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Enlovement and Enlightenments with Peace and Tantra Scholar Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern TPP146


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In this episode I’m joined by my favorite Tantric scholar Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern. I discovered his epic video An Academic Overview of Tantra a couple of years ago and felt it to be the most comprehensive yet accessible single unit of tantric teaching I’d yet found. It’s truly a universally compelling thesis that continues to passionately move me to share his work. It was a deep honor to have him on the show and be able to express my enthusiasm. He share’s his personal spiritual journey towards tantric sexual enlovement and enlightments and offers hope that we can create lasting peace on earth with a renaissance of devotion to the nature , the divine feminine, and each other.

About Thomas:

Dr. Thomas Clough Daffern B.A. (Hons.) PGCE. D.SC. (Hon), PhD. is a philosopher, historian, teacher, poet, author, lecturer, musician, thinker, educator, consultant and peace studies specialist. His academic background includes degrees in European and world history (with political philosophy) and religious education, plus a long period of intense personal study in philosophy, religion and the history of ideas – together with over 30 years teaching experience in the same fields. He has also trained and practised in conflict management within communities and schools, specialising in multifaith and multicultural mediation. He is also a trained and experienced teacher in secondary schools, specialising in philosophy, religious education, history and citizenship studies. He was awarded his PhD from the University of London for a thesis which explores the history of the search for peace from 1945-2001 and which proposes a new field of historiography, Transpersonal History, as the best way to establish a rigorous discourse on peace among rival and contending spiritual and intellectual traditions, currently battling for hegemony on the planet. He is an expert in research techniques and methodologies on all aspects of history, religious studies, the history of world philosophy and transpersonal psychology. He has lectured in peace studies, philosophy and religious studies for many years at the Universities of London and Oxford, and has spoken twice at the UN Headquarters about the role of Universities in changing the climate of fear and violence on the planet to one of trust and wisdom-seeking. He is a founder and coordinator of International Philosophers and Historians for Peace and has worked with philosophers and intellectuals from many countries worldwide to help establish intellectual and spiritual networks for peace and goodwill. In 1990 he was elected in Moscow as Coordinator of International Philosophers for Peace, a specialist body of philosophers worldwide searching for peace and international understanding.

He is Director of the International Institute of Peace Studies and Global Philosophy (IIPSGP) which works across many academic fields to bring together all those with an interest in and a commitment towards the study of peace and philosophy on all levels of the personal and global and to applying the qualities of love and wisdom to the resolution of the problems and tensions of today’s world. IIPSGP arose out of a feasibility study which Thomas undertook for the University of London into the proposed establishment of an Institute of Peace Studies (from 1989-1992). IIPSGP now operates as an autonomous Institute with members scattered worldwide. Thomas is also Founder of The Global Green University, which has arisen from the work of IIPSGP and was launched in 2000 as a pilot project in complementary higher education, to bring into being a new global higher education initiative which can provide space for the deeper kind of learning which we believe is needed at this time of critical transition in the history of planet earth.

Thomas has developed long term educational programmes to widen understanding of the causes of conflict and approaches to peace and to assist social and cultural development. He has also created, (in association with the Gandhi Foundation and the World Conference on Religion and Peace), the Multifaith and Multicultural Mediation Service. The M.M.M.S. is the first mediation service to specialise in disputes in which issues of faith and/or culture are present. He has also served as an educational adviser to numerous organisations including the UN and UNESCO. He has travelled widely in India and has visited 8 times, travelling throughout the country and meeting academics and spiritual seekers. He has extensive knowledge of Indian religious and philosophical teachings and has proposed the formation of an Indian Union Mediation Service to prevent conflicts in the entire sub-continent. He is a lay member of the Anglican Church, as well as a practicing Druid elder, Qabalist, Sufi, Yogi, Tantric and universal mystic with an extensive knowledge of all world religious and philosophical traditions. He served as educational director of the Gandhi Foundation with the late Surur Hoda, and as Secretary General of the World Conference on Religions and Peace (UK and Ireland) from 1990-1997 attending and contributing to many of its international conferences in Rome, Vienna, Sweden and Paris. As an ecumenical esotericist and universal mystic, he has also spoken at Theosophical, Anthroposophical and other esoteric organisations and networks worldwide, and helped convene the Network of Wisdom Schools at the Theosophical Society headquarters in London in 2000 for Sancta Sophia Seminary. He has spoken in Edinburgh to the Edinburgh International Festival For Middle Eastern Spirituality and Peace on several occasions, running a workshop there on the Esoteric Dimensions of Peacemaking in the Middle East, focused on his book The Qabalah Runes. He has lectured in the USA on various occasions, including at Sancta Sophia Seminary, as well as at Findhorn in Scotland and the Edinburgh and Israeli Theosophical Society.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello their beloveds welcome to Township on podcast episode number 146 I am here with dr. Thomas cloth daffron who is the director of The International Institute of Peace studies and Global philosophy and he said a foremost tantric scholar and initiated practitioner and a vast array of spiritual traditions and paths and above all a seeker of Truth and I will just say that when I was really getting deep into my academic studies of tantric world history really had discovered a academic overview of timeshare YouTube video which is very thorough and very deep and far-reaching and really clarified a lot of myths and misunderstandings I think people in the West End in the Neo Tantra movement have about where this all comes from and what really what it’s what it’s had to do as a spiritual movement to survive many waves of assault throughout the age and so I’m sober I feel so blessed now cuz I am really am excited I member in and one of the Indiana Jones movies he was referred to as is Gideon is a Schoolboy to to get closer to the truth of some of these is wisdom traditions and that’s just exactly how I feel right now I feel like this is going to be a great journey into understanding and there’s a lot to unpack here so I guess I looked into what you’ve accomplished Thomas it’s so profound beyond the Hindu Tantra canned and Buddhist Tantra studies you’ve done you’ve really got a lot of Knowledge from around the world so it’d be great to have you take as much time as you’d like to share with this really your whole personal life story and where this all began in and what you’ve been you know what you’ve been up to at this point and then we’ll get into the tantric overview okay well thank you been thank you so much for having me all and I love your website Tantra Punk it’s a good idea bringing chicken Haifa leeching you know intellectual Elites of the wild with the street kids and the cross streets I’ve kind of done the same like I was born in Montreal. Sham Canadian by national I see my honest memory is actually before I remember coming up into taking off this phone and it was a recurring dream that I took back over the Atlantic when we move from Canada but I was full which one of those I woke you nod Linus and I remember that distinctly youngboy paw print off I always thought this is very special life and this planet is very special Planet I love this planet I was born into it an amazing family we lived in Westmount my parents a peace activist radicals My Father Brown the Canadian national Railways Personnel division so I have other members of Crossing Canada by train on to form memories my first memory is of Montreal Winters and just how beautiful and white it was I’m in the spring I need incredible color of the flowers and you know what I love about Canada and the states is you got real Seasons wins his real winds and then spring and summer real. Something about 10 for it’s about turning on the 3D cutting on the the full depth of the real color of life and celebrating that and Bryson and it’s very laid-back town I went to out of extremely good education my parents were scholars in the rain right my mother. University of Sussex and I decided pretty early on I used to be sent to Paris tonight in French evarista and I decided pretty early on I want to become a pilot it seemed to me I need the parts were telling the truth in society I’m I I was trying to take seriously the physics teaching at school and chemistry in the decider of knowledge is parceled out in two separate little divisions which is conventional grammar school education I thought the whole thing was a hoax because obviously we’re one big where it was a continual experience of subjectivity so I didn’t have the vocabulary then spoke about you no conscience as I didn’t know people that studied real real intense levels like yogacara put something but I knew there was something wrong with what were you being taught which is just externalities and the maid that the dominant philosophical friend was materialism right I just felt this is ridiculous it’s not true so I became a poet as a rebellion tonight to rebellion and I write love poetry I still am a poet That’s my kind of basic one of my basic modalities of communication it’s all about how you communicate truth poetry is a powerful thing I just listened to the entire mahabharatha as a token book it took a few weeks it’s 47 hours you know that’s how she is put down that stuff and he’s great epics and I will stay running International network of pets waiting for peace so I’m now just just put that out there and that is one of the ways we can communicate the stuff I’m anyway then I discovered okay so this poetry but then I discovered this thing called philosophy and I discovered that was a tradition of people who would not satisfied with just receiving knowledge regurgitation and exams I’m using it professionally the self-advancement which is the kind of game that goes on in the power behind the way that Society structured knowledge know there are other kinds of people that question everything the question mileage don’t want to go back to basics and then I’m looking for absolutes in a what what where does everything come from that was a question of the Greek pre-socratics like saying he’s going to classifieds I fell in love this is I realize that smile that that’s another layer of my identity and I decided to devote my life to the masses what is perjury so I went off to University naively thinking that in University academic Department Surplus fee you be able to have those kind of discourses in questions about the nature of ultimate 3D pen to put a song by that time I’m taking the Shell station in the tantric by Tryon has school been influenced by students of truck jam Trump and had a couple of experiences with honesty that was very powerful and transformative this is the early seventies which was the time when you know we took these things quite seriously and it wasn’t just a posi Trac you know you were doing it to find Ultimate Reality and I had it I had a female consult an amazing woman who was like 10 years older than me that initiates these tanks the problem was that there’s been no lack of Team Rocket from the Department was run by logical positivists who who becomes time is the most daring thing they did and I was supposed to kind of everything was put through a lens of logical positivism which says the oil metaphysical discourse is meaningless unless you’re familiar with the school of thought that it was very powerful in the 1760s was professor of philosophy talks to every time in a seminar at University I open my mouth I have very rude students literally shutting me out and saying you a token metaphysics shut up it’s meaningless you know I was shocked to be honest because how can you be philosophers and I’m damned Outlaw metaphysics that’s what I that’s what I told me to the study of the thing and reading Place having some of the great minds song and I was a cool steeply reading Indian mysticism by this time I’m studying Buddhist philosophy at a deep level I discovered yogacara philosophy which is the mind and Consciousness Amy school but listen I’m outside read the apana shots I’ve been practicing yoga meditation for some time and I was having experiences goodnight and say to then have to go to the University of Utah old that they will meeting us well it was a joke so what I did is one may morning on May 20th I think I was 20 20th birthday was I resign from the degree course put a knapsack on my back and walked across Salisbury Plain to Stonehenge monument in the middle of salt time I’m going to leave the study of flustered I’m going to go and live in practice it now it was an epochal moment in my life right and I had this amazing walk across Stonehenge which is a great ancient Celtic Druid monument and I slept out in out of the Stars chunin to Nature and I can only describe as a kind of Enlightenment experience looking back it was it was a very intense like freeing from old at stupidity and the nonsense of. Academia and just plugging into the cosmic mind of nature the rivers the I remember hummingbirds in Kingfisher is dancing on the river and I realized I got a kind of download which Tibetan 10 preschool Emma’s you’re probably familiar with this concept when when you when you’re in a bounced I just don’t like Thomas and Ava was intimate but you can share all your teachings all at once for that one generation that’s alive then so what you do is you you leave some of it for later generations to find like a kind of Clues and that part that pockets of advanced Consciousness which you can you can kind of hide in a cave or you can put on the Mountaintop or whatever they call Thomas you know that it’s like laying things down I mean if you think of Christ he was always teaching stuff the disciples didn’t catch it the gospels are full of and his disciples didn’t understand what he was talking about type comments on this the same for every single spiritual teacher many substances that have been because I need the people that are up to their level will understand well enough to talk about my time so a teacher like having somebody puts down these tournaments which are then left for future generations to find out all I can say is that when I have that walk across Ultra playing it was like I I walked into a tum I left by the ancient Druids of Britain an island the ten masters of the ancient Celtic peoples I realized here I’d be looking for like months of Eastern philosophy in what is some song and something I realized this download it’s like hey we’ve been here all alone right and Saint Andrews belts in different layers 2000 3000 BC very long time but they found post holes in the car park near it going back ten thousand years has a secret Monument Temple for these very very faint coach who I’m going to even before Neolithic they were hunter-gatherers the first people that people the British Isles and I realize they they as I studied that I started druidry academically about time I found an amazing book holder that the Celtic gods vines that teaching was exactly the same ultimately as the great time for yogic masters of India and Asia and what time so this is confirmed by the fact that we’d what we know you from the truth is that they were they were Swanson on violence they were the mediation of the tribes of the Celts they love the lord gave us and the enemy this was very excited when I spent some time studying the last people I then went back to Canada because I decided that I wanted to get the university education that I should have called but I haven’t called because the teachers have been saying that and I realize the only way I could do it was self-study you know I’m used the facilities of a good academic library and then I put myself through a program of self-directed this is before the internet right everything’s from books and I went to live in Calgary and Edmonton in Alberta sad because I’m a Canadian citizen as well and I spent four years three and a half years weeding through every single spiritual classic that the great face of mankind of ever produced so I used a soup of academic Library Calgary and it has will the great texts maxmilhas that if you know but that the sacred books of the East he was professor at Oxford of comparative mythology they used to call that in his day he was a friend of Queen Victoria and the great philologist and he he reviewed a an amazing translation program they went into English translation every single sacred texts from all the states that the Imam I’m still I’m beatable King James or Astron Buddhist Hindu in the old bull the most important scriptures with footnotes and coming tonight anyway I spend that for your study time which was it was more than a degrees when I when I look back at what I did and I can’t nights thanks it was a very intense study of comparative Global philosophy inspired travel safe started in like prehistory the shamanic Traditions working through the most ancient layers of each tribal culture on the planet I don’t see by the time I got to the 19th century and was reading hegelund in advance philosophers I sort of looked out for my books to see the world going up in Flames it was the time when American hostages have been captured in Tyrann and there was a kind of War about to break up Middle East and I realized that I had a Gigi to speak out essentially because the kind of people running the planets I’m not afraid that Warriors that cover in intelligence agents types and that businessman but they lack fundamental ethics and they like a kind of deep spirituality so I decided to pause the scholarship and to get a bit more attractive and I went back to London launch the group called philosophers and historians a piece with a friend of mine who had met who was a British scholar of spirituality and he launched the street we used to have meetings in London this is now the early eighties and you know I’m at some extraordinary people and then at my practice was also in a continuing so I’m practicing daily meditation I’m practicing yoga stuff that I have been all this time the whole time in Canada I wasn’t just starting academic I was also deeply into meditation to work and I’d spend time in a friend since in Calgary I went to the Quaker Meeting House because in those days they were some of the more enlightened kind of people around I might be with I’m what I call a mess up my on a practitioner so I’m looking for Collective Enlightenment for the whole world I’m one of the books I’ve written is called the enlightenment plural I’m the first guy that says we need to talk about in like 2 looks on nursing license because Enlightenment is is kind of a mano approach I’ve been influenced by James Hillman has a jungian scholar he talks about the many sidedness of reality so you’re in line with my beautiful tonight it might be different to you know your pain or your console or and it might be different if you were Enlightenment 10 years from now all that kind of way. How does the nightman come and why does it does it come in packets you know was China in the Tang Dynasty did it have more enlightened people alive and then bought it at that time then say America in the 19th century United Soccer how do we know how do we assess this those are some of the questions I’ve been asking about nature in like 2 months and I’m still asking but the goal for me 10 just a vehicle one-off many right but it’s one of the Primal ones which which can boost mankind to a new Consciousness which can shift us to a world of love equality and ambition and poetry from the with that with that high-tech and logical discipline Center cyber stuff you know I’m saying I’m I’m on the side of humanity saying we we demand the right to a life and you guys have a duty to get out of the way okay so that that was the beginning so then I thought but I want to I want to go back into Academia and pretend to be normal and I pretend I’m not seeing light United game afterlight-hyde right and I did a history degree at the University of London I did that because because if Enlightenment Kant be applied to actual reality to peoples lived experience we live through history right and we all have our micro history our lives but let me have a bike Collective family history off all right get a tribal or National History and let me have a sort of thing called world history so I became fascinated by the philosophy of history and I studied the mole I went to the University of London I did different papers on different aspects of History so bulking history in a european-wide diplomatic history and song and then I did the history of the world war cold war in the South and my interest was peace history which is really told it doesn’t exist yet there’s a few Scholars around the planet looking at it and I’m a lot of the history kids are taught in schools is military history War I think this happened on this is one I got right interested in in ancient prehistory soulwax like you may know Maria confucius’s welcome on the go to the cultures of ancient Europe the Old Goat extraditions she was an archaeologist and and his story from the few aenea she was a friend of Joseph Campbell and other people and she discovered there was an ancient civilization in the pool code prior to the Mycenaean Greeks go to space culture which was Pacific they didn’t have weapons I didn’t use they didn’t need to have big wolves around the sacraments and they made these little golden statuettes and it’ll deities and they love each other they painted that Parts with butterflies and they love the arrows they they celebrate your nature and I thought you were so it should I discovered the archaeologist in Central Asia which was then on the Russia and Kazakhstan places I found the same figurines exactly the same thing and then what am I holding gold in India so I’ll kill her sister discovered exactly the same figurines say they were they went to the Belt all the way from the Balkans to Northern India the same designs is the celebration free erotic celebrations has female male form and nature making pots and pans with swells and and them shapes that that point to Infiniti if you want now the Druid cultures where the where the Northwest and extension of this one fundamental Global culture which we can cool the goddess culture it’s it’s it’s the origin of mankind is culture and them in the in the Heights on the sacred sites of the Dreamworld in the northwest of Europe you find the same types of the spiral shape sees these World these guys were seeing energy what they doing in that box and this is why I was just looking at these these patterns of symmetry that that explain the different levels of being we not just you know it’s not just you and me and a guy choking in California right where possible Globes dancing around the sun on its axis of cosmic energy you can put in a kind of United talks or something that’s what these guys did to me the more I looked at all this and I’m by now I was teaching peace studies at the University of London and I’m I will say poop in messy boxwood for time I was doing my research for a PhD in at the same time I realized the in this ancient culture this this Global go to space culture where the seeds of peace that we need to recover for all civilizations to survive we think we’ve got these different nations that we should be trying bones of each other but the ancestors of the Syrian people dance of the American people in complexity ancestors of the people the French we actually go back to one Angel come and culture which I will call 10 trick for one of the one of the best times to designation What ions what I realized as I was doing this research and I by then I was traveling around the world meeting Scholars academics around the planet disgusting piece right I came to the states in 92 find view Joel the beading skulls of Peace Massage and said his piece how can we get that I told you these Bolding who was Professor sociology time and she wrote a book called the underside of history about women’s history and how it’s kind of written out of History are Ross’s is the stories never told today so we have to put it back which led me to a long story and let me to to eventually I finished a thesis which proposed looking at the time. For 9:45 2001 that we need to rethink of the way that we look at history this was my loan engagement with historical studies right and I argued that history one-dimensional e was looking at it as in The Narrative of succession of power struggles and disadvantages of us is that this president against that we’re fixing on maybe go Bibles where is what we should be talking about is the Continuum of spiritual consciousness that is walking through these individuals and and and moving them towards deeper understanding and Enlightenment or not the real history of humanity is is the set for night I like cold that I coined the phrase that I cool. Trump’s personal history right so it’s a new field of History so we’ve got economic history military history Jen the history so I’ve got this new field transpersonal history which is history with Consciousness put back into it right so let me just give me a time. So I’ve been doing a lot of research on many things. One thing I’ve been researching recently in the last few months is the assassination of President Kennedy now he was deeply committed by and peace and he had a girlfriend of the time who was also a researcher of spirituality and he was a friend of Timothy Leary and she was exploring at a stable Timothy Leary’s guidance this was very early 6062 and we can work out and this seems to be actually genuine is she called Kennedy to explore with her the effects of LSD and they had a totally amazing couple of experiences right he’s the president of the United States exploring with his mistress in his eyes tightly expanded his his vision and he realize he had to try and bring World Peace and he was going to make a deal a peace deal with Chris Jeff who was who was they banished stop the Cuban Missile Crisis now this was discovered by his mind as by the intelligent people and it was one more reason why he was shot because they wouldn’t they wouldn’t tolerate the military-industrial complex of the USA president rice he was going to like legalized this kind of thing so they deliberately kill them so when you know what I’m saying is is documentable on factual subject to further research and so I can give you the references but the point is when not true story of Kennedy’s death and what he tried to do from Eric ristow it will be told from the point-of-view of his experience of transpersonal Consciousness with his girlfriend and how they were trying to liberate America from the from be because I know Kung Fu should bear the burden of being the war machine in the planet anyway not just a little glimpse of how trans medical history Works in practice since then I’ve been I set up an Institute of Peace studies at the University of London which is unique in that we look up Global spirituality peace studies courses you can go on if you are lucky enough to have one in your University will focus on like weapons control to solomont you know how to prevent war and pieces cut in the absence of War might be different it’s it’s the presence of Enlightenment pieces the positive presence of Enlightenment but it’s it’s another way live coins in Loveland because Enlightenment is is a lights image in Loveland is the state of being in love and that’s why we need to be as planet we need to get it we need to get back in love with each other and with the planet of nature with the color GM with with Spirits with with the Olsen dating some Guardians so I’m yeah that’s what it means to stand for it sits there for Research into Enlightenment comparison me across all the parts or Traditions song is kind of right now for that so I’ll talk just about a couple more things and then I’ll let you ask any questions right cuz it’s 11 a.m. thank you for my past relationships because like you I realize that’s the microcosm of where people are on earth in terms of relationships can be very negative people can experience of being in a Crimes of Passion verbal abuse mental abuse physical abuse song Anthem that’s a really terrible experience with people and and thousands and thousands of people are stuck in terrible relationships about working at this new kind of sexual life the snowy Ross happening this this hate and anger again it would happen if I call you this phrase some time on this journey about 10-15 years ago called wisdom has now mankind that’s what we called love affairs and we think in every time I would do love affairs but most of them end in tears right like Porto Kennedy having a love affair with his mistress and her by the way she got assassinated Merry Manor she was cold should be in the way she being the wife of cord matter who was the senior Cia guy she was killed off portal Merry Manor I’m just a little while off the Kennedy they shut them both say most love affairs end in tears right what I propose which is a Socratic move is that we should rename let’s go to the higher end of 11th and call that wisdom and I wrote a book about this which is cold quads tools of cartography of Enlightenment in Loveland and joyous for wisdom Baba’s so it’s kind of a manual a kind of how to manual to reach Enlightenment in a relationship I will stand beside you sign like a Jewish marriage they sign a contract which is a very good idea you put down in writing it I will see you every Friday we will make passionate love I will see you you know what every full moon will will and it will make wonderful it rustic live in the woods and will always do it with my building a fire fast so you put down in writing where you want what I promise I will give you a massage every Wednesday afternoon and night and you will get me one every kind of revised as you got a loan I think or two it is you don’t lie to each other so you can get an honesty truthfulness if you want to reach tonight you have to follow the honesty, and that means being honest about your feelings and I think that it’s clear and Keith absolute key thing is you make a pledge not to do violence against each other out. So I hit me if you know any old style time do the monster comes along to pass up a couple of initiates and gives them initiation they have a Time tribulation so that’s fine this is a kind of week on weight we can’t wait for that because there aren’t enough in a tree monsters around and people hungry for enlightenment now this that’s the same many people out there so this is a kind of way of getting out to the masses of it but the cool thing is when you take that pledge is too cold out this is to place at non-violence and unfermented that is particularly challenging because men like to be in charge we was Stronger we like to kind of use of force and if young men are being sent off to fight Wars they come back with huge egos in a they want to be something that’s all going to stop we have to end that kind of crime misuse of energy which is what it’s about for the for the good food near us women also have to stop the violence and women often do variable Pilots I’ve noticed men a bit simpler creatures and I know this is a teacher of tall boys and girls in school so many as as well as adults and boys will be quiet and I think I’m hungry though fast things that go I really the ballmasters at abuse I don’t think I’m relationships you got women Softly on The Binding that console with in a verbal abuse that will stop but also so that’s one level of what happened the other level is through International transpersonal apply tonight in Port Perry to Interfaith peacemaking so we we’ve got a real problem on this part of the state of Israel and the state of Palestine which isn’t quite official locked in this ridiculous war is affiliated with the Jewish tradition says like the Jewish faith is saying we want to be aligned in our way the Palestinians are saying we want to be like then I’ll wait then you go Syria Lebanon Iran and all the other countries and then you got the Big Time Rush American will rest the geopolitics midnight but what I’m saying is instead of trying poems of each other instead of me being a terrorist and creeping up on you and stabbing your kibbutz or you coming and firing bullets at me over the fence in it whatever put all the guns down put all the swords weapons found in the Bible ones let’s compare maps of Enlightenment so I being pushed around Palestine a few times I’ve got many friends all signs of discomfort I studied Sufism with great Sufi teachers he’s giving me that maps of Enlightenment see if he’s incredible people and it includes the time for Kellerman feed the Muslim culture loves its Eros it it can I practice is at 12 but I will say being in this traffic looking to rabbis and capitalists and looking at being given the shed that got soccer field in my cement and the Kabbalah is old said that writing for Centra if you study the Kabbalah and that you know it’s a it’s an amazing system and in fact the map of the sephiroth witch familiar with the cabal that’s the Tree of Life diagram does 10 sefirot Madonna’s into this big time it’s exactly the same as the tantric chakras 100% goes back to the same common prayer start Roots so the shamanic ancestors of the people’s go back if you if you walk back in time twenty thousand years you’re talking about the same people that’s in a with their know the vignette developing time trial so in order to prove that I then wrote a book called a couple of reasons which is a linguistic stopping cuz I My love language and the origin of words I’ve already written a dictionary philosophical timing on my channel different languages cuz nobody thought of it for God’s sake when I went to Bristol university studies lost your eyes tell about language is the shape of a world but nobody. Will a cat that’s the case let’s let’s compare and contrast with other cameras for Life by what’s the word for enlightenment and asked if I’d do they have one what’s the word then I’m in the dialects that they speak in Mali the best words was like true love statue called called A semi in all different languages of the planet and then compare and contrast there a symbologist where they come from because Ken for as you probably know says that sound is is the way that the gods create this universe I can’t shopped the sound of all the goddess vac is how Brahma get in the beginning Manifest this entire universe and interests so incredibly the Bible that the Catalyst tradition says exactly the same I need the beginning God speaks light comes into bed and you got creation say what interested me an interesting is if we studied the origin of these first thought forms in clothes with sound in on one case the Hebrew tradition which is the Kabbalah screws and on the other let’s take into European languages let’s take the bring switch are the Scandinavian tradition of sacred alphabet connect to the god of the Rings is how you would that be a correlation traditionally in a bicycle doesn’t say no because of course you want to specialize in smyczek Starfall you specialize in Scandinavian they never talk to each other because I’m a kind of honneamise character am I wonder about house to different conferences what peace studies does I’ve sat in on the meetings of these people and yes I’ve realized you know and that’s what goes into my book on the Kabbalah rings I explain how the Kabbalah the sacred sound system which maps on the tree of life is the same as the real and switch my phone for the tree of yggdrasil which Odin is Chief God who travels about April cell which is where our planet lives we live on midgard in the middle of yggdrasil which is the Tree of Life what I argue in the book is this guy’s back to Common Roots so let’s celebrate I’m the irony the tragedy that horrible tragedy is that in the second world war with how much is among the Germans prosecution the Jews in song Some of the Germans will bring into the rooms right they thought they were very clever friend cousins the people that play The Killing that the great Jewish Scholars of Polo underwear together Anacapa tea made conferences they would have realized we are actually one people in the Bible is just the tip of the iceberg and if you could make a 3D image of all secret ex mankind you see that we’ll go back like roots of One Tree and that for the only solution to a problem this is global enlightenment Sunday weather we go that’s not some that’s enough of you. What I’ve been up to I could say more but you know I’ve been having to take any questions Novation I’m totally thrilled that you shared all that and I feel total residents with everything you said I’m going to just kind of give some affection for a minute I’ll say that my as I began to have tantric experiences glimpses of Enlightenment through protracted orgasmic States and really realizing that there’s other Pathways including including and transcending raw psychedelic experiences but the unity Consciousness experience it can be experienced or can be had for love making with the proper duration that requires this this asymmetrical training of male sexual physiology to be appropriately matched with the potential of the default female sexual physiology and that’s where you know it sounds like a clinical medical book but that’s that’s kind of my when I don’t have to be sassy to defeat the male ego he first must be humbled to the powers of Shakti and energy flow and orgasmic energy from the female and then if we if we train boys to philosophically understand that reference and peace and one is in Unity comes from Yoni worship and that true that practice you then have the sense of Brotherhood with all other fellow man and you have the sense of reverence for the what I would say is you know if I’m certain shaktism kind of Traditions that you would probably know more about there is a sort of a an aspiration to transcend the sort of them just the remedial or the just that I’m refined aspects of the male ego in the male psyche that that that are now running the war codes to the warrior course in the end of the warlord’s they’re basically they have a sip the nectar of the goddess and if they were to be Intoxicated by the next to the goddess they would just want to you know for drinks for other people and they’d all want to gather the ideology of or the politics of Yoni worship is 1 pieces that I have it is that you will have Global Peace World Peace when men collectively agree that they have more power and more grandiosity and more achievement to basically compare how deep they’ve gone to the goddess with their spiritual practice and it’s a pretty infinite you know Endeavor so that’s more time or Azonto less time vertical put down the expert down the sword and you know grab your cock really in start training it to be ready for the fires of the Oni and you will be too occupied in that state of bliss to even think about you no fighting over the name of the male God or trying to control territory so I see that that’s that I arrive at those conclusions just through having these experiences myself and and then when I discover your your video on YouTube the academic overview of Tantra and this sort of deeply moved by the also the conclusion of the ecological ethics that grow from being in love with yourself with your beloved and with the beauty and sacredness of peaceful nature and it’s it’s really a complete package and I just don’t know how it’s been a while dude I guess thanks to you I honestly I know that there’s been violence oppression and and Temple burnings and Raves and you know that the his father talked about so thank you again bro I puzzled over why why hasn’t everybody called it yet yeah why it why is why why why are people still telling lies and misusing intelligence to kill President so whatever bomb countries Sofia phobia which is the fear of wisdom I hypothesize in the book that it’s it’s a medical condition affecting some people they’re afraid was delicious as the opposite of philosophy and it’s to do with the you know it’s even in the Bible where afraid of the Serpent’s coming to even giving her too much knowledge because it’s dangerous say there’s a kind of esoteric version of Sofia phobia which was suffering from and so in our unconscious the collective unconscious Mankind we tend to kill prophets and on people that bring us wisdom you know I mean if you I mean I’m glad you’ll still be awake because you know what your back because if you give out too much they bump you off this is historically Factory what happens so as Christ that you have to be as wise as the serpent but innocent is a Dopp so you know this is why some of the greatest Sufi since on a they don’t go around with a big sign saying and I will see if you they just like her little shoe salesman or whatever I say we have to think of a 9 today to Sofia phobia I know all the suppression of time for the making everything a legal that can increase Consciousness so you know the FBI raiding you if your grind if you plant so YouTube to bring some Shiva Consciousness to a life ticket late but just you know preparing to smoke grass then get drunk on whiskey or whatever and that’s that’s the that’s the Sofia favorite coach of the living in how to watch the antidote tonight I miss is the question that I’ve I’ve been asking one of our educational institutions awesome I’m not helping like you ought to be able to go and do it do studies in your cycle town you know California should have a sitter and wisdom schools how many does but often they’re very expensive that for a kind of elite this should be Street knowledge and it in a I’m with Robin Hood’s Academy tool School in Sherwood Forest in Norfolk and I thought why don’t we have a global Green University like I can the green ones where Ordinary People want to make that Journey can men get access to all the stuff you don’t have to go to walk to go to one of them pay thousands and thousands of pounds to get a piece of paper so I set up a global Green University which is a still existing it’s it’s for love it’s for students at 1 to study for foundly whatever they can do 10 troll Druid Real History of the Vietnam War anyting but from a deeper and more engaged and more politically intelligent perspective than conventional Academia as I said it because I would say just in Sean’s with with the way I could see me has been taken over by the military-industrial complex excetera excetera and peace studies is the central thing about Jane that’s my medicine 22 Countess fear phobia and the loving relationship when I call the wisdom of fat between two in a people committed to that journey of in life is the most profound vehicle you can have that and the sexual experience in its pure form of you know that’s a in license practice to the vehicle of the body’s erupt experience wow can be an extraordinary will be what I hope will be an ongoing series of conversations to get deeper into a lot of these specific areas and again going back to the the academic overview of Tantra there’s so many gems in that thesis or something kind of beer a Prelude to a fault the first follow-up conversation if I could just kind of pull some highlights from why this is going to be for anyone listening to this episode I mean the reason this is happening is because of how profoundly moved I was by that specific unit of teaching and wisdom transference the witches that academic overview of Tantra video and in that if I could just kind of highlight a few things I would say that the this is so I’m evil first of all anybody who’s ever watched Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom has a culturally built in reference point for the Distortion of the colonization of Hindu Tantra in India and the bastardization of goddess worship and the sort of demon is Big literally the demonization of a goddess who slays demons, exactly so the what needs to happen is it is a corrected version of I’ve also fantasized about there being a moment where Harrison Ford imself will go bow down before a true goddess Kali figurine or statue at A real Temple and actually make some donations to to rebuild the Glorious epic traditions of Kali worship as the protector of children and is the Slayer of demons not the enslaver of children and the the Demonic that was such a complete Distortion and buggy called did exist and is you know you probably know more about than I do but there is that they sort of I mean it would be like saying every Christian is a child molester to say that the thuggee cult and their method of Kali worship if there was even sacrifice and what not. That was just characteristic of everyone doing it so anyway there’s a lot to sort out there and when I when I came across your work and in just in that video which is obviously the tip of the iceberg that really piqued my interest because this is the kind of research that’s going to be required to sort out the schools of Tantra that were practicing forms of black magic that the forms of of manipulation and power and abuse in that those those hyperbolized Trends or threads within the history of time. So surprising that out from the peace-loving the goddess worshiping and the sort of next time just to summarize my mind to this is that any school that says there’s a shortage of Enlightenment and that you can only get it if you do this will give me that money you can stand in the KA for 20 years and you know whatever I can disarray in the world’s religious and spiritual teaching trash is that they are based on the idea of a scarcity of Enlightenment was suffering from God shortage shortage and so you can’t get your goat ass because ex-wife had if we had this conversation in some parts of the world like Saudi Arabia I be arrested as a witch from you be arrested them in a special branch of the police that comes in the rest of you and I’m not joking because you even just have to meditate in front of a candle in Saudi Arabia and do some yoga and you are arrested literally is which I think this is shocking that ain’t allowed philosophy teaching in schools that’s just one example but that’s one of the base of a magical places on the time that I Sofia fell back and then prednisone is called shortage I’m so I’m you and I trying to do the same thing from different ends of the planet you’re trying to awaken people to that to that right to Devotion to to the Palace. Vero’s to the game with the fellas you know the lingo the the beauty of that incredible system of magic that we come from it needs to be studied and this is true reference right. Just finished with one thing to do you know I think they just found them a drawing in the in the desert somewhere in it I think in Israel will just just just south of Israel in in the Sinai of Yahweh and his wife and you always have you seen this also it’s a very ancient illustration scratched onto a stone from the time when the Hebrew tribes arriving about the Tesla something in that place audiologist to study this site and it was occupied by ancient Jewish ancestors and some of the writing the text and so I may indicate is picture of Yahweh the gulf and his consort asherah the Gomez and they’re very erotic graysexual you always got a great in a phallus that I’m so excited this is the time to go over some of them up to that is yes and say why is that suppress like if I go into Orthodox popsicle throat spots of Jerusalem and I’m shoving something by the woman I’m trying too much flashing I’ll be stoned and the same in parts of Europe will say what I think we can make it another time we have to turn on its head beside your heresy of Orthodoxy the people that claim to be with the dogs are actually the Heretics and the Tantrums voice the Heretics of the Heretics blachly with the most Orthodox of the Orthodox in the sense of the Greek word to go straight to truth cuz that’s what Orthodox means going straight to truth and I and I we will want to go straight to truth and then we can have fun beautiful. Thank you again so much exactly what I intended was just a teaser or salad bar where what led you what led up to the offerings that you do have and that I found in that video and now I’ve got so many more rabbit holes to Explorer from what you’ve accomplished and yeah I feel like I will spend some time to really dressed out some some pointed questions from that to kind of be a supplement to that video cuz is it in my evolving sort of web-based contract school where I’m just sort of sharing what comes in a sort of rebroadcasting what comes my way through my path that is really the most foundational piece right there 222 Orient people to there is a physical time. There’s a historical timeline and there’s a physical Dimension to the evolution of of Tantra and it really it it’s got to go back as far as the shamanic roots of pagan goddess figurines and you know I found citations were the dark goddess figurines were worship 20,000 years before civilization in India and so you know the and then this is sort of the the interplay between the Sanskrit the importation of the Sanskrit Language by Aryans and then the indigenous original pre-vedic this is all such juicy material that I feel like if you just show up somewhere and they say this is how it’s done they don’t unpack that maybe I think a lot of people just don’t know the deeper Roots so if you were going to be her definitely fit the giving us the sort of framework to begin deeper inquiry and so again I just can’t thank you enough and we’ll definitely yeah go from there and now I know that there’s so many other dimensions and I fully agree there’s will be and then please you know share final thoughts and end in your websites and ways people can connect with you but want one of my Thanh truoc teachers he had a very simple schematic of understanding tantric philosophiae I guess you could say and basically was it there’s there’s only ever been you can you can pretty much Place societies and cultures throughout the world in either Tantra corn on contract categories based on the qualities of what that means and that means you know on the tundra category a category of people who are celebrating pleasure and life and being grateful for the gift of life and not shaming or being afraid of icer saying wisdom Sophia I’ll be able to embracing the the pleasures of life and the Mystery of Life and not suppressing it or fighting it violently in themselves or others and her people who were on the way of being which is the suppression of all of that good in and fun stuff and so you can pretty much measure you know it even any decision or you moving in in either direction of a fear or love and so yeah I feel like that’s kind of a secret kind of a secret just a modern initiated in in in in order passport at a modern teacher but I’m sworn to secrecy I would die with just add one slight he wants to that which is I’d say this in the oxy one Puff we’re all on the time it’s just that some of us on this planet haven’t realized it yet and that stupid Behavior tell me why you cannot take to what this planet is actually for where is actually this is a great Temple of the god of us all to be that worship wisdom and Sofia were sure I stay if you want my web sites and things I suppose the best thing to look up his education aide. Net triple-double education eight. Net connections to most of my stuff like Grand Central Station I’ve got ladies website right and then this is Maurice moment she’s cool Global Green University don’t come where people can listen to lots of my teachings I’ve been doing, trees on the whale sacred texts might the Bible the Koran the books of Enoch which interests me and things like that in another world on that I put them between universities like open University online people can access the teachings app great a great honor to talk to you you’re a great guy but inside me to build myself yeah those talks and then I’ll catch up on some of that and then we’ll schedule schedule something again the near future and I hope they listening is excited to hear and learn more and please do check out the websites and yeah with that Thomas thank you again for your time and will be very soon, chess yes I can I buy you for listening to the podcast please go to and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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The How and Why of Semen Retention Part 2 with Courtney Garner TPP145


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In this episode I’m sharing the audio from a recent video shoot I did with Courtney Garner where we discuss the how and why of semen retention as a follow up to our previous podcast:

It was great fun to be in each other’s presence and share enthusiasm for this vital and under-represented aspect of sexual health, wellness, and empowerment.

To work directly with Courtney please visit her website at:

About Courtney:
I’m a fun-loving Practitioner who’s great at laying it out so you get it! Helping clients find practical ways to integrate the practice and make it work, is my priority. I frequently work with men on issues like porn addiction, sexual dysfunction, and disconnection. I’m also a huge meditation advocate, teaching kids and adults the foundation of a spiritual practice.

As a nurse, fitness advocate, and Tibetan 5 Element Healing Practitioner, I have a holistic view of health and an expanded approach to healing. Using my Western medical training and Eastern healing practices, I provide a fresh voice, for ancient practices that give results now. My mission is to support the growth of free minds; free from fear, judgment, pain… I work everyday to change the world, one mind at a time.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin their beloveds welcome to Tantra Punk podcast episode number 145 I have a audio recording from a video shoot that I did recently with Courtney Garner of absolute Tantra. Calm and we did an episode a while back called the how and why of semen retention so I’m going to add to that with this episode where we extended dialogue in the in person discussion and we got some beautiful footage it’s also on my website under the videos Tab and so you can check that out and she is a amazing wonderful practitioner of Tibetan tantric Healing Arts and she offers a lot of amazing classes and meet ups and Retreats and really appreciate that you said working within a lineage that Devi Ward one of them I believe that the main superhero ends of the modern tantric healing movement they work together and they’re both are continuing a beautiful lineage so please definitely check out Davey Awards work as well with that said enjoy the show thanks so I I’m a coach that trains actually I teach them attention on so I’m a woman teaching men how to retainer Steven so Ben is actually packages himself and he’s a man so he’s going to give us more inside on inside on doing the practice how it feels how things have changed for your body how your sexuality has evolved because the practice so yes and I have my teacher also as well I have my own way of teaching everybody’s different so it’s beautiful to connect into also commiserate and what he no deal with the different challenges we all have to face and so yeah anyting what what what what do you feel like would be good for your students and fans to motivation for a man to want to learn some region that is a good question I’d say there’s a number of them so it’s hard to choose exactly the top but I would say probably first and foremost the jealousy and envy that I have over the level of ecstasy that women get to experience almost effortlessly the right amount of sustained attention is there you know where there’s from Steven pleasuring one’s self pleasuring yourself and having a deep ritual toys or crystals are Yoni eggs or Justino manually you really don’t expire there’s a fair for me is a man that sense of depletion after spilling my seed it’s like the party’s over and I feel like I’m a party pooper by myself or with with a woman and certainly wouldn’t have been able to discover the techniques to be able to rise up to the potential of what sort of out-of-the-box the female physiology can can can have just almost for free that’s it’s a lot of work but the payoff and the reward and that the motivation is that you do get to go into those really deep Altered States orgasmic trance states that last forever and ever and you know the next priority to that would be to be a better lover in to be not only for your own sake to have that experience but also to to actually meet the the the desire that a female partner has who is kind of boring multi-orgasmic if you can be there and I show up and man up and help deliver those experiences and it’s going to really improve and she won’t be faking it you know she won’t be it won’t be a struggle it won’t be that cuz the thing that makes it so frustrating and sort of unenjoyable and making love is the idea that would say the woman is thinking oh God I have to force myself to get to climax as fast as possible because his Chariot might turn into a pumpkin do you know any time and so I had to 7 minutes to be that guy she can relax more and experience more and go there and be fully fully sucking all of you in as a being when she doesn’t have to worry about oh God I got to hurry up and do my thing otherwise I’m going to miss out and then you as the man if you’re thinking oh god I’ve got to think about dirty socks or grandma or sports or whatever you’re doing a locker room buddies told you you’re not fully present to your potential pleasure so both of you are kind of checked out and you’re in this race and you’re not fully present so I see those are the two biggest that’s the sort of the the pleasure part of it but then there’s all the health benefits there’s all of the Dinos from of the Chinese perspective it’s really a practice of of preventive medicine and also has just so many subtle energetic benefits for just overall Health and Longevity and in their system you know it’s very clear that you have a declining amount of gene or Sexual Energy so you got to pace yourself and you know there’s different systems of measurement and there’s different intervals and some some schools and traditions you have different beliefs and opinions and and Medicine behind it but I say everybody’s an individual and you can find your sweet spot but certainly the it doesn’t come for free once you get a little bit older you know me when you’re in your teens and early twenties you can spill your seed multiple times in one evening and won’t even matter if she may not even know and sometimes you can stay even fully erect and release and stay erect and in that case you know you’re golden but that doesn’t last forever so use it wisely enjoy it while it lasts I mean you have to become more of a master of yourself and really pace yourself at this stage you know in my late thirties now I really understand how passion and purpose and drive is so intimately linked to the amount of energy that you’re cultivating and holding onto and cycling and circulating up into your heart record so using is like a furnace or you know the power plant to finance energetically this higher the higher chakras and ideally you want to plan your release and have strong intentions around it really make a magical ritual to manifest cuz when you do if you spill it accidentally that’s one thing but when you actually have a purpose for it and you’re offering as a sacrifice it’s an energetic sacrifice of your most precious magical you know biological elixirs that your body produces so if you’re going to have the intention to form of life to create a baby you know that’s a powerful intention it can be ritualize and really blessed or if it’s to create something non-biological like a job promotion or creative inspiration or an album or something that’s the really intelligent and wise path of sacrificing in and really planning and making a SAT Word would say a semen party out of your your release in visualizing yourself in the last thing I’ll say on that is dead what I’ve noticed as I’ve aged a bit is that you really feel the difference like this almost like a hangover a post ejaculatory kind of hangover and I even I think I might have coin this term post ejaculatory nihilism where you start to actually go question what you’re doing with your life and you forget about your goals but when you build up that charge on like passionate if I holding my seed for a while I put so much passion and purpose into all the things I’m doing and of course you know it keeps you aroused and it keeps you horny and it keeps you excited and that whole post ejaculatory nihilism or when you know guys the withdrawal emotionally all these depressive chemicals can come out and so it’s good to cuddle afterwards too so you keep toxic close enough so those are just that’s just for me that’s with right on the tip of my tongue to share about that whole subject so no pun intended in a nutshell that’s my perspective do that I thought was really funny because special for guys who have never tried it so kind of like a totally different experience to a different idea of sexual energy of orgasm and that’s the whole point when you practically retention it does transform your relationship with orgasm with Sexual Energy with sexually as a whole and then in turn also helps you to have more compassion for women for the opposite sex to really be able to empathize with connect with them as humans because you’re not coming from them as I’m a man your woman it’s like hey where humans are tapped into myself emotionally I talked to my sexuality and I’m happy with it and because of that I can honor and see see yours and respect yours so it’s really a practice that holistic the transformational not just about having longer better sex or more I can orgasm definitely a wonderful part of it right but even just sex the reason we want to stay in that Union longer is to read higher levels right we’re not going to get too far in 5-10 minutes and orgasm but she probably won’t and then that’s outside I really understand why Ben says you feel like the party’s over if you do exactly too fast because it’s it’s snowing over for you but it’s over for her too and that lack of choice in the matter that you know bring some pipe in ballots to to the satisfaction so I’m really happy when men take him to that their responsibility to hone in on their sexual energy to have the desire great destruct self motivation to want more for themselves to be healthier to be happier cuz one of the things that I’ve learned attention is just talked to her in general I practice Tantra right so just the practice in general really empowering because it teaches you that you don’t have to suffer you don’t have to have low energy low libido you’ll have to be a slave to jacking off the corn and disconnecting yourself in your sexuality you can fix it there’s tools there’s people that know what they’re doing I could help you we’re here to help each other help each other. A better life on the earth that we share together I’m so always know that you have the power on if you don’t have the tools you can get them by the power is definitely inside you and for me I want to talk to you a little bit about me as a female practitioner working with men because it is a little different it has open me up personally to be understanding of men personal trauma that they have to deal with a drone set up negative conditioning that affects the dynamic of men and women write the patriarchal set up it’s a set of conditioning 7 trauma that men have to deal with Professor both be happy North Board of first album Mutual Mutual happy life here on Earth as a one minute it’s helping to open up two men not having the space to the emotional I didn’t know that right as it as when we kind of fall the same societal lines of men are aggressive and not too emotional that’s me know if there’s anything you don’t know how to express train in touch we are humans we both have emotions we both have the ability to get in touch with them and when we can do that when a man can’t do that dresses NACA wake it up you notice today or they just not might have been right heat and when we walk around with you got the key to the heart and so will you guys can learn from us is just tapping into that feminine energy that he that is a big man energy and what happens with are the way that we set up our men in society being hard being you know much or not having emotions as we take away turkey because you’re human but you can’t have a kid you don’t get to happen to it in an address your emotions and process them and feel heard but we’re changing that you guys were changing that going to give him space to heal we want them to be open and see retention is a practice that changes a man’s perspective it really expands it just from sexuality being a genital Center thing now it’s like six what is like part of my existence like how did I get here sexual energies what’s my most powerful force of creation Sexual Energy so are seeing retention Factor start and helps us to learn to harness the energy use it for transformation use it for healing music for happiness and pleasure and we all deserve back where you guys are a woman pleasure and orgasms and all that what are we going to do for the penis and happiness today if it is the Enigma you know how could it seems impossible right but how could you possibly control that how could you separate orgasm from ejaculation it’s like it’s like impossible but hey we got to split atoms and creep mass destruction weapons of mass destruction weapons of mass queuing and in love and miss you guys for skin intact if you make it easier to rise to the occasion and that’s a whole nother subject but that’s part of it so whether or not you have your cut or uncut you know you have a different road map for her progressing on this path and I’ll see you know as being uncut I have the blessing of having what you can call practice vagina because if it’s able to Passaic it doesn’t get shaved it doesn’t get sort of beating up throughout life do you know and it protects the sensitivity so I I do kill that family connection more grab my life and I’ve always felt that night I didn’t have to suffer that immediate trauma of just feeling butchered at Birth you know that’s really a tragic thing that we overlooked and it’s responsible for violence and culture is in Warrior Coulson just all of that is all that stuff so wherever you’re starting from with that you know the different world map like I said but it’s something to be honored and respected him and understood what are some of the ways that you get people started off I’m going to give you guys a few tips to just get started on reconnecting with your sexuality but this really what I seen your attention practice does so first thing I always say is slow down slow down is a big thing that not just sexually but everywhere we need to do right into practice slowing down because if you think about your going to take a walk through the garden you run through that Garden you’re not going to do any flowers Fountain was there just ran to the Garden but if you just slow down and take a walk through the garden you not only get to your destination with his which is orgasm we want that right but you’ll be able to really enjoy the pleasure all the way up to the orgasm flowers smell out of that so I invite you to slow down Savor your sex whether it’s with yourself or with another person favorite I’m just so much more pleasure to be had when you just be present in that moment I was just kind of rushing through it to this this instant gratification and that’s just part of our how we are these days this instant gratification is a big thing right B can Google anything to get information as soon as you want I’m communication we can pretty much contact anybody anytime you a lot until we are used to getting things very quickly so think about you orgasm your sexuality as something that is secret write something that you want to save her not to be so no rush through most of the other one just slow down the other two would be if you guys are using any outside sources of stimulation so so using foreign heavy visualisations I invite you to try and just bring that down bring your focus from your head or whatever religion is outward bring it in words I’ll try focusing on your body what do you feel how can you with your even your own hands make your body feel good what do you like so I invite you to try those things reconnect with your body with your pleasure and then see how that expands your sexual experiences with others or just expand your connections with your sexuality so you can you know you got quiet down to listen to something so this is just me telling you guys to be a little bit more quiet so you can hear what your body is saying do that let me know how it works. I love the idea that the heart chakra if you do put in effort to open at your kind of creating this magical magnetic Vortex that will suck the energy up so that feeling of your getting to the edge and you’re going to explode from the genitals actually if the Heart is Open it’s going to alleviate that pressure and it’s going to create a nice flow and it’s just going to naturally drawn up and into it and then if you can transmute it and bring it up and up and up into the third eye and Crown then you really do know cooking with grease you’re really because yeah we do want to connect a heart chakra with her sexual Kirby gray I’m going to connect those two I’m so yeah. When when you are riding to the top fires going to hot and ready to cool the fire down I think breathe in and out from the heart and that does it pulls the energy up to here and when you breathe from your heart it helps you just dissipate through the whole body so you’ll get that that Sexual grasmick Energy not just in your genitals but all over your heart your fingertips your feet so that Thing You Do arrive to that beautiful magical moment it’s a full body experience exactly any luck came to me is I’m going to step into my man I’m putting my manhood hat on right now and say For All You’ve machine heads and motor heads out there think of your heart as the radiator and your breath is the fan in that in that vehicle vehicle is trying to get you to the level of where your partner is at already you going to get in your hot rod and you’re going to fire that thing up and turn it on and you got to have if you don’t have a radiator what happens with the steam coming out of the engine you know what I mean is laughing YouTube Van running hot radiator and breathe add PVC I’m getting the tools to me sucking up and sipping up that hole for a Man Out say that you’re reeling them and Tom Sanskrit ligaments the word for penis and beans Wanda flight so it sounds really good right you guys want of light Sacred Space is the only so those are really pretty words that using your lingam as a straw to drop energy so you know if you were in Union with a woman you could sip her energy or Essence through your link up your body up your channel on your Center and then you can pretty much send that to your heart since your head at the man is really really aroused I used to tell him to pull it all the way up to his head and how to get the throttle body help from some situations keep it flowing everything you know this is all a replacement for our normal habit of holding our breath and so what we’re doing now instead of just like you know going to the orgasm for saying hey relax ride the wave ride the wave of orgasm cuz that’s what it should be like it should be something very relaxing something pleasurable something that you can just fall into a balloon we have sex now a lot of times it’s very picky coaster ride you can have a lot more pleasure beat have a lot more enjoyment feels like a nice sweetie right right a serf that don’t you think about what you think about something weird dirty thoughts are genetically and when you’re in your head you’re withdrawn energetically from your body is so we can feel that so if you’re if you’re with her and you guys are proven good and you’re about to come and you want to stop in your life we feel that break for severe able to kind of just take a breath. Up maybe to slow down or stop your your stroke but still keeping the moment these present in your body with her it’s a totally different experience to keep that connection going it’s not fixed this pause you have to take a nap to build back up your arousal connection and I’ll save him experience the more practice you have practice makes perfect of course you know you if you’ve been coached any sport or anything it’s like that it’s okay in The Mask you hyper masculine world I don’t want to call toxic with the hyper masculine world to say you expect that you’re going to be drilled by a coach and you’re going to be you know you’re going to have to practice over and over and over again no other aspect of self-mastery would you expect to Just Master out of the box but for some reason we’re so you know condition that we’re supposed to know everything and do everything right the first time and put as much effort into becoming a sexual artist and loving Artist as you would a martial artist or a sportsman or whatever so you know that here we have who else to inspire you to want to walk this so we do need more connection and we do need somewhere that’s emotionally available to talk about his feelings and I’ll be able to hear hers is one thing that happens with relationships as if you’re not emotionally connected in touch with your emotions and how the hell you going to hear mine and I know what I’m feeling right so do it for yourself and also do it for future relationships in order to have a really good connection in order to have intimacy you have to be able to do that with yourself and I know we have the stigma around anything self write in just the selfishness of self but really there’s no other there’s no other stores have to come for myself yeah Justin Moore’s the more you love yourself the more of a full overflowing container you can offer and share with other people so that you’re not sucking energy away from them you’re not a vampire you’re not super needy and totally week sexually and spiritually if you love yourself and your overflowing abundant than you can you know it’s the misery loves company and happiness loves company to so so any other thoughts just to kind of give this teaser to get people excited about it for the guys out there no matter what age you are but know a lot of younger guys will say they like there’s nothing wrong with you and really does not yet but healthy Sexual Energy strong maybe if you have multiple orgasms but the natural process of Our Lives is overtime those things are going to change and so now you have the opportunity to get yourself to a certain level we’re in your younger days you’re on already at a good at a good place now you can just max that out at in your view that have the best experience that when you do get older they not deteriorating as if no Hazard normal to start to deteriorate and so like you said with the the Chinese wear jean runs out over the years so I should become older it’s hard to get back up to Baseline you’re going to be struggling to even feel like you have a strong sexual cheap I’m so now it’s like hey you can get not only hear FaceTime you can get above that and just stay here and that pretty much makes you invincible if you guys think about it like that means you’re you’re not as not susceptible to age muscle deterioration weakness brain cloudiness I’m always things are affected by our declining Sexual Energy I’m an excess ejaculation but think about your help for sure if you’re an older man understanding that you still have the apartment in the tools to have a strong Sexual Energy even if you have gone through the natural process of it declining where to get back up to that that since I was strong Mojo can still do it just takes diligence it takes practice and it takes this love for for your yourself look word be sexual energy that is your power if you don’t do it like that it’s just can’t really motivate yourself without heart heart right like you need hard so do it for yourself do it because you need it and also if you have any Hang-Ups around you know I don’t need to know anything like I know what I’m doing I know it was know everything you’re doing and you need to put seatrain we never were trained so there’s there’s a certain base light of knowledge that we were denied a shame. I love our whole lives so now you have it available to you so I encourage you to take that knowledge for yourself for a better world and also you can spread that to Future Generations we don’t have this passing on any more negative conditioning button help you have it at about semen retention and saving your seat holding onto your juice and so yeah it’s been it’s been grand and again you know there’s a percentage of the world who likes to learn these techniques through watching the videos that I put out online and but I think there’s a greater percentage of the population that would would probably rather do this work through the educational Works in materials and coaching of this beloved goddess here Courtney so please Avail yourself of her teachings and I’m always here for you too and yeah with that will close with the time to Kiss and Say Goodbye thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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Mixing Healing, Loving, and Martial Arts with Miriam Elyse TPP144


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In this episode I’m joined by the deeply powerful and empowering Miriam Elyse for a conversation about the intersections of healing, loving, and martial arts. She shares her personal journey into her studies and practices of acupuncture, tantra, and Kalari an ancient Indian martial arts form. 

We discuss the need for training the body to be strong and defensible and our hope that modern spirituality movements will reclaim and embrace sacred warrior archetypes. 

About Miriam:
Miriam Elyse is a licensed Acupuncturist, certified Tantra Yoga practitioner and founder of Pleasure as Medicine. She has her Master’s degree in Science and Chinese Medicine, and has been practicing acupuncture for 11 years. Miriam began studying Tantra Yoga for her personal healing during Acupuncture school and she noticed how both traditions emphasize the healing effects of sexual energy. 

When she was a young woman she experienced sexual harassment that made her feel unsafe and ashamed of her body. Through intensive yoga training at the age of 18 she was able to experience power and sensuality own her body which reconnected her to her inner strength. She took on a meditation practice at a young age and began studying with healers from Native American and Tantric traditions, which now strongly influences her work.

Today Miriam has a private practice in southern California specializing in women’s sexual health, teaches monthly Tantra workshops and leads group retreats helping people reconnect to the wisdom of their bodies and remove barriers to love and pleasure.

You can find her at:
@pleasureasmedicine on instagram
Pleasure as Medicine group on Facebook.
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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved swapna Township Punk podcast episode number 144 I’m being joined by Miriam Elise who is a Healer and lover and martial arts student and I’m very excited to have her on the show to talk about her personal journey and the weaving together and mixing of these art forms mainly in the area of calliope at 2 which is arguably the world’s oldest organized martial arts form out of Kerala India and there’s a beautiful tradition of goddess Temple worship and massage and just holistic health and body work and all kinds of deep spiritual wisdom connected with the the martial art form which am I actually after having been a martial artist student and scholar and of sorts of combative arts for most of my life I had not encountered Heart by name directly although its influence so many martial arts throughout the world I hadn’t really discovered it vary directly until just this last couple of years so I’m very interested to find other folks out there especially in the tundra world who are seeking these roots and really emerging the handle of the Divine with feather need to have a lower chakras dialed in and having some physical security and situational awareness and also just the beauty that comes with them martial arts training isn’t just always about violence it’s also about just self-discipline and really developing one’s self and being able to avoid Violence by mastering it so I would that said please enjoy a mistake Marion please tell us about how you became the beautiful educator and a practitioner of all things loving and healing and self thank you so much I started it at a very young age and it came from my wanting to kill myself when I was young middle school experience lot of sexual harassment and I went home every day to an emotionally abusive family situation and I learn meditation at the age of 13 help me find another way to another way besides this world that’s in front of my eyes every day at 6:15 in 5 minute grace and Power in my body and my Sensual Body for the first time as a developing 15 year old yoga with something that really help me connect myself and went on to get my certification to teach school at the age of 22 then just knew that I wanted to be a Healer I wanted to help people facilitate healing for themselves and sure was what I chose because it it combines the body the mind and the spirit and doesn’t leave any out which I loved about the system of acupuncture and you know I’ve always had a lot of Sexual Energy my whole life I’ve had a lot of Sexual Energy running through me and it was 25 or so and the only thing that was really different between another yoga class that I could tell is that they mention Sexual Energy using the classes I would just start glowing more and more people would come to me asking about sexual health libido their relationships and it just so happens that my practice to pay more more focused around helping people heal intimacy issues on sexual issues lack of being able to orgasm and so I jumped into studying Tantra. so you know my background feels like it was this organic progression where I I started off searching for something to make me feel better in my body and my daily experience that I was really struggling and I really didn’t feel names of kids make fun of me and you know developing the power in my body is feeling this is the world about me and then bringing my sexuality into that country yoga and and recognized and there’s there’s a place for me to Channel all of this Sexual Energy channeling it into my body through my breast it’s going in every direction when you can focus it and channel it if it sounds very intentional power which is really me to study Tantra yoga so have you have you been able to mix or find the sort of parallels between acupuncture and Tantra yoga and any other modalities that you’ve you’ve come across like I’m curious how those intersect ever it’s beautiful to see just people kind of making her developing their own Styles everyone’s finding their own path and merging different things to to find what works best and so if you can talk about that and maybe how you’re able to apply that in your services with Pleasures medicine yeah that’s a great question and for a long time that was my self in Creed at was the thing that I was racking my brain trying to understand the crossover and immediately it’s it was obvious to me because I’m Chinese medicine and Tundra both both of those kind of philosophies and systems of understanding the body and believe that your sexual energy is root of your life force energy comes from the kidneys is also a newborn and it has little bit some change throughout your life from you know poor poor sleep schedule too much you know for men accusation has all kinds of an experience while sitting Tantra yoga sexual cultivation practices building Sexual Energy and then holding it or moving it to different parts body and something else that I love about about acupuncture that was based in Dallas to philosophy we believe that you know generated by so for some reason the woman is seen as this kind of pleasure machine this Honeypot The Source the source of energy of creation is this feminine the seven enforce that births all of life and it’s believed in acupuncture where is a man is sexually pleasing a woman he is actually building his own energy sources by giving her pleasure mean goddess worship here giving a woman the one in ten even medical as acupuncture Honors that you know it’s on her something that seems to be more I don’t know what it’s all it’s all esoteric but it just I just love that it actually talks about sexual pleasure and Sexual Energy is being something that’s healthy which is how I got to my business name medicine Tina for a lot of us in the last missing link between a lease or a pressure release to being something that can actually heal us and heal the people that were with is so many of us have these negative beliefs and around sexuality or anything that sets pleasure Aces hedonistic and Hedonism in fat and he miss him is something that is going to make you selfish and make you want to take everything for yourself and not can I sync starting to reframe your your relationship to pleasure just like things that normally so the substance of things they determined take people away from God or can cause addiction and causes Extinction one of them being masturbation another one being sex and alcohol use them in small amounts in your Puja in your worship so the idea is that you know if I can be intimate with this substance and use it as way to get closer to what I truly want which is an India that’s Enlightenment closer to God part of my life and I just I love how there’s there’s medicine even in what some people think is a poison and so you know pleasure as medicine what what do you have in your life that gives you pleasure that you can use in the right way in order to heal you in order to get you what you want being close to God or just more self-love right so that you know this to be an interesting question for you I’ve joked about this with other friends to be kind of try to reverse-engineer those those five elements you’re talking about and really try to understand the the logic behind it or at least Wonder but the logic behind it cuz there’s you know there’s some different schools of thought but it seems like it could be boiled down essentially to Trent basically ritualized transgression of cultural conditioning that limits your your free experience of the senses and not feeling Bound by it or being neurotic about social rules that sometimes they’re serving the interests that that maybe aren’t your own and they. Just give me the kind of break free from that and I don’t know if you would agree you know word for word with that that approached her that thesis but friends of mine We’ve joked about how in the modern world so it was fishing to Modern Western world breaking those five addictive or those transgressive things are probably things like having a day without a cell phone or not checking your email your Facebook or or having open relationships or something where you’re being challenged to look at something that you really phobic about her that you really addicted to I’m wondering if you if you’ve ever kind of had that thought experiment about what if there is a way to extrapolate since you know some of those things the grain officiants not so much unless you’re you know straight vegan is not necessarily as much of a taboo right so as I give you kind of ever wondered about how you might extrapolate that to Maps out onto the modern lifestyle and then in the West I like that you know I like that idea, I think that’s definitely a spiritual practice on its own is yourself of things that normally take you away from presents I think something different about in order to get you to where you want to go instead of instead of them being forced to block you is that all of these things has power to that like no alcohol for example has has the power to numb you and release your inhibitions right but when he says that the alcohol you infuse it with Mantra See you first Infuse the Montreal you let the the molecules of this this liquid Viagra West with the ceiling mancha and then the alcoholics else increases your circulation and opens you up open opens your body opens your mind opens your eyes with this Mantra movie ideas that you’re using a lot of power and meech meet you know eating meat is your eating another animal you’re eating like a living animal and you get more like potentially more energy from eating a bite of meat and you do from eating a vegetable I guess that’s controversial and open to discussion also between. Quarries in India want to be reborn as one one of the ones that get to smoke all day and masturbate and just eat without any of the strictures of yeah it’s like that that’s the kind of renunciation that drives with my punk rock I like I’m actually faster to buy them because it is said it said that they each and copulate with the dead bodies and disgusting oh my God what I understand is when they’re doing a say they’re even sitting on top of the dead body they’re eating it or having sex with it or whatever and they’re chanting a mantra at the same time so I can be with God here then I’m free if I can beat you with God if I can still feel God’s presence the Divine in my body when I’m doing the most horrible disgusting thing then nothing has the power to take me away from my God awareness well that’s well she definitely need to have some consent forms for that to happen in the modern world it somehow makes it beautiful for me oh yeah I can understand the poetry and honestly I think we’ll have all the things that we donate our organs in our bodies to in the name of science you know how can we how could we judge Wright how can the West judge with all of the you know that practices that we vivisection and you know all the stuff so it’s definitely always a mind-expanding experience to have these conversations in wow so I coming back into your journey and your practice I would love to hear about your how calorie has entered your life how you discovered that and integrated it and just so I understand you you took a trip and you’ve done some study directly in India with actual Masters and so it’s very heavy of a very unique perspective that I want to hear bow India trip was two years ago and it was when I was really really introduced to kalaria is living at a place and they had three classes every day one at Sunrise mosquitoes so you know I experienced getting up going across the highway to get some chili running backs to Calera practice before I was even awake and Drew Ali watching the Masters craft a beautiful balance between call masking fluid graceful tree I really just had this this deep understanding washing a class one day that I wasn’t how it seems like it seems like a lot of the movements are designed to move cooling energy throughout your body movements when your spine is moving all around here normally would make me feel very high and disembodied and bringing it straight down in jumping on the ground on the earth and I just fell in love with it as a way to move move energy for your body my my understanding of of Martial Arts kalari yoga any physical practice that requires you to sweat in your body and steal your pain and feel what happens in your muscles when they’re shaking and you have to push forward anyways is the warrior mindset something really sitting there and she has that balance between being a war art and Art of War and an art of healing and it’s interesting cuz those two things right Warren healing seem to be such a dichotomy but in reality I think of what I’ve been through to get through your deepest pain that you experience the greatest feeling I’ve struggled the most should I’ve had to be in my own life after I killed myself so somehow warn healing do go together right and this this practice of kalari weather Atlantic I know there’s other martial arts that have this beautiful dance to them that like half of metaphor example is both a dance and an art of fighting and it feels like being able to keep your focus being able to keep your mind still while your body is doing these really extreme movements is part of just training yourself to be a warrior in daily life and it’s incredibly important to have that grounding and that’s pierced focus and determination especially if you’re doing sexual practices you know practices that strong really strong energy if you don’t know how to hold that the container energy in your body and your nervous system it’s likely that you’re going to experience negative side effects of negative effects of what can happen to one’s ego if they do suck their sexual energy without really you know clear self-awareness yeah I totally agree in and I would say that this is a pretty much lifelong martial artist that I consider just the doing the combative movements in dance formats really keeps you rejuvenated and keeps you flexible keeps you strong and agile and graceful and I’m careful of like you said aware of yourself and it has just flowed very naturally for me and so it’s just been delightful and exhilarating to know that really the the roots of pretty much all of the Eastern martial arts can be attributed to these roots of kalari and so you know the goddess Worship in the temple is in the secret Temple design and knowing that some people were using you know they were worshipping the goddess and celebrating Divine femininity and Earthly and divine forms and when people came to threaten their way of life they had the means to defend and fight off and and not always successfully because you know it’s a stairs ruined temples many temples and ruin still today but and the suppression of the the more matriarchal aspects of it but it hasn’t been totally concur until he destroyed so I’m just thrilled to know that that we’re hopefully there will be as much I mean my my prayer is that there will be as much adoption and embracing of the these defensive strategies and if the health value in the combative value of them as we have absorbed in the west all of the yoga and now well not all of it but we’re Seekers are discovering a vast array of scriptural knowledge and yogurt practices that have just only really recently begun to accelerate in the sexual Dimensions with with the more left-hand passage path yoga or Tantra yoga and read Township so this seems like it’s the next wave of integration from you know we’ve already got all these karate Studios already got all this Kung Fu and we don’t have the sacred sexuality practices but we’re we love yoga and we love meditation and we love dancing so hopefully yeah this can be a new a new sort of path forward so do you have a you have thoughts about just Visions for how your involvement with Clary may I understand you’re just bring students through Retreats two different teachers in your kind of facilitating more engagement right with this system yeah yeah and just as you’re talking to eena to come in and what you’re saying something about say kalari you mentioning that Clary is a strength for protection rights protects a Continuum from one extreme to the scale be needed protecting something you love any other extreme would be something that you hate feel like a lot of the way inside a better perspective about anger beautiful it is to use that anger the power in the healing potential and using something you love him against fighting cuz it’s saying I’m against fighting that’s about the heart and Clary has the potential to change the way that are our Warriors are martial artists in our culture coming up I have this Retreat and Kawaii why I’m collaborating with two other incredible amazing yoga teacher and then one more Central aspect of it so necessary strength along with surrender the two opposite Parts together and so having a more sensual sex positive practices about worshiping Beauty worshipping the sacred feminine flower rituals are actually vegetables and then having those strong practices we are confronting your own in the physical body you know and it seems like such a whole way to heal a sexual body actually a year from now next year I’m planning on taking a group on a pilgrimage that unchecked pilgrimage in India studying with Larry Master every day and is the benefit of having a strong physical practice with some sensual opening expensive practices beautiful yeah thank you so this is the dimension of really healing and bridging and reconnecting the this Continuum of calling sacred violence when a when a mud mama bear has to defend her Cubs that’s righteous Rage that’s where we have the capacity to Anchor access and direct our nervous systems for defending others in defending ourselves like you said out of love and protection and I feel like it’s a real it’s been a real kind of cognitive dissonance I guess or just a disconnect for people in the The New Age kind of Dino gets a lot of biggest stereotyped a lot but but really there’s there certain aspects of the so-called New Age movement that have lost that groundedness and sort of them I mean there’s like if I could get personal for a second I’ll say now I’m as it as a survivor of sexual abuse and his one who has had almost all of the women and all of the partners in my life be survivors of rape and abuse I don’t share some of the the more kind of Airy fairy ideas a tow if you just vibrates that you were Invincible as you walk down the street with no situational awareness and no tactical training and no skills or even pepper spray or any awareness of your surroundings and you’ll just be immune to attack in and I don’t want to be paranoid or so you don’t have so much PTSD that that I can’t that I start to have no delusions of threats that aren’t there but the statistics and the just the you know the people who do the the work of addressing chronic issues of violence against women sexual assault they I don’t think that they consider themselves to be super and lighting their spiritual but I respect their Spiritual Development when it comes to this stuff more than I would say people who could just kind of Vape they pray but they don’t move their feet you know they say tie up your horse before you kneel down and pray you know so it’s kind of like having that physical realm dialed in and I’m just curious if you have encountered that a backlash or sort of shining of the solstices you can’t talk about fighting in war and we’re supposed to be beyond that right we’re supposed to be just floating in the clouds in the sky it does actually and it really does resume I mean you know my first like I was saying my first practice my first spiritual meditation session age to learn how to just live in this world of light that I created my own head right but it was also I was also escaping it was like I was seeing and my mother I mean bless her to my mom’s amazing she she’s going to take me to yoga and I have a very close relationship with her and she ain’t no more comes from the school of thought that you may think positive and positive things will happen and is less comfortable with less she doesn’t she looks quiles as comfortable with really getting down into the shadow work in the nitty-gritty band that might be hurt her path that’s different from mine but what I’ve found for my own life is I spent so long you know trying to run from what I didn’t feel good sugar coat it spiritually bypass it by just thinking that I could change my reality with my mind but there was a couple korfez there’s there’s a couple trama beliefs pains you know of course are RNs from you know early childhood most people have something is like an anchor in their Spiritual Development keeping them from getting until I touched my rage you know it wasn’t until I touched my pain met face-to-face you know I had a vision one time of screaming at the top of my lungs as a lion is staring me in the eyes roaring at me meeting you face to face and I’m not going to I’m not going to pretend you’re not there I’m not going to let you know just try to dance around you I’m just going to meet you with all that I am show up for that with all my power and there’s so much power that’s locked in the body at slots in your ability to really stand strong and protect yourself you know and if you’re kind of lost in the mind and daydreaming around situations trying to keep yourself safe by thinking positive I do believe in some situations in a lot of situations that’s helpful on the street thinking oh my God I’m going to get so they’re going to look at me they’re going to take advantage of me or they’re going to want to start a fight I’ll be driving that to you I definitely believe that that’s true but what’s more powerful I believe is is walking in a walking with the speaking sauce but carrying a big stick like you have the tools with the necessary in case anything’s going to happen because you want to cause fighting not because you want to bring conflict to you but that actually adds to your confidence of saying okay you know what I am I hope I never have to use this but I have this in my tool-kit and I’m protecting something I love you know and there’s a lot of spiritual bypassing that’s going on in in our community and I recently a few months ago maybe a year ago I Rossini recognized is that I have been spiritual bypassing and wasn’t even aware of it to not feel my pain I was really uncomfortable with actually experiencing anger and so all of my where would show up as disconnecting I would just disconnect I would go silent I would shut down my relationships can only go so far and Smit of human civilization must be controlled fire all of a sudden we can control so much and that’s what works with anger is a beautiful thing about these martial arts and it’s killing us power and learning to control it in a way that actually is healing beautiful I was so amazing so have you Clary is I guess in my I have not formally studied her I’m just kind of academically and athletically studying it and I actually what I what I have what has it come to me sort of as a I guess you know how certain teachers will come to your life and come into your life through certain kind of indicating that there’s there’s more maybe some form of cosmic guidance it’s happening that it wasn’t just you going out and seeking something and thinking that you like having in your your your Serta small egoic mind having a good idea or vision and not knowing how blessed it is or how to find it is but just going for it but then something that comes from a very serendipitous kind of entry point your life gives you more pause and reason to think hey this is may be a sign or maybe you’re saying with that kind of having that kind of experience will this is an interesting something to to just put out there to think about time is it what what a form of martial arts that came to me a combative form very tactical very strategic and very efficient and streamlined as far as the movements and not not so much about the the Beauty and the dancing but more just about like extremely direct and extremely Just Close Quarter is what it’s called pekiti tirsia Kali and it’s a meditation of the the more Artful more sort of Dancy performance art kind of tradition in the Philippines of stick fighting and knife fighting and they have a specific kind of short sword that’s used but the the pekiti tirsia Kali Wing or branch of it was kind of honed for very extreme close quarter combat in a big chain with the V on military uses it and it’s actually one of the few militaries in the world that still uses a legacy traditional martial art with knives as well and sword so it’s just it’s at it was a fascinating martial art when I enter my life through through my instructor and he was bringing up in class talking about the Naga and the snake and we were using the sort of Yoni triangle is the pattern for the footwork and it just I knew he was also studying Tantra and so I wasn’t sure he was kind of blending and kind of mixing with his own sword Earth on what work for him as far as medicine metaphors you know but actually when I started looking into it more it turns out that there’s a hole. Of time where there was peaceful trading going on between India and the islands of the Philippines and so they were basically delegates of what probably was a some car a permutation and then to resist cultural exchange so they’ve got the snake iconography built into it there are the yantra type figures built into it and it’s just an interesting Rabbit Hole to to to look at how the fighting Arts from India and some of the Sanskrit language is well some of the mantras and whatnot are actually embedded and now the Filipino Marines are essentially whether they’re paying exact tribute to at their they’re walking breathing embodiments of the fierce Goddess from India and it’s amazing and so you know when I am in its it should be no surprise that the Filipinos and using their combative Arts they’ve with the indigenous tactics that were embedded previously and with the merging of these principles they fought off almost more successfully than almost any other indigenous population the world their history of success against the Spanish the Japanese and the Americans it’s pretty there like The Undefeated Champs of the world I feel like that and then I discovered that there is an Indian military officer who went to the Philippines to train with their top pekiti tirsia Kali Master the military I believe you would say he’s a high ranking military officer who is like the the Grand Master of that system of Pookie Trisha and so there was a guy like a members name of key went from India the Indian military to go train with the bikini Trisha military in the Philippines and now he does women self defense in India for women in girls who are just them obviously in India at some of the most highly most grotesque victims of sexual and and political social and marital violence and whatnot so yeah I just wanted to kind of see that out there in the conscious too or just sort of feedback loop and I’m just I’m really excited and curious to find again anybody out there whose Creuset mixing these arts and I’m studying these is lineages and whatnot so kind of with that said my question for you is do you feel that it’s your calling or maybe something that you could kind of advise or facilitating some way just a sort of merging of the the whatever color you or any other self defense strategies and actually integrating really practical self-defense seminars and training so that really you know young women can be essentially raping reproofing their lifestyle with you know what some of the more creative and some of the more the more Artful aspects of Glory but also some of the more street fighting tactical self-defense Maneuvers that you know you can’t really always carry around a sword and shield and do acrobatics it’s a different time you know different laws in different you know enemy so just curious if you if you think about that help you can start really giving people the tools to do to the Practical self-defense to see no friends my life who have been actual we Thai kickboxing instructors woman whose off it’s so important to learn those things especially you know for young woman in that it may be putting in the dangerous area something that that I am capable of helping people that have been teaching people women and men as you begin to move differently when you begin to have a new relationship with your body and strengthen your core strength in your stomach open your chest you stand differently every day from more of a stable Centerpoint and the way that that affects your mind the way that having that strong stable Center at strong core begins to affect your mind waiting think about yourself and also the way that people perceive you when you walk up to them that alone is a self defense tactic it’s also a demanding Respect by the way that you move by the way you hold yourself example you know there were studies done of people interviewing for this high-powered job and the people interviewing for the position and they had no five of them stand in the bathroom before hands in Warrior one with your arms up in the air your chest lifted your legs spread out wide and big smile on your face next Sammy like this for five minutes in the bathroom right and they had the control group and then the group I don’t know what I’m trying to say is the people who had done that practice of standing with their arms we are with their chest open with their legs spread while we’re all to be more confident more likeable and more fit for the job yeah just sending that way for 5 minutes and so that that makes you wonder really like the way that were sitting the way that we’re holding our power really does affect a lot more than were conscious power is not understand what they’re with their blockages are there mental blockages let me bring this into the body where does that live in your body and then doing breast and exercises and you know different yoga distance taxi change the physiology that story that belief that Spirits have locked in your physiology scientific physiological ways to heal and wasted to defend yourselves how to kickbox somebody in the head after 6 I’m sure also studies that would that would support the idea that the more self-respect that you have through self-defense training of whatever kind whether it’s more of a performance art or a sportive or Tactical but the reality is if you have a weariness of your intuition and you’re listening to your body in your avoiding really I am and I think that this is this is definitely not me saying that sort of typical really demeaning adage about how we know what was you were asking for it based on what you were wearing or you were kind of that whole that whole really sort of sad and demoralizing really misogynist view is it’s it’s not that I’m certainly not wanting to step into that territory it all but you know Point like to make adjust it as a scrubber myself as someone who has fought off Violet actress I’ve been in I’ve survived Mortal Kombat on numerous occasions just being on the street and you know I can say that the if you don’t love yourself if you don’t have a strong core like you’re saying a really you know really built up strong sense of self and purpose and your role in the world value for yourself then it’s easy to be seduced into the traps that Predator set you know and there’s always like a there’s always an intuition that can be heard before an incident happens in and it’s often reported that if you you had some nine sense that something bad was going to happen but if you desire attention or desire love that you’re not getting or just let your guard down and there are so many sharks out there in all situations whether it’s business or sex or just bars any words yeah it’s important to build that build up that strengthen in your eye feel like to avoid like what you’re saying that the conditioning a psychological spiritual and physical conditioning can make you avoid really bad situations that leave you exposed and so that’s you may never have to I mean like even Bruce Lee after he after he became a world famous martial arts instructor he was only ever reported to have been in one incident of physical combat where he was walking down the street with some of his friends in and some somebody Camp to him and he used his classic blade kick to the to the me to to make the longest weapon hit the nearest Target he sorted the mugging and the guy probably lamps off if you were going to do but just this the more you train the less you’re going to fight cuz you’re going to avoid stupid situations and stupid people and not do so many stupid things and then you know you have so much more respect for yourself and martial art training must have seen this type of training seems like it’s it’s more for us than it is against anyone you know it’s more for you than your attacker yeah you’re the most people yeah we aren’t we can be our own worst enemies and we conquering our own inner demons with the rigor of the will of them self development you know it really was photos well on yeah I’m so glad again thank you again so much for for being hoping to have this conversation it’s it feels like it feels like this is going to really help add value to what is what has been you know that that very kind of a wet noodle spirituality I love it yeah has so yeah I want to respect your time and just see if you have any additional thought certainly tell us about how folks can get connected with you and you know any offerings that you have people should know about any final words that you like to share that be great I really appreciate this opportunity just to talk and you know open up open up our minds together and then you know share share passions like this is really good experience and she know for those you this evening if you want more information on me or who I admire you know working with me my website is Miriam at least Stockholm but Sam i r i a n e l y s e. Calm and I have like my personal story and then I also some running this Retreat and Kawaii like I was mentioning let’s go to the first week of August and really really excited that the three of us coming together we we’re just all really deeply passionate about what were what were creating and what we’re offering and it’s going to be unlike any other any other retreat so really excited about that and that’s a tantra yoga immersion. Com check out our website and then upcoming it has really been announced yet but I’m probably too excited to not announced it so India next year 2019 in March going to be cold facilitating a two-week a ton truck journey through India with the Clarion structures and really deepening into emerging and actually are more sexual Tantra practices with the more traditional left hand pass at India Indian touch with everything I have going on right now thank you so much for doing all that and hopefully yeah when whenever you have time certainly after these smiles Johnson please I hope it will be in touch and you can continue to share your journey with us I really appreciate it and this is so needed and yeah so do you have any last words of wisdom you want to share before we wrap up thank you again for having me all right man will thank you again and we will definitely be in touch soon so have a great wonderful rest of your evening the township Time Podcast please go to can cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to see me and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples up here by Tycho logical employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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