In this episode I’m joined by Nanu Berks for a discussion about her role as a prominent artist and cultural ambassador for the crypto-currency and blockchain movements. I discovered her great works from her deeply enlightening and empowering video from the recent Anarchopulco conference.
When she shared about her involvement in the Crypto Psychedelic conference I felt compelled to reach out and invite her to be a guest on the podcast to talk about the intersection of these diverse multi-dimensional fields of spiritual and technological development.
Her candid story of personal transformation and financial liberation through art and crypto provides a heroic dose of optimism that I believe will serve humanity very well as we all learn to navigate the new economic paradigm.
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Nanu Berks loves “connecting humans to each other in creative ways”
Originally from Argentina, she currently works as a full-time artist & crypto cultural arts ambassador in the city of Austin, traveling often for global collaborations.
Nanu has a writing background in Tech/AI/Communication, and enjoys “sharing information about the blockchain evolution through experiential art”
Ask her about Crypto Murals, and 5 senses social experiments.
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Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 140 I am totally blessed right now to be joined by nanu Berks who is the blockchain artist and crypto cultural Ambassador and I discovered her online I was watching a videos from Omar at cryptos news and he was doing interviews with Folks at the recent anarchapulco Gathering which is Libertarians liberty-minded folks anarchists of all stripes and anarcho-capitalist crypto psychedelics all kinds of folks all all there together and I wish I could have been there but it was great to see his coverage of it but then in the suggested videos right after his came up nanu Berks and she gave sort of a debrief on the experience and also got really deep in this amazing just personal insights about really what it means to be alive and it’s time of such great technological opportunity and and also I noticed that she has played a pivotal role in the recent crypto psychedelic Gathering which I was even more thrilled to know about and so I just had to ask for her to join this podcast and tell us all about this amazing work that’s happening and how she’s really been instrumental in bringing more Visual Arts and more Cultural Arts into the technology space of crypto and you know really it’s we all we all need each other so with that said Narnia thank you so much for joining me and please tell us a bit about your background how did your personal life story lead up to you play me some beautiful rolls because so far I’ve been doing a lot of behind-the-scenes work and it feels really exciting but the more I hear about people wanting to connect and understand what this movement is about the more it makes me understand that my role is growing in different ways so I guess I’ll start by saying I used to be you know I was born in Argentina and I moved to the states officially when I was 13 years old I didn’t know English and it was a really Rocky time Argentina Argentina history as far as a financial situation yeah we had the crashes of 02 and 08 in the bank so all my mother’s money like savings we had no shoes no food moving to my grandma’s house is kind of crazy and so when I started backpacking full-time I got that full-time for about 14 years on and off living out of a backpack I really hated money man I was against money I was a full-on an artist based on all the wrong definitions of what energy or energy as a means you know I was trying to live outside of a system repelling anything and everything that had a structure and it was great to find my Spiritual Awakening but it wasn’t very useful as far as bringing change 4th so I’m learning a lot and I you mentioned that a little bit on the video I’m learning a lot about how to make change from within and being a constructive interest in this system that’s so awesome yes so when I saw you speaking that video and you’re talking about the 2nd of the crypto psychedelic conference you want to talk about how that all came about in and that’s just the most exciting most thrilling combination of words ever to exist in the universe it’s been found myself as a corporate hippie corporate bridge and a lot of my friends call me that the hippie Corporate Ridge I work for Samsung and Segway and and Novartis by medical and then I worked in all these startups and in hippie you know I’ve lived a hippie lifestyle and cams for two months at a time and attend all the stuff and and when I first heard about crypto psychedelic I was intuitively very excited about it I said you know hell yeah let’s bring people from all walks of life into the same container to experience what it’s like to talk about psychedelics in a very informed the matter with people from maf’s who are incredible at meeting the government where they’re at and getting things approved and passed in a way that’s rational that we can look for funding for MDMA research for depression and PTSD and let’s also have crazy outliers you know I’m people that are making documentaries about what it’s like to experience toad medicine or Ayahuasca and let’s bring in people who are crypto Centric that have nor blockchain enthusiasm have no idea what psychedelics are and let’s bring together the artist who are already very awakens and excited about connecting with this blockchain technology as a vehicle for Change and also is bringing everybody else in the middle who feels like they want to be a part of this movement but they don’t know quite how to interact with this face and so that was my first excitement about crippled psychedelic however they had to be totally honest and I’m embarrassed about this but I think it’s important to mention when I was at I was in Miami at the North American Bitcoin conference when I was still kind of trying to figure out my role and how I was going to I have been helping planning and co-producing the the Psychedelic events from afar you know from within the internet world but I was trying to figure out exactly how it was going to get there how we were going to do all these things and the feedback that I was hearing from the very corporate and kind of Moore Square people in the blockchain space was listen if you want that should be a freestyle rap we can do that at the end so if he’s not that I was receiving was listen if you want this to be mainstream you cannot use the word psychedelic in the title like you need to brand a little bit bigger a little bit wider if you want people to take you seriously in a little bit of fear and me wanting to merge those two worlds came through until I email the core team member these amazing people from symposia and you know from the sensor net and and I said hey you know the feedback I’m hearing from people is that crippled psychedelic might not be the right brand even though I love those two words together you know and pretty much nobody answer that email because obviously I had a huge blind spot about something but that my intuition was totally aligned with the begin with and so nobody answer that we have planning the the event it was insane mind blowing and everything anyone could hope for and I think the more we do these events like anarchapulco and Crips like I like the more we realize that there’s there is a need for these Wellness seminars in mind expansion containers to be a part of the blockchain movement and I’ll just be bickering conferences or token tests or things like this and it’s even so confess that I’m going to be live painting at in San Francisco March 15th and 16th I mean they reached out to me I don’t really know how how they heard about me but the word is getting out where they say okay yeah we have these amazing speakers and conferences and let’s talk about tokens and money and Fiat currencies but how do we bring mine expansion and interactive interesting feelings into this as well and so I just wanted to mention that because it was so funny how I thought for a minute there we had to change the whole branding off Edwin really that’s that’s exactly it you know that’s the challenges explain to people that psychedelics is not a bad word and that it has there is room for for that word in the blockchain space and in the research movement and in the mainstream media and that we need to heal whatever trauma and resistance we have to the plant medicine world do you know exactly yeah well I think most people now know that the founders of most of the internet and computer technology we take for granted now we’re all outspoken acid heads and you know in that during that time and really that’s it’s and it’s such a beautiful and important Legacy and history to reclaim so yeah I’m proud of y’all for representing you know what the p word and and I honestly when I when I first saw that those words and I’m very deep in the you know what my own personal shamonica transformational journey and I’m a big fan of maps and all of that good work and consider myself to be a kind of outline Rogue you know researcher that contributes how I can but but the real huge massive wealth transfer is happening into the hands of mostly a well don’t know if it’s mostly but there is a lot of young fresh Talent from the millennial coding sort of computer science geek world that are just literally sitting on tens of hundreds of millions of dollars in and they’re just instant Angel Investors in a rolling funds and capital back into more projects and I would just love to see there be a really dedicated group of people who are who are really not soliciting those people but creating inviting those people into the arms of Mama Aya and into the you know these the ceremonial containers that are helping to create nonviolent communication and create Foster more of a of a synergistic collaborative environment because you pretty are you pretty well-versed in just the whole very spiritually kind of disastrous history of the Bitcoin block size debate and how that just is totally splintered and derailed so much momentum in that yeah the massive amounts of energy that it takes to mine Bitcoin even though that you know the amount of banks in the amount of energy to other Banks take is much larger and so it’s all connected and there is of course when people come to me unless they will Bitcoin is not the solution and who do you think started this we don’t even know who Satoshi is and of course you know I have these concerns as well and there’s good and evil in every part of a movement however we cannot ignore how tremendous I like how incredible this this piece of technology could be or is 4 hour change us here in humidity in in evolution of the healing of the planet and so it’s of course is going to have light and dark in on everything does and I have a few things in mind from what you just said one my own psychedelic Journey has been really really feeling and I call myself the microdosing Ambassador because I hear all these people talking about macro Doses and I have drink Ayahuasca in a couple occasions and it has been very very healing for me but at the same time or end the same time I have found the most healing for my depression with micro doses of psilocybin and that has been better than anything else I have tried and I have learned how to do it on my own and a very ritualistic in a responsible way and so I have a message but I guess I’m being I feel like I’m being called to speak this for a lot of people that might be a little resistant and I know your audience is probably very inclusive and accepting but if you are a person out there who may be feels threatened or scared or not completely sold on these microdosis it’s totally okay and just as beautiful to try to dip your toes wherever you feel comfortable and just experienced having the plant Spirit within you and just trying a microdose of something and then seeing what that does for you whether it’s even you know passion flower tea that is relaxing for you or is CBD oil or anything any anything in the plant spectrum that could heal you in some way you know because I think that’s that’s the missing information out there we were too but putting these documentaries out and and Everybody’s Talkin about Ayahuasca and I both of which are so powerful and beautiful but there’s also so many little ways to get introduced to this and Amor ya in a more compassionate and in Safeway to Safeway to yourself you know if you don’t want to jump right into the deep end like there’s no right or wrong you know when it comes to trying this thing that’s a great point I could see a parallel also with just getting into crypto you know they say you know only only invest 10% of your savings and you know start small and and really get to know the technology before you take huge risks with this or another. So do you want to talk about for the people who may have heard about the conference or maybe just hearing about it now the crypto psychedelic conference could you kind of give us a recap or yeah just what are we missing what what can we look forward to I am hoping that it’s planning to be an ongoing thing conference started as this kind of joke or a play on words with Matt mckibbin he wanted to celebrate his 1 billionth second on Earth and his birthday and it’s a little ball thing you know there’s a lot of pieces of information that I don’t have people that connected with people and then eventually Woodside it’s a really throw a big party and then it was a celebration and then was a conference and then we had speakers and then we connected at two different houses in raising awareness for maps and I’ve been wanting to collaborate person live with maps seriously for the last five years I can find trying to find a way into just collaborate with them somehow and it’s been so beautiful being able to make art for them to do auction and fundraise in Austin and into the room and just going to think to them at a personal level and see beyond the white papers in the research and everything that is online meeting these humans that are real level and so it was beautiful to have a space where we’re all of these scientists and enthusiasts and experimenter came together with the crypto world and trying to make connections to fund these different fathers because as you said the the fact that we have so many new avenues of energy in the form of a monetary New York coin or crypto warm where we can support and sustain different projects and in the fact that all of his wealth is in the hands of people that are very open-minded it is so so beautiful and it cannot be taken for granted and so there’s a lot of different pools from from one side and the other you know I think there’s so many parallel sides you said we would psychedelics and with the blockchain onboarding from the micro investing in micro investing to the micro and macro those to the eagle really being tested because once you start getting traction and fame and recognition in money and or Fiero currency orb of power and wealth in any of these ways the eagle resurfaces you know and it says Hey I want to be hurt or I have you said yes or I am valued in this and I noticed it on my own without the very very insignificant level so I can’t even imagine the people that I’m not being in the spotlight you know in front of millions of people and so I feel like I have the awareness at least you to kind of monitor that and hopefully I have enough good people in my life that I always ask please call me out when I lose track you know when I catch the ego and I lose track of what I’m doing and what’s important but I do think there’s quite a few parallels and so all these topics came up in conversation when we were at Christmas I could I like we had a a couple panel discussions about what Maps is doing how they’re integrating into the government and you know getting things past and so much about the effort tremendous effort that they’re putting into into aligning with with the with the government in a way that makes sense to get these plant medicines approved and then getting being short on budget you know doing 10 years of research and policy and all this stuff and then not enable to clear it because of a lack of funds so that is insane that there’s so many people behind this movement that it’s proven again and again how much like medicine can help us fight depression in or solving no deal with drama and then that they would not be able to pull the last year because of a lack of funds when abundance is so so available to us you know so it was beautiful to see that and to hear the the antagonist perspectives as well there was different couple panels that were edgy to say the least and they were a few discussions you know people be completely opposing views and it was beautifully handled everybody listen to each other and and and then those those little bursts of energy in conversation provided the platform that must be it for other people to have their own discussions in beautiful Paradise by also being conscious of wealth and the lack of their off for the local community it was just it was such a such a container for 4 a.m. lightening conversations of all sorts and to give light to the ignorance that we all carry as well you know yeah well it sounds so beautiful and amazing and I’m seeing another kind of weaving together of these it’s I’m seeing is double helix between the equipment because there’s there’s often sort of interesting kind of false dichotomy of the shamanic path way of making you sick or making plant medicine is more available and accessible through the like a religious framework or just a screw the man we’re going to do whatever we got to do to heal herself and there’s the the more official and regulated secondary research end of things and really everybody is sort of him somewhere between and kind of it helps to find that this Common Grounds and I still hate to see the same thing between the hyper crypto anarchists cypherpunk strands within the crypto movement and those who were pushing for regulation for Mass adoption and so that’s another interesting interesting yeah absolutely and I’m a big fan of of saying you know we need everybody everybody on the Spectrum and for some reason it’s been pointed out to me that I’m good at connecting with 80% in the middle you know there’s there’s a hyper technical people all the way at the end of the spectrum there’s the early adopters which in a way I’m a part of it as well and then there’s this yeah the massive amounts of people in the middle of that are Cheerios or mad or angry or confused and how do we bring everybody together and so it’s so important that it ended up medicine world and within the Crypt the world and in all of these massive Evolution waves we have everybody acting on it and so there is enough room for everybody who feels like making videos are creating content to interview people to put content out there there’s enough room for everybody to be at these different conferences there’s so many little ones spreading out biting everywhere so it it’s it’s kind of weird because being inside of this movement so many times I feel like the market is oversaturated for what I want to do and then I forget right that it that we are pioneering this this thing and so it’s it’s a back-and-forth elastic you know dance constantly off of self-worth and looking at yourself as a person and your own Evolution and then connecting it to too large to what really matters you know so it’s it’s been so mind-blowing I’ve never I guess after anarchapulco that’s when I really realized what crypto psychedelic was the first wave when I came back to Austin and I read the sign the logo that our friend Jake designs for crypto psychedelic is a I don’t know if you saw it on the website is like this mushroom that has a circuit board kind of got it tattooed because to me that whole experience Mark the beginning of the rest of my life and I know it sounds so crazy but it was just one of those conferences When Everything feels right and Everything feels like we’re standing on the edge of something so massive and then going to another computer right after that connected all the rest of the engine dogs to me how much this crypto blockchain movement is the seventies Evolution movement and is everything that we’ve been fighting since the beginning you know it’s just freedom and is decentralization of power and is compassionate love and acceptance isn’t it’s all the same thing yes LOL awesome so now you’re you’re do you want to talk about your your creative Works to art that you do and Me Rollin and whatnot is his very interesting exciting to me I would love to understand more about what we really are playing in that in those respects on the street making music painting and I was a lot more egotistical than I am now a lot more naive in a lot less compassionate and you know I was growing I was 18 when I was in the thick of it at backing and I can’t believe the crazy stuff that I was doing back then just walking up to people and saying you need a miracle here I’m going to paint a I want you and just how with my mind I could make so many things happen with my heart as well but it was very mind driven and now I’m starting to realize how I can do the same things just leaving from my heart center you know and having it connected to send so many things that are bigger than myself and so I did that for a long time backpacking and then I went High corporate and working in all these corporations learn about PR and branding and for the last year-and-a-half before before this year so last year I basically you work as an independent consultant for small Brands and startups in big Brands and technology for rebranding their whole the whole strategies basically you know and then here I am doing the same exact thing that I was doing when I was a free spirit anarchists living Barefoot traveling the world and so it’s really funny and satisfying see it. Oh we’re now I’m here making music and painting mirror but now is so much more aligned and with more resources and energy directed in a way that is that is just more useful for everybody so I hope to continue learning and I feel very thankful to be in connection with the people that you know that I have been meeting the whole crypto art murals is for me away to be known as a writer at hard and the writer as a trade putting out content in a written way is really useful but it doesn’t reach everybody if you don’t have internet and you don’t know how to read you’re not going to get this information and so painting a mural in a community where the Arts is available to everybody and you can just stand in front of it and be curious feel sad feel happy feel whatever it is and ignite your curiosity for your own research that is insanely powerful and I know that because I have cried in front of murals I have taken pictures in front of murals at that made me realize something about myself and that is one aspect right of the that the massive big scale Arts that can that can provide a message for an entire community and then the other half is supporting these artists you know myself and then everybody else who I see struggling so much to do what they love and they’re so good at it and and disciplined enough wealth in the right hands is an opportunity for us to fill up every single block of the chain you note for the artist to paint if that’s what they want to do the visual artist want a fan or the artist want to make music or the artist who wants you to create experiences that are interactive and then for the people who are good at managing and just love discovering and helping and connecting to do just that and do not have to do all the other things and for the web developers to develop their websites and it’s just he just amongst my own friends and connections here how much energy and time we’re wasting by not working together and so the more people I meet in the blockchain crypto or are crypto blockchain connection space the more I want to all of us to do our shows in crypto shows together because it makes no sense for everybody to be spending their energy resources in in building a website if you hate building a website you know like if you want to paint just paint and then we’ll find people to build a website for you and and I encountered a lot of people fear based in this space who are all about competition and want to do and they don’t want anything to do with other brands and then I encourage I mean I’ve encountered so many more people on the collaborative side and that’s where an archipelago that’s where it what I felt that are not a couple, but I felt like I like people were down to connect and they said yes to all the projects and let’s get on a phone call and it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from if you want to help and it aligns let’s do it you know and that is really refreshing and I think that’s the way the Psychedelic or open-minded or meditation more expensive way of looking at this movement awesome God you want to talk more about just practicing meditation and what sort of how your your spiritual processes and maybe tips you have for people who are coming into here wanting to participate in this technology space and an actually starting to you know they say the first time you start to have some actual games in your cryptocurrency portfolio than I can say from experience I just want to give my life to the movement because it’s changed my life so much and I want to just be in service but I’m not a coder and I’m not really I’m kind of a wannabe geek so imagine making this cultural Ambassador you know doing that like if we were talking about him in franchising people you have said yes to Justin tips about what it’s like to be adapting to this new I mean you’re providing a platform for people to express themselves and you’re finding people like me who you know I’m nobody in this world and at the same time I very I feel like I’m a very important piece of the puzzle and I haven’t always felt that way my own SoCal you wasn’t where it’s at and I you know I need the others and you need the others and so you already doing so much and I really appreciate you reaching out and wanting to give a voice to people like me who maybe you’re not on the you know I feel like I’m behind the scenes a lot and now you can’t necessarily reach out to to you know I don’t know bigger a larger what it’s called platforms and say Authority terribly I need to speak on this or be on a panel specifically and yet at the same time so many opportunities like this have presented themselves to me like being on humans of Bitcoin or the libertarian Radio free talk live or your show and so many others and so it’s it’s such a beautiful synchronous synchronicity how we all find each other and I’m being hard open to supporting each other and that’s what it’s all about so to me when people ask me what is a blockchain artist what makes you a crypto artist or what how can I get involved in this way if I don’t have any coding skills or if I don’t have any if I don’t feel like a nerd at hard or any or if I don’t have any connection the truth is that most of the people that are even curious about this movement or that believe in Freedom are already a part of this movement you know what I mean and it’s just lack of Education or lack of information and lack of system or container though it’s being created right now and so anything that you care about and if you respect freedom and the evolution of humankind through compassion and love that is blockchain with me and I know it sounds really extreme for some people but it’s really is I mean if your yoga teacher you can download and secure whatever wallet of your choice I love Edge they you know they just upgraded to their shape-shifting converting application which I didn’t have before and I just downloaded it and it’s my favorite wallets I always recommend that you use in a hot while they’re on your phone you can just download something like that in three seconds and all of a sudden your yoga teacher who takes crypto you know what I mean it in Seoul I’m in this is what I do at my my events like that we have the exist festival.com for South by Southwest and is not an official South by event is a disruptive one because even though I love songs by and I painted a giant mural for South by that’s going to be showing at the Expo Center for Austin Rodeo I love what they’re doing so many ways they’ve also turn down quite a few female speakers for the blockchain panel and I don’t know enough about what they’re doing and I’m sure there’s reasons why everybody dusted the things I do but I think it’s important to set up other events are outside of the you know of the gates of South by in the rules and so on so that’s what we do at our events you know we set up a men’s where where we can bring in a bunch of artists who have never heard of a crypto before or who are interested in it and teach him how to download a wallet and then make their sales are there vending whatever they’re running t-shirts and arts and whatever in crypto in there you got like that’s all it takes so when I get on an Uber or Lyft or Rideshare I asked them if they take crypto and they look at me like I’m crazy then I showed them how to download the wallet and then I took them in crypto and when I go to any any local shop or any restaurant I just automatically always ask do you take pepto and they just look at me confused and then they ask and then I tell them and so it’s just word of mouth and that’s it very small way in which and how we can educate each other just ask about it as if it’s part of your normal life because to me and to you it is you know and so the more people we have on the system to better that easier we’re all going to to evolve within this I don’t know if the answer is exactly the question who want to just be ya be a part of the movement and and adapt and actually alter reality one day at a time just with whatever means you have you know yeah that’s exciting is that you know I’ve had I’ve had a similar kind of weather journey of just wanting to onboard friends and just get people excited about it and really the best way to do it is just to get them started with some in just a few or I’m going to split the mule and give you your you know percentage of Crypt or whatever and and that just gets that gets the party started for for anybody and I see why you’re talking I was imagining they’re being a i y bet there’s got to be some art galleries in the world that just give what is QR codes on every piece so in case you don’t want to buy it you can just tip the artist while you’re there be a white of all the art that I’m so like thrilled to behold in my eyes when I go to an art gallery I would go in there with a budget to tip all the all the artist that I thought really blew my mind you know that’s a whole number and thank you for saying that because I seriously have been wanting to make a video on this for so long thank you for reminding me I want I want all the spray paint artist mural is due to get a QR code stencil and so many times that I’ve been moved by a mural and I yeah you can buy it and you can buy a piece by the artist I’m just freaking said man like $1 a hundred people $1 and then you go home and the artist girl out in the world like how insanely amazing about education if nobody told me that I could do better if I wasn’t a part of this movement I would not have either. So yes I think every Gallery should have a key or code next to their pieces for sure and hopefully work making it easier and easier to have these things be more accessible and just like you said you know split a meal and pay in in crypto just like you would do with venmo or PayPal is very easy and another thing that I think is important to mention is that at first when Bitcoin came out in the early adopters now that Bitcoin was more like a Welsh holding system and still now you know it’s people assume that that you have to have a lot of money to get into crypto but I love the people at and dash dash people talked about this a lot and then cash and Litecoin you don’t fast transaction this is a system that I believe in I’m so tired of using Banks and I’m so tired of using Fiat I don’t want it anymore so I don’t actually hold its on a crypto I’m not at a point where my Abundant Life reflects in my in my wallet but I do get to use crypto every day to do my everyday things and every time a little more and so even if you just want to download a wallet and put 10 bucks into either or 10 bucks into like going or Dash or whatever your favorite currency is just put it there and do nothing with it and check it again in a month and see what happens or just how about you don’t have something like $100 and whenever you go do something if they take crypto you can transfer that and just start really small it’s it’s such a mountain of information that I can be very overwhelming I sign up for a steaming a couple a couple weeks ago and I’ve heard about steemit for for those of you who don’t know it’s a platform like it has all these different channels you can blog writing you can put up videos it’s basically a decent realized turn off all the social media that we use today so right now if you comment on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter or Instagram you don’t get paid for your value and reviewing people’s content but on steemit you basically get rewarded for being an active member of the community you get paid for voting for curating and you can receive a lot of steam power and crypto money basically for producing good content that is useful to people and it cannot be tamed innocence other than by the users and the population and so it’s a really amazing system in everyone’s use it for a long time but I was kind of intimidating by it finally I made an account into two and a half weeks to clear which is insane and and I’ve been getting super overwhelmed with learning how to use it and I just try to continue to watch one video day and do little things at a time and in no time I’ll be an expert you know that’s all it takes so just I hope that people don’t get over Round And if you’re curious just continue learning just a little bit at a time you don’t have to be an expert overnight exactly. I’m glad yes team is amazing and probably going to totally crush it on there just is it doing writing published his stuff it’s been specially in the crypto space is people that it’s amazing some of the mounts you can get off of that and it shows you how big data is really extracting so much value from users of platforms and it’s it’s it’s not going to be long before just because it’s free means that you just give them all your data and sign away the property rights and all that stuff is is going to be replaced by this micropayment ecosystems where people can support each other you know value in the content that they consume and and being really well well supported in and I think it’s going to do the asking to do a lot of amazing some of her friends yesterday we were talking about all them you know thousands of jobs disappearing as robots take over and Singularity and all the stuff and at some point in my life I was really concerned about this you know yet where are aliens off drivers truck drivers going to go when we have also if driving cars do you know all the stuff but the answer is blanching all these people will be doing things in blockchain I will be getting paid well for it and it’ll take less time and I mean from the Tim Ferriss 4-Hour Work Week on and everything. Having high developments off technology and be more efficient with our time does not mean that we is not does not need to be scary you know there’s a lot of stuff within fast Evolution that is that is concerning to me specially how fast were developing and growing and how our security initiatives are not all the party yet and I think we’re getting there so there’s a lot of concern of course but anyting however I don’t think that we all really grasp or we’re starting to now how how much we really don’t have to work 90 hours a week or whatever the ridiculous things we do you know that the whole point of this is that micro payments and micro contributions from everybody involved will react what time for us to to be humans to exist to just let me know this is such an interesting new development in the sort of f have that imprint of a techno dystopia since childhood from all the Sci-Fi and I watched it and then you know you imagine this world where humans are made up sleep by robotic technology and Ai and I’ve been pretty sure that those prospects especially now is drones of coming to the picture and now I really feel like it as of this moment this kind of is really the undeniable presence in the now of both of those dystopic seems coming coming nauseous to come to life but coming into existence but then as you’re saying which is actually so Redemptive for sheep the human soul is that like she was an example something might you might have some thoughts on as far as empowerment but it’s like the the sort of this myth of the scarcity of worthwhile productive labor that can be done with from picking up trash to planting trees to cleaning up toxic waste like through the blockchain micropayments and sort of micro temporary employment contracts that can really enfranchise all the homeless people to get a micro crypto payment without actually showing up and waiting in line to get in the welfare program or get into a you know some sort of job placement program you can just be like you know you show up on the there’s some spill like a whip there’s some kind of cleanup has to happen and people can just mop it and and have day labor crypto payments and there will really never be a gap between meaningful work and and fair pay and there’s plenty of wealth in the crypto world alone to finance stuff like that and even if you know whether it’s through a nonprofit system or through taxes done I mean I’m not going to endorse taxes in general but but you kind of know what I’m saying so how do you feel about that you feel like that’s the direction we’re going to go and there are so many projects that have mind-blowing for example the green miners are looking into mining basically with all green energy from turning trash into clean energy so that things like Bitcoin mining don’t have to take resources as we know them now and there are so many projects in the space for cleaning up the oceans and cleaning up the air and I’m bringing food to the right places and replanting trees and replenishing the soil I mean there if you think of any good initiatives going on in the world for every single one of them there is at least one crypto person who is trying to intercept and connect and there are some barriers you know like the the extreme hippies and I don’t mean that in any negative or positive connotation specifically just outside another word to use like the Crypt on earth and the cryptic Crypt of hippies and all these people like hippies like me back in the day when I when I was in Turkish hippie confused and all of this integrating technology and really scared of it I never imagined in my life that I would be here talking about technology I like but at the same time I see like you said you know how directly this has impacted my life I live a better life I can eat better food because I have my bills taken care of more often because I am connecting projects that feed my soul in that feed my pocket and and it’s just it’s just acknowledge he’s not going anywhere so yes hearing drones zooming around in the air concerns me especially there’s no privacy laws about this and I’m sure I am in plenty of videos just public random videos of people have of course all that is concerning to me but at the same time if I can get drones to massively plant trees and water them creating on cleaning water and stain of away and replenishing the Salt Lake of course I want that also so it’s a fine balance you knowing yeah there’s just there’s just so many opportunities and I’m a very hopeful first person you know and Technologies not going anywhere in the craziest disasters are going on in the world are very real and I’m very aware of my privilege and I’m honored for just being able to be a voice and a part of this movement in any way but if you are truly concerned if you’re a person sitting there and you are really really against technology my best advice to you is to get involved you know what I mean just get involved and make sure that our our moral compasses are still true and that our time is being used efficiently because while I think it’s piercing experiencing abundance is a really healing thing for our communities that happen monkey trained into scar City and fear so I think that having lavish parties in exotic places when they are led by the right Compass when we’re doing no trash Left Behind when we’re also feeding and in helping those communities those are beautiful experiences I think also it’s very easy to fall into the you know greedy egotistical side of things and so we can be people on the sidelines criticizing this movement or we can just Dive Dive Right In whichever way feels comfortable to you and try to help from within you know absolutely yeah amazing so do you want to take can you talk a bit about you know obviously not to be tokenizing but I was really thrilled to know that Amanda B Johnson is the spokes person for Dash and they have a sort of a in the dash consensus system they’re they’re holding their whole their whole technological platform on the basis of it there’s money allocated in there sitting there a crypto economic ecosystems to support people in in roles as delegates and Advocates and Educators and I’m I’m wondering if you have some thoughts on connecting with or have you connected with women in crypto and just having more solidarity and more initiatives that are women lead and women find it and having the the voice and the the wisdom of Sisterhood in the crypto space which is is seriously it’s I don’t know I wouldn’t say this that I understand to be hyper sexist or it’s just a typically gender imbalance in technology for various reasons of course and but this is one of the most inviting and open-minded for thinking space is so I’m just curious if you have thoughts understand that aspect I do and I just want to throw in really quickly that Dash is doing some incredible incredible things to use this new currency in the everyday lives of people and changing a lot I mean I spoke with Danny the other day from the Crypt of showing radio station and just some of the projects he shared with me that they’re doing going to orphanage orphanage is camping outside open and to defend that old homes and rebuilding after after earthquakes all of these weren’t the weather doing in Mexico and helping people from the US and for Mexico to send each other Dash instead of Fiat you know making it super useful super accessible for them and actually turning crypto into into resources are they need whether it’s a new fan for their ceiling or food or whatever and so they are doing a lot of work right on the ground and putting you know when ATMs in crypto ATM there just it is amazing to see this dystopian Society for good and bad is already here as completely I mean crypto is already being used in so many daily activities all the time so much more that we know and I know that documentaries are being created and they will be available to all of us soon and every time more but there is so much more happening than we even inside are aware of you know every time I talk with anybody is it blows my mind all the projects are going on in and that this is the Hood part of it is another one and there are all these telegram groups going around some of them are called crypto women badass women in blockchain you know he’s different name there’s this group on Facebook called crypto queens and I have found some amazing amazing humans are working with the UN and women investing in women and funding each other’s projects and the Miami Conference the North America Miami Conference Bitcoin conference I had this one person run up to me this woman and she said hi sister if you’re a woman here I pretty much want to connect with you and she added me to his telegram group and I stole that from her in the best possible way so every time I’m at any blockchain event I run up to the women and I said Hey sister if you’re a woman in the space I want to connect with you and it’s just so beautiful and so I may be 5 or 10 different groups that are all women in blockchain and art projects in blockchain it is it is really unbelievable I’m actually really excited for the South by Southwest there is a bunch of the crypto Queens are coming down we’ve been talking about doing a documentary about women in crypto and I just hope that I get to interview them 10 minutes with each one in super supportive so it’s been quite interesting and of course there is still competition with in here and there but for the most part I find that women are really supportive of each other I also have been working with swarm City and the storm funds quite a bit I meant Joel from Joel Dietz from swarm and we talked about a bunch our projects and all the stuff happening and you express a lot of interest in supporting both blockchain art projects and women equality so I know swarm is now sitting around the survey to try to make sure that there are as many women as men users and their platform that’s really exciting and also so many surveys about how they want the tokens to be used and so on are hungry to include the community that’s what’s Tim Meadows all about right and that’s what these events are all about so I think I think we’re doing pretty good so far and I see how much more collaboration is going to is going to start happening you know just from from these telegram groups and how excited everybody is and and also how cool is that that we have telegram instead all our messages so that the government can hover information are private conversations it’s just it’s amazing we weave I feel sad about the fact that Facebook and all these social media platform orny or Cuban connection you know I honestly have so many thoughts where I say I don’t care if Facebook knows all my information or if they own all my media I just want to be able to share photos of my friends in Argentina and this is the easiest form so how sad is it that we were okay with all of our privacy and information being exploited and people making money off of us just because we’re so starved for human connection so I’m really excited to be able to do the same things we’ve been doing and use the good parts of Technology like social media in a way that it also filled up our pockets and our Spirits you know that is music to my ears thank you so much I’m so glad that I I mean I just just the fact that your video came up right after cryptos news and we’re in this moment have his conversation this is all such beautiful music to my ears and yeah it’s been I mean in my field in the world of Tantra sacred sexuality sexual healing in just the I think the most important thing in my studies in my experience for healing a planet and really saving the Earth is really being instrumental and being conducive to two women Sisterhood and a healthy positive empowering way and actually creating more financial Independence so that women as mothers can have more freedom and power and actual means to make more independent decisions with their bodies with their with their you know how they how much even breastfeeding I mean the most people don’t know that it’s pretty much understood that about 5 years is a typical pre-industrial young length of time to be breastfeeding infants on demand and imagine the kind of infrastructure changes that have to happen for that to be possible in the modern world but if anything’s going to make it happen it’s going to be the fruit of the work that people like you were doing and that’s as you know might just sort of Public Service Announcement about you know a sort of futuristic crypto feminism you know that I said that I want to contribute to I want to see happen is this more and more working together and in collaboration So yeah thank you for helping with that and Centric energy and learning some teachings of something that it’s pretty recent to me maybe two years and there’s so much to learn and I found so much healing and in all of these intersections of psychedelics meditation 10 trick work and crypto and it’s it’s so bizarre and no way to talk about technology and evolution and money in the same line that we talked about psychedelics and in self-healing love and all of this to no life force of energy but it is all the same thing it’s it’s just growing us a more compassionate and accepting loving human race you know that’s what it’s all about and at the same time that I’m really excited about all of these blockchain as a vehicle for 4 change I am really concerned about Wi-Fi and radiation and you know of course all of these a chemtrail crazy stuff that we put ourselves through so I’m putting out the intention into calling for more people to get involved in to figure it out other ways to connect the other internet in a way that it’s not so destructive for us and so there’s not some natural solutions and then there’s simple things we can do like turning off wi-fi at night when you go to sleep and self-education on this on this topic but I would love to hear more like I said Solutions and privacy are are something that we are now noticing that we need to work on more at the same time that we develop all these amazing systems right we need to wear we’re kind of like it’s floating and all this magical ways and now we need to start creating the containers that will keep us a lines into our missions as well yeah absolutely absolutely awesome well yeah I’m getting about 2 or if you’ll just totally mind blown and totally satiated by learning all this stuff all this great stuff that you’re doing do you feel free now to take some time to promote your efforts and talk about we have coming up in the future will people can be looking out for and and yeah we’ll we’ll call it a good introduction to hopefully we can also keep in touch on going up next and that is the exist festival.com that it’s a beautiful project where we are just connecting more and more people doing similar events and hoping that we can continue to collaborate so if anybody’s interested in anything that we’re doing please reach out there’s room for you to be fully creative in your own way and like I said it’s not about competition the abundance is there and in so many ways so that is South by Southwest Austin and then we have token Fest in San Francisco I will be there as well and then we have an art party in the bay somewhere so all this information will be on social media that is at my new brakes on Twitter or breaks on Instagram and I wanted to mention. So I most recently connected with gel polish and he’s doing art for addicts and he has a lot of projects going on in that world so I’m really excited to get more involved in healing the process of healing ourselves through ART and handling addiction because I believe technology is also an addiction right so being able to create those containers again and also few initiatives for the cleaning up the oceans and ocean token and just so many good projects coming up so anyway that I can that I can help or help you connect with those who will get you to where you want to be the green miners we clean energy any of that please reach out to me I would love to help out cool thank you again so much now Newburgh city has been such a pleasure and yet again thank you for just allowing me to be impulsive and send a message out to you and get you on the show and to know also that your ear integrating some the tantric wisdom in and works into your life it’s so exciting and I agree this is all just one big Kundalini blockchain Bliss Bellini black seamless hashtag that will be in touch in the future and thank you again so much sounds good thank you so much have a beautiful night. 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