In this episode I’m joined by an extraordinary goddess on a path towards high level divine feminine leadership. I was enchanted by her very accessible and down to earth social media posts about shamanic healing and feel strongly that she’ll be able to raise consciousness within cyberspace with her natural glamour and light working skills that she’s continually developing to take herself and followers to the next level.
Her story of healing and endurance through great hardship is more than enough to motivate anyone to snap out of self-limiting stories, wake up and rise towards their destiny.
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Vanessa LeMaistre is a Spiritual & Soul Empowerment Activist. Her platform provides a self-improvement/positive lifestyle brand to customers who are looking to feel whole within themselves. Vanessa has overcome a lot and believes if she could, so can you. Vanessa is very inspirational and she aspires to inspire. She provides inspirational youtube videos on her youtube channel: www.youtube.com/uareart and on her social media platforms she promotes exerts and positive affirmations from her upcoming book. You can find her on social media platforms such as Ig, snapchat, Twitter under the name: vanessasoulxo which is also the name of her website domain. Her Facebook is her first and last name: Vanessa LeMaistre
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Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 155 I’m being joined by Vanessa Le mystery and she is Vanessa Soul EXO on social media and I discovered her work first by Instagram very lovely photographs exuding spiritual consciousness and artfulness that is really nice to see a really refreshing in the sort of sea of of people who were maybe not necessarily representing something from a deeper a deeper level of Justice in there you know lovely pictures doing the things out there in the world so I’m always always piques my interest to see people taking it to a higher level and then I even went down the rabbit hole and watch some YouTube videos inside there’s some really important powerful insights that Vanessa sharing a mainly with the video that I would like the most was all about an experience of shamanic soul-retrieval and the people who may have listened to podcast before or into Shamanism what other practitioners or students or or just fans of this sort of movement heard about that and and it’s kind of a really complicated thing and there’s a lot of elements to a but she’s able to break it down really nicely and I thought why not have her on to share that experience in more detail and can I give people more interested in also being just introduction to the work she’s doing and when I get to Taco also about just the the opportunities and the psychology of trying to get a foothold and get it a little slice of the pie in this whole social media new world of opportunity that can really Empower folks and not only the producers but also the consumer to the content just really with everybody up so with all that said Vanessa thank you for being here and please tell us about your personal background how did you get to be in this position you’re in now I’m I was born in Miami Florida and I guess I died but I’ve always been pretty deep but they are usually don’t say this but I feel comfortable sharing it with you that I recently discovered I’m an indigo child I think apparently the stars were lying so basically they figured out if you were at the planets line up in a certain way a lot of people are born when those planets were aligned then they’re mostly indigo’s but the thing with indigo’s is your born with a lot of wounds so you have two most indigo’s go through a lot of adversity from the time they’re born which was definitely my case I was abandoned by my dad I was sexually abused from 5 to 14 and all the pain I had to build this strength and the thing about indigo’s is where natural Warriors because they say we had many past lives going through things so being the child that I was and going through that type of adversity I had to build and cultivate positive energy and finding a way to think positively about life and I’ll say when I was about 21 I got introduced to The Celestine Prophecy which was a spiritual book that really changed my life I want out of this whole journey of spiritual growth and it wasn’t until I went through even more trauma just a box that you I I graduated from college move back to Miami Florida worked at one of the biggest nightclubs in South Beach is making very lucrative money so I would travel to India I got certified as teaching yoga I went on this whole path and I realized I can’t keep working here I need to go move forward with my goals so I moved to LA I lived there for four years and I was starting my self-help book because I really feel like I have a calling on a mission that I want to give back and hopefully Influence People backdating to when I was 21 I did have this guy read my palm for free and he read my cousins, as well told her she’s going to be a doctor at this time she was getting mad now she has her doctorate degree he also told her she can have a bunch of kids she’s a beautiful Belgian baby boy stunning and what he told me was that I’m a shaman and I was like what I don’t even know what that was so now that I’m getting into Shaman Shaman says you already know what the soul retrieval I am planning on taking up Shamanism because I do feel like I have that calling in my life but it wasn’t until I was in LA right when I finished my first draft of my self-help book you know here I am thinking okay I finished my first draft I want to be a motivational speaker I’m ready to take off then I went through like the biggest tragedy anyone could ever wrap their minds around I gave birth to a beautiful baby boy named Camden food literally changed my entire life but three days after he was born we found out something was wrong and when he was rushed to the NICU they found out she was having 96 seizures a minute and three weeks later they discovered he had a fatal disease that she was not going to make it he was going to live for three months backs I was like is this a fucking joke and I’m like what is going on right now so I knew that I had to pull every single ounce of strength in my entire being every bit of knowledge that I gained from overcoming adversity is Too Faced this detrimental thing I was about to face of oh my God I’m going to lose my son so I did that I pulled in every Source I started meditating I was hiking I was seeing a therapist I was doing yoga you name it I was in the battlefield and I was also determined to give him as much love as possible so thankfully he lives for more than three months he looks for full 9 months and he showed me so much his Spirit his energy was just a fighter and there were times when I thought about giving up and I was like man if he didn’t give up why why am I going to give up so that really propelled my journey and took it to another level because I never lost anyone before that I was close to you and this is probably the closest person to me my own flesh and blood and I’ll say that after I lost him I mean I wasn’t even here I was out of it and the past it getting my my life back into a normal state required a lot of spiritual growth I knew once he was diagnosed I knew my book was not done I knew my journey hasn’t hadn’t even started for a judgments were with where I was planning to go in life but I will say that the experience drives me deeper into myself then I could have ever imagined which is why I thought led to doing the soul-retrieval just very intense experiences I’ve I’ve been led to do for healing because it took me to that next level of a human trauma but also a human transformation and learning how to transcend those things so that I’m not a victim of past adversities but I’m more so of Victor and I can Propel my life forward so my engagements are still going I’m literally in the process of building a platform right now not just socially or just through Instagram excetera but but really with the hopes of building something very concrete so that way I can be all of the above a self-help author a motivational speaker inspirational speaker / Heeler because I am on the way to actually getting a master’s degree in a leadership program and Colorado where I will simultaneously be taking Shamanism courses so long with being a Healer I’m also starting a nonprofit in dedication to my son Camden where we can bring smiles and literacy and meditation to Children eventually all over the world well well thank you so much I’m just heartbroken and speechless I can’t imagine that I know that is the loss of a child is considered to be the worst thing a person on Earth can face really in and I I’ve lost people close to me but certainly nothing of that of that extreme nature although I guess the closest I’ve I’ve been is just been in I’ve had been in relationships were there been miscarriages and abortions and so I’ve been through that some tips on the male and which is obviously no nowhere near nowhere even close so I can I’m just sitting with this in and feeling very moved in does it does sound like what you’ve overcome gives you a lot of and for people that has it’s just really a wake-up call for people who are you don’t have petty petty limitations that they’re they’re not anywhere near that that extreme and if you can come out the other side and I like I never heard that that boost words put together so closely victim vs. Victor. What a perfect you’re already on your way to a two-year that that leadership role if you can use those little mind hacks and and get people waking up so that’s really great so if I’m curious what your role at the nightclub what week what was your what was your role at that nightclub bring up in Miami is a city I’ve always been a city girl so I’ve naturally so I started partying on it when I was 17 years old it was very fun it was it was crazy I mean we had every A-list celebrity that club is still going off strong it’s called live at the fountain blue it’s a five-star hotel and they got all the big Heavy Hitters from Kanye West to Puff Daddy Lil Wayne every hip hop artist you can think about the not only hip-hop they do Tiesto and it’s just insane I remember one year for New Year’s Eve general admission tickets were literally $900 and if you wanted to sit at a table you had to spend a minimum of twenty Grand the most I’ve ever sold at a table was $100,000 worth of bottles literally on chest I was feeling like I was not exploiting people but I was partaking in people selling their souls on a daily basis nothing negative to say about the nightclub it was a great experience however you ceased how much there I mean there’s Drug Money there’s escorts there’s guys literally throwing dollar bills in the air and girls going home to sleep with them because they’re popping bottles actually I was very close with the woman very pretty recently and I’m kind of ongoing who was all up in that exact kind of Lifestyle in Vegas where it sounds like exactly the same thing and it just blew my mind I had no idea I mean I assume that there was lavishness but that extent of just the conspicuous consumption you know it would be called in sociological terms in it’s a while so that’s great because I mean one thing that she that made her a very gregarious and very outgoing and Confident Woman and it really I can see the the effect especially like she was kind of managing the the whole stripper her husband was managing managing the strippers at these clubs and there is a lot of just trauma and Brokenness in all of that that sort of financial ecosystem and and she had to come and live with that her soul was kind of wounded by being a part of that that economy in but then she also was able to befriend them in her own shamanic healing kind of intrinsic nature was able to help them kind of threw that stuff so I’m sure you have a do you have a soft spot is a spot in your heart for the bus a single mothers who were in that game or if we’re trying to get out of that game and all that kind of stuff are there was a forty-one-year-old you would never know she was 41 but it’s all she knows so absolutely because I do think what you said you had a really good point a lot of those women I mean even including myself a lot of them were victims of sex abused or they feel like that’s the only way that they can validate themselves in a sentence to some degree or that that’s the only way they can get lucrative money when in reality you know women are not only sex body parts but you have a brain or like you said you can be inspiring you can have a message and I think a lot of women don’t necessarily know that especially in our society when we are taught that we have retro living in a society where is over-sexualized in a sense so we’re kind of taught that that’s all that were were when really it’s so much more all right well so do you want to talk about your experience with the shamanic soul-retrieval that was was a pretty recently or girls with a shaman the first one was not a soul-retrieval I just went for a regular healing in Miami Florida about 7 years ago and that was interesting where she kind of pulled up into my chamber of the wounds that she picked up that I was sexually abused from like many many many lifetimes this was like a repetitive thing going on and I was like oh my God you’re right cuz I didn’t tell her anything about me and not only did she pick that up but she also picked up who I really am which I believe we all have this within us what our and vision is for a true selves so she was able to pick up that truly what I am is a queen and I believe truly we all are kings and queens but the fact that she was able to pick that up in the midst of the Chamber of wounds I thought was very fascinating now this experience that I recently had with the soul-retrieval was very very intense and a very beautiful experience the lady when I met her she said her name is Costanza Morningstar over here in Silver Springs Maryland she asked me when she met me why do you want to do this and I told her I don’t think anyone doesn’t need healing on this planet I don’t I don’t care how old you are I feel like everyone is gone through something where they could heal from and a lot of people’s personalities in that sense actually went while driving and road rage but for me I I just knew that I had a lot of Hang-Ups and a lot of other traumas that weren’t as may be a severe is my big lifetime adversity is that that kind of left me hung up and I knew that I didn’t want to go forward with that just hanging there so I actually meditated on the things that are why is it sealed prior to the soul-retrieval session with her and one of them was a previous best friend who supposedly spent 20 grand on a curse like a black magic curse on me and it was something that I’ve it took years to forget it was coming up but it was just always in the back of my mind and I really wanted some help cutting up that cord if that makes any sense and I wanted to retrieve the part of my soul that I knew I lost from that experience because not only did I lose the best friend I lost a part of myself and that was just one thing you know losing my son’s father he wants me in the middle of my pregnancy and and married his ex-girlfriend so I knew that wasn’t hang up I wanted to retrieve my soul from so there was a couple of these things I meditated on and she was like Wow Vanessa I think because you took the time and I would recommend this to anyone doing a soul-retrieval is to take the time to meditate on what you want to heal because that’s exactly what’s going to come up in those parts of your soul will come back to you during the retrieval so I walk in I tell her these people ain’t I tell her a little bit more about myself and she’s like okay well I’ll just stay open and let’s get to it be every Shopkin has Spirit helpers that work with them and the point of this experience is when you go through a trauma a part of your soul leaves as a defense mechanism I know for me many parts of me left going up because I had a best friend say Vanessa how can you just block things out like that and it’s because it’s not cuz I had a superpower is because as a child certain things I went through we’re just too intense I had to tap out but every time I was tapping out and blocking those things out that was my soul leaving to it to feel stays so what she was able to do was she was literally able to grab those pieces back because according to her when they leave you there actually being healed their healing themselves so she brought those healed pieces back to me with certain good and for me it was a lot she retrieves five different soul hearts and after the fifth one she told me her spirit helpers told her that’s enough for today cuz it was just too much so she started off with me laying on my back and she was doing her chanting she was dancing to her Spirit guides and animals you were helping her and she was taking notes in the middle of her session the power went off completely and she couldn’t really function appropriately because she needed some music so she had to do it with her mouth she improvised but it ended up working out fine I swear to God by the end of the session the lights all came back on it was like perfect timing but one of the gifts that she did mention was that for example when my son’s father left me the gift that thoughtful part brought back to me is to learn to love myself again because they’re edit it kind of makes sense when he left a part of me felt like I didn’t know how to love myself like oh my God what’s wrong with me you know why did he abandon me so that was empowering another Soul part that came back to me was my five year old self that was the first age I was when I was sexually abused and although I was abandoned by my father at birth she said from the age of five to seven my inner child felt very abandoned and I’ve I was crying hysterically when she said that because I didn’t correlate that I just correlated my experience with oh my God I was sexually abused I didn’t realize that wow I needed I needed nurturing I needed someone to talk to me so I wouldn’t feel so abandoned and alone but the gift that that 5 year old child brought back to me was the gift of moving forward and not feeling stuck moving becoming allowing myself to be truly independent which also makes sense if you think about someone who feels abandoned they might not have the strength to move forward and feel independent and autonomous and they’re being so it was very all of the gift she brought back to me were extremely empowering and and to be honest she knew that I couldn’t leave right away she’s like I want you to just seen a look around the room integrates all of this that just came back to you and she she warned me that I would feel a little drained or I might feel very energetic because she brought all this energy back into me and to close out her session she proposing a lot of Divine Light because she’s pulling so much back into your being that she has to fill it with white Divine Light or else she says anything can just take home your body which obviously you wouldn’t want so the next couple of days I noticed that I was very out of it and drained and the weirdest things are happening two things one I was getting a little moody in like very very very Bitchie and I wasn’t sure what was going on I felt like it was some residue from just past issues that we’re coming up in and kind of expelled out of my body and the other thing that was happening that was very beautiful is I started to feel more of my spirit inside of me like I literally started to feel more full and that’s the best way I can describe it and I’ve read different articles that say these things take months sometimes or weeks or even years you’ll just keep feeling yourself become more and more integrated more and more whole it was definitely fascinating and honestly I want to go back for more because it seemed like I had more parts to retrieve but that session was just enough to do 5 that was more that was like a Max for me that day so I do plan on getting another session done future well I love the way you talk about this it’s really is I’m just stuck in Imagine women eventually getting their nails done or their hair done at the beauty salon and then started talking about these experiences and it’s and it’s as normal as talking about going to the auto mechanic for a tune-up or an oil change so I didn’t know I thought I had it all back together but there was a whole other chunk missing and misses work that’s a good thing because this is the first time I’ve really heard the narrative that you’re saying about how they’re getting healed and they’re heading to bring back a gift and it’s it isn’t just the the dreary side of Ono these horrible things happen and wouldn’t it be nice to be whole again but if you can actually have a some additional benefit a sort of prize for your suffering in a way then that’s even more incentive to want to take this stuff seriously if you know you might you might actually benefit and have unexpected you know value come back either that means another another girl so glad you brought up the importance of sort of ceiling the container if you will because yeah if your it’s almost like you just had open heart surgery and if you don’t get bandage properly you stay open for infection so so with that gift I think I find it very fast and then she brought back was that now I’ll be able to trust friends and friendship and I’m honestly noticing myself just being more social letting people in a little bit easier getting and it’s honestly helping me give love two people more easily instead of like cuz sometimes I think if we get hurt by people it’s easy for us in the back of our minds stay ready just presuppose they’re going to hurt us or if that person is judgmental when we really haven’t given them a chance but I’m finding I’m doing that a lot less and I’m just more easily giving love two friends that’s awesome yeah I know I’m a big believer in the power of overly just that everybody everybody’s kind of constantly cursing themselves and others very unconsciously and not usually with too much skill or Consciousness books so that’s pretty much what we’re having just constantly complaining and judging everything and and they’re putting things down and everything have to be somehow beneath us to protect ourselves from really taking responsibility to think so you know when people take it to the next next level and then start actually hire professionals it’s it’s a much bigger practice throughout other parts of the world and here it’s not so but there it does exist and and and for people to take that very seriously that’s a huge part of you know maintenance and self-care is to just do the cord clearing cutting loving or you want to call her so would you think you’ll be doing any like as you start studying and stuff more doing videos where you just kind of give daily tips or self-care basic shamanic the next video I do on YouTube will be about my inner healing but I’m doing lately it’s just been getting very intense in my meditations and just even learning the art of Court cutting she I was doing it a little bit before but this Sean and specifically specifically helped me do some more concrete cord-cutting for example and that practice alone I feel like would be great tips to share and just even the things I’m discovering my in my medications or things that people are sharing with me this might be a little extreme for me to go into topics fully right now but there’s something going on in in my left eye since my son was diagnosed and it’s very energetic so I can’t really find too much information on it but about two weeks ago a woman sent me an article on Shamanism specifically with a practice for healing the left eye and I was like so I just think that when anyone is open to that inner healing Journey things to start coming your way with tips and tricks and synchronicities where it’s just that the other perfect timing type of thing so I will definitely go into descriptions and tips with feelings that I’m fighting for myself because it’s definitely a focus from me right now is healing and I know that from watching other shamans they’re at their point is to kill them quickly and fast so they can start doing the work on others because they know that they to need to heal before their linguistic programming practitioner and he was able to defeat phobias and interrupt patterns of people’s long-standing neurotic sir loops and their minds that had just been crippling them and it’s interesting because a lot of the shamanic techniques which are even more more deeply rooted in traditional cultures and have more of a track record than then even modern you know psychological hacking techniques but as busy as real as I know those are it’s also if you can connect someone to a spirit animal while they’re on stage in front of a thousand you know 10,000 people and then they have a revelation and that’s proof in the pudding and that’s really good for yellow building that kind of leadership and and it’s not it’s not giving key if you can change someone’s life and you know really make a difference to see something like that Bakery I’m so big on power Danimals to I just leave everybody has them and they’re here for where is and and it’s such a unique personal Bond the way the strommen constanza describe it to me she said do you know they’re not it’s it’s it’s like a real pet it’s really you know how you bond with your dog and they become like your best friend that she’s like that’s what all of us have with our power are power animals in our are animal totems when they show up in our lives for us SCI Greene with you how do you and your conception at this point of just the role of Spirit guides DUI I guess I have my own my own personal relationship my own opinions I feel like for the most part they’re trying to communicate like if you’re not actively if you’re not actively developing rapport to to connect with and speak to and listen to them in in in NB Fielding in new insights and they’re going to have to just throw you hints by any means necessary and it could be like making you trip and fall so that you see something from word on the spray paint on the wall and then that gives you a little but they if they if you don’t give them a voice than they will just do their best to eat to get in a word in edgewise and it will certainly be unfriendly guys who are trying to subvert your path and there they will be way more in charge like driving you know I’m driving the ship the ship for you without question is so do you want to talk about the bit about your yeah that stepping into that awareness yet you my relationship with them but Aldo their new it’s been very intense and a very strong bond I’m building with them I used to want to learn how to connect with them so badly and I wasn’t getting answers I wasn’t sure how to do it if it was working and the more quiet I got the more okay I became with tuning into the inner world the more I realized it’s actually just happening and for me for example I just started getting very close to one of them named Alexandria a woman who I had a psychic once told me that she’s living through you vicariously because she’s had different lifetimes where she was abused but she knows how to have this tough badass attitude even though she was abused and she’s like a warrior goddess and a friend of mine suggested it’s good to set up an appointment time kind of how you would meet with your friend let’s say you’re meeting with Joe and you’re like Hey Joe let’s meet up at 4 p.m. at Starbucks so I tried it with her and I was like okay 11:30 I’m going to meet up with you and I were making some mugwort tea and I lo and behold forgot the time but when I look it was literally 11:30 on the dot I was like okay and when I close my eyes I was able to Envision her clear her body clearly she was tan skin long hair curvy but beautiful and she was about my size and from that moment on for the next couple days I swear to God I kept looking at the time and I was always 11:30 p.m. or I would just get beard to look at a sign and it would say Alexandria which is how I knew that’s her name and so building that rapport with her specifically has allowed me to understand more the Dynamics of dealing with my other Spirit guides because we we all have more than one sometimes I think I’ve heard that we can have just like one for dominant one in our lives depending on what’s going on but usually we have more than one so I’ve been connecting with different guys like the guy who I believe gives me wisdom and I don’t know if you smoke marijuana or not but sometimes if I’m smoking or even if I’m not smoking out of nowhere it’s like boom and invite will come through and I know it wasn’t thinking about anything but all of a sudden. Just dropped out and it seems like thin air but really that’s your guys giving you information and what job and so I’ve learned to pay attention to those cues for example if I’m not thinking about something beforehand and all of a sudden and insight comes I know it’s my guys or being looked like you said it’s some people might have to trip and fall to see the sign on the billboard but sometimes if you’re just driving and all of a sudden you look and you don’t know what made you look to the left at that billboard those are your Spirit guides and same thing with the animals I literally recently stopped eating meat cold turkey because I was connecting with beer and ice how do you do that how did what do you mean how why would you stop eating meat because of that explain to her that I feel like we as human beings are sold and so are the animals they have souls inside so I feel like if we communicate on we send send messages to those Souls they pick it up I was just driving one night and my bass was bumping really loud and the deer was just looking right into my soul and we literally had a moment and I could feel it was understanding every single message I was giving chew it so from that moment on I was just like no I’m done with eating me I’m just I’m done and Deerwood keep showing up in my life and it really becomes this beautiful bonding experience where you know that they’re connecting with you because because you feel the joy you start feeling happy you know that the Sean actually suggested to dance to your animals because the Spirit guides and animals date they want to have human experiences so I know some people give offerings and she said if you dance then they’re going to dance with you because I really really like engage Man in The Human Experience has been doing that lately and leaving offerings for whether it’s goddesses that are coming to my life at the moment or that I’m connecting with and I just start to feel close to them and it’s beautiful because you realize that you don’t need to have them physically here and they can be kind of closer to you then if someone is physically there with you it’s really fascinating and it’s it’s me it’s like a world of trust but also such a beautiful beautiful spiritual experience are you telling me that you don’t just sit around watching Netflix all all the time and all your free time you’re actually engaging your own life experience and directing your own life movie that’s why I stopped watching TV so long ago I’m just not into TV and I think it’s great you know anything’s wrong with it and just yeah there’s more spiritual things you could be doing that’s kind of just the meantime if that is your lifestyle I hopefully your Spirit guides will help you select the films that you need to get you like The Celestine Prophecy is actually film to so everyone starts over there at in in in yeah I do actually I’ll say a very grateful to streaming media because that’s how I’ve really built a lot of my education there’s so much so many people like you are out there making content now that you can actually access it even if you are totally plugged in and you’re not really exercising your own reality staying so you know there’s a couple things I want to thank you for for bringing up definitely the the spiritual bonding with animals is a huge factor that comes out and and I love that you were bringing up the I’ve had very many similar experiences of of being happy my attention and my focal point be directed without my conscious designer our awareness and just all the sudden I’m at you know something in the periphery of my vision like I could be reading something on the center of a screen and then then like you said all kind of feel this also the sort of jerk or it’s not like a uncomfortable it’s just sort of immediately brought to awareness of all of the numbers on the clock being the same 555 11:11 is just as soon as I just feel like it’s it’s always has a reminder that there are other beings who are either either perceiving reality around you through your eyes somehow or is there and they’re sort of connected through like a Wi-Fi or Bluetooth looks like they have your eyes they can do it yeah and so that’s one way to knowing that the actually that started happening for me more than ever after some soul retrieval experiences so I kind of feel like it’s they want to help you not be a skeptic and not doubt when you have profound experiences they will be like see there is more than meets the eye and ear will keep moving it’s oh so you don’t lose Faith at school can I hook it up yeah it’s going to be shy at school so do you want to talk about what you have planned what you’re you know what you have from just now that you’re kind of a I mean yeah what would you decided to integrate this stuff and then become do this leadership training and get a master’s degree as his awesome so what do you what do you for what are you serious or your longer-term goals with all this said that the program is interesting because it’s it’s environmental base which they were explaining the importance of of our star spiritual responsibility to connecting with the Earth because it’s alive and how everything is intertwined with that and not only is it environmentally base its social justice based which I think is also our due diligence and responsibility to connect with on as as every person and taking that personal responsibility so I’m really looking forward to that experience especially because it is out of spiritual School although it’s accredited the founders Buddhist the students go to school Barefoot if they shoes it’s very non-judgmental and I’m really fascinated about it because the whole school’s consensus is about diving into yourself and connecting with others and and having the rock courage to do that and really being able to pull back the layers which I think are all very important to learning leadership skills and not only for yourself but also with connecting with others and the specific program is called resilient leadership because it’s about sustaining an organization because anyone can start an organization but can you sustain it can you keep a resilient so for me I’m I’m finding this as being something beneficial as I Propel forward and really build a platform for for myself as a African American descent female who’s trying to be an inspirational speaker and that’s that’s a platform that you don’t go to school for you can’t just you know wake up and say okay I’m going to start speaking in that it’s as easy as that it’s really a lot of working a lot of building so I’m really excited about that and as soon as I move to Colorado next week I’ll be actually taking up something what you’re doing I’m taking up a tantra healing practice wear according to them they say it’s non-sexual I’m I’m going to be a Nubian it and learning the healing modalities of Tantra but according to them they said it’s mostly energy healing through the chakras and their just calling it Tantra so maybe you can explain a little bit more share a little bit of that because that is what I’ll be diving into as soon as I got there actually is perfect saying only synchronicities yeah me too to just put put a little note out on on my thoughts on this site I think the best the best way I can share the reality of proportionality of sexuality in Toronto training is really that the sex chakra is 1 of 7 so that’s the 7th of the total picture of your total being and if if the goal is to Inn in the neotantra we’re young people often criticized the modern Western use of the word Tantra because it has become hyper sexualized and even when the intention is there among Steelers and in teachers to have integrity and and hold the the bigger full seven chakra & Beyond sort of bigger picture of what it means to be spiritually healthy and have sexuality not be cut out of that and not and not be ignored it’s like it can be over emphasized and then people can get stuck there where they can get abusive there and certainly with so much trauma healing that needs to happen there’s a tendency really a foul and vile tenancy for unpeeled people or people who are kind of not fully conscious and they become susceptible to forces that will literally possess them to to to create more wounding and deeper wounding in those trauma healing state so it’s them it’s it’s it’s the biggest tragedy in the biggest sick kind of irony so I have a lot of respect for the people who are distancing themselves from those patterns and I know that there’s three it’s just so hard to tell me every school has has different light and Shadow about it and you know what my biggest I guess my for me I feel like the what usually is a safe the safest bet is to work with for women to work with women to heal each other using tantric techniques to connect to the router on Shakti to connect to their own Durham Kundalini and tonight not associate that activation of their own Divinity with having sex with a guru you know that that’s Austin what gets conflated is that in light sexual Enlightenment happens when a woman goes to a male Guru either in India or somewhere in the world and pays them a lot of money instead of the sort of like even you know him and so yeah I say if you’re bypassing that all together that’s a good a good thing because often it ends up being a bad story and then for people who especially women who are sexually traumatized you want to experience the sexual Liberation that comes from the tantric practices than there are I have you know a list of the women who I respect most throughout the world who were doing this work and we’re really Vigilant about how male energy comes into the space if you know if and when it’s appropriate and I feel like there’s a better the most glorious path with is when sexually wooden people pick up the tools amongst trusted you know facilitators and instructors and then once the healing his start to really happen and you start to grow a mature then then it’s appropriate to go and share that energy with other like male Masters or male practitioners who who are not going to be like way above a person’s level like if you think about a lot of the the women who were like we were talking about strippers you know in general and and not to put them down or anything but if if they have not been formally educated because they had to start working the streets or working the club’s when they were supporting their family cuz it came from poverty and you know if there was never a chance to really grow academically intellectually in that sense and and if the the sexual maturity is that of still pandering to and pleasing the abuser because it’s the only attention you’re getting then even if you’re 30 years old or whatever you may not be you still may be operating from a very juvenile mindset and that goes for men and women I mean I I came from a male sex worker background so I know I’ve ever experienced the same thing I mean you can be stuck in your development and if someone who is a higher level of spiritual sexual Mastery comes along and it literally takes advantage of your vulnerability then I consider that to be as culpable as actually abusing children because in a sense that’s spiritually that’s where things are at so people can come up and really ethically develop themselves in the company of other trusted people wear that Dynamic really is precluded then it’s kind of the more glorious thing is that you can graduate from those kind of human experiences in and have the initiation of experiencing the Tantra goddesses and the tantric deities and all that good stuff and then from a more healed place then go and have fun and share that share the energy and make sure you know you’re not being drained and by parasites and vampires out there that’s my public service announcement about Martino work what you got to watch out for but it sounds like you’re going to be and I know it’s the last thing I would say is it a lot of people have bad experiences with tantric meetups with Tantra Masters are schools and what time it’s really I feel like you got to give it you got to give it at least a handful of different try to go to a handful of different people and places and experience different modalities before you make a full judgment about whether or not it’s right for you to even pursue anymore because you never know you know you might not get the best experience right away but if you do that they’re due diligence oh yes oh that sounds cool you going to move to your moving to Colorado for a training or yeah tell us more about that but simultaneously so part-time while we doing is energy work I’ll do I’ll learn Tantra healing modality and then on the side I’ll be learning Shamanism so I’ll be able to incorporate both modalities and grow grow on my path as I keep going as a Healer and really just learning to cultivate giving and and doing my Dharma I truly feel like I came to helping spirit so it’s to me it is about service and and contributing and ways that I can to to help someone evolve and really really heal themselves so I’m really excited about that and my book I’m I’m also going to be working on finishing my my final chapter of my book which will be coming out the end of this year were most likely the beginning of 2019 which if my schedule is not too crazy hopefully I can go and book stores you know so I’m really excited about all of these Endeavors that are finally growing because I planted the seeds 45 years ago and I’ve just kept going and going and going and I I just have never given up and and for me giving up is not an option it’s just to keep propelling forward because to be honest I feel like there was a big blessing and in Camden coming and leaving it’s kind of like well man I feel more of a more more of the determination to come here to fulfill what I came here to fulfill if that makes any sense I feel like we all have a burning desire for something and for me it’s these goals that I have that that I’m really that are really starting to sprout right now so it’s definitely like a sprouting season for me right now but it’s like the little buds are just starting to sprout if that makes sense so it’s very exciting so I knew there was something more than meets the eye when I saw you an Instagram again I just feel like I have all these all these different people in my feed coming through I’m just sort of studying the the effects on culture of this new medium we’re really unlike ever before and I’m old enough now in my late thirties to Remember When there were actually try to think about it now I when I was when I was growing up even around getting through puberty and wanting to be sexually available in sexually expressive and all of those things and just being like it cost a lot of money to go and buy film for a camera and then you take those pictures then you have to go and wait for like a week to have it developed and then who is ever going to see those pictures you might put them in the album they might go on a shelf but there is no way you’re not going to go around to everybody in the school and say hey like we’re going to spend imagine how long it would take if if the level of rapid and even things like Snapchat now so it’s in it’s such a it’s crazy but that’s I guess the hope is that if if it’s going to just be the soup of insults and shaming and bullying and there can be just wherever the light can shine through it can have a big big impact because it’s and it’s going to be needed so you know we can’t walk away from it the fact that we can do all this now you know how it sits and then you can be a magnet and I will say that you know if it if it doesn’t offend you you know for me to to speak in this way I think it’s just because it’s an academic study for me at this point not that I don’t have some like sort of you know I’m still have the stream of images and and they’re all triggering different parts of you you know to see all of that guy’s got bigger muscles than me or that that’s the woman of my dreams and I’ll never even meet her and you know they’re so fancy and I’m whatever you think you’re going through a million of these of these sort of a cycles and I it’s what you know everybody is kind of anorexia or this dysmorphia from social media where they call it like social upward compare or what it comparison or whatever and you know two to be an Angelic force in that realm and to be someone who you know I’m striving to be at if I could get really really fit then people will listen to me like fathom that I guess that’s just how it works though. That motivates me to do more push-ups or do whatever it takes because then it amplifies my voice you know what it is it’s just that is what it is if I was just too thin you know Yogi out there with a giant beard you know after the mountains may be a few people might come and make a donation and and listen to me kind of Babel or something but but if I can actually get out there and compete with all these people who were poor so influential then so be it and so you know when I see the this interesting the sort of hourglass Obsession in media now which is changed from the very thin model the very Western white no features no curves Paradigm and how that shifted to a much more goddess figure or traditional and is so I feel like the as much as we’re living in the patriarchy the fact is if you look at the numbers on the social media is kind of printing out the true reality that everybody is still actually worshipping the voluptuous email for him and so to be able to and then you know I don’t I’m not missed I feel like there’s a place just to study I’m not going to say what is right or wrong for for whatever but I will say that when I look at the numbers and do the math the people the women who are the sort of exuding that that that figuring out are the ones with millions and millions and millions of followers and I look at some of their profiles and it’s been ages have 10 pictures of Wonder at the beach another one there you know at the gym and other one there at the club and end in your legs is a fake profile as someone just scrape these images and put it together because if it’s that easy ones going to hire a few models that that look like that and then I’ll put chakras in the background of their picture I’ll put you know some shamanic drumming thing going on in the picture and that will just sort of but know some people that sleep for real and doing it so I see you’re you infinite growth potential in that direction and and I’m I’m going to yeah just energetically and and it’s some point hopefully financially be supporting efforts type of people like you to actually you know you’re you were in the in the eyes of the masses that the low-hanging fruit that’s actually potential to really fertilize in in in four people so that’s my analysis is no that’s my analysis so far but how do you feel about that yeah do you do you sense that you I mean just I love to hear I’m very curious since I have these out of it and I’m like window shopping for souls to build alliances with and then night you know from your perspective you’re actually your enchanting people with your likeness and is doing the magic so what is your experience like and what do you feel this like you were responsibility there and in all that good stuff. And you really hurt so many great points and a great observation I feel like I’m by Nature I’m not a competitive person so I don’t believe in competing with others so I haven’t really too much struggled with a hole comparison aspect and I’ve had girlfriends who I overheard many time say oh I try to stay off of it because it makes me feel bad about myself I start comparing you know why am I not a stand why is my waist not as thin why is my but not as big and I feel like that’s also an easy Rabbit Hole to fall down into if you’re not conscious or conscientious of your worth and Anna of the beautiful aspect of being able to have this Liberation to express yourself in your own authentic way I do feel like the the portal that is a bit available to us is so empowering for the female species because because it can go to different ways we can either be shamed for it which is something growing up in a Haitian Family household I was always kind of shamed for dressing quote on quote sexy but for me it’s very liberating because I don’t have a family that I need to worry about telling me Oh that’s too revealing I have the freedom to to post whatever it is that I want to post and I think I love those pages of women for example who are just being Rebels and there they have their titties out and they’re breastfeeding and they’re saying you know it’s kind of like feminism because we are feel like the amber rose slutwalk for example we have the right to look as sexy as we want and not necessarily have to be shamed as being a slut so I find that is very very liberating and I feel like a specially when a woman can tie into the deeper level underneath that sex that sexy for example whether it’s a message or whether it’s chakras or and even if it’s not something spiritual let’s say her messages just being fit and healthy I think combining those aspects is so empowering for others just to look into so they can find out within themselves that’s music to my ears and so what do you feel like are some strategies are our plans or or did you are you thinking okay I’m going to like if you would like to see you still you continue to grow in your audience grows how how do you plan to feed them and nourish them and nurture them and I guess one thing I’ll start with this are you have you have you or will you do talk about your tattoo on your back that’s a pretty so yeah so for me I’ve always wanted or recently in the past few years I’ve wanted a back tattoo of the Goddess Isis or originally known as offset who Cleopatra he’s used to actually worship her and they say she’s the daddy of of the true Virgin Mary that the Europeans stole and called the Virgin Mary so because she three days prior to her so with that image on my back I had someone recently asked me if I think that tattoo was a healing tattoo for me I cannot even explain to you the amount of messages I’ve received from getting that tattoo that’s far from Isis I am kind of briefly but I had a dream recently where I had seen a woman with a back tattoo of Isis as well and I sent to her I said battle I love your tattoo license you have one too she starts crying and she goes oh my God I’m going to get emotional right now because you’re starting to see that I am her and I didn’t really understand what that meant but moving forward in my dream it gets really adventurous and my brother in real life was actually visiting me so he was sleeping on a mattress on the floor and on my windowsill in the dream I look up and I see a stuffed bird the bird starts moving with all this mystical music in the background and it literally slowly comes right into my mouth and goes inside of my mouth I didn’t swallow it but it was stuck in my mouth to the point where I tried waking up to get my brother’s attention I’m like trying to call out John John but I couldn’t talk and finally I woke myself up from the dream but later on I started to realize that the dream was symbolic of me really ingesting and taking Goddess Isis into my very being which I feel we all have the capacity and ability to do with any previous god or goddess and so for me with the images of my strategy is so I actually do have a big speech coming up this Saturday in the monument at Washington DC for a cancer that now it’s only a five CH however I am so honored to do this because I want to inspire people who are fighting with cancer we’re fighting with anything kind of how you said well it makes people put their Petty problems into perspective not saying cancer is anything Petty however I feel like if you have the opportunity to fight that’s a blessing so my goal and my strategy and enforce were mainly speeches that I plan to do moving forward is to be dressed as a goddess because I feel like we need to just break the trend be a rebel do something different I feel like they use the world they need something different so anything that we can do to step outside of the box I think it’s amazing and so for me it’s really tiring and creativity and and The Feminine Divine Essence of the goddess and it’s really to allow people in the crowd whether you’re a male or female to connect with that goddess or God within you because that’s just an archetype that we all possess well that’s so cool right that is so next level now this is what we need and everyone is so hooked into the Marvel Comics superheroes and that’s that’s really what the mythological deities were all about I mean to embody the the highest virtues and to the stolen with powers and if we could you know be aspiring to to hold that the vibration their costuming it’s you it’s magic it is it’s the easiest if I want to say well maybe that’s the easiest cuz it’s a lot of it is so ornate and in so much effort goes into but I guess if that’s it for the most undeniable transformative magical effects is just well I mean look at all the cartoons and even the when I all the things I bonded with He-Man and robot talking robot Car Warriors and you know it could be anything so yeah please and it’s not just cause play either even though that’s cool but if you can really be doing invocation and say yeah before the speech I did a little ritual ceremony and brought invited you know someone that looks like you’re introduced to the speaker introduce you and you introduced the guy that says he speaks well that is so exciting and it feel like you’re on to some great amazing things and do you have any other thoughts feelings device you want to share as we come to a close here and certainly shirt out of the best whiskey will get ahold of you I hope you will you don’t have a real duel links ready and all that good stuff what kind of dog is the only advice I give is piggybacking off of what you said with the the platform that we have now with social media I feel like I said it’s an opportunity for everyone to be their own celebrity in their own way and to cultivate their creativity bye-bye really unleashing a part of yourself that truly expresses your authentic self because I feel like we all can learn something from everyone and so I can easily be found on all of my social media at Vanessa’s Soul EXO and that’s for my website my Instagram my Twitter Snapchat Vanessa s o u l x o and then my YouTube page which I’m very pleased that you actually did take a liking to that then I appreciate that is under the the channel youtube.com flash you the letter u a r e art art because I do believe you are art and so that’s how you can find me on that and the title of my book which will be out soon is going to be called believe in your soul so just look out for that and I look forward to connecting with all you guys thank you so much for having me but I really appreciate it and this wonderful beautiful talk we had you in if anything that comes up anything you want to announce please let me know and we’ll certainly be covering your book when it gets when it comes out as well in the meantime anything else just let me know all right take care of you for listening 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