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Sacred Pole Dancing with Makeda Smith TPP52

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Photo of Makeda by: Jhana Parits #ShotbyJhana, collage art by Tantra Punk

In this episode I discuss the art form and spiritual path of sacred pole dancing with Makeda Smith a high priestess of the pole dancing community and successful self-made entertainment industry publicist.

To learn more please read her bio below and visit her websites:

From http://flyingover50.com/

Blessings ~ After operating my pr agency, Jazzmyne Public Relations for over 20 years I crashed financially in 2008, losing about a dozen real estate properties, my house, my cars, my dog and my man. But I Am still here and the pole as been an instrumental axis sustaining me.

I started poling when I turned 50. I am 55 now and getting younger by the moment. I hope to inspire people, but especially women and particularly older women, because it is true, we can do any thing we put our minds, heart and spirit into!

Visit my pr agency site at www.jazzmynepr.com

And also please take a spin at Pole World News – we write a monthly column there !

Makeda ~

Let’s dance dammit!

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello David Lebovitz welcome to Township on podcast episode number 52 I’m doing a Skype interview here with Makita Smith who is going to Enlighten us and tell us all about her life and practice of sacred pole dancing which has some synchronicities in my life that that I’ll mention briefly before we get started with basically I’ve been called to bring my Tantra training instructor and counselor training to practice in Las Vegas and some people would say it’s you know the pain away it’s the belly of the beast of the place that needs the most sexual healing and Enlightenment and where there’s the most power to transmute the wealth of the billionaires of the world who come here to experience sex defied women kind of porn if I had sex if I’d women in in so icky leverage point to begin to reverse that those patterns of abuse and exploitation I have a huge shadow what betta breeding the candle to the darkness and bring some sacredness to the to the community here so that was my my long intro to kind of frame this and so Makita I would love for you to go wild and tell us your whole life story and how you got to on this path cuz you’re definitely a high priestess of the Sacred pole dancing bless you and thank you and bless you and have a say thank you for finding me on the web and having me on your show and that’s like amazing synchronicity just like wow I’ve been pole dancing for 5 years now I started at the age of 50 and I just turned 55 and it’s been the most amazing adventure ever I am a pole at it years ago that I will be pole dancing in my fifties if I had gone to agree there and he told me I was in my fifties I never ever ever would have believed it that was just sounded like the most craziest thing in the world sometimes I even look at my pictures and my video of me told dancing and it just blows my mind something that’s totally transcendental okay so how did I get started on pole dancing to pole how did I even come across pole dancing yeah and if you want the other the kind of background on your career path in public relations I run my business for almost 30 years I think it’s 28 years now and I’ve always had a home-based operation I’ve never been to the office, not to work so when I started my business I was a single parent mom I was working for someone else and I decided I wanted to spend more time at home with my child by the side start working at home and interesting thing is this was back in 1988 people told me I was crazy and see if you can’t work from home your Hollywood publicist you have to be on SunSetter Hollywood Boulevard is this will never work and now here it is almost 30 years later and it’s the trendiest things working home everyone works at home everyone wants to work at home businesses pay you to work at home and then I didn’t know what I was doing getting out with norm and I say that because I always feel like I’ve been like ahead of my time and kind of a trendsetter and so was also kind of the same thing with pole dancing like my started pole dancing like yours for like crazy lady have you lost your mind and now here it is 5 years later and people like you are contacting me to be interview yeah so it’s pretty cool okay so I’ve been a problem since I have two daughters I raise doing publicity I work in the entertainment business so I’ve always been a little freaking out of the box because you know the in whole entertainment feel this kind of just out there No Holds Barred in 2008 I experienced what is that the Dark Night of the Soul has lasted for about I think it lasted for about 2 years I have been turned off into the real estate market he always going well if I bet you’d off in the real estate and I was doing really good in real estate and actually I actually own 12 real estate investment properties life was just Grand and then long story short the market crashed oh my God I crashed with it I say I was a queen who lost her entire Empire I lost everything my man who I thought was the love of my life literally walked out on me and never looked at my house. Ford close the IRS audit file for bankruptcy my car got repoed I have to give my my by trustee dog my Rottweiler Jaja a way like I live in the hit rock bottom I was literally homeless I had to go stay with relatives and friends and try to rebuild my life it was the most traumatic thing I really seriously contemplated leaving the planet but I told myself I couldn’t leave the planet one because I had daughters and I couldn’t just deserve them and to I knew I rested on the shoulders of ancestors with God through much more and if they survived I just had to survive so every day I will wake up and stay in Still I Rise what was the hardest thing I ever did I don’t know turn in a role in my life you know where the only I’ve always had the Creator I’ve always had the most high but this was like this is like a real test because I really had nothing but God God is like nothing literally nothing I can’t even explain it was like it was really that dark night of the Soul where you don’t have anything at all you can do is just resting God okay so I end up losing my home which was out in the desert Antelope Valley in quartz Hills and I had to come I haven’t I move back to LA and I actually ended up living in living in the city of Hollywood I’ve never lived in Hollywood have always just on the outskirts of Hollywood so this was traumatic for me baby in the belly of the beast in Hollywood living off of Hollywood Boulevard in an apartment apartments in like 30 years old my God talk about trauma bestow like oh my God angels I know you’re with me while I’m walking down the street but why and how did I get here life of living in Hollywood like you said in Vegas when you’re actually in the belly of the Beast what was it on Vine between Hollywood and Vine which is more famous popular Hollywood Street because I walk everywhere when I was looking at Hollywood and this was like an Angelic experience I’m walking down the street Hollywood is really crazy and buzzing buzzing and bubbling and dance this woman she’s older white woman and she’s like she’s got to be like in her sixties or something right she’s she’s doing splits on the sidewalk and there’s a photographer taking pictures of her and she has blonde hair and she and I want Pastor and God oh my God she’s so cute and she so fabulous like she’s walking next like she’s walking next to me like you know you just walking down and she’s next to me and I go oh my God and she and I started this whole conversation my name is Mada Mada and Makita are derivatives of the same name that’s the first Xfinity she was 73 at the time my God she told me that she started poldent know she started excuse me she’s sorry yoga in her forties and that’s why she was still limber and had her youthful effervescence appearance to this day and I can’t oh my God size classes and get my life maybe I need to go to almost in my 50s some like it’s not too late maybe maybe I should look into yoga anyway she and I became friends but still friends to this day and Shiba left me while we were on the corn is hawking before we exchange numbers she told me that when did she tell me my name Makita meant infinite meant forever youthful Everlasting and when she said that to me like it really felt like the angel speaking to me through her and I just started crying I was like oh my God I’m sitting here on the corner of like Hollywood and Vine in tears Kristin Francy to say she’s over in English but because of her I went to take a yoga class the last time I had taken of yoga class was when I was in school in Boston like in my 20 so I can see yoga class it was cool but it was like a whole hour of yoga Namaste Yoga is boring but I got to find something else and one of those Living Social Groupon deal for pole dancing to mine I have a client if you might actually want to interview him in the future you are amazing my science is his name is hypnotika and hypnotika lives in San Diego and he also runs a gentleman’s club and I remember I was doing some PR for him and I was at his gentlemen’s club and I remember watching one of the strippers and she just blew my mind she was like oh my God I was just like this woman is a living goddess up there on a pole doing magic and I was like looking at her when tuning into her and saying oh my God to be able to do that must be amazing like I can ask I would never be able to do that in a hundred years right and I was like I don’t know what the heck let me go take a class I can afford it it’s a Groupon if I only take one class is really no money lost I went and took that class and I was hooked from the first class I was just hope there was like I hate to make this analogy but it was like if somebody takes a drug in a drug is so good they just got to go back and get more of that class was like oh my god I’ve got to come back and take more pole dancing classes where has this been all my life is just it just a terribly opened up something inside me nobody knows Capricorns we’re driven it was kind of you know we we we went once we put our mind on something we have to do it we have to conquer it we have to be the best of it so most people probably take Cole dancing classes once a week I went on between LivingSocial and Groupon I found every pole dancing schupan I could find for the next year old classes a week and I I did it totally off of living social Groupon and I didn’t the different Studios all around La and I was upset and it was only fits it just gave me life because one the living social deals made it affordable for me cuz I’m still regrouping from losing everything and to it just gave me life I was in the Beast of the belly trying to figure out what the heck is going on I’m a queen whose lost her Empire and I’m trying to find my way and pole dancing as an exercise as an art as a religion it kind of got a pass because it was considered art well does it have to be considered art for it to be okay or not can it be something other than ours but still pictures of of naked people and pictures of naked people doing particular things whatever that may be even if someone or many or most people might not consider that art does that mean that it’s now no longer okay and no longer permitted or can it still be permitted even though you wouldn’t call it art does art have to be the standard by which something is being pornographic or erotic or just accepted right I think that’s getting into that Miller test standard that doctrine of it’s it’s it’s not obscenity if it can be proved to be artistic and or educational or having some cultural value and that’s this kind of is as as much of a of a precise tool is is is that you can get I guess with that Miller test but yeah and even with that just on its face that could be Gene to include everything because seeing anything that you haven’t seen before has an educational component to it oh I’ve never seen this before maybe it’s okay to do that or now I see this in that’s not something that I want to do that’s not something that I think is something that would feel good to me to do or to have someone do to me or for me to do to someone else so why don’t want to do that but it’s now out of the closet and I one of the things especially in this last decade and especially the last few years as a sexual orientation and sexual identity have come into the Forefront of of color of Western culture certainly but across the across the worlds as well and also the political Spectrum as homosexuality has been been increasingly accepted and gay marriages are now legal in many states and people are also looking not only at homosexuality but transexuality or whatever whatever terminology you want to use for that that wouldn’t be offensive because that too is a burgeoning area where many people are offended by certain term so I I’m sorry if any of the terms that I that I’ve said my sound defensive to someone but it’s just about someone sexuality and what is it is that okay can that be out of the closet can we accept it does it to be regarded and tossed as dirty and unacceptable and other kinds of sex negative and identity identity negative things these are all things that we’re wrestling with and none of them are easy sounds like we need people like you being the guidance counselor and therapist for families at that level more than legislation that just forces things underground because as long as people have a demand for whatever is out there it’s going to be produced on the black market you know no matter what so and you know there’s there’s a they call it the the shadow internet or the others all that accessibility there so I think I think we definitely agree on all of his stuff so if let’s just say kind of walking through you have a family coming in there and you know that the teenage boy is experiencing erectile dysfunction and sort of unable to bond and make human romantic age appropriate connection because of a addiction to whatever you want to call it but a mediated form of sexual access right and so let’s hold on their addiction and that totally muddies the water that’s and if she has an addiction I’m sorry if he has an erectile dysfunction that’s based on some kinds of sexual addiction there’s kind of a contradiction in that so I would have to find out more about that and then to understand that better I’d have to inquire with him as much as I can while the parents aren’t there to inhibit what he’s going to tell me of what he sees as an erectile how he understands it how he defines it what his view of what’s normal is our end is that an accurate view of what’s normal and to be expected or not and by the same token what is this thing he’s talking about as some kind of addiction to pornography and what are the behaviors that are involved in that and how does he understand how that may be connected or may not be connected to what he’s talking about with some kind of erectile dysfunction those are not all straight lines there are winding paths and we have to follow the path if we are going to understand the person that were talking to if I’m going to understand the person I’m talking to you no hear my office is in Beverly Hills but I see people from all over there some people who were from next door there are other people who drive an hour in 2 hours to get to me so there’s no there’s no quick and simple answer about the people that I’m seeing and it being a select group it’s really a Melting Pot of people and I can’t make the assumptions about who you are unless I talk to them and that’s where I start is help me to understand you my my focus says I’m working with people is not trying to teach them though I know there are psychologist and psychotherapist who to focus on teaching people my focus is more on helping people to understand them and helping people to sort out what’s going on in their mind and how that connects to their life experience their understandings of themselves in the world of their relationships with other people and who they can be who they can’t be what to expect in the world so that’s where where I start with people is helping them to to let me know who they are and and that certainly applies with all issues about sex and sexuality and images of sex and sexuality okay well yeah thank you for that I’m feeling your your approaches it feels like if we all had that level of care and concern in and space to really create our own narratives that would be a way to solve a lot of our own problems with the bit of help so I appreciate that approach and that was kind of the sort of statistical archetypal stereotype of what’s of what how how you know several of the factors of how young men and boys are being harmed by something that they’re not that they actually end up being very uncomfortable with and want to seek help for inner creating their own sources for that there’s the nofap movement I’m not sure if you’ve heard of that but through set of what it’s coming down to is the extreme you know negative outcome of excessive use according to their own you know their own gauge of it and then if we look at I’ll just give you another kind of case study type example but the other equation for consumio young consumers of pornography young consumers erotic media getting there to leave the pornography tournament the door thank you email to talk about sexual images andronic images but that doesn’t mean that they are pouring and then it’s a question of what are the images the people are looking at you know there are there’s a lot of stereotype of those images are being filled with violence and leading to violence but that’s only a very small segment of what’s out there in the world of sexual imagery whether it’s videos or Stills and and the same thing with with rose there’s a whole world of sexual images that are all about love and are about sex being shown in very loving tender and unsatisfying ways but often that doesn’t get into the dialogue around porn was looking at the let’s say the Straight female certified sexual initiation process which happens to everyone and so a complaint that’s heard often is that you know I’m a teenage girl and all the boys are essentially behaving like they’re possessed and all they want to do is you know penetrate my anus in a way that has no real train skill or care concern or lubrication or all of the things that would be considered best practice is to explore that area and then they’re like this is a porndemic because I can’t find a young male to you know deflower me who I don’t feel really terrified by what’s going on in erotic imagination so is that something that you have had to answer questions about or deal with or confront cuz that’s the other sort of end of the spectrum of harm that’s certainly there and that then raises the question where do people get their sex education from where they get their sex education from about what’s normal and what if what they see on the internet is the only place that they are are learning about sex and that’s a very skewed you about what sex is what sex should be and there’s something about that that needs to be changed not from birth on the internet but to bring other people to to those kids education and part of part of that has to do with most of the sexual imagery that’s online is there for males and there’s not that of sexual imagery without fear for females so it certainly there but people do have to be looking for it more and for many of the boys growing up who who see sex on the internet that’s what they often might see but that doesn’t mean that that’s what’s normal and they’re also places on the internet where they can get more loving for Trails how that can be done and whatever sex acts someone might be looking for or inquiring but another part of this which I don’t want to just let Slide by under dress has to do with your talkin about the girls responses to to the boys I efforts to have sex and what they’re wanting and that has to do with what boys and girls and what adolescents grow up with about their own sexuality and what’s normal and what’s not normal and what’s okay and what’s not okay we’re still in a time when adolescents have the mindset that that boys should be the ones to initiate girl should not initiate and that puts all of the burden on on the boys and it sets up a dynamic between the boys and the girls wear and what kind of like you said the girls are saying well all he wants is to have sex and he wants to have it this way well let’s start with you all he wants is to have sex part and so why isn’t there more of an equality between boys and girls where they’re both wanting to have sex and they’re both seeing sex as something positive from an early age because the alternative is that is too kind of demon eyes the boys for wanting to have sex and the girls aren’t really wanting sex they’re just wanting to be loved and that is a whole dynamic between boys and girls between men and women that I think is really important part of all of these relationships that we need to take another look at it I mean it was addressed many years ago in certainly in the psychological literature one of the people that was looking at that was Wilhelm right back in the 30s about the sex negative view that was in society and there’s your dad still there we haven’t really gone all that far from that especially compared to how we think we’ve come miles and miles but it’s really only a few feet right like you’re saying there’s so many unspoken hidden Frameworks that are not being addressed like you know how to speak from experience when I was when I was a boy coming-of-age into my hormonal sexual self I was afraid to go up and write something on the chalkboard or point something out in the map because I had a tent pole in my pants cuz I was very turned on by the teacher or somebody else in the class and there was no masturbation room to go take care of myself at home or at school so we’re just not designing for this energy to flow through our cultures and you were living with the fear of being exposed as being a sexual / and being ridiculed for it in ways that girls never work but that’s the typical experience of growing up mail right and having as a dynamic between males and females in that very tender. Of age right so we’ve got a few minutes left I really appreciate your insights and I think I’m at a point where I feel like the way to frame this discourse is that it’s pouring is not a Public Health crisis or public health hazard sexual holistic sexuality education is in the lack thereof is the Public Health crisis and exactly more of the Public Health crisis is about sexual repression sexual oppression about teaching teaching people generally but especially teaching girls that sex is dirty and teaching girls that boys are bad for wanting to have sex that if everyone kind of grew up on an even playing field of seeing sex as positive seeing love is positive and being able to talk together about about those things to talk together about love to talk together about sex to talk together about what you want and what you don’t want and that’s okay we will be in a very different environment than we are today there is to be a new political office of a quote horns are not to be confused with torrent star that person was to be open-minded enough to take some direction and possibly offer to hire you to consult what kinds of programs designs no just outlines you know big picture thinking you know if you were to be able to be respected for what you’re saying and it is a we want to address the issue of institutionalized sexual repression in so where do we begin to unravel that not this is just that you know food for thought and I think one of the places is to redefine the title and take pouring out of the picture but it’s not about pouring it’s about sexuality and sexual acceptance and how can we how can we bring sexual acceptance into the public dialogue and into into the educational system and into into the kind of dialogue that parents have with your kids that that seems to me to be a big part of that role of Tsar do I don’t know that that’s the right term but to to change the language that we talked about these things so we’re not talking about about about it with sex negative sex by a sex pejorative kind of language that skews things from the gecko and set and sets us up to lose from the very start right to the simple statement sexual aggression is the product of sexual repression so it’s going to come out in pouring it’s going to come out on prom night all of that pent-up frustrated aggressive certified you want to call it Satanic call it Satanic whatever you want to call but you can have to bring the light to the darkness and and get some help with that so I think the case is closed and I really appreciate what we’ve accomplished in this call setting some new terms for discourse and really putting the the family and the family therapist in the community and the school teachers more in a position of of leadership than political Lake litigation legislation and political offices so what I would add to that is in terms of where you started is to encourage parents know themselves to be honest with themselves to be honest with their own prejudices and biases to be honest with their own fears to be honest with their own misconceptions so they don’t pass them along to kids and to be able to listen to kids more than they talk to kids and to be able to have a dialogue rather than a lecture with their kids and that changes the relationship between parents and kids and helps kids to grow and to feel accepted beautiful beautiful all right thank you dr. schub so much and if you want to give your contact information so people can start to seek your help sure you can find me at actor Karl subs.com that d r c a r l s h u b s or one string calm and phone number is 310-772-0520 that’s local here in Beverly Hills great thank you so much have a wonderful day take care you to thanks very much. Please go to www. R2park.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess Temple that provide ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Com Damas de

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tp-why-men-need-goddess-temples In this episode I read a short essay I wrote listing and describing ten reasons why men need goddess temples.

1. Initiation into the loving arts
2. Healing and reintegration for soldiers
3. Healing and restoration for abuse survivors
4. Growing and maintaining long term relationships
5. Opportunities for holistic service work
6. Face-to-face non-commercial social space
7. Local organic market gardening
8. A home for a renaissance of feminine festivals and ceremonies
9. Prevention of predation
10. Rehabilitation for perpetrators

 

Why Men Should Worship Goddesses TPP50

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politics-picIn this episode I read an article I wrote for the Good Men Project all about why men should worship goddesses.

It is my belief that the greatest tragedy in the religious history of the world has been the hatred, fear, and suppression of the divine aspect of divinity.

I believe that modern patriarchal societies have been violently cut off from the divine mother goddess. I hope that a paradigm shift is coming soon, I hope to be instrumental in this feminine redemption of the world soul.

 

Evil Fills a Vacuum of Love TPP49

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evil-fills-smallIn this episode I read a combination of adapted excerpts from the ancient Mahanirvana scriptures, the Tantra of Great Liberation and chapter 16 of the Bhagavad Gita.

I wish I would have been introduced to these practical instructions much sooner in life, I would have avoided many situations that left me vulnerable to demonic attack.

The background track “Cycles” was graciously provided by MGK please follow his work here:
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heart-finity copyI’m joined again by MFP and we give an update on her re-entry into the dating world now fully equipped with tantric laws, principles, and guidelines for higher conscious love.

We discuss the effectiveness of the lover license test and how she’s been able to apply a more disciplined approach to setting timelines and boundaries for intimacy.

We both work to understand and develop best practices and strategies to protect our hearts and bodies as we progress on our mutually supportive journeys.

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved’s welcome to Township on podcast episode number 47 I’m here again with magic fucking pussy and we thought it would be a good time to give kind of an update on what we have learned as we’ve both been attempting to practice the well attempting to live by the best practices as outlined in the lovers license test because we both should know better so we’re going to put ourselves on the hot seat and tell all here so hello MFE welcome back thanks for having me in the discussion so when we did that when we went through the lovers license test together I would say we were both in attempting to experience new and in different loves in our lives our formal chapter who had been you know we decided to I guess one of you want to just say in your words how you want to describe like the the peaceful non breakup disillusion of our are sort of a sacred contract and maybe yeah well that’s exactly what it is we we never broke up where we never formed control boundaries or terms either which was new to me I never met anybody like you at that was so open-minded to the concept of relationships and what a good relationship and friendship should be and so we talked about how we could be on board with the same ideals and morals what paths we wanted to share together and I believe from the beginning we really just fell in love with each other as human beings are personalities everything we just you know we we really did we just were like I loved you I love your energy to you know and so we took it from there and you educated me on what was going on in the world that I was oblivious to because I in a lot of ways lived in a bubble I did not watch the news I felt like it was all just selling fear and chaos and in my mind I thought it’s all exaggerated you know which system extent it is a lot of it is you know the sad realities that are going on at that are out there and so just being aware of what I could do to make a difference in an appositive Dynamic you know just planting gardens and promoting that and promoting goddess worship because we know the patriarchal system we live in is just clearly not working and so we have lost our routes to Mother Earth and that’s what we need to do right now and I I’m on board with that and I realized coming from Paradise I couldn’t possibly appreciate it the way that somebody could if you didn’t know you were born and raised in a desert and then you go there and I still can’t quite grasp it like that but I appreciate it so much more and I ultimately that’s a lifestyle I want to embrace you know in the end and if I choose to have children which I am I’m not quite sure yet it would have to be the perfect partnership and if I did that’s where I want their routes to Spring from awesome and I support this prayers and intentions and because I know that your destiny to have a a beautiful very tight loving family structure and knowing that that’s your attention I’ve always wanted to support that and just ensure that you have the best selection of the finest stallions to choose from and because the world is we’re so close to really me and my International League Of Time sheikah colleagues men with women and otherwise we’re getting so much closer to a real needed Paradigm Shift where are the qualities that that we’re working on ourselves and trying to make you were making really good money teaching other people couples and singles you know how to fall in love madly with themselves first fall in love with nature fall in love with the Divine masculine and feminine energies and then be able to be net producers of blissful peaceful loving energy that’s calming and reassuring to people who are still lost in their egos and it’s like the people who are going to encounter the most of the time lost are going to be lost in their egos and really just really filled with baggage that they don’t know how to deal with they don’t have very little if any skills to really consciously work through that material so that they can be in their Essence more often and more of the time and be giving and showing up with that loving Essence their own interactive entity’s is the true meaning of Namaste days to see the Divine reflected in another as it is within you so so weak yeah we spent quite a bit of very deep intensive devotional time together studying practicing the Arts healing each other inside and out you know and and then I would say we completed quite a bit of that work and then and then your you expressed your intention to start to pray in that more stable permanent monogamous or monogamish lifelong partner who would be fertile and would give you the option to create a family and and I’m totally supportive of that and then as you began to pursue you know potential start accepting applications you know again going on dating websites and whatnot. starting to seek out that that that one man that one man who with is perfectible let’s say if she is perfectible willing to be is perfectible and willing to be perfected based on tantric wise I mean lots of not was punishable by any kind of you know punitive legal structure per se but just lies more like the laws of physics where it’s like you know he puts create heaven on Earth let’s let’s dissolve hell on Earth by peacefully by creating heaven on Earth that’s kind of a you know and I’ve been working on these Notions of like he will fill the vacuum of love so that’s one not it’s not a a scriptural or a Judicial law it’s like a natural law or no law of how these Dynamics work so we can harmonize and design with these constants of you reversal law and get better results manifesting our truest desires when we are able to identify them so yeah we had always been clear it really I think what we got more and more clear how diverging our paths were you know we attempted for a time to it really make them well explore the synergies basically authentically honestly explore the synergies put together vision boards that you know work for both of us and and follow a path until you know things you know change and so we just left a very open and and and very adaptable to the moment and ultimately our futures have really diversion terms of what we both want and need and in what we’re being called to do and more and more as I realize I’m being called to be a ninja out there organizing in the in the pan sexual world and in the gay world and bringing Tantra there and devoting being of service there sexually emotionally you know in order to be part of the my own vision and prophecy to Perma fi and psychedelicized gay world like that’s you know something I’m called to do also more and more being called to create spiritual pornography and so more and more I realized it’s it’s too much to ask a person who wants to be more settled down to like be on board with that even if it’s a lot of could be a lot of fun it was just a different diverging paths and so as you said we didn’t break up because there was no cheating or lying or Madness or jealousy or possessiveness or obsessiveness anything like that there was a very graceful you know shift in energy as yet we’ve been able to sustain a sacred friendship and been able to support each other’s you no affection and it adoration needs whenever it’s appropriate given our configurations of other people so we have been living by those principles and we have been I think role-modeling a new and better and maybe in an ancient fight A Renewed sort of resurrected pathway is Friends helping friends stay fully loved so that as they go out into the sexual romantic Marketplace they’re not desperate or needy and therefore not making poor decisions and have the resilience and the strength and the the love reserves to let lower vibrational people Just Bounce right off like quicker and quicker without digging their meat Hooks and without causing using manipulative tactics to get somebody vulnerable and weekend so I’ve been you know psych if I know that you’re here for me in some capacity and you know I’m wherever I am for sure then we’re less acceptable and we can also support each other and as we’re going through drama with other people who were trying to initiate onto a path of higher conscious love and it’s not it’s pretty can get pretty gory and ugly and crazy and in sad sometimes and there’s you know there’s a glorious moments to share and there’s like horrific moments to share so that’s what we’re going to get into a little bit for a while here is kind of an update on like what we’ve been doing with our love lives since we were very focused very much exclusively on each other and then starting to Branch out and having some cycles that we’ve been through so anything so why don’t you start and share what have you how how is being countrified by the works I’ve run into your life make alter your course of action as you you know move forward in your love life oh well I actually just want to take a moment to say that I so admire your heart and your desire to beautify this planet we need more of you out there and it makes me love you even more and I will always support you and you always have the room with the queendom you know that and so just because I tend to like joke I joke around all the time and say that I’ve been brainwashed into monogamy because I didn’t know there were other options out there growing up and so it just feels the most comfortable for me because I think of it as something that’s that is sacred to me it feels a little bit more I just exclusive I don’t want to say exclusive I want to say it’s just special somehow but again that Speedo Me growing up with fairy tales and you know in the man and the woman and live happily ever after you know just the two of them they never include another guy named Bob or a girl named trophy or whoever heard you know so yeah so it became clear I believe in my first mushroom trip. I saw how we had no excuse me our first mushroom trip together so it became clear that I saw all of the other String Theory realities and it almost like look like branches of arms and legs coming off of me that each Direction and each action I took went down a different path of just spiraling little realities and I saw how we had the potential to become great healers together if we so choose and made all the right choices in that an alignment of that path and at the same time it meant soccer face and it wasn’t wrong I was just I could just see it so I had was detached from the emotion of this is my destiny it wasn’t like that it was just this is a possibility and that’s possibility and there you go and there’s another and you know you know Shust and it’s so I just I want the option to have a family I’m not 100% but I want the option to live with what I feel has been my whole life you know dream of meeting the prince charming and you know all of that I’m sorry I did Crest but anyway it’s just new tactics in new filters and although you we both know it’s kind of unrealistic yes here’s the thing about that is that I hear ago or two years ago I would have not forgot those answers correct and that’s for me and you know I know that there were tricky and I was not that open-minded and being an Aries it is a personality trait that we’re kind of controlling and possessive and I’ve been like that I’ve wanted to beat the guy to the punch and leave him before he left me hurt him before he’s hurt me and then I realized how you know. As functional that kind of thinking is and I stopped it but on autopilot I made a mess of my life and I went down the wrong path and I’ve learned from them and so I know that if I meet somebody that I have great chemistry with and I can see the best potential of them they don’t have to be at 9 today as long as they have the potential okay cat trying to get in the door he can open doors cuz I was saying I have the ability to meet someone and see the best potential them possible they can be a little overweight or underweight and I can look right through that attitude doesn’t deter me I I know what they’re capable of I know that if their mind frame is you know right and they’re willing to make the best of themselves and do you know if they’re willing to do things for me and I say and they’re logical and I say hey we need to take care of our Temple better are you I’m bored let’s make this fun do we need to have more sex or is sex going to be a treat after the jog up the mountain and you know that kind of thing so kind of interview someone and see whether you know they can be the best they can be worth their just you know not willing they’re not really but not willing I’m a lazy person to know judge have fun you know so my Adventures my episodes with dating have been a lot of phone interviews and then I I could tell whether the chemistry fizzled right away and then I didn’t need to invest any of either of our time into a meeting I met one Lebanese man handsome man a little overweight didn’t care you know no biggie I love to eat Taro you know here I was concerned because I didn’t know much about Lebanon about the culture and I was thinking oh that they were more of a I don’t know controlling male society and that women had less rights and so I really kind of grilled him about that and he told me that they spoil the women the men were very romantic and I told him why I’m an American woman and my ideas of a relationship might differ from yours and he assured me like oh I’m not controlling I would let you be you and you know he was successful in his business he had a business in the movie production I guess you would call it and then went to the chief Pacific but he was very successful and told me basically if you were my woman then I would fly around and you could do whatever you wanted and if you want to stay home you could and at everything on paper looks great and I thought if he is so in love with me that I could do whatever I wanted that I could build Gardens and use this money that obviously if there’s you know chemistry I would never condone myself or anybody using another person if there is not love their but I saw how he doted on me and I felt like there was some potential for you know a great relationship a great lover here and at the same time and this is just talking this is just you know meeting for a drink you know we we had plans to cook together I was talking to other men at the time and I lean toward another male and and I let him know right away I said you know I just feel more of a connection with this man he he just said I laughed more honestly it was just more of a cultural connection to that I whenever I was on the phone with him I laughed more at butterflies at all that and so I was honest with him right away and he was really upset he said basically he was hurt that he didn’t realize I was talking to anyone else I said that told me like that was a cultural difference of dating just because we had met and we spoke on the phone and exchanged you know texts you know maybe not even every day every other day he was said you know I can’t believe you’re talking to somebody else while you’re talking to me so I thought that was a real good yeah a red flag that I I bypass The Suitor number one and and his downfall despite his better qualities and everything and so will yeah feel free to be as elaborate as you want about these things cuz we’re going to identify the patterns and we’re going to help men who listen to this I mean every man who fails should catch up on all these podcast so he can do better next time that’s the whole point of what we’re doing because it’s the thing that asinine behavior of mostly men and we’ll get to the women’s part when I talk to her you know what I’ve been going through but and we’re not perfect either we have our shadows and we’re going to disclose our shadow material as we go along but yeah so let’s this is a teachable moment list let’s say that something that we’re discovering as we monitor your suitors behavior and your kind of running things by me as a filter soundboard for things that are happening like I’m noticing this tendency for guys to think that you know once they get in the race of sake you don’t show up it’s not like just because you get allowed to participate in the race doesn’t mean you get to like slash the tires of all the other cars that are there in the race and just because you get there you should like when the race because you got there and you maneuvered you know surreptitiously to put your competition out of business know what you should do is know that you’re in the running now you got picked up but you’re not the only contestant here so the thing to do is to if you’re smart like put some effort into suppressing your lower less presentable Tendencies like hyper possessiveness and trying to impose you know just having a to do you know of being butthurt and stuff it’s like this why I keep hearing it’s not the first one to to be behaving in a manner that is like really a turn off because you’re just trying to have fun with people let them know that they’re going to have to like spend some time becoming friends spend some time can you make it more than a few days or weeks or hopefully months without having an episode that makes me realize you’re just a little boy in there are learning about sex and that’s a very skewed you about what sex is what SEC should be and there’s something about that that needs to be changed not from what’s on the internet but to bring other people to to those kids education and part of part of that has to do with most of the sexual imagery that’s online is there for males and there’s not that much of a of sexual imagery that’s out there for females though it certainly there but people do have to be looking for it more and for many of the boys growing up who who see sex on the internet that’s what they often might see but that doesn’t mean that that’s what’s normal and they’re also places on the internet where they can get more love for Trails of how that can be done and whatever sex acts someone might be looking for or inquiring but another part of this which I don’t want to just let Slide by underdress has to do with your talkin about the girls responses to to the boys efforts to have sex and what they’re wanting and that has to do with what boys and girls and what adolescents grow up with about their own sexuality and what’s normal and what’s not normal and what’s okay and what’s not okay we’re still in a time when adolescents have the mindset that that boys should be the ones to initiate girl should not initiate and that puts all of the burden on on the boys and it sets up a dynamic between the boys and the girls wear and what kind of like you said the girls are saying we’ll all he wants is to have sex and he wants to have it this way well let’s start with you all he wants is to have sex part and so why isn’t there more of an equality between boys and girls where they’re both wanting to have sex and they’re both seeing sex as something positive from an early age because the alternative is that is too kind of demon eyes the boys for wanting to have sex and the girls aren’t really wanting sex they’re just wanting to be you loved and that is a whole dynamic between boys and girls between men and women that I think is really important part of all of these relationships that we need to take another look at I mean it was addressed many years ago in shortly in the psychological literature one of the people that was looking at that was Wilhelm right back in the 30s about the sex negative view that was in society and there’s much of that it’s still there we haven’t really gone all that far from that especially in compared to how we think we’ve come miles and miles but it’s really only a few feet right like you’re saying there’s so many unspoken hidden Frameworks that are not being addressed like you know when I was out to speak from experience when I was when I was a boy coming-of-age into my hormonal sexual self I was afraid to go up and write something on the chalkboard or point something out in the map because I had a tent pole in my pants cuz I was right turned on by the teacher or somebody else in the class and there was no masturbation room to go take care of myself at home or at school so we’re just not designing for this energy to flow through our cultures and you were living with the fear of being exposed as being a sexual person and being ridiculed for it in ways that girls never were but that’s the typical experience of grown-up mail and having that as a dynamic between males and females in that very tender. Of age right so you know we’ve got a few minutes left I really appreciate your insights and I think I’m at a point where I feel like the way to frame this discourse is that it’s pouring is not a Public Health crisis or public health hazard sexual holistic sexuality education is in the lack thereof is the Public Health crisis and see exactly more of the Public Health crisis is about sexual repression sexual oppression about teaching teaching people generally but especially teaching girls that sex is dirty and teaching girls that boys are bad for wanting to have sex then if everyone kind of grew up on an even playing field of seeing sex as positive seeing love is positive and being able to talk together about about those things to talk together about love to talk together about sex to talk together about what you want and what you don’t want and that’s okay we will be in a very different environment than we are today absolutely exactly so if there is to be a new political office of a quote horns are not to be confused with SmartStart sorry but a pornstar that person was to be open-minded enough to take some direction and possibly offer to hire you to consult what kinds of programs designed so you know just outlines you know big picture thinking you know if you were to be able to be respected for what you’re saying and it is a we want to address the issue of institutionalized sexual repression and so where do we begin to unravel that not this is just you know food for thought to redefine the title and take pouring out of the picture but it’s not about pouring it’s about sexuality and sexual acceptance and how can we how come you bring sexual acceptance into the public dialogue and into into the educational system and into into the kind of dialogue that parents have with your kids that that seems to me to be a big part of that role of Tsar though I don’t know that that’s the right term but to to change the language that we talked about these things so we’re not talking about about about it with sex negative sex by a sex pejorative kind of language that skews things from the get-go and set and sets us up to lose from the very start right statement sexual organ action is the product of sexual repression it’s going to come out and pouring it’s going to come out on prom night all of that pent-up frustrated aggressive certified you want to call it Satanic call it Satanic whatever you want to call but you can have to bring the light to the darkness and and get some help with that so I think the case is closed and I really what we’ve accomplished in this call setting some new terms for discourse and really putting the the family and the family therapist in the community and the school teachers more in a position of of leadership than political will litigation legislation and political offices so in terms of where you started is to encourage parents to know themselves to be honest with themselves to be honest with their own prejudices and biases to be honest with their own fears to be honest with their own misconceptions so that they don’t pass them along to kids and to be able to listen to kids more than they talk to kids and to be able to have a dialogue rather than a lecture with their kids and that changes the relationship between parents and kids and helps kids to grow and to feel accepted beautiful beautiful all right thank you dr. schub so much and if you want to give your contact information so people can start to seek your help sure you can find me at a doctor Carl’s Subs. Com that d r c a r l s h u b s or once drink.com and phone number is 310-772-0520 that’s local here in Beverly Hills great thank you so much have a wonderful day too you too thanks very much thank you for listening to the podcast please go to www.crunch.com and cook on the Donate button to help support the show in addition to sustaining and improving the podcast your donations will help establish permaculture goddess temples every bite ecological employment for single mothers Please Subscribe and share your favorite episodes if you have questions or comments feel free to leave a voicemail at 818-275-1593 or email event at Tantra Punk. Thomas Day

 

Christian Feminist Porn: Pray Hard for the Second Coming TPP46

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 tpp-46-pic In this episode I’m joined by MFP, my lead benefactress in my not-for-profit Christian feminist porn production initiative. She holds supportive space for me to tell a heart and gut wrenching story of my abuse and victimization as a survivor, former sex worker, and adult performer. We then explore a long chain of synchronicities leading to our new dharmic path as spiritual pornographers in service to healing the Earth and resurrecting the divine feminine.

A Romantic Treatise on Tantradelic Exorgasm TPP45

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tp-tantradelic-exorgasm-picThis episode contains a true love story dialog between myself and a beloved dakini. It documents excerpts from our first several weeks of cyber courtship and our mutual exploration of tantra, shamanism, and exorcism.

There are more chapters in this true story that will be published later, and more chapters that have yet to be written.

With help, our visions will come true and we’ll be properly funded to investigate “sex files” world wide.

 

 

Sexual Healing with Psychedelic Goddess Worship Pt2 TPP44

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sexual-healing-with-psychedelic-goddess-worship-pt2-picThis episode is the second of two audio lab reports from my early psychedelic goddess worship sessions where I was guided by a traditional authentic female Kali worshiper and spiritual healer. I document the gory details of this second experimental ceremony, it is a follow up to episode number 2 and contains important elements that were missed in my observations during and reflections after the first session.  For the best context, I recommend listening to episode two first:

https://tantrapunk.com/sexual-healing-with-psychedelic-goddess-worship-tpp02/

Astral Intercourse with a Wrathful Dakini TPP43

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wrathful-dakiniThis episode is the third in a series of audio recorded lab reports from some of my deepest, darkest, most revelatory psychedelic goddess worship sessions. While living at a Goddess temple deep in the woodlands of the Pacific Northwest I was guided to combine shamanic magic mushroom ceremony, sacred psytrance music, and tantric Goddess invocation.

I document my first experience of encountering a human projected wrathful dakini in hyperspace. She ravages me, provides a sexual healing, and illuminates the transcendent majesty of the human sexual anatomy.

Astral Intercourse with Goddess Kali TPP42

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psilosecks picThis episode is the second in a series of audio recorded lab reports from some of my deepest, darkest, most revelatory psychedelic goddess worship sessions. While living at a Goddess temple deep in the woodlands of the Pacific Northwest I was guided to combine shamanic magic mushroom ceremony, sacred psytrance music, and tantric Goddess Kali invocation. Be warned, there are many gory details before the glory.

 

 

 

 

Psychedeliscopic Demon Hatchery Exploration TPP41

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pranic-healing-diagramThis episode is the first in a series of audio recorded lab reports from some of my deepest, darkest, most revelatory psychedelic goddess worship sessions.  While living at a Goddess temple deep in the woodlands of the Pacific Northwest I was guided to combine shamanic magic mushroom ceremony, sacred psytrance music, and tantric Goddess Kali invocation. In this lab report I detail a journey in which a track I was working on took me directly into a demon hatchery on the astral plane. I describe the experience and comment on the implications.

Empowered Love Shadow Work with Shiva Rajaya TPP40

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tp-shiva-rajaya-picIn this episode I’m joined by my cherished tantric superhero Shiva Rajaya. We discuss empowered methods of dancing with the shadows of love and eros. We also discuss the levels of refinement and discpline required to be in a sexual and romantic flow state, beyond typical closed relationship configurations.

 

About Shiva:
Hi! I am Shiva Rajaya (Francisco Bujan), creator of vitalcoaching.com and its content. I offer coaching and tantra sessions, lead workshops and travel the world on wild spiritual adventures I coach, teach, activate, lead by example, merge with the ultimate life force thay sustains us. I give you tools to remove obstacles to total happiness, success or fulfillment of your deep potential. My life is an ongoing exploration and experiment to master my energy, mind and spirit and help others do the same. I love you and look forward to connect with you soon.

http://www.vitalcoaching.com

Sexual Exploitation in Tantra with Devashi Shakti TPP39

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Devashi picThis episode is not a typical interview format. It’s a collaborative discourse on the topic of the sexual exploitation of women in tantra, followed by an extensive exposition detailing my personal ethics, boundaries, procedures, and protocols. Devashi graciously holds a lot of sacred space for me and generously offers insightful critiques that I feel are exquisite gifts to men who are striving to do right as dakas.

Devashi bio:
Dévashi Shakti is an international leader in feminine psycho-sexual development and practical Sacred Feminine wisdom. She has 18yrs experience as a practitioner, confidante and teacher. In her private practise, Dévashi has assisted thousands of women & men to experience awakening of their internal energy, in connection with their heart and spirit. She’s passionate about providing sanctuary spaces for women to learn about their sensuality and sexuality in safe environments, without the ambiguous dynamics often found in the tantric world. Tigress Yoga is the first in the world to offer a tantric based yoga practise designed specifically for woman’s body. Currently Dévashi is doing a PhD in Somatic Psychology, documenting the effectiveness of Tigress Yoga.

Please visit her website and watch the videos linked below for more info and discussion of this topic.

Tigress Yoga
http://www.tigressyoga.com/

Sexual Exploitation of Women in Tantra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne7RkpqesNg

What Evolved Women Are Missing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYYphCd8WuE

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Tantra Punk your guide to sexual Liberation healing and empowerment as a certified Tantra counselor and certified permaculture designer I’m here to help you grow spiritually sexually and ecologically my online and in-person counseling sessions and training programs are price to fit any budget I’m looking forward to helping you design and ever more Divine Life Path please send me an email to Ben at Tantra Punk. Com and our journey together will begin hello dear beloved welcome to Township on podcast I’m here with Shiva rajaya who has recently become one of my top personal heroes in the tundra world because I’ve been following his work and I’m just feeling like we’re all blessed to have him in the world and see what would you be so kind as to give us a bit of a background your journey into Tantra and and how you’re expressing your gift to the world now it says that everything you know if every sexualized is quite a different definition in the way I approach it for me country is a complete path of Life Mastery I go up to the Himalayas to high mountains there to the very source of the Ganges send the route of Tantra yoga and so I give a tantra are really kind of infinite sphere potential and include a whole lot of things that would not appear as tantric to the average person so what we are going to focus on in this discussion which has to do with relationships and sex problem is a small fraction of what I what I focus on in my teaching okay I want you to make that clear so that if they are at least three said they are who are wondering what is my Approach that is the sticky notes only focus on sex you know what I could share he said if I can sex and tantric sex but there is video Fostoria of other topics that we could be covering if there was a need for that I started my journey you know when I was twelve if I came across from school ribando Journey you know I’m getting my own yoga practice joining different Mystery Schools learning about secret languages and I used to be a journalist a long time ago and after to yourself and go Fredonia to stretch or training and I did that for 20 years for truce ahead of fuel mixture of gurus in my life and after that. We share and it around 2,000 2,000 to launch my own coaching practice and start exploring more about personal development tend to different techniques to to upgrade to optimize your mind and are you functioning knife so of course sex is part of us it’s so true an essential aspect of her life Sexual Energy the way we have sex the way we engage it is at the very core of the very root of relationships you know romantic relationships at the very root of marriages so depending on how you play with sexual energy in the qualities that you bring in there is going to have a massive impact in your life so when you look at sex you have you no different approach so different ways of looking at it one of them is through the traditional romantic dream in your phone in love you meet your soulmate you get married you have a family and so on this is the word Lee kind of interpretation of of sex family and relationships the way I look at it it’s is positions sex on a different frequency and I look at sex and the sexual practices engaging with the country club her as an expansion of consciousness so it’s no longer fundamentally about creating story with somebody and building a relationship it’s much more about a spiritual practice that aims at opening your mind in opening of Life two realities that you would not touch otherwise so we use the sexual energy to open your chakras to circulate energy eventually to enter into mystical into orgasmic states that last for you know sometimes days or even weeks depending on how good you are at standing this these practices so those two parallel approaches of having the Romantic dream in the traditional worldly life and the traffic approaching the tantric sex approach I have been in prayer live my life for you know for a long time and now I you know I go to time I record videos I teach a broadcast in my whole life static 82 helping p you know master that lives and again the sexual aspects is a fraction of what I teach you know you have life Mastery the complete life Mastery system contains you know lots of lots of things that have to do with building houses tunable relationships mastering your mind muscle in your body muscle in your relationship to money and the mess your world material yeah I’m at your wealth and ended mastering your relationship to the spirit which is everything that is in invisible everything that has to do with meditation magic with chest with spinach and salmon and Swan religious practices so yeah this is a little bit to contacts I mean and yeah thank you so much says it’s beautiful I really appreciate what you laid out there is so important for people to understand and I really like the way you articulated it in the past about how the spirit of Tantra you could say is coming to the west to work on the second chakra issues cuz that’s where it’s needed the most but it’s only a 1/7 of the shackle diagram you know really so there is some as so much healing is needed there and I’m just so thankful that you’re out there bringing all of those aspects together and helping people progressed to the full holistic picture of self-mastery so something that I was really moved by as I was listening to all of your audio podcast is said you’ve really got a beautiful way of empowering men to understand this dance with their own shadow and with the shadow aspects that can really be alchemize and transmuted into power and and passion and inside and growth potential when dealing with issues that come up in all types of romantic relationships so I know you have some outlines of different sort of characteristics and aspects of the fire of Collie as its Express through your beloved when she’s in a rage. how to hold space for that so do you have a sort of wrap you want to share to give people a bit of that to incite you know what you’re describing they’re dealing with the feminine Shadow Center to the Shadows inside of you when confronted with that this has been happy in the major growth moments in my life of course you know the traditional spiritual practices of sitting down and meditating and practicing yoga and singing mattress and the lights you develop the light body but when it comes to taming you know your demon sent Tim into the deep inside of you the emotional emotional energies that are inside of you when it comes to taming that very often there isn’t much out there that teaches you how to do that so the way very often the Shadows come up or form of Shadows emerging in romantic relationships so imagine that you are a man and you meet this woman and you love her and you start having sex and you start engaging and dance Sunday you start being exposed to aspects of her being that you cannot really comprehend and that’s all going to be either hurtful she might be manipulative she might be lying to you she might be cheating on you she might be you know misleading you giving you false information you might be doing things that you know sometimes piss you off to bring you out of the center and the reason why she’s doing that on a transcendental level or within the country called next to where the fun it is because she becomes Your Shadow trainer it means that she is being used by your spirits by your life by the four that I got in your solution to help you become the full expression of what you can be so imagine that you live close to this Forest right to this tropical jungle and you don’t dare to do going to the Jungle because you have some tigers there you have some dangerous animals and that every time you want to go into this jungle you hesitate to go so this is a metaphor for what’s happening in your life there are certain aspects of your life that you try to suppress because you’re not really comfortable with the powers and the Shadows that are hidden in there so what’s a shadow training what’s a woman that you meet is going to do she’s going to take you by the hand and say come on let’s go and explore the Shadows let’s go and give it a try let’s go and see what we can find and the most women who are your Shadow trainers are not even aware of the rule that you’re playing in your life they will do things out of your instincts in offering their own needs but by doing that they are going to confront you with emotions that might be very challenging you know they can be Immortals of jealousy emotions of neediness emotions of frustration or extreme anger even raged you know and then when you’re confronted with thought you would like what’s what’s really going on and what is going on is that you need to perform your Evolution into complete your solution as a human being you need to be exposed to your shadows and find ways of mastering the Shadows so instead of taking all these romantic challenges seriously you can look at them as an experiment you can say to yourself this is just a training grounds nothing more I’m just training here to become a better person and so the moment your perspective and you see all that has an experiment a zoo life experiments you radically you know where we position yourself and stop looking at it from an interesting perspective on when you have negative emotions Rising instead of trying to run away from them you start witnessing them you start observing them start seeing how they impact on your level of power how they hurt or how to make you feel good then you allow yourself to release them your lawyer stuff to bring in sometimes new techniques in your practices to Yahoo activates the shadows and start reading mastering them the overall goal of food that is for you to become Shadow Master be a master of your Shadow rather than a slave of your shadows and see for most people go through life and every time you’re with the Shadow with you try to run away from from from it while you try to put a lid on it because Society doesn’t value to Shadows you know any motion like sadness or anger I mean if you do sound Psychotherapy maybe you you might be exposed to somebody who gives you the space to be safely exploring this this emotions but when you have a partner and you are certainly extremely sad normally tell your friends are going to sell you should not be sad you say why not why not I can be sad I can I can express the same music as I can feel them and learn from them and see where they take me where does the Sunday’s tequila where does this anger take you because it’s an interesting inspiration so you going to list in a jungle of emotions and energies and by being exposed to certain routes in those challenging Spears you are going to expand your being and what he does is is that fence your emotions potential your energetic potential instead of working with only the light side of your being you start engaging the other aspects and that’s that’s a whole new dimension to your existence traffic sense absolutely yes definitely so as you’re speaking I’m remembering through my life timeline how I use the tantric practices like you say the stuff you do in the Archer armor in your bedroom or whatever you do your personal sort of discipline of mastering your inner space and then when you go out with that conditioning into the real world and then to the the stormy world of relationships they come to your rescue with like I’ve just been able to snap right into some deep pranayama right when I need it and it’s like gives you these cushion or this buffering on reactivity so do you have some some pointers are tips there on what types of practical skills in your solo Tantra practice or or when you’re doing well with a couple like training exercises specifically to give individuals and couples tools to create that that dance space with the shadow material as it comes up unexpectedly if you know what the worst time is it so happens is that if you listen to this with you and you have been exposed to decide your shadows you might be the only wanted in your relationship who is interested in actually working on these things may be your partner are your girlfriend and a wife she might be like you know what I have no idea what you’re talking about. You cannot with you relate to that and every time you start explaining a little bit about it it’s like you lose her in some libraries that are not pretty interesting to her so very often this is going to be the situation you are going to be with the shadow trainer with the woman who doesn’t even know she said she doesn’t know the road that is playing in your life she’s just following her own thing it’s true by Fort Wayne that she’s going to to challenge you so what happens in that situation is that you will need to find techniques that you can apply to yourself only first you have to master your shadows and then try to master the Shadows that are protected within the couple the first is the wrapping techniques for yourself once you master goes techniques for yourself and eventually you can teach them to to your girlfriend to your wife but first is really in her Mastery okay so the technique that uses lots are Dynamic treating you know fire breath they are shaking their using mantras from Victoria to Cali and repeat that mantra for 5 minutes or sometimes half an hour it goes on and on and on like a psycho and I use also martial art techniques you know like punching and kicking like if you do some kickboxing is going to give enough news for these Aesthetics and some of the things that the mentioning right now they think us as being a Spiritual Development technique but you know what it is it is because you’re using something maybe the context is not sacred you know that it’s not good with when you’re at the gym and practicing that you go like well I’m just releasing I just training my body but you can really give it to certain lights vibration and the strain energy where you realize that what you’re doing is secret because it’s circulating energies and giving a channel for your Shadow Expressions so something is that I do I go about training outdoor you know I’m chugging outdoor and doing an energetic emotional release outdoor today it’s you know what’s 5 degrees Celsius outside I’m in Switzerland I just went to the lake and John brzenk Lake why do I do that because the the impact of the cold water has on your body create some form of energetic reset it’s almost like I see if your electromagnetic field just gets hit by electric shock that brings you back to a position of neutrality and it’s you know all this I think they have invoking the power of renewal in the center of them it’s what about releasing what you no longer need so if you have any motion that is trapped in your system how are you going to release it by giving that emotion channels and allowing this energy to circulate rather than being stacked in one of your check was over in some part of your body fits what about moving with Grace you know it’s it has a lot to do with was so emotional intelligence and intelligence so use that the 3D iPhone is really helpful is I sure nobody will take notes on the Dynamics of what’s Happening inside of me so I will try to explain rationalize you know have models that explain a little bit emotions that are going through so I can have some Metal Frames that give me an architecture of the Dynamics that are happening yeah yeah there is you know there is more sometimes he’s going to be in a creative floor Francis if I just discovered something and I’m super charge the battery. I might record a video and share that with with my Origins by martin-gay she will. Into into kitchen together yeah you know you can also take a pillow and Sheet pillows and ice cream like in or you go to a beach to someplace where nobody can see you and you just you just voice it you express it your voice if you scream to release the whatever anger attached is inside of you and all those techniques worksheet it’ll work or are you at with me and they are all very Dynamic techniques you know if you have been exposed to the teachings of Osho you know it’s a lot about this kind of energetic or emotional releases rather than sitting down and meditating yeah this is something something important to understand is that if you sit down and meditate to relieve intense emotions you should eat this for me it doesn’t really work because you’re trying to put a lid on it you like no one fine I’m cool know you’re not cool down and say no it’s cool I’m not feeling anything I’m not this raging you know when you’re trying to suppress it but usually that’s not with Factory because it’s like it’s as if you have a reserve of Pi are there and you’re trying to turn down to fire no call go ahead and use the fire going to learn how to play with it how to master it it’s a source of energy those are not all straight lines they’re in their winding paths and we have to follow the path if we are going to understand the person that were talking to if I’m going to understand the person I’m talking to you no hear my office is in Beverly Hills but I see people from all over there some people who were from next door there are other people who drive an hour in 2 hours to get to me so there’s no there’s no quick and simple answer about the people that I’m seeing and being a select group it’s really a Melting Pot of people and I can’t make the assumptions about who people are or unless I talk to them and that’s where I start is help me to understand you my my focus says I’m working with people is not trying to teach them though I know there are psychologist and psychotherapist who to focus on teaching people my focus is more on helping people to understand them and helping people to sort out what’s going on in their mind and how that connects to their life experience their understandings of themselves in the world of their relationships with other people and who they can be when they can’t be what to expect in the world so that’s where where I start with people is helping them to to let me know who they are and and that certainly applies with all issues about sex and sexuality and images of sex and sexuality okay well yeah thank you for that I’m feeling your your approaches it feels like if we all had that level of care and concern in and space to really create our own narratives that would be a way to solve a lot of our own problems with the bit of help so I appreciate that approach and that was kind of the sort of statistical archetypal stereotype of what’s of what how how you know several of the factors of how young men and boys are being harmed by something that they’re not that they actually end up being very uncomfortable with and want to seek help for inner creating their own sources for that there’s the nofap movement I’m not sure if you’ve heard of that but through set of what it’s coming down to is the extreme you know negative outcome of excessive use according to their own you know their own gauge of it and then if we look at I’ll just give you another kind of case study type example but the other equation for consumio young consumers of pornography young consumers erotic media getting there to leave the pornography tournament the door thank you email to talk about sexual images andronic images but that doesn’t mean that they are pouring and then it’s a question of what are the images the people are looking at you know there are there’s a lot of stereotype of those images are being filled with violence and leading to violence but that’s only a very small segment of what’s out there in the world of sexual imagery whether it’s videos or Stills and and the same thing with with rose there’s a whole world of sexual images that are all about love and are about sex being shown in very loving tender and unsatisfying ways but often that doesn’t get into the dialogue around porn was looking at the let’s say the Straight female certified sexual initiation process which happens to everyone and so a complaint that’s heard often is that you know I’m a teenage girl and all the boys are essentially behaving like they’re possessed and all they want to do is you know penetrate my anus in a way that has no real train skill or care concern or lubrication or all of the things that would be considered best practice is to explore that area and then they’re like this is a porndemic because I can’t find a young male to you know deflower me who I don’t feel really terrified by what’s going on in erotic imagination so is that something that you have had to answer questions about or deal with or confront cuz that’s the other sort of end of the spectrum of harm that’s certainly there and that then raises the question where do people get their sex education from where they get their sex education from about what’s normal and what if what they see on the internet is the only place that they are are learning about sex and that’s a very skewed you about what sex is what sex should be and there’s something about that that needs to be changed not from birth on the internet but to bring other people to to those kids education and part of part of that has to do with most of the sexual imagery that’s online is there for males and there’s not that of sexual imagery without fear for females so it certainly there but people do have to be looking for it more and for many of the boys growing up who who see sex on the internet that’s what they often might see but that doesn’t mean that that’s what’s normal and they’re also places on the internet where they can get more loving for Trails how that can be done and whatever sex acts someone might be looking for or inquiring but another part of this which I don’t want to just let Slide by under dress has to do with your talkin about the girls responses to to the boys I efforts to have sex and what they’re wanting and that has to do with what boys and girls and what adolescents grow up with about their own sexuality and what’s normal and what’s not normal and what’s okay and what’s not okay we’re still in a time when adolescents have the mindset that that boys should be the ones to initiate girl should not initiate and that puts all of the burden on on the boys and it sets up a dynamic between the boys and the girls wear and what kind of like you said the girls are saying well all he wants is to have sex and he wants to have it this way well let’s start with you all he wants is to have sex part and so why isn’t there more of an equality between boys and girls where they’re both wanting to have sex and they’re both seeing sex as something positive from an early age because the alternative is that is too kind of demon eyes the boys for wanting to have sex and the girls aren’t really wanting sex they’re just wanting to be loved and that is a whole dynamic between boys and girls between men and women that I think is really important part of all of these relationships that we need to take another look at it I mean it was addressed many years ago in certainly in the psychological literature one of the people that was looking at that was Wilhelm right back in the 30s about the sex negative view that was in society and there’s your dad still there we haven’t really gone all that far from that especially compared to how we think we’ve come miles and miles but it’s really only a few feet right like you’re saying there’s so many unspoken hidden Frameworks that are not being addressed like you know how to speak from experience when I was when I was a boy coming-of-age into my hormonal sexual self I was afraid to go up and write something on the chalkboard or point something out in the map because I had a tent pole in my pants cuz I was very turned on by the teacher or somebody else in the class and there was no masturbation room to go take care of myself at home or at school so we’re just not designing for this energy to flow through our cultures and you were living with the fear of being exposed as being a sexual / and being ridiculed for it in ways that girls never work but that’s the typical experience of growing up mail right and having as a dynamic between males and females in that very tender. Of age right so we’ve got a few minutes left I really appreciate your insights and I think I’m at a point where I feel like the way to frame this discourse is that it’s pouring is not a Public Health crisis or public health hazard sexual holistic sexuality education is in the lack thereof is the Public Health crisis and exactly more of the Public Health crisis is about sexual repression sexual oppression about teaching teaching people generally but especially teaching girls that sex is dirty and teaching girls that boys are bad for wanting to have sex that if everyone kind of grew up on an even playing field of seeing sex as positive seeing love is positive and being able to talk together about about those things to talk together about love to talk together about sex to talk together about what you want and what you don’t want and that’s okay we will be in a very different environment than we are today there is to be a new political office of a quote horns are not to be confused with torrent star that person was to be open-minded enough to take some direction and possibly offer to hire you to consult what kinds of programs designs no just outlines you know big picture thinking you know if you were to be able to be respected for what you’re saying and it is a we want to address the issue of institutionalized sexual repression in so where do we begin to unravel that not this is just that you know food for thought and I think one of the places is to redefine the title and take pouring out of the picture but it’s not about pouring it’s about sexuality and sexual acceptance and how can we how can we bring sexual acceptance into the public dialogue and into into the educational system and into into the kind of dialogue that parents have with your kids that that seems to me to be a big part of that role of Tsar do I don’t know that that’s the right term but to to change the language that we talked about these things so we’re not talking about about about it with sex negative sex by a sex pejorative kind of language that skews things from the gecko and set and sets us up to lose from the very start right to the simple statement sexual aggression is the product of sexual repression so it’s going to come out in pouring it’s going to come out on prom night all of that pent-up frustrated aggressive certified you want to call it Satanic call it Satanic whatever you want to call but you can have to bring the light to the darkness and and get some help with that so I think the case is closed and I really appreciate what we’ve accomplished in this call setting some new terms for discourse and really putting the the family and the family therapist in the community and the school teachers more in a position of of leadership than political Lake litigation legislation and political offices so what I would add to that is in terms of where you started is to encourage parents know themselves to be honest with themselves to be honest with their own prejudices and biases to be honest with their own fears to be honest with their own misconceptions so they don’t pass them along to kids and to be able to listen to kids more than they talk to kids and to be able to have a dialogue rather than a lecture with their kids and that changes the relationship between parents and kids and helps kids to grow and to feel accepted beautiful beautiful all right thank you dr. schub so much and if you want to give your contact information so people can start to seek your help sure you can find me at actor Karl subs.com that d r c a r l s h u b s or one string calm and phone number is 310-772-0520 that’s local here in Beverly Hills great thank you so much have a wonderful day take care you to thanks very much. 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