In this episode I’m blessed to be joined by Revered Teri Ciacchi MSW a leader in the eco-sexuality and sacred sexual healing movements. Teri takes us on an adventure through a colorful playful personal narrative that weaves together a beautiful tapestry of initiations and revelations. Teri’s deep, rich, and diverse array of offerings are a great pleasure to explore and I have to say that Teri’s work in the area of facilitating safer/sacred group sexual healing ritual with best practices in mind is the most comprehensive and thorough I’ve yet discovered, I salute and bow down to Teri’s great works. To learn more about the Aphrodite Temple, please listen to this extremely empowering and invigorating podcast:
Reverend Teri D. Ciacchi, MSW Ecosex Celebrating Lover Earth, an event being held on Orcas Island Summer Solstice 2018 is taking up most of the Reverend’s time right now. Being Teri includes being the relational matrix of the Living Love Revolution, being a holistic sex educator, a Priestess of Aphrodite, a leader of the EcoSexuality movement, and an EcoMagicks practitioner. We have been generating CascadiaHolistic Peer Counseling system since 1997, holding Aphrodite Temples since 2000 and co-created Surrender:The EcoSex Convergence from 2013-2017. In July 2017 she started Interdependence and Autonomy LLC, a for profit business that builds consent culture by healing conflict through education and legal advocacy, creating consent-centric events. Reverend Ciacchi looks to Nature for guidance and wisdom. She translates the teachings she receives from mycelium (mushrooms), bees and stardust into useable social skills for human beings. They lead collaborative workshops and events that honor the innate connections between humans and the Living Earth. Recent publications include essays in the books: Ecosexuality: When Nature Inspires the Arts of Love and Queer Magic. You can find her works at the following websites:www.LivingLoveRevolution.org www.ianda.space www.AphroditeTemple.com and www.ecosexorcasisland.org.
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Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 150 I am being joined by Reverend Terry Diane we is a matrix of the living Love Revolution and the Eco 6 movement in Cascadia also the hierophant of the Aphrodite Temple and we will be unpacking all of those lovely titles momentarily I just want to give a personal introduction I got to meet Terry several years ago at a lovely kind of green tantric Magic Ritual where we made these blessed seed balls and really mixing the spirit and the technology of permaculture with the spirit technology of timeshare which is what this show is absolutely all about so obviously I was thrilled to meet back then and then over since I move back to LA that was in Portland I have been prompted by one of my dear friends to reconnect and invite Terry to be on the show and in that process I discovered what I think is one of the most important and vital fundamental groundwork laying interviews to talking about the perils and the promise and the the glory and the the horse really if I’m trying to organize successful well vetted Sexual Healing rituals that are I say very well curate did not overly hierarchical or cultish you know Sex Magic healing ritual groups and just the Practical nuts and bolts if you’ve ever wanted to understand you know best practices for that kind of stuff which is you know what I am really guided to to assemble this like best practices medically spiritually sexually politically all of these economically all these factors come into play so someone is really got a lot of experience with that and we’ll get into that later is Terry so I’m so thrilled to just be able to In This Moment I’ve really been praying for this for for quite a while so I’m really thrilled and with all those things said Terry please share with us your personal background your story will also get into the Eco sex movement and the and the the other good stuff first of all let me just start by saying that it’s an honor to be interviewed and to speak to someone who clearly understands the breadth of what I’m doing and I was really moved by your sharing your personal history of recovering from your childhood most of us don’t most of us do not have a chance to actually fully heal or I mean most people in what I call the feeling we were cultural deconstruct at the minute we never get to fully self we don’t I have a whole theory about sexual self development you know people talk a lot about psychological development but because our culture is so fearful and so specifically body phobic sex phobic we don’t really have very much opportunity to unwind the deeply traumatised the sexual initiation experiences most of its have had and you know we know just some statistics in social work and psychology that the majority of adults have deep unhealed traumas around sexuality but for me myself knowing that both that sex is a sacred thing and that that it is opportunity there are not many many many opportunities to explore Bliss and ecstasy in these physical bodies and I think that we have an obligation just because we’re born and we have these bodies to come to a place and create social experiences where that Bliss and see can unravel its potential and fully bloom in our lives and so I I feel personally charged by the goddess Aphrodite and by Guy other and the beauty of the Planet of the natural world to insist that I create spaces and places and opportunities for people to actually have sexual sovereignty and actually enjoy their bodies as fully as they can during the span of this short mortal coil you know so it’s wonderful to be able to speak to somebody that I believe has a capacity to understand what it is that I’m doing our culture is so I should say our country but were born into is so toxic that it’s a miracle that any of us ever find each other or have the opportunity to be in a loving kind peaceful consent Pacific space together and so that’s all just to say again that I’m honored to have stopped to speak to you and to speak to your community so thank you very welcome thank you so I’m going to be just the first two paragraphs from my essay golden waves and Priestess bodies establishing a queer Centric poly normative Aphrodite cultist in Cascadia and a lot of the language and addresses in here I’ve had to invent a lot of language I mean why do I say queer Center in poly normative because there aren’t words that I could just say one word and you would get what that means right away right it’s only because we’re living in a really impressive culture that we have to invent new words for our experiences because our experiences are outside the cultural norm so very important acts of magic that I learned from reading books by Bell hook Bell hooks is to from margin to Center and specifically records in her book from margin to Center is to put our own experiences in the center of our worlds and to speak from that Center as if it’s totally fine for clear poly animist witchy people to exist and to be generating their own culture you understand yes so the culture we were born into and grew up with in USA neoliberal capitalist racist sexist hegemonic oligarchic culture can be referred to as be fading Uber culture this feeding agriculture is not for me and resisting The Fading agriculture is exhausting and does not provide enough pleasure as pleasure activists we want to focus on creating more of what we desire which is an intimate community of gender varied friends and lovers who are magical practitioners focused on creating new ways of being loving humans insect we find ourselves at war or odds with the culture we were born into because that culture does not have a place for us over culture does not even have words that we would choose to describe or accurately convey our own internal experiences of divinity love and sex and so we must invent new words we must use different pronouns in search of ourselves and our culture we have gone through a series of the comings and ongoing unfolding of self that have inspired us to invent and send her our own understandings language and definitions of what the central mysteries of divinity love and sex are and can be the use of the pronoun we throughout this essay in my speaking is an intentional and admittedly unique usage the intention is to express my internal experience of being a collective of beings a Multiverse of personas an individual embedded in an ecologically web of relatedness it is impossible for me to separate myself and that’s in quotes from a complex interweaving and histories of one the sex positive and queer ancestors of choice to biological blood ancestors of DNA Family Heritage three the internal environment of my body that include biotta neural networks and assimilation of animals and plants is food for the fluidity of ideas conversation and activities shared within and between the many people in my community S5 the fluids and bodies I exchanged when being sexual with others and six the lived environment of my physical existence taken in by my body sensory precepts it is also incredibly important for me as an ecosexual animist to approach the non-human persons around me as an integral part of myself so while the use of the pronoun we for self-reference is Clumsy it is also for me the most truthful and authentic so that’s just kind of an introduction of why would use we which is plural as a pronoun and this essay which I’m not good anymore of for you is from a book called queer magic power beyond boundaries it was edited by Lee Harrington anti Phoenix police tend to amazing powerful gender Blended beings who I admire very much and I’m grateful to know and be close to we get another I have so much privilege and Grace in my life that all of these amazing magical beings are connected to me and my silly don’t matter what I call the mycelium at the rise Ematic polycule set we all send our lives around tie is a person what is a personal assistant genius incredible human being who knows a lot about alchemy and who went through my Aphrodite Temple Priestess system and evolved in Hyde off and got a new shade in and became hierophant and they do something called T which is a temple of erotic Alchemy and it’s such a thrill to be able to Mentor people into their own power and then get to stand next to that I work with them hopefully for the rest of my life there are amazing and I just wanted to not do that do you not think it is awesome please continue another person that I work closely with is Christian Thomas and her website I think it’s called the rewilding still but she’s about to debut an amazing project called the one woman podcast where she has put together a series of wonderful intimate Dynamic powerful stories and what she did was use the quote from Muriel rukeyser from a poem that was in part of second-wave feminism in the early 80s where they quote what would happen if what if one woman spoke the truth about her life the world would split open and then she interviewed me and a lot of other women and said what would you if you could make one sentence out of the truth of your life what would it be and I said my trees right now is that we are the midwives of the new aeon and this time of transformation it is our time and so she put that sentence as the opening background music for the opening of her podcast and that’s coming out on Mother’s day which is wonderful also look for that because I think it’s not only just inspiring the same power a lot of people I’m saying all that because I believe it is true that I’m a midwife or the new am I think that were in a spectacular time in which for me the word apocalypse means the removing of the veil I think that the current presidency is a very clear example of a an increasingly Stark division between classes and increasingly star division between people who want to drag us back words to try to preserve their culture which is dying which is again I call the fatty liver culture and those of us who have been intent our entire lives on creating new worlds focused on love consent in peace an S at you know we’re here in this beautiful setting on Orcas Island were at the place where we’re going to be having an event called ecosex celebrating leather Earth which is June 20th through 24th and part of the way that I worked is at wherever the new venue for my work is which I arrived at through magical practice and meditation and speaking with my gods and ancestors whatever that place is that I get the calling to go I go into velop a relationship with the land and with the venue house and with the land comes information about beings that died there with the land comes connections from my own ancestry here on Orcas Island there obviously were Native indigenous peoples the Lummi people specifically lived here for a long time and we’re driven out in the 1890s pushed to Lummi Island they were before that in their own small Tribal wars with the macaw who live in the North and then there was a whole huge Colonial division between the French and the British and the American as they continue to colonize this place there was a lime mine here that was used to build bricks and he thinks and they cut down the forests in 1896 so I’m on this piece of land that has amazing immense trees that have been growing here since they clear-cut it in 1896 there are several cedar trees that must be older than that because they’re towering but they have snagged three of them have snags at the top and that’s why they’re still here and one of them has a 13-foot black cleft down the middle of the trunk and so we’ve decided that’s the lowest I will bring the Altar and one of those wonderful features of my event which prior to this year was called surrender the ecosex convergence and which I held an intentional Community with Lindsay Hageman when she live there she stopped living there and we have to find a new venue but in those times so from 2013 until last year 2017 we have a part of the venue space marked off and we call it lillis Forest and we call it that because what we’re doing is creating a temporary autonomous Zone and we’re making a Sacred Space for people to have consensual sex Magik experiences in the woods they can be auto-erotic self-pleasuring or they can be negotiated consensually created co-created group or dyadic experiences whatever people want and in order to make it safe to do that we talk about consent all the time are very specific definition of consent is on the website when you register you have to read it and say that you’ve read it we have a 90-minute embodied consent training as part of it that’s mandatory everyone has to attended they get a wristband and I ended up learning how to create an entire culture where people could be strangers when they arrive at the festival but by Thursday night the festival goes from Wednesday to Sunday to buy Thursday night everyone is resonant with the definition of consent and how to embody it I did all of this because as a deeply Pagan person I decided I was from a point point of rebellion at the age of 18 never going to worship a male God because of the oppression that I experienced as a young female child and the early date rape experience and things like that I didn’t trust male body people enough to want to worship them as or defy them at all so from a point of rebellion I went to a private women’s school called Stephens College in Columbia Missouri and they had a library in one of the first things I did when I got there was go to the union section and found this book about inanna The Descent you’re not a way of initiation for women by Sylvia prior Brenton and I read that book and realize that it was possible that there were female deities position of rebellion at first I was like what I’m going to worship goddesses then it was a conceptual thing for me in the beginning and then I went through a thing where Alders archetypes this is a psychological thing and then As I Grew in 9:55 I’ll be 56 is here somewhere between 18 and 30 I had enough actual experiences with ritual and invoking deities and you know I met somebody in 1980 Melanie Henry who told me I’m a witch and gave me the copy of star hot to spiral dance with every year at that point and we started doing rituals together and getting our friends together and going out in the woods and calling ourselves which is again mostly out of rebellion but then the gods kind of found us we didn’t ritual that we started to have these amazing surreal and extraordinary experiences that we could not explain so I went through all these different Transformations but by the time I was leading an organization called called changes and doing public full moon rituals in parks and being a leader in the Pagan and Wiccan humidity at also got many many different kinds of initiation and the first degree that I got in college back then but I was 20 I got a degree from Siemens College in interdisciplinary ecology or human ecology I believe that now will be called something like whole system’s design right or something like one of the scholars and not feel right yeah I said that as well right grateful that made it possible for me to have a very deep understanding of ecology and that has been essential Paradigm in my life since my lovely private school that was a very excellent educational experience I had classes with like 11 people where we studied existentialism or Gandhi and non-violence we set it intentional communities we had a house called the beta house where we solarized create a greenhouse sunken hot tub in it made a zen garden learned to think about alternative energies and this was in from 1982-1983 I got a degree in 3 years and then I went back to school and got a master’s degree in psychiatric social work in Social Work Administration so I also worked with a very unwell chronically mentally ill believe in that now we’re going to talk about neurodivergent so you know where to find a new language all the time that seems more accurate Bunny Case by the timer 28 hours managing a group home I was the executive director of a group home for adults with chronic mental illness and I got married and moved to Eugene Oregon but all of these things were all about me having wonder and Delight in the world deeply loving human beings and knowing that the way that I was brought up and the things that have happened to me we’re not healthy and well and I wanted to understand psychology to figure out how do we get to this loving culture that I want and I’m again very aware of my own privilege and Power but I get to spend a lot of my time and Christian has called me a thot Vision I spend a lot of my time thinking about how could we have a new culture that would Center Lovington sense right so the living Love Revolution is the name of the cultural experiment that I’m in charge of I say that I’m in charge with I made it up and we all get to make up the meaning of our lives and we all get to and we will weather doing it consciously or not we are responsible for assigning the meaning of the things that have happened to us right so a good short example of that is at ecosex celebrating lover Earth the solstice event that we’re doing here on this beautiful land that I look at wish you could see the trees here there towering the sky is blue a bald eagle is flying overhead right now not making it up there’s a gorgeous Aphrodite statue that I get to the land next to a very ancient beautifully sinuous madrone tree the green and brown of its bark enticing it’s gorgeous here so one of the things that really do here is people have password so the events five day long and on Thursday Friday and Saturday for 2 hours everyone has chosen when they come to the registration Booth they got a necklace that goes with the small little tribal experience of password and I create relationships all year round and have people submit proposals for path working this year for the first time at midnight and the deadline is January 15th I have 15 workshops and seven of the eight password submitted on time so that’s how I know that this movement is growing and it’s going well and the first password submitted to me a woman named V Carhart and another woman named Michele rain are going to be leaving something called sexual initiation reframing trauma as a magical Act and the people that are on that package path I have about 20 people on it will get a chance to talk about their early sexual trauma histories and do an initiation Rite to reframe themselves as magical people so more than being a survivor of a trauma they’re going to Grapple with it they’re going to sit in the trouble together and tell their stories and listen to their stories and write to empower themselves to see themselves as amazing magicians and divinity’s in the center of their experience and they’re going to make up a positive sealing hole eyes not without grease but definitely without shame conclusion to that story for themselves doesn’t that sound cool those sounds great just so you know what side note is it’s really I feel like the the Redemptive quality in that kind of really the Alchemy of that traumas is to say to you about it myself which was it at those with the most empowering way I could make sense of the horror flick acts that were perpetrated on me and that on so many others is just to say some of us Souls did what they do in war when when you know the person with the most loving her heart sits on a grenade for the platoon and takes all the shrapnel so that it’s but then reveals if it were also reviewing the issue and if we if we can survive and thrive then we can bring it to the light and we can actually get to solve this issue and I kind of feel like we become like karmic sponges or something you know the process play more about the crime expunged what do you mean by that phrase so I can understand it’s a beautiful chamonix mushroom Shaman name Sean at home and you know she has her communion with the spirits of the Northwest nature spirits and we were one of the things that she heard and one of her Journeys was just that this disorder discourse of Ascension and in being lightworkers and there’s a lot of kind of highfalutin aggrandizement around some of the stuff and and that she was kind of put put in her place in a way by saying just clean up your reality you know it’s you got it we have to take the responsibility and have that if that’s the case then some of us who have been you know how to put on his Crucible we’ve we’ve had to become sort of like karmic sponges and we’re scrubbing off these scraping off these Barnacles off of the world-soul you know that the parasitic and don’t belong here so the more I mean if I can just swallow up like a giant whale just all of this Gunk and just get it stuck in my teeth and take it with me to the behind him clean his place and so yeah I get it thank you for explaining that cuz I was a little confusing I’ve also again had the great privilege of working with Daniel for have you heard of him no it’s a new name to me it’s really hilarious because he is actually from North Ridgeville Ohio which is where I grew up and I before meeting Dental really there wasn’t anybody outside of my family of origin that I would care to spend time with him or fertile because I I kind of feel like I escaped from there when I was 17 to go to college no and I worked very hard to come back into a relationship of love with the Lambs there in North Ridgeville and a big part of what’s me that possible is that I worked through a series of synchronicities I met General 4 and he has a system called ancestral medicine where those of us who if maybe bad weird and mysterious psychic things happen most of our Lives again I think there’s a connection between having survived a buttload of trauma and the hyper-vigilance that is set up in our nervous systems where we you know what does not want us to experience more trauma so we’re hyper-vigilant right and we were potentially things that are really going to be tragic but we anticipated we try to have foresight about avoiding it and all of that makes us take in a lot more sensory information and be more sensitive to proceeding it rape said it’s a lonely day I’ve always been super alert mainly because I’m so committed to nonviolence I don’t want to perpetuate the traumatic things that were done to me right I don’t know the unpurposed I really really want could be loving and kind to any small younger being so out of my commitment to not to participate in the city lubricant show as little as possible right I met Daniel and heard about descent system which is the idea that we all have bright and well ancestors and that especially those of us that have white skin privilege is that makes sense that translate that phrase and who are of northern European descent whose ancestors slaughtered and destroyed the indigenous cultures that were here on this continent before they arrived that we actually a month my friends we talked about it in the shorthand term called way to go right size a fading agriculture for the culture that’s happening and let it go is a place that I didn’t invent Paul’s last name as a book called where to go it’s basically saying that the defendant over culture itself is a virus and that people that are unconsciously Dominator haven’t deconstructed their privilege around race and class that their behavior is destroying the planet right and that all of us that have white privilege and all of us of European ancestry need to clean up our own bloodline so this is me referring back to your psychic sponge, so I have come to believe that is my responsibility to heal the Hungry Ghost in my own blood lines do that I have to know my own history my own DNA where did my people come from what God did they worship What lands did they inhabit and most of us don’t really have any related this to that so by taking a 9-month ancestral medicine training with Daniel and then being supervised by him now so that I can be a practitioner of his system I’ve had to do the prison work of looking up my DNA I took a DNA blood test and found out where everything I could about that I found out I have Eastern European Jewish roots and I didn’t know about I found out that I have more than African blood that I didn’t know about I found out that has Saudi Arabian blood didn’t know about which makes sense cuz my dark skinned Italian father who had a lot of trouble with racism growing up in the 50s and 60s right that was an impact there was a lot of race and religious intolerance in my family board and growing up with a big division me to my father’s Italian Catholic background and my grandmother’s and my mother a Protestant White English and Irish and French background in the process of working with Daniel identified the bright and well dead people in my bloodline and now I have an ancestor altar I talk to them daily I pray to them daily and I’ve used the connection with those bright and well ancestors to clean up the hungry ghosts in all four of my primary Bloodlines and in the process of doing that I carry them with me and their integrated with me and I really feel strongly as most of those of us who study with Daniel to that it is our job to clean up our own Bloodlines first and to not do that is a spiritual bypass right so I can’t walk around and tell and be judgy about other people and their shit unless I’ve cleaned up my own first this will that make sense to you yeah that’s a great that’s a great point and if I if I could I’d like to ask you if we could get into the house that this path is it says express through the effort. E Temple specifically that that Retreat that I was hearing about where that that seems like that’s all people are coming together to get those hard-to-reach spots you know so the living Love Revolution has like a whole system you have personal what I call Zone zero the inside of your head work Zone one would be like the two of us talking to each other is a Zone 1 Zone 2 saga plaid permaculture write down for would be different cultures merging and clashing and cross-pollinating zone 5 would be the guy at the body itself the whole planet and I have created remediation systems for all of those zones and you can read about that on the Eco sex Orcas Island. Org website there’s a page that discusses the zone so that we could talk about in a holistic way down zero and someone I teach Cascadia holistic peer counseling the peer counseling system that prepares people to learn how to clean up his own Zero by getting loving witnessing attention from other people and treating even though you know some of us still need to go to trained therapist psychiatrist that’s important limited. But our lives would be so much easier if we all have your belly say hey I’m upset can I get a mini and some would just stop and for 10 minutes give you their full loving attention and you could clear the emotional distress her in and then go back to whatever consensually agree upon activity or in the middle of before you have the most mobs that gives this is so important and I feel like a lot of people in the eye mean I just don’t want to call the self-help movement I want to call it Mutual Cooperative no one is alone at me you know what’s better than cleaning up our toxic Gunk so we can attend to the Ecstasy and pleasure of being a body was designed for the bus is it seems like yeah you can take care of it after hours after you clock out and then you know if you can feel really happy about things up in the morning when you have to be there small groups we want to have deep resources because we are pleasure activist we want all of our relationship at whatever level to be loving and satisfying and pleasurable so I had to invent something called the Aphrodite Temple because you know I taught for 12 years at the Center for Sex positive culture short names that wet spot by those of us that taught there and hung out and made it happen. I think last year or the year before it was in Seattle that whole time and a great privilege again of being around only Natchitoches but executive director a lot and I’ve learned so much from her and she encouraged me to teach there but I wanted to do things that were about sacred sexuality and mostly it was BDSM Kink which is not I’m not disparaging that at all I needed a Social container for me to work out my trauma and to work out different positions of power and to role-play all kinds of different things and in the process of teaching and socializing at the Center for Sex positive culture for a decade really I learned all kind of by that method well my thing I really like is sacred sexuality I like to have sex while there’s an altar with Siri that can vote and I started to understand that for me my primary relationship before using polyamory language was with the deity Aphrodite and that I didn’t want to have sexual interactions with other people that interrupted the flow of deep love and devotion the kind of bhakti practice that I had with that goddess I didn’t want any of my other relationships with humans to interrupt that flow inside a figure out a way to do that and in the process bring out a way to do that and not wanting to get into heteronormative dyads because no matter how many times and how much work and effort how much therapy I got and how much talking we did that dyadic pairing always had a power-up and power-down position and it was too painful for me to continue it interrupted the flow of my relationship with Aphrodite cuz all that translate because every time I get close to being intimate anyone I have to explain to them there’s more than meets the eye going on here of cultivating a connection with no some DVD that you would have to have informed consent to encountering and I don’t want to have you be freaked out so you got to study that I am a what-do-you-call-it and it’s I’m a package deal with the device some of you and have you understand that piece from my personal spiritual Devotion to the goddess Aphrodite that I ended up creating entire system that I now call a therapeutic education and ecstatic education weekend so after desirable education and it really was out of my frustration and trying to translate what I was doing just individual I just wanted Playmate I just want to peers I just want to have an awesome mother love and time for cheers and I think about all of this text to sort of millennial Tech culture and co-working spaces it sounds like you’re great at you were creating cold Living Spaces the way we were working spaces now got it that’s right and that’s why I say queer Centric and poly normative because I’m saying for the. Of time that this weekend is an Aphrodite Temple weekend starts at 1 on one day and ends at 1 two days later right to from 1 on Friday or the next Temple that we’re having is May 26th to 28th so over Memorial Day weekend it’s in Portland we charge 352 $500 sliding scale for it you can read about it Aphrodite temple.com and the essay that I was reading from from queer magic is the first time I’ve ever tried to actually articulate what I’m doing which was really a weird feeling I kind of felt like I was showing people my genitals it was like the most awkward I’m shy all my friends are like how come you’re not writing about the second thing because it’s private it’s like my biggest Joy and I’m at some level Terror terrified that if people really find out what I’m doing the come and kill me right because the cultures so but because they put up this book and they’re my good friends and there’s like we really want you as a woman magician whose you know we love your work. Please write about it and it took me almost nine months to write this essay start someone on Friday usually the same will be Saturday in Atlanta Monday and the first day and a half of it is are all exercises to make sure that were actually in our bodies as present as we can be and not disassociated that we’re moving away from being performative insects because most sex for most adults is a Performance Based on their programming they received for what it means to be a man or what it means to be a woman or what it means to choose not to be either and we’re still super focused on the impact of the performance and what we’re trying to do is move you from that place of performance to being a space that’s an intact field of sensory information and aesthetic Delight where you know that you are part of a we Consciousness that is singing with bliss and ecstasy we want to move people into their experience in their body and away from their concept of what sex is it’s the berry Big magical trick and we have to create a temporary autonomous Zone which is a word that Hakim Bey came up with are you familiar with that word yes very much very poetic terrorism full of therapy sensory information and Sex Magic where you get to be with usually between 20 and 30 people max out the most we’ve ever had in temples 33 and that was a little clunky and on Saturday night there’s a cone of powers with a spell it’s an act of magic and we get into groups of five each person gets 20 to 40 minutes depending on how the time how it’s gone to articulate what they want and then receive it from for other people we do it it’s designed really carefully as a culture Jam against heteronormativity a culture gym against sexual oppression or capitulation or coercion and it’s ecstatic and its Democratic and its egalitarian and sometimes people say what I really want with my body is asking for right now is to be crabs like a little baby and have lullaby sung to me and have my hair petted and sometimes people say I need all four of my orifices dramatically and then thoroughly stimulate is simultaneously and I needed from all of you right now and there’s absolutely no judgment about what people request and it’s our honor and our sacred duty to deliver what is requested of us and so the the Priestess training system that I have I say is training in becoming a transpersonal resource of love and lust and desire for your community what the work is does that make sense all that and orgasmic Gardener is a happy Gardener we have been holding for Aphrodite Temple a year since about 2009 and we have a priestess body right now that’s composed of 13 people and like ecosex celebrating Mother Earth I’m the Matrix the architect of the social permaculture design of these activities well I just want to take that input if that’s so beautiful just that has the potential of making permaculture sexy is that sexy my friend it is right and it’s it’s missing that piece the 9th form of capital it’s a sexual capital of sexual energy flow I mean I really hope I realize I fantasize about a nude PDC actually informed is another book that will come out before the end of this year called sex positive now Co edited by Alina kibosh and I forgotten the man that she’s doing with so I forgive forgive me Alina but he’s I believe Australian and I have an essay and they’re called from Roots to shoots the sex positive origins of ecosexuality movement in which an articulating all the queers through the blue laws of armed services that deposited large numbers of queer people in New York and Chicago and San Francisco by when they kick them of the military and again when I go back home how that turned into gay leather culture and gay leather bar culture how that turned into the radical faeries contingencies the dike separatist lesbian things up eco-feminist women artists like on a man Giada and Mary Beth Edelson we’re doing things in the seventies and eighties the Guerrilla girls how that all moved through a cup how it turned into queer performance art how that queer prefer was something that Annie Sprinkle and Beth Stevens found United partnership in and how their ecosexual weddings and their early artlab performances of getting married before it was legal to be married as a clear of them doing this public works of art and that performance turn into the Eco sexuality movement and how I’m a part of that movement cuz all of that so well this is the kind of stuff I want to be having campfire smores ecosex Orcas Island. Org is the website with these awesome stickers if you send me your snap name and I’ll send you a packet of fun stuff yes animist right you know you hit the trees and the birds and the bees and the mycelium and the Stardust that those things are also is. As we are at those things have a right to exist as we do and that we should be learning from these nuts on human natural beings that designs for a culture that we should be building culture more like a beehive or like a mycelial mat or like a cluster of stars then like the idea is that the same Uber culture turned out and sells to us. It’s our honor and our responsibility to listen deeply to our own songs to the land to the nonhuman beings and live in concert in Harmony and peace and loving consensual relationship with those beings and that now is the time for us to turn those of us who would like to turn this culture and move with quickness with alacrity through this tiny little portal that’s open right now to get through to these other dimensions and change the nature of the universe the nature of our experience in these body I don’t know how long the portal will be open I know that is open now and everything in me is sounding a call to find the other beings who want to do this work to press forward and make it happen beautiful beautiful that was a great rabble rousing speech and yeah I feel like we’ve this is a cat feels like we’re in some time or Bermuda Triangle or something because I feel like we’ve only been talking for 5 minutes and time is just flying and I feel like I definitely want to I feel like this is a great foundation for you as a guest and I want to unpack and going to so many of these Dimensions that you played out as we have as you have time in the future if I could ask Chicana just there’s a few points that I would like to to address with you from the interview and I don’t have golf dig up the link and maybe you have it off the top of your head but there was an episode of a podcast where you were interviewed specifically all about kind of inter workings of the Aphrodite Temple experience yet . org which is my website there are links to most of my podcast there also there’s a website called Aphrodite temple.com that podcast is embedded on the website there if you forget you can write to me at ecos x 22 at gmail.com and I’ll send it to you personally it is having all of my media cuz I’d like to because I’m mostly busy in the world if your not generating more media than you’re consuming you’re in trouble and I right yeah I understand questions you want to ask me I’ll try to slow down and thank you so much you have wasted this is just been a spellbinding literally spellbinding roller coaster ride of just getting a bit Taste of everything has been an absolute drill and I appreciate it I know this is exactly the rabbit hole this is it this is a plural this is a rabbit holes multiples of rabbit holes in this conversation that are all delightful so some of the things I feel like I want with most thrilled about when you express them in and I’m not you know we don’t have to match the Glory of Love Will Find the link to that and people can check it out but there were two specific really empowered empowering and for me very transformative insights that you shared about having this experience in these groups and you’re going to be places so so bravely greatest lie and in one of them was at it was really we’re leaving for me when you talked about how you know you’ve worked with you you’ve gone deep with with the lifelong meditators who say that you’ll never conquer your you know anxiety disorder you just need to literally find a way to have some peace about it and go put your life and we can help each other with coping with these things but don’t put this Purity like this is an Empire realm and we’re going to swap fluids or going to swap Karma’s and all these things going to happen the best we can do centrally is to just be be honest about it and surrender and share and healing in Penn Valley now I’m kind of paraphrasing but you don’t scare me as a Survivor I’ll just say that you know this is what we’re still using that terminology it’s at, I feel contaminated and I feel it sometimes contagious and I feel like there’s a new Psalm Isadora who is it you know very well respected very very well-established casualty of the war against these parasitic entities I would say you know sheet she was quoted saying that she never wanted to talk about what she had been through you know that for a long time because in her words who would love me and to me that’s the biggest the tragedy of how these things fuck with your mind is it is if they would tips if you can find a way to love yourself and be loved and to share love then you can win but if you were if you were you feel so in pure that you that you don’t want to touch anybody or be touched or be opened up then they win yeah and then you die in the next life so can be a solace if you will is realizing that we actually live in a non-dual Multiverse and any kind of concept that splits the world into then becomes problematic so because the fading agriculture is dominated by dualistic religions it’s easy to fall into the spell of Duality where things are sinful or good as if anything could be that simplistic it’s actually not the truth is not the truth of her experience and I’m again great privilege and blessing to work with Reginald Ray and do a month-long. TuneIn 2011 to 2012 and sit and doing many many hours of what he cheats a practice where he tells us through experience and leads us through the experienced that the body is living in a non dual experienced the body doesn’t have an understanding of sin it is the mind that assigns the idea of impurity at all it is the mind and its judgments and It’s Tricky fucking fading Uber culture enforced programming that would ever have the idea that the body was in Pure or damaged or diseased or sinful or tragically you know broken it’s not true just from a science perspective that I can talk to you through this media that were communicating that our souls are touching and we understand each other is a freaking miracle that the body is functioning with all this biotta and nervous systems and it’s a freaking Miracle the body existing is a miracle and there’s not anything ugly or computer or dirty those are all thought forms from fragile human understanding from The Limited confined space of a dualistic imposed concept that is not the truth about our bodies that’s not the truth about our actual experience we are vast and immense we are at this moment full of Dark Matter Where our ancestors and the gods lie that is the truth about my experience and I offer it as an opportunity for an alternative Paradigm that could be Liberatore and cause you to see your own magnificence and experience your own eminence and the power of Aphrodite is the ability to experience yourself as God and deity and understand that you’re holy and to perceive that Golden Light of eminence in other beings and that’s our work to live in that space and a generator culture that honors that space and they give us that experience of bliss and ecstasy that is our Birthright yeah I’m going to have it at Francis Senior Life and adding more logs to the fire you know in the right way that’s going to increase the temperature for disinfecting the unhygienic parts you know that that we need help with and it just burn it off thank you yeah we’re totally deep vows for all the stuff that you’re working out and it’s been a huge inspiration I feel like it’s a prerequisite for anybody to come anywhere near my body Temple to have this level of discourse about stuff so there’s another factor that you brought up and it will just the units will be the last thing I want to I want to touch on for an hour from you know what what I was so moved by but another another very functional very practical protocol procedure you know for say that you had in place was a very just a very succinct precise bit of wisdom around with the way you language how it’s in a while probably do you know how was going to paraphrase it to the best my memory but if it’s that a man in my from my memory to my words it’s it’s really that there is this what the truth that you’re expressing was it there is a pretty much inevitable inevitability of a wonky kind of power Dynamic of either either in it if you’re only having died attic you know want to people in a couple’s private sexual encounter you really not seeing each other’s blind spots and there’s a tendency to either to either be transgressed upon or to transgress upon another and if you don’t have the referee or witness or third-party to observe the Dynamics from a high level of skill and and consent training then pretty much you’re always setting yourself up to in some way violate consent or ground beef traumatized and so even if it’s not this sloppy it’s really not about it being a sloppy orgy where people aren’t paying attention it’s about having at least one person be very Vigilant present and facilitate and move energy and to make sounds of and that’s what was work for me and what I would kind of add to it unless you’re sure that’s what’s happening for you you just started liking train to a collective hive mind of a fueling together but it does indict that heteronormative dyadic sort of Paradigm that is just a nuclear family curse and I always looking for new ways to burst that bubble of the Disney World going to Disneyland for you to share that in your own words if they if your if I’m if you remember what I’m referring to and I know what you’re talking about and I think it’s even more clearly articulated I’ll read the last paragraph of the essay that I started with and it has a great concise capitulation of what you’re referring to okay if the goal of sex is not to procreate then we are liberated from biological imperatives of mating attraction based on biological determinism the hormonal drives and Fairmount releases in our DNA is continual and statement towards intercourse and procreation are no longer the reason is why we are having sex as we move away from gender essentialism binary Notions that can modify men as purely Financial resource providers and women as purely social sexual providers we then expand the opportunities for negotiating sexual in economics sharing and recognizing the multitude of abilities interest possibilities identities and so on that every individual can embody we move steadily away from heterocysts normativity and towards queerness is Duality no longer dominates our understanding of gender there are more than 2 genders they are not them ethically opposed to each other and there is no opposite sex to be at war with instead there an infinite number of gendered displays each one a unique experience each one and ephemeral Epiphany specific to the relational context in which it co arises gender itself is now a liminal State a Mercurial expression that shifts and Glides across the reflective surface of the body’s before us the relational perspectives in context provided for sex and living Love Revolution Aphrodite temples are all about Recreation and community and Ecstasy of auto-erotic autonomy inside our consent-based Taz of democratic sexual loving meritocracy every single celebrant becomes a sacred and holy fractal of divinity we are each of us then a shimmering note in a harmonious CarGurus resounding with her name Aphrodite Bravo perfect beautiful thank you so much I wish I could but I just a round of applause stretching through the galaxies to hear that this is let’s make this planet a beautiful luxury resort for the divine feminine to want to come back here and hang out for being such a halogen open an expansive being am deeply listening to me it feels great. So let’s carry on hopefully after we can follow up and I love to hear some Beautiful recaps of the convergence coming up and I will go further into somebody’s topics and hopefully this will start doing a lot of good and please people listening access the resources that aphrodite Temple. Calm and again if you just want to stop your websites and will call tonight org Aphrodite temple.com and ecosex Orcas Island. 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