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Designing Conscious Music, Film, and Fashion with Calvin Bliss TPP212

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In this episode I’m joined by my dear friend and creative brother Calvin Bliss for an exploration of his personal and our shared conscious designer multi media projects. We take a journey into the past to remember the great times that bonded us on the dance floor, in the garden, in the music studio, and beyond. It was an exquisite joy to take the time to really honor where we’ve come from, what we’ve accomplished, and how we’ve influenced each other’s evolution as artists.

We then explore his “Deep Inside” track, it’s origin story, a behind the scenes on the music video shoot, and general advice and technical insight on the art of film making and music production.

His new clothing line Elf Tech is introduced and he shares about his journey into the ure, fashion and apparel space as an extension and evolution of his diverse influences in art, culture, spirituality, community, neo-tribalism, eco-futurism, and more.

About Calvin:

Calvin Bliss, AKA: Photon A.D. has been writing music for over a decade, splicing mind-bending glitch grooves over surreal soundscapes overlaying a funky beat. His performances focus on the genres of psybreaks, breakbeat, psytrance, and tech-house. He has played prestigious festivals such as the international Tribal Gathering in Panama, as well as a renegade cruise ship party and a set at the Brown Vortex on Halloween.

Photon A.D. takes his listeners on a journey through sound into the core of their being, uniting minds and hearts in an optimized flow space, fueled by his love for yoga and expanding consciousness.

Among manifesting a delectable dance music career, Calvin also has interest in filmmaking and directed his own music video for “Deep Inside,“ a feature Photon A.D. production. When he isn’t in the studio, Calvin enjoys practicing yoga and attained a Yoga Teacher Training certificate in Rishikesh, India.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin Calvin blessed who has lots of wonderful wisdom and stories to share and we’re going to reminisce a little bit about our origin story together and in the very important. Powerful instrumental role he’s played in in my journey and just want to start off by saying that we both met within the the Psychedelic trance music underground in La back around 2011 and shared a lot of action and envisionary Consciousness around the potential that side trance can have to really help people heal and grow and build community and yeah we’ve been able to collaborate on music and just support each other really is Brothers over the course of many years and so yeah what stands out to you or anything you want you like to share about the early days and now it’s been a few years since we’ve been we’ve been going at it cast of ever been on so yeah thanks for your warm Hospitality but yeah I mean already back in the day and I remember it basically I was like sitting on my couch and I knew this party was going on and I was like I would say I was leaning like 40% towards going and like 60% towards not going and then for whatever reason I just decided to go and yeah and then it was a pretty cool party and then I met you there and I think I just like interrupted some conversation you were having with someone because I heard something interesting you were talking about and then yeah that kind of decision just get off the couch they’re like really kind of changed the definitely the course of my own how way I think about things and lots of other stuff so right on. Yeah I remember that night like it was yesterday and we were talking about really applied psytrance early in a sense of ever being like an open source technology where you could be it could be applying these beats and applying this Rhythm and energy to to actually build Villages build ecovillages together and and take it Beyond just the experience of the dance floor and actually put it to practical use sand in life in and we were just always gives out on kind of hacking site transfer for cultural transfer patient and it’s been a wild adventure since then and certainly you know we’ve added a lot to each other’s lives and I say you know I haven’t felt so much camaraderie in the music kind of romance since I was an early teenager getting in the punk rock and metal you know since then I’ve kind of like lost the passion for those movements to feel like there’s two alcohol and too much on consensual sexuality and just kind of kind of tired and stale politics and but yeah I meant to find to find a really rejuvenating invigorating life-affirming new paradigm / ancient Paradigm of shamanic trance techno music that was conducive to Tantra and conducive to yoga all that stuff matters like a whole new I don’t know who I would be or where I would be without you without you know having share this experience and and I haven’t really shared that experience with too many other people a lot of people you meet on the psytrance dance for you know you’re all in it in the moment you’re all in that present moment but but you don’t always connect outside of that you don’t always you know buddy up beyond that so I just want to again there’s some quote where like you know two people are like these chemical substances you know and their interaction like makes this totally new saying you know this anyway I probably super butcher that quote that says we not the quote but you know it’s just there’s some people that like ignite the spark with each other and yeah I’m really happy to have met you back then and now do you remember that sting you made it was like we’re sitting in the room at this Ranch you’re working on and you’re just telling me about this idea and I think we’re kind of like just expanding this idea together but just of like having sort of like a way to listen to music and do like work together and like we’re like all but we don’t have any speakers blah blah blah and then I was amazed because you just like likes for me like I was just like this like really bad idea but then I see you like in 5 minutes like I’m going to get some tea and I come back and you’re like on a computer hacking some stuff together with some Skype thing and like you like literally made the thing that was just like the idea to me and I think that’s that’s really cool like you know that that you can just kind of connect those ideas like to actually a the physical working thing is that at that point in my life honestly like I had so many just kind of dreams that we’re just like well yeah that be a really cool idea or you know stuff like that but like yeah you definitely kind of opened up the door way to showing me like some of these ideas we have are actually you know a lot easier to execute them that I would think so yeah that was really cool system like we were the couple that what you’re saying it’s like I would not have probably done it and I needed you and I needed that sense of you know it’s like being kids and figuring out that you can put a what connect a wire to two two cans of beans and have telecoms across your ear tree houses and talk after your bedtime you know it was that level of fort building excitement you know me as a mutual a mutual thing like you said and back actually when I was playing playing in Punk and metal bands it was me and this other guitarist and pee in one time somebody who said man you guys are like peanut butter and jelly and it’s a good way of putting it but but yeah man for sure that that was the vibe and and yes might my my kind of mad scientist ideas like Doc Brown kind of idea was to be able to synchronize and create a more harmonious workflow and prevent injuries on like permaculture landscape installations were if you have work Crews shoveling meal together to try to keep it afloat if they don’t bang shovels or or scrape each other and in the end he certainly when you’re turning your back and lifting and things you know the more Rhythm you can have working in teams the better and that’s proven out through all of all of the traditional cultures in the world is still have songs and works on his or whatnot so we can see what we lack that in the West for sure at this point it’s been kind of kicked in crushed out of us but I had this passion about side translate well we could so beautiful and we do not ask for what if we could do that in the garden what if we could do that it when we’re building structures in building ecovillages it would be so great but but we need a way to actually also communicate and you can’t the music is pound and then you won’t have the ability to like communicate verbally about safety or about you know just on a construction site you wouldn’t want to be specially if someone is on the other side of the top of your lungs over the music to try to like talk to them for solving that problem technically was the notion of what what if we can use this early stage smartphone technology to actually run a Skype call and and use it as a third-party plugin to to synchronize and load an MP3 file cuz you couldn’t just like stink it up across a hundred people but they had that thing at the time I think of Silent disco but I don’t think the silent disco had like a walkie-talkie intercom build then so this was this was a hack to get that to happen and then I remembered the moment that that we tested it is like I think something you know it took a couple of tweaks and it kind of work and I didn’t work and then when it fucking works like a football field away from each other doing separate tasks in the Garland jamming to the same beat at the same time and and dancing and talking and it having it be the dream the dream come true my love I think I think that was just a row it’s like 10 minutes before and then it’s like whoa this is really working like dude you’re a genius right now and like like to just literally like I’ve seriously felt like you know like a kid on Christmas because I was like wow I’m dancing to this awesome music right now my friend over there like way over there is dancing the same as you basically built like a silent disco thing which you know those setups are like pretty costly and you’re really technical the bill but you basically built one and then not only that we had this intercom thing to where we could like actually talk to each other and yeah it was like so cool the old dude like check out these lasers on this song and then yeah so that was like really cool so that was my first experience with realizing how how genius you are and how you can like really start creating that reality that I think I think it’s not just you and me and a lot of other people have started kind of like having these glimpses of these visions of this kind of like new paradigm and it was like you had just like turn that glimpse into like wow this is her real tangible experience and it really honestly like can we like what apps are million times more you know advanced in and have to look into it again I just it’s been weird just haven’t been bouncing around so much not having a the real playground to be able to to on that that 16 acre acre ranch to be able to to to really the only thing we couldn’t do there was actually blast the side which I have I don’t think you have I think you have we had just yet you had just barely missed that and are aware I was doing an urban Garden Inn in La I built this whole garden go basically like a burning man style camp on the top of the asphalt at this South Central LA giant Punk Warehouse complex and artist complex and and and there because of the industrial zoning I was allowed to bump the psytrance pretty much 24/7 I don’t know how the people didn’t kill me for getting sick of it but they let me they let me get away with that get away with it and I saw pictures and then some footage there but but that was where I had gotten in that zone if I had just been spending like a year literally bumping psytrance everyday and gardening with it like the secret life of plants and knowing that the whole ecosystem is just totally vibing on and people just watching people come in there and start dancing and fucking shaking it you know shaking the booty chakras and like grabbing some strawberries and just having it all be such an organic thing but but yeah this is like I think it’s all foreshadowing and you know to I was just is this sounded is not more watching you work and you’re a wizard castle of a of a studio making beats and then just dazzling me with your crafts and a video production in and just damn that we just had we have had continually have these bucket list of things to accomplish I think you know yeah I just want to make another note about how you really helps the music of Township on get started from the very first track and you were a Believer you were the first and and and only as Spirit Tasha Punk believer even when I didn’t have the confidence to to believe it would go anywhere or do anything but I certainly felt like I had I had been burdened with this track. I didn’t know what to do with us and you helped put the first beats to it and and yeah we had a sort of creative adventure with Sue Fiona and that that is is held up to this day and really yeah you’re part of that core Collective man so it is really I was like cool that sounds awesome like psytrance goddess worship with awesome vocals Like lyrics like that’s pretty different and honestly though at this at this point I think maybe this is about honestly like a year and a half or two years after I really started producing music so I always kind of just starting to get comfortable with like all this technology I used to actually make the music but I think the one thing that kind of really helped help with that process was I would when I would start like a new song or something I would always like right down on a piece of paper what my intention was for that song Or kind of like what I wanted it to represent or the feelings involved or like yeah like the feeling I wanted to invoke with people so I was super happy to help you and try it and yeah basically we ended up in like my tiny little closet Studio up in this literal Castle in Malibu is on a Mountaintop is pretty cool but yeah we recorded vocals and we ended up trying to do it but then I actually asked you to write down your intention and I was like kind of expecting it to be like you know like oh here’s like a little a little blurb of an intention but your intention was so thorough and like is so details and it it took up accutire page of paper but I think just setting that intention like actually I I think what happened is I didn’t quite have the technical jobs still like finish that song with you I was just you know getting lost in the error messages on the computer stuff and more like some weird thing would happen right so I didn’t end up really finishing that song with you but I think like that process of setting that intention when when we are beginning I think that helps like carry the song onto and I like its next few incarnations yeah that was the that was the garage days that was the the demo version and then someone who came through the psytrance community who who was our an elder to us really in it and someone who has actually like a professional sound designer sound engineer professional mat McHugh he is just one of those guys at that level and he he had I baste a week that’s almost like we did that demo and then he was almost like the equivalent of Capitol Records taking over engine producing at United mean so like we were I wish I would have been nothing without you and then nothing without me and then and then really nothing without him all the stuff works and you know we’ve always said we’re always on a destiny if you know there’s another I remember one time once I started for sing in Fruity Loops you know I was really really primitive and really having no clue whatsoever but you sent you sent you don’t not been producing too much PSI for a while and then you busted out this track that have this really haunting but really enchanting melody in and I totally ripped off of that end in and kind of started to try to figure out how to replicate the bass sounds and and get that sort of thumb that semi distorted it is it’s been a lot of fun just exploring the art form and sharing ideas and and you’ve come so far and I am still so far I mean not too early but it’s like yeah you you got the chops man and so do you want to talk about four people NCAA you know how that goes because yeah I think I’m definitely way more knowledgeable with the software and everything and yeah I was thinking of psytrance man I I heard your new album just the other day and I congrats man it’s great it’s that had some really awesome like moments in their eyes just like shaking My Butt Went Psycho to see you come quiet quiet quite a ways since like you know not even producing stuff yourself at all to like during like what three albums now like yeah it’s awesome so yeah congrats on that or you in that at all. Thank you mental it again all comes back to that that Brotherhood that we shared and me watching you work and me just fucking being blown away and be like I got to learn how to do that like skater like I said skaters skaters who show up and now I got the new kickflip you know I’m like no way I got a fucking to get that down you know what I mean so there’s that healthy expiration competition of like trying to keep each other sharp on things and and yeah man like you the I became such a purist with psytrance that I just got across many different genres do you want to talk talk about your let’s talk about your your Evolution and in float on a d and raffle should be looking at how they can check into Canadian really varied interests in electronic music for quite a while and I think when I met you I was just like sort of coming off this like dubstep typed vibe and personally I had kind of a big issue with dubstep at the time because it was just really I think I think that the phrase they used to describe it is called Transformer vomit but there was a lot of things that I just felt it was just overly harsh and overly sort of masculine energy so I kind of in my inner ear I had kind of started hearing auditory vision of a new type of dubstep that would be I don’t know what sort of a blend between like that kind of heavy sound and then also sort of like some of those really cool technical sound because even though like I don’t really like that sort of like Transformer vomit type music like those producers have crazy sound design skills makes things that are so unbelievably cool sounding and so I wanted to like try to integrate some of those really a great Sonic elements and then with sort of like back to the actual roots of like what dubstep music is a little bit more like like more slowly heavily moving really learning you know how to do all this stuff because it’s pretty wild I mean if if you’ve never opened up one of these digital audio workstations and you have literally zero doing that like it’s it’s like a whole another language and it’s there so many different parameters to learn and figure out like what does what and I mean the learning curve is seriously Steve so yeah I think you it seems like you’ve totally got in through now like who’s actually hard part where it just feels like you’re fighting the machine to where you’re actually like it was a channel your ideas so yeah with this dubstep album that was called love blast and that was basically like my kind of like first you know album where I think I really had a pretty solid understanding of how everything works together actually I don’t know what happened but I just had a big shift and I just kind of the dubstep I was listening to just started feeling really dark and I sort of had a brief until like it’s called Deep dubstep and it’s kind of like I just left like that Transformer vomit stuff and very more like auditorily pleasing sounds like really nice and smooth Butters very dark and I just I don’t know like I just started to feel like it was just kind of like this like really ominous can I like yucky energy still but in a like a less obvious way than the other type of dubstep so I basically was like okay no pun done with this and I pretty much had another one eighty but then I made a small little glitch hop album and glitch hop is it’s a little bit more funky than dubstep music and little bit faster speed too and so that was really cool by I remember it was actually pretty funny because I would always like send you stuff to check out and if you if it wasn’t psytrance you would always just be like yeah you know that’s pretty cool but like can you make some psytrance please Lou and I’m like when psytrance Wednesday and experimenting with different stuff as I like focus on sort of one jonra here and there that you produce so far to me that had that what I really go for most of all with that you were blessed to also have like this parallel gift of a of a female vocalist just into your sister field and so we almost I now that I think about it I don’t think I’ve ever thought for this two together but we really are prayers were answered you know we wanted to bring in that shocked the energy masculine hyper-masculine music forms and have a real talent there that wasn’t just lifting samples to meditation CD you always end up hearing the same ones recycled by bunch of different producers and and and where is the where are the afentika aprotic female vocalist from different cultural Traditions are tribal tradition tradition is it actually show up in the studio and record over the beasts that you’re making him both of us had that authentic experience and it was both a very organic so that’s why would I want to say that track that we work together that are the music video that I was blessed to join you in participating in that track was it is really a nice sounding tea set that transcends genres you want to give us sort of the behind-the-scenes on that whole journey and and certainly which of the music video and the female vocalist like I love those stories of synchronicity in for sure for sure so yeah actually I was at Lucidity Festival which is it’s definitely one of my favorite festivals there’s actually not that much psytrance there but they do have some psytrance but just the overall vibe there is it’s really nice and so I was in my happy place just so you know doing my festival thing and kind of like walks by these two women sitting there and like why was kind of like maybe I should go to talk with them or I don’t know like and then one of them just said hey come and talk with us that’s pretty cool like awesome like really friendly vibe there so yeah I came over and turned out one of them is a vocalist and her name is Alex and you know it was telling her how like I make music I’m always you know looking for vocalist and I think this is a point in my life where I had just gone through this like realisation that you can make such a more rich and enormous sound when you how many voices coming together to create that so I was really like like open to collaborating with like almost anyone that would come my way at that point and yeah she was like okay here’s my number like you know like let’s get in touch and actually I had it like I don’t know probably three or four or vocalist like that I had met in that same kind of like months and I would reach out to them and I’ll just hear nothing back or it’s like oh yeah let’s get the California yes like the time is now baby after the festival Alex actually got in touch with me and you know it was like hey it’s like I really want to sing you know with you and yeah so she lives pretty far away from me but she came out and we recorded a bunch of vocal stuff on three or four songs that I was doing of the time and I just one song basically I had kind of like some basic elements of it was very raw skeletal Types on and that’s the song called deep inside and yeah it is just when I heard her singing on there it was like wow this is the song right here this is what’s been missing she’s just got the most amazing voice and she has so much soul I’m hearing you speak I feel like the if I had to explain to somebody who never heard the word Tantra before and your people ask me if clients and whatnot where should I begin and what should I read and certainly there is I really enjoy Urban Tantra by Barbara carrellas and also the jewel in the Lotus and also the complete idiot’s guide to tantric sex if I never had I’m waiting for this I’m waiting I’ve been waiting for something like this to me again I Just Praise her your style and approach and I really think the what it brings together is it just these two words kind of came to me these two terms just like the Smith self-help genre and the self-help movement is something that is sort of its kind of made fun of or it’s not it’s not really taking totally seriously or it’s kind of like oh yeah you’re there’s something wrong with you and if you were normal you would you would not need to go that route so it’s kind of like a weird something where you might you might lose respect for yourself even by questioning that are thinking what am I going to having a midlife crisis I don’t need that you know what is going on but then with Tantra it’s so you’re such a almost like a martial arts kind of level of self-mastery and self-discipline I really is the sort of Jedi training and I think you bring that you sent the size of those two for me those two opportunities where it’s like yeah you you’re actually using courage and bravery and becoming a warrior but then you’re doing all this really touchy feely deep emotional work and that should that should take care of people’s hesitation to go either on a warrior path or on a more self-help spiritual path that gives you your compelling people to take both and for when men I think they they seek that out maybe they seek the warrior path more than the spiritual path but there’s I think there’s a lot of marketing and hype around that for men but this is really good tip for a loved one country women’s use the word Fierce and they invoke that that energy and they Empower femininity with with that those archetypes so could you talk maybe a bit about what that means to you the that just reconciling masculine or feminine Shiva Shakti really kind of bringing these tools of of strength and resolve and discipline to two women who may be of this been crushed by patriarchy you know for Generations oh yeah that’s a big question right there yeah and that’s I mean being crushed by Peter I came that’s definitely why I wrote the book and I actually why you were talking I just wanted to mention that I have a section on their on you know telling women to how to stop denying that masculine energy or also men love because I find that you know because you know a lot of the women I work with the idiot had just bad experiences with men or with times that they’ve stepped into their masculine energy and so they’ve just been very hurt by it and then they sort of backed away from it and you know I try to work with them on you know it’s about housing balance of Both Worlds and really understanding what the masculine is and also the ways in which masculine and men have been disempowered you know and really starting to take ownership of that you notice a lot of times women are like you know when I start bringing in the masculine they’re like okay I know I bet that’s like to heavy like that kind of energy that they don’t want to work with that energy and they don’t want to explore that energy and so I say okay you know there’s there’s no pressure and there’s no rush cuz you got to do what feels right to you and a lot of time they seem. Just by like stepping in to do that feminine energy because it is fierce right it is courageous it is powerful like you said there is not Warrior quality to it I’m still by simply die do something like this to summon and energy you actually calling up you know those masculine aspect you’re calling up that strength that where your strength at the same time without really realizing it so unconsciously and and you’re bringing those forces them to bounce and I’ve seen that a lot of times with women that I’ve worked but I’m really like surprised at how the feminine wild like this actually you know it’s soft there is softness in the feminine but as you claim it and as you’re able to fearlessly stick with that and embrace set and embodying it naturally you know.. Here’s mess. Power starts to rise time to help stabilize their energy and so it’s pretty much really a magical thing it’s pretty amazing and so I have this part in my book about you know how to really heal yourself from what you thought maybe you know how house Gary masculine energy might be some time I’m sure there are practices that really going to that and yeah and then that’s really a big part of my work to because a man I mean we are in need of some major balance here on this planet and in this life in this world so I really feel the more that we can Embrace anybody and I’m leaning into the feminine that is rising right now in the more we can scan with that the more that we can make space for on the masculine to heal and balance and a bike ride but like Reno really hot like it in excess right but Valance in such a way that it kind of comes down to meet the famine in so that this beautiful kind of dance can emerge Amor Harmony and that would just make such a huge total impact and we just within the body the container of one individual body being able to fuse and merge those energies so powerful yeah I’m really is why I do what I do awesome yeah I can say from experience from the first couple of experiences and session work that I experienced with you then I really got I was able to feel the force so you know that if we’re going to be using that Jenna archetype you know in in there if you want to call Kundalini Shakti goddess energy which is I love calling I love I love hearing of Kundalini as a salmon in force and you were the one who activated that for me and it was just very unusual yeah I remember like it was yesterday and so I appreciate it in you you can get really philosophical and really theoretical but grounding everything into practices to make it as a workbook almost it sounds like this is amazing so you and it’s something that has to be felt in the body to really know what it is yeah it’s hard it’s hard to find words nothing will thank you for all that great work do you feel kind of complete as in that in this kind of brief introduction but but pretty I think it’s a pretty good overview I definitely thrilled to to go deeper with it and others will be as well so I wanted to give the bulk of this episode to this important news of promoting and getting the word out about the book and then but also address questions that I’ve had as a sort of I’ve become a sort of meta Godparent to a lot of different mothers who were rebranding as independent mothers who are in various stages of Court battles with baby daddies for custody and for child support and and I’ve just checking on this sort of I decided I’m not going to reproduce biologically all of my vasectomy but I will reproduce culturally by my being short playing that that more of a Shimano roll in peace and also keeping a little bit of distance from that that this is a an ancient sword of time tree thing of if you are not to be the guru per se but to be an Adept you may have to disengage from householding because there’s just so much mundane kind of learning and things you got to sit through so your country path is always going to be kind of a balancing act between how much of a household are you going to be and what roles are going to have within a community and then how far out you get to go on your own into your mystical practices so I have taken that past of offsetting my my familial obligations a bit so that I could study things from afar and then just go to be this force of will hopefully an Angelic sort of force supporting women who are in different degrees of Crisis that’s just a little bit of a of a context for why it’s important for me now to reconnect with you in a n n learn from you and share your teachings about Tantra parenting the pattern that has been emerging in the question is being asked of me and the view is is how does a woman who has just recently given birth and going through all these different chemical changes and hormonal changes how do you what’s the advice on keeping that spark of love and attraction alive with the baby daddy partner what are some some tricks and tips that you would recommend for for that really critical bonding you know six segments of Life first of all I’m not going to lie. I think the first thing to do is I mean really too kind of except that it’s not going to be the same but. It’s actually you know like I said with you know what having kids how you’re able to look at the things that really matter to you that was so when you actually are with your partner and you have those moments you know they might be less but we are going to be amazing because you are fully present and you’re showing up each moment you know and the end of a lot of for me it’s like when I first became a mom so I had my first son and it was really hard I was just like what cuz I was Dino stole so focused on your child and really wanted to be there to nurture that I and you are you know you’re you’re so deep into it into motherhood and it’s so new everything is so new and exciting and exhausting but I am in a few months I was just like oh my gosh like how how does this work how do we make this work and it was really really difficult very difficult but I found that by you know because I’ve had my kids almost 8 years now until I found that really what we eat sometimes you know if if we need to say like make an appointment with each other and that’s what we have to do if we have to put it on the calendar they okay these are the the two or the three days a week that were scheduling for ourselves for intimacy for connection then that’s we’re going to do that first there was a struggle because my husband’s like okay this isn’t sexy yo after he got over that initial thing it was like okay like we can do this we can make time for this we can we can be intentional about it for us really had to do that because not only was it you know hard navigating with kids now but also the work you know work in the balance of that it was just really tough so that was one of the things that we did the other thing that I want to say is that sometimes you know you you have good intentions but I got at the end of the day you’re exhausted and and then you just end up wanting to just sit there and whatever you want to do watch TV or you know just go to bed until I always like to say that really if you really want to keep that sparked going not to give up just because you feel like okay you know I don’t have that energy right now or I don’t have the time to put into this right now to really see and used Contra in a way that it’s really meant to be experienced right because Todd’s are really isn’t just all about sex right and having that fat set spark Tundra is it much deeper than that and so sometimes you have to tell yourself like okay even though we don’t have time to make love right now maybe maybe it’s just about lying down next to each other synchronizing out of breath making that I contact I’m falling asleep to that I’m letting that be enough you know before you know this night or this week or whatever it is like in the beginning it’s not to really put so much pressure on yourself but to use Simple practice is like you know that you have your own position and just sitting there together and being or maybe you know it’s one night you really need a massage right now you know I really just after having a long day or a long week and be with the kids so much that’s what I really need so communicating that to your partner and really staying in touch with that and not being embarrassed or not feeling like it’s too much or too much of a burden or whatever it is just really being clear about what you deeply need I’m in a lot of that comes down to really checking in you know with yourself all the time and seeing what’s there I really feel like things like that even though you know you might be cuz it’s also self-care right so you’re able to connect with your partner in that way and then you’re also able to have that time must be nurtured and a slowing down which is also key so I think everyone is going to work differently and it’s going to be unique for all of us but it’s really about finding those opportunities to stay consistent to really stay connected in those small tangible ways and mlc really accepting that it’s okay that you know your relationship has changed the amount of time might be able to have to devote to one another Soul has changed I’m not true but you can actually take all that and evolve it into something in a lot of cases that really goes much deeper than that you know because now it’s it’s amazing you know you have this this connection and you know going through motherhood and Emma strikes that that gives you time to actually be able to take that foundation and that strength and that those nurturing abilities and that expression being able to use that with your partner in your relationship I’m having that Foundation really can make me very powerful in a way that’s unexpected just as amazing as you always bring it back to the fundamentals of the practices this is not all hot air to talk about it tell about doing it doing the work and I just feel like it makes me think that I can think of I mean I know some couples will have the foresight to at least make prenuptial agreement but I can’t think of anyone who they actually said we are going to go through the most insane trans transformation of everything we know we can if its first time parents who have no clue what to expect and they and what if they were to get these to be the eye of a storm throughout anyting that’s the Abbey unless Ty gazing the synchronized breathing you can’t touch that space with anything so but but pure Bliss and whatever does need to get work through if it’s done in that space it’s going to be conscious it’s going to be a constructive and it’s going to be a firming so I feel like it’s the what I’m hearing you say and what diarrhea firm is two people listening if you were expecting and you want to keep this container of love together and ever strengthening then start doing his practices now and know that you’re going to really rely on them it’s going to be life-and-death okay we’re just going there so I can breed all right like can’t we just do that let’s just do that next week or let’s just all of that I mean once you start doing it and engaging and you feel that present in your body and the Net Connection you have to just trust that all of that and all of that adds up and all of that makes a difference in your relationship every moment of that that time that you have on to be able to connect in that way as powerful well thank you again for bringing it back to to those core practices again you could have a lot of compliments sure there’s a million complicated bits of advice that people could give for this but this is so practical and and I just I dare people could really do it in and I don’t think you can fail you know I don’t think it’s possible to fail if you have good intentions and you do the scratches so yeah so we were getting also to your kind of making a perfect segue to the next question which is more more about the the asymmetry of responsibility and Duty specially for breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be carried to full-term and whatnot it’s it’s like there’s such a the mail investment just as how I always make this joke there probably less violence in the world is men had to breastfeed but women actually held the babies in their room still so imagine that you wouldn’t be off to go into war and using weapons and guns and swords that she had breastfeeding on demand for whatever after 5 years income that would be great that leaves man with such an unfair and balance of freedom and privilege to not be bound to the those tasks so a lot of women are rightfully lamenting this sensitive of the men who are supposed to be there showing up to with the with the mother is hoping for is that yeah he’s going to go to work and put food on the table and make it so I don’t have to work hopefully or I can work you know in a way that I can still be involved in my children’s lives you know for God’s sake you know who something something not just not just the short maternity leave remind me that the CEO of YouTube is a yogini who is Hardcore advocate for way longer maternity leave or something yeah I didn’t know that I’ll send you a link to a video where it where you get to see that she’s actually really badass them she’s a fierce that ass woman who’s awake I have no idea how did you navigate and how do you recommend for women who maybe don’t have is as blessed of a of a beloved Fixer-Upper type type men how do you get them on board with really going the extra mile of of checking in about about the needs a mother you know mother would have if she is being assertive about her knees in about the new suicide where she would like how can you be humbled to her and just be asking and showing up to being serviced that’s a question that’s a really great question and I have to say that I’m really fortunate with Eric because he I mean he has just him and he is just been a tremendous support from the beginning but then at the same time it’s like I also have to do my part with him right of being very clear about I need you no because then it that this always with him you know in the beginning of special rub up against this when he just wouldn’t know you know and I would be just waiting silently expecting something but he wouldn’t really know that that was what exactly I was looking for right because for women it’s like having that ability to breastfeed and nurture and carry this baby. Room I mean just how we have those abilities so readily at hand and we know what we need sometimes it’s hard to say yeah I need this actually it sometimes it’s hard because where we can be so strong you know and we can put off the 15 so strong and like we have everything together and I know that I do that a lot of time where I’m just like yep I’m good I don’t need help I look what I’m doing all by myself I’m doing all these amazing but that really inside I’m like oh my gosh like what am I I can’t do all this by myself and just allowing your partner that opportunity like okay like this is really what I need and this is the support that I need and this is how I feel going through that and not being afraid to say I am overwhelmed right now you know and and can you please and saying this from a place of love right not from a place that judgment and like what are you doing for me and you know resenting that you know you have more freedom than me and Bubba blah and I’m here breastfeeding or whatever it is not doing it from that place but from you know from your center from a place of love like I’m I’m really overwhelmed I need help with this right now you know can you get up be up with a baby now for two hours because I only had 3 hours of sleep last night instead of just silently you know doing in that moment when you feel I mean I I just I know a lot of of moms and a lot of friends who dust will just be like okay well he didn’t you know my partner my spouse he didn’t step up and so I had to do it and then my will but did you say something and they’re like no or maybe they did say something but you know it wasn’t from that place you know of just clear intentional loving vulnerable until. I think that was one of the biggest things for me especially you know when our relationship I’m like okay and then you know my husband tries to tell me like he’s Eichler like he’s like really I want to be able to show up for you like I want to be strong for you I want you to feel good but he’s like I honestly don’t I just need to to hear it I just sometimes I need to be told or I need to be reminded because it doesn’t come as naturally to me and then show me be mindful of that and not you know not falling to being hurtful or resentful something makes me cute different do you know well that’s really really profound that that really gets to the hardest exactly what I’m seeing go wrong inside once at once that slippery slope really hard I mean it’s kids once this thing start to add up then breaking through that you’re really. It’s really snowballing and that’s your thing everything is this Noble thing I’ve seen it yet so that is great advice I think that work that I said the fly to something if x is kind of ridiculous that it reminds me of I remember seeing young young women and whatever middle school or high school and home home economics class and they will be given an assignment to have a baby doll with them for whatever and in that relationship it’s like okay honey we’re going to do what it’s going to feel like for me to be busy and need help from you and you put in your garden that would be funny if it decided to give people that sensitivity at sensitivity training cuz once it’s already ratchet up and then more expenses than what I’m seeing to notice let me know way more than I do but it’s like I don’t think I think people underestimate the cost of of multiple visits to the pediatrician a week you know it’s like figuring out food allergies and decoding the sugar all of the ways that sugar is is is surreptitiously inserted into packaged food and just it’s such a pill battle to be holistic and to be in at all so it’s just this this is all in on top of just I mean most people are just buying everything off the shelf from entertainment to toys to food to diapers and whatever it is it’s all just off the shelf but to have that effect of wanting to do better than the last Generations or to resist the marketing and be more green or whatever that’s a whole another layer of the building so you know it’s just to get more and more complicated and at the end of the day I see the women just getting ran ragged and the dudes just kind of blowing him off sadly to say but if we could he had say that actually kind of Segways a bit to another question which is and this I mean you could you could write a whole book just on this subject alone out so I don’t expect you to to go too far into it but maybe just some off the top of your head pointers and we can move along quick to know we’re getting close on time so so any suggestions for creative and educational and non-toxic toys just a few maybe went to one website or one store just don’t know anything I don’t know if I’d be the best person to ask about that because I not that they have a choice in general just because you know like all the plastic and everything I mean and we like literally their toys are like one corner of our house like a couple of containers and that’s it and they barely even play them to be honest with you I feel like the simpler the better you know I feel like I’m all about like art you know art projects you know the pain and the crayons and all the art supplies and things like that so that they can enhance their minds and use their hands that way and explore that way they’re into that but I found that you know the purchases that I made with toys throughout the years it’s like that use it and then they’re done and that’s like a big hunk of plastic sitting there are biodegradable and Wooden Spoons and then they’d be busy for 2 or 3 hours you know that they have gotten that I get them they’re like okay and then they open it and then they look at it for 10 minutes and then I end up you know it’s just a way so yes so we do more we like to do more stuff you know in nature I mean they like to play you know what they say they love gospel they love being outdoors they love Ari and they love puzzles and things like that so that’s why I hope that I hope and pray that we will all have abundant opportunities to being healthy natural environments and have plenty of more outdoor time the better cuz there’s some nature is like endless you know just being outside they’re like so fascinated by every little thing the backyard I don’t know it exactly how I like how did the people survived all of those many years ago without these big pieces of plastic and well that is exactly what I thought I hope to hear in and a very firm it if so this is another test of the last one here is probably the the most kind of universal so I don’t know if there is an answer to this question however I died would like to spend I would like to spend my golden years doing a lot more anthropological research on on foraging sigala Terry and societies before you spell hunter-gatherer societies who have basically none of the the neurotic issues that people in the modern world have and and I love to know I would like to believe that there is that there was a golden age of human Innocents where the terrible twos didn’t exist and then that we could decode that and figure out what is it more nurturing Less Talk toxins I mean is it just that there’s so much overstimulation and so many maybe you’re actually able to perceive carcinogens at that age and then you stopped being able to and that’s why I mean it could be anything less or I could just sent them know something very out of balance that’s just modern so I’m just wondering if you have if you were really idealistic about know I’m going to teach there going to be a master Yogi’s by the age of one so that the terrible twos happen though I already beat exam enough I don’t know why you if you were like I don’t know like tell me what that’s been like for you and then if you have advice for people who are in that approaching that Horizon will for me I really I really just try to go with the flow you know just so I’ll talk to style just like accepting every part of it I was just part of the the beautiful messy process of development and growth and exploration and sometimes I do know because otherwise then it’s just become so hard you know what I’m saying because you expect it is you’re going to have meltdowns right it’s not it’s not going to be easy is there at like going to be some very tough days especially in the beginning if it’s going to be hard you feel like what what am I what did I get myself into one of my hairdo evaporate the next moment you know you’re going to feel the most joy and Bliss and happiness that you ever felt like wow that’s amazing that I get to be a part of this process you know that I get to witness this human being growing and developing and it’s it’s just amazing so it’s really you know you know the whole ton truck idea of a flowing through those energy that accepting every moment no matter how chaotic and allowing those emotions and those feelings and those moments to move to you during this challenging time to witness in you know children and young children because it’s like they can like be so happy in one moment and literally within five seconds that can beat me on the floor it’s crazy right it’s like oh my gosh the wide array of emotions from moment to moment and not inhibit that till I I feel like you know it’s like wow for me initially seen that in the beginning and fidget with night was my first one and that you can just move so fluidly like this and just just like that and get so consumed by something else in another moment we just amazing to me so I think we can really take a lot of sign a lot of lessons and just being present at something to a Full Circle closed right now because what I am even before you started to reply that lesson for grown-ups really about about cycling through your full expression and not choking your body is response to a situation out and the full the full body response to a situation I was actually remember me on my phone while I remember a room full of adults it you and Eric’s condo and we were being instructed to behave like children having a tantrum so that we can feel good and actually know the nice that storm there’s like the sun and the blue sky and in the EXO baekhyun the funny faces and doing the monster dance and some just like well you’re probably realizing hits are the times of the exactly yeah it’s it’s pretty amazing to witness is there a word for like reverse parenting or something has got to be a word for the the the from children actually teaching adults what they’re forgetting and I didn’t mean well that’s really it’s a really heartwarming conversation and I feel like the people who are hearing this and who have experienced so much pain and distress that there is such a open source free to use to spend your own time studying it get this book read the book watch Roadies videos I certainly considered to be the highest resource that I like to share with folks because of the same reason they listen before adjusters I don’t feel like there is a knot a snake-oil aspect of what you’re selling and there’s not a sort of a shady ulterior motive saying a gender that I have to worry about and and I just can’t say that about that many people until I’m sure you know and I certainly feel for myself that you know I have I always want to be deferring is often as possible to sort of protect my Integrity to not be the what do they call it like the god cock Shaman is just a narcissistic people’s souls and that’s easy enough to it’s easier to take that route of that that black timeshare manipulate manipulate almost hard not to do it so I mean I’m making and I feel like we are making major effort cuz that’s the complete opposite of what you are and what you and body I mean from the very beginning so yeah no thank you I really feel like you are just I mean somebody who’s just really in there doing that you’re like doing the work you know and you like do it like with an open heart you’re just like in there and you’re talking to everybody and just creating this just really amazing platform. You should be really proud of well thank you again and again I have to say you helped start at all and one of my the first real social proof that I had was that was your gracious licensing of me to share some of the video work that we did together it’s been a blessing that go into detail but all that in that in that previous episode supposed to listen of that and I will say that we we were blessed and burden in this in this time of this episode to take to cover a good intro to the book and also to open this discussion about time to Parenting I definitely want to set the intention that in the future we will give more of a of a deep dive into your personal background and it sort of will let that be a cliffhanger to hear about your experiences early introduction of Tantra and just kind of the got your path of building that confidence and certainly the form give experience Syfy oh my God it all yeah we haven’t got into your filmography either still be there next time to say this for next time to talk about birth because yes I mean not as deep and my experience naturally delivering and doing it with Tantra as my Foundation is the only way that I said I survived it and actually enjoyed it. Arrington have the complete box set free thank you so much thank you so much for having me it was really great and most richest time in in a moment to to share this Basin and certainly yeah it’s it’s a got it just give you a big big bow down because this you were the one who helped me start this this whole journey I don’t know I don’t know who I’d be or where I’d be doing it if we didn’t have a Meeting of Minds you know so yeah I can’t believe I forgot to say this I mean you were seriously you were the first one who discovered my website you were the first one who reached out to me and one of the first that I’ve actually I will say the first that I taught that I didn’t know because I had started already like teaching but like you know friends and friends of friends but you were the first clean one like the first student I was like oh wow yeah that that walked in and like was the beginning of really that Journey so thank you I did not know that I did not realize that that that’s funny so funny I can’t believe I never told you that that’s very well so everybody just like get over your awkwardness and just represent just like bring your egg and no matter what things will come out you know it’ll all fall in place to get back to the Sam and yeah I give them my love and thank them for allowing you to to do the book and for all of the people who parted the sea so that you could get that book done and then provide provide that to us and so much more thank you I know it I just want to say thank you so much for Amy what you just what you spoke about earlier just blew me away how you been stepping up to support women and you know what your mother’s I mean you are really holding for me to space there and this is really something that you know I know that would indeed and you know a lot of them have been longing for so thank you so much for for being that person and for filling that role cuz it’s just amazing the work that you’ve been doing all these years I thank you you planning to see each other that they were they say that it’s the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree at least in the sense of the guru to train me to be a womanizing pick up artist in the name of conscience so I guess that’s why we you know gravitated toward each other There Was You know. The little like energy so I think I don’t think you would have found that path that was not your will thank you so much again yeah so much so much good vibes and good times and we will be in touch soon and and best of luck with all of your your your book emotional adventurous okay great thank you so much fun. Country Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple provide ketologic employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Township Park. Com Thomas gay

Dancing with the Shadow vs. Light-Washing Dark Truths with Matthew Schultz TPP204

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In this episode I’m joined by Matthew Schultz, a distinguished multi-media artist, musician and ceremonialist with a vast array of experience in both modern dark ambient experimental music and traditional shamanic ritual and ceremony.  I discovered his work recently via the Psychedelic Salon podcast episode 607 and realized we have a lot in common. On parallel paths, we’ve both been evolving from unguided musical shadow practice, to seeking shamanic ceremony, and integrating higher consciousness and vibration based on our sonic discoveries and revelations.

We get to learn about his unique and adventurous music career, his diverse shamanic initiations and his personal struggles with reconciling music, medicine, magic, and the archetype of the sacred trickster.

We also commiserate on the rampant plague of “spiritual-bypass” and “light-washing” which keeps many in the new age scene from confronting dark truths within themselves, their spiritual communities, and beyond. We discuss the need to integrate a shamanic perspective an astral ecology and develop a modern scientific framework to understand astral parasites.

He provides a much needed catharsis for those who have been tip-toeing on the egg-shells of spiritual correctness. It was an exquisite joy to be able to compare notes and share many deep healing laughs about the state of the world.  A moderate dose of cynicism is counter balanced by a heroic dose of divine love and light that is truly contrasted by a clear gaze  into the dark abyss. Ultimately we share great positivity, hope, and enthusiasm for an ever more enlightened future as old paradigms melt away and the psychedelic movement moves towards more of a “localvore” approach to cultivating and harvesting medicine species.

About Matthew:

Matthew John Schultz is a multimedia artist, musician, inventor, sculptor and indigenous practitioner. He was a founding member of Pigface and the dark ambient band Lab Report that included such diverse musicians as Genesis Breyer P-Orridge, and Lydia Lunch. Schultz also invented the A.T.G. or Anti Tank Guitar and utilized this instrument with both bands. In total, Schultz has appeared on over 29 cds with 9 solo productions and 2 feature film soundtracks (Ivan’s XTC and Snuffmovie) for Hollywood director Bernard Rose.

In 2010, Schultz manifested the esoteric and ancient fraternal order of The Division which reconstructed ancient spells and rituals. Mantras is the first in a trilogy of discs that express all aspects of The Division. Matt’s latest release is Mandalas. This album contains binaural beats and tones to aid in meditation and dream states.

Matt has also spent time in Peru working at an Ayahuasca healing center as a facilitator. He has worked with Lakota elders for over a decade and was initiated by Mayan elders in 2010. He is a water pourer and peace pipe carrier. He continues to be involved in indigenous medicine ceremonies of many varieties and runs sweat lodges outside of Chicago, Illinois.

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http://www.mattschultz.com

To visit his website for his sweat lodges please go to
http://www.sweatlodge.love

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 204 I’m being joined by Matt Schultz and he is really a jack-of-all-trades and nygma and an Intrigue to me now discovering his work based on the 2nd of ixalan podcast and he was on a on an episode recently that I heard in a really it really piqued my interest because we have a lot of residents in common ground in the extreme and underground and experimental music scene he’s got work in the pig face send lab report and he’ll tell us all about his his music scoring and soundtracks and really being a doing his sort of wizard witchcraft Alchemy in that space and also evolving into a someone who is Shaman escorts Shaman assure someone work within that those ceremony around tonight in that I weren’t just want to make an extra note to say that I feel like they’re I know you know that being in the various different scenes and Circles of of Ceremonies that there’s there’s definitely a cohort that is kind of post music industry or sort of post kind of not maybe some rock stars but definitely lots of just different people who been in the underground in the extreme music genres who find their way to ceremony either through their own rehab and Recovery or true just now getting bored what’s happening on stage in the entire world is a lot of paths that lead to it but it’s beautiful always to see the transformation of one’s people get switched onto sacred frequencies and toning chakras and 432 and cymatics I mean that’s that was my Story 2 of of having aha moments about understanding music and in in sound healing and want to be part of more than the solution unless it the Prof of somatic we speak and say I can’t wait to hear all about you and your journey it sounds like we do have a lot in common and I and I hurt and I do I’ll put a link to that that episodes people can catch up on that too but but feel free to just tell us all about your your your Evolution musically and spiritually and we’ll go into some of the issues that are going to give us a funny show title and we’ll reveal that later that’s great thank you so much for having me on it really is an otter and just chatting with you beforehand it’s true it there’s this it’s nice finding a resonant frequencies amongst people you know and it would this would be great talking to you so thanks again thanks for having me on. Yeah it’s it’s interesting cuz it has been a long path man is been a long path and I would say most kind of go back to the beginning here I did a lot of experimental film work when I was really young and started doing it because I’ve been thinking about this a lot to bring us up together podcast I wasn’t interested in playing music as I was in creating tones and I didn’t even know this is a kid and I remember buying this guitar and I would tip is Kemah stats and I clip them on like the second string down and stay like the top thing was like no Daddy right and I would use my fingers in the end of the hemostat and then like kind of isolated so that I can add to take the string in a Perpetual drone you know and I was completely fascinated by this capability of just creating these drone Tonk Central Illinois in the country I had no idea you know this is a long time ago and said it was his idea that I wanted a creepy stones and I was completely unaware of why I want to do that right but I I put headphones on these just monolithic drone tones and now I’m looking back on it I really do think that was like this this had to be a thing where I was affecting like the root chakra is it could be that the second chakra I’m trying to do something depending on my bike tuning then you know and without even knowing what I was doing and I think of years later that led then to the construction of the antitank guitar and I built this large stringed instrument and it had 10 strings on a basically the six were the same spacing is guitar in the other four were is the same spacing is a bass guitar instrument was 8 ft long and had a bridge 5ft the bridge to bridge is 5 feet and you know I use 18 gauge like string wire you know to the crate tones with this tank and again I was more about creating two things one would be like the tone and then the other would be that I retrieve these atmospheres to again you know what that time I had my own kind of definition of what I was doing but now looking back on it it was really just steadfast Shadow practice you know I mean with the other two band members we were creating pretty horrific sound Fields Miss I would put it and that really struck me as I was capturing the the collective unconscious of American culture and it was listen to it back it would be just absolutely horrific you know so again and I don’t even mention his name of the podcast a lot of that shadow practice was a form of catharsis for me it was cathartic and I wanted to listen to kind of go like holy cow you too let’s move away from this again it was okay Oka right like the sacred clown you know what I’m talking about the Hellcat a sacred clown like a Lakota sacred clown it’s it you know I do things that you shouldn’t do or the opposite of what’s normal to tell you what is normal like don’t do this right so so anyway I kind of sick think some of that early a shadow practice was exactly that you know it was creating this just nightmare horse Cape that could express to The Listener we’re not to be you know in a in a strange way and mind you this way predates like any new age you know we’re talkin like 80s New Age movement was extremely small back then are virtually unheard up you know the whole thing about total therapy and chakra tones and stuff like this was just completely unheard of so again I think it was a lot very intuitive practice which we can talk about later to like getting into chaos magic in this kind of following your intuition so I did that and then Martin Atkins from pigface he was in a different band at the time uniform pick base and he came to me was sitting form in this project you want to be involved and of course I did they were industrial Roxbury Chicago you know we’re talking 90 now it’s very Chicago Industrial Rock Ministry was just really keep getting into before men and by 91 or two we put out the first bass records that went on tour with that and again I really wasn’t too interested in in I mean I like industrial music and stuff but I was really there to do kind of this sustained tonal in a 18 minute intro for the show and I always considered it like a magic spell that we’re putting on the audience so they are like I have Sheltie do that spell will have them build it up and then they would come out and do their spells right and so I did that for a while and then after that I started working with Bernard Rose who did the movie Candyman and he was doing some Independent films now we’re in the late 90s by this point again I’ve been putting out solo records this whole time and I started doing horror movie soundtracks for him I mean directly did snuff movie and some tracks on iTunes ecstasy it said it was fun and I think that was probably more the conclusion of that kind of style of music you know that formative years let’s say and give it a little break its mid-2000s now I’m starting to hear about sacred medicines and Ayahuasca and frequencies all the stuff starting to come to fruition or at least to me and let’s see by 2007 I started working with Lakota Elder in Southern Illinois and doing sweat lodges and learning to be a fire tender or being a fire tender and learning to pour lodges and I did that for years and then I hooked up with some Mayan elders and spent a couple years on and off in Guatemala and Mexico with the Mayan Elders learning from them doing Thomas Carl’s there and and then one day they’re like Hayward initiating you and it was the Frog medicine and that had to be panically the most intense experience I’ve ever had like I helped you might really made Ayahuasca look like marijuana to in my definition that was very potent and it wasn’t necessary the Frog medicine as much as it was the datura they use a lot of datura and I and again posthumously so to speak I found out through research on the back end really what was going on to some degree with their medicine practices and I started practicing with some Shaman so Iowa skero’s here in the states that were from Brazil travel the world with them walk the Camino ended up in Peru working at Ayahuasca Center outside of Iquitos and now I’m back and I pour sweat lodges and I’m writing a book that’s a cautionary tale about sacred medicine in indigenous practices so there you go that’s that’s the nutshell awesome so yeah I I love hearing about all this and just to give the listeners a visual I looked it up on Wikipedia The anti-tank guitar I believe I can imagine you named that because it looks like a missile launcher A and B that seriously the the low bass tones I would use the woven garage door cable like in your garage that makes the garage doors go up and down right so woven cable and I have these humbucker pickups you know I mean we would use that like we would tour and and we would have you bring I forgot what a writer at it was like what they faced it was something like whenever 618 dual subwoofers and we would marry that up to the house system and I just push everything of the house system up to theirs you know what I mean in the end if people didn’t you know like we get there to a show at the venue and a promoter do you like you know who this is common to we can give you what you wanted what you going to do not play you know it’s a lot of times I can hold you captive and I remember a sound guy would go like mad can you go up there and Sanchez sound check that atg just a straight electric guitar right but these subspecies low bass strings for subsonic I mean I can and so what I do is I would use this knurled rod and I would agitate the screen again all the way back to my childhood right I would add to take the string and it would sound like somebody had a Nebo you know that the vibrating magnetic vibrating device for guitar strings one of their tops and so they would throttle the PA and then every time they be like that you know that Michael could you hit the low in and I would slap that bottom string and it would just shut the Pas off everything else this is total true story First shows we did with it I believe Houston or Dallas where were the Butthole Surfers were from and we were opening up is when the only time we opened up her cuz we’re headlining act but we opened up for the Butthole Surfers and it was a sold-out show it’s been you five thousand people there and you know that they come to you to go to your introspect I feel like I mean this is one of the first live shows in front of thousands of people I’ve ever perform on stage and I might start my interest very high and I could have taken almost minutes before I get to these lohit beats right well it’s so loud that I can hear it on stage which you know it’s musician a lot of things you can only hear your amp early on stage kiss the Pas in front of you right it’s very hard for you to be absorbed in the Pas on cuz if you worry about getting back anyway right I remember that it was so loud that all the pedals of everybody’s effects on the floor of the stage we’re literally bouncing across the stage and I absolutely I just knew I was like man this is going to end up happy in Guelph and I hit that low strength and it shut down the entire PA I mean like and I are sound asleep hoping he was like that every single switch is just to shut it the whole thing off right they had to repower it up and the audience of course. She know cuz I’m building up this energy right and I’m starting a load going for these guys just Rising drone and it came back on it had to be like 1/3 the volume and yeah they say stuff some of the stuff I’m working on now is the idea of being completely engulfed in that sound you know yeah man things I want to talk about regarding your the music all the tech some of the technical musical stuff and then get into the the medicine work where I think is it it really there’s going to be a lot of fun fun stuff in there but I’m curious so you this is something that for me I didn’t discover this but it came basically like a modern tantric yoga Guru figure came into my life the way that Tyler Durden came into the life you know in that movie and it was very a very ballbusting authoritarian smash your Paradigm you know rubbing your face in your own shit kind of initiation with that type of personality but he was a classic like a very well-respected music industry equipment manufacturer like he was basically making old-school analog equipment because he believed so strongly that the digitization of all the music was really not only just bastardizing at a dumbing it down but actually like destroying the the safety the sacred healing properties and he discovered that by studying cymatics so when he showed me the same out of scope videos was years ago now that was became what what I wanted to start tuning everything to my voice my instruments you know and then straight going down at 4:30 to kind of conspiracy rabbit rabbit hole and I got to know yet what your story of 432 and cymatics how that has has played out for you if those things as if you had some some aha moment along the way where you you know I have that kind of initiation of Sonic vibration initiation if you owe rudimentary aspect of it you know they teach you in these these cuz I like cello bows and the ebo to generate Perpetual drone it’s right and but again this is before I knew all this stuff so to me in retrospect you know it’s too bad I didn’t know what I know now because those intros could be like they would be much more of a man a true magic spell in the sense of you know if I have all the notation you know if they are like it’s it’s the standard C D E F sharp GA chakra from root chakra all the way to the crown chakra right so you could cycle the people through which is what I do in my sweat lodges with singing bowls so unlike the Lakota my my Lodge is Multicultural so I bring some lakotas the Mayan some other stuff and my singing bowls and I’ll spin through those chakras in the sweat lodge and so to me that’s kind of like part of that that journey travel right for the for the participant are you going to just cleaning house in the way while also being in the lodge know when the cymatics came around and again I can’t even tell how long ago that was when I when I ran across that do you know of a Buchanan I just oh my god I think I’m going to have to double-check the name Buchanan yes sound healer that actually invented like a machine that can selectively locate you whatever your cancer and then he’ll find the appropriate frequency to destroy that cancers out of Reno Nevada right and so I’m sorry to Robert Buchanan yeah I had gone out to Reno with some friends to visit him cuz they knew him and he took us to his laboratory and I mean he literally wrote the book on cymatics and somatic sound healing right and he’s got a spa so they’re in Reno and he’s also a conductor of the orchestra that means a really fascinating man and he kind of these little things of water and then he was coming up with all the somatic shapes and stuff in this is the first time I’ve seen this and it was after very recently after my Mayan experience so you know I was so blown open from that experience that I when I came back from Guatemala I was making all these mandalas and what I was doing was kind of incorporating the actual visual cymatic quality of the sound wave depending on the notation into the mandala so that if you listen to the song This is the eventual goal this if you go to my mandalas project if you go to match.com you can go to the mandala then and that’s called like or you can go to the actual website the mandala event.com and what it is is it has the stomach that was that I made and songs that they wrote using binaural beats which is also another thing we can talk about but it also uses of cymatics so like for instance I have the chakras as a visual cymatic poster a graphic that I created right and then you can listen to that notation at the same time and to me that’s a meditative practice that drives it all the way home because you’re forcing the visual as well as those are all right well that’s what they want for their supposed to be what you want isn’t mantras together right yes cool man well that’s amazing so and then it’s for the people who are not aware of cymatics in the same a task open this whole science do you can you put it in into your words I don’t think I’ve ever mention that I may have mentioned before on the show but but it’d be great to have you kind of give it an intro overview on what that is how I know I’m not an expert on any of this the idea is that Whatever frequency that you’re broadcasting right it’s going to create a like I say if you put water down or sand on a metal plate that’s one device that they’ve created it’ll create a visual representation right of the sound wave and so to me it worked more with like the hidden messages of water that in Moto but you know this idea that like your language creates a frequency that the water is reciprocal can receive okay so this gets into magic than this whole idea of like Abracadabra write these ideas of magic so you’re creating frequencies that the liquid will literally take on a physical representation of that frequency right so that gets you back to what you were talking about what she was like before 3 to tuning is the correct tuning for health and Universal well-being as opposed to what I and I get I don’t even know what the other what tuning do we use nelacar western or 4:40 is the Nazi conspiracy tuning that we have to go research that’s exactly right why are we here now because of 440 tuning right there’s some great documentaries are some really funny kind of spooky ones to online on YouTube but it’s it’s pretty amazing what some of these Millennials are doing with with YouTube and and fair use kind of phone hacking Montage V yeah it’s amazing some of the stuff on 432 I’ll just blow your mind in that pattern is just a visual representation in a lot of times if you do look at these different mandalas they are a visual representation of that so I can’t it I don’t know I’m not a you know I’m not a professional in this I don’t know the history of this and that you can follow it like you were actually brought that up earlier you can follow this culturally back you know to through many different cultures right yeah that’s what I’ve been told is that it’s it’s basically natural organic instruments kind of default to these to be some intervals or this December standard and he will say it’s the residents of the Earth and space safely you’re tuning yourself to the to the Earth frequency in that when when when the baddies figured out that they could create disease and agitation and disruption on the cellular level than they basically they had an elaborate conspiracy that’s pretty historically you know that you can I don’t I don’t have all the facts memorized and there aren’t there is some debate obviously about some of the more conspiratorial aspects but it’s very interesting the actual the actual what is factually known about this process that was used that was kind of a ruse like a rigged election to vote on which should be the standard tuning and the characters behind some of that rigging or people that we would think there’s distasteful character is in the history of politics it thanks but it’s interesting that yes no I mean that completely makes sense to me that completely makes the most simple emotional level like I mean I think even Beyond you know the technicality of the 4:40 or the universe has the 432 Hertz tuning horror movie you know it it’s it’s causing that this evidence that it’s not the visuals that are so horrific as much as it is the sound design you know and it don’t spoil you learn that in in your sound production companies you know our class has him so I’d say if it’s the idea that you know there is this sharp stop right and it goes to something else so which way you can almost like I could give you the laghetti or penderecki score from The Shining you know it ain’t that goes like you know it’s that pluck that’s the condo that creates this like shift in your body it startles you you know I don’t see how I mean I think that does kind of support the 440 not to see if there is a bad tuning right yeah so yeah I totally see that you know that we interesting attitude knowing that you have this the background in creating the the horror movie soundtracks can we zoom in a little bit on that and sort of what that’s a sort of bitters at that’s a ceremony of you’re creating and you’re making that music and you’re feeling into the Vibes of you know the director or the storyline and what not what would you say and I think that is it’s important that we were that’s all lessons hopefully we watch these movies and we become better people after we watch them cuz we see oh my God I’m about like two more relationships away from acting like that guy who’s the new that I almost feel like if you don’t if you don’t express your Shadow and dance with your Shadow then then obviously we’ll run you unconsciously and so I think there is a important place for for owning and in respecting these film genres even in in not trying to demonize them as it were until you have played a role in in channeling and hopefully in the air with a sense of ultimately doing good or better and are helping helping Souls evolved dino by exposing the steps I’m just curious if you could talk about like what how that felt or how that feels see you when you still into those rounds in that energy and then you allow it to possess you to create tones and and scores and stuff like that so interesting well then you could you bring up bring up a great point because I’d have to say and I’m going to dress this first while it’s fresh in my memory I dissolve lab report because there was a social because I realize you had to be responsible and I think we were being irresponsible I really do that project was completely dissolved because I thought it was being taken in the wrong direction it was being worshiped and adored when it should have been repulsive and and horrifying the people and we would you know this is back in the day before the internet right and so we had you know what y’all near album you put out that you got signed a record it was old school right we got signed to a record label I mean the first record we put out was actually final you know and and then the second record again I had Genesis Breyer p-orridge on Lydia lunch and so you know there is some big names coming in and we were creating quite a a horrific sound and we would get fan mail it stopped and I would always respond to this but quite frankly I found most of it just utterly disturbing you know and to me like the Helga II again Timbaland so empowering in really meet people where they’re at and as I’m thinking like this him in hearing you speak I feel like the if I had to explain to somebody who never heard the word Tantra before and you’ll people ask me to clients and we’re not where should I begin and what should I read and certainly there’s I really enjoy Urban Tantra by Barbara carrellas and also the jewel in the Lotus and also the complete idiot’s guide to tantric sex this one ever had I’m waiting for this I’m waiting I’ve been waiting for something like this every time yeah I just praise here at your style and approach and I really think the what it brings together is it just these two words kind of came to me these two terms just like that the self-help genre and the self-help movement is something that is sort of its kind of made fun of or it’s not it’s not really taking totally seriously or it’s kind of like oh yeah you’re there something wrong with you and if you were normal you would you would not need to go that route so it’s kind of like a weird thing where you might you might lose respect for yourself even by questioning that or thinking what am I to you having a midlife crisis I don’t need that you know what is going on but then with Tantra it’s so there’s such a almost like a martial arts kind of level of self-mastery and self-discipline I really is the sort of Jedi training and I think you bring that you sent the size those two for me those two opportunities where it’s like yeah you you’re actually using courage and bravery and becoming a warrior but then you’re doing all this really touchy feely deep emotional work and that should that should take care of people’s hesitation to go either on a warrior path or on a more self-help spiritual path that gives you your compelling people to take both and for when men I think they they seek that out maybe they seek the warrior path more than the spiritual path but there’s I think there’s a lot of marketing and hype around that for men but this is really good tip for a loved one country women’s use the word Fierce and they invoke that that energy and they Empower femininity with with that those archetypes so could you talk maybe a bit about what that means to you the that just reconciling masculine or feminine Shiva Shakti really kind of bringing these tools of of strength and resolve and discipline to two women who may be of this been crushed by patriarchy you know for Generations oh yeah that’s a big question right there yeah and that’s I mean being crushed by Peter I came that’s definitely why I wrote the book and I actually why you were talking I just wanted to mention that I have a section on their on you know telling women to how to stop denying that masculine energy or also men love because I find that you know because you know a lot of the women I work with the idiot had just bad experiences with men or with times that they’ve stepped into their masculine energy and so they’ve just been very hurt by it and then they sort of backed away from it and you know I try to work with them on you know it’s about housing balance of Both Worlds and really understanding what the masculine is and also the ways in which masculine and men have been disempowered you know and really starting to take ownership of that you notice a lot of times women are like you know when I start bringing in the masculine they’re like okay I know I bet that’s like to heavy like that kind of energy that they don’t want to work with that energy and they don’t want to explore that energy and so I say okay you know there’s there’s no pressure and there’s no rush cuz you got to do what feels right to you and a lot of time they seem. Just by like stepping in to do that feminine energy because it is fierce right it is courageous it is powerful like you said there is not Warrior quality to it I’m still by simply die do something like this to summon and energy you actually calling up you know those masculine aspect you’re calling up that strength that where your strength at the same time without really realizing it so unconsciously and and you’re bringing those forces them to bounce and I’ve seen that a lot of times with women that I’ve worked but I’m really like surprised at how the feminine wild like this actually you know it’s soft there is softness in the feminine but as you claim it and as you’re able to fearlessly stick with that and embrace set and embodying it naturally you know.. Here’s mess. Power starts to rise time to help stabilize their energy and so it’s pretty much really a magical thing it’s pretty amazing and so I have this part in my book about you know how to really heal yourself from what you thought maybe you know how house Gary masculine energy might be some time I’m sure there are practices that really going to that and yeah and then that’s really a big part of my work to because a man I mean we are in need of some major balance here on this planet and in this life in this world so I really feel the more that we can Embrace anybody and I’m leaning into the feminine that is rising right now in the more we can scan with that the more that we can make space for on the masculine to heal and balance and a bike ride but like Reno really hot like it in excess right but Valance in such a way that it kind of comes down to meet the famine in so that this beautiful kind of dance can emerge Amor Harmony and that would just make such a huge total impact and we just within the body the container of one individual body being able to fuse and merge those energies so powerful yeah I’m really is why I do what I do awesome yeah I can say from experience from the first couple of experiences and session work that I experienced with you then I really got I was able to feel the force so you know that if we’re going to be using that Jenna archetype you know in in there if you want to call Kundalini Shakti goddess energy which is I love calling I love I love hearing of Kundalini as a salmon in force and you were the one who activated that for me and it was just very unusual yeah I remember like it was yesterday and so I appreciate it in you you can get really philosophical and really theoretical but grounding everything into practices to make it as a workbook almost it sounds like this is amazing so you and it’s something that has to be felt in the body to really know what it is yeah it’s hard it’s hard to find words nothing will thank you for all that great work do you feel kind of complete as in that in this kind of brief introduction but but pretty I think it’s a pretty good overview I definitely thrilled to to go deeper with it and others will be as well so I wanted to give the bulk of this episode to this important news of promoting and getting the word out about the book and then but also address questions that I’ve had as a sort of I’ve become a sort of meta Godparent to a lot of different mothers who were rebranding as independent mothers who are in various stages of Court battles with baby daddies for custody and for child support and and I’ve just checking on this sort of I decided I’m not going to reproduce biologically all of my vasectomy but I will reproduce culturally by my being short playing that that more of a Shimano roll in peace and also keeping a little bit of distance from that that this is a an ancient sword of time tree thing of if you are not to be the guru per se but to be an Adept you may have to disengage from householding because there’s just so much mundane kind of learning and things you got to sit through so your country path is always going to be kind of a balancing act between how much of a household are you going to be and what roles are going to have within a community and then how far out you get to go on your own into your mystical practices so I have taken that past of offsetting my my familial obligations a bit so that I could study things from afar and then just go to be this force of will hopefully an Angelic sort of force supporting women who are in different degrees of Crisis that’s just a little bit of a of a context for why it’s important for me now to reconnect with you in a n n learn from you and share your teachings about Tantra parenting the pattern that has been emerging in the question is being asked of me and the view is is how does a woman who has just recently given birth and going through all these different chemical changes and hormonal changes how do you what’s the advice on keeping that spark of love and attraction alive with the baby daddy partner what are some some tricks and tips that you would recommend for for that really critical bonding you know six segments of Life first of all I’m not going to lie. I think the first thing to do is I mean really too kind of except that it’s not going to be the same but. It’s actually you know like I said with you know what having kids how you’re able to look at the things that really matter to you that was so when you actually are with your partner and you have those moments you know they might be less but we are going to be amazing because you are fully present and you’re showing up each moment you know and the end of a lot of for me it’s like when I first became a mom so I had my first son and it was really hard I was just like what cuz I was Dino stole so focused on your child and really wanted to be there to nurture that I and you are you know you’re you’re so deep into it into motherhood and it’s so new everything is so new and exciting and exhausting but I am in a few months I was just like oh my gosh like how how does this work how do we make this work and it was really really difficult very difficult but I found that by you know because I’ve had my kids almost 8 years now until I found that really what we eat sometimes you know if if we need to say like make an appointment with each other and that’s what we have to do if we have to put it on the calendar they okay these are the the two or the three days a week that were scheduling for ourselves for intimacy for connection then that’s we’re going to do that first there was a struggle because my husband’s like okay this isn’t sexy yo after he got over that initial thing it was like okay like we can do this we can make time for this we can we can be intentional about it for us really had to do that because not only was it you know hard navigating with kids now but also the work you know work in the balance of that it was just really tough so that was one of the things that we did the other thing that I want to say is that sometimes you know you you have good intentions but I got at the end of the day you’re exhausted and and then you just end up wanting to just sit there and whatever you want to do watch TV or you know just go to bed until I always like to say that really if you really want to keep that sparked going not to give up just because you feel like okay you know I don’t have that energy right now or I don’t have the time to put into this right now to really see and used Contra in a way that it’s really meant to be experienced right because Todd’s are really isn’t just all about sex right and having that fat set spark Tundra is it much deeper than that and so sometimes you have to tell yourself like okay even though we don’t have time to make love right now maybe maybe it’s just about lying down next to each other synchronizing out of breath making that I contact I’m falling asleep to that I’m letting that be enough you know before you know this night or this week or whatever it is like in the beginning it’s not to really put so much pressure on yourself but to use Simple practice is like you know that you have your own position and just sitting there together and being or maybe you know it’s one night you really need a massage right now you know I really just after having a long day or a long week and be with the kids so much that’s what I really need so communicating that to your partner and really staying in touch with that and not being embarrassed or not feeling like it’s too much or too much of a burden or whatever it is just really being clear about what you deeply need I’m in a lot of that comes down to really checking in you know with yourself all the time and seeing what’s there I really feel like things like that even though you know you might be cuz it’s also self-care right so you’re able to connect with your partner in that way and then you’re also able to have that time must be nurtured and a slowing down which is also key so I think everyone is going to work differently and it’s going to be unique for all of us but it’s really about finding those opportunities to stay consistent to really stay connected in those small tangible ways and mlc really accepting that it’s okay that you know your relationship has changed the amount of time might be able to have to devote to one another Soul has changed I’m not true but you can actually take all that and evolve it into something in a lot of cases that really goes much deeper than that you know because now it’s it’s amazing you know you have this this connection and you know going through motherhood and Emma strikes that that gives you time to actually be able to take that foundation and that strength and that those nurturing abilities and that expression being able to use that with your partner in your relationship I’m having that Foundation really can make me very powerful in a way that’s unexpected just as amazing as you always bring it back to the fundamentals of the practices this is not all hot air to talk about it tell about doing it doing the work and I just feel like it makes me think that I can think of I mean I know some couples will have the foresight to at least make prenuptial agreement but I can’t think of anyone who they actually said we are going to go through the most insane trans transformation of everything we know we can if its first time parents who have no clue what to expect and they and what if they were to get these to be the eye of a storm throughout anyting that’s the Abbey unless Ty gazing the synchronized breathing you can’t touch that space with anything so but but pure Bliss and whatever does need to get work through if it’s done in that space it’s going to be conscious it’s going to be a constructive and it’s going to be a firming so I feel like it’s the what I’m hearing you say and what diarrhea firm is two people listening if you were expecting and you want to keep this container of love together and ever strengthening then start doing his practices now and know that you’re going to really rely on them it’s going to be life-and-death okay we’re just going there so I can breed all right like can’t we just do that let’s just do that next week or let’s just all of that I mean once you start doing it and engaging and you feel that present in your body and the Net Connection you have to just trust that all of that and all of that adds up and all of that makes a difference in your relationship every moment of that that time that you have on to be able to connect in that way as powerful well thank you again for bringing it back to to those core practices again you could have a lot of compliments sure there’s a million complicated bits of advice that people could give for this but this is so practical and and I just I dare people could really do it in and I don’t think you can fail you know I don’t think it’s possible to fail if you have good intentions and you do the scratches so yeah so we were getting also to your kind of making a perfect segue to the next question which is more more about the the asymmetry of responsibility and Duty specially for breastfeeding mothers and mothers to be carried to full-term and whatnot it’s it’s like there’s such a the mail investment just as how I always make this joke there probably less violence in the world is men had to breastfeed but women actually held the babies in their room still so imagine that you wouldn’t be off to go into war and using weapons and guns and swords that she had breastfeeding on demand for whatever after 5 years income that would be great that leaves man with such an unfair and balance of freedom and privilege to not be bound to the those tasks so a lot of women are rightfully lamenting this sensitive of the men who are supposed to be there showing up to with the with the mother is hoping for is that yeah he’s going to go to work and put food on the table and make it so I don’t have to work hopefully or I can work you know in a way that I can still be involved in my children’s lives you know for God’s sake you know who something something not just not just the short maternity leave remind me that the CEO of YouTube is a yogini who is Hardcore advocate for way longer maternity leave or something yeah I didn’t know that I’ll send you a link to a video where it where you get to see that she’s actually really badass them she’s a fierce that ass woman who’s awake I have no idea how did you navigate and how do you recommend for women who maybe don’t have is as blessed of a of a beloved Fixer-Upper type type men how do you get them on board with really going the extra mile of of checking in about about the needs a mother you know mother would have if she is being assertive about her knees in about the new suicide where she would like how can you be humbled to her and just be asking and showing up to being serviced that’s a question that’s a really great question and I have to say that I’m really fortunate with Eric because he I mean he has just him and he is just been a tremendous support from the beginning but then at the same time it’s like I also have to do my part with him right of being very clear about I need you no because then it that this always with him you know in the beginning of special rub up against this when he just wouldn’t know you know and I would be just waiting silently expecting something but he wouldn’t really know that that was what exactly I was looking for right because for women it’s like having that ability to breastfeed and nurture and carry this baby. Room I mean just how we have those abilities so readily at hand and we know what we need sometimes it’s hard to say yeah I need this actually it sometimes it’s hard because where we can be so strong you know and we can put off the 15 so strong and like we have everything together and I know that I do that a lot of time where I’m just like yep I’m good I don’t need help I look what I’m doing all by myself I’m doing all these amazing but that really inside I’m like oh my gosh like what am I I can’t do all this by myself and just allowing your partner that opportunity like okay like this is really what I need and this is the support that I need and this is how I feel going through that and not being afraid to say I am overwhelmed right now you know and and can you please and saying this from a place of love right not from a place that judgment and like what are you doing for me and you know resenting that you know you have more freedom than me and Bubba blah and I’m here breastfeeding or whatever it is not doing it from that place but from you know from your center from a place of love like I’m I’m really overwhelmed I need help with this right now you know can you get up be up with a baby now for two hours because I only had 3 hours of sleep last night instead of just silently you know doing in that moment when you feel I mean I I just I know a lot of of moms and a lot of friends who dust will just be like okay well he didn’t you know my partner my spouse he didn’t step up and so I had to do it and then my will but did you say something and they’re like no or maybe they did say something but you know it wasn’t from that place you know of just clear intentional loving vulnerable until. I think that was one of the biggest things for me especially you know when our relationship I’m like okay and then you know my husband tries to tell me like he’s Eichler like he’s like really I want to be able to show up for you like I want to be strong for you I want you to feel good but he’s like I honestly don’t I just need to to hear it I just sometimes I need to be told or I need to be reminded because it doesn’t come as naturally to me and then show me be mindful of that and not you know not falling to being hurtful or resentful something makes me cute different do you know well that’s really really profound that that really gets to the hardest exactly what I’m seeing go wrong inside once at once that slippery slope really hard I mean it’s kids once this thing start to add up then breaking through that you’re really. It’s really snowballing and that’s your thing everything is this Noble thing I’ve seen it yet so that is great advice I think that work that I said the fly to something if x is kind of ridiculous that it reminds me of I remember seeing young young women and whatever middle school or high school and home home economics class and they will be given an assignment to have a baby doll with them for whatever and in that relationship it’s like okay honey we’re going to do what it’s going to feel like for me to be busy and need help from you and you put in your garden that would be funny if it decided to give people that sensitivity at sensitivity training cuz once it’s already ratchet up and then more expenses than what I’m seeing to notice let me know way more than I do but it’s like I don’t think I think people underestimate the cost of of multiple visits to the pediatrician a week you know it’s like figuring out food allergies and decoding the sugar all of the ways that sugar is is is surreptitiously inserted into packaged food and just it’s such a pill battle to be holistic and to be in at all so it’s just this this is all in on top of just I mean most people are just buying everything off the shelf from entertainment to toys to food to diapers and whatever it is it’s all just off the shelf but to have that effect of wanting to do better than the last Generations or to resist the marketing and be more green or whatever that’s a whole another layer of the building so you know it’s just to get more and more complicated and at the end of the day I see the women just getting ran ragged and the dudes just kind of blowing him off sadly to say but if we could he had say that actually kind of Segways a bit to another question which is and this I mean you could you could write a whole book just on this subject alone out so I don’t expect you to to go too far into it but maybe just some off the top of your head pointers and we can move along quick to know we’re getting close on time so so any suggestions for creative and educational and non-toxic toys just a few maybe went to one website or one store just don’t know anything I don’t know if I’d be the best person to ask about that because I not that they have a choice in general just because you know like all the plastic and everything I mean and we like literally their toys are like one corner of our house like a couple of containers and that’s it and they barely even play them to be honest with you I feel like the simpler the better you know I feel like I’m all about like art you know art projects you know the pain and the crayons and all the art supplies and things like that so that they can enhance their minds and use their hands that way and explore that way they’re into that but I found that you know the purchases that I made with toys throughout the years it’s like that use it and then they’re done and that’s like a big hunk of plastic sitting there are biodegradable and Wooden Spoons and then they’d be busy for 2 or 3 hours you know that they have gotten that I get them they’re like okay and then they open it and then they look at it for 10 minutes and then I end up you know it’s just a way so yes so we do more we like to do more stuff you know in nature I mean they like to play you know what they say they love gospel they love being outdoors they love Ari and they love puzzles and things like that so that’s why I hope that I hope and pray that we will all have abundant opportunities to being healthy natural environments and have plenty of more outdoor time the better cuz there’s some nature is like endless you know just being outside they’re like so fascinated by every little thing the backyard I don’t know it exactly how I like how did the people survived all of those many years ago without these big pieces of plastic and well that is exactly what I thought I hope to hear in and a very firm it if so this is another test of the last one here is probably the the most kind of universal so I don’t know if there is an answer to this question however I died would like to spend I would like to spend my golden years doing a lot more anthropological research on on foraging sigala Terry and societies before you spell hunter-gatherer societies who have basically none of the the neurotic issues that people in the modern world have and and I love to know I would like to believe that there is that there was a golden age of human Innocents where the terrible twos didn’t exist and then that we could decode that and figure out what is it more nurturing Less Talk toxins I mean is it just that there’s so much overstimulation and so many maybe you’re actually able to perceive carcinogens at that age and then you stopped being able to and that’s why I mean it could be anything less or I could just sent them know something very out of balance that’s just modern so I’m just wondering if you have if you were really idealistic about know I’m going to teach there going to be a master Yogi’s by the age of one so that the terrible twos happen though I already beat exam enough I don’t know why you if you were like I don’t know like tell me what that’s been like for you and then if you have advice for people who are in that approaching that Horizon will for me I really I really just try to go with the flow you know just so I’ll talk to style just like accepting every part of it I was just part of the the beautiful messy process of development and growth and exploration and sometimes I do know because otherwise then it’s just become so hard you know what I’m saying because you expect it is you’re going to have meltdowns right it’s not it’s not going to be easy is there at like going to be some very tough days especially in the beginning if it’s going to be hard you feel like what what am I what did I get myself into one of my hairdo evaporate the next moment you know you’re going to feel the most joy and Bliss and happiness that you ever felt like wow that’s amazing that I get to be a part of this process you know that I get to witness this human being growing and developing and it’s it’s just amazing so it’s really you know you know the whole ton truck idea of a flowing through those energy that accepting every moment no matter how chaotic and allowing those emotions and those feelings and those moments to move to you during this challenging time to witness in you know children and young children because it’s like they can like be so happy in one moment and literally within five seconds that can beat me on the floor it’s crazy right it’s like oh my gosh the wide array of emotions from moment to moment and not inhibit that till I I feel like you know it’s like wow for me initially seen that in the beginning and fidget with night was my first one and that you can just move so fluidly like this and just just like that and get so consumed by something else in another moment we just amazing to me so I think we can really take a lot of sign a lot of lessons and just being present at something to a Full Circle closed right now because what I am even before you started to reply that lesson for grown-ups really about about cycling through your full expression and not choking your body is response to a situation out and the full the full body response to a situation I was actually remember me on my phone while I remember a room full of adults it you and Eric’s condo and we were being instructed to behave like children having a tantrum so that we can feel good and actually know the nice that storm there’s like the sun and the blue sky and in the EXO baekhyun the funny faces and doing the monster dance and some just like well you’re probably realizing hits are the times of the exactly yeah it’s it’s pretty amazing to witness is there a word for like reverse parenting or something has got to be a word for the the the from children actually teaching adults what they’re forgetting and I didn’t mean well that’s really it’s a really heartwarming conversation and I feel like the people who are hearing this and who have experienced so much pain and distress that there is such a open source free to use to spend your own time studying it get this book read the book watch Roadies videos I certainly considered to be the highest resource that I like to share with folks because of the same reason they listen before adjusters I don’t feel like there is a knot a snake-oil aspect of what you’re selling and there’s not a sort of a shady ulterior motive saying a gender that I have to worry about and and I just can’t say that about that many people until I’m sure you know and I certainly feel for myself that you know I have I always want to be deferring is often as possible to sort of protect my Integrity to not be the what do they call it like the god cock Shaman is just a narcissistic people’s souls and that’s easy enough to it’s easier to take that route of that that black timeshare manipulate manipulate almost hard not to do it so I mean I’m making and I feel like we are making major effort cuz that’s the complete opposite of what you are and what you and body I mean from the very beginning so yeah no thank you I really feel like you are just I mean somebody who’s just really in there doing that you’re like doing the work you know and you like do it like with an open heart you’re just like in there and you’re talking to everybody and just creating this just really amazing platform. You should be really proud of well thank you again and again I have to say you helped start at all and one of my the first real social proof that I had was that was your gracious licensing of me to share some of the video work that we did together it’s been a blessing that go into detail but all that in that in that previous episode supposed to listen of that and I will say that we we were blessed and burden in this in this time of this episode to take to cover a good intro to the book and also to open this discussion about time to Parenting I definitely want to set the intention that in the future we will give more of a of a deep dive into your personal background and it sort of will let that be a cliffhanger to hear about your experiences early introduction of Tantra and just kind of the got your path of building that confidence and certainly the form give experience Syfy oh my God it all yeah we haven’t got into your filmography either still be there next time to say this for next time to talk about birth because yes I mean not as deep and my experience naturally delivering and doing it with Tantra as my Foundation is the only way that I said I survived it and actually enjoyed it. Arrington have the complete box set free thank you so much thank you so much for having me it was really great and most richest time in in a moment to to share this Basin and certainly yeah it’s it’s a got it just give you a big big bow down because this you were the one who helped me start this this whole journey I don’t know I don’t know who I’d be or where I’d be doing it if we didn’t have a Meeting of Minds you know so yeah I can’t believe I forgot to say this I mean you were seriously you were the first one who discovered my website you were the first one who reached out to me and one of the first that I’ve actually I will say the first that I taught that I didn’t know because I had started already like teaching but like you know friends and friends of friends but you were the first clean one like the first student I was like oh wow yeah that that walked in and like was the beginning of really that Journey so thank you I did not know that I did not realize that that that’s funny so funny I can’t believe I never told you that that’s very well so everybody just like get over your awkwardness and just represent just like bring your egg and no matter what things will come out you know it’ll all fall in place to get back to the Sam and yeah I give them my love and thank them for allowing you to to do the book and for all of the people who parted the sea so that you could get that book done and then provide provide that to us and so much more thank you I know it I just want to say thank you so much for Amy what you just what you spoke about earlier just blew me away how you been stepping up to support women and you know what your mother’s I mean you are really holding for me to space there and this is really something that you know I know that would indeed and you know a lot of them have been longing for so thank you so much for for being that person and for filling that role cuz it’s just amazing the work that you’ve been doing all these years I thank you you planning to see each other that they were they say that it’s the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree at least in the sense of the guru to train me to be a womanizing pick up artist in the name of conscience so I guess that’s why we you know gravitated toward each other There Was You know. The little like energy so I think I don’t think you would have found that path that was not your will thank you so much again yeah so much so much good vibes and good times and we will be in touch soon and and best of luck with all of your your your book emotional adventurous okay great thank you so much fun. Country Park. Calm and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple provide ketologic employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email band at Township Park. Com Thomas gay

Futurizing Spirituality Education and Goddess Worship with Visionary Artist Satva TPP202

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In this episode I’m joined by one of my all time favorite visionary artists Satva. We met briefly at the Los Angeles conscious life expo about 10 years ago. I was mesmerized by his unique approach to depicting divine feminine beauty and themes of futurism, sci fi, anime, and much more. It was an honor to have him on the podcast to tell the story of his personal spiritual and artistic evolution.

My favorite of his works is a collection of “Chakra Devis” which are stunningly beautiful representations of the personalities of the chakras, anthropomorphized as human yoginis. He takes us on a guided tour of the symbolism and intentions for each of the 7 major chakra devi pieces. I was extremely grateful to have an opportunity to share my appreciation for his works, it was like a podcast version of chatting with the artist at an art show opening.

We also discuss his yoga gear line Echelon Active and several other creative projects under development. He’s definitely on a path to transform and transmit ancient sacred healing and empowering wisdom to the modern world through an array of multi-media offerings.

Please visit him online at:

http://www.3satva.com/chakra-devi.html

https://www.instagram.com/echelonactive/

https://www.instagram.com/3satva/

https://echelonactive.com

About Satva:

Michael Satva is a visionary artist with a unique futuristic new age spiritual aesthetic. With an eclectic upbringing being influenced by world religions, hip hop, graffiti, and the melting pot culture of California, Michael has synthesized a unique spiritual identity that incorporates elements from the ancient past and the future to create new archetypes of gods and goddesses for the modern and future world. He has worked on a plethora of projects from comic books and video games, to brand development and fashion design. Throughout all of his work he has a mission to portray women as powerful and divine by invoking goddess worship in a new 21st century form.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 202 I am being joined by saatva who is a Visionary artist that I encountered now several years ago back up around 2010 I believe that the conscious life Expo and West LA and he had a booth there where there was just the most Exquisite activating beautiful depictions of yoginis in these representations of the chakras and I had never seen shelter more compelling set of artworks really I would say in my life and I since I was in a pubescent and developing and developing my my arrow so you know I really was attracted to the the Visionary art and a Sci-Fi art of the the heavy metal comics and the the even the Akira comics and definitely would like steeped as a as a adolescent in this futuristic sci-fi and an anyting erotic I obviously devoured and so I really was a big fan of Louis Royal as well as like I bought those art books at his in Geiger and what not and what would I think a lot of that stuff lacked for me was this activating sacred geometry spiritually intelligent Dimension mixed with the Sci-Fi mixed with the futurism and in with the arrow sin so when I saw at the conscious life Expo and I saw that the only things coming together it was just like so such a turn-on at to my eyes and my heart so I bought a shirt and I wore it around for many years and I love it and I want everybody to see this sort of Flagship part that said we’re going to talk about today that the Shocker Davies but we also talked about his other multimedia formats but really I feel like this is one of those very few and a lifetime epiphanies of really connecting with the work of an artist so it’s a huge honor supposed to have you on the podcast at this stuff with in and help us appreciate your work and I I just feel like it’s time and it’s right for me in a lot of ways to talk with you about collaborations in commissions and Licensing and what not I think this is just really healing and beautiful work so with all that said tell us all about your journey as an artist and how did you develop the skills in end of the wisdom that you embed into the works thank you a lot and I appreciate that you are you are touched by it and I’m just trying to manifest what I’m what I’m seeing from a from essentially from an alternate future that one that we’re not really seeing in this world one that the one we see is very devoid of culture and and I see a future that’s full of a plethora of cultures and the Melting Pot of of everything so for me that’s an odd future Optimist at heart and I want to see the world become a better place so a lot of my heart has to do with empowering women in a way that Society for so long has emailed them down and a lot of it comes in as a as a goddess worship and growing up I was raised by hippie parents who were in The New Age movement my mom was a yoga teacher growing up my dad was involved with a Buddhist Monastery and old Burmese Buddhist Community I grew up with a very open-minded a household that I was experienced I was some influence by cultures from around the world from Judaism to Christianity to the ancient Egyptian religion to Hinduism to Buddhism all of that was very present in my childhood so I was able to kind of piece things together and create my own spiritual beliefs out of that and and so what one thing that has come through a lot for me is just how a lot of these religions have avoided the worship of the goddess and just even within Judaism how it started out with the Ashera who is the goddess consort to Yahweh and even within Hinduism this emphasis on Krishna run on Ganesh instead of the different goddesses that were incredibly powerful and so what what I found is of all the religions that Hinduism really seems the most intact from the ancient goddess times and so I definitely gained the most inspiration from Hinduism and I feel like it’s really relevant to today because we live in a world where women are getting more power gaining more voice and so there is there’s a necessity to find the spiritual embodiment of of the female in a way that’s that’s like absurd to me that it hasn’t exist existed because in a women create life that’s just how it works and yet here we are seeing this this God created the universe and it’s just like a text but here on the earth you know women create life everyday so how come we’re denying the Goddess that that roll of of the Divine Creator and be in holding that sacred and so that’s that’s essentially part of my spiritual belief is and I I try to manifest that with my heart and make it current in a way that you know a lot of the gods and goddesses are depicted in their own cultural context from you know thousands of years ago but I I look into the the spiritual world for what a current Avatar of that would be in a sentence how how these energies and Spirits manifest in the modern world because we we live in the in a world where were most religions are intact and and unchanging from thousands of years and yet the energies have shifted so drastically that it’s I feel like it’s time for some new archetypes new spiritual archetypes to be formed to help us move forward into a futuristic world and we’re not tied to old paradigms and old beliefs but we are able to manifest new realities based on the intersection of Science and spirit in you know even using the chakras as an example of finding the the scientific and energetic qualities of the chakras and then using those in our meditation it it it it brings it out so it’s not just some crazy religion it becomes a scientific practice of spirit of Consciousness and no other influences for me I was very influenced by hip-hop and graffiti in anime and robots and Max and just imagining the future that we’re about to enter and so it’s it’s finding that balance of these really ancient religions from ancient Egypt and Hinduism to you know robotic Max and colonizing Mars and just understanding those two extremes and finding finding a balance of that and that’s that’s really at the heart of most of my work beautiful it’s such a joy to hear all this because I’ve been stealing it and inviting with it in into no really that you have these BF antiquing in really true and deep hearted kind of influences and experiences and just it’s great to hear that that you have such an articulate View and vision and with bringing us together and I’m curious do you were you a big cyberpunk kind of sci-fi fan also of the film genres that depicted this futuristic stuff because I’m seeing this is very Blade Runner ich Tu me to definitely I love Blade Runner my favorite book of all time and snow crab and yeah I love cyberpunk I’m just I found in the last I used to think of myself as a cyberpunk artist until I really came to the conclusion that a lot of cyberpunk is very is like women hating and there’s this really dark kind of chauvinistic side to it that I really am against and so that it it really brings up a really interesting thing that it’s kind of like sifting through Instagram sifting through hashtags right you have certain hashtags which have the same content and only men are looking at it and then you have other Hashtags with their equivalent futuristic contact that women are looking at and so I’ve been trying to find that that balance wear allot how how we can bridge that divide and allow for an A+ female-centered cyberpunk to emerge that women want to embrace because it’s safe to say for example recently in Netflix there was a new series about robots and something robots and sex and love or something and it was awful it was so dark and my friends was like oh it’s cyberpunk you’re going to love it and I I hated it because it just was not it wasn’t an empowering experience I got I want to see you know women in the future that have superpowers that can just Blast away any anything that comes their way and you know it depicted a much more Twisted kind of reality and so for me that’s that’s my Prime objective is the empowerment of women to to be as beautiful or as strong or as you know as badass as they possibly can and I I I I seen more and more that that they need to hear that because Society often doesn’t doesn’t show that and and so yeah anyway that’s that’s that’s why I’m happy we’re so on the same page with that and I have my own reasons why in my life story and evolution I guess I call myself sometimes a gender traitor not that I’m in transition per se but that I just stopped being interested in ball games and barbecues and not to really insult modern masculinity but it’s just I realize that I had more I got more enjoyment and more fulfillment out of spending time in groups of women and being kind of a tomgirl maybe a kiss if there’s if it’s like exploring the mysteries of the feminine and really really sipping the nectar of the goddess and wanting to serve instead of fronting with all my homies about how we treat our women like shit and how we’re all homophobia can it’s just this much he’s Mo it’s just really exhausting in a real a real turn off to me and so I was able to I was just started to see the energy of the of the Shakti and I’m wondering in your story is there was there any kind of like breaking point or kind of fork in your road where you started to grab a tape and seek more of that the shock the energy or what was the Catalyst did you have like amazing sexual Kundalini experience and you became a devel goddess worship or just where the goddess worship enter your the your certified the Zeitgeist of your mind I mean San Francisco is a very bizarre place in growing up there in the 80s and 90s it was a very strange mix of things that that made it very confusing to grow up there and that was because the the mix of the feminist movement with the the game movement had this really strange effect where they made all the straight men into like villains and it vilified finding women attractive in the strange way where it where if I found the guy attractive that would be okay but if I found a woman attractive I was in a sentence you know turning her into an object and it and it was this this bizarre place where we’re by the time I was twelve I had guilt for finding women attractive and I was the only one who had several friends who have similar experience without so is a very bizarre kind of the opposite World should should I say but it took me a long time to realize that some women love being beautiful and that there’s nothing wrong with beauty itself like that and and different types of beauty are found Beautiful by different men and women and so that that like that denial of the beauty of the feminine was kind of driver for me to be like no I find this beautiful and I don’t think that this is wrong I’m not I’m not like objectifying I’m I’m you know admiring and idolizing a certain Beauty comes from the Divine source that that women just magically have this power to have this beauty and it’s not just Skin Deep there’s a beauty there’s a Grace and you know different women have different types of Beauty in and so it just really forced me to to really look deeply at that and at my own my own you know contractions vs. what women in the women around me what they wanted and and so it it’s interesting cuz you you have this other side of feminism that says okay women have to go to work and women have to be just like men and then you have someone like Hillary Clinton who dresses like a man and yet she’s the embodiment of the feminist movement come president and yet along the way everything feminine is lost and and that there’s this idea that everything feminine is there for negative that must be removed in order for a woman to be equal that that really I can’t you know it makes no sense to me I mean it just even the fact that women now where you know at least in the 90s women all wore pants and it was like okay where were you know we’re trying to be more like men and that that was that was like the standard normal process and yet now I see with fashion with the way the world’s going women are allowed to embrace the feminine demore it’s become more acceptable with yoga and just how you know how fashion has emerged women are like yes I’m beautiful and I’m able to manifest is and and it’s not about men looking at me it’s about it’s about how I feel right so you know the name that goes to the whole the whole dichotomy of the Muslim burka vs. you know women who don’t want to wear anything in this that whole that whole realm is like is it the man’s job to like tell a woman what she can wear what or is it a woman’s job to decide how she wants to express herself and I saw an end and I see that women have every possible View and so there’s no reason that that any man should decide what what they want for themselves so it’s it’s all tied 2-2 you know all of these issues that are still really you know present today and and so that’s that’s really well that’s that’s my story how I came into it that’s awesome and it’s just so timely to because literally right before we haven’t started the conversation I just flashed onto Instagram and saw that there is like a flash mob sort of a thing of women laying down nude at the intersection in front of the Facebook Instagram headquarters I believe in New York City and they were holding up giant art pieces or photographs of nipples in a basically it’s a weave in nipple hashtag what they’re protesting and so this is Xavier literally we are at this moment of the intersection of what you’re saying and and I’ve had a funny thought for a few years now about how yet but if a man you know is if is threatened by the nipple and afraid of it he can just wear like we can save a lot of fabric by just using one strip of a blindfold and then head that all of that sitter putting all of that cloth on women just put a tiny strip on your eyes and then you know walk around with the assistance of some kind and then you will you know you won’t be your poison by their erotic you know powers whatever you think is going on but it’s powerful it’s a powerful incredible I if you using Instagram again all the most popular accounts on Instagram are women and it just shows that in this new new era you know after hundreds of years of Oppression or stop thousands of years that women really are on the verge of running running running the show in a different way and that men men’s role is we are the support for them to be able to to grow and manifests that they need us and we need them and I’m not saying that men are inferior it’s it’s it’s more in line with how the ancient cultures were had this more symbiotic relationship where women have their place and they had they had power in it and and so yeah so I mean if you go back in time it it’s it’s really a trip when you start researching like ancient Egyptian and a lot of the even during Rome a lot of the religious centers of goddess worship the women inside wood would sleep with with the people come in they were essentially prostitutes but they were revered prostitute so it was like this strange it said it was a different way of thinking of it and then as patriarch eat so cold it started demonizing these these temples and you know the cult of Isis was so widespread across all the room that the only way to defeat it was when they they turned it into mother Mary so that they could you know turn turn into a Jesus thing but but yeah in the ancient world women women had incredible power even when you look at ancient Egypt a lot the the only way of pharaoh had power is if the mother was vine where is the mother was an Isis you were you were not you were nobody if your mother was a nice and so essentially it was if you are Pharaoh you had to have a royal Queen Mother and that was just a very different way to look at things then we have today and when that when the the Greeks came in and they wrote the history they wrote all the women outside of the Egyptian history so we don’t we don’t have a record of of the actual history we have it filtered through Roman and Greek guys that were incredibly patriarchal so yeah I feel like here we are again at at a Crossroads and it’s super important that women and I don’t think all women realize that yet I think women across the world still have a long way to go but we’re at that crossroads where men you know men are the protectors and are the support women can blossom and be whoever they want to be and I think that’s super important for the world to even and all this violence and all the wars in the world you know as soon as there’s a female cat Collective running the planet then you know you think they’re going to want War 2 happen like course not I totally totally this is all the philosophy and ideology that I am totally aligned with and exactly you have make Make Love Not War and facilitate the the women to be intimate in a more of a primal for me looking at bonobos even in just looking at how functional non Dominator matriarchal or maitre folk cultures village-based societies are all of our ancestors worshipping the Leone worshipping the fertility of nature in the Saturn aspect it’s it’s really how we evolved and really we’re going to we’re wasting a lot of energy trying to fight that again ourselves and our nation state boundaries and borders and all of these and actually I have to compliment what you’re saying in this isn’t cynical at all it’s actually in total reverence and all of it but really when I think about when I was experiencing on Instagram what you’re talking about and I see like I million follower accounts and how Howell magnetizing and how addictive these images are for everybody and it really just reminds me that no matter what you try to layer on top of it or how you try to obscure if we are all seeking the goddess and we’re all just gorging ourselves on the imagery of the feminine and and all of its expressions and it’s so obvious there and it made me think of this this excerpt of me and Michael case we’re not rely realized we’re not living in any dictatorship we’re living in a butt ocracy would love to now that having kind of pushed out that the real the backstory for you and the meaning of this art I really would love to do a sort of kind of commentary behind-the-scenes expiration if you could give us a a curated kind of tour walkthrough of the it’s 3 sot for.com chakra Dash Davie. HDMI that’s what I’m looking at right now and starting from the bottom if we can if you can give us a little guy to Journey so anybody who is listening to this now if you want to queue up your browser or your phone to that page we’re going to take a journey of exploring the symbolism and the intelligence that you put into these beautiful works the ones that had captured my soul and his and it just kept me really seeking these expressions and I will tell you what these are magical sigils cuz as I look at these now and I’m like wow I’ve been able to manifest experiences with these prophetesses in my real life so this is something to study and and really poor energy into these works of art and and they will nourish your soul and they will get the hell rounds it is about diffusing that pleasurable experience across so many different Souls that it’s impossible to attributed to one person and really I believe that this is not an astoundingly long wide penis that I have that I think is perfectly shaped to do what it was designed to do and I’m happy with it whatever yeah I’ve gotten good reviews so far in life women with wanted to kill other women because they were so possessive of this thing that is to say all it wants to do is just be warm and wet and one of them that is so I have a beloved partner and you know I would kiss your boobs goodbye and tell him to be good every day knowing if she was like why I never did anything bad to anybody ever and I realized that was the pure essence of innocence is Brett’s cuz like you can never say that they ever do anything bad to never manipulated anybody they never play games with anybody they just give and give and give you know so anyway that’s another story if we could only all aspire to be as innocent as a breast but never do anything to hurt anybody ever never had to be told to be nice just what is nice you know x-ray sexual Zen state that people would have to meditate for years if they didn’t eat mushrooms to figure that out like become a breast and live in the consciousness of breast in this and just experienced pleasure and give pleasure and don’t fucking overthink it you know it as long as everybody is of legal age and sound mind and knows what they’re signing up for essentially we can work out the details but I’ve been in those moments where it’s like yes what’s making this woman lose her mind and ecstasy is 80% the emotional connection with other women that she is sharing and then I am there to be basically a prop to the beautiful. Theater of feminine understanding and that is when I understood For the First Time The futility of women trying to squeeze blood from a stone to make bullheaded dumb men who would rather be playing video games or breaking shit or glowing sit up or doing something fucking mindless and heartless for fun and just acting them and making them be a woman when they’re not a woman because they can’t explore sexual intimacy with other women because you’re afraid of the taboo of lesbianism and because it would be against the rules and whatnot so when melted down and was in a sensor Moniz were psychedelic ceremonies wear them all of these stories were melted away and it was just women in fucking ecstasy the agony and ecstasy and using my cock is a prop but also as an energetic current and a source of love and that my refinement was allow me to be in that space and I realize that it’s like it is so cumbersome to be responsible for a woman’s orgasm in a love making session why would I want all of that burden on myself it’s like I have to at my age I have to think about not coming too fast beat not losing my erection and in trying to make a sincere emotional sincere present connection with the person who I am kissing is with that is enough for me to have to do it now I’m responsible for her squirting and I like coming in the same say when I saw the leveraging of all these other women and how freely flowing the orgasms come when the openness in the connectedness is there with other women so so like I said I’m not taking a step back and now if anybody wants to come at me they’re going to have to go through that that ate a form of of grade school of learning in or black ass like that you’re going to come at me do you want to fuck me you need a black belt in loving me to get in and if you go into any Karate Dojo they’re not even said hey I want to do what you do can you hand me your black belt right now please here I’ll give you a beer can I buy you a beer and then you give me a black belt no stupid you’re so stupid Bibb so what was the quote from the movie UHF which is very a so you definitely watch UHF to understand where my sense of humor comes from but yes I’ll good good so so we’re solving this problem and creating these designer experiences and so what I realized is that the impulse for a woman to have this one-dimensional relationship with a man’s cock so that she wants to possess it so as you’re a very own the way for me to logically very very simple-minded lycee what is the how do you prevent that is to say well you will learn to get to know my cock at exactly the same time as another person and you will only have a 50/50 relationship with whatever you do you say like you would with your best friend and I had her saying in people may not like to hear me say is cuz it sounds good feed it to your best friend first feed it to your best friend first and I didn’t even think about the secondary effect of that which for me that was just that was just like I’m going to know that you’re not going to lose your mind with jealousy when you can just say here actually you can I’ll let you go first so that would be the the the tantric taboo test of transgression against yourself like that Siri you’re going to lose your mind will feel into that and start simple we’re going to dance together and you’re going to watch just that and is that make your blood boil what happens after your blood simmers down do you start to like so now it’s like whatever that point is where that demon comes out of jealousy you were going to rub the shit out of your clit until it goes and tell you what you’ve you become a demon Whisperer with your clit and me and everybody just wants to create more and add more locks to the fire and you transmute that negative emotion into a positive motion and then in the probably will be called conversion the opposite we don’t have a word for it we do not have a word except for that one which no one knows it set designer neologism but we don’t have the band singing about how good it feels to watch their wife get fucked by Adam Ant And so yeah here we come back full circle so we will be so we’re going to we’re going to have these experiences we’re going to sing about it and and so this is the this is the what the the the climax of this conversation will be in my opinion is is when I talked about how the it’s not just a theoretical Gaiden guiding principle to say oh yeah we’ll will like yeah okay you flip a coin and I have sex first with the person who wins that round and then I stopped having sex with you and hopefully it didn’t lose my wind in 5 minutes cuz I was so fucking turn on by the sexy after they all I got another $5 and it’s over for me for like they’re already like forgot every system anyway cuz they’re tearing each other inside out and everything and I’m just watching and trying to like make it come to live again and finally it will eventually but you should know I’m getting That’s The Hampsterdance the Tantra hence the sexual Jedi Knight training so that you can breathe breathe through and in have the orgasms without losing the love don’t be a 5 lb jump so hit the two feminists so I think I’m going to say okay if she’s dying to give me a blowjob then like we time it for like okay like we’re going to play your favorite song and it’s going to be about the same equal thanks to to her favorite song and you going to eat each other’s favorite songs and I’m like hold each other’s heads and massage each other and just be like holding each other from behind and Miss Priss massaging each other that they take turns but there’s still a potential in that for for jealousy to arise in forever and for it to be I mean I just thought of a way to actually literally short-circuit everything in a really beautiful elegant circuit and so here is the design and I will try to verbally explain unless they can so I love the idea of two women’s hands clasping together around my cock and massaging it gently up and down as they face each other and our eye gazing intermittently so the visual so far is is that the dear beloved goddesses or I are facing each other so actually agency kneeling I’m I am laying on my back and they both are kneeling with their literally as clothes into my armpit is possible so that I can reach Below in between their legs and butt so I can have a hand on each clit and vulva fingers is a good middle finger on the clit and to end so if I’m cuffing the vulva and able to use my longest middle finger to be stroking the each clit simultaneously in patterns you know singer sew and I’m basically playing streams is like playing guitar and make a solo I’m playing shift I have this is because the end of vocalizations or what I’m tuning for it you know so so it isn’t this beautiful instrument of a playing these two young hearts that are kissing each other and like I gazy and exactly is so I’m making sure that they’re not feeling left out in that apartment while I’m being stimulated and everybody is being stimulated sexually and everyone is feeling a part of a closed circuit that is meeting everyone’s needs and in and there’s no favoritism there’s no hierarchy the really so thin and if anything I am as the man in my back and that is what time trick Kali worshipping actual full fully pornographic and I hesitate to use that word was fully glorious erotic depictions of the circuitry of how this stuff works so if it’s if you’re not approve any 3 I mean if you’re not so sexually stunted then you would just understand that these icons are just road maps to the spiritual terrain of understanding the energetics of Shiva Shakti god goddess energy so we’re designing with that and we’re creating a maximum hydraulic energy flows in in in a way that is very egalitarian actually inhibits the growth of the ego and that sense of so-and-so I’ve experienced this in not that exact formation but that’s why I aspire to be a porn director so that I can I can work with people who are very comfortable taking Direction and are not going to lose their minds and so I actually had this conversation today they’re what makes me not a cult leader and what prevents me from ever becoming a cult leader is this one fundamental thing right but I have to study cold it is to know how not to be a quote later cuz otherwise I would just be cranking out so much Kool-Aid day Kool-Aid would have to invent a time to punch flavor you know I got to be sponsored by Kool-Aid the Kool-Aid man oh yeah it would have it I make my own Kool-Aid Man Township anyway after dark okay I wanted how they’ve not sued like I have all of the libelous memes and they feel bad for the Kool-Aid guy I didn’t fucking poisonous people man I don’t mean to be making fun of them and I really got to get serious about not making a joke out of the people who died in the massacre Crazy Eights it’s it’s it’s public domain now to make a joke to either the expression people say don’t drink the Kool-Aid it’s because people at Jonestown were by a charismatic cult leader who was it was an extremely right with it skips a generation maybe but that’s how memes get formed yes so I mean that’s how they sort of deprecated the roots and you say things that we don’t know how does the reason we’re numb it so they don’t drink the Kool-Aid means don’t consent to a groupthink. Virus that makes mass suicide be acceptable and so they poisoned the Kool-Aid punch and that’s how everyone can scented make give it to their kids and everyone is like this is fine and some people try to protest and they were silenced and some people try to run away and it was a nightmare and it was absolutely what I would I must not allow myself to become as a priest that uses sexual mind manipulation and coercive tactics to trade love and affection attention and orgasm for 4 unquestioning devotion into the point of suicide so that that’s the extreme case that that we that is a litmus test for if you were going down that slippery slope but I actually tend to want to study the mental illness of sociopath sociopathy narcissism and I would like to consider myself a benign I’m the benign narcissist I know that that is a character flaw that I am not how we going to like defeat by doing the past limitations as many times that night and I’m going to roll with it and I’m going to say yeah I will be like Howard Stern and I will be I’m going to if I’m going to be this personality I’m going to make a bonsai tree out of my own ego if I can and have other people help in the process but but things going going back to the to the cult thing and what me what gives me the authority to design this orgasmic Orchestra what why and how do you not just become a colder than soy everyone you meet is basically in that on that game board now how am I going to manipulate you to be in this in this position that I would like you to be in to fulfill my fantasy of engineering all this town truck stuff and and if I’m if I’m this is well that’s spit out the Kool-Aid don’t swallow I think what we’ll get to that for sure that’s going to be a we’re going to get to that but can’t forget that we’ll save that for the for the most triumphant moment the climax is when we’re going to use that it’s so precious now after it’s been built up so ever since a joke that’s going about 2 it’s going to explain come on your face it’s going to come on yesterday and you’re going to beg for it and so hits is it is I’ve had people beg me to come in the third eye and it was hard to resist but this is going to be almost as good as that sharing you this one liner inside joke and just a minute but to wrap up this sort of dark out thing that we were doing with the coal thing is that it how do you know how do I hedge against being the creepiest man every like people think that Barney the purple dinosaur because he and forgive me if I’m butchering the facts here but as far as I know he’s doing what I considered to be taboos for me which is charging women money to have sexual penetrative intercourse with them above all without protection and making that into a to me that’s not a scalable business model and you can ask your doctor wife but Barney I mean I get it and I get that that’s the love thing being cultivated generated so I think I don’t know whether I consider that good pressure bad press for modern Neo Tantra or what not but I’d love to have them on the podcast I’m sure it’s going to happen and I can’t say that I was a fan of the art form of Barney the purple dinosaur but but but I would love to get to the full story and also talked about the ethics and this medical the medical duty of care that comes with sexual and pinch of intercourse with anybody so anyway that’s the sad but who were talking about okay what if you were intrigued and maybe turned on by me talking about these erotic circuit boards then you also have to be somewhat red-flagged and starting to cringe and go where how old is this get arranged in what are the incentives and how do you how do you manage the Eagles and how do you who’s in charge it’s like you can’t it’s a scary thing but you wouldn’t work but that’s why when I went when I say what I realized for me the aha moment in my sexual career was that if I want to have out-of-the-box sex I have to pay lots of money for it from professionals who have trained her nervous system to do theater performance of sexuality as escorts or as Dom’s or as porn performers because they’re good sports they’re not spoil Sports about any of the stuff for the most part if they’re treated well and respected and then contracts are here too and they know what they’re getting into and hopefully they’ve matured and hopefully their brain has developed to its full capacity IE the age that it takes to actually I don’t say that to you exactly so you better know there’s a dimension of Ethics when it comes to harvesting teenagers for your for whatever Annette and I have had some of the best sex in my life as a 30 year old being fucked up fucked senseless by teenager in a row in a monogamous relationship and I will I will tell you that it’s it some it was worth the daddy issues that I had to deal with it was worth reparenting her and it was worth every bit of emotional kind of awkwardness that there wasn’t some of the an Amex because she was such a good full spirited Prime late night it was funny cuz I was like I want to settle you down and basically like I could teach your making a kid with ADHD sit in class is like no she wants to fuck wildly she wants you to perform more than you possibly ever could even at 30 and and she and she is not she doesn’t need these esoteric practices too heavy multi-orgasmic she’s fucking coming or brains out like so hard and I and I couldn’t sit her down the aisle still enough to do any of the practices that I thought were going to be so enlightening and went in the great thing is is it a fuck it like it is certain point you just say no guru there’s a song about it’s like no guru no no scripture No play just in the Dow of the thing so anyway so that’s a side note to say there is a sacred place for adult for fully mature brain develop adults to be having sex with teenagers and and I know that it can be done because I’ve done it but it also takes you can’t just treat them like a commodity please you got to you got to think about pedagogy Nikki learned from the person that you’re teaching teaches you things to like a circle so then so we’re talking about these ethics and where I wanted to just close that point about how I do my best to not be a cult leader I thought I figured it out pretty simply and correct me if I’m wrong but basically it’s it’s I dare you to to indict me for the the criminal and civil liability of misconduct for for for structuring a certain way so this is how I this is this is very simple as this is like this I said that this is a different the difference from a cult leader is that I’m a porn director I pay women to be directed and then I pay whoever I want to I will I will I will choose performers who I resonate with for whatever we would like to do together to make beautiful art and and I will compensate them and pay them to take time out of their lives to be a part of my design and to be directed by me they’re not paying me for healing for enlightenment for direction for guidance and I’m directing them and Meghan gratifying myself and taking their money in convincing mind fucking them and taking more of their money and more than money until they don’t talk to their friends because of and that’s how Colts are basically extractive from their students the colors are extracting from their devotees the difference is how many colors do you know that actually give their devotees money I will pay you oh now I’m making corned a porn director and I am more karmically correct than the fucking Guru who is fucking having people kiss his feet and take your money so who would have thought that the corn directors were the most enlightening Yogi’s to ever attempt to be divine and I have my favorites and I’m a fan of some of them I want I want to see the names but right now but that cuz I wouldn’t want to leave any out you know what I mean bless you all for paying people to direct them into your Twisted fucking fantasies and giving them that dignity like hats of their not wondering about it cuz there’s that was having a conversation today it’s like a buyer’s remorse if I say to you I’m just saying if you remember when you had to if you were old enough to know that there was a day when when when your allowance equals one CD for $15 so humorous if you never had experience this is important I think this is important teaching is important teachable moment is that is that and I don’t want to be today. Take care no man’s planning anything in them to have fun here but this is like this is this is late so here’s the funny thing though you think about I remember what it was like when I had to convince myself that amusing that a CD that fucking sucked was actually good because I paid money for it and I would not let myself suffer the indignity of having made a mistake so I was in a state of denial and delusion so so so feeling this isn’t meditation okay everybody think of something that you paid money for that you discovered was in the zoo is suboptimal and you used mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you actually liked it even though you knew deeply that you didn’t like it but it was called buyer’s remorse it was called the sunk cost fallacy of sunk cost fallacy is that because you invested something into this you have to continue beyond the point of no return because you can’t live with yourself other ways so that is this Twisted perverse placebo effect that happens when it’s like I went to the sex guru to get healed and he said for 9999 I would get here and but I but I could also upsell to the bonus extra double healing deluxe super Cosmic Crystal trademark excetera right thing and try before you buy money back guarantee accessories that you’re all of his legal he’s in fine print all the stuff but there is but that’s where it is we’re expecting to have some result that you paid money for and you will question whether or not okay did I was a hole in my heel did I pay enough money to pay more and some money and it is it distorts things and you did it it did contaminated in a way for that so I’m skeptical that I can be done right in that sense and that’s just me so what I say let’s work in the garden together my time equals your time and now we’re planting trees equals an hour of Yoni massage your prostate massage and therefore it’s a flat equal everybody has the same it’s his first come first serve you know and orgasms for work shirts that was my hand jobs for Humanity and helping a tree with two or so you’ll see it yeah it’s a white paper was written so is he ever gets faster so so that’s how I’m not going to be a cult leader is that I’m not going to charge people money to be Pawns in my game of or are you going to be players in my Game of Thrones Township Township twister you will get paid handsomely to be in my theater my game of Township twister and you can quit you can get any time you know that’s that’s that’s the thing to you won’t be like oh if I walk away now you know that then where I’m not like what I paid for I’m I’m already invested so much forever so so many different dynamics of of incentivization happening in this thing is so anyway that that was I think it is important to lay that out and and this is probably the first time I’ve articulated it on the podcast but I just was having this conversation today with this answer the CD metaphor thing where it’s like you know it did that it’s it’s a problem that way so so that’s I will not be extracting money from people in that in that way I’d rather pay them to be in my in my Productions and feel better about it that way so getting back to the fun stuff in the production itself so imagining that that would be the way from now on where I’m like if you want to that’s basically what I just described about that circuit of three people as a minimum to starting point is like that is the that is first base now you know that’s first base because getting into the circuitry of actual intercourse that’s where it required that’s where we get into the medical the medical responsibilities aspects and we get into more of the karmic sharing we’re really swapping scum he’s on an astral level at that point more so than if it’s an outercourse thing and you can’t go back once you know I don’t want to sound like a prepaid only sound like a six- future but but they were right about this mean you’re not wrong about everything they’ve had no sex for anybody ever. Is not the solution to people having sexually transmitted demons running rampant all over the place and it’s about making them your friends and making them work for you not against you and making them expose themselves properly and in you know where it’s not a pure realm we are not going to be perfectly protected in fear we can strive for that and we can use Kundalini and Prana and mantras and all of our medicines in purgatives and things to create a cleaner vessel to make more harmonious more resonance more signal-to-noise ratio and that is what to me this is all about and why we are missing out so badly to not be like I see this if God is wanted you got it for not created to nipples I can’t suck both nipples at the same time I tried some women I can do it on I’ve done it and you can do it some women is possible but for the most part so what does that mean what are you do do you limit God or do you just find someone else to be on the left or right side of you you know what is the big deal so when I think about this math equation how many erotic how many out of the box meaning not really the selective like subjective nuanced little erogenous zones that people get overtime in our lives but the out-of-the-box everybody is wired this way count how many erogenous zones you have and how what is the minimum number of mouse penis and genitals or fingers are human appendages required to simultaneously stimulate all those places it’s more than one person I can tell you that much you know so I just want us to start there and be creative in 2N to learn how to understand that we’re missing out and we should be wanting to gamify maximizing human potential for orgasmic pleasure because that is exorcism orgasm equals exorcism in some cultures who are Les Les Mis Sara Lee poetic about the floury discourse of symbols about sex life like a Latin American Shaman is said about her sexuality in the end in her how she explained why monogamous marriage was not really a thing in a culture that permitted extramarital sex and it was that in her mind and I am not going to say her name to cool her but I will say to paraphrase the essence of this wisdom is that to her mind it was just like an orgasm is like taking out the trash and that is not that’s not to say that it is mundane or a chore it is that it is a responsibility of hygiene in your household of your body Temple you need to have orgasms they need to be fulfilling need to get the job done and that is the exorcism aspect of it so the howling screeching all of these things that are considered that witches were burned forming figli sounds that those are the sounds of actual Holiness the set of holy the sound of Holiness is a woman’s orgasm and so let’s make those come more abundantly and let’s utilize map map the erogenous zones out of the box and then map the additional ones that are my favorite song and when you talk to me like this and this certain place I’m in the back of my head there whatever and then everyone has their own map so we can learn each other’s maps and if you don’t know your own map then you can ask people to help you there’s people who would love to lick and kiss and touch you and head to toe to find and explore you and and from a breasted state of consciousness D nice and yes I like to will you bring out the best in me that’s all I think that’s all you guys add that I can’t top that is the way to end so then really that was we didn’t even know that we put the icing on the motherfuking cake by saying you bring out the Best in Me so there was a documentary about at the peak of my desire to become a a rock star in the the crust Punk metal genre grindcore all that fun stuff I was studying that I wanted to understand and clock the music industry so I was watching every documentary I could find understanding music marketing and all the stuff and then I found this great documentary about about Jimi Hendrix and and I believe it was his fiance at a time who later became his wife if I remember correctly and she was talking about the time where he was building momentum and getting lots of gigs but still underground and she said something that stuck with me forever and if this moment which is it basically the hidden tension was used turn Express yeah we we all knew he was going to get sign or we all knew that you was going to take off he was going to blow up and so she said it was just about if someone puts put the icing on the motherfuking cake you know and I know and I felt that we we’re ready for that and we did some we had some we had some ice and get put on a motherfuking cake we did you get you always want more but I look back and I don’t think we could handle more so we got what we got and now I’m on a different I have a different cake I have a different cake mix and I don’t know if it’s that time I don’t know if it’s time to put the icing on the cake or not yeah I don’t know I mean the cake it’s getting cold she heard it mean if you’d if anyone has icing out there can it please be stevia-sweetened go Steven Johnson I don’t know how to hack them will work on that today I know it’s actually what I heard is that it’s a weird additive that they used to cut it because it’s so super sweet that you would basically died of sweetness if you didn’t like the step on it with some other things so I think that’s why I love growing Stevia and having a leaf to munch on and put in the tea because then you know is nothing else being put into it and it’s just as powerful you don’t really need to if you had the the live leaves one leaf enough will be enough to knock your head off for an hour so yeah I know on that snow yeah we’re going to put this devious fresh leave puree motherfuking icing on the cake I will put the icing on my own motherfuking cake that reminds me in 1 minute I just when I thought we couldn’t go out with a bigger bang this is going to be at because there was a a ritual ceremonial I called we called apart emoni where was the Psychedelic birthday party and we smeared cake all over each other and had to basically devour for the birthday gal of her own cake and it was just nipples and asses and I wanted to be in after from there I was my breasts Elsa. Playing for sure that brother and brother best me for sure but that when I got to put the icing on cake my damn self so don’t let anyone fucking tell you that you’re not none of me if you feel like it I mean I think we’re done I just can’t I’m going to fucking drop my phone right now when I might drop my phone on the couch citizen of the count but oh shit it’s next level add icy Cipher geise that’s going to have some cake with that icing okay thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and if you want a podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email been at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Decoding Tantric Buddhist Sacred Dance with Devika the Techy Tantrika TPP201

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In this episode I’m joined again by Devika the Techy Tantrika, this time for an epic exploration of the theology, philosophy, history, and practical applications of sacred dance from a Tantric Buddhist perspective. We shared a beautiful experience together during a sacred dance training retreat in Portland, OR several years ago and I’d been wanting to do a recap with her on her experience. She has a deep and rich background in sacred dance,  tantric buddhism, and yogini mysticism and it’s a treasure to hear her elaborate on the teachings we received while at the Dance Mandal temple. It was a life changing experience which led to my discovery of Vajra yoginis, and Khroda Kali in particular who I resonate with. My track Wrathful Dakini is a devotional hymn which was based on my revelatory experiences surrounding this chapter of my life.

We compare notes from the dance training retreat and comment on the relevance of traditional teachers and classical studies in tantra and all spiritual paths.

We also discuss the modern intersection of sexiness, sex witches, social media, and her research project: https://witchactivism.carrd.co/.

About Devika:

Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.

You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika

Follow her Instagram at:
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You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 2 0 1 game join Again by devika the country Qatar and I wouldn’t have done a couple episodes so far in the past one all about open-source sexuality another one all about keeps Rising sex work policy and so we have been talking a lot about motive the modern synthesis and assimilation of classical time show with Neo Tantra and check and what not. It’s just fun and exciting intersection is just been crazy to go back and listen to those shows this time we’re going to get into a really fine or kind of personalized description of somewhat Memoirs where we first met in person at the at the dance Mondo Maple Leaves tantric Buddhist sacred Dance Training temple in syrtis I’m very authentic true to form goddess Temple that really for me was profound in many ways mostly in that it was a revelation for me to see that there is living breathing devotional goddess Temple Buddhism where there’s more than just the multiple genders of DVDs are our honored and respected and worship and field practice where you might not you might not be exposed to that otherwise so I’m extremely grateful for did you get for inviting me to that to this weekend Dance Training Retreat which was kind of like my my Karate Kid training with the master in and stealing KY Lake you know maybe I don’t think I need my black belt but I probably probably got at least one built you know up some starting a house from scratch but along the way of me making a complete ass of myself as the only male would be initiated you know I will see you in background so they can just like this to water from his Jimmy awkward but I survived and I learned a lot and not only in the dance but also in these these meditation Temple lecture philosophy lectures that were given and also we had free reign of this one of the most explicit libraries of collections of books devoted to John Travolta times and so there’s some gems that that I discovered there but you know don’t take my word for it I love to just take this opportunity to have if you can her perspective on that experience in some gaps in my understanding and knowledge because to bring this into the ultimate context it is that that experience led to me producing a track called Rascal that King and I’ll get into that at some point later but basically a Revelations that I’ve had what I felt to be direct Union direct communication with and since then really this track which is a devotional him that uses it and in vocational Mantra as the sort of part of it every time I sing that and with all my heart than she appears and I see her the way that she is you know in a and it in the way that she is symbolically to pick it in the in the art form the classical art form of what’s called who is called crota Kali who is one of the disorder than a police terkini kind of archetypes which Gerald got his students like one of those I’m building my collection of having experiences and then having a toy on my wall I’ll make a track and that track will be my sort of them my Memoir or my Elemento this is way more this is a huge opportunity for me to kind of have you bringing your perspective on on that that experience that we shared there and also bring in some of your more highly developed awareness of the permutations of Buddhism and Tantra and also yeah they just tell us that be great to hear about what brought you to the discovery of that Temple because obviously the story goes back as far as to where you were you know enchanted with their work so that was enough for me. Thank you so much been yes cuz he mentioned I’m devika the ticket on sweetie, I’m so glad that you made this our topic today been just because that’s when those of the extremely unique temple in Portland Oregon and try to swallow who is the dance teacher the primary dance teacher there was our teacher that weekend and he’s been training and Talia make sure you tell sorry since he was a young child so that was in his his lineage for a long time and for me I’ve always been play training quite a bit and vajrayana Buddhist lineages cuz I had to start at my own silent meditation practice I think about on 2007/2008 but Tibetan lineage of always been significant to me because anybody who studies Buddhist studies or you know I’m has a pretty good understanding of a variety of different Buddhist lineage has Bill noticed that a lot of the deities in tibetan and Nepalese certain Nibbley’s lineages don’t really necessarily have presidents are really significant Presence at all in other lineages so you know like the dakinis are seeing a lot you see if I join your guinea is a dominant The Keeney there’s also no preserved and venerated in the in the stands lineage you and I went to training and just like with any veneration or worship of these dakinis is usually requires a lot of Advanced Techniques a lot of persistent training because the dakinis are definitely I always think of them as more intermediary or you know you’d rather just because they’re not really have to be really specific with how you worship and worship them because they can be kind of tricksters in certain ways but they can also also need a lot more respect I think like there’s a lot of benevolent like happy DD’s and then you kind of work up to bother you again other Tiki knees and the kids are wisdom Bears they’re not the really I don’t know if you could say that a surly you know putting some situations where they have to really be as forgiving perhaps they expect I think a lot of a lot of practice in a lot of patients in a lot of determination from those who are who are and worship up they are very much like Kali from the Hindu Hindu spiritual lineage has just because you have to have a certain amount of practice with them you have to have a certain amount of respect them are they able to teach you a lot but if you are not open to learning those lessons you will not get them and sometimes you know like do your lessons by, in ways that look for a coke bad or negative in your life but a trained practitioner or train student even would have the tools to help them kind of navigate those lessons and not to say that the lesson still won’t be hard it’s just that you need to have a certain amount of prerequisite I guess in a way that certain amount of information in order to work with those DVDs in order to really get not just what would be helpful to you both would have also be helpful in respect to them and reminds me of an of what you were saying earlier about you know once a DVD shows up to you if I tell you something that of great assistance you obviously not understand that it’s reciprocal and you get back to that TD and your veneration and respected them so these DVDs are not like practice DVDs are like this introductory DD’s they need they definitely need a certain level of practice and respect and information on behalf of the students are also just not going to get as much out of it either I guess I’ve heard of so many people just want to jump right to DD’s like this in various lineages and a lot of people will caution them and say that you really need to understand the foundational aspects of the practice you’re looking at before you work with them but it really comes down to what people are after like they’re looking for quick fixes or even like something like power or you know something just really just deals mostly with our Earthly realm they’re not going to the store they get what they want or they might get what they want for the beginning but there’s always a price to pay like and you can’t have you know you can’t have an action without a reaction if you’re not setting up the foundation of something properly you’re not setting it up on a you know they’re setting up his Queen on the shaky Foundation at that point and things don’t go too well when you build them on a shaky foundation so I would definitely you know suggest anybody who does want to learn sacred dance forms to look for a proper New Groove for that and Venture for us just make sure they’re taking the proper steps for me I’ve always because of my love for Tibetan Buddhist lineages I really loved my experience at that spent all my hope to go back you know again in the future you know for something similar to what you and I had conferred then I don’t live on the west coast anymore unfortunately but I’m sure I’ll make it back there again it was a beautiful time. Really they just they found such an amazing job with that that’s him pulling the practices that they adhere to their arms it’s certainly is unique and lovely did yeah so thank you for giving that discourse on this parallel and treachery really had no approaching these purses with the wrong attitude or without due diligence and I think my modern check a metaphor that comes to mind is actually I’ve been thinking about this ready contacts but this is this is really right now which is it there’s I think people who approached spirituality as from The New Age kind of Neo perspective of not not really I say beating her asparagus before they eat their ice cream like they want they want to jump right to everything that’s possible and skip over the shadow work but the the more traditional approach would beat you really confront you or your Shadow true the help of the duties that are going to we’re going to help you do that and you know that that is really up for what I’m doing with in my Modern Life sandwich lot of people are just like me they need to do to audit your security and to do penetration testing and to hire hackers to actually try to break into your systems to see what your vulnerabilities are so that you can fix them before real shit hits the fan win some you know and they don’t give you the full report they actually just take everything take your intellectual ransomware your your machines and Edward have a persistent intrusion into your network that you don’t know about until years later when everything that you held dear and sacred was this compromise so that’s that’s how I feel like that if you if you’re afraid of that you’re setting yourself up for ultimate disaster in the future if you’re not willing to approach that Duty with respect you know of those duties you have the potential to print like really sucking hand your ass to you you’re not going to call the spiritual bug bounty system I have another another pun play on words to add to that but but I’ll let you finish okay well yeah it’s it’s from that shamanic perspective of some sort of delousing your soul by removing parasites and I feel like a bug Bounty is even more apps because they would be removing those pests from your soul and all that her that you’re unaware of that are causing you to you know make mistakes in your karmic development so yeah so with that said do you want to talk about now just kind of give people the the play-by-play of we arrive there and do you want to give you a recollection of the the kind of syllabus and of course outline and what what what I experienced was there and what you’re you’re sure I’m just trying to think of it wasn’t that a time ago not going to lie I was a bit of time guys from perfect feeling very magical and just really appreciating it cuz it’s you know what the time I was a fusion belly dancer and I still love dance it’s just you know I had suffered a back injury sometime much time after but I’m just grateful that I at least had that experience the Savannah what that’s meant I’ll be for all that zinnias happens later but you know it is what it is but in terms of doing that Workshop they were so gracious you know they gave us a really great we know we’re right out and see a step-by-step you know the monster has instructions I still have I still loved my portfolio that they gave me like you know I still had a lot and I just I’ve always been very enthusiastic about using the body and worship with dance in expressions of arch just because I always felt like art is about Creative Energy the sacral chakra is about sexual energy and create an anonymous right they are one of the savings people tend to forget that or not really put that together so I always am very enthusiastic about what time you know really creative positive ways of using the body and worship and the style of dance really loud. So do you still have your do you still have your folder from there I do somewhere and I started to look for it but I did I really want to find it because I want to I wanted to be able to I mean I don’t know if you have it handy or if not then we can just going to go from memory but now it rain in front of me but I mean I guess I’ll be glad to do some scanning later so that you can have copy call me buried in somewhere but I really appreciated about that weekend was that possible did start looking into the voucher Eugenie dance ceremony with all so what was amazing as he took us through you know the Preparatory dance which is about paying homage to the DD’s you know and it within the Buddhist contacts before you begin your dance and that he taught us the hand with rose that go with the dances as well which are so important in like a lot of like a lot of Asian dance styles likes you a lot of traditional dance styles this dance tells a story it’s not just the person embodying the DAT in human form sort of so to speak but also if you listen to that at least you know if you don’t understand them on to us but you look at the translations and if you look at what each moves from means and what each motion means it’s all telling a story so that’s beautiful to me I just it was very you know incredible and the fact that we got to look at the photo you can anyone know that’s a lot to me because I was a big part of also why I went there and seen it on YouTube and I understood the even though I was very interested in that dance I knew that we met your most likely not go there necessarily because that is an advanced dance for all the reasons I had previously mentioned about working with dakinis events duties of your guinea but it was really amazing that we actually got to you know try that out and really talk to those who have performed that dance that weekend was so short to me like I just wish you could have stayed there so much longer is really amazing but yeah I’d like the fact that I let me remind you I grew up with folk dances like her up just you know what an absolute Fascination for it so learning about a dance style that does this in worship and in respect of the staties that’s not easy to find that mean you do find it in Hindu Traditions there are so disloyal to do something similar but especially what we were learning that’s $1 you can’t find many teachers who teach that there’s also not very many dance styles like. I’ve heard of another one but I’ve never seen anybody teach it here at least or of the universe within within Canada or the United States so I mean there might be but I haven’t come across up and you need answers for those are any dance teachers for lineage but yeah so I would say those were the Superman highlights eat you recall anything else that really stuck out to you yeah in a few things to do very memorable and then all in complementary to to your thoughts and perspectives on this because she hasn’t much I guess I certainly Richard background in Premiere was pretty much all encountering it for the first time and so I really I think the way to the kind of transmit the experience to others at least verbally and I know you can go on YouTube and and pretty much the same the same dance that we learned I know they have at least one video that’s at least it’s pretty much like that specific sequence of movements and then we also had to learn to sing the parts that weren’t we at we were we were trained to not just learn actual poses and the sequence of the positions moving along the dance floor but actually singing the appropriate the Mantra portion of it at being every every every time we transition to another movement we’re actually seeing saying the devotional sort of launcher him about what that position really is representing and and I got think of it it’s like a 3-D lives motion to wear if you’re used to approach you are you just sitting there making I mean I don’t suggest your secondary and you’re making offerings and you’re doing gestures in your doing Luger’s but you’re just so this is like imagine being this coming good multidimensionality of the and the offering aspect of it of that the energy that you’re pouring into the the ritual that being the just night and day in terms of the difference between the seated meditative offering to Pooja and I’m spinning around and holding your arms up and just being as graceful as you could ever imagine everybody being and also that it was just beautiful so maybe if you could you know from just some of the Physicians remember I remember there was like a little drama and the big drum and offering incense and they were all basically kind of like I feel like a mime you know remind me out these emotional offerings and so from that experience well I knew I hadn’t said this earlier but I was going to say I know you said that you felt like you know a fish out of water I think it’s what you said earlier you know it wasn’t really being a dude they’re just being a guy and then he was a good teacher is a guy but it’s so cool though this type of worship or any worship I always go back to looking at who are you doing as for right it’s all the times you doing is to please a deity or you know to show appreciation respecting the really that’s all that’s asked you know of you write like to show up and to do it like when I first learned silent meditation for example my teacher would always say it never gets easier right like there’s there will always be a time where it becomes difficult but the what’s being asked to use to show off that’s the devotional part right that’s the part where even if you’re learning to do something for the first time that’s still so pivotal because you’re still doing that with that intention of federation respect and worship that’s really that really is all it’s being asked of you know set it right and I’m sure it influenced also how you’ve continued to worship right and it’s become a part of your experience in various ways they honestly that’s all often lets its really often people really in people don’t necessarily here that often or that’s not something that comes up I mean we are so used to I think it’s also speak about this from growing up you know like a lot of people in various religions they are asked to do so much but might be things that they’re not willing to do necessarily like maybe you know ask to Worship in a certain way like I mean don’t get me wrong like obviously poo just have to place a certain religions and their needed by people who really need them but I always wondered what why aren’t we teaching people these these artistic forms of worship to like I remember reading in the Hindu Pantheon there was 52 artistic expressions or skills that are considered sacred and her people to maintain and a lot of those were artistic like a lot of them were of a poetry and about dance and artistic expression and I think you know technically speaking and I’m seeing a lot of this and dance movements across the world the idea that in order to move into express yourself through your body and whatever way that you can through your body enter your mind isn’t itself but I can’t worship so I mean whether or not let’s say somebody continues with a particular sacred lineage and learn to do that dance Tyler whether they go through life and you know it’s a inspiration from these lineages but then set off and kind of do something that comes to them naturally it’s all relative it’s all important right so you know so so as I talked about this you know for example sorry I missed you may not be for a surly everybody write a lot of people might not let’s say how the Buddhist context behind them or might it might not resonate with them but there could be something else right there can always be something else for those people instead I think that’s the interesting thing about tantric practice right like there’s so many lineages making really look towards and I think I still stand behind the concept but I think there are tajuk lineages and every religion It’s just sometimes they don’t make it to the mainstream literature of those religions so you know I think when people do enough taking and hold their beliefs strong things will come to that you know like it there’s a meeting halfway that sense to happen during the person needs to keep the the principles in the pillars of their belief system close to their heart and you know I threw those pillars and I do believe that as a go long information will come to that message will come to the right forms of practice for them come to them you know it’s it’s that’s why I always say to trust your instincts like 50 people I always tell them it’s very important to learn how to trust yourself and learn from yourself and learn with your intuition and stinks look like because that’s how all of the Divine speaks to you right mind you and protist lineages the Divine in the profane are the same thing and that’s the way I see you too so I think when people create that’s Schism that also kind of friends that I don’t put them until amount of conflict because once you start looking at everything a sacred I think that’s a huge part of town tourism and it can be very hard to keep thought police in mind but I think a good teacher too and you know good foundational set of training really help since unfortunately sometime and take a people you know who emailed me and they’re like well I can’t find a teacher in my area or you know where do I learn this way this without all that from you know lineages explains that or practices AT&T because I don’t know anybody around me that says says and that’s a big part of why I decided to do online training for people like that’s why I have my own coaching program but at the same time I also understand where they’re coming from and sometimes it’s not going to come right away you just got to keep doing what you can from your end and eventually you never know what’s going to happen right but because that’s what I was saying earlier patience is a huge thing like people want results of people want answers now but that’s not always the way things are going to go that’s not always waiting for intended to go so patients in the South can be quite the lesson with your original but I know you were talking about the moon and the aspect of the mechanics and curious if you remember any of it cuz there’s a few movements that I had that all all old mansion after after you kind of give a natural fit for you or anything that you felt like you had it with mantras in motion as you’ve mentioned earlier and Irene the ones that stuck out to me or kind of similar to the ones you had mentioned earlier about like the instruments for example the certain Mutual represented let’s say things about those titi’s hold so I just so they want to say if they’re always tools but they’re like certain symbolic objects that BT’s are known to hold and we did do address to represent those as well right call really amazing and I think with a lot of these sacred lineages you are going to get a lot of enactment of you know sacred objects even animals sometimes are adornments of that signify the DD that you’re that you’re talking about is that you’re looking at not just the costuming to fix that but like I think the big thing is for me at least when I see these dance styles I think of the fact that even if that person was not wearing Me labra costume you could still tell from what they’re Universal symbolism that they’re gesturing and that they’re doing through their dads you can tell who it is at their embodying at the time I think I’m a big part of why those hundreds Rose and certain motions you know kind of really show that like for example one really cares about you use uni dance she does a lot of circular motioning to kind of signify the traveling to the sky and to the universe which is absolutely beautiful but there’s thought type of movement that was very particular and specific to that Dede because she’s a Sky Dancer right so yeah they’re really thought out and really carefully put together and not just even composed but performs and that’s why it takes so many years to learn these Stan Stylez I mean that’s also why you’d want to teach her like prajwal for example who been doing has been doing this since he was a child so yeah it is absolutely beautiful and very rare and amazing when you come across these things if you know whether the person who has been studying since they were a child or has dedicated a lot of their life to studying it it’s all amazing to see when you do get in to see the answer to that’s given their whole body to the dance it’s not just emotions cuz you see that sometimes but you don’t doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s wrong or anything but I know I personally and everything to is when people are in that stage it doesn’t mean to always be on that stage at some point I think a dancer does give all their body into it if they really stay with us you know but yeah but it’s so nice to see it when you do see that person fully embodying and fully giving themselves into it because they are they are professional they know how to do that and I know how to get out of it to write it’s like it’s like magic to me appointment I was safe for me what what was most profound about the specific movements was when he introduced the wrathful deity respective dancing in he did some demonstrations of some stuff that we didn’t actually we’re actually taught but he basically did some more you know in some of his lectures she would just break out into the accompanying dance to go along with the lecture and what not Inn in one of the things you know he was doing was acting out the wrathful basically acting out but being invoking the possession trance state of of the wrathful deity or raffle. and that so that aspect plus the aspect of something that we did learn specifically in in the dance in a very subtle form but a very elegant and subtle but very telling kind of corn was this notion of stomping and you see this in the artwork with his notion of stomping on the demons to basically Crush but with wood gray sexy you’re not you’re invoking the power of the wrathful deities and to me that is the the psychotherapeutic aspect in the the really applied sort of shamanistic aspect of it yes we’re to put in simple terms are too kind of hopefully not not butcher hit by put in my own words it’s just that you know where we’re almost like children in the sandbox of human bodies and higher level of development and what we can actually obtain him in one lifetime for most people is pretty pretty remedial relative to the grandiosity of these deities that probably live a lot longer than we do maybe have been around a lot longer and have a lot more mobility throughout the dimensions and are just wiser creatures and their kind of entertained by us and our our Folly and we would do well to choose where do I track them to our sacred spaces so that they can help us to with our issues and not only help us feel good and have health and you know abundance of things we pray for but also that they have us to have Liberation from our own foolishness and Karma is insulated things that are beyond our control and obviously all of the very nuanced forces of evil and so these are some of the few Living Traditions in the world where there’s a sun broken Pagan shamanic power that comes from your new worshiping these duties so that you could have bacon come in and really rescue you like you’re a prisoner of war Behind Enemy Lines you know I’m in that tactical perspective was what turn me on the most was this notion of like yeah you can do is dance and you’re you were basically borrowing or asking for the power to do this astral combat sort of work and so love to hear what you would say about the exact number is Dancing with the holding the hips in a certain angle and this beautiful images of the blessings were stepping backward and stopping by The Chieftains and then knowing that you can access the Rascal that would that would make you know bad guys you know one or Retreat I think if they sell you do then you’re doing that in a dark alley and they wanted to have they had their way with you or take your money or something and then you could just like bust out into this wrathful deity dance you know that they probably would will be yeah I’ll be there cue to exit stage left now the funny thing usually has a few different like you know associations with it and I mean it’s so cathartic first of all did you feel like did you feel like it was cathartic when you yeah it’s beautiful because it really reconnect you to the earth into the ground and I mean as we’re looking at this to think it’s important to realize and Buddhist lineages demons are an evil are representative of ignorance right so that goes back to was Buddhism that there’s no Duality everything is one and the idea what these DD’s if they’ve stuck around a lot of times because they’re very compassionate and they want to help people overcome ignorance so that bacon understand the true Unity of everything so when we think of D you know I think of demons and evil that’s her thing they’re all aspects of the illusion of the samsara that we exist in this world is called samsara and in Buddhism and as we’re doing these things we’re dispelling ignorance if you actually look at the story of Siddhartha the first grew at the first of the sorry it was a guru actually how you know in the way his final like in his final test he had demons coming at him it was just like really torturous listen to Star comfortable and he was sitting under the Bodhi Tree trying to just meditate what eventually be reached Enlightenment after all these tests in the past really where about Stevenson these distractions so it’s it’s interesting to me because the demons correlate with you know our obvious concerns about horrible things happening so like you no ill health poverty and disease famine everything right and this is why it takes so long to do these practices until really dedicate ourselves to these teachings because firm understandably so for many of us as humans we understand that these things are painful and we don’t want paying we want to avoid paying obviously nobody wants to hear wake up tomorrow usually and be like oh well I just want to be in pain all day you know and the only the only thing I find in Buddhism is that it acknowledges this pain and tries to help people with understanding a different way of living with it are experiencing the things in this world to like part of the wisdom of Buddhism the stock concept of yes there is pain but there is also have two ending up suffering while on this Earth while experiencing this pain so I have full appreciation for Buddhist teachers practitioners you know and everyone else between who is able to see past the illusions that we experience the moment-to-moment basis of pain and suffering and all of that and I think when we see that foot stomping and we see that sort of you know the spelling of evil I always look at it and remember remind myself as a big part of that is we are asking for the removal of the veil of ignorance and illusion we’re trying to understand how to live with the things that happen in our lives like apparently even like the Buddha after he preached Enlightenment I’ve heard and that one lineage that he had a really bad back problems still so you would never immune to like even physical suffering and stuff but he knew how to overcome it in his mind like yours and it is being so this really Buddhism when it comes down to it it’s all about perception and so how we’re living in reminds me of something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately which is how imprisonment happens within our own minds and even when we’re giving horrible circumstances Buddhism is really teach us about how to overcome the Carmine’s like there’s no guarantee that anyting long has really changed in our physical world right we we have what we have not stopped at type thing and wheel you can continue to strive to overcome those things of course but it starts with the mind and the mentality and how we perceive what we are given so I always think about these things because when we go to learn any sacred dance is always important of course as I mentioned before to understand the foundational tools prayers mantras and these kids move drugs principle Solutions you know all of these things the Theology of these practices before we go in because you don’t like what side of meditation like all of these practices I think they’re mostly beneficial to people when they understand the foundations that they came from but even just sometimes I think understanding it is one part of it but I think practicing these things before doing it is also helpful because something could the cool from the outside your cards right but I think when we get the taste of something that we like the safer for you and myself like we love this and style it can Inspire us to continue to learn about these practices and these principles and I think for anybody who is interested in anything like this or a meditation or any practice it’s good to know themselves through these practices that I can pay also definitely need to work on it not just from the dance practice or from the meditation practice they need to understand the whole kit and caboodle you know they need to really find a teacher who can teach them the principles in the foundation’s to go with these things because learning the axum self that doesn’t do the practice justice so I mentioned only because so you’re going to get a lot of people who might you know find the semi-finals practice interesting and just like people come to us with interest about tantrism but they have to understand that they’re their studies don’t start and stop at the process themselves they have to go and learn the whole thing like they really do I don’t think it’s enough just to let stay with the Kamasutra like you can’t just learn the sex positions for example and just ignore the fact that there’s a whole ton of writing in there and principles that I personally don’t agree with but let me remind you the Kama Sutra isn’t really a tantric Doctrine to be honest lot of people don’t know but you know like I think anybody who’s going to dedicate themselves to these things really need to do themselves a good service of just you know learning all of it so I’m glad you’re doing this podcast you know we’re both doing this because I think I was looking at all of these positions and we’ll talk about the monster has I hope it inspires people to look more into these lineage is especially like the vajrayana Buddhist lineages but that the stats all came from right and that this dance Auburn resents don’t know more social Moore Public kind of expression of love so much more in her work so we could see the the sort of a I mean it’s almost like the way people joke about how I made it in North America there is this tendency for white New Age speakers european-american European secrets to they want to go and they want to get their Indian name and they want to get the play one that hold the pipe and they they want to have all these very conspicuous consumption kind of trinkets that that show off their affiliation and may or may not really be based on the deepest most sincere interest in her work as soon as you’re speaking about this I think about how you know I I I casually made a reference to karate kid earlier about looking at the Karate Kid archetype of basically looking at how westerners it stored traditional practices in general and so the other the other aspect if I was the Cobra Kai School you had like basically the corrupted and ego-based and and aggressive rather than defensive Distortion that was the result of the US military Sergeant or whoever the guy Kris being like a a Vietnam War kind of super else you took the his spin on on Karate and then you get this hyper masculine toxic mask on aggressive abusive patriarchal system and I feel like there is a people who have people have horror stories of training with male just say it’s mostly you know male who were going to actually be using black magic to mine front and brainwash people and take their money and build Empires on abuse and but they will still be teaching you beautiful positions and beautiful words everything will feel and look very beautiful and he helps but you could be being totally totally scam do you know so that’s part of what I think what you’re saying is I think you did the good research and you you would position me to have that experience with cars wall and you know the teacher who is to me like the most beautiful one of the most beautiful men embodiment of the development of this is the this is the extreme potential of the development of a man’s feminine aspect and you don’t have to be you will appreciate it even if your not gay and that I think it’s like I want more I want I would love them he said also about the feel like they’re in the ancient you would be as a man very it wouldn’t be a pretty story of to be emasculated it would be a gift and you will be seeing it is so complimentary and actually help you to have that contrast but have that balance so so yeah very instructive in general but that’s close to wrapping up in something I want to highlight yeah but when I’m at one of the lecturers at Fresh wall gave the two it was a lot of really potent teachings and one of the things that stood out to me the most it was most kind of maybe the quintessential teaching of of the whole weekend and the quintessence of the path it seemed like he was using the words mudra and use the word mudra and it’s in a contest at her before that made sense if I move a posture of your you know could be your just your hands or could be your hands and or parts of the body in concert but basically you’re holding a position that is indicating a certain alignment and a certain attitude really in so that if you extrapolate that to you or your whole lifestyle and your spiritual path he said there was that you can live basically by these two options in life either the karmamudra or the German Luger and the any put it very elegantly saying that you know if you see you Wednesday in the karmamudra which is basically scratching your head at while your life is constantly throwing things are going wrong for you and we should be there just kind of piling things under the basically living and just like shoving things under the rug and not not doing the work to purify your actions in any thoughts and deeds you know what not but where is but he would say Obviously most people in a less conscious state or are just regurgitating there cameras in the cycle but then the the the higher Road or the narrow road to the alternative is to live in what he called that was the simplest I’ve ever heard I mean what the thing is that we will she’s like do things that make other people smile you know what I mean anyway do that that’s up for Street much should golden miles did I produce today up or down on the charts you know my going to meet you like up the game tomorrow with getting more smells out there and so I just want to let that be my my last homage from this podcast to what I what I try to do partial out there man I’m done and I’m doing it with her before we wrap up to I just wanted to quickly mention as well I’m bringing such a good point about gender because a beautiful thing about casualties in this is he represents a perfect non-duality in terms of gender fluidity right he is obviously been gifted disability through his lineage has to represent male and female TTS right and he does it so eloquently and so perfectly and it reminds me of these gender divisions that we’ve seen is very much within North American and Western European constructs right the way gender is performed and represented across cultures aren’t necessarily but we’re used to seeing right and I think when we see something as beautiful as what we see and in this dance lineages and within Buddhism actually shows up quite often in a lot of Eastern theology in a spiritual Traditions it’s a concept that help me cuz that’s within us all qualities of any gender and non-gender the we can think of and I do hope that we see more of a returning that in our side I kind of feel like we’re starting to see this and what kind of looking towards shamanic lineages and I think of a lot of Tibetan lineages of thought because they do have shamanic a shamanic Origins which is why a lot of Tibetan in Nepalese protist lineages look a bit different than let’s say Chinese Korean and Japanese go to sleep just so it’s very beautiful to see this understanding in a compass and respect of all types of energy whether we are going to look at them has male female or nonbinary don’t by now it’s quite beautiful too beautiful return to that yes awesome of that thank you for that I’m sorry I’m so do you have any others actually yeah it’d be nice to just get a bit of an update from you if you want to close out the section on desk that’s why I just have to get an update from you on what’s been happening what’s on your mind what are you looking forward to what are you preparing for the future but people message me because they wants like I can still and I appreciate that so much and well the thing is I don’t know if I told you this I certified and Yoni steaming right and I was on the directory for steamy chick I wholeheartedly recommend just temporarily take me off because I’m so busy right now in my studies I don’t have time right now unfortunately the couch as much as I feel like that’s what she is part of my calling like I’m always torn between digital activism and my calling as a Tums Rica and I never want to not skip my time low supposed because I don’t have the time and energy right now but you know in about it’s a year-and-a-half I hope to really go back to holistic healing go back to holistic sexual education and you know really go back to me because a big part of that for me is understanding sexual freedoms online which has been so constricted lately in the last couple years and I think one of the worst times for online sexual expression under the Trump Administration I will go too much of that I think you know our previous previous podcast definitely talk more about that but anyways long story short of it I was saying about a year-and-a-half I will go back into training and teaching people and I will very much consider doing like one hour coaching session cuz I was really offering. so much before but I know people as you have one on questions of that sort of thing so I think it was just you know be helpful that way the only reason I didn’t offer it so much before was because as much as I am intuitive coach and counselor in that sense of spiritual counselor I also feel like a lot of the times you can give people information but if they’re not consistently working. Just like we’re time on this podcast they’re not doing a deep dive. Information is initially I was going to help them that takes a quite a long time to alter habits and to really reflect on one’s mindset NCL thinking process so I was offering will sleep just three months before but I think I also have to acknowledge this fast-paced world we live in an offer something more within intuitive counseling but definitely differentiate between my coaching and that’s the type of Lionel advice-giving just because to be there at the same they’re both helpful in their own ways but I really do appreciate when I get to work with people on a long-term basis but yeah I think offering advice and help is also really good too and has its place is so we’ll see what happens in a year and a half from now but I look forward to serving our other people and Humanity in that realm of things again soon you know I miss it so that’s pretty much what I’m doing and I know I’m just I am grateful for my studies because I think it will always help me become a better size of think of it as a civil servants to to humanity as we how are who are helping people but I do know the Earth in general are who is just you know intend to do good but yes I I just I do miss talking to people about our work so get back into that mix then really all of these new crypto rails will be running smoothly so you can not have any just going to it’s going to be smooth operating globally to do what we do and not have to be choked off by Banks or or big data or any of the centralized choke point so that’s very exciting will keep in touch about all that indefinitely always feel free to if you don’t mind I have kind of a fetish that’s like a around using academic work that’s done basic p like I have I feel like it’s a real tragedy all of the all of the the college work University work that’s done to just get a a grade in a class and like no one ever been at work ever see the light of day so yeah if you ever have papers that you write that only are red by you and your professor if they don’t own if they allow you to retain the copyright ownership do that then by all means I love for you to share some of your work would read it as great or I can read it or whatever but that would just be able to give more life to the work that you’re doing as you’re doing it so sweet omigod thank you Patty before I do go I should let you know I did do an online project and it was on The Witches of Instagram and the active is the first through that so if you want to take a look at that that’s online which activism. but you are so which activism. C a r r g. Co after but that was a huge project for me I’m inspiring I’m still in the undergraduate you know level of things with everything but I wasn’t that simple logical digital anthropological project I did really available for people to read if they want to I just looked at activism efforts through Instagram with entrepreneurial witches who use Instagram as one of the social media Outlets within a cock of other outlets of course it was mostly fake stuff focusing on like you know Instagram not just on Facebook or something like that but because I love Instagram I think it’s really helped a lot of those witches with in North America but I was also looking at algorithmic homogeneity in that project as well looking at how you got does diaper rash eclectic group of people but when you look at their representation through hashtag feeds like witches of Instagram’s hashtag feed you just seeing very specific types of representation switch that doesn’t really help the community this isn’t over like an overarching issue we’re having were influencers are starting to kind of represents the same things look the same like they’re expected to look similar ways and you know that diversity kind of gets lost in the shuffle for communities like this which is breakfast like this community represents diversity so seeing how it’s represented in juxtaposition to what it actually looks like you’re so kind of a music gap there and a lot has to do with the way algorithms prioritize what is considered a witch and what is it considered when they decide to show up in the yeah Which Wich activism. Card with two r’s. Co I think it is being a sex which is very I think important to to this and I think that was what led me to this and just looking at how content producers who create content similar to what you and I create and how are work it’s treated vs. you know quote on quote acceptable ways of that sucks it’s becoming more problematic and I think it needs to be addressed and this is also why I was talked about but I think tajuk lineages need to be institutionalized and somebody to protect our beliefs speak of our beliefs kind of cat Trampled Under the carpet and I’m not okay with that so I think it’s also I received an increase in witchcraft in the US and why we’re understanding it more as an acceptable form of spiritual practices always has been but you know well you know what history looks like so I’m just glad to see him searching some that and understandings of people going toward religious practices or spiritual practices allow for self-expression in sexual Freedom especially when we’re referring to what we do specifically this really makes me feel a lot better about myself because I’m starting to really wonder like what’s wrong with me why don’t I watch a lot of boring what everybody else is in the morning I’m just kind of like I’m not with it like what’s wrong with me and really it’s because I really more interested in things like digital anthropology on sex witches and that’s why I don’t like I said I guess there’s nothing nothing makes you feel good right like you know what you know and of course it’s obviously not harming other people or whatever it’s something that makes you happy do it right like I I live very much in my own on my own standards and in my own head and you know a lot and whether or not people you know agree with me but doesn’t it’s none of their business as far as I’m concerned that you mean a lot of people who Venture you don’t think like you and you do feel same way as you there they just haven’t had a chance to explore does Mater you know so I think that’s where you and I come in like we help people really kind of put more to thought so they’ve already had or the concepts they’ve already considered on their own and really help them flush it out to something that works in their life right sorry about a stack the survival weapon project that I created his basic beat and in an answer to what you propose there which is it I’m I’m using the the the youthful beauty of the younger witch population to be the Trojan Horse that leads people to the elderly witches who need our support and need money to survive and to keep their lineages transmitting and so there’s that’s that’s kind of in my cauldron that’s issue that I want to help address and it’s interesting that your tablet you probably have a lot to offer and now in that regard as well and so you’ll probably be a consultant on that project at some point with this let me know I didn’t mind you I there’s so many ways you can further that project to with you know if any of those older witches want to do some more work has the other witches that you have right now like whether it’s like modeling with us we’re thinking I definitely say go out there and do it to like let them do their thing too because there’s such a diversity of what people admire and appreciate and are attracted to it’s certainly not just in these one you know that we think of the one ways of just like you know the young attractive conventionally attractive person but I’m starting to really see Prophet not just Prim just profit would like go public interest in a variety of different types of body types and ages and genders are non gender is like there’s this all out there and then you offer up the ability of expression two people love not just the one type of Hollywood asks a type of Attraction you know that type of physical look you start initiating and when U Niche there is a lot of profit in that too but there’s also a lot of appreciation for it to social appreciation so I say if you’re if you’re going to do a Witch Project where you know you have people presenting themselves and expressing themselves in a certain way I think I invite you to consider having all your wishes have that option just because like I said that there is a market there is there are people who want that it’s just all in the marketing it’s all in how you present the project there a lot of people who made things very profitable and very popular because it was unique and it might not seem too lucrative at first but because of how they persisted and how they put forward that message they started obtaining you know of the large followership like for example with suicide girls I mean there’s always been attraction for women with tattoos alternative goth looks and alternative looks in general but the way they grew that was quite interesting than amazing to watch because that there was was the way they Market at me know when they branched off into other things from my understanding and Jack real asking you know so yeah I think I don’t know I think if you have it saved which is who are at all interested in Creative expressing themselves or in expressing themselves in a specific way I say give them all the shot you know just find what works again oh what what’s working another rounds and see if you can find satistics or data on that and find ways to Market those that are let’s say unique in their own ways you know I’m just going to think I’ll help a lot like you’re going to get a lot of people liking different things and it comes to town tourism I think there is a lot of ways to express interest in new forms of artistic forms it’s just finding those Creative Marketing and promotional ways of doing it right it’s a good thing and you can always have the sexy tikini body masseuses but like you have some really cool priestesses who to like new churches and they might not look like those to keeney’s but there are sexy in their own ways and they’re appealing and motivational and magnetic in their own ways you know and just about sexy or whatever we think of a sexy in this continent in the society write a lot of different ways of going about things we are charged with meanings and ways of having to extend beyond just what’s in front of us and in the Intercontinental exceed those limitations surpassed them and find creative ways to bring charges on my think two people because it certainly goes beyond just whatever sound like pornhub or Google I don’t know why I have a sex cells but it certainly it’s high so well until we can talk about this whole time like they’re so much depth and print there so many principles a lot of information that are easy to access but if he can find artistic ways of expressing that information that’s not easy to access too that’s all so amazing and you even be very much so so thank you again for your time everything and look forward to the next time and what would be the best way for people to follow your work now or I would say Instagram is still really good I mean there’s also YouTube in both cases just looking up Taki the ticket on speaker on YouTube and Instagram but yeah I’m active on Instagram these days cuz microblogging takes less time but I also like right now like I find it still a much more free or social media outlets in most are you know at the moment I will again thank you so much have a wonderful rest of your evening and this is a real treat. I hope we get to do it again soon you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition assassini and Ramona podcast to donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Wisdom for Practicing Ethical Magic with Michael Bonner TPP186

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In this episode I’m joined by my new dear friend Mike Bonner for a discussion about ethical magic, sex magic, consciousness, love, fantasy, romance, pansexuality, and much more.

 

He does a beautiful job laying out both fundamental and advanced concepts for navigating the color spectrum of magic. He also provides very practical down to earth skill sets and tools for keeping your magical practice on a healthy course.

 

This episode I know will stand as a perennial resource of wisdom to help up and coming seekers avoid the many pitfalls that result from unchecked egoic tendencies in all areas of life. This is a true gift of heart purification!

 

About Mike:
His super power is to help others discover their own personal power and awareness and claim it, through magick, psychology, nature, tantra, and self exploration. Bonner has been studying and practicing magick, tantra, and psychology for over 15 years.

 

 With the help and teachings of shamans, spiritual guides, gods & goddesses, psychologists, therapists, unbridled and fearless self exploration and pure beings in his life, to empower his journey of discovery for himself and others.

 

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 186 I am doing an episode with a new dear friend of mine Mike Bonner who I’ve connected with my social media and is he’s been a listener and fan of the show and we have so much in common I was a long time coming to get this podcast done and we will be many more forthcoming I’m sure you will fall deeply madly in love with all of his wisdom and insights and really enjoy the subject matter which is really foundational to averting catastrophe and and and staying on course for a really beautiful magical manifestation of all kinds so yes again I hope you enjoy and namaste find and reach their own personal strength and power and to be better solves I did a lot of self-discovery over the years it just slipped through a lot of different different I guess variables you can say like through magic to Tantra through I just communicating with people also just kind of going back to my younger years just kind of you know I know that you come from a Punky background and I was in that as well with some coffee stuff and all this kind of such my grandmother had a son used to do this all the time when I was kid so I watched them to all these things and it was really intriguing and I knew that they were actually doing something because I actually didn’t really know what they were doing it’s like seven or eight years old that I care I don’t I don’t mess with anything dark like that I practice a lot of Earth Magic and Sex Magic white magic things like that just trying to use all that energy that I get to build in there and get to like thrusting into creativity that goes into music or I also do hair I do have a barber and a hairdresser and so a lot of it comes out that way and that was also a way that I discovered I guess kind of what I can do for people on they told me that I helped them a lot and I did I I didn’t realize what I was doing at the time when I was working on my client says as a new Barber and hairdresser I just was a very curious person and I wanted to basically just kind of find out everything about the person that I could not in a creepy way either I just felt that the interaction was so personally it’s a vicious open up to you so I I I tried to listen even even even now I’d like to try to listen as best as I can to what people are actually saying whether it be through their words or their body language cuz I believe both are and I think they’re both equally as important I think we’ve all been sitting in front of somebody when they’ve been saying something on their words you know are coming out but their bodies actually saying something else not just desire to me is a real test connection I think within that person solves so I started noticing that another people then I started asking myself is you know I was doing these things too and so I just started to really look into that and also what people were telling me about you know I could see them and work on conversations go away for a month or two or whatever it was and they live out you know this thing that we talked about her and that’s when people say thank you so much I guess I never really thought about it until that point and that’s kind of as a young adult I’d say about 19 or 20 so I started looking more into the different types of Magic the different types of Tantra which I didn’t realize I was already doing all so you know people have this really funny way of how they think about Tantra the nights I think a conversation for another time cuz that’s a whole other topic I guess that’s that’s really my intro all that all sounds very good to me thank you for sharing that apologies for some of the background noise right now but I know are so we talked about it before one of the reasons why I wanted to say hey we should talk about this around feel like something has been missing as far as really laying a solid foundation for what different best practices of ethical magic really are and what some of the the the core principles that people may may be overlooking and just anybody who is sophisticated it has a long-standing practice study and expiration going to various traditions and they’re all that always intrigued me so I love to hear you help us understand some of the 101 aspects of what it means to even embarked on the path of empowering yourself to feel that you’ve been you could achieve magical powers to help with whatever comes to mind if you call yourself different terminology for magic and basically I people can call themselves whatever they like forgot my my what I believe are the real foundations of magic is accountability and responsibility I think those are two very very very strong pieces of the foundation that also translate into into life. I think but when you’re actually practicing magic you know if you’re going to set out to do some kind of ritual or spell whether it’s something that you want to do of your own making and will or you know of something that’s that’s been around for a while or whatever is the intention you have to have to State your intentions first and foremost it’s one of them what’s important things to do even before creating a Sacred Space in a circle for yourself on I like to start there it can take 10 seconds or I can take 10 minutes or longer it is whatever you want whatever your intention or your intentions are super super clear and just try to be really specific and remember that accountability and responsibility the second thing I think you have to do always right after Arby’s just asked for protection whatever it is you like to call upon whether it’s God or gods or goddesses or deities or you have specific helpers that you like to use Envision yourself in some way than protecting you or something of what I what I like to do is basically I I I surround myself in the circle of these big Rose Bush’s basically with these big thorns and these really really sturdy branches and he’s really beautiful roses and everything from the outside can almost see him that’s that’s what I do and I think that’s really really really really have to start so set your intention ask for your protection and pretty much from there on you can start so you can create trade environment I would say either that’s what I like to do if I have the time on the fit something big that you want to put a lot into whether it’s something that you’re manifesting or or celebrating or whatever it is that you’re doing you’re looking for some answers you know what whatever that is you like also candles or Pinot pillows and blankets or whatever is going to make you comfortable to make you feel is going to be I really actually love to to listen to dancing dance select Lisa Gerrard, magic and you said is my soundtrack goldfrapp for me is another one and she’s an insanely powerful witch and and gives us spells and rituals in front of our faces visually and and threw her words and people don’t even realize it so I’d that’s kind of what I like to do when I have the time to spend on relief. Like I said I know you’ve talked a lot about how important it is to open up chakras and it is really important to do that through the kind of ducks are doing a breathing and end this is really really really opening every single cell and poor and hair and everything in this body that work together because we’re meant to experience a lot of different things and then people are are afraid they’re afraid of everything and it’s it’s actually quite a shame that so many people lives in fear of of change of fear of themselves exterior of identity which I think there is a huge lack of these days you know what social media being so so big and what it is you know I know it’s obvious to state that you know it’s a Time suck her and it’s you know all it does is it really makes people feel bad about themselves and in technology you know we’re more connected today than we ever were and we’re also super disconnected. Only with ourselves but with everything else around us you know I really believe I really do believe that there are three types of people and I think I’ve I’ve talked to you about this before been in the world there’s they’re really honestly I’ve tried to break this down to the most simple simplest form and inform me like I said the three types I think that are out there are aware people people like us people who are trying to be better through our mind body and spirit helping ourselves helping each other helping the environment helping everything Universe all that kind of stuff you know we have to be aware of the soldiers I don’t know how else to tend to say that and then we have the masses who are basically just these zombies these are the people you know that are walking off cliffs to get a picture of walking into the streets and they’re just you know they’re consuming and they’re they’re literally eating each other’s faces while we are standing right in front of them and they have no real awareness that there are doing this they’re just sort of this spoon-fed weird overgrown lump is of sorts in now and I don’t know if there are any if there if there’s any help for that. The masses you know which I like to call the zombies and then let’s just let’s go for the 3rd I believe that the other ones are vampires vampires and those are the parasites up there those are the people that just really latch on I mean it is what it is it’s a vampire is Parasite you know we’ve all come across the state if they want to suck you in and they they need to suck you into all that they created the but are you know I just I basically don’t really pay a lot of attention to that eventually they just get bored and move on so that’s kind of how I died deal with that I guess since we’re talking about three years cuz three such powerful number another another thing that I really believes and is that we have three different brains and I know we talked about this before I made you laugh about this but I do believe that we have three different brains one is our head which is the the Periscope with the feeding tube attached to it if you remember correctly. I just we can go on and on about it you know for all of our logic blocks us from a lot of things and it it also thinks that that it tells us reason but what it does is it ends up talking us out of some really good things also and then we have the second brain which I believe is your heart that’s pretty pretty simple that’s where all the emotions come from that’s that’s where all the pier emotions come from it’s it’s it’s whatever you’re doing whenever you get those feelings of of just being so incredibly insurance so happy and and it’s almost childlike you know these childlike feelings of swords and then I want to move on to the third Friday which is your guts and that’s responsible for all the the intuition that most people just choose to ignore that were frankly I think they just don’t hear it sometimes or maybe most of the time I also think that’s where are most Primal South comes from and I try to use those three brains separately to identify different I guess emotions that come from something situations that happened you know I think you have to be pretty clear about where that is coming from to be able to physically pinpoint if it’s if it’s if it’s all in motion if it’s something that I was trying to tell us they’re just not aware of and I like to when I get to talk to people when they’re sitting in my chair or if I’m having a coffee with some water or whatever I mean I’ve I’ve had some great conversations with people just sitting waiting to get my car washed you know all these little connections I I believe in synchronicity also I think synchronicity is is is a real thing and it’s a huge thing and I think that also coincides goes along with magic you know magic is a a change of consciousness within yourself and also be able being able to to change the rib that Consciousness around you it all kind of goes back and points to the same kind of thing you know when when we’re in tune we not only are better people for everything around us but specifically for other people and I think that’s really important and you know cuz the world that we live in right now is just like I said earlier so full of fear and and come and paranoia and I think that everybody just needs to kind of take a step back and really be accountable and be responsible for yourself in hey we’re not be a little responsible for other people to sometimes I don’t think it’s such a bad thing is to also from previous especially bad is part of the ocean that I have kicked her out for a while I really am not going to stay the name of this this fellow but I will say that I was interested in studying a a very accomplished black time trick magician who has very interesting thesis about the difference between white magic and black magic and into to paraphrase what one of the things he said it was basically that you can if you were if you were to truly be a projectile practitioner white magic then you would not attempt to influence the outcome really evenie evenie life of that because that would be so presumptuous to assume that you have the almighty waste God and therefore Could Do no harm and everything you do is going to be perfectly each of the life but more but more realistic see that that’s that’s wishful thinking is my any more realistically it’s it’s it’s a safer intellectual place to own that if you were trying to make any adjustments on the outcomes of anyone’s life your own & Beyond then actually physically a black magician because you are defying the the natural order of things and it’s all semantics my grandmother they were really trying to influence and actually make these things happen good most of the time it was not good and they did and they did it you know I’m with white magic and and and Earth Magic and sex Magik I I don’t I mean I guess influence I guess is the word we can use for now you’re sort of just taking all of this energy bill topping in one way or another if you know however you felt it up and then being able to use that into I don’t know if I don’t know if I would say influence I would say uh manifestation really some people call it prayer some people call it meditation whatever you want to call it I just feel I don’t know I feel like with with those types of magic in the lighter stuff you’re more of asking verses asking and kind of directing your you’re not you’re not really pushing for this this this intense outcome so to speak I mean there’s a there isn’t there definitely has been crazy intense outcomes with different things that I’ve done before but for me I can only speak personally I out of my experience those who have come out of liver a surprise when they did and then I ended up feeling things are experiencing things I’ve never done before I knew that I hit these other levels out of magic so I guess I don’t have never heard I’ve never I’ve never heard that argument but I do understand what what he’s saying by that answer or might my response to that make any sense I think we’re really getting somewhere because you know the simple I guess the shore most likely people who think they’re doing only white magic are doing great magic and people who think they’re only doing Blackmagic are also do it yeah I know I get I totally did I just have never heard it put that way I can only speak from my experience at all I think that’s where the influencing comes comes in the play is that I’ve noticed and gray like you said or black it is it’s usually a demand for something whether that’s a strong demand or a light one or or whatever it does that make sense what you just said right there is so pivotal because if you like I would love to have to be instrumental in in training a new the Next Generation magicians who who who understand you are not understanding of what the parameters of black magic are to eat I don’t want to do it or I don’t do it and do it for someone to trust that you really don’t do is like how do you define it so you know that intuition brain the gut-brain you know something doesn’t feel right doing something that you maybe you’re questioning to a point you know you that much then I would say stop I mean the same thing goes for like when you’re learning a haircut. funny things when it comes to Magic but also it’s that intention and I mean all four of those to me are before you do anything and I guess you know kind of going back to the house he was in a sort of saying that the white magicians are black and black or white and you know all of this is your job to be to be really responsible in in what you’re doing and what you’re asking and what your intentions are I mean it literally all just goes and points back to the same thing when I look at it you know I’m always very very very careful and I’ve been practicing the stuff for sale like I was really honing in on some stuff and then I ended up being a moving to the desert like I do know we talked before the last couple years and not that really propelled me into a whole other level of magic that I’ve never even knew I was capable of and that’s that’s what sort of solidified the the power that I have is things like I said to help other mothers finders in to claim it and and share my practices and what’s helped me put my mind at ease and not not in not just my mind or my brains and all three of them but but my my soul and everything else has is well you know I I’ve always believed this I believe that people really really really have to Value themselves and I mean really value themselves cuz it’s a direct reflection of how you interact with everything around you not just the other people but Adam Wilson you know that our sins and everything and I feel like a lot of people don’t value themselves these days for whatever reason it is and then like I said where you can sell you endless consuming society and in the end it didn’t they just bursting at the seams with human child basically it’s their eyes and ears are being consumed by you know the Kardashians and the news and the biscuits and you know just all this crazy shit instead of putting other things in in there you know turn the TV off so you can have the internet than the TV bundle in the whole deal I always tell them you know that’s a lot but I am one of those weirdos and every single time I got the same response it’s what do you do what do you do with yourself I don’t understand what you do explain to them exactly what I did or whatever I’m not going to I’m not going to tell the poor girl at Time Warner one network to the other all right where we exactly where when you realize that when you got cut off but if I could bring us back to where to elaborate on and I was going to say the one I love about how you framed the distinction between the white and black magic Continuum is really about what the ad if I’m understanding correctly and I’ll kind of rephrase this is like the step-by-step would be the intention and then the call the intention is to do no harm and to do good or to do well or to heal or to manifest positivity or something of us open generate so positivity as he has the intention and then instead of instead of imposing your your sort of self-promoting self-aggrandizing or somehow that comes from what are you but I believe in a lot of that comes from Eco you know about asking and asking and away and also just trying to coddle it enter to she also harness it at the same time you know there’s a gentleness to it and also the black magic in the darker Arts I find it very demanding when they’re asking its atom and it’s a hey. I feel like a lot of it just comes from the ego you know it isn’t that is what I think is like I’m going to make this happen this is going to happen because I say I’m a powerfuel I I’m this powerful I’m blah blah blah you know when I when I come to my own personal power I let it speak to me I know that sounds corny and whatever but I do you know I left I let it talk to me I mean the other day I was brushing my teeth in the bathroom and I had a really really funny experience on the window is directly behind me and it looks up into these really beautiful trees and I was just brushing my teeth tonight I got whatever it was I didn’t really pay any trees with the branches coming up looks like basically he’s like Kevin Lee really amazing earth Spirits they just look like these pillars with these what their hands up into the air in the sun was coming through for me to be able to recognize that as I’m just one daily brushing my teeth and you know doing whatever to see something like that I think it’s really Spectacular Now and Then that led needs some thinking and then I’d like to writing and then that actually led to sort of I guess you’d call it a vegetable that I said last night I didn’t even really plan on doing on from just brushing my teeth looking up and being just being open and aware enough to accept things like this when when the earth is giving you something when a person or another being I don’t feel like there are coincidences with the black it’s like these definitive I guess like miles to basically justify and validate that your accessory is working does that make sense other assorted from distinction I’m thinking trying to access my normally very inefficient left brain I’m trying to figure out almost mathematical or algorithmic type of thinking to this mechanical or robotic but I think the juxtaposition of the news actually really quite wonderful I feel like magic can be an if-then type algorithm where you basically about what is an if-then a recipe is an algorithm in the algorithm is the recipe so there you have it so it’s the thing of it that way I’d say where we are on this graph for this this these branches that are coming out from a tree or a sort of thought bubble you know this series of steps and process uses that the the intention now I’m kind of seeing how the way to it’s not like it gets completely Amorphis because the intention could be to raise a million dollars for charity which which has elements of it that are are very parameterize do you know you have the not be a dollar amount you have the the sort of limiting factor that it be for a nonprofit organization for some charitable cause that you would hope will be auctioned charity than it would have some wedding on what its value is what is what is a specific charity and what do they do for people that Community whatever it is you know animals once again to that in ten and then your accountability and responsibility to that attention to that make sense so the intention let’s say if it was to save the polar bears you would focus on the help and try calling on not just got all that stuff you know put the energy out there throwing out a million tentacles at one time you’re not quite a fishing that but like you’re trying to zap and you’re trying to get an end open these channels up and try to reach other people I’m in spine that. Sort of tap into their goodness as well you know and end end it’s all I can kind of see what the intention is to save the polar bears do to do all the stuff of course you know you want to be able to hit this goals and that is obviously important but I think that the weight of it needs to go back to what the what the reason and why why you’re you’re why you’re doing this why you feel so strongly about it to me that’s more to me that’s more important you know cuz when it’s with all of that projection and all of that even when you’re when you’re putting that out there too I just I feel like it’s it’s just better all the way around energetically speaking we have it well yeah because you could ask for billing and maybe it cost you a hundred million and if you would have just said get the job done you would have been really really really specific cuz I have been many times when I’m sure it’s going to happen again because I really focused on the on X y&z now I know I was really really really sure let’s go forward a little bit and woe holyshit all this stuff wow okay this is this is incredible you know I’m just asking you know asking for things and not being afraid to ask so I got all these two I got all the pieces but I didn’t quite get them in the order I wanted them in right is that make you know what I mean weather at make the Joker’s like you had your prayers are answered but it’s distributed you know they are dropped but they’re broken in two packages across time and space you have to like hang on to that key that you found in the gutter for like 5 years in that door that you can’t open that you thought you should be able to the keys in your pocket it and then reveal their working towards towards something good it was in a different order or it was just not quite like I said I thought I was even more than I had to go back and look at my writing it look at and that’s my accountability in my responsibility to myself and University anyway I know I mean I know it’s a little tiny things but things has lasers with the order of the universe and that’s why I say you know I will always go back to accountability responsibility and intention and that has actually helped me with those actually put those into everyday use all the time in my life and it and it really really does Century because I’m always stand under them sesef creepy way but you know I just I want to be accountable for my actions for the things that come out of my mouth which is why I choose my words you know in my tone and my delivery very carefully you know I want to be responsible not just to myself but but two other people of the earth you know animals everything I want to be responsible to the magic I want to be responsible to people are saying that that I you know she’ll balance somewhere I don’t I don’t I never considered myself you know I just have to kind of go you hear it enough times from people you got to start looking into it you know and I’ve always been really humble about not just like my hair dressing as well and it’s cool to have been able to the Catalyst that field my inch extend a check and intent ra and yoga and just self-exploration with my mind body and spirit you know and it’s cool like I said what such an intimate exchange that I’m having with my clients in my relationships whether it’s been you know 6 months or 20 years I’ve been doing this 23 years and I literally get to practice my magic everyday all day not just when I’m at work it seems to be more concentrated when I’m at work because obviously you know that I protect myself every single day at work at 10 in the morning I’m up at like 5 or 6 I can’t just get up and go like I need to have a really slow the morning and and just spend some time with myself 3 years ago and she’s like I know it’s going to sound stupid but really she was telling me that I did a really good job and I was able to just walk away from it and not be angry and not be anything and you know if anything I felt that stunted and at their age they’re never going to really have the chance to kind of play another way and I think that it was because they didn’t want to be another way but but what I was saying was she wanted me to be aware of it and I was but I didn’t I didn’t see it through her eyes and never get to see each other selves exactly how other people see us and we never will you know and so she said you know you need to look at yourself in the mirror tonight for 30 seconds straight in the eyes and tell yourself thank you you’re a badass and you should have really fucking good job. Cutting salon or if I you know help somebody out that day or whatever I got a phone call from a client with her friends you know after we talk after we took whatever and they are thinking I have to be really humble you know I’m not passing out and I’m not handing out like free I don’t want I don’t like unsolicited advice you know it’s so one of the first things I do ask people not just with my work and I could be the hairdressing barbering star that could be counseling or are you know just just helping people with magic just keep it really clear it really really really really clear about what your intentions are. Yeah that really setting in and like I said not in a weird obsessive way but they put it really does make you rethink your reactions or even you know have not having a reaction to something is a reaction and I think a lot of us need to practice on a lot more you know not a not having a reaction to something even even possible yeah yeah and don’t keep it on Harrison into some fire you know I mean I try to walk that person away from the fire cuz I don’t know I just I think I truly believe that everybody deserves to be happy it starts with ourselves that it actually it’s that needing that wants to become a better man for myself or and it flows out if you and is infectious you know toddlers but I really do believe it has to be that first and foremost thing you said it’s important to note that says in this some kind of an outline here it is said your ability to stay accountable really if we if we look zoom into that word we’re talking about accounting it brings to mind the notion of a ledger and unassertive bookkeeping and so the bookkeeping is your book of spells so if you if you crave cast that magic spell and you do you set your intention and then you you see that it might be going walk or something but you have the ability to go back to that date and you do it on a spicious days of the calendar so that you can know where to where to go back to it are you confusing software you can search for it but to be able to if you if you just you just verbalize it you may not remember which I constantly have so many different books and actually you know I have one that’s kind of a general one that I’m constantly have about three or four that I’m kind of working at one time always you know one of them is for my partner and I specifically for both of us you know one of them is kind of a general one one is from me and my interactions with yellow lines notebook pads you know like the legal ones and so I just write down a lot of stuff I’m not a writer I just I just ride a lot of things down your bullet point things to make things all kinds of stuff you know you you can you already know or you trying to collect what that smell is what that ritual is what you’re trying to do put it all down and then once once you actually do everything you can either form at it before you know if you want a bullet point the different steps that you want to do like I say if you’re doing a spell the ritual that you created for yourself I think that’s completely fine you want to give things objects meanings you want to you know do it do I’m all for that you know I don’t care what it is you use I like to use a combination of different things that I’ve collected throughout the years symbolize different stuff for me and also I like to use a lot of different crystals in a lot of different God where we going with this I’m so sorry Vizio creating your own ritual is what I was saying there we go and just put a little bit of the power of writing it down so you can go back and check on it and might get the answer you could actually addressed it you know you could be right in a mandarin constitutional freedoms and yeah right down all the stuff cuz I actually do have a cooking diary that I do cuz I like to call so and so I take notes of every single thing that I do and it’s also just really good to go back and review or you know even just to kind of go back and read these books and see you know it’s a really interesting way to tell my own story to myself you know no one really gets to look at these except you know every now and then my I’ll show my boyfriend are you know maybe I’ll show up page or something or two or you know whatever it is I share a lot with him the one that I have I’m supposed to mean I was just really cool Connection in the synchronicities that we have together having said that I’ll come right down and write down your rituals in your spells you know if you eat your your journey as a magician really I mean we do this weekend with our card since you know so it’s basically keeping sort of your own it’s kind of like a journal in a report card and a bunch of other things all thrown in together you know and then again I think it’s just an interesting way of contacting some books that are like 15 years old has moved back to the city of December to write thank you notes bass like it’s all me I can all you know I can see and I can feel that it’s all me but just to watch the evolution of but just the awareness and the openness because I really really really might my 30s for me were about being really open and I thought I was open and I wasn’t certain ways but I was so closed off and scared and invulnerable most mostly on a sort of an emotional level would certain Dynamics and I just was like fuck it you know this I really really really want to know what this is like I want to know what that’s like I want to know what it’s like to really still open and so I had to learn that the process of letting go look at myself as a work in progress as we all are letting letting go was like one of my biggest lessons in keeping things simple Letting Go being present I’m old I don’t take anything personally and I used to take as I was a fucking crazy ass young double Scorpio and pass shit and I I just would be exhausted and I didn’t have time for myself so I had that was another thing that actually made me focus on myself and go okay this is going back to I have to be able to take to help myself and I can’t I can’t complete all of my energy and all of everything that I have two other people all the time you know if there’s a limit there’s a limit that I can get especially like in a work setting are in a social setting is for a social and I am actually quite an introvert I really prefer just like mellow chill kind of stuff you know I was going to say just one that I would like everyone to try to practice is to just really not take anything really personally because ultimately you know I am the only person who’s responsible for my own feelings whatever they are it is a matter of somebody says something to you that’s true or not or whatever it is I get to choose how I feel about everything absolutely that’s one of the Four Agreements Don Miguel Ruiz Four Agreements don’t take things to do your best dentist that take things personally and celebration I have for you so I think this was a good intro and I think too kind of I’d like to just give you one more sort of topic to explore for now and then we can leave it also is a bit of a cliffhanger we can come back I think there’s a lot of stuff more to unpack future episodes so I think that would be good to just have to have this be the very beginning intro kind of introduction to to your pear diamond and I appreciate this is a gold mine this is that I feel like you’re this is such a like I found the end of the rainbow here this is this treasure all about is is beyond I don’t even have words for it I mean I listen to your podcast for a really long time you know any what you know and then we ended up messaging somewhere along the line and I’m just saying is that I’m very thankful that I got to connect with you just just even sending you a note that one time or whatever it’s just all these things that we’ve had I’ve always enjoyed them seriously thank you I mean I know and I can I listen to your show and I know the time of people that you have on all the time for me to be part of this I mean even just one time is is really cool for me to be able to share this stuff with you with you and and everyone who listens to you so I just want to say thanks again I’m super super green food you’re welcome and thank you and if they have mutual honor him and blessing and I would say yeah the thing that’s on my mind for you know something soon to refund a bit now before we close for this this first episode we something that is the sort of throws a monkey wrench into the the very elegant logic that we have worked together here to kind of layout in Spanish of the sizes is what I would I have explored is is sort of the how to be accountable and responsible and ethical with the desire to pursue or seduce someone in the how that well you were sexually stimulating yourself and fantasizing about a sexual outcome with a potential partner that there is like for me I have a sort of framework work checklist where where I do want to have some clear intention in and released released that monitor my vibration around the energy and certainly of the conduct my own conduct in the Fantasy Realm because it is I believe a a a karmic casino to be fantasizing sexually and so you got to be with what are your thoughts on that can be it’s murky territory when we look at what’s the difference between it all that well the grace World of Magic here so we have please take away about what the intention as you know see if you see incredible person whether that be attached that’s that’s usually the person you want to buy what is the most important question is he this and it hit me the right way whatever it is you know like I said that’s really really ask yourself why practice is a bunch a lot of different things are where they are on a spiritual level you know versus someone who isn’t that all I mean to did you did you have liked it with your question were you thinking more about someone who is more open and spiritually aware or in touch with you know themselves and everything around them or are you speaking of just sort of like more social let me have I guess I’ll share with you a little bit of a little bit of intimate details about how I solely what year is this to me I feel like this I very very rarely use pornography of any kind as the visual aid or stimulant for myself because you know when I was a lot younger and a lot hornier and a lot less sophisticated spiritually I would say if I dare say then he was just fodder but the thing is what I and I was also jaculating constantly without any so and that was because of the Paradigm that that I was them at that that area of acid images of human consciousness in the West the surface ship that we’ve talked about before it right so that said to me that what I like what I know now if I would have known then what I know now I would have said to myself to have a practice more like what I have now wishes to Safeway when I fantasize about a future sexual encounter it really has got to actually in my mind be a very plausible realistic potential outcome with someone who is it is accessible by some believe with me and so I’m not really jerking off to dead people and I only brought enough to movie stars and people who unless I really really believe that what I want to do is structure my destiny to encounter them and have us have a mutual Very sensual erotic Mutual exchange I don’t really waste my Prada I don’t waste my see that as my Jing I’m not going to spill my seed in where to put a spell that has really no it’s not really a meritorious or whatever the word will be it doesn’t really it’s not part of my destiny so and this is just me kind of putting my thoughts into the into the original question for Texas is that I feel like the I would either they’re up there are people there are always a list of people who I’m attracted to in my life who are in weed ovarian degrees of proximity to me and in Space the time I suppose but maybe hey sup maybe some of them are are in committed monogamous relationships and therefore I’m also risking the the karmic consequences of of like astral home-wrecking by have a responsibility in that situation is just about being responsible on a sexual and a spiritual and in a personal level and in on a friendship level if that’s where it is too you know I mean I I’ve had experiences with other with other people before and even if it’s going to be a one-time thing from for me or for us or for whatever it is I’m very clear with one wants if that makes sense I don’t just let somebody why don’t open the door. Not physically but you know what I mean just open open the door and let them walk in and when wander around you know I’d I’d like to say okay look you know I am and I’m really really Frank here I have told you guys before it’s like look you know in my mind I’m going okay I know this is probably be like a one-time thing doesn’t happen all that often or it happened all that often but I would say with hey look I’m not looking for pornsex I’m not looking to get off like I want to actually have sex with an nnn if you don’t know what that means you know really that I can cut if you’re willing if you’re willing I can kind of show you a different way of going out this an interesting really super clear that’s where that double fucking Scorpio comes in you know I just I can’t lie and I’m very very very direct and I will say that in my experience I have it’s been it’s been really fine with that and sometimes it’s been really great or like let’s say you know you end up meeting somebody and there’s a connection there’s a little bit of a friendship and then it goes there sexually and then you realize that’s okay I don’t want to be in a committed thing with you or I’m not you know any in a space where I could be in a relationship whether you want to or not that’s just you know what it is to be able to be emotionally irresponsible not to yourself and accountability to the other person as well and yourself I want to have a really good hopefully intense on whatever level sexual experience with somebody that’s problem with most men is that most people I would say in general but they’re just so used to getting off by using corn by using this by using whatever and I just I feel like it when you get it really really really in tune with yourself you’re going back to say it with what you were saying like I just don’t want to spill my seed and then wasted I I feel the same way but at the same time like there have been several times were the sex that I have with my boyfriend my actual partner is incredible and it just keeps getting better and better and better and sometimes I mean we don’t set out for this but like it will end up coming like six times over you know some hours or whatever it is and it’s like holyfuck like Jesus Christ and then you know it’s almost like that sort of Monex states where you just had sex had nowhere you everything just is talking to you the leaves it wasn’t just getting off you guys were able to connect on levels where you really took each other separately and together to other places I mean this I have had some experience with this man his name is Johnny Ray he’s he’s really seriously the best person I’ve ever been with I’ve never been with anybody like him he has experience in the matter with him have been just utterly mind-blowingly shocking in a really good way swear he’s actually aided me in seeing certain things while doing sex magick and while doing some other stuff like that I’d like that I actually saw even though my eyes were closed I saw these things I went places you know really interesting and I took a long time to kind of develop but like I I I don’t know I I find again I just think that like you don’t you just say you have to really be responsible but it do whatever is right for you is what I’m saying like I said if if you’re if you’re in a situation where if it feels right that that you’re going to come again then go for it you know if you can try that you don’t try to do all that cuz that’s because it makes the experience more intense and there’s so much more than just like I said then getting off you know another program to do and and there are a lot of times to ejaculate at all and still have an equally razee go to experience you know a lot of full body in touch with your actual magic right there you know well I think on that note I don’t think we could end on a better a better note in a better place to conclude I think that really is a great a great introduction and this is this smoking hot material and I can’t wait to to keep exploring I’m more of this and zooming into various aspects so for now we’ll see it are there any specific ways that you would like listen this to reach out to you how can I go get a nice haircut it’s the same it’s Mike Bonner hair so m i k e b o n n e r and then hair hair at gmail.com on Instagram I do tarot readings to I don’t claim the psychic I’m not really really really try to connect with people on listen to them that’s what I try to do this first and foremost well I got to say it has been an absolute treat and Prejudice is like such a bicycle synchronistic to be able to just have this Pockets out there than have it find people and then and then all the sudden we’re we’re already talking when you’re adding a lot to to this this archive this is sort of the akashic record that I’m not curious to hear so thank you so much again and I look forward to next time I will yeah everybody have sweet and sweet dreams and a good prayers and magic spells and we will help keep each other accountable and responsible and also remember that intention with everything just intense so important did all right all right I will take you with you Google talk to you so I would actually like to share and I now just thinking of it I have an example of a personal and almost perfect example of a white magick manifestation which will then I’ll create a ritual around this that’ll be done free for a year basically starts in November that’s the the month I was born and so for me not on the same calendar as everybody else when they do their resolutions and all that kind of stuff you know in January I mean frankly it just doesn’t mean anything to me November my birth my own personal earlier anyhow having said that I have been working on just trying to manifest and think about him focused a lot of energy on what I want out of this coming year and sometimes it happens before November sometimes it happens during and and this time it took a couple months and so anyhow I woke up yesterday morning and the first thing on my mind was what I heard was this is just the beginning and I have I just move back to LA from being out in the deserts the high desert in Southern California for the last two years I needed a break from everything the city in and then what not and are all the noise and everything that comes and goes around it that clutters us up so I went out to the desert and a long story short I really needed to clear a lot of things Within Myself And also physically all that all my environment you know that is so beautiful and quiet and pretty desolate out there but it’s booming with life you know you sit there for just start looking and listening and you can just literally see everything breathing, there is a lot of movement actually I’m in that Stillness so when I had woke up yesterday that that raise this is just the beginning was really really strong in my head and the next one was come to life on my desk and just wrote what was coming out so and manifestation for the year which is so cool how that happened yeah I was I was actually kind of Blown Away by it at the end of it just because I felt like I’d gotten such a good I don’t know I guess I connected with a part of myself and I really listened to to to whatever it is or whatever they were trying to say to me in an hour or whether it was part of me as well I don’t know the point is that it’s I feel really really great and humbled that it came out so I’m just going to read you what what this sort of white magick manifestation isn’t this is just the beginning come to life it is the real you that speaks through your rebellious Sacred Heart in this living your life not the monkey mind the mind is not much more than a swirling canopy of Habitual reactions your monkey mind is not to run the show at the moment it might have a lot to say and at times it seems very convincing but it’s not the one in charge remember are three different brands one that had drained brain scuse me the mines brain which I like to also call once again the Periscope with the feeding tube attached that brain is responsible for logic and reason number two are other brain is the heart the heart brain you know the heart responsible for our emotions the death of things and our reactions to things I believe is Our God’s are intuition brain I believe it’s also very Primal and Saul so it didn’t stink you know I’m going to focus on the hearts and intuition brain and remember to the monkey brain rest gets us into trouble and the additional thoughts and creative and energetic Awakening is happening it is so far beyond what the mind is now capable of controlling others might not like it because it means change coming to life tends to do that however it is now and the only real choice I have to make is how to deal with it coming to life means feeling treating the space and just doing it don’t hold back and this process I will uncover the Artistry of the universal Creator and creators I will honor the sacredness of Life by exploring it without restraint and that includes the flow of my feelings I don’t have to do anything with them other than Express them learning how to access feeling allows you to learn how to access intuition creative inspiration and internal guidance I have chosen to come into a body and live consciously within it even in times of pain know and trust that there will be also ecstasy and Bliss as the process of healing and Awakening continues the message is be alive there’s no going back no falling into old ways I have crossed the threshold from an old way of being in an old life and try as I might I cannot return besides it won’t be the same as it used to griever celebrate do both move on there’s a new adventure awaiting me now and I want even deeper connection to my own instincts my body feelings intuition magic and everything I will trust and embrace it and it will trust and embrace me in return. 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Creating Images that Reveal the Inner Goddess with Robert Domondon TPP169

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In this podcast I’m joined by the highly esteemed and accomplished photographer and artistic image creator Robert Domondon. I discovered his breath-taking work on Instagram and feel that he is producing some of the most honorable and lovable imagery of women who are expressing their inner goddess. We learn all about the very intentional and sacred manner and methodology that he’s developed. He shares deep and profound insights about his business practices and artistic vision that can be applied to any profession and lifestyle. It was truly a gift to connect with him in this way and I’m hoping we’ll be collaborating some day.

About Robert:

Robert Elvin Domondon is a visual artist on stories of women’s empowerment, positive body image, and the divine feminine themes. He does photography and video on Boudoir, Fine Art Nudes, Dance, and Goddess Portraits. He is a retired physician from Asia, and does ICU Nursing a few nights a week. A healer of more than 30 years. He loves hiking, he is a practitioner of meditation and Tantric touch. His name means “brightly famous for being a noble friend.” He lives in San Francisco, CA.

Artist Statement:

“I believe that imagery is powerful….
and that honoring our bodies, emotions, choices & feelingsthrough photography— whether in front of or behind the camera —is sublimely empowering.

“I’m on a mission to empower every woman to take care and adore their bodies, reclaim their femininity, and inspire an inner beauty that lasts.

“I start each photoshoot with a prayer: I declare my intentions to the universe that we produce imagery that will inspire women to find their inner goddess and dancer. May it be so.

“I seek that each encounter be transformative and life-healing. To Live Lovelier Longer

Contact information:
Instagram.com/RobertDomondon
Email: Robert [at] Domondon [dot]us

Topics we discuss include:

  • how he brings out the inner ideals of women
  • female empowerment
  • healing
  • positive self image
  • beauty
  • sacred sexuality
  • his clients include dancers, fashionistas, people who love to portray themselves as goddesses
  • the need to increase our tribe
  • making a better world by celebrating womens’ gifts
  • supporting the feminine in order that we can we males can be whole as well, as well as society
  • how images are powerful
  • honoring our bodies through photography
  • sublime empowerment
  • how he uses media to provide his service to the community
  • how he started with small camera when he was young
  • the influence of Amercian Photographer magazine
  • how his mother was his first impression of the goddess
  • she reminds him ofbeauty, love, motherhood, fertility
  • he also studies the mythology of the role of the divine feminine in conflict, war,
  • creation and death
  • how they rise above all that
  • what got him into the honoring vibe is how he saw his mother rise above
  • she had serious problems with his dad, his dad left, she was a single mother of 3, she
  • had problems of finance and even got cancer
  • but was able to rise above all that, she’s a survivor
  • to him that’s what a goddess is, someone who rises above and shows the inner beauty of love
  • how everyone can be a goddess
  • some of his clients are performers in public eye who come for good portiolio shots
    but most clients are not models, they’re soccer moms, professionals, curvy gals, 50+, cancer survivors
  • how his work helps to create an alternative to harmful depictions of women,
  • how to ethically navigate the modeling/photo industry
  • how he draws upon the energy of goddess archetypes such as the innocent maiden, the virgin, to present innocense, natural and inquisitive attitudes
  • as well as the nurturing mother, he sees men hurting and sees women hurting, he takes them on and and i take them on and and helps them address their pain through imagery
  • he draws upon the warrior, up on the battle front, up on the battle field, or tackling problems and overcoming challenges
  • he also draws upon the wise old women, they give not only information but the wisdom of what to do with it
  • he applies the wisdom in navigating the industry some of the harmful effects of objectifying women, of porn, going after the lower parts of our existance, the lower parts of our levels of operating
  • how he tries to show there’s a better way
  • exploring and respecting boundaries around nudity
  • for some women nudity is felt to be very personal
  • for some its an expression of freedom
  • he respects both, it’s a fine line he always has to walk
  • he used to have a brand, then threw that all away
  • now he tries to learn more of the person, their inner joys, inner struggles, inner pains, what have they gone through, what inside of them is beautiful
  • how he hopes that the pictures he takes will be deeply connected with by the model
  • his goal is to open up so divine energy can flow
  • he has his own values that he holds true to
  • the before and after energetically
  • the experience of goddess worship on set
  • before clicking first shot, he creates a container saying what his intentions are, he declare his intentions to them and to the universe
  • he offers this as a prayer and sets the tone of the meditative sphere that he’s going to operate in during a shoot
  • he declares his intentions to create imagery to inspare women to find their inner goddess, their true self, their inner beauty
  • how this process already unravels a lot of the things that comes into a shoot
  • the interaction is now like worship, it’s like a dance
  • that’s how he opens up, how he creates the shoot for each person
  • how he helps women find themselves through the beauty of shadow work
  • he’ll ask them where they see themselves 5 years from now
  • he’ll ask ask what is the mission and purpose of the image
  • is it to excite, to attract, to provide healing, to mirror pain, to mirror darkness?
  • you have to deal with intention and motivation first
  • he can shoot anywhere
  • he’ll just put up a white background so he can photoshop the background
  • but it’s best if he can shoot them where they are, in nature preferably
  • finding a context of their true lives
  • it could a forest, it could be the sea
  • as far as software, he uses photoshop, and light room mostly
  • all with the intention of serving the story, the story is number one
  • what’s the story that she wants to tell, what’s the story that they want to tell
  • the story supercedes everything else
  • being accomodating and adaptive and flexible in unexpected situations
  • he embraces sirendipity and happy accidents
  • he likes to follow the white rabit where ever it leads and go with the flow
  • it’s less stress and frustrating that way
  • how he helps clients work within their budget, while suggesting what to invest in more to enhance the shoot
  • he advises that models carefully consider the terms of their model release form and be sure to write or type in uses that they prohibit such as for stock photography or drug companies
  • he advises photographers to be aware of the issue of models not liking the final product
  • the role of vulnerabilities and insecurities, that get amplied and exagerated all over the internet, with almost no way to prevent pirated use
  • a balanced approach to professionalism
  • custom agreements vs cookie cutter templates
  • good templates for model releases from Professional Photographers of America
  • the need to educate your client
  • he advises clients with a brand to protect, and who are in the public eye to form a focus group of 3 people, not their friends but 3 people that represent their target market, get three reps and let them look at your pictures, ask them which ones appeal to them how alot of performers/celebrities pick pictures that don’t relate or connect with their audience, how you have to let them choose the ones the audience will chose are often more authentic, not the photoshop, contrived pictures
  • how he’s thrown out his ideals of what beauty is, he lets his audience show him
  • the challenge of the celebrity instagramer is how to be relevant, how to connect
  • he recommends to stop being contrived, be real, be authentic, stand for something, and let the audience choose what they connect with
  • to open minds to real success and beauty
  • I share the story of the founder of patreon, who advocates creating more and more content because you don’t know which will be the hit, which will song or piece of art will connect
  • he feels that you’re not producing just for yourself, you’re producing for your tribe
  • his clients remember the feeling he gave you, it’s the emotion that was aroused
  • I share how I feel the ethics of representing the divine feminine in art, involve a high level of duty of care for the soul
  • I ask about the economics of photography entreprenueralism
  • he says that everyone now is a photographer with the new phones and new apps, everyone’s a graphic designer/photographer
  • he believes that to stand out you have to stand for something
  • you have ot recognize the waves that are coming because they’re different for every generation
  • he advises not to quit your day job as an artist
  • you should have a coffee shop job
  • every artist has ask themselves, how do you really want to work, what do you really want to do, and find a way to do it
  • at the end of the day, your work must not rob your soul
  • there should be a balance of what brings food on your table and a roof over head, and also what feeds your soul
  • he had to create the market, he recommends creating the market that you would like to thrive in
  • if you have that opportunity, than create that market, if you build something that connects to people, they will come to you from all over the world
  • count the costs and prepare for sacrifices
  • he’s confident that once you walk your path, there will be angels that will open doors, because you will have connected with something greater than yourself as an artist
  • how most artists don’t talk about the money, they talk about the flow, if there’s a good flow, the money will come
  • so find that stream where you will thrive, that will nourish you
  • find that group of people that you can serve
  • we go to school in order to make a living, but they never taught us how to live
  • you have to find out to live as an artist
  • find your angels who can teach you, and guide you along that path
  • each of us has wisdom
  • first find a way to live, then how to make a living
  • i appreciate how he flips the script from starving artist to nourished artist
  • he trusts that by approaching the business in these ways than metaphorically, things will grow in your garden
  • in the spirit of divine feminine he closes with an emphasis on integrity, respect for everything, transparency, kindness, compassion, unconditional love for self and all life, justice, kindness, fairness, awareness of karma, creativity, freedom, spiritualty, sacred geometry and relationships
  • I encourage him to do a guided meditation cd, reminds me of Choa Kok Sui the founder of the Pranic Healing system

 

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin its welcome to Township on podcast episode number 169 I’m being joined by Robert diamond dan and he is an artist image Creator who I discovered through Instagram and that he has done some of the most amazing empowering photo photography and art work with numerous beautiful lowercase G embodiments of the divine feminine goddess and it is always music to my eyes at to see this sort of exaltation of the divine feminine in the Earthly forms and so whenever I see it at a different take note and so I’ve been following his work and and synchronistically for me I’m really at a point where I want to build more alliances and connections and network with folks who are really mastering the art of using cameras for capturing the beauty of nature the beauty of the human body and and Beyond so with that said I’d like to just ask Robert if you could tell us a bit about your the services you provide your kind of background and definitely love to get the story of what brought you into the loving light of the goddess and how you discovered the the joy of service and in various Ways by the way it’s my privilege thank you for having me so I am an image Creator I to photography but I don’t use the camera to document I use it as a means to bring out the inner ideas of women at our individual female empowerment healing positive self-image Beauty sacred sexuality dancers fashion people are people who would love to portray themselves as goddesses on me yeah that is so exciting and lovely and beautiful we need so many more people like you in the world and hopefully you will be one of many as soon as more people embrace your philosophies in in these regards so if you don’t mind could you tell a silly so if I could ask her as far as going back into your personal life history can you tell us what kind of how you evolved into becoming an image artist image Creator see from your website you have a past is a physician so you have an appreciation for the form of the body and just yeah please tell us as much as you like about your your journey since we’re talking about goddesses or treat women as equals or or put them in a highlight beautiful gifts or wonderful gifts that they have I believe that it could be a much better world and also we need to support our the female the family and we can be also as males whole as well and I’ll be home as well so I believe that imagery or images are powerful and honoring our bodies emotions choices and feelings through photography weather in front of or behind the camera I believe that sits sublimely empowering so I’m using that as soon as my medium do provide my service to the community I started as don’t start when I was young my my dad bought me a small camera and he used to have the American photographer magazine lying around and so that’s what got me into it and and and what got me into the goddess thing is I don’t know what you think when you think of a goddess so well for me I think my mother when you think about goddess you think about bet love motherhood fertility and and also if they’ve been associated in mythology with Todd flake War creation and death so all that is what a goddess is interesting and be right about that and so I what got got me into this female honoring God is that I saw my mother you know rice Bob she was started eating out she she had problems serious problems with with my dad. Last day no so she was a single mother taking of us three kids and no problems of finance and I’m even at one point she got cancer but she writes about that all that and she’s a Survivor and that’s what I think a goddess you need is someone who rises above and shows their inner beauty and love their inner qualities do all so anyone can get goddess so that’s that’s where all this is coming from so it’s so beautiful actually I’ve got I’ve done tearing up right now and I’m smiling and tearing up because I just sit so it’s so beautiful to hear that I reference and yeah so going back yuno I feel most of my clients have you seen my Instagram or social feeds that usually there. They’re the performers in the public eye who come to me to provide them with a good portfolio that’s cuz all my lines yeah I love my philosophy and but most of my clients are not models their soccer moms they’re professionals curvy gals over 50 + women cancer survivors like my mom women always wanted to but thought they’d never good and those are my real flying yeah that is really fascinating and I am discovering that more yet reading website here and this is very much again in alignment with them with a lot of my values in the values of this the audience that I’m aware of it sits that we really want to smash the beauty myth and really bring something something hole in holistic into our perception of her beauty and then there’s a lot of people who are fighting even porn addiction and really lost a lot of young men last kind of mutilated form of arrows that’s the abusive imagery so do you want to talk about in from your perspective what it’s like to have this Consciousness and have this Mission and how do you navigate the the industry that the standard and some just curious if you have to kind of put on a a warrior to get through the profession in the industry or if you’re able to just sort of dance through it and just sort of Nino brighten the vibe with your instructions and go you can go different ways you know my industry is is the same way as the sacred feminine or woman goes out and they’re basically for kind so what would I find at in the world and I I use their power to navigate this industry one is the innocent Maiden The Virgin so I go out at 8% in a sentence and a sort of childlike look naturally inquisitive and then there’s the mother the mother type in other words the nurturing I see men hurricane I see women hurting and I take them on and I address their pain first and then we express your pain treatment tree and I see the warrior the enchantress Warrior are the ones who are out in the Battlefront out in the battlefield or just their just power from them and then there’s the wise old woman and they give not only because you may have information you may have date that you may have all this attention from to be but if you don’t have wisdom and how to apply this then it’ll be all for naught so that’s so I value with them and that’s what I find also in some of the swim and and that’s also how I navigate to this industry of objectifying women of corn hand on chest you know going after the lower parts of our existence lower parts of our levels of operating and so I tried to show them that there’s a better way of course there are from either issues let’s take a 4-1 for some of the men nudity is for some it’s a it’s a it’s an expression of Freedom so I I respect both and I try to respect also balls with my with my audience as well so but that’s a fine line I always have to I always have to walk yeah well that is SF Trails been seriously is there such a powerful education in in goddess archetypes in It Is Well with what you were sharing about 2 and then drawing the energy and I’m seeing this very powerful mutually reinforcing and affirming energetic flow that sits like a spiral you know it is yeah yeah yeah if you’re so this is not the words I would you come to me I would shoot you in a different way in a certain way and it would be Mike according to my bread nowadays I threw for the past 2 years the reason why I passed explode it’s because I threw that all the way this time I try to learn more of the person’s Choice Skinner struggles in your pains what have they been gone through and what did they find beautiful what side of them is beautiful and then once I know that that’s what I bring up for and and III realizes that they will use their. That photograph def image for something he was there all the time as their profile pic or after the bring it up once in a while is because they’d be filled connected to it and so yeah so my my my box of the Spiral is that Michael is my challenge time as an artist how can I open the throat so that inspiration can just flow my job is to remove the obstacles and just let it flow and see where it goes. That’s as long as I have my own values that I told you to yeah well so this it sounds like you actually create a very palpable experience of being in the healing sacred container of Consciousness that is about consent and about co-creative and collaborative art and so much communication and so the art of really the Lost Art of men helping women feel safe and sexy and empowered and free at the same time this is so it’s it’s a guy to last and suppress art so what I’d love to know if you have feedback from just the kind of container that you’re creating and that the before-and-after energetically when when a woman has is the ability to be put to a goddess worship Puja of sorts if you will have three of the time I have a you know before they before they come I try to know a lot about them first and then as soon before I click the first shot I have this I create the container saying I tell them what my intentions are I declare my intentions to them and the universe and I and that is my so-called prayer and that is my the meditative operate injury I shoot so usually gets that I used to say I declare my intentions to create imagery that will inspire women to find your inner goddess and rudest images find their true selves the true beauty and this is my attention with that simple thing. Creates a duck. Already unravels a lot of the of the things that comes in to shoot so and so are our interaction now is like a worship of worship of you know a what we can celebrate through our hands together in that tree in that in that moment so so that’s how I open up I like create the shoot for each person that is absolutely Priceless and so so comforting to know and it’s did you put that effort in that sincerity in that virtue and value into it I can tell you yet from experience that that is a gourmet restaurant five star hotel watch beyond University dollar compared to what can be hoes just put it on the negative spectrum of experiences since you can you can with the best intentions it can be a nightmare so I appreciate that you do that in and yes you don’t mind to talk a bit about some of the the technical aspects of the sort of them yeah yeah more more more material aspects I’m very interested now and trying to understand what how you speak about your love of light and Shadow and color and just all of that sort of artsy stuff that that is behind the scenes of behind-the-scenes unit from your phrase the light in the dark shadows yeah so every woman’s experience is different ways in different contexts different settings and it’s not always like it’s sometimes most of the time it has something to do with Darkness or Shadow so you’re not the worst they’re dealing with something they’re struggling with something they’re fine and most importantly you’re trying to find the beauty in it of it all other friends trying to find the meaning and a lot of discussion on that note I I tried to ask ask them what the where they see themselves five years from now so I have an acute or a water westers drug before I ask them what’s your struggle what are you struggling with that’s one of the last questions I’d like to come to you when I get there. Then I have an idea what exactly they’re what kind of elements that they looking for in the in the image and I find I find out the great hydrator process yeah so before the Artistry or the tech technicalities fly I tried to address the sort of the motive the intention of the image the the commission of damage what purpose is it going to serve I try I try to ask that if not I’ll try to offer that ship for is it to excite is it to attract is said to provide healing is said to mirror pain is it to naira. So I have to deal with intention and motivation first before I pick everything happens after that the technicality with that so and usually I work but I shoot the I can shoot them anywhere as she if I’m shot them and everywhere and I can even put I can just put on a white ball are white background Photoshop demand where are specified shoot them where they are where a place outside nature usually where at where do you find the context of their true lives live so it could be a forest it could be the sea it could be a robo in the city so I so yes I I that’s the best way to catch the location and things like that so of course photos are there photographers I I used to I used to use Photoshop I used I use Lightroom mostly all all ended with intention of serving the story the story is number one what is the story about the story that she wants to tell what’s the story we want to tell so story supersedes everything else that everything else yeah so that’s so I know that’s not the technical part of it but that is the major 80% considerations of creating that image I’m seeing in kind of feeling that what you’re doing is kind of a a Fung shui of the atmosphere and the environment so that your it’s the flow of energy that comes from being in a more personalized setting and not just being an a I mean you can wherever you are you can kind of crate that container and so you’re really alive everything to a point where the I bet that I bet and I would love for you to talk about it do you feel like when you set things up that way and you sent you you have the attention of facilitating a story that’s bigger than the technical aspects of things and taking train to do you do you feel that the synchronicities flow and that you have more magical kind of little happy accidents that open up new things is it really magical process or I’m a great believer of what you call this you are brought there for certain beasts and things happen for Speed like for example one time edestus International mall to ship came she came in a day early to San Francisco I am in San Francisco so she came in a day early is it okay I’m ready to shoot them here I said it’s the next day I’m so sorry I said you know there’s a reason why this happened so where are you now she said she was at this place is it okay let’s shoot their let’s shoot their that’s not that’s there’s a reason why this happened and that’s not that’s not how you know drivers build me up. Let’s let’s do what we have and I think that’s why the goddess isn’t that what whatever cards you’re dealt with you play it’s oh so that’s what we did and we ran out of that cave really good in the tree and she was she was very happy about that yeah so so yeah so I’m I’m really I may have a Septa SEPTA Plan for a shoot but IM I’m willing for happy accidents are hot or Serendipity just to come in and my my my challenge to myself is Follow You Follow Follow Follow the White Rabbit where it leads so pleasurable and satisfying and also less frustration yeah less stressful just go with the flow yeah that’s that’s another good thing to talk about my intention for the creative works that I’m engaged in is too I decided a few years ago that I was going to try to hold to a policy that if stress is in the price tag of anything then I’m just going to decide that I want it I’ll have this whatever this baby yeah baby we’re not the not the intended artist to work at a production environment do you want it yeah just talked about how you have you felt because you do you do sounds like you do a combination of your own your own you work for hire as for other so when you talk to other people who are in that high stress high production mode de vie are you able to mitigate that into sir to soften that sounds like you I would imagine that you were able to experience experience that helps me and what are the deliverables what they really want and for what intention I have to ask I really have to see a specialist in advertising they have stuff to tell me who the market is what the product is what what kind of what kind of woman are they trying to Target so once we have that down that Things become much easier and sometimes it’s best if they’re on site so they can say okay that’s great that’s nice I’ll use that yeah so things yeah removing all the obstacles to do that and of course working in the budget I sometimes you know those things might not be no because I have a lot of upcoming stock up so so I take it this job and should take it as a challenge to see if I can deliver especially if we have to save infection style or same same philosophies that yes I would do that so yes but yes I think most of the time it’s the qualifications of the update of the intention of the pieces and also the budget what are they worth Easter budget a sieve what can be delivered under their budget so I also suggest which which part might they might not invest in more so that they can achieve their goals or getting a better location yeah so yeah so but it starts first with their objective yeah I suppose sounds like again you were definitely able to just transform the space in and get through the air like to ask about just what you were if you have tips for a more enlightened way of doing model release agreements and a talent release form and just what I just said to give a little background what I’ve noticed is that as I’ve been kind of exploring the space sort of on my own just that there’s a wide range of different types of terms in contracts and release forms and whatnot and its really sadly in the worst cases which are pretty dominant seems like that it’s the tendency is to release trip a lot of rights away that are non-negotiable and + infinity and + just no no no limits and no causes that would give much agency to a woman to want to be forgotten later or to have you no content removed or or even have the right to to approve the content before it’s published in too, and have her Visions just there’s all kinds of different I believe ways the scene ways and kind of ways that you can be very empowering even into the business contract kind of in the things I’m curious if you apply what you apply in that area and and in the Bible some of the stuff yeah so let me talk to the models who might be listening or thinking to be Manos is that a mother release is really you are released that is she all release that is your release you’re releasing the photographer along with his other assigns that could be the magazine from from from going back to you and asking your permission you can you can put a certain you can don’t be afraid to write down you don’t get a new ship in the pawn shop in the model release or type it in specially if it’s an app weather because sometimes you know you can put their ass I will should not be used for stock photography or should not be used for a drug campaign so yeah so you can eat if you have that choice yet but essentially it is a really you’re releasing the photographer or the creative person to do whatever you’re just lucky and they’re in their clay so once you accept that you do not know the problem is, I see problems are we performers artist performers feel that they are getting you and the old that they own the pictures and that they have final say I give them a lot of leeway but unless it’s written down that you have that kind of relationship unless you commissioned them which is much more expensive actually so yes or performers after Escapade they want to be portrayed they have they have a certain brand to put that if you’re a photographer you tried to get into that I tried to be good nice and run about that few you may or may not what’s your brand down it’s up to you if it will if it if it will serve both of you but with my performers is that the I mean I mean I mean without a really good picture which I know with would be good for magazine or something or any other for a jury selection but they say I don’t like how I look so yeah so subsidy I could be your issue that could be your that’ll be some of your frustrations I stabbed is dealing with with with their wishes and their their ideas yeah off of what is beautiful or what is appropriate for them it’s a complex question I appreciate that you really did cover it from the number of Dimensions really appreciate even the way that you that you put yourself into the perspective and and spoke directly to the different the different stakeholders you interpret in a production and if I can follow up a little bit and just say I can commiserate and I feel that you know it’s what I’ve discovered really is that it is a very very big deal to any human being who has vulnerabilities and insecurities which we all do to have to have yourself kind of Amplified an exaggerated all over now the internet with literally no way to prevent any kind of pirated use of whatever mean there’s some methods of recourse but really it’s it’s it is a big deal to let your likeness loose into the the world out there that the cyber world and then what not end and despite save feeling really empowered about doing something in advance and then life happening in wanting to distance yourself from certain things or just like you’re saying that very simply just feeling you look at the set of photos in and maybe you would have down to very few at a very many because of just feeling like you don’t want to you don’t want to share those things so I thought you had to interesting Dynamic antonym to be not even in any in any other agency I just comes down to on all sides both sides did the photographer’s producers or directors and and models and other other people playing different roles to understand that I think the way I guess the need to be professional and to be in you no compassion and pathetic there just has to be really well defined boundaries in in well written. I just feel like every every production should have its own customized two or three emails back and forth of setting up the terms in it in a healthy way that sets the boundaries and expectations you know for everything and and that isn’t just a cookie cutter template that people just don’t even look at her read and they just pass it all honey you know what I mean so if you have any tips for 4/4 at any of that or we can move on to something else I think we covered the first resources professional photographers of America EPA has good mod have good releases that you can get Getty Images has a great model of 4 releases so you can use any of that but that being said is there a whoever your client is I mean as a as a photographer artist you have to do some education with regards to your client especially in a client that that is in the public eye for intends to be in the public eye for long periods Natural State have a brand so to speak this what I advise them I advise them that form focus group maybe three of three people not their friends but three people that represents their target market so whoever your target market is get three representatives and finally find them and let them look at your pictures let them what I asked asked them. Which one appeals to them because a lot of these performers day they allow this artist celebrities that take pictures which do not relate relate or a connect with your audience you have to let the audience take that and something most of the time because the big shoes are the pictures that are authentic pictures that show a give them a glimpse of who they really are not the Photoshop contrived pictures they want to see that they want to be able to connect with that so that’s the reason why a lot of people can connect with my pictures because I have thrown up my my ideas of what you see is I let I let them all at the people the people make the by audience tell him I know show me that’s why I look into the inside portion I am I looking at the two God method add the the data that comes so I haven’t I have a glimpse of what kind of people but what are they like water. So so I’ll let you kick me in the challenge of every celebrity every every instagrammer is how can I be relevant how can I be how can I connect I say start stop being controlling be real be authentic stand for something and let them choose what they do they connect and that’s a much better much better think I’m making making all this August 8th and Cynthia release forms yeah start by educating them opening their opening their mindset took the real success out there the real Beauty that’s out there that’s possible for them so with that yeah yeah that’s so profound an amazing it’s what the what comes to mind as you’re saying this is that actually I heard a I believe it was a CD Baby independent musician conference that the founder of patreon give a keynote speech at and one of his one of his this points that stuck with me of the monks many the story of his Evolution as a musician making music videos and finding that is content was not satisfactorily monetized on big other big data platforms and so he created patreon basically to serve his own interest to be able to make some people able to tip the creative work cities that he’s done and so that kind of snowballed into this platform that’s in power so many people and one of the points he made that stuck with me so much was it when you talked about how you just need to really Anna paraphrasing but he said you know for musicians this is the device you know the main devices if you just have to continue to produce content and not try to tweak it to Perfection and slow down on making an excuse for music it was like don’t try to make the if you spend too much time in between releases you basically lose attention but but even worse it’s just you don’t you think you know what your number one Smash It track is going to be you know what Elkwood tracks on an album or going to be the the chart Toppers but really you don’t ever know and it could take years to find out so just keep flowing and so I feel like what’s coming to me based on what you said which is a total parallel to that feeling of all only the best images can get through but if you let the clutch you know the crowd or the cloud decide I think that’s a really could be a genius way to help women especially who have the issues of body dysmorphia and all of these I mean I don’t want to even get into it but all of the different vulnerabilities and that that can plague the consciousness of a woman in her relationship to her beauty and two people watching into cameras in an art and everything it’s like if you could just let literally let people vote with some means of some technical means online and say hey this is the most of this set these are the show us the full set and then we’ll tell you where your most where we think you’re most beautiful and you can blame that up with you know where you need maybe it’s like you need love on your on this part of your body and that’s where people felt that so they love you being I don’t know if this is a dynamic thing feedback loop that that was touch down in that that speech and it makes me feel like it’s all about just creating as much caffeine as you can and you let the organic process of your fans kind of uphold what they find most glorious are beautiful or best sounding if it’s sticker whatnot so yeah engage shot engage your audience engage your target market get your fans cuz yeah you’re not producing just for yourself for juicing for your tribe and it’s red California you know you have to have to be done with this the wave where the wave when the waves come in you have to learn to serve it yeah I should be washed out on the Rocks yeah yeah so so it’s keeping her your whole census open to input and feelings yeah because the same thing with my clients and my audience is that I focus on the feeling yeah because whoever whether your client or a fan or someone. What what you remember is the feeling that I that I gave you it’s not it’s not the awesome technical saying that I did it’s the feeling that I gave you the motion that that was a roast in you and so the more eccentric you are the more the more you can sense to speak in a long list the inner desires yeah then then you’ll be able to engage and connect with your audience and also with with the performance well how can they connect with your audience as well beautiful also I think we got really really well into some of the ethics some of the not technically legal advice but some of the advisement around you know the really just being in good standing with the with the divine feminine this is Christmas Eve a l l go to greatest whatever the man’s law is I guarantee you it’s nowhere near as punishable and strict as certain of the the what I felt to be the strict guidelines of the divine feminine and I’ll leave it at that but it’s a higher level of Duty of care for the stove if you’re getting into this you know for sure of not being part of this conveyor belt of commodification that were involved in as an industrial society so it shines it shines through the work you’re doing this the voice that you have I can’t believe now we’ve already gone through most of an hour but I just want to ask you if you if you could spend a few more minutes to talk a bit about something I’m very curious about which is sort of the the economic ecosystem that you have quite a highly developed a sort of bird’s-eye view of with your level of experience in and your workload do you have and everything so for people who are nuby starting out in this the field of let’s say being you could say you’re a digital artist your portrait artist I don’t know exactly what all the categories you’ll find yourself in but as I’m seeing I guess I’m noticing around around on Instagram what not there’s people who are making a decent living even if just to patreon and NN other gigs were they might shoot weddings or they might shoot products or whatever I’d love to really know the sort of behind the scenes of a in the industry of the say that you just photography as an industry our people our people hacking through and making a living and doing independent freelancing and just the state of the industry I don’t know if that’s that’s I know it’s a huge question but I’m just curious if you could give us a little behind the scenes of how I guess the pie chart really of of what people do to stay afloat with their brands and their businesses from the product from the photographer visual artists are things okay so that’s a very very important question but first I go back to that surfing thing about step trans are happening in intense rapping in the industry where which you have to be aware of and if you want to create your Niche or create a state where you can thrive in it then you have to learn one is the trend stop everyone now so photographer with the new phone sending you have everyone is a graphic designer everyone’s a photographer so what will make you stand out is that yeah you have to you have to stand for something you have to stand you have to recognize the way that’s coming and it’s different for every generation some generations are big but the thing is they don’t really have money some generations are small but they do have money so what you should do is should have something where that was your Starbucks job you know that the job that you know that will give you some money just putting hours in it so every every artist at Starbucks jobs have that and then from there try to get a feel for that and try to come try to come up with something that really is you the question that you have to ask yourself first is how do you really want to work what do you really want to do and do it I know it’s Easter simply that I said than done but the thing is that’s huge cuz it’s not you’re still not saying make an excuse why you can’t do find a way to do it but they have to be you have to work at it it’s not easy but you have to work at it if it mustn’t Rob your soul from your penis that’s me some people you know performing in different ecosystems that’s fine everyone is different but I’m sure everyone that everyone there should be a balance of what brings food in your table and a roof over your head and also what feature so so I tried to find a way where it’s a path that will happen sometimes my case I did not I did not look at the Mark that say okay mister Market I had to create the market so create the market that you would like to try it in that if you have if you have that opportunity then create a pocket yes if you if you build something that’s that connect people they will come to you from all over the world so so yeah so yeah stand for something yeah and then do the do the do the financial work count the cost at the cost in order to pursue that and it’ll be something there may be some sacrifices that maybe but there’s nothing I walk into your in your past there will be angels that will that will open doors your way because you you have you have Kinect read something or something greater than yourself so so yeah so that that’s that’s what I can say as an artist and they don’t talk about the money I don’t know I don’t know maybe it’s just me but they don’t talk about the money but they talk about the flow if there’s a good for the money will come the money will come up there. Just you just have to find the flow find that stream where find extreme where you will Thrive at the Panera shield and find a group of people that’s real that you can serve and yeah so that’s the that’s my I am I’m sorry I’m sure there are there are there are there are there what’s called this other things will deal with the economics of it and the business aspect of it but because we go to school in order to learn how to make a living but they never taught us how to live right so likewise you have to know you have to find how to live as an artist you have to find out for yourself and find your it your angels who can teach you can guide you along that path and empty box yet each of us has wisdom that we can impart to each other and each each other to that first day of first find a way to live next how to make a living from the bottom of my heart and I’m sure any listener who is hurt more than one or two episodes of this podcast are going to know that without a doubt you are a huge angel wings being brought to help to bring shed this light of Consciousness and awareness into it the other people who who are really on the front lines of confronting the shadow of a lot of things that have to do with imagery have to do with portrayal of women and and all that so I feel that I hundred percent 100% of concur with being in the zone for good and whatever that cause being that’s what you you pursue in the flow like you said surfing the flow of abundance he will be a nurse artist and not a starving artist so creative process that involves other people and uplifting way and you will be golden and so yeah that’s the real currency oh yeah yeah things are growing a garden things will grow in your garden and I don’t think you can top it with those best last words for now if you like to give your website and yeah let people know how they can connect with you how they can book you for for shoots and how they can follow your work I would love to help promote everything that you’re doing yeah just Google my name Robert domondon all o c o m o n d o n n it will point you to all my websites and all my work in the interwebs so that’s my thing and feminine I I hope that I would like to re-emphasise the values of Integra the respect for everything transparency kindness compassion unconditional love for self and all life just is fairness, creativity freedom and spirituality sacred geometry or relationships and that’s that’s what I would like to bring out there and hopefully you can relate to that and that’s we can work together beautiful will one of these days we’re going to have to give you some background music for meditation CD Reformation CD got to have it I love it yet and you’re one of my my greatest spiritual spiritual Heroes choa kok Tsui the founder of the pranic healing system but big residents there so I appreciate that you send us off with a beautiful prayer and and I thought you couldn’t have talked to you at the last passwords but you you certainly did I appreciate it thank you so much you know we’re going to we’re going to leave these metaphors and and get some beautiful work done so I will be in touch with you and we will definitely continue the journey and I’m sure sooner rather than later we’ll be there would be a budget that brings us together from the projects that I’m kind of manifesting so I will see you in a more beautiful now troll beautiful future thank you been my pleasure also all right you have a great night take care take care, and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple I provide ecological an appointment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Archer Park. 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Activating Kundalini Blockchains with Crypto Psychedelic Artisan Nanu Berks TPP140

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In this episode I’m joined by Nanu Berks for a discussion about her role as a prominent artist and cultural ambassador for the crypto-currency and blockchain movements.  I discovered her great works from her deeply enlightening and empowering video from the recent Anarchopulco conference.

When she shared about her involvement in the Crypto Psychedelic conference I felt compelled to reach out and invite her to be a guest on the podcast to talk about the intersection of these diverse multi-dimensional fields of spiritual and technological development.

Her candid story of personal transformation and financial liberation through art and crypto provides a heroic dose of optimism that I believe will serve humanity very well as we all learn to navigate the new economic paradigm.

Please connect with her at:
http://nanuberks.com/

About Nanu

Nanu Berks loves “connecting humans to each other in creative ways

Originally from Argentina, she currently works as a full-time artist & crypto cultural arts ambassador in the city of Austin, traveling often for global collaborations.

Nanu has a writing background in Tech/AI/Communication, and enjoys “sharing information about the blockchain evolution through experiential art”

Ask her about Crypto Murals, and 5 senses social experiments.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 140 I am totally blessed right now to be joined by nanu Berks who is the blockchain artist and crypto cultural Ambassador and I discovered her online I was watching a videos from Omar at cryptos news and he was doing interviews with Folks at the recent anarchapulco Gathering which is Libertarians liberty-minded folks anarchists of all stripes and anarcho-capitalist crypto psychedelics all kinds of folks all all there together and I wish I could have been there but it was great to see his coverage of it but then in the suggested videos right after his came up nanu Berks and she gave sort of a debrief on the experience and also got really deep in this amazing just personal insights about really what it means to be alive and it’s time of such great technological opportunity and and also I noticed that she has played a pivotal role in the recent crypto psychedelic Gathering which I was even more thrilled to know about and so I just had to ask for her to join this podcast and tell us all about this amazing work that’s happening and how she’s really been instrumental in bringing more Visual Arts and more Cultural Arts into the technology space of crypto and you know really it’s we all we all need each other so with that said Narnia thank you so much for joining me and please tell us a bit about your background how did your personal life story lead up to you play me some beautiful rolls because so far I’ve been doing a lot of behind-the-scenes work and it feels really exciting but the more I hear about people wanting to connect and understand what this movement is about the more it makes me understand that my role is growing in different ways so I guess I’ll start by saying I used to be you know I was born in Argentina and I moved to the states officially when I was 13 years old I didn’t know English and it was a really Rocky time Argentina Argentina history as far as a financial situation yeah we had the crashes of 02 and 08 in the bank so all my mother’s money like savings we had no shoes no food moving to my grandma’s house is kind of crazy and so when I started backpacking full-time I got that full-time for about 14 years on and off living out of a backpack I really hated money man I was against money I was a full-on an artist based on all the wrong definitions of what energy or energy as a means you know I was trying to live outside of a system repelling anything and everything that had a structure and it was great to find my Spiritual Awakening but it wasn’t very useful as far as bringing change 4th so I’m learning a lot and I you mentioned that a little bit on the video I’m learning a lot about how to make change from within and being a constructive interest in this system that’s so awesome yes so when I saw you speaking that video and you’re talking about the 2nd of the crypto psychedelic conference you want to talk about how that all came about in and that’s just the most exciting most thrilling combination of words ever to exist in the universe it’s been found myself as a corporate hippie corporate bridge and a lot of my friends call me that the hippie Corporate Ridge I work for Samsung and Segway and and Novartis by medical and then I worked in all these startups and in hippie you know I’ve lived a hippie lifestyle and cams for two months at a time and attend all the stuff and and when I first heard about crypto psychedelic I was intuitively very excited about it I said you know hell yeah let’s bring people from all walks of life into the same container to experience what it’s like to talk about psychedelics in a very informed the matter with people from maf’s who are incredible at meeting the government where they’re at and getting things approved and passed in a way that’s rational that we can look for funding for MDMA research for depression and PTSD and let’s also have crazy outliers you know I’m people that are making documentaries about what it’s like to experience toad medicine or Ayahuasca and let’s bring in people who are crypto Centric that have nor blockchain enthusiasm have no idea what psychedelics are and let’s bring together the artist who are already very awakens and excited about connecting with this blockchain technology as a vehicle for Change and also is bringing everybody else in the middle who feels like they want to be a part of this movement but they don’t know quite how to interact with this face and so that was my first excitement about crippled psychedelic however they had to be totally honest and I’m embarrassed about this but I think it’s important to mention when I was at I was in Miami at the North American Bitcoin conference when I was still kind of trying to figure out my role and how I was going to I have been helping planning and co-producing the the Psychedelic events from afar you know from within the internet world but I was trying to figure out exactly how it was going to get there how we were going to do all these things and the feedback that I was hearing from the very corporate and kind of Moore Square people in the blockchain space was listen if you want that should be a freestyle rap we can do that at the end so if he’s not that I was receiving was listen if you want this to be mainstream you cannot use the word psychedelic in the title like you need to brand a little bit bigger a little bit wider if you want people to take you seriously in a little bit of fear and me wanting to merge those two worlds came through until I email the core team member these amazing people from symposia and you know from the sensor net and and I said hey you know the feedback I’m hearing from people is that crippled psychedelic might not be the right brand even though I love those two words together you know and pretty much nobody answer that email because obviously I had a huge blind spot about something but that my intuition was totally aligned with the begin with and so nobody answer that we have planning the the event it was insane mind blowing and everything anyone could hope for and I think the more we do these events like anarchapulco and Crips like I like the more we realize that there’s there is a need for these Wellness seminars in mind expansion containers to be a part of the blockchain movement and I’ll just be bickering conferences or token tests or things like this and it’s even so confess that I’m going to be live painting at in San Francisco March 15th and 16th I mean they reached out to me I don’t really know how how they heard about me but the word is getting out where they say okay yeah we have these amazing speakers and conferences and let’s talk about tokens and money and Fiat currencies but how do we bring mine expansion and interactive interesting feelings into this as well and so I just wanted to mention that because it was so funny how I thought for a minute there we had to change the whole branding off Edwin really that’s that’s exactly it you know that’s the challenges explain to people that psychedelics is not a bad word and that it has there is room for for that word in the blockchain space and in the research movement and in the mainstream media and that we need to heal whatever trauma and resistance we have to the plant medicine world do you know exactly yeah well I think most people now know that the founders of most of the internet and computer technology we take for granted now we’re all outspoken acid heads and you know in that during that time and really that’s it’s and it’s such a beautiful and important Legacy and history to reclaim so yeah I’m proud of y’all for representing you know what the p word and and I honestly when I when I first saw that those words and I’m very deep in the you know what my own personal shamonica transformational journey and I’m a big fan of maps and all of that good work and consider myself to be a kind of outline Rogue you know researcher that contributes how I can but but the real huge massive wealth transfer is happening into the hands of mostly a well don’t know if it’s mostly but there is a lot of young fresh Talent from the millennial coding sort of computer science geek world that are just literally sitting on tens of hundreds of millions of dollars in and they’re just instant Angel Investors in a rolling funds and capital back into more projects and I would just love to see there be a really dedicated group of people who are who are really not soliciting those people but creating inviting those people into the arms of Mama Aya and into the you know these the ceremonial containers that are helping to create nonviolent communication and create Foster more of a of a synergistic collaborative environment because you pretty are you pretty well-versed in just the whole very spiritually kind of disastrous history of the Bitcoin block size debate and how that just is totally splintered and derailed so much momentum in that yeah the massive amounts of energy that it takes to mine Bitcoin even though that you know the amount of banks in the amount of energy to other Banks take is much larger and so it’s all connected and there is of course when people come to me unless they will Bitcoin is not the solution and who do you think started this we don’t even know who Satoshi is and of course you know I have these concerns as well and there’s good and evil in every part of a movement however we cannot ignore how tremendous I like how incredible this this piece of technology could be or is 4 hour change us here in humidity in in evolution of the healing of the planet and so it’s of course is going to have light and dark in on everything does and I have a few things in mind from what you just said one my own psychedelic Journey has been really really feeling and I call myself the microdosing Ambassador because I hear all these people talking about macro Doses and I have drink Ayahuasca in a couple occasions and it has been very very healing for me but at the same time or end the same time I have found the most healing for my depression with micro doses of psilocybin and that has been better than anything else I have tried and I have learned how to do it on my own and a very ritualistic in a responsible way and so I have a message but I guess I’m being I feel like I’m being called to speak this for a lot of people that might be a little resistant and I know your audience is probably very inclusive and accepting but if you are a person out there who may be feels threatened or scared or not completely sold on these microdosis it’s totally okay and just as beautiful to try to dip your toes wherever you feel comfortable and just experienced having the plant Spirit within you and just trying a microdose of something and then seeing what that does for you whether it’s even you know passion flower tea that is relaxing for you or is CBD oil or anything any anything in the plant spectrum that could heal you in some way you know because I think that’s that’s the missing information out there we were too but putting these documentaries out and and Everybody’s Talkin about Ayahuasca and I both of which are so powerful and beautiful but there’s also so many little ways to get introduced to this and Amor ya in a more compassionate and in Safeway to Safeway to yourself you know if you don’t want to jump right into the deep end like there’s no right or wrong you know when it comes to trying this thing that’s a great point I could see a parallel also with just getting into crypto you know they say you know only only invest 10% of your savings and you know start small and and really get to know the technology before you take huge risks with this or another. So do you want to talk about for the people who may have heard about the conference or maybe just hearing about it now the crypto psychedelic conference could you kind of give us a recap or yeah just what are we missing what what can we look forward to I am hoping that it’s planning to be an ongoing thing conference started as this kind of joke or a play on words with Matt mckibbin he wanted to celebrate his 1 billionth second on Earth and his birthday and it’s a little ball thing you know there’s a lot of pieces of information that I don’t have people that connected with people and then eventually Woodside it’s a really throw a big party and then it was a celebration and then was a conference and then we had speakers and then we connected at two different houses in raising awareness for maps and I’ve been wanting to collaborate person live with maps seriously for the last five years I can find trying to find a way into just collaborate with them somehow and it’s been so beautiful being able to make art for them to do auction and fundraise in Austin and into the room and just going to think to them at a personal level and see beyond the white papers in the research and everything that is online meeting these humans that are real level and so it was beautiful to have a space where we’re all of these scientists and enthusiasts and experimenter came together with the crypto world and trying to make connections to fund these different fathers because as you said the the fact that we have so many new avenues of energy in the form of a monetary New York coin or crypto warm where we can support and sustain different projects and in the fact that all of his wealth is in the hands of people that are very open-minded it is so so beautiful and it cannot be taken for granted and so there’s a lot of different pools from from one side and the other you know I think there’s so many parallel sides you said we would psychedelics and with the blockchain onboarding from the micro investing in micro investing to the micro and macro those to the eagle really being tested because once you start getting traction and fame and recognition in money and or Fiero currency orb of power and wealth in any of these ways the eagle resurfaces you know and it says Hey I want to be hurt or I have you said yes or I am valued in this and I noticed it on my own without the very very insignificant level so I can’t even imagine the people that I’m not being in the spotlight you know in front of millions of people and so I feel like I have the awareness at least you to kind of monitor that and hopefully I have enough good people in my life that I always ask please call me out when I lose track you know when I catch the ego and I lose track of what I’m doing and what’s important but I do think there’s quite a few parallels and so all these topics came up in conversation when we were at Christmas I could I like we had a a couple panel discussions about what Maps is doing how they’re integrating into the government and you know getting things past and so much about the effort tremendous effort that they’re putting into into aligning with with the with the government in a way that makes sense to get these plant medicines approved and then getting being short on budget you know doing 10 years of research and policy and all this stuff and then not enable to clear it because of a lack of funds so that is insane that there’s so many people behind this movement that it’s proven again and again how much like medicine can help us fight depression in or solving no deal with drama and then that they would not be able to pull the last year because of a lack of funds when abundance is so so available to us you know so it was beautiful to see that and to hear the the antagonist perspectives as well there was different couple panels that were edgy to say the least and they were a few discussions you know people be completely opposing views and it was beautifully handled everybody listen to each other and and and then those those little bursts of energy in conversation provided the platform that must be it for other people to have their own discussions in beautiful Paradise by also being conscious of wealth and the lack of their off for the local community it was just it was such a such a container for 4 a.m. lightening conversations of all sorts and to give light to the ignorance that we all carry as well you know yeah well it sounds so beautiful and amazing and I’m seeing another kind of weaving together of these it’s I’m seeing is double helix between the equipment because there’s there’s often sort of interesting kind of false dichotomy of the shamanic path way of making you sick or making plant medicine is more available and accessible through the like a religious framework or just a screw the man we’re going to do whatever we got to do to heal herself and there’s the the more official and regulated secondary research end of things and really everybody is sort of him somewhere between and kind of it helps to find that this Common Grounds and I still hate to see the same thing between the hyper crypto anarchists cypherpunk strands within the crypto movement and those who were pushing for regulation for Mass adoption and so that’s another interesting interesting yeah absolutely and I’m a big fan of of saying you know we need everybody everybody on the Spectrum and for some reason it’s been pointed out to me that I’m good at connecting with 80% in the middle you know there’s there’s a hyper technical people all the way at the end of the spectrum there’s the early adopters which in a way I’m a part of it as well and then there’s this yeah the massive amounts of people in the middle of that are Cheerios or mad or angry or confused and how do we bring everybody together and so it’s so important that it ended up medicine world and within the Crypt the world and in all of these massive Evolution waves we have everybody acting on it and so there is enough room for everybody who feels like making videos are creating content to interview people to put content out there there’s enough room for everybody to be at these different conferences there’s so many little ones spreading out biting everywhere so it it’s it’s kind of weird because being inside of this movement so many times I feel like the market is oversaturated for what I want to do and then I forget right that it that we are pioneering this this thing and so it’s it’s a back-and-forth elastic you know dance constantly off of self-worth and looking at yourself as a person and your own Evolution and then connecting it to too large to what really matters you know so it’s it’s been so mind-blowing I’ve never I guess after anarchapulco that’s when I really realized what crypto psychedelic was the first wave when I came back to Austin and I read the sign the logo that our friend Jake designs for crypto psychedelic is a I don’t know if you saw it on the website is like this mushroom that has a circuit board kind of got it tattooed because to me that whole experience Mark the beginning of the rest of my life and I know it sounds so crazy but it was just one of those conferences When Everything feels right and Everything feels like we’re standing on the edge of something so massive and then going to another computer right after that connected all the rest of the engine dogs to me how much this crypto blockchain movement is the seventies Evolution movement and is everything that we’ve been fighting since the beginning you know it’s just freedom and is decentralization of power and is compassionate love and acceptance isn’t it’s all the same thing yes LOL awesome so now you’re you’re do you want to talk about your your creative Works to art that you do and Me Rollin and whatnot is his very interesting exciting to me I would love to understand more about what we really are playing in that in those respects on the street making music painting and I was a lot more egotistical than I am now a lot more naive in a lot less compassionate and you know I was growing I was 18 when I was in the thick of it at backing and I can’t believe the crazy stuff that I was doing back then just walking up to people and saying you need a miracle here I’m going to paint a I want you and just how with my mind I could make so many things happen with my heart as well but it was very mind driven and now I’m starting to realize how I can do the same things just leaving from my heart center you know and having it connected to send so many things that are bigger than myself and so I did that for a long time backpacking and then I went High corporate and working in all these corporations learn about PR and branding and for the last year-and-a-half before before this year so last year I basically you work as an independent consultant for small Brands and startups in big Brands and technology for rebranding their whole the whole strategies basically you know and then here I am doing the same exact thing that I was doing when I was a free spirit anarchists living Barefoot traveling the world and so it’s really funny and satisfying see it. Oh we’re now I’m here making music and painting mirror but now is so much more aligned and with more resources and energy directed in a way that is that is just more useful for everybody so I hope to continue learning and I feel very thankful to be in connection with the people that you know that I have been meeting the whole crypto art murals is for me away to be known as a writer at hard and the writer as a trade putting out content in a written way is really useful but it doesn’t reach everybody if you don’t have internet and you don’t know how to read you’re not going to get this information and so painting a mural in a community where the Arts is available to everybody and you can just stand in front of it and be curious feel sad feel happy feel whatever it is and ignite your curiosity for your own research that is insanely powerful and I know that because I have cried in front of murals I have taken pictures in front of murals at that made me realize something about myself and that is one aspect right of the that the massive big scale Arts that can that can provide a message for an entire community and then the other half is supporting these artists you know myself and then everybody else who I see struggling so much to do what they love and they’re so good at it and and disciplined enough wealth in the right hands is an opportunity for us to fill up every single block of the chain you note for the artist to paint if that’s what they want to do the visual artist want a fan or the artist want to make music or the artist who wants you to create experiences that are interactive and then for the people who are good at managing and just love discovering and helping and connecting to do just that and do not have to do all the other things and for the web developers to develop their websites and it’s just he just amongst my own friends and connections here how much energy and time we’re wasting by not working together and so the more people I meet in the blockchain crypto or are crypto blockchain connection space the more I want to all of us to do our shows in crypto shows together because it makes no sense for everybody to be spending their energy resources in in building a website if you hate building a website you know like if you want to paint just paint and then we’ll find people to build a website for you and and I encountered a lot of people fear based in this space who are all about competition and want to do and they don’t want anything to do with other brands and then I encourage I mean I’ve encountered so many more people on the collaborative side and that’s where an archipelago that’s where it what I felt that are not a couple, but I felt like I like people were down to connect and they said yes to all the projects and let’s get on a phone call and it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from if you want to help and it aligns let’s do it you know and that is really refreshing and I think that’s the way the Psychedelic or open-minded or meditation more expensive way of looking at this movement awesome God you want to talk more about just practicing meditation and what sort of how your your spiritual processes and maybe tips you have for people who are coming into here wanting to participate in this technology space and an actually starting to you know they say the first time you start to have some actual games in your cryptocurrency portfolio than I can say from experience I just want to give my life to the movement because it’s changed my life so much and I want to just be in service but I’m not a coder and I’m not really I’m kind of a wannabe geek so imagine making this cultural Ambassador you know doing that like if we were talking about him in franchising people you have said yes to Justin tips about what it’s like to be adapting to this new I mean you’re providing a platform for people to express themselves and you’re finding people like me who you know I’m nobody in this world and at the same time I very I feel like I’m a very important piece of the puzzle and I haven’t always felt that way my own SoCal you wasn’t where it’s at and I you know I need the others and you need the others and so you already doing so much and I really appreciate you reaching out and wanting to give a voice to people like me who maybe you’re not on the you know I feel like I’m behind the scenes a lot and now you can’t necessarily reach out to to you know I don’t know bigger a larger what it’s called platforms and say Authority terribly I need to speak on this or be on a panel specifically and yet at the same time so many opportunities like this have presented themselves to me like being on humans of Bitcoin or the libertarian Radio free talk live or your show and so many others and so it’s it’s such a beautiful synchronous synchronicity how we all find each other and I’m being hard open to supporting each other and that’s what it’s all about so to me when people ask me what is a blockchain artist what makes you a crypto artist or what how can I get involved in this way if I don’t have any coding skills or if I don’t have any if I don’t feel like a nerd at hard or any or if I don’t have any connection the truth is that most of the people that are even curious about this movement or that believe in Freedom are already a part of this movement you know what I mean and it’s just lack of Education or lack of information and lack of system or container though it’s being created right now and so anything that you care about and if you respect freedom and the evolution of humankind through compassion and love that is blockchain with me and I know it sounds really extreme for some people but it’s really is I mean if your yoga teacher you can download and secure whatever wallet of your choice I love Edge they you know they just upgraded to their shape-shifting converting application which I didn’t have before and I just downloaded it and it’s my favorite wallets I always recommend that you use in a hot while they’re on your phone you can just download something like that in three seconds and all of a sudden your yoga teacher who takes crypto you know what I mean it in Seoul I’m in this is what I do at my my events like that we have the exist festival.com for South by Southwest and is not an official South by event is a disruptive one because even though I love songs by and I painted a giant mural for South by that’s going to be showing at the Expo Center for Austin Rodeo I love what they’re doing so many ways they’ve also turn down quite a few female speakers for the blockchain panel and I don’t know enough about what they’re doing and I’m sure there’s reasons why everybody dusted the things I do but I think it’s important to set up other events are outside of the you know of the gates of South by in the rules and so on so that’s what we do at our events you know we set up a men’s where where we can bring in a bunch of artists who have never heard of a crypto before or who are interested in it and teach him how to download a wallet and then make their sales are there vending whatever they’re running t-shirts and arts and whatever in crypto in there you got like that’s all it takes so when I get on an Uber or Lyft or Rideshare I asked them if they take crypto and they look at me like I’m crazy then I showed them how to download the wallet and then I took them in crypto and when I go to any any local shop or any restaurant I just automatically always ask do you take pepto and they just look at me confused and then they ask and then I tell them and so it’s just word of mouth and that’s it very small way in which and how we can educate each other just ask about it as if it’s part of your normal life because to me and to you it is you know and so the more people we have on the system to better that easier we’re all going to to evolve within this I don’t know if the answer is exactly the question who want to just be ya be a part of the movement and and adapt and actually alter reality one day at a time just with whatever means you have you know yeah that’s exciting is that you know I’ve had I’ve had a similar kind of weather journey of just wanting to onboard friends and just get people excited about it and really the best way to do it is just to get them started with some in just a few or I’m going to split the mule and give you your you know percentage of Crypt or whatever and and that just gets that gets the party started for for anybody and I see why you’re talking I was imagining they’re being a i y bet there’s got to be some art galleries in the world that just give what is QR codes on every piece so in case you don’t want to buy it you can just tip the artist while you’re there be a white of all the art that I’m so like thrilled to behold in my eyes when I go to an art gallery I would go in there with a budget to tip all the all the artist that I thought really blew my mind you know that’s a whole number and thank you for saying that because I seriously have been wanting to make a video on this for so long thank you for reminding me I want I want all the spray paint artist mural is due to get a QR code stencil and so many times that I’ve been moved by a mural and I yeah you can buy it and you can buy a piece by the artist I’m just freaking said man like $1 a hundred people $1 and then you go home and the artist girl out in the world like how insanely amazing about education if nobody told me that I could do better if I wasn’t a part of this movement I would not have either. So yes I think every Gallery should have a key or code next to their pieces for sure and hopefully work making it easier and easier to have these things be more accessible and just like you said you know split a meal and pay in in crypto just like you would do with venmo or PayPal is very easy and another thing that I think is important to mention is that at first when Bitcoin came out in the early adopters now that Bitcoin was more like a Welsh holding system and still now you know it’s people assume that that you have to have a lot of money to get into crypto but I love the people at and dash dash people talked about this a lot and then cash and Litecoin you don’t fast transaction this is a system that I believe in I’m so tired of using Banks and I’m so tired of using Fiat I don’t want it anymore so I don’t actually hold its on a crypto I’m not at a point where my Abundant Life reflects in my in my wallet but I do get to use crypto every day to do my everyday things and every time a little more and so even if you just want to download a wallet and put 10 bucks into either or 10 bucks into like going or Dash or whatever your favorite currency is just put it there and do nothing with it and check it again in a month and see what happens or just how about you don’t have something like $100 and whenever you go do something if they take crypto you can transfer that and just start really small it’s it’s such a mountain of information that I can be very overwhelming I sign up for a steaming a couple a couple weeks ago and I’ve heard about steemit for for those of you who don’t know it’s a platform like it has all these different channels you can blog writing you can put up videos it’s basically a decent realized turn off all the social media that we use today so right now if you comment on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter or Instagram you don’t get paid for your value and reviewing people’s content but on steemit you basically get rewarded for being an active member of the community you get paid for voting for curating and you can receive a lot of steam power and crypto money basically for producing good content that is useful to people and it cannot be tamed innocence other than by the users and the population and so it’s a really amazing system in everyone’s use it for a long time but I was kind of intimidating by it finally I made an account into two and a half weeks to clear which is insane and and I’ve been getting super overwhelmed with learning how to use it and I just try to continue to watch one video day and do little things at a time and in no time I’ll be an expert you know that’s all it takes so just I hope that people don’t get over Round And if you’re curious just continue learning just a little bit at a time you don’t have to be an expert overnight exactly. I’m glad yes team is amazing and probably going to totally crush it on there just is it doing writing published his stuff it’s been specially in the crypto space is people that it’s amazing some of the mounts you can get off of that and it shows you how big data is really extracting so much value from users of platforms and it’s it’s it’s not going to be long before just because it’s free means that you just give them all your data and sign away the property rights and all that stuff is is going to be replaced by this micropayment ecosystems where people can support each other you know value in the content that they consume and and being really well well supported in and I think it’s going to do the asking to do a lot of amazing some of her friends yesterday we were talking about all them you know thousands of jobs disappearing as robots take over and Singularity and all the stuff and at some point in my life I was really concerned about this you know yet where are aliens off drivers truck drivers going to go when we have also if driving cars do you know all the stuff but the answer is blanching all these people will be doing things in blockchain I will be getting paid well for it and it’ll take less time and I mean from the Tim Ferriss 4-Hour Work Week on and everything. Having high developments off technology and be more efficient with our time does not mean that we is not does not need to be scary you know there’s a lot of stuff within fast Evolution that is that is concerning to me specially how fast were developing and growing and how our security initiatives are not all the party yet and I think we’re getting there so there’s a lot of concern of course but anyting however I don’t think that we all really grasp or we’re starting to now how how much we really don’t have to work 90 hours a week or whatever the ridiculous things we do you know that the whole point of this is that micro payments and micro contributions from everybody involved will react what time for us to to be humans to exist to just let me know this is such an interesting new development in the sort of f have that imprint of a techno dystopia since childhood from all the Sci-Fi and I watched it and then you know you imagine this world where humans are made up sleep by robotic technology and Ai and I’ve been pretty sure that those prospects especially now is drones of coming to the picture and now I really feel like it as of this moment this kind of is really the undeniable presence in the now of both of those dystopic seems coming coming nauseous to come to life but coming into existence but then as you’re saying which is actually so Redemptive for sheep the human soul is that like she was an example something might you might have some thoughts on as far as empowerment but it’s like the the sort of this myth of the scarcity of worthwhile productive labor that can be done with from picking up trash to planting trees to cleaning up toxic waste like through the blockchain micropayments and sort of micro temporary employment contracts that can really enfranchise all the homeless people to get a micro crypto payment without actually showing up and waiting in line to get in the welfare program or get into a you know some sort of job placement program you can just be like you know you show up on the there’s some spill like a whip there’s some kind of cleanup has to happen and people can just mop it and and have day labor crypto payments and there will really never be a gap between meaningful work and and fair pay and there’s plenty of wealth in the crypto world alone to finance stuff like that and even if you know whether it’s through a nonprofit system or through taxes done I mean I’m not going to endorse taxes in general but but you kind of know what I’m saying so how do you feel about that you feel like that’s the direction we’re going to go and there are so many projects that have mind-blowing for example the green miners are looking into mining basically with all green energy from turning trash into clean energy so that things like Bitcoin mining don’t have to take resources as we know them now and there are so many projects in the space for cleaning up the oceans and cleaning up the air and I’m bringing food to the right places and replanting trees and replenishing the soil I mean there if you think of any good initiatives going on in the world for every single one of them there is at least one crypto person who is trying to intercept and connect and there are some barriers you know like the the extreme hippies and I don’t mean that in any negative or positive connotation specifically just outside another word to use like the Crypt on earth and the cryptic Crypt of hippies and all these people like hippies like me back in the day when I when I was in Turkish hippie confused and all of this integrating technology and really scared of it I never imagined in my life that I would be here talking about technology I like but at the same time I see like you said you know how directly this has impacted my life I live a better life I can eat better food because I have my bills taken care of more often because I am connecting projects that feed my soul in that feed my pocket and and it’s just it’s just acknowledge he’s not going anywhere so yes hearing drones zooming around in the air concerns me especially there’s no privacy laws about this and I’m sure I am in plenty of videos just public random videos of people have of course all that is concerning to me but at the same time if I can get drones to massively plant trees and water them creating on cleaning water and stain of away and replenishing the Salt Lake of course I want that also so it’s a fine balance you knowing yeah there’s just there’s just so many opportunities and I’m a very hopeful first person you know and Technologies not going anywhere in the craziest disasters are going on in the world are very real and I’m very aware of my privilege and I’m honored for just being able to be a voice and a part of this movement in any way but if you are truly concerned if you’re a person sitting there and you are really really against technology my best advice to you is to get involved you know what I mean just get involved and make sure that our our moral compasses are still true and that our time is being used efficiently because while I think it’s piercing experiencing abundance is a really healing thing for our communities that happen monkey trained into scar City and fear so I think that having lavish parties in exotic places when they are led by the right Compass when we’re doing no trash Left Behind when we’re also feeding and in helping those communities those are beautiful experiences I think also it’s very easy to fall into the you know greedy egotistical side of things and so we can be people on the sidelines criticizing this movement or we can just Dive Dive Right In whichever way feels comfortable to you and try to help from within you know absolutely yeah amazing so do you want to take can you talk a bit about you know obviously not to be tokenizing but I was really thrilled to know that Amanda B Johnson is the spokes person for Dash and they have a sort of a in the dash consensus system they’re they’re holding their whole their whole technological platform on the basis of it there’s money allocated in there sitting there a crypto economic ecosystems to support people in in roles as delegates and Advocates and Educators and I’m I’m wondering if you have some thoughts on connecting with or have you connected with women in crypto and just having more solidarity and more initiatives that are women lead and women find it and having the the voice and the the wisdom of Sisterhood in the crypto space which is is seriously it’s I don’t know I wouldn’t say this that I understand to be hyper sexist or it’s just a typically gender imbalance in technology for various reasons of course and but this is one of the most inviting and open-minded for thinking space is so I’m just curious if you have thoughts understand that aspect I do and I just want to throw in really quickly that Dash is doing some incredible incredible things to use this new currency in the everyday lives of people and changing a lot I mean I spoke with Danny the other day from the Crypt of showing radio station and just some of the projects he shared with me that they’re doing going to orphanage orphanage is camping outside open and to defend that old homes and rebuilding after after earthquakes all of these weren’t the weather doing in Mexico and helping people from the US and for Mexico to send each other Dash instead of Fiat you know making it super useful super accessible for them and actually turning crypto into into resources are they need whether it’s a new fan for their ceiling or food or whatever and so they are doing a lot of work right on the ground and putting you know when ATMs in crypto ATM there just it is amazing to see this dystopian Society for good and bad is already here as completely I mean crypto is already being used in so many daily activities all the time so much more that we know and I know that documentaries are being created and they will be available to all of us soon and every time more but there is so much more happening than we even inside are aware of you know every time I talk with anybody is it blows my mind all the projects are going on in and that this is the Hood part of it is another one and there are all these telegram groups going around some of them are called crypto women badass women in blockchain you know he’s different name there’s this group on Facebook called crypto queens and I have found some amazing amazing humans are working with the UN and women investing in women and funding each other’s projects and the Miami Conference the North America Miami Conference Bitcoin conference I had this one person run up to me this woman and she said hi sister if you’re a woman here I pretty much want to connect with you and she added me to his telegram group and I stole that from her in the best possible way so every time I’m at any blockchain event I run up to the women and I said Hey sister if you’re a woman in the space I want to connect with you and it’s just so beautiful and so I may be 5 or 10 different groups that are all women in blockchain and art projects in blockchain it is it is really unbelievable I’m actually really excited for the South by Southwest there is a bunch of the crypto Queens are coming down we’ve been talking about doing a documentary about women in crypto and I just hope that I get to interview them 10 minutes with each one in super supportive so it’s been quite interesting and of course there is still competition with in here and there but for the most part I find that women are really supportive of each other I also have been working with swarm City and the storm funds quite a bit I meant Joel from Joel Dietz from swarm and we talked about a bunch our projects and all the stuff happening and you express a lot of interest in supporting both blockchain art projects and women equality so I know swarm is now sitting around the survey to try to make sure that there are as many women as men users and their platform that’s really exciting and also so many surveys about how they want the tokens to be used and so on are hungry to include the community that’s what’s Tim Meadows all about right and that’s what these events are all about so I think I think we’re doing pretty good so far and I see how much more collaboration is going to is going to start happening you know just from from these telegram groups and how excited everybody is and and also how cool is that that we have telegram instead all our messages so that the government can hover information are private conversations it’s just it’s amazing we weave I feel sad about the fact that Facebook and all these social media platform orny or Cuban connection you know I honestly have so many thoughts where I say I don’t care if Facebook knows all my information or if they own all my media I just want to be able to share photos of my friends in Argentina and this is the easiest form so how sad is it that we were okay with all of our privacy and information being exploited and people making money off of us just because we’re so starved for human connection so I’m really excited to be able to do the same things we’ve been doing and use the good parts of Technology like social media in a way that it also filled up our pockets and our Spirits you know that is music to my ears thank you so much I’m so glad that I I mean I just just the fact that your video came up right after cryptos news and we’re in this moment have his conversation this is all such beautiful music to my ears and yeah it’s been I mean in my field in the world of Tantra sacred sexuality sexual healing in just the I think the most important thing in my studies in my experience for healing a planet and really saving the Earth is really being instrumental and being conducive to two women Sisterhood and a healthy positive empowering way and actually creating more financial Independence so that women as mothers can have more freedom and power and actual means to make more independent decisions with their bodies with their with their you know how they how much even breastfeeding I mean the most people don’t know that it’s pretty much understood that about 5 years is a typical pre-industrial young length of time to be breastfeeding infants on demand and imagine the kind of infrastructure changes that have to happen for that to be possible in the modern world but if anything’s going to make it happen it’s going to be the fruit of the work that people like you were doing and that’s as you know might just sort of Public Service Announcement about you know a sort of futuristic crypto feminism you know that I said that I want to contribute to I want to see happen is this more and more working together and in collaboration So yeah thank you for helping with that and Centric energy and learning some teachings of something that it’s pretty recent to me maybe two years and there’s so much to learn and I found so much healing and in all of these intersections of psychedelics meditation 10 trick work and crypto and it’s it’s so bizarre and no way to talk about technology and evolution and money in the same line that we talked about psychedelics and in self-healing love and all of this to no life force of energy but it is all the same thing it’s it’s just growing us a more compassionate and accepting loving human race you know that’s what it’s all about and at the same time that I’m really excited about all of these blockchain as a vehicle for 4 change I am really concerned about Wi-Fi and radiation and you know of course all of these a chemtrail crazy stuff that we put ourselves through so I’m putting out the intention into calling for more people to get involved in to figure it out other ways to connect the other internet in a way that it’s not so destructive for us and so there’s not some natural solutions and then there’s simple things we can do like turning off wi-fi at night when you go to sleep and self-education on this on this topic but I would love to hear more like I said Solutions and privacy are are something that we are now noticing that we need to work on more at the same time that we develop all these amazing systems right we need to wear we’re kind of like it’s floating and all this magical ways and now we need to start creating the containers that will keep us a lines into our missions as well yeah absolutely absolutely awesome well yeah I’m getting about 2 or if you’ll just totally mind blown and totally satiated by learning all this stuff all this great stuff that you’re doing do you feel free now to take some time to promote your efforts and talk about we have coming up in the future will people can be looking out for and and yeah we’ll we’ll call it a good introduction to hopefully we can also keep in touch on going up next and that is the exist festival.com that it’s a beautiful project where we are just connecting more and more people doing similar events and hoping that we can continue to collaborate so if anybody’s interested in anything that we’re doing please reach out there’s room for you to be fully creative in your own way and like I said it’s not about competition the abundance is there and in so many ways so that is South by Southwest Austin and then we have token Fest in San Francisco I will be there as well and then we have an art party in the bay somewhere so all this information will be on social media that is at my new brakes on Twitter or breaks on Instagram and I wanted to mention. So I most recently connected with gel polish and he’s doing art for addicts and he has a lot of projects going on in that world so I’m really excited to get more involved in healing the process of healing ourselves through ART and handling addiction because I believe technology is also an addiction right so being able to create those containers again and also few initiatives for the cleaning up the oceans and ocean token and just so many good projects coming up so anyway that I can that I can help or help you connect with those who will get you to where you want to be the green miners we clean energy any of that please reach out to me I would love to help out cool thank you again so much now Newburgh city has been such a pleasure and yet again thank you for just allowing me to be impulsive and send a message out to you and get you on the show and to know also that your ear integrating some the tantric wisdom in and works into your life it’s so exciting and I agree this is all just one big Kundalini blockchain Bliss Bellini black seamless hashtag that will be in touch in the future and thank you again so much sounds good thank you so much have a beautiful night. 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Sexual Secrets and Beyond with Penny Slinger TPP88

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Hello Dear Beloveds!
In this episode I’m joined by Penny Slinger, co-author and illustrator of the classic tantra book Sexual Secrets: The Alchemy of Ecstasy. We discuss her artistic career in it’s many multimedia forms. She offers wise words of guidance for this time of sexual, spiritual, and ecological crisis.

Please visit her websites at:
http://pennyslinger.com/
http://bluelotuspod.com/wp/
http://64dakinioracle.org/

About Penny:

Penny Slinger, born in London in 1947, graduated with a first class honors degree from Chelsea College of Art in 1969.

She had acclaimed solo exhibitions of her two and three dimensional Feminist Surrealist collage art and writings in London during the 1970s.

She then co authored and illustrated ‘Sexual Secrets, The Alchemy of Ecstasy(1979), introducing Tantra to the modern western world and ‘The Secret Dakini Oracle’ divination system.

Penny moved to the Caribbean where she resided for 15 years, creating art series dedicated to the indigenous Arawak Indians of the region.

In 1994 she came to California to the estate of Dr Christopher Hills. She released the ’64 Dakini Oracle’ in 2010.

Her work has been exhibited widely, including: ‘Young and Fantastic’ (Institute of Contemporary Art), ‘Angels of Anarchy’ (Manchester) and ‘The Dark Monarch’ (Tate, St Ives) in 2009, In ‘History is Now’ (Hayward Gallery) 2015 and ‘Feminist Avant-Garde of the 1970s’ (Photographers’ Gallery) 2016.

She is represented by Riflemaker Gallery (London), Broadway 1602 (New York) and Blum and Poe (LA and Tokyo).

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello their beloveds welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 88 this is a very auspicious day I’m releasing this episode on Valentine’s Day 2017 and I have the distinguished honor and privilege of speaking with Penny Slinger who is the co-author and illustrator for the classic sexual Secrets the Alchemy of ecstasy and I believe this book is one of the most important in my collection and I recommend it to any and everyone and I really believe that it’s magical and it holds a sacred power and it’s it’s absolutely Exquisite adventure to explore the dead which we wanted to at that time introduced a whole Western World to the idea that sex could be sacred and that he was a spiritual path which didn’t bring blame and shame to all of these areas but actually so it completely integrated with one spiritual journey in life and how you could bring everything every single part of your whole experience of being into alignment with your Divine Purpose so I came to Tantra through the path of art you know I’m an artist that’s being my manifestation and it’s my time I need it from when I was so little that time I didn’t do much else other than that it’s my particular gift and I wanted to use that in ways that would be my path in life that I could get something for myself that meant I could always be fully engaged cuz otherwise I didn’t like to be bored and a lot of times it’s being on your own and in this way I could always be actively working on my connection income activity with everything through the if a station of on the practice of Art and the kind of meditation that is so drained collagen went to Chelsea in London for free at IHOP. Having done two years before that in another college and at that time I felt very grown and convinced that I wanted to make a powerful for myself as a woman not only as a woman but at the woman artist and because I saw that the world of art as much as a lot of other Realms and social comes was very much male-oriented and dominated and governed by a male artist however a favorite subject to the Man artist is the female and often the female nude and that music that Shakti although I didn’t know the names talk to you at that time but that shop runs through a call of okra creative experience and expression sew and Us coming out as an artist into the world off to being a student I chose the tools of surrealism that’s an art movement but I used it to try and express the female psyche and for that process of self-reflection and also bringing that out into the world you know I’ve a common tree on how women in general is seen and at that time feminine wisdom was coming up as a movement but it I wasn’t really a game connect to two eyes at the sensual and sexual and intuitive and all these how is a woman it wasn’t raining looking at fat as much as trying to get women the same kind of power this man so I wasn’t really attracted to that but I was very attracted to trying to embody myself fully in the world as a fully conscious thinking feeling sexual sensual being who was female but who was a powerful as any other artist being but in her in her own right not emulating not trying to be like that but trying to express herself so I felt that my situation was very reflective of the feminine in general in that that was a kind of repressed society and there wasn’t even an aspect to thinking that women really enjoyed sex it was more like the sides of their husband boyfriend anyway I was using my aunt to delve into this whole phenomenon and when I came out about school I was looking for my direction because as I say it’s the realtor was important to me but it was really an active movement of the movement and I wanted something that was much more Dynamic and connected well I went in the early seventies to the first exhibition of Tantra. That was put on the table in London and when I walked in there it was dressed like I I Stood Still and I’m home you know I recognize all this I know this what can I do to find out about what this really is and so I went about trying to find anyone who really knew about Time trailer on the inside not just them book store off of a kind of knowledge that was not experiential I wanted someone who was in and cool that into my life and it took a couple of years but then I got introduced to this man Nick Douglas and interesting Enough by the woman who ran the old Woman’s little group that I was part of in my seeking to be part of this emerging feminine expression and she said that Nick Douglas lucioni quote liberated man she’d met and so this is all pretty and so when I got together with Nick so many things been into place because they could just come back from India he been on a silent retreat with is a yoga teacher in Sanskrit to the bathroom and peed with no book on the side of Tantra and he just had all these home since two of these questions which was I would Express to him something that I haven’t really been able to talk to anyone else about and he would go yes didn’t answer that now. About and it was my wild and crazy experiences with something with a contact that lost Journey towards finding that and when are we being together for a while we went to New York and when we went to New York we saw a lot of the friends that we had and their relationships were they had a had that first opening of sexual Liberation there was a book called The Joy of Sex by Alex Comfort but I don’t know if you ever heard of that a lot of people’s initiation gets exploited for couples Not Just For Men you know it was something for couples and so everyone was feeling this New Freedom the parents come in so women have they had there was this whole new Liberation and that there was no direction to it and so the relationship was so I would just falling to pieces because people were experimenting left right and center but with nothing nothing to come back to know kind of foundation or I did about how energy actually works and so we were talking to a friend in a restaurant in New York sang what we were observing and say what a panty but they don’t know you know about time Tren the teachings here at Scott so much real solid information about how energy works and what these things mean in this whole spiritual reference point which could be The Guiding Light in these times and when we finish talking a man came over from the next table instead I hope you don’t mind me coming over but I couldn’t help hearing it what you were saying and a Bookshop in New York and I have a partner who is starting a publishing company and I’d love to have him talk to you about doing the book about the pitch that ever was I’ve started we thought it would be a quick you know you paper book paperback book a few months over to America to live we were living in England at the time and it was a labor of love and have you seen it didn’t really want to do it because he said these are the secret is the power and I said you know Nick tell you the gift that it’s being mean to me to understand that that is the spiritual part which I can truly on with all my being that the way one can make all of one that she was part of a spiritual practice is inclusive of everything this is such a blessing and to know that this lineage of people who’ve what with these energies and found out how energy works in the bunny hop in and tune into all that this to me is being a Saving Grace and I want to share it and I think if we do if we just surrounded or would love that will be its own Protection work yes yeah yeah there’s really a powerful intention like I said I feel like the book is alive and imbued with spirit and yeah I think it’ll melt the heart of the most Sinister sociopaths and apart from doing all the drawings I did write it I mean what what I wanted to do myself I saw myself as the bridge between the esoteric World which network representative of all this knowledge and transmission and direct experience some studying and he was asking about the odds of getting into the heart of that but I felt that things that he done before and after they were really fascinating but they were locked in a row that I can dance and little bit difficult to make old is accessible to everybody that I felt this is such a gift for for everybody is so I would go off and I would write this completely stream of Consciousness and intuitively what I thought for a section and I I had decided that we needed to have short sections so that people could access it easily and just be able to go and read one section not have to go and read the book cover but even just waiting one section you’ll get a whole teaching from that that’s holding itself without connected to everything else and also having so much I felt that to made it belong with your direct and easy for people to understand and connect with and in translating the drawings a lot of it from we got a whole collection of Indian Miniatures and things which we acquired to walk from for the book between each way I translate it a little bit and sometimes they were more directly the representation that we had in the original image as much as I could but in some other cases I change the little bit to make it a little bit more recognizable for a western audience in the Japanese shunga for instance you know that device unsteady enlarged and I still kept them I reduce them down a little bit to make them look a little things like that but it was it was just a wonderful process of learning and assimilating doing the drawings were all of that it was and I was supposed to ask you a few questions about the depressor septi has he given the above the overview yeah thanks well I’m curious how people responded and what the sort of marketing strategy was at a time it if you had if you stirred up an uproar if it was yeah how was that guy was he at that time you were you were going to be you know really making a statement to say the least so well you know it was pretty rough I received over here straight away and I’m in the book has sold over a million copies worldwide it is and going into over 12 languages and it was I think it was the right time and think how many books have come in the wake of this one For Better or For What I think of England English people in general and not very into the pressure points on the meridians in the big toe and they everyone then copy it in their reviews text my big toe you know I’m making all the different men’s magazines to sang this was really something that everyone should have really okay so I’m so glad that you said that right now because what’s what’s happening in my reality to kind of give you a bit of a briefing on that is it I’m I’m positioning myself deeper and deeper no pun intended within the mainstream porn industry to take these teachings and bring them to life in this new territory that we have of high-speed internet poor and it’s accessible to everyone worldwide and they’re just getting basically really to put it put it bluntly they’re being there being a I think I feel like they’re being psychologically spiritually raped by entities that are possessing the people in the porn industry to produce content that’s actually serving a negative ejaculatory cool creative impulse to create hell on Earth and that is puts me in an interesting genre of porn which I called tantric where shamanic and you know it’s not it’s not surprising that there’s some resistance and backlash to the the maneuvering I’ve had to do to get position but there’s also a lot of people embracing and saying this is this is the extreme anti-christian ecstasy that we were trying to achieve by choking each other half to death and so you know I could go on but I’ll say that this is so obstinate to know that you were getting reviews in the adult magazines and so what was their response engagement do they want to have did you know what to do now all the sudden do like a a tantric spread you know what time she ate Bunny and what are they call it the centerfold I mean wizard partnership could have happened if we didn’t disappear after the book came out Nick and I move to the Caribbean so we’re off on the desert island for 15 years and so we didn’t do it and I was just at that point following Nick wanted to do because I was in surrender not to him but to The Pantry cart and he was my my teacher and in so much of this that that was I just went with whatever that flow was meant to be and so that’s what happened but I have over yes felt a deep of colon to introduce because I didn’t see it real erotica into the field that was when I as I say when I was young and we both have this there was so little to The Fugitive at streets off to the side and men and you know raincoats on something but it wasn’t over proliferation. Kind of numbing that happens which was what results and what you were talking about just now things having to get harder and tougher with us because there’s so much without the actual energy Exchange spiritual and emotional connection that goes with this whole thing which is what that holds energy about integrating all those flavors that sentiment so will those emotions in the being I’m not just this thing which is bringing you into this base knee-jerk reaction level which is in the end ultimately so empty and unsatisfying because the depth and breadth I mean so and even not even the human relationship a lot now with all this activity that’s going on so it is needed so much to be able to bring this and I actually did a few years back I did a video as a demo bringing the secret to life and someone was going to pretend that the Playboy but then they didn’t want to do that kind of thing anymore at that time and I just put it to the side you know if I I try to be very focused with things and if I bring something for it and then that the doors are opening because I have always a lot of projects that need my attention if something isn’t going with us some kind of slow then I’ll just go on to the next thing. I didn’t really pursue it but that has been something that I felt so important that we need to bring into the mainstream house to be the transformation and healing of this energy which is now all out there but only the Outta the real stuff that people are actually dying for inside well I have all choked up right now because what is what I think of hear you say is it you were you have taken steps and have been partially met you know it in it potential a desire to perhaps use the knowledge that you have to direct adult media content is my hearing you correctly what is trying to do that for a while will the reason that the reason that I have like tears streaming down my face because I really want there to be a an elder ship for sexual education through adult content and that’s what’s missing is is a real ethical spiritually responsible empowered trustworthy sacred wisdom tradition that can be shared now I mean the time like you said about the the timing of the release of the book back then there there was a very little published both entertainment and educational erotic media of all types it was so black market and so underground for you know they took to the point where they were taking erotic statues and hiding them in the biggest and most important museums of the world just these secret hiding hiding collections of erotic art that nobody could dare lay their eyes on and no it’s it’s the lowest common denominator and this absolute torrent of junkfood sort of sexual erotic media and at the Township community is way behind and I’m not putting that on you because you were a Pioneer with this but the people who are my colleagues now I feel like there is not only a financial opportunity but there’s also a spiritual and dharmic opportunity to step up you know the way that you guys did you know back in the day so I just want to bow down deeply in just feel this moment where I feel like what you know the work that you did could really be embraced by let’s say the top pornstars is in the world we know they just have to have a one experience of being shocked if I’d you know doesn’t have to be the most extreme Kundalini activation that’s ever happened but just that feeling of there being something loving comforting nurturing that’s beyond you and your mind and your partner and that dissolution into the Divine that’s what we’re talking about that people have just not had the that the training to experience so built bed go to Temple Hill where I am and made the video and audio Studio the idea behind not in the idea that we shared and came together around was that you can through the use of the media confer the equivalent to shop Peapod and that is the interest in really being able to use the media to Consciousness the new Consciousness Consciousness in Bude with experience it’s what you feel you have to feed it through your being on that sending a level and I’m certain EU I’m sure you’re a practitioner of understand that you know what is being really tried to be accessed through the practices it’s the practice Brad Pitt so we need to do is act and transmit that. Energy wave that blessed wave which is the sublime Phoenix that is that the blitz of the gods and goddesses that they are all in this Union space of a blessed and the nectar of that you needed to shower and down and when you can create that wave and I believe that way if she is a transferable energy field which if it’s really establish that can be communicated and transmitted to other people through the media for the sound of delight on vibration of it all on the frequency of it but that then it’s this amazing gift because that is touching the stars and not to me is essence of time it’s been able to tune into that multidimensional nature of staff and to then June or that you are all that they do not feel to those principles of you know Divine connection and connection Inc you know see the other as yourself treat others as you would wish to be treated as yourself understand that says they think I’m depending the car comes back to you yes I understand that but sometime or other that’s going to happen and all you’re going to want to do is put out the best of all that you can be and how do you be your best you be your best by shooting your energy vehicle that you are understanding that all this solid stuff isn’t just a little energy fields and that you are the master or mistress Otis Divine machine that you can gift it and that it’s your duty as an awakened being to use everything that’s one of the things in time to use everything rather than refuse or deny everything is in order to be able to develop spiritual but 10% used all of it but cannot do the Alchemy do the Alchemy of all that with pure gold by and my sense of it just touching everything but the hot with the vibrate and that’s goddess and the time you know either as a device if you like can be used for for power or it can be used for love and another goddess is all love because that is the only eligible because yeah that was the most Exquisite beautiful Treatise on Tantra that I feel like I’ve ever heard and well it’s a it’s spellbinding and I feel that I just blessed blessed to hear these these words be spoken and by you and and I’m curious if you would like to guide us through what your creative Works have been I know you’ve you’ve you’ve got too many directions since the book was released but I’m curious what do you recommend people start to discover beyond the book that that you feel most proud of and and thank you yes well you know I do see the whole thing at the adjoining and I I I came in as a bikini but I didn’t really know myself and I spent the first part of my life and I think it’s natural for beings to do that to spend the first part of their life but then who am I trying to know oneself and then that way you differentiate your paws from what has been necessarily conventionally and you you you choose this especially if you’re a person just naturally go to the beat of everybody else and you know I know. Keeney is now have been their name is being taken before I kind of embodiment within but you know what they represent in essence is in at the embodiment of a feminine wisdom principal they are archetypes of wisdom wisdom which comes at you naked because it is naked it butt naked truth it’s naked just radiating blessed through every pore and it’s disruptive because it passed away all the things that you because I think you relied on and all those artifice is an old as he go dramas she just Trampled Under Foot and lost and she’s drunk on the blesiv share spontaneous being yeah in the other part of my life before I discovered Tantra and the reflection that I came in just trying to see who am I and in that I said who am I and how do I fit into the culture that I find myself in and it’s my own self and what other projections of others and how am I seeing and how do I see myself and all these things I was bringing into my experience of and I found the technique of collage and that was when I was doing my thesis of surrealist artists map sons did a number of collage books using old engraving and in those books he put together the Engravings to create seamless new world but they were very Fantastical you know people had wings and snake came out between the Pavements and the real encounters happen but now look like they were meant to be like that all the time but he’s instructed them and you couldn’t see where they looked. Together they were a new world and I said I thought you could kind of see make it look like it’s not. But it’s actually fuse into a new reality and you can also really joke people’s perceptions by bringing together the things they wouldn’t normally associate together but by the juxtaposition you to create this what they call it in there so am I use those those tools of collage and use the loss of images of myself had my own photo taken and put myself in that so that I could be both see the Muse and the one I mean the object of somebody else’s view but with photographic and then I also made three dimensional objects and I use those cool things in a lot of pieces life cost of myself my own head button and then like us about the people that was similar to using photographic call out your photos Honda back in 73 I had an exhibition code opening which was all about food and the roster so I’m bringing together you know that the body of woman with the whole idea of the table together in that and it was very shocking to people dressed up I had a whole wedding cake constructed I’m prevented myself as with a van everything adds the wedding cakes at the invitation for the exhibition it was in a being fully engaged in in in the eye and after that I forgot I started it went through for 7 years which was a major I guess you’ll call now to send what was that word wasn’t used at the time but it was me looking at all the skeletons in the cupboard I had a relationship with this filmmaker and we were meant to be doing all these projects together and it never really asked you fully manifest and then we broke up and it was my whole drama with woman’s theater group and my what with them kind of ripping apart their relationship and then I just had to process all this cuz I would say I’m sorry can I ask you something really quick I don’t want to cry or be a gossipmonger anything but I feel that the the Dynamics between creative creative relationships romantic relationships and those the way those play out the Ender play especially if there is I don’t know what that was in your case but I’m I’m really curious to see what wisdom you would have to share about you about using tantric skill sets and tools to harmonize human personality conflicts that’s a big big question a lot to to explore but if you were able if you were confronting these sort of issues were you able to at least somehow raise the vibration you know even if there are deal breakers and things had to be you know closed off but I’m just curious if you were successful at all and applying principles or by Christopher Hills my you know the person who built this property here he did a book called creative conflict which was all about heart-to-heart communication and about people needing to be hard I’m so it’s at whole dynamic between having an exchange with someone else but that person letting you know after you’ve spoken from your heart but they have understood it reflecting it back in their own words to you and that you do that back and forth and it actually creates a whole different kind of feedback loop the misunderstandings that often have a good exercise based on you know Christopher understanding of those principles a yogi eyes pop from being a western scientist animal and he was all these things wrapped together but that was a very good example of principles into the relationship Dynamic but for myself you know that it’s been so many different relationships and even oceans and you know how many dimensions the last to it and each one I’ve had a few major relationships in my life apart from many other relationship but as a few major ones you know that had bad that even a beauty and then Gloria and the agony and you know all of that and I always say there’s no such thing as my student so I like to think we’re all students protection is setting in the area relationship dynamic especially going to the mat the male-female dynamic at this particular time on the planet is in such a challenge in at the rest so many areas that go across because she knows you think of just love and attraction and vibration if you like you know that conventional I’m just you know that Dynamic the spice of life and energy vibrations which you know I make everything so complex and setting it this time the whole sexual identity is something that so you know I’m in the midst for what it’s going to be the next evolutionary stage of how we’re going to be able to manage male-female dynamic in a new way and of course you know the true Keys the Contra do do hold those keys because it is a true and which ones have it if you are able to hold that Crucible and a gaining and it didn’t. Do you have the real chance to be able to see the Divine in each other and bring the Divine fully into that invaded relationship and that you know it’s just the the Beauty and the glory and the end of the immortal France and get moving into our discontent touched any magical ways but at the moment I’m playing a lot of challenging in our relationship not only to each other but to a whole The Crucible of plant it up and down with her that you know that the interpersonal has to also be expanded I believe attitude tantrica to include the whole interaction with all of our natural world at this point and really bringing that into every meditation and interaction really because we can’t afford to lie if that helps eco-warrior and was all about planting gardens and saving trees and I still am now but I feel like what I’ve added to that with Tantra is just a ever-deepening reverence for creation and for the Divine the astral the Earthly Plains all the things we often take for granted I just want to be in that state of reverence and awe that I think most people achieve that when they go into the Great Outdoors and then go hiking or skiing they they have a tantric sort of shocked if acacian of there at least their parts of their system get woken up an activated unfortunately it doesn’t seem to be enough to make them into real hardcore activists a lot of the times but I feel like the there is an ecological agenda that is very transparent and very intrinsic to the path that that romance with with the life-giving fertility of this divine feminine and if you know a lot of people experience very direct communion with the wisdom intelligence and directives of Gaia through this practice so do you want to talk a bit about that kind of revelatory ecological revolution of Tantra if you will be glory after the sexual Revolution and I would save the kind of a cool resonance that I’ve I’ve told condemned presentation to some of her because I really believe especially in the cold vibration that she said we’ve got to start treating the Earth like a lover not like a mother and it when you treat her like a mother it’s you expect the mother to get unconditionally do everything for you and you don’t have to give anything back but if you treat it like a lover than you you know show that you have to give love to that lava and it says to a slow and so that’s an important shift and I think that’s a good thing to bear in mind and I had one time when I was in my twenties and experience with some strange object did Johnny and in that time I had what I still feel program the most orgasmic experience that I had when I had it I was just lying back on this massage table I wasn’t touching myself but I was having these orgasm just passed through my whole body and what I was feeling at the time I felt like I was body of the Earth has style and the every single every single of an insect’s wing and the slithering of the body of a snake and the rustling of leaves everyone going through my whole being beautifully spoken and who could not want to experience that who doesn’t anybody out there not enjoy orgasm it’s a very small number and to the to think that it can become such a flow state of being that level of Sensitivity I kind of almost feel like what most people are striving for when it when they’re trying to get off you know whatever gender or sex they may be is there their they’re basically trying to use friction sex or some sort of high-intensity friction contact in order to kind of chisel or sandblast or break through all this plaque that separating their nervous system and their chakra system from the cosmic Bliss that is a constant wave of orgasmic energy so the more you dissolve that plaque through right action through dharmik practice and purification of all kinds that are very well enumerated in the tatras you know an in yogic texts and Vedic texts there’s a path way to clean your stylus and get more of that orgasmic slow going and it’s definitely so abundant and not so scarce like everything else that we’ve been tricked about as far as the scarcity mindset vs. the abundance mindset so that’s just a follow-up that’s from me and and now that we’re coming to a close on time do you want to talk about some of the anymore highlights from your creative works that people should be looking for then about what’s what’s the current and future of an exorcism it was called and said some the book that I put out and that was trying to look at all these psychological States and and who am I and is that I could dance we both kind of psycho and then I come out at the house and then I have discovered time trip by this point and then I meet Nick Douglas as I say and then we went on to do another College book called man the next to see which was just a celebration of coming out of the confines of this black and white house and all the Western Heritage Inn in the Himalayas and just everything is one century psycho-spiritual play of of everything the profaned the sacred oil mixed together and it was a it was just we were enjoying and I wish I knew how to do, what a wonderful tool it was expecting this and that was that serious and then at the same time we did the secret dakini Oracle which was the 64 card Oracle system in systems put that out and that’s being around working since then then I went to to the Caribbean I was there for 15 years at I-10 and time got a long story short I realized I was there because of the embedded energy of the Arawak Indians whooping for alcohol Caribbean free Columbus and the Magical and pure kind of society who had been swept under the carpet of history and speaking to me and so I firmly believe that the indigenous way of life is the way of creating sustainability for the planet if we can start to embrace him understand that engage instead of in a friend that to the side as the Civilization V how to be in tune with the spirit and all things so that was my home to that way of life but I did for my portraits and they are like Indians in my time that and then I came back to America in 94 after I was I was here before that New York I was working on my phone from about the Arawaks and I finish that and then it was then that I met Christopher Hills and came here and then for the time here I am held a lot of events dr. Christopher past but she did the 97 to bring in the goddess energy and I still would like you to describe them when we talk to them right to coming on on on the car that you were interested in the way of using the energy that is that in these events and we’re all these awful waves so all that happening and I still while we can offer them to the goddess and then she can give her grace to us and doing for several years he has many people from the whole graveyard from performance thoughts and in the area bringing them in and having people get their offerings to Spotify and then one. I made the 64 that key Miracle which isn’t Eeveelution of the nlra but this time each of the energy that he needs and I have 64 Oracle and I hope to do a nap cuz if it can meet chat father and that is like a temple for the goddess and an Oracle phone just working on more three-dimensional pieces the game and coming back into a focus of customizing they oughta game having reached out to all the Divine archetypes imma come back into a more personal expression and now that I’m done now I just want to see you on tour with the museum installation with all this I’m not the biggest art Aficionado in the world but of course I’ve I’ve been a fan of Alex Grey and H R Giger and what I after this conversation I feel like I got a lot of catching up to do on on what you put out that I wasn’t aware of and I’m really going to enjoy it so it is a sort of a sumtur got some guidance that you could provide to say hey go and you know you can go to your website and in and just order purchase what you have or their YouTube videos or any other ways to access your go to website since I mean Menards.com has a broad spectrum of the word that I’ve been talking about and then 64 the numbers that Kenny. Org is where you can go to consult the Oracle and but also that the gallery of the images of the Thai King is there and then the Blue Lotus pod. Com which is rstudio site which has some videos and Son photography so those are few things that you can look at to start with and I haven’t all page on Facebook too with how about Instagram of you if you got on that platform say it took me a while because I just have so many projects and engagements of all kinds I didn’t want to be distracted by something that was another no platform of that nature however I am totally convinced now that it is one of the most strategic leverage points for anybody with the message or Consciousness that can create visual content it’s amazing I just thought of something I wanted to say and it was about relationship and resolution from a perspective that we were talking about mentioning my exorcism though that thing about The Break-Up and processing of the relationship and that’s what spurred our conversation about relationship with my partner at the time and next month or beginning of next month I’m going over to the UK to go to a conference and speak that that’s about this film makeup Peter Whitehead and over the last few years we can get back together in the sensitive film that we did at the time which type of being shown all those years and I was able to show that the Hayward Gallery in London and oh so I’m speaking at the conference about him because it’s a whole retrospect if they take him to the archives at this University and son a solution of some quite powerful can you describe it at all or just footage that we shot at the same time I did all these photographs that became the basis of the footage of myself and my girlfriend and Peter Shaw hit in this old derelict mansion house could love and it’s all just showing it Roar has it came out to the time off to all these years after 1969 that was shot and I guess this unit many takes but it’s like in this time the space that it’s like a magical experience that’s amazing so is there any hope that we will get this that’ll get to see a bigger audience or what do you have his first plants with that now is scheduled to reach a larger audience is a documentary that just being made of me he was young filmmaker Cove it started walking on it in 2012 when I was over in the UK I’m getting a tour at the gallery about my work and he was excited and said, I shouldn’t interfere with you and that interview grew into the documentary what she’s dressed now completed and it’s all of my early walk treat antra I’m in London and a relationship with a woman that hole. And it’s called Penny Slinger Out of the Shadows quite a good release coming up shortly support and Discovery and in the promotion and I’m definitely want to continue to explore in and talk with you about how to support the mission that that was laid out and and I feel like someday I will somebody will be calling me and asking me what was the story behind what brought me to interview and people like you if this is my contribution to the world and there’s just an ongoing interest and it’s so interesting to see to get this background and to have to really just go on a sort of a Time a Time trip into these you know these different points in in your creative history and really if I could just ask you a couple more questions before we before we call it a night do you have a couple more minutes being this kind of bridge through these was one of the things to me that’s very important in the manifestation of my life’s Mission if you like is to be able to be active and relevant at this time in my life when I am old and that the wisdom of the wise woman knows he didn’t pack anything back into society and that’s what he need so much to be able to swear I act now I’m not wanting to be Destin historical figure but I am for the active right now I love that thank you so much yeah that’s I’m so thrilled again that we’re having this conversation and I feel like the the need is is greater than ever to access the wisdom of the elders going back yuno thousands of years and the question I actually want to ask you who really is like the what the let’s see the shocked it country code is the goddess worshiping country cuz whether they would be considered on the left hand path of the right hand path or generally I think more realistically it was a it was a sort of he was ambidextrous it was an ambidextrous way to be in in in the shock to Tantra schools where you were dabbling we’re not doubling but really actually working consciously with Desire with with Will with your will and also with the Divine elements but hopefully with Integrity to Lenny’s trainings you would be in service to add a v or in the process so that you would be sort of putting yourself to work for the Divine will and getting your commission of the small things that your small mind actually wants in this small slice of the universe or the universe and if I if I simplify what the essence of the positive empowered healing Reverend Liberatore nature of of the more feminist Tantra is about purification of those parasites of the heart that you mention you know earlier and if if that was the intention back then against the forces that Humanity was up against at that time that they warned us the forces are going to get worse it’s the Kali Yuga World age and we’re going to be inundated with these negative entities once again the technology that you were exploring and has continued to explore and her still as you said ready to bring to the present moment at this time of absolute sexual Madness more than ever through porn the the question is it took me awhile to get to it but how do you advise the world now about the need for Tantra what are your what are your words of wisdom and take as much time as is you have pleased to give us some guidance now Where Do We Begin what do we focus on and prioritize if we have limited attention spans you know yeah please and that was about a left hand or right hand Tantra and as far as I’m concerned they only real difference in a kind of pacification is that the right hand is to do with meditative Union with say the daikini and the right left hand is to do with actually taking an inverted Shakti to realize that Union but it’s both to do with the inner Union with the Divine being and then the interesting cuz I had it seems so simple but I had a revelation between like tantric meditation and the meditation of other religious forms is you’re not sublimating that energy that section energy you actually using that but what the right hand while you’re using it but with this entire no. Can you actually making love with the internal. Kini so it’s it’s using everything rather than denying everything so I just really wanted to address that because when you say to balancing photos of course you know the play is at the Contra dealer is that Tina between the outer and inner and other call BNI it within the soccer not the gross body that’s why it’s called the second body the energy body where that is you know that that in a erotic channel of energy where in at the Statue of Santa up to the crown and it’s all one energy and I said that they that the blessed is when you envision and experience the union of Shiva and Shakti in the crown chakra meaning like completely in their territory around but fillet in the cellular matrix honey and milk into the Lotus at the hot and got us that and that is The Crucible and that’s if the dentist thing to focus on in the inner plane that’s it because it’s about the dog and dangerous about the dog that hot ass between me and have a claim and it’s true that you know list for meditation that you can stop with the chief Zach time does all the time male body vibrates but we’re actually wonderful wave energy that you are manifesting it’s that I want it that you’re tuning into it with the gift-giving wow so the right-hand and left-hand path are not antagonistic that’s an illusion make the pads Chrysler make an ex or something in a beautiful dress right as bad as it spirals as it should beautiful thank you for that clarification I think that’s going to help a lot of people yeah so so I’m dressing and red and white snake spider and around but you know the contract principle is to get that energy than going into the central Channel which just you know is this I’m at wave of infinity no bottomless and topless photos of spiraling into that Central Channel yes yes thank you so much it’s as beautiful as it’s no wonder that your visual artist because you’re you creating a beautiful art form in the Maginot just through the word so and yeah thank you for that I am very excited to see what you continue to develop and and I definitely feel like his you’re saying it’s if it’s if the wisdom that you’ve been carrying is not percolating through the generations the way that it it we would hope for it to then I want to be stepping up as somebody who who really makes effort to connect people who are interested in erotica and neurotic media and the wisdom teachings that that you you share to be able to access them so hopefully this is one small step in that direction with doing this podcast and I’m going to definitely look forward to just catching up in schooling myself in your work yeah any other things you want to share before we go tonight you are sending out many good powerful vibrations to everyone who possibly tunes into this that they fix that part of being that country Quiva of the own Destinies and put themselves in the center of that own mandalas so that they a defect not just cause at the same time of cost aligning to the Divine headlights in the sky but your fulcrum and your guide so that you are at course but your turkey day at effect of the goddesses well, all right good night thank you so much pain he will text you and take care, and click on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818 to 7515 3 or emo band at Country Park. 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