In this podcast I’m joined by Jazmin, a yoga instructor, community organizer, activist, bookstore owner. She’s a social media friend who has become a heroine to me as she shares some of my deepest and dearest roots in the ecological anarchism movement. Her spiritual activism and activist spirituality are sincerely humbling and it was very healing and invigorating to explore her insights and feel proud to earn her respect.
- guerilla yoga
- decentralized yoga
- racial politics in radical movements
- political prisoners
- state repression
- sex work
- college life
- community space
- gender politics
- the survival wombyn eco-educational modeling project
- and more!
Here is the link to her Survival Wombyn profile page:
I embody a yoga practice that is at the intersection of holistic wellness and social justice activism. My yoga practice, is diverse and ever-evolving. In the past five years, yoga played a significant role in my personal development and transformation. I am living proof that disciplined empathy for yourself, will change how you show up and interact in the world.
My paypal email is:
jazminfrancescayoga [at] gmail [dot].com
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Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township on podcast episode number 167 I am extremely excited in just grinning from ear-to-ear because I have Jasmine as a guest on the show and this is the the very exciting Adventures background that I have to to lead up to our conversation she has been a friend of mine on social media now for probably a good many moons and also a listener of the podcast and it’s always a treat for me to just find out that random different people from all over the world that are tuning in and getting something positive and empowering from this and to have somebody step up and just kind of time in really is affirming for me so it’s like wipe she goes by the name black girl affirming on Instagram and I feel like she’s helped this white boy give a little back formation and if I says so it’s been fun yeah we’ve we just had a bancer online and there was a time of you know I would say that that the cheat sheet she gets my heart racing and as I see your posts and and she’s easy on the eyes and all that good stuff and you know but I wouldn’t have I wouldn’t have crossed the line of propositioning her to be hired as a model I don’t want to end up using that as like a unprofessional Shady pick-up line you know but but I was compelled to be like damn I got to know if you’d be willing to take money for some of these pictures if you’re shipping because you’ve got you know the vibe that I’m going for them looking for as far as women who are empowered and have a story to tell and are doing cool things in the world that are inspiring and and also being willing to play with erotic energy and actually engage in and share a bit of them to set themselves in an erotic matter with the world and so whenever I see that whenever I see those two things together it it it makes me want to reach out in that way but so that the the real what makes me so ridiculously happy right now is to talk about this is is to describe that moment where I saw the one little Instagram clip little video clip that that push me over the edge and it was this a scene with a beautiful like small kind of Creek little waterfall Rock somewhere in a lovely Forest environment and there she was burying her fairness to the world from a nice full backside kind of perspective in and she’s first facing forward or you’re facing away from the camera and then there’s is very slow very meticulous and methodical turning over head towards the camera so naked and had her turning over her shoulder and then there is the absolutely most mischievous yet playful and somehow Innocent but it totally inviting look like I’ve never felt so invited to anything and end but it’s left to your imagination so it could be that you are you’re invited to also take her clothes off and get in the water or you’re invited to just sort of let your imagination roll and and I I think I was in that moment just feeling like this is the quintessential expression that if only women in the world were permitted and facilitated and in in secured and inhaled safe to be able to be able to express it as they want to be then then there will be a lot more of these beautiful moments for a cell to for taken and nothing in for all genders and for all Expressions you know to feel like hey this is me you know here I am love it or leave it whatever and son is just so many it’s worth a thousand words and I’m and I’m going to use a screenshot as the as the the assertive profile photo for this episode so anybody listening please do yourself a favor and and get a deep download a deep deep Country transmission from this photo it says like this is how we all could be living you know naked men like trans McKenna said we know where we really want to be is in the jungle sitting in the jungle naked stoned and exalted and and that’s how I want to live so you know with all the with all that said a couple little things here is that Jasmine is a yoga instructor a community organizer activist and a bookstore owner and and she will be one of the very first survival women models for the new website that I’m launching at mentioned a few times in the past and and we’ll get in to kind of the the the thinking behind that and how we you know we’re going to collaborate to really changed shifts and paradigms in a really fun and empowered way so we’ll get into that later but for now just wanted to say thank you for bearing with the too long intro and Jasmine is going to know take over and lead us on a nice some grounding kind of intro and then we’ll get to hear all about her in her own words a band that was beautiful and so honored to be on this podcast with you today and I just want to take a couple of moments to kind of ground and center before we get the chatting so I invite anyone who is listening to this to find a comfortable seat if you can’t find a comfortable seat that’s fine to invite you to close your eyes if you’re not driving just began to turn in and word and Bill the contrast of the heaviness of the body and the likeness of your breath maybe you take your tongue to the top of the mouth so you create a nice little part between your lips and your teeth and I hope your breathing slowly begin to let your ex house become a little bit longer than your in house maybe you call when your favorite see it to you right now where energy or spirit that you like to work with whenever you’re ready believe again. The eyes flutter open and bring yourself back into this moment all right Manny ready I’m ready I am so ready I was born ready for this cool so yeah tell us all about your personal life journey to lead us up to this lovely moment they were sharing Barry as well I am from a small rural town and you know I’m one of those places where there’s not much to do besides getting in trouble so I’m actually really blessed that somehow that my past was a lot different from a lot of the kids that I grew up with and I think a lot of that had to do with like the the matriarchal family I was brought up in had a strong grandmother even though during this time so I kind of just thought she was really strict she’s actually creating like structure that a lot of children crave to start at 6 and set three light and three growing up with her she put me into an early college high school so I graduated high school at 17 with an associates degree I went off to go to college I graduated college it’s Manny with a ba in political science college for about five years now so I’m 25 and most people would just be graduating college right now but when I graduated college like a lot of people kind of experience this like shifting your like like where you feel like okay now what and during that now what phase is when I begin my yoga Journey my yoga practice and that was five and a half years ago and a lot has changed but the one constant has always been my ability to come back to my map and for that I’m really grateful and I think have self-discipline through my practice has really shaped and mold me into the woman I am today so yeah that’s fabulous your accelerated I love it there are these moments of acceleration where you’re like you kind of like blink and then like a years have gone by and then you have these moments where I like things kinda Canfield. But really that’s just the time of resting there to be honored to you know right on yeah that’s that’s very interesting is this the first time I’ve heard of a program of a high school where you could actually be getting credit towards College simultaneously that sounds like a very opportune in yeah I would love to see that via the way for people to be more empowered and more set up and I have to reinvent the wheel so much with so many wasted hours if monotony and rote learning and all that stuff so yeah how was your college experience it’s kind of a shitshow I think up until that point I had been like so sheltered and really like a nerd for lack of better words you know it’s kind of cool now but back then it didn’t feel too cool so when I got the college and I was like by myself like any country girl who finally gets to the city, but I was able to keep it together enough so I can walk across that stage tell us more about the wildness if I can’t imagine what you mean by that College was a great experience in the sense that that was the first time I had really look like I had an opportunity to like really explore like black urban culture like I said I am an African-American woman and I grew up in a rule town and many of my school years I was often like one of maybe like three black kids so is a culture shock in that way and you know I’m forever grateful for those times like the relationships in The Sisterhood that created really like been lifelong friendship and he has so many of the people I went to school there doing incredible things here in the area that we lived in especially in the activist and organizing community so I’ll go ahead and I’m going to mention this I hope she’s okay with me mention this I have a friend named glow who was a part of the Charlotte Uprising if you’re not familiar with the Charlotte Uprising it was a series of a protest that were triggered by the the police killing of an unarmed black man and weather has been really in transit in that movement and is facing felony charges for conspiracy and like starting a riot and all these like what does Tactics with the state uses to impress black voices honestly and so if anybody wants to support glow you can support her at like Charlotte Uprising on Facebook figure out how you feel like donate to her legal defense funds and yeah and so like all of us and now we’re like out here doing this like activist work and back then if you knew you would never think we would be the ones like on the front lines protesting because back then we’re more concerned about partying but you know well that’s best music to my ears. I definitely had a similar experience yeah but partying and getting political and political partying it for being a little more on the for me you know I’m the anarchists kind of spectrum of just wanting to break down break down all the organized religions and all the organized political systems and get really really raw and him back to the roots and I know ya without disclosing your your whereabouts exactly I know that there is a I mean we have good good very deeply nature connected kind of movements that we that we both share so yeah Anarchy for life oh yeah so good part owner of is an anarchist bookstore so we we we focus a lot and Anarchist literature and having a very diverse selection of authors and you know Octavia Butler you know emergent strategy and brown Bell hooks You Name It We got it has been a really good experience for me I thought I was bad until I like teamed up and started doing this and I was like well I could be way more rider that’s awesome it sounds like it’s kind of a Cooperative kind of structure is at how do you how do you do that it’s just really interesting and really this I’d love to spend some time on this because a 25 year old entrepreneur in that space but also doing it in a minute in a more collectivized sense where you’re not trying to always be the lone rock star or you know carrying all the weight by having a healthy business Dynamic where you’re serving the community and your hopefully you know appealing yourself away from the working for the man you know and making living it’s doing things right so how is that you want to tell us about it just a Dynamics in so people can get a good get inspired to do some other things a lot of people are starting to wake up to you it’s the idea that you really can’t do it all by yourself you know like we’re so removed from like community that it’s just so much to take on especially when you look at the state of the world now that you can be really depressing if you try to like fix everything by yourself and so I think like working with a proper dose is been really like therapeutic for me like the bonds that I’ve built but these people but you know in a traditional work setting maybe have like a cold and you’re just really not feeling up to par but you might not necessarily have that intimate connection to just be like you know what like I would like to give 100% today but you might get 75 and this is why I not feel judged for it because we we don’t prioritize our work as like in a sense of like a capitalist labor mentality like our work is more of a in the sense of service start Unity so yeah I love that I have the ability to like lean into that a lot and I think it’s something that’s really missing but you know I’m we talked about entrepreneurship I feel that that’s been the white one of the cornerstones of my generation is just being like you know I really don’t want to do the nine-to-five thing is like forever confused when I let got a college about like why I was so depressed and so miserable and these jobs and it’s because they’re not normal you’re not in it so like an office desk or Worse do you like hard manual labor for like hours of a day and like get like an hour break has not normal it just doesn’t make sense to me when I started linking up with like-minded people I was like Oh My Tribe thank God I’ve been looking everywhere for you guys. I feel exactly the same way and I was just having a conversation just about the drudgery and the sort of repackage slavery in a lot of people you know you would have more of a deeper authentic voice on this issue the me one of the ways to think that people lose sight of just the process of building Empire in Civilization is that you know the The Branding on slavery has changed and their arguments have been made you know you can audit them better than I but just saying that essentially the it was in some way some people would argue I’ve heard the argument that that no slaves who do the slave labor have to earn in Spain money for rent and room and board and all of these other Aldi’s Aldi’s other necessities of life that that were provided in so-called traditional or official slavery now the trick on everybody and not the least of which being the freed slaves is that oh you’re free now but you still are under the impressive system still have institutionally disadvantaged and marginalized in the whole pyramid of privilege is still a pressing and on top of that now you have to pay rent now you have all these other bosses in oppressors and it’s like the only way to break free from all that is to do what you’re talkin about which is collectivize and share resources in and work for working with each other and serve a community in an end then you can really be free of of having to feel pressure to work for somebody else’s you know Empire to even survive I don’t know how that sounds you know if I’m using the right language but curious about your thoughts very deep question when I when I hear you speak up a couple of things come to mind me I think I like I wouldn’t be the first person to say like today’s caplis labor is slavery I would attribute more of that like modern slavery slavery to like the prison industrial complex just because like I mean the way those people are treated in prison is just absolutely disgusting you know I am a part of a collective that collects books for prisoners and like they can’t even get hardback books like there’s so many regulations on like what they’re allowed to even read in prison that. Feels like that’s very much like like somebody having like literal control of your life where I think you know in like capless America like traditional Society like we do have like a lot of leeway in that sense but other thing that came to mind was you know how the system of capitalism rely so heavily on when men and women’s bodies right because ultimately we are the people who reproduce the workers are right and that’s something that really came to me and that the way that like our government tries to regulate women’s bodies is so deeply High to capitalism. if you want to talk about women’s Liberation we have to talk about the dismantlement of the system that no longer is working for us you know yeah yeah those are really really important points I’m glad you brought them up and they had those are whole whole topics for whole other episodes that I will definitely have you a recurring guest in knowing when we so now there anybody listening to understand why you know why I’m so thrilled to have someone with this level of insight to to be on the show and to bring help me come back to a more radical more more insurrectionary even kind of attitude towards the system and you know I’m really not here to to put on rose colored glasses and make everybody into Township Bliss bunnies that just Frolic and leap over all of the Shadow work that needs to be done so she had sex magic which is like I would love to see a people’s movement rooted in spiritual health and sexual Liberation and that didn’t happen a lot I mean even I know the Black Panthers were were systematically terrorized by the FBI and they would even implant it wouldn’t plant home-wrecking informants and in Plants insiders to actually fuck with people using jealousy and using the tactics of of like really Mike fucked-up monogamous drama to fucking ruin the movement and say okay if you had resilient sexual magical tantric tribes maybe that shitt wouldn’t work maybe they’d have to go through 74 initiations I know even the The Weather Underground SDs that was more of a of a white kind of elite more elitist and white kind of movement that they would do homosexual initiations to not that I know exactly all of the historical details about it but I believe that the thinking was that to break down the structures of patriarchy that they would they would in some places require a sort of homosexual kind of initiation and that probably also was a way to say oh you do you know any if you’re a cop in the room raise your hand okay now now you have to like stripped naked and join this orgy otherwise you know your we’re going to know your I don’t know if that anyway I could there’s so much to learn about about these about this movement so again I just I think we’re going to have lots of fun on going you know exploring the stuff and I’ll just leave it there for now but yeah go ahead. I will shut myself up and you know it when we were talking about like you know like the FBI using like jealousy and like these like like kind of Primal like Musa kind of fuck was like I was really lucky to do you like an all-day group intensive workshop with Alice Walker and if you’re familiar with her she’s the author of The Color Purple in search of our mothers Gardens you really famous Friday and my question for her was like how do I continue to show up as a community organizer as activist and like take care of myself at the same time and her response was you have to heal yourself first before you can show up in that capacity so you know especially with like Daris amen if you’re not doing that emotional labor like you’ll you’ll get you’ll get there like you you’ll make strides but you it can be easily triggered and this I told if you’re not working on things like jealousy and you know like these Primal energy that can be really a distraction at times yeah that is that’s great advice well we’ll so now it’s okay so I’m just so thrilled because normally did to this is I mean I’ll say that there is a lot of well well meant and really justifiable tension and hostility between and among the genders and sexes in radical communities because there is so many creditors that go into like direct-action campaign and end up trying to you know he’ll actually a lot of those people are are the cops I got to give away a dead giveaway is at the agitators who were sent in there and if they’re not actually trained it call Monica or whatever they’re actually just sort of people that may be a flipping and doing the sort of treacherous and traitors stuff of being maybe they got busted for having a joint and then they said hey go and fuck with that that direct-action campaign and we’ll let you off or whatever but you know I’ve seen those kind of people and they come in and they are the ones who were trying to sexually manipulate and violate women and to create that sort of drama so you know too too kind of frame this discussion little bit around the sexuality you know the ideal of sexual Liberation in radical communities and then the sort of shadow of How It’s in some places we can create Anarchy especially like deep in the forest when they’re did say they are far away the system is actually far away and then there’s a lot of you know enforce the fence campaigns that I was involved with there were rapes and molestation and abuse has and there would be the sort of tribalism of the you know bands of Brothers kind of breaking off and fighting the women who were really literally fighting for their lives and fighting for the forest because it’s all that stuff so you’re taking a very bold step from that away from that that more siloed and hostile attitude towards me because you could have really been like who the fuck is his douchey white dude talking about you know all this Liberation stuff and in a part of that is very true but you’ve been you know forgiving and being an open to me and now we’re having this conversation about what’s really going to be me taking the fruits of my heart labor and that the money in my pocket and just handing it over to you handsome amounts to take pic nude pictures of yourself in nature and some sort of exploiting you sexually but I’m also empowering you financially and so and you’ve done some webcamming so how about you take over just tell us about wet what’s X work with looks like from your paradigm you know one Brad like I kind of like have like a load for you know these patriarchal white supremacist capitalist system as Bell hooks so I can call it but in the same breath you know when there’s been times where I like I had to happen so that survival instincts and I had like one guy asked me one time he was like am I the victim or the victimizer and the truth is we’re but you know like I think you have to have a certain amount of street-smart to to be able to like use what naturally you have to like to take it to the next level or to financially take care of yourself and support yourself but you know sex work is the oldest work in the world and is not going anywhere and there have been times where like white douchey man have all we like helps me like maybe pay for like tuition for college shirt and this and that and that and it was very much it felt like a mutual exchange it’s really hard to talk about monetizing or like what your body is worth but I would just always encourage women who are like in this in this fail to like don’t load don’t lie sell yourself you know like take care make sure you’re making enough to take care of yourself first and foremost I think when that’s feeling of like it being a mutual exchange starts to like kind of waiver then that’s when we start talking about like maybe this is more of self harm than it is actual good and that’s up to each person’s own discernment like what feels Mutual for you like how how do you value yourself and then there’s been times when I was camping and people would be like they say the meanest things and get tell me I was charging too much and doing this and doing that and I can be a lot on your self-esteem but I just encourage you to stick to your guns because those people naturally weed themselves out for sure for sure well I’m I’m feeling that I’m feeling that very deeply and you know if I have one sort of claim to I guess my is there’s a there’s a lot of white guilt kind of Shadow behavior in the activists Progressive funeral ft world and green left it kind of world and you know I’ve I guess a lot of people who have that white guilt have strategies of ways to try to minimize the amount of privilege that they have on paper so they’ll you know come up with ways that they are also oppressed and you know I will also be enough for me and I feel like there is some it’s a struggle and it is it’s a real thing and I feel like it’s a it’s an appropriate internal battle to have about like what is my role on this continent what is my role in this hemisphere you know what the going to be in service or am I going to be a parasite on you know all of the indigenous people in the land and I’m trying you don’t go into that struggle and I would say that you know the one thing that that is legitimate about my sort of being able to claim that I have some impressions of my own is that I have that background is like a street-walking sex worker as a minor you know an inn that I had said to be able to so you know I’ve seen some horrific things in Android some things and that doesn’t make me on the level with a lot of other people by any means but we can at least talk about that from a you know from a I can talk about that from a place of humility in place of having been there and Having learned Street smarts in until I understand like exactly you’re talking about is it you know there is well how would you how would you feel about this argument the sort of sick Pro sex work feminist argument that you know what to put it put it briefly as just that well you know if the feminist who are saying that you’re selling out the feminist movement by serving the crude sexual desires of these men do you know I don’t deserve it and and what not there I see. I see the validity in those points but then the counter argument that I I really like is the one where where women who are sex workers have in each type c see things in a feminist Missy will look at what you’re doing with your body like you’re doing something that could probably get you killed or get you injured you working at a factory that’s prostitution to I’m just being sexy and feeling good in my body and yeah I got to do with some Trolls but you know hey at least I’m doing something very sustainable which is making myself you know as long as I’m hydrated I can just squirt all day and make more money yeah go for something interesting to you were talking about like like from a place of like privilege like what is your role in this world and like honestly like I I feel so blessed in my life that I often times Bill even as a woman of color when I look at like the the global Community as a whole like I am in a place of privilege right and so when we talked about like the larger like our larger Community is it our goals to like if you’re in a place of privilege to kind of full other people up with you like a thank you note capitalism kind of has a backwards cuz it’s like oh like the people at the top will give the poor people stuff right but like what if we like all like collectively were like just like uplifting and like helping each other so yeah I had to deal with some Trolls but ultimately it was what privilege we’re giving me the money and they’re for helping me like with myself up right and now I’m in this position where I can do the same thing for other people even though it’s not in the span of sex work anymore you know random thought sorry please preach on I’m riveted in in a very yeah it’s like this is a really really important kind of thumb conversation that probably you don’t hear to have to just sit a regular Starbucks you know thank you for space so how about telling us more about just your connection to Nature your other other aspects of your character and personality that you’re developing and and then really what you what you were if you were a theoretically to receive a lot of financial tributes and tips and donations ultimately through the the project that we’re going to both to get to talkin about in a little bit but I want to definitely just give you time to talk more about the depth of your character and really what your passions are and what what you’re doing with the means that you have and what you would do if you had a sudden influx of really like serious abundance to to take things all to the next level and so we can kind of go on a journey with you and an imaginary thank you thank you for asking so where I feel most and called to be in service to you as I’m I’m bringing yoga to underserved communities I think it’s really interesting that you know we look at the book The Western version of like yoga culture that is supposed to be rooted in like thieves like carbonetic acts of service but often times like it’s just missed the most are the community sit actually are need of these holistic resources the most and I think you know as a woman of color I feel maybe I feel more confident walking into the projects are the ghettos or the hoods and just setting up my yoga mat and doing my thing and seeing who you like stops and talks to me along the way so if I had like an influx of abundance which I will I’m going to call that in right now I would probably invest and buying more yoga mats and yoga props so I can have like my little van and just go around the different projects and get us and hoods and do pop-up yoga and not charge people money for it yeah it’s something that I it’s really interesting to me like how in America we even found the way it’s like monetize off of it like a like a like a yoga practice like me but is this and I understand people have to pay their bills but I feel like for me even with like the bookstore that I work at and I’m a worker owner at is I don’t make the most money but it’s from such a deep place of service I feel like I’m the richest person in the world and I think that mentality that mentality of the abundance has really served me on my journey so if I had an influx of abundant that’s what I would do with it I would invest and my props and maybe buy a van and deck it out hippie style and just drive around to these communities and show love and show gratitude for them and it’s just that interesting to me about the communities that are in need of like the holistic resources the most are often times the ones that have the most like limited access to it and I find that deeply troubling in the starving and I want to be a part of the solution and as a woman of color who feels like they’re in the space of privilege at times I feel like I honestly would be doing a disservice to my soul and this lifetime if I did not take this role on and if I did not take it seriously well I’m giggling and tearing up right now because it’s I just love it so much and can actually I could have this thought came into my mind is this phrase that I hope you will take it and run with it if it if it drives with you because I’ve never heard it before and I don’t know if it’s you know I’m afraid to Google it cuz it’s probably already a huge movement it’s already got books and websites everything but I have never heard these two words together but in this conversation it’s like this is this is what I hope you will claim and an impacted rhysand is the words gorilla yoga or cruelly yogini it sounds like with that van is going to be all about and I know I’ve been a Guerilla Gardener and a gorilla media activist and everybody uses that word kind of tosses it around for different things and guerrilla marketing that’s a book you know it’s a whole the whole I don’t know if I called a movement but it it probably isn’t movement within marketing and I in the book is is a guerrilla tactics is just that the underdog if people aren’t familiar it’s it’s really just the archetype of people who are even America would be considered to be based on guerrilla warfare tactics because they weren’t fighting you know in marching lines and drumming and you know giving away their position they were sniping from the trees and you know we have a proud history anyone who you know worships the flag if that’s your thing you got to be paying homage to Guerrilla tactics so I love what you’re talking about and people do flash Bob yoga stuff like that so you know that if I feel like that’s going to be at least the title of this episode is now going to be gorilla yoga with survival women Jasmine and both of us kind of have like a glove for cryptocurrencies and one of the ideas that have came to my mind is decentralized Yoga right like so you don’t need a studio like you don’t like you don’t need a bank for cryptocurrency beer and yoga studio are you going to go see her right so like yeah I like this I like this movement feel like decentralized most things awesome well okay well I’m getting chills and this is just getting better and better so I will say that yeah if if you don’t mind I’d like to spend a few minutes just kind of bringing you can have to speed Indian people who are listening or going to get the the sort of real-time one of the first now actually kind of relieved through looks into what the what the survival woman project is is now really shaping up to be how the mechanics of it are looking like they’re going to work out and because you were proposition by me you know now it’s been a few months you know have just been kind of dabbling and whether or not I wanted to move forward with this and knowing that it was sort of a a my my Dharma the the focus I want it take to move forward with this is how the survival women modeling project that I feel qualified you know and hello sir. I think we first broke up relationship I’ve ever been we’re going to have a makeup conversation now and cool but yeah so so back to the survival admin thing I would like to just kind of give you the full informed consent overview in and we can get in this moment actually just share thoughts and you can really it’s it’s going to evolve to wear well I’ll just I’ll just take a little take one breast and and try to lay it out as succinctly as if in an elevator doing an elevator picture what is sometimes called stuck in elevator pitch cuz I attempted to go on with these things but I am not going to name names here but they’re there are other modeling Enterprises out there that that I think have done a great job to bring forward the the alt modeling mystique and aesthetic and I and II praise and honour all of the all of the other entrepreneurs in his face and so I’m not going to say that I’m trying to do something better be be if you know anybody down but I will say that I believe the evolution of using Electronic media to to sell and to profit from women’s bodies that it can be done in a way that is a triple bottom line benefit Corporation when when when you know all of that good sort of thumb social impact kind of thinking and and an engineering that from a technical perspective using cryptocurrency what what I’m currently literally in the middle of developing with teams of developers all over the world I’m kind of shopping around bidding projects for different development and design aspects of this but what it comes down to is that I feel that there’s there’s well-established an existing models now for you know for sure there’s something called giveth. IO which is the aetherium Smart contract based way for people to do crowd Source funding to support charitable type of works and projects all over the world for people who are unbanked and who would be marginalized and probably choked out the nonprofit sector and it’s formal sense and so really anybody with the mission and a purpose and a plan can start to connect with these platforms now that cryptocurrency based and get attention and in crowdfunding and they don’t have to do the sketchy Ico SEC kind of taunting route of the lot of people getting in trouble for it just kind of like no deliverables no investing into a future of earnings of a company or any of those those tricky legal traps but you straight up taping people and I think that the the gift economy is really proving itself out and in the Tipping economy is and you would know that an old people and a sex work in history who know people just hit and run you with hundreds of dollars are thousands of dollars as tribute for nothing like they don’t even ask you to do anything or say anything or wear anything or send them your underwear or nothing they just go away I like I like your Vibe I like your style here it is I got to run to work but like take some money in in the crypto world at the the scope of that type of tipping and gifting is is is just astronomical so I’m out there trying to wire together this website framework to create an opportunity for establish models in the high-end you know La modeling industry because they are actually very very accessible very easy and fun to work with very professional mostly and and very open-minded and I’m having great success and and luck and Fortune working with very established model some of them having tens if not hundreds of thousands of followers and social media and all it’s going to take to light this Wildfire match to bring up all of the women of the world I believe you are willing to step into this platform you know the balance that I’m trying to strike here is that if the established models of the world get on board with this platform has some of them already have enthusiastically I might add in for you know very good rates like I’m I’m paying well and and and I’m paying more than the industry standard for very established people and they also gives you know that if if all it takes is for any of them to proudly display their association with his project and that will create what I believe to be an influx of interest and enthusiasm that will very rapidly trickle-down to those people in need women around the world who have a smartphone internet connection but maybe no money and no bank and no way to comply with them whatever the other web platforms are required in a required to do so there’s already a yeah there’s already yogini in Mexico who is going to do her introduction video for this project in Spanish with subtitles and yes I feel like the the the there are other people in crypto who are pushing the limits of sexy and sex work and spankchain is is part of that you know paradigm-shifting crypto camming kind of platform building Frontier that that that New Horizon of the technological shift and and everybody goes if the Arium Geeks man there so there such sweethearts and there’s some of the most endearing men that I have seen you know at least online some of them I’ll be meeting more closely soon but I really feel like that that the 1% that that the Occupy Movement was fighting there’s a new 1% and they’re all crypto anarchists and lot of them are there Libertarians in there Circle calculus which made me cringe for a while but now I see that they need us as much as we need them and some of them are into Ayahuasca and some of them are you know into burning man and stuff like that so I really feel like you know the the frustrated desire of all of these dudes jerking off to porn and not having an authentic and legitimate connection to the women that they were pleasuring themselves to if we give them the opportunity to tip and to support and to connect with whether it’s from camming to what I believe with the survival in Project is going to be mostly G-rated family-friendly stuff works like you know let your imagination do the work like these women are not always going to be you no teasing you teasing your cock you know so I get over it but we’re bored concerned with is that we have we build a brand that is not going to be limited by XXX you know flagging online and not going to have all that just over the top stuff I’ve been there a day that is very tedious and very kind of nerve-wracking to try to have to be compliant with all that stuff so you know what that said my my proposal really now to you and you were one of the first ones again to kind of reinvigorate me on this is that you know I would love to see a transfer of power once I can bootstrap this with my own money that I make literally working in Beverly Hills in Malibu you know working on landscapes for rich clients and take taking that money in living frugally and taking the percentage of that money and put it into hiring models to get us up the ground what it will eventually lead to is a situation where through the blockchain technology the models themselves will be will be facilitating the flow of of capital through this through the platform and then to know the trip like you said ringing other people up and raising other people up to the collective collectivization of well if you know in power and privilege it’s it’s really going to get to a point where I step away almost like Satoshi and say here is the brain work and it’s like you all it’s you it’s you you’re all stitute to run with and to you so you know that’s how I protect myself from being seduced by power and being too you know having a Founder complex and stuff is that you can build a platform and you can with crypto and blockchain walk away from it and let the users really control the destiny of it as a decentralized application and it’s going to start off with a bit of centralization to to get it you know it’s it’s hatching and its wings and out of the nest and so did Bitcoin so did everything else that there is a crucial. Where you have to take on a little bit extra responsibility but but yeah you are definitely one of the you know the keys to the queendom I’m going to just like Hannah be handing them over and and that’s that’s that’s my verbal kind of Mile High verbal white paper kind of reviews how do you get if you can now take over from from where I just left off with that and let me know how you feel about that and and yeah it will we will be creating a lot of fun stuff together and in the process moving forward came to mind as he were speaking for me on for synchronicity I’ve always kind of considered myself to be really intuitive and I remember when I first started learning about cryptocurrencies I wasn’t quite sure like how it would look but I knew that this would be something that would really like set me up for the rest of my life and you know when I first start listening to your podcast and became your friend I never in a million years would think like these two things would like I’ve realized in a way that they are like overlapping so it just feels like and maybe other people can relate to this is. Like even like the sketchy times in your life like they all are like preparing you for like the next step in your journey and that really resonates with me because quite honestly like I haven’t I haven’t done camming in like 2 or 3 years and a lot of things that I share on my social media is just mean literally showing my authentic self and being myself and it’s really interesting like the people here are like kind of gravitate towards me when I am my most authentic self and so I think this is a great opportunity for other women like me who who have followings or you know or are present in in a public way to really use their their voices and there are four Mama Gaia for a bigger purpose you know especially when we talk about ecosexuality being such a hot word right now everybody wants to be in the woods hunting yeah I just think this is like it’s a beautiful ways to combine things that are really dear to my heart and dear to your heart and you need to take care of ourselves with it and sustain ourselves with that and I think everybody is deserving of this like everybody should be able to sustain yourself with what they actually care about versus what they’re supposed to be doing but I think this is a really powerful project band and I’m honored to be working on this with you well well thank you so much it means it means so much to hear you say that and yeah from the from the deepest place in my heart you know I F I wish there was a way to and I think blockchain will ultimately facilitate this where it’s like you know whatever I feel like my misdeeds have been in my mistakes and ways that I’ve wrong people and there’s no there’s definitely I I do not want to be the single point of failure for something and I feel like is it as big as in powerful and as important as everything that you have shared in this conversation which you know I don’t not trying to put myself throw myself to the Wolves as just being the privileged white boy and what not but I will say that you know whatever whatever we’re agreeing on as being truth about the the duty to step up and and B are true authentic sexual cells and serve nature and help to dismantle patriarchy and and all these things you know I guess I’ve said to people before that in this lifetime I can honestly say that you know I have been abused and tortured and molested and raped and oppressed and incarcerated and in a lot of the ways that that women have and I won’t say women of color but I will say that bike in this life I didn’t have the ball games and barbecues that a lot of men take for granted and I didn’t have a lot of the same so I am a I am a gender traitor I don’t consider myself in transition in the enemy way of you know that I and I don’t I don’t have them not no value judgments on that whatsoever but I will say that I really I really do want to have the power Dynamic and the the what are they call it the the the shift of the financial power the the sort of yeah this this Tipping Point of men acknowledging their weaknesses and also being genuine about their help a Cherokee has wounded them and also handing the keys to the kingdom over and letting the women lead and and to some extent where appropriate collectively govern and that let there be a safe form of financial and sexual matriarchy that is going to be necessary for men to kind of ketchup and he’ll Andre wire and really earn public like we we failed with political dominance in sexual dominance sake that there’s no question about that so we need to go in time out and if there’s you no mercy for us as our Doms might you know Grant this effort time to time then we will be given a chance to to rise to the occasion but they’re really does need to be a male ego surrendering and so you know I just want to know put that out there so when haters and people that want to attack me and tell me I’m not qualified as I just want to be like hey look I’m just the messenger you know you can shoot me if you want I got to do it right somebody has to do the work so I think you are amazing for stepping up to the plate and doing the word yeah and you know I think that’s an honest conversation that people need to have Bell hooks off Austin says you know women and men have both been wounded by patriarchy and and as I was walking would like to say time for Democratic womanism hand over the key right on well we definitely touching a lot of synchronicity here and I will say that my I’m trying I will be speaking lesson listening more and there will be more of me just having a sweet smile at being a security guard and a sort of technical sort of them just backing and supporting yeah wait for for women’s voices to be heard and and the Beautiful projects that you are working on to be to be seen and adored and and also break down a lot of that pretty privilege stuff I would love for Elder I mean there will be as many types of diverse body types and facial structures and makeup no makeup hair no hair whatever it’s all really the depth of and I I I believe that we are able to see Beauty Beyond the beauty myth in and we just need to be exposed to a more mmmm the radiance of women in their Crone years and women who are BBW all that stuff is all what we what we yearn for is that diversity and at texture of life in every different body type and every different appropriate age and all that good stuff so yeah let’s sew with all that. Yeah you we really did me a huge favor to like bear with me to 2 to hear all this and I wanted to bow down and bail out a bit and say please do meet us out of this of this podcast with perhaps you know what whatever is on your mind whatever you feel like I’m sharing from from your heart and then if you’d be so kind as to kind of clothes with you with your meditative black girl affirming prayer magic and the podcast women that’s like tactics the kindest rough like they’re their heteronormative monogamous relationships as a distraction I used to work Primal several times to reference like a emotions like jealousy but instead of using the word Prime alumni replace that with the word ego-driven because I think it’s really important to acknowledge because I actually I think being Primal very healthy and a lot of ways and it’s something that we should be more into tapping into you that I’m going to use the word ego and not Primal and I don’t think I could like walk away this without saying bye House of the firming I spell black BLK because I think that the way black is spell and like our culture black kind of like is this unspoken connotation as if black is lacking something but actually black is desorption of all colors that I like Blk and then girl is g i r l a n d white girlfriend name and yeah it’s already been I’m going to invite you to find a comfortable seat once again and to just really begin to focus on those shorter in Hell’s and those longer X house grounding here to this moment with gratitude and love and gratitude for the internet to help us create community that we wouldn’t have if it if it was not for so thank you Ben thank you so much yes we will be in touch very soon and everybody stand by for the forthcoming launch of the survival woman.com spelled w o y let me write that down and I will start it over again it will be it will be one second and today is July 8th today is July 12th and my goal is to have a beta testing version of the website survival woman.com up in the next few weeks and that’s Survival spell normally and women spelled w o m b y a.com so survival and that will be up soon and you will be featured as one of the first and yeah one of the first models on that website and we will have some very fun content going and we will also be yeah eventually hey I think was probably going to happen is that the survival woman will have its own podcast and maybe you will be one of hopefully many hostesses to bring that like I would love to just put your facilitate that that part of the platform as well so I sent it to think about half your debt if you want to be in that kind of role as well so yeah alright well then let’s call it a podcast and we’ll be in touch very soon thank you so much again Jasmine and yeah have a wonderful rest of your gorilla yogini afternoon what’s a good day. 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