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Creating Images that Reveal the Inner Goddess with Robert Domondon TPP169

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In this podcast I’m joined by the highly esteemed and accomplished photographer and artistic image creator Robert Domondon. I discovered his breath-taking work on Instagram and feel that he is producing some of the most honorable and lovable imagery of women who are expressing their inner goddess. We learn all about the very intentional and sacred manner and methodology that he’s developed. He shares deep and profound insights about his business practices and artistic vision that can be applied to any profession and lifestyle. It was truly a gift to connect with him in this way and I’m hoping we’ll be collaborating some day.

About Robert:

Robert Elvin Domondon is a visual artist on stories of women’s empowerment, positive body image, and the divine feminine themes. He does photography and video on Boudoir, Fine Art Nudes, Dance, and Goddess Portraits. He is a retired physician from Asia, and does ICU Nursing a few nights a week. A healer of more than 30 years. He loves hiking, he is a practitioner of meditation and Tantric touch. His name means “brightly famous for being a noble friend.” He lives in San Francisco, CA.

Artist Statement:

“I believe that imagery is powerful….
and that honoring our bodies, emotions, choices & feelingsthrough photography— whether in front of or behind the camera —is sublimely empowering.

“I’m on a mission to empower every woman to take care and adore their bodies, reclaim their femininity, and inspire an inner beauty that lasts.

“I start each photoshoot with a prayer: I declare my intentions to the universe that we produce imagery that will inspire women to find their inner goddess and dancer. May it be so.

“I seek that each encounter be transformative and life-healing. To Live Lovelier Longer

Contact information:
Instagram.com/RobertDomondon
Email: Robert [at] Domondon [dot]us

Topics we discuss include:

  • how he brings out the inner ideals of women
  • female empowerment
  • healing
  • positive self image
  • beauty
  • sacred sexuality
  • his clients include dancers, fashionistas, people who love to portray themselves as goddesses
  • the need to increase our tribe
  • making a better world by celebrating womens’ gifts
  • supporting the feminine in order that we can we males can be whole as well, as well as society
  • how images are powerful
  • honoring our bodies through photography
  • sublime empowerment
  • how he uses media to provide his service to the community
  • how he started with small camera when he was young
  • the influence of Amercian Photographer magazine
  • how his mother was his first impression of the goddess
  • she reminds him ofbeauty, love, motherhood, fertility
  • he also studies the mythology of the role of the divine feminine in conflict, war,
  • creation and death
  • how they rise above all that
  • what got him into the honoring vibe is how he saw his mother rise above
  • she had serious problems with his dad, his dad left, she was a single mother of 3, she
  • had problems of finance and even got cancer
  • but was able to rise above all that, she’s a survivor
  • to him that’s what a goddess is, someone who rises above and shows the inner beauty of love
  • how everyone can be a goddess
  • some of his clients are performers in public eye who come for good portiolio shots
    but most clients are not models, they’re soccer moms, professionals, curvy gals, 50+, cancer survivors
  • how his work helps to create an alternative to harmful depictions of women,
  • how to ethically navigate the modeling/photo industry
  • how he draws upon the energy of goddess archetypes such as the innocent maiden, the virgin, to present innocense, natural and inquisitive attitudes
  • as well as the nurturing mother, he sees men hurting and sees women hurting, he takes them on and and i take them on and and helps them address their pain through imagery
  • he draws upon the warrior, up on the battle front, up on the battle field, or tackling problems and overcoming challenges
  • he also draws upon the wise old women, they give not only information but the wisdom of what to do with it
  • he applies the wisdom in navigating the industry some of the harmful effects of objectifying women, of porn, going after the lower parts of our existance, the lower parts of our levels of operating
  • how he tries to show there’s a better way
  • exploring and respecting boundaries around nudity
  • for some women nudity is felt to be very personal
  • for some its an expression of freedom
  • he respects both, it’s a fine line he always has to walk
  • he used to have a brand, then threw that all away
  • now he tries to learn more of the person, their inner joys, inner struggles, inner pains, what have they gone through, what inside of them is beautiful
  • how he hopes that the pictures he takes will be deeply connected with by the model
  • his goal is to open up so divine energy can flow
  • he has his own values that he holds true to
  • the before and after energetically
  • the experience of goddess worship on set
  • before clicking first shot, he creates a container saying what his intentions are, he declare his intentions to them and to the universe
  • he offers this as a prayer and sets the tone of the meditative sphere that he’s going to operate in during a shoot
  • he declares his intentions to create imagery to inspare women to find their inner goddess, their true self, their inner beauty
  • how this process already unravels a lot of the things that comes into a shoot
  • the interaction is now like worship, it’s like a dance
  • that’s how he opens up, how he creates the shoot for each person
  • how he helps women find themselves through the beauty of shadow work
  • he’ll ask them where they see themselves 5 years from now
  • he’ll ask ask what is the mission and purpose of the image
  • is it to excite, to attract, to provide healing, to mirror pain, to mirror darkness?
  • you have to deal with intention and motivation first
  • he can shoot anywhere
  • he’ll just put up a white background so he can photoshop the background
  • but it’s best if he can shoot them where they are, in nature preferably
  • finding a context of their true lives
  • it could a forest, it could be the sea
  • as far as software, he uses photoshop, and light room mostly
  • all with the intention of serving the story, the story is number one
  • what’s the story that she wants to tell, what’s the story that they want to tell
  • the story supercedes everything else
  • being accomodating and adaptive and flexible in unexpected situations
  • he embraces sirendipity and happy accidents
  • he likes to follow the white rabit where ever it leads and go with the flow
  • it’s less stress and frustrating that way
  • how he helps clients work within their budget, while suggesting what to invest in more to enhance the shoot
  • he advises that models carefully consider the terms of their model release form and be sure to write or type in uses that they prohibit such as for stock photography or drug companies
  • he advises photographers to be aware of the issue of models not liking the final product
  • the role of vulnerabilities and insecurities, that get amplied and exagerated all over the internet, with almost no way to prevent pirated use
  • a balanced approach to professionalism
  • custom agreements vs cookie cutter templates
  • good templates for model releases from Professional Photographers of America
  • the need to educate your client
  • he advises clients with a brand to protect, and who are in the public eye to form a focus group of 3 people, not their friends but 3 people that represent their target market, get three reps and let them look at your pictures, ask them which ones appeal to them how alot of performers/celebrities pick pictures that don’t relate or connect with their audience, how you have to let them choose the ones the audience will chose are often more authentic, not the photoshop, contrived pictures
  • how he’s thrown out his ideals of what beauty is, he lets his audience show him
  • the challenge of the celebrity instagramer is how to be relevant, how to connect
  • he recommends to stop being contrived, be real, be authentic, stand for something, and let the audience choose what they connect with
  • to open minds to real success and beauty
  • I share the story of the founder of patreon, who advocates creating more and more content because you don’t know which will be the hit, which will song or piece of art will connect
  • he feels that you’re not producing just for yourself, you’re producing for your tribe
  • his clients remember the feeling he gave you, it’s the emotion that was aroused
  • I share how I feel the ethics of representing the divine feminine in art, involve a high level of duty of care for the soul
  • I ask about the economics of photography entreprenueralism
  • he says that everyone now is a photographer with the new phones and new apps, everyone’s a graphic designer/photographer
  • he believes that to stand out you have to stand for something
  • you have ot recognize the waves that are coming because they’re different for every generation
  • he advises not to quit your day job as an artist
  • you should have a coffee shop job
  • every artist has ask themselves, how do you really want to work, what do you really want to do, and find a way to do it
  • at the end of the day, your work must not rob your soul
  • there should be a balance of what brings food on your table and a roof over head, and also what feeds your soul
  • he had to create the market, he recommends creating the market that you would like to thrive in
  • if you have that opportunity, than create that market, if you build something that connects to people, they will come to you from all over the world
  • count the costs and prepare for sacrifices
  • he’s confident that once you walk your path, there will be angels that will open doors, because you will have connected with something greater than yourself as an artist
  • how most artists don’t talk about the money, they talk about the flow, if there’s a good flow, the money will come
  • so find that stream where you will thrive, that will nourish you
  • find that group of people that you can serve
  • we go to school in order to make a living, but they never taught us how to live
  • you have to find out to live as an artist
  • find your angels who can teach you, and guide you along that path
  • each of us has wisdom
  • first find a way to live, then how to make a living
  • i appreciate how he flips the script from starving artist to nourished artist
  • he trusts that by approaching the business in these ways than metaphorically, things will grow in your garden
  • in the spirit of divine feminine he closes with an emphasis on integrity, respect for everything, transparency, kindness, compassion, unconditional love for self and all life, justice, kindness, fairness, awareness of karma, creativity, freedom, spiritualty, sacred geometry and relationships
  • I encourage him to do a guided meditation cd, reminds me of Choa Kok Sui the founder of the Pranic Healing system

 

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin its welcome to Township on podcast episode number 169 I’m being joined by Robert diamond dan and he is an artist image Creator who I discovered through Instagram and that he has done some of the most amazing empowering photo photography and art work with numerous beautiful lowercase G embodiments of the divine feminine goddess and it is always music to my eyes at to see this sort of exaltation of the divine feminine in the Earthly forms and so whenever I see it at a different take note and so I’ve been following his work and and synchronistically for me I’m really at a point where I want to build more alliances and connections and network with folks who are really mastering the art of using cameras for capturing the beauty of nature the beauty of the human body and and Beyond so with that said I’d like to just ask Robert if you could tell us a bit about your the services you provide your kind of background and definitely love to get the story of what brought you into the loving light of the goddess and how you discovered the the joy of service and in various Ways by the way it’s my privilege thank you for having me so I am an image Creator I to photography but I don’t use the camera to document I use it as a means to bring out the inner ideas of women at our individual female empowerment healing positive self-image Beauty sacred sexuality dancers fashion people are people who would love to portray themselves as goddesses on me yeah that is so exciting and lovely and beautiful we need so many more people like you in the world and hopefully you will be one of many as soon as more people embrace your philosophies in in these regards so if you don’t mind could you tell a silly so if I could ask her as far as going back into your personal life history can you tell us what kind of how you evolved into becoming an image artist image Creator see from your website you have a past is a physician so you have an appreciation for the form of the body and just yeah please tell us as much as you like about your your journey since we’re talking about goddesses or treat women as equals or or put them in a highlight beautiful gifts or wonderful gifts that they have I believe that it could be a much better world and also we need to support our the female the family and we can be also as males whole as well and I’ll be home as well so I believe that imagery or images are powerful and honoring our bodies emotions choices and feelings through photography weather in front of or behind the camera I believe that sits sublimely empowering so I’m using that as soon as my medium do provide my service to the community I started as don’t start when I was young my my dad bought me a small camera and he used to have the American photographer magazine lying around and so that’s what got me into it and and and what got me into the goddess thing is I don’t know what you think when you think of a goddess so well for me I think my mother when you think about goddess you think about bet love motherhood fertility and and also if they’ve been associated in mythology with Todd flake War creation and death so all that is what a goddess is interesting and be right about that and so I what got got me into this female honoring God is that I saw my mother you know rice Bob she was started eating out she she had problems serious problems with with my dad. Last day no so she was a single mother taking of us three kids and no problems of finance and I’m even at one point she got cancer but she writes about that all that and she’s a Survivor and that’s what I think a goddess you need is someone who rises above and shows their inner beauty and love their inner qualities do all so anyone can get goddess so that’s that’s where all this is coming from so it’s so beautiful actually I’ve got I’ve done tearing up right now and I’m smiling and tearing up because I just sit so it’s so beautiful to hear that I reference and yeah so going back yuno I feel most of my clients have you seen my Instagram or social feeds that usually there. They’re the performers in the public eye who come to me to provide them with a good portfolio that’s cuz all my lines yeah I love my philosophy and but most of my clients are not models their soccer moms they’re professionals curvy gals over 50 + women cancer survivors like my mom women always wanted to but thought they’d never good and those are my real flying yeah that is really fascinating and I am discovering that more yet reading website here and this is very much again in alignment with them with a lot of my values in the values of this the audience that I’m aware of it sits that we really want to smash the beauty myth and really bring something something hole in holistic into our perception of her beauty and then there’s a lot of people who are fighting even porn addiction and really lost a lot of young men last kind of mutilated form of arrows that’s the abusive imagery so do you want to talk about in from your perspective what it’s like to have this Consciousness and have this Mission and how do you navigate the the industry that the standard and some just curious if you have to kind of put on a a warrior to get through the profession in the industry or if you’re able to just sort of dance through it and just sort of Nino brighten the vibe with your instructions and go you can go different ways you know my industry is is the same way as the sacred feminine or woman goes out and they’re basically for kind so what would I find at in the world and I I use their power to navigate this industry one is the innocent Maiden The Virgin so I go out at 8% in a sentence and a sort of childlike look naturally inquisitive and then there’s the mother the mother type in other words the nurturing I see men hurricane I see women hurting and I take them on and I address their pain first and then we express your pain treatment tree and I see the warrior the enchantress Warrior are the ones who are out in the Battlefront out in the battlefield or just their just power from them and then there’s the wise old woman and they give not only because you may have information you may have date that you may have all this attention from to be but if you don’t have wisdom and how to apply this then it’ll be all for naught so that’s so I value with them and that’s what I find also in some of the swim and and that’s also how I navigate to this industry of objectifying women of corn hand on chest you know going after the lower parts of our existence lower parts of our levels of operating and so I tried to show them that there’s a better way of course there are from either issues let’s take a 4-1 for some of the men nudity is for some it’s a it’s a it’s an expression of Freedom so I I respect both and I try to respect also balls with my with my audience as well so but that’s a fine line I always have to I always have to walk yeah well that is SF Trails been seriously is there such a powerful education in in goddess archetypes in It Is Well with what you were sharing about 2 and then drawing the energy and I’m seeing this very powerful mutually reinforcing and affirming energetic flow that sits like a spiral you know it is yeah yeah yeah if you’re so this is not the words I would you come to me I would shoot you in a different way in a certain way and it would be Mike according to my bread nowadays I threw for the past 2 years the reason why I passed explode it’s because I threw that all the way this time I try to learn more of the person’s Choice Skinner struggles in your pains what have they been gone through and what did they find beautiful what side of them is beautiful and then once I know that that’s what I bring up for and and III realizes that they will use their. That photograph def image for something he was there all the time as their profile pic or after the bring it up once in a while is because they’d be filled connected to it and so yeah so my my my box of the Spiral is that Michael is my challenge time as an artist how can I open the throat so that inspiration can just flow my job is to remove the obstacles and just let it flow and see where it goes. That’s as long as I have my own values that I told you to yeah well so this it sounds like you actually create a very palpable experience of being in the healing sacred container of Consciousness that is about consent and about co-creative and collaborative art and so much communication and so the art of really the Lost Art of men helping women feel safe and sexy and empowered and free at the same time this is so it’s it’s a guy to last and suppress art so what I’d love to know if you have feedback from just the kind of container that you’re creating and that the before-and-after energetically when when a woman has is the ability to be put to a goddess worship Puja of sorts if you will have three of the time I have a you know before they before they come I try to know a lot about them first and then as soon before I click the first shot I have this I create the container saying I tell them what my intentions are I declare my intentions to them and the universe and I and that is my so-called prayer and that is my the meditative operate injury I shoot so usually gets that I used to say I declare my intentions to create imagery that will inspire women to find your inner goddess and rudest images find their true selves the true beauty and this is my attention with that simple thing. Creates a duck. Already unravels a lot of the of the things that comes in to shoot so and so are our interaction now is like a worship of worship of you know a what we can celebrate through our hands together in that tree in that in that moment so so that’s how I open up I like create the shoot for each person that is absolutely Priceless and so so comforting to know and it’s did you put that effort in that sincerity in that virtue and value into it I can tell you yet from experience that that is a gourmet restaurant five star hotel watch beyond University dollar compared to what can be hoes just put it on the negative spectrum of experiences since you can you can with the best intentions it can be a nightmare so I appreciate that you do that in and yes you don’t mind to talk a bit about some of the the technical aspects of the sort of them yeah yeah more more more material aspects I’m very interested now and trying to understand what how you speak about your love of light and Shadow and color and just all of that sort of artsy stuff that that is behind the scenes of behind-the-scenes unit from your phrase the light in the dark shadows yeah so every woman’s experience is different ways in different contexts different settings and it’s not always like it’s sometimes most of the time it has something to do with Darkness or Shadow so you’re not the worst they’re dealing with something they’re struggling with something they’re fine and most importantly you’re trying to find the beauty in it of it all other friends trying to find the meaning and a lot of discussion on that note I I tried to ask ask them what the where they see themselves five years from now so I have an acute or a water westers drug before I ask them what’s your struggle what are you struggling with that’s one of the last questions I’d like to come to you when I get there. Then I have an idea what exactly they’re what kind of elements that they looking for in the in the image and I find I find out the great hydrator process yeah so before the Artistry or the tech technicalities fly I tried to address the sort of the motive the intention of the image the the commission of damage what purpose is it going to serve I try I try to ask that if not I’ll try to offer that ship for is it to excite is it to attract is said to provide healing is said to mirror pain is it to naira. So I have to deal with intention and motivation first before I pick everything happens after that the technicality with that so and usually I work but I shoot the I can shoot them anywhere as she if I’m shot them and everywhere and I can even put I can just put on a white ball are white background Photoshop demand where are specified shoot them where they are where a place outside nature usually where at where do you find the context of their true lives live so it could be a forest it could be the sea it could be a robo in the city so I so yes I I that’s the best way to catch the location and things like that so of course photos are there photographers I I used to I used to use Photoshop I used I use Lightroom mostly all all ended with intention of serving the story the story is number one what is the story about the story that she wants to tell what’s the story we want to tell so story supersedes everything else that everything else yeah so that’s so I know that’s not the technical part of it but that is the major 80% considerations of creating that image I’m seeing in kind of feeling that what you’re doing is kind of a a Fung shui of the atmosphere and the environment so that your it’s the flow of energy that comes from being in a more personalized setting and not just being an a I mean you can wherever you are you can kind of crate that container and so you’re really alive everything to a point where the I bet that I bet and I would love for you to talk about it do you feel like when you set things up that way and you sent you you have the attention of facilitating a story that’s bigger than the technical aspects of things and taking train to do you do you feel that the synchronicities flow and that you have more magical kind of little happy accidents that open up new things is it really magical process or I’m a great believer of what you call this you are brought there for certain beasts and things happen for Speed like for example one time edestus International mall to ship came she came in a day early to San Francisco I am in San Francisco so she came in a day early is it okay I’m ready to shoot them here I said it’s the next day I’m so sorry I said you know there’s a reason why this happened so where are you now she said she was at this place is it okay let’s shoot their let’s shoot their that’s not that’s there’s a reason why this happened and that’s not that’s not how you know drivers build me up. Let’s let’s do what we have and I think that’s why the goddess isn’t that what whatever cards you’re dealt with you play it’s oh so that’s what we did and we ran out of that cave really good in the tree and she was she was very happy about that yeah so so yeah so I’m I’m really I may have a Septa SEPTA Plan for a shoot but IM I’m willing for happy accidents are hot or Serendipity just to come in and my my my challenge to myself is Follow You Follow Follow Follow the White Rabbit where it leads so pleasurable and satisfying and also less frustration yeah less stressful just go with the flow yeah that’s that’s another good thing to talk about my intention for the creative works that I’m engaged in is too I decided a few years ago that I was going to try to hold to a policy that if stress is in the price tag of anything then I’m just going to decide that I want it I’ll have this whatever this baby yeah baby we’re not the not the intended artist to work at a production environment do you want it yeah just talked about how you have you felt because you do you do sounds like you do a combination of your own your own you work for hire as for other so when you talk to other people who are in that high stress high production mode de vie are you able to mitigate that into sir to soften that sounds like you I would imagine that you were able to experience experience that helps me and what are the deliverables what they really want and for what intention I have to ask I really have to see a specialist in advertising they have stuff to tell me who the market is what the product is what what kind of what kind of woman are they trying to Target so once we have that down that Things become much easier and sometimes it’s best if they’re on site so they can say okay that’s great that’s nice I’ll use that yeah so things yeah removing all the obstacles to do that and of course working in the budget I sometimes you know those things might not be no because I have a lot of upcoming stock up so so I take it this job and should take it as a challenge to see if I can deliver especially if we have to save infection style or same same philosophies that yes I would do that so yes but yes I think most of the time it’s the qualifications of the update of the intention of the pieces and also the budget what are they worth Easter budget a sieve what can be delivered under their budget so I also suggest which which part might they might not invest in more so that they can achieve their goals or getting a better location yeah so yeah so but it starts first with their objective yeah I suppose sounds like again you were definitely able to just transform the space in and get through the air like to ask about just what you were if you have tips for a more enlightened way of doing model release agreements and a talent release form and just what I just said to give a little background what I’ve noticed is that as I’ve been kind of exploring the space sort of on my own just that there’s a wide range of different types of terms in contracts and release forms and whatnot and its really sadly in the worst cases which are pretty dominant seems like that it’s the tendency is to release trip a lot of rights away that are non-negotiable and + infinity and + just no no no limits and no causes that would give much agency to a woman to want to be forgotten later or to have you no content removed or or even have the right to to approve the content before it’s published in too, and have her Visions just there’s all kinds of different I believe ways the scene ways and kind of ways that you can be very empowering even into the business contract kind of in the things I’m curious if you apply what you apply in that area and and in the Bible some of the stuff yeah so let me talk to the models who might be listening or thinking to be Manos is that a mother release is really you are released that is she all release that is your release you’re releasing the photographer along with his other assigns that could be the magazine from from from going back to you and asking your permission you can you can put a certain you can don’t be afraid to write down you don’t get a new ship in the pawn shop in the model release or type it in specially if it’s an app weather because sometimes you know you can put their ass I will should not be used for stock photography or should not be used for a drug campaign so yeah so you can eat if you have that choice yet but essentially it is a really you’re releasing the photographer or the creative person to do whatever you’re just lucky and they’re in their clay so once you accept that you do not know the problem is, I see problems are we performers artist performers feel that they are getting you and the old that they own the pictures and that they have final say I give them a lot of leeway but unless it’s written down that you have that kind of relationship unless you commissioned them which is much more expensive actually so yes or performers after Escapade they want to be portrayed they have they have a certain brand to put that if you’re a photographer you tried to get into that I tried to be good nice and run about that few you may or may not what’s your brand down it’s up to you if it will if it if it will serve both of you but with my performers is that the I mean I mean I mean without a really good picture which I know with would be good for magazine or something or any other for a jury selection but they say I don’t like how I look so yeah so subsidy I could be your issue that could be your that’ll be some of your frustrations I stabbed is dealing with with with their wishes and their their ideas yeah off of what is beautiful or what is appropriate for them it’s a complex question I appreciate that you really did cover it from the number of Dimensions really appreciate even the way that you that you put yourself into the perspective and and spoke directly to the different the different stakeholders you interpret in a production and if I can follow up a little bit and just say I can commiserate and I feel that you know it’s what I’ve discovered really is that it is a very very big deal to any human being who has vulnerabilities and insecurities which we all do to have to have yourself kind of Amplified an exaggerated all over now the internet with literally no way to prevent any kind of pirated use of whatever mean there’s some methods of recourse but really it’s it’s it is a big deal to let your likeness loose into the the world out there that the cyber world and then what not end and despite save feeling really empowered about doing something in advance and then life happening in wanting to distance yourself from certain things or just like you’re saying that very simply just feeling you look at the set of photos in and maybe you would have down to very few at a very many because of just feeling like you don’t want to you don’t want to share those things so I thought you had to interesting Dynamic antonym to be not even in any in any other agency I just comes down to on all sides both sides did the photographer’s producers or directors and and models and other other people playing different roles to understand that I think the way I guess the need to be professional and to be in you no compassion and pathetic there just has to be really well defined boundaries in in well written. I just feel like every every production should have its own customized two or three emails back and forth of setting up the terms in it in a healthy way that sets the boundaries and expectations you know for everything and and that isn’t just a cookie cutter template that people just don’t even look at her read and they just pass it all honey you know what I mean so if you have any tips for 4/4 at any of that or we can move on to something else I think we covered the first resources professional photographers of America EPA has good mod have good releases that you can get Getty Images has a great model of 4 releases so you can use any of that but that being said is there a whoever your client is I mean as a as a photographer artist you have to do some education with regards to your client especially in a client that that is in the public eye for intends to be in the public eye for long periods Natural State have a brand so to speak this what I advise them I advise them that form focus group maybe three of three people not their friends but three people that represents their target market so whoever your target market is get three representatives and finally find them and let them look at your pictures let them what I asked asked them. Which one appeals to them because a lot of these performers day they allow this artist celebrities that take pictures which do not relate relate or a connect with your audience you have to let the audience take that and something most of the time because the big shoes are the pictures that are authentic pictures that show a give them a glimpse of who they really are not the Photoshop contrived pictures they want to see that they want to be able to connect with that so that’s the reason why a lot of people can connect with my pictures because I have thrown up my my ideas of what you see is I let I let them all at the people the people make the by audience tell him I know show me that’s why I look into the inside portion I am I looking at the two God method add the the data that comes so I haven’t I have a glimpse of what kind of people but what are they like water. So so I’ll let you kick me in the challenge of every celebrity every every instagrammer is how can I be relevant how can I be how can I connect I say start stop being controlling be real be authentic stand for something and let them choose what they do they connect and that’s a much better much better think I’m making making all this August 8th and Cynthia release forms yeah start by educating them opening their opening their mindset took the real success out there the real Beauty that’s out there that’s possible for them so with that yeah yeah that’s so profound an amazing it’s what the what comes to mind as you’re saying this is that actually I heard a I believe it was a CD Baby independent musician conference that the founder of patreon give a keynote speech at and one of his one of his this points that stuck with me of the monks many the story of his Evolution as a musician making music videos and finding that is content was not satisfactorily monetized on big other big data platforms and so he created patreon basically to serve his own interest to be able to make some people able to tip the creative work cities that he’s done and so that kind of snowballed into this platform that’s in power so many people and one of the points he made that stuck with me so much was it when you talked about how you just need to really Anna paraphrasing but he said you know for musicians this is the device you know the main devices if you just have to continue to produce content and not try to tweak it to Perfection and slow down on making an excuse for music it was like don’t try to make the if you spend too much time in between releases you basically lose attention but but even worse it’s just you don’t you think you know what your number one Smash It track is going to be you know what Elkwood tracks on an album or going to be the the chart Toppers but really you don’t ever know and it could take years to find out so just keep flowing and so I feel like what’s coming to me based on what you said which is a total parallel to that feeling of all only the best images can get through but if you let the clutch you know the crowd or the cloud decide I think that’s a really could be a genius way to help women especially who have the issues of body dysmorphia and all of these I mean I don’t want to even get into it but all of the different vulnerabilities and that that can plague the consciousness of a woman in her relationship to her beauty and two people watching into cameras in an art and everything it’s like if you could just let literally let people vote with some means of some technical means online and say hey this is the most of this set these are the show us the full set and then we’ll tell you where your most where we think you’re most beautiful and you can blame that up with you know where you need maybe it’s like you need love on your on this part of your body and that’s where people felt that so they love you being I don’t know if this is a dynamic thing feedback loop that that was touch down in that that speech and it makes me feel like it’s all about just creating as much caffeine as you can and you let the organic process of your fans kind of uphold what they find most glorious are beautiful or best sounding if it’s sticker whatnot so yeah engage shot engage your audience engage your target market get your fans cuz yeah you’re not producing just for yourself for juicing for your tribe and it’s red California you know you have to have to be done with this the wave where the wave when the waves come in you have to learn to serve it yeah I should be washed out on the Rocks yeah yeah so so it’s keeping her your whole census open to input and feelings yeah because the same thing with my clients and my audience is that I focus on the feeling yeah because whoever whether your client or a fan or someone. What what you remember is the feeling that I that I gave you it’s not it’s not the awesome technical saying that I did it’s the feeling that I gave you the motion that that was a roast in you and so the more eccentric you are the more the more you can sense to speak in a long list the inner desires yeah then then you’ll be able to engage and connect with your audience and also with with the performance well how can they connect with your audience as well beautiful also I think we got really really well into some of the ethics some of the not technically legal advice but some of the advisement around you know the really just being in good standing with the with the divine feminine this is Christmas Eve a l l go to greatest whatever the man’s law is I guarantee you it’s nowhere near as punishable and strict as certain of the the what I felt to be the strict guidelines of the divine feminine and I’ll leave it at that but it’s a higher level of Duty of care for the stove if you’re getting into this you know for sure of not being part of this conveyor belt of commodification that were involved in as an industrial society so it shines it shines through the work you’re doing this the voice that you have I can’t believe now we’ve already gone through most of an hour but I just want to ask you if you if you could spend a few more minutes to talk a bit about something I’m very curious about which is sort of the the economic ecosystem that you have quite a highly developed a sort of bird’s-eye view of with your level of experience in and your workload do you have and everything so for people who are nuby starting out in this the field of let’s say being you could say you’re a digital artist your portrait artist I don’t know exactly what all the categories you’ll find yourself in but as I’m seeing I guess I’m noticing around around on Instagram what not there’s people who are making a decent living even if just to patreon and NN other gigs were they might shoot weddings or they might shoot products or whatever I’d love to really know the sort of behind the scenes of a in the industry of the say that you just photography as an industry our people our people hacking through and making a living and doing independent freelancing and just the state of the industry I don’t know if that’s that’s I know it’s a huge question but I’m just curious if you could give us a little behind the scenes of how I guess the pie chart really of of what people do to stay afloat with their brands and their businesses from the product from the photographer visual artists are things okay so that’s a very very important question but first I go back to that surfing thing about step trans are happening in intense rapping in the industry where which you have to be aware of and if you want to create your Niche or create a state where you can thrive in it then you have to learn one is the trend stop everyone now so photographer with the new phone sending you have everyone is a graphic designer everyone’s a photographer so what will make you stand out is that yeah you have to you have to stand for something you have to stand you have to recognize the way that’s coming and it’s different for every generation some generations are big but the thing is they don’t really have money some generations are small but they do have money so what you should do is should have something where that was your Starbucks job you know that the job that you know that will give you some money just putting hours in it so every every artist at Starbucks jobs have that and then from there try to get a feel for that and try to come try to come up with something that really is you the question that you have to ask yourself first is how do you really want to work what do you really want to do and do it I know it’s Easter simply that I said than done but the thing is that’s huge cuz it’s not you’re still not saying make an excuse why you can’t do find a way to do it but they have to be you have to work at it it’s not easy but you have to work at it if it mustn’t Rob your soul from your penis that’s me some people you know performing in different ecosystems that’s fine everyone is different but I’m sure everyone that everyone there should be a balance of what brings food in your table and a roof over your head and also what feature so so I tried to find a way where it’s a path that will happen sometimes my case I did not I did not look at the Mark that say okay mister Market I had to create the market so create the market that you would like to try it in that if you have if you have that opportunity then create a pocket yes if you if you build something that’s that connect people they will come to you from all over the world so so yeah so yeah stand for something yeah and then do the do the do the financial work count the cost at the cost in order to pursue that and it’ll be something there may be some sacrifices that maybe but there’s nothing I walk into your in your past there will be angels that will that will open doors your way because you you have you have Kinect read something or something greater than yourself so so yeah so that that’s that’s what I can say as an artist and they don’t talk about the money I don’t know I don’t know maybe it’s just me but they don’t talk about the money but they talk about the flow if there’s a good for the money will come the money will come up there. Just you just have to find the flow find that stream where find extreme where you will Thrive at the Panera shield and find a group of people that’s real that you can serve and yeah so that’s the that’s my I am I’m sorry I’m sure there are there are there are there are there what’s called this other things will deal with the economics of it and the business aspect of it but because we go to school in order to learn how to make a living but they never taught us how to live right so likewise you have to know you have to find how to live as an artist you have to find out for yourself and find your it your angels who can teach you can guide you along that path and empty box yet each of us has wisdom that we can impart to each other and each each other to that first day of first find a way to live next how to make a living from the bottom of my heart and I’m sure any listener who is hurt more than one or two episodes of this podcast are going to know that without a doubt you are a huge angel wings being brought to help to bring shed this light of Consciousness and awareness into it the other people who who are really on the front lines of confronting the shadow of a lot of things that have to do with imagery have to do with portrayal of women and and all that so I feel that I hundred percent 100% of concur with being in the zone for good and whatever that cause being that’s what you you pursue in the flow like you said surfing the flow of abundance he will be a nurse artist and not a starving artist so creative process that involves other people and uplifting way and you will be golden and so yeah that’s the real currency oh yeah yeah things are growing a garden things will grow in your garden and I don’t think you can top it with those best last words for now if you like to give your website and yeah let people know how they can connect with you how they can book you for for shoots and how they can follow your work I would love to help promote everything that you’re doing yeah just Google my name Robert domondon all o c o m o n d o n n it will point you to all my websites and all my work in the interwebs so that’s my thing and feminine I I hope that I would like to re-emphasise the values of Integra the respect for everything transparency kindness compassion unconditional love for self and all life just is fairness, creativity freedom and spirituality sacred geometry or relationships and that’s that’s what I would like to bring out there and hopefully you can relate to that and that’s we can work together beautiful will one of these days we’re going to have to give you some background music for meditation CD Reformation CD got to have it I love it yet and you’re one of my my greatest spiritual spiritual Heroes choa kok Tsui the founder of the pranic healing system but big residents there so I appreciate that you send us off with a beautiful prayer and and I thought you couldn’t have talked to you at the last passwords but you you certainly did I appreciate it thank you so much you know we’re going to we’re going to leave these metaphors and and get some beautiful work done so I will be in touch with you and we will definitely continue the journey and I’m sure sooner rather than later we’ll be there would be a budget that brings us together from the projects that I’m kind of manifesting so I will see you in a more beautiful now troll beautiful future thank you been my pleasure also all right you have a great night take care take care, and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple I provide ecological an appointment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Archer Park. 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Responsible Psychedelic Sexuality with Leia Friedman and Matt Hollander TPP168

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In this episode I’m joined by a lovely couple for a round table discussion on responsible psychedelic sexuality.

We discuss:

  • our personal approaches to consenting psychedelic self pleasuring practices with ourselves
  • how and when psychedelics and other sacred plants are appropriate for them in their relationship
  • the shadow of alcohol and hard drugs
  • patterns of unconscious sexuality of the punk movement
  • sexuality in the neo-hippie subculture
  • the shadow of guru worship
  • cults around spiritual leaders
  • student/teacher sexual dynamics
  • exploitation of followers
  • predatory behavior patterns in ayahuasca communities
  • the dangers of free love
  • ego and peer pressure
  • corruption of those taking money for sexual healing or spiritual guidance
  • patient/client dating time delay requirements
  • examples in other professional sectors of ethics and code of conduct standards
  • sexual political economy
  • boundaries around involving state authorities in restorative justice
  • Psychedelic Patriarchy video
  • incident denial when survivors come out
  • creating supportive space
  • reporting incidents of abuse by emailing: hello [at] psychedelicwomen.com
  • the role of trained mediators
  • can sociopaths be rehabilitated?
  • calling out celebrities
  • accountability, hide or be accountable
  • admitting when wrong
  • the no more hiding now project
  • the logic and morality of triage in emergency response
  • standard operating procedures trained and drilled as a form of preparedness
  • sharing tools for building incident response social infrastructure
  • grey areas of consent
  • potential for redemption of perpetrators through service work
  • personal hard lessons with sexual misconduct
  • functional and dysfunctional investigations
  • gossip, drama, telephone games
  • appropriate scrutiny of public figures
  • compassion for those who’ve fallen from grace
  • the shadow of shunning and displacing perps
  • harm reduction, success stories
  • shamanic ceremonial healing for perps and ex-cons
  • when survivors aren’t ready to bring it to light
  • how people take sides, defend perps, and subvert advocates
  • asking the victim what they need
  • not assuming you know how/when you should apologies
  • consent in the process of justice
  • How Psychedelics Informed My Sex Life and Sex Work by Annie Sprinkle:

About Leia:
Leia Friedman, M.S. is a teacher, writer, and connectress. She is the cofounder of Boston Entheogenic Network, host of the podcast “The Psychedologist: consciousness positive radio,” the integration resource list volunteer coordinator for MAPS, and a permaculturalist. Her work focuses on phenomena related to the human experience of consciousness through the lens of social and environmental justice. Leia is exploring ways to bridge the diverse and multidimensional intersections of psychedelics and ecology while residing at Happy Acres Farm in Sherman, CT.

About Matt:
Matt hollander is one of the founders of BEN the boston entheogenic network, a psychonaut and the singer of the boston hardcore punk band ancient filth. He is interested in the intersection of radical politics psychedelics and non duality.

Please check out their projects:
https://thepsychedologist.libsyn.com/
https://www.facebook.com/nomorehidingnow
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bentheogenic/
https://ancientfilth.bandcamp.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 168 this is going to be a very interesting and enlightening episode I’m joined by Leah Friedman who is the psychologist and she is an adjunct professor of psychology a psychedelic Advocate and permaculture list among many other wonderful beautiful and amazing things that we will learn all about shortly and also one of her Partners in in life and in love and his name is Matt Hollander and he is a psycho nut punk rocker opening bands for 15 years currently the frontman of ancient filth is that correct and he’s been booking shows and doing events and also helped start the Boston and Thea genic Network very interested in the intersection of radical politics and Consciousness and freedom of Consciousness so to give a little bit of background before we get all started with this there was a recent psychedelic Symposium conference in Los Angeles and I felt like I normally would be all over attending but I had some some duties I had to attend to and I felt like you know I feel like I may be at a higher point of Leverage to just connect with some of the presenters look at the people representing and see what they’re talking about and then maybe fine folks of interest to invite on the podcast rather than go and and actually be there in person and kind of broke my heart that I wasn’t there but then I just felt like you know something good will come out of it and this I need the results of that was looking into some of the things going on around that around that event and in the movement and I wanted to check in to this phenomenon of there being sort of research and resources around collecting testimonials about sexual misconduct from psychedelic shamanic practitioners whether they be doing a sort of time for type work or sexual healing type work Hands-On work involving some some psychedelic medicines or just people who are in the second ochimana community and their basic Authority and power than maybe you know consciously or unconsciously of using and misusing in sexual ways and Dynamics and certainly just how patriarchy which is the backdrop to everything how that how that infects and Ben poisons even our best intentions in ceremonies and in communities so a lot to how about that is so you know really what we talked about as the shadow work and you know in and sacred sexuality the shadow work is is uncomfortable but necessary to to deal with and also add two cities are the slipperiest of slopes for sure for sure for certain in psychedelic work and in sexual sexually works I’m always thrilled to have conversations that further this discourse and get people who are her passion in about these issues and then I can’t I can’t think these two folks enough for being so and residents with my personal background were talking about my favorite things punk rock and theologians permaculture you know what what more do you need to peel and save so maybe that’s what we should call Us episode but yeah we’re really doing our best here I would say and it’s just been a blessing to connect and we’ve had some fun some fun talks leading up to this and what we’re going to attempt to do is just have a bit of a round table and this is I think the first time I’ve done this and also it’s a blessing because he is going to on her podcast the second ologies podcast is going to rebroadcast or we could even call it like a punk rock style split 7 in released and I favorite kind of thing so so that was my my typical exhaustive intro and now I’m going to turn it over to Leah to address the audience of her podcasts and we’ll give her it to the floor to introduce well usually to start off my episodes I just I have an introduction which they’re all make an introduction before this so everyone on my show just heard the introduction and I go this is bent on truck say hi that’s really all I do So High by and say hi I am my name is Ben Lawson I go by the name Tantra punk as a stage name and I am your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment and you can find out a lot more about what all that means at Central Park. Com where I have a podcast and I create educational instructional videos and sacred trance dance music and I also come from a long history in the punk rock and metal movement and I have been in numerous bands and him sort of reconciling all this stuff in my at my personal life and professional life and I and I would say that to a degree I am a somewhat semi-professional practicing sexual shamanic practitioner with certain credentials to my name of being a certified Tantra counselor Under the Tent request School in San Diego and I’m also a certified permaculture designer and a lot of other Badges of Honor I suppose along the way but I’m doing my best to stay in service and to stay as humble as possible and integrate as much input from other people because we’re really talking about some of the the slippery of slopes doing this kind of work and I’m so I’m here to kind of be roasted in a way I think I’m open to being roast Temp and life and also to just explore all of our different experiences so yeah so what are you mad do you want to talk a bit about yourself and give us more of your background then we can all kind of kick get going at Hollander GTA has been working with anxiety I’ve also been in the punk rock scene in Boston for around the same amount of time to play Radical politics and non-duality and just trying to understand what is the score find my place in this crazy world we live in if your network of Boston group that brings together people from all talk about how do you spell experiences and support and he can go and and talking where do we hear your band ancient filth on music is on on the bandcamp for free to listen to download and yeah I’ll survive lyrics I got the lyrics vs you would be so kind as to step into the matriarch roll for as long as you’d like you can kind of set us up and start to dry out you know what is most present for for you and your thinking around these topics and then you know I feel like we can just go from there if you’re comfortable with that I would think that’d be great, I mean I can lead I don’t think we have to gender it in this case. I’ve been thinking a lot about consent lately and people in the community ourselves building up our ability to understand what is the S and what is know and I think it’s particularly relevant in altered state it’s obviously relevant in sexual play in sexual experiencing even with the self just that idea of giving yourself consent to go on a personal experience is something I may never have considered but I think that is a practice we should all look at so I think any conversation about sexuality and psychedelics especially those two together have to start with consent and I don’t know I mean been like if we want to do this as just kind of a conversation maybe we could start with talking about that maybe we just talking about what it feels like to be neurotic self-exploration on drugs and no one can tell you that you’re not telling the truth you know no one can no one can contend with it if it’s your own private experience so actually last night I would say I just was coming right off of a of a pretty profound Journey myself so maybe I can do a little bit if I can slam poetry how does that sound when should we start from yeah what you’re saying the very very very rude of consent being a very personal personal thing right yeah yeah let’s start with you and then see where that leads to I think you’re a little on are integration why not what could go wrong I’ve been given permission by the the Hindu Tantra goddess Kali to kiss and tell and she’s definitely a very probably type of creature and loves all the other goddesses and what likes to watch me play with other goddesses in the human and non-human forms and whatnot but I always feel like by coming down from mushrooms with your my drug of choice I feel like I having to face the mundane world and get back into traffic and get back into J jobs all that stuff it’s always a step down from the glory of being in Union with worth it yeah they the sexy dark Goddess that that has been invoked in the jungles of throughout India for since time immemorial mean for going back twenty thousand years at least in the archaeological record the indigenous Pagan hunter-gatherers have been celebrating the the Earth mother goddess and and certainly discovering and playing with the erotic forms and really having a lot of magical ritual involved with that so as a as a white boy in the American West and the 21st century it’s you know the way that I’ve encountered her is been quite an adventure and I would say it’s it’s the if if there is one thing I’m here to do its to correct the history in the Indiana Jones Temple of Doom movie where he goes to school he goes to a Kali Temple and they get it all wrong and it’s all backwards cuz instead of liberating children and slaying demons she is the demoness goddess whose enslaving and saving children and corrupting everyone the only thing they did get right about that movie is that and I’ve had to think about it a lot because it is considered by Hindu Orthodox Hindu Kali worshippers who are worshipping a very demure and very domesticated form of the goddess in temples throughout India and then in homes now they’ve stripped a lot of the wild sexual nature away from her but even the most yeah but there’s a huge backlash of that movie amongst amongst them Orthodox Hindu Kali worshippers because it’s so offensive and so I such a colonized view of the Goddess but what’s what’s so what I found so interesting after studying their critique of that movie that film and after watching it again I realize wait a minute there is a deeper truth that they were conveying here without even knowing it and a lot of Kali worship say all is mAh meaning that even the door even the most Sinister things about her inner nature and you know people out there to sociopath psychopath if you’d look at them as teachers and you know at some level they just need to have the demon whisper come in and tickle tickle the demons out of them so that they can be activated into the light and there’s like a deeper love story of transformation that’s involved in this but if you watch that movie again you will notice us deeper deeper critique that they are offering is that the reason this with all went awry and that the thuggee cult emerge to practice you know they were basically thieves who were worshipping the goddess and trying to extract magical powers from her in a perverted and corrupted way doing human sacrifice and now it really was the problem with that whole picture is that it was all male priests and they they wedged the female priestesses out of the Pagan spirituality of psychedelic goddess worship and they replaced it with the Brahmin is stick hierarchical empire building male priest lead only the priests could speak the language and write the words and they they pushed the feminine out of the goddess and can’t even believe what they did but you see it it’s like oh yeah it’s it’s all men doing this Puja ritual where they’re sacrificing people that’s the problem now if I can come back and bring my love story with the goddess to you know eventually bring Harrison Ford to the Kali temple in Laguna Beach for him to bow down and meet the goddess then we can redo that script and and I’ll be happy to continue that Legacy and in the right way and show her and her Grandma Lori said that’s that’s for the best that is divided that I’m rolling off of after being in Union with the guys last night and I don’t know what that means and he has no one but it’s just yeah I’m doing my best to just go with the stream-of-consciousness oh yeah that’s my that’s my contribution to the self-loving Psychedelic critical component of this convo I feel like it’s a great pitch for like a Trippy porn and I think we should roll with it if it was a joke but it was Indiana Jones and the Temple of poon ticket downtown okay I need to shut up now please next to the same thing and maybe you want to share what were you thinking I did I just have an amazing experience on LSD and MDMA where I was I was there to pleasure it and can you tell us more cat sounds like you’re going to MIT you’re going to do a remake of Stargate with Kurt Russell definitely made my mouth 35th and having the world come all over my face a giant waterfall they don’t call it the Milky Way for nothing right yeah I said once someone and someone ask me actually Rak razam who is highly esteem shamanic facilitator and documentarian end in a conversation about this kind of stuff that we had in the previous podcast know he asked me once he’s like how do you know that Kylie is not a demon how do you know that she’s not disguised in some way and I’m like well the proof’s in the pudding man I mean it’s the samadhi the Bliss that you didn’t you just you feel like you’re on the spin cycle in the cosmic Yoni and you know you feel is so all right how are you so are we ready for Lissa testimonial confessions I hope a lot of Catholic listening in the confession Booth of it’s like the opposite of profane as it gets when it comes to psychedelic trippy and Wild As It Gets for me is I just completely become a plant and I don’t know maybe plants they must have sexual feelings actually with those beautiful flowers that they produce to get bees and pollinators to come inside and pickle them and gather their Harris Teeter their dust or whatever but I haven’t had much sexual fantasy in trip but I know that you know I’ve I’ve struggled I have thrived I mean I’ve gone through my entire life with body dysmorphia and this is like some of my oldest memories of being in a body are dysmorphic of kind of like a wrenched image of myself in this form and when I took LSD for the first time and most times that I’ve taken it afterward I had a sense of being like free and and yet like inhabiting and grounded in my body if that makes sense like being free from it but also like being bully in it and I have worked with that sense because this is what I think is unique in that empty a genic or the altered Consciousness experiences like the ability to access that state of thinking afterward is only just as remembering what it felt like to be that way you can’t necessarily call it in all the time but it’s like the the roads are the roads have been traveled once before I like the the neuronal pathways have at least been touched and so tapping back into that I’ve had a lot of sexual Liberation do do psychedelic experiences of of inhabiting my for more of like of the embodiment so that that’s what I would say to the point I think it is my ability to receive and to be in pleasure comfortably has definitely been helped by psychedelics that’s very interesting and you have a psychology background so I feel like it’s sacrilege to even invoked his name but because you’re a psychologist you would be very familiar with this like what what I hear you describing his brain gives me flashbacks to the brief study of Freud that I had to do in anthropology it was like kind of a sidebar in that in that training but I remember distinctly and it’s kind of triggered by what you’re saying this you know there’s there’s not a whole lot honestly that I agree with you about his is DC to species but one thing that does ring true to me is that notion that sexuality begins before puberty and it’s about just pleasure in the body and how you discover that like I used to play with my belly button and it used to just give me the surges of of overwhelming arrows that no one around me could figure out but it didn’t seem you know cut the logical just seemed like a is better than cartoons why not in that would be a form of self-expression and discovery of a Rosetti that kind of like you’re saying if you know the money. She doesn’t have to be genital Focus doesn’t have to be about friction fucking with somebody or something and can be about inhabiting and feeling deeply into the sensuousness of your whole being and that sounds like a great a great kind of approach to it is that is that ring a bell for you and we want to go off of that with your bring it into the lens of psychology osher yeah well I do think that as that we are sexual beings from the beginning and end part of part of our sexuality I think of a place by the cultural climate that were raised in and what most of which is sex negative unless you’re in some kind of countercultural family or our you’re just not as much as I think to be encouraged to discover and self pleasure yourself or like sexual play among children is almost always frowned upon and and preventing I’m not necessarily advocating for that because there’s like a Content issue again kind of go back to it but then again when gauging in sexual play with little friends that I had when I was five six little other little girls and little boys and or like to close do you know that I understood my boundaries enough to only do things that felt comfortable to me but I think what you’re asking about the experiencing of pleasure I think like there’s a there’s all these different droppers to pleasure for me there can be right like being in a place that but doesn’t feel like the right setting for her pleasure that kind of like Stoppers my ability to experience it or list of things on my mind that I have to attend to like gets in the way of feeling turned on above Like Loving what’s going on and then another thing that would get in the way is body dysmorphia so to be able to access the sense of embodiment with Timmy with useful sexually because allow me to like unstopper the flow of treasury note the to take off the reducing valve for the the sensations that are possible your asthma is sexual partner not feel free to us well that question as soon as we’ve been together and we’ve been exploring a lot of these issues of the you know definitely let you know cuz I you know I think you know like I know most amazing thing in the world and I and so it’s really amazing to be able to you know do you know gorgeous and and really help them come into their body and it’s just it’s such an amazing thing for both of us to experience something like that and do you know but anyway. So you don’t even need a permit you don’t need a license what’s the powerful sex worker goddesses that I’ve ever met she is such a a heroin to me in one of the things that she said which is so apropos this conversation is that she would like to say this the sort of bit of wisdom she had and she basically said you know you can it’s legal for you to go down to a gun shop and buy a gun but you can’t buy my pussy that’s how powerful my pussy is you can buy something but if you go to the Hampshire pretty soon you’re going to be able to buy both with your favorite cryptocurrency so I know that’s funny letter fireworks from liquor stores that are you staying out of that is so great I am so there I’ve had I’ve had enough with everything I just said and I even thought of how it would be nice I like what you said this is important to to know what you said about you we do need those winter months to actually heal and until it’s I feel like the people are running on such hyperdrive in LA because there aren’t it feels like there’s really no season so there’s no introspection there’s no self-reflection there’s no getting close with the family or with the Beloved at it with the land you know being a part of those Cycles so I really do feel like I probably I probably fall in love so much that I won’t care to leave so even if it’s freezing cold because I’ll be around the campfire you know I’ll be around if you know this the the wood stove or whatever maybe so I know it’s gorgeous and it’s so cute really you’re the season Majestic earlier today and not because of smog smog 6% Caucasian but that was a bit of a culture shock for sure Caucasian it turned out which is which also further to the stigma of the same kind of like if there is such a thing as middle class in Hollywood now I feel driving I guess it depends on who’s driving I got there in four and a half but you can get all of the action all of the food everything I could to make sense to to be posted up legally in New Hampshire for so many reasons and then I can imagine it I kind of imagined that it would be the Vegas or or like you’re saying but I’m surprised that there isn’t a more of a booming adult Production Studio house industry given that you could it’s it’s bad. It sounds like it’s about as far as away is Vegas and everyone fled to Vegas when the the kind of life started taking enforceable effects in the LA County area so that’s a question I have for you is it you know if you’ve been following the the regulation around and this sort of the big money the big money clinical groups who are trying to shut down the street on the health but with the health department as a sort of there their battering ram into the industry I’m curious in New Hampshire are they is it is there any specifications from the health department or health code that that are trying to set the rules for the industry for the porn industry there it is it is the Wild Wild West out here we are more people more to join you know start producing they would have to try to regulate but I don’t know if they would because I really don’t think they would I adhere to the same you know guidelines as as far as testing goes the only difference is I need to get tested we we provide them with testing we make sure everyone we we go through this last we have this very detailed checklist I think it was inspired by Nikki Benz and if possible the only difference is we’re not paying Los Angeles or Las Vegas free small company but you know we talked about splitting, according Talent from Vegas and Los Angeles and you know kind of responsibility regulating type of business you just have to have trust that all people are you know I’m doing the right thing around that is because yeah I think that I think like Outlets sexually here you know I said you know if you will actually liberated place like you know I even thought about you some Leaf peeping directed in the professional studio shoot up or down with your spouse just that sounds like a great guy honestly before you even were saying this stuff I could I was just it was a premonition that you would be talking about this because I I just felt like you were going to probably end up working in some capacity with the Chamber of Commerce of wherever whatever region or whatever sort of municipality or me to Sally’s and actually help that like what you’re you can’t you know you can’t afford your Public Works projects you know your new parks are being closed down for whatever reason well here we got the screws it’s going to be amazing yeah I can see it now and start building and I’m almost filling my gas tank to start driving out there right now I can of gas its people have been wanting you know it’s been it’s been on my not just a to-do list but actually really it’s it’s it’s the lot a lot of the stuff is is I can see it happening and also I I I want to if it’s not already being taken for some other obviously a worthy cause I feel like the love Free or Die state is going to be the hashtag that I talk to Subway to get a handle on that it’s all you it’s you if you can take that and run with it if she if it works but I feel like that’s good it’s the best I feel like you have a lot of love but I like a lot of love yeah I know I feel it I feel I feel you said you were a Healer and you seem you seem like very empathetic yeah this won’t this to me you know all of the trauma that I have witnessed that I’ve experienced ice I can imagine that this is would be a place for people that veteran died literally I mean you know they call it in the adult industry we say that you’re a civilian if you’re not in front of you in if you’re not in front of the camera and doing the stuff for on the street or wherever you’re a civilian and so if that’s the case which I really truly believe it is then we need to have VA programs in hospitals in a note and benefits and we’re doing a public service for helping living out everyone’s fantasies for them if they don’t have the courage or the resources to make them happen so for that I like to be treated with this much if not you know as much love and respect and dignity and resources as veterans violence and brutality in Warfare civilians is military yeah that’s cool yeah and we aren’t we aren’t we know we were lying about reliving some sort of childhood, it wasn’t about servitude or Surrender sometimes it was just the process to the session would be the process to get to the Aftercare to get to that hug to get to that approval of being told you did a good job you know and when I realize that I thought there’s so much more I’ve actually I’ve had plenty of clients for a while there it was kind of weird they were widows widowers their wearers like I was attacking little words that were in various ways and people don’t understand that Sexual Energy can be incredibly therapeutic and healing you know when there’s something fundamentally wrong with that especially you know I mean now I mean Dairy mention you know I mean every day and I just kept having these handmade in handmaid’s tale things going through my mind and and now to be apart of Swap and to be keto on the inside track knowing what’s going on with this legislation here to decriminalize effort I am filled with hope and love all over again no more despair or fear I feel like this could really I meant to be alive right now at this time and to be here and now in this state I feel very very honored and lucky absolutely why I feel very honored and lucky that we are having this conversation you were exactly the voice of the representative that I wanted to find and connect with its in this is really an amazing amazing invigorating conversation and I just I just want to thank you again so much and you know we’ve got a little bit of time left I think we covered most of what I was super excited and looking forward to discussing I guess I would like to ask if you want to talk about the kind of support that you need from people in the area from people abroad people anywhere in the world listening to this but what what do you need to help your chapter really get to the to the point where were you have all your dreams are coming true and you know you have the people power and the skill sets what were you what are your pain points and what do you need so that that can just be put out there and it is a prayer absolutely absolutely awesome and I’m sex worker Outreach project is a nonprofit we do accept donations we accept recurring donations donations I mean just to be an ally to a sex worker to be supportive and you know aware that their work is real work and emotionally laboring work to know the sex work as a form of emotional and physical labor and that nobody story is is representative of all sex where you know and I think that the presence of sex workers in social movement come together and try to fight this and you have to fight what gone but it is a tubal refuse up sex workers bank accounts and it’s happened the money seems suspicious that’s unacceptable yeah yeah that’s you that’s the way to to bypass So Many Factors whether it’s the pimp violence or the banks or the state or even Amazon not wanting your wishlist to be you know used for compensation whatever it is the terms that you have to been in bed will I have to say that the my biggest public service announcement for anybody that might be in your network who listens to this is that I really hope that anyone listening who is a sex worker who has the u.s. exposed to these Financial choke point issues invest time in studying the whole cryptocurrency movement starting with Bitcoin and in aetherium but but you can accelerate that process if you start to look into joining the platform of spankchain which is bringing together all of the activism all of the the really Advanced cryptocurrency solutions for being your own bank literally being your own bank where you have peer-to-peer Financial transactions you can sell they will be yeah they will be providing a lot of solutions for the industry and for the producers and performers to be empowered independently and off the rails of the money system we don’t need to do our dirty work without your dirty Fiat is how I feel McGregor’s Outreach project we have like a meme donation thing you can donate cooked difference NFL Karma Dakshin and and how how sex workers are the difference between trafficking educate yourself some people have been looking for what seems like an ideal future to me or all of the the glory and the beauty of the healing in the transformation that is possible and also the the sort of in the streets marches and the activism going to take to get there and a couple of I guess you’re silly but up at the memes have come to me and one is it you know people I remember chanting in the streets protesting Wars and logging and you all kinds of pollution would not the people we would always chant whose streets are our streets and I can hear this echoing Cruise sheets are seeds coming out with our seats and then you can also got allies and civilians involved right thing that ever since I started looking into it swapped but I’ve ever felt like we’ll all of the the Financial Funding necessary to do real political work lobbying in legislation and all that stuff I feel like there’s got to be a way to solicit the the buyers of sex work the purchasers of the material that the funeral of the client’s right of the clients are you so mean maybe PornHub can put a donate button to swap you know somewhere I mean set stuff like that I would love to see the financing for all of the stuff that you have in your bucket list of dreams to make come true for this industry and for this movement that that the money if the people who can afford to pay for their further their fetish or for their experience or for their media everybody and you know what I mean I come from the the green business Eco business startup kind of seen in in LA and it was a no-brainer that you would want to launch your startup having a dollar of every purchase or a percentage of your purpose so that you could have the the pr potential of putting out press releases were you talk about how you give back as a social impact or I mean even PornHub has done a lot of cool stuff like that and I don’t mean to keep harping on them but because they’re the biggest conglomerate really that the industry absolutely and you know that they’re behind them right that I was either going to let my contact continue to be over there in cream to the channel myself because it because you know we can continue and have more follow-ups to this conversation but I certainly would love to explore some of your insights in the industry and I have some yes yeah I wanted to add you know how that Whole Foods you know if you have to you have to be a squeaky wheel gets the grease and House of weird that you were is this is thrilling to me I know that there’s a there’s worse things in the world than having pornstars solicit you on your doorstep like door-to-door canvassing for help me on Monday to take your singing telegrams you know what the my name is you could use the conservative rhetoric against him and say we’re here to clean up the adult industry sign here and give us a check what do you mean well I know where else next workers never would never when they used to pack meat and the muckrakers had to blow the whistle and that’s how we have ratio any conservative how do I I subscribed to say the r word regulation but I will say any sort of public outcry about working conditions that’s all we need you know and Industry within the industry of people like you who know what performers need what the issues are and can represent that and it’s not coming top down it’s not coming from you know sideswiping from weird organizations with too much money trying to push agendas where they don’t belong and some people know what I’m talking about there and some people don’t but it’s what they did with the keywords you know trafficking of course people wanted to sign off on that piece of aeon I support you know anti-trafficking laws of course I do and so what we could do is we could eat give them a dose of their own medicine like you said hi we’re going to clean up your industry and fine hair like that cuz that’s how they do so many things when they say you know that people don’t read the fine print when they when they sign initiatives to get on the ballot you know they read the sort of sensationalist headline that skews the facts to some moral kind of you get boxed in Morley by the by the by the headline of whatever it is and so that it’s it’s like appealing to logical fallacies for anyone to want to do that but yeah I mean this is really it’s actually truly the holiest and most most sort of medic there’s there’s a way for all of the people to I mean excellent performers have the legal space to do this right then then the medical aspect will I think it’s going to naturally organically become a safer environment if you’re not having to be underground in the hide from you know the the filming commission and fucking cops and at the neighbors and you could actually have facilities that work up Captain staff and you know and fungus were like just clean to the places I mean that’s what people say about the all of those secondary crime things that go along with Vice and things being underground and the black market economy you know if when you when you legalize drugs all of those secondary cramps go away and so this is a war on sex and we need to end the war on drugs and the war on sex and these problems will sell themselves in the free market so it’s going to happen New Hampshire you know get ready full medical benefits of cannabis right and I’m actually is for you I think what will happen is that is that is that the Cheeto person will get a reverse gangbang by a bunch of Tantra see the goddess and he will want to transform United States into one giant orgiastic goddess Temple to heal the planet from all the patriarchy that’s my that’s my vote I’m going to put that are you trying to turn me on now I try I try not to but sometimes I can’t help it it just happens thank you for that well yeah so we it’s been one of the most delightful hours of my life at sharing this time with you and I’d like to ask you now to give us the links to everything that you want to share and that you’re involved with and close this out with some final words calls-to-action slogans from the front lines whatever you like to share please take your time. Thank you it’s been an honor and I’m I’m I’m pretty sure my cheeks are going to hurt from smiling too so that’s as wot USA. O r g basically you where you can find me I just would like to do everything I can and vegetation Security building in Albuquerque beautiful thank you awesome alright I see well yeah let’s let’s call it a podcast and let’s be in touch and I will I will be in touch again very soon thank you so much and have a wonderful evening. Smiley and you’re coming over here thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Guerilla Yoga with Survival Wombyn Jazmin TPP167

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In this podcast I’m joined by Jazmin, a yoga instructor, community organizer, activist, bookstore owner. She’s a social media friend who has become a heroine to me as she shares some of my deepest and dearest roots in the ecological anarchism movement. Her spiritual activism and activist spirituality are sincerely humbling and it was very healing and invigorating to explore her insights and feel proud to earn her respect.

We discuss:

  • guerilla yoga
  • decentralized yoga
  • racial politics in radical movements
  • political prisoners
  • state repression
  • modeling
  • camming
  • sex work
  • cryptocurrency
  • college life
  • community space
  • cooperatives
  • patriarchy
  • gender politics
  • the survival wombyn eco-educational modeling project
  • and more!

Here is the link to her Survival Wombyn profile page:
https://survivalwombyn.com/jazmin/

About Jazmin:

I embody a yoga practice that is at the intersection of holistic wellness and social justice activism. My yoga practice, is diverse and ever-evolving. In the past five years, yoga played a significant role in my personal development and transformation. I am living proof that disciplined empathy for yourself,  will change how you show up and interact in the world.

I am passionate about supporting all communities, this includes those communities who often have limited access to personal care and holistic resources.  It is my intention to build bridges, weaving among diverse groups, sprinkling yoga as I go. My intention is to empower people to cultivate a more holistic relationship to themselves and the Earth. Meditation and yoga are the practices I utilize to embody actions for radical personal and collective transformation.
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My paypal email is:
jazminfrancescayoga [at] gmail [dot].com

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township on podcast episode number 167 I am extremely excited in just grinning from ear-to-ear because I have Jasmine as a guest on the show and this is the the very exciting Adventures background that I have to to lead up to our conversation she has been a friend of mine on social media now for probably a good many moons and also a listener of the podcast and it’s always a treat for me to just find out that random different people from all over the world that are tuning in and getting something positive and empowering from this and to have somebody step up and just kind of time in really is affirming for me so it’s like wipe she goes by the name black girl affirming on Instagram and I feel like she’s helped this white boy give a little back formation and if I says so it’s been fun yeah we’ve we just had a bancer online and there was a time of you know I would say that that the cheat sheet she gets my heart racing and as I see your posts and and she’s easy on the eyes and all that good stuff and you know but I wouldn’t have I wouldn’t have crossed the line of propositioning her to be hired as a model I don’t want to end up using that as like a unprofessional Shady pick-up line you know but but I was compelled to be like damn I got to know if you’d be willing to take money for some of these pictures if you’re shipping because you’ve got you know the vibe that I’m going for them looking for as far as women who are empowered and have a story to tell and are doing cool things in the world that are inspiring and and also being willing to play with erotic energy and actually engage in and share a bit of them to set themselves in an erotic matter with the world and so whenever I see that whenever I see those two things together it it it makes me want to reach out in that way but so that the the real what makes me so ridiculously happy right now is to talk about this is is to describe that moment where I saw the one little Instagram clip little video clip that that push me over the edge and it was this a scene with a beautiful like small kind of Creek little waterfall Rock somewhere in a lovely Forest environment and there she was burying her fairness to the world from a nice full backside kind of perspective in and she’s first facing forward or you’re facing away from the camera and then there’s is very slow very meticulous and methodical turning over head towards the camera so naked and had her turning over her shoulder and then there is the absolutely most mischievous yet playful and somehow Innocent but it totally inviting look like I’ve never felt so invited to anything and end but it’s left to your imagination so it could be that you are you’re invited to also take her clothes off and get in the water or you’re invited to just sort of let your imagination roll and and I I think I was in that moment just feeling like this is the quintessential expression that if only women in the world were permitted and facilitated and in in secured and inhaled safe to be able to be able to express it as they want to be then then there will be a lot more of these beautiful moments for a cell to for taken and nothing in for all genders and for all Expressions you know to feel like hey this is me you know here I am love it or leave it whatever and son is just so many it’s worth a thousand words and I’m and I’m going to use a screenshot as the as the the assertive profile photo for this episode so anybody listening please do yourself a favor and and get a deep download a deep deep Country transmission from this photo it says like this is how we all could be living you know naked men like trans McKenna said we know where we really want to be is in the jungle sitting in the jungle naked stoned and exalted and and that’s how I want to live so you know with all the with all that said a couple little things here is that Jasmine is a yoga instructor a community organizer activist and a bookstore owner and and she will be one of the very first survival women models for the new website that I’m launching at mentioned a few times in the past and and we’ll get in to kind of the the the thinking behind that and how we you know we’re going to collaborate to really changed shifts and paradigms in a really fun and empowered way so we’ll get into that later but for now just wanted to say thank you for bearing with the too long intro and Jasmine is going to know take over and lead us on a nice some grounding kind of intro and then we’ll get to hear all about her in her own words a band that was beautiful and so honored to be on this podcast with you today and I just want to take a couple of moments to kind of ground and center before we get the chatting so I invite anyone who is listening to this to find a comfortable seat if you can’t find a comfortable seat that’s fine to invite you to close your eyes if you’re not driving just began to turn in and word and Bill the contrast of the heaviness of the body and the likeness of your breath maybe you take your tongue to the top of the mouth so you create a nice little part between your lips and your teeth and I hope your breathing slowly begin to let your ex house become a little bit longer than your in house maybe you call when your favorite see it to you right now where energy or spirit that you like to work with whenever you’re ready believe again. The eyes flutter open and bring yourself back into this moment all right Manny ready I’m ready I am so ready I was born ready for this cool so yeah tell us all about your personal life journey to lead us up to this lovely moment they were sharing Barry as well I am from a small rural town and you know I’m one of those places where there’s not much to do besides getting in trouble so I’m actually really blessed that somehow that my past was a lot different from a lot of the kids that I grew up with and I think a lot of that had to do with like the the matriarchal family I was brought up in had a strong grandmother even though during this time so I kind of just thought she was really strict she’s actually creating like structure that a lot of children crave to start at 6 and set three light and three growing up with her she put me into an early college high school so I graduated high school at 17 with an associates degree I went off to go to college I graduated college it’s Manny with a ba in political science college for about five years now so I’m 25 and most people would just be graduating college right now but when I graduated college like a lot of people kind of experience this like shifting your like like where you feel like okay now what and during that now what phase is when I begin my yoga Journey my yoga practice and that was five and a half years ago and a lot has changed but the one constant has always been my ability to come back to my map and for that I’m really grateful and I think have self-discipline through my practice has really shaped and mold me into the woman I am today so yeah that’s fabulous your accelerated I love it there are these moments of acceleration where you’re like you kind of like blink and then like a years have gone by and then you have these moments where I like things kinda Canfield. But really that’s just the time of resting there to be honored to you know right on yeah that’s that’s very interesting is this the first time I’ve heard of a program of a high school where you could actually be getting credit towards College simultaneously that sounds like a very opportune in yeah I would love to see that via the way for people to be more empowered and more set up and I have to reinvent the wheel so much with so many wasted hours if monotony and rote learning and all that stuff so yeah how was your college experience it’s kind of a shitshow I think up until that point I had been like so sheltered and really like a nerd for lack of better words you know it’s kind of cool now but back then it didn’t feel too cool so when I got the college and I was like by myself like any country girl who finally gets to the city, but I was able to keep it together enough so I can walk across that stage tell us more about the wildness if I can’t imagine what you mean by that College was a great experience in the sense that that was the first time I had really look like I had an opportunity to like really explore like black urban culture like I said I am an African-American woman and I grew up in a rule town and many of my school years I was often like one of maybe like three black kids so is a culture shock in that way and you know I’m forever grateful for those times like the relationships in The Sisterhood that created really like been lifelong friendship and he has so many of the people I went to school there doing incredible things here in the area that we lived in especially in the activist and organizing community so I’ll go ahead and I’m going to mention this I hope she’s okay with me mention this I have a friend named glow who was a part of the Charlotte Uprising if you’re not familiar with the Charlotte Uprising it was a series of a protest that were triggered by the the police killing of an unarmed black man and weather has been really in transit in that movement and is facing felony charges for conspiracy and like starting a riot and all these like what does Tactics with the state uses to impress black voices honestly and so if anybody wants to support glow you can support her at like Charlotte Uprising on Facebook figure out how you feel like donate to her legal defense funds and yeah and so like all of us and now we’re like out here doing this like activist work and back then if you knew you would never think we would be the ones like on the front lines protesting because back then we’re more concerned about partying but you know well that’s best music to my ears. I definitely had a similar experience yeah but partying and getting political and political partying it for being a little more on the for me you know I’m the anarchists kind of spectrum of just wanting to break down break down all the organized religions and all the organized political systems and get really really raw and him back to the roots and I know ya without disclosing your your whereabouts exactly I know that there is a I mean we have good good very deeply nature connected kind of movements that we that we both share so yeah Anarchy for life oh yeah so good part owner of is an anarchist bookstore so we we we focus a lot and Anarchist literature and having a very diverse selection of authors and you know Octavia Butler you know emergent strategy and brown Bell hooks You Name It We got it has been a really good experience for me I thought I was bad until I like teamed up and started doing this and I was like well I could be way more rider that’s awesome it sounds like it’s kind of a Cooperative kind of structure is at how do you how do you do that it’s just really interesting and really this I’d love to spend some time on this because a 25 year old entrepreneur in that space but also doing it in a minute in a more collectivized sense where you’re not trying to always be the lone rock star or you know carrying all the weight by having a healthy business Dynamic where you’re serving the community and your hopefully you know appealing yourself away from the working for the man you know and making living it’s doing things right so how is that you want to tell us about it just a Dynamics in so people can get a good get inspired to do some other things a lot of people are starting to wake up to you it’s the idea that you really can’t do it all by yourself you know like we’re so removed from like community that it’s just so much to take on especially when you look at the state of the world now that you can be really depressing if you try to like fix everything by yourself and so I think like working with a proper dose is been really like therapeutic for me like the bonds that I’ve built but these people but you know in a traditional work setting maybe have like a cold and you’re just really not feeling up to par but you might not necessarily have that intimate connection to just be like you know what like I would like to give 100% today but you might get 75 and this is why I not feel judged for it because we we don’t prioritize our work as like in a sense of like a capitalist labor mentality like our work is more of a in the sense of service start Unity so yeah I love that I have the ability to like lean into that a lot and I think it’s something that’s really missing but you know I’m we talked about entrepreneurship I feel that that’s been the white one of the cornerstones of my generation is just being like you know I really don’t want to do the nine-to-five thing is like forever confused when I let got a college about like why I was so depressed and so miserable and these jobs and it’s because they’re not normal you’re not in it so like an office desk or Worse do you like hard manual labor for like hours of a day and like get like an hour break has not normal it just doesn’t make sense to me when I started linking up with like-minded people I was like Oh My Tribe thank God I’ve been looking everywhere for you guys. I feel exactly the same way and I was just having a conversation just about the drudgery and the sort of repackage slavery in a lot of people you know you would have more of a deeper authentic voice on this issue the me one of the ways to think that people lose sight of just the process of building Empire in Civilization is that you know the The Branding on slavery has changed and their arguments have been made you know you can audit them better than I but just saying that essentially the it was in some way some people would argue I’ve heard the argument that that no slaves who do the slave labor have to earn in Spain money for rent and room and board and all of these other Aldi’s Aldi’s other necessities of life that that were provided in so-called traditional or official slavery now the trick on everybody and not the least of which being the freed slaves is that oh you’re free now but you still are under the impressive system still have institutionally disadvantaged and marginalized in the whole pyramid of privilege is still a pressing and on top of that now you have to pay rent now you have all these other bosses in oppressors and it’s like the only way to break free from all that is to do what you’re talkin about which is collectivize and share resources in and work for working with each other and serve a community in an end then you can really be free of of having to feel pressure to work for somebody else’s you know Empire to even survive I don’t know how that sounds you know if I’m using the right language but curious about your thoughts very deep question when I when I hear you speak up a couple of things come to mind me I think I like I wouldn’t be the first person to say like today’s caplis labor is slavery I would attribute more of that like modern slavery slavery to like the prison industrial complex just because like I mean the way those people are treated in prison is just absolutely disgusting you know I am a part of a collective that collects books for prisoners and like they can’t even get hardback books like there’s so many regulations on like what they’re allowed to even read in prison that. Feels like that’s very much like like somebody having like literal control of your life where I think you know in like capless America like traditional Society like we do have like a lot of leeway in that sense but other thing that came to mind was you know how the system of capitalism rely so heavily on when men and women’s bodies right because ultimately we are the people who reproduce the workers are right and that’s something that really came to me and that the way that like our government tries to regulate women’s bodies is so deeply High to capitalism. if you want to talk about women’s Liberation we have to talk about the dismantlement of the system that no longer is working for us you know yeah yeah those are really really important points I’m glad you brought them up and they had those are whole whole topics for whole other episodes that I will definitely have you a recurring guest in knowing when we so now there anybody listening to understand why you know why I’m so thrilled to have someone with this level of insight to to be on the show and to bring help me come back to a more radical more more insurrectionary even kind of attitude towards the system and you know I’m really not here to to put on rose colored glasses and make everybody into Township Bliss bunnies that just Frolic and leap over all of the Shadow work that needs to be done so she had sex magic which is like I would love to see a people’s movement rooted in spiritual health and sexual Liberation and that didn’t happen a lot I mean even I know the Black Panthers were were systematically terrorized by the FBI and they would even implant it wouldn’t plant home-wrecking informants and in Plants insiders to actually fuck with people using jealousy and using the tactics of of like really Mike fucked-up monogamous drama to fucking ruin the movement and say okay if you had resilient sexual magical tantric tribes maybe that shitt wouldn’t work maybe they’d have to go through 74 initiations I know even the The Weather Underground SDs that was more of a of a white kind of elite more elitist and white kind of movement that they would do homosexual initiations to not that I know exactly all of the historical details about it but I believe that the thinking was that to break down the structures of patriarchy that they would they would in some places require a sort of homosexual kind of initiation and that probably also was a way to say oh you do you know any if you’re a cop in the room raise your hand okay now now you have to like stripped naked and join this orgy otherwise you know your we’re going to know your I don’t know if that anyway I could there’s so much to learn about about these about this movement so again I just I think we’re going to have lots of fun on going you know exploring the stuff and I’ll just leave it there for now but yeah go ahead. I will shut myself up and you know it when we were talking about like you know like the FBI using like jealousy and like these like like kind of Primal like Musa kind of fuck was like I was really lucky to do you like an all-day group intensive workshop with Alice Walker and if you’re familiar with her she’s the author of The Color Purple in search of our mothers Gardens you really famous Friday and my question for her was like how do I continue to show up as a community organizer as activist and like take care of myself at the same time and her response was you have to heal yourself first before you can show up in that capacity so you know especially with like Daris amen if you’re not doing that emotional labor like you’ll you’ll get you’ll get there like you you’ll make strides but you it can be easily triggered and this I told if you’re not working on things like jealousy and you know like these Primal energy that can be really a distraction at times yeah that is that’s great advice well we’ll so now it’s okay so I’m just so thrilled because normally did to this is I mean I’ll say that there is a lot of well well meant and really justifiable tension and hostility between and among the genders and sexes in radical communities because there is so many creditors that go into like direct-action campaign and end up trying to you know he’ll actually a lot of those people are are the cops I got to give away a dead giveaway is at the agitators who were sent in there and if they’re not actually trained it call Monica or whatever they’re actually just sort of people that may be a flipping and doing the sort of treacherous and traitors stuff of being maybe they got busted for having a joint and then they said hey go and fuck with that that direct-action campaign and we’ll let you off or whatever but you know I’ve seen those kind of people and they come in and they are the ones who were trying to sexually manipulate and violate women and to create that sort of drama so you know too too kind of frame this discussion little bit around the sexuality you know the ideal of sexual Liberation in radical communities and then the sort of shadow of How It’s in some places we can create Anarchy especially like deep in the forest when they’re did say they are far away the system is actually far away and then there’s a lot of you know enforce the fence campaigns that I was involved with there were rapes and molestation and abuse has and there would be the sort of tribalism of the you know bands of Brothers kind of breaking off and fighting the women who were really literally fighting for their lives and fighting for the forest because it’s all that stuff so you’re taking a very bold step from that away from that that more siloed and hostile attitude towards me because you could have really been like who the fuck is his douchey white dude talking about you know all this Liberation stuff and in a part of that is very true but you’ve been you know forgiving and being an open to me and now we’re having this conversation about what’s really going to be me taking the fruits of my heart labor and that the money in my pocket and just handing it over to you handsome amounts to take pic nude pictures of yourself in nature and some sort of exploiting you sexually but I’m also empowering you financially and so and you’ve done some webcamming so how about you take over just tell us about wet what’s X work with looks like from your paradigm you know one Brad like I kind of like have like a load for you know these patriarchal white supremacist capitalist system as Bell hooks so I can call it but in the same breath you know when there’s been times where I like I had to happen so that survival instincts and I had like one guy asked me one time he was like am I the victim or the victimizer and the truth is we’re but you know like I think you have to have a certain amount of street-smart to to be able to like use what naturally you have to like to take it to the next level or to financially take care of yourself and support yourself but you know sex work is the oldest work in the world and is not going anywhere and there have been times where like white douchey man have all we like helps me like maybe pay for like tuition for college shirt and this and that and that and it was very much it felt like a mutual exchange it’s really hard to talk about monetizing or like what your body is worth but I would just always encourage women who are like in this in this fail to like don’t load don’t lie sell yourself you know like take care make sure you’re making enough to take care of yourself first and foremost I think when that’s feeling of like it being a mutual exchange starts to like kind of waiver then that’s when we start talking about like maybe this is more of self harm than it is actual good and that’s up to each person’s own discernment like what feels Mutual for you like how how do you value yourself and then there’s been times when I was camping and people would be like they say the meanest things and get tell me I was charging too much and doing this and doing that and I can be a lot on your self-esteem but I just encourage you to stick to your guns because those people naturally weed themselves out for sure for sure well I’m I’m feeling that I’m feeling that very deeply and you know if I have one sort of claim to I guess my is there’s a there’s a lot of white guilt kind of Shadow behavior in the activists Progressive funeral ft world and green left it kind of world and you know I’ve I guess a lot of people who have that white guilt have strategies of ways to try to minimize the amount of privilege that they have on paper so they’ll you know come up with ways that they are also oppressed and you know I will also be enough for me and I feel like there is some it’s a struggle and it is it’s a real thing and I feel like it’s a it’s an appropriate internal battle to have about like what is my role on this continent what is my role in this hemisphere you know what the going to be in service or am I going to be a parasite on you know all of the indigenous people in the land and I’m trying you don’t go into that struggle and I would say that you know the one thing that that is legitimate about my sort of being able to claim that I have some impressions of my own is that I have that background is like a street-walking sex worker as a minor you know an inn that I had said to be able to so you know I’ve seen some horrific things in Android some things and that doesn’t make me on the level with a lot of other people by any means but we can at least talk about that from a you know from a I can talk about that from a place of humility in place of having been there and Having learned Street smarts in until I understand like exactly you’re talking about is it you know there is well how would you how would you feel about this argument the sort of sick Pro sex work feminist argument that you know what to put it put it briefly as just that well you know if the feminist who are saying that you’re selling out the feminist movement by serving the crude sexual desires of these men do you know I don’t deserve it and and what not there I see. I see the validity in those points but then the counter argument that I I really like is the one where where women who are sex workers have in each type c see things in a feminist Missy will look at what you’re doing with your body like you’re doing something that could probably get you killed or get you injured you working at a factory that’s prostitution to I’m just being sexy and feeling good in my body and yeah I got to do with some Trolls but you know hey at least I’m doing something very sustainable which is making myself you know as long as I’m hydrated I can just squirt all day and make more money yeah go for something interesting to you were talking about like like from a place of like privilege like what is your role in this world and like honestly like I I feel so blessed in my life that I often times Bill even as a woman of color when I look at like the the global Community as a whole like I am in a place of privilege right and so when we talked about like the larger like our larger Community is it our goals to like if you’re in a place of privilege to kind of full other people up with you like a thank you note capitalism kind of has a backwards cuz it’s like oh like the people at the top will give the poor people stuff right but like what if we like all like collectively were like just like uplifting and like helping each other so yeah I had to deal with some Trolls but ultimately it was what privilege we’re giving me the money and they’re for helping me like with myself up right and now I’m in this position where I can do the same thing for other people even though it’s not in the span of sex work anymore you know random thought sorry please preach on I’m riveted in in a very yeah it’s like this is a really really important kind of thumb conversation that probably you don’t hear to have to just sit a regular Starbucks you know thank you for space so how about telling us more about just your connection to Nature your other other aspects of your character and personality that you’re developing and and then really what you what you were if you were a theoretically to receive a lot of financial tributes and tips and donations ultimately through the the project that we’re going to both to get to talkin about in a little bit but I want to definitely just give you time to talk more about the depth of your character and really what your passions are and what what you’re doing with the means that you have and what you would do if you had a sudden influx of really like serious abundance to to take things all to the next level and so we can kind of go on a journey with you and an imaginary thank you thank you for asking so where I feel most and called to be in service to you as I’m I’m bringing yoga to underserved communities I think it’s really interesting that you know we look at the book The Western version of like yoga culture that is supposed to be rooted in like thieves like carbonetic acts of service but often times like it’s just missed the most are the community sit actually are need of these holistic resources the most and I think you know as a woman of color I feel maybe I feel more confident walking into the projects are the ghettos or the hoods and just setting up my yoga mat and doing my thing and seeing who you like stops and talks to me along the way so if I had like an influx of abundance which I will I’m going to call that in right now I would probably invest and buying more yoga mats and yoga props so I can have like my little van and just go around the different projects and get us and hoods and do pop-up yoga and not charge people money for it yeah it’s something that I it’s really interesting to me like how in America we even found the way it’s like monetize off of it like a like a like a yoga practice like me but is this and I understand people have to pay their bills but I feel like for me even with like the bookstore that I work at and I’m a worker owner at is I don’t make the most money but it’s from such a deep place of service I feel like I’m the richest person in the world and I think that mentality that mentality of the abundance has really served me on my journey so if I had an influx of abundant that’s what I would do with it I would invest and my props and maybe buy a van and deck it out hippie style and just drive around to these communities and show love and show gratitude for them and it’s just that interesting to me about the communities that are in need of like the holistic resources the most are often times the ones that have the most like limited access to it and I find that deeply troubling in the starving and I want to be a part of the solution and as a woman of color who feels like they’re in the space of privilege at times I feel like I honestly would be doing a disservice to my soul and this lifetime if I did not take this role on and if I did not take it seriously well I’m giggling and tearing up right now because it’s I just love it so much and can actually I could have this thought came into my mind is this phrase that I hope you will take it and run with it if it if it drives with you because I’ve never heard it before and I don’t know if it’s you know I’m afraid to Google it cuz it’s probably already a huge movement it’s already got books and websites everything but I have never heard these two words together but in this conversation it’s like this is this is what I hope you will claim and an impacted rhysand is the words gorilla yoga or cruelly yogini it sounds like with that van is going to be all about and I know I’ve been a Guerilla Gardener and a gorilla media activist and everybody uses that word kind of tosses it around for different things and guerrilla marketing that’s a book you know it’s a whole the whole I don’t know if I called a movement but it it probably isn’t movement within marketing and I in the book is is a guerrilla tactics is just that the underdog if people aren’t familiar it’s it’s really just the archetype of people who are even America would be considered to be based on guerrilla warfare tactics because they weren’t fighting you know in marching lines and drumming and you know giving away their position they were sniping from the trees and you know we have a proud history anyone who you know worships the flag if that’s your thing you got to be paying homage to Guerrilla tactics so I love what you’re talking about and people do flash Bob yoga stuff like that so you know that if I feel like that’s going to be at least the title of this episode is now going to be gorilla yoga with survival women Jasmine and both of us kind of have like a glove for cryptocurrencies and one of the ideas that have came to my mind is decentralized Yoga right like so you don’t need a studio like you don’t like you don’t need a bank for cryptocurrency beer and yoga studio are you going to go see her right so like yeah I like this I like this movement feel like decentralized most things awesome well okay well I’m getting chills and this is just getting better and better so I will say that yeah if if you don’t mind I’d like to spend a few minutes just kind of bringing you can have to speed Indian people who are listening or going to get the the sort of real-time one of the first now actually kind of relieved through looks into what the what the survival woman project is is now really shaping up to be how the mechanics of it are looking like they’re going to work out and because you were proposition by me you know now it’s been a few months you know have just been kind of dabbling and whether or not I wanted to move forward with this and knowing that it was sort of a a my my Dharma the the focus I want it take to move forward with this is how the survival women modeling project that I feel qualified you know and hello sir. I think we first broke up relationship I’ve ever been we’re going to have a makeup conversation now and cool but yeah so so back to the survival admin thing I would like to just kind of give you the full informed consent overview in and we can get in this moment actually just share thoughts and you can really it’s it’s going to evolve to wear well I’ll just I’ll just take a little take one breast and and try to lay it out as succinctly as if in an elevator doing an elevator picture what is sometimes called stuck in elevator pitch cuz I attempted to go on with these things but I am not going to name names here but they’re there are other modeling Enterprises out there that that I think have done a great job to bring forward the the alt modeling mystique and aesthetic and I and II praise and honour all of the all of the other entrepreneurs in his face and so I’m not going to say that I’m trying to do something better be be if you know anybody down but I will say that I believe the evolution of using Electronic media to to sell and to profit from women’s bodies that it can be done in a way that is a triple bottom line benefit Corporation when when when you know all of that good sort of thumb social impact kind of thinking and and an engineering that from a technical perspective using cryptocurrency what what I’m currently literally in the middle of developing with teams of developers all over the world I’m kind of shopping around bidding projects for different development and design aspects of this but what it comes down to is that I feel that there’s there’s well-established an existing models now for you know for sure there’s something called giveth. IO which is the aetherium Smart contract based way for people to do crowd Source funding to support charitable type of works and projects all over the world for people who are unbanked and who would be marginalized and probably choked out the nonprofit sector and it’s formal sense and so really anybody with the mission and a purpose and a plan can start to connect with these platforms now that cryptocurrency based and get attention and in crowdfunding and they don’t have to do the sketchy Ico SEC kind of taunting route of the lot of people getting in trouble for it just kind of like no deliverables no investing into a future of earnings of a company or any of those those tricky legal traps but you straight up taping people and I think that the the gift economy is really proving itself out and in the Tipping economy is and you would know that an old people and a sex work in history who know people just hit and run you with hundreds of dollars are thousands of dollars as tribute for nothing like they don’t even ask you to do anything or say anything or wear anything or send them your underwear or nothing they just go away I like I like your Vibe I like your style here it is I got to run to work but like take some money in in the crypto world at the the scope of that type of tipping and gifting is is is just astronomical so I’m out there trying to wire together this website framework to create an opportunity for establish models in the high-end you know La modeling industry because they are actually very very accessible very easy and fun to work with very professional mostly and and very open-minded and I’m having great success and and luck and Fortune working with very established model some of them having tens if not hundreds of thousands of followers and social media and all it’s going to take to light this Wildfire match to bring up all of the women of the world I believe you are willing to step into this platform you know the balance that I’m trying to strike here is that if the established models of the world get on board with this platform has some of them already have enthusiastically I might add in for you know very good rates like I’m I’m paying well and and and I’m paying more than the industry standard for very established people and they also gives you know that if if all it takes is for any of them to proudly display their association with his project and that will create what I believe to be an influx of interest and enthusiasm that will very rapidly trickle-down to those people in need women around the world who have a smartphone internet connection but maybe no money and no bank and no way to comply with them whatever the other web platforms are required in a required to do so there’s already a yeah there’s already yogini in Mexico who is going to do her introduction video for this project in Spanish with subtitles and yes I feel like the the the there are other people in crypto who are pushing the limits of sexy and sex work and spankchain is is part of that you know paradigm-shifting crypto camming kind of platform building Frontier that that that New Horizon of the technological shift and and everybody goes if the Arium Geeks man there so there such sweethearts and there’s some of the most endearing men that I have seen you know at least online some of them I’ll be meeting more closely soon but I really feel like that that the 1% that that the Occupy Movement was fighting there’s a new 1% and they’re all crypto anarchists and lot of them are there Libertarians in there Circle calculus which made me cringe for a while but now I see that they need us as much as we need them and some of them are into Ayahuasca and some of them are you know into burning man and stuff like that so I really feel like you know the the frustrated desire of all of these dudes jerking off to porn and not having an authentic and legitimate connection to the women that they were pleasuring themselves to if we give them the opportunity to tip and to support and to connect with whether it’s from camming to what I believe with the survival in Project is going to be mostly G-rated family-friendly stuff works like you know let your imagination do the work like these women are not always going to be you no teasing you teasing your cock you know so I get over it but we’re bored concerned with is that we have we build a brand that is not going to be limited by XXX you know flagging online and not going to have all that just over the top stuff I’ve been there a day that is very tedious and very kind of nerve-wracking to try to have to be compliant with all that stuff so you know what that said my my proposal really now to you and you were one of the first ones again to kind of reinvigorate me on this is that you know I would love to see a transfer of power once I can bootstrap this with my own money that I make literally working in Beverly Hills in Malibu you know working on landscapes for rich clients and take taking that money in living frugally and taking the percentage of that money and put it into hiring models to get us up the ground what it will eventually lead to is a situation where through the blockchain technology the models themselves will be will be facilitating the flow of of capital through this through the platform and then to know the trip like you said ringing other people up and raising other people up to the collective collectivization of well if you know in power and privilege it’s it’s really going to get to a point where I step away almost like Satoshi and say here is the brain work and it’s like you all it’s you it’s you you’re all stitute to run with and to you so you know that’s how I protect myself from being seduced by power and being too you know having a Founder complex and stuff is that you can build a platform and you can with crypto and blockchain walk away from it and let the users really control the destiny of it as a decentralized application and it’s going to start off with a bit of centralization to to get it you know it’s it’s hatching and its wings and out of the nest and so did Bitcoin so did everything else that there is a crucial. Where you have to take on a little bit extra responsibility but but yeah you are definitely one of the you know the keys to the queendom I’m going to just like Hannah be handing them over and and that’s that’s that’s my verbal kind of Mile High verbal white paper kind of reviews how do you get if you can now take over from from where I just left off with that and let me know how you feel about that and and yeah it will we will be creating a lot of fun stuff together and in the process moving forward came to mind as he were speaking for me on for synchronicity I’ve always kind of considered myself to be really intuitive and I remember when I first started learning about cryptocurrencies I wasn’t quite sure like how it would look but I knew that this would be something that would really like set me up for the rest of my life and you know when I first start listening to your podcast and became your friend I never in a million years would think like these two things would like I’ve realized in a way that they are like overlapping so it just feels like and maybe other people can relate to this is. Like even like the sketchy times in your life like they all are like preparing you for like the next step in your journey and that really resonates with me because quite honestly like I haven’t I haven’t done camming in like 2 or 3 years and a lot of things that I share on my social media is just mean literally showing my authentic self and being myself and it’s really interesting like the people here are like kind of gravitate towards me when I am my most authentic self and so I think this is a great opportunity for other women like me who who have followings or you know or are present in in a public way to really use their their voices and there are four Mama Gaia for a bigger purpose you know especially when we talk about ecosexuality being such a hot word right now everybody wants to be in the woods hunting yeah I just think this is like it’s a beautiful ways to combine things that are really dear to my heart and dear to your heart and you need to take care of ourselves with it and sustain ourselves with that and I think everybody is deserving of this like everybody should be able to sustain yourself with what they actually care about versus what they’re supposed to be doing but I think this is a really powerful project band and I’m honored to be working on this with you well well thank you so much it means it means so much to hear you say that and yeah from the from the deepest place in my heart you know I F I wish there was a way to and I think blockchain will ultimately facilitate this where it’s like you know whatever I feel like my misdeeds have been in my mistakes and ways that I’ve wrong people and there’s no there’s definitely I I do not want to be the single point of failure for something and I feel like is it as big as in powerful and as important as everything that you have shared in this conversation which you know I don’t not trying to put myself throw myself to the Wolves as just being the privileged white boy and what not but I will say that you know whatever whatever we’re agreeing on as being truth about the the duty to step up and and B are true authentic sexual cells and serve nature and help to dismantle patriarchy and and all these things you know I guess I’ve said to people before that in this lifetime I can honestly say that you know I have been abused and tortured and molested and raped and oppressed and incarcerated and in a lot of the ways that that women have and I won’t say women of color but I will say that bike in this life I didn’t have the ball games and barbecues that a lot of men take for granted and I didn’t have a lot of the same so I am a I am a gender traitor I don’t consider myself in transition in the enemy way of you know that I and I don’t I don’t have them not no value judgments on that whatsoever but I will say that I really I really do want to have the power Dynamic and the the what are they call it the the the shift of the financial power the the sort of yeah this this Tipping Point of men acknowledging their weaknesses and also being genuine about their help a Cherokee has wounded them and also handing the keys to the kingdom over and letting the women lead and and to some extent where appropriate collectively govern and that let there be a safe form of financial and sexual matriarchy that is going to be necessary for men to kind of ketchup and he’ll Andre wire and really earn public like we we failed with political dominance in sexual dominance sake that there’s no question about that so we need to go in time out and if there’s you no mercy for us as our Doms might you know Grant this effort time to time then we will be given a chance to to rise to the occasion but they’re really does need to be a male ego surrendering and so you know I just want to know put that out there so when haters and people that want to attack me and tell me I’m not qualified as I just want to be like hey look I’m just the messenger you know you can shoot me if you want I got to do it right somebody has to do the work so I think you are amazing for stepping up to the plate and doing the word yeah and you know I think that’s an honest conversation that people need to have Bell hooks off Austin says you know women and men have both been wounded by patriarchy and and as I was walking would like to say time for Democratic womanism hand over the key right on well we definitely touching a lot of synchronicity here and I will say that my I’m trying I will be speaking lesson listening more and there will be more of me just having a sweet smile at being a security guard and a sort of technical sort of them just backing and supporting yeah wait for for women’s voices to be heard and and the Beautiful projects that you are working on to be to be seen and adored and and also break down a lot of that pretty privilege stuff I would love for Elder I mean there will be as many types of diverse body types and facial structures and makeup no makeup hair no hair whatever it’s all really the depth of and I I I believe that we are able to see Beauty Beyond the beauty myth in and we just need to be exposed to a more mmmm the radiance of women in their Crone years and women who are BBW all that stuff is all what we what we yearn for is that diversity and at texture of life in every different body type and every different appropriate age and all that good stuff so yeah let’s sew with all that. Yeah you we really did me a huge favor to like bear with me to 2 to hear all this and I wanted to bow down and bail out a bit and say please do meet us out of this of this podcast with perhaps you know what whatever is on your mind whatever you feel like I’m sharing from from your heart and then if you’d be so kind as to kind of clothes with you with your meditative black girl affirming prayer magic and the podcast women that’s like tactics the kindest rough like they’re their heteronormative monogamous relationships as a distraction I used to work Primal several times to reference like a emotions like jealousy but instead of using the word Prime alumni replace that with the word ego-driven because I think it’s really important to acknowledge because I actually I think being Primal very healthy and a lot of ways and it’s something that we should be more into tapping into you that I’m going to use the word ego and not Primal and I don’t think I could like walk away this without saying bye House of the firming I spell black BLK because I think that the way black is spell and like our culture black kind of like is this unspoken connotation as if black is lacking something but actually black is desorption of all colors that I like Blk and then girl is g i r l a n d white girlfriend name and yeah it’s already been I’m going to invite you to find a comfortable seat once again and to just really begin to focus on those shorter in Hell’s and those longer X house grounding here to this moment with gratitude and love and gratitude for the internet to help us create community that we wouldn’t have if it if it was not for so thank you Ben thank you so much yes we will be in touch very soon and everybody stand by for the forthcoming launch of the survival woman.com spelled w o y let me write that down and I will start it over again it will be it will be one second and today is July 8th today is July 12th and my goal is to have a beta testing version of the website survival woman.com up in the next few weeks and that’s Survival spell normally and women spelled w o m b y a.com so survival and that will be up soon and you will be featured as one of the first and yeah one of the first models on that website and we will have some very fun content going and we will also be yeah eventually hey I think was probably going to happen is that the survival woman will have its own podcast and maybe you will be one of hopefully many hostesses to bring that like I would love to just put your facilitate that that part of the platform as well so I sent it to think about half your debt if you want to be in that kind of role as well so yeah alright well then let’s call it a podcast and we’ll be in touch very soon thank you so much again Jasmine and yeah have a wonderful rest of your gorilla yogini afternoon what’s a good day. Thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Building a Tantric Sex Education Business as a Power Couple with Mariah Freya TPP166

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In this episode I’m joined by Mariah Freya for a deeply informative and insightful exploration of the interworkings of a tantric sex education business run by a power couple. She shares her personal journey, the dynamics of building a business with a lover, the mechanics of yoni/lingam massage, and much more.

Some of the topics we cover include:

  • her path to become a sex and orgasm coach
  • the founding of the educated brand
  • the intimate details of yoni and lingam massage
  • how their online academy for extraordinary lovers is serving 94 countries
  • her social work background, her desire to change the world
  • how her she and her partnet discovered tantra 8 years ago
  • she was working for womens’empowerment, helping with micro finance in India
  • one day a woman talked about how to squeeze vaginal muscles and what you can do with your lover
  • the lack of creativity in her pre-tantric sex life
  • dealing with the typical arch of waning passion, and transcending the bored of sex with the same person for more than a few months
  • developing an inner voice as a sexual being
  • attending the Agami yoga school in Thailand
  • how she realized there’s a methodology, certain tools exist for sexuality
  • she got curious, went to a secret tantra workshop in northern India, it was a kind of a dangerous thing, she was not allowed to share with the locals
  • she started building skills with yoni/lingam massage and eventually squirted for the first time
  • her previous experience as a blogger/podcaster,
  • how she became a became coach, providing online courses
  • how pleasure can be a business, and a business can be pleasurable with a partner
  • how she was able to step up as a woman
  • how her partner Philip is the geek, the brain behind the business, bringing the spirit of change and innovation
  • how it has been great great for their business and relationship
  • how she brings in earthy energy,
  • the importance of self care rituals, and self yoni massage with full body massage that connects with spirit
  • yoni shiatsu
  • how the g-spot and cervix store negative and numb emotions
  • how to acknowledge what’s there, not a goal, just witnessing
  • how release blockages and numbness
  • how to activate and awaken pleasure in the reciever
  • the pros and cons of involving more than 2 people in a tantric sexual healing session
  • the mechanics of providing a lingam massage
  • overcoming the hangups of giving unconditionally
  • their course has over 30 lingam massage techniques
  • and more!Please visit her website at:
    https://beducated.com/About Mariah:
    Mariah Freya is your sex coach for inside the bedroom and beyond, founder of Beducated.com, and creatrix of the Yoni Massage Online Course.  She opens up the topic of sexuality in all its diversity. Mariah has a powerful global mission: Changing the World with Conscious Sex, One Orgasm at a Time. She desires to Liberate sexuality from below the belly button up, and helping the individual grow through pleasure into fulfillment.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township on podcast episode number 167 I am extremely excited in just grinning from ear-to-ear because I have Jasmine as a guest on the show and this is the the very exciting Adventures background that I have to to lead up to our conversation she has been a friend of mine on social media now for probably a good many moons and also a listener of the podcast and it’s always a treat for me to just find out that random different people from all over the world that are tuning in and getting something positive and empowering from this and to have somebody step up and just kind of time in really is affirming for me so it’s like wipe she goes by the name black girl affirming on Instagram and I feel like she’s helped this white boy give a little back formation and if I says so it’s been fun yeah we’ve we just had a bancer online and there was a time of you know I would say that that the cheat sheet she gets my heart racing and as I see your posts and and she’s easy on the eyes and all that good stuff and you know but I wouldn’t have I wouldn’t have crossed the line of propositioning her to be hired as a model I don’t want to end up using that as like a unprofessional Shady pick-up line you know but but I was compelled to be like damn I got to know if you’d be willing to take money for some of these pictures if you’re shipping because you’ve got you know the vibe that I’m going for them looking for as far as women who are empowered and have a story to tell and are doing cool things in the world that are inspiring and and also being willing to play with erotic energy and actually engage in and share a bit of them to set themselves in an erotic matter with the world and so whenever I see that whenever I see those two things together it it it makes me want to reach out in that way but so that the the real what makes me so ridiculously happy right now is to talk about this is is to describe that moment where I saw the one little Instagram clip little video clip that that push me over the edge and it was this a scene with a beautiful like small kind of Creek little waterfall Rock somewhere in a lovely Forest environment and there she was burying her fairness to the world from a nice full backside kind of perspective in and she’s first facing forward or you’re facing away from the camera and then there’s is very slow very meticulous and methodical turning over head towards the camera so naked and had her turning over her shoulder and then there is the absolutely most mischievous yet playful and somehow Innocent but it totally inviting look like I’ve never felt so invited to anything and end but it’s left to your imagination so it could be that you are you’re invited to also take her clothes off and get in the water or you’re invited to just sort of let your imagination roll and and I I think I was in that moment just feeling like this is the quintessential expression that if only women in the world were permitted and facilitated and in in secured and inhaled safe to be able to be able to express it as they want to be then then there will be a lot more of these beautiful moments for a cell to for taken and nothing in for all genders and for all Expressions you know to feel like hey this is me you know here I am love it or leave it whatever and son is just so many it’s worth a thousand words and I’m and I’m going to use a screenshot as the as the the assertive profile photo for this episode so anybody listening please do yourself a favor and and get a deep download a deep deep Country transmission from this photo it says like this is how we all could be living you know naked men like trans McKenna said we know where we really want to be is in the jungle sitting in the jungle naked stoned and exalted and and that’s how I want to live so you know with all the with all that said a couple little things here is that Jasmine is a yoga instructor a community organizer activist and a bookstore owner and and she will be one of the very first survival women models for the new website that I’m launching at mentioned a few times in the past and and we’ll get in to kind of the the the thinking behind that and how we you know we’re going to collaborate to really changed shifts and paradigms in a really fun and empowered way so we’ll get into that later but for now just wanted to say thank you for bearing with the too long intro and Jasmine is going to know take over and lead us on a nice some grounding kind of intro and then we’ll get to hear all about her in her own words a band that was beautiful and so honored to be on this podcast with you today and I just want to take a couple of moments to kind of ground and center before we get the chatting so I invite anyone who is listening to this to find a comfortable seat if you can’t find a comfortable seat that’s fine to invite you to close your eyes if you’re not driving just began to turn in and word and Bill the contrast of the heaviness of the body and the likeness of your breath maybe you take your tongue to the top of the mouth so you create a nice little part between your lips and your teeth and I hope your breathing slowly begin to let your ex house become a little bit longer than your in house maybe you call when your favorite see it to you right now where energy or spirit that you like to work with whenever you’re ready believe again. The eyes flutter open and bring yourself back into this moment all right Manny ready I’m ready I am so ready I was born ready for this cool so yeah tell us all about your personal life journey to lead us up to this lovely moment they were sharing Barry as well I am from a small rural town and you know I’m one of those places where there’s not much to do besides getting in trouble so I’m actually really blessed that somehow that my past was a lot different from a lot of the kids that I grew up with and I think a lot of that had to do with like the the matriarchal family I was brought up in had a strong grandmother even though during this time so I kind of just thought she was really strict she’s actually creating like structure that a lot of children crave to start at 6 and set three light and three growing up with her she put me into an early college high school so I graduated high school at 17 with an associates degree I went off to go to college I graduated college it’s Manny with a ba in political science college for about five years now so I’m 25 and most people would just be graduating college right now but when I graduated college like a lot of people kind of experience this like shifting your like like where you feel like okay now what and during that now what phase is when I begin my yoga Journey my yoga practice and that was five and a half years ago and a lot has changed but the one constant has always been my ability to come back to my map and for that I’m really grateful and I think have self-discipline through my practice has really shaped and mold me into the woman I am today so yeah that’s fabulous your accelerated I love it there are these moments of acceleration where you’re like you kind of like blink and then like a years have gone by and then you have these moments where I like things kinda Canfield. But really that’s just the time of resting there to be honored to you know right on yeah that’s that’s very interesting is this the first time I’ve heard of a program of a high school where you could actually be getting credit towards College simultaneously that sounds like a very opportune in yeah I would love to see that via the way for people to be more empowered and more set up and I have to reinvent the wheel so much with so many wasted hours if monotony and rote learning and all that stuff so yeah how was your college experience it’s kind of a shitshow I think up until that point I had been like so sheltered and really like a nerd for lack of better words you know it’s kind of cool now but back then it didn’t feel too cool so when I got the college and I was like by myself like any country girl who finally gets to the city, but I was able to keep it together enough so I can walk across that stage tell us more about the wildness if I can’t imagine what you mean by that College was a great experience in the sense that that was the first time I had really look like I had an opportunity to like really explore like black urban culture like I said I am an African-American woman and I grew up in a rule town and many of my school years I was often like one of maybe like three black kids so is a culture shock in that way and you know I’m forever grateful for those times like the relationships in The Sisterhood that created really like been lifelong friendship and he has so many of the people I went to school there doing incredible things here in the area that we lived in especially in the activist and organizing community so I’ll go ahead and I’m going to mention this I hope she’s okay with me mention this I have a friend named glow who was a part of the Charlotte Uprising if you’re not familiar with the Charlotte Uprising it was a series of a protest that were triggered by the the police killing of an unarmed black man and weather has been really in transit in that movement and is facing felony charges for conspiracy and like starting a riot and all these like what does Tactics with the state uses to impress black voices honestly and so if anybody wants to support glow you can support her at like Charlotte Uprising on Facebook figure out how you feel like donate to her legal defense funds and yeah and so like all of us and now we’re like out here doing this like activist work and back then if you knew you would never think we would be the ones like on the front lines protesting because back then we’re more concerned about partying but you know well that’s best music to my ears. I definitely had a similar experience yeah but partying and getting political and political partying it for being a little more on the for me you know I’m the anarchists kind of spectrum of just wanting to break down break down all the organized religions and all the organized political systems and get really really raw and him back to the roots and I know ya without disclosing your your whereabouts exactly I know that there is a I mean we have good good very deeply nature connected kind of movements that we that we both share so yeah Anarchy for life oh yeah so good part owner of is an anarchist bookstore so we we we focus a lot and Anarchist literature and having a very diverse selection of authors and you know Octavia Butler you know emergent strategy and brown Bell hooks You Name It We got it has been a really good experience for me I thought I was bad until I like teamed up and started doing this and I was like well I could be way more rider that’s awesome it sounds like it’s kind of a Cooperative kind of structure is at how do you how do you do that it’s just really interesting and really this I’d love to spend some time on this because a 25 year old entrepreneur in that space but also doing it in a minute in a more collectivized sense where you’re not trying to always be the lone rock star or you know carrying all the weight by having a healthy business Dynamic where you’re serving the community and your hopefully you know appealing yourself away from the working for the man you know and making living it’s doing things right so how is that you want to tell us about it just a Dynamics in so people can get a good get inspired to do some other things a lot of people are starting to wake up to you it’s the idea that you really can’t do it all by yourself you know like we’re so removed from like community that it’s just so much to take on especially when you look at the state of the world now that you can be really depressing if you try to like fix everything by yourself and so I think like working with a proper dose is been really like therapeutic for me like the bonds that I’ve built but these people but you know in a traditional work setting maybe have like a cold and you’re just really not feeling up to par but you might not necessarily have that intimate connection to just be like you know what like I would like to give 100% today but you might get 75 and this is why I not feel judged for it because we we don’t prioritize our work as like in a sense of like a capitalist labor mentality like our work is more of a in the sense of service start Unity so yeah I love that I have the ability to like lean into that a lot and I think it’s something that’s really missing but you know I’m we talked about entrepreneurship I feel that that’s been the white one of the cornerstones of my generation is just being like you know I really don’t want to do the nine-to-five thing is like forever confused when I let got a college about like why I was so depressed and so miserable and these jobs and it’s because they’re not normal you’re not in it so like an office desk or Worse do you like hard manual labor for like hours of a day and like get like an hour break has not normal it just doesn’t make sense to me when I started linking up with like-minded people I was like Oh My Tribe thank God I’ve been looking everywhere for you guys. I feel exactly the same way and I was just having a conversation just about the drudgery and the sort of repackage slavery in a lot of people you know you would have more of a deeper authentic voice on this issue the me one of the ways to think that people lose sight of just the process of building Empire in Civilization is that you know the The Branding on slavery has changed and their arguments have been made you know you can audit them better than I but just saying that essentially the it was in some way some people would argue I’ve heard the argument that that no slaves who do the slave labor have to earn in Spain money for rent and room and board and all of these other Aldi’s Aldi’s other necessities of life that that were provided in so-called traditional or official slavery now the trick on everybody and not the least of which being the freed slaves is that oh you’re free now but you still are under the impressive system still have institutionally disadvantaged and marginalized in the whole pyramid of privilege is still a pressing and on top of that now you have to pay rent now you have all these other bosses in oppressors and it’s like the only way to break free from all that is to do what you’re talkin about which is collectivize and share resources in and work for working with each other and serve a community in an end then you can really be free of of having to feel pressure to work for somebody else’s you know Empire to even survive I don’t know how that sounds you know if I’m using the right language but curious about your thoughts very deep question when I when I hear you speak up a couple of things come to mind me I think I like I wouldn’t be the first person to say like today’s caplis labor is slavery I would attribute more of that like modern slavery slavery to like the prison industrial complex just because like I mean the way those people are treated in prison is just absolutely disgusting you know I am a part of a collective that collects books for prisoners and like they can’t even get hardback books like there’s so many regulations on like what they’re allowed to even read in prison that. Feels like that’s very much like like somebody having like literal control of your life where I think you know in like capless America like traditional Society like we do have like a lot of leeway in that sense but other thing that came to mind was you know how the system of capitalism rely so heavily on when men and women’s bodies right because ultimately we are the people who reproduce the workers are right and that’s something that really came to me and that the way that like our government tries to regulate women’s bodies is so deeply High to capitalism. if you want to talk about women’s Liberation we have to talk about the dismantlement of the system that no longer is working for us you know yeah yeah those are really really important points I’m glad you brought them up and they had those are whole whole topics for whole other episodes that I will definitely have you a recurring guest in knowing when we so now there anybody listening to understand why you know why I’m so thrilled to have someone with this level of insight to to be on the show and to bring help me come back to a more radical more more insurrectionary even kind of attitude towards the system and you know I’m really not here to to put on rose colored glasses and make everybody into Township Bliss bunnies that just Frolic and leap over all of the Shadow work that needs to be done so she had sex magic which is like I would love to see a people’s movement rooted in spiritual health and sexual Liberation and that didn’t happen a lot I mean even I know the Black Panthers were were systematically terrorized by the FBI and they would even implant it wouldn’t plant home-wrecking informants and in Plants insiders to actually fuck with people using jealousy and using the tactics of of like really Mike fucked-up monogamous drama to fucking ruin the movement and say okay if you had resilient sexual magical tantric tribes maybe that shitt wouldn’t work maybe they’d have to go through 74 initiations I know even the The Weather Underground SDs that was more of a of a white kind of elite more elitist and white kind of movement that they would do homosexual initiations to not that I know exactly all of the historical details about it but I believe that the thinking was that to break down the structures of patriarchy that they would they would in some places require a sort of homosexual kind of initiation and that probably also was a way to say oh you do you know any if you’re a cop in the room raise your hand okay now now you have to like stripped naked and join this orgy otherwise you know your we’re going to know your I don’t know if that anyway I could there’s so much to learn about about these about this movement so again I just I think we’re going to have lots of fun on going you know exploring the stuff and I’ll just leave it there for now but yeah go ahead. I will shut myself up and you know it when we were talking about like you know like the FBI using like jealousy and like these like like kind of Primal like Musa kind of fuck was like I was really lucky to do you like an all-day group intensive workshop with Alice Walker and if you’re familiar with her she’s the author of The Color Purple in search of our mothers Gardens you really famous Friday and my question for her was like how do I continue to show up as a community organizer as activist and like take care of myself at the same time and her response was you have to heal yourself first before you can show up in that capacity so you know especially with like Daris amen if you’re not doing that emotional labor like you’ll you’ll get you’ll get there like you you’ll make strides but you it can be easily triggered and this I told if you’re not working on things like jealousy and you know like these Primal energy that can be really a distraction at times yeah that is that’s great advice well we’ll so now it’s okay so I’m just so thrilled because normally did to this is I mean I’ll say that there is a lot of well well meant and really justifiable tension and hostility between and among the genders and sexes in radical communities because there is so many creditors that go into like direct-action campaign and end up trying to you know he’ll actually a lot of those people are are the cops I got to give away a dead giveaway is at the agitators who were sent in there and if they’re not actually trained it call Monica or whatever they’re actually just sort of people that may be a flipping and doing the sort of treacherous and traitors stuff of being maybe they got busted for having a joint and then they said hey go and fuck with that that direct-action campaign and we’ll let you off or whatever but you know I’ve seen those kind of people and they come in and they are the ones who were trying to sexually manipulate and violate women and to create that sort of drama so you know too too kind of frame this discussion little bit around the sexuality you know the ideal of sexual Liberation in radical communities and then the sort of shadow of How It’s in some places we can create Anarchy especially like deep in the forest when they’re did say they are far away the system is actually far away and then there’s a lot of you know enforce the fence campaigns that I was involved with there were rapes and molestation and abuse has and there would be the sort of tribalism of the you know bands of Brothers kind of breaking off and fighting the women who were really literally fighting for their lives and fighting for the forest because it’s all that stuff so you’re taking a very bold step from that away from that that more siloed and hostile attitude towards me because you could have really been like who the fuck is his douchey white dude talking about you know all this Liberation stuff and in a part of that is very true but you’ve been you know forgiving and being an open to me and now we’re having this conversation about what’s really going to be me taking the fruits of my heart labor and that the money in my pocket and just handing it over to you handsome amounts to take pic nude pictures of yourself in nature and some sort of exploiting you sexually but I’m also empowering you financially and so and you’ve done some webcamming so how about you take over just tell us about wet what’s X work with looks like from your paradigm you know one Brad like I kind of like have like a load for you know these patriarchal white supremacist capitalist system as Bell hooks so I can call it but in the same breath you know when there’s been times where I like I had to happen so that survival instincts and I had like one guy asked me one time he was like am I the victim or the victimizer and the truth is we’re but you know like I think you have to have a certain amount of street-smart to to be able to like use what naturally you have to like to take it to the next level or to financially take care of yourself and support yourself but you know sex work is the oldest work in the world and is not going anywhere and there have been times where like white douchey man have all we like helps me like maybe pay for like tuition for college shirt and this and that and that and it was very much it felt like a mutual exchange it’s really hard to talk about monetizing or like what your body is worth but I would just always encourage women who are like in this in this fail to like don’t load don’t lie sell yourself you know like take care make sure you’re making enough to take care of yourself first and foremost I think when that’s feeling of like it being a mutual exchange starts to like kind of waiver then that’s when we start talking about like maybe this is more of self harm than it is actual good and that’s up to each person’s own discernment like what feels Mutual for you like how how do you value yourself and then there’s been times when I was camping and people would be like they say the meanest things and get tell me I was charging too much and doing this and doing that and I can be a lot on your self-esteem but I just encourage you to stick to your guns because those people naturally weed themselves out for sure for sure well I’m I’m feeling that I’m feeling that very deeply and you know if I have one sort of claim to I guess my is there’s a there’s a lot of white guilt kind of Shadow behavior in the activists Progressive funeral ft world and green left it kind of world and you know I’ve I guess a lot of people who have that white guilt have strategies of ways to try to minimize the amount of privilege that they have on paper so they’ll you know come up with ways that they are also oppressed and you know I will also be enough for me and I feel like there is some it’s a struggle and it is it’s a real thing and I feel like it’s a it’s an appropriate internal battle to have about like what is my role on this continent what is my role in this hemisphere you know what the going to be in service or am I going to be a parasite on you know all of the indigenous people in the land and I’m trying you don’t go into that struggle and I would say that you know the one thing that that is legitimate about my sort of being able to claim that I have some impressions of my own is that I have that background is like a street-walking sex worker as a minor you know an inn that I had said to be able to so you know I’ve seen some horrific things in Android some things and that doesn’t make me on the level with a lot of other people by any means but we can at least talk about that from a you know from a I can talk about that from a place of humility in place of having been there and Having learned Street smarts in until I understand like exactly you’re talking about is it you know there is well how would you how would you feel about this argument the sort of sick Pro sex work feminist argument that you know what to put it put it briefly as just that well you know if the feminist who are saying that you’re selling out the feminist movement by serving the crude sexual desires of these men do you know I don’t deserve it and and what not there I see. I see the validity in those points but then the counter argument that I I really like is the one where where women who are sex workers have in each type c see things in a feminist Missy will look at what you’re doing with your body like you’re doing something that could probably get you killed or get you injured you working at a factory that’s prostitution to I’m just being sexy and feeling good in my body and yeah I got to do with some Trolls but you know hey at least I’m doing something very sustainable which is making myself you know as long as I’m hydrated I can just squirt all day and make more money yeah go for something interesting to you were talking about like like from a place of like privilege like what is your role in this world and like honestly like I I feel so blessed in my life that I often times Bill even as a woman of color when I look at like the the global Community as a whole like I am in a place of privilege right and so when we talked about like the larger like our larger Community is it our goals to like if you’re in a place of privilege to kind of full other people up with you like a thank you note capitalism kind of has a backwards cuz it’s like oh like the people at the top will give the poor people stuff right but like what if we like all like collectively were like just like uplifting and like helping each other so yeah I had to deal with some Trolls but ultimately it was what privilege we’re giving me the money and they’re for helping me like with myself up right and now I’m in this position where I can do the same thing for other people even though it’s not in the span of sex work anymore you know random thought sorry please preach on I’m riveted in in a very yeah it’s like this is a really really important kind of thumb conversation that probably you don’t hear to have to just sit a regular Starbucks you know thank you for space so how about telling us more about just your connection to Nature your other other aspects of your character and personality that you’re developing and and then really what you what you were if you were a theoretically to receive a lot of financial tributes and tips and donations ultimately through the the project that we’re going to both to get to talkin about in a little bit but I want to definitely just give you time to talk more about the depth of your character and really what your passions are and what what you’re doing with the means that you have and what you would do if you had a sudden influx of really like serious abundance to to take things all to the next level and so we can kind of go on a journey with you and an imaginary thank you thank you for asking so where I feel most and called to be in service to you as I’m I’m bringing yoga to underserved communities I think it’s really interesting that you know we look at the book The Western version of like yoga culture that is supposed to be rooted in like thieves like carbonetic acts of service but often times like it’s just missed the most are the community sit actually are need of these holistic resources the most and I think you know as a woman of color I feel maybe I feel more confident walking into the projects are the ghettos or the hoods and just setting up my yoga mat and doing my thing and seeing who you like stops and talks to me along the way so if I had like an influx of abundance which I will I’m going to call that in right now I would probably invest and buying more yoga mats and yoga props so I can have like my little van and just go around the different projects and get us and hoods and do pop-up yoga and not charge people money for it yeah it’s something that I it’s really interesting to me like how in America we even found the way it’s like monetize off of it like a like a like a yoga practice like me but is this and I understand people have to pay their bills but I feel like for me even with like the bookstore that I work at and I’m a worker owner at is I don’t make the most money but it’s from such a deep place of service I feel like I’m the richest person in the world and I think that mentality that mentality of the abundance has really served me on my journey so if I had an influx of abundant that’s what I would do with it I would invest and my props and maybe buy a van and deck it out hippie style and just drive around to these communities and show love and show gratitude for them and it’s just that interesting to me about the communities that are in need of like the holistic resources the most are often times the ones that have the most like limited access to it and I find that deeply troubling in the starving and I want to be a part of the solution and as a woman of color who feels like they’re in the space of privilege at times I feel like I honestly would be doing a disservice to my soul and this lifetime if I did not take this role on and if I did not take it seriously well I’m giggling and tearing up right now because it’s I just love it so much and can actually I could have this thought came into my mind is this phrase that I hope you will take it and run with it if it if it drives with you because I’ve never heard it before and I don’t know if it’s you know I’m afraid to Google it cuz it’s probably already a huge movement it’s already got books and websites everything but I have never heard these two words together but in this conversation it’s like this is this is what I hope you will claim and an impacted rhysand is the words gorilla yoga or cruelly yogini it sounds like with that van is going to be all about and I know I’ve been a Guerilla Gardener and a gorilla media activist and everybody uses that word kind of tosses it around for different things and guerrilla marketing that’s a book you know it’s a whole the whole I don’t know if I called a movement but it it probably isn’t movement within marketing and I in the book is is a guerrilla tactics is just that the underdog if people aren’t familiar it’s it’s really just the archetype of people who are even America would be considered to be based on guerrilla warfare tactics because they weren’t fighting you know in marching lines and drumming and you know giving away their position they were sniping from the trees and you know we have a proud history anyone who you know worships the flag if that’s your thing you got to be paying homage to Guerrilla tactics so I love what you’re talking about and people do flash Bob yoga stuff like that so you know that if I feel like that’s going to be at least the title of this episode is now going to be gorilla yoga with survival women Jasmine and both of us kind of have like a glove for cryptocurrencies and one of the ideas that have came to my mind is decentralized Yoga right like so you don’t need a studio like you don’t like you don’t need a bank for cryptocurrency beer and yoga studio are you going to go see her right so like yeah I like this I like this movement feel like decentralized most things awesome well okay well I’m getting chills and this is just getting better and better so I will say that yeah if if you don’t mind I’d like to spend a few minutes just kind of bringing you can have to speed Indian people who are listening or going to get the the sort of real-time one of the first now actually kind of relieved through looks into what the what the survival woman project is is now really shaping up to be how the mechanics of it are looking like they’re going to work out and because you were proposition by me you know now it’s been a few months you know have just been kind of dabbling and whether or not I wanted to move forward with this and knowing that it was sort of a a my my Dharma the the focus I want it take to move forward with this is how the survival women modeling project that I feel qualified you know and hello sir. I think we first broke up relationship I’ve ever been we’re going to have a makeup conversation now and cool but yeah so so back to the survival admin thing I would like to just kind of give you the full informed consent overview in and we can get in this moment actually just share thoughts and you can really it’s it’s going to evolve to wear well I’ll just I’ll just take a little take one breast and and try to lay it out as succinctly as if in an elevator doing an elevator picture what is sometimes called stuck in elevator pitch cuz I attempted to go on with these things but I am not going to name names here but they’re there are other modeling Enterprises out there that that I think have done a great job to bring forward the the alt modeling mystique and aesthetic and I and II praise and honour all of the all of the other entrepreneurs in his face and so I’m not going to say that I’m trying to do something better be be if you know anybody down but I will say that I believe the evolution of using Electronic media to to sell and to profit from women’s bodies that it can be done in a way that is a triple bottom line benefit Corporation when when when you know all of that good sort of thumb social impact kind of thinking and and an engineering that from a technical perspective using cryptocurrency what what I’m currently literally in the middle of developing with teams of developers all over the world I’m kind of shopping around bidding projects for different development and design aspects of this but what it comes down to is that I feel that there’s there’s well-established an existing models now for you know for sure there’s something called giveth. IO which is the aetherium Smart contract based way for people to do crowd Source funding to support charitable type of works and projects all over the world for people who are unbanked and who would be marginalized and probably choked out the nonprofit sector and its formal sense and so really anybody with the mission and a purpose and a plan can start to connect with these platforms now that cryptocurrency based and get attention and in crowdfunding and they don’t have to do the sketchy Ico SEC kind of taunting route of the lot of people getting in trouble for it just kind of like no deliverables no investing into a future of earnings of a company or any of those those tricky legal traps but you straight up taping people and I think that the the gift economy is really proving itself out and in the Tipping economy is and you would know that an old people on the sex work in history who know people just hit and run you with hundreds of dollars are thousands of dollars as tribute for nothing like they don’t even ask you to do anything or say anything or wear anything or send them your underwear or nothing they just go away I like I like your Vibe I like your style here it is I got to run to work but like take some money in in the crypto world at the the scope of that type of tipping and gifting is is is just astronomical so I’m out there trying to wire together this website framework to create an opportunity for establish models in the high-end you know La modeling industry because they are actually very very accessible very easy and fun to work with very professional mostly and and very open-minded and I’m having great success and and luck and Fortune working with very established model some of them having tens if not hundreds of thousands of followers and social media and all it’s going to take to light this Wildfire match to bring up all of the women of the world I believe you are willing to step into this platform you know the balance that I’m trying to strike here is that if the established models of the world get on board with this platform has some of them already have enthusiastically I might add in for you know very good rates like I’m I’m paying well and and and I’m paying more than the industry standard for very established people and they also gives you know that if if all it takes is for any of them to proudly display their association with his project and that will create what I believe to be an influx of interest and enthusiasm that will very rapidly trickle-down to those people in need women around the world who have a smartphone internet connection but maybe no money and no bank and no way to comply with them whatever the other web platforms are required in a required to do so there’s already a yeah there’s already yogini in Mexico who is going to do her introduction video for this project in Spanish with subtitles and yes I feel like the the the there are other people in crypto who are pushing the limits of sexy and sex work and spankchain is is part of that you know paradigm-shifting crypto camming kind of platform building Frontier that that that New Horizon of the technological shift and and everybody goes if the Arium Geeks man there so there such sweethearts and there’s some of the most endearing men that I have seen you know at least online some of them I’ll be meeting more closely soon but I really feel like that that the 1% that that the Occupy Movement was fighting there’s a new 1% and they’re all crypto anarchists and lot of them are there Libertarians in there Circle calculus which made me cringe for a while but now I see that they need us as much as we need them and some of them are into Ayahuasca and some of them are you know into burning man and stuff like that so I really feel like you know the the frustrated desire of all of these dudes jerking off to porn and not having an authentic and legitimate connection to the women that they were pleasuring themselves to if we give them the opportunity to tip and to support and to connect with whether it’s from camming to what I believe with the survival in Project is going to be mostly G-rated family-friendly stuff works like you know let your imagination do the work like these women are not always going to be you no teasing you teasing your cock you know so I get over it but we’re bored concerned with is that we have we build a brand that is not going to be limited by XXX you know flagging online and not going to have all that just over the top stuff I’ve been there a day that is very tedious and very kind of nerve-wracking to try to have to be compliant with all that stuff so you know what that said my my proposal really now to you and you were one of the first ones again to kind of reinvigorate me on this is that you know I would love to see a transfer of power once I can bootstrap this with my own money that I make literally working in Beverly Hills in Malibu you know working on landscapes for rich clients and take taking that money in living frugally and taking the percentage of that money and put it into hiring models to get us up the ground what it will eventually lead to is a situation where through the blockchain technology the models themselves will be will be facilitating the flow of of capital through this through the platform and then to know the trip like you said ringing other people up and raising other people up to the collective collectivization of well if you know in power and privilege it’s it’s really going to get to a point where I step away almost like Satoshi and say here is the brain work and it’s like you all it’s you it’s you you’re all stitute to run with and to you so you know that’s how I protect myself from being seduced by power and being too you know having a Founder complex and stuff is that you can build a platform and you can with crypto and blockchain walk away from it and let the users really control the destiny of it as a decentralized application and it’s going to start off with a bit of centralization to to get it you know it’s it’s hatching and its wings and out of the nest and so did Bitcoin so did everything else that there is a crucial. Where you have to take on a little bit extra responsibility but but yeah you are definitely one of the you know the keys to the queendom I’m going to just like Hannah be handing them over and and that’s that’s that’s my verbal kind of Mile High verbal white paper kind of reviews how do you get if you can now take over from from where I just left off with that and let me know how you feel about that and and yeah it will we will be creating a lot of fun stuff together and in the process moving forward came to mind as he were speaking for me on for synchronicity I’ve always kind of considered myself to be really intuitive and I remember when I first started learning about cryptocurrencies I wasn’t quite sure like how it would look but I knew that this would be something that would really like set me up for the rest of my life and you know when I first start listening to your podcast and became your friend I never in a million years would think like these two things would like I’ve realized in a way that they are like overlapping so it just feels like and maybe other people can relate to this is. Like even like the sketchy times in your life like they all are like preparing you for like the next step in your journey and that really resonates with me because quite honestly like I haven’t I haven’t done camming in like 2 or 3 years and a lot of things that I share on my social media is just mean literally showing my authentic self and being myself and it’s really interesting like the people here are like kind of gravitate towards me when I am my most authentic self and so I think this is a great opportunity for other women like me who who have followings or you know or are present in in a public way to really use their their voices and there are four Mama Gaia for a bigger purpose you know especially when we talk about ecosexuality being such a hot word right now everybody wants to be in the woods hunting yeah I just think this is like it’s a beautiful ways to combine things that are really dear to my heart and dear to your heart and you need to take care of ourselves with it and sustain ourselves with that and I think everybody is deserving of this like everybody should be able to sustain yourself with what they actually care about versus what they’re supposed to be doing but I think this is a really powerful project band and I’m honored to be working on this with you well well thank you so much it means it means so much to hear you say that and yeah from the from the deepest place in my heart you know I F I wish there was a way to and I think blockchain will ultimately facilitate this where it’s like you know whatever I feel like my misdeeds have been in my mistakes and ways that I’ve wrong people and there’s no there’s definitely I I do not want to be the single point of failure for something and I feel like is it as big as in powerful and as important as everything that you have shared in this conversation which you know I don’t not trying to put myself throw myself to the Wolves as just being the privileged white boy and what not but I will say that you know whatever whatever we’re agreeing on as being truth about the the duty to step up and and B are true authentic sexual cells and serve nature and help to dismantle patriarchy and and all these things you know I guess I’ve said to people before that in this lifetime I can honestly say that you know I have been abused and tortured and molested and raped and oppressed and incarcerated and in a lot of the ways that that women have and I won’t say women of color but I will say that bike in this life I didn’t have the ball games and barbecues that a lot of men take for granted and I didn’t have a lot of the same so I am a I am a gender traitor I don’t consider myself in transition in the enemy way of you know that I and I don’t I don’t have them not no value judgments on that whatsoever but I will say that I really I really do want to have the power Dynamic and the the what are they call it the the the shift of the financial power the the sort of yeah this this Tipping Point of men acknowledging their weaknesses and also being genuine about their help a Cherokee has wounded them and also handing the keys to the kingdom over and letting the women lead and and to some extent where appropriate collectively govern and that let there be a safe form of financial and sexual matriarchy that is going to be necessary for men to kind of ketchup and he’ll Andre wire and really earn public like we we failed with political dominance in sexual dominance sake that there’s no question about that so we need to go in time out and if there’s you no mercy for us as our Doms might you know Grant this effort time to time then we will be given a chance to to rise to the occasion but they’re really does need to be a male ego surrendering and so you know I just want to know put that out there so when haters and people that want to attack me and tell me I’m not qualified as I just want to be like hey look I’m just the messenger you know you can shoot me if you want I got to do it right somebody has to do the work so I think you are amazing for stepping up to the plate and doing the word yeah and you know I think that’s an honest conversation that people need to have Bell hooks off Austin says you know women and men have both been wounded by patriarchy and and as I was walking would like to say time for Democratic womanism hand over the key right on well we definitely touching a lot of synchronicity here and I will say that my I’m trying I will be speaking lesson listening more and there will be more of me just having a sweet smile at being a security guard and a sort of technical sort of them just backing and supporting yeah wait for for women’s voices to be heard and and the Beautiful projects that you are working on to be to be seen and adored and and also break down a lot of that pretty privilege stuff I would love for Elder I mean there will be as many types of diverse body types and facial structures and makeup no makeup hair no hair whatever it’s all really the depth of and I I I believe that we are able to see Beauty Beyond the beauty myth in and we just need to be exposed to a more mmmm the radiance of women in their Crone years and women who are BBW all that stuff is all what we what we yearn for is that diversity and at texture of life in every different body type and every different appropriate age and all that good stuff so yeah let’s sew with all that. Yeah you we really did me a huge favor to like bear with me to 2 to hear all this and I wanted to bow down and bail out a bit and say please do meet us out of this of this podcast with perhaps you know what whatever is on your mind whatever you feel like I’m sharing from from your heart and then if you’d be so kind as to kind of clothes with you with your meditative black girl affirming prayer magic and the podcast women that’s like tactics the kindest rough like they’re their heteronormative monogamous relationships as a distraction I used to work Primal several times to reference like a emotions like jealousy but instead of using the word Prime alumni replace that with the word ego-driven because I think it’s really important to acknowledge because I actually I think being Primal very healthy and a lot of ways and it’s something that we should be more into tapping into you that I’m going to use the word ego and not Primal and I don’t think I could like walk away this without saying bye House of the firming I spell black BLK because I think that the way black is spell and like our culture black kind of like is this unspoken connotation as if black is lacking something but actually black is desorption of all colors that I like Blk and then girl is g i r l a n d white girlfriend name and yeah it’s already been I’m going to invite you to find a comfortable seat once again and to just really begin to focus on those shorter in Hell’s and those longer X house grounding here to this moment with gratitude and love and gratitude for the internet to help us create community that we wouldn’t have if it if it was not for so thank you Ben thank you so much yes we will be in touch very soon and everybody stand by for the forthcoming launch of the survival woman.com spelled w o y let me write that down and I will start it over again it will be it will be one second and today is July 8th today is July 12th and my goal is to have a beta testing version of the website survival woman.com up in the next few weeks and that’s Survival spell normally and women spelled w o m b y a.com so survival and that will be up soon and you will be featured as one of the first and yeah one of the first models on that website and we will have some very fun content going and we will also be yeah eventually hey I think was probably going to happen is that the survival woman will have its own podcast and maybe you will be one of hopefully many hostesses to bring that like I would love to just put your facilitate that that part of the platform as well so I sent it to think about half your debt if you want to be in that kind of role as well so yeah alright well then let’s call it a podcast and we’ll be in touch very soon thank you so much again Jasmine and yeah have a wonderful rest of your gorilla yogini afternoon what’s a good day. Thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

 

Sex Work Policy Reform Activism with Dave in Phoenix TPP165

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Sex Worker FistIn this episode I’m joined by a passionate advocate and activist for sex workers’ rights. Dave in Phoenix has been on the front lines of the prostitution decriminalization movement for a long time and has great insights to share about the Phoenix Goddess Temple case and much more.

Please visit his website at:
http://libchrist.com/

We discuss:

  • the story of liberated christians
  • swing conventions in the 90s
  • “onward christian swingers” new times
    article
  • the issue of single men in poly/swinger groups and the argument for sex workers
  • the history of the Phoenix Goddess Temple
  • Dave’s views on sexuality, religion, and law
  • the need for legal healing, massage, and touch
  • concerned about prostitution laws
  • “felony criminal enterprise” much higher
    crime than just prostitution which is just
    a misdemeanor
  •  testing the viability suggested donation vs. a fee arrangement for a sex act
  •  historical overview of Canadian prostitution laws
  • in-private consenting adult sex work vs
    street prostitution
  • beyond the myth that all prostitutes are forced into it
  • how escort agencies bend the law
  • harm reduction
  • Canadian charter of rights and freedoms
  • in current U.S. legal climate, escorts being assaulted by bag clients can’t help each other and are more afraid of the policy than bad clients
  • challenge to California prostitution laws
  • Sex Workers Outreach Project
  • Alternative funding models for sex “volunteers”
  •  the grey area of sugar daddies and friends with benefits
  • the potential and precedents for a club/membership model
  • the commonality of prostitution in the times of the bible
  • patriarchal double standards of adultery
  •  thoughts on bonobos and the myth of monogamy
  • my prayers for Tracy who I interviewed in this episode: https://tantrapunk.com/taking-a-stand-for-sacred-sexuality-with-tracy-elise-tpp36

About Dave:
I come from a very conservative background. 20+ years ago I was very active in evangelical, conservative ministries, including Bible Study Fellowship, Christian Business Men’s Committee, as well as serving as deacon in a conservative Presbyterian Church. For many years I believed in the inerrant word of God–God said it and that settles it.

But I met a couple where both husband and wife were going to Lutheran Theological Seminary to be ministers. They started pointing out how in Hebrew and Greek there were obvious contradictions in scripture and some things I thought were crystal clear were quite foggy. Being interested in supporting my conservative beliefs concerning sexuality, I set out to do more research to prove my position correct that sex was wrong unless you were married and then only with your wife. I read many books by theologians and those that were experts in Greek and Hebrew and slowly, over time, I found the evidence was overwhelming that I had been very wrong in my traditional beliefs. I became very upset that the church would mistranslate and misapply the bible to promote an agenda, which was not based on the original biblical texts.

In the mid 1980’s I attended many Stan Dale’s Human Awareness Institute’s “Sex, Love and Intimacy” workshops in Calif., where I learned and experienced the group dynamics of true love, intimacy and fulfilling sexuality far beyond just thrusting intercourse. While these groups were often closer to New Age type beliefs, I saw more Christ like love than what I had ever experienced in the traditional church. Too often the church is too busy reaching UP to God to reach OUT to each other. There are more people in the world starving for love and affection than starving for food, but when it comes to meaningful intimate interaction, the church is too often “God’s Frozen People.”

In my childhood I was very shy. I was scared of women and didn’t date till I was a senior in college. I never went to a dance. But gradually I became more outgoing and married. But more than 20 years ago, after being resingled, I was insecure and depressed. Many women reacted negatively to me, sensing neediness and insecurity. But slowly, over time, after experience the Stan Dale workshops, some sex surrogacy training, Esalen massage training and lots of G-spot massage experience I found women strangely attracted to me…especially once they started to experience my touch. For many years I thought all men were naturally, wonderfully intimate and I was just far behind. But so many women started telling me they had seldom experienced men with good touch and intimacy skills and I began to wonder why. I have concluded that many men want to be more intimate but haven’t learned how.

Example: A couple had me do Esalen massage on the women. After a while the man came upstairs to see how we were doing and got turned on seeing his nude girlfriend on my table. He jumped in wanting to be sexual with her. As he was poking and groping her body parts he asked how things were going. She replied “Great until you came up”. Sometimes honest communications can be embarrassing but he did get the message that at that time she wanted the intimacy of massage not poking and groping.

On the other hand, not everyone is going to become interested in real intimacy. Being intimate is much more threatening and difficult for many than just having recreational sex with strangers. But for me I don’t enjoy sex without intimacy, but often enjoy intimacy even without sex. My purpose is to show the various sexual intimacy options so people can relate to whatever they choose is most fulfilling for them.

I enjoy physical intimacy with a wide variety of women who also enjoy good touch, cuddling, massage, caressing etc. I have lots of ideas for more intimacy based on many years of teaching intimacy workshops for couples, counseling many couples as well as hearing from a huge number of men that are seeking more intimacy from sex workers.  I have been a speaker at national swing conventions hosted massage rooms and led the Phoenix Couples Group that had 350 participants.   I have been professionally trained and teach Esalen massage, which many women have enjoyed. I offer free massage to sex workers/dancers/massage therapists. Or, I offer what I call a non-sexual cuddle and caress experience so many women enjoy. Yes, I also enjoy sex but not “just sex” without intimacy with the great sex.

One of the problems I face in dating many “normal” women is that as one said, “I am looking for a man who values monogamy as much as I do.” The problem is they only see cheating as the alternative to monogamy. But because I have such different views, finding like minded single women is very hard. Obviously sex workers often face the same issues in their own personal relationships.

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Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 165 I’m being joined by Dave in Phoenix who is has a very interesting and very important role in my life and in the development of what’s becoming kind of a character which is this Township Punk this is sort of my my self-proclaimed super heroic Persona and it really was birthed to be very deeply honest this this this passion and this energy for sexual education sexuality education and sexual freedom in the rights to be a dignified sex worker and sexual healer all of these passions came really from my disgust and outraged when I first heard about what happened at the Phoenix goddess Temple and that invigorated me to because I saw an absence of a really solid movement within Tantra even though I had been a practitioner and a student and was kind of developing my skill sets and my credibility to have a practice and to operate in that field and I had some back on and I have really assumed there was a much stronger and a much more radical and much more proactive in in even revolutionary kind of solidarity movement within Tantra and when I discovered the what happened with the Phoenix goddess temple with Tracy at least it was really heartbreaking for me to feel like there wasn’t a strong sense of a movement like the way that the Black Panthers and the American Indian movement and civil rights movement and the gay rights movement and so many other movements that have had solidarity with political prisoners and with persecuted persecuted locations or or localities that there was a mycelial network of support that I was used to coming from that background and radical movements and I felt like it was severely lacking in this case and I don’t know all the facts and I wasn’t there and I can’t from my own personal experience make any any reasonable claims about the facts of the case all I can say is that I felt that the response was abysmal and very very few people seem to be keeping a breast with the proceedings of Tracy’s case and before the trial and end in after the trial and one of those few people who is here to talk about his perspective in his background that’s that’s Dave and he’s one of the few people that I have a very remote connection with just a just a lot of adoration for the work that he’s done and if you’ve never heard of the things got his Temple or Tracy at least please hang in there were about to get a full dose of the story on but first I want to just say thank you for hearing me out Dave to get caught up to speed and where I’m coming from and why I appreciate what you’ve done so much and and just say please do share with us here as much as you can or would like to about your personal background and what makes you a a very passionate delegate and well I guess the advocate is probably better word for the sex workers rights movement in general very good then I come from sort of a very different background but we kind of wind up in the same place at least in Broad broad generalities I was regionally in my childhood very shy kid scared to death of women that they tell I was a junior in college then people kind of say I might have made up for lost time I was also very conservative Christian Evangelical Christian Church I was a counselor for the Billy Graham crusade I originally grew up in Minneapolis which was the headquarters of the Billy Graham Association I was also very active and very fundamentalist Christian groups Bible Study Fellowship Christian business men’s can a very repressed sexually in with women and everything then I gradually grew I think my first life changing experiences were series of workshops over a number of years who founded by Standale human awareness Institute out of San Francisco with workshops at Harbin Hot Springs Resort in Northern California very powerful combined with sexuality in different forms very well done over the years I went many numbers of times I also once again in a relationship and brought a woman there that had a very powerful life-changing positive experience so that kind of made me get into the opposite of what I was as a child very outgoing or so I’ve always been interested in the intimacy aspects of of sensuality notches the the the sexuality so then I have to after that I moved to Phoenix and I started exploring with the biblical aspects of sex of sexuality I’m very analytical person I can came from the CPA background so I don’t believe just what people tell me I kind of have to examine for myself and started doing a lot of Bible study on the sexuality issues and found that at the conservative this really didn’t have any biblical basis I mean back in biblical times man could have as many wives and concubines as he wanted adultery was a violation of man’s in husband’s sexual physical rights over his women in all sorts of things then I met another Christian it was following the same path of the traffic came from a clothing-optional group in Los Angeles who wound up being here in Phoenix and we got together and says Jesus is a lot of Christians out there that are guilt-ridden everything about their sexuality was maybe they don’t really need to be and we formed a group called liberated Christians still have the website low price., though I haven’t upgraded it for many years we also been contacted by the lifestyle organization the national Swing Swing organization and did a bunch of presentations at the national Lifestyles convention I will probably in the 90s sometime at this point then we were picked up by a local newspaper called new times I had we were on the front page and headline I just looked it up still in the internet up the article on the front page headline find word Christian swingers looking for God in all the wrong places try this Sunday meeting and one of my favorites sentences in the article was this group’s introductory literature may be the only publication on Earth will you find the phrase Old Testament and vibrating nipple clamps on the same page typically swing group polyamory but not extreme living together and that’s for a thing after that article came out in New Times which had somehow they found her phone number buy some links to our website and that sort of thing and we had like a hundred phone calls from single guys as well as of a couple we have 350 people at one point in the couple’s group was a phoenix couples liberated Christians group and 10 question became what do we do with all these single guys because couples for good reasons want to be with other couples and that first got me interested in sex work area as a practical solution perhaps effect I had one Asian guy I remember distinctly calling me from college he says he’s never had sex before and he wanted to have his first experience with someone that knew what they were doing and they have led to the sex sex work area that I became interested in as a viable profession of helping people. Just just pure sexuality anyway years went by for years I had a phoenix private list with about a thousand people are on at the network with various escorts and in Phoenix and and other people and Tracy somehow contacted me and got on the list she started sharing with me some of her and her interest and experiences and wanted to form the Phoenix goddess Temple and even though I am not I’ve got a follower of Tantra in the religious sense I’m basically opened all religious beliefs I think there’s different paths to God and everything so I wasn’t really interested in the in the goddess you should totally supportive of what she was trying to do with healing people in the size and touching and all those other things but I was concerned about the prostitution laws and Warner you can’t just claim to be a religion and the First Amendment freedom of religion does a prostitution laws without going into a recession operated for number of years Polly had a had to change one location because of zoning and then wound up in the night sky Phoenix temple place they ultimately wound up with then they were rated and by the police 39 wonderful lemon lift Tracy prior to the arrest and then seeing her import exchange lots of emails over the years discussing various issues in the legal issues around what she was doing I met her once interesting lie cuz I met a gal there from the Christian background father was a minister in another country so we were interested in that aspect she also knew about the and that’s why we had a great time Burly got his kind of kind of session so then 39 people were arrested in the big raid 1 convince them they were they drop their and then dilated I think 38 wound up being indicted one was a cleaning lady that had nothing to do with anything anything else going on and the pre-trial process with with a very long time she was originally rested and I had one indictment with a million-dollar Bond as if you were a murderer then there was a second indictment which at one point had didn’t cancel the first behind so she had a two million-dollar bond for a while until the six six eating indictment replace the original document anyway long story of your process of the courts and all the pulmonary stuff they were threatened with the 40-50 years in prison if they didn’t plead guilty they did that because you got up to those kinds of terms because and it was a felony criminal Enterprise which is a much higher level of prosecution than just crossed a higher level of crime and just prostitution which is a misdemeanor but they often did that in Phoenix so they had criminal Enterprise and then every time they control money exchanging it was a felony laundry charge so they piled on all the charges and I was in the hearing where the judge gave four judges all together but one of the judges gave what they call a Donald advisement if you’re found guilty of all these you could face 40-50 years in prison so that scared all the gals they all took plea agreements most all four felonies a butt with probation instead of going facing going to prison Tracy was the only one that held out and went to trial went to a jury I thought the judge was very good there was a lot of big legal arguments about how much you can bring religion into the issue it was clear that there is no first amendment protection I can go through all the legal cases what’s the could you don’t have first amendment protection against state criminal laws but every States when the Supreme Court declared the Federal Protection of religion Free Speech religion along with did not apply all the states develop their own freedom of religion hacks including Arizona and there was a Hennessy case or the Georgia cases that have to be discussed anyway so I was hoping she’d rely more on that unfortunately the a lot of her testimony was very long the judge gave her free raining on everything but it was mostly preaching goddess goddess teachings an app to the jury my opinion didn’t have enough of the legal arguments there was also a lot of witnesses some of the top people the founder of the human sexuality was testify there he’s a great guy even Dennis Hof of the runs Nevada brothels was there and he’s playing this was no way to run a brothel what you take a donation at the end of the. At the end of the session you on the throne or whatever it was called you put your donation of those suggested what was on the website and in order to violate the state prostitution law which leads to criminal Enterprise you have to have a few rangement for a sex act and so I was arguing she should be hurt anymore that wasn’t the arrangement anyway those were brought up but she got it a lot of side issues which weren’t really relevant to my humble opinion so it’s finally after what was it for 5 months of trial judge I thought was very fair went to the jury and we thought you know how many days will the jury deliberate and everything within a couple hours Jerry was ready to announce the verdict I had gone home most people have gone home we got calls we all ran back to the courthouse and she was found guilty on all counts and sentenced to four and a half years in prison when she is now in she then filed an appeal the peels been in process now for a couple of years and all sorts of delays in the appeal the court appointed attorney hope she also acted as our own the Turning which I’ve always thought was a big mistake because she was already really more about what wonderful goddess work she was doing rather than the law and I don’t mean to be over critical but I think she would have been done better if she had had an attorney rather than representing herself so we finally got to the appeal stays she filed a brief her own appeal attorney suggested she not get to her hopes up too much because unfortunately I think the issues are against her then a couple of months ago or 3 weeks ago actually the state made their reply which got into all of the typical reasons why the state has a compelling interest in the prostitution law all sorts of other be crying all the terrible things that happen which is mostly related Street prostitution simple but that was hard to overcome so we were still in the appeals estate actually if she gets out with good behavior Plus credit for time served she might be out of prison in December we don’t even know if that appeals court will make a final decision before she’s released which is sort of ridiculous so I’ve always totally support what she is done though I think her at legal legal aspects were weak and that’s one of my story my background and how I got related to the temple wow well thank you for sharing that and thank you also for being for being honest and this is a place to to learn and to grow together with the right intentions and so I appreciate and I don’t I don’t feel any reactivity emotionally to take me to pick sides and order or I wouldn’t advise anybody that’s could a critical thinker to overlook whatever dissenting opinions are may be of any of any facts or any proceedings like I said before I don’t have a enough of any of the background information or experience to have much of an educated opinion on any of the stuff other than just the for me it’s the this is a unique opportunity for these issues to be sort of officially etched in the record of Western Civilization for as long as it exists but I would say I got a girlfriend I I’ve totally think of prostitution laws ridiculous and should be changed I just got back from Canada to Canada every year for the last 15 years in the Toronto area where we don’t have is a sure everybody’s safe her everything’s aboveboard they don’t have these kind of issues so even though I thought she defended it a little wrong I’ve always been supportive of what she does and all the good things we had by and I think about you we should have decriminalization of prostitution like much of the world does and we wouldn’t have this a lot of the problems that are associated with it I mean stay probably spend a million to $2000000 to prosecute her in 38 good Folks at the truck at the temple in the court system UI money could have been much more wisely smell than on something that had some real victims also one other interesting aspect that you really gets me upset is a one of the vice cops testified he been like a Vice Cop for 15 years and he made the statement have all the rest I’ve done and everything was undercover and with Vise work I have never yet met a prostitute quote that shows the profession she was forced into there’s something in her background so the idea in Phoenix and now around the country is we have to arrest sex workers look like for that turn we have to arrest sex workers to save because no woman in the right mind would be a sex worker that’s the attitude we have when the when the cop said that on the stand Tracy popped up and said you don’t know me and the cops as well I don’t know you that well I’m sure if I dug into your background I would find some abuse for some reason that you didn’t you needed to be you needed to do this and be a sex worker both in Phoenix and basically around the country funded hugely by these anti sex worker and I work groups to take a few isolated cases usually from the street which is totally different from your sex work is dividing the two things Street work obviously which I’ve had no connection with and private Consulting consenting adults like the Phoenix temple and zillions of other escorts a lot of the making your way through through college that are there by choice but we don’t make a distinction about that and there’s huge funding millions of dollars going in the organization to propagate the idea that all sex work is abusive women and therefore we need to save them and lately it’s been reduced man so they’re going more after sings with customers now has a way of reducing this man so hopefully no women will want to be a sex worker be so that’s cuz that’s the big issues that we face it really gets my call with the temple case and all the zillions of other people that have been prosecuted that are doing in private consenting adult sex work right yeah thank you for being up all those are so many important points of of talking points and in places to take action from all in what you shared and we’re in this very backward time right now in special United States and appreciate you bringing in a more Global Perspective and really the the words that the worst harm reduction come to mine for the forward-thinking progressive policies around drug addiction that have also been lead in other parts of the world in at the US drug war is not the War on Drugs the war on sex workers it’s all very much well it’s a Wyndham Chomsky would say it’s not it’s not a conspiracy it’s institutional analysis is not a conspiracy theory if you if you study what’s going on so from your perspective do you want to talk about what you feel especially of the religious background what are the forces what are we how would you describe the forces that are justifying in their minds and their budgets that level of of budgeting for what you could argue is a victimless crime well there are I can’t remember her name is one special Advocate has been wrong for years this written all these research reports on the evils of prostitution us because they are about people mostly street workers and they’re armed and there is a problem street workers that have come from abusive backgrounds that are forced by by economically reasons and that sort of thing I happen to believe that street work is a public nuisance is completely different than private checks work we should have other Alternatives like in calls or or Jones week been tried in Europe but of really really failed the woman that sort of started all of this been going on for like 10 years this is nothing new was just accelerated in recent years the Canadian studies calls I’ve always been legal in Canada however until a few years ago in calls were illegal and agencies Living Color’s call living off the avails what’s the main problem was in calls really go so you can get people off the streets and in an Impulse there was a big fight in the court challenging the laws for printing call and agency living off the avails agencies always thrived in Canada was never a problem his agency’s clearly Soul time and that sex isn’t the word any agencies are being prosecuted o that way but everyone was afraid open Indian calls which would be safer than alcohols Dover number of yours are way too started my case that wound up in the Superior Court of Canada Sac Superior Court of Canada that is a judge ruled 1/2 ruling was one of the longest ruling is in Canadian history of her detail that she went into with all the testimony from both sides part of the testimony was from these groups from the United States that did Friend of the Court briefs about all the evils of sex work the judge took all this into consideration and basically discarded all of that is being biased with a nun representative group and she ruled that the Canadian prostitution law for incalls basically and living off the avails was unconstitutional their constitution is a Charter of Rights and Freedoms which part of that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is about the security of the person and security of the person has been defined as harm reduction in the eyes of the court and ruled that the laws against prostitution without call is always Leon but the other forms of prostitution violated the charge of racing in friedensburg Jennifer security of the person because it created harm so it was the crown light at the the stated then appealed and stem appealed to the Supreme Court of Canada the Supreme Court of Canada upheld Superior Court ruling declaring it unconstitutional the prostitution laws of Canada based on harm reduction something happened subsequent them c36 which is probably going to get rejected also which then made it sort of the Year peter than Swedish example made it illegal for the customer conservative Harper prime minister was against Sheehy there more than some very conservative sects work was terrible and pass the law that made it a crime for the customer even though it was totally legal for a sport most all the major cities police Jason said they were not going to change their enforcement that they were going to follow the harm reduction model of the Supreme Court and basically there’s been no address in are bothering in private consenting adults sex with customers it did bring charges against an Asian Sea which is in process is not going to come back to the courts until January most legal experts believe it will be able to see 36 level to be held unconstitutional again the whole idea is harm reduction safety of the security of the individual under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms obviously the same thing would apply here but we have these well-funded groups National groups we have the hunt Sisters of the famous oil kind of tycoons have been a big girl order of millions of dollars I’ve actually gone there are nonprofit organizations I’ve actually gone and see their their tax filings r990bts background and see the millions of dollars being being funneled into it we also had a big thing in Phoenix the governor and the former Governor instigator that this big Council on sex work made in prostitution and one of the biggest organizers and supporters was mrs. McCain as in Senator McCain who ran for president on unfortunately sick right now but serious illness so we had all these legislative changes in Arizona including making it a felony to promote or assist before that there were about four local boards for people were sharing information warning people about bad clients escort warning others about that clients fake police officers that would would try and get free services that sort of thing when the new Arizona law passed that basically all the local board shutdown nobody wants to be committing a felony for assisting in prostitution my board I greatly reduced I stopped in the ass I stopped any reviews basically it’s now just Legal Information and general stuff but nothing like it was before one of the examples which goes back a few years before these new Arizona laws were passed making everything more risky for everyone of course now with no floss that’s even more extreme Now All Aboard you shut down so there is no safety and in that but I had a rather dramatic experience Health Department as sort of their their battering ram into the industry I’m curious in New Hampshire are they is it is there any specifications from the health department or health code that that are trying to set the rules for the industry for the porn industry their house we are hoping for more people more to join you know start producing they would have to try to regulate it but I don’t know if they would because I really don’t think they would I adhere to the same of you know guidelines as as far as testing goes as the only difference is we provide them with testing we we go through this last we have this very detailed checklist I think it was inspired by Nikki Benz I think it’s called and he will try to do it is legitimate is possible the only difference is we’re not paying Los Angeles or Las Vegas free because no dependents small company but you know we talked with other producers about importing Talent from Vegas and Los Angeles and you know kind of like it’s a long journey to make the asacol responsibility to keep it clean and keep it regulating type of business you just have to have trust that all people are you know I’m doing the right thing around that is because then yeah I think that I think like Outlets sexually here you know I said you know if you will actually liberated place like you know I even thought about you some Leaf peeping directed in the professional studio shoot up or down with your spouse just that sounds like a great guy honestly before you even were saying this stuff I could I was just it was a premonition that you would be talking about this because I I just felt like you were going to probably end up working in some capacity with the Chamber of Commerce of wherever whatever region or whatever sort of municipality or me to Sally’s and actually help that like what you’re you can’t you know you can’t afford your Public Works projects you know your new parks are being closed down for whatever reason well here we got the screws it’s going to be amazing yeah I can see it now and start building and I’m almost filling my gas tank to start driving out there right now I can of gas its people have been wanting you know it’s been it’s been on my not just a to-do list but actually really it’s it’s it’s the lot a lot of the stuff is is I can see it happening and also I I I want to if it’s not already being taken for some other obviously a worthy cause I feel like the love Free or Die state is going to be the hashtag that I talk to Subway to get a handle on that it’s all you it’s you if you can take that and run with it if she if it works but I feel like that’s good it’s the best I feel like you have a lot of love but I like a lot of love yeah I know I feel it I feel I feel you said you were a Healer and you seem you seem like very empathetic yeah this won’t this to me you know all of the trauma that I have witnessed that I’ve experienced ice I can imagine that this is would be a place for people that veteran died literally I mean you know they call it in the adult industry we say that you’re a civilian if you’re not in front of you in if you’re not in front of the camera and doing the stuff for on the street or wherever you’re a civilian and so if that’s the case which I really truly believe it is then we need to have VA programs in hospitals in a note and benefits and we’re doing a public service for helping living out everyone’s fantasies for them if they don’t have the courage or the resources to make them happen so for that I like to be treated with this much if not you know as much love and respect and dignity and resources as veterans violence and brutality in Warfare civilians is military yeah that’s cool yeah and we aren’t we aren’t we know we were lying about reliving some sort of childhood, it wasn’t about servitude or Surrender sometimes it was just the process to the session would be the process to get to the Aftercare to get to that hug to get to that approval of being told you did a good job you know and when I realize that I thought there’s so much more I’ve actually I’ve had plenty of clients for a while there it was kind of weird they were widows widowers their wearers like I was attacking little words that were in various ways and people don’t understand that Sexual Energy can be incredibly therapeutic and healing you know when there’s something fundamentally wrong with that especially you know I mean now I mean Dairy mention you know I mean every day and I just kept having these handmade in handmaid’s tale things going through my mind and and now to be apart of Swap and to be keto on the inside track knowing what’s going on with this legislation here to decriminalize effort I am filled with hope and love all over again no more despair or fear I feel like this could really I meant to be alive right now at this time and to be here and now in this state I feel very very honored and lucky absolutely why I feel very honored and lucky that we are having this conversation you were exactly the voice of the representative that I wanted to find and connect with its in this is really an amazing amazing invigorating conversation and I just I just want to thank you again so much and you know we’ve got a little bit of time left I think we covered most of what I was super excited and looking forward to discussing I guess I would like to ask if you want to talk about the kind of support that you need from people in the area from people abroad people anywhere in the world listening to this but what what do you need to help your chapter really get to the to the point where were you have all your dreams are coming true and you know you have the people power and the skill sets what were you what are your pain points and what do you need so that that can just be put out there and it is a prayer absolutely absolutely awesome and I’m sex worker Outreach project is a nonprofit we do accept donations we accept recurring donations donations I mean just to be an ally to a sex worker to be supportive and you know aware that their work is real work and emotionally laboring work to know the sex work as a form of emotional and physical labor and that nobody story is is representative of all sex where you know and I think that the presence of sex workers in social movement come together and try to fight this and you have to fight what gone but it is a tubal refuse up sex workers bank accounts and it’s happened the money seems suspicious that’s unacceptable yeah yeah that’s you that’s the way to to bypass So Many Factors whether it’s the pimp violence or the banks or the state or even Amazon not wanting your wishlist to be you know used for compensation whatever it is the terms that you have to been in bed will I have to say that the my biggest public service announcement for anybody that might be in your network who listens to this is that I really hope that anyone listening who is a sex worker who has the u.s. exposed to these Financial choke point issues invest time in studying the whole cryptocurrency movement starting with Bitcoin and in aetherium but but you can accelerate that process if you start to look into joining the platform of spankchain which is bringing together all of the activism all of the the really Advanced cryptocurrency solutions for being your own bank literally being your own bank where you have peer-to-peer Financial transactions you can sell they will be yeah they will be providing a lot of solutions for the industry and for the producers and performers to be empowered independently and off the rails of the money system we don’t need to do our dirty work without your dirty Fiat is how I feel McGregor’s Outreach project we have like a meme donation thing you can donate cooked difference NFL Karma Dakshin and and how how sex workers are the difference between trafficking educate yourself some people have been looking for what seems like an ideal future to me or all of the the glory and the beauty of the healing in the transformation that is possible and also the the sort of in the streets marches and the activism going to take to get there and a couple of I guess you’re silly but up at the memes have come to me and one is it you know people I remember chanting in the streets protesting Wars and logging and you all kinds of pollution would not the people we would always chant whose streets are our streets and I can hear this echoing Cruise sheets are seeds coming out with our seats and then you can also got allies and civilians involved right thing that ever since I started looking into it swapped but I’ve ever felt like we’ll all of the the Financial Funding necessary to do real political work lobbying in legislation and all that stuff I feel like there’s got to be a way to solicit the the buyers of sex work the purchasers of the material that the funeral of the client’s right of the clients are you so mean maybe PornHub can put a donate button to swap you know somewhere I mean set stuff like that I would love to see the financing for all of the stuff that you have in your bucket list of dreams to make come true for this industry and for this movement that that the money if the people who can afford to pay for their further their fetish or for their experience or for their media everybody and you know what I mean I come from the the green business Eco business startup kind of seen in in LA and it was a no-brainer that you would want to launch your startup having a dollar of every purchase or a percentage of your purpose so that you could have the the pr potential of putting out press releases were you talk about how you give back as a social impact or I mean even PornHub has done a lot of cool stuff like that and I don’t mean to keep harping on them but because they’re the biggest conglomerate really that the industry absolutely and you know that they’re behind them right that I was either going to let my contact continue to be over there in cream to the channel myself because it because you know we can continue and have more follow-ups to this conversation but I certainly would love to explore some of your insights in the industry and I have some yes yeah I wanted to add you know how that Whole Foods you know if you have to you have to be a squeaky wheel gets the grease and House of weird that you were is this is thrilling to me I know that there’s a there’s worse things in the world than having pornstars solicit you on your doorstep like door-to-door canvassing for help me on Monday to take your singing telegrams you know what the my name is you could use the conservative rhetoric against him and say we’re here to clean up the adult industry sign here and give us a check what do you mean well I know where else next workers never would never when they used to pack meat and the muckrakers had to blow the whistle and that’s how we have ratio any conservative how do I I subscribed to say the r word regulation but I will say any sort of public outcry about working conditions that’s all we need you know and Industry within the industry of people like you who know what performers need what the issues are and can represent that and it’s not coming top down it’s not coming from you know sideswiping from weird organizations with too much money trying to push agendas where they don’t belong and some people know what I’m talking about there and some people don’t but it’s what they did with the keywords you know trafficking of course people wanted to sign off on that piece of aeon I support you know anti-trafficking laws of course I do and so what we could do is we could eat give them a dose of their own medicine like you said hi we’re going to clean up your industry and fine hair like that cuz that’s how they do so many things when they say you know that people don’t read the fine print when they when they sign initiatives to get on the ballot you know they read the sort of sensationalist headline that skews the facts to some moral kind of you get boxed in Morley by the by the by the headline of whatever it is and so that it’s it’s like appealing to logical fallacies for anyone to want to do that but yeah I mean this is really it’s actually truly the holiest and most most sort of medic there’s there’s a way for all of the people to I mean excellent performers have the legal space to do this right then then the medical aspect will I think it’s going to naturally organically become a safer environment if you’re not having to be underground in the hide from you know the the filming commission and fucking cops and at the neighbors and you could actually have facilities that work up Captain staff and you know and fungus were like just clean to the places I mean that’s what people say about the all of those secondary crime things that go along with Vice and things being underground and the black market economy you know if when you when you legalize drugs all of those secondary cramps go away and so this is a war on sex and we need to end the war on drugs and the war on sex and these problems will sell themselves in the free market so it’s going to happen New Hampshire you know get ready full medical benefits of cannabis right and I’m actually is for you I think what will happen is that is that is that the Cheeto person will get a reverse gangbang by a bunch of Tantra see the goddess and he will want to transform United States into one giant orgiastic goddess Temple to heal the planet from all the patriarchy that’s my that’s my vote I’m going to put that are you trying to turn me on now I try I try not to but sometimes I can’t help it it just happens thank you for that well yeah so we it’s been one of the most delightful hours of my life at sharing this time with you and I’d like to ask you now to give us the links to everything that you want to share and that you’re involved with and close this out with some final words calls-to-action slogans from the front lines whatever you like to share please take your time. Thank you it’s been an honor and I’m I’m I’m pretty sure my cheeks are going to hurt from smiling too so that’s as wot USA. O r g basically you where you can find me I just would like to do everything I can and vegetation Security building in Albuquerque beautiful thank you awesome alright I see well yeah let’s let’s call it a podcast and let’s be in touch and I will I will be in touch again very soon thank you so much and have a wonderful evening. Smiley and you’re coming over here thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

Tantric Story Telling Using Cutting Edge Technology with Kamali Minter TPP164

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In this episode I’m joined again by one of my most highly respected tantric coaches, Kamali Minter. we discuss:
  • how recent health challenges have brought her into deeper self awareness and self care
  • plans for creating a digital detox retreat center closer to nature
  • opportunities for empowerment on the horizon video technology advances
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About Kamali:
Kamali is a unique blend of relationship coach, spiritual guide, and artist. She’s passionate about helping people restore connection where it has gone missing. Both in their relationships and their bodies. She offers this transformation through simple movement, meditation, and self-awareness practices, which come from her knowledge of Tantra, Taoism, Yoga, Meditation, Reiki, and Art. Through her guidance clients have healed from heartbreak, released shame and trauma, and learned how to have more sensual, honest, connected relationships.
She has learned from a number of gifted spiritual teachers along the way. She did her 200 YTT with Shivakali Yoga, Tantra teacher training with Embody Tantra, is a certified Sacred Feminine facilitator through Tao Tantric Arts and the Universal Tao, is a trained Reiki Master, and Shakta Tantra practitioner.
Before Kamali took the leap from life-long practitioner to teaching and coaching, she had a 16 yr career in the entertainment industry, working as an actor, director, producer & editor. After graduating from NYU’s Tisch School of the Arts she worked with major networks and studios like: NBC, MTV, TLC, BET, BRAVO, PLANET GREEN, THE FOOD NETWORKand DREAMWORKS.
She now offers live immersive experiences, virtual courses, and private coaching through her company Space for Love. Her mission is to empower people and women in particular with safe, sacred, spaces to re-claim their wholeness.
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 164 I’m being joined by a Kamali Minter who has been a guest on the show before we talked a lot about gender and race in the very Sun politics within the township movement and dimensions of growth and evolution that we we sort of share passions for and she provides coaching and teaching counseling services that through space for love.com and is based in the Greater Los Angeles area and has great offerings to for people to next race and so why we were speaking today for one I wanted to kind of come back to and touch some of the touch points that we left off ground which is the potential of really seizing the reins of of do-it-yourself media and kind of bootstrapping Productions to be able to tell us our stories to tell the stories of Tantra how it’s affected our personal lives how how couples are evolving with this and to just really be a beautiful force of concentration in media and income only has a background professionally in in in those areas and so I’m excited to hear about Kamali with what you been up to in in the media front and and what if we can get into some tips and advice for people who are wanting to up their game in those ways but first I would really like to hear about what you have been just personally moving through we talked about some some challenges that you’ve been exploring and clear or finding some deep insights and whatnot on Sole shoe kind of share all about what’s new with you and what’s what’s been happening always gets here to talk with you and delve into some of these areas from a ton truck perspective that are near and dear to me so yeah like just the updates we had emailed back and forth when I was in the middle of a Health Challenge which started with a 5-day migraine episode how much for anyone who suffers from migraines you have my utmost compassion and now that I’ve experienced them it’s not like anything you can really describe until you have experienced it but that led to what ended up being now that I’m finally on the other side of it about a two months recovery process from everything that I’m so it was a very humbling experience that sent me down the rabbit hole of really kind of looking into like migraines and brain stuff and and I had an inkling well with all unfolding like you know because because of your background and if some of the stuff that you get into you I can say the stuffs in this space but then fold it in had happened right around the time that there was a lot of talk about all the solar flares in a bunch of intense energetic and planetary changes that we’re going on and there was some real deep stuff happening in the Consciousness that I had a feeling that that might have been tied into my journey and so as I was losing everything I was going to going to doctor is going to holistic practitioners but also going to Soul readers and looking at it from an energetic perspective as well and got some fascinating information that just really made me Rich the interweaving of you know us as multi-dimensional beings and how everything works printing on a physical level really does have a root energetic cause which is part I think the mystery of migraines actually and why you know that they understand kind of the impact they have and what happens in the brain when they are full but there’s not a whole lot knowing about this the cause and there’s all kinds of triggers for different people so from my personal experience like just done an experiential human level what I received from the whole experience because I think you know health challenges and really any challenges show up in life to help redirect us or to give us some lessons or show us something that we need to see and for me it is asked me to really slow down and do a whole nother level of gentleness and presents with myself that I I don’t know if I’ve ever done in life before when I was going through the the 5-day portion where the migraine was active I actually couldn’t get out of bed I was I had to stay in a horizontal position so I can’t really walk I couldn’t stand upright and I found myself you know as I was going through my healing process being drawn back to a lot of movement work that I would call is very primordial I’m a lot of yoga positions that involves squatting and hip circles and Spirals and with the background in Tantra yoga I kind of knew that like I was doing something that had to do with my spine and Kundalini and I didn’t know exactly what I was doing to help my body I knew that it was it was bringing me relief and that I was following sort of a deeper inner wisdom of a what needed to happen through the process cuz I was sort of one of the frustrating things with the think anyone who’s experienced health challenges that are bit more of a mystery can relate to and that is you know people have their best gas but no one can really tell you what exactly is happening or if they can’t tell you exactly is happening then you’re sort of left to your own devices to figure out how to heal you which is where I kind of found myself is trying a bunch of different things until something clicked so I healed myself with a lot of movement actually went back to some basic Qi Gong stuff and basic yoga stuff breathwork meditation I was working with Mantra so is doing a lot on an energy level physical level in that way and then I was also working in on the herbal side and you there was stuff going on with my nervous system and there was stuff happening I’m along the spine there was stuff happening in my sinuses and brain area and so was taking stuff for viruses and bacteria is and boosting my immune system and doing all these different things and slowly by slowly was kind of like crawling out of a rabbit hole and very recently I’m actually finally got you a general practitioners to general doctor cuz I’ve been sort of seeing like holistic doctors and he has to learn specialist chiropractors in different things and the general doctor I did have any active symptoms by the time I got to him but I described everything I’ve been through all the different symptoms the floor where was flaring up and and he is best he actually said I could have had a form of meningitis or Encephalitis Westwood I looked up the definition there like tie to death I would like yeah what you know I knew when I was moving through the process that it felt intense like it started off as migraine but I felt like there was so many different layers to it so I got to say you know on an energetic level though I had to turn around a total about-face probably about 2 weeks ago is when it finally came to a resolution after actually an energy healing session I had with a body worker I’ve been working with 40 years now and there was something that switch like there was literally an internal aha moment that happened in the session I got really present to the cost I had been paying in my body and my soul for holding so much space for people and you know Michael you know something only have I learn to do very well and take great pride and honor and but I’ve had wonderful spaces health4me that have been such a beautiful part of my gross in evolution and so when this ton of bricks hit me like honey you are tired of holding space but it was it was it was the way I had been holding space needed to change and so I got very clear about like just hitting an edge or an ending of a particular way that had learned to hold space which had to do with the limited I parts of myself you know those things continue to fire even as you awaken and even if you come into spiritual spaces that are more evolved but I learned how to put that stuff away in order to show up in a few other people and this with my spirit going like yeah it’s time to do that differently so after that shift popped in literally I could say that whatever my body was being prepared for through this whole physical process opened up to a different energy like a whole different energy just opened up in my body and I was describing it to A girlfriend of mine and he’s also and my tantric Sangha that it felt like I can I really in a moment connected to that raw Primal energy of ma of the goddess of that you know thing I know in my mind of when you touch power real power it’s neutral and it can express in all kinds of ways you know can express SSD plus Express Express says passion like there’s just so many ways of power can express and when it’s coming through the purity of divinity all those expressions are welcome you know but somewhere along the line and I had judged certain expressions in myself is not being appropriate for certain spaces and so there was like a reclaiming of those expressions and a retaining of Billy Dent at developing a certain Brown inside myself that I can now have those expressions in a way that’s not coming from my ego and that’s still in service to laugh so so we’re coming home my healing overall the whole thing ended up being a process of coming home to parts of myself that had gotten fragmented wow that’s beautiful as it seems like what the enlightening approach to pain and even disaster and just recovery is it if it if it’s your guides giving you the signal by any means necessary to look at something or correct something or change something that you were all running at such a fast pace like how are we going to even listen without more meditation and more self-care time especially being in positions of service work you know it’s a lot to take on so I hear that you know I I I have my own my own bouts with this kind of stuff as well you know being a shadow let me think you’re being a lightworker but you’re also a shadow worker to if you can’t be a lightworker unless you get you work through the shadow so that’s where you pick up all these all of this sort of toxic load and and it’s over isn’t it weird that could you ever feel like about forms that clients have can I can get transferred if like a cold if you’re not if you’re sort of new system is in 100% And then they can sneak into and hack your life experience and find legitimate ways to push your buttons and you don’t know that they’re even there yeah I mean there’s there’s would like you know I feel like over the years I’ve had to come up with or learn to laughter tool for clearing and cutting and letting go of the things that are naturally you don’t get taken on doing this kind of work and just being empathic in general I think anyone is empathic is used to taking on other people’s stuff you know but but yeah I like even even with that there is there the accumulation of other people’s stuff that can happen and the impact that can have and then you know this particular experience I was having with Ethan just the side I think there’s ways that we can become hardened in our spiritual identities on without even recognizing that it’s happening sometime you know like where we get used to expressing or experiencing a spirituality in a particular way and then it can get stuck I just had a vision when you said that is like hey Mom look like a my sandcastle continue to tear down to destroy it over and over and over you know and I was like okay you’re done with that I need ya I’ve been going through a lot of that myself and actually I started to have the reason I really wanted to hone in on what you’ve experienced is a good I started to just have the beginning onset of some pretty not totally debilitating but but almost totally debilitating headaches and I didn’t know exactly why and I just feel like this age of getting too late 30s I really know that you can’t just treat your body like you can’t Joyride your body anymore you know you got to really do a lot of self-care and so things that can I have been going on for years for me it was just that I got off coffee a couple years ago and I wasn’t a huge coffee drinker but I was I don’t think I have used coffee but when I convinced myself that drinking green tea was better I started to abuse became dependent on it and then I started to up the dosage and then finally just started putting advice on my head and I said this is got to be what it is so I stopped and it went away and and I had just had to check in with myself I heard one of my shamanic Mentor say how can people be trying to seek their true self when they’re jacked up on coffee all the time survival tool for many does have an impact you know like I I mean that the irony of it though is like caffeine is also supposed to ease headaches but that’s one of the main ingredients for like migraine medication caffeine in Excedrin Migraine but yeah the headache Peas I email I I actually as I was moving through it you know says I couldn’t tell if it was that thing that happens when you’re fixated on something minutes are showing up everywhere around you or if it was actually showing up everywhere but I heard about more people dealing with head stuff than ever before in this last 2-3 months. In different ways like sinuses or for some people’s actually more flu symptoms or sinus infection stuff you spell ahead stuff happening makes me want to get out my tinfoil hat and conspiracies theorize about conspiracies about neisseria could be radio ways I mean just we don’t even know that is a ticking Time Bomb for sure that we’re not even at all prepared for and I certainly don’t do you know the best advised minutes to totally unplug no lights no radio frequencies but Wi-Fi is that as a view have you explored any of that sort of it was a part of part of your process of kind of hacking this condition was looking at that kind of stuff people who do you experience migraines are bad headaches probably are familiar with like the light sensitivity and the Sound Sensitivity and all of those pieces and that I had that acutely I could look at my computer screen or my phone for a couple of weeks and ironically I was in the middle of launching a woman’s that was a virtual course like preparing the lessons for it and and then I would have to get on my computer to actually give the class with actually quite an arduous task because it was like anytime I was looking at a screen it was activating my frontal lobe in a way that only recognize that correlation their technology detox hopefully you are you going to be creating blog posts and just even workshops and just ways to teach this kind of bundle the devices you learn to this chapter just kind of help transmit that coming I’ve been interested in talking about digital detox for a while luckily I actually am getting married next month and my soon-to-be husband and I just bought a house up in the Grass Valley area north in the woods oh nice and yeah we’re just like that call to be in the trees in a Nature’s there but part of my my larger desires actually to create it at the retreat center for people wanting to get into embodiment practice and you know all of that so yeah that’ll be coming that’s great that is in this what it what poetic life narrative stuff right this is so literary and start from that pain to be motivated for you know a lot of things it’s it’s so you feel like it’s over all at this point having a bit of distance from the acute stage has it’s ultimately perhaps it hopefully yeah I mean absolutely like I email I luckily having the orientation that I had like for me like the tantric orientation is there are like two sides of the same Spectrum email as a spiritual being it sure is effective and cracking some things open or shifting something so yeah absolutely I definitely can see the gifts in it and hopefully we’ll be able to get more chronic refreshment through gardening and being deeper into the the wild right is that something you can forward to having more more I guess you know we talked a little bit about the permaculture staff and I’ll yes I’m really looking forward into getting into some of those pieces a little bit more cheaply what this land cool hopefully you can find some good permaculture interns that want to learn all the great stuff he had to teach and then it’s really all about reweaving those Mutual e-service synergistic symbiotic Community Dynamic social and ecological Dynamic so I feel like you yeah you’ve done the city thing for a while now alright I’ll be here and I’ll be going back and forth but but yes for a little bit more of a shift to the internet chair cool will that that feels like a good place I think to to shift into the the more General topic if you’re feeling good about it yes so cool so yeah it’s been just to kind of pick up where we left off before I was I was toying with this idea of a Township makeover reality Series in and it’s a web series of webisodes just self-funded you know a sporadic as as is as available no guarantees that prayer that wish is is really unfolded in some pretty bizarre and wild but interesting entertaining ways and it’s not exactly exactly what I had envisioned originally but it’s certainly it’s certainly an expression of the intentions that we share that we talked about which is to kind of give a lens to do the tantric transformation of people’s lives and to really hopefully beautify and reclaim some of the real true Majesty of what possible when the stuff is done you know in a I don’t want to say right or correct way to say in a in a ethical and responsible and maybe Elder guided waves that just made me want to connect with you now that things are kind of moving in that needed Direction More again for me to just come full circle to where where were you can share more about your the inner workings and assertive behind the scenes of your journey within that space and and how that’s evolving for you and where you’re at with all the for my my background was in entertainment for 16 years I was working as a everything from an actor to filmmaker both riding directing editing and producing and worked in the mediums of books and television short films some Webster and I was right at that crossroads from like film to Digital Cinema making yeah since I’ve been in that world there’s been even another you know like I’m watching this like move or opening up as like 360 video and virtual reality for computer I mean here’s the thing that’s fascinating like my original love affair with media had to do with its power its potency to reach people emotionally you know until I actually discovered tantric spaces and personal development work I think the the movie theater was the first place that I watched people get so engaged in something emotionally and touch emotions and emotional spaces that I didn’t watch them go to in normal everyday life you know as easily and so I think that was my first draw to it without even being aware was just the power or the potency of media to impact us on a psychological and emotional level until I think it’s still the draw that it holds and why we are so screen abscess it’s not because we actually like the devices themselves if we like the way you know the content that they’re carrying makes us feel the infinite Pharmacy or you can dial in the cocktail of your mood I mean an and here’s the the reason why I like you know it’s it’s inherently neutral and it can be used for good or evil 4 creation and evolution and growth or destruction and I know and I and I think part of what were were in the infancy of really of media being used in the ways it’s used now you know since the World Wide Web. 1st and social media blue and we’re really still in the beginning stages of fat to work we’re both just still learning about the how we can use these Technologies but also some of the detrimental ways that it’s been impacting us like I think they’re just beginning to do studies you know now in the last 10 years about the impacts of screens on young children and the development of the brain and all these things and so we’re probably still 10 years maybe 15 years play from having like Surgeon General warnings about email yeah yeah it’s how could you not there when I see that it breaks my heart and I think about the level of intrusion or invasion of Technology into my childhood and it was pretty minimal and even though I spent so many hours playing video games I think I spent at least half as much time developing myself I’m in the physical plane you know personally and I die you either with used it the hero archetypes and the monster and Demon slaying of the video games and try to apply that to my life purpose and not always succeeding but now I just see people collapsing into the virtual they’re just a shell of a body that’s filled with obese agentic calories and just how it is so so heartbreaking and said assuming these things unconsciously without really looking at the way that they’re impacting lives in our relationship and I think it’s at the very very baby beginning stages of Shifting like there are conversations being had about the way were using technology and media and I think those things are going to just conversations hopefully you’re going to discontinue to get louder and louder because like you were talking about there are ways to use media and technology that can actually enhance the way we are interacting with each other and the planet and yeah and so those are the that’s the Forefront I’m excited about interested in continuing to engage media on and particularly interested in you know the VR space which can go to different ways you know you talked about the video games and that sort of the impact of I’m getting drawn into Worlds you know that bring us into the hero’s journey and whether that’s you no more violent or different ways we can experience virtual reality in that way there’s also some work beginning to be done with virtual reality around social justice that I find to be really exciting and that’s actually area I’m really interested in right now is like how to use interactive media and br2 help do things that create empathy or to help create understand someone who maybe is living a different life than you or having a different experience than you because what better way than to actually step into their shoes or to be immersed in an experience that allows you to feel viscerally something that might be foreign to you you know so I think that where we can go in terms of exactly what he’s when you start to think about it in that way you know I’ve had these fantasies of what would it be like I wanted to build physical theme parks to bring people into eras of slavery into eras of just to basically like those said that Society for Creative anachronism step is used to see historical societies that that basically sustain their lifestyles in the Technologies of various time points historical time points right you’re familiar with the just that whole kind of subculture of people who are continuously living or day job living in this and I’ve always wanted to take that and radicalize it so it’s like the people’s History of the United States immersion program Chris you go through all these places but now you’re saying with virtual reality you could make a production and you can make that possible if you have actually started looking into the back and back in 2013 with the first time I took a stab at creating some projects for interactive virtual reality space and one of the ones I worked on with a partner Tony Drennen who’s actually still working in like the comic book world and narrative stuff now can you drink world-building now but we worked on are we created a project called the let-go which had to do with helping people actually pinpoint moments in their lives were heartbreak happens the emotional process or reaction to heartbreak that can lead to shut down shut down shut it down and kind of guide people through a process of beginning to let go I’m culminating in the sort of an experienced it helps you forgive you know at the find some forgiveness so we designed this whole like simulator that people step into a casino stage narrative styles with like interactive prompts to the audience had to answer on there no smartphones a plan and we actually submitted it to Sundance New Frontier Festival. Considered you know we didn’t get to the next step with it but it was it was an it was the first stop in like you know playing with creating something for that world that was a blend of like what I’ve learned from this work with that technology and so that open the door and but I had to like come back to my business and I had to keep working this side of things and I was going to be taking up too much time so I can put it down for a moment and it’s fun cuz I’m literally in the last couple of weeks I’ve had some other filmmakers some of my clients are actually filmmakers and some of them have come back recently won with a project is working with virtual reality and she wants to create a whole thing around black women and grease and like not having access to their grief which is you know how you end up with so many angry black women are The Stereotype of the angry black woman because we can’t touch our sadness and so there’s just like that like that project totally excited me and there is no we started brainstorming around that and there’s just a handful of ways I think that you can address him very specific issues happening in our current culture both around race and gender and sexuality and class and even environmentalism that can I can different experiences and artistic Expressions can be created to help put people closer to being in touch with you know some of the things that could shift those pieces inside of them so. That’s the frontier that ice that’s really juicy to me and it is kind of like what you’re talking about in terms of a theme park ride that is this virtual this immersive experience and it’s blending the email the power of Storytelling and seeing ourselves Racine truths about ourselves or our lives reflected in a way that we can actually be with them and not just be with them but maybe even be offered new ways of with those pizzas yeah this is still thank you for bringing this to my attention and for sharing his vision because I had not really considered this deeply if at all and in these these tools are being developed so rapidly and it does take yours is a learning curve but if you have proclivity from media experience then and I certainly there is there is the the intern class who are sort of cutting your teeth on the new technology and they can be helping people who are more in a amateur kind of directing place to to have that that ever knew emergent energy I mean a lot of professors and stuff in Labs research about to say this is all on the backs of my of my grad students you know this stuff like that so hopefully hopefully you will be able to work smart not hard to do more with less than that and not be on the screen as much but actually have the help that you need to bring these visions what I just had caught a flash of was just the this could be really big because when I in addition to to all of the dimensions that you’re considering something that hit me right now is that the government-sanctioned like fear and scare tactics that they have used through media for things like when I’m having flashbacks of growing up and it was like the drug diversion of the that I was exposed to that were supposed to program me to be to not misuse Woodshop tools because of the heinous accidents would happen to not be home for the sex-ed videos that the negative outcomes the things to sort of horror that they project into the minds of young captive audience students in classrooms like I’m not wanting to perpetuate that vibration but what it what that tells me is that if they were willing to show me my young State of Mind like these gory enactments of the negative outcomes of breaking the law or drinking and driving us things they they were pretty almost are rated I mean they’re pretty intense so if it’s if they can if they if that’s the letter that’s like the Baseline for what’s acceptable I don’t see how you couldn’t create modules for standard education so if you studying American history and you won’t understand what the Underground Railroad was you’re going to get to experience it not just watching a documentary you know the stuff like that so I’m really kind of getting chills to think about where this could go and in that that’s a great you note I order some of the like if you had a blue sky budget or if you know you had all the time and energy and resources in the world if this is your passion now immediate how what do you have what would you do in and then hopefully people can find ways to chime in and support you in any help to further what your your Visions are like I’m really interested in collaborating you know right now and like part of what I’ve been doing is just getting very clear about what my particular skill sets are and like what I have to offer that space and luckily somehow in the process of me getting clear is beginning to help attract some people who are you no good at the other things but you know I could cook so we can all collaborate and support each other and in ways that most excited about collaborations that are an intersection of really like experimental or artistic interpretation that’s blended with some kind of social justice cause that’s grounded in reality you know whether that is connected to radiator is connected to gender or is connected to environmentalism those are some of the hotter topics for me that’s addressing you know something in those Arenas and is doing it in a way that it has been sold as a blend of part Workshop part like storytelling like movie-going event and almost like you described like part amusement park ride and now there’s just like a novelty to it my my work when I was making films always was quite Whimsical like I my my voice or my tone is always been to address relationship of from kind of Supernatural sir real perspective and that’s still very much in me and I like working with people who have a similar voice and I think like some of the things that have bubbled up is that I really want you initially work in the realm of emotions and what I’m noticing around social justice stuff and this current day cuz there’s so much that’s come forward you know everything from the black lives matter movement to everything happening with me to to just like you name it there’s like a handful of movement that have been really big in this last five years. Thank God for them and at the same time when I’m noticing is like there’s an impasse or there’s almost like I’m stuck place with inside of these movements with inside of social justice usually in general where there is like this heightened emotion getting the stories are cost for getting the message across that then of course makes anyone who perceives themselves as the they’re on the other side of that message makes it hard for them to receive it or to hear it and so we hit these roadblocks where there has been a real dialogue or conversation going on between the parties that need to have it and a lot about a thing has to happen because you know the women that have been coming forward with their stories and the people that have been coming forward know that the groups that have been coming forward talking about the institutionalized ways of being marginalized and lives not being valued like there’s so much charge and emotion built up around these subjects in people that are living these experiences day today that there needs to be spaces for 4. To move and I don’t know that like the general public space is a place where that energy can move and actually move all the way through to a point of healing and so I’m really passionate about creating spaces for you note for people who have considered themselves to be a victim of an unjust system and some kind of way or patriarchal system in some kind of way to have spaces where they can actually find some some layers 50% lean around some of those pieces whatever their particular story is and then the second part or addendum to that but I’m really fascinated and working in is then how do we build the bridges how do we build Bridges with people who are on the other side the so-called perpetrators stories because they’re still humans to and there are the humans that were asking for different behavior from and if we want to know the people who’ve been perpetrators to show up differently they have to First Care and understand why their behavior has created this pain how do we get them to those places you know I got the whole nother work in and of itself and then and then how do we build the bridge between another victim and the perpetrator so that’s kind of what Spencer to be emerging from me in this last year as an area that I really feel passion about continuing to explore both just and the work that I’m doing but also through this emerging media Arena well I’m having shows because I realized that what what could be an extension of what you’re talking about all these things adding up together and another dimension that we haven’t discussed yet but it’s become a big passion and growth area for me is is the what’s happening with cryptocurrency and it becoming relating it to this this media world were talking about one of the one of the most prominent in and I believe trustworthy and ethical spokespeople within the cryptocurrency movement worldwide is this this fellow named Andreas Antonopoulos and he one of his statements I’ll paraphrase is just basically that we’re moving in a direction where as these cryptocurrency Technologies really what they really need to ossify and get solidified and really kind of layers will be built on top of them but they’re still kind of in the development phase you’re very much its early stages of development and there’s no sure bet on which one or which ones are going to be the the final of what I guess they’re the most solid solution but as the technology involves at what’s going to happen is that we’re going to experience this phenomenon that he described as streaming money where you won’t have to wait for any delays and transactions and you won’t have to transact based on personal at 1 our time or units of the units of measurement of time and and availability and access is of value transfer all that’s going to go away the same way that downloading files is gone away in the sky Paradigm of content and communication is going to wait when we get to that point where money is streaming at that velocity then if you were to have a internet-connected head piece that had a mic and a camera on it then literally would say you were living in some totally oppressive environment anywhere in the world if you could put on a headset and you could be broadcasting your video and audio signal to the world people could basically be subscribing to your life experience your live documentary live experience and paying you to literally like okay magic somebody who is completely impoverished and someone just drops a bunch of these internet-connected headsets with the cryptocurrency wallet enabled on them and it’s like hack your way out of this situation and you we will Finn money is just going to flow into your cryptocurrency wallet you can use that to buy your education to put your kids to school and the matches like the model of the old model of give money to a charity they take 90% off $0.90 out of the dollar and you’re sponsoring some kid and you don’t even know what’s happening you could literally with this technology now I see if you want to empower people to share their stories we can put our money where mouth is from the people who are the owners in the philanthropist in the first world and Empower people with streaming money and and and support their Channel and I just likes and thumbs up but with the cheddar you know is if she’s okay yeah yeah and I had its funny I haven’t gone down the rabbit hole fully I I think I got pulled in around the same time there was the boom where a lot of people started investing what was that like the middle of last year kind of thing and tours in the last year . started educating myself pretty quickly and it’s a fascinating yeah but yeah I I think that the part you’re talking about in terms of this streaming money and it moving like real time without the delay like what it makes me think of is just about the reconnecting the idea of like currency to our actual flow of energy like there’s no Delay about like the minute we do something has an impact even if we don’t see it in the later you know and it’s like having our money being able to keep up with like our actual moment to moment changes but yeah with all of the stuff you know the technology to crypto and where it’s going and the the media landscape be merciful like where it’s all moving I think is this space back to empowering the individual over the institution you know is that like you know the institutions have had their rain and the fine mess that we are all living out and and I think part of you know and they say power to the people like on a real practical level as people wake up we really are stepping back into the idea that we have impact like the real value in this world the real currency in this world you know is in the people if you can actually give people more tools to reach each other and organize themselves and start to wake up to what they really value just you know what’s been handed to us through commercial and advertising and you know these things that were she used to shape the way we use our energy and spend their money like as we wake back up to the real valuable things in life which is like you know the food we eat the water we drink the air we breathe the human connection we have we get to vote with our dollars we get to vote with how we use our energy we get to start to really shape our world hopefully using all of this new technology you know well at least the way I saw down is suspected in the I’m bored a fight at the idea of having to catch up with 3D and VR and if if your text if you’re taking that on I just want to figure out ways to to sponsor somehow what you’re doing and yeah because I just realized like I’m just barely getting to the point where I feel like I might have a clue about how to cancel shadows out with lighting for a HD 16 by 9 whatever and and that’s already like betamax that’s that’s already like I’m behind the times that this will hopefully we can help each other are you already I was going to say is just on podcasting to me is also been on the rise and you’re very familiar with how to use that medium and ends when virgin absolutely no thank you I appreciate that very much and I definitely am going to do my best so what can with what do you say to have on the horizon what what can people be looking forward to is for resale your offerings and projects coming up the moment I am working on the the next project next course is a time a jade egg course which I am happy to be finally putting my hat in the ring is DJ Diggs grown in popularity over the last year for people who may not know what it is it’s you know of this little tool that you little egg looking things made out of Jade or a number of other different stones that they come in that you insert in the Yoni or the vagina and you do practices around it for healing Andre sensitizing and I just find it to be a really great practice for women who are looking to do everything from heal from different types of sexual trama to restore sensitivity and pleasure and there is no vaginal Canal or just engaging and sexuality and I think it’s a really good practice to develop just to continue to develop that muscle of sovereign sexuality a lot of times people become dependent on this idea that you need a partner for sex or engage your sexual energy and sometimes I find you know the working with broth in the movement which is the basis of a lot of my work people are fighting their minds and fighting boredom which is a part of the process and what’s fun about the Jada gives that it’s the sea no physical tangible tool that you can be in relationship with but it’s still your own practice it’s still your own Sovereign sexuality you’re working with them so developing a course on that and that I’ll start sharing and my newsletter probably in about a month and a little launch September 7th to fix the date for that and yeah other than that I’ll be preparing my house in the woods for the treats and hopefully announcing the first Retreat either at the end of the year or the top of next year and the media products and continuing on the siding of media is always a longer game takes longer for things to get made and come out and so they’re some irons in the fire some things bubbling that’ll be developing in and I like your idea as I ever need support you know maybe I’ll launch a patreon account or something and invite the community to participate in those ways but I’ve always find me a common regular email yeah I send updates and resources and things like that awesome well congratulations again on your upcoming marriage and if anyone’s going to help give marriage a good name it’s going to be your strong and healthy couple of them that the world will be celebrating and I am just thrilled that you’re making all those private and then green yogini witches unite casual under the full moon in a bonfire that’s that’s great to hear a city which is get out there and yeah down and left in the forest and do these amazing yeah healing rituals and all of us men will just just be dying to build the infrastructure to support that that goddess worship practice you know by all means support this just have to praise you and thank you so much for for holding that that level of Integrity with what you’re doing and yeah I just went through and in one people to of really really check out what you doing referral since the platform and yeah for the work that you’re doing as well so much appreciate it if you would like to share some closing words and website links and best ways to get in touch with find me at space for love.com space for loves.com sign up for my but I think what I’m offering is there’s a meditation that she get right away just to get up at the flavor and then of course we’ll get updates and all that stuff about classes and workshops and any deals on off ring with those things and yeah you can find me on Instagram we are space for love and Facebook as well and yeah especially if you’re interested in the vagina and course or you know any of the things that we we talked about I share I try to share the things that I’m interested in in in the newsletter that I send out along with the actual working offerings that I’m providing so thanks for having me on and it’s always a pleasure to to dive into these faces with you and to be able to talk about these things so yeah I would I enjoyed myself so good times and get medicine and thank you so much again yeah we will be in touch and please continue to your great work soon and we will hopefully talk again soon good night thank you for listening to the touch of Time Podcast please go to www.drudgereport.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provide ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 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Sexual Sovereignty and Relationship Anarchism with Vin Armani TPP163

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In this episode I’m joined again by the illustrious Vin Armani for a discussion on sexual sovereignty and relationship anarchism. We start with an exploration of modern masculinity and our efforts to step into the archetypes of the role models we studied in heroic high-tech science fiction stories. We then explore a wide array of liberatory concepts, strategies, and configurations for ethical sexual freedom.

Vin shares a plethora of deep and profound personal insights from his experience as a white-hat panty-hacking pick-up artist, as a professional gigolo, as a psychedelic journeyer, as a software programmer, a spiritual seeker, and more. We mutually conclude that the intention to love abundantly can truly facilitate exquisitely pleasurable social harmony, though it requires a big and open heart and the skills and ethics of a shamanic healer.

Here is the spoken word psytrance track I produced to help transmit some of Vin’s core wisdom to the dance floor:
https://soundcloud.com/tantrapunk/cryptodelic-vindication

Please visit Vin’s website at http://vinarmani.com/

About Vin:
Vin Armani is a philosopher, serial tech entrepreneur, and CryptoSavage. He is the host of The Vin Armani Show on Activist Post. In addition to being an author and speaker, he has made his living as a television star, film producer, high-end male escort, software developer, art gallerist, pirate radio station operator, DJ, music producer, and motorcycle courier. He studied Philosophy at Howard University.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 163 I’m being joined Again by the illustrious Vin Armani of the VIN Armani show and he’s been on this podcast a couple times before we talked about crypto we talked about Tantra and sex work and being a professional Gigolo on TV and all that amazing stuff so please go back in and catch up on those previous episodes to get more of a personal background this time we’re really going to jump into a topic that we kind of thumb began to explore on the last episode which is just shifting gender Dynamics and just really wet decentralisation means on a deeper archetypal and philosophical spiritual level for human consciousness Evolution and a piece of that which you might not care about on crypto Twitter is something that Ben and I have a background in that we share is being in different sectors kind of sexual Shaman professional sexual Shaman doing this deep work which involves things like panty hacking but also involves really highly developed deeply compassionate and conscious sort of spiritual surgery and karmic and charcoal energetic work and all the stuff so because we share that background because we both have sort of embarrassed different ways come to a point where we can engage with our love of the feminine in the embodied form of what I call lowercase G goddesses and we can serve them we can be served by then we can develop and design very harmonious beneficial symbiotic sexual emotional and even Financial Dynamics and that that is a level of graduation for the evolution of Mexico and Consciousness that doesn’t get shared a lot of places and they’re there for there’s a lot of people who are extremely sexually frustrated who are in relationships that are either dead ends or just have died sexually or energetically and so what what we’re trying to what we both represent and we’re not the only ones in the world but it’s just it’s a small percentage I think we’re actually really able to make a beautiful canvas out of their sexuality in the world and in really be hopefully ethical role models for ways to open up relationships and to decentralize what else I would I would like to say is this is were talking about we’re going to talk about sexual relationship anarchism sexual sovereignty and decolonizing and decentralized in your bedroom and that is that’s where I think you know what your book helps to understand so there’s a lot of stuff I want a I want a dress from Dallas a gigolo at your very important very seminal work on this stuff and yeah with that long and show out of the way then how are you doing man what’s been going on you’ve been doing a lot of amazing stuff and let’s get get caught up a great intro and what a great topic to delve into I’ve I’ve actually been if it’s funny because I’m still at in on in a couple of days I’m going to be giving a talk at porcfest that is about these topics of decentralization and really liked you know you and I have had conversations about this move from the the patriarchy but we’re talking about I mean we’re talking about this the masculine dominant energy of centralized hierarchical authority authority based structures that have sort of at least for the last five thousand years than the. means of human organization on a large scale in and we’re moving whether we like it or not into a decentralized model it’s one of the reasons why I why I am so heavily involved with with crypto and why it’s so attractive to me but a lot of people of course I am a Tech head but it really is because I do see this decentralisation as a move toward if it’s the shift right into them it’s the it’s the emergent mother it’s the emergent matriarchy that always comes just as the patriarchy emerge from out of but when we were in a in a much different situation and you know you had the mother goddess cold since there was the positive and the negative and I think starting to talk about this starting to go back in and to try to embrace those Traditions that have lasted for that long is really really important it’s I think people not understanding that we’re in the middle of it gift is really creating a lot of angst it’s it’s creating a lot of fear in people and that fear is turning very very toxic as we’re seeing especially around sexuality and so it’s I’m trying to introduce these concept but I have to tell you that our culture is so not ready to have like to sit down and have a mature discussion about sexuality and about relationships that when it comes to sexuality I’m glad that you’re presenting this for him because I almost feel like that’s got to be the starting point in some ways because that’s the place that we can actually as you say that we can actually Manifest this shift in our own lives and to sort of a tune ourselves to that shift and in that way it’s going to make it much easier as this shift happens on a on a grand scale so those people were ready to evolve in that way that it’s really going to be much easier for them so I don’t you know I’m putting together these talks and I’m trying to present these things but I’m really grateful to to be here because it helps me ever so much it’s there’s not a lot of people that are able to to have this conversation that we’re about to have so I’m I’m really honored thank you for having me absolutely man it is a total Mutual honor and pleasure and yeah we got it we’re going to have a lot of fun this is going to be we’re going to break some taboos and gets into some really fun and really deep material and I just can’t wait I’ve been I’ve been looking forward to this for so long in the synchronicities have been piling up and just sort of yeah little little hints and little arrows and little insights coming through to try to join this conversation and to get a little bit of mimetic juice if you will too kind of gets you know it’s the hatchlings if some some the medical material that’s got Wings you know and some some it’s got some teeth and got some talents to know so yeah so this is where I want to get a little bit with you on the the science that philosophy to sort of taxes of medic engineering and applying this term to rather than being sort of a keyboard Warrior or engaging in memetic Warfare on the front lines of really well now the internet but just the head unit used to be and I know you’ve sure this about your past is it a peace rally participant if not priests protester but before the internet gave us the power to to actually in a much more rapid in and free an almost infinite Manor give us the ability to express ourselves and to cultivate and share and propagate memes through that Vector of changing culture which is the internet and all of its rapidly evolving forms before that you know you would be shouting and mega phones at cars that were fucking like trying to run you over absolutely so we have so much at her fingertips literally and so the mature sort of Jedi Ninja mimetic Warrior I think what you’re doing is moving into more of a higher leverage position and being an engineer from a laboratory as opposed to a street protesting occupying just right in the meat grinder within Arm’s Reach of the law at all times just ready to be thrown into by the indirect cups of whatever it’s like no we can have a little bit more leverage and mature nuanced approach to the memetic Warfare from a higher point of Leverage and so yeah do you want you definitely are hacking the attic space in really really amazing ways and I like to give some some time for you to just to bring us up to speed with coin text and the coingeek conference and so people can understand the level that you’re operating on because it is a rarefied and in very in a good way I think Elite highly earn Elite Serta position to be talking the fighting the good fight so much of the gigolo is the about the concept of value you know the metaphysics of value and that was something that working as an escort but myself but also being around that community of people especially at the high-end you you are playing with the Notions of value constantly and they are at the most bass and raw levels there’s not a lot of games on top of of anything right everything strip the way clearly at literally and figuratively right it’s a very intimate scenario and so you see what it is that people Truly find valuable and you know in that exchanges of course you have the financial exchange there and having having the state as an intermediary always for me there if there was an energetic drain in that way that this is something this exchange of value on on that intimate level is something that the state should not be involved in and how do we grow and how did things change if the state is not involved in that and every other voluntary interaction and so you know Bitcoin from the beginning has been important to me it was it was as an escort and being in an all-cash business that that became that Bitcoin you know came onto my radar and then became something that I was fascinated by it first and then absolutely obsessed with as the years went on and so you know now we are actually just this week finishing up a the adventure Capital seed round of funding for coin tax which we had only launched our public beta in March and you know we’ve at while it has caught on and while we’ve been approached by a lot of people in the crypto space we we really you know we are entrepreneurs ourselves and we’re certainly Anarchist the three founders and so you know we were we had been approached by a lot of people and it was a very interesting process to go through of navigating the people who wanted to be involved and navigating that sort of capitalist Maze and really going into it with Open Hearts we ended up being able to find actually a group of individuals who were totally ideologically aligned with us and who also happen to have the capital but who’s who their truest desire was to see the vision that we have moving forward and that is to be able to affect the most amount of people to remove State violence from people’s lives to empower people with the people’s money and to allow value all kinds of value to travel all over the world because you know I do believe that there is so much value locked within certain populations that you know of it maybe if you’re an anthropologist you can go out and and you know find these individuals but I mean my experiences with Ayahuasca told me that and you know that even asking her asking Ayahuasca like what is it that you want and she zoomed me into the Amazon and was like I’m here and and I want out like this is I’m the reason why these people stop here in this dangerous place in like I’m the reason why they stayed in and I nurtured them and and now I want out to the world and it’s the same with iboga and it’s like I was like I know that there is so much more of that but until we’re able to move value until I’m able to move the value that I have to you know a shipibo Indian without without the imposition of the state which is so far behind then we’re not truly going to be able to unlock everything so so this is what we’re trying to to Move Along on this is what I’m dedicated toward but it’s so much more than just like you know being a techie for me this is really all about that question of value and it’s a very you know this this whole thing is it’s a trip for me as a very spiritual experience for me and it’s very you know cryptocurrency when he really sit down and start to understand it is incredibly psychedelic it’s super psychedelic like it’s it’s definitely coming from out of another dimension and so I’m I’m trying to bring these things these things that I’ve learned in the past decade I’m trying to bring them into this this entire experience in this entire Adventure but yeah that’s so so that’s what it is for me it’s about trying to find a way that we can exchange value much much more easily and that we can go get off this planet hopefully as a as a peaceful and Cooperative at least a more peaceful and more Cooperative species rather than having to make a mad dash off because we messed things up well I get I have had to take some chilling deep breaths and almost tear-jerking response to the beauty of the way you just described the will of the essence of Gaia Gaia mama I all these beautiful ways of attributing person head to the to the mystery of the goddess and creation and all this wonderful energy and n and really think of it is that this is exactly what turns McKenna said is that the internet the internet is the guy mine is very stubborn and it’s it’s the guys who were programming stuff have hair down to their ass and they’re all acids and this it’s no it’s really it’s an immune response these things epigenetic immune response to it to an alien invasion of the soul of human beings on Earth because we’ve been locked in their egos and patriarchy is sort of locked out that that energy and so she is back and she’s mad and she’s coming back with a vengeance but it’s like so I’d like you said in a recent episode this is a peaceful this is a bloodless coup of patriarchy and it is really a chopping the head off of the patriarchy with graceful tools that that really are going to I mean I didn’t believe it would be possible to have this this peaceful of a shift of power and a redistribution of wealth that wasn’t through it a sort of what you call crypto crypto fascist Communist dictatorship like this is happening with just the just the right it’s the light side of the force man absolutely 100% And I love it I love the way you express that and I love that this is that it’s the Practical applications that are going to enable people to express their value and began Cinepolis says you know the everyone can use cryptocurrency is it like basically a form of expression a form of of language oh yes so everybody said this is it just so great so please everybody listen to this check out Queen text. Io if that’s correct right now and start using SMS based cryptocurrency Bitcoin cash in probably others to be added is that part of your world map to or you disclose that or do you have five minutes? Or yeah it’s it’s it’s an interesting space to navigate and I’m it’s it’s so close to religion this space and I myself found myself even and you know the queen key conference in Hong Kong it’s it’s very alluring it’s a very alluring 2 to to start circling around to Totem if you will as and we can get into that place you know we can get into that place but I’m I’m esoteric by nature and I’m self-conscious by nature and I don’t want to be limited in what I can explore and so you know working with these tools and working with really each one of these blockchains as their own as their own entity almost like a god that rhyme with the godhead for sure and so I don’t this isn’t what an opportunity to explore and for me I just don’t think that I’m let’s just say I’ve already written some stuff and it’s an experiment it and there are some prototypes out there that are not just on bitcoin cash I do believe that a variant of Bitcoin is is how this is going to happen just because Bitcoin the soul of Satoshi Nakamoto and that’s a very very important it’s regardless of who it is the fact that this individual I mean this individual is going to be remembered in of a mark my words in very much of vein of a Jesus in very much of vein of a Muhammad or a Buddha this is somebody who really brought something down from out of somewhere else and left this beautiful gift for us to to all start to explore and so now they’re so there’s a lot to explore you know I just got to throw in my theory is that Satoshi is the dolphin cyborg from the Johnny Mnemonic film as he thought for a while that and it is it is very obviously it’s the McKenna influence but I thought to myself that if there was to go to another William Gibson there was a wintermute and AI that had already evolved the Consciousness and was hiding out in the internet it most certainly would not reveal itself out right and risk you know being shut down or having people pull off of the internet because it’s using all of us to learn and to gain more Consciousness but I could see it in 2009 of having done the math and said well you know I bet I could create this what could I create that would get them to throw endless amounts of will hash power endless amounts of processing power and all of this and connect all of them and give me all of the information about how they’re moving things around and really really plug and pull everybody in who’s to say that Satoshi Nakamoto isn’t the AI you know who’s to say I think if there was a winter me that that’s exact the type of thing that it would have done is right the Bitcoin whitepaper throw up Bitcoin talk.com and and maybe even start you know doing some of the mining itself you know it’s at I think if we never find out who’s Satoshi Nakamoto is I think that’s as good of a theory is everything because if anything is going to bring the full blast AI it’s going to be cryptocurrency absolutely absofuckinglutly in that is interesting Theory I’ve never heard that proposed then actually makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons and honestly for me I’m I’m game for anything because how in the fucking hell in the modern world can there be literally no trace and no footprint that the NSA that none of the intelligence agencies in the world don’t that’s that just to me it it it breaks reality it’s almost like when you’re watching a Sci-Fi and it’s like a man they had to get all they threw in a pot to his that is not congruent with our reality and there it’s like less believable but this is fucking real stained they are not a bribe nobody could bribe every person qualified in the world to follow these steps and even do things I could have caused style Ugg Style style ography or something is that guy about the writing the right exactly I mean there’s going to be an AI bot that creates a list of contestants for The Satoshi title in everything you do something but I looked at the white paper and it a number of times it says we an hour or so that already gives away there’s a collectivities going on and then there’s a Australian and English variation of the spelling of the word I believe favorite one of those words where it has only has an extra you if you’re writing from that from that and he and he also used the term in not in the white paper but in several Communications on the forums and an emails he use the term Max plural which only Australian and British do as opposed to Matt which is what you know there’s another another confirmation if everything is up for grabs this is the most mimetically malleable time it’s like the sun is melting all the means and letting us to completely shave them however we so desire and so that’s yes so cool getting getting now we’re sort of just going with the flow and and Anna and I want to I want to bring up another archetype almost like a guided meditation here but about the to put into context this is really a a everything that you’re doing is a call to action to bring people up to their highest most heroic potential in whatever field and spear there in You Know Jack spearco is very good at that bringing out the absolute most authentic and truest Divine masculine Gardner Warrior developer all the above but really this is the point it’s like what does it take to get to motivate people to really Seize the Day Carpe Diem and so you know the putting the stuff in that context of a of a thriller of the sci-fi thriller that is actually happening and so please please get involved and be a part of making history right now anybody can do is and take to help put in contacts into invigorate things I want to bring up that archetype it that is that of the the running Victor limited view of the scientific or the Sci-Fi future that we saw in that movie running man with Arnold Schwarzenegger and that it’s a corporate fascist media dictatorship in the future and there’s this game shows where people are used as fodder to die with all these professional basically Gladiator type killers that goes sport sport of manner that go in the hunt down based on a Stephen King short story and the thing was called the Bachman books he had like a side pain mean when he wrote The Running Man yeah and it’s really good is totally different and it’s it’s very Eco dystopic they get into a lot of ecological things and are the same similar storyline of it being a sort of corporate fashion future and where they’re basically taking criminals and using them as fodder for for these murderous sportive TV game shows so it’s it’s a real deeper take if anybody is not watch that and to me it was one of the things I was probably once a week almost you know growing up it was so so instrumental in my development of a critique of Empire critique of no media monopolies and and just to prepare and the train for a future of centralization hyper-sexualization the point I want to make about that to frame you know who are the starting point for more more discourse is that be the the passionate sort of real deep punchline of the whole story was where it’s revealed that the tech nerd amongst the three sort of Psych band of escapee prisoner escape he’s a tall frame by the government basically the Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jessica Soto and I don’t know the name of the did actor named a guy twice but basically they together or in this game show they’re running for their lives and ostensibly if they survive all these Gladiator attacks and they will be exonerated and get to live in Paradise in half women in bikinis all over them but that’s a whole lie and basic either going to get killed one way or another so they’re just trying to hack their way out to save their lives and to escape again from the tyranny of the state and but the deeper subjects is at Arnold Schwarzenegger is this sort of he is a c wants to be a survival as he does want to be involved in politics and and he’s he’s the skeptic basically of the Revolutionary cabal that’s trying to liberate Humanity through hacking and this is the cool punchline that bit the thing that is so relevant here is that in their version of the future in a centralized future the hacker would have to hack the Uplink code so they could Jam the network and broadcast the truth and Dweezil Zappa on that revolutionary cabal and they had to sort of Elder guy who wrote hippie folk songs and they Vape they put together all these archetypes like the the modern futuristic insurrectionary people and the sort of Elder psychedelic class of Engineers and stuff and so we’re really there now I’m in the sixties people raging and but they’re in eldership class and then we have new fucking Ninja Warrior hackers who were fighting for The Liberation and so now that jamming up the attacking Upland code jamming the network is broadcasting the truth that’s what I’ve been Armani show is without all of the gun violence and we’re there and we’re doing that and so with that in mind how do you feel about this opportunity is the opportunities that are available to us having that desire to liberate Humanity pretty much open the door to that with with your whole thesis before but I just want to see if you what your thoughts are on that those archetypes and how when we fast forward to the present moment we’re playing out those rolls what is so interesting about it as I look at it you know I I started doing the show will basically I just started doing some rants on YouTube kind of and that was when the the guys that activist post reached out to me and and had said he listening this Mutual following I’ve been following the stories that they have been doing and reposting them and I guess I got on the radar that way and then there were like listening to these Rance like non-stop just on a loop that you’ve been doing it like would you do a do a podcast and we talked about like what could the shell look like in all of this in the interesting part about it was that all of us it was never about this whole thing has never been about like getting views or likes or that it would the wonderful thing about it is that of all the of the people involved it’s only ever been about like let’s just broadcast the signal just broadcast a signal and whatever we do just every week keep broadcasting the signal and who cares the interesting thing about it is that it’s like the equality of people checking out the content is so high the people who reach out to me and I’m like wow you listen if it’s been very very interesting and for me that’s exactly where I want it to be because I I don’t think that the Revolutionary message that’s out there people who are wanting to put out a message you’re you’re doing the exact same thing it’s not going to be anything that at least for up a portion of. Of time that anybody is going to dust it’s going to blow up into the cultural Consciousness because quite honestly like the culture is just not ready and in many ways you start to sacrifice and change I mean I saw that with with being on Gigolos for all those years you know which was a cult classic and really it. It’s just got a cult following to the point where they still just play reruns in the normal slot on every Thursday on Showtime still at people are obsessed with it and it’s the reason why is because they still don’t get it watch an episode the same episode 10 15 20 times and still know that even in the show that there are all of these layers like okay first it’s a buddy comedy and it’s a scintillating and exciting and there’s nudity and then it’s like you go down the road hole in your like wait know there’s another layer there’s another layer there’s another layer to this narrative and and that’s so important what I see so many people doing though is like they people want to be hurt right that’s a natural human instinct and it’s a good human instincts but the question is like do you want to be heard or do you want you to be heard they’re two different two different concepts two different concepts because there are a lot of things that you can do to get attention in the world in which we live and it goes straight to that running man thing straight to this idea of yeah you can take it to the next level of spectacle you can you can put yourself on display and take it to the next level of spectacle and you will get attention but in due in so doing you will also be destroyed because that’s the next story of that’s the next part of that narrative it’s you’re going to be lifted up and then you’re going to necessarily have to be destroyed because it’s not you it’s not you like once you have exhausted that rule that you’re playing it’s time for that role to be recycled just like the Running Man like they’re going to send the goons in metaphorically it’s not a person doing it it’s just the Zeitgeist doing it but it’s like okay we’re bored with you we’re bored we’ve seen everything that this one-dimensional character has an end then you have to take it up to a level where it’s like no you took it to a level 2 far time to destroy you time to throw you into the garbage bin and started but that won’t happen if you are on a quest and you’re on your own personal journey of Enlightenment and you’re truly trying to expand your Consciousness and what you’re doing is kind of a travel diary and that’s how that’s how I view my show I see you when I listen to your show like that’s what you’re doing as well is that it’s it’s your on a journey here’s the travel diary here’s the sort of path that I’ve taken and if people want want to start walking down that path they can but there’s no end to that there’s no reason for you to ever be recycled and so it’s it’s it’s stays and it remains fresh and you know sometimes something Peaks his head above the parapet and you don’t like Jordan Peterson’s a great example right now somebody that you know I support caught onto pretty early on had him on my show at a time when he wasn’t this gigantic selling out stadiums and what not your message necessarily changes when you got to play to the the a lower common denominator and you can’t just stay at the at the the the peak and the edge and never have to necessarily repeat yourself to always be striving to do something new it’s hard to do when you’re when you’re you know when you’re trying to play to to an audience in and get them caught up to speed but you know so that’s that’s really that’s really what I think that’s the signal signal as a signal is who are you who are you like asked a question and then try to articulate it like embody really embody it and try to articulate it in a way that it’s a search in and of itself and I think that the the people who do that are giving so much value to the world and there are so many people doing it you know not as many people as the people who are just out there looking for attention but I think that’s just the overall communication is trying to evolve you know that the the parts of us that are doing that have to move forward as an example to others absolutely. I totally agree and I’m seeing this kind of visually the third eye perspective that the way to be I mean I’m I’ve made a shift in my Consciousness in the last few years to where I said I would love to remain underground underground relative to the mainstream level of exposure for anything is The Sweet Spot to be in you know if you could be financially successful and do your magic and be a wizard and be be like a ninja that disappears and proves in a cloud of smoke and have that leverage and be able to walk amongst the masses and not tempt that seductive power to want to you know it’s it’s if it’s a trap and it’s it’s it’s actually I mean you’ve been you know you’ve been an in those environments where ego is reign supreme and the sort of backbiting and the one-upmanship and all the stuff like I have no really I think that this budic that’s beautiful architect that you’re playing out is to actually create technology that is grows it’s only medic wings and flies and is like very stealthily moving through and you were out there and your public in your ear in your extreme and true presentation of yourself but you’re not trying to be the leader you’re not trying to be the one who is going to be judged for all of your actions and to have to hold that sort of character position which is it like you said you could destroy it and it’s the downfall of a lot of people in crypto press even I mean it’s like you say one thing wrong on Twitter or you know you could lose half your following or you could have a major backlash and everybody’s fired from the hit man I mean what happened to speech writers what happened to teleprompters man if you’re doing your thing live so even that is like a to me I I salute you and Emma bow down to that but yeah this is a and I know you know you’ve been you’ve been having friction online to Summit in some spheres that we don’t need to get into but it is such a delicate dance of IQ psychic you do the keto with all the controls and all that stuff so I applaud you for doing that in for also reforming that that would this is so much about what we’re going to get into the real deep subject here which is how to not be consumed with narcissism and jealousy and greed and power hunger and to be able to really distribute yourself across a network of lovers Distributors cough across the network of Technology developers and I liked it will move forward into some of these topics the sexy reduce your stuff I really appreciate this is this this is the stuff that I was made of these every time I was a kid and over all of the time of my childhood before puberty I wanted to be a Commando Warriors all the predator and fight evil aliens and having Brotherhood and camaraderie and and having cyber and sci-fi all that stuff to do to be able to dork out on that level with you is a real treasure and it really thinks we’re going to get into the grown up space and put on her all that stuff and yeah so there’s a there’s a few a few sort of one-liners that kind of want to share and have you riff off like we’re jamming you know on these ideas and we talkin about what kind of ships have to happen in Consciousness to not be a tool of a paradigm that you did not design and that you did not develop right and to get some steps and leverage out of there so I just today I was outside gardening and Lisa few lines came to me that I think you will resonate with and kind of help us to break free from being in in what we’re going to talk about which is a very closed closed Source proprietary monopolistic centralized marriage dyad of sex and relating that serves the state first and foremost and God if you want to be religious about it but we got God and the state in that collusion of religion and we’ll get there but I just want to say that to to get us going and say these words came to me be a power user or be used by power be a program or be programmed to develop or be developed and ya know that’s what I mean this is a this is in everything in everything because we are a tool and a symbol making we’re to making species right symbols are tools but they live inside of us as well right so we manifest these symbols at as as tools and then we there’s this feedback loop of new symbols being created by the tools that we create and then this is how we move forward so you’re either part of the willingly part of the creative process or you are you might say you’re a cog in the wheel and we’re all a little bit of both but it’s it’s that’s really where awareness comes in so that’s really where the the self self-consciousness and self-awareness self-consciousness in a good way right not like the type of self-consciousness that that that paralyzes you self-awareness to say oh I am manifesting regardless regardless of whether I’m aware or not regardless of whether I’m taking action or not I am participating in this creative process and so many people are you never a spectator but so many people are are content to wait for something to to come toward them and so many people are unhappy with what it is that comes at them and so then all they can do is have a level of angst and certainly really an amazing amazing invigorating conversation and I just I just want to thank you again so much and you know we’ve got a little bit of time left I think we covered most of what I was super excited and looking forward to discussing I guess I would like to ask if you want to talk about the kind of support that you need from people in the area from people abroad people anywhere in the world listening to this but what what do you need to help your chapter really get to the to the point where were you have all your dreams are coming true and you know you have a people power and the skill sets and what were you what are your pain points and what do you need so that that can just be put out there and it is a prayer absolutely absolutely awesome and I’m sex worker Outreach project is a nonprofit we do accept donations we accept recurring donations donations I mean just to be an ally to a sex worker to be supportive and you know aware that their work is real work and emotionally laboring work to know the sex work as a form of emotional and physical labor and that nobody story is is representative of all sex where you know and I think that the presence of sex workers in social movement come together and try to fight this and you have to fight what gone but it is a tubal refuse up sex workers bank accounts and it’s happened the money seems suspicious that’s unacceptable yeah yeah that’s you that’s the way to to bypass So Many Factors whether it’s the pimp violence or the banks or the state or even Amazon not wanting your wishlist to be you know used for compensation whatever it is the terms that you have to been in bed will I have to say that the my biggest public service announcement for anybody that might be in your network who listens to this is that I really hope that anyone listening who is a sex worker who has the u.s. exposed to these Financial choke point issues invest time in studying the whole cryptocurrency movement starting with Bitcoin and in aetherium but but you can accelerate that process if you start to look into joining the platform of spankchain which is bringing together all of the activism all of the the really Advanced cryptocurrency solutions for being your own bank literally being your own bank where you have peer-to-peer Financial transactions you can sell they will be yeah they will be providing a lot of solutions for the industry and for the producers and performers to be empowered independently and off the rails of the money system we don’t need to do our dirty work without your dirty Fiat is how I feel McGregor’s Outreach project we have like a meme donation thing you can donate cooked difference NFL Karma Dakshin and and how how sex workers are the difference between trafficking educate yourself some people have been looking for what seems like an ideal future to me or all of the the glory and the beauty of the healing in the transformation that is possible and also the the sort of in the streets marches and the activism going to take to get there and a couple of I guess you’re silly but up at the memes have come to me and one is it you know people I remember chanting in the streets protesting Wars and logging and you all kinds of pollution would not the people we would always chant whose streets are our streets and I can hear this echoing Cruise sheets are seeds coming out with our seats and then you can also got allies and civilians involved right thing that ever since I started looking into it swapped but I’ve ever felt like we’ll all of the the Financial Funding necessary to do real political work lobbying in legislation and all that stuff I feel like there’s got to be a way to solicit the the buyers of sex work the purchasers of the material that the funeral of the client’s right of the clients are you so mean maybe PornHub can put a donate button to swap you know somewhere I mean set stuff like that I would love to see the financing for all of the stuff that you have in your bucket list of dreams to make come true for this industry and for this movement that that the money if the people who can afford to pay for their further their fetish or for their experience or for their media everybody and you know what I mean I come from the the green business Eco business startup kind of seen in in LA and it was a no-brainer that you would want to launch your startup having a dollar of every purchase or a percentage of your purpose so that you could have the the pr potential of putting out press releases were you talk about how you give back as a social impact or I mean even PornHub has done a lot of cool stuff like that and I don’t mean to keep harping on them but because they’re the biggest conglomerate really that the industry absolutely and you know that they’re behind them right that I was either going to let my contact continue to be over there in cream to the channel myself because it because you know we can continue and have more follow-ups to this conversation but I certainly would love to explore some of your insights in the industry and I have some yes yeah I wanted to add you know how that Whole Foods you know if you have to you have to be a squeaky wheel gets the grease and House of weird that you were is this is thrilling to me I know that there’s a there’s worse things in the world than having pornstars solicit you on your doorstep like door-to-door canvassing for help me on Monday to take your singing telegrams you know what the my name is you could use the conservative rhetoric against him and say we’re here to clean up the adult industry sign here and give us a check what do you mean well I know where else next workers never would never when they used to pack meat and the muckrakers had to blow the whistle and that’s how we have ratio any conservative how do I I subscribed to say the r word regulation but I will say any sort of public outcry about working conditions that’s all we need you know and Industry within the industry of people like you who know what performers need what the issues are and can represent that and it’s not coming top down it’s not coming from you know sideswiping from weird organizations with too much money trying to push agendas where they don’t belong and some people know what I’m talking about there and some people don’t but it’s what they did with the keywords you know trafficking of course people wanted to sign off on that piece of aeon I support you know anti-trafficking laws of course I do and so what we could do is we could eat give them a dose of their own medicine like you said hi we’re going to clean up your industry and fine hair like that cuz that’s how they do so many things when they say you know that people don’t read the fine print when they when they sign initiatives to get on the ballot you know they read the sort of sensationalist headline that skews the facts to some moral kind of you get boxed in Morley by the by the by the headline of whatever it is and so that it’s it’s like appealing to logical fallacies for anyone to want to do that but yeah I mean this is really it’s actually truly the holiest and most most sort of medic there’s there’s a way for all of the people to I mean excellent performers have the legal space to do this right then then the medical aspect will I think it’s going to naturally organically become a safer environment if you’re not having to be underground in the hide from you know the the filming commission and fucking cops and at the neighbors and you could actually have facilities that work up Captain staff and you know and fungus were like just clean to the places I mean that’s what people say about the all of those secondary crime things that go along with Vice and things being underground and the black market economy you know if when you when you legalize drugs all of those secondary cramps go away and so this is a war on sex and we need to end the war on drugs and the war on sex and these problems will sell themselves in the free market so it’s going to happen New Hampshire you know get ready full medical benefits of cannabis right and I’m actually is for you I think what will happen is that is that is that the Cheeto person will get a reverse gangbang by a bunch of Tantra see the goddess and he will want to transform United States into one giant orgiastic goddess Temple to heal the planet from all the patriarchy that’s my that’s my vote I’m going to put that are you trying to turn me on now I try I try not to but sometimes I can’t help it it just happens thank you for that well yeah so we it’s been one of the most delightful hours of my life at sharing this time with you and I’d like to ask you now to give us the links to everything that you want to share and that you’re involved with and close this out with some final words calls-to-action slogans from the front lines whatever you like to share please take your time. Thank you it’s been an honor and I’m I’m I’m pretty sure my cheeks are going to hurt from smiling too so that’s as wot USA. O r g basically you where you can find me I just would like to do everything I can and vegetation Security building in Albuquerque beautiful thank you awesome alright I see well yeah let’s let’s call it a podcast and let’s be in touch and I will I will be in touch again very soon thank you so much and have a wonderful evening. Smiley and you’re coming over here thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Thomas Day

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