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How Tantric Porn Can Save the World with Lawrence Lanoff TPP86

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Tantra Punk PicThis is a unique episode wherein I invited one of my main tantric mentors to help me process after several days at the XBiz adult industry trade show. Over the course of the last year I’ve been immersing myself in the adult entertainment industry in order to understand how best to bring the tantric and shamanic sexual healing arts into the light and in front of the lens.

I’ve been artistically and spiritually successful and with the research, development, and due diligence I’ve done, I’m hoping that with the right help, I will also be financially successful and thus be empowered to incite and accelerate a higher level of consciousness in porn.

Lawrence very graciously holds space for me to share what I’ve discovered and helps to inform, guide and direct my visions with his knowledge and wisdom as both a tantra master and veteran Playboy director and producer.

Please visit his website at:
http://www.lawrencelanoff.com

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Com and our journey together will begin welcome to podcast episode number 86 this is a discussion with Lawrence lanoff and before I get into our dialogue and introduction I’m just want to preface a bit by saying that some of you listen to have been following for a while now kind of can grasp this evolution of my foray into the modern adult entertainment industry and the sort of mission that I’ve been on too kind of understand the industry and build alliances and really try to find partner is to develop a tantric in shamanic Niche within the industry and it’s been it’s been a really exciting journey and I’ve learned so much really over the last year of deep conversion into M into all this in so the kind of the Milestone or Pinnacle that’s far was going to this Expedition show the one of the main you know International adult industry trade shows where they had a track of sessions with panels and workshops and speakers and presenters and I just really was blessed to him I have a really positive interaction with a lot of people in and do a lot of people who I had only known them by but say a logo or a brand or something and I got to really connect with them and just get into that that humanists behind the scenes really everyone you know I’m trying to make a living and you know that all of the Shadow and the dark side stuff that I’m really passionate about transforming it’s it’s it’s interesting that there’s a lot of fun of interest in what what could be the next level of extreme or what could be you know not how can you take the sentiment of being anti porn and turn it into positive uplifting spiritual porn instead of fighting all of what you disagree with it’s like if you can’t beat them join them and I’m really feeling that there is a a Synergy in a Harmony and a deep level core level in the benevolent humanness Underneath It All under the sheets and Vine the cameras and whatever level of Consciousness I feel they could be pushed forward or towards Transcendence or whatever kind of you know elitist sometimes a posturing that spiritual people can take towards quote non-spiritual people or materialistic people or lower chakra people or whatever it is you know it’s just that there’s a very endearing quality to a lot of people in that in the industry that I got to you know connect with and even people who like I said me on doing things that I really don’t resonate with just looking into their eyes and seeing their there’s a sweetness and there’s really even in that you know within these an industry professionals they look at the people who are doing really really dishonorable things and just sort of stayed there is there is an exclusive nusenda shining that happens internally I guess since so there’s that was hopeful for me to see okay yeah there is some discretion and what the lawyers were saying and what the most successful producers of singing that people already know taking risks and enter pretty much Outlaws to do any of this even though there is some constitutional protection in some places in jurisdictions effect is everybody is it some it some there many links in the chain of adult in of adult production involves being an outlaw so there’s a camaraderie in this an honor among Thieves kind of you know Vibe and and people so the people kind of have each other’s backs and the Trade Organization the Free Speech Coalition it starts out there you know fighting against all of these oppressive Andra cursive forces and trying to sort of carve out the space for sexual expression as an art form and you know all of the queer porn all the feminist porn has these Elders to think who who you know broke that taboo by making adult content and not all of it was I mean most of it has been historically to serve the market of the male gaze but we’re now able and away thanks to that you know work that they have done able to open the space for new discourse and there’s a sort of yeah there’s a Lineage 2 to really understand so it’s it’s a deep and complex issue is certainly not at all simplistic from any angle and I really kind of just wanted before getting into this very very passionate discourse with Lawrence just say that you know that the resounding conclusion from this industry of activists Free Speech Outlaws of porn production and distribution and sales and marketing and Performing everything it’s like make stuff that make content that you’re proud of and that you’re willing to fight for it cuz there’s no matter what you’re doing there is somebody out there who is going to make it their mission and purpose in life to try to take you down for whatever reason it’s to empowering to women it’s not enough parent it’s not empowering enough to women and it’s obvious where I stand on that is you know operating under the the label of feminist you know there is but the even that is is complex so not everybody has the same definition of feminism certainly not telling his porn but what it comes down to it the end of the day everybody there they’re going to fight for each other in court in in the public space in the media you know on the red carpets of the porn Awards they will all have each other’s backs and fight for each other as long as you know able to defend and be proud of their content and I’m certainly you know I’m I’m I’m attempting to make content that is going to really be inclusive and increase that the proudness factor going into sectors that before have been extremely hard to warm up to any of this and you know for example making something you know making content that’s the parents and religious leaders will undeniably feel is wholesome and Redemptive and actually instructive and perhaps you know in absolutely in line with the spirit of the or the essence of the scriptures that are attempting to provide guidance for us about how to avoid the the Peril of unconscious unloving disconnected fornication or sexual activity that is is potentially can be can be potentially contaminated by extra-dimensional beings some people call him demon some people call him astral parasites some people call him you know bad spirits or whatever but the a point is on a scientific medical immunological epidemiological parasitological level of science however you mythologize about it sacred sexuality is a technology and it is what every religion is essentially groping for and some of them are more or less in the dark about it or in the Dark Ages about it and you know what I hope to be bringing as far as bringing the light it’s bringing the Psychedelic shamanic lens to sexual conduct and if that can be you know embraced by the religious right by the porn industry by other porn performers themselves and the producers then I think the world will Keith better place and I will certainly be proud to be a part of that shamanic porn Revolution so with that said we’ll get more into the sort of nuts and bolts with Lawrence about the industry and the state of our sexual Liberation and empowerment and healing and he’s certainly the man when it comes to all the stuff I bow down and I am everything I say and do I consider to be you no dancing on the backs of giants such as himself and another man for those who have had on the show so please enjoy it thank you for bearing with that introduction and also just know that I get pretty passionate at times so I take the lead on a lot of fun the issues and I’m passionate about and then again I’m I’m just saying in advance a big thanks to Lawrence for holding space for me to be this younger Buck who’s kind of you know ready to take all this on and in seeking his his wisdom and advisement as a veteran of the industry so yeah thanks for listening and I hope you enjoy it I am here with Lawrence lanoff what I who I considered to be the Obi-Wan Kenobi of Tantra my one of my esteem spiritual mentors and somebody I truly deeply look up to as an older brother in this path and we’re we’re going to catch up a bit from the last time where we did a declaration of sexual human rights assertive Treatise on what we’re up against and how to unfuck your mind and yeah and so yeah you want to talk a bit about where you what you been up to over the last year I continue this journey of on fucking your mind honestly cuz I just feel like it’s probably one of the most important things that we can do for ourselves it is especially you know especially in this day in age like it’s just such an important thing in there so many things that call at our attention so I’ve continued to be offering Alternatives because I understand for some people you know some people like mindfuckery and maybe they think like I was talking with that young woman at the farmers market and she was telling me you know I’m doing this training and I’m really excited about it and I know I can handle myself and you know kind of all these things that come a kind of bravado that comes from not really understanding how treacherous the territory actually is it’s kind of like a you know anyway ignorance is bliss so what I would have been doing is continuing to give people alternative ways of looking at things I’m thinking about things so that they can more deeply unfuck their mind and in fact I have a on that note I have a woman’s Tantra training coming up in Sedona and that you know. Is to help women unfuck their minds there for their bodies and the same you know the same is true with the guys have been working with them some of these projects so here we are you know year later I feel like it’s needed more than ever because there’s a lot of mindfuckery out there so that’s where I’m at an absolutely I’ve been following the podcast and it’s one gym after the next end yes seriously good stuff I mean I thought I had balls with what I was getting into topic Weiss and you put me to shame so I’ve about yeah well you first meet me there you go so I’m glad you said yes and amazing voices out there and yeah the kind of the context that we that we started that was my my profound interest in the work you had done with the red hot touch and the bringing conscious erotica training into the realm of adult entertainment which you have that solid background in with Playboy directing and producing in your own array of projects and that intrigued me when I first heard about you on the Laurie handlers podcast and thought it was so amazing that there’s this attempt to or an opportunity to bridge the gap between sacred sexuality practitioners and instructors and and temples and all of that Network and actually since not a lot of them seem like they’re really willing to become porn performers per se or adult performers there is opportunity to just straight-up hire established performers who have all their fans and actually sort of gracefully approach that whole world and bring the beauty of the experience which speaks for itself out and Doctor Nation or ideology or you know I’m a crusade but more of just an offering and an invitation and since you had done that and I discovered that work and I wanted to connect with you we’ve talked it Avian and it sort of seated some ideas and then I’ve been pretty much since then been on a mission to hack the porn industry and figure out how to figure out really like do Dylan due diligence as I’m I’m going to be investing my body I’m going to be risking my health investing money and all these things that if you were you know working with the A-Team Angel Investors they would expect you to have a business plan and and do your due diligence and so what I’ve come back come back to you after a year of deep study and an immersion is a lot of insight that I kind of want to share with you and get some feedback on and sort of talked about a bigger picture potential to really navigate some of the madness that is the current state of the porn industry from the laws to the performers to the etiquette and the the hierarchy and the politics and figure out what the opportunity really is because I know there’s people with money out there I know that you are a world-class producer and I dunno establishing myself to be a performer and there’s nothing but mind fucked or poorly fucked or both women out there in that world and and men to sew and everything in between soaps before I kind of gives like a a briefing here to the to the conversation where is your heart at now with all this and you know the whole Enterprise is pouring virtual reality these Innovations and we know where how do you see yourself in this in this evolving discourse and technological platform and media platform I you know I am so I mean it sounds silly to say but I am so Pro technology on so many levels I I see technology as an extension of human consciousness in a sense and that Consciousness can be kind of you know very pedestrian or it can be a kind of exalted Consciousness if you will like something that maybe I guess I would call it like the difference between technology that focuses on you know making your life one way or another more painful or technology that focuses your life energy and force on making your life better qualitatively and I feel like all these technologies have that potential they have the potential to really qualitatively created different life for people and when you have you know when you’re in a situation where the culture we grow up and is so messed up around 6 to begin with and then because we don’t talk about it it ends up the default teachers end up being the porn industry itself which is a little bit of like the snake eating its own tail and then they you know than anything else all these kinds of generalizations and stereotypes that people end up learning so where that leaves us is technology that has massive potential but ends up getting utilized by kind of the lowest common denominator and there’s like a pandering to that that’s like it you know you’ve you offer that to people and they like it so you make more of that content so they liked it more until there is he’s weird paradoxes where you know this question of what which comes first is it the chicken or the egg well that’s actually a trick question because she comes first but the butt but I feel like that’s you know that’s where I am on this I mean you have these incredible breakthroughs you have a limited sex education and for many people Limited sexual access so how do you navigate that territory with the tools that we have and I feel like that’s that’s kind of the precipice tree stand near the edge of in this discussion right absolutely me that’s a good a Segway for for me to give you this update about what you know really is the future of all this stuff based on the top industry you know innovators and and a sort of yeah they’re breaking a lot of ground with 3D and VR and now really the what is looking like it’s going to be the the the next next level is this sort of reactive gel-like substance that is sort of intelligent dues that’s not really slimy but just kind of encapsulated in some kind of skin like sort of container service or like a I mean I guess if you imagine if you filled a plastic bag with Jello and made it intelligent through some sort of now know something then it could actually respond and conform and because you know I like the Terminator 2 like liquid metal but it would be something soft and Squishy and phuckable and squeezable that would squeeze you back and it would be dynamic in this virtual reality world so you would be you know having your virtual reality sex that’s feeding your eye sockets and then the dynamic interplay of whatever your whatever it however the system reads your movements and you were accusing your eye movements and we’re not you’re going to have this this fuck quad make bean bag Attack of the Killer sexy beanbag experience that’s going to just be no blow your mind and you know they’ve got the dolls and robots but then you’re looking at a dollar a robot but if you’re looking at your favorite pornstar and this this you know fuck bag thing is is is taken care of you then I guess that’s really where it’s all headed and and it’s again I’m I’m with you on on being you know as much as I’d like us to go back to you know the the the most Primal way of being on Earth it’s not likely it’s going to happen it’s more likely that if you protest technology you’re just going to be left behind and be unheard and irrelevant not even have a voice so you kind of have to yeah be involved in some way and even if it’s to subvert it or you know there was a sort of a group discussion I had when I asked at one of the panels it was like women women porn and it was the top kind of execs and entrepreneurs and just a whole panel of of really that the women in porn who were going to not let you tell that tell them that they’re being exploited do you know they’re going to tell you that they’re killing it and you know it’s none of your business so you know they had a question answer section I got it from you said you know who is anybody I mean I’m looking for I like to know if there is a a secret class of already trained country cozort dakinis who have found their way into pornstar dim or four star or being starlets in the point in history who who I don’t know about who they might know about you-know-who so and so she’s a total knee whatever I’m like we should talk cuz this is what my my you know vision is into didn’t really find didn’t really get any any answer about who that might be or if there are people like that but just having spoken the word Tantra in that space it it did Drew a few people out of the crowd afterwards and we had a like Mastermind conversation about know what we can bring to this and I was pleased that there were other likes very well trained you know seasoned veteran Township people there and we were just yet actually having this Jam conversation about you know toys versus shift in Consciousness to facilitate more group sexual activity and sacred containers and what the it’s funny cuz there’s people who go from being total communal Visionaries are like I want to live in a I want to live in a group you know social atmosphere where is communal and we all male do each other’s dishes and it’s going to be Utopia and it’s going to be a tribe and then they have a few months of that and it’s like dish CSI every day and that’s the Achilles heel of every to go over really switch and then they they pendulum all the way back into like I’m never doing that again I’m going to my apartment so it’s like this dichotomy between mediated sex toys and robots and virtual reality aloneness and physical separation and and the Peril of that versus the Peril of but but getting my needs met in a relationship or in a group of poly people or toxic people is so filled with Peril as well there’s really no you can’t just offer the the you know what I like to see is like a you know what these these toys and these programs in this software is is obsolete because people actually touching each other lovingly and connecting and fucking each other’s brains out more than any other activity you know of besides gardening and sleeping and that’s you know where we go but that’s there’s this I guess tension between all that so where do you see the sort of Continuum between virtual and dharmic opportunity to step up you know the way that you guys did you know back in the day so I just want to bow down deeply and in just feel this moment I feel like what you going to work that you did could really be embraced by let’s say the top pornstars in the world we know they just have to have a one experience of being shocked if I’d you know doesn’t have to be the most extreme Kundalini activation that’s ever happened but just that feeling of there being something loving comforting nurturing that’s beyond you and your mind and your partner and that dissolution into the Divine that’s what we’re talking about that people have just not had the the training to experience so let me add into that that Christopher who built the first Temple Hills and made the video and audio Studio the idea behind not in the idea that we shared and came together around was that you can prove to you that the media confer the equivalent of shop Peapod and that is the interest in really being able to use the media to the new Consciousness God is consciousness is totally imbued with experience it’s what you feel you have to feel it through your being condescending a level and I’m certain EU I’m sure you’re not a practitioner of country with understand that you know what is being built a try to be accessed through the practices it’s the practice he that show off because one can actually manifest and transmit that that energy way that this wave which is the sublime Phoenix but is that the blitz of the gods and goddesses that they are all in this Union space of a blessed and the nectar of that you needed to shower and down and when you can create that wave and I believe that way if it is a transferable energy field which if it’s really establish that can be communicated and transmitted to other people through the media for the sound and light and vibration frequency office amazing gift because that is touching the stars and that to me is in a day it’s been able to tune into that multidimensional nature of the staff and to then tune all that you are all the eats a dune feel to those principles of you know Divine connection and connection Inc you know see the other as yourself understand that they think I’m depending the, that comes back to you so if you just understand that going to happen and all you’re going to want to do is put out the best of all that you can be and how do you be your best you be your best by June in your energy vehicle that you are understanding that all this solid stuff isn’t just solid energy fields and that you are the master or Mistress of this Divine machine that you can gift and that it’s your duty as an awakened being to use everything that’s one of the things in country you use everything rather than refuse or deny everything is money for the other spiritual part of chosen to dissociate in order to be able to develop spiritual nectar but time to use all of it if I do the Alchemy does the Alchemy of all that with pure gold by and my sense of it just touching everything with the heart with the vibration and that’s goddess and the time you know either as a device if you like can be used for for power or it can be used for love and another goddess is all love because that is the only eligible because yeah that was the most Exquisite beautiful Treatise on Tantra that I feel like I’ve ever heard and well it’s a it’s spellbinding and I feel that I just blessed blessed to hear these these words be spoken and by you and and I’m curious if you would like to guide us through what your creative Works have been I know you’ve you’ve you’ve got too many directions since the book was released but I’m curious what do you recommend people start to discover beyond the book that that you feel most proud of and and thank you yes well you know I do see the whole thing at the adjoining and I I I came in as a bikini but I didn’t really know myself and I spent the first part of my life and I think it’s natural for beings to do that to spend the first part of their life but then who am I trying to know oneself and then that way you differentiate your paws from what has been necessarily conventionally and you you you choose this especially if you’re a person just naturally go to the beat of everybody else and you know I know. Keeney is now have been their name is being taken before I kind of embodiment within but you know what they represent in essence is in at the embodiment of a feminine wisdom principal they are archetypes of wisdom wisdom which comes at you naked because it is naked it butt naked truth it’s naked just radiating blessed through every pore and it’s disruptive because it passed away all the things that you because I think you relied on and all those artifice is an old as he go dramas she just Trampled Under Foot and lost and she’s drunk on the blesiv share spontaneous being yeah in the other part of my life before I discovered Tantra and the reflection that I came in just trying to see who am I and in that I said who am I and how do I fit into the culture that I find myself in and it’s my own self and what other projections of others and how am I seeing and how do I see myself and all these things I was bringing into my experience of and I found the technique of collage and that was when I was doing my thesis of surrealist artists map sons did a number of collage books using old engraving and in those books he put together the Engravings to create seamless new world but they were very Fantastical you know people had wings and snake came out between the Pavements and the real encounters happen but now look like they were meant to be like that all the time but he’s instructed them and you couldn’t see where they looked. Together they were a new world and I said I thought you could kind of see make it look like it’s not. But it’s actually fuse into a new reality and you can also really joke people’s perceptions by bringing together the things they wouldn’t normally associate together but by the juxtaposition you to create this what they call it in there so am I use those those tools of collage and use the loss of images of myself had my own photo taken and put myself in that so that I could be both see the Muse and the one I mean the object of somebody else’s view but with photographic and then I also made three dimensional objects and I use those cool things in a lot of pieces life cost of myself my own head button and then like us about the people that was similar to using photographic call out your photos Honda back in 73 I had an exhibition code opening which was all about food and the roster so I’m bringing together you know that the body of woman with the whole idea of the table together in that and it was very shocking to people dressed up I had a whole wedding cake constructed I’m prevented myself as with a van everything adds the wedding cakes at the invitation for the exhibition it was in a being fully engaged in in in the eye and after that I forgot I started it went through for 7 years which was a major I guess you’ll call now to send what was that word wasn’t used at the time but it was me looking at all the skeletons in the cupboard I had a relationship with this filmmaker and we were meant to be doing all these projects together and it never really asked you fully manifest and then we broke up and it was my whole drama with woman’s theater group and my what with them kind of ripping apart their relationship and then I just had to process all this cuz I would say I’m sorry can I ask you something really quick I don’t want to cry or be a gossipmonger anything but I feel that the the Dynamics between creative creative relationships romantic relationships and those the way those play out the Ender play especially if there is I don’t know what that was in your case but I’m I’m really curious to see what wisdom you would have to share about you about using tantric skill sets and tools to harmonize human personality conflicts that’s a big big question a lot to to explore but if you were able if you were confronting these sort of issues were you able to at least somehow raise the vibration you know even if there are deal breakers and things had to be you know closed off but I’m just curious if you were successful at all and applying principles or by Christopher Hills my you know the person who built this property here he did a book called creative conflict which was all about heart-to-heart communication and about people needing to be hard I’m so it’s at whole dynamic between having an exchange with someone else but that person letting you know after you’ve spoken from your heart but they have understood it reflecting it back in their own words to you and that you do that back and forth and it actually creates a whole different kind of feedback loop the misunderstandings that often have a good exercise based on you know Christopher understanding of those principles a yogi eyes pop from being a western scientist animal and he was all these things wrapped together but that was a very good example of principles into the relationship Dynamic but for myself you know that it’s been so many different relationships and even oceans and you know how many dimensions the last to it and each one I’ve had a few major relationships in my life apart from many other relationship but as a few major ones you know that had bad that even a beauty and then Gloria and the agony and you know all of that and I always say there’s no such thing as my student so I like to think we’re all students protection is setting in the area relationship dynamic especially going to the mat the male-female dynamic at this particular time on the planet is in such a challenge in at the rest so many areas that go across because she knows you think of just love and attraction and vibration if you like you know that conventional I’m just you know that Dynamic the spice of life and energy vibrations which you know I make everything so complex and setting it this time the whole sexual identity is something that so you know I’m in the midst for what it’s going to be the next evolutionary stage of how we’re going to be able to manage male-female dynamic in a new way and of course you know the true Keys the Contra do do hold those keys because it is a true and which ones have it if you are able to hold that Crucible and a gaining and it didn’t. Do you have the real chance to be able to see the Divine in each other and bring the Divine fully into that invaded relationship and that you know it’s just the the Beauty and the glory and the end of the immortal France and get moving into our discontent touched any magical ways but at the moment I’m playing a lot of challenging in our relationship not only to each other but to a whole The Crucible of plant it up and down with her that you know that the interpersonal has to also be expanded I believe attitude tantrica to include the whole interaction with all of our natural world at this point and really bringing that into every meditation and interaction really because we can’t afford to lie if that helps eco-warrior and was all about planting gardens and saving trees and I still am now but I feel like what I’ve added to that with Tantra is just a ever-deepening reverence for creation and for the Divine the astral the Earthly Plains all the things we often take for granted I just want to be in that state of reverence and awe that I think most people achieve that when they go into the Great Outdoors and then go hiking or skiing they they have a tantric sort of shocked if acacian of there at least their parts of their system get woken up an activated unfortunately it doesn’t seem to be enough to make them into real hardcore activists a lot of the times but I feel like the there is an ecological agenda that is very transparent and very intrinsic to the path that that romance with with the life-giving fertility of this divine feminine and if you know a lot of people experience very direct communion with the wisdom intelligence and directives of Gaia through this practice so do you want to talk a bit about that kind of revelatory ecological revolution of Tantra if you will be glory after the sexual Revolution and I would save the kind of a cool resonance that I’ve I’ve told condemned presentation to some of her because I really believe especially in the cold vibration that she said we’ve got to start treating the Earth like a lover not like a mother and it when you treat her like a mother it’s you expect the mother to get unconditionally do everything for you and you don’t have to give anything back but if you treat it like a lover than you you know show that you have to give love to that lava and it says to a slow and so that’s an important shift and I think that’s a good thing to bear in mind and I had one time when I was in my twenties and experience with some strange object did Johnny and in that time I had what I still feel program the most orgasmic experience that I had when I had it I was just lying back on this massage table I wasn’t touching myself but I was having these orgasm just passed through my whole body and what I was feeling at the time I felt like I was body of the Earth has style and the every single every single of an insect’s wing and the slithering of the body of a snake and the rustling of leaves everyone going through my whole being beautifully spoken and who could not want to experience that who doesn’t anybody out there not enjoy orgasm it’s a very small number and to the to think that it can become such a flow state of being that level of Sensitivity I kind of almost feel like what most people are striving for when it when they’re trying to get off you know whatever gender or sex they may be is there their they’re basically trying to use friction sex or some sort of high-intensity friction contact in order to kind of chisel or sandblast or break through all this plaque that separating their nervous system and their chakra system from the cosmic Bliss that is a constant wave of orgasmic energy so the more you dissolve that plaque through right action through dharmik practice and purification of all kinds that are very well enumerated in the tatras you know an in yogic texts and Vedic texts there’s a path way to clean your stylus and get more of that orgasmic slow going and it’s definitely so abundant and not so scarce like everything else that we’ve been tricked about as far as the scarcity mindset vs. the abundance mindset so that’s just a follow-up that’s from me and and now that we’re coming to a close on time do you want to talk about some of the anymore highlights from your creative works that people should be looking for then about what’s what’s the current and future of an exorcism it was called and said some the book that I put out and that was trying to look at all these psychological States and and who am I and is that I could dance we both kind of psycho and then I come out at the house and then I have discovered time trip by this point and then I meet Nick Douglas as I say and then we went on to do another College book called man the next to see which was just a celebration of coming out of the confines of this black and white house and all the Western Heritage Inn in the Himalayas and just everything is one century psycho-spiritual play of of everything the profaned the sacred oil mixed together and it was a it was just we were enjoying and I wish I knew how to do, what a wonderful tool it was expecting this and that was that serious and then at the same time we did the secret dakini Oracle which was the 64 card Oracle system in systems put that out and that’s being around working since then then I went to to the Caribbean I was there for 15 years at I-10 and time got a long story short I realized I was there because of the embedded energy of the Arawak Indians whooping for alcohol Caribbean free Columbus and the Magical and pure kind of society who had been swept under the carpet of history and speaking to me and so I firmly believe that the indigenous way of life is the way of creating sustainability for the planet if we can start to embrace him understand that engage instead of in a friend that to the side as the Civilization V how to be in tune with the spirit and all things so that was my home to that way of life but I did for my portraits and they are like Indians in my time that and then I came back to America in 94 after I was I was here before that New York I was working on my phone from about the Arawaks and I finish that and then it was then that I met Christopher Hills and came here and then for the time here I am held a lot of events dr. Christopher past but she did the 97 to bring in the goddess energy and I still would like you to describe them when we talk to them right to coming on on on the car that you were interested in the way of using the energy that is that in these events and we’re all these awful waves so all that happening and I still while we can offer them to the goddess and then she can give her grace to us and doing for several years he has many people from the whole graveyard from performance thoughts and in the area bringing them in and having people get their offerings to Spotify and then one. I made the 64 that key Miracle which isn’t Eeveelution of the nlra but this time each of the energy that he needs and I have 64 Oracle and I hope to do a nap cuz if it can meet chat father and that is like a temple for the goddess and an Oracle phone just working on more three-dimensional pieces the game and coming back into a focus of customizing they oughta game having reached out to all the Divine archetypes imma come back into a more personal expression and now that I’m done now I just want to see you on tour with the museum installation with all this I’m not the biggest art Aficionado in the world but of course I’ve I’ve been a fan of Alex Grey and H R Giger and what I after this conversation I feel like I got a lot of catching up to do on on what you put out that I wasn’t aware of and I’m really going to enjoy it so it is a sort of a sumtur got some guidance that you could provide to say hey go and you know you can go to your website and in and just order purchase what you have or their YouTube videos or any other ways to access your go to website since I mean Menards.com has a broad spectrum of the word that I’ve been talking about and then 64 the numbers that Kenny. Org is where you can go to consult the Oracle and but also that the gallery of the images of the Thai King is there and then the Blue Lotus pod. Com which is rstudio site which has some videos and Son photography so those are few things that you can look at to start with and I haven’t all page on Facebook too with how about Instagram of you if you got on that platform say it took me a while because I just have so many projects and engagements of all kinds I didn’t want to be distracted by something that was another no platform of that nature however I am totally convinced now that it is one of the most strategic leverage points for anybody with the message or Consciousness that can create visual content it’s amazing I just thought of something I wanted to say and it was about relationship and resolution from a perspective that we were talking about mentioning my exorcism though that thing about The Break-Up and processing of the relationship and that’s what spurred our conversation about relationship with my partner at the time and next month or beginning of next month I’m going over to the UK to go to a conference and speak that that’s about this film makeup Peter Whitehead and over the last few years we can get back together in the sensitive film that we did at the time which type of being shown all those years and I was able to show that the Hayward Gallery in London and oh so I’m speaking at the conference about him because it’s a whole retrospect if they take him to the archives at this University and son a solution of some quite powerful can you describe it at all or just footage that we shot at the same time I did all these photographs that became the basis of the footage of myself and my girlfriend and Peter Shaw hit in this old derelict mansion house could love and it’s all just showing it Roar has it came out to the time off to all these years after 1969 that was shot and I guess this unit many takes but it’s like in this time the space that it’s like a magical experience that’s amazing so is there any hope that we will get this that’ll get to see a bigger audience or what do you have his first plants with that now is scheduled to reach a larger audience is a documentary that just being made of me he was young filmmaker Cove it started walking on it in 2012 when I was over in the UK I’m getting a tour at the gallery about my work and he was excited and said, I shouldn’t interfere with you and that interview grew into the documentary what she’s dressed now completed and it’s all of my early walk treat antra I’m in London and a relationship with a woman that hole. And it’s called Penny Slinger Out of the Shadows quite a good release coming up shortly support and Discovery and in the promotion and I’m definitely want to continue to explore in and talk with you about how to support the mission that that was laid out and and I feel like someday I will somebody will be calling me and asking me what was the story behind what brought me to interview and people like you if this is my contribution to the world and there’s just an ongoing interest and it’s so interesting to see to get this background and to have to really just go on a sort of a Time a Time trip into these you know these different points in in your creative history and really if I could just ask you a couple more questions before we before we call it a night do you have a couple more minutes being this kind of bridge through these was one of the things to me that’s very important in the manifestation of my life’s Mission if you like is to be able to be active and relevant at this time in my life when I am old and that the wisdom of the wise woman knows he didn’t pack anything back into society and that’s what he need so much to be able to swear I act now I’m not wanting to be Destin historical figure but I am for the active right now I love that thank you so much yeah that’s I’m so thrilled again that we’re having this conversation and I feel like the the need is is greater than ever to access the wisdom of the elders going back yuno thousands of years and the question I actually want to ask you who really is like the what the let’s see the shocked it country code is the goddess worshiping country cuz whether they would be considered on the left hand path of the right hand path or generally I think more realistically it was a it was a sort of he was ambidextrous it was an ambidextrous way to be in in in the shock to Tantra schools where you were dabbling we’re not doubling but really actually working consciously with Desire with with Will with your will and also with the Divine elements but hopefully with Integrity to Lenny’s trainings you would be in service to add a v or in the process so that you would be sort of putting yourself to work for the Divine will and getting your commission of the small things that your small mind actually wants in this small slice of the universe or the universe and if I if I simplify what the essence of the positive empowered healing Reverend Liberatore nature of of the more feminist Tantra is about purification of those parasites of the heart that you mention you know earlier and if if that was the intention back then against the forces that Humanity was up against at that time that they warned us the forces are going to get worse it’s the Kali Yuga World age and we’re going to be inundated with these negative entities once again the technology that you were exploring and has continued to explore and her still as you said ready to bring to the present moment at this time of absolute sexual Madness more than ever through porn the the question is it took me awhile to get to it but how do you advise the world now about the need for Tantra what are your what are your words of wisdom and take as much time as is you have pleased to give us some guidance now Where Do We Begin what do we focus on and prioritize if we have limited attention spans you know yeah please and that was about a left hand or right hand Tantra and as far as I’m concerned they only real difference in a kind of pacification is that the right hand is to do with meditative Union with say the daikini and the right left hand is to do with actually taking an inverted Shakti to realize that Union but it’s both to do with the inner Union with the Divine being and then the interesting cuz I had it seems so simple but I had a revelation between like tantric meditation and the meditation of other religious forms is you’re not sublimating that energy that section energy you actually using that but what the right hand while you’re using it but with this entire no. Can you actually making love with the internal. Kini so it’s it’s using everything rather than denying everything so I just really wanted to address that because when you say to balancing photos of course you know the play is at the Contra dealer is that Tina between the outer and inner and other call BNI it within the soccer not the gross body that’s why it’s called the second body the energy body where that is you know that that in a erotic channel of energy where in at the Statue of Santa up to the crown and it’s all one energy and I said that they that the blessed is when you envision and experience the union of Shiva and Shakti in the crown chakra meaning like completely in their territory around but fillet in the cellular matrix honey and milk into the Lotus at the hot and got us that and that is The Crucible and that’s if the dentist thing to focus on in the inner plane that’s it because it’s about the dog and dangerous about the dog that hot ass between me and have a claim and it’s true that you know list for meditation that you can stop with the chief Zach time does all the time male body vibrates but we’re actually wonderful wave energy that you are manifesting it’s that I want it that you’re tuning into it with the gift-giving wow so the right-hand and left-hand path are not antagonistic that’s an illusion make the pads Chrysler make an ex or something in a beautiful dress right as bad as it spirals as it should beautiful thank you for that clarification I think that’s going to help a lot of people yeah so so I’m dressing and red and white snake spider and around but you know the contract principle is to get that energy than going into the central Channel which just you know is this I’m at wave of infinity no bottomless and topless photos of spiraling into that Central Channel yes yes thank you so much it’s as beautiful as it’s no wonder that your visual artist because you’re you creating a beautiful art form in the Maginot just through the word so and yeah thank you for that I am very excited to see what you continue to develop and and I definitely feel like his you’re saying it’s if it’s if the wisdom that you’ve been carrying is not percolating through the generations the way that it it we would hope for it to then I want to be stepping up as somebody who who really makes effort to connect people who are interested in erotica and neurotic media and the wisdom teachings that that you you share to be able to access them so hopefully this is one small step in that direction with doing this podcast and I’m going to definitely look forward to just catching up in schooling myself in your work yeah any other things you want to share before we go tonight you are sending out many good powerful vibrations to everyone who possibly tunes into this that they fix that part of being that country Quiva of the own Destinies and put themselves in the center of that own mandalas so that they a defect not just cause at the same time of cost aligning to the Divine headlights in the sky but your fulcrum and your guide so that you are at course but your turkey day at effect of the goddesses well, all right good night thank you so much pain he will text you and take care, and click on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple after bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818 to 7515 3 or emo band at Country Park. 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50 Shades of Green with Eco-Domme Goddess Jaime TPP85

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Goddess Jaime pic In this episode I’m blessed to be doing a live in person interview with my new favorite dominatrix. Eco-Domme Goddess Jaime tells all about how she runs a workforce of devoted submissive men through many shades of green ecological service work. She is the quintessential case study of my prayer and thesis contained in my poem 50 Shades of Green Sektual Purmaculture.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin welcome to Township Punk podcast episode number 85 I am here in a beautiful rare opportunity of doing a live interview with SM Dom goddess and we’re going to talk all about her path into this lifestyle and profession and what we can learn and share in terms of from being ecologically accountable with our Sexual Energy and and our financial capital in our sexual Capital so would you please tell us a bit about your glorious past to what you’re doing this a young age I’ve had to maintain every aspect of myself and actually of others and so like I’m as far as like helping out with siblings and younger family members and like older family and I’m things like that I had to do that and then I was kind of in the workforce pretty young so I’ve always had a really good work ethic I’m really outdoorsy I like to do kayaking and canoeing I like to work in the garden a lot I like to you know train animals that’s one of the things that I’ve been doing I’ve been doing that since I was really young I’m relatively self-taught but I’ve also gone to some seminars and I also meant and having a service animal for 8 years so I had to deal with a lot of trainers they teach you how to keep things going so I’m kind of going all over the place but all of these things kind of add until like having to have a really structured life and then everything being from the time that I was young from the time that I was about fifteen so now we’re talkin about 10 to 23 so since then ice from 18223 I started on making and distributing merchandise for touring bands I started making you know patches pins like I started drawing t-shirt designs but mainly I would have other people do it and then I was working with my friends parents t-shirt like screen printing company and I would get a pretty good discount and I would sell them and I would get to distribute them because the fact that you know a lot of times these bands didn’t make that much money and they don’t want to pay somebody to then I’ll go on the road with them and to do these things and it’s it is really cut a lot of Corners so I was doing that and then I was kind of having to live a really am a really sporadic but also really really structured life every morning I had to wake up you know 5 a.m. and every night I went to bed at a certain time it wasn’t it was always relatively late it was always relatively like wild I wanted to get everything out of my system like when I was younger I didn’t really do all that much partying or anything like that I still don’t to this day I just wanted to kind of like spread the love with people and like Distributing music I wanted to distribute not distributed animals but like you know that well-behaved well-mannered animals and I wanted to distribute good plans and I wanted to distribute all the things that you know I’ve been telling you about I feel like that’s kind of my thing I don’t have one specific thing I like to do a bunch of things as far as like the whole damn thing I did not start having traditional sex I didn’t lose my virginity until I was 20 years old so I I had to find you know like other ways I was always like really creative and my personality has always been like you know a go-getter I’ve always been I wouldn’t say I’m more I’m more observant I wouldn’t say that I’m soft-spoken but I’m definitely more observant and I like to watch and see what’s going on and see now then I’ll let you know open up and then I’ll talk in the night you know what kind of take control of the situation if need be as far as like my sexuality I’ve been with women I’ve been with men and long-term relationships with the women I am feminine and I’ve been with other feminine women but I have been the one that you know quote unquote wears the pants not to enforce like gender roles but I’ve been the one that’s kind of you know tended to things and has been the more nurturing more like I guess you could say Mommy and she won and you know did you you have a doctor’s appointment today so you might want to get up or you know you didn’t really eat anything today or are you know things like that and I wouldn’t necessarily say like discipline but I’m there have been some relationships where I’ve been and where it has called for it because I’ve been in traditional relationships and non-traditional relationships with man with women I I would say I wouldn’t say that I identify as any of the specific on sexuality two sides like demi sexual because I like to get to know a person first I like to see what you know going on first before I got with somebody but I do the same thing as far as my dom sub relationships as well so I really hope I answered your question amazing and so much Exquisite value that you bring to this world and that just flows so I feel like saying naturally into what you’re doing now with sub so do you want to talk about how are you apply some of your ethics and values and training and skill sets to your lifestyle and professional or just professional so yeah it’s kind of a necessity if you’re the kind of person that I am you know really busy person a really you know nurturing person or really you know dominant person a really you know just for definitely for a person like me a sentence in the city I had high appointment at 6 he said we talked about ways that you well I guess I’ll back up a little bit and see my ethics like my code of ethics leaving my ethics like the things that I nature into community and being benevolent nurturing just your environment in your community to you that I have met you know via FetLife a lot of people that I’ve met via you know advertising sites a lot of the people that I’ve met you know in person in an Indian I like Spanish balls and stuff like that they come from these homes where they aren’t able to tell their significant others or maybe they don’t even have significant others but they don’t have anybody that they have been able to experience these things with and they they haven’t necessarily gotten too or they gone to do like little bits and pieces and everything that they know they have experience through you know porn and a lot of the times I come in and I’ll meet them and they all think that you know it’s going to be all you know 100% you know me having them face it or me facing them and you know me doing like me facing them and me being mean to them and you know things like that and you know there is some things that you know are helpful like that but I’m also going to have you or I would rather preferably iodide 100% prefer to have you go ahead and do things that you can do at home do things that are going to be more realistic and do things that are going to help you know make the world a little bit I feel like if I can teach you how to plant things or if I can teach you how to do things that your wife has been asking you to do forever that little honey do list with the whip at the end of it you know I would have them sometimes you know go to parks and stuff cuz they always have you know sometimes sometimes are well-maintained but sometimes they’re not on sometimes they have areas that could use improvements and sometimes I will do you know a little bit of more tricky things like we’ll go into abandoned houses and stuffing and go there and sometimes it’ll sleepover into someone’s you know like a little patch in front of their phone law and then we’ll just do a little public games like that and sometimes I’ll have them I got into about a year-and-a-half ago cuz I realize that my neighborhood has a considerable amount of dog poop in it so I started going around and picking it up and so I realized that it’s always really helpful and there’s a lot of areas that people just playing abandon them and I can’t do it alone and it’s something that I’m a little bit I’m in pretty passionate about it not so you know it sounds kind of weird but I’m pretty passionate about it because it’s a lot of diseases that dogs can get. they got through fecal material and someone that and that’s not something that landscapers you know send to you so I’ll have my submissives go ahead and do that and then you know obviously if they’re doing it for random dogs they’re going to feel more inclined to do it at home you know go ahead and take off their dogs poop in their yard and that’s going to be a good treat for their wife and maybe after you did that and you did do you know the dishes because you’ve been doing them in panties twice a week my house you’ll feel you’ll your wife won’t you know maybe she’ll go ahead and let you rub her feet or something and give you a little treat that she knows will really mean a lot to you you know what I mean that’s what a couple of these people have said this but I mean on you and have better results today what’s up with their wife in like a room with a lady that’s not a hundred not necessarily invested in it to me and be a little bit kinky and this is exactly what I have been praying for and what I’ve witnessed only in the smallest amount so far so do you know other Doms who are have similar paths I mean is this a very radical new thing or is it a well-established are you feeling like your community with this and your dumb friend World femdom world unfortunately no cuz I mean okay the thing is that I told you you were a little bit a little bit mild like I I feel like none of the Dom that I know I only know a few I know like you know five or six in the area and we all do completely different things I think that I do a little bit of everything because you know most of the things that my dom friends have told me are things that I’ve done or things that you know I I I do but I’m going to look interested in but not things that are going to the mean things I do you know so I don’t I don’t know any aunt but I mean I’ll have somebody like walking a dog walking you know a dog at you know it’s 3 in the morning pretty much feminized you know and say you know with a trench coat and we obviously and make sure that proper we miss you too we take proper precautions but I do things that a lot of people are a little bit too timid to and I mean you know there’s a lot of ways to make sure that you don’t get in trouble you go to areas that you you know that there’s not going to be anybody you go to places where people can look at you but aren’t going to like the bath area apartment complexes and just places where are you now you feel as if you’re going to be you know Ray safe but on the edge of taboo you know just saying yeah stealth actions right operation stealth kink well well this is I’m just going to take a breath to absorb all this amazing hopeful information and it’s just music to my ears so please tell us more about your passion for ever as much as you care to share other like Visions like you would have a few let’s see you had a full Army and all some of the richest man in the world have the most powerful man in the world politically socially right and they would became your clients I know Downs with some of the most world famous male clients on the planet and its know right but it’s like anywhere you turn you’ll find jobs that have some high-end clientele even if it’s just local judges cops CEO those lawyers all of the men with power in the system want to get beat out of them by their other friends on mistress or goddess are both so let’s say you had a lot of power in a lot of money through these men what would you build with the money that was going into your pocket and what would you build with their labor and their skills and expertise in and they’re all of their Capital that they will be delightfully surrendering to your command wow well if I was on if I were to have an opportunity like that that would be amazing that would be you know that’d be pretty cool but I would probably use it I would use it to make a dual Center for service animals to be trained and taken care of as well as and Farm are we both I would love it if I were able to incorporate a way for the four women to be able to like battered women to be able to have like jobs and little you know side project picking and helping out there and I would also have you know like Subs do it obviously that would be more of a vanilla thing where they wouldn’t be enough or they wouldn’t be where they wouldn’t be in a completely finalized in last we were doing do you know some work at night some work at night could be being done just some water and some you know tightening off but for the most part it would be gopher Patrol to write a snack bar for all of the nocturnal Critters because you’re asleep and if you don’t you don’t have a dog or something someone cats and dogs out there regarding the garden if you had Subs in shifts in whatever feminized outfits they want to be in you know within some fun concealment to the public then you could have Garden Patrol substrate they are the dogs with the subs would watch them but this guy was probably wouldn’t have liked the and capabilities the train them but they would do the things like you know walking them and exercising them and securing the perimeter of a temple so that’s everybody’s kind of an everybody kind of keeps ingredients as much as possible kind of green business that couldn’t be a form of employment for women and also be something that the subs are volunteering or say they could be considered in turn in a business they would also be in charge of the subs would have to do a lot of like networking I make things like this little crotch here I’m going to explain it the best that I can it’s about fingerling and it is a circular tube it’s made out of wood and it’s the perfect size to take one small little toke out of for two on I want to know hold is either a one hitter or you could stop your J in there if you’re gay or your blond or whatever guess small because I fit in there and that’s something that I’ve made and usually I know I stand them down they paint them and I do everything and then I saw them for like $5 and they would be in charge of like you know marketing for those and then I would also have like Mike Raines and stuff and I would have them do you know pretty much how I look a little second job and then they would also have to do you like the attending to the sub outside I’ll be helping with that because that’s something that I genuinely loved and that brings me peace but I would obviously be lording over them directly over the night when well actually not buckle down so have you had to deal with the politics of Subs interacting together on a job site what’s a aura has session site how do you keep them check how do you keep a cooperating what I have and it was intense it was on it was actually a session that I was having with a friend and with a person that was a new paid client and the new paid client wanted to earn the right to have a session with me and so I had to I was in we were in a public park at nice we were in like the depths of it where I know that nobody we patrolling and nobody realizes Park in the neighborhood that I’m you know if I know you’re with and we were just I brought like my little bag of tricks with us and and we were just kind of like going through the motions we were doing a bunch of different tasks and we had him you know doing a bunch of things and we were working you know together and me and obviously I was like in charge but me and the other guy my sub friends my personal sub was working we’re working together around with against answer one okay so how do you manage these politics between the male Subs to the have a hierarchy of a chain of command how do you keep them in line with each other and especially if you’re not always watching them out of you make sure they stay in a proper subordination to your chain well my personal said he knows that he is able to do certain things you know like he doesn’t have to maintain eye contact like that every single time that he is like talking but he still knows he has to address me a certain way like he knows like you know he knows certain things but he also knows that he’s able to be I wouldn’t say last but it’s able to be more of himself whereas the other one is under constant observation like at all times and you know what I mean with the rank right you know so they’ll they’ll respond well to the orders given through your intermediary or if you think of it like a military kind of chain of command and the private is going to salute a superior officer is in that kind of thing children animals want your children here and lay down a man like from the time that we’re young to the time they were old and then animals also most animals have some sort of pecking order any sort of mammals and you can really make an art form out of that with being human because we can be don’t be very fair and just and base it on Merit and eldership and wisdom and skill sets and not just like on you know who is the Bloodlines or what or just the dominant family or something we can be more we can choose to be a Gala Therrien and distribute power and influence the guy I like to wear meritocracy you know if you earn it then you can be the one with that Authority but then people could also you know Mutiny if you’re being undressed and that’s kind of part of it too but yeah if you have a few or a fair ruler of your matriarchal tribe of submissive men who are aspiring to wood would they Inspire to be to give them options to to grow or if people say you had more than you do now it’s so you had like hundreds of men just coming to your doorstep at the temple wanting to be initiated into prove themselves and get to the boot camp and and then aspire to be a Master Chef for a Master Gardener Master dog trainer master masseuse would you kind of go to the university if so as to allow them to rise rise the ranks so there’s also the question of politics amongst other Doms and competition and have you have you found that there’s like a bit of both out there more or less than the other in the in the past you know for years I would say I haven’t had any sort of like ill feelings towards or any sort of you know how bad I haven’t felt any sort of bad vibes from either I haven’t felt really like I was in any sort of competition because I am a completely different Dom then all the other Doms I feel like every you know if somebody is coming to me you’re coming to me because you’re looking for a certain experience they’re coming to me because you’re looking for a certain look they’re coming to me because they’re looking for a certain everything and if someone when someone else they’re going because they’re looking for that you don’t need me anymore so I haven’t felt like I’ve been dealing with anything like that you don’t necessarily I don’t to say you don’t you don’t buy into it or you doing you’re not if you are not a slave to the fashion sort of status quo of being a dumb right you new dress how you want to dress and they don’t get to do while you up to their taste or how do you do all that dress code like every single day I wear dresses dresses dresses dresses I wake up and dresses I go to bed and dresses dresses dresses I just dresses so I pretty much where that all the time and you know sometimes I might be feeling like wearing something you know something a little bit spiffy but for the most part I just where you know that and then if it’s like a foot fetish session I like to obviously like I like to do things that are going to enhance the experience so I will ask you if you have a preference in like nail color if you have a favorite color if you have this if you have is at but as far as like how I’m going to do my hair or I’m going to do my you know I don’t try to have leg you know long block Talons and like a super sexy like latex you know bodysuit or anything like that and let you know I mean I just like to be myself and just you know get her done right on and they they so you probably have filtered out do you have you had to filter out a lot of stubs that were not really serious about the lifestyle we’re just trying to get laid or trying to be creepy or whatever belotero I would say that is the majority of the people that I meet that say they’d like to be Subs because they watch Fifty Shades of Grey and then they things oh it’s going to be all on you know it’s going to be all this and all that like she just going to slap me around a little bit and maybe choke me while she rides me and you know there’s going to be all kinds of like you know things like that and they’re just looking at you know a little bit of porn and then they think that it’s going to be that experience and it’s really not I’ve had to filter out a lot of flakes because they will literally ask me things like that I like okay well so am I going to be able to do this and I going to be able to do that and so I can look those are not the right doesn’t that’s not exactly what this says I’m not accommodating you your, dating me and the primer for being a sub annual and here it is and if you read it and come back you might have a chance to be rescreen within 30 days but you really don’t have a clue you know if they mostly just don’t have a clue or sitting there are du Fafa don’t find ones who were really skilled well trained and you know I don’t want to see devious because that’s where all the tailed deviousness but they’re surreptitiously or dishonest or trying to cheat and break the rules so I can know the rules they know they know better and they break the rules cuz they think they can get away with it yeah they just kind of want to see a woman and naked which obviously I mean I don’t blame them but I do blame them for you know using like false pretense so a lot of times that would be the situation but I can let you know I can tell that came out in the early 90s Navy ladies so powerful to me when I re-read the lyrics recently that song I had the tape you know a cassette tape and media safer sex AIDS awareness in kind of Public Service pop track you know it was pretty interesting unique thing to do with that but I appreciate it at the time and I appreciate it now because I found recently that there’s a sign that says you know a man is I I don’t remember exact time going to court exactly perfect but it’s basically like a man sees a young woman in tight jeans and you know want some and that’s natural but it’s the scheming that’s biological but it’s the scheming that’s diabolical so acknowledging that it’s natural for men to be aroused by adult mature feminine beauty and bodies and and Radiance but it’s it becomes evil and wrong and twisted when it’s that buy let their the two diabolical scheming you know the not honoring the beauty or worshiping it but manipulating a woman’s vulnerabilities to get some sort of unwanted access so yeah so I appreciate your time so much for sharing this really it’s such a breath of fresh air and I feel like I’m on a mission now to support and B you know I guess I should say for myself I’m not really I’m kind of off the Spectrum off the scale of Dom or sub I really I’m a goddess worshipper and and I am in service to the Goddess Delivers the capital G goddess and there’s two lowercase G goddess and I’m in Devotion to the to the divine feminine and and I I try to treat all or I do my best to treat all manifestations in human form with respect and really be in service to the the revolution of a matriarchy I would say you know matriarchal EcoBoost life you know honoring the Yoni honoring the womb and knowing that you know if there’s a a sacred wisdom of mystery infinite enchantment in the the female human form and it should be a no-brainer to be completely Enchanted and then throw love and willing to be in service but things are obviously we’re out of balance so you’re on the front lines of retraining the male population to be improper prostration you know prayerful devotional meditative piano worship of of the female form so do you are their sacred places that you like to go to me not to stand by name or anything but do you coach charged up and nature in the in the wilderness do you go to any kind of spiritual places temples are other ways to kind of get steeped in in ceremonial goddess ritual type of energy or do you just going to draw down. You know if your own vessel well I do have places that I like to go and meditate and I do have places that I like to dance go and eat do yoga and that is where I that’s how I like to recharge just natural and on a couple poses and I’ve been doing these things for you know a little while I have a good five or six places actually but you know to in specifics and especially great because one is actually a hike so once you get to the top it’s just a really nice to be able to just like relax and just like celebrate the fact that you did it and you don’t even know it’s like it’s a really lucky or in the experience awesome and thank you for sharing that in that leads me to another question which is you plant teachers psychedelic sacred plant medicines play a role in your your Evolution and in your Consciousness is all right so deep would you be comfortable sharing that whatever Revelations are epiphanies that you had through the medicines that have given you guidance on your path I I feel like I smoke marijuana and I smoked it for a lot of reasons for medicinal for like therapeutic reasons I like the feeling that it gives me towards everything I like the fact that it helps me I feel I’m not one of the people that smoke I smoke sativa which means the kind of weed that makes you feel really like you know energized than you know not you don’t get the couch lock indicas in the couch so in the couch so I guess I’ll smoke a little bit and it tonight but for the most part even at night I do smoke indica and I’ll go ahead and I’ll get like a whole bunch of planting done or I’ll go ahead and I’ll call up one of my subs and after work will all tell them while I’m at work to meet me after work so that we can go ahead and trim some of the body that we can go ahead and you know rip off some of the Dead stalks of some of the aloe in the space that I’m renting to grow things out of there like you know that we can go ahead and do some weeding or we can you know if we can separate some of the stocks that have a lot of seeds and some of my butt implants and we can do things like that and they’re learning things but they never imagined themselves doing but yeah and then I will also I will do I Ayahuasca sometimes and DMT I’ve done a couple times BMT if I don’t know if it wasn’t necessarily the best Bosch or what but I didn’t really learn all that much I mean I felt like it just reminded me that life is not always what you make it and that perception is everything kind of you know what I mean but you never know like looking at somebody like you really just never know what’s going on before doing DMT which obviously I researched a beforehand that I you know I made sure that I did get it from like a reputable source and stuff like that which you know makes me believe that I must have been a good batch but and then supposed to be the same you know it supposed to be relatively the same as ayahuasca so with those you know they were just cool experiences and it was just about perception and then with shrooms. Just taught me each time it’s kind of taught me a different time this kind of caught me a different thing like I I went through the experience of being born one time so for at least a good I would say for at least a couple of months I was just the way better person for at least a couple of months was just really sorry I was really loving and happy and really open to a lot more than I had been open to and that’s one thing that’s a recurring theme when I do shrooms. Definitely more open and more accepting and that could be a little bit dangerous because I’m already a very like open really open-minded person I don’t necessarily drink and I mean all I have a I have to eat gluten-free so I have to drink gluten-free so I mainly have like spiders and stuff like that but I don’t really like spiders so I’ll have to search out of gluten free beer so I would say I’ve had like probably like 30 beers this year I love gluten free beer by your home brew kit right now research herbal Brewing which I know some experts in and start to hook it up right when it be nice to have a gluten-free beer bar that your subs built and maintained and tended did you know and I haven’t checked it has to be gluten-free because it’s for dietary and after snootiness dear friend who was the first to tell me about how hops were actually used as a sedative to try to desexualize and Lady harada size the experience of inebriation to alcohol because the pagans were originally in parts of Europe making herbal for men that were alcoholic beverages forms of beer you know that would that would actually enhance the right a cavity she acts and they were stimulants and provide arousal through you know medicinal herbal effects and actions and in order for the priests to clamp down on you know sexually liberated Behavior group or Jurassic Behavior they use hops of the conspiracy to him do what they thought would be impotence and certainly a more sedative effect on the nervous system that would kind of reduce Consciousness and reduce sexual activity so when you drink a lot you got like a whiskeydick The Hop specifically would would make it more inhibitif to arousal and functioning sexual functioning so it’s interesting there’s a whole you know decolonizing alcoholic beverages kind of movement and it’s so cool that you’re in the urgency because I love beer to have a friend that makes a terrible bruise and it’s just so much better with all organic ingredients in homemade and made with love and you know homegrown herbs and stuff so amazing Ginger one of them was called a it was a warrior Brewing it had a kind of a divorce in bitters there was I can’t remember I can’t remember the the list of ingredients but it was all really potent stuff and just different herbal effects like the effect of bitters in a beer is a totally Exquisite knew it was amazing it a bunch of different percentage of the are these beers they think they can be pretty hard yeah I member I mean I don’t know if they were testing but I don’t know exactly mean for me yeah they think they were it looked like an IPA and IPA yeah I don’t know it was still kind of home scale so I don’t think it went through all the lab testing all that stuff but it was I used to never had like a Stone Stone IPA or anything like that is it like one time I made cider like it was like Mad Dog 20/20 but worse and it was homemade cherry cider and it was like a lethal you know you can just burning through your system but it got you wasted but yeah anyway that I digress into until young and old memories but I think it’s important to say actually in this you know this context that alcohol is forbidden in a lot of BDSM establishments and sort of play zones and then I definitely feel like it should be used in moderation if at all in any it is certainly would have any kind of dangerous activity happening but I’ve seen it be you know used in mature and responsible manner but I think people if it’s home-brewed people have more respect specially if they make it themselves they don’t they don’t turn into monsters usually if they’re in the path of being close to Nature you know but yeah so you can you probably would have your own ganja Farm to huh I would I would I mean I would probably mainly grow for personal usage ganja Garden like a whole bunch of different strains and just now the laugh a little this is great so I think we covered a lot do you want to say do you have an Amazon wish list to you or you going to put that together if you don’t have one yet I know I should have make an Amazon wish list yeah if you you know just curious what what are some things that you that you will be putting on your Amazon wish list for your devotees and your tribute tribute or suggest some face creams and some dog stuff in summer some additives to make like soaps and Tomika like eating a homemade homemade dish soap homemade was it called laundry detergent and homemade hand soap and Salt Lake. Like soap bars and mainly this thing like that little essential oils mulch anklets the kinky Homesteader life stuff because most of what I see on Don’s Amazon wish list is well it’s usually all just shoes and corsets and makeup and things that obviously your business assets you know that it’s like if you have a plumber business you need to have tools and you need to have a truck if you’re a dumb you need to have corsets and boots and all that kind of stuff usually but you’ve got some of everything I need I go to this website I don’t know if I should I plug it or not but it’s a really good website and it has everything and so I have all that stuff and I’m looking for something that I need I have it so it’s just something that I you know just plain ones you know I might as well just throw it out there I guess if I like that’s what it’s for but for the most part I buy like everything that I have to have makeup and stuff this is what I want to congratulate you for his is transcending the Trap of narcissism and self-obsession and just perpetuating the beauty myth and I don’t want to get I don’t want to insult anyone for not having a feminist critique of these things but the seeking to really exhaust like really build up and promote women who are righteously using their power in a ecologically responsible way but yeah this is interesting territory to explore how to instill positive ethics and and I can ecological entrepreneurialism and really we be staying together so if you had some seed packets on your Amazon wishlist what would be so much I will get you to the point where or when I say we I mean the world and all of the magic within and Beyond will get you to have your dream facility Fortress to be able to have land to work and play on in to have your subs be dutiful Guardian Warriors that get Bill to the ranks and what would be some of your favorite crap so I guess that you have planned for your inside okay Temple well I would have I probably have like potatoes and like probably like spinach probably a lot of spinach even though it’s the winter right now it have tomatoes cuz it’s not always going to be winter I would have a plant like aloe and like a lot of LOL cuz that’s good for everybody I thought I could feel like stuffing like it’s good for like a whole bunch of Life personal uses as well but as far as like as far as like an antibacterial so you can use it looks like you know clean like different toys with and stuff like that and it is good for like you know Burns and all sorts of like and I’ll cleaning up your rooms and stuff but I’m a professional so if I’m going to give you a spanking like you know that I can still give you a 10 a degree 10 spanking without you know breaking skin without licking nose and dilating your skin sounds like any other herbs sir veggie surgery screws I like orange I would have and then I would have I will probably have like licorice root I would probably have a lot of ginger I would probably try to grow like probably saying John’s Wort probably a little bit of valerian root I’m not sure how long kava kava takes to grow but I would see about I’m trying to grow some of that I would try to grow I would definitely grow some lavender I would grow on I would just grow I would go a lot of things that’s why they would be so much to me entertain really A Little Flower Patch a little flowers but that’s my favorite favorite favorite like that you know thing awesome that can all be arranged I’ve got just the right people to call I’ve got the cruise already assembled they just need to be trained so would you take on apprentices other Doms to a kind of learn how you roll and are you ready for that level of leadership if you were to have even just someone be like while I want to know how you how you run this you know you just I guess people can obviously contact you and connect with you but it would be great if you you know write an article or or just kind of opportunities there hopefully you’ll be able to share the wisdom in the wealth of the rich is the spiritual riches if this unique dumb style that you have would you do feel like I get that ready for that apprenticeship apprenticeship some Guess Who coming over you know mistress you know XYZ and in their own hierarchy of student and teacher where the student has to get slightly like I said if it was a switch student then you could reprimand then and and Heaven I guess it gets a very complex very fast but well that’s how in the dungeons usually go from being a sub to a switch to a job so that she had the whole cycle have you been a sub or do you switch your last dollar with how do you roll with all that I guess you could find out on FetLife for you on it okay so on that note do you want to share how people can now obtain your services and apply for apprenticeships and all that good stuff my my fella if should be sativa mistress mystery sativa mistress and then my email address is Namaste alt n a m a s t e a l t at gmail.com so I’m pretty reachable from both mediums and I do you know like correspond relatively fast and I was long as I’m not at work or training Manor training animals or you know I’m doing some sort of you know odd job or some sort of something or do you want to feel free to be as broad-based geographically as you want but you know we’ll say Southern California serviceable area or awesome well goddess Jamie thank you so much again for being such a lovely role model and blessing and I hope to help facilitate your visions and dreams have hurricane with my peeps in my self so thank you for listening to the touch upon podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition of sustaining and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or 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Mainstreaming Tantra with Ix-Chel Sandivel TPP84

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Ix-Chel pic In this episode, I’m joined by fellow tantric cultural healing activist/artist/instructor Ix-Chel Sandivel. We explore her personal path of tantric healing and empowerment, her works of cultural healing activism, her unique intensive initiation for women, her recent music video release, and her future vision of touring the world as a tantric stage performer.

We compare notes on our journeys within and beyond the entertainment industry and discuss the potential of mainstreaming tantra through our creative works.

About Ix-Chel:

iX-CheL Sandivel is an intimacy artist & transformational coach. She is passionate about creating safe, expansive and exquisite experiences that allow the human spirit to evolve into new levels of ecstatic awareness, confidence and self love through her art, coaching and psychic intuitive readings. As a Source Tantra Yoga Associate & Certified Advanced Tantra Educator, she leads events for men & women based on Tantra with a contemporary twist. Tantra is a conscious ceremonial lifestyle full of yogic arts, mediations, rituals and techniques. This eastern philosophy allows human beings to increase their intuition, awareness, confidence and connect with their inner most innate truth, wisdom and personal cycles.

A very active child, running became the outlet for her to express her infinitely passionate will, determination, and focus. Nationally ranked in the 10,000 meters, and a former Nike elite sponsored runner, iX-CheL became her own healer to compete again at the elite level, after being injured for four years. To heal she had to gain a deep spiritual awareness of our connection with the emotional body/mind. Now with a profound intuitive understanding of her own feminine emotional body, iX-CheL has been exploring the sacred union between creative life-force energy, conscious rituals, personal and universal cycles, which is spirituality at its depth.

After a traumatic experience in her early twenties iX-CheL learned that having a healthy relationship to her life-force energy based on holistic integrity is one of the most powerful, beautiful and transformational gifts human beings have. Since then she has been studying with the most highly sought after internationals teachers, modern Tantra leaders and pioneers.

She’s most known for her “Sensual Surrender Play Shop for Women” where women learn to embrace their creative life force energy, get in touch with their bold Yes’ and No’s, to create safe and powerful boundaries and to play a dominant role, at the “Dakini Domme Knight Masquerade.” A catalyst, facilitator and leader of deep transformational revelations, iX-Chel is inspiring creative purpose, juicy intimacy and orgasmic empowerment!

Please visit her website here:
http://ixchelsandivel.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin I were going to learn all about her has to being a leader in the tundra world and she just released amazing music video that you definitely got to check out so yeah please Michelle if you will tell us about your your path to Tantra and what you what you been up to sure thank you so much yeah I think for me personally I believe that there are some people who are just naturally carry that’s on frequent occasions on whether it’s like if you believe in past lives or not but for me how I ReDiscover that connection was I had to go was from doing some deep Shilling in my early twenties it was I am I was healing from a breakup and an abortion that I didn’t really want to have at the time and so a I went into this like depression and trying to see you and understand this traumatic event that I obviously created that I obviously was calling in for deeper and deeper real realization surrounds love sex and relationships and So eventually in order to heal those wounds around basically Shane Gill and just growing up as a Mexican Catholic of the environment to openly talk about intimate and emotional things in my upbringing so to even talk about things like Siri latex safe protection using a condom goes a long ways like as naive and ignorant and that’s as that may sound that led me to really hate having to embrace all aspects of my sexuality communication education and across the board and so it had I came across Entre as a way to embrace my own divine feminine energy my sexuality my creativity all of that which gives myself full permission to be true to my pleasure to be true to my body and also to create boundaries around how to protect my heart and soul at the same time so and hearing that part of me I came across some very well-known teacher and educator Mansfield and I was like my body was like dormant forever it just I can’t even look at a man in the eyes for like for a really long time but it wasn’t until I’m at this individual that I felt like something in me from my general just likes park and shoot right into my body like something had reawaken rewired and I feel that a part of me was awakened and so because the strong the connection feeling was so strong in my body I had to I had to figure out what it was and why and how. Just let me into a whole Rabbit Hole of like discovering things about and shortly after that taking a few years of teacher training learning from Charles Muir you know I really adopted it as a a lifestyle and so it’s become me but more than anything is to come meet more than anything I feel like contract has given me permission to really allow myself to be more true to who I am to be true to my pleasure to be true to my body and in my music video called comfort me so with indirect translation means with permission and then every day Latin America it means like you no excuse me like pardon me in a respectful way I’m like using visual and audio vibration sound waves to transmit this deep tantric you know connect and that I have Within Myself to spread it out to other people who may not be able to come to a one-on-one session or one of my antique workshops Place shops on so I came to Tantra for a place of healing some deep wounds and it has just been this unfolding process of reconnecting two parts of me that have been dormant and Reawakening yeah you want to talk more about the kinds of programs you offer what people can can hope to experience in your the containers that you create right now I’m I my most popular like Play Shop is called Central surrender and it’s a weekend intensive Central surrender Place shop at the weekend intensive and put on Ali is focused for women there is a part of the weekend where I invite my hand selected nice to attend and I got you these women into learning Forsyth Sheriff I just learning some communication tool simple communication tools to learn how to create container so that the women can dive too deep into their sexuality and feel safe and protected at the same time and then after the end of that day we do what I called the ducky nizam night masquerade fusion and you know for those of us who know what a Puja is and for those who I mean for those who don’t know what a Puja is it you know it’s devotional group Rachel and I have been to a few pizzas and some of them have been really amazing super cheap super traditional and awesome have been a little too like the new age like just like not really My My by my style and also felt that like I just didn’t feel comfortable sharing intimate Sexual Energy with just the guy who decided to show up to this light Puig i n Out to this like Workshop so I created a really close container and which I invite my hands like the nice either people who are either my call my friends are former clients or current clients that I work with so that it creates an environment for the women to feel even more safe and the Knights have very specific instructions to show up wearing and play through their Sunday’s fast or something they were wearing a wedding so they create this like full-on celebration ritual in which they come to surrender to the divine feminine The High Priestess I’m guiding this whole experience and it’s really about the women the women stepping up stepping into her what I call her spiritual. Matrix Neo her High Priestess self where she is asking for what she wants what she needs the words the words that she wants to hear from her night and obviously the night always has a safe word he doesn’t have to participate in the activities with the women gets you really stepped into that Salman aspect of themselves giving them an opportunity to find their sent her at the end of the intensive or the end of the toys are at least two really know what it feels like to be super dominant cuz they probably already have tons of years of suppressing their sexuality severe able to find that kind of sent her that feels really really good and so then the following day we were thinking person that experience and we participate in a Yoni massage and it’s it’s really powerful to be able to receive from the women because normally I mean at least in my chains I have I’ve learned to receive from like men or Partners or showed up to the game and they’ve always been for men and so to be able to step into the part of themselves as a Sisterhood Community is really likes special ed so ancient it’s so natural and so profound in like just feels like Quantum Leap things get shifted and so it’s really it’s really cheap really intensive it’s it’s very experiential and so that’s kind of been my signature weekend intensive and I so far have one scheduled for Boston and middle of July on thinking about also doing another one in Reno and the middle of August so these are events that are happening later in the year in the u.s. I’m considering doing like a smaller with tree down here in Mexico but I’m not quite sure yet if I ready for that myself so as of now I am I provide or a red intensive and a weekend intensive It’s All About Women surrendering into her feminine Central Priestess dominatrix archetype in the video there is sort of how much would you say in that video is safe directly derived from that that ritual I would say the majority of it some of the models in the video we’re actually a former participants and so it we were able to really like share that life happened to that ritualistic part of the transformational experience that they personally had on like transmit it back to town so I mean it to be a music video so you know you can only like you no feeling experience I got a glimpse of of a woman seeking a dear sister for guidance and support and at the end of the day like women are here to support each other into their new sexual Awakening in many ways is there so much taboo around that as well, there’s so much competition and jealousy between women as it is and so when we were able to create a safe environment for them to drop in it’s just like who we are and what we yearn for and and so huge part of the music video had a lot to do with with that cuz the song and it self was a baby with a big surrendering process for me the song was recorded two days after I led my first like out-of-state Central surrender play shop in Phoenix Arizona and I ended up recording the song like two days after the event I had no idea I was recording a song with a multi-platinum producer I just I started taking singing lessons as a way to heal myself from a car accident that I got in that like basically couldn’t move for 2 and 1/2 weeks and movement has always been my form of stability and inspiration and someone that was no longer available I had to open myself to other forms of moving energy and singing just was one of those things that just came to me out of nowhere and so the songs really about allowing surrendering and I feel Tantra is about that is a big part of receiving feeling being present and less about trying to make happen and doing it and it’s about what is here and now what are you and I think staying connected to that incident orgasmic Source that’s the doing we need to do you know is staying kind of thing present yeah it’s awesome I’m so yeah so stoked about everything you’re doing and there’s so many parallels I feel and I guess you know what other people you could say shock to Tantra which is the the lineage that’s really focused on Davie worships Davie Sedona and the the practice really cultivating men to be not just symbolically devoting to the goddess would actually be coming and inviting the goddess so much that I was just having this conversation later today it’s kind of like the end goal of that tradition would be so that when a woman is having sex with a man she’s having sex with a woman that has a penis in a way you don’t have that salmon and development balance and be able to run you know both the energies and mixed them but this this practice that you’re developing is is really interesting to me because I feel like there does need to be more space created Sacred Space created for for females to weather whatever their sexual orientation is to really create a non non competitive and safe container to help each other explore their bodies and then to have higher standards before they even start to interact with men sexually so that they know what they’re missing and I can’t be fooled because men are really like playing women and it’s really sad is that that what do you think about that that sort of feminist kind of shocked to Tantra approach to dealing with you know that disappointment so you believe that having a sacred safe space for women to dive deep into their sexuality is giving them empowerment security to be able to then show up fully and with with men is one part right basically giving up for that development to happen and then there’s thick a there’s an effect from that right which is that men’s bullshit is kind of put out of business if Women are Smarter and more empowered than what they’re used to settling for and so if you if you Vibe with that and it could talk about maybe some of the Transformations you seen or people just I’m sure just right before your eyes are like wow I didn’t know that my body could do these things and I’ve never been brought to this place by a man who wasn’t trained in excetera excetera well the the energy that comes out of the the women experiencing the Yoni ritual as a group around the altar all at the same time is so profound it’s so deep I’m looking that I’m finding so fascinating is how natural it is like obviously yes I’m keeping track of time I’m guiding them to do specific techniques and things like that but like really like it is just this once they have that green light it’s there is like it it’s the most natural it’s the most natural thing you’ve ever seen and so when they have that save space it it’s only Empower them cuz that’s an experience now in their body of what it feels like to be honored as a goddess because her their sister there wants to learn how to be the giver of of love the beat the conscious Giver of the conscious conscious Giver of touch and penetration whether that’s you know through touch or you know energetic and so they’re learning how to hold space give and receive and so therefore they’re able to then create that experience with with whoever pot with with any partner whether it’s another matter with another woman or a man so he feels that so many times it’s just like normal to go you know once you’re being sexually active to go straight into like having experiences with the opposite sex you know okay maybe you you discovered that you like you’re attracted to the opposite sex more see immediately jump into these experience and you know I feel that it’s just essential in the development of sexual healing and evolution to be have a new time to for women to come together and I also think it’s important for me to know it’s important for them to really be okay with their own femininity with their own sensuality I know this is kind of like weird but I don’t care but like what turns me on the most at is actually when I see men become like and then become sensual like I think it’s so precious cuz it’s so rare and it’s also like it activates a part of me that’s like a deep deep deep learning / hell yes it’s like yes this is what the world means a man needs to be stopped to understand softness to Experian softness and so when women have their safe space to be in there wild feminine nature without having to worry about how do I look good in front of this guy that I’m really attracted to or like you know can I hold his leg performance issues you know what I mean like it can get so like up in the head around the exchange and if Brothers can have a safe space to it doesn’t mean anything about your your sexual preferences but if they had just a sacred spaces to explore those aspects of themselves they may show up as more conscious and more gentle and present lovers as well for women and I said that they’ll just holding would love that I’ve just been called gravitated right now till it’s funny that you ask me because this year is like I’m feeling like I want to at least explore the conversation of providing things for my because I just have a way of understanding just a way of like I think holding space for them to know that I’m like really curious about what you just said what would drinking on yam and give yourself the opportunity to let them melt into your hands because I did a kind of experiment not too long ago just being like hey I’m going to do a sacred circle jerk for anybody can come up can come and learn how to injaculate into transmute orgasmic energy up the chakras and it was like a alive yoga studio demonstration hands on everyone’s welcome to you know Explorer and and it was beautiful kiss for the first time it was the first time for a lot of men to be naked with other men and for them to feel themselves and it’s just it’s so sad to feel like you know where there’s Olive is celebration of the top half of our bodies and what we do with our faces and what we stuffing our faces in our mouths but you know there’s said there’s and such little gourmet culture around the erotic arts in in the you know I never pressed world that we’re in so these is a really powerful yeah I agree like experiences for people to taxes and I totally agree that it’s so natural once the energy just starts flowing and everyone is in trained with it it’s the most beautiful natural healing force of nature that you just really it’s it’s it’s a it makes you into a warrior to want to tear down everything that’s gotten in the way of that. So do you feel like you are called to to take on some of that let’s say to be a voice of Tantra in espanol to the Latin American World which is has you know what maybe a even more I guess the Catholic conditioning is is is more tightly regimented I’d say within the Latin American Community relative to like you know him new-age hippies in Santa Monica or just doing whatever in you know using condoms like you just brought that up I mean most people take that for granted so I’m curious to know what what your mission is with that form of cultural integration I definitely feel very very very called to do that’s one of the reasons why I decided to move to Mexico a few months ago is to inquire and explore how to share this work with people from my life my similar bringing because it was life changing when I discovered hot grub and it’s been such a god one of the most like hard opening experience has to be a nurse in community that supports celebrates and respect Sexual Energy and so I want to see that in the world and I do feel call to share that with the Latin American Community I’m totally up for it I totally would love to do whatever I need to do to do that I’m just kind of finding in my boys actually like where do I start and I have like a few clients that I see here we do one-on-one sessions I got them on like a three-month Journey just like working on their percentage is their personal challenges and things they want to manifest and how they can use Sexual Energy to move through those goals I’m so it’s it’s a personal coaching / tan tribe and so I’m I haven’t figured out quite yet how to share this what’s the Latin American Community I would love to it was one of my intentions with the music video was too kind of like cheese the Latin American community that way but you know I I don’t necessarily have like a crazy leg support to get a pretty erotic music video out there so I’m just kind of like just patiently waiting to see how it unfolds like my intention is there and I’m just I’m just staying open to how to do it yeah I hear that will you have you were you want to talk a little bit about your the name Michelle and the Goddess that that represented the name represents and is there a way that you sort of the alchemize traditional indigenous maybe shamanic Priestess practices with your you know it sounds like mostly Hindu based tantric Define implications in what not if that’ll make sense Michelle is a midwife to the goddess of the moon and sexuality and she’s also a midwife Doula and I see her I was also just like this medicine to this a Medicine Woman Shaman what I find interesting is that I had a dear friend here that he told me that they had found the Mayans said it was he fell and the Greeks said it was Aphrodite so you know so I again I don’t have any back of research but what I got out of that was like it’s it’s a goddess I love goddess and I love goddess is a Medicine Woman you know I’m depending on whatever tradition she is like whatever communities you the part of an addition to the part of she has to behave or dress to the standards of that community and so I just I feel that for me and I know that I am here as a combination of a Medicine Woman and I love God I believe love is Madison and East Shaw is a moon goddess of sexuality she’s a doula and midwife and Medicine Woman and Tantra focus is a law on gloves and moving Sexual Energy true love devotion and respect all these are opening qualities and so me I see love as medicine sure there’s also other herbal medicines and plant medicines that are really potent aphrodisiac to the heart as well and the heart and mind but I see love is not a sin and I think that’s Entre is a beautiful vehicle for to expand love to expand on this empowerment in general and I don’t know if that answers your question love you out back to the desert the I kind of feel like there’s a sort of James Bond double O7 Mission with a lot of people who are attempting to adapt the tantric philosophy to the technology you know there is a very sort of electrical engineering quality to some of the practices that really don’t need Sanskrit to transmit I mean if you if I mean there’s so much to be said for having a d practice that involves the traditional mantras and yantras and let’s but even without access to all that I feel like a lot of it’s already been really it’s it’s it’s just very hard to access almost there anybody in and even in India it’s not what it was at the Heyde in you know like a thousand years ago so now what we’re left with is the the vestiges of that Richard deeper tradition and how we are able to incorporate the mythologies of indigenous cultures for trying to like break free from the post-colonial or deep decolonize your sexuality with a sort of cross cultural adaptation of Tantra that’s what you seem like you’re at one of those one of those aged secret agent Uno stacking language and hacking culture to try to give people the power back so yeah sexuality is everything it’s an end in the sense that when we’re able to claim that power for ourselves and realize that we all that energy that no church owns it no society and culture and we can start creating a new world that’s based on respect is based on evolution expansive is every everything’s pleasurable because it’s coming from that that space and so I feel like returning back the gift of your Birthright is a huge step in just creating a new a new world and I have a friend who’s been taking people on deep indigenous shamanic journeys with different indigenous shamans and leaders here in Mexico strictly indigenous like nothing to our new age it’s purely indigenous rituals and an indigenous experiences and you know I had talked to him a little bit about like so there’s got to be some kind of like something tantric something sexual around these indigenous groups of people don’t like the right and so he’s been working with them for like 20 30 years and he looks at me and he’s like I’ve been with these people for 20-30 years and that’s one area that they aren’t willing to share with me and he just looks at me he’s like oh yeah for sure like the most the most powerful leaders of the indigenous communities they actually easily have like five women as like they’re that they’re that bad they have nontraditional sexual partnership relationships meaning like they’re fully aware of the importance of sexual energy they just keep it to their own little world their own indigenous culture because they just don’t want more of their power taken away and so not everyone in their indigenous world can have five wives you have to have an inability to show that you can provide for all of those five women and treat them as Queens not just these domestic women that you know grow corn for you but like that they can they that they’re shocked the energy that they’re giving back to these King is going back to help the community and the evolution of the indigenous group so Mario’s been a part of a bunch of shamanic experiences with these different groups of DeGeneres people and there that their sexual rituals is not something that he’s invited or know or knows lessons other than just what he’s observed and what he’s been told he’s not allowed to participate in her know about so in some condition is communities in Mexico that are still like that are still pure they have their own contract Priestess pre-initiation practices going on still it’s more the modern Mexican the more modern Latin Americans that has been you know coloniso to speaker that has been cut off from that part this parts of themselves so yeah I do you like call to bridge the gap and that it’s just it’s just interesting how to like approach it’s at such a delicate dance of how to approach it so Intimates it’s a fine thing to bring up you know if you could imagine that it’s it’s in the in the the liberal kind of enclaves of the US it’s easy to forget how violent the repression was to get you know these colonies established and you know it would be so i d like to be able to have tantric temples celebrating all these things but it’s like the witch the Witch Trials have intended if they’ve just change forms and it’s not like you can really get away with what you’re doing you know something it’s it’s a huge it’s kind of a I can see the to be a sexual subversive with art and music is probably a lot more sustainable than building tantric missions and initiating people in psychedelic sexual you know rights but I’m thrilled to know is I’ve got chills you know this is exactly the kind of like anthropological on the ground kind of work that I feel we’re all it’s a duty to to revive this whatever name is what it’s it’s all it’s all culturally kind of stylized but it’s all primordial Shakti energy that’s being either repressed stories are expressed in celebrated or denied and you know wherever you go in the world you can kind of feel into what’s out of balance and sort of find The Leverage points and kind of open up those those channels so you’re deaf I’m yeah I’m thrilled to know that you’re you’re really digging into all this stuff and that that that makes me want to ask you about your role in the mainstream media I saw your demo reel it looks like you’re doing music videos with Snoop Dogg and you have done some action films and you know it could be that you kind of rice or a rising to a point of influence where you can break some taboos and play with it and and really launch memes for on a mass scale at Betts you for asking that would be awesome yeah you know I I thinking I graduated from college in 2008 and do you know I did I was totally like a loyal student to the system the American system going to school you know being in the honors class and like just doing all that I want to go to college there was a market crash there was like no entry level positions for anyting for the for marketing to write and so I was just on Craigslist like any other day you know looking for a marketing entry level position I would guess I’m I should start by saying that I’m going to share with you how I got started in the entertainment industry and how I feel called to be a voice on whatever level of mainstream level for ra Tantra for sexual healing more Beyond Sexual Healing I don’t even want to call it Sexual Healing I think it’s there’s a I don’t feel like that’s really what I’m about more like sexual Integrity sexual transparency as more what resonates with me but yeah whatever mainstream level I definitely feel like I’m a voice for that and I never imagined that I would be in a music video with Snoop Dogg I never imagined that my first audition ever I don’t even know auditions existed for TV shows like I was totally oblivious totally shut completely not aware but my first audition ever led me to a reality show on MTV which my partner and I at the like this The Stranger who I met on the show we won $50,000 and we split $25,000 which then led me on a path of life well fuck who cares about the market crash I don’t have to like what I have to work and that’s when I went to started to go to Burning Man and to explore all these alternative communities creative alternity communities and so just because one day in the middle of the summer I had moved back home with my parents I was looking for marketing entry-level position on Craigslist and something told me to look down instead of clicking the marketing PR PR whatever section that I was cooking every day for the last ever look down and when I look down it was as if like my entire like gays when you and then it just stopped TV film I would like TV film how is like I didn’t even know that existed like I was totally like you know like like there’s jobs for that like oh well I guess I live in hot like I guess I live in LA and Hollywood is is near Whittier California where I grew up which is like you know it’s a city between a suburb between LA and Orange County I was like blanket Hollywood’s think you know like people come to Hollywood well whatever I clicked it and the first thing that came up was like MTV reality show Justin Timberlake $50,000 competition show I was like I was like some cool so I clicked it and it’s like are you competitive do you have what it takes to win $50,000 on a competitive adventurous reality show if so send us a photo and a reason why I was like well I mean I guess I’m sending resumes all day long at hearing back from anyone I might as well spend a photo on a paragraph why I think I’m great for the show it took me the less amount of time the last amount of effort to send photos I had like no like modeling experience at the time and I just wrote a silly paragraph I’ve been like I’ve been a competitive Co nationally-ranked long distance Runner and I’m competitive because I love pushing myself and blah blah blah and I think I’d be great for the show I didn’t think much of it and over the course of nine months like seven auditions later I got picked for the show and that show changed my life it’s set me on a semi a little free and it sent me to explore using other talents that I didn’t work for necessarily just buy it just who I was being like as a kind of actress I guess whatever reality show star and so after I had a little bit more experience with camera I haven’t were having a moment with like there is something power about powerful about this vehicle yeah that that’s the real Priestess and priest shamans God men and and God is within her are being made every day on the you know Instagram celebrities assist really interesting territory where it we’re getting into now I feel that yeah this the the modern Temple where the theatrics of what used to be the shamans and Shawn Mendes’s in the the the the power to transform really most concentrated in the hands of the rock pop music TV pornstars you know the the the power to shape human sexual behavior and attitudes and ecological values and political you know ideologies it’s not that it’s not the CEOs and the politicians who have the power to shape the youth and the end of the voting of the youth and the the you know the style the clothing the fashion all these things are in the hands of pretty I would say mostly very well I don’t want to you know put anybody down but I’ll say that there is there’s lots of room for Consciousness evolution in the mainstream media and there’s lots of relative to the underground where you know in a lot of places like underground hip hop maybe more insightful with with political Consciousness and underground you know Burning Man or RAV4 trance culture may have more deeper you know wisdom and in an ecological awareness and integrity so that’s kind of what the mainstream is known for his dumbing things down to a level that makes everything into a Mick Mick entertainment there’s a few people out there there’s there’s always been you know operatives in Agents from the radical movements and the social justice department has all those movements kind of finding ways to hack and bring whether you want to call it a deeper truth or more whatever it is that they’re people to ring through I feel like when I saw your demo reel and I saw what you’re offering a Mike wow I mean I saw a meme of Snoop Dogg with his hands in prayer position sit and it said namastizzle that’s hilarious yeah yeah we just having said all that you know how do you feel about that that Duty responsibility opportunity magical Alchemy of bringing your level of training to the highest level of culture yeah I mean so for the most part of my initiation into the entertainment industry meaning you know the mainstream Bar Hollywood world has been also a deep guided and surrender experience for me I never really wanted to be on the show I never really wanted to be on all these things I just never really imagined myself as it I thought it’d be cool to like do a music video but I just like never really put his position myself as a as a featured artist like I’d just I was a completely cut off from that reality so to answer your question is like I also wasn’t aware that my first modeling gig was going to be with Nike you know what I mean ever so you know I am blessed and at the same time I’ve had to pull away from that world because I just wasn’t about some of those I wasn’t about that world anymore so for me I feel like I’m trying to find my truce and what it means to be like a a mainstream icon and because the sexual integrity and speaking and being a voice for that to me that is so natural it’s it’s I’m so deeply connected to to that like like like I studied at my whole life like it seems like it’s been just lifetimes and lifetimes of mastering that what I’m here to to master I feel in this lifetime is like how to actually leave it to to share it in a way that makes an impact for is is digestible cuz that’s the so I’m hoping. I’m open to the cause for sure why you know I’m here fully present I you know I just I’m here so I’m it sounds like you can if you weren’t striving for and sort of clawing your way to the top or starving your way you know it as a starving artist trying to make it you don’t have your big break in Hollywood but it just sort of fell in your lap or less than you probably have some some spiritual conditioning that you can be trusted with some of this power and yeah I’m definitely excited I think you could be on a Wheaties box or something if you could you know while I mean you see what you come up with yeah I don’t really I actually sometimes like a triple because it’s like how is at like possible that all of these things have fallen into my lap but and and at the same time I’m left with like will how do like I’m still left with a little unclear on how still choose to share the work so I don’t know how it’s going to unfold I’m just in it you know but I do find it quite interesting that my first audition ever was on MTV 120 $5,000 my first modeling client was with Nike my first music song I recorded was with a multi-platinum producer my first music video was with a Sundance winning filmmaker who created the trailer for my favorite movie of all time Avatar it’s like all these magical creative hands have some like or like you know National brand icons have like some have been part of my journey but like I still don’t feel like I’ve quite made it you know and I don’t know if I’m supposed to make it I’m just in this deep unknown right now things can Ray radically shift you know in any moment or at the same time it’s just like those were just credible experiences that my soul was here to experience and that’s all it was so it’s like it can go either way I’m in a deep place of unknown and surrender and Trust which is my word for 2017 is a stressed I think you’re a have a great approach to it because if you get too obsessed with the destination you don’t enjoy the journey and if you’re yeah I can be you can be debilitating to you know some people call it pronoia your ear so obsessed with your bright future that you just a dreamer at this point so I’m trying to ruin about the psychology of a pathological General well it’s you know I the sort of hands that have shaped my destiny I don’t think they would be as well some of them you know I was on the Joan Rivers reality TV show doing a survival in permaculture backyard makeover and that’s my little claim to fame for my Landscaping businesses that I work on it my moment so if you know being on the stages in in punk rock and metal bands in Hollywood where you where you’re opening for the bands that are at the top of the industry of the genre and you know feeling very it’s just blue balls for us for a certain level of being established and just knowing that it’s your surrounded by and also seeing how you know how just say it’s it’s it’s a different form of frustration when you when you feel like with with with some with so much power that you see people squandering it took to have a positive influence and if you could just have one drop you could just transfer I mean I could get all the trees that were cut down the last 500 years planted overnight if I could be as popular as any of these icons that I’m opening for you know what I mean so it’s just raining. But I also know that you know it takes time and Austin people who have to ripen more and mature more and get you know it like they say it takes a long time to be an overnight success and you know I’m going to be grateful if I have you know a slice of that pie at some point in this body in this life I’m going to be grateful that it did it did it came later rather than sooner cuz it would have just me know I wouldn’t have been ready here I would have valued the things that you value now and you know now respect now swag. I’ve been like I’ve been an entrepreneur since I was 12 years old selling candy at the girls PE locker room I think like ready for my overnight success know well that’s awesome if you have a marketing background to me and you you know you’re able to to see and understand and really not be well yeah you have a sophisticated perception of what’s Happening as he has all these opportunities develop so I got to say I am really I’ve talked to a lot of people about you know what their Tantra craft is and what their mission is and how they’re sort of what’s in their cauldron and what they’re trying to manifest and I really appreciate you know where you’re this orientation that you have to apply Liberation technology to the masses of the Latin American community and also with your already to me it’s already iconic status if you have all these things have me feel you could just knock down any door that you wanted to and get everybody getting freaky with the surrender Play Shut Up and really affect some change yeah this is exciting so it’s definitely the kind of phones deep-cover work that is so exciting and yeah so what is and what do you feel like is his next or what are you yeah what’s your your next steps with your meteoric rise what’s my what your meteoric rise to power you know I’m finding myself being creatively hungover from from doing the music video I was pregnant for two and a half years holding space for this Vision to come through so I just released it not even a month ago and I’m still kind of like decompressing from that and the only thing I have right now currently planned is essential surrender Play Shop weekend intensive in Boston in the middle of July and possibly another weekend intensive in Reno Nevada like the weekend before Burning Man in like middle of August that’s all I have planned totally wish I could tell you I got more things lined up and this and this and that but like I’m just not so I don’t have anything other than that I mean this what is the paraphrasing but basically when she started hitting the fan you know you have to meditate three times as much not if you if you get really busy you got to meditate more to know how to process you whatever you’re up against weather is opportunity or you know or you know Revolution and repression it’s it’s it’s definitely good that you know to have that space and not be too crammed in just be slammed with one thing after the next so now we’ve kind of arrived at what was my hope for the you know what would be the title of the show would should be hit mainstream encontra and you yeah you’re you’re definitely in a position to to talk about I mean it seems like they are you good with Tikka want another few minutes. I’m very open I can almost talk about anything freely like I’m like I had a girlfriend say will be very clear about the things you do want to talk about things that you don’t want to talk about actually I’m pretty much open but I can talk about anything from my life to my opinions about things I mean across-the-board it’s like it’s good and like I am like healing from a recent primary relationship transition so for me this is like awesome I can get too focused on sharing myself you know to others and that last being in the the sadness around that that break up for a transition we’ve really arrived to where was the sort of summit of the conversation that I was hoping for where we would get a really good sense of how really qualified you are to be sort of in a position of power and influence through mass media and entertainment media and in so your ass I see that you have you have sort of your at this kind of very interesting juncture where you have in a non was sayin on Tantra contacts you’ve had all of these successes and sort of you’ve been put on the map of the mainstream entertainment industry in a way that you have credentials you know networks in it we with within that Network your well-known just for your athleticism for your acting abilities for you’re probably to some dancing to if you did the music video with Snoop Dogg you probably at the shake it and all that stuff so you’re as pretty much well-rounded of a of a of a talent you know in the in that world yet it wasn’t you going in strategically and redesigning the industry in a way that was to sort of propagate tantric memes and whatever whatever sort of sign adapted form would fit the the opportunity you know you know you haven’t really produced this music video will be your first media production that was your like full-on this is my Tantra and I want my fans from all of my legacy of my entertainment work in my you know I profile work to then-no me in this way and want to emulate the way that you want to emulate any other person on TV or any any other person who is considered a star you’re going to be emulating tantric practice because that’s what you’re presenting now in your own media so this is very interesting you know starting point for your for your own kind of media brand work is if it is that in my in my right about that this really was like the thing you were crafting is your kind of inaugural tantric media project coming from a place of responsibility I like sure it was like a knot in the inaugural whatever but it really was like me having to consciously do something about what I was done seeing in the mass media and mainstream media women being objectified I just like and I have nothing against men Isle of Man but like constantly being objectified so it’s not like men were in that power or Baba blah so I wanted to see a vision where the women were in her power for themselves not even for the opposite sex bus 3 Chilean Peso for each other and so for me it was just like instead of like you know like being the change I wish to see I was you know I complain about it either or be someone else to just like completely rebelled against the mainstream and just went straight to their alternative world I wanted a bridge that you know bring the alternative to the mainstream bring bring it like and I feel that as a artist you’re responsible for for allowing and channeling and allowing that creativity to flow through you and so it was a cat mainly came from a deep desire to to see something new to experience something you and to be able to leave a guest bath to the Denton the generations to come like you can either see a video over here where you’re getting rappers taught like throwing champagne or you can be initiated into a world of deep power and security for yourself or a better world a world that is a store has versus like someone else’s agenda propaganda of conditioned and drama more drama between men and women it’s like so you share what’s true to you and your Evolution and I just felt like I reach this point in my career where I’ve been initiated in different ways to become that person you know I I I just so I felt again not everyone can come to my Boutique experiences but they can play a YouTube video and get an idea yeah that’s so that is exactly where I want to go next with this it which is is that lets let’s kind of do something if you’re willing a little bit a little bit out of the box in experimental which is that lets what’s I would say you know there are other forces who are who are present for this conversation I would say Your Spirit guides my Spirit guides is a deities that we have been honoring and our practices just you and me and are in our work in the world that has been in alignment with the Earth is in which cultural human Liberation all these good things and there is I will believe that the designers and creators the masculine and feminine energies that came into Union to produce this beautiful turn planet that we live on there because of the the negative forces that are really destroying the planet a very rapidly there’s there’s a sort of I believe there’s a desire by the by the benevolent forces you know in all Dimensions to sort of vet on some of the the people who are who are kind of conditioning themselves to be in more powerful positions to kind of in like a sort of like more like a soft martial art kind of way you know change these patterns and in disrupt the the curses and break the Spells and bring in this positive love light energy through sexual empowerment Liberation in that if if we acknowledge that we are being empowered and sort of their pulling strings for us there making things happened on the set but that we don’t even know about you know synchronicities and all these things so you know I’ve conditioned myself I’ve had enough mind-blowing synchronicities to know that there is you know the only limit is your own self-doubt and your own nervousness about stepping up to a more empowered position in and so with all that said you know what I like to ask you for his is the sort of a intentional space to imagine that let’s say that you really this is your big break and that this Snowball Effect occurs with just that video and your existing establish Network and just the that you can get it that that a marketing you know nuts and bolts marketing campaign results in your video becoming a viral video and that then launching you to a place where you are now touring the world like most very successful artist which is almost every day of the year was the tireless World touring schedules and you’re actually able to sculpt and design in thousands oceans of people at is massive festivals and you’re able to give them a total embodied Fuji experience through a directed ritualised application where it’s not just okay there’s a yoga class and then there is alive act it’s the live Act is the yoga class and you are having the opportunity to literally say OK everybody who’s male identified shiva’s you go on this side of the auditorium and everyone who is shocked identify if you go on the site and we’re going to make a big spiral and we’re going to synchronize with so that’s my Ultimate Fantasy is that tantric rockstars will reshape the World by creating a live Pooja experience on a mass scale and I want to know if ever imagine what you would do are you salivating for that opportunity to you you’re saying if I make a video when people get to see at least I get to see a video but what if they get to step into that reality that you created for them as you were live touring acts like Madonna or pink or anybody else you know to be able to do that every day except for the three days before my moon cycle before my Movement 3 days after my break so easily I could be as my as long as I can surf in the morning or in the evening and like you know just eat healthy food along the way totally give us a few days to healthy food and a surfboard and make it so number one let’s see this happen cuz I trust you a power and it seems like it’s hot it initially equation of a Quantum leaps you know it’s an in-body to experience it’s a full-on cellular activation and I would love that and it’s so funny that you’re asking me because I had to someone else, he’s like I want to manage you I want to go on a tour and can be part of the performance I’m like sure like the thing about me is like at least lately I’ve been less about wanting to make it happen or wanting to put all of that masculine energy to do it because I really want to be true to my house in my body as a woman and I feel like I’m in my college athletic years I have completed my emotional feminine body because I had to use that was so into doing and athleticism and running errands and going to work and going to school that like I feel that I’m in a place where I’ll show up and run I want to show up I don’t believe in that tour schedule either it’s kind of you know it’s it’s it’s not sustainable for a lot of people but let’s see if it’s more the idea that if you were if you were you know instantly had that much than you would say you know what hey let’s do this several times a year let’s do this on every continent you know a few in a couple times a year or whatever if your self a break and then make account and I run so much energy in a day sometimes I’m like what the hell I did all of that in the day that like I feel like if I could share that on a mat I like having a bigger scale like that much more people will be affected you know so I feel that I was born to do a world tour like I I kind of I was the kind of training I did as an athlete like waking up every day at 6 in the morning to train for 2 and 1/2 hours and go straight to school then after school waitress for a few hours and then go back home do homework go to bed at like 1 in the morning and wake up against her and another eight miles again and do it all over all year round yeah like it was full on Jedi training and so like now I am still that acted but it’s more a comes from more of a feminine being what do I need to do to care for myself now okay I need to go to I need to go surfing okay now I need to do a practice oh wow that was 70 minutes but it’s felt like 10 minutes you know so I’m still that physically active and undisciplined it’s just in his steps in a different way so for me at or is not even like that like that shocking to me it almost feels like that’s what I live on a day-to-day cuz like most of the places I’ve lived in the last three years have been isolated places like I live off a cliff where I see the have an ocean view and I am I spending where I live like on a day-to-day I constantly have to like pack for like all these little things that I personally need to feel great when I leave my temple so Tumi travel should I hold her thing like it would be like so much fun it would be a blessing so I’m all about it putting out to the universe that yeah well that’s yes so you know maybe what we can It’s cool cuz we haven’t we have a similar vision of what what could be done what’s not being done and how it could a lot of fun you know for a lot of people in that and so now I I think it would be a good sort of closure closure piece to just visioneer if if if you could have all of these things that are the nuts and bolts mechanics you know of of putting together that the the dream world touring production you know if you were to design it as a like a production designer let’s say you were to design that what needs to happen again without you having to to claw for it but what what needs to just flow into your reality and and just seamlessly dovetail together in order for that to come together like do you have a do you need to assemble the band do you have an inch a full set like a live set that’s at least you know good well at that level you be having to do more than just an hour but you know those are things that if you Statham especially to contacts like this where everyone who listens to this is going to be like a bit torrent energizing it in an in hyping it to know I’m praying for it so it kind of leveraging that that affect you know what do you see is the barriers or that they had things obstacles need to be removed people places things opportunities resources that need to be installed and then you know so that you can get the show on the road yeah that off the top of your head just put some of that out there so it’s clear yeah thank you so much for that question I think what I’m imagining is I swear people to experience a ritual through sound visualization and aphrodisiac medicine whether that’s food or news from kind of like herbal tonics are tinctures are elixirs of some sort but it for it to be a ceremonial Gathering and person or people took manifest their own personal desires as they come into this experience it’s a it’s a community ritual to community Gathering and Activation so I’m imagining it that weather is my music someone else’s music but it’s it has that vibration of full chakra opening where you can feel that orgasm erotic like in my body permission to be in your body everything around that Ambience is that colors that that a Fabrics like a it’s a guided experience it’s a form of meditation that is beyond the sitting in your Lotus position and it’s it’s it’s how your skin cells breed and so I’m seeing it just like this intentional Gathering I’m not sure it can be it can be I can be I don’t like going between like I can be effective aleichem it just a walk it’s like almost like a mini circus like traveling circus tour like you come to the temple you get your healing your activation and then it’s either going to travel to the next destination but you come in for a deep healing and I would love to see like-minded like-minded people come together I love to for both men and women to feel safe to feel what is being evoked through these performances these performances AR Essentia central air contractor ritualistic there Priestess their bowls there yeah I don’t know if I’m being but it’s just it’s just it’s just a experience it’s a full sensory experience where you don’t there’s no room for your mind to make anything out of it rather than what the fuck you know they’re what the fuck you up and so that’s it yeah I think that that’s a beautiful vision for people to energetically sign onto and pray for and if there were some more practical pieces that you feel like you know like let’s say what what it what are a few events that would have to happen or synchronicities it would have to happen that would give you start healing start to give you the signs okay I’m going to I’m going to meet the universe halfway because you’re coming you know the the the backline band and you know the invites to festivals I mean it’s really like you know it could be as simple as that’s like the blue sky budget it real No Limits vision of you actually at the absolute peak of rock starter doing everything the way you want to do it but it could be as simple as that microcosm of that is just like are you performing live with a band or with a DJ and Are You Are you delivering that experience in in the form of a you know if you have a concert where you know whatever the whatever however small that container is that you’re sort of squeezing into to fit on asset asset at a club the festival or something like if you have that assemblage kind of pre-packaged and ready to explode you know are you like are you are you digging you know where can people see you jam and do this live and is that something that you have to get your act together for before you get the show on the roof like I only have one song out I feel like I am limited you know it like how I can creative express myself but what I was feeling called to do is like what I’m seeing now is like it’s it’s a full my performance show I’m open to working with a DJ however I feel like most people that come see DJs like one it for the electronic music versus like the performance that is happening on the side so I feel like yeah so I feel like it would have to be like some kind of a live musician who also has like a tantric background and wants to see other heater understand he or she understands my story and what I want to communicate creatively and so he or she has a full freedom to play as she or he feels inspired Moment by moment but there’s the common theme of sexual integrity and transparency and however way we choose to express that people are coming to see that live performance at live fresh spontaneous ass obviously the song is going to be played because that’s the one song that is available on whether I just start opening with that or closing with that but I really would love to see some kind of a counterpart musician whether it’s a few and like I’m I would love to create orchestrate something that is about transmuting sharing that sound wave you know and and and Visually me being like the Muse the devil. See the. Kini the dance of the Sky Dancer and just expressing that in like there could be poetry in between and like storytelling there guiding people to step into those archetypes meditating with them and then letting that part of them XP Express is what you need to do it this is how it can look like at home if you want to go deeper come to the weekend events happening next month or in the week or whatever you know but at least creative way they can they can experience at so I totally need a I need to get my act together but like I do feel that art is one of the most is is a powerful underground receptive way medium to Sheraton truck cuz like I feel honestly there’s a lot of teachers are getting too caught up in the head the explaining of it is the the professionalism of it like let’s get real this is an energy of the feeling like how are you make sure they can come to your Pooja on your Workshop but like what about beyond that beyond the how to what about how they can feel now and now and now and now and now like that experience that liberates some verses this is how you do it like everything else like let’s learn from someone else telling you how to do it how do you say they can be in Merced Community and experience and ritual and ceremony and that natural place within themselves where they claim that contract lineage for them breaking out I don’t want to be on a pedestal you know it just just want to be a part of my community again absolutely will something that I think would be the the sort of the CID magical sigil for the vision board of what we’re saying if it’s not if I wouldn’t be out of line to Coke Inspire on on This fishing I’m actually I’m looking at this article about sting and in his comments about tantric sex from this this article and see did you hear about that I’ll pretty much the West was introduced to Tantra through stings comment and a magazine interview years ago where he talks about having sex for hours with his partner and said I haven’t you heard of time trick sex like big you know first Awakening around Tantra I wouldn’t know it was because of him that leaves more to be desired because I think it was just the sort of I mean if in the history of Tantra is encountering in the west that was like the the sort of flash in the pan where the term got got out there. I didn’t know she was like whoa you can be no man can last for more than you know five seconds and actually be making up for an hours and sting is that what it is and so it’s been my secret fantasy you know that sting which you don’t answer I’m trying to engineer a new archetype of a ton truck Rockstar and actually get on stage and sing and dance and do devotional Pooja worship and get people on their knees and get him you know shaking off game 11-9 each other and then and sting already actually is the by definition the tantric Rockstar but I don’t know that he has actually built a Puja around his performance which you would expect that he would be so inspired to do that at some point yeah be like you’ll sing what up can I introduce that’s the way to think about it if you imagine you know who knows how realistic it is but that’s not we’re not we’re not here to be realistic a line so I can see a bill you know it’s like why not I mean he’s he’s Still rocking you know he’s still doing it and he’s also been featured in the 2012 time for change documentary by Daniel pinchbeck which shows him talking about his Ayahuasca experiences so I think he’s about is totally ripe to flip that switches is any is the man so who knows but that would speed there would be divine these from all throughout the Universe coming to Earth to to witness that that to her from the Moon you know that all watch this beautiful experience of Sting Township rigid tour yeah yeah so so do you want to tell people how they can get in touch with you and get your you know services and signed up with thing and the main thing is you can visit everything for my services from my events from learning more about me on my website the full website name of the website is he shall send a bell but I I have a short link because the name is pretty long which is Sandoval. Com which is my last name and that’s as in Sam as an apple and as a Nancy d as in dog eyes and ivory V isn’t Veronica is an elephant Ella’s in love and in on my website you can find all of my social media platforms currently right now I think I liked Instagram the most you can watch the video the music video on my website and also unmute my YouTube channel I love doing live videos so you can text the you can check on Facebook for those pretty much everything is on my website so awesome any closing words you want to share if we go yeah thank you so much for this interview I so appreciate your patience is honestly been one of the weirdest it’s interesting experiences because like I just couldn’t imagine how things would just wake him up and I’ve never had a situation like this where I’ve had so many times over the course of so many kind of so-so many months so I truly appreciate you for holding that space for me and also holding space for so many people to tune in to what you have to share and yeah I really loved our conversation and and I hope I hope people find space inspiring spaces to explore the depths of their sexuality for their own Evolution and Humanity as well awesome yeah I got to say you know any time things start to get to be like a Bermuda Triangle I start to pay attention and I I start to believe that there’s some Dire Dawa stick Divine guidance happening and I definitely feel like we’re both aging like wine and this is probably the perfect time to make these alchemical prayers really this is I want I would like to see your medicine be viral content on the internet and that too then give you the the the rightful power to tour the world at whatever schedule that you like to be able to really rapidly decontaminate this reality from all of that horrible repressive baggage and you know make it you know make it work so yeah right on well definitely so good so it’s all in Divine time so yeah we’ll be in touch then definitely keep rocking and we’ll hopefully cross paths in the future yes thank you love likewise you have a good night thank you thank you for listening to the Tantra pump podcast please go to www.crunch.com cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition is to see me and improving the podcast for donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email fan at Tasha Punk. 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Beyond the Neo Vs. Classical Tantra Duality with Triambika TPP83

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Triambika picIn this episode I’m blessed to be able to explore the great works of Triambika Ma Vive and her masterful synthesis of neo and classical tantra. We discuss how to translate the esoteric principles of ancient tantra into modern cross-cultural interfaith language, theory and practice.

About Triambika:

“Playboy TV’s #1 Tantric Expert”

Triambika is an internationally recognized seminar leader, professional sex and conscious intimacy coach and the founder of The Ecstatic Awareness Institute.
She has guided thousands of men and women to empower their sexuality, by helping them to release shame, gain confidence, learn to have extraordinary sex, experience exceptional stamina and create healthier relationships.

Her powerful work with singles and couples have been featured on the Playboy channel, Personal Life Media, Source Tantra, Gilad Creative Media and as the lead host and emcee for the International Sex and Consciousness Conferences.

Triambika brings her depth, intuition, passion and magnetism to her work. Harnessing her extensive training and practice with the time-honored tradition of Tantra, human sexuality, non-dual spirituality, masculine and feminine dynamics, NLP, and body-based modalities including yogic therapy and bodywork, she helps her clients to reach authentic sexual freedom and to form fulfilling relationships that support the highest expression of who they are.

Based in Southern California, Triambika works globally guiding men and women everyday to lead a more empowered and authentic sexual life.

Being a seasoned practitioner and educator of sacred sexuality, Triambika also offers practitioner trainings for sexual healers and women’s sensual empowerment courses throughout the United States, Australia and Europe.

Guided by her resolute purpose to provide intelligent, accessible and unforgettable education, she is enthusiastically committed to coaching with compassion, fun and individualized attention.

Please visit her website at:
http://ecstaticawareness.com/

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin podcast episode number 83 I am doing an interview here with tree ambika mavi and she is Playboy TV’s number-one tantric expert which definitely has caught my attention among other things and intimacy coach and founder of the ecstatic awareness Institute and is really one of the world’s greatest living country code facilitators and and healers that I’ve become aware of and we weave briefly cross paths in different circles and I’m really excited now it’s Grandma cat have you as a guest and if you would be so kind just kind of give us your your life story how you got on this path of of Tantra and beyond happy to be here right now with you and getting to chat together my life story where to begin you know this path yeah I could say where it started as far as you know when I first started hearing about Tantra but I think it’s valuable to just go a little bit further back and say that I grew up with Catholic parents of a Colombian upbringing so Latin American upbringing and and Catholic religion and so there was a lot of Shame and there was a lot of stuff around sexuality and do you know you just really a lot of confusion and being a spiritual person and as I have always been it was this journey to try to find myself and my spirituality and yet not see myself as a slut or a hore which is a lot of wet you know that the extra tradition would have you think I’ll when you also want to be a sexual being so the idea of spirituality and sexuality in the same sentence was completely unheard of for me so I went forward in the world having to cope with that and there was some difficulty for me around that and being a very sexual being I wanted to explore I wanted to find out more about what was out there in this life and as soon as I became old enough I began to explore in the world of of sex work but not not having sex but more so it was a it was a roll of doing a lingerie modeling and I’ll say lingerie modeling and quotes it was kind of like a private Peep Show and and you know on the men were allowed to make themselves as comfortable as they wanted in the room and you know where they’re at their I am and and this computer lingerie and there’s like a chair with a box of tissues in a bottle of Jergens what kind of what kind of establishment will see how to say the name of course but I’m just curious how this was facilitated as a business model is like an establishment or if this was something you did before Craigslist and Backpage and all that well well before Craigslist and Backpage and probably before I even heard of the internet at that stage I was only 18 19 and I I thought it was sort of like a lingerie store a front for lingerie store that kind of had maybe six to eight pieces of really cheap lingerie hanging in the front and the guys can come and choose their model and there be about two or three of us working at any time and then we go and you’ll have a sort of a private keep show and you know I learned a lot during those years and I and I learned that I could make a lot of money and that was fun but I also had to learn a lot about my boundaries which I didn’t realize I had until only after they already been crossed so I know I went through a lot of trial and error in that phase and not knowing myself fully yet not knowing what my boundaries were and through being in a scene where people wanted to take advantage of me I just had to kind of get through that and I found myself at a crossroad where I was I’d made a lot of money and I’d saved a lot of money and I wanted to get out of the business and I was really struggling with with myself with my identity I have a lot of shame I felt I’m very insecure so a lot of of those internal turmoil that happened when when you don’t know yourself and your exploring sexually and a lot of things are happening very quickly so I so I went off on a spiritual journey to India and that was the first time I’d heard the word Tantra and in that in that time I learned that I had all these issues you know you don’t always know that you’ve got all the stuff going on so I realize why I’ve got a lot of issues and I have a lot to heal and the word Tantra just rang so loud and true for me it was it was just an instant connection that I had to the word and I said I got to know what that is I got to follow that path so the following year I I moved from Miami to California and I started sneaking out teachers and seeking out workshops and books and whatever I can get my hands on and from there I began and I found teachers and I found some amazing people along my path and I began to receive healing work and so as I started to receive Tantra healing work on myself from trained practitioners trained Dhaka Zen dakinis I began to release immense amounts of grief and shame and fear in my body and it was being immediately replaced with love and self-acceptance and appreciation for who I am and I started to transform and it was in it happened relatively quickly I started to see the changes and that just that was it I just never look back and I I just knew right away this is my path so having been in the world of sexuality from the very beginning and early as I was legal I you know it was it was a natural transition to go from a very unconscious sexual scene to healing myself and going more towards conscious awake and sexuality and it just made all the difference for me and all the difference in my relationships and and just how I progressed in the world awesome do you want to talk about how you are you’ve sort of found a career path through all that that is led to your rising up to instructor kind of leader facilitator coach all that good stuff will I went ahead and started to train pretty early on and started to take zucchini training the Tantra teacher trainings of Charles me or as one of my dear beloved friends and teachers and you know very very close like family to me so he he was instrumental for me and and several other teachers and I and so my career in this path again early and in over the years it took many forms and so I think that how it progresses that because I started at an early age and I’ve been involved in the work for so long naturally I built a name for myself and I also started started to a create a distinction between what was out there for a little people who were doing different modalities of sex work versus doing more sexual healing work and really making a name for myself in that way and that there is a difference and and there’s nothing wrong with either one of them but that there is something transformative that can happen and even you know in the face of pleasure right that it can be such a powerful transformative experience when when it’s done with the right amount of presents so after several years and the field I went ahead and studied with a Groove for about 12 years on I took initiation into a kashmiri tantric lineage and that was I think we’re thing started at transform because I I started integrating more of the classical traditional teachings of Tantra and a gain a lot of respect in the community for for having done that and and and study done in that in-depth way yeah and I and then the next big piece for me was was with with the Sedona Temple and the International School of Temple art where we began teaching training in spiritual sexual shamanic experiences and and now that training is being taught all over the world so I was one of the founding members of that and yeah it’s just been an amazing journey and I continue to coach and work with people one-on-one and I just I love what I do and I continue to train also a practitioners and that’s been another big pieces it’s raining men and women who want to do this workout in the world and I just I love all of it well it’s also so there’s definitely a lot of really deep material there that as far as you’re having that rich culturally authentic experience training and also that so it’s like you’ve become the synthesis of Neo Tantra and classical Tantra and that is a really exciting and Powerful combination because you probably have a great vantage point to kind of shed light on the whole Spectrum so yeah I’m really excited to to explore that a bit I’m I guess I’m curious how was your how did Playboy channel discover you or how did you get pitched her how did that that bridge get across I’m curious and I received an email from from Scout and one afternoon and they wanted to bring me in to do an episode 4 one of their swingers shows called swing and and then they brought me in again and is it just kind of went from there or so it was really just they went out searching for someone just like me and they they were there having a hard time finding it because it’s that kind of combination between you know a lot of people do Tantra and it’s a modality of sex work which is great and it’s awesome and I and I love that there’s people that are you don’t taunt Rica’s and doing sex work and what they were looking for though is a little bit more of the educational aspect and somebody that they can you don’t bring in to really teach and coach and so that’s what I am awesome so yeah it would you would you be okay with talking a bit about your experience that the traditional lineage Based training and she had just kind of maybe start with an overview and then we can zoom in here and there sure well I won’t mention his name because I know that you wouldn’t want me to do that but I will say that walking the guru to disciple path is really something else I something it’s it’s definitely for certain individuals who want that I personally don’t think I knew what I was getting myself into but I’m glad that I did and I’m glad that I’m not there anymore the traditional path of Tantra absolutely love it’s more just the dynamic between That Grew disciple it’s a little bit condescending and manipulative in some in some cases not in every case but for some people but the but the traditional teachings of Tantra are are so Adept and so powerful and so beautiful know anybody who wants to study that it’s you know it’s really very very deep but the whole path of life that is always the whole psychology it’s an entire path of Awakening from it from the way that you eat to the way that you think to you know something from what you do at the start of the day to the end of the day and then of course from the way we make love it’s everything is included so it’s you know it’s very powerful to live your life that way what would you say are some of the obviously I just I feel like the more I study at the less I can Define it the best I can explain it and it itches it gets even more elusive it’s so vast and so I’m curious if what some of the maybe just bullet points of what you feel like you were really blessed to have been able to experience it in and that one-on-one grew disciple training that people who are on a weekend retreat or certificate you know whatever the Neo Tantra packages to to get you out of your you no work week and normal mindset and into a a deep training what would you say are some of the things that that you know we will be missing out on not having the experience you had that are some of the positive things and then I’m sure we’ll figure out some of the negative ones too well I guess there’s a couple ways that I can answer that you know some of the some of the really positive aspects is you know to understand yourself as something much broader and bigger than the limited ideas that we have of who we think we are and to begin to actually have practices and tools and ideologies to begin to see do yourself in a much broader context and so when I when I can see myself as as Shiva as you know primordial Consciousness inkarnate I begin to experience the world differently right I begin to live into the world with less fear with less fear of death with less concerned about the minutiae and assertive come into the world with them from a more expanded stay and so that that’s something really valuable because you know we all can get caught up and in the end the little things right in the little things that that pisses off or noises and you know like that go ahead yeah that was just a green definitely I think a lot of people are bypassing maybe now in the in the so-called I don’t really know Nick neotantra is is kind of just as nebulous but it seems I guess one of the critiques that I would have and I I feel like India came to me I didn’t go to India at Lake came to me through Priestess initiatrix has waves of them coming in and really synchronistic ways and that doesn’t mean I don’t have a want to make a pilgrimage absolutely but I feel like what like the way I would like to Define Tantra for the mod for the modern era is it is a practice of goddess worship and if that’s missing then maybe it’s a dangerous path of Tantra that somehow forgot to put the Davey Sedona in the mix and I’m wondering if if you feel like that sort of the spiritual bypass of just the mechanical sexual breathing and you know the real practical impact are the practices that enhance your sex and love life and connection that’s all great but do you feel like you were able to kind of get more of a deeper connection to the cosmology in the mythology and took formulated to more clear question do you think people are missing out on that aspect a lot and and are you able to kind of translate and deliver some of that since you have had that sauce after deeper immersion training well that’s a great question and here’s what I think I think you are people missing out you know I don’t think that everybody is cut out for that depth of teaching I don’t think that those teachings are necessarily meant for everybody that there is something about Tantra that they caught the Open Secret where you know it’s open anybody can come and read the stuff but unless you unless you’ve got the eyes to see and ears to hear and really get it it’s might not be meant for you and not everybody’s interested in that depth of thought or that depth of Mantra and you know yantra studies and you’re all the Deep Sanskrit terminology like not everybody wants. So are they missing out well you know it’s something ignorance is bliss and so that’s okay for them is the world of Neo Tantra missing something sometimes sometimes in some cases it is and then definitely I aim to be that bridge and I also think that it’s for whom and when like if there’s if there’s a person who ready and interested in needs that teaching those teachings then I’m all too happy to deliver that and when a person isn’t able to receive that it’s sort of like how can I get around the fancy terminology to sort of present this in a way that they can really receive it and I think that that’s something that that the the classical Tantra did support me and a lot is is is broadening my perspective and then now what using my own tools to deliver that to any audience without it being too weird or fluffy or foreign practice of beholding whether it’s your consort or your wife for your ass you know your spouse of your concert or Temple dancer whatever the configuration is that that sort of quintessential divining of the Beloved as the god or the goddess or a combination thereof do you have you found a way to kind of translate horor deliver that experience without breaking people’s religious dogmas to giving him too much of a right turn you know when they’re not ready I just say one quick thing is that speaking to a client just yesterday who was wanting to introduce his very very religious Christian girlfriend into the path of Tantra and I got really excited because I think this is perfect because she’s already concerned about living in sin and so this would be a way for her to reconcile that part of her that says hey it’s okay that we’re having sex even though we’re not married and you know just because we can call in a greater power a higher power and just translate it so that it works for her so I think I think that if somebody is very closed off and in their in their on their religious path are not going to be able to receive any of it but I do think that there is a place for it in numerous spiritual just traditions because of the fact that when you really dig deep the sex aspect in Tantra is given great regard because of the spiritual element right it’s not just like we’re not all hedonist trying to find cool new ways to get off it’s it’s it’s all about creating deeper and deeper and higher and higher state of the union with the Divine so for some I think that I’ve actually been thinking about that a lot because I’ve been called to do the same thing and it in in a variety of different formats to try to upgrade the spiritual Technologies as it’s so interesting I guess what’s happening with with porn and with really thin BDSM and Fifty Shades of Grey there’s this massive explosion of I would call maybe sexual freedom I don’t I don’t like I wouldn’t call it Liberation cuz that has a deeper kind of station for me but there’s a new level of Freedom that I feel is to be perilous without wisdom tradition guidance and that’s why Tantra is got a lot of catching up to do to the to those other even if you look on Google Trends and you see the search frequency of Tantra versus the other I’ll be I’ll be honest and respectful and say that can be just as much as a form of those are sexual art forms and you know the pouring is a sexual art form genre but definitely as the the shackles of really repressive monotheistic I don’t you know all the religions that are repressing sexuality Resort of being bucked off by this mess massive high-speed internet delivery system and so there’s like a need for these churchgoers who are scrambling in the face of these menaces to their you know they’re there their ways really it’s going to take the work of what you’re doing and other people who are able to kind of say okay well now that the cat is out of the bag how are we going to maybe translate the Kundalini has the Holy Ghost you know and if they don’t want to hear about the serpent you know maybe they’ll they’ll be that the Holy Ghost can work for him do you have you any of that time Bridge Crossing sort of cultural healing stuff in my private work so right I haven’t I haven’t made it a point to preach about it in a larger way I know that Sean Roop has actually taught in churches which I think is fantastic I have made less the point of it all though it would be it would be fun but in my in my private work when people come to see me I definitely I asked about their their religious spiritual background so that I’m prepared and and how it went to deliver what I want to say and yeah I love I love what you just added there about the the Kundalini being the Holy Spirit and it is yeah that’s a lot of potential to too kind of transcend the old language around the Stephen Odell paradigm yes so do you want to talk maybe some more about you or I had a I had a curiosity definitely about you know we could probably go do a series of podcast about this very deep esoteric material and in the mystical and mythological aspects really I’m at like someone just recently said yet is witchcraft a that that kind of you know does it for me to to approach it with that level of you no respect and reverence and you know what is that mean if we think of it that way obviously that would scare off some of the Christian so it wouldn’t be conducive to help in that discourse but so yeah I was going to say I’m curious how the power broker is in The Gatekeepers of the mass media but say the Playboy Enterprise did they give you space to explore that more esoteric esoteric elements or do they ask you to reel it in and you know I’m curious if they have any yeah well concerns or I can remember the day going to their Studios in Hollywood and asking about that very thing you know how to do you want me to go pretty clear that this was meant to be for the larger masses that this wasn’t meant to be a teaching on the esoteric aspects of Tantra so and one of my superpowers I think is to be able to convert myself not convert myself but you know just sort of be able to be adaptable and and and speak to my audience and meet them where they’re at so I did keep it a little bit later I kept it still connecting at the Heart level and very much connecting you know sexually essentially but with presents and and and deep connection that we kept it there we did not go into the deeper stuff even though if you look at what I’m doing in the filming’s I am creating a Puja experience and so they don’t know they don’t know that they’re there there’s roots of that in an early Tantra and and and how that all came to be but they don’t need to know that they’re having a good time and then the Aryans the nuts and that’s what was important at that time that’s wonderful yeah I feel like that’s that is the the the sign of a of a master if you can really deliver the experience without having to convert anyone or push their boundaries too far and they just you know can be Believers in this in the spiritual technology Without Really any rhetoric or any you know any of the more controversial controversial apologies work you know so we really don’t know all that background if you really sit with another person in this way you feel different you feel a connection and and that opens up new avenues of emotion in Awakening in your body that weren’t there before you know when you when it was just sort of like here let me just broke you in the dark instead let’s turn the lights on and I should be with one another you can’t deny what happens there as long as your present right it is yet very if it for the for the Skeptics and the atheist and all that it’s just electrical engineering and even the symbols are very there schematics in a lot of the configurations the yogic scriptures and it was stration sits you know something that reads like stereo instructions sometimes you know yeah so actually something you mentioned there it makes me wonder I feel like a good way to tell always introduce the chakra system to people who are maybe never heard of it or only if seen you know hippies with banners hanging out of their tents or whatever but at the everybody has an experience of their heart chakra so do you kind of start there if you if you when you initiate people into Brett breathing into or doing the bija mantras or kind of chakra introductory orientation work do you kind of start there and yeah well can you talk about that yet how do you how do you teach the chakras if you don’t mind I mean whatever extent you you would you care to share it’s always fun one of the fun of the heart it’s it’s always where I began I view the heart in the heart chakra as an alchemical chalice where all transformation can take place so when we begin there any relationship that we have to our sexuality to our power to our survival to our intuition to my voice in the world all of it gets gets transformed when we bring it through the heart and then you can just look to see how anything that you’re grappling with in life just bring it into your heart for a moment I just sit with it there and then just see what happens but that’s always where I begin and as far as I got an education on on chakras again you know I’m I’m working with a lot of different types of people and sometimes I have people that literally want to understand contract from A to Z and and sometimes I have a people that are really just trying to grow and heal and don’t don’t care so much for the deeper philosophy but know that there’s something in this for them so again for whom and when and when there is a person who who needs touch needs healing who needs to be seen in this light we work with the specific chakras that he or she needs to work on right so often times that if the Power Center The Heart the sex Center in over some people obviously that first chakra and as needed I’ll go at go through and explain it but more important than me explaining it is them feeling an activation of it Brian said I could happen with just like he words coming in at Key moments when they’re open when the portal is open and you know I come in with keywords that pertain to that cha Crush they don’t need to know that the color orange or yellow or that it’s this particular geometrical shape they need to know that right now their power is being activated and and we are calling that in there in a very potent way in other cases I find the chakras fascinating I love talking about that little ins and outs and specific mysteries of all the chakras it’s fascinating to me it’s total like braingasm material yeah yeah so in the right setting and that’s what I’ll do cool yeah I kind of feel like when I have to explain it to people who maybe you’re just skeptical in general or like yeah whatever we will be able to stay well imagine that your you know your physical body has a series of ink cartridges that print you out and they can malfunction and stopped working and then they can distort your sort of damage that you gave yourself the physical print out and so you want to optimize that and that seems to work as it’s kind of in a broader way that these seven centers where energy concentrates you can even see it as where you’re like nervous system will come together and concentrate it is the all the way that we receive and perceive the world so both how we receive you know these different functions and also you know how how we perceive that being acting out in the world and in that you know we are either perceiving the world for through these different modes you know in a very a contracted way and sometimes we’re much more open-minded about it or open-hearted you know it just kind of you know giving giving birth examples that people can relate to I think is is probably the most valuable so if you don’t mind I’d like to talk a bit about your perspectives and experiences with what is kind of sort of it’s a term now it’s like a modern term Sexual Healing like you could say a sexual healing it’s actually a veritable almost Medical Practice in with the Certified Six electrical bodyworkers training it’s I think that’s probably the most sort of codified that that a Hands-On sacred spot massage Ewing is is sort of been in in modern I guess medical legalized if you will but I’m really curious I’ve had this question in the in the back of my mind for a while where is the I’m not I’m not What’s the Word a fundamentalist when it comes to the scriptures there’s some really weird stuff and some of the scriptures so I definitely don’t want to have to sort of validate most of it was most of it has been traditionally village-based verbal pre-vedic pre civilized indigenous Shamanism of I would call bastardized patriarchal you know elitist extraction and then you have codification and in the in the scriptures so it’s it’s gets murky to say what it what is or isn’t authentic or or can be traced back to some cite citation in a document but I’m curious if in your training you’re probably one of the most qualified to answer this question is where does the sacred spot massage training or certain the discovery of that is there is there some natural history of that in the Indian traditions of Tantra that you’re aware of or is it you know I’m so curious to know what you want cuz I think we just kind of adapted we adapted and then we just sort of maybe don’t understand the the deeper origins or or just sort of get some what’s the word I guess it’s too taken for granted in modern Neo Tantra that this is part of Tantra but I’m super curious if you would know where you would go to actually study at traditionally or if there’s scriptures about it you know any of the Davey kind of hymns and stuff so you could go on and on about the Oni and all I mean exhausted leave it like it’s a beautiful discourse on the only and all of its magic and all this mystery so I’m sure there’s some references there but anyway scripture speaking I have yet to come across something specific about the secret spot from a traditional standpoint it’s it’s if it’s written it’s written in a serving in a mysterious way and what I know is that the term sacred spot it was coined by Charles Muir om some 3540 years ago it was taught to him that the practice without it being called secrets about the practice itself with was taught to him by a bee and a tantric practitioner and I’m saying this was like 30 maybe 45 years ago now at the stage for him so so where it that particular practice originated from I can’t tell you exactly but what I can tell you is that when you really look at it and you look at what’s happening in the body and where where were actually referring to it’s not just the G-Spot it’s not just that one little spot on the body it’s more of a secret area and it went to when you touch into that area in a man or a woman inside the body it gives you access I could deny it gives you access to the energy of all of the chakras and all of the cellular memory and the emotional content in that space and if you look at how the channels of eat. And peeing alot and so shall not that the three Central Channel’s come together and they sort of intersect at each of the chakras their their last point where they intersect is there or down there close to the base of the spine and so we’re kind of moving energy and connecting and playing in that area where all of the channels merge and we’re basically all of the chakras merge because each of the chakras are touched by these channels I hope that didn’t sound too totally far-out there in all this I mean I’m absent totally seeing all this like as if you were you’ve got you know a video projector up in this is a you know UPS exactly what I’m PowerPoint hear a lot of modalities that are popular today you know somewhere along the way someone figured this out and it got invented I don’t think that that that it’s any less powerful whether or not it came from the scriptures I really haven’t seen it but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some type of mention of it of course it wouldn’t have been called The Sacred spot it probably was referring more to Yoni Puja and and some other type of internal practice now when I when I worked with my Google make my spiritual teacher and I bet that there are a lot like in Chinese medicine solutely marma points along the outside and the inside of the body and so somewhere in all of this tradition it was figured out that when you go in and start activating these points or even on the body right that that you can you can access a lot of different types of energy in the body so so if I can sort of yeah process that a bit it it sounds like if there was ever a president within classical Tantra to do the Yoni Puja as a devotional ritual of oil massage of some kind whatever was available maybe sesame oil or I’m not sure if you would know that I would say but I don’t see if we wanted to do like a historical reenactment of the birth of you know this tradition of veneration of the genitals as the one of light in the gates to heaven I mean the really show people National Geographic or something maybe it’s another another you no experience of media like a National Geographic kind of experience where this is the real deep heart stuff but I guess my question is so you would if it during a Yoni Puja you would obviously be accessing the so-called Grafenberg Spot or whatever you know the goddess spot is a better way to put it but it wasn’t the sort of Silver Bullet kind of medical prescribe saying like oh you need to go get this G-spot release massage experience have been gone like you go to the temple and you know be a part of some ritual that would be open to initiate soar through some process you would gain access or your your lover would be trained I mean can you could you is it possible to walk through what it would be Circa you know 1000cc going into a tantric Temple and being like hey I heard about this food to thing like where the level of devotion so the the devotional aspic going back to what you started with earlier about you know Debbie worship goddess worship that the at the Yoni and lingam are both this is the consecrating force of the universe right this is where we come together in our too masculine feminine polarities and unite and this creates life and that the entire universe is like a gigantic erotic active love hence we are created this is whole universe so I think that’s where it started begins as is with a larger understanding of of the Oni and the lingam as creators of life and and so maybe a little bit further apart from the individuals Yoni but more so from this or the cosmic sense I think that as as you go in to to worship and individual Yoni the inside of the woman’s body generally in the tradition from the from all of everything that I’ve read everything that I’ve learned and understood and and things that have been performed on me that it was not actually accessed on the inside that’s the mystery right that’s the Beautiful Mystery of the universe that’s the mystery of like what a woman’s body does so as far as I know it and I’m just being really really honest here what I’ve read in the things that I experience at that traditional level we’re less about going on the inside and more about the honoring and devotional aspect on the outside and that’s why I think that somewhere along the way probably probably pass the time of whatever was written about was where the inside of the body started to get incorporated as a means for for healing but here’s the same the lingam Yoni connected was on the inside so so you know what I mean you know what I mean so it’s like in a way your were accessing the mystery mine that yeah they actually did it just hit me so crystal clear right now we are so wounded and detached and not that every active sexual love has to involve and inserted object that’s a human lingam or just the idea that you can’t have sex with your doctor even if the doctor is trying to heal sexually or something that’s the reason I had to be really divorced from that Union is that we live in the modern world that’s hyper regulated so now it’s sort of it sort of like that maybe had to evolve into this clinical finger based process but then there’s there’s benefits from that it’s not like it’s the first time obviously have the entire world history of lesbian sex and all of the foreplay and like the Chinese were very advanced in their deer pillow books you know that it’s wasn’t like it was a history of reaching in there for various desired effects but have that makes a lot of sense that you wouldn’t you wouldn’t have to it wouldn’t be necessary nice way to practice back then it would just be okay partner up and do what you know how to do instinctually in when you going to stop on the wheel now you’re in front of this person and you need to get beyond all of your preconceptions about attraction or who you think you should be with or want to be with and it just has to go because this person is divine in front of you and and and now this is the practice you know you’re going to unite and you know what lesbianism gay people is it was like there was all kinds of sex even then it’s not like everybody was heterosexual and not and not everybody who went to sit with the guru is heterosexual but we understand and Tantra that there is a lock-in key effect that happens when you bring together the lingam in the Yoni so it doesn’t matter your orientation but for that specific practice in that Tradition at that time right now and that time it mattered that there was the lingam and the Oni connecting and that that was that sort of lock and key effect that unlocked the mysteries of the universe and your potential as a Divine being actually something you brought up in that in that bit there I think there is a lot of confusion around how the if I’m not you might be better be probably better pronouncing it then I have I don’t know if I’ve heard it actually spoken but the word my tuna or my through I don’t know if it’s a good position to kind of clarify and you just let me know you go to a Puja and it’s a cross between the preschool patty cake and whatever people were doing back when they were doing the five M’s and transgressive practices and passing around cups of wine so I just actually read in a book recently that the tantric way I believe it’s called is the country way I would like the most descriptive no-nonsense if you know it would take an issue it’s about a year of screening and then the ritual go on for about an hour and a half and they had this many cups of wine that were passed around in a circle and it was like all of the mechanics that I’ve never heard in one place at one time or read about what that ritual actually entailed and they even had sort of like I like a coat of arm or emblem kind of thing with little icons of the five transgressive gems and other stuff so you talked about just now you mentioned just briefly that that hooja of that ritual you would be you would be rotating like clockwork between potential strangers if they’re not they weren’t all strangers and it was to achieve some sort of mystical effective like you’re saying unlocking the universe and having you know he said he’s effects happen so do you want to give you her sort of a bit of share your understanding of what that would it look like it’s just as if you were you were giving it to a production crew so that they could reenact okay production crew I want to see what this look like I really you know but you know it’s interesting because I got it the first place that I go is more at that deeper level of what was the point of this and had a very deep level the point was non-duality was it was to understand that you know nothing was inherently bad that nothing is inherently good here we are using the five items that are completely forbidden to show that hey we can do this inside this ritual and and nobody’s going to burn in hell for doing it and nobody’s going to get brownie points to go to heaven either it’s it’s it’s it’s a non dual experience it’s a Continuum of the hole and so when I guess you know going back to the production level or there have to be some teaching on that and and you know I visualize and an inner circle and Outer Circle and a rotation of those Circle so that you are doing a sort of a mini poodle mini ceremony with each person that you’re with and each one has a meaning and has a connection to a to a different aspect of the ritual until you get to the point where you are now going to go into sexual Union and okay could I still be able to 2nd generation Fusion experience that I’ve had him on as a guest and he is a great perspective by calling the Karate Kid of Tasha in that experience a sequence of offerings and on rings and sort of time gestures that were so that you would go through a rotation numerous times and you would encounter the same person numerous times and it was sort of an Excel around o of of purpose and meaning and emotional depth so is that just to kind of put us in that in the frame a little bit you’re saying you wouldn’t just be like okay everybody strip down and person a on Inner Circle connect with person be on Outer Circle and sexually and then move on to the next would actually be like a sort of spiraling Cujo kind of practice wear multiple different interactions would happen if the oven on sexual nature that would lead up to okay now we’re getting to the end of the the union party absolutely because not all aspects of the ritual were sexual and you look at the the different aspects from what we know there’s you know there’s I’m ingesting a food or of a substance involved there is there there’s various aspects and then of course there’s there’s the devotional pieces and there’s Mantra and there’s meditation Mayo there’s a lot of auspices so here’s the thing is it and I love your question because you know the David Gordon white rights and I think it’s called the kiss of the Oconee that the difference between Neo Tantra and classical Tantra is that Neo Tantra is ritualized sex where classical Tantra is sexualized ritual well that is a big stinky yeah yeah need to be all aspects of it had some sexual component it means that we are doing ritual and inside that ritual to increase the potency or to unite more deeply or more parsley we’re going to add a desexualized aspect all right wow that’s so amazing I really like that yeah that that kind of sums it up a lot of the women I talk to who are country codes or are saying to me been if you have the opportunity to initiate a woman in the time sure you should you should refer her into a coven of tantric sisterhood’s where she can actually get purified of all of the douchebags she’s been fucking in her that you know Daddy Issues on stuff and then if she’s interested after that if she hasn’t totally changed her life path and she still is he not attracted to you then will you know arrange something for the both of you chaperoned you know what I mean that would be the the highest standard of Ethics that I could hold myself to with that you know the spirit of that idea of just like don’t just be harvesting souls and have a real sloppy scummy kind of you know where is a male practitioner or unit initiate women do if they come to it because they want better sex or they have their there they have whatever issues you know what do you think about those problems in general can opens up set up Pandora’s Box really big topic we can go to a lot of directions with it but here’s what I’ll say absolutely when there is a teacher-student relationship there’s always a the power Dynamic and so it’s important for all parties to be aware of that and naturally a student and aspirin would want to experience what a master is really like you know in in the sexual department so when that it would that opportunity is given to them they are probably going to grab at it and say yes I want to go for it how they feel later on is going to be a whole different story and that’s going to potentially either get the teacher and a lot of deep trouble or or make them all better of a teacher you know and end so there’s a lot of different scenarios and a lot to be said about that and I’ve dealt with it in in my circles many many times and you know obviously consent and various other preparations for something like that are important but here’s what I’ll say is that I would not be the woman that I am today and I would not be the t-shirt that I am today if I had not had sexual experiences with my teachers so I am deeply grateful and appreciative of those experiences because they taught me and gave me a reference point for what energy feels like in my body for how to awaken centers in my brain through my orgasm I wouldn’t have had those I would have no idea what that’s like if I hadn’t had those experiences and so I’m very grateful to them do you ever get that fair enough I kind of feel the same way I mean that’s kind of back-and-forth and it’s because you don’t like I’ve been trying to be the the purified feminist sort of shock to Tantra representative with on a tight leash you know at end as I pursue this cuz I’ve seen the people go through you decades if those pitfalls and I’d certainly you know standing on the backs of giants myself and using opportunities like this intelligently to get the best best practices from people further down the path I am so it was someone who said to me yeah you do women need to initiate Each Other Well what if what if they don’t want to but if they don’t want that. I mean so like what do I do so with that sort of comedy and see at Regal piece set up I’m I’m curious would you let say to you were in a situation where you have like you were Rolodex of masterful tantric men who you have either engaged with yourself or who have good reviews or whatever within your circle they’re sort of trust Trustees of the technology and you were to be a say oh my God I’m starting to sound like a a romance novel hear something but you actually are the Priestess who you know the the the new generation of initiates godino looks up to you to be able to have access but two of basically avoid all these pitfalls and so here’s the Practical question should there be a referee or an observer or somebody keeping things accountable to some level of of like Priestess class ethics and oversight for so that women don’t get mine fucked in like 10 really like spiritually raped by people who have more sort of of a black magic agenda whether they know it or not whether they’re true Sorcerers or they’re just unconscious sorceress Jose I know you’re not exactly a night and I actually love the way you frame to a referee and yes my answer is yes I believe that there should be a I think that that’s an important piece to when when engaging with students to have a another person and that that that the person in power can turn to and say hey I’m looking at connecting with this woman or this man you know nnn what do you think are they stable do you think it would be wise you know I didn’t really get a second opinion and have somebody who who has an unbiased opinion and in fact in an insta and International School Temple Arts you know in our training program at a certain point further down in the training you know that week-long training we open the field and we say what you know everybody can now engage in whatever way that they choose you know you hate your power to say no you’re empowered to call in your boundaries and that includes the facilitators however we won’t make invitation that’s that’s alright that’s our main pieces we will not make the invitation so somebody comes to us with an invitation who wants to connect before we can say yes then we need to go and speak to the other facilitators and that’s how we manage this power Dynamic that otherwise gets trampled on because you know a person and Powers as well you know this cute young hot thing wants to be with the teacher and yeah so we managed it. That’s so fascinating that’s beautiful and I’m so glad to hear that cuz I feel like coming full circle as we’re kind of wrapping up here on time it’s the essence of this whole conversation was where is the fucking Guru who knows how to fucking deal with this shit because this is serious shit you know and that that would be there maybe needs to be a security deposit or sort of like a you know I kept thinking I’d like an AA sponsor or something somebody who’s further down the path who’s trusted to make wiser decisions than you if you’re just starting at the bat and there doesn’t seem to be for a variety of reasons you know I just hear nothing but horror stories from young women who go to a meet up and just get I fucked by some Demon you know is whether it’s the teacher or just some sketchy dude off the street who could afford you know this relatively affordable way to buy something that was never to be sold really in that way many of us have been walking this path for a long time we’ve seen a lot of things just like what you’re explaining and we’re figuring ways out to get around that because we will not stop connecting when people want to connect with teacher we don’t believe that it’s a wrong path we just need to know how to do it the right way and there are those of us who are carving a path for that will thank you so much I can’t tell you what time we this is you know well I really feel the spirit just really beautiful Vibes with reconciling that cuz it can tear you apart I mean I’ve been nice I’d say I’ve been celibate most of my adult life just out of fear of being that guy you know and being that guy with Tantra is like being that guy on steroids if you know if you’re if you’re doing it wrong you know so well do you want to talk about your offerings now you know where people can find you and certainly how to connect and all that good stuff website is ecstatic awareness.com ecstatic awareness.com but that’s going to change in a few weeks I’m rebranding everything it’s going to move to my name Tree on become Aviv, I’m really excited about that I’m writing a book it’s going to be a foreman for soulful men sexuality for the Soulful man to reach out to me just go to my way my two websites for spitting on when you hear this and and reach out to me and we’ll just jump on the phone together and and see what you’re looking for what you need I’m happy to spend some time with you and and see how I can serve you and support you awesome thanks so much so and do you have any other final words or advice you like to share final words come talk to me if you’re curious about what I’ve said here you know reach out to me through my website find me on Facebook and and let’s have a conversation because if you’re curious about this path I’m happy and Overjoyed to be able to share awesome well thank you again so much I really appreciate it and all the work and play and effort you put into establishing yourself in this world and being a strong empowered voice and I really can’t thank you enough so yeah I have a great night and he’s got a www.hunterfan.com can cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help us out a permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. 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