is this like idea that wouldn’t it be nice if some of us started to think of ourselves as aspiring Elders I’ve never thought of it that way until this conversation and there’s a little spark of joy and me that that says you know puts in context the the punk rock lifestyle that I had of live fast Die Young and just you know if it’s not throwing yourself into the meat grinder of insurrectionary activism you know with this sort of Death Wish you know this martyr complex or whatever it’s like those are really unsustainable archetypes to follow and they leave a lot of people when they get to my age in about 35 like in a sort of existential crisis that will the revolution didn’t happen and I didn’t get killed I didn’t die in the gutter you know I mean what am I going to do now and it’s like well maybe it’s time to become an aspiring Elder and you know clean up your act and and then start to think about how you’re going to make it easier cuz I there’s a lot of things that I had to go through that I would seriously love to have no one else ever have to go through and if you know if we can live in that. you know that is what you’re supposed to think that I think of you say you know you can you can learn from the wisdom of Elders who have gone through and made the mistakes that you’re probably going to go through or you can just be hard-headed and learn all your lessons the hard way but I mean we’ve had to learn a lot of hard lessons in the absence of the eldership but I think if we take on that there’s a yeah me too. It seems obvious but really the way you put it his medicine for me to think you know it’s a dignified path to be an aspiring Elder and then it makes you not be so how do I can help you defeat that that that grinding pressure that oh my I’m going to lose my looks and I’m going to lose my energy and I’m going to be in the state of deprecation towards death and that’s very much the greatest fear of the western manicured Uno photoshopped airbrushed identity like you’re not really giving any hope that aging will be of any benefit in here just marginalized further and further so I thank you for that serve very much still give that time sacred eldership dignity not a light title to hold I think the true Elder wouldn’t really feel comfortable in it cuz it’s defining attributes of an elder that is really one that can help that role be the best it can be is one that is is really accountable is really present isn’t so on the move that if you can’t you know be relied upon to be there for the people that it serves now needs to ideally be in the in the fellowship of other Elders to kind of keep it in in in check in a way like we have to watch for the Cole group kind of phenomenon where people you know place a lot of weight on that person and in a way that can privilege them in certain ways and also lead to potential like power distortions and things like that you know it’s it’s only human that people will make mistakes and so having that kind of accountability of other people and also that time yeah you have people heart or a different there’s always like in every phase of life with the lifecycle there’s there’s like the maturing phases and so there’s like you know there’s a baby elder there’s enough adult Elder and then Senior Elder and so it’s just we have to learn at each stage of Life how to become the mature version of what that stage is and says just something to think about as well and it’s good to to get your feet wet early on in life so that you know we can have deep roots and and the and those are the kinds of people to like in the Tamara situation out of the black community they have a circle of Elders who are basically people who have grown with a community enough that they know the people in their community and then they serve a role as potential kind of like the Matchmaker but you know in a way where people can approach them in and ask them like you know I’m interested in this person and they can help you assess whether this is the right time or what is a good or bad idea and you know they can kind of that. Whole courtship in a way that you know really I think I wish there were more of those people around here don’t you let me relax you know learn the hard way what does that we’re just not compatible certain people in The Matrix the I mean yeah I’m not I’m not a political scientist of the Matrix but I will say that what got me peaked on the ecstatic trance dance group ritual ceremony festival thing was it really when I saw I think it was maybe the second movie or maybe it was the second or the third but there was a scene where they’re just getting down to like Juno Reactor I think was a soundtrack of a butt there is something beautiful about seeing the different the warrior culture Guided by elders and of course there’s different the archetypes playing out in Conflict split that to me was took it further than then the Star Trek Federation is a futuristic Elder guided Council guided kind of reality so that was kind of fun but yeah so that’s what came to mind when you’re at we’re talking about that be so cool if you’re early sexual oracle’s who you go to you know if we’re going to give you insights and maybe even have name your child for you or something cool like that you know be so cool but right on then will I worry about at the hours so do you have any closing touch you want to share or any other resources or should we just I’ll post the the links that you mention and I’ll definitely encourage people to stay informed and keep an eye out for your anything coming up you have any appearances or anything exciting like that coming up you want to mention I think yeah I think I covered a lot of it and I just wanted to maybe plant a seed while I have the airwaves here about something that I’d I’d eventually like to work on presenting which is around insert Intercultural relationships and also decolonizing our relationships as well and just thinking about how how we can heal some of these ancestral traumas and use that has as as a means to strengthen our relationships and also our society right on I’ll be looking forward to everything that you’re you’re expressing in the world and I hopefully yeah maybe sometime in the future we can talk about skill sets for Beyond Christian monogamy that would be a great topic so yeah how would you feel about that maybe we can sometime in the next few months follow up with something like that. Maybe by the by the time I’ll have more of a personal lived experience to a base conversation around that I think you know in terms of people who are already I don’t know how many listeners here are on a Christian spiritual path without that many but if the energy and gnosticism and sacred marriage not going to the alchemical top in the in the Gnostic tradition but I I wouldn’t make any claims to be an expert in that area but it’s definitely something to look at cool alright then we will be in touch and will follow up sometime in the future and thank you so much so be I really enjoyed it and I know it’s taking us a while to get this to get this done but I think it was perfect and I couldn’t ask for anything more so you have a wonderful day. 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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin rackers I’m I’m so pleased and honored and delighted to be here with you under a Terence McKenna at his funeral be found here in Venice Beach and the thing I like to do with gas specially if you’re well established in you need no introduction is really jump right into a blue sky budget kind of visioneering discussion of what the world looks like now that we have achieved our greatest Wells hopes and dreams because the funds has been allocated for great you know Grande works and projects to be done so that the thing I want to ask you to focus on for this conversation is how would the world look now that the science the Psychedelic science of Astral ecology is firmly in place and we have things like Latin taxonomy and high school textbooks and a sort of standard of the discourse in different theories and laws and principles all that would comprise a burgeoning psychedelic Sciences will called astral ecology so you’re looking back now on all of your achievements and all the headlines to get to this point in the future where it’s firmly in place and well understood and the stuff that we take for granted is now substantiated what does that world look like from your perspective thank you so much gracias gracias Gracias Madre gracias Bend it’s a perfect world and I don’t think we’ve ever in this turn of the wheel understood what that me and I don’t think we can understand what that means just from the mind I think we have to feel it with the hot and you know not just the Psychedelic but all they’ve in the NT Jinzo even the word Shamanism but what that connects to which is the web of life and the Web of Life which continues and extends and permeates and radiates in vast fix soupy Union with and through all things I mean in my experience is what I’m coming more and more into enshrinement bar and more into recognition of is that Web of Lies you know it is that microorganism which is the sentience concrescence of Old Spice thyme into Masa decide the year of when we reach a perfect age course it’s always a wise perfect it just doesn’t feel that way and look that way because we’re stuck in the moment we’re stuck in note amongst the network or a particle amongst the wave when we remember our place in the web and remember that we are in fact the ocean not the drop then everything melts away and the unity of Oneness of everything becomes apparent again and in that scenario with some of my language are being superhero being around these he’s the galactivation to me I’m still unsure of how that incarnates and how that means we function as organisms on the material plane with an awareness that we’re Eternal working away like nodal Point reflections of God in matter or the sauce or whatever language you said to you care to delineate it with Phil essentially I think I’m coming around to a lot of the Dreamtime me thoughts of the Australian Aborigines an indigenous coaches they’d understand that we once lived in a world where all these invisible ecologies of the astral land of the Soul with visible all with tangible in some sense and that we engage with them on a daily basis in fact you know we may go into that in the dreaming each not when the sugar is the lowest in the trip to Maine’s the highest and what that reveals is the multi-dimensional plateau of Consciousness that is inhibiting certain templates they may not be physical as we understand the might be energetic then maybe physicalness on the Vintage Attic frequencies if you were to step into that frequency and Body on that frequency it’s the whole understanding that Consciousness is a receiver as well as a transmitter and then you just changing the channels on the dial and my current little reef is that it’s a pan galactic BitTorrent and that we’re all only different species have a different take me to the torrent Emerald cytosol proceeding any a life and Consciousness is that the program that is loading until I wonder if what it will be like and I feel like what it will be like will be what does indigenous cultures and said it said you wake up and there’s almost no discernible fluctuation between waking and dreaming it’s like your body is at rest your mind is rejuvenating and producing the neurochemical flush it needs to optimize itself for another day working on it and you know you wake up if there’s a transition from your dream Skype and then you’re back in the extreme Skype you change the channel with full conscious awareness to imagine being conscious 24/7 all the time all the time all the time and it even when you die you step into that Consciousness and are conscious of Consciousness all the time I mean you have then become a fully aware Go activate it being that understands the gift are coming down into these fleshly bodies with an off switch right and end the sacredness of the vessel that we inhabit and the reason why perhaps we had Galactic seasons are in a galactic seasons of Consciousness where there’s a ton of the world Asian you have the dog cage in the Bronze Age and you laid up in the Golden Age which is the Pinnacle way we’re receiving food 5 bug let it go ahead signal to read from the source of the Galaxy the black hole at the center of our galaxy and then Consciousness comes in and inhabits and connects us to what permeates from the center of the Galaxy which is life life life and life will be no light from the sun which accredited by the black holes but as the Mayans believe that the center of the Galaxy hunahpu was the womb of the great mother on this is social Consciousness radiating out woods so I’m imagining being this entity this being that is aware of my Galactic connection to all those things and the gift of my individuality and I’m going about my day in a dream time Consciousness where I can Pat see entities in the astral ecology around me and you know it’s like now with language we have stop signs over there do not answer Runway stuff we have things written on the sidewalks and things written you know everywhere and then is there’s information every way we choose to look on the linguistic level and if we look at the plants over there there’s information if we choose when Verizon into connecting to read the thing and you know I’m not telepathic super-union level we are communicating with all the old living things who recognized if they are us and we are them because we’re not limited to the understanding of our Consciousness in this individual form as a as a drop we have to remember that we are the ocean so at some level the grand Galactic Gestalt has self-organizing to cohesion and remembers itself so the whole point of Mystics the right time going up and transcending the body to achieve Union with the godhead all the sauce and then once you get there it’s all very wonderfully wonderful but then in truth you know what I realized is that the source pencil it’s time incarnating back down here into into the matter world and so those two Pathways and the terrain that they Traverse Halo extensions of it and when I describe myself I am extension of it and so are you and so with the listeners and so is that trade until it’s that freaking stop sign so imagine having a Consciousness which can hold these Concepts within not just your mind but your heart that you are connected in every waking moment to everything around you in unbroken web that’s distributed Consciousness that’s why the internet is coming that’s why I’m you know 1943 Albert Hoffman got that strange presentiments to go back to that 25th lysergi compound and go and it broke out through the lab to enshrine us as a psychic lubricant to get out of the egoic Linea time and of this understanding of cause and effect in just a Linea understanding of time yet this cause-and-effect but imagine if everything is connected underneath the root system of space-time then calls an effective is holographic right and so play walking through a day you making coffee you’re making love y’all making love to the world like it would feel to me completely galactivation Citizen and you need to wait for the thing is he wants permission from the fruit the vegetables the animal and this is what indigenous cultures understood you need to wait you ask that he go that tiger whatever and it’s like we need to continue out apparently individuated Lifeforce where I can you permission to give yourself up and if we eat you you will be, how does that sound cool but there’s an energetic transfer on a very big so many clever way that is very true you are what you ate and the web continues and the energetic vibrational entrainment of the knowledge of the creatures that you ate goes into your template and we merge on some level so I mention there’s a result of mystification from all the sentient creatures as we go about a diet understand that we’re in happening individual forms yet we are all emanations of the same Central sauce and in that my fellow Divine Network that connects a soul where where that says and so you can sort of Ted between browsers remember you’re gone for MemberSource Consciousness had back to record Consciousness had my way to Barrack Obama Consciousness or Donald Trump Consciousness and this is why it is so important that is so important in the unified field Theory grounding through the collective aided being that we understand that people is one even Donald Trump is off right that everyone everything down to the smallest microbe and the smallest insect up to the Dalai Lama is important and is part of the web of life and with the Dalai Lama you know he doesn’t kill mosquitoes when it kills thing because of you the stands and this is the giantest approach in Indian philosophy that if you understand that everything is fake red and sacred because he needs you and you are red you don’t want to divert the course of its flowering ring I need the expression of its course on Earth because that is called expressing itself through that creature and so if you can help it you don’t want to kill it and then if you do kill it do it with the responsibility of knowing that it will become you when you eat it and that you’re exchanging energies so then you go out into your world of these blows apart the the transforming 20th century powered on what reality then we’re at the stage now was like you know green means becoming deep green memes and entheogens and chamonix live streams integrating into into the Western culture is it is it may just with indigenous culture we have one world not necessarily government but a unified World which understands and merges Easton West and holding you and the binaries converge but we’re still looking at it come with in the Box we can have it now it’s still think all right so will Obi-Wan let permaculture Gardens ecovillages their Toronto be transformed will fix the planet who love one another we will share Adobe no money because when will reach you know Apple in Google merge into planet gopal in the lowline Shay’s 7 billion Shades as Citizens which you know voting rights and we’ll see the company to full maximization of goods and resources around the planet and all of that is true that is a perfect world that will happen but the icing on the cake was still not in boating and anchoring a hot is this connection to all living things and what that means to the systems we have in place now so that’s my breakfast after breakfast I don’t know I’m free I’ll see what comes out of things that come up for me as your speaking is like okay the the Practical laypersons guidebook to spiritually collage vocal hygiene and I like when you were talking about the you look at this landscape that we feel like we have know some people would say we feel like we’ve mastered if you know for lack of a different word but the idea of putting up all these parameters on the way we move and the stop signs on stuff if there was a a shamanic sort of them way to guide people through simultaneously existing in that higher dimensional ecology where there is a shadow biosphere with opportunistic entities that you know whether or not they’re consciously intelligently evil the way we might you know think of bad guys you know being possessed by demons or something but just the opportunistic entities that you would want to take a spiritual hygienic bad refresh your your your aura and have guidelines and standards that that even if you don’t understand all this higher-level philosophical and cosmological stuff the average person just knows you don’t want to sit there and just do on hating somebody that you resent for a long time because this is the Practical result and if you want to get the snapshot of it so you can go in a ceremony and you’ll probably be given you know some psychedelic Scott they use in to what you’re harboring and how you should probably you know scrape those Barnacles off your your chakras or whatever you know if you have any just off the top of the cuff kind of thoughts on after we Embrace this paradigm shift and people are really enjoying it more knowing the Continuum of ecology and they’re actually starting to get wiser about their habits in a global disa Global psychonaut movement which is still anchored more in the scientific and then you are chemicals that are frequency of things and there’s a global show many Precision switch is anchoring through the infusions and different traditions and lineages with indigenous people in plants and medicines and Earth medicines and they just two sides of the same coin but all of us are entering into a rain is a being within which we are opening opening basically all Rick fields and you know that the reason I bring language to this differentiation is that one. I might not agree on the language of the other and some countries of that as well but you know what it when you taken things you know you having an energetic activation and your body is changing and let’s Escola to bioelectrical feel dry your biological field is accentuated and shines and is it if we can figure Asian and if you look at it you know I’ll just Huxley was one of first look at it I’d give her the mind that Lodge and what happens potentially with the Brian is a reducing valve of information that’s always present that fool girl activated Consciousness which is always there that we have taken down and the band with has been reduced and when we open it up we getting more information if you if you extend that computer terminology if it was surfing the net without the right software and the antivirus software you can pick up malware in my friend safe are your rights of everyone does amazing Colin’s she has to tell Rick about you know you basically older substances go taking it like browsers and you’re you’re going out onto an it into the internet or of the Planet of the you know the intergalactic to the internet and there is there is other information that there’s other programs out there and you might get an agency which is essentially this is some program we should be safe out there we may encounter it and you may get Mel wet and you need to have protection so in the show Mannix would have power. I’m not that I would you no understand that using more language that small famiglio and looking at some of the structures in relationships that I might may say that it’s made it to you but they make all of the spirit and they may say that inhabit some realm and you going into that realm of that spirit and you just got crashed their freaking frequency man and so you know he was a French doctor who founded the tacky wants the Iowa clinic in tear apart are about 20 years ago I told him at the maps conference in 2013 and you know what he said and he’s beautiful stupid English and his bravery hot open man he was saying look at the Westin trying doctor his work with Ayahuasca is well and he’s helping cleanse and Purge people of unwanted energy to go pick up in their bio energetic field and there’s a scientific for the modality around that but eventually he’s also embracing the indigenous Paradigm of entities and spirits and he signed it if you don’t believe in these things it doesn’t mean they’re not going to affect you it’s like you’re having unprotected sex and Dunn believe you going to pick up in Eclectic exes to date you know what you might be fine for the first three four times in the first time when you get it and you know it it’s like the other Boy Scout motto be prepared you know I’m sorry I encouraged, notes and Psychonauts to be prepared and just to to have a practice and I have an understanding the matter what language they use and what their belief system is to prepare themselves what they mean Cancer and yes I can oats as well as always you know quite often report these encounters with entities in tryptamine didn’t a tryptamine Top Spice whether they believe in Jesus or not I think the thing with indigenous cultures and shamanic and Mystikal cultures across the world is that they have lineages and traditions image many of them have mapped these different frequencies and states of being and I can say all those things you know it is a phone so they they are so that’s why they’ve already encountered them they’ve mapped them they know not to trade in those fields but then even if you do you know how do you do so with your psyche Gomery the shaman you know has modalities at their disposal way then which they form relationships with Gordon straight allies they may use the black Puma the end of humor the jaguar or a dragon or you know you can do a lot of NLP techniques my other friend meriana dinkova she teaches a course in navigating open States and uses load of NLP techniques to potentiate your own belief system and those type of allies would for indigenous people because they know the power of the jacket with fur in Cincinnati now it’s one of the strongest animals in the jungle and they know that role for us the of that that entity and then I can draw upon that on the Astro to protect them from other entities for Weston is it’s just just a word that animal they might not hold any resonance with so she suggest drawing upon your own culture bank and drawing upon your own archetypes and you may you know you’re my like Batman why do men lie kickoff on the astral with Spider-Man as you don’t protect aghadoe invoking the qualities of Spider-Man on the Astro and you know during the web shooter thing with your fingers when you encounter an entity because if you believe it to be true it becomes true but that’s not to the degree that you are naive going in to confront you look so good with your web shooters but you know what I didn’t think the purest hot the thing is Grayson and so all these entities of vibration and then either attracted to people that already have certain vibrations and you know you might not in Canada, so I’ve been through right he’s a Bible maybe once or twice and counted doc malevolent things and I’m not saying I’m better than anyone I’m just because whatever reason I just don’t end up in those Realms if I did you know some of the early spring says I had that I recounted in my book higher Awakenings I remember the ceremony where there was this guy who was like a stroll suicide bomber let Lucy’s home Variety. Sand ceremony at everyone and then we’ll just spinning around everywhere in the curandera was creating his like Whirlwind voltex to suck them up and you know it’s just a matter of like forming a shield so I had this whole Cote II skin of electricity is Kim khazei wants to scribe you know you just work with whatever archetypes you truly believe in and push it where could you know pump that muscle because what you believe to be true to the degree these believe it accentuates and empowers you’ll psychic muscle and the purest of the mole you know play the pure you can be in your belief in your in pain and hold that I don’t think they can touch you so you know I would encourage people to investigate their own traditions and lineages from other cultures which may resonate with them I think that many of us have a past life connections or energetic resonances with different Traditions you made me to Buddhism you may be into Shapiro Shamanism you maybe into ceremonial magic in the in the western style he may be in Terence McKenna you know all of these are modalities which was the more you learn in the more you take off the the coal to train yourself and to find a lineage in to find teaches you can believe in and trust and you can make that lineage up by yourself you can patent mansion and we even have a bit of Spiderman here in a bit of should be by there and it’ll be okay if you believe it you know if you make it work for you and one single thing that comes up a lot is like the false dichotomy between the idea that entities are subconscious fragments that are embedded within one’s own personality they’re not free-standing discrete entities that have you know any ecology or a habitat of their own what not and then there’s you know the more shamanic perspective which is did they do exist in ecology and it’s kind of like mosquitoes you know you either have bug spray or you don’t and you’re going to feel them if you don’t haven’t been prepared like an interesting fact I think something has come to me that bridge is that. The economy is to say that you know whether or not you believe they exist only as you know Nation or if they are freestanding what what what can bridge that Gap is the idea that your reaction to the phenomenological experience of it either in powers or disempower them to the point of dissolution or completely take an arm wrestling match you know what I mean to do does that how does that bounce off of your thoughts today whatever is parasitizing you opportunistically whether it’s from within you or freestanding separate entities depending on what you subscribe to you are always in control and it’s about building at 4 of strength as a spiritual Warrior to me about that the Wolves you know there’s two wolves inside the young man one of them’s good one of us evolve which one’s going to wait feed feed the good wolf bad wolf I think that’s a lot if we have to be worried has its bad sharpening that blade and start taking responsibility for every thought every word every action every deed because it ripples out into the web and you are responsible and you do a tracks what thing is coming to your field and it’s all a lesson and you know it’s the ability to see that is how you grow from that and then you continue that possible so yeah I mean this it is this what to be done so so in the astral ecology if we’re going to get a little bit more nuts and bolts mechanics, a textbook ecology or biology something that I’m particularly interested in and control Gaston is the notion that as as as we’re coming to grips with you know Psychopathology being the function of infestations of Critters are creatures that are malicious towards us but for all I know there their they’re taking big bites out of our chakra energy to happily feed their their their young children to their reality they’re just you know taking a free lunch wherever we provided and I would call maybe you know smart parasites that know how to Dig Inn & Foster negative thought and behavior patterns that are going to be beneficial to them and harmful to us typical parasitism more and more about examples in nature of smart parasites that are going into jacking into the nervous system and literally if you want to use the word possessing possessing ants to drive themselves up against their you know adaptive strategies to survive to the high points the cordyceps is one example and then they do that with the answering this is the longest which infects the end particularly speciated to match other and does 1/4 steps of variation / different discs speciated type of different hats so it’s like so specialized the way that he first had to work and it’s like your population will be kept in check by your friend here the cordyceps that looks like this and function this way but they all they all function the way the Christians would describe demons possessing them into you no favors that are the original Hebrew week old testament’s type of mapping of the vanities where you have you know it was the Angels you got the dominions in the Thrones and the cherubs and there was like nine types of Angel and they have a dictionary of Angels in this 1002 e Logan than that yeah I’ll land in the AL assembly with that ancient Hebrew understanding as well the demons were Angels originally that fell with Lucifer from heaven and you know it’s so it’s like a sandwich when you turn it upside down everything Finds Its Own balance and residents and one Leia builds upon the next layer and repeated that language for a C5 everything eats when is eaten and everything is connected in the web so it’s a question of how much ortona me do we really have and you know the freeway versus predestination thing I guess comes into play but also it without giving up our Free Will and honoring our autonomy and the sacredness of that being in the gift we’ve been given how much can we then say well I don’t want to be possessed by a voodoo Louis. And driven to do things I don’t want to do all we using the Antonella Jeep with the fungus and it’s affecting it Levinson. Recent studies with the mad cat women and is toxoplasmosis I think it’s cold and it’s basically they discovered that there’s a there’s these bars to get into the mines and then the it makes the lights go right up to the cabin beaten by the cat and the cat is a carrier of this virus and he’s hosted in the cat and then it goes into the humans and they have these people usually women who ends up you know with 20/30 constant and it’s it’s scientifically pretty much proven that I think why don’t some of the year ago and so what we say Rodger perspective is that nature is an overlapping intersecting a set of relationships and what we’re trying to establish and and sementi is white relationship unhealthy relationships over what we perceive it for now individual selves as negative relationships because from the perspective of these viruses that great it’s like wow humans are a great feeding field to form relationships with infant them there right relationships but enough they may engender negative experiences but those ladies they get the companionship of the cat make it to hang out I get love from the cats the cats get mice it just for the mice that have to feed themselves into the web of left to become the cats so it’s somewhere in the chain something is always giving up its Owatonna to be eaten by something else now that’s not necessarily bad that’s natural for us is Sovereign beans and what we think of is the top of the food chain and in the spiritual food chain back in the Bible this is whole thing with a tomato is given dominion over or older animal and plant kingdom over the world and Adam kossman was the name of he was the one who named things and they had that level of Consciousness if I have spell out of the unity field when you not donate language but then in the naming of things you exerting power over them and distance and separation from them and in that relationship we will the man was meant to have authority and Dominion as the highest Michener in the food chain and so we’re not meant to be possessed by the things are written by other things because way we ate other thing I meant there’s a responsibility in that but you know it was the start of folding out of unity Consciousness in and leaving the garden which was the start of civilization as we know it which is where it all went wrong you know if it’s if that in itself was all is also a reflection of the Turning of the world ages in the fact I believe that what they saying in different world ages that there are different levels of consciousness would like cold 5 bog Lexie got a conscience and we went down to one bar or my is Nova and the eagle has claimed that sells Road the whole bunch of civilization when in fact and when you have full bandwidth you become the vessel for Unity Consciousness in you to be that Sovereign being and to be that spiritual warrior in the world into one to stand right relationship and do understand how to navigate their relationships with all the organisms including the micro bacteria and the astral ecology but having said that I would say that we done yet Philly want to be corrupted or infected with a negative relationship organism so we need to learn how to maintain our equilibrium and now energy required fields and go into these natural ecology and not take on board the shit right time is going into the ocean you he’s got to swim in the ocean here in Venice Beach you might step on Plankton and might be old microorganisms you may get bitten by a blue bottle Laura some animal in the water or you might just pick up something that gives you a skin rash you’ve gone by thing in the ocean unprotected so how do you know a low in tribally we know now we will do on pollution warnings in the ocean we wanted to the levels we applied science to the environment that we inhabit and this is why is science has to come back into Unity with what they perceive is mysticism which is only been split to five hundred years or so is chemistry broke off from Alchemy right now you look at The Cutting Edge Quantum science it is freaking fucking Mystikal I mean it’s just a different language but won’t the things they are saying types of of non-jew Consciousness and quantum entanglement and the future affecting the past and oldies type of mystical wisdoms which are exactly like the Traditions have said previously this is a different language fold them but let’s apply rigorous scientific inquiry to Inna dimensionality and let’s use these a hundred million dollars all I have a much this new Russian billionaire has given to the city program in the search for intelligent life and let’s just look at the ecology around us don’t you have to go to Alpha Centauri to find intelligent life that isn’t human you know let’s start really having a perspective that looks at the density of dimensionality and looking looking closer to home now did the podcast a few years ago with a woman could Susan Joy Rent-A-Center who is an astrophysicist and she also has a deep spiritual understand but just on the physic the line she wanted his old The Cutting Edge developments and verified double bond science which looks at what’s really happening and astrophysics is one of the most sly delek even surviving cancer and their appreciation of life itself and of what’s Happening you know the owner is now is we’ve crossed over the electric of the Galaxy and we both been bombarded with d-pad Galactic energies because we’ve been almost like in the back roads you know one one one Dirt Road Little Women and weight in busier and busier time so we’re getting hit by the energy of this magnitude which is a hundred thousand times more powerful than house on every seconds and that energy is being absorbed into the galactic and from the galactic into the out solar system every planet in our solar system verified by NASA you can look this up is undergoing its own form of global warming they’re all it’s overwhelming the Red Spot on Jupiter is changing I read somewhere recently you need to double-check this but that was saying that the conditions for an atmosphere of forming on the moon older different planets are experiencing just great change to the same level as us you know it because there’s energy coming in from deepest sauces and energy as we know it can’t be created or destroyed is only transmitted but it has to be anchored inside the Sun is out central point point of life in in our solar system it is absorbing a 64 Galactic energies and you know my shorthand for his son is having a sungasm is basically maturing as an entity and it’s having to almost like Celestial Tantra itself into had a deal with it and when a candle in the uprising and it is going to discharge his energies and have a mass coronal solo flight ejection it’s going to ejaculate rides those energies from the father-son which then it’ll bring down on that and we know that these type of solar flare events happened regularly in logical the time of a hundred thousands of years PlayStation gems it sells in or on one level you can say unfortunately it does burn the score to the surface of the Earth and it does extinguish you know 95% of whatever this is a very great degree of the species but again we get fixated on phone we get fixated on individuality and ego and being scared of death right in this happens all the time in the cycles of nature As Above So Below macro and micro levels so in nature when there’s a forest fire certain breeds of trees only a germinate they see when the shell has experienced enough hate to open and then when the forest by a goes through New Life is born and that’s the cycle it it does this earring in the scorching and it gets rid of the old to refresh and renew and rebirth than you and these this is the natural macro Scott’s cycles of time and if we don’t hold on to the idea of buying because the physical form is destroyed in these great solar flare events but what happens is the planet is in Dynamic tantric relationship with the sun and when does the sun gasm is Essence light itself has all the different component constituent Parts in the corner of light but it is also information it’s more than just a static mental understanding of what light is light is not just quanta is quanta that holds Quantum Code if you will write a net code is received reciprocally by DNA The Proven recently that DNA and meets its own biophotons and is sensitive to light it emits light and DNA is designed to receive light this is what a mini the Mystic tradition for saying not just about the pineal glands and all of that with DNA absorbs the code of life itself so when you comes in from source which is the Whitehall on the other side of the black hole and when it black holes birth starving to being which is what current astrophysics says with a Galaxy Y Jets of plasma which ignites by stopped in the constituent components which existing spice star is a born star radiates their own plasma entities and the electrical universal theory of the energy being transmitted and then they radiate that light which is not just a pleasant mcintee but is also a Quantum Code for DNA which forms on the wound versus of a habitable planets which again you know this is whole thing in physics which understand that they have for the great hero their life wouldn’t exist in the in the conditions for live are a miracle according to science to kiss thickly the anomaly is ridiculous get it does there’s a consensual Grace which exudes from Souls all the way down through all the constituent parts to oski now and as living beings on Earth in the womb verse of the earth as it’s an organism between Apostle when is solar flare mascarenas Hall of Fame induction comes down it burns through the biomass of forms Falls away and those bioelectrical fields which are anchored in our body that energy cannot be created or destroyed he rejoins the pool of biological field of the Earth itself and the next great blossoming begins this is what we have crossed the Event Horizon over into this is what we are leaving through this is the start and this is what climate scientist who won not tied up by the companies and I’m not afraid of the political ramifications of the word and hoping Silence by the great majority say they say we are at the cost of the next great Ice Age and then basically the global warming is the the initiatory process for the heat discharge the buildup of hate the melting of the polls global warming is happening yes there is manmade manmade you know contribution to the global warming but there is also a very large degree of energy coming in from out sun and from Galactic energies which the main driver of the process and they leave improving it recently in in physics and astrophysics physics that cloud formation is controlled by cosmic rays top of that planet it sits in a galactic an Intergalactic and it all one large micro purses and so when this activation galactivation prices happens this is when the phone rings of being pulled away but the energy goes back into the pool of being of the planet and the tantric relationship between the Sun and the Earth and the magnetic field connections a such that the activation code is is is transmitted and DNA itself receives it and I’ve done decoy line samples in the Arctic and I discovered that the cosmic-ray bombardment pretty much matches the species spurts when you species are born send you things are born so don’t be this this is a natural process right this is what is underway and the other thing about all of this is why is this shamanic Resurgens happening now with indigenous cultures have held this relationship with plant medicines and threw them in the plants the planet and then turns his Old Rip about the planet has a plan involving the plants right plan plants planet basically the idea is all these cultures around the world have how old is knowledge in this relationship and it how did ankapur it’s all the West lofts in the last turn of the wheel and the last Kali Yuga well that’s when we went down to one bar Consciousness and now what we’ve come full circle we crossed over the Olympics is the whole 2012 Western chronology but what that meant in in a galactic orbit is a we are now lying directly with galactic center of being bombarded by these energies and it’s on baby it’s on the way so the same time this is happening in Western culture specifically there is his renewal spearheaded from the 19th century on in the legacy of post-industrial culture which was totally making this dick and divorced itself from Spirit trying to deny God and say God is dead was totally atrophy from a spiritual connection and resulted in a global battery Farm civilization nine-to-five McDonald’s Paradigm that has crushed the heart love Spirit of the freaking planet but you cannot create or destroy these energy you know it exists this love vibration Easy Spirit exists and so what happened to Western culture is try to deny it creates an equal and opposite reaction under the laws of thermodynamics it spreads it and reinforce is it and the rebound and the blowback has been such that we are now living through a ton of shamanic Resurgence and Remembrance all down divine nature all them beings all about you know Divine spectral Soul bioenergetic field and we are now learning from the doctors does Maestro’s the monsters who have held the spice physically in that lineage with indigenous medicine people are shamans and the real teachers they connect with which all the plants and the plants drink in the lights the light is all right and so for the last 20 pity he’s in Western culture this shamanic surgeons has been inoculated and indoctrinating us to come back to the fold to come back to the Garden to come back he come the NSA helicopters now to come back to an understanding of right relationship with the plants the plan and the planet and this cleansing that has been happening in Albay winner Jared Fields where we stole all the negativity the old ahead sold the winds and all the entities that we’ve been connecting to unwittingly in Western culture once the cleansing has been a phase the cleansing has been like the the last phase of the old colleague of the Lost World age in the beginning of this next phase of the golden age and I believe that like the plan what time we have with them inside. We’ve been spending the Troopers once we are cleansed that’s the beginning it’s not the end right this spiritual Warrior ideas once you are cleansed you are a clean receptacle for the lot and this is what the plants do the plants drinking the light and they photosynthesize there is one molecule different between us and plants is the iron molecule which the chlorophyll works with that you know it’s like it’s one molecule different and we are being groomed to remember how to connect to the web of life and to connect to the lot and Beyond the plants is the life itself and built into a programming with the pineal gland and we got DNA itself is the hardware to receive light and so the plants a cleansing us and cleaning us and now I’ve been discovering this very very GC rich and sacred lineage with the another is medicine through both plants and the retarded switch x 5 Meo DMT so these great surgeon interest in tryptamines and DMT trip to Maine with Psychonauts as well as Shaman out across the globe and if you look on all the social media sites DMT interest outnumbers Ayahuasca 10 to 1 at least 10 to one and all the social media sites people think is more accessible and doesn’t have the baggage of all this esoteric mystical who hiring Shamanism but still just like Albert Hoffman in the lab the universal intelligence is getting through to wherever around where it needs to get through and inoculating and touching base and connecting with them to prepare for will be time for the Amelia Pond up so he’s a thing Define daimyo DMT is in the Sonoran Desert toad it’s in our brains it’s in the plant the Sequoia tribe who I’m really dealing looking forward to working with you next year they work with only the highest vibrations and they believe that when you establish a Monique relationships you go directly to the top of the food chain and said the short hand is that all the antigens I like bubbles on the Christmas tree all the Tree of Life at the top of the Christmas tree where they put the star the song the light the top of the tree of life is the light the crown right and there’s a high Rocky and is the right relationship and so we’ve been going through this cleansing with all these different modality antigens and psychedelics and they connecting us all preparation for the lights and working with the Sonoran Desert toad in working with the Sequoia width is 1 Visa which is there before y’all hey which contains not just the MAO inhibitor of the dumpsters copy Ayahuasca Vine they add me to plant I work with his won’t be so which contains high levels of 5 Meo DMT and in that Brew you will experience more want lots and more of those frequencies the high frequencies which I believe the Buddhist terminology for in the body that is that you getting closer up there the dimensional bada is to the source to the godhead into the white light tunnel experience which leads onto the Deep Oceanic lot the Inner Light Of God right of the unified field and I experienced the Sonoran Desert toad back in April with my dear brother Shaman friend Octavio Rettig in Estrella who works with this legally under the UNESCO or specifics because of his work with the fairy tribe in Sonora Mexico and he travels around the world in ministering the Sonoran Desert toad medicine legally it’s only illegal in 7 countries is fighting me out and he has the right the right credentials with United Nations backing and he’s doing amazing so many quick I just returned from Sonora and working with him in the documentary project to document this and my God I mean the most sacred thing I’ve ever experienced so what I’m understanding is the Sequoia also work with the Life and Adventures of the 5 de Mayo in there I was to brew and they say that you formed right relationships at the top of the food chain with the light and that makes you the unified future where your it can make you that if you go with that process and embody the teachings of the light and a buddy that in your energetic field and then when you come back down from those upper echelon dimensions of light into the morgue radiations all of the other levels of the astral ecology which is what n n dimethyltryptamine shut is us where there’s a natural ecology full of intelligent autonomous is a sentient or Sapient species you are empowered by the biological field It Go light not to fall prey to them not to establish wrong relationship and to be wooed by other dark entities who because you’ll feel your vibrational field he’s all of the lights the highest poisonous to the highest it doesn’t resonate you are protected by the lightning he’s to think this was my love podcast with Dan Schreiber it’s hopeless ultraline language on it and and patent medicine and should I pay his workers at Sequoia and he was also telling me about the darkness ritual which many tribes indigenous tribes across the world still do if you are some play nine days or 14 days in total darkness your brain will endogenous Lasik rate the trip the dimethyltryptamine Dri-Fit there was a Cascade and an order and a right relationship to them and this is where we need to be looking so basically you started with cheese out of 14 days in darkness your brain cells to secrete melatonin wichita’s naturally and melatonin and is like the MAO inhibitor which then strength is the body and get it ready for the next in the Cascade of trip to Maine for the next one is Penny Lane and the one after that is 5 Meo DMT what does and some practitioners who work at 5 Meo to that I helped they helping heal addictions that helping heal all these blockages in people on a somatic level in their bodies as well as they light-filled activation because 5-meo naturally when it comes guys from the brain will go through your body and it dearmas EDM is all the tensions you have stored in your energetic body and in your physical body and you might Purge and you might roll around and you might Express all the energy going through you on this 5 Meo experience but what is doing is it softening and it’s releasing somatic tension that you have stolen this is what your brain will do naturally to your body this is the built-in right relationship of the Mind Body dynamic I meant to be healthy we are meant to be long-lived we are meant to be we are not meant to get sick if we could remember Andre kick-start the right relationship with the wetware about Mind Body Spirit Dynamic it’s all built into a system to eat well to live well it’s in their eye and once the 5 Meo DMT is flushed to the body new release hold as tensions the crystalline grid of your being is anchored and is married with your somatic 40 and then the brain secretes n n dimethyltryptamine and then you trip balls body and you going to want the aboriginals in Australia coldrain time you going to what we discussed at the starred in a perfect world you go into the holographic consensual fractal merging of all things at once but you go in with the lot empowering you you’ll are energetic field remembers higher than that frequency so you do not get lost in that frequency you did not fall prey to the fractal line distributed consciousness of the n n dimethyltryptamine States you are a warrior in that state you can function in that States blank Aboriginal how many quarries did and do right the brain does bees naturally the Sequoia say you go to the lights first and then you do with it other entities in the terrestrial level right I feel this is the way forward and I feel that the wave of the last few generations of chamonix culture with a plant is leading up to the 5 Meo DMT experience to Ankara and flush and received a lot but I meant to let go of all these training wheels to then have a working pineal gland somatic mind-body-spirit activated system to then the song Gardens into the Earth we are going to be ready to receive that mass coronal solar flare ejaculatory gift from God take it in baby hold it in your bio energetic field and let it elevate youth let go of the Flesh and be born into your galactivation where does the temperature Redemptive are you know if Fearless beautiful leader as we sit in a terence’s you know it’s mural here I think about how a lot of people scoffed at the time wave not happening and the Violet doorway not opening at the end of the time-wave in 2012 and what you’re describing what I said is like the only way to you know before that this could possibly you don’t make any kind of physiological sense would be a massive group DMG my Newell you know gushing orgasm relief look at the Egyptians look at Raleigh origin of are in the Sun and ank the lengths alike you know that the light the corner of light and they feasting you’ll like buddy is meant to absorb light you can face that says some of the Indian Mystic to on the sunlight at the beginning of the day of the end of the day it doesn’t hurt your eyes you can feed your pineal gland the train to add apps can even feed in the middle of the day and there is qualities of Life at different times of day then tried to tell me he’s done research into this and you can feed your life buddy and the thing with the with the angsten I’m with the Egyptians is older the iconography know what I’ll show you how the Sun descends into like that pineal gland and and it opens in the blossoms and always ancient cultures they knew these things we fell into the Dark Ages we fell into one by Consciousness we forgot and I don’t know if there are alkanes and you know I knew now key and whatever happened to add DNA in the fall of Atlantis oldies of words to me I am open to all of that I’ve yet to receive any knowledge of that from my shamanic initiation and I don’t want to get bogged down in New Age We would some people might say I love you thanks anyways we work I am experientially not just a journalist but a shamanic practitioner and reset your own and body and I share my knowledge as I experienced a with the tribe who want to go when is Journey with me and I tell you I asked you I beseech you I employ You by playing with you I say join me because these are the times we are the ones we’ve been waiting for it’s on baby or keep it wrapped in so that’s music to my ears again right here under this because I feel like displaying some some Oma’s to Terrance and you know that the whole time wave rap in the kids belief in the Redemption of the casinos. Humanity through dimethyltryptamine and you know this is a Sci-Fi machine elves just curiosity of it there’s the carnival aspect of it that’s just a mistake but but this is this anticipation of what you just laid out right there is taking it to the next level where it’s it’s not just poking around and trying to explore and figure out what is this place how many coaches have already Memphis and what I am doing now I have a little a little side project Terra incognita we’re just launching we are all about embracing left right brain hemispheres scientific neuroscience and Shamanism documenting as we go legally pursuing this work in countries where this is legal and getting hot daughter from the scientific you know side of the brain but also embodying and having a safe container to do this working with the shamanic understanding because as Jack Schmitt said you know what you don’t believe it’s still going to bite you on the bum if you go into these how many grams and I believe the right and move forward with his work is to embrace both paradigms and to do it integrally madera’s I made that they cool that they what is the science of Gran Turismo this is stuff that you can test you can experientially go in there you can test it out for yourself we can measure your you know that you’re easy brainwave levels we can do blood sample test we can tell what’s going on in the outside body and of the neurological level but unless you go in then no one can tell you what’s going on subjectively in your head during your so you know it we need to Mathis we need to cross indicate this we need to be able to unify this and we need a generation of Brave spiritual Warrior’s men and women boys and girls you know we need the hustle children we need to go in there with the purity of heart to know that yes there’s going to be someone blocks yes there were obstacles to overcome this is the time we have the technology we are all the freaking technology right and we have had beautiful souls like parents are going to be full all of this have our filings all of us have you know it we put out best shots you know you can tear it down or you can constructively build upon what is going before and that’s what I encourage us to do to work together to to bring this together and you know if there is so many people in the world trying the best to Anchor this new paradigm to make a fair Equitable World fraud to distribute you know Goods to have everyone clothed and fed and educated and happy and to overcome the seasons of the legacy of History you know the root causes of illness and the money and separation and all of these all of those things come from ego and all of that comes from Consciousness and the best thing we can be doing is tearing said it’s to be going into these dimensions of being and to be bringing back things of value to shave without tribe you know it’s not the little things which is so little that you put your finger into your nose and if it’s nothing big things which is so big that you can’t build a floating pyramid on the on the Amazon River Rises grand for the islands practical things and to have a platform to share this knowledge and to Anchor it and to have a Wiki and to have you no working groups and to not be Reinventing the wheel but to be building the freaking vehicle together you know what doing that with doing that we are vibrant we are alive we have arrived this is the global drive and we are all one yeah I’m records am please subscribe records and I’ll come join me more than a mile unless it’s a movement have any final final thoughts and I’ll see if I have anything that pops out of nowhere and they will go up another tension but that’s a good rap so still love Be Love Give Love let’s be careful out there. Let’s go out there you represent owl species Brave explorers old okay I won final little bit of wisdom from my dear friends the tea fairy and since I’m going public with this and just today in an email exchange I said I wasn’t going public with this but it seems like it’s time sea fairy forgive me this is the Terra incognita always play all of those who listen and feel the cold of action you need to follow that CO2 actually may not be with me but I invite you to those who have gone before to the explorers of the last great sea true heroes old sink or swim to the soul selects adventurous Visionary than mad men like to the courageous and to the curious to the persecuted end to the loft to all of the X-Files with Dad to climb the God and roll to the holy fools the sink is the ambassador’s in the Pioneers to those who had the temerity to storm Heaven and Hell and it was returned with the secret fire to light our way to those who can never remember and to those who can never forget to all of the Intrepid and extraordinary spirits who have played at the edge we who prepared to confront the mystery salute you all right thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. 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