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My First Vedic Astrology Chart Reading with Arun TPP290

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In this episode I’m blessed to have my first vedic astrological chart reading by my new brother in tantra, Arun!

About Arun:

I am an Engineer professional and the founder of Successful start-up called eduladder.com

Born in Vedic astrology family Kerala. Travelled across the country and got lucky to meet and live with a lot of masters from different disciplines matha Chaithanyamai on Narayanagurukula and Sahadev.

My spiritual therapy and teachings are mostly based on Vedas and astrology this video is describing what and all you can get to know from an astrological chart and its basic ideas.

I also use Crowley tarot card.

These data can be used to reveal more about your relationship status your career choice and much more if you want a personalized reading and increase your energy based on that to live your life in the fullest then you could connect with me by both online and offline.

https://arunsyoga.in/

My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

A:

4th path of tantra, vedic astrology, energy transcendental state, shamans, herbs, help to reach particular state, without medicine or drugs can reach point

social conditioning

truth nature of human, true nature

some conditioning, social issues, not able to reach true potential

sometimes using drugs without the advice or true shaman or tantrika, drugs can push you back down, have to take again and again in order to stay here

TP: 4 paths of tantra, in order in a health y path, resonance with astrological energies, mindful, holistic, use of substances, stay sharp conditioned

A: exactly

here have natal chart, scroll down,

see

TP: 12 numbered titles,

A: all the rectangle, each on we call houses, 1st, 2nd,3rd, etc.

each house will be having 30 degree each,

center is where you stay, your soul, which got a body, stays in your body, that is ready to be expanded to the ultimate, through your body, that is the reason

while ..birth, planets positioned in particular part of the sky,

in 4th house, venus,…

5 th house sun moon jupiter

TP: if we’re taking the indicator being the location and time of birth, certain quality or state of gears, of the planets of universe, stars, a certain measurable quantifiable, state of energy is directly making a point of contact to space/time coordinates

scientific manner, if other babies born in that location, not exact point, vicinity, at the same time, we’d all have the same chart?

Scientific, a way to explain that, what is the external world, what is the process if you could put it on a flow chart, animation or something, beam of light from galaxy, unfolding from within, what’s happening, doesn’t start in womb, it’s at that moment

A: there is no possibility of the same chart for two people, not possible to birthed in same place at same time, taking, lines in globe,

TP: longitude and latitude

A: different from person to person, time moves, planet also moves, two different chart for two different people

TP: one more question, makes sense, perfectly, one question, don’t say to be a troll, trying to understand the logic and math of it,

what case would be made if twins born?

A: there will be seconds between, twins can’t come out at the same time

TP: math, fascinated by it, after studying crypto, map mathematical proofs onto nature, find confluence of where you have spirals, interesting patterns that actually scale, fractals,

also from natal chart,

15 degree more, 15 degree less, correcting, sometime human error can happen, half a day, one more chart

human error

understand everything from the links

in your chart I can see,

saturn is dominant energy

as planet, prominent planet

energy has a problem, it will make you to work very hard, look at your life, you can see, hard working scenarios, dragged into , even though you don’t want to, some kind of push, that happens, pushed into hard working scenario, happen because of saturns prominent energy

venus, is staying on the bindu, the planet, associated with sexual energy

actually helping, the way you have started, the way you are into, basically you are in transcendental state, capable to transcend sexual pleasure, into wisdom and understanding

as you start to evolve,

start to understand different dimensions of existence, able to go through dimensions

there is some scenarios, force you to do hard

TP: recap, saturn and venus, so if i understand, saturn energy has the effect of causing episodes of hard work that sort of abnormally hard work, certainly had long chapters of life, pushed to work harder than necessary, hopefully made me a better person, sexuality, transcendental quality, something transmutation, extra sexual alchemy power by nature?

A: venus is friendly planet for you,

sexuality you have, help you to transcend yourself into something better

also you could help others to transcend themselves through sexuality, in built quality

previous karmas, had on previous birth, thing which is helping you to use the sexuality to transcend yourself into a better your

immense power, use that to transcend yourself and help others to transcend themselves

karma, very young, something to do with sexuality, past karmas, nothing to be worried about,

helps you to reach higher state of spirituality

TP: compelling, that would validate the path that i’m on,

preset

astrology, in the west, the cards you’re dealt in this lifetime, born,

may be very attractive, or smart or both, or strong, everybody has different cards they get

in that sense, it’s god or its random, in astrological sense, cards you’re dealt, in this life time, chosen by karma, forces interplaying, free will, gods, demons, goddesses, factors, choosing very intelligently what cards you’re dealth

one of those cards, increased sexual alchemical potency, from karmas in past life, card dealt to me through karmas of past life

A: dharma house, 9th house,

dharma, clear in your chart

mars, staying on 7th house

what i can see, you like intellectual and creative women as partners

met a woman from 2011-2018

she can help you more deeply

TP: lovely question, no pun intended, constellation of shaktis, who i love dearly and i call myself a heart gardener, there’s never just one, maybe a little bit, ensemble cast, movie of my life, women are ensemble cast, not one lead role character

who ever’s in the best mood and being nice gets my attention

i chase some of them and some of them chase me, and i run away from some of them and some of them run away from me, nature of life

A: you met a woman, who can help you more deeply

if you contact with her again, you could talk with her, or she could help you more,

something, i feel there is some energy blockage, which i can feel from your presence over the phone, she can help you to release it completely

if you can do it also it’s fine, as you evolve in your life, jupiter comes

TP: you can sense blockage, if i find the smart lover she will be able to help me unblock my energy

A; deep something you feel, that can be released by lover, that lover you met already, time period 2011 to 2018

TP: so there’s a woman i could have met between 2011-2018, has the keys to unlock my energy

A: yes

TP: alright, cool, i have a few suitors in mind, be nice to know i can stop looking there, i have to go through my phone, hey i just got a reading are you the one

A: you can feel actually, somebody came into your mind, crowley tarot,

TP: exciting, why not, roll the dice

A: i can give you clue,

TP: big bucks no wammies

A: card came out, indolence and oppression

8 of cups, 10 of …

TP: don’t know if i should be elated or deflated

A: what i can see, sunset, and water, this is a clue

how to carry this heaviness, until 2036, organically it will go out

TP: 2036, 16 years from now, what happens then

A: this blockage will automatically dissolve

if you want to dissolve it before, you have to get that woman which you met, from 2011-2018, one of the lovers you had, and the clue is, sunset and water

TP: wow, okay, well i have some fantasies brewing in that department, i don’t want to wait 16 years, so i guess, i’m gonna explore that much more, yeah

A: you have venus, you could transcend this energy more deeply, you can do that

TP: awesome, appreciate that, very interesting, exciting

A: you have the shakti power, power of shakti, so whatever reason you put forth yourself as shakti worshiper, that reason will get dissolve, and you will become the shakti alone, feminine path, spirituality

one of the power, this is something which will happen to you, yoni worshiper, i have send you sexual posture for you, this posture can help you to connect more intimately with your lover, that is there on the link which i have sent you

TP: exciting, don’t think you get assigned a sexual position in a normal astrology reading

A: 2000 years of reading history in my ancestors, exactly the path of tantra, is a science which helps you to have the materialistic pleasure also the spiritual ecstasy of spiritual liberation, only science gives you both things

other religions, sexuality is a sin, something wrong, only can do spiritual practices if you have money

tantra helps you evolve self, a very wealthy person, as well as very mindful, spiritual evolved person, science help you reach that

this is the path of that, nothing wrong in that

picture i have shared you will give you more deep intimacy, lover would like to see you get excited

TP: that’s very beautiful,

made very good argument for what’s missing in the western culture, separate sexuality from spirituality, health, medicine, from personal development, intellectual/emotional

one of my tantra teachers, initiated by indian tantric priestess, talk about, everything has to go through all the chakras,

another teacher said, all paths go through the sexual chakra, there’s no way to bypass the second chakra, for purpose of circulating kundalini energy

if you want to go from root to crown, no detour, if you’re messed up sex chakra, distorted or blocked path to higher consciousness

other religions anti sex, detours, get lost, never find way to destination, in tantra, it’s a well defined path, greeted and welcomed through it, love to hear you talk about maybe next time, talk about the primal, shaktism of indigenous tribal south asian villagers, held tradition of goddess worship, no shame about nudity, lightness of skin, no bramin, no sanskrit, no rigid traditions, uncontaminated, indigenous, shaktism, where the energy flows naturally and was never disrupted by colonialism

can you find people now?

A: there are 2-3 communities, existing in india, one is in kerala, some tribes in north east, 2 things i got chance to live in these two places, basically what they’ve done, there will be hut , all the people live surrounding the hut, when woman wants, goes to hut, stays here, men will come and she will have sex with who ever she likes, no shame about what is happening there, don’t have that kind of consciousness, sexuality as a sin

no marriage problem

no son who don’t have father, everybody don’t know who is father

TP: shared paternity

every man feels responsible for children of village, no body considered an ophan

A: yeah exactly

existing still in india, north east, and south east part of india

TP: definitely a topic we’ll have to explore more deeply on another episode, right now, looking at rat yoni position, wildest position i’ve ever seen, gonna have to be practicing some serious…

made a joke, people think i’m a little bit too..people who are ascetic and pious about asexual yoga, i mock them

seems like yoga, stretching, flexibility, so you can be still, meditate longer periods without aches,

i imagine, i would want to have all this flexibility and strength, postures so i could have more fulfilling love making sessions, be in love making positions for longer,

sexual yoga, control ejaculation, not be unconscious about that, maintain erection, control ejaculation, strong, stable in positions, graduate in level of adulthood, sexual mastery, i’m seeing here

can’t wait for the world to see

now foregone conclusion, this position will have to be in tantric porn videos

you’re now a coproducer, in your chart to be a porn director?

A: thing is like people can have more deep intimacy through sex, its the other way around, dogma, sex is really fun actually

TP: playtime for adults, can you speak to , what’s your analysis of why and how the forces against freedom of sexuality, what is there logic

A: sexuality may connect you with somebody else which may not be welcomed into the family, wealth

TP: that’s very astute, exactly what i believe also, male patriarch control transmission of wealth, control sexuality of daughters, they would make illegitimate heirs, political between families, arranged marriages

A: exactly

TP: in your words, love to hear you describe what is going on in this rat yoni position, i thought i had a wild sexual imagination, i was underestimating the potential, can you describe the position

A: man is laying, holding the woman upside down, his tongue is on the vagina, of the woman, same time, woman is on the mans cock

this is kind of very deep intimate play, where you could have really deep exchange of energy, for this, both of you has to be a yogi, otherwise you’ll fall

TP: yeah, i want to describe in my words

most auspicious number is 69

so basically for those who can imagine, i have made very explicit xxx hardcore tantric porn about 10 years ago, first professional production, still well kept secret, doubt anybody will find that, in that we did various, some 69 action, what typically happens, the male is laying on back, female on top of him, they’re head and feet are inverted towards each other, achieve access mutually to engage in oral pleasure, seeing in this yogic, adaptation is that the male is sitting upright with an erect spine, legs out in front, its like you’re taking the normal 69, on the dial of a clock, that would be, basically if you were laying flat together, male suddenly sat up, 180 degrees laying flat in 69, then male partner sits up to 90 degree angle, woman is lifted up into the air, looks like head stand

what is yoga posture, woman by herself, inverted posture, legs spread freely, wow

A: don’t remember that name from that particular yoga, this don’t have a name actually, this is basically, each yoni is a representation of one animal, elephant, horse, mongoose, monkey, each yoni has one sexual posture, something which helps them to connect more deeply and intimately

you can perform this position, perform womans other position

this would be two positions will be there when sexual act happens,

TP: i don’t want to dwell on this, we can move on, definitely feel like, what you’re opening up, a lot of things i’m unaware of, notion that your sexual organs have deep personality, and preferences, better alignment with other people, match making, compatibility, like dating, tastes, eat, music, movies, if you understand scripts and patterns for sexual energy, the personality of your second chakra, how could avoid, getting to know that, if this helps you to understand that, very interesting

A: intimacy will take you more deeply, actually reach the core with sexuality, match making very important, taste in sexuality, partner some other taste, no fun

4 important planets: venus, mercury, saturn, mars

venus associated with sexuality, saturn with hard things in your life, capability to transcend sexuality to wisdom, important things which will guide your life, reduce the bad effect of the saturn,

yoga, kriya, see particular yoga posture, done, practice kriya, automatically eliminate bad effect of saturn from you, can help you decrease the hardships, being given to you by existence

TP: exercise i can do to optimize and to correct these issues, resolve with certain postures, mudras,

A: yeah like mudras, you can follow, to reposition all these energies into proper places, saturn energy, what is happening, whatever comes out of life, thought process, pushes, that will become like something else after some time

this is how life will evolve, if you can control that thought in the way you want, hardship, your life can be reduce, some postures will help you to remove those problems, you can see in my video, youtube channel,

if your practice well, reorder energies residing in you, sharper life, sharp sexual ejaculation, go really deep as well

posture which have shared with rat yoni, something a normal personal can’t perform, have to be a kind of yogi in order to perform those postures, evolve you as a being like that

TP: training and practice

A: everything require training and practice otherwise 5 or 10 minute job

TP: 5 pump chump

A: that kind of sex actually elevate energy, higher state, higher state is natural state of human beings, because of other things we came down to be, nothing like higher state, organic state of human being

TP: this is a lot to make one very good, in depth podcast episode, we’ll consider this to be one very good overview

got me as a client, excited to share this, second indian man vedic astrologer who has piqued my interested in why it’s not enough just to go to yoga studio with mat, pants, fitness routines, more deep interlocking gears of spiritual technology, machine, machine, clockwork, soul, mind, karmas, all interconnected, holistic, more holistic than being presented in the west, all mysticism beyond the yoga studio experience

i’ve been yoga classes where all they do is tell you how to move your body and breathe, then been in classes where they optimize your as radio transciever for signals from all over the cosmos, fine tune yourself

like a radio handset, all devices have programming that you have understand, or you can’t interoperate, what if you bought an internet connected device, no manual, couldn’t get it to turn on or connect

preconfiguration, customize, settings of your own device, powered by electricity, connected to signaling networks, to far reaches of universe,but not configured, yogis/tantrics developed training technology to understand, configure, connect to divine, planets, connect more deeply, with a lover, or family, or community, or farm animals, plants in garden, cycles of nature, a built in infinite capacity to optimize dynamics, you just are not gonna encounter that in the west, even by going to a yoga class

one other indian astrologer, who left an impression on me, explaining to me, possible, devadasi, consort, astrologically born, preconfigured to have voracious appetite for pleasure, be happy, not sex slave, almost volunteering to do craft she was born to do, very interesting precedent, astrologically proven to be born, happy fulfilled, dharma, exalted sex worker, i could imagine there being legal protections, if my dharma astrologically is to be a sexual worker, it’s my dharmic civil rights, astral human rights

A: everybody is different, each one is different, only thing i feel is morality, whatever you do for your happiness should not be disturbed another, violating somebody else, that is something immoral, doing whatever you want to do for your own happiness that is good, that will not disturb anybody

astrology is like blueprint, these are teh energies working on you, make stronger, very indepth life, tantra is all about, everybody has to live life deeply and intensively, get something out of life, other wise life looks very blank

A: this is like therapy, if somebody wants to get involved in intensity of life, through tantric practices, astrology is gateway, the opening, truly get connected deeply, could drop me email, i can work on chart, almost 3 hours to derive all datas from chart, take another 2-3 hours to explain everything to somebody

Lucia Gabriela.

Walking the Path of Fire with Tantrika and Intimacy Coach Lucia Gabriela TPP285

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In this episode I’m joined by Lucia Gabriela for a deep exploration of her personal tantric transformation and healing by walking a path of fire

About Lucia:

Lucia Gabriela helps individuals and couples to master their life, relationships and intimacy with themselves and others.

Her passion is to create a safe and sacred space for women and men to deeply explore many aspects of themselves, purge emotional and/or sexual traumas that are holding them back from manifesting what they desire, heal their inner child, embrace their shadows, connect with their higher self, reconnect with their own body’s wisdom, align with their true essence, live their higher potential, and master their sexual life in all realms. They can then create their life with awareness, maturity, self responsibility, radical self-love, and full commitment to explore their sexual and spiritual evolution.

Lucia Gabriela specializes and works with individuals whose journey is to free themselves from emotional and sexual traumas, and helps them to reclaim their creative power, body, voice, sensuality and sexuality plus to welcome pleasure into their lives, creations and relationships.

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My Non Verbatim Show Notes:

LG:

relationship and intimacy coach

help individuals struggling in relationship

go through different toxic relationships, marry multiple times, don’t know why they keep attracting same toxicity in life, help to break free from toxic patterns, behaviors, mindsets, energies

create relationship truly desire

deep level of intimacy, not carrying baggage in relationship

tantra facilitator

explore energy, consciousness, awareness, true self, deeper level

destroying what’s not serving us

path of fire, journey of fire

tantric principles, beautiful journey

reclaim power, voice, who they are here right now,

embrace, learn to love self at deeper level

work I do, I will say really excited, integrative somatic therapist

working with the mind, mindset, body, emotions, energy heart soul

multi dimensional part of self

release traumas, stories that are stuck in our body

blocking our energies

creative self, kundalini system, sometimes block root chakra, sacral, naval, power is,

power also in heart, power to be in body of humanity, grounded rooted, moving forward, safe secure, so many blockages we have in those areas

somatic work, releasing energy blocking you

releasing emotions blocking you

so passionate about work I do, why I help individuals and couples

younger age myself, able to explore different realms of shamanism, energy, grew up in ecuador, home country

exposed to different aspects of life, of healing

same time, integrative holistic homeopathic home, that was my medicine, doctors holistic

fascinating, developed cancer at age of 15, family in shock, how did this happen

I knew reason, as a child, age of 5, didn’t fit in on this planet, called myself alien, not from this planet, couldn’t understand why people were so violent, abuse

family was holistic, spiritual, catholic, good food, natural food,

aspect of irony, very emotionally abusive environment

everything looking good, even sexuality, very open, about sexuality, nudity, about men walking naked in house

very interesting, great elements placed in my life, emotional part, missing out

became suicidal for 10 years, used to pray for the bad for me, pray for I don’t want to live, I want god to take me away

look at stars, when are you guys coming to pick me up, I can’t be on this planet any longer, in this body

feeling pain and suffering from other people

cancer, knew it was because I was asking that for myself

when it happened, discovered through appendix, pain in appendix in middle of night

heard voice, you asked to die, this is a taste of it, in shock

I asked this my whole life, now facing death, unknown pain, healthy girl, sports, competitive sports, eating healthy, doctor says I’m good

so good, camo emotional pain

facing death

this cannot be, I have my mom, my sister to take care of, at that age, I became the protector of my mom and sister from dad abuse

tough girl, stand up to dad, put him in place

shocking to be like, what’s gonna happen to my family if I leave this planet

wake up call, where is this going

I have to live, I have a purpose to live now

through that journey, went into deeper levels of spiritualism

shamanic realm,

candles, energy, homeopathic, still wasn’t integrated, still wasn’t there for me at my core

journey for 2 years, exploring and learning gnosis

science of knowledge, through journey, explore tantra, kama sutra, buddhism, hinduism, languages, golden languages, meditation, breath work, kundalini

beautiful healing process

didn’t go through kemo, radiation, any protocols, blessed at age of 15, recommended surgery, wanted to remove organs, live rest of life with feeding tube, probably wouldn’t be a live,

no I’m not doing that

path of holistic medicine

gonna heal it

I know why I did it, I know what’s going on, I’m gonna heal it

doctor looked at me like somebody possessed me

knew at that moment, my emotions that need to change, change perspective of life

must come to agreement with my body, be in harmony with myself

live in integrity with feeling

be able to be myself and love myself

love nature

love why I’m here

have a purpose in life

purpose to be on this planet

not waiting for alien friend to come pick me up

I’m hear on earth for a purpose, here to create something amazing, I’m gonna get there

that was the first awakening, catalyst during my life

we can study everything

all these books, watch all these videos, all these podcasts, and everything, information is great, but is not all of it

always excited to share with people, its important for us to take what we’re learning

look for message

integrate in life

integrative

takes time for us to really truly integrate what we have learned, experienced, discovered about ourselves

owners of our life

own knowledge we’ve been exposed to

what happened is that I moved to the us

knowledge of relationships

intimacy

met ex-husband

another wake up call

discovered self to go into insecure self, being loved

wanted to be chose, seen, got infatuated

seeing this person as my prince on white horse, rescue me of something

new in country didn’t speak english that well, husband was prince

used my own knowledge about energy

magic rituals, law of attraction, candles, crystals, influence energy, do moon rituals to make this person want me and chose me and love me, send gifts, messages

ended up with this person, had child, being married

7 years together, one of most toxic relationships of my life,

younger said I would never marry someone like my father

learning about boundaries, awareness, psyche, attracted so one who was very nice on the surface, deeper level anger issues, shadows

we all have shadows

integrate shadows to be able to heal

very toxic abusive relationship, after separation, process of divorce, domestic violence, custody

I was so infatuated, own power of influence, rituals, white magic, bring somebody in my life, happened to be I was actually doing dark magic against myself

karma got back to me really bad

not just toxicity we create being our selves, toxicity we allow other people to vomit on us when they have own issues own struggles

been working past 35 years of my life, turn 40 this year, awareness of emotions energy,

how we relating, what we’re creating, taking full responsibility for everything

embracing victim

get out of victimhood, step into empowered self

to be integrity, responsible, accountable

now in beautiful relationship, partnership

very blessed to have partner that is aware and conscious

past 5 years, explore things about myself, shadows, holding space

a person who has learned with me, together, hold space for our struggles

our shadows, darkness, weakness, strength

be there for each other, hold each other accountable, if we fuck it up

coming from place of love, seeing other person as amazing incredible being that they are

everything I create is based on what I have gone through in my own life

do share and teach and coach from what I have learned in my own life, 90% of my work, the remain from amazing mentors in my life

that’s my story

I am in this beautiful space, even though covid-19, beautiful space, grateful I have the tools to hold space for my emotions and feelings and allow myself to get upset, frustrated, tools for going from one energetic field to the next one, not suppress anything in my body

one of biggest issues, society, suppress everything, numb ourselves, alcohol, drugs

may not be prepared to face what must be faced

that is who I am,

here to answer any questions that you may have, conversation can be juicy

TP: archetypal, what humanity’s been going through

where do you feel the word patriarchy, critique of toxic masculine, be interested to hear about,

sophisticated analysis of the paradox of all these blessings, cursings, slight imbalance can take hold, skew path

antedote is in poison, wounded healer, personal insight, move people with your story, help them move beyond

meta narrative, story of how this world became as toxic as it is, environment, businesses, government, businesses collude, macro force, part of your story?

Tantric story of goddess, shiva shakti, demons in tantra, goddesses have to fight them with their powers, very symbolic of this imbalance of those energies

thoughts, how did we get here to this point of hell on earth

LG: I would say, we are actually living, hell is the most amazing place to purge what is not actually us, hell as the place where we can really learn so much about our self, blessing in there, really learn to know, what are we really made of, what are not made of

when it comes to working with masculine, feminine, patriarchy, matriarchy,

earth level, aspect of separation and division, polarized so many things, separation, division, see somebody that does not look like us, a lot of conditioning, programming happening, masculine, feminine, woman man, patriarchy, matriarchy, put ourselves in boxes, can’t really see the greater picture

I address aspect, not much of masculine feminine, see it from a more cosmic universal perspective, permission to feel energy, feel space, feels and vibration as they are without giving them any definition, naming, title

I have run close to 300 live events, at the beginning of running tantric events, working with masculine/feminine, many books, backgrounds tell us masculine is this way, feminine is this way

females crazy, chaotic, masculine more grounded

when we go from that perspective, we’re really conditioning everyone to act in a certain way, put people in boxes, even spirit in box, spirit can not be contained in a box

experiment, guide amazing people at events, festival, clearing statements, destroying all beliefs, everything we have learned, read, knowledge about masculine feminine, female male,

clear the energetic field in our space, to feel without description

very fascinating, okay invite you tap into your masculine, switch to feminine

honoring both aspects of self

feedback from people

when they got into the essence of space of just feeling the energy of masculine, totally opposite of what the book said, had this energy, that would be recognized as feminine, many times concept of feminine, feeling this energy supposed to be energies of masculine

the more we did this, did with myself, feeling in own body, recognizing masculine/feminine within myself

energies would flow, same and equal

on thing I got one of my meditation practices, degree of difference, related to the mind,

mind was the one that created the degree of difference, put in boxes

fascinating to explore that for years

honor concept of masculine and feminine, great beginning to start, but it’s not all this, so much more than that

invite individuals to come to source

come out of that separation of divinity as god/goddess, come higher than that

helping individuals to start recognizing energies

recognize energies

one of greatest things I experienced in life

less judgement, less tension, less disagreement, more acceptance, more compassion

talking about energy

not saying you’re the man, you’re supposed to this, do that

because I’m not seeing my partner of a title, box, see my partner as a free being

master of his energetic field

partner be able to hold space, container, instead of saying be more of man, more of masculine, I would say I need support, hold a container

I hold huge containers, working with trauma, must hold strong container

talk about aspect of energy, alignment with energies vs. what they’re supposed to do because of title

broader way of relating to somebody, do still address the aspect of conditioning about man and woman

thousands of years, patriarchy

we see dynamic, pretty much all about conflict of power,

programmed for thousands of years

getting out of programming

difference in gender, controlled in specific way, coming to this era of recognizing who we are more as a being, than gender

being itself

cosmic universal energies

no gender feelings. No polarization

energetic realms, really important for us to understand, yes we run into all these energies, universal energies, up to us which muscle we build

understand the psychological consequences of programming, who’s in power, who’s in control, who’s gonna dominate what

I would say more domineering, times

who feels that is lacking power, decides to control a population of society, vs their own struggles

I’m struggling and I don’t know my own power, I’m gonna be so domineering and toxic, control the one that’s weaker

the one that are strong I’m gonna make them weaker

fulfill own need of feeling important, significant, because I’m so disconnected from myself

what we’re seeing in society, a blessing in disguise

opportunity to see how much are we really disconnected from ourselves

TP: transcend gender binary, makes people defensive, partnership societies, now dominator societies, thousands of years, before there was more of a balance

first peoples, paleolithic peoples, hunter gatherers, different ways to look out how societies have evolved

when I discovered tantra, it worked for me compared to spiritual paths about austerity

tantra about passion, pleasure, full body experience

anthropology, return to balance of power

notion, idea that the simplist way I could explain tantra, dualistic dancing energies, can also be warring energies, within ourselves, inner marriage, inner alchemy, shiva, shakti, practice of tantra, kundalini rising, create triangle

two poles, meet at the apex of top of center of triangle, transcending the gender binary, merging into oneness with the god head/goddess

diagonal path, meet in the middle, be united, empowering narrative for transcending gender binaries, and so called war of the sexes

love that you’ve said the path of fire, first time of heard, beautiful way to do that inner work

do that shadow work

from your perspective what kind of paths of tantra have you explored, do you feel the promise is we can transcend duality

LG: fire is one of my favorite elements, my partner sometimes argue with me, really want to , there’s other path for alchemy

tantra, alchemical path, radical transformation of individual self, explore amazing awakening of sensuality, sexuality, pleasure, comes because we have to earn it, aspect of alchemy, we must earn it, element of fire

when you can look at the elements, water, destroy, wind destroy, hurricane, tornado, leave debris, chaos behind, earthquake using earth, leave chaos behind, fire, ashes left behind,

if you decide to destroy something that is not serving, the fire will destroy it

even biblical times, bible, the humans ourselves, created from ashes, go back to ashes, created from the dust, go back to dust, created from powder, go back to it

beautiful cycle, transform, must destroy, purity fire can offer to us

path of tantra, path of fire and alchemy and transformation, evolution, what we must destroy is everything we know, think we are, everything we are

allow ourselves to be reborn, into another aspect of ourself

TP: so honest, a lot of people in new age, want to sell some path, its usually they’re not forth right about the challenge of it, conflict, struggle, unpleasantness,

with tantra I appreciate the authenticity of it

marketing for people to want to clean up what they’ve been shoving under carpet to have incentive

combust toxic material, have greater love, warmth, the idea of composting, from gardening, turning your mind weeds into fertile soil for what you want to have their

emotions, thought forms

people running each other ragged in toxic relationships, that’s a lot of energy, could be used for magic, creativity, design, optimizing that

not all bliss bunnies

my friend said it best once, yeah people just want the “yums”

you won’t appreciate them unless you have the yucks too

LG: invite people to recognize, path of tantra, path of destruction, must embrace a destroyer, kali, a destroyer, for us to be able to plant a seed we must nurture the soil, but we have to destroy what was behind that, if you have weed on that soil, other things that doesn’t work, rock, you have to prepare it, that’s called destruction, destroy what was there to be able to prepare for what is coming,

we have to embrace the dark part of ourselves as destroyers, the shadow part of ourselves, really come to aspect of integration, tantra, shiva shakti, aspect of fusion, coming to oneness, cosmic universal unity that is so authentic, so connected with everything

beyond the matrix, beyond the cosmic, feel the heart beat of another planet, of orion, of another cosmos

connected to that realm, integration, fusion

same aspect must happen with dark and light

learning to love ourselves and our darkness, our shadow, learning to appreciate power of shadow, power of light

not about being a pleasure seeker, tantra about being an alchemical seeker

being of integrative evolution

not just about g-spot, orgasm, teach sex magic, yeah we can do that

but I have an awareness, I can teach you have to have great sex, kama sutra, how to touch the body, how to, techniques

TP: great introduction, riveted, a lot more to explore in future episodes,anything you want to share,

LG: luciagabriela.com, webinars, love after toxic relationship, online classes around how to create boundaries, manage and go from triggered to bliss, how to go from that experience to feeling more blissful, creating sensual alchemist training program

learning to embody sensuality, different aspect of archetype, also with shadows, powerful deep journey, decide to go deeper, go to core of what holding you back, stopping you from being who you are, intake form fill out, discovery call, complementary, see how I can help you, invitation is there

TP: blessed way to start my day, glad we’ve been about to connect, moving forward through time of crisis, take this time to start to do that work, reach out to folks doing this great work

 

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Heartfelt Honoring of Diverse Eco-Femininisms with Zanzibar TPP238

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In this episode I’m joined by my dear friend Zanzibar!

About Zanzibar:

Zanzibar is a para-activist, tropho-autonomist donacrat who has participated in sissi-fraternal, progressional sociopercolation for decades. A dedicated Gaiaolatrat and femineurorevolutionary, glomp* has cotextured the trance-linguistics of metre and assonance over great calendrical longitudes. Glomp is a standing-wave emergence from anonymity who shelters in polywombic noir.

 

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Debunking Religious Propaganda with Devika The Techy Tantrika TPP226

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In this episode I’m joined again by dear friend and tantric comrade Devika the Techy Tantrika for a review of the anti-Hindu, anti-yoga, anti-tantra religious propaganda film “Gods of the New Age”. We share notes on how we feel it is the like the Reefer Madness of tantra, and almost a classic satyrical mockumentary. Beyond the hilarity, we explore the importance of critical thinking and anthropological rigor in the study of culture and while comparing religions. I also express that I feel it has great value as a teaching tool to help future tantra seekers understand legitimate critiques of historical corruption within the tradition and movement, though with a healthy skepticism of the motives and bias of the film’s producers.

Check out our first episode for more info on her personal backstory:

https://tantrapunk.com/open-source-intimacy-with-devika-the-techy-tantrika-tpp131/

About Devika:

Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.

You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika

Follow her Instagram at:
http://www.instagram.com/thetechytantrika

You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com

Trick and Treat: Decoding Halloween with Devika the Techy Tantrika TPP219

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In this episode I’m joined again by Devika the Techy Tantrika for a Halloween themed show where we explore cross-cultural approaches to the spirit world beyond the veil of waking consciousness. We discuss the phenomenon known as “black tantra” and compare notes on how concepts of good, evil, occultism, and more are dealt with in various tantric traditions. We look at the degradation of spiritual intelligence in the modern world, and the implications of turning your back on the spirit world. We question the notions of dark and black as negative and take a less dualistic perspective on the diverse natures of demons. Our discourse on the mystery of the dark goddess Kali leads to an effort to understand and decode the famed history of sacrificial practices. I share a few sensational headlines from the Indian press on scary stories of gurus practicing business as usual black magic to help remind the neo-tantra “bliss bunnies” that patriarchy has plundered the more feminist ethics of ancient shaktism.

About Devika:

Devika J. Singh/The Techy Tantrika is a Tantric Sex and Self-Relationship Coach as well as a Performess. Her diverse creative endeavours as well as her views on holistic sex, intimacy, self-relationship and self-care have culminated into the one-on-one online coaching practice she has today. Devika’s unique take on traditional and Neo-Tantric practices along with her continuous dedication to providing commentary on tech trends that affect the way we date and intimately connect shine through in her YouTube video series where she provides Tantric sex and dating advice to her audience.

You can find Devika’s YouTube sex+dating advice video series at youtube.com/thetechytantrika

Follow her Instagram at:
http://www.instagram.com/thetechytantrika

You can also find out more about her coaching practice and writing at devika-singh.com

My Roots in Anarcho-Primitivism and Eco-Feminism TPP176

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In this episode I read an essay I wrote in my college years about 20 years ago called Freedom and Civilization: A Comparative Analysis. It provides a scientific and philosophical overview of some of the core tenets of anarcho-primitivism and eco-feminism.

I also share an in-depth intro, reflecting on the context of the time I wrote the piece, and some commentary on how my thinking has evolved since.

Sustainable Sexual Liberation with Francesca Gentille TPP24

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tp-francesca-gentilleFrancesca Gentille is the co-author of “The Marriage of Sex & Spirit,” the radio host of “Sex: Tantra & Kama Sutra”, and the Director of The Integrative Arts Institute.  She is a sex and intimacy counselor who presents internationally on the use of Sacred Eros and Sacred BDSM in recovery from trauma.

In this episode we discuss sacred sexuality’s past, present, and future by drawing upon anthropological data, our personal life experiences, and Francesca’s  wealth of knowledge and wisdom from years of amazing work in the field. She share’s her tantra life history of personal growth and development, then we explore many issues that are close to our hearts and minds. Ultimately she bestows as sense of great hope for sustainable sexual liberation, including the interpersonal and professional domains of sexuality.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin I want to thank you French biscuit in PA for joining me for episode number 24 of the township hunt podcast it’s a great honor to have you here as listen to all of your podcasts and follows your work and I’m just really excited and honored to be speaking with you so if you could give us some background on your sort of Contra life history and about what you’re up to these days I will take you so much bad for you including me in this and giving me an opportunity to share because I think that is a desire to make a difference and to do that we really need people like you who helped us get our message in our calling out to the world and Catholics in Wisconsin and there were those negative and conflicting messages about the body about sexuality about being a woman and if it’s meant is that I was only supposed to have sex once I was married that sex outside of marriage was a sin that in order to be thought of as a respect for a good woman I could always say no about sex and I should be very wary of anyone who wanted hit maybe even put their arm around your kiss me and I should also look at my body as a source of Temptation you know that my body could lead me astray and being raised with these kind of messages I became really terrified of sex and when I was he know dating age if a man with the very young somewhere around 1415 that if I kept going like this I would end up being frigid by the time that I’m married I would have been so patterned in my brain and in my responses around fear and sexuality that I wouldn’t be able to enjoy sexuality and so I began to start a process that I would later discover in Psychology is called successive approximation where I would hold in my mind that you have to be waking and sleeping. with Matt then I also was very very careful who I chose to date and partner with so that I have always chosen men really honored my pacing in the sexuality and if I want to go very very slow if I want to spend months or years kissing we’re just talking and I choose honor that and so I had the opportunity to incompetence lay next to a boyfriend naked without having sex just to become comfortable with the naked male by and I also was with someone from 14-223 that we really started out as friends and your friends three years friends eventually I absolutely loved him heart Body Mind and Spirit it was true very deep very sincere love not a crush and we eventually became lovers and had a very beautiful and vibrant and sweet sex life but it’s 23 he came out as gay which was profoundly shattering for me at that time and we’ll just started I think a deeper drive and curiosity how do they come together how do they make their choices is it are we gay or straight are we at 10 years later when we got together for a dinner I said you know how did it work that you identify as gay but we had this really virutex left and then I’ve had more sexual dysfunction issues with the men who might consider themselves heterosexual and he couldn’t that we had become so close you know a mental alignment the spiritual alignment alignment that we have become so close that there was a way to get my gender no longer mattered and the love they felt for me inspired ignited his erotic nature so his love for me was actually LED and his arousal for me was led by not his cock but by his heart never said a certain tone or even a certain standard for my sexuality that I would later years and years later cuz I didn’t really start studying until more probably my early forties that I would find out years later was there a contract that instead of leading with r instinctual neurobiological you know you smell like food let’s fuck you know rather than leading with that we learn to slow down we learn to be conscious of our breathing conscious of our responses your am I attractive am I judging you positively or negatively am I male or female arousal whether that’s 4 hours or whether that’s for a lifetime and that by having this experience in my you know 14-223 in a way it is started a pattern that would make a lot of sense when I got to Tantra is the sense of leading with the heart and letting the heart in form the rest of us rather than leading guess what are Primal nature another thing that I did start in my late twenties and early thirties started to study cross-cultural sacred sexuality so before I studied I was actually studying kind of sacred sexuality that was in that so for me personally although I will sometimes say I’m a I’m a tantra teacher because that’s easy to speak out of my mouth do you know Center teacher I really perceive myself to be a teacher and a coach that died around cross-cultural sacred arrows not just Eastern or Asian and I believe that sacred sexuality is our Birthright that it is interwoven into every single lineage of History whether we’re Jewish weather where you know of some sort of you know Arabic Middle Eastern it whether we’re European weather were African whether we’re Asian that no matter what our culture in which Mayan whatever our culture if we go back far enough we can see the anthropological shards of sacred sexuality in our tradition and I like knowing that I like researching that so that we don’t necessarily have to leave our Our Idiot I don’t have to stay at the stop being awesome beautiful awesome let’s do that but if we have to leave we don’t have to leave Christianity we don’t have to leave Judas and we don’t have to leave this why we don’t have to leave whatever tradition were part of to embrace sacred sexuality and so for me that’s very important one of the other things that I feel is very important for our listeners to know is there such a confusion between in the West End in the United States any kind of first world contemporary culture which I grew up with and feels kind of confused about how to relate to their body how to relate to the planet when we start to study in a western culture we had a tendency to focus on the body and sexuality but that. There really is a spiritual path and the goal is not a great sex life is actually the unconditional and compassionate acceptance of all that is it’s a spiritual path and just as it has a do you know who that the blissed-out recorder is not about having a great sex life this is about being incredibly compassionate human being and important people to know now look at my life compassion make a difference make a difference it make a difference if I could be compassionate about my body would it make a difference if I could be compassion about your body or about our sexuality and are our differences if I could hold this really deep compassion would that make a difference in our sex life it would absolutely so we’re now looking at something very different then you know what kind of positions can we do or what kind of position they’re breathing breathing tactics can we do to have a better sex life for a longer orgasm so the Kamasutra literally means the teachings, love to trace the teachings of the teachings about love and it was really like it was and is a spiritual path so such a nerd versus spiritual path and so I think you’re getting one we talked about Francesca’s what is Francesca’s history is it is very deeply personal experience that started a particular path and this very curious inquiring mind wanted to research cross-culturally and explore cross-cultural and still does and sit when I look at you know what am I teaching about sacred sexuality I look at everything from neurobiology psychology energy work Shamanism and teacher is teaching you their own jambalaya you know their own mixture of these little bits of what might be called classical control and lots of everything else that they know and so if you’re going to a tantra teacher it’s I feel it’s really important to ask them like you’re doing what is your background why did you choose this what do you think Nicole is what are your classes like and some country. Medic on her teacher’s sexual perspective and they have a strong bias toward polyamory and polyamory we intimate intimate ways but if you’re trying to go to class to improve your sex partner going to that Public House might actually disrupt your relationship even more so it’s important to know cuz it’s kind of like weirdest Entre come from in our country and what are might you be walking into and what do you need to ask I was starting to rain in Punta I recognized it as a sex and love addict and there was a way that I was approaching my relationship with men that was about getting my 6 and I didn’t know this because because I need to have lots of sex about two different people I wasn’t you know having sex with strangers and whiskey but what happened I had a boyfriend that broke up with me in the middle of my ARCA falling in love and usually you know as many human beings hear you fall in love in those first few weeks or months you if you stay up all night if you’re completely like you’re everything you can make love morning because that guy is actually not about the other person it’s about our own chemical dump in our body going off because something in that person that is triggered and when the drugs are stopping me it’s some it’s starting to look like you don’t touch me the way you used to do you treat me the way you used to it starts to look like the other person is prop and then after whether it’s after three months or 6 months or 9 months or two years whatever that was my power and then I would immediately fall in love with the next person so I can have that wonderful experience You’re My Favorite Drug high is a combination of love and lust just lust just love but if you put love and lust together you know that’s my heroin and so when he broke up with me in the middle of this Arc I couldn’t I couldn’t sleep I was just shaking this FYI girl this is not grieving this is withdrawals you’re going to waste all there when I recognize that fact I put myself into 12 step program for sex and love addicts anonymous American Airlines and they’re all so connected and juicy with each other videos of letting themselves go into this place of merging and high I’m having to practice Friday it was kind of like learning to be sober while spending time in a bar and it was hard my God that was hard and so I would have to work and work on my energy back but not being merged and it was hard but it created such a strong muscle so that now if I do he let you know if I’m doing a lot of killing four people if I’m doing Sexual Healing around there, I can touch their genitals I could touch their body they could be in a state of arousal and I’m not I’m not I’m not you know I’m not going to fantasize about that I’m available to hold a clear space for their healing that’s not about me and what I found is many many many people who call themselves doctors in bikinis and contracts and Country cuz for whatever reason they haven’t so when they are in those healing Simon’s with another person they ask to get very attached they actually are there on issues over the other person and can actually start to give pressure to the other person to be sexual and I’ve heard that over and over and over and over where he’s starting to give pressure like if you have sex with my badge or if you know you let me put my hand up your whatever you and the woman is not her pacing which is actually for her offense seeking Clarity from women Clarity that they never got from their mother Clarity that they have never gotten from their girlfriend and now they’re hiring and then wanting a very clear message pathway where they’re negotiating clearly about boundaries and boundaries are being held in there for something healing about the polarity and so if a country girl. Kitty says you’re in the first session we’re just going to bring together third session where I don’t you know we may never get to the genitals we won’t get to the genitals until the 4th he can relax Clarity with this woman and then she said to get excited by him and then she throws the boundaries out the door we can just go to this we can skip the three sections and just go to this right now he actually filled one day because she’s just replicated the same wording about the other women were unclear interchangeable so I think you’re starting to get a sense of me and my life to is that I’m really really drawn to where is there, where is there, in the body in the south in our ability to feel like our body our sexuality are our life is safe for us to be in and really I’m drawn to ask how can I support people to come home to their bodies in their lives in a way to three safe for them and very authentic for them and that’s that’s the kind of you know if we use one definition of Contra is the weeds that Hunter has a weaving and another way of saying leaving his illness is that’s the kind of from her that I’m drawn to is how do I support each individual to come into their holness and of course of course yeah that’s in my journey to you know how do I come into my home this how do I embrace all that I am including my desires in my Primal and my reactive the including my compassion in my Divinity how do I bring all of it in a way that is loving for me but is not harmful for others because this is also an issue that comes up in a sex-positive community a lot is your freedom freedom we’ve been so shamed by the culture region so limited by the culture I personally believe it that’s an immature attitude and that the child is struggling for three of the teenagers struggling for its freedom but when were an adult we understand we have responsibilities and that my freedom has to be limited by where my actions affect others so I may want to I want to dance and I’m a wanted flitter my music really loudly and can I have colored lights and it’s not fun for them so I need to either turn down my music but I need my freedom is limited by the fact that desire is going to create a negative impact on another human being it is not okay it is not mature adult to say I need this because it’s kind of my freedom we get to stay around the house with my you know music is so I would like to do that but as a mature adult that I need to collaborate with you how is it that work will you be out of the house like to just think when I’m single maybe they’re looking for a dump for relationship and I’m just looking for something really fun so my freedom when I balance my freedom with responsibility my freedom and my desire for Freedom my desires will still guide me but my maturity will allow those desires to be expressed gracefully and responsibly you’re getting a little bit of my soapbox here is that Peter Peter Pan not allowing themselves to mature and do I want to love my body I want to look like I prove that every single desired vanity I have to approve it I want to create a pro but there’s a difference between loving myself so whatever comes up in my little mind and taking action on what I’m thinking I’m going to give you different examples I had a question just really hard wanted to work with and I was 20 or 21 at the time and I didn’t know about boundaries I didn’t know how to really express myself and I felt very powerless in that situation and I would go home and I didn’t know what to do with all that anger really that I had towards her and I came up with a really great idea that I was going to allow myself to fantasize about killing her did I ever harm her no no I never I never did anything for me to kind of this place some of my anger and not take it out on her I sign up for the confusion of a sex positive culture between what I would call a personal fantasy something that I’m going to keep in my mind in my mind and display some energy by having it. Maybe would be really lovely maybe I have a fantasy And my partner’s at the time and I ended up going to a very warm ocean and it was the perfect fantasy to bring into reality this is what I have in some but I’m not going to mention I don’t want them to be brought into another example is I have a fantasy about rafting me at sunset in a beautiful blue silk down get this like sailing into the bay at Sunset and the wind is blowing in his hair and come to the beach and no wake me up in his arms and take me on the road back to the back to the ship in my fantasy somehow he’s able I’m walking along the beach with my dress never gets wet he gets to the beach he puts me in the rowboat we go back to the ship where are the ship and I never get seasick and it in real life I actually get seasick very easily I never even though he’s being great he does not get ripped and it’s now folded neatly next to us even though my back is on the wooden plank of the. I do not get splinters in my fantasy it all works beautifully but I’m smart enough to know that if I try to do that in reality my dress would get ruined and I be kissed I get splinters and that would not make me happy and I probably get seasick the wisdom of of the Amazon and and Beyond and so is that something that you have I just thought I remember reading somewhere you know or talk to you at some point about how this is so like you could be hired by the more formal above ground and sectors of social work or Community work with where you can be brought in to bring some of the stuff that would normally be or I guess it’s just it’s a very interesting Cutting Edge of an intersection and I if I’m not mistaken that’s that you you are like sort of partially in that world 2 of of social work or is that something I understand correctly or social worker social worker y’all are layout string this conversation back and see where where I where I am placed social work as well as all the modalities of counseling and healing you know like they are all part and parcel to supporting and upholding status quo capitalist system so I’m going to like you know like you know also having been in the punk scene also had a big impact on my my party now thought you know in terms of healing these wounds we have to look at that you know we can’t we can’t say like that are healing is going to be independent of a world that is reeling and suffering from the continuation of this system as it is and so that’s where I for me like bringing capitalism into the equation is is something that’s real tricky it’s something that I feel needs to be kind of understood that you know we we can’t just rely on having sting services that we can pay for because that creates a gap you know where some people are going to have accessible abilities to to the healing and others won’t and that’s that’s not healthy for anyone and and also that it doesn’t address the root cause of why we need social workers to begin with and why we need counseling and all of that so I really like the notion of cultural healing that’s where more where I would be comfortable in any way kind of looking at myself as any kind of healer I don’t think we we can really heal individuals that’s really something that you know a person will need to and it’s not like they can be facilitated to do their own healing work but nobody can fix us we have to fix ourselves that’s that’s more I think a more powerful Paradigm to be apart of but you know I I I have worked in the realm I focused therapy and you know I have spent quite a bit of time around the spirit plant medicines and seeing how the plant medicines have assisted and I do I do continue continuously work to increase my knowledge and wisdom around working with us plants and and that also brings us back into that hole realm of discussion around you know ancestors and working with them or perhaps that’s something we haven’t really touched upon but maybe she said it’s just that in any form of healing that we do I guess for me the important thing that I really try to bring into whatever I do connecting back with her ancestors and healing the trauma of how we were disconnected from those ancestors and how that plays out in any kind of sexual wounds or emotional wounds that we carry and so that’s something that I I I feel like the role of initiation and ritual can can really do and that’s that’s been its Province ever since people began doing patrols I think it’s to build upon the legacy of their ancestors and to draw and their their help and support cool said that yeah thank you for helping me understand the other parameters a little better and and 100% there with you I have I have been because I live in the United States where there’s different laws around no prostitution in in how that affects the healing with sexual touch and pleasure as medicine and stuff like that is a lot more yes I understand in in Canada there’s there’s a lot more interesting legal space in order to do Hands-On Sexual Healing work relative to the US where it’s completely off limits in so I because of that adapting to that reality and also is a permaculture designer myself I have to think very deeply about how to navigate this issue of for-profit healing work that kind of in most sectors is about like you said I’ll put in my own words it’s like they want to know if if the if you’re at a time of time robot that supposed to be producing a set amount to be a productive member of the of the GDP then then if you’re not functioning properly than the the goal of the mainstream social work or psychotherapeutic or psychiatric Fields they’re trying to get you back into the rat race as soon as possible and they’ll do that with drugs with talk therapy or whatever that is about avoiding through tissue which is the disconnection from urethane from a healthy holistic wild habitat you know a night as a primitivist I see that you know the solution to your Neurosis is to retry belies and Get Growing your own food again in and rebuild that fabric so you know there with you on that tension about right livelihood in and taking money for healing and what is he doing so I really like what you said and that just is going to it’s going to help me a lot looking at healing the cultural level and healing the if I’m understanding right and I’ll put a couple my own words on it but I feel like we’re trying to build the scaffolding or were trying to design the context for people to take the responsibility of a personal healing and gone to that journey and so if you if what would you say are some practical skills are tools from all of your things that you would teaching and training and a things that you discovered in your own journey to where you’re in power tools for empowerment that you suggest or are resources that you suggest people Explorer to if they’re called to do the cultural healing work weather for profit or non-profit. Some dance between the two or it and then what what are some recommendations for people who are on their own path and aren’t necessarily called to do the the cultural healing yeah I mean it’s it’s a pretty vast subject that one but I think that a few points that I could think about and talk about our that I’m going to this idea of bringing you back in the station rights and recognizing that in the absence of them what do we have you know we are we are sadly in there without initiated Elders so many of us and if there are any of Elders that hold that ability to to guide those those ones are those are worth their weight in gold you know there really is people that we should try to lift up and and give them their recognition and see you know and then in the absence of that it’s like we kind of by default Our Generations people that will have to hopefully fulfill that and reach a place where we can actually help upcoming generations to go in a way that they don’t have to completely go it alone and and figure it out on them on their own the way that so many of us have had to and so there is a movement around Rites of Passage I sit on the board if you passageways which is a network that focus is squarely on you no Rites of Passage for you coming of age from all different walks and and and modalities you know some of them are our Boys to Men oriented some of them are girls to women some of them are starting to incorporate non gender binary kind of approaches as well which is good and and this whole focus on bringing back the ancestors into looking at Rites of Passage is is starting to happen and something that I focused on and so that’s that’s a resource you know people can go to youth passageways. Oregon and look at what programs are out there and they can also think about how they can add to that list and bring in things that are needed around especially around sexuality and relationship which is often I noticed kind of a big gap in a lot of programs out there you know because they’re confined confined or constrained by the conservative values where they take place and you know what school system is you know this is one of those places lagging for that kind of thing so it’s a role that I think that many people who understand the need can step into and cultivate as career paths you know and some people are pig figuring out how they can weave their credentials says on Sexual Health Educators or sexual therapist or sexual trauma or no trauma-based therapists you know into this realm of initiation and that’s that needs to happen on a on an increased level the other I see a lot of because of what I was saying around looks really don’t how many Avenues to learn other than through you know what the books in the workshops and offerings around sexuality thoughts unfortunately are not rooted in in people’s only need two lineages generally speaking you know so the whole Tantra movement is pretty much so you know a cultural appropriator of New Age fight version of those Traditions that would have been squashed by Christianity especially and so I think there’s work to be done there and as much as possible Retreat retrieving reconstructing are reconnecting with our own ancestral Traditions which I’m sure you know had their own knowledge wisdom around how to how to raise healthy harmonious individuals with healthy sexualities from from the vantage point of how what little I do know has been has been done in indigenous cultures and without wanting to appropriate for them from them I’ll just give way of examples out of that you know in and certain cultures that are studied like the Mayan culture and I think to some degree on certain places within Creek culture there’s examples of how as societies you know that the children are raised from an early age 2 reach a point where they understand how to how to harmonize with the other sex and how to to look after each other and that’s just a very basic principle that I feel like you know that’s that’s worth kind of learning how to integrate into our family structures if we have children that were raising just to keep in mind that you know there is a need for them to learn skills around things like consent and around being responsible with with one’s sexual energies and and I needs to start before they reach that age of adolescence where they’re just harder to connect with if you haven’t built up that Foundation so that’s something that I think about will do you so if I if if we check out that the organization that you mention is it would that be good place to find and something like a more enlightened or more conscious like sexual education curriculum or guidebook do you know if people were working on something like that so if I know if you know parents who were going through the puberty of their child that they have something that’s not just this cold clinical Western and even though that sort of evolving a little bit you know with things like a sack didn’t and whatnot I see a lot but the The ancestral wisdom and you know the ceremonial Rites of Passage you know how does it how does the Modern Family say okay well you’re about to start feeling you know hormonal Energy’s how do we give you know create even if it’s just within their family or their Community yoga or whatever is something more than what’s being offered in the normal sex ed or what they’re listening in gangster rap music and watching on sitcoms obviously you know it’s enough for lack of lot of alternative options it’s one one place to look and we’re always looking for others so whenever we discover something then we will see to auditory resources and we are trying to vet those resources and those organizations to make sure that they really are you know at least there’s some some level of you know safe recommendation that we can give for those those organizations we’re not we’re not in the position to really kind of completely you know set standards but we are trying to we have a code of what we call it a cross-cultural protocol so we do look at that aspect that you have for what we’re talking about that’s you know if that’s another layer that we will hopefully get to eventually and I do know that there are people within our Network who are really strongly focused on this particularly around girls to women kind of education and and Rites of Passage and some of the Boys to Men once but I think it’s also something we need to to enhance as well oh that’s great yeah that’s that’s that’s what I wanted to hear so that I can just refer people to this ongoing and so and then the LSI is kind of its there’s a Facebook I’ve been interacting with the the Facebook group for a while so is that something you recommend people plug-in I mean that’s the goal of that is to feature blogs and generate discussions from those blogs and also to establish a resource of services as well as information and so that’s you know running on in a very limited volunteer capacity and so you know it’s something that I hope will eventually become a very powerful resource but already it’s you know it’s been feedback that I’ve received that you know even just the the group that we have on Facebook somebody posted recently. You know it’s really help them in their in their path which is nice to hear and I’ve heard that a few times and I try to curate that group in such a way where it’s like you know it’s trying to generate discussion and it’s it’s trying to be a safe space where where people can get into some of those I’m intimate revealing is of what what’s going on in their lives one of the things that kind of came out of love sex intelligence local as a connection with Tamara and the love school that they have which is a very congruence philosophy to love sex intelligence and they’re their work to try to create or with to create safe spaces for people to to share stories of what’s going on in their intimate lover sexual lives and and B witnessed in a way that is non-judgemental where they’re not being flooded with advice but more just being witnessed which is kind of connected to that whole framework for Rites of Passage itm witnessing each other and so it’s it’s trying to also look at how you know communities can succeed in their in their goals which might include you know like being more sustainable or being an alternative to the systems around us and also being a part of a more peaceful kind of culture through filling this hole that is often where things go wrong where people are are are not feeling safe to talk about these these human experiences around wounding around are our hearts and our sexuality so I’ve been part of a Practice Group here that has been circulating also to other parts of BC and I think it’s a really it’s a really powerful movement to be a part of yeah we’re getting close to an hour or so I have to take a few more minutes and I’m get a couple thoughts and feelings some responsible for 1 something that his is coming up for me that I think it’s really empowering is this like idea that wouldn’t it be nice if some of us started to think of ourselves as aspiring Elders I’ve never thought of it that way until this conversation and there’s a little spark of joy and me that that says you know puts in context the the punk rock lifestyle that I had of live fast Die Young and just you know if it’s not throwing yourself into the meat grinder of insurrectionary activism you know with this sort of Death Wish you know this martyr complex or whatever it’s like those are really unsustainable archetypes to follow and they leave a lot of people when they get to my age in about 35 like in a sort of existential crisis that will the revolution didn’t happen and I didn’t get killed I didn’t die in the gutter you know I mean what am I going to do now and it’s like well maybe it’s time to become an aspiring Elder and you know clean up your act and and then start to think about how you’re going to make it easier cuz I there’s a lot of things that I had to go through that I would seriously love to have no one else ever have to go through and if you know if we can live in that. you know that is what you’re supposed to think that I think of you say you know you can you can learn from the wisdom of Elders who have gone through and made the mistakes that you’re probably going to go through or you can just be hard-headed and learn all your lessons the hard way but I mean we’ve had to learn a lot of hard lessons in the absence of the eldership but I think if we take on that there’s a yeah me too. It seems obvious but really the way you put it his medicine for me to think you know it’s a dignified path to be an aspiring Elder and then it makes you not be so how do I can help you defeat that that that grinding pressure that oh my I’m going to lose my looks and I’m going to lose my energy and I’m going to be in the state of deprecation towards death and that’s very much the greatest fear of the western manicured Uno photoshopped airbrushed identity like you’re not really giving any hope that aging will be of any benefit in here just marginalized further and further so I thank you for that serve very much still give that time sacred eldership dignity not a light title to hold I think the true Elder wouldn’t really feel comfortable in it cuz it’s defining attributes of an elder that is really one that can help that role be the best it can be is one that is is really accountable is really present isn’t so on the move that if you can’t you know be relied upon to be there for the people that it serves now needs to ideally be in the in the fellowship of other Elders to kind of keep it in in in check in a way like we have to watch for the Cole group kind of phenomenon where people you know place a lot of weight on that person and in a way that can privilege them in certain ways and also lead to potential like power distortions and things like that you know it’s it’s only human that people will make mistakes and so having that kind of accountability of other people and also that time yeah you have people heart or a different there’s always like in every phase of life with the lifecycle there’s there’s like the maturing phases and so there’s like you know there’s a baby elder there’s enough adult Elder and then Senior Elder and so it’s just we have to learn at each stage of Life how to become the mature version of what that stage is and says just something to think about as well and it’s good to to get your feet wet early on in life so that you know we can have deep roots and and the and those are the kinds of people to like in the Tamara situation out of the black community they have a circle of Elders who are basically people who have grown with a community enough that they know the people in their community and then they serve a role as potential kind of like the Matchmaker but you know in a way where people can approach them in and ask them like you know I’m interested in this person and they can help you assess whether this is the right time or what is a good or bad idea and you know they can kind of that. Whole courtship in a way that you know really I think I wish there were more of those people around here don’t you let me relax you know learn the hard way what does that we’re just not compatible certain people in The Matrix the I mean yeah I’m not I’m not a political scientist of the Matrix but I will say that what got me peaked on the ecstatic trance dance group ritual ceremony festival thing was it really when I saw I think it was maybe the second movie or maybe it was the second or the third but there was a scene where they’re just getting down to like Juno Reactor I think was a soundtrack of a butt there is something beautiful about seeing the different the warrior culture Guided by elders and of course there’s different the archetypes playing out in Conflict split that to me was took it further than then the Star Trek Federation is a futuristic Elder guided Council guided kind of reality so that was kind of fun but yeah so that’s what came to mind when you’re at we’re talking about that be so cool if you’re early sexual oracle’s who you go to you know if we’re going to give you insights and maybe even have name your child for you or something cool like that you know be so cool but right on then will I worry about at the hours so do you have any closing touch you want to share or any other resources or should we just I’ll post the the links that you mention and I’ll definitely encourage people to stay informed and keep an eye out for your anything coming up you have any appearances or anything exciting like that coming up you want to mention I think yeah I think I covered a lot of it and I just wanted to maybe plant a seed while I have the airwaves here about something that I’d I’d eventually like to work on presenting which is around insert Intercultural relationships and also decolonizing our relationships as well and just thinking about how how we can heal some of these ancestral traumas and use that has as as a means to strengthen our relationships and also our society right on I’ll be looking forward to everything that you’re you’re expressing in the world and I hopefully yeah maybe sometime in the future we can talk about skill sets for Beyond Christian monogamy that would be a great topic so yeah how would you feel about that maybe we can sometime in the next few months follow up with something like that. Maybe by the by the time I’ll have more of a personal lived experience to a base conversation around that I think you know in terms of people who are already I don’t know how many listeners here are on a Christian spiritual path without that many but if the energy and gnosticism and sacred marriage not going to the alchemical top in the in the Gnostic tradition but I I wouldn’t make any claims to be an expert in that area but it’s definitely something to look at cool alright then we will be in touch and will follow up sometime in the future and thank you so much so be I really enjoyed it and I know it’s taking us a while to get this to get this done but I think it was perfect and I couldn’t ask for anything more so you have a wonderful day. 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Punk and BDSM as Cultural Scabs TPP20

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green-house-promThis is an opinionated piece I wrote a while back attempting to analyze punk and bdsm in a historical context from an anthropological perspective.

It’s an open ended questioning of what aspects of these two subcultures would be voluntarily perpetuated into the future once the social, ecological, and sexual liberation we fight for so desperately is finally achieved.

Punk and BDSM as Cultural Scabs

I live to smash patriarchy from the bedroom to the boardroom by teaching men and women the anthropological history and prehistory of human domination. For 99% of our species’ existence we lived in nomadic egalitarian hunting/gathering bands. Without being settled, controlling territory/property and without producing male controlled productive surplus, we shared power equally. However approximately 10,000 years ago, some human cultures began to form permanent settlements, domesticate plants and animals, and stratify into authoritarian classes. Starting around 5,000 years ago, the first fortified settlements were built, we now call these war based settlements “cities”. Civilization is thus the process by which once relatively peaceful and equal societies have either enslaved themselves, animals, and the earth, or have been conquered and enslaved.

Anthropologically I see the BDSM movement as an attempt to bring the underlying trauma of civilization and industrial slavery into creative, healing, social contexts. We “play” with the gender roles and power dynamics that the dominant culture forces us to “work” within. It’s the only way to gain a sense of self-determination and sovereignty in a world that’s out of control.

The movement also reclaims the primal, ancestral need to achieve group states of ritualized ordeal induced altered ecstatic states.

I believe that most fetishes are a cultural immune responses that are reacting to the pathology of religious/agricultural/industrial/corporate domination and exploitation.

From a radical/eco feminist perspective, I advocate conscious active resistance to the patriarchal paradigm. It is my hope that we’ll reject and redesign war based urban environments and economies so that they nurture the earth and the feminine principle. A great resource on the rise of patriarchal dominance, and the conquest of peaceful goddess worshipping cultures is the documentary “Goddess Remembered” http://www.nfb.ca/film/goddess_remembered/

In my experience, the most powerful weapon in the struggle for liberation of the feminine divine, is the application of Tantra. A Tantric renaissance would provide the sexual/social/psychological technologies needed to break the spell of submission to the masters of patriarchy.

The rebalancing of earthly and divine masculine and feminine energies would ultimately relieve the contorted pressure built up in our individual psyches and most fetishes would fade out of existence. I think it’s worth questioning the voluntary perpetuation of certain forms of kink that in effect reproduce the pathology of the dominator culture.

When we return to natural balance, shed industrial slavery, reforest, rebuild soil, and reclaim our birthright to thrive on a peaceful Edenic garden planet by design, we’ll no longer need to “process” through BDSM. We won’t have as much dammed, frustrated, twisted pain trapped in our nervous systems needing to be constantly exorcised.

We can identify and salvage the transcendent primal aspects of body modification, deprivation, bondage, ordeal, shamanic trance, etc. and bury the medieval torture aesthetic.

I feel the same way about punk rock. A lot of punks had sell out ex-hippie parents (like in the movie Pump Up the Volume). They couldn’t understand why we made loud, aggressive, abrasive sounding music. They wanted to create a groovy world of peace and serenity and made a tie-dyed, bongoed, sandaled subculture to strive for their ideals within during the late 60s.

By the late 70s, the punk rock movement, taking the radical politics to a further extreme, created a dark reactive aesthetic that presented the Jungian “shadow” of the collective unconscious. Punk is a cultural scab on the festering wound of the failure of the 60s. It’s as if to say, okay mom and dad you tried peace and love, got your asses kicked by riot police, lost momentum when your leaders were jailed, and after the war, your movements dissolved and you rejoined the suburban rat race…you sold out…so In this generation, it’s “no more mister nice guy! Punk is going to get raw, in your face, dirty, nasty, angry, vulgar, negative, hostile, critical, uncompromising, threatening, violent, destructive, fatalistic, etc.

In the U.S. the punk movement is perhaps the most privileged and apathetic, however throughout Latin America, Europe, Southeast Asia and beyond, the revolutionary punk movement is a serious political force.

It’s debatable whether punk will bring down the system and deliver total liberation to the masses world-wide. But it’s worth engaging in the thought experiment: what if somehow magically, punk did succeed. What if it did fulfill it’s ultimate mission: to create sustainable autonomous anarchy to be managed by small retribalized self-sufficient collaborative communities?

What if the punks won? For how long after the victory would all of that angst exist, would their be a toxic polluted war-torn world to base the militant/skull/bullet-belt reactive aesthetic on? Or would all of those memes just fade out of cultural memory?

That’s why I say that both BDSM and punk are cultural scabs. They reflect the dominator culture, they are a tactical weapon against the dominator culture, and they help us cope and grapple with the predicament of being trapped within the dominator culture. But when the dominator model is once again restored to a partnership model, the scab will flake off, giving way to a scar; a scar hopefully big enough that we’ll never be able to forget it and forever carry the wisdom not to make the same mistakes.

When the scab flakes off, what will our transcendent group sexual rituals look and feel like? What will our once dark and abrasive music sound like? I don’t think we’ll be singing Kum Ba Yah in bell bottoms and bandanas. But we will be singing and drumming around camp fires.

In the deep primitive future, we’ll once again be the highest expression of the local ecology. We’ll be the “most beneficial element in the natural system”, rather than the most destructive. Our sexual energy will flow freely and will be guided by the wisdom of shamanic elders, not dammed and twisted by scriptures.

I ask the BDSM scene, which revels in the perpetuation of dominator themes and memes: what role shall we play in this epic moment of opportunity to recreate authentic ecological partnerships with the land beneath our feet? Can we not apply our biological exuberance, fiery passion, and long list of technical and craft skills towards building eco-villages? If a percentage of time and energy was applied to growing our own produce, raising our own meat, catching our own rainwater, composting our own waste, managing our own wood lots, building our own earthen shelters, etc. would we not distribute the load of frustrated energy that contorts our psyches to the point of chronic sexual perversion?

I’m not judging anyone’s fetish, I’m just doing as Timothy Leary advised and questioning everything. Every phenomenon, physical or cultural has a historical context. There was a time before “x” came into being, and there will be a time after. What is the historical context of these bizarre fetishes that have seized upon us? Did they have a functional adaptive advantageous evolutionary utility for our ancestors living in the wild? I think when you peel back the current historical layer, the answer is absolutely yes. But again the need to “ex-state”, to access non-ordinary states of conscious was met by transcendent rituals, rites of passage, ceremonies, controlled induction of pain and ordeal.

So called primitive cultures are filled with freakish practices, so I’m not saying stop getting turned on by pretending to be a dog. I’m just asking, how can pretending to be a dog be brought out of the dungeon and become a healthy part of the fabric of a sustainable tribal culture? Might it morph into a more traditional form of masked totemistic story-telling dance? (see The Spirit of the Mask: http://youtu.be/DtT82PAHZr8).

Towards the evolution of deep ecologically correct, kink-friendly, shameless, free, neo-tribal cultures!